channel hello, channel her,good channel hello, good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours , me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this all about opinion . this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. be course it's yours. we'll be debating, , and at debating, discussing, and at times will disagree. but no times we will disagree. but no one will cancelled. so one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also broadcaster and political commentator sam dowler . also broadcaster and political commentator sam dowler. in a few moments time, i'll be mocking the week with comedian diane spence. but before get spence. but before we get started , let's get your latest

started, let's get your latest news headlines . good afternoon. news headlines. good afternoon. >> it's 3:00. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. the prime minister has made it clear that britain discouraged his the use of cluster munitions after the united states agreed to send them to ukraine. president biden says he stands by his decision, despite criticism from human rights groups. >> rishi sunak, who will meet mr biden in london on monday ahead of the nato summit, says britain is supporting kyiv in other ways i >> -- >> uk is signatory to a convention which prohibits the production or use of cluster munitions and discourages their use. we will continue to do our part to support ukraine against russias illegal and unprovoked invasion. we've done that by providing heavy battle tanks and most recently long—range weapons and hopefully all countries can continue to support ukraine as well. >> meanwhile, ukraine's president zelenskyy has visited

snake island to mark 500 days of war. >> the area in the black sea was retaken by the ukrainian army. a year ago. mr zelenskyy is now in istanbul holding talks with turkey's president erdogan in his first visit to the country since the start of the conflict to protest against housing asylum seekers on a barge in dorset are taking place amid reports that the bibby stockholm could arrive later this week. both stand up to racism. dorset and no to the barge group are opposed to plans to house 500 asylum seekers at portland port. it's part of the government's plans to reduce costs by moving migrants out of hotel rooms . 686 migrants out of hotel rooms. 686 people crossed the channel yesterday. that's the highest daily number this year. protesters, organisers alex bailey says he will not stop fighting to continue our campaign in open letters. >> we are going to talk to them

in person if we can next week. there is an open council meeting with dorset council. we are going to attend. we today then are going to make our voices heard and the people of portland , the people of weymouth and the people of dorset . people of dorset. >> the bbc is reportedly investigating a claim that one of its well known presenters paid a teenager for explicit pictures. now it's alleged that the man paid more than £35,000 for the images with the sun saying that the young person was 17 years old. the newspaper says the teen's family complained to the teen's family complained to the broadcaster in may in a statement, the bbc said it takes any allegation opens very seriously and will act on any information that comes to light . the family of an eight year old girl who was killed in south—west london have described her as intelligent and cheeky. seuna her as intelligent and cheeky. selina lough died after a land rover crashed into a prep school in wimbledon on thursday.

another eight year old girl is in a life threatening condition and a woman in her 40s remains in a critical condition. the 46 year old female driver arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving has been bailed pending further enquiries . the chancellor admits that halving inflation is proving harder than expected. jeremy hunt says the tories pledge of inflation reaching 5% by the end of the year . inflation reaching 5% by the end of the year. it's going to be more challenging than first thought. mr hunt also says tax cuts can't be introduced if it makes the battle against inflation more difficult. inflation remains currently at 8.7% the government has released an online video in a bid to stop fly—tipping . well, the tweet fly—tipping. well, the tweet from the prime minister's official page says it means game over for fly tippers. bigger on

the spot. fines for litter, graffiti and fly—tipping are now in force as part of a crackdown on anti social behaviour. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. let's get straight back to nana . straight back to nana. >> good afternoon . this is a gb >> good afternoon. this is a gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua and this has gone five minutes after 3:00 andifs has gone five minutes after 3:00 and it's time now to mock the week. and what a busy one it's been. week. and what a busy one it's been . it started with the been. it started with the celebration of the king's coronation when thousands of people lined the streets in central edinburgh this week to watch the people's procession ahead of a national service of thanksgiving and a declaration to mark king charles the third's recent coronation. now the king and queen are saying that now, isn't it queen camilla? yes, it is. her and the prince and princess of wales also processed through the city centre for the

honours of scotland were presented as a king during a service returning to service before returning to edinburgh castle. and edinburgh castle. pomp and pageant tree. yes, it best pageant tree. yes, we do it best here, don't we, in the uk? well on the other side of the pond, i bet and meghan bet harry and meghan must be kicking their kicking themselves after their disastrous slam the disastrous attempts to slam the monarchy have all backfired with rumours of harry going africa rumours of harry going to africa and meghan pursuing her own goals literally in the states . goals literally in the states. things don't seem that rosy in the montecito mansion now. this week also saw the backlash after itv sank to a new level of wokery when in the previous week. in a newsnight item about rising water bills, they used a trans woman, a biological man, to represent working mothers. now, the person they used turned out to be trans activist and militant left winger mika mineo. pagliarulo now, it was so bizarre. i mean , i actually bizarre. i mean, i actually pressed the information button on my remote, wondering if the news had accidentally switched to about trans to a documentary about trans rights now named on screen as a thames water customer . rights now named on screen as a thames water customer. mika was dressed rather like a 1950s housewife, complete with a long

skirt updo hairstyle , dangly skirt updo hairstyle, dangly earrings and nail varnish is a single mum, i can tell you i barely had time to get dressed, let alone do my nails. and in a distinctly masculine voice she can explained to the itn reporter that rising prices were tough. if you're a working mum like me already struggling to get the things that my kid needs among the millions of single mothers wrestling with soaring bills, why? oh why? she's a trans woman . so a biological man trans woman. so a biological man is somehow representative of single mothers . haven't itv got single mothers. haven't itv got enough to deal with ? and sir enough to deal with? and sir keir starmer talked about how he would rob peter to pay paul in his planned private school raid . he thinks that if he charges vat on private school fees that he'll have enough money to pay to dire straits of state to fix the dire straits of state school system finds itself in. so instead of paying for this improvement education by improvement to education by attempting to shrink the bloated civil service and fix government waste , he suggesting, shaking waste, he suggesting, shaking the magic money tree of parents who breaking their backs to

who are breaking their backs to afford a better life for their children by taking them out of the broken state school system because they know how bad it is . as he talks about oracy being an important skill. well, i could give him a few words for his plan , but they're all his plan, but they're all expletives . private schools do expletives. private schools do a lot for the community and they save government money save the government money because parents are paying because these parents are paying twice. another ridiculous plan that won't work and will only result in burdening are already busting state school system rishi sunak another by—election they're like rats fleeing the sinking ship, aren't they? i mean, it's they've done such a bad job. it's actually quite embarrassing now . this time it's embarrassing now. this time it's chris pincher who many say was the straw that broke the camel's back. and led to the fall of bofis.| back. and led to the fall of boris . i beg back. and led to the fall of boris. i beg to back. and led to the fall of boris . i beg to differ. they boris. i beg to differ. they blame boris pretty much everything. chris groped two people in the carlton club whilst he was drunk. he has since apologised , but he is since apologised, but he is facing an eight week common suspension this would trigger a

recall petition in his tamworth constituency, potentially leading to a by—election. the parliament's standards committee said that it's completely inappropriate behaviour was an abuse of power. oh dear. looks to me like another one bites the dust. it's been a mucky old week . so before we get stuck into the debates, here's what's coming up on the way in the next houn coming up on the way in the next hour. comedian diana spencer will be making light of this week's top stories in mock the week on the way at 320. it's climate control show boss. well someone claims that cutting oil and gas production would be irresponsible as green systems aren't developed enough, which i think we all knew which could save energy bills soaring amid the cost of living crisis . then the cost of living crisis. then stay tuned at 335, can smartwatches really detect early signs of parkinson's? one study has revealed that these watches can identify the disease. seven years before symptoms surface in people who develop parkinson's .

people who develop parkinson's. could this change the way doctors treat it? we'll be discussing that then on the way at 350, it's this week's political spotlight. i'll be joined by former labour mp simon danczuk to talk about life and his career in politics. that's on the way as ever. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. right so joining me now to mock the week is comedian diane spencer . we got it right diane spencer. we got it right before you were diane spencer , before you were diane spencer, then you were diana spencer . then you were diana spencer. it's diane. >> got there eventually. we don't mind . i would love that don't mind. i would love that they did that during king charles's coronation, the sort of reading it out we now present with you, charlie, is it charlie? is it chaz? chaz do we call him king chaz? now, what do you think they call him in scotland? >> i don't know. i wouldn't like to say actually, honest to say actually, to be honest with interesting with you. yeah, it's interesting that , i think it's that i mean, i think it's wonderful. i mean , what what's wonderful. i mean, what what's your on it? scottish

your take on it? the scottish people a bit people i mean, there was a bit of there lining the streets. >> half of them cheering. >> half of them were cheering. half half of half of them were not. half of them the placards. them were waving the placards. and obviously he's got and i mean, obviously he's got a connection with scotland. what i thought quite interesting, connection with scotland. what i thc said, quite interesting, connection with scotland. what i thcsaid, oh, quite interesting, connection with scotland. what i thcsaid, oh, he'se interesting, connection with scotland. what i thcsaid, oh, he's going'esting, connection with scotland. what i thcsaid, oh, he's going'estlook he said, oh, he's going to look forward every forward to spending nearly every summer in edinburgh. i thought, god, is duty, isn't god, that is duty, isn't it? thatis god, that is duty, isn't it? that is duty to your country. the fact that every single summer you're going to go to edinburgh, mean, get me edinburgh, i mean, don't get me wrong, i've been to the fringe festival, went the last festival, but i went the last time bin strikes. festival, but i went the last tim oh, bin strikes. festival, but i went the last tim oh, i bin strikes. festival, but i went the last tim oh, i remember strikes. festival, but i went the last tim oh, i remember that.3s. festival, but i went the last tim oh, i remember that. oh oh, >> oh, i remember that. oh oh, it horrible . it was horrible. >> just. i mean, i wonder if that's what meghan thought she thought. do you know what? i can't spend every summer in edinburgh. that's it. can't spend every summer in edinburgh. that's it . we're edinburgh. that's it. we're going, harry. we're going. i can't believe to can't believe he's going to africa. she even go to edinburgh? >> did she even go to edinburgh? i don't think was out there i don't think she was out there for 14 months. she didn't have been edinburgh. been to edinburgh. i don't even know. 14 know. i mean, she only spent 14 months. it was as part months. i think it was as part of royal family. i mean, of the royal family. i mean, i mean, at least more time, mean, at least spend more time, girl, know things girl, get to know things and then away. mean, i'd then then walk away. i mean, i'd have three years have done at least three years on yeah, you'd >> yeah. yeah, you'd have done a proper tour. but was like,

proper tour. but she was like, i think she wanted to be tipped, like, know, american like, you know, the american way. did way. like every time she did something, like , hm. and something, she was like, hm. and then you. you are then i know you. you are a princess. that is what you get. but never mind. she didn't realise she didn't actually need money. >> they didn't need money. but she thought that she'd go on this mystery tour of this worldwide privacy which worldwide privacy tour, which hasn't very well all. hasn't ended very well at all. do think sort of the do you think it's sort of the way going now, they're do you think it's sort of the way to going now, they're do you think it's sort of the way to endioing now, they're do you think it's sort of the way to end upg now, they're do you think it's sort of the way to end up broke? they're do you think it's sort of the way to end up broke? harrya do you think it's sort of the way to end up broke? harry and going to end up broke? harry and meghan. harry and meghan. >> i mean, i don't know if they get keep their money for the get to keep their money for the things that they've been paid for haven't produced . for that they haven't produced. >> some kind of >> like, is it some kind of prenup with, >> like, is it some kind of prer know, with, >> like, is it some kind of prer know, spotify with, >> like, is it some kind of prer know, spotify and with, >> like, is it some kind of prer know, spotify and netflix you know, spotify and netflix where it's like, oh, we'll give you the money, you gave us you the money, oh, you gave us nothing. all that? you the money, oh, you gave us not no, . all that? you the money, oh, you gave us not no, i all that? you the money, oh, you gave us not no, i think all that? you the money, oh, you gave us not no, i think they all that? you the money, oh, you gave us not no, i think they did..l that? you the money, oh, you gave us not no, i think they did. theyt? >> no, i think they did. they didn't no didn't get all the money. no they get all the money. they didn't get all the money. so i have a sneaky suspicion that cap that they'll be back cap in hand. will. which hand. at least he will. which will but in a way, will be quite sad, but in a way, slightly what you slightly funny. now what did you what of this itv what do you think of this itv business mean, look, business now? i mean, look, i like all news like to watch all the news channels. all them channels. i watch all of them just to a good view on what just to get a good view on what everyone's saying. obviously, just to get a good view on what everyon

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being a woman like you would get a sports badge. they're like, i've been a woman for 100m. get me a badge. and it's like, i've never seen such a needy group of people. it's like they need us all to go, oh, you're such a brave woman. you're so brave . brave woman. you're so brave. and it's like, do you know what? grow of a woman grow up. part of being a woman is getting on with it and is just getting on with it and doing things. when nobody acknowledges i >> -- >> well, m >> well, that's why, you know, they're because. they're clearly men. because. because be praised because they want to be praised for everything, honestly, you know, women, we don't go on know, like women, we don't go on about, , know, we've about, oh, you know, we've got breastfeeding and that breastfeeding and this and that and look at us. i mean, there breastfeeding and this and that and that at us. i mean, there breastfeeding and this and that and that image,i mean, there breastfeeding and this and that and that image, ofiean, there breastfeeding and this and that and that image, of course,are breastfeeding and this and that and that image, of course, that was that image, of course, that she mean, even she put out there. i mean, even it me to say that, she it pains me to say that, but she put this out there of her put this image out there of her breastfeeding . and breastfeeding this baby. and obviously we know that. yes a man can lactate. i wrote a piece in the daily mail on friday, which all about this which was all about this particular woman . and she turns particular woman. and she turns out that she's trans activist out that she's a trans activist as well. know, they've as well. so, you know, they've got a trans got somebody who's a trans activist active activist and also an active member think, the civil member of i think, the civil service or something, not even you they you know, it's like they went out to find out of their way to find somebody women

somebody ipp represent women know single mums, single mums , know single mums, single mums, single trans activists. >> yeah . it's like, i mean, >> yeah. it's like, i mean, maybe because of the phillip schofield thing, maybe itv are like , we've got to do something, like, we've got to do something, but not that. >> that just makes it worse. everyone's looking at them going, what planet? reality going, what planet? in reality do where a woman is do you live in where a woman is a single puts on heels and a single mum puts on heels and like this nice outfit and all that? did you all washing that? did you do all the washing and no we can barely look and the. no we can barely look as mother. i know. i go as a single mother. i know. i go literally when i'm dropping my kids look a clown. kids off, i look like a clown. did see? did you see? >> i do. never look like a >> i do. you never look like a i do, literally. you see the do, literally. did you see the photo? was another photo photo? there was another photo where the same person, the mika person was literally saying, oh, i've just been shopping for nipple clamps. i know. i've just been shopping for nipple clamps. i know . and i was nipple clamps. i know. and i was like, please stop. like, this is now too much for me. these layers are just too horrible. and i think itv made a really bad choice because it just it just takes away from, well , this just takes away from, well, this you well, and the issue they were talking about, which was about the rise in water prices

that we've totally about it. >> you know not even talking about that now, what about that now now, now. what about that now now, now. what about he's losing about rishi sunak? he's losing everybody. chris pincher groped somebody . somebody. >> yeah, well, i don't care. it's chris pincher grope somebody gets eight weeks somebody he gets eight weeks off. that's a summer holiday. >> getting for that i >> he's getting paid for that i presume he's presume as well, presuming he's being he's being being presumably he's being paid. i don't know. but i'm presuming will paid presuming that he will be paid well. yeah. presuming that he will be paid welhe'eah. presuming that he will be paid welhe gets eight weeks off. i >> he gets eight weeks off. i mean, time, what's he mean, in that time, what's he going probably going to do? he's probably going to theatre. going to go to the theatre. he's going to go to the theatre. he's going to musical giles. to write some musical st giles. he's going to to, know, he's going to go to, you know, a couple i'm just couple of clubs. and i'm just like, well, that's not fair. like, you should be made do like, well, that's not fair. like, hours.ould be made do like, well, that's not fair. like, hours. surelye made do like, well, that's not fair. like, hours. surely when; do like, well, that's not fair. like, hours. surely when you do like, well, that's not fair. like, hours. surely when you get extra hours. surely when you get punished for doing something wrong you should make wrong, you should actually make up your punishment. and of course, it's going to put course, yeah, it's going to put rishi on, on, on the back foot because of these byelections because of all these byelections . pincher was the one . and chris pincher was the one that boris because the that unsteady boris because the way boris handled it then everybody started jumping ship . everybody started jumping ship. >> literally mean, >> it's literally i mean, i think a bit unfair. think it was a bit unfair. everything blamed on boris. think it was a bit unfair. everysomebodyblamed on boris. think it was a bit unfair. every somebody who ed on boris. think it was a bit unfair. everysomebody who can't boris. think it was a bit unfair. every somebody who can't control even somebody who can't control their boris's even somebody who can't control their what boris's even somebody who can't control their what you boris's even somebody who can't control their what you think oris's even somebody who can't control their what you think of;'s even somebody who can't control their what you think of keir fault. what do you think of keir starmer and his idea that what he's going to do is he's going

to take money out of the private school from parents school sector from the parents who hard to who are working really hard to send these schools who are working really hard to se pay these schools who are working really hard to se pay for these schools who are working really hard to se pay for publiczse schools who are working really hard to se pay for public schoolools to pay for the public school sector. >> this is why we need cash in sector. >> society, vhy we need cash in sector. >> society, because eed cash in sector. >> society, because izd cash in sector. >> society, because i am ash in sector. >> society, because i am fedin sector. >> society, because i am fed up our society, because i am fed up of going to of them saying we're going to take here put take money out of here and put it because they take it to there because they take money here and then it money out of here and then it goes somewhere that we don't know, at least if we add cash, they turn up to the they should turn up to the private school, go put a cash in there and take the taxi, there and then take the taxi, take an uber around to all the state schools you set state schools here you go. set up direct set up a up a direct debit set up a direct debit. >> spencer, you very >> diana spencer, thank you very much. you diana. much. i'll call you diana. that's when are you that's on purpose. when are you back? you're on headliners? soon aren't speech nation >> i am on free speech nation tomorrow the lovely andrew tomorrow with the lovely andrew free nation. tomorrow with the lovely andrew free sure ation. tomorrow with the lovely andrew free sure yom. tomorrow with the lovely andrew free sure you join us at 7:00 >> make sure you join us at 7:00 us on gb news on a sunday. us here on gb news on a sunday. that, of course, diane that, of course, is diane spencen that, of course, is diane spencer. news with spencer. this is gb news with live online on a digital live on tv online on a digital radio. i'm akua . still to radio. i'm nana akua. still to come at 335, can smartwatch shoes really detect early signs of parkinson's? one study has revealed these watches can. yes, they help detect symptoms they could help detect symptoms seven years before the actual disease occurs. but first, let's

get an update with your weather i >> -- >> that 5mm >> that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. we've got heavy showers and thunderstorms in the forecast for the rest of this weekend, though there will be some warm if hot spells sunshine in if not hot spells of sunshine in between. and looking at the bigger pressure bigger picture, low pressure sits west uk . it's sits to the west of the uk. it's drawing and humid drawing in that hot and humid air the continent, air from the near continent, allowing those shower to allowing those shower clouds to develop. thunderstorm forms some localised disruption and possible over the coming days . possible over the coming days. looking at the rest of saturday, we can see those thundery showers pushing north across parts of england into scotland, merging give some long spells merging to give some long spells of heavy rain, some localised flooding is possible, but then clearer skies follow behind. most places dry to end the night. temperatures, though, quite uncomfortable for sleeping, particularly in the east, i7 sleeping, particularly in the east, 17 or 18 degrees as a

minimum. a little fresher across the west . so a minimum. a little fresher across the west. so a bright minimum. a little fresher across the west . so a bright start for the west. so a bright start for many, though. rain still clearing northern scotland and another area of heavy rain, perhaps as well, pushes perhaps thundery as well, pushes into england. and into south—east england. and then generally for most, it's a day of spells and day of sunny spells and scattered showers. showers most frequent across western parts of the particularly northern the uk, particularly northern ireland, wales, midlands, ireland, wales, the midlands, south west england. some thunderstorms here, thunderstorms developing here, hail, gusty winds, some localised flooding is possible. so do take care and temperatures on the warm side, but a little lower than saturday. those thundery showers continue to push north through the evening so we could see some localised disruption before these clear and ease away as we head into the early hours. so again, for many it will be a dry night with plenty of clear skies , but it plenty of clear skies, but it will keep temperatures up despite this 14 or 15 degrees as a minimum temperature across parts of england and wales. a little cooler across scotland where we have a little more cloud and rain . so it means a cloud and rain. so it means a sunny start to monday . for cloud and rain. so it means a sunny start to monday. for many of though, we do have rain of us, though, we do have rain clearing northern scotland once

again. then further showery again. and then further showery rain push in from rain starting to push in from the as we move through the the west as we move through the day and turns martin settled tuesday and wednesday. heavy and thundery temperatures thundery showers. temperatures starting feel fresher . starting to feel fresher. >> that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers . proud sponsors of boxed boilers. proud sponsors of weather on gb news news. well so this is gb news. >> welcome. if you just joined me, it's just coming up to 21 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. next, climate control. akua. up next, climate control. cheryl boswell. so on claims that cutting oil and gas production would be irresponsible as gas systems aren't developed enough as the government jumped the gun on its green that's the way green agenda, that's on the way after

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now shell boss van swan claims that cutting oil and gas production would be irresponsible as the switch to renewable energy isn't happening fast enough. he's also said that he wouldn't he wouldn't be economically viable during the cost of living crisis as it could cause energy bills to soar even further. now, this all comes as the world's saw the hottest recorded temperature earlier this week. so what do you think should government you think? should the government cut production to cut oil and gas production to help climate change? will it help climate change? or will it just the poorest just take make the poorest people poorer? people in society even poorer? or even is it even or will it even is it even relevant? will it even work ? relevant? will it even work? right. so joining to discuss, right. so joining me to discuss, bnan right. so joining me to discuss, brian he's engineer and brian catt. he's an engineer and physicist and also sean irish. he's from just stop oil. he's there from just stop oil. he's there from just stop oil. he's a spokesperson . right. so he's a spokesperson. right. so i'm going to start with you, bnan. i'm going to start with you, brian . cat okay. what he's doing brian. cat okay. what he's doing . hi. all right, brian okay. bnan . hi. all right, brian okay. brian so the shell boss has said that it won't we shouldn't do this irresponsible. talk to me about where you stand with it . about where you stand with it. >> well, it is a totally irresponsible. >> the world depends on fossil fuels for most of its energy.

about 85% of total world energy use is fossil fuels. >> um, even in the uk it's 73. >> um, even in the uk it's 73. >> um, even in the uk it's 73. >> um , and there's no way you >> um, and there's no way you can transition to renewables because there isn't enough renewable energy to replace that. >> so what are you going to transition mission to nuclear? >> well, they're not planning to build a lot of that any time sooi'i. 500“. >> soon. >> so it's a complete nonsense to must transition when to say we must transition when we haven't got anything to transition we haven't got anything to trarthatn shutting the >> that means shutting down the economy and going back to mediaeval economy and going back to me oh, val economy and going back to me oh, by way, it's not the >> oh, by the way, it's not the hottest week it's ever been. >> it was a lot warmer every summer during the egyptian and roman periods , two degrees roman periods, two degrees warmer now. warmer than now. >> complete nonsense. >> so that's complete nonsense. >> so that's complete nonsense. >> well, we'll check >> oh, well, well, we'll check our , but thank for our sources, but thank you for that, sean irish, just that, sean. sean irish, just stop oil. >> yeah , thank you for having me on. >> nana. so yeah, we are from just stop oil. we're demanding that the uk government new that the uk government end new fossil you fossil fuel licences. and you know, to extent know, brian is to an extent correct. government correct. the uk government at the putting in the the moment isn't putting in the replacements that we need. that is demanding is why we are demanding that they at the moment the uk

they do so at the moment the uk government is investing more into rosebank into fossil fuels. just rosebank alone will completely destroy our climate targets. you know , our climate targets. you know, uh, brian is a scientist, so i've heard . has he published any i've heard. has he published any credited papers since his career started in 1980? brian he asked you, have you published any accredited papers ? accredited papers? >> sorry. >> sorry. >> yes, i have . they're they're. >> yes, i have. they're they're. >> yes, i have. they're they're. >> they're out there on the web, one on energy and one on the volcanism and volcanism and its effects on the interglacial period, which currently in. >> well, so he has sean. he has sean. >> well, so he has sean. he has sean . so there you go. listen to sean. so there you go. listen to that. there's actually before that, earlier one. that. there's actually before tha let's earlier one. that. there's actually before tha let's let's, earlier one. that. there's actually before tha let's let's, let'slier one. that. there's actually before tha let's let's, let's just)ne. that. there's actually before tha let's let's, let's just 1968, >> let's let's, let's just 1968, i also published a paper on radiation physics health physics, radiation protection . physics, radiation protection. >> but i've been in industry most of the time. and what you don't do in industry is publish papers telling your competition don't do in industry is publish pape|you're1g your competition don't do in industry is publish pape|you're doing.�* competition don't do in industry is publish pape|you're doing. oh,npetition don't do in industry is publish pape|you're doing. oh, okay. on what you're doing. oh, okay. >> fair enough. so his answer to your question, sean. look sean, >> fair enough. so his answer to youaquestion, sean. look sean, >> fair enough. so his answer to youa laudable sean. look sean, >> fair enough. so his answer to youa laudable aim. look sean, >> fair enough. so his answer to youa laudable aim. nobody's n, it's a laudable aim. nobody's disagreeing with your but disagreeing with your aim, but it hasn't. the boss has got a point that what you're pushing

for and why you're pushing for it in this way, we're already going anyway. but as far going there anyway. but as far as we go too as we can. but if we go too quickly, won't beneficial quickly, it won't be beneficial to going to anybody. we're not going to do it's not going to work. do it. it's not going to work. >> think shell has >> well, i think shell has a vested interest making sure vested interest in making sure we stay away the fossil vested interest in making sure we sté stay ay the fossil vested interest in making sure we sté stay ay fossila fossil vested interest in making sure we sté stay ay fossil fuels.l fuels, stay with fossil fuels. of currently right. of course, he's currently right. again, government not again, the uk government is not investing as it should in renewables. uk government is renewables. the uk government is signed the energy charter signed up to the energy charter , which means money to , which means adding money to the industry. loses , which means adding money to the be industry. loses , which means adding money to the be matched dustry. loses , which means adding money to the be matched with y. loses , which means adding money to the be matched with taxpayer will be matched with taxpayer money and that completely money and that is completely wrong . we need wrong. we need to be incentivising the free market by pulling away from these deals and actually allowing green energy survive and thrive . we energy to survive and thrive. we should be allowing companies to use the fossil fuel use renewables at the market rate, which means pulling out of these things , a wind, tide, solar, things, a wind, tide, solar, these are all cheaper 2 to 3 times cheaper. currently at the moment , nine times cheaper. currently at the moment, nine times cheaper at the height of the energy crisis, if we pulled from these if we pulled away from these things and actually let the free market decide, would market decide, then we would be in place than in a much better place than currently what we've got. >> well , that is of

>> brian. brian well, that is of course rubbish . course rubbish. >> the cheapest by far or cheapest. >> not by far cheapest by a reasonable margin of lifetime cost is nuclear well known . cost is nuclear well known. >> all you do is go to the iea and look at their regularly published every five years review of the cost of energy. um, and the only thing you can replace fossil use with the 73% that even we have in the uk is with nuclear because renewables are simply not there's not enough energy in renewables to actually provide the energy we need. currently 330 terawatt hours never mind the powering cars and heating homes, there just isn't enough energy . so and just isn't enough energy. so and it's more expensive , by the way, it's more expensive, by the way, definitely to say that what i said at the first in the beginning, go and look at the actual numbers. they're just cherry picking. if you look at the actual cost, the best thing to do with all this is to let the market decide, as he says, take all subsidies from take all subsidies away from everything . if people have to everything. if people have to borrow money up front, as you do with nuclear, because it's quite expensive one, then

expensive to build one, but then it for next to it runs for 60 years for next to nothing , then you might to nothing, then you might have to balance out the fiscal equation, but actual , you know, actual but no actual, you know, actual subsidy at all. then let the market decide. >> i think you make an interesting point, but the majority of climate scientists disagree with you. the ipcc reports disagree with you. the united nations disagrees with you.the united nations disagrees with you. the international energy agency disagrees with you. you know, we are saying these are what these are saying, that we need and need to immediately invest and start renewable start getting into renewable energy. that is a given, even if we started with nuclear, now you're nuclear physicist. you know planning to know yourself from planning to building is about 20 years. and then from build another 20 years is what it takes to go carbon neutral. haven't got that neutral. we haven't got that type of time. we have got time to give windmills chance to to give windmills a chance to respond said respond to what you said briefly, about briefly, brian, you've got about 20s . briefly, brian, you've got about 2050kay, well, it takes seven >> okay, well, it takes seven years to build a nuclear power station. have no remit station. the ipcc have no remit to talk about energy . they don't to talk about energy. they don't understand it and just saying we should do it when it can't work is bonkers . you you don't go and

is bonkers. you you don't go and do something which you know is economic suicide . economic suicide. >> you accept that we're in a climate crisis . climate crisis. >> there is climate crisis . i >> there is no climate crisis. i suggest you look at the clinton declaration . you might declaration. you might understand about it . understand a bit more about it. okay. >> so you disagree with the ipcc, of ipcc, the majority of scientists. that's scientists. so i think that's a good good to know good you know, it's good to know where from, that where you're coming from, that you disagree with science. well, you disagree with science. well, you group of 1500 you do belong to a group of 1500 scientists absolutely scientists who absolutely disagree with this because it's not wrong. >> stack up. there's >> it doesn't stack up. there's no support the no evidence to support the claims of ipcc. it's all claims of the ipcc. it's all made models , not real. made in models, not real. >> well, can i just very briefly ask then, sean, are you ask you then, sean, are you happy the that one of happy with the fact that one of the suggesting the things that's suggesting was to pylons over to build a load of pylons over 100 miles worth of pylons to support the whole of support the whole idea of electricity and everything powered electricity? i mean, powered by electricity? i mean, surely that's damaging to the environment. does have to environment. pylon does have to be built to supply energy anyway , regardless energy they're , regardless of energy they're offering to do that. i mean, surely quite detrimental offering to do that. i mean, su the quite detrimental offering to do that. i mean, su the environment.etrimental offering to do that. i mean, su the environment.etmeantal offering to do that. i mean, su the environment.etmean ,il to the environment. i mean, you're with that? you're comfortable with that? i'm not familiar with what you're talking about. >> last last week >> nana so last well, last week then papers, were then in the papers, they were saying starmer

then in the papers, they were sayi of starmer then in the papers, they were sayi of his starmer then in the papers, they were sayi of his plans starmer then in the papers, they were sayi of his plans was starmer then in the papers, they were sayi of his plans was they'rer one of his plans was they're going hundreds going to have hundreds of miles of pylons. >> is pylons hundreds and thousands. >> no, no, no. >> it was hundreds. i didn't say thousands, got thousands, but we've already got thousands, but we've already got thous.well, they're going to yeah, well, they're going to put some to support some more up to support your, your of this brian, your idea of this energy. brian, briefly have to briefly to you, you have to triple if you wanted to electrify transport well, not lorries, because that really doesn't work. >> wanted to electrify >> if you wanted to electrify most transport heating , then most transport and heating, then you would have to triple the electricity supply in the uk. to do that, you'd have to build three much grid three times as much grid capacity. that's not just capacity. and that's not just the pylons. they'd have to dig up of the built up the whole of the built environment out all the environment and pull out all the transformers that are in people's gardens and around people's back gardens and around the poles the the place up on poles in the country. every everything has to be three times bigger. the transformers, underground transformers, the underground cables in cities and the pylons. >> well, listen, none it >> well, listen, none of it sounds brian, thank >> well, listen, none of it sourvery brian, thank >> well, listen, none of it sourvery much. brian, thank >> well, listen, none of it sourvery much. engineerhank >> well, listen, none of it sourvery much. engineer ipsis you very much. engineer ipsis and sean irish from just and also sean irish from just oil. thank you so much. this is gb news on the way. political spotlight . i'll be joined spotlight. i'll be joined by former mp simon danczuk former labour mp simon danczuk to talk about his life and career politics. stay tuned.

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have been protesting against plans to house asylum seekers on a barge in dorset. >> it follows reports that the bibby stockholm, which can accommodate 500 people, could arrive this week. both stand up to racism, dorset and no to the barge group. don't want it moored at portland port as part of the government's plan to reduce costs by moving migrants out of hotel rooms . the bbc is out of hotel rooms. the bbc is reportedly investigating a claim that one of its well known presenters paid a teenager for explicit pictures. it's alleged that the man paid more than £35,000 for the images with the sun , saying that the young sun, saying that the young person was 17 years old. in a statement , the bbc said it takes statement, the bbc said it takes any allegations very seriously and will act on any information that comes to light. and will act on any information that comes to light . the well, that comes to light. the well, you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , gbnews.com. now let's let's get straight back to nana .

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on gb news the people's channel. britain is watching . britain is watching. >> welcome back. 37 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. don't forget as well , you can download the gb news app , you can download the gb news app and check out all the programs here on the channel. now, portland locals continue to voice their anger at a plan to house asylum seekers on their doorstep. two protesters are taking place to protests are taking place to protests are taking place to protests are taking place on the same day, with residents fearing the conditions on the migrant barge are inadequate. now, one community group thinks the barge

might have negative impact on might have a negative impact on local as the bibby local services as the bibby stockholm, which a lot of people have been talking about. now it's going to house 500 illegal immigrants and it could arrive as this weekend. and as early as this weekend. and that after record 686 that comes after a record 686 people crossed the channel in small boats yesterday. so it shows no sign of abating. that bnngs shows no sign of abating. that brings the total for this year to more than 12,000 already. so joining me now is gb news southwest of england reporter jeff moody . jeff, you are there. jeff moody. jeff, you are there. oh, gosh, it's raining badly. i have the protesters dispersed. i bet they have first sign of rain out of their . out of their. >> yes, they have . >> yes, they have. >> yes, they have. >> they have dispersed there is nobody complaining right now . nobody complaining right now. >> but a couple of hours ago , >> but a couple of hours ago, things were very tense. they were very angry on both sides of the argument. the bbc , stockholm the argument. the bbc, stockholm at the moment is still in falmouth . the home office is falmouth. the home office is being very cagey about when the move will take place , but it is move will take place, but it is expected to be in the next couple of days. we know that the barge out the dry dock

barge is now out of the dry dock andifs barge is now out of the dry dock and it's into a wet dock, which means that the refurbishments have it is ready have been done and it is ready to arrive here in portland. so they're expecting it over the next couple of days . the welcome next couple of days. the welcome they'll receive isn't going to be too friendly in places. there were two rival will march kyrees. i hope you can hear me under all of this rain and it really is bad . there were two really is bad. there were two rival marches going on today. firstly there's the node to the barge side now. no, to the barge . say that there's a couple of reasons why they don't want the barge here. firstly, they say, well, look, there's going to be 500 men on their own away 500 young men on their own away from home with a free pass into portland and into weymouth. we don't know who these people are. we don't know what they're capable know what capable of. we don't know what if what criminal record they have, if any. we don't know who anything about them. and so that in itself is a concern. secondly people say, well, look, we are in the middle of a huge cost of living crisis , which has bitten

living crisis, which has bitten particularly hard down here in portland . it's not portland. it's not a particularly wealthy area and services , public services are services, public services are really stretched to the limit. there are two gps and some people are saying, well, you know, they haven't been able to get an appointment for months know, they haven't been able to get monthsintment for months know, they haven't been able to get monthsintm�*monthsnonths know, they haven't been able to get monthsintm�*monthsnontlthen and months and months and then suddenly reading about suddenly they're reading about all benefits that these all of these benefits that these asylum get, asylum seekers will get, including free health care and all sorts of other things. and they're saying, look, it's just not . but then there's the not fair. but then there's the other side that the saying they're the stand up to racism side. who are saying, well, look, we don't want the barge here either , but our reasons are here either, but our reasons are different . we think that it is different. we think that it is inhumane to put 2 to 3 asylum seekers into one room the size of a prison cell they call it the prison barge. they say that these people have fled persecution and that they should be welcomed with open arms and they accuse the other side of being racist and that's the

problem. and that's the sad thing about it, that this device hides communities. we saw it in newquay where a reported quite extensive when the beresford hotel in newquay was open to asylum seekers and it really did divided the community. it divided the community. it divided the community. it divided the people into those that support it and those that didn't . and the rhetoric from didn't. and the rhetoric from the two sides became more and more heated as time went on. and that's the danger here, that people are saying they don't want the barge, but then they're calling each other racists , calling each other racists, they're calling each other fascists , and they're not fascists, and they're not actually getting to the nub of the argument . and a lot of the argument. and a lot of people express to me what a shame it was today that the two marches wanting the same outcome couldn't march together . how couldn't march together. how they had to have to distinct sides. and i think that that is what this situation does, is it forces a divide amongst communities, amongst friends,

port island is not a particularly diverse place . in particularly diverse place. in fact, it's not a diverse place at all. so suddenly adding 500 people from a different community, a different culture into that mix is going to cause problems at the best of times. now it's a case of, well, they're definitely coming. the barge will be here in the next couple of days . how the local couple of days. how the local residents react when there are 500 young men wandering the streets. we don't know , but streets. we don't know, but we'll soon find out. >> well, it's interesting, isn't it? because basically neither of them want the barge, but one side wants to make themselves sound about not wanting the sound nice about not wanting the barge, side are barge, and the other side are just about it. just being honest about it. listen, you so much. listen, thank you so much. it's really good to talk to you, geoff. to speak you. geoff. good to speak to you. that's there. that's jeff moody. he's there. with to the bibby with regard to the bibby stockholm. he's there in portland. right? stockholm. he's there in portla stay right? stockholm. he's there in portla stay now, 'ight? stockholm. he's there in portla stay now, this? stockholm. he's there in portla stay now, this story well, stay tune. now, this story really caught my eye and i wanted to share with you wanted to share it with you because study by wanted to share it with you bec uka study by wanted to share it with you bec uk dementia study by wanted to share it with you bec uk dementia research dy by the uk dementia research institute at cardiff university, smartwatches of i don't

smartwatches of which i don't have , can identify parkinson's have, can identify parkinson's seven years before symptoms surface in people who develop the disease. so there was a trial . over 100,000 people took trial. over 100,000 people took part with these watches and they were able to detect that people's movements during light activity slowed down before diagnosis . and that includes diagnosis. and that includes tasks like making the bed or cleaning . now, although cleaning. now, although smartwatches cannot predict who will get parkinson's, it can help to identify those who are more at risk of the disease. that's interesting. so joining me now to discuss is dr. rafid al mahfouda . so dr. rafid , talk al mahfouda. so dr. rafid, talk to me about this then. so because i slow down, if i'm making a bed, if i'm exhausted, like today , i did my heat yoga, like today, i did my heat yoga, i get home, i'm exhausted, i'm going to make the bed more slowly. how can the smartwatch work i don't. i don't work that out? i don't. i don't understand . understand. >> well, i think you raise a good afternoon. >> first of all, i think you raise a very good point in that what you've read as an article is describing a screening tool. so in medicine, we generally

have multiple types of investigations and some of these investigations and some of these investigations are aimed at population patterns and aimed at screening . so what what they screening. so what what they should be is sensitive to picking up a potential problem, but they're not necessarily specific in diagnosis, diagnosing what the actual problem is . problem is. >> so in this case, in this study , as you've mentioned study, as you've mentioned briefly , is a reliance on briefly, is a reliance on smartwatch , which obviously is smartwatch, which obviously is ipsis , that there's a new ipsis, that there's a new technology which is being used in medicine in this way and the smartwatches are analysed in gates. so i guess that's a specific example. a specific measurement which which probably differentiates what, what you've mentioned as being tired overall. so it's analysing data , the type of gait analysis will be looking at the speed , the be looking at the speed, the speed of acceleration, the time, the swing time and the step length. so there's specific

parameters within gates which is which are being analysed and when then that is with the use of ai and modelling, what, what the study group have aimed to do is, is diagnose which patients have parkinson's or are at risk of developing parkinson's and parkinson's just for the viewers, is fairly common amongst the neurodegenerative diseases , which means diseases diseases, which means diseases which develop with time in some patients, possibly 1 in 37 is estimated as in the uk, may develop some form of parkinson's, where the cells degenerate or die in the nervous system. and these are specific cells which do or are responsible for specific fine tuning of movements. responsible for specific fine tuning of movements . and when tuning of movements. and when those neurotransmitters are lost , then certain symptoms become apparent and in the case of parkinson's, those symptoms will include things like stiffness or

include things like stiffness or in what we in medical terms, will use is bradykinesia, which means slowness of movements . um, means slowness of movements. um, in addition to tremor, those are the pretty much the hallmarks of , of parkinson's disease clinically . and the aim of this clinically. and the aim of this watch is to , to provide watch is to, to provide a diagnostic tool for that. so as you said, it was over a roughly over around 100,000 people involved . the study arm in terms involved. the study arm in terms of number of patients with parkinson's is not a large number overall. so around 150, 100 to 150. so they had two arms within their study where it did correlate the data that they had, did correlate with a problem with gait in patients who had parkinson's and as you said, patients who then went on to develop parkin signs. so i guess what it does provide is an exciting possible screening tool . and i think smartwatches, which i think to put the conversation a bit wider with, i

may provide populations or population based screening tools to pick things up, not just parkinson's could be stroke , it parkinson's could be stroke, it could be many other things looking at vital signs, etcetera. so i think there's definitely something in this for the future , for the future of the future, for the future of medicine . but for the specific medicine. but for the specific study, as as we've just mentioned . mentioned. >> but doctor, we think once they've discovered it and they think, okay, so you're susceptible, it's likely to be you. is there anything to help you? i don't know you? because i don't know whether to seven whether i'd want to know seven years earlier going to years earlier if i'm going to find going to get find out that i'm going to get this on. but i just this thing later on. but i just find out seven earlier. find out seven years earlier. but nothing to but there's nothing there to actually is there actually help me. is there anything how has the anything there now? how has the treatment progressed with the condition ? condition? >> i think it's another fair point. but in general. >> i think it's another fair point. but in general . well, any point. but in general. well, any any management, even when there's no cure between inverted commas, if you like, for a condition, there will be management options and they may be to help the symptoms of.

moreover with these type of conditions because it's generally a very gradual, slow process, it may be very late down the line when a specific reason is diagnosed , which can reason is diagnosed, which can lead to depher faculties, social difficulties and effect on quality of life. so recognition , etcetera. so this so there is potential to sort of help people. >> if you do find out you've got it before. listen, we're running out of time. dr. garford beck exactly right. thank you so much. that's dr. rafid al—mufid .thank much. that's dr. rafid al—mufid . thank you much. she's . thank you very much. she's a consultant neurosurgeon and complex it complex spine surgeon. wow it must be a very clever man. i'd like to know stuff like that, but i think that's gone. it's gone. never going that gone. i'm never going to be that clever listen, i'm clever right. well, listen, i'm very excited to announce that it's political it's time for political spotlight . it's joined spotlight. it's and i'm joined by a former labour mp. his name is simon dan wootton. i hope i've said that right. he was elected in 2010 represent the elected in 2010 to represent the constituent under constituent ac of rochdale under gordon brown. he's got considerably more hair in that picture than he does here. i'm sorry about that, simon. just sorry about that, simon. i just

thought, is that? is that thought, who is that? is that the same person? the same? the same person? is it the same? oh, even more hair oh, there he is. even more hair there can under this. there. i can talk under this. i'm tell you i'm bald, simon. i'll tell you that. served that. now. now, simon served as the for rochdale for the labour mp for rochdale for over years. he's most over seven years. he's most notable spearheading an notable for spearheading an investigation historic investigation into historic allegations abuse allegations of child abuse against . and they against politicians. and they even an expose entitled even wrote an expose entitled smile for the camera the double life of cyril smith . for his life of cyril smith. for his efforts, he was awarded a campaigner of the year. well, i'm pleased to say that simon, as joins me now. as you know, joins me now. simon, very much. as you know, joins me now. sin nice very much. as you know, joins me now. sin nice to very much. as you know, joins me now. sin nice to be very much. as you know, joins me now. sin nice to be here.ery much. >> nice to be here. >> nice to be here. >> you. simon let's talk >> thank you. simon let's talk about you then, your political career. politics? >> yeah, i, i from a very >> yeah, i, i come from a very poor one parent family. >> social justice was always >> so social justice was always very important for me and my grandmother, although not in politics, used to talk a lot about politics. so that's first piqued my interest. and it went from there, really. i attended my first labour party meeting when i was 15in padiham in lancashire . that put me off, lancashire. that put me off, actually did it. yeah. truly awful. >> surprised. then you joined them. what the hell is going on? well and then. >> but i've joined five years

later then became later and then became a councillor i was 27 and so councillor when i was 27 and so on and forth . yeah. on and so forth. yeah. >> have you found the >> so how have you found the whole political scene at the moment? hearing things moment? we're hearing things like so you'll go like this a lot of so you'll go to westminster, you'll spend time westminster. time in westminster. we're heanng time in westminster. we're hearing women hearing a lot of women complaining about the environment westminster. environment in westminster. arade dam is it really as male child and the women are child and toxic as the women are saying? of women are saying? a lot of women are saying? a lot of women are saying that they felt that there was lot of, you was very there was a lot of, you know, touching doing was very there was a lot of, you know, of touching doing was very there was a lot of, you know, of thingshing doing was very there was a lot of, you know, of things is|g doing was very there was a lot of, you know, of things is that doing all sorts of things is that westminster peculiar workplace. >> there's no doubt about that . >> there's no doubt about that. i enjoy working in in i didn't enjoy working in in parliament, particularly . i didn't enjoy working in in parliament, particularly. i'd come from a business background , which is quite unusual for a labour mp, and i'm not overly partisan . and so i did find it partisan. and so i did find it difficult . i like to make difficult. i like to make decisions based on what i think is best for the country rather than what i think is best for the i very the labour party. so i was very critical of ed miliband and very extremely critical of jeremy corbyn, the financial times described me as his his fiercest critic , so that didn't win me critic, so that didn't win me

any favours in westminster or within the labour party. but and it is a strange working environment. i think it needs radical reform, to be quite honest . honest. >> i think it does as well. one of the things that strikes me is the big of holiday type the big sort of holiday type thing. the weeks or thing. the six weeks off or however long is that people however long it is that people get in the summer coming up to the that's the recess. do you think that's something that we should be carrying or do you carrying on doing now, or do you think just get on think mps should just get on with the job? >> yeah, should be >> yeah, i think it should be more like a conventional business think more like a conventional bus hours think more like a conventional bus hours are think more like a conventional bus hours are peculiar think more like a conventional bus hours are peculiar. think more like a conventional bus hours are peculiar . yeah,; the hours are peculiar. yeah, there should be more conventional, you there should be more conventional , you know, there should be more conventional, you know, 9 to 5 sort of hours and you're right to say going into recess while some mps will get back to the constituencies and work heavily , some clearly don't. so if you do the job properly as a member of parliament, like i like to think i did then, it's a very arduous job and really taxing. but very rewarding. but if you don't do it properly , then you don't do it properly, then you can be quite laid back and not do very much . do very much. >> hm it's interesting that a lot of politicians come to politics, especially with the new sort of generation of people

that are entering it without actually having any real actually having done any real other things beforehand. what did do before you came into did you do before you came into it? >> yeah, so i'd left school at 16 with no real qualification . i 16 with no real qualification. i worked in a factory for several years and went to college at night, gained the qualifications i should have got when i was at school , and then i went i should have got when i was at school, and then i went and did a degree as a mature student and carried on working whilst i got the degree. and then i've added a degree in sociology, which i thoroughly enjoy . and then thoroughly enjoy. and then i eventually set up a market research and communications agency based in manchester and did that for several years. but unusual for a labour mp to be in business. >> yeah, yeah. those seem and looking at the labour party now, do you, do you obviously you're going to say positive things about them, i like the fact about them, but i like the fact that that when about them, but i like the fact that were that when about them, but i like the fact that were that at when about them, but i like the fact that were that you hen there were leaders that you didn't were, didn't particularly think were, were me, were were worthy. and for me, i didn't think jeremy corbyn was particularly good either. everyone because everyone voted, i think, because he wasn't because of him. people voted conservative party voted for the conservative party even really want even if they didn't really want to. say if you,

to. what would you say if you, as you look at the labour party under sir keir starmer's leadership, i left labour leadership, i left the labour party in 2017 because of jeremy corbyn, resigned from the corbyn, so i resigned from the labour party. >> keir is a nice guy. i know him. he's not my kind of politics. i'm sort of traditional labour politics. keir is sort of soft left. i would describe him as that whole nonh would describe him as that whole north london sort of labor party, which i don't really buy into , so i haven't decided how into, so i haven't decided how i will vote at the next general election. i think they need a stronger leader. david miliband would have always been the best. >> why did they pick ed? it's like pick better looking one like pick the better looking one not horrible. he's not being horrible. david he's a nice you know, nice looking chap, but you know, when know how people are when you know how people are people quite fickle, aren't people are quite fickle, aren't they? one. you they? so you need one. you had a more tony blair like charisma about him, didn't you? >> pick? ed is just >> how do they pick? ed is just a mistake. david should have a big mistake. david should have run stronger and harder run a stronger and harder campaign . think thought he campaign. i think he thought he had bag but had it in the bag, but his brother bizarre situation brother quite bizarre situation where brothers are running against each other pipped him at the post, but that from there on

in the labour party really has faced challenges and problems and i don't think they've got it in the bag at the next general election necessarily. >> that. do >> i'll ask you that. yeah. do you tories could you think the tories could could if rishi sunak because he's going steady path. it's going on a steady path. it's steady, steady, steady. even though not much though he's you know, not much charisma, forward. >> i think he is an and >> yes, i think he is an and whilst he doesn't excite everybody , he's not boris everybody, he's not boris johnson he is quite johnson is he. he is quite managerial, he's very managerial, but he's very focussed on delivering for the people and i think that will be appreciated . and i some of appreciated. and i think some of the policies that is coming the policies that he is coming forward that north london forward with that north london approach on banning oil exploration in the north sea. et cetera. i think a big mistake. i think it could be quite dangerous. >> well, listen, i will >> well, listen, simon, i will talk forever talk to talk to you forever and talk to you on that. but we're you for ages on that. but we're running time. time running out of time. that's time and down. he is a labour mp. this is gb news. we're live on tv, digital radio. tv, online and digital radio. more come the next hour . more to come in the next hour. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxed solar proud sponsors of

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in dorset . it follows reports in dorset. it follows reports that the bibby stockholm home, which can accommodate 500 people, could arrive this week. both stand up to racism. dorset and no to the barge group. do not want it moored at portland port as part of the government's plan to reduce costs by moving migrants out of hotel rooms. no to the barge group organised by alex bailey, says he won't stop fighting to continue to our campaign open letters , we are campaign open letters, we are going to talk to them in person. >> if we can next week. there is an open council meeting with dorset we are going to dorset council we are going to attend. we for today. >> then are going to make our voices heard and the people of portland, the people of weymouth and the people of dorset . and the people of dorset. >> the bbc is reported investigating a claim that one of its well known presenter paid a teenager for explicit pictures. it's alleged that the man paid more than £35,000 for the images with the sun , saying

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is the gb news on tv, online and on digital radio . i'm at nana on digital radio. i'm at nana akua. on digital radio. i'm at nana akua . now, you cannot get rid of akua. now, you cannot get rid of racism with racism . this morning racism with racism. this morning i read that white people have been excluded from weekend literacy classes in north london because the lessons were for children from black and black heritage families . here we go heritage families. here we go again. so basically parents at schools in north london have been told that the saturday school near academy places will only be funded for black people or those of black heritage . i or those of black heritage. i mean, the reason to accelerate progress in reading and writing whilst also developed the children's knowledge of black history and culture. let me translate that we are now indoctrinating our kids with our division and our racism . for division and our racism. for goodness sake . i mean, surely goodness sake. i mean, surely you would teach every body the history, but not the skewed version of the slave trade which portrayed black people as victims of oppression . black victims of oppression. black people were slave owners as well . by the not teach them

. by the way, why not teach them the history of mankind ? teach the history of mankind? teach all of the children irrespective of colour that mankind came from africa. so if that's true, then ultimately we all have black heritage. but oh no, they want to. so the seeds of oppression and division early so it turns into something as divisive as this in adulthood. you may remember a few weeks ago i wrote and spoke about the theatre royal stratford east, who were planning something of a similar ilk, a black only performance of tambo and bones, which explores 300 years of african american history. well, this week they held their black only performance. it had been open to all, but on wednesday, they had all, but on wednesday, they had a black out event where for one night only white people were advised not to attend . the advised not to attend. the reason organisers insist, was to create a safe, private space for an all black identifying audience free from the white gaze. audience free from the white gaze . now, i can't actually gaze. now, i can't actually believe that they felt it was

okay to use that phrase as the theatre claimed that no one is excluded from the play . but it excluded from the play. but it also made it pretty clear that white people were not welcome. this is what people said as they were going in to watch . well were going in to watch. well i think the biggest importance is that we need space for ourselves. >> you know, just to feel free and exist. is that what they'd call the white gaze ? i think so. call the white gaze? i think so. i think that's part of it. >> what do you think of that term ? term? >> i mean, it's accurate . i >> i mean, it's accurate. i think spaces where people can just be free, be open and feel comfortable and necessary for all communities. >> what's wrong with white people ? people? >> what's wrong with them ? >> what's wrong with them? there's not it's not that there's anything wrong with white people. i think it's in the same way that like an lgbtq+ space is for lgbtq+ people. >> his famous quote, of course, where he says, i had a dream that my children would be judged on the content of their character not colour

character and not the colour of their was saying was that >> what he was saying was that all should be judged all people should be judged evenly, we are not judged evenly, but we are not judged evenly, but we are not judged evenly in the traditional theatre spaces as well. how are black people treated unfairly in theatre? >> can you give some examples ? >> can you give some examples? >> can you give some examples? >> i'm not here to go into that now because this is a very casual interview of casual interview outside of another and i have many , another event and i have many, many experiences of being treated as other within the spaces i am working by people who are in the audience . who are in the audience. >> i'm not talking about theatre and audience members by audience members. >> so what would they do? >> so what would they do? >> i'm not. >> just i'm not. >> just i'm not. >> no, no, no. this is not >> no, no, no, no. this is not honounng >> no, no, no, no. this is not honouring my experience to come and trivialise it by and try and trivialise it by just some short. just giving you some short. >> trivialising. >> i'm not trivialising. >> i'm not trivialising. >> would. i'm not >> i'm saying it would. i'm not saying how saying you are, but you know how patronising . patronising. >> so once again, white people and this time primary school aged children are being excluded from an educational opportunity which describes its services as a saturday school for children of african and caribbean descent. i find it quite chilling, but it's hardly surprising that this victim mentality is becoming the norm

when you've got a load of po faced, left leaning individuals and organisations turning up the woke dial to correct wrongdoings like the nonsense that is reparations for links to slavery by the likes of laura trevelyan with a pathetic offer to pay a measly sum to make up for all her family and their so—called slave owning wrongs . the money slave owning wrongs. the money she cobbled together just over 100 grand for the people of grenada amounted to less than a pound per head . and while she pound per head. and while she wrote her story in the woke of woke newspapers, the guardian, it turned out that founders of the rag had links of their own brands like ben and jerry's , brands like ben and jerry's, displaying their woke credentials by tweeting on july the american the 4th. that's american independence day, that american return that america returns all stolen land. but a native american chief in vermont claimed that ben and jerry's hq is actually on stolen indigenous land. excuse white people is fuelled by ideologies like critical race theory that paint white people as the oppressors with white privilege and as such

must acknowledge the that they are inherently racist and that black people are victims of their oppression. people buying into ideologies like this are doing more damage. i mean, have they forgotten the words of martin luther king? a world where we are judged by the content of our character, not the colour of our skin? you cannot get rid of racism with racism . i'm before we get stuck racism. i'm before we get stuck into the debate , here's what into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm it time the bbc i'm asking is it time the bbc stop expecting the public to pall-7 stop expecting the public to pay? former bbc chairman richard sharp just suggested that sharp has just suggested that the wealthier households might sharp has just suggested that the wea pay r households might sharp has just suggested that the wea pay more ;eholds might sharp has just suggested that the wea pay more for)lds might sharp has just suggested that the wea pay more for the might sharp has just suggested that the wea pay more for the licence have to pay more for the licence fee, doubling the current system regressive, should we be regressive, but should we be paying regressive, but should we be paying it at all for 50 paying for it at all for 50 years? royal roundup time royal biographer levin be biographer angela levin will be in to give us the in the studio to give us the latest from behind the palace walls the menu. according to walls on the menu. according to angela, has angela, princess catherine has transformed the front in front of the public's eye from a very

shy royal powerhouse . but how shy royal powerhouse. but how has she done it? and then at five, it's this week's difficult conversation on are we on the bnnk conversation on are we on the brink of a breakthrough for alzheimer's? a momentous drug has given one family hope after david's son developed seven years ago. stay tuned because we'll hear all from david, who'll be joining me and his wife. and they'll be sharing their story later. that's coming up in the next hour. so tell me what think, aslef on what you think, aslef on everything discussing. everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet at . gb news. write tweet me at. gb news. write let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel broadcast and columnist lizzie cundy, also political commentator sam dowler holac he's finally managed to get out of everyone's shot . get out of everyone's shot. >> but yeah, all about me. >> but yeah, all about me. >> it's not about you. you managed to get into everything like like water. >> he gets everywhere. >> he gets everywhere. >> but it looks like we all got the blue memo and we did very good. >> i good. »i >> i know i've dressed as the

wimbledon >> i know i've dressed as the wimithought today i'll >> i thought today i'll definitely score points off. >> you got a saucy, a saucy one. >> however, lizzie sauce, a saucy umpire . saucy umpire. >> so what do you think then? okay, so we're at it again. we had whole on had this whole thing on wednesday, which i found abhorrent, saying , abhorrent, where you're saying, oh, rich. i'm oh, the white gays rich. i'm like say that? you like, how can you say that? you cannot say the white gays. it's aninqu cannot say the white gays. it's an insult it. so what is that? i mean, you're doing it, the two of stop stop at of you. stop it. stop looking at me. it. stop it! back but me. stop it. stop it! back but what? what do you think ? so now what? what do you think? so now we've getting in on we've got schools getting in on the and sort of saying, the action and sort of saying, well, saturday schools black well, saturday schools for black and cara plebeian people and things like that. well i know quite white gays actually i >> -- >> no, but see, next one now, bum bum . but yeah, well, on that bum bum. but yeah, well, on that note, i. >> well, i kind of agree with somebody who was outside the theatre. >> it is i mean, obviously if you have an lgbtq space, you want to like they kept saying like , feel free, etcetera. like, feel free, etcetera. >> but obviously that's multiracial and, know , a multiracial and, you know, a multiracial and, you know, a multi gendered, etcetera. so it's and also like , you know, it's and also like, you know, like for example, i remember

being at a bar once and my sister and her husband couldn't come because wouldn't come in because they wouldn't allow because allow them to come in because they etcetera. allow them to come in because they i etcetera. allow them to come in because they i completely :cetera. allow them to come in because they i completely disagree >> and i completely disagree with i don't with that. so i think i don't know, it's a weird one because then you have obviously, you know, jewish only schools or religious schools particular, religious schools in particular, but can but obviously other people can go . go. >> so i think, you know, with education and with theatre, it should everybody . should be open to everybody. yeah.i should be open to everybody. yeah. i but maybe as a yeah. i mean, but maybe as a suggest option or something, i don't would, don't know. i mean like would, would what if, for example, there's a gang of mates who are all black and they have one white pal. >> like, white pal. » to white pal. >> to the ke, we're all white pal. >> to the theatre we're all white pal. >> to the theatre weyourll going to the theatre and you can't come. >> shouldn't. >> shouldn't. >> well, they that. for >> well, they said that. so for the performance the theatre performance they said that everyone's welcome, but they made it quite clear they want white they didn't want any white people gays people there. the white gays thing is a real put off right there. yeah. friends there. yeah. and your friends would whammies if they would be double whammies if they were the as were gay. and then the gays as well. exactly. were gay. and then the gays as wel but exactly. were gay. and then the gays as wel but you exactly. were gay. and then the gays as welbut you imagine if this was >> but you imagine if this was on the other foot and we were saying blacks. and i mean, saying no blacks. and i mean, i'm this is i mean one of your the interviewer there from gb news was what is wrong with white people and why are we

having this diversity ? see, having this diversity? see, i have worked so hard and with the football clubs to stop racism and we've come a long way in 20 years from when i was at the shed at chelsea with all the chanting everything else chanting and everything else we've and this is we've come so far, and this is just putting it backwards. and i don't understand they can don't understand how they can say this because as i said, if it's on other there it's on the other foot, there would total absolute rights would be a total absolute rights and uproar about it. would be a total absolute rights and uproar about it . and i think and uproar about it. and i think it's totally disgusting . and if it's totally disgusting. and if we're supposed to progress and learn, you know, banning from saturday school , you know, how saturday school, you know, how are children supposed to learn about history in the past and progress but also but also like like we were saying like a poor poorly educated people are you know, not just black know, they're not just black people. >> there lot of white people. >> thera lot of white people. >> thera lot lot of white people. >> thera lot of .ot of white people. >> thera lot of all)f white people. >> thera lot of all raceste people. >> thera lot of all races are people, a lot of all races are poorly so know, if poorly educated. so you know, if there's for anyone to there's a chance for anyone to get a get extra education on a saturday, surely should be saturday, surely that should be open all people in the area. open to all people in the area. >> why on colour >> why be judged on the colour of exactly equal? of your skin exactly equal? exactly this exactly why? why is this happening? if you're happening? and then if you're mixed race, what can you you can

only slightly you've got a choice, but you know you've got a choice. >> you can either go or not >> then you can either go or not go. but if you were more white and away and look, maybe you'd get away with your heritage and look, maybe you'd get away with then your heritage and look, maybe you'd get away with then this your heritage and look, maybe you'd get away with then this is your heritage and look, maybe you'd get away with then this is the jr heritage . but then this is the fundamental error with this, that if we are believe that if we are to believe science, that mankind came from africa, that africa, and it turns out that black women have the mitochondria their to mitochondria in their ba.2 to produce any type of human. apparently this what i've apparently this is what i've read. it read. if that being said, it means everybody has come means that everybody has come from africa. i would go with the science everybody has black science so everybody has black heritage. are they heritage. so why are they divisive , making so divisive divisive, making it so divisive and why are they educating the children separately? in my view, they're own they're indoctrinating their own racism onto children and racism onto the children and perpetuating the scenario of racism . racism. >> yes, and it is racism. but as a as a white female, if to i'm speak out about this, i feel a bit intimidated and silenced because they're going to actually think i'm racist because about because i'm speaking out about it. it's like i went to it. but it's like i went to i went to a private and went to a private school and it was very was very was very and it was very multicultural you and multicultural and, you know, and then then i remember then i went then i remember going university afterwards going to university afterwards and people were like, they were asking me what's it like?

asking me like, what's it like? >> like to know a >> what's it like to know a jewish etcetera. >> what's it like to know a jewand etcetera. >> what's it like to know a jewand i etcetera. >> what's it like to know a jewand i was etcetera. >> what's it like to know a jewand i was like, tera. >> what's it like to know a jewand i was like, how can you >> and i was like, how can you even that? even ask that? >> it's so ridiculous. unless >> it's so ridiculous. so unless unless with, unless you grow up with, you know, all know, seeing, seeing all colours, then, you know, then you retain some sort of you, you do retain some sort of some sort of racism matter, some sort of racism no matter, no where. no matter where. >> necessarily >> i don't necessarily agree with know, with that. i think, you know, some wouldn't see it some people just wouldn't see it as so you imagine you as anything. so you imagine you haven't grown with haven't grown up with other people different but people of different colours, but nobody's nobody's nobody's divided you or nobody's told a dodgy recollection of told you a dodgy recollection of the slave trade . that meant that the slave trade. that meant that black people were oppressed . black people were oppressed. nobody's that version nobody's told you that version of , so you don't any of events, so you don't know any of events, so you don't know any of you don't think of that. so you don't think anything. son, he's six now. anything. my son, he's six now. he's birthday he's six. he had his birthday last happy birthday . last year. happy birthday. >> happy birthday. >> happy birthday. >> oh , anyway, anyway, he >> oh, anyway, anyway, he doesn't know that his friends are different to him in any way, shape or form. >> so unless i tell him, he's not going to think that that's how be. how how it should be. that's how it should this this is a should be. not this is this is a primary kid. so these are primary school kid. so these are children creating children you're creating the division they're now division when they're young. now so that will perpetuate so that that will perpetuate into stupidness white into stupidness like the white gays, these are gays, which these these are adults that way, adults speaking in that way, having known the story and

martin luther king and everything . and they're everything. and they're perpetuating it. and it's almost everything. and they're peithough ng it. and it's almost everything. and they're peithough they and it's almost everything. and they're peithough they can'tit's almost everything. and they're peithough they can't signing)st as though they can't signing because as a as kid, you don't because as a as a kid, you don't see colour. >> friends. >> they're just your friends. it's it. it's nothing to do with it. colour come it colour should not come into it and have to we have to try to and we have to we have to try to really happen and we have to try and like said and move on as like you said before monologue, before in your monologue, as a human not as you know, as human race, not as you know, as you part. human race, not as you know, as youof part. human race, not as you know, as youof course, part. human race, not as you know, as youof course, there's been >> of course, there's been there's horrific there's been, you know, horrific stuff like, stuff in the past, like, you know, british know, with the british colonialism, but all colonialism, etcetera. but all over the world, with slavery all over the world, with slavery all over it's not it's over the world. so it's not it's not it's not reserved not you know, it's not reserved to one particular race at to just one particular race at all. we so we all. it is we should so we should because all came from all. it is we should so we sho sameecause all came from all. it is we should so we sho same place. all came from all. it is we should so we sho same place. we all came from all. it is we should so we sho same place. we allcame from all. it is we should so we sho same place. we all camefrom the same place. we all came from africa, as you said. so why why can't move can't we all move on? >> why they >> why can't why can't they educate kids with that? why, educate the kids with that? why, if was me and i was writing if it was me and i was writing the would if it was me and i was writing the it would if it was me and i was writing the it at would if it was me and i was writing the it at the would if it was me and i was writing the it at the history would start it at the history of mankind . would children mankind. i would let children understand came as mankind. i would let children und

not the children, that not educating the children, that they're educating them like not educating the children, that they'andiucating them like not educating the children, that they'and this:ing them like not educating the children, that they'and this isg them like not educating the children, that they'and this is whyem like not educating the children, that they'and this is why we .ike not educating the children, that they'and this is why we will this. and this is why we will have racism forever. >> we have to learn our >> we have to learn from our past mistakes racism. past mistakes with racism. and the way we can learn is by the only way we can learn is by knowing history and moving knowing the history and moving on. and also no, no, no, ho. 110. >> no. >> and ipsis . well, listen, we >> and ipsis. well, listen, we contacted the theatre for comment, but they haven't received a response yet. but they have previously said that tambo and bones staged at stratford is a bold new stratford east is a bold new play, a satire which actively explores it was to explores race and what it was to be what it is to be black. we've chosen to embrace this initiative performance initiative for one performance dunng initiative for one performance during long run during the play's month long run as space for black audiences as a space for black audiences to experience the as to experience the play as a community. on the theatre's website , it says that no one is website, it says that no one is excluded. and we did say that, well, this is gb news and gb news has reached out as well for comment. previously comment. and previously councillor brabazon from councillor zena brabazon from hanngey has councillor zena brabazon from haringey has told the haringey council has told the telegraph it has been a long recognised in haringey that there historic there is historic and established gap established attainment gap between african , black between black african, black canbbean between black african, black caribbean their white caribbean pupils and their white british peers. our schools here in haringey and the local

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pressure just sits to the west of allowing that warm to of us, allowing that warm air to come from near continent come up from the near continent and shower and developing those shower clouds and thunderstorms across and developing those shower clotuk and thunderstorms across and developing those shower clotuk righthunderstorms across and developing those shower clotuk right through:orms across and developing those shower clotuk right through the s across and developing those shower clotuk right through the rest 'oss and developing those shower clotuk right through the rest of; the uk right through the rest of the uk right through the rest of the weekend . and we still have the weekend. and we still have thundery across the thundery showers across the north this saturday north and east this saturday evening . could be local evening. could be some local disruption , some longer spells disruption, some longer spells of scotland , north—east of rain for scotland, north—east england time into the england for a time too, into the early but for many it early hours. but for many it will become quieter. there'll be clear spells, but still fairly warm and humid tonight, particularly east, lows particularly in the east, lows of 17 or degrees was the west of 17 or 18 degrees was the west will be a little fresher sunday morning. a bright start for many cloud and outbreaks of showery rain into southeast rain pushing into southeast england and the rain across scotland takes its to clear scotland takes its time to clear here. and then it's the day of sunny and showers . sunny spells and heavy showers. once more showers most frequent across western parts of the uk. some thunderstorms could lead to some local disruption , some local disruption, particularly parts of northern ireland, wales, southwest ireland, into wales, southwest england , too. and temperatures england, too. and temperatures overall a little lower compared to saturday highs around 25 or 26 celsius into the evening

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a performance where white people were attend and were urged not to attend and also the that a school also the fact that a school looked at, asked for black and canbbean looked at, asked for black and caribbean heritage pupils to come to the saturday school. let's see what you've been saying if white bloke saying. what if a white bloke turns with his black wife? turns up with his black wife? yeah, good question . ron says, yeah, good question. ron says, thank for being thank you all forjust being there and fighting for the issues other media outlets there and fighting for the issues tackle.er media outlets there and fighting for the issues tackle. melvina outlets there and fighting for the issues tackle. melvin says.ets will not tackle. melvin says your balanced view is so refreshing. racism refreshing. don't fight racism with . thank you very with racism. thank you very much, melvin. appreciate it. right. it's 27 minutes after 4:00. it's time now the 4:00. it's time now for the great british debate. nana great british debate. i'm nana akua. great british debate. i'm nana akua . i'm is time the akua. i'm asking, is it time the bbc stop expecting the to bbc stop expecting the public to pay 7 bbc stop expecting the public to pay ? former bbc chairman richard pay? former bbc chairman richard sharp has suggested that wealthier households might have to for the licence fee, to pay more for the licence fee, dubbing system dubbing the current system regressive . the licence fee is regressive. the licence fee is currently £159 and it's due to rise with inflation as in the previous in the coming years. the former bbc top dog said fees could be determined by a household levy based on the value someone's home or a tax value of someone's home or a tax on broadband bills. but should the public keep footing the bill? any case, could the bbc

bill? in any case, could the bbc turn into a subscription based model? the great model? surely so. for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, bbc? time asking, is the bbc? is it time for expecting us, for them to stop expecting us, the pay? so joining me the public to pay? so joining me now discuss, macshane , now to discuss, denis macshane, peter spencer, martin campbell, and also sarah—louise robertson. i'm going to start with you, martin. he's a former chief adviser to ofcom. martin is it time they stop expecting us to pay, time they stop expecting us to pay, find some other of pay, find some other way of funding themselves ? funding themselves? >> mean , richard sharp >> well, i mean, richard sharp is certainly right in saying that it is certainly right in saying thatitis is certainly right in saying that it is a debate for parliament. it's got to be debated. but, you know, the idea of means testing, i mean, there isn't a good way of means testing, but the whole problem with and i don't think the with that and i don't think the idea of a broadband tax is too bad, but i don't think the pubuc bad, but i don't think the public will accept it because the bbc are doing themselves no favours . i mean, they're losing favours. i mean, they're losing pubuc favours. i mean, they're losing public trust , just as each day public trust, just as each day goes by, you know , it's not just goes by, you know, it's not just the lineker thing. it's the increasing woke agenda . it's the increasing woke agenda. it's the way they're dismantling local

radio. the fact they've got no control over talent and the recruitment process is a joke. i don't think that they can take the public with them. and i think that's going to be the real problem . real problem. >> sarah lewis i disagree with you there. >> i think they can take the pubuc >> i think they can take the public with them. we're very lucky to have the bbc in this country to have such a great institution. >> it is the envy of other countries. the americans look at the bbc and they go, wow, how do you have such a brilliant state broadcaster ? broadcaster? >> we should be valuing them instead of tearing them down at every opportunity. >> they great value for money. >> if you were to look at what they offer in a subscription based service, you'd be looking at around about £400 a at paying around about £400 a yeah >> so £159 for the great programmes and dramas that they turn out really is value for money. >> and the problem why they haven't been spending is because they're too frightened to spend at the moment, because they're frightened criticism. frightened of this criticism. >> spend any money. >> um, if they spend any money. that's like that's why they lost shows like

bake to channel 4. bake off to channel 4. >> so perhaps we should be really proud to have them . really proud to have them. >> there need to be >> yes, there does need to be some . some reform. >> there not be wasting >> there should not be wasting money rubbish diversity money on rubbish like diversity training and all of that nonsense . nonsense. >> i agree that there needs to be a good businessman in be a good businessman come in and take over the running of it and take over the running of it and get rid of all the perhaps they could cut surplus. >> could cut gary >> perhaps they could cut gary lineker's let's go lineker's salary. let's let's go to peter spencer . to peter spencer. >> just look at the history here. >> the british broadcasting company limited started off as a private commercial enterprise. >> okay . later on it became the >> okay. later on it became the bbc british broadcasting corporation , but nonetheless , corporation, but nonetheless, john reith, reith and that bunch of likely lads who set it up had noidea of likely lads who set it up had no idea if it would fly or flop . it flew. then a few decades down the line along came itv and when i was a kid it was

considered rather vulgar to have an aerial over your house, which showed that you watched itv with all those grubby, disgusting , all those grubby, disgusting, filthy commercials. >> well , we filthy commercials. >> well, we all filthy commercials. >> well , we all got over filthy commercials. >> well, we all got over that. >> well, we all got over that. >> so to my mind, it is an absolute no brainer. you can't really you can't either means test it or put it on general taxation. so the obvious answer is to simply fund it with advertisements the same as commercial, same as itv . commercial, same as itv. >> but they wipe the floor with it. but. but they would wipe the floor with everybody because they've got all their handling everything. macshane everything. denis macshane very briefly, denis briefly, you've got 30s denis daddy, you're completely right. >> we're in this theory of defunding anything. >> some people want to defund the royal family. others to the royal family. others want to defund police . defund the police. >> some daddy, doris said >> some people daddy, doris said she'd abolish the licence by she'd abolish the licence fee by 2027, i think we're going to 2027, but i think we're going to aboush 2027, but i think we're going to abolish nadine doris by 2027. >> it's a debate that will go on. >> on. >> the bbc is out of sync with the country. >> it's an irony that i hear a lot more arguments against brexit on gb news than i do on

the bbc. >> it's a british brexit corporation is promoting the sunak agenda and it's a disaster for the country. it needs serious sorting out, but not for heaven's sake. this chairman, who was who was organising boris johnson's private finances. let's get a sense of public duty and public ethics back into the bbc before it's too late. >> i'll have to leave. denis macshane, thank you very much. former labour mp peter spence, political commentator martin campbell, editor, campbell, former chief editor, two sarah—louise two ofcom and sarah—louise robertson a showbiz commentator. thank for views . this thank you for your views. this is news on tv online and on is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. in response to mr sharpe's claims, a spokesperson the a bbc spokesperson said the licence fee is our agreed method of funding until at least 2027 and ensures the bbc is an independent universal broadcaster which invests in uk creativity talent. this is creativity and talent. this is gb news. we're live on tv online and on digital radio on the way , i'll continue with great , i'll continue with the great british asking is it british debate. i'm asking is it time bbc stop expecting the time the bbc stop expecting the pubuc time the bbc stop expecting the public to pay the thoughts public to pay ulez the thoughts

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news. the people's channel, britain's news . news. the people's channel, britain's news. channel >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 39 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv , online akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio . it's now and on digital radio. it's now time, though, for our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking , is time bbc i'm asking, is it time the bbc stop expecting the public to pay for it ? former bbc chairman for it? former bbc chairman richard sharp has suggested that wealthier households might have to pay more more for the licence fee , despite whether you watch fee, despite whether you watch it or not, stating that the licence fee system is regressive. that's true and the licence fee is due to rise with inflation next year. but should the public keep having to foot the public keep having to foot the bill irrespective of whether they watch the thing or not? could the bbc turn into a

subscription based model ? so the subscription based model? so the great debate hour great british debate this hour i'm asking time the bbc i'm asking is it time the bbc stop the public to stop expecting the public to pall-7 stop expecting the public to pay? see what my panel pay? let's see what my panel make of that. joined by make of that. i'm joined by broadcaster lizzie broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also political commentator sam dowler. now i'm going to start with you first, lizzie. what do you think the bbc isn't the question wasn't whether we should carry on paying whether we should carry on paying for it. it was more like , well, how should they carry on paying , well, how should they carry on paying it? find a paying for it? which i find a little irritating. little bit irritating. >> do. the has got >> i do. well, the bbc has got to at its programming. it to look at its programming. it needs programming. needs better programming. it needs better programming. it needs and i'm needs to get updated. and i'm sick to death of some of their presenters that are supposed to be, you know, neutral , not be, you know, neutral, not supposed to be talking about politics being paid over millions of pounds. and why should we pay for it? i'm sorry , the bbc have got to watch themselves because a lot of people i know don't want to pay for it any more. a gravitate to other providers like amazon, netflix and so forth . and it's netflix and so forth. and it's not good enough. i mean, i love

some of their shows. richard attenborough's show , one of attenborough's show, one of their greatest. david david sorry. david attenborough what she meant and, you know, i just think it's needs a total reboot and be updated. and so the answer to your question is no. >> well, i think i love the bbc. we obviously we've grown up with the bbc, all of us. and you know, but you know, when i grew up, there was four channels and then there was five and then there was, you know, there was no no streaming, no cable, no streaming, no anything the model of anything. so the whole model of tv changed tv in general has changed dramatically , even in the last dramatically, even in the last even few years . and, even in the last few years. and, you while obviously we all you know, while obviously we all enjoy amazing coverage, like things like glastonbury, for example, or the queens or the queens funeral and also the king's coronation nobody does it better than the bbc. >> everybody trusts the bbc dunng >> everybody trusts the bbc during pandemic during things like the pandemic as didn't we? as well, but didn't we? >> but, but price wise, but price wise, is it, you know , can price wise, is it, you know, can can some people afford it? is it fair that they pay for it when they don't even watch it? like

there are certain things like, you know, like if you watch if you know, like if you watch if you iplayer and says, you watch iplayer and it says, do have do have do you have a do you have a licence fee? and just licence fee? and you just say yes no, whether one yes or no, whether you have one or so, mean, it doesn't or not. so, i mean, it doesn't it doesn't work if, it obviously doesn't work if, for you on to for example, if you sign on to netflix, can't just sign on. netflix, you can't just sign on. if you have sign in, you if you don't have a sign in, you need proper in. need to have a proper sign in. so that way. so maybe it will work that way. but way like i think, but either way, like i think, you know, i do, i i know a you know, i do, i do. i know a lot people think that it's you know, i do, i do. i know a lot impartial. think that it's you know, i do, i do. i know a lot impartial. link that it's you know, i do, i do. i know a lot impartial. i happen it's you know, i do, i do. i know a lot impartial. i happen to s not impartial. i happen to believe that it is impartial compared to a lot of other places. >> but they've had so many rounds impartial . rounds about impartial. >> yeah, course. >> yeah, of course. >> yeah, of course. >> it's impartial, you're >> so if it's impartial, you're happy with likes gary happy with the likes of gary lineker making comments about things one the things like he's one of the presenters. if work there things like he's one of the presyou're. if work there things like he's one of the presyou're. if are 'k there things like he's one of the presyou're. if are you ere things like he's one of the presyou're. if are you happy and you're. yeah. are you happy with 1.3 million with them paying 1.3 million towards somebody like that? >> didn't say that one >> but he didn't say that on one of their he said in of their shows. he said that in his own time. >> the bbc when i >> i worked at the bbc when i said something on and i got i got punished for it. and i obviously it's one rule. >> rule for lineker. obviously it's one rule. >> obviouslyile for lineker. obviously it's one rule. >> obviously it's or lineker. obviously it's one rule. >> obviously it's not neker. obviously it's one rule. >> obviously it's not then, is it? >> and i think now it's time for the bbc to stand on its own feet . i'll be honest, and i'm sick

of hearing what gary's got to say. supposed to be impartial. and they've had many rows about their programmes, about impartiality. their programmes, about impartiality . there have been impartiality. there have been many from them . it was harry and many from them. it was harry and meghan, wasn't it? there was a programme had on and with programme they had on and with the world cup, both sides of the political spectrum say that it's impartial. >> so like people they absolutely they do. there was some say like it's some people say it's like it's a tool. it's it's all about tool. it's just it's all about the and people the tories. and some people say the tories. and some people say the it's the other side, it's a government office. >> but when they do get involved in things. for in political things. so for example, one of their journalists, simon, i can't remember maybe journalists, simon, i can't remsimon maybe journalists, simon, i can't remsimon or maybe journalists, simon, i can't remsimon or something)e it's simon baker or something like one the like that. but one of the journalist the journalist who wrote about the nigel thing nigel farage thing on his twitter , which shouldn't twitter, which you shouldn't be tweeting and he kind of tweeting anyway, and he kind of tweeted out that , oh, nigel has tweeted out that, oh, nigel has a commercial reason as to why coots got rid of nigel's account. but then he had to backtrack because he hadn't done any research and hadn't realised that actually coots offered nigel farage a natwest account after nigel had gone public with it. so they didn't, you know, so it. so they didn't, you know, so it wasn't quite the way. and then it turns out that loads of

other hadn't met their other people hadn't met their commercial to commercial requirement to have a coots account and those people all said, well, also got all said, well, we've also got accounts. have accounts. we don't have a million either. and million in there either. and they fact that they also negated the fact that other nigel's had other relatives of nigel's had also been barred from an account. so this is the sort of journalism that they're pitching to going to pay to us and we're going to pay for that. not paying for that. that. i'm not paying for that. that's rubbish. i don't forget. that. i'm not paying for that. thamartin)ish. i don't forget. that. i'm not paying for that. thamartin)ish. i dwasn't'get. that. i'm not paying for that. thamartin)ish. i dwasn't'ge'who that. i'm not paying for that. thaitaken )ish. i dwasn't'ge'who that. i'm not paying for that. thaitaken off|. i dwasn't'ge'who that. i'm not paying for that. thaitaken off airdwasn't'ge'who that. i'm not paying for that. thaitaken off air forasn't'ge'who that. i'm not paying for that. thaitaken off air forasrlittle who was taken off air for a little bit? oh, i saw that about the bons bit? oh, i saw that about the boris mean, that boris johnson. i mean, that was absolutely . absolutely disgraceful. >> you've got a rumour now that another presenter who's done something another presenter who's done sometwho or she but know who he or she is, but we hear that else now is hear that somebody else now is up something. up to something. >> it's the front of >> we know it's on the front of the we know we the paper and we know it's we know it's on. know it's a man on. >> but but also, i think well, he not identify as one. he might not identify as one. >> generous. >> so i was being generous. well, are supposed to be well, the bbc are supposed to be unbiased . unbiased. >> yes. and they're not. >> yes. and they're not. >> well, i know. well but that's that's mean. they that's what i mean. they are supposed so supposed to be unbiased and so therefore, you know, get therefore, you know, i get notifications from from the bbc and and i do and i read bbc articles and i do i like it's an i never feel like it's an opinion piece. we know what opinion piece. we know what opinion are you opinion pieces are like you know, you can go know, you can watch, you can go to and see to the mail online and see opinion name

opinion pieces in the name of and, you know your name, for example, anybody's who example, anybody's name who wrote you know, wrote it is there. so, you know, it's all the more it's their opinion all the more sensitive, it's their opinion all the more sensiti it, it's their opinion all the more sensiti it gets away with nothing, >> so it gets away with nothing, which it is, which >> so it gets away with nothing, vidon't it is, which >> so it gets away with nothing, vidon't think it is, which >> so it gets away with nothing, vidon't think like, it is, which >> so it gets away with nothing, vidon't think like, for is, which >> so it gets away with nothing, vidon't think like, for example, i don't think like, for example, i don't think like, for example, i watched lot 24 and i watched a lot of news 24 and i never never think that never and i never think that that somebody because because that somebody is because because it's not not do with it's not it's not to do with somebody opinion. do somebody opinion. it's to do with megxit then with delivering the megxit then a lot of people faith in a lot of people lost faith in the it was so clear. the bbc after it was so clear. and worked for the bbc and i know i worked for the bbc at time you not at the time that you could not express views the express any other views in the narrative in my view was narrative which in my view was one hated brexit and one that they hated brexit and they remain. they supported remain. >> well, i do remember >> well, i, well, i do remember that, but i can't i never want to go back there. it was so toxic even go on to toxic you couldn't even go on to facebook toxic you couldn't even go on to facebo> i'm going to bring his name up. gary lineker, the mess with that, where he is supposed to be impartial. >> that's just one person, though. >> paid millions. he's the highest, paid highest paid, >> paid millions. he's the highesis paid highest paid, >> paid millions. he's the highesis why highest paid, >> paid millions. he's the highesis why theyhighest paid, >> paid millions. he's the highesis why they let1est paid, >> paid millions. he's the highesis why they let1est |get, which is why they let him get away you know what? away with it. and you know what? if don't pay licence, you if you don't pay a licence, you get and then you get a big fine and then you could go to jail. is this fine and world.

and this modern day world. >> i don't think >> and anyway, i don't think that they should allowed that they should be allowed to just to subscription just go straight to subscription base. of all base. i'd strip them of all a lot of the assets they have because they've because remember, they've got a huge advertiser huge audience. so any advertiser would say , oh, the would look at and say, oh, the bbc, them . bbc, i'll advertise with them. so they will cream all the advertisers off all the other channels that are commercial. i think that actually subscription based a lot of the stuff to come away, have to sell all the away, they have to sell all the bits and think they should bits and i think they should only world news bits and i think they should only documentaries, world news bits and i think they should onlydocumentaries, but ld news bits and i think they should only documentaries, but they ws bits and i think they should onlydocumentaries, but they make bits and i think they should 0|they cumentaries, but they make bits and i think they should 0|they make 1taries, but they make bits and i think they should 0|they make airies, but they make bits and i think they should 0|they make a lot;, but they make bits and i think they should 0|they make a lot;, tmoney make a they make a lot of money selling their ips around the world well. world as well. >> like like strictly >> like what? like strictly or doctor that. doctor who, things like that. really good really popular ipp a few good shows, but shows, strictly attenborough but they all around the they sell them all around the world as well. >> globally. yes. and they say wow. bbc needs to have wow. but the bbc needs to have better programming and i think it time to stand on its it needs time to stand on its own two feet. >> also needs to return >> it also needs to return to local because did a local radio because they did a hunger of hunger games type thing of culling staff culling the members of staff from who won't tell you from radio who won't tell you whether or whether you've got the job or not. horrible. know a not. it was horrible. i know a lot worked in lot of people who worked in local were of that. >> to be fair, the bbc, we >> to be fair, like the bbc, we they supposed to public they are supposed to be a public broadcaster would a broadcaster, so i would expect a better standard from them. >> the things we're paying for

better standard from them. >> tiandings we're paying for better standard from them. >> tiand theywe're paying for better standard from them. >> tiand theywe're p.behaver better standard from them. >> tiand theywe're p.behave in them and they cannot behave in that they that manner. but instead they did. impressed and did. i was not impressed and i genuinely think i don't genuinely think that i don't watch them. so i think that actually we need to start talking about whether you should have to for something you have to pay for something you don't i don't think don't watch. and i don't think why can't we choose we do why can't we choose like we do with amazon, you know, with amazon, netflix, you know, isn't there a way? >> sure i'm sure >> yeah, but i'm sure i'm sure at you've watched at some point you've watched iplayer listened iplayer or listened or listened to podcast bbc sounds or to a podcast on bbc sounds or something like that. they all look weather. i mean, look at the weather. i mean, it's it's obviously, it's it's not it's obviously, it's not then many. not just it then it's so many. it's aspects it's so many different aspects to the bbc. it's not. it's like it's a amorphous in how massive it's a amorphous in how massive it is and it's reach across it is and how it's reach across the globe. so mean, the whole globe. so i mean, i think you i think think it's you know, i think it's definitely national it's definitely a national institution along along with the royal family, the royal family institution along along with the royetheimily, the royal family institution along along with the royethe nhs. the royal family and the nhs. >> it's of date and it's >> it's out of date and it's better i'm better programming. and i'm sorry , i sickened at the sorry, i feel sickened at the amount pay certain amount they pay certain presenters. sorry. presenters. i'm sorry. >> well the fact >> it's not fair. well the fact is. that nonsense . when is. and also that nonsense. when itold is. and also that nonsense. when i told you about that journalist who fact who was talking about the fact that didn't reach that nigel farage didn't reach the financial threshold, which that nigel farage didn't reach the the ncial threshold, which that nigel farage didn't reach the the reason reshold, which that nigel farage didn't reach the the reason why)ld, which that nigel farage didn't reach the the reason why)ld,didn't was the reason why he didn't actually the account and actually have the account and why they away, then lots why they took it away, then lots

of started of other people then started tweeting that tweeting and saying that actually they didn't reach the financial either. and financial threshold either. and it shows nigel actually it just shows nigel actually said more money now. said he has more money now. >> wasn't carried it >> it wasn't carried with it carried other stations. >> like because i saw saw the >> like because i saw i saw the story because we texted about it and was it picked up by the sun or like by any of the other newspapers? >> nobody. i don't think anybody else lot of else picked it up because lot of us done the us had already done the research. that nigel research. you already that nigel had that went public with had that nigel went public with nothing point why nothing to the point was why would of start talking would he sort of start talking about doing about that without doing the full felt like a full research? it felt like a sort of politically motivated aspect. right. aspect. it didn't feel right. he shouldn't and shouldn't be doing it. and that's don't want that's the thing. i don't want bbc doing bbc journalists doing saying things they haven't things like that if they haven't fully story. fully researched the story. and that . and we that was exactly that. and we trust lot of people trust the bbc. a lot of people trust the bbc. a lot of people trust they they need trust them. so they they need they're not being fair. >> need held to. >> they need to be held to. >> they need to be held to. >> exactly. so you do trust them is you say? >> exactly. so you do trust them is well,ou say? >> exactly. so you do trust them is well, no,;ay? >> exactly. so you do trust them is well, no, no, but this >> well, no, no, i did. but this shows nothing you and >> well, no, no, i did. but this showviews.ing you and >> well, no, no, i did. but this showviews. let's you and >> well, no, no, i did. but this showviews. let's welcome| and >> well, no, no, i did. but this showviews. let's welcome ourj your views. let's welcome our great british voices. let's see what about your what they think about it. your opportunity on the show opportunity to be on the show and tell us what think about opportunity to be on the show andtopicss what think about opportunity to be on the show andtopicss wrdiscussing.k about the topics i'm discussing. right. to bristol. right. let's go over to bristol. it's always great to speak to lee great british it's always great to speak to lee this great british

it's always great to speak to lee this afternoon.at british it's always great to speak to lee this afternoon. lee, itish it's always great to speak to lee this afternoon. lee, the| voice. this afternoon. lee, the bbc . see, is voice. this afternoon. lee, the bbc. see, is it voice. this afternoon. lee, the bbc . see, is it time they bbc. see, is it time they stopped relying on us having to pay stopped relying on us having to pay for them compulsory literally. yeah. mean listen to the read. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> i read the article about richard sharpe and you know, my in my opinion, just in my opinion, he's just fundamentally in my opinion, he's just fundamen absolutely right to >> you're absolutely right to say we should not be talking about pays more or means about who pays more or means testing the licence fee. we should be talking about scrapping licence fee scrapping the licence fee altogether and making the a altogether and making the bbc a subscription service. >> people will not >> then people will not be forced service. forced to pay for service. >> they use . as you know, >> they don't use. as you know, we're living in a world that's more connected and digital than ever before, but there is one thing that feels like it's stuck in the past and it's the bbc licence fee. it's like a dinosaur the age of dinosaur in the age of streaming, know, i find it streaming, you know, i find it utterly staggering if utterly staggering that if i want to watch gb news, which i do all the time, nana very good. and i don't, you know, i don't watch. don't anything watch. i don't watch anything on the expecting to the bbc. i'm still expecting to pay the bbc. i'm still expecting to pay fee like pay the licence fee like everyone it's an absolute joke. i joke. l pay joke. i pay for services that >> i pay for services that i want watch. i should not be want to watch. i should not be

forced pay for services that forced to pay for services that i don't want watch. i don't want to watch. >> personally , i >> you know, me personally, i lost faith in the bbc ever since it was announced we were going to referendum leaving to have a referendum leaving the eu. they're utterly eu. you know, they're utterly disgraceful relentless . disgraceful and relentless. anti—brexit bias was the main reason i started my twitter account . you know, i'd spent as account. you know, i'd spent as much possible clipping much time as possible clipping everything. that was just ridiculous , biased and posting ridiculous, biased and posting it and it's got worse it online and it's got worse since then. not better, indeed. you know, there sorry, i'm running out of time, but i could always talk to lee fraser's i could go on for ages about the bbc nana and he also got the blue memo. >> thank you much, >> thank you very much, lee harris. he's a great british voice in today . voice everyone's in blue today. thank much. that's the thank you so much. that's the fabulous a fabulous lee harris. he's a great voice. can great british voice. you can also one as well. just get in also be one as well. just get in touch here news. but touch here at gb news. but you're akua. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this coming up. it's this is gb news coming up. it's this difficult this week's difficult conversation. the conversation. are we on the bnnk conversation. are we on the brink a breakthrough for brink of a breakthrough for alzheimer's? a momentous drug has given one family hope, as david has developed the david has some developed the disease. seven years ago. i'll be by david and his wife be joined by david and his wife who shared story. but now be joined by david and his wife who get ed story. but now be joined by david and his wife who get ed weather but now

be joined by david and his wife who get ed weather . ut now let's get some weather. >> the temperature is rising . >> the temperature is rising. boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast where we continue to see some heavy showers, possible thunderstorms comes through the rest of the weekend and it's still fairly warm and humid across the uk. looking at the bigger picture in this area of low pressure, sits to the low pressure, just sits to the west allowing that warm low pressure, just sits to the we�*to allowing that warm low pressure, just sits to the we�*to come allowing that warm low pressure, just sits to the we�*to come up)wing that warm low pressure, just sits to the we�*to come up from that warm low pressure, just sits to the we�*to come up from thet warm low pressure, just sits to the we�*to come up from the nearm air to come up from the near continent down, helping those shower thunderstorms shower clouds and thunderstorms across the uk through the across the uk right through the rest the and rest of the weekend. and we still thundery showers still have thundery showers across east this across the north and east this saturday evening. could be some local disruption, some longer spells of rain for scotland. nonh spells of rain for scotland. north east england for time north east england for a time too, the hours . but too, into the early hours. but for many will become quieter for many it will become quieter . there'll be clear spells, but still fairly warm humid still fairly warm and humid tonight, in the tonight, particularly in the east. of 17 or 18 degrees east. lows of 17 or 18 degrees was the west will be a little fresher. sunday morning, a bright start for many cloud and outbreaks of showery rain pushing south—east england

pushing into south—east england and the rain across scotland takes time to clear here. takes its time to clear here. and then it's the day of sunny spells showers. once spells and heavy showers. once more showers most frequent across western parts of the uk. some thunderstorms , arms could some thunderstorms, arms could lead to some local disruption , lead to some local disruption, particularly northern particularly parts of northern ireland, wales, southwest ireland, into wales, southwest england , too. and temperatures england, too. and temperatures overall a little lower compared to saturday highs around 25 or 26 celsius into the evening time. thunderstorms continue to push their way northwards, but they will ease by the end of the day. and then overnight, we're looking at clear skies once more and temperatures just dropping a little lower compared to recent nights. but still, towns and cities , 13 to 15 celsius. so it cities, 13 to 15 celsius. so it means a bright start for many. on monday morning, plenty of sunny spells , thicker cloud sunny spells, thicker cloud across the north of scotland and then all eyes to the west of this area. low pressure starts to bring in more showery rain into western parts affecting parts of northern ireland, wales, the west country at times to elsewhere. a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers

breaking through. further showers expected on tuesday showers are expected on tuesday and wednesday , temperatures and wednesday, temperatures a little fresher than they have been late . been of late. >> the temperatures rising , >> the temperatures rising, boxed solar , proud sponsors of boxed solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news 060. weather on. gb news 060. >> kaja kallas is talking to angela there. i was just saying i've grown cucumbers and tomatoes. one tomatoes. i've eaten one cucumber. there's another one hidden flap and i'm hidden under the flap and i'm waiting that to finish. waiting for that to finish. anyway, not eat them anyway, i better not eat them too fast. but this is gb on too fast. but this is gb news on tv, radio. tv, online and on digital radio. i'm akua. right. coming up, i'm nana akua. right. coming up, it's royal roundup it's time for the royal roundup and biographer and royal biographer angela levin the studio to levin will be in the studio to give all the latest from give you all the latest from behind palace walls the behind the palace walls on the menu. latest from harry and menu. the latest from harry and meghan. on the way. so meghan. that's on the way. so right it is time right now, though, it is time for let's delve into for that. so let's delve into that with angela levin. she's here live on tv, online and on digital radio. we'll be discussing after the

gbnews.com on tv, radio and onune gbnews.com on tv, radio and online gb news. >> britain's news . online gb news. >> britain's news. channel >> britain's news. channel >> good afternoon. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. now there's always something going on in the royal household. and of course, this loads this week is no different. loads of things on the menu. king charles and camilla, they were presented with the scottish crown the crown jewels entitled the honours and then honours of scotland and then prince harry. he's going to head to africa following his us visa debacle every sunday, saturday evening. i love to give you a rundown. and who better to do so than royal biographer angela

levin? an angela. hello lovely start to the week. king charles in edinburgh. >> yes i think that it went very well. >> there was a group of people who were shouting , not our king, who were shouting, not our king, not our king, but there was loads of people who were shouting, our king, our king. >> and i think i found it slightly second best to the coronation they kept saying, it's not the coronation but it was actually it in its position. i thought it was it was lovely. and i liked the way he touched the crown you mustn't put it on. you must just touch it gently. and then you can kiss your finger, but you can't kiss the crown i'm not sure why, but you mustn't . so they and mustn't. so they did that. and i thought that they were very relaxed. seemed happy and relaxed. they seemed happy and they were accepted very much by all the scottish people who were lining the streets and that's what's very important to all of us, actually. and they could actually relax in scotland. they both love scotland and they love going round. they do lots of work there. so this sort of finished it off since the

coronation. >> he probably didn't want to put the crown on because it's heavy. he probably thought it didn't look, it didn't look heavy. >> it's quite small. it's not heavy, didn't heavy, but it's just they didn't want it to be the coronation. they just wanted to go through the things about scotland rather than actually try and copy it in a sort of cut back way . so a sort of cut back way. so that's good . you always like to that's good. you always like to hear about prince harry. i think it's actually a disaster waiting thing, really. he loves africa and he's obviously going there in the hope that he can make a decent broadcast . decent broadcast. >> but maybe he's hoping to bump into chelsy davy . into chelsy davy. >> she's married with a child. nobody talks about her. >> well, there's 115 times of that court case. and then he talks about. >> so he wants to do that to keep the money coming from netflix . however, today there's netflix. however, today there's rumours coming from the meghan's side that , you know, he's

side that, you know, he's decided he doesn't want to be in the spotlight anymore . you won't the spotlight anymore. you won't see much of him . you know, see much of him. you know, meghan is used to it and she does very well. oh yes. but harry doesn't in other words, i take it to say, and this is really unpleasant, but i think it might very well be what is going on that she's got enough of it now and she's had what she wants from him. she can go forward with her new pr and everything, all the things that are going to be offered to her and love it . and harry, we will and love it. and harry, we will hardly see any. but she's not going to split with him. of course, she won't, because if she does, she loses a lot of people's interest because that's what they're really interested in. and i think it's tragic. otherwise it's going to africa will america let him back when he's admitted to all these illegal drugs as and when will he see his little children? he loves small children and he would adores his own, presumably . so i don't know how he's going to manage. she's not going to be

coming back forth in a coming back and forth in a private they won't pay for private jet. they won't pay for that so concerning. the that. so that's concerning. the other thing i'd like just other thing i'd like to just mention is my huge respect for fergie , because she did fergie, because she did a podcast the day before. she had a nine hour operation. and a mastectomy and said, you know, please, everybody, you should go and see it. you know , you don't and see it. you know, you don't have a lump. you can just have a shadow. please go everywhere . shadow. please go everywhere. one. and then she had this operation of eight hours. she's brilliant and she's she was in intensive care for four days. but she's not making a big deal about poor me. she's just saying , okay, i'll get over it. she's got her daughters there, which is really nice . and king charles is really nice. and king charles is really nice. and king charles is not going to push them out of the royal lodge while she is recovering, which is , of course, recovering, which is, of course, what he should do . what he should do. >> he wouldn't do that. that would callous. would look callous. >> wish her a speedy >> no, we wish her a speedy recovery well. recovery as well. >> as are you, >> she's fantastic. as are you, angela. angela levin. she's our royal biographer. this is the gb

news on tv, online and on digital radio . more to come in digital radio. more to come in the next hour . the next hour. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines on the way. my incredible guest for difficult conversation . we'll be difficult conversation. we'll be talking but first, talking alzheimer's. but first, let's latest news let's get your latest news headunes. headlines. >> good afternoon . 5:02. i'm ray >> good afternoon. 5:02. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. and our top story this hour, the prime minister says britain discourages the use of cluster munitions after the us agreed to send them to ukraine. president biden says he stands by his decision despite criticism from human rights groups . rishi human rights groups. rishi sunak, who will meet mr biden in london on monday ahead of the nato summit, says britain is supporting kyiv in other ways ,

supporting kyiv in other ways, as uk is signatory to a convention which prohibits the production or use of cluster munitions and discourages their use . use. >> use. >> we will continue to do our part to support ukraine against russia's illegal and unprovoked invasion. we've done that by providing heavy battle tanks and most recently long—range weapons and hopefully all countries can continue to support ukraine. >> well, meanwhile , ukraine's >> well, meanwhile, ukraine's president, zelenskyy has visited snake island to mark 500 days of war. the area in the black sea was retaken by the ukrainian armed forces a year ago . mr armed forces a year ago. mr zelenskyy is now in istanbul full holding talks with turkey's president erdogan in his first visit to the country since the start of the conflict . start of the conflict. demonstrators have been protesting against plans to house asylum seekers on a barge in dorset. it follows reports that the bibby stockholm , which that the bibby stockholm, which can accommodate 500 people, could arrive this week. neither

stand up to racism. dorset or no to the barge group want it moored at portland port. it's part of the government's plan to reduce costs by moving migrants out of hotel rooms. at least 350 people have crossed the english channelin people have crossed the english channel in seven small boats today. channel in seven small boats today . that follows 686 who today. that follows 686 who crossed in 13 dinghies yesterday . that's the highest single day figure this year. no. two, the barge group organiser, alex bailey, says he won't stop fighting to continue our campaign open letters . campaign open letters. >> we are going to talk to them in person if we can next week. there is an open council meeting with dorset council. we are going attend . going to attend. >> we today then are going to make our voices heard and the people of portland, the people of weymouth and the people of dorset , the bbc is reportedly dorset, the bbc is reportedly investigating a claim that one of its well known presenters paid a teenager for explicit pictures. >> it's alleged that the man paid more than £35,000 for the

images with the sun , saying that images with the sun, saying that the young person was 17 years old. the newspaper says the teen's family complained to the broadcaster in may. in a statement, the bbc said it takes any allegations very seriously and will act on any information that comes to light. and will act on any information that comes to light . the and will act on any information that comes to light. the family of an eight year old girl who was killed in south—west london have described her as intelligent and cheeky. selina lau died after a land rover crashed into a prep school in wimbledon on thursday, another eight year old girl is in a life threatening condition and a woman in her 40s remains in a critical condition. the 46 year old female driver arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving has been bailed pending further inquiries . the chancellor admits that halving inflation is proving harder than expected. jeremy hunt says the tories pledge of inflation reaching 5% by the end of the year is going to be more

challenging than first thought. mr hunt also says tax cuts can't be introduced if it makes the battle against inflation more difficult . inflation remains at difficult. inflation remains at 8.7. currently, the government has released an online video in a bid to stop fly—tipping . a bid to stop fly—tipping. tweets from the prime minister's official page says it means game over for fly tippers. bigger on the spot, fines for litter, graffiti and fly—tipping are now in force as part of a crackdown on anti—social behaviour. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. let's get back to nana. >> this is a gb news on tv onune >> this is a gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua fast approaching seven

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crown prosecution service, a spouse who refuses to pay for their partner's gender reassignment surgery could be deemed abuser. reassignment surgery could be deemed abuser . a. deemed a domestic abuser. a. email me gb views. gb news .com or tweet me at . gb news. so it's or tweet me at. gb news. so it's now time for difficult conversation and a really moving story that has given one family quite a bit of hope. 78 year old david ison started developing alzheimer's. seven years ago and since then it hasn't been easy for him. david's been forced to give up work as a joiner and face the mountain of challenges every day . now, he was later put every day. now, he was later put on a new drug called lecanemab . on a new drug called lecanemab. ihope on a new drug called lecanemab. i hope i've said that right. i'm pretty sure i said it wrong. lecanemab lecanemab. as part of an international trial for those with early stage alzheimer's , with early stage alzheimer's, his wife has previously said that although he is deteriorating. david is still able to take part in various activities but which she owes to

the trial . now, on thursday, the the trial. now, on thursday, the us food and drug administration granted traditional approval for the different drug marking decades of scientific progress towards treatment. and this all comes after the shocking alzheimer's diagnosis for beloved tv star fiona phillip at the age of 62. so i'm pleased to say. joining me now is cheryl and david anas sarwar. thank you very much for joining both very much forjoining me. both now they're coming. there you go . right. nice to see you both. thank you so much. now, now, cheryl . hello. hi, david. hi so. cheryl. hello. hi, david. hi so. so cheryl, talk to me about how you and david became involved in this particular trial . um david this particular trial. um david started to lose his memory , started to lose his memory, which is a very minor part of alzheimer's. >> about seven years ago. and so therefore, i started looking for opfions. therefore, i started looking for options . and when you go to your options. and when you go to your gp at the moment, if you're diagnosed with dementia or

alzheimer's , there isn't alzheimer's, there isn't anything they can do. so i started making enquiries and discovered that there were some trials that we could get involved in and three years ago we started at recognition health on the trial for lecanemab , and on the trial for lecanemab, and at that stage we had no idea that there would be some success, which is absolutely amazing . we did the trial, we amazing. we did the trial, we talked about it and decided that we'd rather do something than nothing. and we knew the risks involved and there haven't been any deaths. i don't think , from any deaths. i don't think, from the cameraman, but from don ammerman. there have been very few a couple of deaths. >> so we knew that the risks , >> so we knew that the risks, but we thought, well, even if it doesn't help us, it might help future generations . future generations. >> so that's how we started the journey . journey. >> we've now had 80 visits to recognise . health plus david has

recognise. health plus david has to have mri scans , lumbar to have mri scans, lumbar punctures, pet scans . so it's a punctures, pet scans. so it's a big commitment. it took our life oveh big commitment. it took our life over. yeah, but we both feel it was a miracle. >> it's like winning the lottery because there were 1750 people worldwide who were given that drug , and david worldwide who were given that drug, and david is one of them. >> very lucky to have got on the trial was just wonderful . yeah. trial was just wonderful. yeah. so, david, can you share your experience of using lekem? i can't say. is it lecanemab canon? the kannavath . yeah. so canon? the kannavath. yeah. so you've been you've been on this for, what, three years now? so how has it affected your, your life ? if um. life? if um. >> well, it's just naturally changes the, the life that you had previously . and you don't had previously. and you don't now have . but we are still

now have. but we are still having a nice life where we live. so it's not all bad . so live. so it's not all bad. so you know, we just keep going and that's all you can do. and it gave us hope. >> and so we're hoping that by telling people of our journey , telling people of our journey, that will give them hope. this is specifically for alzheimer's . it doesn't help people with vascular dementia, but the two drug companies who have brought out the cameraman, which is eisai and biogen and then don , eisai and biogen and then don, which is the other successful drug, which is by lilly. and as it happens , is our very good it happens, is our very good friend , mike colleague is also friend, mike colleague is also a volunteer for donanemab and he's here too. so if you like, he will say a word and tell you what you feel about being on the trial. >> yeah, i'd like to do that. >> yeah, i'd like to do that. >> would definitely like to hear that. always good to hear that. it's always good to hear from people who are actually

taking drug . taking this drug. >> hi , can i taking this drug. >> hi, can i can taking this drug. >> hi , can i can see your head >> hi, can i can see your head in a bit. >> i can see you now. so you're taking which drugs are you taking? lee kuan yew nabab as well ? no, no , taking? lee kuan yew nabab as well? no, no , he's taking the well? no, no, he's taking the other one called donelan . other one called donelan. >> donelan. >> donelan. >> de—man . >> de—man. >> de—man. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> none of us can say it. how is it impacted for you? >> been a bit of a problem. that word. >> how has it impacted you then, taking this this drug ? well um, taking this this drug? well um, i feel extremely lucky to have been put on the clinical trial and since it i've been on it nearly two years. >> yeah , about two years. um and >> yeah, about two years. um and i feel better about it. i feel confident . yeah. um, and i'm confident. yeah. um, and i'm sure now we know the drug is

going to be successful and i'm sure there'll be a lot of people like me coming through it. yes quite incredible really, because and this drug, quite incredible really, because and this drug , the aims of these and this drug, the aims of these drugs to slow it down so they don't actually cure it . don't actually cure it. >> but do you feel that it's kind of slowing down the progress of the disease ? progress of the disease? >> it definitely is that whether it's my imagination , but it's it's my imagination, but it's given me confidence to believe that. and i do believe it. um and as i say, i'm very, very lucky and appreciative of being on the trial . on the trial. >> what were you like before you took the drug? i'm quite curious took the drug? i'm quite curious to hear how he was before he took the drug because it's always it's so these drugs, they're only on trial at the moment is so do you know if it's likely that they're going to be available for people to trial more people to trial them and if and just give us an idea of how

you got to your husband on you got to get your husband on on the drug. yes >> so luke miall has received approval in the united states . approval in the united states. and so it is possible to get it in the states at the moment. and i believe that don , which is one i believe that don, which is one mike's on, they're going to be making an announcement very soon. so both are considered to be a success. so what they do is they stop the amyloid building up in the brain. so that's what alzheimer's is all about. the amyloid builds up unnaturally , amyloid builds up unnaturally, everybody has it. but with people with alzheimer's , too people with alzheimer's, too much accumulates on the brain. and so this drug has been proved. now, mike said, i feel better. so i think i'm better maybe. but with david, we know for sure from the mri scans and pet scans that the amyloid has reduced in his brain. wow. so that's why we're allowed to talk about it. recognition health who are forefront. dr. emma mcsweeney is a world leading

authority on this and she said, yes, we know that it has worked is worked , but it's breaking is worked, but it's breaking down the amyloid stopping it, adhenng down the amyloid stopping it, adhering to the brain cells. but you have to remember that with david's example , a lot of the david's example, a lot of the brain cells have already died, right? >> so we can't go backwards. you can't go back , but if you catch can't go back, but if you catch it early, you could prevent almost it's acting almost a preventative method . that's preventative method. that's really great. >> so in in time to come, if somebody dodi finds they're having early symptoms, get alzheimer's diagnosed properly , alzheimer's diagnosed properly, which is through a pet scan or a lumbar puncture, they could possibly have a 3 or 6 month dose of the either of these drugs as you would for cancer maybe. and there may be never, ever go on to develop alzheimer's. wow how wonderful is that? >> well, that listen, you know what? we're all wanting that to be the case. and you'll keep us updated , cheryl, of your updated, cheryl, of your

progress and your husband's progress and your husband's progress and your husband's progress and also his friend, because it's interesting that they've come up with some great drugs now and maybe we're on the way to trying to maybe find a cure or preventative method to stop this from taking hold. cheryl david, your friend, cheryl david, and your friend, what name? i missed his what was his name? i missed his name. what was his name? i missed his narmike calling . >> mike calling. >> mike calling. >> michael calling. >> mike calling. >> thankzl calling. >> mike calling. >> thank you, .ling. >> mike calling. >> thank you, mike. thank you so much. thank you, all of you, for your with those drugs. your thoughts with those drugs. say them again or cheryl's gone now. tell you that one now. but i can tell you that one of them was lecanemab and that is l e well , can of them was lecanemab and that is le well, can we get is spelt l e well, can we get them back? because i just quickly asked cheryl to just say those names, those drug names again, because i know our viewers. say viewers. cheryl, can you say those because those drug names again? because i be many those drug names again? because i and be many those drug names again? because i and listenersnany those drug names again? because i and listeners who want viewers and listeners who want to those are. to know what those drugs are. yeah >> look and donelan , they >> so look and donelan, they both finished in and this is the first time in history , you know, first time in history, you know, this is really important that there has been any drug that has shown any success. so that's how exciting this breakthrough is fantastic . and, you know , now

fantastic. and, you know, now fingers crossed , it was fingers crossed, it was a british scientist who first had the idea, but well, listen, fingers crossed out. >> simon's will be a thing of the past. you so much, the past. thank you so much, cheryl. and cheryl. thank you, mike. and david, for sharing your stories. really that. so really appreciate that. so lecanemab, lecanemab lecanemab, which is lecanemab and i'll find the spelling of the other one. all right. stay tuned. this is gb news. there's more to come in in a few moments time. we're live tv, online time. we're live on tv, online and radio . what i can and on digital radio. what i can say is coming up under new guidance crown guidance from the crown prosecution service, a spouse who refuses to pay for their partner's surgery could partner's gender surgery could be deemed a domestic abuser. that ridiculous to that sounds a bit ridiculous to me. be discussing me. we'll be discussing that. the is next. the weather is next. >> temperatures rising, >> the temperatures rising, boxed suella proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm greg >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast where we continue to see some heavy showers and possible thunderstorms through the rest of the weekend and still fairly

warm and humid across the uk . warm and humid across the uk. looking at the bigger picture in this area of low pressure just sits to the west allowing sits to the west of us, allowing that to come up that warm air to come up from the developing the near continent, developing those shower clouds and thunderstorms across the uk right the rest of the right through the rest of the weekend. we still have weekend. and we still have thundery across the thundery showers across the north and east this saturday evening. could be some local disruption, spells disruption, some longer spells of scotland. north east of rain for scotland. north east england for a time two into the early but many early hours. but for many it will quieter. there'll be will become quieter. there'll be clear spells, but still fairly warm and humid tonight, particularly in the east. lows of 17 or 18 degrees whilst the west will be a little fresher. sunday morning. a bright start for many cloud and outbreaks of showery into showery rain pushing into south—east england the rain south—east england and the rain across scotland its time across scotland takes its time to here. and then it's the to clear here. and then it's the day of sunny spells and heavy showers . once more showers most showers. once more showers most frequent western parts of frequent across western parts of the uk. some thunderstorms could lead to some local disruption, particularly parts of northern ireland into wales, southwest england , too, and temperatures england, too, and temperatures overall. a little lower compared

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houh the great british debate. this hour, is labour's hour, i'm asking is labour's school policy realistic? school funding policy realistic? sir starmer has released sir keir starmer has released labour's plans to shake up education funding with a new tax raid, which is removing a vat exemption which uk private schools are covered by due to their charitable status. so if elected next year, labour believes the move would raise an extra 1.6 billion for education. now keir starmer himself has argued that it would pay for the most ambitious school improvement programme for a generation. however our education experts have raised concerns , saying the policy is concerns, saying the policy is unlikely to raise enough money and force up fees in private schools. even the headmaster of sir keir's own alma mater, shaun fenton of reigate grammar school in surrey, has warned that the policy force thousands of policy might force thousands of children into an oversubscribed state system. so what do you think for the great british debate this hour? i'm asking is labour's funding policy labour's school funding policy realistic? joining me to realistic? joining me now to discuss is ann widdecombe, member of reform uk and former tory minister and reem ibrahim,

political commentator christine anne cunliffe, head teacher at lvs in ascot, and dr. raqeeb hassan . all right, i'm going to hassan. all right, i'm going to start with you, dr. rikki neave hassan. this a realistic idea hassan. is this a realistic idea for me? i think it's robbing peter to pay paul, but what do you think? >> think that there may >> well, i think that there may well be a difference between what labour believes these policies would raise and what many experts are saying . many experts are saying. >> labour's projections suggest that these vat exemptions as for fees for independent schools, would raise in the region of £1.6 billion and this would help to fund its so—called ambitious shake up of the uk's education system. >> but none of the a number of experts saying that actually it's not going to be close to 1.6 billion. it's more likely to be in the region of 1 billion. and there's also the argument as well that if labour was to introduce this policy, there is a possibility then that more pupils are currently in pupils which are currently in independent would be independent schools would be pushed into the state sector so

that could also lead to pressures on school places in the state system. so i think there's a number of things that labour really have to think about a more carefully on about a bit more carefully on this front. >> widdecombe >> yeah. ann widdecombe absolutely . absolutely. >> there are something like 615,000 children in private education now , obviously not all education now, obviously not all of them will leave, but parents who are on fairly modest incomes, who are sacrificing in order to get their children through private education, those are the ones that will leave . are the ones that will leave. >> if they do leave, then it first of all, labour is going to have to pick up the cost of educating them in the state system. it's going to have to pick up the cost of expanding the state system in order to accommodate the numbers. if the schools themselves then shut out, that means all those pupils will have to go somewhere else and it will also have an impact on the local economy. if a school shuts. so i think they will just haven't thought this through together with the fact that they don't appear to be

quite certain what they're going to this alleged money for. to use. this alleged money for. they keep coming out with with different uses to which it could be put. now the other thing we have to consider is that private schools perform , by and large, schools perform, by and large, very well . there are a few that very well. there are a few that don't, but by and large they perform very well. and who is going to be able to afford them? it's going to have to be the very wealthy. and of course , very wealthy. and of course, overseas it isn't going to be anybody else. now i speak as somebody who came from a family which did make sacrifices. we weren't poor. my father was a senior member of the admiralty. we weren't poor, but equally, you know, they couldn't afford eton , they couldn't afford that eton, they couldn't afford that sort of but they sent the sort of stuff. but they sent the two us to boarding two of us to private boarding schools sacrificed schools and they sacrificed for it. i thank them for it and i don't see why other children shouldn't have those advantages too. >> okay. well, christine cunniffe , your headteacher at cunniffe, your headteacher at lvs in ascot was your view. >> well , i totally agree with

>> well, i totally agree with everything that's been said. >> so far. >> so far. >> and i think there's a lot of guesswork here as well, because we don't know many children we don't know how many children will to stay then we don't know how many children willother to stay then we don't know how many children willother thing stay then we don't know how many children willother thing is, y then we don't know how many children willother thing is, you then we don't know how many children willother thing is, you know, the other thing is, you know, there's information there's a lot more information out about what tax might out now about what tax might look because if your tax look like, because if your tax in school fees , what about the in school fees, what about the things can recover ? things you can recover? >> for example, boarding >> so, for example, boarding school the school fees at the moment i think would be exempt . think would be exempt. >> our school's going to >> so our school's going to be really reduce really playing clever. reduce your the bit where you can your fees. the bit where you can claim that you put the vat on and up prices of the and put up the prices of the things. claim it back. things. you can claim it back. it's nonsense if you it's absolute nonsense if you ask i think it hasn't been ask me. i think it hasn't been thought through. no ask me. i think it hasn't been thou figuresiugh. no ask me. i think it hasn't been thou figuresiugh.the no ask me. i think it hasn't been thou figuresiugh.the government firm figures and the government are to one egg on are looking to one have egg on their faces to cost economy their faces to cost the economy so much more. and three disadvantaged children in especially those on full bursaries who are being deprived of parental choice of where they want to go to school. i think it's absolutely disgraceful. and i think it needs a complete u—turn now before it's a little bit too late . bit too late. >> another u—turn. they've done that on energy already. reem

absolutely. >> i mean, i suspect this will be a deeply unpopular policy for many. it's expected that obviously with the scrapping of the charitable status of private schools that cost them . about schools that cost them. about £104 million for those schools themselves, that would, of course mean they will either have to increase aukus tuition fees , pushing out a lot of those fees, pushing out a lot of those children into the already oversubscribed state education system. that is hugely problematic. we know that the solution to a lot of the educational problems in this country isn't just throw more taxpayer money at it. instead, what the government should be doing and what the labour party should be doing if they are going into government at the next election, they be next election, they should be thinking schools , reintroducing grammar schools, reintroducing choice so that parents are then able to actually have that choice to send those those kids to school. i went to a state school, wouldn't school, but i wouldn't want any other other parents other choice for other parents to away. to be taken away. >> , it does seem bit >> yeah, it does seem a bit ridiculous. can't see how this ridiculous. i can't see how this is to out welcome is going to work out and welcome

.thank is going to work out and welcome . thank you very much. also reem ibrahim, cunniffe , dr. ibrahim, christine cunniffe, dr. raqeeb ahsan , thank you very raqeeb ahsan, thank you very much for your thoughts. very good to hear this is the gb good to hear you. this is the gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. nana akua . digital radio. nana nana akua. coming up, we'll continue with that great british debate this houh that great british debate this hour. i'm is labour's hour. i'm asking, is labour's school realistic? school funding policy realistic? you'll of my you'll hear the thoughts of my panel you'll hear the thoughts of my panel. and columnist panel. broadcaster and columnist lizzie and also political lizzie cundy and also political commentator dowler but commentator sam dowler. but first, your first, let's get your latest news . news headlines. >> 531 i'm ray addison in the newsroom . and our top story, the newsroom. and our top story, the prime minister says britain discourages the use of cluster munitions after the united states agreed to send them to ukraine. president biden says he stands by his decision despite criticism from human rights groups. rishi sunak, who will meet mr biden in london on monday ahead of the nato summit , says britain is supporting kyiv in other ways . kyiv in other ways. >> uk is signatory to a convention which prohibits the

production or use of cluster munitions and discourages their use. we will continue to do our part to support ukraine against russia's illegal and unprovoked invasion when we've done that by providing heavy battle tanks and most recently long—range weapons, you know, and hopefully all countries can continue to support ukraine demonstrators have been protesting against plans to house asylum seekers on a barge in dorset . a barge in dorset. >> it follows reports that the bibby stockholm home, which can accommodate 500 people, could arrive later this week. neither stand up to racism. dorset or no to the barge group want it moored at portland port. it's part of the government's plan to reduce costs by moving migrants out of hotel rooms . the bbc is out of hotel rooms. the bbc is reportedly investigating a claim that one of its well known presenters paid a teenager for explicit pictures. it's alleged that the man paid more than £35,000 for the images with the sun saying the young person was

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which removes that vat exemption which removes that vat exemption which uk private schools are covered by due to their charitable status . basically charitable status. basically removing the charitable status now if elected next year. labour believes the move could raise an extra £16 billion for education. and keir starmer himself has argued that it would pay himself has argued that it would pay for the most ambitious school improvement programme for a generation. but do you think perhaps his plans are literally the most ambitious plans and not realistic at all? what do you think? are these suggestions by the ridiculous? so the labour party ridiculous? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is labour's school fund policy funding realistic ? let's funding policy realistic? let's see what panel make of that . see what my panel make of that. joining me, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, also political sam political commentator sam dowler. la la la la la. i'm going to start with you, dora fowler. did you private fowler. did you go to private school? did. did you? school? i did. did you? >> and your mum and >> i did, yes. and your mum and dad want their money back? >> mean, well. >> well, i mean, well. >> well, i mean, well. >> and dad , my dad was a bit >> and my dad, my dad was a bit of cockney and he even of a cockney geezer and he even sent me to elocution lessons when very young. you when i was very young. so you

say like this? say you still speak like this? >> as well. say you still speak like this? >> i as well. say you still speak like this? >> i know, as well. say you still speak like this? >> i know, so. as well. say you still speak like this? >> i know, so. but as well. say you still speak like this? >> i know, so. but do as well. say you still speak like this? >> i know, so. but do you well. say you still speak like this? >> i know, so. but do you know what this is? this is something that back that michael gove said back in 2017. said it was a burning 2017. he said it was a burning injustice that was obviously injustice and that was obviously coming from the tory party. so yes, i do. i do think that it is it possible . well, i think it is possible. well, i think obviously school fees. i know the school fees where i went were extortionate and they can be and if there's anything wrong that can maybe close the gap between private schools and state schools, then surely they should at least try it. >> this is this is going to be a new government. >> maybe they >> and, you know, maybe they maybe know, they need maybe they you know, they need to bit and to shake things up a bit and i think this is this is this is one of the reasons one the one of the reasons one of the ways go about ways they're going to go about it. think it's a great it. and i think it's a great idea, got say. idea, i've got to say. >> i think on keir starmer's report, say could do report, it would say could do better. he certainly better. and he certainly wouldn't in maths wouldn't do very well in maths because he's that this because he's saying that this could raise 1.6 billion and experts are saying it's going to be far less than that. and what this is doing is stripping young people from opportunities. and i

think it's really sad we're going to have oversubscribed state schools and this has got jeremy corbyn written all over it. and we know what happened to his leadership campaign. it was a shipwreck. >> but what about michael gove, though ? and also also, like though? and also and also, like it's there was it's things like there was i think don't know if was think i don't know if it was michael or, keir starmer michael gove or, or keir starmer said college said that winchester college has a a rifle and a rowing club, a rifle club and extensive collection. know extensive art collection. i know my partner, he went to a state school and he laughs when i tell him about my fencing lessons and stuff my my stuff like that and my and my sailing lessons and he's like, that's and course that's ridiculous. and of course . let tell you . and actually, let me tell you , the parents are paying for that. >> yes, they pay. i went to both. i went to comprehensive both. i went to a comprehensive school year. my grades school for one year. my grades slid. to a private slid. then i went to a private school my grades back. school and my grades went back. bottom is why should people school and my grades went back. bottom doing why should people school and my grades went back. bottom doing well should people school and my grades went back. bottom doing well beiuld people school and my grades went back. bottom doing well be pushed ple school and my grades went back. bottom doing well be pushed out who are doing well be pushed out for people who aren't doing as well? it doesn't make sense. it's a tax on aspiration. private schools don't just provide just education. my old school provides a service where a car goes out and picks up all

the old people and takes them for lunch for free and stuff like that . there's lots of like that. there's lots of people get scholarships. there's way than that. it's way more to it than that. it's not simplistic as pupils are not as simplistic as pupils are skipping opportunities and add value to their to add value to the economy and engineering scientist hinckley. >> and they are missing out on the opportunity. and now the state schools are going to be oversubscribed. what oversubscribed. and what i'll tell starmer tell you what keir starmer should funding should be looking at funding mentally, what on in the mentally, what goes on in the classroom room? we have pupils identifying as a cat. i mean, how about look at what a woman is ? i mean, that is why he is? i mean, that is why he cannot be our prime minister. >> he has talked about what's going on in the classroom. he talked about so speaking, talked about rac. so speaking, which annoying because which is annoying because i think he's trying to get away from fact that if this from the fact that if this ludicrous policy. >> mean, that's a joke. >> well, i mean, that's a joke. can angela can he not talk to angela rayner? also talks rayner? no. and also he talks like daleks from, like one of the daleks from, from doctor. >> perhaps he could work out whether is first. whether what a woman is first. >> very personal >> and that's very personal and he woman is and he knows what a woman is and they and also know and also they say and also know and also know has identified , know nobody has identified, nobody has identified a why

nobody has identified as a why couldn't he answer the question ? >> why couldn't 7 >> why couldn't keir starmer answer the question , what is a answer the question, what is a woman? he couldn't woman? because he couldn't answer at time woman? because he couldn't anrwas at time woman? because he couldn't anrwas being at time woman? because he couldn't anrwas being trappedt time woman? because he couldn't anrwas being trapped into time woman? because he couldn't anrwas being trapped into .time he was being trapped into. >> it was it was everybody . >> it was it was everybody. everybody was asking the same question . and he just fumbled question. and he just fumbled over what said . yeah, but you over what he said. yeah, but you keep it every time keep saying it every single time . it hasn't it . like he has never it hasn't it hasn't happened since . it hasn't hasn't happened since. it hasn't happened since then. and like and he just fell over his words. he knows woman is over he knows what a woman is over his a woman is. he >> he knows what a woman is. he wasn't say wasn't prepared to say it because to on the because he wanted to sit on the fence, because he didn't want to cause anyone at all. cause offence to anyone at all. and good enough and that's not good enough for a leader, especially where women are for are concerned who will vote for him. now he's talking about ora kwasi even. i can't kwasi or rac even. i can't even say oracle. see he's talking about can't he about rac. well, why can't he orate a woman is he orate that? what a woman is he struggled with that. >> look, he this is again, this is a a point is just a it's a moot point because this was said at such a long ago. and obviously, long time ago. and obviously, if somebody question somebody asked him that question now, different now, he would have a different answer happened now, he would have a different ans'last happened now, he would have a different ans'last of happened now, he would have a different ans'last of course happened now, he would have a different ans'last of course he appened the last time of course he would. course, he's trying would. of course, he's trying to please course. please everyone, of course. >> forget what we're >> but we've forget what we're talking taking talking about here is taking away status of these

away the charity status of these private schools. >> it's so it's not even >> so it's not so it's not even they're away or they're not taking away funds or anything that. they're anything like that. they're taking status taking away the charity status so it's about so that so therefore, it's about it's about it's about the 20% of vat that they that they don't charge on, on the fees . and the charge on, on the fees. and the fees obviously extremely fees are obviously extremely extortionate anyway. >> otherwise they >> yeah. because otherwise they can claim that but know it just seems a bit but it's taxing, it's only 70% of children who attend independent schools, so that would be drop the ocean. >> and i just remind you of >> and can i just remind you of keir starmer because he's got snobbery in reverse . who went to snobbery in reverse. who went to uni education? john lydon so sam, let will the real keir starmer stand up, please? >> look, he's . starmer stand up, please? >> look, he's. he's obviously he's the leader of the opposition in. so what, he's, you know, maybe he's trying to find a footing. he's trying obviously he has flip flop on certain few things. then certain few things. but then look at the look at the look at look at the look at the current at current government. we have at the flop and the moment who flip flop and they're mess on they're a big old mess on a on a million things. look at liz truss like destroying the mortgage sector few a few mortgage sector in a few a few short weeks. mortgage sector in a few a few short vyso (s. mortgage sector in a few a few short vyso i.. mortgage sector in a few a few short vyso i don't think that's >> no so i don't think that's fair to that on. liz truss

fair to put that on. liz truss that was the raising of interest rates happen. the bank rates needed to happen. the bank of made of of england have made a mess of things. blame the of england have made a mess of thingsof blame the of england have made a mess of thingsof banks. 3lame the mess of the banks. >> starmer should be >> keir starmer should be talking the talking fundamentally about the quality and what talking fundamentally about the qualion and what talking fundamentally about the qualion in and what talking fundamentally about the qualion in the and what talking fundamentally about the qualion in the classroom.�*|at goes on in the classroom. >> and if if >> absolutely. and if and if he's up with an he's and if he's come up with an idea might improve state idea that might improve state schools that education schools and close that education gap, all power so gap, then all power to him. so lisa trying to say can't lisa him trying to say we can't let somebody try something that's fisted ridiculous that's ham fisted and ridiculous , first of because a lot of , first of all, because a lot of people leave of people are going to leave out of that out of the private system. >> now, imagine they're paying the are paying the parents are paying twice those be to those parents won't be able to afford then you might end afford it. so then you might end up kids lower grades up with kids with lower grades because anything up with kids with lower grades beimprove anything up with kids with lower grades beimprove standard anything up with kids with lower grades beimprove standard of 'thing to improve the standard of education that education in the schools that they're them now they're sending them to. so now you've kids and you've got more kids failing and you've got more kids failing and you've more burden on the you've got more burden on the education of education system. none of it adds not to get adds up. he's not going to get the wants . the money he wants. >> this is all conjecture. and unless unless it's actually unless unless it's actually unless he tries to do it, then and then we'll see how it works out then. i mean, actually stripping he's stripping pupils of opportunities . stripping he's stripping pupils of opportunities. in what stripping he's stripping pupils of opportunities . in what way stripping he's stripping pupils of opportunities. in what way ? of opportunities. in what way? >> having them leave private schools. >> so he's not making them leave

private schools. >> the parents can't afford because parents be because the parents won't be able to afford it. so the majority for majority of people for the school i went to there were some super uber, uber wealthy, wealthy the majority wealthy people, but the majority of people were like my parents, who , so hard of people were like my parents, wiget , so hard of people were like my parents, wiget enough , so hard of people were like my parents, wiget enough money , so hard of people were like my parents, wiget enough money to so hard of people were like my parents, wiget enough money to sendard to get enough money to send those because they knew they the value of good education as value of a good education as should the government, which is why be improving why they should be improving education board education across the board rather than creaming off the top from people who just from people who who are just scraping barrel to try and scraping the barrel to try and afford children to afford to send their children to get because get a better education because the a failure. the state system is a failure. >> don't necessarily >> well, we don't necessarily know would the know that it would be the case. we don't don't. we don't we don't we don't. a lot people have said that lot of people have said that would case. would be the case. >> my parents wouldn't have been able it. able to afford it. >> don't probably >> well, i don't think probably my been able my parents would have been able to but you wouldn't be but >> but you wouldn't be here, but at time, wouldn't i be at the same time, wouldn't i be here i? here or would i? >> because, i mean, when >> i could because, i mean, when i was private school, i found i was at private school, i found myself, was myself, you know, there was some other the many other people in the class, many people a people in the class who were a lot cleverer me. so. so i lot cleverer than me. so. so i didn't try as hard. no, because it because less it was because it was less competition. whereas whereas it was because it was less competwas. whereas whereas it was because it was less competwas. wher< state 1ereas it was because it was less competwas. wher< state school it was because it was less compethat, wher

i did try really hard. i mean, it's, it is all. and what he's saying subjects saying about creative subjects as these these are as well, i mean these these are going up with load of going to end up with a load of this is a jeremy this is a this is a jeremy corbyn is jeremy it's >> this is a jeremy it's a michael policy. it'sjeremy michael gove policy. it's jeremy corbyn. starmer. corbyn. good old starmer. he never policy, but michael never has a policy, but michael gove was was gove said it was said it was unjust and that was six years ago. unfair on on ago. so unfair on on on those and miss out on and they're going to miss out on opportunities country opportunities this country will miss don't think if you >> i don't think that if you improve system, you don't >> i don't think that if you improve the system, you don't >> i don't think that if you improve the system you don't >> i don't think that if you improve the system by u don't >> i don't think that if you improve the system by making the system that's well, taking improve the system by making the system from s well, taking improve the system by making the system from that well, taking improve the system by making the system from that because taking improve the system by making the system from that because theng improve the system by making the system from that because then in money from that because then in the what will happen is the end, what will happen is that down. so that system will go down. so instead it down, instead of taking it down, improving you're improving one system, you're going down two. think going to take down two. i think you're of the you're in any danger of the private schools coming down. >> state schools are going private schools coming down. >> be state schools are going private schools coming down. >>be oversubscribed are going private schools coming down. >>be oversubscribed .are going to be oversubscribed. >> schools might >> some private schools might close because they're not getting the funding because the parents to go. parents won't be able to go. then people then you've got more people going state in going to the state schools in actual parents actual fact, those parents are doing favour doing the government a favour by paying doing the government a favour by paying only state paying not only for the state education not education that they're not sending their children to, but also paying for private education. makes sense education. so it makes no sense now starmer put that now for keir starmer to put that up. it's politics of up. i think it's politics of envy he's envy as far as i think he's trying to grab headlines. trying to grab the headlines. >> and let me tell you, he's estimating raise estimating this will raise 1.6 billion every

billion absolute. not every expert is saying is, but expert is saying this is, but we're not we're not economists. >> if that's >> so we don't know if that's the however, obviously the case. but however, obviously , you you at all the , you know, you look at all the teacher etcetera , you teacher strikes, etcetera, you can guarantee they're not can guarantee that they're not private out private school teachers out there on the front line doing doing they doing well because they get because better. because they get paid better. >> they need >> well, they don't need to because like because listen, it's just like getting private private getting your private private health or you wait for the health care or you wait for the national health service if you're prepared it, you're to prepared pay for it, you're to prepared pay for it, you service. you can get a better service. and with private and that's the one with private schools. see what schools. well, let's see what viewers think of oh, viewers think of that. oh, where's british voices where's my great british voices their on the their opportunity to be on the show what think show and tell us what they think about we're about the topics we're discussing where go discussing. where should we go to? i've four you , so to? i've got four of you, so let's go. let's start . oh, my let's go. let's start. oh, my god. oh, look at all those nice little faces. let's start with jonathan jones. he's there in cornwall. nice to see cornwall. jonathan nice to see you, nana . yeah. you, nana. yeah. >> think we should get the politics out . time. politics out. time. >> bring your gb news plan. >> bring your gb news plan. >> to has really low >> speak to has got really low expectations >> speak to has got really low expecwhen s >> speak to has got really low expecwhen it comes to education. >> when everyone i speak to says just let the teachers get on with their jobs, it's with their jobs, whether it's private, whatever type private, public or whatever type of school. the number one thing

is give teachers the scope to do the jobs that they've been trained to do. >> yeah. cool. cheers next >> yeah. yeah. cool. cheers next time. gb news mug got one. next time. gb news mug got one. next time . right. let's go to brian time. right. let's go to brian doogan. he's been told now. sorry. oh, brian , what do you sorry. oh, brian, what do you think? hi, nana. hi. >> yeah , i think. look, um , you >> yeah, i think. look, um, you used the phrase earlier about the state school system being a failure. well, then we've got to address that if that's the case. and i think any way in which we're trying to address that, you we can't just poo poo you know, we can't just poo poo it. we don't. we don't know the full it. i don't full economics of it. i don't know whether it will raise £1.7 billion or not. what he is suggesting. keir starmer but what i do know is in terms of i agree with you, you cannot remove that element of aspiration at any level. so at the level that you're speaking of, which i utterly agree with in terms of people who work really hard and want their their children to advance themselves and have the opportunity because that's what we all want. but

equally that should be open to all. and michael gove it was not keir who used the phrase keir starmer who used the phrase the bigotry of low the soft bigotry of low expectations . and i think we expectations. and i think we have to factor that in as well. nana so i agree , absolutely. nana so i agree, absolutely. aspiration is sacrosanct, but it should be aspiration for. >> all right, let's go to mike donovan in oxfordshire. mike yeah, hi nana. donovan in oxfordshire. mike yeah, hi nana . 1.7 billion yeah, hi nana. 1.7 billion represents about 2% of the current education budget, but i'm always a man economy first, and i do believe my daughter's been at private school and at and at state school . and at state school. >> well, i believe that if you actually tax private schools, you're going to increase the divide . divide. >> it will become a it will it will marginal rise. >> the middle classes or the middle group. >> the middle classes or the middle group . and i think it middle group. and i think it won't be i'm yeah, i don't think it will be of great benefit . i it will be of great benefit. i think the issue for teachers is

the pressures that they're under today. the pressures that they're under today . they're under enormous today. they're under enormous pressure . and so i believe that pressure. and so i believe that , you know, state schools should be made to be better and more efficient and should be taken out of this . out of this. >> you know, the politicisation of education. >> and there should be freedom of choice. >> i agree. it's freedom of choice. i mean, how dare they take that away? let's finally go to he's in to lee webb. he's there in bedfordshire. lee you know what? >> we've got quite a few private schools in bedford and a lot of them private schools. >> they do really good stuff within the community for they they let their swimming pools out to the public, etcetera , to out to the public, etcetera, to various clubs. >> and we've got about 7% of the children, i believe , that are in children, i believe, that are in private education. now, that massively goes up to sixth form, which is around about 17 to 18% of children in private education. so a lot of them are on scholarships. we start taxing. >> they're going to lose their

scholarships. and so therefore, the education is going to come down. and i think it's going to cost more to provide places for a lot of these private school kids that won't be able to afford to go to private school anymore. >> you think you'd worked that out? he hasn't. he wants out? but he hasn't. he wants to do he's to do that when he's going to u—turn, obviously. right. well, listen, much, listen, thank you very much, jonathan , mike jonathan jones in solihull, mike donovan in oxfordshire, and lee webb in bedfordshire. thank you very it's time now very much. right. it's time now for our quick fire quizzes. two part where my part of the show where i test my panel the other panel on some of the other topics headlines topics hitting the headlines right now. i'm joined by broadcast columnist broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. lizzie, your buzzer, please. sam dowell, please. and sam dowell, a political commentator. your buzzer question one, please play along at home. mark zuckerberg has recently launched a new social media site, but what other site is it a direct competitor to? is it a twitter, 5. competitor to? is it a twitter, b, instagram or c, snapchat ? ooh b, instagram or c, snapchat? ooh sam dowler it's threads and i'm on it already. >> no, you didn't answer the question. >> oh, sorry. twitter. >> oh, sorry. twitter. >> twitter. >> twitter. >> i'm afraid i have to take your first answer. one nil to

lizzie . lizzie cundy. >> that's fair. >> that's not fair. >> that's not fair. >> the question i'm joined it, but know what to but i don't know what to do on it. it'sjust like it. it's just it's just like twitter go through your twitter and you go through your instagram instagram, be honest. >> yes, it is. yeah >>— >> yes, it is. yeah >> yeah. so the answer >> well, yeah. so the answer is, of name of of course, twitter the name of the threads sign the app is threads and you sign up instagram up through your instagram account goodness account and thank goodness it saves all the oh saves you from doing all the oh god.so saves you from doing all the oh god. so a&e. oh saves you from doing all the oh god. so a&e. on jesus. >> and keep our blue ticks . >> and we keep our blue ticks. >> and we keep our blue ticks. >> the blue ticks. i've got blue tick. got tick. on have you got one? >> i'll one. thank you. >> i'll get you one. thank you. >> i'll get you one. thank you. >> lizzie. right. >> yeah. thanks, lizzie. right. question famed speed question two famed, famed speed eater joey chestnut made the news headlines this week for eating an astonishing amount of hot in ten minutes. but hot dogs in ten minutes. but how many he eat? many hot dogs did he eat? closest answer wins . sam dowler closest answer wins. sam dowler 5656. lizzie cundy i'm going to say 4545. you've got to eat more than that. 60 to 62. that was closest, 62 hot dogs. yes. how many did you eat, lizzie? >> oh, i've eaten many a hot dog in my time . like a sausage. in my time. like a sausage. >> we all like a sausage. sausage in a bun. >> i'll ask you dodi not asking. >> i'll ask you dodi not asking. >> you do you have. do you have to chew them?

>> well? yeah. all right, we'll move on because i think that's going down a scary, scary hole. right? that's what they say. three just pop oil at it again this week , they interrupted this week, they interrupted a wimbledon match with orange paint. but what else ? did they paint. but what else? did they interrupt the match with ? was it interrupt the match with? was it a jigsaw pieces , three b strips a jigsaw pieces, three b strips of bacon or c, hundreds of keys ? oh, sam taylor, again , you're ? oh, sam taylor, again, you're so slow. on ? oh, sam taylor, again, you're so slow. oh oh, i don't know this one. >> hundreds of keys. >> hundreds of keys. >> hundreds of keys. >> it's the first one. a is >> it's the first one. a what is what. lots of sorry. jiggle pieces. thank you. all right. >> they wouldn't put bacon on the. it is actually lizzie cundy's. right. jigsaw pieces. it's 2—1 question true or it's 2—1 question for true or false . a river in japan was false. a river in japan was turned purple this week . lizzie turned purple this week. lizzie cundy true . cundy true. >> true. i'm going to say true as well. >> say true. what is false ? i >> say true. what is false? i don't know. it was. >> well, you just had to say no, because i because i actually genuinely thought it was true. >> 5050. well, now you know what your brain is. did it's mush.

it's false . it actually turned it's false. it actually turned green. the chemicals used in making the bath salts were dumped into the river in a japan turning the river green. final question. an aldi shopper got quite the surprise this week when strange, a strange when he found strange, a strange creature back of creature in the back of broccoli. was that broccoli. but what was that creature? a deadly creature? was it, a, a deadly spider? snake or a spider? b, a snake or c, a begum. lizard. snake. snake begum. .uk lizard. snake. snake >> well, it was a snake, but now ihave >> well, it was a snake, but now i have to say a spider. >> no, it's a snake . snake? >> no, it's a snake. snake? a snake. not you on today's snake. it's not you on today's show, it's time for the bbc to stop expecting public to stop expecting the public to pay- stop expecting the public to pay. the twitter pay. according to the twitter poll, you said yes. and poll, 92% of you said yes. and 8% say no. thank you so 8% of you say no. thank you so much to my panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. lizzie, very and lizzie, thank you very much. and political commentator sam dowler. thank dowler. and a huge thank you to you watching. i'll you at home for watching. i'll see tomorrow . at three. the see you tomorrow. at three. the temperatures are rising, boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm greg >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast

where we continue to see some heavy showers , possible heavy showers, possible thunderstorms through the rest of the weekend and still fairly warm and humid across the uk . warm and humid across the uk. looking at the bigger picture in this area of low pressure just sits west allowing sits to the west of us allowing that warm air come up from that warm air to come up from the and the near continent and developing clouds developing those shower clouds and thunderstorms across the uk right through the rest of the weekend . and still weekend. and we still have thundery across the thundery showers across the north this saturday north and east this saturday evening . could some local evening. could be some local disruption , some longer spells disruption, some longer spells of scotland , north—east of rain for scotland, north—east england too, into the england for a time too, into the early hours. but for many it will quieter. there'll be will become quieter. there'll be clear spells, but still fairly warm and humid tonight, particularly lows particularly in the east. lows of 17 or 18 degrees was the west will be a little fresher sunday morning . a bright start for many morning. a bright start for many cloud and outbreaks of showery rain into south—east rain pushing into south—east england and the rain across scotland takes time clear scotland takes its time to clear here. and then it's the day of sunny spells and heavy showers. once more showers, most frequent across of the uk. across western parts of the uk. some thunderstorms could lead to some local disruption,

particularly parts of northern ireland into wales , southwest ireland into wales, southwest england to and temperatures overall a little lower compared to saturday. highs around 25 or 26 celsius into the evening time. thunderstorms continue to push their way northwards, but they will ease by the end of the day. and then overnight, we're looking at clear skies once more and temperatures just dropping a little lower compared to recent nights. but still, townsend city's 13 to 15 celsius. so it means a bright start for many on monday morning . plenty of sunny monday morning. plenty of sunny spells, thicker cloud across the north of scotland. and then all eyes to the west of this area of low pressure starts to bring in more showery rain into western parts affecting parts of northern ireland, wales