driving . detective dangerous driving. detective chief superintendent claire keelan says the incident is not being treated as terror related i >> -- >> and officers, along with colleagues from other emergency services, provide first aid to a number of people who had been injured . very sadly, one of the injured. very sadly, one of the children, an eight year old girl, died at the scene . our girl, died at the scene. our thoughts are with her family at this incredibly difficult time . this incredibly difficult time. the driver of a car, a woman agedin the driver of a car, a woman aged in her 40, stopped at the scene and has since been arrested for causing death by dangerous driving and remains in police custody . police custody. >> the rmt union has announced a strike on the london underground its members will stop work from the 23rd to the 28th of july, though services will run on the 24th. they're walking out in a continuing dispute over pensions and working conditions. continuing dispute over pensions and working conditions . the and working conditions. the government says it's going to work towards handing over material requested by the covid inquiry by next week. it's after

the cabinet office lost its legal challenge over boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages . lawyers for the messages. lawyers for the government had argued the material would be irrelevant . material would be irrelevant. however, the high court has ruled the inquiry must be given full access as and the government's launched a bid to take its rwanda deportation policy to the supreme court . policy to the supreme court. last week, the court of appeal overturned and an earlier high court ruling which found rwanda could be considered a safe third country. it comes as the house of lords dealt a blow to the government, rejecting its illegal migration bill. mps now having to consider a series of amendments . and lastly, the new amendments. and lastly, the new onune amendments. and lastly, the new online conversation platform threads, which is built by the owners of instagram, has received a cease and desist letter from twitter. less than 24 hours after it launched. according to media reports tonight, elon musk's company accuses meta of hiring dozens of former twitter employees who have access to trade secrets and

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including me to talk about our special relationship paul lewis. >> tn- w n i have my >> we do, but i think i have my ihave >> we do, but i think i have my i have people watching that i don't want know us. don't want to know about us. >> i should just >> okay. and maybe i should just get in a blanket apology now for all the swearing get all the swearing and let's get it the just get out it out of the way. just get out apologising time, nick. apologising all the time, nick. let's out of the way at the let's get out of the way at the start. right. we a start. all right. so we have a quick front pages. quick look at the front pages. it's the show is about. so it's what the show is about. so the mail horror at end the daily mail has horror at end of tea party. that's of term tea party. that's the tragic of the tragic crash, of course, the i home office paints over mickey mouse for at mouse mural for children at asylum very asylum centre. very strange story cover story we're going to cover in a minute. the guardian court tells ministers johnson ministers to give johnson messages inquiry. that's the messages to inquiry. that's the rishi whatsapps the rishi sunak whatsapps the financial stock financial times. global stock markets tumble after us borrowing costs hit 16 year high. the metro has horror at school tea party that tragic story again. and the daily star . we've been eating our weetabix all wrong. hard hitting stuff from the daily star. and those were the front pages of . so paul were the front pages of. so paul , let's start with the daily mail. and that terrible story.

>> yeah . as you've already said, >> yeah. as you've already said, horror and a term tea party, an eight year old girl has sadly died and there are ten left in hospital. there's not much to say about this. the lady's been arrested. it's horrific . arrested. it's just horrific. our thoughts and prayers go to the families of everyone involved. terrible, terrible story. >> don't know what else to say about it, to be honest, nick. >> no, there is much more to say. i had a friend die when i was eight and it affects the whole school. it affects the whole school. it affects the whole community. don't whole community. you don't really ever get over it. absolutely obviously, absolutely tragic. so obviously, our condolences to everyone involved and it's an ongoing case. can't really say too case. so we can't really say too much it. maybe let's much about it. so maybe let's move one at the move on and do this one at the top the page, which is kind top of the page, which is kind of person who was born male, really baby. really breastfeed a baby. what is about? is that about? >> louis well, it's an interesting it interesting story because it it depends on land usage. and depends a lot on land usage. and that's what these issues are . i that's what these issues are. i mean, what do they mean by breastfeed? exactly? what do they mean by a born male ? what they mean by a born male? what do they mean by being born ? what do they mean by being born? what do they mean by being born? what do they mean by being born? what do they mean by a person? what do they mean by a person? what do you call a person? what do

you call a baby ? you call a baby? >> it sent you into an existential sort of spin spiral is that, you know, you can't just answer a question like this. >> i think the answer could be yes as well. >> i think the answer could be yesanybody could place a baby >> anybody could place a baby upon their teat , right. and upon their teat, right. and simulate feeding. >> yeah. that baby would get nothing from it. and i'd worry what the person having their teat suckled was getting from it. >> yes. and i it.— >> yes. and i was it. >> yes. and i was worried you were about to simulate yourself, that your hand was placed strangely. come on, louis. no, but. >> but first of all, you're presuming a baby. this is a baby. how many times have our loved ones called us babies ? loved ones called us babies? maybe we've called babies . maybe we've been called babies. >> oh, you think it's just a term of de—man for a disturbed of endearment? he wants to be breastfed. yeah >> i don't want to rule out you breastfeeding me, right? >> it could happen. >> it could happen. >> going to rule >> you guys are going to rule that out. >> anything for, like, >> you'll do anything for, like, twitter we've twitter followers is what we've established. twitter followers is what we've established that's the next stage. >> and it could be you know, breastfeed. a lot can be gained from being on a person breast, male or female. clearly

>> i think this comes from that weird viral story about the man who was claimed to be a mother and trying breastfeed . and was trying to breastfeed. and very, very and it was all very, very strange. that's where that strange. and that's where that comes from, although actually it's policy it's also official policy at the bank of england now. >> and they all follow >> yes. and they all follow stonewall. it's mad. it's absolutely right absolutely mad. but you're right . what is anything now. . what is what is anything now. yeah. no, no . a man can't yeah. no, no. a man can't breastfeed a human baby and deliver any nutrients for and for the people out there. >> i say it's for debate . >> i say it's up for debate. >> i say it's up for debate. >> okay. that's good balance. good yeah. all right. that's what we're here for. let's move on and do the guardian now, louis, whatsapp louis, they've got this whatsapp message it's another one. this >> yeah, it's another one. this is one of the ones that got me into trouble before boris johnson's whatsapp must be must be the covid inquiry be handed to the covid inquiry in rishi sunak and in below for rishi sunak and it's a blow for rishi sunak rishi sunak because is there are white chinook which that was how biden said it. sorry is that joe biden? >> yeah. >> yeah. because. >> yeah. because. because >> yeah. because. because >> because he did it better than biden. you didn't do well, but you not better. you did better, not better. >> actually worse >> i'm actually worse because i know pronounce name.

know how to pronounce his name. that living in this that means i'm living in this country. i was in america, country. if i was in america, i'd happier. probably i'd be happier. probably richer, maybe. i wouldn't i wouldn't maybe. and i wouldn't i wouldn't pronounce his properly . pronounce his name properly. like there's a americans like i say, there's a americans don't care about britain. that's why we can't pronounce your prime minister's name. why we can't pronounce your prirgood nister's name. why we can't pronounce your prirgood point.; name. sorry >> good point. anyway, sorry about fault. >> it's about story. is >> it's about the story. is that. that he doesn't to that. is that he doesn't want to give information because give up the information because it's because they said the what you call the whatsapp messages were unambiguously irrelevant , were unambiguously irrelevant, which is nice of them to say that it's not an ambiguously irrelevant, but the fact at the end of the day is that is that this is a covid inquiry and everyone knows where i stand on this thing. it was a horrible time. but the fact is that boris johnson made a decision which was to go against his own judgement and he instituted a lockdown. yeah. and then he violates his own lockdown. yeah. so he needs. he should be punished. yeah >> well, the funny thing is, though. louis. boris and we'll get on to you. paul. is that bofis get on to you. paul. is that boris must know there's something these messages

something bad in these messages because he's desperate for them something bad in these messages becau released. asperate for them something bad in these messages becau released. what te for them something bad in these messages becau released. what te fc he 1em something bad in these messages becau released. what te fc he seen to be released. what has he seen in said to him, in these? has sunak said to him, kill all, you kill them. kill them all, you know, he's like, i think know, because he's like, i think it's very important they they get because got get the message because he's got nothing all nothing to lose. we've seen all his worst stuff already, but he's them these messages. >> this this wonderful. >> this is this is wonderful. from boris's perspective, he doesn't boris say crazy expects boris to say crazy things. wait to see things. i can't wait to see boris's whatsapp messages. it's going amazing, it? going to be amazing, isn't it? just his just sort of photographs of his wife and jokes about smelly lefties and maybe some stuff about lockdown and it's going to be fantastic. we all know that if any of our whatsapp messages were to be released. yeah there would be no winners. >> there be no winners. >> there would be no winners. people see inappropriate people would see inappropriate and unnatural of meat in my and unnatural uses of meat in my thing . thing. >> just think about the things you say in public. louis on national tv. oh, my god. we can only imagine. >> imagine the whatsapp message. >> imagine the whatsapp message. >> imagine the whatsapp message. >> i just point >> and can i just point something is that something out? it is that i forgot. what i was going to say is that is that is that is that . is that boris johnson a lot of people believe that boris johnson knew that the covid was

very dangerous and that violating the lockdown was putting people in a dangerous situation . an i don't believe situation. an i don't believe that. but so many people actually believe that he's so arrogant and he thought, you know what, i don't care if people die. no i don't believe that. >> no, don't believe that. but >> no, i don't believe that. but i do think it's a shame that all these come out, the these messages come out, the lockdown and it lockdown files and so on, and it never changes people's never really changes people's views still views of lockdown. people still say, oh, we should have locked down so worried down earlier. so i'm worried that just the same. down earlier. so i'm worried that will just the same. down earlier. so i'm worried that will jit;t the same. down earlier. so i'm worried that will jit to the same. down earlier. so i'm worried that will jit to take; same. down earlier. so i'm worried that will jit to take out�*ne. boris will use it to take out sunak.the boris will use it to take out sunak. the inquiry will use it to have go at more tories and to have a go at more tories and nothing will really out. nothing will really come out. nothing change nothing will really change and they just stick this they will all just stick to this idea great, idea that lockdowns were great, which were terrible. which i say they were terrible. i said that from the start. >> so this is going to >> so this is not going to change view all. change anyone's view at all. >> well, with that, >> all right. well, with that, let's look at the i. let's move on and look at the i. >> paul yeah, home office paints over for over mickey mouse mural for children in muriel yeah that's one been painted children in muriel yeah that's one she's been painted children in muriel yeah that's one she's not been painted children in muriel yeah that's one she's not been janymore. over she's not welcome anymore. mickey mural mickey mouse. muriel mural for children at asylum centre now let me just what's happened is the home office has confirmed that murals of cartoon character

was painted on the walls of asylum centres in kent . they asylum centres in kent. they were instructed by robert jenrick to be painted over. now essentially what the government and robert jenrick have said here is that they didn't want these places to be welcoming. we don't asylum centres to be don't want asylum centres to be welcoming for people going in there. the difference here and there. the difference here and the thing that's very cynical for me, particularly from from the left, is that children are involved and of course i don't think anybody truly wants children to feel sad and unhappy wherever they are. so if this is unaccompanied children going into a terrified for their lives , worried and scared going into an asylum centre, i'm not sure that it needed to be painted over on that basis alone. however . for albanian 25 over on that basis alone. however. for albanian 25 year olds that are pretending to be children. >> right, fair enough. well, the thing is, paul, if they wanted to put off people coming over, which apparently was the intention, why didn't they just post our nhs statistics or a big mural much it costs to mural of how much it costs to rent in london? area it

rent in london? in my area it just says two k per month and then they all just go back across start paddling the across on the start paddling the other think or other way. what do you think or say schaffer lives here? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that could work. >> yeah, that could work. >> yeah, that could work. >> kept a lot of people away. why badmouthing myself? why am i badmouthing myself? that nick, why am i badmouthing myself? tha'so nick, why am i badmouthing myself? tha'so nice. nick, why am i badmouthing myself? tha'so nice. i nick, why am i badmouthing myself? tha'so nice. i think nick, why am i badmouthing myself? tha'so nice. i think you nick, why am i badmouthing myself? tha'so nice. i think you know, i'm so nice. i think you know what? unfortunately, with children , you've got to be nice children, you've got to be nice to kids. if you don't want to kids. even if you don't want them here. and it's like, what? i had pretend that i was nice i had to pretend that i was nice to my own even though i to my own kids, even though i wasn't them around. >> p- w— around. >> thing. good thing >> right. good thing. good thing they won't find out. yeah you're >> right. good thing. good thing thejlike n't find out. yeah you're >> right. good thing. good thing thejlike saying out. yeah you're >> right. good thing. good thing thejlike saying itut. yeah you're >> right. good thing. good thing thejlike saying it on yeah you're >> right. good thing. good thing thejlike saying it on national're not like saying it on national tv or. >> unseemly. it's unseemly >> it's unseemly. it's unseemly to me. >> it's unseemly. it's unseemly to mt. a bit own goal, though. >> it is a bit own goal, though. really for me are, really these things for me are, you the in the optics you know, in the in the optics of politic where are of politic where things are quite of politic where things are quhe and quite straightforward and sometimes make things sometimes you can make things look are. this look better than they are. this is for me that they is one thing for me that they could have avoided doing. >> yeah, he's being seen as a heartless villain as opposed to, >> yeah, he's being seen as a hea|know,lillain as opposed to, >> yeah, he's being seen as a hea|know, someone opposed to, >> yeah, he's being seen as a hea|know, someone with sed to, you know, someone with a practical let's paint practical solution. let's paint over anyway, let's have over all joy. anyway, let's have a daily star. a quick look at the daily star. lewis oh , big the lewis oh, the big news, the daily star, is becoming daily star, which is becoming more and more of my favourite newspaper and the headline is we've weetabix we've been eating our weetabix

all . all wrong. >> four fs revealed jaw dropping etiquette. faux pas faux pas . my etiquette. faux pas faux pas. my son. my son did a dna test and he found out that i was his faux pas whoa, that's good . pas whoa, that's good. >> a proper joke from lewis schaffer. old fashioned skills . schaffer. old fashioned skills. broadway borscht belt, schaffer. old fashioned skills. broadway borscht belt , whatever broadway borscht belt, whatever it's called. >> so pleased with myself . and >> so pleased with myself. and they say no to jokes . but. but they say no to jokes. but. but it says they actually the daily star uses the term etiquette faux pas. and i can't believe that anybody who reads the daily star can understand that. yeah >> so it's all about we've been eating our weetabix wrong. yeah. asked a couple of people and they they said we put the milk in completely perverse in first. completely perverse sick obviously. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> wait, isn't it's weird. >> wait, isn't it. it's weird. you put in the weetabix see. you put in the weetabix to see. not eats this not that anyone eats this rubbish put the rubbish but you put in the adults eat but adults don't eat this but you put the weetabix you have to put in the weetabix you have to pour milk on and then know pour the milk on and then know how, is and how how, what the ratio is and how much going go soft. much it's going to go soft. >> you're not putting much it's going to go soft. >> ayou're not putting much it's going to go soft. >> a tank. not putting much it's going to go soft. >> a tank. you putting much it's going to go soft. >> a tank. you don't,g much it's going to go soft. >> a tank. you don't, you fish into a tank. you don't, you know, you fill tank up know, like you fill the tank up with water put the fish in. with water and put the fish in. right. | with water and put the fish in. right. i mean, right. this is this is i mean, the biggest thing for me here is

a great point. i think it's one of best points i've on of the best points i've made on this is that susan boyle this show is that susan boyle said that's i want. said little. that's what i want. oh,can we see i don't know if >> can we see i don't know if our viewers at home can see that that's that's not either. that's me. that's not either. can we see the picture then? cut to i'm susan boyle up there. >> that picture. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> amazing. >> it's amazing. >> it's amazing. >> looks like >> photoshop that looks like jeremy bad thing. the bad about weetabix >> the bad thing about weetabix is dehydrated. is it's basically dehydrated. diabetes you and that's what diabetes if you and that's what iused diabetes if you and that's what i used to say the adverts. if i used to say on the adverts. if you to get diabetes and you want to get diabetes and mixing say you're mixing and if, let's say you're using milk, which using full fat milk, which probably people aren't, and probably most people aren't, and you're it with you're mixing it with carbohydrates , it's basically carbohydrates, it's basically the randall cycle. some of the people might understand this. the cycle kicks in and the randall cycle kicks in and your body can only digest either your body can only digest either your carbohydrates or it your carbohydrates or or it digests fat, fat, fat . and so digests fat, fat, fat. and so you either pass out the other end raw milk or raw weetabix. no, it just sits there waiting to be digested and it does, it basically does the carbohydrates first. >> yeah, it's not good. we just just we got to go to the break.

but on this show, we all eat steak for breakfast, lunch and dinner. i just want to say. and that's how we're on tv and smashing life. all right. that was you know, was a fun section. you know, apart some story. apart from some of the story. that's for one. that's all for part one. but coming up,

listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. >> welcome back to headliners . >> welcome back to headliners. i'm nick dixon, still here with mr paul cox and dr. louis von schaffer . as we have just schaffer. as we have just decided to call him. let's get

straight into it with the telegraph . and andrew neil has telegraph. and andrew neil has attacked his former employer , gb attacked his former employer, gb news. complaint news. ironically, his complaint is about impartiality. paul you see the irony? >> yes . thank see the irony? >> yes. thank you. see the irony? >> yes . thank you. politicians, >> yes. thank you. politicians, politics should not be allowed to present politics. all news programmes as they do on gb news. according to andrew neil, the channel's former chairman. so we should first of all thank andrew for forming help, forming the channel and maybe thank him for leaving. i'll leave that with i'll leave that with everybody else. >> you giveth and you taketh everybody else. >> yo pauleth and you taketh everybody else. >> yo pauleth sol you taketh everybody else. >> yo pauleth so what? aketh away. paul so, so what? >> quite the dilemma . quite the >> quite the dilemma. quite the dilemma really, because i'm sure there are ofcom rules. i mean there are ofcom rules. i mean the thing about ofcom rules is you can change them. they were changed throughout the pandemic, you we you see. so that, so that we could have all sorts of things done and broadcast to us and told to us about covid told to us about the covid pandemic. so it's not as if these aren't flexible. these rules aren't flexible. they whole, pretty they are, on the whole, pretty much leaving gb news alone. and i think that should that i think that should be that should valid point to start should be a valid point to start with. but however , you know , gb with. but however, you know, gb news is punk . i can't think of

news is punk. i can't think of another word that describes it better. gb news is a bit like millwall, right? people don't like us, but we care, like us, but we don't care, right? the idea that we are right? the idea is that we are giving voices to people that actually quite a few people would like to hear from, but a very minority we don't very small minority we don't want to hear from and i should say loads of people love us across small across the country, but a small sort media don't like us. >> that's where we're different from point that >> that's where we're different from the point that >> that's where we're different fromthe good point that >> that's where we're different fromthe good point, point that >> that's where we're different fromthe good point, poirthisat >> that's where we're different fromthe good point, poirthis is out. the good point, and this is quite louis, quite strange actually, louis, because here and because a few things here and people i mentioned people say i mentioned ofcom too much, but unfortunately this story ofcom. firstly story is about ofcom. so firstly he's andrew saying we he's andrew doyle saying we don't taking he's andrew doyle saying we don't jobs. taking he's andrew doyle saying we don't jobs. but taking he's andrew doyle saying we don't jobs. but michael|king he's andrew doyle saying we don't jobs. but michael portillo these jobs. but michael portillo was show for was on his show this week for years and was years and years and was excellent and he's now on gb news. couple things. news. another couple of things. farage and mog are doing incredibly won incredibly farage just won an award. the tric award for best news presenter. they're news presenter. so they're actually smashing it. and then he seem to be all he says they seem to be all conservative. but would a labour mp would have mp do it? i'm sure we would have them if they would. and then lastly, just lastly, he says, i'm just surprised ofcom allows surprised that what ofcom allows the channel to get away with and there you louis but there he means you louis but that's, one that's, that's, that's the one that's, that's, that's the one that's, that's the one. sorry to what do

you think i think think you're right. >> like it's like, well >> it's like it's like, well first of all, all journalists are failed politicians and they're failed. most of them are failed before they even start being politicians. it's like a politician is of politician just is sort of delayed in getting it. and what they're is they're saying they're saying is they're saying is if there a channel where is if there was a channel where there were failed labour politicians , they would not politicians, they would not complain. why can't we have failed tory politicians failed is fine. >> i mean, you know, sirjacob rees—mogg has been made an night. i mean, is he or whatever it is at the end of the day, at the end of the day , at the end the end of the day, at the end of the day, business is it of the day, who's business is it anyway ? anyway? >> t” w- anyway? >> if it's known that >> if people if it's known that that someone is a is a is a politician and it's recorded that they're politicians. if we want to have them on or they want to have them on or they want to have them on or they want to have them on, that's fine. if people want to watch them, that's fine. why should we have government us, have the government telling us, yeah, no. >> does have point about >> does he have a point about when it's a politician, a conservative politician

interviewing a conservative minister some cases? is minister in some cases? is that a impartiality? a problem with impartiality? >> yeah , they're almost it >> paul yeah, they're almost it could be argued there almost certainly is. it's, you know, where is where would be the partiality there? not that all tory mps agree with tory mps. no.the tory mps agree with tory mps. no. the point i would make just echoes louis was echoes actually, what louis was saying that there is there's saying is that there is there's no smoke and mirrors here. they know that. let's let's call it as it is. rees—mogg we know that he's a tory mp . that's that's he's a tory mp. that's that's not a secret. and it would be weird if his views weren't conservative leaning in. that would be odd. so that's not a secret either. and he's talking about the things that matter to him. so none of those things are a secret either. there isn't as if anybody's trying to, you know, secretly pull the wool oven know, secretly pull the wool over, you know, on the on the impartial question, as if we didn't all know emily maitlis impartial question, as if we didn't for know emily maitlis impartial question, as if we didn't for years emily maitlis impartial question, as if we didn't for years on|ily maitlis impartial question, as if we didn't for years on that. aitlis views for years on that. >> it was so obvious what her views she quit and it views were then she quit and it became she knew. became even more clear she knew. she thought always knew she thought what we always knew she did. >> because impartiality is impossible. yes. for them. impossible journalists be

impossible for journalists to be impartial. possible impartial. it's possible for a tv to be impartial and tv station to be impartial and it's sort of a that's the problem with the problem is the bbc is the state broadcaster. the state propaganda network. they're pretending like they're not that that they are impartial. this whole concept of balance is ridiculous. is that us, you mean? >> i kind of agree. we should have the american system. everyone just says what they want. clear that it's want. it's clear that it's opinion. anyway, luck, opinion. anyway, you're in luck, louis, the louis, because he also says the bbc doesn't have money to do bbc doesn't have the money to do much and is trouble. much anymore and is in trouble. so the thing i'll say to so the only thing i'll say to just is that i don't agree just end is that i don't agree with but if a tory with andrew neil, but if a tory politician job, might politician takes my job, i might change mind because there are change my mind because there are a them the now a lot of them on the channel now let's do the let's move on and do the guardian. keir starmer says guardian. and keir starmer says he's laser focus on poverty. now. that now. when louis says that he just shining a bright just means he's shining a bright light at a homeless person. but paul light at a homeless person. but paul, think this paul, what do you think of this one? though it one? louis and even though it was just i don't was your story, just i don't know. >> i think it's always relevant . doesn't the . it doesn't matter what the story it's going to. story is or who it's going to. labour were on labour government were focus on ending as strongly ending poverty just as strongly as tony blair's 1997

administrator, ian as tony blair's1997 administrator, ian keir starmer has said. now for me, this is classic fnaf and trivia that politics happens, say at this point, we're on the precipice of becoming leaders, right? one thing we should ask ourselves at this point, was somebody this point, and i was somebody who for tony blair who voted for tony blair in 1997, first i ever 1997, the first person i ever voted for. was pleased that voted for. i was pleased that tony and the party tony blair and the labour party were point in time. were in at that point in time. in two thousand and seven, we were 2% higher in terms of child poverty than we are today . poverty than we are today. statistically. i'll look this up just before we come on air. so when labour left government or towards the end of their their fantastic time in government, child poverty was higher than it is now, only by a couple of percentage points. but you'd think, and we all say this all the time, there's been 13 years of pretty disastrous government. nobody really mentions what's happenedin nobody really mentions what's happened in those 13 times, those 13 there is lots of those 13 years. there is lots of context that story. however, context to that story. however, i it's quite stark that i think it's quite stark that actually tony blair delivered nothing in terms of child

poverty. now, i'm not i didn't look at the stats at where it was, but we are 2. we are 2% lower right now. and i'm sure the has something do the pandemic has something to do with ignore the with that. but we ignore the pandemic every time we talk about the tories. right now about the tories. so right now we are off than we were we are better off than we were at end the year. at the end of the year. >> okay, interesting. thing >> okay, interesting. one thing that i thought was a bit funny here they why is here is that they said, why is none your five mission bullet none of your five mission bullet points? why doesn't that include poverty? goes, poverty? and then you just goes, oh, well, that's the foundation on all so you've oh, well, that's the foundation on that's all so you've oh, well, that's the foundation on that's alridiculousou've oh, well, that's the foundation on that's alridiculous wayz got that's like a ridiculous way to get around it. and the other thing, louis and i don't know if this point about thing, louis and i don't know if this of point about thing, louis and i don't know if this of the point about thing, louis and i don't know if this of the foundationt sort of laying the foundation before you get elected, he before you get elected, but he said his excuses in said that he got his excuses in early and said that are inheriting really really, inheriting a really bad, really, really bad economy. so he got that well. that in as well. >> you think he's >> what do you think he's saying? no money. saying? there's no money. there's it there's no money to do it because basically both administrations. because basically both administiterm s. because basically both administiterm thing have the long term thing have just been away, away been giving away, giving away money. say let money. let's just say this. let me i don't know about me say this. i don't know about tony and poverty. i know tony blair and poverty. i know there are lots people out there are lots of people out there are lots of people out there who love tony blair and they did. and maybe they love what he did. and maybe people the end people were poor at the end of the terms of giving the day. but in terms of giving young violin, poor kids,

young kids violin, poor kids, violin lessons and opening up playgrounds and schools. tony blair totally beloved . okay. blair was totally beloved. okay. i don't think that's the case. i think socialism is the quickest path to poverty . so the fact path to poverty. so the fact that he's he's laser focussed on poverty. starmer by bringing in socialists, do you think he means creating it? >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> i mean , i'm convinced >> i mean, i'm not convinced that blair advocate that tony blair was an advocate for socialism. he was just like tory really? >> well, it depends. we could do a debate on that and says a long debate on that and says it euro communism . other it was euro communism. other people it was sort of post people say it was sort of post thatcherism. people say it was sort of post thataierism. people say it was sort of post thataierislof stealth left wing was a sort of stealth left wing revolution. we could talk a lot about that, yeah, one thing revolution. we could talk a lot atclear,iat, yeah, one thing revolution. we could talk a lot atclear, starmer'eah, one thing revolution. we could talk a lot atclear, starmer says one thing revolution. we could talk a lot atclear, starmer says he'sthing is clear, starmer says he's laser focus ending poverty laser focus on ending poverty just tony but didn't just like tony blair, but didn't actually did it? i actually end. did it? i did. i did it's still did notice that it's still ongoing. let's quick look ongoing. let's have a quick look at guardian . and of at the guardian. and the boss of shell cutting fossil shell has said cutting fossil fuels fuels. say it is fuels fuels. i can say it is dangerous. good hear an dangerous. it's good to hear an objective on issue. objective take on this issue. >> louis shell well, >> louis shell said. well, climate campaigners have condemned cynical suggestions by the boss of the energy company shell that cutting the world's oil and gas production would be dangerous irresponsible and dangerous and irresponsible and it let's face it, it is

it is. let's face it, it is cynical. it's like having ronald mcdonald saying that that stopping eating hamburgers would be and it would be. be dangerous and it would be. and it would be dangerous. i mean , it's good. it would be mean, it's good. it would be dangerous because . because dangerous because. because hamburgers are great. not the bun.do hamburgers are great. not the bun. do not eat the bun. just eat the meat. eat it. go to triple, triple . maybe i'm giving triple, triple. maybe i'm giving an advertisement for mcdonald's. burn burn coal burn coal, eat meat, burn coal is club sales. yeah is it the end of the day ? at the end of end of the day? at the end of the day , which is when we're on, the day, which is when we're on, we're. we're on. we. you can tell right now we're in a nice, cool studio, so it could be a hot studio. and no, nick hates you hate the hot. yeah the hot studios and like it's been said many times that that that cold weather has killed far more people than hot weather. >> right. well there was actually a sensible point in this, though, paul, which you hear at first. you're like, of course, the shell guy wants fossil but you it fossil fuels, but you look at it and he's saying just it'll and he's saying it's just it'll be dangerous and irresponsible to cut oil and gas production.

be dangerous and irresponsible to because 1d gas production. be dangerous and irresponsible to because 1d the production. be dangerous and irresponsible to because 1d the prodiofion. be dangerous and irresponsible to because 1d the prodiof living so because of the cost of living and that a point, isn't and that is a fair point, isn't it? yeah, point is my views >> yeah, my point is my views never this never changed on this point. actually, it's absolutely right to say this now. it could be seen we get that seen as cynical. we get that because know, the because he's you know, he's the top or whatever. top man at shell or whatever. however, are changing however, if you are changing from sister ism to a new from one sister ism to a new system means , you always from one sister ism to a new systsoi means , you always from one sister ism to a new systso when means , you always from one sister ism to a new systso when thereans , you always from one sister ism to a new systso when the new; , you always from one sister ism to a new systso when the new system|lways from one sister ism to a new systso when the new system is ays do. so when the new system is working , tested and in place, working, tested and in place, you cut over to that system what the whole 2030 business and all this cutting fossil fuels business is advocating right now is basically chucking all that away and just going straight to it and we'll figure it out when we get there. it cannot work that way. if you want this to work, you have got to have everything on the table until you it works. you can prove it works. otherwise guys. you can prove it works. othyeah,e guys. you can prove it works. othyeah,e gu i;. you can prove it works. othyeah,e gui absolutely agree. >> yeah, no, i absolutely agree. i paulis >> yeah, no, i absolutely agree. i paul is being that's i think paul is being that's like reasonable. like too reasonable. >> and remember, this is >> yeah. and remember, this is a comedy show. sorry. yeah, comedy show. paul. sorry. yeah, well , he said comedy show. paul. sorry. yeah, well, he said to be reasonable, louis and you all just said to say want. say whatever you want. >> yeah. well, say >> really? yeah. well, i'll say whatever to. whatever i want to. >> this is not a cost >> i'll say this is not a cost of living issue. this is a

living issue. they want us dead. they don't want they. they don't. want they they don't. they want us. they they don't. they want us. they they don't want us to be warm. they want be cold is cold want us to be cold. cold is cold is super. it kills. it's killing people. and you know what? i know a lots of people who are in just boy and that just stop oil. but i know all these people, these echo these left, you know, echo people. consider myself an people. i'm a consider myself an echo. i think it's echo. people and i think it's just insane. even just it's insane. it's not even insane. they want us dead. so it's a deliberate thing. okay. >> well, i feel probably now it's my boring role as a host to say don't there. say they don't want us there. i know they are. i don't know. know who they are. i don't know. but they possibly don't but they possibly also don't want dead. some people think want us dead. some people think no i'll tell you who no idea. guys i'll tell you who it is. >> oh, it's. »- >> oh, it's. >> i was going to move on. is it quick? is quick? and will it quick? is it quick? and will it get you even trouble? get you in even more trouble? >> no, it's the it's the one world. oh, by. oh, i see. oh, >> no, it's the it's the one worthe )h, by. oh, i see. oh, >> no, it's the it's the one worthe people oh, i see. oh, >> no, it's the it's the one worthe people who see. oh, >> no, it's the it's the one worthe people who want oh, >> no, it's the it's the one worthe people who want one it's the people who want one world. everyone living globalists. >> okay, well, there you go. let's move on and do the telegraph and a woman who believes get believes it's better to get measles get vaccinated. and measles than get vaccinated. and i why we've come you i can see why we've come to you on story. paul out on this story. paul get us out of even trouble rather than

of even more trouble rather than some people on the show. >> dr. jane dunnigan speaks out years after telling an undercover reporter she would definitely want children to get mumps. as you've already alluded to, this is a story about to, nick, this is a story about a gp who thinks that natural immunity is better than vaccines . i don't think that's that device of i understand the need to remove mumps, but however, it can be achieved a number of ways, it did kill a lot of people and it doesn't anymore. so we should say that however , so we should say that however, the issue i have with this story so we should say that however, ththatue i have with this story so we should say that however, th that she have with this story so we should say that however, th that she is|ve with this story so we should say that however, ththat she is both th this story so we should say that however, ththat she is both a this story so we should say that however, ththat she is both a gp s story so we should say that however, ththat she is both a gp and»ry is that she is both a gp and a homoeopath. you can't be those two things. think that's two things. i don't think that's possible . it's like being possible. it's a bit like being a policeman who's also a criminal. yeah that would never happen. >> would never happen. has never happened. you what, happened. but do you know what, paul? you're right about the homoeopathy. sort homoeopathy. that's where i sort of draw the line because i'm a vaccine sceptic, but i'm also a droplet sceptic. you know, little going little droplets that are going to you know? to save you lavender, you know? yeah, nonsense. but what yeah, it is nonsense. but what do think, because do you think, louis? because take the chin is a very take it on the chin is a very unpopular she's unpopular thing, isn't it? she's sort for the boris.

sort of going for the boris. maybe we could just take it on the chin. but again, with the chin. but then again, with chickenpox, allowed chickenpox, you're allowed to with but all other with that one. but all the other ones, considered kook with that one. but all the other onesa considered kook with that one. but all the other onesa dangerousidered kook with that one. but all the other onesa dangerousidered what do and a dangerous person. what do youi think mean, what she >> i think i mean, what she advocated, never told advocated, she never told anybody. at least. at least the thing. didn't anybody. thing. she didn't tell anybody. don't but she don't take the vaccine. but she said not take said if you do not take the vaccine, don't anybody vaccine, don't tell anybody because it's going it don't because it's going to it don't tell doctor whatever tell your doctor whatever because it's going to it's going tell your doctor whatever bethey're:'s going to it's going tell your doctor whatever bethey're:'s going start; going tell your doctor whatever bethey're:'s going start doing] tell your doctor whatever betithingss going start doing] tell your doctor whatever betithingss going start dcgoing bad things to you. they're going to think you're you're a bad person. so you know, i, i have total sympathy for this woman. and the fact is , is that i am and the fact is, is that i am leaning and i'm not going to you know, you're going to say this is crazy. it's one of the lewis rachel ayers. but mean, rachel ayers. but i mean, i think she's right. i think there's a lot people who there's a lot of people who think that measles is not a virus and that the measles vaccine did nothing to end the measles epidemic. and it was going down way before they instituted the. and you can you can deny it . you can look it up can deny it. you can look it up that they said the measles was dropping by the time they came

up with the vaccine. >> okay. well got well some people including dr. people think that including dr. jane it is. jane donegan. so there it is. no, you have to you have to i have to say. well, yeah, now you're telling to the you're telling me to do the apologies hate. apologies that people hate. louis yes, other louis at home. but yes, other people that disagree people think that disagree with lewis's i don't have lewis's point and i don't have an i'm i'm just to an opinion. i'm just i'm just to here show moving. so, here keep the show moving. so, you know, louis, for three minutes i'm minutes over break so i'm failing in my one the failing in my one role at the moment crack on moment so let's let's crack on that.isit moment so let's let's crack on that. is it for part two. but coming mermaids loses its coming up, mermaids loses its court gets court case. greta thunberg gets arrested even

people's. channel >> welcome back to headliners. let's get straight into it with the times and the dubious trans charity mermaids has lost its legal case against the lgb alliance. a rare win for sanity. lewis well , you alliance. a rare win for sanity. lewis well, you could alliance. a rare win for sanity. lewis well , you could say alliance. a rare win for sanity. lewis well, you could say that. >> or you could say you could say it's a loss for the truth. according to the trans charity mermaid, this is one i think this is an incredible story because this is basically a trans group suing a non trans gay and lesbian group trying to get them denied non—profit status as we would call it in america, a charitable charitable status to stop them from getting tax advantages so that the so that the gay group so that the trans group will have free ride to promote their their beliefs . to promote their their beliefs. and so it's the first so it's

the first time this has ever happened that one group is suing another group them from another group to stop them from getting along. and it's a really interesting story because it's like it's all about the tea and the lgbt one is lgb alliance , the lgbt one is lgb alliance, which doesn't have a tea and one has a tea and it's like it's like the question does pineapple belong on pizza ? belong on pizza? >> i didn't see that coming. yeah >> and i personally , and i don't >> and i personally, and i don't know, we can take a vote. i personally think that pineapple does belong and i'm the same. >> i like pineapple on pizza. >> i like pineapple on pizza. >> oh, we've all agreed. >> oh, we've all agreed. >> one of us needs to disagree for regulation. >> because i don't anyone >> yeah, because i don't anyone to not send me pineapple to not send me free pineapple pizza. don't agree, then pizza. if you don't agree, then just at lewis schaffer. just tweet us at lewis schaffer. yeah tweet lewis. yeah i'm just tweet lewis. >> either . >> either. >> either. >> yeah but the yeah, go on. >> yeah but on the yeah, go on. >> yeah but on the yeah, go on. >> so what i'm saying is, is that should should the. no pineapple sue the pineapple people. i see. or can we all live in peace . live in peace. >> yes. okay. you went full trump there. the pineapple people get the. okay. well yeah.

and the other point about this, apart pineapple thing, apart from the pineapple thing, which the other which is very salient. the other point, that the point, though, paul, is that the judges couldn't actually agree or whoever the tribunal judges couldn't agree whether it should have charitable status or not. but they said that's even hypothetical, irrelevant hypothetical, an irrelevant because agree that there's because they agree that there's no mermaids no no standing. so mermaids had no standing was the legal term. that's what mermaids did was do a long statement about why this was actually a win, which reminded much the reminded me very much of the office brent says, that's office when brent says, that's the that's the real the real quiz, that's the real quiz. throw the quiz. when you throw the shoe over were like, over the bill, they were like, we've guys. and i was we've still won, guys. and i was like, you haven't, though. >> lost. lost >> you've lost. i've lost horribly. >> w- e all got great >> well, we've all got great analogies what analogies today. what did you think, though, paul? >> mean, first all, >> well, i mean, first of all, the stupidity of the counterproductive the stupidity of the counte caseiuctive the stupidity of the counte case istive the stupidity of the countecase is ridiculous. but whole case is ridiculous. but irrespective of that and anything else, you can accuse mermaids of, they are proving themselves to be a cruel and pernicious organisation . as far pernicious organisation. as far as i'm concerned, that anyone who fights their opponents in a way that would undermine themselves like this should be viewed with suspicion. they are

as far as i can tell from seeing everything i'm seeing, they are not particularly interested in the subject matter. they're interested in winning . they're interested in winning. they're interested in winning. they're interested in winning. they're interested in their narrative being part of the mainstream narrative . that's all they're narrative. that's all they're interested in. they don't care for the children involved. they don't care for the real problems i >> -- >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and can i just say something that's that's typical of men . nice. >> okay, well , yeah, mermaids >> okay, well, yeah, mermaids certainly has a dubious record . certainly has a dubious record. i don't know what i can say. i don't know what my legal standing so just leave standing is, so let's just leave it and do the telegraph it there and do the telegraph and museum removed and the v&a museum has removed age appropriate pushing age appropriate books pushing gender books, gender age, inappropriate books, sorry, pushing gender ideology and this is actually a second rare win for sanity ball in a i'ow. >> row. >> this is definitely another win for sanity in fact, it's just normality. the just a win for normality. the institution caters to institution which caters to under 14 very relevant, under 14 seconds, takes two titles off display over concerns about their gender and sexuality themes. now, the really important thing to remember here is that the books that they've taken away were for 14 to 18

year olds and this is an organisation that caters for 0 to 14. so straight away it's not appropriate for the kids that they're dealing with. so it's a good thing and this shouldn't be a divisive story. this is absolute normality. you take a look at what you've got in front of you, you've got children in front how old are these front of you. how old are these children? they're under 14. children? oh, they're under 14. do they need be sexualised in do they need to be sexualised in any whatsoever over do they any way whatsoever over do they need learn these adult themes need to learn these adult themes and adult issues ? the answer to and adult issues? the answer to thatis and adult issues? the answer to that is no, they don't . that's that is no, they don't. that's not they're in this not why they're in this establishment. not establishment. that's not why they're this they're going to this institution and they're doing the right thing. right. the the right thing. right. and the age tristram age aspect has given tristram hunt , director, age aspect has given tristram hunt, director, easy out hunt, the director, an easy out because just say, well, because he can just say, well, it's age inappropriate, but it's also inappropriate general. it's age inappropriate, but it's als

because because either way, both sides can claim victory on this, that they the trans groups can can say, look at how bad the young victor and albert museum is and the other side can say, look , we're winning. we're look, we're winning. we're making progress, that we force them. we force the v&a to young v&a to take the books off. okay well, we've got to press on and do the guardian greta do the guardian and greta thunberg has charged with thunberg has been charged with disobeying during disobeying swedish police during a protest. >> clearly, she's a dangerous countercultural and not countercultural figure and not in any way protected by the elites. well, elites. lewis well, it's interesting . interesting. >> it's this is in the guardian, the greta thunberg charge. they were involved in blocking and blocking a port of malmo of oil tankers coming in and it just shows what you can get away with as a 15 year old. you can't get away with as a 20 year old. right she and, you know, she's losing her charge no matter how small and malnourished she looks. people don't like her anymore. only 20 only 20 people came to help her out. and the

sad part for us is, is it just shows it's bad to get old. >> yeah, well, that's an interesting take because i. i wonder because we all saw that video on twitter where it appeared, i think it was a different arrest, but it appeared that the police were waiting the cameras went on. they all laughing. they were all laughing. then they greta up and people they picked greta up and people were saying, well, were people were saying, well, this i don't know, this is stage. so i don't know, but i don't know what i can say on but saw on that. but people saw the video. lewis right? video. but now is lewis right? actually, that are actually, that people are getting greater getting a bit sick of greater is she of because got she sort of because she's got a bit radical on some things bit more radical on some things where even the sort of elites seem a bit annoyed with seem to be a bit annoyed with her? do you think? paul her? what do you think? paul yeah, all it. yeah, i'm for all it. >> i'm for it because every >> i'm all for it because every action stop action that. greta and just stop oil moment is oil take at the moment is sabotaging their own endeavours. we've what they're we've all forgotten what they're complaining about. we just see these look ridiculous and these you look up ridiculous and pathetic and pathetic in the dictionary and it's of people it's just photographs of people holding don't holding orange signs. we don't know orange know what it says on the orange signs. know that they're signs. we just know that they're absolute okay? and absolute losers. okay? and we just that straight just know that straight away that doing that whatever they're doing is ridiculous that whatever they're doing is ridi lately, they're sitting on >> lately, they're sitting on tennis courts. >> twice yesterday at >> i mean, twice yesterday at wimbledon, at the ashes, they're

just attacking middle britain. >> i of say >> yeah, but what i kind of say with got to move on, with this, we've got to move on, but the but is whether it's the pantomime of and she still pantomime of greta and she still is very much the elite sort of totem totemic figure or is it just actually they are getting bored of it? i don't know. let's find the future, but find out in the future, but let's move on do times let's move on and do the times and church of england and the church of england are considering dropping their £500 fee i suppose with fee for weddings. i suppose with so many people flocking the so many people flocking to the church, afford it. paul church, they can afford it. paul i with a lot of i just i've gone with a lot of sarcasm i'm afraid. the sarcasm tonight, i'm afraid. the lowest wit i tell lowest form of wit i could tell the england should the church of england should ditch of more than £500 ditch its fees of more than £500 for weddings because they should be as a gift from god . be seen as a gift from god. >> and according to a formal proposal from from a vicar. and of this makes sense. of course, this makes sense. i mean, irony is and kind of mean, the irony is and kind of counters what you said is the church is probably church of england is probably one of the wealthiest organisations country organisations in the country because charitable because of its charitable status, like status, because like like scientology , erg doesn't get scientology, erg doesn't get taxed. okay i'm not i'm not, by the way, conflating scientology and christianity. i think that would be ridiculous. i'm really not. however i would be ridiculous. i'm really not. howeveri mean, would be ridiculous. i'm really not. however i mean, this is

this is a this is an organisation that do a bucket collection at the of every collection at the end of every gig- collection at the end of every gig. so they've got lots of money i that they money and i think that they should be encouraging traditional weddings. i think that would great to see that it would be great to see more of it for, for particularly people who and to and people who want to and to and to put behind a paywall put that behind a paywall i think is not good. >> to that because >> you beat me to that because the here, the reverend the reverend here, the reverend tom wolford, who's from new longton near preston, i'm from near there. so top lad, near there. so he's a top lad, he said. i think it's shortsighted the way we look at it, wedding is it, because if the wedding is free, couples will donate. free, most couples will donate. and a bucket show at the and that is a bucket show at the end festival. you end of a festival. you don't charge, bucket charge, you hold your bucket at the all done it here. the end. we've all done it here. oh, but actually, just oh, yeah. but actually, just quickly, i think he's i think he's because want to he's right because you want to get the church. get people into the church. weddings down the weddings are down from the church england, church of england, 31,000 in 2019. 220,000 the 2019. it was 220,000 after the first anyway, sorry. first world war. anyway, sorry. >> no, you're about >> go on. no, you're right about that. church gets the that. and the church gets the gets money for selling gets the bar money for selling the and whisky. or at the beer and the whisky. or at least should. they were least they should. if they were smart, set a bar there. >> they get the orange money from those little oranges with the remember the candle. remember it. christingle. anyway, i'm a christian, i'm a. you don't

christian, but i'm a. you don't know. you don't but you're know. you don't know, but you're looking at me blankly. different religion, all religion, different country. all right. sorry. carry on, lewis. yeah, at end of the day, a >> but at the end of the day, a lot of people, they don't know the a wedding lot of people, they don't know the a a wedding lot of people, they don't know the a marriage. a wedding lot of people, they don't know the a marriage. we a wedding lot of people, they don't know the a marriage. we need wedding lot of people, they don't know the a marriage. we need more ng and a marriage. we need more marriages. marriage is are way down. weddings are way down. but wedding is just ceremony. down. weddings are way down. but wedding is just ceremony . and wedding is just a ceremony. and marriage is the commitment for life. okay, well , we'll end marriage is the commitment for life. okay, well, we'll end up. >> but we need more marriages and more weddings in the church of or christian of england or any christian church or any probably any church. i'm church. let's do the guy. i'm being so like, safe tonight. i've got ridiculous . i've got so i've got ridiculous. i've got so sort of non—controversial. let's do and canadian do the guardian. and a canadian judge that thumbs judge has ruled that a thumbs up emoji represent a contract emoji can represent a contract agreement. i can is agreement. all i can say is eyeroll emoji. yes , this eyeroll emoji. lewis yes, this is quite interesting. >> a company put a sentence sent, sent, sent farmers in saska swan and i don't know how to explain it. a you wanted to confirm a flax contract and the guy responded with a thumbs up with a thumbs up. >> and it's whether that was a

yes or whether then a canadian judge said that that was okay, which find a bit shocking which is i find a bit shocking because been to because i've never been to saskatchewan the kind saskatchewan, but it's the kind of that i don't think they of place that i don't think they really mobile phone really know what a mobile phone or computer let have really know what a mobile phone 0|havemputer let have really know what a mobile phone 0|have opposable let have really know what a mobile phone 0|have opposable thumbs. have a have opposable thumbs. >> . >> okay. >> okay. >> very quickly, i've got >> very quickly, paul, i've got family saskatoon, saskatchewan. but what say is no >> but what i would say is no emoji should be contractually binding whatsoever because if it is, i've got a lot of laughing out loud to make up. absolutely. >> i don't the idea that >> and i don't the idea that thumbs up is contract to me, thumbs up is a contract to me, it's often just saying, okay, lewis on, which lewis and then moving on, which is, yeah not is, you know, you just. yeah not necessarily the guy. >> guy owns £86,000. >> okay. the guy owns £86,000. >> okay. the guy owns £86,000. >> shocking. >> i know. it's shocking. ridiculous anyway, we've got to give up and move ridiculous anyway, we've got to giv

welcome back to headliners. it's the final section. let's do the daily mail. and in case you were worried that climate change alarmism going away , they're alarmism is going away, they're now saying that climate change alarmism is going away, they're ncmakingg that climate change alarmism is going away, they're ncmaking us1at climate change alarmism is going away, they're ncmaking us blindmate change alarmism is going away, they're ncmaking us blind ande change alarmism is going away, they're ncmaking us blind and poor. ge is making us blind and poor. i mean, that's ridiculous. >> isn't it? now, >> it is, isn't it? now, scientists climate is scientists say climate change is making many things making us blind. so many things i doing are me blind. i am doing are making me blind. i am doing are making me blind. i know where list them i don't know where list them all. i can't list them all right now. them. there's now. i can't list them. there's only found those who only two they found those who lived in warmer regions were up to nearly 50, more likely to

suffer serious vision impairment compared to those in cooler places. i'm going to go out on a limb here and say, i don't believe this. yeah, simply believe this. yeah, i simply don't it. read the don't believe it. i've read the story. another story story. it's another story full of statistics about of numbers and statistics about people who live closer to the equator are probably not wearing sunglasses they should. but sunglasses when they should. but we beings . we are we are human beings. we are supposed feet the supposed to have our feet on the ground, the above our head . ground, the sun above our head. >> yeah. what was particularly ridiculous one hotter ridiculous is that one hotter countries often poorer. so countries are often poorer. so it could be that. but two, they compared new with florida , compared new york with florida, where people retire. of where people go to retire. of course , their eyesight bad. course, their eyesight is bad. they're retiring . they're retiring. >> yeah, but that's not even the question. quest. not question. the quest. that's not even cause. cause is it? even the cause. the cause is it? probably. just guessing. is probably. i'm just guessing. is that the deep that it's saying in the deep south america and those south of america and those people who are who are the it's getting warmer down there. they people who are who are the it's gettircomparer down there. they people who are who are the it's gettircomparer d

mississippi, alabama , louisiana, mississippi, alabama, louisiana, those are the fattest people in america. what this is, this america. and what this is, this is when you see a story like this, you call carl, you have to call carl. who is carl correlation associate ation risk of link of carl. it's like saying it's like saying a lot of people a lot more drowning in the summertime. there's a lot more drowning when people eat ice cream. and that's because it's in the summertime. >> yeah. no, it's not causal. yeah, you're right, lewis. i thought you'd gone mad for a second, actually, was second, but actually, it was quite, quite a good point. and yeah, they're blaming ultraviolet light in catching infectious diseases in the heat and pollutants the but and pollutants in the air. but it's it's nonsense. it's nonsense. it's nonsense. yeah, it's nonsense. we all agree. we're right. agree. and we're right. no balance let's do balance on that one. let's do the with a story about the mail with a story about junior doctors. so who better to handle doctor handle it than senior doctor lewis ? lewis schaffer? >> schaffer. it >> senior lewis schaffer. it says twitter account that says on my twitter account that i'm a doctor that wouldn't lie even i'm a doctor that wouldn't lie ever. lie. no. ever. yeah, it wouldn't lie. no. and stop calling us and please stop calling us junior doctors whinge junior doctors, british medical association rules decades old phrase is demeaning and i said

this i don't know whether you're on the show when i said this. i've said this many times. stop calling them junior doctors. they're they're they're doctors. anyway they're not like they're even they're doctors. anyway they're not trainee;e they're even they're doctors. anyway they're not trainee doctors.e even they're doctors. anyway they're not trainee doctors. they'rean they're doctors. anyway they're not realiee doctors. they'rean they're doctors. anyway they're not real doctors)rs. they'rean they're doctors. anyway they're not real doctors .�*s. they'rean they're doctors. anyway they're not real doctors . and|ey'rean they're doctors. anyway they're not real doctors . and it"rean like real doctors. and it could have them to have done it have killed them to have done it years ago. just, you know, throw them bone. them a bone. >> i mean, there's some of >> yeah. i mean, there's some of them been there for them have been there for a decade, they're not decade, paul. they're not junior, think people junior, but do you think people would inclined call would be more inclined to call them showed up them senior if they showed up for work? mean, 75,000 on for work? i mean, 75,000 on strike at doctor most strike just at work. doctor most people or call them people have set off or call them whatever you like. >> it's flipping good point. >> it's a flipping good point. nick them back nick i mean, let's get them back into and doing the into the workplace and doing the doctoring and then have a doctoring and then we can have a chat what's on their name chat about what's on their name badge. right, well, let's chat about what's on their name badge. throught, well, let's chat about what's on their name badge. throught, and, let's chat about what's on their name badge. throught, and, lethe next one. >> and the telegraph asks, is a university degree still worth it? that's that it? no, it's not. that's that one no. have one dealt with. no. let's have a quick this one. quick go at this one. >> what you think? i don't >> what do you think? i don't think going disagree. think we're going to disagree. disillusioned debt. disillusioned and in debt. today's graduates are struggling. time paid struggling. is it time we paid more higher more attention to the higher education now, more attention to the higher educeof»n now, more attention to the higher educeof course, now, more attention to the higher educeof course, if now, more attention to the higher educeof course, if everyone's look, of course, if everyone's got a degree, it's worthless. when 18, 1998 through to when i was 18, 1998 through to about 2002, when i would have

been going to university, you were 18 for four years. >> i was, yeah , you're >> i was, yeah, you're absolutely right. >> i wasn't. i was 22. and at the end of that period, and that's the period i would have gone to university, but i didn't gone to university, but i didn't go to university. i did a work gone to university, but i didn't go trelease'sity. i did a work gone to university, but i didn't go trelease where did a work gone to university, but i didn't go trelease where iid a work gone to university, but i didn't go trelease where i went fork gone to university, but i didn't go trelease where i went to< day release where i went to university through work. so i was doing a practical job and getting education. getting my academic education. >> prison >> it sounds like prison or it was little bit, >> it sounds like prison or it was little bit , but at the >> it sounds like prison or it was little bit, but at the end was a little bit, but at the end of the if i'd done the of the day, if i'd done the alternative, alternative alternative, all the alternative sounds like it's 1830 holiday alternative, all the alternative soundzeverybody 1830 holiday alternative, all the alternative soundzeverybody just 30 holiday alternative, all the alternative soundzeverybody just goes liday alternative, all the alternative soundzeverybody just goes to ay where everybody just goes to find themselves, find out what their pronouns are for four years and they, you know, 80, 90% of them come out with something relative useless. >> you're right. was >> no, you're right. it was blair's go to blair's idea. 50% should go to university. devalues a degree. then that go, then the people that don't go, there's a stigma and it stops people doing apprenticeships, etcetera. you etcetera. louis quickly, if you can, think? can, what do you think? >> feelings exactly. >> same my feelings exactly. i got i have two beautiful sons and i've got two and one ugly one. i've got two beautiful sons one beautiful sons and one has a degree and he's got, he's got no girlfriend and the other one who does have a degree is with this

beautiful thai woman. and i'd. >> okay, there's a moral lesson with every story right there. all right . well, let's get one all right. well, let's get one and do the telegraph now. and is florida really banning woke tourists for. >> no, it's not. it's not at all. i mean, florida has shifted rightwards in recent years under ron desantis. but is this affecting the visitor experience? i don't think it is at all. i mean, i've read the story, of course, and this story is trying to tell us that because florida has leant to the right and has been rebellious against things like covid lockdown of an lockdown being a bit of an outlier, that, course , it outlier, that, of course, it must putting people but must be putting people off, but it's all to it's not. it's i mean, we all to travel places. well, i don't travel places. well, i don't travel that often, unfortunately travel places. well, i don't t|butl that often, unfortunately travel places. well, i don't t|butl tha of ften, unfortunately travel places. well, i don't t|butl tha of people ifortunately travel places. well, i don't t|butl tha of people travelately , but lots of people travel depending on where the weather is. care is is. good they don't care who is in charge. i mean, we travel all over africa. we travel over over africa. we travel all over the poorest parts of europe because the sun is. because that's where the sun is. >> i see you going for the sun. i think it's to do with, isn't it? to do with the state of being well run. louis. you've got and florida now got texas and florida and now the places united the best places in the united states, only is the states, the only thing is the

democrats states, the only thing is the demthem. but isn't it because ruin them. but isn't it because of that? also the tension is of that? but also the tension is the saying also the article is saying they also need so come on. need custom. so come on. >> need custom. so come on. >> well, it's what's his name. it's guy who said it. this it's the guy who said it. this guy scott the former guy rick scott who? the former governor youtube governor and he did a youtube video saw had he video which i saw had he basically you're basically said, if you're a socialist, if you're a socialist, he said, if you're a socialist, he said, if you're a socialist, you're communist. socialist, you're a communist. don't as a don't come to our state as a tourist. he's nobody. i mean, tourist. he's a nobody. i mean, he's people love gay he's a nobody. people love gay people love disney. disney is the gay thing in the world. >> okay. didn't expect that ending . but there it >> okay. didn't expect that >> okay. didn't expect that ending . ending. but there it is. >> okay. didn't expect that ending . but there it is. always ending. but there it is. always fun with louis, the show is nearly over. let's have another quick look at friday's front pages. quick look at friday's front pages . so quick look at friday's front pages. so daily mail has pages. so the daily mail has horror at end of term tea party that very tragic story. the ayahs home office paints over mickey mouse mural for children at asylum centre . the guardian at asylum centre. the guardian court tells ministers to give johnson messages to inquiry. of course, the whatsapp messages from rishi sunak , the financial from rishi sunak, the financial times, markets times, global stock markets tumble us borrowing costs tumble after us borrowing costs hit 16 year high. the metro has horror at school. tea party and the daily star. we've been

eating our weetabix all wrong . eating our weetabix all wrong. very big story from the star. so thanks so much for watching. that's tonight's show. thanks to paul and lewis. headline is back tomorrow at 11. want to tomorrow at 11. if you want to get then stay tuned for get 5 am, then stay tuned for breakfast. now, for me, breakfast. but for now, for me, it's night. good morning. it's good night. good morning. and .

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