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gb news. >> it's 930 on tuesday. the 11th of july. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. good morning. >> thank you forjoining us. the bbc continues to be under the spotlight again today as the
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parents of the young person at the heart of presenter's the heart of the presenter's scandal say they stand by scandal say that they stand by their but the lawyer their claims. but the lawyer representing the youth says that the story is rubbish. do you agree .7 agree? >> and the big boss of the bbc is speaking today. that's tim davie. he's facing the media talking about the bbc's annual report. normally the questions are all about big stars salaries. today it's going to be about the so—called big scandal, about the so—called big scandal, about this unnamed bbc presenter , prime minister rishi sunak will urge nato leaders in lithuania to increase their defence spending to meet targets today , the uk and its allies today, the uk and its allies prepare to offer ukraine an israel style protection deal that would involve arming the country in the longer term . and country in the longer term. and that immigration bill is back in the commons today after being torn apart by those unelected members of the house of lords. and now know the government and we now know the government is half £1 million a is spending half £1 million a day on hotel rooms being day on empty hotel rooms being kept packed. but guess what? migrants the channel .
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migrants crossing the channel. >> so just to be clear , that's >> so just to be clear, that's an extra half a million a day. exactly on empty hotel rooms , exactly on empty hotel rooms, just in case people arrive that need a bed that's on top of the £6 million we already paid to house those who are already . house those who are already. >> and they've also been stacking hotel staff to make way for outrageous. for migrants. outrageous. >> it ? let >> extraordinary, isn't it? let us your thoughts this us know your thoughts this morning. you morning. and no, you will gbviews@gbnews.com and our don't kill campaign. gbviews@gbnews.com and our don't kill campaign . we are kill cash campaign. we are reaching a significant milestone. don't go anywhere. first of all, though , here's first of all, though, here's your news with aaron armstrong . your news with aaron armstrong. >> good morning. it's 932. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. leaders at the nato summit are expected to give a positive signal on ukraine's bid to join the military alliance later , the military alliance later, however, it is understood allies are split about how and when ukraine should be integrated
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into nato . kyiv is asking for into nato. kyiv is asking for clarity and security guarantees while the war continues. well, the alliance does agree ukraine won't join the bloc while the war is still underway. but secretary general jens stoltenberg says a pathway for membership will be defined . membership will be defined. mortgage rates have hit their highest level in 15 years, with the average two year fixed deal now 6.66. the last time borrowing costs were this high was during the financial crisis of 2008. lenders will be questioned by mps on the treasury committee later. interest rates set by the bank of england have continued to rise in an effort to bring down inflation. and the chancellor, jeremy hunt , says that inflation. and the chancellor, jeremy hunt, says that remains the government's priority . the government's priority. >> do what is necessary >> we will do what is necessary for as long as necessary to tackle inflation, persistence and bring it back to the 2% target at delivering sound. money is our number one focus. that means taking responsible decisions on public finances,
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including public sector pay, because more borrowing is itself inflate . three director general inflate. three director general of the bbc will be questioned shortly over how the corporation deau shortly over how the corporation dealt with allegations one of its star presenters paid a teenager for explicit photos. >> tim davie will face reporters as the bbc publishes its annual report . a lawyer for the young report. a lawyer for the young person at the centre of the allegations says nothing unlawful took place and has described allegations published in the sun as rubbish . the in the sun as rubbish. the government's been forced to offer a series of concessions as the illegal migration bill returns to the house of commons. the changes include limiting the detention of unaccompanied children to eight days rather than the proposed 28, and the legislation will no longer be used retrospectively against people already in the uk. an earlier version of the bill was rejected by the house of lords , rejected by the house of lords, suffering 20 defeats more on all
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of our stories, as always on our website. gbnews.com. now it's time for andrew and . time for andrew and. bev >> well, the story we were talking about yesterday took a dramatic twist yesterday when lawyers representing the young person at the heart of the bbc presenter scandal said the claims they were paid tens of thousands pounds for explicit thousands of pounds for explicit pictures rubbish. thousands of pounds for explicit pictso�*s rubbish. thousands of pounds for explicit pictso in rubbish. thousands of pounds for explicit pictso in response h. thousands of pounds for explicit pictso in response ,. thousands of pounds for explicit pictso in response , the parents >> so in response, the parents have doubled down. they said they stand by claims and they stand by their claims and accuse the bbc ignoring accuse the bbc of ignoring testimony given to them. back in may. >> it comes ahead of the release of the corporation's annual report today, which details pay agreements the corporation has with its biggest stars. once published general published director general tim davie. of the bbc, davie. he's the boss of the bbc, will questions from will face questions from the press believe it won't press and believe me, it won't be presenters pay. it will be about presenters pay. it will be about presenters pay. it will be about presenters pay. it will be about this great controversy about presenter and this about the presenter and this unnamed person. unnamed young person. >> well, joining is
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>> yeah, well, joining us now is principal of college principal of south college durham former bbc durham university and former bbc executive professor tim luckhurst. good morning , executive professor tim luckhurst. good morning, tim. first of all, just your broad thoughts really on this situation and how complicated it is for the bbc to handle now , is for the bbc to handle now, from the very beginning, this entire scandal has been marked by an appalling absence of accurate factual information in there have always been more questions than answers . questions than answers. >> and those questions do focus very much at the moment on the sun, not on the bbc, but it is a difficult day for the bbc, not least, as you say, because tim dodi general is publishing the bbc's annual report and he's going to face a lot of questions which perhaps a few months ago he wouldn't have been expecting to today . so he will come to face today. so he will come under deal of pressure. under a great deal of pressure. i think the bbc on the whole has handled well, handled this well, but its position is made much more complex by the current nature of privacy in uk. privacy law in the uk. >> is there question, though, >> is there a question, though, tim, whether if we believe the
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family, the parents of this young person, they said they had an hour long conversation with somebody in the we don't somebody in the bbc. we don't know senior they may know how senior they were in may for hour and nothing for an hour and nothing happened, did they? there happened, did they? was there a failure? if that is a correct representation, should it not have been escalated? right then ? well as you say, if that is the correct representation and there's absolutely no certainty that that is the correct representation , it seems that representation, it seems that the parents approached the bbc in may. >> it seems that there was a conversation in which they asked the bbc to prevent the unnamed presenter from doing certain things if that is the case, as a bbc executive , my first response bbc executive, my first response would have been to say , look, i would have been to say, look, i need to know an awful lot more. i can't simply intervene as you're asking me to without evidence that the allegations you are making are substantial associated. and i think that would have been a reasonable approach from the bbc, if that is the approach they took and
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they didn't get the answers they needed , then i entirely needed, then i entirely understand why the bbc has been extremely cautious about this. they have competing obligations. they have competing obligations. they have competing obligations. they have an obligation to their employee . they have an employee. they have an obugafion employee. they have an obligation to a vulnerable young person who may have been the subject of criminal behaviour . subject of criminal behaviour. but those competing obligations, both need to be dealt with very carefully. and i think the bbc has tried very hard to deal with them carefully , be the presenter them carefully, be the presenter in question on this morning is obviously in a very, very difficult position. >> tim, andrew and i, you know, we were sitting here saying, you know, it could happen to anybody in the public eye. actually, if it is a false allegation, then we are all vulnerable, all to false allegations. and that's where have some sympathy with where i have some sympathy with the how they handle this the bbc and how they handle this , have , because they must have allegations , you would think, on allegations, you would think, on allegations, you would think, on a fairly regular basis about all sorts people public sorts of people in the public eye. but that the police eye. but now that the police have at moment there is have said at the moment there is no of proof to arrest no burden of proof to arrest anybody and the alleged victim
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of this crime has effectively come out and said that i am not a victim. there is no crime here. where does this leave the allegedly accused presenter ? allegedly accused presenter? >> well, the presenter could choose to identify themselves, but the presenter has chosen not to do that out at the moment. our privacy law is pretty restrictive and we obviously have to abide by the law. my own view is that privacy law has gone too far since the leveson inquiry . there was a time when inquiry. there was a time when people accused of such offences were identified before they were charged or even though charges might subsequently be emerging and were given an opportunity to defend themselves in public as well as facing accusations in public. that is a much harder position to achieve now . on the position to achieve now. on the whole, we take the view that if there is any possibility of criminal proceedings in the future , we do not name the future, we do not name the accused until such time as charges are brought . and we're a
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charges are brought. and we're a very long way from that stage. so it's difficult because privacy law makes it difficult and i have enormous sympathy for the bbc. i have enormous sympathy also for the sun. i'm one of those strange things, a genuine liberal. i actually think we need our great national broadcaster. i also think we need great popular news newspapers. so that's an unusual position perhaps, but i genuinely believe it. i think in a liberal, plural and diverse media environment, both are enormously valuable. >> talk about the privacy >> you talk about the privacy law, tim, if i could press you would. >> do you think it would be appropriate, bearing in mind we're now on day four or even five of this story, lots of people watching programme, people watching this programme, listening to this programme will probably good idea probably have a fairly good idea of my own newspaper today. of it is my own newspaper today. the daily mail says on its front page shows 1 in 6 people page a poll shows 1 in 6 people already know. it just be already know. would it just be easier if the person's name was released then they could released and then they could defend if they are defend themselves if they are insisting they've done nothing wrong and it would be much easier for everybody, including the presenter , it wouldn't be
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the presenter, it wouldn't be easier for the bbc or indeed for the sun, because they might then face extremely expensive actions for defamation. >> so i don't think it would be easy at all because the way that privacy law operates , the only privacy law operates, the only way that that name is going to enter the public domain at the moment, and i hope it does not. in fact, the only way it will happenisif in fact, the only way it will happen is if a member of parliament decides to name the presenter under parliamentary privilege . now, the daily mail privilege. now, the daily mail suggests that that might be under consideration or that some mps might choose to do that. that, of course, is something that operating under that mps operating under parliamentary privilege could do . so whether it would be appropriate to do so is a matter for their consciences as well. >> under what circumstances could you imagine they would be dfiven could you imagine they would be driven to say such a thing? tim well , under what circumstances well, under what circumstances might the parents be driven to say such a thing? >> no, i'm sorry. >> under what circumstances would an mp think they had a right to name this person publicly? what could their
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motivation possibly be? >> well, their motivation could be that they think that privacy law has gone too far, that that privacy law has been driven by judges making decisions , not by judges making decisions, not by parliamentary scrutiny and not by the decisions of our elected representatives. and i'd have a degree of sympathy for that position . after all, mps are position. after all, mps are supposed to make laws not simply to be subject to laws which have been implemented by court decision and there are people in parliament who think that that's a very inappropriate use of our constitutional procedures . that constitutional procedures. that would be a principled position , would be a principled position, andifs would be a principled position, and it's one for which i'd have some sympathy, but i think it would cause enormous difficulties for the sun difficulties for both the sun and the bbc. >> there's an irony here, tim, isn't there, that are where isn't there, that we are where we with this privacy law we are with this privacy law because the previous actions because of the previous actions of the dear old bbc when they raid raided the bbc raid when police raided the bbc cliff richard's home, he's of course, a national treasure. you don't need me to tell you that. not only would the bbc tipped off covered the event, they off and covered the event, they flew a flippin helicopter above
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cliff's film the entire cliff's home to film the entire thing, ran tv and radio . not thing, ran on tv and radio. not a shred of evidence was ever put against cliff. richard was never even questioned by the police, and as a result of that, he won and as a result of that, he won a case against the bbc. and we now have privacy law. we've now have the privacy law. we've got today . got today. >> was the start of >> well, that was the start of the move towards the privacy law that we've got you're that we've got today. you're absolutely right, of absolutely right, andrew, of course, also a case course, there was also a case last year involving bloomberg and an accusation in which they wished to name accused and wished to name the accused and the courts again prevented them from doing so until charges were brought. so this has gone on not not just one case, but you're absolutely right. the cliff richard case, and that was a colossal error of judgement was the beginning of it. and i understand why people think privacy law has gone too far. but also someone who but i'm also someone who believes that whilst one can project protest against the current law, one should abide by it until such time as parliament changes. it >> one last question, tim. does the bbc have to behave differently to commercial
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broadcasters in the sense it's a pubuc broadcasters in the sense it's a public service broadcaster, it's paid for entirely out of mainly out of people's pockets through the licence fee . do they have the licence fee. do they have a more finessed duty of care . more finessed duty of care. >> i think that they are held to a higher standard of accountability and i think that every director general , every every director general, every bbc journalist knows that the bbc journalist knows that the bbc deserves to be held to a higher standard of accountability. given the way that the bbc is funded , given that the bbc is funded, given that the bbc is funded, given that it that the bbc is funded, given thatitis that the bbc is funded, given that it is a great tool of british cultural diplomacy, respected at home and abroad, i think it's appropriate that the bbc should be scrutinised in that way. i think it's the price that way. i think it's the price that the bbc pays for a licence fee settlement which enables it to have great scope, great reach and great international influence. so yeah, the bbc is held to a very high standard of accountability. it should be held to a very high standard of accountability. i think every director—general lord director—general since lord reith known that that's the reith has known that that's the case and tim davie certainly case and tim davie is certainly going to know it's the case
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today, that's perfectly today, and that's perfectly appropriate. you, appropriate. thank you, professor luckhurst there. professor tim luckhurst there. >> will bring that >> and we will bring you that interrogation of tim davie, let's call it that, later this this morning. >> and just just on what's changed dramatically, the lawyers on behalf of the lawyers letter on behalf of the young person said nothing illegal has taken place. now, the suggestion from the sun was that the bbc presenter was sharing images from a 79 year old, which would be against the law because although you're from 16, the age of consent is 16. the law says you're not mature enough and old enough at 17 to share indecent images. so the lawyers letter is saying clearly no law was broken. so how have the sun got the age of this person correct in when they say this has been going on for three years is of course, you can almost never tell from a photograph these days of how old somebody is. >> and that's why that particular age is 18, i believe
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rather than 16 for the possession, distribution or the ownership of pictures or taking even of pictures of a young person. but it is a very, very murky area , particularly for murky area, particularly for those. now, of course, if you want to go through somebody tech or their laptops, their phones, you have to arrest them because that will then give the police powers to do that. and as the police said, there is no police have said, there is no burden evidence that burden here of evidence that would suggest that this alleged, although spoken to although they haven't spoken to this they haven't this person yet, they haven't spoke person yet, and spoke to this person yet, and nor bbc, which is nor have the bbc, which is what's extraordinary. but what's so extraordinary. but that's because there's no victim, to alleged victim, according to the alleged victim, according to the alleged victim, she has victim, he says or he she has said, not a victim, that said, i'm not a victim, that person. so and the parents, just to you know, have to just so you know, have doubled said, yes , what doubled down and said, yes, what we've to the sun we've said to the sun is absolutely true. >> told the bbc for an >> and we told the bbc for an hour and it's a complete it's a horlicks and we will bring you live the live when tim davie, the director general of the bbc, he's the big boss, speaks about what other what presenters pay and other issues, the big questions he's going to be facing is have the bbc was
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bbc handled this right? was there up? yes there a cover up? yes >> now, moving on, the prime minister will today tell world leaders to increase their military budgets . are military budgets. so are we going to that now? i don't going to do that now? i don't think we've got time to do that now. oh, we can't. we are going to we've had a lovely letter about don't kill cash about our don't kill cash campaign, sure we've campaign, but i'm not sure we've got to. just. got time to. let's just. no, we're not to do it now. we're not going to do it now. >> well, just you've got to keep signing because we're getting close a very, big close to a very, very big threshold for threshold figure for the for save our campaign. save our cash campaign. >> please, please >> yeah, please, please, please go website gbnews.com. go onto our website gbnews.com. this sign this morning and sign our petition. about petition. but we'll talk about that in just a moment. so the prime minister will today tell world to increase world leaders to increase their military deter military budgets to deter vladimir putin at a major nato summit lithuania. vladimir putin at a major nato sunso t lithuania. vladimir putin at a major nato sunso rishiithuania. vladimir putin at a major nato sunso rishi sunak,i. vladimir putin at a major nato sunso rishi sunak, what about >> so rishi sunak, what about further ukraine with further support for ukraine with a that a recommendation that all members spend 2% their members spend 2% of their economic output on defence, which currently done by which is currently only done by 11 out of 31, including germany, who of don't their share. >> so joining us now is major—general chip chapman. good morning , chip. great to see you. morning, chip. great to see you. now, of course, nato was set up after the second world war to
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make the world a safer place. doesit make the world a safer place. does it still achieve that aim in your view ? in your view? >> well, that wasn't really what it was set up to do. it was set up to make sure that the interests of its members were protected and that it would go to war collectively if they were threatened and invaded by people . still pertains. it has to . that still pertains. it has to be credible for them to do that . it's still pertains because as an expansionist threat in europe, is why in the last europe, that is why in the last year we've had finland join as the 31st member and why last night we had sweden unlocked really, with the turkey now agreeing to it to become the 32nd member. so it is still relevant. the reason that sweden and finland joined was because they still fear this revanchist russia. and so yeah , its russia. and so yeah, its relevance is there particularly in article 5, that if any nato country is invaded, then its collective security for all. >> but isn't it outrageous that chip that still only 11 out of 31 countries are paying that to % we're one of them. of course,
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britain, the united states pay the lion's share, but countries like germany and france, wealthy countries are not paying their fair share . fair share. >> yeah, it is. you have to understand where the 2% came from. so the 2% came from the 2014 summit, which is, of course , the same year that russia illegally annexed crimea and went into the donbas and in 2014 it was the aiming mark that by 2024 people would get to 2. so this will be reiterated today in 2023, that all nations should try and go to 2. now, many people would say that 2% is strategic illiterate . and one of strategic illiterate. and one of the other things that is going to come out of this is that we are going to go to a different and deterrence and defence of the euro—atlantic new concept, which will be based on three things. firstly defence of the high north, which really impacts on the uk and the greenland iceland, uk gap. secondly the
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centre, the defence of continental europe and thirdly the south—east. you know, the black sea and the mediterranean terranean were again gibraltar becomes important. so it's the new plans, strategic plans and regional plans which should come out of the vilnius conference, which will drive the structure operation activities and investment for the future, including command and control changes. and that should be the catalyst for people going towards 2% in a coherent military fashion. >> and chip, let me ask you about the news we had this week about the news we had this week about america providing cluster bombs to the ukrainians. what was your view of that decision . was your view of that decision. >> well, you've got to answer the question, why were they provided ? now, from the provided? now, from the perspective of international law, both ukraine, russia and the us are not a signatory to the us are not a signatory to the 2008 cluster munitions treaty the uk is, which is why rishi sunak had to be very, very
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careful, because under the provisions of that, you're not allowed to either give them, which we don't have, nor should you endorse any other person doing that . now they were given doing that. now they were given because there is a capability gap is that the amount of gap that is that the amount of artillery that the ukrainians have is far less than the russians, though. so from a perspective of targeting and proportion , banality and proportion, banality and distinction, because the ukrainians say that they will only use them against russian military targets in ukrainian sovereign territory and they will not be used on urban areas as, for example, the russians did when they were attacking kharkiv last year. it makes military sense , but it might be military sense, but it might be morally distasteful, but it is not illegal. and the ukrainians needit not illegal. and the ukrainians need it if they're to be sustained on the battlefield at the moment, the worry is and you don't need me to tell you this chip, that they hang around a long time, these cluster bombs and they could wreak havoc on civilians . that and they could wreak havoc on
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civilians. that is and they could wreak havoc on civilians . that is absolutely civilians. that is absolutely the case. but most of the weapons which are being used, unless they're small arms, have a wide area effect. artillery has a wide area effect, but drones have a wide area effect and russian missiles have a wide area effect. so there is still, of course , a sort of a iron iron of course, a sort of a iron iron harvest being dug up every year from the first world war in the somme and passchendaele. so there's nothing exclusive about these weapons which is actually any different than munitions which are hanging around the battlefield . the thing about the battlefield. the thing about the provision american weapons is provision of american weapons is that american war law , the that under american war law, the dud rate cannot be larger than 1% or 2.5% if it's authorised as the dud rate of russian cluster munitions use so far is in the order of 40% of ukrainian weapons , it's 20. this is weapons, it's 20. this is partially to do with the fact that the russians often hold on to munitions way past their sell by date in a sort of shelf life
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. and propellants degrade . . and propellants degrade. >> okay. thank you, chip . major >> okay. thank you, chip. major general chip chapman there. thanks for joining general chip chapman there. thanks forjoining us general chip chapman there. thanks for joining us this morning. >> former head of counter—terror ism, of course, at the mod. >> absolutely. we were looking at live pictures there of at some live pictures there of the nato summit, it was the nato summit, but it was basically load of men in basically a load of men in suits. yeah, it looks really good, isn't it? terribly interesting. we had a lovely letter said letter from lesley who said to andrew liam, we're andrew and bev and liam, we're going liam in the studio going to have liam in the studio in just a while. actually, i want to sign up to your don't kill cash campaign. got kill cash campaign. i've got no internet our internet and no smartphone. our world is getting smaller when we go anywhere with apps to go out anywhere with apps to park lesley thank you park the car. lesley thank you so much. >> lots and if you if you do >> and lots and if you if you do want letters to in us want to send letters to in us that on the petition that will count on the petition and are going set up a and we are going to set up a p.o. and we are going to set up a po. box, we want you to go on to our website to today. we'll just remind you what the gb news dot forward cash dot com forward slash cash because we're very, very because we're getting very, very close a week to 200,000 close in just a week to 200,000 signatures, you only need 100,000 to pressing those 100,000 to start pressing those scallies where 100,000 to start pressing those scaltalking where 100,000 to start pressing those scaltalking about where 100,000 to start pressing those scaltalking about wagree i'm talking about mps to agree to a debate. but if we've got 200,000 signatures more, it's 200,000 signatures or more, it's going much more difficult
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it's 10:00 on tuesday, the 11th of july. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with bev turner and andrew pierce , bbc. turner and andrew pierce, bbc. >> it's under the spotlight again as the parents of the young person at the heart of the presenter scandal says, they stand by their claims. but lawyers representing the young person says story is rubbish i >> -- >> what a mess. and the director general, tim davie, will face the media later ahead of the release of the bbc's annual report. now, normally this would be a focus on the pay deals that the corporation has with its biggest stars, but not today . biggest stars, but not today. >> and the prime minister, the prime minister rishi sunak, is in lithuania this morning. it's the nato leaders summit. he's urging all countries to meet their spending targets. their defence spending targets. guess don't? guess which countries don't? germany france, course germany and france, of course they don't. >> and the government has been
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forced to u—turn on key parts of the illegal migration bill after it suffered 20 defeats the it suffered 20 defeats in the house of of course, amid house of lords. of course, amid reports that the government is currently spending half £1 million of taxpayers money every single day on empty hotel rooms just in case migrant numbers increase . increase. >> and yet those unelected laws are doing everything they can to scupper that rwanda stop the boats bill. they've got no alternative plan whatsoever . alternative plan whatsoever. >> if they had an alternative. >> if they had an alternative. >> yeah. >> if they had an alternative. >> and|. forget labour party >> and don't forget labour party and democrats also and liberal democrats also opposed the only party supporting are the tories. supporting it are the tories. >> now of course. let us >> yeah. now of course. let us know your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com email vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address don't kill cash address and our don't kill cash campaign running we campaign is still running and we want signatures on to want your signatures on it to pushit want your signatures on it to push it to 200,000 during the show this morning. first though, here is the latest news here is the very latest news with armstrong .
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with karen armstrong. >> good morning. it's a minute past ten. i'm karen armstrong in the gb news room, the director general of the bbc will face questions over how the corporation is handling allegations. one of its presenters teenager for presenters paid a teenager for explicit photos. tim davie is scheduled to brief the media later ahead of the bbc's annual report . now the sun says the report. now the sun says the parents of the young person are standing by their account . standing by their account. however, a lawyer representing the now 20 year old says nothing unlawful happened and has described the allegations as rubbish. while speaking on gb news cabinet minister mel stride was asked whether he'd consider using parliamentary privilege to name the presenter , as some mps name the presenter, as some mps have threatened . have threatened. >> no, i wouldn't. as a short answer to that, i think the biggest takeaway from this set of circumstance cases at the moment, one of the big ones is that we just don't know the facts. in fact, we're getting now contradictory facts from statements from various individuals that may or may not be involved within this .
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be involved within this. >> leaders gathering at the nato summit are expected to give a positive signal on ukraine's bid to join the military alliance . to join the military alliance. however, allies are split about how and when ukraine should be integrated into nato . kyiv is integrated into nato. kyiv is asking for clarity on that and also security guarantees . while also security guarantees. while the war with russia continues. well, despite the alliance agreeing ukraine can't join the bloc while the war is underway, secretary general jens stoltenberg says a pathway for membership will be agreed. i also expect that allies will send a clear and positive message on the path forward towards membership for ukraine and i have proposed a package of three elements with more practical support, with a multi—year program to ensure full interoperability between the ukrainian forces and the nato forces . nato forces. >> this is move this will move ukraine closer to nato . ukraine closer to nato. >> the government will face
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further hurdles today as its illegal migration bill returns to the house of commons following a series of defeats . following a series of defeats. some of the changes to the bill will include limiting the detention of unaccompanied children to eight days rather than the proposed 28, and the legislation will no longer be used retrospectively against people already in the uk . the people already in the uk. the earlier version of the bill was rejected 20 times in the house of lords mortgage rates have hit their highest level in 15 years, with the average two year fixed deal now sitting at 6.66. the last time borrowing costs were this high was during the financial crisis of 2008. lenders will be questioned by mps on the treasury committee later this morning. interest rates set by the bank of england, though, have continued to rise. it's in an effort to bfing to rise. it's in an effort to bring down inflation. ian and chairman jeremy hunt, the chancellor says that remains the government's priority. >> what is necessary >> we will do what is necessary for as long as necessary to
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tackle inflation. persistence and bring it back to the 2% target delivering sound money is our number one focus as that means taking responsible decisions on public finances , decisions on public finances, including public sector pay , including public sector pay, because more borrowing is itself inflationary . inflationary. >> however, the pace of wage growth has risen again, prompting fears of a further hike in interest rates next month. average weekly pay is up to 7.3, and that's higher in the three months to may compared with last year and matches the joint highest figures since records began in 2001. the office for national statistics also revealed that unemployment rose unexpected over the 3:45% train fares could be reduced under a plan to introduce more competition on britain's railways. a new research says allowing multiple operators to run services on the same line will lead to better services ,
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will lead to better services, newer trains and cheaper fares . newer trains and cheaper fares. rail partners, which represents private train companies, is calling for open access to allow more companies to compete for customers like in many other european countries . customers like in many other european countries. this is gb news more as it happens, but right now it is back to bev and . andrew >> well, the twists and turns in this extraordinary story about the bbc personality, the lawyer representing the young person at the heart of this scandal has said claims in the in the sun newspaper there are, in fact a load of rubbish . load of rubbish. >> that's right. in response, the parents who took the complaint to the newspaper said that they stand by their claims and accused the bbc of ignoring testimony that they gave. they say to the channel, to the station back in may, and they
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told the sun this morning that they spoke to the bbc for one houn >> now, later this morning, director general tim davie, he's the man in the hot seat. he's the man in the hot seat. he's the boss. he's facing questions from the media about the bbc's annual which normally annual report, which is normally about but about people's salary. but pretty much what they're pretty much guess what they're going this morning? going to be asking this morning? mark security mark white, who is our security editor security editor, editor at home security editor, is for us outside is there for us outside broadcasting house. mark look, i wouldn't want to be in tim davies shoes this morning . davies shoes this morning. >> no. good morning. i mean, today is obviously a big day for the bbc anyway with the publication of the annual report. normally a time for the to bbc take account of the year that's passed the highs and lows of that year. one of the issues of that year. one of the issues of course, is the bbc accounts and presenters salaries , which and presenters salaries, which of course, obviously gets a lot of course, obviously gets a lot of engagement at this particular time of the year when this report comes out. but there is no doubt that in this briefing
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and we see a briefing because it's not a public press conference as such, it won't be available for anyone to watch. it is a briefing forjournalists it is a briefing for journalists before the report is actually published at midday today. there will be an opportunity for journalists to put questions to tim davie, and there is no doubt that they will want to know what he knows , what he did with he knows, what he did with regard to the allegations that have been made. we are now five days in in terms of five splashes in the sun newspaper and yes , there has been more and yes, there has been more information that has come out about this alleged scandal. but it's really just made the actual story that much more complicated and complex to report out because claim now and counter claim claim from the individual. the person, the young person at the centre of these allegations
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last night that the allegations are rubbish . the claim from this are rubbish. the claim from this young person's family be that actually they stick by their assertion that they sold to the sun newspaper paper. and all the while, of course , this is the while, of course, this is the bbc, not saying an awful lot other than that that presenter has been suspended and an investigation is underway . and investigation is underway. and indeed, the metropolitan police saying they're looking at the evidence following a conversation they had with bbc representatives yesterday. but they have not yet concluded that there is from what they see, any offence that has been committed and any formal investigation that's been launched. >> okay. thank you very much, mark, at the bbc and we will bfing mark, at the bbc and we will bring you that footage of tim davie being interviewed when it emerges. now, former special adviser charlie rowley is with us now. charlie, great to see you . let me let me pose to you
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you. let me let me pose to you to views from our audience. tricia has said, i think the cover up of the bbc presenter is horrendous. the elite can do whatever they want. how can a drug addict afford best drug addict afford the best lawyers? police and bbc drug addict afford the best lawyeto? police and bbc drug addict afford the best lawyeto stop police and bbc drug addict afford the best lawyeto stop protectingi bbc drug addict afford the best lawyeto stop protecting this bbc need to stop protecting this quy- need to stop protecting this guy. but then the other side, bernard, has said there are no criminal charges and the so—called victim says that he or she not victim. so why she is not a victim. so why should have to should the presenter have to explain there is explain himself if there is nuance morning there nuance this morning that there did to be yesterday? did not appear to be yesterday? >> andi did not appear to be yesterday? >> and i think the >> exactly. and i think the twist and the turn that we heard last night from the parents obviously their obviously doubling down on their claim, but which was rubbished by through by the individual through a lawyer has just thrown a doubt over to the to the whole claim. and i think why it's so the problem with this story, i think is threefold. there are three big institutions here. there are two big media outlets, but only one truth. so you've got the bbc, you've got the family and the young individual involved. and the police all in one bracket. you've got the sun versus the bbc and you've also got the long standing enemy of
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the bbc. >> of course, the sun, rupert murdoch's sun, quite, quite. >> and you've got the individual versus the parents. but there is only truth. so and only one truth. so no, and i think everybody is sort of walking eggshells here walking on eggshells here because been in the because the bbc has been in the headunes because the bbc has been in the headlines lot than what headlines a lot longer than what it in recent it would have been in recent would have wanted to be in recent times with richard sharpe and sort of the and gary lineker, sort of the saga there, but also the history of the bbc when it investigated sir cliff richard, for example, and colluded with the police to have helicopter outside his have a helicopter outside his house and failed to investigate jimmy savile even further back , jimmy savile even further back, failed to investigate jimmy savile, but went hell for leather i think was leather with i think it was operation hillman. i think it was when it was investigating a ring at westminster, which wasn't true. people like harvey proctor exactly . which certainly proctor exactly. which certainly wasn't true. the newsnight wasn't true. the bbc newsnight had out. i think lord had to pay out. i think lord mcalpine, former treasurer mcalpine, the former treasurer of party, they of the conservative party, they didn't name him in any of the broadcasting they issued, broadcasting that they issued, but by process of elimination. >> exactly. >> exactly. so. >> exactly. so. and >> exactly. so. and given >> exactly. so. so. and given that history of the police and the bbc, there is clearly see
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they want to get it. absolutely right. but of course, the family have decided to or the parents of this individual decided that after a complaint to the after making a complaint to the bbc, things hadn't moved quickly enough things hadn't enough. things hadn't progressed. they progressed. they claim that they were phone to an for were on the phone to an hour for the bbc talking about the issue and care their child. and the care for their child. but thing is, we're talking but the thing is, we're talking about 20 year old person here. about a 20 year old person here. >> as the mother of a 19 >> and as the mother of a 19 year old, if i tried to get involved in the minutiae of whatever doing behind involved in the minutiae of whatevdoors, doing behind involved in the minutiae of whatevdoors, they doing behind involved in the minutiae of whatev doors, they would behind involved in the minutiae of whatev doors, they would veryind closed doors, they would very quickly none of my business. >> well, i think that is also an issue because you'll have half the country, think, and the country, i think, and parents of saying, parents sort of saying, you know, the of the know, they're on the side of the parents because i was yesterday. exactly. >> a .uk. and they are arguing, to fair to the parents, that to be fair to the parents, that the money from this bbc presenter ended this presenter fund ended this person's illegal drug habit and they are alleging that this person has got a serious drug issue now. now according to the lawyer's letter, everything that was in the sun was was rubbish. but they didn't specifically , as but they didn't specifically, as far as i'm aware, get into the
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reads about the drug issue. so the parents would say this person might be 20 now. but when it started it was 17in which case it would have against case it would have been against the the lawyer's letter the law. but the lawyer's letter says no broken. says of course, no law broken. so get this person's so did they get this person's age ? right, the sun? age? right, the sun? >> but also, were the >> well, but also, were the parents fully aware of what was actually happening? and have they sort of jumped to a conclusion? it's a cry for help. i think, or the parents have tried to do the best they tried to do the best that they can their child. but you're can for their child. but you're right, child now 20 right, maybe the child is now 20 years but i don't think and years old. but i don't think and if i know if my if my son had a drug habit at at 18, 19, 20, he to some extent that's also my responsibility, especially if that living that person is still living at my house, you well, my house, you know? well, i wouldn't if wouldn't thank my parents if they'd taken into story to a national newspaper to declare that be mortified. that i. you'd be mortified. >> are not that i am at >> and they are not that i am at all, it is reported today we all, but it is reported today we probably didn't it probably probably didn't need it to as such, but they to be reported as such, but they are estranged. >> they the couple from >> yes, they the couple from from from from individual. from from from the individual. >> think with all the >> and i think with all the speculation, estranged speculation, they're estranged from speculation, they're estranged
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froryes. >> yes. >> yes. >> yes. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> i think with all the speculation about the story and because it was all sort of heading direction, and heading in one direction, and i think just it's a reality of think we just it's a reality of the two different worlds that we live process live in. there is the process and the element of having and the human element of having to when come to investigate when claims come up social media world up versus the social media world where run riot, people where things run riot, people jump where things run riot, people jump to conclusions. speculation runs, and brings runs, and it brings other people's name when they people's name into it when they when need not be putting when they need not be putting aside or illegality. aside legality or illegality. >> question >> charlie, the question for a lot of watching and lot of people watching and listening might be this is it like phillip schofield phillip schofield his schofield was described by his own former executive in own former chief executive in the commons hearing. what a the commons hearing. what was a dame whatever is, who dame, whatever her name is, who used run easyjet as having an used to run easyjet as having an inappropriate relationship with a young member of staff because she said it was like an abusive relationship because of the age gap and the power dynamics, the power dynamic. people might argue the same here, but there is no work relationship going on here. >> exactly. so and so the idea of abuse of power in the workplace is somewhat diminished in in this case. but also what
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was telling and interesting and what gripped the nation about the phillip schofield saga, i think was because of the age of where they first met. yes and then that led into a job coming into the into the itv studios, getting a job and then sort of being moved on. and obviously, there was a lot of speculation about those circumstances. but although the parents and we've only got the parents account that young individual was 17 that the young individual was 17 at the time of the contact was being made, we don't know whether true not. whether that's true or not. indeed, young individual, indeed, the young individual, through that through lawyers, has said that nothing illegal has taken place. which leads to have the which leads you to have the police . and they've used very , police. and they've used very, very careful wording that it is just an inquiry. it's not an investigation, because if you start investigation, then start an investigation, then again, to suspicion again, that leads to suspicion and are you curious like me, who's paid this young person's legal bill? >> because the lawyers involved, you wouldn't find them in the local high street. these are blue riband, £850 an hour. lawyers we know in the schofield
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case, he paid for the person's legal costs. does it matter if the bbc presenter has done that ? >> 7. >>i 7- >> i don't ? >> i don't think 7 >> i don't think it matters, but i think because of the way in which speculation has run rife through this story anyway, it would be wrong to speculate who may may paying for may or may not be paying for those fees because we just those those fees because we just don't this individual don't know who this individual is. we don't know. >> we don't know what they do for a living. >> we're treading on >> and we're treading on eggshells. also know that eggshells. and we also know that how they make money and how do they make the money and the haven't spoken to the the police haven't spoken to the individual exactly. the police haven't spoken to the ind which exactly. the police haven't spoken to the ind which why exactly. the police haven't spoken to the ind which why ex.the'. the police haven't spoken to the ind which why ex.the bbc, >> which is why i think the bbc, for of the attack off it got for all of the attack off it got kwasi on all of the front pages and accusations of not and the accusations of not acting quick enough. i think until all of these details are investigated fully and brought to i think the are to the fore. i think the bbc are talking money. talking of money. >> charlie, you feel >> charlie, how do you feel about cash? >> charlie, how do you feel about c i;h? that pen back? sorry >> are you a fan of cash? >> are you a fan of cash? >> i am. >> i am. >> have you signed our campaign on? >> i haven't, but i will do so immediately after. >> so immediately. charlie rowley. we have been running rowley. so we have been running the cash campaign for the don't kill cash campaign for all reasons of all sorts of reasons because of the people will be sidelined
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the people who will be sidelined if have no i can if we have no cash, i can announce big milestone . announce big milestone. >> 200 odd >> we've reached 200 odd thousand pound signatures and thatis thousand pound signatures and that is in just a week's time, which makes this officially one of the fastest campaigns in the history of this country. >> would you like to congratulate us, charlie? >> i would and i would be 200,001. >> we're rather pleased here. we're not going to be self—righteous about it because that's not our style. but the 100,000 barrier was broken on this programme last week, and now it with 200,000. now we've done it with 200,000. it's important it's a really important campaign. lots of people are now writing us saying, thank you writing to us saying, thank you for doing it. older people, we don't smartphones. don't have smartphones. we can't understand apps at car understand these apps at car parks. lovely letter . and that's parks. lovely letter. and that's so sad. we should read that out again. >> bev to andrew beverly i want to sign up to your don't kill cash. i've got no internet and no smartphone and our world is getting smaller out getting smaller when we go out anywhere with to park the anywhere with apps to park the car. anywhere with apps to park the can that anywhere with apps to park the car. that is from leslie in car. and that is from leslie in plymouth. leslie, thank you so much. >> keep what's what's the address? website address? it's the website gbnews.com cash gbnews.com forward slash cash and why does it matter, charlie? >> why does it matter that we
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have cash? >> because i just think for all the that you've just the reasons that you've just said, know, being on a said, you know, just being on a digital great. and digital age now is great. and one progress and one thing and progress and technology is wonderful, but it isolates so many people that don't access an iphone don't have access to an iphone or any other smartphone device. it people it just isolates people that might also might be more. it's also restricting choice. it's very restricted. and there restricted. exactly. and there will be an generation, will be an older generation, older population, not just an older. >> i put hand up as a member >> i put my hand up as a member of the older generation that still a routine still still have a routine that still like moving on to digital. >> something that >> it's just something that might be appropriate. we had might not be appropriate. we had a guest. think it goes beyond might not be appropriate. we had a guebut think it goes beyond might not be appropriate. we had a guebut i:hink it goes beyond might not be appropriate. we had a guebut i thinkt goes beyond might not be appropriate. we had a guebut i think it's es beyond might not be appropriate. we had a guebut i think it's the yeyond might not be appropriate. we had a guebut i think it's the rightd approach. >> we had a guest on yesterday who is an expert on the central banking digital currency. when you government working you were in government working for people for michael gove, were people getting dec ? >> 7- >> us ? >> us well, 7_ >> us well, i m 7 >> us well, i am refused to write to reply to people on whatsapp, so technology and i weren't friends quite right . weren't friends quite right. >> good to hear that. >> good to hear that. >> well, just because there is a process in there, but the conversation that were going in within corridors power within those corridors of power because a fact that because we know for a fact that
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rishi very excited. rishi sunak was very excited. >> videos >> he's done multiple videos onune >> he's done multiple videos online the virtues of online extolling the virtues of dec before he was prime dec even before he was prime minister and there's an inevitability moving inevitability about us moving towards that of having towards that system of having bitcoin as it has been named and also that it could be programmable money that the government, the bank of england , said to the government, do you want this to be programmable? and i'm sure whether the and i'm not sure whether the response back clearly response ever came back clearly in perhaps not. in the public eye, perhaps not. >> know, just anything. >> but, you know, just anything. i'm just a technophobe in general, i'll send you some general, so i'll send you some video. >> p it comes to online >> so when it comes to online technology, when it comes to banking, my eternal shame, i banking, to my eternal shame, i knew very about it knew very, very little about it until knew very, very little about it unt pretty, pretty horrified. >> pretty, pretty horrified. >> pretty, pretty horrified. >> are key. >> they are key. >> they are key. >> you know, i don't like to use the word they unless you explain who is. but there are banks who it is. but there are banks all around the world, the european very excited european bank are very excited about cbdc. so about prospect of cbdc. and so well , gb news viewers and well done, gb news viewers and listeners and followers for signing our campaign. please keep spreading it over to 100,000. >> well done . so by the end of >> well done. so by the end of the programme we should be up to 205,000. maybe. let's hope so.
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>> right. still to come this morning, good news for wages, good but such good news, but not such good news the unemployment front, news on the unemployment front, which seems a bit strange because to job because there appears to be job vacancies. everywhere go at vacancies. everywhere i go at the moment, we're going to
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>> good morning. >> so wages have risen for millions of workers in the uk, according to official figures from the of national from the office of national statistics six. >> it's highest growth rate >> it's the highest growth rate on but it's not great on record, but it's not great news borrowers. it news for mortgage borrowers. it puts pressure on the puts even more pressure on the bank england raise bank of england to raise interest it meets interest rates again as it meets next month . next month. >> so liam halligan is in the studio for feels like the studio for us. it feels like the economy us one hand and economy gives us one hand and takes with the other at the moment, it? takes with the other at the mo ordinarily it? takes with the other at the mo ordinarily we'd:? takes with the other at the mo ordinarily we'd be >> ordinarily we'd be celebrating fact that wage celebrating the fact that wage growth so high it's still growth is so high it's still lower inflation, by the lower than inflation, by the way, doesn't mean that way, but that doesn't mean that the isn't the bank of england isn't worried about let's just worried about it. let's just have quick the have a quick look at the numbers. public pay , numbers. so public sector pay, it's a bit weird. it's done in quarters. yeah. here comes the graphic andrew you love graphic. andrew i know you love a graphic. >> graphics. >> me graphics. >> me graphics. >> public sector pay between >> so public sector pay between march, april and may compared to march, april and may compared to march may in 2022 was march april and may in 2022 was up 7.7. that's the 4/5 of us who work in the private sector. so in commercial companies, that's the fastest increase in private sector pay that we've got on record . public sector pay was up record. public sector pay was up by slightly less 5.8. and that's
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the fastest increase for the fifth of us who work in the pubuc fifth of us who work in the public sector since 2001. now you're both noticed that those numbers are less than 8.7% and 8.7% is, of course, the current rate of inflation. an so wages are still all falling, as we say in real terms, but they are still adding to the costs of companies and those companies are passing those costs on. so they are still inflationary. and that's why i'm afraid and i've been arguing against it for many months. but when the mpc, the monetary policy committee, meets again in august, that we're probably going to see an increase in base rate, the increase in the base rate, the interest rate from possibly interest rate from 5, possibly to 5.5. >> why do they do it? drip, drip. i think when they first came round to the reality that many of us had warned about in late 2021 that inflation was coming and they went off with little quarter point increases, it was it was very slow and very cautious as the us federal
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reserve in contrast , went whack, reserve in contrast, went whack, whack, big interest rate rises from a low level, saying we are really serious about getting our arms around this. >> the bank of england in general has relied on smaller interest rate increases and that's why now it's playing catch up. that's one reason why we have the highest inflation in the us. >> inflation is half of ours, isn't it? >> us inflation is ours is >> us inflation is 4, ours is 8.7. that's partly because the us has had the shale revolution in there. energy costs are much , lower ours for their , much lower than ours for their companies when they companies and indeed when they fill their cars and vans with fill up their cars and vans with petrol diesel because petrol and diesel because taxation is so much less in the us on road fuel , this this us on road fuel, this this interest rate . interest rate. >> gosh, i can't believe we're saying it again. but this potential interest rate rise liam is this going to be how is this going to affect the housing market? we saw yesterday actually about the prices of the houses now starting to come down. >> w we're down. >> we're seeing now are the >> what we're seeing now are the pfices houses >> what we're seeing now are the prices houses down, not prices of houses come down, not as reported by the mortgage companies because they've been reporting lower house prices for a while. but even by the estate
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agents, it's because they're now estate to report estate agents tend to report asking prices rather than completed prices and asking pfices completed prices and asking prices are now coming down quite steeply. why? because people can't afford to bid higher pfices can't afford to bid higher prices because they can't borrow the money that underpins that bid, because so many hundreds of thousands of households are coming off these low fixed two and five year deals, fixed interest rates prior to december 2021 were 0.1% at the bank of england, which meant they were like 1, 1.5. if you were getting a two or a five year fix, well between now and the next general election, when we think it's going to be in october next yean going to be in october next year, 2 million households are going to come off those ultra low deals, be fully exposed to market interest rates for a mortgage. you know, 6, 6.5, 7. think of the proportionate increase, paying a mortgage at one and a half to 2% and then 6 or 7% up ending the family finances of millions of households .
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households. >> some people, older people, and i count myself as one of those. and you'll remember it came in the 90s when he called me old. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> just before black wednesday when interest rates were incredibly double incredibly high. double figures, 1,415% but were 1,415% they were. but we were paying 1,415% they were. but we were paying on much paying interest on a much smaller loan. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> house were >> because house prices were so low then. >> because house prices were so lowi:hen. >> because house prices were so lowi get. >> because house prices were so lowi get this a lot in my emails >> i get this a lot in my emails on twitter. people stop me in the street and they say, look, today's kids, don't today's kids, they don't realise how are. we were how lucky they are. we were paying how lucky they are. we were paying interest rates of 18 to 20, which you would if the base rate was 15. right but the difference back then, it's difference is back then, it's not because kids today are eating too many avocado sandwiches and flying too. they are a bit well , but they are are a bit well, but they are also paying instead for times also paying instead of for times the wage for a home. the average wage for a home. they're paying the they're paying ten times the average for a home they average wage for a home so they don't though so don't save though there's so much more. don't save though there's so mu thelore. don't save though there's so mu the whole generation, so much >> the whole generation, so much more indebted than they are. >> i think young people have always money in always spent their money in some of have saved. think of them have saved. i think a lot young people have given lot of young people have given up trying to buy a house. this is true because it keeps getting away and if they away from them. and if they
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haven't of mum and haven't got the bank of mum and dad, you know, a third of all first time buyers now use the bank of mum and dad. it's over half london and the half in london and the south—east. unfair for. >> yeah it is. >> yeah it is. >> but the that house >> but the fact that house pfices >> but the fact that house prices are coming down liam prices are coming down now, liam we think, terrible, we always think, oh terrible, our house prices are going down, but that will be better for some young people who might not be able on the ladden >> well, maybe prices are coming down, they've got to pay down, but they've got to pay much more for the money that they hand, on they it's on the one hand, on they it's on the one hand, on the other. the effect of the other. so the effect of ability of young people buy ability of young people to buy housesis ability of young people to buy houses is isn't getting easier just prices just because house prices are coming bit because coming down a bit because they're having pay so much they're having to pay so much more the money. what more to borrow the money. what today's housing market is great more to borrow the money. what toyou're|ousing market is great more to borrow the money. what toyou're|01if ng market is great more to borrow the money. what toyou're|01if you'rerket is great more to borrow the money. what toyou're|01if you're one is great more to borrow the money. what toyou're|01if you're one ofgreat more to borrow the money. what toyou're|01if you're one of thet if you're a if you're one of the very, very privileged few people who've a lot of money lying who've got a lot of money lying around, going to for be around, this is going to for be great right? great cash buyers. right? because people are because a lot of people are going to be selling their homes. yeah what we under distress yeah what we call under distress circumstances. need to sell circumstances. they need to sell because can't the because they can't afford the payments. sniff payments. and buyers will sniff that and they'll them payments. and buyers will sniff that for and they'll them payments. and buyers will sniff that for less they'll them payments. and buyers will sniff that for less thanll them payments. and buyers will sniff that for less thanll sellerem cash for less than the seller wanted to. >> actually talking which 10s
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russia continues , the government russia continues, the government will attempt to get its illegal migration bill through the house of commons after a number of concessions or a changes include limiting the detention periods of unaccompanied children and pregnant women. the legislation will no longer be used respectively , retrospectively respectively, retrospectively against people already in the uk. now the changes have been recommended by peers after the draft bill suffered 20 defeats in the house of lords and mortgage rates have hit their highest level in 15 years, surpassing figures seen that resulted from liz truss's mini—budget. the average two year fixed deal will now be 6.6. that's the highest level since the financial crash in 2008. lenders will be questioned by mps this morning on the treasury committee . more on all of our committee. more on all of our stories on our website, gbnews.com . direct bullion gb news.com. direct bullion
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along to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. another day of heavy showers across the country. some big downpours in a few spots. most of us seeing some sunny spells. so a good chance there'll be some rainbows around low pressure dominating low pressure has been dominating this front brought quite this weather front brought quite a of heavy across the a lot of heavy rain across the south yesterday evening. it's been out, still been fizzling out, but still providing of cloud providing quite a lot of cloud showers over wales , showers already over wales, northern england. they'll get heavier through day as they heavier through the day as they will northern scotland. will across northern scotland. slow thunderstorms here slow moving thunderstorms here could cause some problems with a lot of rain falling in a short space of time. we should see some sunny spells developing, particularly for northern ireland. degrees here, maybe ireland. 25 degrees here, maybe up the low across the up into the low 20s across the south—east. but for most, it feels cool with the brisk breeze, which will least move breeze, which will at least move the showers through this evening . winds across northern . lighter winds across northern scotland the slow moving scotland means the slow moving downpours will continue here well night and we'll well into the night and we'll see wet weather returning see more wet weather returning to the to northern ireland through the night but for a good night as well. but for a good chunk england wales, it chunk of england and wales, it will turn dry and clear. temperatures mostly holding up
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at about 13 or 14. as for wednesday , it's another day of wednesday, it's another day of sunshine and showers. it'll be a brighter start across east anglia in the south—east. good chance sunny start to chance of a sunny start to wednesday, but then the showers will get going once more, especially over northern england. again, parts of northern scotland and more tomorrow probably for northern ireland, but a chance of a drier afternoon across wales and southwest again, southwest england. and again, temperatures mostly in the high teens low 20s that warm teens and low 20s that warm feeling inside from boxed boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> we're off to westminster in just a moment. this is because of the stop the boats bill there being voted on later. it's all been voted on by later by with mps later today . you with gb mps later today. you with gb news britain's news channel. quick
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patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . gb news radio. 89 ulez britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> we're going to the commons because the newly amended amended wrecked illegal migration bill thanks to those unelected lords , is back in the unelected lords, is back in the commons today after 20 defeats the amended version has made many . it includes a reduction in many. it includes a reduction in detention of unaccompanied children from 28 days to eight days. >> that's right, all sorts of things. and the times is today reporting that the government is paying reporting that the government is paying half £1 million per day
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for empty hotel rooms just in case there is a surge in migrant numbers. >> it's a huge story and it's a mess. and the unelected house of lords drive us nuts, don't they? let's find out more from our deputy political editor, tom harwood there's no tory harwood tom. there's no tory majority house lords majority in the house of lords and of mps you speak and the number of mps you speak to i speak to are just absolutely fed up to the back teeth of them . teeth of them. >> they are indeed the conservatives hold about a third of the seats in the house of lords. two thirds being held by laboun lords. two thirds being held by labour, lib dem and what's known as crossbench peers as well. now they passed 20 different amendments to the illegal migration bill when it was in the house of lords. not so long ago, and it has now pinged back to the house of commons being voted on today. but there seems to have been some horse trading going on between the government andindeed going on between the government and indeed the house of lords because term parliamentary term ends next week, they will wrap up and go on holiday for the summer. the government is
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desperate to get this bill to off buckingham palace by the end off buckingham palace by the end of next week so it can receive royal assent and so its measures can start taking effect . and can start taking effect. and because of that time, pressure , because of that time, pressure, it appears the government has been doing some backroom dealing and it will be only trying to push back against 50. dean of those 20 lords amendments . so push back against 50. dean of those 20 lords amendments. so in some form or other, the government has accepted five of those amendments from the house of lords and will be hoping that that sort of to ing and froing will allow this bill to therefore pass both chambers and get off to the king next week , get off to the king next week, take some of those accepted measures from the house of lords by the government , include a by the government, include a almost it's being described as an amnesty 80 for 10,000 illegal migrants who have arrived up until this date by small boats. the original version of the
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illegal migration bill would have had everyone arriving by small boat by the date the bill was introduced , rather than was introduced, rather than received royal assent not be allowed to claim asylum . allowed to claim asylum. however, this amendment from the house of lords, accepted by the government, will mean the almost 10,000 arrivals in small boats up until the point the bill receives royal assent will still be able to claim asylum. so it stops that sort of retrospective active nature of the bill as currently proposed . however, currently proposed. however, there are areas where the government is standing strong as well , government is standing strong as well, particularly on the tightening up of measures around modern slavery. the government's not backing down on those . so not backing down on those. so particularly we might see some opposition to the government's even amended bill by people like theresa may later today. >> thank you, tom. thank you. you couldn't contain yourself
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there when tom said the government's being stolen. >> i was being strong. they should tell the house of lords to clear off and reinstate all those amendments. >> buxton nigel nelson, >> tanya buxton nigel nelson, what think this what do you think of this situation this bill now? situation with this bill now? >> i will support them. they'll support them. >> i understand that and >> so i understand that and describe , this idea as an describe this, this idea as an amnesty. it's absolutely ridiculous. it's not an amnesty for 10,000 miles migrants . all for 10,000 miles migrants. all it means is that the lords have said quite rightly , that said quite rightly, that retrospective law is bad law and so you do . laws should start so you do. laws should start when a bill becomes an act of parliament that is all they're saying. so these 10,000 people that are meant to have an amnesty, it doesn't mean they're going to be wandering around what it means is that they will be asylum claims will be be their asylum claims will be considered under the current rules and some of them will be sent back. not all of them will stay, reason it's not stay, but the reason it's not lawyers because the flipping lordships have scuppered it. well changed it . i well they've changed it. i
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haven't it. i mean, haven't scuppered it. i mean, the that the suella the idea is that they the suella braverman is making certain concessions . i mean, the idea of concessions. i mean, the idea of locking kids for 28 days. oh, locking up kids for 28 days. oh, it's was , was, was crazy. so it's not was, was, was crazy. so they reduced that to eight days. that's a sensible amendment . it that's a sensible amendment. it means that the government can pass this bill. i don't think it's going to do very much good. but they're going to they'll pass the bill anyway . and all pass the bill anyway. and all the lords have done is which is what they're there for is, is made some sensible amendments to what was actually a very bad bill. >> there's nothing sensible about the way that we're dealing with these that with these these migrants that are there's nothing are coming over. there's nothing sensible it at all. it sensible about it at all. and it is an amnesty. these 10,000 people going off scot people are going to get off scot free because wrong 10,000 free because the wrong 10,000 people. that we should people. i think that we should be having not we should be having should be having this having we should be having this for people, mothers children for people, mothers and children , young , not economically viable. young men, which is what who are coming off these boats. we've just the problem is you just the problem is, is you can't speak without being can't plain speak without being called kind of racist or called some kind of racist or being called names. making being called names. we're making a this, too many people
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a hash of this, too many people arriving country. we arriving in this country. we cannot we don't cannot support them. we don't have schools , 3.5 billion a have the schools, 3.5 billion a day a year, rather, to support them. that that means that the homeless aren't getting supported. our homeless , our supported. our homeless, our kids aren't getting levelling up isn't happening. all the money that's coming in because that's not coming in because it's going to these immigrants, this and can this needs to stop. and can i just say one time, they are just say one more time, they are not war torn countries. not leaving war torn countries. they are leaving france and they can't go to france. can't go back to france. >> to interrupt you both. >> sorry to interrupt you both. >> sorry to interrupt you both. >> a little bit of >> we have a little bit of breaking news. >> prime minister >> it's the prime minister >> it's the prime minister >> prime minister has been speaking to broadcasters this morning. listen . morning. let's have a listen. >> well, it's great to be here in lithuania for the nato summit . i think the last 500 days of putin's war in ukraine has reminded us of the enduring unity and importance of this very special military alliance, which the uk has been at the heart of for its entire time of its existing instance. i think priorities for this summit are to strengthen that alliance so that can the threats of that we can face the threats of the future and protect ourselves adequately against them, but
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also continue supporting also to continue supporting ukraine in the face of russian aggression so that they can continue fight for their continue to fight for their freedom. the war has proven freedom. what the war has proven is do matter and is that soldiers do matter and the general , is that soldiers do matter and the general, your top the top general, your top general to nato, has said that effective the uk is losing influence or could lose influence or could lose influence due to the size of the army. >> but are you happy that the army is small and getting smaller? i think the uk should be incredibly proud of the leading role that we play, not just in nato but across the world and protecting security andindeed world and protecting security and indeed investing in our armed forces. and indeed investing in our armed forlzs. and indeed investing in our armed fori was chancellor, >> when i was chancellor, i oversaw the largest increase in defence spending end defence spending since the end of the war, most recently of the cold war, most recently in the budget, billions more again for our armed forces. now why? but that's because the threats face are sadly threats that we face are sadly increasing. it's right that increasing. and it's right that we protect ourselves we invest to protect ourselves against that. and that's not just investing in the army, but across all armed forces, but across all our armed forces, but crucially, strengthening our alliances countries alliances with other countries around world. we have a new around the world. we have a new submarine partnership with the americans and the australians. we're building the next generation fighter jets with
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generation of fighter jets with the japanese and the italians and all of that. not only is good our security, it's also good for our security, it's also creating jobs at creating thousands of jobs at home across the united kingdom . home across the united kingdom. every corner of our country is benefiting from the investment in defence that we're putting in and the that it's creating. and the jobs that it's creating. >> just a few more questions on other topics. acas first of all, >> just a few more questions on otithe opics. acas first of all, >> just a few more questions on otithe bbc, acas first of all, >> just a few more questions on otithe bbc, what; first of all, >> just a few more questions on otithe bbc, what was;t of all, >> just a few more questions on otithe bbc, what was yourall, on the bbc, what was your reaction when you heard about the allegations against a certain bbc presenter? >> very >> well, obviously they're very serious and concerning allegations , actions, and that's allegations, actions, and that's why pleased that culture why i'm pleased that the culture secretary to the director secretary spoke to the director general the bbc over the general of the bbc over the weekend and is confident that the bbc is investigating this both rigorously and rapidly . i both rigorously and rapidly. i think that's the right course of action. >> what would you say to people on social media? indeed some mps who say they might use parliamentary privilege to try and this presenter. and name this presenter. >> look, we an existing >> look, we have an existing set of govern free speech of laws that govern free speech and privacy. i think it's important that the bbc conducts this quickly this investigation quickly and rigorously , given the concerning rigorously, given the concerning and serious nature of the allegations. >> and just on while we were on
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the plane, we heard that fixed rate mortgages are now at the highest for 15 years. uk highest level for 15 years. uk to power to sort out. liz truss mess. it seems that things are getting worse under your watch. >> i know things are difficult for many families up and down the country with cost of the country with the cost of living the uk is not alone living and the uk is not alone in experiencing rise in in experiencing a rise in interest rates. very similar in america, australia, canada, new zealand for example. the crucial thing that we have to do is bfing thing that we have to do is bring inflation down. that's how we're going to ease the burden on that's how we're to on families. that's how we're to going in going stop the increase in interest rates. and that's why my first priority is to halve inflation. and now, of course, that proving to more that is proving to be more persistent thought . persistent than people thought. but mean that the but it doesn't mean that the course is we've course of action is wrong. we've got stick to it. i'm got to stick to it. i'm determined to bring inflation down. the best way that down. that's the best way that we can ease the cost living we can ease the cost of living pressures families pressures that families are facing. and i'm absolutely determined to coui'se. >> course. >> just very, very finally, >> and just very, very finally, one are one last question. mps are debating the migration bill today in parliament. you've got a stop the boats. a pledge to stop the boats. let's be very frank about that.
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what mean? does that what does that mean? does that mean the next mean by the time of the next election when you the election when you face the british public again, no british public again, that no one cross the english one will cross the english channel illegally? one will cross the english chawhen llegally? one will cross the english chawhenlleganut that priority >> when i set out that priority to stop the the to stop the boats at the beginning of this year, i was very then that this wasn't very clear then that this wasn't going easy and weren't going to be easy and we weren't going to be easy and we weren't going to be able to solve this problem overnight. am problem overnight. but i am determined and determined and to do it. and that's why i am. the government are committed making progress are committed to making progress on of tackling this on every aspect of tackling this problem, making on every aspect of tackling this prob that making on every aspect of tackling this prob that we making on every aspect of tackling this prob that we provide making on every aspect of tackling this prob that we provide alternative sure that we provide alternative accommodation people out accommodation to get people out of whether it's working of hotels, whether it's working through backlog, of hotels, whether it's working througwe've backlog, of hotels, whether it's working througwe've cut backlog, of hotels, whether it's working througwe've cut by backlog, of hotels, whether it's working througwe've cut by almost g, which we've cut by almost a fifth, whether it's returning illegal migrants to albania , illegal migrants to albania, where now returned almost where we've now returned almost 2000 illegal migrants to albania and crucially, why we as a government are bringing forward the toughest laws to tackle this problem that any government has ever done. laws which, by the way, have been opposed at every turn by labour party. i turn by the labour party. i don't think that's right because i country wants the i think the country wants the government problem. government to grip this problem. that's determined to that's what i'm determined to do. i'm throwing absolutely everything it and i won't everything at it and i won't stop boat does not stop but stop the boat does not
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mean boats. stopping mean no boats. stopping the boats across all these boats means across all these issues, fixing them, stopping people coming. and that's why the laws that put in the new laws that we've put in place important , and place are so important, and that's it's concerning the that's why it's concerning the labour blocked at labour party has blocked them at every that's what we're every turn. that's what we're seeing right now. that's not the priority the british people. priority of the british people. the want this the british people want this problem requires problem stopped. that requires new what i've new laws. that's what i've brought . but that's brought forward. but that's not all we're we want to get all we're doing. we want to get people out of hotels. so we're finding alternative sites. we want to return people to albania. that's why we have a new deal and want to cut new deal and we want to cut through asylum backlog, through the asylum backlog, which a fifth. which is always down by a fifth. i want people to know i'm absolutely determined fix absolutely determined to fix this throwing this problem and i'm throwing everything got at it. everything i've got at it. >> prime minister, thank you very much very much. >> prime minister, thank you venwell,h very much. >> prime minister, thank you venwell, thaty much. >> prime minister, thank you venwell, that was jch. >> prime minister, thank you venwell, that was the prime >> well, that was the prime minister, the nato summit in vilnius, we're vilnius, in lithuania. we're going our going to carry on talking to our lovely panel, nigel nigel evans. who's evans? he's he's who's nigel evans? he's he's a deputy speaker house and deputy speaker of the house and he's promoted. party he's been promoted. he's a party you're keen on. you're not very keen on. >> a knighthood. >> you've got a knighthood. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> nigel nelson and sonia buxton. let's talk about the bbc. >> right. >> right. >> well, you know, the bbc has formed things very
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formed for not doing things very well, so that's what i can say about it, really. they've got form not doing very form for not doing things very well. jimmy savile, well. we know jimmy savile, jimmy and also jimmy savile and also and also what they to cliff richard. what they did to cliff richard. shocking so there's those two things. one, that they covered up. one, they just hung an innocent think they're innocent man. so i think they're trying it right. but they trying to do it right. but they won't do it right. they'll do it wrong. and it's mean , i think wrong. and it's i mean, i think in the papers one, they said that one six out of ten people of the british public know who this is about. so it's just it's ridiculous. out ridiculous. it should come out and the presenter should actually come out and say something themselves. >> what i wonder. >> well, that's what i wonder. now, do it. whether it's now, tony, do it. whether it's because because because that presenter because there two very there have been two very powerful today. the powerful statements today. the police the moment police saying at the moment there's no threshold that suggest has suggest a crime has been committed. alleged committed. the alleged victim saying, i'm not a victim, no crime was committed , maybe the crime was committed, maybe the presenter out and presenter should come out and say i'm, i'm sorry, this is something maybe that wasn't necessary . really ethical, necessary. really ethical, moral. however you want to phrase it. but not illegal. not
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illegal if it wasn't illegal. yeah i wonder whether that would put it . put it. >> that strikes me as the answer. and it was interesting that rishi sunak wouldn't answer the question about how he would feel about using feel about mps using parliamentary farage parliamentary privilege farage to name the presenter. so because that was around a lot yesterday, nigel, that somebody , somebody some mps were going to do, yes. >> i mean the speaker would take a view. a very dim view. >> used to stop it. it used >> it used to stop it. it used to happen a bit. i mean the reason the bbc say they haven't done so is because of done it so far is because of privacy and employment privacy laws and employment laws. okay think you're laws. okay i think you're absolutely right that having got to this stage , the presenter to this stage, the presenter himself should come forward. >> i think the newspapers should come forward. >> if it's not legal anymore. so we know nothing illegal has happened. >> well, we don't know because the newspaper are doubling down saying to our saying we're sticking to our guns. otherwise guns. oh so because otherwise then it's just it's a gossip story and it should you know, the problem course, the problem is, of course, there's suggestion these the problem is, of course, therindividualsestion these the problem is, of course, therindividuals have] these the problem is, of course, therindividuals have ever these the problem is, of course, therindividuals have ever evene two individuals have ever even met in real life, that it's just been an exchange of images.
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>> very difficult from an >> it's very difficult from an image how somebody image to tell how old somebody is if and the law is such is and if and the law is such that you have to be over 18 to be in these pictures. if the alleged claimant we know now isn't a claimant, is not was under 18 but said that they weren't then it's very difficult for anybody who's who's accepted those photos to say well all they can say is i thought they were 18. >> well, i mean, it's difficult. this is where the police have got to decide whether an offence might been committed might might have been committed and it could just end up being this was inappropriate this was an inappropriate relationship between the presenter and this young person. >> yes. who is now we now know he's he's 20. and apparently there were 2 or 3 years, if it's inappropriate, does that preclude this person from continuing to be a presenter ? continuing to be a presenter? >> well, that's the big the bbc. that's the big question on the bafis that's the big question on the basis that it's such a big scandal , the have obviously scandal, the bbc have obviously handled from the handled it badly from the beginning. they as they beginning. they just as they always they could always do, they could they could have could have actually always do, they could they could have that could have actually always do, they could they could have that better.1ave actually always do, they could they could have that better. yeah, ctually always do, they could they could have that better. yeah, but lly always do, they could they could have that better. yeah, but this done that better. yeah, but this is why i think that the
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presenter ought to present his own case here, and then we can determine whether his career might be over. >> and i don't think, given what we know. so far, i don't think that career should necessarily be over. if what we see as the facts at the moment. >> i make a prediction , then >> i make a prediction, then it's over. >> it really be it's over. >> it really should be over. i think, you know, the people that get these on the ground or get these jobs on the ground or bbc and hold themselves so that such airs and graces, you such high airs and graces, you know tell us how to know how they tell us how to think, we should be. the bbc think, how we should be. the bbc has in manner has never behaved in a manner that's acceptable to me. well they should their job. they should lose their job. >> we've got to move on >> tanya, we've got to move on in next few moments. will in the next few moments. we will be latest on that be getting the latest on that bbc with a top bbc centre scandal with a top legal commentator. and don't forget boss the bbc, tim forget the boss of the bbc, tim davie, is talking journalists davie, is talking to journalists this about this morning. he thinks about presenters don't think presenters pay. i don't think we'll to him we'll be talking to him about that at all. >> we gb news britain's >> no, we are gb news britain's news channel. >> channel. news channel. >> the channel. news channel. >> the temperature's rising. boxed solar proud of boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> i'm alex deakin and welcome
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gb news, it's 11 am. on tuesday the 11th of july. >> this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so the prime minister has weighed into the scandal, weighed into the bbc scandal, saying has been assured saying that he has been assured that allegations the that the allegations against the broadcaster investigated broadcaster will be investigated swiftly rigorously . our home swiftly and rigorously. our home security editor has been monitoring well here at new broadcasting house as we speak, the director general of the bbc, tim davie, is currently starting a briefing with members of the press. >> it's supposed to be about the annual report , but it's going to annual report, but it's going to be dominated by questions over this latest scandal to engulf the corporate creation .
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the corporate creation. >> and, of course, we'll bring you the latest from that briefing with tim davie, the director general. now the prime minister, rishi sunak, is in lithuania morning at the lithuania this morning at the nato urging nato leaders summit. he's urging all meet their all countries to meet their defence spending targets. guess who france and germany who doesn't? france and germany and you are wonderful. >> the number of signatures on our don't kill cash campaign has surpassed 200,000in the last houn surpassed 200,000in the last hour. just days after it was launched. add your name to the petition to guarantee the future of physical money in your pocket we'd love to know what you think about all of our stories this morning. i'm so pleased about the don't kill cash really amazing. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address as always, but here is your latest news. first with . aaron with. aaron >> hello there. it's 11:01.
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with. aaron >> hello there. it's11:01. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the prime minister says allegations made against a bbc presenter are shocking and concerning. the corporation's under pressure over how it's handled . claims an unnamed star handled. claims an unnamed star paid a teenager thousands of pounds for explicit photos. the sun says the parents of the young person are standing by their account, despite a lawyer for the now 20 year old saying nothing unlawful happened. the bbc's director general, tim davie, will be questioned by reporters shortly over the issue. the prime minister was asked whether mps could use parliament privilege to name the suspended presenter . suspended presenter. >> we have an existing set of laws that govern free speech and privacy . i think it's important privacy. i think it's important that the bbc conducts this investigation quickly and rigorously. given the concerning and serious nature of the allegations . allegations. >> well, the prime minister is on his way to the nato summit in lithuania, where ukraine is hoping to be given security guarantees for its war against russia . ukraine wants clarity russia. ukraine wants clarity about when and how it will be
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allowed to join nato, although allies are split about the way forward, secretary general jens stoltenberg believes a pathway for membership to the defensive alliance will be defined . alliance will be defined. >> i also expect that allies will send a clear and positive message on the path forward towards a membership for ukraine, and i have proposed a package of three elements with more practical support, with a multi—year programme to ensure full interoperability between the ukrainian forces and the nato forces . this is move. this nato forces. this is move. this will move ukraine closer to nato i >> -- >> the government may face further hurdles when its illegal migration bill returns to the commons later. despite a number of amendments , concessions of amendments, concessions include limiting the detention pefiod include limiting the detention period of unaccompanied children and pregnant women in an effort to overcome safeguards concerns. another change will prevent people who've already entered the uk without permission from
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being removed retrospectively . a being removed retrospectively. a draft of the controversial bill, though, suffered a record 20 defeats in the house of lords as mortgage rates have hit their highest level in 15 years, surpassing figures seen in the aftermath of last year's mini—budget the average rates on a two year fixed deal is now 6.66. that's the highest level since the financial crisis of 2008. lenders are currently being questioned by mps from the treasury committee . interest treasury committee. interest rates set by the bank of england have continued to rise in an effort to bring down inflation and the chancellor, jeremy hunt, says that remains the government's priority . government's priority. >> we will do what is necessary for as long as necessary to tackle inflation. persistence and bring it back to the 2% target delivery . sound money is target delivery. sound money is our number one focus that means taking responsible decisions on pubuc taking responsible decisions on public finances, including pubuc public finances, including public sector pay, because more
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borrowing is itself inflationary i >> however, the pace of wage growth has risen again, prompting fears of a further hike in interest rates next month. average weekly pay is 7.3% higher in the three months to may, compared with last year matching the joint highest figure since records began in 2001. the office for national statistics also revealed unemployment rose unexpected over the 3:45, a teacher stabbed at a school in tewkesbury in gloucestershire is recovering well after being discharged from hospital . a teenage boy, though, hospital. a teenage boy, though, is being questioned on suspicion of attempted murder after his teacher, jamie sansom, was stabbed in a secondary school corridor on monday. tewkesbury school says it's providing additional mental and emotional support for its students and staff . the european court of staff. the european court of human rights has ruled the two time olympic champion caster semenya has been discriminated against by world athletics . the
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against by world athletics. the 800 metre runner has a condition which means she produces higher levels of testosterone. now she was banned from competing after refusing to take drugs to lower tests testerone levels. well, the court ruled this violates her human rights and she has not been given sufficient safeguards. after making complaints . safeguards. after making complaints. train fares safeguards. after making complaints . train fares could be complaints. train fares could be reduced under a plan to encourage more competition on britain's railways . new research britain's railways. new research says allowing multiple operators to run services on the same line will lead to better services. newer trains and cheaper fares. rail partners, which represents private train companies and carried out the research, is calling for open access to allow more companies to compete for customers . the same that happens customers. the same that happens in many other european countries . that's it for the moment from the news desk here. we will bfing the news desk here. we will bring you more as it happens. but now it is back to andrew and
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bev . bev. >> well, the prime minister has described the crisis at the bbc over the presenter and the unnamed young person who apparently in some form of financial relationship exchanging in decent images as shocking and concerning and says the allegations must be investigated swiftly and rigorously . rigorously. >> mark white is at broadcasting house for us this morning . house for us this morning. morning, mark. i think actually where the prime minister was absolutely right about this was about the speed and to some extent this should have been sorted out more quickly to either find evidence of a crime or if not to defend the presenter . or if not to defend the presenter. surely if no crime had been committed . had been committed. >> yeah, i think on the fifth day of revelations about this particular story, it is as complex as ever. but we certainly seem to be at a point
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where we're getting an indication from the parents, the mother and the stepfather of this young person that they are completely dissatisfied with the response that they had from the bbc when they made initial allegations to them back in may that they say simply were not acted upon . and that is what acted upon. and that is what they say prompted them to go to the sun newspaper with their allegations and this is where we are now . we, of course, have the are now. we, of course, have the added complicating factor of the fact that the young person at the centre of these allegations has has issued a statement through their lawyers saying that the allegations are rubbish. having said that, though, the parents are sticking by their version of events and indeed the sun newspaper continues to stick by its story. now what's happening here at new
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broadcasting house is that a press briefing is under way. it's an off camera briefing for journalists . it's all about the journalists. it's all about the bbc's annual report. always gets a great deal of interest every year anyway, because it's about the year that's passed to future direction of the corporation and of course, the issue of presenters salaries, which is always of great interest to members of the press like us and the wider public as well. but today it is being dominated by questions over this alleged scandal engulf the corporation. now the added complication for us in telling you what's going on is we can't, not at the moment , because on is we can't, not at the moment, because this is an embargoed briefing. but at 12:00, we'll be able to break the lines from that briefing. what we can say, i think what i can say without going into the detail is that at the start of
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this briefing , which just begun this briefing, which just begun a couple of minutes ago, they did say that they will address this current scandal . they will this current scandal. they will take questions from journalists on it as well. so let's see what more we learn from them. the bbc, in terms of the central allegations about what the parents of this individual suggest , that the bbc were slow suggest, that the bbc were slow to act or didn't act at all as far as they were concerned . far as they were concerned. >> all right. that's mark white at broadcasting house for us, joshua rozenberg, the legal commentators here with us. joshua, this is a fascinating one, isn't it? we've got a victim who says they are not a victim. the parents of this person says this person is a victim. we still don't know the name of the presenter . and we name of the presenter. and we now know the police who've said at this point they're not investigating, haven't spoken to the or young the presenter or the young person in. >> right. and if they >> that's right. and if they
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were to speak to the young person, from what we understand from person, that from the young person, that individual necessarily individual would not necessarily be complaint against be making a complaint against the presenter for the young the bbc. presenter for the young person says that nothing happened and therefore for what is there for the police to investigate. only the allegations of this young parent, the young person's parents. >> which leaves the son presumably swinging on a bit of a legal hook. >> the sun has reported what the parents told it . there are parents told it. there are questions about whether the sun knew about the denial by the 20 year old and if they did, when they knew about it and if they knew about it , should they have knew about it, should they have reported this earlier? but that's a matter for the sun and its readers. i'm sure the sun would want to report things properly. and if there's a denial, it would be normal to pubush denial, it would be normal to publish it. whether you accept it or not. so yes, there are questions for the sun, but on the other hand, the sun has deliberately not named the bbc presenter and to that extent the sun has avoided , i suppose, the
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sun has avoided, i suppose, the lawsuit that would follow if the sun had made allegations about the presenter that it couldn't prove were true. >> what of the position we're in because of this privacy law? joshua i don't remember parliament a privacy parliament passing a privacy law. is judges in hitting law. this is judges in hitting the human rights act, isn't it? back 1998 and a big shift back from 1998 and a big shift after cliff richard was subjected to the bbc foolishly , subjected to the bbc foolishly, recklessly with public money shoving a helicopter above his house while the police were searching it on and there was no evidence against him anyway, that's perfectly true . that's perfectly true. >> parliament certainly did pass the human rights act. and if you remember at the time the act was passed in 1998, there was a move by the courts to create a law of privacy. naomi campbell cases like that. and i think the courts would have done so anyway. but you're absolutely right. is made law, right. this is judge made law, it's judge made law, brought about by choice of about by the choice of journalists to fight these cases. the bbc fought cliff richard bloomberg fought an individual who was under
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investigation for suspected crimes and they wanted to name him . so as a result of this, the him. so as a result of this, the courts have developed this law of privacy. it's judge made. courts have developed this law of privacy. it'sjudge made. it of privacy. it's judge made. it depends on the cases. it's not clear . but depends on the cases. it's not clear. but you can see why everybody in the media is cautious about not invading the privacy of this bbc presenter. >> bbc obviously have a safeguarding obligation mission, and that's effectively what this would come down to is there a possibility that they could be any sort of in any sort of legal trouble they could if they were to throw this presenter under the bus? >> if these allegations turn out to be entirely untrue and if they had made named their presenter, if they had. well, they're obviously suspended, which is fairly standard. but yes, i don't think you can read anything into suspended. they were under pressure to do that. somebody can be reinstated after being suspended . pay would being suspended. pay would continue and so on. once the position is clear, then we all
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move on. so i don't think suspending is a problem. but if they'd sacked him on the basis of this allegation , which they of this allegation, which they hadnt of this allegation, which they hadn't thoroughly investigated and the allegation by the parents turns out not to be true. and the response by the young person does turn out to be true. they would certainly be in trouble. and i'm sure they would be concerned about the welfare of this presenter , who is of this presenter, who is obviously facing career breaking allegations . allegations. >> and this presenter may argue to with out being named a lot of people know who it is. you look at my own newspapers today, joshua the mail it says 1 in 6 already know that will have gone up and people stopped me and said, oh we know who it is. we've been following social media. i said, you can't be certain . you can't be certain. certain. you can't be certain. >> that's perfectly true. you can't be certain . the bbc said a can't be certain. the bbc said a certain amount about the presenter, which enabled people to draw certain inferences , to draw certain inferences, whether the bbc was wise to do
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thatis whether the bbc was wise to do that is up to the to bbc answer . the bbc is in a difficult position in. but. but yes , position in. but. but yes, people think they know and you know how journalism works. sooner or later a name will come out, but people are very concerned , i think rightly so . concerned, i think rightly so. first of all, not to get it wrong. and some of the people have gotit wrong. and some of the people have got it wrong because you know that all these people were wrongly named over the weekend. people like nicky campbell, jeremy vine, came yesterday jeremy vine, who came yesterday and me. and they and said, it's not me. and they were the so we know it's were on the air, so we know it's not so, there are not them. so, so there are concerns about people who get it wrong. yes, if the, if the wrong. but yes, if the, if the name is out and it's certainly known in newsrooms, yeah. then perhaps the presenter would want to say something. >> what the who? yesterday we might have called the complaint and now they would say, well, i wasn't complaining about anything. it was only my parents. what could you envisage a whereby they spoke
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a situation whereby they spoke out publicly at this stage now and maybe collaborated with the newspaper and said, i want to give my side of the story. >> we know that the young person has issued a statement through lawyers . we know that 20 year lawyers. we know that 20 year olds don't normally have access to west end lawyers because they're so expensive, because they're so expensive, because they're so expensive, and because you wouldn't know who they were, you wouldn't have you know, how would you have got in touch with how would they touch with them? how would they have on? so have known to take you on? so there have been somebody there must have been somebody who assisted this young person to with the to get in contact with the lawyers the statement lawyers who made the statement on the year old and on behalf of the 20 year old and if there is somebody assisting the young person, it's perfectly possible they may say to the young here's your chance young person, here's your chance to either for to give an interview, either for money or because you want to set the record straight. we don't know. >> it's the people still watching will be thinking, listening . why didn't the mum listening. why didn't the mum and dad if they were so concerned, just go to the police 7 concerned, just go to the police ? perhaps they didn't realise , ? perhaps they didn't realise, joshua, that technically if as
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they argue this relation ship exchanging images began at 17, that that was in fact against the law because most people would assume the age of consent is 16. you're old enough to make a decision. but of course, under the law you're not. you have to be 18. >> it's perfectly true. that is what of children what the protection of children act there are all sorts of act says. there are all sorts of questions about how the parents acted in the interests of acted in the best interests of this young person. now 20, you know, we we're told that this young person has a crack cocaine addiction . any parent would be addiction. any parent would be concerned about that. of course , we're told that the parents and this young person are estranged . well, that's not estranged. well, that's not unusual. estranged. well, that's not unusual . 20 year olds, you know, unusual. 20 year olds, you know, they live their own lives. they don't do what their parents do. youngsters even younger than 20 don't always do what their parents do. there are a lot of questions about this. there certainly are. it is highly unusual, though, you've unusual, though, if you've fallen your teenage son fallen out with your teenage son
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or daughter to go to a newspaper with that particular set of circum stances. >> yes. >> yes. >> the story that the sun tells is that they approached the bbc. they didn't get the response they wanted, and therefore they thought, well, we better go to the newspapers. after all, this is allegation against high is an allegation against a high profile person. the newspapers would as indeed profile person. the newspapers would been as indeed profile person. the newspapers would been six as indeed profile person. the newspapers would been six weeks.; indeed profile person. the newspapers would been six weeks. indeedi it had been six weeks. indeed and then all this is disputed . and then all this is disputed. what was the response ? i dare what was the response? i dare say that if you are a television presenter , then all sorts of presenter, then all sorts of people make all sorts of allegations. >> yes, i think it must happen all the time. >> and you know, the people in the back office have to decide how to deal with it. you know, there are people out there who are very strange and make very strange allegations. and just because an because somebody makes an allegation, of because somebody makes an allseems|, of because somebody makes an allseems outrageous, of because somebody makes an allseems outrageous, it of because somebody makes an allseems outrageous, it doesn't it, seems outrageous, it doesn't mean employer , whether mean that the employer, whether it's broadcaster or anybody it's a broadcaster or anybody else, to deal else, is to going jump to deal with equally , if there are with this equally, if there are serious concerns raised, then an employer would want to deal with
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them. see, normally them. you see, normally an organisation is corporations, particularly somebody as big as the bbc are good at dealing the bbc are very good at dealing with these sorts things. with these sorts of things. >> think the bbc has >> i don't think the bbc has been that's the trouble, been though that's the trouble, but highlights, but this is what it highlights, doesn't they've got form for doesn't it? they've got form for not. >> there should be such swift >> there should be such a swift set prime minister's set to use the prime minister's word, swift set of that word, a swift set of boxes. that must ticked, protocol that must be ticked, protocol that must be ticked, protocol that must to, to either must be adhered to, to either find a smoking gun which requires the interventions of the police or to find non, at which point you can then defend your talent. and yet they appear to have done nothing on what, as mark was saying, is day 4 or 5. >> yeah there's are perfectly good questions, which i hope our colleagues are putting to tim davie , director—general at the davie, director—general at the moment and i'm sure that tim davie would want to say as much as he can. he certainly need us to explain either what's happened or why he can't explain what's happened. yeah for all we know, there may be very good reasons why the bbc has chosen not to announce any more than it
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has us. but i don't see why it can't give some indication to the public of the reasons why it has so far said very little, just fine people watching and listening are thinking, this is so infuriating. >> all three of them know who it is and why aren't we entitled to why? why aren't we grown up enough told? enough to be told? >> think we know. yeah, but >> we think we know. yeah, but none of us is going to say unless it's announced. >> i and i still maintain >> and i and i still maintain innocent until proven guilty. and i think in an age of trial by media, i think it's absolutely right that we don't say the name of this person. >> a rum one. this one. >> it's a rum one. this one. joshua, we've covered a few of these in our time, but this is a rum one. i've got to say, the bbc attract these stories. bbc does attract these stories. >> certainly do. >> they certainly do. >> they certainly do. >> joshua rosenberg, >> that's joshua rosenberg, the legal commentator. >> going >> all right. we're going to have tanya and nigel back in the studio now. and we're studio any minute now. and we're going to talking about all going to be talking about all sorts things, including sorts of things, including the channel migrants and this so—called amnesty on 10,000 of them arrived the small them who arrived on the small boats and also joe biden's meeting with rishi sunak yesterday exactly make a
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yesterday didn't exactly make a lot waves, did although lot of waves, did it? although joe biden absolutely ignored protocol when came to meeting protocol when it came to meeting the king >> i'm we're going to go back to that school .uk, of course, where teacher was
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>> well, let's see what you've been saying, because a lot of people are getting involved in the house of lords and of course, cash, lee says, just sign do sign the petition. i'll do anything. sign the petition. i'll do anyoh,g. sign the petition. i'll do anyoh, well done. i'm quite >> oh, well done. i'm quite hungry this morning. >> lee, can you bring us a croissant? we've had breakfast, jonathan cash jonathan says. i always use cash in cafes. i don't want in pubs and cafes. i don't want hundreds transactions my hundreds of transactions on my statements. anyone statements. i don't want anyone to to track my movements to be able to track my movements or habits from my personal spending. anonymity is a marvellous should marvellous thing which should be protected from protected and i love this from derek, says, when vlad derek, who says, when vlad cuts the you who that is? >> no internet cash will be king. or possibly carrots. >> quite right. and this on the immigration bill, which being immigration bill, which is being discussed again today. colin from please set up from essex says, please set up another to remove the another petition to remove the house lords. i don't think house of lords. i don't think we're do that. the we're going to do that. the british people don't want these undemocratic, thwarting british people don't want these undwillcratic, thwarting british people don't want these undwillcratic, people.thwarting the will of the people. >> and ian us, who's >> and ian from us, who's running country, the elected running the country, the elected government with a 60 plus majority, the majority, 70 plus or the unelected house lords. unelected house of lords. i think, know the latter. it's think, you know the latter. it's the latter. the lords they've they've absolutely up they've absolutely messed up that they've absolutely messed up tha sometimes the house of lords >> sometimes the house of lords is of common sense is a good dose of common sense on that , well, it's
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on decisions that, well, it's a revising chamber. >> that's his make. >> that's his job make. >> that's his job make. >> and sometimes they get it right. they're definitely not getting right. getting it right on this right. moving the prime minister moving on, the prime minister will world leaders will today tell world leaders to increase their military budgets to deter vladimir putin at a major nato summit in lithuania. >> going to back further >> he's going to back further support for ukraine with a recommendation all members, which has been around since 2014, spend their 2014, actually spend 2% of their economic output on defence. currently, it's only done by 11 out of 31. britain in the us are among those 11, so let's speak now to greg swanson, chair of republicans overseas. >> morning , greg. good to see you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> thank you forjoining us. i think you're in america. if you got up very early for us this morning, well done. >> yeah, i'm in chicago. yeah >> yeah, i'm in chicago. yeah >> okay. super. what do you see as a fair distribution of gdp in terms of protecting the rights and the needs and the necessity of nato ? of nato? >> well, obviously , dodi the >> well, obviously, dodi the rest of the members , the other rest of the members, the other than the seven who are meeting their obligation of 2, the rest
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of nato has to get above 2, almost immediately. it's really atrocious that they have not the average spending right now is 1.6% of gdp, and that is completely inadequate. i think they should probably move it up to 3. ultimately, even the uk is only just slightly above 2. so i think the right number is probably three. the united states, which obviously is the most important member in nato , most important member in nato, they should be at 5 to 6. they should be you know, the us should be you know, the us should be you know, the us should be back at traditional levels that you saw in the 80s before the divvied end, after the soviet union broke up. right now it's at the all time low except for that piece dividend pefiod except for that piece dividend period in the 90s. it's going to dip below 3. president biden has cut defence spending 3% in real terms, which in this world is hard to believe and dangerous for the world. and it's good old great britain still paying our fair share.
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>> greg but wealthy countries like france and germany are simply not. that's correct. >> i mean, that is unbelievable that the world's third largest economy in germany and the largest economy in europe is not paying largest economy in europe is not paying 2% of their gdp. it shows the hypocrisy of the sort of lecture culture that you see in the eu . and then, you know, the eu. and then, you know, germany is always at the front of the line in france as well with the with the lectures or the virtue signalling. and yet they don't, you know, they don't spend their, their fair amount. so that's that has to change. and again i'm glad the uk is one of the seven countries you know the second most important defence member in nato and yet i think it's inadequate as well. i think it's inadequate as well. i think they should be at 3. >> greg, we can't let you go without reflecting on biden's absolutely boring visit to the uk yesterday. managed to make no headunes uk yesterday. managed to make no headlines apart from the things that he got wrong as usual and the fact that you apparently are going to be meeting one of my
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heroes, desantis, this heroes, ron desantis, this evening. that's right, yes. >> yeah, i'm here in chicago. there's a there's an event here. he's he's making rounds both he's he's making the rounds both campaigning fund raising campaigning and fund raising here. here in the midwest. so i look forward to that. >> yeah. how do you think biden did then here? >> well, it wasn't horrible in the sense that he didn't have any major gaffes. he looked a little when he was with little lost when he was with king charles yesterday . king charles yesterday. obviously, know, we manage obviously, you know, we manage expectations with president biden, so there was no real disaster . biden, so there was no real disaster. but, yes, it was boring. you're absolutely right. i mean, he he he talked the talk. he talked about the special relationship the special relationship and the friendship . yet was no friendship. and yet there was no action. he didn't talk about a trade deal. he didn't talk about anything material royal. and he surely didn't talk about ben wallace and those of us, you know, conservatives in us, know, conservatives in the us, much the uk, were really much like in the uk, were really disappointed in the president. so he's really shown that he's no friend of the uk, that's for sure. >> yeah. all right, greg, give my love to ron desantis. tell him if he wants an interview, he
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knows how to get hold of me and come and tell us how you got on with it. >> absolutely. you'll be with it. >> first. absolutely. you'll be the first. >> great to talk to you. >> great to talk to you. >> thanks. >> thanks. >> what's to ron >> what's happened to ron desantis? vanished for that. >> he's having dinner with greg swenson tonight. that's what's happened to right? happened to him, right? >> come, we're going to >> still to come, we're going to bfing >> still to come, we're going to bring on that bring you the latest on that awful yesterday, it was awful story. yesterday, it was the luckily, he's okay the teacher. luckily, he's okay at the school tewksbury. at the school in tewksbury. first though, here is first of all, though, here is your morning's with aaron. your morning's news with aaron. >> hi there. it's 1130. your morning's news with aaron. >> hi there. it's1130. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. the prime minister says allegations made against a bbc presenter are shocking and concerning. the corporation is under pressure over how it's handled. claims an unnamed star paid a teenager thousands of pounds for explicit photos. now the sun says the parents of the young person are standing by their accounts , despite a lawyer their accounts, despite a lawyer for the now 20 year old saying nothing unlawful took place. the bbc's director general, tim davie, is currently addressing reporters over the issue , will reporters over the issue, will bfing reporters over the issue, will bring more details of his
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answers whenever we get them. now, the prime minister is currently at the nato summit in lithuania, where the leaders are expected to give a positive signal on ukraine's bid to join the military alliance. allies are split about ukraine becoming are split about ukraine becoming a member . are split about ukraine becoming a member. ukraine accepts that cannot happen while the war against russia continues , against russia continues, argues, however, the prime minister is also pushing for countries to spend at least 2% of their gdp on defence in line with an agreement made in 2008. the government may face further hurdles when its illegal migration bill returns to the commons later, despite a number of amending , its concessions of amending, its concessions include limiting the detention pefiod include limiting the detention period of unaccompanied children and pregnant women to overcome safeguarding concerns. another change will prevent people who have already entered the uk without permission from being removed retrospectively . a draft removed retrospectively. a draft of the controversial bill suffered a record 20 defeats in the house of lords and mortgage
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feeling inside from the boxed boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> and it's 1135 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce. i'm bev turner so the teacher who was stabbed yesterday at a school in gloucestershire is now recovering after being discharged hospital, which discharged from hospital, which is news, course. a is good news, of course. a teenage been arrested teenage boy has been arrested and questioned by and is being questioned by police. at police. the attack happened at tewkesbury , which was tewkesbury academy, which was put lockdown. more that
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news. the people's channel, britain's news . news. the people's channel, britain's news. channel and it's 1138 with britain's newsroom. >> when gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so the teacher who was stabbed yesterday at a school in gloucestershire is now recovering after being discharged hospital. discharged from hospital. >> boy been >> a teenage boy has been arrested being questioned by arrested is being questioned by the happened the police. the attack happened at which at tewkesbury academy, which was put now put under lockdown. it's now reopened. put under lockdown. it's now re0jso ed. put under lockdown. it's now re0jso our west midlands >> so our west midlands reporter, jack carson joins us from tewkesbury . good morning, from tewkesbury. good morning, jack . thank you forjoining us jack. thank you for joining us this morning. jack. thank you for joining us this morning . we were on air this morning. we were on air yesterday when this happened. the school went into lockdown. in fact, neighbouring schools also went lockdown. is it also went into lockdown. is it all calm there this morning ? all calm there this morning? >> yes, it very much is a completely different picture to the scene here yesterday morning when hundreds of parents were gathered here, worried, of course, about that. their children , when three schools in children, when three schools in this surrounding area went into lockdown. of course, tewkesbury
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academy is where incident academy is where the incident took place just before 9 am. when a teacher was stabbed by by a student , a when a teacher was stabbed by by a student, a single stab wound. it was later confirmed by the gloucestershire constabulary . gloucestershire constabulary. and we got the news yesterday evening that that teacher has now returned home and is recovering well after being discharged from hospital . a discharged from hospital. a spokesman for the school has said that he has expressed his gratitude for the many positive messages that he has received. many teachers here, although very worried about their children, were calling on the on the of that teacher, the bravery of that teacher, many him a hero as well many calling him a hero as well . of course, police are still questioning and do still have in custody a teenage boy who they have arrested on suspicion of attempted murder . we await today attempted murder. we await today to see if that boy will be will be charged. but, of course , when be charged. but, of course, when the police were called here, it was a very active scene with firearms officers going around the school, of course, starting those investigations, because at that time in the morning, there
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was no there was no indication of a motivation , no evidence of of a motivation, no evidence of whether this was weather, whether this was weather, whether this was isolated or possibly more terrorism related . police are saying that they're not considering this to be a terror related incident, but they are keeping an open mind. and, of course, the police were unsure whether suspect was unsure whether the suspect was still on site or whether they had fled. it was later. then at 11 am. yesterday morning when firearms officers did arrest that teenage boy suspect in stoke orchard, that is about three miles away. it's a ten minute drive or we're unsure whether whether the suspect got there on foot. but when they were arrested, a knife was seized at the scene. so today, those questions for that teenage boy still continue for that boy in custody and that teacher at home now recovering well there in tewkesbury. >> tanya and nigel nelson are back in the studio with us. tanya, you've got four teenage children . i can't really call children. i can't really call them children. >> two adults, two teenagers.
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yeah, and two yeah, two adults and two teenagers as did you ever feel when children went to when your children went to school would at school that there would be at risk of knife crime within the classroom? >> and how tough for teachers today? >> it's all wrong. it's just all wrong. i never felt that way. the way the school behaved as well. problems with they the way the school behaved as wellsent problems with they the way the school behaved as wellsent a problems with they the way the school behaved as wellsent a text,)lems with they the way the school behaved as wellsent a text, an ns with they the way the school behaved as wellsent a text, an alertth they the way the school behaved as wellsent a text, an alert textiey just sent a text, an alert text to parents to say to the parents to say something's the something's happened at the school. turn up . school. don't turn up. >> we're on lockdown. >> we're on lockdown. on >> we're on lockdown. we're on lockdown. come. i mean, we lockdown. don't come. i mean, we got knocking. i rac. got parents knocking. i rac. >> i'd be jumping in my car. thank you. >> running school. so >> running to the school. so that badly handled by that was badly handled by the school. this whole thing school. but this whole thing now, i i do understand now, i mean, i do understand having been i mean, was having been i mean, i was a primary teacher, so we primary school teacher, so we didn't and in didn't really and i was in tottenham, but the secondary school next to me, i school that was next to me, i won't name names. mean, i used won't name names. i mean, i used to have to take my year six seconds their school in seconds into their school in order use their pool . seconds into their school in order use their pool. i was order to use their pool. i was petrified, because . petrified, really, because. because. because teenage boys, big, tall , broad teenage boys , big, tall, broad teenage boys, some of them would shout comments and i mean, my heart would be i intimidated. it was
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really like, that was my worst day, my thursdays. i remember it's a thursday. i haven't taught for 20 years. you know , taught for 20 years. you know, it was it was a thursday. and i was petrified because the intimidation, when you hear when you hear tonya's experience there, i mean , my kids are all there, i mean, my kids are all grown up, but when i used to take them to school, the one thing you always knew was, oh, they're safe now. >> i've got them the school >> i've got them to the school gates. i'll start worrying when they're home that they're walking home that something might happen to them. and of thing sounds and this kind of thing sounds more stuff that happens more like the stuff that happens in so the in america. yeah, and so the fact that, you know, the fact that the violence schools is that the violence in schools is creeping really frightening. >> do we get to a point >> do we have to get to a point where we have to have knife detectors and we know that we see them some schools? see them at some schools? >> be more routine? >> should it be more routine? >> should it be more routine? >> it's looking like >> well, it's looking like like maybe to be. i mean, maybe it ought to be. i mean, certainly this is this is a sleepy gloucestershire market town. >> mean, 20,000. >> i mean, 20,000. >>— >> i mean, 20,000. >> the last place you'd >> it's the last place you'd expect it. but inner cities expect it. but in inner cities where knife crime obviously is much prevalent, much more prevalent, you might have thinking about have to start thinking about frisking they come in
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frisking kids when they come in to make sure they haven't got a knife. what avail? knife. but to what avail? >> not enough on >> we're not tough enough on knife it is. i mean, knife crime as it is. i mean, that takes a whole other thing. but we're not tough enough on knife crime. people are caught with the time and with knives all the time and let off again. >> what do teachers actually >> and what do teachers actually do of a child who do in the event of a child who is in the is being unruly in the classroom? it like the classroom? it feels like the teachers longer have any teachers no longer have any power to deal with anything. >> no, in an effective way. there the there was a report by the department education saying department of education saying so now complain so many teachers now complain about of the about the bad conduct of the pupils the head teachers pupils and the head teachers think the pupils are much better behaved at behaved because they're not at the cutting because the same cutting edge because they're in their office, in their tower. their little ivory tower. >> i'm sitting there doing a great job. of course i'm not saying that, but teachers and i think that's a big reason, tony, why teachers are leaving why so many teachers are leaving the it's not the profession. it's not just about money. they're intimidated. frightened about money. they're intimidat of frightened about money. they're intimidat of respect. frightened about money. they're inti when of respect. frightened about money. they're inti when i respect. frightened about money. they're inti when i whenict. frightened about money. they're inti when i whenict. frigtoened about money. they're inti when i whenict. frigto goi about money. they're inti when i whenict. frigto go to >> when i when i used to go to the school to take the swimming lesson, i would be frightened. no the no one wants to wake up in the morning and think i'm scared to go to work. and that's what's happening go to work. and that's what's hapl ening go to work. and that's what's hapl wasg go to work. and that's what's hapl was scared of my teachers. >> i was scared of my teachers. >> i was scared of my teachers. >> a lot of them.
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>> well, that's a lot of them. we be scared of the we used to be scared of the teachers. yeah. yeah >> that's what's gone wrong. >> that's what's gone wrong. >> cheat them. >> you didn't cheat them. >> you didn't cheat them. >> didn't them. you >> you didn't cheat them. you certainly knife on them. >> i'll tell you, the nuns wouldn't have no. wouldn't have it. no. >> me. no not quite. you're >> for me. no not quite. you're not. not allowed to do not. you're not allowed to do that not. you're not allowed to do tha write story broken >> write a story that's broken while air this while we've been on air this morning. actually this about morning. actually this is about i'm will this i'm sure you will remember this woman, 800 woman, double olympic, 800 metre champion semenya. champion caster semenya. yeah. according champion caster semenya. yeah. accordishe was actually tonya, she was actually discriminated against by the rules which forced her to lower her testosterone levels in order to compete, according to the european rights. to compete, according to the euro regardless, rights. to compete, according to the euro regardless, we rights. to compete, according to the eurcregardless, we have rights. to compete, according to the euro regardless, we have to tights. to compete, according to the eurcregardless, we have to be ils. but regardless, we have to be careful to sure this isn't careful to make sure this isn't complicated trans complicated with the trans issue, because this woman has naturally much higher levels of testosterone . testosterone. >> okay. so it is complex on many levels, but she naturally and i think that's the thing, natural . she has and i think that's the thing, natural. she has higher and i think that's the thing, natural . she has higher levels natural. she has higher levels of testosterone . does that make of testosterone. does that make for a fair playing field against a level player, against women? i'm not sure it does . but, you i'm not sure it does. but, you know, we live in such an insane society at the moment that men are competing against women in within sports and winning and
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nothing's been done to their testosterone. i mean, this woman's chemically having she's having to chemically reduce her natural testosterone because of that. >> why does she want to have to put nasty drugs in her body to reduce something that's being produced naturally? >> that's that's the >> well, that's that's the problem occurs problem is if it occurs naturally . yeah. why should she? naturally. yeah. why should she? why shouldn't she? i mean, other people you look at basketball players that have the i can't remember the medical term giant, gigantic, gigantic. remember the medical term giant, gigantic, gigantic . and they get gigantic, gigantic. and they get to go on and play and be very tall and win. no one's saying that they've got to do something to if it's to reduce it. so if it's naturally as as you naturally occurring as as you know, the court has said now it shouldn't be reduced. >> that's why it's a >> well, that's why it's a common common common sense. it's a common sense by the court. and sense decision by the court. and we all well , not all of us, but we all well, not all of us, but some of us bang about the some of us bang on about the european human rights, european court of human rights, and be abolished . and it should be abolished. yeah, these are exactly the kind of yes. of cases it's there. yes. >> nice. did hear me ? >> quite nice. did you hear me? yes, quite so. >> i don't want to abolish. >> i don't want to abolish. >> i don't want to abolish. >> i just want to withdraw from it. >> i just h- h" hu- it. why is a common sense
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>> why is a common sense decision is you have decision is you may have naturally stronger arms or longer legs, all of which would actually give you a competitive advantage. so if you naturally have a drug running around your body , a hormone running around body, a hormone running around your body, then that shouldn't be interfered with. and that's why nothing to do with the trans debate at all. >> and she hasn't competed at a top level since i hadn't top level since 2016. i hadn't realised been realised she hasn't been able. >> been >> yeah, exactly. hasn't been allowed been subjected. >> some pretty >> she's had some pretty terrible said her. terrible things said about her. >> freak >> she really has like a freak and a weirdo. and i remember at the time that stuff. >> yeah, indeed. >> yeah, indeed. >> it's a man in a woman's body and because rules that and because of the rules that she try lower she had to try and lower her testosterone levels, but to do that with a contraceptive pill that with a contraceptive pill that made us sick . that made us sick. >> yeah. i mean, it just seems to be a horrible way of treating something that's a tough time. there's doubt time. there's time. there-s >> there's no doubt about it. so have her competitors, you could argue, that gold medal have her competitors, you could argue, have that gold medal have her competitors, you could argue, have been|at gold medal have her competitors, you could argue, have been theirsd medal have her competitors, you could argue, have been theirs ifmedal have her competitors, you could argue, have been theirs if she al would have been theirs if she hadnt would have been theirs if she hadn't been in this. >> that's way is, >> but that's the way it is, isn't it? >> e“- e that's that's >> that's just that's that's what that's it what sports is. that's what it is. >> has a is. has a condition
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>> yeah. so she has a condition called hyperandrogenism, which is she , she generates is where she she, she generates higher than usual levels of testosterone . she's obviously testosterone. she's obviously not competing anymore. she's she's retired from sport. she's had two effectively. but now i guess she would have a legal case against the world athletics and arbitration for and the court of arbitration for sport claim against sport to make a claim against what would have been her earnings, her earnings. >> and also she to keep >> and also did she get to keep her 2012 and 2016 medals? that's what we need know. her 2012 and 2016 medals? that's whtl we need know. her 2012 and 2016 medals? that's whtl think aed know. her 2012 and 2016 medals? that's whtl think she know. her 2012 and 2016 medals? that's whtl think she didnow. her 2012 and 2016 medals? that's whtl think she did 800. did >> i think she did 800. she did , of course , i mean, i >> and of course, i mean, i always think olympics isn't it supposed to amateur? but you supposed to be amateur? but you made you made the point, bev, if you win double medals, you set up double gold medals, you set up for commercial. for life commercial. >> yeah i do wonder, >> oh, really? yeah i do wonder, though, nigel, it makes me wonder sets wonder whether this sets a precedent because i'm thinking if a lawyer now for if i was a lawyer now for a trans athlete, if, say , what's trans athlete, if, say, what's the name of the swimmer? liam halligan if was going halligan thompson if i was going to lawyer, one to be leah thomas's lawyer, one might this as some might therefore use this as some sort of precedent to go away and say, well, this athlete had higher testosterone. higher levels of testosterone. it their it doesn't matter if their natural would now be natural or not. she would now be allowed to. you discriminated against her. now you are
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against her. so now you are discriminating against leah thomas. >> i think that we run into a whole different set of problems there. i mean, it's things like if they go through puberty as a male, they will they will then have stronger muscles. and so there's a whole host of other things that come into play . i things that come into play. i really think that this one should be completely divorced from the whole trans debate. yeah. >> yeah. i bet they'll try. >> yeah. i bet they'll try. >> yeah. i bet they'll try. >> yeah , in some way. they >> yeah, in some way. yes, they will. they will. they will. we do gear change and talk about will. they will. they will. we do ge disarmament. talk about will. they will. they will. we do ge disarmament. ialk about will. they will. they will. we do ge disarmament. i lovebout nuclear disarmament. i love this story . story. >> e'- fl!“ >> nato. what's this about? >> nato. what's this about? >> right. well, are 12 >> right. well, these are 12 labour mps who've signed who've their frontbench , aren't they? their frontbench, aren't they? some of them are frontbenchers , some of them are frontbenchers, yes. it's the responsibility . yes. it's the responsibility. shadow transport secretary lew hague , the shadow scottish hague, the shadow scottish secretary, ian murray, that they signed a commons motion back in 2021 and that that was to get britain to sign up to the ban on nuclear weapons. this is a un ban, no , no, nato country is a
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ban, no, no, nato country is a signatory to this. >> so we're going unilateral. >> so we're going unilateral. >> well, it would it would be unilateral cnd if it ever got anywhere . anywhere. >> but there's no way the labour party are going adopt it. no party are going to adopt it. no way. starmer adopt it way. keir starmer will adopt it and nor should he that obviously be the biggest effect on this would be to lose trident. yeah. and and my personal view is that we do need trident for our defence. if we can have the sort of top bit of bit of equipment and we can afford it, we should, we should keep it. >> can they keep their frontbench jobs because this isn't party policy. >> it was a commons motion which, which never went anywhere called they're called early day motions . and all they are is, is motions. and all they are is, is just a yeah, but it's a public statement of what they believe andifs statement of what they believe and it's a public statement of labour policy. but as they've not contradicted directly labour party , yes, they can keep party policy, yes, they can keep their jobs. party policy, yes, they can keep theirjobs. i don't think they their jobs. i don't think they should jobs because should keep their jobs because and starmer will be and i think keir starmer will be really worried about this because that because one of the things that we and we
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we need is our defence and we need weapons as deterrent. >> we think what russia >> that's we think what russia is threatening the moment. >> you know, you kind think, >> you know, you kind of think, you this kind of you know, in this kind of creepy, creepy world that we're living where is creepy, creepy world that we're livirfunding where is creepy, creepy world that we're livirfunding coming where is creepy, creepy world that we're livirfunding coming frome is creepy, creepy world that we're livirfunding coming from for the funding coming from for a lot of this to about? lot of this stuff to come about? >> if if >> and i reckon if we if we could magic and could have a magic thing and wand it , could have a magic thing and wand it, i bet putin's laughing, his head off thinking his head off just thinking literally killing himself with laughter at these that we're sitting having debate sitting here having a debate about rid of our nuclear about getting rid of our nuclear weapons. about getting rid of our nuclear weiremember when neil kinnock >> remember when neil kinnock went and i think went down that route and i think tanya was suggesting these tanya was suggesting that these labour paid by labour mps have been paid by putin this point. putin to make this point. >> not. >> no, no i'm not. >>— >> no, no i'm not. >> just neil kinnock >> but it's just neil kinnock said. the hills in 1987, said. take to the hills in 1987, didn't he to hills and didn't he take to the hills and hide kinnock stay? hide neil kinnock stay? >> sort of coming of >> we were sort of coming out of the whole point the cold war and the whole point there was that if we didn't have nuclear weapons, the russians might not bomb the moment might not bomb us. at the moment we're not quite the same threat. we have a little giggle. we're not quite the same threat. we shalliave a little giggle. we're not quite the same threat. we shall we a little giggle. we're not quite the same threat. we shall we havetle giggle. we're not quite the same threat. we shall we havetlelittlele. we're not quite the same threat. we shall we havetlelittle giggle >> shall we have a little giggle at before we go? yes. at joe biden before we go? yes. yeah. obviously >> little giggle? >> why only a little giggle? >> why only a little giggle? >> me. >> why only a little giggle? >> the me. >> why only a little giggle? >> the big me. >> why only a little giggle? >> the big one. me. >> the big one. >> the big one. >> his great ally, rishi sunak. yesterday and then he saw the king and i think he basically
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just ignored all the instructions that he's given. >> can you imagine if that was trump, though? mean, trump, though? yeah. i mean, just imagine if trump just can you imagine if trump had walked in front of the king, if trump had kept touching and kept waiting for seven minutes? >> way , did he really? >> by the way, did he really? >> by the way, did he really? >> yeah, seven minutes? >> yeah, seven minutes? >> yeah. you imagine if that >> yeah, seven minutes? >> �*been you imagine if that >> yeah, seven minutes? >> �*been trump? imagine if that >> yeah, seven minutes? >> �*been trump? whatine if that >> yeah, seven minutes? >> �*been trump? what then?:hat >> yeah, seven minutes? >> �*been trump? what then? use had been trump? what then? use all not all these newspapers. it's not on page would done. >> i know an embarrassment >> i know he's an embarrassment , isn't he, nigel? >> i know he's an embarrassment , is it he, nigel? >> i know he's an embarrassment , isi meanligel? >> i know he's an embarrassment , isi mean ,gel? >> i know he's an embarrassment , isi mean , iel? >> i know he's an embarrassment , isi mean , i think he's getting >> i mean, i think he's getting on bit and he's having some, on a bit and he's having some, some struggles. the idea nothing wrong with being 80, but an wrong with being 80, but he's an old old mean, old 80. he's an old 80. i mean, he calling rishi he keeps, he keeps calling rishi sunak mr president, he ought to have actually got his title right by by now. he walked in, he'd walked in front of the king. >> i mean, look, the king must be thinking. >> but then trump walked in front queen, if you front of the queen, if you remember, all the more reason he shouldn't same shouldn't have made the same mistake. should mistake. yes. i mean, he should have all the papers have been told by all the papers when in the queen >> none of the papers have got queen >> ione of the papers have got queen >> ion thatthe papers have got queen >> ion that front. pers have got that on that front. >> footage was shown again and again again again on again and again and again on every again and again and again on eveand of course, we saw he had >> and of course, we saw he had
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his little note in the his little crib note in the garden downing street garden. >> can't remember the >> he can't remember top of the thing. yes, that's where he thing. nato yes, that's where he is nato summit. you think is now. nato summit. you think he might known that? is now. nato summit. you think he he'st known that? is now. nato summit. you think he he'st horribly hat? >> he's just a horribly vulnerable and it just vulnerable man and it just raises questions as who is raises questions as to who is actually the decision. actually making the decision. >> my plea, not him. >> biden feel sorry for, but i >> biden i feel sorry for, but i know i feel sorry for the world. >> from age to you. oh, >> youth from age to you. oh, yes. look at this. >> tonia buxton go without showing you a picture of her gorgeous in gorgeous daughter. and in the sun we go. it's sun today, here we go. it's gorgeous. antigoni gorgeous. you may know antigoni . love island. oh, . she was on love island. oh, why and never miss it. >> why is she the paper mummy? >> why is she the paper mummy? >> she's got >> she's a musician. she's got a single called nervous single out today called nervous and i just say that she has and can i just say that she has been since she could been a musician since she could breathe? first breathe? she got her first publishing 14 years publishing deal at 14 years old. forget island stuff. forget the love island stuff. just dad. just look at my dad. >> is gorgeous and she >> and she is gorgeous and she gets her mum. >> and she is gorgeous and she get and her mum. >> and she is gorgeous and she get and were 1er mum. >> and she is gorgeous and she get and were you num. >> and she is gorgeous and she get and were you the. >> and she is gorgeous and she get and were you the one taking >> and were you the one taking her her music lessons and her to all her music lessons and taking singing taking her to all the singing and songwriting and all of the songwriting sessions ? sessions? >> everything. i went everywhere. me everywhere. does she thank me for when she has worked? for it when she has worked? >> when she gets to number one in charts, it'll be a big in the charts, it'll be a big thanks to and dad. i thanks to her mum and dad. i hope good luck.
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hope so. good luck. do they still do? >> still do the charts? >> do they still do the charts? >> do they still do the charts? >> tanya and paul. excellent >> tanya and paul. excellent >> i don't do >> excellent. i don't know. do they the oh, do they still do the charts? oh, do they still do the charts? oh, do they ? they? >> e” ea— >> we've got a very special programme presented by arlene foster northern ireland to foster from northern ireland to mark the july the 12th celebrations. mean, a celebrations. i mean, we get a day off, guys. celebrations. i mean, we get a daymarvellous. >> marvellous. >> marvellous. >> will be back on >> right. we will be back on thursday. nigel. thursday. thank you to nigel. thank tanya. you thank you to tanya. thank you for everybody you for everybody and thank you again signing our petition . again for signing our petition. >> obe 200,000. >> obe 200,000. >> thanks to you , we're over >> thanks to you, we're over 200,000. keep it going and see you.see 200,000. keep it going and see you. see you soon. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> i'm alex deakin and welcome along to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. another day of heavy showers across the country . some showers across the country. some big downpours in a few spots . big downpours in a few spots. most of us seeing some sunny spells. so a good chance there'll be rainbows there'll be some rainbows around. has been around. low pressure has been dominating . this weather dominating. this weather front brought of heavy brought quite a lot of heavy rain across the south yesterday evening. it's been out, evening. it's been fizzling out, but providing quite a lot
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but still providing quite a lot of showers already over of cloud showers already over wales, northern england. they'll of cloud showers already over walheavierhern england. they'll of cloud showers already over walheavier through land. they'll of cloud showers already over walheavier through thei. they'll of cloud showers already over walheavier through the day ey'll of cloud showers already over walheavier through the day asll get heavier through the day as they will northern they will across northern scotland. moving scotland. and slow moving thunderstorms here could cause some problems with a lot of rain falling in a short space of time, we should see some sunny spells developing, particularly for northern ireland. 20 degrees here, the low 20s here, maybe up into the low 20s across the south—east. but for most cool with the most it feels cool with the brisk breeze, which will at least showers through least move the showers through this lighter winds this evening. lighter winds across northern means across northern scotland means the slow moving downpours will continue here well into the night and we'll more wet night and we'll see more wet weather returning to northern ireland as ireland through the night as well. good chunk well. but for a good chunk of england it turn england and wales, it will turn dry and clear. temperatures mostly holding up at about 13 or 14. as for wednesday , it's 14. as for wednesday, it's another day of sunshine and showers. it'll be a brighter start across east anglia in the southeast, good chance of a sunny start wednesday , but sunny start to wednesday, but then the showers will get going once more, especially over northern england . again, parts northern england. again, parts of northern scotland , more of northern scotland, more tomorrow northern tomorrow probably for northern ireland, but a chance of a drier
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afternoon wales and afternoon across wales and southwest and again, southwest england and again, temperatures mostly in the high teens and low 20s. >> the temperatures rising , >> the temperatures rising, boxed suella proud sponsors of weather on .
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