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that we buckingham palace that we managed to get from twitter for you . so police negotiating with you. so police negotiating with that individual. as you can see, just onlookers not knowing quite what is going on, have been asked to leave the area by the police force and the area around buckingham palace, we understand, is being cleared. it is a developing story. it has just come to us within the last few moments. and a man has handcuffed, handcuffed himself to the gates of buckingham palace. we'll see why or what reason is behind that just as soon as that detail comes to us. now, in other news today, we can tell you that the prime minister has sent his condolences and his thoughts to the family of the eight year old girl who was killed today by a land rover, which crashed into her primary school. the area was south—west london, in fact , wimbledon london, in fact, wimbledon police were called there just before 10:00 this morning to the study prep school. it was the last day of term at the school. 16 people, we understand,
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treated at the scene. ten were airlifted, did to the hospital by air ambulance . police saying by air ambulance. police saying the driver, a woman in her 40s, has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . well, with her voice driving. well, with her voice breaking with emotion as she reported the death of the child, detective chief superintendent claire keelan said the incident isn't being treated as terror related officers, along with colleagues from other emergency services , provided first aid to services, provided first aid to a number of people who had been injured . injured. >> very sadly, one of the children, an eight year old girl, died at the scene . our girl, died at the scene. our thoughts are with her family at this incredibly difficult time . this incredibly difficult time. the driver of a car, a woman agedin the driver of a car, a woman aged in her 40, stopped at the scene and has since been arrested for causing death by dangerous driving and remains in police custody . police custody. >> well, in other breaking news that came to us today, the rmt union has announced a strike on the london underground. its members , we're told, will stop
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members, we're told, will stop work from the 23rd to the 28th of july. those services will run on the 24th. they're walking out in their continuing dispute over pensions and working conditions . the high court has said today the government will have to hand over material requested by the covid inquiry. the government says it will do it by next week . it comes after the cabinet office lost its legal challenge over boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages . lawyers for whatsapp messages. lawyers for the government had argued the material might be irrelevant, but the high court ruled the inquiry must be given full access and the government's had to launch a bid to take its rwanda deportation policy to the supreme court last week, the court of appeal overturned an earlier high court ruling, which found rwanda could be considered a safe third country for asylum seekers . but that comes a safe third country for asylum seekers. but that comes as a safe third country for asylum seekers . but that comes as the seekers. but that comes as the house of lords dealt a blow to the government rejecting its illegal migration bill. mps will now consider a series of amendments . connor chapman was
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amendments. connor chapman was found guilty today at liverpool crown court of the murder of elle edwards. cctv footage has been released showing the 23 year old fatally shooting her outside the lighthouse pub in the wirral on christmas eve last yeah the wirral on christmas eve last year. ms chapman was convicted of her murder and of seven other counts. he's expected to be sentenced tomorrow. ls father tim edwards said. chapman showed no remorse and thought he could get away with it . oceangate, the get away with it. oceangate, the company that managed the tourist submersible that dived the titanic shipwreck in the north atlantic , we are told this atlantic, we are told this afternoon , has suspended all afternoon, has suspended all exploration action and all commercial operations. ocean gate had planned two expeditions would take place next year. they're now cancelled and the authorities are investigating the cause of last month's undersea implosion , which killed undersea implosion, which killed all five people on board. that's your latest news update. you are up to date on tv online dab+
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radio and the tune in app. this is gb news, britain's news. channel >> we have found the solution to the channel migrant crisis. it isfime the channel migrant crisis. it is time to set up detention centres on uninhabited islands off the british coast. this idea was put forward by stephen glover in the daily mail and i think it works. i think this is it. this is the answer. let's do it. this is the answer. let's do it. we have several uninhabited islands like samson on the scilly isles or taransay in the outer hebrides. we should turn them all into giant migrant camps. and when we pick people up in the channel, we can take them straight. there they are uninhabited. apparently so no local residents will be disadvantaged by building the one off large migrant camp one off large scale migrant camp will cost us a fraction of continually buying barges and renting out hotels and build new social housing. crucially these
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are british territories, so it completely removes the need to go through the courts and get a positive ruling on rwanda. we will not be outsourcing our responsibilities . we will not be responsibilities. we will not be sending them to a country with a dodgy human rights record. we are, of course, a safe country. we currently have a situation where people of portland where the people of portland have a multi—million pound barge docking in their port, soon to be of free channel be full of free range channel migrant men . these people will migrant men. these people will stay for processing , but we all stay for processing, but we all know that none of them will end up to rwanda. so the barge up going to rwanda. so the barge is in week end and then is full in a week end and then they probably just stay there indefinitely, massively impacting local residents. this problem is solved with channel migrants island riffs . scampton migrants island riffs. scampton can getits migrants island riffs. scampton can get its £300 million regeneration scheme. now can't it? regeneration scheme. now can't it.7 because the 2000 men that were going to be housed there can instead be housed on channel migrant island . taransay is five migrant island. taransay is five and three quarters square miles . supposedly it could easily accommodate about 50,000 people,
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couldn't it .7 they would be safe couldn't it.7 they would be safe and they would finally have the asylum that they so desperately craved. they they would be, of course, very , very well looked course, very, very well looked after. we build the infrastructure, the public would also be safe and some of those people would never have to go to africa, to rwanda, or in some cases, of course, go back to africa. it shuts up. the human rights brigade doesn't it.7 it would cheaper in long would be cheaper in the long run. and it would, of course, crucially be a deterrent. it would create jobs. we'd would also create jobs. we'd need people work on channel would also create jobs. we'd need pe island, work on channel would also create jobs. we'd need pe island, all'k on channel would also create jobs. we'd need pe island, all these zhannel would also create jobs. we'd need pe island, all these legalzl migrant island, all these legal loophole technicalities have allowed our country to be absolutely rinsed by illegal immigration. it's absolutely rinsed by illegal immigration . it's about time we immigration. it's about time we started turning the tables , started turning the tables, isn't it.7 yes, you can stay in britain for processing and quite possibly be granted asylum , but possibly be granted asylum, but you will spend your time on that island over there . why do you island over there. why do you want that? >> or does front suddenly look lovely ? lovely? >> what are the house of lords going to do about this? they say it will cost too much to set up. i mean, the current plans are
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costing us billions. will they say it's against people's human rights? how it's a british territory? surely they wouldn't rights? how it's a british ter stupid surely they wouldn't rights? how it's a british ter stupid surely titor wouldn't rights? how it's a british ter stupid surely tito findjldn't be stupid enough to find themselves on record and themselves going on record and revealing actually revealing that they actually care for the being of care more for the well being of the puffin population the indigenous puffin population on rocky outcrop than on a remote rocky outcrop than they do for the emotional financial and physical well—being of actual british citizens . our military managed citizens. our military managed to knock up a few army bases in war zones in afghanistan at camp bastion, apparently managed to accommodate around 24,000 people. those nightingale hospitals up pretty quickly hospitals went up pretty quickly , they? souls all , didn't they? this souls all our problems. well done, stephen glover, for cracking the problem . it's glover, for cracking the problem .wsfime glover, for cracking the problem . it's time we used our own resources to solve this issue . resources to solve this issue. let's get these islands set up now . well, in the studio, now. well, in the studio, joining me right now is fadi farage, senior legal consultant at gulbenkian andonian lawyers. thank you very, very much, fadi. great to have you on the show and in the studio. will this work? >> thank you very much. it's a pleasure to be here. will it work? well it is. it is a plan b
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proposed by stephen glover as a minimum. that's a plan b that the government doesn't have. so he's done something which one could say is at least better than what the government's proposed , because the proposed, because the government's pretty much put its put everything on the rwanda policy and the stop the boats slogan on stephen glover bases his article on its reaction to the court of appeal judgement, which came last week, which found that rwanda is not a safe third country and by taking that problem or perceived problem, depending on which side of the political argument you're on, he's then proposed an alternative cure problem alternative to cure that problem . um, it doesn't mean that . um, but it doesn't mean that the in itself doesn't the proposal in itself doesn't create problem and that create a new problem and that new problem in this current proposal is that it's based on an isolated, uninhabited island which will lack the infrastructure and therefore, by definition could also be perceived as an open air prison, as a detention camp, as opposed deterrent camp. >> again, on which >> again, depending on which side deterrent exactly. >> so then raises issues as
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>> and so then raises issues as to the right to liberty as to whilst having your claim assessed , whether you should be assessed, whether you should be in a state of detention because there is established laws or case law on the right to liberty, and that being in detention or in a state of detention or in a state of detention is not permissible . if detention is not permissible. if looked at from that point of view, then one man's processing centre is another man's open air prison. >> it's sponsored by hilton or something. then all of a sudden it goes from being a detention centre to potentially a hotel, which is not dissimilar to what was on offer in rwanda. >> and in effect, that will be a question of pr and presentation. but on the issue of cost, for example, it will be it will cost a fraction of the cost initially, but you're then going to have maintaining infrastructure and you're then going to have staff or you're going to have staff or you're going to have access to doctors and professionals, and medical professionals, perhaps , because people perhaps schools, because people will some access to will want some access to education or children that are there . and comes there. and with that comes hospitals and the infrastructure around it will then add up to
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ongoing costs. so then we turn from the legal to the political and whether the ongoing costs in the end is going to mount up. and if that happens, then we're actually proposing chucking money at something that may not be sustainable . be sustainable. >> absolutely. i thought about this and i think that the financial argument has been one for channel migrants island because if we look at the hotel costs and the accommodation costs and the accommodation costs that are already predicted at the current rate to hit somewhere in the region of around £11 billion, if we keep doing what we're doing now, the cost for social housing that will go through the roof, the cost on our existing infrastructure , because infrastructure, because we are going have build new going to have to build new hotels, new hospitals hotels, sorry, new hospitals probably have to build a few new hotels well. schools, new hotels as well. new schools, new roads, new houses, everything for existing level of people for the existing level of people that we are accepting in it that we are accepting in as it currently stands. we're going currently stands. so we're going to do that one way or to have to do that one way or the i don't see why the other. so i don't see why channel migrant should be channel migrant island should be ruled a result the
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ruled out as a result of the costing side it. you costing side of it. you mentioned an important point there. i just to revisit there. i just want to revisit this. legalities this. it's about the legalities of so it would of detention then. so it would have not be visibly , not be have to not be visibly, not be singularly a detention centre. it would have to basically be a new small town. >> yes . and in that sense , it >> yes. and in that sense, it will then be for the courts to determine. so when we talk about the human rights issues or the human rights brigade or the various arguments that go around, ultimately you're proposing something which may have some legs, but in the end will go to down adjudication in the courts as to whether this is a detention camp , open air a detention camp, open air prison, contrary to article 5, which provides everyone with the right to liberty, or whether it is in fact a facility, a town. yeah and then you're creating a almost a country within a country. >> you are. and just very, very quickly, very quickly, on the human rights issue of it, because it would be a british territory, we wouldn't have any of those arguments that we've
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had with rwanda. presumably you? >> argument in >> no. so the argument in relation country and relation to safe country and degrading treatment degrading human treatment was based article that based on article three that solves issue because it's solves that issue because it's on british soil. but then it raises the article 5 point, which is the right to liberty. and being in a state of detention, which is usually not the preferred method. >> i must say i found this absolutely fascinating and thank you very, very much for that. that's funny throughout there. as a senior legal consultant, joining is anders joining me now is anders vistisen mep for the danish people's party. okay. the party were previously involved in plans in denmark which would have seen asylum seekers sent to the small danish island of lindholm, which should have done its own pr make a new home in lindholm . but it didn't quite lindholm. but it didn't quite work , did it? talk to me about work, did it? talk to me about that. >> it didn't get off the ground. the danish government was there was an election and the new social democratic government abolished the plan as part of their electoral manifest . but their electoral manifest. but there were no substantial legal
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arguments against it. it was purely a political question. while the interim was abolished as an idea in danish migration policy. >> okay, so just fill us in exactly what was the what was the policy then? so what were you going to do? and what was fascinating by the way, to say that it wasn't the law that got in the way of it. it was a general election, which i suspect may be the opposite would we did it over would be true if we did it over here. but go on. so what were you going to do? >> the political agreement at the that processed the time was that you processed all applicants and also all asylum applicants and also all asylum applicants and also all asylum applicants and also all asylum seekers. all rejected asylum seekers. for instance, could instance, people who could not be that could not be war criminals, that could not be war criminals, that could not be due to, uh, concerns be returned due to, uh, concerns over their safety to the country of origin or other people who couldn't sent back couldn't be sent back forcefully. the idea was to put them on the island of lindholm and their process, their asylum applications . and if they were applications. and if they were returned from getting their applications approved , put them applications approved, put them there indefinitely until the time that they could return to a
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country preferable to their home country preferable to their home country or another country that would be willing to accept them and what was already on. >> lindholm was it already did it have facilities already ? it have facilities already? >> it had some old government facilities. it had actually been a test facility for contagious diseases. so there had been some research done there historically and different contagious diseases. so there were some building structures there, but there were no active um, no activities going on. so there were some buildings that were meant to be, um, done up and, and, and refitted to the new purpose. but there were no people living there and no active engagement on the island. >> and so even then that that was okay legally because we had our legal professional friend here who raised very good point, which is that maybe you know, one man's new town is a is another man's detention centre . another man's detention centre. and there may well be some rules
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and regulations about all of that. but you were essentially going to go ahead and plough ahead with this until an election happened. and that meant that you couldn't do it because i believe you were your party, were do you do you think that britain should do you think that britain should do you think that britain should do you think that britain should do this ? we that britain should do this? we have similar capacity in terms have a similar capacity in terms of the islands. do you think it's this is this is our answer. >> the answer to this is illegal migration is deterrence . we can migration is deterrence. we can see that denmark as a country that have put a lot of effort on deterring people from coming, have dropped from one of the top, receiving countries the top, receiving countries in the european to the very european union to the very bottom. of course , if you bottom. so, of course, if you want to reduce the number of migrants, need deterrence migrants, you need deterrence from going it needs to be from going to uk. it needs to be more attractive to stay in france than to go to the uk. i think the only legal argument we had was we had to had to do was that we had to have a ferry going back and forward. but since you can price the a where most the ferry at a level where most people that doesn't work and most migrant doesn't work in this it can't afford the
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this case it can't afford the ticket. the assessment was that it was within the scope of the european human rights convention, but of course, we also have a similar problems with some elements of the european rights convention european human rights convention that too political that simply too political and where court gone too where the court have gone too far interpretation of far and the interpretation of what considered a human right what is considered a human right and what is considered to be a justified self—defence of a national state, that is absolutely fascinating. >> i would love to get you back on and talk to you again, because i do hope that this idea does genuinely have legs. and i think we could learn a lot from you and from what your party tried from what the tried to do and from what the least domestic level rulings were the court that anders were of the court that anders vistisen, their mep for the danish people's party , and they danish people's party, and they were previously involved in setting up essentially something like what we've been proposing here. stephen glover of the daily been proposing. daily mail has been proposing. but go. get your but there we go. look get your views in views coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. farage. gb news as well is another way of getting in touch with us. but up next, we go live to gb news.
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reporter lisa hartle in wimbledon for an update on on today's tragic crash . lots of today's tragic crash. lots of unanswered questions there. we will also be giving you the latest on this ongoing breaking incident at buckingham palace where a man has handcuffed himself to the gates there . so himself to the gates there. so two big breaking topics for us in just a sec. stay, shane .
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need to step up as we have stepped up. for instance, your listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. >> okay , two big pieces of news >> okay, two big pieces of news to bring you right now. tragically, today in wimbledon, an eight year old girl has been killed, ten people taken to hospital after a land rover crashed a school wall. the crashed into a school wall. the met police said a woman in her 40s arrested on 40s has been arrested on suspicion causing death suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . she does dangerous driving. she does remain in police custody. we're going to go to somewhere near the scene now with gb news
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reporter lisa lisa, thank you very, very much. we had a press conference earlier on with a representative from the police, the paramedics , the fire service the paramedics, the fire service and the school clearly, deeply , and the school clearly, deeply, deeply distressed. an eight year old girl sadly died at the scene. what is the latest ? scene. what is the latest? >> well, we about an hour ago, we saw what we think , what we we saw what we think, what we believe to be the land rover being taken away on a recovery vehicle by police. it was covered in green tarpaulin and police said earlier in that press conference there that the 16 people were treated at the scene . ten of those were taken scene. ten of those were taken to hospital . all the driver who to hospital. all the driver who is a woman in her 40s, has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. and they're not treating this incident as terror related. and earlier, i spoke to local mp stephen hammond . now he's he stephen hammond. now he's he told me that his daughter actually attended the school many years ago . and he said it's many years ago. and he said it's a school for children aged 4 to
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11. and this is have a listen to what he had to say. >> i just wanted to say how saddened i am and what a tragic news and to express my condolences on behalf of myself, but also the whole of the community to the parents and the family of the young girl who's lost her life and also , lost her life and also, obviously to those who are hospitalised at the moment. we hope that they will all recover . but this this news has really shocked a number of local people. this is a well known, well liked local school , lots of well liked local school, lots of wimbledon . people have sent wimbledon. people have sent their children here over many years and therefore it will have repercussions . repercussions. >> so he also told me that the road that the school is on, he said he okay, we've just got a little problem with lisa hartle , the kind of road sorry about. >> so we'll just leave that. there was lisa hartle who was at the scene of that horrific incident that took place earlier on this morning.
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incident that took place earlier on this morning . so the latest on this morning. so the latest there is that there are still no updates when it comes to the condition of the ten people who are, we understand, in are, as we understand, still in hospital. them in a very hospital. some of them in a very serious condition. now, there was another piece of breaking news fact, just broke news that, in fact, just broke moments we came on air, moments before we came on air, and that is that a man has handcuffed himself to buckingham palace poly middlehurst joins me now for the very latest on this . polly, thank you very much. yes. so what do we know so far about what's going on? >> well, details sketchy at the moment. it is a breaking story, but we can tell you the london ambulance service is on scene because this man, believed be because this man, believed to be in 30s , has handcuffed in his 30s, has handcuffed himself to the gates of buckingham palace in central london. we also understand that police are now negotiating with that individual . there were some that individual. there were some onlookers of course, lots of tourists this time of year taking pictures of buckingham palace in central london, wondering what was going on. and police beginning to clear the
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area, asking them to move away from the gates. well, we do have a statement from the metropolitan police, and they say at around 17, 23 hours. so that's 5:23 to you and i, a man approached the gates of buckingham palace and simply handcuffed himself to them. officers in the area immediately approached the man believed to be in his 30 aids, and he began threatening to harm himself . the threatening to harm himself. the london ambulance service are on scene and as we said earlier, police have said they are trying to speak to the man and bring the situation to a swift conclusion to ensure his and others safety and welfare. that is all the detail we have on this at the moment. more as we get it. patrick thank you very much. >> polly. yes, absolutely . >> polly. yes, absolutely. obviously, that is a developing story we will be bringing you all very latest up to the all of the very latest up to the minute updates on that. as we understand it, the negotiations are i are still taking place. like i said, we said, any developments and we will bring them to you right here this show. but of here on this show. but of
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course, this nigel's show . course, this is nigel's show. and so it would be wrong to not mention the big guy at all, as everyone will know by now, there has been a scandal, to say the least, taking place, involving not just nigel's banking, but a lot of other people's as well, loads of other people, all of whom it would appear, it would appear, whom it would appear, it would appear , seem to have quite appear, seem to have quite a similar political bent who are struggling at the moment when it comes to their banking. are they being pushed out of banks? are they being cancelled by banks as a result of their political leanings? well we were a bit sick and tired, frankly, of getting commented people getting no commented by people and decided that it was best and we decided that it was best to go to cootes, which is the banking question, and try to get some answers out of the people that work there. and well, i'm just going to show you now a little taste of how it went . little taste of how it went. >> gb news do you think that nigel farage should have a bank account with ms val coleman? i'm afraid, yes. >> well, it all did get a bit spicy. i must say. so i will
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play spicy. i must say. so i will play you the full version of that very, very shortly. and as well find out about how the eco warriors are now at war with each other. yes, that's right. there is a eco turf war taking place, which we will be dipping our toe into very , very, very our toe into very, very, very shortly. it's going to be action packed when i come back. don't move .
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country in the real world. join me at 7:00 on gb news, britain's news . channel now . news. channel now. >> now it's the story that has captured the nation. that's right. this man's very show that ihave right. this man's very show that i have taken over for a week as some kind of soft coup nigel farage and his banking scandal. well, earlier this week, i told you that coutts wouldn't comment on individual matters despite a source briefing the bbc and the financial times, which of course i mean did absolute wonders,
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didn't it , for the image that didn't it, for the image that maybe there are political leanings at some banks. but there we go. so we decided to go down to the london headquarters and try to get some answers for our self. we asked them why nigel's account had been cancelled if indeed he should have one and what they thought about briefings to the press and as we have discovered, i mean, good grief , if they knew about good grief, if they knew about the banks connections to slavery, we found john coutts of the coutts family, the founders of the bank had links to a tobacco plantation in virginia and staff at the firm lived in a house that kept a slave. our producer joe casper put all of that to the snooty bank. take a listen. and how we got on gb news do you think nigel farage should have a bank account with coutts? >> no. why do you think it's bad that coutts has been briefing the bbc and tuc you think it's right that nigel farage doesn't have an account with with coutts? think nigel coutts? do you think nigel farage have farage should have a bank account coutts? do
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account with coutts? do you think farage have think nigel farage should have a bank with coutts? do you bank account with coutts? do you think it's right that coutts have been briefing the press? are aware of their slave are you aware of their slave trade thank you. gb news trade links? thank you. gb news do nigel farage have do you think? nigel farage have a coutts? hi a bank account with coutts? hi gb you think nigel gb news do you think nigel farage bank farage should have a bank account with coutts? do you think that coutts think it's right that coutts have briefing bbc and have been briefing the bbc and left bank? >> i don't work here. i'm not working colin. >> i'm afraid. >> i'm afraid. >> do think nigel >> do you think that nigel farage should a bank farage should have a bank account coutts? don't account with coutts? i don't have opinion that. have an opinion on that. >> do you work for coutts? >> do you work for coutts? >> you, do shop? do you >> do you, do you shop? do you have on it? have an opinion on it? >> you. okay. thank you. >> thank you. okay. thank you. >> thank you. okay. thank you. >> news do you think that >> gb news do you think that nigel should a bank nigel farage should have a bank account with coutts? do you think right coutts think it's right that coutts have briefing press on have been briefing the press on nigel farage's personal bank information? >> i have at all. i'm >> i have no idea at all. i'm not okay, thank you . not okay, thank you. >> are you aware of coutts slave trade links ? do you think nigel trade links? do you think nigel farage should have a bank account with coutts ? any comment account with coutts? any comment on that ? thank you. if he gets
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on that? thank you. if he gets right that they've cancelled his bank account. thank you . bank account. thank you. >> gosh , it was lovely to see >> gosh, it was lovely to see though that they did have the time to celebrate pride month there on the front of the building, wasn't it? later a spokeswoman came out of their ivory tower and told our producer wouldn't be producer that they wouldn't be commenting on any of those allegations, put to allegations, which we put to them again. well justin urquhart stewart, a former director at barclays international, are now, of course, a financial expert, joins me now , i believe. justin, joins me now, i believe. justin, thank you very much . there he thank you very much. there he is. well, i mean, fascinating, isn't it? the staff at coutts appear to have no knowledge whatsoever of historical slave trade links. i mean, good grief for a clearly virtue signalling bank there with the pride flag emblazoned all over them. i mean that have as a deep that must have come as a deep shock. >> i don't have any idea at all. but of course coutts isn't a very special bank anymore. it's just part of natwest. they bought it up. it's another brand and they try and make it as a
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rather smart special bank, but it's not really . would they know it's not really. would they know about anything to do with slave trading? it's quite trading? no. it's quite interesting though is quite a lot of the banks have say like barclays and 1 or 2 others actually come from the old quaker background. and of course they have any they wouldn't have had any connection with it diametrically the opposite. but even not the opposite. but even so, not many people in barclays would have understood that or appreciated actually, appreciated it. actually, an awful of british business awful lot of british business inevitably in those days of empire had very close connections with the slave trade and other probably more or less pleasant areas that we wouldn't want to admit to these days. >> no, exactly that. i mean, it was interesting, wasn't it, that none of them appeared to express any kind of view whatsoever as to whether or not nigel farage should allowed bank account should be allowed a bank account there or any view on them potentially. closing potentially. anyway, closing it down. it was down. and i did think it was fascinating, though, that they seemed brief seemed more than happy to brief people bbc in the people like the bbc in the financial times, but not us here at gb news. nigel's latest crusade were, is calling crusade as it were, is calling for the law to be at to for the law to be looked at to try to make sure that big banks
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cannot underwrite complete cloak of anonymity and secrecy to be able to shut down someone's assets and financially non person them just because maybe they don't agree with their political views. would you back that ? that? >> yeah, quite right. they should justify it come out and actually say so the other side of that of course is banks have to be very careful now about money laundering. now, i have to say london's actually very good at laundering after all, say london's actually very good at know laundering after all, say london's actually very good at know exactlyring after all, say london's actually very good at know exactly how after all, say london's actually very good at know exactly how muchill, say london's actually very good at know exactly how much russian we know exactly how much russian money money laundered money has been money laundered because about 60 because we did it about 60 billion is probably in london in various types. but what you'll find, which is i find it's not very amusing, but really rather odd actually , if you've got an odd actually, if you've got an awful lot of money and then carrying out your money laundering operations is relatively straightforward, you try and deposit account try and open a deposit account or a current account and you virtually to put your child virtually have to put your child on deposit with the with the bank.the on deposit with the with the bank. the amount of detail you have through to order have to go through in to order actually account . now, actually open an account. now, the bank, of course, has the
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right , if they regard you the bank, of course, has the right, if they regard you as a risk of some sort, but there should be saying what's the risk ? otherwise , ? why? because otherwise, frankly, they should they would be themselves up to be opening themselves up to action. by nigel and others to sit there and say you're besmirch my reputation just by turning me away. what are you implying that i am? so the banks need to be very careful on this because otherwise sharp lawyers will be going back and having a go at them. yeah sharp lawyers. there's a difference between sharp lawyers, certainly. there's a difference between shawell,vyers, certainly. there's a difference between shawell,vyer:also tainly. there's a difference between shawell,vyer:also the ly. there's a difference between shawell,vyer:also the court of >> well, but also the court of pubuc >> well, but also the court of public opinion, only public opinion, because you only have to the surface on have to scratch the surface on pretty everybody pretty much everybody to find any hypocrisy whatsoever any kind of hypocrisy whatsoever here. just remarkable. the here. it is just remarkable. the second that somebody's virtue signals, sets signals, you know, somebody sets up, vegan good up, for example, a vegan good earth bakery, and it turns earth bakery, and then it turns out they may or may not out that they may or may not have chopped down 135 rare protected trees in own protected trees in their own back gardens way for some back gardens make way for some kind lavish expenditure and kind of lavish expenditure and you end with people that you end up with people that decide want back decide that they want to back extinction they extinction rebellion, but they have take business class have to take a business class plane here and then back again just all in the space of a
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couple of days in to order be able to do that. so you don't have to look very far, do you, to find utter, utter hypocrisy. and indeed the case, of and if indeed it is the case, of course, that cooper as well, coops there with the big rainbow flag all of oh, we're flag and all of this. oh, we're lovely virtuous and we're lovely and virtuous and we're sticking and sticking to the law. and then you look back a bit and you think, oh, gosh, did you have slave? >> yeah, this is all greenwashing to a great extent, isn't try and make sure isn't it, to try and make sure they're to doing the they're seen to be doing the right thing? >> do they actually believe it? do live up to it? you're do they live up to it? you're familiar with those three initials have become initials that have become the fashion of this year, esg, environmental, and environmental, sustainable and governance. companies really governance. are companies really living that i'm living up to that now? i'm pleased now or living up to that now? i'm p|investment now or living up to that now? i'm p|investment firms now or living up to that now? i'm p|investment firms are now or living up to that now? i'm p|investment firms are saying or living up to that now? i'm p|investment firms are saying if 2 investment firms are saying if you do not produce proper environment, sustainable and governance rules and standards, you can measure it, that we won't be investing in you. but having said that, an awful lot of people would just be sitting there saying it's another form of we'll go along of greenwash. we'll go along with frankly, doesn't with it. but frankly, it doesn't really matter. what you'll find, though, actually now a lot though, is actually now a lot more when doubt. and more banks. when in doubt. and
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you there with people not you saw there with people not commenting, say anything commenting, don't say anything at leak it to at all. by all means leak it to the or someone like that . the bbc or someone like that. but if you're going be but if you're going to be actually out public actually going out in public saying find saying so, well, you'll find your will actually end your career will actually end quite quickly. >> absolutely. one >> yeah, absolutely. just one final you, if that's final one with you, if that's all as you know, we all right. as you will know, we are launching we have launched our don't kill cash campaign . our don't kill cash campaign. and look at videos like and when we look at videos like that, casper that, the wonderful joe casper went you see all those went and got you see all those snooty coming from snooty people coming down from their probably their ivory tower, probably pockets laden down with the weight their bank cards. weight of their own bank cards. just thinking about how on earth they can invest other people's money to make themselves more money to make themselves more money and you think, actually, you what? cash should you know what? maybe cash should still shouldn't it? so still be king, shouldn't it? so do back don't kill cash campaign? yeah. can you still need cash? >> you're going to have to have it some form or other. and it in some form or other. and the trouble an awful lot of the trouble is, an awful lot of people of a certain age find it very difficult not cash very difficult not having cash go have to say, several go back. i have to say, several decades ago now to time when decades ago now to the time when we moved from old currency through to decimalisation. those people over 50 at that stage hadnt people over 50 at that stage hadn't got a clue what was going
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on and it was really very difficult. now we're finding a position where if you get rid of cash and people of a certain age aren't used to the technology, don't understand going don't understand what's going on. you're disinfo ing on. and so you're disinfo ing those that's unfair , those people, that's unfair, unfair and really should be stopped. no, no, we need cash. you're still going have to you're still going to have to have what i found so funny have it. what i found so funny was actually last year going in southern had southern italy, they had abandoned coinage of euros abandoned small coinage of euros because weren't and because there weren't any. and your came in sweets, your change came in sweets, would believe? no no. would you believe? no no. >> that's like going back to the dark. i mean, the lovely, lovely sugar infused dark ages, but still the dark ages nonetheless. justin, very much. justin, thank you very much. an absolute always. absolute pleasure as always. justin stewart there, justin urquhart stewart there, the director barclays the former director at barclays , now a financial , and of course, now a financial expert. that address there is gb news .com forward slash cash sign. our campaign on an our petition to make sure that we can continue to have cash as legal tender and regularly accepted in shops everywhere in this country until at least 2050. get the power away from
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the big banks. get the power away from these strong vested interests and quite literally put it back in your pocket. now, we mentioned greenwashing there. get a load of this. this is going be lively because we've going to be lively because we've got a debate between just stop oil and clive senate majority project who have slammed the former's tactics. okay. so we now have what would you call it, green on green fighting , green on green fighting, essentially the eco warriors are at war with each other and hopefully that plays out live on air in a second. tina tech .
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here we go. a veteran eco campaigner has dismissed the tactics used by just stop oil protesters. swampy whose real name is daniel hooper , says name is daniel hooper, says despite the protesters who disrupt traffic or sporting events being brave and passionate, he thinks that real change will come from working with people from different walks of life. it comes as just stop oil disrupted . some of keir oil disrupted. some of keir starmer's speech rallies in kent asking him to reinstate a pledge for £28 billion of annual climate funding . he responded, climate funding. he responded, telling protesters to just stop, i believe that might have actually been another group, to be fair. but there was just stop oil as well that we've seen. of course, at the cricket. et
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cetera. and at the tennis, they've been everywhere. just stop they? well, stop oil, haven't they? well, look, discuss this now is look, to discuss this now is sean from stop oil sean irish from just stop oil and rupert read and professor rupert read from the majority project the climate majority project both of you, very, both of you, thank you very, very much. so i'll go to you first, professor rupert, if that's all right. so am i right in saying that you think that just stop. oil should . just stop? >> well , not really. patrick the >> well, not really. patrick the point that we're making , point that we're making, firstly, in the climate majority project is that the objective that we have is all basically the same , right? most ordinary the same, right? most ordinary people, most real people now recognise quite fully that we have to get off our addiction to oil, that we should stop drilling new oil and that we should transition to an economy which won't destroy our children's futures. there is a disagreement of some degree, of course, about tactics. so what
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we and the climate majority project are here for is for all those people who do not want to engage with the kind of tactics that just stop oil, employ the objective is essentially the same . the question is how are we same. the question is how are we going to get there? and what we encourage people to do is to engagein encourage people to do is to engage in action in their communities, in their workplaces, in their professions , within the law, to move in the right direction in the chronic absence of sufficient leadership from the government . from the government. >> okay. right. so shauna, i'll throw that back over to you. i mean, there was some pretty staunch criticism elsewhere as well . does does it bother you well. does it does it bother you that , you know, people well. does it does it bother you that, you know, people like swampy are. i can only imagine is an icon. don't agree with what you're doing. >> i mean, i have been in a tunnel. thanks to swampy. but that's besides the point. yeah we are we don't talk about the national television stop. no, of course we're not. swampy hasn't actually come out and opposed what? just stop. oil has said that know, that's a
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that is, you know, that's a misrepresentation of what swamp is saying, swampy saying is saying, what swampy is saying and saying. and and what rupert is saying. and they absolutely is they were absolutely correct, is that the majority to be that we need the majority to be on need action that's on side. we need action that's going come with with, you going to come with with, you know, cooperation and, of course, you know, groups like the climate majority, we can offer that to people. but you also the radical also need the radical flank. just oil the wedge that just stop oil is the wedge that bnngs just stop oil is the wedge that brings the conversation into the stratosphere. people would ignore us if we didn't take these actions. >> well, will they? i'm going to throw that over to you then, rupert. is sean the necessary radical flank ? radical flank? >> it's a really interesting question. i think the place to start here is back in 2019 with extinction rebellion , and i extinction rebellion, and i think it's very clear that extinction rebellion really opened up the space. and whatever anyone thinks of extinction rebellion, you can't deny that they really did get these issues into into the pubuc these issues into into the public consciousness in a big way. and that is a very important thing to do . i of important thing to do. i of course, the issue here also rebounds back onto the media. it's a question of what the
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media pays attention to. our view in the climate majority project is that would it be it would be a really good thing if the paid attention to the media paid more attention to the media paid more attention to the slower, more patient the kind of slower, more patient work that people like us are trying to do in communities, in neighbourhoods , in professions, neighbourhoods, in professions, etcetera. so, for example , i'm etcetera. so, for example, i'm talking to you from the border of norfolk and suffolk at a pub which is community owned , which which is community owned, which is socially owned, which is very close to an area of land which is farmed by a group of people together who creating together who are creating resilience against the climate damage. future that is coming. so these kinds of projects are springing up all over the country and we support them in the climate majority project. we actively support them. it's called community climate action. okay, what we need is for this kind of thing to be scaled up and to be supported much more and to be supported much more and would be a good and it would be a really good thing the were to give thing if the media were to give us attention. thing if the media were to give us iif ention. thing if the media were to give us iif enti> if you were to talk about that, i understand we that, i understand that we respect just time pressures. respect just for time pressures. you have now spoken a little bit about that, sean. i mean, he has
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got a anthony, because, got a point, anthony, because, you the only you know, basically the only times like talk times that people like me talk aren't is when aren't you really is when someone's covered you in milk or throwing water balcony and throwing water off a balcony and you know, maybe someone's got very angry in the streets and frankly people you . frankly people hate you. >> well, the rupert did raise an excellent actually. the excellent point, actually. the media is failing us astronomically. you only talk about climate crisis when we about the climate crisis when we throw orange paint or when someone us. if someone throws milk at us. if you brought climate you brought on climate scientists your show , if scientists onto your show, if you to people like rupert you went to people like rupert and, you know, went to these community based places and actually highlighted these , the actually highlighted these, the need just stop could need for just stop oil could disappear overnight if the government it needed to government did what it needed to do ended new and gas do and ended new oil and gas licences, we would not be on the street. unfortunately, action is needed, sean? needed, isn't it, sean? >> campaign , sean. >> it's a campaign, sean. and part a campaign means that part of a campaign means that you bring the public you have to bring the public with dare say that with you. and i dare say that you've managed to alienate it pretty much everybody from the white van. man right through to the kind of middle, upper class person who goes to the opera. sean can you tell me who we've
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convinced est that they will just lie down for an oil balance profits and die because they dislike us that much? >> people are going to >> how many people are going to let their children starve to death don't like death because they don't like what we're doing and a man in an orange. vis got in orange. hi vis got in got in someone's way and now i'm going orange. hi vis got in got in so let)ne's way and now i'm going orange. hi vis got in got in so let my; way and now i'm going orange. hi vis got in got in so let my childrenj now i'm going orange. hi vis got in got in so let my children die,n i'm going orange. hi vis got in got in so let my children die, you1 going to let my children die, you know. one is thinking that know. no one is thinking that that might not like just that you might not like just stop oil. i don't like what we do. it's, you know, it shouldn't be necessary, not be necessary, but it is not making people think, yeah, you know what? let children know what? i'll let my children die. have all die. let the oil barons have all their profits just to spite them. no one's saying that they might us, but they want might not like us, but they want the thing. might not like us, but they want the okay, thing. might not like us, but they want the okay, i'll1g. might not like us, but they want the okay, i'll throw it over to you. >> rupert. hey some people. some people say. you know people might just say. you know what, if you had a bit what, rupert? if you had a bit of bottle about you, you wouldn't young, wouldn't be sending young, impressionable wouldn't be sending young, impresdarenble wouldn't be sending young, impresdare i le wouldn't be sending young, impresdare i say it, children cases, dare i say it, children to go and do the dirty work of the climate agenda. you know, put money where your mouth put your money where your mouth is. whether you do is. i don't know whether you do have criminal you have a criminal record. you don't disclose it. why don't have to disclose it. why don't have to disclose it. why don't you get a criminal record for your cause? come on. >> i was in extinction
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>> so, look, i was in extinction rebellion before, did rebellion before, and i did undertake criminal damage, of which i'm very proud for the sake of throwing the spotlight out onto the climate change deniers of the global warming policy foundation. but now i've changed tack. and what we're trying to do in the climate majority project is to appeal to all the people who don't want to undertake the kind of things that just stop oil do, but who are concerned, as sean absolutely rightly says, that our children's lives are now on the line. we have the hottest day in history on tuesday. we had the second hottest day in history. on monday, everyone can see is see that the climate is changing, that it is damaging us and damaging our future. it's going to get worse for a long time so what is time to come. so what is absolutely critical is that everyone who cares about this issue majority do care issue and a majority do care that in one way or another you get involved. i'd urge get involved. so i'd urge people, example , to go to people, for example, to go to climate majority project .com and you can start to get involved there. >> all right . okay. look, i'm >> all right. okay. look, i'm just going to finish, sean, if
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that's all right. i always ask, just stop all this and i get a variety of different answers. would you children into would you bring children into the world, sean, or do you think that's a bad thing right now? >> well, i've tried for a long time get boyfriend time to get my boyfriend pregnant, but haven't succeeded yet. you think people yet. do you think that people should reproduced , sean should be reproduced, sean i don't think that's a decision for me to make. i can either get pregnant, nor do i intend to get anyone else pregnant. so that would be a decision that would be among those people to make that that i speak that is the thing that i speak to lot people for just that is the thing that i speak to lot people forjust stop to a lot of people for just stop all about. >> 5 all about. >> a few of them say, >> and quite a few of them say, look, we shouldn't be we shouldn't having any more kids. >> i think there's possibility of hope. i think people need to take on climate take action on the climate crisis. they can join us and get a criminal record or they can go plant fruit with rupert. plant some fruit with rupert. but they need to do something. >> okay. and luck with your >> okay. and good luck with your boyfriend, the way. >> okay. and good luck with your boy right. the way. >> okay. and good luck with your boy right. okay.e way. >> okay. and good luck with your boy right. okay. let's. >> okay. and good luck with your boy right. okay. let's sean irish >> right. okay. let's sean irish there from just stop oil and professor read from the professor rupert read from the climate good climate majority project good stuff. right. stuff. i enjoyed that. right. okay. tusk, the okay. now donald tusk, the former eu president once
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okay. now donald tusk, the formthatj president once okay. now donald tusk, the form that brexiteers once okay. now donald tusk, the form that brexiteers had once said that brexiteers had a special hell, appears special place in hell, appears to have adopted the famous brexit take brexit line of take back control, former control, or the former former bureaucrat decided that bureaucrat has now decided that he participating in a he does fancy participating in a democratic election as he attempts become poland's next attempts to become poland's next prime said prime minister. tusk has said that regain control that poles must regain control over country and its over their country and its borders, whilst also warning of the dangers of failing to stop arrivals from islamic countries. i'm starting to think that his anger at brexit was simply fuelled by the fear of losing his cushy job. tusk this is hypocrisy at its finest , but i hypocrisy at its finest, but i am pleased to say that you are now a fully fledged brexiteer . now a fully fledged brexiteer. jacob rees—mogg joins me now. jacob rees—mogg joins me now. jacob thank you. have you ever stolen an enemy slogan? >> no. i think he's a hill exeter, isn't he brexiteer? >> well, he would be. yes, of course he would. but it's nice to see that the common sense approach is rubbing off on him. >> finally, there is more joy in heaven over the one sinner who repenteth than the 99 who are not in need of repentance. i think this is marvellous and i hope that ursula von der leyen,
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when she goes back germany, when she goes back to germany, will that germany will suddenly say that germany should leave too. and if could should leave too. and if i could remember the names of of the remember the names of any of the other commissioners, them. >> f what's coming up >> all right, what's coming up on your show? >> all right, what's coming up on we'rehow? >> all right, what's coming up on we're going be talking >> we're going to be talking about housing. why do we don't have enough houses? the have enough houses? why the rental market is so difficult and if there's a way to make this better and we're also back to is it really to the banks, is it really a free speech issue? is it politicians who can't get accounts? going on? why accounts? what's going on? why is difficult? and how much is it so difficult? and how much are politicians to blame is it so difficult? and how much are the politicians to blame is it so difficult? and how much are the laws»liticians to blame is it so difficult? and how much are the laws we've1s to blame is it so difficult? and how much are the laws we've passed,|me is it so difficult? and how much are the laws we've passed, which for the laws we've passed, which 0 eu laws in the first 0 were eu laws in the first place? there go, jacob. place? oh, there we go, jacob. >> be box office as ever. >> it'll be box office as ever. thank very much. make sure thank you very much. make sure you because jacob you stay tuned because jacob rees—mogg nation is rees—mogg state of the nation is coming your way. >> evening alex deakin and >> evening i'm alex deakin and this your latest weather this is your latest weather update the office for update from the met office for gb pretty warm and sunny gb news. pretty warm and sunny for tomorrow for the vast majority, tomorrow will bit of a damp start will be a bit of a damp start across the and gusty too across the north and gusty too in the north—west. thanks to this area of low pressure it's been and windy been bringing wet and windy weather for most of day weather for most of the day across northern ireland and now pushing further in pushing further and further in across bursts of rain on this heavy bursts of rain on this weather fronts gusty winds,
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weather fronts and gusty winds, too, western scotland. the too, in western scotland. the east of northern ireland, and usually the usually windy here for the time of blustery and of year, staying blustery and pretty across most of pretty wet across most of scotland northern ireland scotland and northern ireland through few showers through the night. a few showers for england, for north—west england, north and but of and west wales, but most of england wales just dry and england and wales just dry and plenty of clear skies across the south east. quite a warm south and the east. quite a warm night, warmer than last night, but not as warm as it will be on friday and into saturday. friday night and into saturday. before though, before we get there, though, let's through friday, which let's get through friday, which does and damp across does start dull and damp across the scotland, the central belt of scotland, much northern ireland. that the central belt of scotland, muc does\iorthern ireland. that the central belt of scotland, muc does pullern ireland. that the central belt of scotland, muc does pull away,eland. that the central belt of scotland, muc does pull away, though,|at the central belt of scotland, muc does pull away, though, to rain does pull away, though, to the afternoon may the north. the afternoon may spark over spark some thunderstorms over parts scotland and parts of western scotland and the of ireland, in the west of northern ireland, in particular, lively ones, particular, some lively ones, too. for many places , though, too. for many places, though, it's a dry fine day tomorrow. lots of pretty hot sunshine actually over the midlands, south southern and south wales, southern and eastern in eastern england. temperatures in the close 30 the east could get close to 30 celsius, quite humid feel as well. further thunderstorms possible in west of northern possible in the west of northern ireland during friday evening and a balmy friday evening and a difficult one for sleeping, perhaps as well, with temperatures holding up in the mid even high teens in places.
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so quite a humid feel to start the weekend and we are watching out for some thunderstorms breaking out during the day. initially we'll start with a lot of cloud and some showers over wales and southwest england, but they'll move northwards through northern the midlands northern ireland, the midlands into scotland northern ireland, the midlands into then scotland northern ireland, the midlands into then eastern scotland northern ireland, the midlands into then eastern england.i and then into eastern england. some thunderstorms are some big thunderstorms are likely hail, lightning likely lots of hail, lightning and gusty winds and torrential rain . it could cause some rain. it could cause some disruption during saturday triggered by the heat and humidity warm humidity. another warm and sticky fresher air will sticky one, but fresher air will arrive from the west for all of us sunday. goodbye .
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next ulez gb news the top story . ulez gb news the top story. >> well, we understand cordons remain in place around buckingham palace tonight after a man handcuffed himself to the main gates earlier on this evening , scotland yard said the evening, scotland yard said the man began threatening to harm 7:77 . the evening, scotland yard said the man began threatening to harm himself as officers approached himself as officers approached him. the situation is ongoing . him. the situation is ongoing . him. the situation is ongoing. officers have been negotiating him. the situation is ongoing. officers have been negotiating with the man is reported to have with the man is reported to have sustained a number of sustained a number of self—inflicted slash injuries. self—inflicted slash injuries. police say they're working to police say they're working to bnng police say they're working to bring the situation to a close bnng police say they're working to bring the situation to a as quickly as possible . well, as quickly as possible. well, the prime minister said today his thoughts are with the family of an eight year old girl who died after a land rover crashed into her primary school in south—west london. police were
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