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stories from the gb news top stories from the gb news the— top stories from the gb news room. the grandmother of a boy killed— room. the grandmother of a boy killed by— room. the grandmother of a boy killed by police— room. the grandmother of a boy killed by police in— room. the grandmother of a boy killed by police in paris during atrafflc— killed by police in paris during atrafflc stop— killed by police in paris during a traffic stop is— killed by police in paris during a traffic stop is urging protesters— a traffic stop is urging protesters to - a traffic stop is urging protesters to end the riots . the protesters to end the riots. the french— protesters to end the riots. the french government's holding crisis— french government's holding crisistatks— french government's holding crisis talks this— french government's holding crisis talks this evening to address— crisis talks this evening to address the— crisis talks this evening to address the civil unrest after a fifth— address the civil unrest after a m... night— address the civil unrest after a fifth night of— address the civil unrest after a fifth night of violence . a nahel fifth night of violence. a nahel marzouk-s— fifth night of violence. a nahel marzouk's grandmother says notew— marzouk's grandmother says rioters are— marzouk's grandmother says rioters are using— marzouk's grandmother says rioters are using his death as an excuse to cause havoc. the family— an excuse to cause havoc. the family has— an excuse to cause havoc. the family has called— an excuse to cause havoc. the family has called for calm. the city-s— family has called for calm. the city-s regional— family has called for calm. the city's regional president says she-s— city's regional president says she's confident— city's regional president says she's confident that order will be restored— she's confident that order will be restored . _ she's confident that order will be restored . but— she's confident that order will be restored . be restored. but what's happening is ultra violent by small groups of people that are very well organised, sized and very well organised, sized and very well organised, sized and very well trained, and they want to defy the republic and the repubuc to defy the republic and the republic will not yield and we will fight back . the regional will fight back. the regional president— will fight back. the regional president also— will fight back. the regional president also met- will fight back. the regional president also met a- a �*" g f the regional president also met a mayor whose home— president also met a mayor whose home we— president also met a mayor whose home was raided— president also met a mayor whose home was raided and set alight in a— home was raided and set alight in a parisian— home was raided and set alight in a parisian suburb. his wife and— in a parisian suburb. his wife and one— in a parisian suburb. his wife and ef— in a parisian suburb. his wife and one of his— in a parisian suburb. his wife and one of his children were hurt. — and one of his children were hurt. prosecco_ and one of his children were hurt. prosecco tutors say an
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attempted— hurt. prosecco tutors say an attempted murder investigation has attempted murder investigation noe ow— attempted murder investigation noe been— attempted murder investigation has now been opened. french jownoweo— has now been opened. french journalist anthony andre says it's journalist anthony andre says n-e own— journalist anthony andre says we own wen— journalist anthony andre says it's put yet more— journalist anthony andre says it's put yet more pressure on president— it's put yet more pressure on president emmanuel macron . president emmanuel macron. his family— president emmanuel macron. his family wee— president emmanuel macron. his family were were— president emmanuel macron. his family were were attacked- president emmanuel macron. his family were were attacked in in his house during the night and his house during the night and his wife and his two children are too left the house in emergency because there was fire in the house and this is what is very shocking thing this morning . and every every myers in france wants that the state and emmanuel macron take take more more , more measures to stop the more, more measures to stop the chaos. two more, more measures to stop the chaos . two people have been chaos. two people have been weed— chaos. two people have been owned in— chaos. two people have been owned in o— chaos. two people have been killed in a mass— f two people have been killed in a mass shooting in the us killed in a mass shooting in the us soone— killed in a mass shooting in the us one on— killed in a mass shooting in the us state of maryland and police say up— us state of maryland and police say we no— us state of maryland and police say we o oo— us state of maryland and police say up to 30 people suffered genenon— say up to 30 people suffered gunshot wounds— say up to 30 people suffered gunshot wounds. say up to 30 people suffered gunshot wounds . three are in gunshot wounds. three are in a onene— gunshot wounds. three are in a critical condition— gunshot wounds. three are in a critical condition in the attack noppeneo— critical condition in the attack noppeneo in— critical condition in the attack happened in the— critical condition in the attack happened in the city of baltimore— happened in the city of baltimore where people had gonneneo— baltimore where people had eonneneo non— baltimore where people had gathered for an— baltimore where people had gathered for an event called nnoowwn— gathered for an event called nnoowwn now— gathered for an event called brooklyn day. the suspect or eweneee— brooklyn day. the suspect or eweoeee ,— brooklyn day. the suspect or ewepeee , one— brooklyn day. the suspect or suspects , are reportedly still suspects, are reportedly still at suspects, are reportedly still
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on enge— suspects, are reportedly still on large .— suspects, are reportedly still on large . one— suspects, are reportedly still at large . the us— suspects, are reportedly still at large . the us president will at large. the us president will meet— at large. the us president will meet wing— at large. the us president will meet king charles and the prime winner— meet king charles and the prime minister wnen— meet king charles and the prime minister when he— meet king charles and the prime minister when he visits the uk new— minister when he visits the uk next week. — minister when he visits the uk next week. buckingham palace has confirmed— next week. buckingham palace has confirmed joe— next week. buckingham palace has confirmed joe biden will visit winoeon— confirmed joe biden will visit windsor castle— confirmed joe biden will visit windsor castle on the 10th of jew.— windsor castle on the 10th of july- one— windsor castle on the 10th of july- nne wnne— windsor castle on the 10th of july. the white house says he's waveleng— july. the white house says he's travelling to — july. the white house says he's travelling to london to strengthen _ travelling to london to strengthen the close relationship between the notions.— relationship between the nations. he'll— relationship between the nations. he'll then head to nonwonn— nations. he'll then head to lithuania for— nations. he'll then head to lithuania for the nato summit before— lithuania for the nato summit before going— lithuania for the nato summit before going io— lithuania for the nato summit before going to finland . add new before going to finland. add new measures to deal— before going to finland. add new measures to deal with disruptive demonstrations— measures to deal with disruptive demonstrations have come into force— demonstrations have come into ione inew— demonstrations have come into force. they include expanded noiioe— force. they include expanded goine gow— force. they include expanded police powers to— force. they include expanded police powers to move on static or police powers to move on static on eiow— police powers to move on static or slow walking _ police powers to move on static or slow walking protests like none— or slow walking protests like none ween— or slow walking protests like those used by— or slow walking protests like those used by just stop oil a onininoi— those used by just stop oil a criminal offence— those used by just stop oil a criminal offence to tackle oienwniion — criminal offence to tackle disruption in— criminal offence to tackle disruption in tunnels has also been— disruption in tunnels has also been introduced,— disruption in tunnels has also been introduced, carrying jail ienne— been introduced, carrying jail ienne oi— been introduced, carrying jail ienne oi wn— been introduced, carrying jail terms of up to— been introduced, carrying jail terms of up to three years. onions— terms of up to three years. cniine sav— terms of up to three years. critics say the _ terms of up to three years. critics say the laws threaten ine— critics say the laws threaten ine nigni— critics say the laws threaten ine nigni io — critics say the laws threaten the right to protest and rail goeeengen— the right to protest and rail passengers are— the right to protest and rail passengers are facing yet more iienwniion— passengers are facing yet more oienwpiion oe— passengers are facing yet more disruption over the next week . disruption over the next week. asiin— disruption over the next week. aslef members— disruption over the next week. aslef members at 16 train oonnonigee— aslef members at 16 train companies in— aslef members at 16 train companies in england will refuse to companies in england will refuse io wonk— companies in england will refuse to work overtime,— companies in england will refuse to work overtime, which
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ogenoion— to work overtime, which operators rely- to work overtime, which operators rely on to run their new— operators rely on to run their full timetable.— operators rely on to run their full timetable. the union says it's full timetable. the union says no ooiiing— full timetable. the union says it's calling for— full timetable. the union says it's calling for fair pay, but ine— it's calling for fair pay, but one noi— it's calling for fair pay, but the rail delivery group says asiin— the rail delivery group says asiin neg-eni— the rail delivery group says aslef reject its— the rail delivery group says aslef reject its last offer of a eoooo— aslef reject its last offer of a eoooo noise— aslef reject its last offer of a £5,000 raise, which would have inowgni— £5,000 raise, which would have inowgni ine— £5,000 raise, which would have brought the basic— £5,000 raise, which would have brought the basic salary for inven— brought the basic salary for drivers working— brought the basic salary for drivers working a four day week to drivers working a four day week io neoniw— drivers working a four day week to nearly £65,000.— drivers working a four day week to nearly £65,000. services will be to nearly £65,000. services will in oiieoiei— to nearly £65,000. services will be affected from _ to nearly £65,000. services will be affected from monday through to be affected from monday through io someon— be affected from monday through io soiwniow. iv— be affected from monday through to saturday. tv online dab+ noiio— to saturday. tv online dab+ noiio oni— to saturday. tv online dab+ radio and on— to saturday. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in this is gb wewe. — radio and on tune in this is gb wewe. wow— radio and on tune in this is gb news. now ii-e— radio and on tune in this is gb news. now it's over to free eneeon— news. now it's over to free speech nation— news. now it's over to free speech nation ._ speech nation. | good - speech nation.i l good evening, speech nation. good evening, france goes up in flames. mp jess phillips flames. labour mp jess phillips is accused of outright racism by the redoubtable katharine birbalsingh and the war on the right and wrongthink has reached the banking sector. this is free speech the banking sector. this is free speeon woiion—
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the banking sector. this is free speeon woiion .— the banking sector. this is free speech nation . so— speech nation. so welcome to nee— speech nation. so welcome to nnee sneeon— speech nation. so welcome to free speech nation with me, sinon— free speech nation with me, sinon inane— free speech nation with me, simon evans standing or rather eiiiing— simon evans standing or rather eiiiing ion— simon evans standing or rather eiiiing ion in— simon evans standing or rather sitting for in andrew doyle this week. — sitting for in andrew doyle this week. ani— sitting for in andrew doyle this week. and in— sitting for in andrew doyle this week. and if i— sitting for in andrew doyle this week. and if i know andrew, he's ownneniiw— week. and if i know andrew, he's ownneniiw on— week. and if i know andrew, he's ownneniiw on o— week. and if i know andrew, he's currently on a sunbed somewhere downing— currently on a sunbed somewhere iowning nie— currently on a sunbed somewhere downing his 12th— currently on a sunbed somewhere downing his 12th pint of the evening. — downing his 12th pint of the evening. actually, that is not wee.— evening. actually, that is not owe. ne-ii— evening. actually, that is not true. he'll be— evening. actually, that is not true. he'll be feeding the ionnewe— true. he'll be feeding the oonnewe on— true. he'll be feeding the donkeys on sark. is the donkeys on sark. this is the snow— donkeys on sark. this is the snow wnen— donkeys on sark. this is the show where we— donkeys on sark. this is the show where we take a look at cwiiwne— show where we take a look at culture current— show where we take a look at culture current affairs and noiiine— culture current affairs and goiiine-oi— culture current affairs and politics of course, we'll politics and of course, we'll newe— politics and of course, we'll nowe ine— politics and of course, we'll have the latest— politics and of course, we'll have the latest from those iowoiie— have the latest from those lovable culture— have the latest from those lovable culture warriors who oggeon— lovable culture warriors who oggeon io— lovable culture warriors who oggeon io newe— lovable culture warriors who appear to have turned on each one— appear to have turned on each one inn— appear to have turned on each other this week— appear to have turned on each other this week as— appear to have turned on each other this week as oil other this week as just oil ooiiwieie— other this week as just oil activists have— other this week as just oil activists have interrupting activists have been interrupting activists have been interrupting o pride— activists have been interrupting o pride non-n— activists have been interrupting a pride march. don't you just one— a pride march. don't you just iowe io— a pride march. don't you just iowe io ee— a pride march. don't you just love to see it?— a pride march. don't you just love to see it.7 coming up on the snow— love to see it.7 coming up on the snow ionigni,— love to see it.7 coming up on the show tonight, right.— love to see it.7 coming up on the show tonight, right. of show tonight, right. members of the show tonight, right. members of one-ii— show tonight, right. members of one-a wnon— show tonight, right. members of one-a wnon iw— show tonight, right. members of the a whom by fire are here the band a whom by fire are here to the band a whom by fire are here io ieii— the band a whom by fire are here io ieii we— the band a whom by fire are here io ieii we now— the band a whom by fire are here to tell us how they— the band a whom by fire are here to tell us how they were cancelled _ to tell us how they were cancelled from performing at a now— cancelled from performing at a folk festival— cancelled from performing at a folk festival because the ononigeen— folk festival because the organisers didn't agree with a eingie— organisers didn't agree with a eingie eooioi— organisers didn't agree with a single social media post. we'll get single social media post. we'll gei ine— single social media post. we'll gei ine ioieei— single social media post. we'll get the latest from washington as get the latest from washington no one — get the latest from washington no one none— get the latest from washington as the race for— get the latest from washington as the race for the white house non— as the race for the white house non wn— as the race for the white house non we .— as the race for the white house non we . ani— as the race for the white house hots up . and the— as the race for the white house hots up . and the supreme court hots up. and the supreme court noe— hots up. and the supreme court nee none— hots up. and the supreme court nee noie o— hots up. and the supreme court has made a stand— hots up. and the supreme court has made a stand against affirmative _ has made a stand against affirmative action in universities. and of course ,
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universities. and of course, nweeii— universities. and of course, nweeii oni— universities. and of course, nweeii one no— universities. and of course, myself and my fantastic panel wiii— myself and my fantastic panel wiii ne— myself and my fantastic panel will be answering questions from our will be answering questions from wonieniwi— will be answering questions from our wonderful studio audience . our wonderful studio audience. all our wonderful studio audience. aii inni— our wonderful studio audience. new one one— our wonderful studio audience. all that and much more tonight on nee— all that and much more tonight on free speech— all that and much more tonight on free speech nation. my studio gweeie— on free speech nation. my studio gweeie inn— on free speech nation. my studio guests this evening— on free speech nation. my studio guests this evening are oonneiione— guests this evening are comedians cressida wetton . and comedians cressida wetton. and siennen— comedians cressida wetton. and siegnen aiion— comedians cressida wetton. and stephen allan. please give them a stephen allan. please give them o nowno— stephen allan. please give them o nowni oi— stephen allan. please give them a round of applause . so, a round of applause. so, onene— a round of applause. so, cressida, you— a round of applause. so, cressida, you probably have more exnoneiene— cressida, you probably have more experience with— cressida, you probably have more experience with this format than i experience with this format than i no. — experience with this format than i no. one— experience with this format than i no. one you— experience with this format than i do. are you are— experience with this format than i do. are you are you possibly eno— i do. are you are you possibly also some of— i do. are you are you possibly also some of the— i do. are you are you possibly also some of the audience nnenneni— also some of the audience members might as well, because you members might as well, because wow iii— members might as well, because you die gei— members might as well, because you die gei oe— members might as well, because you did get some repeat offenders,— you did get some repeat. offenders,_you offenders, don't we.7 do you mine— offenders, don't we.7 do you ininn-gei— offenders, don't we? do you ininn-geilwow- offenders, don't we? do you think get you get like offenders, don't we? do you- think-get.you get like a think they get do you get like a inne— think they get do you get like a one ion— think they get do you get like a nine ion iwo — think they get do you get like a three for two -or_ think they get do you get like a three for two or something? three for two deal or something? you three for two deal or something? wow wow— three for two deal or something? wow wow oe— three for two deal or something? you you come along. have you seen—neonie- you you come along. have you. seen—people before? seen any of these people before? siennen— seen any of these people before? siennenli-n— seen any of these people before? stephenll'm not— seen any of these people before? stephen i'm not allowed to stephen v i'm not allowed to nonnoiiw— stephen v i'm not allowed to normally-yards- stephen v i'm not allowed to normally -yards of. normally within 50 yards of inen. — normally within 50 yards of them. iactually- normally within 50 yards of them. f okay, well, them. so actually. okay, well, iei-e— them. so actually. okay, well, iei-e inn— them. so actually. okay, well, let's kick off— them. so actually. okay, well, let's kick off with— them. so actually. okay, well, let's kick off with our- them. f okay, well, let's kick off with our first gweeiion— let's kick off with our first question from _ let's kick off with our first question from the audience. our ini— question from the audience. our iini gweeiion— question from the audience. our first question comes from armin question from the audience. our fir: tion comes from armin question from the audience. our fir: ci?" comes from armin question from the audience. our fir: ci?" |es from armin question from the audience. our fir: ci?" j?"
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ion-i— business with you because they ion-i iine — business with you because they don't like your— business with you because they don't like your politics? this, of don't like your politics? this, oi io— don't like your politics? this, of course, is particularly genineni— of course, is particularly pertinent to— of course, is particularly pertinent to gb news as it's our new— pertinent to gb news as it's our very on— pertinent to gb news as it's our very wigei— pertinent to gb news as it's our very own nigel farage, who was the very own nigel farage, who was we ioieei— very own nigel farage, who was the latest this— very own nigel farage, who was the latest this-to- very own nigel farage, who was the latest this to claim the latest this week to claim his-accounts- the latest this week to claim his-accounts are- the latest this week to claim his accounts are being his bank accounts are being oioeei— his bank accounts are being closed explanation. but closed without explanation. but he closed without explanation. but nelnneewning— closed without explanation. but helpresuming it's— closed without explanation. but he presuming it's his he is presuming it's his goiiine— he is presuming it's his politics—hisl he is presuming it's his- politics_his dress politics rather than his dress sense-noe— politics rather than his dress sense has caused politics rather than his dress- sense-has caused-some sense that has caused them some oiegwiei. — sense that has caused them some oiegwiei. ine— sense that has caused them some disquiet. the gb— sense that has caused them some disquiet. the gb news presenter eeie— disquiet. the gb news presenter eoio nei— disquiet. the gb news presenter said no ieen— disquiet. the gb news presenter said he'd been he'd been with the said he'd been he'd been with one—ionning- said he'd been he'd been with. the—banking-he the prestigious banking group he is the prestigious banking group he ie—inen,— the prestigious banking group he ie—inen, ini- the prestigious banking group he ie—inen, be i- the prestigious banking group he is them, but i believe is not named them, but i believe one— is not named them, but i believe inew-in— is not named them, but i believe inew-in o— is not named them, but i believe they-in a number- is not named them, but i believe they-in a number of- they come in a number of wonieiiee— they come in a number of varieties, one— they come in a number of varieties, one of- they come in a number of varieties, one of which is ionoweiw— varieties, one of which is famously-for- varieties, one of which is famously for more than varieties, one of which is- famously -for more than 40 famously bald for more than 40 ween— famously bald for more than 40 ween inew— famously bald for more than 40 years they received he received a years they received he received o ieiien— years they received he received o ieiien inon — years they received he received a letter from the— years they received he received a letter from the bank telling nin— a letter from the bank telling nin nie— a letter from the bank telling him his personal— a letter from the bank telling him his personal and business accounts were being closed. so inni— accounts were being closed. so one is— accounts were being closed. so that is rather— accounts were being closed. so that is rather a— accounts were being closed. so that is rather a worrying development.- that is rather a worrying development. i mean, i've had a nonn— development. i mean, i've had a bank oooowni— development. i mean, i've had a bank account closed about 30 ween— bank account closed about 30 ween ego.— bank account closed about 30 ween ago. i— bank account closed about 30 ween ago. i woe— bank account closed about 30 years ago. i was with natwest. i got years ago. i was with natwest. i goo-inn— years ago. i was with natwest. i goi-inon one— years ago. i was with natwest. i got-from one day.- years ago. i was with natwest. i got-from one day. i- years ago. i was with natwest. i got from one day. i was got a letter from one day. i was oiowi— got a letter from one day. i was oiowi eei— got a letter from one day. i was about £47 overdrawn and they insi— about £47 overdrawn and they were just tired— about £47 overdrawn and they were just tired of— about £47 overdrawn and they were just tired of all, were just tired of it all, i ininn— were just tired of it all, i ininn io— were just tired of it all, i think, to be— were just tired of it all, i think, to be honest. but but inni— think, to be honest. but but one we— think, to be honest. but but that was back when £47 could buy you a house. right, yes. you a house. that's right, yes. back then i was saving up my weenie.— back then i was saving up my overdraft. absolutely this back then i was saving up my ova'draft. absolutely this back then i was saving up my ova worrying;olutely this back then i was saving up my ova worrying trend.y this back then i was saving up my ova worrying trend. we this back then i was saving up my ova worrying trend. we know our is a worrying trend. we know our inienee— is a worrying trend. we know our friends trigonometry have had friends at trigonometry have had inein—oioeee- their bank accounts closed neoeniiw. — their bank accounts closed recently. believe of a recently. and i believe of a nwnneni— recently. and i believe of a nwnien-en- recently. and i believe of a number gb news number of other gb news oneeenien— number of other gb news presenters well. what do presenters as well. what do you
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ininne— presenters as well. what do you ininne-i— presenters as well. what do you think?-i don't— presenters as well. what do you think?-i don't-it's. think? yeah, i don't think it's a think? yeah, i don't think it's e win— think? yeah, i don't think it's e win one— think? yeah, i don't think it's a win that anyone's looking for. i a win that anyone's looking for. i ininn— a win that anyone's looking for. i own een— a win that anyone's looking for. i think even lyou_ a win that anyone's looking for. i think even lyou thoroughly. i think even if you thoroughly hate that nigel hate everything that nigel farage has ever said or done, you walk with you don't walk away with a victory going, well, now he's with different argue the with a different bank. argue the points, point across points, get the point across that to brexit or that you want to about brexit or whatever i do think this whatever it is. i do think this story splits there's story splits into two. there's all the stories of people who've said their bank, said things to their bank, written their bank written a letter to their bank and their account closed. and had their account closed. yeah, we actually don't know whether farage's whether it is nigel farage's views have been views because he may have been identified as a politically exposed which exposed person, which is less rude than sounds, and, and if rude than it sounds, and, and if that the case, then there are that is the case, then there are other to ask the bank. other questions to ask the bank. why getting rid of why are you getting rid of people? cause you people? because they cause you more separate more admin. but that's separate to that is separate to this culture that is separate and that is an eu thing of course, which he would in turn regard demonstrative. yes, regard as a demonstrative. yes, absolutely . but i have d yes, absolutely . but i have heard absolutely. but i have heard eno— absolutely. but i have heard eieo eiowi— absolutely. but i have heard also about some— absolutely. but i have heard also about some people who have had also about some people who have nee-ienn— also about some people who have had-bank accounts- also about some people who have had bank accounts closed had their bank accounts closed ieoewee— had their bank accounts closed ieoewee inew— had their bank accounts closed because they asked perhaps noieiiw— because they asked perhaps noisily,-rudely- because they asked perhaps noisily, rudely in the noisily, perhaps rudely in the inenon— noisily, perhaps rudely in the inenon ,— noisily, perhaps rudely in the inenon line— noisily, perhaps rudely in the branch ,-the-wasi branch, why the place was ieeioonee — branch, why the place was festooned with _ branch, why the place was festooned with pride , flags and festooned with pride, flags and one— festooned with pride, flags and inei—weii- festooned with pride, flags and that—well it's- that sort of thing. well it's eiiii— that sort of thing. well it's eiiii-e— that sort of thing. well it's still-a reason- that sort of thing. well it's still-a reason to- that sort of thing. well it's still a reason to make still not a reason to make eoneioew— still not a reason to make somebody stand in the cash
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gewneni— somebody stand in the cash gewneni eieie— somebody stand in the cash payment aisle in is it? payment aisle in lidl, is it? i mean, that's. is— payment aisle in lidl, is it? i mean, that's. is there- payment aisle in lidl, is it? is there a cash mean, that's. is there a cash gewnenie — mean, that's. is there a cash gewnenie on.— mean, that's. is there a cash payment? oh, yes,- mean, that's. is there a cash payment? oh, yes, i- mean, that's. is there a cash payment? oh, yes, i have some cash. no,i payment? oh, yes, i have some cash. no, i shouldn't- payment? o" «no; f no, i shouldn't be. venice cash. no, i shouldn't be. well, it happens to comedians. they get paid in cash and then you have to go and stand. a lot longer in the queue. this is a real issue anyway. yeah, it's terrible. and i don't think. i don't think disagreeing with the flags is an flags in a branch is an appropriate reason. is it? as steve said, a win that steve said, it's not a win that anybody and we have also anybody wants and we have also noficed anybody wants and we have also noticed speaking, noticed generally speaking, you know, there are a lot of people now are denied access now who are being denied access to just to banking services just geographically as well. this is a massive thing in— geographically as well. this is a massive thing in-areasl a massive thing in rural areas wnen— a massive thing in rural areas wnene-oioee- a massive thing in rural areas where-close and- a massive thing in rural areas where close and old where branches close and old geonie—inein- people can't pay for their cleaners-on. - people can't pay for their cleaners on. anyway, people can't pay for their- cleaners-on. anyway, our cleaners and so on. anyway, our new— cleaners and so on. anyway, our next-comes from - cleaners and so on. anyway, our next comes from alan. next question comes from alan. wnen— next question comes from alan. wnene-inene- next question comes from alan. where-there he- next question comes from alan. where there he how where is alan? there he is. how oowie— where is alan? there he is. how oowielniee— where is alan? there he is. how oowielniee wow,— where is alan? there he is. how could miss you, alan? hi could i miss you, alan? hi onene— could i miss you, alan? hi there-jeremy- could i miss you, alan? hi there. jeremy clarkson has there. as jeremy clarkson has egoiogieee—oni apologised for his column on iiegnen— apologised for his column on meghan markle_ apologised for his column on meghan markle is it right that nee— meghan markle is it right that en no— meghan markle is it right that he's now being— meghan markle is it right that he's now being labelled a sense— he's now being labelled a sexist? well,— he's now being labelled a sexist? well, that is a good geeeiion— sexist? well, that is a good gweeiion. a— sexist? well, that is a good question. a column by jeremy cienneon— question. a column by jeremy cienneon ee— question. a column by jeremy clarkson, as i'm— question. a column by jeremy clarkson, as i'm sure many of wow— clarkson, as i'm sure many of you win— clarkson, as i'm sure many of you will remember, this was a oownie— you will remember, this was a oownie oi— you will remember, this was a couple of months— you will remember, this was a couple of months ago, i think it came out, wasn't— couple of months ago, i think it came out, wasn't it, in which he he came out, wasn't it, in which he ne ne— came out, wasn't it, in which he ne ne ne— came out, wasn't it, in which he ne ne ne eeie— came out, wasn't it, in which he
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he he he said he— came out, wasn't it, in which he he he he said he was dreaming of the he he he said he was dreaming of we oneness— he he he said he was dreaming of the duchess of— he he he said he was dreaming of the duchess of sussex being neneeee— the duchess of sussex being paraded naked— the duchess of sussex being paraded naked in the street. and a paraded naked in the street. and e-negwieion— paraded naked in the street. and a-regulator-finally- a press regulator has finally got— a press regulator has finally goo—eel got round to ruling this as being— got round to ruling this as being sexist— got round to ruling this as being sexist or— got round to ruling this as being sexist or he claims it was in being sexist or he claims it was n-eienene— being sexist or he claims it was n-eienene io- being sexist or he claims it was in - reference to the - being sexist or he claims it was in reference to the game in fact a reference to the game of in fact a reference to the game oi iinonee— in fact a reference to the game of thrones, which— in fact a reference to the game of thrones, which he had failed to of thrones, which he had failed io inoiwie— of thrones, which he had failed to include. that— of thrones, which he had failed to include. that reference in ine— to include. that reference in ine-wnnn— to include. that reference in the-which would- to include. that reference in the which would have the text, which would have sinned— the text, which would have situated.in_ the text, which would have situated in much more situated it in in a much more a neon— situated it in in a much more a much more palatable context , much more palatable context, oiwioweiw— much more palatable context, oiwioweiw. nei— much more palatable context, obviously. but he— much more palatable context, obviously. but he got a record 25.000— obviously. but he got a record zoooo geogie— obviously. but he got a record 25,000 people complaining to inso— 25,000 people complaining to inso ion— 25,000 people complaining to ipso for that— 25,000 people complaining to ipso for that ,_ 25,000 people complaining to ipso for that , which i suppose i ipso for that, which i suppose i eon-i— ipso for that, which i suppose i done know— ipso for that, which i suppose i don't know whether you get a cup or don't know whether you get a cup on e inonnw— don't know whether you get a cup on e noon on— don't know whether you get a cup or a trophy or something for nien— or a trophy or something for eien-ine— or a trophy or something for that,-the that's- or a trophy or something for that, the that's the that, but the that's the independent- that, but the that's the independent standards independent press standards organisation,— independent press standards organisation, 25,000 independently outraged by that. the independently outraged by that. ine inegew— independently outraged by that. ine inegew we— independently outraged by that. the imagery was humiliating and oegneeing— the imagery was humiliating and oegneeinglneeing— the imagery was humiliating and degrading adding towards degrading. adding towards the oneneee— degrading. adding towards the duchess-has— degrading. adding towards the duchess has claimed that he's duchess he has claimed that he's not duchess he has claimed that he's noi e— duchess he has claimed that he's noi e eeien— duchess he has claimed that he's not a sexist, but— duchess he has claimed that he's not a sexist, but he— duchess he has claimed that he's not a sexist, but he is oiwioweiw— not a sexist, but he is obviously quite happy with some of obviously quite happy with some oiinone— obviously quite happy with some of more antediluvian views , of his more antediluvian views, but of his more antediluvian views, iwi ne— of his more antediluvian views, iwi ne negenie— of his more antediluvian views, but he regards himself as eeiweiiw— but he regards himself as actually-clean- but he regards himself as actually clean on actually pretty clean on the eeien-ne— actually pretty clean on the. sexism - he - always actually pretty clean on the- sexism - he - always be sexism front. he would always be like stridently_ sexism front. he would always be like stridently opposed to men ieing— like stridently opposed to men being presumed— like stridently opposed to men being presumed to be better nninene— being presumed to be better eniwene ene— being presumed to be better drivers and so— being presumed to be better drivers and so on. when he was pneeeniing— drivers and so on. when he was pneeeniing ion— drivers and so on. when he was presenting top gear, what do you wnen— presenting top gear, what do you we eo— presenting top gear, what do you we to wow— presenting top gear, what do you what do you feel— presenting top gear, what do you what do you feel that rings inwee— what do you feel that rings inwee — what do you feel that rings inwee inn— what do you feel that rings true? i'm surprised- what do you feel that rings true? : true? i'm surprised i'm not surprised people don't like surprised that people don't like this and you can indeed say
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this. and you can indeed say there are humiliating parts of the column. of course, the purpose of imagery is to purpose of that imagery is to humiliate . purpose of that imagery is to humiliate. but purpose of that imagery is to humiliate . but i purpose of that imagery is to humiliate. but i don't necessarily see where the link is to the sexism because last time i checked, man and all time i checked, my man and all of and if someone of those things and if someone said dream me walking said they dream of me walking naked streets naked through the streets covered excrement, i don't covered in excrement, i don't think i'd be like, well, it's all right. i'm a bloke. i'd say, i don't like it. it's wrong in either direction . so i don't either direction. so i don't necessarily see the sexism link. like link wasn't like the racism link wasn't the investigation didn't find any racism. i just don't see why this sexism is definitely humiliation . this sexism is definitely humiliation. but this sexism is definitely humiliation . but why this sexism is definitely humiliation. but why is it specifically linked to her gender? it does seem it does. inene-e— gender? it does seem it does. inene-e e— gender? it does seem it does. there's a tendency— gilt??? it does seem it does. there's a tendency try 9:1; 2 2?’ it does seem it does. there's a tendency try and there's a tendency to try and eeien— there's a tendency to try and eeien ein— there's a tendency to try and deter sin which— there's a tendency to try and deter sin which dynamics are at play— deter sin which dynamics are at play eni— deter sin which dynamics are at play and unspoken. yeah, i mean, oi— play and unspoken. yeah, i mean, oi ine— play and unspoken. yeah, i mean, one of the things— play and unspoken. yeah, i mean, one of the things i— play and unspoken. yeah, i mean, one of the things i as i thought inen— one of the things i as i thought we ii— one of the things i as i thought we ii wee— one of the things i as i thought that it was sexist— one of the things i as i thought that it was sexist because he'd onw— that it was sexist because he'd only congeni— that it was sexist because he'd only compared to— that it was sexist because he'd only compared to her women only compared to her other women he only compared to her other women ne-ene— only compared to her other women ne-eni i— only compared to her other women he-and i thought,- only compared to her other women he and i thought, well he hates and i thought, well wow-we— he hates and i thought, well wow-we-inei. - he hates and i thought, well you've that. he hates and i thought, well- you've-that. that's your you've brought that. that's your own mean he's, own projection. i mean he's, he's to compare three he's allowed to compare three women he. that's women isn't he. that's that's all right. pretty shocking. all right. yeah pretty shocking. i reread this morning i'm i reread it this morning and i'm of opinion generally . oh, of the opinion generally. oh, come relax. and read
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come on guys, relax. and i read it and i did think. oh, yeah, it's he was sort of implying that he'd written late that he'd written it late at night. half night. maybe he'd had half a bottle of red and a few scotches, but it had to go through the editorial process, didn't somewhere didn't it? so somebody somewhere in yeah that in an office went. yeah that seems fine. think that is the wing,— seems fine. think that is the ining, ien-i— seems fine. think that is the thing, isn't it?— �*" think that is the thing, isn't it? where did where ine— thing, isn't it? where did where was the editor— thing, isn't it? where did where was the editor in— thing, isn't it? where did where was the editor in all of this? nei— was the editor in all of this? but-interesting- was the editor in all of this? but interesting how we but it is interesting how we neneiwe— but it is interesting how we perceive-these- but it is interesting how we perceive. these dog perceive. we hear these dog wnieiiee—i- perceive. we hear these dog. whistles—i mean, whistles all the time. i mean, ine— whistles all the time. i mean, ine-ienowe— whistles all the time. i mean, the famous example, of the most famous example, of course, at the— the most famous example, of course, at the moment in the ieen— course, at the moment in the ieei eon— course, at the moment in the ieei eonle— course, at the moment in the last sort-3 or— course, at the moment in the last sort-3 or 4— course, at the moment in the last sort 3 or 4 years was last sort of 3 or 4 years was ine— last sort of 3 or 4 years was we nninene— last sort of 3 or 4 years was the murder of— last sort of 3 or 4 years was the murder of george floyd, iowni— the murder of george floyd, iownilie— the murder of george floyd, iownelie e— the murder of george floyd, found be a murder. but the found to be a murder. but the racism element— found to be a murder. but the racism element obviously racism element was obviously enwe— drove all of the protests egeinei— drove all of the protests egeinei-wei- drove all of the protests against yet that against it. and yet that was oongieiew— against it. and yet that was completely unproven court. completely unproven in court. inene— completely unproven in court. inene wee— completely unproven in court. inene no— completely unproven in court. there was no suggestion, in ieen— there was no suggestion, in ieen eeni— there was no suggestion, in fact, wasn't mentioned. fact, wasn't even mentioned. but it's always the projection afterwards. _ it's always the projection - afterwards. -question afterwards. our next question is gm,— afterwards. our next question is inn-nine.— afterwards. our next question is from,-birdie. who- afterwards. our next question is from, birdie. who birdie from, um, birdie. who is birdie wnene— from, um, birdie. who is birdie where-birdie.- from, um, birdie. who is birdie where birdie. hello, where there is birdie. hello, tinie— where there is birdie. hello, eneie—wow- where there is birdie. hello, birdie._you got. where there is birdie. hello,i birdie._you got for birdie. what have you got for we— birdie. what have you got for we? — birdie. what have you got for we? wnen— birdie. what have you got for we? wneile— birdie. what have you got for us? what-a bonus- birdie. what have you got for- us? what-a bonus hole and why us? what is a bonus hole and why do i keep seeing it everywhere? where the bonus? are you where are the bonus? are you seeing— where are the bonus? are you seeing-innue— where are the bonus? are you seeing bonus hole or. we're seeing the bonus hole or. we're seeing the bonus hole or. we're seeing the bonus hole or. we're seeing the term bonus hole. are you looking important? taoiseach bonus toe bonus hole is the latest toe curling euphemism for vagina , i curling euphemism for vagina, i believe. i think for the for for
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the the female genitals is the whole package. and it's come from joe's . i say package from joe's. i say package packaging maybe. but anyway we see joe's cervical cancer trust who you would you would assume were familiar with the biology involved. they were in partnership with the lgbt foundation and this week they offered that alternative vocabulary for women's genitalia to increase inclusivity in medical language. so this is presumably by calling it a bonus hole is meant to alleviate the pressure felt by trans people when they are when they're discussing it. because i mean, honestly, apart from the fact that it honestly, apart from the fact thatitis honestly, apart from the fact that it is absolutely , as i say, that it is absolutely, as i say, toe curling, it's embarrassing . toe curling, it's embarrassing. it's like something out of a 70s game show or something . they're game show or something. they're burning the magazine was back. i thought , who thought the i thought, who thought the newnei— i thought, who thought the cervical cancer— i thought, who thought the cervical cancer trust would have nee— cervical cancer trust would have need zoo?— cervical cancer trust would have need zooe — cervical cancer trust would have need zooe nei— cervical cancer trust would have read zoo? but it— cervical cancer trust would have read zoo? but it turns- cervical cancer trust would have read zoo? c read zoo? but it turns out turns out they do. none of these iiinge— out they do. none of these ininge. wone— out they do. none of these things. none of— 2i:1i none of these things. none of these attempts ever achieved— things. none of these attempts ever achieved what their inieneee— ever achieved what their intended to,— ever achieved what their intended to, which is to try and iene— intended to, which is to try and en ine—
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intended to, which is to try and take the heat— intended to, which is to try and take the heat out— intended to, which is to try and take the heat out of the eiiweiion— take the heat out of the situation ._ take the heat out of the situation . they just infuriate situation. they just infuriate oeonie— situation. they just infuriate geopie. ane— situation. they just infuriate geopie. one i— situation. they just infuriate people. and i think those who are people. and i think those who , ii— people. and i think those who , ii ie— people. and i think those who are , it is hoped,— people. and i think those who are , it is hoped, might be, you are, it is hoped, might be, you know,— are, it is hoped, might be, you know, included— are, it is hoped, might be, you know, included in— are, it is hoped, might be, you know, included in the conversation - know, included in the conversation end up being blamed for conversation end up being blamed ion eo— conversation end up being blamed ion neon— conversation end up being blamed for some cack handed attempt by some well—intentioned charity . some well—intentioned charity. vow— some well—intentioned charity. now know,— some well—intentioned charity. now know i— some well—intentioned charity. you know, if anything , we just you know, if anything, we just inen— you know, if anything, we just then bracket— you know, if anything, we just then bracket the _ you know, if anything, we just then bracket the people who were then bracket the people who were we inieneee— then bracket the people who were the intended beneficiaries of nnie— the intended beneficiaries of inie winn— the intended beneficiaries of this with the _ the intended beneficiaries of this with the with the would be onweiiien— this with the with the would be orwellian dictionary rewriter. wee.— orwellian dictionary rewriter. vee- ane— orwellian dictionary rewriter. yes. and instead— orwellian dictionary rewriter. yes. and instead of- orwellian dictionary rewriter. yes. and instead of seeing it as a bit of a silly error, we see it as, oh, it was their plan all along. yes, i don't think it solves a problem. that's one way. one point i need to address. i don't think anyone who a will be like, who has a vagina will be like, oh no, i don't know what it is because what will happen in a conversation, you will have it called bonus hole. they'll called a bonus hole. they'll say, that? vagina? oh, say, what's that? a vagina? oh, and to page one. you and we're back to page one. you know and also, just know what it is. and also, just to address the point, why are you holes you seeing bonus holes everywhere? have you been staring one for a long while? staring at one for a long while? when close eyes, you when you close your eyes, do you still glad you still see one? i'm glad you checked. iwould still see one? i'm glad you checked. i would have thought the checked. i would have thought ine gopwien— checked. i would have thought the popular family— 222 i would have thought
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the popular family term front the popular family term of front noenei. — the popular family term of front noenei. -inei-e— the popular family term of front pocket. -that's the - the popular family term of front pocket. that's the one we pocket. that's that's the one we ini— pocket. that's that's the one we inn—oi— pocket. that's that's the one wei but—of snooker. but it ruins a game of snooker. nieoiwieiw. — but it ruins a game of snooker. absolutely. well— but it ruins a game of snooker. absolutely. well now- but it ruins a game of snooker. ' give well now our next absolutely. well now our next gweeiion— absolutely. well now our next gweeiion ie— absolutely. well now our next question is from _ ' give well now our next question is from winter. who was pneewneiiw— question is from winter. who was presumably come— question is from winter. who was presumably come a— question is from winter. who was presumably come a long just presumably come a long way just neeoiiing— presumably come a long way just neeoiiing inon — presumably come a long way just recoiling from the— presumably come a long way just recoiling from the last from the ieen— recoiling from the last from the ieei — recoiling from the last from the ieei i— recoiling from the last from the last one. i do— recoiling from the last from the last one. d last one. i do apologise, winter it's expect here in it's not what you expect here in my nightmare, is it? no , this is my nightmare, is it? no, this is a my nightmare, is it? no, this is e-inieneeiing— my nightmare, is it? no, this is a-interesting question- a very interesting question ieeee— a very interesting question ieeee wow— a very interesting question because you can read it in eiiieneni— because you can read it in different ways,— because you can read it in different ways, considering the eneie— different ways, considering the eieie oi— different ways, considering the eieie oi ine — different ways, considering the state of the world at the moment is state of the world at the moment ie e— state of the world at the moment ie e nenei— state of the world at the moment ie e nenei oi— state of the world at the moment is a panel of women? well placed to is a panel of women? well placed io iein— is a panel of women? well placed io iein eiowi— is a panel of women? well placed to talk about men's— is a panel of women? well placed to talk about men's issues. vee- — to talk about men's issues. vee- enew— to talk about men's issues. vee- one so— to talk about men's issues. yes. okay so this— to talk about men's issues. yes. okay so this will- to talk about men's issues. yes. okay so this will be lorraine kelly, who was interviewed doing remind me of her name , caitlin moran. caitlin her name, caitlin moran. caitlin moran . yes. or moran, possibly. moran. yes. or moran, possibly. caitlin moran or caitlin moran, depending on which part of ireland you originally come from. and i'd and they were discussing caitlin's new book, i think, weren't they? which is she wrote a book a few years ago, which how to be a woman ago, which was how to be a woman and actually having recently married and shortly married one and then shortly afterwards become a father to another potential found
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another potential one, i found that book quite useful. i thought it was quite insightful and it generated all and honest and it generated all sorts interesting sorts of interesting conversations. course conversations. but of course that sold as many copies as it's going to and she needs going to now. and she needs a new angle. and so decided new angle. and so they decided to men. now suicide to talk about men. now suicide is still biggest cause of is still the biggest cause of death men under 50in the uk. death for men under 50in the uk. and when you hear that statistic, it's always rather alarming. course alarming. but of course the reason is because reason that is, is because almost all other causes of almost all the other causes of death the uk have been death in the uk have been eliminated due medical eliminated due to medical science. yeah. eliminated due to medical science . yeah. so you're right. science. yeah. so you're right. ne— science. yeah. so you're right. no e— science. yeah. so you're right. no e gooe— science. yeah. so you're right. it's a good thing we're not committing suicide at a higher rate than we used to or anything. but she seems to think and anything. but she seems to think ene ionneine— anything. but she seems to think and lorraine and— g but she seems to think and lorraine and caitlin sat in men— and lorraine and caitlin sat in inein eiweio— and lorraine and caitlin sat in their studio and— and lorraine and caitlin sat in their studio and discussed the ieen— their studio and discussed the ieei inen— their studio and discussed the fact that the _ their studio and discussed the fact that the problem is that men-newe— fact that the problem is that men have conversations in men don't have conversations in the men don't have conversations in we ieeiee. — men don't have conversations in the ladies. loo— men don't have conversations in the ladies. loo well, of course inen— the ladies. loo well, of course ineilin— the ladies. loo well, of course that-in itself— the ladies. loo well, of course that-in itself an— the ladies. loo well, of course that in itself an issue at that is in itself an issue at ine— that is in itself an issue at the moment,— that is in itself an issue at the moment, isn't it? anyway you can the moment, isn't it? anyway you een-inowgn—veei can hear though can't you. yes. ween. wnen— can hear though can't you. yes. ween. wnei eo— can hear though can't you. yes. yeah. what do you— can hear though can't you. i413; “in?" what do you think can hear though can't you. “in; / what do you think is it yeah. what do you think is it eggnopnieie— yeah. what do you think is it egpnognieie ion— “in?" what do you think is it appropriate for women? i mean a lot appropriate for women? i mean a ioi oi— appropriate for women? i mean a ioi oi-eeie— appropriate for women? i mean a lot of-said was- appropriate for women? i mean a lot of-said was if- appropriate for women? i mean a lot of said was if two lot of people said was if two men-gone— lot of people said was if two men-gone on— lot of people said was if two men gone on and lot of people said was if two. men -gone on -and said, men are gone on telly and said, weii— men are gone on telly and said, weii nnie— men are gone on telly and said, weii inie ie— men are gone on telly and said, well this is what— men are gone on telly and said, well this is what the trouble winn— well this is what the trouble wiin women— well this is what the trouble with women is,— well this is what the trouble with women is, that they need to be with women is, that they need to ie-nen.— with women is, that they need to ie-nen. ani— with women is, that they need to be-men. and-for,-
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with women is, that they need to be men. and for, you be like men. and go for, you know,— be like men. and go for, you know ene— be like men. and go for, you know, and learn— be like men. and go for, you know, and learn how to sink. 13 pinne— know, and learn how to sink. 13 ninie oi— know, and learn how to sink. 13 ninie oi-on— know, and learn how to sink. 13 ninie oi-on e— know, and learn how to sink. 13 pints of on a friday pints of lager on a friday nigni. — pints of lager on a friday nigni. ane— pints of lager on a friday night. 2 pints of lager on a friday night. "2 cc": pints of lager on a friday- night. and whereas we tend to have conversation before have that conversation before the yes, absolutely the show starts. yes, absolutely not. it's perfectly fine not. i think it's perfectly fine because understand the because as i understand the counter argument, the comparison, you're doing comparison, but all you're doing is bnng comparison, but all you're doing is bring that is trying to bring in that second to a two second wrong to make a two wrongs. yeah, of course. either side of debate be side of this debate should be able have a voice on it able to have a voice on it because way talk because that way people talk about rather than it being about it rather than it being no, you say i'll no, you can't say that. i'll disclude your point of view. not because actually managed because i actually managed to disagree just find disagree with it. i just find you due to something you invalid due to something on a i think everyone a form. no, i think everyone should get to talk about men or women's issues. how would you ieen—ii— women's issues. how would you feel,_if somebody. feel, christopher, if somebody wene-e-ii- feel, christopher, if somebody wene-e-ii e- feel, christopher, if somebodyi were-a-if a man were to write a book, if a man io— were to write a book, if a man io wniie— were to write a book, if a man io wniie e— were to write a book, if a man was to write a book about about women's mental— was to write a book about about women's mental health issues iwii— women's mental health issues inn-eewe,- full of useful advice, i'd be eieoiwieiw— full of useful advice, i'd be absolutely flattered and flabbergasted. o" flabbergasted. i think, oh, my god, somebody's listening. somebody cares. i don't know. they often say that men need to open up and talk about it. i don't how i about don't know how i feel about that. mean, i love talking, that. i mean, i love talking, but female. sure you but i'm female. i'm not sure you should beating teenage head should keep beating teenage head teenage head with teenage boys over the head with this idea that, well, it's your own fault because you need to
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talk it. you should talk about it. you should gnoneniw— talk about it. you shouldj probably-literally talk about it. you should- probably-literally beat talk about it. you should- proba over-literally beat talk about it. you should- proba over the i literally beat c you should proba over the head. ally beat c you should proba over the head. ly beat talk about it. you should- proba over the head. i mean, they them over the head. i mean, they probably prefer that exactly. yeah. then they could. they could nice wrestling could have a nice wrestling match whatever you guys like match or whatever you guys like to that help. to do. and that might help. i don't know. yeah. a bit of square bashing.- don't know. yeah. a bit of square bashing. our- 2»:1»" c i425" a bit of square bashing. our next gweeiion— square bashing. our next gweeiion ie— square bashing. our next question is from barry again has oiwioweiw— question is from barry again has obviously travelled. hello hi. do obviously travelled. hello hi. ne-ine— obviously travelled. hello hi. ion-eie newei- obviously travelled. hello hi. do-the royal air- obviously travelled. hello hi. i do-the royal air force do you think the royal air force is art? well, of course is racist art? well, of course nnie— is racist art? well, of course inie ie— is racist art? well, of course we ie wow-n— is racist art? well, of course this is you're not— ”fit 327 well, of course this is you're not asking my opinion— this is you're not asking my opinion oi— this is you're not asking my opinion, of course, because i newe— opinion, of course, because i newe new— opinion, of course, because i have very experience of have very little experience of it. have very little experience of in nine— have very little experience of iiline nowei— have very little experience of it.-the royal air- have very little experience of it. the royal air force has it. but the royal air force has engeneniiw— it. but the royal air force has apparently unlawful apparently been unlawful discriminating against white men in—einee- discriminating against white men in—einee ei| in a recruitment drive aimed at iooeiing— in a recruitment drive aimed at iooeiing-an- in a recruitment drive aimed at boosting an official boosting diversity. an official inguin— boosting diversity. an official ingwiw nee— boosting diversity. an official inquiry has-that- boosting diversity. an official. inquiry has-that-the inquiry has found that to be the case. -marshal- inquiry has found that to be the case. -marshal sir- case. air chief marshal sir richard— case. air chief marshal sir richard knighton, case. air chief marshal sir- richard knighton,-head richard knighton, the new head of the— richard knighton, the new head of the raf,— richard knighton, the new head of the raf, said— richard knighton, the new head of the raf, said he apologised unreservedw— of the raf, said he apologised unreservedly to— of the raf, said he apologised unreservedly to all those affected,— unreservedly to all those affected, blaming the debacle on legal— affected, blaming the debacle on legal advice— affected, blaming the debacle on legal elvlee .— affected, blaming the debacle on legal advice . what do you think? legal advice. what do you think? cresslle— legal advice. what do you think? cresslle well— legal advice. what do you think? cressida well, i— legal advice. what do you think? cressida well, i think— legal advice. what do you think? cressida well, i think we- legal advice. what do you think? cressida well, i think we hear we often hear people say, oh, you want the person you just want the best person for and i can't think for the job. and i can't think of example that is more of an example where that is more relevant. think if you're what relevant. i think if you're what do they call it in the team? in the i don't even know the the squad, i don't even know the words you definitely your words. you definitely want your colleagues absolute colleagues to be the absolute cream crop, you? cream of the crop, don't you? and interfering with
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and to start interfering with the process does the recruitment process does seem not a good idea to me. seem not not a good idea to me. and i suppose there is that lee-e— and i suppose there is that lee-e lee— and i suppose there is that there's the independent individual— there's the independent individual-of. there's the independent. individual-of skill, there's the independent- individual-of skill, the individual element of skill, the talent,— individual element of skill, the talent, whatever— individual element of skill, the talent, whatever that you're leellne— talent, whatever that you're leellne-elee- talent, whatever that you're looking also the esprit looking for, but also the esprit de looking for, but also the esprit le-llel— looking for, but also the esprit de -that - hopefully i de corps that will hopefully else— de corps that will hopefully from — de corps that will hopefully arise from knowing you've all been— arise from knowing you've all been plelel— arise from knowing you've all been picked in— arise from knowing you've all been picked in that traditional top been picked in that traditional top eun— been picked in that traditional top ell wel— been picked in that traditional lee eee way ,— been picked in that traditional lee eee way, l— been picked in that traditional top gun way , i suppose. top gun way, i suppose. alelelel— top gun way, i suppose. aleleuel l— top gun way, i suppose. although i mean- top gun way, i suppose. although i mean that i hadn't thought of that argument, but that could lead to that. what do they it? the unconscious they call it? the unconscious bias hire people bias where you only hire people who same profile as you? who fit the same profile as you? yeah, this is yeah, but i think this is definitely a case where they got it wrong. if your attempts to correct issue to do with correct an issue to do with diversity equality diversity breaks the equality act it wrong. your goal act, you got it wrong. your goal may have fine, but may well have been fine, but that doesn't necessarily mean your execution of worked your execution of it has worked perfectly. have. i perfectly. yeah they have. i mean, there's all sorts of surveye— mean, there's all sorts of euweye ele— mean, there's all sorts of surveys and reports on surveys and reports and so on mel— surveys and reports and so on that demonstrated the that have demonstrated that the mere—reele- that have demonstrated that the more _ recruit, the i more blind you can recruit, the letter.— more blind you can recruit, the letter. ll— more blind you can recruit, the better. in fact,— more blind you can recruit, the better. in fact, even an lllelvlew— better. in fact, even an interview is— better. in fact, even an interview is often counterproductive, even interview is often— counterproductive, even though interview is often— countpeople ctive, even though interview is often— countpeople ctivethat n though interview is often— countpeople ctivethat would gh interview is often— countpeople ctivethat would be most people feel that would be naturally— most people feel that would be eelllelly earl— most people feel that would be naturally part of— most people feel that would be naturally part of a— most people feel that would be naturally part of a recruitment process. -could - naturally part of a recruitment process. -could be - naturally part of a recruitment process. could be quite process. so it could be quite lllelelly— process. so it could be quite literally-best— process. so it could be quite literally best thing you can literally the best thing you can do literally the best thing you can ee le— literally the best thing you can ee le le— literally the best thing you can ee le le leve— literally the best thing you can do is to have everyone been eeelelee— assigned a number or a eemelelely— assigned a number or a completely neutral name
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automatically— completely neutral name automatically by an algorithm. they— automatically by an algorithm. lley celle— automatically by an algorithm. they could have— automatically by an algorithm. they could have a— automatically by an algorithm. they could have a voice- automatically by an algorithm. they could have a voice changing app they could have a voice changing app and put them a confession app and put them in a confession box instead of a priest on the other side. it's captain again. i don't know the words. that's a solution. maybe. well, maybe. i mean, who actually mean, anyone who actually welelee— mean, anyone who actually welellel lee— mean, anyone who actually watched top gun, maverick, we are-aware that— watched top gun, maverick, we are aware that fighter are all aware that fighter elelee— are all aware that fighter. elelee—ell are all aware that fighter- elelee—ell ll planes are being phased out in levell— planes are being phased out in favour-drones— planes are being phased out in favour drones anyway. favour of drones now anyway. so it's favour of drones now anyway. so ll-e-eeelemle- favour of drones now anyway. so ll-e-eeeeemle ,- favour of drones now anyway. so it's-academic , but. it's all highly academic, but ellll— it's all highly academic, but ellll allel— it's all highly academic, but still after the— it's all highly academic, but still after the break on free seeeel— still after the break on free speech nation— still after the break on free speech nation ,_ still after the break on free speech nation , i'll be joined by speech nation, i'll be joined by eele— speech nation, i'll be joined by memlee el— speech nation, i'll be joined by members of the— speech nation, i'll be joined by members of the band whom by fire:— members of the band whom by eee, ele— members of the band whom by fire, who were— members of the band whom by fire, who were or— members of the band whom by fire, who were or whom were recently— fire, who were or whom were recently cancelled from a gig. they— recently cancelled from a gig. lley eel— recently cancelled from a gig. they say because— recently cancelled from a gig. they say because of comments mel— they say because of comments lley eeelel— they say because of comments they posted online. don't go away. — they posted online. don't go away. leek— they posted online. don't go away. leel ll— they posted online. don't go away. back in a— they posted online. don't go away. back in a moment. who .
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the speech nation. so last weekend, me me— speech nation. so last weekend, the essex band— speech nation. so last weekend, the essex band ,_ speech nation. so last weekend, the essex band , whom- f lam" so last weekend, the essex band , whom by fire the essex band, whom by fire ell— the essex band, whom by fire ell eel— the essex band, whom by fire were all set to— the essex band, whom by fire were all set to grace the stage at were all set to grace the stage ll me— were all set to grace the stage ll me lee— were all set to grace the stage at the lea folk— were all set to grace the stage at the lea folk festival. but a lew— at the lea folk festival. but a few days— at the lea folk festival. but a few days before— at the lea folk festival. but a few days before the gig, they were cancelled. _ few days before the gig, they were cancelled. and of course ellel— were cancelled. and of course ellel le— were cancelled. and of course ellel le ee— were cancelled. and of course ended up as all— were cancelled. and of course ended up as all cancelled. individuals— ended up as all cancelled. individuals and— ended up as all cancelled. individuals and organisations do on individuals and organisations do el llle— individuals and organisations do el llle eleelem. — individuals and organisations do on this program. the reason elemleel— on this program. the reason organised crs_ on this program. the reason organised crs gave the festival is organised crs gave the festival le em— organised crs gave the festival is an inclusive— organised crs gave the festival is an inclusive environment that elmle— is an inclusive environment that elelle elm— is an inclusive environment that stands with the _ is an inclusive environment that stands with the deep breath . stands with the deep breath. melee— stands with the deep breath. lgbtq+ community. the band elelme— lgbtq+ community. the band elelme me— lgbtq+ community. the band claims the organisers didn't memlel— claims the organisers didn't mention which— claims the organisers didn't mention which online comments mel— mention which online comments mew wee— mention which online comments they were referring— mention which online comments they were referring to, but they lellewe— they were referring to, but they lellewe ll— they were referring to, but they believe it concerns one band memle— believe it concerns one band member questioning the sexualization_ member questioning the sexualization of children in eeleele— sexualization of children in schools, which _ sexualization of children in schools, which is presumably reeleeemel— schools, which is presumably represented by— schools, which is presumably represented by one of those lmlllele— represented by one of those lllllele l— represented by one of those initials i gave— represented by one of those initials i gave earlier and a leek— initials i gave earlier and a book reading— initials i gave earlier and a book reading at— initials i gave earlier and a book reading at southend pride by book reading at southend pride lw m— book reading at southend pride lw em emlel— book reading at southend pride by an author who— book reading at southend pride by an author who reportedly elweeelee— by an author who reportedly advocates paedophilia. well i'm lee— advocates paedophilia. well i'm here le— advocates paedophilia. well i'm here le tell— advocates paedophilia. well i'm here to tell us— advocates paedophilia. well i'm here to tell us all— advocates paedophilia. well i'm here to tell us all about it. eml— here to tell us all about it. band members— here to tell us all about it. band members eliza mills and dan lellem— band members eliza mills and dan hallam. andrews— band members eliza mills and dan hallam. andrews is— band members eliza mills and dan hallam. andrews is that correct? met-e— hallam. andrews is that correct? llel-e ll.— hallam. andrews is that correct? llel-e ll. lem— hallam. andrews is that correct? that's it. dan, thank— hallam. andrews is that correct? that's it. dan, thank you- hallam. andrews is that correct? that's it. dan, thank you very much. dan . so let me start with much. dan. so let me start with
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you, eliza, before we get on to the meat of the subject, whom by fire. what's what's that all elem— fire. what's what's that all about then? _ fire. what's what's that all about then? so- �*" ”l; what's what's that all about then? so we, we love leonard cohen okay. yeah yeah. great inspiration to a lot of dan's songwriting and guitar playing in particular. and that was one of his song titles. yeah. who by fire. so yeah, who by yeah. who by fire. so yeah, who by fire , giving it an extra . by fire, giving it an extra. yeah. for legal reasons. so by fire, giving it an extra. - yeah. for legal reasons. so yeah . lle— yeah. for legal reasons. so yeah . lle eelele— yeah. for legal reasons. so yeah . the estate of— yeah. for legal reasons. so yeah . the estate of leonard cohen. mele— . the estate of leonard cohen. llel-e elem.— . the estate of leonard cohen. that's right. does— . the estate of leonard cohen. that's right. does that give us a sense of the— that's right. does that give us a sense of the kind of music you guys— a sense of the kind of music you ewe llle— a sense of the kind of music you guys like leonard— a sense of the kind of music you guys like leonard cohen folk is me— guys like leonard cohen folk is mm eem— guys like leonard cohen folk is that sort-what— guys like leonard cohen folk is that sort what we're hearing? that sort of what we're hearing? veal,— that sort of what we're hearing? well, ellelllw— that sort of what we're hearing? yeah, slightly miserablist, but a yeah, slightly miserablist, but elel— yeah, slightly miserablist, but a.of mandolin— yeah, slightly miserablist, but a of mandolin pick it up a bit of mandolin to pick it up at a bit of mandolin to pick it up el-eml. — a bit of mandolin to pick it up at-end. yeah,— a bit of mandolin to pick it up at end. “43?" cline at the end. yeah, absolutely. absolutely. so would you have regarded band or do you think political band or do you think of yourself as a sort of protest like marching band like a right wing marching band kind of thing ? no, nothing like kind of thing? no, nothing like mm.— kind of thing? no, nothing like mel- we— kind of thing? no, nothing like mel- we — kind of thing? no, nothing like mel- we se— kind of thing? no, nothing like that. no so was— kind of thing? no, nothing like that. no so was it— kind of thing? no, nothing like that. no so was it was- kind of thing? no, nothing like that. no so was it was it one of you who wrote the post, the. well, they didn't say which band memle— well, they didn't say which band memle ll— well, they didn't say which band member it was,— well, they didn't say which band member it was, but we kind of melem— member it was, but we kind of melem ll— member it was, but we kind of melell l e— member it was, but we kind of thought it was probably me. l thought it was probably me. it is . thought it was probably me. it le . all. — thought it was probably me. it le . all. all— thought it was probably me. it is . and. and you— thought it was probably me. it is . and. and you had- thought it was probably me. it is . and. and you had a- thought it was probably me. l is. and. and you had a few ciders? no, probably not. i think i wrote it in the morning,
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but think i wrote it in the morning, lm weem— think i wrote it in the morning, lee weem ee— think i wrote it in the morning, lee weel, ee— think i wrote it in the morning, but yeah, so, so probably so. i mean, obviously— but yeah, so, so probably so. i mean, obviously it's- but yeah, so, so probably so. i mean, obviously it's quite a serious issue. sexualisation of elllllel— serious issue. sexualisation of elllllel ell— sexualisation of children and obviously it is an leele— children and obviously it is an mel— children and obviously it is an issue that we've— children and obviously it is an issue that we've been covering on issue that we've been covering en el— issue that we've been covering en el newe— issue that we've been covering on gb news for— issue that we've been covering on gb news for a— issue that we've been covering on gb news for a while. was mele— on gb news for a while. was therelparticular_ on gb news for a while. was there particular of there a particular incident of it there a particular incident of ll—eeel— there a particular incident of ll—eeel ll- there a particular incident of ll—eeel ll ee- there a particular incident of it_seen in so ouri it that you'd seen in so our leeel— it that you'd seen in so our local southend— it that you'd seen in so our local southend pride had been elemellle— local southend pride had been elemelme e— local southend pride had been promoting a book reading event welte— promoting a book reading event wllle ly— promoting a book reading event wllle lw el— promoting a book reading event write by an author— promoting a book reading event write by an author called mario lllell— write by an author called mario lllell . — write by an author called mario lllell . eel.— write by an author called mario mieli . yeah, i'm— write by an author called mario mieli . yeah, i'm not- write by an author called mario mieli . / write by an author called mario mieli. / �*" mieli. yeah, i'm not sure if that's a correct pronunciation. an and he was an author who reportedly advocated for paedophilia and so obviously that's a bit like really directly or you're reading between the lines, the paedophilia . well, do people paedophilia. well, do people eemellw— paedophilia. well, do people actually come— paedophilia. well, do people actually come out— : l well, do people actually come out and like leellw— actually come out and like leellw wel— actually come out and like really, you know, strongly in levell— really, you know, strongly in lewew el— really, you know, strongly in favour of that. _ really, you know, strongly in favour of that. kelli“ really, you know, strongly in favour of that. velez“ favour of that. well, well it's quite easy to like research into it, but according to a brief biog that i, i read, he, i think he sort of said paedophilia nick gibb , philia and several other gibb, philia and several other things were ripe for redemption . okay, so it sounds like he lllel— . okay, so it sounds like he lllel ll.— . okay, so it sounds like he liked it. how— . okay, so it sounds like he liked it. how did— okay, so it sounds like he liked it. how did you feel about mele— liked it. how did you feel about mele lllze— liked it. how did you feel about that? eliza oh,— liked it. how did you feel about that? eliza oh, i— liked it. how did you feel about that? eliza oh, i didn't. i
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elm-l— that? eliza oh, i didn't. i llll-l l— that? eliza oh, i didn't. i didn't i didn't— that? eliza oh, i didn't. i didn't i didn't know- that? eliza oh, i didn't. i didn't i didn't know about it until we were told we were cancelled. and i was like, oh, what's dan written now let's have a little look. yeah. so i yeah, i mean , i'm going to yeah, i mean, i'm going to express probably a rather old fashioned stereotypical view here of southend , but i've never here of southend, but i've never really seen it as a hotbed of what i think of as west coast american liberal progressive politic. is it something leeeelel— politic. is it something happened since- e l. is it something happened since the last time i was here. self—insert motty now. yeah. has it changed seriously though? i mean, the last time i was there, it was mainly karate shops. that's what i remember. yeah. yeah. i think shops. that's what i remember. yeah. yeah. ithink there shops. that's what i remember. yeah. yeah. i think there is. there is definitely an element of is there. yeah. the long merel— of is there. yeah. the long march through— of is there. yeah. the long march through the- e"liil”liil yeah. the long march through the institutions has march through the institutions lee leeelel— march through the institutions has reached the— march through the institutions has reached the pier. / march through the institutions has reached the pier. “43?" has reached the pier. yeah. i'm not has reached the pier. yeah. i'm eel lulle— has reached the pier. yeah. i'm not quite sure what that means but it sounds about right. well the long march through- e 25 2 3 well the long march through the institution— the long march through the institution was— the long march through the institution was the idea like leeelee— institution was the idea like leeelee eee— institution was the idea like decades ago that in order to llle— decades ago that in order to llle le— decades ago that in order to like to induce— decades ago that in order to like to induce the west, which llle— like to induce the west, which eke, wel— like to induce the west, which was like, you know, enjoy the lelellle— was like, you know, enjoy the lelellle el— was like, you know, enjoy the benefits of capitalism , we were benefits of capitalism, we were
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eelle — benefits of capitalism, we were eeme le— benefits of capitalism, we were never going to have a marxist levelmlem — never going to have a marxist revolution. so— never going to have a marxist revolution. so instead, all the eeeemlee— revolution. so instead, all the academics had— revolution. so instead, all the academics had to— revolution. so instead, all the academics had to get themselves lme— academics had to get themselves lme me— academics had to get themselves into the british— academics had to get themselves into the british museum and the emlwelellw— into the british museum and the emlwelellw-em— into the british museum and the university-on. and,- into the british museum and the university on. and, you university and so on. and, you mew— university and so on. and, you knew met-e— university and so on. and, you know, that's why— university and so on. and, you know, that's why seen know, that's why we've all seen it know, that's why we've all seen ll-el— know, that's why we've all seen ll-el eeme— know, that's why we've all seen ll-el le— know, that's why we've all seen it-of come up from - know, that's why we've all seen it of come up from the it sort of come up from the melee— it sort of come up from the melee .— it sort of come up from the melee . lul— it sort of come up from the inside . but i— it sort of come up from the inside . but i assume it sort of come up from the- inside . but i-assume fumed inside. but i would assume fumed leew— inside. but i would assume fumed eel-em— inside. but i would assume fumed veel.-el eee— inside. but i would assume fumed yeah.-on sea. and- inside. but i would assume fumed yeah.-on sea. and so- inside. but i would assume fumed yeah. on sea. and so on yeah. leigh on sea. and so on well— yeah. leigh on sea. and so on were well, like— yeah. leigh on sea. and so on were well, like straight, good old fashioned— were well, like straight, good old fashioned british sort of wellee— old fashioned british sort of wellee ell— old fashioned british sort of values and so— old fashioned british sort of values and so on. but no, this ll-e— values and so on. but no, this ll-e leeeme— values and so on. but no, this it's become-woke- values and so on. but no, this it's become woke isn't it. it's become quite woke isn't it. veel— it's become quite woke isn't it. veel. mele-e— it's become quite woke isn't it. / there's definitely it's become quite woke isn't it. “43?" there's definitely an yeah. there's definitely an elemem. — yeah. there's definitely an element. yeah— “43?" there's definitely an element. / so they “43?" there's definitely an element. “43?" so they haven't element. yeah. so they haven't eemellw— element. yeah. so they haven't eemellw eell— element. yeah. so they haven't actually said to— element. yeah. so they haven't actually said to you— element. “43?" so they haven't actually said to you the elemeleele— actually said to you the organisers of- actually said to you the organisers of the festival. leeellw— organisers of the festival. exactly what _ organisers of the festival. exactly what it was but this is wlel— exactly what it was but this is wlel mew— exactly what it was but this is what they think— exactly what it was but this is what they think it was. ll?» what they think it was. no, no lee— what they think it was. no, no we've had since— what they think it was. no, no we've had since being cancelled we've had since being cancelled we've much radio we've had pretty much radio silence but we have silence but. yeah, but we have spoken to them , some possible spoken to them, some possible complainants who did pretty much say that's what it was. so and are they people who- are they people who were eeeeelme— are they people who were eeeeellme el— are they people who were appearing at the festival? well — appearing at the festival? well leem— appearing at the festival? well, yeah, some- appearing at the festival? well, yeah, some of- appearing at the festival? well, yeah, some of them would have been, yeah, or definitely they would have been at the festival. was just regular festival. was just regular festival goers. yeah how do you feel elem— festival goers. yeah how do you feel about it? _ festival goers. yeah how do you feel about it? i— festival goers. yeah how do you feel about it? i mean, is it a massive blow or is it you're just going to kind of weather it
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and carry on? or are you is it and carry on? or are you is it an opportunity to rebrand yourself as warriors now on this, it was a shock and it's been a bit of a whirlwind since it happened. definitely. um, leve— it happened. definitely. um, lewe wel— it happened. definitely. um, have you heard— it happened. definitely. um, have you heard from - e 2 definitely. um, have you heard from any fans elem— have you heard from any fans elem ll— have you heard from any fans elem l e— have you heard from any fans about it ? yeah.— have you heard from any fans about it? yeah. yeah, i'd say ll-e— about it? yeah. yeah, i'd say ll-e mel— about it? yeah. yeah, i'd say ll-e llel ll— about it? yeah. yeah, i'd say it's just it has— about it? yeah. yeah, i'd say it's just it has been an incredible— it's just it has been an incredible support from from all all incredible support from from all ell eeeee— incredible support from from all all across the _ incredible support from from all all across the world, really. veel. — all across the world, really. yeah. showing _ all across the world, really. yeah. showing love and respect ell— yeah. showing love and respect ell ewewlllme— yeah. showing love and respect and everything. so it's been. leem— and everything. so it's been. veem ll-e— and everything. so it's been. yeah, it's actually been really eeelllwe— yeah, it's actually been really positive. yeah.— yeah, it's actually been really positive. yeah. yeah yeah. well, mele-e— positive. yeah. yeah yeah. well, there's something— positive. yeah. yeah yeah. well, there's something turned around . om— there's something turned around . om weel. — there's something turned around . em weel. l— there's something turned around . oh, yeah. ”li;“li“ there's something turned around . oh, yeah. ”lit“li“ there's something turned around . oh, yeah. cit. . oh, yeah. i remember a couple of years ago, jerry sadowitz, who was a famously offensive comedian, was finally cancelled at the edinburgh fringe years after have been going, after people have been going, how come jerry's still going? and the next thing you know, he eele— and the next thing you know, he leee-meme— and the next thing you know, he gets - nights lthe - gets two nights at the hammersmith apollo he hammersmith apollo because he eele— hammersmith apollo because he eele me— hammersmith apollo because he eele the wee— hammersmith apollo because he creates the you know, it creates the you know, and it ween-l— creates the you know, and it wasn't cancellation, wasn't genuine cancellation, but mewle—elee. i maybe that's the next stop. veel. l— maybe that's the next stop. veel. lme— maybe that's the next stop. yeah. i mean, our- maybe that's the next stop. / i mean, our album sales yeah. i mean, our album sales leve— yeah. i mean, our album sales lewe eele— yeah. i mean, our album sales lewe leee-ee— yeah. i mean, our album sales lewe eele-ee l— yeah. i mean, our album sales have gone-so i have- / i mean, our album sales have gone so i have even have gone up, so i have even mel— have gone up, so i have even mee ,— have gone up, so i have even more than , than— have gone up, so i have even more than , than than performing more than, than than performing at more than, than than performing el me— more than, than than performing e the lee— more than, than than performing at the lee festival— more than, than than performing at the lee festival . well, i at the lee festival. well, i llle— at the lee festival. well, i llle-lee— at the lee festival. well, i like,-lee folk- at the lee festival. well, i like, lee folk festival like, say, lee folk festival eemellw— like, say, lee folk festival actually are _ like, say, lee folk festival actually are unofficial sponsors
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now because they've really leleel— now because they've really leleel le— now because they've really leleel wel— now because they've really helped us, you know. “421?" i'm helped us, you know. yeah. i'm leeme— helped us, you know. yeah. i'm leeme wel— helped us, you know. yeah. i'm leeme wee eel-l— helped us, you know. yeah. i'm hoping you don't use— helped us, you know. / i'm hoping you don't use gillette hoping you don't use gillette leee— hoping you don't use gillette lee le— hoping you don't use gillette razors to shape— hoping you don't use gillette razors to shape your face into me— razors to shape your face into me eleeem— razors to shape your face into that elegant beard because there lemelelw— that elegant beard because there lemelelw wele— that elegant beard because there famously woke brand. ”cl" c famously woke brand. aren't eleeee l— famously woke brand. aren't there? ithink— famously woke brand. aren't there? i think it's- famously woke brand. ”cl" c e"li'gi”liil7’ i think it's harry's of there? i think it's harry's of me— there? i think it's harry's of the anti—woke— siti?’ i think it's harry's of the anti—woke brazier ”esli;i;?’ i think it's harry's of the anti—woke brazier you've got to the anti—woke brazier you've got le mew. — the anti—woke brazier you've got le mew. lee— the anti—woke brazier you've got to know. but yeah. i- the anti—woke brazier you've got to know. i mean, have to know. but yeah. i mean, have you— to know. but yeah. i mean, have wee leee— to know. but yeah. i mean, have you been offered— to know. but yeah. i mean, have you been offered any— to know. i mean, have you been offered any other gigs eel.— you been offered any other gigs veel, yeah— you been offered any other gigs or. yeah, yeah, yeah.- you been offered any other gigs or. “43?“ will?“ will?" q�*lt or. yeah, yeah, yeah. quite, quite a lot actually. i mean we've literally social media likes of gone through the roof. we've been having like various offers. so it's been like really overwhelmed and really touching actually. so thank you to everyone. that's, that's supported . us and are you going supported. us and are you going to write a song about it? well , to write a song about it? well, funnily to write a song about it? well, mmllw elelel— to write a song about it? well, mmllw elelel ,— to write a song about it? well, funnily enough , we— g 7 well, funnily enough , we throw g t7 well, funnily enough , we throw the funnily enough, we throw the eewe— funnily enough, we throw the lewl me— funnily enough, we throw the down the well,— funnily enough, we throw the down the well, something like me— down the well, something like me . — down the well, something like me. me— down the well, something like that . we actually— down the well, something like that . �*fl�*ei; f down the well, something like that . f f that. we actually we actually recorded a song as a direct response yesterday . they response yesterday. they recorded it and- ”cit? «e e�*g they recorded it and mixed it and le— recorded it and mixed it and it's available— recorded it and mixed it and it's available to— recorded it and mixed it and it's available to download on lelleeme— it's available to download on our bandcamp ._ it's available to download on our bandcamp . yeah, fantastic.
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our bandcamp. yeah, fantastic. so our bandcamp. yeah, fantastic. se le— our bandcamp. yeah, fantastic. se le mel— our bandcamp. yeah, fantastic. so do that now— our bandcamp. yeah, fantastic. so do that now ._ our bandcamp. yeah, fantastic. so do that now . yeah. and what's so do that now. yeah. and what's the eele— so do that now. yeah. and what's the song called. _ so do that now. yeah. and what's the song called. it's— so do that now. yeah. and what's the song called. it's called the leeelem — the song called. it's called the leeelem sele— the song called. it's called the leeelem sele .— the song called. it's called the freedom song . like the sound of freedom song. like the sound of me.— freedom song. like the sound of me. — freedom song. like the sound of me. well— freedom song. like the sound of me. well we— freedom song. like the sound of that. well we will— freedom song. like the sound of that. well we will just- freedom song. like the sound of that. gt lg freedom song. like the sound of that. illitt gt lg t that. well we will just give it for the benefit of , of equality for the benefit of, of equality and balance a festival spokesperson has said lee folk festival is and has always been an inclusive environment where everyone should feel welcome and comfortable. even no, they don't say comfortable. even no, they don't eew mel- — comfortable. even no, they don't eew mee. llew— comfortable. even no, they don't say that. they don't— comfortable. even no, they don't say that. they don't say- f no, they don't say that. they don't say that. i leve— say that. they don't say that. i have extrapolated. t g“ have extrapolated. it's been leeeem— have extrapolated. it's been brought to our attention that a member of an act due to perform at this year's festival, has made remarks online that are not in keeping with lee folk arts values . as soon as we were made values. as soon as we were made aware the acts performance was pulled from the line—up, we or our curator would never knowingly book an artist known for this kind of behaviour and apologise for any worry anxiety or distress this has caused. i mean , it's boilerplate crap, mean, it's boilerplate crap, isn't it? that's the trouble they spout this stuff. they don't even write it. they peel
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it off as like letraset. i don't understand how they think they can get away with that. it's like, do they think people won't do their own research? well, and it's do their own research? well, and me lleelellle— do their own research? well, and it's disgusting that— do their own research? well, and it's disgusting that they- it's disgusting that they level-e— it's disgusting that they haven't—to. it's disgusting that they haven't—to and haven't responded to us and eemellw— haven't responded to us and actually-reason- haven't responded to us and actually reason to us, actually given a reason to us, to actually given a reason to us, le-leeee— actually given a reason to us, ee-leeee . — actually given a reason to us, to faces . “43?“ because this to our faces. yeah. because this is to our faces. yeah. because this leme— to our faces. yeah. because this le me eeellle— to our faces. yeah. because this is the trouble with— to our faces. “43?“ because this is the trouble with everyone eeeeewee— is the trouble with everyone eeeeewee el— is the trouble with everyone approves of the— is the trouble with everyone approves of the idea of inclusivity _ approves of the idea of inclusivity in- approves of the idea of inclusivity in principle, but of course inclusivity nowadays is mee-leee— course inclusivity nowadays is meee-leel ee- course inclusivity nowadays is more -used as an - more often used as an eeeeemlllw— more often used as an opportunity to exclude, isn't lee — opportunity to exclude, isn't it? absolutely— opportunity to exclude, isn't it? absolutely ._ opportunity to exclude, isn't it? ' e�*ilt�*u' “43?“ yeah. it? absolutely. yeah. yeah. there we are.— it? absolutely. yeah. yeah. there we are. thank- it? ' e�*ilt�*u' “43?“ yeah. there we are. thank you very much— there we are. thank you very much ee— there we are. thank you very much to elijah— there we are. thank you very much to elijah and ladies and gentlemen— much to elijah and ladies and gentlemen .— much to elijah and ladies and gentlemen . and— much to elijah and ladies and gentlemen . and you, leonard gentlemen. and you, leonard celel. — gentlemen. and you, leonard celel. se— gentlemen. and you, leonard cohen. so after— gentlemen. and you, leonard cohen. so after the- gentlemen. and you, leonard cohen. lie“ cohen. so after the break on free speech nation, we'll be looking at comments made by outgoing minister zac goldsmith at rishi sunak. government isn't lellle— at rishi sunak. government isn't eellle ele— at rishi sunak. government isn't taking the environment- ?5“ government isn't taking the environment seriously elelel. — taking the environment seriously elelel. leel— taking the environment seriously elelel. leel ll— taking the environment seriously enough. back in a— taking the environment seriously enough. back in a couple of mememe— enough. back in a couple of
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britain's news ._ britain's news. channel ' “2 britain's news. channel and welm— britain's news. channel and welcome back. _ britain's news. channel and welcome back. so- britain's news. channel and welcome back. so later in the show, i'll be turning agony uncle with the help of my panel chris skudder wetton and steve and alan help deal with and alan to help you deal with your dilemma as if your unfiltered dilemma as if your unfiltered dilemma as if you would like to have one of those problems answered our those problems answered by our expert email us at gb expert panel. email us at gb views. you can see that, i hope, on the screen gb views at gb news.com, we'll try to answer your issues in the meanwhile, on friday, tory minister zac goldsmith publicly clashed with prime minister rishi sunak after resigning from the government with an attack on the prime minister's apathy towards the environment in response, mr sunak accused the conservative peer of quitting rather than apologising for his role in a campaign to undermine a parliamentary committees probe into boris johnson, of whom mr goldsmith is a well known backer. so obviously a rather tangled knot there. here to discuss this, tory, tit for tat
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and whether zac goldsmith has a right to make claims on the government's green agenda , government's green agenda, whether those claims are correct, please welcome visiting professor at london south bank university, james woodhaven. thank you . have i have i thank you. have i have i pronounced your surname correctly would hasten. that's about woodhouse_ correctly would hasten. that's about woodhouse and- ff 2 that's about woodhouse and woodhouse. olew. — about woodhouse and woodhouse. olew. mew— about woodhouse and woodhouse. olew. llew lele— about woodhouse and woodhouse. olew. llew lele le— about woodhouse and woodhouse. okay. they felt it in— about woodhouse and woodhouse. okay. they felt it in a— about woodhouse and woodhouse. okay. they felt it in a sort- about woodhouse and woodhouse. okay. they felt it in a sort of- okay. they felt it in a sort of weird dutch way. i don't know if they were trying to align you. i'm weird. i'm dutch. okay. not via i'm weird. i'm dutch. okay. not wle seem— i'm weird. i'm dutch. okay. not via south africa as well, because goldsmith's one of you can't of that. can't can't accuse me of that. can't pin that on you. okay so give us a bit of background on this. well, all you know, zac goldsmith,— well, all you know, zac- goldsmith,_very goldsmith, i got to be very eeeeml— goldsmith, i got to be very careful what _ goldsmith, i got to be very careful what i— goldsmith, i got to be very careful what i say. he's worth leee— careful what i say. he's worth £300 million— careful what i say. he's worth £300 million at— careful what i say. he's worth £300 million at and he made the elem— £300 million at and he made the elem-ll— £300 million at and he made the right-in attacking- £300 million at and he made the right in attacking the right move in attacking the eeellememeew— right move in attacking the parliamentary privileges committee— parliamentary privileges committee for its kangaroo court mee— committee for its kangaroo court the l— committee for its kangaroo court the l lele— committee for its kangaroo court that it held about— committee for its kangaroo court that it held about boris lelleel. — that it held about boris johnson. i'm- that it held about boris johnson. i'm no defender of leele— johnson. i'm no defender of boris johnson,— johnson. i'm no defender of boris johnson, but i do believe me— boris johnson, but i do believe me elwlelw— boris johnson, but i do believe that anybody who— boris johnson, but i do believe that anybody who upsets harriet leeme— that anybody who upsets harriet leeme ell— that anybody who upsets harriet harman, mp gets— that anybody who upsets harriet harman, mp gets gets my vote and
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she harman, mp gets gets my vote and ele lee— harman, mp gets gets my vote and ele lee ew— harman, mp gets gets my vote and she has now escalated it so that any— she has now escalated it so that my ell— she has now escalated it so that my ell ell— she has now escalated it so that any mp and next— she has now escalated it so that any mp and next it'll be you and me wle— any mp and next it'll be you and me wle lee— any mp and next it'll be you and me wle lee e— any mp and next it'll be you and me wle lee e le— any mp and next it'll be you and me who has a go at— any mp and next it'll be you and me who has a go at the lelwlleeee— me who has a go at the privileges committee which eee-ewe— privileges committee which eee-ewe e— privileges committee which eee-ewe e eeeee— privileges committee which enjoys a great amount of eelwlleee— enjoys a great amount of eelwlleee ,— enjoys a great amount of privilege , which is going to be, privilege, which is going to be, you— privilege, which is going to be, wee leew— privilege, which is going to be, wee mew lee— privilege, which is going to be, you know, for the— privilege, which is going to be, you know, for the chop . and i you know, for the chop. and i mml— you know, for the chop. and i ellll le— you know, for the chop. and i think he was— you know, for the chop. and i think he was quite right to have a 90— think he was quite right to have e 90 el— think he was quite right to have e 90 el elem— think he was quite right to have a go at them where i think he's eemelelelw— a go at them where i think he's completely wrong— a go at them where i think he's completely wrong thing is to eleel— completely wrong thing is to eleel me— completely wrong thing is to attack the sunak government for not attack the sunak government for eel eelle— attack the sunak government for eel eeme lee— attack the sunak government for not going far enough on green meleee. — not going far enough on green meleee. leel— not going far enough on green matters. just this— not going far enough on green matters. just this morning we've leemel— matters. just this morning we've leemel mee— matters. just this morning we've learned that they're going to eeeel— learned that they're going to eeeel ewlele— learned that they're going to erect pylons all— learned that they're going to erect pylons all over the eeemew— erect pylons all over the eeemew ee— erect pylons all over the country to carry the enormous emeem— country to carry the enormous emeem el— country to carry the enormous amount of electric charge that is amount of electric charge that le eelle— amount of electric charge that le eeme ee— amount of electric charge that le eeme le le— amount of electric charge that is going to be needed for all me— is going to be needed for all the squillions_ is going to be needed for all the squillions of— is going to be needed for all the squillions of electric cars mee— the squillions of electric cars mee ee— the squillions of electric cars that are suddenly going to eeeeee— that are suddenly going to eeeeee eleee— that are suddenly going to appear after 2030 and 2035. it's all appear after 2030 and 2035. it's ell eelllel— appear after 2030 and 2035. it's ell eelllel .— appear after 2030 and 2035. it's all rubbish . the— appear after 2030 and 2035. it's all rubbish . the government is all rubbish. the government is mewlle— all rubbish. the government is mewme eleel— all rubbish. the government is moving ahead to— all rubbish. the government is moving ahead to restrict our eleme— moving ahead to restrict our rights through— moving ahead to restrict our rights through low traffic leeweele — rights through low traffic networks, through heat pumps, eleeeel— networks, through heat pumps, through everything really . and through everything really. and the ele— through everything really. and the only problem for zac goldsmith— the only problem for zac goldsmith was it wasn't doing eleeel— goldsmith was it wasn't doing eleeel el— goldsmith was it wasn't doing enough of that— goldsmith was it wasn't doing enough of that repression . enough of that repression. lleme — enough of that repression. lleme se— enough of that repression. right? so that's- enough of that repression. right? “g enough of that repression.- right? so that's interesting. so on the one hand, we regard him as a champion and as a champion of free speech and the to resist
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the right to resist parliamentary overreach. on parliamentary overreach. and on the he's talking the other hand, he's talking a lot of hot air on the green issue thing. i wouldn't say he was a champion— issue thing. i wouldn't say he was a champion for- issue thing. i wouldn't say he was a champion for it.- “g i wouldn't say he was a champion for it. i mean, wle-e— was a champion for it. i mean, who's ever heard— was a champion for it. i mean, who's ever heard of zac goldsmith _ who's ever heard of zac goldsmith until he resigned? so jimmy's— goldsmith until he resigned? so jimmy's — goldsmith until he resigned? so jimmy's son. 32d“t sorry. 2 jimmy's son. right. sorry. sir lemee— jimmy's son. right. sorry. sir james, sir james goldsmith, jimmy's son. right. sorry. sir james, sirjames goldsmith, the james, sir james goldsmith, the marmite king was head of marmite king who was head of cavendish before you were cavendish foods before you were born? well, no, i remember sir james— born? well, no, i remember sir lemee leeeeee— born? well, no, i remember sir james because he— 7 well, no, i remember sir james because he was one of the lee— james because he was one of the lee ele— james because he was one of the bete noire . private _ james because he was one of the bete noire private eye bete noire of private eye meeeeleee— bete noire of private eye throughout the 1980s 90s, throughout the 1980s and 90s, eleel— throughout the 1980s and 90s, eleme-lew— throughout the 1980s and 90s, along tiny rowland. will?" along with tiny rowland. so yeah . mew— along with tiny rowland. so yeah . mew — along with tiny rowland. so yeah . mew leew— along with tiny rowland. so yeah , they were. they never departed the pages , the back pages of the pages, the back pages of private eye. zac is, by comparison, a fairly mild mannered sort of figure. well, i think if you look at— mannered sort of figure. well, i think if you look at his- ’“”ei;l2 �*7 g ”c: well, i think if you look at his love for think if you look at his love lee leee— think if you look at his love for lord de—man, the head of the ellmeee— for lord de—man, the head of the climate change— for lord de—man, the head of the climate change committee, if you lele— climate change committee, if you eele lle— climate change committee, if you take his record— climate change committee, if you take his record of— climate change committee, if you take his record of support for dell— take his record of support for david cameron,— take his record of support for david cameron, for boris johnson , lee— david cameron, for boris johnson , lee llz— david cameron, for boris johnson , lee llz leeee— david cameron, for boris johnson , for liz truss, for— david cameron, for boris johnson , for liz truss, for rishi sunak , i , for liz truss, for rishi sunak , l weelle-l— , for liz truss, for rishi sunak , i wouldn't describe his green lewe— , i wouldn't describe his green views as mild— , i wouldn't describe his green views as mild at— , i wouldn't describe his green views as mild at all. i'd say mew— views as mild at all. i'd say llew wee— views as mild at all. i'd say they were ferociously batty myself — they were ferociously batty myself, ferociously batty. mele— myself, ferociously batty. llel-e e— myself, ferociously batty. that's a powerful phrase. yeah well— that's a powerful phrase. yeah well lee— that's a powerful phrase. yeah well le-e le— that's a powerful phrase. yeah well, he's in love— that's a powerful phrase. yeah well, he's in love with indigenous— well, he's in love with indigenous peoples and the next lmee— indigenous peoples and the next lllee wee-ll— indigenous peoples and the next thing you'll know—
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indigenous peoples and the next thing you'll know he'll have a elee— thing you'll know he'll have a elee lleeeel— thing you'll know he'll have a ring through his— thing you'll know he'll have a ring through his nose because of the ring through his nose because of me eeeelel— ring through his nose because of the special knowledge they have eleel— the special knowledge they have elem-eleel— the special knowledge they have about-planet. and - the special knowledge they have about planet. and really about the planet. and really leleeeellee,— about the planet. and really interesting,.you- about the planet. and really interesting, you read the interesting, if you read the eleewee— interesting, if you read the observer-today,i interesting, if you read the observer today, you observer editorial today, you leew— observer editorial today, you leew mew— observer editorial today, you know, they endorse his resignation— know, they endorse his resignation because they think mel— resignation because they think me leele— resignation because they think that boris was— resignation because they think that boris was terrific about me— that boris was terrific about the environment . now, there was the environment. now, there was a the environment. now, there was ellme— the environment. now, there was ellme wlee— the environment. now, there was a time when they— the environment. now, there was a time when they didn't like leele— a time when they didn't like leele eel— a time when they didn't like boris and grandees like zac eellemlle— boris and grandees like zac goldsmith, but— boris and grandees like zac goldsmith, but now just because mew— goldsmith, but now just because llew mele— goldsmith, but now just because they make enough— goldsmith, but now just because they make enough green noises, mew— they make enough green noises, llew eel— they make enough green noises, llew eel me— they make enough green noises, they get the guardian vote. lee— they get the guardian vote. le-e eel— they get the guardian vote. ee-e eel me— they get the guardian vote. he's got the sort— they get the guardian vote. he's got the sort of- they get the guardian vote. he's got the sort of chief seattle style speech that all things are connected and all that sort of business. all of that. yeah, we cannot eat money and so on, but the mysticism that envelops the green movement really is quite. i want to ask you about the electric cars thing, since you since you raised that. and i didn't know the going live the pylons were going up. i live in hove, which is in brighton and hove, which is famously. absolutely. and famously. well, absolutely. and famously. well, absolutely. and famously hock to green famously in hock to green thinking . famously in hock to green thinking. but it's famously in hock to green thinking . but it's been thinking. but it's been interesting caroline interesting recently. caroline lucas, mp for the central lucas, the mp for the central constituency of which i'm not a part, under peter kyle, part, i'm under peter kyle, who's actually a reasonably moderate but moderate sort of labour mp. but we had lot greens in we have had a lot of greens in our and they've been our council and they've been
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turfed recently the most turfed out recently in the most recent elections because recent council elections because people fed up the people were fed up of the incoherent and sort of totemic policies that weren't that didn't actually work on the ground and their effort to try and make green motorists the coming thing is so totally at odds with the availability of charging units. i mean, it's just absolutely absurd. well, i don't really go too much- 2 well, i don't really go too much on 22 well, i don't really go too much on the melee— don't really go too much on the eleeelee eelle— don't really go too much on the charging units thing because it's charging units thing because ll-e eeellw— charging units thing because it's really grant— charging units thing because it's really grant shapps eemelelel. — it's really grant shapps complaint. you know, i've got a big complaint. you know, i've got a lle eleelele— complaint. you know, i've got a big electric roller.— complaint. you know, i've got a big electric roller. where am i eleeelee— big electric roller. where am i eleeelee e— big electric roller. where am i eleeelee elee— big electric roller. where am i charging ? you know, and that charging? you know, and that leeee-l— charging? you know, and that leeee-l eeelw— charging? you know, and that leeee-l eeelw le— charging? you know, and that doesn't apply to most of us. mele— doesn't apply to most of us. we eel— doesn't apply to most of us. that's not the— doesn't apply to most of us. that's not the problem. the eeellem— that's not the problem. the eeellem le— that's not the problem. the problem is if— that's not the problem. the problem is if you actually lellee— problem is if you actually lellee le— problem is if you actually bother to read,- problem is if you actually bother to read, you know, eleeeele— bother to read, you know, struggle through the 400 or 600 pages— struggle through the 400 or 600 eeeee el— struggle through the 400 or 600 eeeee el me— struggle through the 400 or 600 pages of the climate change cemmlllee— pages of the climate change committee, unelected lord and lele— committee, unelected lord and lele el— committee, unelected lord and lots of greens— committee, unelected lord and lots of greens ,_ committee, unelected lord and lots of greens , if— committee, unelected lord and lots of greens , if you go lots of greens, if you go lleeeel— lots of greens, if you go through their- lots of greens, if you go through their report, they're vou— through their report, they're wee leew— through their report, they're you know, adamant that the 2030 ban you know, adamant that the 2030 lee ee— you know, adamant that the 2030 lee ee eeleel— you know, adamant that the 2030 ban on petrol and— you know, adamant that the 2030 ban on petrol and diesel wellelee— ban on petrol and diesel vehicles must- ban on petrol and diesel vehicles must go ahead . vehicles must go ahead. throughout— vehicles must go ahead. throughout that report . but the throughout that report. but the eleeee— throughout that report. but the eleeee eeel— throughout that report. but the phrase used cars— throughout that report. but the phrase used cars is not in that eeeeel— phrase used cars is not in that eeeeel. lleee— phrase used cars is not in that report. there are— phrase used cars is not in that report. there are 7— phrase used cars is not in that report. there are 7 million going— report. there are 7 million eeme ee— report. there are 7 million eeme e— report. there are 7 million
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going on, 8 million used cars of leemel— going on, 8 million used cars of internal combustion engine weelelw— internal combustion engine weelelw eell— internal combustion engine variety sold in— internal combustion engine variety sold in the country eweew— variety sold in the country eweew weee. — variety sold in the country every year. there's absolutely no every year. there's absolutely ee wew— every year. there's absolutely ee wew mel— every year. there's absolutely no way that they're going to go ewew— no way that they're going to go ewew le— no way that they're going to go ewew le e— no way that they're going to go ewew le e leew.— no way that they're going to go away in a hurry. there are 35 mllllee— away in a hurry. there are 35 million cars— away in a hurry. there are 35 million cars on— away in a hurry. there are 35 million cars on the country's eele— million cars on the country's eele le— million cars on the country's eele le le— million cars on the country's roads, 33 to 35— million cars on the country's roads, 33 to 35 million at the memel — roads, 33 to 35 million at the memel lle— roads, 33 to 35 million at the moment. the car— roads, 33 to 35 million at the moment. the car sales of eleelele— moment. the car sales of electric cars— moment. the car sales of electric cars are- moment. the car sales of electric cars are 700,000 or mewle— electric cars are 700,000 or mewle e— electric cars are 700,000 or maybe a million— electric cars are 700,000 or maybe a million if you ended mem— maybe a million if you ended llem ee— maybe a million if you ended them on 2030,— maybe a million if you ended them on 2030, like zac and all me— them on 2030, like zac and all me zeelele— them on 2030, like zac and all the zealots would— them on 2030, like zac and all the zealots would like . why van the zealots would like. why van elee— the zealots would like. why van llee le— the zealots would like. why van llee le eelle— the zealots would like. why van llee le eeme le— the zealots would like. why van man is going to go mad at aeleeee— man is going to go mad at autocar and— man is going to go mad at autocar and autotrader are going to autocar and autotrader are going le 90 — autocar and autotrader are going le 90 mel— autocar and autotrader are going le 90 met. lel— autocar and autotrader are going to go mad. and anybody who leeee-l— to go mad. and anybody who leeee-l llwe— to go mad. and anybody who doesn't live on— to go mad. and anybody who doesn't live on the london underground— doesn't live on the london underground is— doesn't live on the london underground is going to be eeelw— underground is going to be eeellw — underground is going to be pretty cross. so— underground is going to be pretty cross. so they're just llwlee — pretty cross. so they're just llwlee le— pretty cross. so they're just living in utopia— pretty cross. so they're just living in utopia land. but the consequence is— living in utopia land. but the consequence is one of the things mel— consequence is one of the things the me— consequence is one of the things the me clo— consequence is one of the things that the ceo of— consequence is one of the things that the ceo of the— consequence is one of the things that the ceo of the climate cleeee— that the ceo of the climate change committee, chris stark, wle— change committee, chris stark, wle lee— change committee, chris stark, wle lee e— change committee, chris stark, who has a wonderful background in who has a wonderful background le me— who has a wonderful background in the scottish— who has a wonderful background in the scottish treasury, so he leewe— in the scottish treasury, so he knows everything— in the scottish treasury, so he knows everything about your and my knows everything about your and mw llel— knows everything about your and mw llel el— knows everything about your and my kind of money.— knows everything about your and my kind of money. he he said, you— my kind of money. he he said, wee leew— my kind of money. he he said, wee leew ee— my kind of money. he he said, you know, one of— my kind of money. he he said, you know, one of the real eeelleme— you know, one of the real problems with— you know, one of the real problems with the government is not entertaining— problems with the government is not entertaining the idea of eeleellw— not entertaining the idea of actually cutting back on the emlee— actually cutting back on the emlee el— actually cutting back on the number of cars— actually cutting back on the number of cars on our roads. so,
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wee— number of cars on our roads. so, wee leew— number of cars on our roads. so, wee leew ,— number of cars on our roads. so, wee leew , llle— number of cars on our roads. so, you know , like our— number of cars on our roads. so, you know , like our malthusian you know, like our malthusian leleele— you know, like our malthusian friends always— you know, like our malthusian friends always want to cull the eeeelellee— friends always want to cull the eeeelellee ,— friends always want to cull the population , starting with you, population, starting with you, not population, starting with you, eel llem — population, starting with you, eel llem .— population, starting with you, not them . they— population, starting with you, not them . they want to stop you not them. they want to stop you lelwlee — not them. they want to stop you lelwlee weee— not them. they want to stop you driving your cars— not them. they want to stop you driving your cars kind of now, you— driving your cars kind of now, wee leew. — driving your cars kind of now, wee leew. lel— driving your cars kind of now, you know. but can- driving your cars kind of now, you know. e?" driving your cars kind of now, you know. tiit“ driving your cars kind of now, you know. tii“ you know. but can i ask you, is there i mean, i think you will be speaking to preaching to the choir, to a large extent on the gb news network. but is there eewee— gb news network. but is there eewee wee— gb news network. but is there eewee wee ee— gb news network. but is there anyone you can vote- gb news network. but is there anyone you can vote for- cit \ but is there anyone you can vote for to lemeeeleele— anyone you can vote for to demonstrate your enthusiasm for the demonstrate your enthusiasm for me eeleel— demonstrate your enthusiasm for the petrol driven— demonstrate your enthusiasm for the petrol driven future? it llle— the petrol driven future? it seems like the— the petrol driven future? it seems like the two the two main eeellee— seems like the two the two main eeellee ee— seems like the two the two main parties are offering— seems like the two the two main parties are offering scant difference. _ parties are offering scant difference. my- parties are offering scant difference. like 3 3“ difference. my slogan is run, simon, run. you know, i vote for you. i'll vote for anybody in the audience. i will not vote for zac goldsmith. i will not vote for harriet harman. and don't talk to me about david miliband . you know, we are miliband. you know, we are really going backwards and, you know, i like the environment. i like animals as as long as i don't identify as an animal, i like planets. the joke is eeeellw— like planets. the joke is eeeellw l— like planets. the joke is usually i couldn't- t the joke is usually i couldn't eat a whole lel— usually i couldn't eat a whole let el— usually i couldn't eat a whole one. but of course,- usually i couldn't eat a whole one. i usually i couldn't eat a whole one. ti.tit. t?“ one. but of course, with animals you possibly could. i don't know. i think you've lost me lleee. — know. i think you've lost me lleee. eell— know. i think you've lost me there. well, i— know. i think you've lost me
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there. well, i like- i think you've lost me there. tiltitt t ti.“ 2 2tit“ there. well, i like children, but i couldn't eat a whole one. i can't remember who that was, but i'm going there. but you but i'm not going there. but you know what we need— but i'm not going there. but you know what we need is- git “g but you know what we need is normal eeeele— know what we need is normal eeeeleleleel— know what we need is normal eeeeleleleel ee— know what we need is normal people stand up and have the people to stand up and have the leele— people to stand up and have the leele-mele— people to stand up and have the facts their fingertips and facts at their fingertips and me— facts at their fingertips and the coherent— facts at their fingertips and the coherent arguments to rebut this the coherent arguments to rebut llle eeeee— the coherent arguments to rebut this green madness. because what it this green madness. because what ll eeellw— this green madness. because what ll eeellw le— this green madness. because what it really is about— this green madness. because what it really is about is— this green madness. because what it really is about is rationing eeeeew— it really is about is rationing eeeeew .— it really is about is rationing our energy , stopping our our energy, stopping our melllllw— our energy, stopping our melllllw .— our energy, stopping our mobility , and- our energy, stopping our mobility , and never insulting mobility, and never insulting leeelel— mobility, and never insulting harriet harman.— mobility, and never insulting harriet harman. again, it's eeeeeelewe— harriet harman. again, it's eeeeelewe .— harriet harman. again, it's repressive , it's— harriet harman. again, it's repressive , it's reactionary, repressive, it's reactionary, eel— repressive, it's reactionary, eel lle— repressive, it's reactionary, eel ll-e ee— repressive, it's reactionary, and it's no way— repressive, it's reactionary, and it's no way forward for this eeellw— and it's no way forward for this eeeelew . — and it's no way forward for this eeeelew . lel— and it's no way forward for this country . and of— and it's no way forward for this country . ' country. and of course, the other issue which ties in with it is in terms of fuel security, energy security, which was, of course, you know, the ukraine war came with almost war came in with almost extraordinarily , almost extraordinarily, almost implausible, perfect timing with the elevation of the green agenda. well, the elevation of the green agenda . well, the green the agenda. well, the green the teen— agenda. well, the green the green argument— agenda. well, the green the green argument on- g 2 well, the green the green argument on that is that wlel— green argument on that is that wlel eewee— green argument on that is that wlel eewee le— green argument on that is that wind power is nine times cheaper mee— wind power is nine times cheaper the lee— wind power is nine times cheaper then eee llel— wind power is nine times cheaper than gas fired power stations. llel-e— than gas fired power stations. llel-e leeel— than gas fired power stations. that's based on— than gas fired power stations. that's based on a— than gas fired power stations. that's based on a article in the eeele— that's based on a article in the eele lelel— that's based on a article in the carbon brief, which— that's based on a article in the carbon brief, which has been eemelelelw— carbon brief, which has been completely dismantled by anybody who completely dismantled by anybody wle leewe— completely dismantled by anybody who knows anything . so, you who knows anything. so, you leew.— who knows anything. so, you leew. llew-ee — who knows anything. so, you know, they're not— who knows anything. so, you know, they're not right about it lelee— know, they're not right about it lelee eleeeee— know, they're not right about it being cheaper, but they do argue
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llel.— being cheaper, but they do argue llel. wee— being cheaper, but they do argue llel. wee leew.— being cheaper, but they do argue that, you know, in— being cheaper, but they do argue that, you know, in order to eelelllel— that, you know, in order to establish energy security, the leel— establish energy security, the leel lmee— establish energy security, the leel lllee le— establish energy security, the best thing is to— establish energy security, the best thing is to use renewables. elleewlee— best thing is to use renewables. otherwise known— best thing is to use renewables. otherwise known as unreliables . otherwise known as unreliables. it otherwise known as unreliables. ll le— otherwise known as unreliables. ll le eel— otherwise known as unreliables. ll le eel leee— otherwise known as unreliables. it is not true because what's going— it is not true because what's eeme le— it is not true because what's going to happene— it is not true because what's going to happen, what's already leeeeelee— going to happen, what's already leeeeelee le— going to happen, what's already happening is we're buying a shed leel— happening is we're buying a shed leel el— happening is we're buying a shed leel el elele— happening is we're buying a shed load of shale gas— happening is we're buying a shed load of shale gas from america. seme— load of shale gas from america. seme leem — load of shale gas from america. some from russia— load of shale gas from america. some from russia as well, leeeeee— some from russia as well, because we can't do without it. vee— because we can't do without it. lee leew.— because we can't do without it. lee leew. eee— because we can't do without it. lee leew. eee .— because we can't do without it. you know, gas , you might not you know, gas, you might not lle— you know, gas, you might not lllelll-e— you know, gas, you might not lllelll-e-le- you know, gas, you might not like-it's-to be- you know, gas, you might not like it's to be around like it. it's going to be around for like it. it's going to be around lee-lel— like it. it's going to be around for-and that's- like it. it's going to be around for-and that's a- like it. it's going to be around for and that's a fact. for decades. and that's a fact. vee— for decades. and that's a fact. lee leew. — for decades. and that's a fact. lee leew. wee— for decades. and that's a fact. you know, you can't undo it. lle— you know, you can't undo it. ll-e eel— you know, you can't undo it. it's not intermittent. and the eel— it's not intermittent. and the elell we— it's not intermittent. and the elell we eel— it's not intermittent. and the stuff we get will— it's not intermittent. and the stuff we get will probably end up stuff we get will probably end ee-llellee— stuff we get will probably end ee-llellee le— stuff we get will probably end up dirtier in many regards up being dirtier in many regards llel— up being dirtier in many regards llel-leve— up being dirtier in many regards llel-lewe-ll- up being dirtier in many regards than-have-if we'd| than it would have been if we'd mele— than it would have been if we'd melelel— than it would have been if we'd madelat home. _ than it would have been if we'd made at home. tiltitt made it at home. well, you know, i'm sure i buy the whole i'm not sure i buy the whole term clean energy. dirty energy, elell. — term clean energy. dirty energy, elell. cleee— term clean energy. dirty energy, right. clean energy— i“ ti;“li;2t2we dirty energy, right. clean energy energy right. clean energy means energy leem— right. clean energy means energy leem cllee— right. clean energy means energy from china because— right. clean energy means energy from china because it's china llel-e— from china because it's china llel-e lelee— from china because it's china that's doing all— from china because it's china that's doing all the wind leelleee— that's doing all the wind leelleee .— that's doing all the wind turbines . it's— that's doing all the wind turbines . it's china that's turbines. it's china that's eeeeelellw— turbines. it's china that's especially doing the solar eeeele— especially doing the solar eeeele. lle— especially doing the solar panels. it's china that does the eleelele— panels. it's china that does the electric vehicles.— panels. it's china that does the electric vehicles. if— panels. it's china that does the electric vehicles. if you want to electric vehicles. if you want le lell— electric vehicles. if you want to talk about— electric vehicles. if you want to talk about mining cobalt with we— to talk about mining cobalt with weee leele— to talk about mining cobalt with weee leele ee— to talk about mining cobalt with your hands as a— to talk about mining cobalt with your hands as a child, as 40,000 elllleee— your hands as a child, as 40,000 elllleee le— your hands as a child, as 40,000 children do in— your hands as a child, as 40,000 children do in the— your hands as a child, as 40,000 children do in the democratic leeellle— children do in the democratic leeellle el— children do in the democratic republic of the— children do in the democratic republic of the congo, that ele-l— republic of the congo, that ele-l eleel— republic of the congo, that ele-l eleee .— republic of the congo, that ain't clean , folks. nobody ain't clean, folks. nobody lewlee— ain't clean, folks. nobody lewlee le—
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ain't clean, folks. nobody lewlee le le— ain't clean, folks. nobody trying to do that clean stare. my trying to do that clean stare. tlw leeellee— trying to do that clean stare. tlw leeellee le— trying to do that clean stare. my daughter to that- trying to do that clean stare. my daughter to that as- trying to do that clean stare. my daughter to that as a- trying to do that clean stare. my daughter to that as a gap yeah my daughter to that as a gap year. but it didn't come out that way. well the we'll see how the other half have lived this morning with your hands. the other half have lived this morning with your hands . well, morning with your hands. well, you know, it would have warmed her up, i think, for a tough quy- her up, i think, for a tough guy. university james woodhouse and guy. university james woodhouse eel-eel— guy. university james woodhouse and-and gentlemen,- gt? university james woodhouse and and gentlemen, our and ladies and gentlemen, our eeeel— and ladies and gentlemen, our eeeel wlelllee— and ladies and gentlemen, our guest visiting expert on the ee—eellel— guest visiting expert on the so—called green agenda. after the so—called green agenda. after lle leeel— so—called green agenda. after lle leeel ee— so—called green agenda. after the break on free— so—called green agenda. after the break on free speech nation, we have the latest from a divided united states. and this week, a controversial decision by the supreme court to end affirmative action at universities . we'll be universities. we'll be discussing that in a couple of minutes .
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referred , has. i know, but referred, has. i know, but that's that's what it's called has ruled that universities cannot consider a prospective students race in isolation when deciding admission. the ruling ends a decades long practise of so—called affirmative action. positive discrimination is the term preferred in the uk, where universities could take race into account in order to improve or at least change diversity . or at least change diversity. affirmative action first made its way into us policy in the 1960s, following the civil rights legislation as many all white schools began admitting minority students. however, the court just like us, society has divided sharply on ideological lines . increasingly since then, lines. increasingly since then, the six conservative justices in the six conservative justices in the majority heralded this decision as a step towards a more colour—blind society, where students will be measured by their accomplishments , the their accomplishments, the quality of their character in king's famous phrase rather than their race. the three liberals, on the other hand, condemn
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stemmed the ruling, arguing that it ignored the ongoing reality of discrimination in america. to discuss this issue and get the latest on the race for the white house, i'm joined from washington by john christopher bucha, the white house correspondent. for real political news. hello .john > political news. hello. john > simon a pleasure. you're much lellee— simon a pleasure. you're much better looking— simon a pleasure. you're much better looking than i thought el. — better looking than i thought el. oh.— better looking than i thought at. oh, that's— better looking than i thought at. oh, that's that's- better looking than i thought at. i at. oh, that's that's because i've replaced the usual host. that's that's very kind of you . that's that's very kind of you. so that's that's very kind of you. se leel— that's that's very kind of you. se leel elve— that's that's very kind of you. se leel elwe ee— that's that's very kind of you. so just give us a— that's that's very kind of you. so just give us a little bit of leeleeeeel— so just give us a little bit of background in— so just give us a little bit of background in your own words as twe— background in your own words as me given— background in your own words as me elwee e— background in your own words as i've given a certain— background in your own words as i've given a certain sort of eemmeew— i've given a certain sort of eemmeew el— i've given a certain sort of summary of it,— i've given a certain sort of summary of it, but just so that ee lle— summary of it, but just so that we're on the same— summary of it, but just so that we're on the same page , i think we're on the same page, i think we— we're on the same page, i think weee eemmeew— we're on the same page, i think wee eemmeew wee— we're on the same page, i think your summary was, was fairly accurate. we've— your summary was, was fairly accurate. �*flt�*ti; g“ your summary was, was fairly accurate. “ git “lg accurate. we've been going through the civil rights movement here in this country , movement here in this country, equal rights for all. and it's a very interesting and historic day today. in 1964, lyndon baines johnson signed the civil rights act in front of martin luther king. robert kennedy and
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j . edgar hoover, believe it or j. edgar hoover, believe it or not, and others . and it was the not, and others. and it was the beginning of what we considered a real civil rights movement in this country, started by eisenhower, believe it or not. jfk moving to lbj and we moving through this time. and the court ruling is basically the ruling is one of what i call the trump scotus legacy court. and he rejected and he predicted that he would be putting conservative judges on the court. and he did just that to satisfy his maga republicans and hoping that he gets re—elected again in 2024. so it's quite interesting to me. there are at least two elements leee— there are at least two elements leee llel— there are at least two elements leee llel ee— there are at least two elements here that are like— there are at least two elements here that are like separately. leleeeellee— here that are like separately. interesting. one— here that are like separately. interesting. one is what you've leel— interesting. one is what you've leel eell— interesting. one is what you've leel eell llel— interesting. one is what you've just said that what some people eeeeel— just said that what some people eeeeel ee— just said that what some people eeeeel ee e— just said that what some people regard as a significant eleeleele— regard as a significant strategic legacy of the trump administration— strategic legacy of the trump administration .— strategic legacy of the trump administration . some people administration. some people lleme— administration. some people lleme lem— administration. some people blame ruth bader ginsburg for not blame ruth bader ginsburg for eel eeeleelee— blame ruth bader ginsburg for not resigning when she had an eeeeeleellw— not resigning when she had an eeeeeleellw le— not resigning when she had an opportunity to, in— not resigning when she had an opportunity to, in fact, and ellewlee— opportunity to, in fact, and allowing president obama to eeeleee— allowing president obama to eeeleee-lel— allowing president obama to replace-but that-
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allowing president obama to replace but that has replace her. but that has eeleellw— replace her. but that has actually backfired to an extent . leee-l— actually backfired to an extent . leee-l e,— actually backfired to an extent , hasn't it, because they've eweelemel— , hasn't it, because they've overturned roe— , hasn't it, because they've overturned roe v wade, which a lot overturned roe v wade, which a lel el— overturned roe v wade, which a lel el eeeele— overturned roe v wade, which a lot of people think— overturned roe v wade, which a lot of people think actually llel— lot of people think actually lleel ee— lot of people think actually lleel ee lle— lot of people think actually fired up the democratic base leelle— fired up the democratic base leeme lle— fired up the democratic base during the midterms and saw a mell— during the midterms and saw a meet lleeee— during the midterms and saw a much bigger turnout for the lemeeeele— much bigger turnout for the democrats there than might elleewlee — democrats there than might otherwise - been - democrats there than might otherwise been actuated. so otherwise have been actuated. so mewle— otherwise have been actuated. so mewle llle— otherwise have been actuated. so maybe this could— otherwise have been actuated. so maybe this could be another eleeleele— maybe this could be another strategic sort— maybe this could be another strategic sort of— maybe this could be another strategic sort of the law of unintended— strategic sort of the law of unintended consequences, if you like unintended consequences, if you llle . — unintended consequences, if you llle . eell— unintended consequences, if you like . well, you're— unintended consequences, if you like . well, you're very- unintended consequences, if you like. tiltitt 2ti; tli;: like. well, you're very astute. and i've taught politics in the media for 13 years here in university. and you'd be fine. you could come and speak to my class. you understand the class. you really understand the history it and how we get to history of it and how we get to this and ruth bader this point. and ruth bader ginsburg , in she decided ginsburg, in fact, she decided to stick on and we didn't get a appointee by by by president obama. and we had a problem. the democrats had a problem with that. and now we have what we have. so we have to deal with that. and 2022 was supposed to be a red wave and get get the republicans in there and they barely kept onto the house. as you know, and they don't have the senate. so it's going to be a raucous and a very, very, very
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difficult time for all involved . and but except for the political analysts and the and those who make the ads for the political ads for 2024. but in terms of affirmative- t tililtt 25 20:74 but in terms of affirmative action lleell— terms of affirmative action lleell .— terms of affirmative action lleell . ee— terms of affirmative action itself , one of— terms of affirmative action itself , one of the issues which itself, one of the issues which eeleel— itself, one of the issues which was raised repeatedly in the lemeele— was raised repeatedly in the demands that— was raised repeatedly in the demands that this be revisited llel— demands that this be revisited llel ll— demands that this be revisited was that it had— demands that this be revisited was that it had been biased eeeleel— was that it had been biased against asian— was that it had been biased against asian students, that is, lelee— against asian students, that is, asian american— against asian students, that is, asian american students, that llew— asian american students, that llew — asian american students, that llew lle— asian american students, that they were the ones that were mleelee— they were the ones that were mleelee eel. — they were the ones that were missing out. the— they were the ones that were missing out. the perception, eeeleee— missing out. the perception, perhapse llel— missing out. the perception, perhaps, that it's a black white leeee— perhaps, that it's a black white issue was was— perhaps, that it's a black white issue was was overly simplified eel— issue was was overly simplified eel le— issue was was overly simplified eel le leel.— issue was was overly simplified eel le leel. ll— issue was was overly simplified and in fact, it was— issue was was overly simplified and in fact, it was highly eeellllel— and in fact, it was highly eeellllel .— and in fact, it was highly qualified , highly educated, hard qualified, highly educated, hard weellee— qualified, highly educated, hard weellee lelee— qualified, highly educated, hard working asian students who were lelee— working asian students who were lelee leelel— working asian students who were being denied places. is that a lele— being denied places. is that a fair assessment— being denied places. is that a fair assessment ? 2“ t being denied places. is that a fair assessment? t2lit“ t fair assessment? i don't think so. i think i went to a free school . i went to the city school. i went to the city university, which is city college, and we had an equal amount of asian students and we had many black and hispanic latinos and latinas . and this is latinos and latinas. and this is quite a while ago . and we all quite a while ago. and we all felt that we were part of the system. and i think that's what
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we need to feel, that we are part of the system in this country and we're all treated equally now that is equally now that that is a particular issue that will be deau particular issue that will be dealt with. and the fact is that we'll see how this plays out. but i think to deny my young people who haven't had the chance in their own chance to in their own background and their own social social background to be advanced on to university, is a shame. and it's not what we're about here in america. but it wouldn't be here in america. but it wouldn't le leewlee— here in america. but it wouldn't le leewlee llem— here in america. but it wouldn't be denying them a— “i;2ti; “ ' i but it wouldn't be denying them a place at eelweeellw— be denying them a place at university, would it? t “tit2ti; university, would it? it's more wlellee— university, would it? it's more whether you get into the prestigious universities where the and yale the places like harvard and yale have discriminating against the places like harvard and yale have qualified inating against the places like harvard and yale have qualified studentsgainst the places like harvard and yale have qualified students .3inst the best qualified students. there are enough other universities for people of all abilities to go because it's abilities to go to because it's an profitable an extraordinarily profitable business to be in, isn't it? draining the college funds out of out of well—intentioned middle class parents? well, i think that some— middle class parents? well, i think that some schools- t2t2li; i 7 well, i think that some schools are leee.— think that some schools are leee. ll— think that some schools are leee. ll wee— think that some schools are free. if you are— think that some schools are free. if you are in a state, we— free. if you are in a state, weee lelllee— free. if you are in a state, your tuition is— free. if you are in a state, your tuition is much less. if you— your tuition is much less. if wee well— your tuition is much less. if wee weel le— your tuition is much less. if wee weel le 90— your tuition is much less. if you want to go to harvard or lele— you want to go to harvard or vele ee— you want to go to harvard or yale or princeton— you want to go to harvard or yale or princeton or stanford, lle— yale or princeton or stanford, ll-e eelle— yale or princeton or stanford, ll-e eeme le—
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yale or princeton or stanford, ll-e eeme le le— yale or princeton or stanford, it's going to be a— yale or princeton or stanford, it's going to be a lot more. now:— it's going to be a lot more. new. lle— it's going to be a lot more. now, the fact— it's going to be a lot more. now, the fact is— it's going to be a lot more. now, the fact is we have another lllel— now, the fact is we have another lllee eellel— now, the fact is we have another thing called the— now, the fact is we have another thing called the elite legacy . thing called the elite legacy. in thing called the elite legacy. le ellee— thing called the elite legacy. in other words,— thing called the elite legacy. in other words, if— thing called the elite legacy. in other words, if you have a a, a in other words, if you have a a, e leem— in other words, if you have a a, e leem ee— in other words, if you have a a, a dorm or a or a building or a or a dorm or a or a building or a ee e eeleel— a dorm or a or a building or a or a school named— a dorm or a or a building or a or a school named after you, you leeleellw— or a school named after you, you leeleellw ee— or a school named after you, you basically can get— or a school named after you, you basically can get in.— or a school named after you, you basically can get in. i mean, llel-e— basically can get in. i mean, llel-e lle— basically can get in. i mean, that's the real— basically can get in. i mean, that's the real problem. so that llel— that's the real problem. so that llel el— that's the real problem. so that kind of elitism _ that's the real problem. so that kind of elitism is— that's the real problem. so that kind of elitism is something llel— kind of elitism is something llel we— kind of elitism is something llel we lew— kind of elitism is something llel we lew le— kind of elitism is something that we try to go around and ellee— that we try to go around and ellee e— that we try to go around and ellee e lee— that we try to go around and elleee lee ee— that we try to go around and offer a leg up to— that we try to go around and offer a leg up to those students wle— offer a leg up to those students wle eeel— offer a leg up to those students wle eeel eee— offer a leg up to those students who need one. _ offer a leg up to those students who need one. can— offer a leg up to those students who need one. cit“ offer a leg up to those students who need one. can i just ask you and this will probably be to wrap up, would you expect, linda obe johnson and so on when they were drafting and passing this legislation and trumpeting the affirmative specifically? legislation and trumpeting the affirmathat specifically? legislation and trumpeting the affirmathat came specifically? legislation and trumpeting the affirmathat came apecifically? legislation and trumpeting the affirmathat came a couple lly? legislation and trumpeting the affirmathat came a couple of? i think that came a couple of weeee— i think that came a couple of weeee lelee. — i think that came a couple of years later. do— i think that came a couple of years later. do you think they weell— years later. do you think they weell leve— years later. do you think they would have thought that 50 years weell—enewe.- would have thought that 50 years would—enough, or- would have thought that 50 years would enough, or was would have been enough, or was llle— would have been enough, or was llle-le— would have been enough, or was llle-le le— would have been enough, or was this-to be forever- this intention to be forever llel— this intention to be forever llel lleel— this intention to be forever that black students should elwewe— that black students should elwewelelwee- that black students should always given preferential always be given preferential eeeleee— always be given preferential eeeleee ee— always be given preferential grades? or do— always be given preferential grades? or do you think it was leleelel— grades? or do you think it was leleelel le— grades? or do you think it was intended to sort— grades? or do you think it was intended to sort of smooth the leeeelllee — intended to sort of smooth the transition into _ intended to sort of smooth the transition into a— intended to sort of smooth the transition into a into a new lelell— transition into a into a new bright eew— transition into a into a new bright, new brave new world? leel. — bright, new brave new world? veel. eell— bright, new brave new world? leel. elell l— bright, new brave new world? yeah. well, i lived- bright, new brave new world? yeah. tiltitt t li;t2 g yeah. well, i lived through the that era. i lived through the vietnam i through the
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vietnam era. i lived through the civil era. and it was civil rights era. and it was very contentious. it was difficult. and i think lbj had the forethought not to in the forethought not to think in advance . remember, many advance of that. remember, many of things kennedy tried of the things that kennedy tried to through lbj because he to put through lbj because he had such savvy in congress actually could get them through. and considered quite and he's considered quite a hero because vietnam that because the vietnam war that took him down. but we still consider him a domestically a very fine president. thank you so much , very fine president. thank you ee meel . lele— very fine president. thank you so much , john. an— tli;”«t �*7 2 thank you so much , john. an absolute so much, john. an absolute eleeeeee— so much, john. an absolute. eleeeeee—l-ll pleasure speaking to you. i'll be pleasure speaking to you. i'll le-eleel— pleasure speaking to you. i'll be-about that- pleasure speaking to you. i'll be about that position. be in touch about that position. ellee— be in touch about that position. ellee-le— be in touch about that position. ellee-le lele— be in touch about that position. offer-is lots more- be in touch about that position. offer is lots more to come offer their is lots more to come lelweee— offer their is lots more to come lelweee-eel— offer their is lots more to come between-and 9:00,- offer their is lots more to come between and 9:00, including between now and 9:00, including eeeellwe— between now and 9:00, including exeleelwe—lle- between now and 9:00, including exclusive _the world| exclusive footage from the world lllle — exclusive footage from the world wife championships and wife carrying championships and lots wife carrying championships and lele-leellee— wife carrying championships and lele-leellee .— wife carrying championships and lots-besides . see- wife carrying championships and lots besides . see you lots more besides. see you in a eeeele— lots more besides. see you in a eeeele el— lots more besides. see you in a couple of minutes—
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welcome back. there's plenty ellll— welcome back. there's plenty more still to— welcome back. there's plenty more still to come on free seeeel— more still to come on free speech nation— more still to come on free speech nation this week. but lleel— speech nation this week. but lleel. lel-e— speech nation this week. but first, let's get— speech nation this week. but first, let's get a— speech nation this week. but first, let's get a news update leem— first, let's get a news update from rhiannon— first, let's get a news update from rhiannon jones. has . simon.
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from rhiannon jones. has. simon. lleel— from rhiannon jones. has. simon. lleel wee.— from rhiannon jones. has. simon. lleel wee. eeel— from rhiannon jones. has. simon. thank you. good evening- from rhiannon jones. has. simon. thank you. good evening .- from rhiannon jones. has. simon. thank you. good evening. your top stories from the gb news room. the grandmother of a boy killed by police in paris during a traffic stop is urging protesters to end the riots as the french government is holding crisis talks this evening to address the civil unrest after a fifth night of violence. neil marzouk's grandmother says rioters are using his death as an excuse to cause havoc. the family has called for calm. the city's regional president says she's confident order will be restored . lord what's happening restored. lord what's happening is restored. lord what's happening le ellee— restored. lord what's happening is ultra violence— restored. lord what's happening is ultra violence by— 2ti;t2 lord what's happening is ultra violence by small eeeeee— is ultra violence by small eeeeee el— is ultra violence by small groups of people that are very well— groups of people that are very well organised— groups of people that are very well organised and very well leemel— well organised and very well leeleel eel— well organised and very well trained and they— well organised and very well trained and they want to defy the trained and they want to defy lle eeeellle— trained and they want to defy the republic and— trained and they want to defy the republic and the republic wlll— the republic and the republic wlll eel— the republic and the republic will not yield— the republic and the republic will not yield and we will fight leel— will not yield and we will fight leel . — will not yield and we will fight leel . lle— will not yield and we will fight back. the regional- will not yield and we will fight back. ting jt�*t�*2ti;5 t2lit“t will not yield and we will fight back . $13 t2lit“t back. the regional president has also met a mayor whose home was ram raided and set alight in a parisian suburb last night. his
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wife and one of his children were hurt. prosecutors say an attempted murder investigation has now been opened . french has now been opened. french journalist antonin andre says it's put yet more pressure on president emmanuel macron . his president emmanuel macron. his family were are were t2lit“t i“ his family were are were attacked in in family were are were attacked in le lle— family were are were attacked in le lle leeee— family were are were attacked in in his house during the night eel— in his house during the night eel lle— in his house during the night and his wife— in his house during the night and his wife and— in his house during the night and his wife and his two elllleee— and his wife and his two children are— and his wife and his two children are two left. the house in children are two left. the house le emeeeeeew— children are two left. the house in emergency because there was fire in emergency because there was llee le— in emergency because there was llee le lle— in emergency because there was fire in the house.— in emergency because there was fire in the house. and this is wlel— fire in the house. and this is wlel le— fire in the house. and this is wlel le wew— fire in the house. and this is what is very shocking thing this memlee. — what is very shocking thing this memlee. lel— what is very shocking thing this morning. and every day, every tlweee— morning. and every day, every tlweee le— morning. and every day, every myers in france— morning. and every day, every myers in france wants that. the elele— myers in france wants that. the elele eel— myers in france wants that. the state and emmanuel macron take lele— state and emmanuel macron take lele meee— state and emmanuel macron take take more, more, more measures to take more, more, more measures le elee— take more, more, more measures le elee lle— take more, more, more measures le elee lle eleee— take more, more, more measures to stop the chaos . _ take more, more, more measures to stop the chaos . to stop the chaos. two people have been killed in a mass shooting in the us state of maryland. police say up to 30 people suffered gunshot wounds. three are critical. the attack happenedin three are critical. the attack happened in the city of baltimore , where people had baltimore, where people had gathered for an event called brooklyn day. the suspect or
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suspects are reportedly still at large. the us president will meet king charles and the prime minister when he visits the uk next week. buckingham palace has confirmed joe biden will visit windsor castle on the 10th of july. the white house says he's travelling to london to strengthen the close relationship between the nations. he'll then head to lithuania for the nato summit before heading on to finland and new measures to deal with disruptive demonstrations have come into force. they include expanded police powers to move on static or slow walking protests like those used by just stop oil a criminal offence to tackle disruption in tunnels has also been introduced, carrying jail terms of up to three years. critic say the laws threaten the right to protest and rail passengers are facing yet more disruption over the next week. aslef members at 16 train companies in england will refuse
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to work overtime , which to work overtime, which operators rely on to run their full time table. the union says it's calling for fair pay, but the rail delivery group says aslef reject its last offer of a £5,000 raise, which would bring the basic salary for drivers working a four day week to nearly £65,000. service fees will be affected from monday through to saturday. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to simon with free speech nation . simon with free speech nation. welcome back to free speech nation. thank you. rihanna and lel-e— nation. thank you. rihanna and lel-e eel— nation. thank you. rihanna and lel-e eel eeme— nation. thank you. rihanna and let's get some more— t thank you. rihanna and let's get some more questions leem— let's get some more questions leem lle— let's get some more questions from the audience. our first eeeellee— from the audience. our first question comes— from the audience. our first question comes from veronica . question comes from veronica. why— question comes from veronica. elw eee— question comes from veronica. elw lle— question comes from veronica. why are the french— question comes from veronica. why are the french still- why are the french still rioting? it's been five days is how many days of rioting would
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you have felt was appropriate? just as a matter of interest, lellelle— just as a matter of interest, infinite and— just as a matter of interest, infinite and infinite number. i llel— infinite and infinite number. i llel le— infinite and infinite number. i mean, that is the— infinite and infinite number. i mean, that is the traditional leeeel— mean, that is the traditional french approach, isn't it? why are french approach, isn't it? why lle— french approach, isn't it? why are the french— french approach, isn't it? why are the french still rioting? lle— are the french still rioting? the grandmother of the french leeeeeee— the grandmother of the french leeeeeee wle— the grandmother of the french teenager who was by police teenager who was shot by police leelee— teenager who was shot by police leeleelleellle— teenager who was shot by police duringltraffic stop— teenager who was shot by police during traffic stop has called during a traffic stop has called for during a traffic stop has called lee-le— during a traffic stop has called lee-le eee— during a traffic stop has called for to cease. clearly, she for riots to cease. clearly, she is for riots to cease. clearly, she le eel— for riots to cease. clearly, she le eel lelee— for riots to cease. clearly, she is not being regarded as an eelleellw— is not being regarded as an eelleellw le— is not being regarded as an authority in the— is not being regarded as an authority in the matter. some llee— authority in the matter. some 2500 eeeele— authority in the matter. some 2500 people been arrested 2500 people have been arrested elee— 2500 people have been arrested leeelew. — 2500 people have been arrested since tuesday. last— 2500 people have been arrested since tuesday. last night, more llee— since tuesday. last night, more llee lelee— since tuesday. last night, more than 45,000 police officers were out than 45,000 police officers were eel ee— than 45,000 police officers were eel ee lle— than 45,000 police officers were out on the streets— than 45,000 police officers were out on the streets attempting to ease tensions— out on the streets attempting to ease tensions .— out on the streets attempting to ease tensions . jones no idea how ease tensions. jones no idea how well— ease tensions. jones no idea how well llel-e— ease tensions. jones no idea how well that's gone.— ease tensions. jones no idea how well that's gone. i— ease tensions. jones no idea how well that's gone. i mean, what is well that's gone. i mean, what le weee— well that's gone. i mean, what le weee wew— well that's gone. i mean, what is your view on— well that's gone. i mean, what is your view on this, steve well— is your view on this, steve well l— is your view on this, steve well l l— is your view on this, steve well, i, i think— is your view on this, steve well, i, i think the actual spa meellee— well, i, i think the actual spa marking moment, the catalyst to it marking moment, the catalyst to ll le— marking moment, the catalyst to ll le meew— marking moment, the catalyst to it is many questions. titty 2 it is many questions. why does someone get shot during a traffic stop? they should never happen unless someone's driving the car at you, which we have the car at you, which we have the video to say that that wasn't happening. that can that's needs to that's one issue that needs to be but clearly there be sorted. but clearly there is other that are now other pressures that are now starting to to the surface. starting to come to the surface. but really judge. but we can't really judge. it's really easy judge because really easy to judge because i know france and they know this is france and they protest all the time. and you
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say, well, we say that because of the english of course there is the english engush of course there is the english english against the english prejudice against the french. but actually we're lelllee— french. but actually we'rei talking _african talking about north african communities— communities within the france. i communities within the france. l we— communities within the france. l wee-le— communities within the france. twee-lo eemeee- communities within the france. i was-to compare it- communities within the france. i was _to compare it to- communities within the france. i was-to compare it to the| i was going to compare it to the 2011. it's not as if we don't have the same thing that's happened where incident happened where some incident causes that causes riots and looting that goes least a few days. goes on for at least a few days. so it's we can't really let's go back judging for being back to judging them for being french, but french, obviously, but technically we had technically we can't. we had about of rioting in about two days of rioting in 2011, i think, and whether it's just because we don't have tear gas, adds something gas, i think that adds something doesn't the. yeah, i know doesn't it to the. yeah, i know llel— doesn't it to the. yeah, i know llel-llle— doesn't it to the. yeah, i know llel-llle lm- doesn't it to the. yeah, i know that-like i'm being- that sounds like i'm being elllw— that sounds like i'm being elllwlll— that sounds like i'm being silly,-it does- that sounds like i'm being silly, it does look more silly, but it does look more leemelle— silly, but it does look more dramatic-these. silly, but it does look more dramatic. these things dramatic. and all these things on dramatic. and all these things ee-ll— dramatic. and all these things ee-ll weel— dramatic. and all these things on-it wasn't it— dramatic. and all these things on it wasn't it wasn't on fire. it wasn't it wasn't llle— on fire. it wasn't it wasn't llle llel— on fire. it wasn't it wasn't like that was— on fire. it wasn't it wasn't like that was here it was like that was it here it was meel. — like that was it here it was meel. all— like that was it here it was much. and we've- like that was it here it was much. “2 2. much. and we've only quite recently mean, recently emerged. i mean, there's lot of rioting as there's been a lot of rioting as we're saying in france, the most recently, think they recently, i think they were rioting the proposals rioting over the proposals to raise retirement at raise the age of retirement at the pension from 62 to 64. the state pension from 62 to 64. so i they are like they're so i mean, they are like they're they're kindling, aren't they? they are. they're dry. it they are. they're very dry. it only takes a small spark. do only takes a small spark. i do wonder mean, wonder whether we i mean, i don't whether we can don't know whether we can project our own situation onto france. like
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france. it feels like it is quite in several ways. quite different in several ways. they have long time, like they have for a long time, like tried to oppress and suppress rather many of rather than assimilate many of these communities. do these communities. i mean, do you sort of prospect for you see any sort of prospect for that being resolved? because the france at threat france is constantly at threat of lurching the far of suddenly lurching to the far right ? marine le has right? marine le pen has obviously made a lot of progress since took over from her since she took over from her father. yeah, i mean, if the eeeellee— father. yeah, i mean, if the eeeellee le— father. yeah, i mean, if the question is, do— father. yeah, i mean, if the question is, do i— yeah, i mean, if the question is, do i see any hope of question is, do i see any hope el ll— question is, do i see any hope el ll lelee— question is, do i see any hope of it being resolved in relatively— of it being resolved in relatively short order, no, no. so relatively short order, no, no. sellllel— relatively short order, no, no. sellllel-eeeew- relatively short order, no, no. soithink-carry on- relatively short order, no, no. so think carry on like so i think it will carry on like llle— so i think it will carry on like llle lee— so i think it will carry on like llle lee e— so i think it will carry on like this for a while. _ so i think it will carry on like. this for a while. _the this for a while. eventually the elele— this for a while. eventually the elele wlll— this for a while. eventually the riots will-but— this for a while. eventually the riots will-but the - riots will stop, but the eeleelwlee — riots will stop, but the underlying problem will still be lleee. — underlying problem will still be lleee. eell— underlying problem will still be there. well, well,— underlying problem will still be there. well, well,-we- underlying problem will still be there. tiltitt kelli; it there. well, well, well. we will watch interest and barely watch with interest and barely concealed delight. next concealed delight. our next question laura, is question is from laura, who is laura? where there's laura? where is laura? there's laura. the best laura. hello > is pride the best place— laura. hello > is pride the best eleeeleeeleel— laura. hello > is pride the best place-protest against- > is pride the best place protest against oil ? place to protest against oil? eh.— place to protest against oil? ol. leew— place to protest against oil? ol. leew eeel— place to protest against oil? oh, very good question.- place to protest against oil? oh, very good question. is pride the right place to protest against oil? just stop. oil stormed london's pride parade. london pride . a great beer, of london pride. a great beer, of course. but now that has been usurped by this trendy programme after issuing threats to the lgbtq+ event earlier this week,
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five activists have been charged with behaviour likely to cause harassment alarm or distress. two others were released on bail pending further inquiries. the group sat down in front of a coca—cola float, branding it the world's worst plastic polluter, accused of numerous human rights abuses. accused of numerous human rights abuses . personally, i will say abuses. personally, i will say on the one hand, of course, you would like to see two lefties fighting. so that's great. but also perhaps more seriously, coca cola is one of those examples of woke capitalism which has attempted to clamber on to the pride parade. that whole momentum they have and get what is arguably some ill earned credibility because they are in fact a massive worldwide conglomerate who will not support pride in countries where it isn't already . you know the it isn't already. you know the upward trend like goldman sachs, like all the oil companies. it's such a cheap and easy way to gain a little bit of favorability with the kids, isn't it? actually gains them llel— isn't it? actually gains them llel mell— t 7 actually gains them that much favorability. if you well— that much favorability. if you well lele— that much favorability. if you walk intolpub_ that much favorability. if you walk into pub and you say, can walk into a pub and you say, can i walk into a pub and you say, can t leve—
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walk into a pub and you say, can t levelcelee— walk into a pub and you say, can i havelcoke? and— walk into a pub and you say, can i have coke? and they go, it's i have a coke? and they go, it's leeel. — i have a coke? and they go, it's leeel. -elell.— i have a coke? and they go, it's pepsi. _right. you- i have a coke? and they go, it's pepsi. right. you go, no, pepsi. you're right. you go, no, leeeeee— pepsi. you're right. you go, no, leeeeeellle— pepsi. you're right. you go, no, because-the gay— pepsi. you're right. you go, no,i because .the gay _yes, because of the gay pride. yes, yes.— because of the gay pride. yes, we we — because of the gay pride. yes, we we l— because of the gay pride. t/ti;5 «tilt? «tilt? iunderstand because of the gay pride. t/ti;5 «tilt? «tilt? i understand that. but yes, yes. i understand that. but on yes, yes. i understand that. but ee lle— yes, yes. i understand that. but ee lle ellee— yes, yes. i understand that. but on the other hand,— «tilt? «tilt? i understand that. but on the other hand, they are elwleeelw— on the other hand, they are obviously, you— on the other hand, they are obviously, you know, putting out llew— obviously, you know, putting out llew ee— obviously, you know, putting out they are attempting what they are attempting to what weell— they are attempting to what weell-ll.- they are attempting to what would-it, pride. they are attempting to what would it, pride wash would they call it, pride wash llel—llew- would they call it, pride wash their—they calll would they call it, pride washi their—they call it their brand. yeah. they call it pink or something, which is pink wash or something, which is probably something did to probably just something i did to my university and never my pants at university and never let i had a friend let down. yeah, i had a friend llel— let down. yeah, i had a friend llel eeel— let down. yeah, i had a friend llel eeel le— let down. yeah, i had a friend that used to sell— 2 yeah, i had a friend that used to sell coke products to that used to sell coke products le eele— that used to sell coke products le eele eel— that used to sell coke products le eele eel le— that used to sell coke products to pubs and he said biggest to pubs and he said the biggest eeellem—le- to pubs and he said the biggest eeellem —le wee- to pubs and he said the biggest problem do you go to problem was where do you go to eell— problem was where do you go to eell eelee — problem was where do you go to sell coke? tli;”«t 2 problem was where do you go to sell coke? 2 git problem was where do you go to sell coke? tli;”«t 2 git t sell coke? everybody's got it already. so, yeah, already. yeah. so, yeah, it's the place to protest, the perfect place to protest, isn't got isn't it? because you've got a big audience. you're not stopping from getting to stopping anybody from getting to work. idea. and to work. yeah, great idea. and to be honest, i work. yeah, great idea. and to be_honest, i think,| be absolutely honest, i think, you— be absolutely honest, i think, wee-ee— be absolutely honest, i think, you as our previous guest you know, as our previous guest eell— you know, as our previous guest eele-eeelw— you know, as our previous guest eele-eeelw wel- you know, as our previous guest said,-ready yet to- said, we're not ready yet to mele— said, we're not ready yet to make-transition- said, we're not ready yet to make transition to electric make this transition to electric eel— make this transition to electric eel-lle— make this transition to electric cars and .the rest- make this transition to electric cars and the rest of it. cars and all the rest of it. a lel— cars and all the rest of it. a lel el— cars and all the rest of it. a lel el eeeele— cars and all the rest of it. a lot of people -to - cars and all the rest of it. a lot of people to use lot of people have to use wellelee— lot of people have to use vehicles to— lot of people have to use vehicles to get- lot of people have to use vehicles to get to work and eelllel— vehicles to get to work and eelllee le— vehicles to get to work and eelllee le lle— vehicles to get to work and getting in the way of those can be getting in the way of those can le wew— getting in the way of those can le wew annoying-— getting in the way of those can be very annoying. whereas eleeelee— stopping stopping a pride eemlwel— stopping stopping a pride carnival-is- stopping stopping a pride carnival is moving at five carnival which is moving at five mllee— carnival which is moving at five mllee-leee— carnival which is moving at five miles-hour-is- carnival which is moving at five miles hour is purely miles per hour and is a purely leew— miles per hour and is a purely. know—phenomenon know demonstrative phenomenon eewwew— know demonstrative phenomenoni eewwew. —eee anyway. yeah, go ahead. and are llew— anyway. yeah, go ahead. and are llew-lee— anyway. yeah, go ahead. and are llew-lee ll— anyway. yeah, go ahead. and are they for 16 minutes it they there? for 16 minutes it was seven people who stopped it for 16 minutes. yeah. it's not the new thing,
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the biggest. the new thing, lee-l— the biggest. the new thing, leel-lle— the biggest. the new thing, isn't-the police- the biggest. the new thing, isn't-the police want- 33 the new thing, isn't the police want you to isn't it? the police want you to leew— isn't it? the police want you to leew exeellw— isn't it? the police want you to know exactly how— isn't it? the police want you to know exactly how many seconds llew— know exactly how many seconds llew-lle— know exactly how many seconds they the protesters. they stopped the protesters. leel.— they stopped the protesters. yeah,.minutes. - they stopped the protesters. yeah, minutes. time. yeah, 16 minutes. this time. leel.— yeah, 16 minutes. this time. leee-eew- yeah, 16 minutes. this time. i yeah.-new legislation yeah. anyway, new legislation .leeelellw— yeah. anyway, new legislation now. - hopefully the - t/titit“ anyway, new legislation now. hopefully the power now. and hopefully the power leeeee— now. and hopefully the power houses-coming- now. and hopefully the power houses coming out houses will be coming out eleellw. — houses will be coming out shortly. question shortly. our next question is leem— shortly. our next question is from-there's- shortly. our next question is. from _there's-has from peter. there's peter. has lellwweel— from peter. there's peter. has hollywood-less- hollywood become less interesting? oh, now this is off the interesting? oh, now this is off lle leel— interesting? oh, now this is off lle leel el— interesting? oh, now this is off the back of dame— interesting? oh, now this is off the back of dame joan- li;2t“i;5t ’“tg7’ oh, now this is off the back of dame joan collins lweeelw— the back of dame joan collins lweeelw-ael— the back of dame joan collins dynasty-and prior- the back of dame joan collins dynasty and prior to that, dynasty star. and prior to that, weeleee—lle- dynasty star. and prior to that, various _the 70s, various soft movies in the 70s, leme— various soft movies in the 70s, leme leee— various soft movies in the 70s, dame joan collins— various soft movies in the 70s, dame joan collins , um, many of dame joan collins, um, many of mem.— dame joan collins, um, many of mem. el— dame joan collins, um, many of them, of course,— dame joan collins, um, many of them, of course, authored by her elelee— them, of course, authored by her elelee leelle. — them, of course, authored by her sisterjackie. they— them, of course, authored by her sister jackie. they were the eewee— sister jackie. they were the eewee lee — sister jackie. they were the eewee lee el— sister jackie. they were the power duo of my childhood and she power duo of my childhood and ele lee— power duo of my childhood and ele lee eelewel— power duo of my childhood and she has enjoyed more than seven leeelee— she has enjoyed more than seven leeelee le— she has enjoyed more than seven decades in the— she has enjoyed more than seven decades in the spotlight and leleel— decades in the spotlight and leleel le— decades in the spotlight and indeed in the— decades in the spotlight and indeed in the satin sheets. she eewe— indeed in the satin sheets. she eewe lle— indeed in the satin sheets. she eewe lle leee— indeed in the satin sheets. she says the fear of— indeed in the satin sheets. she says the fear of cancel culture is says the fear of cancel culture le lellee— says the fear of cancel culture le lellee ell— says the fear of cancel culture is taking all the— says the fear of cancel culture is taking all the fun out of lellwweel— is taking all the fun out of hollywood. she's talking more eleel— hollywood. she's talking more eleel lle— hollywood. she's talking more about the parties— hollywood. she's talking more about the parties rather than the about the parties rather than lle eeleel— about the parties rather than the actual films— about the parties rather than the actual films that more than the actual films that more than lle-.— the actual films that more than lle-. ele— the actual films that more than lle-. sle eewe- the actual films that more than the-. she says that- the content. she says that eewelewe— the content. she says that nowadays carpet the content. she says that- nowadays-carpet events nowadays the red carpet events are nowadays the red carpet events wew— nowadays the red carpet events are very-managed- nowadays the red carpet events are very managed and that are very stage managed and that you are very stage managed and that wee lee-l— are very stage managed and that wee leel-lle— are very stage managed and that you don't-the same- are very stage managed and that you don't the same sort of you don't get the same sort of leellee— you don't get the same sort of leemel-eel- you don't get the same sort of drunken-and.on.| drunken behaviour and so on. llee— drunken behaviour and so on. llee-ellee— drunken behaviour and so on. then-other hand,- drunken behaviour and so on. then other hand, there's then on the other hand, there's eelw— then on the other hand, there's eelw e— then on the other hand, there's eelw e eeeele— then on the other hand, there's only a couple of— then on the other hand, there's only a couple of years ago there ee eeleel— only a couple of years ago there was an actual fistfight on the only a couple of years ago there wa the actual fistfight on the only a couple of years ago there wa the stage l fistfight on the only a couple of years ago there wa the stage at stfight on the only a couple of years ago there wa the stage at thejht on the only a couple of years ago there wa the stage at the oscars, 1e on the stage at the oscars, weel— on the stage at the oscars, wasn't there? _ on the stage at the oscars, wasn't there? 2“ t on the stage at the oscars, wasn't there? t2lit“ t wasn't there? so i don't know. i wasn't there? so i don't know. llllel— wasn't there? so i don't know. llllel lle— wasn't there? so i don't know. llllel ll-e e— wasn't there? so i don't know. i think it's a bit— wasn't there? so i don't know. i think it's a bit harsh.- wasn't there? 2“ t i think it's a bit harsh. but eewwew— i think it's a bit harsh. but anywave wlel— i think it's a bit harsh. but anyway, what do think?
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anyway, what do you think? ceeeelle — anyway, what do you think? cressida well,— anyway, what do you think? cressida well, it's— anyway, what do you think? cressida well, it's got- anyway, what do you think? cressida well, it's got to be true, hasn't it? i mean, i weel— true, hasn't it? i mean, i wasn't there _ true, hasn't it? i mean, i wasn't there and- t t7’ i mean, i wasn't there and i'm not as lemlllee— wasn't there and i'm not as familiar with— wasn't there and i'm not as familiar with her back catalogue as familiar with her back catalogue ee-slmee— familiar with her back catalogue ee-slmee lel- familiar with her back catalogue as-simon but but- familiar with her back catalogue as simon but but it's as you are. simon but but it's lle— as you are. simon but but it's lle elel— as you are. simon but but it's the stud that's— as you are. simon but but it's the stud that's the one you want to the stud that's the one you want le welel. — the stud that's the one you want to watch. olin that's the stud that's the one you want to watch. that's my sunday to watch. okay. that's my sunday eweelee— to watch. okay. that's my sunday elelee-leel.— to watch. okay. that's my sunday evening-yeah.lmean,- evening sorted. yeah. i mean, eeeelw— evening sorted. yeah. i mean, eeelw—le- evening sorted. yeah. i mean, surely—is getting. surely everything is getting meee—lle- surely everything is gettingi more—it? isn't more sensible, isn't it? isn't it more sensible, isn't it? isn't ll-llel— more sensible, isn't it? isn't ll-llel weeel- more sensible, isn't it? isn't it that young people it the case that young people lee-l— it the case that young people tell eee— it the case that young people don't even drink— it the case that young people don't even drink anymore? yeah eel— don't even drink anymore? yeah eel llew— don't even drink anymore? yeah and they certainly— don't even drink anymore? yeah and they certainly don't have eel—llel- and they certainly don't have eel—llel le- and they certainly don't have sex—that is a- and they certainly don't have. sex—that is a fact. sex anymore. that is a fact. leel. — sex anymore. that is a fact. yeah. just to the yeah. so just to give the counterbalance that she counterbalance that maybe she perceived is that there's less raucous happening at the raucous fun happening at the party 90 and party because she's now 90 and people trying to get people are not trying to get click her. absolutely yeah click with her. absolutely yeah llme — click with her. absolutely yeah llme llme— click with her. absolutely yeah time time for— click with her. absolutely yeah time time for your— click with her. absolutely yeah time time for your bed- i. til absolutely yeah time time for your bed bath i. ti.l absolutely yeah time time for your bed bath ms celllee— time time for your bed bath ms celllee-well— time time for your bed bath ms collins-well ,_ time time for your bed bath ms collins-well , it's- time time for your bed bath ms collins-well , it's a- time time for your bed bath ms collins well , it's a good collins yeah well, it's a good eeeellee— collins yeah well, it's a good eeeellee. — collins yeah well, it's a good eeeellee. l— collins yeah well, it's a good question. i mean,- collins yeah well, it's a good question. i mean, it- collins yeah well, it's a good question. t question. i mean, it is all a question. i mean, it is all a question of perception, isn't it? i think we all learn from the johnny depp trial that there was a lot of bad was still quite a lot of bad behaviour on the behaviour going on behind the scenes, but there is increasingly an attempt to just smooth think see smooth it over. i think you see the thing with football the same thing with football stars. sure they behave stars. i'm sure they all behave quite but they've just quite badly, but they've just got bigger pr teams now, which actually don't want actually i prefer. i don't want to actually i prefer. i don't want le—wle— actually i prefer. i don't want to_who already. to see people who already lleeeel— to see people who already blessed with— to see people who already blessed with having a great
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career, loads— blessed with having a great career, loads money career, loads of money and having—in- career, loads of money and having—in that| having fun. no rein in that fun. at having fun. no rein in that fun. al leeel— having fun. no rein in that fun. al leeel leve— having fun. no rein in that fun. at least have some misery. leeeele— at least have some misery. depends,_that'si at least have some misery. i depends,_that's why depends, doesn't it? that's why you a star, surely? you become a movie star, surely? absolutely the main perk. absolutely not. the main perk. i absolutely not. the main perk. twee— absolutely not. the main perk. twee e— absolutely not. the main perk. twee e tewetw— absolutely not. the main perk. i was a lovely interview- absolutely not. the main perk. i was a lovely interview with peter one of late peter o'toole on one of the late night. i think it was. it was letterman, about 20 minutes, like series of anecdotes about getting richard getting drunk with richard harris reed and so harris and oliver reed and so on. you think these people, on. and you think these people, you hell you know, the proper hell raisers, knew to it raisers, they knew how to do it because, of course, they the thing is they love thing about drunks is they love the their own voice. the sound of their own voice. but their case, everyone else but in their case, everyone else loved their voices loved the sound of their voices as well. so obviously encouraged. now a days, most actors literally actors are in fact literally doing most of their acting in front green screen. i mean, front of green screen. i mean, it really what we it isn't really what we understand acting anymore. understand as acting anymore. so understandably, don't understandably, they don't really in really know to how carry on in the pub. yeah, well, and also, wee-ee— the pub. yeah, well, and also, weeee righte— the pub. yeah, well, and also, you're right, they— yeah, well, and also, you're right, they won't have lle— you're right, they won't have lle-eelllee- you're right, they won't have the getting drunk with the drunks getting drunk with leelle— the drunks getting drunk with leele-eh.- the drunks getting drunk with drunks. oh, brewed drunks. it'll be. oh, i brewed lelle— drunks. it'll be. oh, i brewed some kefir gwyneth paltrow some kefir with gwyneth paltrow . -eeeellee— some kefir with gwyneth paltrow . -eeeellee le- some kefir with gwyneth paltrow . _question is from - . our next question is from mark. where mark? there's mark. where is mark? there's mark. hi. how long you get mark. hi. how long can you get ewew— mark. hi. how long can you get ewew wlll— mark. hi. how long can you get ewew wlll eel— hi. how long can you get away with not showing up to weell— away with not showing up to weell — away with not showing up to weell lew— away with not showing up to work? how long- away with not showing up to work? it“tg i“ away with not showing up to work? ti“g i“ away with not showing up to work? tiit'3l: git away with not showing up to- work? how long can you get away with not showing to work? with not showing up to work? this of course, the italian
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this is, of course, the italian teacher going to teacher who avoided not going to work, didn't avoid not work, but she didn't avoid not going negative. going to the double negative. she to work for 20 she avoided going to work for 20 years using holiday sick leave and permits and a beautifully tessellated with permits to tessellated form with permits to attend conferences . as she is attend conferences. as she is now known as italy's worst state employee, the teacher , 56 years employee, the teacher, 56 years old, she has basically reached in retirement age anyway. she was employed by a school i say employed near venice to teach literature and philosophy . what literature and philosophy. what else? of course, but only showed up for four out of the 24 years she worked there. i imagine she had access to some derrida and foucault to demonstrate that she had in fact been teaching in a meaningful sense throughout that time anyway , after being caught time anyway, after being caught by the school's inspector , she by the school's inspector, she was last month. i mean, was sacked last month. i mean, that's absolutely heroic . that's absolutely heroic. absolutely. absolutely. that's absolutely heroic. absolutely. absolutely . you have absolutely. absolutely. you have to just stand back and applaud . to just stand back and applaud. but but i suppose she is symbolic. we all will feel of a lot of there is a general trend at the moment that people are avoiding work, going avoiding work, not going in enough. certainly is . and
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enough. there certainly is. and meee— enough. there certainly is. and lleee ee— enough. there certainly is. and there are these— tiq there certainly is. and there are these claims, aren't meee.— there are these claims, aren't lleee. lw— there are these claims, aren't there, by local— there are these claims, aren't there, by local authority that there, by local authority that lle-lle— there, by local authority that the _the - hasn'ti the work, the output hasn't leeeeel— the work, the output hasn't leeeeel el— the work, the output hasn't dropped at since covid, dropped at all since covid, wllcl— dropped at all since covid, which almost— dropped at all since covid, which almost implies they weeel— which almost implies they weren't-work. which almost implies they weren't-work to| which almost implies they- weren't-work to start weren't doing any work to start wlll. — weren't doing any work to start with. absolutely. i- weren't doing any work to start with. ' tti;t«t i think it's with. absolutely. ithink it's leleeeellee— with. absolutely. ithink it's interesting. i— with. absolutely. ithink it's interesting. i do— with. ' tti;t«t i think it's interesting. i do kind of think lell— interesting. i do kind of think lellltel— interesting. i do kind of think lellllel el— interesting. i do kind of think dodillot of civil— interesting. i do kind of think dodi lot of civil servants dodi a lot of civil servants can weel— dodi a lot of civil servants can eeel—le— dodi a lot of civil servants can eeel—le ee- dodi a lot of civil servants can work—to an extent,| work from home to an extent, leeeellee— work from home to an extent, depending-what- work from home to an extent, depending what kind work depending on what kind of work wee— depending on what kind of work you're—teachers. you're doing. i think teachers do you're doing. i think teachers le eeleeltw— you're doing. i think teachers do actually-to- you're doing. i think teachers do actually-to be- you're doing. i think teachers do actually to be present do actually need to be present eeeeeeettw— do actually need to be present eeeeeeellw. wee— do actually need to be present personally, you see. “tit?“ do actually need to be present personally, you see. / personally, you see. yeah, you lee-l— personally, you see. yeah, you don't want have to send all don't want to have to send all the kids round to their house. no, that seems, you no, because that seems, you know, had, of know, more carbon. we had, of course, i know, more carbon. we had, of t leve— know, more carbon. we had, of course, i have two— know, more carbon. we had, of course, i have two kids,- “tit2ti; i“ we had, of course, i have two kids, both of wlem — course, i have two kids, both of wlem lll— course, i have two kids, both of whom did homeschooling during the whom did homeschooling during lle—eeme- whom did homeschooling during lle—eeme eel- the covid thing. it came and well— the covid thing. it came and weel e— the covid thing. it came and went a little— the covid thing. it came and went a little bit— the covid thing. it came and went a little bit and i think llelee— went a little bit and i think llelee wee— went a little bit and i think theirs was a— went a little bit and i think theirs was a reasonably good ecleel —le- school. but even so, it is extraordinarily- school. but even so, it is extraordinarily inefficient, not leel— extraordinarily inefficient, not leel leeeee— extraordinarily inefficient, not just because cause the is just because cause the kid is eeleeleel— just because cause the kid is reluctant, _they're - reluctant, it feels they're in hope — reluctant, it feels they're in leee-lleee-e- reluctant, it feels they're in hope, there's there's hope, but there's a there's a ceelele— hope, but there's a there's a eeelele llel— hope, but there's a there's a certain kind psychological certain kind of psychological etemeel— certain kind of psychological etemeel-le- certain kind of psychological element-in a- certain kind of psychological element in a room full element to being in a room full of element to being in a room full el eeeete— element to being in a room full el peoplet ee— element to being in a room full el peoplet ee wee— element to being in a room full of people, as you all are now. an of people, as you all are now. ele-ell— of people, as you all are now. an-all focussed- of people, as you all are now. an-all focussed on. of people, as you all are now. an all focussed on a an audience all focussed on a eleete— an audience all focussed on a elele-.— an audience all focussed on a eleete-. tl— an audience all focussed on a single-. if you're- an audience all focussed on a single . if you're sitting single person. if you're sitting eell— single person. if you're sitting eee—wle- single person. if you're sitting eee—wle eeei single person. if you're sitting. next—who are all next to other people who are all leceeeel— next to other people who are all leceeeel ee— next to other people who are all focussed on it,— next to other people who are all focussed on it, kind of maintains— focussed on it, kind of maintains your determination or weee— maintains your determination or weee wllleewee. — maintains your determination or your willpower. and i think that leell— your willpower. and i think that eeetl le— your willpower. and i think that eeetl le mle— your willpower. and i think that could be mis misunderstood or underestimated— could be mis misunderstood or underestimated perhaps, but then
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elele.— underestimated perhaps, but then again llle— underestimated perhaps, but then again llle elle— underestimated perhaps, but then again, flip side, she was leecllee— again, flip side, she was teaching philosophy was one of the teaching philosophy was one of lle eele-ecle— teaching philosophy was one of lle eellecle. — teaching philosophy was one of the subjects. so— teaching philosophy was one of the subjects. i the subjects. so actually maybe improved country by having improved the country by having fewer doing philosophy. fewer people doing philosophy. you productivity . you could improve productivity. absolutely. fewer people who absolutely. the fewer people who eeeeel —ee— absolutely. the fewer people who eeeeel —ee e— absolutely. the fewer people who regard _as a career,- regard philosophy as a career, the regard philosophy as a career, lle lellee. — regard philosophy as a career, the better. definitely the better. that is definitely tlelw— the better. that is definitely tlelw-eteeelw— the better. that is definitely italy already got quite italy has already got quite a eleeeeeleel— italy has already got quite a chargesheet that so italy has already got quite a- chargesheet.that-so we chargesheet on that front. so we lewe — chargesheet on that front. so we leweleeeellee— chargesheet on that front. so we have l question from _ chargesheet on that front. so we have question from padma. have a question from padma. now, weeele— have a question from padma. now, wleee-e-lleee— have a question from padma. now, where's-there we- have a question from padma. now, where's there we are. where's padma? there we are. lettee— where's padma? there we are. lettee- — where's padma? there we are. lettee- te— where's padma? there we are. lettee- te ll- where's padma? there we are.| hello?- is it acceptable hello? hello? is it acceptable for mps to get in a row with people on social media? yes, very good question . ti“ i “li;t2 it7 yes, very good question . this is the very good question. this is the eeellcetee— very good question. this is the particular example, but not a eellee— particular example, but not a eeleee eee— particular example, but not a unique one. catherine birbalsingh,- unique one. catherine birbalsingh, founder of the tllcleele— birbalsingh, founder of the michaela community free school, wew— michaela community free school, wew wetl— michaela community free school, wew welt leewe— michaela community free school, very well known school. extraordinary— very well known school. extraordinary results in london leem— extraordinary results in london leem e— extraordinary results in london from a disadvantaged cohort. she has from a disadvantaged cohort. she lee ecllewel— from a disadvantaged cohort. she has achieved extraordinary eeeetle— has achieved extraordinary results. she _ has achieved extraordinary results. she posted a four page eeel— results. she posted a four page eeee lellee— results. she posted a four page eeee lellee le— results. she posted a four page open letter to sir— results. she posted a four page open letter to sir keir starmer, eceeelee— open letter to sir keir starmer, eceeelee lle— open letter to sir keir starmer, accusing his shadow minister for lemeellc— accusing his shadow minister for domestic violence— accusing his shadow minister for domestic violence and safeguarding. that's jess lllttlee— safeguarding. that's jess lllttlee el— safeguarding. that's jess phillips of racism . the row phillips of racism. the row lelweee— phillips of racism. the row between the _ phillips of racism. the row between the pair began in may lettewlee— between the pair began in may lettewlee lle — between the pair began in may following the death of pop icon lemee— following the death of pop icon lemee llee— following the death of pop icon turner tina turner. when an ms
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lleleteleel— turner tina turner. when an ms birbalsingh described the star birbalsinin described the star as birbalsingh described the star ee ee lleell— birbalsingh described the star as an iconic black voice of the llele— as an iconic black voice of the llelee eel— as an iconic black voice of the 1980s and shared— as an iconic black voice of the 1980s and shared various lllleeeel— 1980s and shared various different clips— 1980s and shared various different clips of her life, wllcl— different clips of her life, which unfortunately included elcleeee— which unfortunately included elcleeee el— which unfortunately included pictures of her— which unfortunately included pictures of her abusive ex—husband,- pictures of her abusive ex—husband, ike turner , with the ex—husband, ike turner, with the leellee— ex—husband, ike turner, with the eeellee eeel— ex—husband, ike turner, with the caption good times— ex—husband, ike turner, with the caption good times. ex—husband, ike turner, with the caption good times . now, that caption good times. now, that elwleeetw— caption good times. now, that was obviously a— caption good times. now, that was obviously a an error and ms lleleteleel— was obviously a an error and ms lleleteleel. t— was obviously a an error and ms birbalsingh, i think we hardly eeel— birbalsingh, i think we hardly eeel eew— birbalsingh, i think we hardly eeel eew lll— birbalsingh, i think we hardly need say did not— birbalsingh, i think we hardly need say did not absolutely eeeeeel— need say did not absolutely endorse the— need say did not absolutely endorse the domestic violence llel— endorse the domestic violence llel wee— endorse the domestic violence that was that— endorse the domestic violence that was that that that marriage ewmletleel— that was that that that marriage symbolised this— that was that that that marriage symbolised this for many but but weee— symbolised this for many but but reee lllttlee— symbolised this for many but but jess phillips pounced on her and met— jess phillips pounced on her and lelel le— jess phillips pounced on her and tried to expose— jess phillips pounced on her and tried to expose her— jess phillips pounced on her and tried to expose her to a degree of tried to expose her to a degree el leeemlew— tried to expose her to a degree of ignominy that— tried to expose her to a degree of ignominy that was . well it of ignominy that was. well it did of ignominy that was. well it lll eem— of ignominy that was. well it lll le— of ignominy that was. well it did seem to me— of ignominy that was. well it did seem to me a little bit excessive. i— did seem to me a little bit excessive. i think- did seem to me a little bit excessive. ti.it“ did seem to me a little bit- excessive. i think you can make the bullying case, the reading parts of the four page letter because it's four pages. i feel very much like ross in friends front and back. yeah, it felt like she'd set me homework so i wasn't going to do it, but yeah, you can make more of a case for the bullying or wrong tone the bullying or the wrong tone when to bring other when trying to bring other people social in on people on social media in on this pile on. but i also don't understand why there was a doubung understand why there was a doubling down. surely the
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correct would oops, correct response would be, oops, i make a gif or i was trying to make a gif or a gif, however you say it. i got it wrong. i did a thing wrong, but there's been whiff of but there's been no whiff of that. has been entirely that. it has been entirely something happened, but i am now calling you a racist for pointing out. oh no. katharine birbalsingh. she did. she cancelled. is the word? cancelled. she what is the word? deleted. deleted the tweet. and. and she would never and she had said she would never clearly would never have clearly she would never have posted if she'd realised that posted it if she'd realised that the turner thing. it the icon tina turner thing. it does that that does seem to me that that catherine who has been on this channel, you and people channel, you know, and people will be familiar with, is an extraordinary hate figure the extraordinary hate figure to the left has imposed left because she has imposed a very old fashioned sort of discipline , almost the kind you discipline, almost the kind you might associate a victoria might associate with a victoria school a she doesn't like school or a she doesn't like smartphone for children. i mean, she's outrageous. smartphone for children. i mean, she's outrageous—we. she's outrageous. she thinks we eleetl— she's outrageous. she thinks we should shakespeare should teach shakespeare in eeleete— should teach shakespeare in schools-that— should teach shakespeare in schools that should walk schools and that you should walk eeleltw— schools and that you should walk eelellw le— schools and that you should walk quietly in corridors— schools and that you should walk quietly in corridors and things llle— quietly in corridors and things llle-leel.— quietly in corridors and things like _yeah. which- quietly in corridors and things like-yeah. which just,i like this. yeah. which just, you know, who been know, anyone who hadn't been paying know, anyone who hadn't been paying education paying attention to education for few years would for the last few years would be baffled this was baffled as to why this was provocative or controversial. but yeah, and she's got extraordinarily results. and it seems to really get under their
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skin . i mean, far more than most skin. i mean, far more than most people like toby young or whatever, who you can see are deliberately provocative, even though good though they've done good things with schools. right. and with free schools. right. and wetl— with free schools. right. and well—wlw- with free schools. right. and well,_why she's. well, and this is why she's ecceelee— well, and this is why she's ecceelee-el- well, and this is why she's accusing of being racist, accusing them of being racist, lee-l— accusing them of being racist, lee-l lle— accusing them of being racist, isn't it? she's— accusing them of being racist, isn't it? she's saying, oh, wee— isn't it? she's saying, oh, weee-llle- isn't it? she's saying, oh, you're this because isn't it? she's saying, oh,- you're-this because you you're saying this because you well— you're saying this because you well-le— you're saying this because you well-le e— you're saying this because you want-be a typical- you're saying this because you want be a typical black want me to be a typical black eeeee— want me to be a typical black eeeeee-me le- want me to be a typical black person. me to have want me to be a typical black- person.-me to have your person. you want me to have your lewe— person. you want me to have your eel— person. you want me to have your eel t— person. you want me to have your eel t lee-l— person. you want me to have your views and i don't have them. and wlellee— views and i don't have them. and wlellee llel-e— views and i don't have them. and whetherthat's legitimate whether that's a legitimate ctelm— whether that's a legitimate. elelm—leee claim, i don't know, rings true to claim, i don't know, rings true le — claim, i don't know, rings true le oee— claim, i don't know, rings true to me. our final— claim, i don't know, rings true to me. til. 2 �*7 2 to me. our final question is from paul. paul, one of my favourite delicatessens. there he is . hello. cricket has been he is. hello. cricket has been leeel— he is. hello. cricket has been leeel le— he is. hello. cricket has been leeel le le— he is. hello. cricket has been found to be racist,— hello. cricket has been found to be racist, sexist and etlllel— found to be racist, sexist and elitist. should— found to be racist, sexist and elitist. should it— found to be racist, sexist and elitist. should it discriminate eeeleel— elitist. should it discriminate eeeleel lle— elitist. should it discriminate eeeleel lle eew— elitist. should it discriminate against the gay people to and eemetele— against the gay people to and complete lle — against the gay people to and complete the set— against the gay people to and complete the set ? t/ti;5 c2 ti.lti;t complete the set? yes. cricket lee— complete the set? yes. cricket has been found racist, sexist and elitist by the are things racist, sexist and elitist committee who depend on finding such answers to be correct . such answers to be correct. well, i mean, i will just say before i go on that i mean is clearly an extraordinarily elitist sport . it is it clearly an extraordinarily elitist sport. it is it is systemically elitist . you have systemically elitist. you have two aristocrats who are in bat and the peasants are surrounding
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them and they're given the opportunity to make them scatter here and there. but anyway , it's here and there. but anyway, it's a very good question whether whether these sports do need overhauling among the report said it was deep rooted and widespread in english cricket . widespread in english cricket. they had certain ideas about things that should be cancelled like the eton and harrow game which you do feel maybe has a slight echo of a privileged past , i suppose. but the evidence and recommendations is the england wales cricket board, england and wales cricket board, also known the which is also known as the ecb, which is also, course the european also, of course the european central bank, acted on one central bank, and acted on one recommendation saying more than 4000 people provided evidence to the commission set up to look into the game. so perhaps i have been little swift to been a little bit swift to denounce it as as seeking and finding. but what do you think? i don't know enough about cricket to have a knowledge either side of this, but it seems believable. so i've just put my— seems believable. so i've just eel mw eeel— seems believable. so i've just put my caveat before- so i've just put my caveat before my point meee.— put my caveat before my point lleee. t— put my caveat before my point there. i suppose.— put my caveat before my point there. i suppose. yeah. no. leel.— there. i suppose. yeah. no. leel. t— there. i suppose. yeah. no. leel. t ee— there. i suppose. yeah. no. yeah. i can imagine how if you leve— yeah. i can imagine how if you lewe e— yeah. i can imagine how if you lewe e eeeel— yeah. i can imagine how if you have a sport that— yeah. i can imagine how if you have a sport that carries on and
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eeeleltw— have a sport that carries on and eeelellw ee— have a sport that carries on and eeelellw ee ee— have a sport that carries on and probably no one checks to see wlellee— probably no one checks to see whether there _ probably no one checks to see whether there are _ probably no one checks to see whether there are certain ellllelee— whether there are certain attitudes looking at, you attitudes need looking at, you eee-weeeeetl— can paint yourself into a leme-lll— can paint yourself into a corner. it would be good corner. so it would be good to leel— corner. so it would be good to leel le— corner. so it would be good to look to .whether- corner. so it would be good to look to whether should be look to see whether we should be a look to see whether we should be elleee— look to see whether we should be elleee eeelel— look to see whether we should be a.less racist in— look to see whether we should be a.less racist in our— a bit less racist in our eelllel.— a bit less racist in our eelllel. t— a bit less racist in our cricket. i honestly know cricket. i honestly don't know eeeeel— cricket. i honestly don't know enough _cricket- cricket. i honestly don't know enough cricket though. enough about cricket though. it's enough about cricket though. tl-e leew— enough about cricket though. tlte leew leel— enough about cricket though. it's very hard to— enough about cricket though. it's very hard to be— enough about cricket though. it's very hard to be honest. if you look at the england cricket side of county sides side or any of the county sides to racism is rife to believe that racism is rife because there is certainly a lot of colour, as of players of colour, as many maybe not quite as many as you see in in professional football, but what but they're getting there. what does be the case is does seem to be the case is i think probably proceeds from the fact lot of schools fact that a lot of state schools simply don't the playing simply don't have the playing fields and don't regard fields nowadays and don't regard cricket the use of the cricket as the best use of the available in order to available space in order to encourage fresh air and exercise, is primary exercise, which is the primary purpose games purpose of sport and games within an education. well, this is the thing. traditionally of course, almost course, is almost a philosophical problem that what is winning if you become what is for exactly what is sport at the national level is about rubbing the australians noses in it. and, know, to be honest, we and, you know, to be honest, we are any position at the are not in any position at the moment to minimise the talent available by trying to bring in
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affirmative action. look, i wouldn't—thatl wouldn't know about that and i eee-l— wouldn't know about that and i eeel-le— wouldn't know about that and i eee-l-le lle— wouldn't know about that and i can't to the racism, but can't speak to the racism, but i wlll— can't speak to the racism, but i wlll-lel— can't speak to the racism, but i wllt-lel lewe— can't speak to the racism, but i will-let boys have- can't speak to the racism, but i will let boys have their will say let boys have their eeeee— will say let boys have their eeeee t— will say let boys have their spaces. i mean,— will say let boys have their spaces. i mean, do we have to lewe— spaces. i mean, do we have to lewe t-m— spaces. i mean, do we have to lewe t-m ee— spaces. i mean, do we have to have i'm one-these- spaces. i mean, do we have to have i'm one these people have i'm one of these people llel—weee- have i'm one of these people that—we're all- have i'm one of these people. that—we're all about that thinks that we're all about women's spaces.— that thinks that we're all about women's spaces. let's have some lewe—weel- women's spaces. let's have some lewe—weel le- boys spaces if they want to go eel— boys spaces if they want to go eel-lel— boys spaces if they want to go and bad behaviour, go and and have bad behaviour, go and do and have bad behaviour, go and le-eelwele. — and have bad behaviour, go and do private. apparently it do it in private. apparently it lelee— do it in private. apparently it elee-lew.— do it in private. apparently it takes-day. it's— do it in private. apparently it takes day. it's long they takes all day. it's so long they elee— takes all day. it's so long they elee-e— takes all day. it's so long they eleele meet— takes all day. it's so long they stop .a meal five - takes all day. it's so long they stop a meal five days. stop for a meal five days. i t— stop for a meal five days. i mean, i don't— stop for a meal five days. i mean, i don't want- stop for a meal five days. i mean, i don't want to- stop for a meal five days. i mean, i don't want to be involved. iwant mean, i don't want to be involved. i want to be excluded. celelel— involved. i want to be excluded. celelel le— involved. i want to be excluded. cricket is also the only sport that seems to every time they improve it, they less of it. improve it, they do less of it. so like a 24 hour extra. so they're like a 24 hour extra. isolate that and the asymptote is best. is no cricket. that's the best. that's way forward. single that's the way forward. single elel. — that's the way forward. single elel. ellee— that's the way forward. single shot. after the _ that's the way forward. single shot. after the on free shot. after the break on free speech nation, you will hear my take on the us presidential race and thoughts on a surprise and my thoughts on a surprise candidate cause candidate that could cause a stir. don't go away.
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first and welcome back. now this is my lleel llme— and welcome back. now this is my lleel llme leeel— and welcome back. now this is my first time guest hosting— ' “2 i i now this is my first time guest hosting free seeeel— first time guest hosting free speech nation.— first time guest hosting free speech nation. i thought i might use speech nation. i thought i might lle— speech nation. i thought i might use the opportunity to sound a eele— use the opportunity to sound a eele el— use the opportunity to sound a note of optimism— use the opportunity to sound a note of optimism for that eelmlete— note of optimism for that principle for— note of optimism for that principle for free speech, the tllelteel — principle for free speech, the lifeblood of— principle for free speech, the lifeblood of a— principle for free speech, the lifeblood of a healthy democracy llee— lifeblood of a healthy democracy llee lle— lifeblood of a healthy democracy llee lle elell— lifeblood of a healthy democracy than the right on— lifeblood of a healthy democracy than the right on which all elleee— than the right on which all others depend,— than the right on which all others depend, the sine qua others depend, and the sine qua el— others depend, and the sine qua el meelel— others depend, and the sine qua non of mental health. in my wlew— non of mental health. in my el— non of mental health. in my view, at both— non of mental health. in my view, at both the— non of mental health. in my view, at both the individual and eelleeet— view, at both the individual and national level,— view, at both the individual and national level, one— view, at both the individual and national level, one of the most leeletlelee— national level, one of the most tantalising prospects offered for connoisseurs— tantalising prospects offered for connoisseurs open debate for connoisseurs of open debate is for connoisseurs of open debate le-ceelllele— for connoisseurs of open debate is-candidate can— for connoisseurs of open debate is candidate can candidature is the candidate can candidature for is the candidate can candidature lee loze— is the candidate can candidature lee zozl lee— is the candidate can candidature for 2024 for the _ is the candidate can candidature for 2024 for the democratic presidential— for 2024 for the democratic presidential nomination of one leleel— presidential nomination of one leleel l— presidential nomination of one robert f kennedy— presidential nomination of one robert f kennedy junior. any fit young— robert f kennedy junior. any fit weeee eel— robert f kennedy junior. any fit young and healthy candidate weell— young and healthy candidate weell eeeetw— young and healthy candidate would surely be— young and healthy candidate would surely be a welcome leeewellee— would surely be a welcome innovation in— would surely be a welcome innovation in american politics at innovation in american politics el lle— innovation in american politics at the moment.— innovation in american politics at the moment. let alone one carrying— at the moment. let alone one carrying lle— at the moment. let alone one carrying the most— at the moment. let alone one carrying the most famous brand of carrying the most famous brand el weelllet— carrying the most famous brand of youthful vigour— carrying the most famous brand of youthful vigour and optimism in of youthful vigour and optimism le ameelcee— of youthful vigour and optimism in american political history . in american political history. lell— in american political history. lell lle— in american political history. both the default candidates , both the default candidates, meeewllte— both the default candidates, meanwhile, are— both the default candidates, meanwhile, are campaigning to enjoy— meanwhile, are campaigning to eelew eeell— meanwhile, are campaigning to enjoy second terms. they would eel— enjoy second terms. they would eel wetl— enjoy second terms. they would eel welt lele— enjoy second terms. they would end well into their— enjoy second terms. they would end well into their 80s kennedy, at end well into their 80s kennedy, el el— end well into their 80s kennedy, el el. le— end well into their 80s kennedy, el el. le eel— end well into their 80s kennedy, at 69, is not only— end well into their 80s kennedy, at 69, is not only nominally weeeeee— at 69, is not only nominally youngert lel— at 69, is not only nominally younger, but evidently more wllet— younger, but evidently more wllet llee— younger, but evidently more vital than either biden or trump lewe— vital than either biden or trump lewe leee—
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vital than either biden or trump lewe leee lee— vital than either biden or trump have been for years. strategically released footage of strategically released footage el llm — strategically released footage el llm leee— strategically released footage of him bare chested and bench eeeeelee— of him bare chested and bench eeeeelee e— of him bare chested and bench pressing a moderate weight has emeleeleel— pressing a moderate weight has emphasised that— pressing a moderate weight has emphasised that he is in very eeel— emphasised that he is in very eeel eleee— emphasised that he is in very good shape, even— emphasised that he is in very good shape, even for a middle eeel— good shape, even for a middle eeel mee— good shape, even for a middle aged man. some— good shape, even for a middle aged man. some have suggested he may— aged man. some have suggested he mew le— aged man. some have suggested he may be benefiting— aged man. some have suggested he may be benefiting from the sort of testosterone— may be benefiting from the sort of testosterone replacement lleeeew— of testosterone replacement lleeeewllel— of testosterone replacement therapy that is— of testosterone replacement therapy that is reshaping many ellee— therapy that is reshaping many ellee .— therapy that is reshaping many older , wealthier— therapy that is reshaping many older , wealthier men. now jeff older, wealthier men. now jeff lelee— older, wealthier men. now jeff lezee .— older, wealthier men. now jeff lezee . lee— older, wealthier men. now jeff bezos , for instance, muchas bezos, for instance, muchas vleeee— bezos, for instance, muchas vleeee .— bezos, for instance, muchas wleeee . lll— bezos, for instance, muchas wleeee . lll le— bezos, for instance, muchas viagra , did in a— bezos, for instance, muchas viagra , did in a more targeted viagra, did in a more targeted wav— viagra, did in a more targeted wew eelw— viagra, did in a more targeted wew eelw e— viagra, did in a more targeted way only a generation ago, but more seriously— way only a generation ago, but more seriously and more leleleelee— more seriously and more leleleelee lee— more seriously and more intriguing for the discourse are a intriguing for the discourse are ewlle— intriguing for the discourse are e wlle eelee— intriguing for the discourse are a wide range of— intriguing for the discourse are a wide range of policy issues on wllet— a wide range of policy issues on wllel leeeelw— a wide range of policy issues on which kennedy has— a wide range of policy issues on which kennedy has a long record of which kennedy has a long record el lelllee— which kennedy has a long record of holding heretical views by any— of holding heretical views by any mainstream _ of holding heretical views by any mainstream liberal standards . tel— any mainstream liberal standards . tel elele— any mainstream liberal standards , let alone those— any mainstream liberal standards , let alone those of— any mainstream liberal standards , let alone those of a democrat . le— , let alone those of a democrat . le le— , let alone those of a democrat . le le meel— , let alone those of a democrat . he is most commonly described as an anti—vaxxer,_ . he is most commonly described as an anti—vaxxer, but as is so ellee— as an anti—vaxxer, but as is so ellee lle— as an anti—vaxxer, but as is so ellee lle eee— as an anti—vaxxer, but as is so often the case, this— as an anti—vaxxer, but as is so often the case, this does little leellee— often the case, this does little leellee le— often the case, this does little leellle le lle— often the case, this does little justice to the fully evolved , justice to the fully evolved, celeeeel— justice to the fully evolved, coherent and _ justice to the fully evolved, coherent and interconnected lewe— coherent and interconnected le— coherent and interconnected views he holds,— coherent and interconnected views he holds, most of which leee— views he holds, most of which leee preceded— views he holds, most of which long preceded the advent of cell— long preceded the advent of cewll ll— long preceded the advent of covid 19 and— long preceded the advent of covid 19 and most of which eellee— covid 19 and most of which gather around— covid 19 and most of which gather around a— covid 19 and most of which gather around a general eeeelelee— gather around a general suspicion that the usa's food eel— suspicion that the usa's food eel leee— suspicion that the usa's food and drug administration is lemleelel— and drug administration is dominated utd_ and drug administration is dominated utd by the vastly
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eeweelet— dominated utd by the vastly powerful business interests. eeeetlw— powerful business interests. usually referred— powerful business interests. usually referred to as big lleeme— usually referred to as big lleeme .— usually referred to as big pharma . wikipedia asserts that pharma. wikipedia asserts that lemelw-e— pharma. wikipedia asserts that kennedy's rhetoric often elllleee— kennedy's rhetoric often utilises conspiracy theories llee— utilises conspiracy theories llee elwee— utilises conspiracy theories then gives as— utilises conspiracy theories then gives as an example his ceeleellee— then gives as an example his contention that— then gives as an example his contention that covid pandemic eeelel— contention that covid pandemic eeewel le— contention that covid pandemic served to benefit— contention that covid pandemic served to benefit billionaires. leleelel— served to benefit billionaires. leleellee le— served to benefit billionaires. according to kennedy, they go on the according to kennedy, they go on lle eeelemle— according to kennedy, they go on the pandemic resulted in a 4.4 lelttlee— the pandemic resulted in a 4.4 trillion shift— the pandemic resulted in a 4.4 trillion shift in— the pandemic resulted in a 4.4 trillion shift in wealth from lle— trillion shift in wealth from the american— trillion shift in wealth from the american middle class to llle— the american middle class to llle eew— the american middle class to this new blue— the american middle class to this new blue oligarchy that we eeelel— this new blue oligarchy that we ceeelel loo— this new blue oligarchy that we created 500 new— this new blue oligarchy that we created 500 new billionaires wlll— created 500 new billionaires wlll lle— created 500 new billionaires with the lockdowns and the billionaires— with the lockdowns and the billionaires that we already had leeeeeel— billionaires that we already had increased their— billionaires that we already had increased their wealth by 30. well— increased their wealth by 30. well whether— increased their wealth by 30. well whether or— increased their wealth by 30. well whether or not he's right to well whether or not he's right le lewlle— well whether or not he's right le lewlle le— well whether or not he's right to invite to us— well whether or not he's right to invite to us draw sinister cemeetleee— to invite to us draw sinister conclusions about the wisdom or eeceeellw— conclusions about the wisdom or eeceeellw el— conclusions about the wisdom or necessity of lockdown from those lleeeee— necessity of lockdown from those figurest llew— necessity of lockdown from those figurest llew ee— necessity of lockdown from those figures, they are certainly leeeltw— figures, they are certainly broadly correct , and it figures, they are certainly broadly correct, and it is eeeeeeeelee— broadly correct, and it is encouraging to see a senior eellllcel— encouraging to see a senior political figure— encouraging to see a senior political figure draw attention to political figure draw attention le mem.— political figure draw attention le llem. tee— political figure draw attention to them. nor is— political figure draw attention to them. nor is kennedy simply someone throwing— to them. nor is kennedy simply someone throwing up lots of letllee— someone throwing up lots of talking points— someone throwing up lots of talking points to see which one elel— talking points to see which one ellcl le— talking points to see which one ellcl le lee— talking points to see which one
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stick he has decades , adds stick he has decades, adds lecelee— stick he has decades, adds decades long— stick he has decades, adds decades long history of largely eeeceeelet— decades long history of largely successful legal— decades long history of largely successful legal action on lelell— successful legal action on lelell el— successful legal action on behalf of various underdogs , behalf of various underdogs, wlellee— behalf of various underdogs, wlellee llew— behalf of various underdogs, whether they be the victims of leleelw— whether they be the victims of industy pollution, cruel and counterproductive, factory leemlee— counterproductive, factory farming methods or indigenous eleme— farming methods or indigenous elelle .— farming methods or indigenous elelle. lee— farming methods or indigenous elelle. eete eel— farming methods or indigenous rights. he's put his money, his eeeellee— rights. he's put his money, his eeeellee .— rights. he's put his money, his eeeellee . eel— rights. he's put his money, his prestige , and his— rights. he's put his money, his prestige , and his capacity for prestige, and his capacity for leel— prestige, and his capacity for leel weel— prestige, and his capacity for hard work and— prestige, and his capacity for hard work and close reading wleee— hard work and close reading wleee lle— hard work and close reading where his mouth is again and eeele— where his mouth is again and eeele. lel— where his mouth is again and again. and perhaps most leleleelee— again. and perhaps most leleleelee .— again. and perhaps most intriguing , he holds some intriguing, he holds some lecllellw— intriguing, he holds some decidedly non—main stream views eleel— decidedly non—main stream views eleel lle— decidedly non—main stream views about the forces— decidedly non—main stream views about the forces behind the assassinations.— about the forces behind the assassinations. both of his lemeee— assassinations. both of his famous father— assassinations. both of his famous father and his even more lemeee— famous father and his even more lemeee ete— famous father and his even more famous uncle. americans have lemeeetw— famous uncle. americans have famously enshrined the right to leee— famously enshrined the right to leee eeeecl— famously enshrined the right to leee eeeeel le— famously enshrined the right to free speech in their first amendment,— free speech in their first amendment, but the reality is llel— amendment, but the reality is llel eelll— amendment, but the reality is that until very— amendment, but the reality is that until very recently, leeelee— that until very recently, hearing that— that until very recently, hearing that speech amplified was hearing that speech amplified lle— hearing that speech amplified was the privilege of a tiny mleeellw— was the privilege of a tiny minority. only— was the privilege of a tiny minority. only a decade ago, eell— minority. only a decade ago, such troublesome opinions and meewemel— such troublesome opinions and inconvenient facts. as kennedy weell— inconvenient facts. as kennedy voices would likely have seen llm— voices would likely have seen him sidelined,— voices would likely have seen him sidelined, denied the eeweeelel— him sidelined, denied the newsprint and— him sidelined, denied the newsprint and airtime of public tlellw— newsprint and airtime of public tlellw eel— newsprint and airtime of public motty and unable— newsprint and airtime of public motty and unable to cast the eeele— motty and unable to cast the eeele el— motty and unable to cast the seeds of doubt— motty and unable to cast the seeds of doubt in the minds of weleee— seeds of doubt in the minds of weleee tel— seeds of doubt in the minds of voters, let alone— seeds of doubt in the minds of voters, let alone mount a
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serious challenge to an incumbent— serious challenge to an incumbent president. only two weeee— incumbent president. only two weeee agoe— incumbent president. only two weeee agoe ll— incumbent president. only two years ago, it was— incumbent president. only two years ago, it was touch and go. wlellee— years ago, it was touch and go. tllellee llew— years ago, it was touch and go. whether they could even maintain a whether they could even maintain e lwlllee— whether they could even maintain a twitter account.— whether they could even maintain a twitter account. now however, we— a twitter account. now however, wlll etelleeme— a twitter account. now however, with platforms like— a twitter account. now however, with platforms like joe rogan eel— with platforms like joe rogan eel lellee— with platforms like joe rogan and tucker carlson regularly elleecllee— and tucker carlson regularly attracting millions more than the networks— attracting millions more than the networks to _ attracting millions more than the networks to long conversations in which thoughtful— conversations in which thoughtful individual fans are ettewel— thoughtful individual fans are eltewel le— thoughtful individual fans are allowed to express themselves eel— allowed to express themselves eel ewee— allowed to express themselves and even correct— allowed to express themselves and even correct themselves in eeel— and even correct themselves in eeel llme— and even correct themselves in real time without— and even correct themselves in real time without needless interruption— real time without needless interruption and curtailment. meee— interruption and curtailment. lleee le— interruption and curtailment. lleee le e— interruption and curtailment. there is a chance that things mlell— there is a chance that things mlell lleettw— there is a chance that things might finally be— there is a chance that things might finally be changing and a bit might finally be changing and a lll el— might finally be changing and a lll el eeeelee— might finally be changing and a bit of genuine diversity of eelllel— bit of genuine diversity of eelelee mew— bit of genuine diversity of opinion may well get aired in loze- — opinion may well get aired in loze- lel— opinion may well get aired in 2024. and that— opinion may well get aired in 2024. and that in my view, can eeeelw— 2024. and that in my view, can eeeelw eelw— 2024. and that in my view, can eeeelw eelw le— 2024. and that in my view, can eeeelw eelw le e— 2024. and that in my view, can surely only be a good thing . surely only be a good thing. so meee— surely only be a good thing. so lleee eee— surely only be a good thing. so lleee mw— surely only be a good thing. so those are my views.— surely only be a good thing. tit2ti; . what do you those are my views. what do you lllel— those are my views. what do you lllel eewee— those are my views. what do you think guys? robert— those are my views. what do you think guys? robert f— tit2ti; . what do you think guys? robert f kennedy jr . lewe— think guys? robert f kennedy jr . lewe wee— think guys? robert f kennedy jr . have you seen— think guys? robert f kennedy jr . have you seen much of him in eclleee — . have you seen much of him in eclleee leel.— . have you seen much of him in action? yeah, i— . have you seen much of him in action? yeah, i mean- . have you seen much of him in action? “tit?“ “ . have you seen much of him in action? / �*7 action? yeah, i mean my first when i first read that he was potentially running for president, i did think if i were in that family , i think i'd in that family, i think i'd probably stay out of politics. that i mean, the curse of the
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kennedys, which they have talked about at length, not running for politics, is no safeguard against early death. of course, that's the he's— against early death. of course, that's the he's already- d of course, that's the he's already done eeeeel— that's the he's already done eeeeel weel— that's the he's already done enough work to _ that's the he's already done enough work to upset enough eeeele. — enough work to upset enough eeeele. leel.— enough work to upset enough people. / enough work to upset enough people. t/titit“ gilt?“ gilt?“ enough work to upset enough people. / \tit people. yeah, yeah, yeah. no, anything that's putting a light on on big pharma is a good thing, isn't it? i mean i don't just mean the jab, but in general, i think drug companies are so powerful. yeah, we have no are so powerful. yeah, we have ee llee.— are so powerful. yeah, we have ee llee. te— are so powerful. yeah, we have no idea. in this— are so powerful. yeah, we have no idea. in this country- no idea. in this country how eele—ll.- no idea. in this country how eele—ll. t- no idea. in this country howi safe—it. i mean, no idea. in this country how- safe_it. i mean, one safe we are from it. i mean, one of safe we are from it. i mean, one el lle— safe we are from it. i mean, one of the frustrating _ safe we are from it. i mean, one of the frustrating things about the of the frustrating things about lle—le— of the frustrating things about lle—le lle- of the frustrating things about. the—in the united the health debate in the united lleelem— the health debate in the united lleelem-leel- the health debate in the united kingdom,-feel, is- kingdom, i always feel, is that the kingdom, i always feel, is that lle eelw— kingdom, i always feel, is that the only alternative is always eeeeeelel— the only alternative is always eeeeeelel ee— the only alternative is always presented as-the- the only alternative is always presented as the united presented as being the united elelee— presented as being the united elelee-le— presented as being the united states,-is clearly- states, which is clearly exceptionally - states, which is clearly exceptionally able exceptionally dysfunction able and exceptionally dysfunction able eel-teeeetw— exceptionally dysfunction able and - largely-the - and is run largely for the leeelll— and is run largely for the benefit pharmaceutical benefit of pharmaceutical eemeelee— companies. but yeah, he is etmeel— companies. but yeah, he is almostllone_ companies. but yeah, he is almost lone within companies. but yeah, he is- almostllone-within the almost a lone figure within the eeleellet— almost a lone figure within the potential government potential reach of government wle— potential reach of government wle-ee— potential reach of government wle-ee eeeleel- potential reach of government who up against that? who stands up against that? leel.— who stands up against that? leel. t— who stands up against that? leel. t meee— who stands up against that? yeah, i mean, i— who stands up against that? yeah, i mean, i suppose- who stands up against that? yeah, i mean, i suppose in part it feels like it'd be great to split the debate into two though, because getting into big pharma, idea of big pharma, the idea of big companies versus people i know which side i fall down on, but then you start to hear details that you'd like a bit more flesh on the bone when it comes to some of the anti vaccines. well,
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right. longer conversations would give that there is a 3.5 hour conversation joe hour conversation with joe rogan. quite recently recorded and rogan. quite recently recorded eelllel— rogan. quite recently recorded eellllel lle— 3g“ quite recently recorded and find the prospect him and i find the prospect of him i le— and i find the prospect of him i mean he won't— and i find the prospect of him i mean he won't become president i eeeeeee— mean he won't become president i eeeeeee-eeeeeecl- mean he won't become president i eeeeeee-eeeeeeel el- suppose but the prospect of eemelelw— suppose but the prospect of somebody degree of somebody in that degree of eelleellw— somebody in that degree of authority discussing authority openly discussing cia lewelwemeel— authority openly discussing cia involvement in— authority openly discussing cia involvement in the assassinations just in terms of eeeleel.— assassinations just in terms of p0pcomt llel— assassinations just in terms of p0pcomt llel le— assassinations just in terms of popcorn, that is like, you know . llel-e— popcorn, that is like, you know . llel-e leee— popcorn, that is like, you know , that's class, right? that's wew— , that's class, right? that's weew leee. — , that's class, right? that's very true. that's very true. yeah.i very true. that's very true. yeah. i went see professor yeah. i went to see professor nutt speak recently here. yeah the compared horse the guy who compared horse riding to ecstasy and or aspirin or aspirin. i didn't know that. okay, well, he said the alcohol is quite dangerous. shock. i was fired anyway from being the drug tsan fired anyway from being the drug tsar, he was talking a lot tsar, and he was talking a lot about pharmaceuticals and about about pharmaceuticals and i don't think we're completely getting here, you getting off scot free here, you know. absolutely. and it is know. no, absolutely. and it is leleeeellee— know. no, absolutely. and it is interesting-cascade. interesting how they cascade elee-eel— interesting how they cascade elee-eel lele— interesting how they cascade once-get into it- interesting how they cascade once get into it as well. once you get into it as well. elwleeetw.— once you get into it as well. elwleeetw. t— once you get into it as well. obviously, i have- once you get into it as well. obviously, i have elderly eeeeele— obviously, i have elderly parents. well,- obviously, i have elderly parents. well, not obviously, lel— parents. well, not obviously, lel-lewe— parents. well, not obviously, but - have elderly - parents. well, not obviously, but have elderly parents but i do have elderly parents lel.— but i do have elderly parents all. wee— but i do have elderly parents now. and, you know, as soon as wee— now. and, you know, as soon as wee-lellee— now. and, you know, as soon as wee-lellee-lllee- now. and, you know, as soon as you taking thing, you you start taking one thing, you lewe— you start taking one thing, you have-something- you start taking one thing, you have something else to have to take something else to ele— have to take something else to counter-before- have to take something else toi counter-before-know counter it. and before you know it, counter it. and before you know ll-eel— counter it. and before you know ll-eel e— counter it. and before you know rt,-eel e eltt— counter it. and before you know it, got a pill organiser. it, you've got a pill organiser. vee— it, you've got a pill organiser. lee-lle— it, you've got a pill organiser. lee-me ele— it, you've got a pill organiser. you-the size-a- it, you've got a pill organiser. you-the size-a of. it, you've got a pill organiser. you-the size-a of a. you know, the size of a of a eelmeew— you know, the size of a of a primary school—
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you know, the size of a of a primary school art department. it's primary school art department. tl-e e— primary school art department. it's a terrifying. _ primary school art department. it's a terrifying. anyway, after the it's a terrifying. anyway, after lle leeel— it's a terrifying. anyway, after the break speech nation the break on free speech nation we-ee— the break on free speech nation we-an interesting- the break on free speech nation we an interesting case out we have an interesting case out of we have an interesting case out el tlexlce— we have an interesting case out of mexico where— we have an interesting case out of mexico where a— we have an interesting case out of mexico where a congressman lee—eeltlw— of mexico where a congressman lee—eeltlw el- of mexico where a congressman has guilty of gender has been found guilty of gender leeel— has been found guilty of gender based political— has been found guilty of gender based political violence . for a based political violence. for a leceleel— based political violence. for a facebook-that's- based political violence. for a facebook that's not that's facebook post that's not that's not facebook post that's not that's eel seell — facebook post that's not that's not south end. _ facebook post that's not that's not south end. that's mexico . so not south end. that's mexico. so wett— not south end. that's mexico. so we-lt eee— not south end. that's mexico. so we-lt wee— not south end. that's mexico. so we'll see you shortly . hoo hoo we'll see you shortly. hoo hoo lee— we'll see you shortly. hoo hoo lee lee—
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and relax at 11 am. on sundays on and relax at 11 am. on sundays en el— and relax at 11 am. on sundays en el lewe— and relax at 11 am. on sundays on gb news with— and relax at 11 am. on sundays on gb news with me, michael leelltte— on gb news with me, michael leelllte .— portillo. gb views eel— portillo. gb views and welcome back to free portillo. gb views— and welcome back to free speech lellee— and welcome back to free speech lellee . — and welcome back to free speech lellee . lew— and welcome back to free speech lellee . new e— and welcome back to free speech nation . now a former- and welcome back to free speech nation . ttittt litix ti.it“ nation. now a former mexican congressman has been convicted of gender based political violence over posts in which he referred to a trans gender representative as a man who self a scribes as a woman . rodrigo, a scribes as a woman. rodrigo, ivan cortez. i don't know if he is of that ilk who is head of political advocacy for the group called national front for the family, was also convicted of
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digital symbolic , psychological digital symbolic, psychological and sexual violence. a real royal flush of violence. there for using masculine references on twitter and facebook , cortez on twitter and facebook, cortez has appealed his case to the superior chamber in mexico and his legal defence is being supported by adf international. we can speak to its legal counsel, tomas enriquez . i hope counsel, tomas enriquez. i hope that's the correct pronunciation. who joins us now from washington . hello, thomas . from washington. hello, thomas. that was spot on. simon, thank you— that was spot on. simon, thank wee lee— that was spot on. simon, thank wee lee lewlle— that was spot on. simon, thank you for having me. /tit. 2ti; tli;”«t you for having me. you're very welcome— you for having me. you're very welcome . um, so what can you say welcome. um, so what can you say 7 welcome. um, so what can you say ? how can you flesh out this this case for us? well, you get a this case for us? well, you get e leeleellc— this case for us? well, you get a fantastic summary- i t. 7 well, you get a fantastic summary on it. and llle— a fantastic summary on it. and llle le— a fantastic summary on it. and this is fundamentally the issue . unfortunately,— this is fundamentally the issue . unfortunately, the courts of lew— . unfortunately, the courts of tew le— . unfortunately, the courts of tew le le— . unfortunately, the courts of law in in mexico— . unfortunately, the courts of law in in mexico and specifically- law in in mexico and specifically the electoral court for specifically the electoral court lee lle — specifically the electoral court for the federal— specifically the electoral court for the federal judiciary has leee— for the federal judiciary has been politicised. and more than llel.— been politicised. and more than that, weaponized_ been politicised. and more than that, weaponized by some who leeeee— that, weaponized by some who leeeee le— that, weaponized by some who happen to belong— that, weaponized by some who happen to belong to the ruling
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eeellee— happen to belong to the ruling eeellee le— happen to belong to the ruling parties in mexico— happen to belong to the ruling parties in mexico , with the parties in mexico, with the ellecllwe— parties in mexico, with the ellecllwe el— parties in mexico, with the objective of silencing their eeeeelllee. — objective of silencing their opposition. rodrigo's case, as you— opposition. rodrigo's case, as you mentioned,— opposition. rodrigo's case, as you mentioned, involves specifically— you mentioned, involves specifically the him being eeeetleel— specifically the him being eeeetleel lw— specifically the him being penalised by the courts for the lell— penalised by the courts for the lell el— penalised by the courts for the mere fact of recognising the eeleelelte— mere fact of recognising the undeniable fact— mere fact of recognising the undeniable fact that salma luevano, the _ undeniable fact that salma luevano, the transgender tewmelee— luevano, the transgender lawmaker, is— luevano, the transgender lawmaker, is in fact a man that lleellllee— lawmaker, is in fact a man that lleellllee ee— lawmaker, is in fact a man that identifies as a— lawmaker, is in fact a man that identifies as a woman . but the identifies as a woman. but the leeel— identifies as a woman. but the eel lee— identifies as a woman. but the court has said— identifies as a woman. but the court has said that it is eeleelel— court has said that it is unlawful for— court has said that it is unlawful for him to make such a llellmllee— unlawful for him to make such a distinction as— unlawful for him to make such a distinction as it— unlawful for him to make such a distinction as it is— unlawful for him to make such a distinction as it is invidious eeeleel— distinction as it is invidious against salma— distinction as it is invidious against salma luevano and lellee-e— against salma luevano and rodrigo's case— against salma luevano and rodrigo's case is not the only one:— rodrigo's case is not the only ee lleee— rodrigo's case is not the only one, as there are— rodrigo's case is not the only one, as there are over 5—5 cases llel— one, as there are over 5—5 cases llel lewe— one, as there are over 5—5 cases llel lewe eme— one, as there are over 5—5 cases that have come up— one, as there are over 5—5 cases that have come up within the eeel— that have come up within the eeel weee— that have come up within the eeel weee le— that have come up within the past year in which the courts lewe— past year in which the courts lewe eeel— past year in which the courts have acted in— past year in which the courts have acted in the— past year in which the courts have acted in the same way. so leel— have acted in the same way. so leel lee— have acted in the same way. so reel lee mw— have acted in the same way. so just for my benefit— have acted in the same way. so just for my benefit and i might be a bit off the pace here, a little bit, but presumably these conversations and these remarks were expressed in spanish. would that be correct? yes, that is would that be correct? yes, that le leeel— would that be correct? yes, that le eeeel. te— would that be correct? yes, that is correct . is there— would that be correct? t/ti;5 ii is there because is correct. is there because elwleeetw— is correct. is there because elwleeetw. ee— is correct. is there because obviously, one of- ii is there because obviously, one of the issues we lewe— obviously, one of the issues we lewe wlll— obviously, one of the issues we have with this— obviously, one of the issues we have with this with this whole llel— have with this with this whole llel el— have with this with this whole llel el leee— have with this with this whole kind of tone and— have with this with this whole kind of tone and this this wave at kind of tone and this this wave el lle— kind of tone and this this wave at the moment— kind of tone and this this wave at the moment is— kind of tone and this this wave at the moment is a question of teeeeeee— at the moment is a question of leeeeeee eel— at the moment is a question of leeeeeee eel e— at the moment is a question of language and a lot of mps in llle—
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language and a lot of mps in llle-eel— language and a lot of mps in llle-eel t— language and a lot of mps in this and i believe in this country and i believe in emeelee— this country and i believe in emeelee ee— this country and i believe in america as-have- this country and i believe in america as have been america as well, have been eeeleeelel— america as well, have been confronted with— america as well, have been confronted with question, confronted with the question, wlel— confronted with the question, wlel-eemee — confronted with the question, what-woman ?- confronted with the question, what woman ? and whether what is a woman? and whether the weel— what is a woman? and whether the weel -eeeeel— what is a woman? and whether the eeel-eeleele— what is a woman? and whether the word-refersla gender- word woman refers to a gender lleelllw— word woman refers to a gender lleelllw ee— word woman refers to a gender lleelllw ee le— word woman refers to a gender identity or to biological identity or to one's biological te— identity or to one's biological te llel— identity or to one's biological sex. is that distinction made in leellee— sex. is that distinction made in tlexlce. le— sex. is that distinction made in mexico, in spanish, in the same eewe— mexico, in spanish, in the same way? lee— mexico, in spanish, in the same way? lee lleee— mexico, in spanish, in the same way? are there different words? is way? are there different words? te lleee — way? are there different words? te lleee e— way? are there different words? is there a transgression been mele— is there a transgression been mele wllcl— is there a transgression been made which won't automatically leeeetele— made which won't automatically translate directly— made which won't automatically translate directly ? t/ti;5 translate directly? yes, that is certainly the case is the spanish language has this particularity shared with others that it particularity shared with others thatitis particularity shared with others that it is inherently gendered whenever you refer to a lawmaker , you can do it in the male form or the female form. and in this case, rodrigo chose to use the male form because that is what he knows to be coherent with the reality of who salma luevano is. of course , as salma luevano of course, as salma luevano identifies as a woman and wishes to be referred to in the female form. but rodrigo, in taking control of his own expression, has decided, i will not do this because this is a betrayal to which i know to be the truth and my witness to the truth as part
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of the political debate that is ongoing on this specific issue that it seems reasonable enough, where is mexico generally on this you have self id this issue? do you have self id at this issue? do you have self id el lle— this issue? do you have self id el lle-lewe- this issue? do you have self id at the-have we- this issue? do you have self id at the-have we are. this issue? do you have self id. at the-have we are there at the moment? have we are there debates— at the moment? have we are there debates about— at the moment? have we are there debates about biological males and women's prisons and so . on and women's prisons and so. on uh.— and women's prisons and so. on uh, the.— and women's prisons and so. on uh. the. the— and women's prisons and so. on uh, the, the debate— and women's prisons and so. on uh, the, the debate has- and women's prisons and so. on uh, the, the debate has really been stifled precisely because there's an attempt imposed from there's an attempt imposed from the top down by the courts to , the top down by the courts to, to eliminate or avoid any sort of distinction in altogether as i mentioned, there have been other cases in which the unlawful offence by the speaker has been precisely me making a distinction between trans women and women. the court has said in other cases that by introducing this distinction , when you are this distinction, when you are in fact committing violence against women , ironically, the against women, ironically, the same court uses it to the advantage of trans identified individuals whenever it is their own claims that are being brought to court. and so they will applying an intersection
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matrix suggest that because they are trans women and not just women, their rights or their pretences would trump those of women. there have been cases in which the court has even acknowledged that the so called trans women have themselves engagedin trans women have themselves engaged in violence , and yet it engaged in violence, and yet it has failed to actually sanction that misbehaviour on their part because of an intersection , an because of an intersection, an intersectional analysis by which they are more vulnerable than they are more vulnerable than the women generally, and thus they have introduced the distinction themselves . um, one distinction themselves. um, one of the cases that we are involved is as adf international, is that of gabriel quadri, who is currently a sitting lawmaker in the parliament in mexico who has been also sanctioned by the same court after a complaint by the same lawmaker involving the same sort of facts and the fact that he in chamber , in parliament, in he in chamber, in parliament, in congress, i should say, was suggesting that there was something that was fundamentally unfair about, quote, trans women taking the spots that were
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reserved for women with respect to political representation . and to political representation. and that was deemed as a political offence by the court and ultimately sanctioned against gabriel kwasi. that seems very mm...— gabriel kwasi. that seems very mm... of— gabriel kwasi. that seems very familiar. of course,— c that seems very familiar. of course, from what we've seen more— familiar. of course, from what we've seen more more famously wen— we've seen more more famously weu famously— we've seen more more famously weu famously in— we've seen more more famously well famously in america and also— well famously in america and also an— well famously in america and also in she— well famously in america and also in the united kingdom. and one also in the united kingdom. and af— also in the united kingdom. and as she— also in the united kingdom. and one of the phenomena that seems to one of the phenomena that seems as as— one of the phenomena that seems as as farawa— one of the phenomena that seems to be familiar is— one of the phenomena that seems to be familiar is that law makes— to be familiar is that law makers, parliamentarians and of course, academics— makers, parliamentarians and of course, academics discuss these mmgs— course, academics discuss these mass m— course, academics discuss these mmas m amas— course, academics discuss these things in what you— course, academics discuss these things in what you refer to as me— things in what you refer to as the intersectional— things in what you refer to as the intersectional matrix and so on. the intersectional matrix and so me— the intersectional matrix and so me maes— the intersectional matrix and so on. the wider public, generally speaking,— on. the wider public, generally speakmg, ae— on. the wider public, generally speaking, are inclined to be sakeaam— speaking, are inclined to be tolerant and— speaking, are inclined to be tolerant and want everybody to make— tolerant and want everybody to make a— tolerant and want everybody to make a fam— tolerant and want everybody to have a fair crack— tolerant and want everybody to have a fair crack of the whip. em— have a fair crack of the whip. em emee— have a fair crack of the whip. but once they— have a fair crack of the whip. but once they become apprised of the but once they become apprised of me aemak— but once they become apprised of the actual situation, the ramifications— the actual situation, the ramifications implications ramifications and implications as they— ramifications and implications as they ae— ramifications and implications as they are aroused to indignation. - as they are aroused to indignation. would you say this was indignation. would you say this what-s— indignation. would you say this was what's happening in mexico? the gemeaak— was what's happening in mexico? the general population behind this the general population behind mks aa— the general population behind ms or met— the general population behind this or not so— the general population behind this or not so much ? this or not so much? i think mas— this or not so much? i think that wee— this or not so much? i think that we're starting to see a groundswell of support for cases like that of rodrigo or gabriel quadri, the problem continues to be the fact that you have the political elites at in control
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of political institutions , ones of political institutions, ones that are for the most part , that are for the most part, taking sides with transgender activists . so we're not entirely activists. so we're not entirely sure where this will go. but as as rodrigo and gabriel quadri and other cases in which we are involved with, we are taking their cases in internationally to the inter—american commission and then court of human rights protecting their free speech. we believe that that it is absolutely self—evident that there has been a violation here. their speech was absolutely peaceful. it was not an incitement to discrimination. it was not an incitement to violence. and therefore it is unconscious that they would be they are being censored by their expression , by the most expression, by the most fundamental political rights that we all are entitled to . i that we all are entitled to. i absolutely agree with you, mamas. — absolutely agree with you, thomas. all— absolutely agree with you, thomas. all the best. our best wishes— thomas. all the best. our best wishes mam— thomas. all the best. our best wishes from gb— thomas. all the best. our best wishes from gb news on that mam. — wishes from gb news on that front. thomas— wishes from gb news on that front. thomas enrique there, kaakes— front. thomas enrique there, kaakes ama— front. thomas enrique there, ladies and gentlemen, from masmmgaam— ladies and gentlemen, from washington, devonyae hackney . washington, devonyae hackney. smu— washington, devonyae hackney. skin as — washington, devonyae hackney. skin to same— washington, devonyae hackney. still to come on— washington, devonyae hackney. still to come on free speech mamm— still to come on free speech kamam we— still to come on free speech nation, we have— still to come on free speech nation, we have a shot putter proving— nation, we have a shot putter proving herself— nation, we have a shot putter proving herself to be the ammaae— proving herself to be the ultimate team - proving herself to be the ultimate team player. we have the ultimate team player. we have me kaaesa— ultimate team player. we have the latest from _ ultimate team player. we have
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and welcome back to our final session. — and welcome back to our final section. new,— and welcome back to our final section. now, every week we aeakaae — section. now, every week we dedicate this— section. now, every week we dedicate this part of the show to dedicate this part of the show as me— dedicate this part of the show as me make — dedicate this part of the show to the world of— dedicate this part of the show to the world of social media and amen— to the world of social media and often me— to the world of social media and often the stories— to the world of social media and often the stories that are threatening— often the stories that are threatening to- often the stories that are threatening to cancel someone or something— threatening to cancel someone or sememma wrong— threatening to cancel someone or something wrong. first up is mks— something wrong. first up is mks maes— something wrong. first up is this video from _ something wrong. first up is this video from finland of the meme— this video from finland of the make me— this video from finland of the world wife carrying championship aukus— world wife carrying championship aukus .— world wife carrying championship aukus . abom— world wife carrying championship aukus . about .— world wife carrying championship aukus . about . 200 of beer lovers aukus. about. 200 of beer lovers mam— aukus. about. 200 of beer lovers from across the _ aukus. about. 200 of beer lovers from across the globe took part to mm— from across the globe took part to mm mem— from across the globe took part to win their partner's weight in beer.— to win their partner's weight in beer. sa— to win their partner's weight in beer. so ms— to win their partner's weight in beer. so it's obviously a bit of a calculation. _ beer. so it's obviously a bit of a calculation. you— beer. so it's obviously a bit of a calculation. you want it to samen— a calculation. you want it to famem ap— a calculation. you want it to famem up just— a calculation. you want it to fatten up just enough to make it wakkwkke— fatten up just enough to make it worthwhile, but— fatten up just enough to make it worthwhile, but not enough to kaekke— worthwhile, but not enough to buckle under.— worthwhile, but not enough to buckle under. husbands were memee— buckle under. husbands were memee purple— buckle under. husbands were pictured purple in the face as they— pictured purple in the face as key samaakea— pictured purple in the face as they struggled to lug their
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wives— they struggled to lug their wives around— they struggled to lug their wives around a— they struggled to lug their wives around a sand obstacle course and deep— wives around a sand obstacle course and deep water pool in me— course and deep water pool in me make— course and deep water pool in the middle of— course and deep water pool in the middle of summer. although that ks— the middle of summer. although mat is a— the middle of summer. although that is a finnish— the middle of summer. although that is a finnish summer , of that is a finnish summer, of course, wives have to be aged at keasa— course, wives have to be aged at keasa 17— course, wives have to be aged at ease k ama— course, wives have to be aged at least 17 and have— course, wives have to be aged at least 17 and have to— course, wives have to be aged at least 17 and have to weigh at mas— least 17 and have to weigh at that you— least 17 and have to weigh at mean that you would think goes mamm— mean that you would think goes mmeaa saymg— mean that you would think goes without saying and haven't have to weigh— without saying and haven't have to weigh as— without saying and haven't have to weigh at least— without saying and haven't have to weigh at least 49kg, which to be honest— to weigh at least 49kg, which to be honest should— to weigh at least 49kg, which to be honest should go without saying— be honest should go without same as— be honest should go without saying as well. _ be honest should go without saying as well. the winning prize— saying as well. the winning pmze wak— saying as well. the winning prize will secure— saying as well. the winning prize will secure their husbands at prize will secure their husbands as keasa— prize will secure their husbands at ease ask— prize will secure their husbands at least 49l of— prize will secure their husbands at least 49l of beer. i noticed eamew— at least 49l of beer. i noticed earlier, incidentally, that meew— earlier, incidentally, that biden ks— earlier, incidentally, that biden is off— earlier, incidentally, that biden is off to finland , isn't biden is off to finland, isn't mee— biden is off to finland, isn't he? ms— biden is off to finland, isn't he? his windsor— biden is off to finland, isn't he? his windsor castle? i don't know— he? his windsor castle? i don't know whether— he? his windsor castle? i don't know whether dr. _ he? his windsor castle? i don't know whether dr. biden, dr. jill is going— know whether dr. biden, dr. jill is going as— know whether dr. biden, dr. jill is going as be— know whether dr. biden, dr. jill is going to be hoisted onto his skawkdeas— is going to be hoisted onto his shoulders. that— is going to be hoisted onto his shoulders. that would probably end shoulders. that would probably ema me— shoulders. that would probably end the second— shoulders. that would probably end the second term prospects amwwaw— end the second term prospects amwwaw .— end the second term prospects amwwaw . amw— end the second term prospects amwwaw . kmw amy— end the second term prospects anyway . any any ideas on that ? anyway. any any ideas on that? weak.— anyway. any any ideas on that? weu. me— anyway. any any ideas on that? well, the start— anyway. any any ideas on that? well, the start of— anyway. any any ideas on that? well, the start of that- anyway. any any ideas on that? well, the start of that video we saw saw the guy with the wife coming out of the water. i needed to see like ios before was her face under it. just dunk her for a while and then move on. know she's gone with on. i know she's gone with a meme,— on. i know she's gone with a meme, kam— on. i know she's gone with a helmet, but no— g" i know she's gone with a helmet, but no snorkel, c?" i know she's gone with a helmet, but no snorkel, by the way.— helmet, but no snorkel, by the way. .— helmet, but no snorkel, by the way. . bea— helmet, but no snorkel, by the way. k set me— helmet, but no snorkel, by the way. i bet the helmet causes an argument.— way. i bet the helmet causes an argumem. vea— way. i bet the helmet causes an argument. you know she doesn't mask— argument. you know she doesn't trust-definitely- argument. you know she doesn't trust definitely wear a trust him to definitely wear a meme. — trust him to definitely wear a meme. w-s—
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trust him to definitely wear a helmet. it's about- trust him to definitely wear a helmet. c c helmet. it's about time we have it the other way around, though. surely for equality's sake , they surely for equality's sake, they come over the bang into the. it would make a great start to a remak— would make a great start to a reboot ak— would make a great start to a reboot of the— would make a great start to a reboot of the krypton factor as wew,— reboot of the krypton factor as well, wouldn't— reboot of the krypton factor as well, wouldn't it— reboot of the krypton factor as well, wouldn't it ?_ reboot of the krypton factor as well, wouldn't it ? next up, we well, wouldn't it? next up, we make— well, wouldn't it? next up, we make a— well, wouldn't it? next up, we make a weee— well, wouldn't it? next up, we have a video of— well, wouldn't it? next up, we have a video of a— well, wouldn't it? next up, we have a video of a belgian mawamak— have a video of a belgian national shot— have a video of a belgian national shot putter showing the wkwmake— national shot putter showing the ultimate team _ national shot putter showing the ultimate team spirit taking part in ultimate team spirit taking part m a— ultimate team spirit taking part m a mamkes— ultimate team spirit taking part in a hurdles race.— ultimate team spirit taking part in a hurdles race. let's take a kook— in a hurdles race. let's take a kaak ak— in a hurdles race. let's take a kaak ak mks— in a hurdles race. let's take a kaak at was .— in a hurdles race. let's take a look at this . this— in a hurdles race. let's take a look at this . this is a regular look at this. this is a regular awakes— look at this. this is a regular hurdles race.— look at this. this is a regular hurdles race. and— look at this. this is a regular hurdles race. and as you will see, when they— hurdles race. and as you will see, when they all head off, mask— see, when they all head off, mask of— see, when they all head off, most of them _ see, when they all head off, most of them are decent hurdlers ak— most of them are decent hurdlers of mem. — most of them are decent hurdlers one of them. there— most of them are decent hurdlers one of them. “ci most of them are decent hurdlers one of them. "kiwi; so one of them. there he is. so i mmk— one of them. there he is. so i mmk me— one of them. there he is. so i think the idea— one of them. there he is. so i think the idea he— one of them. there he is. so i think the idea he is— one of them. "kiwi; so i think the idea he is actually me— think the idea he is actually we smok— think the idea he is actually me shot put— think the idea he is actually the shot put and hammer throw champion.— the shot put and hammer throw emammem ms— the shot put and hammer throw champion. his name is joe leon, wmem— champion. his name is joe leon, which is— champion. his name is joe leon, which is a— champion. his name is joe leon, which is a mk— champion. his name is joe leon, which is a bit bizarre as well. maybe— which is a bit bizarre as well. maybe it— which is a bit bizarre as well. maybe it was— which is a bit bizarre as well. maybe it was her.— which is a bit bizarre as well. maybe it was her. joe leon. eeem,— maybe it was her. joe leon. eeem teem — maybe it was her. joe leon. boom, boom quo display. great team— boom, boom quo display. great keam stim— boom, boom quo display. great team start at— boom, boom quo display. great team spirit at the— boom, boom quo display. great team spirit at the european championships. oh, it is a she . championships. oh, it is a she. sme— championships. oh, it is a she. she ultimately— championships. oh, it is a she. she ultimately had to step in because— she ultimately had to step in because a team _ she ultimately had to step in because a team mate who was maske— because a team mate who was wmatke ke— because a team mate who was wmatke to me— because a team mate who was unable to race on— because a team mate who was unable to race on the day and sme— unable to race on the day and she am— unable to race on the day and she teem— unable to race on the day and she ran 100m hurdles to save her team— she ran 100m hurdles to save her team from— she ran 100m hurdles to save her team from getting— she ran 100m hurdles to save her team from getting disqualified emtaekw— team from getting disqualified emwew. k— team from getting disqualified emmekw. a 29— team from getting disqualified entirely. a 29 year old finished
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the entirely. a 29 year old finished me me— entirely. a 29 year old finished the race, winning— entirely. a 29 year old finished the race, winning her team an important— the race, winning her team an important we— the race, winning her team an important two points. looks like she wast— important two points. looks like she wasn't made— important two points. looks like she wasn't made aware, however, mak— she wasn't made aware, however, that wew— she wasn't made aware, however, that you aem-k— she wasn't made aware, however, that you aren't actually disqualified— that you aren't actually disqualified in a hurdles race. if disqualified in a hurdles race. it weare— disqualified in a hurdles race. it wwke mew— disqualified in a hurdles race. if you're not, the— disqualified in a hurdles race. if you're not, the hurdle over it twsk— if you're not, the hurdle over it twsk skews— if you're not, the hurdle over it just slows you— if you're not, the hurdle over it just slows you down a bit. so ske— it just slows you down a bit. so she sewa— it just slows you down a bit. so she could have— it just slows you down a bit. so she could have just— it just slows you down a bit. so she could have just charged statem— she could have just charged straight through them, which wewka—kme. - straight through them, which would fine. yeah straight through them, which would—fine. yeah i would have been fine. yeah but i think— would have been fine. yeah but i think mks— would have been fine. yeah but i think kmslwaw— would have been fine. yeah but i think this .you now— would have been fine. yeah but i think this you now saying think this is you now saying it's the winning, it's the it's not the winning, it's the taking part that counts. twice now a big lefty on now you've become a big lefty on the show. it's the taking apart. weak— the show. it's the taking apart. weak wave— the show. it's the taking apart. weak kawe wew— the show. it's the taking apart. yeah have you ever— it's the taking apart. yeah have you ever run hurdles? no, yeah have you ever run hurdles? we. skmam— yeah have you ever run hurdles? we. skmam twe— yeah have you ever run hurdles? no, simon, i've never— yeah have you ever run hurdles? no, simon, i've never run- no, simon, i've never run hurdles. i tried to run at them mek— hurdles. i tried to run at them once. their ridicule— : i tried to run at them once. their ridicule high and sent.— once. their ridicule high and sent—wew- once. their ridicule high andi solid. _you would solid. these things you would assume-clatter- solid. these things you would assume clatter into one, assume if you clatter into one, you— assume if you clatter into one, wew-aekwakw— assume if you clatter into one, you actually yourself you can actually do yourself a mksemek — you can actually do yourself a mischief. so— you can actually do yourself a mischief. so that's- you can actually do yourself a mischief. t:tit you can actually do yourself a mischief. t:kit e mischief. so that's why i do it. yeah. mischief. so that's why i do it. weak. weak— mischief. so that's why i do it. weak. weak — mischief. so that's why i do it. yeah. yeah nana taoiseach, though. good team though. anyway, good team skim.— though. anyway, good team spktklaemk— though. anyway, good team spirit.idon't know- g anyway, good team spirit. don't know why she spirit. i don't know why she wit—tea- spirit. i don't know why she will—for that.| will get cancelled for that. i aem-t— will get cancelled for that. i don't-there's- will get cancelled for that. i don't-there's any- will get cancelled for that. i don't there's any danger don't think there's any danger of don't think there's any danger etlkmatw— don't think there's any danger of.finally-the- of it. finally this is the mem— of it. finally this is the mem a— of it. finally this is the moment a passer by threw milk a growt— moment a passer by threw milk a grow et— moment a passer by threw milk over a group of just stop oil protesters— over a group of just stop oil protesters as— over a group of just stop oil protesters as they held up tatte— protesters as they held up traffic during— protesters as they held up traffic during one their traffic during one of their tatest— traffic during one of their latest slow— traffic during one of their latest slow marching stunts. wet-s— latest slow marching stunts. ket-s—at- latest slow marching stunts. let's—at this. - latest slow marching stunts.| let's—at this. oh, let's take a look at this. oh, kee— let's take a look at this. oh, kete ke— let's take a look at this. oh, were he goes.— let's take a look at this. oh, here he goes. the- let's take a look at this. oh, here he goes. the man in hammersmith— here he goes. the man in hammersmith filmed himself appeaseme— hammersmith filmed himself approaching the just stop oil as he approaching the just stop oil as
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me mwtteaet— approaching the just stop oil as he muttered, having a laugh. mks— he muttered, having a laugh. tkts tet— he muttered, having a laugh. tkts tet .— he muttered, having a laugh. tkts tet . om— he muttered, having a laugh. this lot . oh, there it is . yeah this lot. oh, there it is. yeah eh,— this lot. oh, there it is. yeah om te— this lot. oh, there it is. yeah om the sme— this lot. oh, there it is. yeah oh, the shoe is— this lot. oh, there it is. yeah oh, the shoe is on- this lot. oh, there it is. yeah oh, the shoe is on the other test.— oh, the shoe is on the other foot. presumably— oh, the shoe is on the other foot. presumably they are all teame— foot. presumably they are all vegan, are they? e kitii; vegan, are they? is it more. on— vegan, are they? is it more. om t— vegan, are they? is it more. om t katm-t— vegan, are they? is it more. oh, i hadn't even— vegan, are they? e “kitii; oh, i hadn't even thought of that.— oh, i hadn't even thought of that. om— oh, i hadn't even thought of that. oh well— oh, i hadn't even thought of that. oh well let's hope it was eat— that. oh well let's hope it was eat mttk. — that. oh well let's hope it was eat mttk. t— that. oh well let's hope it was oat milk. i don't— that. oh well let's hope it was oat milk. t:kit“ e let's. oat milk. i don't know. let's. wtsgwstma. — oat milk. i don't know. let's. wtsgwstma. ot— oat milk. i don't know. let's. disgusting. or what- oat milk. i don't know. let's. disgusting. or what do- oat milk. i don't know. let's. disgusting. or what do they call it. oj now. because it's not technically milk. i don't know if you're allowed to say that anyway. you just did. yeah, that's that's the _ /kit. t: t: yeah, that's that's the colloquial team. — that's that's the colloquial team. tat— that's that's the colloquial team. but t— that's that's the colloquial term. buti mean,- that's that's the colloquial term. .. that's that's the colloquial- term. but i mean, what are you milk to get a note from a note. this note. yeah > in fact there a mere— this note. yeah > in fact there was a there was— this note. yeah > in fact there was a there was a— this note. yeah > in fact there was a there was a court- “ “43?" > in fact there was a there was a court case in amettea— was a there was a court case in amettea twat— was a there was a court case in america that if,— was a there was a court case in america that if, unless it was sometimes— america that if, unless it was something that— america that if, unless it was something that you could milk that— something that you could milk that wew— something that you could milk that you shouldn't be called a mttk. — that you shouldn't be called a mttk. weak.— that you shouldn't be called a milk. yeah. and— that you shouldn't be called a milk. yeah. and i— that you shouldn't be called a milk. yeah. and i was i was with that— milk. yeah. and i was i was with that eewtt— milk. yeah. and i was i was with that court case— milk. yeah. and i was i was with that court case until the people bringing—should- that court case until the people bringing should call bringing it said you should call it bringing it said you should call tt-t-m— bringing it said you should call tt-t-m met— bringing it said you should call it i'm not walking, it nut juice. i'm not walking, km— it nut juice. i'm not walking, t-m—m- it nut juice. i'm not walking,| t-m—m-amt i'm not walking in costa and askmg— i'm not walking in costa and askmglseme— i'm not walking in costa and asking-some nut- i'm not walking in costa and asking some nut juice in me. asking for some nut juice in me. wtmk— asking for some nut juice in me. wttmk mwt— asking for some nut juice in me. wttmk mwt twtee— asking for some nut juice in me. drink nut juice limit. 0“ drink nut juice city limit. oh, wew-eme te— drink nut juice city limit. oh, now-come to the- drink nut juice city limit. oh, now-come to the part- drink nut juice city limit. oh, now-come to the part of. drink nut juice city limit. oh, now come to the part of the now we come to the part of the show where we talk through your unfiltered dilemmas. i think to an just have an extent, we just have discussed unfiltered dilemma, discussed an unfiltered dilemma, haven't we? but our first technical comes from
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technical dilemma comes from louis. one out louis. i'll read this one out for i left my barbecue for you. i left my barbecue outside over winter and once caught a fox urine rating on it as you do. didn't have a baseball bat or a kimono to hand . ithen baseball bat or a kimono to hand . i then forgot to clean it. forgot? yeah, right. oh only to come home one evening last week and found my partner had fired it up and was cooking his dinner on it. should i tell him? what do you think, chris? i would keep that m— do you think, chris? i would keep that in the— do you think, chris? i would keep that in the back- t:ki.t 57’ i would keep that in the back pocket. mete-kt— keep that in the back pocket. there'll come— keep that in the back pocket. there'll come a— keep that in the back pocket. there'll come a time when you want— there'll come a time when you want te— there'll come a time when you want te tekt— there'll come a time when you want to tell him.— there'll come a time when you want to tell him. yeah jtit“ . want to tell him. yeah don't waste— want to tell him. yeah don't waste kt.— want to tell him. yeah don't waste it. yeah,— want to tell him. yeah don't waste it. yeah, you're so stupid. you didn't even realise . i stupid. you didn't even realise . t wewtt— stupid. you didn't even realise . i would imagine— stupid. you didn't even realise . i would imagine a— t: you didn't even realise . i would imagine a decently teatet— . i would imagine a decently heated barbecue— . i would imagine a decently heated barbecue will burn off any— heated barbecue will burn off any esttwe— heated barbecue will burn off any testtwe .— heated barbecue will burn off any residue . right. you're the any residue. right. you're the setemttst. — any residue. right. you're the scientist. definitely . scientist. oh, definitely. vwke— scientist. oh, definitely. you're achieving - scientist. oh, definitely. you're achieving temperatures, which known the which is well known in the science community. is science community. there is a temperature which fox temperature above which fox urine , and all learn urine degrades, and we all learn that in the first year, and you definitely achieve that with hot coals. do they say the coals. and what do they say the tese— coals. and what do they say the tese ts— coals. and what do they say the tese ts twe— coals. and what do they say the dose is the poison,— i and what do they say the dose is the poison, right? a ttttte— dose is the poison, right? a tttttelet— dose is the poison, right? a little .of fox _ dose is the poison, right? a little of fox urine might be little bit of fox urine might be 900d_ little bit of fox urine might be aeet tet— little bit of fox urine might be good tea yout— little bit of fox urine might be good for you, right? like a homoeopathic_ good for you, right? like a homoeopathic tolerance. twaettw— exactly. eventually you'll be able it. i don't this is able to neck it. i don't this is like how that guy in the
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princess bride managed to gradually develop immunity . gradually develop his immunity. yeah, we have a golden retriever wke— yeah, we have a golden retriever wke gees— yeah, we have a golden retriever wke gees ewt— yeah, we have a golden retriever who goes out into— yeah, we have a golden retriever who goes out into the back eaten— who goes out into the back garden ewew— who goes out into the back garden every time he can hear or smett— garden every time he can hear or smett a— garden every time he can hear or smett a te— garden every time he can hear or smell a fox out— garden every time he can hear or smell a fox out there at all. they— smell a fox out there at all. mew-amt— smell a fox out there at all. they -and there - smell a fox out there at all. they and there is a kind they have. and there is a kind of they have. and there is a kind et-tke— they have. and there is a kind et-tke wme— they have. and there is a kind of-the urine going- they have. and there is a kind of the urine going on. of war of the urine going on. amt— of war of the urine going on. and sometimes— of war of the urine going on. and sometimes overnight the fox m amt— and sometimes overnight the fox comes in and deliberately comes in and will deliberately twekw— comes in and will deliberately twekw-ts— comes in and will deliberately twekw-ts tke- comes in and will deliberately bucky.-is the dog. . comes in and will deliberately bucky. is the dog. the bucky. his name is the dog. the fox bucky. his name is the dog. the tek wttt— bucky. his name is the dog. the fox will deliberately pee wee on his fox will deliberately pee wee on its tews— fox will deliberately pee wee on its tews .— fox will deliberately pee wee on its tews. tt-s— fox will deliberately pee wee on his toys. it's so— fox will deliberately pee wee on his toys . it's so horrible fox will deliberately pee wee on his toys. it's so horrible . and his toys. it's so horrible. and mew— his toys. it's so horrible. and the weak— his toys. it's so horrible. and they really does— his toys. it's so horrible. and they really does stink, you knew.— they really does stink, you knew. se— they really does stink, you knew. se t— they really does stink, you know, so i can't- they really does stink, you know, so i can't imagine that tms— know, so i can't imagine that tkts awk— know, so i can't imagine that we gww met— know, so i can't imagine that this guy fired up— know, so i can't imagine that this guy fired up the barbecue wttkewt— this guy fired up the barbecue without being— this guy fired up the barbecue without being aware that if mete— without being aware that if there-anything- without being aware that if there anything on there, you there was anything on there, you wewtt—et— there was anything on there, you wewtt—et kt.- there was anything on there, you would of it. anyway, would get a whiff of it. anyway, i would get a whiff of it. anyway, t-tt-s— would get a whiff of it. anyway, t-tt-s wetattw— would get a whiff of it. anyway, i it's probably safe. i think it's probably safe. mete-s— i think it's probably safe. there's the— i think it's probably safe. there's the other one, isn't it? if there's the other one, isn't it? tt wew— there's the other one, isn't it? if you accidentally knock your tamer-s— if you accidentally knock your partner's—into - if you accidentally knock your partner's—into thel partner's toothbrush into the look _ partner's toothbrush into the tee. lwew — partner's toothbrush into the teelwew-tkem- partner's toothbrush into the loo,.you-them i- partner's toothbrush into the loo, you them i hadn't loo, do you tell them i hadn't teat— loo, do you tell them i hadn't teat et— loo, do you tell them i hadn't heard of that?— loo, do you tell them i hadn't heard of that? our final dilemma for heard of that? our final dilemma tea tkts— heard of that? our final dilemma tea tkts week— heard of that? our final dilemma for this week is— heard of that? our final dilemma for this week is from penny . i for this week is from penny. i tewe— for this week is from penny. i tewe ee— for this week is from penny. i love gb news— for this week is from penny. i love gb news and i have a crush on love gb news and i have a crush em ketea— love gb news and i have a crush on peter edwards— love gb news and i have a crush on peter edwards .— love gb news and i have a crush on peter edwards . he's the on peter edwards. he's the teamea— on peter edwards. he's the former editor— on peter edwards. he's the former editor of- on peter edwards. he's the former editor of labour list. i test— former editor of labour list. i twst tewe— former editor of labour list. i twst tewe ms— former editor of labour list. i just love his combative style . just love his combative style. is just love his combative style. ts ke— just love his combative style. ts me as— just love his combative style. ts me as aaeat— just love his combative style. is he as great in— just love his combative style. is he as great in real life as he is he as great in real life as me appeas— is he as great in real life as me appeaas em— is he as great in real life as he appears on screen? well, if twat-s— he appears on screen? well, if tkat-s mm— he appears on screen? well, if that's him appearing on screen, i that's him appearing on screen, t tea-t— that's him appearing on screen,
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t tem-t knew.— that's him appearing on screen, i don't know. but— that's him appearing on screen, i don't know. but anyway, i've never met the _ i don't know. but anyway, i've never met the chap. have you ever encountered— never met the chap. have you ever encountered him? \kit never met the chap. have you ever encountered him? wait ever encountered him? no, never had ever encountered him? no, never tat tte— ever encountered him? no, never had the pleasure. it sounds like i'm a trick here. it i'm missing a trick here. it sounds like i'll look out for him. who's your biggest gb news eawsm— him. who's your biggest gb news crush? straight— him. who's your biggest gb news crush? straight off— “ who's your biggest gb news crush? straight off the top of wew— crush? straight off the top of wewa teat.— crush? straight off the top of your head. don't— crush? straight off the top of your head. don't don't filter ataeatw — your head. don't don't filter already- om— your head. don't don't filter already. oh, it's- your head. don't don't filter already. 0“ e your head. don't don't filter already. e i already. oh, it's the cleaner. you've never met him. do you have a gb news— you've never met him. do you have a gb news crush?- /kit. “ do you have a gb news crush? yeah go . have a gb news crush? yeah go. we.— have a gb news crush? yeah go. we. om— have a gb news crush? yeah go. we. om weae— have a gb news crush? yeah go. no. oh, we're out— have a gb news crush? yeah go. no. oh, we're out of— have a gb news crush? yeah go. no. oh, we're out of time- have a gb news crush? yeah go. wait o“ ”ti: e oh, no. oh, we're out of time. oh, we're not out of time. time? twe— we're not out of time. time? we atwaws— we're not out of time. time? i've always found— we're not out of time. “ti7 i've always found gloria to be a wew— i've always found gloria to be a very attractive. _ i've always found gloria to be a very attractive. she— i've always found gloria to be a very attractive. she used to be the— very attractive. she used to be the wt— very attractive. she used to be the we tea— very attractive. she used to be the we tea t— very attractive. she used to be the mp for i used— very attractive. she used to be the mp for i used to live. yeah. weak— the mp for i used to live. yeah. yeah weak. — the mp for i used to live. yeah. yeah yeah. “g “g yeah yeah. something about being an mp. that's real. real answers. i believe- iif�*t�* that's real. real answers. an mp. that's real. real answers. i believe that jacob rees—mogg is attracting quite a sizeable female following these days. just the ones you don't suspect. isn't it ? anyway we suspect. isn't it? anyway we will make sure that our former labour leader or labour list chapis labour leader or labour list chap is informed of the crush cohort that is starting to follow him in the meantime, thank you for joining follow him in the meantime, thank you forjoining us on free thank you for joining us on free speech nation. this was the week when france went in flames. when france went up in flames.
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labour mp jess phillips was accused of outright racism and banks decided your money was no longer good enough. if you don't agree with their agenda. thank you to my panel. chris ella whelan. ladies and gentlemen , i whelan. ladies and gentlemen, i and steve allen . in and to my and steve allen. in and to my guests whom i fire, james woodhouse and john christopher boa and thomas henriques from from washington, dc completely forgotten what it was called there for a moment if you want to join us live in the studio and be part of our wonderful audience, you can go sr audience, you can go to sr audiences.com. that's at the bottom of the screen. stay tuned. after this break for the brilliant mark dolan tonight. that's coming up next. don't forget that headliners is on every night at 11 pm. i'm often hosting that on mondays and tuesdays. that's the late night paper review where the comedians will talk through next paper review where the comedians will tastories. through next paper review where the comedians will tastories. meantime, next paper review where the comedians will tastories. meantime, thank day's stories. meantime, thank you. night. hello there. you. good night. hello there. km— you. good night. hello there. m sea— you. good night. hello there. i'm greg dewhurst_ c: “g“ hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to
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wew— i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to wewa tatest— i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to wewa tatest ee— i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news— i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. keekme— your latest gb news weather. keekmg at— your latest gb news weather. looking at the— your latest gb news weather. looking at the week ahead , we'll looking at the week ahead, we'll see rain or showers— looking at the week ahead, we'll see rain or showers at times, twt— see rain or showers at times, twt tkeae— see rain or showers at times, but there will— see rain or showers at times, but there will be— see rain or showers at times, but there will be some sunshine, paattewtaatw— but there will be some sunshine, particularly towards the end of the _temperatures. particularly towards the end of the temperatures will the week and temperatures will stat— the week and temperatures will stat-as— the week and temperatures will staat-as wett— the week and temperatures will staat-as wett .- the week and temperatures will start-as well . we- the week and temperatures will start as well . we can start to rise as well. we can twat— start to rise as well. we can see that nicely— start to rise as well. we can see that nicely on the bigger ptetwae— see that nicely on the bigger ptetwae. awtte— see that nicely on the bigger picture, quite unsettled at the memet— moment, tightly packed isobars tmtteatmg— moment, tightly packed isobars indicating quite— moment, tightly packed isobars indicating quite a— moment, tightly packed isobars indicating quite a brisk wind at ttmes— indicating quite a brisk wind at ttmes .— indicating quite a brisk wind at ttmes . amt— indicating quite a brisk wind at ttmes . amt wew— indicating quite a brisk wind at times . and you can see outbreaks times. and you can see outbreaks of times. and you can see outbreaks et aam— times. and you can see outbreaks et ewt— times. and you can see outbreaks et am as— times. and you can see outbreaks of rain. but as we— times. and you can see outbreaks of rain. but as we move towards the ewe— of rain. but as we move towards the emt et— of rain. but as we move towards the emt et twe— of rain. but as we move towards the end of the week, it should settte— the end of the week, it should settte tewm— the end of the week, it should settle down a— the end of the week, it should settle down a little. so back to sweat— settle down a little. so back to sunday evening— settle down a little. so back to sunday evening continue sunday evening and we continue to sunday evening and we continue tea—aess tate- to have showers across the meatkem— to have showers across the northern _the - to have showers across the northern the uk. plenty northern half of the uk. plenty of northern half of the uk. plenty et-seetts— northern half of the uk. plenty of spells overnight. of clear spells overnight. twatkea— of clear spells overnight. further south _ of clear spells overnight. further south and east, perhaps seme-seetts— further south and east, perhaps some-spellslrain- some longer spells of rain as wett— some longer spells of rain as well-northern- some longer spells of rain as well northern parts of well across northern parts of seettamt— well across northern parts of scotland and _ well across northern parts of scotland and generally temperatures, towns and cities , temperatures, towns and cities, tew— temperatures, towns and cities, tew tewtte— temperatures, towns and cities, low double figures, perhaps just atew— low double figures, perhaps just atew seets— low double figures, perhaps just atew seets m— low double figures, perhaps just a few spots in the— low double figures, perhaps just a few spots in the countryside dipping— a few spots in the countryside ttppmg tate— a few spots in the countryside dipping into single figures. but it dipping into single figures. but tt eas— dipping into single figures. but it means quite— dipping into single figures. but it means quite a— dipping into single figures. but it means quite a bright start for it means quite a bright start tea wemtaw— it means quite a bright start for monday morning. yes, tkeae-tt— for monday morning. yes, there'll be— for monday morning. yes, there'll be showers from the weat— there'll be showers from the weaatlaess— there'll be showers from the word across western areas. word 90 across western areas. seme— word 90 across western areas. semeltkese— word go across western areas. some these turning quite word go across western areas. some asthese turning quite word go across western areas. some as we ;e turning quite word go across western areas. some as we moveiing quite word go across western areas. some as we move throughe word go across western areas. some as we move through the heavy as we move through the taw. — heavy as we move through the taw. _temgea- heavy as we move through the. day. _longer spells day. perhaps some longer spells of day. perhaps some longer spells et—meatkem- day. perhaps some longer spells of_northern parts- day. perhaps some longer spells of northern parts of of rain across northern parts of wakes— of rain across northern parts of wales-northern— of rain across northern parts of wales northern england . at wales into northern england. at the—tats— wales into northern england. at the—this band- wales into northern england. ati the—this band-rain the same time, this band of rain eemmwest— the same time, this band of rain emtmwest te— the same time, this band of rain continues to slowly— the same time, this band of rain continues to slowly sink southwards _ continues to slowly sink southwards across northern seettamt—
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southwards across northern seettamt .— southwards across northern scotland . quite a breezy day. scotland. quite a breezy day. ewsts— scotland. quite a breezy day. ewsts et— scotland. quite a breezy day. ewsts et so— scotland. quite a breezy day. gusts of 30 miles an hour or so it— gusts of 30 miles an hour or so it wttt— gusts of 30 miles an hour or so it wttt teet— gusts of 30 miles an hour or so ..it will feel quite- gusts of 30 miles an hour or so . it will feel quite cool in . so it will feel quite cool in awe— . so it will feel quite cool in amt aaewmt— . so it will feel quite cool in and around showers, top temperatures— and around showers, top temperatures getting into the low temperatures getting into the tew zes— temperatures getting into the tew zes-tke- temperatures getting into the low 20s the south—east low 20s across the south—east ttemtaw— low 20s across the south—east monday evening.— low 20s across the south—east monday evening. we continue to see showers across— monday evening. we continue to see showers across the southern tatt— see showers across the southern matt et— see showers across the southern matt et twe— see showers across the southern half of the uk.— see showers across the southern half of the uk. some of these keaw— half of the uk. some of these keaw at— half of the uk. some of these heavy at times— half of the uk. some of these heavy at times that band of rain stit— heavy at times that band of rain stttt stewtw— heavy at times that band of rain still slowly-its- heavy at times that band of rain still slowly-its way- still slowly pushing its way southwards— still slowly pushing its way southwards across scotland and tem— southwards across scotland and then overnight— southwards across scotland and then overnight tuesday then overnight into tuesday memmd— then overnight into tuesday memmg. a— then overnight into tuesday morning, a more persistent spell of morning, a more persistent spell et aam— morning, a more persistent spell et aess— morning, a more persistent spell of rain across southern counties of rain across southern counties et tmetamt— of rain across southern counties et england amt— of rain across southern counties of england and wales. here, temperatures— of england and wales. here, temperatures around 13 or 14 teeaees— temperatures around 13 or 14 degrees under— temperatures around 13 or 14 degrees under clear skies twatkea— degrees under clear skies further north,— degrees under clear skies further north, perhaps dipping into further north, perhaps dipping tmte smete— further north, perhaps dipping into single figures. so a wet stat— into single figures. so a wet staat aess— into single figures. so a wet start across southern counties of start across southern counties et tate— start across southern counties et tke wk— start across southern counties of the uk tuesday morning . this of the uk tuesday morning. this aam— of the uk tuesday morning. this sues— of the uk tuesday morning. this sttps awak— of the uk tuesday morning. this rain slips away and then aemeaatw— rain slips away and then generally it's— rain slips away and then generally it's a day of sunshine amt— generally it's a day of sunshine amt seweask— generally it's a day of sunshine and showers across the whole of the eewmtaw — and showers across the whole of the country. some— and showers across the whole of the country. some of these could be heavy— the country. some of these could be keaw at— the country. some of these could be heavy at times— the country. some of these could be heavy at times .— the country. some of these could be heavy at times . perhaps the be heavy at times. perhaps the ett— be heavy at times. perhaps the ett awmtte— be heavy at times. perhaps the odd rumble of— be heavy at times. perhaps the odd rumble of thunder and temperatures— odd rumble of thunder and temperatures again on the cool stee— temperatures again on the cool stte tea— temperatures again on the cool stte tea twe— temperatures again on the cool side for the-of— temperatures again on the cool side for the of year side for the time of year staatme— side for the time of year staatmg te— side for the time of year starting to dry- side for the time of year starting to dry up as we head tewaats— starting to dry up as we head tewaats twe— starting to dry up as we head towards the end— starting to dry up as we head towards the end of the week and tempeaatwaes— towards the end of the week and temperatures beginning rise . temperatures beginning to rise. on temperatures beginning to rise. em wak— temperatures beginning to rise.
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on mark dolan— temperatures beginning to rise. on mark dolan tonight, in my big eemtem— on mark dolan tonight, in my big epmtem wttk— on mark dolan tonight, in my big opinion with extremist parties on opinion with extremist parties em twe— opinion with extremist parties em tke atse— opinion with extremist parties on the rise across— opinion with extremist parties on the rise across europe , with on the rise across europe, with eeamamw— on the rise across europe, with eeamamw amt— on the rise across europe, with germany and the— on the rise across europe, with germany and the eurozone in amt— germany and the eurozone in recession and with french cities on recession and with french cities em ake.— recession and with french cities em me. thank— recession and with french cities on fire, thank god— recession and with french cities on fire, thank god we're out in mttake— on fire, thank god we're out in mttake at— on fire, thank god we're out in mitake at ten. _ on fire, thank god we're out in mitake at ten. the- on fire, thank god we're out in mitake at ten. i “g : mitake at ten. the closing down of bank accounts is an attack on people power. it's time to cancel cancel culture . will the cancel cancel culture. will the covid inquiry be a stitch up? and were lockdowns and historic mistake. i'll be asking professor of evidence based medicine at oxford university, dr. carl henigan . plus ann dr. carl henigan. plus ann widdecombe, lady victoria hervey and my top pundit. we're live from nine
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