consultants and of the hospital, consultants and specialists association in england decided to extend their strike action by another six months, with 96.5% voting in favour . and months, with 96.5% voting in favour. and that decision comes as junior doctors prepare for a walkout for five days from july 13th to the 18 ninth. the prime minister says the strikes are making nhs waiting lists longer and already had half a million people's care be impacted by industrial action. >> and i don't think that's right. i think everyone can see the economic context that we're in and the necessity for the government to make responsible decisions . decisions. >> well, teachers unions are calling on the government to release recommendations on pay made by an independent review body. made by an independent review body . new made by an independent review body. new members in england are staging fresh strikes all day on wednesday and on friday over their ongoing dispute over pay all for education. unions rejected the government's latest offer of a £1,000 lump sum and

4.5% pay rise . the prince and 4.5% pay rise. the prince and princess of wales have surprised nhs staff by dropping for in a tea party at a hospital . william tea party at a hospital. william and kate helped lay tables at a reception at saint thomas's hospital to celebrate the nhs 75th anniversary. the royal couple met with guests, including aneira thomas, the first baby born on the nhs, named after nhs founder aneurin bevan. named after nhs founder aneurin bevan . it was hosted by nhs bevan. it was hosted by nhs charities together, which the prince and princess are patrons of. you're up to date on tv onune of. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and the tune in app. this is gb news, britain's news channel. all . britain's news channel. all. hello and welcome to headliners. >> i'm your host, simon evans, and tonight i am joined by a

comedian i've often admired. >> steve, an allen and a comedian. i've often worked with lewis schaffer . lewis schaffer. >> now they're to set up >> now they're trying to set up some kind division there immediately. >> obviously didn't have >> i've obviously didn't have any over that. any control over that. >> understand that, gentlemen? >> i loved it. >> i loved it. >> no complaints from me, wasn't it? >> it? > anyway it? >> anyway, we're all loved it. >> anyway, we're all loved it. >> i loved it, too, because it makes i worked and makes it seem like i worked and i worked with you. >> you did work. >> you did work. >> like that's above >> like that's a step above what people think. people normally think. >> do you remember the first time encountered another? time we encountered one another? >> edinburgh, 1999? yes. >> i do. >> i do. >> my god. >> oh, my god. >> oh, my god. >> i had no idea. >> i was. i had no idea. >> and was so mean to you. >> and i was so mean to you. well, understandable. >> and i was so mean to you. well. understandable. >> and i was so mean to you. well overrun.inderstandable. >> i overrun. >> i overrun. >> we'd . we were overrunning. >> we'd. we were overrunning. i'd overrun . i'd overrun. >> and you were. you were having to late. to get on late. >> that's why you. is that >> that's why you. oh, is that right? i thought we had right? yeah. so i thought we had overrun overrun. overrun you. you had overrun. you cross and then you came in cross and then somebody said to you, lewis, calm and the day you calm down. and the next day you came conciliatory came in with a conciliatory bottle and we've been bottle of wine, and we've been the of buddies since. the rest of buddies ever since. until recently. at until really quite recently. at this going to this rate, we're all going to overrun. let's have look at overrun. so let's have a look at wednesdays front the wednesdays front pages, the daily us off. boris daily mail, kick us off. boris partygate accuser faces his own

police probe. the guardian have uk ready . to drop £11.6 billion uk ready. to drop £11.6 billion pledge for climate fund. the financial times had the bank of england considers forcing foreign banks to replace branches with subsidiaries . branches with subsidiaries. technical issue there. the daily express cheaper food on the way as price war fight really hots up the mirror. it's time to tell people i have alzheimer's . from people i have alzheimer's. from fiona phillips and the daily star. i shall say this only once. allo, allo caused brexit. those were your front pages . and those were your front pages. and we'll begin with the daily mail. >> steve yeah, they go with boris's partygate accuser faces his own police probe. >> this is sir bernard jenkins. so it turns out he may have also

been at a lockdown . busting, been at a lockdown. busting, i think is the phrase they busting. >> yep. >> yep. >> lockdown busting party himself, although it turns out it was birthday drinks for his wife , so it's probably not like wife, so it's probably not like he wanted to be there. >> like, these aren't our friends. >> they're not a work event, though, then? >> they're not a work event, tho in 1, then? >> they're not a work event, tho in thatzn? >> they're not a work event, tho in that case, but it >> in that case, no, but it feels like pain. you know >> in that case, no, but it feels i mean?|. you know >> in that case, no, but it feels i mean? i'm you know >> in that case, no, but it feels i mean? i'm sure know >> in that case, no, but it feels i mean? i'm sure he ow >> in that case, no, but it feels i mean? i'm sure he didn't what i mean? i'm sure he didn't enjoy it, but yeah, this could be rather embarrassing. it could be rather embarrassing. it could be the huge pile be piled up on to the huge pile of people are trying of things that people are trying to this this boris situation. >> it's almost like one of these games and make games where you try and make something someone's games where you try and make somethbut someone's games where you try and make somethbut it someone's games where you try and make somethbut it sticks someone's games where you try and make somethbut it sticks to neone's games where you try and make somethbut it sticks to youra's jacket, but it sticks to your finger and you just can't get it. that happened to it. i mean, that happened to theresa after launched theresa may after she launched her eloquent passionate her very eloquent and passionate plea that standards be plea plea that the standards be upheld in the house of commons. if went nana if somebody went nana theresa may here we are and trotted it off. i mean, it's almost pointless, isn't it? >> well, it is pointless and i got into big trouble over this the last time reported on the last time we reported on this i said if they had this because i said if they had cared about covid, they wouldn't have had a party. if people were afraid of death, there's no way

you would a party, even you would have a party, even with your wife and you can't you can't argue it every single can't argue with it every single one these people have. you're one of these people have. you're not because every not going to argue because every single these had single one of these people had parties proved me that parties, which proved to me that they did not think it was a major thing. >> well, i think what what it certainly proves they didn't regard it as a major threat to themselves. and i that's themselves. and i think that's true. course, weren't true. but of course, we weren't doing it because it was a threat to themselves. they doing to themselves. they were doing it become it because they could become contagion or contagion loci of contagion or whatever that is whatever or nose. but that is still unacceptable. still nevertheless unacceptable. i be in be i would personally be in be quite happy to now see an amnesty people who were amnesty for people who were fined or certainly imprisoned at the time. we just said, the time. and we just said, listen, all overreacted. it the time. and we just said, listeall all overreacted. it the time. and we just said, liste all a all overreacted. it the time. and we just said, listeall a bit. overreacted. it the time. and we just said, listeall a bit incoherent.i. it the time. and we just said, listeall a bit incoherent. no oh, yeah. >> well, the people who got fined a coffee on a bench. >> yeah. i mean. i mean ordinary people, not politicians. i mean members of the public. >> the politicians and >> but. but the politicians and the scientists should be put on trial to a nuremberg. trial to be a nuremberg. >> oh, neil. neil ferguson should stocks and should be in the stocks and should be in the stocks and should there ever should have been there ever since was caught. since he was first caught. >> not enough for >> stocks is not good enough for that guy is. that guy that guy is. >> yeah , i'm with you. well, >> yeah, i'm with you. well, we're a good start

we're off to a good start here. next is guardian , lewis. next up is the guardian, lewis. >> this is the guardian, which says the uk ready drop says that the uk ready to drop $1.6 billion pledge for climate fund. $1.6 billion pledge for climate fund . and this is not over a fund. and this is not over a yeah fund. and this is not over a year. this is over five years because they they had doubled the amount from 5.6 million. and the amount from 5.6 million. and the fact is, is we're going to need every we the british people are going to need every penny to go to reparations. we can't we can't be just giving money away. >> but they said that is true. they said that douglas murray will save us that. uk will save us from that. the uk committed to spend 5.8 billion over the five years up to 2021. and then it said this was to be doubled. oh i see. from 2021. so we're halfway through this span already. i mean, slightly already. i mean, it's slightly incoherent, but what do you think? think normally i would think? i think normally i would be the one we should be be the one saying we should be leading it comes to leading the way when it comes to trying the standards, trying setting the standards, whereas this is more about the fact promises made and whereas this is more about the fact a promises made and whereas this is more about the fact a covid1ises made and whereas this is more about the fact a covid thing made and whereas this is more about the fact a covid thing happened and then a covid thing happened and now halfway through the now we're halfway through the penod now we're halfway through the period we'd to do that spending. >> so we'd really have to go hell for leather on the

spending. understand spending. so i understand why the change. you read the the numbers change. you read the article. it's not if we will article. it's not as if we will now zero. so now be spending zero. so actually, is more actually, i think this is more about numbers change rather about a numbers change rather than of direction as a than a change of direction as a proper motion. than a change of direction as a pro itr motion. than a change of direction as a pro itr motiowe're paying quite >> it seems we're paying quite a lot. it seems there was lot. it seems like there was a worldwide commitment to spend 78 billion, which we're billion, of which we're committed spend about 11, committed to spend about 11, which by very rough maths, is about a seventh. right? that that would suggest that pro—rata we are about a seventh of the world economy, which we absolutely are not. >> and the problem with >> right. and the problem with this is a this story is, is this is a tory, a tory government who is spending money on climate change that i'm quite sure maybe if not, maybe 20, 30, 40% of tories out there think that the climate is a it is a climate scam , that is a it is a climate scam, that they don't believe in it. so this is this is one of the most irritating first of all, i don't believe in it. i think it's complete, complete . complete, complete. >> well, i don't know. i mean, there is the argument. i certainly think there is an argument that the parliament, three parties more three parties are far more committed. we know for a

committed. i mean, we know for a fact the parliamentary fact that the parliamentary conservative to the conservative party is to the left of the labour membership in this i mean , that's one this country. i mean, that's one of the weird, incoherent things on sorts social issues. on all sorts of social issues. and would climate and i would imagine climate change is certainly one of them, but also that with but it does also seem that with the amount of the extraordinary amount of pain, already pain, everyone is already feeling a commitment to feeling due to a commitment to green and net zero green energy and net zero policies on top of covid on top of the ukraine war, on top of all the other pressures that are on people, this is actually not going to an unpopular policy going to be an unpopular policy to from. to walk away from. >> it shouldn't be >> yeah, and it shouldn't be that to the burden that we have to carry the burden and it. i'm all for and we pay for it. i'm all for putting some funding in so that we invent stuff and lead the way. could absolute way. we could make an absolute mint way. we could make an absolute mirthat is exactly what i feel >> that is exactly what i feel about should be silicon about it. it should be silicon fen there should be all fen that there should be all about not chucking money fen that there should be all about n(are chucking money fen that there should be all about n(are we :hucking money fen that there should be all about n(are we spendingnoney into the are we spending any amount time worrying amount of our time worrying about the. >> but if develop >> but if we develop the technologies that the world has agreed necessary, if agreed are necessary, even if they're necessary, then they they're not necessary, then they will profit. they're not necessary, then they wilieven profit. they're not necessary, then they wilieven it's profit.oil. >> even if it's snake oil. >> even if it's snake oil. >> if we make the best snake oil, we'll have to come back to this get onto the toyota this when we get onto the toyota story on to the

express. >> in the meantime, steve, cheaper price war. >> finally hots up. this whole thing reads like for supermarkets have sent a press release and bought some advertising space they're finally bringing the price princess to dress like a cucumber . cucumber. >> yeah, it makes me want to eat it . it. >> although with the purple in the top corner, this is a bit of a batman villain. >> it be enough. dinner, >> it might be enough. dinner, mint, possibly. >> but of this, >> possibly. but so off of this, you they say inflation you know, they say inflation is coming of the coming down. yeah. part of the inflation you were inflation was because you were increasing prices. your supermarkets greedflation increasing prices. your supewe arkets greedflation increasing prices. your supewearkets about.edflation that we talked about. >> know. we talked >> well, i don't know. we talked about that last night. i think supermarkets greedy. supermarkets are always greedy. so prices at so if they can raise prices at any moment, they always so if they can raise prices at any haveroment, they always so if they can raise prices at any have done1t, they always so if they can raise prices at any have done so. hey always so if they can raise prices at any have done so. so' always so if they can raise prices at any have done so. so there ys would have done so. so there must why they must be a reason why they couldn't get away with it. >> every business, it does mean that to give them that i don't want to give them credit that. if credit for reversing that. if someone mugs you and hands you a tenner back, don't have to someone mugs you and hands you a ter awful. ck, don't have to be awful. >> but they saying on the >> but they are saying on the one hand it says inflation is down. well, that still would suggest and suggest there's inflation. and then are then they're saying prices are starting to fall, which is actually deflation only about two. very two. but that would be very welcome. care if that is

welcome. i don't care if that is a press release, if that's happening. problem a press release, if that's happesuspect problem a press release, if that's happe suspect is problem a press release, if that's happe suspect is tied problem a press release, if that's happe suspect is tied with.em that i suspect is tied in with this won't have escaped this is you won't have escaped your notice, i'm sure. and in hove, which is a relatively affluent live, affluent area where we live, there empty there have been empty supermarket there supermarket shelves. there are certainly of shortages. supermarket shelves. there are certtthat's of shortages. supermarket shelves. there are certtthat's onlyof shortages. supermarket shelves. there are certtthat's onlyof sh0|to;es. supermarket shelves. there are certtthat's onlyof sh0|to keep and that's only going to keep pnces and that's only going to keep prices right. you're down prices up. right. if you're down to quarter pounders, to your last quarter pounders, you. know. you. well, we don't know. >> according to >> and according to this article, about article, it says nothing about how wholesale prices have gone down. just seems like they've down. it just seems like they've just decided to raise prices and lower prices. they're doing this today because two days ago, the front saying front page was saying supermarkets all off supermarkets ripped us all off with petrol. >> right. and this turns >> right. and so now this turns up maybe we forget about up so that maybe we forget about the petrol rip off. >> well, possible. we'll >> well, that's possible. we'll have space. have to watch this space. >> with steve. >> i agree with steve. >> i agree with steve. >> finished this section with >> i agree with steve. >.mirror. nished this section with >> i agree with steve. >.mirror. louis. this section with >> i agree with steve. >.mirror. louis. oh,i section with >> i agree with steve. >.mirror. louis. oh, thistion with >> i agree with steve. >.mirror. louis. oh, this isn with a mirror. louis. oh, this is a tragic story, i'm going to tragic story, and i'm going to try handle this as nicely as possible. >> it's time to tell people i have alzheimer's, fiona have alzheimer's, as fiona phillips, star. i'm phillips, who's a big star. i'm not familiar with but not that familiar with her, but she's 62 old and it she's only 62 years old and it is really sad. but i think i think it has to be said that in my view and you will question me because you are the science and you're also mr science

assignment. but i don't think that that alzheimer's is necessarily a death sentence or is irreversible . i think i think is irreversible. i think i think it can be treated by eliminating seed oils , by eliminating a low seed oils, by eliminating a low carb diet and by increasing animal fat in her diet. and that's the problem is that she i haven't done that checked it. but most likely she's probably on a very high carb plant based diet, possibly even a vegetarian or a vegan diet . or a vegan diet. >> so do you have any i mean, i am aware that you've done some reading on diet. and this isn't just all like conspiracy claptrap, but do you have any like there been any links demonstrated between cedars and alzheimer's specifically? yes there is. >> because because the thing about seed oils, it's a toxic chemical . and i think what chemical. and i think what alzheimer's is , is i mean, alzheimer's is, is, is i mean, they're always searching for plaques brain. but it has plaques in the brain. but it has to with garbage garbage to do with garbage in, garbage out. our brains are like a huge percentage of cholesterol. and we've been on a knock down, drag

out thing over the past 60 years to reduce cholesterol and bring you in on that. >> steve yeah, i mean, this story is it's a big one for me because both my parents had alzheimer's. they passed away in the in various lockdowns. indeed, my edinburgh show this year about my year is all about my relationship alzheimer's, year is all about my relatios0|ip alzheimer's, year is all about my relatioso and alzheimer's, year is all about my relatioso and i alzheimer's, year is all about my relatioso and i like zheimer's, year is all about my relatioso and i like the ner's, year is all about my relatioso and i like the fact ;, right? so and i like the fact that people are coming forward and talking about it more because it's always been the kind would ruin a kind of topic that would ruin a dinner party. yeah, you mentioned alzheimer's. oh, people but we need people clam up, but we need to talk about more talk more about it because more people end having people will end up having it. i agreed the first of agreed with the first half of thing that you said there that it's not a death sentence, it's not not a death sentence, but the body gets but as more of the body gets fixed ways, what's fixed in other ways, what's mathematically yes at mathematically left over? yes at the moment, dementia related conditions so people are conditions. so more people are going it. more people are going to get it. more people are going to get it. more people are going to get it. more people are going to related people going to be related to people with it. we to talk about it. >> but that is, of course, people later life than people in much later life than 62. it does seem like she has a probably a genetic predisposition, not predisposition, but i am not ruling out the possibility of diet. it's always diet. so i think it's always worth the worth investigating the possibility improve your possibility you can improve your chances. part

chances. that is it for part one. after the break. one. join us after the break. for war, banking wars and for class war, banking wars and wars independence. it is wars of independence. it is after all, 4th july. see after all, the 4th of july. see you a couple of

radio. and welcome back to headliners. >> i'm simon evans. tonight i'm joined by steve allen and lewis schaefer. let us crack on with the stories we go into the papers now. steve in house business. to business. first apologies to our viewers our viewers while we get our domestic situation sorted out, but the guardian the latest but the guardian has the latest on nigel farage. >> there. the update is >> it's there. the update is nigel farage farage bank nigel farage farage coutts bank account closed due to lack of funds. account closed due to lack of funds . now i account closed due to lack of funds. now i can relate. yeah so. >> and yet not yet . >> and yet not yet. >> and yet not yet. >> well, when you get to down to the figures, the bank requires that you have £1 million invested or £3 million in savings. the terms and conditions are on their website, which is fair enough. and then it's that nigel was it's claimed that nigel was offered account. i offered a natwest account. i mean, i do actually have one of those. humblebrag but nigel mean, i do actually have one of thos

thos> because he claims that he's got as much in there he's had got as much in there as he's had for if that isn't for ages, which if that isn't 3 million in savings or a million in investment might mean that they were turning a blind eye and they've decided to play and now they've decided to play it and in it by the rules. and that is in itself way in which a certain itself a way in which a certain amount of pressure can be brought to bear. i'm not saying it's, you know, not it's, you know, it's not illegal. it's not even necessarily worth the government

looking it it is this necessarily worth the government lo important it it is this necessarily worth the government lo important to it it is this necessarily worth the government lo important to get it is this necessarily worth the government lo important to get tois this necessarily worth the government lo important to get to lheiis is important to get to the bottom of because kind of bottom of because this kind of thing to happening. bottom of because this kind of thir do to happening. bottom of because this kind of thirdo know to happening. bottom of because this kind of thirdo know for to happening. bottom of because this kind of thir do know for a:o happening. bottom of because this kind of thir do know for a fact happening. bottom of because this kind of thir do know for a fact that,»ening. bottom of because this kind of thir do know for a fact that, forng. we do know for a fact that, for instance, friends at instance, our friends at trigonometry their bank trigonometry had their bank account closed. that definitely happened wasn't like happened and that wasn't like coutts . we know for coutts or anything. we know for a the political a fact that the political blogger scotland blogger wings over scotland has been and been absolutely isolated and persecuted. so it's really important this is the most high profile example and it's important to get it sorted. >> it's almost if you take this one out, then we can definitely focus on the issue of opinions. shouldn't preclude you a shouldn't preclude you from a bank account. >> say? well were >> what do you say? well were theyi >> what do you say? well were they i mean, did coutts just call them up and say, listen, you've got to put some more money in the bank? >> well, that would be the first thing it? the first thing wouldn't it? the first thing wouldn't it? the first thing the first thing that would be the first thing. this stinks. maybe thing. this thing stinks. maybe steve that it steve doesn't think that it stinks steve's missed stinks because steve's missed the wing and it would never the left wing and it would never happen but people happen to him. but the people out could happen to out there, it could happen to and ukel out there, it could happen to and like i think it and the people like i think it could happen they could could happen to me. they could just they should have just change. they should have coots could have made coots coots could have made a phone call a week before, a

month before saying , hey, we've month before saying, hey, we've noficed month before saying, hey, we've noticed that we have these rules, we help you and then and then can we? if you can't get enough money, we do this with everybody. >> and of course, if they have that phone call logged, then they to demonstrate they will be able to demonstrate it. funnily enough, it. but funnily enough, i was with mentioned a with natwest. i mentioned this a couple sort of couple of nights ago, sort of tongue cheek, but it's true. tongue in cheek, but it's true. i natwest about i was with natwest in about 1992, something that, and 1992, something like that, and they account they just closed my account without because without any warning because it had permanently about £50 had been permanently about £50 overdrawn. was sort of on overdrawn. i was sort of on benefits and we'd the benefits and we'd have the occasional bit freelance occasional bit of freelance work. to get work. i was trying to get started a freelance started as a freelance journalist just sent me journalist and they just sent me a day. do you know a letter one day. so do you know what bored of? you what we're bored of? you footling, you know, but i hadn't broken was just broken any rules. i was just slightly might have slightly overdrawn. i might have bounced odd cheque in rent bounced the odd cheque in rent or , you know? i do or something, you know? and i do remember thinking quite. or something, you know? and i do r

than natwest. but could it they havi called steve? than natwest. but could it they havi mean. steve? than natwest. but could it they havi mean. yeahsteve? than natwest. but could it they havi mean. yeah well,’ than natwest. but could it they havi mean. yeah well, they could >> i mean. yeah well, they could have done. >> but what i'm saying is it does feel a like you're does feel a bit like you're being unperson, isn't it? is an unpleasant experience. anyway speaking of unspeakable levels of personal the, the of personal wealth, the, the independent wants to know if having a wealthy prime minister in a time of pestilence, famine and war is bad optics . and war is bad optics. >> be bad optics, >> well, it might be bad optics, but need what the but we need to know what the opfics but we need to know what the optics according the optics are. according to the independent, up sunak independent, bringing up sunak wealth is, quote, class warfare, end quote , says tory minister, end quote, says tory minister, who claims food bank use is a personal decision. okay let's just stick with the one thing, which is should we know that sunak has money, we should know we should know what businesses he's in and what businesses his decisions are affected. you know, his we should know. we should know everything about it. and unfortunately, in this country, which is which is and this is july 4th, this is american independence day. this is a great country. american independence day. this is a great country . the greatest is a great country. the greatest thing about this country is that it america, is the it created america, which is the greatest country. but we don't we know anything about we never know anything about what's with our what's going on with our political leaders .

political leaders. >> obviously, most >> we i mean, obviously, most tory and particular prime tory mps and in particular prime ministers have ministers over the years have usually quite a lot of usually had quite a lot of significant contact with with significant, significant wealth. and is unusually wealthy. and sunak is unusually wealthy. his family is. >> but we should know we didn't know about boris johnson, that he's many we still don't he's how many we still don't know many kids the guy has, know how many kids the guy has, whether that's an whether he and that's an important with tony blair. whether he and that's an impdidn't with tony blair. whether he and that's an impdidn't know with tony blair. whether he and that's an impdidn't know .vith tony blair. whether he and that's an impdidn't know . we tony blair. whether he and that's an impdidn't know . we didn'tilair. whether he and that's an impdidn't know . we didn't know we didn't know. we didn't know whether he was, you know, whether he was, you know, whether he was, you know, whether he supported whether he was the was giving his own kids the vaccine back in the day. right. that he you know, and that he was recommending it. i think we need didn't know. need to know. i didn't know. i don't know where my don't even know where my councillors don't even know where my couwhat rs don't even know where my couwhatrs you think, steve? do >> what do you think, steve? do you matters people ? you think he matters to people? >> not just about >> this is not just about whether matters. it's whether it matters. it's also that is johnny mercer calls that this is johnny mercer calls it class warfare. the poor it class warfare. oh, the poor billionaires bit of billionaires having a bit of focus. smallest focus. i would play my smallest little not a little violin, but it's not a stradivarius. wouldn't like little violin, but it's not a strasound.s. wouldn't like little violin, but it's not a strasound.s. 'doesin't like little violin, but it's not a strasound.s. 'does matter little violin, but it's not a stra sound.s. 'does matter , the sound. the it does matter, because if the reason that we the excuse for delving into whether a prime minister or a politician has had an affair is in case their voting on some sort of family issue . it sort of family matters issue. it might germane. well, if

might be germane. well, if you've a of and you've got a lot of money and we're having economic we're having an economic issue decisions, will decisions, you make it will inform your decision. so it's right to focus on. >> i mean, i think for a long time now, there's been a good argument that we should pay politicians more then politicians a lot more and then demand give their demand they give up their exterior interests, at exterior financial interests, at least term they're least for the term that they're in possibly the in office, possibly with the opportunity to buy back at some point but obviously point or whatever. but obviously that you that makes it difficult. you want have some want people who have some experience of the real world, but least know what's but or at least know what's going on. will also say i'm no going on. i will also say i'm no fan of johnny mercer because he was the first to throw roger scruton bus when the scruton under the bus when the new did a hit job on new statesman did a hit job on him in an interview. so he's he's proven himself to be unsound i'm concerned. unsound as far as i'm concerned. and it's very ill and i think it's very ill advised to claim that people and i think it's very ill advisuse:o claim that people and i think it's very ill advisuse food im that people and i think it's very ill advisuse food bankst people and i think it's very ill advisuse food banks forzople and i think it's very ill advisuse food banks foraopleof only use food banks for sort of vaguely purposes. vaguely cosmetic purposes. >> put in a word that >> how can i put in a word that the independent is longer the independent is no longer a newspaper not be newspaper and should not be included in headlines? included in these headlines? >> to agree with >> well, i tend to agree with you. the other hand, this you. on the other hand, this channel itself has come under scrutiny kind of times. scrutiny of that kind of times. so careful. so be careful. >> i'm saying it >> but i'm not saying it shouldn't exist, i think if shouldn't exist, but i think if we're going to we're going to we're going to if we're going to use which is

use a website, which is basically the independent basically what the independent is, then maybe we should go to nick dixon's sceptic. nick dixon's daily sceptic. i don't whether it was here don't know whether it was here or it might another or whether it might be another story come to later story that we come to later where independent had, you where the independent had, you know, actual know, hyperlinks in the actual story, click story, which you could click on and you to proof and it would take you to proof to demonstrate what they were talking of them took you to >> and one of them took you to jacobin, a jacobin, which is literally a marxist online. mean, quite marxist online. i mean, quite a well respected mark. but it is a marxist newspaper, you know, with marxist agenda. so with a with a marxist agenda. so odd. former fire brand odd. steve, former fire brand news metro news now according to the metro one youngest mps of my one of the youngest mps of my lifetime i really am very lifetime and i really am very old that in mind she's old so bear that in mind she's stepping down backwards and northwards. >> yeah the youngest mp for 350 years. so we know you're less than 350 years old. murray black is stepping down. kids these days, they know stamina . so days, they know stamina. so she's she's done eight years the yeah and well and she's worked it out this way though she says she's dedicated a third of her life. wow to westminster which is you know true but as a fraction the denominator is small. like my kids. one and a half. he's dedicated a third of his life to crying a boob.

his life to crying for a boob. >> lives are kind of logarithmic when you're young, aren't they? you to you know, they it starts to unwind quickly. she'll unwind pretty quickly. she'll realise second unwind pretty quickly. she'll realisof second unwind pretty quickly. she'll realisof life second unwind pretty quickly. she'll realisof life dedicated nd unwind pretty quickly. she'll realisof life dedicated to. third of her life dedicated to. not much at all. probably not very much at all. probably just reading emails and stuff. >> so part this story >> yeah. so part of this story almost is set up to look like it's about stamina, but the claims true. in tweet she claims ring true. in a tweet she said maintained how said that i've maintained how outdated and toxic outdated sexist and toxic a place westminster is . very possibly. >> well, i don't know. i find the word toxic. i do use it occasionally, but it's a weasel word, isn't it? has no real meaning. it made meaning. it just means it made her ill. i mean, kids her feel ill. i mean, my kids would probably regard my car as toxic young. toxic when they were young. i think she's complaining think she's she's complaining about culture hard about a sort of culture of hard work, and perhaps, work, long hours and perhaps, you know. yeah, not quite as many restrooms break out of opportunities and so on as you might get in a modern sort of silicon valley establishment. might get in a modern sort of silicthatalley establishment. might get in a modern sort of silicthat is ey establishment. might get in a modern sort of silicthat is it establishment. might get in a modern sort of silicthat is it is;tablishment. might get in a modern sort of silicthat is it is parliament. . but that is it is parliament. you know, it's not a normal workplace. >> she's 20, she's 28 years old. she's been in glastonbury. she, you know , she complaining about you know, she complaining about the restrooms . that's true. at the restrooms. that's true. at the restrooms. that's true. at the end of the day , she sees the the end of the day, she sees the

writing on the wall, the writing on the wall is the snp is possibly i'm not i'm not an expert that whatever expert in that in that whatever thatis expert in that in that whatever that is hanging by a thread. yeah they're hanging by thread yeah they're hanging by a thread she same way all she sees it's the same way all the the tories are jumping the all the tories are jumping ship and the snp people are jumping. >> well that at least is going to keep the ship balanced because the tories jumping off one side and snp off the other. so it's not because so yeah no it's not because labour to win this seat labour is going to win this seat and to it and that's going to make it easier labour. is easier for labour. it is interesting isn't it, the law of unintended consequences in this regard think have been a thorn in would think have been a thorn in the the right and the the side of the right and the established right westminster established right in westminster and about established right in westminster and attempts about established right in westminster and attempts to about established right in westminster and attempts to block about established right in westminster and attempts to block self—ith their attempts to block self—id . tory parties . but westminster tory parties absolutely benefited enormously from the from the snp and the fact that labour voters might actually be afraid of even voting for labour in england if they afraid that they might they are afraid that they might go into coalition. so yeah, i mean this is, this is the worst possible outcome in a way for sunak of the snp sunak, right? the end of the snp . louis over to the telegraph . . louis over to the telegraph. the latest amendment to this shows least favourite bit of

legislation. the online safety bill. >> well this this is misogynistic abuse to be banned onune misogynistic abuse to be banned online to reduce harm to women and girls. according to the telegraph and this is actually one of the most horrific things is like, you know , here we're is like, you know, here we're under the cosh of ofcom. we're basically controlled and they say, okay, good reason because we're the public airwaves. anybody could turn in on this . anybody could turn in on this. but but is this is online, but but this is this is online, which is private, basically private community nations or people don't have to find anything. they don't anyway . so anything. they don't anyway. so it's that if they people say things that make girls and women cw things that make girls and women cry that that the companies might be fined 10% of their global turnover over which is which is enough to kill a and this is why small it could be their margin you're right it could be their margin. and one more thing, simon, is like, what would they what would , you know, would they what would, you know, abusive things get sent in the mail to in the post should

should they find that royal mail ? >> well, 7— >> well, it's 7 >> well, it's got the ? >> well, it's got the king's head on the stamp. yeah you know. should they go to him? yeah i know what you mean. >> i suppose that's a comparison more whatsapp, the more to do with whatsapp, the message, way of sending message, the way of sending a message, the way of sending a message the argument about message and the argument about some is some platforms like twitter is that are technically that you are technically a broadcast platform, not that i'm saying i particularly agree with it, but it's all. >> none of these things. none of these map perfectly onto these things map perfectly onto previous do they? they these things map perfectly onto previopeople do they? they these things map perfectly onto previopeople sayio they? they these things map perfectly onto previopeople say twitter’ they these things map perfectly onto previopeople say twitter is hey these things map perfectly onto previopeople say twitter is the some people say twitter is the town square. default town square. it's the default open environment where everyone should be allowed to speak freely. people you're should be allowed to speak frpublisher. people you're should be allowed to speak frpublisher. some e you're should be allowed to speak frpublisher. some people )u're should be allowed to speak frpublisher. some people say, a publisher. some people say, no, have to try and work no, we just have to try and work out the best legislation no, we just have to try and work out and the best legislation no, we just have to try and work out and make est legislation no, we just have to try and work out and make everyoneation no, we just have to try and work out and make everyone happy. to try and make everyone happy. but i do feel legislation. i do feel at the moment it's there's a general drift towards a sort of authoritarian , an attitude, of authoritarian, an attitude, say, just say i'm pointing say, let's just say i'm pointing to myself , no legislation . to myself, no legislation. >> no. yeah. >> no. yeah. >> because you do terrible case today. >> south yorkshire police whooping it up because they managed to give somebody 18 months jail for abusive months in jail for abusive social media messages , which i social media messages, which i

mean, maybe they were that bad. crime news. now this is our last story of the segment. we'll have to it short in the time, to keep it short in the time, steve, have rights and steve, we have the rights and wrongs fraud. i've got to wrongs of fraud. i've got to say, i like these odds. certainly only 1 in 3000 chance of going prison if you do of going to prison if you do a bit of fraud. >> so your weekend >> so that's your weekend sorted? with sorted? yeah. what happened with fraud government fraud is this the government wanted able to say we're wanted to be able to say we're tough on crime because that's how vote it. but it how people vote for it. but it turns didn't do turns out they didn't do particularly well. then they found of talking found a way of talking about crime figures. and you can say that last ten years, the that in the last ten years, the crime figures have halved because counting because they stopped counting fraud during because they stopped counting fraurperiod during because they stopped counting fraurperiod for during because they stopped counting fraurperiod for about during because they stopped counting fraurperiod for about ofuring that period for about half of crime. right literally, they fudged just fudged it by going, let's just not count half and say it's dropped that means dropped by half. that means we've now ignored fraud to such dropped by half. that means we extentv ignored fraud to such dropped by half. that means we extentv igniin d fraud to such dropped by half. that means we extentv igniin d fr.pasto such an extent that in the past decade it around 400,000 decade it was around 400,000 cases. last year we've cases. in the last year we've got 3.7 million and that's how much it's increased. we are at such risk of being done in a fraud and online fraud , and yet fraud and online fraud, and yet the are good for avoiding prison. >> and is that partly because they would rather find people because fraudsters generally because fraudsters are generally not i not physically dangerous? i suppose be an

suppose that might be an argument sending to argument for not sending them to jail. then flip jail. well but then the flip side, what just said about side, what you just said about sending to jail. side, what you just said about senyeah, to jail. side, what you just said about senyeah, absolutelyjail. side, what you just said about senyeah, absolutely true. >> yeah, absolutely true. >> yeah, absolutely true. >> that's it for part two. coming we'll online coming up, we'll have online harms unharmed arms and dads, armies. we'll see a armies. we'll see you in a couple of minutes

this evening. gb news is the people's . channel people's. channel >> and welcome back to headliners. so we'll kick off with the daily mail in this section. lewis this puts our onune section. lewis this puts our online harms bill in perspective of us michigan and so on. >> the same theme daily mail michigan residents could be charged with a felony face up to five years in prison and get a £10,000 fine just for using the wrong pronouns under unconscious stitutional new bill unconss stitutional new bill unconss stitutional means it violates the american the american first amendment. michigan so basically what this is in michigan, which is like that like that in america, they always go like

that. they say we're we're in michigan are you from and they always point their finger like that. right. right. and is it on the lakes? yeah, it's like over there. over here. they're always pointing have joke, pointing. and i have a joke, which started this as. and which i started this as. and then remembered do then i remembered i can't do this joke on tv. >> well , go this joke on tv. >> well, go and see lewis this joke on tv. >> well , go and see lewis live >> well, go and see lewis live for the rest of that joke. you'll see. >> you'll see the megxit. >> you'll see the megxit. >> are they generally regarded as a state where this kind of authority, overreach, authority, an overreach, has been coming for some time, though? >> no. basically it's a it's a state many states in state like many states in america, has like rural america, which has like a rural area people very area where people are very conservative and inner city conservative and an inner city area like detroit, detroit or flint , although detroit became flint, although detroit became rural again , didn't it? rural again, didn't it? >> but it's on the way up again. >> but it's on the way up again. >> it's coming. it's coming back, thank god. and where they basically basically trashed basically they basically trashed it. certainly like it's it. so it's certainly like it's a like new york, is a state like new york, which is like that or pennsylvania or virginia. that. and virginia. they're like that. and they they're basically saying is they they're basically saying is they say what constitutes suits being intimidated or harassed would be up to the

interpretation of the listener and the local . and the local. >> and i mean, just to make it clear on this pronouns thing, the only way in which the wrong pronouns will be used, offensive is correctly , isn't it? do you is correctly, isn't it? do you know what i mean? like in traditional so i would traditional terms? so i would say is great say yeah. lewis is a great broadcaster. he absolutely gets my vote. and you would go. i now identify i was to say lewis identify if i was to say lewis is a great broadcast writer, she really gets my vote and you're like, that's just i'm calling you something. that would you gay or something. that would do mean? that do you know what i mean? that wouldn't right i'm wouldn't be the right i'm correct right? that correct for this, right? that wouldn't be offensive. if i was to use theatrical slang , i to use theatrical slang, i stopped listening. >> listening because >> i stopped listening because i don't trust you. so who knows what you're always saying with your well, i mean, your smart words? well, i mean, i technically, that i suppose technically, that would be because. would also be because. >> what? the thing. the thing that's harassment that's illegal is the harassment they've included new they've just included the new classifications ways in classifications in the ways in which you can harass to include sexual identity, gender, whatever the words would be. >> it's boring attention to biological sex. yeah. >> then it's more about the >> but then it's more about the fact repeat something . so >> but then it's more about the fa> but then it's more about the fa> but then it's more about the fa> but then it's more about the

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we'll bring on our own rules, thank you very much. i'd have thought they had own thought they had their own racket and she then successfully sued because it was going too far at a time when the actual restrictions of the country were going down. they wanted to do it. performatively and she wasn't in care home or wasn't working in a care home or somewhere could somewhere where you could legitimately to legitimately say you need to be jabbed least felt jabbed or at least they felt that needed be jabbed. that you needed to be jabbed. >> obviously won't >> i mean, obviously louis won't accept anyone should be accept that anyone should be jabbed. but even within accept that anyone should be jablcontext even within accept that anyone should be jablcontext of even within accept that anyone should be jablcontext of the 'en within accept that anyone should be jablcontext of the understanding the context of the understanding of notion of no one should of the notion of no one should be it more like the travel be made, it more like the travel wasbut even then there was >> but even then there was a flight that she couldn't take. someone else went instead and took with them a freelance cameraman who wasn't vaccinated. john lewis. >> i mean, this is why i'm going to take a different point on this. why shouldn't a company fire people, whoever they want to fire for whatever reason they want to fire without the government intervention ? yes. government intervention? yes. i'm totally i am unvaxed i'm totally against forcing people totally against forcing people to vax. but if you work for a company that wants you to vax , company that wants you to vax,

they should . and you know, vax, they should. and you know, vax, they should. and you know, vax, they should. and you know, vax, they should fire you. but at the same time , we should never do same time, we should never do business with companies like that. >> fair enough. that seems like a workable solution. cultural studies in the guardian . lewis, studies in the guardian. lewis, a fellow chauffeur here who has made to me to be made what seems to me to be a pretty blindingly obvious observation. oh, my god. about ella brexit. yes ella whelan and brexit. yes >> yeah. so this was this was according to historian gavin schaefer , no relation as as schaefer, no relation as far as you no relation in i mean, you know, no relation in i mean, i don't even know he's i don't even know if he's pronounced schaefer, but pronounced gavin schaefer, but i'm it that i'm going to pronounce it that way. erwin schaefer and when i actually article, actually read the article, according voice according to the voice activation , they called activation software, they called it pronounced it my name schaefer, which no one has ever really done anyway . i'm a really done anyway. i'm a schaefer, louis schaefer you can google mean twitter, google me. i mean twitter, twitter . twitter. >> i mean, what are we for here ' 7 m. again? >> sorry about that. sorry about that. sorry but but it basically says that sitcoms reveal culture that contributed to brexit vote says historian. they're basically saying that that these sitcoms perhaps influenced the

brexit thing rather than the fact that these sitcoms were in in an era which was different than this. and a lot of people , than this. and a lot of people, a lot of british people don't like europe. >> and it's true, though. but those sitcoms, the ones they mention , ello, ello and dad's mention, ello, ello and dad's army in particular, and fawlty towers, thought a bit towers, i thought that was a bit off those first two, off beam. but those first two, they massive 60s and they were massive in the 60s and 70s. they were nostalgic. they were looking war, were looking back to the war, maybe allo made it into the maybe allo allo made it into the 90s. was certainly over 90s. it was certainly all over by of the century and by the turn of the century and there suggestion were there was no suggestion we were going brexit in 1994 going to have brexit in 1994 when allo allo was its when allo allo was at its height, indeed and height, or indeed only fools and horses mean, it's tenuous. horses so i mean, it's tenuous. i think. >> oh yeah. and dad's army was before vote. yeah. so before the 1970s vote. yeah. so that way. and that goes either way. yeah. and they the with they missed the point with fawlty famous clip fawlty towers, the famous clip that about in some of that they talk about in some of the articles. the i didn't vote for but we're in. for it myself, but now we're in. i make best of it. i want to make the best of it. we're at basil in. we're laughing at basil in. yeah, not. not yeah, we're not. that's not saying taking the saying that's not taking the temperature does he temperature of the he does he does and forth. does swing back and forth. >> he is generally a figure that you is out his depth. >> he is generally a figure that you a, is out his depth. >> he is generally a figure that you a, he's s out his depth. >> he is generally a figure that you a, he's a out his depth. >> he is generally a figure that you a, he's a little his depth. >> he is generally a figure that you a, he's a little snobiepth. he's a, he's a little snob desperately trying social desperately trying to social climb but on the

climb and so on. but on the other he occasionally says other hand he occasionally says things you and perhaps you things that you and perhaps you know waiter barcelona know the waiter from barcelona is sustained a head injury >> he's sustained a head injury by this stage that is true. >> you did. did. you invaded >> you did. you did. you invaded poland. that's the but at the end of the day , what this end of the day, what this article and what this guy is trying look for is an trying to look for is an explanation of why the people voted for brexit, because he has such disrespect for people who voted for brexit. >> he thinks they're insane. he can't imagine the people. i didn't vote for him . i can't didn't vote for him. i can't vote, period. but there's always been here's correct in saying there has always been very there has always been a very particular attitude europe, particular attitude to europe, even are pro even among people who are pro well, there was a kind of new breed europe. breed of very pro europe. >> have always felt we >> but we have always felt we don't hate europe, we are don't hate europe, but we are slightly adjacent we're don't hate europe, but we are sligilike adjacent we're don't hate europe, but we are sligilike slightly we're don't hate europe, but we are sligilike slightly off we're don't hate europe, but we are sligilike slightly off to we're don't hate europe, but we are sligilike slightly off to onee just like slightly off to one side. >> el e in europe, e— >> even in europe, it's workable, even in europe, they're adjacent. they're slightly adjacent. the french with the french are not in love with the germans aren't in germans as the germans aren't in love . it's love with the italians. it's like separate like they're all separate countries . of course, britain is countries. of course, britain is not in love with europe. >> most of most of the countries in the eu, i think, felt

tethered to german economic might in a way that britain just didn't didn't like it at all. no anyway, we can't get into solving brexit. staying with the guardian now see potentially good news if not giddily good news here, if not giddily optimistic . optimistic. >> fact, yeah, toyota claims >> in fact, yeah, toyota claims batus breakthrough in potential boost for electric cars. the japanese firm believes it could make solid state batteries with a range of 745 miles. that charge in just ten minutes. with that technology . erg can that technology. erg you can make usable . well, make apple phones usable. well, and they say it's a technological breakthrough. it will improve the weight and the charging speed is an important one. they don't go into details of solid state works of how this solid state works because that otherwise would have many four have made one on how many four year congo children are year old congo children are required be plummeted into year old congo children are requirto be plummeted into year old congo children are requirto getie plummeted into year old congo children are requirto get the .ummeted into year old congo children are requirto get the stuff. ated into year old congo children are requirto get the stuff. at do into wells to get the stuff. i do think people seem to have an issue electric because think people seem to have an issue are electric because think people seem to have an issue are linked ric because think people seem to have an issue are linked to because think people seem to have an issue are linked to eco because think people seem to have an issueare linked to eco aukus,e they are linked to eco aukus, whereas when we were growing up, you the jetsons. i just you watched the jetsons. i just presume future electric cdl’s. >> cars. >> oh, i'm all up for but >> oh, i'm all up for it. but i mean, i live in brighton and hove. this before, hove. i've said this before, the, you know, charging the, you know, the charging facilities are absolutely laughable. you might as well

literally own literally try and own your own dirigible something for the dirigible or something for the available that they available mass that they have. you they've create you know, they've got to create the opportunity to actually use them. know, and that's got them. you know, and that's got to so this to be ramped up. so maybe this will to be ramped up. so maybe this wilino, this is of those >> no, this is one of those stories. coulda, shoulda, woulda, the word is, woulda, whatever the word is, could firm believes could japanese us firm believes it could i'm just it could. i could too. i'm just telling you that i could make a solid state battery that's going to last twice. >> it's a nice bit of pr for toyota, at least. suspicious substance. lewis the substance. now, lewis in the metro and it sounds the metro and it sounds like the white have an almost white house have an almost irrational of the stuff. irrational fear of the stuff. >> should >> yes. and they should have irrational that's irrational fear because that's tied much deeper tied to this is a much deeper story. it's a suspicious substance found in white house confirmed to be cocaine. and they say tested. they tested. this is a couple of days ago. they tested it and then they found cocaine in the white house. but i guarantee you, if you tested everywhere, could you tested everywhere, you could find cocaine. >> they say 80% of british banknotes. right when they used to be paper anyway . right. to be paper anyway. right. >> but people to roll them >> but people used to roll them up the truth is, is that it up and the truth is, is that it wasn't anthrax, so they wasn't an anthrax, so they didn't place didn't need to close the place

down. secondly and secondly, down. and secondly and secondly, the important thing was the most important thing was that hunter this is this was basically an attempt to degrade the power of joe biden because the power of joe biden because the democrats want him gone because he's so useless. yeah. and even even the democrats feel this. so he's also been mean to ben wallace as well. >> so i'm really against him now. he wants ursula van der leon to be head of nato leon to be the head of nato instead of ben. bad, bad . out instead of ben. bad, bad. out with out with biden. can't with out with biden. i can't believe cocaine feels believe i think cocaine feels like quite a quaint, old fashioned drug in fashioned drug to find in the white now. all of white house now. i mean, all of these bankers are all on adhd meds, aren't they? yeah, it feels quite old school. >> i'm impressed that the newspaper quite few newspaper took quite a few paragraphs suddenly paragraphs before it suddenly started hunter started shouting about hunter biden. but compare and biden. yeah, but compare and contrast it. there was a thing i can't remember how years can't remember how many years ago, some swabs ago, but they did some swabs around commons and around the house of commons and there cocaine residue there was cocaine residue everywhere. out of the everywhere. oh, four out of the nine they and i'm nine places they tested. and i'm presuming not like four presuming that's not like four of michael of those places where michael gove's yeah, think gove's office. yeah, i think admitted we're allowed to admitted that we're allowed to say aren't we?

admitted that we're allowed to saywell aren't we? admitted that we're allowed to saywell we �*en't we? admitted that we're allowed to saywell we can we? admitted that we're allowed to saywell we can say’ admitted that we're allowed to saywell we can say this that at >> well we can say this that at the anti cocaine world conference they found cocaine . conference they found cocaine. >> it probably does get just about everywhere, but it isn't necessary . i mean it's obviously necessary. i mean it's obviously illegal and i'm not kind of like overly trivialising it, but it's not like a drug that's going to make crazy . i not like a drug that's going to make crazy. i mean, make anyone go crazy. i mean, it's always been used in the higher echelons to give people like half of world war ii was fought on on amphetamines. right. know , people work right. you know, people work late hours. >> no , you should take that back >> no, you should take that back because. because according to the hunter biden's the according to hunter biden's desktop, laptop is, he desktop, whatever laptop is, he went crazy, went 172 miles down a highway. oh, yeah. >> no, he goes crazy. he goes crazy. donald trump had it right. the diet coke. right. he had the diet coke. that's want that's the stuff you want anyway. that's all for part three. coming up in the final section, got n—word, section, we've got n—word, apologies, legacy anomalies and eugenic . see you in eugenic policies. see you in a couple of minutes .

welcome back to the headliners for our final segment, independent. now stephen, a word in a government document that is being described as an n—word, though it isn't the n—word, is it? >> it's close in— >> it's close . is it? it's it? >> it's close . is it? it's yeah. >> it's close. is it? it's yeah. so— >> it's close. is it? it's yeah. so rishi sunak condemns n—word slur found in official dwp document at dwp. >> are those all slurs as well? yeah. beep beep and beep face . yeah. beep beep and beep face. >> so it did the independent did some research on this and found this document that referred to black people being of the black people as being of the a it begins with an n some stars endsin it begins with an n some stars ends in a d. it's one that ends in the word roid , isn't it? in the word roid, isn't it? >> it's the one that is means is an old fashioned to describe something that's anthropoid . something that's anthropoid. funnily enough, listening to sorry this keeps popping out. i'm listening to audiobook audible book of the original edgar rice burroughs tarzan stories at the moment, and they

frequently refer to the gorillas whom he's being raised by as anthropoid, which means human man shaped. they are man shaped animals. the word i'd like cuboid spheroid and so on means shaped of a shape. so it is a technically scientific word, but it's one which is dated. it's not a slur in that sense . it was not a slur in that sense. it was a word used in scientific literature. >> but this is not like this document was written ages ago and quotes. >> i'm not i'm not saying it's appropriate. i'm just saying it was never a slur. it wasn't put there in a derogatory way. in there in a derogatory way. in the same way they would say caucasian occidental or, you caucasian or occidental or, you know, there are various other words that have sort of become , words that have sort of become, um, less palatable . um, less palatable. >> yeah. an adjective, i suppose, is what we've got there. scientific origin was written in 2010, though, and even then i think it would have would have seemed out of place . would have seemed out of place. what i like about 2010 is it's just not quite long enough ago. it's blame the previous it's about to blame the previous labour they labour government. i bet they changed. thing is, it changed. but the thing is, it comes it though. comes into it though. >> which generally

>> which is which i am generally having defended is having sort of defended is i cannot the context in cannot imagine the context in which relevant because it's which it's relevant because it's sort of talking almost about a sort of talking almost about a sort . do you sort of like a shape. do you know what i mean? and that's not a it? a thing, is it? >> a document that refers specifically osteoporosis? specifically to osteoporosis? how you mention how can you how can you mention skin you're skin colour when you're definitely bones? skin colour when you're def okay, bones? skin colour when you're def okay, well, bones? skin colour when you're def okay, well, let's bones? skin colour when you're def okay, well, let's point1es? skin colour when you're def okay, well, let's point out >> okay, well, let's point out that this incident took place in northern ireland, and i love those people, but they're a little bit weird about that. >> so you're definitely going to get there. you're going to take all of the heat that was coming my way. i think you crossing the pond to your home country. pond now to your home country. if you're not alma mater. lewis, this is harvard, i think. and the mail say legacy admissions are next in the crosshairs. well it's i'm it's interesting because i'm a harvard and a doctor of harvard graduate and a doctor of virology and activist . virology and activist. >> i identify activist lawyers demand harvard ends legacy admissions, as they argue unfairly , that they unfairly unfairly, that they unfairly favour white students . just days favour white students. just days after scotus ended affirmative action and legacy admissions is

if you if your parents went to harvard, then you're as a kid , harvard, then you're as a kid, you get to go to harvard. >> and especially if there's a gym named after them or a rowing team or something. and that's what to what they used to do. >> it's basically 40% of all >> and it's basically 40% of all the basically the students are basically legacy harvard. so it gives a legacy to harvard. so it gives a very and they're all basically 70% of them white. of 70% of them are white. of course, it's not. >> not. how many did you >> it's not. how many did you say it says, according to the 70% of all legacy applicants are white. yeah, but how many of all applicants are legacy? not very many, i don't think. i think it's sort of i think 8 or 10% or something like that. i don't think they said they only think yeah, they said they only have half% right. okay >> yeah. no, 28% of the class were legacies. really? yes. 28. okay >> that is a big deal then. but can i point out the most important thing is that harvard is a private institution. >> reason they're >> and the only reason they're making a big deal about this is because it government because is it takes government money and because the government passes out money, they think they people to do. they can tell people what to do. it's that schools is

it's about time that schools is stop taking government money and let them do it. and they just let them do it. and they just let them do it. and they just let them what they want to do. >> i would vote for that. >> i would again vote for that. we're the same team that we're on the same team on that one. over to the one. again, over to the independent never independent now, steve. never mind, miles. elon musk offers more that he more tantalising hints that he is to repopulate earth . is ready to repopulate earth. >> elon musk supports eliminating voting rights for people without children . does he people without children. does he or he winding people up? or is he winding people up? let's read on over the weekend, elon musk appeared on twitter , elon musk appeared on twitter, so already like that's so already it looks like that's the troll the place you go to troll people. yeah and because people. yeah he and it's because he replied to a tweet with a word. yup. yeah it's not the most committal ever seen most committal i've ever seen anyone. >> exactly how germany >> this is exactly how germany started . yeah, and the next started. yeah, and the next thing. alfred rosenberg. yep yep. well, i mean, i think it is quite interesting because he has spoken in the past and this is the that the independent the one that the independent unked has linked to jacobin on. he has spoken in the past on the idea that people are having that smart people are not having so and this is the so many kids. and this is the thing whole thing people have written whole books is books about this, that there is a nowadays for smart a tendency nowadays for smart men marry smart women and men to marry smart women and they want long they both want to have long careers. they both maybe try and sneak last orders, sneak one in before last orders,

but they don't have large families used to families like they used to anymore. idea is iq anymore. and the idea is iq hereditary or is it just a roll of the dice? well, there's a certain amount of evidence to suggest that smart families have smart kids and we could use some of those, and he's in favour of that. i don't think that's what he's talking about because he has said many times he has said that biggest is, depopulation. >> rate of >> children, is the rate of population is going down and we're not going to have enough people pay. louis schafer's people to pay. louis schafer's double pensions. he just double pensions. so he just wants people on this, wants more people on this, though did once say that not though he did once say that not having people could be having enough people could be the biggest problem that humanity faces. >> also said the biggest >> he's also said the biggest threat that humanity faces is al and a spare planet to threat that humanity faces is al an> well, whales should not be eating shrimp and it's like gout for them, right isn't it. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it's like they shouldn't just as we humans should not be

eating carbohydrates. we shouldn't be eating plant material. some eaters material. and some plant eaters should eating meat. and should not be eating meat. and that's this but the that's what this is. but the upside of it is that it creates ambergris, which is an amazing substance for perfume. have you ever simon it ever smelled it? simon it actually is not that smelly, apparently. what is it carries it >> what it does is it carries it allows perfume, good perfume to unger allows perfume, good perfume to linger . yeah, that's what linger longer. yeah, that's what it does. >> you might have some ambergris building up you, by building up in you, though, by the because it it the sounds of it, because it it caused a problem for one. caused a problem for this one. the went down the pathologist who went down there might be there thought there might be something wrong with the stomach. said, i went stomach. so he said, i went went to animal's colon. to look at the animal's colon. it's a too soon, it? it's a bit too soon, isn't it? yeah. check the mouth first is a bit but he's got half a bit keen, but he's got half a million, nine kilograms. bit keen, but he's got half a milion, nine kilograms. bit keen, but he's got half a mill mean1e kilograms. bit keen, but he's got half a mill mean that'sgrams. more >> i mean that's probably more than weight in gold. than worth its weight in gold. right. kilograms. right. nine kilograms. i don't know. must be on for know. it must be getting on for it. is nearly it. anyway, the show is nearly oven it. anyway, the show is nearly over. take another over. let's take another quick look wednesday's pages look at wednesday's front pages of boris of the daily mail. boris partygate faces his own partygate accuser faces his own police the uk sorry, the police probe. the uk sorry, the guardian uk ready to drop £11.6 billion pledge for climate fund financial times. the bank of england considers forcing foreign banks to replace branches with subsidiaries. the

daily express say that cheaper food is on the way as price war finally hots up the mirror. have the sad news from fiona phillips that she has alzheimer's. the daily star. i shall say this only once. ella whelan calls brexit. those were your front pages. that's all we have time for. thank you to my guests, steven allen and schaffer. steven allen and louis schaffer. we're p.m. we're back tomorrow at 11 pm. where steve will be joined by louis liu aukus and diane spencen louis liu aukus and diane spencer. if you're watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. a.m, stay tuned for breakfast. otherwise you. good night otherwise thank you. good night

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the prestigious tric awards. hello >> good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation. tonight a waxen wings of woke corporations are melting as they fly too close to the sun, along with the news that the majority of high street banks are signed up to stonewall linked diversity initiative as the and mighty unilever has the high and mighty unilever has been accused of being an international sponsor of war by the ukrainian government in spite of repeated electoral mandates. mass migration is at record highs, but a new tory ginger group claims to have a plan that could restore public trust for the next election fast evening to you. will. the top story for|ight is that the evening to you. will. the top story for the: is that the evening to you. will. the top story for the next1at the evening to you. will. the top story for the next election fast approaching. perhaps their views trust for the next election fast approaching. perhaps their views could help the prime minister could help the prime minister boost confidence in the boost confidence in the government either ulez government either ulez government and it's either ulez or you lose. for the mayor of government and it's either ulez or you lose. for the mayor of london, as five london councils london, as five london councils take him high court over take him high court over take him to the high court over his controversial low emissions take him to the high court over his controversial low emissions expansion. well, vox populi vox expansion. well, vox populi vox day, we asked the people whose day, we asked the people whose side they were on. and here's a side they were on. and here's a taste of what they to say. taste of what they to say. taste of what they had to say. >> not all down to parse . taste of what they had to say. >> not all down to parse . >> it's not all down to parse. you know, we're going to stop >> it's not all down to parse. you know, we're going to stop

playing soon, are we? is that playing soon, are we? is that the next story class in a not the next story class in a not necessarily fortunate necessarily fortunate coincidence for the prime coincidence for the prime minister minister >> six months on from his five >> six months on from his five key pledges, his conservative key pledges, his conservative home approval rating dropped home approval rating dropped into negative territory for the into negative territory first time as inflation appears to be entrenched and the court of appeal has blocked the rwanda scheme. government on scheme. is the government on track through with its track to follow through with its promises ? us of nation promises? us state of the nation starts now . starts now. joined by a pugnacious panel this evening, former brexit party mep ben habib and the author and broadcaster michael crick. as ever, i want to hear from you. it's the most important part of the programme. email me mail mog at gb news .com. now it's time the .com. but now it's time for the news middlehurst . news with polly middlehurst. >> jacob thank you and good evening to you. will. the top

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