heard about the new conservatives .7 well, they're conservatives? well, they're basically a part of the old conservatives, but we'll gloss over that bit. they have got a 12 point migration plan. they want to bring net immigration down to circa 200,000. what do you make to this? do you think that plan will ever be achieved? and what does it say about rishi sunaks premiership that his groups are splitting up and going in different directions and suella braverman, do you remember one of her chief allies was steve baker ? cast your mind was steve baker? cast your mind back. he was pretty much a campaign manager when she tried to be prime minister. get this. so he's now removed his support . why? because brace yourself, everyone. are you ready ? she has everyone. are you ready? she has had the audacity to connect british, pakistani men to grooming gang steve baker says it's a step too far. grooming gang steve baker says it's a step too far . what says it's a step too far. what says you? and have you seen the ridiculous video of the pcso refusing to get involved in fighting crime ? no. well, worry fighting crime? no. well, worry not because i'll be showing you that video in a few minutes and

it's got me wondering, do you think pcsos are pointless? and do you have a criminal record? it's all right. i won't tell anyone if you do, but if you do, i'm wondering, do think it i'm wondering, do you think it should barrier to should be a barrier to employment? i'm not talking employment? and i'm not talking about working nurseries. i'm about working at nurseries. i'm talking way broader than talking way more broader than that. your thoughts? and one of britain's top bosses says that he wouldn't employ any of the governments in this country . so governments in this country. so i'm pondering tonight, do you reckon we've worst crop reckon we've got the worst crop of politicians right now all of politicians right now of all time , yes or no? and i bet, by time, yes or no? and i bet, by the way, you couldn't even pick many of them out in a line up. i'll be testing your knowledge later programme. we've later on in the programme. we've got come and more, but got it all to come and more, but let's bring ourselves up to speed tonight's latest speed with tonight's latest headunes speed with tonight's latest headlines as. michelle. thank you. good evening— headlines as. michelle. thank you. good evening to- : f thank you. good evening to you. well, the top— you. good evening to you. well, the top story— you. good evening to you. well, the top story tonight is that nearly— the top story tonight is that nearly woo— the top story tonight is that nearly 4000 migrant have crossed the teeth— nearly 4000 migrant have crossed the english channel in the month of the english channel in the month et tune,— the english channel in the month et tuhe, whteh— the english channel in the month of june, which is— the english channel in the month of june, which is the highest hehthty— of june, which is the highest monthly figure— of june, which is the highest monthly figure for five years, huehhg— monthly figure for five years, huehhg the— monthly figure for five years, pushing the total for the year

so pushing the total for the year to tet— pushing the total for the year to he te— pushing the total for the year so far to more— pushing the total for the year so far to more than 11,000. the figure— so far to more than 11,000. the theme eehee— so far to more than 11,000. the figure comes almost six months the— figure comes almost six months the tteht — figure comes almost six months after rishi sunak— figure comes almost six months after rishi sunak vowed to stop the teete— after rishi sunak vowed to stop the heats ee— after rishi sunak vowed to stop the boats as one— after rishi sunak vowed to stop the boats as one of his eehhet-e— the boats as one of his cabinet's chief objectives as wet. — cabinet's chief objectives as teeth the — cabinet's chief objectives as well. also in— cabinet's chief objectives as well. also in the— cabinet's chief objectives as well. also in the news today, there— well. also in the news today, there pett— well. also in the news today, drivers paid nearly £1 billion tet— drivers paid nearly £1 billion more for their— drivers paid nearly £1 billion more for their fuel at supermarket filling stations the— supermarket filling stations ettetthey— supermarket filling stations after they increased their prett— after they increased their profit margins. an investigation by the— profit margins. an investigation by the competition and markets huthehty— by the competition and markets huthehty hee— by the competition and markets authority has found that drivers pett— authority has found that drivers the th— authority has found that drivers the an extra— authority has found that drivers paid an extra £0.06 a litre for thet— paid an extra £0.06 a litre for thet. the— paid an extra £0.06 a litre for fuel. the chancellor now supporte— fuel. the chancellor now supports the— fuel. the chancellor now supports the idea that there eeutt— supports the idea that there eeutt he— supports the idea that there eeutt he eh— supports the idea that there could be an app , supports the idea that there could be an app, a supports the idea that there could be an app , a cheapest fuel could be an app, a cheapest fuel thtet— could be an app, a cheapest fuel finder website— could be an app, a cheapest fuel finder website even, which could help— finder website even, which could help motorists— finder website even, which could help motorists find the best and heet— help motorists find the best and heet thet— help motorists find the best and nearest fuel prices— help motorists find the best and nearest fuel prices on offer . nearest fuel prices on offer. hewethe— nearest fuel prices on offer. downing street— nearest fuel prices on offer. downing street insists discussions- downing street insists discussions on pay and eehttttehe— discussions on pay and conditions can't be held unless ethtee— conditions can't be held unless ethtee ete— conditions can't be held unless strikes are called— conditions can't be held unless strikes are called off. the hhtteh— strikes are called off. the british medical association says teeters— british medical association says doctors could— british medical association says doctors could continue to strike the— doctors could continue to strike the heet— doctors could continue to strike over the next few— doctors could continue to strike over the next few years if their demands— over the next few years if their demands aren't— over the next few years if their demands aren't met. junior teeters— demands aren't met. junior teeters ee— demands aren't met. junior doctors are planning a five day ethe— doctors are planning a five day strike action— doctors are planning a five day strike action from _ doctors are planning a five day strike action from the 13th to

the— strike action from the 13th to the teth— strike action from the 13th to the teeth et— strike action from the 13th to the 18th of july.— strike action from the 13th to the 18th of july. consultants are the 18th of july. consultants wetthe— the 18th of july. consultants are walking out— the 18th of july. consultants are walking out on the 20th and zet— are walking out on the 20th and ztet et— are walking out on the 20th and ztet et heet— are walking out on the 20th and 21st of next month— are walking out on the 20th and 21st of next month and rail heeeehgete— 21st of next month and rail passengers are— 21st of next month and rail passengers are being warned about— passengers are being warned about disruption as train ethere— about disruption as train drivers refuse- about disruption as train drivers refuse to work overtime . thte— drivers refuse to work overtime . thte heet, — drivers refuse to work overtime . this week, services with 16 teth— . this week, services with 16 train operators— . this week, services with 16 train operators will be running a tthttet— train operators will be running a limited service— train operators will be running a limited service from today uhttt— a limited service from today until saturday.— a limited service from today until saturday. as representatives continue their ttehute— representatives continue their ttehute ever— representatives continue their dispute over pay. aslef says its hehehte— dispute over pay. aslef says its hehehte et— dispute over pay. aslef says its members at 15— dispute over pay. aslef says its members at 15 train operators wttt— members at 15 train operators wttt etee— members at 15 train operators will also take— members at 15 train operators will also take part in industrial— will also take part in industrial action from the 17th to industrial action from the 17th te the— industrial action from the 17th te the net— industrial action from the 17th to the 22nd of— industrial action from the 17th to the 22nd of july. a distressing- to the 22nd of july. a distressing story now. a man has been— distressing story now. a man has been jailed— distressing story now. a man has been jailed for— distressing story now. a man has been jailed for life— distressing story now. a man has been jailed for life after strengthe— been jailed for life after strangling his wife and their the— strangling his wife and their two children— strangling his wife and their two children aged six and four teete— two children aged six and four years ett. — two children aged six and four yeete ett. ahe— two children aged six and four years old. and a— two children aged six and four years old. and a warning, the tettewhe— years old. and a warning, the following images may also be thetteeehe— following images may also be distressing. bodycam footage teteeeet— distressing. bodycam footage teteeeet hy— distressing. bodycam footage released by police shows sajid javid_ released by police shows sajid javid urging— released by police shows sajid javid urging police to shoot him at he— javid urging police to shoot him at he heme— javid urging police to shoot him at his home in— javid urging police to shoot him at his home in kettering. the 52 year— at his home in kettering. the 52 year ete— at his home in kettering. the 52 year ett hee— at his home in kettering. the 52 year old has been— at his home in kettering. the 52 year old has been ordered to serve— year old has been ordered to serve e— year old has been ordered to serve a minimum term of 40 years for serve a minimum term of 40 years

her tttthg— serve a minimum term of 40 years her tttthg hte— serve a minimum term of 40 years for killing his partner, andrew teete— for killing his partner, andrew hate the— for killing his partner, andrew isaac, and their— for killing his partner, andrew isaac, and their two children, teete— isaac, and their two children, jeeva the— isaac, and their two children, jeeva and janvi._ isaac, and their two children, jeeva and janvi. last december . jeeva and janvi. last december. new— jeeva and janvi. last december. new he— jeeva and janvi. last december. new h— jeeva and janvi. last december. now now in france,— jeeva and janvi. last december. now now in france, town halls ent— now now in france, town halls and huhtethet— now now in france, town halls and municipal buildings have been— and municipal buildings have been attacked— and municipal buildings have been attacked during six days of hete— been attacked during six days of hete teete— been attacked during six days of riots across the _ been attacked during six days of riots across the country . the riots across the country. the mayor— riots across the country. the have ent— riots across the country. the mayor and residents of one ethere— mayor and residents of one euhuth et— mayor and residents of one suburb of northern france in heeeh— suburb of northern france in person, came together in an anti vtetehee— person, came together in an anti vtetehee teth— person, came together in an anti violence rally where their town hatt— violence rally where their town hett het— violence rally where their town hall had been— violence rally where their town hall had been set— violence rally where their town hall had been set on fire by hetete— hall had been set on fire by hetete .— hall had been set on fire by rioters . more— hall had been set on fire by rioters . more than 100 arrests rioters. more than 100 arrests were made following the death of 70 were made following the death of to year— were made following the death of to veer ete— were made following the death of 70 year old pizza— were made following the death of 70 year old pizza delivery boy the— 70 year old pizza delivery boy nahel merzouk_ 70 year old pizza delivery boy nahel merzouk who was shot dead by tethe— nahel merzouk who was shot dead by ttettte pettee— nahel merzouk who was shot dead by traffic police in— nahel merzouk who was shot dead by traffic police in paris last heet— by traffic police in paris last week .— by traffic police in paris last week . the— by traffic police in paris last week . the president, by traffic police in paris last week. the president, emmanuel heeeh— week. the president, emmanuel heeeh ,— week. the president, emmanuel heeeh , hee— week. the president, emmanuel macron , has ordered a massive macron, has ordered a massive eettee— macron, has ordered a massive eettee heeehee— macron, has ordered a massive police presence remains on the streets,— police presence remains on the streets, hut— police presence remains on the streets, but france— streets, but france correspondent for the times, nette— correspondent for the times, david chazan_ correspondent for the times, david chazan ,_ correspondent for the times, david chazan , says things are david chazan, says things are etetthe— david chazan, says things are etetthg te— david chazan, says things are starting to calm _ david chazan, says things are starting to calm down. \tt:::t starting to calm down. not only did starting to calm down. not only the the— starting to calm down. not only did the arrests drop dramatically , but there was a dramatically, but there was a significant fall in violence and vandalism. there were still some trouble on the streets in cities like marseille , a little bit in like marseille, a little bit in lyon , and a few scuffles and

lyon, and a few scuffles and clashes in the suburbs of paris. but far less than before . and but far less than before. and that's the second right, second night running that we've seen such a decrease in the intensity of the violence. so the hope is now that these protests are beginning to die down. well, here at home, his zttzzitg "" g t: : well, here at home, his majesty, the king— here at home, his majesty, the king hee— here at home, his majesty, the king has been— here at home, his majesty, the king has been having his first hetyteet— king has been having his first holyrood week— king has been having his first holyrood week since his coronation. _ holyrood week since his coronation. charles was welcomed by eewet— coronation. charles was welcomed by ewte et— coronation. charles was welcomed by crowds at kinneil_ coronation. charles was welcomed by crowds at kinneil house, he-heee— by crowds at kinneil house, bo'ness falkirk,_ by crowds at kinneil house, bo'ness falkirk, the historic heme— bo'ness falkirk, the historic heehe et— bo'ness falkirk, the historic heehe et the— bo'ness falkirk, the historic home of the dukes of hamilton, among— home of the dukes of hamilton, ahehe theee— home of the dukes of hamilton, among those he— home of the dukes of hamilton, among those he greeted was he-heee— among those he greeted was he-heee tetr— among those he greeted was bo'ness fair queen, who was weathe— bo'ness fair queen, who was weehhe het— bo'ness fair queen, who was wearing her ceremonial robes and crew— wearing her ceremonial robes and etewh .— wearing her ceremonial robes and etewh . the— wearing her ceremonial robes and crown . the annual— wearing her ceremonial robes and crown . the annual tradition, crown. the annual tradition, the— crown. the annual tradition, etee thewh— crown. the annual tradition, also known as— crown. the annual tradition, also known as royal week, sees the heheeh— also known as royal week, sees the monarch immersing themselves in the monarch immersing themselves th seettteh— the monarch immersing themselves in scottish culture.— the monarch immersing themselves in scottish culture. later, king ehettee— in scottish culture. later, king ehettee wttt— in scottish culture. later, king charles will take— in scottish culture. later, king charles will take part in a ceremony where he'll be weeehtet— ceremony where he'll be presented with keys to the city. new— presented with keys to the city. new h— presented with keys to the city. new th e— presented with keys to the city. new th e eh — presented with keys to the city. now in a gb news— presented with keys to the city. now in a gb news exclusive, tethe— now in a gb news exclusive, tetehe tet— now in a gb news exclusive, former raf chief— now in a gb news exclusive, former raf chief of staff sir wteheet— former raf chief of staff sir michael graydon sits down with

thee— michael graydon sits down with wet farage— michael graydon sits down with wet twege te— michael graydon sits down with nigel farage to discuss the etete— nigel farage to discuss the etete et— nigel farage to discuss the state of britain's armed forces the— state of britain's armed forces the the— state of britain's armed forces and the threats— state of britain's armed forces and the threats they face. ' ”c: and the threats they face. are we epehtthg— and the threats they face. are we spending too— and the threats they face. are we spending too little money on defence? yes. and i think a lot of defence? yes. and i think a lot et peehte— defence? yes. and i think a lot et heeete hete— defence? yes. and i think a lot of people have begun- :"tt.t:i;?’ “in; and i think a lot of people have begun to eeehteeg— of people have begun to recognise it.— of people have begun to recognise it. i- of people have begun to recognise it. i mean, a number of recognise it. i mean, a number et hettttetehe— recognise it. i mean, a number of politicians have— recognise it. i mean, a number of politicians have said we ehewtt— of politicians have said we ehewtt he— of politicians have said we should be spending 3% given the circumstances,— should be spending 3% given the circumstances, it's— should be spending 3% given the circumstances, it's hard to say . hew— circumstances, it's hard to say . hew eh— circumstances, it's hard to say . hew you— circumstances, it's hard to say . how can you possibly , when you . how can you possibly, when you ethy— . how can you possibly, when you eetw eut— . how can you possibly, when you carry out reviews— . how can you possibly, when you carry out reviews ,_ . how can you possibly, when you carry out reviews , when things carry out reviews, when things eewht— carry out reviews, when things eewht wee-we— carry out reviews, when things around you've discussed georgia, wee-we— around you've discussed georgia, yew-we teet— around you've discussed georgia, yew-we twet ehehee— around you've discussed georgia, you've just crimea and all the teet— you've just crimea and all the teet et— you've just crimea and all the teet et ht— you've just crimea and all the teet et tt .— you've just crimea and all the rest of it. how— you've just crimea and all the rest of it. how is— you've just crimea and all the rest of it. how is it that you can continue— rest of it. how is it that you can continue to— rest of it. how is it that you can continue to address that etehteeh— can continue to address that problem, which— can continue to address that problem, which is a problem , problem, which is a problem, tet-e— problem, which is a problem, tet-e thee— problem, which is a problem, tet-e teee ht,— problem, which is a problem, let's face it, to— problem, which is a problem, let's face it, to our security or our freedom? - let's face it, to our security or our freedom? kathi“ tat?“ or our freedom? well, you can watch the full interview with sir michael graydon at 7:00 tonight on farage on tv online dab+ radio and the tune—in app. this is gb news. back now to dewbs& co . dewbs& co. thanks for that,

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don't what do you think i am? don't worry— what do you think i am? don't worry-it— what do you think i am? don't weww-tt. wheh- what do you think i am? don't worry it. when you get worry about it. when you get heme,— worry about it. when you get heme, twet— worry about it. when you get home, just-the- worry about it. when you get home, just the website and home, just go to the website and you home, just go to the website and wew wttt— home, just go to the website and wew wttt eee— home, just go to the website and wew wttt ht— home, just go to the website and you will see it there. but you will see it on there. but yes,— you will see it on there. but wee ewe— you will see it on there. but yes, our message- you will see it on there. but yes, our message is clear. do het— yes, our message is clear. do het tttt— yes, our message is clear. do het tttt eth— yes, our message is clear. do not kill all cash. _ yes, our message is clear. do not kill all cash. that is what we eew. — not kill all cash. that is what we eew. hew— not kill all cash. that is what we eew. hew te— not kill all cash. that is what we say. how do news? 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no,.was just— good. yeah. what we're all about then? no,.was just a- e: yeah. what we're all about then? were f then? no, it was just a comment. all right. i thought she was disagreeing-— ” g i thought she was disagreeing. thought she was disagreeing. i thought she was hewhg— disagreeing. i thought she was hewhe hehe— disagreeing. i thought she was having none of— disagreeing. i thought she was having none of the campaign. no, no, having none of the campaign. no, .— having none of the campaign. no, t-twet— having none of the campaign. no, t-twet eeewt— having none of the campaign. no, no, i-just about to— having none of the campaign. no, no, i just about to her no, i was just about to kick her ewt.— no, i was just about to kick her ewt. eeetee— no, i was just about to kick her out. ladies and— no, i was just about to kick her out. ladies and gents, do out. ladies and gents, and do the— out. ladies and gents, and do the-wet— out. ladies and gents, and do thte-twet-ehe- out. ladies and gents, and do this-just-me and. out. ladies and gents, and do. this-just-me and ben this calm. just with me and ben eet. — this calm. just with me and ben eet. hew— this calm. just with me and ben eet. hew eeet— this calm. just with me and ben obe. you can't. we'll find heeeett. — obe. you can't. we'll find herself. she's.— obe. you can't. we'll find herself. she's. she's allowed to etew— herself. she's. she's allowed to. etew—eeehhetgh. stay. she supports the campaign. i stay. she supports the campaign. t—the— stay. she supports the campaign. t—the eet.— stay. she supports the campaign. t—the eht. .- i got there in the end. i ewhheet— i got there in the end. i ewhheet the— i got there in the end. i support the campaign. um, i tee-t— support the campaign. um, i teh-t thew— support the campaign. um, i don't know how— support the campaign. um, i don't know how many people have support the campaign. um, i don't kthat,|ow many people have support the campaign. um, i don't kthat, butmany people have support the campaign. um, i don't kthat, but ilany people have support the campaign. um, i don't kthat, but i will.)eople have support the campaign. um, i don't kthat, but i will. i'll)le have signed that, but i will. i'll give— signed that, but i will. i'll give yew— signed that, but i will. i'll give you update as well by give you an update as well by the eet— give you an update as well by the end-show- give you an update as well by the end-show as- give you an update as well by

the end show as to where the end of the show as to where we et— the end of the show as to where we are at-have_ the end of the show as to where we are at-have you- the end of the show as to where we are at have you seen the we are at now. have you seen the tetewe— we are at now. have you seen the tetewe the— we are at now. have you seen the news today? the tories, a group of news today? the tories, a group et-ahwwew— news today? the tories, a group et-ahwwew thew-we- news today? the tories, a group of anyway, they've come of them. anyway, they've come teeethee— of them. anyway, they've come tegethee heee — of them. anyway, they've come together here and— of them. anyway, they've come together here and very creatively _ together here and very creatively with wedding. creatively with their wedding. thew-we— creatively with their wedding. i thew-we—the they've named themselves the new eeheewettwee— they've named themselves the new conservatives i bet _ they've named themselves the new conservatives bet spent conservatives. i bet they spent a conservatives. i bet they spent -eh the— conservatives. i bet they spent a-on the branding. a few quid on the branding theee,— a few quid on the branding theee-te- a few quid on the branding. there,-to-anyway, there, i've got to say. anyway, thew— there, i've got to say. anyway, thew-eeehe— there, i've got to say. anyway, thew-eeehe ewt- there, i've got to say. anyway, they come out with 12 they have come out with a 12 heht— they have come out with a 12 point migration— they have come out with a 12 point migration if you point migration plan. if you tee-t— point migration plan. if you tent—ht- point migration plan. if you teh-t—tt te- point migration plan. if you| don't—it is, worry point migration plan. if you- don't_it is, worry not don't know what it is, worry not heewee— don't know what it is, worry not heewee .— don't know what it is, worry not because i shall— don't know what it is, worry not because i shall share it with yew.— because i shall share it with wew. hew— because i shall share it with wew. wew ee— because i shall share it with you. now are you- because i shall share it with you. now are you ready? are you ettthe—tz— you. now are you ready? are you sitting—12 points.- sitting comfortably 12 points. steet— sitting comfortably 12 points. sheet—twee- sitting comfortably 12 points. start—raise thej start like this one. raise the meth— start like this one. raise the hath-week- start like this one. raise thei main -work-salary main skilled work visa salary theeehett— main skilled work visa salary threshold to— main skilled work visa salary threshold to £38,000 a year to 5% threshold to £38,000 a year to se. eee— threshold to £38,000 a year to se. eee eh— threshold to £38,000 a year to 5% cap on social— threshold to £38,000 a year to 5% cap on social housing to hen—wh— 5% cap on social housing to non—uk nationals. three raise thehteeetteh— non—uk nationals. three raise immigration health surcharge to theee— immigration health surcharge to woo hee— immigration health surcharge to £2,700 per person— immigration health surcharge to £2,700 per person a year for all 20,000— £2,700 per person a year for all zeoeo eee— £2,700 per person a year for all zeoeo eee eh— £2,700 per person a year for all 20,000 cap on refugees accepted for 20,000 cap on refugees accepted tee eeeettte — 20,000 cap on refugees accepted for resettle moment— 20,000 cap on refugees accepted for resettle moment five cap on hwhehttw— for resettle moment five cap on humanity schemes— for resettle moment five cap on humanity schemes such as whethe— humanity schemes such as ukraine, afghanistan and hong heee.— ukraine, afghanistan and hong heee. sh— ukraine, afghanistan and hong tehg. sh hee— ukraine, afghanistan and hong kong. six ban graduates of ete— kong. six ban graduates of master students from bringing teehttw— master students from bringing teehttw te— master students from bringing teehttw te the— master students from bringing family to the uk.— master students from bringing family to the uk. are you keeping— family to the uk. are you keeping up?— family to the uk. are you keeping up? i'm going to test you— keeping up? i'm going to test wew et— keeping up? i'm going to test wew at the— keeping up? i'm going to test you at the end.— keeping up? i'm going to test you at the end. seven. no rights for you at the end. seven. no rights tee eeetwete— you at the end. seven. no rights for graduate students to stay in the wt— for graduate students to stay in the we tee— for graduate students to stay in the uk for two— for graduate students to stay in the uk for two years after their ttght— the uk for two years after their course. eight reserve university etwtw— course. eight reserve university etwtw vtewe— course. eight reserve university etwtw tee— course. eight reserve university study visas for the _ course. eight reserve university study visas for the brightest international—

study visas for the brightest international students and exetwte— international students and exclude the _ international students and exclude the worst universities teem — exclude the worst universities from eligibility.— exclude the worst universities from eligibility. nine raise the ehhtehweh— from eligibility. nine raise the minimum combined income theeehett— minimum combined income threshold to— minimum combined income threshold to £26,200 for eeeheeethe — threshold to £26,200 for eeeheeethg e— threshold to £26,200 for sponsoring a spouse and the eeetetehweh— sponsoring a spouse and the minimum language requirement. ten minimum language requirement. teh eteeet— minimum language requirement. ten closed temporary schemes geehthe— ten closed temporary schemes granting eligibility for worker weee— granting eligibility for worker te— granting eligibility for worker visas to care— granting eligibility for worker visas to care workers and social weeeeet h— visas to care workers and social care workers. 11 past and theteheht— care workers. 11 past and implement the provisions of the teeth— implement the provisions of the illegal migration— implement the provisions of the illegal migration bill. and last but illegal migration bill. and last hwt het— illegal migration bill. and last but not least,— illegal migration bill. and last but not least, number 12. we got theee— but not least, number 12. we got theee h— but not least, number 12. we got theee th the— but not least, number 12. we got there in the end— but not least, number 12. we got there in the end migrate an etweew— there in the end migrate an advisory committee to report on the etteete— advisory committee to report on the effects of— advisory committee to report on the effects of migration and hewehe— the effects of migration and hewehg eet— the effects of migration and housing and public services is whet-t— housing and public services is whet-t yew— housing and public services is what'd you make— housing and public services is what'd you make of them onions thee— what'd you make of them onions theh everybody-— what'd you make of them onions then everybody. ben habib, what do then everybody. ben habib, what te yew— then everybody. ben habib, what te wew hete— then everybody. ben habib, what te wew mete et— then everybody. ben habib, what do you make of this whole thing? i do you make of this whole thing? . eheeh— do you make of this whole thing? i mean, there's— do you make of this whole thing? i mean, there's much to go i mean, there's so much to go ewt— i mean, there's so much to go ewt heee.— i mean, there's so much to go ewt heee. et— i mean, there's so much to go out here. of course, the 12 hehte— out here. of course, the 12 hehte thet— out here. of course, the 12 points that we've just outlined, whethee— points that we've just outlined, whethee-thew— points that we've just outlined, whether-they will- points that we've just outlined, whether they will work or whether or not they will work or note— whether or not they will work or eet—het— whether or not they will work or eet—eet h- whether or not they will work or not,_not in-firstl not, whether or not in the first theee,— not, whether or not in the first theee—heee- not, whether or not in the first place,_idea that. place, it's a good idea that wewe— place, it's a good idea that wew-we-eet— place, it's a good idea that you've-got this- place, it's a good idea that you've got this kind you've now got this kind of heeetewt— you've now got this kind of breakout-and- you've now got this kind of. breakout-and-that breakout group. and what that eewe— breakout group. and what that eewe eeewt— breakout group. and what that says about the _ breakout group. and what that says about the tories as well hete— says about the tories as well mete et— says about the tories as well mete et a,— says about the tories as well make of it, pick— says about the tories as well make of it, pick up any of those eehte— make of it, pick up any of those hemtelemwthhe— make of it, pick up any of those points anything else to do points or anything else to do wtth— points or anything else to do wtth ht— points or anything else to do wtth tt-wew— points or anything else to do with it-you will.- with it that you will. well, ttt— with it that you will. well, i'll—political. i'll i'll take the political eeht— i'll i'll take the political eeht-tt-e- i'll i'll take the political point-it's alwaysl point first. it's always interesting to me when you get conservative party mps speaking,

what as what we would all regard as common nothing common sense. i mean nothing there. i can't imagine anyone in there. i can't imagine anyone in the united kingdom would disagree of those disagree a lot with any of those points. make more points. basically make it more challenging come the challenging to come into the country you're in the country and once you're in the country and once you're in the country less benefits. is country have less benefits. is you know, british citizens you know, than british citizens makes but i find makes perfect sense. but i find it really peculiar when conservative mps feel the need to espouse this to the public and not to be doing it behind closed doors to the cabinet office number ten and trying to get the government to actually pivot and do what they promised in the 2019 manifesto, which was to introduce a based to introduce a skills based immigration policy. that's a key point immigration policy. that's a key heht emet— immigration policy. that's a key hemt emt ee— immigration policy. that's a key point and one that— immigration policy. that's a key point and one that i— g”? est" �*f-e' that's a key point and one that i thought mweett— point and one that i thought mweett whem— point and one that i thought myself when i— point and one that i thought myself when i saw this. so what do myself when i saw this. so what te yew— myself when i saw this. so what te wew thht— myself when i saw this. so what te wew thtmt te— myself when i saw this. so what do you think is behind that? wett— do you think is behind that? wett. the— do you think is behind that? well, the new— do you think is behind that? well, the new conservatives are all the new conservatives from the 2019 intake. the the 2017 2019 intake. the majority of them sit on razor thin margins in their own seats . they're almost certainly going to be booted out at the next election. and i think this is them coming together, trying to make the conservative case in the absence of the conservative party actually doing it for them

so that they can garner support from their local constituents. but what they should do. my advice to these new conservatives is if they are concerned lviv leave the conservative party because the conservative party because the conservative party because the conservative party is not conservative and the conservative party has championed the control of immigration, but actually done the opposite in office. it was about a quarter of a million a year when david cameron came to office, it rose to 350,000 net immigration before the pandemic. and now we've had the highest figure in history , a net figure in history, a net 600,000. if they really believe in these values, if they really believe in conservative values , believe in conservative values, and they should go on to articulate, you know, perhaps a broader agenda, they should cross the floor. and there's a number of parties they could join. they could join the dup, they could join reclaim them, they could join reclaim them, they join reform uk, or they could join reform uk, or they could join reform uk, or they could join reform uk, or they could set up their own thing. but if they really care about the country, it's time to stop putting the conservative

party first and national party first and put national interest first. do something bold. and garner bold. don't try and garner support from your constituents . support from your constituents. doing exactly what conservative party typically do, which is play party typically do, which is play the 24 hour news cycle. say what you think people want to hean what you think people want to hear, but actually do the opposite. i've got a lot to say in opposite. i've got a lot to say he eemeehee— opposite. i've got a lot to say he eeeemeeh te— opposite. i've got a lot to say in response to that. - i've got a lot to say in response to that. but before i've got a lot to say iido,;ponse to that. but before i've got a lot to say iido, bring; to that. but before i've got a lot to say iido, bring j0) that. but before i've got a lot to say iido, bring jo in,iat. but before i've got a lot to say iido, bring jo in, well, it before i've got a lot to say iido, bring jo in, well, the afore i do, bring jo in, well, the wee— i do, bring jo in, well, the ttee thet— i do, bring jo in, well, the idea that-going- i do, bring jo in, well, the idea that going to cut idea that you're going to cut emet— idea that you're going to cut eet-temheeew- idea that you're going to cut and temporary visas for and stop temporary visas for care workers, i'd— and stop temporary visas for care workers, i'd love to know whe— care workers, i'd love to know whe theee— care workers, i'd love to know whe theee mew— care workers, i'd love to know who these new conservatives thht— who these new conservatives thtmt wtt— who these new conservatives think will take— who these new conservatives think will take up the desperate, _ think will take up the desperate, desperate shortage of care workers. i— desperate, desperate shortage of care workers. " cc: care workers. i mean, lee anderson, the vice chair of the conservative party, apparently is sick , so wasn't able to be at is sick, so wasn't able to be at the launch of this new party. it's been eating too much cat teet. — it's been eating too much cat teet. wett— it's been eating too much cat food. well, some— it's been eating too much cat food. g food. well, some might say he's been eating too much cat food. but, you know, is he going to say no to his six figure salary that he gets from gb news? is he going to go work for £10 an going to go and work for £10 an hour working in a care home? i doubt it is. miriam cates going to go and work in a care home? it the price of fish. well, it is the price of fish. well, so it is the price of fish. well, ee-wew—

it is the price of fish. well, ee-wew eewhe- it is the price of fish. well, so you saying that unless so are you saying that unless you— so are you saying that unless yew-weweeett-whl so are you saying that unless. you -yourself-up your you would yourself give up your job you would yourself give up your job—work— you would yourself give up your jet—weet tee- job and go and work for a temee— job and go and work for a temee yew— job and go and work for a tenner, you shouldn't have a -eewme- tenner, you shouldn't have a view. -saying is,i tenner, you shouldn't have a. view. -saying is, who tenner, you shouldn't have a- view. -saying is, who do view. what i'm saying is, who do they think is going to fill these vacancies that are needed now, tonight, tomorrow morning, these vacancies that are needed now,willight, tomorrow morning, these vacancies that are needed now,willight, t0ihugen morning, these vacancies that are needed now,willight, t0ihuge impact ng, these vacancies that are needed now,willight, t0ihuge impact on that will have a huge impact on people care homes, on people people in care homes, on people being able be discharged from being able to be discharged from hospital, go home, hospital, to be able to go home, you stop the temporary you know, to stop the temporary visas is utterly ridiculous. so they would argue to , built ” t: f so they would argue to that. i saw thetem — they would argue to that. i saw thetem eetee.— they would argue to that. i saw miriam cates. i— they would argue to that. i saw miriam cates. i think it was tetthe— miriam cates. i think it was talking about— miriam cates. i think it was talking about this this morning . she— talking about this this morning . she wewtt— talking about this this morning . she would argue or they would eeewe— . she would argue or they would argue collectively— . she would argue or they would argue collectively that what thew-ee— argue collectively that what thew-ee-te — argue collectively that what thew-ee-te te- argue collectively that what. they're -to do .when argue collectively that what- they're-to do .when to they're trying to do and when to wewe— they're trying to do and when to your eweetteh— they're trying to do and when to your question, they would say thet— your question, they would say thet teeet— your question, they would say that local people— your question, they would say that local people would take theee— that local people would take theee-ewt— that local people would take those - but they - that local people would take those but they clearly those jobs, but they clearly weht — those jobs, but they clearly went the— those jobs, but they clearly won't. and they- those jobs, but they clearly won't. t: f l won't. and they clearly aren't because not everybody is cut out to be a carer. and frankly , not to be a carer. and frankly, not everybody is willing to do that job. it's really hard work. it's very very low paid. it's very, very low paid. it's terrible. jo isn't isn't it etmeet— terrible. jo isn't isn't it etmeet tew— terrible. jo isn't isn't it almost ray ,- jo isn't isn't it almost ray , racist to suggest almost ray, racist to suggest thet— almost ray, racist to suggest thet thetteh— almost ray, racist to suggest that english british people ehewtth-t— that english british people shouldn't fill— that english british people shouldn't fill these jobs? and we ehewtt— shouldn't fill these jobs? and we should we— shouldn't fill these jobs? and we should we should import cheap tehewe— we should we should import cheap tehewe thet— we should we should import cheap labour that we— we should we should import cheap labour that we can— we should we should import cheap labour that we can effectively them— labour that we can effectively them we— labour that we can effectively then we have— labour that we can effectively then we have a— labour that we can effectively then we have a crisis . �*"

then we have a crisis. if you were in perpetual crisis in that case. but then get people teehet— case. but then get people teehet upe— f but then get people trained up, make it more attractive. _ trained up, make it more attractive. well, that's what we hewe — attractive. well, that's what we hewe te — attractive. well, that's what we hewe te te. — attractive. well, that's what we hewe te the we— attractive. well, that's what we have to do. we need a proper emhtewmemt. — have to do. we need a proper employment. we- have to do. we need a proper employment. �*vw�*tz; have to do. we need a proper employment. ego have to do. we need a proper employment. git d b employment. we have got enough people willing to do it and willing to take it. but many, many people have given up on those sort of jobs because it's not reliable. it's zero hours contract. you know, why wouldn't you? you go and get the same money. you work in a supermarket . it yeah but don't forget theweh— . it yeah but don't forget theweh heet— it yeah but don't forget though part making . it yeah but don't forget- though part-making the though part of this making the eetete— though part of this making the eetete te— though part of this making the crisis is when— though part of this making the crisis is when we— though part of this making the crisis is when we sacked alert i thht— crisis is when we sacked alert i thtmt ht— crisis is when we sacked alert i thtmt t e— crisis is when we sacked alert i think it was about— crisis is when we sacked alert i think it was about 30,000 care weeeeet— think it was about 30,000 care workers because _ think it was about 30,000 care workers because they wouldn't be the-eetet— workers because they wouldn't be tmteetet wtth— workers because they wouldn't be tmteetet wtth e— workers because they wouldn't be injected with a covid vaccine. tememhee— injected with a covid vaccine. remember that?— injected with a covid vaccine. remember that? yeah that's one of remember that? yeah that's one et the— remember that? yeah that's one of the reasons— remember that? yeah that's one of the reasons we've got this eetete— of the reasons we've got this eetete h. — of the reasons we've got this eetete h. ht— of the reasons we've got this crisis in. it may— of the reasons we've got this crisis in. l crisis in. it may well be one of the reasons, but the other reason is that no government successive governments right back blair and everyone back to tony blair and everyone since has failed to deal with the issue of social care . and the issue of social care. and thatis the issue of social care. and that is the biggest single crisis facing the health service because you've got elderly people or or vulnerable people who desperately need care. they're not getting it. we

haven't got the staff there called very unpleasantly bed blockers, but we all know what that means . and, you know, that means. and, you know, i speak as someone who's got a mother in a care home. it's costing an absolute fortune. and i know that the carers are not getting anywhere near what they should. it's the same with nurseries as— should. it's the same with nurseries as well. - : it's the same with nurseries as well. if you put wewe— nurseries as well. if you put wewe thet— nurseries as well. if you put your the h— nurseries as well. if you put your the h e— nurseries as well. if you put your kid in a nursery as i do, you— your kid in a nursery as i do, you pay— your kid in a nursery as i do, wew pay em— your kid in a nursery as i do, you pay an absolute fortune. them— you pay an absolute fortune. them when— you pay an absolute fortune. then when you— you pay an absolute fortune. then when you talk to the weeeeet wew — then when you talk to the workers, you find out that thew-ee— workers, you find out that thew-ee eh— workers, you find out that they're on minimum wage. you thet,— they're on minimum wage. you thht, why— they're on minimum wage. you thht, wby te— they're on minimum wage. you think, why is all— they're on minimum wage. you think, why is all this cash going— think, why is all this cash going-i- think, why is all this cash. eetme-t-thht think, why is all this cash- going-i-think we going anyway? i don't think we wetwe— going anyway? i don't think we wetwe-eheweh— going anyway? i don't think we value-enough in- going anyway? i don't think we value enough in this value carers enough in this eewmtew— value carers enough in this eewmtew-eet- value carers enough in this country.-ask me,- value carers enough in this country. ask me, want country. if you ask me, i want to country. if you ask me, i want te met— country. if you ask me, i want te htet heet— country. if you ask me, i want to pick back on— country. if you ask me, i want to pick back on your point about when— to pick back on your point about when yew— to pick back on your point about when yew eey— to pick back on your point about when you say leave the conservatives - when you say leave the conservatives because they're met— conservatives because they're met teete— conservatives because they're not leave the— conservatives because they're not leave the conservative party heeeee— because they're not conservatives. because they're not conservatives party entity conservative party is an entity mete— conservative party is an entity made-course, by- conservative party is an entity made course, by its made up, of course, by its pebble-— made up, of course, by its eeewtelwhe- made up, of course, by its people..who is- made up, of course, by its people. who is it people. so who is it specifically- people. so who is it specifically saying specifically that you're saying is-conservative?- specifically that you're saying is conservative? it's not is not conservative? it's not the— is not conservative? it's not the ehtttw— is not conservative? it's not the ehtttw te— is not conservative? it's not the entity, is it?— is not conservative? it's not the entity, is it? it's the pebble— the entity, is it? it's the people within- the entity, is it? it's the people within it. conservative conservatism, i think, is understood broadly as being reduced state interference , low reduced state interference, low taxation, the creation of aspiration , equal opportunity

aspiration, equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes is the avoidance of the creation of a dependency state. weaning people off that dependency and moving away from being a nanny state. none of these things, none of these things you would recognise lies in the current conservative party . but is it conservative party. but is it all of conservative party. but is it ett et theee— conservative party. but is it all of those things?- conservative party. but is it all of those things? if- all of those things? if irrespective - all of those things? if irrespective of current economic ettmete — irrespective of current economic ettmete .— irrespective of current economic climate , there's— irrespective of current economic climate , there's never an excuse climate, there's never an excuse eheee— climate, there's never an excuse eheee te— climate, there's never an excuse eheee te ewe— climate, there's never an excuse eeeeeh te give we— climate, there's never an excuse choose to give up on goods sound hettetee— choose to give up on goods sound policies because— choose to give up on goods sound policies because you're hitting a policies because you're hitting e ett— policies because you're hitting e htt et— policies because you're hitting e htt et e— policies because you're hitting a bit of a road— policies because you're hitting a bit of a road bump . a bit of a road bump. the reason we're hitting it was much more than a road bump. the reason we're in economic difficulties is because we've had 25 years of virtual , non—stop, ever virtual, non—stop, ever increasing socialism within the united kingdom. and we have eventually .run out of the ability to borrow . we've run out ability to borrow. we've run out of the ability to tax . and a lot of the ability to tax. and a lot of the ability to tax. and a lot of that has happened under the conservative government. and we've talked about the labour market. we've talked about how it doesn't work well, it it doesn't pay to work well, it doesn't to work part doesn't pay to work in part because too high and

because taxes are too high and you can see that because there are 5.9 million people now on some form of universal credit or another socialism, we'd have social housing. i mean, these people— social housing. i mean, these heeete ee— social housing. i mean, these people are talking— f g i mean, these people are talking about cutting eeetet— people are talking about cutting social housing— people are talking about cutting social housing or— people are talking about cutting social housing or putting a cap on. social housing or putting a cap theee— social housing or putting a cap theee-tee— social housing or putting a cap on. there for immigrants, on. there is no for immigrants, for on. there is no for immigrants, tee-whe— on. there is no for immigrants, tee-whe eeme— on. there is no for immigrants, for-who come to- for people who come to the eewmtew — for people who come to the country. that's— for people who come to the country. for people who come to the- country. that's what-say. country. that's what they say. but there is no— country. that's what they say. but there is no social- country. but there is no social housing. the— but there is no social housing. the pebble— but there is no social housing. the teeth whe— but there is no social housing. and people who are doing these mmmwm— and people who are doing these minimum-jobs— and people who are doing these minimum -jobs or- and people who are doing these minimum jobs or zero hours, minimum wage jobs or zero hours, they— minimum wage jobs or zero hours, they eem-t— minimum wage jobs or zero hours, they eem-t-te— minimum wage jobs or zero hours, they eem-t-te hey— minimum wage jobs or zero hours, they can't to pay the they can't afford to pay the em. — they can't afford to pay the em. -e- they can't afford to pay the em. -e good- they can't afford to pay the- rent. -a good country? rent. where's a good country? that's example of that's a great example of socialism, having really socialism, having worked really well financially. well, you don't well financially. well, you tent-he- well financially. well, you don't-be socialist.| well financially. well, you. don't-be socialist. you don't have to be socialist. you -eyee twet- don't have to be socialist. you can you've just said if can actually you've just said if we het— can actually you've just said if we had socialism,— can actually you've just said if we had socialism, then we would hete— we had socialism, then we would hewe-tee— we had socialism, then we would have -for-like. have things, for example, like eeetet—tm- have things, for example, like social—i'm just. social housing. so i'm just asking who is go to asking like, who is your go to country that hold? well, i country that you hold? well, i think i think the— f 3“ well,i think i think the scandinavian eewteee— think i think the scandinavian countries have— think i think the scandinavian countries have got a much better etehteet— countries have got a much better standard-social— countries have got a much better standard social care, social standard of social care, social ewepeet— standard of social care, social ewepeet, heetth— standard of social care, social support, health and education etewetweee— support, health and education etewetweee .— support, health and education structures . but— support, health and education structures . but of course structures. but of course they-we — structures. but of course they-we eet— structures. but of course they've got very high taxes . they've got very high taxes. wett— they've got very high taxes. wett. whet— they've got very high taxes. well, what do— they've got very high taxes. well, what do you- they've got very high taxes. well, what do you make to all of that? joe says, if we had socialism, perhaps we might be we're better off. i would say we probably little bit skint, probably be a little bit skint, but whatever your view is, many

would say that actually, even if but whatever your view is, many wou are ay that actually, even if but whatever your view is, many wou are a' that actually, even if but whatever your view is, many wou are a capitalist,illy, even if but whatever your view is, many wou are a capitalist, something you are a capitalist, something is going catastroph radically wrong society right now, wrong in society right now, isn't it? what though, is the answer? is it the new conservatives are these people just lacking chops , do you just lacking chops, do you think, to ben habib's point, that they should go across the floor, set up on their own, strike out as independents or join a new party or what? you tell me also , by the end of the tell me also, by the end of the show, i want to talk about today's crop of politicians. i want know, do you think they want to know, do you think they are used to be? i'm are what they used to be? i'm going be testing you and going to be testing you and i don't want any googling, but my first you is this who is first test to you is this who is the education secretary in this country who is the shadow country and who is the shadow education give education secretary? give me your google it. your answers. do not google it. i know if you've been i will know if you've been googung i will know if you've been googling it. i've got lots coming up, not least the answer to two. don't to that. see you in two. don't be googling it. you either. i know who it is

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hello radio. - . hello there, teete. — i hello there, i'm radio. hello there, i'm michelle - hello there, i'm michelle hewheeey— - hello there, i'm michelle hewheeey emet— . hello there, i'm michelle dewberry and i'm— hello there, i'm michelle dewberry and i'm with you until hoo— dewberry and i'm with you until 7:00 alongside— dewberry and i'm with you until 7:00 alongside me, former brexit party— 7:00 alongside me, former brexit heety wtt— 7:00 alongside me, former brexit heety wth emet— 7:00 alongside me, former brexit party mep and the— 7:00 alongside me, former brexit party mep and the ceo of first heeheety— party mep and the ceo of first heeeeety eeewee— party mep and the ceo of first property group, ben habib, and the hetttteet— property group, ben habib, and the political commentator joe hhttttee— the political commentator joe phillips. throughout my heeeeemme— phillips. throughout my programme into all programme tonight into all the tweete— programme tonight into all the breaks,-little- programme tonight into all the breaks,-little test- programme tonight into all the breaks, little test for breaks, i got a little test for you— breaks, i got a little test for you guys— breaks, i got a little test for yew ewye et— breaks, i got a little test for you guys at home because towards the emet— you guys at home because towards the end et— you guys at home because towards the end of programme, one of the end of the programme, one of hetteh-e— the end of the programme, one of hetteh-e heet— the end of the programme, one of britain's best businessmen says thet— britain's best businessmen says thetlwewttm-t— britain's best businessmen says that wouldn't employ any . that he wouldn't employ any. heetty— that he wouldn't employ any. petty-et— that he wouldn't employ any. heetty-et the - that he wouldn't employ any. pretty of the government pretty much of the government tetey— pretty much of the government tetey-te— pretty much of the government tetey-te they-ee- pretty much of the government today is they're not a today reckons is they're not a heteh— today reckons is they're not a heteh em— today reckons is they're not a patch on politicians used to patch on how politicians used to be. patch on how politicians used to heleeetem— patch on how politicians used to be.ireckon most— patch on how politicians used to be. reckon most people be. i reckon most people eewtee-t— be. i reckon most people couldn't pick— be. i reckon most people couldn't pick out most politicians— couldn't pick out most politicians in- couldn't pick out most politicians in a line up, quite teemtty— politicians in a line up, quite teemtty. se— politicians in a line up, quite frankly. so before the break i eetet— frankly. so before the break i eetet yew— frankly. so before the break i asked you who— frankly. so before the break i asked you who is— frankly. so before the break i asked you who is the education eeeeeteey— asked you who is the education eeeeeteey h— asked you who is the education secretary in this— asked you who is the education secretary in this country and whe— secretary in this country and whe te— secretary in this country and whe he the— secretary in this country and who is the shadow education seeeeteeye— who is the shadow education seeeeteeye .— who is the shadow education secretary? i asked you to get yewe— secretary? i asked you to get yewe emette— secretary? i asked you to get your emails coming in. nick eeye— your emails coming in. nick eeye .— your emails coming in. nick eeye, t thew— your emails coming in. nick says, i know the— your emails coming in. nick says, i know the answer. well, thet-e— says, i know the answer. well, that's fascinating,— says, i know the answer. well, that's fascinating, nick, but you— that's fascinating, nick, but yew them-t— that's fascinating, nick, but you didn't actually include the answer. brilliant— you didn't actually include the answer. ll however, mark answer. brilliant. however, mark eeye— answer. brilliant. however, mark eeyethe— answer. brilliant. however, mark says the conservative _ answer. ll however, mark says the conservative minister for says the conservative minister tee etweettem— says the conservative minister for education is— says the conservative minister for education is koko the clown emet— for education is koko the clown met the— for education is koko the clown and the shadow— for education is koko the clown and the shadow one is ronald wehemett— and the shadow one is ronald wehemett .— and the shadow one is ronald mcdonald . am— and the shadow one is ronald mcdonald . am i— and the shadow one is ronald mcdonald . am i close? i don't mcdonald. am i close? i don't thht— mcdonald. am i close? i don't thtmt yew-ee— mcdonald. am i close? i don't think you're far—

mcdonald. am i close? i don't think you're far off, quite teemtty— think you're far off, quite teemtty. ee— think you're far off, quite frankly. so many people are eetthe— frankly. so many people are eettme h— frankly. so many people are getting in touch— frankly. so many people are getting in touch and saying thet,— getting in touch and saying thet, me— getting in touch and saying thet, they— getting in touch and saying that, no, they don't know either of that, no, they don't know either et them.— that, no, they don't know either et them. seme— that, no, they don't know either of them. some of— that, no, they don't know either of them. some of them saying thet— of them. some of them saying thet .— of them. some of them saying thet , yee— of them. some of them saying thet , yee, yew— of them. some of them saying that, yes, you do— of them. some of them saying that , yes, you do know the that, yes, you do know the eweeemt— that, yes, you do know the current one,— that, yes, you do know the current one, the- that, yes, you do know the current one, the tory one, but you— current one, the tory one, but yew eem-t— current one, the tory one, but yew eem-t thew— current one, the tory one, but you don't know the labour one. a eewtete— you don't know the labour one. a eewete et— you don't know the labour one. a eewete et pebble— you don't know the labour one. a couple of people saying actually they— couple of people saying actually they teet— couple of people saying actually they teet e— couple of people saying actually they feel a little— couple of people saying actually they feel a little bit embarrassed that they don't thew. — embarrassed that they don't thew. wett— embarrassed that they don't know. well, let— embarrassed that they don't know. well, let me tell you the.— know. well, let me tell you thtelyew— know. well, let me tell you this..you don't- know. well, let me tell you this. you don't know who the this. if you don't know who the who:— this. if you don't know who the whe, the— this. if you don't know who the who, the education minister is in who, the education minister is h-eewmtey— who, the education minister is h-eewmtey ee— who, the education minister is in .country or the - who, the education minister is in country or the shadow in this country or the shadow ehe—the- in this country or the shadow ehe—thte te- in this country or the shadow one,_this to you.| one, i would put this to you. i eem-t— one, i would put this to you. i tem-t thht— one, i would put this to you. i don't think it's— one, i would put this to you. i don't think it's a— one, i would put this to you. i don't think it's a failing with you— don't think it's a failing with yewlyewe— don't think it's a failing with you your memory. think it's you or your memory. i think it's a you or your memory. i think it's e-the— you or your memory. i think it's a-the politicians- a failing of the politicians themselves.— a failing of the politicians themselves. they are not themselves. if they are not metehte— themselves. if they are not notable, .they're - themselves. if they are not notable, they're be notable, if they're cannot be wetee— notable, if they're cannot be ptetet ewt— notable, if they're cannot be picked out-line - notable, if they're cannot be picked out line up, then to picked out of a line up, then to me— picked out of a line up, then to me ht— picked out of a line up, then to me t he— picked out of a line up, then to me it is something— picked out of a line up, then to me it is something wrong with them. — me it is something wrong with them. he— me it is something wrong with them. he yew— me it is something wrong with them. do you know both of them , them. do you know both of them, heme — them. do you know both of them, heme tm— them. do you know both of them, ben? i'm afraid— them. do you know both of them, ben? i'm afraid i— them. do you know both of them, ben? i'm afraid i don't.- them. do you know both of them, ben? i'm afraid i don't. i- them. do you know both of them, ben? c act l ben? i'm afraid i don't. i was neither . don't worry. we neither of them. don't worry. we eem-t— neither of them. don't worry. we tem-t thew. — neither of them. don't worry. we tem-t thew. .— neither of them. don't worry. we tem-t thew. . my— neither of them. don't worry. we don't know. i my mind's gone. i can't remember who i think. it's a it's a young man for the conservatives and i can't de—man for the tories. i sort of know who's who. gillian keegan and hetteet— who's who. gillian keegan and bridget phillipson_ who's who. gillian keegan and bridget phillipson . - gillian keegan and bridget phillipson . �*ftt�*tzgl bridget phillipson. well, i've got bridget phillipson. well, i've eet te— bridget phillipson. well, i've eet te eey— bridget phillipson. well, i've eet te eey. yee— bridget phillipson. well, i've got to say, joe phillips is absolutely right on both of them. you've smashed it. i know,

but i'm a political— them. you've smashed it. i know, but i'm a political nerd.- /t:::t. : l iknow, but i'm a political nerd. but emet— but i'm a political nerd. but emt .— but i'm a political nerd. but emt . wewtet— but i'm a political nerd. but and i would. you'd expect me to thew,— and i would. you'd expect me to thew, emet— and i would. you'd expect me to thew, emt .— and i would. you'd expect me to know, and i think— and i would. you'd expect me to know, and i think you're eheetwtety— know, and i think you're absolutely right. but part of the heehtem— absolutely right. but part of the problem is— absolutely right. but part of the problem is we've got a eehetemt— the problem is we've got a constant churn. _ the problem is we've got a constant churn. yes. you know, het— constant churn. yes. you know, we've had something like 12 hewehe— we've had something like 12 housing ministers in ten years. as housing ministers in ten years. we yew— housing ministers in ten years. we yew thew,— housing ministers in ten years. as you know, theresa coffey, one mhwte— as you know, theresa coffey, one mtmwte ehe-e— as you know, theresa coffey, one minute she's secretary of state for minute she's secretary of state tee heetth — minute she's secretary of state for health, - she's - for health, now she's environment- for health, now she's environment secretary. /t:::t. environment secretary. you remember when _ environment secretary. you remember when they was trying to oust boris johnson and i was doing shows on air, you doing shows and live on air, you kept all these kept getting all these notifications through. so—and—so's so so—and—so's resigned. and so i was i don't even know was thinking, i don't even know these people. ah. and as i said, a on them, not us. if a failing on them, not us. if you ask me, there'll be more of those coming. not start those tests coming. do not start googung those tests coming. do not start googling cabinet the googling the cabinet and the shadow cabinet because will shadow cabinet because i will know have googling. know if you have been googling. i will know if you've been cheating. told ben already cheating. i've told ben already he's allowed to at his he's not allowed to look at his phone, therefore neither are phone, so therefore neither are you. though, shall you. let's stick though, shall we, politicians, as we, with politicians, because as you remember, steve baker, we, with politicians, because as yotwas remember, steve baker, we, with politicians, because as yotwas quite �*nember, steve baker, we, with politicians, because as yotwas quite aember, steve baker, we, with politicians, because as yotwas quite a biger, steve baker, we, with politicians, because as yotwas quite a big allyteve baker, we, with politicians, because as yotwas quite a big ally whenyaker, we, with politicians, because as yotwas quite a big ally when itter, he was quite a big ally when it came suella braverman's came to suella braverman's attempt prime minister attempt to be the prime minister of country . political of this country. political besties. some people might call them. well, no longer everybody. steve baker has now said that he

will not support suella braverman at the next election. why? i hear you ask . well, why? i hear you ask. well, basically what she's been saying is when it comes to the grooming gangs, of which many people will be familiar, she has been linking british pakistani men to said grooming gangs. he says thatis said grooming gangs. he says that is inflammatory and basically wrong. what do you make to it? well, i think i'm a fan of suella braverman . and one fan of suella braverman. and one of the i think one— fan of suella braverman. and one of the i think one of— fan of suella braverman. and one of the i think one of the- ”a" " and one of the i think one of the great thhee— of the i think one of the great thmee eeewt— of the i think one of the great things about suella is that she eeye— things about suella is that she eeye ht— things about suella is that she eeye tt ee— things about suella is that she eeye tt ee ehe— things about suella is that she says it as she sees— things about suella is that she says it as she sees it. and it mteht— says it as she sees it. and it mteht he— says it as she sees it. and it might be offensive to some people— might be offensive to some teeth te— might be offensive to some teeth te eey— might be offensive to some people to say that they're of hetteteht — people to say that they're of pakistani extract— people to say that they're of pakistani extract these grooming gangst— pakistani extract these grooming gangse hwt— pakistani extract these grooming gangse hwt they— pakistani extract these grooming gangs, but they were . and you've gangs, but they were. and you've got gangs, but they were. and you've eet-he— gangs, but they were. and you've eetlhe eete— gangs, but they were. and you've eetlhe ehte te— gangs, but they were. and you've got be able to rochdale and got to be able to rochdale and they— got to be able to rochdale and they wee— got to be able to rochdale and they h— got to be able to rochdale and they were in okay— got to be able to rochdale and they were in okay they have also not they were in okay they have also met hwt— they were in okay they have also met hwt yee— they were in okay they have also not but you've got— they were in okay they have also not but you've got to be weeteee— not but you've got to be peepeeet te— not but you've got to be prepared to have an open and hemeet— prepared to have an open and honest debate— prepared to have an open and honest debate without fear and wtthewt— honest debate without fear and without favour. _ honest debate without fear and without favour. and unless our hettttetehe— without favour. and unless our politicians are— without favour. and unless our politicians are prepared to do thet— politicians are prepared to do thet .— politicians are prepared to do thet , yew— politicians are prepared to do thet , yew emet— politicians are prepared to do that , you end up— politicians are prepared to do that, you end up without debate . yew— that, you end up without debate . tew emet— that, you end up without debate . tew end we— that, you end up without debate . you end up effectively ettewhe— . you end up effectively allowing woke and cancel culture to allowing woke and cancel culture te ewttwe— allowing woke and cancel culture to subdue, subdue— allowing woke and cancel culture to subdue, subdue the truth. and

i'm to subdue, subdue the truth. and t-m eteett— to subdue, subdue the truth. and t-m eteett twe— to subdue, subdue the truth. and i'm afraid i've got— to subdue, subdue the truth. and i'm afraid i've got a real issue wtth— i'm afraid i've got a real issue wtth stewe— i'm afraid i've got a real issue with steve baker. _ i'm afraid i've got a real issue with steve baker. steve baker heet— with steve baker. steve baker heet et— with steve baker. steve baker was head of the— with steve baker. steve baker was head of the european teeeeeeh— was head of the european research group. he was chairman of research group. he was chairman et the— research group. he was chairman et the tweeeeem— research group. he was chairman of the european research group . of the european research group. he of the european research group. he eeewee— of the european research group. he eeewet tee— of the european research group. he argued for brexit. he eeemetet— he argued for brexit. he promoted brexit as soon as he heeeme— promoted brexit as soon as he heeeme e— promoted brexit as soon as he became a minister for northern weteee.— became a minister for northern teeteht. he— became a minister for northern ireland. he completely succumbed to ireland. he completely succumbed te the— ireland. he completely succumbed te the th— ireland. he completely succumbed te the tu .— ireland. he completely succumbed te the tu . he— ireland. he completely succumbed to the eu . he succumbed to to the eu. he succumbed to teewhtteem— to the eu. he succumbed to republican nationalism. he ewhheet— republican nationalism. he support putting a border down the meth— support putting a border down the middle of— support putting a border down the middle of the united thetem— the middle of the united kingdom, and- the middle of the united kingdom, and he was up in heettemeht— kingdom, and he was up in parliament in— kingdom, and he was up in parliament in tears in february eeyhe— parliament in tears in february eeyme ett— parliament in tears in february eeyme ett the— parliament in tears in february saying all the pressure he'd eeeeeteheet— saying all the pressure he'd experienced in— saying all the pressure he'd experienced in his fight for eeemt.— experienced in his fight for brexit. well,— experienced in his fight for brexit. well, if— experienced in his fight for brexit. well, if you can't take the— brexit. well, if you can't take the heeeewee— brexit. well, if you can't take the pressure, if— brexit. well, if you can't take the pressure, if you're not peepeeet— the pressure, if you're not peepeeet te— the pressure, if you're not prepared to stay the distance , prepared to stay the distance, if prepared to stay the distance, tt yewee— prepared to stay the distance, tt ye met— prepared to stay the distance, if you're not prepared to have the— if you're not prepared to have the fight— if you're not prepared to have the tteht .— if you're not prepared to have the fight , don't— if you're not prepared to have the fight , don't be in politics. the fight, don't be in politics. amt— the fight, don't be in politics. amt tt-e— the fight, don't be in politics. the he pebble— the fight, don't be in politics. and it's people like steve baker hete— and it's people like steve baker hewe teme— and it's people like steve baker have done inordinate damage to the eeee— have done inordinate damage to the tee— have done inordinate damage to the cause for an— have done inordinate damage to the cause for an independent, eeeeetem— the cause for an independent, sovereign united— the cause for an independent, sovereign united kingdom because they eetemethty— sovereign united kingdom because they ostensibly stood for it . they ostensibly stood for it. amt— they ostensibly stood for it. amt them— they ostensibly stood for it. and then when— they ostensibly stood for it. and then when it came to the tmheetemt— and then when it came to the important hurdles, they gave up . ett— important hurdles, they gave up . the wee— important hurdles, they gave up . the the wet— important hurdles, they gave up . 515 mps just coming back to hew— . 515 mps just coming back to hew ewtwt— . 515 mps just coming back to how awful our— . 515 mps just coming back to how awful our intake in

westminster— how awful our intake in westminster are, 515 mps voted to westminster are, 515 mps voted te heettttem— westminster are, 515 mps voted to partition the— westminster are, 515 mps voted to partition the united kingdom . emy— to partition the united kingdom . emty 29— to partition the united kingdom . my 29 whe— to partition the united kingdom . only 29 mps voted northern weteee.— . only 29 mps voted northern teeteht. tm— . only 29 mps voted northern ireland. i'm talking about the wtmteee— ireland. i'm talking about the windsor framework, which eemteme— windsor framework, which confirms the— windsor framework, which confirms the border down the teteh — confirms the border down the teteh see. — confirms the border down the irish sea. steve— confirms the border down the irish sea. steve baker was an ete— irish sea. steve baker was an tte hemeet— irish sea. steve baker was an erg member and— irish sea. steve baker was an erg member and he knows that eeete— erg member and he knows that heete h— erg member and he knows that heete h teet— erg member and he knows that boris in fact he— erg member and he knows that boris in fact he wrote articles in boris in fact he wrote articles h me— boris in fact he wrote articles m zeze eeyme— boris in fact he wrote articles in 2020 saying that the northern teetemt— in 2020 saying that the northern ireland protocol— in 2020 saying that the northern ireland protocol was wrong, that eet— ireland protocol was wrong, that eet te — ireland protocol was wrong, that eet te eet— ireland protocol was wrong, that we've got to get rid of that teteh— we've got to get rid of that teteh see— we've got to get rid of that irish sea border.- we've got to get rid of that irish sea border. and the minute he heeeme— irish sea border. and the minute he heeeme e— irish sea border. and the minute he became a minister, he eweewmheet— he became a minister, he succumbed. and the same for his heee— succumbed. and the same for his heee ehete— succumbed. and the same for his boss, chris heaton—harris, who's seeeeteey— boss, chris heaton—harris, who's secretary—northern. secretary of state for northern teeteht. — secretary of state for northern teeteht. -eht- secretary of state for northern ireland.-and only. secretary of state for northern ireland. and only 29 secretary of state for northern- ireland.-and only 29 mps ireland. succumb and only 29 mps and ireland. succumb and only 29 mps emt emy— ireland. succumb and only 29 mps emt emty 22— ireland. succumb and only 29 mps emt emty 22 et— ireland. succumb and only 29 mps and only 22 of them— and only 22 of them conservative, voted against the teemeweet, — conservative, voted against the framework, which _ conservative, voted against the framework, which is the topic in heme— framework, which is the topic in hemt te— framework, which is the topic in hand is about— framework, which is the topic in hand is about suella. yeah, but stewe— hand is about suella. yeah, but stewe hetee— hand is about suella. yeah, but steve baker needs— hand is about suella. yeah, but steve baker needs to be prepared to steve baker needs to be prepared te etemt— steve baker needs to be prepared te etemt we.— steve baker needs to be prepared te etemt we. we— steve baker needs to be prepared to stand up. we talked earlier eeewt— to stand up. we talked earlier ehewt whet— to stand up. we talked earlier about what conservative values are about what conservative values swette— about what conservative values are suella braverman is standing up are suella braverman is standing we tee— are suella braverman is standing up for conservative _ are suella braverman is standing up for conservative values. wen, — up for conservative values. wen, stewe— up for conservative values. well, steve baker needs to do the eeme— well, steve baker needs to do the same. steve— well, steve baker needs to do the same. steve baker, you could eewe— the same. steve baker, you could eewe te— the same. steve baker, you could argue, is actually— the same. steve baker, you could argue, is actually saying hang on argue, is actually saying hang eh-yew— argue, is actually saying hang on-you are the- argue, is actually saying hang on you are the home on a minute, you are the home seeeeteey. — on a minute, you are the home secretary. that— on a minute, you are the home secretary. that is— on a minute, you are the home secretary. that is one of the four great offices of state. you

are a trained and qualified lawyer . we led to believe lawyer. we are led to believe you choose your words you should choose your words more now it is more carefully. now it is absolutely true that there were men of pakistani origin or pakistani ethnicity in rochdale and rotherham, and we know perfectly well because of the maggie maggie report . no, it's maggie maggie report. no, it's not alexis g report. jay. jay that's right. yeah. that you know that there was an element of political correctness , if you of political correctness, if you like. there was an unwillingness, subdued the whole debate. and we know that . and debate. and we know that. and that has been catalogued and it has been made laid clear for has been made and laid clear for what suella braverman has continued to say, despite the fact there are no it's completely contrary to the home office's own figures. and she has been criticised by people like the nspcc and leading children's charities because what she's basically saying is only these men commit crimes against children and what

they're concerned about, the charities who are picking up the pieces. she didn't say that she ehe— pieces. she didn't say that she ehe ehe— pieces. she didn't say that she ehe ehe eetet— pieces. she didn't say that she she she said our— f she didn't say that she she she said our quota as well theeetty. — she she said our quota as well directly. she's— she she said our quota as well directly. g directly. she's talking about a predominance of certain ethnic groups, british, pakistani males. well, they're not predominant. - well, they're not predominant. �*ftt�*tzgl males. well, they're not- predominant. well, she then she clarifies she was talking very much about rochdale rotherham and she was and telford and she was factually correct , but she factually correct, but she didn't the way she said it at didn't in the way she said it at the beginning. but why are you why— the beginning. but why are you why ee— the beginning. but why are you why yew— the beginning. but why are you why are you against— :tig i" g but why are you why are you against her zttig i" g but why are you why are you against her saying thete— why are you against her saying thete-ehe— why are you against her saying that?-she-to. why are you against her sayingi that?-she-to put that? because she needs to put it that? because she needs to put ttleemteet— that? because she needs to put itlcontext and— that? because she needs to put it context and suella suella it in context and suella suella braverman she— it in context and suella suella braverman she went off to that, not braverman she went off to that, met the — braverman she went off to that, met the mew— braverman she went off to that, not the new conservative. it was the ethee, — not the new conservative. it was the ethee, hwt— not the new conservative. it was the other, but it's— not the new conservative. it was the other, but it's the same we — the other, but it's the same we het— the other, but it's the same lot. but that— the other, but it's the same lot. but that where- the other, but it's the same lot. : the other, but it's the same- lot. but that where she made a speech again, i mean the mind boggles. she's home secretary yeah. go and do something. don't make speeches . precisely do make speeches. precisely do something. either get something. you know, either get on something. you know, either get ehe—te- something. you know, either get —ehtewe ee eteel on with your job, love, or step heet— on with your job, love, or step heet teem — on with your job, love, or step back from that— on with your job, love, or step back from that and go and join the— back from that and go and join the-h— back from that and go and join thte-tt-het— back from that and go and join this-if-not happy- back from that and go and join this if not happy with this and if she's not happy with the direction— this and if she's not happy with the direction of— this and if she's not happy with the direction of travel, she ehewtt— the direction of travel, she should resign.— the direction of travel, she should resign. absolutely. but the— should resign. absolutely. but thte-thte— should resign. absolutely. but this-this sort- should resign. absolutely. but this-this sort of- should resign. absolutely. but this-this sort of i- should resign. absolutely. but this this sort of i mean, this group, this sort of i mean, the— this group, this sort of i mean, the conservative— this group, this sort of i mean, the conservative party has been so the conservative party has been eeewe—h— the conservative party has been eeewe—h e— the conservative party has been eeewe—h e teme- the conservative party has been so such a long time so divided for such a long time emt— so divided for such a long time emtlhee— so divided for such a long time emtlhee yew— so divided for such a long time and has, you know, been the and it has, you know, been the ewhettem— and it has, you know, been the ewhetteh et— and it has, you know, been the ruination of so— and it has, you know, been the ruination of so many leaders

hewee — ruination of so many leaders hewee amt— ruination of so many leaders hewee amt ht— ruination of so many leaders hours. and it has— ruination of so many leaders hours. and it has actually eemetetety— hours. and it has actually completely detracted from the eeet— completely detracted from the eeet teewee— completely detracted from the real issues and— completely detracted from the real issues and the real concerns and- real issues and the real concerns and the real problems in concerns and the real problems h the— concerns and the real problems he thte eewmtey— concerns and the real problems in this country .— concerns and the real problems in this country. but you've now got in this country. but you've now eet thte— in this country. but you've now eet thte eeewe— in this country. but you've now eet thte eeewe et— in this country. but you've now got this group of and i think if stewe— got this group of and i think if stewe hetee— got this group of and i think if steve baker says,— got this group of and i think if steve baker says, i'm not eweeeetme— steve baker says, i'm not supporting suella braverman , i supporting suella braverman, i ehe te— supporting suella braverman, i ehe te t— supporting suella braverman, i mean, she is i think , you know, mean, she is i think, you know, tm— mean, she is i think, you know, t-m tet— mean, she is i think, you know, t-m tet te— mean, she is i think, you know, i'm led to believe— mean, she is i think, you know, i'm led to believe that she is ewte— i'm led to believe that she is ewtte e— i'm led to believe that she is ewtte e heteht— i'm led to believe that she is quite a bright woman. he says eemethhe— quite a bright woman. he says something like,— quite a bright woman. he says something like, she's not being etwetet— something like, she's not being etwetet ehe-e— something like, she's not being stupid, she's being unwise. and i stupid, she's being unwise. and tthht— stupid, she's being unwise. and tthtmt thet— stupid, she's being unwise. and i think that is— stupid, she's being unwise. and i think that is a— stupid, she's being unwise. and i think that is a very she needs to i think that is a very she needs te he— i think that is a very she needs te he e— i think that is a very she needs te he e htt— i think that is a very she needs to be a bit more— i think that is a very she needs to be a bit more nuanced. well, tm— to be a bit more nuanced. well, t-m eteett— to be a bit more nuanced. well, i'm afraid can't— to be a bit more nuanced. well, i'm afraid can't she— to be a bit more nuanced. well, i'm afraid can't she dreams of ewtthe— i'm afraid can't she dreams of putting pebble— i'm afraid can't she dreams of putting people on a plane to tweete— putting people on a plane to twemte. — putting people on a plane to rwanda. 3g7 if my daughter rwanda. right? if my daughter was rwanda. right? if my daughter eeeemet— rwanda. right? if my daughter eeeemet hy— rwanda. right? if my daughter was groomed by one— rwanda. 3g7 if my daughter was groomed by one of these tettewe— was groomed by one of these tettewe emt— was groomed by one of these fellows and there are communities across the land, memy— communities across the land, memy et— communities across the land, memy et whet— communities across the land, many of what and many of whom wtt— many of what and many of whom wtttlwetehhe— many of what and many of whom will watching you'll be will be watching this, you'll be twhe— will be watching this, you'll be living communities. and will be watching this, you'll be livir know communities. and will be watching this, you'll be livir know who communities. and will be watching this, you'll be livir know who it)mmunities. and will be watching this, you'll be livir know who it)mthat's es. and will be watching this, you'll be livir know who it)mthat's doing d you know who it is that's doing the.— you know who it is that's doing the. tew— you know who it is that's doing this. you know— you know who it is that's doing this. you know that there's a eeeteh— this. you know that there's a certain community within your etty— certain community within your etty-yew— certain community within your etty-yew thew— certain community within your city you know what was going city and you know what was going on city and you know what was going em-teteeweye— city and you know what was going on -takeaways and- city and you know what was going on takeaways and the on in the takeaways and the teete — on in the takeaways and the teete text — on in the takeaways and the taxis, taxi companies, you know whet-e— taxis, taxi companies, you know whet-e eeme— taxis, taxi companies, you know whet-e eetme eh— taxis, taxi companies, you know what's going on. it's all talked ehewt— what's going on. it's all talked ehewt h— what's going on. it's all talked ehewt h the— what's going on. it's all talked about in the bars— what's going on. it's all talked about in the bars and all the eeet— about in the bars and all the eeet et— about in the bars and all the eeet et ht.— about in the bars and all the eeet et t. h— about in the bars and all the rest of it. if your— about in the bars and all the rest of it. if your daughter was ehweet— rest of it. if your daughter was ehweetlthet— rest of it. if your daughter was abused that group, i would abused by that group, i would

the— abused by that group, i would find.downright_ abused by that group, i would findldownright-ifl find it downright offensive if eetttteteme— find it downright offensive if politicians tiptoe politicians tried to tiptoe eehewt— politicians tried to tiptoe around _the. politicians tried to tiptoe- around_the obvious around and ignore the obvious eemeetemt— around and ignore the obvious connection between those people. i connection between those people. twewtt— connection between those people. twewtt thet— connection between those people. t wewtt the ht— connection between those people. i would find it very— connection between those people. i would find it very absolutely. emt— i would find it very absolutely. and-absolutely- i would find it very absolutely. and-absolutely what- and that is absolutely what happened with the local authorities and the police. they tiptoed around. they wouldn't authorities and the police. they tiptcthey round. they wouldn't authorities and the police. they tiptctheyrountthe iey wouldn't authorities and the police. they tiptctheyrountthe worstyuldn't authorities and the police. they tiptctheyrountthe worst thingt authorities and the police. they tiptctheyrountthe worst thing of and they and the worst thing of all they they knew all and they knew. they knew leave the kids because they're kids , because a lot of them were kids, because a lot of them were in care and they came from troubled backgrounds, were treated like second class citizens. they weren't even believed they went for believed when they went for help. so absolutely all of that is absolutely true. but there is also, you know, more abuse. how many times on this program , many times on this program, michelle, have we talked about the appalling things that happen to children in their own home? i but they're very we're i know, but they're very we're tetttme — i know, but they're very we're tetthe—t- i know, but they're very we'rei talking—i know i know, but they're very we're- talking _i know we talking about two very i know we t— talking about two very i know we t thew.— talking about two very i know we are. i know. but— talking about two very i know we are. i know. but you— talking about two very i know we are. l are. i know. but you can't sort of what what suella braverman does. she's playing to a gallery. no , no. i think gallery. she's no, no. i think suella believes— gallery. she's no, no. i think suella believes-she's- g ithink suella believes she's not suella believes it. she's not playing— suella believes it. she's not playing-gallery- suella believes it. she's not playing gallery. she playing to the gallery. she hettewee— playing to the gallery. she believes suella dangerous. believes it. suella dangerous. no,— believes it. suella dangerous. we. ehe-e— believes it. suella dangerous. we. met het. — believes it. suella dangerous. no, she's not. she's.- believes it. suella dangerous. \tit she's the no, she's not. she's. she's the only one no, she's not. she's. she's the emty h— no, she's not. she's. she's the only one in cabinet. - no, she's not. she's. she's the only one in cabinet. are- \ttiit she's the only one in cabinet. ”til only one in cabinet. are you eeyme— only one in cabinet. are you saying that and you mean that? honestly, yes, i think she's. i

thht— honestly, yes, i think she's. i thtmt hee— honestly, yes, i think she's. i think her rhetoric— honestly, yes, i think she's. i think her rhetoric is dangerous. if think her rhetoric is dangerous. tt ehe— think her rhetoric is dangerous. tt ehe ee— think her rhetoric is dangerous. tt ehe e— think her rhetoric is dangerous. if she was a backbencher, it teeem-t— if she was a backbencher, it doesn't matter.— if she was a backbencher, it doesn't matter. she can just heme— doesn't matter. she can just heme-the— doesn't matter. she can just bang-the rest- doesn't matter. she can just bang-the rest of- doesn't matter. she can just bang the rest of them. bang on like the rest of them. she-e— bang on like the rest of them. ehee-heme— bang on like the rest of them. she's home secretary ' t: she's the home secretary and i ewteee— she's the home secretary and i ewteee hee— she's the home secretary and i ewteee hee tee— she's the home secretary and i applaud her for speaking frankly. i wish the rest of frankly. and i wish the rest of the cabinet would support her similarly sure that the similarly and make sure that the policy wants to enact are policy she wants to enact are enacted so we stop the boats . so enacted so we stop the boats. so we call out these problems and we call out these problems and we deal with these problems unashamedly. and she's supposed to unashamedly. and she's supposed te he— unashamedly. and she's supposed te he e— unashamedly. and she's supposed te he e tewyee— unashamedly. and she's supposed to be a lawyer. she's— l. : and she's supposed to be a lawyer. she's supposed to be a lawyer. she's supposed te he— to be a lawyer. she's supposed te he tm— to be a lawyer. she's supposed to be in charge— to be a lawyer. she's supposed to be in charge of— to be a lawyer. she's supposed to be in charge of the home, hemetemt— to be in charge of the home, homeland security, if you like. the— homeland security, if you like. amt ehe— homeland security, if you like. amt ehe eem-t— homeland security, if you like. and she can't even put together a and she can't even put together e httt— and she can't even put together e httt thet— and she can't even put together a bill that won't— and she can't even put together a bill that won't be ripped eheet— a bill that won't be ripped eheet .— a bill that won't be ripped eeeet . amt— a bill that won't be ripped apart . and her— a bill that won't be ripped apart . and her answer is, oh, apart. and her answer is, oh, tt-e— apart. and her answer is, oh, tt-e tetty— apart. and her answer is, oh, it's lefty lawyers. _ apart. and her answer is, oh, it's lefty lawyers. no, if it's a it's lefty lawyers. no, if it's e het— it's lefty lawyers. no, if it's e het tew— it's lefty lawyers. no, if it's a bad law, it— it's lefty lawyers. no, if it's a bad law, it will- it's lefty lawyers. no, if it's a bad law, it will be taken eeem— a bad law, it will be taken eeeet. wett— a bad law, it will be taken apart. well the— a bad law, it will be taken apart. well the issue she's got is apart. well the issue she's got te tethe— apart. well the issue she's got te hetme hy— apart. well the issue she's got te hetme hy the— apart. well the issue she's got is being by the system. 't: is being by the system. and i eeeee— is being by the system. and i eeeee wtth— is being by the system. and i eeeee wtth yew.— is being by the system. and i agree with you, though, if she is being, she needs to get out of the system. she should cross the floor to frankly, you say you wear it all on dewbs& co are you wear it all on dewbs& co are you all opinions valid? is suella braverman danger you all opinions valid? is- suella braverman danger aukus? teettye— suella braverman danger aukus? teettye te— suella braverman danger aukus? teettye te thet— suella braverman danger aukus? really? is that a— suella braverman danger aukus? really? is that a little bit of an really? is that a little bit of em eweeeeeet— really? is that a little bit of an overegged saturation or what yewee— an overegged saturation or what ye teethe— an overegged saturation or what ye teettme te— an overegged saturation or what you're testing to the break

eweeyhety— you're testing to the break eweeyhety .— you're testing to the break eweeyhety , t— you're testing to the break everybody , i want to know. everybody, i want to know. heetth— everybody, i want to know. health secretary who is it and whe— health secretary who is it and whe te— health secretary who is it and whe he the— health secretary who is it and who is the shadow health eeeeeteeye— who is the shadow health secretary? normal rules apply. do secretary? normal rules apply. he met— secretary? normal rules apply. he met eheet. — secretary? normal rules apply. do not cheat. i'll— secretary? normal rules apply. do not cheat. i'll know if you hewe— do not cheat. i'll know if you hewe emt— do not cheat. i'll know if you hewe emt t— do not cheat. i'll know if you have and i will— do not cheat. i'll know if you have and i will see you in a eewte— have and i will see you in a eewete et— have and i will see you in a couple of minutes when i come eee,— couple of minutes when i come back, he— couple of minutes when i come back, tete te— couple of minutes when i come back, lots to talk— couple of minutes when i come back, lots to talk to you about. the — back, lots to talk to you about. the eettee — back, lots to talk to you about. the police and— back, lots to talk to you about. the police and more. see you

me at 7:00 on gb news, britain's news . news. channel hello there. news. channel- . hello there. welcome news. channel— . hello there. welcome back ehemet— - hello there. welcome back to hello there. welcome back to dewbs& - hello there. welcome back to hewhee ee. — - hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co. -michelle- dewbs& co. with me michelle hewheeey— dewbs& co. with me michelle hewheeey eteht— dewbs& co. with me michelle dewberry right through till 7:00 temteht— dewberry right through till 7:00 temteht-me,- dewberry right through till 7:00 tonight me, former tonight alongside me, former heett— tonight alongside me, former brexit—ofl brexit party mep and ceo of thet— brexit party mep and ceo of thet-eeewe,- brexit party mep and ceo of first-group, ben. brexit party mep and ceo of first group, ben habib first property group, ben habib ,-hetttteet— first property group, ben habib , political commentator , and the political commentator joe hhttttee— , and the political commentator joe hhttttee. t— , and the political commentator joe phillips. i was— , and the political commentator joe phillips. i was testing you guys— joe phillips. i was testing you ewe-the— joe phillips. i was testing you ewye-the heeet- joe phillips. i was testing you guys the break asking you guys before the break asking you whe— guys before the break asking you whe te— guys before the break asking you whe he the— guys before the break asking you who is the health— guys before the break asking you who is the health secretary and whe— who is the health secretary and whelthe— who is the health secretary and who-the shadow— who is the health secretary and who the shadow health who is the shadow health eeeeeteeye— who is the shadow health secretary? the— who is the shadow health secretary? the reason i'm asking is secretary? the reason i'm asking te heeeee— secretary? the reason i'm asking heeeee ee— secretary? the reason i'm asking is because one-the— secretary? the reason i'm asking is because one the top is because one of the top businessmen— is because one of the top businessmen says he businessmen says that he wewttm-t— businessmen says that he wouldn't anyone businessmen says that he- wouldn't-anyone from the wouldn't employ anyone from the eewe-emmet — wouldn't employ anyone from the government. .i'm_ wouldn't employ anyone from the government. i'm arguing most government. and i'm arguing most heehte— government. and i'm arguing most people-pick— government. and i'm arguing most eeeete-htet meet- people couldn't pick most eetttteteme— people couldn't pick most politicians out— people couldn't pick most politicians out in a line up are tethe— politicians out in a line up are tetttme em— politicians out in a line up are failing on the— politicians out in a line up are failing on the politician's hehett— failing on the politician's hehett. h— failing on the politician's behalf. if you— failing on the politician's behalf. if you ask me, and not

yewe— behalf. if you ask me, and not yewee .— behalf. if you ask me, and not yewee . se— behalf. if you ask me, and not yewee . se hem— behalf. if you ask me, and not yours . so ben habib, who is it? yours. so ben habib, who is it? oh,— yours. so ben habib, who is it? oh twe— yours. so ben habib, who is it? oh the eet— yours. so ben habib, who is it? oh. the eet twe— yours. so ben habib, who is it? oh, i've got i've got— yours. so ben habib, who is it? oh, i've got i've got the- oh, i've got i've got the secretary of state for health, thank goodness. steve barclay but remember who the but i can't remember who the shadow secretary for shadow secretary of state for health streeting yes. oh health is. wes streeting yes. oh wes streeting did you get done? he wanted to reform nhs too. he wanted to reform the nhs too. he wanted to reform the nhs too. he was a breath of fresh air, wasn't barry? barry was the wasn't he, barry? barry was the heeey— wasn't he, barry? barry was the eeew—eeewee- wasn't he, barry? barry was the heeey—emewee tm| barry. you got your answer in ewteteet— barry. you got your answer in ewteteet-et— barry. you got your answer in quickest-of all- barry. you got your answer in quickest-of all of- quickest out of all of my viewers. and— quickest out of all of my viewers. and were right on viewers. and you were right on teth— viewers. and you were right on heth heme.— viewers. and you were right on both paths. you— viewers. and you were right on both paths. you better not have teem— both paths. you better not have heem eeeetme— both paths. you better not have been googling this. guys. been googling this. you guys. i'll been googling this. you guys. ttt-te— been googling this. you guys. t-tt-te eee— been googling this. you guys. i'll-to see if- been googling this. you guys. i'll-to see if you- been googling this. you guys. i'll to see if you are i'll be able to see if you are then— i'll be able to see if you are then eeye.— i'll be able to see if you are brian says-the- i'll be able to see if you are brian says. the answer dumb brian says. is the answer dumb emt— brian says. is the answer dumb ehe-tewee- brian says. is the answer dumb and-you'relharsh. and dumber? you're a harsh hwmeh— and dumber? you're a harsh bunch-harsh- and dumber? you're a harsh bunch. harsh bunch . bunch. you're a harsh bunch. tet-e— bunch. you're a harsh bunch. tet-e-hteeee.— bunch. you're a harsh bunch. let's please. shall we? do let's talk, please. shall we? do you— let's talk, please. shall we? do yew thew— let's talk, please. shall we? do yew thew whet— let's talk, please. shall we? do you know what a— let's talk, please. shall we? do you know what a pcso is? a eettee— you know what a pcso is? a police community support ettteee— police community support officer. have— police community support officer. have you seen this wetee— officer. have you seen this the tethe— officer. have you seen this video doing the- officer. have you seen this video doing the rounds today ? video doing the rounds today? tet-e— video doing the rounds today? we twet— video doing the rounds today? we twet eet— video doing the rounds today? let's just get straight into it . whet— let's just get straight into it . whet yew— let's just get straight into it . what you need— let's just get straight into it . what you need to get round to the ee—ee— . what you need to get round to the ee—eh . — . what you need to get round to the co—op . honestly,- . what you need to get round to the co—op . the co—op. honestly, they have just been a fight round there because people are trying to stop the shoplifters that you're doing nothing about. there's a member just being member of the public just being assaulted by year old girl assaulted by a 15 year old girl who's drunk , had a drink thrown who's drunk, had a drink thrown in her face, got punched . people

in her face, got punched. people have called the police. we come round here and you're sitting here. i'm not respond to you. i know you're not. but at the site of the car will make them scatter. i have to deal with it . afraid to deal with . are you afraid to deal with it? that's not the point . it? then that's not the point. it kind of is the point. that's the perception . one here and not the perception. one here and not round there . that's just round there. that's just cowardice . no, no, no. it is . no cowardice. no, no, no. it is. no i'm afraid it is. cowardice. no, no, no. it is. no i'm afraid it is . this is the i'm afraid it is. this is the whole reason. these problems exist. that whole reason. these problems exist . that was someone's exist. that was someone's teeheem— exist. that was someone's teeheem h— exist. that was someone's dashcam in case- tix that was someone's dashcam in case she was wehteethe— dashcam in case she was wondering what's going on there. a tewee— wondering what's going on there. a the eeme— wondering what's going on there. a driver came across a copper, them— a driver came across a copper, them eetet— a driver came across a copper, then asked him— a driver came across a copper, then asked him there's a bit of a then asked him there's a bit of e hee— then asked him there's a bit of e hee he— then asked him there's a bit of e hee he h— then asked him there's a bit of a hoo ha in co—op_ then asked him there's a bit of a hoo ha in co—op round a corner. will— a hoo ha in co—op round a corner. will he— a hoo ha in co—op round a corner. will he go and sort it ewte— corner. will he go and sort it ewte he— corner. will he go and sort it out? he basically— corner. will he go and sort it out? he basically said no. he wewttht— out? he basically said no. he wewttm-t. tt— out? he basically said no. he wouldn't. it got— out? he basically said no. he wouldn't. it got me looking into all wouldn't. it got me looking into ett thte— wouldn't. it got me looking into all this whole— wouldn't. it got me looking into all this whole thing. by the way,— all this whole thing. by the wey, te— all this whole thing. by the wey, te yew— all this whole thing. by the way, do you know the difference hetweem— way, do you know the difference between police _ way, do you know the difference between police officers and heeee—etti between police officers and. pcsos _ all the pcsos and specials and all the eeet— pcsos and specials and all the eeet-tt-e— pcsos and specials and all the rest-it's.quite- rest of it? it's all quite complicated. - rest of it? it's all quite complicated. when you look into it. complicated. when you look into tt. -twet— complicated. when you look into tt-twet hewe— complicated. when you look into it. -just havellittle- it. let's just have a little teet— it. let's just have a little teetleem— it. let's just have a little look,-can. let's- it. let's just have a little look, can. let's have a look, if i can. let's have a teet— look, if i can. let's have a teet. se— look, if i can. let's have a look. so when— look, if i can. let's have a look. so when it- look, if i can. let's have a look. so when it comes to this is look. so when it comes to this he whet— look. so when it comes to this he whet t— look. so when it comes to this is what i found— look. so when it comes to this is what i found quite interesting.- is what i found quite interesting. joe looking at all

the interesting. joe looking at all. the—heeete the different powers that people hewe,— the different powers that people hewe—met— the different powers that people hewe—met yew- the different powers that people have,_not you can. have, whether or not you can meet— have, whether or not you can emeet eeewe— have, whether or not you can arrest people into do them, stop emt— arrest people into do them, stop ehe—yew— arrest people into do them, stop ehe—yew hewe- arrest people into do them, stop and—you have the- and search. so you have the police— and search. so you have the eeetee-the- and search. so you have the police, the special police, you have the special eehetehtee— police, you have the special constables-pcsos. police, you have the special constables pcsos . so constables and the pcsos. so heshe— constables and the pcsos. so heshe-eee— constables and the pcsos. so pcsos,-are paid- constables and the pcsos. so pcsos,-are paid .- constables and the pcsos. so pcsos, are paid . that's pcsos, they are paid. that's whet— pcsos, they are paid. that's whet thte— pcsos, they are paid. that's what this chap— pcsos, they are paid. that's what this chap was in that car. so what this chap was in that car. he they— what this chap was in that car. he they eetet— what this chap was in that car. so they paid officers . they so they paid officers. they eet— so they paid officers. they cannot arrest— so they paid officers. they cannot arrest people. they can't hteewtew— cannot arrest people. they can't hteewtew they— cannot arrest people. they can't interview, they can't really go emt— interview, they can't really go and investigate— interview, they can't really go and investigate ,_ interview, they can't really go and investigate , investigate and investigate, investigate crimes, etcetera. they can do thet— crimes, etcetera. they can do thet eemetty— crimes, etcetera. they can do fixed penalty notices. they are eetet— fixed penalty notices. they are eete e— fixed penalty notices. they are eete e eeeetet— fixed penalty notices. they are paid a special constable. i tewee— paid a special constable. i tewmt thte— paid a special constable. i found this interesting. a eeeetet— found this interesting. a special constable is a volunteer,— special constable is a volunteer, so- special constable is a volunteer, so no payment and they— volunteer, so no payment and they ee— volunteer, so no payment and they can arrest— volunteer, so no payment and they can arrest people and stuff like they can arrest people and stuff ttte thet. — they can arrest people and stuff ttte thet. se— they can arrest people and stuff like that. so very— they can arrest people and stuff like that. so very different heweee— like that. so very different eewee tee— like that. so very different powers for the _ like that. so very different powers for the volunteers versus the-amywey,— powers for the volunteers versus the -anyway, - point i the pcsos. anyway, the point of the pcsos. anyway, the point of the eteey— the pcsos. anyway, the point of the eteey te— the pcsos. anyway, the point of the eteey te tm— the pcsos. anyway, the point of the story is i'm asking tonight, do the story is i'm asking tonight, te-thht— the story is i'm asking tonight, do-think pcsos— the story is i'm asking tonight, do think pcsos are pointless do you think pcsos are pointless 7 do you think pcsos are pointless e -eemetetety.- ? utterly, completely, completely and utterly. if they haven't got the powers,- f wit�*t: maize if they haven't got the powers, what the hett— haven't got the powers, what the hett — haven't got the powers, what the hett they— haven't got the powers, what the hell are they doing— haven't got the powers, what the hell are they doing sitting in a wmtteem— hell are they doing sitting in a uniform-sitting— hell are they doing sitting in a uniform sitting police uniform and sitting in a police leeeeehee— uniform and sitting in a police car? so presence because a presence is around the corner and if they can't do anything or won't do anything now, unfortunately, couldn't hear unfortunately, we couldn't hear what the police officer was subtitled it for. yeah, he said he was . he subtitled it for. yeah, he said he was. he said he was a response. he said basically he's

a non response unit. he can't go deal with it. if goes round deal with it. if he goes round there, he'll to deal with there, he'll have to deal with it he can't. i can't see it and he can't. i can't see that distant— it and he can't. i can't see that distant i— it and he can't. i can't see that distant i don't- l wit�*t: ti?“ l i can't see that distant i don't have. it's got— that distant i don't have. it's eet me— that distant i don't have. it's eet me e— that distant i don't have. it's eet me e eeem— that distant i don't have. it's got me a room anyway so that us emt— got me a room anyway so that us emt sweee— got me a room anyway so that us and sussex police— got me a room anyway so that us and sussex police have said they-ee— and sussex police have said they're investigating. i've never- pcso - they're investigating. i've never pcso where i they're investigating. i've- never-pcso where i live never seen a pcso where i live emt— never seen a pcso where i live emt weey— never seen a pcso where i live emt yew-te— never seen a pcso where i live emt weey-te t— never seen a pcso where i live and very-do i ever- never seen a pcso where i live and very do i ever see a and very rarely do i ever see a eeeeee— and very rarely do i ever see a eeeeee eettee— and very rarely do i ever see a proper police -and - proper police officer. and eetwetty— proper police officer. and eetwetty-et- proper police officer. and actually of time proper police officer. and- actually-of-time we actually most of the time we thht— actually most of the time we thtmt tt-e— actually most of the time we think it's usually— actually most of the time we think it's usually because he or ehe— think it's usually because he or eheleehe— think it's usually because he or eheleehele— think it's usually because he or she i going i a fancy - think it's usually because he or she going a fancy dress she is going to a fancy dress party _ she is going to a fancy dress eeety. thet-e— she is going to a fancy dress party. that's how— she is going to a fancy dress party. that's how irregularly you— party. that's how irregularly yew eee— party. that's how irregularly yew eeeete— party. that's how irregularly you see people in a town that's twtt— you see people in a town that's twtt et— you see people in a town that's full of visitors— you see people in a town that's full of visitors .— you see people in a town that's full of visitors . during the full of visitors. during the summer, i think this whole thing is summer, i think this whole thing he wtteety— summer, i think this whole thing is utterly ridiculous. obviously, - is utterly ridiculous. obviously, we know there aren't emeweh— obviously, we know there aren't emeweh eettee— obviously, we know there aren't enough police around. there eeemt— enough police around. there eeemt emeweh— enough police around. there aren't enough police officers. we aren't enough police officers. we thew— aren't enough police officers. we know that— aren't enough police officers. we know that they're tied up tethe— we know that they're tied up tetme tete— we know that they're tied up tetme tete et— we know that they're tied up doing lots of other things. but we etee— doing lots of other things. but we also know— doing lots of other things. but we also know that the one thing thet— we also know that the one thing thet the— we also know that the one thing that the public— we also know that the one thing that the public and businesses weet— that the public and businesses wemt te— that the public and businesses wemt te e— that the public and businesses want is a visible— that the public and businesses want is a visible police force. wett— want is a visible police force. wett e— want is a visible police force. well, a visible— want is a visible police force. well, a visible police force of eemehety— well, a visible police force of somebody who— well, a visible police force of somebody who is— well, a visible police force of somebody who is not going to hweetteete. — somebody who is not going to investigate. might as well investigate. you might as well hewe— investigate. you might as well have _cut—out- investigate. you might as well- have _cut—out because have a cardboard cut—out because wee-eet,— have a cardboard cut—out because we've-gbb yew— have a cardboard cut—out because we've-got, you know,- we've already got, you know, eehete— we've already got, you know, private security— we've already got, you know, private security in shopping centres. you've— private security in shopping centres. you've got private eeewee— centres. you've got private secured motty_ centres. you've got private secured motty in other areas . secured motty in other areas. tewe— secured motty in other areas. tewe eet— secured motty in other areas. you've got bouncers on

nightclubs— you've got bouncers on nightclubs and sometimes restaurants.— nightclubs and sometimes restaurants. you've got enforcement- restaurants. you've got enforcement officers who emeteyet— enforcement officers who employed by— enforcement officers who employed by the local council whe— employed by the local council whe ee— employed by the local council whe te— employed by the local council who can do, you— employed by the local council who can do, you know, fines for dog— who can do, you know, fines for tee eee— who can do, you know, fines for tee eee eeetme— who can do, you know, fines for dog poo parking wardens. et eetee— dog poo parking wardens. et eetee et— dog poo parking wardens. et cetera. et cetera. _ dog poo parking wardens. et cetera. et cetera. what is the eetete— cetera. et cetera. what is the eetete heyhe— cetera. et cetera. what is the point? maybe there's somebody out point? maybe there's somebody ewt theee— point? maybe there's somebody out there who's— point? maybe there's somebody out there who's a— point? maybe there's somebody out there who's a pcso. yeah a oeso— out there who's a pcso. yeah a peso et— out there who's a pcso. yeah a pcso at home. _ out there who's a pcso. yeah a pcso at home. vet“? titit out there who's a pcso. yeah a pcso at home. titit pcso at home. what do you make to it? are you pointless or are you needed or what? you tell me, ben. well, i mean, well, i mean, i wholeheartedly agree with eweeythme— wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, joe. i thmt— everything you said, joe. i ththt ht— everything you said, joe. i think it could— everything you said, joe. i think it could be- everything you said, joe. i think it could be the- everything you said, joe. i think it could be the first time bakhmut we not we record that out. should we record it and teee— out. should we record it and teee ht— out. should we record it and teee tt tee— out. should we record it and keep it for future— should we record it and keep it for future reference ? keep it for future reference? teeh— keep it for future reference? teeh. exeetty— keep it for future reference? yeah, exactly. there- keep it for future reference? / tieoitilit "titi yeah, exactly. there was agreement once we have agreed on other no, other things, but no, wholeheartedly . i mean i think wholeheartedly. i mean i think if you've got a if you've given a job that you can't actually discharge and you've got all the trappings but none trappings of the office but none of the authority, i mean, it's pointless , isn't it? and it pointless, isn't it? and it comes back to you know, a failure in governance, doesn't it? you know, put someone in a uniform, put them in a panda car, actually make him a target, and then give him nothing, no

authority to deal with the situation. and no doubt he's had all sorts of health and safety training on why shouldn't why training on why he shouldn't why he involved . i he shouldn't get involved. i don't understand why they're eetet— paid in the specials aren't. wett— paid in the specials aren't. wet-thet— paid in the specials aren't. well,-that very- paid in the specials aren't. well, -that very odd . well, i find that very odd because i thought the pcsos were volunteers. are not. volunteers. no, they are not. they not. there's 8750 pcsos they are not. there's 8750 pcsos in england and wales in 2022. they get paid apparently between 20 d and £24,000 is what is available. yeah i mean, it takes available. yeah i mean, it takes a brave soul actually to volunteer to be. why would you volunteer to be. why would you volunteer for that much hassle? i don't know when you're talking about dog poo, by the way. i don't why suddenly don't know why i suddenly conjured image in my conjured up in my image in my head image of white dog poo head this image of white dog poo white. yes. yeah. where's that gone? do have gone? random tangent. i do have it. but when i was listening to you, i was thinking about police, i was also thinking police, but i was also thinking about did about white dog poo. where did that ever right you're that ever go? right you're quick. them before i go to quick. test them before i go to the break. who is the the break. oh, who is the chancellor of the exchequer? and who chancellor of who is the shadow chancellor of the exchequer? your thoughts ? do

the exchequer? your thoughts? do not it. please and i will not google it. please and i will see you .

in two. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you until 7:00. ben habib and joe phillips alongside me. you're a smart bunch. you lot. or maybe i've made my questions too easy. or maybe you're all just sat on google. know, paul , google. i don't know, paul, rosemary, william , there's loads rosemary, william, there's loads of you that have got it all right? these are all the people that got right. so far. that have got it right. so far. sunita, patricia w elizabeth sunita, patricia j. w elizabeth george. kevin linda. ken. anne anthony. it goes on. and on. i asked you who was a chancellor and who was a shadow chancellor. you both know this as well. gordon who's chancellor ? jeremy gordon who's chancellor? jeremy hunt who's the shadow chancellor 7 hunt who's the shadow chancellor ? rachel reeves you brownite so and reason i'm and so, yeah. the reason i'm pondenng and so, yeah. the reason i'm pondering this question tonight

is because one of our top businessmen in the boss of ineos, the chemical company, he says as part of a book that he's been writing that he wouldn't employ any of the crop of today's government, he employ any of the crop of today's government , he reckons today's government, he reckons that they're not the best calibre or standard or however we want to word it, and apparently public faith and all the rest of it is at an all time low. it got me thinking. i bet most people couldn't pick out politicians in a line up. so hence i've been testing you as we've been going along. do you think people we have think the people that we have now kind of the calibre that now are kind of the calibre that they want? to be, don't they want? used to be, i don't think are. imean, they want? used to be, i don't think are. i mean, you think they are. i mean, you thew,— think they are. i mean, you know, one might— 311i: i mean, you know, one might think that eeetet— know, one might think that social-exposes- know, one might think that social exposes them to know, one might think that- social-exposes them to too social media exposes them to too mweh— social media exposes them to too mweh-tety— social media exposes them to too much-daily scrutiny,- social media exposes them to too much daily scrutiny, if much sort of daily scrutiny, if you— much sort of daily scrutiny, if yew ttte. — much sort of daily scrutiny, if you like. scrutiny— much sort of daily scrutiny, if you like. scrutiny is not quite, you— you like. scrutiny is not quite, yew-ewte— you like. scrutiny is not quite, yew-ewte them- you like. scrutiny is not quite, you-puts them in- you like. scrutiny is not quite, you puts them in the you know, puts them in the ewhtte— you know, puts them in the public domain— you know, puts them in the public domain much and they public domain too much and they get public domain too much and they eet temyettttet— public domain too much and they get demystified can't get demystified and they can't hewe— get demystified and they can't hewe the— get demystified and they can't have the kind— get demystified and they can't have the kind of— get demystified and they can't have the kind of aura that eteteemem— have the kind of aura that statesmen could create simply by not statesmen could create simply by met tethe— statesmen could create simply by not being exposed— statesmen could create simply by not being exposed too much to the ewtte— not being exposed too much to the ewhtte h— not being exposed too much to the public in the— not being exposed too much to the public in the past. but i hewe— the public in the past. but i have watched— the public in the past. but i have watched recently, as it heeeeme— have watched recently, as it happens debates from parliament happens, debates from parliament heet— happens, debates from parliament heet h— happens, debates from parliament heet h the— happens, debates from parliament back in the 1980s— happens, debates from parliament back in the 1980s when we had a

teet— back in the 1980s when we had a tteet eteee— back in the 1980s when we had a first class prime— back in the 1980s when we had a first class prime minister who eetwetty— first class prime minister who actually believed in the united thetem— actually believed in the united thetem-thew— actually believed in the united kingdom knew what kingdom and knew what conservativism . and it's conservativism was. and it's a tetetty— conservativism was. and it's a totally different— conservativism was. and it's a totally different calibre in hetwthe— totally different calibre in including the— totally different calibre in including the opposition , a including the opposition, a tetetty— including the opposition, a totally different calibre. i they— totally different calibre. i mean, they really knew their they— mean, they really knew their onions. they spoke passionately. theee— onions. they spoke passionately. theee ee— onions. they spoke passionately. theee em— onions. they spoke passionately. there was an ideological divide hetweem— there was an ideological divide hetweem the— there was an ideological divide between the conservative party emt— between the conservative party met the— between the conservative party and the labour— between the conservative party and the labour party . and at the and the labour party. and at the memet— and the labour party. and at the memet t— and the labour party. and at the moment, i mean,— and the labour party. and at the moment, i mean, it's hard to put any— moment, i mean, it's hard to put emy eeeee— moment, i mean, it's hard to put any paper between— moment, i mean, it's hard to put any paper between the two. no, i thht— any paper between the two. no, i thtmt t— any paper between the two. no, i thtmt t thht— any paper between the two. no, i think i think they— any paper between the two. no, i think i think they are a much ttmhtehet— think i think they are a much diminished lot— think i think they are a much diminished lot and de—man and whe— diminished lot and de—man and whe ee— diminished lot and de—man and whe yewe— diminished lot and de—man and who was your fancy then? thetehee. — who was your fancy then? thatcher. yeah _ who was your fancy then? thatcher. yeah >- who was your fancy then? i t/tieit" > thatcher. who was your fancy then? - thatcher. yeah > thatcher. and i think i've got a little clip of her. if you want to refresh your memories, anyone about thatcher and she as she was and how she was as she was a phenomenal oh well this is about as much, much use as a chocolate fireguard because you can't even hear it. fireguard because you can't even hearit.i fireguard because you can't even hear it. i was going to show you this really good clip of thatcher when she was going on about this lady is not for tanning. well, i mean , i tanning. well, i mean, i ehwewety— g well, i mean, i obviously although i'm not a eeetettet— obviously although i'm not a eeetettet, t— obviously although i'm not a socialist, i didn't— obviously although i'm not a socialist, i didn't agree at all wtth— socialist, i didn't agree at all with margaret— socialist, i didn't agree at all with margaret thatcher's eettetee— with margaret thatcher's policies, but— with margaret thatcher's policies, but she came into

eewemmemt— policies, but she came into government with a very clear wetee— government with a very clear wetem et— government with a very clear vision of what— government with a very clear vision of what she wanted to do . amt— vision of what she wanted to do . amt ehe— vision of what she wanted to do . and she surrounded herself wtth— . and she surrounded herself with incredibly— . and she surrounded herself with incredibly smart, bright eeeete— with incredibly smart, bright eeeete whe— with incredibly smart, bright people who had the intellectual eteewe— people who had the intellectual eteewe te— people who had the intellectual eteewe te mete— people who had the intellectual rigour to make those things heeeem. — rigour to make those things heeeem. tew— rigour to make those things happen. you know, people like tetth— happen. you know, people like keith joseph,— happen. you know, people like keith joseph, nicholas ridley, wttte— keith joseph, nicholas ridley, willie whitelaw, geoffrey howe and willie whitelaw, geoffrey howe met the— willie whitelaw, geoffrey howe and the commitment to see it theeweh— and the commitment to see it theeweh the— and the commitment to see it through, the commitment to see it through, the commitment to see tt theeweh.— through, the commitment to see tt theeweh. tew— through, the commitment to see it through. now, all of these eeeete— it through. now, all of these eeeete het— it through. now, all of these people had got— it through. now, all of these people had got had had a life heteee— people had got had had a life heteee they— people had got had had a life before they went— people had got had had a life before they went into politics, whethee— before they went into politics, whethee ht— before they went into politics, whether it was— before they went into politics, whether it was business or wteheet— whether it was business or michael heseltine in publishing or michael heseltine in publishing ee teemhe— michael heseltine in publishing ee teemtme ee— michael heseltine in publishing ee teemtme ee .— michael heseltine in publishing or farming or , you know, they'd or farming or, you know, they'd all or farming or, you know, they'd ett het— or farming or, you know, they'd ett het eet— or farming or, you know, they'd all had got another life. most of all had got another life. most et them— all had got another life. most of them don't— all had got another life. most of them don't forget , had served of them don't forget, had served in of them don't forget, had served h the— of them don't forget, had served h the we— of them don't forget, had served in the war, had— of them don't forget, had served in the war, had been in the tee— in the war, had been in the forces, as was— in the war, had been in the forces, as was true of dennis heetey— forces, as was true of dennis heetey emt— forces, as was true of dennis heetey ehe jim— forces, as was true of dennis healey and jim callaghan for tehewe— healey and jim callaghan for tehewe .— healey and jim callaghan for tehewe . se— healey and jim callaghan for labour. so you've got people healey and jim callaghan for labour . so you've got people who labour. so you've got people who wtth— labour. so you've got people who came with some— labour. so you've got people who came with some experience of hweheee— came with some experience of hwetmeee emt— came with some experience of business and the— came with some experience of business and the world beyond eettttee— business and the world beyond eettttee hwt— business and the world beyond politics, but they— business and the world beyond politics, but they came with a hettet— politics, but they came with a hettet emt — politics, but they came with a belief and ben's— politics, but they came with a belief and ben's absolutely eteht. — belief and ben's absolutely eteht. h— belief and ben's absolutely eteht. tt yew— belief and ben's absolutely right. if you were setting up a hweheee— right. if you were setting up a hwetmeee yew— right. if you were setting up a business, you don't think about the etetee— business, you don't think about the sticker in— business, you don't think about the sticker in the— business, you don't think about the sticker in the window tomorrow. you're looking at the tehe— tomorrow. you're looking at the teme teem.— tomorrow. you're looking at the teme teem. amt— tomorrow. you're looking at the long term. and the problem that eet— long term. and the problem that eet tetey— long term. and the problem that we've got today is— long term. and the problem that we've got today is that we've got— we've got today is that we've eet eeeete — we've got today is that we've got people who've gone into

eettttee— got people who've gone into eettttee whe— got people who've gone into politics who aren't there for the— politics who aren't there for the teme — politics who aren't there for the long term.— politics who aren't there for the long term. they are there for the long term. they are there tee twe— the long term. they are there tee the yeee— the long term. they are there for five year cycle _ the long term. they are there for five year cycle to get their job for five year cycle to get their j'ob heet— for five year cycle to get their j'ob heet-t— for five year cycle to get their job back if indeed that job back again, if indeed that i , teet— job back again, if indeed that i mean , look at— job back again, if indeed that i mean , look at the— job back again, if indeed that i mean , look at the number of mean, look at the number of eeeete— mean, look at the number of eeeete thet— mean, look at the number of people that are— mean, look at the number of people that are stepping down teem— people that are stepping down from conservative party from the conservative party eteeety— from the conservative party eteeety-they- already because they know they-ee— already because they know. they-ee—teee they're probably going to lose thete— they're probably going to lose thete-ewt— they're probably going to lose their-but-also. they're probably going to losei their-but-also got their seats. but you've also got eewemmemt— their seats. but you've also got eewemmemt hy— their seats. but you've also got government by crisis and okay, to government by crisis and okay, te he— government by crisis and okay, te he teh— government by crisis and okay, to be fair, cowo— government by crisis and okay, to be fair, covid did take eweeyhety-e— to be fair, covid did take everybody's eye off the ball eehewt— everybody's eye off the ball eemewt the— everybody's eye off the ball around the world, but covid and eeewt— around the world, but covid and teeth hewe— around the world, but covid and brexit have dominated even if thet— brexit have dominated even if thet te— brexit have dominated even if thet te tewe— brexit have dominated even if that is true and— brexit have dominated even if that is true and it is true, ethee— that is true and it is true, ethee eeeete— that is true and it is true, ethee eeeete .— that is true and it is true, other people . do you know what other people. do you know what i meem— other people. do you know what i ewt— other people. do you know what i hwt yew— other people. do you know what i mean? but you still— other people. do you know what i mean? but you still should have had mean? but you still should have het emeweh— mean? but you still should have had enough sensible people eehewt— had enough sensible people eemewt yew— had enough sensible people around you to— had enough sensible people around you to look to be looking at around you to look to be looking et whet— around you to look to be looking et whet the— around you to look to be looking at what the other— around you to look to be looking at what the other thing you thew,— at what the other thing you know, we've got— at what the other thing you know, we've got schools falling eewm— know, we've got schools falling tewh eet— know, we've got schools falling down, we've got the nhs in eeeeetwet— down, we've got the nhs in perpetual crisis. i was with my mum actually at the weekend. my mum actually at the weekend. my mum will be watching this and we were sat there chatting and we were sat there chatting and we were both saying we cannot remember life like this. and wherever you thought about it, like whichever angle you picked. so right you try and donelan

nana and good luck getting an ambulance us you try and report ambulance us you try and report a good luck getting a crime. good luck getting someone's turn up. you try and get your kids educated properly at luck with in a at school. good luck with in a safe building. but was safe building. yeah, but it was like of strand. like whichever kind of strand. and we were both saying we cannot remember life in this country as this. i think country as bad as this. i think the country country as bad as this. i think the eewmtey te— country as bad as this. i think the country is in— country as bad as this. i think the country is in a— country as bad as this. i think the country is in a really- i ttitt: ithink the country is in a really bad eteee— the country is in a really bad place-moment- the country is in a really bad place moment and the place at the moment and the eeeeeeete— place at the moment and the eeeeeeete ee— place at the moment and the prospects are not— place at the moment and the prospects are not getting any hettet— prospects are not getting any better. - know _ prospects are not getting any better. .know ,_ prospects are not getting any better. know , that's what i better. you know, that's what i the— better. you know, that's what i ttte ehewt— better. you know, that's what i like about dewbs& co you all the eheeey— like about dewbs& co you all the eheeey mette. — like about dewbs& co you all the cheery inside. oh,— like about dewbs& co you all the cheery inside. o" i tit“ cheery inside. oh, come on, set you on. we can be cheery, but by the way, what do you think is a social media? i think social media time's almost gone. look at this. flies when you're at this. it flies when you're having fun. i think social media is blame a lot the is to blame for a lot of the weakness politicians. yes, weakness in politicians. yes, i think it is. you make you make a proclamation, you go online, people absolutely you, people absolutely lambast you, and panic and they and then they panic and they backtrack on it. anita i'm backtrack on it. anita says, i'm a new to your a relatively new viewer to your program, love it. and yes, program, but i love it. and yes, ben the housewife's favourite ben is the housewife's favourite . lots of you getting my questions wrong when it comes to the shadow cabinet, which proves my point. they are not the

calibre, i believe anyway, that they should be. we should all be able to recite who is who when it comes to leading the way. lots of division on that. that first topic about the immigration plan. it doesn't bode well for the tories looking at my inbox, the fact that there's this fragmented nation in that party and lots of you getting in touch about the demise of white dog poo . you're demise of white dog poo. you're a fascinating bunch and that is going to be tonight . dear going to be good tonight. dear ben, thank you. thanks. look where you walk. forget to go onune where you walk. forget to go online get involved the online and get involved with the don't kill cash campaign. gb news com. see you tomorrow . news dot com. see you tomorrow. hello. many of us saw some tetety— hello. many of us saw some tetety heewy— hello. many of us saw some fairly heavy showers on monday emt— fairly heavy showers on monday emt ht— fairly heavy showers on monday emt tt eteye— fairly heavy showers on monday and it stays rather— fairly heavy showers on monday and it stays rather changeable as and it stays rather changeable ee-theeweh- and it stays rather changeable as-through the- and it stays rather changeable as through the next few as we head through the next few teye. —the— as we head through the next few teye. —the eeet- as we head through the next few days. _the cool side,i days. staying on the cool side, yee,— days. staying on the cool side, yee-wtt— days. staying on the cool side, yee-wttt he— days. staying on the cool side,. yes,-will be-sunshine yes, there will be some sunshine , yes, there will be some sunshine letee— yes, there will be some sunshine letee twethee— yes, there will be some sunshine , also further showers to , but also further showers to -et— , but also further showers to -et the- , but also further showers to come. at the pressure come. we look at the pressure eettem. — come. we look at the pressure pattern. - pressure i pattern. then low pressure heee-t— pattern. then low pressure. hasn't—anywhere hasn't really moved anywhere far. hasn't really moved anywhere fat-_thel far. still centred towards the meetheeet— far. still centred towards the northeast country. and northeast of the country. and you— northeast of the country. and yew ee— northeast of the country. and you can see here— northeast of the country. and you can see here some fairly ttehtty— you can see here some fairly ttehtty eeetee— you can see here some fairly tightly packed as well. tightly packed isobars as well. thet-e—thheel that's what's keeping things tetety— that's what's keeping things. fairly—weather fairly windy. and these weather teehte— fairly windy. and these weather fronts—what's- fronts here, that's what's whethe— fronts here, that's what's bringing organised shower bringing some organised shower ewtheeete— bringing some organised shower outbreaks-now,- outbreaks of rain. now, that heet— outbreaks of rain. now, thati

first—affecting first band of rain is affecting mweh— first band of rain is affecting mweh et— first band of rain is affecting much of scotland through the ewemhe— much of scotland through the evening overnight, slowly evening and overnight, slowly ewehhe— evening and overnight, slowly pushing southwards. pushing its way southwards. but eeme-heewy— pushing its way southwards. but some-heavy-thatl some fairly heavy rain on that emt— some fairly heavy rain on that emet-wett- some fairly heavy rain on that and-well, clear- some fairly heavy rain on that and well, clear across and breezy as well, clear across the— and breezy as well, clear across the-weee— and breezy as well, clear across the-eeeee et— and breezy as well, clear across the areas of england, the central areas of england, wetee— the central areas of england, wales, northern— the central areas of england, wales, northern but to wales, northern ireland. but to the-emethee— wales, northern ireland. but to the-another band- the south, another band of eheweey— the south, another band of showery-will- the south, another band of showery will spread showery rain will spread in across southern _ showery rain will spread in across southern counties of theme— across southern counties of theteht—wel across southern counties of- england _we head england and wales as we head theeweh— england and wales as we head theeweh-mem— england and wales as we head through night. temperatures england and wales as we head thianyh night. temperatures england and wales as we head thiany clear night. temperatures england and wales as we head thiany clear spells temperatures england and wales as we head thiany clear spells will)eratures england and wales as we head thiany clear spells will turnures in any clear spells will turn tetety—eet- in any clear spells will turn| tetety—eet ett in any clear spells will turn. fairly—get off to fairly chilly. now we get off to a fairly chilly. now we get off to e tetety— fairly chilly. now we get off to etetety heteht— fairly chilly. now we get off to a fairly bright across a fairly bright start across the— a fairly bright start across the-ethee,- a fairly bright start across this-slice, like. a fairly bright start across this slice, like i said this central slice, like i said on this central slice, like i said eh tweetey— this central slice, like i said on tuesday morning. but further ewtheeete— on tuesday morning. but further outbreaks continue to outbreaks of rain continue to etewty— outbreaks of rain continue to etewty-wey- outbreaks of rain continue to- slowly-way southwards slowly spread its way southwards across _scotland. - slowly spread its way southwards across ireland, otland. slowly spread its way southwards across ireland, northern northern ireland, northern thetemt— northern ireland, northern thetemt-e- northern ireland, northern england-a weti northern ireland, northern- england-a wet picture england and quite a wet picture eeete— england and quite a wet picture eeete et— england and quite a wet picture across parts of the— england and quite a wet picture across parts of the south as we eteet— across parts of the south as we eteet tweetey— across parts of the south as we start tuesday morning. so ewthee— start tuesday morning. so twethee—te- start tuesday morning. sol further—to come, further heavy rain to come, eeettewteety— further heavy rain to come, particularly southeastern further heavy rain to come, partic astrly southeastern further heavy rain to come, partic as we southeastern further heavy rain to come, partic as we head southeastern further heavy rain to come, partic as we head throughastern further heavy rain to come, partic as we head through inton areas as we head through into the afternoon.— areas as we head through into the afternoon. elsewhere, the afternoon. but elsewhere, as i the afternoon. but elsewhere, as t-eeme— the afternoon. but elsewhere, as i-some sunshine- the afternoon. but elsewhere, as i some sunshine just i said, some sunshine, just a eeetteehe— i said, some sunshine, just a eeetteetme et— i said, some sunshine, just a scattering of showers, but still on scattering of showers, but still em-eeet— scattering of showers, but still eh-eeet eee,— scattering of showers, but still on-cool side, i— scattering of showers, but still on cool side, i don't think on the cool side, i don't think whee— on the cool side, i don't think whee-ewtte- on the cool side, i don't think winds-quite as- on the cool side, i don't think winds quite as strong as winds will be quite as strong as they— winds will be quite as strong as they-wehee.- winds will be quite as strong as they-monday. but- winds will be quite as strong as they monday. but still, they were on monday. but still, htehe— they were on monday. but still, htehe-eweeeee— they were on monday. but still, highs-average for- they were on monday. but still, highs average for the time highs below average for the time of highs below average for the time et the— highs below average for the time et the yeee. — highs below average for the time et the yeee. he— highs below average for the time of the year. so as— highs below average for the time of the year. so as head of the year. so as we head theeweh— of the year. so as we head. theeweh—emet through tuesday evening and ewemteht— overnight, some further outbreaks— overnight, some further outbreaks showery rain outbreaks of showery rain eeettewtee— continuing across some southeastern- continuing across some southeastern a bit of southeastern parts. a bit of wheeetehty— southeastern parts. a bit of wheeeteetty— southeastern parts. a bit of uncerte'of that— southeastern parts. a bit of uncerte'of that clearance, but we timing of that clearance, but we eewtet— timing of that clearance, but we could-another— timing of that clearance, but we could another pulse of heavy could see another pulse of heavy eeh— could see another pulse of heavy eeeeetme— could see another pulse of heavy rain spreading-the- could see another pulse of heavy rain spreading the far rain spreading in across the far eewtheeet— rain spreading in across the far southeast. elsewhere, though, memy— southeast. elsewhere, though, memyltheee— southeast. elsewhere, though,

many those showers tending to many of those showers tending to tete— many of those showers tending to teee-we— many of those showers tending to teee-we heet— many of those showers tending toi fade-we head-the fade away as we head through the mteht. — fade away as we head through the mteht. -ee— fade away as we head through the mteht. -ee 2— fade away as we head through the night. or 2 continuing night. just 1 or 2 continuing emt— night. just 1 or 2 continuing emet—theee- night. just 1 or 2 continuingi and—those clear and again, under those clear ethee— and again, under those clear ethee-tetety- and again, under those clear skies-fairly-asl skies turning fairly chilly as we skies turning fairly chilly as. wemeem—me skies turning fairly chilly as- we_morning. then we start wednesday morning. then eeehehty—the- probably a better start to the day— probably a better start to the tey eeeeee— probably a better start to the day across many— probably a better start to the day across many southern parts eemeeeet— day across many southern parts eemeeeet te— day across many southern parts compared to tuesday morning. seme— compared to tuesday morning. heme-heet- compared to tuesday morning. some _first thing,- some sunshine first thing, a etetee— some sunshine first thing, a eetee—eeeeeei drier start to the day across seettemt— drier start to the day across scotland elsewhere drier start to the day across- scotland - elsewhere lots scotland as well. elsewhere lots of scotland as well. elsewhere lots et ewmehhe— scotland as well. elsewhere lots of sunshine to— scotland as well. elsewhere lots of sunshine to come, but it went— of sunshine to come, but it wem-tlteme— of sunshine to come, but it won't long before further won't be long before further eeweeeh— won't be long before furtherl showers—again, showers break out and again, eeme-eewtet- showers break out and again, some _could be - showers break out and again, some could be heavy some of those could be heavy wtth— some of those could be heavy wtthlemett— some of those could be heavy withlsmall-haill some of those could be heavy. withlsmall-hail and with a small chance of hail and thunder— with a small chance of hail and thunder and— with a small chance of hail and thunder and again, breezy around any rees— thunder and again, breezy around any sewers—e- thunder and again, breezy aroundi any showers._on the any showers. temperatures on the seer—eheee- any showers. temperatures on the seer—eheee tol cool side. quick look ahead to tree— cool side. quick look ahead to the rest— cool side. quick look ahead to the rest ef— cool side. quick look ahead to the rest of the— cool side. quick look ahead to the rest of the week. it stays rather— the rest of the week. it stays rather changeable a mixture the rest of the week. it stays ratsunshine 1eable a mixture the rest of the week. it stays ratsunshine and.e a mixture the rest of the week. it stays ratsunshine and showers, mixture

fri day friday tonight on farage, it's me, fri day friday tonight on farage, it's me, patrick christys. i am filling patrick christys. i am filling in big man. whilst he's in big man. whilst he's in for the big man. whilst he's in for the big man. whilst he's on well—earned but on well—earned but on a well—earned break, but coming up the show following on a well—earned break, but coming up the show following on a well—earned break, but c(weekend the show following on a well—earned break, but c(weekend the show following on a well—earned break, but c(weekend of the show following on a well—earned break, but c(weekend of riotsshow following on a well—earned break, but c(weekend of the show following on a well—earned break, but c(weekend of riotsshow following on a well—earned break, but c(weekend of riots acrossellowing a weekend of riots across france, i will ask on a well—earned break, but c(weekend of riots acrossellowing a weekend of riots across france, i will ask has

multiculture ism failed and could the same happen here on the streets of britain? nigel has left me with a nice little present as well. a