gb news and it is all action today the lords have ripped the teeth out of the illegal migration bill yet again. >> despite us having a record month. i am looking at the changes that they want to make to the illegal migration bill and i am not asking whether or not it is time to just abolish the house of lords. in other news, we're also going to be talking about this as well. is ulez daylight robbery. it's in the high court today. now this ulez daylight robbery. it's in th not gh court today. now this ulez daylight robbery. it's in th not justourt today. now this ulez daylight robbery. it's in th not just airt today. now this ulez daylight robbery. it's in th not just a london. now this ulez daylight robbery. it's in th not just a london story, this ulez daylight robbery. it's in th not just a london story, mark is not just a london story, mark my words, ulez charges are coming to a town and city near you and you want to keep your eyes and ears on this court case because the result, frankly , because the result, frankly, will determine or not will determine whether or not you to drive you can afford to drive anywhere. get a of this. anywhere. get a load of this. not going let this one go. not going to let this one go. absolutely did starmer absolutely not. did keir starmer lie his relationship with lie about his relationship with sue we living in some sue gray are we living in some kind double standards kind of weird double standards reality politics and in reality now in politics and in the media? and yes, we're also going to be talking about this. so pretty much every major high street bank has signed up to the stonewall charter . okay. now,

stonewall charter. okay. now, this is very concerning in light of what we're seeing happening with people like nigel farage and our don't kill cash campaign as well. if you say the wrong thing like, oh, i don't know. i think that women are women and men are men. will your bank cancel your account ? it's all cancel your account? it's all action today. patrick christys . action today. patrick christys. gb news. yeah gb views. gb news .com . a heck of a lot to get .com. a heck of a lot to get stuck into. i'm also going to be talking about a new campaign to end veteran homelessness and whether or not we've actually been nice when it comes to been to nice when it comes to our refugee policy . why? well, our refugee policy. why? well, because about to have because now we're about to have thousands of afghans with nowhere so you know, nowhere to live. so you know, why on earth did we decide to let them in in the first place? vaiews@gbnews.com headlines now i >> -- >> good afternoon to you. it's 3:02. i'm karen armstrong in the gb newsroom . the prime minister

gb newsroom. the prime minister says ukraine needs a long term declaration of support to send a message to vladimir putin. his efforts are in vain . rishi sunak efforts are in vain. rishi sunak is being questioned by mps from the liaison committee on a range of topics that include the cost of topics that include the cost of living crisis, public services and the environment. he's reiterated his belief ukraine should be granted membership into nato's defence alliance. as britain pledges its ongoing support in their war against russia, the priority remains , as it always has been remains, as it always has been heavy armour, artillery, long—range weapons and training, most recently combat air, where we will play our part as part of an international coalition to provide combat capabilities , provide combat capabilities, particularly training of pilots i >> -- >> and we're starting that. this summer, in fact, which is something that i know the ukrainians have warmly welcomed. and we continue to talk to other countries about increasing their support for ukraine. >> thames water has been fined

£3.3 million for polluting two rivers in 2017. the company pleaded guilty to discharging millions of litres of undiluted sewage into the gatwick stream in sussex and the river mole in surrey. over the course of 6.5 hours, killing more than 1400 fish. hours, killing more than 1400 fish.the hours, killing more than 1400 fish. the judge said she believed thames water had shown a deliberate attempt to mislead the environment agency over the incident . the company, which incident. the company, which suppues incident. the company, which supplies 15 million households in the south—east faces concern overits in the south—east faces concern over its future amid mounting debt. over its future amid mounting debt . the family of over its future amid mounting debt. the family of a over its future amid mounting debt . the family of a mother over its future amid mounting debt. the family of a mother and two children who died in a flat fire in nottingham say they're relieved the killer has been brought to justice. jamie barrow has been found guilty of murdering his neighbour, fatoumata and her two fatoumata haidara and her two young daughters in clifton last yeah young daughters in clifton last year. the court heard he poured petrol through their letterbox before setting it alight and watching the fire take hold. prosecutors said barrow had a grievance over rubbish being left in an alleyway . israeli left in an alleyway. israeli police say seven people have been injured , three of them been injured, three of them critically following a terrorist

attack in the city of tel aviv . attack in the city of tel aviv. they say a palestinian man from the west bank drove into crowds and then tried to stab pedestrians before being shot dead by an armed member of the public. dead by an armed member of the pubuc.the dead by an armed member of the public. the palestinian militant group hamas have claimed responsibility, saying it's a natural response to israel's military operation in the occupied west bank. ten people, including four teenagers, have been killed after raids by israeli forces in the jenin refugee camp . a spokesman for refugee camp. a spokesman for the israeli police says the ramming incident took place outside a busy shopping centre. >> behind me is a bus stop where a terror attack took place in the vehicle, rammed his car into civilians in a populated area of tel aviv, managing to injure seven civilians. he got out of his vehicle and began trying to stab the civilians that were around him . luckily, there was around him. luckily, there was an individual, a civilian , who an individual, a civilian, who was armed and he managed to neutralise this terrorist. >> the average rate for a five year fixed mortgage deal has now moved above 6. the number of

deals on the markets also dropped , driving up costs for dropped, driving up costs for homeowners . it comes as the uk's homeowners. it comes as the uk's four major banks have been summoned to a meeting with the financial watchdog over allegations of profiteering . the allegations of profiteering. the fca will question bosses from hsbc, natwest , lloyds and hsbc, natwest, lloyds and barclays over concerns is that saving rates are lagging behind the soaring cost of mortgages by around 4. a shadow chief secretary to the treasury, pat mcfadden , says many families are mcfadden, says many families are struggling to make the payments. >> it's very concerning and it's like rolling financial thunder this. the rates are going up and up, particularly over the past month or so . and every month month or so. and every month there's about 200,000 more people coming off a two or a five year fixed rate. it might have been fixed in the past. it's something like 2% and they're now coming on to the kind of rates that you've just quoted. it's going to cost families hundreds of pounds a month when they renew these deals . deals. >> teachers unions are calling on the government to release the

pay on the government to release the pay recommendations made by an independent body. any eu members independent body. any eu members in england will stage fresh strikes this week. on wednesday and friday over the ongoing pay dispute. all four education unions rejected the government's latest offer of £1,000 and a 4.5% pay rise . meta, the company 4.5% pay rise. meta, the company he owns that owns facebook , is he owns that owns facebook, is launching a new app to rival twitter threads, which will be unked twitter threads, which will be linked to instagram, is described as a text based conversation app, which appears to closely resemble its main competitor. it's the latest chapter in the rivalry between the facebook boss mark zuckerberg and elon musk, who bought twitter in october . bought twitter in october. twitter recently announced that unverified users that's those who don't pay , will be limited who don't pay, will be limited to reading 600 posts per day . to reading 600 posts per day. that's it for the moment here on gb news. more as it happens through the afternoon. but now it is back to .

it is back to. patrick >> the house of lords is full of silly old duffers who are so far removed from the will of the people. they're actively ruining britain. yesterday, the lords pred britain. yesterday, the lords ripped the teeth out of the illegal migration bill, showing just out of touch just how utterly out of touch they really are. they voted to allow a court of tribunal to block or delay deporting people . to allow people . they voted to allow people pretending to be gay to just continue to game the system and claim they be claim that they will be persecuted in their own country. it is, of course, an incredibly difficult thing to prove that somebody ironically, somebody is gay. as ironically, quite few members house quite a few members of the house of well be aware. they of lords may well be aware. they voted existing 24 voted to retain an existing 24 hour limit on the detention of unaccompanied children. unaccompanied migrant children. well that's isn't it? well that's great, isn't it? amazing how old children can look these days ? gosh, they're look these days? gosh, they're growing full beards . much growing full beards. much younger now, aren't they? yet again allowing again. the lords is allowing people to just game the system and they must know this. they must not. the home office said that between 2016 and december

2022, there were 7900 asylum cases where age was disputed and subsequently resolved. of which 49% were later found to be adults. so basically half of those claiming to be children are adults . do you remember this are adults. do you remember this big scandal of child asylum seekers going missing from hotels yet? does anybody else think that maybe they might not have really been children? the lords, backed by 226 votes to 152, a move to retain a 72 hour limit on the detention of pregnant women who cross via small boat or by other irregular routes . okay, well, look, routes. okay, well, look, obviously over nicely. nobody would want any pregnant ladies to suffer at all. i would, however politely question the logic of a pregnant woman who isn't concerned about the safety of her unborn child to the extent that she thinks the best opfion extent that she thinks the best option is to walk through several perfectly safe countries and then a dinghy and and then get in a dinghy and cross the busiest shipping lane in the world. the average age of

the house of lords is apparently 71. of them very well 71. a lot of them are very well to do . they may well have to do. they may well have a couple of homes, possibly nice couple of homes, possibly a nice little bolthole in the south of france where the kids have france and where the kids have gone through private school, through university. they've got a swanning and through university. they've got a of swanning and through university. they've got a of westminster, ning and through university. they've got a of westminster, collectingd out of westminster, collecting their 300 odd quid a day attendance allowance plus travel expenses and let's not forget that that wonderful subsidised restaurant facility . oh, oh, restaurant facility. oh, oh, lovely . shall we shall we have lovely. shall we shall we have another glass of this chateauneuf du pape while we pontificate about. about human rights. jethro what a lovely life. what a lovely life. yeah, well, all ordinary people are losing their jobs because of migrant hotels. towns are missing out on hundreds of millions of pounds worth of investment. 8000 afghan refugees are potentially now just going to be homeless because our desire kind to the world desire to be kind to the world means that we've actually let in too many people so that we can't look after them. we've just launched a helpline for homeless veterans because got so veterans because we've got so many the taxpayer is many of them. the taxpayer is paying many of them. the taxpayer is paying billions to accommodate

people. women live in fear, walking home alone night, walking home alone at night, near an asylum seeker hotel. so maybe they now have to get a taxi, which of course isn't subsidised by the taxpayer . can subsidised by the taxpayer. can you see the contrast there between the life of the lords and the life of the ordinary british person? and can you see the difference between what the ordinary british person wants, which is to stop the boats and what the lords are doing, which is to help create another record month of arrivals the month of arrivals in the channel. the lords , in my view, channel. the lords, in my view, are out of touch and their lives are out of touch and their lives are impacted upon as are not impacted upon as a result of their decisions , as result of their decisions, as it's result of their decisions, as wsfime result of their decisions, as it's time to swerve. the lords or abolish them completely. they've had it too good for too long or the british public are suffering . well that's what suffering. well that's what i think anyway. vaiews@gbnews.com. get them coming in thick and fast it and coupled with the court of appeals blocking the rwanda policy it is of course another

blow for rishi sunak and his increased overly ambitious pledge to the boats. i am pledge to stop the boats. i am joined now jeremy from joined now by jeremy hudson from migration watch. jeremy, thank you very, very much . i think you very, very much. i think it's absolutely scandalous. what's been going on in the lords. there's even talk of the archbishop of canterbury now wanting to some wanting us to sign up to some giant, global refugee giant, great big global refugee program . are they just massively program. are they just massively out of touch with the will of the people, do you think? >> i think that's without a >> yes, i think that's without a doubt. there too many people doubt. there are too many people in house of lords care care in the house of lords care care more how they're seen on more about how they're seen on the international how the international stage and how the international stage and how the similar other the uk is similar to other countries like, as, countries they like, such as, say, macron's government or or joe government , rather joe biden's government, rather than trying to actually fix problems that the british people want them to fix. and of course, these aren't actually these people aren't actually elected this . i am elected to do this. i am a traditionalist and so i do appreciate having a house of lords, but it clearly needs reform. and i don't think the half arsed reforms oh, excuse my french. all right. of tony blair's periods did fix the problem at all. i think if anything, they they made it worse by creating a sort of a

theocracy where you just give your your mate a gong and then he goes into the lords and then he goes into the lords and then he after a few years and he looks after a few years and now we've got a bizarre imbalance you've got the imbalance where you've got the conservative dominating imbalance where you've got the con commons dominating imbalance where you've got the con commons and dominating imbalance where you've got the con commons and labourating imbalance where you've got the con commons and labour and| imbalance where you've got the con commons and labour and the the commons and labour and the lib democrats and lib dem liberal democrats and many support many crossbenchers who support them dominating lords. and them dominating the lords. and there's change there's no way to really change that reform . and that without radical reform. and it's not working for the government. we've government. i mean, think we've actually expected things to get to this point for quite a while. we thought legal we always thought that legal migration going to hit migration bill was going to hit the in the lords and so the buffers in the lords and so it's come to be. >> yeah, but there has to be a limit to this. and by my by sums here, there are 263 tories and 511 non tories in the lords , not 511 non tories in the lords, not all of those tories, one would imagine, would agree with this illegal migration bill as well. so you have to factor that in. but there appears to be a bigger discrepancy now than arguably i've ever seen, apart from, of course when it came to brexit. it between the will of the british people and where they are at on an issue like illegal

immigration, like the amount of expenditure that we're doing, like stopping the boats and what the house of lords are trying to do. and i fear that it's gon beyond legislative scrutiny and it's just moved towards as rampant ideology that is so out of kilter and their lives. i refuse to believe that their lives are as touched by this as, for example, the people in that hotel that's now an asylum seeker hotel in wales, 95 of them just got served their notice. what are they going to do? and the lords isn't really offering any solutions. if anything, like the archbishop of canterbury. actually canterbury. i mean, he actually maybe wants to make things worse by more people . by accepting more people. >> with you. when >> i agree with you. when you look of these look at a lot of these amendments individually, they're not probably not you know, they're probably one put one of the government could put up when you take them up with. but when you take them all together, it does almost all all together, it does almost seem like been seem like there's been a concerted plan to disable the bill at every juncture and create sorts of different create all sorts of different ways in it can be abused ways in which it can be abused by people trying to enter the uk illegally. the funny situation we have now, of course, is that the small is quite

the small boats bill is quite a radical piece of legislation and in usual circumstances that would have been in the party's manifesto and so we would have had the chance to endorse it at a general election. now of course, such political course, we've had such political turmoil since 2019 that that hasn't happened . and so the hasn't happened. and so the lords have no, there's usually a convention whereby they will endorse things that the government had. people vote government had. the people vote for this turmoil for and because of this turmoil that's not happened. so there no, are intervening every no, there are intervening every single point they stop it. >> i seriously think that rishi is being backed a corner is being backed into a corner here he is going to at here where he is going to at some point going to have to just say, okay, i am putting this bill in this specific form to the nation to go and vote on it, because otherwise it's going to keep getting knocked around like a game of kind of old duffers ping a game of kind of old duffers ping pong in the house of lords. let's just have a look at some of things that they of these things that they want to change. this gets me to change. i mean, this gets me right. they voted retain right. so they voted to retain an existing 24 hour limit on the detention of unaccompanied migrant . fine. migrant children. okay, fine.

but must know they must but they must know they must know that at least 50% of people coming across the channel claiming to be children and this is according to the home office, 49. but let's be honest with ourselves, here are adults and by limiting the amount of time that these people can be detained to presumably find out a little bit about them, you then releasing them off into asylum seeker hotels. et cetera. then people can abscond or then these people can abscond or in fact, it is dangerous, frankly, for the children, frankly, for the other children, genuine might genuine children who might already there to have already be in there to have a load these of virulent load of these kind of virulent young teenage men in there with them . i mean, they must know them. i mean, they must know that that is just a way of people gaming the system. >> absolutely. it's i think they're to go for death they're trying to go for death by a thousand cuts steadily whittling away the will of the government to actually put its legislative into legislative time into this because unfortunately, with the court appeal defeat well. court of appeal defeat as well. and then waiting for a supreme court hearing and then maybe a european convention and human rights hearing as well, at some point the government are going

to think, okay, is this worth our should we just well, our time or should we just well, put essentially, and put it bench it essentially, and focus on things that we can focus on on things that we can to hope win votes on because at this rate, they're not going to actually get this this passing getting flights off to rwanda before the next election. it's just all taking far too long. and i think that's exactly what the and the opposition the lords and the opposition want to do. they just want to keep can the keep kicking the can down the road, except they haven't road, except what they haven't worked, they haven't worked, what they haven't considered. is if considered. sorry is that if they keep kicking the can down they keep kicking the can down the road, they're ones that the road, they're the ones that are going to have to deal with this. yeah, the small boats problem isn't going to go away and the opposition solution isn't think will isn't one that i think will actually solve it or reduce it at unless, course, they at all, unless, of course, they don't want to solve it. but i wouldn't want to make such assumptions. >> no, i mean, this is it isn't it? i could, you know, if i was sitting here and every single day house of day someone in the house of lords popping up with lords was popping up with a solution, we thought, oh, actually, just actually, that probably is just actually, that probably is just a solution. that's the a better solution. that's the answer all. but we don't answer to it all. but we don't get any that stuff, do we? get any of that stuff, do we?

instead, we get situations where they well, look, if people they go, well, look, if people are legitimate, to be are are legitimate, going to be persecuted own country persecuted in their own country for a member lgbt for being a member of the lgbt q plus community, though, then we can't can't possibly can't we can't possibly send them back. i mean, i would be absolutely see what absolutely amazed to see what kind would kind of evidence people would need able i mean, the need now to be able i mean, the mind boggles, doesn't it? what kind evidence would have to kind of evidence would have to be produced prove that be produced to prove that somebody indeed a member somebody was indeed a member of the lgbtq community? is the lgbtq community? this is again, another way again, just another way of gaming there will gaming the system. there will undoubtedly be some people, of course, who will face persecution their persecution in their own countries as a result of their sexual and that is sexual preferences and that is a thing. but it is also undeniably an easy way to stay in to britain. and with respect, you're not persecuted for being a member of the lgbt community in any of the countries you've had to wander through before you've got on a dinghy and cross the busiest shipping lane in the world and found yourself in britain. >> absolutely. interesting >> absolutely. the interesting thing that lgbt amendment thing about that lgbt amendment is also that it if i'm understanding correctly, it would the government from would stop the government from sending who are lgbt to

sending people who are lgbt to rwanda. and so , of course rwanda. and so, of course completely derailing the plan because then you've suddenly got, as you've been saying, a giant, um, incentive to claim to be to be lgbt, though it's, i mean, on its own, you can you can see the logic for the lords to endorse this. but i would question how many people on the small boats coming into england do that description. how do fit that description. how many people would would actually be legitimately be suffering from persecution and how many like you saying just be, like you saying would just be, well, pulling a fast one. yeah indeed. >> jeremy, thank you very, very, very always great to very much. it's always great to have on the show, especially have you on the show, especially at the top of it. jeremy hutson there from migration watch. loads emails in loads of emails coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. loads of emails coming in gbviews@gusews.com. loads of emails coming in gbviews@gus to s.com. loads of emails coming in gbviews@gus to s.com another calling on us to start another petition in order see if we petition in order to see if we can abolish the house lords. can abolish the house of lords. look, got one look, we've already got one on the at the minute is of the go. at the minute is of course the don't kill cash petition. i'll be talking about that second. but more that in just a second. but more on that initial story about the house ripping the teeth house of lords ripping the teeth out illegal out of the illegal migration bill website, which is gb bill on our website, which is gb news com. yes, it is still

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is coming to a town or a city near you, falls through against the will of the people. how many times have we heard that? but trust me, you are going to want to out exactly what's to find out exactly what's happening here because. yeah well, be the well, frankly, it might be the difference between whether or not to take your not you are able to take your car your without it car off your drive without it costing you a

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> well, in just a few moments time, i will talk about allegations that keir starmer got this lied about the appointment of sue gray can you imagine? that's shocking. can you imagine? anyway, and there's more on banks shutting customers accounts as it emerges that so many of the banks have signed up to a scheme run by controversial local charity stonewall, which opens up a whole nother can of worms, doesn't it? if you decide that want to tweet something that you want to tweet something about a woman being a woman and about a woman being a woman and a man being a well, would a man being a man, well, would you be against banks

you now be against the banks values? have just values? and would they have just cause shut your account cause to shut your account down more on that shortly. but this is also it's a huge day is also a big it's a huge day for the thousands and thousands of families who will face financial ruin down to one of sadiq khan's most controversial policies. but this story doesn't just affect london. as i was saying earlier, if khan wins this one, it could change the life of millions of people all over the uk. the mayor of london's plan to extend the caphaps london's plan to extend the capital's ultra low emission zone would see motorists charge £12.50 a day if their vehicles don't meet the required emissions standards and if khan's scheme survives a legal challenge in the high court, you can be sure that councils right across the country will follow suit. in fact, i know a lot of people who've already started getting letters about it. in fact, clean schemes fact, other clean air schemes with daily charges for non compliant already compliant vehicles have already been across the been implemented across the country. take look at country. let's take a look at some shall we? drivers some of them, shall we? drivers in or bath, if you're from in bath or bath, if you're from down paying day, down south, are paying £9 a day, driving into birmingham's clean air zone, which i'm assuming is

air zone, which i'm assuming is a slight oxymoron that costs £8. bristol's daily cost is £9. and as i just said, driving through london's inner city, which is actually quite large, will set you back £12.50. i am joined now by councillor matt furness , by councillor matt furness, who's surrey council's cabinet member for transport infrastructure and growth. great to have you on the show. thank you very, very much. why are you opposed to this ? opposed to this? >> so we're mainly opposed because sadiq khan hasn't provided any mitigation for surrey residents so effectively , surrey residents will be paying , surrey residents will be paying a tax in order to go about their daily business, whether it's education, medical appointments or work. it's across the border into london. but see, none of the benefits . but see, none of the benefits. so we've been really pushing for an extension of the scrappage scheme , an improved bus and scheme, an improved bus and train offer , as well as train offer, as well as exemptions for key workers as well as people who are attending hospital or medical appointments across the border. to date , across the border. to date, we've had no contact from the

mayor's office, but better late than never. tfl have offered us a meeting in two weeks time. >> okay . all right. but this is >> okay. all right. but this is also about an expansion, isn't it , really? and it's gone from it, really? and it's gone from being people , all right. in a being people, all right. in a city centre where the roads weren't necessarily designed for the level of human population that we have now. and the level of traffic, you can just about see a justification there to an extent. but we're talking about very leafy suburbs here where if you essentially took your car off the driveway and maybe drove it a few miles, you would end up being charged £12, 50 a day, which is surprising to say the least , isn't which is surprising to say the least, isn't it? and i think that's that's what it's about for me because other areas now people living say just outside greater manchester, for example, or again outside birmingham, liverpool, take pick . we'll liverpool, take your pick. we'll think, this won't affect think, well, this won't affect me. well it could me. well, well it could actually, couldn't it? >> absolutely. yes. and that's actually we've joined in actually why we've joined in with boroughs with the other london boroughs in order challenge this. we in to order challenge this. we do know that the mayor of london

has underestimated the number of people that will be affected by this non compliant this with their non compliant cars. for example, did cars. heathrow for example, did an analysis of their own employees and found 10,000 had non—compliant cars. so is going to affect a lot of people and that's why we did join in with with this action. and today it was a very technical start to the hearing , was a very technical start to the hearing, but it was a very useful one. and the judge was asking some some very clear points to our council and the mayor's council as well . mayor's council as well. >> okay. but look, why has the pubuc >> okay. but look, why has the public reaction been like to expand ulez you read more reports on this and i've got some in front of me now. nearly twice as many londoners support the expansion of ulez as dodi . the expansion of ulez as dodi. but then i read some other ones that go well. this survey was he'd already bought the cameras for it or something like that before actually consulted before he'd actually consulted anyone. so basically they'd already decided that were already decided that they were going it anyway before going to do it anyway before they actually asked people whether they it

whether or not they thought it was idea. mean, what was a good idea. i mean, what has reaction been has sadiq khan's reaction been like to the public when it comes to whether or not they want this stuff? >> well, i think you can see the clear reaction when the london assembly rolls task. all assembly rolls into task. all i can say is from the surrey side , there has been great concern from the residents about how this is going to affect their day lives and that sort day to day lives and that sort of communication, that lack of mitigation has just not come across . as said, we have got across. as said, we have got a meeting coming up with tfl, but what i really say is it's only because we've joined in with the other london boroughs to take this to court that we're actually getting that level of cooperation now before then we had absolutely no communication to any of our letters or consultation responses. >> right. okay. i'm just reading another headline here that tfl's claim that 9 in 10 drivers would be unaffected , which is the kind be unaffected, which is the kind of claim you make if you want to win public support for something that you know is going to be deeply controversial. well it turns apparently, turns out that apparently, allegedly, just

allegedly, that's just completely unsubstantiated, which i think which is something i think you were there. so were alluding to there. so whether that was kind of whether or not that was kind of based on but you must be based on lies, but you must be heanng based on lies, but you must be hearing people, real people hearing from people, real people in world, who's facing in the real world, who's facing financial ruin as a result of you know, yet another example of this kind of ridiculous big net, zero big green agenda that , zero big green agenda that, again, targets and hits ordinary people in the pocket. i mean, you must be hearing from people who are terrified of this coming in. >> absolutely. yes. i mean , the >> absolutely. yes. i mean, the majority of the correspondence that we do get from residents within surrey is a real concern about how they are going to go about how they are going to go about their day to day living. how are they going to cross the border to get their kids to school? how are they going to get across to do work as well? so, i mean, is a real concern so, i mean, it is a real concern and that's why we've been fighting that extra fighting for that extra mitigation across. and mitigation to come across. and if the court case does not go in our favour and ulez does does expand , we will still be arguing expand, we will still be arguing for that mitigation action. the

difference is the mayor's office actually has to work with surrey county council if they want to get any advanced signage up. we've to this we've said no to this date. we're going work until we're not going to work until they together that they put together that mitigation surrey residents. mitigation for surrey residents. so at the end of the day , the so at the end of the day, the dooris so at the end of the day, the door is open. they need to work. but we are not supporting it as it currently stands. >> i find it remarkable as well. a lot of a lot of inner city mayors or council leaders, etcetera, are labour supposed to be, you know, the working class party and all of this stuff? it is, of course, working class people who as always, will suffer the most as a result of this . and i've some footage this. and i've seen some footage which would appear to indicate that sadiq khan trying to that sadiq khan is trying to demonise people as who demonise some people as well who don't this stuff. i don't agree with this stuff. i mean, yet again, he's wheeling out well, if you out things are well, if you don't ulez and you don't don't bike ulez and you don't bike the ultra low emission zone, be member of zone, you must be a member of the right. i mean, it's just the far right. i mean, it's just it's just bonkers, isn't it? >> well, i'm not going to go into what the mayor of london saying. of

saying. i mean, at the end of the day, our responsibility is to the residents of surrey. we've this action we've joined in this this action with other london boroughs with the other london boroughs and clear we've and it's very clear that we've got a strong case. we've been allowed three of the five allowed three out of the five actions from from the courts to hear this on, and that's what we're going through now. so we've got two days. we are putting up our best fight to make sure that the residents outside of london actually get their and we are standing their say. and we are standing up for the residents of surrey as county council look. as the county council look. >> thank very >> good stuff. thank you very much coming on. councillor much for coming on. councillor matt those surrey matt furness. those surrey council's cabinet member for transport, and transport, infrastructure and growth. want to growth. just again, i want to emphasise, look there was a lot of london that's of chat about london and that's just because this is just literally because this is where this is happening. and like of things, things like a lot of things, things might in and then might start in london and then work up to the rest of work their way up to the rest of the country. know the people the country. i know the people of very concerned of birmingham are very concerned about a lot about this. for example, a lot of in greater manchester of people in greater manchester have getting have already started getting letters that letters telling them that something might something like this might happen. i think a slippery happen. i think it's a slippery slope second that slope because the second that they expand an area, they start to expand an area, then they expand it again, then they it again. and before

they expand it again. and before you you're taking your you know it, you're taking your car driveway and it's car off your driveway and it's costing £12.50 single costing you £12.50 every single day. anyway, now and day. anyway, between now and 4 pm. lie p.m. did sir keir starmer lie about contacts with sue about his contacts with sue gray? he's an honest man, full of integrity. did lie, of integrity. did he lie, though? he lie? that's though? did he lie? that's what's claimed after sue what's being claimed after sue gray found to broken gray was found to have broken civil and there's civil service rules. and there's the the banks. the latest on the banks. controversial closing controversial policy of closing people's accounts. if they don't agree their views. now, agree with their views. now, though, as your headlines with polly . patrick, thank you. polly. patrick, thank you. >> the headlines this hour. the prime minister says ukraine needs a long term debt colouration of support to send a message to vladimir putin that russia's invasion will amount to nothing . rishi sunak has been nothing. rishi sunak has been questioned today by mps from the liaison committee on a range of topics , including ukraine. the topics, including ukraine. the cost of living , topics, including ukraine. the cost of living, public topics, including ukraine. the cost of living , public services cost of living, public services and the environment . he has and the environment. he has reiterated his belief that ukraine should be granted membership of nato, as britain pledges its ongoing support in

its fight against russia . thames its fight against russia. thames water has been fined £3.3 million for polluting two rivers back in 2017. the company pleaded guilty, admitting to discharging millions of litres of undiluted sewage into the gatwick stream in sussex and the river mole in surrey . over the river mole in surrey. over the course of 6.5 hours, it killed more than 1400 fish, the judge said she believed thames water had also demonstrated a deliberate attempt to mislead the environment agency over the incident . the average rate for a incident. the average rate for a five year fixed rate mortgage deal has now moved above 6. that's after the uk's four major banks were summoned to a meeting with the financial watchdog over allegations of profiteering . the allegations of profiteering. the fca will question the bosses of hsbc, natwest , lloyds and hsbc, natwest, lloyds and barclays over concerns that savings rates are lagging behind the soaring cost of mortgages by

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man. and do you think he lied then ? then? >>i then? >> i think i think he probably avoided the full truth. i suspect that he's chosen his words very carefully as a as a former lawyer would do . so he former lawyer would do. so he can't get into a formal issue here. so he's probably been very selective with the way he's described what happened. >> do you think that's good enough for a bloke who, you know, prided himself, hasn't know, is prided himself, hasn't he, on honesty and integrity? if as indeed, you know, the result has now been as a result of a cabinet office investigation, that grey broke civil service rules as a result of undeclared contact between her and the labour party. i mean, the other side to that undeclared contact is the labour party, isn't it? and by keir starmer i >> -- >> yeah, i exam >> yeah, i think you're right. i think for someone who's putting forward an image of being trustworthy and honest with the public, then it is an issue where he's found to have misled people or at least is trying to cloud what actually happened. and it's also not good from the

civil service perspective , civil service perspective, because obviously sue gray had a hugely politically important role in what she was doing. and of course it does look quite dodgy really, if she's gone straight from the civil service where she was investigating the conservative prime minister into working for the labour party . working for the labour party. and that's simply an area where we need a lot more transparency. do you think the public is just being asked to accept that certain things that are a little bit orwellian in the sense of, okay, there was the boris johnson partygate stuff. >> i mean, that went on and on and on, and there's been a conclusion to that. and you know, all of this talk about morals and integrity and we're being to accept the being asked to accept that the civil is this civil service really is this completely bastion of completely impartial bastion of good world. and i think good in the world. and i think you just realise that, well, here is something that to me would the potential for would scream the potential for deceit and deception and dishonesty and certainly the potential for something not being particularly impartial . being particularly impartial. and there also maybe being an influence on the judgement of

the prime minister, the former prime minister, that everyone was sticking to for ages and was sticking it to for ages and i mean, this isn't getting anything like the kind of media attention that partygate attention that the partygate stuff is it? stuff got, is it? >> no , it's and i think >> no, it's not. and i think it's of a broader problem it's part of a broader problem we a country where we we have as a country where we tell ourselves these stories, these narratives that actually aren't like our aren't true. so things like our civil services, the rolls—royce of civil services, right, that they're the best in the world, that our health care system is brilliant. it's amazing. and everybody copy it or everybody wants to copy it or things our economy is rip things like our economy is rip roaring. it's a success. we're one strongest economies one of the strongest economies in when we're in a in the world when we're in a weakening position yearly. i mean, we a country, i think, mean, we as a country, i think, need to take serious look need to just take a serious look at we actually govern at how we actually govern ourselves. because we're ourselves. and because we're telling just telling these things to just simply no , indeed. simply aren't true, no, indeed. >> i mean, look, what now for keir because keir starmer? because depressingly, i just don't really think this is going to have any impact whatsoever. sue gray going to on. she's gray is going to carry on. she's going to be a chief of staff. she'll probably be quite a good chief staff. keir starmer chief of staff. keir starmer will continue to hurtle towards downing some i

downing street at some point, i would is would imagine. i mean, it is amazing perception sticks in amazing how perception sticks in one then then not one case and then and then not in another isn't it? in another really, isn't it? well yeah, all politics is basically a two party adversarial system. >> and the key, isn't it? you, you yourself as a party have to be brilliant. you just have to be brilliant. you just have to be better than the rivals. right? concern is right? and so the concern is kind of melodrama since the, you know, the last two years or so has tainted their brand so much that could do much worse that labour could do much worse stuff than this, than the sue gray incident. and still be seen as a party that's trusted more. it's the same in 2019, right? this idea that boris johnson was universally popular going into the election, he approval the election, he had approval ratings of —12. it was just the corbyn was just disliked by everybody. so you don't have to be brilliant. you just have to be brilliant. you just have to be better than the opposition party, really. and that's what keir starmer has done quite skilfully. >> is there any way this will stick though? you know, is there any that the minds of the any way that in the minds of the british this will british public, this this will stick? know, with stick? because, you know, with bofis stick? because, you know, with boris johnson, what eventually

happened with that incredible drip, information, happened with that incredible drip, of information, happened with that incredible drip, of true, information, happened with that incredible drip, of true, inf0|of3tion, happened with that incredible drip, of true, inf0|of iton, happened with that incredible drip, of true, inf0|of it not some of it true, some of it not that was splashed across the media eventually that got at media was eventually that got at tories who used to like boris that got out enough people who eventually went right, look enough of this now . i have now enough of this now. i have now changed my opinion of this man and i want him out, which is partly, in the end, what what really did for him. whereas i wonder whether or not that's going happen with keir going to happen with keir starmer. is this actually going to way , shape or form, to in any way, shape or form, even turns out he even if it turns out he categorically about this, categorically lied about this, which he would deny, which no doubt he would deny, even turn out to be even if he did turn out to be categorically even the categorically even though the cabinet office has found that there was a massive problem with with sue gray, is this actually going sway any labour voters going to sway any labour voters or any voters out there ? or any voters out there? >> no, i think this will not even touch the surface of public opinion. i mean, look at the type of things alastair campbell got away with for years as tony blair's kind of second in command. right. or gordon brown being able to phones being able to throw phones across the office. these things don't really, because don't stick really, because they're beyond what the day to

day of politics, the people actually care about. and when the issues that are facing the country so big, right. the country are so big, right. the economy, health service, economy, the health service, immigration, this is just this is non—story that, you know, is a non—story that, you know, political geeks like us like to talk but it won't move talk about, but it won't move like i feel a like that because i feel a slight, slight burning sense of injustice that there's not because you could you could make loads of this. >> you could i mean, obviously, we're talking about it now and all but the meat you all of that. but if the meat you really wanted to, could go really wanted to, they could go absolutely on this absolutely massive on this and make life very make keir starmer's life very very but of very uncomfortable. but of course they're not going to do that. look, thank you very, very much. really enjoy our much. i really do enjoy our chats. david jeffrey chats. doctor david jeffrey there, who is lecturer in british the british politics at the university of liverpool, just filling you in on the latest from right. why have so from sue gray right. why have so many signed up many high street banks signed up to scheme run by a to a diversity scheme run by a discredited chat ? motty, discredited chat? motty, stonewall and is this is this going to be the next phase in the old cancellation of banks? if you think that women are women and men are men, you have contravened a banks policy and

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farage last thursday. it's showing no sign of going away . showing no sign of going away. if you have an opinion that's considered anti—woke , you might considered anti—woke, you might soon join a growing list of people who've had their accounts closed used by totalitarian uk banks.even closed used by totalitarian uk banks. even an anglican vicar fell foul of this worrying new purge when he aired his views on yorkshire building society's prize agenda. and now it turns out that more than half of the major high street banks have signed up to a diversity scheme run by discredited lgbt charity stonewall, which does have some pretty fruity views. interesting views, i suppose . i am joined views, i suppose. i am joined now by human rights and lgbt campaigner peter tatchell. peter thank you very much. are you concerned that banks could use this as a way of going? well, you have contravened our ethical code and therefore we're we don't want you to bank with us anymore . oh well , don't want you to bank with us anymore . oh well, as you don't want you to bank with us anymore . oh well , as you know, anymore. oh well, as you know, i disagree with nigel farage on many issues , but it is many issues, but it is absolutely outrageous that his

bank account has been closed . bank account has been closed. >> and this idea that banks should be acting as censors to close accounts of people whose opinions they disagree with that is totally unacceptable . and is totally unacceptable. and it's yet another example . the it's yet another example. the way in which banks are unaccountable and the financial conduct authority has failed to regulate them because no one, whatever their opinion, providing its lawful and not inciting violence , no one should inciting violence, no one should have their bank account closed. >> and i would i don't know. i'll ask you, i suppose, to find out what you think. but as an lgbt campaigner who i think it's fair to say, peter, is relatively positive about stonewall and everything that they say or do. really, i would potentially be quite worried that that banks might use stonewall for quite nefarious reasons too . like i said, go reasons too. like i said, go well, you don't share our values and therefore that could be an

excuse for them to shut your bank account down, which i don't really think anyone who supports stonewall would really want, would they ? would they? >> no, of course not. and stonewall has no involved whatsoever in in banking operations . it doesn't seek to operations. it doesn't seek to influence banking policy. it simply provides workplace advice on how to make workplaces safer and more comfortable for lgbt+ employees . us and most of the employees. us and most of the work it does is about discrimination issues , discrimination issues, harassment issues, issues that everybody would agree are unacceptable in the workplace. >> they do . >> they do. >> they do. >> this report that you reference , they've only cited reference, they've only cited three examples of people who've had their bank accounts closed and even those cases , it's not and even those cases, it's not actually proven that they were closed because of their political beliefs. it may be the case, but it's not been proven because they won't tell. you said that we have closed their account because of their

political views. >> yeah, exactly . it's >> yeah, exactly. it's incredibly difficult, >> yeah, exactly. it's incredibly difficult , though, to incredibly difficult, though, to be able to tell as nigel has found out, really why ? because found out, really why? because banks feel absolutely no obugafion banks feel absolutely no obligation whatsoever to tell you the real reasons behind it, which is why people have to try and put two and two together. and then when people at the and then when people look at the pattern who been pattern of people who have been biffed banks, you start biffed by their banks, you start to maybe think, well, this is this is kind what it's about, this is kind of what it's about, really. but don't stonewall, do some table of some kind of league table of company rs or corporations. they rate them as being oh you are you are the, the pinnacle of what we are asking to do. is that right? i mean what would a company have to do to become, um, you know, number one on stonewall's list? and frankly, why should companies care? well the companies care because as stonewall's advice has actually helped them be better companies get more out of their employees and create better harmony in the workplace . workplace. >> yes. so stonewall is dedicated for lgbt+ people , but

dedicated for lgbt+ people, but equally , you know, employers equally, you know, employers should be concerned about age discrimination , non discrimination, non discrimination, non discrimination based on class or income discrimination based on gender or or ethnicity . it income discrimination based on gender or or ethnicity. it makes good sense for companies to have kyiv, inclusive, diverse policy is because that way they attract the most talented people and we know from the research that's been done for lgbt+ employees who are not treated well in the workplace will leave their companies and go elsewhere. so that company perhaps has trained that company perhaps has trained that person up . they lose them. that person up. they lose them. that's a loss of investment . so that's a loss of investment. so it's in their interest to have policies to keep the employees happy and content and to ensure there is no harassment or bullying in the workplace. >> what about harassment or bullying of people that think that women are women and men are men that there be no men and that there can be no kind grey area about that? kind of grey area about that? because i think that would be something i would be something that i would be

concerned if i worked in concerned about if i worked in a bank had signed up to this bank that had signed up to this kind charter or kind of stonewall charter or whatever it is. it's basically it seems to be saying that they agree with stonewall's ideology and actually that is an ideology thatis and actually that is an ideology that is contested by biological, scientific and medical fact. and a lot of religions as well are bullying. >> full stop is never acceptable against anyone for any reason. everybody must be able to work at their place of employment without suffering harassment or bullying. so that's very clear to me. with regard to stonewall, they have you know, they do some work on gender identity issues . work on gender identity issues. that's true. but it's only a very small fragment of the overall work they do. so most of it is focussed on lesbian, gay and bisexual people and, you know, they work primarily in that area, in that space. yes. but i would say that , yes, of but i would say that, yes, of course, people would understandably be concerned if

they felt undue pressure. but i think just as many companies now have good employment policies with regard to women and black people, many are now trying to have good policies for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender employees . but, you know, if you employees. but, you know, if you have a critical view , i will have a critical view, i will i will on gender identity. i will challenge you and you will challenge you and you will challenge me and that's fair, you know, but we don't bully each other or abuse. and i don't want and with respect, i don't i don't want to see you have your bank account closed about biological sex is a reality. motty. and most women are women based on their biological sex. but there's a small minority of women, trans women , whose female women, trans women, whose female identity is based on their gender identity, which scientific evidence shows is influenced in part by brain structures and processes . so structures and processes. so that also means that there

identity has a biological root as well. and i think that rather than fighting each other , i than fighting each other, i think we need to find the common ground between women and trans women. you know, there's a lot of common ground. they all suffer from discrimination. think. >> i think i think, unfortunately, sexual assault . i unfortunately, sexual assault. i think unfortunately, look , you think unfortunately, look, you and i, as you well know, completely differ on that. and i think, unfortunately, as long as there is some push for that common ground to be where they might go to the toilets or what prison be in or where prison they might be in or where they're changing room their they're what changing room their children get changed in at schools. not sure we schools. i'm not sure that we are ever going to agree on that. but i always enjoy our but peter, i do always enjoy our chats. do always our chats. i do always enjoy our chats. i do always enjoy our chats take care. peter chats and take care. peter tatchell, who's human rights campaigner, campaigner as campaigner, lgbt campaigner as well. obviously well. look, we obviously got this campaign going at the this this campaign going at the minute. cash. and minute. don't kill cash. and i think that ties into it, frankly, to our frankly, as well. go to our website news .com forward website gb news .com forward slash take part slash cash and you can take part in i'm increasingly in this. i'm increasingly concerned i think people concerned as i think many people should who can should be, that banks who can say that you don't align to our values you can see a qr code on

the there hold your phone the screen there hold your phone overit the screen there hold your phone over it get it done. we'll basically that you're basically just say that you're not be able to bank not going to be able to bank with us if you don't have certain views. and that's just ridiculous. is ridiculous. but anyway, today is your donate money your last chance to donate money to the charity fundraising page for far, you have for mind. so far, you have managed more than managed to raise more than £100,000 for mind. now, it all started when i agreed to perform with the dreamboys who are a group of male strippers. last wednesday. it actually happened, yes. okay i did do three routines the night. one of routines on the night. one of them was a solo and i've been them was as a solo and i've been raising money for a cause that is very, very, close to my is very, very, very close to my heart. i'm delighted to say heart. and i'm delighted to say that we have now raised . that we have now raised. £100,792, which is unbelievable, especially in the middle of a cost of living crisis. thank you.thank cost of living crisis. thank you. thank you. thank you so much. we are closing donations now as of midnight tonight. much. we are closing donations now as of midnight tonight . so now as of midnight tonight. so just giving .com forward slash fundraising , forward slash

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very shortly. well, it's going to be talking about this as well. yes. the house of lords have ripped the teeth out of the illegal migration yet illegal migration bill, yet again. think similarly again. i think now, similarly with brexit, is a massive with brexit, there is a massive discrepancy between house discrepancy between the house of lords the world and what lords view of the world and what the people actually lords view of the world and what the and people actually lords view of the world and what the and iszople actually lords view of the world and what the and iszo|time:tually lords view of the world and what the and iszo|time to ally lords view of the world and what the and iszo|time to abolish want. and is it time to abolish these old duffers? in these silly old duffers? in other news, colin pitchfork . other news, colin pitchfork. should in prison? okay should he die in prison? okay this guy, pure evil. if you ask me. why is he up for release again? who is making these decisions ? is the parole board decisions? is the parole board is being asked to reconsider it. i don't really know what there is i mean, he is is to consider. i mean, he is a double child murderer for goodness anyway, i'll be goodness sake. anyway, i'll be talking all of that. and. talking about all of that. and. yes, plan has been yes, well, a novel plan has been put forward to try to improve the quality of our mps. i bang on every day about the fact that i think we're being run by idiots. and i'm yet to be proven wrong about but if we wrong about that. but if we double our pay. okay, but halved the number them , would the number of them, would we end up a better quality of mp? up with a better quality of mp? sajid javid thinks that that might be the solution. so we'll be big debate all about

be having a big debate all about that. be having a big debate all about that . vaiews@gbnews.com loads that. vaiews@gbnews.com loads on. as you've just heard there should be abolish the house of lords . and what do you think lords. and what do you think about the idea of doubling mps pay about the idea of doubling mps pay but crucially halving the number of them? i'll be quite a nice thing, wouldn't it? gb views at gb news. made.com. don't you dare move because it's with your headlines . with your headlines. >> patrick. thank you. good afternoon. the top story today, the prime minister says ukraine needs a long term declaration of support to send a message to vladimir putin that russia's invasion will amount to nothing. rishi sunak has been speaking to mps on the liaison committee today on a range of topics, including the cost of living, pubuc including the cost of living, public services and the environment. he's reiterated his belief ukraine should be granted membership of nato as britain pledges its ongoing support caughtin pledges its ongoing support caught in ukraine's fight

against russia. >> the priority remains, as it always has been , heavy armour, always has been, heavy armour, artillery, long—range weapons and training , most recently and training, most recently combat air, where we will play our part as part of an international coalition to provide side combat capable cities, particularly training of pilots . and we're starting that pilots. and we're starting that this summer. in fact , which is this summer. in fact, which is something that i know the ukrainians have warmly welcomed. and we continue to talk to other countries about increasing their support for ukraine. >> thames water has been fined £3.3 million for polluting two rivers in 20 1718. the company pleaded guilty to discharge ageing millions of litres of undiluted sewage into the gatwick stream in sussex and the river mole in surrey. over the course of 6.5 hours, the incident killed more than 1400 fish, the judge said she also believed thames water had shown

a deliberate attempt to mislead the environment agency over the incident . the company, which incident. the company, which suppues incident. the company, which supplies 15 million households in the south—east with water, faces concerns at the moment overits faces concerns at the moment over its future amid mounting debt , the over its future amid mounting debt, the family of a mother and two children who died in a fire that ripped through a flat in nottingham say their relieved the killer has been brought to justice. it'sjamie the killer has been brought to justice. it's jamie barrow has been found guilty of murdering his neighbour , fatoumata haidara his neighbour, fatoumata haidara and her two young daughters last year the court heard he poured petrol through their letterbox before setting it alight and watching the fire take hold. prosecutors said barrow had a grievance over rubbish being left in an alleyway . the average left in an alleyway. the average rate for a five year fixed rate mortgage deal has now moved above 6. the number of mortgage deals on the market has also

dropped, driving up costs for home buyers and home owners. it comes as the uk's four major banks have been summoned to a meeting with the financial watchdog over allegations of profits smearing with savings rates , lagging behind the cost rates, lagging behind the cost of mortgages by around 4. shadow chief secretary to the treasury pat mcfadden, says families are struggling to meet their costs . struggling to meet their costs. >> it's very concerning and it's like rolling financial thunder this the rates are going up and up, particularly over the past month or so, and every month there's about 200,000 more people coming off a two or a five year fixed rate. it might have been fixed in the past. it's something like 2. and they're now coming to on the kind of rates that you've just quoted. it's going to cost families hundreds of pounds a month when they renew these deals . deals. >> teachers unions are calling on the government to release recommendations on pay made by an independent body . any eu

an independent body. any eu members in england are staging fresh strikes tomorrow. and on friday over their ongoing pay dispute. all four education unions rejected the government's latest offer of £1,000, lump sum and a 4.5% pay rise . israel's and a 4.5% pay rise. israel's police say eight people have been injured, three of them critically following a terrorist attack in the city of tel aviv . attack in the city of tel aviv. they say a palestinian man from the west bank drove into crowds and tried to stab pedestrians before being shot dead by an armed member of the public. the palestine militant group hamas have claimed responsibility, saying it's a natural response to israel's occupied portion of the occupied west bank. ten people, including four teenagers, were killed after a raid by israeli forces in the jenin refugee camp . israel jenin refugee camp. israel police say the ramming incident in tel aviv took place outside a busy shopping centre behind me is a bus stop where a terror attack took place in the

vehicle, rammed his car into civilians in a populated area of tel aviv, managing to injure seven civilians. >> he got out of his vehicle and began trying to stab the civilians that were around him. luckily, there was an individual , a civilian, who was armed, and he managed to neutralise this terrorist meta. >> the company that owns facebook is launching a new app to rival twitter. it's called threads and is described as a text based conversation app that will also be linked to instagram . it appears to closely resemble its main competitor, twitter . its main competitor, twitter. it's the latest chapter in the rivalry between facebook boss mark zuckerberg and elon musk, who bought twitter at the end of last year. twitter recently announced unverified users. in other words, those who don't pay a subscription will be limited to reading 600 posts every day . to reading 600 posts every day. you with gb news more news as it happens. back now to .

happens. back now to. patrick >> well, there's loads of proper news, i suppose , on the agenda news, i suppose, on the agenda this hour, but i just wanted to start with this, so bear with me if that's all right. start with this, so bear with me if that's all right . as regular if that's all right. as regular viewers and listeners to the show will know, i have been trying to raise money for the mental health charity mind. the response has been absolutely astonishing . and as of right astonishing. and as of right now, you wonderful people have donated more than 100,000 thousand pounds. so in the middle of a cost of living crisis that is truly exceptional. and i want to thank you all from the very bottom of my for your generosity my heart for your generosity tonight at midnight, donations will close and we will reveal the final total plus gift aid. tomorrow but as we draw this campaign to a close, i want to be honest with you. all about why this mental health cause means so much to me. i never really looked after my mental

health. i've always taken a kind of crash bang wallop approach to life a bit happy go life and been a bit happy go lucky. least that's what lucky. or at least that's what i thought anyway. like many people, i've had emotional, financial, personal ups and downs, lows , big highs. i've downs, big lows, big highs. i've also lost a very close friend to suicide. a fair few years ago now, and one thing that became obvious to me , reading the obvious to me, reading the comments on the donations page is how many people possibly most people actually have had some experience of suicide or crippling mental health issues . crippling mental health issues. but something happened to me a few years ago that, frankly, i didn't really recover from until relatively recently. i've always put a lot of my self worth into what i do for a living and how well my career is going. i spent my entire 20s working incredibly hard around the clock 24 over seven and incredibly stressful and high pressure roles in order to just try to get somewhere really. and that had a huge impact on my mental wellbeing as well as my relationships. and then when lockdown happened, i lost three jobs in a day . i went lost three jobs in a day. i went through very messy break—up . i

through a very messy break—up. i had leave london and it felt had to leave london and it felt like there were no options available to me and everything i'd was nothing . i'd worked for was for nothing. it also felt like there wasn't a way out, and i felt like a failure and that there was honestly no hope that had a serious impact on my lifestyle choices . and i started to choices. and i started to exhibit the kind of behaviours that many people do when they are looking to block out bad feelings and then things out of the blue one day started to pick up for me. but that all happened very quickly and very unexpectedly and within a few months i'd gone from being unbelievably depressed , just unbelievably depressed, just empty inside, living in my parents spare room to now moving back to london and talking to you lovely people through your television every single day. but ihadnt television every single day. but i hadn't actually got over my issues at all, and i needed help. and this is why mind means so much to me. the charity that i've been trying to raise money for when i needed urgent help, i had a few things at my disposal.

i had the support of a loving, caring family and extended family. i had an incredibly supportive and devoted partner who is now my fiance , and i will who is now my fiance, and i will spend the rest of my life repaying all those people for the love that they showed to me. but crucially, i also had the financial resources to get urgent help . now, without that urgent help. now, without that combination of things, it is no exaggeration to say that i might not be here today and i sit before you very, very comfortable in opening up about this because i am now, thankfully and thankfully completely fine. and frankly , completely fine. and frankly, that actually feels like a different lifetime ago. but i am acutely aware that many people, possibly most people in urgent crisis, do not have those things. if i hadn't have had those things, i possibly wouldn't be here now. and it breaks my heart to think about how many people must have taken their own lives because they couldn't access urgent care or they didn't have family support

, something like that. and this is where mind comes in. my mind can help people who would otherwise have to wait for months on the nhs. it can give emergent advice and care . now emergent advice and care. now money can't solve all the problems in life, but in this specific context, money your money, your donations, the money you have donated will save lives. now, i am going to be very blunt about this. i'm not going to beat around the bush because you have donated anything from . £2 to £2000. anything from. £2 to £2000. fewer people will kill themselves. and i think that's pretty sweet. so thank you. and if people are watching this now and they are struggling and can't see a way out, it might not seem like it right now, but if you stay in the fight, then you have always got a puncher's chance. if you keep buying a ticket, you might just win the lottery. one day the sun will rise tomorrow . things can always rise tomorrow. things can always

get better . people do rise tomorrow. things can always get better. people do love rise tomorrow. things can always get better . people do love you get better. people do love you and you do have something to live for. so stick around because it's nice having you here. just giving.com/fundraising/challenge christie's . okay well that christie's. okay well that appeal ends tonight at midnight justgiving.com/fundraising/challenge christie's and yeah just just keep going and i will have more on my dreamboys experience a little bit later this hour as well but we're moving on from that. now to our top story and this is one that really warms my heart actually. dedicated heart actually. a dedicated helpline launched for helpline has been launched for homeless ex—service homeless veterans. ex—service men and women can be referred to a network of support, including housing providers, charities, local authorities by calling a government funded hotline. well, joining me now is a man who has worked on implementing this for the is lee the last three years is lee bazball , who is the director of bazball, who is the director of operations and group veteran lead at the social housing

provider, the riverside group. great stuff. right? okay so talk to me a bit about this, please, because this is an issue that's very, close to my heart. very, very close to my heart. i think disgrace that we think it's a disgrace that we have homeless veterans. have any homeless veterans. i know not always the easiest know it's not always the easiest thing the world. we're thing in the world. we're certain that some people certain needs that some people might me about might have, but talk to me about this this scheme, this particular this scheme, what's going on. >> we're seeing the main issue why something that's why we need something that's veteran because veteran specific is not because the mainstream homeless sector can't work with can't effectively work with veterans. they can. the issue is generally us veterans and a real reluctance to engage in mainstream services. i've been there myself. personally, i have to say that your piece just a moment ago was really, really powerful. i spent a good 12 years waiting , you know, years waiting, you know, avoiding getting help for my mental health and using the they haven't done what i've done. they've not experienced what i've experience most. they couldn't possibly understand , so couldn't possibly understand, so they wouldn't be able to help me. and it was only by reaching crisis point that had no crisis point that i had no choice but to engage in mainstream services. we don't

want veterans who are experiencing homelessness to reach that absolute rock bottom before they're prepared to accept help , which is why it's accept help, which is why it's so important that we have both veteran specific, supported housing, but then a single point of contact, which is fortitude to make contact with the veteran and link them up with the services that are going to be best placed to help them and that they're going to be comfortable accepting the support from how big is the problem of veterans homelessness ? >> 7- >> that's 7 >> that's exactly a much harder question to answer than it should be. >> we don't have a clear picture in relation. certainly to veteran rough sleeping because not all local authorities ask the veteran question. so in many cases we do not know. within a rough sleeping population in a certain area , how many are certain area, how many are veterans. we do have two firm data points that we can refer to as an indicator. so the first is the national rough sleeping questionnaire that was . 2,026%

questionnaire that was. 2,026% of people responded, said that they were , um, veterans . and in they were, um, veterans. and in london it's around 2. but we need to bear in mind in england and wales, the veteran population is 3.8. and in london it's 1.4. so population is 3.8. and in london it's1.4. so although the numbers are relatively low , numbers are relatively low, veterans are overrepresented in the rough sleeping population . the rough sleeping population. and certainly those two data points and interested in the most recent census data veterans are under—represented in the hostel population, which kind of would suggest that the thought that veterans are reluctant to engagein that veterans are reluctant to engage in mainstream services is right . right. >> yeah. and look , i was under >> yeah. and look, i was under the impression that there was like a military covenant where when people left the armed forces , they should be, if they forces, they should be, if they need it, be given priority, housing, priority, mental health care . you talk a lot on care. you know, we talk a lot on this channel and indeed on this show about that show about the way that i personally think the priorities of have gone quite of this nation have gone quite skewiff at times. and i think that certain people are maybe looked others

looked after more than others and, you know, i think that's quite shoddy, actually, to be honest. but this is this is a £500,000 helpline that is part of a two year, £8.5 million program working towards this pledge to end rough sleeping for veterans and do you think that this is actually achievable? i mean, with respect, you know, when we when we do look at how much money we're spending every single day on certain other hotels, mean, this enough money? >> um, well, it's the amount of money that we ask for based on the information that we have . so the information that we have. so of course i'm going to say yes, i think it is. however op fortitude over the first six months, we're going to be collecting a lot of data and we'll have a much better understanding of what the level of need is. so i think after six months time, we will know what is the demand higher than we thought. importantly is thought. and more importantly is the veteran sector set up currently to be able to respond to the needs as they provide? it

could well be. we simply don't know. we may have more high needs referrals than we have high needs provision . and one of high needs provision. and one of the great things about fortitude as well as, you know, the mission to end veteran rough sleeping, which i absolutely believe we do , is it will believe we can do, is it will give us a much clearer picture of what what the level of demand is. i think it's really important just to clarify that the covenant to make sure the covenant is to make sure that veterans aren't that we are veterans aren't disadvantaged as a result of our service. and i think courage and fortitude, a great example of overcoming that disadvantage specifically about us veterans being really reluctant to engage in mainstream services. >> yeah, yeah. look at absolutely. there's a huge amount of pride and a lot of other things going on there. i think for a lot of veterans aren't there now, this helpline, i believe , is zero . eight, 109 i believe, is zero. eight, 109 52074. i think that's that's right. yeah. good, good . i right. yeah. good, good. i didn't want to put you on the spot with that just in case. if you're anything like me with

numbers and you want to remember it. 809 52074 is that number it. so 809 52074 is that number and so what happens if you're you're a veteran and you ring that number, what happens so you'll get through to a member of the op fortitude team. >> the op fortitude team is actually very small. it's four people. so not a massive team, but you will get through to one of our call handlers and the first thing that we'll do is undertake an assessment of undertake a an assessment of someone's eligibility . so you someone's eligibility. so you have to be applying for assistance as a single person, not families, unfortunately. but that's primarily because the level of duty owed to families by local authorities is much higher than to individuals who are generally, you know, very low priority. they need to be a veteran and they need to be either currently experiencing or at risk of experiencing homelessness. and then we'll undertake an assessment of that person's needs if they are currently housed by at risk of losing their home, then the pathway will direct them towards the myriad of veteran organised

opfions the myriad of veteran organised options that can provide the type of support that can help someone to keep that home, be it financial or legal or physical or mental health. if somebody is currently experiencing homelessness , the first thing homelessness, the first thing that we would do if someone is currently either sleeping in their car or sleeping rough is source short term , temporary source short term, temporary emergency accommodation . whilst emergency accommodation. whilst we go through the process of referring them into the most suitable veteran specific supported housing. >> look fantastic and thank you very, very much for everything that you are doing to help our brave veterans for and standing up for them and trying to get them the accommodation that they need indeed deserve. that is need and indeed deserve. that is lee director lee blair, the director of operation and group veteran lead at provider at the social housing provider the group , that the riverside group, that numbers screen there. numbers on your screen there. leave second. oh 809 leave it up for a second. oh 809 52074. there we go. loads 52074. there we go. now loads more on story on our more on this story on our website news .com. website gb news .com. the fastest news fastest growing national news site country . all the site in the country. all the best analysis, big opinion and breaking and yes, as you breaking news. and yes, as you already no doubt gb news already know, no doubt gb news is campaigning to stop the uk

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straight to gb news .com . straight to gb news .com. >> well, in just a few moments time i will ask whether we should cut the number of mps by half but double their pay . so half but double their pay. so pay half but double their pay. so pay them more . now. fingers pay them more. now. fingers crossed we might get fewer idiots and as rishi sunak celebrates, six months, celebrates, six months, celebrates . since becoming prime celebrates. since becoming prime minister, i will give my verdict on how he's doing with his five priorities. but last month i covered this story of double child killer colin pitchfork after the parole board said that he could be released from prison . but now the government has asked the parole board to reconsider its decision. and i'm not surprised because pitchfork was for life in 1988 for was jailed for life in 1988 for raping strangling 15 raping and strangling 15 year olds. de—man and dawn olds. linda de—man and dawn ashworth in leicestershire . he ashworth in leicestershire. he was released, as many of you

will remember, in september 2021. but was back behind bars two months later for breaching licence conditions of his release. now by the release. i'm joined now by the barrister, chris dore. chris, thank you very, very much. is the government right to intervene here and ask them to reconsider their decision to allow this guy to be released? do you think? >> yeah, i think they are right to do that. just so your viewers understand the process the parole board makes, the original decision. so that's a group of members of the parole who members of the parole board who are completely independent of legal process and of government. but but there are a number of checks and balances in the system, the first of which is for the secretary to for the secretary of state to intervene ask a judge. so intervene to ask a judge. so this is a quite a senior judge this is a quite a seniorjudge usually to look at everything the parole board has done and consider whether they followed their properly , whether their process properly, whether or decision or whether the decision to release pitchfork is, quote unquote, irrational . well, if unquote, irrational. well, if that judge decides that there was an irrational process, then it will go back to the parole board. and i have doubt the

board. and i have no doubt the decision reversed. but decision will be reversed. but there other checks and there are other checks and balances that. so even balances on top of that. so even if process results in an if that process results in an upholding of the decision, the government if they wish or government can if they wish or indeed anyone else take the indeed anyone else can take the and board and take the parole board to a judicial review. then there judicial review. and then there will be a full legal, formal examination of whether this was a correct by a legally correct decision by the think the parole board. so i think it's absolutely when it's absolutely right when you're releasing with you're releasing someone with a history crime and violence of history of crime and violence of this and magnitude, that this gravity and magnitude, that there are many, many steps before someone ever gets back on the streets. before someone ever gets back on the what ts. before someone ever gets back on the what i. before someone ever gets back on the what i thought >> what i thought was interesting because lot of interesting was because a lot of it obviously is about risk to the public going forward. right. and referenced his age in and they referenced his age in the decision. they the original decision. and they i that appeared to play a i mean, that appeared to play a factor. look, unless he's factor. now, look, unless he's got some kind debilitating got some kind of debilitating illness means he's illness that means he's bedndden illness that means he's bedridden something we bedridden or something that we don't and therefore, don't know about. and therefore, obviously, his movements are limited. i just you limited. i just wonder, you know, what be some of the know, what could be some of the mitigating in the first mitigating factors in the first place for, you know, have allowing this guy back out and about again ? about again? >> well, it's not mitigating factors . age is just one of the factors. age is just one of the

factors. age is just one of the factors in the risk assessment. so plainly, as someone gets older, evidence is very older, the evidence is very clear that risk tends to reduce . so the on the whole murders of this kind and rapes of this kind are committed by younger men, men under 50, under 40, and often in their 20s and 30s. so it's just one of the factors. of course it's equally the case that there are older men who commit these crimes, particularly when they have a history of doing in the past. history of doing so in the past. so it's just one factor. but this isn't about mitigating, ian. this is all about risk. as you parole board's you say. and the parole board's only once someone has only task once someone has served sentence, served their minimum sentence, which ago now which he did many years ago now of years, i believe after of 28 years, i believe after that, the only issue is does this person represent an ongoing risk to the public? the parole board currently believes that he does and a judge will now does not and a judge will now decide whether they were right or wrong to come to that conclusion. >> i often get emails in about this whenever talk about the this whenever we talk about the parole people ask me, parole board. people ask me, well, people? well, who are these people? where come from? what's where do they come from? what's their ? and just their background? and just could you enlighten us? >> they're a mixture of,

>> yeah, they're a mixture of, of people with expertise in the criminal justice system, probation system , the legal probation system, the legal system. and there are completely independent members who just have expertise in in some element of criminal justice or pubuc element of criminal justice or public policy. so there are people who are highly intelligent, highly experienced it and who are really quite well trained in terms of risk assessment. and so they're not just sort of random people picked off the street and they are not they are not people who are, as it were, somehow pro criminal or or pro the release of people. they they are from a wide range of backgrounds and, as i say, completely independent of any influence and can make a completely independent decision i >> -- >> am -- >>am| lyman um. >> am i right in thinking that i heard you correctly before where you said so? in this case, the government are asking them to review but anyone can ask review it, but anyone can ask for review, is that for a judicial review, is that correct? correct >> anyone, including the family of this has of victims, and this has happened the past. any any happened in the past. any any member the who wishes member of the public who wishes to the decision of

to challenge the decision of a pubuc to challenge the decision of a public is entitled to bring public body is entitled to bring judicial review proceedings . the judicial review proceedings. the problem is, and you may remember this old adage that justice is open to all. like the ritz hotel. a theoretical hotel. yeah it's a theoretical right, but it's one that is very, very expensive. and therefore, in reality tends only to be available either to the government or to campaign groups or to those who are lucky enough to be able to crowdfund legal resource. because judicial review is very expensive and it shouldn't be, to be frank, your viewers be entitled to viewers should be entitled to fill form online to fill in a form online to challenge these decisions a challenge these decisions in a much expensive way than much less expensive way than currently prevails. >> indeed. let's say it >> now. indeed. and let's say it all goes terribly wrong, right? let's say and hope it let's just say and we hope it doesn't, obviously, let's doesn't, obviously, but let's just something happens. just say something happens. colin out and colin pitchfork comes out and the happens, right? is the worst happens, right? is there of scrutiny then there any kind of scrutiny then of parole board decision ? of that parole board decision? does some does anyone have some accountability to that? well there's scrutiny and accountability are different things, of course, but there is certainly scrutiny whenever someone is released on parole and then commits another serious offence. >> there is an absolutely there

is an investigation into the process that to led their release and whether lessons could be learned. but in terms of accountability, if by that you mean do people get fired and or thrown off the parole board or thrown off the parole board or anything like that, highly improbable. >> look, chris, thank you very much. enlightening stuff. i must say, chris. it's nice not to have a catastrophic row with you as well, to be able to talk about a topic there we go. >> cross, patrick, >> chris cross, patrick, normally people expect normally people might expect to see an mma fight. gb views see us in an mma fight. gb views but that be my next that but that might be my next that might my next charity push, actually. >> chris but there we go. it's chris door there he is indeed. a barrister, well over kilos. barrister, well over 100 kilos. >> patrick i hope. i hope >> patrick so i hope. i hope you're in good oh, well, you're in good shape. oh, well, there we go. >> all right, mate. okay. right let's all still to come between now we'll be getting now and 5:00, we'll be getting stuck whether we stuck into whether or not we should number of mps, should cut the number of mps, but more the ones that but pay more of the ones that that. sorry, pay them more for the ones that we do elect. i should say there's been lot of should say there's been a lot of emails about this gbviews@gbnews.com go gbviews@gbnews.com and i'll go to those shortly. i will go to

those and six on my those and six days on from my performance group performance with the group of male bit male strippers and this bit flipping hack there we go. but there's brownite being back in there's brownite being back in the there's news the theatre, there's big news about drive for about my fundraising drive for the charity. i've the mental health charity. i've got all of coming your way the mental health charity. i've got much, coming your way the mental health charity. i've got much, much,�*ning your way the mental health charity. i've got much, much, much'our way the mental health charity. i've got much, much, much more,3y and much, much, much more, including my verdict as well. on how rishi sunak is doing six months but now polly months in, but now it's polly with the headlines . with the headlines. >> patrick thank you. the top stories this hour. the prime minister says ukraine needs a long term declaration of support to send a message to vladimir putin that russia's invasion will amount to nothing . rishi will amount to nothing. rishi sunak has been questioned today by mps from the liaison committee on a range of topics , committee on a range of topics, including the cost of living pubuc including the cost of living public services and the environment. he's reiterated his belief ukraine should be granted membership of nato as britain pledges its ongoing support in its fight against russia . the its fight against russia. the thames water has been fined £3.3 million for polluting two rivers in 20 1718, the company pleaded

guilty, admitting to discharging millions of litres of undiluted sewage into the gatwick stream in sussex and the river mole in surrey. over the course of 6.5 hours, the incident killed more than 1400 fish. the judge said she also believed thames water had demonstrated a deliberate attempt to mislead the environment agency over the incident. the average rate for a five year fixed mortgage deal has now moved above 6. that's after the uk's four major banks were summoned to a meeting with the financial watchdog over allegations of profiteering . the allegations of profiteering. the fca will question the bosses of hsbc, natwar west, lloyds and barclays over concerns that savings rates are lagging behind the soaring cost of mortgages by around 4. and a new website called threads is going to be unked called threads is going to be linked instagram and is described as being a bit like twitter . a text based twitter. a text based

conversation apps. it appears to closely resemble its competitor as well. it's the latest chapter in the rivalry between facebook boss mark zuckerberg and elon musk. musk who bought twitter in october and twitter recently announced that unverified users, those who don't pay, will be limited to reading 600 posts a day . more on limited to reading 600 posts a day. more on all limited to reading 600 posts a day . more on all those stories . day. more on all those stories. head to our website, gb news. .com . .com. >> well, that's some very interesting comments from former chancellor sajid javid that i'm sure we'll get you all talking. so he thinks that mps don't earn enough. in fact, he thinks that their pay should be doubled . but their pay should be doubled. but before you get too angry, javid also wants the number of mps to be halved. so he says that many talented people don't want to

become mps because the pay isn't enough. become mps because the pay isn't enough . and i've got to be enough. and i've got to be honest with you, i, i think the opfics honest with you, i, i think the optics of increasing mps pay is terrible. in the middle of a cost of living crisis, which is probably why they won't do it massively. but i am convinced as ikeep massively. but i am convinced as i keep saying, that are being i keep saying, that we are being led and if we can led by idiots and if we can attract better people to the job, then maybe paying them more is way that. but he is a way of doing that. but he claims that's partly the reason why we aren't getting better people in government. it people in government. he puts it more than in more sensitively than me. or in other words, we paid mps other words, if we paid mps more, get fewer more, yes, we'd get fewer idiots. conservative idiots. former conservative mp harvey proctor joins me now. harvey, you very much. if harvey, thank you very much. if we mps would we have we paid mps more, would we have fewer idiots we paid mps fewer idiots as we have paid mps more since 1997? >> mps salaries has doubled. i don't think the effectiveness of members of parliament have doubled in the same period . doubled in the same period. >> no, that's incredibly true actually. so is there an amount of money that might stop people

who have got big brains and would be very effective? mps stop them from going and working in the city or setting up their own business, whatever they want to do that would drive them towards parliament. is there an amount of money, do you think ? amount of money, do you think? >> let me go back to when i was first elected in 1979. i took a cut in my salary to do the job of being a member of parliament and it is an honourable position in i. i've considered this very carefully since i heard the absurd remarks by the former cabinet minister. i actually think the reverse probably mps salary should be reduced . but in salary should be reduced. but in any event , in salary should be reduced. but in any event, in any event, let let's say it should be frozen in for the next 5 or 6 years and so

people standing for parliament at the next election in a couple of years time know that the salary that they will receive for the parliament as a whole in each year will be what people get. now now and then at the end of the next parliament, at whatever the salary is at that time , let's have a freeze. then time, let's have a freeze. then and, and let people have that salary for the further parliament. so it's decided at the end of one parliament for those who are elected for the next. so no member of parliament will ever vote for his own salary, only for the salaries of future members of parliament. and they, of course , if they and they, of course, if they stand and get re—elected , may stand and get re—elected, may well take that salary. that would be my view. >> yeah. look, i don't know whether this is just a romantic

nofion whether this is just a romantic notion of the past or roasted tea glasses or whatever, but my take is that we used to have a better quality of politician . better quality of politician. and i think you hit the nail on the head. there maybe it was deemed to be a more honourable job than it is now. maybe there were fewer options available to people. i don't know. but. but but whatever reason, think but for whatever reason, i think that better quality of that we had a better quality of person both in government and in opposition. so how do we fix that? because look, you could lob money at it. i mean, you disagree with it. it's a solution, isn't it? it's a solution, isn't it? it's a solution to go. all right. well, look, here's you know , the close look, here's you know, the close to 300 grand a year. hopefully that's make you want that's enough to make you want to be but but what are to be an mp. but but what are the solutions are there to get people who are the best of british running our country ? british running our country? because everywhere i look now, it's all, you know, everything just right from smart motorways to our transport networks to, you know , whoever's in charge of you know, whoever's in charge of hs2. so what's been going on in

the channel to etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. not etcetera, etcetera. we've not got best in there. well it's got the best in there. well it's all blair's fault . all blair's fault. >> he put a damper on members of parliament having what he calls second jobs. he's now increasingly members of parliament, really go straight from university into research into the house of commons that is wrong. we want members of parliament who are knowledgeable about real life and the difficulties and expense agencies of their constituents . agencies of their constituents. but that's not the case anymore i >> -- >> no, it's lam >> no, it's not. are you also . >> no, it's not. are you also. >>— >> no, it's not. are you also. >> yes , go on. can i also >> yes, go on. can i also criticise the other suggestion by the former cabinet minister, namely that constituencies should be doubled in size ? i should be doubled in size? i think that is wrong too , and i think that is wrong too, and i have personal experience of

this. in 1979, when i was first elected, my constituents number towered over 100,000 and there were then boundary changes and the figure came down to just over 60,000. and i'm sure that when i was representing over 100,000, i was not doing quite as an effective job as i did when i was representing 60,000. so please don't get at constituents . constituents want constituents. constituents want members of parliament who work for them and who they know. so please do not increase the size of constituencies. also remember, we are no longer in the eu, so parliament should be deaung the eu, so parliament should be dealing with more things than they have done. that's true. 30 or 40 years. >> that is very, very true. always a chap who speaks rather a lot of sense. harvey absolute pleasure. thank you very much.

as a former conservative mp harvey proctor, there joining me now, look , you know, i now, look, you know, maybe i thought had it there. thought sarge had it there. i thought sarge had it there. i thought this is solution to thought this is the solution to stop being run by idiotic stop us being run by idiotic people. but no, alas , we're people. but no, alas, we're going to have to come up with something else anyway. it's exactly six months since rishi sunak prime minister. but sunak became prime minister. but has made things or has he made things better or worse? i'm going to be having a look and i'm also going look at that and i'm also going to a look at what the to be having a look at what the house lords done when it house of lords has done when it comes our illegal migration comes to our illegal migration bill. there is now bill. i'm convinced there is now as a gap between will of as big a gap between the will of the and i'm including the people and i'm including brexit in this actually a bigger gap between the will of the people house lords people and the house of lords than there has be. than there than there has be. i think it's absolutely. so they've ripped the teeth out of this bill and this illegal migration bill and frankly, things frankly, they are making things even worse. they want to take more, not less. anyway, patrick christys on news, christys here on gb news, britain's news .

android or head straight to gb news .com . news .com. >> welcome back. now at 5:00 i will discuss the news that around 8000 afghan individuals and families could be made homeless. this summer. and i will ask guests is our country full? and i think this is a lesson for people like the archbishop of canterbury and like all of these worthy loves, we should throw arms around we should throw our arms around the okay, we can do the world. well, okay, we can do that. but are we making the problem because we go, oh, problem worse because we go, oh, come on then. yeah, come on, we'll look after you for a bit. and go, well, we haven't and then we go, well, we haven't got you to live. so

got anywhere for you to live. so now on street. well, now you're on the street. well, thank couldn't we have just thank you. couldn't we have just given them to germany or to france or to spain or to portugal to of these portugal or to some of these places welcome in. places now? well, welcome in. yeah, in. right, yeah, come on in. all right, i'll who's got i'll tell you who's got a massive gaff they could live in. the archbishop canterbury, the archbishop of canterbury, but that but you won't see that happening, will you? there we go. yeah, i'm going to be go. so, yeah, i'm going to be talking that now. talking all about that now. i believe this is something i'm supposed be in a in a supposed to be reading in a in a certain , a certain accent. is certain, a certain accent. is that ? and listen very that right? and listen very carefully . i will say this only carefully. i will say this only once. yes. the classic tv programme. allo, allo could explain why we voted for brexit. a new book. say shows like that. like fawlty towers, dad's army show our attitude to our friends on the continent and why we like to stand on our own. so here is a little reminder of the special anglo—french relationship that was evident on allo allo . was evident on allo allo. >> good morning . good morning .

>> good morning. good morning. outside the front of your coffee under the lamp post are a . under the lamp post are a. couple of. >> well, joining me now to discuss this is senior fellow at the new culture forum and lecturer of cultural history. it is dr. philip caselli. dr. philip, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. so just explain me then. so so just explain to me then. so because basically had shows because we basically had shows like dad's fawlty towers, like dad's army, fawlty towers, allo us vote for allo allo, that made us vote for brexit. did it? >> well, first of all, patrick, it's lovely to speak to you again. um, that's a new one on me. actually, i can't really see the connection. um it's, you know, it's a it's a classic academic take, isn't it? you know, let's take something that's completely unrelated and let's. and let's relate it to something that we don't like . i something that we don't like. i think if you go back to the 70s and you think about the 70s in a slightly more serious way , then slightly more serious way, then there is something there. we joined the eec in 1973. there was a referendum in 1975. we

decided to stay and the 70s was, you know , a decade of violence. you know, a decade of violence. it was characterised by strife, industrial action, austerity , industrial action, austerity, motty, a sense of things falling apart . uh, there was a socialist apart. uh, there was a socialist experiment and the winter of discontent . so i think all of discontent. so i think all of those things , the fawlty towers those things, the fawlty towers stuff , the, the, the sense of stuff, the, the, the sense of britain in looking back as well and thinking about or thinking about the war because this is the end of the post—war era . the end of the post—war era. there's a sense that we want to reassert ourselves as english, as british, as independent and i think we do that. and the figure that really symbolises that , of that really symbolises that, of course, is margaret thatcher. so i think i think there is something there . but i think i something there. but i think i think hanging it on ella whelan is frankly absurd. yeah no, no, it is . it absolutely is. >> but i've got to be honest, i think that the study here kind of misses the point a little bit. i think you identified some

key things there where there was a sense of britain wanting to reassert itself . i think there's reassert itself. i think there's also a sense of something that we in my view, lost, and we have, in my view, lost, and this sound controversial, this might sound controversial, but i think europe does owe us rather a lot, actually. and i think people forget that all too quickly. it would be quite nice, wouldn't it, to maybe just imagine for a second what kind of state the european union and the european continent would have if wasn't for have been in if it wasn't for britain? also, when we look britain? and also, when we look at in ukraine at what's happening in ukraine as mean, as well recently, i mean, i think germany spent about 10,000 rainbow coloured helmets to the ukrainians decided we ukrainians and we decided we were and were actually going to try and help initially. and help them out initially. and i just whether or not it's just wonder whether or not it's actually brexit was more about the idea of britain going, well, you we've your you know what, we've saved your lives and you don't appear to like us very much. so have that as opposed to it was about someone dodgy french someone with a dodgy french accent lower low, or basil accent in a lower low, or basil fawlty saying, don't mention the war. >> yeah, i think you're absolutely right. and you only have to look at what happened. you know , let's forget you know, let's forget a

situation comedies from from the 70s and 80s. let's look at what happened with the remain lobby on the with the years leading up to 2016 and there was a sense of a real self—loathing , a hatred a real self—loathing, a hatred of britishness and i think brexit and i think all of us who voted for brexit and all of us who wanted to kind of reassert ourselves or at least want the keys to our own front door . so keys to our own front door. so let's say, okay, we were pushing back against that and we were and we were saying, look, not only is it okay to be british, but by god , look what we've but by god, look what we've done. and you know what? that's really important. >> no. 100. and dr. philip, those people who are still clamouring for a second referendum and saying, look, the pubuc referendum and saying, look, the public opinion is turning on brexit, would a brexit, i would make a prediction. i would wage prediction. i would happily wage £50 on it right now that if there was a referendum tomorrow, we a harder i we would end up with a harder i would argue, proper brexit would argue, more proper brexit than we'd had than the one we'd had not returning the european returning to the european union, because would be an because i think that would be an opportunity people

opportunity for people to actually that. the reason actually say that. the reason why they don't like brexit is not they didn't like the not because they didn't like the idea brexit. because idea of brexit. it's because they feel like they they didn't feel like they got enough it. dr. philip, enough of it. but dr. philip, thank much. dr. philip thank you very much. dr. philip kwasi is senior kwasi there, who is the senior fellow at the new culture forum and lecturer of cultural history. going have history. i'm just going to have a to you now about a couple a chat to you now about a couple of things that are going on in the world politics, because the world of politics, because rishi is today celebrating rishi sunak is today celebrating six minister. rishi sunak is today celebrating six he minister. rishi sunak is today celebrating six he came minister. rishi sunak is today celebrating six he came and minister. rishi sunak is today celebrating six he came and saidinister. rishi sunak is today celebrating six he came and said he ter. rishi sunak is today celebrating six he came and said he suella now he came and said he suella didn't for his big five didn't see for his big five pledges. this. pledges. how fascinating this. i think a bit of a thing think there was a bit of a thing at the time of wanting to give rishi chance. you ask me, rishi a chance. if you ask me, rishi a chance. if you ask me, rishi sunak will always suffer massively virtue the fact massively by virtue of the fact that been elected. and that he's not been elected. and then the conservative lviv membership him membership didn't elect him anyway. they had liz truss. i think he's also struggling and always will struggle this always will struggle with this idea some way the idea that he in some way the perception him stabbing boris perception of him stabbing boris johnson back. also johnson in the back. i do also think there a touch of think that there is a touch of the public school head boy about him, possibly because he him, quite possibly because he was one and i can't help but wonder whether or not rishi sunak very conveniently sunak is just very conveniently using prime using the office of prime minister as a stepping stone for

something else later down the line. but if we have a look at some of the five pledges here, you know, inflation, okay, growing the economy, national debt falling, well, a lot of those things are let's be honest with difficult the nhs with you, difficult the nhs waiting well. waiting lists as well. very, very i mean, it's all very difficult. i mean, it's all difficult, lot of those difficult, but a lot of those things affected things things are affected by things that genuinely could be considered out of rishi sunak control. and he has got an excuse to hide behind when it comes to all of these things. mishandling by bank of mishandling by the bank of england, the war in england, for example, the war in ukraine, all of this stuff, global things. but the big thing that his control and that is within his control and it is within his control, if he has the bottle is illegal migration and it is unforgivable. it is completely unforgivable. it is completely unforgivable that rishi sunak has presided over a period of time where we still continue to have record arrivals, where we have record arrivals, where we have record arrivals, where we have record taxpayer expenditure. if this man really understood, really understood how vital it was for him to get that done, i think we will be seeing him doing things like swerving the echr. et cetera.

but here's another one, though. okay, of lords, okay, so the house of lords, that was big one, that bunch that was a big one, that bunch of them earlier on, of as i call them earlier on, silly old duffers who i think are so far removed from the will of people that it's of the people that it's unbelievable moment unbelievable at the moment decided make 11 slap downs decided to make 11 slap downs of the migration the illegal migration bill. those making easier those included making it easier for people to claim to be children then stay the children and then stay in the united kingdom, making it easier to legal them to put legal blocks on them being making easier being deported, making it easier for to come for people essentially to come over stay as well. over here and stay here as well. i rishi sunak wants to i think if rishi sunak wants to get elected in the next election, going to be election, i'm going to be talking about this a little bit later on well. he could do later on as well. he could do two things. could two two things. he could put two referendums to british referendums to the british public. the public. one would be on the echr and would on abolishing and one would be on abolishing the house of lords. and if he said, look, i've missed my targets on absolutely everything said, look, i've missed my targewhen absolutely everything said, look, i've missed my targewhen absoluteito everything else when it comes to the economy, when it comes to inflation, when it comes to nhs waiting but you vote waiting times. but if you vote conservative, get conservative, you will get a vote these two things we vote on these two things and we will immediately enact the result i think he result of that vote. i think he might but there we go. might win, but there we go. vaiews@gbnews.com. on vaiews@gbnews.com. more on those very, very shortly. but yes, reminder, those very, very shortly. but yes, is reminder, those very, very shortly. but yes, is your reminder, those very, very shortly. but

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all goes to mind. the mental health charity provides health charity that provides urgent, critical care urgent, you know, critical care for who right the for people who are right on the bnnk for people who are right on the brink just giving.com/fundraising/challenge christie's. let tell you christie's. but let me tell you what to be talking what i'm going to be talking about i come back, because about when i come back, because this is an absolutely this i think, is an absolutely fascinating around fascinating story. around 8000 afghans after the afghans who came here after the taliban took their country taliban took over their country could homeless next month. could be homeless next month. well, happen? well well, how can this happen? well i'll how it happen, i'll tell you how it can happen, because actually too because we're actually being too kind. all right. kind. we decide. all right. well, just let absolutely well, let's just let absolutely everybody illegally or everybody in illegally or legally. help you. we are legally. we'll help you. we are britain. we are the land of milk and honey, and we're not. and so we end up in a situation like people here who are for all intents purposes, actually intents and purposes, actually genuine seekers and genuine asylum seekers and refugees we now oh, i'm refugees who we now go, oh, i'm sorry, you're going to be homeless next month. i mean, where these idiots who occupy where do these idiots who occupy places like the house of lords think that we put people and who's them? it's just who's paying for them? it's just madness. gonna have madness. we're gonna have to build whole new houses build a whole load of new houses anyway. christys and gb anyway. patrick christys and gb news news .

channel it's 5 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. have we been too kind to asylum seekers? as it turns out that thousands of afghans are now going to be made homeless? i'm asking the question why on earth did we agree to accept so many of them in in the first place? should we have been crueller or to be kinder in other news, yes. we're

also going to be talking about this. there are serious allegations that keir starmer lied about sue gray and i wonder why this is not being picked up by other media outlets . so we're by other media outlets. so we're going to be talking as well. a lot about ulez daylight robbery in my view. absolute daylight robbery. it is in the high court today. it will be tomorrow as well. you watch and well. but you should watch and listen to this very, very closely because mark my words, ulez coming to a town or ulez is coming to a town or a city near you and it will only get get worse. and we're going to be talking about trans banks. that's right . more than to be talking about trans banks. that's right. more than half of high street banks have signed up to stonewall's lgbtq+ charter. oh, that might sound okay, but what about the idea that if you decide to tweet something that is gender critical, i.e. that women are women and men are men, you now could contravene a bank's ethics and values and could they close your account down? finally, yes. dreamboys the final curtain. we are closing the donations page for

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topics today, including the cost of living, public services and the environment , of living, public services and the environment, and he's reiterated his belief ukraine should be granted membership of nato as britain pledges its ongoing support in ukraine's fight against russia , the fight against russia, the priority remains as it always has been, heavy armour , has been, heavy armour, artillery, long—range weapons and training, most recently combat air, where we will play our part as part of an international coalition to provide combat capabilities , provide combat capabilities, particularly training of pilots i >> -- >> and we're starting that this summer , in fact, which is summer, in fact, which is something that i know the ukrainians have warmly welcomed . and we continue to talk to other countries about about increasing their support for ukraine in, well, rishi sunak is still talking to the liaison committee at the moment. >> within the last few moments, he's told them the government will vigorously challenge a court ruling. week which court ruling. last week which found that the uk government's plan to send illegal migrants to rwanda lawful . we'll bring

rwanda was lawful. we'll bring you more on those developments as they develop this afternoon . as they develop this afternoon. now in other news, thames water has been fined £3.3 million for polluting two rivers in 2017. the company pleaded guilty to discharging millions of litres of undiluted sewage into the gatwick stream in sussex and the river mole in surrey. over the course of 6.5 hours. the incident killed more than 1400 fish, the judge said she believed thames water had also shown a deliberate attempt to mislead the environment agency over the incident. the company , over the incident. the company, which supplies 15 million households in the south—east of the uk, faces concerns at the moment over its future amid mounting debts . the moment over its future amid mounting debts. the family of a mother and two children who died in a fire that ripped through their flat in nottingham say they're relieved the killer has been brought to justice. jamie barrow has been found guilty of murdering his neighbour for mata

haidara and her two young daughters last year the court heard he poured petrol through their letterbox before setting it alight and watching the fire take hold. prosecco shooters said barrow had a grievance over rubbish being left in an alleyway . the average price for alleyway. the average price for alleyway. the average price for a five year fixed rate mortgage has now moved to 6. rate wise, the number of mortgage deals on the number of mortgage deals on the market is also drop. that's driving up costs for home buyers and home owners. and that comes as the uk's four major banks have been summoned to a meeting with the financial watchdog over allegations of profiteering thing. with savings rates lagging behind the cost of mortgages by around 4, shadow chief secretary to the treasury pat mcfadden, says families are struggling . struggling. >> it's very concerning and it's like rolling financial thunder. this the rates are going up and up, particularly over the past month or so, and every month

there's about 200,000 more people coming off a two or a five year fixed rate. it might have been fixed in the past. it's something like 2% and are now coming on to the kind of rates that you've just quoted. it's going to cost families hundreds of pounds a month when they renew these deals . they renew these deals. >> teachers unions are calling on the government to release recommendations on pay made by an independent body. any new members in england are staging fresh strikes tomorrow and on friday over their ongoing dispute in pay all for education. unions rejected the government's latest offer of £1,000, lump sum and a 4.5% pay rise . let's just bring you some rise. let's just bring you some breaking news on the subject of strikes. junior doctors have voted within the last few moments to extend strike action until at least january 2024. members of the hospital

consultants and specialists association in england voted on tuesday to extend strike action by another six months, with 96.5% of those voting in favour , the re ballot result comes as junior doctors prepare to mount a walkout for five days from july 13th. more on that story as we get it . let's turn our we get it. let's turn our attentions now to israel, where police say eight people have been injured, three of them critically following a terrorist attack in the city of tel aviv. they say a palestinian man from the west bank drove into crowds and tried to stab pedestrians before being shot dead by an armed member of the public. the palestinian militant group hamas have claimed responsibility , have claimed responsibility, saying it's a natural response to israel's occupation of the occupied west bank. ten people, including four teenagers, were killed after a raid by israeli forces in the jenin refugee camp . israeli police say the ramming incident in tel aviv took place

outside a busy shopping centre . outside a busy shopping centre. >> behind me is a bus stop where a terror attack took place . a terror attack took place. individual rammed his car into civilians in a populated area of tel aviv, managing to injure seven civilians. he got out of his vehicle and began trying to stab the civilians that were around him. luckily, there was an individual, a civilian, who was armed, and he managed to neutralise this terrorist technology news and meta, the company that owns facebook , is company that owns facebook, is launching a new app to rival twitter. >> it's called threat ads and is described as a text based conversation app . it's also conversation app. it's also going to be linked, we understand, instagram. it appears as well to closely resemble its main competitor, twitter and it's the latest chapter in the rivalry between facebook boss mark zuckerberg and elon musk , who bought and elon musk, who bought twitter at the end of last year. twitter at the end of last year. twitter recently announced unveiled, defied users, those without a subscription will be limited to reading just 600 posts a day . you're with gb

posts a day. you're with gb news. more news as we have it. now back to . now back to. patrick right ? right? >> well, in a couple of minutes, i will talk about the 8000 afghan refugees who could be homeless next month. i find this deeply concerning on numerous different fronts, not least, why on earth did we let people in if we knew we couldn't look after them ? is this really what the them? is this really what the price being kind is like? and price of being kind is like? and also, some kind of also, is there not some kind of maybe public safety? maybe risk to public safety? we've allowed people into a country, told them what we're going to look after them, turfed them out onto streets. they them out onto the streets. they have a country that is have come from a country that is obviously the obviously now run by the taliban. can anyone else see why we have certain we might have certain issues there? that the there? i am sure that the archbishop canterbury is archbishop of canterbury is very, very happy about all of that. but first to a new interview with rishi sunak. and firstly, was asked why he was firstly, he was asked why he was attending a tea party event to

mark 75 cookery. let's play it . mark 75 cookery. let's play it. >> the fifth anniversary of the nhs. so why are you here today for this tea party? >> well, after i became prime minister, i set out five priorities. one of them is to support the nhs and cut waiting lists, which is why we've been invested. record sums gives us. but also want to make the but i also want to make the decisions right for the decisions that are right for the long last week long term. that's why last week we a long workforce we announced a long workforce plan, means we'll have a plan, which means we'll have a record number record expansion in the number of doctors and nurses that we train in the uk. also reform how they work so that we can have an nhs that's not doing what we need today, but also need just today, but also for years and decades into the future. demonstration of future. it's demonstration of my commitment it's commitment to the nhs. it's great to be here at the hospital in london thanking the staff for the incredible job they do and letting that we're letting them know that we're backing letting them know that we're bachu say you're committed to >> you say you're committed to the nhs, but we know junior doctors consultants are going to be strike in a matter be going on strike in a matter of weeks. you're of weeks. so you're realistically going hit realistically not going to hit that target, you, reduce that target, are you, to reduce nhs waiting lists? >> well, first of all, i'm

really pleased that the nhs staff and half a staff council and the half a dozen in it actually dozen unions in it actually voted the government's voted to accept the government's pay voted to accept the government's pay offer. >> i think they recognised that it and reasonable in it was fair and reasonable in the circumstances and rewarded them for the hard work that they do. i'm really grateful to them for that and i want to make sure that i say that loud and clear as part of the reason i'm here at the evelina hospital to say that in person. now that to them in person. now clearly, industrial action by other staff make other clinical staff does make it challenging to bring it more challenging to bring down waiting lists. we've already had half million already had half a million people's care be impacted by industrial people's care be impacted by industhat's right. i think think that's right. i think everyone can see the economic context that we're in and the necessity government necessity for the government to make decisions in make responsible decisions in that context to bring down inflation and be responsible with our borrowing and no one can our commitment to the can doubt our commitment to the nhs. invested and a nhs. record sums invested and a long workforce plan. last long term workforce plan. last week, first in the week, for the first time in the nhs history. but of course we need lots of need to balance lots of different things and do the right for the term right things for the long term and country. that's what and the country. and that's what we're to do on mortgages. we're going to do on mortgages. >> promise to you keep telling

people hold their to people to hold their nerve to hang do you not hang on in there. do you not think people might that think people might find that slightly galling you're slightly galling when you're telling potentially telling them to potentially extend their loan extend the length of their loan when moment they have when at the moment they have nowhere cut their nowhere else they can cut their budget ? instance, do you budget? for instance, do you really get it? a lot of people would accuse you of really not understanding their plight. >> but of course, i know it's challenging time for people with mortgages interest rates are mortgages as interest rates are going difficult. it is going up and difficult. it is the best most important the best and most important thing country is that we thing for the country is that we bnng thing for the country is that we bring inflation because bring inflation down because ultimately inflation ultimately it's inflation that is making everyone poorer and interest rates are a part of how we that. but there is support we do that. but there is support available people with available for people with mortgages, to extend mortgages, the ability to extend your mortgage term or switch to an interest only mortgage. you can talk to your bank about those options without any those options as without any impact your rating. impact on your credit rating. both things just both of those things i've just mentioned ability to mentioned have the ability to save family, potentially save a family, potentially hundreds of pounds a month on their mortgage payment . in their mortgage payment. in addition, are the addition, for those who are the most vulnerable, the most vulnerable, we have the support for mortgage interest scheme. will help scheme. again, that will help people know people get through what i know is challenging time . that's

is a challenging time. that's why government has all why the government has put all these to help these measures in place to help a&e right. >> then i think i'll just crack on with the show. i actually had planned the ongoing farce of our asylum system has been laid bare once again, this at the once again, this time at the local government association conference has warned conference at the lga has warned that thousands afghan asylum that thousands of afghan asylum seekers up homeless seekers could end up homeless when moved out of when they are moved out of hotels accommodation at end hotels accommodation at the end of so to 8000 of next month. so to 8000 afghans, whom came to afghans, many of whom came to the uk after the taliban took over 2021. they're over kabul in 2021. they're currently housed at 59 what are called bridging hotels across the . they have to be the country. they have to be moved out soon. but the lga warns that there aren't homes for to move to , which i for them to move to, which i mean, let's be honest, stevie wonder could have seen coming, couldn't now couldn't they? joining me now to discuss further property discuss this further is property expert political commentator expert and political commentator russell you russell quirk. russell thank you very look , i feel very much. now, look, i feel i do feel very sorry for the people who genuinely fled the taliban, who came over here. and we basically said, look, come on, god, just come on, come on over here. we'll look after you. and then now they're going to be

homeless. but is this not just a indictment, the fact that britain is full? >> first of all, patrick, great to see you with your clothes on. hello um, and to the to the point in question, look, we have a responsibility to a number of afghan migrants on the basis that we encourage them along with the americans after we invaded their country, rightly or wrongly, many say wrongly, we encouraged them to help and support and abet the allied forces in their own country . and forces in their own country. and of course, then putting them and their families lives in danger. so i think it's only right fair and proper that we do look after them. and frankly, i'm quite surprised there's only 8000. i think the injustice here, though, is the fact that that that body of people, you know, afghans in particular, having been promised a kind of security and housing and now at risk from homelessness, but not, i think because that was particularly irresponsible. i think that was the right thing. clearly, the right thing. but clearly, because goodness knows

because we've got goodness knows how many i mean, 2000 a week at the last count, albane indians, indians and so on, people who actually we owe nothing to, frankly, in terms of us having invaded them because we haven't allowing those people to come over here. willy nilly with no id as economic immigrants. and now , of course, we're now, of course, we're effectively in a position , effectively in a position, patrick, where we're housing those people instead of afghans that we owe a debt of service. well, i am genuinely very, very worried about the idea that we've got 8000 afghans who we've ianed we've got 8000 afghans who we've invited over. >> and as you said , you know, >> and as you said, you know, initially. right, fair enough . initially. right, fair enough. who it looks as though we are about to turf out onto the streets . well, i'm sorry, but streets. well, i'm sorry, but that that in itself poses a monumental risk, i think, to people who might be quite wound up about all of that . it so i'm up about all of that. it so i'm concerned about the health and safety side of that for the british public there. anyway, i think this is a by—product. this

is the natural reality of the ridiculous kind of hashtag. refugees welcome policies that we've had, which is that we go we've had, which is that we go we have a duty to throw our arms around the world. well, all right. but unfortunately, the world live here. and now world can't live here. and now there's 8000 afghans who are going to on streets, going to be out on the streets, plus of plus however many tens of thousands in the next few thousands arrive in the next few months across the channel. we're just become a nation just going to become a nation of homeless aren't we? homeless refugees, aren't we? >> yeah. and this ridiculous nofion >> yeah. and this ridiculous notion on the left that, of course, that all refugees are welcome. from an welcome. i mean, from an economic perspective and a social perspective that is completely and utterly unsustainable. it's a lovely unsustainable. so it's a lovely piece of fluffy ideology to say, hey, everyone's welcome . but of hey, everyone's welcome. but of course, i don't think we can quite a capacity wise for quite a cater capacity wise for the entirety of afghanistan and syria. albania of course, which is not a war torn country. so the problem here is twofold. first of all, the fact that in effect, despite this being a so—called conservative government door government we have an open door policy someone to rock policy. if someone wants to rock up a dinghy with no passport up on a dinghy with no passport

as 25 year old, know, as a 25 year old, you know, potential criminal, and they're the seem to be taking the ones that seem to be taking preference in terms of them being effectively, indirectly ianed being effectively, indirectly invited the other invited here. and the other problem, of course, patrick, is we've well rehearsed, you and i, is the fact that actually we is the fact that actually if we built enough homes maybe built enough homes, maybe this wouldn't so much of wouldn't be quite so much of a problem. but then i also argue, and i we talked about this and i think we talked about this previously, that the first people that be getting people that should be getting homes people. homes are british people. exactly. know, the that exactly. you know, the fact that they've lived here all they've they've lived here all their lives and they've paid into the system. i was looking at now, and this at some stats just now, and this is horrifying of is pretty horrifying because of the the economy is the way that the economy is and potentially the potentially how fragile the housing of the housing market is. most of the top ten builders that supply about of new housebuilding about 70% of new housebuilding in have basically all but in the uk have basically all but stopped building the amount of starts that were not not started in effect in terms of new construction in britain. those starts have dropped 27% in the last few months. on a year on year basis. so what we're about to see if we think we've got a big problem now. well, this is

demanding and supply stops . demanding and supply stops. we're going to have an even bigger problem in a year or so. >> we're going to an even bigger problem. but it is almost like we have decided to implement the absolute both worlds. absolute worst of both worlds. as understand it right now, as i understand it right now, our ridiculous policy it our ridiculous policy when it comes to illegal immigration and asylum and refugees has catastrophic impacts on the indigenous british population and actually has catastrophic impacts on the genuine refugees that we've invited over here. and the only people who appear to be benefiting at the moment are the people who have arrived here illegally or those children with full beards in schools. yeah and of course serco and all the private contractors g—4s , the private contractors g—4s, whoever they are who are making a lot of money from processing migrants, from doing deals with hotel owners and b&bs across the country on five year terms. >> still now to house such people. so yeah, there are as

even people. so yeah, there are as ever, there are a lot of people making a lot of money out of this. yeah and you know, the fact that this so—called conservative government, you know, rishi sunak i saw before i came on, i mean, the rishi robot , came on, i mean, the rishi robot i , came on, i mean, the rishi robot , i think he should be called. i mean, the fact that the man can't even answer one of your questions your questions or any of your questions or any of your questions mean, talk about questions is, i mean, talk about doing a gross disservice to the role the office of prime role and the office of prime minister. very, minister. and it's very, very scary that him. jeremy scary that under him. jeremy hunt others, we've hunt and others, we've effectively it comes to effectively got when it comes to immigration day immigration and housing, a day to or rather no to day policy or rather no policy at all. so is policy at all. so there is really no planning, no strategy. the way they're trying to tackle this to allow the this is just to allow the problem to continue and hope that way of some pathetic that by way of some pathetic sticking plaster type politics by throwing money at it further , that that's going to solve the problem. this is this is a time bomb waiting to explode in social, economic and housing terms . absolutely. terms. absolutely. >> look, thank you very, very much , russell aslef, russell much, russell aslef, russell quirk, there is property housing expert reacting to that expert just reacting to that news that remarkably we're going to 8000 to end up with about 8000 afghans streets of

afghans on the streets of britain, course, britain, which, of course, will lead no issues lead to absolutely no issues whatsoever. right as whatsoever. and he's right as well, isn't he? about rishi sunak there? we played a clip earlier of the earlier on. it's one of the reasons i didn't want to reasons why i didn't want to take it. if i wanted watch take it. if i wanted to watch a robotic dullard no robotic dullard with no personality, answering any personality, not answering any questions, turn on questions, and i'd just turn on the bbc. but now, who would have thought the thought it sir keir starmer the man who famously said in the middle of the partygate saga, man who famously said in the midhonestlye partygate saga, man who famously said in the midhonestlye peintegrityaga, the honestly un integrity matter. he's matter. well, it's today. he's been accused the been accused of lying. the labour leader said in march that there was nothing improper in his gray his dealings with sue gray before her senior civil before she quit her senior civil service job to become starmer's chief but a cabinet chief of staff. but a cabinet office investigation now office investigation has now found grey broke civil found that grey broke civil service as a result of the service rules as a result of the undeclared between her undeclared contact between her and the labour party. i'm joined now by political editor of the express online. there he is, david maddox . good stuff, david. david maddox. good stuff, david. right. okay. is keir starmer lied? >> hi, patrick. >> hi, patrick. >> well, it looks like it, although , you know, he's although, you know, he's a lawyer, so he could probably get through on a technicality, but he personally may not have done

something improper and sue gray did. but you know, he's he seems to be the master of getting away with stuff . with stuff. >> okay. all right. i mean, that takes two to tango, doesn't it? and when it says that there was undeclared contact with sue gray is one of the parties who did not declare the contact and the other one is the labour party, isn't it? and that is fronted, of course, by keir starmer. >> yeah, absolutely. and frankly, most people would think that he's lied and i think the telegraph report in this case is , is probably bang on. but you know, my, my point is that this is a man who remarkably gets away with everything . he can away with everything. he can have a beer and curry party in durham that is far more than having a, you know, a slice of birthday cake in downing street and somehow not get fined and not be branded a criminal. he for can more than a year not declare serious financial interests on his register of interests on his register of interests as an mp, which you're supposed to do . and somehow it

supposed to do. and somehow it doesn't get reported to the standards committee. and yet andrew bridgen, who , you know, andrew bridgen, who, you know, forgot to put it on an email, gets eight days suspension or five days suspension or whatever it was. you know, keir starmer, you know, he can lie about sue gray, but you know, will he appear before the privileges committee somehow i doubt it. somehow you know. >> no, but. but. but what is it? let's drill down into that, david, because is there an ability for people to get away with stuff if they are on the left ? left? >> i'm about a year ago would have i would have laughed at you if you'd said that. but i'm beginning to suspect that there may well be actually and you know, those examples of starmer , you know, and it's not just him. there's a whole series of issues which come up and somehow, you know, it's boris or the brexiteer or, you know, we're going to have on monday, we're going to have on monday, we're going to have on monday, we're going to have some bricks here, conservative mps who , you

here, conservative mps who, you know, have your dusty to support boris, who are going to get red demanded by parliament for doing that. demanded by parliament for doing that . and yet people on the left that. and yet people on the left somehow swan through and nothing seems to happen to them. i mean it's like you know, when conservative mps are caught up in sexual scandals, it seems to be all over the place and yet when labour mps are then we hear very little about it . very little about it. >> yes, no, exactly . although of >> yes, no, exactly. although of course the exception being keith vaz but i think that was just because it was utterly hilarious. thank you very, very much. >> that was very tacular . >> that was very tacular. >> that was very tacular. >> yeah, yeah, that was the poster. is this. anyway, we don't need to spent conviction. right. look, thank you very much. david maddox. of much. this david maddox. of course, the political editor course, is the political editor of express online . fine. thank of express online. fine. thank you very much. now okay, so why have so many high street banks signed up to a diversity scheme run by discredited charity? so stonewall. and what does this mean for you being at risk of having your accounts closed? if

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gbnews.com. i'm ihave gbnews.com. i'm i have got some breaking news for you. >> yes. and we're back to lockdown parties . but this is lockdown parties. but this is interesting. the police is reopening one investigation, opening a new one into previously unknown party, but not investigated , eating

not investigated, eating a series of others. here's to explain. all of this is our very own catherine forster. catherine, thank you very much. what's going on then ? what's going on then? >> okay, so the new investigation is into an alleged birthday. drinks party on 8th of december 2020, when we were in lockdown , that bernard jenkin , lockdown, that bernard jenkin, conservative mp and member of the privileges committee that recently made the report on bofis recently made the report on boris johnson , finding that he'd boris johnson, finding that he'd misled parliament and allegedly attended, it was his wife's dnnks attended, it was his wife's drinks party and that news came out in the last few weeks , as he out in the last few weeks, as he has said nothing really. so the police have decided to open investigation into that. >> so the police, just to clarify why the police are now investigating , bernard clarify why the police are now investigating, bernard jenkin of the privileges committee, who was is grilling boris and

actually earlier today grilling rishi sunak as well. correct? right. interesting >> correct. >> correct. >> and then they are reopening a previous investigation in which was, you'll remember , there was was, you'll remember, there was a picture of like two dozen people , shaun bailey, who was people, shaun bailey, who was then running for conservative mayor of london. this was 14th december 2020. that was previous investigated. but a few weeks ago , a video emerged, didn't it, ago, a video emerged, didn't it, of people dancing, of people saying, are you filming this? and said, oh, well, as long as we don't stream it and, you know, let on that we're bending the rules. people were dancing. they nearly knocked over the table, covered in food . and that table, covered in food. and that is being re—investigated now , is being re—investigated now, bearin is being re—investigated now, bear in mind that shaun bailey is saying, yes, i was there briefly. he was there in the photograph. yeah, but he left. he's got a peerage from boris johnson , another guy who is in johnson, another guy who is in the video called ben mallett has got an obe . got an obe. >> okay, so the police aren't reinvestigating. that will be

interesting to see how that one plays out because it was invested stated well it was investigated , but all they had investigated, but all they had was the stills image. >> they've got dancing >> now they've got dancing music, people saying, oh, we're bending the rules. it's it obviously a bit raucous, more a bit raucous. right? so but there were other allegations about what boris johnson may or may not have been up to at chequers . yes, that also came out a few weeks ago. and thames valley police were looking at that. they have decided not to take that further. well this is this is interesting . is interesting. >> potentially not great news for shaun bailey lee, although we'll have to wait and see. he to be fair, kind of held his hands up relatively quickly and what will be will be there, i suppose. but fascinating that the boris johnson chequers gatherings, the police have said that we're not having a look at that we're not having a look at that. that we're not having a look at that . there's no need. okay. but that. there's no need. okay. but sir bernard jenkin, who was on the privilege committee , is on the privilege committee, is on the privilege committee, is on the privileges committee, is really facing a police

investigation. yes he is. >> and, of course, that was, you know, in in the middle of a lockdown. so clearly in the middle of a lockdown, you know, should not have been at this alleged drinks party. >> well, we wait, don't we? with bated breath, catherine , thank bated breath, catherine, thank you very much. big breaking news and well done for expertly picking through all the different elements of that catherine force that our political reporter. yes. watch this think will the this space i think will be the message that, message after all of that, wouldn't between now and wouldn't it? but between now and 6 on from my 6 pm, six days on from my performance with a group of male strippers , there is big news strippers, there is big news about my fundraising drive for mental health charity that is indeed , that is indeed bernard indeed, that is indeed bernard jenkin. he hasn't, as far jenkin. yeah, he hasn't, as far as perform any as we're aware, perform with any male strippers. at me, male strippers. don't at me, bernard. no. bernard. but apparently, no. anyway right but now as your headunes anyway right but now as your headlines polly . headlines with polly. >> well as you've been hearing, there are some breaking news lines this hour and they're coming to us all the time.

lines this hour and they're coming to us all the time . we're coming to us all the time. we're heanng coming to us all the time. we're hearing that the chair of the privileges committee, sir bernard jenkins, could be facing a police investigation. the metropol written police are reopening their investigation into the jingle and mingle lockdown party at conservative party hq . it's lockdown party at conservative party hq. it's also going to look into the gatherings on the 8th of december 2020, which tory mp bernard jenkin is said to have attended, and they reopened that investigation and launched a fresh probe. now into partygate allegations . two partygate allegations. two potential covid regulation breaches happened during the event at the conservative campaign headquarters in december 2020. those news lines coming to us all the time. we'll bnng coming to us all the time. we'll bring you the latest on those as they emerge . meanwhile, the they emerge. meanwhile, the prime minister has declined to say when he'll fulfil his promise of stopping small boat crossings, but he's denied it's on hold amid the ongoing a rwanda court battle. rishi sunak has been questioned by mps from the liaison committee today on a range of topics, including the cost of living , range of topics, including the cost of living, public range of topics, including the cost of living , public services cost of living, public services and the environment . mr sunak

and the environment. mr sunak denied he has no plan b if the supreme court does not overturn the ruling blocking the forceful removal of asylum seekers to kigali in rwanda, he told the liaison committee today that he'll ministers will challenge the appeals court judgement confidently and vigorously. that's still ongoing . we are that's still ongoing. we are keeping our eye on that for you as well. and thames water has been fined today £3.3 million for polluting two rivers back in 2017. the company's pleaded guilty, admitting to discharging millions of litres of undiluted sewage into the gatwick stream in sussex and the river mole in surrey over the course of 6.5 hours, killing more than 1400 fish, the judge said she believed thames water had also demonstrated a deliberate attempt to mislead the environment agency over the incident and the average rate for a five year fixed rate mortgage deal has now moved above 6. that's after the uk's four major banks were summoned to a meeting with the financial

watchdog over allegations of profiteering . the fca will profiteering. the fca will question the bosses of hsbc, natwest , lloyds and barclays natwest, lloyds and barclays over concerns savings rates are lagging behind the soaring cost of mortgages by about 4. and finally threads a new website which will be linked to instagram, is described as a new text based conversation website and app. it appears to closely resemble its main rival, twitter, and it's the latest chapter in the rivalry between facebook boss mark zuckerberg and elon musk, who bought twitter in october. twitter recently announced unverified users will be limited to reading 600 posts a day more on all those stories. head to our website at gbnews.com . website at gb news.com. >> website at gbnews.com. >> well, as many of you already

know, gb news is campaigning to stop the uk becoming a cashless society. the campaign is called don't kill cash and is proving to be hugely popular. so we launched it just over 24 hours ago and now we have more than 69,000 people who have signed it. more and more retailers are choosing to only accept card payments, not just retailers as well as things like parking metres and stuff. isn't it vulnerable people , especially vulnerable people, especially the who rely on cash, the elderly who rely on cash, are increasingly being left behind . and a massive 5.4 behind. and a massive 5.4 million adults still rely on cash.is million adults still rely on cash. is being used in 6 billion transactions every single year. but vested interests are but strong vested interests are pushing it be permanently pushing for it to be permanently replaced by debit and credit cards other electronic cards and other electronic payments. calling now payments. we are calling now here at gb news on the government to introduce legislation to legislation committing to protect the status of cash as legal tender as a widely accepted means of payment in the uk until at least 2050. and i think we're going to do it. you know, i've got a good feeling about this because we've set up this petition prevent this petition to prevent a cashless society. it's our cashless society. it's on our website, news forward

website, gb news .com forward slash cash. you've got slash cash. and if you've got a smartphone and you're watching us on telly or online right now, you be a qr code on you will be seeing a qr code on your screen you can just your screen and you can just hold phone over it and it hold your phone over it and it will take you to the campaign page. how gb news with our campaign. the authorities campaign. tell the authorities don't cash and this story don't kill cash and this story is, of course, very much related to this . if you have an opinion to this. if you have an opinion that's considered anti—woke, you might soon join a growing list of people who've had their accounts closed by uk banks and anglican . vicar recently fell anglican. vicar recently fell foul of it after he criticised yorkshire building societies pride agenda . and now it turns pride agenda. and now it turns out that more than half of the major high street banks have signed up to a diversity scheme run by the discredited lgb motty charity stone cornwall. and this is what i'm concerned about, which is that if you now tweet something or go public and say something or go public and say something along the lines of i don't think men should be in

women's spaces , which is quite women's spaces, which is quite a common view actually, then would you be contravening the banks , you be contravening the banks, lgbtq+ ethical moral code? and would they then shut your account? miranda yardley joins me now, who is a human rights activist. it says in my script there, thank you very much, miranda. great to have you on the show. i hope you are keeping well. so just just tell me now, what do you think about whether or not there's anything potentially bit potentially a little bit sinister more than half sinister going on more than half of high street banks signing up to stonewall agenda . my to this stonewall agenda. my concern they could use concern is that they could use this at some point this as an excuse at some point to people down. what to maybe shut people down. what do think ? do you think? >> of course it's >> yeah, of course it's possible. i mean, i think broadly people should be allowed to define their own boundaries. i think that that's quite i think that is quite important . i think that is quite important. i think that is quite important. i think that is quite important. i think that the there is a danger that the banks, you know, the banks will refuse services or close accounts down for people

that they don't want to offer their services to because they they're they consider the beliefs do not align . now, beliefs do not align. now, i know that there was a there was an unspecified woman's group that was referred to in a report by the co—operative bank some years ago where the bank had refused to open up an account for the women's group because they felt that their their their beliefs did not align with the bank. beliefs did not align with the bank . and there is a parents bank. and there is a parents group for children who identify as trans who i understand and have had difficulties with their bank as well. it's a group called our duty. and i've seen today that there is there has they've had difficulty having, you know, operating a bank account because they've contravened what the what the banks consider to be, you know,

pure thought that support this this sacred case that has appeared . appeared. >> yeah and this is it isn't it. and just tell me a little bit about your views on on stonewall and going into workplaces. they even produce some kind of league table . and i don't think it's a table. and i don't think it's a straightforward word, as is often claimed, which is that, oh, you know, we just come in and we offer some nice advice about how we can all be inclusive and lovely because if you're producing a league table of companies and corporations that are stonewall allies and then, you know, at some point you're producing a list of people, aren't you, there who you are basically saying very publicly , very indirectly or in publicly, very indirectly or in some way homophobic or transphobic for not really getting on board and taking on board what what stonewall want , board what what stonewall want, which is heavy duty pressure on companies to embrace a kind of very contested agenda, isn't it ? >> well, stonewall have got absolutely no right to call

anyone an or any group homophobic , given that they're homophobic, given that they're given that their chief executive of i think she's the chief executive , nancy kelly, called executive, nancy kelly, called people who are called individuals who have a sexual preference, a sexual orientation . she called them guilty of sexual apartheid, equated it to sexual apartheid, equated it to sexual racism. same sex attraction has been equated to sexual apartheid by stonewall. so they have absolutely no position to lecture people on how to how to behave towards homosexuals . i think as well homosexuals. i think as well with the banks , it really makes with the banks, it really makes me me laugh that the banks are pushing these ideas about equality and diversity . motty equality and diversity. motty and acceptance and integration , and acceptance and integration, particularly ideas about equality . given that there is equality. given that there is this , that there does appear to this, that there does appear to be this move to take cash out of society, which is going to hit, is going to hit people who are

working classes and those those who are on benefits, who are dependent upon cash to survive. kyiv and as as ever, the banks are guilty for when we have , you are guilty for when we have, you know, when we've had low rates of interest since the meltdown , of interest since the meltdown, the government bailed out meltdown in the late 90s. the banks have had a borrowing rate of 1 or 2. while they have been, of 1 or 2. while they have been, of course, heavily state subsidised and they've been charging customers 20, 30, 40% interest rates and absolutely urceus margin . urceus margin. >> yeah, i'm sorry, but i just i really just do not think that banks it's one thing banks take a political view, which i would question, but i suppose anyone in any company is really allowed a political view. maybe but taking a virtue signalling standpoint and for that to have an impact that potentially on people's finances because it's all very well and good talking.

nigel farage well, it's not all very well and good for nigel, to be fair, but you know, nigel has got a platform and he's got a, i would imagine, you know, an element of security. he's been in the game quite a long time, etcetera. you know, most etcetera. but, you know, most people are maybe only 1 or 2 paycheques away from financial oblivion. and by the time that you've been cancelled by your bank and then appealed or what have gone to court or then maybe even got an apology and had it reinstated you, quite possibly have had to sell your house, your car or everything you own. you know , your life has been you know, your life has been your life has been ruined. and this is this is my concern, which is why are banks even entertain the idea of getting involved in virtue signalling and wokery ? and wokery? >> well, it's politics. >> well, it's politics. >> it's the ultimate enforcement . what they can do is they can effectively unperson you if you don't toe the line . i understand

don't toe the line. i understand the situation with mr farage that there's a report that the bbc have kyiv issued today stating that they believe that his account being closed by coote was coote's was because he didn't satisfy their their wealth criteria, which kind of really gives you an idea about where these banks thinking really, really is . um, but we really, really is. um, but we still have this situation where our banks are able to wield this power. you if you've got a cashless society and it puts all the power proportionate amount of power to the banks, it does, it puts all the power of power onto them. >> and just just on that note as well, nigel has rebutted all of this stuff. right? and there is a video of him on twitter at the moment there's no limit moment saying there's no limit on etcetera. a little on it, etcetera. just a little throw ahead as well. i am actually for big actually covering for the big man farage. and man tonight, nigel farage. and you hearing from him you will be hearing from him on all this. stay tuned. all of this. so stay tuned. seven till 8 pm. tonight right here on gb news. we will have nigel farage on bizarrely on his

own show. but obviously we've been overtaken events , so been overtaken by events, so i'll covering it. but he's i'll be covering it. but he's going to be on and having a chat about this. miranda, thank you very, very great to have very, very much. great to have you show. miranda yardley you on the show. miranda yardley they're discussing about they're just discussing about banks all banks getting involved with all the stuff and whether banks getting involved with all th

it's you. it's it's amazing. thank you. it's just for such just giving.com for such fundraising such challenge. fundraising for such challenge. christie's when i back christie's when i come back i'm going to man who going to be talking to a man who helped of this helped make all of this possible. he's a real life dream boy. he's an absolute hero as well. he's a complete and utter salt of earth. this guy. and salt of the earth. this guy. and yeah, introduce you to him yeah, i'll introduce you to him when we back. but of when we come back. but of course, facilitated me course, he facilitated me dancing dream dancing on stage with the dream boy, i wanted to give him boy, so i wanted to give him a big

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britain's news. channel >> okay, wonderful people. now today is your last chance to donate money to my charity fundraising page. and so far you have raised more than £100,000. in fact , i think we're up to in fact, i think we're up to £106,000 now for the mental health charity mind, i want to say a massive, massive thank you. it all started just over a year ago. i agreed to perform with dream boys who are with the dream boys who are a fabulous group of male strippers. and last wednesday, it happened. did it actually happened. i did three routines night. one three routines on the night. one of a solo. you can see of them was a solo. you can see a clip of it on social a full clip of it on our social media. and i am delighted to say that, yes, we have now raised more than £106,000. the donations will close at midnight tonight. you can donate by going tonight. you can donate by going to justgiving.com forward slash fundraising forward slash challenge. christie's and i am really , really, really over the really, really, really over the moon to say that i'm joined now by jordan darrell who is the dreamboys creative director. jordan thank you very, very

much. and i just want to get you to on say a big thank you because about a year ago, i approached you. i wasn't in great nick, to be fair. and we were supposed to be doing this, this fund raiser. i then messed it up a bit. really and you were so accommodating. you were so accommodating. and you let me come back and do it again. and it is thanks to you that we've managed to raise about 106 grand for so just wanted to for charity. so i just wanted to say thank you very, very much, mate. >> well, you are very welcome. and also, how incredible , and also, how incredible, £106,000 for a great charity as well. and it started off as a little bit light hearted jest, as you were. and look what a monster it's turned into and what a performance you gave as well. so you have a home at dreamboys any time you want, that's for sure. >> you know, you're going to regret that . okay, because i regret that. okay, because i would happily do that every single night of my life if i could. >> jordan was telling before, >> jordan was telling me before, he's you're get he's like, you're going to get the this. and i was

the bug for this. and i was like, no, no, it turns out like, no, no, no. it turns out i absolutely, absolutely have. but just us a little bit just talk to us a little bit about the dreamboys. okay? because again, i think don't because again, i think i don't know not people know whether or not people have preconceived it. one preconceived ideas about it. one thing i struck by was thing that i was struck by was just what incredibly lads just what incredibly nice lads you are, how professional you all are, how professional you all are, how professional you all are, and the kind of dedication work that dedication and hard work that goes all. so yeah, go goes into it all. so yeah, go on. us a bit about the on. just tell us a bit about the dreamboys well, you very dreamboys well, it's as you very well now you've dipped a well know now you've dipped a foot in the ocean, as it were. >> a it's two hour full >> it's a it's a two hour full on energetic , um, kind of on energetic, um, kind of theatre entertainment show. yes, we take our clothes off, but it's so much more than that. and we bring everyone so much joy and happiness. we bring everyone so much joy and happiness . and it's about and happiness. and it's about having kind of two hours of just an incredible good time singing, dancing and being part of this environment that is just it cannot be matched. you've experienced it . it's very unique experienced it. it's very unique what we bring. and it's very good. and we get it from all our audience members because our doors are open to everyone. but

it's very good for everyone's mental health, which is amazing that you did it for that charity because it we really do help people along the way, which is kind of funny to think that it's a strip show, but we really do a 100% agree. >> i couldn't agree more. it's impossible to have a bad time watching guys , and you're watching you guys, and you're obviously always on tour as well. but going to go and find you online. but like i said, i just wanted to say a massive thank again. did you did thank you again. and did you did you that i you're being you think that i if you're being honest me now it's honest with me now that it's over and did you did you over and done, did you did you did think i'd probably mess did you think i'd probably mess it bit? it up a bit? >> oh, if i'm honest, i'm going to be honest with all of you out there. there was a brief point that you would have bottled it. there brief point. you there was a brief point. you talked a good game, but thought you might have. just when it got to the nitty gritty and the clothes off part , i thought you clothes off part, i thought you might have bottled it. but you completely the complete completely went the complete opposite so everyone opposite direction. so everyone better check it out online if you haven't already seen the footage you by far exceeded

footage and you by far exceeded my expectations as well. >> look, jordan, thank you very much. and seriously, from from the heart, because the bottom of my heart, because actually going through the actually doing going through the whole dreamboys process with whole dreamboys process and with you accommodating, you being so accommodating, i mean, in touch with you being so accommodating, i meéprobably in touch with you being so accommodating, i meéprobably aftern touch with you being so accommodating, i meéprobably after abouth with you being so accommodating, i meéprobably after about sixith you probably after about six months, know, having having months, you know, having having not spoken to you. you got on to me straight you were like, me straight away. you were like, yeah, let's make work. yeah, look, let's make it work. you went out of your you went massively out of your way. thanks you and way. and thanks to you and everything you've done at everything that you've done at the have got the dreamboys, we have now got about and you have about £106,000. and so you have helped to save some helped helped to save some lives, mate. so thank you. thank you.thank lives, mate. so thank you. thank you. thank from the bottom you. thank you. from the bottom of heart. thank to of my heart. and thank you to all of all of the lads as all of the all of the lads as well. take, take care, mate. all right. >> very much incredible. >> very much incredible. >> jordan dahl, that wonderful dreamboys creative director. look, and check look, you've got to go and check this check out the this guy out and check out the dreamboys as well. they are. they are great. michelle dewberry joins me now. >> & co know, i did not >> dewbs& co know, i did not realise over 100 realise you'd got over 100 grand. well done. grand. yes that bit. well done. i your video. i found it i saw your video. i found it fascinating. i enjoyed watching it and i thought to myself, look at you. all at you, you. you're all comfortable there, aren't comfortable on there, aren't you? we might see

you? i thought we might not see you? i thought we might not see you gb news again. you you back on gb news again. you might a new being might create a new career being a stripper. might go to the a stripper. i might go to the bosses on news and say that i bosses on gb news and say that i want to get my kit off for charity. you'd raise a lot more than a hundred grand. >> it's funny. >> it's funny. >> it's funny. >> it's old world. they >> it's a funny old world. they said there's a lot of double standards in this society. i might test my go the might test my theory, go to the bosses and say, all right, i'm going to pick a charity kit off. let's what happens. i'd love let's see what happens. i'd love to would go down. to know how that would go down. >> i don't they'd stop >> i don't think they'd stop you. don't think they would. you. i don't think they would. they would you. they would stop you. >> my age, payments keep >> at my age, the payments keep it i can tell you. oh, don't it on. i can tell you. oh, don't be daft. what's on? all be daft. what's on? and all seriousness, a fantastic cause. i it fabulous what you i think it was fabulous what you did. i thought you look fantastic. you're throwing yourself to yourself into it. and i want to give you little high five. not give you a little high five. not too though, cause too energetic, though, cause i don't to my old don't want to fall off my old bar stool. i won't get back up. thank anyway. coming thank you. anyway. loads coming up show tonight, i'm up on my show tonight, i'm absolutely i am absolutely fuming. i am about child but i'm child sex education, but i'm going cover going to pace myself and cover that tomorrow. that's for that one tomorrow. that's for a different up different day. coming up tonight, food banks, tonight, rishi sunak food banks, mps salaries ulez of mps salaries ulez got loads of stuff. him. stuff. alex steen. love him. ella stop trying

ella whelan as well. stop trying to up. at it's to shut me up. look at him. it's not someone important. not me. someone important. >> i got shouted out. i got shouted out. right. okay, we shouted out. right. okay, let we go dewberry. it go look. michelle dewberry. it was just was going to be fantastic. just watch watch okay. watch it. just watch it. okay. i'll see you in a little bit. i'm filling in for nigel, the big man. seen a bit. >> hello? aidan mcgivern >> hello? it's aidan mcgivern here met office with here from the met office with the forecast. the gb news forecast. it's turned a afternoon in turned into a wet afternoon in the south. that continuing the south. that rain continuing into in places, into the evening in places, showers for many into the evening in places, sh us, rs for many into the evening in places, sh us, it for many into the evening in places, sh us, it is for many into the evening in places, sh us, it is a for many into the evening in places, sh us, it is a drying for many into the evening in places, sh us, it is a drying up for many into the evening in places, sh us, it is a drying up themeany of us, it is a drying up theme overnight over the overnight and indeed over the next it's also going next few days. it's also going to warm up. but the time to warm up. but for the time being, it's quite cool out there because got this to because we've got this north to north and north westerly air flow and we've rain spell across we've got this rain spell across the some heavy and the south. some heavy and persistent weather moving the south. some heavy and persisteisouthern ather moving the south. some heavy and persisteisouthern athe then ling through southern and then southeastern parts through the evening . so the wettest weather evening. so the wettest weather by the night into by the end of the night into east midlands , east anglia, the east midlands, east anglia, the south—east showers elsewhere. and there'll still be some showers across of showers across parts of scotland, england and scotland, north—west england and wales overnight. a lot cloud wales overnight. a lot of cloud as there'll be some as well. there'll also be some clear spells system clear spells as this system moves quite a blustery moves away. quite a blustery wind with it as well. wind associated with it as well. very strong winds into the low countries by wednesday. but

across the uk actually things are settling down a touch as we start off wednesday with some bright spells, a lot of cloud. however and that cloud will, if anything , thicken through the anything, thicken through the day. still a few showers, but these are more scattered in nature compared with tuesday's wet weather. and in between the showers, it will a warmer day showers, it will be a warmer day to come with low in the to come with low 20s in the south. high teens in the north, top temperature, 23 celsius, somewhere like east anglia . then somewhere like east anglia. then the showers continue for a time into the evening, especially for parts of scotland, north—west england , northern ireland. but england, northern ireland. but actually plenty of clear spells developing overnight. and by the time we get to thursday morning, some sunshine across some decent sunshine across central and southeastern parts of . a slightly warmer of england. a slightly warmer night as well . temperatures in night as well. temperatures in some spots staying at 13 or 14 celsius. but we've got thickening cloud on thursday towards the north—west. initially a few showers for western scotland, northern ireland, northern england and wales. sunnier spells elsewhere. and then it turns fairly wet and windy across the north—west of on these program at the prestigacross'ic awards .

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