set out the since rishi sunak set out the government's five pledges. how is he scored with committee of mps to question him shortly . but the latest poll committee of mps to question him time in number 10 has an ailing nhs made us sicker .7 a former nhs made us sicker? a former health secretary— nhs made us sicker? a former health secretary thinks- x : c»; f”? a former health secretary thinks so \\ : 0.5 f”? a former health secretary thinks so . health secretary thinks so. writing— health secretary thinks so. writing in— health secretary thinks so. writing in the— health secretary thinks so. writing in the times, sajid javid_ writing in the times, sajid javid says— writing in the times, sajid javid says the— writing in the times, sajid javid says the health care service— javid says the health care service is— javid says the health care service is frozen in time. we're ioinei— service is frozen in time. we're joined by— service is frozen in time. we're joined by another— service is frozen in time. we're joined by another former health semiari— joined by another former health secretary, stephen dorrell. so does— secretary, stephen dorrell. so does he— secretary, stephen dorrell. so does he agree— secretary, stephen dorrell. so does he agree .7_ secretary, stephen dorrell. so does he agree .7 could judges slam does he agree? could judges slam the does he agree? could judges slam iiie brakes— does he agree? could judges slam rire irekee err— does he agree? could judges slam the brakes on london's ulez eeiremee — the brakes on london's ulez scheme? a— the brakes on london's ulez scheme? a judicial- the brakes on london's ulez scheme? ' r: it. ”cir scheme? a judicial review into the anti—pollution plan underway in the high court. we'll have the latest live from outside the court . court. and court. - iand some couri— . and some breaking court. and some breaking news to bring you, . and some breaking news to bring yer—wire— - and some breaking news to bring yer—wire ie— - and some breaking news to bring yer—wire ie ei- you, jamie barrow, who is 31 reare— you, jamie barrow, who is 31 years old,— you, jamie barrow, who is 31 years old,-been- you, jamie barrow, who is 31 years old, been found guilty years old, has been found guilty at years old, has been found guilty er neriirgiem— years old, has been found guilty at nottingham crown court of the murerei— at nottingham crown court of the murerei ei— at nottingham crown court of the murders of fatoumata haidara ,

murders of fatoumata haidara, eni— murders of fatoumata haidara, ere rer— murders of fatoumata haidara, are he young— murders of fatoumata haidara, and her young daughters, naima breme— and her young daughters, naima oreme eni— and her young daughters, naima drame and fatima— and her young daughters, naima drame and fatima drame . they drame and fatima drame. they diei— drame and fatima drame. they iiei irr— drame and fatima drame. they died in e— drame and fatima drame. they died in e fier— drame and fatima drame. they died in a flat fire— drame and fatima drame. they died in a flat fire in clifton in nottingham _ died in a flat fire in clifton in nottingham last november. rere— in nottingham last november. iei-s gei— in nottingham last november. iei-s gei er— in nottingham last november. let's get an update— in nottingham last november. let's get an update on- in nottingham last november. let's get an update on all- in nottingham last november. let's get an update on all the other headlines now with . aaron other headlines now with. aaron very good afternoon to you. it is a minute past 12. i'm aaron armeirerrg— is a minute past 12. i'm aaron armeirerg irr— is a minute past 12. i'm aaron armstrong in the— is a minute past 12. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom . armstrong in the newsroom. severi— armstrong in the newsroom. several bits— armstrong in the newsroom. several bits of— armstrong in the newsroom. several bits of breaking news to begin— several bits of breaking news to begin wire.— several bits of breaking news to begin with. thames water has been— begin with. thames water has been fired— begin with. thames water has been fined £3.3— begin with. thames water has been fined £33 million after been fined £3.3 million after pleading— been fined £3.3 million after pleading guilty— been fined £3.3 million after pleading guilty to four charges. it pleading guilty to four charges. ii reieiee— pleading guilty to four charges. ii reieree re— pleading guilty to four charges. it relates to polluting rivers near gatwick_ it relates to polluting rivers near gatwick in— it relates to polluting rivers near gatwick in 2017. it was part— near gatwick in 2017. it was peri er— near gatwick in 2017. it was peri of ar— near gatwick in 2017. it was part of an environmental agency preeeeuiierr— part of an environmental agency preeeeuiier ei— part of an environmental agency prosecution at lewes crown couri- — prosecution at lewes crown couri- mere— prosecution at lewes crown court. more details on that as as we eer— court. more details on that as soon as we get it.— court. more details on that as soon as we get it. meanwhile, breaking— soon as we get it. meanwhile, more breaking news. 31 year old jamie— more breaking news. 31 year old iemie barrow— more breaking news. 31 year old jamie barrow, as— more breaking news. 31 year old jamie barrow, as you've just been— jamie barrow, as you've just been he.....g,_ jamie barrow, as you've just been hearing, has been found guiiir— been hearing, has been found griiry ei— been hearing, has been found griiry er irre— been hearing, has been found guilty of the murders of fatoumata— guilty of the murders of fatoumata haidara and her young ieugirere— fatoumata haidara and her young ieugiiere .— fatoumata haidara and her young irrgirere . they— fatoumata haidara and her young daughters . they died fatoumata haidara and her young daughters. they died in a flat fire— daughters. they died in a flat rire irr— daughters. they died in a flat fire in clifton,— daughters. they died in a flat fire in clifton, in— daughters. they died in a flat fire in clifton, in nottingham, in zon— fire in clifton, in nottingham, in 2022. more— fire in clifton, in nottingham,

in 2022. more on— fire in clifton, in nottingham, in 2022. more on that story a rifle— in 2022. more on that story a iiirie ieier. — in 2022. more on that story a little later. and— in 2022. more on that story a little later. and at least ten people— little later. and at least ten peepie reeve— little later. and at least ten people have been injured renewing— people have been injured following reports of a car ramming— following reports of a car ramming and— following reports of a car ramming and stabbing attack by ieieeiiriere— ramming and stabbing attack by palestinians in— ramming and stabbing attack by palestinians in the israeli city of palestinians in the israeli city or rei— palestinians in the israeli city or iei aviv— palestinians in the israeli city or iei arir .— palestinians in the israeli city of tel aviv . the— palestinians in the israeli city of tel aviv . the suspected of tel aviv. the suspected erreek— of tel aviv. the suspected attack comes— of tel aviv. the suspected attack comes as- of tel aviv. the suspected attack comes as israeli forces eeriirue— attack comes as israeli forces continue their— attack comes as israeli forces continue their military epererier— continue their military operation in- continue their military operation in the occupied west eeri— operation in the occupied west berk irri— operation in the occupied west bank that has— operation in the occupied west bank that has left ten people eeri— bank that has left ten people dead eni— bank that has left ten people dead and dozens— bank that has left ten people dead and dozens more wounded. iieueerie— dead and dozens more wounded. iieueerie er— dead and dozens more wounded. thousands of palestinian jews reeve— thousands of palestinian jews have been— thousands of palestinian jews have been forced— thousands of palestinian jews have been forced to leave the jenin— have been forced to leave the rerir refugee— have been forced to leave the jenin refugee camp as a result of ie— jenin refugee camp as a result or rire iieree— jenin refugee camp as a result of the fierce fighting. the irerii — of the fierce fighting. the world health— of the fierce fighting. the world health organisation mission— world health organisation mission says— world health organisation mission says first responders reeve— mission says first responders ireve rei— mission says first responders ireve rei beer— mission says first responders have not been able to enter the camp— have not been able to enter the camp re— have not been able to enter the camp re help— have not been able to enter the camp to help treat— have not been able to enter the camp to help treat those injured . irre— camp to help treat those injured . iire average— camp to help treat those injured . the average rate— camp to help treat those injured . the average rate for a five year— . the average rate for a five year fix— . the average rate for a five year iix ii— . the average rate for a five year fix it mortgage deal has now moved above 6. the financial irfermeiier— now moved above 6. the financial information service— now moved above 6. the financial information service moneyfacts inform ation service moneyfacts says— information service moneyfacts eereiie— information service moneyfacts says the average _ information service moneyfacts says the average two year fix irre— says the average two year fix iree rise— says the average two year fix iree eiee eerie— says the average two year fix has also gone up— says the average two year fix has also gone up to 6.47. it comes as the _ has also gone up to 6.47. it comes as the uk's four major berrie— comes as the uk's four major banks reve— comes as the uk's four major banks have been— comes as the uk's four major banks have been summoned to a meeiire— banks have been summoned to a meeiire wiri— banks have been summoned to a meeting with the— banks have been summoned to a meeting with the financial weieiiee — meeting with the financial watchdog over— meeting with the financial watchdog over allegations of preriie— watchdog over allegations of preiiie .— watchdog over allegations of preiire . bring.— watchdog over allegations of profits . bring. the fca will profits. bring. the fca will qreeiier— profits. bring. the fca will question bosses of natwest,

iieyie— question bosses of natwest, iierie ,— question bosses of natwest, lloyds , barclays and hsbc over lloyds, barclays and hsbc over concerns that— lloyds, barclays and hsbc over concerns that savings rates are lagging— concerns that savings rates are ieggirg ieiiri— concerns that savings rates are lagging behind the soaring costs of lagging behind the soaring costs or merigegee. — lagging behind the soaring costs of mortgages. the— lagging behind the soaring costs of mortgages. the average easy access savings rate— of mortgages. the average easy access savings rate is 2.45. sieiew— access savings rate is 2.45. shadow chief— access savings rate is 2.45. shadow chief secretary to the treasurvr — shadow chief secretary to the treasurvr rer— shadow chief secretary to the treasury, pat mcfadden, says merry— treasury, pat mcfadden, says many families— treasury, pat mcfadden, says many families are struggling to make— many families are struggling to make irre— many families are struggling to make the payments . ' r: many families are struggling to make the payments. 'r: c wig make the payments. and it's very concerning . and it's like concerning. and it's like rolling financial thunder. this the rates are going up and up, particularly over the past month or so , and every month there's or so, and every month there's about 200,000 more people coming off a two or a five year fixed rate. it might have been fixed in the past. it's something like 2% at and they're now coming on to the kind of rates that you've just quoted. it's going to cost families hundreds of pounds a month when they renew these deals. energy companies are racing— deals. energy companies are facing financial— energy companies are facing financial penalties if they— facing financial penalties if they prioritise— facing financial penalties if they prioritise investors over customers . ofgem says suppliers customers. ofgem says suppliers eieuii— customers. ofgem says suppliers eireuii recre— customers. ofgem says suppliers should focus instead on maintaining— should focus instead on maintaining financial resilience reiirer— maintaining financial resilience reiireriirerr— maintaining financial resilience rather than paying shareholders

iiviierie— rather than paying shareholders iiviierie. ii— rather than paying shareholders dividends. it says— rather than paying shareholders dividends. it says it will take eeiier— dividends. it says it will take eeiier ii— dividends. it says it will take action if pricing— dividends. it says it will take action if pricing rules are abused.— action if pricing rules are abused. wholesale prices have begun— abused. wholesale prices have begun ie— abused. wholesale prices have begun re eeee— abused. wholesale prices have begun to ease and domestic eemeprriee— begun to ease and domestic eemepiee ere— begun to ease and domestic companies are expected to return to companies are expected to return re prefi— companies are expected to return re prerii errer— companies are expected to return to profit after five— companies are expected to return to profit after five years of roses.— to profit after five years of losses. however, the former boss of energy— losses. however, the former boss or energy iii— losses. however, the former boss or energy iir ,— losses. however, the former boss of energy uk , angela knight, of energy uk, angela knight, says— of energy uk, angela knight, eeye ire— of energy uk, angela knight, eeye ir-e rer— of energy uk, angela knight, says it's not just— of energy uk, angela knight, says it's not just the suppliers irrit— says it's not just the suppliers ieuii. i— says it's not just the suppliers fault. i think— says it's not just the suppliers fault. i think regulators generallvr_ fault. i think regulators generally, though , have been a generally, though, have been a iiirie— generally, though, have been a iiirie iii— generally, though, have been a little bit asleep— generally, though, have been a little bit asleep at the wheel , little bit asleep at the wheel, wireiirer— little bit asleep at the wheel, wireiirer ire— little bit asleep at the wheel, whether it's water, whether it's energy— whether it's water, whether it's energy . — whether it's water, whether it's energy . ann — whether it's water, whether it's energy. and i— whether it's water, whether it's energy. and i think- whether it's water, whether it's energy. and i think that financial regulation is these days extremely complicated . and days extremely complicated. and what they can do on the one hand, which is say to banks, you've got to hold more capital on the other, makes it harder for them to put up the savings rates. but regulators do have a part to play. and i don't think that they have stood in proper over not just this last year but over not just this last year but over several years teaching unions are calling on the government to release the pay recommendations made by an independent body. any eu members independent body. any eu members in ingieni— independent body. any eu members in ingieni wiri— independent body. any eu members in england will stage— independent body. any eu members in england will stage fresh- in england will stage fresh eirikee— in england will stage fresh eirikee en— in england will stage fresh strikes on wednesday and friday this strikes on wednesday and friday inie week— strikes on wednesday and friday this week over— strikes on wednesday and friday this week over the _ strikes on wednesday and friday this week over the ongoing iiennie. — this week over the ongoing iiegnre. ari— this week over the ongoing dispute. all four education

unions rejected— dispute. all four education unions rejected the government's irresi— unions rejected the government's iereei ener— unions rejected the government's latest offer of— unions rejected the government's latest offer of £1,000, plus a rere— latest offer of £1,000, plus a nine gey— latest offer of £1,000, plus a nine peg reie— latest offer of £1,000, plus a nine peg in— latest offer of £1,000, plus a 4.5% pay rise in may, the sunday iinee— 4.5% pay rise in may, the sunday iinee regener— 4.5% pay rise in may, the sunday times reported the— 4.5% pay rise in may, the sunday times reported the review body recommended— times reported the review body recommended a— times reported the review body recommended a 6.5% pay rise for reeenere— recommended a 6.5% pay rise for reeenere .— recommended a 6.5% pay rise for teachers . however,— recommended a 6.5% pay rise for teachers . however, the teachers. however, the gerernneni- teachers. however, the government is yet to formally nniiien— government is yet to formally publish those— government is yet to formally publish those recommendations . publish those recommendations. energy— publish those recommendations. inergyeengeniee— publish those recommendations. energy companies facing geneiiiee— energy companies facing penalties if— energy companies facing penalties if they prioritise irreeerei— penalties if they prioritise investors over— penalties if they prioritise investors over customers. that's a sien— investors over customers. that's a eiery we — investors over customers. that's a eiew we newe— investors over customers. that's a story we have brought you eireeiw— a story we have brought you eireeiw ee— a story we have brought you already, so we— a story we have brought you already, so we will move on ewiriiw— already, so we will move on ewiriiw eni— already, so we will move on swiftly and carry— already, so we will move on swiftly and carry on with the ii— swiftly and carry on with the news. a helpline— swiftly and carry on with the news. a helpline has been iewnenei— news. a helpline has been launched for— news. a helpline has been launched for homeless veterans in ingienri— launched for homeless veterans in england, scotland and wales is ine— in england, scotland and wales is the government— in england, scotland and wales is the government funded iniiieiiwe— is the government funded initiative aims— is the government funded initiative aims to connect ex—servicemen- initiative aims to connect ex—servicemen , men and women ex—servicemen, men and women wiin— ex—servicemen, men and women wiin neweing— ex—servicemen, men and women with housing providers, eneriiiee— with housing providers, charities and- with housing providers, charities and local authority is nee— charities and local authority is over £83 million— charities and local authority is over £83 million has been inweeiei— over £83 million has been invested into— over £83 million has been invested into the service and ine— invested into the service and we weieiie— invested into the service and the website in— invested into the service and the website in an— invested into the service and the website in an effort to end veterans sleeping— the website in an effort to end veterans sleeping rough . if at veterans sleeping rough. if at were,— veterans sleeping rough. if at mega, ine— veterans sleeping rough. if at meta, the company that owns reeeieew— meta, the company that owns reeeieek ie— meta, the company that owns facebook is launching a new app to facebook is launching a new app re river— facebook is launching a new app to rival twitter— facebook is launching a new app to rival twitter threads which wiri— to rival twitter threads which wiii ire — to rival twitter threads which will be linked— to rival twitter threads which will be linked to— to rival twitter threads which will be linked to instagram, is described— will be linked to instagram, is described as— will be linked to instagram, is described as a— will be linked to instagram, is described as a text based

conversation— described as a text based conversation app . however, it conversation app. however, it appeare— conversation app. however, it appears re— conversation app. however, it appears re wen— conversation app. however, it appears to very closely resemble its appears to very closely resemble in main— appears to very closely resemble its main competitor . it appears to very closely resemble its main competitor. it is the irresi— its main competitor. it is the latest chapter— its main competitor. it is the latest chapter in— its main competitor. it is the latest chapter in the rivalry ieiween— latest chapter in the rivalry between the _ latest chapter in the rivalry between the facebook boss mark zwewerierg— between the facebook boss mark zuckerberg and _ between the facebook boss mark zuckerberg and elon musk, who iewgni— zuckerberg and elon musk, who bought twitter— zuckerberg and elon musk, who bought twitter in— zuckerberg and elon musk, who bought twitter in october . bought twitter in october. iwiirer— bought twitter in october. twitter recently announced unvei— twitter recently announced unveil verified— twitter recently announced unveil verified users those who ion-r— unveil verified users those who ion-i new— unveil verified users those who ien-r pay wiri— unveil verified users those who don't pay will be— unveil verified users those who don't pay will be limited to rearing— don't pay will be limited to rearing 600— don't pay will be limited to reading 600 posts per day and nririen— reading 600 posts per day and nriiien errone— reading 600 posts per day and british sports heroes have ieinei— british sports heroes have joined together to celebrate the rein— joined together to celebrate the isin iinniew— joined together to celebrate the 75th birthday of— joined together to celebrate the 75th birthday of the nhs . sir 75th birthday of the nhs. sir anew— 75th birthday of the nhs. sir andy murray,— 75th birthday of the nhs. sir andy murray, who is on court at winiieien.— andy murray, who is on court at wimbledon. later,— andy murray, who is on court at wimbledon. later, jonnie peacock and wimbledon. later, jonnie peacock eni sen— wimbledon. later, jonnie peacock eni sen ener— wimbledon. later, jonnie peacock and sam quek are— wimbledon. later, jonnie peacock and sam quek are a few of the einieiee— and sam quek are a few of the athletes who— and sam quek are a few of the athletes who shared personal eieriee— athletes who shared personal stories about— athletes who shared personal stories about how the nhs has ewgpenei— stories about how the nhs has ewggenei inen— stories about how the nhs has supported them more. as it warren,— supported them more. as it neggene, ae— supported them more. as it happens, as always here on gb wewe. — happens, as always here on gb wewe. ani— happens, as always here on gb news. and now— happens, as always here on gb news. and now it— happens, as always here on gb news. and now it is back to mark eni— news. and now it is back to mark and .— and. pip iaaron,| and. pip aaron, thank you very much indeed. breaking indeed. so more on that breaking news from nottingham news coming in from nottingham crown a man's been

crown court where a man's been found after found guilty of murder after admitting killing a young family in a flat fire last year. jamie barrow , who's 31,— in a flat fire last year. jamie barrow , who's 31, from - " �*" ”it; jamie barrow , who's 31, from clifton barrow, who's 31, from clifton in nottingham _ barrow, who's 31, from clifton in nottingham ,_ barrow, who's 31, from clifton in nottingham , confessed to in nottingham, confessed to neiiee— in nottingham, confessed to geiiee ener— in nottingham, confessed to police after burning down his neigniewr-e— police after burning down his neighbour's home with her nernen— neighbour's home with her mother, with— neighbour's home with her mother, with a— neighbour's home with her mother, with a mother and her we— mother, with a mother and her we young— mother, with a mother and her two young children inside . after two young children inside. after a nigni— two young children inside. after a nigni er— two young children inside. after a nignr or new— two young children inside. after a night of heavy drinking last november— a night of heavy drinking last november . — a night of heavy drinking last november. east— a night of heavy drinking last november . november. east midlands reporter will hollis has the latest from nottingham court. three nottingham crown court. three lives tragically cut short.- lives tragically cut short. reiwne — lives tragically cut short. fatuma haidara and her two eniiiren— fatuma haidara and her two children, fatima— fatuma haidara and her two children, fatima and neymar. inane— children, fatima and neymar. inane agei— children, fatima and neymar. drama aged just— children, fatima and neymar. drama aged just three and one, diei— drama aged just three and one, died ener— drama aged just three and one, died after breathing in smoke in a place— died after breathing in smoke in a place inew— died after breathing in smoke in a place they should have been sere— a place they should have been eere .— a place they should have been eere . ineir— a place they should have been safe . their home— a place they should have been safe . their home all three lives safe. their home all three lives ieer— safe. their home all three lives we ieeewee— safe. their home all three lives lost because their— safe. their home all three lives lost because their flat on renne— lost because their flat on ferrao close _ lost because their flat on ferrao close was deliberately set ferrao close was deliberately eei en— ferrao close was deliberately eei on fire.— ferrao close was deliberately set on fire. the— ferrao close was deliberately set on fire. the man responsible , set on fire. the man responsible weir— set on fire. the man responsible ,rneir wiiier— set on fire. the man responsible , their killer was— set on fire. the man responsible , their killer was their neighbour— , their killer was their neighbour .- , their killer was their neighbour. today, 31 year old jamie— neighbour. today, 31 year old jamie barrow— neighbour. today, 31 year old jamie barrow ,_ neighbour. today, 31 year old jamie barrow , who lives on the jamie barrow, who lives on the sneer— jamie barrow, who lives on the eireei in— jamie barrow, who lives on the same street in clifton , same street in clifton, nottingham,- same street in clifton, nottingham, was found guilty of all nottingham, was found guilty of eii inree— nottingham, was found guilty of eii inree er— nottingham, was found guilty of all three of their— nottingham, was found guilty of all three of their murders. nei— all three of their murders.

new energy— all three of their murders. he'd already admitted- he'd already admitted manslaughter. cctv he'd already admitted manslaughter . cctv footage from manslaughter. cctv footage from the 19th of november last year shows barrow buying cans of been shows barrow buying cans of beer. so soon after he returned to buy more in the early hours of the next morning, he set fire to the young family's flat by pounng to the young family's flat by pouring petrol from his motorbike through the letterbox and lighting it with tissue papen he and lighting it with tissue paper. he was caught on cctv walking away despite neighbours heanng walking away despite neighbours hearing screams. by the time the police had arrived, barrow had returned with his dog to watch the fire take hold. because you're the fire take hold. because wen-re renew— the fire take hold. because you're ready, grab- �*" because you're ready, grab your details. he you're ready, grab your details. we was— you're ready, grab your details. we enwgni— you're ready, grab your details. he was caught smiling- you're ready, grab your details. he was caught smiling on- you're ready, grab your details. he was caught smiling on a police body cam . later, he police body cam. later, he called police, asking for updates. not a good called police, asking for updates . not a good story, sadly updates. not a good story, sadly speaking.— updates. not a good story, sadly egeewing. new— updates. not a good story, sadly speaking. how can— updates. not a good story, sadly speaking. how can i— l. : not a good story, sadly speaking. how can i help? reun— speaking. how can i help? new inw— speaking. how can i help? hello. my name— speaking. how can i help? hello. my name is- speaking. how can i help? hello. my name is jamie. i live on fair isle , close to covid—19 on fair isle, close to covid—19 . and weather next to where and weather next to where the . and weather next to where the fire wee— . and weather next to where the fire was earlier— . and weather next to where the fire was earlier this— and weather next to where the fire was earlier this morning. ween— fire was earlier this morning. ween in— fire was earlier this morning. ween i-n iner— fire was earlier this morning. yeah, i'm just wondering if inere-e— yeah, i'm just wondering if inere-e enw— yeah, i'm just wondering if there's any update on whether in — there's any update on whether in eiiwe— there's any update on whether in eiiwe. i— there's any update on whether i'm alive. i can— there's any update on whether i'm alive. i can property my property— i'm alive. i can property my progeny er—

i'm alive. i can property my progeny or new - i'm alive. i can property my property or not. q” rt.r:j$5 property or not. officers arrested barrow at his home the following afternoon when he confessed. he claimed he thought the flat was empty despite a light being on inside and a pushchair at the door. during the trial , the jury was told the trial, the jury was told that barrow had complained to the council about rubbish left in an alleyway, but prosecutors said it was not accepted that haidara was to blame . barrow, haidara was to blame. barrow, who has emotionally unstable personality disorder, had stopped taking medication a few months before he told the court that he sets fires to relax the killings rocked the quiet clifton street and robbed a young family of a promising future. fatima to a former voluntary worker from gambia and her children were just weeks away from starting a new life in america with their husband and father. abubakar he said he will deeply miss his family. barrow will be sentenced at nottingham crown court in the near future . crown court in the near future. will hollis gb news in

nottingham ? let's bring you some nottingham? let's bring you some ireewing— nottingham? let's bring you some more breaking news— will 3“ let's bring you some more breaking news coming in from— more breaking news coming in non iei— more breaking news coming in non iei aviv— more breaking news coming in from tel aviv where there's been a from tel aviv where there's been e ee—eeiiei— from tel aviv where there's been a so—called ramming attack with a so—called ramming attack with eer eni— a so—called ramming attack with eer eni eiee— a so—called ramming attack with a car and also an— a so—called ramming attack with a car and also an associated eieiiing— a car and also an associated eieiiing. wow— a car and also an associated stabbing. now the latest we're geiiing— stabbing. now the latest we're gaging, ineee — stabbing. now the latest we're getting, these pictures just coming— getting, these pictures just coming in— getting, these pictures just coming in ie— getting, these pictures just coming in is that hamas , the coming in is that hamas, the niiiieni— coming in is that hamas, the niiirenr group— coming in is that hamas, the militant group palestinian niiiieni— militant group palestinian militant group, has called it a nereie— militant group, has called it a heroic attack— militant group, has called it a heroic attack in— militant group, has called it a heroic attack in tel aviv, part of heroic attack in tel aviv, part or wnei— heroic attack in tel aviv, part or we ii— heroic attack in tel aviv, part of what it saw— heroic attack in tel aviv, part of what it saw as— heroic attack in tel aviv, part of what it saw as the natural reeeneeg re— of what it saw as the natural response to the— of what it saw as the natural response to the ongoing massacre of response to the ongoing massacre or our— response to the ongoing massacre er peepie. — response to the ongoing massacre er peepie. or— response to the ongoing massacre of our people. of course, this reieree— of our people. of course, this reieree ie— of our people. of course, this relates to these _ of our people. of course, this relates to these incidents in jenin— relates to these incidents in ienin en— relates to these incidents in ienin en ine— relates to these incidents in jenin on the west bank. the ieieei— jenin on the west bank. the iereei ie— jenin on the west bank. the iereei ie ei— jenin on the west bank. the latest is at least— jenin on the west bank. the latest is at least one victim in serious condition— latest is at least one victim in serious condition . "iii; latest is at least one victim in serious condition . ::$r:i; serious condition. there is also a serious condition. there is also e ee— serious condition. there is also a 46 year old woman with multiple systemic injuries. three other people injured . and three other people injured. and the attacker is thought to have been neutralised, which we suspect means shot and killed at the scene . but hamas does appear the scene. but hamas does appear to be claiming responsibility . to be claiming responsibility. and all this comes as thousands of palestinians leave the jenin refugee camp in the west bank.

that's following the military operation by israeli defence forces that they say is close to completing. but palestinian officials say their operation killed ten palestinians, 100 others wounded . and now in the others wounded. and now in the last few moments , we've had that last few moments, we've had that statement from the palestinian militant group hamas that this attack this morning in tel aviv is part of a natural response to the ongoing massacre of our people. well you can see the israeli defence force here deployed after this incident in tel aviv. the latest from iereeii— tel aviv. the latest from israeli army— ' , , the latest from israeli army radio saying that a eiwiiien— israeli army radio saying that a civilian first— israeli army radio saying that a civilian first responder, akua , civilian first responder, akua, eeiweiiw— civilian first responder, akua, eeiweiiw weing— civilian first responder, akua, actually using this term, neutralise— actually using this term, neutralise and the alleged erieewer— neutralise and the alleged attacker killed, shot and killed attacker killed, shot and killed er ine— attacker killed, shot and killed er rne eeene— attacker killed, shot and killed er rne .— attacker killed, shot and killed at the scene . and— attacker killed, shot and killed at the scene . and they say and at the scene. and they say and iniieeriene— at the scene. and they say and indications that— at the scene. and they say and indications that investor reieiiene— indications that investor relations, you- indications that investor relations, you can see still eeniinwing— relations, you can see still continuing in— relations, you can see still continuing in that area now reneg— continuing in that area now ienei eni— continuing in that area now taped off roped— continuing in that area now taped off roped off as investigations continue. but as we sewing,—

investigations continue. but as we were saying, still ongoing. iwe— we were saying, still ongoing. iwe in— we were saying, still ongoing. iwe in jenin— we were saying, still ongoing. two in jenin in— we were saying, still ongoing. two in jenin in the west bank. so two in jenin in the west bank. so we-ii— two in jenin in the west bank. so we'll update— two in jenin in the west bank. so we'll update you as we get en iner— so we'll update you as we get more on that from _ so we'll update you as we get more on that from the middle reen— more on that from the middle ieer. wow,— more on that from the middle east. now, it's— more on that from the middle east. now, it's been six months ence— east. now, it's been six months renni— east. now, it's been six months since rishi sunak— east. now, it's been six months since rishi sunak announced his five prieriiiee— since rishi sunak announced his five priorities for— since rishi sunak announced his five priorities for government, but five priorities for government, iwi ii— five priorities for government, but it doesn't— five priorities for government, but it doesn't seem to be going very— but it doesn't seem to be going very weii. — but it doesn't seem to be going very weii. se— but it doesn't seem to be going very well. so far. _ but it doesn't seem to be going very well. so far. a— but it doesn't seem to be going very well. so far. a new survey inieei— very well. so far. a new survey indeed within— very well. so far. a new survey indeed within his— very well. so far. a new survey indeed within his own party giving— indeed within his own party giwing rne— indeed within his own party giving the prime minister a negeriwe— giving the prime minister a negative approval rating for the finer— negative approval rating for the first time— negative approval rating for the first time since _ negative approval rating for the first time since he entered winner— first time since he entered winner io— first time since he entered number 10 after a rocky week witn— number 10 after a rocky week wiin e— number 10 after a rocky week wiin e meter— number 10 after a rocky week with a major setback in getting iiignie— with a major setback in getting iiignie ie— with a major setback in getting flights to rwanda off the ground and flights to rwanda off the ground eni entering— flights to rwanda off the ground and suffering defeats in the ionis— and suffering defeats in the ierie ever— and suffering defeats in the lords over his— and suffering defeats in the lords over his flagship illegal iiigreiien— lords over his flagship illegal migration bill,— lords over his flagship illegal migration bill, he'll be grilled by we— migration bill, he'll be grilled by the powerful— migration bill, he'll be grilled by the powerful commons liaison conniiiee— by the powerful commons liaison committee later— by the powerful commons liaison committee later today over the cost— committee later today over the eeei er— committee later today over the eeei er iiwing— committee later today over the cost of living the— committee later today over the cost of living the state of our nwiiie— cost of living the state of our public services— cost of living the state of our public services and security neiiere— public services and security neiiere . — public services and security matters . so— public services and security matters . r: matters. so quite a lot there to be quizzed about, indeed. let's get the latest from r: : 3: let's get the latest from westminster and get the latest from westminster eni speak— get the latest from westminster eni eneew ie— get the latest from westminster and speak to our— get the latest from westminster and speak to our deputy geiiiieei— and speak to our deputy political editor, tom harwood eni— political editor, tom harwood eni ion,— political editor, tom harwood and tom, clearly— political editor, tom harwood and tom, clearly at the moment, the and tom, clearly at the moment, we weir— and tom, clearly at the moment, the well marking— and tom, clearly at the moment, the well marking is— and tom, clearly at the moment, the well marking is sort of on a nine— the well marking is sort of on a ieeie— the well marking is sort of on a minus basis in— the well marking is sort of on a minus basis in terms of his own ewgpenere— minus basis in terms of his own ewggenere eni— minus basis in terms of his own supporters and of— minus basis in terms of his own supporters and of course, we've got supporters and of course, we've gei inie—

supporters and of course, we've got this liaison— supporters and of course, we've got this liaison committee as weir.— got this liaison committee as weii. ine— got this liaison committee as well. the heads— got this liaison committee as well. the heads of all the various select— well. the heads of all the various select committees , various select committees, eieeiwie— various select committees, absolute obe,_ various select committees, absolute obe, the liaison conniiree— absolute obe, the liaison committee is— absolute obe, the liaison committee is a- absolute obe, the liaison committee is a six monthly occurrence for— committee is a six monthly occurrence for the prime minister — occurrence for the prime minister. he's- occurrence for the prime minister. : occurrence for the prime minister. it; : e occurrence for the prime- minister. he's only done it once before. back last december. so this is the first time he'll be in front of various heads of committees. crucially with those five pledges that he announced at the start of the year six months ago, he will no doubt be asked about those five pledges. and crucially in the liaison committee, unlike in prime minister's questions, there's a back and forth. he'll be sitting down in a committee room and there will be a back and forth between those heads of committees and the prime minister. and so he won't be able to wriggle out of questions in the way that prime ministers often at prime minister's often do at prime minister's questions with a simple question and is much and answer format. this is much more detailed, much more lengthy questioning that will take place from 2:00pm. let's ask you to, tom, about this this new survey

from concern lviv home where the prime minister's approval rate thing has sunk very, very low. i mean, in june it was 21.6. now ii— i mean, in june it was 21.6. now ii ie— i mean, in june it was 21.6. now ii is nines— i mean, in june it was 21.6. now now it is minus two— i mean, in june it was 21.6. now now it is minus two point. i mean, in june it was 21.6. now now it is minus two point . seven now it is minus two point. seven inie— now it is minus two point. seven inie ie— now it is minus two point. seven inie is rew— now it is minus two point. seven this is very significant. - now it is minus two point. seven this is very significant. the- this is very significant. the conservative of homes survey, whilst not an accredited member of the british polling council, has been eerily accurate in the past in terms of gauging the popularity of conservative ministers . crucially, within the ministers. crucially, within the conservative party, these are conservative activists, conservative activists, conservative members who take this monthly survey from the conservative home website and crucially, if the prime minister dips down into the minus level, there , they're seen to not be there, they're seen to not be doing well amongst their own supporters and that's that's very significant. of course , very significant. of course, rishi sunak was never elected by conservative party members . he conservative party members. he was elected just by mps with a contest being avoided back in

october last year. and so perhaps there's always been that distance between him and the membership . but also distance between him and the membership. but also in this survey we see now that seven conservative cabinet ministers are in the minus rankings. that's more than have ever been recorded by conservative home. and it's interesting to looking at those at the top of the leadership table there. those that are most favoured by by the conservative membership it used to be once upon a time, liz truss , who would always hold truss, who would always hold that top spot , truss, who would always hold that top spot, perhaps a clue to the to her winning the conservative leadership contest last summer. of course, she's no longer included in these rankings as she's no longer in the cabinet, but the spot the cabinet, but the top spot goes ben wallace, the defence goes to ben wallace, the defence secretary , and the next three go secretary, and the next three go to james cleverly kemi badenoch and penny mordaunt. now those are names that are being swirled around. so very often in terms of looking to a future leadership contest and it's interesting as well. tom, that

paul goodman,— interesting as well. tom, that paul goodman, the- g tom, that paul goodman, the editor of the sewer— paul goodman, the editor of the sewer ei— paul goodman, the editor of the served at home— paul goodman, the editor of the served at home website, saying we— served at home website, saying we ire— served at home website, saying that it's reflecting— served at home website, saying that it's reflecting a growing concern at the— that it's reflecting a growing concern at the economic eiiweiien— concern at the economic eiiweiien .— concern at the economic situation . and- concern at the economic situation . and therefore, situation. and therefore, inew-re— situation. and therefore, they're looking at what they eeri— they're looking at what they eeii rne — they're looking at what they call the blue— they're looking at what they call the blue wall, i guess, reiner— call the blue wall, i guess, rather than _ call the blue wall, i guess, rather than the _ call the blue wall, i guess, rather than the red wall. i the interest— rather than the red wall. i the interest rates,— rather than the red wall. i the interest rates, the _ rather than the red wall. i the interest rates, the cost of iiwing— interest rates, the cost of iiwing eni— interest rates, the cost of living and those areas that they eerie— living and those areas that they eerie rew— living and those areas that they eerie reiw en— living and those areas that they could rely on previously, gernege— could rely on previously,- perhaps-anymore . perhaps they can't anymore. aneeierew— perhaps they can't anymore. aneeierew .— perhaps they can't anymore. absolutely . rishi _ perhaps they can't anymore. absolutely . rishi sunak- perhaps they can't anymore. absolutely . rishi sunak was in absolutely. rishi sunak was in many ways installed as as conservative party leader in terms of trying to shore up that blue wall, a shift perhaps from the red wall to the blue wall strategy , trying to hold on to strategy, trying to hold on to seats that have always been conservative and felt like they were sort of slipping away in a series by elections where series of by elections where particularly liberal particularly the liberal democrats really democrats were doing really rather well. but it does boil back to that fundamental question raised by bill clinton's campaign manager back in 1992. when it comes to elections, it's the economy , elections, it's the economy, stupid. and perhaps that is what will be the leading factor. stupid. and perhaps that is what will be the leading factor . this will be the leading factor. this sense of this malaise , this cost sense of this malaise, this cost of living crisis is that we're not escaping terribly soon. it

perhaps feeds into three of rishi sunak five pledges he made back in january , the pledge to back in january, the pledge to halve inflation, the pledge to reduce debt, and indeed the pledge to grow the economy . pledge to grow the economy. three pledges that are all teetering on the brink. the inflation levels staying stubbornly at 8.7, not getting down to that path that glide path. it needs to halve by the end of the year. similarly, debt is going above 100% of gdp for the first time since the 1960s. in this country , heading in the in this country, heading in the wrong direction when compared to our debt to gdp ratio . but also our debt to gdp ratio. but also crucially on that matter of growth, the country us has avoided a recession. this year. unlike, for example, the eurozone , but it is still eurozone, but it is still anaemic . for eurozone, but it is still anaemic. for far lower than, for example , in the united states . example, in the united states. tom, thank you very much indeed for iner— tom, thank you very much indeed for we iron— tom, thank you very much indeed for that from westminster. wag.— for that from westminster. wellri'oinin9_ for that from westminster. well, joining us— for that from westminster. well, joining us now- for that from westminster.

well, joining us now is- well, joining us now is political commentator benedict spence. good afternoon to you, benedict. thank you forjoining benedict. thank you for joining us on gb news. what do you make then of these latest approval ratings from rishi sunak? i mean, they've dropped significantly just within the space of a month. absolutely and i mean , it's unfortunate and i mean, it's unfortunate ieeewee— and i mean, it's unfortunate ieeewee i— and i mean, it's unfortunate because i think— and i mean, it's unfortunate because i think he's made a bit of because i think he's made a bit or e— because i think he's made a bit or e rei— because i think he's made a bit or e rei rer— because i think he's made a bit of a rod for his— because i think he's made a bit of a rod for his own— because i think he's made a bit of a rod for his own back. he eer— of a rod for his own back. he set nineeir— of a rod for his own back. he set himself some— of a rod for his own back. he set himself some very ambitious iergeie. — set himself some very ambitious rergere. wnien— set himself some very ambitious targets. which one— set himself some very ambitious targets. which one would hope tren— targets. which one would hope from weer— targets. which one would hope from your prime— targets. which one would hope from your prime minister and one wewii— would definitely hope for a nine— would definitely hope for a prime minister— would definitely hope for a prime minister have inherited would definitely hope for a prime mimess have inherited would definitely hope for a prime mimess hrhe inherited would definitely hope for a prime mimess hrhe did.trited would definitely hope for a prime mimess hrhe did. butd such the mess that he did. but i iner— such the mess that he did. but i we ion-i— such the mess that he did. but i just don't think— such the mess that he did. but i just don't think that ever just don't think that he ever reeiiw— just don't think that he ever rein-tine.- just don't think that he ever really -time. and. just don't think that he ever really time. and the really had the time. and the inneneni— really had the time. and the important thing— really had the time. and the important thing to remember is iner— important thing to remember is inei-rneee— important thing to remember is that-these-arel that a lot of these things are eeiweiiw—nie- that a lot of these things are. actually-his control. actually outside of his control. i actually outside of his control. i—nerweei- actually outside of his control. i _ harwood there i i mean, tom harwood there nenrienei— i mean, tom harwood there mentioned-sort- i mean, tom harwood there mentioned sort those mentioned those sort of those inree— three key things, i think, wnien— three key things, i think, which,-know,- three key things, i think, which, know, inflation, which, you know, inflation, economic growth and debt. well, as economic growth and debt. well, ee-rne— economic growth and debt. well, ee-ine geni— economic growth and debt. well, ee-ine ieii ie- economic growth and debt. well, as-the debt is sort- economic growth and debt. well, as the debt is sort of as tom said, the debt is sort of new— as tom said, the debt is sort of eiewiw creeping— as tom said, the debt is sort of slowly creeping up. the growth ien-r— slowly creeping up. the growth ien-r-nennening- slowly creeping up. the growth ien-i-nennening .- slowly creeping up. the growth isn't happening . it's not isn't really happening. it's not neggenei— isn't really happening. it's not neggenee rer— isn't really happening. it's not happened for the— isn't really happening. it's not happened for the best part a happened for the best part of a ieeeie. — happened for the best part of a ieeeie. ire— happened for the best part of a decade. it's-very- happened for the best part of a decade. it's very sluggish decade. it's been very sluggish in—neenie- decade. it's been very sluggish in—neenie erei in this country. but people are eeneiniw— in this country. but people are certainly feeling— in this country. but people are certainly feeling that when you consider— certainly feeling that when you consider-like— certainly feeling that when you consider like inflation consider things like inflation eni— consider things like inflation and—dropping-i and inflation, it is dropping. ner— and inflation, it is dropping. eer-iner— and inflation, it is dropping. eer-tee nei— and inflation, it is dropping. but just not dropping but it's just not dropping enwwnere— but it's just not dropping anywhere near fast enough. and reneinelie— anywhere near fast enough. and remains be whether or

remains to be seen whether or nei— remains to be seen whether or not i— remains to be seen whether or not i cen— remains to be seen whether or not it can happen.— remains to be seen whether or not it can happen. one of the men— not it can happen. one of the main drivers— not it can happen. one of the main drivers of— not it can happen. one of the main drivers of inflation right now-something— main drivers of inflation right now something is beyond now is something that is beyond ieieni— now is something that is beyond nieni sinew— now is something that is beyond rishi sunak-that- now is something that is beyond rishi sunak that the rishi sunak control. that is the price— rishi sunak control. that is the nrieelreei— rishi sunak control. that is the price-food and— rishi sunak control. that is the price food and that price of food and that is a resin— price of food and that is a reewii ei— price of food and that is a result of fertiliser shortages eni— result of fertiliser shortages eni iner— result of fertiliser shortages end we ie— result of fertiliser shortages and that is as— result of fertiliser shortages and that is as a— result of fertiliser shortages and that is as a direct result of and that is as a direct result or we— and that is as a direct result or we we— and that is as a direct result of the war in— and that is as a direct result of the war in in— and that is as a direct result of the war in in ukraine. inere-e— of the war in in ukraine. there's not— of the war in in ukraine. there's not very much that he ie— there's not very much that he ie eiewr— there's not very much that he can do about that. but he said we— can do about that. but he said we ne— can do about that. but he said that he would— can do about that. but he said that he would do— can do about that. but he said that he would do this. people are that he would do this. people reeiing— that he would do this. people are feeling -so - that he would do this. people are feeling so naturally are feeling poorer. so naturally inew—ie- are feeling poorer. so naturally inew—ie ieee- they are going to be less eninweei— they are going to be less enthused about prospect of enthused about the prospect of ieieni— enthused about the prospect of nieni sinew— enthused about the prospect of rishi sunak as— enthused about the prospect of rishi sunak as prime minister. ani— rishi sunak as prime minister. ani ee— rishi sunak as prime minister. ani ee i— rishi sunak as prime minister. ani ee r sav— rishi sunak as prime minister. ani ee i say ,— rishi sunak as prime minister. anieeieewi— rishi sunak as prime minister. and as i say , i just don't think and as i say, i just don't think iner— and as i say, i just don't think we ne— and as i say, i just don't think we ne nee— and as i say, i just don't think that he has the— and as i say, i just don't think that he has the time to do it. he that he has the time to do it. re nee— that he has the time to do it. re nee e— that he has the time to do it. he has a majority— that he has the time to do it. he has a majority in which he gei— he has a majority in which he ger rninge— he has a majority in which he can get things like legislation gene,— can get things like legislation gene-ine— can get things like legislation ienelrne gerry- can get things like legislation done, the party still done, but the party itself still egpeere— done, but the party itself still appears-divided,- done, but the party itself still appears divided, if appears very divided, even if eiignriw— appears very divided, even if slightly pugnacious than it slightly less pugnacious than it was six months— slightly less pugnacious than it was six months ago. so just ireeiiw— was six months ago. so just broadly speaking, it seems to be very— broadly speaking, it seems to be very eieiiri— broadly speaking, it seems to be very gong, nei— broadly speaking, it seems to be very stolid, not a— broadly speaking, it seems to be very stolid, not a lot of progress— very stolid, not a lot of progress being made and a lot of sniping— progress being made and a lot of eniging eni— progress being made and a lot of sniping and backstabbing going on ei— sniping and backstabbing going on er ine— sniping and backstabbing going on at the heart— sniping and backstabbing going on at the heart of— sniping and backstabbing going on at the heart of government. ani— on at the heart of government. and i— on at the heart of government. and i inink— on at the heart of government. and i think that— on at the heart of government. and i think that that, as much as and i think that that, as much ee enwrning,— and i think that that, as much as anything, explains the low geiiing— as anything, explains the low geiiing reringe— as anything, explains the low polling ratings for other rnerneir— polling ratings for other members cabinet, polling ratings for other- members-cabinet, people polling ratings for other- memitrust-cabinet, people polling ratings for other memitrust that cabinet, people polling ratings for other memitrust that this inet, people polling ratings for other memitrust that this inta people don't trust that this is a government— don't trust that this is a government working in the same direction — government working in the same direction. ithink._ government working in the same direction. ithink. well,- direction. i think. well, indeed, we've been indeed, you know, we've been concentrating rishi sunak,

concentrating on rishi sunak, but nine cabinet but a record nine cabinet ministers negative territory, ministers in negative territory, including jeremy the including jeremy hunt, the chancellor michael gove, the levelling secretary, theresa levelling up secretary, theresa coffey, the environment secretary. is it the fact secretary. so is it the fact that the tory party itself really has given up on the top team ? i think so. i also think, team? i think so. i also think, you— team? i think so. i also think, we knew,— team? i think so. i also think, you knew, in— team? i think so. i also think, you knew, it wee— , i think so. i also think, you know, if you look at those eeri— you know, if you look at those son et— you know, if you look at those sort of specific— you know, if you look at those sort of specific areas, i think, you— sort of specific areas, i think, we knew,— sort of specific areas, i think, you knew, ine— sort of specific areas, i think, you know, the average briton, wniier— you know, the average briton, wniier nei— you know, the average briton, whilst not being— you know, the average briton, whilst not being a sort of an ierineiien— whilst not being a sort of an extinction rebellion enthusiast ,—rninge| , is enthusiastic about things iiwe— , is enthusiastic about things iiie rne— , is enthusiastic about things like the environment. well, the current— like the environment. well, the current situation _ like the environment. well, the current situation around environmentalism isn't great wnen— environmentalism isn't great wnen wee— environmentalism isn't great when you consider that you've got when you consider that you've gei weren— when you consider that you've got water companies, you know, peering— got water companies, you know, peering-inro— got water companies, you know, pouring-into the- got water companies, you know, pouring into the rivers pouring sewage into the rivers eni— pouring sewage into the rivers end—en— pouring sewage into the rivers and an environment and you've got an environment eeereierw— and you've got an environment eeereiew—eeenl and you've got an environment secretary—seem to| and you've got an environment. secretary—seem to be secretary who doesn't seem to be on secretary who doesn't seem to be en-inei. — secretary who doesn't seem to be en-inei. ire— secretary who doesn't seem to be on-that. it's going- secretary who doesn't seem to be on that. it's going to on top of that. it's going to newe— on top of that. it's going to mere—iner- on top of that. it's going to- make_that particular make sense that that particular person— make sense that that particular gee ieeen-i— make sense that that particular person doesn't have great eggrewei— person doesn't have great approval ratings. michael gove is approval ratings. michael gove ie-ei— approval ratings. michael gove ie-er ine— approval ratings. michael gove is-of the most— approval ratings. michael gove is of the most effective is one of the most effective gewernneni— is one of the most effective government ministers that we've had government ministers that we've nee-beer— government ministers that we've nee-ieer-er- had in the best part of a ieeeie. — had in the best part of a decade. but— had in the best part of a decade. but he tainted decade. but he is tainted by new— decade. but he is tainted by many different— decade. but he is tainted by many different aspects of things iner— many different aspects of things inei-wnnenwier- many different aspects of things inei-wnnenwier ,- many different aspects of things that unpopular , be that are very unpopular, be it brewin— that are very unpopular, be it eerie-ii— that are very unpopular, be it brexit, it lockdown, be it brexit, be it lockdown, be it eiee— brexit, be it lockdown, be it eiee, wee— brexit, be it lockdown, be it also, you know,— brexit, be it lockdown, be it also, you know, the failure of eerie— also, you know, the failure ofi boris—separate boris johnson on two separate occasions , you know, he is occasions, you know, he is reneg— occasions, you know, he is rerrei witn— occasions, you know, he is tarred with that- occasions, you know, he is tarred with that brush as well. sweiie —vew -

tarred with that brush as well. suella _you know, i tarred with that brush as well. . suella—you know, she suella braverman you know, she has suella braverman you know, she nee inneriiei— suella braverman you know, she has inherited a— suella braverman you know, she has inherited a very difficult rnwinnie— has inherited a very difficult rnwrnnie ee— has inherited a very difficult rhythmic as the _ has inherited a very difficult rhythmic as the home secretary the rhythmic as the home secretary rne none— rhythmic as the home secretary the home secretary of this country— the home secretary of this country exists— the home secretary of this country exists to act as a human fien— country exists to act as a human tier—nine- flak jacket for the prime iiinieier— flak jacket for the prime minister she— flak jacket for the prime minister she that taking minister she knew that taking the minister she knew that taking ine-iwi— minister she knew that taking the but nonetheless , it's the job, but nonetheless, it's been— the job, but nonetheless, it's teen—ie- the job, but nonetheless, it'si teen—ie-enw been very difficult to get any wini— been very difficult to get any wine—en- been very difficult to get any kind—on illegal| kind of movement on illegal innigreiien— kind of movement on illegal immigration in— kind of movement on illegal immigration in this country. the nwrnerei— immigration in this country. the numbers are down— immigration in this country. the numbers are down in the small neere— numbers are down in the small ieeie eereee— numbers are down in the small boats across the _ numbers are down in the small boats across the channel, but were— boats across the channel, buti rner-e—wei that's because we haven't yet reeen— that's because we haven't yet reeen-een— that's because we haven't yet reeen-een er— that's because we haven't yet reach sort of summer reach that sort of key summer period. — reach that sort of key summer period. -giwen— reach that sort of key summer period. given what's been period. and given what's been neggening— period. and given what's been happening france over the happening in france over the ieei— happening in france over the ieei-wenier- happening in france over the. last-wonder-or last week, i wonder whether or not last week, i wonder whether or i-eee — last week, i wonder whether or i-eee e— last week, i wonder whether or i-eee e iii- last week, i wonder whether or not-see a bit of- last week, i wonder whether or not-see a bit of an. not we might see a bit of an inner— not we might see a bit of an wniiew in— not we might see a bit of an uptick in people— not we might see a bit of an uptick in people deciding eeiweiiw— uptick in people deciding eerweiiw you — uptick in people deciding actually, you know, isn't actually, you know, this isn't for actually, you know, this isn't fer—ieing- actually, you know, this isn't. iei—ieing neing for me. you know, being being a nigreni— for me. you know, being being a nigreni-ii— for me. you know, being being a migrant-it really- for me. you know, being being a migrfor-it really- for me. you know, being being a migrfor me. it really for me. you know, being being a migrfor me. and it really for me. you know, being being a migrfor me. and perhapsy for me. you know, being being a migrfor me. and perhaps the uk isn't for me. and perhaps the uk eeene-ei— isn't for me. and perhaps the uk eeene-ei e— isn't for me. and perhaps the uk eeene-ei e iii— isn't for me. and perhaps the uk seems-of a bit of- isn't for me. and perhaps the uk seems-of a bit of a- isn't for me. and perhaps the uk seems of a bit of a better seems a bit of a bit of a better option — seems a bit of a bit of a better option se— seems a bit of a bit of a better option. so,-know,- seems a bit of a bit of a better option. so, know, there is option. so, you know, there is no option. so, you know, there is ne eeri— option. so, you know, there is no een er— option. so, you know, there is no sort of respite— option. so, you know, there is no sort of respite on the nerizen— no sort of respite on the horizon in,— no sort of respite on the horizon in, you- no sort of respite on the horizon in, you know, unless one of horizon in, you know, unless one or ineee— horizon in, you know, unless one or ineee ininge— horizon in, you know, unless one of these things massively enengee— of these things massively changes one— of these things massively changes one his of these things massively- changes one-his-pledges, changes one of his five pledges, the changes one of his five pledges, ine-er— changes one of his five pledges, the-of course— changes one of his five pledges, the-of course being- changes one of his five pledges, the of course being nhs the other of course being nhs weiiing— the other of course being nhs weiring iieie— the other of course being nhs waiting lists. that's one of ineee— waiting lists. that's one of- rneee—iwigee. these things massively budges. i een-i— these things massively budges. i een-i-enwining- can't really see anything enenging— can't really see anything enenging rer— can't really see anything changing for rishi sunak as much as changing for rishi sunak as much ee enwrning— changing for rishi sunak as much ee enwrning eiee— changing for rishi sunak as much as anything else because he has the as anything else because he has ine-rrene— as anything else because he has the-frame that— as anything else because he has the -frame that-andl the time frame that he has and he the time frame that he has and ne-wirn— the time frame that he has and ne-wiin ine— the time frame that he has and he with the ministers he is stuck with the ministers iner— he is stuck with the ministers inei-inere— he is stuck with the ministers. that-there-anyone that he has. there isn't anyone eiee—reeiiw- that he has. there isn't anyone else—really turn. that he has. there isn't anyone else—really turn to.j else that he can really turn to. inie— else that he can really turn to. we 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wiin. ne— this is the hand he's been dealt win. he knew— this is the hand he's been dealt with. he knew that— this is the hand he's been dealt with. he knew that taking the ten.— with. he knew that taking the ten-ieeen-r- with. he knew that taking the job.-doesn't you- with. he knew that taking the job. doesn't you know, job. but that doesn't you know, iner— job. but that doesn't you know, inei-eiier— job. but that doesn't you know, that-alter-fact- job. but that doesn't you know, that alter fact that that doesn't alter the fact that ininge— that doesn't alter the fact that rninge ereni — that doesn't alter the fact that things aren't. : rte things aren't. benedict we're just interrupt you just going to interrupt you because a bit because we're just getting a bit of coming in from of breaking news coming in from downing street. we had been expecting called expecting the banks to be called in week to call to in later this week to call to account to the fca, the financial conduct authority . financial conduct authority. downing street is just saying actually they're being called in today meeting at 130. this is today a meeting at 130. this is lloyds , natwest, hsbc and lloyds, natwest, hsbc and barclays to explore. that's the phrase being used, how well they're supporting savers and passing through the interest rates to the savers, as well as those borrowing. so that's just coming in. the banks being called to account today. yeah, and that's on a day— yeah, and that's on a day when that five— and that's on a day when that five weer— and that's on a day when that five year fixed— and that's on a day when that five year fixed -for- five year fixed rate for nengegee— five year fixed rate for. mortgages-past five year fixed rate for- mortgages-past 6, 6.1% mortgages has gone past 6, 6.1% and mortgages has gone past 6, 6.1% eni-.— mortgages has gone past 6, 6.1% eni-. ne— mortgages has gone past 6, 6.1% eni-. no eiew- mortgages has gone past 6, 6.1% and-. do stay with- mortgages has gone past 6, 6.1% and . do stay with us and climbing. do stay with us nere— and climbing. do stay with us nere en— and climbing. do stay with us nere en en— and climbing. do stay with us here on gb news.— and climbing. do stay with us here on gb news. coming up, ulez neenein— here on gb news. coming up, ulez expansion challenged at the high eewn— expansion challenged at the high eewn renew.— expansion challenged at the high court today. will— expansion challenged at the high court today. will the brakes be eiennei— court today. will the brakes be eiennei en— court today. will the brakes be slammed on the— court today. will the brakes be slammed on the idea that we will be slammed on the idea that we will ire ei— slammed on the idea that we will ire er eren— slammed on the idea that we will be at court with— slammed on the idea that we will be at court with the— slammed on the idea that we will be at court with the very latest ener— be at court with the very latest

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waiter or waitress. absolutely. you're listening to gb news radio . welcome back to the live radio. welcome back to the live geek.— radio. welcome back to the live week. we— radio. welcome back to the live week. we wee— radio. welcome back to the live desk. we were telling— 3a: welcome back to the live desk. we were telling you weerereew— desk. we were telling you yesterday the _ desk. we were telling you yesterday the government was savingr — yesterday the government was sayingr — yesterday the government was saying, no, orkney, you're erewing— saying, no, orkney, you're erewing witn— saying, no, orkney, you're staying with us. however, in the ieei— staying with us. however, in the we rew— staying with us. however, in the last few minutes— staying with us. however, in the last few minutes we can tell you iner— last few minutes we can tell you we eewneii— last few minutes we can tell you that council owners— last few minutes we can tell you that council owners in orkney newe— that council owners in orkney newe eeiweiiw— that council owners in orkney have actually voted to explore eiierneiiwe— have actually voted to explore alternative forms— have actually voted to explore alternative forms of governance, ineiwiing— alternative forms of governance, ineiwiing iner— alternative forms of governance, including that so—called nordic eenneeiren— including that so—called nordic eenneeiren ,— including that so—called nordic connection , i.e. _ including that so—called nordic connection , i.e. looking towards connection, i.e. looking towards irennew— connection, i.e. looking towards irennerw er— connection, i.e. looking towards denmark or norway, so that vote iner— denmark or norway, so that vote twer eening— denmark or norway, so that vote twer coming in.— denmark or norway, so that vote twer coming in. — denmark or norway, so that vote just coming in. / 'r: denmark or norway, so that vote just coming in. / r: just coming in. yeah. and that nordic connection, if you know your scandinavian history, you might i don't know. but the islands were under norwegian and danish control until 1472 when they were given to scotland as part of a wedding dowry to king james, the third of scotland and councillors voted by 15 votes to six against an amendment to block the motion. yeah so basically they said yes. the government said no,- the government said no, we'll be trying— government said no, we'll be trying ie— government said no, we'll be trying to gei— government said no, we'll be trying to get some views from orkney— trying to get some views from orkney re — trying to get some views from orkney re eee— trying to get some views from orkney to see where they go from

nere. — orkney to see where they go from nere. ari— orkney to see where they go from nere. aii rner— orkney to see where they go from here. all that coming up for you eneniw. — here. all that coming up for you eneniw. nei— here. all that coming up for you shortly. but let's— here. all that coming up for you shortly. but let's talk now eirewi— shortly. but let's talk now eirewi ine— shortly. but let's talk now about the mayor of london facing the about the mayor of london facing ine-eewn— about the mayor of london facing ine-eewn-nie— about the mayor of london facing the-court-his plans- about the mayor of london facing the court his plans to the high court over his plans to expend— the high court over his plans to expend-win— the high court over his plans to expand-ulez or— the high court over his plans to expand ulez or ultra expand the ulez or ultra enieeien— expand the ulez or ultra emission zone- expand the ulez or ultra emission zone on a group of five eeneeweiiwe— emission zone on a group of five conservative councils are eneiienging— conservative councils are challenging the expansion amid concerns that— challenging the expansion amid concerns that the _ challenging the expansion amid concerns that the scheme could nern — concerns that the scheme could nern ieeei— concerns that the scheme could harm local businesses . ” harm local businesses. as our repener— harm local businesses. as our repener inee — harm local businesses. as our reporter theo chikomba has been speaking to people who will be affected and for over 60 years, fowl farm has been rescuing and rehoming neglected animals in and around kent. but at the end of and around kent. but at the end er new— and around kent. but at the end er new menin— and around kent. but at the end of next month it— and around kent. but at the end of next month it may— a�*r: r: but at the end of next month it may cost them £12.50— of next month it may cost them ire-so e— of next month it may cost them ire-so e day— of next month it may cost them ire-so e new ie— of next month it may cost them £12.50 a day to drive their enirwienee— £12.50 a day to drive their ambulance ._ £12.50 a day to drive their ambulance . if— £12.50 a day to drive their ambulance . if the proposed plans ambulance. if the proposed plans go ambulance. if the proposed plans ge eneei— ambulance. if the proposed plans ge eneei . — ambulance. if the proposed plans ge eneee . weir.— ambulance. if the proposed plans go ahead . well, it's— ambulance. if the proposed plans go ahead . will e ambulance. if the proposed plans go ahead . �*frirzzll e �*iz�*r go ahead. well, it's a 12 year old vehicle . it's a vehicle that old vehicle. it's a vehicle that we use almost every day to transport animals either to the vets for routine operations or for medical emergencies. but we also use it to go and rescue animals from abuse and neglect, where we sometimes have to go and collect numerous animals at one time. we're already struggling financially with the cost of living crisis , with

cost of living crisis, with energy increases and general food and vet bills increasing ing. so it's just another additional cost for us from the end of august, the ultra low emission zone will expand to outer london boroughs , a move outer london boroughs, a move transport for london say will help stop premature deaths of thousands of people . however, thousands of people. however, the plans to expand— thousands of people. however, the plans to expand the- however, the plans to expand the ulez zone are being— the plans to expand the ulez zone are being challenged by fire— zone are being challenged by five councils— zone are being challenged by five councils in— zone are being challenged by five councils in court . e five councils in court. so it's ner— five councils in court. so it's ner iner— five councils in court. so it's not just about those people that are suffer from it, but it's also about, i guess even those people that are compliant with their cars , they everybody knows their cars, they everybody knows somebody that's affected by it. and mr khan will say, oh, it's only 10% or whatever it is, of cars that are not compliant. but when you add up 10% of the huge numbers of vehicles in outer london, that that adds up to about half a million people. that's a heck of a lot of people that are affected . you've gone that are affected. you've gone all that are affected. you've gone eii gwiei— that are affected. you've gone eii gwiei new— that are affected. you've gone all quiet now, haven't- i5:5; 5: you've gone all quiet now, haven't you? now wiereeiking. — all quiet now, haven't you? now we're talking. i~ir:5;r5"irwm we're talking. meanwhile, david's family from croydon are

also concerned about the future. they are exempt from paying the charge until 2027. they currently rely on this van to take their son to the hospital, but a new adapted vehicle with space for two wheelchairs will cost them thousands money, which they say they don't have . our they say they don't have. our little boy, jj, if he has- little boy, jj, if he has a seizure, many- little boy, jj, if he has a seizure, many times, as any eeiieerie— seizure, many times, as any eeiieerie wiii— seizure, many times, as any epileptic will know , he has to epileptic will know, he has to go epileptic will know, he has to ge ie— epileptic will know, he has to ge re neeeiiei— epileptic will know, he has to go to hospital by— epileptic will know, he has to go to hospital by emergency enirwienee— go to hospital by emergency ambulance and— go to hospital by emergency ambulance and that problem means that ambulance and that problem means we iner— ambulance and that problem means we we nie— ambulance and that problem means that that his mum— ambulance and that problem means that that his mum goes with him. but that that his mum goes with him. nee i— that that his mum goes with him. nee i newe— that that his mum goes with him. nee i newe re— that that his mum goes with him. but i have to follow— that that his mum goes with him. but i have to follow on— that that his mum goes with him. but i have to follow on in- that that his mum goes with him. but i have to follow on in our vehicle with two wheelchairs, mine and jj's. but after the sunset period, if jj has a seizure requiring an ambulance, which he does often, i can't afford to keep going to the hospital. the afford to keep going to the hospital . the mayor of london hospital. the mayor of london nee— hospital. the mayor of london nee eeii— hospital. the mayor of london nee eeie rne— hospital. the mayor of london has said the ulez— the mayor of london has said the ulez decision has been— has said the ulez decision has been difficult,— has said the ulez decision has been difficult, but with toxic air been difficult, but with toxic eir eeneging— been difficult, but with toxic air damaging the health of niiiiene— air damaging the health of millions of— air damaging the health of millions of londoners , he says millions of londoners, he says ine— millions of londoners, he says we eeei— millions of londoners, he says we eeei er— millions of londoners, he says the cost of inaction would be eineiw— the cost of inaction would be eineiw e— the cost of inaction would be eineiw e rer— the cost of inaction would be simply a far too— the cost of inaction would be simply a far too high price to pay— simply a far too high price to pay ine— simply a far too high price to pay rne inee— simply a far too high price to

pay the theo chikomba gb news. but pay the theo chikomba gb news. nee ie— pay the theo chikomba gb news. nee it ie— pay the theo chikomba gb news. nee it ie ner— pay the theo chikomba gb news. but it is not just— pay the theo chikomba gb news. but it is not just in— pay the theo chikomba gb news. but it is not just in london.- but it is not just in london. other clean air schemes with daily charges for non—compliant vehicles have been implemented across the country. drivers in bath will see a daily charge of £9. i think we have a graphic to show you. birmingham's clean air zone will see a daily charge of £8. bristol's daily cost is £9 and driving in london's inner city will set you back at £12.50. let's try to read the small print with my glasses. i think i've got the gist of it. anywavr_ think i've got the gist of it. anywayr iei-e— think i've got the gist of it. anyway, let's speak now to neiering— anyway, let's speak now to motoring journalist quentin wiiieen— motoring journalist quentin willson _can - us i motoring journalist quentin - willson _can - us through willson, who can run us through eene-reeie— willson, who can run us through some _facts and _ willson, who can run us through some facts and figures. some more facts and figures. eweniin— some more facts and figures. quentin-ine- some more facts and figures. quentin,-the key- some more facts and figures. quentin, the key is what quentin, i guess the key is what wenieiee— quentin, i guess the key is what wenieiee ee— quentin, i guess the key is what vehicles are non—compliant. and you vehicles are non—compliant. and wee knew,— vehicles are non—compliant. and you knew, e— vehicles are non—compliant. and you knew, e rer— vehicles are non—compliant. and you know, a lot of— vehicles are non—compliant. and you know, a lot of modern cars eening— you know, a lot of modern cars eening rnrewgn— you know, a lot of modern cars coming through the system now wiii— coming through the system now wiii eerweiiw— coming through the system now will actually meet— coming through the system now will actually meet emission will actually meet the emission eieneerie— will actually meet the emission eienierie . — will actually meet the emission standards . they— will actually meet the emission standards . "er a will actually meet the emission standards. "car will standards. they will. i mean, it's pre 2005 petrol and what is it's pre 2005 petrol and what is it . pre 2015 diesels the problem it. pre 2015 diesels the problem with this is i fully support the ultra low emission zones in in inner urban areas . i mean the

inner urban areas. i mean the zone in central london has had a huge benefit and we've seen nitrous oxide go down and general pollution and it's been echoed also in cities in france and germany. so that's great. but i'm troubled by by the data in outer london in are there that many people with non—compliant cars? how much is it non—compliant cars? how much is i geing— non—compliant cars? how much is it geing ie— non—compliant cars? how much is it geing re eeei— non—compliant cars? how much is it going to cost them?— “iii" rtrzr’“ 5“ how much is it going to cost them? does 5 rtr5r55 5“ how much is it going to cost them? does this ereei— it going to cost them? does this erreei e— it going to cost them? does this affect a lower— it going to cost them? does this affect a lower demographic more men— affect a lower demographic more rnen ii— affect a lower demographic more rnen ii eieee— affect a lower demographic more than it does those— affect a lower demographic more than it does those who have have newer cars and— than it does those who have have newer cars and the— than it does those who have have newer cars and the time when the eeenernw— newer cars and the time when the eeenernw ie— newer cars and the time when the economy is really— newer cars and the time when the economy is really crumbling and we newe— economy is really crumbling and we newe inie— economy is really crumbling and we have this severe cost of iiwing— we have this severe cost of iiwing erieiee— we have this severe cost of living crisis? it's- we have this severe cost of living crisis? it's all about iining— living crisis? it's all about iining .— living crisis? it's all about rining . we— living crisis? it's all about timing . we may have to do this timing. we may have to do this eweniweiiw— timing. we may have to do this eweniweiiw ,— timing. we may have to do this eventually , and— timing. we may have to do this eventually , and we do have to do eventually, and we do have to do eenerning— eventually, and we do have to do eeneining ie— eventually, and we do have to do something to stop— eventually, and we do have to do something to stop the 40,000 erenerwre— something to stop the 40,000 premature deaths— something to stop the 40,000 premature deaths from illnesses , premature deaths from illnesses nem— premature deaths from illnesses , from pollution.— premature deaths from illnesses , from pollution. but this is nei— , from pollution. but this is nei ine— , from pollution. but this is not the right— , from pollution. but this is not the right time. so i would say— not the right time. so i would eew ii— not the right time. so i would eew ir neeie— not the right time. so i would say it needs to— not the right time. so i would say it needs to be— not the right time. so i would say it needs to be kind of eeeteenei— say it needs to be kind of eeerrrenei .— say it needs to be kind of postponed . and we need to look postponed. and we need to look at postponed. and we need to look er rnie— postponed. and we need to look er inie eieie— postponed. and we need to look at this data really,— postponed. and we need to look at this data really, really eererwiiw— at this data really, really carefully and— at this data really, really carefully and see if it does eieei— carefully and see if it does stackl- — carefully and see if it does stack.. quentin,- carefully and see if it does stack . gigi? 5 r:r:5r carefully and see if it does stack . i 5 r:r5r carefully and see if it does- stack.. quentin, do you live stack up. quentin, do you live near a busy road? you're home. i do. i live near the bayswater

ieei— i do. i live near the bayswater ieeei nere— i do. i live near the bayswater ieeei nere in— i do. i live near the bayswater road here in london. cite/gear road here in london. okay. so so road here in london. okay. so se ge— road here in london. okay. so se ge en— road here in london. okay. so se ge sein— road here in london. okay. so so go on. sorry carry— road here in london. so go on. sorry carry on. 4:5». so go on. sorry carry on. you rte— so go on. sorry carry on. you can see the pollution in your, you know, your house on the walls, in the curtains. and. and that that has been made significantly less with with the ulez zone in london. yeah . so on ulez zone in london. yeah. so on many levels it is a good idea and there's a lot of campaigners that are saying now's not the right time. well, when is the right time. well, when is the right time? and people are just kicking the down road kicking the can down the road and lots of families and there are lots of families that are living next to busy roads and they are families with with asthma varying with maybe asthma and varying other issues. as with maybe asthma and varying other issues . as yeah, other health issues. as yeah, that's absolutely— other health issues. as yeah, that's absolutely the- as yeah, that's absolutely the case. and you— that's absolutely the case. and wee weir— that's absolutely the case. and you weir eieng— that's absolutely the case. and you walk along something like the marylebone_ you walk along something like the marylebone road and you can ieere— the marylebone road and you can ieeie rne— the marylebone road and you can taste the pollution— the marylebone road and you can taste the pollution in your menin— taste the pollution in your newin .— taste the pollution in your newin . ire— taste the pollution in your mouth . it's that kind of mouth. it's that kind of neieiiie— mouth. it's that kind of metallic steely steel. so look, ine— metallic steely steel. so look, rne eeneeei— metallic steely steel. so look, the concept is— metallic steely steel. so look, the concept is laudable. absolutely— the concept is laudable. absolutely 150. it's the timing wnien— absolutely 150. it's the timing wnien ie— absolutely 150. it's the timing now which is wrong. and that's why— now which is wrong. and that's wnw in— now which is wrong. and that's why in eeiiing— now which is wrong. and that's why i'm calling for it to be wini— why i'm calling for it to be king er— why i'm calling for it to be kind of postponed , re—examined kind of postponed, re—examined and kind of postponed, re—examined enei ie— kind of postponed, re—examined enei re ieei— kind of postponed, re—examined and to look very,— kind of postponed, re—examined and to look very, very carefully at and to look very, very carefully er rne — and to look very, very carefully er rne eieie— and to look very, very carefully at the data here.— and to look very, very carefully at the data here. but it is eeneining— at the data here. but it is something we— at the data here. but it is something we need to do. '5r:

something we need to do. and of . tier-e— something we need to do. and of course , that's exactly the course, that's exactly the question they're asking in this court hearing at the moment. we'll update with that, we'll update people with that, quentin, , thanks quentin, for the moment, thanks very much. we'll you very much. we'll let you get back cleaning curtains. back to cleaning your curtains. much appreciated. thanks, back to cleaning your curtains. much ap|do:iated. thanks, back to cleaning your curtains. much ap|do:iatecwith anks, back to cleaning your curtains. much ap|do:iatecwith us(s, back to cleaning your curtains. much ap|do:iatecwith us here on quentin. do stay with us here on the quentin. do stay with us here on we iiwe— quentin. do stay with us here on we iiwe ieei— quentin. do stay with us here on the live desk on— quentin. do stay with us here on the live desk on gb— quentin. do stay with us here on the live desk on gb news. very eneniw— the live desk on gb news. very eneniw we-ii— the live desk on gb news. very shortly, we'll be— the live desk on gb news. very shortly, we'll be joined by a rerner— shortly, we'll be joined by ai former—after former health secretary after comments from _ former health secretary after comments from another former neeiin— comments from another former health secretary,— comments from another former health secretary, sajid javid, iner— health secretary, sajid javid, inei en— health secretary, sajid javid, that an ailing— health secretary, sajid javid, that an ailing nhs has made us as that an ailing nhs has made us ee e eewnrrw— that an ailing nhs has made us as a country, sicker— that an ailing nhs has made us as a country, sicker . first, as a country, sicker. first, weer— as a country, sicker. first, your headlines- as a country, sicker. first, your headlines with . aaron your headlines with. aaron hi there.— your headlines with. aaron hi there. ire— your headlines with. aaron hi there. it's1233._ your headlines with. aaron hi there. it's1233. i'm— your headlines with. aaron hi there. it's 1233. i'm aaron- there. it's 1233. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. some breaking news to bring you . breaking news to bring you. thames water has been fined £3.3 million after pleading guilty to four charges relating to polluting rivers near gatwick in 2017. the company was found to have discharged millions of litres of undiluted sewage into two rivers over the course of 6.5 hours, killing more than 1400 fish. the judge said she

believed thames water had shown a deliberate attempt to mislead the environment agency over the incident . the company supplies incident. the company supplies 1 incident. the company supplies 1 in 4 people in britain with water. some more breaking news. a 31 year old man has been found guilty of the murders of fatoumata haidara and her two young daughters who died in a flat fire in nottingham last year. flat fire in nottingham last year . jamie barrow poured petrol year. jamie barrow poured petrol through their letterbox. prosecutors said barrow, who lived in the neighbouring flat, had a grievance over rubbish , had a grievance over rubbish, being left in an alleyway and watched the fire take hold. he will be sentenced on friday at least seven people have been reported injured following a car ramming and stabbing attack by a palestinian man in the israeli city of tel aviv . the suspected city of tel aviv. the suspected attack comes as israeli forces continue their military operation in the occupied west bank, which has left ten people dead and dozens more wounded . dead and dozens more wounded. thousands of palestinians have been forced to leave their homes in the jenin refugee camp. the world health organisation says

aid agencies have been prevented from entering the camps to treat the injured and the average rate for a five year fixed mortgage deal has now moved above 6. the number of deals on the markets also dropped, driving up costs for homeowners. it comes as the uk's four major banks have been summoned to a meeting with the financial watchdog over allegations of profiteering . the allegations of profiteering. the bosses of hsbc , natwest, lloyds bosses of hsbc, natwest, lloyds and barclays will be questioned over concerns that saving rates are lagging way behind the soaring cost of mortgages . by soaring cost of mortgages. by some 4% and more on all of our stories on our website, gb news. .com .

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and welcome back to the live- desk. now thames water has sunk into more debt after being fined now £3.3 million for polluting rivers at gatwick down in surrey back in 2017, when the utility company is facing collapse after already amassing around £10 billion worth of debt . and this billion worth of debt. and this comes, too, as the chief executive officer of ofwat, the regulator , david black, will be regulator, david black, will be facing a house of lords, industry and regulators committee, no less, this afternoon, all part of its inquiry into the water industry. it will look into debt levels within the sector, which hit almost £61 billion last year. also looking at the increase to customer bills— also looking at the increase to customer bills and introducing wnei-e— customer bills and introducing what's called— customer bills and introducing what's called a— customer bills and introducing what's called a single social renn— what's called a single social ierin ,— what's called a single social ierin , iei-e— what's called a single social tariff , let's speak now to tariff, let's speak now to eeenernii— tariff, let's speak now to economist justin urquhart sewer,— economist justin urquhart stewart, who— economist justin urquhart stewart, who can join us in the eieeie— stewart, who can join us in the studio because— stewart, who can join us in the studio because ,_ stewart, who can join us in the studio because , justin, you have studio because, justin, you have been— studio because, justin, you have ireen ieewing— studio because, justin, you have been looking obviously at the nigger— been looking obviously at the irigger eierwre— been looking obviously at the bigger picture in— been looking obviously at the bigger picture in terms of privatisation— bigger picture in terms of privatisation of these utilities ireen— privatisation of these utilities ireen in— privatisation of these utilities ireen in nee,— privatisation of these utilities back in 1989, which unfortunately , both you and unfortunately, both you and i remember well— unfortunately, both you and i remember well . remember well. but i'm just looking at what the judge in

this latest case involving thames water has said with this £33 thames water has said with this £3.3 million fine, saying they've shown a deliberate attempt to mislead the environment agency, which is the overseeing body, by omitting water readings and submitting a report to the regulator, denying responsibility motty, which may be explains why there's been alleged failures by ofwat, the regulator which the laws will look at later. yeah, i mean, you ieei— look at later. yeah, i mean, you ieew ei— look at later. yeah, i mean, you ieew er inie— look at later. yeah, i mean, you look at this, this— look at later. yeah, i mean, you look at this, this entire- look at this, this entire iniweiw— look at this, this entire industry was- look at this, this entire industry was badly regulated irerere— industry was badly regulated irerere ii— industry was badly regulated before it was— industry was badly regulated before it was privatised because you before it was privatised because w-eee— before it was privatised because w-eee wner- before it was privatised because you - see what was - before it was privatised because you see what was going you couldn't see what was going on you couldn't see what was going en in— you couldn't see what was going en in-rirei— you couldn't see what was going on in-first-and- you couldn't see what was going on in-first-and it's. on in the first place. and it's ireen— on in the first place. and it's ireen-weree— on in the first place. and it's been worse regulated post been even worse regulated post it been even worse regulated post ir—iiin-i- it because they didn't do enrrning— it because they didn't do anything terms of actually anything in terms of actually enewing—eewl anything in terms of actually. showing—say what showing any muscle to say what the standards— showing any muscle to say what the standards should be and make eerweiiw— the standards should be and make sure actually they— the standards should be and make sure actually they running sure actually they are running ireineeeee— sure actually they are running businesses-were- sure actually they are running businesses were providing businesses which were providing the businesses which were providing ine—eewiee- businesses which were providing the—service and. the right standard service and getting— the right standard service and getting mere— the right standard service and getting more investment in which iner— getting more investment in which inew-eien— getting more investment in which inew-eien-ner- getting more investment in which they-start-but thenl they did to start with. but then ener— they did to start with. but then that changed and you these that changed and you saw these regulators then not paying attention going on. attention to what was going on. there short term investors, there were short term investors, particularly private equity particularly from private equity coming money of coming in, taking money out of the more debt the business, getting more debt in them to get in again, allowing them to get bigger without seeing bigger dividends without seeing the elements regulation the right elements of regulation . is it fair to

the right elements of regulation . is it fairto say the right elements of regulation . is it fair to say that perhaps orwei— . is it fair to say that perhaps orwei-newe— is it fair to say that perhaps ofwat have expertise ofwat didn't have the expertise to - acknowledge - ofwat didn't have the expertise to acknowledge and see to actually acknowledge and see wnei— to actually acknowledge and see wnei-geing— to actually acknowledge and see wnei-geing en— to actually acknowledge and see what-going on in— to actually acknowledge and see what going on in terms of what was going on in terms of wnei— what was going on in terms of we ee— what was going on in terms of we new— what was going on in terms of what some may allege was pretty ereeriwe—i- what some may allege was pretty creative—i think- creative accounting? i think were— creative accounting? i think that's probably quite right. mind many people up mind you, how many people get up in—eew— mind you, how many people get up in—eew i- mind you, how many people get up in—eew i went- in the morning and say, i want to in the morning and say, i want re-weier— in the morning and say, i want to -water regulator- in the morning and say, i want to water regulator and what to be a water regulator and what do to be a water regulator and what rte-ie— to be a water regulator and what rte-re reek— to be a water regulator and what do-to look at? - to be a water regulator and what do-to look at? you- to be a water regulator and what do to look at? 4:5. do i need to look at? you have to actually understand not just that accounting that industry, but accounting practises some some practises and some in some some creative practises creative accounting practises the using the three letters been using a city at the moment, fashion ones, environmental, esg, environmental, and environmental, sustainable and governance. if businesses can't run like that, you shouldn't invest them. these water invest in them. these water eernenrriee— invest in them. these water companies-every- invest in them. these water. companies-every single companies fail on every single enelineee. — companies fail on every single one lthose. so _ companies fail on every single one lthose. so what- companies fail on every single one those. : one of those. so what does the regulator to do? put up regulator need to do? put up those against those letters against what they're with those they're seeing with those businesses and see whether they're behaving in they're now behaving in the right of way? the right sort of way? the eeneeigner— right sort of way? the campaigner for- ” q5 , the campaigner for josh howie, right sort of way? the- campaigner forjosh howie, he's ireen— campaigner forjosh howie, he's ireen rew— campaigner forjosh howie, he's been very-about- campaigner forjosh howie, he's been very about wanting an been very vocal about wanting an enereernenri— been very vocal about wanting an enforcement order— been very vocal about wanting an enforcement order for the gewernneni— enforcement order for the government to- enforcement order for the government to take control of ewerriiee— government to take control of supplies. that's— government to take control of supplies. that's different, ien-i— supplies. that's different, ien-ilie— supplies. that's different, isn't to nationalisation ? isn't it, to nationalisation? ween. — isn't it, to nationalisation? ween. ie— isn't it, to nationalisation? yeah. is that— isn't it, to nationalisation? yeah. is that nationalisation wewii— yeah. is that nationalisation would actually— yeah. is that nationalisation would actually achieve a great ieei. — would actually achieve a great ieei. ire— would actually achieve a great deal. it's actually— would actually achieve a great deal. e f 5g deal. it's actually just making sure you've actually got investment type of investment going, which is long term, proper to actually

proper regulation to actually make actually make sure it's actually happening. i in 1989, happening. i mean, back in 1989, the happening. i mean, back in 1989, ine—were— the big headlines were we're rerrieeing— the big headlines were we're replacing sewers. yes. replacing victorian sewers. yes. war,— replacing victorian sewers. yes. war, ieei— replacing victorian sewers. yes. wen, ieer weer— replacing victorian sewers. yes. well, last year i— replacing victorian sewers. yes. well, last year i saw thames werer— well, last year i saw thames weier geing— well, last year i saw thames water doing an— well, last year i saw thames water doing an advertising eeneeign— water doing an advertising campaign replacing victorian eewe— campaign replacing victorian ewe-eo— campaign replacing victorian eewe-ecrweere- campaign replacing victorian says 30 years ago. says that was 30 years ago. senerning— says that was 30 years ago. - something—happened . something should have happened. in something should have happened. in—ien-r— something should have happened. in—ien-r tiere- in the meantime, isn't there a tax advantage for them in terms of investing their own of investing in their own industry? there a industry? i mean, there is a tax break for yes, break available for them. yes, there yes. and it's, you there is, yes. and it's, you knew,— there is, yes. and it's, you knew, eni— there is, yes. and it's, you know, and what- there is, yes. and it's, you know, and what the- e5r:5$r:5; $55 and it's, you know, and what the government can-if— know, and what the government eenlir-weni— know, and what the government eenlir-weni ie- know, and what the government can-if-want to get- know, and what the government can if want to get more can do if they want to get more ieng— can do if they want to get more long-investment,- can do if they want to get more long-investment, it- can do if they want to get more long investment, it is long term investment, it is ereeiing— long term investment, it is creating incentives. in; long term investment, it is creating incentives. 5r:5;«r r:r:5r5 e creating incentives. they don't newe— creating incentives. they don't have money. they have to spend any money. they have to spend any money. they have right have to create the right environment get domestic environment to get domestic money, money money, longer term for money instance. a lot of our pension money good invest in money would be good to invest in those you look at those areas. and you look at some of the investors in these water companies, find quite water companies, we find quite a lot and university lot of canadian and university pension. sovereign pension. well, even sovereign renne— pension. well, even sovereign rwnie—irneirii pension. well, even sovereign- funds_dhabi and funds from abroad, abu dhabi and cnine. — funds from abroad, abu dhabi and cnine. light— funds from abroad, abu dhabi and china. iright saying— funds from abroad, abu dhabi and china. iright saying yes,- funds from abroad, abu dhabi and china. q5 5g china. i right saying yes, we had temasek had singapore with temasek in for while. sure they're still for a while. sure they're still inere. — for a while. sure they're still| there. _ because there. i'm quite right because iner— there. i'm quite right because inew-ee— there. i'm quite right becausej rnew-ee-eieeiw they see this as good, steady, ieng— they see this as good, steady, ieng rein— they see this as good, steady, long term assets,— they see this as good, steady, long term assets, which is never going— long term assets, which is never geing-ire— long term assets, which is never geinglire eiwewe— long term assets, which is never going be always going to going to be always going to need it going to be always going to need ii—eewree— going to be always going to need it_course what- going to be always going to need it_course what the. it there. but of course what the eriwerieeiien— it there. but of course what the privatisation, think privatisation, i think i think neer— privatisation, i think i think neer-ien-r- privatisation, i think i think most don't understand most people don't understand it was supposed to be creating eeneeiiiien— competition. no, it wasn't. ineee— competition. no, it wasn't. these-local- competition. no, it wasn't. these local monopolies these were local monopolies and wnen—neneeew- these were local monopolies and wnen—neneeew i these were local monopolies and when monopoly , you

when only got a monopoly, you newe— when only got a monopoly, you havelkeep_ when only got a monopoly, you have-keep even— when only got a monopoly, you have keep even more of eye have to keep even more of an eye on have to keep even more of an eye ene—we inew-re- on it to make sure they're renewing— on it to make sure they're behaving properly. �*fri�*55 behaving properly. what about the that the embarrassment factor that do sovereign be sovereign funds now want to be associated this , associated with all this, beanng associated with all this, bearing mind, you say, you bearing in mind, as you say, you know, environmental know, the environmental considerations they have to show to their own investors? absolutely i you're absolutely i mean, if you're eering— absolutely i mean, if you're eering-ewr- absolutely i mean, if you're saying-our moneyj absolutely i mean, if you're- saying-our money from saying i've taken our money from this saying i've taken our money from the geniewier— saying i've taken our money from this particular country and i'm inweeiing— this particular country and i'm investing-water- investing in these water eernenrriee— investing in these water companies they've investing in these water comp doing they've investing in these water comp doing for they've investing in these water comp doing for the they've investing in these water compdoing for the past they've investing in these water compdoing for the past fewrey've been doing for the past few weee— been doing for the past few weere eni— been doing for the past few years, and they're now shown to be_pr0perlvr- be not being run properly, to wire— be not being run properly, to write-selam. _ be not being run properly, to write selam. write as selam. one way to actually sure you actually actually make sure you actually get investment into get proper investment into a company, into a country confidence and unfortunately, that's been doing that's not what we've been doing recently. justin, as ever, thank you— recently. justin, as ever, thank wee—rer- recently. justin, as ever, thank wee—rer wewri you very much indeed for your eeeeniee—nerel expertise and joining us here in the expertise and joining us here in ine-iei-e— expertise and joining us here in the-let's actually- expertise and joining us here in the let's actually move the studio. let's actually move on the studio. let's actually move en re,— the studio. let's actually move en re, wen,— the studio. let's actually move on to, well, another issue were— on to, well, another issue that's bedevilling the people in energe— that's bedevilling the people in energe, eieie— that's bedevilling the people in energe, iere i— that's bedevilling the people in charge, dare i say,— that's bedevilling the people in charge, dare i say, or are they in energee— charge, dare i say, or are they in charge? that's— charge, dare i say, or are they in charge? that's a big gneeiien— in charge? that's a big question. yes- in charge? that's a big question. yes 05 in charge? that's a big- question. yes on the eve of its 75th anniversary, one former health secretary has issued a stark warning over the state of our nhs. yes , sajid javid says our nhs. yes, sajid javid says we— our nhs. yes, sajid javid says we nriiene— our nhs. yes, sajid javid says that britons are— \r yes, sajid javid says that britons are sicker than ineee— that britons are sicker than ineee in— that britons are sicker than those in other— that britons are sicker than those in other western countries as a consequence— those in other western countries as a consequence of the way the

neeirn— as a consequence of the way the health service— as a consequence of the way the health service was— as a consequence of the way the health service was set up and iner— health service was set up and we irein— health service was set up and that both conservative and renew— that both conservative and ieirewr wre— that both conservative and labour mps now admit that it's in ine— labour mps now admit that it's in we ieng— labour mps now admit that it's in the long term— labour mps now admit that it's in the long term unsustainable. rer-e— in the long term unsustainable. ier-e ger— in the long term unsustainable. ier-e ger rte— in the long term unsustainable. let's get the thoughts— in the long term unsustainable. let's get the thoughts of- let's get the thoughts of another former health secretary, former conservative health secretary and former health select committee chair stephen dorrell, who joins us in the studio. thank you. thank you for being here. what do you make of his then, especially his comments then, especially off of this off the back of this big announcement last week about the nhs workforce plan? i mean, it's such a contrast sajid javid views. yeah, such a contrast sajid javid views . yeah, i just don't agree views. yeah, i just don't agree witn— views. yeah, i just don't agree wiin sajid- — views. yeah, i just don't agree wirn eer-ii. i— views. yeah, i just don't agree with sajid. i agree- . yeah, i just don't agree with sajid. r5rgi5;r:5; 5 with sajid. i agree with him actually that a cross—party agreement isn't about with a medium term view for the health service would be healthy. i do agree with that. but one of the rninge— agree with that. but one of the ininge iner— agree with that. but one of the rninge rner, wee— agree with that. but one of the things that, you know,- r5rgi5;r:5; but one of the things that, you know, is a eeneieie— things that, you know, is a complete constant throughout the werew— complete constant throughout the nieierw, is— complete constant throughout the historyr is weere— complete constant throughout the history, 75 years of— complete constant throughout the history, 75 years of the weiienei— history, 75 years of the national health service have ireen— national health service have been politicians— national health service have been politicians saying that it's been politicians saying that ir-e irreken— been politicians saying that it's broken, that saying it's unaffordable. _ it's broken, that saying it's unaffordable. the first royal commission— unaffordable. the first royal commission that was set up to irreve— commission that was set up to were rner— commission that was set up to prove rnei ee— commission that was set up to prove that was set— commission that was set up to prove that was set up in the eeriw— prove that was set up in the eeriw iercre — prove that was set up in the early 1950s, it's— prove that was set up in the early 1950s, it's been going on rnrewgnewi— early 1950s, it's been going on throughout the—

early 1950s, it's been going on throughout the history of the neeirn— throughout the history of the health service.— throughout the history of the health service. and to say we're iiier— health service. and to say we're iiier ieei— health service. and to say we're illerjust doesn't— health service. and to say we're iller just doesn't stack health service. and to say we're illerjust doesn't stack up health service. and to say we're iller just doesn't stack up with the iller just doesn't stack up with we teete— iller just doesn't stack up with the facts. the— iller just doesn't stack up with the facts. the reality motty is wet— the facts. the reality motty is we nririen— the facts. the reality motty is that british men— the facts. the reality motty is that british men and women live on that british men and women live en eereeg ie— that british men and women live on average 13 years— that british men and women live on average 13 years longer than new— on average 13 years longer than new iii— on average 13 years longer than new iii ine— on average 13 years longer than they did the day— on average 13 years longer than they did the day the health eewiee— they did the day the health eerwiee ee— they did the day the health service was established. that's eeneining— service was established. that's eeneining we— service was established. that's something we ought to celebrate rerner— something we ought to celebrate reiner inen— something we ought to celebrate rather than always— something we ought to celebrate rather than always saying that inie— rather than always saying that we eweien— rather than always saying that this system that— rather than always saying that this system that served us well, not this system that served us well, ner rrerreeiiw— this system that served us well, ner eerreeriw .— this system that served us well, not perfectly . plenty of room not perfectly. plenty of room for improvement, but served us weir— for improvement, but served us weii rer— for improvement, but served us weii rer is— for improvement, but served us well for 75 years,— for improvement, but served us well for 75 years, is somehow weren— well for 75 years, is somehow irreken. se— well for 75 years, is somehow broken. so you— well for 75 years, is somehow broken. so you wouldn't share inene — broken. so you wouldn't share then? amanda— broken. so you wouldn't share then? ' : 37” rt.55r: then? amanda pritchard's assessment chief executive of the nhs. we are older , more the nhs. we are older, more complex and generally sicker . complex and generally sicker. yeah, well, yes, that's of course that _ yeah, well, yes, that's of course that is- yeah, well, yes, that's of course that is true. but the demand being made of an existing service, that's the point i'm making, is that those older, sicker people all are helped into a longer and actually a more fulfilling life by the range of public services. another thing that's always got wreng— another thing that's always got wreng eieei— another thing that's always got wrong about the _ another thing that's always got wrong about the health service is wrong about the health service ie ie— wrong about the health service ie re inegine— wrong about the health service is to imagine that— wrong about the health service is to imagine that somehow neeiinw— is to imagine that somehow neeiinw ine— is to imagine that somehow healthy life is— is to imagine that somehow healthy life is something that you healthy life is something that wew een— healthy life is something that you can delegate to the national

neeiin— you can delegate to the national health service.— you can delegate to the national health service. there are other ewiriie— health service. there are other public services— health service. there are other public services that make a key eeniriirwrien— public services that make a key contribution to— public services that make a key contribution to the— public services that make a key contribution to the life experience _ contribution to the life experience of those people. anenie— experience of those people. anenie ee— experience of those people. amanda was talking about social ireing— amanda was talking about social ireing rne— amanda was talking about social care being the obvious example. seeiei— care being the obvious example. social housing.— care being the obvious example. social housing. there's a range of social housing. there's a range er ewiriie— social housing. there's a range of public services— social housing. there's a range of public services and too often ewiriie— of public services and too often ewiriie eie— of public services and too often public six focuses— of public services and too often public six focuses on the health eewiee— public six focuses on the health eerwiee ee— public six focuses on the health eerwiee ee e— public six focuses on the health service as a catchall . right. service as a catchall. right. war,— service as a catchall. right. war, ee— service as a catchall. right. war, ee ee— service as a catchall. right. well, as as the— service as a catchall. right. well, as as the thing we protect ireeewee— well, as as the thing we protect because we're looking after rreerrie— because we're looking after rreerrie eni— because we're looking after people and actually what happens is people and actually what happens ie we— people and actually what happens is that demand— people and actually what happens is that demand that should be green— is that demand that should be ieeii witn— is that demand that should be dealt with in— is that demand that should be dealt with in social care and einer— dealt with in social care and erner ewiriie— dealt with in social care and other public services finds its way— other public services finds its wew inie— other public services finds its wew inie ine— other public services finds its way into the nhs in typically inre— way into the nhs in typically inie aer— way into the nhs in typically into a&e departments . it's an into a&e departments. it's an energenew— into a&e departments. it's an emergency admission wards ireeewee— emergency admission wards because none of— emergency admission wards because none of the other eewieee— because none of the other eewieee ee— because none of the other services are working properly to meet— services are working properly to neei ine— services are working properly to meet the demand _ services are working properly to meet the demand that they're eeiweiiw— meet the demand that they're actually better— meet the demand that they're actually better placed to meet inen— actually better placed to meet rnen in— actually better placed to meet rnen in ine— actually better placed to meet than in the than— actually better placed to meet than in the than the nhs. '5r: than in the than the nhs. and just— than in the than the nhs. and we peering— than in the than the nhs. and we peering wee— than in the than the nhs. and just putting you on— than in the than the nhs. and just putting you on the spot. can you remember how long waiting were waiting lists were when you were health mean , now health secretary? i mean, now they're seven plus million. yeah, i'm not. the answer is iner— yeah, i'm not. the answer is inn-were— yeah, i'm not. the answer is that-were shorter.- yeah, i'm not. the answer is that were shorter. there that they were shorter. there were-greene— that they were shorter. there were people, much shorter were fewer people, much shorter ,_g.o.ge._ were fewer people, much shorter ,_g.o.ge. irei- were fewer people, much shorter , _shorter. but we i , significantly shorter. but we all , significantly shorter. but we eii newe— , significantly shorter. but we eii newe ine— , significantly shorter. but we all have the we— , significantly shorter. but we all have the we all had the

neeirn— all have the we all had the health service— all have the we all had the health service has always had a ereeien— health service has always had a ereeien witn— health service has always had a problem with waiting times. aeiweiiw— problem with waiting times. aerweiiw, rne — problem with waiting times. actually, the thing that in the eni— actually, the thing that in the end neriere— actually, the thing that in the end matters most is the time rreerrie— end matters most is the time rreerrie weir— end matters most is the time rreerrie weir ie— end matters most is the time people wait to be— end matters most is the time people wait to be seen within to newe — people wait to be seen within to newe eeeenierw— people wait to be seen within to have secondary care and what we need— have secondary care and what we need ie— have secondary care and what we need re ire— have secondary care and what we need to be doing— have secondary care and what we need to be doing is— have secondary care and what we need to be doing is and sajid is rignr— need to be doing is and sajid is rigni eirewr— need to be doing is and sajid is right about this— need to be doing is and sajid is right about this all organising the different— right about this all organising the different bits of the health eewiee— the different bits of the health service better— the different bits of the health service better in— the different bits of the health service better in order to erewiie— service better in order to provide people with access to eewiee— provide people with access to eerwiee in— provide people with access to eerwiee in e— provide people with access to service in a timely way. what eeege— service in a timely way. what eeeer nie— service in a timely way. what about his his— service in a timely way. what about his his point, though, of the politicisation of the nhs and the short term thinking? and he's reflected that both labour and tory mps think in the long term what we've got now is unsustainable and he's got this idea of a royal commission , idea of a royal commission, which you mentioned back in the 19505 which you mentioned back in the 1950s address that particular 1950s to address that particular point. would that actually find more answers or new answers? well i don't think there are many new answers in this space. you know, if there was a if inere— you know, if there was a if inere ee— you know, if there was a if there was some- you know, if there was a if there was some magic bullet that was there was some magic bullet that geing— there was some magic bullet that geing ie— there was some magic bullet that was going to solve— there was some magic bullet that was going to solve all these ereiriene— was going to solve all these problems-time- was going to solve all these problems time in the problems in some time in the ieei— problems in some time in the ieer ir— problems in some time in the ieer is weee— problems in some time in the last 75 years, we'd have tripped ewerewenwell— last 75 years, we'd have tripped over-evenlwe only- last 75 years, we'd have tripped

over even we only did it over it, even if we only did it by over it, even if we only did it irw-ineee- over it, even if we only did it. by-these-complex by accident. these are complex . ner— by accident. these are complex issues . but the— by accident. these are complex issues . but the thing that is issues. but the thing that is eineiw— issues. but the thing that is einrriw wreng— issues. but the thing that is einrriw wreng ie— issues. but the thing that is simply wrong is to say that the neeiin— simply wrong is to say that the health service— simply wrong is to say that the health service is— simply wrong is to say that the health service is the same as it is— health service is the same as it is weere— health service is the same as it was 75 years ago.— health service is the same as it was 75 years ago. just look at ine— was 75 years ago. just look at the hospitals.— was 75 years ago. just look at the hospitals. look at the ieeien-e— the hospitals. look at the doctor's surgeries, look at the ireeinenie— doctor's surgeries, look at the treatments that— doctor's surgeries, look at the treatments that are available. reek— treatments that are available. ieek ei— treatments that are available. ieek er ine— treatments that are available. look at the digital technology iner— look at the digital technology rner eereene— look at the digital technology that supports the treatments . that supports the treatments. it's that supports the treatments. ir-e ieei— that supports the treatments. ir-e reei nei— that supports the treatments. it's just not true— that supports the treatments. it's just not true to say that ire— it's just not true to say that we we — it's just not true to say that it's the same— it's just not true to say that it's the same as— it's just not true to say that it's the same as it was 75 years ege. — it's the same as it was 75 years ege. one— it's the same as it was 75 years ege. one ring— it's the same as it was 75 years ago. one thing rishi- it's the same as it was 75 years ago. 5g 35 r: ago. one thing rishi sunak said last week when he announced the nhs workforce plan was that past governments have avoided the challenges and we are tackling them well now. i guess the first ining— them well now. i guess the first ining ii— them well now. i guess the first rning re eew— them well now. i guess the first thing i'd say around— them well now. i guess the first thing i'd say around the- thing i'd say around the workforce— thing i'd say around the workforce plan is that at the rnerneni— workforce plan is that at the rnerneni rew— workforce plan is that at the moment 10% of— workforce plan is that at the moment 10% of all the positions in ine— moment 10% of all the positions in we neeiin— moment 10% of all the positions in the health service are vacant . ane— in the health service are vacant . ani ien-i— in the health service are vacant . and isn't that— in the health service are vacant . and isn't that something to do witn— . and isn't that something to do wiin rne— . and isn't that something to do with the terms— . and isn't that something to do with the terms and conditions iner— with the terms and conditions we ine— with the terms and conditions that the health— with the terms and conditions that the health service offers? ine— that the health service offers? ine neeiin— that the health service offers? the health service is needing to recruit— the health service is needing to remit rreerrie— the health service is needing to recruit people in— the health service is needing to recruit people in a— the health service is needing to recruit people in a competitive ieirewr— recruit people in a competitive labour market— recruit people in a competitive labour market and that there is a labour market and that there is e key— labour market and that there is e key ieewe— labour market and that there is e kew rer— labour market and that there is a key issue for the— labour market and that there is a key issue for the health eewiee— a key issue for the health eerwiee ie— a key issue for the health service to ensure that it is a

get— service to ensure that it is a get eneiewer— service to ensure that it is a get eneiewer .— service to ensure that it is a good employer , a place where good employer, a place where people— good employer, a place where rreerrie went— good employer, a place where rreerrie wenr ie— good employer, a place where people want to work, to which new— people want to work, to which new went— people want to work, to which new wenr re — people want to work, to which they want to devote their lives. ereeien — they want to devote their lives. stephen dowell_ they want to devote their lives. stephen dowell ,_ they want to devote their lives. stephen dowell , thank- they want to devote their lives. stephen dowell , thank you- they want to devote their lives. stephen dowell , thank you very stephen dowell, thank you very much indeed for your thoughts . much indeed for your thoughts. next time you come in, we'll try eni— next time you come in, we'll try ene fix— next time you come in, we'll try ene fix wew— next time you come in, we'll try and fix your squeaky chair. ineni— and fix your squeaky chair. ineni wee— and fix your squeaky chair. inenk wew werw— and fix your squeaky chair. thank you very much- and fix your squeaky chair. thank you very much .- and fix your squeaky chair. thank you very much . take that thank you very much. take that as a promise . it thank you very much. take that as a promise. it is thank you very much. take that as a promise . it is because we as a promise. it is because we newe— as a promise. it is because we newe rne— as a promise. it is because we newe rne ee— it is because we have the same problem . \rr:5rrr have the same problem. now let's update— have the same problem. now let's wreere wee— have the same problem. now let's wreere wee en— have the same problem. now let's update you on the latest we're getting from far east, from the near east, middle east, rather. i'm getting now a figure of ten people having been injured in this car, ramming and stabbing attack in tel aviv. that's gone up another three in the last few minutes. hamas calling that a first response. they said to israel's large scale military operation jenin on the west operation in jenin on the west bank, which has launched against militants a refugee camp militants in a refugee camp there monday, thousands of there on monday, thousands of palestinian tions have since fled the camp and officials say that ten palestinians have been killed as mark was just saying, with 100 wounded. and the israeli defence _ with 100 wounded. and the israeli defence forces- 00 50:55 and the israeli defence forces say they newe— israeli defence forces say they have arrested _ israeli defence forces say they have arrested 120— israeli defence forces say they have arrested 120 suspects and iner— have arrested 120 suspects and we ineir— have arrested 120 suspects and that their operation is nearly eeneieie. — that their operation is nearly complete. well,— that their operation is nearly complete. well, i-

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pretty much true. now this is, first of all, very serious because like you said, ten people are injured right now. we still don't know if anyone is dead. a lot of people have been taken to the hospital, but it will have an effect on what is happening in the west bank. if israel was about to stop the operation, they they just got a green light to continue to the operation. that's at least the initial assumption of what will happen now. it will look very odd if the military simply concludes their operation in jenin now, shortly after attack happenedin jenin now, shortly after attack happened in tel aviv. we're just getting a happened in tel aviv. we're just getting e iii— happened in tel aviv. we're just getting a bit more— : 5 'r . we're just getting a bit more coming : 5 ' . . we're just getting a bit more coming in tren— getting a bit more coming in ten ine— getting a bit more coming in from the other— getting a bit more coming in from the other group , from the other group, palestinian- from the other group, palestinian islamic jihad , its palestinian islamic jihad, its group— palestinian islamic jihad, its grewrr ieeier— palestinian islamic jihad, its group leader saying the attack in iei— group leader saying the attack in iei aw,— group leader saying the attack in tel aviv, the— group leader saying the attack in tel aviv, the first response to in tel aviv, the first response re ine— in tel aviv, the first response to the resistance— in tel aviv, the first response to the resistance to what is nerrrrening— to the resistance to what is nerrrrening in— to the resistance to what is happening in jenin. i mean, i gweee— happening in jenin. i mean, i gweee rnew-re— happening in jenin. i mean, i guess they're all— happening in jenin. i mean, i guess they're all going to jump on guess they're all going to jump en rnie— guess they're all going to jump en inie eni— guess they're all going to jump on this and claim _ guess they're all going to jump on this and claim some kind of reerreneiiriiiiw— on this and claim some kind of responsibility or— on this and claim some kind of responsibility or or— on this and claim some kind of responsibility or or link to it for-reasons. but- responsibility or or link to it for reasons. but i'm for obvious reasons. but i'm inink— for obvious reasons. but i'm inink-rigni— for obvious reasons. but i'm think-right in- for obvious reasons. but i'm think right in saying we think i'm right in saying we newen-i— think i'm right in saying we haven't anything gaza haven't seen anything in gaza wen— haven't seen anything in gaza wer. inere-e— haven't seen anything in gaza

yet. there's reaction yet. there's been no reaction were— yet. there's been no reaction inere-. — yet. there's been no reaction inere-. we.- yet. there's been no reaction there-. no. and- yet. there's been no reactioni there-. no. and that's there as yet. no. and that's quite interesting . it tells us a quite interesting. it tells us a couple of things. first of all, we have to remember that hamas is the ruler of gaza and it is the sovereign, so say , in the sovereign, so to say, in there. hamas is not there. and hamas is not interested in being dragged into a war with israel. in fact , it's a war with israel. in fact, it's still licking its wound from the wounds from the last conflict with israel in 2021. islamic jihad is more radical, more militant, has less to lose really, and is more trigger happyr really, and is more trigger happy, so to say. so if we were to see any response , it would to see any response, it would likely be from islamic jihad . likely be from islamic jihad. but it also seems as if they're trying now to just really watch what's happening before they respond. if they respond . respond. if they respond. because sometimes we see these lone wolves carrying out these attacks like we see now. there's nothing that indicates that this man was linked to hamas or islamic jihad. man was linked to hamas or islamic jihad . we simply don't islamic jihad. we simply don't know that he could simply just be a lone wolf doing the dirty work them. so as of now, work for them. so as of now, both of us and islamic jihad

haven't retaliated for what's happening in jenin and in jenin . several thousand palestinians newe— . several thousand palestinians newe nei— . several thousand palestinians have fled their— several thousand palestinians have fled their homes. i mean, inie— have fled their homes. i mean, we ie— have fled their homes. i mean, the ie geing— have fled their homes. i mean, the ie geing re— have fled their homes. i mean, this is going to continue, isn't it , this is going to continue, isn't ii , in— this is going to continue, isn't ii , in iigni— this is going to continue, isn't ii , in iigni er— this is going to continue, isn't it , in light of what's this is going to continue, isn't it, in light of what's happened renew— it, in light of what's happened ieiew ee— it, in light of what's happened today as well?— it, in light of what's happened today as well? this military errereiien— today as well? this military errererien ie— today as well? this military operation is not— today as well? this military operation is not over yet . e operation is not over yet. it wiii. — operation is not over yet. it wiii. rirer— operation is not over yet. it will. first of— operation is not over yet. it will. first of all,— operation is not over yet. it will. first of all, the- operation is not over yet. it will. first of all, the un is really criticising israel for the destruction it has left in jenin . it's very, very difficult jenin. it's very, very difficult for ambulance nurses and medical staff to get in and treat people in jenin . that's one thing. but in jenin. that's one thing. but also israel is saying it's not done yet. it hasn't reached its military goals yet. and their goals are to, first of all, hunt down terrorist and to dismantle all their infrastructure, which means finding rocket launchers and destroying command centre girls rooms, war rooms , so to girls rooms, war rooms, so to say where they meet and plan attacks, and also to dismantle tunnels where they are , hide tunnels where they are, hide bombs and where they manufacture

their bombs, something that prime minister netanyahu has referred to as being on an industrial scale . so israel is industrial scale. so israel is not done yet. it looks like. well, indeed, on on the bigger reiirieei— well, indeed, on on the bigger political picture,— well, indeed, on on the bigger political picture, where does rnie— political picture, where does we ieewe— political picture, where does this leave the— political picture, where does this leave the netanyahu government?— this leave the netanyahu government? is it they can now say,— government? is it they can now eew-wner-e— government? is it they can now say, what's happened in tel say, look what's happened in tel aviv— say, look what's happened in tel avivlwe— say, look what's happened in tel awiwlwe-ieing— say, look what's happened in tel aviviwe - doing the - say, look what's happened in tel aviv we doing the right aviv, we are doing the right wing— aviv, we are doing the right rning-rignr- aviv, we are doing the right thing right reasons. thing for the right reasons. ire— thing for the right reasons. we exeeeiw— thing for the right reasons. it's exactly the— thing for the right reasons. it's exactly the right- it's exactly the right assumption that you're bringing in here. i think 20 minutes after the attack in tel aviv , after the attack in tel aviv, the finance minister who belongs to one of the far right parties in the government, who is also a member of the security cabinet, said, , this is exactly why said, look, this is exactly why we're in jenin. this is exactly why we're protecting you. that's according to him. and this is why the military operation will continue. now, he has a seat at the security cabinet. so we will expect the government to use this as an excuse or maybe to justify the military operation in jenin. yeah, and justify the military operation in jenin . yeah, and yet they're in jenin. yeah, and yet they're rrwing— in jenin. yeah, and yet they're rrwing re— in jenin. yeah, and yet they're rrwing re twerirw— in jenin. yeah, and yet they're trying to justify it.— 5 5 5 yeah, and yet they're trying to justify it. but we're neering— trying to justify it. but we're neering rner— trying to justify it. but we're hearing that jeanine main neeeirei— hearing that jeanine main hospital was— hearing that jeanine main hospital was attacked with with

reer— hospital was attacked with with reer gee— hospital was attacked with with reer gee ,— hospital was attacked with with tea gee , rreerrie— hospital was attacked with with tear gas , people trying to tear gas, people trying to erewiie— tear gas, people trying to provide first— tear gas, people trying to provide first aid have been eewgnr— provide first aid have been eewgnr we— provide first aid have been eewgnr we in— provide first aid have been caught up in it.— provide first aid have been caught up in it. ambulance nurses. it's— caught up in it. ambulance nurses . e r: it nurses. it's always difficult for israel to justify large scale operations in civilian areas because, first of all, civilians will be hit. it's simply impossible when you're engaging in what looks like urban warfare. it's impossible not to target civilians. and israel seems to be reckless sometimes, at least not always, but sometimes they do. and the destruction that's been left in jenin, pictures really say a lot , and especially when they're being brought out to all the biggest media in the world. so it's hard for israel to justify what it is that they're doing. but course, this now but of course, this attack now serves them some sort of justification for hunting down the terrorists . okay, yotam, the terrorists. okay, yotam, rnenk— the terrorists. okay, yotam, rnenk wew — the terrorists. okay, yotam, rnenk wew werw— okay, yotam, thank you very much indeed for bringing— thank you very much indeed for irringing we— thank you very much indeed for irringing we wew— thank you very much indeed for bringing us your response there in iereei. — bringing us your response there in iereei. iner— bringing us your response there in israel. just to— bringing us your response there in israel. just to update to the nwrnerir— in israel. just to update to the number now, we're being told ten int-wei— number now, we're being told ten iniwrei in— number now, we're being told ten inrwrei in wet— number now, we're being told ten injured in that incident in tel aviv— injured in that incident in tel aviv eni—

injured in that incident in tel aviv and indications that one woman, at least,— aviv and indications that one woman, at least, is quite eerieweiw— woman, at least, is quite seriously hurt.- woman, at least, is quite seriously hurt. a 46 year old witn— seriously hurt. a 46 year old woman with multiple systems interiee— woman with multiple systems interiee ie— woman with multiple systems injuries is how— woman with multiple systems injuries is how the authorities newe— injuries is how the authorities have described— injuries is how the authorities have described it. and in terms of have described it. and in terms er rne— have described it. and in terms of the reaction,— have described it. and in terms of the reaction, as— have described it. and in terms of the reaction, as we just iieeweeing— of the reaction, as we just iieeweeing .— of the reaction, as we just discussing, hamas of the reaction, as we just discussing , hamas saying it's a discussing, hamas saying it's a nereie— discussing, hamas saying it's a heroic attack— discussing, hamas saying it's a heroic attack ,— discussing, hamas saying it's a heroic attack , an— discussing, hamas saying it's a heroic attack , an addition in heroic attack, an addition in we— heroic attack, an addition in we ieer— heroic attack, an addition in we ieer rew— heroic attack, an addition in the last few minutes, palestinian- the last few minutes, palestinian islamic jihad saying it's palestinian islamic jihad saying ir-erne— palestinian islamic jihad saying ir-e rne finer— palestinian islamic jihad saying it's the first response of the reeieeneer— it's the first response of the resistance to _ it's the first response of the resistance to what's happening in jenin— resistance to what's happening in renin . — resistance to what's happening in renin . we— resistance to what's happening in jenin. we will— resistance to what's happening in jenin . 3:55; ll 5g resistance to what's happening in jenin . 3:55; at 5g resistance to what's happening in jenin . �*sri5; ll 5g in jenin. we will bring you more on this and all the other stories that matter to you at the top of the hour. do stay with us here on the live desk on

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newsroom. thames water has been fined £3.3 million after pleading guilty to four charges relating to polluting rivers near gatwick in 2017. the company was found to have discharged millions of litres of undiluted sewage into two rivers over the course of 6.5 hours, killing more than 1400 fish. the judge said she believed thames water had shown a deliberate attempt to mislead the environment agency over the incident . the company supplies incident. the company supplies 1 incident. the company supplies 1 in 4 people with water in britain . the family of a mother britain. the family of a mother and two children who were murdered in a flat fire in nottingham say they're relieved the killer has been brought to justice. it's after a 31 year old man was found guilty of the murders of fatumata haidara and her two young daughters in the flat fire in clifton last year. jamie barrow poured petrol through their letterbox. prosecutors said barrow, who'd been living in the neighbouring flat, had a grievance over rubbish left in an alleyway and watched the fire take hold . now

watched the fire take hold. now a developing story from tel aviv in israel . at least seven people in israel. at least seven people have been reported injured following a car ramming and stabbing attack by a palestinian man . the suspected attack comes man. the suspected attack comes after israeli forces continued their military operation in the occupied west bank, which has left ten people dead and dozens more wounded. thousands of palestinians have been forced to leave the jenin refugee camp and the world health organisation . the world health organisation. fryston says aid agency ers have been prevented from entering to treat the injured. now back to that incident we brought you at the top of this story, international spokesman for the israeli police , dean nelson , has israeli police, dean nelson, has described what happened in tel aviv. i'm right now in tel aviv. behind me is a bus stop where a rener— behind me is a bus stop where a teen erreek— behind me is a bus stop where a terror attack took— behind me is a bus stop where a terror attack took place. individual— terror attack took place. individual rammed his car into eiwiiiene— individual rammed his car into eiwiiiene in— individual rammed his car into eiwiiiene in e— individual rammed his car into civilians in a populated area of tel civilians in a populated area of iei aviv— civilians in a populated area of iei awiw .— civilians in a populated area of tel aviv , managing to injure tel aviv, managing to injure seven civilians. _ tel aviv, managing to injure seven civilians. he got out of

nie— seven civilians. he got out of nie wenieie— seven civilians. he got out of his vehicle and— seven civilians. he got out of his vehicle and began trying to eree— his vehicle and began trying to ereir rne— his vehicle and began trying to stab the civilians— his vehicle and began trying to stab the civilians that were ereeni— stab the civilians that were ereeni nin. — stab the civilians that were around him. luckily, there was an individual— around him. luckily, there was an individual ,— around him. luckily, there was an individual , a— around him. luckily, there was an individual, a civilian, who was armed, and— an individual, a civilian, who was armed, and he managed to newrreiiee— was armed, and he managed to neutralise this— was armed, and he managed to neutralise this terrorist. now, the neutralise this terrorist. now, we eeiiee — neutralise this terrorist. now, the police are— neutralise this terrorist. now, the police are here in large ree — the police are here in large rereee we— the police are here in large forces. we have— the police are here in large forces. we have the police commissioner,— forces. we have the police commissioner, yaakov shabtai. we newe— commissioner, yaakov shabtai. we newe rne— commissioner, yaakov shabtai. we have the commander the have the commander of the tel aviv— have the commander of the tel aviv-eiee— have the commander of the tel aviv-also here- have the commander of the tel aviv-also here to- aviv district also here to investigate _ aviv district also here to investigate to - aviv district also here to investigate to see what's going on,-a situational- on, to get a situational assessment— on, to get a situational assessment of the terror attack rner— assessment of the terror attack rner reek— assessment of the terror attack that took place. _ assessment of the terror attack that took place. right now , the that took place. right now, the eereeg— that took place. right now, the eereeg rere— that took place. right now, the average rate for— that took place. right now, the average rate for a— that took place. right now, the average rate for a five year fixed — average rate for a five year fixed mortgage— average rate for a five year fixed mortgage deal has now newer— fixed mortgage deal has now moved above— fixed mortgage deal has now moved above 6% for the first rime— moved above 6% for the first time rnie— moved above 6% for the first time this year. _ moved above 6% for the first time this year. the number of deals on the market has also dropped , driving up costs for dropped, driving up costs for home owners . it comes as the home owners. it comes as the uk's four major banks have been summoned by the financial watchdog, the fca will question the bosses of hsbc , natwest, the bosses of hsbc, natwest, lloyds and barclays over concerns that saving rates are lagging behind the soaring cost of mortgages by around 4. a shadow chief secretary to the treasury, pat mcfadden , says treasury, pat mcfadden, says many families are struggling to make the payments. it's very

concerning and it's like rolling financial thunder this. the rates are going up and- �*" 5555. 5r:5$ the rates are going up and up, eeriiewieriw— rates are going up and up, particularly over the past month or particularly over the past month er ani— particularly over the past month er ani ewerw— particularly over the past month or so. and every month there's eirewr— or so. and every month there's about 200,000— or so. and every month there's about 200,000 more people coming off about 200,000 more people coming en e— about 200,000 more people coming en e rwe— about 200,000 more people coming en e rwe er— about 200,000 more people coming en e rwe er e— about 200,000 more people coming off a two or a five— about 200,000 more people coming off a two or a five year fixed rere— off a two or a five year fixed rere. ir— off a two or a five year fixed rere. ir nignr— off a two or a five year fixed rate. it might have been fixed in we— rate. it might have been fixed in we peer.— rate. it might have been fixed in the past. it's— rate. it might have been fixed in the past. it's something like 2. ani— in the past. it's something like 2. ani rnew-re— in the past. it's something like 2. and they're now— in the past. it's something like 2. and they're now coming on to the 2. and they're now coming on to we kine— 2. and they're now coming on to we wine er— 2. and they're now coming on to the kind of rates— 2. and they're now coming on to the kind of rates that you've iner— the kind of rates that you've twer quoted-— the kind of rates that you've just quoted. it's— the kind of rates that you've just quoted. it's going to cost reniiiee— just quoted. it's going to cost families hundreds of pounds a nenrn— families hundreds of pounds a nenrn wnen— families hundreds of pounds a month when they renew these ieeie— month when they renew these eieeie . — month when they renew these eieeie . inergw— month when they renew these deals . ”55.9 55 month when they renew these deals . 55$g 555 555 deals. energy companies are facing financial penalties if they prioritise investors over customers. ofgem says suppliers should focus on maintaining financial resilience rather than paying financial resilience rather than paying dividends to shareholders as an action will be taken if pricing rules are abused. it comes as wholesale prices have begun to ease and domestic energy companies are expected to return to profit after five years of losses . but the former years of losses. but the former boss of energy uk , angela boss of energy uk, angela knight, says it's not just the suppliers fault . i think suppliers fault. i think regulators— i think regulators generally , though,

regulators generally, though, newe— regulators generally, though, newe ireen— regulators generally, though, newe ireen e— regulators generally, though, have been a little bit asleep at the have been a little bit asleep at we wneei.— have been a little bit asleep at the wheel, whether it's water, wnerner— the wheel, whether it's water, wnerner ire— the wheel, whether it's water, whether it's energy and i think we— whether it's energy and i think that financial— whether it's energy and i think that financial regulation is rneee— that financial regulation is rneee iewe— that financial regulation is these days extremely complicated. and what they can do complicated. and what they can ie en— complicated. and what they can ie en rne— complicated. and what they can ie en rne ene— complicated. and what they can do on the one hand, which is say to do on the one hand, which is say re irenke— do on the one hand, which is say re irenke .— do on the one hand, which is say to banks , you've— do on the one hand, which is say to banks , you've got to hold to banks, you've got to hold eeeirei— to banks, you've got to hold more capital on— to banks, you've got to hold more capital on the other, makes it nerier— more capital on the other, makes it nerier rer— more capital on the other, makes it harder for them— more capital on the other, makes it harder for them to put up the eewinge— it harder for them to put up the eewinge reree— it harder for them to put up the eewinge reree .— it harder for them to put up the savings rates . but— it harder for them to put up the savings rates . but regulators do savings rates. but regulators do newe— savings rates. but regulators do newe e— savings rates. but regulators do newe e een— savings rates. but regulators do newe e een re— savings rates. but regulators do have a part to play , and i don't have a part to play, and i don't rnink— have a part to play, and i don't rnink rner— have a part to play, and i don't think that they— have a part to play, and i don't think that they have stood in ereeeriw— think that they have stood in ereeeriw ee— think that they have stood in properly over not just this last year— properly over not just this last vearr eer— properly over not just this last yearr irwr ee— properly over not just this last year, but over several years . year, but over several years. ieeenere— year, but over several years. teachers unions— year, but over several years. teachers unions are- year, but over several years. teachers unions are calling on the government to release the pay the government to release the pay recommendations made by an independent body . members of the independent body. members of the eu in england are staging fresh strikes this week , on wednesday strikes this week, on wednesday and friday over the ongoing pay dispute. all for education. unions rejected the government's latest offer of £1,000, plus a 4.5% pay rise. more meta. the company that owns facebook is launching a new app to rival twitter. it's called threads. it will be linked to instagram , and will be linked to instagram, and it's been described as a text

based conversation app. it does appear to closely resemble its main competitor, twitter . it's main competitor, twitter. it's the latest chapter in the rivalry between the two bosses. facebook boss mark zuckerberg and elon musk , who bought and elon musk, who bought twitter back in october . twitter twitter back in october. twitter recently announced that unfair edified users that's those who don't pay will be limited to reading 600 posts per day , which reading 600 posts per day, which does seem like enough. this is gb news more as it happens, but now it is back to mark and . now it is back to mark and. pip aaron, thank you very now it is back to mark and. pip aaron, twelcome very to the indeed and welcome back to the ire— indeed and welcome back to the ire geek— indeed and welcome back to the ire ieek .— indeed and welcome back to the live desk . now,— indeed and welcome back to the live desk . now, has been live desk. now, a man has been renni— live desk. now, a man has been rewne gwiirw— live desk. now, a man has been rewne gwiirw er— live desk. now, a man has been found guilty of murder after einirring— found guilty of murder after admitting killing a young family in a neighbouring flat fire last weer.— in a neighbouring flat fire last weer. — in a neighbouring flat fire last weer. genie— in a neighbouring flat fire last year. jamie barrow,- in a neighbouring flat fire last year. 3 year. jamie barrow, who's 31, and from clifton in nottingham, confessed to police after burning down his neighbour's home with a mother and her two

young children inside . he young children inside. he confessed after a night of heavy drinking last november. now east midlands reporter— drinking last november. now east midlands reporter will— r: ” 5g \ now east midlands reporter will wallace has midlands reporter will wallace nee rne— midlands reporter will wallace nee rne ererw— midlands reporter will wallace has the story nottingham has the story from nottingham crewn— has the story from nottingham crewn-. — has the story from nottingham crown-. three- has the story from nottingham crown-. three lives- crown court. three lives tragically cut short for two mata haidara and her two children, fatima and neymar. drama, aged just three and one, died after breathing in smoke in a place they should have been safe in their home. all three lives lost because their flat on ferrao close was deliberately set on fire. the man responsible. their killer was their neighbour. today the 31 year old jamie barrow , who lives year old jamie barrow, who lives on the same street in clifton, nottingham, was found guilty of all three of their murders . nottingham, was found guilty of all three of their murders. he'd already admitted manslaughter after cctv footage from the 19th of november last year shows barrow buying cans of beer soon after he returned to buy more in the early hours of the next morning, he set fire to the

young family's flat by pouring petrol from his motorbike through the letterbox and lighting it with tissue paper. he was caught on cctv walking away despite neighbours hearing screams. by the time the police had arrived, barrow had returned with his dog to watch the fire take hold. kira rudik abdul eereiie. — take hold. kira rudik abdul eereiie. ne— take hold. kira rudik abdul details. he was— 55r: kira rudik abdul details. 5; 53 take hold. kira rudik abdul details. he was caught smiling on a police body cam . later, he on a police body cam. later, he called police, asking for updates. not good. lisa nandy erreeking— updates. not good. lisa nandy erreeking. new— updates. not good. lisa nandy speaking. how can— updates. not good. lisa nandy speaking. how can i— l. : not good. lisa nandy speaking. how can i help? newe— speaking. how can i help? neiie. nw— speaking. how can i help? hello, my name— speaking. how can i help? hello, my name is- speaking. how can i help? hello, my name is jamie . i live hello, my name is jamie. i live on farage close at covid—19 and weather next to where the fire was earlier this morning . yeah, was earlier this morning. yeah, i'm just wondering if there's any update on whether i'm alive. i can property my property or not. officers arrested barrow at his home the following afternoon when he confessed that he claimed he thought the flat was empty despite a light being on inside and a pushchair at the doon inside and a pushchair at the door. during the trial, the jury reig— door. during the trial, the jury was told that— : during the trial, the jury

was told that barrow had complained— was told that barrow had complained to- was told that barrow had complained to the council about rwiririen— complained to the council about rwiririen ren— complained to the council about rubbish left in— complained to the council about rubbish left in an— complained to the council about rubbish left in an alleyway, but ereeeewerer— rubbish left in an alleyway, but prosecutors said— rubbish left in an alleyway, but prosecutors said it— rubbish left in an alleyway, but prosecutors said it was not eeeeerei— prosecutors said it was not accepted that— prosecutors said it was not accepted that haidara was to iriene— accepted that haidara was to iriene .— accepted that haidara was to blame . barrow,— accepted that haidara was to blame . barrow, who has emotional blame. barrow, who has emotional , blame. barrow, who has emotional . wnereirie— blame. barrow, who has emotional , unstable personality disorder . nei— , unstable personality disorder . nee ererrrrei— , unstable personality disorder , had stopped taking medication a , had stopped taking medication erew— , had stopped taking medication erew nenrne— , had stopped taking medication a few months before. he told the eeen— a few months before. he told the eewn rner— a few months before. he told the eewn rner ne— a few months before. he told the court that he sets— a few months before. he told the court that he sets fires to eiee— court that he sets fires to reiex .— court that he sets fires to reiex . ae— court that he sets fires to relax . as the _ court that he sets fires to relax . as the killings rocked relax. as the killings rocked rne— relax. as the killings rocked rne gwier— relax. as the killings rocked the quiet clifton streets and retiree— the quiet clifton streets and reirirei e— the quiet clifton streets and robbed a young— the quiet clifton streets and robbed a young family of a erenieing— robbed a young family of a promising future for fatoumata , promising future for fatoumata, a promising future for fatoumata, e rerner— promising future for fatoumata, a former voluntary worker from eeneie— a former voluntary worker from eeneie eni— a former voluntary worker from gambia and her— a former voluntary worker from gambia and her children were iner— gambia and her children were we weeke— gambia and her children were just weeks away— gambia and her children were just weeks away from starting a iire— just weeks away from starting a tie in— just weeks away from starting a new life in america with their nweireni— new life in america with their husband and— new life in america with their husband and father, aboubakar. he husband and father, aboubakar. we eeie— husband and father, aboubakar. we eeie ne— husband and father, aboubakar. he said he will— husband and father, aboubakar. he said he will deeply miss his reniiw— he said he will deeply miss his reniiw .— he said he will deeply miss his family . barrow— he said he will deeply miss his family . barrow will be sentenced family. barrow will be sentenced at family. barrow will be sentenced er werringnen— family. barrow will be sentenced at nottingham crown court in the ferrie— at nottingham crown court in the near future for— at nottingham crown court in the near future for will— at nottingham crown court in the near future for will hollis gb wewe— near future for will hollis gb wewe in— near future for will hollis gb news in nottingham . \rr:5.rrr: news in nottingham. now it's ireen— news in nottingham. now it's ireen eie— news in nottingham. now it's been six months since rishi sunak set out his five priorities for government. but of course he's struggled to make any progress on the pledges. and it seems it's gone down well it seems it's not gone down well with own party. a new survey with his own party. a new survey by the conservative—

with his own party. a new survey by the conservative home- 5 a new survey by the conservative home website has by the conservative home website nee-rne— by the conservative home website nee-rne nine— by the conservative home website has the prime minister has given the prime minister a negeriwe— has given the prime minister a negative approval rating for the finer— negative approval rating for the finer tine— negative approval rating for the first time since _ negative approval rating for the first time since arriving in winter— first time since arriving in number ten. _ first time since arriving in number ten. q5. first time since arriving in- number ten. let's get more with our political reporter catherine forster, joining us in the studio. and not just him, it seems, catherine, the whole top team negative territory team are in negative territory now, according to their own support , as yes, they are. it's support, as yes, they are. it's not going terribly— support, as yes, they are. it's not going terribly well- “55 55 it's not going terribly well at the rnernenr— not going terribly well at the rnernenr .— not going terribly well at the rnernenr . ie— not going terribly well at the moment , is it?— not going terribly well at the moment, is it? it seems a long time— moment, is it? it seems a long time fren— moment, is it? it seems a long time from the— moment, is it? it seems a long time from the windsor framework and time from the windsor framework ene new— time from the windsor framework ene new ir— time from the windsor framework ene new it e— time from the windsor framework and how it was heralded and rninge— and how it was heralded and rninge wee— and how it was heralded and things were starting to turn ereeni— things were starting to turn. around _feeling around and they were feeling a bit optimistic— around and they were feeling a bit optimistic and— around and they were feeling a bit optimistic and things have reeiiw— bit optimistic and things have reeiiw rer— bit optimistic and things have really for changed the worse. ani— really for changed the worse. and i— really for changed the worse. and i neen— really for changed the worse. and i mean, it's— really for changed the worse. and i mean, it's six months reiew— and i mean, it's six months reeew eieee— and i mean, it's six months today since he— and i mean, it's six months today since he stood and made rneee— today since he stood and made rneee rive— today since he stood and made those five pledges. at the time, we rnewgnr— those five pledges. at the time, we rnewgnr .— those five pledges. at the time, we thought , oh,— those five pledges. at the time, we thought , oh, well, they're we thought, oh, well, they're reiriw— we thought, oh, well, they're reiriw eeen— we thought, oh, well, they're fairly apart from _ we thought, oh, well, they're fairly apart from stop the teete— fairly apart from stop the boats. they're— fairly apart from stop the boats. they're not going to be ree— boats. they're not going to be ree nerd— boats. they're not going to be ree neri re— boats. they're not going to be too hard to hit.— boats. they're not going to be too hard to hit. they're not werw— too hard to hit. they're not very ambitious.— too hard to hit. they're not very ambitious. and the thinking was very ambitious. and the thinking rren — very ambitious. and the thinking rren -io.— very ambitious. and the thinking was from _10, we'll- was from number 10, we'll demonstrate— was from number 10, we'll demonstrate that we can do these and demonstrate that we can do these ene rnen— demonstrate that we can do these ene rnen we-ii— demonstrate that we can do these and then we'll announce five rneree-ir— and then we'll announce five more-be bolder- and then we'll announce five more be bolder and more that will be bolder and irigger— more that will be bolder and irigger ene— more that will be bolder and bigger and better. but now it's ieeking— bigger and better. but now it's ieeking iike— bigger and better. but now it's looking like he's— bigger and better. but now it's looking like he's going to errwggie— looking like he's going to errwggie re— looking like he's going to struggle to hit— looking like he's going to struggle to hit any of them. weere.— struggle to hit any of them. really rnie— struggle to hit any of them. really, this year—

struggle to hit any of them. really, this year. so first of alb— really, this year. so first of all, inflation _ really, this year. so first of all, inflation now . now it was all, inflation now. now it was eirewr— all, inflation now. now it was eirewr irre— all, inflation now. now it was eirewr ire er— all, inflation now. now it was about 11% at the _ all, inflation now. now it was about 11% at the beginning of the about 11% at the beginning of we weer— about11% at the beginning of we weer .— about11% at the beginning of rne weer. ire— about 11% at the beginning of the year . it's currently 8.7, he the year. it's currently 8.7, he eeie — the year. it's currently 8.7, he eeie ne-i — the year. it's currently 8.7, he said he'd halve— the year. it's currently 8.7, he said he'd halve it— the year. it's currently 8.7, he said he'd halve it by the end of rnie— said he'd halve it by the end of we weer. — said he'd halve it by the end of the weer. cere— said he'd halve it by the end of this year. core inflation, errirrrring— this year. core inflation, errirrrring enr— this year. core inflation, stripping out things like energy is stripping out things like energy ie eriii— stripping out things like energy is still rising— stripping out things like energy is still rising ,— stripping out things like energy is still rising , then the is still rising, then the eenenw— is still rising, then the economy growing . well, we may economy growing. well, we may newe— economy growing. well, we may newe re— economy growing. well, we may newe re newe— economy growing. well, we may have to have a— economy growing. well, we may have to have a recession to get inrierien— have to have a recession to get inflation under— have to have a recession to get inflation under control. the eenernw— inflation under control. the eenernw iii— inflation under control. the economy did grow by 0.1, but were— economy did grow by 0.1, but that's within— economy did grow by 0.1, but that's within the— economy did grow by 0.1, but that's within the margin manufacturing output. 95 5 manufacturing output. again, the intent— manufacturing output. again, the latest figures is down. so i mean, the marking of the homework is not going well. and of course , in terms of this of course, in terms of this website conservative home, they appoint the party's base really concerned about the economic situation in and we remember him saying at this group of ikea workers i'm on it. i've got it. yeah and the trouble is, if you make those promises, you've got to deliver us. and inflation, for instance,— to deliver us. and inflation, for instance, is— to deliver us. and inflation, for instance, is not- 55; and inflation, for instance, is not really 55 and inflation, for instance, is not really up to rishi — for instance, is not really up to rishi sunak.— for instance, is not really up to rishi sunak. it's up to the bank— to rishi sunak. it's up to the bank of— to rishi sunak. it's up to the bank of england. but he decided

to take— bank of england. but he decided to take ownership— bank of england. but he decided to take ownership of it because he thought— to take ownership of it because he thought h— to take ownership of it because he thought it come he thought it would come down. he he thought it would come down. he-he-h— he thought it would come down. he-he-h-hhe- he thought it would come down. he - he'd .the credit i he thought he'd get the credit for h.— he thought he'd get the credit for h. how— he thought he'd get the credit for h. how h— he thought he'd get the credit for it. now it is— he thought he'd get the credit for it. now it is coming down, huh— for it. now it is coming down, huh h-s— for it. now it is coming down, huh h-s much— for it. now it is coming down, but it's much stickier than they thought.— but it's much stickier than they thought-another- but it's much stickier than they thought. another one. thought. give you another one. reduce— thought. give you another one. reduce the— thought. give you another one. reduce the debts.— thought. give you another one. reduce the debts. now the hahhhhh— reduce the debts. now the national debt— reduce the debts. now the national debt is now at a record high— national debt is now at a record hhgh of— national debt is now at a record hhgh of he— national debt is now at a record high of 2.6 trillion.— national debt is now at a record high of 2.6 trillion. it was 2.2 hhhhh— high of 2.6 trillion. it was 2.2 trillion when— high of 2.6 trillion. it was 2.2 trillion when he— high of 2.6 trillion. it was 2.2 trillion when he came in. so going— trillion when he came in. so gohg h— trillion when he came in. so going in completely the wrong direction— going in completely the wrong direction h.— going in completely the wrong direction in. and— going in completely the wrong direction in. and of course, as a hhhhhhh— direction in. and of course, as a hhphhhh of— direction in. and of course, as a proportion of gdp, it hit 100% hash— a proportion of gdp, it hit 100% hash week. — a proportion of gdp, it hit 100% hash week. so— a proportion of gdp, it hit 100% last week. so not— a proportion of gdp, it hit 100% last week. so not going well. it hoe-h— last week. so not going well. it how, was— last week. so not going well. it was 100.1, was it.7 _ last week. so not going well. it was 100.1, was it.7 f was 100.1, was it.7 actually slightly more than what we can actually make in terms of the economy? so that approval rating, it's really dropped like a stone since just june because june's was 21.6 and the approval rating now —2.7. there seems to have— rating now —2.7. there seems to have beeh— rating now —2.7. there seems to have been blow— rating now —2.7. there seems to have been blow after— 5 i? h�* there seems to have been blow after blow, hoeshh— have been blow after blow, doesn't there? _ have been blow after blow, doesn't there? " have been blow after blow, doesn't there? " doesn't there? i mean, last week alone, we had the court not backing the rwanda deal. so back to the drawing board. they'd hoped to send people to rwanda by by september. that's clearly

not going to happen. likely to happen mayhe— not going to happen. likely to happen maybe even- 55 5 " likely to happen maybe even before the hexa— happen maybe even before the next election. _ happen maybe even before the next election. "5 next election. they've put tens of millions pounds into this. they've got nothing to show for it. and the economy at the moment does feel like it's going in the wrong direction. and even the nhs, which of course we had this long term workforce plan last friday, went down very well . but the very immediate problems are not going away because of course they're still in the middle of lots of strikes . five days of junior doctors, consultants are going to strike. the waiting list that they said they'd now at a record they'd cut is now at a record high of 7.4 million. so all of these markers in the immediate term now. okay they may not have an election for a year and a half, but i was going to ask you, in terms of the clock ticking , how much time because ticking, how much time because they've phrase will go they've got this phrase will go long. i try and push the election— long. i try and push the election as— long. i try and push the election as long- 55 i try and push the election as long as possible. what— election as long as possible. what he— election as long as possible. what he the— election as long as possible. what is the cut— election as long as possible. what is the cut off date on that— what is the cut off date on that? .— what is the cut off date on that? i mean,— what is the cut off date on that? i mean, how much time do they— that? i mean, how much time do they have— that? i mean, how much time do they have te— that? i mean, how much time do they have to turn— that? i mean, how much time do they have to turn things around? chatt— they have to turn things around? that ga—

they have to turn things around? could go potentially— they have to turn things around? could go potentially-january. could go potentially to january 20th, but i can't imagine 20th, 25, but i can't imagine they would because who wants to go voting depths of go out voting in the depths of winter weather is vile winter when the weather is vile after no after christmas, when no one's got any but think it's got any money? but i think it's quite likely that i think it's quite likely that i think it's quite likely that they would go to autumn of next year , to autumn of next year, something they'll they'll go in the spring. but it seems like the spring. but it seems like the economy is going to take some turning round like a massive ship. so i'd be surprised if there was an election before next autumn. let's just go back to the graphe— let's just go back to the atahhte we— let's just go back to the graphic we were showing you just as we eehtthae— graphic we were showing you just as we continue marking his homework— as we continue marking his hehewett .— as we continue marking his homework . where did we get to ? homework. where did we get to? i homework. where did we get to? . ththt— homework. where did we get to? . ththt we— homework. where did we get to? tththt we ate.— homework. where did we get to? i think we did. did— homework. where did we get to? i think we did. did we— homework. where did we get to? i think we did. did we have- homework. where did we get to? i think we did. did we have we covered it all? i think we have. have we not? did we did we get tawn— have we not? did we did we get town te— have we not? did we did we get town to that— have we not? did we did we get down to small boats?— have we not? did we did we get down to small boats? i- “57 did we did we get down to small boats? i think 57 did we did we get down to small boats? i think we did,— down to small boats? i think we did, actuate.— down to small boats? i think we did, actually. so— down to small boats? i think we did, actually. so halving inflation,— did, actually. so halving inflation, the _ did, actually. so halving inflation, the economy growing. etay. —eee- inflation, the economy growing. okay—eee mel okay. so it's basically see me attet—cteeel after school cross. yes. cross case.— after school cross. yes. cross ceee. ceee. — after school cross. yes. cross cross. cross. cross,- after school cross. yes. cross cross. cross. cross, cross . cross. cross. cross, cross. i ththt— cross. cross. cross, cross. i ththt the— cross. cross. cross, cross. i think the only— cross. cross. cross, cross. i think the only currently he think the only one currently he is okay. the economy is growing . yeah. marginally. marginally of course they would say the waiting list for sort of two

years or 18 months have come down substantially . sure, they down substantially. sure, they have ambulance response times have ambulance response times have come down substantially, but they need to have a positive offering , don't they? and in offering, don't they? and in terms of offerings,- offering, don't they? and in terms of offerings, we- 5 55" e $557 and in terms of offerings, we had that ether— terms of offerings, we had that other phrase,— terms of offerings, we had that other phrase, keep your nerve wh— other phrase, keep your nerve tytv that— other phrase, keep your nerve tytv that may— other phrase, keep your nerve kyiv that may apply. now to the eeheehattve— kyiv that may apply. now to the conservative supporters within in conservative supporters within th the— conservative supporters within th the ramp— conservative supporters within th the ramp at— conservative supporters within in the rump of the party and conservative— in the rump of the party and conservative backbenchers. i he there— conservative backbenchers. i mean, is there any consideration that— mean, is there any consideration that they— mean, is there any consideration that they htght— mean, is there any consideration that they might try and change a heater— that they might try and change a heater agate— that they might try and change a leader again before next eteettehe— leader again before next election? or— leader again before next election? or they've just got to watt— election? or they've just got to watt aht — election? or they've just got to wait and see if— election? or they've just got to wait and see if we— election? or they've just got to wait and see if we can do eemeththg— wait and see if we can do something would be barking, something that would be barking, weatth-t— something that would be barking, wouldn't—events- something that would be barking, wouldn't—events of. something that would be barking, w0llastt_events of. something that would be barking, w0llast year? events of something that would be barking, w0llast year? how events of something that would be barking, w0llast year? how manyents of something that would be barking, w0llast year? how many prime the last year? how many prime hthtetete— the last year? how many prime ministers—the. ministers have we had in the paste — ministers have we had in the taste that— ministers have we had in the past? what that— ministers have we had in the past? what that is- ministers have we had in the past? 5 past? what that is very given the events of the last year, i probably say but probably shouldn't say this, but i is no universe in i think there is no universe in which they would be crazy enough to get rid of rishi sunak simply because not even penny morton with a sword of excalibur being pulled from stone. they're pulled from the stone. they're on their third in— pulled from the stone. they're on their third in a— pulled from the stone. they're on their third in a year.- : they're on their third in a year. what heate— on their third in a year. what weatt ht— on their third in a year. what would it look? _ on their third in a year. what would it look? \5 would it look? no, but you know, look frequently these look who frequently tops these ratings wallace. ratings. it's ben wallace. defence secretary. well, he frequently i mean, he's he ruled

himself out, didn't he? chose not to run always very popular with members. he chose not to th— with members. he chose not to t-h het— with members. he chose not to m net eate— with members. he chose not to run. i'm not sure that- he chose not to run. i'm not sure that that hepatahty— run. i'm not sure that that popularity would necessarily ttahetate— popularity would necessarily translate to _ popularity would necessarily translate to the— popularity would necessarily translate to the wider electorate, _ translate to the wider electorate, but i think they wttt— electorate, but i think they wttt have— electorate, but i think they will have to. _ electorate, but i think they will have to. they've made their het— will have to. they've made their het haw— will have to. they've made their het wtth— will have to. they've made their bed now with rishi— will have to. they've made their bed now with rishi sunak and they— bed now with rishi sunak and they wttt— bed now with rishi sunak and they will have— bed now with rishi sunak and they will have to _ bed now with rishi sunak and they will have to lie on it. he is they will have to lie on it. he he theta— they will have to lie on it. he is their best— they will have to lie on it. he is their best and— they will have to lie on it. he is their best and only chance. hat— is their best and only chance. hat there— is their best and only chance. but there has— is their best and only chance. but there has been a huge eathteat— but there has been a huge outbreak of— but there has been a huge outbreak of ill— but there has been a huge outbreak of ill discipline, haeheahhy— outbreak of ill discipline, basically things are outbreak of ill discipline,- basically-things are not basically because things are not going— basically because things are not gehhg wehh. — basically because things are not gehhg wett. se— basically because things are not going well. so now tories are popping— going well. so now tories are bowing-all— going well. so now tories are poppihqiall-tbe- going well. so now tories are popping all the place popping up all over the place whth— popping up all over the place whth-hettet— popping up all over the place with-better ideas- popping up all over the place with better ideas . like with their better ideas. like the— with their better ideas. like the conservatives yesterday the new conservatives yesterday .-hahhte— the new conservatives yesterday .-hahhte a— the new conservatives yesterday .-paints a picture- the new conservatives yesterday . paints a picture of . and it paints a picture of a fractured— . and it paints a picture of a fractured party— . and it paints a picture of a fractured party fighting amongst theheehvee— fractured party fighting amongst theheehvee ,— fractured party fighting amongst themselves , which is not going themselves, which is not going to help— themselves, which is not going to heth them. — themselves, which is not going to help them. catherine, thank you for that. and of course we've the liaison committee, we've got the liaison committee, the all the select the heads of all the select committees, bowling questions at him, quite him, and that'd be quite a sticky wicket for him. just use that cricket where he that cricket analogy where he was at what happened was looking at what happened at lord's. very lord's. anyway, thank you very much. now, mayor of london's much. now, the mayor of london's hhah— much. now, the mayor of london's hhah te— much. now, the mayor of london's than to expand— much. now, the mayor of london's plan to expand the— much. now, the mayor of london's plan to expand the low— “5 now, the mayor of london's plan to expand the low emission zone reaches the _ plan to expand the low emission zone reaches the high court today.— zone reaches the high court today. the— zone reaches the high court today. we will— zone reaches the high court today. we will have more on that attet— today. we will have more on that attet yeah— today. we will have more on that after your latest— today. we will have more on that after your latest weather teteeaet— after your latest weather teteeaet . — after your latest weather forecast . hi _ after your latest weather forecast . s55 after your latest weather

forecast. s55 ' forecast. hi there, aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast showers once again for many of us today with prolonged rain for some especially towards the south. but sunny spells in between a few of the showers as we've got low pressure still in control of our weather, low pressure sitting to the north of the uk. another low developing to the south along with a frontal system likely to push up some heavy and prolonged rain through the course of the day for counties. and for southern counties. and certainly showers certainly some lively showers about afternoon before about early afternoon before that prolonged rain sets in across south—west and then across the south—west and then into england , but into the south of england, but perhaps affecting south wales as well later on. otherwise as for the midlands, north wales , the midlands, north wales, scotland and northern ireland, it's mix of bright spells and it's a mix of bright spells and showers. the showers showers. some of the showers will rumble of will be heavy, odd rumble of thunder it's going thunder and it's going to feel cool temperatures generally cool with temperatures generally 17 celsius, although 17 to 20 celsius, although somewhere east somewhere like the east midlands, anglia, midlands, east anglia, before the in, could reach 21 the rain sets in, could reach 21 or 22 celsius, but it is going to turn wetter the south to turn wetter across the south and southeast into east anglia through evening. that through the evening. that rain slow early slow to clear during the early hours wednesday, gusty hours of wednesday, a gusty wind through the channel and towards

the of england as the south—east of england as well. elsewhere, the showers fading, but still 1 or 2 around for eastern scotland , north—west for eastern scotland, north—west england, parts of wales , and england, parts of wales, and temperatures at around 8 to 12 celsius. as we start off wednesday. but wednesday begins once again with showers from the word go, especially for scotland, northern ireland into central and western parts of the uk and those showers, well uk and then those showers, well fairly widely into the afternoon, scattering of these afternoon, a scattering of these downpours. but they'll move through fairly quickly on a breeze from west, breeze from the west, interspersed by sunny spells. and it's a bit warmer on wednesday, 22 or 23 celsius possible in some of the warmer spots wednesday evening brings further showers for many, especially towards the north and the west. but increasingly through thursday and friday, the showers will be confined to the northwest and we're going to see plenty of sunshine elsewhere. and what we'll also notice a and what we'll also notice is a sharp upturn in temperatures 30 celsius or more in the south—east later

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listening to gb news radio. situation in israel. this is the picture situation in israel. this is the phetate the— situation in israel. this is the picture live in— situation in israel. this is the picture live in jenin- situation in israel. this is the picture live in jenin on- 5 this is the picture live in jenin on the theet— picture live in jenin on the theet baht.— picture live in jenin on the west bank, where we're now being told west bank, where we're now being that that— west bank, where we're now being that that the— west bank, where we're now being told that the identity and names of told that the identity and names at the— told that the identity and names at the tea— told that the identity and names of the ten killed— told that the identity and names of the ten killed in this hhhhtaty— of the ten killed in this military operation coming through.— military operation coming through. now,— military operation coming through. now, the striking thing is through. now, the striking thing he that— through. now, the striking thing he that teat— through. now, the striking thing is that four are— through. now, the striking thing is that four are below 18 years eta.— is that four are below 18 years ate. the— is that four are below 18 years old. and according to the palestinian— old. and according to the palestinian health ministry at teaet— palestinian health ministry at heaet. thhe— palestinian health ministry at least, this is— palestinian health ministry at least, this is the— palestinian health ministry at least, this is the youngest, palestinian health ministry at least, this is the youngest , 16 least, this is the youngest, 16 yeae— least, this is the youngest, 16 yeate eta.— least, this is the youngest, 16 yeate ate. the— least, this is the youngest, 16 years old, the oldest, 23. the hateethhhah— years old, the oldest, 23. the palestinian ministry saying 120 have— palestinian ministry saying 120 have been— palestinian ministry saying 120 have been injured or at least treated— have been injured or at least theatet hy— have been injured or at least treated by them _ have been injured or at least treated by them , including 20, treated by them, including 20, they— treated by them, including 20, they eay— treated by them, including 20, they eay .— treated by them, including 20, they say , seriously wounded and they say, seriously wounded and we can also show— they say, seriously wounded and we can also show you a live hhetate— we can also show you a live phetate them— we can also show you a live picture from tel— we can also show you a live picture from tel aviv where there— picture from tel aviv where there hae— picture from tel aviv where there has been— picture from tel aviv where there has been a car ramming and etahhhhg— there has been a car ramming and stabbing attack— there has been a car ramming and stabbing attack ,— there has been a car ramming and stabbing attack , injuring seven stabbing attack, injuring seven heathe— stabbing attack, injuring seven heehte. three— stabbing attack, injuring seven people, three of— stabbing attack, injuring seven people, three of them seriously . there-e— people, three of them seriously . there's been— people, three of them seriously

. there's been a— people, three of them seriously . there's been a bit- people, three of them seriously . there's been a bit more detail coming in in the last few moments about that attack . moments about that attack. israeli police have been speaking thing and they are branding it a terror attack, saying that an individual rammed his car into civilians in a populated area . and this is in populated area. and this is in tel aviv managing to injure seven civilians. he got out of his vehicle and began trying to stab those around him. luckily, there was a civilian who was armed and he managed to neutralise this terrorist , which neutralise this terrorist, which we well, we don't know, but we suspect that means that that . suspect that means that that. yeah, certainly an indication perhahe— yeah, certainly an indication perhahe .— yeah, certainly an indication pethape . that— yeah, certainly an indication perhaps , that he was shot dead perhaps, that he was shot dead by a— perhaps, that he was shot dead by a ehvhthah— perhaps, that he was shot dead by a civilian who— perhaps, that he was shot dead by a civilian who was armed , by a civilian who was armed, mayhe— by a civilian who was armed, mayhe heeehhty— by a civilian who was armed, maybe possibly a— by a civilian who was armed, maybe possibly a reserve ist in the aheae— maybe possibly a reserve ist in the various military forces, of course, in israel.— the various military forces, of course, in israel. but as you ethhh— course, in israel. but as you can see, still a— course, in israel. but as you can see, still a large presence there— can see, still a large presence there at— can see, still a large presence there of police— can see, still a large presence there of police and israeli tetehee— there of police and israeli defence force _ there of police and israeli defence force people as they try to eetahhheh— defence force people as they try to establish what's— defence force people as they try to establish what's been hahhehhhg— to establish what's been happening there. we will update you,— happening there. we will update yea. et— happening there. we will update yea. at eeaee— happening there. we will update you, of course, as— happening there. we will update you, of course, as we get more them— you, of course, as we get more them hetaeh— you, of course, as we get more them hetaeh. — you, of course, as we get more them hetaeh . h— you, of course, as we get more from israel. a high- you, of course, as we get more from israel . ' 5 c5.”. from israel. a high court challenge led by five conservative councils against

plans to extend the capital's ultra low emission zone has begun. well, they say that ehahehh— begun. well, they say that expansion would- 5 5 well, they say that expansion would have a big thhahehah— expansion would have a big financial impact on motorists aha— financial impact on motorists and businesses,— financial impact on motorists and businesses, but london's mayer— and businesses, but london's hayet eaye— and businesses, but london's hayet eaye the— and businesses, but london's mayor says the scheme is needed to taethe— mayor says the scheme is needed to taethe ah— mayor says the scheme is needed to tackle air pollution. the eanent— to tackle air pollution. the current zone _ to tackle air pollution. the current zone covers- to tackle air pollution. the current zone covers all parts of the city between the north and south circular roads. but proposals want to cover the whole of the capital by the end of next month, stretching to enfield in the north, bexley in the east. croyde in the south, and heathrow in the west. let's get more now outside the- 5 5 let's get more now outside the royal courts— get more now outside the royal courts of— get more now outside the royal courts of justice— get more now outside the royal courts of justice and ellie, our national— courts of justice and ellie, our national reporter,— courts of justice and ellie, our national reporter, is there with,— national reporter, is there with, .— national reporter, is there with, | think,— national reporter, is there with, i think, some protesters as wen,— with, i think, some protesters as wen, have— with, i think, some protesters as well, have been there all morning— as well, have been there all morning as— as well, have been there all morning as well. _ as well, have been there all morning as well. ellie making their— morning as well. ellie making their point— morning as well. ellie making their point known . “533 5: their point known. yes, good afternoon— their point known. yes, good afternoon to you both. court is absolute packed today, but no sign so far of the labour london mayor sadiq khan . what there is, mayor sadiq khan. what there is, though, outside of the royal courts of justice right now, if you can see just beyond this traffic is a number of anti ulez

nato to ulez pretty testers and obviously this is live tv. so a bus has just decided had to pull up outside there. but you may have been able to make out a coffin that was being handled by some of the protesters there , some of the protesters there, many of them holding it above their shoulders on the side of that coffin. it the word that coffin. it says the word pollution. does it say the word pollution. does it say the word pollution .7 an i believe so . no pollution? an i believe so. no democracy. it says the word democracy. it says the word democracy , obviously suggesting democracy, obviously suggesting that democracy is dead. these protesters are insinuating that the council were not given the time or the correct methods that they could say yes to this expansion of the ulez scheme . so expansion of the ulez scheme. so these people here are very, very angry . they say that the angry. they say that the expansion of the ulez zone is attacking the poor. it is that £12.50 daily charge to drive a vehicle through london if it isn't compliant to ulez. and they say that only affects london's working poor the most. so how do we end up here? how do

we end up at the high court? well, there's been a ulez zone in place since april 2019, and it used to be the same as the congestion charge . so only in congestion charge. so only in the very, very centre of london that was then expanded two years later, in october 2021. and that covered the areas up to the north and south circular , north and south circular, circular roads. it then expanded or sadiq khan would like it to expand again . on august the 29th expand again. on august the 29th of this year to cover all of greater london. so the borders would now be they would reach as far as buckinghamshire , essex, far as buckinghamshire, essex, hertfordshire, kent and surrey. so this is a significant expansion. and as i said, it would charge drivers of the most polluting vehicles, £12.50 a day. so generally that means petrol, cars that were registered before 2006 and diesel cars that were registered before 2015, 18. now, if this plan goes ahead, that would mean this is the biggest clean air

zone in the world and it would encompass 5 million people. so thatis encompass 5 million people. so that is the argument that's being held in the high court today. essentially, five conservative councils are saying that this expansion is unlawful , that they weren't consolidated about these plans enough. sadiq khan, london mayor, says this is all within his powers and it's part of creating clean air in the capital. the high court's allowed— the capital. the high court's allowed this— the capital. the high court's allowed this to— 5.5: the high court's allowed this to proceed 55: the high court's allowed this to proceed to on grounds,— allowed this to proceed to on grounds, the— allowed this to proceed to on grounds, the legal basis for the sheme— grounds, the legal basis for the scheme itself— grounds, the legal basis for the scheme itself and— grounds, the legal basis for the scheme itself and the scrappage sheme— scheme itself and the scrappage scheme as well. _ scheme itself and the scrappage scheme as well. but basically it's scheme as well. but basically h-s eh— scheme as well. but basically it's an attempt— scheme as well. but basically it's an attempt at— scheme as well. but basically it's an attempt at what judicial say— it's an attempt at what judicial say h— it's an attempt at what judicial review say if the _ it's an attempt at what judicial review say if the judge grants ems— review say if the judge grants this h— review say if the judge grants this, it would— review say if the judge grants this, it would stop it in its hacks.— this, it would stop it in its tracks. while _ this, it would stop it in its tracks. while it's considered further— tracks. while it's considered fuhher us— tracks. while it's considered further us exactly that. that's what— further us exactly that. that's what wee— further us exactly that. that's what we're that's— further us exactly that. that's what we're that's what we're arguing in court at the moment. the judge did allow it to proceed on three grounds, that being that this is a new scheme, that that's what the councils are arguing , that the expansion are arguing, that the expansion is too big. it cannot be included as part of the ulez

zone. that currently exists. there needed to be a new consultation process around that , they say. they also say that the london mayor's office did not disclose important information. for example , how information. for example, how many vehicles this would in fact impact, how many families, for example, would have to upgrade their car. and there's also an issue about the scrap sewage scheme. so in these new boroughs that the ulez zone would encompass those families that do not have cars that are compliant, they may not actually be eligible for those scrappage schemes where you're given a £2,000 grant, for example, in order to scrap your car. so that would be a huge problem for families that would need to upgrade their vehicle because it isn't compliant and they would need to do so in order to make their way around london. so those are the arguments that are being brought councils being brought by the councils today and at the moment. and there is a ruling to be expected in the next couple of weeks. we are expecting this to be quite quick. court goes on holiday on

the 28th of july. so we're expecting a decision before that point. and expecting a decision before that point . and the mayor of london, point. and the mayor of london, hue,— point. and the mayor of london, hme, you— point. and the mayor of london, mhe, you mew,— point. and the mayor of london, ellie, you know, he— and the mayor of london, ellie, you know, he he is saying we mu— ellie, you know, he he is saying we will continue— ellie, you know, he he is saying we will continue to— ellie, you know, he he is saying we will continue to robustly eefehe— we will continue to robustly eefehe me— we will continue to robustly defend and this— we will continue to robustly defend and this life saving eeehsheh— defend and this life saving decision to— defend and this life saving decision to expand the ulez . he decision to expand the ulez. he saus— decision to expand the ulez. he eehs h— decision to expand the ulez. he eehs he he— decision to expand the ulez. he calls it life saving— decision to expand the ulez. he calls it life saving .— decision to expand the ulez. he calls it life saving . 5; 5 calls it life saving. he does indeed— calls it life saving. he does indeed call it life saving. sadiq khan has got adult onset asthma. and he says this is down to breathing in the capital's dirty air for a significant proportion of his life . he says proportion of his life. he says that this is a public health problem and he compares it to the dirty water, the sewage that we're talking about at the moment being pumped into britain's seas, being leaked in to britain's seas. he says that we should be just as concerned about dirty air as we are about dirty water. and he often talks about that legal first in 2021, where a coroner ruled that poor

air quality from vehicle emissions had actually contributed to the death of a nine year old girl who lived close to a very, very main road in in london. she died of a severe asthma attack. so he often refers to that case and he says that this may not be the most popular scheme . and he says most popular scheme. and he says politicians often aren't popular. but he considered it considered it to be the right thing to do. ellie, thank you very— thing to do. ellie, thank you very mush— thing to do. ellie, thank you very much indeed— 5 55 ellie, thank you very much indeed for updating 55 55 ellie, thank you very much indeed for updating us there— very much indeed for updating us there as— very much indeed for updating us there ah the— very much indeed for updating us there at the high— very much indeed for updating us there at the high court. back to you.— there at the high court. back to you. oh— there at the high court. back to you. of course— there at the high court. back to you. of course, as— there at the high court. back to you. of course, as we get more as that— you. of course, as we get more as that hearing— you. of course, as we get more as that hearing continues. still to as that hearing continues. still ee-ehe— as that hearing continues. still ee-ehe eh— as that hearing continues. still to-the gb news- as that hearing continues. still to the gb news petition to to come, the gb news petition to she— to come, the gb news petition to the pound— to come, the gb news petition to save the pound in— to come, the gb news petition to save the pound in your pocket mu— save the pound in your pocket whh he — save the pound in your pocket will be putting— save the pound in your pocket will be putting our mouth where our money or money with a mouth is. our money or money with a mouth hs-ee— our money or money with a mouth hs-ee em— our money or money with a mouth is.-to our economics- is. speaking to our economics eeher— is. speaking to our economics editor—pensionerl editor as well as a pensioner seyme— editor as well as a pensioner seymgleesh— editor as well as a pensioner saying cash society ruining saying a cash society is ruining her he— saying a cash society is ruining her the .— saying a cash society is ruining her life . first,— saying a cash society is ruining her life . first, let's get an her life. first, let's get an sheme— her life. first, let's get an update eh— her life. first, let's get an update on the— her life. first, let's get an update on the headlines with . update on the headlines with. amen— update on the headlines with. amen h— update on the headlines with. amen h is— update on the headlines with. aaron it is 131. _ update on the headlines with. aaron it is 131. 55 5 aaron it is 131. good afternoon to you, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. thames water

has been fined £3.3 million for pumping millions of litres of undiluted sewage into two rivers in 2017. the company pleaded guilty to four charges of polluting the rivers near gatwick airport over the course of 6.5 hours, killing more than 1300 fish. the judge said she believed thames water had shown a deliberate attempt to mislead the environment agency over the incident . the company supplies incident. the company supplies 1 incident. the company supplies 1 in 4 people in britain with . in 4 people in britain with. water for the family of a mother and two children who were murdered in a flat fire in nottingham they're relieved nottingham say they're relieved the been brought to the killer has been brought to justice. 31 year old man's been found guilty of the murders of fatoumata haidara and her two young daughters who died in the fire in clifton last year. jamie barrow poured petrol through their letterbox , prosecutors their letterbox, prosecutors said barrow, who lived in the neighbouring flat, had a grievance us over rubbish being left in an alleyway and watched the fire take hold . israeli

the fire take hold. israeli police say seven people have been injured. three of them critically following the terrorist attack in the city of tel aviv . they say a palestinian tel aviv. they say a palestinian man from the west bank drove into the crowds and tried to stab pedestrians before he was, in their words, neutralised by an armed member of the public. the palestinian militant group hamas have claimed responsibility, saying it's a natural response to israel's operation in the occupied west bank. a ten people, including four teenagers, have been killed after fighting in the jenin refugee camp , which has been refugee camp, which has been taking place since yesterday morning. the average rate for a five year fixed mortgage deal has now moved above 6. the number of deals on the markets also dropped, driving up the costs for homeowners. the four major uk banks have been summoned today to a meeting with the financial watchdog over allegations of profiteering. the fca will question bosses from hsbc , natwest, lloyds and hsbc, natwest, lloyds and barclays over concerns savings rates are lagging behind the

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gb news. britain's news. channel and welcome back to the live desk— and welcome back to the live hesh here — and welcome back to the live hesh here eh— and welcome back to the live desk here on gb— and welcome back to the live desk here on gb news. now, buddy , you— desk here on gb news. now, buddy , you some— desk here on gb news. now, buddy , you some o— desk here on gb news. now, buddy , can you spare a dime or a penny— , can you spare a dime or a penny or— , can you spare a dime or a penny or my— , can you spare a dime or a penny or any cash? because i ooh-o— penny or any cash? because i ooh-o hu— penny or any cash? because i don't kill cash— penny or any cash? because i don't kill cash campaign has now reached— don't kill cash campaign has now reached moe— don't kill cash campaign has now reached more than— don't kill cash campaign has now reached more than 51,000 signatures— reached more than 51,000 signatures as— reached more than 51,000 signatures as the petition has been— signatures as the petition has been launched— signatures as the petition has been launched by us this week to prevent— been launched by us this week to prevent britain— been launched by us this week to prevent britain becoming a cash soeheoy. — prevent britain becoming a cash soeheoy. me— prevent britain becoming a cash society. the petition- prevent britain becoming a cash society. the petition is- prevent britain becoming a cash society. 55 '55 prevent britain becoming a cash society. 55 5 5 society. the petition is on our website, gb news .com forward slash cash or if you've got a smartphone , use it to click on smartphone, use it to click on the qr code on your screen right now to take you to the petition . well, let's talk now to our economics and— well, let's talk now to our economics and business editor hom— economics and business editor hem homem— economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money or is— liam halligan with on the money or is h— liam halligan with on the money or is h with— liam halligan with on the money or is it with the— liam halligan with on the money or is it with the cash . well of or is it with the cash. well of course, you're a— or is it with the cash. well of course, you're a man. it doesn't hove— course, you're a man. it doesn't have so— course, you're a man. it doesn't have so sorry— course, you're a man. it doesn't have to carry cash— course, you're a man. it doesn't have to carry cash anymore. you i have to carry cash anymore. you h meom— have to carry cash anymore. you h iohhe— have to carry cash anymore. you i mean, joking aside, i mean, ems— i mean, joking aside, i mean, this is— i mean, joking aside, i mean, this is o— i mean, joking aside, i mean, this is o reu— i mean, joking aside, i mean, this is a real issue that seems to this is a real issue that seems so hove— this is a real issue that seems to have struck— this is a real issue that seems to have struck a— this is a real issue that seems to have struck a chord with people- — to have struck a chord with people- h— to have struck a chord with people- h m.— to have struck a chord with people. it is. i— to have struck a chord with people. c 5 to have struck a chord with people. 5 people. it is. i mean, this petition we launched petition we literally launched it fabulous it overnight. our fabulous digital team at gb news

digital team here at gb news launched this petition. we wanted to get to 100,000 over a number of weeks because then we can apply for a parliamentary debate. and the indication is from quite a few parliamentarians, they'll be willing to take it up. but in less 24 hours we were less than 24 hours we were already at 51,000. we just went over our. that is pretty astonishing . and you know, some astonishing. and you know, some of the emails and tweets we're getting are along the lines getting is are along the lines of, oh, just get with the modern age. do need cash these age. why do we need cash these days? can use digital days? everybody can use digital . but that's the point. a lot of people use digital. people can't use digital. ordinary, people, people ordinary, older people, people who aren't tech savvy . there's who aren't tech savvy. there's also the whole privacy issue do we want every single transaction that we make to be monitored potentially by the state? i mean, i was reading that potentially by the state? i- mean, i was reading that there's heh— mean, i was reading that there's ueh — mean, i was reading that there's some well over 5— mean, i was reading that there's some well over 5 million adults shu— some well over 5 million adults shh rety— some well over 5 million adults shh rehy oh— some well over 5 million adults still rely on cash— some well over 5 million adults still rely on cash .— some well over 5 million adults still rely on cash . yeah. do you still rely on cash. yeah. do you think— still rely on cash. yeah. do you think he— still rely on cash. yeah. do you think he is— still rely on cash. yeah. do you think h is o— still rely on cash. yeah. do you think it is a little— still rely on cash. yeah. do you think it is a little bit of an age— think it is a little bit of an age hme— think it is a little bit of an age thmg e— think it is a little bit of an age thing ? and i ask that age thing? and i ask that because— age thing? and i ask that because h— age thing? and i ask that because i found £5 in my purse, £5 because i found £5 in my purse, es hote— because i found £5 in my purse, es hote, mo— because i found £5 in my purse, es hote, mo h— because i found £5 in my purse, £5 note, and i was— because i found £5 in my purse, £5 note, and i was like, wow , i £5 note, and i was like, wow, i hovehh— £5 note, and i was like, wow, i hovehh see— £5 note, and i was like, wow, i haven't seen that— £5 note, and i was like, wow, i haven't seen that for months.

yeah— haven't seen that for months. veoh .— haven't seen that for months. veoh . o— haven't seen that for months. veoh . a hot— haven't seen that for months. veoh . a to of— haven't seen that for months. yeah , a lot of us— haven't seen that for months. yeah , a lot of us aren't- haven't seen that for months. yeah, a lot of us aren't using cash, but let's just have a quick look at some numbers here. pip, if we if we look at these numbers, we see— pip, if we if we look at these numbers, we see that not so long ago,— numbers, we see that not so long ago, .— numbers, we see that not so long ago, h hhmh— numbers, we see that not so long ago, i think-back— numbers, we see that not so long ago, i think-back in- numbers, we see that not so long ago, i think back in 2018, ago, i think it's back in 2018, if ago, i think it's back in 2018, mnem— ago, i think it's back in 2018, hieoh huh— ago, i think it's back in 2018, hieoh put the— ago, i think it's back in 2018, if can put the numbers up on if we can put the numbers up on the—sorry,— if we can put the numbers up on the—sorry, 20h,- if we can put the numbers up on the—sorry, 2012, 60%i the screen. so sorry, 2012, 60% of transactions— the screen. so sorry, 2012, 60% of transactions were still cash. ohvhoushy— of transactions were still cash. ohvhoushy o— of transactions were still cash. obviously a lot— of transactions were still cash. obviously a lot of— of transactions were still cash. obviously a lot of is used cars hook— obviously a lot of is used cars hoeh m— obviously a lot of is used cars hoeh m 20h. — obviously a lot of is used cars back in 2012. last— obviously a lot of is used cars back in 2012. last year. obviously a lot of is used cars back in 2012. last year . these back in 2012. last year. these are numbers from _ back in 2012. last year. these are numbers from uk finance , a are numbers from uk finance, a hhohhy— are numbers from uk finance, a hhghhy regoroeo— are numbers from uk finance, a highly regarded industry body. were— highly regarded industry body. ove-re m— highly regarded industry body. we're now in 30% of transactions ohhy— we're now in 30% of transactions ohhy usmg— we're now in 30% of transactions ohhy usmo cosh— we're now in 30% of transactions ohhy usmo eosh hy— we're now in 30% of transactions only using cash by 2035. at this rote,— only using cash by 2035. at this rote, h— only using cash by 2035. at this rote, h huh— only using cash by 2035. at this rate, it will be _ only using cash by 2035. at this rate, it will be less— only using cash by 2035. at this rate, it will be less than 10. aho— rate, it will be less than 10. mo shee— rate, it will be less than 10. mo .— rate, it will be less than 10. and since . 2018,- rate, it will be less than 10. and since . 2018, over 20% of and since. 2018, over 20% of hhhs— and since. 2018, over 20% of hhhs hove— and since. 2018, over 20% of atms have closed— and since. 2018, over 20% of atms have closed and many more ehoseo— atms have closed and many more ehoseo hehore— atms have closed and many more closed before that— atms have closed and many more closed before that .— atms have closed and many more closed before that . so what is closed before that. so what is driving— closed before that. so what is driving this— closed before that. so what is driving this dash— closed before that. so what is driving this dash away from cash 7 driving this dash away from cash e h-s— driving this dash away from cash ? it's basically— driving this dash away from cash ? it's basically business cost . ? it's basically business cost. h-s— ? it's basically business cost. h-s ehehshe— ? it's basically business cost. it's expensive to— ? it's basically business cost. it's expensive to handle cash. there-s— it's expensive to handle cash. there's security— it's expensive to handle cash. there's security issues handling cosh— there's security issues handling eosh though— there's security issues handling eosh ohouoh .— there's security issues handling cash, though . crikey. there are cash, though. crikey. there are seeuhoy— cash, though. crikey. there are security issues— cash, though. crikey. there are security issues with online cash as security issues with online cash os ueh. — security issues with online cash os ueh. aho— security issues with online cash as well. and we're— security issues with online cash as well. and we're concerned here— as well. and we're concerned here oo— as well. and we're concerned here oh oh— as well. and we're concerned here at gb news— as well. and we're concerned here at gb news about people who hoe-— here at gb news about people who oeo so heeh— here at gb news about people who aren't so tech savvy,— here at gb news about people who aren't so tech savvy, older heohhe— aren't so tech savvy, older heohhe ohmh— aren't so tech savvy, older people think of-

aren't so tech savvy, older people think of think of the ehoehy— people think of think of the elderly person— people think of think of the elderly person who's driving moo— elderly person who's driving moo o— elderly person who's driving into a market— elderly person who's driving into a market town and they want to hook— into a market town and they want to ooh ooh— into a market town and they want to ooh ooh ohey— into a market town and they want to park and they can't put a few quo— to park and they can't put a few quid m— to park and they can't put a few quid m u..— to park and they can't put a few quid in the machine so they can hook. — quid in the machine so they can hook. they-ve— quid in the machine so they can hook. they-ye ooh— quid in the machine so they can park. they've got a— quid in the machine so they can park. they've got a download one of mony— park. they've got a download one of mohy, mohy— park. they've got a download one of mohy, mohy ohhs— park. they've got a download one of many, many apps onto their smohohone— of many, many apps onto their smartphone. they— of many, many apps onto their smartphone. they may not be wi fi smartphone. they may not be wi h o— smartphone. they may not be wi h ho ho— smartphone. they may not be wi h ho do u..— smartphone. they may not be wi fi to do the download . they end fi to do the download. they end up just— fi to do the download. they end up just getting— fi to do the download. they end up just oehmo o— fi to do the download. they end up just getting a ticket. this is hohhehmo— up just getting a ticket. this is happening all the time and youe— is happening all the time and you've obviously— is happening all the time and you've obviously identified the oemoorohhh— you've obviously identified the demographic issue that perhaps it demographic issue that perhaps h is— demographic issue that perhaps h is u..— demographic issue that perhaps it is the older— demographic issue that perhaps it is the older generations, but i it is the older generations, but h guess— it is the older generations, but h guess the— it is the older generations, but i guess the other— it is the older generations, but i guess the other thing is the shhh— i guess the other thing is the split between _ i guess the other thing is the split between urban and rural constituencies— split between urban and rural constituencies ,— split between urban and rural constituencies , because there constituencies, because there moy— constituencies, because there moy he— constituencies, because there moy he heh— constituencies, because there may be well sort— constituencies, because there may be well sort of garages out in may be well sort of garages out m u..— may be well sort of garages out m the sticks— may be well sort of garages out in the sticks that— may be well sort of garages out in the sticks that don't have a sore— in the sticks that don't have a sore reoeuo — in the sticks that don't have a card reader. ' c55 ' 55 card reader. absolutely. and they need the because they they need the cash because they don't the technology. and don't have the technology. and it anywhere it doesn't work anywhere because there's no wi fi there. it's an age thing. there's no wi fi there. it's an oge ohmo. hom— there's no wi fi there. it's an age thing. mark-an- 555 �*" 555.3; it's an age thing. mark an urban age thing. mark it's an urban rural— age thing. mark it's an urban rural thing,— age thing. mark it's an urban rural thing, as— age thing. mark it's an urban rural thing, as you say. maybe it's rural thing, as you say. maybe n-s a— rural thing, as you say. maybe n-s a tech— rural thing, as you say. maybe it's a tech savvy— rural thing, as you say. maybe it's a tech savvy ,— rural thing, as you say. maybe it's a tech savvy , less tech it's a tech savvy, less tech savvy— it's a tech savvy, less tech savvy thing.— it's a tech savvy, less tech savvy thing. you- it's a tech savvy, less tech savvy thing. you know , the vast savvy thing. you know, the vast majority— savvy thing. you know, the vast mar-array ar— savvy thing. you know, the vast majority of younger people that you-ra— majority of younger people that you-re garag— majority of younger people that you-re gang ra— majority of younger people that you're going to meet, say, in are— you're going to meet, say, in are mraare— you're going to meet, say, in the middle of— you're going to meet, say, in the middle of london, of course, array-u— the middle of london, of course, array-u ae— the middle of london, of course, array-u be rang— the middle of london, of course, they'll be using cars, but that aaesa-r— they'll be using cars, but that doesn't mean— they'll be using cars, but that doesn't mean that young people everywhere— doesn't mean that young people everywhere smartphones. doesn't mean that young people everyvthere smartphones. doesn't mean that young people everyvthere are smartphones. doesn't mean that young people everyvthere are many, :phones. doesn't mean that young people everyvthere are many, many s. know, there are many, many horseraras— know, there are many, many households in— know, there are many, many households in this country, you

know,— households in this country, you know, a— households in this country, you know, s ro— households in this country, you know, a ra roa— households in this country, you know, 5 to 10% of— households in this country, you know, 5 to 10% of households on some definitions— know, 5 to 10% of households on some definitions that don't have a bank— some definitions that don't have a bank account.— some definitions that don't have a bank account. they are the araaakaa— a bank account. they are the unbanked because banks won't give— unbanked because banks won't give arrear— unbanked because banks won't give rrem arr— unbanked because banks won't give them an account. they raver-r— give them an account. they raver-r gar— give them an account. they haven't got the— give them an account. they haven't got the credit record or the haven't got the credit record or are earning — haven't got the credit record or the earnings. /»3». 53; haven't got the credit record or the earnings. 53». 53; haven't got the credit record or the earnings. 553». 5»; the earnings. you're not talking about i'm about nigel farage again, i'm not nigel farage. not talking about nigel farage. again. it also anything to do again. is it also anything to do with hygiene and the pandemic? because i know in my case that's when i stopped using cash, not wanting to handle all the notes and coins that have passed through many people's hands. well we were told, weren't we, dunng well we were told, weren't we, during the pandemic , one of the during the pandemic, one of the many, many things that we many, many, many things that we were told that we should avoid using cash if we can. and that aerrarary— using cash if we can. and that aerrarrry rea— using cash if we can. and that certainly led to— using cash if we can. and that certainly led to an— 35 5»; 5 �*" 5555 and that certainly led to an explosion 35 5g 5 �*" 5 5 and that certainly led to an explosion in armre— certainly led to an explosion in aarraa showing-— certainly led to an explosion in online shopping. and it aerrarrry— online shopping. and it certainly de— online shopping. and it certainly de accelerated an earsrrag— certainly de accelerated an existing trend— certainly de accelerated an existing trend away from cash. vau— existing trend away from cash. var aw— existing trend away from cash. var rhe— existing trend away from cash. you saw the numbers there. we ap— you saw the numbers there. we up eer/a— you saw the numbers there. we up aora ar— you saw the numbers there. we were up 60% of transactions. ins in cash— were up 60% of transactions. ins were in cash as— were up 60% of transactions. ins were in cash as recently, you know.— were in cash as recently, you know. a— were in cash as recently, you know, a little— were in cash as recently, you know, a little more than ten years— know, a little more than ten years ago.— know, a little more than ten years ago. arra— know, a little more than ten years ago. and obviously, that's arranged.— years ago. and obviously, that's chargea- sa— years ago. and obviously, that's chargea- so r— years ago. and obviously, that's changed. so i think the pandemic chargea— changed. so i think the pandemic arranged rasr— changed. so i think the pandemic arranged rasr rr— changed. so i think the pandemic changed just in the— changed. so i think the pandemic changed just in the way it's probably— changed just in the way it's probably changed working from home— probably changed working from home forever.— probably changed working from

home forever. it's— probably changed working from home forever. it's also changed how— home forever. it's also changed row we— home forever. it's also changed how we use cash— home forever. it's also changed how we use cash forever. but arra— how we use cash forever. but rrrs as— how we use cash forever. but this was this— how we use cash forever. but this was this was— how we use cash forever. but this was this was adding to a arena— this was this was adding to a arena rrrar— this was this was adding to a trend that was— this was this was adding to a trend that was already there. i arias.— trend that was already there. i rrrrk. narr— trend that was already there. i think. now the— trend that was already there. i think. now the other- trend that was already there. i think. now the other thing that people have observed, that is if you're not using cash, you you're not using cash, are you actually spending more because you're not acknowledging what's going with the card you going on with the card until you get that bill at the end of the month when your debit or month when your debit card or credit comes credit card statement comes through, definitely true. definitely true. countless surveys— definitely true. countless surveys show— definitely true. countless surveys show this. people spend freew— surveys show this. people spend more freely when _ surveys show this. people spend more freely when they're just going— more freely when they're just gang wra— more freely when they're just going with their— more freely when they're just going with their card and that rarrsr— going with their card and that rarrrsr arran— going with their card and that rather than if— going with their card and that rather than if you go out and you-s— rather than if you go out and yaa-s gar— rather than if you go out and yaa-s gar £20— rather than if you go out and you've got £20 in— rather than if you go out and you've got £20 in your wallet, rrar-s— you've got £20 in your wallet, rrrar-s whar— you've got £20 in your wallet, that's what you— you've got £20 in your wallet, that's what you spend that ararr. — that's what you spend that araar. ara— that's what you spend that night. and the- that's what you spend that night. 5»: 53.55 . : night. and the retail industry is not going to actually sort of discourage no, the retail discourage that. no, the retail industry treasury industry loves it. the treasury raves— industry loves it. the treasury raves-rr— industry loves it. the treasury rarsslrr gsrs— industry loves it. the treasury loves. it gets the _ : c the treasury loves it gets the economy loves it. it gets the economy moving- — loves it. it gets the economy moving- _morel loves it. it gets the economy. moving. _more tax, moving. it generates more tax, arra— moving. it generates more tax, and—badger- moving. it generates more tax, and—budget with| and it is easier to budget with sash.— and it is easier to budget with sass-rr— and it is easier to budget with sash-n rs- and it is easier to budget with cash,-it is easier- and it is easier to budget with cash,-it is easier tol cash, isn't it? it is easier to budget. the whole about, budget. the whole thing about, you you go out with £20 in you know, you go out with £20 in the back jeans pocket the back of your jeans pocket and that that's beer money the back of your jeans pocket anctheit that's beer money the back of your jeans pocket ancthe night. and beer money the back of your jeans pocket ancthe night. and if)eer money the back of your jeans pocket ancthe night. and if you money the back of your jeans pocket ancthe night. and if you buy ey for the night. and if you buy some beers for— for the night. and if you buy some beers for just- 5 35 and if you buy some beers for just two pints. rear— some beers for just two pints. rear rr— some beers for just two pints. yeah it rs.— some beers for just two pints. yeah it is rr— some beers for just two pints. yeah it is, it is. now- some beers for just two pints. 5 c c now i'm yeah it is, it is. now i'm raking— yeah it is, it is. now i'm arm you— yeah it is, it is. now i'm taking you back- 5 c c now i'm taking you back my yeah it is, it is. now i'm- taking you back-my taking you taking you back to my taking you bask— taking you back to my taking you bask-my— taking you back to my taking you bask-my youth- — taking you back to my taking you

back my youth. double back to my youth. yeah. double diamond.— back to my youth. yeah. double aramara.—ar- back to my youth. yeah. double diamond._at the| diamond. you are posing at the bar arra— diamond. you are posing at the bar and you— diamond. you are posing at the bar and you bought a round of drinks— bar and you bought a round of drinks rrar— bar and you bought a round of drinks that meant less for you. unress— drinks that meant less for you. unless demonstrably unless you very demonstrably wear.— unless you very demonstrably wear—awayl unless you very demonstrably. wear—away from went, you know, went away from the crowd, walked out to wherever cash wherever it was to get more cash arr.— wherever it was to get more cash arr—a— wherever it was to get more cash arr-a rear— wherever it was to get more cash arr-a rear sorr- wherever it was to get more cash out.-a real sort of- out. that was a real sort of srarsmsrrr— out. that was a real sort of srarsmsar .— out. that was a real sort of statement . oh,— out. that was a real sort of statement . oh, i'm out. that was a real sort of statement. oh, i'm spending more arran— statement. oh, i'm spending more rrraalrrraagrrr— statement. oh, i'm spending more thanithoughthas_ statement. oh, i'm spending more than thought was going to than i thought i was going to spend. — than i thought i was going to spend. it's— than i thought i was going to spend..it's partly- than i thought i was going to spend. it's partly about spend. so it's partly about spending-— spend. so it's partly about spending. about spend. so it's partly about- spending. _about what spending. it's also about what we spending. it's also about what ws-rarrsr— spending. it's also about what we-rather-let- spending. it's also about what we-rather-let me. spending. it's also about what. we-rather-let me use we call rather other. let me use rrrrs— we call rather other. let me use rrrs phrase— we call rather other. let me use this phrase surveillance saprrarrsm— this phrase surveillance capitalism .— this phrase surveillance capitalism . the idea that we are capitalism. the idea that we are the capitalism. the idea that we are are product— capitalism. the idea that we are the product, everything we buy, everywhere— the product, everything we buy, everywhere we — the product, everything we buy, everywhere we go,— the product, everything we buy, everywhere we go, all our consumer behaviour can then be sore— consumer behaviour can then be sore arr— consumer behaviour can then be sad as re— consumer behaviour can then be sold on to third— consumer behaviour can then be sold on to third parties without our consent. if— sold on to third parties without our consent. if you're getting samerrrrg— our consent. if you're getting something for— our consent. if you're getting something for free, you know, mere-s— something for free, you know, there's usually— something for free, you know, there's usually a— something for free, you know, there's usually a catch. and the cares— there's usually a catch. and the cares rs— there's usually a catch. and the cash is rrrar— there's usually a catch. and the catch is that we— there's usually a catch. and the catch is that we are the praaasr. — catch is that we are the praaasr. rr— catch is that we are the product. if we- catch is that we are the product. �*" 93. catch is that we are the - product. if we get to 100,000 and this goes to a parliamentary debate , it is also one of the debate, it is also one of the things that's nailed on, i think. one of the think. yeah, but will one of the questions be you are offering legal tender. questions be you are offering legal tender . so are people legal tender. so are people actually within their rights to saying, no, don't accept saying, no, we don't accept cash, going to accept cash, we're not going to accept cash, we're not going to accept cash because offering cash because you are offering legal that. this this legal tender for that. this this is issue. go to legal tender for that. this this is-issue.-go to some| is the issue. you'll go to some rreaay— is the issue. you'll go to some rreaay serr— is the issue. you'll go to some rreaay sarr ar— is the issue. you'll go to some trendy sort of fast— is the issue. you'll go to some trendy sort of fast food restaurants. _ trendy sort of fast food restaurants. now and they say, or..— restaurants. now and they say,

or. were— restaurants. now and they say, oh, we're spending all our time making— oh, we're spending all our time makrag year— oh, we're spending all our time making your chicken perfect rarrrer— making your chicken perfect rarrrer arran— making your chicken perfect rather than counting cash, i.e. we are refusing— rather than counting cash, i.e. we are refusing to— rather than counting cash, i.e. we are refusing to take legal reader.— we are refusing to take legal reader. so— we are refusing to take legal tender. so our— we are refusing to take legal tender. so our cost base is revered— tender. so our cost base is lowered because we don't have to vrsrr— lowered because we don't have to vrsrr rhe— lowered because we don't have to vrsrr rrre bark.— lowered because we don't have to visit the bank. we— lowered because we don't have to visit the bank. we don't have rhe— visit the bank. we don't have are sesarrry.— visit the bank. we don't have the security. i'm— visit the bank. we don't have the security. i'm not sure about the security. i'm not sure about are regarrry— the security. i'm not sure about are regarrry ar— the security. i'm not sure about the legality of refusing cash. i do the legality of refusing cash. i as rarer— the legality of refusing cash. i as rarer rr-s— the legality of refusing cash. i do think it's not— the legality of refusing cash. i do think it's not a— the legality of refusing cash. i do think it's not a criminal rr-s— do think it's not a criminal issue. it's probably a civil ear— issue. it's probably a civil issue. but we— issue. it's probably a civil issue. but we need to drill down rare— issue. but we need to drill down rare rear— issue. but we need to drill down into that because— issue. but we need to drill down into that because as just as you get into that because as just as you are same— into that because as just as you eer peapre— into that because as just as you get some people say, i only take sash— get some people say, i only take sasrr .— get some people say, i only take sasrr . r— get some people say, i only take sasrr . r rarer— get some people say, i only take cash , i think that's— get some people say, i only take cash , i think that's completely cash, i think that's completely fire— cash, i think that's completely free .— cash, i think that's completely free . r— cash, i think that's completely free . r ear-r— cash, i think that's completely fine . i don't think it's legally fine. i don't think it's legally fire— fine. i don't think it's legally are re— fine. i don't think it's legally rrae ra say— fine. i don't think it's legally fine to say we _ fine. i don't think it's legally fine to say we don't take cash . fine to say we don't take cash. arra— fine to say we don't take cash. ara rear-s— fine to say we don't take cash. and that's where _ fine to say we don't take cash. and that's where i— fine to say we don't take cash. and that's where i think the gb nevs— and that's where i think the gb wews perman— and that's where i think the gb news petition is— and that's where i think the gb news petition is going to lead to news petition is going to lead ra a— news petition is going to lead ra a aebare— news petition is going to lead to a debate in— news petition is going to lead to a debate in parliament about war.— to a debate in parliament about war. as— to a debate in parliament about war. as wew— to a debate in parliament about that, as well as— to a debate in parliament about that, as well as the much broader— that, as well as the much broader issue— that, as well as the much broader issue of those without smarrpraawes— broader issue of those without smartphones, those who aren't rears — smartphones, those who aren't rears savvy— smartphones, those who aren't rears savvy .— smartphones, those who aren't tech savvy . it's— smartphones, those who aren't tech savvy . it's very similar to tech savvy. it's very similar to we— tech savvy. it's very similar to we wea— tech savvy. it's very similar to we idea or— tech savvy. it's very similar to the idea of people— tech savvy. it's very similar to the idea of people who suffer from— the idea of people who suffer from wear-s— the idea of people who suffer from what's called the digital aware.— from what's called the digital divide rhe— from what's called the digital divide. the house of lords communications select committee. were— communications select committee. were rryrwg— communications select committee. were rryragra— communications select committee. were rryrag as as— communications select committee. we're trying to do their banking awrrwe. — we're trying to do their banking awrrwe. ora— we're trying to do their banking awrrwe. ore rr— we're trying to do their banking online. did it did— we're trying to do their banking online. did it did did a report online. did it did did a report an evasrry— online. did it did did a report on exactly that. _ online. did it did did a report on exactly that. they asked me to on exactly that. they asked me ra give— on exactly that. they asked me to give evidence.— on exactly that. they asked me

to give evidence. i— on exactly that. they asked me to give evidence. i was prrvrregea— to give evidence. i was privileged to- to give evidence. i was privileged to give evidence as a gb privileged to give evidence as a er wews— privileged to give evidence as a er wews was-s— privileged to give evidence as a gb news who's business and economics editor— gb news who's business and economics editor and we learnt from— economics editor and we learnt from war— economics editor and we learnt from that that— economics editor and we learnt from that that around 10% of housewares— from that that around 10% of households, right, they're not on households, right, they're not an we— households, right, they're not on the internet— households, right, they're not on the internet at all, which is unbelievable— on the internet at all, which is unbelievable .— on the internet at all, which is unbelievable . and that's not unbelievable. and that's not r-wsr— unbelievable. and that's not we arr— unbelievable. and that's not we an order— unbelievable. and that's not just an older person thing waver.— just an older person thing raawaa. rwa— just an older person thing though. two thirds of people es— though. two thirds of people es kyiv— though. two thirds of people over 65 kyiv aren't on the wearer— over 65 kyiv aren't on the wearer .— over 65 kyiv aren't on the internet , right?- over 65 kyiv aren't on the internet , right? i mean, they're internet, right? i mean, they're aware— internet, right? i mean, they're award or— internet, right? i mean, they're a third of them— internet, right? i mean, they're a third of them that are the sa—sauea— a third of them that are the so—called silver— a third of them that are the so—called silver surfers, but wars— so—called silver surfers, but wars of— so—called silver surfers, but lots of them _but- so—called silver surfers, but lots of them but also, lots of them aren't. but also, if ye— lots of them aren't. but also, rr ye a— lots of them aren't. but also, if you're a youngster in a home wrrwawr— without the internet, it's rearw— without the internet, it's rearry—yawl without the internet, it's- really _your homework really hard to do your homework rwese— really hard to do your homework rwese-wrrew— really hard to do your homework these -when .can't- really hard to do your homework these when can't email these days when you can't email these days when you can't email awe-yaw— these days when you can't email arse-yaw ear-r— these days when you can't email the-you don't hand- these days when you can't email the you don't hand in the teacher, you don't hand in homework.— the teacher, you don't hand in homework. now— the teacher, you don't hand in homework. now you email it to the homework. now you email it to we reasrrer. — homework. now you email it to the teacher. what— homework. now you email it to the teacher. what about if y-ve— the teacher. what about if yaw-ve-wr—rr - the teacher. what about if you've-wi—fi in. you've got no wi—fi in your house?— you've got no wi—fi in your house? so— you've got no wi—fi in your house? so it's— you've got no wi—fi in your house? so it's all, all, all eras— house? so it's all, all, all eras of— house? so it's all, all, all ends of the— house? so it's all, all, all ends of the age- house? so it's all, all, all ends of the age for me also, asrwauy. — ends of the age for me also, actually. and— ends of the age for me also, actually. and it— ends of the age for me also, actually. ' 5»: c 559 ends of the age for me also, actually. ' 5 5 59 actually. and it sounds a silly reason, preferring cash. i reason, but preferring cash. i remember when i was a kid. yeah. your grandparents would put money in your in your christmas card, you know, £5, £0.10. imagine life without- card, you know, £5, £0.10. imagine life without it- imagine life without it goes into— imagine life without it goes into your— imagine life without it goes into your bank— imagine life without it goes into your bank account. ' 55 into your bank account. and how can into your bank account. and how you— into your bank account. and how you not— into your bank account. and how can you not the same joy. how can you not the same joy. how can you not the same joy. how can you tip a waiter or- 5 how can you tip a waiter or waitress and— can you tip a waiter or waitress and be— can you tip a waiter or waitress and be sure— can you tip a waiter or waitress and be sure that— can you tip a waiter or waitress and be sure that they get that money?— and be sure that they get that money-7 vou— and be sure that they get that money? you can't. how a buskers

playing— money? you can't. how a buskers playing-and— money? you can't. how a buskers playing-and-just- playing music and you just want to-a— playing music and you just want to-a-imo— playing music and you just want to-a-imo the- playing music and you just want to a into the guitar to chuck a quid into the guitar that— to chuck a quid into the guitar case that all— to chuck a quid into the guitar case that all that's gone you case that all that's gone as you say—slipping. say pip grandparents slipping a mue— say pip grandparents slipping a mm 55— say pip grandparents slipping a mm 55 of— say pip grandparents slipping a little bit of-into- say pip grandparents slipping a little bit of into the little bit of money into the hands— little bit of money into the hands of— little bit of money into the hands of the— little bit of money into the hands of the grandchildren. money— hands of the grandchildren. money tn— hands of the grandchildren. money in birthday cards, you know— money in birthday cards, you know-at— money in birthday cards, you know-at-end- money in birthday cards, you know-at-end of- money in birthday cards, you know at end of your know coins at the end of your stocking.— know coins at the end of your stocking. au— know coins at the end of your stocking, all these traditions that— stocking, all these traditions that at— stocking, all these traditions that are surrounded by physical cast.— that are surrounded by physical test they— that are surrounded by physical test they at— that are surrounded by physical cash, they are all— that are surrounded by physical cash, they are all in cash, they are all now in jeopardy-_ cash, they are all now in jeopardy- ttm— cash, they are all now in jeopardy. tim bob note remember these? — jeopardy. tim bob note remember these? vou— jeopardy. tim bob note remember those? you were— jeopardy. tim bob note remember those? you were a— jeopardy. tim bob note remember those? you were a rich- jeopardy. tim bob note remember those? 495. 55 5 those? you were a rich man for ten. bob i'll tell you, let's speak now to juliette casciano in kent. now she her life in kent. now she says her life has by society has been well, ruined by society going cashless. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. i think you find yourself stuck on quite a few occasions. is that right ? pardon? can you hear us right? pardon? can you hear us okay?i right? pardon? can you hear us okay? i can. i can hear you . okay? i can. i can hear you. okay. i was just saying, you've found yourself stuck on quite a few occasions trying to pay for things and they won't accept your they won't . and your money. no, they won't. and the utt— your money. no, they won't. and the ttst goes— your money. no, they won't. and the list goes on.— your money. no, they won't. and the list goes on. _ your money. no, they won't. and the list goes on. and- your money. no, they won't. and the list goes on. and i- 5 5599555 no, they won't. and the list goes on. ' 55 5 9559555 no, they won't. and the list goes on. ' 55 5 9555555 no, they won't. and the list goes on. ' 55 the list goes on. and i know, i know. t-m— the list goes on. and i know, i know. t-m-tt— the list goes on. and i know, i know. i'm-to sit- the list goes on. and i know, i know. i'm-to sit out- the list goes on. and i know, i know. i'm-to sit out oni the list goes on. and i know, i. know. i'm-to sit out on my know. i'm going to sit out on my day— know. i'm going to sit out on my day ant— know. i'm going to sit out on my day ant tt-t— know. i'm going to sit out on my day ant tt-s gang— know. i'm going to sit out on my day and it's going to— i'm going to sit out on my day and it's going to complete me go— day and it's going to complete me go won-9— day and it's going to complete me to want .— day and it's going to complete no go wrong r go— day and it's going to complete me go wrong. i go to a restaurant— me go wrong. i go to a restaurant and they won't take

tnow— restaurant and they won't take tnow won-t— restaurant and they won't take they won't take— restaurant and they won't take they won't take cash. and so i eat— they won't take cash. and so i eat ant— they won't take cash. and so i eat ant rt— they won't take cash. and so i eat ant tt .— they won't take cash. and so i eat and if i don't— they won't take cash. and so i eat and if i don't see the sign, i eat and if i don't see the sign, ttaot— eat and if i don't see the sign, rtaot watt— eat and if i don't see the sign, i just walk out— eat and if i don't see the sign, i just walk out and you want to tnon— i just walk out and you want to tnon tog— i just walk out and you want to tnon tog ao— i just walk out and you want to see them leg up the road to get my see them leg up the road to get no oaon— see them leg up the road to get my coat tn.— see them leg up the road to get my oaon tn. ant— see them leg up the road to get my cash in. and then rush out of the my cash in. and then rush out of too watt.— my cash in. and then rush out of the wall, completely disappeared . oar— the wall, completely disappeared . oar got— the wall, completely disappeared . our cars get swallowed up . . our cars get swallowed up. two— . our cars get swallowed up. two out— . our cars get swallowed up. two out no— . our cars get swallowed up. two out no a— . our cars get swallowed up. i've cut up a card.- . our cars get swallowed up. i've cut up a card. i had to nava— i've cut up a card. i had to note .— i've cut up a card. i had to note . nat— i've cut up a card. i had to have i had to— i've cut up a card. i had to have i had to have a certain not-z— have i had to have a certain not-z nw— have i had to have a certain ba.2 new york.— have i had to have a certain ba.2 new york. i've had to oonototow— ba.2 new york. i've had to oonotototw ao— ba.2 new york. i've had to completely up and take those carto— completely up and take those oarto .— completely up and take those oarto . .— completely up and take those cards . i can't— completely up and take those cards . i can't get— completely up and take those cards . i can't get my street, my cards. i can't get my street, my ontog— cards. i can't get my street, my otttoo. ant— cards. i can't get my street, my otttoo. ant on— cards. i can't get my street, my office. and on pensions, you know.— office. and on pensions, you know, pensioners— office. and on pensions, you know, pensioners have very ttttto— know, pensioners have very ttttto nonet— know, pensioners have very little money and we need every otngto— little money and we need every otngto otter.— little money and we need every single offer. we— little money and we need every single offer. we can get, but we cant— single offer. we can get, but we cant get— single offer. we can get, but we cant get tnon— single offer. we can get, but we can't get them because you get a trump— can't get them because you get a trump tart.— can't get them because you get a trump card, you've— can't get them because you get a trump card, you've got to go onttno. — trump card, you've got to go online. tesco's_ trump card, you've got to go online. tesco's live at five ipp ooorto— online. tesco's live at five ipp ooorto ntr— online. tesco's live at five ipp sports centres are— online. tesco's live at five ipp sports centres are in totally ant— sports centres are in totally ant attortw— sports centres are in totally and utterly banned from and i cant— and utterly banned from and i cant torn.— and utterly banned from and i cant totn. two— and utterly banned from and i can't join. i've broken both noo— can't join. i've broken both ntoo ant— can't join. i've broken both ntoo ant .— can't join. i've broken both hips and i want— can't join. i've broken both hips and i want to go back to it ant— hips and i want to go back to it ant .— hips and i want to go back to it ant . want— hips and i want to go back to it ant . want to— hips and i want to go back to it and i want to do— hips and i want to go back to it and i want to do this and i want to to— and i want to do this and i want to to tnat— and i want to do this and i want to to tnat ant— and i want to do this and i want to do that and you— and i want to do this and i want to do that and you can't do it. okay— to do that and you can't do it. okay .— to do that and you can't do it. okay . tn— to do that and you can't do it. okay . tan a— to do that and you can't do it. okay . i'm a little— to do that and you can't do it. okay. i'm a little bit- to do that and you can't do it. okay. i'm a little bit of- okay. i'm a little bit of difficulty with with the phone line, juliet, which i guess is another problem in trying use another problem in trying to use the sort of mobile phones and so on. but just to ask you, i mean,

do you actually have a card? can you use a card and go online? and those things i haven't got a card. got one. i've card. i haven't got one. i've atootatotw— card. i haven't got one. i've absolutely ripped- 5.955 i haven't got one. i've absolutely ripped it up right . absolutely ripped it up right. wrat— absolutely ripped it up right. what woo-ro— absolutely ripped it up right. what you've been— absolutely ripped it up right. what you've been saying, juliet feeds into what liam was talking aboutin feeds into what liam was talking about in places refusing to accept cash. exactly. exactly liam, just come in here. that's right. places are refusing to accept— right. places are refusing to accept oaon— right. places are refusing to accept cash as— 5 55 places are refusing to accept cash as juliet 5 55. places are refusing to accept cash as juliet is 555. places are refusing to accept cash as juliet is so ably tttaotrattng— accept cash as juliet is so ably illustrating. because they don't want— illustrating. because they don't want tno— illustrating. because they don't want the costs— illustrating. because they don't want the costs of— illustrating. because they don't want the costs of handling the coon.— want the costs of handling the cost. not— want the costs of handling the cash. they want— want the costs of handling the cash. they want everything to be ttgttat— cash. they want everything to be ttgttat .— cash. they want everything to be ttgttat . tnon— cash. they want everything to be digital . then they're cash. they want everything to be digital. then they're banking. cnargoo— digital. then they're banking. cnargoo ar— digital. then they're banking. charges are less.— digital. then they're banking. charges are less. they don't nave— charges are less. they don't nawoloaw— charges are less. they don't have pay member of staff have to pay a member of staff tttorattw— have to pay a member of staff tttorattw-tno— have to pay a member of staff literally-the bank- have to pay a member of staff literally the bank and literally to visit the bank and the literally to visit the bank and too tant— literally to visit the bank and too tant nay— literally to visit the bank and the bank may be— literally to visit the bank and the bank may be further away tooaao— the bank may be further away because so many— the bank may be further away because so many banks are otootng— because so many banks are otootng town.— because so many banks are closing down. i— because so many banks are closing down. i think it's worth oawtng— closing down. i think it's worth oawtng wnw— closing down. i think it's worth oawtng wnw wo— closing down. i think it's worth saying why we got juliet on the tna— saying why we got juliet on the ttno. eno— saying why we got juliet on the ttno. ono ot— saying why we got juliet on the line. one of many— saying why we got juliet on the line. one of many gb news viewers who— line. one of many gb news viewers who have been captured , viewers who have been captured, if viewers who have been captured, tt won— viewers who have been captured, tt won two.— viewers who have been captured, tt you like, tw— viewers who have been captured, if you like, by this— viewers who have been captured, if you like, by this campaign . if you like, by this campaign. wore— if you like, by this campaign. we're now on 53,500 signatures ornat— we're now on 53,500 signatures two— we're now on 53,500 signatures since i've been— we're now on 53,500 signatures since i've been on— we're now on 53,500 signatures since i've been on air. it's gono— since i've been on air. it's gone to— since i've been on air. it's gone to tw— since i've been on air. it's gone up by 2500. so what we need to to— gone up by 2500. so what we need to to .— gone up by 2500. so what we need to to ,55..— gone up by 2500. so what we need to to juliet to— gone up by 2500. so what we need to do , juliet, is we— gone up by 2500. so what we need to do , juliet, is we need to get to do, juliet, is we need to get you— to do, juliet, is we need to get you ant— to do, juliet, is we need to get you ant att— to do, juliet, is we need to get you and all your— to do, juliet, is we need to get you and all your friends to get

onto— you and all your friends to get onto w—w—w— you and all your friends to get onto w—w—w dot— you and all your friends to get onto w—w—w dot .— you and all your friends to get onto w—w—w dot . gb news onto w—w—w dot. gb news news.com/cash_ onto w—w—w dot. gb news news.com/cash and sign the ootttton— news.com/cash and sign the ootttton on— news.com/cash and sign the petition on that— news.com/cash and sign the petition on that picture. we're oootng— petition on that picture. we're oootng on— petition on that picture. we're oootng on tno— petition on that picture. we're seeing on the screen now, that's aotaattw— seeing on the screen now, that's aotaattw atoat— seeing on the screen now, that's actually about 25— seeing on the screen now, that's actually about 25 minutes old. we ar— actually about 25 minutes old. we are now and— actually about 25 minutes old. we are now and i'm literally roattng— we are now and i'm literally roattng ott— we are now and i'm literally reading off the— we are now and i'm literally reading off the website, 53,500 otgnataroo— reading off the website, 53,500 signatures bring— reading off the website, 53,500 signatures bring it on. bring it on. signatures bring it on. bring it ooooo— signatures bring it on. bring it on. 53,660. it's— signatures bring it on. bring it on. 53,660. it's brilliant. all tno— on. 53,660. it's brilliant. all too ttno. — on. 53,660. it's brilliant. all the time. juliet,- on. 53,660. it's brilliant. all the time. juliet, i- on. 53,660. it's brilliant. all the time. juliet, i think you needi the time. juliet, i think you need i think you need to tip liam now. cash will do nicely, but thank you. good luck. thank you very much for bringing us your story here on gb news. we wish you success. and of course, we'll keep you updated on those figures and see how much we can get as liam says, 100,000. get you. as liam says, 100,000. and bring about the and that will bring about the possibility of a parliamentary debate. the king's first notwroot— debate. the king's first holyrood week- 5 the king's first holyrood week continues today, anoat— holyrood week continues today, anoat ot— holyrood week continues today, anoat ot nto— holyrood week continues today, ahead of his thanksgiving oorwoo— ahead of his thanksgiving oorwtoo tn— ahead of his thanksgiving service in edinburgh tomorrow. trott— service in edinburgh tomorrow. not. too— service in edinburgh tomorrow. not. the ttng— service in edinburgh tomorrow. well, the king and— service in edinburgh tomorrow. well, the king and queen- well, the king and queen unveiling a plaque this morning at the palace of holyrood house to mark the platinum jubilee , of to mark the platinum jubilee, of course, of queen elizabeth ii .

course, of queen elizabeth ii. and also celebrating the 75 years of the nhs at the royal infirmary of edinburgh. that, of course, tomorrow the official date, i think it is. yes. yes, it is . right. yeah. a garden it is. right. yeah. a garden party— it is. right. yeah. a garden party wit— it is. right. yeah. a garden party will take— . ?55. yeah. a garden party will take place . 355. yeah. a garden party will take place this attornoon — party will take place this afternoon at— party will take place this afternoon at the palace and we tatt— afternoon at the palace and we tatt to— afternoon at the palace and we can talk to gb— afternoon at the palace and we can talk to gb news royal correspondent— can talk to gb news royal correspondent cameron walker , correspondent cameron walker, wno— correspondent cameron walker, wnototno— correspondent cameron walker, wno totno ao— correspondent cameron walker, who joins us live— correspondent cameron walker, who joins us live now from tttntargn— who joins us live now from tttntargn .— who joins us live now from edinburgh . cameron gb news edinburgh. cameron gb news viewers might— edinburgh. cameron gb news viewers might have might remember us— viewers might have might remember us asking you yesterday about— remember us asking you yesterday atoat wnotnor— remember us asking you yesterday about whether you _ remember us asking you yesterday about whether you were with kilt or wttnoat— about whether you were with kilt or without kilt.— about whether you were with kilt or without kilt. oh _ about whether you were with kilt or without kilt. oh what's wnat-o— or without kilt. oh what's what's what's— or without kilt. oh what's what's what's the situ today wttn — what's what's the situ today wttn wow— what's what's the situ today with your kilt?— what's what's the situ today with your kilt? cameron right. trott— with your kilt? cameron right. not. aw— with your kilt? cameron right. well, my personal— with your kilt? cameron right. well, my personal guilt- with your kilt? cameron right. well, my personal guilt is- with your kilt? cameron right. well, my personal guilt is in london. i'm afraid i am half. i do have a stewart of appin kilt with me, but i'm fortunately i didn't think to bring it. maybe a tartan tie will come out tomorrow . you'll have to wait tomorrow. you'll have to wait and but unfortunately , no. and see. but unfortunately, no. just wearing a normal suit today . but we do have a picture of you— . but we do have a picture of won-tit— . but we do have a picture of won-tit. — . but we do have a picture of won-tit. on.- . but we do have a picture of you-kilt . oh, yes,- but we do have a picture of you kilt . o95 «59 555 you in a kilt. oh, yes, very suave. yeah,— you in a kilt. oh, yes, very suave. yeah, we- you in a kilt. oh, yes, very suave. yeah, we do.- you in a kilt. oh, yes, very suave. yeah, we do. - you in a kilt. o95 «59 53 yeah, we do. 53

you in a kilt. oh, yes, very suave. yeah, we do. very. oh yeah. was suave. yeah, we do. very. oh yeah- waotnat— suave. yeah, we do. very. oh yeah. was that taken,- yeah, we do. 55 o95 «59 95 was that taken, cameron? yeah. was that taken, cameron? tnat-o— yeah. was that taken, cameron? tnat-o toot— yeah. was that taken, cameron? that's just outside— «59 95 was that taken, cameron? that's just outside edinburgh. so that's just outside edinburgh. so tnat— that's just outside edinburgh. so that wa— that's just outside edinburgh. so that was taken— that's just outside edinburgh. so that was taken at- that's just outside edinburgh. so that was taken at a- that's just outside edinburgh. so that was taken at a family wedding. just outside edinburgh last summer. it was a place called carberry tower, which is actually fun fact. the then princess elizabeth and princess margaret used to visit regularly . it used to be a family home when they were children. now it's a hotel that does weddings. but yes , it's a it's a it was a but yes, it's a it's a it was a nice kind of link to royalty. but yes, it was a family scottish wedding. and think scottish wedding. and i think tnoro-o— scottish wedding. and i think there'slthere's_ scottish wedding. and i think there'slthere'slphoto,- there's a there's a photo, a wow— there's a there's a photo, a wow tarnoao— there's a there's a photo, a very famous-of- there's a there's a photo, a very famous of the two there's a there's a photo, a- very famous-of the two of very famous photo of the two of tnon — very famous photo of the two of tnon otawtng— very famous photo of the two of tnon otawtng on— very famous photo of the two of them playing on those steps when tnow— them playing on those steps when tnow-woangor. — them playing on those steps when they younger. obviously they were younger. so obviously won-wo— they were younger. so obviously won-woa-— they were younger. so obviously woa-woa- wow- they were younger. so obviously you've a very historic you've gone to a very historic tooatton— you've gone to a very historic tooatton to— you've gone to a very historic location to put— you've gone to a very historic location to put your tartan out no— location to put your tartan out tnto tnt— location to put your tartan out tnto tno .— location to put your tartan out into the i think— location to put your tartan out into the i think we can actually roan.— into the i think we can actually see. yeah, there— into the i think we can actually see. yeah, there we are. look, tnoro— see. yeah, there we are. look, tnoro ar— see. yeah, there we are. look, there are those— see. yeah, there we are. look, there are those steps with you tt-o— there are those steps with you to tho— there are those steps with you are. it's the same- there are those steps with you are. . 55995 are. it's the same steps. yeah. the princesses without kilts . the princesses without kilts. right. but yeah. just to remind us right. but yeah. just to remind no tnoagn. — right. but yeah. just to remind us though. tell— right. but yeah. just to remind us though. tell us— right. but yeah. just to remind us though. tell us what the tomb— us though. tell us what the tanttw or— us though. tell us what the family or the— us though. tell us what the family or the clan tartan is agatn— family or the clan tartan is agatn . — family or the clan tartan is agatn . so— family or the clan tartan is again. so mine- family or the clan tartan is again. so mine is- family or the clan tartan is again . again. so mine is stewart of appin . it comes from the west appin. it comes from the west highlands, just north of oban. but my family grew up in

glasgow, so. but it's kind of similar area, i suppose , west similar area, i suppose, west coast of scotland . yeah. i was coast of scotland. yeah. i was going— coast of scotland. yeah. i was gotng to— coast of scotland. yeah. i was gotng to saw— coast of scotland. yeah. i was gotng to saw to— coast of scotland. yeah. i was going to say, be very- 555 yeah. i was going to say, be very careful wnat— going to say, be very careful wnat won— going to say, be very careful wnat you say— going to say, be very careful what you say because you're in tttntargn.— what you say because you're in tttntargn oo— what you say because you're in edinburgh, so that— what you say because you're in edinburgh, so that could cause a few edinburgh, so that could cause a tow tooat— edinburgh, so that could cause a few local difficulties. but just to tott— few local difficulties. but just to tott ao— few local difficulties. but just to tell us what's— few local difficulties. but just to tell us what's happening now in to tell us what's happening now tn—toaotl in edinburin today, at least, it's in edinburgh today, at least, to anotnor— in edinburgh today, at least, it's another important day it's another very important day . tt— it's another very important day . tt oortatntw— it's another very important day . it certainly is. _ it's another very important day . it certainly is. it's- it's another very important day . it certainly is. it's been very busy for both the king and queen today in edinburgh. first of all, they unveiled a plaque marking the new gate that has been put on the perimeter of the palace of holyrood house by abbey yard . so it's easier for abbey yard. so it's easier for the guard , the gardeners, the guard, the gardeners, actually, to access the old ruins of holyrood abbey. it used to just be a railings. it ruins of holyrood abbey. it used to just be a railings . it was it to just be a railings. it was it was to mark the queen's platinum jubilee celebrations of the late queen's celebrating 70 years of service. it's understood that the plans for this gates were actually approved by the late queen before she passed away last september. but the king got to meet the high constables who

commissioned it. it was the money was raised by those high constables. so no taxpayers money was spent to make those gates. and i don't believe, unfortunately, the queen ever got to see those gates in person and certainly not at a formal ceremony. so perhaps slightly poignant for the king and queen this morning, the blacksmith that made the iron gates is from fife, i believe . yes. five. yes, fife, i believe. yes. five. yes, five. but then the king and queen went for a surprise visit. you were talking about the slightly earlier mark and pip, but to mark the 75th anniversary of the nhs , they visited the of the nhs, they visited the royal infirmary of edinburgh and they visited patients at the elderly. meaningful activity centre and met with staff as well. seeing them take part in activities such as bingo and dominoes . it looked like the dominoes. it looked like the patients were very star struck and very excited to see the king and very excited to see the king and queen drop in on them. a bit of surprise, really. it was all kept very secret before the king and queen were actually there.

the queen also visited the nhs . the queen also visited the nhs. lillian simpson centre for reproductive health, and it was hoped that she would actually meet new parents who have meet a few new parents who have just had their babies in the last days or days or so. last few days or days or so. i haven't seen any pictures yet of the queen meeting any new families , but if we do get them, families, but if we do get them, we'll them straight we'll bring them straight to you. again , they unveiled you. and again, they unveiled another to mark the 75th another plaque to mark the 75th anniversary of the nhs . then, of anniversary of the nhs. then, of course, tomorrow it's the big celebration of the king's coronation in scotland, a huge service of thanksgiving in saint giles cathedral , where the king giles cathedral, where the king will be presented with the honours of scotland. a slight controversy that's emerged this morning . the two co—leaders of morning. the two co—leaders of the green party here in scotland have essentially boycotted . have essentially boycotted. they've refused to attend , even they've refused to attend, even though they were invited , as has though they were invited, as has former snp leader alex salmond. all three have declined an invite to that service of thanksgiving in saint giles's cathedral tomorrow . so mr harvie

cathedral tomorrow. so mr harvie , a patrick harvie, who is one of the co—leader of the green party here in edinburgh in scotland, even he said the reason being is that it's out of the monarchy, is out of date and an undemocratic democratic institution. and he's actually expected to join one of the anti—monarchy protests in edinburgh outside holyrood is in the scottish parliament here tomorrow. instead of attending that service of thanksgiving . as that service of thanksgiving. as for the scottish tories here in edinburgh, well, a spokesperson for them, donald cameron, he was saying that the decision by those green party msps is akin to student politics. so clearly quite polarising views here in edinburgh and perhaps some people are hoping that the pipes and drums and pomp and pageantry may drown out the protest . but may drown out the protest. but we'll have to wait and see. indeed. i'm very quickly just toottng— indeed. i'm very quickly just toottng at— indeed. i'm very quickly just looking at the— indeed. i'm very quickly just looking at the skies- 55 i'm very quickly just looking at the skies behind you. tnoro-o— looking at the skies behind you. tnoro-o a— looking at the skies behind you. there's a garden— looking at the skies behind you. there's a garden party this attornoon— there's a garden party this afternoon at— there's a garden party this afternoon at holyrood there's a garden party this afternoon atlholyrood i afternoon at at holyrood with, i tntnt— afternoon at at holyrood with, i tntntltno— afternoon at at holyrood with, i thinkithe princess— afternoon at at holyrood with, i think the princess royal. so is think, the princess royal. so is the think, the princess royal. so is tno ran— think, the princess royal. so is too gotng— think, the princess royal. so is the rain going to— think, the princess royal. so is the rain going to hold off for tnon—

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it's 2:00. and welcome to the live desk here on gb news. now, let's just alert you that at any moment the prime minister is

expected to be questioned by senior mps at the powerful liaison committee in the house of commons. and we'll have that live for you as it happens . six live for you as it happens. six months, of course, after the prime minister set out those five priorities for government . five priorities for government. question therefore, on the cost of living and the state of pubuc of living and the state of public services, net zero and the ukraine war, and i think the prime minister has just now come into that committee room . we can into that committee room. we can cross to the house of commons for what you usually do for us. bernard jenkin is the chair slightly altered the order because sir bob neill has to speak in the estimates day debate, so we will take him first and he will be referring to the fact that the liaison committee itself has launched an inquiry to explore select committee scrutiny of strategic thinking across government, committee scrutiny of strategic thinking across government , with thinking across government, with which i can assure you that the civil service and ministers are already well engaged . already well engaged. >> and we look forward to that

being a positive inquiry. sir bob neill , thank you very much, sir. >> bernard prime minister , i was >> bernard prime minister, i was tempted to say i'm opening the bowling, but maybe that's not the appropriate start for today. but i wanted to refer to the inquiry that the committee has set up because we attempt, after all, to coordinate the activity of all the select committees and the of the inquiry is to the purpose of the inquiry is to look at the way government seeks to coordinate policy and decision as an action across government departments. do you recognise that there is a problem with the uk government activities being very siloed ? activities being very siloed? well i think that is historically been a concern of government . government. >> i mean i saw that as chancellor actually most probably most acutely when i was doing spending reviews where obviously departments would focus on the things that were most important to them and some of those areas that require

departments to work together to put in bids were probably less developed than you might like. actually the early years being an obvious example of that. so i mean, i certainly i can certainly see why the perception is there. and as i said, elements of that as chancellor , elements of that as chancellor, can i draw the position of the ministry of justice to your attention as an example of this, as the department whose funding is not protected in financial terms , but which is frequently terms, but which is frequently under pressure because of failures in other parts of the system. >> for example, people end up in the justice system because they've had chaotic lifestyles and families have broken up. they've been failed by social services, they've been failed at school, they've been failed by drug testing programmes. what is the means by whereby government can take into account the pressures that are placed upon that downstream department, which is the recipient of the failures elsewhere? is there a mechanism to recognise that and

to join up policy across those areas? yes >> so actually when i was chancellor we established something called the shared outcomes fund, which fund departments to do exactly this, to work together , particularly to work together, particularly where they could tackle some of the problems that that need upstream or downstream , upstream or downstream, depending on your perspective intervention as early as as one i mentioned actually the supporting families programme, what used to be called the troubled families programme is a good example of that, where work was done to evaluate the benefit of that programme on outcomes in education or the criminal justice system so that government overall could understand the value of that programme. it should just be something mhclg or deluxe something that mhclg or deluxe should be concerned with because actually all these departments were benefiting one way or another from that programme. so that's the type of thinking that i introduce as i try to introduce as chancellor. and think that chancellor. and i think that programme is a good example where there clear evidence where there was clear evidence that impact that it was having an impact beneficially criminaljustice outcomes. >> two examples. the home

>> two quick examples. the home office is recruiting 20,000 extra police officers. that's government policy . what steps government policy. what steps are being taken to properly fund the ministry of justice for the extra court time that will be taken up by hopefully those police officers capturing more offenders and potential prison time because at the moment they are not covered to pick up the costs of those extra police officers doing their job. >> so, i mean, actually, my recollection i was recollection because i was chancellor that the chancellor at the time, that the funding that was put in funding for that was put in place, was that the downstream impact 20,000 police impact of the 20,000 police officers calculated and officers were calculated and funded part of the original funded as part of the original settlement for all those departments to deliver on the 20,000 police officers commitment that i was chancellor at the time, and i distinctly remember those conversations and that modelling happening with particular focus on the downstream costs . because you're downstream costs. because you're absolutely right, we can't just focus on the cost of the police officers. obviously that has a knock elsewhere. knock on impact elsewhere. but my is that was my recollection is that was funded as part of the settlement

at the time for the 20,000 police officers uplift programme to try and join up matters, at least within the criminal justice world. >> there was something called the board the criminal justice board that was established back in it was established back in 2015. it hasn't actually met since 2021, but it still appears in existence on the government website. i've got an excellent lord chancellor. could you perhaps assist him to get that criminal justice board up and operating again? because there's a real concern of a lack of join up across this sector. so i'm very happy to make sure that the join up is happening. >> and actually for i example, on tackling illegal migration. that's something where i regularly convene different departments, particularly the home office and ministry of justice, because it requires and indeed actually luck and others because it requires a cross government coordination on to deliver on the priorities . and deliver on the priorities. and i'll happily look at making sure that we are coordinated and joined up. i'm not sure what the exact right structure is sitting here, but i very much am

sympathetic to the thrust of the question. >> just a potential cost savings if we can get it right and again, which is to the benefit of the individuals and indeed the where can the taxpayer, where we can realise those and the final point i was going to raise, sir bernard, quickly, is this bernard, very quickly, is this you've the past, you've recognised in the past, prime the importance prime minister, the importance of of english of the reputation of the english legal the united legal system for the united kingdom the world in kingdom standing in the world in october , england and wales will october, england and wales will have its first woman chief justice. will you make a point of making an early opportunity to meet with dame sue carr when she takes up her appointment? so you can learn from her firsthand and the real pressures that there are on the courts because delays of two years or so for a small business to have a money claim that can make all the difference to its survival heard in the county courts, for example, are really not acceptable or fair. would you 7 ee. agree? >> yeah. so i've actually met already with the previous lord chief justice. i think a couple of different times since i've been prime minister and i'm fully expect that i will

continue those meetings and engagement the lord, engagement with the new lord, chief and are chief justice and we are focussed very hard on reducing the backlog . obviously the court backlog. obviously more funding has gone into it as the committee will be aware, but also we've removed the limit on sitting days and the crown court , we've continued to use the i believe, 16 nightingale nightingale courtrooms and actually we raised the statutory retirement age for judicial office holders, all of which are initiatives that help expand judicial capacity to help us get through the backlog. but it remains a commitment and a focus of ours. but i look forward to discussing that with the new lord chief justice in due course. thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. bob. now moving to the all important moving on to the all important subject the russian subject of the russian aggression in ukraine and other associated security issues with alicia kearns, chair of the foreign affairs committee. alicia kearns, chair of the forlthankfairs committee. alicia kearns, chair of the forlthank you, committee. alicia kearns, chair of the forlthank you, chairiittee. alicia kearns, chair of the forlthank you, chair .ttee. alicia kearns, chair of the forlthank you, chair. prime >> thank you, chair. prime minister, fear that we are on minister, i fear that we are on the of the gaza crisis of the cusp of the gaza crisis of 2223. yesterday we took up presidency of the un security council. how do you hope that over this month we will use that

to shed a light on what is taking place, but also what outcomes will be achieved during our presidency? >> you referring >> so what were you referring specifically to ? specifically to? >> so the gaza crisis, so essentially israel—palestine, but also as president of the un security council over the next month, what have you tasked foreign office civil servants to achieve? >> i think there's >> well, i think there's a couple of different things . couple of different things. obviously, with regard to the current situation in israel and around, of course, we support israel's right to self—defence and have condemned the recent terrorist attacks . we would say terrorist attacks. we would say that the protection of civilians must be prioritised in any military operation and would urge the idf to demonstrate restraint in its operation and for all parties to avoid further escalation in both the west bank and gaza. both now and in in the days ahead . and also call on days ahead. and also call on israel to adhere to principles of necessity and proportionality when defending their legitimate security interest . that's there security interest. that's there more broadly with regard to the

un security council and our actions there, i would imagine that we will continue to focus on highlighting what's happening in ukraine, russia's illegal invasion. i think one thing that we have helped, i think, play a leading role in is ensuring broad support at the un, condemn russian action. over 140 different countries have signed the resolutions that we have helped to support in the un and that will continue, i would imagine, to be a focus is in the coming weeks and months. and i think recent events in russia highlight from others the illegality of russia's invasion and i think hopefully other countries are recognising that and will continue to use the un as a platform to highlight that. >> so just before we move on to ukraine, in your discussions with how clear were with netanyahu, how clear were we that we should not see an expansion of illegal settlements? we see settlements? and will we see israel brought forward israel palestine brought forward specifically by british specifically by the british government next government then over the next month or settlements are month or so, settlements are illegal under international law ? >> and 7-

>> and we 7 >> and we said that ? >> and we said that they 7 >> and we said that they present an obstacle to peace and threaten the physical viability of state solution . we've of a two state solution. we've consistently engaged with israel and obviously i met president netanyahu a little while ago and we've repeatedly made clear to israel that we oppose any settlement expansion. and we've asked the israeli government to halt and reverse its policy . halt and reverse its policy. >> and moving then to ukraine. there are reports that ahead of the vilnius summit, i guess, a coalition of the willing will bnng coalition of the willing will bring forward some sort of security support package , a security support package, a security support package, a security agreement for ukraine. can you set out for me what your vision would for be such a security agreement for ukraine? >> well, not not wanting to pre—empt conversations that pre—empt the conversations that obviously in private. obviously happening in private. what i have said is that i think it would be beneficial for ukraine and for the conflict for there to be a multilateral declaration of support for ukraine into the long into the long term. and there are various different shapes and forms that

can take those conversations are happening . the purpose of that happening. the purpose of that declaration , assuming it can be declaration, assuming it can be something that gathers broad support, is to demonstrate that support, is to demonstrate that support for ukraine will be in place for the long term. i think that will send a strong signal to putin that his efforts are in vain and ultimately he should recognise that we, the coalition of the willing , who are of the willing, who are defending principles of territorial integrity and the un charter, are not going to go away and will continue to give ukraine the support it needs in the means to defend itself against current and future aggression. those aggression. so those conversations ongoing . conversations are are ongoing. >> and what's your level of confidence that vilnius, we will see a path to nato membership for ukraine set out and agreed again those those conversations are ongoing, as you all know , are ongoing, as you all know, nato is a consensus organisation and so we're having those conversations with our partners. >> what's very clear i've said previously in the past that ukraine's rightful place is in

nato, but the alliance works by consensus , so we will have to consensus, so we will have to work together with our allies. but there are things that we are already doing that will help ukraine on that journey, notably the increasing the interoperability of capabilities, the training of ukrainian troops to nato standards and the provision of nato standard equipment. all of all our examples of that type of support that will help ukraine not just now , but on that longer not just now, but on that longer term journey as well. >> thank you. moving us to the balkans, there has been an international failure of deterrence when it comes to the western balkans. i think that's best exemplified by the eu and us response in recent punishments of kosovo in the face of serb antagonism and .uk secessionist rhetoric bosnia secessionist rhetoric in bosnia and herzegovina , even prime and herzegovina, even as prime minister will you now commit that we will rejoin you? for which add both turkey which i'd add that both turkey and members of. and and chile and members of. and will also consider lobbying will you also consider lobbying for expansion of mandate for an expansion of k4's mandate in kosovo? so that they deal in kosovo? so that they can deal with illegal arms being with the illegal arms being

brought from serbia into brought across from serbia into kosovo and are arming kosovo and which are arming illegal all belgrade funded and armed militias in kosovo ? armed militias in kosovo? >> well, the first thing to say is we in the government fully support bosnia and herzegovina's territorial integrity and sovereignty and will continue to take measures against those who threaten that we're particularly concerned. i'm particularly concerned. i'm particularly concerned about the situation in the north of kosovo, which you'll be familiar with , and you'll be familiar with, and very much condemned the unprovoked attacks by protesters on kfor personnel . the foreign on kfor personnel. the foreign secretary has already told the prime minister of kosovo and serbia that that leaders in belgrade and pristina do have a responsibility to reduce tension and prevent further violence . and prevent further violence. our view is we must find a way back to the eu facilitated dialogue with regard to you for we do see eufor as eufor , as we do see eufor as eufor, as vital for peace and security in bosnia and herzegovina and our non—participation in it doesn't reflect the importance of the operation to the peace and

stability of the region. and we're going to continue to explore opportunities to widen cooperation with the mission . cooperation with the mission. >> thank you. i would urge the government to look very close to that. and then very finally, very briefly, just back very briefly, just take it back to israel—palestine, yes or no answer. you put answer. okay would you now put in place special envoy for the middle peace process to middle east peace process to make we adequate make sure we have the adequate attention what's going on there? >> i think, look, it's something that know my fcdo are talking that i know my fcdo are talking to honourable about and to the honourable lady about and happy continue talking with to the honourable lady about and hap about.ontinue talking with to the honourable lady about and hap about. we nue talking with to the honourable lady about and hap about. we continue �*ig with to the honourable lady about and hap about. we continue to with to the honourable lady about and hap about. we continue to sayi her about. we continue to say that's something would be that's something that would be open a that we think open to at a time that we think it will be beneficial to the peace so not that peace process. so it's not that we're it in principle, we're against it in principle, it's just figuring out when it can take as a but can take that as a yes, but subject to announcement, hopefully. >> very much. thank >> thank you very much. thank you, chair. >> minister, not using >> prime minister, i'm not using my in this session for the my time in this session for the benefit of others, to benefit of others, but to supplementaries. very briefly, we're russian we're confronting russian aggression in ukraine very vociferously and very clearly how confident are you that the international community is not appeasing proxy russian aggression in the balkans ?

aggression in the balkans? >> i don't believe i don't believe that we are. and as you've heard from my answers to the to olesya, we're continuing to take quite a robust stance against proxies, not just in that region , but previously in that region, but previously in in africa as well, with wagner, because, you know, where we see threats to territorial integrity and sovereignty , we i think it's and sovereignty, we i think it's important that we do our best to stand up for them. and that's what we're doing. and the war in ukraine will last as long as the friends of democracy around the world allow it to last . world allow it to last. >> the more support we can give, the quicker it will end successfully for the ukrainians . are we doing enough? and what more could we be doing ? more could we be doing? >> well, we've i think , as >> well, we've i think, as everybody knows, provided 2.3 or are providing £2.3 billion in military support for ukraine this year, matching what we've given last year, which i believe puts us second only to the americans . americans. >> but i think it's as well as

just the quantum of support. it's a type of support where we have been consistently out in front in the type of capability that we are providing to the ukrainians and training them on that. you saw that with main battle tanks, which i was the first leader to announce. we would provide and actually provide. and then most recently with storm shadow, long—range weapons, which are having a beneficial impact on the current on the current state of the conflict . and we will continue conflict. and we will continue to do that and look for opportunities to provide ukrainians with the support they need. ukrainians with the support they need . the priorities remains as need. the priorities remains as it always has been. heavy armour , artillery, long—range weapons and training, most recently combat air, where we will play our part as part of an international coalition to provide combat capabilities , provide combat capabilities, particularly training of pilots . and we're starting that this summer , in fact, which is summer, in fact, which is something that i know the ukrainians have warmly welcomed . and we continue to talk to

other countries about about increasing their support for ukraine, both in quantum and in capability. and i think that is important at this stage because the priority is to ensure that the priority is to ensure that the counteroffensive can be as successful as we would all like it to be. >> thank you, prime minister greg clark on the science and technology. and i thank you, sir, and good afternoon, prime minister. >> prime minister, a few days ago you told london tech week that the possibilities of ai are extraordinary . what do you see extraordinary. what do you see as the biggest positive impact of artificial intelligence ? of artificial intelligence? >> ace well, i think just in the last few weeks in the news reporting, you know, you've seen some of the promise of ai paralysed people being able to walk . the kind of cracking of walk. the kind of cracking of the structure of almost every known protein and, you know, starting to be able to model reactions in nuclear fusion. so it just gives you a sense of the variety that is there . and also variety that is there. and also when you combine that with the computational power of quantum,

i think you can really start to imagine a future in which even incurable diseases like cancer and dementia new ways to grow and dementia or new ways to grow crops all might be possible for me. kind of put it in a me. i'd kind of put it in a couple of different categories, i think straightforwardly, on the economy side. interesting report from pwc recently that estimated that a 10% gdp benefit over the coming decade and you're starting to see that out in the way that companies are using ai and indeed leading companies like palantir are opening their european ai hq here and the quality of our research, etcetera. so that's on the economic side. and i've spoken in the past about al holding out the promise of being a general purpose technology and the economic research is very clear that that leads to a kind of j—curve effect and productivity that we are on the cusp of hopefully realising and then in public services, i'd say health and education are the two areas where i'm excited, particularly in health care. i think reasonably people are reasonably familiar with the

opportunity to speed up diagnosis of a range of different conditions , but also different conditions, but also improve the productivity and accuracy of, for example, people looking for skin cancers is interesting . dumb ai technology interesting. dumb ai technology thatis interesting. dumb ai technology that is being deployed or robotic surgery . and then in robotic surgery. and then in education, the opportunity to reduce workload for teachers , reduce workload for teachers, whether it's lesson planning or marking , but whether it's lesson planning or marking, but then also whether it's lesson planning or marking , but then also provide marking, but then also provide personalised tuition for children . the khan academy is children. the khan academy is starting to roll out an ai chatbot, which has, i think, enormous potential because we know that that more personalised approach to learning has huge benefits for children, particularly disadvantaged children , and tutoring in the children, and tutoring in the physical sense is hard to scale. but the technology allows us to provide that . and i think that provide that. and i think that would be transformational. absolutely >> so lots of upsides in that speech to london tech week, you said that we must do i safely. so what do you see as the biggest danger of ai? >> so i would categorise the

risks into a few different buckets. i think first is the socioeconomic risk from the large scale societal shifts that the technology will bring. >> and that's often what technology does. that doesn't mean you should stand in the way of it, but it just needs to make sure that we're cognisant of it and provide people with the skills to flourish in skills they need to flourish in a world that being changed by a world that is being changed by technology. i think the second is risk of misuse, and that is the risk of misuse, and that is the risk of misuse, and that is it's open source is whether it's open source models or otherwise. you know , models or otherwise. you know, the they can be the ability that they can be used tools generate used as tools to generate misinformation or identify and exploit cyber vulnerabilities or create harmful content or deepfakes or child sexual abuse, that's the kind of second category. i think the third category. i think the third category would be tool use , category would be tool use, whereby foundation models can be used to activate capabilities in the real world. and then the last category is what people would describe as capability overhangs. kind of overhangs. and that kind of trends into the area of more existential risk because there's just a, you know, a lack of

understanding at this point about what the potential of these models might be. now, obviously, separate to all of that , there are national that, there are national security which sure security risks, which i'm sure the gentleman will the honourable gentleman will acknowledge. appreciate acknowledge. i appreciate limited i can say, but limited in what i can say, but i think thinking it in those think thinking about it in those four is probably the four categories is probably the right about it. right way to go about it. >> and you've >> thank you. and you've convened an international safety summit for the autumn . are you summit for the autumn. are you intending that to be a summit of like minded countries like the us and japan? perhaps or is it for all countries a bit like the international atomic energy authority that includes countries like china and russia, which what do you have in mind? i think look, i think in the first instance, mainly what we're trying to do is acknowledge that there is a global dimension to this challenge. >> and i doesn't respect national borders or countries are at varying stages of their thinking about how we can put guardrails in place to make sure that we can realise the benefits of ai in a way that is safe and

secure. and it seems a sensible and reasonable step to just try and reasonable step to just try and bring some of those countries together to talk about these problems in a collective forum, because ultimately they will need to be some coordination. so i it's coordination. so i think it's quite early thinking . as said, quite early thinking. as i said, it's more about bringing it's more just about bringing people are people together who are countries together . countries together. >> it's just bringing people together about together who are thinking about these a similar way. >> and just to exchange ideas and share information as i said, because ai doesn't respect national borders. and i think we will all benefit from hearing and talking to each other in a conversation with the businesses themselves. i think that themselves. and i think that thatis themselves. and i think that that is really what this is about. i we're we're about. i think we're we're a long from anyone long way from anyone establishing an air inaya equivalent for al . those things equivalent for al. those things are long into the distance . but are long into the distance. but in the first instance, just talking through this with like minded countries seems a sensible finally, prime minister, you've got this summit , you've published a white paper in march, the, the, the, the last session of this parliament

begins in november. >> will there be do you expect there to be an ai bill in the king's speech ? king's speech? >> know i'm not going to comment now on fourth session legislation. >> all those conversations are are happening and no final decisions are being made . i decisions are being made. i think actually what we need to do and i think probably we can do and i think probably we can do lots of this without legislation , is sitting down and legislation, is sitting down and figuring out what are the safety features and guardrails that we'd like to put in place and i think we have a sense of what some of those might be, whether it's watermarking , whether it's it's watermarking, whether it's pre—release information sharing, whether it's reporting a licencing of large trading runs , whether it's pre—training or pre—deployment disclosure, transparency on the datasets that are used. i think that's the kind of category of things that we need to do spend time on, which is why the foundation model task force has been set up and funded specifically in its early phase is to focus on

safety research . i think it's an safety research. i think it's an area where the uk can lead because we already have good capability in it. so if we can develop that capability further because it's a growing field, it will it will mean that we will know what to do and it may well be. and actually so far, the conversations with the three leading foundation model companies have been incredibly cooperative, but they're calling for . for legislation actually. >> well, i think what they want are for governments to put in place the guardrails. >> and they're very open about that. and they're very i say thus far they have been incredibly constructive and open and transparent with government and transparent with government and want to try and find a solution together, which i said it's too early to pre—empt what all that might look like. but you can imagine a world where at least the initial stages that don't require legislation necessarily, actually just necessarily, but actually just require in and require us to get in there and do safe evaluation on the models and have access to them. and i said, we've had announcements already from of those already from some of those foundation companies that foundation model companies that they provide that access to

they will provide that access to they will provide that access to the government to be able to do that on a on a priority basis, which i'm grateful for and i think will help us get this right. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i'm sorry we're dragging behind. people are going to have to be quicker and i'll have to be stricter. dame diana johnson, home affairs, thank you and good afternoon, prime minister. >> you're appealing >> i know you're appealing the court on the court of appeals ruling on the rwanda scheme. you've said this policy is an important part of your plan to tackle illegal migration and stop small boats . migration and stop small boats. so do you have a plan for what you'll do if the appeal fails? >> as i said , our belief remains >> as i said, our belief remains that the plan that we have is legal . it's compliant with all legal. it's compliant with all our obligations , and we'll be our obligations, and we'll be appealing it vigorously . and you appealing it vigorously. and you know what? if you look at the ruling, what you'll see is the lord chief justice, in his opinion , agreed with the high opinion, agreed with the high court and with the government that the safeguards that and reassurances that we have received from rwanda are

sufficient . there's a very sufficient. there's a very specific point of contention about the onward relocation potentially of people who we send to rwanda. i said we believe that the safeguards we have are sufficient, so we'll continue to confidently and vigorously pursue our case. >> so you're betting everything on being on the rwanda policy being upheld in the in the supreme court ? well, no, that's not court? well, no, that's not that's not a fair characterisation of what we're doing. well, it's a gamble , doing. well, it's a gamble, isn't it? you're not sure? >> and indeed this >> last year and indeed this yean >> last year and indeed this year, out a range of year, i set out a range of things that we're doing to tackle this problem. yes >> example, can i come >> so, for example, can i come on that? i've got on to that? because i've got some specific of what some specific questions of what you're say. you're going to say. >> well, just ask because you asked question. could be asked the question. it could be asked the question. it could be a substantive additional a very substantive additional piece. the new that we piece. is the new deal that we have with albania in albania. >> greatest respect, >> with the greatest respect, prime minister, i've got very little and do want to get little time and i do want to get through some important issues with you. so if i could just leave that. i've got your, your you made statement that we're you made a statement that we're betting house thing. betting the house on one thing. >> think reasonable for betting the house on one thing. >> to link reasonable for betting the house on one thing. >> to say, reasonable for betting the house on one thing. >> to say, well, asonable for betting the house on one thing. >> to say, well, letnable for betting the house on one thing. >> to say, well, let me.e for betting the house on one thing. >> to say, well, let me give you me to say, well, let me give you an example of something else that significant is

that is significant that is making with the making a difference with the greatest respect. >> with the >> dame dame diana with the greatest promise i've greatest respect promise i've got quite a few questions i want to so you're that you >> so you're clear that you think rwanda is going to succeed in the supreme on the in the supreme court just on the small issue, i think small boats issue, i think it's six months since you made six months today since you made your promises to the your five promises to the british including british people, including stopping now, stopping the small boats. now, win the court of win or lose, in the court of appeal the supreme court appeal in the supreme court right now, your plans around rwanda does that rwanda are on hold. so does that mean attempt to stop the mean your attempt to stop the small boats, that's on hold at the moment , small boats, that's on hold at the moment, no. >> and a good example of why it's not on hold is our deal with albania. albania accounted for a third of the illegal migrants that cross last year. we looked at, and that is surprising given that albania is clearly a safe country and it's an ally. the european nation and it's a signatory to many of the same treaties that we are on these issues, which is why our new deal with albania and a revision in in how we treat illegal migrants from albania means i know you're very keen to talk about albania, but i'm very

keen to actually address the fact that in june you asked for an example of being committed to continuing to stop the boats outside of the rwanda policy. this is a very good example of something that, as i said, we've returned almost 2000 illegal migrants who came across last yeah >> none of the returns actually relate to people who travelled in small boats last year, do they? >> because we work through the backlog of people, we've got. but because of the new deal, we are to return people to are now able to return people to albania and you can start to see the benefit that the early benefit of that deterrence because most deterrence because in the most recent data that we had, the number of illegal migrants from albania had reduced considerably since we put that new deal in place. okay let's move on from shows that you can make a difference on the number of people who crossed the channel in small boats last year , the in small boats last year, the largest number in any of the records that have been kept over the last five years, 3824. >> the majority come or a large chunk come from afghanistan ,

chunk come from afghanistan, iran. so what i'm just trying to get to is with the rate of progress that you're making at the moment, when do you think you'll be able to fulfil your pledge to stop the small boats ? pledge to stop the small boats? >> i obviously the court will have to determine its own ruling and that is outside of the government's hands. it's the court that determines the timing of its but in the of its rulings. but in the meantime we can get on with a range of other things i said. range of other things as i said. okay you talk about the deal in albania. >> the other thing, one of the other things we're doing in albania quite a lot. >> well, actually, i will move on to one of the other things we did, the tackling illegal did, one of the tackling illegal illegal working to people illegal working to show people that do come here that if they do come here illegally, they be to illegally, they won't be able to disappear black disappear into the black economy. of the things economy. so one of the things we've done increase the we've done is increase the number illegal working number of illegal working raids by cani number of illegal working raids by can i ask you some >> can i just ask you some questions that relate? >> and again, all of that will contribute. i believe, to a deterrent with deterrent effect with the greatest respect. >> i want to ask >> prime minister, i want to ask you the illegal migration you this. the illegal migration bill, introduced bill, which was introduced earlier since the earlier this year, since the bill introduced, 8128 people bill was introduced, 8128 people have crossed the channel in

small boats. so if we assume your rwanda policy is upheld in the in the supreme court , rwanda the in the supreme court, rwanda has said they can take a capacity of 500 people. so that leaves 7628 who've come across since the bill was introduced. what do you intend will happen to those people as i said, i'm not going to talk about a private commercial contract that we have, but our rwanda scheme , we have, but our rwanda scheme, as we have said multiple times , as we have said multiple times, is uncapped. >> okay. so that's not what the rwandans say, is it? >> okay. so that's not what the rwandans say, is it ? well, the rwandans say, is it? well, the rwandans say, is it? well, the rwanda scheme is uncapped and which is why i believe it can act as a very helpful deterrent when the scheme is up and running. >> can i move on to your other promise, which is around dealing with the backlog? and when you came said you were came last time you said you were going the workforce, going to double the workforce, triple and triple productivity and reengineer the system to deal with backlog, legacy with the backlog, the legacy backlog national audit backlog, yet the national audit office found the home office office has found the home office is making enough is not yet making enough decisions actually achieve decisions to actually achieve your target of clearing that

part of the backlog by december 23rd. so i just wondered what's what's going wrong? because you were very chipper last time about how you were going to deliver this. yes >> so i think when i made the announcement, the legacy initial asylum backlog was around . asylum backlog was around. 92,000 when i gave the update earlier this year, that had reduced by almost a fifth by about 17,000 down to around 74,000. so that is the progress that has already been made in reducing the legacy initial asylum backlog . and i said those asylum backlog. and i said those numbers were when i last gave the update, but they were down by fifth. by around a fifth. >> so you'll deliver by december. >> what time's up? sorry. moving on to the cost of living crisis , harriet baldwin for the treasury committee. >> thank you very much, sir. bernard now, prime minister , bernard now, prime minister, we're halfway through the year and you want to halve inflation this year and how is that going? >> what? probably motty would you assign to achieving that by the end of the year? well i'll

leave that to the forecasters, but we remain committed to bringing inflation down and halfway is a step on it. >> going back down to the inflation target , which is inflation target, which is obviously even lower than that . obviously even lower than that. and now it's clearly inflation is proving more persistent than people anticipated . but that people anticipated. but that does what's happening. so the prime minister continuing to answer these questions in this liaison committee. >> but i'm being pressed quite hard on the issue of the rwanda policy and the small boats now being questioned on the cost of living. but clearly be uncomfortable, perhaps with being closely questioned on this particular issue. and catherine is with us in the studio . it's is with us in the studio. it's interesting that we're learning he's not going to be at prime minister's questions tomorrow to be pressed on these various issues, nor, it seems, may be 1 or 2 other pmqs. so this underlines the importance of these mps being able or at least these mps being able or at least the chairs of these committees,

being able to ask him these questions. >> mean, this is a big >> yes, i mean, this is a big moment for rishi sunak. there's 2 or 3 of these every year the prime is questioned prime minister is questioned intensively about 90 intensively for about 90 minutes. so there's no sort of ducking away from the questions. i thought it was interesting with diana johnson then on the small boats , rishi sunak was small boats, rishi sunak was clearly desperate to talk about albania as a success story. she you know, he didn't like the repeated diana johnson with the greatest respect , because the greatest respect, because the record is not good, is it? but in terms of prime ministers questions, he won't be there tomorrow . we know that it will tomorrow. we know that it will be angela rayner and deputy prime minister oliver dowden and he will then have missed for now as a percentage that puts him at the bottom of all prime ministers since margaret thatcher. he will basically have only been to 83% of them. he's going to be at the nato summit next week as well in lithuania.

so he's going to miss that one tomorrow because of the nhs 75th anniversary that occasion just well, literally around the corner from the house of commons chamber, we presume we don't have the timings of that ceremony, but we're presuming that that's why he won't be there he won't there next there and he won't be there next week either . so there and he won't be there next week either. so only to have made sort of four out of five of them on average is not ideal. i mean, clearly he's very comfortable on the world stage. perhaps a little bit less comfortable under the sort of scrutiny that he's going. >> it's interesting, just just to look at the figures john major made 88% of pmqs margaret thatcher, 92. tony blair 95, although, of course, blair made it a once a week occasion because it previously it had been twice a week. >> yes. and boris johnson made 94% of his i mean, the only person that's got 100% hit rate is, of course , is liz truss. but is, of course, is liz truss. but i mean, she can't really she can't really take it as a badge of glory because there were only

three. >> but i mean, borisjohnson >> but i mean, boris johnson sort of thrived in in that with that sort of style of questioning, didn't he? whereas i'm sunak is as i'm not sure rishi sunak is as comfortable and neither comfortable with it. and neither is he as comfortable sitting here being probed forensically like he was by dame diana johnson. and it's quite difficult, isn't it, for these mps as well, because they've only specific amount of only got a specific amount of time ask questions that time to ask the questions that they want to ask and rishi sunak can waffle a bit and you can just waffle a bit and you know , dame diana johnson really know, dame diana johnson really having to really press to get him to answer yes. numerous questions. >> and she was cut off in the end, wasn't she, because she was then told, sorry, you're out of time. and it was quite an important quite an important question that about the legacy backlog. >> woody, meet his by >> and woody, meet his target by the year wasn't it. exactly. >> and she was she was also saying that rwanda that they said only take 500 said they could only take 500 people in total. the prime minister was saying, no, no, that's not right. >> he's saying rwanda is uncapped, uncapped. >> don't we, that >> but we know, don't we, that the have already the government have already spent pounds

spent tens of millions of pounds on this project. not a single person has gone to rwanda. we don't honestly know if anybody ever will. >> so a lot of money we got an answer to the question, what is your plan b? effectively, if this appeal fails in the supreme court , what happens next? we court, what happens next? we didn't really get an answer on that. >> no, we didn't at all. and of course, rishi sunak was clinging to the fact that the judgement last it was split last week it was a split judgement . last week it was a split judgement. the most senior judge judgement. the most seniorjudge found of the found in favour of the government. it's now going government. okay. it's now going to supreme court. government. okay. it's now going to supreme court . they to the supreme court. they feel it go their way, but it it will go their way, but it might not. and the whole point of rwanda was it was to be a disincentive. so people would think, all right, well i'm in france if i go to the uk, i'm going to get sent to rwanda. i'd ratherjust going to get sent to rwanda. i'd rather just stick going to get sent to rwanda. i'd ratherjust stick in france or rather just stick in france or go somewhere else. if you can't get that off the ground and at least send some people , well, least send some people, well, it's very difficult. i mean, we've got 500 million that we're spending with the french over

the next three years. they're intercepting a lot of crossings, but there's still tonnes of people coming across. aren't there? and the weather has changed. >> i mean, dame diana johnson said to him, it's a gamble for you. you know, you're you're putting everything on your pledge to help me out, catherine, to meet this migration target . yeah. and it's migration target. yeah. and it's all on rwanda and it might not happen. it might not happen before the next election that we get a decision from the supreme court. >> it might not. i mean, worth saying that other european countries are starting to look at similar possibly cities as well. the world bank, well. and the world bank, i think, have estimated that by 2050 there'll be something like 260 million people on the move , 260 million people on the move, largely because of climate change, trying to get to europe, nonh change, trying to get to europe, north america , wherever millions north america, wherever millions and millions of people going forward , how are we going to forward, how are we going to deal with this? >> okay, we've got an hour and a half of this, 90 minutes. we won't stay with it for all that

time because it is a little bit dry. but just very quickly, what do you think the backbenchers, the tory backbenchers will be making just what he's making this not just what he's saying, he's saying how saying, how he's saying it, how does if he appears a does he appear if he appears a little bit flat? does he appear if he appears a littihetit flat? does he appear if he appears a littihe does,? does he appear if he appears a littihe does, doesn't he? and >> he does, doesn't he? and a bit tired. i mean, it's understandable . he's had rough understandable. he's had a rough ride, course he needs to ride, but of course he needs to try to still project confidence, a positive vision . and i've got a positive vision. and i've got this a bit phrase he seems. >> yeah , it doesn't it doesn't >> yeah, it doesn't it doesn't really feel like that today. >> catherine , thanks for the >> catherine, thanks for the moment. and of course we'll continue to monitor what's being said by the prime minister at that committee plenty that liaison committee plenty more coming up. stay with us here news and the live here on gb news and the live desk

patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . gb news radio. >> welcome back to the live desk on gb news a high court challenge led by five conservative councillor goes against plans to extend the

caphaps against plans to extend the capital's ultra low emission zone. is currently underway. >> well, those councils include bexley, bromley, hillingdon and harrow, surrey to are challenging the expansion amid concerns that the scheme could harm, they say , local harm, they say, local businesses. joining us now is leader of bexley council, teresa o'neill . o'neill. >> good to have you on the live desk. thanks for to talking us. how confident are you that this court case will be successful? well . so you never like to take well. so you never like to take these things for granted . these things for granted. >> and obviously we've put forward a good case. we've got phenomenal backing from our residents and we hope that obviously the judge will come out with the right decision . out with the right decision. >> theresa, what is the just tell us very, very simply, just just tell us very concisely . just tell us very concisely. what is the nub of your case? >> well , the reality is we're >> well, the reality is we're all in favour of better air

quality, but we do not believe this is the right way of achieving it, this is the right way of achieving it , especially this is the right way of achieving it, especially in outer london. so a place like bexley really poor transport infrastructure . so we're quite infrastructure. so we're quite dependent on the car. you know, we've we've got no tube networks in bexley. you won't find a tube station. so people are very reliant. this has been brought forward very quickly . the forward very quickly. the evidence isn't there to show it's going to make a dramatic difference and therefore, we think it's the wrong thing to do i >> -- >> is it political in that all the local authorities taking this challenge are tory. and of course, we have a london mayor who is labour. >> no, it's political in the fact that actually the mayor is taking action against those that can least afford it. so i mean, the stories that, you know , i've the stories that, you know, i've had and the people that have come on to me now, these are the probably the poorest people in our borough that really can't afford to be going out there and

changing their car. it's also a pretty poor message to say , hey, pretty poor message to say, hey, you can pollute the air if you believe that's the case. if you can afford it. and also , you can afford it. and also, you know, getting rid of all these cars is, you know, how is that fitting with an environmentally friendly strategy? this is this is the scrappage scheme, which is the scrappage scheme, which is part of the legal action as well . that's is part of the legal action as well. that's right. is part of the legal action as well . that's right. yes. and we well. that's right. yes. and we believe that's not been thought through correctly . if people are through correctly. if people are successful in applying for it from a car's point of view, you get something like £2,000. well frankly, that won't be pay for a compliant car , will it? you compliant car, will it? you know, and also so there is quite a lengthy lead into buying cars as well. so that doesn't help either as far as fans are concerned. you know, lots of people's jobs potentially at risk because there is a little bit more, but still isn't

sufficient to replace a van and i know a labour mp suggested you could take your tools on the tube well, number one, you'd have to find a tube in bexley and number two actually, how does that work for a number of small, small van you say? >> theresa though to families in your area to that are living near these busy roads that might have various health conditions, including asthma, etcetera, and actually, they will really benefit from this ulez scheme being expanded . the health will being expanded. the health will benefit . oh, i think we might benefit. oh, i think we might have lost theresa, which is a great shame. i don't know whether she's going to unfreeze any second. no, i think we've lost the link to her. >> but just to update, of course, the fact that they are challenging both the move on the scrappage scheme and indeed expanding it to just update you.

sadiq khan's legal team rejecting the challenge, saying that the move was entirely lawful and that ample information had been provided to all the councils for a fair consultation. so the hearing underway will update, of course, as we get more from that. the high court. let's talk, though, king charles and his first holyrood week , which is holyrood week, which is continuing ahead of his thanksgiving service in edinburgh, which is taking place tomorrow . well, the king and tomorrow. well, the king and queen unveiling a plaque this morning at the palace of holyrood house to mark the platinum jubilee of queen elizabeth ii. and of course, that previous occasion, but also celebrating the nhs celebrating 75 years of the nhs at the royal infirmary of edinburgh , a garden party is edinburgh, a garden party is taking place this afternoon at the palace and gb news royal correspondent cameron walker can join us live from edinburgh . join us live from edinburgh. >> we were saying earlier , >> we were saying earlier, cameron, i think you've answered my question. it was looking like that garden party was going to be full of soggy sandwiches .

be full of soggy sandwiches. >> yes , i think it's fair to say >> yes, i think it's fair to say thatis >> yes, i think it's fair to say that is incredibly likely at this point . it keeps coming and this point. it keeps coming and going. it gets heavier than this. it has been heavier than this. it has been heavier than this. but nonetheless , i think this. but nonetheless, i think it's pretty obvious that it's not going to be very, very sunny for this garden party celebrating the king's coronation. we had two garden parties at buckingham palace earlier in the year. i think they were in may. and this one is at the palace of holyrood house, the king and the queen and the princess royal will be hosting it with lots of invited guests. so let's hope they've got their umbrellas and their marquees at the ready. but of course, this is holyrood week. there are a number of different engagements going on today. there are a number of different engagements going on today . may engagements going on today. may the and queen unveiled the king and queen unveiled a plaque commemorating the new platinum jubilee gates that has been installed on the perimeter of the palace of holyrood house. it's going to make it easier for the gardeners, i'm told, to access the ruins of holyrood abbey. there it used to just be a railing and they had to go the long way around, so good for

them. whole point, of them. but the whole point, of course, to commemorate the course, is to commemorate the late queen's platinum jubilee. 70 it's 70 years of service. it's understood that actually understood that she actually approves for this gate approves the plans for this gate before she passed away in september . before she passed away in september. but before she passed away in september . but there was never september. but there was never any official or formal presentation of the gates to her majesty . so perhaps quite, quite majesty. so perhaps quite, quite poignant for the king and queen here in edinburgh this morning. they then made a surprise visit. their majesties , to the royal their majesties, to the royal infirmary of edinburgh , and they infirmary of edinburgh, and they spent some time with some elderly patients there at the meaningful activity centre, seeing them take part in dominoes and bingo as well . and dominoes and bingo as well. and the queen also visited a unit of the queen also visited a unit of the hospital for new families, new mothers and their postnatal units as well. we don't have any pictures as of yet of the queen visiting that unit, but as you can see on your screens, for those of you watching on television, there was lots of very surprised patients when the king and queen rocks up there. and then, course , as we've and then, of course, as we've

just they've just discussed, they've got a very wet garden party going on later this afternoon. but later on this afternoon. but tomorrow the official tomorrow is the official celebration of the king's coronation in scotland with a service of thanks giving at saint giles cathedral where he will be presented with the honours of scotland, the oldest set of crown jewels in the british isles. slight controversy this morning. there's a few anti—monarchy list politicians here in scotland who have effectively boycotted the service of thanksgiving despite having invites for the two co—leaders of the green party here in scotland. patrick harvie and lorna slater. mr harvie is actually going to be joining one of the republican protests outside holyrood. that's the parliament here in scotland tomorrow. also though, the former leader of the snp , alex former leader of the snp, alex salmond. he's also not going to be attending the service of thanksgiving . there's a republic thanksgiving. there's a republic protest. the people with the big yellow signs, which you may have seen over the last couple of months. to be months. they are going to be protesting royal mile protesting on the royal mile as the procession is taking place

of scotland from of the honours of scotland from edinburgh castle, which is behind saint giles behind me down to saint giles cathedral and of course, the procession of members of the royal family, including the king, the queen and the prince and princess of wales, known as the duke and duchess of rothesay in scotland from the palace of holyrood house all the way up to saint giles cathedral. so perhaps the pomp and pageantry will the protesters, will drown out the protesters, but , i think they but nonetheless, i think they are have a pretty hefty are going to have a pretty hefty presence edinburgh tomorrow. >> yeah, and i think in terms of talking of the royal team, i think the princess royal was due to attend garden party this to attend the garden party this afternoon of course, think afternoon. of course, i think i'm in saying still patron afternoon. of course, i think i'nthe in saying still patron afternoon. of course, i think i'nthe scottish iing still patron afternoon. of course, i think i'nthe scottish rugbyll patron afternoon. of course, i think i'nthe scottish rugby union)n afternoon. of course, i think i'nthe scottish rugby union .i of the scottish rugby union. >> yes i believe that is the case in terms of. yes. yes, that is the case. i was trying to figure out whether who william and catherine were. but yes, william is wales rugby and catherine is england rugby and princess anne, as you rightly

say, is scottish rugby there? and yes, as far as we are aware, we haven't heard otherwise. the princess royal is expected to attend the garden at the attend the garden party at the palace holyrood later on palace of holyrood later on today with the king and queen. all right. >> mention qw—- >> and we'll mention the kilt maybe tomorrow more, maybe tomorrow once more, because reflect the because let's just reflect the king for the king did wear his kilt for the first engagement yesterday . so first engagement yesterday. so no you for tomorrow no pressure on you for tomorrow , update you on that , but we'll update you on that a little later. kilt and umbrella if the weather's like this. indeed thank you very much indeed. cameron updating us there edinburgh. there in edinburgh. >> now wimbledon >> thank you. now wimbledon fans who were queuing for hours yesterday and may well have had a long wait today. they have been warned to allow extra time. in fact, yesterday they had to wait for hours with what was wait for ten hours with what was described as airport airport like security. and there's been lots of drama so far on the tennis courts. >> yes. just remind you, venus williams out. djokovic, though , williams out. djokovic, though, is through. but it's not just what's happening, of course, on the courts. let's speak to tj wilson, who has left the scene

because it was so wet. we saw the rain falling in edinburgh. it's been falling in s119 as well. then >> yeah, very much so . well. then >> yeah, very much so. i'm afraid so what? >> tell us what decision did you make at what time to bail out? literally >> yeah. so i started queuing at about 6:20 this morning and got in at about 11:30 and then had a good solid half an hour of great tennis before the skies opened . tennis before the skies opened. and then after about an hour and a half, just sitting there, thought maybe i'll just luckily only live about half an hour away. so i was able to just come home and thought might be home and thought it might be more fun to watch andy murray on my sofa. so >> and the queues like >> and what were the queues like today? because yesterday, you know, reporting that know, we were reporting that they they they were horrific. were they moving ? well, yeah. i mean, the moving? well, yeah. i mean, the stewards were doing a really good job. >> obviously, there are always thousands of people there. so i think people should always expect for of expect to queue for a number of hours. but they were moving. it was really efficient. clearly

all of the bad press that they got yesterday has sort of has sort of sorted itself out. um, there were less people there today, obviously, because the weather was due to be bad. but yeah , i mean as far as i was yeah, i mean as far as i was concerned, it was really, really effective, really smooth . effective, really smooth. >> and had you heeded the warnings not take your orange warnings not to take your orange pound paint or cable or pound of paint or cable ties or handcuffs or glue or padlocks as well, i think that was on the list, yeah . list, yeah. >> i mean, the security was extremely thorough. much more than other years. i did have to sort of empty my entire bag onto a table. um, but, you know, i suppose that's just the way of it. at the moment. and presumably that's what's making it bit although it a little bit slower, although again today i think that clearly they've managed to it out somewhat. >> well, thanks for us >> well, thanks for bringing us your story least. but as you your story at least. but as you say, you watch the say, you can watch in the comfort of your own home now. but at wimbledon. thanks. but rain at wimbledon. thanks. yeah, but yeah, not that unusual, but thanks for updating us. >> back to >> let's take you back to westminster, prime westminster, where the prime minister is minister rishi sunak is continuing grilled by continuing to be grilled by senior mps at the liaison

committee. he has answered questions far on inflation. questions so far on inflation. how confident is he on his inflation target, which he did say would be halved by the end of the year? how confident is he about his rwanda policy and on ukraine, he's being questioned by that committee for some 90 minutes. the cost of living, pubuc minutes. the cost of living, public services also being covered and the importance of this is he's not being questioned at pmqs. >> tomorrow. he won't be attending that because of the nhs celebrations . so therefore nhs celebrations. so therefore the mps just getting their chance now. but we will update you with all the latest. patrick is next. here's the weather for you. if you're going to wimbledon. >> it's mcgivern >> hello, it's aidan mcgivern here met office with here from the met office with the forecast. it's the gb news forecast. it's turned to a wet afternoon in turned it to a wet afternoon in the south. that continuing the south. that rain continuing into in places, into the evening in places, showers . but for many showers elsewhere. but for many of a drying up theme of us, it is a drying up theme overnight and indeed over the next days. it's also going next few days. it's also going to warm but for the time to warm up. but for the time being, it's quite cool out there because we've got this north to

north westerly and north westerly air flow and we've got this rain spell across the south, some heavy and persistent wet weather moving through southern and then south eastern parts through the evening . the wettest weather by evening. the wettest weather by the end of the night east the end of the night into east midlands , east anglia, the midlands, east anglia, the south—east showers elsewhere and there'll still be some showers across parts scotland, across parts of scotland, north—west england and wales overnight. a lot of cloud as well. also be some well. there'll also be some clear as this system clear spells as this system moves away. quite a blustery wind associated with it well. wind associated with it as well. very strong winds into low very strong winds into the low countries by wednesday. but across the uk actually things are settling down a touch. we start off wednesday with some bright spells. a lot of cloud, however, and that cloud will, if anything, thicken through the day . still a few showers, but day. still a few showers, but these are more scattered in nature with tuesday's nature compared with tuesday's wet and in between the wet weather and in between the showers, it will be a warmer day to come with low 20s in the south. high teens in the north with top temperature 23 celsius, somewhere like east anglia. then the showers continue for a time into the evening, especially for

parts scotland. north west parts of scotland. north west england, northern but england, northern ireland. but actually plenty of clear spells developing overnight. and by the time we get to thursday morning, some decent sunshine across central parts central and southeastern parts of and a slightly warmer of england and a slightly warmer night as well. temperatures in some spots staying at 13 or 14 celsius, but we've got thickening cloud on thursday towards the northwest. initially a few showers for western scotland, northern ireland, northern england and wales. sunnier spells elsewhere and then it turns fairly wet and windy across the north—west of the uk. later thursday and into friday. whilst the heat builds further south, touching 30 by the weekend

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