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gb news. >> hello, good afternoon. welcome to gb news sunday. it is 1 pm. i am welcome to gb news sunday. it is 1p.m. i am emily carver. we have got a rip roarer of a show for you this lunchtime. coming up this hour, bbc in crisis claims a well known presenter, a household name no less, has been paying household name no less, has been paying a teenager for explicit pictures. that's dominating the headlines. culture secretary lucy frazer will hold urgent talks with the bbc today. then sleepy joe heads to the uk . the sleepy joe heads to the uk. the us president will meet the king
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and the prime minister tomorrow. but after a series of snubs, i'm asking , does but after a series of snubs, i'm asking, does biden hate britain and just stop oil.7 are asking, does biden hate britain and just stop oil? are back at it again. this time they crashed a former chancellor's wedding but has just stopped. oil actually managed to make people feel sorry for george osborne. please do get in touch on all of those topics and more. send them through gb views at gb news dot com or tweet me at gb news. but before we get into all of that, it's the news headlines with rory . rory. >> thank you very much. emily the bbc's director general will speak to the culture secretary this afternoon about claims the presenter paid a teenager for explicit images. describe the allegations as deeply concerning senior government officials told the broadcaster they must be investigated urgently and sensitively. it's after the young person's mother told the sun she saw a photo of the man
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in his underwear on her child's phone. former conservative party leader sir iain duncan smith says the case has not been handled properly by the bbc . handled properly by the bbc. >> i don't quite know what they're doing. it's an a mess, clearly if you read the newspaper reports, you can see that the bbc tried to play that the bbc has tried to play this from the beginning and this down from the beginning and it's not worked because it's exploded. they have any exploded. they don't have any plan inquiry is that plan on any inquiry is that they're taking place. seem to be a mess. and that's led to a whole series of reputational damage across the newspapers to the bbc, the bbc should act like everybody else does immediately suspend pending the suspend somebody pending the investigation and that way it's clear. and then he can get on with it at this stage, try and do it quietly and behind the scenes. it never works because somebody has blown the gaff and they're trouble it. they're in trouble over it. >> more than 1000 people have crossed the channel small crossed the channel on small boats over the past two days. the home office says over 600 people were intercept on friday and almost 400 made the journey
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yesterday . well, despite storm yesterday. well, despite storm warnings, conditions are calm and gb news understand that more than 200 people have already been interviewed . spotted just been interviewed. spotted just this morning. it brings this year's total to 12,700. the home office says the number of people risking their lives is unacceptable . britain is unacceptable. britain is preparing to host the us president , who's due to arrive president, who's due to arrive this evening . joe biden will this evening. joe biden will meet the king at windsor castle tomorrow. then he'll hold talks with the prime minister. rishi sunak, where he is expected to raise concerns about brexit. america's decision to send cluster munitions to ukraine could also be discussed as well. joe biden's visit comes ahead of the nato summit in lithuania, where the prime minister will urge allies to bolster their defence spending. speaking in vilnius and tuesday, rishi sunak is expected to say that we're seeing unprecedented security challenges . the uk seeing unprecedented security challenges. the uk remains one of the few nato members meeting
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the alliance's requirement to spend at least 2% of national income on defence, more than 700 firearms have been seized in the uk by the national crime agency. forces have been working with police in spain to stop guns which can easily be converted from entering the uk in 11 cases, firearms were sent to people with mental health issues and seven involved people with extremist views. the cs says 74 people have been arrested , people have been arrested, resulting in 50 convictions over the past five years. the chancellor is set to outline so—called evolution pension reforms to boost economic growth. jeremy hunt plans to make changes to pension funds, encouraging investors to support fast growing businesses as well. in a speech tomorrow, he's expected to say the changes will be gradual, not drastic . the be gradual, not drastic. the government says the aim is to help savers pension schemes and
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the uk . concerns have been the uk. concerns have been raised about the thousands of displaced ukrainians who are still in temporary accommodation in scotland . the liberal in scotland. the liberal democrats say more than 3000 ukrainians are still in hotels and around 700 are on board. the ms victoria cruise ship the party says progress has been slow and it criticised the lack of resources as the government says it's working on longer term housing and the met office is warning of more heavy showers and thunderstorms as it's after rain and storms disrupted. major sporting events like wimbledon and the ashes yesterday. the met office is predicting prolonged heavy rain in scotland where northern ireland will face strong winds, hail and even potential flooding. heavy showers are also expected to hit wales , the midlands and wales, the midlands and south—west england. it's a gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to .
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to. emily >> thank you, rory. yes. so urgent talks are to take place today between the culture secretary and the bbc director general. that's as the ongoing scandal threatens to consume the corporation . ian this comes corporation. ian this comes after revelations an unnamed star, a household name at the corporation, has been taken off air following allegations they paid a teenager for sexually explicit pictures . is just to be explicit pictures. is just to be very clear, these are only allegations at this time. but gb news political reporter olivia utley joins me now . olivia these utley joins me now. olivia these are extremely shocking allegations, if true . can you allegations, if true. can you bnng allegations, if true. can you bring us the very latest , hugely bring us the very latest, hugely shocking allegations . shocking allegations. >> yes. what happened essentially was that a mother of a teenage age child went to the bbc and complained that she had seen on her son or daughter's
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computer . after a conversation computer. after a conversation between this person and a household name, bbc star. and she, the mother , asked the bbc she, the mother, asked the bbc to investigate thoroughly and speak to the presenter involved about it . well, she didn't about it. well, she didn't really hear anything else . and really hear anything else. and the next night she saw that presenter on air again. now that was back in may, and that is part of the problem. we are now two months on the mother felt that nothing was being done about it. and so in frustration, she to the sun newspaper she went to the sun newspaper and told her whole story. she did not get paid by the sun newspaper to tell her story. and what she says is that the only reason she's coming out now and explaining she explaining this is that she wants this person be off air. wants this person to be off air. she says that it's ruined her child's life, that it's been funding his or her crack cocaine addiction and it's taken away their innocence, the innocence of their child. so it's a really terrible story for the bbc , an terrible story for the bbc, an awful human element as well. and
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now today, it feels as though the spotlight is very much on the spotlight is very much on the bbc itself. now it's emerged that these allegations were came out two months ago. nothing seems to have been done. the culture secretary, lucy frazer is speaking to tim is going to be speaking to tim davie, director of the bbc, davie, the director of the bbc, later on today . and this later on today. and this morning, we've had politicians from all parties really laying into the bbc's handling of the process. we've had priti patel, the former home secretary and a darling of the tory right, saying that the bbc has become a nameless and faceless organisation and that broadcasting gods are able to pretty much get away with anything. i'm paraphrasing, but. but that was the gist of what she was saying. we've had rachel reeves the shadow chancellor, saying that the presenter should be taken off air while this investigation is being held. and of course now lucy frazer, representing the government, is meeting with tim davie. so i think over the next few days we can expect this story to develop. you will remember how long phillip schofield story long the phillip schofield story was making page news for. was making front page news for. and i think now what we're
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seeing is a turn away from not just criticism of the presenter himself, who of course might have in some have been involved in in some sort of illegal action as well . sort of illegal action as well. that's going to be investigated thoroughly later on. we don't know if that's the case, but also how the bbc's processes work. is it right that a, that a taxpayer funded organisation can sort of keep something this quiet, this keeps something this big under wraps for so long? and that's what i think we'll be heanng that's what i think we'll be hearing more of in the next few days. yes >> olivia, just very quickly, i don't know if you've seen the front page sunday mirror, front page of the sunday mirror, but are reporting that the but they are reporting that the bbc host in question parted with bosses at an awards do after these sex allegations were made against him. so the bbc may well be opening itself up to the accusation that there was protection of this talent going on. >> well, absolutely . what the >> well, absolutely. what the bbc is, is essentially saying at the moment is that it will investigate anything any any new
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information that comes forward. it admits it heard the complaint, but it says there wasn't enough information to follow it through. now it says it will investigate further information in whatever way it comes to light. so through the sun newspaper, it will investigate, say investigate, but as you say right now, the organisation is has really opened itself up to a lot of criticism , um, that in lot of criticism, um, that in the time between the middle of may when that mother came forward and very little forward and now very little seems to have been done and it's possible that as you say. bbc chief were were actually entertaining this presenter and there were definitely keeping him on air. >> thank you very much, olivia . >> thank you very much, olivia. olivia there outside the bbc. our gb news political reporter there giving us the very latest on this bbc scandal. now a bbc spokesperson did say on friday we treat any allegations very seriously and we have processes in place to proactively deal with them as part of that. if we receive information that requires further investigation or examination, we will take
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steps to do this. that includes actively attempting to speak to those who have contacted us in order to seek further detail and understand adding the understand adding of the situation. get no reply situation. if we get no reply to our attempts receive no our attempts or receive no further that can limit further contact, that can limit our to progress things. our ability to progress things. but mean our but it does not mean our inquiries stop. if at any point new information comes to light or is provided, including via newspapers , this will be acted newspapers, this will be acted upon appropriately in line with internal processes. well, there we go. that was quite a long statement, quite a detailed statement, quite a detailed statement the bbc. statement there from the bbc. they are saying that they will be investigating this fully and cooperating as they should. so let's see what my panel make of this. i am joined by peter whittle, director the new whittle, director of the new culture . and i whittle, director of the new culture .and i also whittle, director of the new culture . and i also have culture forum. and i also have stephen pound, former labour mp, with this afternoon. well with me this afternoon. well stephen, you heard what olivia had to say, though. she brought us the very latest on this scandal that is engulf ing the bbc. now there is a debate to be had over whether this person, this presenter, this household name, should now be named .
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name, should now be named. >> well, there's a couple of things about this. >> first, that apology from the bbc was a cut and paste job. we used to the same thing in the used to do the same thing in the whips all the same. whips office. it's all the same. we these things very we take these things very seriously. will, course, seriously. we will, of course, be investigating, know, cut be investigating, you know, cut and need, i think and paste. they need, i think the is now the position the bbc is now in the position where and i think olivia was absolutely right to point this out. about out. we're talking about criminality. talking about criminality. we're talking about grooming. about an grooming. we're talking about an aduu grooming. we're talking about an adult position authority adult in a position of authority and another and power influencing another person into person without even going into the the drugs the details of the drugs and everything but everything like that. but i'm just wondering, is there a time when a certain organisation becomes huge, so bloated, so becomes so huge, so bloated, so out of touch with its original founding is founding purposes and the nhs is probably example of that, where people start to believe their own you look, you know, own myth. if you look, you know, the that's how the thames water, that's how many organisations many companies and organisations and have and structures which have outgrown their original assumption now assumption and they are now almost , they actually they almost, they actually they believe they can do no wrong. and i think this will fuel the anti bbc feeling that the bbc is not only player on the pitch not the only player on the pitch nowadays. looking at you. nowadays. i'm looking at you. >> i mean there's very much not well but you know, there was
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well no but you know, there was a know, in my day when a time, you know, in my day when i your age, it was the bbc. i was your age, it was the bbc. >> we didn't have atv or itv, but now they're not the only but so now they're not the only players. the old argument players. so the old argument about the national about being we are the national broadcaster. and i think firstly, there'll be a fuel, a fury against the in fury against the bbc in parliament. secondly i think we're end up possibly we're going to end up possibly with sector with a psb, a public sector broadcasting system as you have in which is perfectly in america, which is a perfectly good you good television program. but you subscribe you choose to subscribe to it, you choose to listen you to pay listen to it, you choose to pay for it. >> very interesting that you say that because that would be quite an unpopular the current an unpopular view in the current labour imagine. labour party, i would imagine. >> believe it? me seek >> don't you believe it? me seek to protect the bbc at all costs. >> peter do you think stephen makes point there about makes a good point there about what about the and what this says about the bbc and other publicly owned organisations ? organisations? >> oh, definitely. >> oh, definitely. >> i think the whole bbc licence should be scrapped . should be scrapped. >> there you go. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> there's no question about that. >> e- that. >> this particular case. >> with this particular case. >> with this particular case. >> and obviously, as you say, there are allegations . there are allegations. >> think the only thing >> emily, i think the only thing that the bbc could possibly do is to come clean quite quickly.
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>> i mean all of this kind of is it two months, i think olivia said that this has been kind of going on internally. it should basically look, we should learn from past mistakes . it's really from past mistakes. it's really quite big mistakes , actually, quite big mistakes, actually, and simply come out and basically say, look , this is the basically say, look, this is the situation and we are handling it. but all this cloak and dagger stuff, i mean, it's just it will as stephen said, absolutely give ammunition to people who have got it in for the bbc and people like you, peter. >> oh, yes. >> oh, yes. >> i mean, i no , not for this reason. >> no, no, not for this reason, but different reasons. >> we've discussed on the show many times. >> but it adds the idea of >> but it adds to the idea of these people thinking perhaps that they are too big for their boots. yes. but it's boots. perhaps. yes. but it's worth our viewers what worth reminding our viewers what exactly a male exactly has been alleged a male presenter allegedly began paying a teenager when they were 17. he or she sent them money, which they used to fund an addiction to crack cocaine . that is the to crack cocaine. that is the allegation. that is a hugely shocking allegation. now
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stephen, to refer to the present after they have unfortunate only been presenters , well known male been presenters, well known male presenters who have had to come out publicly and say it wasn't me. so this is added pressure. well is it raining? >> you get out of my mouth. you know it ain't me, babe . but you know it ain't me, babe. but you know, i remember going to the bbc a couple of years ago in great portland street. they had rod stewart was was performing there. i thought, have there. and i thought, i'll have some that. as i up some of that. and as i went up the stairs you could see the stairs there, you could see these the wall where these spots on the wall where these spots on the wall where the paint different colour the paint was a different colour where they had to take down all the pictures of all these bbc obviously yewtree, obviously this was post yewtree, savile that. savile and everything like that. and there was, i think and i think there was, i think i can't remember. i think tony blackburn was the only person who left up there. and we're who was left up there. and we're getting that of getting to that sort of situation but what's situation now. but look, what's really horrific this, it's really horrific about this, it's not haven't mentioned not just you haven't mentioned the i think was about the money. i think it was about £35,000. talking about £35,000. they're talking about that that is grooming. that is awful. that is grooming. that using position of that is using a position of power, position of power, using a position of authority. it sounds to me
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authority. and it sounds to me as could erect a young as though it could erect a young life. the real horror, the life. but the real horror, the real shock is the bbc knew real shock here is the bbc knew about and entertained about this and they entertained this a warm white wine party. >> but then is there a line to be drawn because these are just allegations, until allegations, innocent until proven yes well, proven guilty, peter? yes well, unfortunately, live unfortunately, we don't live in that of environment anymore. >> mean, i think that . >> i mean, i think that. >> i mean, i think that. >> do you say that because we have social media where anyone is allowed an accusation is allowed to make an accusation against anyone? exactly >> terrible, terrible >> it's a terrible, terrible development that's happened. however, separate however, that's quite separate to talking about . i to what we're talking about. i think, as i said, i think the bbc should just simply, you know, act very, very quickly . we know, act very, very quickly. we not wait for any more long kind of internal investigations. i think the point is. well, is that, as you said earlier, that in fact, the bbc and other institutions, they do live in a kind of atmosphere where basically they are they do feel sort of untouchable. remember the kind of people that they mix with all the time . and the with all the time. and the people who work at the bbc are people who work at the bbc are people like them, you know, people just like them, you know, and i'd you know, the big nasty
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tabloid out there and tabloid press is out there and not to be taken seriously. so i think that that's what they should do because can you think about it you know this is on the sunday right this is going to dominate isn't it? dominate now, isn't it? >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and weeks until >> and weeks and weeks until someone's named. >> when you say talk about anti bbc the position of bbc bias, i'm the position of the brokenhearted ex—boyfriend on this particular because i love the bbc . i thought the bbc love the bbc. i thought the bbc was marvellous when you could watch on the bbc, you watch cricket on the bbc, you know, actually know, when it was actually authoritative it was, authoritative and it was, you know, educating authoritative and it was, you kn0\informing educating authoritative and it was, you kn0\informing , educating authoritative and it was, you kn0\informing , you educating authoritative and it was, you kn0\informing , you know,ing authoritative and it was, you kn0\informing , you know, the old and informing, you know, the old reithian motto , it was reithian motto, it was marvellous and i'm brokenhearted . that my love has gone . i feel that my love has gone off with milkman. i mean, off with the milkman. i mean, it's shocking. >> i'm sure you're the one who broke the heart. >> steve. >> steve. >> that basically, yes, >> i think that basically, yes, the not what it once was. the bbc is not what it once was. i do think that, you know, when you have to weigh it up, which i've done you well, i've done and you think, well, we got proms and we've got we got the proms and we've got this and that and they haven't got the cricket. and then you sort of wait a minute, sort of think, wait a minute, i for me the cultural damage they do now supersedes any benefit
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that had. that they once had. >> be interested to >> well, i'd be interested to know viewers and know what our viewers and listeners think about that. one. does bbc does this add to anti bbc sentiment? would you like to see the got or at least the bbc got rid of or at least the bbc got rid of or at least the licence fee? let us know. you are watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. emily carver. still should we carver. still ahead, should we commission royal yacht? commission a new royal yacht? michael thinks but do michael gove thinks so, but do you is it a waste of you agree? is it a waste of money or it something that we money or is it something that we should but first, should be proud of? but first, let's a look at weather let's take a look at the weather with greg. >> that warm feeling inside. aside boxed boilers , is aside from boxed boilers, is proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast where further showers and longer spells of rain over the next few days. there will be some sunshine though, but for many of us it will feel fresher. and the reason for this is this area of low pressure. it's been around over the last few days. just sat to the west of us. but over the coming few days, it actually spreads us and increases spreads towards us and increases the risk of showers and longer
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spells of rain even more. this evening. we do have thundery showers across the uk, but they will start to fade away and then most places overnight will see clear skies though towards the early hours, we could see some showers moving back into southwestern parts of the uk. temperatures generally in the low to mid teens. temperatures generally in the low to mid teens . so a little low to mid teens. so a little fresher than recent nights , but fresher than recent nights, but still quite warm for the time of yeah still quite warm for the time of year. monday morning gets off to a dry start for many, plenty of sunny spells, though the cloud quickly the quickly thickens from the southwest. rain southwest. this area of rain pushes north eastwards through the day, turning heavy at times, particularly across wales into the midlands , north—west england the midlands, north—west england to , we'll see a to elsewhere, we'll see a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers and the best of the sunshine towards the south—east. could highs south—east. we could see highs around 24 or 25 celsius elsewhere. generally the high teens to low 20s as that area of rain across north wales, northern england continues to push further north. as we head through the evening and then further spells of rain push into southern parts of the uk as we
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move into the early hours. this could be heavy at times, so overnight not a lot of cloud around outbreaks of rain and that will keep temperatures up generally higher, 14 to generally a little higher, 14 to 17 across much of the 17 degrees across much of the country . so it means a cloudy, country. so it means a cloudy, wet start for many tuesday morning. heavy showers already, but it should brighten up as we move through the morning into the afternoon. but that will trigger few heavy showers to trigger a few heavy showers to over the next few days. it remains unsettled as that low pressure stays in charge. further showers and longer spells of rain temperatures spells of rain than temperatures around average as that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers . boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on gb news news. thank you very much, greg. >> so we've got lots more coming up on the show. sleepy joe is heading to the uk. well, hey, but after a series of snubs from the president, i will be asking, does biden hate britain? i'm emily carver. you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news
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radio. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv online and radio . now your tv online and radio. now just before the break, we were discussing the bbc scandal that is rocking the organisation you've been getting in touch. len has written in. he says the latest fiasco with the bbc management and their presenter is of surprise as all these is of no surprise as all these hypocrites are the same strong stuff. but perhaps echoes a little bit what stephen pound was saying earlier about these organisations being a little bit high and mighty. organisations being a little bit high and mighty . john says once high and mighty. john says once again we see how our media play their power game on vulnerable folk. this complains this complaint should been complaint should have been reported immediately. yes, the accusation is that it was reported back in may and little has been done so far , lynn says. has been done so far, lynn says. amazing this person hasn't been named yet. if it was a tory mp, it would be splashed all over the papers and on bbc news that
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is a very good point and it does mean that a lot of presenters have had to come out publicly and say, oh , stop suggesting it and say, oh, stop suggesting it was me . it's not, which isn't was me. it's not, which isn't very fair for them. it's not really a great duty of care enhen really a great duty of care either. so please do keep your views coming in on that. subscribe youtube channel subscribe to our youtube channel while follow on while you're there. follow us on twitter. at gb news. but twitter. we're at gb news. but moving on to another big story of day, the white house says of the day, the white house says president joe biden will travel to london monday and meet to london this monday and meet with and prime minister with the king and prime minister rishi sunak during his visit, but the trip turned sour but has the trip turned sour already? the president is pushing for eu chief ursula von der leyen to be installed as the next nato secretary—general that's after blocking the uk candidate ben wallace . is this a candidate ben wallace. is this a harmless push , harmless push for harmless push, harmless push for a stronger europe in defiance of russia or in other shameless snub by sleepy joe? let me know what you think, but let's see what you think, but let's see what my panel makes of this. peter yes? is it harsh even to ask the question, does biden hate britain or does he a little
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bit ? bit? >> well, he does a good impression of it, or rather, should i say, being dismissive of it. there was that remark, you know, about i'm irish, you know, example , when asked by know, for example, when asked by the the bbc obe, i think that the by the bbc obe, i think that the by the bbc obe, i think that the whole attitude to britain by from america seems actually to have changed somewhat not. and i think that there's far less sympathy so much for a special relationship . i mean i think relationship. i mean i think that exists now purely in british minds. i can't see any real evidence that actually they look upon us in the same way that maybe we look upon them and i think it's been actually over for quite a long time. i at the last time, really, that there was a real sort of strong bond. if you're not counting, blair was was thatcher and reagan. but even then during that so—called special relationship even during that period, reagan was very sort of tentative about helping us out in the falklands. things
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like that. so i think that this is very much a i think they just don't think about us very much. and that's the point, not hatred i >>i -- >>ido -- >> i do not think trump, though, when he came in 2019, i think it was in the summer , he had was in the summer, he had a three day extravaganza here. there was talk of this big trade deal which biden has has gone very quiet on indeed. yes. but do you think trump reinvigorated that relationship somewhat ? that relationship somewhat? >> i, i don't think so. i think it was probably just a bit of a one off .uk i mean, you know, he there he was with the queen and making a huge fuss about the about the queen, quite rightly. but in fact, i think generally speaking there, we don't sort of register there in the same way that we think maybe we do. you know, we're just part of this thing called europe. look, i'm a huge patriot. i wish i weren't saying that, but i think it is the case. >> peter, i must point out that we've got on the screen and for those listening on radio, we've got a picture moving image of joe with chair. joe biden with his deck chair. well, moving very slowly, not to
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be rude , not to be ageist, but be rude, not to be ageist, but he moving very slowly he is moving very slowly with his chair the beach. and his deck chair on the beach. and this yesterday . he's having this was yesterday. he's having a very lovely time moving very slowly indeed. stephen but apparently he falls off his deck chair, so we'll keep an eye on that. stephen is a bit tragic to see joe biden come to well, get into a few scrapes, doesn't he? but i think this is about the special relationship. >> it's very interesting . you >> it's very interesting. you actually say the thatcher reagan thing. i mean, even at the height of rapprochement. height of that rapprochement. don't would go don't forget, reagan would go and grenada. not even and invade grenada. not even tell know, had no tell us. you know, we had no idea this was, you know, idea that this was, you know, part of the commonwealth. and, you know, he didn't give you know, he he didn't give anything think lyndon anything for us. i think lyndon johnson, remember when johnson, you remember when he tried harold to tried to get harold wilson to send vietnam? and can send troops to vietnam? and can you let have some you at least let us have some scotch guards bagpipes , scotch guards and bagpipes, please? and at the end please? you know, and at the end of it, he said, look, i'm sorry. the relationship the special relationship is gone. think it has. but the gone. i think it has. but the thing about biden that's fascinating i mean, spent fascinating is i mean, i spent so in northern ireland so much time in northern ireland when with with biden, when we worked with with biden, particularly in george mitchell and still
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and other people. i still actually follow congress and follow the papers. and there's a big york big headline in the new york times couple of months ago. it times a couple of months ago. it says biden's ira triumph. and i thought, but of course, thought, oh, no. but of course, it's reduction it's the inflation reduction act. was the new york times is >> it was the new york times is worth whole segment on worth doing a whole segment on because been running worth doing a whole segment on becauafter been running worth doing a whole segment on becau after piece. een running worth doing a whole segment on becau after piece. they unning worth doing a whole segment on becau after piece. they hate|g worth doing a whole segment on becau after piece. they hate the piece after piece. they hate the british. they do hate british. now they do hate negative about britain. but the evidence stacking isn't evidence is stacking up, isn't it, his wife, it, peter? he sent his wife, jill in his place to king's jill in his place to the king's coronation some saw that coronation some people saw that as of course, white as a snub. of course, the white house was no such thing. house say it was no such thing. he openly criticises the british government over brexit policy over northern over the northern ireland protocol. our defence protocol. he blocked our defence secretary, from secretary, ben wallace, from being nato secretary—general being the nato secretary—general in favour of a failed german defence minister. now european commission president ursula von der leyen. he would rather see, by the sounds of it, very much europe, an internationalist focus , not defence. focus, not defence. >> oh, i think that's very evident. i mean that last bit definitely. i mean , you know, definitely. i mean, you know, sending his wife jill to the coronation i think i sound like
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i'm trying to be fair to them. the fact is, is that british monarchs don't go to america no american presidents don't go to i >> -- >> do you think that's a red herring? >> bit of red herring. also, when charles and diana got married in 1981, reagan sent nancy. he didn't come . so, i nancy. he didn't come. so, i mean, i think basically you can read too much into this, having said that, the royal family has been really important in keeping any kind of relationship going with their soft power . i mean, with their soft power. i mean, he's meeting the king in windsor tomorrow. i live in windsor, so it'll be hellish down there , you it'll be hellish down there, you know. but you know, the delightful depending on your point of view, the queen will the queen got on very well with the queen got on very well with the obamas for example. but that didn't stop obama taking out the bust winston churchill from bust of winston churchill from the white house. you know, i think there's always been a bit of relationship. of a fractured relationship. >> back to we >> we'll come back to this. we must on. are watching must move on. you are watching and to gb sunday and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. please do let know what you think about let me know what you think about joe his trip is very much
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joe biden, his trip is very much a trip compared to a well, a short trip compared to what trump when came here what trump had when he came here for three day extravaganza. for a three day extravaganza. has he snubbed us? does he hate britain bit? got britain a little bit? we've got lots more coming up on today's show. we commission a new show. should we commission a new royal very royal yacht? stephen is very keen about this one. keen to talk about this one. he's michael seems he's told me michael gove seems to think we do need one. but would a new national flagship be to think we do need one. but wboost new national flagship be to think we do need one. but wboost to aw national flagship be to think we do need one. but wboost to nationalial flagship be to think we do need one. but wboost to national morale .hip be to think we do need one. but wboost to national morale or) be a boost to national morale or yet another strain on the public purse we simply cannot purse that we simply cannot afford? get the afford? but first, let's get the news . news with rory. >> thank you very much, emily. the culture secretary says she's been assured by the bbc that allegations against a presenter are being investigated swiftly and sensitively. lucy fraser , and sensitively. lucy fraser, who spoke to director general tim davie, says the corporation must now be given the space to establish the facts and take appropriate action. a man's been accused of paying a teenager tens of thousands of pounds for explicit images with the young person's mother telling the sun
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she saw a photo of him in his underwear on her child's phone . underwear on her child's phone. more than a thousand people have crossed the channel on small boats over the past two days. the home office says over 600 people were intercepted on friday and almost 400 made the journey yesterday . well, despite journey yesterday. well, despite storm warnings, conditions are calm and gb news understands that more than 200 people have already been intercepted . just already been intercepted. just this morning, it brings this year's total to 12,700. the home office says the number of people risking their lives is unacceptable . britain is unacceptable. britain is preparing to host the us president, who's due to arrive this evening. joe biden will meet the king at windsor castle tomorrow. he'll then hold talks with prime minister rishi sunak , where he is expected to raise concerns over brexit. america's decision to send cluster munitions to ukraine could also be discussed . and joe biden's be discussed. and joe biden's visit comes ahead of the nato
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summit in lithuania, where the prime minister will urge allies to bolster their defence spending. speaking in vilnius on tuesday, rishi sunak is expected to say that we're seeing unprecedented security challenges. the uk remains one of the few nato members meeting the alliance's requirement to spend at least 2% of national income on defence. that's the up to date . but you can get more on to date. but you can get more on all of these stories by visiting our website. that is gb news .com .
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radio. sunday with me, emily carver on your tv , online and radio . your tv, online and radio. >> so a few of you well, a lot of you a lot of you actually are have been getting in touch about the bbc just in general, of course, we've had allegations against male presenter the
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against a male presenter at the bbc we know who the bbc. we don't know who the presenter is, but are presenter is, but people are getting in touch . you're getting getting in touch. you're getting in touch. just about the bbc in general. written in touch. just about the bbc in gersays, written in touch. just about the bbc in gersays, yes, written in touch. just about the bbc in gersays, yes, it's written in touch. just about the bbc in gersays, yes, it's timetten in touch. just about the bbc in gersays, yes, it's time ton he says, yes, it's time to aboush he says, yes, it's time to abolish the bbc. all that is on are repeats. anyway well, there's that. and ronald has got in touch, he says. the bbc went off track when they added persuade to educate, entertain and inform to mission and inform to their mission statement. solution in statement. the solution in separate bbc news from the entertainment sport and entertainment and sport arms and make the news arm subscription make the news arm a subscription service. i think an increasing number of people would agree with you . and of course we saw with you. and of course we saw i think it was richard sharpe who said that perhaps the rich should more for the bbc should pay more for the bbc licence fee. his proposal licence fee. that's his proposal for how to make it sustainable. i'm not sure if that would work, but anyway , we're going to move but anyway, we're going to move on something. well quite on to something. well quite exciting. i think the levelling up michael has up secretary, michael gove has become public figure become the latest public figure to new royal yacht once to back a new royal yacht once the allows, though the the budget allows, though the plans were championed enthusiastically by former prime minister boris johnson to act as a floating embassy and secure
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trade deals for brexit. britain and the former royal yacht was decommissioned tony blair in decommissioned by tony blair in 1997. bu and is now one of the uk's top tourist attraction. so ihave uk's top tourist attraction. so i have got my panel with me. oh no, i'm talking to grant harold, who is a former royal butler who i believe has been on a royal yacht. grant, thank you very much indeed. can you explain to our listeners why our viewers and listeners why a royal yacht is so important ? do royal yacht is so important? do you know? >> thank you for having me on, emily. >> do you know the thing about royal yachts? >> they are important. there has actually been 83 and the first one was back to the time of charles. the second when the dutch gifted a royal yacht. and since then, it's become a tradition been over 25 tradition and it's been over 25 years since we last had a royal since obviously since britannia obviously was decommissioned. and as you've mentioned, at mentioned, you can visit her at leith. i've there a few leith. i've been there a few times. even when i worked for the king, i went and visited britannia. >> so there's a real history with it. >> but more importantly, the yacht a lot for business. >> i mean, it did a million nautical miles, almost nautical nautical miles, almost 700 visits.
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>> official visits being used for state occasions, and also for state occasions, and also for trade and commerce by the government , as well as the royal government, as well as the royal families. so i think people kind of think, oh, a royal is a luxury and something that the royals go around and having lovely on. the lovely holidays on. but the reality it's a it's a working yacht. >> so grant, do you think we shouldn't be penny pinching when it a royal yacht that it comes to a royal yacht that actually it might make back the money we spend on it? money that we spend on it? >> think it really well, >> i think it really well, i think it would do a lot to help the country with with our trade , with commerce, with with , with our commerce, with with connection countries. connection with other countries. you allows our royal you know, it allows our royal family the government to family and the government to travel to parts of the travel to other parts of the world be able to use it for world and be able to use it for entertaining and building business got of business mean it's got a lot of there's a lot of uses for it. and so people say we're and so when people say we're kind penny pinching or, you kind of penny pinching or, you know, overspending when we don't need there's things need to, there's a lot of things i think agree that i think we would agree that money on that is money spent on that is maddening, where this is something would would something that would that would put into great put the great back into great britain, believe. britain, i believe. >> just lastly, grant, i think there some miserable people
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there are some miserable people in country who don't like in this country who don't like to see money go towards projects that even, that are seen as being even, i don't know, a little bit too patrick btec do you think that's got something to with it? got something to do with it? people don't putting money people don't like putting money towards such projects , do you ? towards such projects, do you? oh oh, he's gone. grant is finished. he's had enough, but luckily enough , i have my luckily enough, i have my wonderful panel with me to follow up on that conversation with grant. i don't know what grant was going to say there, but i think he was making the point that it's worth the cost. >> well, it all depends really what going be for. what it's going to be for. i mean, we talk about the royal yacht mentioned yacht britannia. we've mentioned they're 1997. they're decommissioned in 1997. the only time apparently that the and i think it's probably true that the queen really looked know, on looked upset, you know, on a pubuc looked upset, you know, on a public occasion was when she lost that was actually lost the but that was actually a floating home the royal floating for home the royal family. lot of good. family. it did a lot of good. this i can gather, will be, this what i can gather, will be, as you say, much more of a general usage. however you know, the optics don't look great. this is the levelling up secretary talking about a royal
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yacht. right. and i'm not being cheap here. but, you know , cheap here. but, you know, people will think, oh, wait a minute, why should there be a new royal yacht for the royal family and this is how it will be portrayed at the very time where apparently we're having a slimmed monarchy at the slimmed down monarchy at the same time. so i think it seems to be very beside the point and slightly old fashioned as well. theidea slightly old fashioned as well. the idea that's interesting you say that, peter, because you are patriotic . patriotic. >> you love your british history . yes. yes. i would say that you do like a bit of pomp and ceremony as well. but you think actually the royal yacht may be actually the royal yacht may be a step too far at this moment? >> not i think it's for the british public. >> i think yes. >> i think yes. >> i think it's just sort of it's kind of irrelevant. i mean, look, we're talking we're in the 21st century here. the idea that britain, again, has a kind of imperial yacht going around the world, basically , you know, world, basically, you know, trying to get trade deals together or at least give them a stamp of approval or whatever . stamp of approval or whatever. seems to a rather old
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seems to be a rather old fashioned way of doing. having said maybe we said that, you know, maybe we just have got rid of just shouldn't have got rid of the original yachts. well, there's always that, isn't there? mean, why why there? you know? i mean, why why do we do it? that was pure spite, think. spite, i think. >> possibly. you think that >> possibly. do you think that was spite, getting of. was pure spite, getting rid of. >> think so. >> i don't think so. i understand why he did it. and why did he do it? because it was just we'd won and he was just after we'd won and he was basically trying save money basically trying to save money wherever 1997. but wherever he could in 1997. but look, point is that britain look, the point is that britain is she's beautiful. she was laid down john. down in john. >> not making some kind >> was he not making some kind of no point? >> he didn't need to. he'd just got majority. you know, he got 189 majority. you know, he didn't no need to make. didn't he had no need to make. but the things we but look, one of the things we used be quite proud of that used to be quite proud of that she was actually laid down in clydebank john when clydebank in john brown's when the shipbuilding industry the clyde shipbuilding industry was the world. but was the best in the world. but the at the the silly thing is at the moment, eight british ships, wherever come wherever they actually come into port, normally not in port, they will normally not in every but not very often. every case, but not very often. you'll rig a deck awning aft and you'll invite local you'll actually invite local people get a boat, people on. you get a boat, a royal marine band tooting away. and a of that now, if and we do a lot of that now, if you a type frigate
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you have a type 23 frigate coming into saint john's antigua, a british frigate is a is industrial warfare piece is an industrial warfare piece of equipment, it actually detracts value of it. detracts from the value of it. i think the importance is if we want fact and let's want to find the fact and let's not forget, barbados has left the commonwealth, other countries are leaving the commonwealth, why don't we actually send new, actually send this new, glorious, glittering, beautiful no that no bill marvellous ship that we're to build hopefully we're going to build hopefully on clydebank actually on clydebank to actually knit together that great tangled skein of the commonwealth and bnng skein of the commonwealth and bring us all together. >> you a lot of young >> you know, a lot of young people listening to you would just think, he's mad, you're just think, oh, he's mad, you're stuck in the this is stuck in the past, this is nonsense. can't just have nonsense. can't you just have a zoom to have your trade deal? >> i think that exactly. >> i think that exactly. >> you know, but i do >> you know, steve, but i do like do like your sense of like i do like your sense of purpose and enthusiasm about this, this royal yacht. and apparently at home are apparently people at home are have enthusiasm. have have equal enthusiasm. well, at least they have lots to say. alan has written in. he says, yes, we should have a royal built apprentices royal yacht built by apprentices guided mastercraftsmen. guided by master craftsmen. lovely >> yes. i would love all of that shipping to return. i mean , as shipping to return. i mean, as a major industry dodi, you know, i
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mean, that's what i would like. i think the idea of it's just particularly just seems very strange coming from the levelling shaun bailey the awful considering, considering the issues we've got in the channel >> of course, it might not be that long before there were calls for it to be used, but other purposes. >> you are so provocative, honestly. oh, come on. >> fair enough. we're using barges to. to house, to house. migrant yes. so, you know, the royal yacht could be used so the rnli would out of job. rnli would be out of a job. let's see james has to say, let's see what james has to say, because taken the to because he's taken the time to write to he says, forget the write to us. he says, forget the royal yacht. they just royal yacht. they will just build most luxurious yacht. build the most luxurious yacht. oh, god, i'm so predict able, aren't you go, james. aren't i? there you go, james. that's what he's had to say. and grover oh, can't we grover says, oh, why can't we repurpose confiscated rich repurpose a confiscated rich russian yacht our russian mafia yacht for our king? not a new idea as we've doneitin king? not a new idea as we've done it in past when we done it in the past when we formed our navy by nicking french spanish ships . well, french and spanish ships. well, there's yes. what's there's an idea. yes. what's happened to all of those russian yachts been you know, yachts that have been you know, they all the they were all in the mediterranean they got mediterranean and then they got well snatched, didn't they?
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well, a couple were well, a couple of them were taken away, confiscated proceeds of imean, taken away, confiscated proceeds of i mean, a couple of them have >> i mean, a couple of them have actually been sold. >> don't want proceeds of >> we don't want a proceeds of crime royal yacht. thank >> we don't want a proceeds of crinvery royal yacht. thank >> we don't want a proceeds of crinvery much.(al yacht. thank >> we don't want a proceeds of crinvery much. but acht. thank >> we don't want a proceeds of crinvery much. but pleasehank >> we don't want a proceeds of crinvery much. but please do k you very much. but please do keep views coming in and keep your views coming in and subscribe to our youtube channel. of channel. we've got tonnes of videos there. i think we've got hundreds of hundreds and hundreds of thousands and thousands of subscribers. and also on twitter. we're also follow us on twitter. we're at gb so moving on is at gb news. so moving on is there any difference between there now any difference between there now any difference between the parties on the the two major parties on the economy? labour's front frontbench seem to think frontbench doesn't seem to think so. rachel reeves has reportedly told colleagues that a labour government wouldn't raise personal taxes while the cost of living persisted. keir starmer has said he does not want to increase income tax for top earners. he'll avoid imposing further taxes. of course, the tax burden is currently at its highest in the post war era. it's predicted to reach 38% of gdp by 2027 to 28. and the crucial point is this that they've also said that they will not be increasing public spending beyond what the conservatives already have planned , which is quite an
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planned, which is quite an admission , isn't it, stephen? admission, isn't it, stephen? this is because people are voting labour . there are many voting labour. there are many pubuc voting labour. there are many public sector workers out there , for example, are hoping , for example, who are hoping that come a labour government they will get these big bumper pay they will get these big bumper pay packets, aren't they? well this is basically the gordon brown, tony blair playbook from 1997 when we were terrified. >> the one thing that terrifies those of us in the labour party is the accusation that the labour party spends money and the conservative party creates money therefore had money and therefore we had to show we were fiscally show that we were fiscally responsible. and this is responsible. and i think this is a example. the british a good example. the british economy the is economy at the moment is tanking. a terrible tanking. it is in a terrible state and the next general election housing is going to be the huge because housing the huge issue because housing mortgages, the the huge issue because housing morissue s, the the huge issue because housing morissue . the the huge issue because housing morissue . what the the huge issue because housing morissue . what we the the huge issue because housing morissue . what we have the the huge issue because housing morissue . what we have to :he the huge issue because housing morissue . what we have to do is big issue. what we have to do is to ensure that we actually have international conference confidence reason truss confidence. the reason why truss and kwarteng lost out was because of standards and poor's and agencies that and the rating agencies that said, sorry, you know, said, look, i'm sorry, you know, the british economy is the the british economy is in the realm bonds. we've got realm of junk bonds. we've got to that we stability to show that we have stability and responsibility as an incoming we can
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incoming government. then we can grow economy. at the grow the economy. but at the moment, everybody had pay moment, if everybody had pay rises, then that would just stoke know that. >> hang on. i think people want to know what their longer term vision is to grow economy. vision is to grow the economy. >> if they're saying, >> and if they're saying, actually, not going actually, we're not going to spend more the moment spend any more at the moment because we to be careful because we have to be careful and we're not raise our and we're not going to raise our taxes bar a little taxes too high bar a few little tweaks here there. tweaks here and there. >> well, hang on. you left >> well, hang on. you are a left wing party. what actually are you going to do? and we don't know. they going to keep to know. are they going to keep to these sort of fiscal rules for a couple of years and then suddenly slap taxes, suddenly slap massive taxes, suddenly slap massive taxes, suddenly gates huge suddenly open the gates to huge amounts spending and amounts of public spending and cripple again? cripple us again? >> that's what we did in 97. >> that's not what we did in 97. no but it was huge amounts of spending. no but it was huge amounts of spethe g. no but it was huge amounts of spethe welfare state grew. >> the welfare state grew. >> the welfare state grew. >> saying, though, that >> you were saying, though, that if rises that if you have huge pay rises that leads inflation. i mean, leads to inflation. i mean, that's pure mrs. thatcher saying that. i mean, this is the interesting isn't wrong interesting thing isn't wrong all . no, no, most of all the time. no, no, most of the time. okay >> i think incorrect, >> i think it's incorrect, though. i think it's a reaction to inflation we're getting to inflation that we're getting higher a consequence is that >> it's a consequence is that the issue? mean, inflation
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the key issue? i mean, inflation is much money chasing is too much money chasing too few goods. you know that fundamentally, i think the fundamentally, i think the fundamental know these fundamental as we know these things, point things, the fundamental point here is, that here really, emily, is, is that there almost difference there is almost no difference between on anything i >> -- >> if -- >>if| -- >> if i had to sort of say if you take not just economics, but on these real crucial cultural issues , there's nothing issues, there's nothing immigration, there's nothing between them. if anything, actually , i would say at least actually, i would say at least labouris actually, i would say at least labour is honest, for example, about what it would do on on that, you know , on that topic, that, you know, on that topic, the tories will say one thing, but then simply deceive the pubuc but then simply deceive the public and simply do the other. so i think almost it is called increasingly a uni party and i think that there is a very, very good reason for that. there is nothing to choose between these two. >> now, i'm very outspoken about where the conservatives go wrong, but i do think there is a difference between labour and conservative and i do think it's in those cultural things. i think labour get into think that if labour get into power , will even more power, there will be even more of what i think is toxic
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identity politics. we already know that the labour party is planning a new race equality act . exactly that mean? . what exactly does that mean? does that mean does recrimination against white people in job applications? because we've seen that already. what does it actually mean? does it mean quotas when it comes to hiring? >> it's happening in haringey today. >> it's happening. >> it's happening. >> well, we're going to be talking later. talking about this later. >> huge expanse of you just >> this huge expanse of you just mentioned identity politics, the huge of cultural huge expanse of these cultural issues. one of the reasons i almost would say why gb news started has all happened under a conservative government. it's been there for 13 years. i mean, l, been there for 13 years. i mean, i, i admire your kind of loyalty in a way, emily, to them. but there is nothing to choose. and i think the important thing for the next election is going to be this, is that in the past, tories, you know, they could always , look, whatever always say, well, look, whatever you do, don't vote them, you you do, don't vote for them, you know, vote for us because know, or vote for us because labour will get i think that labour will get in. i think that is going wash anymore. is not going to wash anymore. i really that that is not really think that that is not going threat that works going to be a threat that works well . well. >> we're going to move on. let
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me know at home what you think. is there a difference between the party and the the labour party and the conservative party? we know that rachel away her £28 rachel reeves threw away her £28 billion a year that she was going spending green going to be spending on green policies that's gone in the bin because can't afford it. because they can't afford it. so let me do you see let me know. do you see a difference on the cultural side, on mix? i mean, it on the economic mix? i mean, it probably is. thin, really probably is. wafer thin, really thin anyway , now this is a funny thin anyway, now this is a funny one. potentially depending on what you see or outrageous . what you see or outrageous. george had a week what you see or outrageous. georghell had a week what you see or outrageous. georghell as had a week what you see or outrageous. georghell as his had a week what you see or outrageous. georghell as his and had a week what you see or outrageous. georghell as his and his a week what you see or outrageous. georghell as his and his neweek from hell as his and his new wife's day was disrupted by wife's big day was disrupted by just stop oil activists showering newlyweds in showering the newlyweds in orange confetti . yes, the former orange confetti. yes, the former chancellor was the latest victim of the climate group as a female protester fled, smiling after being approached by security and just stop oil retweeted a video of the incident congratulating the couple. so i'm going to go straight to my panel on this one. peter. yeah well, i think it's appalling, revolting behaviour actually. >> and people say, oh , it's not >> and people say, oh, it's not going to do their cause any
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good. well, i don't have much time for their cause anyway, but i think that the way in which the self righteousness of these people, the, the, the way in which they feel that they are untouchable and until quite recently they were quite literally untouchable. the police were not touching them . police were not touching them. you know, they were allowed to disrupt and disrupt. and it's all done under this kind of banner of the situation is so bad that we have a right almost to do this. but on 1 in 1 tweet, i remember seeing from them, they said , what do you expect us they said, what do you expect us to do? wait until the next election? and which you say , election? and which you say, well, yes, actually join the club. we're in a democracy . but club. we're in a democracy. but i think to do something at someone's wedding shows a lack of self awareness to and be gleeful about it. i think is kind of sociopathic behaviour . kind of sociopathic behaviour. >> actually, i have to say, showering somebody with orange confetti. i mean, it happens every other wedding in belfast. i don't i don't know i mean, i don't i don't know what for reasons, i don't what for these reasons, i don't know thea rogers must have
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know what thea rogers must have thought about it. but look, it's usually invited, though, isn't thought about it. but look, it's usllt's' invited, though, isn't thought about it. but look, it's usllt's usually, though, isn't thought about it. but look, it's usllt's usually demandedn't thought about it. but look, it's usllt's usually demanded.n"you it? it's usually demanded if you don't look , this is don't mind. but look, this is appalling. i honestly think that they have absolutely jumped the shark on this one. they've actually lost the case. they've lost the plot. they've lost the argument, and they've lost the sympathy the sympathy and support of the country banging country where they keep banging on what the suffragettes on about what the suffragettes did 1915. know, i don't did in 1915. you know, i don't see many of them throwing themselves king's horses. also, what's amusing is >> also, what's quite amusing is that actually managed to that they've actually managed to alienate a of sympathy for alienate a level of sympathy for george osborne. yes. >> thought i'd see that. >> i never thought i'd see that. >> i never thought i'd see that. >> i never thought i'd see that. >> i sort of sympathetic to >> yes, i sort of sympathetic to him. there's it seems to him. there's nothing it seems to me that there are other things. i believe afoot, you know, that they're actually they're going to i is to disrupt what i think is emerging, which i think is quite important, the class important, is the real class element are element to this. these are mostly middle class people, upper class people , upper middle class people, retired, headteachers. exactly and the utopians and therefore, there was a picture during the week of a guy at wimbledon, one of them at wimbledon sitting, you know, on on the lawn at wimbledon. the sense of entitlement was heightened ,
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entitlement was heightened, legible, entitlement legible, shocking entitlement and smugness. and the people who are being disrupted on the whole are being disrupted on the whole are people trying to get to work and all the rest of it. what has been terrible about this, i think, stephen, is the way in which the police have basically they pick and choose which causes they kind of police now and, you know, for too long they were on the streets saying, are you okay? would you like some water to these people? and yet, you know, if, for example, you were anti—lockdown, you really got full force of the law on got the full force of the law on you? what is terrifying is my sister very close to sister lives very close to silverstone i spoke to silverstone and i spoke to earlier this the police earlier this morning the police actually stopping people. >> her >> she was pushing her grandchild in pram. the grandchild in the pram. and the police people all police are stopping people all around have around silverstone. all i have to i don't know about to say is i don't know about these just oil protesters. if they're to try to get in they're going to try to get in front of formula one racing front of a formula one racing car. fair play. like car. i mean, fair play. i'd like to see film of that, but to see the film of that, but we're going talk about this a we're going to talk about this a little bit later because lewis hamilton support of hamilton came out in support of just even though his just stop oil, even though his whole absolutely covered whole garb is absolutely covered in petrol.
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whole garb is absolutely covered in [it's)l. whole garb is absolutely covered in [it's quite difficult to run >> it's quite difficult to run his jamjar without we've his jamjar without it. we've come point society come to the point in society where can, as long as you where you can, as long as you say the right thing. peter that's all that matters. >> pure cognitive dissonance, isn't mean sort of . i isn't it? i mean sort of. i think he's not very bright think maybe he's not very bright . i don't but it wouldn't . i don't know. but it wouldn't occur to you to say, i better not say that because i've got all these sponsors, all my body. >> it doesn't matter in this world we live in, it's all about what you say we're going to be discussing right at the top discussing that right at the top of the hour. so stay tuned. of the next hour. so stay tuned. that's a very, very, very perceptive comment. that's a very, very, very perceptive cideserves an hour's >> actually deserves an hour's debate own. debate on its own. >> i think it does, indeed. yes we are very clever this panel we are very clever on this panel on of you are. this on sunday, two of you are. this is gb sunday with me, emily is gb news sunday with me, emily kavashe. still come kavashe. stephen still to come in the next hour, why are schools excluding white pupils from weekend yes, from extra weekend classes? yes, you right. have you heard that right. i'll have the first, let's the details. but first, let's take at the weather with greg. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. >> the temperature's rising. >> i can i can hear all the feedback in my ear. >> proud sponsors of weather on gb news . oh hello there.
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gb news. oh hello there. >> i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. well, further showers and longer spells of rain over the next few days. there will be some sunshine though, but for many of us it will feel fresher. and the reason for this is this area of low pressure. it's been around over the last few days. just the west of us. but just sat to the west of us. but over the few days, it over the coming few days, it actually spreads towards us and increase faces the risk of showers and longer spells of rain, even more this evening. we do have thundery showers across the uk , but they will start to the uk, but they will start to fade away and then most places overnight will see clear skies, though towards the early hours, we could see some showers moving back into southwestern parts of the uk. temperatures generally in the low to mid teens. the uk. temperatures generally in the low to mid teens . so in the low to mid teens. so a little fresher than recent nights, but still quite warm for the time of year. the monday morning gets off to a dry start for many, plenty of sunny spells, though the cloud quickly thickens from the south—west, this pushes north this area of rain pushes north eastwards the day, eastwards through the day, turning heavy at times, particularly wales into
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particularly across wales into the midlands, north—west england to elsewhere. we'll see a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers and the best of the sunshine towards the south—east. could see highs south—east. we could see highs around 24 or 25 celsius elsewhere. generally the high teens to low 20s that area of rain across north wales, northern england continues to push further north as we head through the evening and then further spells of rain push into southern parts of the uk as we move into the early hours. this could be heavy at times. so overnight a lot of cloud around outbreaks rain and that will outbreaks of rain and that will keep up generally keep temperatures up generally a little higher, 14 to 17 degrees across much of the country . so across much of the country. so it means a cloudy, wet start for many tuesday morning. heavy showers already, but it should brighten up as we move through the morning, into the afternoon . but that will trigger a few heavy showers, too, over the next few days. it remains unsettled as that low pressure stays in charge , further showers stays in charge, further showers and longer spells rain than and longer spells of rain than temperatures average . temperatures around average. >> the temperatures rising .
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>> the temperatures rising. boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news . news weather on gb news. news >> thank. thank you, greg. so we've got lots more coming up. there are fears just stop. oil will target the british grand prix today. so could protesters slip past security once again? they seem to have disrupted every major sport event. all of that. we've got more to come. i'm emily carver and you're watching and listening to gb news, news .
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online and radio. so coming up this hour, silverstone security is on high alert amid fears the grand prix is the next target for just stop oil so could protesters slip past security yet again? then elocution, elocution, elocution . keir elocution, elocution. keir starmer says the best way to shatter the glass ceiling is to give children speaking lessons . give children speaking lessons. but is this just barefaced classism or is it actually a goodidea? classism or is it actually a good idea? from the leader of the opposition? then a return of racial segregation . why on earth racial segregation. why on earth are schools excluding white pupils from extra weekend classes ? we'll get stuck into classes? we'll get stuck into that. please do get in touch throughout the show. send us your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet us at gb news. but first, let's get the news headlines with rory . the news headlines with rory. >> thank you very much, emily. the culture secretary says she's been assured by the bbc that allegations against a presenter are being investigated , moved are being investigated, moved swiftly and sensitively . lucy
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swiftly and sensitively. lucy frazer, who spoke to director general tim davie, says the corporation must now be given the space to establish the facts and take appropriate action. a man's been accused of paying a teenager tens of thousands of pounds for explicit images with a young person's mother telling the sun she saw a photo of him in his underwear on her child's phone while former conservative party leader sir iain duncan smith says the case has not been handled properly by the bbc. >> i don't quite know what they're doing. it's been a mess, clearly if you read the newspaper reports, you can see that the bbc has tried to play this the beginning and this down from the beginning and it's worked because it's it's not worked because it's exploded. don't any exploded. they don't have any plan, enquiries that they're plan, any enquiries that they're taking place seem to be a mess and that's led to a whole series of reputational damage across the newspapers to the bbc. the bbc should act like everybody else does immediately suspend somebody pending the investigation . and that way it's investigation. and that way it's clear and then it can get on with it. at this stage, try and
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do it quietly and behind the scenes. it never works because somebody has blown the gaff and they're in trouble over it more than a thousand people have crossed channel small crossed the channel on small boats over past two days. boats over the past two days. >> home office says over 600 >> the home office says over 600 people were injured on friday and almost 400 made the journey yesterday . well, despite storm yesterday. well, despite storm warnings, conditions are calm and gb news understands that more than 200 people have already been intercept sighted just this morning that brings this year's total to 12,700. the home office says the number of people risking their lives is unacceptable . britain is unacceptable. britain is preparing to host the us president, who is due to arrive this evening. joe biden will meet the king at windsor castle tomorrow. he'll then hold talks with the prime minister, rishi sunak , where he's expected to sunak, where he's expected to raise concerns over brexit. america's decision to send cluster munitions to ukraine could also be discussed. had a chance to. well, joe biden's visit comes ahead of the nato
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summit in lithuania , where the summit in lithuania, where the prime minister will urge allies to bolster defence spending . to bolster defence spending. speaking in vilnius and tuesday , rishi sunak is expected to say that we're seeing unprecedented security challenges. the uk remains one of the few nato members meeting the alliance's requirement to spend at least 2% of national income on defence, more than 700 firearms have been seized in the uk by the national crime agency. forces have been working with police in spain to stop guns which can be easily converted from entering the uk in 11 cases, firearms were sent to people with mental health issues and seven involved people with extremist views. the nca says 74 people have been arrested , resulting in 50 arrested, resulting in 50 convictions over the past five years. the chancellor is set to outline so—called evolutionary pension reforms to boost economic growth. jeremy hunt
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plans to make changes to pension funds, encouraging investors to support fast growing businesses . well, in a speech tomorrow, he's expected to say the changes will be gradual, not he's expected to say the changes will be gradual , not drastic. will be gradual, not drastic. the government says the aim is to help savers , pension schemes to help savers, pension schemes and the uk contain turns have been raised about the thousands of displaced ukrainians who are still in temporary accommodation in scotland. the liberal democrat arts say more than 3000 ukrainians are still in hotels and around 700 are on board. the victor gao cruise ship the party says the progress has been slow and it criticised the lack of resources, as the government says it's working on longer term housing and the met office is warning of more heavy showers and thunder storms. it comes after rain and storms disrupted major sporting events like wimbledon and the ashes yesterday . the met office is yesterday. the met office is predicting prolonged heavy rain in scotland, while northern ireland will face strong winds, hail and even potential flooding
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as well. heavy showers are also expected to hit wales, the midlands and southwest of england . sps gb news. we'll england. sps gb news. we'll bnng england. sps gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now though, back to . now though, back to. emily >> thank you, rory. so, yes, security is on high alert at silverstone today amid fears the british grand prix will be targeted by. guess who? just stop oil. police are using live facial recognition among a raft of measures in a bid to stop climate activists who sat down on the wellington straight dunng on the wellington straight during the opening lap of last year's race. but with just stop oil managing to disrupt the snooker championship ships, the ashes, wimbledon and even george osborne's wedding could they slip past security again? well, joining me now is gb news national reporter theo chikomba, who is there at the circuit. theo so what preparations have been made in order to avoid?
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well another just stop oil stampeding onto the track, i guess. >> yeah , that's right. well, >> yeah, that's right. well, some of those things you have just mentioned, that's something northamptonshire police say they are looking out forjust a few are looking out for just a few moments ago, speaking to some officers dirt bikes. officers who are on dirt bikes. they've going around this they've been going around this area since the early hours of this morning, and they'll be doing that for the rest of the day. and northamptonshire police say around say officers will be around eight circulating the eight miles circulating the racetrack and the edge of it so that people who aren't going through the main entrance won't be able to get in and cause disrupt ation. as you mentioned, we've seen some disruption this week already wimbledon and at week already at wimbledon and at george osborne's wedding, the former chancellor. but this this afternoon, we understand from just oil, just stop oil in a statement, they have distanced themselves from that, saying it's unusual to see people throw confetti. but they are distancing themselves from that. today, though, 140,000 fans have
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made their way into silverstone to see the british grand prix, which is taking off and just less than an hour or so many fans who have travelled from across the country and the world as well. but they'll be looking forward to this afternoon and hoping there's no disruption . hoping there's no disruption. action. for the first time today, though, face id will be used to look out for people. tight security . any extra checks tight security. any extra checks before people get in so they are really clamping down on this and hopefully many fans will be hoping that there's no disruption this afternoon when the race begins. just after 3:00. >> thank you very much indeed, theo chikomba. there at silverstone outside the circuit, bringing us the latest on, well, potentially just stop. oil might decide to disrupt the race, which i imagine they would love to do, seeing as they've disrupted many, many other types of races , haven't they? and also of races, haven't they? and also the f1 before. now with me, my panel
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the f1 before. now with me, my panel, peter whittle and stephen pound to discuss this . who pound to discuss this. who should i start with ? peter? yes, should i start with? peter? yes, joe, stop oil. >> just stop oil . btec, please, >> just stop oil. btec, please, just stop. i mean, frankly, they are the most , just stop. i mean, frankly, they are the most, you just stop. i mean, frankly, they are the most , you know, just stop. i mean, frankly, they are the most, you know, high moral , are the most, you know, high moral, righteous are the most, you know, high moral , righteous people . they've moral, righteous people. they've got away with it. an enormous amount. we saw what happened at george osborne's wedding, which is a small thing i know in it's in and of itself. but it shows the kind of way in which they look at these things. but the number people, ordinary number of people, ordinary working are simply working people who are simply stopped about stopped it from going about their business, going to work or whatever by these over privileged middle class, upper middle class people who think somehow they've got the god given right actually to disrupt our lives . as you know, it will our lives. as you know, it will go on unless the police really crack down. >> but peter, least this is >> but peter, at least this is consistent with their message disrupting the formula one because, course, gas guzzling because, of course, gas guzzling cars , whereas i don't know why
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cars, whereas i don't know why they went and spoilt the glyndebourne opera. >> well, i mean, that speaks volumes , actually. the fact is volumes, actually. the fact is these people would know about glyndebourne, the opera, which i go to. >> they just happened to be there. i think. >> yes, well, exactly. and you know, the fact is, is they're not being consistent in any other way, just so happens to be racing. i mean, they racing. you know, i mean, they just everyone's just want to spoil everyone's fun. just want to spoil everyone's fun they they're so high >> they think they're so high and . they have moral and mighty. they have moral superiority, complex, don't they? also, i for some they? and also, i think for some of i don't mean to be of the more i don't mean to be ageist, maybe for some of ageist, but maybe for some of the middle aged who the middle aged people who indulge kind of these indulge in this kind of these kind acts, these kind of kind of acts, these kind of protest. this like rebelle protest. is this like a rebelle later on in life, you know, perhaps they didn't rebel as youths . so now it's like, you youths. so now it's like, you know , let's have a bit of fun. know, let's have a bit of fun. >> people who can afford to live on the top of the hill often >> people who can afford to live on thithey of the hill often >> people who can afford to live on thithey occupy hill often >> people who can afford to live on thithey occupy the often >> people who can afford to live on thithey occupy the high moral think they occupy the high moral ground. i think in this particular what amazes particular case, what amazes me about the name of about this is why in the name of all that's holy, would anybody want something want to go and watch something which essentially scale which is essentially scale electrics and people electrics on steroids and people whizzing and round?
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whizzing round and round? what is in formula one is there to watch in formula one racing? people don't understand. stephen i'm sorry. i mean, call me but you know, stephen i'm sorry. i mean, call me you but you know, stephen i'm sorry. i mean, call me you know but you know, stephen i'm sorry. i mean, call me you know , but you know, stephen i'm sorry. i mean, call me you know , when you know, stephen i'm sorry. i mean, call me you know , when itu know, stephen i'm sorry. i mean, call me you know , when it was ow, stephen i'm sorry. i mean, call me you know , when it was at. when you know, when it was at brooklyn's or something like that, you, know, surtees and that, you, you know, surtees and you know stirling and you know stirling moss and people with those helmets on their racing round it their goggles racing round it was man and machine. >> well stephen that's not the point really. whether point is it really. whether people enjoy the f1 or not. we all, we all, we all agree that these particular people , there these particular people, there are bunch of self—indulgent are a bunch of self—indulgent people watching them. >> is this sooner or later? i mean, it's the point has been made. i know before, but sooner or later someone is going to die as a result of this. well, yes. >> it's not going to be an emily wilding david amess. >> saw dangerous under >> we saw how dangerous under lewis. it was. was it lewis. dangerous. it was. was it aintree cheltenham or one of aintree or cheltenham or one of the national? the grand national? >> the grand national two, >> the grand grand national two, where essentially >> the grand grand national two, where have essentially >> the grand grand national two, where have put essentially >> the grand grand national two, where have put people's ally >> the grand grand national two, where have put people's lives at could have put people's lives at risk, the jockeys. >> but also the horses who they say wish protect. say they wish to protect. although that might have although i think that might have been rebellion. it's hard been animal rebellion. it's hard to of all the spin to keep track of all the spin offs environmental offs of these environmental activist peter,
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activist group. but peter, i'm interested to get view on interested to get your view on lewis hamilton himself. he is, of racing today, but of course, racing today, but he's come out almost in support of just stop oil at least in terms of their goals . and terms of their goals. and there's a little bit of an irony there. oh irony. >> yes, it's schizophr. genic, actually, is what it is. but the thing is, i thing, as you pointed out earlier, actually, the point is you can actually it doesn't matter what your actions are anymore, your your are anymore, your or your behaviour, so long as you say are anymore, your or your behrightr, so long as you say are anymore, your or your beh right thingong as you say are anymore, your or your beh right thing .ng as you say are anymore, your or your beh right thing . and; you say are anymore, your or your beh right thing . and iyou say are anymore, your or your beh right thing . and i would! the right thing. and i would have thought he's thinking i've got to keep my sponsors kind of happy. probably yeah , sure, ha goppy- they probably yea h , sure happy. they probably yeah, sure, go ahead and do it. because some of your will obviously go of your fans will obviously go along this message. i along with this message. but i mean, frankly, it's beyond parody. it's actually beyond parody. it's actually beyond parody that he says he's covered in all these. >> it is. there he is on this screen. for those listening at home, he is well, he's adorned with petrol and gas related sponsors over his kit, over his uniform for the races. he clearly can't put two and two together. of course, lewis
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hamilton is also been in the press in recent years over his well, he likes to use the benefits of tax havens indeed, to put it. >> but what's terrible is virtue signalling is now replaced virtue. and you know, we didn't the virtue signalling didn't exist ago. and exist a few years ago. and there's now people say it doesn't what i am or what doesn't matter what i am or what i actions are. as i do or what my actions are. as long as i the right thing, long as i say the right thing, i'm you know thank heavens i'm as you know thank heavens for gb news. well it's exactly the people who despise and the what people who despise and loathe don't like with meghan markle and prince harry, isn't it ? it? >> it's the assumption that as long as i say that i love the environment, i want to protect the environment. as long as i say an anti racist, that's say i'm an anti racist, that's all that matters. it's not actually your actions. can actually your actions. you can still around world in still fly around the world in a private jet and you know, make vacuous podcasts about yourself. but as long as you say you're a good person, you are a good person. >> yes, but but it's what represents a good person. now, that's the point. is that the idea that a celebrity, whether it's sporting film or meghan markle, the idea that they would
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deviate or say something different than something about the environment, which we're seeing or about gender or about racial issues, right ? those are racial issues, right? those are the three that essentially , you the three that essentially, you know, those are the benchmarks . know, those are the benchmarks. you are a good person. if you say the right thing about these three things, you know, when was the last time you heard any actor or any sort of pop singer or sports person say anything outside of those very narrow laurence fox well, the thing is, apart from and look what he he paid for it. laurence then paid for it, of course. >> but the, you know, you've got people who are outliers like j.k. rowling , who arguably is j.k. rowling, who arguably is too big to count, cancel. she's obviously come out when it comes to gender critical views believing that you can't just say you're a man or say you're a woman. well, you're not a woman because you say you are essentially and also you've got sharron davies , of course, who sharron davies, of course, who has said this. but it's very much a minority. has said this. but it's very much a minority . and if you want much a minority. and if you want
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your sponsor collaborations with your sponsor collaborations with your nike's and your i don't know, makeup brands or whatever, you're going to find it very difficult if you have a controversial view. and that is why gb news exists , to have why gb news exists, to have these discussions with people from the argument . from all sides of the argument. stephen and that is that is why i love working here. >> is that right? yeah, >> stephen is that right? yeah, but i read in the paper but i mean, i read in the paper this, this week that one of your advertisers all sniffy advertisers has got all sniffy and dont and huffy and said they don't want because want to advertise because they've got this backlash against it, obviously is against it, which obviously is immediately engendered a backlash my to actually backlash on my part to actually stop particular stop buying from that particular premise immediately. i think people think what really people i think what really worries virtue worries me about virtue signalling is an excuse. it's a substitute analysis and substitute for analysis and thought. you simply thought. because if you simply say, am this, am that, say, i am this, i am that, you're thinking it through. you're not thinking it through. you're actually you're never actually confronting and confronting the real issues and you're up with you're going to end up with a whole bunch of robots sitting there same vacuous there parroting the same vacuous nonsense where's debate? nonsense. where's the debate? where's where's where's the discussion? where's the well, where is rac ? we're >> well, where is the rac? we're going talking about keir going to be talking about keir starmer and his oracy lessons later the show. but let's later on in the show. but let's see people, what you at see what people, what you at home about these. home are saying about these.
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just stunts just stop oil stunts or potential for more. just stop oil stunts , lex says. of oil stunts, lex says. all of these stunts , all these stunts these stunts, all these stunts are doing is turning opinion against is a saying against them. there is a saying you more flies with honey you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. that is a very saying indeed. i hope very nice saying indeed. i hope it's true all our benefits. it's true for all our benefits. but think there's also the but i think there's also the view at home and i've seen this in the inbox coming in, people saying, are you talking saying, why are you talking about them? why are you bringing attention them theyjust, attention to them if they just, you know, we just never you know, if we just never reported stuff, they'd reported on this stuff, they'd they'd cease it. but they'd cease to do it. but unfortunately , we don't know if unfortunately, we don't know if thatis unfortunately, we don't know if that is true because will that is true because we will always the but but always report the news. but but , there is , hey, there probably is a little of truth to that. it little bit of truth to that. it wouldn't fun for them if wouldn't be so fun for them if they got no media attention. perhaps sarah, on just apple ruining wedding ruining george osborne's wedding says. ruining george osborne's wedding says . was this confetti says. was this confetti biodegradable ? well, what is it biodegradable? well, what is it now ? considered littering under now? considered littering under the law? well, sarah, it may well be, but it may well be. i wonder if she has. she must have committed a crime. actually by interrupting a wedding like that. or perhaps she has. we
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don't know. we shall see. but it's just nasty behaviour , it's just nasty behaviour, really. although some people have said it's not that big a deal have said it's not that big a deal, you just throw a bit of confetti on someone, everyone throws confetti at wedding. but if you are an intruder, then it's not so nice, is it? and karen says, i think it's disgusting what happened at that wedding. just oil now wedding. just stop. oil have now crossed now be crossed the line. i will now be going my way to use more going out of my way to use more oil and gas and i'm sure lots of other people will feel the same. well, you might want to be careful your energy bills, careful with your energy bills, but sentiment. but i understand your sentiment. it's tell you it's like when people tell you that shouldn't eat and that you shouldn't eat meat and you shouldn't eat dairy products. it makes want to products. it makes you want to go and i don't know, stuff go out. and i don't know, stuff your full of steak your trolley full of steak sauce. anyway, please do sauce. but anyway, please do keep views coming in. keep your views coming in. you're and listening to you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. lots more carver. we've got lots more coming on today's show. but coming up on today's show. but first, a quick look first, let's take a quick look at weather with greg. at the weather with greg. >> brighter with boxed >> a brighter outlook with boxed suella sponsors of weather suella proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.
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on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast where further showers and longer spells of rain over the next few days. there will be some sunshine though, but for many of us will feel fresher. and the us it will feel fresher. and the reason for this is this area of low pressure. been around low pressure. it's been around over days. just sat over the last few days. just sat to west of us. but over the to the west of us. but over the coming few days, it actually spreads towards us and increase is the risk of showers and longer spells of rain. even more so this evening. we do have thundery showers across the uk, but they will start to fade away and then most places overnight will see clear skies, though towards the early hours, we could see some showers moving back into southwestern parts of the uk . temperatures generally the uk. temperatures generally the uk. temperatures generally the low to mid teens, so a little fresher than recent nights, but still quite warm for the time of year. monday morning gets off to a dry start for many. plenty of sunny spells, though the cloud quickly thickens from the southwest. this of rain pushes north this area of rain pushes north eastwards through the day, turning heavy at times, particularly across wales into
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the midlands, north—west england to elsewhere. we'll see a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers and the best of the sunshine towards the south—east. we could see highs around 24 or 25 celsius elsewhere . generally the high elsewhere. generally the high teens to low 20s that area of rain across north wales, northern england continues to push further north as we head through the evening and then further spells of rain push into southern parts of the uk as we move into the early hours. this could be heavy at times. so overnight a lot cloud around overnight a lot of cloud around outbreaks rain and that will outbreaks of rain and that will keep up generally keep temperatures up generally a little higher, 14 to degrees little higher, 14 to 17 degrees across much of the country . so across much of the country. so it means a cloudy, wet start for many tuesday morning. heavy showers already, but it should brighten up as we move through the morning, into the afternoon . but that will trigger a few heavy showers, too, over the next few days. it remains unsettled as that low pressure stays in charge. further showers and spells of rain and and longer spells of rain and temperatures around average . temperatures around average. >> a brighter outlook with boxed
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solar. >> a brighter outlook with boxed solar . proud >> a brighter outlook with boxed solar. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> thank you very much, greg. so we've got lots more coming up on today's show. elocution lessons keir starmer seems to think they're the key to breaking down class but will his new class barriers, but will his new plans really give disadvantaged students the edge? we've got all of that to come and more. i'm emily carver, and you're watching listening to gb watching and listening to gb news,
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radio. >> welcome back. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv onune with me, emily carver on your tv online and radio. so keir starmer, the latest policy from labour elocution lessons in order to further break down class barriers. sir keir starmer has said the best way of shattering the glass ceiling, not the glass ceiling. the glass ceiling is by ending the divide between academic vocational
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between academic and vocational education, he says. the ability to speak well and express yourself should be something that every child is entitled to and every child should master. he also said that confidence speaking gives you a steely core, which i think keir starmer probably needs . the amount of probably needs. the amount of time he spends balancing on the fence . stephen i've got with me fence. stephen i've got with me here and peter whittle, of course . what do you make of that? >> i rac i thought rac was the lead singer of the smiths, to be perfectly honest, when i first heard about it. but he's actually got a point getting back to the bbc. they used to have a thing in this country called received pronunciation. hello is the bbc we're hello this is the bbc and we're all godalming. thank all living in godalming. thank you indeed. that you very much indeed. and that was idea , is that people was the idea, is that people like noel who was a lad like noel coward, who was a lad from catford, ends up talking this, you know, this beautiful accent. people felt accent. a lot of people felt that was important. that that was important. but i don't think is actually don't think this is actually just class accent. no, just about class accent. no, it's the three of us have it's not. the three of us have all pretty classless all got pretty classless accents. think this accents. i think what this is about the to actually about is the ability to actually express yourself in a world of
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twitter tweeting twitter and tweeting and everything that everything. and that is important because communication everything. and that is imjthe ant because communication everything. and that is imjthe mostecause communication everything. and that is imjthe most importantimunication on the most important communication is eye to eye and interesting you say that and i don't wish to be overly cynical , but i did read a very interesting tweet, an article by joanna williams, who is often on this channel as a contributor. >> she wrote, it's all well and good children being able to express themselves , but they express themselves, but they have to have something worth saying . saying. >> no, think that's a very >> no, i think that's a very good point. and i think what she might referring to is might have been referring to is that when they have debates, for example , if they do have it as example, if they do have it as part of this new programme, which actually a good which i think is actually a good , thing in a way, if they , good thing in a way, if they have they've got to have debates, they've got to be able to disagree. i mean, the whole way our culture has gone now in education is that actually what you're allowed to disagree about is very, very narrow . in fact, everyone has narrow. in fact, everyone has safe spaces and all of that. so there has got to obviously be something to some serious consideration given to that on
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the on the broader point, i find it interesting coming from keir starmer , first of all, the tory, starmer, first of all, the tory, a tory leader, for example, could not put this forward without being accused of all sorts of terrible elitism and all of that. but the fact is it is broadly the educational policies that have been followed over 40, 50 years now, which more or less downgraded every thing such as literacy . you thing such as literacy. you know, basically it doesn't matter if your grammar is wrong. you know , anyone who's ever you know, anyone who's ever tried to take anyone on for a job knows this to be true. now, it's extraordinary the mistakes that you see and kids have been incredibly let down by this because the general sort of motive behind it was, oh, it these things are elitist. it doesn't matter. it doesn't my goodness. it matters. it matters hugely. >> we should be elitist. i think any good country must have, you know, must strive for an element
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of elitist . of elitist. >> have a thing on friday mornings in parliament called the youth parliament. and we actually bring people in to actually bring people in to actually have as a youth parliament there debate and afterwards are supposed afterwards the mps are supposed to say, to speak to people and say, gosh, you're absolutely wonderful, so super demosthenes marvellous. so super demosthenes thou living this thou shouldst be living at this houn thou shouldst be living at this hour. and i actually had to i said, listen, i'd be completely honest with you. all read honest with you. you all read little out of a piece little snippets out of a piece of paper. didn't any of paper. you didn't put any thought into you put and thought into it. you put no. and they said, that's what you lot do. i thought, lord, it's do. and i thought, my lord, it's the example of parliamentarians, you sit there. when you know, who sit there. when i first into parliament, if first came into parliament, if you read a piece you dared to read from a piece of paper, say, reading, of paper, they'd say, reading, reading. nowadays it's all these little predigested. >> tablets, you >> it shouldn't be tablets, you shouldn't to stand shouldn't be allowed to stand up and unless can do it and speak unless you can do it without notes mind. without your notes in mind. >> think the past that is >> i think in the past that is something that we need from our politicians. can't have politicians. we can't have them preaching they've got preaching rehearsed. they've got their little researcher writing preaching rehearsed. they've got th all little researcher writing preaching rehearsed. they've got th all for.e researcher writing preaching rehearsed. they've got th all for them. archer writing preaching rehearsed. they've got th all for them. i'cher writing preaching rehearsed. they've got thall for them. i don'tvriting preaching rehearsed. they've got thall for them. i don't think it all for them. i don't think that's it's that's good. but it's interesting that you you interesting that you say, you know, calibre know, talking about the calibre of politicians how they of our politicians and how they have because kyrees starmer of our politicians and how they hdon't because kyrees starmer of our politicians and how they hdon't know:ause kyrees starmer of our politicians and how they hdon't know iste kyrees starmer of our politicians and how they hdon't know if we'verees starmer of our politicians and how they hdon't know if we've got starmer of our politicians and how they hdon't know if we've got atarmer of our politicians and how they hdon't know if we've got a cliper i don't know if we've got a clip of this, perhaps we can play it
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in a moment. but keir starmer, he giving this he was on stage giving this speech to little protesters . speech to little protesters. teenage protesters interrupted him. there it is on our screen. they're interrupted him very, very gently , very gently with very gently, very gently with a banner about, you know, green new deal and something about eco activism. and he wasn't very well able to deal with it, was he ? he? >> stephen barclay he was not a great expert of rac himself. >> well, i think he was slightly thrown off his stride there, but i was. it shouldn't have been. no, but i was at a meeting with tony blair once and tony blair was speaking this woman was speaking and this woman stood for 12 minutes she stood up and for 12 minutes she absolutely excoriated this great list had list of everything he had done wrong all the shocking wrong and all the shocking things. blair he said things. and blair said he said he well, where i do agree he said, well, where i do agree with you is and i think that's the difference. blair the difference. you know, blair had and ability. had that skill and ability. >> problem is, is that there >> the problem is, is that there is this kind of great get out clause now where you can say, oh, all down to tweeting oh, it's all down to tweeting and media. lack of and social media. the lack of being to communicate. it's being able to communicate. it's not actually fact not actually i mean, the fact is, one of the reasons that
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social has stopped social mobility has stopped in this which or less this country, which more or less has, that people in has, is that people are in private schools, prestigious has, is that people are in private �*still)ls, prestigious has, is that people are in private �*still do prestigious has, is that people are in private �*still do learn gious schools still do learn this stuff . right. then stuff. right. and then basically, state basically, people in state schools, it's, oh, worry , schools, it's, oh, don't worry, you to compete. don't you don't have to compete. don't worry . we know what you worry. we all know what you mean. elitist, blah, mean. it's elitist, blah, blah, blah. disservice to these blah. huge disservice to these kids. yeah. the other thing i would say generally what do would say is generally what do you think? >> it's a bigotry of low expectations when comes in expectations when it comes in our exactly . it expectations when it comes in our exactly. it and expectations when it comes in our exactly . it and it's >> exactly. it is. and it's coming right through in all of society. you see the results of it people cannot it now, and people cannot actually communicate. it's not a question. no one's saying you've got to speak like the late queen. no one is sort of saying that you you should make parliamentary speeches just simple on a day to simple communication on a day to day written on a day to day level. and in terms of vocally thatis level. and in terms of vocally that is that is absolutely important . it that is that is absolutely important. it does come that is that is absolutely important . it does come down, important. it does come down, i think , as well from not just the think, as well from not just the anti elitism in education, but also, for example, the way in which we got rid of grammar schools. so for example, kids from poorer backgrounds, you
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know, went to grammar school. they rose through the ranks and grammar schools were always very good stuff. grammar schools were always very gooyeah, stuff. grammar schools were always very gooyeah, that stuff. grammar schools were always very gooyeah, that is ff. grammar schools were always very gooyeah, that is true. that is >> yeah, that is true. that is a very good point indeed. now, i will you what will tell you about what happened this rac plan was will tell you about what happ outi this rac plan was will tell you about what happ out in this rac plan was will tell you about what happ out in one this rac plan was will tell you about what happ out in one school,c plan was will tell you about what happ out in one school, butan was tried out in one school, but i'll let you know that in just one moment. you're watching or listening to gb news sunday with me, ahead, me, emily carver still ahead, 4 in 10 voters believe sir keir starmer take britain starmer plans to take britain back the eu. i'll be asking back into the eu. i'll be asking , can a leopard ever change its spots? but first, it's the news with rory . with rory. >> thank you very much, emily. the culture secretary says she's been assured by the bbc that allegations against a presenter are being investigated swiftly and sensitively. lucy frazer , and sensitively. lucy frazer, who spoke to director general tim davie , says the corporation tim davie, says the corporation must now be given the space to establish the facts and take appropriate action. when a man's been accused of paying a teenager tens of thousands of
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pounds for explicit images with the young person's mother telling the sun she saw a photo of him in his underwear on her child's phone. more than 1000 people have crossed the channel on small boats over the past two days. the home office says over 600 people were intercepted on friday and almost 400 made the journey yesterday while despite storm warnings, conditions are calm and gb news understands more than 200 people have already been intercepted. just this morning. already been intercepted. just this morning . that brings this this morning. that brings this year's total to £12,700. the home office says the number of people risking their lives is unacceptable and britain is preparing to host the us president , who's due to arrive president, who's due to arrive this evening . joe biden will this evening. joe biden will meet the king at windsor castle tomorrow. he'll then hold talks with prime minister rishi sunak , where he is expected to raise concerns over brexit. america's decision to send cluster munitions to ukraine could also
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listening to gb news radio show i >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv online and digital radio. now before the break we were discussing labour's rac plans, plans for rac lessons
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throughout the career column. now, i must say that i'm not against children learning how to speak properly , being able to speak properly, being able to express arguments coherently and being able to do so. but i will just say that this is not a new idea and actually it's being pioneered by a former blair adviser, i believe, who is now working for keir starmer. and it was actually us hyman i think it is paul hyman. he was it was tried and tried out in a school and apparently it went from outstanding to requires improvement because essentially they were focusing too much on they were focusing too much on the speaker thing and not enough on actual content and knowledge , which is possibly more important. as i said , if you're important. as i said, if you're going to express yourself , you going to express yourself, you need to have something to back it up. you need to have some knowledge. and apparently there were worryingly big gaps in their knowledge. so these things have out . so have to be balanced out. so i think, you know, perhaps keir starmer should avoid tinkering too much when it comes to this
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kind of thing. leave it to the teachers to decide. but that's that's just my view anyway , that's just my view anyway, moving on, a new poll has revealed 10 voters believe revealed 4 in 10 voters believe keir labour intends to keir starmers labour intends to reverse and rejoin the reverse brexit and rejoin the eu. a redfield and wilton strategies survey found 41% of voters still think that labour policy is to take britain back inside the bloc. such a move is sure to shatter the fragile coalition. the party is hoping to construct in order to beat rishi sunak and the conservatives in the next general election. well, maybe we shall can now speak with shall see. i can now speak with former labour party spokesman james mathewson on this. james do you think it's a good thing that the electorate believe the labour party wants to rejoin the european union ? european union? >> no, no. of course it's not a good thing. um and the problem is that i don't think there's any risk of this at all. i think people in the labour party who i've spoken to and people in the leader's office and the like are getting quite frustrated by this
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now. um, and it's showing because, you know, they, they don't believe that there's any risk of it happening and they want to put the conversation to bed once and for all. and it keeps being brought up and obviously obe the more that it's talked about, obviously obe the more that it's talked about , the more people talked about, the more people who have the concern that it would happen. and the more people you know, you say people who, you know, as you say in coalition, that labour in that coalition, that labour have managed bring together have managed to bring together need to be able to bring together win power, are going together to win power, are going together to win power, are going to doubts . so it's to start having doubts. so it's hugely concerning for the party. >> interesting, though, >> it's interesting, though, james, lot james, because there are a lot of in this country who of people in this country who would ideally like to see britain return to the european union. so perhaps if he can try and this seems to be keir starmer's tactic , try to sort of starmer's tactic, try to sort of keep everyone one happy by sort of people, some people thinking that, yes, labour would rejoin the eu, others think no, they're not going to perhaps a coalition could be built by just being vague. >> well i mean you've, you've
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you've hit the nail on the head there. really with how to be prime minister, haven't you, emily? because you know, being trying to walk both roads and keep everybody happy is kind of central and trying to central to the job and trying to get power because, you know, you're going win off of you're never going to win off of pleasing one. >> depressing, though. james >> so depressing, though. james that's because that's so depressing because it means never what our means we never know what our politicians actually going politicians are actually going to get into power. to do when they get into power. >> yeah, you're absolutely right. requires trust , right. and it requires trust, doesn't it? is this is doesn't it? this is this is central this discussion central to this discussion really, whether you have really, is whether you have trust starmer and trust in keir starmer and whether people can have trust in the labour party. keir starmer is man. at the end of the is one man. at the end of the day, surrounded by, you day, he's surrounded by, you know, strong labour figures who've been in the movement longer than him in some cases. so you know, it's to so you know, it's going to require people to put their trust in somebody else, which after past god, 13 or 15 after the past god, 13 or 15 years, you know, it's going to take a lot of doing for people to trust any politicians and just very lastly, if you were advising keir starmer, would you suggest he just spoke as little as possible about the big b word
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? >> 7- >> um, 7— >> um , there's ? >> um , there's a balance, 7 >> um , there's a balance, isn't >> um, there's a balance, isn't there, because people know if you're trying to ignore something entirely, you know, people see through it. >> so you've got to be able to address it, but do so in the right way. give those reassurances it's done, reassurances that it's done, it's but labour will it's dusted, but labour will seek to repair some of the damage of the negative aspects of brexit, but it needs to be very, very careful with his language on that because we're just starting to see improvement in those red wall seats, which i believe will win back. and but he could change that with with a few words . so yeah, my advice to few words. so yeah, my advice to starmer would to be talk less about it, but not, not not at all. not well . all. not well. >> i'm not sure if he could possibly talk less about it, but there you go. thank you very much indeed. advice from james matheson, a former labour party spokesman there. thank you very much. enjoyed that listening much. i enjoyed that, listening here studio is here with me in the studio is peter whittle and stephen pound . oh, peter , do you think that
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. oh, peter, do you think that well , we've seen . oh, peter, do you think that well, we've seen in . oh, peter, do you think that well , we've seen in the polls well, we've seen in the polls the conservatives are very much getting a kicking. so labour could get to power through no great enthusiasm from the electorate, but simply because they aren't , the tories do you they aren't, the tories do you think that sort of avoid adding the rejoin the eu question, avoiding the brexit question is probably the best bet. >> well, probably. i can't see that it will do any good, particularly for him . i mean, particularly for him. i mean, you know, not not really , as you you know, not not really, as you said, i mean, they are so far ahead that actually i wouldn't have thought there's any need to start talk about anything. >> don't frighten the horses. >> don't frighten the horses. >> that point. >> yes. almost to that point. and also, you know, basically they're simply going along they're just simply going along like they always have , which is like they always have, which is basically trying to , you know, basically trying to, you know, ride two horses, stay on the fence. very, very difficult and very, very violent manoeuvre that. but anyway, that's what they're doing and that's what he's continuing to do. >> but you know what i find it's
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so frustrating eating, though, just as a you know, as a as a layman, watching the political parties. i find it so frustrating because we know that parties. i find it so fruststarmeracause we know that parties. i find it so fruststarmer would we know that parties. i find it so fruststarmer would like znow that parties. i find it so fruststarmer would like to w that keir starmer would like to rejoin the european union if he had his wish because he campaigned, of course, for a second referendum. we know that he prefer for britain to he would prefer for britain to be in the european union. whether rejoin whether he wants to rejoin honestly, know. honestly, i don't know. >> his heart you can't >> inside his heart you can't unmake as unmake an omelette. it's as simple that. the you see simple as that. the you see it as an omelette. something as an omelette. it's something that at the moment you can't turn the clock back on this. you know, decisions taken. turn the clock back on this. you krtook decisions taken. turn the clock back on this. you krtook place :isions taken. turn the clock back on this. you krtook place inions taken. turn the clock back on this. you krtook place in june taken. turn the clock back on this. you krtook place in june 2016.taken. turn the clock back on this. you krtook place in june 2016. job n. it took place in june 2016. job done. cannot undo it. it done. you cannot undo it. it would undemocratic to would be totally undemocratic to try you know, let's have try to say, you know, let's have another because another referendum, because then if work, we have if that doesn't work, we have the best out of three insane. the of european the problems of the european union moment are more union at the moment are more about poland hungary about keeping poland and hungary and other places in the european union. think a customs union. i think a customs union is genuine possibility. the is a genuine possibility. the problems northern problems we face in northern ireland 300 border ireland with the 300 mile border and windsor and the so—called windsor framework not been solved. framework have not been solved. but if we did apply to rejoin the union, do you the european union, do you remember was prime remember when sanchez was prime minister said of
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minister of spain and he said of course he can come back as long as we can have gibraltar, you know, all the other countries, because be because it would have to be a unanimous decision by every single european country. it ain't happen. ain't going to happen. but i think there's a possibility on cold, hard economic grounds that of of coming of getting some sort of coming back in a customs union. >> well, i do think just lastly, peter, i think going to be the euro, i do think even euro, though i do think even though says he does though keir starmer says he does not to rejoin the european not want to rejoin the european union highly likely that union, it is highly likely that it will be moving in that direction. insofar as more alignment with the european union . we've seen a lot of union. we've seen a lot of people argue that the conservative government haven't got done as it should be. got brexit done as it should be. do you see that sort of weakening more ? weakening even more? >> that is the absolute reason why things have failed. so far is that you have a conservative party and an establishment. is that you have a conservative party and an establishment . and party and an establishment. and let's not forget, almost every part of it who were shocked to their foundations by the result of that referendum . and that's of that referendum. and that's why we're still talking about it i
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>> -- >> it was a slap in the face. >> it was a slap in the face. >> yes. >> yes. >> so basically, the will has not been there to actually take advantage of any of the huge benefits that could have been from i mean, you know , it from that. i mean, you know, it is quite extraordinary how it has been allowed to simply to wither on the vine . wither on the vine. >> well, some people would say, oh, you know, there's been a pandemic. and of course, there was know establishment attempts to the vote. et cetera. to override the vote. et cetera. et cetera. but i do think that, well, the conservatives are running out of time, aren't they? the clock is ticking. but let's have a look what you've let's have a look at what you've been saying at home about just stop oil. this is about the potential just stop oil to potential for just stop oil to disrupt silverstone today, the formula course , they formula one. and of course, they crashed osborne's wording crashed george osborne's wording . who is this? we've got ray , he . who is this? we've got ray, he says.i . who is this? we've got ray, he says. i consider that the media are feeding just stop oil by giving them air time. oops, sorry, ray morris has written in. he why not name these in. he says, why not name these protesters have they got solar panels their have they panels on their roofs? have they got electric cars on their drives? their garden drives? is their garden overgrown ? well, this is sort of
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overgrown? well, this is sort of c51 , csi. do overgrown? well, this is sort of cs1 , csi. do not hang on. what's csi, csi. do not hang on. what's the saying? what's the saying? stephen, help me out. says i do not what i know. say what i say. >> do what i say. do as i say. not as i do. >> do as i say. >>— >> do as i say. >> not as i do. as i do. >>— >> not as i do. as i do. >> do as you would be done by. >> do as you would be done by. >> oh dear. >> oh dear. >> you can see it's getting to the end of the programme. anyway. we're going to be moving on to a very controversial topic actually, and it's quite shocking happening in shocking what's happening in some schools. white some of our schools. white pupils a school haringey pupils at a school in haringey that's borough that's in north london borough have excluded extra have been excluded from extra literacy where the focus literacy lessons where the focus will black will be on teaching black history and culture. other schools will fund saturday classes for children from black heritage families only to accelerate accelerate progress in reading and writing, whilst also developing the children's knowledge of black history and culture. the parents were informed that no comparative course be offered for white course will be offered for white pupils presumably any other pupils or presumably any other ethnic group because of course, nonh ethnic group because of course, north london is very diverse north london is a very diverse area. not just black and area. it's not just black and white kids that will be going to these schools. so i want to get
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these schools. so i want to get the thoughts of panel this the thoughts of my panel on this one, because sure you've one, because i'm sure you've got some strong peter, some very strong views. peter, you your own you often talk on your own channel. yes. the new culture forum about the toxicity of identity politics. do you see this as well ? the logical this as well? the logical conclusion of that ideology? >> it absolutely is or should be not the logical conclusion so much as one of the obvious results of it. actually, i'm not. i don't mean to split hairs there. look, i mean, the fact is we've got something happening here which is pure racism, right? that is white kids who, by way, do the worst in our by the way, do the worst in our education system , being excluded education system, being excluded from classes. right. as a result, basically, which is what it is of critical race theory, which is now being taught in schools far more widely than most people realise. right it's probably illegal what's happening in this school. right? but you can be pretty sure nothing will be done about it, right? it's this pure discrimination action, pure discrimination. but it's based
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on a racist idea which is critical race theory, which is that white people all are inherently racist by virtue of being white. right. that is what is being taught in schools. right? something like 60% of schools have either introduced this to kids or they've used outside bodies who come in with the materials to teach it. it's just like the gender argument. it's the same thing. all i would say, emily, is i really wish parents have got to wake up. they've got to wake up about what's happening schools. what's happening in our schools. you this is just one of you know, this is just one of the think going to see the i think we're going to see a lot more of. >> it's worth saying that this is a council initiative, more than the schools per se, choosing do this. it's choosing to do this. it's something been by something that's been offered by the council behalf of the the council on behalf of the hanngey the council on behalf of the haringey partnership , haringey education partnership, but quite extraordinary but it's quite extraordinary that any additional extra resources would be given, provided to students based on their ethnicity. i mean, there's so much to say about this. i
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mean, it's patronising for one thing that it's only the black kids who need extra support . kids who need extra support. right. but what do you make of it? it's also slightly confusing when they say, you know, people of african or african heritage. >> i mean, you know, where on earth that end? the earth does that end? look, the other worries me other thing that worries me about this actually happened last september. it's only just come now because come out now because some parents been complaining parents have been complaining to hanngey parents have been complaining to haringey time. and it haringey for a long time. and it also cost £400 a time. you know, again, most again, haringey is not the most wealthy the world, wealthy borough in the world, but they know how to but i think they know how to spend money. >> let tell you that. they >> let me tell you that. they spent knows how much spent god knows how much changing sign boy changing the road sign black boy lane remember. i know. lane if you remember. i know. and people who on and the people who lived on black i wrote about black boy lane, i wrote about this the time. the people on this at the time. the people on black boy lane didn't want it to change. >> i know. i remember when i working for hammersmith council, they the name working for hammersmith council, th
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because through the because they're seen through the lens or lens of critical race theory or whatever call it. whatever you want to call it. >> makes a very, very >> peter makes a very, very important point. he's made a number of important points. the thing you a look at thing is, if you have a look at under attainment in british under attainment in the british educational system, working class come bottom class white boys are come bottom of single time. of the panel every single time. so how are you going to feel if we're talking about general educational attainment? that's one be one thing. but they seem to be talking history now, talking about black history now, where in west ealing, where i live in west ealing, i've lived all life irish, i've lived all my life irish, poush i've lived all my life irish, polish communities and we have irish lessons that we have the irish lessons that we have the irish make our own irish centre, we make our own our education. the polish our own education. the polish saturday schools do that. you don't have it spoon fed don't need to have it spoon fed to if you want to cherish to you if you want to cherish your go ahead and do your culture, go ahead and do it. don't the to it. but don't expect the to state it. and above all, state pay for it. and above all, don't expect to be having that at disadvantage of somebody at the disadvantage of somebody else. interesting, >> it's quite interesting, peter, come to you in just peter, i'll come to you in just one second. just want to put one second. i just want to put this to you because i think the telegraph story at telegraph broke this story or at least reported on it first, a parent with a child at one of these exactly what these schools said exactly what stephen saying. why stephen is saying. he said, why should black heritage should black and black heritage children get extra support in reading when is
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reading and writing when it is obvious access to obvious to anyone with access to the it is white the internet that it is white boys who are doing worst academically and are being left behind? is been going behind? and this is been going on for many years. here's an idea why not use these resources to help any matter the to help any child no matter the colour their skin? who needs colour of their skin? who needs help? yes, know. >> but the thing is, i would say one of the reasons why young white boys have fallen behind indeed are the least likely to go to university. so much for white privilege, right? lisa is indeed because of the general drift of educational policy, which is to constantly even subconsciously, make them the villains of the piece. i mean , villains of the piece. i mean, you know, we know that with critical race theory, who is the bogeyman? it is the straight white man right there , quite white man right there, quite clear about this. and that essentially, as i said by virtue of your whiteness, this makes you racist . right. which, of you racist. right. which, of course, is ultimately , as i say, course, is ultimately, as i say, again, the most racist thing . again, the most racist thing. but the fact is, is that what
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worries me, i think, was far more important than that, is that this is happening in our schools. so you're having kids coming out with all of this in their head like with gender their head just like with gender theory . two parents i really theory. two parents i really appeal to parents to look and see who is providing the materials for these classes. and then you've got to demand to be able to see it because that's the other thing. quite often schools will actually they will say, oh, no, we can't, because commercial reasons we can't show you. and all of this. you've just to keep on going and just got to keep on going and find out who's indoctrinating your kids. >> it's like with sex >> it's like with the sex education in the tools that were being used, in the workshops that used schools. that were being used in schools. parents always been able parents haven't always been able to actually view the materials that their children are being taught on very contentious issues. and i think this all stems, although it was going on before, accelerated before, but it got accelerated after the black lives matter movement . it accelerated in this movement. it accelerated in this country after the death of george floyd, after the killing of george floyd and it seems
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like it's still, you know, going through our schools. this could be one of the determinants in america. >> but you cannot imagine the debates that are taking place in america at the present time. but, know , the more i look but, you know, the more i look at this, the more i'm horrified by a particular situation. by it, a particular situation. and we have to and i think that we have to actually somehow get beyond this. to through this. you have to get through this, absolutely. this, i think absolutely. >> right. now, gb news >> that's right. now, gb news has reached out for comment previously. zena previously. councillor zena brabazon haringey council brabazon from haringey council has the telegraph if it has has told the telegraph if it has long been recognised in haringey that there is historic and established attainment gap between black african , black between black african, black canbbean between black african, black caribbean pupils and their white british no, there isn't. british peers. no, there isn't. our haringey and our schools here in haringey and the authority are the local authority are absolutely determined to collectively do something about those teaching those statistics. our teaching staff lengths to staff go to great lengths to ensure all children and ensure that all children and young irrespective young people, irrespective of their race or background, receive best education receive the very best education possible. let you assess possible. i'll let you assess that at home. i'll let you decide what you make of that particular comment . but you've particular comment. but you've been getting in touch on our big topic of the day. well, one of our big topics of the day,
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labour's eu leanings, simon says when starmer gets downing when starmer gets to downing street, back in the street, we will be back in the customs union. starmer is a human lawyer, in human rights lawyer, lives in a castle, live in a normal castle, doesn't live in a normal street, won't to stop street, won't even try to stop the boats. he will probably help them legal case in them fight any legal case in says. politicians, he says. like most politicians, he says. like most politicians, he says he thinks want to says what he thinks we want to heat says what he thinks we want to hear. he becomes prime hear. and if he becomes prime minister, he will u—turn and carry out his real socialist and europol agenda. and bella, you've say you've got in touch. you say don't as far as i don't trust starmer. as far as i can throw him. well, there you go. you sending in go. thank you for sending in those subscribe to our those views. subscribe to our youtube us youtube channel, follow us on twitter. at gb news. twitter. we're at gb news. that's it from me today. but stay tuned because we have nana akuain stay tuned because we have nana akua in the studio. >> i just envying your >> oh, i was just envying your dress. lovely, it? dress. it's lovely, isn't it? really thought might really nice. thought i might blend background on really nice. thought i might bleibackground. background on my background. >> ukrainian flag. >> it's a ukrainian flag. >> it's a ukrainian flag. >> is. on my god. so we are. >> it is. on my god. so we are. there you go. that's true. >> on message or saying, you know, signalling in studio? >> of course not. >>— >> of course not. >> interestingly enough, >> well, interestingly enough, we be talking little bit we will be talking a little bit about ukraine whole about ukraine on the whole cluster it's cluster bomb issue because it's a a terrible type of bomb a bit of a terrible type of bomb and it seems that the americans
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are going along with it. but we don't want to do that. we'll don't want to do that. so we'll be discussing plus the be discussing that. plus the banks. earth we have banks. why on earth we have adopted but adopted the eu legislation, but yet it and made it yet we've adapted it and made it worse for ourselves and we could actually of the actually get rid of the legislation requires us to. legislation that requires us to. we don't have to have this pet business on this business going on in this country way is. so we'll country the way it is. so we'll be that sounds fantastic. >> sounds interesting >> sounds very interesting indeed. hear indeed. i'm interested to hear the over bombs, the debate over cluster bombs, stephen. can't say stephen. no, you can't say you've so much time to say, you've had so much time to say, but i now say goodbye to but i must now say goodbye to our lovely viewers and listeners. been watching listeners. you've been watching and news sunday and listening to gb news sunday with me. emily carver, thank you so for joining with me. emily carver, thank you so forjoining me and so much forjoining me and stephen this stephen and peter this afternoon. but don't go anywhere. up next. but anywhere. nana is up next. but before take a quick before that, let's take a quick look at the weather with greg. >> that warm inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxed proud sponsors >> that warm feeling inside from boweather proud sponsors >> that warm feeling inside from boweather on proud sponsors >> that warm feeling inside from boweather on gb roud sponsors >> that warm feeling inside from boweather on gb news. jonsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast where showers and longer where further showers and longer spells of rain over the next few days. there will be some sunshine though, for many of sunshine though, but for many of us will feel fresher. and the us it will feel fresher. and the reason for is this area of reason for this is this area of low pressure. it's been around
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over days. just sat over the last few days. just sat to the west of us. but over the coming few days, it actually spreads towards us and increase raises the risk of showers and longer spells of rain. even more so this evening. we do have thundery showers across the uk, but they will start to fade away and then most places overnight we'll see clear skies, though, towards the early hours . we towards the early hours. we could see some showers moving back into the south western parts of the uk. back into the south western parts of the uk . temperatures parts of the uk. temperatures generally the low to mid teens, so a little fresher than recent nights, but still quite warm for the time of year. monday morning gets off to a dry start for many . plenty of sunny spells, though the cloud quickly thickens from the cloud quickly thickens from the this of rain the southwest. this area of rain pushes eastwards through pushes north eastwards through the , turning heavy at times, the day, turning heavy at times, particularly across wales into the midlands, north—west england to elsewhere. we'll see a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers and the best of the sunshine towards the south—east. see highs south—east. we could see highs around 24 or 25 celsius elsewhere. generally the high teens to low 20s that area of
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rain across north wales, northern england continues to push further north as we head through the evening and then further spells of rain push into southern parts of the uk as we move into the early hours. this could be heavy at times. so overnight a lot of cloud around outbreaks of rain and that will keep temperatures up generally a little higher, degrees little higher, 14 to 17 degrees across much of the country . so across much of the country. so it means a cloudy, wet start for many tuesday morning. heavy showers already, but it should brighten up as we move through the morning, into the afternoon . but that will trigger a few heavy showers, over the heavy showers, too, over the next few days. it remains unsettled as that low pressure stays in charge , further showers stays in charge, further showers and longer spells of rain than temperatures around average. that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers . boxed boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on gb news in a world of dull and predictable radio and tv shows . predictable radio and tv shows. >> oh hi on mark dolan tonight,
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