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one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour, going head to head, nelson going head to head, nigel nelson and also ben habib. they'll be going head to head in a clash of minds. then from four till six, amy nicole and danny kelly will be before we get be joining me. but before we get started , let's get your latest started, let's get your latest news headlines . thank you started, let's get your latest news headlines. thank you very much, nana. >> i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom. i'm the culture secretary says she's been assured by the bbc that allegations against a presenter are being investigated swiftly and sensitively . lucy frazer, and sensitively. lucy frazer, who spoke to director general tim davie, says the corporation must now be given the space to establish the facts and take appropriate action. a man's been accused of paying a teenager tens of thousands of pounds for explicit images with a young person's mother telling the sun she saw a photo of him in his underwear on her child's phone. well, former conservative party leader sir iain duncan smith says the case has not been

handled properly by the bbc. >> i don't quite know what they're doing. it's in a mess, clearly, if you read the newspaper reports, you can see that the bbc has tried to play this down from the beginning and it's worked because it's it's not worked because it's exploded. they don't any exploded. they don't have any plan, any any inquiries that they're taking place seem to be a mess. and that's led to a whole series of reputational damage across the newspapers to the bbc. the bbc should act like everybody else does immediately suspend somebody pending the investigation action. and that way it's clear and then he can get on with it. at this stage, try and do it quietly and behind the scenes. it never works because somebody the because somebody has blown the gaff they're in trouble gaff and they're in trouble over it than 1000 people have it more than 1000 people have crossed the channel on small boats over the past two days. >> the home office says over 600 people were intercepted on friday and almost 400 made the journey yesterday . well, despite journey yesterday. well, despite storm warnings, conditions are calm and gb news understood as more than 200 people have

already been intercept sighted this morning. it brings this year's total to 12,700. the home office says the number of people risking their lives is unacceptable . britain is unacceptable. britain is preparing to host the us president , who's due to arrive president, who's due to arrive this evening . if you're watching this evening. if you're watching on television, these are now live pictures at dover air force base in delaware . the president base in delaware. the president is just about to disembark from a helicopter where he will then get on air force one. that will take him to stansted airport. well, tomorrow, joe biden will meet the king at windsor castle. he'll then hold talks with the prime minister, rishi sunak , prime minister, rishi sunak, where he is expected to raise concerns over brexit. while america's decision to send cluster munitions to ukraine could also be discussed . well, could also be discussed. well, joe biden's visit comes ahead of the nato summit in lithuania, where the prime minister will urge allies to bolster their

defence spending . speaking in defence spending. speaking in vilnius on tuesday, rishi sunak is expected to say that we're seeing unprecedented security challenges . the uk seeing unprecedented security challenges. the uk remains one of the few nato members meeting the alliance's requirement to spend at least 2% of national income on defence, more than 700 firearms have been seized in the uk by the national crime agency. forces have been working with police in spain to stop guns, which can be easily converted from entering the uk . in 11 from entering the uk. in 11 cases, firearms were sent to people with mental health issues and seven involved people with extremist views. the ncs says 74 people have been arrested , people have been arrested, resulting in 50 convictions over the past five years. just stop. oil has denied any involvement in the stunt at the former chancellor's wedding yesterday , chancellor's wedding yesterday, the group posted a video of a woman throwing orange confetti at george osborne and his wife,

thea rogers . but it's now saying thea rogers. but it's now saying it was not responsible. just stop oil , however, applauded the stop oil, however, applauded the move , which generated publicity move, which generated publicity for its cause . the chancellor is for its cause. the chancellor is set to outline so—called evolutionary pension reforms to boost economic growth. jeremy hunt plans to make changes to pension funds, encouraging investors to support fast growing businesses as well. in a speech tomorrow, he's expected to say the changes will be gradual, not drastic . the gradual, not drastic. the government says the aim is to help savers pension schemes and the uk . concerns have been the uk. concerns have been raised about the thousands of display st ukrainians who are still in temporary accommodation in scotland . the liberal in scotland. the liberal democrats say more than 3000 ukrainians are still in hotels and around 700 are on board. the ms victoria cruise ship with the party says progress has been slow and it criticised the lack of resources. the government

says it's working on longer term housing and the met office is warning of more heavy showers and thunderstorms. it's after rain and storms disrupted major sporting events such as wimbledon and the ashes yesterday. the met office is predicting prolonged heavy rain in scotland and a northern ireland that will face strong winds, hail and even potential flooding . heavy showers are also flooding. heavy showers are also expected to hit wales, the midlands and the southwest of england as gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to nana . though, it's back to nana. thank you, rory. >> before we get stuck into the debate, if you just tuned in, welcome on board nana akua. and over the next hour, we'll be going head to head in a clash of minds. and joining me today, political commentator nigel nelson former brexit

nelson and also former brexit party mep ben habib. right. so on the way as well, we'll be discussing the bbc is in a crisis mode at the moment. it's in crisis seems to be in that mode for quite some time. it's always in crisis. urgent talks have been held between the culture secretary and the bbc over an presenter over an unnamed presenter accused paying child for accused of paying child for sexual pictures . as nigel. sexual pictures. as nigel. jeremy hunt. and now even our military. who's next will be asking whether the government has lost control of our banking system. inspectors from the prison watchdog of branded new migrant centres in durham inhumane. but why .7 and, well, inhumane. but why.7 and, well, the answer no wi—fi and a lack of hair salon. i mean, seriously , can you believe it.7 and of course, the war in ukraine, it reaches its 500th day. we'll look at the growing unease over the us's decision to supply ukraine with more cluster bombs. is that really the most peaceful way to try to end the conflict there? and despite the bbc in there? and despite the bbc in the headlines today , there's the headlines today, there's

also more drama with itv with the company forced to deny tensions between hosts alison hammond and dermot o'leary. tensions between hosts alison hammond and dermot o'leary . yes, hammond and dermot o'leary. yes, they were there to rescue the sinking ship that is this morning . that's coming up in the morning. that's coming up in the next hour. aslef, tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com tweet me gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. so it's gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. so it's just coming up to nine minutes after 3:00. this is gb news, the people's channel. of course, i don't forget as well, you can listen to us live on digital radio right? so let's start with the first story. we're going head to head with this one. it's the bbc director—general. he's told the culture that the culture secretary that the corporation and swiftly and corporation are and swiftly and sensitively investigating the allegations against an unnamed presenter there. now, this comes after reports that prominent after reports that a prominent bbc presenter paid a teenager for sexually explicit pictures. let's cross over to broadcaster house and get the latest from our political reporter, olivia hartley. so, olivia, can you give update ?

give us an update? >> yes. well today it feels very much as though the spotlight has turned onto the bbc over the last few days, it has emerged that a bbc presenter, a household name as it's known, has been paid a teenager to send sexually explicit photos . up to sexually explicit photos. up to £35,000 has been put into this teenager's bank account. now that was the mother who who was raised this story, who's given it to the sun, says that she went forward with her complaint two months ago. so the question is why between in the middle of may and now , has this presenter may and now, has this presenter not been taken off air? and why doesit not been taken off air? and why does it appear that no investigation is underway? the bbc has said that it investigates any claims of inappropriate behaviour by its presenters that it's given, but in some cases it doesn't necessarily say in this case, but in some cases it simply doesn't have enough information to progress any further . and it to progress any further. and it has promised that it will

investigate . but for the mother investigate. but for the mother of this child who she claims that the money used , the money that the money used, the money paid to her son or daughter has been used to fund a crack addiction. the fact that this presenter has still been on air all this time for the last eight weeks is pretty. politicians from all sides of the political spectrum from priti patel, the former home secretary darling of the tory right to rachel reeves, the tory right to rachel reeves, the chancellor, the shadow chancellor, have criticised the bbc, saying that the investigations process doesn't appear to be swift enough. priti patel has gone as far as to say that broadcasters broadcasting gods she calls them are simply given too much protection and that the bbc has become a nameless and faceless organisation . so the bbc is now organisation. so the bbc is now under a lot of pressure to respond very quickly. but whatever it does now, there's a feeling around that even that might too be little, too late, given that two month break when nothing appeared to have been done. >> olivia , thank you very much. >> olivia, thank you very much. that's olivia utley suella gb news, political reporter and some breaking news with that

story with regard to the bbc, the unnamed presenter has been suspended , but they still remain suspended, but they still remain unnamed . right. so let's welcome unnamed. right. so let's welcome again to my panel gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. also former brexit party mep ben habib. nelson. also former brexit party mep ben habib . i'm going to mep ben habib. i'm going to start with you, nigel. so this whole scenario with the bbc, they seem to take so long to do anything. made complaints anything. i've made complaints to saying to them about somebody saying something me and i went it something to me and i went it and i went a complaint loop. and i went in a complaint loop. it was ridiculous. but why do you it's taken them so you think it's taken them so long actually do anything long to actually do anything since that since the initial letter that they there's awful, awful >> well, there's an awful, awful lot of sort of missing pieces to this jigsaw. so the question obviously first off, how did obviously is, first off, how did the allegation come through prison ? twombley stars get prison? twombley big stars get lots of allegations coming against with no evidence against them with no evidence thrown in. now, what the mother seems said is that there seems to have said is that there is some evidence from bank accounts, from online bank accounts, from online bank accounts that she would accounts that that she would have been able to produce this. so quite clearly , if you if the so quite clearly, if you if the bbc knew that that money had

been paid to that child , that been paid to that child, that would have warranted an instant investigation . the bbc seemed to investigation. the bbc seemed to suggest that the mother is not cooperated with them as much as she should have done, but either way, it's a serious. >> did you see that? what did you see that it's in the bbc statement. >> the bbc statement is that it it suggests that they haven't had as much control packed with her for an investigation as they would like. now, if that turns out to be true, one can understand why it couldn't be taken on. but it's such a serious allegation that the bbc should have moved much quicker. and certainly it's right that now it's reached the public domain. they're moving quickly now, ben habib, your thoughts? >> well, my i mean, i, i think it's important in all these matters. and i know we're going to talk about banks and so on later that everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. right. and as nigel says , it right. and as nigel says, it can't be any shortage of famous people having false allegations

made against them. so we need to tread quite carefully. the thing that doesn't add up for me is that doesn't add up for me is that this seems like an open and shut case. the way it's being presented . you know, an elderly, presented. you know, an elderly, an older man, a man of mature, a mature man has paid money for sexually explicit photographs of a child that seems to be what's being said that is illegal. so why hasn't the mother. >> well, it depends how old the person is, doesn't it? >> what ? the child? well, >> what? the child? well, presumably under 16. >> but the under 18 is the under 18. >> but the fact is that it's pictures of this person and they're explicit. but it is got a very seedy whiff to it. it's not it's not a good thing. yeah, but if it's if it is criminal, which is the way it's being presented as far as where i read it, is why did the mother go to the son and not to the police? >> granted, and with a serious allegation like that, if supported by bank statements, which clearly evidence the money flowing for whatever reason, you know, the bbc should investigate. but as a parent, i

would have gone straight to the police over it. yeah. and you know, and i suppose maybe they maybe it was because they didn't feel that there was much response. >> let me read to the bbc statement anyway, because nigel, you referenced it, so i'll read it in full. here's what the bbc statement says. the bbc takes any allegations seriously and we have internal processes any allegations seriously and we ha place internal processes any allegations seriously and we haplace proactively'ocesses any allegations seriously and we ha place proactively deal;es in place to proactively deal with such allegations . this is a with such allegations. this is a complex and fast moving set of circumstances, and the bbc is currently is working as quickly as possible to establish the facts in order to properly inform appropriate next steps. it is important that these matters are handled fairly and with care. we have been clear that if any at any point new information comes to light or is provided to us that this will be acted upon appropriately and actively and actively followed up . the bbc's first became aware up. the bbc's first became aware of a complaint in may. new allegations were put to us on thursday of a different nature and in addition to our own

enquiries, we've also been in touch with external authorities in line with our protocols . we in line with our protocols. we can also confirm a male presenter of staff has been suspended . we expect to be in a suspended. we expect to be in a position to provide a further update in the coming days as the process continues. the bbc board will continue to keep to keep up to date. that's what the bbc has said. so there's no they're just saying that new information has come light, which is why i come to light, which is why i was an earlier was talking about an earlier statement when it statement they made when it first came first first came out. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so mean, a lot of people >> so i mean, a lot of people look at the bbc then think, oh, god, there's so many things that keep light with it. keep coming to light with it. there we there are comfortable. do we feel there are to play this play, this licence fee that we were talking yesterday and were talking about yesterday and they're now they're talking about now a model that taken from model that will be taken from broadband than actually broadband rather than actually discussing should discussing whether they should even be funded by the public. >> mean, know, it's >> yeah, i mean, you know, it's interesting. the bbc trades, i think, slightly on the notion that it's a national treasure, that it's a national treasure, that it's a national treasure, that it's of our, you know, that it's part of our, you know, the sort of british setup, as it were, reproach. but of were, beyond reproach. but of course a bit like course it isn't. and a bit like the nhs, need have

the nhs, we need to have a proper discussion about what the bbc's role is in lives and bbc's role is in our lives and it's different set of it's quite different set of circumstances. the bbc operates in now than it did 30 years ago and you know, the whole question about the licence fee needs to be taken in the round with the whole set up of the bbc. what is the bbc? and an awful lot of stories seem to be coming up about the bbc. richard sharp, the chairman , had to resign the chairman, had to resign recently because of the manner in he appointed, but in which he was appointed, but that was a bit a that was that was a bit of a story well. story as well. >> i thought. felt that was >> i thought. i felt that was somewhat because was somewhat unfair because it was more do with the fact that more to do with the fact that he'd on a contract to he'd passed on a contract to somebody who then maybe lent bofis somebody who then maybe lent boris money, a boris some money, which is a cousin. >> would have w—n >> but it would have been that would much more straight. >> the whole thing would have been much more straightforward. >> akua a good job as >> nana akua doing a good job as well. >> nana akua doing a good job as welyeah, it would have been >> yeah, but it would have been much straightforward the much more straightforward if the bbc a national bbc wasn't just a national entity if it was private entity that if it was a private entity, then sharp's entity, then richard sharp's appointment done in the appointment would be done in the normal private normal way that private businesses you know, deal businesses are, you know, deal with their appointments. it would public

would never have been a public domain and treads domain issue and so treads this kind weird between kind of weird line between operating an ever changing operating in an ever changing socio media dominated socio social media dominated world claiming a world and still claiming to be a pubuc world and still claiming to be a public sector broadcaster and an impartial public sector broadcaster. i think that broadcaster. and i think that whole needs to be looked whole thing needs to be looked at in the round. >> nigel yeah, mean, i think >> nigel yeah, i mean, i think that ben is absolutely right. >> nigel yeah, i mean, i think that ben is absolutely right . a that ben is absolutely right. a lot of comparisons with the nhs on and the on this, both on funding and the way public actually way the public actually approaches the bbc. it seems to me that if you, if you're going to have an independent national pubuc to have an independent national public service broadcaster and an international one, the licence fee is the best way of doing it because what you don't want is advertise rising and therefore they're in hock to commercial operations. the question is how the licencing licence fee works . the idea of licence fee works. the idea of £159 across the board , it is, as £159 across the board, it is, as richard sharp said , a regressive richard sharp said, a regressive kind of tax. so perhaps we could do it on property value based on, say, council tax bands . you on, say, council tax bands. you could do it on the number of devices you have in your home at

the moment. one licence. why you do it, whether you actually watch the thing or not. >> i mean, if you don't watch it, then why should you have to pay-7 it, then why should you have to pay? you could do it. >> you could always do it on subscription. >> but i actually also believe that i don't think they should get just straight to get to just go straight to subscription models all the subscription models with all the things in place. things they have in place. otherwise floor otherwise they wipe the floor with commercial with all the commercial operators got so operators because they've got so much own stuff. well, much of their own stuff. well, listen, want you guys listen, i want to ask you guys if you're listening and watching listen, i want to ask you guys if get re listening and watching listen, i want to ask you guys if get in listening and watching listen, i want to ask you guys if get in touch ng and watching listen, i want to ask you guys if get in touch with 1d watching listen, i want to ask you guys if get in touch with your|tching listen, i want to ask you guys if get in touch with your views| to get in touch with your views on the bbc and whether you think actually the time for actually now is the time for them to look at the model with which we pay for it and actually determine that it's totally out of i'm of date. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio, on sunakis tv, online and on digital radio, on sunak is set to on the way rishi sunak is set to welcome the uk in the welcome biden to the uk in the wake of the president promising cluster bombs to ukraine. has the first, the us gone too far? but first, let's get update with your weather. >> that warm feeling inside aid from boxed boilers is proud sponsors of weather on gb news. hello >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest forecast. latest gb news weather forecast. well, showers and longer

well, further showers and longer spells the next few spells of rain over the next few days. there will be some sunshine, though , but for many sunshine, though, but for many of us it will feel fresher. and the reason for this is this area of pressure. it's been of low pressure. it's been around over the last few days. just the west of us. but just sat to the west of us. but over the coming few days, it actually spreads towards and actually spreads towards us and increase aces risk of increase aces the risk of showers and longer spells of rain. even more. this evening we do have thundery showers across the uk, but they will start to fade away and then most places overnight will see clear skies though towards the early hours, we could see some showers moving back into southwestern parts of the uk. temperatures generally in the low to mid teens. the uk. temperatures generally in the low to mid teens . so in the low to mid teens. so a little fresher than recent nights , but still quite warm for nights, but still quite warm for the time of year. monday morning gets off to a dry start for many, plenty of sunny spells, though the cloud quickly thickens southwest. thickens from the southwest. this rain pushes north this area of rain pushes north eastwards the day , eastwards through the day, turning heavy at times, particularly across wales into the north—west england the midlands, north—west england to elsewhere. we'll see a mixture of sunny spells and

scattered showers and the best of the sunshine towards the south—east. could highs south—east. we could see highs around 24 or 25 celsius elsewhere. generally the high teens to low 20s that area of rain across north wales, northern england continues to push further north as we head through the evening and then further spells of rain push into southern parts of the uk. as we move into the early hours. this could be heavy at times. so overnight a lot of cloud around outbreaks of rain and that will keep temperatures up. generally a little higher, to 17 a little higher, 14 to 17 degrees across much of the country . so it means a cloudy, country. so it means a cloudy, wet start for many tuesday morning. heavy showers already, but it should brighten up as we move through the morning, into the afternoon . but that will the afternoon. but that will trigger heavy showers, trigger a few heavy showers, too, over the next few days. it remains unsettled as that low pressure stays in charge further showers and longer spells of rain temperatures around rain than temperatures around average . average. >> that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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radio. it's just gone 24 minutes after 3:00. >> this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. it's head to head . let's akua. it's head to head. let's take a look at what you've been saying with regard to the allegations against the unnamed bbc . let's see with bbc presenter. let's see with regard to the licence fee. hugo says, why is the bbc investigating allegation investigating this allegation and not the police or child protection agency? very good question. may have already question. they may have already approached the police. we don't know. had, you'd know. but if they had, you'd think say julia says think they would say julia says one more reason to get rid of the and the licence fee. i the bbc and the licence fee. i never watch the bbc, so it's very frustrating that to very frustrating that i have to pay very frustrating that i have to pay the licence fee , emily says.

very frustrating that i have to pthinke licence fee , emily says. very frustrating that i have to pthink it'sence fee , emily says. very frustrating that i have to pthink it's timefee , emily says. very frustrating that i have to pthink it's time to , emily says. very frustrating that i have to pthink it's time to stop|ily says. very frustrating that i have to pthink it's time to stop the says. i think it's time to stop the bbc it seems bbc licence fee. it seems corrupt . it has little corrupt. it has little discipline with staff . the discipline with its staff. the programmes are nearly all sport or . why are paying or repeats. why are we paying for it ? and glenda says answer for it? and glenda says answer the anonymous bbc big name. they are innocent until proven guilty and shouldn't be a witch and there shouldn't be a witch hunt. looks like they've hunt. the bbc looks like they've handled this matter badly, but i'm surprised. well, it's i'm not surprised. well, it's true. they did. name, true. i mean, they did. name, name cliff richard immediately , name cliff richard immediately, without actual proper without even any actual proper evidence , they got into a lot of evidence, they got into a lot of trouble so maybe trouble for that. so maybe that's why they're that's the reason why they're being careful this being a bit more careful this time. let's to this time. but let's move on to this one. nigel farage. now, you may have heard that he had his bank accounts and military accounts closed and now military companies, have been companies, banks have been accused of threatening the uk's security by refusing certain military companies accounts. people are warning that this could cause defence services to collapse, leaving britain exposed to foreign influence. nigel says that the european union is to blame for the closure of his bank account and ministers at plans to scrap ministers look at plans to scrap eu laws which let banks close accounts over political views.

so what do you think? has the government lost control government actually lost control of joining me of the banks? well, joining me to discuss, nigel to discuss, i've got nigel nelson and also ben habib . ben nelson and also ben habib. ben habib, going to come you. habib, i'm going to come to you. you're a banking you know a you're a banking man. you know a lot the world finance . lot about the world of finance. it's you don't. nigel it's not that you don't. nigel it's not that you don't. nigel it's not that you don't. nigel it's not your fault, though, is in— let's be honest. no ben, it? let's be honest. no ben, what you think this? what do you think of this? because just want to say there because i just want to say there was legislation, but we was some eu legislation, but we have in a way have interpreted it in a way thatis have interpreted it in a way that is different from the eu and actually made it worse for ourselves. >> well, all we do >> well, we all we often do that. we do that. we take >> well, we all we often do trbit we do that. we take >> well, we all we often do trbit of; do that. we take >> well, we all we often do trbit of legislation hat. we take >> well, we all we often do trbit of legislation and we take >> well, we all we often do trbit of legislation and we take >> well, we all we often do trbit of legislation and we gold a bit of legislation and we gold plate but i think there are plate it. but i think there are a of things to unpick a number of things to unpick here. first is the eu method here. the first is the eu method of doing business if you like, and in the european union, the presumption is that something shouldn't allowed unless it's shouldn't be allowed unless it's explicitly allowed under uk common law , everything is common law, everything is permissible unless it's expressly prohibited. and what's happened over 40 years of being a member of the eu is that we've moved towards the european union model . so you moved towards the european union model. so you have

moved towards the european union model . so you have these bizarre model. so you have these bizarre situations , owens, where you situations, owens, where you actually prove that you're worthy of having a bank account in the first place. they have kyc regulations. know your client , so you have to evidence client, so you have to evidence to the bank that you're worthy of having a bank account when you go for a job interview, whatever you have to evidence that you're worthy of getting the job beyond obviously having the job beyond obviously having the capability for the job and the capability for the job and the politically exposed person legislation comes across. it's not legislation by the way. it's advisory. but it comes across from the european union on that basis. and the principle being that if you're if you're holding office or you're, you know, you held high office in some kind of institution, you are more prone to bribery and therefore there should be more questions asked of you. but banks have taken this as you said, and they've elevated it to the point where they just decide that in the case of nigel farage, it would seem that nigel holds views that they don't like. he's been espousing them in a manner that they don't like. and by the way,

he hasn't actually held office for three years now. that's true. yeah they've true. yeah and they've just cancelled his bank accounts and he's not alone . and you know, so he's not alone. and you know, so what we've got to do now that we've left the eu is work on the principle that people are basically honest and innocent and don't need to prove their worthiness to have a bank account there's an account unless there's an express reason that the bank has for being suspicious of them . for being suspicious of them. and if they have that reason, then under the british regulatory framework , they regulatory framework, they should be obliged to disclose it. >> exactly. at least say why , >> exactly. at least say why, precisely why they're doing it. we're not going to do that. but the other side wasn't wasn't the particular the pep meant to apply to people who weren't in this country. so the initial legislation was meant to be people outside this country. i think we've applied it in. people outside this country. i thirit we've applied it in. people outside this country. i thirit canfe applied it in. people outside this country. i thirit can applylied it in. people outside this country. i thirit can apply tod it in. people outside this country. i thirit can apply to both,. people outside this country. i thirit can apply to both, but it >> it can apply to both, but it was initially designed for people were not in this people who were not in this country for foreign foreign country for for foreign foreign politicians. absolutely because otherwise deterrent . on otherwise it's a deterrent. on people into politics. why

people going into politics. why would you wish to go into politics, put your head in that noose if you like, and have that level of prejudice against you. and it's prejudice. the presumption that if you're presumption is that if you're holding office, you need to be questioned and that's awful, isn't it? it could apply to anyone. >> i mean, father fothergill , he >> i mean, father fothergill, he had his account closed because he made a comment about the whole lgbt situation and the fact that banks were getting involved that involved in that and politicising it. nigel yeah , i politicising it. nigel yeah, i mean, met the reverend mean, i met, met the reverend when he here and i liked him when he was here and i liked him very much. when he was here and i liked him veryeah.h. when he was here and i liked him veryeah. on this particular one, >> yeah. on this particular one, i think what we've here is i think what we've got here is separate issues. what has happened nigel absolutely happened to nigel is absolutely wrong, should not be wrong, that you should not be banned from having a bank account because of your political opinions . what is political opinions. what is happening to the defence industry sounds like banks being over zealous with their esg goals, which is the environmental , social goals, which is the environmental, social and governance things. >> yes . yes. >> yes. yes. »- >> yes. yes. >> yeah. so what's happened here is that they're saying we don't

much like defence and that's not a good enough reason to stop defence companies having a bank account . but can i just, can account. but can i just, can i just jump in there one second? >> that isn't it. >> that isn't it. >> can i just, i just wanted to say that's further evidence isn't it, nigel of the presumption being against the permission account permission to have an account and that's, that's the, and that's, that's, that's the, the really that just the point really that just because you're an arms, an arms trader doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't have an account. >> however , however, if on the >> however, however, if on the ethical that banks are ethical dimension that banks are adopting now if you went for a loan , say for a wind farm, the loan, say for a wind farm, the bank might be keener to give it to you than if an arms to you than if you're an arms company saying, i want a loan for missiles to sell to saudi arabia blow up kids in yemen arabia to blow up kids in yemen and the bank might then say, ethically, we don't. we don't fancy that. i think that that is a judgement for a reasonable judgement for a bank to make. >> well , it bank to make. >> well, it seems it does seem a bit of overreach, though, when they're actually determining whether they like politics whether they like your politics or they like you. or not or whether they like you. >> huge overreach. >> i think it's huge overreach. i the if the entity i think if the if the entity which is applying a loan or

which is applying for a loan or bank account is not breaking the law, the bank should be obliged to the facility. do do to provide the facility. do do you they should be an you think they should not be an ethical dimension this at ethical dimension to this at all? i think the ethical all? no. i think the ethical dimension gone far. dimension has gone too far. i agree you. we are agree with you. we are emasculating dimension. agree with you. we are em should ng dimension. agree with you. we are em should ng dir not? on. agree with you. we are em should ng dir not? where? >> should there not? where? >> should there not? where? >> , i don't think i don't >> well, i don't think i don't think it is for financial institutions to judge the integrity outside the remit of the law of those that do business with the bank . the law of those that do business with the bank. i the law of those that do business with the bank . i don't business with the bank. i don't think it's their job. >> well, also, who are they to talk? i mean, they lend money to all sorts of people and this is how get cancelled. how you get cancelled. >> how you get because >> this is how you get because i think they're just jumping on the bandwagon of cancellation. >> allowed. >> they shouldn't be allowed. but you think? get in but what do you think? get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet views. i'm nana tweet me at gb views. i'm nana akua. news on tv akua. this is gb news on tv onune akua. this is gb news on tv online digital radio on online and on digital radio on the way rishi sunak is set to welcome in the welcome biden to the uk in the wake of the president promising cluster bombs for ukraine. but has us too far? but has the us gone too far? but first, let's get your latest news headlines . news headlines. >> thank you very much, nana.

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banks the accounts banks closing the accounts of certain nigel certain individuals like nigel farage and companies for spunous farage and companies for spurious reasons. farage and companies for spurious reasons . and of spurious reasons. and lots of you been getting in touch you have been getting in touch with thoughts . sandra with your thoughts. sandra says banks close banks have no right to close your account telling you your account without telling you the the government the reason and the government should it. i agree. why are should stop it. i agree. why are the government not just stopping it says it immediately? obe stephen says if the government doesn't make it for every it a legal right for every honest a bank honest person to have a bank account, they are betraying everyone. well, it doesn't seem there's no news there. derek says the failure of banks to grant nigel farage a bank account is absolutely outrageous , undemocratic and obviously politically motivated. we need a newly formed, unbiased and democratic bank. yeah, it would be, wouldn't it? well, you would think that we could own the banks, which we do. we did own rbs time, didn't we? rbs for some time, didn't we? after whole subprime fiasco after that whole subprime fiasco . and i think, aren't they the ones own natwest, own ones who own natwest, who own coops? just seems very odd coops? so it just seems very odd that well, anyway, that now. well, anyway, hopefully government hopefully the government will pass especially pass legislation, especially since jeremy hunt also had an account is account closed. but this is a story that always captivates me when we're about the

when we're talking about the whole migration situation . slow whole migration situation. slow wi—fi, a private gp only visits twice a week and there's no hassle on. that's according to inspectors that that all makes the derwentside derwent side. i to say that right removal centre in durham inhumane. now the home office have been urged to reconsider whether it's suitable to house detainees in a remote area. so is it reasonable to accommodate people in these conditions as well? to discuss going head to head , nigel nelson going head to head, nigel nelson and ben habib? nigel and also ben habib? nigel nelson, is it inhumane, slow wifi ? there's no hairdresser. wifi? there's no hairdresser. >> no, but the wi—fi is there to power the ipods , which can be power the ipods, which can be used for translating purposes . used for translating purposes. so obviously there would be quite useful, but it's slow , quite useful, but it's slow, it's slow, it's there. >> but i have slow wi—fi in areas of my house. >> yes, but but the slowness means they can't actually use the the ipads to go and do the use the ipads to go and do do the translator they've given ipads well. do the translator they've given ipa�*they well. do the translator they've given ipa�*they give. do the translator they've given ipa�*they give an ipad as well. >> they give an ipad as well. >> they give an ipad as well. >> dear . so >> they give an ipad as well. >> dear. so wi—fi >> they give an ipad as well. >> dear . so wi—fi slow. >> oh, dear. so the wi—fi slow. they an ipad . they give an ipad. >> do you think these >> what do you think what these these they're not

these places are? they're not prisons. removal prisons. they are removal centres and get people centres to try and get people out of the country because it takes so long to remove people because really at because we're really bad at that. to stay that. they might have to stay there 18 months during that there for 18 months during that period. they ought to. we need to sure that there no to make sure that there is no unrest and the easiest way of doing that is just show a bit of dignity. so, yes, to have have dignity. so, yes, to have a have a wi—fi there. yes. have a wi—fi there. yes. to have hair salons. at a hotel last salons. i was at a hotel last week, a migrant hotel . and week, a migrant hotel. and they've just built a sort of a temporary school for the children . these are the kind of children. these are the kind of things that you need to actually be humane to attract more people to come to your country, humane to come to your country, humane to the people, to attract more people, to come to your country, attracting them. >> i i think it would do >> i mean, i think it would do if that i might if i'm if i thought that i might if i'm there in tent in france, which there in a tent in france, which is what you have when you're about to cross for yourself, something for myself. and i think i get slow wi—fi and think i could get slow wi—fi and a salon. i'll take it. a hair salon. i'll take it. >> free medical assistance and an as well. free medical an ipad as well. free medical assistance, dental care, cash in your pocket. no it's a huge

deterrent coming to the uk, isn't it? come to the uk. you're not going to get good wi—fi. no, i mean, the whole thing is just absolutely absurd. and we had the story the other day of illegal migrants staying in four star hotels in pimlico , you star hotels in pimlico, you know, where it costs a few million quid to buy a house. extraordinary. and we don't treat anywhere remotely treat our own anywhere remotely as as we treat these as generously as we treat these people who have illegally entered the uk. let's not forget that they haven't come uk, but they have illegally entered the uk asylum seekers. so we've had this debate . this debate. >> now we have. yes i know. >> now we have. yes i know. >> and they're coming from france, itself is france, which itself is beginning a bit a beginning to look a bit like a war torn country, but it's still a i think it's accepted that france is a civilised country. they're not coming syria or they're not coming from syria or from pakistan. they may have originated there, but they're coming from france. and we have to remember that along the way we've got a french problem and they've also paid a lot of money to do it. >> but we have to remember that it's not a french problem per

se. >> i mean, that suggests, oh, let's send them back to france. yes, absolutely. why yes, absolutely. well, but why not? yes, absolutely. well, but why not why not? >> why not? >> why not? >> sorry. >> sorry. >> let's turn that on its head. why should france not introduce a system by saying to each asylum seeker, where's your destination? oh it's the uk, we'll get boat and we'll take we'll get a boat and we'll take you over to the uk. >> that what they're kind >> isn't that what they're kind of exactly. of doing? that's exactly. >> that is what arguing >> that is what you're arguing to take them to france >> that is what you're arguing to taketheyn to france >> that is what you're arguing to takethey don't to france >> that is what you're arguing to takethey don't to fra there in where they don't belong there in the first place. >> how many? how many, how many would you see would be refugees? do you see leaving shores to go to leaving uk shores to go to france? none. why because the uk provides much better set up for them than france does. the whole deterrent thing isn't working because we are doing nothing to create a deterrence to come to the uk . as i've said many times the uk. as i've said many times on this show, the second you get into british territorial waters, you're with open arms you're welcomed with open arms and given a life jacket, a blanket , a and given a life jacket, a blanket, a cup of and given a life jacket, a blanket , a cup of tea, and given a life jacket, a blanket, a cup of tea, a bar of chocolate , and whisked off to chocolate, and whisked off to a four hotel up to durham . if four star hotel up to durham. if you're really unfortunate, but which, by the way, beautiful durham beautiful. been durham is beautiful. it's been stunning . it's been painted as

stunning. it's been painted as some kind of, you know , dystopia some kind of, you know, dystopia for these for these illegal migrants. well, it's remote, so it's not fair. i read i read that they had a ratio of 97 staff to 17. that's right. migrants in one. >> are more migrants on their way. i mean, in fairness, that was the idea. it wasn't just going going to remain that way. >> well, we know there are more migrants on way. them migrants on the way. we see them arriving every day. >> because. arriving every day. >> yes, because. arriving every day. >> yes, because we're not we're not doing to deal with not doing enough to deal with the root causes of the problem, the root causes of the problem, the root cause of the problem is that we are enforcing that we are not enforcing our internal legal rights and legal our international legal rights to these boats at the point to stop these boats at the point that they seek to enter our territorial waters and refuse to allow them entry. >> and that requires force. that requires border force to do what the name suggests, use a bit of force in our territorial waters to push these boats back into france. if these people of france. if these people have of their , of their own free their own, of their own free will made the decision to take that risky journey into our

water, they can equally turn their boats around and go straight back to france. >> why aren't we taking them to germany, which they may well have through, or belgium have passed through, or belgium or hungary or any other any other european they other european country? they may have france, france i >> -- >> that's france's problem. no, it's not the they come to it's not the reason they come to calais is to come to britain. >> i know. >> i know. >> so i got that. so from from france's point of view , it france's point of view, it becomes problem because becomes our problem because that's because they're trying to get our country. get into our country. >> okay, answer this then , >> okay, answer this then, nigel. we pay france £50 nigel. why did we pay france £50 million two years ago? 55 million? sorry, £50 million three years ago. £55 million two years ago. £63 million last yeah years ago. £63 million last year. and now we've promised to pay year. and now we've promised to pay half £1 billion to stop this from happening, pay half £1 billion to stop this from happening , to persuade from happening, to persuade france to deal with what is essentially our problem, what we should be doing. >> no, what we should be doing is trying to get returns, agreements back into into place. they did work back in . the in they did work back in. the in 2018, 2019, before we left the eu . eu. >> well the dublin but the

dublin, the dublin, the net number of illegal. >> yeah. 36. well done . >> yeah. 36. well done. >> yeah. 36. well done. >> well no actually 36 was sent back in 2018. the number of people who crossed by boat was 297.the people who crossed by boat was 297. the number of people we sent back to european countries under dublin was 125. 1 in 3 went back to europe. >> but nigel, over the four year penod >> but nigel, over the four year period before we brexited as nana absolutely correctly just said 36 net went back to europe . that was it. under the dublin agreement we would still be i've just given you still be over 125 went back one year. >> one year when the figures were much smaller. >> yeah. 125 isn't really very many at all. no but it's in many at all. no but it's 1 in 3 of the ones who came over. >> yeah, but this problem will not until we stop it in the not stop until we stop it in the channel and we've got to take a firm position on it. we've got to develop political will to develop some political will to develop some political will to defend our borders. this is an invasion . it is an invasion. an invasion. it is an invasion. there's no other way to describe it. and suella braverman is absolutely to do it. now absolutely right to do it. now she robust

she needs to take robust physical action in the channel. that's what we need. >> what about the cruise >> well, what about the cruise ship then? think ship notion then? i think i would be. why not cruise would be. well, why not cruise ships in the channel or to stop people from actually when they get to our borders, they get to across our borders, they go cruise ship go straight into cruise ship and then process from there. then we process them from there. what's that idea? what's wrong with that idea? cruise basically paid to get on whether put on a cruise whether you put them on a cruise ship you process on land. >> they can't they can't actually asylum under the actually claim asylum under the law until reach british law until they reach british territory. okay. so that's the first thing. they're in the first thing. so they're in the cruise ship. >> the answer then is processing their your processing idea is absolutely their your processing idea is absolutiquicker process people >> the quicker we process people on the cruise ship rather than them coming. >> actually have a set of >> so you actually have a set of cruise ships out not only >> so you actually have a set of cruise it|ips out not only >> so you actually have a set of cruise it act out not only >> so you actually have a set of cruise it act ast not only >> so you actually have a set of cruise it act as you not only >> so you actually have a set of cruise it act as you have )t only >> so you actually have a set of cruise it act as you have to )nly >> so you actually have a set of cruise it act as you have to be! would it act as you have to be physically british land to physically on british land to claim but not on the claim asylum, but not on the cruise ship. but if you're on a cruise ship. but if you're on a cruise ship, can you not have your asylum claim processed in cruise ship, can you not have you cruise m claim processed in cruise ship, can you not have you cruise ship?im processed in the cruise ship? >> you're on a british >> if you're on a british british ship, it will be under british ship, it will be under british law, you're on british waters. >> so if you have ships, >> so if you have cruise ships, i i would literally i know i would i would literally i know some people will say, oh, that's

really inhumane. but no, i wouldn't i'd be there ready to receive as come receive people as they come across. and i'd put them in the cruise ships. they wouldn't even come soil, as in come to on british soil, as in terra they'd stay terra firma. they'd stay on british waters, on the british waters, they'd be on the cruise process them quickly. >> don't if you'd have to >> i don't know if you'd have to change the law for that. i'm not sure. >> you'd have to change people quickly. and then if they are, if not meant be if they are not meant to be here, then you can certainly take on a ship or take them back on a ship or whatever it is from there to where they to well where they need to go. well i mean, know whether mean, i don't know whether legally would need legally you would you would need a the law to actually a change in the law to actually put an to an asylum put an to process an asylum seeker offshore the moment. put an to process an asylum seeker lit's�*nore the moment. put an to process an asylum seeker lit's still the moment. put an to process an asylum seeker lit's still british noment. >> but it's still british territory. >> i see why. >> i don't see why. >> i don't see why. >> mean, would be if >> i mean, this would be if they're a british ship, they they're on a british ship, they will law. will be subject to british law. >> that's if that's the >> well, if that's if that's the case, not against against case, i'm not against against anything that would actually make them quicker. make processing them quicker. >> be >> but would you not be complaining wifi might >> but would you not be conbeiining wifi might >> but would you not be conbe that] wifi might >> but would you not be conbe that good wifi might >> but would you not be con be that good wi ship ght >> but would you not be conbe that good wi ship ort not be that good on the ship or the not be big enough not be that good on the ship or th

>> so agree. the operator. >> cruise agree. the operator. >> cruise ships. the operator. >> cruise ships are maybe the way that's they way forward. that's what they say, is news on say, right? this is gb news on tv, digital radio. tv, online and on digital radio. moving this rishi moving on to this one, rishi sunak the of sunak has condemned the use of cluster following cluster bombs following joe biden's commitment to send the munitions to ukraine. now this comes minister will comes as the prime minister will be president to be welcoming the us president to the notes the the uk to compare notes on the war now many allies war effort. now many nato allies prohibit the use of cluster bombs for reason. but bombs and for good reason. but ukraine weapons would bombs and for good reason. but ukraisave weapons would bombs and for good reason. but ukraisave liveszapons would bombs and for good reason. but ukraisave lives ofons would bombs and for good reason. but ukraisave lives of ukrainian help save the lives of ukrainian soldiers. us gone too soldiers. does the us gone too far? going far? should we be going along with one? nigel cluster with this one? nigel cluster bombs bit. bombs a bit. >> really uncomfortable with >> i'm really uncomfortable with this we're signatory to a this that we're signatory to a ban by 123 countries for cluster bombs. so we shouldn't even be manufacturing them . so on that manufacturing them. so on that basis, then we shouldn't have any give to ukraine in the any to give to ukraine in the first place. i can understand the difficulty. president biden's in because the ukrainians president zelenskyy himself for them. he's himself asked for them. he's asked for them. and the people who hurt by them will be who will be hurt by them will be ukrainian citizens. there when they don't go off and suddenly someone steps on them and they do go off off at some stage do go off go off at some stage in the future. i just that in the future. i just think that that probably far. that is probably going too far. i problems that i appreciate the problems that zelenskyy is facing with the

arms needs is what we need to arms he needs is what we need to do is redouble our efforts to give him the arms that he wants. but something that is actually a bit more humane than a cluster bomb. >> what's more humane than a cluster bomb? a nuclear bomb ? cluster bomb? a nuclear bomb? what's humane? none of it's humane. >> none of it's humane. but a cruise missile is probably inhumane. is a cruise well, any humane thing, any weapon that kills people is inhumane. but cluster bombs, because they're particularly cruel and particularly cruel and particularly dangerous to civilian arms, are banned. a cruise missile is not, for instance. >> well, that's all right, then. zelenskyy is asking for it, though. that's what he's asking for. well , i think it's completely >> well, i think it's completely wrong we would trade our wrong that we would trade our principles in order to prosecute this proxy war that's going on between the us and the uk on one side through ukraine against russia in in ukrainian territory . and i think it says volumes that biden is prepared to provide cluster bombs. you know, this is how this is. >> he's asked for them, though, and he's providing what's being

asked. as nigel asked. but it is as nigel rightly says, it is largely citizens who get killed by these bombs. >> and i think it says a it says a number of things on the geopolitical front. the most prominent of which is that that spnng prominent of which is that that spring offensive that the ukrainians were going to mount against russia never emerged. and russia seems to be doing better than we're being told. otherwise you wouldn't contemplate weapons like this. we're contemplating these weapons because actually the way the war is being fought by zelenskyy, supported by the us and the uk at the moment is not not succeeding. and we've got to be very careful. >> aren't the russians also using cluster bombs anyway? they've used them as well. use them. >> i mean they use. but two wrongs don't make a right. >> but i suppose >> well yeah, but i suppose he wants equalise one side wants to equalise what one side is using, there'll be wants to equalise what one side is uukrainians there'll be wants to equalise what one side is uukrainians trused be wants to equalise what one side is uukrainians trused them the ukrainians have used them too in fairness, but they've run out of them. >> it's the ukrainian >> but it's the ukrainian citizens killed but citizens who get killed and but they've all been them. they've all been using them. >> that ship >> so he's obviously that ship has concerned has sailed. has been concerned about has sailed. has been concerned aboyeah but i just don't see how >> yeah but i just don't see how if someone's using phosphorus

bombs napalm that justifies bombs or napalm that justifies the other side. well they shouldn't be allowed wouldn't they. i just just finish they. i just want to just finish on geopolitical point which on the geopolitical point which is important. russia is really important. if russia isn't losing as we keep isn't losing this war as we keep getting told, if russia is able to hold its position and then come out from the south eastern regions of ukraine back into ukraine, we need to be very, very careful if this provision what's what's what is worry and fear for us? well, i think we could lose the war. you know, it says it says , i think one of the says it says, i think one of the messages not getting across with the provision of these cluster bombs is the weapons weaponry that we were using. isn't succeeding. says to me russia is making progress in its war aims and we need to make sure we don't end up with a resurgent russia coming through ukraine. >> forgotten then, if that's what you're saying, because we've had that situation where obviously russians seem to be turning sort turning on russians. he was sort of exiled to belarus, but i don't know whether he's actually gone that surely sign of gone. that is surely a sign of weakness to

weakness with regard to the russian can't be. russian army. that can't be. i don't doubt a second that don't doubt for a second that they've all sorts schisms they've got all sorts of schisms and divisions in the russian setup but russia going setup, but russia is not going to give up on this war. >> russia is going keep >> russia is going to keep fighting this war inhumanely and increasingly inhumanely if necessary. >> so what's the problem with the cluster bombs then, if that's the mean, nigel, that's the case? i mean, nigel, as they need them as nigel said, if they need them and they're to carry on and they're going to carry on fighting whether and they're going to carry on figrhumane whether and they're going to carry on figrhumane or whether and they're going to carry on figrhumane or you're whether and they're going to carry on figrhumane or you're turningar it's humane or you're turning this vietnam, is this into vietnam, this is turning a vietnam. turning into a vietnam. >> and that's where we >> and that's not where we should be. >> mean, certainly britain >> i mean, certainly britain shouldn't this. >> i mean, certainly britain shotldn't this. >> i mean, certainly britain shotl think this. >> i mean, certainly britain shotl think rishi this. >> i mean, certainly britain shotl think rishi sunak this. >> i mean, certainly britain shotl think rishi sunak tright and i think rishi sunak is right to with to have a conversation with president biden when he arrives tomorrow and say, look, we are not in favour of what you're doing. >> well, that's you know, that's interesting you say that, but ultimately , then what your ultimately, then what is your suggestion then, nigel? well, we've got to then what? >> but, you know, none of us are aware country what our aware in this country what our war is. the uk's aim in this war aim is. the uk's aim in this war. what is it? is it to push russia completely out of ukraine? if that's the aim, then say so. because we're not explicit on it. actually, if explicit on it. and actually, if we funding this war,

we are funding this war, zelenskyy his aim is, and zelenskyy what his aim is, and i think is to capture or keep think that is to capture or keep all ukrainian territories. >> what is what what is >> but what is what is what is in british interest here? in the british interest here? >> is it in our interest to take the war to that nth level? i'd like to i think the british like to i think we, the british people, know what the people, need to know what the british position is in ukraine. >> is it in our interest then to carry you've got carry on with this? you've got about 20s on it. >> is. but the important >> yes, it is. but the important thing the war has to be thing is the war has to be restricted to ukraine and not go across borders where we will be involved in a war with russia. well, keep your thoughts coming. >> this news on tv, online >> this is gb news on tv, online and nana akua. and on digital radio, nana akua. still come, nana's vagina still to come, nana's vagina monologue because according to reports, health professionals are urged to call vaginas bonus holes. yes, you heard it here first. that is on the way. but first, it's time to get your weather . weather. >> the temperatures rising . >> the temperatures rising. boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your

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the midlands, north—west england to elsewhere. we'll see a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers and the best of the sunshine towards the south—east. could see highs south—east. we could see highs around 24 or 25 celsius elsewhere . generally the high elsewhere. generally the high teens to low 20s that area of rain across north wales, northern england continues to push further north as we head through the evening and then further spells of rain push into southern parts of the uk as we move into the early hours. this could be heavy at times . so could be heavy at times. so overnight of cloud around overnight a lot of cloud around outbreaks of rain and that will keep temperatures generally keep temperatures up generally a little higher, 14 to 17 degrees across much of the country . so across much of the country. so it means a cloudy, wet start for many tuesday morning. heavy showers already, but it should brighten up as we move through the morning, into the afternoon . but that will trigger a few heavy showers, over the heavy showers, too, over the next few days. it remains unsettled as that low pressure stays in charge , further showers stays in charge, further showers and longer spells of than and longer spells of rain than temperatures average . temperatures around average. >> the temperatures rising . >> the temperatures rising. boxed solar proud sponsors of

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theirs. course it's theirs. and of course it's yours. debating, yours. we'll be debating, discussing , and at times we will discussing, and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. and also political commentator amy nicole turner. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines . get your latest news headlines. >> thank you very much, nana. i'm rory smith in the gb news room. the bbc has suspended the male presenter accused of paying a teenager ten of thousands of pounds for explicit images. that's after it emerged the young person's mother told the sun she saw a photo of the man in his underwear on her child's phone.the in his underwear on her child's phone. the director general , tim phone. the director general, tim davie, has confirmed the bbc was aware of a complaint made in may andifs aware of a complaint made in may and it's been investigated eating the case ever since. in a statement, he also condemned the unsub substantiated rumours being made on the internet about some of the corporations

presenting talent . but more than presenting talent. but more than a thousand people have crossed the channel on small boats over the channel on small boats over the past two days. the home office says over 600 people were intercepted on friday and almost 400 made the journey yesterday . 400 made the journey yesterday. well, despite storm warnings, conditions are calm and gb news understands more than 200 people have already been interviewed , have already been interviewed, opted this morning. it brings this year's total to 12,700. the home office says the number of people risking their lives is unacceptable . britain is unacceptable. britain is preparing to host the us president , who preparing to host the us president, who is due to preparing to host the us president , who is due to arrive president, who is due to arrive this evening . joe biden boarded this evening. joe biden boarded air force one in delaware and is now on his way to stansted airport . well, tomorrow he will airport. well, tomorrow he will meet the king at windsor castle before holding talks with the prime minister at downing street. he's expected to raise concerns about brexit and america's decision to send cluster munitions to ukraine.

well joe biden's visit comes ahead of the nato summit in lithuania, where the prime minister will urge allies to bolster their defence spending . bolster their defence spending. speaking in vilnius on tuesday , speaking in vilnius on tuesday, rishi sunak is expected to say that we're seeing unprecedented security challenges. the uk remains one of the few nato members meeting the alliance's requirement to spend at least 2% of national income on defence, more than 700 firearms have been seized in the uk by the national crime agency. forces have been working with police in spain to stop guns, which can be easily converted from entering the uk . converted from entering the uk. in 11 cases, firearms were sent to people with mental health issues and seven involved people with extremist views. the nca says 74 people have been arrested , resulting in 50 arrested, resulting in 50 convictions over the past five years. just stop. oil has denied

any involvement in the stunt at the former chancellor's wedding yesterday, the group posted a video of a woman throwing orange confetti at george osborne and his wife, thea rogers . but it's his wife, thea rogers. but it's now saying it was not responsible. just stop . oil, responsible. just stop. oil, however, applauded the move , however, applauded the move, which generated publicity for its cause . the chancellor is set its cause. the chancellor is set to outline so—called evolutionary pension reforms to boost economic growth. jeremy hunt plans to make changes to pension funds , encouraging pension funds, encouraging investors to support fast growing businesses. well in a speech tomorrow, he's expected to say the changes will be gradual , not to say the changes will be gradual, not drastic. the government says the aim is to help savers , pension schemes and help savers, pension schemes and the uk to consider turns have been raised about the thousands of displaced ukrainians who are still in temporary accommodation in scotland. the liberal democrats say more than 3000 ukrainians are still in hotels

and around 700 are onboard the ms victoria cruise ship. the party says progress has been slow and has criticised the lack of resources , as the government of resources, as the government says it's working on longer term housing and the met office is warning of more heavy showers and thunderstorms . it's after and thunderstorms. it's after rain and storms disrupted major sporting events such as wimbledon and the ashes yesterday. the met office is predicting prolonged heavy rain in scotland, while northern ireland faces strong winds, hail and even potential flooding. heavy showers are also expected to hit wales, the midlands and south—west england . this is gb south—west england. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to nana . to nana. >> and thank you, rory. just give you a quick update on that breaking news. this is gb news,

by the way. if you've just tuned in, i'm nana akua. it's fast approaching. six minutes after 4:00, we brought news 4:00, we brought you the news in the that the bbc have the last hour that the bbc have confirmed that the unnamed male presenter . presenter has been suspended. the presenter is alleged to have paid thousands a paid thousands of pounds to a teenagerin paid thousands of pounds to a teenager in exchange for explicit sexual images. so let's quickly cross over to broadcasting house and get the latest from our political reporter, olivia hartley. olivia so can you give us an update now we know with regard to the fact that the bbc presenter has been suspended . suspended. >> yes , yes. >> yes, yes. »- >> yes, yes. >> the bbc has finally suspended the presenter, but it feels today very much as though the spotlight is now on the bbc. why didn't it act sooner? these allegations will raised in the middle of may with two months on from that now and in all this time up until yesterday , the time up until yesterday, the presenter in question has been on air. now the bbc says that it has processes to deal with allegations of this kind . and allegations of this kind. and originally when the complaint was made, it simply didn't have

enough information to progress. it says that new information has come to light in the last few days and that is why the presenter has now been suspended . ed but the mother, first . ed but the mother, who first made , the mother made the complaint, the mother of the alleged victim , um, says of the alleged victim, um, says that she came forward to months ago and two days later she saw the presenter in question on air. and she says that after she had she had spoken to the bbc with her proper form, she, she then discovered that the presenter in question had sent more money to her child, suggesting to her that the bbc hadnt suggesting to her that the bbc hadn't raised the issue with its employee . so now we're hearing employee. so now we're hearing lots of politicians weigh in from all sides of the political spectrum . we heard shadow spectrum. we heard shadow chancellor rachel reeves this morning saying it was a disgrace and that the process just simply wasn't quick enough. priti patel , former home secretary and darling of the tory right, said that broadcasting gods are given too much leeway and the bbc taxpayer funded organisation has become a nameless and faceless

aukus ization. now that's pretty strong stuff when you're hearing it both from labour and from the conservatives. and of course today there's been a meeting between lucy frazer, the culture secretary, davie , the secretary, and tim davie, the director general the bbc. the director general of the bbc. the presenter has now been suspended, but will that simply be too little, too late? and we still, of course, don't know who it is. >> well, olivia , thank you for >> well, olivia, thank you for that. and we'll keep you updated with all of that. that's olivia utley. she's our gb news political reporter. well, in a note sent to the bbc staff, the bbc's director general, tim davie, confirmed the suspension and on to add by law, and went on to add by law, individuals are entitled to a reasonable expectation of privacy , which is making this privacy, which is making this situation more complex. i also want to be very clear that i am wholly condemning the unsubstantiated rumours being made on the internet about some of our presenting talent . we are of our presenting talent. we are in contact with the family referenced in the media reports and i want to assure you that we are working rapidly to establish the and to ensure that the facts and to ensure that these matters handled fairly

these matters are handled fairly and including by and with care, including by external authorities, where appropriate . right. so it's appropriate. right. so it's coming up to nine minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . i like to call this nana akua. i like to call this nana's vagina monologue . oh, my nana's vagina monologue. oh, my bonus hole . you think i'm joking bonus hole. you think i'm joking ? listen, i'm deadly serious. it's been called many things in the past, but never that bonus hole is actually the latest euphemism for a vagina. and this time, the brilliant mind that came up with it in their section of the website , which was called of the website, which was called language to use when supporting trans men and or non—binary people, was the cancer charity jo's cervical cancer trust. so let's not worry about offending women who are comfortable in their own skin , which is the their own skin, which is the majority. let's make sure that we don't offend some very confused people. the charity went further and also suggested

front hole as another acceptable term. so alongside chest feeder people who menstruate and the inclusion of people who identify as women in the dictionary definition of women, we biological women, which i find annoying having to include the term biological as it may suggest. i have submitted to the nofion suggest. i have submitted to the notion that there is any other kind actual woman now have to kind of actual woman now have to contend with new phrases for the vagina to disassociate it from biological sex. so those who want to deny reality can deny it . of all the dehumanising nonsense that we women have to put up with, this one takes the biscuit . how ridiculous. what's biscuit. how ridiculous. what's wrong with just calling it a vagina ? must we all be ashamed vagina? must we all be ashamed of the truth? kelly keane, a prominent campaigner for women's rights and founder for standing for women, said the whole thing is loathsome , but bonus hole and is loathsome, but bonus hole and front hole are so misogynistic . front hole are so misogynistic. if a woman is so triggered by the word vagina, i should

imagine she needs psychiatric help rather than the world bent her never ending list of irrational demands. i agree . and irrational demands. i agree. and we women and our vaginas go through a lot like menstruation and childbirth. let's see whether the bonus hole brings a boy or a girl or something else. do bindel wrote in the daily mail today . as a feminist mail today. as a feminist campaigner, i am appalled. i've spent time over the decades trying to raise awareness among women about our bodies . i've women about our bodies. i've encouraged women to unlearn the shame associated with our biology . so the idea that we biology. so the idea that we should stop referring to the vagina by its name is grossly offensive. he year here. julie dave jackson from the lgb alliance also chipped in. discuss putting language like this which intentionally dehumanises women must be rejected by all reasonable people. the fact is women have vaginas . it's appalling that vaginas. it's appalling that anyone would think that the reality is offensive . dave and reality is offensive. dave and if you think that it's

offensive, then that's your problem . exactly. it shouldn't problem. exactly. it shouldn't be my problem. this is not a anti—trans issue. it's none of my business what someone identifies as. that's up to them, each to their own . the them, each to their own. the problem i have with this is why must my language be diminished, eroded beyond all recognition? why is it always women who lose out? i note that there is no attempt to rename the penis. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should the reveal the asking should the bbc reveal the identity x ? the bbc identity of presenter x? the bbc have confirmed that the unnamed male presenter who has been accused teenager accused of paying a teenager tens of of pounds for tens of thousands of pounds for explicit images, has been suspended . but is it in the suspended. but is it in the pubuc suspended. but is it in the public interest to know who this well is ? then stay well known figure is? then stay tuned for 50th worldview. i'll

be heading to moscow. speaking to russian journalist alexei v to russian journalist alexei v to get all the latest. also on the us president joe biden's decision to send controversial weapons to ukraine. we'll head over to paul duddridge for the politics people and politics people podcast. and then this week's then at five, it's this week's outside. i'll be joined by a outside. now i'll be joined by a very special mystery guest who is to have had is known to have had a hairdressing empire . he's also a hairdressing empire. he's also a stylist to the stars . can anyone stylist to the stars. can anyone guess who that might be? well, that's on the way in the next houn that's on the way in the next hour, what you hour, as ever. tell me what you think we're think on everything we're discussing. views gb discussing. email gb views gb news me at . gb news .com or tweet me at. gb news. right. let's get started . news. right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel. brought forecaster and journalist danny kelly and also political commentator amy nicole turner . she's turner for one day turner. she's turner for one day only but so welcome aboard, amy. it's nice to see you. it's very nice to see you. i love your outfit as well. we sort of match a bit, don't we? >> we're feeling bright today. >> we're feeling bright today. >> bright >> yes, we're feeling bright apart the apart from the thing on the end. oh, love amy.

oh, danny, we love you, amy. >> this. i'm her >> get used to this. i'm her punching i quite punching bag, which i quite enjoy, actually. i don't mind that. >> it's really lovely. we love that. >> i'daddy. y lovely. we love that. >> i'daddy. y love .y. we love that. >> i'daddy. y love .y. wetoo. e you, daddy. i love you, too. >> there's a lot of you to love, right let's so what right there. amy. let's so what do you think of this, then? bonus on, nana saying bonus hole. come on, nana saying bonus hole does not erase your vagina . vagina. >> we can say both. and this has taken completely out of context because the source of this, it was for trans men. trans men disproportionately do not go for cervical smears. so it was in a pamphlet aimed at trans men. and this is just a little bit of education about the latest slang and apparently in the trans community, it's sometimes called a bonus hole. we have had plenty of names ourselves over the years. >> oh, come on, come on. >> we've only just started saying vagina. how many names foof down stairs, bits tuppence front bottom, bonus hole. >> i don't think so. >> i don't think so. >> if only i knew i was to compile a list of slang for vagina, i'd be more prepared. bonus shoulders. the sort of

thing that, you know, teenage lads would say, you know, on the way from school. i think way home from school. i think it's remarkable statement. obviously disrespectful. obviously i'm disrespectful. well, i'm not woman, so well, i'm not a woman, so i can't i can't feel can't be i can't feel disrespected i don't have disrespected by it. i don't have a personal investment in the story. can a personal investment in the story. of can a personal investment in the story. of is can a personal investment in the story. of is a can a personal investment in the story. of is a bloke can a personal investment in the story. of is a bloke looking into think of is a bloke looking into all of this madness is that it's pure . pure lunacy. >> weren't the audience >> see, we weren't the audience for this pamphlet, but that's irrelevant . irrelevant. >> of movement, >> part of this movement, though, little tiny bit. though, is the little tiny bit. it's little part the it's a little part of the movement that alienates, i'd say, over 95% women. again say, over 95% of women. again i'm not a woman, so i can't feel alienated personally by it. but i know feels alienated. my i know nana feels alienated. my mother, who's in her 80s, she feels alienated by it too. and i haven't spoken at length to every woman i know, would every woman i know, but i would suggest that all getting suggest that they're all getting fed it. i think in the fed up with it. i think in the space of cervical screening, fed up with it. i think in the space of that cal screening, fed up with it. i think in the space of that has;creening, fed up with it. i think in the space of that has;creen alienated someone that has been alienated is and all this is, is a trans man and all this is, is a trans man and all this is, is to include trans men in the conversation because as i've said already, they need cervical smears, too. >> yeah, but this is to just everybody else. >> it's not. there's plenty of information out for us and information out there for us and our our you know, what do we want to call them? >> but i'm talking about the

erosion language, the erosion of the language, the actual that associates. actual language that associates. >> just another one. >> it's just adding another one. but about the but amy, i'm talking about the disassociation of the actual vagina the fact that it's a vagina with the fact that it's a sexual thing, which relates to being a woman. >> and that is the problem. i think the reason why these people are using kind people are using this kind of terminology disassociate terminology is to disassociate the biology the reality from the biology that they are women. and i think it's part of the movement, it's all part of the movement, the trans movement to do that. and that is the issue here. >> is a a >> but a trans man is not a a trans would feel dysphoric trans man would feel dysphoric calling what is their vagina . calling what is their vagina. >> so isn't it within the interests of them, their health, their well—being, that if they want to use a slang term, they can just as we can own our bodies and call our bodies whatever i call my boobs . john whatever i call my boobs. john and edward, absolutely up to and edward, i'm absolutely up to me , trans a biological woman. >> that is a woman. i mean, even if you like, you can say that you are a woman. you want be you are a woman. you want to be called and everything, called a woman and everything, but cannot take but you cannot you cannot take away of the away the biology of the situation. well, that's they situation. well, that's why they have a bonus hole, because they are don't live as they

are they don't live as they don't live well. how do you live as woman? does amy how as a woman? how does amy how does woman live? would does a woman live? how would you define says, okay, define if somebody says, okay, i want as woman ? how want to live as a woman? how does woman live gender is does a woman live gender is something that, you know, a child knows their gender and sometimes that isn't exactly what is assigned . what is assigned. >> but that's not the point. >> but that's not the point. >> have to respect that. >> you have to respect that. >> you have to respect that. >> that's something that's >> and that's something that's recognised british recognised by the british medical , the royal medical association, the royal college psychiatry. college of psychiatry. >> all very college of psychiatry. >> what all very college of psychiatry. >> what is all very college of psychiatry. >> what is a all very college of psychiatry. >> what is a woman ll very college of psychiatry. >> what is a woman then? it's well. what is a woman then? it's not for me to tell someone whether they're a woman or a man. what based their gender? >> what is a woman? >> what is a woman? >> something that's beyond, >> it's something that's beyond, in rare in some cases, in some rare cases. your bits say, which cases. what your bits say, which is what? >> how do they know they're a woman if they can't define it? what adult female, what is a woman? adult female, adult, female. >> i danny, you're not getting a look in here. well well, if you're that, saying you're saying that, i'm saying great. a woman identifying great. but a woman identifying as it. >> what is it? >> what is it? >> would how do know >> i would say, how do you know you're you know you're straight? how do you know you're straight? how do you know you're know you're gay? how do you know you're gay? how do you know you're you know you're you're anything? you know you're know you're gay. >> attracted the >> if you're attracted to the same you. and there we same sex as you. and there we come biology. so if come back to biology. so if i was i'd attracted

was gay, i'd be attracted to a woman. woman woman. but what is a woman if it's not? >> you're a woman. >> you're a woman. >> know i'm a woman >> well, i know i'm a woman because i'm adult. an because i'm an adult. i'm an aduu because i'm an adult. i'm an adlso you're saying they're not >> so you're saying they're not aduu >> so you're saying they're not adult which are . adult females, which they are. >> trans man >> i'm saying that trans man knows they man knows that they are a man as much you know, you're a woman. >> no, i know i'm a woman because i'm an adult female nana. >> no, she's a woman. she mentioned in mentioned a bonus hole in the monologue. about monologue. she knows all about it. she doesn't have a >> she knows she doesn't have a bonus >> she knows she doesn't have a borand have a bonus hole. >> i don't know what that is. >> i don't know what that is. >> bonus is some sort of >> a bonus hole is some sort of thing. >> it is a bonus hole, apparently. >> now, look again, as bloke >> now, look again, as a bloke who trans how do you who does trans man, how do you know great thing about who does trans man, how do you kno late great thing about who does trans man, how do you kno late jerry great thing about who does trans man, how do you kno late jerry springer�*ning about who does trans man, how do you kno late jerry springer was?|bout the late jerry springer was? that introduced poly that he introduced poly polygraphs, detectors? polygraphs, lie detectors? yes. yes. love people who yes. and i would love people who maintained a man can be a maintained that a man can be a woman and a woman be a man. woman and a woman can be a man. i they're being i don't think they're being genuine they're genuine. i think they're just talk game . talk a great game. >> i can absolutely assure you that british medical association. >> no, i'm about >> no, but i'm talking about individuals bodies. individuals, not bodies. i'm talking i'm talking about. okay, i'm not going liar because going to call you a liar because you're a liar. but i would you're not a liar. but i would love if we if we love to know if we if we if we recognise , recognise globally, internationally by science about . sorry, because because you're an incredibly compassionate

individual that through individual that seeps through every every in your every every bonus hole in your body. every every bonus hole in your body . but i'd every every bonus hole in your body. but i'd love just to strap you up and ask you a direct question. can a man be a woman and can a woman be a man? i'm just to see if the polygraph says yes, here, here. >> you just see what i mean? because i don't i think they know that they're not telling the see, i find that the truth. see, i find that incredibly can't incredibly baffling. i can't believe it such a believe you see it in such a binary this is gb news on tv onune binary this is gb news on tv online and digital radio. >> this week's >> still to come, this week's outside, mystery outside, my special mystery guest is king guest is the king of hairdressing empire that he hairdressing an empire that he had. he opened his first salon with hairdresser john with celebrity hairdresser john frieda. guesses? first, frieda. any guesses? first, let's get an update with your weather . weather. >> that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers . proud sponsors of boxed boilers. proud sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello there and greg dewhurst. and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast , where further showers and longer spells of rain over the next few days. there will be some sunshine though, but for many of it will feel fresher.

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board. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. it's time now for our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should the bbc reveal identity of presenter reveal the identity of presenter x? bbc have confirmed that x? the bbc have confirmed that the unnamed male presenter who has been accused of paying a teenager tens of thousands of pounds for explicit images , has pounds for explicit images, has been suspended. now this comes as urgent talks have taken place today. as urgent talks have taken place today . that's between today. that's between the culture and the bbc culture secretary and the bbc director—general, which is tim davie is the ongoing scandal threatens to consume the corporate nation. and according to reports in the sun, the mother of the teenager said that she was shocked after being shown screenshots the video shown screenshots of the video chat her child and the chat between her child and the presenter in question. so for the great british debate, this houn the great british debate, this hour, should the bbc hour, i'm asking should the bbc reveal identity of presenter reveal the identity of presenter x? now by michael x? i'm joined now by michael cole. he's the bbc royal cole. he's the former bbc royal correspondent. evans, correspondent. suzanne evans, political commentator. nigel nelson, senior news political nelson, senior gb news political commentator, and ben habib, former party mep. well, former brexit party mep. well, i'm going to start immediately with you, michael cole. you were a royal a former bbc royal correspondent. view correspondent. what's your view on firstly, the way that it

seems they're keeping something quiet, they don't have quiet, obviously they don't have the details, but think the details, but do you think they're thing ? they're doing the right thing? >> bbc cannot name anybody without running the very real risk of prejudicing any future prosecution and legal case that may arise under the protection of children act of 1978. it several felonies have been committed here, of course, an accusation is not proof , and accusation is not proof, and there has to be due process. but it would be wrong completely wrong for any names to be mentioned . you can see from tim mentioned. you can see from tim davies stage statement. he sounds very worried the bbc will be sucking its teeth and wondering what's going on. and obviously they've got in the back of their minds the names of jemmy savile and rolf harris. they want to do things right, but the wrong thing now would be

to name anybody that would be down to the crown prosecution service . the police. what they service. the police. what they may be doing is talking to the person concerned and seeing what way ahead there is. >> well, of course, michael, there's no suggestion that this is anything similar to any of those that you've just mentioned. so and so we must be careful not to conflate anything with regard to that . let's go to with regard to that. let's go to suzanne evans. she's a political commentator suzanne. >> yes , i absolutely agree with >> yes, i absolutely agree with michael. the bbc can't and shouldn't name this person. i'm finding i'm getting increasingly concerned in this day and age that the principle, the very , that the principle, the very, very strong and vital principle of innocent until proven guilty is being gradually eroded away as more and more people are being convicted before they even go anywhere near a police cell. in the court of public opinion . in the court of public opinion. this is only an allegation . by this is only an allegation. by all accounts, the allegation have been made by someone who seems to have various issues and

problems. i think we have a situation here where it's only an allegation at this stage until the police have got involved, until anyone is arrested and charged, then i think that that person as difficult as it might be for some people to stomach, but nevertheless has the right to privacy. it's an allegation we cannot have a situation where people in the public eye are and indeed anybody can be outed and named and shamed for the basis of a of a one story that's been run in a newspaper that that doesn't appear to be any police interest in or in that basis evidence for at the moment. >> well, it's interesting. >> well, it's interesting. >> you say very dangerous situation here. >> well , it's situation here. >> well, it's interesting. you mentioned the ben habib. mentioned the police, ben habib. you that? you had thoughts on that? >> so i mean, i it's not >> yeah. so i mean, i it's not going to be much of debate going to be much of a debate because michael and because i agree with michael and suzanne the principle of suzanne on the principle of innocent till proven guilty and not to do anything that prejudices know, any prejudices you know, any unfolding investigation . but it unfolding investigation. but it is interesting to me that the mother, you know , her first port mother, you know, her first port of call, it would seem, would be

to the press as opposed to to go to the press as opposed to the police. if i had a child who had subjected to the kind had been subjected to the kind of treatment alleges is of treatment that she alleges is the first place i would go is make a criminal complaint. and only if the police weren't doing their job would only if the police weren't doing theirjob would i feel the their job would i feel the necessity, to, you know, necessity, perhaps to, you know, blow the thing out of the water by going to the media. but i think we've got to be very careful not to put people on trial , you know, careful not to put people on trial, you know, through the media and we have seen cases where that's gone disastrously wrong. you know, i think wrong. and you know, i think we've just got to have this principle of innocent until proven guilty firmly our proven guilty firmly in our minds. proven guilty firmly in our mirwell, saw what happened >> well, we saw what happened with the whole cliff richard incident. with the whole cliff richard inciyeah. i mean, hour ago i'd >> yeah. i mean, an hour ago i'd have agreed with all three of you. that an you. i think that when an allegation made that it stays allegation is made that it stays as allegation . and certainly as an allegation. and certainly whoever the alleged perpetrator is should not be named. now, the bbc have taken action and suspense added him. i feel rather differently that on that bafis rather differently that on that basis then we're all going to know the name anyway because

it'll become obvious as if he's been taken off air who it is. so on the basis of that, i think yes , now is the time to actually yes, now is the time to actually name him . name him. >> but what about the point that michael made that it could actually prejudice some sort of claim or some sort of case further ahead? >> well, i mean, the prejudice issue applies to everything. even if the police were involved , do you then name at arrest? do you you name on charge or do you do you name on charge or do you do you name on charge or do you only name on conviction? one of your arguments has been that people actually people people are actually named. so if there are other victims , they feel they can come victims, they feel they can come forward . forward. >> i understand you shouldn't name until you're charged. i think until the point of charging. i think you're obliged to keep it. >> you can you can be named if you're arrested, but you can. i think the issue here is that is that mistakes are made. somebody has been suspended on the basis of an allegation and 100% we've ben, my first thought on reading this story was why has the mother gone to the press and not

gone to the police? that is a shocking dereliction. i would say, of your duty as a parent. and if you know and she was talking about about how i don't want to push the blame onto her, by the way, was talking by the way, but she was talking about how she wants this man to stop money her stop sending money so that her husband , her son, gets off crack husband, her son, gets off crack cocaine . well, a ridiculous. cocaine. well, a ridiculous. >> i'm going to stop you there, susan, because we don't we don't know we know know the actual we don't know the gender child. the gender of the child. actually involved. thank you very michael cole, former very much, michael cole, former bbc correspondent . suzanne bbc royal correspondent. suzanne evans, commentator evans, political commentator nigel gb news, senior nigel nelson gb news, senior political , and ben political commentator, and ben habib, brexit party mep . habib, former brexit party mep. thank you so much. well the bbc spokesperson said on friday we treat any allegations very seriously and we have processes in place to proactively deal with them as part of that. if we receive information that requires further investigation receive information that rerexamination' investigation receive information that rerexamination , nvestigation receive information that rerexamination , then:igation receive information that rerexamination , then we tion or examination, then we will take do this . now that take steps to do this. now that includes activities actively attempting to speak those who attempting to speak to those who have contacted us in order to seek further and seek further detail and understanding the situation. understanding of the situation. if we get no reply to attempts

or receive no further contact, that can limit our ability to progress things . it does not progress things. it does not mean our enquiries stop. if at any point new information comes to light or is proved, including via newspapers, this will be acted upon appropriately in line with the internal processes. right well, you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. after the break, we will continue with the great british after the break, we will continu i'm th the great british after the break, we will continu i'm th the ishould'itish after the break, we will continu i'm th the ishould'itisibbc debate i'm asking should the bbc reveal presenter reveal the identity of presenter x? hear thoughts of x? you'll hear the thoughts of my but first, let's get my panel. but first, let's get your news headlines . your latest news headlines. >> thank you very much. nana the bbc has suspended the male presenter accused of paying a teenager tens of thousands of pounds for explicit images. that's after it emerged the young person's mother told the sun she saw a photo of the man in his underwear on her child's phone. in his underwear on her child's phone . the director general, tim phone. the director general, tim davie , has confirmed the bbc was davie, has confirmed the bbc was aware of a complaint in may and

has been investigating the case ever since. in a statement, he also condemned the unsubstantiated rumours being made on the internet about some of the corporations presenting talent at britain is preparing to host the us president. he's due to arrive this evening. joe biden has boarded air force one in delaware and is now on his way to stansted airport . well, way to stansted airport. well, tomorrow he will meet the king at windsor castle before holding talks with the prime minister at downing street. he's expected to raise concerns about brexit and america's decision to send cluster munitions to . ukraine cluster munitions to. ukraine well, joe biden's visit comes ahead of the nato summit in lithuania with the prime minister will urge allies to bolster their defence spending . bolster their defence spending. speaking in vilnius on tuesday , speaking in vilnius on tuesday, rishi sunak is expected to say that we're seeing unprecedented security challenges . the uk security challenges. the uk remains one of the few nato members meeting the alliance's requirement to spend at least 2%

of national income on defence and more than a thousand people have crossed the channel on small boats over the past two days. the home office says over 600 people were intercepted on friday and almost 400 made the journey yesterday . well, despite journey yesterday. well, despite storm warnings, conditions are calm and gb news understands more than 200 people have already been intercepted . added already been intercepted. added this morning that brings this year's total to 12,700. the home office says the number of people risking their lives is on acceptable . at the latest. but acceptable. at the latest. but you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website . that is gbnews.com nato. back to nana . to nana. >> thank you, rory, if you just

joined me, welcome on board. this is gb news on the way at great british debate. this i'm asking should the bbc reveal the identity of presenter x the bbc have confirmed the unnamed presenter who was accused of a teenager of paying a teenager tens of thousands pounds for tens of thousands of pounds for explicit been explicit images has been suspended . that's on the way. suspended. that's on the way. next. my panel will be joining me. anywhere

radio. >> good afternoon. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua live on tv online and on digital radio. now it's time for the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking should the bbc reveal the identity of presenter x? now i can say right now on the website online, there's a poll right now and about 91% of you. so far say that actually we should the bbc have that the unnamed have confirmed that the unnamed male presenter who's been accused a teenager accused of paying a teenager tens thousands of pounds for tens of thousands of pounds for explicit images has been suspended. now this comes as urgent talks taken place urgent talks have taken place today between the culture secretary bbc secretary and the bbc director—general as the ongoing scandal threatens to consume the corporation. and according to reports in the sun, the mother of the teenager said that she was shocked after being shown screenshots a video chat screenshots of a video chat between her child and the presenter in question. so for the great british debate this out, should the bbc out, i'm asking should the bbc reveal identity of presenter reveal the identity of presenter x? well, let's see what my panel make that. joined by make of that. i'm joined by author broadcaster amy author and broadcaster amy nicole turner and also broadcaster and journalist danny

kelly. i'm going to start with you, danny kelly, because i know you, danny kelly, because i know you always love to talk about the presenter in the bbc ex—bbc top presenter in the bbc ex—bbc top presenter in the years, who's the midlands 15 years, who's that ? that replaced? >> because a white, middle >> because i was a white, middle aged bloke diversity tick aged bloke for a diversity tick . i know the bbc inside out. >> they actually said >> have they actually said that to why were replaced? >> i was told that six weeks before you told by before you were told by them. by my boss. yeah. before you were told by them. by my okay. yeah. before you were told by them. by my okay. so in. before you were told by them. by my okay. so my manager because >> okay. so my manager because london wanted line—up station. >> london wanted the line—up to reflect the diversity of birmingham. it was birmingham. okay. and it was just of white people. just full of white people. so, yeah, was that i was the just full of white people. so, yeahfreelancer, that i was the just full of white people. so, yeahfreelancer, so at i was the just full of white people. so, yeahfreelancer, so everyone he only freelancer, so everyone else rights. they only freelancer, so everyone else me rights. they only freelancer, so everyone else me off rights. they only freelancer, so everyone else me off anyway. they only freelancer, so everyone else me off anyway. so 1ey only freelancer, so everyone else me off anyway. so re know booted me off anyway. so i know the bbc and i know how they handle as myself handle scandal. as i myself was suspended for a week. to suspended for a week. nothing to do anything this . do with anything like this. >> why were you suspended? >> why were you suspended? >> in a joke >> because i announced in a joke that elizabeth had died that queen elizabeth ii had died . it was a joke. and we played the national anthem. below the national anthem. oh, below the national anthem. oh, below the on the bed with the announcement a day in the afternoon. >> but you should know. listen everybody knows. everybody knows that of any the that i'd announcement of any the bbc has a very strict obe procedure which is what they call it. >> yeah, was a message.

>> yeah, it was a message. >> yeah, it was a message. >> i know, because used >> i know, because i used to work it's a very work there as well. it's a very strict and you do not work there as well. it's a very strict with and you do not work there as well. it's a very strict with the and you do not work there as well. it's a very strict with the obei you do not work there as well. it's a very strict with the obe procedure ot work there as well. it's a very strict with the obe procedure on mess with the obe procedure on any ever, especially any level ever, especially with members of the royal family, correct? right. i got >> you're right. and i got suspended but my suspended for a week. but my point that are point is, is that there are about 15 managers in involved in that decision. there was the management in birmingham. so my immediate boss, the of the immediate boss, the boss of the of the station, the boss of the region's dealing with people on a in london. and at a local level in london. and at the time it was the director general. his general. i can't remember his name, took about name, and the process took about 48 and i was suspended. so 48 hours and i was suspended. so the bbc do these things in incredibly, almost glacial pace . and when you say glacial , do . and when you say glacial, do you mean slow? >> you said you said within 48 hours. that's not slow . well, hours. that's not slow. well, they could have suspended 48 hours show. but this this hours of the show. but this this is interesting because lady is interesting because the lady says there's nothing confirm says there's nothing to confirm the claim. i mean, maybe it is that she approached them in may. and that's quite that's really slow. whereas yours is 48 hours, which i'd say is quite quick. yeah. >> well that's that's your view i >> -- >> it's not lam

em >> it's not my view. >> it's not my view. >> 48 hours over two months. quite quick. and that's. >> no not view. >> no, no, no it's not a view. >> people are saying no, no, no. >> people are saying no, no, no. >> actually you >> i'm actually giving you factual took factual stuff. you said it took 48 suspend 48 hours for them to suspend you. and i'm saying you. you say. and i'm saying that's quick in comparison to it's opinion it's not an opinion in comparison in comparison the comparison in comparison to the fact apparently had fact that apparently they had this information about this person in may. and we are now in june. >> in july. i'll answer that, because they're investigating the veracity of it . i suppose the veracity of it. i suppose yours on tape . mine was on yours was on tape. mine was on tape. they knew what i'd said , i guess. >> well, i don't think i think it's very slow. >> be careful in instance >> be careful in this instance because at because the key word at the moment accused . moment is accused. >> but they could have been saying guilty anything. >> think bbc have to do >> so i think the bbc have to do a investigation a very thorough investigation before thing is before anything thing is confirmed because, you know where false accusations can end. >> and we're living in the aftermath of reputation. yeah, but fantasy who ruined so many but a fantasy who ruined so many people's lives by saying there was a vip. >> yeah, but. but hang on, hang on, thorough on, wait. but a thorough investigation mean if you're giving something of that ilk, say, may, then you would say, in may, then you would think that having taken that you

would look at that and investigate and start investigating there investigating right there and then sounds of it, it then and by the sounds of it, it doesn't they very doesn't sound like they did very much between. that's that's much in between. that's that's that's what it's coming across as. >> but okay what you could almost argue what's it got to do with the bbc. if there was with the bbc. well if there was an on earth there an announcement on earth there was that of their presenters was that one of their presenters may something that may be doing something and that this office hours. this person office hours. >> no, that's irrelevant. but i guess was at time and guess was young at the time and they've provided some images or anything , then they anything like that, then they are act immediately , are obliged to act immediately, especially if it's somebody who may they not may have been they might not necessarily be doing something illegal, they are doing illegal, but they are doing something that could bring the reputation the bbc into reputation of the bbc into disrepute repute. >> i guess it's like in the >> so i guess it's like in the past on air presenters have past when on air presenters have had, say, drug scandals and it impacts the reputation of the broadcaster. yeah. so that's why you think the would want to you think the bbc would want to be it to get to the be hot footing it to get to the bottom it before they go to bottom of it before they go to distance ? distance themselves? >> well, yeah, if it's not true , then you suspend somebody and the greatest tenet of british, i

believe, legislation is you are innocent until proven guilty. yeah, but i'm not saying they shouldn't, should, should suspend him. >> saying that they should suspend him. >> more aying that they should suspend him. >> more quicklyat they should suspend him. >> more quicklyat thejgiven,.d act more quickly when given, provided some sort of information that . even if information like that. even if it turns out to be false, that's great. they haven't named they haven't anything. but haven't said anything. but for it around for like it to be hanging around for like two months. >> why suspend if >> but why suspend someone if it's false? >> f“- it's false? >> i'm saying they're >> well, no, i'm saying they're hanging way >> but also the way it's impacting other impacting their other on air talent and people are publications are now running news stories with with really serious stars like gary lineker, jeremy vine saying that they are not involved saying that they are not involved, but still riling . clark's picture was put riling. clark's picture was put on as the lead image on a piece about this story. now i think this draws into question the journalistic legalities of whether you should be able to just run any image alongside any headune. just run any image alongside any headline . that seems absolutely headline. that seems absolutely bizarre to me . so there's bizarre to me. so there's a whole conversation there about what this whole, like, clickbait , titillating stories we can't resist it, but it drags so many

people in just very quickly. >> there's obviously no photographic evidence or there's some would have run with so some would have run with it. so this is however, it's hearsay . this is however, it's hearsay. >> do you not find it slightly ironic that the sun newspaper , ironic that the sun newspaper, who did pay 16 to 18 year old girls for sexually explicit images for five years, are getting on their moral high horse , but they're not getting horse, but they're not getting on their moral high, the moral high they had the teenage girls on the payroll, but she went 45 telling the story that somebody's telling a story. >> i think they are about something about somebody who's potentially bbc perv . potentially bbc perv. >> no, but this is somebody potentially buying photographs for explicit photographs. for buying explicit photographs. >> this is somebody something that of their business model. >> no, no . >> no, no, no. >> until 2015. how is it not the same? >> the pastry girls , that was >> the pastry girls, that was their job. >> the pastry girls, that was theirjob. they >> the pastry girls, that was their job. they volunteered >> the pastry girls, that was theirjob. they volunteered and this person volunteered to sell their images. >> hold on, hold on. but it was part of the newspaper story. >> then was nothing without moral different you to listen. if you again , neither of

if you do this again, neither of you coming back. if you do this again, neither of youyou coming back. if you do this again, neither of youyou either ming back. if you do this again, neither of youyou either support ck. if you do this again, neither of youyou either support paying for >> you either support paying for nudes you don't. nudes or you don't. >> amy i'm not going to >> amy right. i'm not going to say again. this say it again. this show is nothing without and your nothing without you and your viewers. welcome great viewers. let's welcome our great british is their british voices on this. is their opportunity on the show opportunity to be on the show and what think and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. over discussing. let's head over to saint chat saint albans. let's have a chat with regular jackie with our regular voice, jackie sampson carr, these two sampson, jackie carr, these two kids agree with you. >> the bbc should have acted faster for intuitively and instinct . i feel like like the instinct. i feel like like the pubuc instinct. i feel like like the public baying for blood. those at the top set their self up in at the top set their self up in a certain way. they think they're above the law and people want to know who it is , but the want to know who it is, but the truth out. but there is a truth will out. but there is a legal precedent. the bbc is probably already tied in legal knots can't just go what knots and we can't just go what will be a career ruining thing either way, whether they're proved guilty or not. the name will come out. but i think intellectually , until it does, intellectually, until it does, until there's an arrest, then perhaps they really shouldn't be named as much as we all like to see the great fall , that's

see the great fall, that's that's something perfectly level and reasonable views. >> thank you so much, jackie. lovely to talk to you. she's our great british voice. thank you so this is gb news so much. right. this is gb news on on digital on tv, online and on digital radio. nana akua. to radio. i'm nana akua. still to come, this week's outside my celebrity today, renowned celebrity guest today, renowned for hair styling skills, for his hair styling skills, he's opened up his first salon with celebrity hairdresser john frieda. you may have caught him on shows celebrity on shows including celebrity come with me and celebrity come dine with me and celebrity pointless . what do you think? pointless. what do you think? who do you think it is? let's get . get some weather. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast where further showers and longer spells of rain over the next few days. there will be some sunshine, though , but for many sunshine, though, but for many of it will feel fresher. and of us it will feel fresher. and the reason for this is this area of low pressure. it's been around the last days. around over the last few days. just sat to west us. but just sat to the west of us. but over the coming few days, it actually spreads towards us and

increase is the risk of showers and longer spells of rain. even more so this evening. we do have thundery showers across the uk, but they will start to fade away and then most places overnight will see clear skies, though towards the early hours, we could see some showers moving back into southwestern parts of the uk. temperatures generally the uk. temperatures generally the low to mid teens . so the low to mid teens. so a little fresher than recent nights, but still quite warm for the time of year. monday morning gets off to a dry start for many, plenty of sunny spells, though the cloud quickly thickens from the southwest. this rain pushes north this area of rain pushes north eastwards through the day , eastwards through the day, turning heavy at times, particularly across wales into the north—west england the midlands, north—west england to elsewhere. we'll see a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers and the best of the sunshine towards the south—east. we could see highs around 24 or 25 celsius elsewhere. generally the high teens to low 20s that area of rain across north wales, northern england continues to push further north as we head through the evening and then

further spells of rain push into southern parts of the uk as we move into the early hours. this could be heavy times . so could be heavy at times. so overnight of cloud around overnight a lot of cloud around outbreaks and that will outbreaks of rain and that will keep temperatures up generally a little higher, 14 to degrees little higher, 14 to 17 degrees across much of the country . so across much of the country. so it means a cloudy, wet start for many tuesday morning. heavy showers already, but it should brighten up as we move through the morning, into the afternoon . but that will trigger a few heavy showers, too, over the next few days. it remains unsettled as that low pressure stays in charge . further showers stays in charge. further showers and spells rain than and longer spells of rain than temperatures around average . temperatures around average. >> the temperatures rising . >> the temperatures rising. boxed solar are proud sponsors of weather on .

britain's news . channel britain's news. channel >> good afternoon. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. it's time now for world view. yesterday marked 500 days since russia launched their invasion of ukraine. a bleak milestone tone for a conflict with no end in sight. currently in ukraine and its western allies hope the ambitious counter—offensive launched last month can liberate russian occupied areas . so russian occupied areas. so joining me to talk about all of thatis joining me to talk about all of that is russian journalist alexi alexi. thank you very much. good to see you again. alexi so talk to see you again. alexi so talk to me about what's going on at the moment , to me about what's going on at the moment, because biden and his cluster bombs .

his cluster bombs. >> hello, nana yes, earlier this week, u.s >> hello, nana yes, earlier this week, us president joe biden finally approved the supply of cluster bombs to ukraine. the decision, which himself, he said, was a hard one. and i just remind you that cluster bombs are considered an inhumane kind of weapon banned in most countries , but not in the united countries, but not in the united states . actually, the united states. actually, the united states. actually, the united states has been using cluster bombs in most conflicts since the war in korea. and they're probably supplying the same cluster bombs . they still bomb cluster bombs. they still bomb vietnam . and i can assure vietnam with. and i can assure you that here in the kremlin, it will be seen as a towards will be seen as a step towards further pretty much further escalation. pretty much as, oh, other weapons, supplies to ukraine. the same time , to ukraine. at the same time, ukrainian minister of defence oleksii reznikov, he said that ukraine does need those cluster bomb supplies as well as all other weapons supplies so they can continue their counteroffensive , counteroffensive, counteroffensive, counteroffensive that apparently is stalemated right now. but i will leave it to military experts to comment on whether it's sufficient to not use cluster bombs on its own territory because as we

remember, the problem with cluster bombs, that a lot of them don't detonate right away, but they can detonate decades later well both later and injure. well both friendly troops and civilians . friendly troops and civilians. >> so can i ask you as well, on a slightly lighter note progression and his wig collection , that's a good one. collection, that's a good one. >> well, earlier this week, belarussian president, alexander lukashenko, he said that mr prigozhin, the head of the wagner group, his not in belarus. and while it has been a mystery, his whereabouts have been a mystery for everyone , been a mystery for everyone, because earlier we tracked his private jet flying to belarus. we don't know if he was on board or not, but then his private jet returned to saint petersburg . he returned to saint petersburg. he might be saint petersburg might be in saint petersburg right well, it's right now because, well, it's the power hold of mr putin himself, but it's also the home city of mr prigozhin. and well, in the 90s, those two powerful men, they were walking the same streets. that's how they met. that's how prigozhin's career started . so his wikileaks started. so his wikileaks collection mostly has to do collection of mostly has to do with more than just his artistic

abilities because right now he has to conceal identity . so has to conceal his identity. so far, seen him the far, i haven't seen him on the streets of moscow, but. well, i don't have to see in don't know. we have to see in saint petersburg. don't know. we have to see in saiiinteresting.g. you don't know. we have to see in saiiinteresting. g. you very >> interesting. thank you very much. good to talk much. really good to talk to you. alexi . thank you. you. that's alexi. thank you. talk let's travel over talk to you. let's travel over to america now and speak to the host politics people host of the politics people podcast. let's podcast. paul duddridge. let's see got in store for see what he's got in store for us now. let's go with biden. he's visiting the uk, isn't he? he's visiting the uk, isn't he? he's he's coming to see he's coming. he's coming to see sunak. >> he's your problem now . >> he's your problem now. >> he's your problem now. >> okay. treat him with kid gloves. make sure there's handrails everywhere, will you, please? >> i'm leaving that in your hands. no steps or sandbags. so, listen, we're trusting you with him. handle with care . him. handle with care. >> so what? also he's coming here. and now i hear a rumour about cocaine in the white house. is >> yes. well, we've had our scandal this week. yeah, they found cocaine in the white house and the press secretary. they can't confirm or deny who is

responsible for leaving this. they're saying the cocaine was found in a lobby of the west wing where many staffers and official visitors enter and officials believe that the source of the drug is highly unlikely to be determined. so i'm just waiting for them to blame it on donald trump somehow. that's really the only game in town, is there going to connect it to him somewhere down the line? but yes, it doesn't look like they're ever going to fully acknowledge who is responsible for depositing cocaine in the white house, leaving it in a lobby in a highly trafficked area, even though it's probably the most secure photograph . cctv building secure photograph. cctv building in the world. apparently they've got absolutely no clue as to who could have done this. but yes , could have done this. but yes, keep watching this. but yes, cocaine in the white house. it's not called the white house for nothing. >> very good. i like that. now, with regard to trump, you mentioned him. they'll probably with regard to trump, you mentioited him. they'll probably with regard to trump, you mentioit on1im. they'll probably with regard to trump, you mentioit on him. 'hey'll probably with regard to trump, you mentioit on him. 'hey'll pro about blame it on him. but what about him and his valet? what is that about? it

>> look, all right, you can take certain views. i take the view that this is a witch hunt. they are trying . the department of are trying. the department of justice going after everybody justice is going after everybody around . and so they have around trump. and so they have even now prosecuted and he's had to plead guilty . his valet and i to plead guilty. his valet and i don't know if you're aware of like when a president that enters administration, they have like a body man, call him like a body man, they call him andifs like a body man, they call him and it's just an assistant, an executive assistant, a valet, basically, this guy is actually left the administration after trump left and came with him . trump left and came with him. and he basically is just like, you straightens collars you know, straightens collars and just his sort of hands and just is his sort of hands in gum. that kind of gum. et cetera. that kind of role. department of justice role. the department of justice have prosecuted him for actually moving boxes of documents . this moving boxes of documents. this is basically it. and so even in the new york times, they're reporting that this guy is called walt nato. he's going to be his name is going to be around a lot in the coming months. walt nato, he's the lowest on the ladder of the administration . he literally is administration. he literally is just the hands hands the

president gum kind of guy. he's been prosecuted. they're trying anything to get anybody to flip on donald trump to testify against him. >> it's absurd. listen paul duddridge, always a pleasure. thank you so much. really good to talk to the politics to talk to host the politics people podcast. is gb news. people podcast. this is gb news. more to come in the next hour or . it's 5:00. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now in moment , hitting the headlines right now in moment, i'll be joined in just a moment, i'll be joined by celebrity mystery guest. by my celebrity mystery guest. he's known to be the king of hairdressing. he's got a great empire as well. he's been on loads of reality tv shows. any idea who he is? get that message into then on the way, into me now, then on the way, the debate the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, asking , is it time for hour, i'm asking, is it time for labour to disassociate from just stop oil but first, let's get your latest news headlines .

your latest news headlines. >> thank you very much, nana. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom. the bbc has suspended the male presenter accused of paying the male presenter accused of paying a teenager tens of thousands of pounds for explicit images. that's after it emerged the young person's mother told the sun she saw a photo of the man in his underwear on her child's phone. the director general, tim davie, has confirmed the bbc was aware of a complaint in may and it's been investigating the case ever since. in a statement, he also condemned the unsub's incited rumours being made on the internet about some of the corporation's actions presenting talent . more than 1000 people talent. more than 1000 people have crossed the english channel on small boats over the past two days. the home office says over 600 people were intercepted on friday and almost 400 made the journey yesterday . well, despite journey yesterday. well, despite storm warnings, conditions are calm and gb news understands

more than 200 people have already been intercepted this morning . it brings this year's morning. it brings this year's total to 12,700. the home office says the number of people risking their lives is unacceptable , while britain is unacceptable, while britain is preparing to host the us president, who's due to arrive this evening. joe biden has boarded air force one in delaware and is now on his way to stansted airport . well, to stansted airport. well, tomorrow he'll meet the king at windsor castle before holding talks with the prime minister downing street. he's expected to raise concerns about brexit and america's decision to send cluster munitions to ukraine. well, joe biden's visit comes ahead of the nato summit in lithuania , where the prime lithuania, where the prime minister will urge allies to bolster their defence spending . bolster their defence spending. speaking in vilnius on tuesday , speaking in vilnius on tuesday, rishi sunak is expected to say that we're seeing unprecedented rented security challenges . the rented security challenges. the uk remains one of the few nato members meeting the alliance's requirement to spend at least 2%

of national income on defence s more than 700 firearms have been seized in the uk by the national crime agency. forces have been working with police in spain to stop guns, which can easily be converted from entering the uk . converted from entering the uk. in 11 cases, firearms were sent to people with mental health issues and seven involved people with extreme views. the nca says 74 people have been arrested , 74 people have been arrested, resulting in 50 convictions over the past five years. police say they're investigating a possible hate related incident in county tyrone. it's after the irish flag and a picture of the taoiseach, leo varadkar was placed on top of a bonfire . placed on top of a bonfire. there was also a boat with a banner which read good friday agreement. that ship has sailed. the pyre was later set alight, but psni chief inspector john but psni chief inspectorjohn kyrees says evidence is now

being gathered to establish whether a criminal offence has been committed . just stop. oil been committed. just stop. oil has denied any involvement in the stunt of the former chancellor's wedding. yesterday the group posted a video of a woman who threw orange confetti at george osborne and also at his wife, thea rogers . but it's his wife, thea rogers. but it's now saying it wasn't responsible for it, just stop. oil, however, applauded the move , which applauded the move, which generated publicity for its cause. generated publicity for its cause . the chancellor is set to cause. the chancellor is set to outline so—called evolution pension reforms to boost economic growth. jeremy hunt plans to make changes to pension funds, encouraging investors to support fast growing businesses . well, in a speech tomorrow, he's expected to say the changes will be gradual, not he's expected to say the changes will be gradual , not drastic. will be gradual, not drastic. the government says the aim is to help savers as pension schemes and the uk concerns have been raised about the thousands of displaced ukrainians who are

still in temporary accommodation in scotland. the liberal democrats say more than 3000 ukrainians are still in hotels and around 700 are on board the ms victoria cruise ship where the party says progress has been slow and it criticised the lack of resource . as the government of resource. as the government says it's working on longer term . housing gb news we'll bring you more as it happens . now you more as it happens. now though, it's back to nana . though, it's back to nana. >> thank you. rory good afternoon. it's five minutes afternoon. it's five minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next houn i'm nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this about opinion . this show is all about opinion. it's theirs. and of it's mine, it's theirs. and of course, yours. we'll course, it's yours. we'll be debating, , and at debating, discussing, and at times will disagree. but no times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled . so

one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcast and journalist danny kelly and also political commentator amy nicole turner. still to come, each sunday at 5:00, i'm joined by celebrity, a former mp or someone who's had an extremely interesting career to take a look life after the we look at life after the job. we talk lows and lessons talk highs, lows and lessons learnt comes on learnt and what comes next on the outside . and today, my the outside. and today, my celebrity mystery guest was renowned for his hairstyling skill. he opened his first salon with celebrity hairdresser john frieda. may have caught him frieda. you may have caught him on shows including celebrity come and come dine come dining and also come dine with me pointless and other stuff . he was also awarded an stuff. he was also awarded an obe and i'm pretty sure they cut princess diana's hair. and for the great british bake this out, i'm asking, is it time labour disassociate from just stop oil the warriors are at it again the eco warriors are at it again after throwing confetti over the former chancellor george osborne and his new wife wedding this begs the question whether labour need to start distancing themselves from the controversial group as if it email me gb views. gb news dot

com or tweet me at gb news as. well before outside. let's get back to our breaking news i brought you earlier on in the show. the bbc have confirmed that the unnamed male presenter has been suspended. now the presenter is alleged to have paid thousands pounds a paid thousands of pounds to a teenager for teenager in exchange for explicit . i'm explicit sexual images. i'm going to have a chat now with international broadcaster judita dasilva the latest. dasilva to get the latest. judha dasilva to get the latest. judita thank you very much for joining we've got an joining me. so we've got an unnamed bbc presenter. we've been asking people whether he should actually should be named. what's your thoughts on that ? what's your thoughts on that? >> um, because was actually talking to a lawyer about this just before and looking at the parameters that the bbc has to operate within based on historical issues. they've had about handling of situations like this? the bbc operates in service of the public, so it's all about optics. but then also they have to think about the ramifications short term and

long term to get an allegation . long term to get an allegation. people say all kinds of things about famous figures. you have to be seen to investigate and follow due process to an extent because down the line should that person be able to prove themselves innocent, you then have to deal with the blowback of them taking you to court for things like defamation of character, emotional distress , character, emotional distress, failure to follow protection of employees, and that can cost them millions. so they have to think about that. but also they have to be seen to be doing what's necessary publicly to be showing that they're taking it seriously . so as showing that they're taking it seriously. so as far as not naming them , i think their hands naming them, i think their hands are tied. they cannot because evenin are tied. they cannot because even in the language they've been using, they said they have to this fairly and to deal with this fairly and with and have robust with care and they have robust investigations because you're innocent guilty . innocent until proven guilty. why should they it? why should they name it? thinking about these kinds of allegations, mud that allegations, this is mud that sticks of a career. sticks for the rest of a career. so if this person eventually is proven innocent, you've done irreparable damage and you will

have to pay for that. but and again, in situations like this, the burden of proof lies with the burden of proof lies with the victim. once you've reached a proof , they will a threshold of proof, they will have to name the person in question . question. >> interesting because >> so it's interesting because earlier saying mean, earlier we were saying i mean, it my view if somebody it was my view that if somebody had say, may, had come to them, say, in may, which when this the parent of which is when this the parent of this alleged teenager came forward, it was in may, the bbc didn't seem to act or do anything . and apparently, i anything. and apparently, i mean, just reading from what the papers say, the mother then got annoyed sort of thing because she wasn't getting the response or investigation. or any real investigation. do you a sense, you think the bbc, in a sense, seemed to drag their heels a little bit ? little bit? >> again, it's the situation. it's the legal issues they have, because from what we know, it's a well, it's a well positioned person. this presenter here. and when the accusations were made in may, what upset the mother was that the person stayed on air. but look at the position they have. should you get an accusation like that and pull them off air? they can say that you haven't met the burden of proof justify you pulling

proof to justify you pulling that person off air. it would take time to investigate it, that person off air. it would take time to investigate it , to take time to investigate it, to again meet that threshold of proof. now, they say in the statement they released just over an hour ago, the individual has been suspended. so they're following the lines because especially because they're going to anyone to be scrutinised beyond anyone else . should they now else. should they now retroactively be investigated for how they handle this? they have crossed every t, dotted every i and ticked every box where we gave the person they afforded the person the protections the umbrella protections under the umbrella of being a bbc employee because guilty or innocence. they do have those protections. but once certain things have been met the person was suspended pending further investigation. so the bbc has done its job. they may not like the speed it's being done at, but it has been done to according the letter of the law. they need to follow . they need to follow. >> mean i mean , okay. so >> well, i mean i mean, okay. so in that respect, is fair in that respect, it is fair enough. do think enough. but again, i do think that like long that seems like a long time because was it like may through to now june, july, you know, if

you're going to investigate whether you're going to take someone off air for some period of now that has been of time now that person has been suspended in, say, in suspended pending it in, say, in politics and certain situations, that person may have been named. but at this point, do you think now that person's been suspended, they should be named or with the or do you still hold with the fact really need to keep fact that we really need to keep it we actually have it down until we actually have some information . on some proper information. on >> the key is this is for two. avoid the it's kind of like the way judges in courts are governed, even if there's there is no impropriety. the perception of impropriety is bad enough as impropriety itself cannot be seen to be, quote unquote, throwing him under the bus to preserve their image . bus to preserve their image. right now, i guarantee there is no communication between the management and bbc and this individual. everything is going through lawyers because after the fact, there's a perception of collusion . so what is of collusion. so what is happening now that the happening now is that the lawyers person are lawyers for this person are saying that are protected saying that they are protected up this burden of proof is

up until this burden of proof is met, then their name can be released . i just don't believe released. i just don't believe it has been met yet because we're still at the allegation stage. once that has been proven , can say we're , the bbc then can say we're releasing the name in the public interest. so this is all a lot of very difficult . and as tim of very difficult. and as tim davis said, very complex situations to juggle at the same time, because whether you think it's deplorable that person as a bbc employee has rights and you're innocent until proven guilty , and those rights must be guilty, and those rights must be respected . and again, our hearts respected. and again, our hearts may go out to the allegation made to the victim. they have to be as well. so be protected as well. so everyone's lawyers are definitely wages definitely earning their wages right now. >> interesting. judith de silva , you very much for that. , thank you very much for that. thank much. good thank you so much. really good to you. a to talk to you. she's a broadcaster, an international broadcaster, an international broadcaster at that well, of course, now , though, time course, now, though, it is time for outside . now, my for this week's outside. now, my special guest famous special mystery guest is famous for building a hair empire. he landed his first shoot with vogue , aged just 17, before vogue, aged just 17, before working with john frieda to open their own salon. he suffered from a heroin addiction in the

19805, from a heroin addiction in the 1980s, but recovered and started building what would become a very successful business alongside then girlfriend leslie clark. he starved the locks of icons such as princess diana , icons such as princess diana, margaret thatcher and david bowie , and his hands were once bowie, and his hands were once insured for £1 million. he also became a media personality , became a media personality, appearing on numerous tv shows. my mystery guest today, have you guessed it? yes of course. it's nicky clark . nicky, nice to see nicky clark. nicky, nice to see you. what fabulous hair you have got . you can't be that old. you got. you can't be that old. you on my head these days? >> yeah , but it looks so good. >> yeah, but it looks so good. >> yeah, but it looks so good. >> it looks so full. what do you do to keep it that way? i want to know because, honestly, it's called out the shower to know because, honestly, it's call , i'm. listen, i mean, >> no, i'm. listen, i mean, i've. i've i've always used my own products because that's all that's ever been around. but but, you know, one has to admit that the cosmetic side of it is only a small percentage. you know , i'm i'm blessed know, i'm i'm blessed genetically . i think that, um, genetically. i think that, um, that as i say, it's still sort

of still on my head anyway. >> yeah, it looks great. it looks great. and you can't be that old, though, are you? you're how old are you? can you say? >> well, just. i actually just had my 65th birthday actually. just last week, 65. >> now look at you. you look you haven't aged. >> i'm not loving that . that's >> i'm not loving that. that's for sure. >> wow, you haven't aged. you don't look that old at all. you look the way you looked when i sort you sort of last sort of saw you when lot of when you were doing a lot of stuff but you've been in stuff on tv. but you've been in the hair business for quite some time. so to me about the time. so talk to me about the early getting early years of getting into hair, mean, had hair, because, i mean, you had your salon very quickly. and your own salon very quickly. and in one of the exclusive in one of the most exclusive parts london talked me parts of london was talked to me about all of that, how you sort of to that. of came to that. >> yeah, i mean, actually, it wasn't that quickly. wasn't really that quickly. >> i mean, started in 1974 >> i mean, i started in 1974 and i fortunate to be told to go i was fortunate to be told to go to, um, a guy called leonard who was really the leading light of his time. and and really just started there as a, as a teenagen started there as a, as a teenager. and you know, sweeping

hair and, you know , polishing hair and, you know, polishing the brass and all of those things. and again, was just very, very fortunate to be assigned at that point. i was i worked very much with john frieda, who was doing an awful lot of editorial magazine work , lot of editorial magazine work, of which, you know, i started to do an awful lot myself, as you said in the intro, you know, actually, by chance , i ended up actually, by chance, i ended up doing my first job for vogue magazine at the age of 17. i think i lied about my age, actually . um, but no, i've been actually. um, but no, i've been very, very fortunate in a career that has spanned salons and travelling and, um, you know , a travelling and, um, you know, a magazine career and then, in fact , in the 90s, after 16 or 17 fact, in the 90s, after 16 or 17 years, in fact, of , of fact, in the 90s, after 16 or 17 years, in fact, of, of being at john frieda , i decided to open john frieda, i decided to open up my own salon. so that, of course, was over 30 odd years ago. and and didn't really know that it was going to have the kind of impact that it that it did. um, but of course what,

what happened was i suppose the stars were all aligned that that mixture of somebody that had the, the experience in a salon and the experience in the studio. so it was unusual. you know, there are lots of great hairdressers that were in salons and lots of great hairdressers that were in studios and doing magazine work. but there really wasn't anybody else doing both , wasn't anybody else doing both, isuppose wasn't anybody else doing both, i suppose so. so i think it was really that that kind of helped. and, you know, and, and had a whole load of celebrity clients as well that obviously thought that i was doing something right i >> -- >> yeah, but you had princess diana , you did her hair. diana, you did her hair. i remember that because she's sort of like a because i mean, my brother, he sort of started my hair one time when i had the wet look. have remembered look. you may have remembered that that that awful, greasy star. that was started my was years ago. and he started my hair styled hair and it was styled exactly the was . and i the same way. his was. and i noficed the same way. his was. and i noticed princess diana's noticed that princess diana's hair similar style to hair was a similar style to yours. you had that of. yours. you had that sort of. >> very interesting. yours. you had that sort of. >> yeah. very interesting. yours. you had that sort of. >> yeah. very inte|is.:ing. yours. you had that sort of. >> yeah. very inte|is. yeah you >> yeah. the thing is. yeah you know, i did do princess diana's hair, but actually, i don't

really the credit for it. i really take the credit for it. i mean, you know, this amazing hairdresser called mcknight hairdresser called sam mcknight was the guy really did the was the guy who really did the whole thing but it just whole thing, but it just happened to be that on you know, i knew from some of the i knew her from some of the fashion that would fashion shows that she would come i was come to the rehearsals. so i was there . and also went to there. and also my son went to there. and also my son went to the same school as william at for a year. so, in fact , i would for a year. so, in fact, i would see her in the mornings . and in see her in the mornings. and in fact, when i did her hair, um, on one of the occasions tunes, it was actually when she was going to see pavarotti in the park. of course, it got she park. and of course, it got she got so it got completely drenched. so it kind of went around the world with this wet look that with this wet look hair that you're about . with this wet look hair that you're about. but as you're talking about. but as much she was just a delight, much as she was just a delight, i really and also, you know , on i really and also, you know, on the tour buses, it was as if i was doing here. i can't really take the credit for doing it all the time. that really has to go to sam. yeah >> have you ever done somebody's hair and it's gone badly wrong though? when hair and it's gone badly wrong thorgone when hair and it's gone badly wrong thorgone really when hair and it's gone badly wrong thorgone really bad, when hair and it's gone badly wrong thorgone really bad, you've|en it's gone really bad, you've gone. god. it's gone really bad, you've goryou god. it's gone really bad, you've goryou gorwhat? >> you know what? >> you know what? >> would. would love would >> i would. i would love i would love sit here and say, yeah,

love to sit here and say, yeah, 30 years ago or whenever it was, i did this thing and it didn't work. and it would make such great copy. but i mean, without being too sort of i don't want to be sort of egotistical, but it was like, no, that never happened because i was too scared that that was going to. so, you we would be so, you know, we would be talking things, talking about things, you know, if doing something quite if i was doing something quite radical. those things did radical. and those things did happen wasn't without happen. it wasn't without a conversation . i really didn't conversation. i really didn't want to have those moments where somebody sort of looks at it and went, really? that of went, really? it's that kind of , so yeah, i'm , you know, mean. so yeah, i'm sure maybe there were times when it not been as perfect, it may not have been as perfect, but can't of any real but i can't think of any real disasters at all. actually. >> that's good . that's good. so >> that's good. that's good. so what are you to these days what are you up to these days now? up to you now? what are you up to you now? what's going because you what's going on? because you recently salon recently you closed the salon about ago, you? about a year ago, didn't you? well, about a year ago, didn't you? well. about a year ago, didn't you? well closed london down. i mean, >> i closed london down. i mean, you know , i'd. i expected there you know, i'd. i expected there to be some publicity, but i didn't quite expect it to be the outpouring of grief that i had that as if i was retiring . and,

that as if i was retiring. and, you know, it's really it was very odd. i mean, my wife now says that, god, it's like you died and, you know, you got to hear about , died and, you know, you got to hear about, you know, all these incredible eulogies from people. i mean, i go, well, i'm not retiring. and in fact , actually, retiring. and in fact, actually, my life is busier now than it was. still have my was. i mean, i still have my salon . i have my salon in salon. i have my salon in birmingham . i, salon. i have my salon in birmingham. i, i salon. i have my salon in birmingham . i, i work of my birmingham. i, i work out of my brother's salon in london. but, you know, most importantly , my you know, most importantly, my product company, which is the electrical side of the business, has always been the biggest part of our business. you know, without sounding too trite about it, i have salons because i like working in a salon. i like working in a salon. i like working with people. and, you know, i'm going to be like mick jaggen know, i'm going to be like mick jagger. i'm never retiring, you know, god. i mean , i know, so thank god. i mean, i think my clients breathed a sigh of you know, i'm of relief. so you know, i'm busier than ever, but, you know, the london salon just didn't work in terms of the way , you work in terms of the way, you know, after covid, you know, we had an awful lot of you know, hairdressers that didn't want to come in, you know, people that it was different and

it was a different dynamic. and to , i don't really want to be fair, i don't really want to be fair, i don't really want to have a salon unless it's actually fantastic, you know, and i don't want my legacy to be anything other than it being just kind of wonderful and mad. and so , you know, that's what and so, you know, that's what i do now. i still do my clients and, and that's and i concentrate on the product company. and also it just seems to be now that international only there seems to be an awful lot more interest in you know me trying to bring either that educational program or salons to other parts of the world. certainly in the middle east at the moment is kind of becoming very interesting. but no, i'd like say that i'm retiring, like to say that i'm retiring, but no, it's not quite the case yet . yet. >> well, listen, you do a job yet. >> �*love, listen, you do a job yet. >> �*love, you n, you do a job yet. >> �*love, you neverou do a job yet. >> �*love, you never work a job yet. >> �*love, you never work a day you love, you never work a day in life. nicky thank you love, you never work a day in veryife. nicky thank you love, you never work a day in very much. ky thank you love, you never work a day in very much. lovely thank you love, you never work a day in very much. lovely to thank you love, you never work a day in very much. lovely to thanito you very much. lovely to talk to you. welcome. you. you're very welcome. >> you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you much. there >> thank you. >:great1k you much. there >> thank you. >:great inyou much. there >> thank you. >:great inyotthisnuch. there >> thank you. >:great inyotthis is ch. there >> thank you. >:great inyotthis is gb there >> thank you. >:great inyotthis is gb news.3re is great in it. this is gb news. thank you to nicky clark. that was come. was outside loads still to come. stay tuned way. of stay tuned on the way. of course, the great british debate in supplements and supplements sunday as well. we'll be discussing relationships. but

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yeah still quite warm for the time of year. monday morning gets off to a dry start for many, plenty of sunny spells, though the cloud quickly thickens from the southwest. rain southwest. this area of rain pushes north eastwards through the day, turning heavy at times, particularly wales particularly across wales into the , north—west england the midlands, north—west england to elsewhere , we'll see a to elsewhere, we'll see a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers and the best of the sunshine towards the south—east. could see highs south—east. we could see highs around 24 or 25 celsius elsewhere. generally the high teens to low 20s, that area of rain across north wales, northern england continues to push further north as we head through the evening and then further spells of rain push into southern parts of the uk as we move into the early hours. this could be heavy at so could be heavy at times, so overnight a lot of cloud around outbreaks of rain and that will keep temperatures up. generally a higher, 14 to 17 a little higher, 14 to 17 degrees across much of the country . so it means a cloudy, country. so it means a cloudy, wet start for many tuesday morning. heavy showers already, but it should brighten up as we move through the morning into the afternoon. but that will

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britain's all news. channel >> good afternoon . this is gb >> good afternoon. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. it's now time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, it time for and i'm asking, is it time for labour to disassociate from just stop clean energy stop oil clean energy entrepreneur dale vince is one of just doppo's biggest backers , but has also donated at least 1.5 million to the labour party. sir starmer says that if sir keir starmer says that if his party wins next election his party wins the next election , they'll ban on future , they'll put a ban on future nonh , they'll put a ban on future north sea oil and gas drilling, which rishi sunak seems as which rishi sunak seems sees as evidence of just stop oil directly in influencing labour policy leading to the uk towards energy surrender. policy leading to the uk towards energy surrender . just the boil energy surrender. just the boil of also united those on all sides of the political spectrum with their disruptive action, which many argue that shows a blatant disregard for the general public. and over 2000 eco activists have been arrested since the group was founded in 2022. home secretary suella braverman says the group's protests have cost taxpayers over £18 billion pounds. so if the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is it time for labour disassociate from just

labour to disassociate from just stop joining me to discuss stop oil? joining me to discuss , belinda lucy, former brexit , belinda de lucy, former brexit party mep lois perry, director of nana 26. jim dale, senior meteorologis and denis macshane, former labour mp and minister of state . well, i'm going to start state. well, i'm going to start with belinda. what do you with you, belinda. what do you think ? think? >> well, i think this sort of feigned anger and shock and horror that labour are churning out now about just stop oil is a bit silly really, because there's no escaping that this primary donor to just stop oil is now helping to bankroll the labour party. >> there's no escaping that labour ministers in wales are reportedly having quarterly meetings with extinction rebellion, you know, to shape their policy. all that they voted against the new police powers to stop to stop these protesters and their ridiculous ban on new licences for gas and oil in the north sea. you know, the proof is in the pudding. and this kind of weird menage a trois labour's got going on with

just stop oil backers and extinction rebellion. i think gift the conservatives and in credible attack line for the next election this kind of stuff is student union politics written on the back of a beer mat. you know the wokeist university. they need to grow up and realise the british people are not with them on this. >> dale good afternoon . >> jim dale good afternoon. >> jim dale good afternoon. >> not sure you've looked at the polls of late, but labour are streets ahead of the tories and this has been a dialogue for some time. but i would say this at the beginning is at the very beginning labour is not associated with just stop oil. i don't know where this comes from, but i do know where it comes from. but but there is no do you or you know no do you or don't you know where comes from? where it comes from? >> you and >> you said you do and you don't. you said >> you said you do and you don�*don't you said >> you said you do and you don�*don't know you said >> you said you do and you don�*don't know where'ou said >> you said you do and you don�*don't know where it] said >> you said you do and you don�*don't know where it comes you don't know where it comes from. and you you do know you don't know where it comes from. .it d you you do know you don't know where it comes from. .it comes you do know you don't know where it comes from. .it comes from. yu do know you don't know where it comes from. .it comes from. it do know you don't know where it comes from. .it comes from. it comesw where it comes from. it comes from a big it's there is a loose association. >> of course there is, simply because there want because. so there is i've want to, to push ahead with green policies at net zero and the rest of it. so obviously there is a likeness in terms of but in

terms of saying they are associated by some sort of formal sign agreement, absolute . absolutely not. this is if you if you ask keir starmer or rachel reeves , they say on tv rachel reeves, they say on tv this morning, she actually distanced herself from joe suella. so this isn't this is this untrue . i've spoken from this is untrue. i've spoken from the right trying to sort of the far right trying to sort of paint labour as something some kind of monster and trying to associate them with what's going on wimbledon. and other on at wimbledon. and other places in terms of the demonstrations , it's interesting demonstrations, it's interesting untruths far right. untruths from the far right. >> just talking about 1.5 >> i'm just talking about 1.5 million donation in which is an actual truth. lois perry well, hi . hi. >> can i just say that they wouldn't need to disassociate themselves from just stop oil if indeed they were not associated with them. >> and actually, in the last week, keir starmer had to again disassociate himself from del vince, a major just stop oil vince, a majorjust stop oil donor because he said that those who say that the that climate change is not man made are as bad or maybe even worse than

holocaust deniers. so there are definitely there's definitely an association in there. and actually, there was a massive donation made to the labour party when ed miliband was energy secretary and he actually then put the climate change act through which del vince directly benefited from to the tune over the course of the last period to £100 million. and as i say, he's one of the major just stop oil donors, but just stop oil have actually done so much harm in terms of the green movement and the c02 terms of the green movement and the co2 is terrible agenda . you the co2 is terrible agenda. you know, you've got political parties tripping over themselves now to say , actually, you know now to say, actually, you know what, we're not that green after all, whether it be the labour party or rishi sunak rishi sunak has just pulled out an 11.6 billion foreign aid deal. >> yeah, well, i'm going to bnng >> yeah, well, i'm going to bring denis mcshane because he's doing some sort of funny, smiling as if he thinks it's funny. is. smiling as if he thinks it's fun it. is. smiling as if he thinks it's fun it was is. smiling as if he thinks it's fun it was great. ;. >> it was great. >> it was great. >> it's a lot fun. it's great. great fun. just stop. oil should just shut up, shouldn't they? we great fun. just stop. oil should just allrt up, shouldn't they? we great fun. just stop. oil should just all agree shouldn't they? we great fun. just stop. oil should

just all agree on uldn't they? we great fun. just stop. oil should just all agree on that t they? we great fun. just stop. oil should just all agree on that . they? we great fun. just stop. oil should just all agree on that . on y? we great fun. just stop. oil should just all agree on that . on the lie can all agree on that. on the question of the finance donations, i was arguing for 20 years i failed in government, we can only clean up british politics. boris johnson took £14 million from vladimir putin in donations to the conservative party. if we get democracy to pay party. if we get democracy to pay for democracy, let's leave that on one side. i'd be a bit cautious . s the guy called mark cautious. s the guy called mark harper . you cautious. s the guy called mark harper. you haven't heard of him? he's a transport. i've heard of him. he put out the most amazing today saying most amazing tweet today saying he was going to ban everybody in the country, every council that's tried to do low emission neighbourhoods . that's a message neighbourhoods. that's a message to my grand children. the tories want you out of the streets swallowing poisonous air. i think the tories are so out of touch right now. this country, every country in the world wants cleaner air. sort out the climate change challenge and frankly , dennis, i don't think frankly, dennis, i don't think insincere. i've done some good

work. listen to this. i read that piece. >> i read that piece . dennis. >> i read that piece. dennis. i read that piece . with regard to read that piece. with regard to mark up, i think what he was more saying was actually for them to actually listen to what more saying was actually for the|peopletually listen to what more saying was actually for the|people want listen to what more saying was actually for the|people want rather to what more saying was actually for the|people want rather than 1at more saying was actually for the|people want rather than just the people want rather than just imposing without even and imposing ltns without even and ignonng imposing ltns without even and ignoring people who are ignoring what the people who are paying ignoring what the people who are paying salaries and paying paying their salaries and paying for actually want. for the council actually want. listen, run out of i listen, we've run out of time. i could talk guys for ages. could talk to you guys for ages. thank you very much. to belinda de brexit party mep thank you very much. to belinda de perry, brexit party mep thank you very much. to belinda de perry, directoraxit party mep thank you very much. to belinda de perry, directoraxitcop26.mep thank you very much. to belinda de dale,, directoraxitcop26.mep thank you very much. to belinda de dale,, directmeteorologistep thank you very much. to belinda de dale,, direct meteorologist ,3 jim dale, senior meteorologist, and former and dennis mcshane, former labour of state labour mp and minister of state for this is gb news on for europe. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua on the way. we'll continue with the great british debate and i'm asking is time debate and i'm asking is it time labour debate and i'm asking is it time laboroil debate and i'm asking is it time laboioil but first, let's get stop oil but first, let's get your latest news headlines . your latest news headlines. >> nana nana. thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom . the latest from the newsroom. the bbc has suspended the mail presenter accused of paying a teenager tens of thousands of pounds for explicit images.

that's after it emerged the young person's mother told the sun she saw a photo of the man in his underwear on her child's phone.the in his underwear on her child's phone. the director general, tim davie, has confirmed the bbc was aware of a complaint in may and has been investigating the case ever since. in a statement, he also condemned the unsubstantiated rumours being made on the internet about some of the corporations presenting talent at. britain is preparing to host the us president, who's due to arrive this evening. joe biden has boarded air force one in delaware and is now on his way to stansted airport . way to stansted airport. tomorrow he'll meet the king at windsor castle before holding talks with the prime minister at downing street. he's expected to raise concerns about brexit and america's decision to send cluster munitions to . ukraine cluster munitions to. ukraine well, joe biden's visit comes ahead of the nato summit in lithuania , where the prime lithuania, where the prime minister will urge allies to bolster their defence spending . bolster their defence spending. speaking in vilnius on tuesday , speaking in vilnius on tuesday, rishi sunak is expected to say,

we're seeing unprecedented security challenges. the uk remains one of the few nato members meeting the alliance's requirement to spend at least 2% of national income on defence and more than 1000 people have crossed the english channel on small boats over the past two days. the home office says over 600 people were intercepted on friday and almost 400 made the journey yesterday day despite storm warnings , conditions are storm warnings, conditions are calm in gb news understands more than 200 people have already been intercepted this morning. it brings this year's total to 12,700. the home office says the number of people risking their lives is unacceptable . you can lives is unacceptable. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gb news. .com .

radio. 39 minutes after 5:00. >> this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. it's time now for our great british debate. this hour. i'm asking, is it time for labour to disassociate from just stop oil now clean energy entrepreneur dale vince is just one of just stopped hall's biggest backers, but has also donated £1.5 million to the labour party . a keir starmer labour party. a keir starmer says that if the party wins the next election, they'll put a ban

on future north sea oil and gas drilling. but just stop oil of united . those on all sides of united. those on all sides of the political spectrum with their with their disruptive action, with many arguing that a many arguing that shows a blatant disregard for the public. for the great british public. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is it labour it time for labour to disassociate from just stop oil? let's my make of let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined now by author and amy nicholl and broadcaster amy nicholl and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. right, amy nick gibb just oil . gibb just stop oil. >> just stop oil are not >> well, just stop oil are not associated with the labour party or the labour party have come demmed just stop. oil's tactics this week . sampling the money this week. sampling the money has no i shop at tesco's. i sometimes shop at sainsbury's. they're not linked to each other. >> dale what's that got to do with dale? >> vince is a just stop oil donor and then separately , dale donor and then separately, dale vince is a labour party donor and supporter. those two things are not inextricably linked. are not in inextricably linked. >> why? are they not? of >> why? why are they not? of course they're not. >> up to where he what >> it's up to him where he what he's >> it's up to him where he what he'i've actually interviewed him >> i've actually interviewed him and said that he'll back a and he said that he'll back a party green agenda. >> dale vince adjustable

>> dale vince is adjustable oil supporter . >> dale vince is adjustable oil supporter. but but the labour party have condemned just stop oil whilst taking the money. >> danny i loathe what they do. >> danny i loathe what they do. >> i really do. and they're becoming more loathsome as the days go on. now i know when that george osborne right. some people hate him for being a conservative and being a chancellor >> 300,000 people dying due to austerity . austerity. >> some people loathe him. >> some people loathe him. >> likeable, but they can't. >> likeable, but they can't. >> should look at it >> you should look at it objectively. why a lone objectively. why should a lone wolf say it's wolf so just stop oil, say it's nothing to with but that nothing to do with them but that middle woman was was middle aged woman was was inspired just stop it was inspired by just stop it was just confetti. inspired by just stop it was justyes,fetti. inspired by just stop it was justyes, but. inspired by just stop it was justyes, but why should why >> yes, but why should why something else you're talking about george osborne. >> you look, i'm just >> now, if you look, i'm just i'm talking about how much i loathe what now, if you loathe what they do. now, if you look tactics. no, you look at tactics. no, but if you look at tactics. no, but if you look objected. look at it, objected. lovely. why they day now? >> you don't like a lot more than ruined day. you than that. ruined his day. you think was ruined before think that day was ruined before it people who it started? people, people who don't him can't detach don't like him can't detach their look it their emotions and look at it subjectively . subjectively. >> sorry, it's so subjective. they look okay, give the they should look okay, give the guy it's wedding guy a break. it's his wedding day. need to ruin day. there's no need to ruin your wedding.

day. there's no need to ruin youtalking1g. so you're now >> talking about. so you're now talking ruin his wedding. talking about ruin his wedding. so moved from that. talking about ruin his wedding. so now1oved from that. talking about ruin his wedding. so now talking from that. talking about ruin his wedding. so now talking about that. talking about ruin his wedding. so now talking about thet. we're now talking about the confetti offer, george osborne by says that by somebody who says that they're part of she was lone they're part of she was a lone wolf attack. >> almost talking about >> we're almost talking about isis inspired attacks isis when isis inspired attacks . we're talking about just stop oil . oil inspired attacks. >> she's not with >> they know that she's not with them. what them. that's what i said. >> what great. >> what about great. >> what about great. >> okay. >> what about great. >> so ay. >> what about great. >> so if. >> what about great. >> so if i was a conservative give, i would i would love labour to continue the association, whether it's a genuine association or not. they've them. genuine association or not. thethere them. genuine association or not. thethere is them. genuine association or not. thethere is no them. genuine association or not. thethere is no association. >> there is no association. >> there is no association. >> i would i hope dale vince ploughs millions more into the labour because the labour party because the perception he's labour party. >> dale vince is winning support for just stop oil every time dale vince appears on tv, he wins support for justice. >> where have you got that from ? >> because you can 7 >> because you can say that, oh, his recent media appearances have just strengthened their how do you know where are you? >> you can see the comes >> you can see the man comes armed facts. good armed with facts. he's good humoured. a great, great humoured. he's a great, great i'm good human. >> i'm armed with facts. >> i'm armed with facts. >> doesn't mean for that. of course. we about, course. but if we talk about, for wimbledon for instance, the wimbledon incident can i just say,

incident and can i just say, i do feel like every time a major sporting event is disrupted or something , there is element something, there is an element of like loving the chaos. of being like loving the chaos. come on a little , johnny. come on a little, johnny. >> but when exactly . that's not >> but when exactly. that's not loving the footage. we love the footage. that's not really. no, but my point is. >> point is that the day >> my point is that on the day of wimbledon, actually rain stopped more that stopped play more than that protest did. i'm not bothered. in many ways that's an irony to me, the climate is me, because the climate is making its own protest there. >> amy, the sporting events being don't bother me being disrupted don't bother me really, on for really, because they're on for 90s, they're dragged 90s, then they're dragged off. what really what what really what i really find they hold find repellent is that they hold normal working men and women on their daily, for example, their daily to the office, daily trips to the office, trying to earn a couple of quid and that's what i find now. it's become , you know, become reprehensible, you know, disrupt the cricket. they are they are non stop thousands of people trying to earn a crust. >> their point would always be that climate disruption that the climate disruption we're going see unless we we're going to see unless we stick to the legally binding net zero, which is enshrined in law by the conservative party

supported cross party, then we're going to be more disrupted than a traffic jam or a or a jigsaw puzzle. >> let me just say, i think that what's happened is the political parties have stolen their thunder because they've got literally nothing to complain about in about because we are heading in that case, the that direction. in any case, the pubuc that direction. in any case, the public support public actually support the nofion public actually support the notion and notion of cleaner air and a better but nobody better environment. but nobody supports the of people supports the notion of people behaving spoilt brats, behaving like spoilt brats, throwing of confetti over throwing bits of confetti over people weddings. throwing bits of confetti over people people ddings. throwing bits of confetti over people people do ngs. throwing bits of confetti over people people do condone it. >> some people do condone it. >> some people do condone it. >> amy, do you condone that? do you do you think that's great that he's chucked over that he's chucked confetti over george osborne and his wife after wedding ? i think a after the wedding? i think a little bit. >> other bit of orange >> and the other bit of orange confetti, normal. >> and the other bit of orange con but, normal. >> and the other bit of orange con but you normal. >> and the other bit of orange conbut you can't normal. >> and the other bit of orange conbut you can't missrmal. >> and the other bit of orange conbut you can't miss anything. >> but you can't miss anything. so that mustn't the so that mustn't be the snowflakes. >> that . >> forget that. >> forget that. >> 5 >> forget that. >> get offended by a bit of paper papen >> that to >> you could extend that to something would be toxic something that would be toxic and that but it and dangerous, but that but it wasn't toxic. >> that behaviour , it's the >> but that behaviour, it's the disruption on biggest day disruption on your biggest day of life potentially i >> -- >> is that a couple any so but you can't detach yourself and this is the problem i don't think that the fact that it wasn't toxic and dangerous

excuse me congratulate sorry. >> think that the fact >> i don't think that the fact that it was and it wasn't that it was toxic and it wasn't toxic and dangerous something toxic and dangerous is something that ignore because that we should ignore because that we should ignore because that behaviour we cannot that kind of behaviour we cannot condone that because that could be somebody be something that somebody that does that's toxic. >> g.- >> may i just finally say? >> may i just finally say? >> right. we're all in >> right. i think we're all in agreement. the agreement. the consensus is the conservatives to lose conservatives are going to lose the election. labour have the next election. labour have said going said that they're not going to invest oil and gas invest in any new oil and gas drills, can't just drills, so why can't they just have they're have a moratorium? they're not going tories minds going to change the tories minds over next 18 stop over the next 18 months. stop all protests, allow all of the protests, allow people get on with their all of the protests, allow peopllife. get on with their all of the protests, allow peopllife. and on with their all of the protests, allow peopllife. and thenth their all of the protests, allow peopllife. and then whenir all of the protests, allow peopllife. and then when labour daily life. and then when labour come in, they probably come in, which they probably will they're going will do, then they're going to have which have that guarantee, which is what think have that guarantee, which is whatthink george have that guarantee, which is what think george osborne's >> i think george osborne's wedding perfect wedding was a perfect target because part of the david because he was part of the david cameron administration , which cameron administration, which famously this . green i famously said this. green i don't know whether i can say it on daytime tv. and they are abandoned. they had a moratorium of green policies during that time , including the sustainable time, including the sustainable building that we were going to go ahead with. they they rewound the in many ways. so george the tape in many ways. so george osborne, that's why he was target. >> well, i was to target. >> well, i was going to say, as i person there said i said, the person there said adjustable that although they

corroborated and said something afterwards, they then said that that was a lone wolf. but that person was a lone wolf. but this nothing you this shows nothing without you and welcome and your views. let's welcome our great british voices on their to be on the their opportunity to be on the show us they think show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. of about the topics we're disctoday, of about the topics we're disc today, of of about the topics we're disctoday, of you. of about the topics we're disctoday, of you. let's you today, three of you. let's start with john reid from kidderminster. john, what do kidderminster. now john, what do you then is it time for you think then is it time for the labour party to completely, properly disassociate themselves even from donors for things like just stop oil >> nana, i am 100% with danny on this one. >> i think he's really on the money and not only should labour disassociate themselves, but everybody else as well. what a bunch of nutcases going around the world doing protests and it's never going to achieve anything, is it? so it's a complete disaster. imagine a queue of people sat on the road stopping an ambulance going through to ridiculous don't do that. >> no, they do. they have a blue light policy. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> so frustrating. amy said. >> no, no. >> sydon'ttrating. amy said. >> no, no. >> sydon't doing. amy said. >> no, no. >> sydon't do that..my said. >> no, no. >> sydon't do that. theyaid. >> no, no. >> sydon't do that. they do. >> no, no. >> systopt do that. they do. >> no, no. >> s stop entire at. they do. >> no, no. >> s stop entire traffic.y do. >> no, no. >> s stop entire traffic. they >> no, no. >> s knowzntire traffic. they >> no, no. >> s knowzntan traffic. they >> no, no. >> s knowzntan ambulance! don't know if an ambulance is ten behind . yeah, i'm with ten yards behind. yeah, i'm with you that. let's go to david

you on that. let's go to david bohm. he's there in watford. >> team . >> hi, nana. hi, team. >> hi, nana. hi, team. >> yeah, i think labour should, but because i can see the lone wolf policy thing, labour , if wolf policy thing, labour, if god forbid someone had died silverstone because of a stupid protest, labour would have been up in arms demanding a government inquiry. >> how could this happen ? they >> how could this happen? they have to disassociate themselves from donors and from this whole campaign . if they win the next campaign. if they win the next election, there's no guarantee they will. then they can be judged on their policies. they will. then they can be judged on their policies . but to judged on their policies. but to say they don't, they don't allow to stop ambulances getting through, they film of ambulances, not getting through. there of donor donor there are films of donor donor vehicles getting through vehicles not getting through because these idiots sit in the middle of the road and completely afternoon all the link between labour, dale, vince and just stop. >> oil is all very convenient, isn't it? nana well, it does seem that way . seem that way. >> dale. vince has made £110 million in tax payer subsidy

recently. >> he was going to sell his company for between 200 million and £300 million. it's not for sale at the moment, but i just wondered if he's such an eco warrior . wondered if he's such an eco warrior. he'd like to give back that 110 million of taxpayers money government and make money to the government and make us a little bit better off. us all a little bit better off. these people are just absolute lunatics. nana well, of course he's back. >> i mean, i've spoken to dale. he is all very laudable, but of course if you've got a ecotricity in a company that deals renewables and things deals with renewables and things like that and the government are pushing away, of course pushing that away, of course you'd back the government you'd back them. the government who thank who decide to do that. thank you very british very much. my great british voices. kidderminster, voices. john in kidderminster, david watford alan in david in watford and alan in grimsby. to you. grimsby. lovely to talk to you. right though, now it's time for supplement the supplement sunday. this is the part i part where my panel and i discuss of the news stories discuss some of the news stories that eye. joining that caught their eye. joining me now, author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. as a broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. right. so let's start with with danny's supplement. danny >> okay. >> okay. >> well, no surprise here. the yanks, the americans are more than used to paying large amounts extras gratuities

amounts of extras in gratuities . but all around the world, how much do pay? 20 to 25% is much do you pay? 20 to 25% is the standard tip in america. i've been in new york. i can't remember what i ordered, but i was expecting 3 or $4 change and the barmaid didn't even come back change. saw her back with the change. i saw her put the tip bucket . she put it in the tip bucket. she didn't even offer me the opportunity that you weren't giving that money. opportunity that you weren't giving just1at money. opportunity that you weren't giving just tookioney. opportunity that you weren't giving just took it.ey. >> she just took it. >> she just took it. >> assumed that it was her money. >> 10, isn't it? when you get to 20, it's maddening. 20, 25, 25, it's maddening. >> it's crazy. >> it's crazy. >> was there . it was 10% >> it was there. it was 10% money. was 11. money. that was when i was 11. >> such american custom, >> it's such an american custom, though. tip bartender like though. tip your bartender like , come danny. , come on, danny. >> they argue that >> but they would argue that aware argue that they aware they would argue that they don't paid enough by the aware they would argue that they don't so paid enough by the aware they would argue that they don't so what enough by the aware they would argue that they don't so what you ugh by the aware they would argue that they don't so what you needy the aware they would argue that they don't so what you needy tdo is boss. so what you need to do is tackle first, give them a tackle that first, give them a decent standard of living, and then don't have 20, 25. >> no, em- %- %— 25. >> no, tips are good because >> no, the tips are good because sometimes >> no, the tips are good because sometin before years when >> and before years ago, when i was waitress express, was a waitress in pizza express, i was really good. i used i was i was really good. i used to get like £20 in tips a night. but they were untaxed because they money that you were they were money that you were given customer . so it's a given by the customer. so it's a gift. but now put on the gift. but now they put on the actual then, you know ,

actual bill. so then, you know, then taxed then they're taxed and everythingyou get particular >> and if you get particular good service, you can reward 24. >> you wouldn't do 25. >> you wouldn't do 25. >> well, it depends about the price. and my husband and price. so me and my husband and we were holiday in egypt we were on holiday in egypt recently and we were tipping just what we thought like maybe £2 every time we £2 tips for every time we ordered something. and we thought, wow, we're getting really, really good service on this holiday. we googled later the and we the conversion rate and we realised we kind tipping realised we were kind of tipping them there . monthly income by them there. monthly income by them there. monthly income by the end of how much they would that tip. it was though, because we worked out because it was the same every day. the same staff every day. so by the end of the holiday i think we'd given them a £100 or something. >> probably looked you >> they probably looked at you guys one guys and thought, there's one born every minute. >> i was happy to do >> but i was quite happy to do that for us it was it that because for us it was it wasn't anything. >> yeah, it was lovely. >> yeah, it was lovely. >> supplement, now >> amy, your supplement, now yours flags. oh, yeah. >> so this was a double page in the eye it caught my the eye and it caught my attention all, you attention because we're all, you know dating, you've got red know, in dating, you've got red flags. some. some that is just an absolute no go happens . but an absolute no go happens. but now there's this emergence of

beige flags that we need to look out for. so, i mean , i'm not out for. so, i mean, i'm not dating anymore, but i did myself a lot of dating. i think i probably went on a 300 plus date. so i'm an old hand. >> so you found your old man and you got married. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> we've got a picture of you with your old man. that's why you're. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> outfit stuck the tube >> outfit stuck on the tube because just stop oil closed the tube station due to a protest . tube station due to a protest. >> so you went to your own wedding party because we were 40 minutes but you didn't mind? >> no. well i didn't. i did at that moment . mind we didn't mind i >> -- >> we're having a great time at the gb news app. >> you can see amy snogging her husband on the tube on the 40 degree piccadilly line. >> just stop. oil got in the way. how many? how long does it take to take? >> 300 the way? >> 300 people. by the way? three. dated 300? three. what? you dated 300? >> well, went worked three. what? you dated 300? >> becausell, went worked three. what? you dated 300? >> because it went worked three. what? you dated 300? >> because it wasant worked three. what? you dated 300? >> because it was somethingd out because it was something like i dated for ten years, went on roughly one date a week. it's more it's more than that. it's is . is. >> is that how you met your partner? >> and we met on a dating app.

did we met on hinge. did you? we met on hinge. >> it? yeah. did you? we met on hinge. >> love yeah. did you? we met on hinge. >> love that]. did you? we met on hinge. >> love that one. >> love that one. >> you much better than i think it's gone down the beige flag basically things basically yeah these are things that you the ick so that give you the ick so something happens you're just like, do this i like, i can't do this anymore. i wonder, that what it wonder, did that tell me what it was? tell your beige was? tell me your beige bag. >> was beige flag >> what it was the beige flag was date and he was was we went on a date and he was wearing really wearing these, like, really tight chino things . a tight blue chino type things. a skinny fit man 50 skinny fit man over 50 something, skinny fit. something, wearing skinny fit. >> oh, was it with no socks? >> oh, was it with no socks? >> i went to him. what the hell have you got on? that was. >> so where did you put the beige flag? >> was the flag is on >> that was the beige flag is on the listen, the blue chino. oh, listen, let's stuff anyway, let's get on to my stuff anyway, because it's not actually morally dangerous, is it? >> blue chinos? >> blue chinos? >> it's enough to send >> blue chinos? >> wave it's enough to send >> blue chinos? >> wave a it's enough to send >> blue chinos? >> wave a little iough to send >> blue chinos? >> wave a little beige to send >> blue chinos? >> wave a little beige flagend >> blue chinos? >> wave a little beige flag .id you wave a little beige flag. no, don't a beige flag no, you don't wave a beige flag . i'm pulling your leg. oh, god . pulling your leg . you did. . i'm pulling your leg. you did. you succeeded. whatever >> right. finally, my supplement is a controversial decision by the prosecution service the crown prosecution service has sparked controversy regarding for gender regarding funding for gender transitions cases of domestic transitions in cases of domestic abuse. in guidance, abuse. in a new guidance, they've listed nine types of behaviour amount to

behaviour which could amount to abuse trans or non—binary abuse of trans or non—binary people . and this decision the people. and this decision by the cps questioned over the cps has been questioned over the rights available rights and support available to victims of domestic abuse critically, by critically, heavily by criticised heavily by women's rights. now this comes as police recorded 1.5 million domestic abuse related incidents in england and wales. so an example of one of the things where if you refused gender reassignment surgery for your partner, that would be considered domestic abuse. >> so if they wanted to gender and you said, no, you can't do that. >> no, no. to pay for that, strip it back a little bit more. >> you're preventing your partner from from seeking health care. care and medical care. so health care and medical care. so health care and medical care that require is care that they require is potentially life saving. you're withholding yeah i bad withholding that? yeah i bad i find common graphic abuse. >> we finally find common ground on transgender issues. >> two hours into the show, your partner said look, danny, want partner said look, danny, i want i a bloke i want to be a bloke transitioning bloke. and i want to be a bloke tran said, ing bloke. and i want to be a bloke tran said, well, bloke. and i want to be a bloke tran said, well, first oke. and i want to be a bloke tran said, well, first ofe. and i want to be a bloke tran said, well, first of all,|d you said, well, first of all, if you said, well, first of all, if you a trans you're you have a trans part, you're more welcome do what you want. >> can you please leave, though? >> can you please leave, though? >> yes. >> ea- ea— e watching . listen >> well, she's watching. listen to he said. right. well, to what he said. right. well, on today's asking,

today's show, i've been asking, should bbc reveal the should the bbc reveal the identity of presenter x? and according our twitter poll, according to our twitter poll, get this, 90% of say yes , get this, 90% of you say yes, they should. no, z, that's what they're saying. and 10% of you say no. well, we do pay for the bbc, get there are two bbc, but get it, there are two sides coin. thank sides to that coin. thank you. a huge you to my panel. huge thank you to my panel. thank you so much to the fabulous kelly. fabulous danny kelly. >> you, danny . compliments >> thank you, danny. compliments at to you and also to at the end to you and also to amy. >> nicole to nana turner for one day only on keeping it, i think. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> like because the erg say it isn't it. >> and also a huge thank you to you watching. it's always you for watching. it's always a pleasure. look forward pleasure. aslef. i look forward to seeing you week. same to seeing you next week. same time, on time, same place, 3:00 on saturday. week. saturday. enjoy your week. >> rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast, where further showers and longer spells of rain over the next few days. there will be some sunshine though , but for many of sunshine though, but for many of us it will feel fresher. and the

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elsewhere. generally the high teens to low 20s that area of rain across north wales, northern england continues to push further north as we head through the evening and then further spells of rain push into southern parts of the uk as we move into the early hours. this could heavy times . so could be heavy at times. so overnight a lot of cloud around outbreaks of rain and that will keep up generally keep temperatures up generally a little 14 to 17 degrees little higher 14 to 17 degrees across much of the country . so across much of the country. so it means a cloudy, wet start for many tuesday morning. heavy showers already, but it should brighten up as we move through the morning, into the afternoon . but that will trigger a few heavy showers, too, over the next few days. it

welcome to gloria meats. >> first up, former conservative cabinet minister brandon lewis and moeen ali have never spoken about it. >> my daughter got bullied badly at school as well. and one of the things i was probably more when it