7 purpose? >> and don't don't kill cash to people's charities. fighting to save the pound in your pocket and stop financial exclusion. we've received over we've already received over 88,000 signatures for our petition , so sign up on our petition, so sign up on our website at gb news .com forward slash cash . slash cash. >> and a very sad story concerning the legendary broadcaster fiona phillips and her fight with alzheimer's at the age of just 62. fiona says that she's trialling a new drug which may slow or reverse the condition . and we're going to be condition. and we're going to be looking at alzheimer's and how it affects entire families . and it affects entire families. and we wish you all the best. fiona >> a terrible far too young, isn't it? and scotland today marks the coronation of the king and queen in what's going to be and queen in what's going to be a stunning service of thanksgiving at saint giles cathedral in edinburgh. stay tuned gb news bring you tuned to gb news to bring you all updates throughout the all the updates throughout the day north of border .

day from north of the border. >> i would love to be in scotland this morning. >> pomp and pageantry at its best. they have. they had a separate coronation in 1953. there was some criticism of it, actually, because the queen was dressed in civvies and she wasn't in all her regalia. so i think and camilla will think charles and camilla will be queen will be, i be the king and queen will be, i think, a little more interesting keeping taking it seriously. and the are involved . the jewels that are involved. it's oldest crown in the it's the oldest crown in the oldest crown in the crown jewels . 1540. wow amazing. so we'll be there for that . oh, we will. and there for that. oh, we will. and also, we're going to be talking about alzheimer's because that's about alzheimer's because that's a hugely important. i've a hugely important. so i've known 20 known fiona phillips for 20 years. she's terrific woman, years. she's a terrific woman, terrific terrific terrific journalist, terrific presenter . terrific journalist, terrific presenter. and she found out 18 months she's got months ago she's got alzheimer's. oh it's awful. months ago she's got alz and er's. oh it's awful. months ago she's got alz and in s. oh it's awful. months ago she's got alz and in fact, it's awful. months ago she's got alz and in fact, she'swful. months ago she's got alz and in fact, she's married to >> and in fact, she's married to martin who is the martin frizell, who is the editor of this morning. he was obviously embroiled in the whole phillip schofield story. none of us behind scenes. he us knew behind the scenes. he was with all of was also dealing with all of that well. that as well. >> parents, of course, >> her parents, of course, died of dementia, so we'll bring of dementia, too. so we'll bring you on that. but the top you later on that. but the top story this morning is, of course, nhs. it is 75 years

course, the nhs. it is 75 years old today. the health secretary, stephen barclay has written about it's now time for about whether it's now time for evolution rather than revolution i >> -- >> but as we celebrate the nhs today , as it turns 75, we're today, as it turns 75, we're also asking if it's fit for purpose three main health think tanks have warned that the nhs won't make it to its 100th birthday without support , and birthday without support, and tony blair has been talking about two of which would be more later now. >> gb news deputy political editor tom harwood been editor tom harwood has been looking back at the institution's colourful history i >> -- >> i've been asked to tell you just a little about this new plan better health. our plan plan for better health. our plan is a service which will provide the best medical advice and treatment for everyone. every man, woman and child in this country . country. >> these were the words of conservative health minister henry willink speaking in 1944, announcing his plans for what would become the nhs , his 1944 would become the nhs, his 1944 white paper was the blueprint

for the national health service i >> -- >> mr lam >> mr aneurin bevan but it was an iron bevan the labour minister for health who brought the nhs into existence in july 1948 under bevan. >> the reach of the state stretched further than the original conservative plans . original conservative plans. care was not only to be paid for by the taxpayer, but hospitals themselves were nationalised too. health care professionals became government employees. the nhs quickly became a cherished national institution. but the course was not always smooth . course was not always smooth. prescription charges were introduced in 1952 after the cost of the service. unexpec rapidly began to grow. the ensuing decades saw the nhs buffeted by various political winds. the conservative years under thatcher and major introduced internal markets, attempting to increase efficiency under blair's labour government . these reforms were government. these reforms were built upon aided by significant injections of funding into the service. the new funding smoothed the path to a drive of

modernisation , patient choice modernisation, patient choice and public private partnerships . blair's devolution agenda also saw the scotland act and the government of wales act give devolved bodies powers to legislate on a range of issues, including health leading to greater divergence in health policy across the uk . yet in the policy across the uk. yet in the backdrop of the 2008 financial crash , the budget balancing crash, the budget balancing measures of david cameron's coalition government led to smaller real terms increases in budgets than occurred under labour and a controversial reorganisation under the health and social care act of 2012, creating clinical commissioning groups and increasing competition in service provision. the past decade brought with it unpressed dented challenges. the nhs handling of the covid 19 pandemic under bofis the covid 19 pandemic under boris johnson's government, too many displayed its resilience and adaptability to others. it exposed shortcomings as frontline staff faced

overwhelming pressure. yet they rose to the challenge, embodying the spirit of the service envisaged 75 years ago. today the nhs budget has never been higher. yet waiting lists and patient care face significant strains. the cost of the service has risen by 50% in real terms when compared to 2009. as we celebrate the 75th anniversary of the nhs , the debate continues of the nhs, the debate continues on how to sustainably fund and manage this british institution with an ageing population , new with an ageing population, new medical innovations and a consequently ballooning budget . consequently ballooning budget. but questions remain as to what the nhs will look like after another 75 years as tom harwood . gb news. >> so joining us now is our deputy political editor tom harwood from saint barts hospital in london, the oldest hospital in uk. good hospital in the uk. good morning, date that morning, tom. it's a date that we like celebrating because

we feel like celebrating because it remarkable and is it is remarkable and it is a world in terms of free world leader in terms of free health care for everyone. but it has never been a more has never been in a more desperate state than it is today. just speak to anybody who's used nhs. everybody who's used the nhs. everybody has . where are we at has complaints. where are we at with it in 2023? do you get a clear vision of what each political party would do ? yes political party would do? yes >> it's an interesting position, isn't it? 75 years ago, the plan for the nhs was that it wouldn't be a big financial burden. the original idea was that given comprehensive, universal coverage for health care, the cost would actually come down as people led healthier lives and we had a less sick society . we had a less sick society. well, that's quickly did not turn out to be the case. the costs kept rising and rising . costs kept rising and rising. and then back in 1952, only a few years into the establishment of the nhs , prescription charges of the nhs, prescription charges were introduced and other measures were were introduced. whether it was tax raising and

all the rest of it to pay for a more and more expensive live service and still there are huge, huge strains on this service as we've seen expanding, waiting lists, as we've seen people not getting the same level as care that they would get in, perhaps some other european countries, despite similar levels of funding now. so there are some there are some huge challenges for the nhs as it stands, 75 years since its inception, and yet politicians always tend to dance around the edges of this big question of how might it be reformed. it's interesting, you mentioned not so long ago tony blair wading into this discussion. also sajid javid saying much the same thing. the idea of some sort of royal commission to compare how we fundamentally run the nhs in the united kingdom compared to other universal systems of health care on the continent. for example , all. and yet it's for example, all. and yet it's interesting , the politicians who interesting, the politicians who say this tend to be politicians

who have left their jobs sajid javid standing down at the next election . a former member of the election. a former member of the cabinet rather than a current one. and of course, tony blair, long since, has been since he was prime minister. it tends to be that politicians who are in power as things stand, are very wary of big fundamental questions about how the nhs is run . run. >> tony blair has sparked some controversy , particularly for controversy, particularly for labour mps, because he's written an article about demanding brave political leadership. but six times in that article he's talked about an expanded role for the private sector, something that was streeting, who's doing the shadow health secretary job has already ruled out this morning . out this morning. >> yes, it's interesting. wes streeting seems to have been backwards and forwards on this issue. he has said in the past that a role for bringing in private provision to fill in the gaps or reduce waiting lists would be acceptable for him. so it's interesting to hear him

slightly row back from that position today. but it is true that the role of the private sector was expanded under the new labour government, although in this discussion it does tend to be that sort of conspiracy creeps into the conversation when we're talking about the role of the private sector. no one is talking about anyone being charged for health care. this is simply who this is simply about who provides that health care. there are all sorts of scary graphs about how much . quote unquote, about how much. quote unquote, private provision is there within the nhs and how it's crept up from sort of 3% to sort of 8% in recent years. that includes, for example , getting includes, for example, getting includes, for example, getting in cleaning firms that aren't nhs employees but are contractors. it doesn't seem like that is a particularly unwise thing to do. there are many ways in which efficiencies could be drawn through that and indeed there are other countries around the world that do deliver their health care much more in that way , where the state funds that way, where the state funds the health care, but the private sector delivers it. that is the

case in lots of other countries, although i'm not sure that anyone is suggesting we go for a full 100% privately provided state funded option, as some countries lean towards no one has really spelled out in great, great detail the reforms that they would like to see to the nhs. the furthest that we've seen people go is talking in more abstract terms or in the process . yes, they would like to process. yes, they would like to see whether it is the sajid javid's idea of a royal commission for example, or talking about learning from other systems as well. it does seem that now there is a greater sense of conversation around what we could learn from other countries as back in 1948, 75 years ago, the uk was not unique but very rare in the world in terms of delivering universal health care. it was only prussia and norway that had got there before . for the united kingdom, before. for the united kingdom, these days , most developed these days, most developed countries in the world, with the notable exception of the united states of america, deliver some

form or other of universal health care. so there are lots of different models of how this universal access to health care is delivered around the world now. and there are some voices saying those are models from which could learn , although which we could learn, although it that both the it does seem that both the government the labour party government and the labour party are wary of wading into that conversation . conversation. >> tom harwood our deputy political editor from saint bans. political editor from saint barts . there's also, of course, barts. there's also, of course, a major a big service today at westminster abbey to mark the 70th anniversary where some people who were some of the first people to ever work in the nhs will be taking part. you know, i just sorry, what tony blair also is looking into is tech tony blair's solution to everything. >> he's such a technocrat is about he's about an app having an app with all your nhs information on it. and again, it's a bit like we were talking about and it does transition into liam halligan, who sat here with us, transitions into this technological society which is leaving people behind because of course a lot of course there'll be a lot of elderly people who don't necessarily have the latest

smartphone to put all their health or might not health records on or might not have a smartphone at all. >> yeah, and the idea of an app because were about an because we were talking about an app because we were talking about an app you have to app yesterday, you have to increasingly apps to park increasingly use apps to park your yeah which your blimming car. yeah which bnngs your blimming car. yeah which brings to don't rid of brings us on to don't get rid of cash here's liam halligan. cash in. here's liam halligan. >> don't kill cash exactly this campaign the gb campaign this indeed is the gb news launched it news campaign we launched it yesterday morning . we think yesterday morning. we think a lot of people vulnerable lot of people are vulnerable because cash being phased because cash is being phased out. so we're asking people to sign our petition and already our petition is up 87, 88,000 signatures. if we get to 100,000 signatures, then we can start applying for debates in parliament. yes. so on. and the extent to which cash is being phased out really is quite incredible . in 2012, 60% of incredible. in 2012, 60% of transactions were still in cash and now it's just 30% of transactions at this pace by 2035, there's going to be no cash whatsoever. and at the same time, the number of atms has

fallen by 2,025% since 2018. and there's a lot of older people in particular who need the cash. they haven't got smartphones . they haven't got smartphones. they haven't got smartphones. they want to use cash and also, if everything is not cash, if everything's bank transfers , everything's bank transfers, everything's bank transfers, every single transaction we do can be monitored by banks and therefore potentially by the state. and a lot of people are concerned about that as well. >> so it's like a surveillance society. >> well, you know, you've got this sense of what's called surveillance capitalism , that we surveillance capitalism, that we are the product. everything we do online, everything buy, do online, everything we buy, everywhere monitored. everywhere we go is monitored. and information and then that information can be sold parties who want sold to third parties who want to, know, bombard us with to, you know, bombard us with tailored adverts to flog us stuff using money that we've got to given that there's to borrow. given that there's a cost of living crisis. so this is why gb news has launched this campaign, it seems as if campaign, and it seems as if this really resonating with this is really resonating with our readers, viewers, listeners . it's an online campaign as well. so get on gb news dot com forward slash cash and you can sign that petition to the thing

i remember as a child being introduced to cash with my pocket money, you get very much piggy pocket money, you get very much piggy bank. >> and little tiny >> yeah and we had little tiny safe with with with a combination code red plastic one. yeah proud of it. didn't parents still give children cash for pocket money. they do. >> certainly. older people. the culture from know some culture i'm from you know some some old guy in the pub would just slip you slip your quid or slip a fiver because you slip you a fiver because you were the kid of a friend. it's a way of bringing people together . we lose physical cash, . and if we lose physical cash, we much, don't we? we we lose so much, don't we? we lose, you know, where's where's my £20 in my birthday card? i want to tip that busker because that piece of music while i was walking through the town centre really resonated with me. i want to give kyiv £5 to this waitress tonight because she's done a great job and i want to make sure that she gets the £5, not the restaurant owner. if it goes through the books. so it is a privacy thing. it's a culture thing. and yet there are huge vested interest outs who want to get rid of cash. all the

businesses, the cash handling costs and so on. >> liam, aren't you surprised by how little the debate been how little the debate has been had around moving towards a cashless society ? cashless society? >> i am, and that's why we're trying to do something about it here, remember during trying to do something about it herepandemic remember during trying to do something about it herepandemic when ember during trying to do something about it herepandemic when all)er during trying to do something about it herepandemic when all)erthese] the pandemic when all of these shops had put up little signs, do not take cash, and it was under that it was under the illusion that it was the virus could be transmitted by fomites on surfaces, as the government quickly by fomites on surfaces, as the gove it ment quickly by fomites on surfaces, as the goveit wasn't quickly by fomites on surfaces, as the goveit wasn't transmitted. jickly that it wasn't transmitted. >> airborne viruses because >> its airborne viruses because it's virus. but they it's an airborne virus. but they did to disavow us of did nothing to disavow us of that particular misunder standing. and they still haven't because there a lot of because there are a lot of people want this change people who want this change to happen. people who want this change to hapyeah, lot of business >> yeah, a lot of business interests want this change to happen. the tech giants happen. a lot of the tech giants want this to happen so want this change to happen so they everything that they can monitor everything that we a lot governments who we do. a lot of governments who want to know in the states want this because they are this to happen because they are forever suspicious that if forever ever suspicious that if we're using cash, then people aren't the right amount aren't paying the right amount of tax so on. and look, just of tax and so on. and look, just in the last sort of few hours, a story broken that's story has broken that's completely with this completely chimes with this subject that we're we're

discussing now. so the train operating companies, the rail delivery group, the sort of umbrella group for the train operating companies , they are operating companies, they are going to announce today that they're going to close down or they're going to close down or they're proposing to close down almost all ticket offices now , almost all ticket offices now, you know, awful two thirds of railway stations still have ticket offices. if they're closed down. okay. it's a safety thing, right? it's a value for money thing because you can often ask, you know, the people sit in ticket offices. they're really knowledgeable . really knowledgeable. >> you a much cheaper experience. >> want to help you get the >> they want to help you get the best agree. how can you best deal. i agree. how can you get when you're on get the best deal when you're on using app that may be run by using an app that may be run by the train operating company? >> think about >> you can't and think about people coming to this country who from abroad baffling who are from abroad and baffling those those machines. they baffle . baffle me. >> again, this is this is a legacy of covid bev, as you were saying, train saying, because the train companies so much money companies lost so much money dunng companies lost so much money during covid because they were running for some reason, endless ghost trains. what was all that about? empty about? just endless empty trains. i didn't understand why

that was as somebody who, you know, as a journalist, a film maker, documentary maker, i special dispensation, i was allowed the allowed to travel around the country lockdown , making country during lockdown, making films. in fact, i made films. and in fact, i made a couple films about the trains couple of films about the trains dunng couple of films about the trains during lockdown and the kind of craziness of the amount of money they losing. and you've they were losing. and now you've got treasury that wants to got the treasury that wants to cut any government subsidy to the train companies the the train companies and the train saying, all train companies are saying, all right, going have right, then we're going to have to close much all the to close pretty much all the ticket in england. we're ticket offices in england. we're just at just talking about england at the moment. that's going to massively denude our train network, which means it will spiral downwards. yeah. >> passengers will get >> and passengers will get pred >> and passengers will get ripped off as a result. they will. machines are so difficult. >> we've all three of us had our gnpes >> we've all three of us had our gripes, haven't we, with the rail rail unions. but i think on this point exactly this point they are exactly right. desperately need to right. we do desperately need to keep of those keep the majority of those ticket offices open for all kinds of reasons. >> fancy doing it now when >> but fancy doing it now when they're a dispute already they're in a dispute already with that's with the rmt. i mean, that's just going inflame tensions. just going to inflame tensions. it is. is there it is. it is. nobody is there no. joined up thinking.

>> and i think it might have been something. been a leak or something. andrew, we don't in fact, we don't know. the word that don't know. the word is that these proposals going to be these proposals are going to be announced today, but now they might because we're all might not be because we're all focussed they might be focussed on them. they might be released friday afternoon released on a friday afternoon or it's red meat to the unions. >> it's red meat to the unions. absolutely. we've just gone above signatures above 90,000 signatures in our well everybody. well done everybody. >> we've air. >> just while we've been on air. >> just while we've been on air. >> don't cash over 90,000. >> don't kill cash over 90,000. we're within touching distance just to there's a qr code just to say there's a qr code there, is slightly ironic there, which is slightly ironic because smartphone to because you need a smartphone to use , you also use qr code, but you can also absolutely sign the petition . absolutely sign the petition. >> gb news .com forward slash cash. go to that url on the internet . that's the easiest way internet. that's the easiest way to do it. that's the easiest way to do it. that's the easiest way to do it. and it's very it's literally one button and you can fill in your details. >> even i even you even i did it silver surfer that you are or partially silver . silver surfer that you are or partially silver. liam halligan, we love seeing you . you didn't we love seeing you. you didn't give us a graphic another time. >> i'm toying with you. >> i'm toying with you. >> right. thanks, liam . okay, >> right. thanks, liam. okay, now, moving on. scotland will today mark the coronation of

king charles iii with a ceremony at saint giles cathedral in edinburgh. >> he's going to be presented with the crown jewels of scotland proceedings scotland and the proceedings will sword because will include a new sword because the one is literally very the old one is literally very shaky , which to be named shaky, which is to be named after late queen elizabeth ii. >> so let's speak to gb news royal correspondent cameron walker, from walker, who joins us now from edinburgh . what's happening up edinburgh. what's happening up there morning , edinburgh. what's happening up there morning, cameron? there this morning, cameron? lucky being up in the fresh lucky you being up in the fresh air of edinburgh , fresh air and sunshine. >> bev, unlike yesterday , where >> bev, unlike yesterday, where it was a bit of a washout, unfortunately for the royal garden party. but today it's a very historic day here in edinburgh . the barriers are out, edinburgh. the barriers are out, the crowds are starting to gather because it's the first time since 1953 that a british monarch has been presented with the honours of scotland . in the honours of scotland. in other words, the scottish crown jewels 700 members of the armed forces will be in a procession up the royal mile here in edinburgh from the british army. royal air force and royal navy. as well, all led by a shetland

pony who is the mascot of the royal regiment of scotland. there's also going to be a tri service guard of honour who will greet the king, the queen and the prince and princess of wales, who are known as the duke and duchess of rothesay here in scotland . and then there's going scotland. and then there's going to be a service of thanksgiving at saint giles cathedral, where the king will be presented with the crown with the sceptre, and that new sword called elizabeth and the new sword, bearing in mind it's five foot long, 7.5kg. it's very, very heavy . we can it's very, very heavy. we can get. and dame katherine granger , the former olympic gold medallist, she is going to be carrying that sword very similar to what penny mordaunt did dunng to what penny mordaunt did during the coronation service in may day. but the regalia is all being taken from edinburgh castle, which you can see behind me in a people's process. castle, which you can see behind me in a people's process . asian me in a people's process. asian representatives from different groups across scotland , 100 in groups across scotland, 100 in total will be taking part in that people's procession, including nhs scotland, of course, celebrating 75th anniversary today. and the

prince's trust as well . the prince's trust as well. the charity which the king found when he was prince of wales following the service thanksgiving. there's going to be a 21 gun salute at at from edinburgh castle and the weather permitting, is looking promising so far, but the red arrows are going to be flying over edinburgh castle down the royal mile and over the palace of holyroodhouse as well. so lots to look to. not everyone to look forward to. not everyone is though. is very happy, though. the scottish leaders , as we scottish green leaders, as we were discussing yesterday, they have the of have boycotted the service of thanksgiving has the former thanksgiving as has the former snp leader alex salmond. so we'll just have to wait and see just how many protests there are. we are expecting a few and whether or not they are outnumbered by supporters, crowds , i'm crowds and cameron, i'm fascinated by the history of all this because the crown, the scottish crown is, of course, the oldest crown in the crown jewels dating all the way back to 1540. >> and i know it was atop the queen's funeral when she was lying at saint james's lying in state at saint james's cathedral . cathedral. >> yes, scotland had its own

monarchs up until the union of the crowns in 1603, where queen elizabeth, the first of england, died without a son or a daughter, and her cousin was heir to the throne who happened to be james the sixth of scotland. and then he became james, the first of england . but james, the first of england. but as for the scottish crown jewels , they are the oldest in the british isles because the ones which kept in the tower of which are kept in the tower of london, they were made for king charles coronation because the old melted down old ones were melted down following the english war. following the english civil war. but sceptre was a gift from but the sceptre was a gift from james, from pope james, the fourth from pope alexander the sixth, the sword of state the very one, of state to the very old one, which longer in use which is no longer in use because it's too fragile. that was another gift to james the fourth the crown was fourth as well. the crown was refashioned into its current form in 1543. that's how old we are talking here by an edinburgh goldsmith whose name was john mossman. so it's clearly got a lot of history here and that crown was used in the coronation of mary, queen of scots and james vi of scotland . charles

james vi of scotland. charles the first and charles the second as well. and then, of course, it was presented to queen elizabeth iidunng was presented to queen elizabeth ii during that service of thanksgiving back in 1953. and since 1999, it's been possessed to the opening of the scottish parliament as well. so a lot of history associated with it . history associated with it. >> absolutely. that's cameron walker who we'll be back with him later in program. him later in the program. cameron walker in edinburgh for the coronation scotland of the coronation in scotland of the coronation in scotland of the and queen. that crown the king and queen. that crown was queen scots the king and queen. that crown wa her queen scots the king and queen. that crown wa her coronation queen scots the king and queen. that crown wa her coronation you sen scots the king and queen. that crown wa her coronation you know scots the king and queen. that crown wa her coronation you know what; at her coronation you know what happened to her a few years later? ba.2 her chopped later? ba.2 her head was chopped off orders of elizabeth. off on the orders of elizabeth. the first here amazing story in the papers today. >> we're going to have stephen pound and emma webb are going to be here in a moment. and the story of sir captain tom. remember him? all that money dunng remember him? all that money during well, during lockdown? well, his family a £12 million family built a £12 million swimming pool in the back garden. they're going garden. and now they're going to pull down. want to pull it down. you don't want to go anywhere. you want to hear the of this is gb the details of that. this is gb news. hello >> morning to you. >> very good morning to you. it's mcgivern from it's aidan mcgivern here from the the gb news

the met office with the gb news forecast for wednesday. a bright start for many us, but cloud start for many of us, but cloud is already building, especially towards the north the west, towards the north and the west, and see a scattering and we'll see a scattering showers by the afternoon. however that however the wet weather that many southern parts of the uk experienced yesterday, that's well on its way into the low countries, along with a strengthening could strengthening wind gales could cause disruption for the netherlands and germany during the day. but across the uk actually the weather settles down as that system clears through, there'll be a lot of cloud, some glimmers of cloud, but some glimmers of sunlight coming at times sunlight coming through at times and there'll also be a scattering of showers . these scattering of showers. these will hit and miss at some will be hit and miss at some places avoid them and stay places will avoid them and stay dry. do dry. but where the showers do occur, there be quite occur, there could be quite heavy. otherwise where we avoid the temperatures the showers, temperatures comfortably reaching 22 or 23 celsius the and celsius in the south and south—east, 17 to 19 across scotland. northern ireland and northern england, which actually is about bang on average for the time of year, then into the evening, we're going to see the showers fade away in most places, but not everywhere. there will still be some showers across western scotland, 1 or 2

for northern ireland north for northern ireland and north wales, example, best chance wales, for example, best chance of and weather towards of dry and clear weather towards the south—east however, most places keep temperatures in places will keep temperatures in the double figures 11 to 14 celsius. as we begin thursday. thursday starts off with some sunshine eastern scotland, for example, the northern isles, the midlands, east anglia and the south seeing some decent blue skies. first thing the cloud will develop though, and by lunchtime i think it is mostly cloudy out there. that cloud giving a few showers once again for scotland, northern england and north wales. but northern ireland turns wetter the ireland turns wetter by the afternoon some afternoon with some strengthening winds from the south. celsius here, 21 or 22 south. 18 celsius here, 21 or 22 celsius towards the south—east. that wetter and windier weather pushes into scotland on friday, turns more showery whilst england and wales turn drier , england and wales turn drier, sunnier and warmer. with temperatures approaching 30 celsius by the start of the weekend in the southeast

good morning. it's 10:00 good morning. it's10:oo on wednesday, the 5th of july. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with bev turner and andrew pierce and a very happy birthday to the nhs. to the n hs. >> to the nhs. >> it's 75 years old today. we're going to take a close look at the nhs through the ages and asking is it still fit for purpose? let us know your experiences, won't you? >> on that? also, don't kill cash. the people's channel is fighting to save the pound in your pocket and stop financial exclusion. we have received over

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was your decision to make gbviews@gbnews.com is the email address. we've got howard cox coming in as well, haven't we? >> we have to talk about the court case to try and stop the expansion of the ultra low emission london. let me emission zone in london. let me tell they use ultra low tell you, they use ultra low emission zones are coming to towns all over england. >> they really are. but first of all, here your news with all, here is your news with tamsin . tamsin roberts. >> bev, thanks very much and good morning from the gb newsroom. it's 10:01 as the good morning from the gb newsroom. it's10:o1 as the nhs celebrates its 25th anniversary, labouris celebrates its 25th anniversary, labour is warning the service will die without further investment and modernising action. around 7.4 million people are on nhs waiting lists and the government has acknowledged that the figure could get worse before it gets better. it comes as a yougov poll shows 1 in 3 people across the country have found it difficult to access services. shadow health secretary wes streeting says the nhs is facing the worst crisis in its history and people who can't afford to

go private are being left behind deeply angry about the two tier system we have in our country today, where those who can afford it are paying to go private and those who can't afford being left behind i >> -- >> my hm >> my answer would be in the short term, where there is spare capacity in the private sector, we should be paying for it on nhs terms so that people who can't afford it are getting it free at the point of use. that would be my answer. i've got no objection to using private sector capacity to get nhs waiting lists down faster for health minister maria caulfield, who is also a nurse, says strike action is putting more pressure on the service . on the service. >> as although we've got more people on the waiting list, the waiting times are coming down and i think for most people who are waiting for an operation or are waiting for an operation or a procedure, long they wait. >> not who else is on that waiting list. and we've eliminated year wait. eliminated the two year wait. we've eliminated the we've virtually eliminated the 18 and we're now 18 month wait and we're now working on those who are waiting for so it's really for a year. so it's really important that we do that. and

strike action doesn't help , to strike action doesn't help, to be honest. it does mean that procedure and operations are often cancelled. so that's why we want the unions to we do want the unions to come round table try and round the table and try and resolve for patients. resolve that for patients. meanwhile the prince and princess of wales surprised nhs staff by dropping in for a tea party at a hospital. >> william and kate helped lay tables at a reception at saint thomas's hospital to celebrate the nhs. 75th anniversary. the royals met guests, including aneira thomas, the first baby born on the nhs , named after nhs born on the nhs, named after nhs founder kyiv aneurin bevan. it was hosted by nhs charities together, which the prince and princess are patrons of . the princess are patrons of. the metropolitan police have reopened an investigation into potential covid breaches at pandemic era party parties at tory headquarters. police are reopening their investigation into the jingle and mingle lockdown party at conservative party hq on the 8th of december

2020, which tory mp sir bernard jenkin is said to have attended. sir bernard has responded in a statement yesterday saying it's not appropriate to comment on a continuing investigation. the met says new evidence have prompted them to look into a second event held at conservative hq on december the 14th, 2020. faith leaders call for a just and compassionate asylum policy . the archbishops asylum policy. the archbishops of canterbury and york are renewing their calls for the government to change its illegal migration bill. in a letter to the times newspaper, according to faith leaders, the legislation falls short of our obugafion legislation falls short of our obligation towards the most vulnerable, and they say that we need an alternative approach that reflects the country's history , values and history, values and responsibility . students and responsibility. students and parents face more disruptions today as schools in england face closure , as teachers walk out closure, as teachers walk out again over pay and conditions as well as lessons. end of term

events like school trips and sports day are predicted to face disruption. strike teachers will march in westminster before taking part in a rally in parliament square this afternoon. it's the seventh day individual schools in england have faced walkouts by national education union teacher members . this year, members of the new will also walk out this friday. the rise of artificial intelligence is the most profound shift in technology, according to a new report by google. the tech giant says ai has the power to turbocharge uk productivity and has the potential to boost britain's economy by £400 billion. google backed the need for regulation of emerging technology , but of emerging technology, but stressed it should be a nuanced approach to not stop innovation in the field . prisons in england in the field. prisons in england and wales are reaching breaking point. the conservative chairman of the justice committee has warned. sir bob neill said that there are real issues with

prison officer recruitment, retention and low morale warning of a potential powder keg for the future. he urged ministers to prioritise and increase their efforts in prison capacity and overcrowding . the quality of the overcrowding. the quality of the prison estate , prison and prison estate, prison and probation workforce shortages and also the youth custody estate . the king will be present estate. the king will be present at the scottish crown jewels at at the scottish crown jewels at a service in edinburgh to mark the coronation. king charles and queen camilla will be commemorated at saint giles cathedral in edinburgh during the event attended by leading pubuc the event attended by leading public figures and members of a people's procession who will walk through the scottish caphal walk through the scottish capital. the king will receive a crown, a sceptre and a sword made of gold , silver and gems made of gold, silver and gems known collectively as the honours of scotland . this is gb honours of scotland. this is gb news. more headlines from me shortly . now, though, it's back shortly. now, though, it's back to andrew and .

to andrew and. bev >> well, it's the big story of the day. it is the nhs, our national health service. the closest thing i think we have to a national religion. it is 75 years old today . the health years old today. the health secretary, stephen barclay has written article in the times written an article in the times today saying time for an today saying it's time for an evolution in the but ruling evolution in the nhs. but ruling out revolution . out revolution. >> ian so as we celebrate the nhs , it 75, we've also nhs, as it turns 75, we've also been asking is it a fit for purpose anymore ? three main purpose anymore? three main health think tanks have warned that the nhs won't make it to its 100th birthday without support. well i wonder if they're right. >> joining us now is the former health secretary, stephen dorrell. morning to you, stephen. when you when you were health secretary, 95, 96, 97, did you think , look, here we are did you think, look, here we are now what? however many years later the nhs would be in the state it's in because it's pretty bad, isn't it? at the moment? >> well, it's undoubtedly under

huge stress at the moment. that's inescapably true of course, that's at least in part due to the after effects of the pandemic . and it's also not pandemic. and it's also not helped by continuing labour disputes . helped by continuing labour disputes. but the helped by continuing labour disputes . but the leave aside disputes. but the leave aside those two things that were growing waiting lists before the pandemic and there are real issues about access to the health service, whether you're talking about access to the emergency department, use of hospitals, access to gp's , hospitals, access to gp's, access to planned care on waiting lists . there are waiting lists. there are definitely issues, yes . definitely issues, yes. >> and stephen, we're talking about the 75 years ago when the nhs was launched. back then in 1948, the population of this country was closer to 50 million. it's nearer 70 million now. we live a lot longer. we've got far more advanced medicines now. we live a lot longer. we've got technologies|nced medicines now. we live a lot longer. we've got technologies . ced medicines now. we live a lot longer. we've got technologies . the medicines now. we live a lot longer. we've got technologies . the model1es now. we live a lot longer. we've got technologies . the model we and technologies. the model we devised in 1948 isn't really fit for purpose in 2023, is it? >> well, that's where i disagree with you, because we're

celebrating the 75th anniversary of the health service today. actually, the 1st of april this year was the 70th anniversary of the first time a government set up a royal commission because they were worried about the cost of the health service. and you know what? that commission reported that there were pressures on the health service , not unlike the pressures we have today. and as it happens, two of the things that you listed there , andrew, the rising listed there, andrew, the rising cost of medicine and the fact that we're living longer were listed in the guillebeau report of the early 1950s as things that the health service was the best way of addressing. the third thing they mentioned, which is exactly the same issue now, is that of course our expectations are rising and a pubuc expectations are rising and a public service needs to be able to respond to the rising expectations of the population that it serves. >> they also what i've noticed in the last few days, stephen, is hearing politicians talk about this. there seems to be a

growing willingness to have a conversation around personal responsibility . motty now, which responsibility. motty now, which politicians have often shied away from . are you in favour of away from. are you in favour of us having that conversation, particularly around obesity, drinking too much smoking and nobody getting enough exercise ? nobody getting enough exercise? >> well, the answer to that is an unambiguous yes. >> well, the answer to that is an unambiguous yes . what we have an unambiguous yes. what we have to understand is that health is partly about treatments received from the health service, but it's also about our diet, our lifestyle , while the way we live lifestyle, while the way we live and also other public services . and also other public services. it isn't just the nhs which impacts on health outcomes . it's impacts on health outcomes. it's a key issue in social care . it's a key issue in social care. it's relevant in social housing. if other public services don't do the job that they're supposed to do, what tends to happen is that people people become ill when they didn't need to become ill . they didn't need to become ill. and that's, of course, leads to demand on the health service . demand on the health service. >> what do you make of tony

blair's call today? you'll have seen his article. he says no fewer than six times. well, first all, he calls for brave first of all, he calls for brave political leadership. not political leadership. i'm not sure getting on the sure we're getting that on the nhs. but he also calls six times for expand role for for an expand role for the private which has been private sector, which has been ruled out already by wes streeting. health streeting. the labour's health spokesman . spokesman. >> not sure it did >> well, i'm not sure it did rule it out actually, andrew, i just heard a clip on your programme saying that the private sector has always played actually since 1948, a role in the national health service , gp the national health service, gp gp's were set up by aneurin bevan himself as private sector contractors , delivering an nhs contractors, delivering an nhs service . so the nhs has always service. so the nhs has always been a public private partnership and i think the stronger, the stronger for that i >> -- >> it very imam >> it very much feels. steven as though we are already, as you say, inevitably moving towards a two tier system . there are two tier system. there are people that can afford private health care who are jumping to the front of the queue and those

who can't are having to wait for months and sometimes years . so months and sometimes years. so that's one of the most bleak outcomes, isn't it, of the that's one of the most bleak outcomes, isn't it , of the state outcomes, isn't it, of the state of the nhs at the moment? >> i completely agree that that's a very undesirable outcome . um, it was actually outcome. um, it was actually again, it was wes streeting in his clip rather than me that said, we're heading towards a two tier service . i'm said, we're heading towards a two tier service. i'm in said, we're heading towards a two tier service . i'm in favour two tier service. i'm in favour of people being able to spend their own money on their own health care. i don't want to live in a society where you can buy fatty foods and foreign travel, but you can't invest in your own health. that's nonsense. but equally we i want the public services as the nhs, social care and the other public services which impact directly on people's quality of life to be tested against the best that we could reasonably expect from them. giving given the rising expectation that i referred to a few moments ago in my first answer, the perennial argument about money, stephen the tories

will have you will have us believe they're paying in record amounts of money. >> labour say, oh no, they're not. is pouring more money into the nhs the answer? or do we need to think of other solutions to try to get to grips with the great problem about waiting lists ? well it definitely isn't lists? well it definitely isn't the only answer . the only answer. >> you're just tipping money in and standing back and hoping for the best. doesn't work. i completely agree with that , but completely agree with that, but i don't think there is an answer that doesn't involve more money. but can i can i emphasise the point? i think it's the central point? i think it's the central point that the nhs is not a pubuc point that the nhs is not a public service on a on a hill unrelated to other public services around it. if we don't deliver decent housing, people get ill unnecessarily. if we don't deliver social social care, people find themselves themselves relying on the health service when they don't need to. this isn't a matter of party political argument. actually, it's this government that's set up into integrated care boards .

up into integrated care boards. forgive the jargon which are designed to bring these public services together at a local level , and i services together at a local level, and i think that's a step forward . and sometimes ministers forward. and sometimes ministers should ministers should believe in their own policy. this policy was set up 12 months ago. i think it's the right policy, actually. it has cross—party support. wes streeting endorses it. so i think that that's the way forward to have more joined up public services rather than asking yet again the question, asking yet again the question, as i said , that was first asked as i said, that was first asked 70 years ago, can we afford the nhs? the answer is we can. if we ensure that it's kept up to date. >> and what of those three thinktanks who warn if we if there's not not more reform or more money, that there will be no 100th anniversary for the nhs 7 no 100th anniversary for the nhs ? that's a a pretty bleak ? that's a pretty a pretty bleak prediction . prediction. >> uh, well, i totally agree with that. i go back to your introduction that it's as nigel lawson famously said, the closest thing we have to an established church, a national

religion . established church, a national religion. i'd put established church, a national religion . i'd put that actually religion. i'd put that actually more positively . it makes it more positively. it makes it sound almost that's a negative comment. i actually think the national health service is a key expression of values that the vast majority of people in this country share in dorse and think are important . and what we need are important. and what we need to do is to ask ourselves, as tony blair was saying rightly , tony blair was saying rightly, the difficult questions about it's easy enough to make the speech. it's easy enough to make the speech . i've done it hundreds of speech. i've done it hundreds of times . it's speech. i've done it hundreds of times. it's easy enough to make the speech about the values of the speech about the values of the national health service . we the national health service. we have ensure that we deliver have to ensure that we deliver them across range of public them across the range of public services . services. >> that's stephen dorrell , the >> that's stephen dorrell, the former health secretary in john major's government. thanks so much for joining major's government. thanks so much forjoining us. of course, much for joining us. of course, we will be going service we will be going to that service at point westminster at some point at westminster abbey you, offering up abbey to you, offering up prayers and all sorts of people involved in the nhs at very involved in the nhs at the very beginning are to be there. beginning are going to be there. >> don't cash. watch >> i'm on don't kill cash. watch which the moment this is our which at the moment this is our gb news campaign. if you can't do the with the scan in do the thing with the scan in

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led councils have launched legal action over the scheme , planned action over the scheme, planned to cover the whole of london from the end of august. but also it's not just london, is it? >> no, i think they've got one in glasgow derby, bristol and bath. yeah, bath. it's a daily charge of £9. birmingham it's £8. yeah. bristol £9. so this is coming everywhere . and of course coming everywhere. and of course in london £12, 50 across every borough. well howard cox , borough. well howard cox, founder of fairfueluk, is here. you were in court yesterday . you were in court yesterday. how's it going ? how's it going? >> well, it's difficult as you probably appreciate, in these things . they were actually things. they were actually putting out there early arguments. there's only a two day judicial review , so they've day judicial review, so they've got cram in. but it was got to cram a lot in. but it was like watching paint dry, to be honest. i mean, that sort of thing. but it packed out. thing. but it was packed out. a lot of press there. yeah. and but certain things in lot of press there. yeah. and bu�*the certain things in lot of press there. yeah. and bu�*the actualcertain things in lot of press there. yeah. and bu�*the actual conservatives in lot of press there. yeah. and bu�*the actual conservatives who it. the actual conservatives who actually this and actually putting this case and trying to, you know, stop the ulez extension based and let's face is face it, judicial review is based on procedure, not the based on the procedure, not the decision . yeah. so decision itself. yeah. and so what yesterday, what what came out yesterday, there some confusion on on there was some confusion on on

there was some confusion on on the on the side of the conservative councillors lawyers. they actually confuse congestion charge with ulez which got at it by the obviously the defence lawyers of tfl and the defence lawyers of tfl and the a judicial review. >> just to remind people it's about proving irrationality in the decision making. i was involved with the judicial review against the government into pushing the covid vaccine on children and so i know a little bit about this process and what you will have to prove. the conservative councillors of those areas will have to prove is the decision that sadiq is that the decision that sadiq khanis is that the decision that sadiq khan is taking is based on an irrational thinking . the irrational thinking. the evidence is not there to justify the means. isn't it? what are your chances of proving that ? your chances of proving that? >> howard it's well, there's a lot of evidence. for example, last year the public consultation agreement that what went through two out of three disagreed with the ulez being extended . and yeah, 5000 of my extended. and yeah, 5000 of my fairfield supporters actually responded to that public consultation . but their consultation. but their responses was countered by one by sadiq khan and tfl. now that

can't be right. so that's the process. beverly, you're talking aboutin process. beverly, you're talking about in terms of actually the irrationalities, right? but it was it unlawful getting that decision. he can ignore it. he can completely ignore the decision on this thing and go ahead. still, i don't know how it's going to turn out. i'm going back there today and i'll let you know. >> let's ask about >> let's ask you two about petrol. how because you've had a pretty victory. fair pretty important victory. fair fuel been campaigning for fuel uk has been campaigning for i how years i don't know how many years for a watchdog. tell us what's a fuel watchdog. tell us what's happened, because there's a rather good article by you in the it. the sun today about it. >> yeah. thank you for that. yes. five i've been yes. for five years i've been saying that got ofcom. saying that we've got ofcom. we've what we've we've got off. what we've got ofgem price regulator ofgem consumer price regulator bodies industries and bodies for those industries and those never those markets, but we've never had 37 million drivers. had it for 37 million drivers. why and as you well know, petrol and diesel, when oil goes up and the exchange rate changes, there's no there's no any sort of comparison to actually what it means at the pumps and so i've been calling on this for a long time. and every time the priestly, the office of fair trading, which is now the

competition and market authority, have had 4 or 5 inquiries into this and showed and keep saying there's no and they keep saying there's no signs collusion or any signs of any collusion or any cartel management. but now they recognise there is, especially from supermarkets. >> yeah, well we saw that they were overcharging litre and were overcharging 6pa litre and that raising about an extra that was raising about an extra 900 million. and there's a story in, in the papers today, a tesco filling station charging £0.15 a litre more than another petrol filling station 40 miles away. thatis filling station 40 miles away. that is ripping people off. >> yes. and you don't see that with with milk or bread or anything, those sorts of differences might differences you might get a penny here there, but it's penny here and there, but it's absolute. can understand absolute. you can understand certain the state certain because the retail state where are or the where where they are or the where they're garage is, it could be an expensive place to run. they might be all that sort of things. but not that sort of magnitude. you're actually right. andrew and this has been going years. it's been going on for years. it's been pure opportunistic profiteering and blame the and i don't want to blame the retailers it's retailers themselves. it's further fuel supply further up the fuel supply chain. the wholesalers that manipulate with manipulate retailers with very tight and they can't tight contracts and they can't get out of those things and they're will charge

they're told you will charge this though want to this even though they want to charge less. >> i heard john redwood in >> and i heard john redwood in the commons, the tory mp often appears on this program challenging the minister at the despatch what is the despatch box. how what is the tax rate levied on every litre of fuel ? and guess what? the of fuel? and guess what? the minister ducked the answer. you're expert. what is the you're the expert. what is the what are we paying? >> because fuel prices are >> well, because fuel prices are coming you're looking coming down now you're looking at 55% of at around about 55% of everything that goes into the tank and it's 52.9 £0.05 tank is tax and it's 52.9 £0.05 for fuel duty. then there's the vat on the fuel duty. so you pay you vat on fuel duty, you pay vat on the fuel duty, which immoral. i mean, which is immoral. i mean, i that's another one of the campaigning things i want to take up because i think that is wrong. tax attacks. why are wrong. a tax on attacks. why are we that? yeah. we doing that? yeah. >> is your campaign going to >> how is your campaign going to be? mayor howard cox be? london mayor howard cox because standing the because you are standing for the reform party. the conservatives have narrowed it down to two moss hussein and susan. susan hall i can never remember. this is the problem right? hall i can never remember. this is the problem right ? london is the problem right? london mayor be a big mayor needs to be a big character that you instantly know you could be that person. howard thank you. beverly i for

50 years i voted tory and they're very cross with you for not standing for them. you do know that. >> yes, i know very much indeed. but equally, i've had lots of whatsapp messages from senior tories saying, well done, go for it, particularly with it, etcetera, particularly with the the watch the guarding of the pump watch and the. but really, is there anyone with actually a track record? i'm sorry, it sounds big headed. i'm blowing my trumpet, but going do it. go for but i'm going to do it. go for it. in last 13 years, i've it. in the last 13 years, i've stopped £200 billion of stopped £200 billion worth of tax duty. i've now tax rises in fuel duty. i've now got pump watch, etcetera. and what happened is that nigel farage of this, of farage bless him of this, of this at and richard tice this parish at and richard tice approached me and said, you know, we would really like you to stand . and i sat down with my to stand. and i sat down with my wife over a large glass of malbec and we sat down said, malbec and we sat down and said, yeah, this. i'm 68 yeah, let's do this. i'm 68 years i'm going to go years of age. i'm going to go for this and really go for it. >> and of course, one of the campaign you can hit campaign issues you can hit labour on the expansion labour hard on is the expansion of ultra low emission zone, of the ultra low emission zone, because i think going to go because i think it's going to go ahead august come what may, ahead in august come what may, and will be £12.50 on top of

and it will be £12.50 on top of the congestion charge that's going van man, all going to hit white van man, all sorts people into london. >> it's a hurtful tax. it hits a regressive for small regressive tax for small businesses obviously low businesses and obviously low income families. >> and let's not forget income families. >> fines. let's not forget income families. >> fines. howard, not forget income families. >> fines. howard, already|et income families. >> fines. howard, already dodi the fines. howard, already dodi in months had the in the 18 months we've had the ultra low emissions zone in the inner boroughs £400 million, it's a stealth tax. >> well, i've also seen i've been to see a budget in an been privy to see a budget in an excel from the excel spreadsheet from the greater assembly . it's greater london assembly. it's actually budgeting for actually their budgeting for those actually those fines. they've actually got over the next five got it in over the next five years. this is what we're going to get. >> if m who emm- m who don't even >> so if people who don't even know they're in ultra low know they're in the ultra low emission zone are going to get a fine, correct. >> right. >> that's right. so. so why didn't you for the conservatives? >> well, they didn't ask. i'm i've got some great friends, fool of the fool them. a lot of the backbench very close backbench i'm very close to people like robert halfon, who's mr fairfield, you know, for mr fairfield, uk, you know, for the years. i adore the last 13 years. and i adore that he's a great guy. and that man. he's a great guy. and he do it now. he's in his he can't do it now. he's in his job, he an education, but job, he loves an education, but i've got something like 70 backbench tory mps there are backbench tory mps and there are about them. me with about 20 of them. text me with some expletives why are some expletives saying, why are you? >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah.

>> but good luck. i think. i think we respect each other. but i thought, why not? let's do this. >> and what do you think about our campaign about don't don't ditch cash. don't kill cash. >> behind you. right >> i'm right behind you. right behind course i'm behind you. of course i am. i'm an old man. i like a ten bob note. >> so let me let me just say then, howard. >> so if these ulez expansions continue to and you get voted in to be london mayor, would you scrap day one? scrap them on day one? >> right day one, i'm the >> right from day one, i'm the only saying scrap all only candidate saying scrap all ulez across the country, across the country. >> i mean, whatever happens in london is going to go across the country. yeah. yeah >> i'll get rid of low traffic neighbourhoods. i'll get rid of 20 zones, triple 20 mile an hour zones, triple the bobbies and double the number of bobbies and double the number of. >> you'll ruin the planet. >> then you'll ruin the planet. howard planet howard you'll kill the planet with all car fumes. with all your car fumes. >> in the last ten years, emissions have halved london, emissions have halved in london, and the cleanest and we're about the cleanest 21st, cleanest city in the world. that doesn't that's not a headline. this. headline. and it's this. >> i think ulez is a is a real mistake because it's hated by drivers and families who simply can't afford it. >> well, give the

>> well, i'll give you the example of midwife who works >> well, i'll give you the ex saint�* of midwife who works >> well, i'll give you the ex saint thomas'snife who works >> well, i'll give you the ex saint thomas's hospital, norks >> well, i'll give you the ex saint thomas's hospital, who; at saint thomas's hospital, who does over two. she does a shift work over two. she has pay £55. it's has to pay £55. it's a congestion charge and the ulez over two days and only earns over two days and she only earns £80 shift. £80 for that shift. >> and about carers too >> and think about carers too awful. they're not being excluded and people can't also afford car to fit afford to replace the car to fit in the modern compliance in with the modern compliance rules and regulations. it's rules and regulations. so it's going even more. going to cause even more. >> coming out with >> well, i'm coming out with a report alliance of report with the alliance of british and the british drivers and the motorcycle group cradle motorcycle action group cradle to vehicles to grave. electric vehicles through from from through the way from from actually, lithium actually, you get the lithium out all the way to out of the ground all the way to disposing the batteries right at the and believe or not, the end. and believe it or not, evs are not as green as you think they are. >> sure they're not. howard >> i'm sure they're not. howard cox, great man. and cox, you are a great man. and he's got finally the fuel watch dog. good. so finally dog. so that's good. so finally the is brought into the petrol is being brought into line ofcom and ofwat and line with ofcom and ofwat and all the other regulators. well done, all the other regulators. well dor right. to the >> right. still to come, the cops, captain, captain tom foundation has stopped donations as council orders building as the council orders building demolition due to criticism over the daughter building a spar and a swimming pool in a garden

without permission. >> it's all a bit whiffy this, isn't it. >> after your . news thanks very >> after your. news thanks very much, bev. >> here are the headlines at 1030. as the nhs celebrates its 75th anniversary, labour is warning the service will die without further investment and modernisation . around 7.4 modernisation. around 7.4 million people are on nhs waiting lists and the government has acknowledged that the figure could get worse before it gets better. it comes as a yougov poll shows 1 in 3 people across the country have found it difficult to access services . difficult to access services. plans have been revealed to close almost every railway station ticket office in england. the rail delivery group has unveiled a proposal which could lead to nearly all offices being shut down at hundreds of stations . these facilities will stations. these facilities will remain open at the busiest stations, rail operators are

under pressure from the government to save money amid a drop in revenue caused by the pandemic. following a consultation, the government will have the final decision on which offices will be closed . which offices will be closed. teachers in england have walked off the job for the seventh time this year in a row over pay, forcing schools to either close or restrict access to students . or restrict access to students. us union leaders have warned there'll be more strike action in the autumn if a deal can't be reached. members of the national education union are also due to walk out this friday. the king will be presented the scottish crown jewels at a service in edinburgh to mark the coronation. king charles and queen camilla will be commemorated at saint giles cathedral in edinburgh during the event attended by leading pubuc the event attended by leading public figures and members of a people's procession who will walk through the scottish caphal walk through the scottish capital. the king will receive a crown, a sceptre and a sword made of gold, silver and gems known collectively as the honours of scotland . well, you

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radio. and it's 1036 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew fryston bev turner and to update you on our petition , our campaign don't petition, our campaign don't ditch cash . ditch cash. >> we're now over 96,000 signatures. we get to the magic 100,000. we can then start pressing for a debate in the commons because mps have not debated it and cash is disappearing fast without us knowing it. >> bring your mates. knowing it. >> bring your mates you just >> bring your mates if you just sat there at home now, think. do you know what? i'll ring my mum and her to vote. i'll and i'll tell her to vote. i'll ring best or if ring my best friend. or if you've a whatsapp group, you've got a whatsapp group, you're whatsapp group, send you're on a whatsapp group, send out the link gb news .com is the link. easy on there. link. it's dead easy on there.

you through, you put you click through, you put your name you it and you're name and you sign it and you're done. yeah i've done it. >> you've done it. >> you've done it. >> i've done it. yeah >> i've done it. yeah >> halligan is here. gb >> and liam halligan is here. gb news. chennai six. >> com forward slash cash. yeah easy and that's the easy to remember. and that's the easiest you can use that weird qr yeah. qr code, but you qr thing. yeah. qr code, but you need smartphone need a smartphone for that. yeah. news viewers need a smartphone for that. yeailisteners news viewers need a smartphone for that. yeailisteners are news viewers need a smartphone for that. yeailisteners are doing viewers need a smartphone for that. yeailisteners are doing that.rs and listeners are doing that. yeah, but if you are just on the internet, you can use gb news .com forward slash cash. and we are getting box too. so are getting a po. box too. so if want to write in, if people want to write in, that's a very good and add to our petition. but incredible we're and we're at we're 24 hours old and we're at 95,000. is power of 96. 95,000. this is the power of 96. >> 66. >> now 66. >> now 66. >> we want to get to 100,000. while this programme is being aired. while i'm talking. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> now you're here to talk to us about this breaking story, breaking railway. see this? >> this is an example of what i'm about to say of precise, why we trying to save cash. we are trying to save cash. because operating because train operating companies across england, they've proposals they've just announced proposals to close a huge number of ticket offices across the network, which means that people will have to rely on smart phones and

apps and machines , which are apps and machines, which are incredibly complicated to buy tickets, you know, high proportion of british households haven't even got a bank account. they haven't even got debit cards. you can't use cash in almost all train ticket offices, machines . almost all train ticket offices, machines. now, i almost all train ticket offices, machines . now, i know that from machines. now, i know that from my own commuting, i commute in pretty much every day. so let's have a look at what the train operating companies are actually proposing guys, telling proposing, guys, they're telling us and this is literally just been released that pre—pandemic in 2019, 24% of tickets were bought at ticket offices. that's now halved to just 12% of tickets bought at ticket offices. the rest, of course, bought online using apps and from machines. but isn't that because a lot of the ticket offices have since closed? indeed.so offices have since closed? indeed. so it's like a circular argument. exactly. right. argument. yeah, exactly. right. now, saying now, what they're saying is that at the moment, 229 offices are staffed full time. that's 17% of all ticket offices across the country and 708 offices are staffed part time . that's 40. in staffed part time. that's 40. in

other words , 57. well over half other words, 57. well over half getting on for two thirds of ticket offices are currently staffed at. and our understanding is that that's going to be cut to just a handful. and why is this happening? this is happening because the train companies lost so much money during the pandemic . they kept running all pandemic. they kept running all those ghost trains, trains. you know, you literally i'd get on the train, i'd i was able to travel around during the pandemic. i had a special licence as journalist. i was licence as a journalist. i was making making making documentaries, making films we getting gb news films. we were getting gb news together course, in together of course, in the really, really, early really, really, really early days. i used to commute in days. so i used to commute in and sometimes i'd literally have whole carriages to myself . i whole carriages to myself. i mean, it would have been cheaper to fly me into london by magic carpet , you know, than an actual carpet, you know, than an actual train . so this is going to be train. so this is going to be a big deal. the fact that train ticket offices are going to close in no short order and the treasury seems to be backing this because they want to save money public subsidy for our trains. >> isn't going to be red >> isn't this going to be red rag to the ball to the rail

unions who are still in dispute over with drivers still striking train up , the train strikes coming up, the rmt, what's he called ? that guy rmt, what's he called? that guy mick mick lynch mick lynch red rag to the bull. >> the timing of this does seem a bit lacking in strategy. >> yeah, they don't care. >> yeah, they don't care. >> they don't care. liam this is the and this is why this, you know, this is why this campaign is so important. cash isn't just about cash . the ripple effect of about cash. the ripple effect of not having cash, like you say, jobs. not having cash, like you say, jobs . you've got all those jobs. you've got all those people who are currently sat in ticket offices. and i like the fact that there might be a person there, because if my daughter or gets into daughter gets lost or gets into trouble you know, some trouble or, you know, needs some help. i know i've been >> also, i know i've been commuting on the same line commuting in on the same line for 20 years now, and i know for 15, 20 years now, and i know the staff my ticket office the staff at my ticket office and they fantastic and they are fantastic professional people. you know, they're not doing the most difficult job in the world, but they're doing a really important job. say, oh, if you job. and they'll say, oh, if you do it this way, it'll be cheaper for you. oh, there's four of you. you can get a ticket

you. you can get a family ticket when you're in at the when you're going in at the weekend. that's really on weekend. that's really hard on an just go back an app. and let's just go back to cash thing because it's to this cash thing because it's worth, you know, let's get over 100,000. are some 100,000. here are some interesting numbers on a graphic. say that haven't graphic. you say that we haven't had lately. so had many graphics lately. so in this spot, you're getting this studio spot, you're getting two whole graphics. so let's look at some numbers. look at some of these numbers. these numbers are from finance uk finance, which is a trade industry body. so we know that industry body. so we know that in can bring up the in 2012 they can bring up the graphic haven't it 60, graphic. we haven't got it 60, 60% of transactions in 2012 were still cash , right? that's now still cash, right? that's now around 30. and we're going to end up with no cash by 2030. find it. there you go . look at find it. there you go. look at that. there you go. we're going to end up with no cash by 2035 on or certainly less than 10. and since 2018, 20% of atms , and since 2018, 20% of atms, those holes in the walls, the teller machines , as they have teller machines, as they have closed . so for many, many closed. so for many, many people, they're living in cash deserts, particularly older people who rely on cash . we are people who rely on cash. we are concerned because 5 million uk adults still rely wholly on

cash. and when you think that there are 27 million households, that's a very high percentage. and that's why here on gb news we are batting for those people. we don't want surveillance capitalism. we don't want the lack of privacy that comes with removing cash. we don't want the vested interests, the businesses that want to forget their cash handung that want to forget their cash handling costs. we don't want them to win . this cash should be them to win. this cash should be a universal right to use cash until 2050. that's what our tradition says. so get online on gb news .com forward slash cash and put your name corner shop owners up and down the land. >> we'll be cheering this campaign. >> absolutely 98,000. come on. one well done . one well done. >> just need 2000 more. we'll reach that 100,000 whilst we're on air. we've got you've got another hour and 20 minutes. i will be. i will be expecting that. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> liam, thanks for that. now, a decision on whether the grave of the famous dambusters dog can be removed from raf scampton is

expected later today. so the dog served as the mascot for the legendary raf squadron was buned legendary raf squadron was buried on the former air base at the request of its owner. >> but now the home office has plans to convert the base into a migrant camp, which is being, of course , opposed by just about everybody. >> our east midlands reporter will has more . will hollis has more. >> if the courage of the dambusters men is the heart of their story, then their mascot dog is the soul from flying with wing commander guy gibson to drinking a beer with the men of 617 squadron, the black labrador is synonymous with the second world war raid . now, 80 years on world war raid. now, 80 years on from his death , he's at the from his death, he's at the centre of a british controversy with scampton air airbase shut and asylum seekers in coming the raf says it can no longer protect the grave and its heritage if they want to dig up and remove any remains to raf marham in norfolk. the current home of 617 locals are furious .

home of 617 locals are furious. sarah and paul live next to raf scampton. i mean , you don't live scampton. i mean, you don't live here without becoming attached to the history of the base, so you know , knowing that part of you know, knowing that part of that's gone and a huge part of that's gone and a huge part of thatis that's gone and a huge part of that is gone would be quite upsetting if he lived here. >> he died here. his graves here. this is where he belongs . here. this is where he belongs. for the people living here in scampton guy gibson's dog isn't just a part of the dambusters story , it's also a part of their story. >> and they feel that it's their job to preserve it in the same way that the raf says that it does parts of the historic base have listed status, which covers the dog's grave. any change to a protected building and its surrounds must go through the local council . in this case, local council. in this case, west lindsey in lincolnshire. >> this is hangar one. hangar two is the next one along and at the front of hangar two is where guy gibson's dogs buried

councillors like roger are battling the home office to try and scrap a plan to put asylum seekers at the former base . seekers at the former base. >> he says if it happens , they >> he says if it happens, they can kiss goodbye to a £300 million heritage deal for scampton , the dog's grave is scampton, the dog's grave is part of our heritage, but it's also part of our future because there's the future here. >> if we get what we want with the £300 million deal. enrols a world class heritage centre and the dog's grave is part of the story of 617 squadron . story of 617 squadron. >> hundreds of people have given feedback on the planning application. historic england recommends refusing as it would harm the significance of the wider site. gibson's dog died when it was hit by a carjust when it was hit by a car just hours before the raid. the wing commander then hid the death from his men, fearing it could be seen as a bad omen. buried overnight night. he's been resting there ever since . the resting there ever since. the decision removing him is decision on removing him is expected tonight at a planning meeting. badged as extraordinaire . three will extraordinaire. three will

hollis gb news in scampton . hollis gb news in scampton. >> thank you, will. right we are joined in the studio by former labour mp stephen pound and political commentator emma webb. stephen pound , we need to come stephen pound, we need to come to you first. with a name like that, don't kill cash, what you make of our campaign? >> well, i thought it was a campaign against my old colleague cash. at first colleague bill cash. at first i said you know, how would you said no, you know, how would you tell? yeah, no, it's a tell? but yeah, no, it's a horrible i'll tell you, one of the problems i is the problems i have is i occasionally wander into licenced from to licenced premises from time to time and no, you know, purely in the of actually the interests of actually communing with the constituents as know , when you as well. but, you know, when you buy drink in pub, i always buy a drink in a pub, i always like to say and have one for yourself quite. and so i went into other day into a pub the other day mentioning names but the mentioning no names but the king's in hanwell and king's arms in hanwell and they've a separate they've actually got a separate little there . so you little tip thing there. so you buy your drink with your card and then say, would you like and then you say, would you like to tap and obviously the to tap in £2? and obviously the big people it. big issue, people are doing it. no, no. so important no, no. it's so important because disenfranchised because it disenfranchised people. of people who people. the number of people who simply do not have do not have credit the other credit cards. and the other

thing, course, is credit thing, of course, is credit cards. nowadays, you start tapping know everything tapping in. they know everything about do. and about you. they do. and i actually think there's the anonymity of cash, but it's also the ability , the flexibility the ability, the flexibility that brings you . that it brings with you. >> and so if you're in the >> and it's so if you're in the restaurant, you're tipping a waiter you're then, waiter or waitress. you're then, you know, they keep the tip, you know, absolutely . know, so absolutely. >> because, emma, what do you thinkwill. i didn't know about >> i will. i didn't know about this morning. i will this until this morning. i will absolutely sign it promote absolutely sign it and promote it to hell and high water. i think this is really important . think this is really important. and the main reason why i think so is because the situation that we're currently facing where you've seen nigel farages account being closed down paper , hal closing down the accounts of the free speech union , the of the free speech union, the daily sceptic, so all sorts of people , reverend, recently people, reverend, recently having his account count closed, but and i think barclays also just had to pay £20,000 to a christian group because they had closed down their bank account as well . we are facing with the

as well. we are facing with the cashless society plus the way that banks are behaving, we are facing a serious threat to our right to transact . and that is right to transact. and that is that fundamentally unpersons you if you have your bank account closed and you live in a cashless society, you do not have the freedom and the ability to transact. it's about anonymity, motty, but it's also about our ability to simply live. yeah. and so cash gives keeping cash is a failsafe to make sure that we retain that right to transact regardless of the cashless society. >> breaking news, breaking news. you did not let us down. we have hit a hundred thousand signatures during this show this morning. well done, everybody. well done. >> applause well done. well done, gb news viewers and listeners, because that is brilliant. >> and of course, stephen, you know, former mp, we now know, as a former mp, we can now start pushing 100,000. but start pushing with 100,000. but of course you're now to of course you're now entitled to a debate in the house of a full debate in the house of commons. a full debate in the house of commorlong did you. >> how long did you. >> how long did you. >> is less than 48 hours. >> that is less than 48 hours. it was patrick christys show day before yesterday. so three, 4:00

in afternoon. in the afternoon. >> when we came on air at >> and when we came on air at 930, was on 86,000. we've 930, it was on 86,000. so we've gone up 14,000. >> i think you also mentioned patrick christys. i think we should give him credit should actually give him credit for fundraising for mind. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> closed lord >> i think they closed lord dannatt night they dannatt last night and they raised incredible raised an incredible sum of money. a great guy. >> he's a great guy. >> he's a great guy. >> news is leading the debate >> gb news is leading the debate now, isn't it? that's what we're meant to doing, isn't it? meant to be doing, isn't it? >> and that's what you're meant to be doing. >> and that's what you're meant to lbutoing. actually doing. >> but you're actually doing. >> but you're actually doing. >> we are. >> we are and we are. >> we are and we are. >> and we're getting more viewers and our rivals. >> we are. we're doing well accepted. >> the principle of rivals. >> the principle of rivals. >> well, we yes, do. we are >> well, we yes, we do. we are the pretenders to the throne. >> of course. but we're now you're upstart. you're the young upstart. >> the young. >> you're the young. >> you're the young. >> what we are. that's >> exactly what we are. that's exactly we are. exactly what we are. >> i think the >> but i think i think the reason so important, reason it's so important, we've just it, are so just discussed it, there are so many implications, aren't there, of a cashless society. it's not just about who are just about those who are disenfranchised. that is incredibly important, but it will the will affect everybody in the fullness it's very easy fullness of time. it's very easy to sit there and say, well, i'm all jack, i've got bank all right, jack, i've got a bank account. i can. what's wrong

with luddites? well, just with these luddites? well, just be well, serious be careful. well, 1—1 serious vision that vision of the future that a petrol around my way has petrol station around my way has cloned credit cloned people's credit cards three times now. >> number of people they go >> the number of people they go in there and the petrol station says you've got pay that. and says you've got to pay that. and next thing you know, great sums of being dropped now, of money are being dropped now, okay. banks okay. in some cases, the banks will money back. but the will pay the money back. but the potential for fraud with credit cards the potential cards is vastly the potential for a £5 note is for fraud with a £5 note is pretty minimal. >> i'll tell should be >> i'll tell you, i should be chairing this campaign. taxi drivers. >> oh yeah. are wide awake. >> the taxi drivers know what's going they are going on because they are feeling every day. i paid for feeling it every day. i paid for cash going home and cab the other night and it inspired this conversation the report conversation in in the report that reading just before that i was reading just before we one of the one we came in here, one of the one of the sort of groups of people that would old people that this would help old people who to pay for parking. >> you might just get a ticket because you now have to do everything on app. it's everything on an app. it's terrible it's not just it's terrible and it's not just it's not just paying parking. not just paying for parking. it's of different it's all sorts of different things. that you to be things. now that you used to be able to use cash for, you able to use cash for, but you can't and are can't eat. and there are implications you don't. and

implications if you don't. and you have to pay by but you have to pay by phone. but what don't have a what if you don't have a smartphone? why should you have to a smartphone so complicated? >> they? >> haven't they? >> haven't they? >> a very interesting >> haven't they? >don't a very interesting >> haven't they? >don't know a very interesting >> haven't they? >don't know if very interesting >> haven't they? >don't know if you interesting >> haven't they? >don't know if you knowzsting >> haven't they? >don't know if you know thisg >> haven't they? >don't know if you know this in i don't know if you know this in america, you know, the dollar bills the same size. bills are all the same size. right? and so people who are who have can't have problems can't differentiate $10 differentiate between the $10 bill bill. all the bill and a $50 bill. all the british currency differently british currency is differently shaped. you can shaped. right? so that you can actually touch what size actually tell by touch what size it shape it is. and it is and what shape it is. and what value it is. yeah, we've put some thought into this. yeah, let's keep it all yeah, exactly. let's keep it all your £50 notes you've your £50 notes that you've always wallet. always got in your wallet. >> and they're bigger >> steve and well they're bigger on thigh. >> steve and well they're bigger on i've thigh. >> steve and well they're bigger on i've seen|. >> steve and well they're bigger on i've seen pictures of them. yeah. >> right. >> right. >> i want to just bring our viewers at home into this discussion you've been discussion because you've been very getting very busy this morning getting in jeff, in leicester has in touch. jeff, in leicester has said out here in the real world, away from the central london bubble, live and bubble, where 95% of us live and work and cards used work cash and cards are used absolutely here absolutely everywhere here except machines except car parking machines is because keep stealing because miscreants keep stealing the answer the cash from those. the answer in is to stop using in london is to stop using businesses that won't take cash. if worries you that much, if it worries you that much, there some in that. but there is some truth in that. but also, we need to be

also, jeff, we need to be talking about it. no other channels are having these discussions. that's what i find channels are having these disstrange;. that's what i find channels are having these disstrange . that's what i find channels are having these disstrange . when what i find channels are having these disstrange . when irvhat i find channels are having these disstrange . when i was i find channels are having these disstrange . when i was doing all so strange. when i was doing all the panel stuff on those inferior tv channels, this would be this would be one of be the this would be one of those topics that you would talk aboutin those topics that you would talk about in the paper review. but no talking about it. no one's talking about it. >> i think we've actually got to the now where so you're the point now where so if you're talking about not not using businesses gone businesses that have gone completely as we have completely cashless as we have seen such an increase in companies , i won't name any, but companies, i won't name any, but there are particular ones in central london chains that have gone completely cashless , right? gone completely cashless, right? yeah. if we get to a point yeah. now, if we get to a point where just in london alone where even just in london alone , even if it's not in in urban areas or in the countryside, if we to a point more and we get to a point where more and more have gone more companies have gone cashless, it becomes increasingly difficult for us to vote wallets in order vote with our wallets in order to use cash. and because we've not having this not been having this conversation things have got conversation, things have got worse worse. we actually worse and worse. we actually are at point i think, where at the point now, i think, where we to have the treasury we need to have and the treasury did intervene on this with the bank closed. bank accounts being closed. i think to see the think we need to see the treasury. need to the

treasury. we need to see the government intervening to make sure that citizens right to transact and permanently. >> rishi sunak >> and rishi sunak was challenged the challenged about this in the commons last or i it commons last week or i think it was week, he was was last week, and he was equivocal say the least. equivocal to say the least. >> but there is a is this a way to use purchaser power and i'm not suggesting this because it's outrageous, suggest outrageous, but may i suggest that places that that one of these places that you and i both you go in you know, and i both you go in there, order 15 coffee there, you order 15 coffee frappuccinos or so and then say, oh no, it's dodi. oh oh cash. oh no, it's dodi. oh sorry . sorry. >> oh that's a bit mischievous. stephen . oh, see, stephen powis. oh, so you see, there's no way there's a there's no rishi will back no way rishi sunak will back this campaign. no way rishi sunak will back thisso mpaign. no way rishi sunak will back thisso sorryjn. no way rishi sunak will back thisso sorry about >> so sorry about that. >> so sorry about that. >> he might think he votes in >> he might if think he votes in it. but is my point. we are >> but this is my point. we are showing rishi sunak what the showing you rishi sunak what the people want. we will. will people want. we will. we will help you work this stuff out help you to work this stuff out because people not because most people are not technocrats. they're not involved central bank of involved in the central bank of digital they're digital currency. they're not a big fan of digital id where you can police everything. so welcome world. rishi welcome to the real world. rishi sunak. of gb news. sunak. courtesy of gb news. he'll focus group. >> need a focus group >> he doesn't need a focus group because he's seen how quickly we voted for this 100,000in 100,000. >> we have done it well done

don't cash. but keep your don't kill cash. but keep your votes coming. the higher that gets, the more likely they are to parliament. to debate it in parliament. right? come, does the right? still to come, does the nhs a shake up? it does. >> we're also going to be talking about that extraordinary story about captain story about remember captain tom, story with which tom, a big, big story with which we'll you later in the we'll bring you later in the programme. >> great. we are gb news, britain's news channel. >> i'm alex deakin is >> i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the for gb news the met office for gb news a mixture of sunshine and showers today, fresh out there today, a fresh breeze out there as heatis today, a fresh breeze out there as heat is on the way as well. some heat is on the way for us later this week. for some of us later this week. we've this low pressure we've seen this low pressure system, little vicious one that brought lot wet weather brought a lot of wet weather across eastern areas through the night, bringing some very strong winds netherlands at the winds to the netherlands at the moment. but behind it, winds to the netherlands at the moment. but behind it , things moment. but behind it, things are little calmer, quite a bit are a little calmer, quite a bit of cloud around earlier, but we'll see some sunny spells breaking few showers breaking through a few showers moving on the breeze. moving through on the breeze. plenty of them northern plenty of them across northern scotland through northern ireland, parts of wales, but they through they will tend to zip through and some parts of the south will stay completely dry this afternoon. a bit of brightness

as to as well. temperatures close to or a touch below average. or maybe a touch below average. feeling a little fresh, maybe in the breeze , but pleasant the breeze, but pleasant enough when the sun pops out. now, as we go through this evening, still a few scattered showers around, but generally they tend to fade as head towards to fade as we head towards midnight. most places midnight. so most places becoming through becoming dry through this evening and staying dry through the of night. the second half of the night. always coming into always some showers coming into western and a more western scotland and a few more developing across the west of northern ireland. by dawn, a coolish actually. coolish night, actually. temperatures well down into single figures rural areas single figures in rural areas could 2 or could be as low as 2 or 3 degrees in some spots. so, yes, a fresh start to thursday for much of england, wales, it'll be a fine bright day with a bit more sunshine maybe than today. a southern a few showers for southern scotland, north—west england initially. and later on we'll see working into see some rain working into northern the breeze northern ireland. the breeze picking here more. that picking up here once more. that rain will eventually work along the west coast of scotland, too. but said , for it's but as i said, for many, it's a dry, bright day, a bit warmer than well. winds than today as well. the winds a little lighter, so feeling quite pleasant temperatures pleasant with temperatures mostly low 20s, the mostly into the low 20s, but the wet will push into wet weather will push into

northern then into northern ireland. then into western scotland. the western parts of scotland. the breeze and introduce breeze picking up and introduce a more showers during the a few more showers during the evening the north and the evening over the north and the west wales. an area of west of wales. that's an area of low pressure. but with the winds coming up from the south, that will bring some warmth with will also bring some warmth with it. hot sunshine, of it. so some hot sunshine, of course, in course, eastern areas in particular friday before particular on friday before things mixed things turn a bit more mixed through

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>> this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> thank you forjoining us this >> thank you for joining us this morning. don't kill cash. the people's channel petition to save physical pound in your save the physical pound in your pocket. you've done we have pocket. you've done it. we have hit over 102,000 signatures in two days. sign up at our website. let's keep that number rising. gb news .com forward slash cash . slash cash. >> and it's an important number because when you reach 100,000, you pushing for you can start pushing for a debate in the commons. now happy birthday the nhs . it's 75 birthday to the nhs. it's 75 years old today. we'll be taking a close look at the nhs throughout the show. is it still fit for purpose? throughout the show. is it still fit �*send rpose? throughout the show. is it still fit �*send us se? throughout the show. is it still fit �*send us your stories and >> send us your stories and a sad health story concerning the legendary tv broadcaster fiona phillips. she has revealed that she was diagnosed with alzheimer's . she is only 62 alzheimer's. she is only 62 years of age. she says that she's trialling a new drug which may slow or reverse the condition . we wish you all the condition. we wish you all the very best from gb news. >> yeah, she's a great woman . >> yeah, she's a great woman. she really and scotland she really is. and scotland today marking the coronation today is marking the coronation of the king and queen with a service thanksgiving at saint service of thanksgiving at saint

giles in edinburgh. giles cathedral in edinburgh. stay gb bring you stay tuned to gb news, bring you all latest throughout the all the latest throughout the day . day. i think incredibly brave of fiona phillips. she's given an interview to daily mirror, where she's been a columnist for years telling us that at 60, she was diagnosed with alzheimer's. she thought she'd got problems with the menopause forgetful , the menopause being forgetful, brain fog. and of course, her parents died of it. and she nursed her parents with it. >> let us know your stories, particularly of that that condition as won't you? condition as well, won't you? because everybody, because it affects everybody, doesn't family . doesn't it? the whole family. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address. lots more well this address. lots more as well this morning. but first of all, here is your news tamsin roberts is your news with tamsin roberts i >> -- >> beth, thanks very much. good morning from the gb newsroom it's 11:02. as the nhs it's11:02. as the nhs celebrates its 75th anniversary, labouris celebrates its 75th anniversary,

labour is warning the service will die without further investment and modernisation . investment and modernisation. around 7.4 million people are on nhs waiting lists and the government has acknowledged the figure could get worse before it gets better. it comes as a yougov poll shows 1 in 3 people across the country have found it difficult to access services. shadow health secretary wes streeting says the nhs is facing the worst crisis in its history and people who can't afford to go private are being left behind deeply . angry about the two tier deeply. angry about the two tier system we have in our country today, where those who can afford it are paying to go private and those who can't afford it are being left behind. >> my would be in the >> my answer would be in the short , there spare short term, where there is spare capacity the private sector, capacity in the private sector, we be paying for it on we should be paying for it on nhs terms so that people who can't afford it are getting it free at the point of use. that would be my answer. i've got no objection to using private sector capacity to get nhs waiting lists down faster . waiting lists down faster. >> nato well, health minister

maria caulfield, who is also a nurse , says strike action is nurse, says strike action is putting more pressure on the service . service. >> although we've got more people on the waiting list, the waiting are coming down waiting times are coming down and i think for most people who are waiting for an operation or are waiting for an operation or a procedure, it's how they a procedure, it's how long they wait. else is on that wait. not who else is on that waiting we've waiting list. and we've eliminated year wait. eliminated the two year wait. we've the we've virtually eliminated the 18 and we're now 18 month wait and we're now working who are waiting working on those who are waiting for a year. so it's really important that we do that. and strike action doesn't help , to strike action doesn't help, to be honest. it does mean that procedures hours operations procedures, hours and operations are often cancelled. so that's why we do want the unions to come the table try and come round the table and try and resolve for patients . resolve that for patients. >> meanwhile, prince and >> meanwhile, the prince and princess wales surprised nhs princess of wales surprised nhs staff dropping in for a tea staff by dropping in for a tea party at a hospital in london. william and kate helped lay tables at a reception at saint thomas's hospital to celebrate the nhs 75th anniversary. see the nhs 75th anniversary. see the royals met guests, including aneira thomas, the first baby born on the nhs , named after the

born on the nhs, named after the health services founder aneurin bevan. health services founder aneurin bevan . it was hosted by nhs bevan. it was hosted by nhs charity kids together, for which the prince and princess are patrons . plans have been patrons. plans have been revealed to close almost every railway station ticket office in england. the rail delivery group has unveiled a proposal which could lead to nearly all officers eyes being shut down at hundreds of stations. facilities will remain open at the busiest stations as rail operators are under pressure from the government to save money amid a drop in revenue caused by the pandemic. following a consultation, the government will have the final decision on which offices will be closed at schools across england have been forced to close or restrict access to students with teachers walking off the job in a row over pay. it's their seventh strike this year and unions have warned there'll be more action in the autumn if a deal can't be reached. as well as lessons end of term events like school trips and sport days are also being

disrupted . a birmingham teacher, disrupted. a birmingham teacher, leslie quinlan , says both staff leslie quinlan, says both staff and students deserve better government aren't listening. >> and we're going to keep doing this until they do. we need to have a fully funded education system in this country . these system in this country. these children , these children deserve children, these children deserve so much better than this. what this government is happening and what it's doing to them. it's been going on for way too many years. we need to put a stop to it now and fund their education on faith. >> leaders are calling for a just and compassionate asylum policy . the archbishops of policy. the archbishops of canterbury and york have renewed their calls for the government to change its illegal migration bill. in a letter to the times newspaper. the intervention comes ahead of the final report stage debate on the bill in the house of lords today. the archbishop of canterbury is proposing an amendment is proposing an amendment and is calling on government to calling on the government to develop long term strategy to develop a long term strategy to combat refugee crisis and combat the refugee crisis and

human trafficking . the king will human trafficking. the king will be presented the scottish crown jewels at a service in edinburgh to mark the coronation. king charles and queen camilla will be commemorated at st giles' cathedral during the event attended by leading public figures and members of a people's procession who will walk through the scottish caphal walk through the scottish capital. the king will receive a crown, a sceptre and a sword made of gold , silver and gems made of gold, silver and gems known collectively as the honours of scotland . this is gb honours of scotland. this is gb news. more headlines from me shortly. now, though, it's back to andrew and . to andrew and. bev >> the health secretary, steve barclay has called for evolution , not revolution, when it comes to the nhs. as it turns 75 today. >> he's been writing in the times, chose as one of his predecessors, has called for a

royal commission to look into the whole way the nhs is operated. but number 10 seems to have ruled that out already. >> that's right. the three main health think tanks have warned that the nhs won't make it to its 100th birthday without support. >> well, let's cross now to our reporter jack carson, who's in the home town of the labour politician aneurin bevan , who is politician aneurin bevan, who is behind creation of nhs . behind the creation of the nhs. over you. good morning . over to you. good morning. >> good morning. yeah we're here in tredegar at the office. the original office of the tredegar workmen's medical aid society. this essentially this idea of this society is the foundation really of the nhs. when bevan became health minister. this is the idea that that he took to of course take that white paper into into that official government policy. we're here with alan tessa jowell from from alan. alan, tell us, tell us about the history of aneurin bevan and his importance to this town. >> good morning. well, nye bevan bevan was very much a man of the

people right from very early on at the age of 19, he'd already become head of his local miners lodge and was actively trying to sort of get promote workers rights, fair pay and was very much a thorn in the side of the local sort of iron company because he believed that, you know, everybody should have the right to sort of, you know, fair work, fair wage and obviously the access to health care as well. so the tredegar medical aid society would have been very close to heart. yeah close to his heart. yeah >> and talk to us about about how he that model of the how he took that model of the society to make it and to make it kind of into the nhs when it was founded. >> so his friend walter conway was general secretary of the medical aid society , and under medical aid society, and under his leadership he managed to get 20,000 people to subscribe to the service by just paying a sort of a few pence a week or a month and aneurin bevan obviously saw this model running quite effectively for about ten years. so when he was asked to construct the nhs , he knew sort construct the nhs, he knew sort of that the system would work.

and as we know, he proudly stood up in parliament and said, we will tredegar arise. you because he knew the system had been functioning tredegar quite well for over ten years. yeah. >> and kind of take us into a bit more , more detail about the bit more, more detail about the society itself . so it had 20,000 society itself. so it had 20,000 members at one point. yeah. >> so, so the society was formed by a number of like minded societies coming together in 1890. and from then on it slowly grew . and then obviously walter grew. and then obviously walter conway was appointed general secretary and he was known as being a very gentlemanly man, very patient, and was again another man of the people . and another man of the people. and under his leadership, it grew to 20,000 members. so obviously it was it was a well, you know, it was it was a well, you know, it was a need that the town desperately wanted in order to get any medical aid before that. you had to get a doctor all the way in from abergavenny. so, you know, the medical aid society came with wonderful came in with this wonderful system, built surgeries , a system, built surgeries, a cottage hospital, and provided doctors , dentists and other

doctors, dentists and other medical professionals as and when needed. >> yeah, this place has so much history you've been. you've >> yeah, this place has so much histortelling u've been. you've >> yeah, this place has so much histortelling me�* been. you've >> yeah, this place has so much histortelling me this n. you've >> yeah, this place has so much histortelling me this morning. been telling me this morning. but actually the nhs in a but it was actually the nhs in a way downfall for way which was the downfall for this because that that, this place because that that, that care free of the that health care free of the point of use, took the need away for this society, for these people. >> yes. it was kind of >> sadly yes. it was kind of sort the forerunner of the sort of the forerunner of the nhs then became, you nhs actually then became, you know, sort of defunct as it were. and within about two years, memberships dropped off and we actually have the last ledger book here and around about 1950, that's the last entry and the last couple of people that are actually sort of still paying and yeah, they wrapped up the society then . wrapped up the society then. >> all right, alan, thank you so much for joining >> all right, alan, thank you so much forjoining us here this much for joining us here this morning on gb news. well, there you are. that's a quick tour of the the history of the nhs the of the history of the nhs from in tredegar. from here in tredegar. >> jack, thanks >> all right, jack, thanks so much. that's jack carson in tredegar, hometown of aneurin bevan. interesting bevan. an interesting he was the health pioneered health secretary who pioneered the he in protest at the nhs. he quit in protest at prescription charges being introduced because he said that

breaches the fundamental principle of being free at the point of delivery. i love that. and course, we're and of course, we're still paying and of course, we're still paying prescription charges. and of course, we're still payi actuallyescription charges. and of course, we're still payi actually we 'iption charges. and of course, we're still payi actually we paid1 charges. and of course, we're still payi actually we paid most ges. and of course, we're still payi actually we paid most gerus and actually we paid most of us to to the dentist to be to go to the dentist to be turning in his grave. >> wouldn't with how >> now, wouldn't he, with how much paid? much we paid? >> mean, that is private >> i mean, that is private ization by stealth, isn't i ization by stealth, isn't it? i don't know anybody who's an don't know anybody who's got an nhs dentist. >> i don't. the biggest >> i don't. i don't. the biggest the most common cause of children hospitalised children being hospitalised now is extraction is for teeth extraction. that's how is. how bad it is. >> it's expensive. but >> and it's expensive. but again, and tony blair, of course, saying today , writing an course, saying today, writing an article, sir tony, as we should call him now, saying that there should be use of private should be more use of private sector operators, which apps contentious and apps, of course. yes. and if you're 85 and watching this, in fact, i was talking to one of our viewers who's 96, brian, and he doesn't have on his phone, so there have apps on his phone, so there wouldn't be much good to him. >> it's hopeless, right? teachers are striking again this week as part of an ongoing dispute over pay and funding . dispute over pay and funding. >> it's the national education union, is the largest union, which is the largest teachers they're teachers union. they're campaigning fully funded teachers union. they're campainflation fully funded

teachers union. they're campainflation pay ully funded teachers union. they're campainflation pay rise.funded above inflation pay rise. remember inflation is currently at 8.7. and they're also striking , they say, to raise striking, they say, to raise awareness about a lack of funding in schools. >> christine cunliffe now >> so christine cunliffe now joins head teacher at lvs joins us, head teacher at lvs ascot . good morning, christine. ascot. good morning, christine. this is a busy time of the year for teachers. it's the last few weeks of term. you've got sports days, you've got summer fairs, you've got concerts that's going on assemblies, prize givings . on assemblies, prize givings. what a terrible time for teachers to disrupt the curriculum and the week for the kids . kids. >> it is busy. i managed just to get here by the skin of my teeth, actually, because i was in a private prizegiving ceremony for our youngsters today. but it is tragic and it's not that i don't have sympathy for teachers pay, i really don't. we need to be in don't. but we need to be in school for children and also school for the children and also parents need to go work as parents need to go to work as well. but i do think, you know, striking is just putting a plaster over the fundamental issues we have with education. now news earlier now i saw on the news earlier this with eamonn and this morning with eamonn and isabel they talking isabel that they were talking about nhs and maybe that isabel that they were talking about hasnhs and maybe that isabel that they were talking about has broken.i maybe that isabel that they were talking about has broken. now,be that isabel that they were talking about has broken. now, you1at isabel that they were talking

about has broken. now, you know, model has broken. now, you know, it a fabulous process. it it served a fabulous process. it does an amazing things does an amazing job. but things have and i do think have to change. and i do think that teaching is the same that teaching is in the same thing. know, schools need to thing. you know, schools need to be fully funded be able to be fully funded to be able to pay be fully funded to be able to pay teachers the salaries which they know they can command and we know what crisis is what that recruitment crisis is looking at right especially looking at right now, especially as science teachers. as maths and science teachers. so time to strike or is it so is it time to strike or is it time we put pressure the time that we put pressure on the government to change the way we do things, give headteachers a budget pay their budget to be able to pay their staff they deserve to be staff what they deserve to be paid and be able to deliver paid and to be able to deliver the first class education to every in country. and every child in this country. and not just the chosen few or the area that you live in. it's time for change. and it's not time for change. and it's not time for striking. it's time for to us call for reform in education. >> christine, how difficult is it recruit it now for you to recruit teachers? you you mentioned mathematics teachers , for mathematics teachers, for instance. is it a problem ? instance. is it a problem? >> it's a huge problem . um, and, >> it's a huge problem. um, and, you know, in our school in independent school, so our budgets are good. but even the area that we live in, it's very expensive to live. the cost of living, you know, we have to we

are we are really having to be competitive . kyiv and i think, competitive. kyiv and i think, you know, with us as an independent, we have run our independent, we have to run our budgets state school budgets like the state school do. having to plough do. and we're having to plough money, more and more money in to be to the right be able to attract the right teachers our school to teachers into our school to deliver education. now, that deliver the education. now, that shouldn't the shouldn't be the case in the state sector, and i've worked there ten years there previously for ten years before education before independent education schools be given the schools should be given the right amount money to attract right amount of money to attract the people. now above the right people. now above inflation in pay rises, the government , you know, really government, you know, really can't afford that. we've just come covid. we're having come out of covid. we're having to our country . come out of covid. we're having to our country. but come out of covid. we're having to our country . but maybe to repair our country. but maybe now i implore the government to take a look at the structure of what we do and how we pay people, because in that mix as well, there's also the pension issues and maybe we should be offering our teachers packages so they can choose, you know, what they invest into for the future, where they decide to teach and how much money they they earn. because if i was a maths graduate right now , now i maths graduate right now, now i would be attracted to the city

where the money's much more. >> yeah , you use the word the >> yeah, you use the word the government can't afford to pay. but have remember, don't but we have to remember, don't we? not the we? here it's not the government, it's the taxpayer. it's all of us. if they if they give a whacking above flation pay give a whacking above flation pay rise, that's coming out of the ever diminishing pool of tax i >> -- >> but also, you just mentioned, you know, how many of us have got a dentist , you know, how many of us have got a dentist, an nhs dentist, dentist. now we don't have it. how many parents are having to pay how many parents are having to pay for education now? and we're already paying our taxes. so where is the fairness in that? why are why are there's not tax reliefs can make reliefs that people can make real about where they real choices about where they get our educated , where they get get our educated, where they get their care from . um, and you their care from. um, and you know, we can't just live in in this idealistic society of free freedom, you know, we need to change. you might be able to tell i'm a little bit uptight about this because i hate seeing children out of school. i hate teachers not being paid what they're due to paid. but they're due to be paid. but i know what the pressures are. but those pressures can be alleviated by real reform within

our education system . our education system. >> why now do you think , nick? >> why now do you think, nick? why now are our teachers so keen? is it just about the cost of living that they're finding it hard to make ends meet on their existing salary? or is there something else going on about the psychology public about the psychology of public sector workers who feel that they deserve more ? they just deserve more? >> oh, no, i don't think it's that people feel they deserve more. really think that. more. i really don't think that. but think teachers give far but i think teachers give far more above than they're contracts. you know, contracts in article, for example , 830 to in article, for example, 830 to 4:00. i can tell you that our teachers are working ten, 12 hours a day. we emotionally invest into education to provide for our children and sometimes it might feel that the teachers maybe are the forgotten ones. people will soon tell us how much holiday we get or we only work certain hours or this, that and the but being and the other. but being a teacher graft. i can teacher is hard graft. i can tell you. 30 years of experience. s i'm covering up my grey hair. >> ha. well, you look good. you look fabulous to us. yeah. you

know, we all. we all. and the headteacher of any school is the most important role. with good leadership, you get good teachers, good pupils . the teachers, good pupils. the parents will cooperate with you, which , let's face it, is not which, let's face it, is not always easy. no, it's not easy. >> and we've got to remember, children come first. yeah and if we get it right for them, they are our future. and that's what we have to invest in. and, you know, come on, government, let's get going. let's reform what we do appreciate all. do and appreciate us all. >> you'd been my >> i wish you'd been my headteacher, christine, because my. welcome . my. you're very welcome. >> yeah. my critique was rather was a rather difficult man, particularly the belt was particularly when the belt was around. christine, thanks for joining christine joining us. that's christine kind teacher at kind of whose head teacher at ascot. to get the belt at school. >> did you? >> did you? >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> that's amazing. >> that's amazing. >> he used to put a piece of chalk on the desk, and then you'd this big belt and you'd get out this big belt and then he'd whack the door and the chalk would be crushed, and you'd oh, just you'd think, oh, that's just demonstrating. then stick demonstrating. and then stick your hand up. >> of things did you >> what kind of things did you do i once do to get i remember once throwing snowballs. throwing snowballs. would they

snowballs. and where would they hit hand? yeah. yeah hit you? on the hand? yeah. yeah both hit you? on the hand? yeah. yeah botyeah. yeah. in fact, i've >> yeah. yeah. in fact, i've joined up some school mates joined up with some school mates just a few ago to ten of just a few weeks ago to ten of us, and we were all talking about how often we got the belt, the boys very torn the boys see, i'm very torn about because i know, like, about that because i know, like, kids absolute riot in kids just run absolute riot in schools now. >> they just think, i'm going to use expression. use that expression. >> do me harm, did it? >> i know. well, did it? >> i know. well, did it? >> well, i didn't think it did. i didn't feel abused. no. battered if i went battered child. and if i went home told my mum i got the home and told my mum i got the belt, she said, you probably deserved it. oh that's not how it is. >> now, if em $ in now and >> now, if you go in now and poor teachers, if say your poor teachers, if they say your child's something wrong, child's done something wrong, the commonly will the parents are commonly will say, have you done to say, well, what have you done to my child to make them do something wrong? it's a difficult the plates shifted >> it is the plates have shifted discipline, good discipline, boundaries is good old punishments, old fashioned punishments, possibly beating them up possibly not beating them up with ruler? possibly not beating them up witi no. 'uler? >> no. >> em- em— e was belt. very thick >> well, it was belt. very thick belt. and the nuns used to use the ruler, but with side of the ruler, but with the side of it. the side of the ruler, it. with the side of the ruler, that always still to come, that always hurt. still to come, we'll speaking our we'll be speaking to our reporter, walker, reporter, cameron walker, who's in and

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edinburgh. >> the sun is still shining up there. cameron, what's the mood like there today? >> got a tartan tie on. >> he's got a tartan tie on. >> he's got a tartan tie on. >> i do appetite and tie on. thanks for noticing , andrew. thanks for noticing, andrew. yes, it is a bit of a mix, actually. i walked down the aisle of the royal mile a little bit earlier and already, despite the fact we're a couple of hours away processions kicking away from processions kicking off, there is a large presence down there from both pro monarchists and anti—monarchists. i spoke to the leader of a republic, grainne smith , the anti—monarchy group smith, the anti—monarchy group with the big yellow signs he was saying he's expecting around 300 people at his protest, which is just opposite saint giles cathedral , where the service of cathedral, where the service of thanksgiving going be thanksgiving is going to be taking later on where the taking place later on where the king will be presented with the honours scotland, crown , honours of scotland, the crown, the and the brand new the sceptre and the brand new sword named after queen elizabeth ii five foot long, 7.5kg in weight. that's going to be carried by dame katherine grainger, the former gold olympic gold medallist. but before that takes place, we have

to two big processions. we have the people's procession from edinburgh castle, representatives from various organisations across scotland, including nhs scotland, celebrating their 75th anniversary today , and the anniversary today, and the prince's trust. that's the king's former charity which he set up when he was prince of wales. there's also going to be 700 military personnel processing down the royal mile from the royal air force, british army and royal navy as well. and they are going to be led by a shetland pony mascot out of the royal regiment of scotland. there will be a tri service guard of honour greeting the king, the queen and the prince and princess of wales, known as the duke and duchess of rothesay in in scotland. they're going to be greeted at the palace of holyrood house. and then they are going to be taken up st giles' as up to st giles' cathedral as well. course, we have well. then, of course, we have the . different the service. different dignitaries going be dignitaries are going to be there going to there and then there's going to be gun salute at edinburgh be a 21 gun salute at edinburgh castle, followed weather castle, followed by weather permitting it looks like permitting. but it looks like they're to we are

they're going to we are definitely to this by definitely going to have this by the this weather, the the looks of this weather, the red are going to be red arrows are going to be flying over the edinburgh castle behind down the royal mile behind me, down the royal mile and over the palace of holyrood house as well. it's the first kind of celebration well, celebration kind since celebration of this kind since 1953. was the last time a 1953. that was the last time a monarch was presented with the honours of scotland, which was queen elizabeth ii. so it doesn't happen very often at all. as said, andrew and all. but as you said, andrew and your link there, they are a lot older, the crown than older, the crown jewels than that camera. >> that was lovely. >> that was lovely. >> i think we're wahaca. >> i think we're wahaca. >> i think got a picture >> i think we've got a picture of in a kilt. yeah let's see of you in a kilt. yeah let's see it. oh looking lovely . it. oh looking lovely. >> and, cameron, you know what? i'm going to ask you. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> did you. did you do it? the traditional scottish way or did you not do it the traditional scottish way with your kilt ? scottish way with your kilt? >> no comments. i can tell you. but it was the stewart of appin . it was the stewart of appin tartan. that's my the clan. i'm half scottish, so. right. >> i think you're blushing .

>> i think you're blushing. >> i think you're blushing. >> i think you're blushing. >> i think you're on the west coast. >> i think you're blushing . >> i think you're blushing. >> i think you're blushing. >> well, it's just very hot here, aren't you, summer ? what here, aren't you, summer? what do you expect? >> there you go . >> there you go. >> there you go. >> cameron, great to talk to you.thank >> cameron, great to talk to you. thank you. and cameron alluded to the supporters . there alluded to the supporters. there are supporters, but of course, they're protesters are they're also protesters who are gathering our gathering on the royal mile. our scotland mcguire scotland reporter tony mcguire joins tony morning. are joins us live. tony morning. are they making of noise? they making a lot of noise? these protesters ? these protesters? >> yeah, well , certainly we got >> yeah, well, certainly we got in to speak with graeme smith, leader of public, quite early this morning. and he did say, as cameron mentioned there, he was hopeful of a few hundred protesters. and that's one of two rather large protests expected today, the other one being down at holyrood. the scottish parliament now that pretty held by our republic is going to be joined by co—leader of the scottish greens patrick harvie . that is expected to be harvie. that is expected to be another reasonably sized turnout and certainly this morning, despite it being so early,

certainly graham smith was quite positive about the way things were going. i asked him about his message that he was going to be sending across today and what the wind is like in the sails of the wind is like in the sails of the republic machine. >> yeah, i mean, support for republic is boomed and the support for the monarchy has dropped sharply across the uk from sort of highs of 75% down to 55, 52 on one poll. and i think one thing that we want to do is concentrate more in scotland because i think that's where we can push the whole uk number down below 50% if the monarchy support goes down below 50, then you know they no longer have any claim at all to legitimacy or public support. so that's game over for them. >> you know what? >> you know what? >> and behind me, you can actually see probably just the bottom of a statue of adam smith . adam smith, of course, the father of scottish enlightenment and the period where different groups of society who shared different views came together in a form of kind of sharing their

their perspectives and celebrating their differences. well, today is a lot like that. here in the royal mile, i'm joined by with protesters , joined by with protesters, monarchists and just a lot of people here who are actually just quite out to see this moment in history to say i was there and what a day they have to do it. the weather is good considering how absolutely atrocious it was yesterday . and atrocious it was yesterday. and certainly we've got the parade from the red arrows. we've got the lovable appearance of corporal cruachan , the little corporal cruachan, the little shetland pony mascot . here's shetland pony mascot. here's hoping he's on his best behaviour today . hoping he's on his best behaviour today. he's been hoping he's on his best behaviour today . he's been known behaviour today. he's been known to bite the hand of prince harry and also go to the toilet when it's not the best possible time. dufing it's not the best possible time. during a photo op with the late majesty the queen. so lots happening today. good atmosphere in edinburgh, irrespective of what side of the fence you sit on. all right. >> that's tony mcguire, our scotland reporter who's going to be at the service, of course, humza yousaf, who's the first minister who is an ardent republican.

>> ooh, awkward , ardent. >> ooh, awkward, ardent. >> ooh, awkward, ardent. >> we've been talking about our campaign all morning. don't kill cash and nadia has said, thank you, nadia. if we go cashless, what happens if your identity is stolen and you cannot do anything at time the anything at all? it's time the government a bank. oh, i government opened a bank. oh, i don't know about that. just what happened. at what happened. just look at what happened. just look at what happened farage. nobody happened to nigel farage. nobody cannot. nobody can function without the without a bank account. the government to act now. government needs to act now. >> look at this from bernie >> and look at this from bernie and isle of wight, and from the isle of wight, which one of both of us. we which is one of both of us. we both like isle of very both like isle of wight very much. and where my 96 much. and that's where my 96 year view is from brian, we year old view is from brian, we have signed your petition, have both signed your petition, but question. but have a question. keeping cash for oldies like cash is mainly for oldies like us. i'm not an oldie. i use cash all the time. how are those without a smartphone or computer going we're getting our going to sign? we're getting our own box, and gail, own po. box, bernie and gail, so be able to send in so you'll be able to send in your these the ones your form. these are the ones your form. these are the ones you to target. you need a you need to target. you need a telephone is free telephone number which is free or regards, gail and or cheap regards, gail and bernie laws from the bernie dinosaur laws from the isle we like dinosaurs. >> you might be the blackgang >> you might be in the blackgang chine you're a dinosaur on chine if you're a dinosaur on the isle of wight. and we know

it's a good show. when my mum texts and she said, i bet you texts in and she said, i bet you and andrew have got no bank account midnight. need to account by midnight. you need to be because the banks do be careful because the banks do not to normally. not want cash to normally. right. right. still to right. my mum. right. still to come, tom foundation come, the captain tom foundation . has stopped . remember him? it has stopped receiving donations as the council orders a building that they built demolished . but they built to be demolished. but it a spa pool. the kind of it was a spa pool. the kind of thing you have when you're running a charity. all that after your morning . news after your morning. news >> beth, thanks very much. here are the headlines at 1131. as the nhs celebrates its 75th anniversary, labour is warning the service will die without further investment and modernisation . around 7.4 modernisation. around 7.4 million people are on nhs waiting lists and the government has acknowledged the figure could get worse before it gets better. it comes as a yougov poll shows 1 in 3 people across the country have found it difficult to access services as

plans have been revealed to close almost every railway station ticket office in england. the rail delivery group has unveiled a proposal which could lead to nearly all officers being shut down at hundreds of stations. officers being shut down at hundreds of stations . facilities hundreds of stations. facilities are expected to remain open at the busiest stations for team leaders in england have walked off the job for the seventh time this year in a row over pay, forcing schools to either close or restrict access to students. union leaders have warned there'll be more strike action in the autumn if a deal can't be reached. members of the national education union are also due to walk out this friday. the king will be present . covid. the will be present. covid. the scottish crown jewels at a service in edinburgh to mark the coronation. king charles and queen camilla will be commemorated at saint giles cathedral with hundreds of people marching through the city. ahead of the ceremony, the king will receive a crown, a sceptre and a sword made of gold , silver and gems known

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presenter fiona phillips has revealed that she's been diagnosed with alzheimer's disease. >> she's only 62 and she was diagnosed 18 months ago. so she'd months brain fog she'd had months of brain fog and anxiety. she thought was and anxiety. she thought it was something the something to do with the menopause, sadly it's the menopause, but sadly it's the same her parents had. same condition her parents had. she's on a trial for a new drug which scientists slow which scientists hope could slow or the illness in or even reverse the illness in years to come. >> yeah, well, let's speak now to express health to sunday express health and social lucy social affairs editor lucy johnston. lucy, good to see you. it's increasingly common, isn't it, as a disease outside others and the implications for the whole whole family are enormous i >> -- >> it's devastating news for her and it seems as if in her case, it's very unusually her condition is hereditary. it's very unusually her condition is hereditary . both condition is hereditary. both her parents died of the condition, and so that means that unfortunately for her, there are less environmental factors that may be affecting her, her condition and so less that she can do about it,

although as you've said, there is a new drug that's being trialled and that is a completely brand new approach to treating the condition and one hopes that maybe this may help find find some pathway to improvements, at least , although improvements, at least, although it's very uncertain yet and also uncertain whether she'll be on the actual drug or because it's a trial. she may be on the dummy drug. a lot of people think, lucy, it is hereditary. >> and i just have to think about my own family. my father had it. he was one of five children and three of them had dementia his own had dementia and his own father had dementia and his own father had dementia isn't dementia too. but it isn't necessarily genetic, is it ? necessarily genetic, is it? >> no. for her she's only 62 and both her parents had it so the likelihood is that it is genetic for her and it is a disease that is associate covid with ageing and most people develop it when they are older . it's and most people develop it when they are older. it's a sort of syndrome. it's a collection of diseases and actually we don't

really know the cause of it. we know that it's linked to smoke smoking, it's linked to lack of exercise and it's linked to loneliness . it's linked to, it's loneliness. it's linked to, it's unked loneliness. it's linked to, it's linked to diet and in fact, in sweden , their memory clinics sweden, their memory clinics actually test people for signs of low b—vitamins . and if people of low b—vitamins. and if people are found to have low levels of something that is a marker for low b—vitamins, they're given a prescription of drugs or of supplements to help improve their ba.2 mean intake and also fish oils . so this is really fish oils. so this is really where we need to be looking. i think by the time you've developed alzheimer's or any form of dementia , it's rather form of dementia, it's rather late to be trying to trying to get onto it and to reverse the symptoms . your decline in memory symptoms. your decline in memory is, you know, a decline in

memory shows that your brain has already sort of shot. but if you can start getting prevention early and this is where the government really needs to focus , we can perhaps stave off thousands and millions of early deaths and disease from the condition because, in fact , by condition because, in fact, by 2040, we're going to see from we have almost a million people with dementia . now, this is with dementia. now, this is likely to rise to nearly over 1.5 million. so we're facing a tsunami and our social care system really isn't up to up for it. you know, it's teetering on the verge of collapse as it is. so it's a real worry . so it's a real worry. >> she's so young , lucy, isn't >> she's so young, lucy, isn't she? fiona phillips to have this diagnosis at six de we traditions think of alzheimer's as being and you know, to some extent fortunate . it is still a extent fortunate. it is still a condition that will affect the elderly much more than the young. do you have any idea if

it is becoming more common in young people ? and what might young people? and what might explain that when you said about the environmental factors is, yeah, i don't think there's any evidence that it's becoming more common in young people . common in young people. >> i don't know of that. but it is becoming more common across the board. so we really are seeing a time bomb. we will see by 2035, two thirds of over 65 will be living with some form of some condition or another. mostly mental health problems. and alzheimer's. so we're really having to we really need to think about that in the health care system. um, so this will affect we haven't got enough places in care homes for people. it affects people, you know, they can't stay in hospital to be looked after and often that will need 24 hour care. so we really need to think about how we will tackle this and what how the country will look, how we

will cope with this, because it is a huge time bomb that's going to affect all of us and our tax bill, you know, is already we're paying bill, you know, is already we're paying 10% of our taxes , goes paying 10% of our taxes, goes towards health care . how will towards health care. how will this be reflected in the future? because things are only going to get more difficult for us if we've got this ageing and growing population fascinate . growing population fascinate. >> lucy, thank you. lucy johnston there, the daily express , sunday express, health express, sunday express, health and social. >> i've known fiona for years. she's such a nice woman. she's such a dynamo. bright, clever , such a dynamo. bright, clever, vibrant. she worked so hard with her parents to raise awareness of alzheimer's. and in the interview she's given in the mirror today, where she was a columnist, she said, and now it's come me. a chilling it's come for me. a chilling phrase, isn't it? she phrase, isn't it? and she thought it, but thought she might get it, but she she'd be she thought she'd be 80. stephen, only and she's stephen, she's only 62 and she's already it for 18 months. already had it for 18 months. it's age at all. it's no age at all. >> i mean, the one sort of light in the hope here is that the medical advances are extraordinary this and extraordinary in this area. and i think used to say

i also think that used to say that couldn't have a that you couldn't have a preventive action against alzheimer's, indicator alzheimer's, certain indicator is realising is now that they're realising it's about smoking, it's not always about smoking, it's not always about smoking, it's about exercise. it's not always about exercise. but we're actually but i think we're actually narrowing little bit narrowing it down a little bit now get the indications now to get the early indications of it. but there is some hope. >> i that was so >> i think that was so interesting what lucy was saying about could about loneliness could play a part in in cognitive decline, i suppose, elderly. part in in cognitive decline, i squou're elderly. part in in cognitive decline, i squou're not elderly. part in in cognitive decline, i squou're not talking.y. part in in cognitive decline, i squou're not talking to anybody. >> well, anybody. >> yeah, well, it's use it or lose it. exactly >> i seem to remember you used to do crosswords and things. you used do these brainteasers used to do these brainteasers and think that's and things, and i think that's and things, and i think that's an thing. it is. use an important thing. it is. use it or lose it. you've to it or lose it. you've got to keep brain sharp. well, keep your brain sharp. well, yeah. keep your brain sharp. well, yanou're working hard now. >> you're working hard now. captain moore, we've talked captain tom moore, we've talked about this in program. tell about this in the program. tell us this story. us about this story. emma >> extraordinary story. so >> well, extraordinary story. so the daughter of captain tom had put in a request to the council to build this l—shaped property built a c shaped property instead , put in a pool and a spa instead, put in a pool and a spa . charity commission is now investigated . the foundation . investigated. the foundation. the foundation says that even

though his daughter was put in this planning application, which was in the name of her and her husband, and it made reference to the foundation, the charity says that it wasn't aware that this had been made with any connection to the name of the foundation. and now they have been asked by the council to demolish the spa , really, that demolish the spa, really, that she'd created. and one of the comments online was that captain tom had done laps around his garden so that she could do laps around pool . around her pool. >> so cruel but cruel. >> so cruel but cruel. >> but yes, exactly . and you >> but yes, exactly. and you know, something fishy does seem to be going on here. and i don't want to jump to conclusions because they are investigating what's happened. there's nothing to suggest the foundation to suggest that the foundation has wrong. they has done anything wrong. they are effort are putting all of their effort into complying with the charity commission's inquiry. they are not more donations . not taking any more donations. and the foundation also importantly , separate the importantly, separate to the millions that were donated to captain tom that then went to the nhs. so the foundation is a

separate thing . this is separate thing. this is obviously quite a complicated. >> why did the foundation planning permission? >> why did the foundation need a spa pool? well so it seems spa and pool? well so it seems that the foundation didn't know that the foundation didn't know that being this that this was being this this building built in. building was being built in. >> tom's name on >> captain tom's name on that land. there also some land. there are also some questions about a company connected to the door to trademarking captain tom's name and things like this. so it's quite a complicated story. but what seem like without what it does seem like without jumping to conclusions is it appears that she's sort of profiting or at least using her father's name in a way that i think many of us would think is unacceptable and possibly a bit cheap. >> i don't know whether you can see this. we've got the this is this is the family home here. um, with this is the family home here. and then this. this is the rather significant aren't, as emma said, a kind of c shaped swimming pool block there . i swimming pool block there. i mean this is this is the family home. >> and let's be honest, it's very ugly. the neighbours are

not happy about it. they've put in objections because they've built a building that is larger and apparently its foundations were they noticed the foundations are deeper and everything. built everything. so they've built something have something that they don't have planning for and it's planning permission for and it's an for the for the local an eyesore for the for the local people and the council not people and the council would not have because it's have approved that because it's so from anything so hideous, apart from anything else vernacular of the area. >> look, i'll tell the real >> look, i'll tell you the real tragedy this. what really tragedy of this. what really breaks about is breaks my heart about this is captain he was captain tom moore. he was a burma man. he was he was burma star man. he was he was a heroic soldier who had given a huge amount. and he one huge amount. and he at one stage, actually encapsulated huge amount. and he at one stagspirit actually encapsulated huge amount. and he at one stagspirit oftually encapsulated huge amount. and he at one stagspirit of the ly encapsulated huge amount. and he at one stagspirit of the nation psulated huge amount. and he at one stagspirit of the nation during�*d the spirit of the nation during the spirit of the nation during the time of lockdown of, you know, we're going to through know, we're going to get through this somehow. and you know, i don't to exaggerate the don't want to exaggerate the situation. drew situation. a lot of us drew great strength from and great strength from it. and now his is being tarnished. his his name is being tarnished. his his name is being tarnished. his his is being besmirched his service is being besmirched by i think stage, by this. i think at one stage, the asking to be the daughter was asking to be paid a year. paid £100,000 a year. >> taken on she was >> she was taken on she was taken on as an interim director of the charity . but initially, of the charity. but initially, i think she had wanted £100,000 and she was paid for a short penod and she was paid for a short period of time. what would have been £85,000 per annum.

>> a lot of money to run a very small charity for a fledgling charity. yeah, absolutely . charity. yeah, absolutely. >> particularly when the money was being raised for the nhs. so it didn't even have to be dispersed. didn't have dispersed. you didn't even have to actually interview people. you the money over. you just handed the money over. and think a great and i think it is a great tragedy because i, captain tom moore the of moore is exactly the sort of person we be person that we should be admiring and respecting people who take who build spars and take £100,000 quite frankly, £100,000 a year, quite frankly, are opposite are on the opposite end. >> reminds of the >> it reminds me of the distinction between her majesty's queen elizabeth's service and the markles . service and the markles. >> well, that's an interesting , >> well, that's an interesting, pretty fair parallel . pretty fair parallel. >> yeah, it is, isn't it? what can we get from it? >> that is a good analogy, emma. >> that is a good analogy, emma. >> this story about the sound of music, one of my favourite movies of all time. >> not anymore. >> not anymore. >> not anymore. what >> not anymore. what are >> not anymore. what are they doing alive with the sound of trigger warning says the times. >> may contain. >> warning may contain. >> warning may contain. >> oh, we were storm. >> oh, we were storm. >> steven and i were saying off air that this is very much like when you get a bag of nuts that says warning may contain nuts. yeah, yeah, of course it

contains . a very progressive contains. a very progressive rabbi has commented on this, saying it's actually sort saying that it's actually sort of offensive to the audience to put the trigger warning on in the first place. and some of the other trigger warnings that have been put put out recently on similar things. richard the third warning may contain blood , right? sorry. that was macbeth. macbeth richard. the third, i thought was quite good that i think it was a university production warned that it contains ghosts. that may be scary . so this is contains ghosts. that may be scary. so this is obviously something that we've seen more multiple shakespearean companies doing. >> so there might be people watching going, what is a trigger warning? so the idea is that you might be so emotionally sensitive that when a man in a uniform walks on the stage to sing a song, you might go into some sort of paroxysm of panic. so that's the logic behind it. a trigger warning is imagine, you know, mel brooks's film the producers can you imagine? >> you know, you know, don't be stupid. be a smarty. come and

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