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agents, professor jonathan shalit. obe plus, we'll get the views of former government minister ann widdecombe. do the government need to crack down on the culture at the bbc.7 we government need to crack down on the culture at the bbc? we also tonight, in my big opinion in just a moment, attacking a wedding is a new low for eco lunatic . they're playing a lunatic. they're playing a dangerous game . at some point, dangerous game. at some point, people are going to get hurt. enoughis people are going to get hurt. enough is enough . it's time to enough is enough. it's time to stop. just stop. oil . stop. just stop. oil. so a very busy two hours to come from 10:00. it's a bbc in crisis special . but this hour, we will special. but this hour, we will speak to jonathan shalit, top showbiz agent . is the career of showbiz agent. is the career of this unnamed star effectively over ? will that person go to over? will that person go to jail? what is the reputational damage to the bbc? the licence fee? so many issues, lots to get

through. but in two minutes time i'll be dealing with just stop oil. lots to get through . first, oil. lots to get through. first, the headlines with tatiana sanchez. the headlines with tatiana sanchez . she's . mark. sanchez. she's. mark. >> thank you very much. and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom . the met police has the newsroom. the met police has confirmed received initial confirmed it's received initial contact from the bbc over claims a male presenter paid a teenager for sexually exploit kit images, but that no formal referral or allegation has been made. it's also said we will require additional information before determining what further action should follow . the young should follow. the young person's mother told the sun she saw a photo of the man in his underwear on her child's phone . underwear on her child's phone. the director general, tim davie, has confirmed the bbc was aware of a complaint in may and has been investigating the case ever since . in a statement, he also since. in a statement, he also condemned the unsubstantiated rumours being made on the internet about some of the corporation's presenting talent

at a second child has died after at a second child has died after a car crashed into a primary school in wimbledon on thursday. she has been named as eight year old nuria sajjad . her family has old nuria sajjad. her family has paid tribute to her, saying she was the light of our lives. she embodied joy , kindness and embodied joy, kindness and generosity . well, on thursday, generosity. well, on thursday, it was confirmed that another eight year old, selena lough had died as a result of her injuries . the driver of the car, a 46 year old woman, has been bailed until late july. she was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving after the incident . well, the us the incident. well, the us president is on the way to the uk. he's due to arrive this evening at stansted airport. joe biden will meet the king at windsor castle tomorrow before holding talks with the prime minister at downing street. he's expected to raise concerns about brexit and america's decision to send cluster munitions to ukraine as well. joe biden's visit comes ahead of the nato

summit in lithuania , where the summit in lithuania, where the prime minister will urge allies to bolster their defence spending . speaking on tuesday, spending. speaking on tuesday, rishi sunak is expected to say we're seeing unprecedented security challenges as the uk remains one of the few nato members meeting the alliance's requirement to spend at least 2% of national income on defence. this more than a thousand people have crossed the english channel on small boats over the past two days. the home office says over 600 people were intercepted on friday and almost 400 made the journey yesterday . gb news journey yesterday. gb news understands more than 200 people were intercepted this morning. it brings this year's total to 12,700. the home office says the number of people risking their lives is unacceptable . and lives is unacceptable. and finally, just stop. oil has denied any involvement in the stunt at the former chancellor's wedding yesterday, the group posted a video of a woman throwing orange confetti at george osborne and his wife,

thea rogers . but it's now saying thea rogers. but it's now saying it wasn't responsible . just it wasn't responsible. just stop. oil, however, applauded the move, which generated pubuchy the move, which generated publicity for its cause . tv publicity for its cause. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. you're with gb news. now it's back to . it's back to. mark thanks , tatiana. thanks, tatiana. >> welcome to mark dolan tonight it in my big opinion in just a moment . attacking a wedding is moment. attacking a wedding is a new low for eco lunatics. they're playing a dangerous game. at some point people are going to get hurt enough is enough. it's time to stop . just enough. it's time to stop. just stop. oil in the big story. should the bbc name and shame their disgraced star? i'll be asking one of the country's most powerful showbiz agents. my mark meets guest is the author of a brand new book on misinformation. the problem is who decides what that is from

ten. we will be bringing you a bbc in crisis special, including my take at ten and my verdict on this media bombshell story and the threat it now poses to our national state broadcaster . mark national state broadcaster. mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from 1030. will we get more detail on who this star could be? make sure you're with us at 1030 sharp. we'll get reaction from my top pundits tonight at three top individuals, journalists and experts who haven't been told what to say and who most certainly don't follow the script. good luck scripting michael crick. yes with me tonight, michael crick, emma webb and john, sergeant. >> tonight i'll be asking the punst >> tonight i'll be asking the pundits as he faces by—election wipe—out has rishi sunak lost his mojo also as a biological male wins a major female beauty contest in holland? >> is this wonderful progress or further proof that women are being erased ? and as rumours

being erased? and as rumours abound that this morning stars alison hammond and dermot o'leary are at war, do you have to get on with your colleagues to get on with your colleagues to be successful? plus your emails, especially the spicy ones? mark at gbnews.com this show has a golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch . i do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. well, it's not going to be boring tonight, is it? let's start with my big opinion . opinion. >> i've noticed something about those numpties at. >> just stop oil who are predominantly middle class and seemingly on a permanent gap year. seemingly on a permanent gap year . they're not just bonkers year. they're not just bonkers and deluded, they are smug. did you see the arrogant look on the face of that woman who stormed into ex—chancellor george osborne's wedding invite , osborne's wedding invite, raiding what should have been their special day? she just wants to get across her deranged political message . edge but political message. edge but you'll see here there's osborne with his beautiful, lovely partner . they're about to get partner. they're about to get

attacked . and let's just see attacked. and let's just see this woman as she dances around in a pretend wedding outfit and a union. jack, how ironic. these people aren't patriotic . look at people aren't patriotic. look at that smug smile. so confident. she's on the right side of history . so holier than thou. history. so holier than thou. well i'd like to give her holy hell . because whether or not you hell. because whether or not you like george osborne, he's been out of politics for years now . out of politics for years now. and this was a private occasion , one which belonged to him , his , one which belonged to him, his beautiful new wife and his friends and family. it did not belong to this bourgeois bulldozer whose unbending ideology will have you believe that the planet will have burnt down by next tuesday . in the down by next tuesday. in the end, we have a right to protest and that is precious. but it's got to be peaceful and within the law. it's my view this wedding couple were assaulted , wedding couple were assaulted, but the police couldn't care less , it seems. don't forget, less, it seems. don't forget, they asked . m25 protesters glued they asked. m25 protesters glued to the tarmac whether they were okay or wanted a drink or a sandwich , as well as a right to

sandwich, as well as a right to peaceful protest. we also have this old thing called democracy in which you can express your views through the ballot box. and i'm assuming if you support, just stop oil, you can vote green . but in fact, why don't green. but in fact, why don't just stop oil themselves? run candidates at the next election? well they won't, because if they did , they'd find out pretty did, they'd find out pretty quickly that they have precious little public support just stop. oil isn't a movement or a policy platform. it's a religion. it's a cult populated by a bunch of cults . it's so certain they have cults. it's so certain they have right on their side. they're happy to disrupt a marital union which has been ruined forever. how dare they take that away from this newlywed couple following a public backlash ? following a public backlash? they've said, oh, no, we were not responsible for this attack. but they proudly put the video on their twitter feed yesterday day and have not condemned the actions. that tells you everything you need to know. these thugs are dangerous .

these thugs are dangerous. they're happy to disrupt sport occasions which threatens the safety of the participants and the crowds involved . and they're the crowds involved. and they're happy to interrupt tournament to which many hard working brits have saved up for a long time to enjoy joy. they're happy to cause criminal damage and they're happy to glue themselves to the motorway, risking injury and death to others due to potential car accidents and stopping ambulances getting dangerously ill people to hospital . all well, they don't hospital. all well, they don't care because they have right on their side. when you're convinced you occupy the moral high ground with an emotional rather than practical worldview , the ends always justify the means. there is no greater tyranny than the zealous work of the righteous. this is a religious war. one that they must not win. because what do they want? well, they want to bankrupt the country by ending the use of fossil fuels immediately , which would kill immediately, which would kill our industry and bring about an

eye—watering explosion in energy prices. they clearly want us to give up our cars and give up our foreign holidays. they want us shivering in our homes every winter. they want us to have a carbon allowance, which means that if you exceed your monthly units acas, you'll have to wait till the next calendar month before switching on the kettle to make cup tea. how far to make a cup of tea. how far will they go? why not get rid of the fashion industry and have us dressed in a collective uniform? why not force all of us to go plant based and perhaps they'd like to take control of our bank accounts so that our expenditure is not focussed on goods which raise emissions? can you tell what this is yet? does it sound familiar? it is communism . 2.0 familiar? it is communism. 2.0 climate communism . communism, by climate communism. communism, by the way, a dangerous ideology that we thought we'd seen the back of last century . well back of last century. well folks, it is back like a bad case of chlamydia . and it's in case of chlamydia. and it's in the snake oil guys of saving the environment .

the snake oil guys of saving the environment. now i'm all for cleaning up the planets and getting those emissions down. but this is not the way to do it . and i've got to say, the opfics . and i've got to say, the optics of these guerrilla attacks are very dangerous. the actions of just stop oil will no doubt provide inspiration to evil terrorist groups like isis who may think, yeah, that's a goodidea. who may think, yeah, that's a good idea. i'll who may think, yeah, that's a good idea . i'll have who may think, yeah, that's a good idea. i'll have a who may think, yeah, that's a good idea . i'll have a piece of good idea. i'll have a piece of that. why can't just stop oil? go to china and campaign against their emissions which ours by an order of magnitude? i'll personally pay for their plane ticket to beijing and i'll watch with interest. how they are received by the chinese authorities . eyes on tiananmen authorities. eyes on tiananmen square . these middle class square. these middle class numpties have been getting away with their undemocratic and illegal actions for too long. all they've got on their side is hot air, storming a private wedding was a new low , so it's wedding was a new low, so it's time to say enough is enough. it's time to stop. just stop . it's time to stop. just stop. oil .

oil. now let's balance this. the bottom line is that just stop. oil will point out that the earth temperature is rising , earth temperature is rising, that there are floods around the world. there are forest fires, and that you will see massive migration millions of people migration of millions of people as they leave areas on the planet that are uninhabitable . planet that are uninhabitable. they would argue this is a climate emergency . dodi and the climate emergency. dodi and the government are moving to slowly. it's all about opinions. what is yours? mark gb news dot com. let's get reaction now from my top pundits this evening. delighted to welcome political commentator and the uk director of a group . i love the sound of of a group. i love the sound of the common sense society. emma webb , author, journalist and webb, author, journalist and broadcaster michael crick and former bbc chief political correspondent john sergeant. ladies and gentlemen, great to have you in the studio. emma webb this is a new low for me, a private occasion, a wedding , an private occasion, a wedding, an ex politician completely unaccepted . well, i think it's

unaccepted. well, i think it's completely disgraceful . completely disgraceful. >> and i think it shows that . i >> and i think it shows that. i mean, they have they have mean, they they have they have crossed the in crossed the line in a fundamental way. it's an unwritten rule that you don't disrupt people's private occasions like this . and i you occasions like this. and i you said it yourself in your monologue. you know, these people are zealots . they believe people are zealots. they believe that the ends justify the means . any apocalyptic . they think as any apocalyptic death cult would at the end of the world is nigh and they narcissistically believe that it is on them to save the world. and so, of course , you would do and so, of course, you would do anything putting people at risk . and i saw this myself in the responses i got for responses that i got for condemning this on twitter, people , well, it's not people saying, well, it's not just their cause, it's our cause. it's they're trying to save all of us. and this this is you know, this is this is zealotry, this is straightforward i straightforward zealotry. and i think that like george think that i don't like george osborne, but i think, you know, it's not just about him . it's not just about him. nobody's i've not seen anybody mention his wife in this. you know, she hasn't done anything to the most precious day to deserve the most precious day of being disrupted in of her life being disrupted in this they've ruined

this way. they've ruined a beautiful that beautiful memory for that couple. and i think it shows a real sort of moral deprivation even within this group. and it is, i think it is an all time low for them. and that is saying something. michael i'll just stop. >> oil would argue that this is a medical emergency. >> the majority of climate scientists believe there scientists believe that there is a fast . a problem. we must act fast. they will argue they are the new suffragette . it's your view. suffragette. it's your view. well, think that both of well, i just think that both of you are utterly ridiculous . you are utterly ridiculous. >> you're making a complete mountain molehill for mountain out of a molehill for a start. don't know. this was start. we don't know. this was just and they've just stop oil. and they've denied was done. the denied it. it was done. the whole the basis whole thing on the basis inspired wasn't it? >> was orange confetti >> well, it was orange confetti . they tweet out . yeah. they put the tweet out and they said, oh, the couple looked orange, but looked great in orange, but it doesn't don't know looked great in orange, but it doethem don't know looked great in orange, but it doethem , don't know looked great in orange, but it doethem , but don't know looked great in orange, but it doethem , but it don't know looked great in orange, but it doethem , but it doesn't: know m atter. >> matter. >> it's their day. absolute >> it's their day. it's absolute lutely absurd. look at the pictures. they smiling pictures. they were smiling with george and george osborne and thea rogers, the whole incident lasted about 10s it no more ruined their wedding than somebody brushing a champagne

glass off the sideboard . glass off the sideboard. michael, i believe they did not ruin their wedding. i was if i was george osborne, i was sorry i'd press charges for assault. >> what a it was a physical assault, assaulting somebody with confetti . with confetti. >> why? look, the >> why? look, what's the difference confetti , difference between confetti, eggs milkshake? you have eggs and milkshake? you have reached a low in your reached a new low in your absurdity on this. we on the one hand, you have probably the biggest problem facing mankind ever. biggest problem facing mankind ever . and you are complaining ever. and you are complaining about a few bits of confetti. it's bonkers . i do. i do it's bonkers. i do. i do consider it to be an assault, john. >> and you are always going on about free speech. >> free speech. i'll give way to john. you carry on another another hour and you'll have got across point. across your main point. >> , go, go on. course. >> no, go, go on. of course. i mean, look this . mean, look at this. >> the point of the show is we can tell why can disagree. but tell me why i've the i've gone bonkers. well, the point is that you have been going and weeks. going on for months and weeks. >> have going >> you know, have i been going on programme them on this programme about them obstructing the m25 and motorways people obstructing the m25 and motorwto; people obstructing the m25 and motorwto work people obstructing the m25 and motorwto work or people obstructing the m25 and motorwto work or to ople getting to work or going to hospitals? actually,

getting to work or going to hospitaigone actually, getting to work or going to hospitaigone and|ctually, getting to work or going to hospitaigone and donely, series they've gone and done a series of which much more they've gone and done a series of than which much more they've gone and done a series of than whicand much more they've gone and done a series of than whicand you're more they've gone and done a series of than whicand you're stills mild than that. and you're still whinging about it. it's important that we have this right? right if it was proper violence and so on, i would object. i wouldn't do it myself . but i admire these people and i think it's important that they keep this subject in the headlines. they've from headlines. they've moved from events individuals. headlines. they've moved from eveand individuals. headlines. they've moved from eveand that'sliduals. headlines. they've moved from eveand that's where. think >> and that's where i think it crosses michael crosses the line. michael is right that it was right to say, john, that it was in a sense, peaceful and it was good humoured and was not an good humoured and it was not an official stop stunt. official just stop oil stunt. >> it was somebody supporting the campaign . >> it was somebody supporting the campaign. but i >> it was somebody supporting the campaign . but i don't like the campaign. but i don't like setting the precedent of throwing people throwing things at people because was confetti because it was confetti yesterday. could yesterday. but it could be something far worse the something far worse in the future. i just it always future. now, i just it always annoys me when they get all this publicity. we used to be very careful >> we used to be very careful when i was a bbc reporter not to concentrate on events where people are clearly trying to get in front of a news camera in order to publicise their cause. >> that seems to have now gone completely . and the excitement completely. and the excitement with which people say the main story at wimbledon today was

that they rushed onto the pitch. and once you do that, you're almost saying, well, when's the next demo you know, so we're living in a sort of weird period for no good reason. a very important cause. climate change is as far as i'm concerned, wrecked by all this activity . wrecked by all this activity. see, you want much more serious discussion about how countries all over the world have to weave their way through these extraordinarily complicated problems , as some of them will problems, as some of them will come quite quickly. like we've seen these amazing events in the atmosphere where you you get extraordinary floods and you think, blimey, that really is climate change. now, there are other things which are long term where whole countries island countries, okay, but they feel themselves, countries will disappear below the waves . now disappear below the waves. now these things could not be more serious, but how have people throwing confetti about and not saying, oh, that's the big story ? i wish it wasn't like that. interesting. john sergeant thinks we're playing into their

hands hands and that these debates are counterproductive. hands hands and that these detwhatare counterproductive. hands hands and that these detwhat do counterproductive. hands hands and that these detwhat do yomterproductive. hands hands and that these detwhat do you think,ductive. hands hands and that these detwhat do you think, margaret ? >> what do you think, margaret? com will return com my pundits will return shortly, particularly contributing to this growing scandal at the bbc. that's the topic of the big story. next up, should the beeb name and state excuse me, i'll put my teeth back in. should the bbc name and shame this star? i'll be asking one of the country's most powerful showbiz agents. that is . next >> that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers , proud sponsors of boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there and greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast . well, it news weather forecast. well, it remains unsettled, low pressure in charge of our weather. remains unsettled, low pressure in charge of our weather . we'll in charge of our weather. we'll see showers and longer spells of rain over the coming days and it will little cooler as will turn a little cooler as well. we can see that area of low pressure just been set to the west of us, it does the west of us, but it does start push eastwards the start to push eastwards over the next increasing the next few days, increasing the risk of some longer spells of rain, heavy showers rain, some heavy showers continuing well. today's continuing as well. today's

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we move through into the early hothis rain will also be heavy.ie of this rain will also be heavy. so quite a lot of cloud around means temperatures again, holding up in mid teens to holding up in the mid teens to take us into tuesday morning, which will be a bit of an unsettled start to the day. showers longer spells of showers and longer spells of rain. but i'm hopeful as we move through day, we see through the day, we will see more in the way of sunny spells developing. but some developing. but again, some of the day on the showers through the day on tuesday could be heavy, perhaps more north tuesday could be heavy, perhaps more west north tuesday could be heavy, perhaps more west of north tuesday could be heavy, perhaps more west of the north tuesday could be heavy, perhaps more west of the uk north tuesday could be heavy, perhaps more west of the uk and rth and the west of the uk and temperatures under the cloud are a little disappointing for the time of year. staying unsettled over the next few days. further showers and temperatures around average . average. >> that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on

listening to gb news radio. >> a big response to my big opinion just stop oil have reached a new low by attacking a personal wedding. >> i think they assaulted the

former chancellor and his new bride, george osborne . and what bride, george osborne. and what do you think? mark gb news .com. how about this from karen ? good how about this from karen? good evening, mark. that was disappointing that this person had to do that at someone's wedding. i say turn the hose pipes on them. as for climate change, it's a load of. it's scaring people. all the ozone layer has got no mention . this layer has got no mention. this is the fault of the world economic forum, says karen 1976 was really hot. i was 11 years old. i'm now 56. well karen 56. i bet you . i bet you you look i bet you. i bet you you look about 20 more emails. mark at gb news .com from andy britain puts out 2% of the world's carbon if we fell into the sea tomorrow, it wouldn't make a difference . it wouldn't make a difference. catherine disgusting and not acceptable . what was done at acceptable. what was done at that wedding? that woman thought she was really special. she spoilt their important day. rich says, mark, i agree. we must stop these oil plebs. but i haven't got much sympathy for

osborne to be honest. although it was wrong , the only real way it was wrong, the only real way to stop these plonkers is to send them all on a flight to beijing free of charge with an endless supply glue . keep endless supply of glue. keep those emails coming. mark at gb news. com. it's time now for the big story. and there's really only one story in town, and that's the shocking allegation that's the shocking allegation that an unnamed bbc presenter, we're told a major household name paid a teenager thousands of pounds for explicit images. should the bbc name and shame this alleged star? and what are the implications for the reputation of our national broadcaster? let's get the views now of one of the most powerful showbiz agents in the country, professor jonathan shalit. obe. jonathan thank you so much for joining us. we know you're very busy you think busy tonight. when do you think we identity of we will discover the identity of this . in i would assume this person. in i would assume probably mid this coming week is my guess . my guess. >> mean, by the way , the whole >> mean, by the way, the whole industry that you work in knows who this person is. i use the

word person so as to give no further clue than that. yeah and i'm sure if you don't know most of your colleagues do at gb news, i certainly know. but it's not appropriate for us to mention his name in this interview . correct? interview. correct? >> indeed. so we must be judicious. we also have to remember that these are allegations, aren't they? you can't have trial by public opinion, trial by media. the person involved might well deny what's being said. jonathan what about the bbc itself? i mean, do you think that perhaps they should seize the initiative and actually name this person? we know they've reluctantly suspended the individual at the moment , the likes of jeremy vine moment, the likes of jeremy vine and gary lineker are being dragged into this. so should the beeb name and shame . beeb name and shame. >> i don't think it's as simple as should the beeb name and shame. >> i think that that same would apply to any employer. you can't just go and name and shame someone because an allegation is made, even if you know it's true. you've still got to go

through due process make sure through due process to make sure it's true and all the facts are correct. and i mean, clearly most people assume this is true. however, the individual concerned may have a defence none of us know about yet . so none of us know about yet. so i think the bbc are correct not to jump think the bbc are correct not to jump the gun and play to the gallery. it's also very for easy politicians to make big statements against the bbc, but from what i can see, tim davies acted very quickly. the sun started the story on friday, followed up on the saturday and over the a summer weekend, the bbc have acted and made sure the individual is suspended pending investigation. the working week haven't even begun and that happened today. haven't even begun and that happened today . so i think full happened today. so i think full credit for the bbc acting on a sunday. i also think from what i've read and remember, we're all based in this on we've all based in this on what we've read from the bbc. they read so far from the bbc. they did have this drawn to their attention back in may, but big broadcast actors get continual accusations against famous people from random people that

call up. and when people see who this individual is , people will this individual is, people will be in disbelief that this person has behaved this way because no one would have expected it. so when the received an when the bbc received an allegation that wasn't substantiated covid some weeks ago , i'm not sure they could ago, i'm not sure they could have done anything because you also have to remember what the individual is accused of is doing it in their own time at home, away from work. so absolutely , if you do something absolutely, if you do something in the office on office property, that's one set of rules. but stuff outside your work hours at home, you've got to be careful how a company judges people because many people behave differently at home with their private friends and their private life . they do and their private life. they do at work. and i'm not condoning it whatsoever because it anywhere whatsoever because clearly there's the whole possibility criminal charges possibility of criminal charges if the individual is indeed 17. again, we don't know . this if the individual is indeed 17. again, we don't know. this is all speculation. the press story. so there are two there are two issues now running . are two issues now running. there's inappropriateness of there's the inappropriateness of the and there's the the behaviour and there's the possible criminal action. >> indeed, you know as well as i

do, jonathan, things are do, jonathan, that things are very how were very different to how they were perhaps ago. when you perhaps 20 years ago. when you can control story like this . can control a story like this. now we've got internet. now we've got the internet. what's the point in keeping schtum on this person's identity if the whole of twitter knows well , absolutely. well, absolutely. >> well, first of all, people who name people on social media make themselves vulnerable . to make themselves vulnerable. to actions and they can be sued. >> i mean, there was an example. i can't remember that lady's name. everyone who's always out in the front attacking everybody who bankrupt she who went bankrupt because she named some people on twitter and, um , had a name, name, and, um, had a name, name, blanket or the name of the lady. but she's very well known . was but she's very well known. was it the was it the. >> i think it was the wife of the speaker, john bercow, wasn't it ? it? >> yeah, she certainly named people in a way she shouldn't . people in a way she shouldn't. >> but the point is , people on >> but the point is, people on social media should not be naming people, but they do . but naming people, but they do. but if you like, in your face media like the sun, the times , the like the sun, the times, the telegraph, the bbc, itv gb news

can't go around naming people because everybody else knows who it is. so that's just the way it is. but one can't blame the bbc for that . i mean, that's just for that. i mean, that's just you just don't name people until it's substantiated due it's substantiated and due process has been followed in the same way . if there was someone same way. if there was someone at gb news who had done something like this gb news wouldn't name that person until they'd process . they'd follow due process. >> now, jonathan , you are one of >> now, jonathan, you are one of the country's top talent managers. >> you're an entrepreneur as well , and you >> you're an entrepreneur as well, and you know about reputation , damage and branding reputation, damage and branding and all the rest of it. can we safely assume that this presenter's career will be over when their identity is revealed? if they're found to be guilty of this activity ? this activity? >> well, i think it's to say someone's career is over , as in someone's career is over, as in terminal . terminal. >> people do come back from bad moments. so absolutely in the short run, this person's career is over. and i and i doubt well, they certainly won't come back into the role they've had because they couldn't possibly

do that. and probably it is oven do that. and probably it is over. i mean , your older viewers over. i mean, your older viewers will remember years ago , so will remember years ago, so frank boff, who was a national institution, a much loved and did i think it was nationwide, he presented every evening and i can't actually remember what he did, but it was unacceptable. he came back from it. so he never came back from it. so this individual and i doubt he'll come back from it, but you never know . i think it's never know. i think it's a certain extent also depends if he broke the law. now people are saying he did at the moment. but again, we don't know. it's in the short run, certainly not. i think when people say it's a crisis of the bbc, it's not a crisis of the bbc, it's not a crisis of the bbc. one individual has behaved probably wrongly and that individual will lose their job. that's no suggestion. the bbc have behaved inappropriately or the bbc are at fault . the bbc employ tens of at fault. the bbc employ tens of thousands of people and within when you have that many employees , you're always going employees, you're always going to have a few that aren't going to have a few that aren't going to behave appropriately. >> jonathan, i've got >> jonathan, i've only got a couple seconds left. couple of seconds left. >> on scale of 1 to 10, how

>> on a scale of 1 to 10, how big is this story? just as a media bombshell? well, big is this story? just as a media bombshell ? well, well big is this story? just as a media bombshell? well, well, it's ten today, but two weeks time, it will be a two. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> well, a straight answer to a straight question. jonathan shalit, thank much for shalit, thank you so much for joining shalit, obe joining us. jonathan shalit, obe professor shalit , no professor jonathan shalit, no less, one of the country's top talent managers and agents. fascinating stuff. frank boff, do you remember him? what a talent . i tell you talent. well, i can tell you what he up was what he got up to. it was cocaine, and cocaine, prostitutes and irradiator. he was a man of appetites . now, listen. let's appetites. now, listen. let's get response from the bbc, our get a response from the bbc, our national broadcaster . they've national broadcaster. they've said the bbc takes any any allegation seriously. and we have internal processes have robust internal processes in place to proactively deal with such allegations . this is a with such allegations. this is a complex and fast moving set of circumstances. important circumstances. it's important that these matters are handled fairly and with care. well, we'll talk about the future of the bbc very shortly . but next the bbc very shortly. but next up, the pundits as he faces up, with the pundits as he faces by—election wipe—out has rishi sunak mojo or has he sunak lost his mojo or has he given up? also as a biological male wins a major female beauty contest in holland ? is this

contest in holland? is this wonderful progress or further proof that women are being erased? and as rumours abound that this morning stars alison hammond and dermot o'leary are at war, do you have to get on with your colleagues to be successful? well, i'm working with and james tonight and with greg and james tonight and ellen and think they're ellen and i think they're fab. see

listening to gb news radio. in about 20 minutes time. >> in my take at ten, my first on air reaction to a scandal thatis on air reaction to a scandal that is engulfing the national broadcaster, the bbc. but reacting to other stories in the day. my top pundits tonight , day. my top pundits tonight, political commentator and the uk director of the common sense society . see we need more of her society. see we need more of her ilk , emma webb, the walking ilk, emma webb, the walking embodiment of common sense . embodiment of common sense. author, journalist and broadcaster michael crick, and the very wise owl that is former bbc chief political correspondent . and let me add correspondent. and let me add former political editor of itn ulez john, sergeant john, which

was the better employer, the better itn? well, no , i was just better itn? well, no, i was just so pleased after a long career in the bbc that someone wanted me. >> well, listen. and they wanted you , and that's when you went stratospheric. >> so they phoned me up and they said, this conversation may last only two minutes. >> you like be >> would you like to be political itn? political editor of itn? and i thought, how wonderful. and i said, certainly would be said, i certainly would be interested that. well, interested in that. well, a very, very choice very, very, very wise choice they indeed . they made indeed. >> delighted have john, emma >> delighted to have john, emma and michael us. now, amid and michael with us. now, amid plunging ratings, plunging poll ratings, scepticism about whether he can achieve any of his five big pledges, including halving inflation and stopping the boats. times boats. and with the times newspaper that focus newspaper reporting that focus groups consider dead a groups consider him dead as a dodo , has rishi sunak given up dodo, has rishi sunak given up and effectively conceded defeat . has he lost his mojo? is there anything left in the tank? john sergeant , you? no, anything left in the tank? john sergeant, you? no, i think there's plenty for him at the moment. >> i think he'll probably be more effective in this role than leader of the opposition . and i leader of the opposition. and i think that's obviously what is agitate doing tory mps who now most of them expect they're

going to lose is now obviously there's quite a long time to go, but to have rishi as leader of the opposition and no have him as sort of he's the guy that knows things, he's the brainy one sitting at number 10 saying, i'm not in a rush to say this. let's try and get this right. he's more credible, i think, in that role so that i think the cause of the agitation because you can't get rid of him now , you can't get rid of him now, it's too late. they've shot their bolt with all sorts of possible parties they're in now for this. he is going to lead them into the next election unless something very strange happens. and that's why they're stupid. if they make too much of their discussion public. but does he look michael crick like he's given up the ghost slightly? >> i think there is an element of , you know, sort of tiredness of, you know, sort of tiredness and frustration . and frustration. >> he's been doing the job for nine months now. i think a bit of holiday over the summer will probably rejuvenate him and the party conference and so on. but three, losing three by

elections, which looks like happening , what, in 12 days time happening, what, in 12 days time is pretty bad. and you know, conservative mps announce their retirements. you know, there's another 2 or 3 every week. a lot of them very young, which is a really sign. then people really bad sign. then people going and looking for other going off and looking for other jobs. you know, seems to be jobs. you know, it seems to be more more tory mps more people, more tory mps working than working at gb news than the palace westminster. that's palace of westminster. that's true. there is a sense true. you know, there is a sense of decay and decline and he was, i think , stupid to make those i think, stupid to make those five promises last january . very five promises last january. very specific promises . and it looks specific promises. and it looks like none of them are going to be kept, you know, cutting the debt , you know, growth , be kept, you know, cutting the debt, you know, growth , stopping debt, you know, growth, stopping the boats , cutting health the boats, cutting health service waiting lists. i can't remember the fifth one, inflation, inflation. >> yeah. i mean, all of them are going wrong. >> it's going to be look dreadful there's a list of dreadful if there's a list of promises and he's he's failed to keep them okay well, moving keep them all. okay well, moving on biological male identifying >> a biological male identifying as has won a major dutch as female has won a major dutch beauty contest this weekend . beauty contest this weekend. ricky valerie cole made history

by becoming the first transgender woman to be crowned miss universe. netherlands 2023, at the afas theatre in loyston . at the afas theatre in loyston. she beat two biological women to scoop the top prize. so is this cause for celebration to demonstrate the progress that we're making in accepting trans people, or is it an example of women being cancelled? emma webb i think this is a gross insult to women and i think women feel that they're being displaced in sports , in advertising. sports, in advertising. >> if you remember dylan muller , even getting all of these big adverts , housing deals, seeing adverts, housing deals, seeing someone win, i think dylan mulvaney at one point modelled a sports bra aimed at women. >> he did. and i think, you know, really the winner of this competition is the runner up, which same in sports competitions. >> the biological woman who would have won otherwise . guys. would have won otherwise. guys. and you do have to ask yourself, why are they choosing and why are they choosing this particular person to win? and it's obviously for i presume, for political reasons , they want

for political reasons, they want to be seen to have done the progressive thing by giving the award to transgender model or transgender personality . see, transgender personality. see, and i think many women feel, you know, this this sits within a broader context of women feeling that their spaces are being threatened. there was only today there was a video circulating on twitter of somebody, i believe it was actually here in london at the one of these pride marches talking about punching terfs in the face, rallying the crowd to punch her. >> if you see if you see a terf, punch them in the face. >> well, and plus an expletive in there as well . in there as well. >> so i think women feel as if their spaces, their rights are being undermined . and at the being undermined. and at the same time, you see this, you know , i'm not in this particular know, i'm not in this particular case, but in lots of other cases as well . you see this kind of as well. you see this kind of caricaturing of what a woman is. and you see this with dylan, some people call it woman face, don't they, sort of with echoes of blackface .

of blackface. >> it's for women. it's an insulting stereotype of what it means to be a woman . means to be a woman. >> and i think that gives an all of the sort of virtue signalling that we're constantly barraged with that adds insult to injury. although michael , you could although michael, you could argue that trans gender people are some of the most victimised in society. >> this award yesterday is just important symbolism. it's not really going to make or break anyone's life, but just the opfics anyone's life, but just the optics of it whack of progress or have a flavour of progress. to many people. what do you think? well, i this award think? well, i think this award is news, providing it is jolly good news, providing it was made on genuine grounds that this trans woman was the most beautiful of the candidate. >> i haven't looked at the pictures. i'm who am i to judge pictures. i'm who am ito judge a beauty contest? if it was done for woke political reasons, then there's cause for concern. but it's not like sport. i mean, i agree that all sorts of injustices have been committed against women in sport by trans women because trans women have

they're stronger or they're bigger. many of the attributes that make them stronger sportspeople carry on, even though when they make the change, whereas i can't actually see what attributes of a man are going to make me look like a more beautiful woman. but maybe i'm being naive and wrong. i mean, let me tell you, i've probably legs. probably got great legs. >> michael . >> michael. >> michael. >> complex one. >> john it's a complex one. >> john it's a complex one. >> society's going to be >> i mean, society's going to be grappling this a long grappling with this for a long time it, now? time to come, isn't it, now? well, not. well, i hope not. >> we i hope we've >> no, i think we i hope we've sort passed in sort of passed peak trans in terms of i hope now people are getting more used to the idea, getting more used to the idea, get thinking of get genuinely thinking of themselves, what they think about it. and course the vast about it. and of course the vast majority people have no majority of people have no difficulty deciding what difficulty at all deciding what sex are, what biological sex they are, what biological sex they are, what biological sex they are, what biological sex they so i can't see how sex they are. so i can't see how in sort of ten years time will we still be going on and on about this. i do hope not. and of course, the frightening thing, one that frightens me most is the idea that people can't say what they think about this. right. and they're frightened of and possibly frightened of it and possibly lose account if they do.

>> yeah. and people with such skill, as, you know, in their own field like jk rowling, i mean she should mean the idea that she should that people should horrible that people should be horrible to her. >> yeah, she's probably she's the most successful british writer of all. you know, in recent years, probably since the war. i completely agree . war. i completely agree. >> and to have her cancelled. >> and to have her cancelled. >> oh, it's crazy. >> me tell you. >> let me tell you. >> let me tell you. >> she's one favourite >> she she's one of my favourite favourite women. no favourite sis women. okay. no i'm only joking. well folks, have we reached peak trans market gb news .com. coming up next, my mark meets guest is the author of a brand new book on misinformation . the problem is misinformation. the problem is who decides what is misinformation and as the results of our text poll come in, i will bring you the results of it. as a biological of it. as a major biological male wins a female contest in holland , is it progress or is it holland, is it progress or is it the erasure of women? don't forget my take at 10 in 15 minutes time well, which minutes time as well, in which i'll be dealing with a bbc mired in see you .

in two. welcome back to the show. we've been conducting an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll . we've been asking as .we've been asking as a biological male wins a female beauty contest in holland, is it an example of wonderful progress or are women being erased ? well, or are women being erased? well, the results are in. 96% say that women are being erased. 4% say it's progress. but while the folks it's just a few minutes now until i'll be dealing with the bbc, who are mired in crisis at 10:00. it's a bbc in crisis special, including a take at ten in which i'll be dealing with the national broadcaster. but it's the national broadcaster. but wsfime the national broadcaster. but it's time now for mark meets, in which biggest which i speak to the biggest names in the world of politics. showbiz sport, business and beyond. tonight the author of a brand called fool proof brand new book called fool proof why misinformation infects our minds and how to build immunity. it's author sander van der linden is the professor of social psychology in amsterdam

at the university of cambridge . at the university of cambridge. professor, thank you so much for joining us. congratulations on the release of the book. how would you define misinformation . yeah thanks so much for having me on. me on. >> me on. >> in the book, i define misinformation an that's either false or misleading. and in a more detailed kind of expert mandatory framework that comes with the book is a definition. it's slightly different from how most people use it. so most people look to the fact checkers or expert consensus and on what the science is on a given matter and that's fine. but we're particularly looking at the presence or absence of common manipulate techniques. so i define misinformation in more in terms of are there manipulation techniques present and can we help people recognise those regardless of source or intention and i know you're concerned about misinformation , concerned about misinformation, particularly for children and young people at university, and you're right to have worries.

>> there are some very strange websites out there and all the rest of it. the aims of your book laudable, the issue rest of it. the aims of your bcthe laudable, the issue rest of it. the aims of your bcthe gatekeepers the issue rest of it. the aims of your bcthe gatekeepers , the issue rest of it. the aims of your bcthe gatekeepers , isn't|e issue rest of it. the aims of your bcthe gatekeepers , isn't it?ssue is the gatekeepers, isn't it? who decides what is misinformation . yeah absolutely. misinformation. yeah absolutely. >> that's a big question . and i >> that's a big question. and i think the approach that we're advocating for is that instead of telling students what they need to believe , we want to need to believe, we want to empower them to spot these underlying techniques of propaganda. so let me give you an example. so, you know, instead of talking about immigration or or brexit or immigration or or or brexit or the economy or the nhs , we're the economy or the nhs, we're talking about things like false dichotomies scape goating people polarising headlines, conspiracy theories, the use of emotions to influence us. and so what we want to do is, is give students a little dose of what it's like to use these manipulation techniques as a way to sort of inoculate them at and to give you a concrete example . so, you a concrete example. so, mark, i'm not sure. are you familiar with star wars? so yeah

, a little bit, yeah. this is great. clip from revenge of the sith that we show where anakin skywalker talks to obi—wan kenobiand skywalker talks to obi—wan kenobi and says, you know , kenobi and says, you know, you're either with me or you're my enemy . and so obi—wan replies my enemy. and so obi—wan replies and says, only a sith deals in absolutes . and then we show absolutes. and then we show people, politicians making use of false dichotomies and we find people people become more aware of that. and so that's really our definition an not telling people believe to people what to believe but to help think help them. spot yeah, i think that's great sort of tools with which to process the information that's around us. >> that's a great thing. that's around us. >know that's a great thing. that's around us. >know thooka great thing. that's around us. >know thooka greeto hing. that's around us. >know thooka greeto do g. i know your book aims to do that. there is the story of alex berenson. i don't know if you're aware of guy. aware of this guy. he's a journalist was journalist who was was considered a bit of an anti—vaxxer during the pandemic , and he was actually suspended by twitter. he lost his account permanently from twitter and he took twitter to court and he was able to demonstrate that he had simply been shared using official government data for on issues around the vaccine . and

issues around the vaccine. and had his had his account rhiannon updated. so do you think that at times the tech giants have overplayed their hand when it comes to tackling so—called misinformed action? >> yeah, well, i think, you know, when it comes to some of these measures, censorship is obviously an issue that that we need to consider. i mean, of course, trump himself was the platform removed from from twitter . yeah. and what's the twitter. yeah. and what's the consequence of shutting down the debate ? i think i worry debate? i think i worry sometimes that it leads to further fragmentation of our social media environment. so people start their own social media channel and then we have different echo chambers and different echo chambers and different narratives and people stop talking to each other. and so i think that definitely so i think that is definitely problematic and we work with social media companies and i should say that because, you know, i talk about it in the to book try to empower people at the individual soul level to spot these techniques so that , spot these techniques so that, you know, we don't always have to resort to what might be

perceived by some as overreach or controlled to some extent. but i will say that i don't want these techniques that we're developing to be used as an excuse not to do the harder things. sometimes i think you can agree that, you know, sometimes there are things that are crossing the line are that are crossing the line and that you know. professor, sorry to interrupt you. >> only because the clock is against us. it looks be against us. it looks to be a fascinating read. it's called foolproof. why misinform ation affects foolproof. why misinformation affects our minds and how to build immunity by professor sander der linden . thank sander van der linden. thank you, we'll speak at you, sander. we'll speak at greater in the near greater length in the near future. sure the will future. i'm sure the book will be it's a very, be a great success. it's a very, very topic and very interesting topic and you've it a lot of you've clearly given it a lot of thought folks, my at thought. folks, in my take at ten, i'll be dealing with the bbc mired in a sex bbc who are mired in a sex scandal. next. scandal. that's next. >> the temperatures rising, boxed solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there and greg dewhurst. >> and welcome to your latest gb

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exactly 1030 sharp . exactly 1030 sharp. >> yes, indeed . >> yes, indeed. >> yes, indeed. >> a bbc in crisis special that takes ten is coming in just a moment. i'm not pulling my punches. i will be dealing with a broadcaster that you and a state broadcaster that you and ihave a state broadcaster that you and i have pay for on pain of i have to pay for on pain of punishment. if we don't. also, let me tell you, we've got reaction live in the studio from two icons of the bbc, michael crick and john sergeant. so lots to get through . a busy hour to to get through. a busy hour to come. you won't want to miss it. and knows what surprises lie and who knows what surprises lie ahead. first, the headlines with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> mark, thank you very much. and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom. the met police has confirmed it's received initial contact from the bbc over claims a male presenter paid a teenager for sexually explicit images , but sexually explicit images, but that no formal referral or

allegation has been made . it's allegation has been made. it's also said we will require additional information before determining what further action should follow the young person's mother told the sun she saw a photo of the man in his underwear on her child's phone. the director general, tim davie, has confirmed the bbc was aware of a complaint in may and has been investigating the case ever since. in a statement, he also condemned the unsubstantiated rumours being made on the internet about some of the corporations presenting talent . corporations presenting talent. well, us president has arrived at london stansted airport on air force one ahead of his meetings with prime minister rishi sunak and the king. tomorrow these are live pictures. joe biden will meet the king at windsor castle before holding talks at downing street . he's expected to raise street. he's expected to raise concerns about brexit and america's decision to send cluster munitions to ukraine. well, joe biden's visit comes

ahead of the nato summit in lithuania, where the prime minister will urge allies to bolster their defence spending. speaking on tuesday, rishi sunak is expected to say we're seeing unprecedented security challenges. the uk remains one of the few nato members meeting the alliance's requirement to spend at least 2% of national income on defence. a second child has died after a car crashed into a primary school in wimbledon on thursday . she has wimbledon on thursday. she has been named as eight year old nuna been named as eight year old nuria sajjad . her family has nuria sajjad. her family has paid tribute to her, saying she was the light of our lives . she was the light of our lives. she embodied joy, kindness and generosity on thursday, it was confirmed that another eight year old selena law had died as a result of her injuries. the driver of the car , a 46 year old driver of the car, a 46 year old woman, has been bailed until late july. she was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving after the incident . more than a thousand

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my to mark dolan tonight. my thanks to tatiana sanchez. >> welcome to a very special mark dolan tonight in a huge developing story, the bbc has suspended one of their top presenters , we're told, a major presenters, we're told, a major household name and are calling in the police over allegations means a teenager was paid by the star for explicit images. let me stress at this point, they are allegations only. welcome to a bbc in crisis special, including my take at ten and my verdict on this media bombshell story and the threat it now poses to our national state broadcaster. don't forget, mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 sharp. there's only one story in town, and it is the bbc mired in a sex scandal. plus, my top pundits will be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes. who better to debate the big stories of the day and to help us with this bbc in crisis special, the two legends of the bbc, john

sergeant and michael crick , plus sergeant and michael crick, plus the brilliant journalist emma webb . big stories, big guests webb. big stories, big guests and always big opinions will start with my take . at ten. start with my take. at ten. >> the bbc is on the edge of a crisis that could make the phillip schofield saga look like a mere footnote in broadcast history. >> the mother of this teenager allegedly paid by a bbc star for explicit pictures. we're told, pleaded with the organisation . pleaded with the organisation. on may the 19th to take this presenter off air and to stop him doing what could be eventually found to be by police. a vile crime . the poor police. a vile crime. the poor teenagerin police. a vile crime. the poor teenager in question may have been 17, but under the protection of children act 1978, it is an offence to make distribute , possess or show any distribute, possess or show any indecent images of anyone under 18. even with consent. it's also a criminal offence to ask a child under 18 to send a sexual

image of themselves, causing or inciting sexual exploitation of a child carries a maximum penalty of 14 years in prison . penalty of 14 years in prison. so whatever show this presenter is famous for his next appearance could be on another bbc programme, crimewatch . have bbc programme, crimewatch. have the bbc learnt nothing from the horrors of the jemmy savile scandal? arguably britain's worst, some of whose horrific crimes were committed on bbc property and his status as a bbc star gave him the power and authority to evade justice. for so long. the bbc newsnight show at the time were going to run a troubling investigation about savile's behaviour , but it was savile's behaviour, but it was pulled by the broadcaster because they were planning a tribute to the bejewelled tracksuit wearing monster at the time. like the roman catholic church and the paedophilia scandal that they suffered , the scandal that they suffered, the bbc moved fast to protect its own and turned a blind eye for years . well, there are worrying years. well, there are worrying echoes of savile here with the

alleged star depher not only receiving his salary rather than facing suspension, which they've now finally done, but with the mirror reporting that he partied with bbc bosses at a posh award ceremony weeks after the complaint was made by this desperate mother, the mail newspaper reported. the presenter is on a six figure salary. well, that's not surprising . they all are. the surprising. they all are. the fact that this individual could find the eye—watering sum of £35,000 to fulfil his alleged sick fantasies shows how wildly overpaid some of these presenters are and how brazen, fearless and untouchable so many of them feel . the arrogance of of them feel. the arrogance of a well known bbc star allegedly expose himself metaphorically, and we're told, literally shows the growing chasm between ordinary people who have to follow the law and behave themselves and state funded superstars who think they can do what the hell they like . i don't what the hell they like. i don't care about the presenter when

his or her identity is revealed, it's career over . his or her identity is revealed, it's career over. but his or her identity is revealed, it's career over . but the his or her identity is revealed, it's career over. but the damage to the beeb itself is potentially limitless. the behaviour of this presenter reflects the state broadcaster's lofty status as management at presenters and producers. luxury state in the ivory tower of broadcast house and tv centre , broadcast house and tv centre, bankrolled to the tune of billions by hard pressed grannies who face jail if they don't cough up £159. it's my view that the bbc must name this individual as a matter of urgency because at the moment it's very unfair that innocent people in the public eye are being linked wrongly to this story . so let's confirm i'm story. so let's confirm i'm delighted to say that rylan clark, jeremy vine and gary lineker are entirely innocent , lineker are entirely innocent, andifs lineker are entirely innocent, and it's a disgrace that they were dragged into this in the first place. the only thing those boys are guilty of is crimes against television . and crimes against television. and let's not forget at the heart of this is a human being. and i don't mean a privileged

presenter popping one out on his ipad. i mean, this teenager whose mother has said was using the money to fund a spiralling crack cocaine addiction in a sense , we as licence fee payers sense, we as licence fee payers bankrolled the purchase of those drugs. this mum told the sun on sunday the following she said we just wanted the bbc to tell him to stop up. i've had three years of hell. the impact of this has been terrifying in my mind. that man was supplying the crack . my man was supplying the crack. my child wouldn't have accessed to this money if it wasn't for him . if it goes on, then my child is going to wind up dead. . if it goes on, then my child is going to wind up dead . my kid is going to wind up dead. my kid went from a happy go lucky youngster to a ghost like crack addict in just three years, this is a scandal of epic proportions which threatens not just the career of a famous unnamed star, but the future of our national broadcaster altogether. this a presenter, will likely go on

trial, but the bbc will face judgement day to . judgement day to. >> now look, let's get to what the beeb have got to say on this. >> the beeb takes any allegation as seriously and we have robust internal processes in place to proactively deal with such allegations . they go on to say allegations. they go on to say this is a complex and fast moving set of circumstances. the bbc is working as quickly as possible to establish the facts in to order properly inform appropriate next steps. it's important that these matters are handled fairly and with care so we can confirm a male member of staff has been suspended. i said he or she just to be on the safe side. but looks like the bbc side. but it looks like the bbc can is a male talent can confirm it is a male talent at the bbc. the bbc first became aware, they say, of a complaint in may. new allegations were put to us on thursday of a different nature . and in addition to our nature. and in addition to our own enquiries, we've also been in touch with external authorities with authorities in line with our protocols. listen the bottom line is that we don't have the

details, we? we do not know details, do we? we do not know the veracity of the claims being made by this mother. we do not know the victim. and there know about the victim. and there alleged or otherwise drug habit . we don't know whether this presenter or this star is guilty or not. but the bottom line is that it raises major questions. it raises more questions than it answers. should the beeb reveal the name of this individual, particularly given that innocent folk like gary lineker and jeremy vine are being dragged into very unfairly ? what do into this very unfairly? what do you news .com you think? margaret gb news .com . let's reaction from . let's get reaction now from the brilliant political commentator emma webb and two former bbc stars , michael crick, former bbc stars, michael crick, who made brilliant contributions to the newsnight programme, amongst others , and the former amongst others, and the former chief political correspondent of the bbc, john sergeant. john, your reaction to this story ? your reaction to this story? well, of course, these are very serious allegations. >> the whole thing could be the more we hear about it, it may just get worse and worse. we simply don't know. i think

what's interesting or should interest the public is the way the bbc handle tells the story in great detail and raising all the questions that people want, answers to. you know, when did it happen? why did it take so long and so now that is that long and so on. now that is that is very impressive way is that is a very impressive way for a news organisation to report on its own embarrassing interludes. and this is very embarrassing for the bbc and very difficult to handle because of course people want to know who is this person. the bbc is probably right to say at this point it's going to be very difficult, but the sun newspaper presumably knows who at least is meant to be this person who at least is alleged to have carried out these things. so as often happens is when you get a big story like this checked , ask story like this checked, ask yourself this question how many more elements of the story of the sun got which they're going to feed out over time? and should the bbc have got to be very careful if they don't get caughtin very careful if they don't get caught in that ? because in fact, caught in that? because in fact, in many ways , the sun is in

in many ways, the sun is in control at the moment . indeed. control at the moment. indeed. >> so, michael crick, you're a seasoned hack and a former bbc employee . how long do you think employee. how long do you think it will take for the identit city of this individual to be revealed ? revealed? >> well, i suspect it will only take a day or two. i must say i do. i do dislike the relish really , and the sort of with really, and the sort of with which you have used this story, to mark, attack the bbc and by implication in the reputation is not just of one person but of all presenters and reporters . all presenters and reporters. that was the implication of what you said . and you know, you are you said. and you know, you are a presenter with a rival broadcaster trying to establish yourselves and i think, you know, the implications of this would only happen in the bbc is absurd and seen problems absurd. and we've seen problems in recently, and i'm sure in itv recently, and i'm sure there people here at gb news there are people here at gb news whose are less than whose lives are less than perfect. this story at the perfect. now, this story at the moment we've only got fragments of i mean, you know, it of it. i mean, you know, it doesn't add up in a way. i mean, £35,000 for a series of photos

does seem to me an extraordinary sum of money. there must be more to this . and i think the impact to this. and i think the impact it's going to have on the bbc could be extremely serious indeed , particularly if it turns indeed, particularly if it turns out that the person involved is a, you know, a journalist , a, you know, a journalist, somebody from news or current affairs . i mean, if it's a sort affairs. i mean, if it's a sort of regional presenter or, you know, somebody in sport or something, i think that's slightly less the impact of that is rather less . and then of is rather less. and then of course, there's the whole story of if what did the bbc know and what did they do about it ? and what did they do about it? and of that has been a of course that has been a problem in the past, not just with story, with the jimmy saville story, which cited, but which you rightly cited, but also, of course, the whole of the martin bashir story, where again , there suspicions and again, there were suspicions and they followed up. you again, there were suspicions and they the followed up. you again, there were suspicions and they the martinywed up. you again, there were suspicions and they the martin bashir). you again, there were suspicions and they the martin bashir diana know, the martin bashir diana interview story. so an other big, big problem , and to be big, big problem, and to be honest is michael crick , right? honest is michael crick, right? >> am i attacking the bbc unfairly here? perhaps prematurely. so. well i haven't

the foggiest how all of these pieces fit together, and i have no clue who this person might be. >> but i do think it's fair to point out that in the broader scheme of things , we are seeing scheme of things, we are seeing a serious decline in the public's trust of our great institutions. and as a as a small c conservative, i'm naturally inclined to love our institutions and i want them to flourish. however we're seeing this decline in trust with the police, with politics, and also with the bbc. and i think that, you know, this is only going to add to that increasing sentiment of distrust and a feeling of a loss of ownership, i think over the bbc distancing the public from a that was once, i think , a from a that was once, i think, a great institution. so no, mark, i don't think that you're being unfair. i think that there will be a lot of people around the country agree you. be a lot of people around the count what agree you. be a lot of people around the count what do gree you. be a lot of people around the count what do you you. be a lot of people around the count what do you think?)u. well, what do you think? >> michael crick have a >> does michael crick have a point? being used point? is this story being used to unfairly , given to bash the bbc unfairly, given it have the it may just have been the

actions individual? let actions of one individual? let me margaret gb news .com . me know. margaret gb news .com. we've the papers 1030 me know. margaret gb news .com. we've next1e papers 1030 me know. margaret gb news .com. we've next up3apers 1030 me know. margaret gb news .com. we've next up ,apers 1030 me know. margaret gb news .com. we've next up , should 1030 me know. margaret gb news .com. we've next up , should the 0 sharp. next up, should the government step in and do more to control the culture at broadcasters like the bbc and itv ? i'll be asking former itv? i'll be asking former government minister. tonight's newsmaker, as always, ann widdecombe . we'll get ann's widdecombe. we'll get ann's reaction to this explosive adding scandal. but producer greg is in my ear and he tells me that there is a big headline in tomorrow's sun newspaper and that's next. >> a brighter outlook with boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. hello there. on. gb news. hello there. >> i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. well, it remains unsettled . low pressure in unsettled. low pressure in charge of our weather. we'll see showers and longer spells of rain over the coming days and it will turn a little cooler as well. and we can see that area of low pressure just been set to the us. but does the west of us. but it does start push eastwards over the start to push eastwards over the next days, increasing the

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minutes time. >> we've got all of tomorrow's front pages. it's the only story in town. reaction from in town. we'll get reaction from bbc bbc stars john bbc former bbc stars john sergeant and michael crick. but what the sun? tomorrow what about the sun? tomorrow take look this. the sun take a look at this. the sun newspaper, monday's panicked newspaper, monday's sun panicked top beeb presenter, bbc presenter suspended bbc man's panic call to youngster. presenter suspended bbc man's panic call to youngster . the panic call to youngster. the presenter, who was suspended today allegedly rang his alleged victim last week asking what have you done? more on that at 1030. but let's get reaction now from tonight's newsmaker best selling author, former government minister and television personality, ann widdecombe. and great to have you on the show. what are the potential implications for the bbc this story ? bbc in this story? >> well, first of all, let me say that i do share some of michael crick's reservations , michael crick's reservations, which were expressed earlier . which were expressed earlier. >> you know, yes, you did make a great point at the end of saying these were only allegations, but you had actually let slip that you had actually let slip that you thought him a. >> now, we don't know that . we >> now, we don't know that. we don't know that at the moment. it's be until

it's got to be innocent until proved guilty . and that puts the proved guilty. and that puts the bbc in a very difficult position. >> and i don't understand why it's taken them all this time to call in the police, quite honestly, because that seems to me they could have handed the responsibility over to the law enforcement agency fairly early on. >> on. >> don't understand why the seven week gap now, there may be reasons for it. seven week gap now, there may be reasons for it . there may be reasons for it. there may be that there are things they want to check. it is an extra ordinary story. >> i don't know why they've done this, but it if what then happenedis this, but it if what then happened is that this man is named and i would expect that also to happen fairly in fairly short order now that when the man is named if what then happens is that it is shown that there was a cause for concern and that the allegations start turned up, then i think the beeb is in big trouble. >> simply because it took so long. if, on the other hand, the allegations don't stand up, the

beeb will be able to say , well, beeb will be able to say, well, there are, you know, we had there you are, you know, we had our along. so i think our doubts all along. so i think it really depends the outcome it really depends on the outcome . but thing with the jimmy . but the thing with the jimmy saville case was to many of them knew what was going on. they knew what was going on. they knew what was going on with the martin bashir case, exactly the same thing. they knew that there were allegations of forged bank statements. i mean, they haven't. how much more serious can you get ? they knew that an can you get? they knew that an ad, yet they did nothing. and i think the same thing goes with this story of this individual partying bbc bosses. if partying with bbc bosses. if indeed that happened . now, i can indeed that happened. now, i can understand why they hadn't named him and they were carrying on investigating. you'd think investigating. but you'd think that self preservation that in basic self preservation alone, the bbc would have said, don't come to this party. you a keep a low profile. apparently they didn't an absolutely fair. >> what you've had to say about my take at ten it's certainly all about opinions. >> that's what this show represents. and you're absolutely are absolutely right. you are innocent until proven guilty. absolutely right. you are innyofent until proven guilty. absolutely right. you are

innyof this ntil proven guilty. absolutely right. you are innyof this could oven guilty. absolutely right. you are innyof this could disappear(. absolutely right. you are innyof this could disappear like all of this could disappear like a puff of smoke , but it may not a puff of smoke, but it may not to defend the bbc, they have said that they first became aware of a complaint in may, but new allegations were put to them on thursday . they either way, do on thursday. they either way, do you think the government should have another look at the culture of the nation state broadcaster into how they handle complaints of this nature going forward ? of this nature going forward? >> i'm not sure the government has much of a reputation for handung has much of a reputation for handling complaints, handling complaints itself. >> quite honestly . so i'm not >> quite honestly. so i'm not sure that that would carry too much credibility. certainly they need to look at the funding model for the bbc. i've no doubt about that. certainly they need to a beady eye impartial to keep a beady eye on impartial reality. i think davie is reality. i think tim davie is probably his that probably doing his best on that one, it's not wholly one, but it's not wholly achieved at and there are things that the government needs to do. but it needs to concern but whether it needs to concern itself in the handling of complaints, unless there is in that handling, as i think there probably was in the jimmy

saville case, you know, an implication of inappropriate behaviour on the part of the bbc in as much as it knew, but did nothing , that i think they can nothing, that i think they can be legitimate be concerned about, but not how complaints are handled. they have no reputation themselves for doing that. so. that. indeed so. >> and if this story does blow up and plays out very badly for the alleged individual and the organisation , then could it organisation, then could it threaten the future of the licence fee? could it essentially sort of, you know , essentially sort of, you know, remove and dilute the credibility of this annual tax? we've all got to pay? do you think people will say, look, the bbc, look how some of their stars behave, why should i pay this ? this? >> oh, i think , you know, there >> oh, i think, you know, there is an incremental effect here. >> and every time something like this happens and something much less happens , less serious than this happens, it all the more it makes people all the more resentful of the bbc licence fee and of the way the bbc carries on. nobody now thinks of it, you know, as an institution of total

impartiality and trustworthiness and all the things that it used to be once and nobody thinks of it like that anymore. and then there is, of course, the straw that breaks the camel's back . that breaks the camel's back. this may it, or there may be this may be it, or there may be one in the future, but one lurking in the future, but the will they'll the time will come when they'll just mass rebellion and just be a mass rebellion and people will say, enough . and people will say, enough. and then in government at then whoever's in government at then whoever's in government at the has got to deal with the time has got to deal with that. whitaker we had longer. >> i look forward catching >> i look forward to catching up with week's time. our with you in a week's time. our sunday newsmaker, the sunday night newsmaker, the formidable keep sunday night newsmaker, the formi(opinions keep sunday night newsmaker, the formi(opinions coming. keep sunday night newsmaker, the formi(opinions coming. by keep sunday night newsmaker, the formi(opinions coming. by thep those opinions coming. by the way. your reaction to this developing story, mark, at cbnnews.com. a mark dolan cbnnews.com. it's a mark dolan tonight. bbc in crisis special. and we've got tomorrow's front pages next. won't want to pages next. you won't want to miss

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let's go. >> there is only one story in town. >> it is a bombshell media story that makes the schofield saga look like a footnote in broadcast history. we'll start with the metro bbc briefs crisis star suspended over £35,000. sex pics. family claim he posted a image of himself in underpants as mps. seven week delay not good enough. england keep ashes alive fans joy as aussies total is chased down in headingley headingley thriller financial times nato allies pile pressure on germany and us over kyiv. times nato allies pile pressure on germany and us over kyiv . the on germany and us over kyiv. the bbc in crisis as police called in over star accused of teen sex scandal . the guardian the secret scandal. the guardian the secret stakes held by mps in top uk firms is a guardian exclusive . firms is a guardian exclusive. more than 50 mps have owned

stakes in publicly listed companies that raised questions about possible conflicts of interest at and that have now until now. i should say, been secret. effectively the guardian have revealed all in what is, i've got to say, a very compelling and important piece of journalism. rachel reeves, future chancellor of the exchequer, perhaps i'm a worrier and a geek too. quite good qualifications for chancellor. i think we can all agree also bbc to talk to police as star presenter suspended and the sun who are very much leading on this story. exclusive stars sex pic shame suspended bbc man's panic call to youngster. the bbc star accused of paying a teenager for sex images made a panicked call. the sun alleged as to their alleged victim after the sun revealed these bombshell claims, the presenter , who was claims, the presenter, who was suspended earlier today , suspended earlier today, allegedly rang last week asking, what have you done ? it's also what have you done? it's also claimed he asked the youngster

to ring their mum to get her to, quote, stop up the investigation . now, these are just allegations at this stage , but allegations at this stage, but it's quite explosive . reporting it's quite explosive. reporting from the sun dame express corporation in turmoil over disturbing claims against household name bbc suspends star accused of paying teen for photos . an aide the mail the photos. an aide the mail the agony and the ecstasy. the agony. katie and her boyfriend crash out of wimbledon. the ecstasy thrilling test win keeps england's ashes hopes alive of also now bbc calls in police over sex pictures claim and just the most dreadful and appalling and a tragic story on the front page of the mail. she was the light of our lives. a second pupil, aged eight, dies after that awful tea party crash late last week . now let's get last week. now let's get reaction to the big stories of the day. and it's dominated by

the day. and it's dominated by the bbc in meltdown. a sex scandal which threatens to engulf the broadcaster. i'm delighted to welcome political commentator emma webb , author, commentator emma webb, author, journalist and broadcaster and former bbc reporter michael crick, and the ex chief political correspondent of the bbc and the former political editor of itn, john, sergeant, there you go. well, look, it's unavoidable, this story. michael crick , bbc in crisis as police crick, bbc in crisis as police called in over star accused of teen sex scandal the eye the sun going a little further with the allegations given that this suspended star called his alleged victim in the last few days with a question, what have you done ? you done? >> yeah, i mean, that is the i think the one big development in these headlines and from what we were talking about a few days, a few moments ago before and the i think , you know, the sun is think, you know, the sun is going to string this along, aren't they, for a day or two or

maybe all week . maybe all week. >> and but i think it's inevitable that they or someone will will will name the person involved. and you and you were asking earlier whether the bbc should come out and say who this presenter is. i think, you know, we've got to we've got to respect natural justice and the thoughts of people being innocent until they're proven guilty. here and particularly there's long been a rule with when it comes to sex offences , when it comes to sex offences, which is potentially what we're talking about here, that you don't name name perpetrators at at an early stage in the same way you don't name victims either for sure. >> that's right. and trial by media. yeah. i mean, it's a massive conundrum for the bbc, isn't it? a huge dilemma. whatever they do, they're if they do, if they don't. emma well, it's going to be an interesting couple of days , interesting couple of days, particularly for the sun . particularly for the sun. >> i just think, you know, with the, as you were saying, i it is

a tricky one and i do think that particularly with sex offences because people it's not just trial by media, it's that these allegations stick around. even if somebody is found out to be innocent. yes. and so you have to be responsible. and when you choose to name someone on the other hand, if i were the bbc, i would be looking at the next couple of days of reporting, particularly from the sun, thinking, well, maybe the best thing do would just be to thing to do would just be to burst and it over burst the bubble and get it over with . my tend to err on the with. my i tend to err on the side of not mentioning who this person is until they've got more advanced in their investigations . but then it seems that these allegations were made in may and the bbc really should have got themselves pulled together a bit quicker than this. and i think that for many people will be the biggest of scandal. biggest part of the scandal. now, by the now, it's been mentioned by the beeb, john, that the new information to light on information came to the light on thursday, were more thursday, which were more serious, of serious, different nature of allegations , but perhaps we can allegations, but perhaps we can defend the bbc here and say that the complaint made in may well, that might not be unusual for

them approached about them to be approached about various talents and producers. >> yes, i mean, obviously , we >> yes, i mean, obviously, we don't know the nature of it. >> i mean, it's quite difficult don't know the nature of it. >>sortiean, it's quite difficult don't know the nature of it. >>sort ofn, it's quite difficult don't know the nature of it. >> sort of speculatee difficult don't know the nature of it. >> sort of speculatee diffi

case of what is this strange story ? how did it start? who was story? how did it start? who was involved? is there money involved? is there money involved in some strange way? why this large sum of money, as michael raised that point so to do all that, to then say if we if we could name the person , all if we could name the person, all this would come rushing out . all this would come rushing out. all sorts of people would then say, oh , right, because actually i oh, right, because actually i did see him that night or this or i knew that or i heard that you you are you lose an enormous amount of potential treasure of evidence if you don't if you have no idea who the person is, that's all. if you're the police thinking how can we progress this, it tends to lance the boil. >> if you name if you name the suspect. >> but on the other hand, on the other hand, this could be mischief making it could. >> the bbc must get allegation ins of all sorts. sure, sure . ins of all sorts. sure, sure. well, that was my point earlier. i mean, i'm probably hundreds of allegations against you and me. probably hundreds. >> there might >> and also, there might have been certainly not. >> no, m were true . >> no, they were true. >> no, they were true. >> sorry, wasn't. no, i'm

>> no, sorry, it wasn't. no, i'm being frivolous. but the being too frivolous. but the other point is this, that the bbc, as an employer , bbc, as an employer, particularly if this is a staff member, has a duty of care to their employee who must be going through hell right now and who who may well deny the allegations. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> well, it's harder for them to deny the allegations if the sun story is correct. >> right . well, let's talk about >> right. well, let's talk about who made the panicked call to the involved. the youngster involved. we don't know it's a boy or a know whether it's a boy or a girl, teenager. it's girl, teenager. well, it's interesting, because what interesting, emma, because what we're hearing that the police we're hearing is that the police have contact have received initial contact from bbc, but they haven't from the bbc, but they haven't actually offered any allegations to the at this stage . to the police at this stage. >> so it's still a grey area. i mean, the sun have great pedigree in reporting these kinds of stories, reading between the lines. do you agree with john that you think they've got a lot of information about this pinning this and that they're pinning their mast ? it their colours to the mast? it certainly like it. certainly looks like it. >> think we can we can >> and i think we can we can debate whether or not it's right to the person but to name the person or not, but we're going find out we're probably going to find out even the 24 hours. even maybe in the next 24 hours. it's to be easy to

it's not going to be easy to keep this kind of thing canned for so you know, for very long. so you know, i think we'll i think we'll find out who allegations are out who these allegations are against in in no amount of time at all. but yeah, i mean, it looks as if the sun has some kind of privileged access . so if kind of privileged access. so if the bbc allow this , as you're the bbc allow this, as you're saying, lancing the boil, i think maybe from their perspective it might be best to not allow this to fester because as the 24 as we've seen over the last 24 hours, there been lots of hours, there have been lots of people have been dragged people who have been dragged into yeah, into this unfairly. yeah, i mean, this is what john said. >> go. go on, go on. >>— >> go. go on, go on. >> it may be that the sun has has signed this person up, has has signed this person up, although no money has apparently has been paid to the mother and that the bbc don't have direct access to the to the mother and therefore anything they know is coming through . coming through. >> reading the sun , even though >> reading the sun, even though i mean, this mother is meant to have made a complaint to the bbc, but was that made through the sun? was it made? and, you know, the actually in know, is the bbc actually in direct contact with the mother or not that has all the that may

well be why the bbc has found it difficult pursue difficult to pursue and difficult to pursue and difficult to pursue and difficult to give concrete evidence to the police. i think the other important point is, is that in a case like this, all the newspapers are going for it. >> anyone who's got any real information will be able to sell it. i mean, that's, you know, wonderfully thought, oh, no, it's my public duty. the people should be. no, no. people were just thinking, right, i can just thinking, all right, i can make bit of money out of this make a bit of money out of this so very quickly become so it can very quickly become extraordinarily complicated. who is saying what? are they in a position to know that what are the allegations? if you knew what the allegations were in detail ? well, and you sell detail? well, and you could sell the story to the sun or to anywhere to the mail, the anywhere else to the mail, the sun knows probably . sun already knows probably. well, money in that. i well, there's money in that. i mean, so the whole thing is very febrile. it's not isn't febrile. it's not this isn't sort of this is not due process . this is due shambles. this is due . people racing around due. people racing around saying, what lines have you got ? what else can we say that's what's going on. and that can

involve enormous journalistic. we're looking at the sun and these headlines, the details they've got. >> does that tell you, john, reading between the lines that this story has legs ? i'm this story likely has legs? i'm sure it does. >> and you think this is you would now on of would you say now on balance of probability it's bigger probability that it's bigger than just tittle tattle? >> oh, no. i'm sure that there's i'm sure there's something in this because by now because what will sun have done? just will the sun have done? just just sense of what just giving us a sense of what would do way would the sun do by way of checks balances really checks and balances to really stand we stand this story up? well, we wouldn't press on on wouldn't go to press on on a whim, they? no, no i >> -- >> they'll have gone obviously, enough information from the mother of the youngster. we don't we're not told whether it's a boy or a girl. the youngster. they must feel that she's witness. they she's a credible witness. they presumably have had some more evidence about the youngster and what they were doing and what was on. they'll have was going on. and they'll have taken as well . taken legal advice as well. >> have taken legal advice. >> they just think, >> they must just think, actually and also because they know the name of know that they know the name of the who's alleged to be the person who's alleged to be the person who's alleged to be the bbc man. so, you know , they the bbc man. so, you know, they then got a whole raft of

possible questions. you know, does this person exist? yes, presumably he does exist or what might he think about this at some point , they presumably will some point, they presumably will approach him and ask him for a comment. this is the bbc man at the centre of it all. so, i mean, there's so many aspects of it which we just don't know. okay >> well, look, michael wants to contribute to this. we're dropping everything and we've got more coverage of the bbc mired in a sex scandal. all allegations at this stage . next allegations at this stage. next up, we'll be looking at headunes up, we'll be looking at headlines from the telegraph and mirror and we've been conducting an exclusive mark dolan . and an exclusive mark dolan. and tonight, people's poll, we've been asking, could this sex scandal bring down the bbc? the results of that are .

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i >> tonight, bbc in crisis special bit of housekeeping. by the way. i'm delighted and privileged to be looking after the prime time slot for 12 days in a row. yes indeed. so i'll be looking after dan wootton this week. so i'm back tomorrow at 9:00, until next 9:00, right through until next weekend. looking forward to having your company. thanks for the by the way. mark gb the emails by the way. mark gb news .com . it's been such a busy news .com. it's been such a busy show. i've not show. apologies. i've not been able feedback on able to get more feedback on air. we'll definitely remedy that . so but let's have that tomorrow. so but let's have a look of the papers. a look at more of the papers. the telegraph lead with this story . bbc calls in police over story. bbc calls in police over star sex scandal . also rwanda star sex scandal. also rwanda plan is best way to stop small boats, says kenneth clarke and the mirror. let me just tell you what's in the mirror, because we're just organising the graphic the moment. can graphic at the moment. can i just say ellen, and just say that ellen, greg and james done brilliant job james have done a brilliant job tonight, show with a tonight, a very busy show with a small compact high small but compact and high quality daily mirror quality team, the daily mirror fair revenge fair dinkum england's revenge and presenter suspended bbc calls in cops. there you go. let's go, old school. that's what i used to do i was on

what i used to do when i was on the hold it to the radio. just hold it up to the radio. just hold it up to the do the camera. james is happy. do you? out of a job, big guy. right. listen let's get reaction from . oh, no, let's first of from. oh, no, let's first of all, importantly , your all, most importantly, your feedback. conducted an feedback. we conducted an exclusive mark dolan tonight, people's this sex people's poll. could this sex scandal bring the bbc? the scandal bring down the bbc? the results are in it is results are in and it is marginal , results are in and it is marginal, but let me say 55% say no, 45% say yes. it could. so there you go. the bbc survives . there you go. the bbc survives. and let's get reaction now from top political commentator emma webb , author, journalist and webb, author, journalist and broadcaster, former star of newsnight and other bbc shows , newsnight and other bbc shows, michael crick. and at the bbc, chief political correspondent, bestselling author and former political editor of itn. john sergeant. so michael , are the sergeant. so michael, are the fallout continues? bbc causing cops say the daily mirror. can i just offer you this tweet from the investigative journalist mark williams—thomas , and he has mark williams—thomas, and he has tweeted the following. the police are now investigating the allegation against the bbc. presenter i've investigated lots

of these types of allegations and the presenter should have been formally suspended weeks ago, given the very serious nature of the allegations , how nature of the allegations, how would you react to that? this is a that believe helped to a guy that i believe helped to expose the scandal. he expose the savile scandal. he was i remember his name from that. >> and it really depends on what the allegations that were sent to the bbc were, how strong were they, how specific were they? were they anonymous ? yes. was it were they anonymous? yes. was it clear who they were from ? um, i clear who they were from? um, i think it would be dangerous if any employer was to simply suspend employees on the basis of an anonymous or unsubstantiated covid allegations. and i think that's what that that may be the problem here. on the other hand , if they were substantiated, if it was clear who the allegations were from , if they were in may, were from, if they were in may, then mark williams—thomas, i think has a good point . but it

think has a good point. but it may be that when they when may also be that when they when the bbc were in touch with the complainant, yes, it may be the complainant, yes, it may be the complainant said, of course, don't i don't want you to talk to the police about this. >> i don't want this. i don't want that. they may have been all bbc all sorts of conditions. the bbc then wait then think, well, so wait a moment. have any proof moment. we don't have any proof of you don't i mean, of this. you don't know. i mean, you know far the bbc you don't know how far the bbc were what they were bewildered by what they were bewildered by what they were told or how they were being told or how much they thought, see. it's thought, oh, i see. it's all quite i mean, that's quite obvious. i mean, that's the difficulty is the bbc would have extremely as have to be extremely careful, as we know , there are loads we all know, there are loads of allegations kinds of allegations of all kinds of things made people, things made to people, particularly prominent people in the news or or prominent presenters of one kind or another. and so their instincts have got to be careful. they've got they mustn't be sort of, oh, well, i'll immediately let people know and i'll release the name and suspend the presenter because you then i mean , because you then i mean, everybody knows what's going on within the bbc. if the presenter suddenly says , i was going to be suddenly says, i was going to be on tomorrow for the next few

weeks, but i'm not, and i can't tell you why . i weeks, but i'm not, and i can't tell you why. i mean, weeks, but i'm not, and i can't tell you why . i mean, the whole tell you why. i mean, the whole thing. well, that's right. tell you why. i mean, the whole thing. well, that's right . we thing. well, that's right. we live in a very febrile cancelled culture environment now, and this could be leveraged, you know , for anyone wanting a witch hunt. >> you get people suspended seven days a week. yeah emma, i want to get to the to the headune want to get to the to the headline heroes. but. but what do you about the impact do you think about the impact this have the its this could have on the bbc? its credibility, the licence fee and its future? think it's massive. >> i mean, don't have >> i mean, we don't have anything speculate with here. anything to speculate with here. we know enough at all by we don't know enough at all by far . but i we don't know enough at all by far. but i think the reason why people are jumping to the conclusion that the bbc have not done what they should do is because the bbc have a track record in not doing what they should probably can should do. and probably you can imagine a situation in which, you know, a vexatious complaint might be made someone might be made against someone for know, deadnaming for, you know, deadnaming somebody or using the wrong pronoun. and, you know, they would be suspended like that. and you see something and so then you see something like this, which is a very serious and they serious allegation. and they seem to have dragged their feet. so a lot to do. so i think this is a lot to do. i is to do with

i think this is a lot to do with the perception . and as the public perception. and as i was saying earlier, the lack of trust bbc now as an trust in the bbc now as an institution. but but institution. i know, but but bear though, in bear in mind, though, that if in fact, released a name fact, the bbc released a name and it was wrong, fact, the bbc released a name and it was wrong , the legal and it was wrong, the legal costs of defending that they could get would be absolutely enormous. >> and the reputational reputational cost . but i mean reputational cost. but i mean the person immediately then could say, well you didn't get in touch with me. you released the name or i was suspended without being given a chance to reply. therefore i'm going to claim damages against you and it could be millions and millions. it would be it would be payday. >> now you're all top broadcasters. >> we've got about 50s for your heroes sentence heroes and zeros. so a sentence and a name, please. my hero is alison bailey. >> is a lawyer , gender >> she is a lawyer, gender critical lawyer who just won a massive in the massive victory in the employment brilliant employment tribunal. brilliant >> michael, briefly, hero is >> michael, briefly, my hero is tom hayes, who was one the tom hayes, who was one of the city traders who went to jail for about five years, wrongly because of the libor scandal. >> in my view . and he's now been >> in my view. and he's now been given permission to appeal to the court of appeal, and he's

he's handled the justice he's handled the fair justice prevails or at least hopefully it does. it's going that way, john, briefly, very quickly, hero andy murray time. >> we still can still cheer him on. second one in the villain keir starmer for saying that he hates tree huggers. now that is overdoing it. he's overdoing it. i was tempted to say that, but i'm going to say robert jenrick for ordering that mickey mouse cartoons and jungle book cartoons and jungle book cartoons be painted over in a children's asylum centre. >> really offensive and emma, the eco zealot with the sanctimony smile who ruined george osborne's wedding . george osborne's wedding. >> there you go. >> there you go. >> can i thank my brilliant punst >> can i thank my brilliant pundits tonight? the team, the other the glass. most other side of the glass. most importantly, you for your company. importantly, you for your com wootton at nine headliners dan wootton at nine headliners is next. >> the temperature's rising on boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. hello there weather on. gb news. hello there and greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather

forecast. >> well, it remains unsettled . >> well, it remains unsettled. low pressure in charge of our weather. we'll see showers and longer spells of rain over the coming days and it will turn a little cooler as well. and we can see that area of low pressure just been set to the west us. but it does start to west of us. but it does start to push eastwards the next push eastwards over the next few days, risk of days, increasing the risk of some longer spells of rain, some heavy showers continuing as some longer spells of rain, some heavytoday's's continuing as some longer spells of rain, some heavytoday's heavy nuing as some longer spells of rain, some heavytoday's heavy showers will well. today's heavy showers will fade away through the evening time and then overnight, it will be largely dry. plenty of clear spells . but then later on, we spells. but then later on, we could start to see some showers moving into south western moving back into south western areas. risk of some patchy areas. the risk of some patchy rain across the far north of scotland, the scotland, too. and under the clear spells in towns and cities, temperatures around 14 or 15 degrees, a little fresher in countryside. so for most in the countryside. so for most on monday morning, it's a bright start. plenty of sunny spells, but the clouds from but the clouds gather from the southwest outbreaks of rain southwest with outbreaks of rain quickly pushing into parts of the country. wales pushing the west country. wales pushing its way northwards we move its way northwards as we move through day, this through the day, some of this rain could be heavy at times around we'll see sunny around it. we'll see sunny spells scattered heavy

spells and scattered heavy showers. of sunshine showers. best of the sunshine towards south—east england here. highs of 23 or 24. generally the high teens to low 20s elsewhere . if you're stuck under the rain, it'll be quite a chilly feel rain pushes northwards feel that rain pushes northwards and fragments as we move through the and then further and fragments as we move through the pushes and then further and fragments as we move through the pushes in|d then further and fragments as we move through the pushes in from n further and fragments as we move through the pushes in from theirther rain pushes in from the southwest as we move through into the early of tuesday into the early hours of tuesday morning. some of this rain will also be heavy. so quite a lot of cloud around means temperatures again, in the mid again, holding up in the mid teens take us into the teens to take us into the tuesday morning, which will be a bit of an unsettled start to the day. showers and longer spells of rain. but i'm hopeful as we move day, will of rain. but i'm hopeful as we m0\more day, will of rain. but i'm hopeful as we m0\more in day, will of rain. but i'm hopeful as we m0\more in the day, will of rain. but i'm hopeful as we mm more in the way|y, will of rain. but i'm hopeful as we mm more in the way of will of rain. but i'm hopeful as we mm more in the way of sunnyl see more in the way of sunny spells developing. again, spells developing. but again, some showers through the some of the showers through the day could heavy, day on tuesday could be heavy, perhaps the perhaps more focussed across the north and the west of the uk and temperatures under the cloud are a little disappointing for the time of year . staying unsettled time of year. staying unsettled over few days . further over the next few days. further showers and temperatures around average farage the temperatures rising . rising. >> boxed solar proud sponsors of

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