expected start any moment is expected to start any moment now. we will take that live now. and we will take that live for you. so stay tuned for all of the latest updates. but i am joined in the studio by our home and security editor mark white. mark what do we know so tar.7 yeah before yeah it was just before 10:00 this when this this morning, patrick, when this incident unfolded with this vehicle , all land rover , modern vehicle, all land rover, modern type, land rover that careered over grass outside the front of this prep school and smashed into the front of the school itself. >> not a lot of damage to the front of the building, but there was a group, a significant number of children on that grassy area out because this is the last day of term. they were celebrating that with a tea party . we're told these were party. we're told these were very young children and aged from 4 to 8. we're told that were out there at this time. and were out there at this time. and we had got indications that some of those injured had been very seriously critically injured.

and then sadly , just under an and then sadly, just under an hour ago , that news, that hour ago, that news, that confirmation that a girl has died. >> so that is the latest news as we understand it, just to remind you again that we are expecting a police press conference in just a matter of minutes, possibly seconds , actually. so possibly seconds, actually. so stay tuned for that. but one girl has died and a woman believed to be the driver in her 40s has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . paramedics, dangerous driving. paramedics, air, ambulance and police , of air, ambulance and police, of course, rushed to the scene. there's been a massive outpouring of grief. this is a tragic incident. this is according to the chief superintendent , claire kellard , superintendent, claire kellard, who says that the thoughts are with the girl's family has been a political outpouring as well. and apparently parents are having the school having to turn up at the school essentially check and see essentially to check in and see how children were getting how their children were getting on, a devastating and on, which is a devastating and distressing for anybody in distressing scene for anybody in valve. but yes, the latest is that one child has sadly died and a woman in her 40s has been arrested on suspicion of causing

death driving. death by dangerous driving. yeah, and it is. >> detective chief super intendent kelland , who is going intendent kelland, who is going to be giving that news conference. we see a news conference. we see a news conference. it's really just a statement to camera. we're told that she won't be taking any questions . ions regarding the questions. ions regarding the incident itself, sometimes they do. if someone throws a question or two to them. but we're expecting that we were told just after 3:00 it might take a minute or two for them to get them the themselves together. but in terms of the person arrested, well, confirmation on that. that's a woman in her 40s local reporters on the ground speaking to people there. patrick we're told that a woman who was driving suffered a medical episode. now, i don't know if that's true. there's no indication on from the statement from the metropol police that that's the case and they've been arrested on suspicion of causing

death by dangerous driving . that death by dangerous driving. that doesn't preclude their being a medical episode . defence it's medical episode. defence it's there that something might have gone wrong and it may be something that she shed some light on in her statement. >> exactly . and just to give you >> exactly. and just to give you an update, as we understand it, as of right now, on the condition of the other people who were injured, there , saint who were injured, there, saint george's hospital in tooting said that it was, um , quoting said that it was, um, quoting now receiving a number of patients who are being cared for by our specialist clinical teams . we know that there was the air ambulance scene as well. ambulance on the scene as well. mark so there is the potential, sadly, for the situation to actually get worse. >> yeah, this was a full emergency service response just a mile or so away from the all england club where wimbledon is taking place . so a lot of taking place. so a lot of resources very nearby anyway. but when they arrived on scene, they were aware that this was out of the norm . this was a very out of the norm. this was a very significant incident with

multiple casualties . so that's multiple casualties. so that's why you got a very large emergency service response aukus with many ambulances. emergency service response aukus with many ambulances . these with many ambulances. these hazardous response vehicles, which are run by the ambulance service to give highly trained professional paramedics who are used to dealing with tricky situations where people are badly injured and may be trapped in a situation as well. they responded . london fire brigade responded. london fire brigade rescue appliances attended with their specialist cutting gear as well. >> yeah, indeed. exactly that. so around 20 ambulances were parked on camp road to fire and rescue vehicles as well. we've mentioned the air ambulance firefighters there seen carrying various different cutting equipment. and i think it's interesting to try to for people who don't know the area, paint a little bit of a picture of the scene. so there was some kind of children's tea party taking place at this school. and the vehicle, a gold coloured land

roven vehicle, a gold coloured land rover, it would appear, has essentially careered through that. >> yeah, the school itself is right on the edge of wimbledon common. it's opposite it. wimbledon, common golf club. it's i mean, it's more villagey of a field than than being a suburb of london. it's very narrow roads around there where you can't really do a lot of speed anyway to be honest. and yes, you're right. there was this event taking place as schools right across the country do on the last day of term just to send the pupils off with a bit of a smile looking ahead to their their holidays or summer holidays. and that's what was happening. it was a good day . happening. it was a good day. they were out there. there was trestle tables set up with white tablecloths that could still be seen in some of the images that have come out from the scene . have come out from the scene. and indeed, alongside those tables where the party food

would have been , where these would have been, where these these paramedics blankets on the ground . ground. >> and just a reminder for everybody, we are awaiting this police press statement from , um, police press statement from, um, wimbledon. were we can actually go there now . so this is the go there now. so this is the police press statement. lisa nandy posted to the microphones i >> -- >> please . pat cullen , the pc >> please. pat cullen, the pc commander for south—west london, dr. john martin, chief paramedic, london ambulance service deputy assistant commissioner andy pennock, london fire brigade . london fire brigade. >> john tucker, chair of the board of governors of the study preparatory school. helen lowe, headmistress of the study preparatory school. >> shami headmistress elect . >> shami headmistress elect. okay good afternoon, my name is claire kelland. >> i'm the local policing commander for southwest london

and i'm here to give you an update following today's tragic accident here in wimbledon . we accident here in wimbledon. we were called shortly before 10:00 this morning after a car collided with a building at the study prep school behind me in camp road, a large number of our officers were deployed to the scene, along with paramedics and the london air ambulance . and the london air ambulance. and london ambulance service . london ambulance service. >> our officers, along with colleagues from other emergency services , provided first aid to services, provided first aid to a number of people who had been injured . very sadly, one of the injured. very sadly, one of the children, an eight year old girl, died at the scene . girl, died at the scene. >> our thoughts are with her family at this incredibly difficult time . difficult time. >> the driver of a car, a woman agedin >> the driver of a car, a woman aged in her 40s, stopped at the scene and has since been arrested for causing death by dangerous driving and remains in police custody . police custody. >> this is a very difficult time for everyone here at the school and across the wider community.

>> we would ask people not to speculate while we work to understand the full circumstances of what has happened during this tragic incident. >> but i will say we are not treating this as a terrorist incident. >> our officers have already spoken to a number of witnesses and have viewed cctv . if anyone and have viewed cctv. if anyone has any information , please has any information, please either call 101 or speak with officers at the scene . any officers at the scene. any information that can assist as we try to work out what's happened today, i will now hand you to dr. john martin from the ambulance london ambulance service, who can provide more details about their response. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm john martin, the chief paramedic for london ambulance service. can i begin by saying on behalf of the london ambulance service, that our thoughts are with all of those involved into this morning's incident .7 morning's incident? >> at 954, we received a 999 call to a collision on camp road in wimbledon. we dispatched multiple resources, including special critical care paramedics. >> london's air ambulance and 15

ambulances. >> we declared a major incident and stood up a specialist operations centre . we treated 16 operations centre. we treated 16 patients on scene . sadly, as patients on scene. sadly, as we've heard , one eight year old we've heard, one eight year old girl died. we conveyed ten patients to hospital . patients to hospital. >> we want to thank our staff who worked hard and tirelessly whilst on scene and also to the school staff and members of the pubuc school staff and members of the public who helped in those early moments . moments. >> our hearts go out to all those involved in today's tragic incident . those involved in today's tragic incident. i'll those involved in today's tragic incident . i'll now hand over to incident. i'll now hand over to andy from the london fire brigade . brigade. >> good afternoon, everybody . my >> good afternoon, everybody. my name is andy pennick from the london fire brigade. i'm deputy assistant commissioner for the south—east area. i'd like to start by echoing the thoughts from john and claire around this tragic incident. and our thoughts go out to the study preparatory school family and friends of all those affected by today's tragic incident. >> london fire brigade crews were called to scene this morning where they initially be

assisted by making emergency access for police and ambulance colleagues and then supported london ambulance service paramedics in administering immediate emergency care to members of the public that were injured as part of this incident. >> we are now prepared and will support the study preparatory school and the wider community through our community engagement function . and we will also be function. and we will also be supporting our staff who responded to this tragic incident. i'd like to close by thanking london ambulance metropolitan police , the local metropolitan police, the local school and local community who all stepped forward to support everybody involved in today's tragic incident. thank you. >> thank you, andy. i'll now take a couple of questions. bbc news. >> i'm so sorry for all of you for what's happened at the school today . school today. >> i wondered if i could ask you to just to give us a sense of sort of what was happening before the crash happened and what was the scene after and

what was the scene after and what you need to do in terms of the investigation and if i may, to ask you, the chair of governors and the headteacher , i governors and the headteacher, i mean, this is absolutely devastating for the school. >> can you give us your thoughts as to what this tragedy means for you, the parents and the pupils? maybe we can start with you if that's all right, because we haven't heard from you. >> you perhaps appreciate that the is the school community is profoundly affected by this tragedy and at the moment, we're really not in a position to make any further comment about it. >> we will be in communication with all those in the community about the further steps that we as a school will be taking . as a school will be taking. >> claire, can i just ask the investigation what happened here? do we know how a car could plough into a school on such a quiet road? that's what everybody wants to know. i don't think it would be appropriate for me to speculate. it's very early in the investigation, and we to kind of we obviously need to kind of unpick there's a lot of unpick it. there's a lot of witnesses , as can imagine.

witnesses, as you can imagine. the scene was very, very crowded, very busy , very crowded, very busy, very chaotic. i don't think it chaotic. and i don't think it would be appropriate for me to speculate. we're speculate. as i've said, we're not treating it as a terrorist incident. but other than that, i can't any further. can't comment any further. >> what can you tell us about the next the investigation? >> i know this woman been >> i know this woman has been arrested, your arrested, but what is your priority the hours and priority in the coming hours and days? >> well, our priority will to be identify all witnesses to get their account of what happened , their account of what happened, to view the cctv . obviously, to view the cctv. obviously, there's a person in custody that will have to be interviewed and from that stage onwards, we'll have to review the evidence and make a decision about what actually happened. but it's very early an end of early on. was this an end of term party at the heads able to say, was this it looked like an end of term gathering? i think we'll leave it there. i think we've taken enough questions, but just ask but i think that's we just ask on the severity of the other injuries, are we likely to have more fatalities? i can say injuries, are we likely to have m4thisatalities? i can say injuries, are we likely to have m

everybody. >> very much, >> thank you very much, everybody. you. >> thank you very much, evethank. you. >> thank you very much, evethank you. you. >> thank you very much, eveokay. you. you. >> thank you very much, eveokay. so u. you. >> thank you very much, eveokay. so that you.a statement >> okay. so that was a statement and conference from and a brief conference from representatives of the police , representatives of the police, the fire service, the paramedic service , the board of governors, service, the board of governors, andindeed service, the board of governors, and indeed , head mistress at the and indeed, head mistress at the school as well . the updates from school as well. the updates from that were that there were actually 16 people requiring treatment at the scene, which happened shortly after. 9:50 am. this morning at the preparatory school in wimbledon. ten of those people were taken to hospital. one an eight year old girl has sadly now died. there no update on the there was no update on the condition of the other people in hospital, as we hospital, although, as we understand it, they are receiving and receiving specialist care. and one in her 40s has, of one woman in her 40s has, of course, been arrested on suspicion death by suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . mark white, dangerous driving. mark white, our security editor, is with me in the studio right now. now, claire callan, there is the detective chief super intendent of the police in that area was incredibly emotional as she was talking. >> yeah, i mean, her voice broke. you can understand she's

been greeted with a scene herself as the commanding officer where she will have seen things that will have taken an emotional toll. so understandably . well, i think understandably. well, i think the reaction from this particular officer here, interestingly , we got that interestingly, we got that confirmation of more in the way of people that require treatment than we had initially been told. so we've been told that nine people had been injured. one had subsequently died. this eight year old schoolgirl. but that left eight others who were injured. but now we're being told that 16, as you say , people told that 16, as you say, people require treatment there at the scene and ten of those were taken to hospital. what we didn't get from that at all was any indication about the conditions of those people. but we have been told that and this has come from a number of people, including the local mp in the area, who has been speaking to police commanders ,

speaking to police commanders, that some of those injured are in a serious and critical condition in they are being helped out by specialist trauma teams . the london ambulance teams. the london ambulance service, patrick, told us that they had dispatched eight critical care specialist paramedics, 15 ambulances. the london air ambulance as well, and they dealt along. and the first in minutes after this, alongside colleagues from the police who were there in force for the tournament at wimbledon . they responded very quickly and helped because of the sheer number of casualties that they were dealing with . it was were dealing with. it was everybody pitching in and just helping until more resources could arrive on scene. >> absolutely. and that was one thing that came across there from the head paramedic , the from the head paramedic, the chief paramedic at the london ambulance service, john martin, who thanked people on the scene for their quick response. parents passers by, witnesses

there is an appeal, of course, for witnesses. what the police said there, though, we were very clear about this, is that they have reviewed cctv kyiv of this incident . they are not treating incident. they are not treating it terror related . but mark it as terror related. but mark thought it was interesting that they said beyond that, we are not going to speculate at the moment. >> yes, there have been these reports that the woman driver of this vehicle might have suffered a medical episode . that might a medical episode. that might still be true, but but they just don't want to be drawn on that at this stage. they've been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. now that doesn't necessarily mean that doesn't necessarily mean that they thought that the individual was recklessly driving. it's part of police procedure where you activate the case, you're taking statement from that person. then it may be used in a court of law a later date. so they're often placed under arrest in these early stages. >> yeah, there was a question there about the condition of some of the other children and

adults who are currently being treated for their injuries. it's worth noting that another revelation that came out, sadly, of that conference was that the eight year old girl died at the scene and they did not pass comments on whether i mean, the question that was asked at that press conference was, is there likely to be more fatalities? and they simply would not be drawn on that. but it clearly does, mark, paint a picture of a very, very serious incident that unfortunately, i think we can acknowledge has the potential to get even more serious. >> yes . i get even more serious. >> yes. i mean, in the first instance, what often happens , instance, what often happens, even with severely injured people, is that they're treated at the scene because what they want to try and do is stabilise a patient before they then try and transfer them to hospital in years gone by, they'd put them in the back of an ambulance, get them to hospital. as quickly as possible. doing possible. the danger of doing thatis possible. the danger of doing that is you've not stabilised the person giving them that life

saving treatment . that's why saving treatment. that's why they fly the air ambulance out with trained doctors, even land cars. they have the flying doctors in these land cars. rapid response to the scene and they can get that kind of crucial trauma to care that's required in the early stages just to try to ensure that that person has the best possible chance on the route to hospital. and that's quite often why then someone dies at the scene, because they stay with them sometimes for hours , trying to sometimes for hours, trying to stabilise them and work on them, and eventually they die by the scene rather than getting to hospital. but we do know that some people who are seriously injured were taken to hospital as well. >> yeah. and just in terms of the location as well, it's worth reminding people that there is that common there. that wimbledon common there. it's area locally it's in an area known locally as the when it comes the quadrant. so when it comes to rapid response vehicles , to rapid response vehicles, there is the space for them to go. but also crucially, our

ambulances, which why they go. but also crucially, our amblableas, which why they go. but also crucially, our amblableas, get ch why they go. but also crucially, our amblableas, get there nhy they go. but also crucially, our amblableas, get there andthey go. but also crucially, our amblableas, get there and land. were able to get there and land. so quickly and get out the scene so quickly. hopefully that so quickly. so hopefully that will have had some kind of mitigating at least mitigating effect on at least a few of the people who are injured there. another question that at press that was asked at that press conference and the that conference and the lady that asked was absolutely asked it was was absolutely right that she phrased right the way that she phrased it, was i the it, which was that i think the question that everybody wants to know and how know is really why and how a gold coloured land rover, big vehicle was able to drive into a group of children and teachers, adults, etcetera , at some kind adults, etcetera, at some kind of end of year tea party for the children. they the police officer there, claire callan , officer there, claire callan, said, looked quite stern when she responded to that and just said, we're not in a position to comment on that at the minute. but that really is the question, i think, mark, isn't it? yeah >> i mean, if she knows she doesn't want to say at this stage anyway, they they she said that you know, there's a lot of

witnesses . it was a crowded witnesses. it was a crowded scene. they are still trying. she says, to establish exactly what happened. the multiple potential causes is, of course, someone distracted and at the wheel a mechanical fault that takes over the vehicle as well . takes over the vehicle as well. and in that sense, a medical episode where we've seen it on multiple all occasions all over the world in the past, where people can take an effect or a heart attack or something at the wheel, the revolts that convulse and, you know, their foot hits the pedal and the vehicle careers out of control. so lots of different potential explanation as she doesn't want people to speculate . but the people to speculate. but the trouble is, if you don't give people an indication of the direction of travel of which you're going in an investigation, then that's just exactly what people will do . exactly what people will do. >> i think what he's100% clear from the press conference that we just had there from representatives from both the

police service, the paramedics , police service, the paramedics, also the fire service at the board of governors and the headteacher at that school. was that clearly , this is an that clearly, this is an incredibly shocking situation . incredibly shocking situation. it's been a very, very fast moving situation, incredibly unusual as well. and they are very much still trying to piece together exactly what on earth has gone on there. but i will just recap the facts as we know them moment in time. at them at this moment in time. at 9:54 this morning, emerged 9:54 am. this morning, emerged tree services were called to the scene of that preparatory school in to reports that in wimbledon to reports that a gold land rover had driven into a group of children. sadly, an eight year old girl died at the scene. 16 people were injured , scene. 16 people were injured, ten of which are still in hospital . some of them are hospital. some of them are understood to be in a very, very serious condition . and a woman serious condition. and a woman in her 40s has been arrested now on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. those are the latest facts, as we understand them. we will, of course, have more on this and any updates as we get them throughout the

course of this show. but now we're also going to be talking about a lot of other topics as well. of course , when we come well. of course, when we come back, we're going to be discussing, of course, the latest when it comes to the illegal migration bill, which did, of course, get another battering in the house of lords last night. when it comes to whether or not they are going to be able to actually implement all of this. and there are even calls to place channel migrants on some islands off the coast of the uk. so we'll be talking all about that. patrick christys on gb news, britain's news

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dangers of a cashless society. remember, you can sign our petition right now at gb news .com forward slash cash. but we'll have more on that story throughout the course of the afternoon. now, though, to the latest on the illegal migration bill the battle lines have bill and the battle lines have been well and truly drawn between government and the between the government and the house unelected peers house of lords. unelected peers inflicted a total of 20 defeats against plans to tackle the against the plans to tackle the small boats crisis. bear mind small boats crisis. bear in mind there other there are 11 defeats. the other night as well. justin welby of course the archbishop of canterbury, has yet again led the way in the lords. he wants the way in the lords. he wants the to draw up a ten the government to draw up a ten year strategy for collaborating internationally both internationally to tackle both the crisis and human the refugee crisis and human trafficking. but the archbishop of canterbury has been told his proposals are a non policy. there is also some fascinating ideas about what we should do in terms of looking after child migrants . and there we go. the migrants. and there we go. the man who said, though, that the archbishop of canterbury should essentially butt out because it's non policy is conservative peer lord peter lilley. and i'm

very grateful to say he joins me now. thank you very, much. now. thank you very, very much. great you on the show. great to have you on the show. it appears to me that the house of lords trying to draw of lords is just trying to draw up own policy here and up its own policy here and present that to the government, and not their is it ? >> well, 7 >> well, their ? >> well, their job is to suggest amendments and changes and improvements in bills , but improvements in bills, but they've gone way beyond that . they've gone way beyond that. not the whole house of lords , not the whole house of lords, obviously, but a coalition of lawyers and bureaucratic mandarins and other self—important people have decided to eviscerate this bill without putting forward any alternative kyiv actually, to be fair , the archbishop is the one fair, the archbishop is the one person in that coalition who has acknowledged that we have to have an alternative and that we can't allow unlimited numbers of people to come into this country. all the lawyers refuse to offer any alternative or even tried to do so and won't answer any questions about the implications of what they're doing to this bill, which is

effectively to leave us with open borders . open borders. >> well, that's exactly what's happening . but also not just the happening. but also not just the open borders . peter, it's open borders. lord peter, it's the idea that we can be continually people as continually gamed by people as well, to be children well, pretending to be children a later in the a little bit later on in the show, i've to unearth show, i've managed to unearth some pretty devastating statistics about the amount of people be children statistics about the amount of people actually be children statistics about the amount of people actually adults. children statistics about the amount of people actually adults. chilrthe and are actually adults. and the way go about judging way that we go about judging whether or not they are children as which basically as well, which is basically in a nutshell, or nutshell, based on whether or not visibly under the not they visibly look under the age 25. i mean, this isn't age of 25. i mean, this isn't tesco's, this isn't a wetherspoons where you go in and they look at you and they try to ask your licence. ask for your driver's licence. if like you might be if you look like you might be under country for under 25. this is a country for goodness and yet we're goodness sake. and yet we're applying basically the same methods. indeed. and it's in any case, >> indeed. and it's in any case, the cut off of what they call a child is 18 years. it's purely arbitrary for a whole load of purposes . you know, in scotland, purposes. you know, in scotland, you can vote at the age of 16. until recently, you could get married and have a family at that age. and you can join the armed forces, though, not fight while you're 16. so it's

while you're16. so it's arbitrary. and to say that it's perfectly reasonable to send someone away when they're 18 years and one month, but a terrible crime against humanity if they're 17 years and six months. and if you can't be sure which it is, you have to assume there's 17 years and six months and let them stay, which is, you know , the whole thing was know, the whole thing was trivial . and there were no there trivial. and there were no there was no serious debate about it. and i unfortunately wasn't able to speak in that debate and left it too late and was sort of timed out. >> well, when you look at public attitudes towards and this is legal immigration now, even remainers ,15% more remainers remainers, 15% more remainers now acknowledge that legal migration is too high. it has been too high for the last ten years. so the idea in the house of lords that they think they're doing some kind of great public service, i think to the nation of britain to , as far as service, i think to the nation ocan tain to , as far as service, i think to the nation ocan tell to , as far as service, i think to the nation ocan tell anyway, , as far as service, i think to the nation ocan tell anyway, allowar as service, i think to the nation ocan tell anyway, allow for|s i can tell anyway, allow for illegal immigration and what's going in channel going on in the channel to continue is directly continue unabated is directly against the will of the people . against the will of the people. how would respond to a how would you respond to a suggestion was floated

suggestion that was floated today? again, something i'll be talking bit later talking about a little bit later on not we on about whether or not we should a couple of should use a couple of uninhabited islands off uninhabited little islands off the in to order the coast of britain in to order act centres . i act as processing centres. i think the problem is they would still be subject to british law. >> british judges who've been given effectively discretion in a whole range of these matters which gives rise to all the problems. so either we have to hand them over to another country whose judiciary operate it. still international law, but interpret it differently from us. or we'll find that our judges would extend their jurisdiction to whatever island it is off the uk or ascension island or south georgia or wherever. and we have the same problems. i suspect the only solution is to take away what is intrinsic , basically a political intrinsic, basically a political decision , a judgement from the decision, a judgement from the judges and the courts , and take judges and the courts, and take it back to parliament to take these decisions. it is in a way

it's not the fault of the judges if they are politicised by giving being given political decisions to make. so we should depoliticise them by taking the judgements back to parliament. >> you are obviously a lord. you are a member of the house of lords. are you slightly conflicted about this because some people like me are trying to use this at times as an example of the negatives of the house of lords? are they out of touch? is stifling the will touch? is it stifling the will of people and stifling of the people and stifling government calls for the government policy? calls for the house again, whenever house of lords again, whenever a situation arises is situation like this arises is frankly you to be abolished? frankly for you to be abolished? i'm do you think i'm afraid. what do you think about that? >> well , the parliament has. >> well, the parliament has. sorry the house of lords has only one power, and that's to make the house of commons think again. of again. and if the house of commons considers all these absurd amendments have absurd amendments which have been large been passed by a large majorities in some cases in the house of lords and rejects them and sends them back to the lords, we may have a period of what's called pong going what's called ping pong going back . they may back and forth. they may be modified, ultimately the

modified, but ultimately the house of lords will either have to accept the will of the house of commons, which is very clear, or if it tries to defeat the whole bill, it can delay it for a year . but whole bill, it can delay it for a year. but then if opt outs, it loses any right for further revision or amendment . now i revision or amendment. now i don't think they will defeat it because the labour party want to see be seen to defeat this bill. >> just just on that, it's a really, really crucial point that i think you've made there actually, which is about the length of time they can drag this on for. do you think this is what we are witnessing now, which of the which is the members of the house think, look, if house of lords think, look, if we can kick this back and forth house of lords think, look, if we another this back and forth house of lords think, look, if we another year, back and forth house of lords think, look, if we another year, then and forth house of lords think, look, if we another year, then and fora for another year, then there's a chance that it won't happen at all have a general all and we'll have a general election of goes election and all of this goes away. mean, realistically, is away. i mean, realistically, is that is happening ? >> 7- >> no, i 7— >> no, i don't 7 >> no, i don't think that's happening at the moment. i think the lawyers are having field the lawyers are having a field day. very righteous day. i'm feeling very righteous and oh, that's all right. >> i think we might have lost lord peter. lily, there, unfortunately. but i think we got to the crux of what he was

saying. there was conservative peen saying. there was conservative peer, lord peter now peer, lord peter lily. now there's different levels there's lots of different levels and to this illegal and layers to this illegal migration bill that we'll be talking today . but one of talking about today. but one of the that the the provisions in it that the house was very keen to house of lords was very keen to look at was length of time look at was the length of time that can detain children. i that we can detain children. i have doing bit of have been doing a bit of research amount of research into the amount of people be children research into the amount of people out be children research into the amount of people out to be children research into the amount of people out to be be children research into the amount of people out to be adults hildren research into the amount of people out to be adults hilthey turned out to be adults as they cross channel and other cross the channel and other routes britain as well. and cross the channel and other routeas britain as well. and cross the channel and other routeas wellyritain as well. and cross the channel and other routeas well some as well. and cross the channel and other routeas well some of well. and cross the channel and other routeas well some of the l. and also as well some of the devastating consequences that also as well some of the devahasing consequences that also as well some of the deva has had. )nsequences that also as well some of the deva has had. forequences that also as well some of the deva has had. for example, hat also as well some of the deva has had. for example, the that has had. for example, the parsons bomber turned out parsons green bomber turned out to child. so we're to not be a child. so we're talking about all that. and talking about all of that. and this that as well this idea that maybe as well we could some islands could use some kind of islands off the coast of britain as an offshore processing centre. but off the coast of britain as an odorore processing centre. but off the coast of britain as an odo haverocessing centre. but off the coast of britain as an odo have some.ing centre. but off the coast of britain as an odo have some breakinga. but off the coast of britain as an odo have some breaking news for i do have some breaking news for you now . connor chapman been you now. connor chapman has been found guilty at liverpool crown court of the murder of elle edwards, who was shot outside the lighthouse pub in wallasey village wirral on christmas eve last year. so that breaking news is that connor chapman has been found guilty at liverpool crown court murder of elle court of the murder of elle edwards, who was shot outside the wallasey the lighthouse pub in wallasey village christmas eve

village wirral on christmas eve last year . those muscles come last year. those muscles come between now and 4:00 sir keir starmer speech this morning was interrupted by climate activists . we will tell you exactly what he said when the protest died down. and we're going to get the reaction from tory mp and a former teacher, jonathan gullace. he holds back. gullace. he never holds back. always great value. first, always great value. but first, it your latest it is indeed your latest headunes it is indeed your latest headlines with . rihanna headlines with. rihanna >> thank you, patrick. it's the 335. your top stories from the newsroom . i'm an eight year old newsroom. i'm an eight year old girl has died after a land rover crashed into a primary school in wimbledon in south—west london. officers were called just before ten this morning to the study prep school in camp road, 16 people were treated at the scene . ten were taken to hospital . . ten were taken to hospital. police say the driver, a woman in her 40s, has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. detective chief superintendent claire

keelan says the incident isn't being treated as terror related officers, along with colleagues from other emergency services , from other emergency services, provided first aid to a number of people who had been injured . of people who had been injured. >> very sadly, one of the children, an eight year old girl, died at the scene . our girl, died at the scene. our thoughts are with her family at this incredibly difficult time . this incredibly difficult time. the driver of a car, a woman agedin the driver of a car, a woman aged in her 40s, stopped at the scene and has since been arrested for causing death by dangerous driving and remains in police custody . police custody. >> the cabinet office has lost its legal challenge over the covid inquiry's request for bofis covid inquiry's request for boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages. the cabinet office had argued the material would be irrelevant. however, the high court has ruled the inquiry must be given access to the messages. a government spokesperson says it will comply fully with the judgement and the government's launched a bid to

take its rwanda deportation policy to the supreme court last week . the court of appeal week. the court of appeal overturned an earlier high court ruling, which found rwanda could be considered a safe third country. it comes as the house of lords dealt a blow to the government, rejecting its illegal migration bill. mps will now consider a series of amendment . now consider a series of amendment. it's. now consider a series of amendment. it's . for retired amendment. it's. for retired police officers involved in the first stephen lawrence murder investigation will not face criminal charges for misconduct . the crown prosecution service says it's satisfied the national crime agency had fully investigated their actions following the murder in 1993. the initial investigation failed to bring anyone to justice. two of stephen's murderers were eventually jailed in 2012 . and eventually jailed in 2012. and in breaking news, 23 year old connor chapman has been found guilty at liverpool crown court of the murder of elle edwards woods. she was shot outside the

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his plans for education was interrupted by protesters. >> this morning. the labour leader said children should be taught how to express themselves as he pledged to improve speaking skills. and it seems that the activists agreed as they loudly called for a green new deal. here's what happened . new deal. here's what happened. >> reinstate your pledge for 28 billion per year. i came on the mission on green power. >> we did that last one. >> we did that last one. >> we've done that one. will you just which side are the labor party on? >> we are on the side of economic growth. will you just let me please get on with this? >> thank you very much . >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> stop making phones here. >> stop making phones here. >> we have already . >> we have already. >> we have already. >> will you just let me finish this and i'll come and talk to you about it. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> we to speak to you about >> we try to speak to you about it, you haven't replied to it, but you haven't replied to us. look, we need a green new deal and you deal right now. look. and you keep my last speech was keep making my last speech was about will you, please? about this, will you, please? there's who want there's lots of people who want to this. to hear this. >> please don't drown them out. please don't them out. please don't drown them out. thank much. thank you

thank you very much. thank you very . very much. >> em- e very much. em— very much. >> very much. so quite awkward. >> that actually wasn't it initially. quite a polite protester there. i thought it was quite difficult to differentiate who was the protester and who were just some of the kids that were standing protester and who were just some of the ihim. hat were standing protester and who were just some of the ihim. apparentlyanding protester and who were just some of the ihim. apparentlyandiris behind him. apparently this is a group new deal group called green new deal rising. so there we are . make rising. so there we are. make sure etched into your sure they are etched into your memory. there did actually , just memory. there did actually, just on general safety perspective on a general safety perspective , though, this something that , though, this is something that i becoming increasingly i am becoming increasingly concerned we've concerned about. i know we've got we've had got wimbledon. we've had lourdes, had, think to lourdes, we've had, i think to a lesser extent, chelsea lesser extent, the chelsea flower show in the opera, but also when it comes to keir starmer, he's a starmer, for example, he's a massive political figure and someone was allowed to get right behind him there and stay there for absolutely ages . anyway, i'm for absolutely ages. anyway, i'm joined now by conservative mp and former teacher jonathan gullies. jonathan, thank you very much . look, let's just deal very much. look, let's just deal , i suppose, with what he was actually trying to say, shall we? first, which is about his big new education policy. so he wants to slash or smash even the

class ceiling for working class people. he's begging up the idea of doing vocational courses as well as just academic learning. and he's also talking about children being able to speak properly. what do you make of all of this? >> well, i've got great concern because when we came into office in 2010, labour's legacy was that 350,000 young people were failed by taking up courses that had little to no market value labour whatsoever. >> the cbi said that british business had lost confidence in exam system that it had, and the sutton trust found that only 40 out of 80,000 eligible free school meal pupils ended up at oxbridge. so i think the actual record of labour when it bangs on about education, education, education was actually that they built lots of shiny new buildings with whopping pfi deals that we've got sadly plagued across stoke on trent. >> educational >> but the actual educational standards outcomes didn't standards and outcomes didn't actually improve and were actually improve and we were falling down. international league. league tables . and if league. league tables. and if you at labour wales to you look at labour run wales to this still remain well

this day, they still remain well depher lagging behind england where we've just become where we know we've just become the fourth country in the the fourth best country in the world, best in the west when world, the best in the west when it comes to phonics, climbing up league it comes to league tables, when it comes to maths reading 88% of schools maths and reading 88% of schools now rated good and outstanding up from so actually we've up from 68. so actually we've got a really strong record. the gove gibian reforms of 2010. thatis gove gibian reforms of 2010. that is michael gove and nick gibb, who's the obviously still current school current minister for school standards , has really had standards, has really had a positive upon the positive impact upon the education system, really reforming education have reforming the education to have a rich curriculum a knowledge rich curriculum because can't be a critical because you can't be a critical thinker in a subject unless you've knowledge you've got the knowledge about the itself to then the subject itself to then critically analyse and i think that's something that keir starmer seem to quite understand. >> it does appear to be a complete reversal what complete reversal of what tony blair when talking blair wanted when he was talking about education education. about education and education. education, as can education, which as far as i can tell just resulted load tell is just resulted in a load of taking mickey mouse of people taking mickey mouse degrees right across the country and themselves with a and saddling themselves with a lifetime i suppose lifetime of debt. so i suppose at comes to that, at least when it comes to that, keir appears to keir starmer appears to be better . better. >> well, i would say one thing

again, and that's labour's pledge for 6500 more teachers to be recruited now he obviously skips over the fact that we've actually got 27,000 more teachers in the system than we had in 2010. but let's look at what wants to do. he wants what he wants to do. he wants to put school fees put vat on private school fees to this. now, whilst i to fund this. now, whilst i understand there's an ideological for that , ideological argument for that, let's get to the bare bones of what conservative let's get to the bare bones of what co has vative let's get to the bare bones of what co has beene let's get to the bare bones of what co has been doing, government has been doing, which is the starting is we've now got the starting salary a new teacher salary for a new teacher starting at £30,000 as of september this year. you can get a bursary in certain subjects up to £28,000 if you live in an education investment area and you teach certain subjects where it's hard to recruit, you can get up to £3,000 as a tax free bonus payment. ultimately, what we're doing is everything we can. labour have still not can. yet labour have still not laid how exactly they would laid out how exactly they would recruit 6500 teachers , recruit 6500 new teachers, beanng recruit 6500 new teachers, bearing in mind that we've done all this and throwing all this money, hundreds of millions of pounds taxpayers money in pounds of taxpayers money in order to recruit, whilst also not acknowledging their not acknowledging that their supposed from the supposed fundraising from the vat school fees will vat on private school fees will of course actually reduce it as

pupils pull out of fee paying schools. this hits middle class and middle income households , and middle income households, kids who have worked tremendously hard and use all their disposable income to send their disposable income to send their those types of their kids to those types of schools new schools rather than buy the new car, their home, or buy car, extend their home, or buy a new because ultimately new property, because ultimately they want to give their children every life. that's every head start in life. that's what my parents chose to do. you know, 70% know, my father using around 70% of income in of his disposable income in order to fund my education because wanted me not be because he wanted me to not be failed the as he felt failed by the state as he felt he been in the 60s and he had been back in the 60s and early is interesting cause he >> it is interesting cause he talks smashing class talks about smashing the class ceiling, doesn't he? you've hit on a couple of figures there. so 6500 extra teachers in a shortage of subjects like maths for example, paid for by removing the tax breaks for private schools. they calculate this raise around £1 this will raise around £1 billion i wonder whether billion a year. i wonder whether or not like a lot of the labour party policies, this ends up being a one time payment because as to there, as you've alluded to there, well, leave and well, then people leave and then they paying, don't they? so they stop paying, don't they? so there also there you go. and he also wants to the additional to to use the additional funding to pay to use the additional funding to pay close to two and a

pay teachers close to two and a half grand retention bonus to try to stop a load of teachers leaving . but i would argue that leaving. but i would argue that a good way of smashing the class system is to continue to allow a lot of working class kids to actually go to private schools and not trying to demonise them i >> -- >> well, exactly. at the end of the day, private schools have plenty of scholarships schemes. of course, there are things that private schools could do more access to their facilities, sharing resources sharing their resources and materials don't that materials. i don't think that they're perfect, this they're perfect, but this idea that are elite that private schools are elite list, well, actually they're going to become elitist because you're your harrow's you're eaton's and your harrow's of they can swallow of this world. they can swallow the 20% vat fee. those parents will afford it's will be able to afford it. it's the middle areas. the middle class income areas. it's those parents who scrimp and save people like stoke and save people like in stoke on trent, work on the factory trent, who work on the factory floor churchill, or floor of churchill, china, or those who their own those who run their own independent businesses . independent small businesses. you are the people you know, these are the people who personal who decide to make that personal choice. say , the choice. and as you say, the bonus they're bonus scheme that they're talking will to a talking about will go to a teacher after second year of teacher after the second year of their . they've trouble their teaching. they've trouble actually own figures

actually in labour's own figures was that after 11 years, see was that after 11 years, we see a drop of around 50% of those people staying in the profession. what we actually profession. so what we actually need system that pays need is a system that pays teachers, particularly after year five, goes down to year five, where it goes down to 6 in 10 teachers staying in the profession, rather than the 8 to 9 of after year two. 9 out of ten after year two. these small technical these are small technical things i i'm probably i appreciate. i'm probably sounding like a bit of a bore, but it's important to make sure that the money goes that ultimately the money goes in the right place rather than well, here is sally just well, i think here is sally just virtue at the of virtue signalling at the end of the day. virtue signalling at the end of the well, no, i mean, sound >> well, no, i mean, you sound like who's on top of his like a man who's on top of his brief, with you, brief, to be honest with you, and got some lived and someone who's got some lived experience having experience of actually having worked a school which is worked in a school which is quite hear quite nice really, to hear someone like look, just someone like that. look, just another big topics. another one of your big topics. very if very quickly, jonathan, if that's because that's all right, because i'm doing in the next doing a lot on these in the next couple hours of this couple of hours of this show discussion about whether not discussion about whether or not we're a ride by we're being taken for a ride by people to be children people pretending to be children and gaming our asylum and and gaming our asylum system and whether or should put whether or not we should put channel on some islands channel migrants on some islands somewhere off the coast of the uk. views on uk. very quickly, your views on both things, because both of those things, because actually adults actually some of those adults end up in schools. >> first of one of my

>> well, first of all, one of my biggest concerns that we've biggest concerns is that we've not the age not started using the age testing approved under testing that was approved under the nationality and borders act and therefore, we're and as you say, therefore, we're having their and as you say, therefore, we're havi|value. their and as you say, therefore, we're havi|value. and their and as you say, therefore, we're havi|value. and when their and as you say, therefore, we're havi|value. and when there air face value. and when there was this reported alleged 200 children that missing, children that went missing, let's were let's not forget that we were told minister for told by the minister for immigration, 95% of them were allegedly age that allegedly 16 to 17, the age that traffickers smugglers traffickers and smugglers actively people to actively tell these people to claim they are they think claim they are if they think they away with it they can get away with it because they will increase their chances of being to remain chances of being able to remain in kingdom. in the united kingdom. so i think absolutely think we need to absolutely enact testing and something enact age testing and something that also put into that john hayes also put into the illegal migration bill, that john hayes also put into the illigal migration bill, that john hayes also put into the h“ fully.igration bill, that john hayes also put into the h“ fully supportedll, well. which i fully supported as well. secondly idea about secondly with your idea about islands let's say coast islands off, let's say the coast of united kingdom , i of our united kingdom, i absolutely ultimately absolutely think that ultimately these be looked at these ideas should be looked at and explored . i've got and explored. i've got no problem them whatsoever problem with them whatsoever ehhen problem with them whatsoever either, because ultimately what we have people we can't do is have people clogging up hotels, clogging up housing, away housing, which is taking away from social tenants who want to access those properties. so i say, let's look at all the ideas, but actually let's also use the pushback powers that again, we have under the nationality and borders act like the greeks right now.

the greeks are doing right now. and australians and like the australians successfully in the as successfully did in the past as well. >> e“- e stuff. jonathan, >> okay, good stuff. jonathan, thank much. always thank you very much. always a pleasure. jonathan galassi is a conservative mp and former teacher . for what it was teacher as well. for what it was worth, we initially started talking starmer talking about keir starmer education gb news education policy. now to gb news his campaign. don't kill his new campaign. don't kill cash as britain starts moving towards a cashless society, we are calling on the government to protect the status of cash as a widely accepted means of payment in the uk until at least 2050 and maybe some people out there sort a fantastic response by the way. but maybe some people out there are thinking, well, why does this matter? our does this matter? well, our economics editor economics and business editor liam halligan is going to tell you fast becoming you britain is fast becoming cashless in the wake of covid. >> more and more shops, cafes and pubs only accept card payments . yet 5 million of us in payments. yet 5 million of us in the uk still rely on cash, including some of the most vulnerable , being convenient for vulnerable, being convenient for poorer paid people. >> older people , people who struggle.

>> perhaps more with technology, cash should always be an option for them. >> people that are homeless can't get bank accounts, so we rely on cash to get paid when we get benefits. a cashless get benefits. so a cashless society would us in quite society would affect us in quite a way. would be a big, big way. it would be great if we could still have cash, but it's not going to happen by 2030. all cashless back in 2012, 60% of all uk transactions has used cash with the rise of debit cards and smartphones . smartphones. >> that's now fallen to 30. but that's still 6 billion transactions a year. by that's still 6 billion transactions a year . by 2035, transactions a year. by 2035, the industry group uk finance says less than 10% of payments will use cash . and since 2018, will use cash. and since 2018, 20% of atms bank cash dispensers have closed , resulting in have closed, resulting in so—called cash deserts. just yesterday , train operators yesterday, train operators warned hundreds of ticket offices will shut just the latest businesses keen to avoid the costs of handling cash . that the costs of handling cash. that means relying on ticket machines or using debit cards or phone

apps. but millions don't have a bank account or a smartphone, and lots of older people find the technology baffling . that's the technology baffling. that's why gb news has launched our don't kill cash campaign. i call on the government, says our petition to introduce legislation to protect the status of cash as legal tender and as a widely accepted means of payment in the uk until at least 2050. in just a couple of days, our petitions attracted over 100,000 names, so we can now push for a debate in parliament and now we're going for a quarter of a million signatures. this shift away from cash is being driven by big firms and tech companies keen to monitor our spending for commercial purposes. but monitor our spending for commercial purposes . but lots of commercial purposes. but lots of small firms , especially small small firm s, especially small retailers small firms, especially small retailers , understand that for retailers, understand that for millions , a cash remains vital . millions, a cash remains vital. >> it's a move away from cash accelerates too quickly . accelerates too quickly. >> it can leave behind a large chunk of the population and a large chunk of the businesses

that deal with them. so it needs to be regulated and thought about carefully. >> 5 million of us rely on cash on a daily basis and over a million uk adults don't even have a bank account. that's why gb news says don't kill cash and we'd urge you to sign our petition at gb news .com forward slash cash. liam halligan . gb news. >> liam joins me now. liam cash is king and this campaign is going gangbusters. >> patrick less than 48 hours old, 140,140 and of course we'll be going for 180 and then a quarter of a million. so will you back in for that one? see what i did there? harking back to my days as a darts fan . so to my days as a darts fan. so this is really interesting. i think we've really hit on something here. million us something here. 5 million of us rely on every day, rely on cash every day, 6 billion transactions every day. there are big, powerful interests. the banking sector for a lot of big retailers , a for a lot of big retailers, a lot of big tech companies , they lot of big tech companies, they want to monitor everything that

we spend. they want do we spend. they want to do surveillance capitalism . there's surveillance capitalism. there's no without cash. there's no privacy without cash. there's no privacy without cash. there's no a tenner in your birthday, in your kids birthday card. there's no, you know, £20 in your grand, in your granddaughter's hand when see her. if you're when you see her. if you're a grandparent, there's no tipping a busker, there's no giving money to a waitress or a waiter because they've done a fantastic job. make sure they job. you want to make sure they get that money. so cash is king. we cash in society. and yet we need cash in society. and yet all these powerful vested interests are trying to get rid of that's we're saying, of it. that's why we're saying, as kyiv cash legal as gb news kyiv cash legal tender , don't kill cash until at tender, don't kill cash until at least 2050. and now we're going to get a debate in parliament because we've got so many signatures. >> yeah. and it's going to be big. so actually thanks to big. so we actually thanks to everybody part in everybody who's taking part in this news .com this again is gb news .com forward slash cash. quite easy to it to remember that, isn't it really. there, make really. so get on there, make your voice we could well your voice heard. we could well actually which actually affect the law, which would alluded would be nice. are you alluded to liam some sinister to there liam some sinister potential interest here if cash goes just just explain that

because it's one of those easy things is easy to le parisien oh, it's sinister. well, why? >> i wouldn't sinister. i'd >> i wouldn't say sinister. i'd say commercial say so. there's commercial pressure, because look, pressure, right? because look, big they don't like big retailers, they don't like cash because it's lot cheaper cash because it's a lot cheaper for if somebody goes, for them. if somebody just goes, yeah, cab driver yeah, but if you're a cab driver and you can't use cash and you've got to use one of those little you're little card machines, you're losing three, 4. every losing two, three, 4. every every person that you take because that goes to card because that goes to the card company. similarly, got company. similarly, you've got the big tech companies. they company. similarly, you've got the toi tech companies. they company. similarly, you've got the to follow ompanies. they company. similarly, you've got the to follow us panies. they company. similarly, you've got the to follow us around they company. similarly, you've got the to follow us around and' like to follow us around and they like to know what we spend where it, how much where we spend it, how much we spend how we spend it, what we spend, how we spend it, what we buy, things with, things buy, things with, other things they patterns out they like to make patterns out of then sell our of us and then sell our behaviour to third parties so they can then tell us why we need to buy more stuff that we can't called can't afford. it's called surveillance capitalist ism. it's into being by the it's brought into being by the ending cash in society. it's brought into being by the ending cash in society . a lot ending of cash in society. a lot of society's most vulnerable people want to keep using cash . people want to keep using cash. a little old lady, she doesn't want to get a smartphone with a parking she just wants parking app. she just wants to put quid a box put a couple of quid into a box on so she can park on the street so she can park and not get a parking ticket. >> absolutely. the elderly is

the for me in all the is the big one for me in all of this. and think about the of this. and i think about the idea my grandma out idea that my grandma going out in bless her, if she in her car, bless her, if she was having to mess around with apps or if she to get apps or if she wanted to get a train around train ticket. you messed around with million people with that. over a million people haven't a bank account, haven't even got a bank account, so got a debit so they haven't got a debit card. >> so how can they participate in society? >> liam, w" >> exactly. liam, look, thank you liam halligan, you very much. liam halligan, our business our economics and business editor get some more editor now let's get some more on that i broke here on that news that i broke here just ago. 23 year just a few moments ago. 23 year old conor chapman has found old conor chapman has been found guilty liverpool crown court guilty at liverpool crown court of murder edwards. of the murder of elle edwards. she shot outside the she was shot outside the lighthouse in wallasey lighthouse pub in wallasey village in wirral on christmas eve year. live to eve last year. let's go live to liverpool to our gb news north—west. reporter sophie reaper with the latest. sophie of a market for the gangs to operate in and so well, patrick, this morning around 11:07, justice goose sent out the jury comprising of seven women and five men in order for them to begin their deliberations . begin their deliberations. >> they have now returned with a unanimous verdict, which was a relatively short amount of time,

only around 3.5 hours of deliberation , which is rather deliberation, which is rather unusualin deliberation, which is rather unusual in this kind of circumstance. but they have now returned with their verdicts. they found connor chapman guilty on all charges , is now, of on all charges, is now, of course, i'm sure many of our viewers will remember that christmas eve last year, the news broke on christmas day itself. but on christmas eve last year, elle edwards was shot deadin last year, elle edwards was shot dead in the lighthouse inn in wallasey merseyside . as part of wallasey merseyside. as part of this trial , connor chapman's this trial, connor chapman's trial, the court was shown cctv, which showed a gunman opened fire on the pub just a few moments before midnight on christmas eve last year. the prosecution said that chapman had been trying to kill two members of a rival gang on the wirral. that was kieran salkeld and jake duffy. that was wirral. that was kieran salkeld and jake duffy . that was because and jake duffy. that was because of a feud between the two estates. on the other hand, connor chapman has said throughout that he was innocent and that he was actually at home

that night. the judge told the jury that night. the judge told the jury that it was in fact their duty to determine whether or not connor chapman was the gunman . connor chapman was the gunman. and they have returned to and they have now returned to say they found him guilty say that they found him guilty of that. course , primarily of that. of course, primarily the elle edwards , but the murder of elle edwards, but also two counts of attempted murder, two counts of wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm. one count of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and the possession of a skorpion machine gun and ammunition with intent to endanger . so he has now endanger life. so he has now been found guilty of all of those charges. we're expecting the sentencing here at liverpool crown court tomorrow. we've heard some reaction from elle edwards father after hearing he heard the verdict. he said it means he's off the streets. someone else is not going to suffer at the hands of him. also saying that he was a coward and that his family have now finally got justice and that they can move forward. so just to reiterate , connor chapman has reiterate, connor chapman has been guilty of all counts, been found guilty of all counts, including the murder of ellie edwards . edwards. >> sophie, thank you. that's gb news north west. reporter there

outside liverpool crown court. sophie reaper. now a reminder of our top story, year old our top story, an eight year old girl sadly been killed and girl has sadly been killed and ten people are currently in hospital after a land rover crashed into a girls prep school building in south london. a woman in her 40s has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. we will be at the scene there very, very shortly. patrick is here on gb news, britain's news .

channel it's 4 pm. it's patrick christie's gb news. and in just a few moments time, we will go live to the scene of a fatal car crash at a primary school in wimbledon. an eight year old girl sadly died at the scene. a woman 40s has been woman in her 40s has been arrested suspicion of causing arrested on suspicion of causing death dangerous driving . ten death by dangerous driving. ten others remain hospital, some

others remain in hospital, some of serious of which are in a serious condition. in other news, i'm also going to be talking about what i'm calling the channel child con. yes, we are being gamed by a lot of people pretending to be children crossing the english channel. i'll be having a look at that. and why on earth some people in the house of lords want to make it easier for them to do so. but get a load of this. yes. one police chief is offering to buy his own officers . this police chief is offering to buy his own officers. this badge that seeing behind me that you're seeing behind me now, badge to now, the thin blue line badge to represent fallen colleagues , represent fallen colleagues, some of whom are allowed to wear the pride badge. but not this. he is taking stance . the pride badge. but not this. he is taking stance. i'll be he is taking a stance. i'll be talking all about that. and this is exclusive as well, is a gb news exclusive as well, brought a few brought to you in just a few moments time as well by charlie peters, our very own labour's moments time as well by charlie pete war ur very own labour's moments time as well by charlie pete war in very own labour's moments time as well by charlie pete war in tory own labour's moments time as well by charlie pete war in to muslim abour's moments time as well by charlie pete war in to muslim rebels; race war in to muslim rebels breaking out in the labour party. so we'll bring you all the latest on that. patrick christys. gb news. yes okay. gb

views or gb news dot com. the topic. i'm going to ask you to comment on today is whether or not you feel as though we are being conned people being conned by people pretending asylum pretending to be child asylum seekers. but a reminder as well, in just a few minutes time i'll be taking you to the scene of that fatal wimbledon primary school now school crush. but right now is your are polly . patrick. >> thank you. good afternoon to you. let's start with some breaking news and that is that an eight year old girl has died after a land rover crashed into her primary school in wimbledon in south west london. police were called to the scene just before 10:00 this morning. the school is the study prep school . 16 people were treated at the scene . ten have been taken to scene. ten have been taken to hospital . and police say the hospital. and police say the dnven hospital. and police say the driver, a woman in her 40s, has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . detective chief

driving. detective chief superintend claire callan says the incident is not being treated as terror related and officers along with colleagues from other emergency services , from other emergency services, provided first aid to a number of people who had been injured . of people who had been injured. very sadly, one of the children, an eight year old girl, died at the scene . our thoughts are with the scene. our thoughts are with her family at this incredibly difficult time . the driver of a difficult time. the driver of a car , a woman aged in her 40, car, a woman aged in her 40, stopped at the scene and has since been arrested for causing death by dangerous driving and remains in police custody . well, remains in police custody. well, detective chief superintendent claire kellen, they're feeling quite emotional delivering that news conference a short time ago. unsurprisingly reporting the death of the eight year old girl at that school. a community in shock in south—west london. we'll have more on that story for as for you, of course, as developments to us. now, in developments come to us. now, in the meantime , the cabinet office the meantime, the cabinet office has lost its legal challenge over the covid inquiry's request for boris johnson's unredacted

whatsapp messages. chairwoman anne baroness hallett had requested the material from the former prime minister but the cabinet office declined , arguing cabinet office declined, arguing it would be irrelevant. but the high court has ruled the inquiry must now be given access to the messages . a government messages. a government spokesperson says it will comply fully with the judgement and work with inquiry team on work with the inquiry team on the practical arrangements . the the practical arrangements. the government has launched a bid to take its rwanda deportation policy to the supreme court last week the court of appeal overturned an earlier high court ruling, which found rwanda could be considered a safe third country for asylum seekers. that comes as the house of lords dean comes as the house of lords dealt a blow to the government, rejecting its illegal migration bill, meaning mps will now have to consider a series of amendments . now to keir starmer amendments. now to keir starmer speech outlining labour's education reform plans were interrupted today . done that

one. >> will you just which side are the labour party on? we are on the labour party on? we are on the side of economic growth. will you just let me please get on with this? thank you very much for that interruption. >> we understand by protesters urging him to stop making u—turns on climate policies. the labour leader was announcing his goal for half a million more children to reach their early learning targets by 2030. the proposal , learning targets by 2030. the proposal, including hiring 6500 more teachers and prioritised adding language skills before he was challenged. sir keir starmer said everyone is entitled to opportunity in education, something we should be able to trust. >> all of us. an unwritten contract , a bond of hope between contract, a bond of hope between citizen and country generation and generation. so i promise you this whatever the obstacle is to opportunity, wherever the barriers to hope, my labour government will tear them down. >> will the education secretary,

gillian keegan says the government is already making huge improvements in education through our reforms and through our improvements in standards, we are now fourth in the world for reading that is amazing. >> we have just a revolution ionised our education system and we've also revolutionised our school system. >> go and look at what they're actually doing in wales. they've fiddling around with the curriculum. >> the standards are going down and the outcomes are much worse for children. >> this is too important to put in labour's hands and he actually doesn't know what he's talking about . now, four retired talking about. now, four retired police officers involved in the first stephen lawrence murder in investigation will not face criminal charges. the crown prosecution service saying it's satisfied the national crime agency had fully investigated their actions following his murder in 1993. the initial investigation failed to bring anyone to justice. two of stephen's murderers were eventually jailed . in 2012, eventually jailed. in 2012, conor chapman has been found

guilty at liverpool crown court of the murder of elle edwards . of the murder of elle edwards. cctv footage has been released showing the 23 year old fatally shooting the 26 year old outside the lighthouse pub on the wirral on christmas eve last year. mr chapman was convicted of her murder and seven other counts. he's expected to be sentenced tomorrow. ls father tim edwards says chapman thought he could get away with it . get away with it. >> no remorse , not one ounce, >> no remorse, not one ounce, not one sign of regret for what he's done . if anything, he's done. if anything, arrogance is to actually believe he can pull the wool over people's eyes and think he can get away with it . get away with it. >> and thousands of people have gathered for the funeral of two teenagers who died during a police chase in ely in may. the best friends , kyrees sullivan best friends, kyrees sullivan and harvey evans died after being hit by a bus while fleeing police on their electric bike, sparking rioting in cardiff. the

pair will be laid to rest in western cemetery in the city. you're with gb news, the people's . people's. channel >> yeah. loads of news on the agenda today. we do start with the news though, that an eight year old girl sadly has died and 15 of the people are being treated after a land rover crashed into a girl's primary school in south london. a woman in her has been arrested on in her 40s has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. i think we'll just straight to scene just go straight to the scene now reporter lisa now with our reporter lisa hartle, for hartle, who is in wimbledon for us. lisa, just an absolutely devastating event and frankly, still loads of unanswered questions . this is a local questions. this is a local school olivia pratt—korbel. >> yeah, i don't know if you can see behind me the police cordon on two of the roads. people are still not allowed to travel down

there . there is fewer police there. there is fewer police vehicles around now. there is still a police presence because obviously this is an ongoing investigation to try and find out happened . and a out just what happened. and a woman was speaking to earlier woman i was speaking to earlier who lives around here said that it's road. it's one it's a quiet road. it's one where there's a speed limit of 20 miles an hour. but it's a kind of road where you have to pull over to let someone else go by. understand by. so she couldn't understand just could pick just how anyone could pick up speed for that happen . speed or for that to happen. obviously, is a woman obviously, the driver is a woman in 40s. she's been arrested in her 40s. she's been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving and police say they're not treating this as terror related. it of terror related. it was, of course, the last day of school , course, the last day of school, a time for children to celebrate . we are hearing that there was a event going on outside the school which is why perhaps there people and children there were people and children outside when this incident happened. in a statement earlier , detective chief superintendent claire keelan said that the next stages of the investigation will to be identify all witnesses and view cctv as well as interview

the woman who has been arrested . the mayor of london, has also said his heart goes out to everyone affected by the devastating crash at the school and police are currently looking through cctv just to try and find out more about what happened. and they're asking if anyone does have any information about incident to call 101. about the incident to call 101. lisa thank you very, very much. >> more developments as we get them brought to you right here on news lisa hartle, who is on gb news lisa hartle, who is in wimbledon yes, just in wimbledon for us. yes, just to recap as well, 9:45 am. this morning, the emergency services called 20 ambulances called at least 20 ambulances fire crews as well, with specialist cutting equipment and air ambulances descended upon wimbledon. one eight year old girl, sadly died at the scene, as we understand it, several other people are in hospital at the moment being treated in a variety of different conditions . and if we get any update on any of that or indeed any developments on the believed causes for this particular incident, we will bring them to you immediately here on gb news. but as i said, there is a lot of

other stuff in the news today. there are two big topics relating to asylum and illegal immigration that i'm going to get stuck right into. the first one is about child asylum seekers and whether or not they are really children. the second one is an idea that's being floated, better floated, for want of a better phrase, about whether or not we should be. now, housing or detaining illegal on detaining illegal migrants on some islands off britain, some small uninhabited islands . so small uninhabited islands. so i'm going to be having a debate and a discussion on that, but i'm going to focus on the big child asylum con, as i'm calling it. first, when it comes to child seekers, we really child asylum seekers, we really are kidding ourselves. in 2020 to 20, 21, 66% of those claiming to 20, 21, 66% of those claiming to be children turned out to be adults. we need mandatory biological and scientific age checks. ex border force boss tony smith said this. some would have sworn on their mums lives. they were 16, despite having a beard and balding . did you know beard and balding. did you know that our current system often just gives the benefit of the

doubt to the person pretending to be a child unless they look visibly over 25 years old? this means that even where an immigration officer believes that an individual who is claiming to be a child is as old as 24, they must still treat them as a child, which in practise will mean that the individual can be placed alongside children. so a boat with chris whitty's hairline and a full beard and a voice deeper than barry white rocks up, having deliberately ditched their identification documents and if one person thinks there's and if one person thinks there's a chance that they might be under 25, then they go into a school. it's worth noting some situations where this has actually happened. the fully grown who stabbed an grown man who stabbed an aspiring marine to death , lawang aspiring marine to death, lawang abdul posed as a young abdul ramzi, posed as a young afghan orphan after arriving in britain in 2019 and was allowed to study at winton academy in bournemouth. he was actually wanted by police in serbia after being sentenced in his absence to 20 years imprisonment for shooting two people dead. in an apparent argument over people smuggling, parsons green bomber

ahmed hassan said he was 16 years old and an orphan when he entered the uk illegally in 2015 and claimed asylum as a 30 year old man who reportedly had a wife and two kids, spent six weeks posing as a 15 year old in a school in stoke in italy, medical examinations are used for assessments, although the person is free to refuse to participate in cyprus. an age assessment interview is carried out before referring the person to medical examination in france. an interview was conducted with the person whose age is unclear and who does not possess identity documents like the people coming across the channel the interview aims to assess the age and the circumstances of that person concerned. but if a doubt about the person's age remains, the individual can be referred to medical examiners sessions with the person's consent. again, obviously , if they then refuse obviously, if they then refuse consent, that's a massive red flag. but it also , i think, flag. but it also, i think, explains why so many of these

countries are so keen to just wave them through to britain. isn't need to tougher isn't it? we need to be tougher than about being than that. we talk about being world leading a lot . well, why world leading a lot. well, why not be world leading in stopping adults posing as children from getting into schools and being given leave to remain . given leave to remain. vaiews@gbnews.com and an area of specific concern relating to this as well is the fact that the illegal migration bill is taking an absolute pummelling in the house lords. non stop 20 the house of lords. non stop 20 defeats night to various defeats last night to various different elements of it. one of those elements is about the length detain length of time we can detain people that are children, okay, and let's just remind ourselves as well about this . it's gone as well about this. it's gone very quiet, hasn't it? from the left, gone quiet about this left, gone very quiet about this scandal of children going missing asylum seeker missing from asylum seeker hotels. could it possibly be because the reality of them not all actually being children is now coming to fruition ? i'm now coming to fruition? i'm going to have a debate on this and whether or we are just and whether or not we are just being fake asylum

being conned by fake asylum seeking kids. i'm joined by stephen wolf, who's the director at centre migration and at the centre for migration and economic prosperity. and steve valdez—symonds, is the valdez—symonds, who is the refugee and migrant rights programme at amnesty programme director at amnesty international uk . stephen wolf, international uk. stephen wolf, i'll start with you, if that's all being conned all right. are we being conned by fake asylum seeking kids ? by fake asylum seeking kids? >> well, i wouldn't say you're being conned by every asylum unaccompanied asylum child that's coming across , as you that's coming across, as you said, in 2021, 66% of those 16 to 17 year olds were assessed as being adults . and last year, in being adults. and last year, in 2021, you had effective 35% of all the children . there was 5242 all the children. there was 5242 and 8903 of them were adults. so you can say that there is a substantial social con going on of at least 30 to 50% of those claiming to be us sps the unaccompanied small child. >> okay, steve aldous simmons of amnesty. now what's wrong , amnesty. now what's wrong, steve, with having mandatory

scientific and biological age checks ? well the first thing checks? well the first thing that's wrong here is the banner that's wrong here is the banner that you've got at the bottom of the screen, which is entirely false. >> it is not true that 66% of people claiming to be children were found to be adults. >> the home office, in fact, no, they're not the official. >> they may be with the home office say, but their official data confirms that it is the last years . last years. >> what do you want me to do, steve? you know the home of the home office. the home office in front of me, they show you that of the cases, even were disputed. okay the home office figures here are between september, september 2020 and september, september 2020 and september 20th, 21, 66% of those claiming to be children turned out to be adults. what you want me to do about that? it might not suit your narrative, but that's it says here. the that's what it says here. the home immigration system home office immigration system statistics, which i have in front of me, show you that in

each of the last four years, including the year you've referred to even of the cases that were disputed, which was general plea, less than half of all the cases is more than 50, up to two thirds in each year were found to be that the home office was wrong and the person was a child . was a child. >> so i'm sorry. the banner you've got at the bottom of the screen is utterly wrong. and the data you gave at the start of this story is wrong. as the home office figures . office figures. >> home office. home. home office figures year to september between two thousand and seven and 2021 year to september two thousand and seven. age disputes resolved, 1400 of which found to be 18 or older, 428. that's 29. i can work my way down right till i get to the year end in september 2021, where it becomes 66. and those are the figures and the home office that i'm looking at right now. steve so that's that. >> where exactly are you looking at it? i've got them on my

screen of me there. the screen in front of me there. the home immigration home office immigration system statistics . statistics. >> steve don't show. i'll tell you what is really interesting. i'll tell you what is interesting, steve. steve, i'll tell really tell you what is really interesting, right, is that you're answer my you're not willing to answer my question, whether or question, which is whether or not mandatory age not we should have mandatory age tests. that? tests. so will you answer that? i'm happy to answer that question. >> i'm not happy to be sitting here in front of a lie that obviously informs what your listeners think of listeners and viewers think of this issue . this issue. >> see, i don't know what to say to you, mate. all right. i've got the figures in front of me here. just the question. here. just answer the question. all right? >> if you want me to answer about the medical i'll do about the medical tests, i'll do that. do. thank you. that. yes please do. thank you. as regards x—rays and other as for regards x—rays and other medical tests , time and time medical tests, time and time again, it has been shown that these do not provide any greater clarity about the issue of age dispute because the age variation on on all the data sets acas are very wide . and sets acas are very wide. and moreover , the data sets don't

moreover, the data sets don't have the data that's necessary on most of the cohorts of children. by reference to their nationality and ethnicity . that nationality and ethnicity. that would allow you to provide some sort of accurate data . so sort of accurate data. so children are being required to go through x rays, which are an invasive medical procedure for no good reason. that's why we object to them. okay. >> so you said no good reason there, steven wolf , i'll >> so you said no good reason there, steven wolf, i'll bring you back in. now, i would suggest that the good reason is that times we have had that at times we have had a double murderer in classroom double murderer in a classroom with well i would say with kids. well i would say there is a very important reason of why we must assess that people who claim to be adults are to be children, are are claim to be children, are adults of one of them. >> obviously, there is a criminal aspect there criminal aspect of which there are numbers if you look are smaller numbers if you look at the numbers. patrick yes, there murderers, if we there are murderers, but if we had 4000 last year, it's not all 4000 are murderers, but it's very important that. but very important to do that. but where would say there's where i would say there's a really important point to

really key, important point to key which i think key statistics, which i think are vital for us to understand . are vital for us to understand. the first is that those children in care at the moment there's about 80,000 children in care across the united kingdom. but what we're looking at is around 16% of them are unaccompanied small children. so you've got about 13,000 of them, and that is growing. there was more last year than there are this. yes, but that is important because of the second fact. the second fact is that councils are finding it a struggle. they do get £143 per night per unaccompanied small child. last year that would amount to £273 million that the government is giving to councils. but the councils still can't afford the fact that they're receiving £52,000 per child who is a usc that and they're still saying they can't afford to keep those children in these homes or indeed in the hotels, which are often kind of outsourced to third parties. so

you've got a cost issue and you've got a cost issue and you've got a cost issue and you've got the fact that we haven't got enough space for children who are actually here. so we have to resolve that as well as dealing with the fact that you've got many of them who are claiming. now, steve may say it's than stats will it's less than 50. my stats will say it's about 35% of all of those who arrive each year are adults. okay >> all right. fair enough. and steve simmons, i'll throw it back over to you. i mean, it is an ray, really, that invasive an x ray, really, that invasive when you consider of when you consider what some of the other options could be. when you consider what some of timean,r options could be. when you consider what some of timean, there ons could be. when you consider what some of timean, there was:ould be. when you consider what some of timean, there was thed be. when you consider what some of timean, there was the parsonsa. i mean, there was the parsons green well, who green bomber as well, who claimed and an orphan claimed to be 16 and an orphan at time. i mean, do the at the time. i mean, do the british public not deserve if we are going spend of are going to spend the kind of money stephen woolf's money that stephen woolf's talking about, there as taxpayers people in taxpayers and accept people in asylum seeker hotels and potential consequences for our safety and social housing and all do we not all of this stuff, do we not have right maybe just go have the right to maybe just go look, just this look, can you just take this x ray test this check? ray test or this dental check? is really that invade on is that really that invade on the person? >> there are two one, it >> there are two things. one, it is invasive. and secondly , it is invasive. and secondly, it doesn't do any good in helping you make the assessment . and

you make the assessment. and thatis you make the assessment. and that is the problem . if this was that is the problem. if this was something that was a reliable way of assessing age, then obviously organisations like mine would have to think more carefully about our positions and how harmful or not the invasive procedure was. but the fact is that it is not helpful in defining age. fact is that it is not helpful in defining age . so we do have in defining age. so we do have procedures which are run by local authority and experienced social workers to make assessments of children's age and that is very important. we support that. okay. what we don't support is simply using so—called science, which is just as random as anything else in this respect, in this respect , this respect, in this respect, because x rays don't pinpoint age . age. >> okay? i mean, i am aware that when people, for example, find bodies that have been decaying for years or whatever,

scientists, of course, do use dental records , etcetera, there dental records, etcetera, there to pinpoint the quite precise age whose body age of the individual whose body they have found. but stephen woolf, you on woolf, final word to you on this. could you chuckling this. i could see you chuckling a there. what a little bit there. what was what was getting you? >> well, my point is, i understand that steve says that there methods there are certain methods such as rays their that do as x rays on their own that do not identify the age of people. but science out there not identify the age of people. but clearly. science out there not identify the age of people. but clearly. and|ce out there not identify the age of people. but clearly. and you»ut there not identify the age of people. but clearly. and you can'tare not identify the age of people. but clearly. and you can't just very clearly. and you can't just dispute the fact that there is very clear signs, particularly in the united states, that have been utilised to identify age. you can use stem cells, you can use increasingly new types of forms of techniques erg to identify. the question is whether the home office would actually spend that level of money where they need to, which is the first port of call when people are identified. i just don't think that they will because the home office is quite happy to pass it on to local councils because the cost is covered by the councils and the councils do not have enough experienced people. there are some, but i wouldn't say all of

them capable of assessing children and as a consequence some will escape . some will escape. >> okay, look, both of you, thank you very much. spirited stuff at the top of the hour there. steven wolf, there is the director of the centre for migration prosperity, director of the centre for mig|steve prosperity, director of the centre for mig|steve valdez—symonds,ty, director of the centre for mig|steve valdez—symonds, who's director of the centre for migrefugee�*aldez—symonds, who's director of the centre for migrefugee and z—symonds, who's director of the centre for migrefugee and migrant|ds, who's the refugee and migrant rights programme director at amnesty international views international uk. get your views coming in gb views gb news .com. now the head of the met police has doubled down. sir mark rowley is standing by his ban on officers wearing a badge that honours colleagues killed in the line of duty. as you might expect, that has provoked a furious backlash. patrick christys on gb news britain's news

listen live via the gb news app available on apple and android or head straight . or head straight. >> well, in just a few minutes i will have a gb news exclusive story about the labour councillors who have been leading sectarian chanting against minority group in the against a minority group in the west midlands and as a minister calls on fans to do a jonny bairstow against just stop oil protesters . i'll put that to one protesters. i'll put that to one of their activists and just ask how far should people go to just stop, just stop oil. but a row over whether police officers can wear union flag patches as a mark of respect to fallen colleagues has now intensified after a chief constable said that he would pay for his officers to wear the badges out officers to wear the badges out of his own pocket. it follows a move by metropolitan police move by the metropolitan police to officers from wearing to ban its officers from wearing the patches while covering gay pride in london over the pride events in london over the weekend. force said the weekend. the force said the badges contentious as

badges are contentious as similar stars and stripes emblems in the us have been by far right and transphobic groups. our home security editor mark white joins us now . so this mark white joins us now. so this guy has offered to pay for out of his own pocket. yes >> so it's a row that's intensifying . without a doubt. intensifying. without a doubt. mark rowley, perhaps in a bit of a corner here, has decided that he wants to ban these emblems, these patches that have become increasingly common over the last decade or so with officers wearing them as a mark of respect for colleagues that have fallen. we're showing them on television for our radio listeners, and they are black and white or black and grey union flag very tasteful with just a blue line across the middle there to signify by the thin blue line . and as i say, thin blue line. and as i say, many officers now wear them. however the row erupted. you covered it earlier in the week when the metropol police issued this edict . officers covering this edict. officers covering the gay pride celebrations in

london not to wear them because of fear of upsetting some of those attending the events because according to the met, similar type patches, completely different flag , the stars and different flag, the stars and stripes, nothing to do with this, but similar patches have been by the far right and transphobic groups . so a bit of transphobic groups. so a bit of a stretch to say the least . so a stretch to say the least. so he said that mark rowley then doubled down on that, which we'll hear in a minute at the london assembly. yes today. but what we got overnight was nick adderley, who is the chief constable of northampton , constable of northampton, northamptonshire, waded into the row. he's tweeted and said , and row. he's tweeted and said, and ihave row. he's tweeted and said, and i have offered to pay for the patch for my own officers and staff, my own money if they wish to wear it as i'm determined never to allow a minority to twist the meaning of this patch, which risks the memory of fallen

officers , is being driven into officers, is being driven into an abyss of hushed tones that is very forthright and in in its clear, implied criticism of a decision taken by the metropolitan police commissioner , as i say, but far from rowing back on this decision at the london assembly , this is what london assembly, this is what sir mark rowley said. i understand that officers care deeply and they want to show how they care about their colleagues , and that creates a bit of tension. >> and we're discussing it in the organisation. but the reason for taking a firm line it for taking a firm line is it just into officers having just drips into officers having hundreds badges and then hundreds of badges and then someone's policing something and someone's policing something and someone's think, someone's complaining think, well intended this well, we know you intended this by one, but actually it by that one, but actually it also that and the reason also means that and the reason this one is contentious , the this one is contentious, the equivalent the states has equivalent in the states has ended up being both a policing symbol and has been used by some hard and that's hard right groups. and so that's why is a tricky territory , right? >> i mean, i wouldn't have thought it was particularly tncky thought it was particularly tricky to be honest with you,

but apparently it is. but the officers are allowed to wear other . other badges. >> so, think he was >> so, yeah, i think he was tying himself knots, really tying himself in knots, really trying with a cogent trying to come up with a cogent explanation as to why they decided to do this. there are a few badges that they're allowed to wear , like support for the to wear, like support for the poppy appeal, to wear, like support for the poppy appeal, for instance, but only three. and this particular one, as obviously the thin blue line one is being banned by the met. but at the same time as just those three, it seems there are other badges that are not too bothered about. so at the weekend and with pride , there weekend and with pride, there were officers as we can see, they're going about with with other colours. as we can see the rainbow colours on their epaulettes there and others saying wearing rainbow badges and things like that on the helmet as well . so mark rowley's helmet as well. so mark rowley's whole argument here is supposed to be about the police, not being seen to favour one group over another. the police without

fear or favour. so that's fine. in in and of itself. but then if you decide that you're not going to allow this union flag thin blue line patch to be worn, but then allow the likes of the pride flag to be worn, what are you seeing about fear and favour? >> yeah, well, it just doesn't make any sense, really, does it? mark, thank you very, very much. mark, thank you very, very much. mark white there. our homeland security editor. now, in a few minutes, bring a gb minutes, i will bring you a gb news about the labour news exclusive about the labour councillors what councillors involved in what appears to sex korean appears to be sex korean chanting west midlands. chanting in the west midlands. but headlines but first, it's your headlines with . patrick with polly. patrick >> thank you. we start with some breaking news. the prime minister says his thoughts are with the family of the eight year old little girl who died this morning after a land rover crashed into a primary school in wimbledon in south west london. police were called to the scene

just before 10:00 this morning. the school concerned is called the study prep school . and 16 the study prep school. and 16 people had to be treated at the scene. ten more were taken to hospital by hospital . ambulance hospital by hospital. ambulance helicop after ambulance, i should say. police are saying the driver in this case is a woman in her 40s. she's been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving and detective chief superintendent claire kellan's voice broke with emotion as she reported. what happened this morning . officers, happened this morning. officers, along with colleagues from other emergency services, provided first aid to a number of people who had been injured . very who had been injured. very sadly, one of the children, an eight year old girl, died at the scene. our thoughts are with her family at this incredibly difficult time . the driver of difficult time. the driver of a car, a woman aged in her 40, stopped at the scene and has since been arrested for causing death by dangerous driving and

remains in police custody . any remains in police custody. any more news on that? of course, if it comes to us. in the meantime , the government says it's going to work towards handling over material requested by the covid inquiry by next week. that's after the cabinet office lost its challenge over boris its legal challenge over boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages. lawyers for the government had argued the material would be irrelevant. however, the high court has ruled the inquiry must be given full access and the government has launched its bid to take its rwanda deportation policy to the supreme court. last week, the court of appeal overturned an earlier high court ruling which found rwanda could be considered a safe third country. it comes as the house of lords dealt a blow to the government rejecting its illegal migration bill mps are now considering a series of amendments . conor chapman was amendments. conor chapman was found guilty today at liverpool crown court of the murder of elle edwards . cctv footage has elle edwards. cctv footage has been released showing the 23 year old fatally shooting the 26

year old fatally shooting the 26 year old fatally shooting the 26 year old outside the lighthouse pub in the wirral on christmas eve last year. mr chapman was convicted of her murder and seven other counts. he's expected to be sentenced tomorrow and four retired police officers involved in the first stephen lawrence murder investigation will not face criminal charges for misconduct. the crown prosecution service saying it's satisfied the national crime agency had for investigated their actions following the murder in 1993. the initial investigation failed to bring anyone to justice. but two of stephen's murderers were eventually jailed. in 2012. more on all those stories. head to our website, gb news. .com . our website, gb news. .com. >> now to a gb news exclusive on local politics in walsall . all local politics in walsall. all has taken a nasty turn, believe

it or not. we have uncovered footage of two senior labour councillors leading sectarian chanting and leafleting against a minority group in the west midlands town. gb news investigative reporter charlie peters has this report . peters has this report. >> zindabaad zindabaad . >> zindabaad zindabaad. zindabaad zindabaad doddie aid . zindabaad zindabaad doddie aid. >> here's footage we've uncovered of two labour councillors engaged in sectarian chanting in walsall . that's chanting in walsall. that's councillor khizar hussain , the councillor khizar hussain, the deputy leader of the labour group in the west midlands town. he's chanting at a group of ahmadi muslims as a persecuted minority sect who regularly gather in walsall to promote their faith . their faith. >> zindabaad mr hussain is chanting long live the finality of the prophet towards the ahmadis , who believe in the ahmadis, who believe in the possibility of future prophets. >> the leader of the labour group, aftab nawaz , was also group, aftab nawaz, was also present at the incident . both

present at the incident. both men have previously campaigned with labour leader sir keir starmer . when gb news approached starmer. when gb news approached the councillors, they referred to the ahmadis as qadiani , a to the ahmadis as qadiani, a pejorative slur against the persecuted group. they added that there was no link with any organisation that promotes violence or hatred and that it would be inaccurate to suggest that the chants promoted any group or movement. but leaflets distributed at the tense standoff clearly show that they are promoted by the global cadmium about movement at the sectarian movement that campaigns against ahmadi muslims . as gb news has seen, copies of the leaflets which say that the ahmadis are liars and apostates and praises those who fought against them . earlier this year, against them. earlier this year, hussain called for greater diversity at walsall council. but despite this he has engaged in chanting and leafleting, described by this expert as sectarian and linked to foreign extremists to have elected

labour councillors chanting coming about in such close proximity to an ahmadiyya muslim faith store is seen to be at the very least sectarian and at the very least sectarian and at the very worst supportive of the khatme nabuwwat movement, a religious political movement in pakistan that calls for the death of ahmadis. >> it's absolutely abhorrent that persons elected to represent all would be involved in any way in sectarianism . in any way in sectarianism. >> the chanting and rhetoric heard here in central walsall reflects a worrying national trend of the persecution of ahmadi muslims, including the murder of a shopkeeper in glasgow . assad shah was stabbed glasgow. assad shah was stabbed to death by a sunni muslim from bradford, who harboured anti ahmadi views his death was celebrated by members of the khatme nabuwwat movement . the khatme nabuwwat movement. the ahmadiyya muslim community has told gb news that the incident was completely unacceptable and that it has been reported as a hate crime. west midlands police said that they had carried out

enquiries but no criminal offences had yet been identified . charlie peters gb news walsall good grief , charlie joins . charlie peters gb news walsall good grief, charlie joins me in the studio right now. >> i mean ijust would like the studio right now. >> i mean i just would like to >> i mean ijust would like to start by saying i think it's absolutely ridiculous that these kind of issues to kind of issues appear to be happening of happening on the streets of britain, for goodness sake. but charlie were charlie yes, so they were essentially what calling for the death of people. they were anti anti sectarian chants , basically anti sectarian chants, basically the sectarian chanting and leafleting . leafleting. >> now, the leaflets that they distributed shared by the produced by the khatme nabuwwat movement , produced by the khatme nabuwwat movement, global movement, movement, the global movement, actually based in actually a charity based in lancashire .

on >> we are very much back at it now. so thank you very much for beanng now. so thank you very much for bearing with us. those of you who were hearing us just a few moments ago . charlie peters moments ago. charlie peters joins me in the studio now. and charlie, i'll just get you to pick up where we left off. please just recap for people who might have just missed was might have just missed what was said before. might have just missed what was sairsoafore. might have just missed what was sairso we e. might have just missed what was sairso we have a story today. two >> so we have a story today. two labour leader labour councillors, the leader and of the and the deputy leader of the labour walsall have labour group in walsall have been gb news been filmed in a gb news investigation in conducting some sectarian in central sectarian chanting in central walsall against the ahmadi muslim group. there was a minority muslim sect in britain, about 20 million worldwide, but 30,000 in britain. they're subject to all sorts of persecution in the news package we have today, which our viewers can out on the website. we can check out on the website. we had a shopkeeper who was murdered a sunni murdered in 2016 by a sunni muslim he his muslim after he praised his christian that was christian country that was hosting him up in glasgow . and hosting him up in glasgow. and so there's a big problem with this persecution. and we have we have elected have footage of two elected councillors chanting at these

ahmadi muslims. but not only that, also distributing leaflets shared by a charity based in lancashire , which described lancashire, which described ahmadis as apostate dates and liars and even praised those who had fought against them in their words, in the past and essentially valorising the violence and killing of these muslims. >> no, indeed . and has there >> no, indeed. and has there been much of a response from the labour party? because this kind of stuff we cannot really have spilling onto the streets spilling out onto the streets of britain, let's be britain, which is, let's be honest you, kind of honest with you, the kind of sectarian that you would sectarian issues that you would normally different normally find in different countries. playing out in countries. now playing out in britain in walsall for example, i mean as the labour party said anything about this, well the two councillors issued me a joint statement couple of days two councillors issued me a jointwhen ment couple of days two councillors issued me a jointwhen they couple of days two councillors issued me a jointwhen they saidyuple of days two councillors issued me a jointwhen they said that of days two councillors issued me a jointwhen they said that they ays ago when they said that they were speaking and campaigning as it were, in a personal capacity. >> indeed once you're an >> but indeed once you're an elected you're elected councillor, once you're an elected political representative, you're in that role 24 over seven really. so i think it's clear they've breached the labour nec rules in hostility towards people and based religious bigotry . based on religious bigotry. they've also clearly broken the local code of conduct.

local council's code of conduct. the party didn't offer the labour party didn't offer any comment, but the charity commission is investigating. i think they're looking at assessing on the assessing information on the global campaign movement. global campaign about movement. >> much. >> charlie, thank you very much. charlie gb news charlie peters there. gb news investigates now investigates reports. now time for completely for something completely different. as they say. if you were a sporting event and were at a sporting event and a just stop oil protest was taking place, intervene? place, would you intervene? policing minister chris philp thinks you should. asked if he would be tempted to do a jonny bairstow and carry a demonstrator off the pitch, mr philp responded, saying it's reasonable for people to try and protect the events that they are watching now. this is a very , watching now. this is a very, very fine line, isn't it, and a very fine line, isn't it, and a very difficult one to tread because i dare say that many people would want to quote do a jonny bairstow, but that's all right, isn't it? if you then behave like jonny bairstow. but it is that fine line, isn't it, between vigilance , justice, between vigilance, justice, someone too far and someone going too far and someone going too far and someone getting hurt. there is of course, that question about just people putting themselves

in that position, which is why we're have discussion we're going to have a discussion about me now is about it. now, joining me now is just oil spokesperson just stop oil spokesperson person, naldrett . and person, chloe naldrett. and thank great thank you very much. great to have on show. much have you on the show. much appreciated. that appreciated. do you think that it is reasonable then for people who are watching sporting events or anything to essentially deal with you themselves ? well hi. with you themselves? well hi. >> thank you so much for having me on, patrick, and for giving space to this discussion. um i think what's interesting about what chris philp has said is that essentially he's saying it's reasonable for people to take to protect the take action to protect the things love, which things that they love, which of course that are doing course is all that we are doing as just stop and i'm quite as just stop oil. and i'm quite tired of having to come on to programmes like this and say why we shouldn't have to be assaulted . you know, we are assaulted. you know, we are ordinary people. the sort of narrative that we're the enemies of people is entirely . of ordinary people is entirely. >> is it a narrative with respect? chloe just just because, know, somebody because, you know, if somebody has and watch has paid to go and watch a sporting event or indeed anything, they would have a right to a certain level of

enjoyment out of that event. i mean, you must understand that it's not a narrative that you are ruining people's days when you are deliberately ruining people's days. >> isn't it my point is, you know, this is disruptive action. it's not harmful. it's not hurtful. no one's getting hurt. it's disruptive and it's annoying, but it's working in the sense that we're having this conversation in all these different spaces every single day. and that's really , really day. and that's really, really important. the who are important. the people who are taking these actions are people, you i'm ordinary mum. you know, i'm an ordinary mum. the took action at the people that took action at wimbledon yesterday, they're ordinary who are ordinary grandparents who are saying , i don't what the saying, i don't know what the future for my grandchildren is going or even if going to look like, or even if there for there is going to be one for them. we had the two hottest days , not just of the year, but days, not just of the year, but the hottest days ever recorded . the hottest days ever recorded. and this week they've broken the temperature record twice. that's global annual temperatures all around the world. they've never been higher in the history of humankind on this planet. been higher in the history of humankind on this planet . we're humankind on this planet. we're doing that. it's not natural and

it's not inevitable. it's being caused because we are burning huge quantities of fossil fuel. >> i'm just trying to drill down about what you think you are achieving here because the public, and large, do despise public, by and large, do despise you, our politicians aren't really doing exactly what you want them to do. and even really big notorious environmental campaigners like swampy think you're idiots. so who are you winning over ? winning over? >> right? patrick so first of all, you know, the idea that we're despised . well, mean you we're despised. well, mean you keep saying on this program so that's that that feels to your audience i imagine like a legitimate view for them to hold. but that's not the experience. that's not the whole experience. that's not the whole experience that we're having on the . the streets. >> i am just. well, can >> i mean, i am just. well, can i push back? no. can i can i just push back? no. can i can i just push back? no. can i just push back on that? because, in the last 2 because, i mean, in the last 2 or days, right, the or 3, 4 or 5 days, right, the last week or so, you've been doused in milk by ordinary passers—by by someone who was living in a council flat, poured a of water over you. people a load of water over you. people have swearing you in

have been swearing at you in cars. a bloke who looked like he'd had a few drinks on a stag do nick one of your signs and then go back a bit then if you go back a bit further, i don't think you've got many fans the snooker, got many fans at the snooker, the the rugby, the the cricket, the rugby, the chelsea show, all the chelsea flower show, all the opera. you opera. so with respect, you are not popular . not popular. >> well, but we're not trying to be popular. not the point be popular. that's not the point of this campaign. and of this of this campaign. and of course, you're sharing and course, what you're sharing and what talking about is what you're talking about is, is those moments where we do experience confrontation when those moments where we do experiwhen confrontation when those moments where we do experiwhen we're ntation when those moments where we do experiwhen we're oution when those moments where we do experiwhen we're out on when those moments where we do experiwhen we're out on the n we're when we're out on the streets taking action. but but it's not the whole story because there are also people who stop and who applaud who say and who applaud and who say thank so much what thank you so much for what you're so worried and you're doing. i'm so worried and i what to and i'm i don't know what to do. and i'm glad you're here. so it would be helpful we were that helpful if we were telling that story respect of story as well in respect of politicians , the no new oil politicians, the no new oil demand , which is absolutely demand, which is absolutely essential. that's being demanded by united nations , by the by the united nations, by the world health organisation, by the british medical association, by international energy agency. >> yeah. and a lot of middle eastern despots as well , whose eastern despots as well, whose eyes and ears prick up, don't

they when they when they say they, when they when they say was new, no new oil and was no, no new, no new oil and gas, would to we gas, because we would have to we would import a of would have to import a lot of that from countries where let me finish what i'm saying before we get sidetracked with our values. >> demand , which coming >> but demand, which is coming from the un and other from from the un and other bodies which is about, you know, that if we if we want to have a habitable planet, we've to habitable planet, we've got to stop fuels that stop burning fossil fuels that has by every major has been adopted by every major political this country political party in this country other than the tories. >> so, chloe, if you glued yourself to the road in front of my car and next to me was my partner who was having a heart attack right . and i ripped you attack right. and i ripped you off that road and moved you . off that road and moved you. would it be me who was out of order? >> well, firstly , patrick >> well, firstly, patrick glueing ourselves to things is not the way that we're. it's not the tactic that we're using at the tactic that we're using at the moment. we've got a very clear blue light policy. so let's not talk about hypothetic . let's talk about what actually happens. know chloe? happens. you know what, chloe? >> sick . but the thing is, >> i am sick. but the thing is,

chloe, undermine yourself chloe, you undermine yourself here because a lie. the here because that is a lie. the blue policy has been blue lies policy has been debunked . we've debunked so many times. we've played videos of it where people , people in ambulances with the blue lights on can't get through. so i just. blue lights on can't get through. so ijust. i don't think you do your cause any good by this fantasy world by living in this fantasy world where you're all lovely, really popular causes nobody popular people who causes nobody any whatsoever . and any disruption whatsoever. and the policy is load the blue light policy is a load of rubbish. we've seen it happen, if cause happen, people. if you cause a traffic jam in the middle of a city, there is always chance city, there is always the chance that in the case of an that somebody in the case of an emergency is not going to be able to get to that emergency. so london a city of so there is in london a city of 60,000 roads, and we're holding up five. up maybe five. >> the blue light policy is a really serious issue here. we've done a freedom of information act. been no there's act. there has been no there's been we've never had any complaints from the emergency services delayed services that we have delayed them because they're too busy putting a defibrillator to somebody's think , oh, somebody's chest to think, oh, gosh, i'll do now? gosh, you know what i'll do now? >> and >> i'll go. i'll go and complain. look, chloe , are you complain. look, chloe, are you not that there's going not worried that there's going to being the potential to end up being the potential anyway for serious vigil anti

justice? i mean, is that actually secretly what you guys want? do you think it would further your cause if someone just batted a load of just stop oil protesters no, no, of course not. >> patrick nobody wants that. that would be ridiculous. look the climate crisis is the biggest threat to law and order that humanity ever faced . that humanity has ever faced. what do you think people are going there isn't going to do when there isn't enough round? what do enough food to go round? what do you do you think people are going to do when there's enough water? you think people are going to do when doere's enough water? you think people are going to do when doere's think nough water? you think people are going to do when doere's think they're/ater? you think people are going to do when doere's think they're going what do you think they're going to when the air is toxic to to do when the air is toxic to breathe? that's already the case in of our cities. we've in many of our cities. we've already children already got our children breathing what we breathing toxic air. what are we going doing when our homes going to be doing when our homes are wildfires like are going up in wildfires like like lost their like 60 families lost their homes summer. know what homes last summer. you know what is going to happen there's is going to happen when there's just simply not the conditions that we need to live available to people this to all the people in this country anymore. we're going to have civil, civil chaos . and all have civil, civil chaos. and all we're trying to do , all these we're trying to do, all these ordinary, loving people are trying to do is say, we've got to act now. >> i find everywhere, okay, fine

i >> -- >> cani >> can i ask i w em >> can i ask i think i think you said you were an ordinary mum just before . i've spoken to just before. i've spoken to quite a few people in just stop oil said that they don't oil who said that they don't want this want to bring children into this world because it's so bad. do you regret that ? you regret that? >> i have huge compassion for anybody who feels that way. that they don't they don't think it's right or responsible to have children in when the future is so uncertain. do you regret do you regret bringing children into world? i don't into the world? i mean, i don't regret having my two children. they're they're the light and joy they're they're the light and joy life. but i do joy of my life. but i do understand that it's my responsibility as their parent to their future in the to fight for their future in the same way you know, i'm same way that, you know, i'm responsible of them same way that, you know, i'm resportheir of them same way that, you know, i'm resportheir homework of them same way that, you know, i'm resportheir homework and1em same way that, you know, i'm resportheir homework and eating doing their homework and eating eating i have to be eating properly. i have to be responsible for their future as well. do you do for a living? at responsible for their future as wel moment, do for a living? at responsible for their future as wel moment, their' a living? at responsible for their future as wel moment, their future1g? at responsible for their future as wel moment, their future is? at responsible for their future as welmoment, their future is sot the moment, their future is so uncertain that that that is genuinely frightening to as parent. >> it's frightening. what what do living? i've do you do for a living? i've interest in the arts. interest i work in the arts. >> i work at a theatre in birmingham, work arts. birmingham, work in the arts. >> stuff. all right, >> good stuff. okay. all right, chloe, thank you very much. chloe, thank you very much. chloe there, who is chloe naldrett there, who is a just spokesperson.

just stop oil spokesperson. right. reminder of right. okay. so a reminder of our story, of course , which our top story, of course, which is an eight year old girl has sadly been killed and ten people were taken hospital after were taken to hospital after a land into girl's land rover crashed into a girl's prep school building in south london. a woman in her 40s has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. as we understand it, around ten other people are still currently in hospital, receiving treatment after that incident that happened around 9:45 am. this morning. the police have ruled out terrorism, but they are yet obviously to release any kind of official motive. investigations continue to patrick christys on gb news britain's news channel, david mellor .

is5 is 5 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news news. we will have the very latest from that fatal school crash in wimbledon. a woman in her 40s been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving after an eight year old girl was sadly pronounced dead at the scene at least ten of the people remain in hospital. more information as we get it. in other news, i'm also going to be talking a lot about this. it's been floated, for want of a better phrase, that maybe should use some that maybe we should use some uninhabited small islands off the of the british isles the coast of the british isles to house asylum seekers. what do

you make of that? in other news as well, though , the true extent as well, though, the true extent of the channel channel child con very difficult thing to say. it's actually being exposed . are it's actually being exposed. are we now opening ourselves up to essentially con men posing as children, crossing the english channel? more on that. and yes, get a load of this. one restaurant has decided to ban vegans. do you think it should be acceptable for vegans as to be acceptable for vegans as to be banned from anywhere fast paced? our . be banned from anywhere fast paced? our. gb views gb news news.com . i want your views this news.com. i want your views this hour on whether or not we should be using some of those uninhabited little islands off the of britain to house the coast of britain to house people just arrived here people who've just arrived here on dinghies across the channel. do you think that would be a good deterrent? vaiews@gbnews.com but it is probably now with your headlines

. i patrick thank you. >> the top story this hour, the prime minister has said his thoughts are with the family of an eight year old little girl who died this morning after a land rover crashed into her primary school in in wimbledon in south—west london. police were called just before 10:00 this morning to the study prep school in wimbledon 16 people were treated at the scene . ten were treated at the scene. ten were treated at the scene. ten were taken by air ambulance to hospital. police are saying the driver was a woman in her 40s. she's been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. detective chief superintendent claire keelan said the incident is not being treated as terror related officers, along with colleagues from other emergency services , from other emergency services, provided first aid to a number of people who had been injured . of people who had been injured. very sadly, one of the children, an eight year old girl, died at the scene. our thoughts are with her family at this incredibly difficult time . the driver of difficult time. the driver of a

car, a woman aged in her 40s, stopped at the scene and has since been arrested for causing death by dangerous driving and remains in police custody . well, remains in police custody. well, obviously, a community in shock in south—west london at the moment. claire kellen's voice there, breaking emotion, there, breaking with emotion, reporting the death of that little girl. a developing little girl. it's a developing story. bring you more on little girl. it's a developing st as. bring you more on little girl. it's a developing st as we bring you more on little girl. it's a developing st as we get3ring you more on little girl. it's a developing st as we get it.1g you more on little girl. it's a developing st as we get it. now,| more on little girl. it's a developing st as we get it. now, inrore on little girl. it's a developing st as we get it. now, in othern it as we get it. now, in other news today, the government says it will work towards handing news today, the government says it wiimaterialywards handing news today, the government says it wiimaterial requested ding news today, the government says it wiimaterial requested byg news today, the government says it wiimaterial requested by the over material requested by the covid inquiry by next week . covid inquiry by next week. that's after the cabinet office lost its legal challenge over bofis lost its legal challenge over boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages . lawyers for whatsapp messages. lawyers for the government had argued the material would be irrelevant . material would be irrelevant. however, the high court has ruled the inquiry must be given full access and the government's launched a bid to take its rwanda deportation policy to the supreme court last week, the court of appeal overturn turned an earlier high court ruling, which found rwanda could be considered a safe third country for asylum seekers . it comes as for asylum seekers. it comes as the house of lords dealt a blow to the government, rejecting its

illegal migration bill. mps now having to consider a series of amendments sir keir starmer his speech outlining labour's education reform plans was interrupted today by protesters urging him to stop making u—turns on climate policies. take a look . take a look. >> done that one, will you ? just >> done that one, will you? just which side are the labour party on? we are on the side of economic growth. will you just let me please get on with this? thank you very much . thank you very much. >> well, if you're listening on radio protesters behind keir starmer holding up a banner as he's trying to announce a goal for half a million more children to reach their early learning targets by 2030. the proposal , targets by 2030. the proposal, including hiring 6500 more teachers and prioritising language skills before he was challenged. sir keir starmer had said everybody was entitled to educational opportunity , educational opportunity, something we should be able to trust. >> all of us. an unwritten contract, a bond of hope between

citizen and country , generation citizen and country, generation and generation . so i promise you and generation. so i promise you this. whatever the obstacles to opportunity , wherever the opportunity, wherever the barriers to hope, my labour government will tear them down. >> well, the education secretary , gillian keegan has responded. she says the government's already making huge improvement in schools through our reforms and through our improvements in standards, we're now fourth in the world for reading and that is amazing. >> we have just revolutionised our education system and we've also revolution organised our school system. >> go and look at what they're actually doing in wales. >> they've fiddling around with the , the standards the curriculum, the standards are going down and the outcomes are going down and the outcomes are much worse for children. >> this is too important to put in labour's hands and he actually doesn't know what he's talking about . talking about. >> retired police officers >> for retired police officers involved in the first stephen lawrence murder investigation will not face criminal charges. the crown prosecution service

says it's satisfied the national crime agency had fully investigated their actions following his murder in 1993. the initial investigation failed to bring anyone to justice. but two of stephen's murderers were eventually jailed. in 2012, conor chapman was found guilty today at liverpool crown court of the murder of elle edwards cctv footage has been released showing the 23 year old fatally shooting her outside the lighthouse pub in the wirral on christmas eve last year. mr chapman was convicted of her murder and seven other counts. he's expected to be sentenced tomorrow. ls father tim edwards says chapman showed no remorse and thought he could get away with it . with it. >> no remorse, not one ounce, not one sign of regret for what he's done . if anything, he's done. if anything, arrogance is to actually believe he can pull the wool over people's eyes and think he can get away with it .

get away with it. >> thousands of people gathered for the funeral of two teenagers who died during a police chase in ely in may. the best friends, kyrees sullivan and harvey evans died after being hit by a bus while fleeing police on an e—bike which sparked rioting in cardiff . you're with gb news. cardiff. you're with gb news. more news as we have it. now back to . back to. patrick >> well, we start with news of a major change to government policy on the migrant crisis. immigration officers will be able to use force to detain and remove child migrants if the illegal migration bill is passed. so it means that children who come across the channel can be detained , ed, channel can be detained, ed, whether they arrive on their own or with their parents or guards . now, the new bill would allow officers to use, quote, reasonable force where

absolutely necessary. i'm joined now by kevin saunders, who is the former chief immigration officer for the uk border force at calais . kevin, thank you very at calais. kevin, thank you very much. now the issue that this has is that some human rights groups and indeed some members of the house of lords are saying this all sounds very, very inhumane it ? inhumane. is it? >> good afternoon, patrick. >> good afternoon, patrick. >> it's a difficult one. this if a . 16 or 17 year old decides to a. 16 or 17 year old decides to cut up a little bit, then you've got to you've got to restrain them. >> so it is it is difficult. >> so it is it is difficult. >> i think i don't think they're talking about really young children . children. >> i think they're talking about, you know , people in their about, you know, people in their late teens and that sort of thing. >> um , but we are being conned >> um, but we are being conned by people pretending to be children. >> there's no doubt about that. >> there's no doubt about that. >> yeah, i'm quite pleased that you said that because there appeared to some discrepancy you said that because there appea thato some discrepancy you said that because there appea that earlier me discrepancy you said that because there appea that earlier on, discrepancy you said that because there appea that earlier on, whichyancy about that earlier on, which i found quite baffling. but there

we go. so kevin, at the moment, is it difficult for people to keep other people secure or if there is somebody, whether they actually be, you know, a young aduh actually be, you know, a young adult or a fully grown adult to keep other people safe from them? is there an issue when it comes to detaining and restraining those people in the eyes of the law at moment? eyes of the law at the moment? >> well, first of all, you've got to ascertain that person got to ascertain that the person in of you is actually in front of you is actually a child or under 18. >> and that in itself is difficult . and we have various difficult. and we have various bits of legislation which which well, we can't use at the moment that would enable us to make it a bit easier . a bit easier. >> but if the person is deemed to be 17 under 17, 18 years old, then they have to go off to the social services to be dealt with. >> kevin let's just have a bit

of a drill down into some of your lived experience so you're not sitting in front of a spreadsheet or some home office statistics or anything like this. you've been at the coalface , you know, a former coalface, you know, a former chief immigration officer for the uk border force at calais. how badly are we being conned by people pretending to be children ? >> well, 7- >> well, we 7— >> well, we are ? >> well, we are very we're 7 >> well, we are very we're being very badly conned and i mean, it used one of my roles would be to age, assess children . now, i'm age, assess children. now, i'm not i'm not skilled in any way to age, assess children, other than the fact that i've got two of my own. so i'm working, trying to work on the basis of whether i think it's reasonable that the person standing in front of me is or isn't a child. now now, i had i was very lucky because i had some very , very because i had some very, very good officers who were extremely

good officers who were extremely good at dealing with age assessment . and if there was assessment. and if there was ever any doubt, i'd will them out and get them to do it because they they were very good i >> -- >> but it's difficult . >> but it's difficult. >> but it's difficult. >> it's very, very difficult . >> it's very, very difficult. and you can make mistakes . and you can make mistakes. >> yeah. and indeed, we have seen mistakes. my understanding was that there is an issue whereby if somebody doesn't look visibly over the age of 25, all too often they are just given the benefit of the doubt. and we do end up with situations like we a double murderer and we had a double murderer and former dealer in a school former drug dealer in a school before. he actually before. indeed, he actually went on somebody death on on to stab somebody to death on the bournemouth. that the streets of bournemouth. that is absolute is obviously the absolute extreme example. but nonetheless , it did happen and would , it did happen and it would be quite nice if that didn't continue happen in in continue to happen in in britain. what more things do you want at your disposal? let's talk of using talk about this idea of using x rays or dental checks or stem cell technology . yes, there was cell technology. yes, there was a report published in january of this year by the chief scientific officer at the home office who actually has said or

she said, we could use x rays or mris to, you know, determine age i >> however, there is legislation . under the 2004 law, one of the 2004 health acts about the use of ionising x rays. >> and i know that the home office have actually referred this to the ministry of justice for their view on it. so you know, once once again, we're stuck stuck with the lawyers looking at things to tell us what we can and cannot do. now >> absolutely. and it is, in your view, a definitive tactic that people are using unquestionably , as we look at unquestionably, as we look at the figures from the home office that for 2020 and 2021, 66% of disputed asylum seekers claims turned out to be adults. that is

a high proportion, a very high proportion. is this a deliberate tactic ? tactic? >> it is, patrick, but it's because we're worried about saying no , we don't think this saying no, we don't think this person is an adult or yes, we do think this person is an adult when they're not. >> so what is happening is we're we're looking on the, you know, the safe side of things, if you like. and that's why the figures are so high with this one that you were talking about earlier, he didn't come in through dover at dover . it's it there are at dover. it's it there are professionals at dover that that can deal with this . this guy can deal with this. this guy came in, i think, through paul. >> and i don't think paul has quite the same facilities as as dover does now. >> all right. well, look, kevin, thank you very, very much. i mean, it's been great to actually chat to someone who's

been there and seen this stuff firsthand as opposed to, you know, just kind parrot ing, know, just kind of parrot ing, whatever spreadsheet, whatever kind of spreadsheet, etcetera, whatever kind of spreadsheet, etcetera them. there is no front of them. there is no substitute for practical lived experience. you experience. kevin and you certainly of certainly have quite a lot of that. saunders there is a that. kevin saunders there is a former immigration former chief immigration officer former chief immigration officer for force at for the uk border force at calais. and yes, this is in relation to the idea now that hopefully anyway, the illegal hopefully anyway, if the illegal migration bill goes through, then there will be more of a capacity use reasonable force capacity to use reasonable force where absolutely necessary in order to actually contain and look after the people who are around. you know. unruh really individuals who are claiming to be children, whether or not they are with their own parents or guardians as well. and it would appear to me that that is just a sensible thing. we have a culture of fear around protecting our own borders at the minute gbviews@gbnews.com. i'm returning to i'm going to be returning to similar ish on this. similar ish topic on this. another has been another suggestion has been put forward about un forward as well about using un inhabhed forward as well about using un inhabited the coast inhabited islands off the coast of britain as detention centres for channel migrants. would that act as some kind of deterrent? is that that is there any way that that policy legs ? so i'll be

policy has got legs? so i'll be returning to that shortly. loads more this our website more of this on our website though. .com. though. gb news .com. the fastest news fastest growing national news site country. the big site in the country. all the big opinion, best analysis, big breaking news as well. now talking of breaking news, this broke, not so long ago. a 23 year old connor chapman has been found guilty at liverpool crown court of the murder of elle edwards. she was shot outside the lighthouse pub in wallasey village in wirral on christmas eve last year. we can go live now to liverpool to our gb news north—west. reporter sophie reaper thank you very, reaper sophie, thank you very, very much. the latest, very much. what's the latest, please . please. >> well, patrick, this morning , >> well, patrick, this morning, the judge in this trial just goose sent out. the jury comprised of seven women and five men, for them to begin their deliberations. now they returned just a short while ago after a relatively short amount of time, only around 3.5 hours spent on those deliberations . spent on those deliberations. but they were able to come to a unanimous verdict finding the defendant, connor chapman, guilty on all charges. now i'm sure many of our viewers will

remember that tragic case that we broke on christmas morning that happened on christmas eve of last year. just moments before christmas day came around . a elle edwards was shot outside the lighthouse inn pub in wallasey merseyside . now, in wallasey merseyside. now, throughout this trial, the prosecution have said that it was connor chapman who opened fire outside the pub and the reason for doing so was to try and kill kieran salkeld and jake duffy , two of the men who were duffy, two of the men who were in fact also injured within the shooting . and that's, they say, shooting. and that's, they say, because of a feud between two rival estates here on the wirral . chapman, however, has always maintained his innocence. he said that that night he was in his home and now we have got a verdict. and part of this trial was the jury being shown cctv footage which showed a gunman opening fire outside the pub, firing 12 shots with a sub machine gun. the judge told the jury machine gun. the judge told the jury it was their responsibility

to determine whether or not the defendant , connor chapman, to determine whether or not the defendant, connor chapman, was the gunman or not. they have now come back, returning with their unanimous verdict to say that he was indeed the gunman, that he was indeed the gunman, that he was guilty of the murder of ellie edwards as well as seven other charges , including two other charges, including two counts of attempted murder and possession of a scorpion submachine gun and ammunition , submachine gun and ammunition, arson with intent to endanger for life. now, of course, this has been wholly tragic for the family of ellie edwards losing her altogether, but also to lose her altogether, but also to lose her on christmas day. well, the christmas eve, the shooting took place, i'm sure when they found out in the early hours of christmas morning. now outside the court today, ellie edwards dad spoke to us. he said , i hope dad spoke to us. he said, i hope them to never see another christmas again, ever in their lives. of course, speaking about connor chapman and the young man that he was tried alongside , we that he was tried alongside, we know, of course, now that they they are both found guilty and

that the sentencing for them will take place tomorrow afternoon at 2:00 here at liverpool crown court , where we liverpool crown court, where we will hear the sentencing for connor chapman, who, just to reiterate, has now been found guilty of the murder of ellie edwards, as well as seven other charges . charges. >> sophie, thank you very much. sophie reaper there. gb news north—west. reporter for now, our campaign to stop the uk becoming a cashless society . becoming a cashless society. motty. the campaign is called don't kill cash, and it only launched on monday, but already more than 142,000 people have signed our petition. so thank you very much. well done, everybody. now, if you want to add support, simply to add your support, simply go to gb news forward slash cash. gb news .com forward slash cash. now a group of trans activists have a major defeat today as well after failing in their bid to have the lgb alliance stripped of its charity status . stripped of its charity status. so a major defeat basically for a group of trans rights activists. we'll be talking

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available on apple and android or head straight to gb news dot . well in just a few minutes i will ask whether restaurant should be allowed to ban vegan . should be allowed to ban vegan. >> but another controversial topic , the transgender charity topic, the transgender charity mermaids, has lost its appeal to have charitable status stripped from the gay rights organisation lgb alliance mermaids launched

the legal action alleging the organisation is merely a front for transphobia. lgb alliance says it exists to advance the rights of lesbian, gay and bisexual people . i am joined now bisexual people. i am joined now by none other than lgbtq activist director of the peter tatchell foundation. it is peter tatchell. peter, fantastic stuff, great to have you on the show. how do you react to this is being called a victory for free speech by some? >> well, it is a victory for the lesbian gay bisexual alliance , lesbian gay bisexual alliance, but on a legal technicality , the but on a legal technicality, the judges ruled that mermaids, the trans charity , had no legal trans charity, had no legal right or standing to bring a challenge to the charity commission's decision to register the lgb alliance. >> right. what the more substantive point was whether the charity commission should have registered the lgb alliance in the first place. >> and on that point, in the first place. >> and on that point , the judges >> and on that point, the judges were split evenly. one said, no,

they shouldn't have been eligible for registration. the other said yes, they should. so it was a split decision . it was a split decision. >> okay. i mean, so was the rwanda plan to be fair. so i would have thought the writing was on the for wall mermaids. when jolyon maugham, the lawyer, piped up from the good law project, i would just politely suggest that he's more famous for clubbing a fox to death in his back garden. one christmas was kimono was wearing his wife's kimono than for winning high than he is for winning high profile legal cases. but i suppose, hey you get the lawyer who afford . why should who can afford. why should anyone not be allowed to promote just lgb rights and not the t? >> well, of course everyone has that right. you can promote whatever you want within the law. that's fine . but let's be law. that's fine. but let's be clear. the lgb alliance has negligible support within the lgbt+ community. he is a tiny fringe , discredited organisation fringe, discredited organisation and most people will have nothing to do with it. it has no

significant support and it was set up precisely in order to split the lgbt+ community to turn lesbian , gay and bisexual turn lesbian, gay and bisexual people against trans people and to oppose trans inclusion. that's the purpose of why it was set up. >> is it really ? is it not just >> is it really? is it not just that it was lesbian women who didn't want trans men in their changing rooms ? well that's an changing rooms? well that's an issue which they have addressed, and that is an issue which we can have a debate about. >> but the important thing is that when you look at what the lgb alliance actually does , so lgb alliance actually does, so much of its effort is focussed on opposing trans rights and inclusion very little about supporting lesbian , gay and supporting lesbian, gay and bisexual people. it promised to set up a helpline . we are still set up a helpline. we are still waiting, you know , it hasn't set waiting, you know, it hasn't set up the helpline. we don't need a helpline. we've already got dozens of helplines across the country . country. >> is mermaids not equally controversial , all >> is mermaids not equally controversial, all though? i

mean, they stood accused of doing a few things which obviously strenuously obviously they quite strenuously deny. obviously they quite strenuously deny . but obviously they quite strenuously deny. but about rushing to transition children helping children transition, referring children transition, referring children to this tavistock clinic that has now obviously got a huge amount of negative press as well. i mean, is there not an argument to say that mermaids is even more fringe and potential only just using some of your own words here? i think potentially even more dangerous and divisive than the lgb lot ? and divisive than the lgb lot? >> well, if we look at mermaids record, we know that the vast majority of parents and trans young people who have gone to mermaids praise its work and have found it really helpful and they do not complain about mermaids . mermaids. >> they say that mermaids has in some cases, the parents say mermaids saved my child's life . mermaids saved my child's life. i fear my child may have committed suicide, hadn't got

the support they receive from mermaids . so the support they receive from mermaids. so mermaids, it may not be blameless, but it overwhelmingly it's doing amazing positive work that is supported by both trans young people and their parents and their parents. >> apparently , mermaids relies >> apparently, mermaids relies primarily on donations. i'm just wondering for the purposes of disclosure, have you ever donated to mermaids? i haven't. >> no. >> no. okay. >> no. okay. all >> no. okay. all right. >> no. okay. all right. fair enough. fair enough. is it not support? >> i do support their work based on friends that i know whose young people have gone to mermaids and been given huge help on their mental and physical health has dramatically improved by getting that support from mermaids . so i think they from mermaids. so i think they do amazing work. >> all right. your views, peter. thank you very much. peter tatchell there , who is an lgbtq tatchell there, who is an lgbtq activist, director of the peter tatchell foundation . yes, it is tatchell foundation. yes, it is interesting to see these groups kind of eating each other alive, isn't it ? it doesn't really isn't it? it doesn't really matter about the rights and wrongs of it. i mean, i suppose

it does matter about the rights and wrongs of it, but it is just and wrongs of it, but it is just a fascinating thing to see that these splitting these groups are now splitting a community motty and it just feels divisive, feels all very, very divisive, doesn't it? but we go doesn't it? but there we go anyway. here's a question anyway. right. here's a question for restaurant for you. should restaurant owners be allowed to ban vegan is yes. i'm asking this. owners be allowed to ban vegan is yes. i'm asking this . after is yes. i'm asking this. after an increasing number of vegan activists targeted restaurants moaning that they don't sell enough vegan options. well, the owner an of wight owner of an isle of wight restaurant has come out and said that, yeah, he just banned them, basically. i'm just wondering whether or not that was okay. joining me now is ross clark, the author of the book zero. the author of the book not zero. ross should it be okay to ban vegans from places ? vegans from places? >> well, i don't like the idea of banning vegans per se or any other group of people, but i can quite understand how restaurateurs feel that way if they've been set upon by aggressive vegan activists and i read the piece in the daily mail, which you alluded to there by the restaurateur on the isle

of wight, absolutely disgusting what's happened to her? i mean, she published her menus online for people to peruse before they booked the restaurant. they didn't happen to be any vegan opfion didn't happen to be any vegan option there. there were vegetarian options , but not a vegetarian options, but not a vegan option . whereupon she was vegan option. whereupon she was contacted by this vegan activist saying, when are you going to put a vegan option on there? and when she explained, you know, there's a sort of a small restaurant with a restricted menu and she she didn't have a vegan option there, you know, they set upon her and, you know, this usual old trick of using tripadvisor and putting fake reviews on there to try and rubbish a restaurant and, you know , it's just disgusting. know, it's just disgusting. >> people got nothing better on, you know, maybe they should eat a steak and cheer up this lot. seriously i mean, the i just go to another restaurant or go to another restaurant, anywhere to another restaurant or go to anotiyou estaurant, anywhere to another restaurant or go to anotiyou don'tant, anywhere to another restaurant or go to anotiyou don't even anywhere to another restaurant or go to anotiyou don't even have 'where to another restaurant or go to anotiyou don't even have to em to another restaurant or go to anotiyou don't even have to go else. you don't even have to go to a restaurant if you're a vegan.i to a restaurant if you're a vegan. i suppose you go to

vegan. i suppose you just go to a and eat the grass. so a field and eat the grass. so why would they desperately try to to to force a restaurant to have a vegan old vegan option? is that old frankie joke, which frankie boyle joke, which i won't repeat, but course won't repeat, but of course there is always vegan option, there is always a vegan option, isn't this isn't there? you know, is this isn't there? you know, is this is this kind of a is this is this kind of a militant tendency to the vegans , think? , do you think? >> well , it goes further >> well, it goes further than just having a vegan option. i mean, you know, seen the mean, you know, we've seen the behaviour groups , behaviour of these groups, animal rising other vegan animal rising and other vegan groups who sort of, you know, enter supermarket hits and you know, pour milk on the floor and, and all this sort of thing. school meat is murder , all this school meat is murder, all this kind of business. i mean, you know, it's not for me to lay down what people should or shouldn't eat. if people want to eat vegan diets , then that's eat vegan diets, then that's fine by me. but just don't try and ram it down the throat to the rest of us. and one thing is sort of vegan can never get away from is the fact that humans are omnivores and we have been for many millions of years . you meat many millions of years. you meat is part of our diet and you

suffer if you don't have meat. i mean, it was sort of vegans will tell you, oh, it's all right if you have the take the supplements. well i said what doesit supplements. well i said what does it tell you about your diet the fact that you need supplements ? i don't take any supplements? i don't take any dietary supplements. i don't need them because some meat i vegetables, i eat a bit of everything. you know , if you do everything. you know, if you do that balanced diet , you get all that balanced diet, you get all the nutrients you need and you know , it's really sort of know, it's really sort of disturbing the way that the veganism gets sort of rammed down. >> why don't we just ban them? why don't we just ban them like you would ban a troublesome customer. so if i went on if i felt so i mean, it says a lot about these people's lives, right, that they feel so energised about. they've gone out of way to look at out of their way to look at a small new restaurant's menu. they've then contacted that restaurant to say , i think it's restaurant to say, i think it's an absolute ocean going disgrace that you don't have a vegan option. will you me a vegan option. will you give me a vegan opfion option. will you give me a vegan option so i can come and eat

here now? and they here right now? and they go, well, then round up well, no. and then they round up a crew of vegans. i don't know what for what the collective noun for a group is, but there we group of vegans is, but there we go. and they make them go. and then they make them attack with fake attack them with fake tripadvisor reviews. it does make me think, well, maybe you've got quite a sad life . but you've got quite a sad life. but if i just did that about restaurant, i would expect to be banned anyway because i'd be a nuisance. suppose in that nuisance. so i suppose in that context it would be to bar context it would be okay to bar vegans. would it? >> well, i've all for banning vegan active lists. i don't want to ban vegans generally, but vegan active lists, people are out there to cause trouble. well, yes, they should be banned from restaurants if you go shoplifting , you can get banned shoplifting, you can get banned from shops and so on. i mean, if you go into a restaurant or other establishment cause trouble and protest and pour milk on the floor or post tripadvisor reviews , i'm well, tripadvisor reviews, i'm well, yes, there is a good case for banning you then from and selfish .

selfish. >> i think it's selfish from every in britain bad thing it's asking it's asking people to go around isn't it. and conform to their way of thinking sometimes and to make allowances and go the extra mile just for them. and you know, it may be pinpoints that they think they're more special than they're a bit more special than everybody else. ross, thank they're a bit more special than eververyy else. ross, thank they're a bit more special than eververy much. ross, thank they're a bit more special than eververy much. rossaoss, thank they're a bit more special than eververy much. ross clark.hank they're a bit more special than eververy much. ross clark. there you very much. ross clark. there is the author of the book not zero. few minutes zero. so well in a few minutes time, i ask whether or not time, i will ask whether or not migrants unaccompanied migrants, people just come across migrants unaccompanied migrants, peo channel just come across migrants unaccompanied migrants, peo channel shouldcome across migrants unaccompanied migrants, peo channel should bere across migrants unaccompanied migrants, peo channel should be inhabited. the channel should be inhabited. sorry should live on uninhabited islands off the uk coast. that islands off the uk coast. that is a suggestion that has been floated. what do you make of that ? there's floated. what do you make of that? there's loads of interesting views coming in gbviews@gbnews.com, but right now headlines polly . patrick. >> thank you. the top story this houn >> thank you. the top story this hour, the prime minister says his thoughts are with the family of an eight year old girl who died after a land rover crashed into a primary school in south—west london this morning .

south—west london this morning. police were called just before 10:00 this morning to the study prep school in wimbledon, 16 people were treated at the scene. ten were taken to hospital by air ambulance. police say the driver is a woman in her 40s and she's been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . her death by dangerous driving. her voice breaking with emotion as she told reporters about the death of the child. detective chief superintend claire keelan said the incident isn't being treated as terror related and officers , along with colleagues officers, along with colleagues from other emergency services , from other emergency services, provided first aid to a number of people who had been injured . of people who had been injured. very sadly, one of the children, an eight year old girl, died at the scene . our thoughts are with the scene. our thoughts are with her family at this incredibly difficult time . the driver of a difficult time. the driver of a car, a woman aged in her 40s, stopped at the scene and has since been arrested for causing death by dangerous driving and remains in police custody . now remains in police custody. now the government says it will work

toward handing over material requested by the covid inquiry by next week. that's after the cabinet office lost its legal challenge over boris johnson's un redacted whatsapp messages . un redacted whatsapp messages. lawyers for the government had argued the material might be irrelevant. however, the high court ruled the inquiry must be given full access to the messages and the government has launched its bid to take its rwanda deportation policy to the supreme court. last week , the supreme court. last week, the court of appeal overturned an earlier high court ruling which found rwanda could be considered a safe third country for asylum seekers . that comes as the house seekers. that comes as the house of lords dealt a blow to the government rejecting its illegal migration bill. mps now having to consider a series of amendments as conor chapman was found guilty today at liverpool crown court of the murder of elle edwards. cctv footage has been released showing the 23 year old fatally shooting her outside the lighthouse pub in the wirral on christmas eve last yeah the wirral on christmas eve last year. mr chapman was convicted

of her murder and seven other counts. he's expected to be sentenced tomorrow for retired police officers involved in the first stephen lawrence murder investigation will not face criminal charges for misconduct. the crown prosecutor service says it is now satisfied that the national crime agency had fully investigated their actions following the murder in 1993. the initial investigation failed to bring anyone to justice, but two of stephen's murderers were eventually jailed. in 2012, kyiv let's just bring you some breaking news we're receiving regarding tube strikes. the underground london underground here in london. we're getting news from the rmt that they have announced their members will strike for a week on the london underground from july the 23rd. that's in there . continuing that's in there. continuing dispute over pay, pensions and working conditions. more on that, of course, as we get it. more on all those stories head to our website, gbnews.com .

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asylum seekers in hotels , on asylum seekers in hotels, on barges in disused military bases in purpose built accommodation, we built accommodation even though on an uninhabited island, this part of the uk, around 500 male migrants are about to be housed on a barge off the coast of portland in dorset. but i wanted to talk a lot about a couple of the islands that maybe are disposal as well. but let's get the view of a portland resident. it is martin summers. martin, thank you very, very much . we do have a couple of much. we do have a couple of these really well for you, actually, he's quite minuscule, uninhabited islands. and, you know , some of channel know, some of these channel migrants might have to fight off some puffins dare it, some puffins or dare i say it, a few sheep. but there are actually where could actually places where we could put might a put them that might not be a barge near where you barge somewhere near where you live. you react to live. how would you react to that? >> well , hello, patrick. >> well, hello, patrick. >> well, hello, patrick. >> something needs to be done other than placing 500 men on a barge , which initially was built

barge, which initially was built for 200 men and if priti patel is assertion is correct, that 70% of the illegal mining boats that are crossing the channel are here for economic purpose is surely that 70% should be returned at source. they're not genuine refugees and i would consider that they're much more likely to disappear here at source into the aether if they're if they're somewhere there on an island , then they there on an island, then they they can be processed and sent straight back rather than disappearing into the uk . disappearing into the uk. >> yes. and also , i mean, we >> yes. and also, i mean, we already have the island, so we wouldn't have to pay for the islands. we would of course, have to build some kind of purpose built accommodation on them, which hopefully that will just temporary. of the just be temporary. one of the islands been floated is islands that's been floated is a tony which is tony hudgell, which is apparently five and three

quarters miles, which is quarters square miles, which is up north the border in the up north of the border in the outer hebrides of scotland. there's also one called sampson on the scilly isles , apparently, on the scilly isles, apparently, or of scilly. don't or isles of scilly. i don't know. always get that one know. i always get that one wrong. anyway, wherever that wrong. but anyway, wherever that is, go there, is, they can go there, supposedly. and would you would you feel much more comfortable if somebody was kind of on a self contained island as opposed to on a barge in your area? do you think? >> well, yes, because at the moment the situation is this barge going to turn up and barge is going to turn up and the residents of this barge have absolute autonomy of the weymouth and portland . so weymouth and portland. so effectively, what's going to happenis effectively, what's going to happen is these people who, let's face it, we don't know the backgrounds of these people. we don't know their mental stability. we don't know really what they've been through . what they've been through. they're going to be be processed eventually . we don't know how eventually. we don't know how long that's going to take. but we do know that that a lucrative deal and secret deal has been

made with portland port and the home office to process these people who are going to have complete free time to wander around . and a very small island around. and a very small island don't forget, this is a very small island with only 13,500 residents. we're very , very residents. we're very, very short of service . liz yeah, and short of service. liz yeah, and effectively they're going to be bused around for free into , into bused around for free into, into areas of weymouth absolutely. and then and the other thing, if l, and then and the other thing, if i, if i might just if i might just cut in here. >> martin because the other the other key element of this is that supposedly let's be that supposedly and let's be honest, i will believe this when i see it, which i'm pretty confident will be never what they want to do is process us them on a barge near where you live, allegedly , we have no live, allegedly, we have no people absconding or any kind of crime or any kind of issues with women walking home late at night. so let's assume all of

that goes swimmingly well and then they go right. we've decided that 27 of you are going to go to rwanda and then we can't send any of them to rwanda because that might end up some lefty judge will say, oh, this is this is illegal. whereas if we started using some of our own islands, this of course, would be british soil. so there's no way that the courts could say, well , you way that the courts could say, well, you can't possibly send them over over there. that's a human rights violation . so human rights violation. so actually, in that sense , in that actually, in that sense, in that sense, it would remove what is almost definitely going to happen, which is that are happen, which is that you are going with the same going to end up with the same people on that same people living on that same barge, possibly for years i >> -- >> yes.i >> yes. i mean, if you if you take the position that australia has taken, they they have sent out all the migrants to papua new guinea , new guinea. they new guinea, new guinea. they have done offshore processing. there i mean, if you look at ellis island back in the 1820s to 1957, they process 65 million

people and it was on an island. so these people were looked after and they were they were given clothing, they were fed , given clothing, they were fed, they were looked after by the american government. they were they were treated probably quite well. i mean , i'm sure it wasn't well. i mean, i'm sure it wasn't all sort of beautiful roses. and it was a different time, though. >> it was a different time. yes. >> it was a different time. yes. >> these were kept on an island and processed on an island. and then it was decided those that could stay should stay. and this is what we should be doing. we've got plenty of islands that we can be doing this at where we can look after these people. i mean, know, let's mean, i'm not, you know, let's put these into good put these into into good accommodation. feed them , accommodation. let's feed them, let's give them good health care . but let's just do this properly. let's look at the people that are coming in. let's decide on those that really are of refugee status . yes. and look of refugee status. yes. and look after them. well, exactly . after them. well, exactly. >> and again, we delve into the

logistics of this. stephen glover in the daily mail today, make some cracking suggestions. glover in the daily mail today, ma says me cracking suggestions. glover in the daily mail today, ma says that racking suggestions. glover in the daily mail today, ma says that we (ing suggestions. glover in the daily mail today, ma says that we coulnggestions. glover in the daily mail today, ma says that we could get�*stions. glover in the daily mail today, ma says that we could get the ns. he says that we could get the army it'd be nice, army involved. it'd be nice, wouldn't it? give him give him army involved. it'd be nice, woulust it? give him give him army involved. it'd be nice, woulus somethingiim give him army involved. it'd be nice, woulus something to give him army involved. it'd be nice, woulus something to do.e him army involved. it'd be nice, woulus something to do. theyi give us something to do. they built in built camp bastion in afghanistan, was in the afghanistan, which was in the middle a zone. there and middle of a war zone. there and that managed accommodate that managed to accommodate 28,000 people. i seem to remember able to knock remember us being able to knock out several nightingale hospitals at the of the hospitals at the height of the pandemic relative as pandemic with relative ease as well. it wouldn't really be well. so it wouldn't really be to beyond the realms of possibility for us to, you know, erect some pretty heavy duty and 28,000 odd. that's a lot. that's at least three weekends in the channel compared to what your barge going to be, which, you barge is going to be, which, you know, in a day. know, could be full in a day. >> absolutely . i mean, as i say, >> absolutely. i mean, as i say, that it's a ludicrous and ridiculous suggestion to put a barge with 500 men that we know nothing about. i mean, we are lacking resources on portland as it is anyway. the resources that we have are so few and far between. it's a known fact we have one road in and out. if

anything, anything should , anything, anything should, should, should happen that we need help or resources. it's not necessarily going to work. it's a it's a ludicrous and radical suggestion. i mean, i understand that portland port already has a lucrative kyiv contracts with with the home office because, you know, we have , um, sort of you know, we have, um, sort of high level military activity on portland. and i understand to a certain extent their position. but i think they genuinely have made a very, very big mistake on this one and they need to just accept that and say, look, we've made a mistake. this is wrong. it won't happen. >> i don't i don't really yeah, i don't really necessarily blame the poor. i mean, if someone waves potentially he waves of bag 7 million a year. well, there you go. you know, i mean i don't do a lot for £1.7 million a to fair, martin, but a year, to be fair, martin, but it's completely self—defeating .

it's completely self—defeating. i mean, the actual idea isn't going i it going to work. i mean, it doesn't house enough these doesn't house enough of these people. costing the people. it is costing the taxpayer residents like taxpayer a lot. residents like yourself give taxpayer a lot. residents like y( lot elf give taxpayer a lot. residents like y( lot and give taxpayer a lot. residents like y( lot and potentially give taxpayer a lot. residents like y( lot and potentially face give taxpayer a lot. residents like y( lot and potentially face quitez a lot and potentially face quite a lot and potentially face quite a significant threat. it is not a significant threat. it is not a deterrent. do already a deterrent. it we do already have like sampson and have islands like sampson and like a couple of these other islands as well. like i mentioned there, taransay, which are available . and it are there and available. and it would also be fascinating, i think, martin, well, see think, martin, as well, to see how who claim to be on how people who claim to be on the side of the human rights bngade the side of the human rights brigade everything, of brigade and everything, all of a sudden caring more about sudden start caring more about areas outstanding natural areas of outstanding natural beauty or indeed, a rare newt population somewhere on an island over there than they really do about the human rights of coming across the of people coming across the channel. thank you channel. but martin, thank you very, very much. i have thoroughly this thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. us good luck to you you and i, maybe you and maybe you and i, maybe you and maybe you and i, maybe you live stream you and i should live stream a show from one of these islands and to say, well, and we can start to say, well, absolutely, the job of selling. >> who doesn't love a penguin who doesn't love a penguin? >> there we go. martin you >> there we go. martin thank you very savidge. there very much. martin savidge. there is take care. is my pleasure. bye take care. fantastic seriously, though, it

just obviously breaks my heart that people like martin are going to have their lives massively , negatively impacted going to have their lives mathis. ly , negatively impacted going to have their lives mathis. butnegatively impacted going to have their lives mathis. but there vely impacted going to have their lives mathis. but there velygo. pacted by this. but there we go. anyway, wouldn't that anyway, you wouldn't think that hanging harm to hanging baskets do much harm to the environment, but one council run labour and the lib dems run by labour and the lib dems is banning hanging baskets , is banning hanging baskets, apparently, for the sake of the environment. i know patrick christys gb news, britain's news

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channel councillors are at war in the historic city of salisbury over hanging basket at salisbury city council has voted to scrap hanging baskets as part of its sustainable planting regime . sustainable planting regime. >> it follows a review in 2019 where the council committed to making the city as carbon neutral as possible by 2030. and i must admit this is the bit i don't fully understand because i'm hanging baskets full of flowers. can't on neutral. am i missing something here? i obviously am. sven hocking is a conservative councillor for salisbury harnham east good ward. it's a good ward that right. okay. what's going on with the hanging basket ? ah hi, patrick. >> do you know what you couldn't make it up, could you? so what were you got in? salisbury is a beautiful city. yeah. historic buildings, fantastic architecture , loads of parks and architecture, loads of parks and open spaces and loads of green space. >> all sorts of stuff going on. great bars, great restaurants . great bars, great restaurants. >> and within that, we have a

fantastic city centre, which we need to keep light and bright and cheery and to maintain that feelgood factor, we need flowers and lots of them for no other reason than it makes people feel good. yeah. yeah so the city council is currently run by a liberal labour lefty indie administration and they've been afflicted by the sort of global climate change dogma and they seem to believe that unless we do something now by this time next year, the city will effectively become a smoking ruin . so out of that, we have a ruin. so out of that, we have a massive kyiv 250 paved tree and eco strategy document and you need to cut down a few trees to print that off, let me tell you. and within that somewhere it says we want to use less water. so we look at what wants to use less water and they go flowers. so we'll get shot of those. and instead of flowers, we're going to have living pillars or moss on a stick.

>> as i've heard it, a few cases now. how. >> now. >> so there you go. hey light and bright. is that not very ? and bright. is that not very? and the logic behind that is because will use less water because it will use less water and cost water. and it will cost water. >> it's the water that they're going after right. so >> it's the water that they're going after right . so because going after right. so because i was trying to figure out . but was trying to figure out. but i suppose by the time you factored in the removal of the hanging baskets and then the wrapping of said moss around, said stick , i said moss around, said stick, i mean and the transportation of all of that , some would argue all of that, some would argue that it might have just been worth keeping the hanging baskets . baskets. >> i think everybody's going to be arguing it would have been worth keeping the hanging baskets because it's okay to go green, but we don't want everything boringly green, everything just boringly green, do we? no, we need a little bit of colour and we're going to lose all that if we're not careful. >> i'm sorry, but i don't claim to be a massive expert on on salisbury. but my understanding is that there is rather a lot of green space in salisbury.

>> there is tonnes of famously yes , absolutely right . so you yes, absolutely right. so you would think there's enough ecological stuff going on to be able to manage a few flowers and water them without pretty much upsetting half the city. >> yeah, fantastic . >> yeah, fantastic. >> yeah, fantastic. >> i tell you what, i hope to talk to you again very soon. i am now going to be all over this story like a rash. i cannot drop this. we'll there training this. we'll be there training myself hanging basket myself to a hanging basket somewhere salisbury high somewhere in salisbury high street . street. >> do you know what one of the reasons that they said to us that they're doing this is like, hilariously so. it's supply chain issues. it's global events and political change. so not only is it war, obviously the war in ukraine is having a massive effect on what is going on with our plants. yeah. anyway thank you, sven. >> i've got to go. i've got to go. we'll pick this up. sven go. but we'll pick this up. sven hocking, conservative hocking, now conservative councillor right. councillor for salisbury. right. okay. you much, okay. thank you very much, everybody. i will be back on tonight, p.m. covid nigel tonight, 7 pm. for covid nigel farage. it yet again another

farage. it is yet again another massive nigel farage rachel ayers. tuned ayers. please stay tuned for that. co though, i'm that. dewbs& co now though, i'm alex this is your alex deakin and this is your latest update from the latest weather update from the met office for gb news. >> wet and windy weather has already moved in across northern ireland and it's going to become more extensive scotland. more extensive across scotland. thanks low thanks to this area of low pressure. more of those pressure. there's more of those waiting wings for the waiting in the wings for the weekend well. but high weekend as well. but high pressure still controlling pressure is still controlling things a chunk things across a good chunk of england. we've seen 1 england. well, yes, we've seen 1 or showers, but places or 2 showers, but most places here staying through this here staying fine through this evening. and some good spells of sunshine across the south, but wet weather for wet and windy weather for northern ireland spreading across scotland. some heavy bursts rain, particularly bursts of rain, particularly through south—west through the south—west of scotland. rain scotland. a little bit of rain at for north—west england, at times for north—west england, north wales but north and west wales too, but most and wales having most of england and wales having a and a clear night a dry night and a clear night certainly across many central and eastern parts, a warmer night than last night. temperatures towns and temperatures in most towns and cities teens . a cities staying in the teens. a wet start into friday for northern ireland and much of central and southern scotland. that will pull away to the that rain will pull away to the north. most of england and wales, sunny and hot in the

sunshine as well. and the humidity may spark some afternoon thunderstorms across the west of northern ireland and 1 2 the west of scotland, 1 or 2 of the west of scotland, but generally turning drier across central scotland. temperatures for temperatures here and for northern ireland into the low 20s. widely into the mid 20s. but widely into the mid even high 20s. across eastern england, 30 celsius possible. england, 30 celsius is possible. it will be hot and humid on friday evening and staying that way through the night as well. quite uncomfortable night for quite an uncomfortable night for some the largely clear some with the largely clear skies . but a change then as we skies. but a change then as we head into saturday and those weather systems we saw earlier out in the atlantic, bringing the risk of heavy thundery showers from saturday morning onwards across the south—west, but then spreading to the midlands up into scotland and eventually into eastern parts of england. torrential england. some torrential downpours are possible on saturday. large hail stones, gusty winds as well, very warm and humid day across the east. but as the storms clear, it

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