.usso . us so you joined us. joining. us so you joined us. >> thanks, boys, and i hope you enjoy the rest of the day. lodge 747 is just passing by, which includes many politicians , includes many politicians, young, men's, christian, total abstinence us 747. >> i saw a former minister of education going past lord peter wei r. weir. >> lord peter weir, on the bannen >> lord peter weir, on the banner. yes, it was good. >> trust me. today will be very, very difficult . yeah, it's. it's very difficult. yeah, it's. it's actually becoming very difficult now for the paraders because of the wind and the rain. >> oh my goodness . but people >> oh my goodness. but people are still . going still .

going well, gavin, we're coming towards the end of our time with our obe viewers and listeners. it's been a wonderful day. despite the rain, despite the wind, it's been good to be here. thank you so much for joining us.thank thank you so much for joining us. thank you very much for having me. and from the very wet , blustery belfast away from a blustery belfast. up next, it's the latest with mark and pip. but i just wanted to let you see some of the sights and sounds before we go .

so it's a damp day here in belfast . belfast. >> it's turning out to be rather wet, but it hasn't dampened the spirits of us all. now it's over to the live desk with mark and pip. >> but first of all, let's go to the west . the west. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello, i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. more heavy showers to come today . there'll be some come today. there'll be some blue sky at times , a fairly cool blue sky at times, a fairly cool breeze continuing to blow. we've still got low pressure dominating . it's only slowly dominating. it's only slowly pulling away to the north—east and around. it's bands of showers continually feeding in some heavy ones. today across northern scotland, particularly parts of aberdeenshire down to

fife , but also parts of northern fife, but also parts of northern ireland, southern scotland seeing intense showers and seeing some intense showers and further we'll see kind of further south we'll see kind of lines of for some places lines of showers for some places having a wet day, whereas having a very wet day, whereas some spots may not see too many and see a bit more in the way of sunshine. there's still a cool breeze there. so breeze blowing there. so temperatures or a temperatures only around or a touch average. high teens, touch below average. high teens, low 20s at best and feeling cooler when showers come cooler when the showers come along, will still along, of which there will still be this evening, be plenty through this evening, still some pretty lively ones. the possibility of rumble of the possibility of a rumble of thunder places , but they do thunder in places, but they do tend to fade as we go through the so most places will the night. so most places will become through early become dry through the early hours. keeping hours. some showers keeping going the west. going around the west. temperatures up 11 to 14 temperatures holding up 11 to 14 celsius thursday may well, it is sunshine and showers , but i sunshine and showers, but i don't think there'll be as many showers tomorrow. better showers tomorrow. a better chance a bit more chance of seeing a bit more sunshine, initially sunshine, particularly initially over central and eastern parts , over central and eastern parts, but even through the day, not as many developing of many showers developing parts of wales, south—west england especially, stay dry. still especially, may stay dry. still some heavy showers to come, particularly in parts of scotland and still generally on

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>> coming up , longhurst and me, pip thompson. >> coming up, chief deputy prime minister's questions live from the house of commons. >> yes, the deputy's stepping in for the second week in a row. the prime minister is at the nato summit in vilnius , holding nato summit in vilnius, holding a this morning with a key meeting this morning with ukrainian leader president zelenskyy. some very zelenskyy. so some very important matters discussed there. on there. we'll keep you updated on what minister and what the prime minister and president zelenskyy has had to say back here in the uk, labour's rachel reeves and lisa nandy are meeting mortgage brokers as the housing crisis grows and as you can see here, liz truss launching the growth commission today. what exactly is it and why does the former prime minister believe that she's still right in the economy? our economics and business editor liam halligan asking her an exclusive asking her in an exclusive interview . interview. >> we're joined in the studio by our deputy political editor, tom harwood , to talk about deputy

harwood, to talk about deputy pmqs. of course, rishi sunak is in lithuania . how lively do you in lithuania. how lively do you think it will get today between angela rayner and oliver? >> dowden well, it did get a little bit spicy last week, didn't it, when the same two characters were appearing across these despatch boxes . these despatch boxes. >> and this is the first time since these the prime minister's questions have been televised that we have back to back. deputy prime minister's questions. no doubt that will be referenced in the opening stages. rishi sunak missing two in a row. he's been he's becoming known as someone who perhaps doesn't enjoy standing behind that despatch box as much as maybe some of his predecessors did . predecessors did. >> 80% attendance rating. i think compared to other prime ministers. indeed, a good slipping, perhaps . slipping, perhaps. >> perhaps. it was interesting actually last week to look at the make up of the chamber behind rishi sunak. fewer and fewer conservative mps choosing to turn up to these sessions . to turn up to these sessions. lots of gaps on those benches despite the conservative party

still having a majority numerically more and more people staying away. >> however, one might imagine he's got a good excuse. this week i'm at the nato summit and i'm meeting president zelenskyy sorting out the war in ukraine. so difficult attack line for angela rayner on that particular some might argue these international are more international meetings are more important than attending a birthday the nhs, birthday party for the nhs, which of last week. which was of course last week. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> round corner indeed, >> just round the corner indeed, from of commons. from the house of commons. >> indeed, a five minute walk, but but of the leader of but but of course the leader of the opposition at that point was away as well. perhaps we away as well. so perhaps we can't this all on rishi can't pin this all on rishi sunak as some commentators have in his aversion to this in terms of his aversion to this sort of theatre twice i think twice on the bounce they were talking about housing, lack of housing, housebuilding. >> oh, i think lindsay hoyle is just got up on his feet. we'll go to number one. appg pmqs. now, i think , mr speaker, let's now, i think, mr speaker, let's listen in. i have been asked to reply global oil prices have remained largely stable all this

yeah >> this has not changed. following the announcement of additional production cuts by saudi arabia and russia, we expect the impact of the cuts will be mitigated by the increase in supply from other producers and a decrease in global oil demand. as we have seen previously . seen previously. >> steven boehner speaker if we want to insulate ourselves from future price rises, then we need to invest in a greener future. united the united states gets it. they've committed . 370 it. they've committed. 370 billion on net zero energies. the eu , they get it. they are the eu, they get it. they are set to match that figure. and in scotland we get it. we have the ambition to lead the world on renewable energy. we have the energy, but we do not have the power. so why is westminster trying to block scotland's path to a safer, greener future ? to a safer, greener future? here's the prime minister. >> well, mr speaker, we of course, will continue to invest in renewables . but i would say in renewables. but i would say to the party opposite , we should to the party opposite, we should

also invest in our energy independence . and that means independence. and that means investing in the north sea. if we fail to invest in the north sea , we'll be more reliant on sea, we'll be more reliant on foreign producers and we will have a higher carbon emissions as we import from elsewhere . as we import from elsewhere. >> craig mckinley a question to mr speaker . mr speaker. >> deputy prime minister. >> deputy prime minister. >> thank you, mr speaker. mr speaker , my right honourable speaker, my right honourable friend, the prime minister here is in vilnius attending the nato summit . this is in vilnius attending the nato summit. this summit is an opportunity to build on the work we have done over the past year strengthening nato and supporting ukraine. mr speaker , supporting ukraine. mr speaker, in addition to my meetings in this house, i shall have further such meetings later today . such meetings later today. >> mckinley mr speaker , new >> mckinley mr speaker, new labour's old mantra used to be education, education, education in its new one seems to be tax

education and tax. education, tax, education. when does the deputy prime minister share my disgust at labour's plans to tax education and choice, which could lead to 40,000 pupils being sent into the state sector with the cost to the taxpayer? i have a number of english language schools in my constituency and they are concerned that this will apply to them as well, as well as tuition , out—of—hours tuition tuition, out—of—hours tuition and sport training. additionally does the deputy prime minister object to these measures as strongly as i do? yes beth mead prime minister. >> yeah, yeah. yeah. >> yeah, yeah. yeah. >> yes. well once again, we have seen from the labour party then putting the politics of envy about above the interests of children in this country and as my honourable friend rightly highlights its recent analysis shows, this could lead to over 40,000 pupils leaving the schools they are in. placing

further burdens on existing schools . and costing £300 schools. and costing £300 million. >> a we now come to the deputy leader of the opposition , angela leader of the opposition, angela rayner. leader of the opposition, angela rayner . thank you, mr speaker, rayner. thank you, mr speaker, and i know you're a keen historian, so i looked up the last time a prime minister missed two sessions in a row with other engagements which was march 1996, and i'm very proud to be filling the boots of lord john prescott. >> but i think it's safe to say he's no hessle time. mr speaker , why is it john prescott has it that in tory britain tens of thousands of families are facing repossession , negative equity repossession, negative equity and homelessness us and can he tell us 27 years later , why am tell us 27 years later, why am i having to ask the same question that the prime minister. >> well , clearly the right >> well, clearly the right honourable lady did not listen to my previous comments. >> the prime minister is at

nato. of course , that wouldn't nato. of course, that wouldn't be a problem if she'd had her way her old boss wanted to abandon ukraine, abolish the army, and withdraw from nato, and he certainly wouldn't be to going any summit. mr speaker. and when it and when it comes when it comes to housebuilding, i will take no lectures from the party opposite it on home ownership . my parents would not ownership. my parents would not have been able to buy their own home if it were not for margaret thatcher. and the reforms introduced by her government and this government is building on those with record housebuilding . lorena mr speaker, i think he's taking lessons from the former prime minister on telling the facts. >> the last, the last labour government worked hard to dramatically reduce the number of children in temporary accommodation . but under the

accommodation. but under the tories the number of homeless children has risen by 75. i'm proud of our record and tackling child poverty. does the right honourable gentleman feel ashamed of his deputy? >> the prime minister ? >> the prime minister? >> the prime minister? >> i'll tell you what this government has done. we have lifted 400,000 children out of child poverty . we have child poverty. we have introduced the national living wage , something the party wage, something the party opposite totally failed to do and increased it increased the national living wage by the largest amount ever meaning £1,800 for working people and cutting their taxes by doubling the personal allowance that is the personal allowance that is the surest way to ensure we lift people out of poverty and would never have happened with the party opposite. angela rayner mr speakeh party opposite. angela rayner mr speaker, it's like the ghost of

prime minister past. >> he's still here and i tell the right honourable gentleman that he should be careful about the stats to use because the children's commissioner warned the other prime minister about peddung the other prime minister about peddling false narrative on child poverty around those figures. the truth is a rising bills and soaring mortgages and plummeting real wages are pushing more and more families to the brink. those already struggling are being hit hardest by the tory mortgage bombshell and rising food costs. >> so can he tell us how many primary school children have been pushed into poverty since his government took power ? his government took power? >> deputy prime minister i would say to rajambal lady, it is this party, not the party opposite which extended free school meals to all five, six and seven year olds. >> something the party opposite failed to do. and it sits alongside many measures we are taking to help people with the

cost of living. we are paying half of family's energy bills last winter winter, funded by our 75% windfall tax freeze ing fuel duty, helping families with childcare and delivering on our pledge to reduce the debt. it may come as a surprise to the right honourable lady, but balancing the books means more than working out how many more millions to take from her union paymasters , as angela rayner mr paymasters, as angela rayner mr speakeh paymasters, as angela rayner mr speaker, once again he talks about balancing the books his party crashed the economy and he seems to be he seems to be completely oblivious to what it's like for working people in this country at the moment. >> but new research out today shows that 400,000 more primary school aged children are growing up in poverty. since his government came to office. why does he think that is ? does he think that is? >> deputy prime minister ? why? >> deputy prime minister? why? i will take absolutely no lectures

whatsoever from the party opposite about how we help children in the most need. >> it is record investment from this government in education nation, £2 billion more this yeah nation, £2 billion more this year, £2 billion more next year, which is giving those very children the best possible start in life, ensuring that we have the highest reading standards in the highest reading standards in the western world. and i have to say to the i have to say to the honourable lady this her leader says he hates tree huggers. they seem very keen on hugging that magic money tree and until the rhiannon . rhiannon. >> so my goodness , mr speaker, >> so my goodness, mr speaker, he doesn't even acknowledge it. >> let alone explain why child poverty is rising. >> what hope has he got of solving it?

>> so let me try a simpler question for him. how many kids don't have a permanent address today compared to when labour left office in 2010? >> deputy prime minister , i'm >> deputy prime minister, i'm sorry, we can exchange all these numbers across the dispatch box. >> these , this is the speaker. >> these, this is the speaker. mr speaker . these are the mr speaker. these are the numbers that matter. there are 1.7 million million fewer , fewer 1.7 million million fewer, fewer people in absolute poverty under this government. 400,000 fewer children 200,000 fewer pensioners . and 1 million fewer pensioners. and 1 million fewer people of working age because the single best route out of poverty is a job. and record numbers of people , all 4 million numbers of people, all 4 million more people under this government have got a job that is the difference between this party and the party opposite. who always leave office with

unemployment higher. who always leave office with unemployment higher . angela unemployment higher. angela rayner mr speaker, what matters is what people feel every single day at the moment who are going to work and can't afford their mortgage, can't afford their rent and can't afford their bills because of this conservative government , there conservative government, there are . 55,000 more children are. 55,000 more children without a permanent address today compared to when they took office. >> 13 years ago. we've gone from a labour cabinet focussed on tackling child poverty to tory ministers who won't even admit the problem. just like the question time in march 1996, they can only offer excuses and not answers , lord john prescott not answers, lord john prescott said to lord michael heseltine that day , how can the right that day, how can the right honourable gentlemen be so complacent in the face of sheer misery created by his government's policies ? and 27 government's policies? and 27 years on, why are we asking the exact same thing ? mr.

exact same thing? mr. a will be more if we carry on. >> come on, deputy. >> come on, deputy. >> mr speaker, i know there's a reshuffle coming up on the other side, but this audition for john prescott's old job is just getting a little bit hackneyed . getting a little bit hackneyed. it is. >> this government that has lifted . 400,000 children out of poverty. >> the party opposite. i hear the random lady claiming to be the random lady claiming to be the party of working people , but the party of working people, but under their policies, people can't even get to work . they can't even get to work. they support just stop oil protests , support just stop oil protests, towers blocking our roads . they towers blocking our roads. they support their union paymaster sisters, stopping our trains. and of course they support the hated ulez stopping cars across our capital, all while conservatives get britain moving. labour are standing in

everyone's way . that's very good everyone's way. that's very good , mr speaker. >> given . given the mansion >> given. given the mansion house compact does not encourage our pension funds to invest specifically in british companies, what more can the government do to encourage greater investment in our companies , especially the companies, especially the climate tech , energy start—ups climate tech, energy start—ups which are increasingly going abroad to find the funding they require to the benefit of our competitors? >> deputy prime minister. >> deputy prime minister. >> well, i think my honourable friend raises a very important point about both start up capital and ensuring that we get more money to high growth companies . i would say that the companies. i would say that the chancellor's pension compact is a very important step forward and will unlock £75 billion of additional investment . and will unlock £75 billion of additional investment. i'm quite confident large amounts of that will go to uk companies and that

sits alongside measures such as the edinburgh reforms to financial services. again which will help improve financial services in this country and unlock for money those industries. >> snp deputy leader mhairi black yeah. >> thank you, mr speaker. last month the deputy prime minister dismissed warnings from those benches that mortgage rates were nearly back to where they were after the disastrous mini—budget. this week mortgage rates have surpassed those levels. how high do they need to go until he and his government takes it seriously ? yeah. takes it seriously? yeah. >> deputy prime minister. >> deputy prime minister. >> mr speaker, the honourable lady knows people around the world know that the driver of higher mortgage rates is higher inflation and higher inflation is caused by russias invasion of ukraine and the postcode supply chains. >> but what we have to do is make sure we halve inflation.

>> it's only by getting inflation under control that we will be able to get mortgage rates down. and that requires discipline on discipline, on spending , discipline on public spending, discipline on public sector pay and discipline on energy supply , all of which is energy supply, all of which is lacking from that party. murray black of england predict that mortgage payments will rise by at least £500 for a million households. >> the prime minister says that people need to hold their nerve , the chancellor said just last night that mortgage holders should just shop around speaking of his own party, the member for south west devon said if the circus doesn't stop by christmas, it's over. does the deputy prime minister understand that people cannot afford to wait until christmas and that they need help right now ? yes. they need help right now? yes. >> deputy prime minister. >> deputy prime minister. >> mr speaker, the fundamental thing we have to do is to halve inflation. that is an approach

that the imf quote strongly endorses because higher inflation drives higher mortgage rates. but that's not all we are doing with the mortgage charter signed up by 93% of mortgage providers hours, we are giving people help to extend their terms to go interest only and to reduce their monthly payments. now that action is supported by martin lewis, a real money saving expert. unlike the big spenders on those benches , spenders on those benches, stevenson tsitsipas last year i visited abbeyfield house in wednesfield and i was impressed by this model of assisted living for older people that gave them the independence of a self—contained flat. >> but the ability to eat and socialise together . and i was socialise together. and i was deeply concerned to hear that a consultation is underway to close the abbeyfield house in wednesfield and i went back to speak to older people . they

speak to older people. they unanimously want to stay there. abbeyfield is a charity . his abbeyfield is a charity. his majesty the king has been patron for 40 years now. it cannot meet the cost of updating the estate to meet environmental standards. will my right honourable friend meet with me to see what support government can offer to abbeyfield so that my resident do not have to leave the homes they love? >> well, mr speaker, of course i'm very happy to give my honourable friend that assurance. i would note that we have provided £7.5 billion of additional funding for social care and discharge , and care and discharge, and specifically on energy , we have specifically on energy, we have got an energy advice service to support smaller businesses and we'll be piloting new audit and grant schemes, which may also help a&e thank you, mr speaker. >> in january, emily booked an appointment with a local dentist in chard, somerset for the 14th of june. only to be told by a neighbour at the end of may that the surgery had closed in april

i >> -- >> emily no longer has a dentist or the remaining surgeries aren't taking on any new patients. emily doesn't know what to do, so can the deputy prime minister tell emily and millions of people like her? when can they get an appointment with a local nhs dentist ? with a local nhs dentist? >> the prime minister. >> the prime minister. >> well, the right honourable gentleman may have missed, but our nhs workforce plan is investing an extra £24 billion into training and retaining crucial nhs staff, including dentists and gp's and actually the number of dentists will rise by 40. and i would say to people across that constituency that the best way they can ensure better services for their nhs is to vote for. faye purbrick, the conservative candidate at charles. >> mr speaker, could the deputy prime minister let us know when

we can expect allocations from the levelling up fund round three and when it comes, will it be true to the prime minister's pledge that all parts of the country benefit out, country will benefit out, including the south east and most particularly the very deserving andover ? deserving town of andover? deputy prime minister well, as well as being an excellent minister, i know how committed my right honourable friend is to the of andover . the town of andover. >> we will shortly be announcing the new approach to the third round and further details of this approach will be will follow shortly. >> pete wishart . hear, hear. follow shortly. >> pete wishart. hear, hear. mr speakeh >> pete wishart. hear, hear. mr speaker, there are some things you encounter in political life that's certain to horrify , appal that's certain to horrify, appal or sicken you, but i don't think i've ever seen anything quite so grotesque as the painting over of mickey mouse on a children's mural as was done by the home office and a detention centre in kent. no minister so far has rose the necessary compassion or concern to speak out about this

. so can i ask the deputy prime minister to look into the deeper recesses of his soul and just simply condemn it? the prime minister . minister. >> i'll tell the honourable gentleman what real compassion looks like. and that means stopping the vile people smuggling trade across the channel. >> condemning women and children to death. >> this government is taking action to deal with it. with our stop the boats bill and that party shamefully 18 times last night voted against it. party shamefully 18 times last night voted against it . follow night voted against it. follow me huw thomas mr speaker, thank you . you. >> on these benches we know as the party of aspiration, the importance of home ownership . importance of home ownership. yeah. yeah. according to a recent estimate by barclays bank, it now takes an average of eight years for the average first time buyer to save for deposit. >> and in parts of london and

the south—east, it can be longer than that. what is the deputy -—— minister and the prime minister and the government doing in order to improve the prospects for younger people who want to own their own homes? prime minister. well i know what a passionate champion of this issue my honourable friend, is. >> it is actually the case that almost 850,000 households have been helped purchase a home since 2010 and actually in 2021 the number of people getting onto the property ladder for the first time was at a 20 year high, thanks to initiatives such as first homes and the help to buy scheme . of course, that buy scheme. of course, that stands in contrast to the party opposite who oversaw the lowest level of housebuilding since the 1920s. smith thank you, mr speakeh >> with the rising ticket prices, many of my constituents find they can get the best value fare by going to the staff ticket office at lancaster station . it's perhaps why so station. it's perhaps why so many of them have signed my petition to save staffing at lancaster station . so can i ask

lancaster station. so can i ask the deputy prime minister why is the deputy prime minister why is the closure of ticket offices just yet another cost of living? bombshell hitting my hardworking constituents ? constituents? >> the prime minister. >> the prime minister. >> well, it is important that the railways continue to reform after the record amount of money that we gave them during covid. i would gently say to the honourable lady that if she is concerned about her constituents getting anywhere on the railways, she should condemn the totally unjustified strikes which closed them down week after week before . after week before. >> thank you, mr speaker, for summers ago, the unprecedented climate change driven heatwave caused irreparable damage to chelmsford's flyover and since then, people from all across essex have been stuck in chelmsford. >> traffic jams wasting time hitting our economic growth. we badly need a new junction at the army and navy , but the funding army and navy, but the funding decision has been stuck in whitehall, so will my right hon. friend use his powerful cross

cabinet convening powers to get treasury and transport to agree to the money so we can deliver a new junction. stop the traffic jams and get chelmsford moving again. >> deputy prime minister. >> deputy prime minister. >> well, i know how powerful my right honourable friend makes the for case this scheme and she has done so once again in the chamber. the chancellor was sitting next to me and would also have heard the case. i understand that the outline case business case submitted by essex county council is being considered by ministers right now and all relevant ministers will have heard her injunction in council. >> scottish ambulance service statistics showed an increase in hypothermic callouts of over 30% across scotland last winter and across scotland last winter and a staggering 84% in the north in december . december. >> whilst fuel calls have fallen slightly, food and other costs have risen exponentially to end the perversity of energy rich scotland, saying one third of scots in fuel poverty and

literally freezing when will the government bring in a social tariff to ensure that the poor and vulnerable can get through this winter without calling out the ambulance service because they are freezing ? yeah. they are freezing? yeah. >> the prime minister. >> the prime minister. >> well, as my right honourable friend the chancellor set out in the autumn statement, we are exploring the best approach to consumer protection from april 2024 as part of wider retail market reforms. i would just reiterate to the honourable gentleman that this winter we paid half of energy bills in scotland. that was thanks to the strength of our union. thank you. >> oliver dowden there. deputy prime minister, just to remind you, of course, this is deputy prime minister's questions because as mr dowden patiently explained, the prime minister is in vilnius for the nato summit . in vilnius for the nato summit. so angela rayner was against him on the other side of the commons that the issue of march 1996, quite a clever device by angela

rayner recalling lord john prescott and lord heseltine. and she said why did i have to ask the same question on repossessions and homelessness ? repossessions and homelessness? 27 years later? our deputy political editor tom harwood perhaps not remembering those days because he's a mere stripling of a lad, but a clever device by angela rayner. >> i thought a very clever device and within it a reference to a very, very famous debate moment in the united states 1988, the vice presidential debate where the vice presidential nominee from the democratic side had been sort of batting forward and back about dan quayle, who was the republican candidate suitability due to his age. he referenced how jack kennedy was young as well . and at this point, the well. and at this point, the most amazing line in the debate comes, senator, i worked with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine . and senator, friend of mine. and senator, you're no jack, no jack kennedy. and in the same way that angela

rayner said you're no john prescott or no, what is it? you're no michael heseltine. >> he's no heseltine. >> he's no, he's no heseltine. i think speaking to lindsay hoyle, the speaker. but it's returning to familiar ground from last week's clash at the despatch box. and i guess people will be a bit confused about where we are in the debate because we had this figure of 400,000 that oliver dowden said had in terms of the children raised out of poverty . and then angela rayner poverty. and then angela rayner came back and said, well, no, our figures suggest there are 400,000 more children in poverty . so it's a sort of clash of statistics almost, wasn't it? it is. >> and we'll have to wait for the fact checkers to really drill down into these different numbers. it could be that one of these numbers is going against a trend of where the number would have versus where have been versus where it is now. and an absolute now. and one is an absolute difference. so or perhaps this is a percentage is about a percentage terms disagreement as well. there are lots of different ways that politicians, of course, interpret numbers because down said 400,000 children, but

said 400,000 fewer children, but fewer compared what exactly fewer compared to what exactly is that fewer compared is that? is that fewer compared to previous trend fewer to the previous trend or fewer compared to the absolute number? good they could they good point. so they could they could in could well be both right in their contradictory numbers. there's a thing . there's a thing. >> yeah, but i'll just wondering about the delivery then in terms of his line that he tried about hugging the magic money tree didn't really come off dire that that i could i could almost hear the groans from not not just the press gallery, but your coffee out there. >> tom it was it was a terrible, terrible line. >> it's all in the timing. >> it's all in the timing. >> yes, all in the delivery . >> yes, all in the delivery. it's interesting. seemed it's interesting. dowden seemed to be on the back foot for that entire question exchange entire six question exchange with angela rayner. there were issues of housing which have come again and again now at come up again and again now at prime ministers and deputy prime ministers where ministers questions where the labour really the labour party is really on the front the government on front foot and the government on the foot due to policy the back foot due to its policy changes in area. but it was changes in this area. but it was interesting when the snp question came up, dowden seemed to have found his authority. he delivered that line about how

inflation is the real issue and what it requires is discipline. and he said discipline through three times, thumping his hand on the despatch box, as he said it at that moment. i think he he garnered more authority in the chamber than he had when he was trying to deliver an an indication, perhaps because he was expecting the mortgage question from angela rayner. >> yes, this >> maybe. yes, perhaps this seemed something he seemed like something that he had prepared for. >> strong line on it >> he had a strong line on it and whether you agree or disagree with the content, the delivery was, i think his his peakin delivery was, i think his his peak in this entire 30 minutes. >> interesting to note as well that yet again, there was a lot of gaps on the benches for this for the third week running, third week running. >> now we can say we are getting towards the end of term mps go on holiday next week, perhaps some have jetted off early to various parts of world or various parts of the world or perhaps doubt they would be perhaps no doubt they would be saying they're working hard in their constituencies. but also saying they're working hard in the can't stituencies. but also saying they're working hard in the can't forget|cies. but also saying they're working hard in the can't forget there but also saying they're working hard in the can't forget there are also saying they're working hard in the can't forget there are five we can't forget there are five by upcoming and what by elections upcoming and what we in recent weeks is we have seen in recent weeks is a of mps being in the a lot of mps being in the chamber for less, being in

parliament, because they're parliament, less because they're doing knocking on the doors, doing the knocking on the doors, treading the feet across the pavements, wearing the leather in shoes , thin. in their shoes, thin. >> there was also >> yeah. there was also an interesting question. i'm not sure might able tell sure you might be able to tell me mp asked about which me which mp asked it about which is linked to the whole is all linked to the whole illegal migration. the illegal migration bill that's going on. but what has caused a lot of consternation painting but what has caused a lot of cons'the ation painting but what has caused a lot of cons'the mural painting but what has caused a lot of cons'the mural wall painting but what has caused a lot of cons'the mural wall at inting but what has caused a lot of cons'the mural wall at the|g but what has caused a lot of cons'the mural wall at the at over the mural wall at the at the processing centre, making children feel so unwelcome here. i mean, the government is facing a lot of criticism for that and i'm not sure oliver dowden's response is particularly justified . justified. >> it no, it's very peculiar because the government really doesn't to have line on doesn't seem to have a line on this. they tend to obfuscate and switch to other issues, how much they're help they're spending to help children the rest it. children and all the rest of it. but it's not the children. if there are if there are unaccompanied even unaccompanied children or even accompanied children, it's not necessarily children necessarily the young children who get in those who have chosen to get in those boats. i think wherever you boats. so i think wherever you stand issue of boats on stand on the issue of boats on both sides of the house, on both sides of the debate, it does

seem curious that a deterrent by taking away a picture of mickey mouse doesn't really seem like much deterrent at much of a deterrent at all. >> and dowden back. >> yeah. and dowden coming back. i'll what real i'll tell you what real compassion looks like. and then obviously indicating the obviously indicating that the other voted 18 times other party had voted 18 times against the bill coming back from the lords. where are we? just to explain to people we've got this process of what they call ping pong? yes, it goes from the lords to the commons and back again. >> and of course has to pass >> and of course it has to pass both in order then both houses in order to then achieve royal and become achieve royal assent and become law. were 20 amendments law. there were 20 amendments made by lords when it when made by the lords when it when it passed through that chamber last week or the week before . last week or the week before. now last night it of course came back to the commons and the government wanted to reject 15 of those amendments and except five of them in some form, some unaccompanied children, for instance , unaccompanied children instance, unaccompanied children for instance. the amount of time that pregnant women can be detained, but also the retrospective nature of the bill. the bill originally wanted

all of its measures to be appued all of its measures to be applied from the moment it was introduced. now it has been amended they'll only amended to say that they'll only be the moment at be applied from the moment at which achieves royal assent. which it achieves royal assent. so a difference. if we're so that's a difference. if we're counting numbers, about counting the numbers, about 10,000 who have come 10,000 people who have come across intervening across in the intervening weeks who will now not apply who this bill will now not apply to, but the government passed all of its votes in the commons last night. it won every single vote and that means the bill now goes back to the lords where they might well accept what the government has done because the government's accepted some of those amendments. doubt there those amendments. no doubt there have scenes have been, behind the scenes conversations, horse trading going on here because the government they government reportedly, and they won't publicly, but won't admit this publicly, but reportedly wants this reportedly really wants this bill passed by the end this bill passed by the end of this parliamentary session. that parliamentary session. and that means. wouldn't give means. but they wouldn't give that they ? that guarantee, would they? >> and certainly >> no question. and certainly suella was looking suella braverman was looking pretty there pretty stony faced there on the front. >> oh, absolutely. and i think one the is the one of the things is the government doesn't want to look like time pressure. like it's under time pressure. right. like it's right. if it looks like it's under time pressure, then the lords might well be able to

squeeze of squeeze more concessions out of the of course the government. and of course the government. and of course the only holds one the government only holds one third the seats the house third of the seats in the house of thirds of are of lords two thirds of seats are held by labour, lib dem and crossbench peers, which means that is on that the government is really on the anyway. they the back foot anyway. they insisting they've got some the back foot anyway. they insisofg they've got some the back foot anyway. they insisof time they've got some the back foot anyway. they insisof time pressure got some the back foot anyway. they insisof time pressure deadline; sort of time pressure deadline in negotiations might not be there strongest. >> theoretically this ping >> so theoretically this ping pong could just go on and on and on on and on. on and on and on. >> it could, although ultimately the government use the government could use something called the parliament act, asserts the authority act, which asserts the authority of the commons. but it takes a lot of time to do that. so generally what happens is the lords does roll over after a bit of this because they accept they are the unelected house. they don't want assert their don't want to assert their authority much and create a authority too much and create a constitutional crisis. so constitutional crisis. yes. so they want they wouldn't they never want so they wouldn't reject that reject a bill outright that has come commons. yes. but come from the commons. yes. but what do is amend and what they can do is amend and revise laws and change in some ways . and we're seeing that now. ways. and we're seeing that now. >> tom, while you're here, we'll touch on something else and we'll speak to catherine force in outside the high in more detail outside the high court there's court on this. but there's a heanng court on this. but there's a hearing underway regards

wethersfield airfield, where people more familiar with people may be more familiar with it rf scampton, of course, it as rf scampton, of course, the dambusters raf now the the dambusters raf base. now the high court hearing with the legal action against the home office has heard that the first asylum seekers have already been moved to the airfield. moved on to the airfield. according to the kc in the hearing. now this is one of those issues where you have a microcosm of the whole question on asylum seekers and migrants and so on. that could actually, if you pardon the expression, blow up in the government's face as it could. >> now, ultimately the government has been under so much pressure over what are known as migrant hotels, hotel halls many for example, halls in many for example, seaside places in the united kingdom that have been entirely taken over by the government to house migrants. taken over by the government to house migrants . the government house migrants. the government thinks that's an unacceptable situation. the local communities think it's an unacceptable situation. so we heard yesterday about these thousands of about all these thousands of hotel rooms are being kept hotel rooms that are being kept just case there's this nice just in case there's this nice and actually going back to the illegal bill this illegal migration bill this is one reasons why they

one of the reasons why they wanted retrospect of action wanted the retrospect of action within bill. they're worried within the bill. they're worried that isn't that that if there isn't that retrospective there'll retrospective action, there'll be people coming over be a surge of people coming over up the bill passed up until the bill is passed right. because one of the main points about the bill is there will no ability apply to will be no ability to apply to stay, but if that only applies to people who come after it achieves royal assent, there may well be this last minute surge of and of boats coming of lots and lots of boats coming overif of lots and lots of boats coming over if they hear the is over if they hear the bill is close and to some close to passing and to some extent one of the extent that is one of the theories as to why the government booked all of government has booked out all of these rooms in case. >> okay, tom, thank you for that. just bring up to that. just to bring you up to date that. so we've this date on that. so we've got this underway high court, underway in the high court, braintree council braintree district council bringing against bringing legal action against the home office over the proposed that raf proposed use of that raf airfield accommodate up to airfield to accommodate up to 1700 asylum seekers, male asylum seekers for 180 days each . seekers for 180 days each. that's ongoing. we'll have an update with our correspondent catherine forster from outside the high court shortly. stay with us. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxed solar power sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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the night. so most places will become the early become dry through the early hours. some showers keeping going around west. going around the west. temperatures holding up 11 to 14 celsius thursday . well, it is celsius thursday. well, it is sunshine and showers, but i don't think there'll be as many showers . so a better showers tomorrow. so a better chance seeing bit more chance of seeing a bit more sunshine shine, particularly initially and initially over central and eastern but even through eastern parts. but even through the showers, the day, not as many showers, developing parts of wales, southwest england especially , southwest england especially, may stay still some heavy may stay dry. still some heavy showers to come, particularly in parts of scotland and still generally on the cool side, although will be although the winds will be a little tomorrow . little lighter tomorrow. >> the temperatures rising, boxed suella proud sponsors of weather on .

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decision to house asylum seekers on old raf bases is continuing as the high court hears numerous bids to bring legal action against plans to house migrants on disused air bases at raf scampton in lincolnshire and wethersfield in essex, where the first asylum seekers have been moved onto the site . moved onto the site. >> yes, that news coming from the high court in the last few minutes will the challenges following a prolonged session in the house of commons last night, tory mps overturning many of the lords amendments on the controversial illegal migration lords amendments on the contrbut'sial illegal migration lords amendments on the contrbut all. illegal migration lords amendments on the contrbut all notegal migration lords amendments on the contrbut all not smooth ration bill. but all not smooth sailing. the government, bill. but all not smooth sailing. the government , facing sailing. the government, facing a backbench revolt for many senior tories, including former prime minister theresa may, criticising the impact on victims of what she said was modern day slavery . modern day slavery. >> our political reporter catherine forsterjoins >> our political reporter catherine forster joins us >> our political reporter catherine forsterjoins us now . catherine forster joins us now. good afternoon, catherine. bring us up to speed then with what the high court has been hearing. the first asylum seekers, they have been moved onto that airfield in essex, which is more commonly known as raf scampton .

commonly known as raf scampton. yes that's right. the hearing was delayed initially for about 45 minutes. there was so many people wanting to be there, they had to find a bigger court. people wanting to be there, they had to find a bigger court . and had to find a bigger court. and there are three appeals going forward over the next couple of days trying to get permission for a judicial review . against for a judicial review. against the government's plans to site migrants on to former raf bases . those are wethersfield in essex and scampton in lincolnshire. now we began with the appeal from an individual in wethersfield and the kc saying that migrants have begun arriving there and being accommodated on that base. now local calls are bitterly, bitterly unhappy, as is braintree council. eventually

the plans are to house 1.7 thousand male migrants there who will be free to come and go as they like . the appeal is saying they like. the appeal is saying that basically the government is using this temporary permitted development rights and that they are concealing their plans for how long they plan to use the base for that . it's not base for that. it's not appropriate that they don't have the infrastructure. what about gps? what about hospitals ? what gps? what about hospitals? what about the pressure on all the local people in the surrounding area? and we expect to hear similar a little bit later about scampton in lincolnshire , which scampton in lincolnshire, which of course was the base for the dambusters. they also used to have the red arrows there and again, great unhappiness with plans. the first migrants currently are expected to arrive there in august. so this is a two day hearing. we don't know yet whether we'll get the

judgement tomorrow or at a later date, but time really is of the essence because as we've heard, mike, patients are arriving in essex right now . essex right now. >> and that in itself of course raises a quite interesting legal question. you know, the cart before the horse, if the migrants are already there, how does an injunction work to actually stop them arriving . actually stop them arriving. >> exactly. and the lawyer was saying, you know, will what will happenif saying, you know, will what will happen if this is successful ? happen if this is successful? are migrants going to be made home less? and the onus then he was suggesting would fall on local authorities . he was also local authorities. he was also saying, is this a change of approach from the government ? approach from the government? he's saying, you know, previously the policy was one of dispersal and integration, putting them up in hotels, then becoming integrated, whereas now the government is seeming to favour putting them on disused military bases , keeping them military bases, keeping them effectively segregated, though of course they can come and go

and he was saying, well, you know, is this a national change of policy? and again, query seeing the legality of that. >> okay, catherine, for the moment, thank you for that. back to you. of course, as those cases argue it out and we'll see where we are by the end of the court case today, at least look at the damage done. >> those are the words of tv and radio host jeremy vine about the unnamed bbc presenter as the number of allegations russians made has now risen to four. >> well, the presenter suspended over the weekend. the met police saying it's now inquiring whether a criminal offence has been committed. our home and security editor mark white has the latest from broad casting house on i think 3 or 4 allegations. it seems at the moment. certainly mark yeah , moment. certainly mark yeah, there are four sets of allegations, revelations, whatever you want to describe them as relating to four

different people . different people. >> the first, of course, the allegations that we're familiar with that the sun splashed with last friday, the claims was about a young person who the parents of that young person had told the paper had been approached by this presenter and had been asked to supply illicit pictures, had been paid amounts of money for that. that is subject , as you of money for that. that is subject, as you mentioned in your introduction to a police investigation potentially. that's still ongoing. it's called a scoping exercise at the moment that scotland yard is doing to ascertain really if there is any potential criminality here and if they believe that there is, then a criminal investigation could well follow. then of course , we well follow. then of course, we got the other sets of allegations, revelations that

came yesterday with the bbc reporting that that person had suggested that they had . i'd met suggested that they had. i'd met the presenter on a dating app that that that they had then come under pressure to meet that the presenter but hadn't but then also said because they had suggested that they might reveal who the presenter was online that they had then been threatened and with a number of messages that were threatening and abusive and expletive laden , followed on by the sun newspaper again report today another two sets of allegations , ones relating to another two people, one of those individuals said that they had met the presenter on a dating app and that actually had met the presenter in person in during

the third covid lockdown, which was in february of 2021. so that's where we are at the moment. all of these allegations swirling around , we still don't swirling around, we still don't know who the presenter is or at least we're not under privacy laws able to name that that presenter. and so colleagues are now starting to come out and call on this presenter to do that, to come forward. the latest being jeremy vine, who of course tweeted about this last night, then again today on his channel five programme, gave these very strong words to his colleague. this is what he said. it's his decision. >> but he needs to come forward how. >> now. >> i think i know his survival instinct has kicked in and i know he saw what happened to phillip schofield, but my god , phillip schofield, but my god, look at the damage to the bbc. look at the damage to his friends , to those falsely friends, to those falsely accused . and the longer he

accused. and the longer he leaves it, the worse it will for be him . be him. >> mark very interesting what jeremy vine says there, and he's not the only one to say that this individual should unmask himself if you like. but jeremy vine is, is not a lawyer and there are media lawyers who are saying no, he does not have to do this. he has a right to privacy, he has not been charged with any criminal offence . yes with any criminal offence. yes >> and although jeremy vine and some others are suggesting that this presenter should come forward and speak publicly, as you say , it's not just the you say, it's not just the lawyers, there are other colleagues and former colleagues who are suggesting or saying that yes , as you suggest, there that yes, as you suggest, there , the allegations have not been tested in any way, shape or form, really. so we don't know if there is either criminality orindeed if there is either criminality or indeed inappropriate behaviour that might require some kind of sanction, given

that that the presenters should not come forward . in fact, we not come forward. in fact, we heard from presenter richard bacon replying directly to jeremy vine and just saying stop it, you know that this person is entitled to their privacy. and then we heard from john sasha walpole, who is also a former bbc presenter until recently, now of course has a series of podcasts that's on the global radio network saying that that they are aware of that this presenter, this unnamed presenter, this unnamed presenter is very angry at the way that they have been portrayed in the sun newspaper , portrayed in the sun newspaper, that they believe that the sun is just out there actively digging dirt. now to further damage his reputation. so long of people saying lots of different things and we're kind of stuck in a in a limbo where many people who have been on social media will be aware of names that are out there. it's

completely unsatisfactory . but completely unsatisfactory. but privacy laws mean that this person, of course , is entitled person, of course, is entitled to privacy . we can't legally to privacy. we can't legally name this person . and so there name this person. and so there we are . we are. >> mark, as you've been speaking, we've seen bbc staffers going in and out there of new broadcasting house. i don't know if you managed to actually to speak to any of those to gauge the temperature, because one of the other things that jeremy vine asserted was that jeremy vine asserted was that bbc is on its knees. that the bbc is on its knees. and wonders what's going on and one wonders what's going on in terms of the day to in just in terms of the day to day corporation . day running of the corporation. yeah i mean there might be a bit of hyperbole there, to be honest. >> i speak to people because i have friends that work at the bbc and yes, of course there are people that are very angry not just pertaining really at a colleague who might have brought the corporation into to disrepute, disrepute . but and i disrepute, disrepute. but and i say might of because as i say,

the allegations have not been properly investigated , tried and properly investigated, tried and tested at this point . but i tested at this point. but i think also angry just at at the way in which of course the bbc is being battered and battered and battered by the latest revelations , as some of them, it revelations, as some of them, it has to be said, coming, of course, from their own newsroom, who are independent of the corporate structure here. and just like us, are independent, pursuing this story and speaking to people, it was in fact them from bbc news that is that broke the story late yesterday afternoon about that second person that had come forward to allege that they had been the subject of some threatening and abusive and expletive laden message pages from that presenter . presenter. >> mark, outside new broadcasting house. thanks very much indeed for updating us more, of course, as we get it. but let's just remind you now where this all started and the

claims dating back to two months ago when the presenter allegedly paid a teenager £35,000 for explicit photographs . explicit photographs. >> it's a second young person claims they were sent threatening and abusive messages after meeting the unnamed presenter on a dating app . presenter on a dating app. >> the third then involving presenter breaking covid lockdown rules back in 2021. the fourth revelation involves the presenter allegedly sending unsolicited messages to a young person over social media. well, of course, we'll update you as we get more. just as mark was saying , the metropolitan police saying, the metropolitan police are continuing with what they call their scoping inquiries to establish if a criminal offence has been committed. will update you as we get any more developments . developments. >> earlier this hour, we saw deputy prime minister oliver dowden facing deputy angela rayner keir starmer as deputy and that was just that was only about half an hour or so ago. we're going to go live to

westminster now to our political reporter , olivia utley. well it reporter, olivia utley. well it was it was a third week on the bounce, olivia, that those two faced each other nana and i'm not sure. certainly that oliver dowden threw any punches. did he ? >> ?i >> it 7- >> it was ? >> it was indeed. >> it was indeed. >> it was indeed. >> it felt like a little bit of a lacklustre pmqs all round. >> it felt like most of the minds in the commons were elsewhere, whether it be with the or with the the bbc presenter or with the prime minister at nato. so angela asked series of angela rayner asked a series of questions about child poverty, which it took oliver which it seemed took oliver dowden little bit by surprise. dowden a little bit by surprise. he'd warned presumably he'd been warned it presumably in perhaps it in advance, but perhaps it wasn't the of questioning wasn't the line of questioning that was expecting. he that he was expecting. he certainly give clear certainly didn't give any clear , direct response any of her , direct response to any of her questions. and there are a couple of really clanging jokes there. he made a he made a joke about keir starmer, who said that hates tree huggers, that he hates tree huggers, loving, the magic money loving, hugging the magic money tree, which went down pretty badly in the commons. you could see even penny on the see even penny mordaunt on the bench to him almost just bench next to him almost just rolling her eyes. yeah, it didn't feel like there was much

energy. angela rayner used a quite at the quite a clever tactic at the beginning pointing out that beginning of pointing out that the first it's the first time since 1996 when a prime minister has missed more than two pmqs on the trot. so she was comparing herself to john prescott, who was the last deputy prime minister, to be asking questions in that situation. now, of course, 1996 was a year before the labour landslide of 1997. so it felt like her her sort of ulterior motive. there perhaps was to suggest to the commons that now the momentum is all with labour just as it was then, and it did work pretty well actually, because john prescott's line of questioning back in 1996 was all about inflation and home ownership problems, potential of people becoming homeless, homeless because of massive mortgages. and used the phrase tory and she used the phrase tory mortgage bombshell, which sounds very much though it had been very much as though it had been focus groups for labour. so the momentum was certainly with angela rayner. but as i say , a angela rayner. but as i say, a bit all round bit lacklustre all round attention was not really in the

commons today and interesting that lesson on word that history lesson on that word bombshell, because remember the old, advert , the big old, the tory advert, the big sort of screens about the unemployment bombshell, labour isn't working, but i'm just sort of wondering if people are scratching their heads on all the statistics that were hit back forth across the back and forth across the despatch box because we had oliver dowden . asserting that oliver dowden. asserting that there were 400,000 fewer children in absolute poverty and then angela rayner saying 400,000 more children are primary school age, growing up in poverty . in poverty. >> so people will be scratching their heads at that . their heads at that. >> well, absolutely. i mean it's a classic example of politicians using the statistics that suit them by both. you could argue and i've seen the stats behind it in the huddle afterwards, that that both of them were right. but there are sort of different ways of measuring child the fact that child poverty. the fact that there are more children in poverty in out of school as well. that's also a massive problem which wasn't addressed today. know that is today. but we know that is a growing concern and particularly

a really good fuel for the fire for labour really. but yet they were both sort of right, but it very much felt as though angela rayner pulled her punches a bit harder . harder. >> olivia, thank you very much for that. stay with us here on gb news. we will have the latest from the nato summit in lithuania . stay with us. lithuania. stay with us. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello, i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news more heavy showers to come today. there'll be some blue sky at times a fairly cool breeze continuing to blow. we've still got low pressure dominating . it's only slowly dominating. it's only slowly pulling away to the north—east and around. it's bands of showers continue feeding in some heavy ones today across northern scotland, particularly parts of aberdeenshire down to fife , but aberdeenshire down to fife, but also parts of northern ireland, southern scotland seeing some intense showers further

intense showers and further south we'll kind of lines of south we'll see kind of lines of showers for some places having a very wet day, whereas some spots may not see too many and see a bit more in the way of sunshine. there's still a cool breeze blowing there. so temperatures only below only around or a touch below average. high teens, low 20s at best, and feeling cooler when the showers come along, which best, and feeling cooler when the still rs come along, which best, and feeling cooler when the still still me along, which best, and feeling cooler when the still still be along, which best, and feeling cooler when the still still be plenty which there will still be plenty through this evening. still some pretty lively ones. the possibility a rumble of possibility of a rumble of thunder in places, but they do tend fade as we go through tend to fade as we go through the night. so most places will become through the early become dry through the early hours. some showers keeping become dry through the early hours.around showers keeping become dry through the early hours.around the vers keeping become dry through the early hours.around the west.3eping going around the west. temperatures holding up 11 14 temperatures holding up 11 to 14 celsius thursday day, well, it is sunshine and showers , but i is sunshine and showers, but i don't think there'll be many don't think there'll be as many showers tomorrow. better showers tomorrow. a better chance a bit more chance of seeing a bit more sunshine, initially sunshine, particularly initially over central eastern parts , over central and eastern parts, but even through the day, not as many showers parts of many showers developing parts of wales, england wales, south—west england especially, dry. still especially, may stay dry. still some heavy showers to come, particularly in parts of scotland and still generally on the cool side, although the winds will be a little lighter tomorrow, warm feeling

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unnamed bbc presenter now facing four separate sets of allegations . allegations. >> one of his high profile colleagues calling for him to come forward. the latest live new broadcasting . house former new broadcasting. house former prime minister liz truss speaks to gb news about her growth commission on the day the bank of england warns nearly a million households face a £500 rise in repayments by the end of 2026. >> is it all her fault? our economics editor liam halligan will be here in the studio .

will be here in the studio. >> the battle for the home of the dambusters airs and the high court action under go underway rather. asylum seekers are already at a neighbouring raaf base. we'll update you from the high court . and june. high court. and june. >> that's and plenty more still to come. now though, let's get the latest headlines with tatiana . pepe. tatiana. pepe. >> thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. several high profile figures are calling on the unnamed bbc presenter at the centre of allegations to come forward for the good of his colleagues and the corporation. a 23 year old claims the presenter broke covid lockdown rules to meet them during the pandemic. they told the sun that the star travelled across london

to another country to meet them at their flat in february 2021. the presenter is already facing allegations of paying another person for sexually explicit images and sending threatening messages to a young person in their early 20s. messages to a young person in their early 20s . ukraine's their early 20s. ukraine's president zelenskyy says he's grateful to rishi sunak for the uk's support in his country's nato ambitions. he made the comments at the nato summit a day after the nato ukraine council confirmed his country will become a member of the alliance. all members of the g7 are set to sign a long term security arrangement with ukraine later that rishi sunak says has the potential to return peace to europe. nato secretary general jens stoltenberg confirmed it's a huge step for the war torn country. >> ukraine is now closer to nato than ever before . allies than ever before. allies reaffirm claimed that ukraine will become a member of the alliance and agreed to remove the requirement for a membership

action plan. this will change ukraine gains membership path from a two step process to a one step process . step process. >> the bank of england are warning nearly a million mortgage holders in the uk will see their monthly repays payments jump by £500 or more by the end of 2026. mortgage rates have now hit their highest level in 15 years, surpassing figures seen in the aftermath of last year's mini—budget. the central bank says the uk's eight major banks are sturdy enough to handle a fresh economic crisis. it also said that the country has so far been resilient to rapidly rising interest rates . rapidly rising interest rates. but some households and firms may struggle with repayments on loans is now . labour's deputy loans is now. labour's deputy leader says the conservative party has crashed the economy . party has crashed the economy. standing in for rishi sunak prime minister's questions. oliver dowden said the government has taken many

measures to provide support to those struggling . but angela those struggling. but angela rayner accused the deputy prime minister of being completely oblivious to the struggles of working people . working people. >> the truth is rising bills and soaring mortgages and plummeting real wages are pushing more and more families to the brink. those already struggling are being hit hardest by the tory mortgage bombshell and rising food costs. so can he tell us how many primary school children have been pushed into poverty since his government took power ? >> deputy 7 >> deputy prime minister i would say to right honourable lady, it is this party, not the party opposite which extended free school meals to all five, six and seven year olds, something the party opposite failed to do i >> -- >> and it m >> and it sits alongside many measures we are taking to help people with the cost of living . people with the cost of living. >> teachers in england have voted in favour of strike action in their ongoing dispute over

pay- in their ongoing dispute over pay. nearly nine out of ten teacher members of the union who voted in the ballot backed the walkout . but the union, which walkout. but the union, which passed the 50% ballot threshold, says it plans to stage continuous industrial action starting in september. strike dates in the autumn term will also be considered and coordinated with other unions, where possible . lawyers for the where possible. lawyers for the russian billionaire roman abramovich say that sanctions imposed on him by the european union are baseless. us appearing at the european court of justice, lawyers for abramovich argued that the charges against him were imposed simply because he is a famous russian businessman , an the former owner businessman, an the former owner of the chelsea football club was sanctioned by both the eu and the uk due to his close ties with the russian president . and with the russian president. and finally, parades have been taking place across northern ireland as protestant loyal orders celebrate the 12th of july . the main celebrations are

july. the main celebrations are taking place at 18 venues, including belfast, as well as bangor co down and ballymena. thousands of orange order members accompanied by 600 marching bands , are taking part marching bands, are taking part in the festivities to mark the 333rd anniversary of the battle of the boyne. the orange order says an estimated half a million people are expected to take part in the celebrations . you're with in the celebrations. you're with gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to mark and . back to mark and. pip >> look at the damage done. the words of radio host jeremy vine on the unnamed bbc presenter at the heart of the scandal. the number of allegations now against some rising to four. >> the presenter was suspended over the weekend while the met police is investigating whether a criminal offence has been

committed. a home and security edhoh committed. a home and security editor, mark white can give us the latest from broadcasting house. good afternoon , mark. house. good afternoon, mark. jeremy vine the latest presenter now saying that this unnamed presenter should name himself . presenter should name himself. >> yeah, i mean it was a very strong intervention. it has to be said, from jeremy vine. he tweeted last night originally to say that he believed he starting to believe that it might be time for this presenter to come forward and make some kind of pubuc forward and make some kind of public declaration to speak publicly on this issue. but this morning in his programme on five live, jeremy vine i think went much further . it was live, jeremy vine i think went much further. it was a very strong statement that he made on that programme, very explicitly calling on his colleague now to come forward and talk publicly on an issue that he says is very

damaging to the bbc. this is what he said and it's his decision . decision. >> but he needs to come forward now. i think i know his survival instinct has kicked in and i know he saw what happened to phillip schofield, but my god , phillip schofield, but my god, look at the damage to the bbc. look at the damage to his friends and to those falsely accused . and the longer he accused. and the longer he leaves it, the worse it will be for him. >> and indeed, mark, give us an idea as to as to the atmosphere here. there you've seen the bbc staffers going in and out at lunchtime. now, of course, because jeremy vine also said the corporation is on its knees as a result of this . as a result of this. >> yeah, i mean, that's clearly his opinion. i've spoken to friends of mine who work here at the bbc and there's mixed opinion indians, as you would imagine , in an institution like imagine, in an institution like this with so many people who work here, there is definite

angeh work here, there is definite anger, without a doubt, at the way that the bbc is being constantly battered by these allegations. but where jeremy vine believes that his colleague, this unnamed presenter , should come out and presenter, should come out and speak publicly and there are others that say he's entitled to his privacy, that none of these allegations have been tested in any way . there's still a allegations have been tested in any way. there's still a scoping exercise rise on the original allegation. it was broken by the sun newspaper last friday day to determine whether any criminality might have occurred. and if so, then we could see the potential of a criminal investigation. but they're not there yet. they're still scoping out whether to launch that investigation. and while that's happening , the internal happening, the internal investigations here at the bbc have been halted at the request of the metropolitan police. so they can't look at any of the other allegations, options that are being reported by the sun newspaper. and indeed by their own news division . and while

own news division. and while thatis own news division. and while that is happening, we're all in limbo. really, we can't because of these very strict privacy laws, name ourselves , name the laws, name ourselves, name the presenter, even if we felt that was appropriate . clearly, the was appropriate. clearly, the people at the centre of the allegations can't and won't be named unless any of them come forward themselves and want to speak and be in the public spotlight. in that sense , yes. spotlight. in that sense, yes. so you have five people here on the side of this unnamed presenter , people taking the presenter, people taking the view that jeremy vine takes. but but most people here just thoroughly fed up of the absolute media kicking that the bbc is getting day in and day out here. >> mark, thank you for that update. let's speak now to the bbc's former legal correspondent clive coleman . good to see you, clive coleman. good to see you, clive. this afternoon on gb

news. tell me, where do you stand on this? the public interest, as we know , is interest, as we know, is humongous. so is there now a point where the public interest has over taken the law of privacy ? do you think ? privacy? do you think? >> okay. >> okay. >> well, let me just do a little bit of explanation on that, because it it's complex and it's a really delicate balance, really . when the human rights really. when the human rights act came into domestic law in 2000, it set up, if you like , a 2000, it set up, if you like, a battle royal between, on the one hand, the rights to a private and family life that all individuals enjoy. but on the other hand, there was article ten, the right to freedom of expression. the other . and expression. on the other. and whenever there is a big privacy case, the court the judge appues case, the court the judge applies what they call an intense focus aukus to that balance between on the right to privacy and the right to freedom of expression . and it's of expression. and it's absolutely clear that what has happened so far is that every media organisation in the country has been given the same

legal advice that you do not identify. you do not publish the name of the presenter because the right to privacy is established. now in our law through a series of cases . the through a series of cases. the cliff richard case, which the bbc ironically was involved in, but also in another case at the supreme court involving the bloomberg news organisation . it bloomberg news organisation. it is so firmly established that if you are a suspect or involved, even identified in the early stages of a criminal investigation, you have the right to be anonymous . we've had right to be anonymous. we've had more allegations since the original allegation . now the original allegation. now the question is, does anything within those allegations raise raise the public interest if you like? and we've heard the reports in the sun about allegations of breaching covid rules. now, all of that does go into the balance. it is when the intense focus is applied that goesin intense focus is applied that goes in on the public interest side. now, i suspect that the presenters, lawyers are advising the presenter that this is a

situation in flux . and it may be situation in flux. and it may be that if more enters the public domain that that will embolden a news organisation. the sun has had plenty of opportunities to identify. the presenter has chosen not to, but is more information enters the public domain which they regard as being clearly in the public interest . then the balance could interest. then the balance could shift also . so we saw this back shift also. so we saw this back in 1213 years ago when we had the superinjunctions. do you remember the superinjunctions , remember the superinjunctions, ryan giggs and so forth . you ryan giggs and so forth. you know, at that there came a point where so many people on social media were naming ryan giggs and then got up in the house of commons and named him. and, you know, the more law we have, you know, the more law we have, you know, sort of vacuum, the more likely it is that someone either a, you know, a parliament or a news organisation is going to be emboldened and eventually the presenter will be named. so of course that is putting pressure on to name themselves. >> yeah, you'd have of course

what's called qualified privilege as a defence from defamation. if you use that information coming out in the house of commons, quoting what the mp said. but i'm just thinking about when does the tipping point occur ? what might tipping point occur? what might call it a force majeure that when on so many people know the name and it's being disseminated across social media, when is it no longer private ? as such ? no longer private? as such? >> well, it's really interesting, isn't it? because you know, the law is very clear and it bites very hard on the mainstream media as far as the internet is concerned. and social media, then, you know, it's it i wouldn't call it the wild west exactly. but there are people who clearly post on social media who either aren't aware of the law at all or they're aware of it, and they think they can flout it because they're doing it in a 140 word, 280 word tweet to those people, i would say be incredibly careful. remember sally bercow, the speaker of the wife of the

speaker of the house of commons, who are in relation to a case involving lord mcalpine in you'll remember this, this was a newsnight report into child abuse at a children's care home in wales, which didn't name lord mcalpine, but implicated a conservative politician from the thatcher years. lord mcalpine's name started then trend on social media and sally bercow posted a tweet which said , why posted a tweet which said, why is lord mcalpine trending trending? and then in asterix innocent face, she was sued for defamation and she ended up paying defamation and she ended up paying very substantial damages. so you you tweet , you paying very substantial damages. so you you tweet, you blog at your peril . but an answer to your peril. but an answer to your peril. but an answer to your question, when is there a tipping point? i think it really comes down to a news if it's going to be done through a news organisation, then it comes down to what evidence do they have? how powerful is it and how what is what are the public interests arguments. it's a judgement. what i would say though is i think news rooms are very nervous because every time one

of these cases has come before the courts the last few the courts in the last few years, has increased privacy years, it has increased privacy protection and in a way that's what news organisations don't want. they want to be able to . want. they want to be able to. in days we were , we, we in the old days we were, we, we didn't a right in uk law didn't have a right in uk law until 2005. >> very quickly given all this, what is your assessment as a former bbc legal correspondent and how the bbc has coped with this? because we've got victoria atkins, the treasury minister, saying lessons to be learned by the bbc. and we learn the dg has not even spoken directly to the presenter concerned . presenter concerned. >> yeah, well, i think that, you know, the bbc is going to have to scrutiny itself very carefully indeed. and if you think about, for instance , the think about, for instance, the panorama scandal, the martin bashir scandal, you know, trust is such a critical thing for the bbc. you know, they brought in a senior retired judge to scrutinise it all. i wouldn't be surprised if in due course we have an exercise along those lines just to see what happened at each stage. and was it done

properly? was it done quickly enough? were the right policies followed? >> clive, thank you very much indeed for your time . indeed for your time. >> coming up next on gb news, the boss of nato says ukraine is closer than ever to membership. we will be discussing that very shortly . don't go anywhere. shortly. don't go anywhere. first, here's the weather . first, here's the weather. >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello , i'm alex deakin and >> hello, i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. more heavy showers to come today. there'll be some blue sky at times a fairly cool breeze continues to blow. we've still got low pressure dominating. it's only slowly pulling away to the north—east and around its bands of showers continually feeding in some heavy ones. today across northern scotland, particularly parts of aberdeen down to fife, but also parts of northern ireland, southern scotland seeing some intense showers. and

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listening to gb news radio. >> welcome back to the live desk. let's update you on this key meeting that's been going on in vilnius with the nato chief, jens stoltenberg, striking a defiant note during the news conference with president zelenskyy telling reporters the ukraine was closer than ever to nato membership and that moscow does not get to decide who is in that alliance. this comes a day after the ukrainian president criticised nato's apparent reluctance to set a timeline for his country's accession to the alliance, but struck a more conciliatory tone, saying he understands why ukraine couldn't become a member whilst a war is raging within its borders . raging within its borders. >> but how will all of this be going down in moscow ? going down in moscow? >> so let's get the thoughts of

former intelligence analyst for the former soviet states and grant can join us. you and thank you for your time once more. indeed. i think i can probably answer our own question. apparently medvedev, some suggest he's putin's useful idiot , has suggest he's putin's useful idiot, has basically said world war iii is approaching. so that's his assessment of what's happenedin that's his assessment of what's happened in vilnius. >> he is the puppet of putin. >> he is the puppet of putin. >> he is the puppet of putin. >> he puts out the ridiculous stuff for the russian domestic audience as remember, they famously said he was robin to putin's batman. and it wasn't compliment. >> yeah. however, it does indicate perhaps a line of thought in the kremlin on this. >> well , thought in the kremlin on this. >> well, again, they have to defend their flank, particularly because of the chaos and uncertainty over prigozhin and wagner. >> wagner will carry on more or less as normal in africa. of course. but there is more than that. and of course, if you ramp the rhetoric up in order not to seem ridiculous, you have to do something eventually, don't you? well, that was, of course, the

invasion . he did this in 2021. invasion. he did this in 2021. he couldn't get away with a bluff again, could he? yeah >> and what do we make now of where we are with the position of ukraine within nato, even though it's not actually joining? it's called an israel style security guarantee? no one's quite sure about what that's going to mean. if obviously the push comes to shove. >> yes, indeed. because, of course, the crucial difference has been pointed out with israel and its adversaries is that at the moment it has the nuclear bomb and they don't. it's frankly not much different from what the ukrainians will privately have expected . and the privately have expected. and the hints were obvious . it is more hints were obvious. it is more more than just words, though , more than just words, though, because ultimately when push comes to shove in the middle east, if israel were to disappear , the then that, of disappear, the then that, of course, is another example of the end of the western order and ukraine is not far off that

situation as well. so privately , the ukrainians won't be too upset. the devil will be in the detail. >> and what about the issue of cluster bombs , which the us is cluster bombs, which the us is going to supply to ukraine? the kremlin have said they will respond if ukraine uses cluster bombs. >> yeah, that is very clever on their part because it will win over some of the more naive and single minded people who say good and bad . good and bad. >> i think they're setting up to create an alibi . they will say create an alibi. they will say there's been a use and they might do a false flag. of course, we've been here an awful lot about false flags, haven't we? and then they will accelerate with more missile strikes or even conceivably deniable aces metric attacks, more cyber power, more serious cyber , including on the west and cyber, including on the west and cables, pipelines and internet

cables, pipelines and internet cables . but of course, the point cables. but of course, the point is their denials that they have been using them are not worth a piece of paper. >> one suspects that behind the scenes in vilnius there'll be an assessment being made is russia lose ing? >> yeah. on all sides, including russia's inserted friends in nato and the baltic states. not that they have so many, many, nearly so many of them. >> do you mean hungary and orban? >> yes. and also some of their sleepers in western countries. tell us. tell us more. they do. there'll be a lot of attention to the internal security within nato, brussels , eu, brussels has nato, brussels, eu, brussels has been leaky with the russians for a long time . and of course, a long time. and of course, although that's eu , brussels, although that's eu, brussels, not nato, brussels, they're in the same city, the same restaurants , the same bars, the restaurants, the same bars, the same hotels . so the russians same hotels. so the russians will be getting backchannel and they will have their own sources

. but i think what was crucial was the way erdogan not orban, because orban is relatively small beer in comparison, but still to be obviously be difficult in terms of getting sweden on board fully. >> of course, as a new nato member. >> indeed, yes. they don't write off mr orban . he has friends. off mr orban. he has friends. but but erdogan does seem to be looking to, if not certainly not a russian victory. he is hedging his bets with america nana he reckons ukraine will survive. and that is obviously already being noted in moscow . being noted in moscow. >> so but when you when you look at it geographically, especially with sweden this week, russia is looking increasingly isolated . looking increasingly isolated. >> sweden is a big sweden is a game changer. that is a big arrival . technically culturally arrival. technically culturally and geographically. the swedes have equipment. they know how to

use it . use it. >> okay. last thought. how therefore does that change the assessment of others in moscow ? assessment of others in moscow? and given, as you were saying, what's happened with the wagner and so on, are they going to be increasing threats to putin's power base? >> not in the interim. um, but so i don't think it will be a particularly hectic summer for him. but autumn and winter might be different . be different. >> why do you say that ? >> why do you say that? >> why do you say that? >> because the longer it goes on, the more people will start to have doubts and hedge their bets, and maybe the more successful the counter—offensive may be on the on the ground counter offensive in all senses, politically, economically , politically, economically, because i don't think it's going to make that much more progress. it's a long process. okay >> well, thank you very much indeed. we'll see what course more reaction with the prime minister due to speak in vilnius within the hour. so we'll find out what's happening. thank you very much for your time. thank you. >> come back, the battle >> when we come back, the battle for the dambusters.

for the home of the dambusters. we at the high court where we are at the high court where local are trying to local councils are trying to stop government plans to house asylum seekers at raf bases. first, the headlines with tatiana . tatiana. >> good afternoon . this is the >> good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom . latest from the newsroom. several high profile figures are calling on the unnamed bbc presenter at the centre of allegations to come forward for the good of his colleagues at the good of his colleagues at the corporation . a 23 year old the corporation. a 23 year old claims the presenter broke covid lockdown rules to meet them dunng lockdown rules to meet them during the pandemic. they told the sun that the star travelled across london to another country to meet them at their flat in 2021. the presenters, already facing allegations of paying another person for sexually explicit photos and sending threatening messages to a young person in their early 20s. ukraine president zelenskyy says he's grateful to rishi sunak for the uk's support in his

country's nato ambitions . he country's nato ambitions. he made the comments at the nato summit a day after the nato ukraine council confirmed his country will become a member of the alliance. all members of the g7 are set to sign a long term security arrangement with ukraine later that, rishi sunak says has the potential all to return peace to europe . if the return peace to europe. if the bank of england a warning nearly a million mortgage holders in the uk will see their monthly repayments jump by £500 or more by the end of 2026. mortgage rates have now hit their highest level in 15 years, surpassing figures seen in the aftermath of last year's mini—budget. the central bank says the uk's eight major banks are sturdy enough to handle a fresh economic crisis. it also said that the country has so far been resilient to rapidly rising interest rates. but some households and firms may struggle with repayments on loans . and parades are taking

loans. and parades are taking place across northern ireland as protestant loyal orders celebrate the 12th of july. the main celebrations are taking place at 18 venues, including belfast , as well place at 18 venues, including belfast, as well as bangor, co down and ballymena , where down and ballymena, where thousands of orange order members , accompanied by 600 members, accompanied by 600 marching bands, are part marching bands, are taking part in the festivities to mark the 333rd anniversary of the battle of the boyne . you can get more of the boyne. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . gold and silver investment. here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.2906 and ,1.1709. the price of gold is £1,498.60 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is at

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gb news radio. >> you're watching the live desk on gb news with mark longhurst and pip tomson west lindsey council in lincolnshire has returned to the high court in an ongoing attempt to prevent 2000 asylum seekers from being housed at scampton . known for at scampton. known for previously being the home of the dambusters. well, that hearing determining whether the case can proceed to a full judicial review to potentially halt those plans. >> our east midlands reporter will hollis has been updating us on the story for months now . on the story for months now. >> no aircraft has flown in or out of raf scampton , but soon out of raf scampton, but soon hundreds of asylum seekers could start landing here. residents like jason live on the camp's edge. he says government

proposals sideline the people living here. it feels like we don't matter for like nothing that we've got to say matter at all. >> realistically , although they >> realistically, although they say temporary, i would guess it's many, many years we would be the community that essentially picks up the pieces once they've gone . once they've gone. >> the home office risks being overwhelmed by the backlog of asylum claims in march, it announced a plan to build temporary accommodation at old military bases to accommodate thousands of migrants. one here at scampton, near lincoln , at scampton, near lincoln, another at wethersfield in essex . local councils have hit back, claiming it's the wrong plan in the wrong place . they say that the wrong place. they say that the wrong place. they say that the home office is misusing planning legislation . snap back planning legislation. snap back to the present west. lindsey and braintree councils are getting their day in court. the permissions hearing today will

determine whether the bigger judicial review can happen. roger ager is southampton's councillor. he says a multi—million pound deal to develop the old dam busters raaf base into a heritage attraction is at risk. >> it's not about the asylum seekers. everybody focuses on that to an extent, not about the asylum seekers. it's about people's jobs and future jobs. the regeneration of everything . the regeneration of everything. it's about whether we have a future ourselves as an estate or we don't have a future which has happened at other bases. if i wasn't confident that or i just, i'd be i'd be depressed. wasn't confident that or i just, i'd be i'd be depressed . you i'd be i'd be depressed. you know, i don't want to be depressed . depressed. >> in a statement, the home office said delivering accommodation on surplus military sites will end the use of expensive hotels to house those arriving in small boats . those arriving in small boats. as we continue to work closely with the local authorities to address the local community's concerns , nobody's spoken to us concerns, nobody's spoken to us about it. >> they're from the home office and no. one. and as i said, the

only response i've seen from the home office is to confirm that they will not speak to us. face to face. >> the swelling pressure on britain's asylum system is spilling out across the country, despite intentions . it's unknown despite intentions. it's unknown if it will wash through here. will hollis gb news scampton , will hollis gb news scampton, our political reporter catherine forster joins us now . forster joins us now. >> good afternoon to you, catherine. you are outside the high court . just tell us high court. just tell us a little bit more then about this legal action. explain it for us because there are three different bids , but they're very different bids, but they're very similar megxit yes, there are . similar megxit yes, there are. there are three. two of them relate to the raf base. wethersfield in essex, and then the third one that we've just been hearing about from willis raf scampton in lincoln shire. now that of course has the additional complication in that they're supposed to be a £300

million regenerate project . but million regenerate project. but putting that because it was the dambusters base, the red arrows also used to be there and had people living there say that that it people living there say that thatitis people living there say that that it is at risk. so that's in addition to the concerns that they share with the residents down in essex of the effects of putting one and a half to 2006 royal mail, asylum seekers on these bases in fairly rural areas , they say they don't have areas, they say they don't have the capacity , they don't have the capacity, they don't have the capacity, they don't have the infrastructure . these people the infrastructure. these people will be free to come and go as they please. many locals are extremely concerned about the implications of that. so this morning we were hearing the appeals relating to the site at wethersfield in essex . later on, wethersfield in essex. later on, we will be hearing the one for lincolnshire , but the case lincolnshire, but the case putting forward the case for one of the wethersfield residents did say that migrants have

already arrived at the site in essex today, though apparently reporters haven't seen them yet. but certainly they are going to be arriving, which then raises the question, if this request to get a judicial review is successful, what then happens to people that have already been put there and just to explain rikki neave , regardless of the rikki neave, regardless of the outcome of today's his court appearance, they'd have to go through another process to actually get the injunction underway . underway. >> they us exactly this hearing today and tomorrow is just to get permission for a judicial review that would then take as long as it would take and then a decision would come from that. >> so as with all of these things we've seen, haven't we, up the country, up and down the country, whenever government want to whenever the government want to put seekers in military put asylum seekers in military bases or wherever , that's not bases or wherever, that's not hotels, there's a lot of local

opposition and that's the problem. nobody seems to want these people near them . and these people near them. and another legal headache for the government on top of all the challenges that it's currently having with its plans to get its illegal migration bill through the houses of parliament, catherine force outside the royal courts of justice. thank you for explaining that . you for explaining that. >> i think we're clearer, but we'll keep you updated, of course, on what happens in that case and the moves itself to on wethersfield airfield may be a little bit later. >> now, we really hate to keep saying this, but there is more bad news for homeowners as the bank of england boss has warned of consequences of higher borrowing costs. with around 1 million mortgage borrowers expected to pay around £500 more for monthly repayments that is just ridiculous. >> well , it just ridiculous. >> well, it may be an underestimate. some may actually believe, and it comes as a former prime minister. yes, liz truss launched what she called a growth commission today. the

project looking to revive what was her pro—growth agenda . you was her pro—growth agenda. you may remember the kwasi kwarteng, the chancellor britain, of course, going into a low growth, high tax economy, in her view , high tax economy, in her view, and many other economists. let's speak to our business editor, liam halligan , who's been at liam halligan, who's been at that meeting with on the money . that meeting with on the money. well, yeah, we haven't got the growth, certainly that she had promised. and clearly we've got the inflation that they were saying perhaps wouldn't be quite as bad at that stage. lots of economic news around this morning. >> as you say, pip, the bank of england come with its england has come out with its latest financial stability report. in that report, it mentioned been saying mentioned what we've been saying for weeks, actually, that an average family is going to be paying average family is going to be paying a lot for its paying a lot more for its mortgage costs as they come out of those two and five year fixed rate deals. given that interest rates have gone up and the fact that interest rates have gone up and gilt yields have gone up,

government borrowing costs have gone up, that's one reason why the minister liz the former prime minister liz truss, launched this growth truss, has launched this growth commission. on this morning she asked chair that press asked me to chair that press conference, which i was pleased to do as a journalist. got to do as a journalist. she's got together a dozen or so economists from around the world, economists, some world, british economists, some pretty ranking economists, pretty high ranking economists, it must be said, a former chief economist cbi , another economist of the cbi, another former senior treasury official, she's got us economists, japanese , indian, latin american japanese, indian, latin american economist , japanese, indian, latin american economist, us. and i think they're united by the notion that the western world has forgot that growth is vitally important . there forgot that growth is vitally important. there is still a lot of growth that we can engender. there is still a lot of technological advances. it isn't just the likes of china , india just the likes of china, india and brazil that are going to grow fast in the next few years. and liz truss , after the growth and liz truss, after the growth commission report was launched that she allowed me to ask ask her a few questions exclusively for gb news and here she is .

for gb news and here she is. well, what we've seen for decadesis well, what we've seen for decades is low economic growth and what that means is people are worse off than they need to be. >> today's report shows that they are £10,000 worse off insurgents spending power than people in the united states. >> and it's , of course, vital >> and it's, of course, vital that families are able to keep more of their own money. >> they're able to earn more to money help deal with the inevitable difficulties in life, whether it's inflation action, whether it's inflation action, whether it's inflation action, whether it's needing to buy a new car, you know , having that new car, you know, having that extra growth is vitally important . so extra growth is vitally important. so what this commission is looking at it is what are the policies needed and to get that economic growth . to get that economic growth. >> some people might say, you were prime minister, your policies were rejected by financial markets. there was financial markets. there was financial turmoil. what would your response be to them ? your response be to them? >> what this is about is about

looking at the long term. we know that we've had low growth here in the united kingdom and right across the western world for decades . so what i'm for decades. so what i'm interested in is how do we change that? how do we make our situation better? >> and what would you say , say, >> and what would you say, say, about the state of economic forecasting? you famously said economic forecasts aren't destiny during the leadership hustings for your party at the core of this growth commission is going to be some economic modelling . why do we need modelling. why do we need different economic modelling to what we've already got ? what we've already got? >> well, of course no one can predict the future, but what we do know is if we have too much regulation and if we have very high taxes , then that leads to high taxes, then that leads to people being less likely to go out to work. businesses being less likely to establish . and less likely to establish. and what i want to see from the growth commission is economic analysis that looks at that dynamic effect of those policies

so that we have better economic forecasting and ultimately better policies that lead to economic growth . economic growth. >> the thing is, liam, people will be watching liz truss there and thinking, well, hang on a minute. she was prime minister for all of 44 days. she and kwasi kwarteng caused chaos . why kwasi kwarteng caused chaos. why the heck should we be listening to what she has to say? they're taking it seriously. >> some economists were seriously dispute that account. i mean, the bank of england started selling bonds two days before the mini—budget a very controversial thing to do, throwing more government debt at the financial markets just at the financial markets just at the time when liz truss and kwasi kwarteng were about to announce , you know, lower taxes announce, you know, lower taxes and a different fiscal path. so that's highly controversial . and that's highly controversial. and also if liz truss wrecked the economy, why are gilt yields now higher than they were at the height of the crisis after the mini—budget? i mean, government borrowing costs are much, much higher now. mortgages are much,

much higher . higher now. mortgages are much, much higher. even though higher now. mortgages are much, much higher . even though we've much higher. even though we've got so—called sensible people. i'm just pointing the counterfactual to you and the real thrust of what's happening here rishi here politically, right? rishi sunak not going to like this sunak is not going to like this at this launch, there was priti patel, obviously, as former senior cabinet minister. there was ranil jayawardena , who is was ranil jayawardena, who is a former minister of state, had him on earlier this week, liz truss, and he has put together what he says is a group of 60 to 70 tory mps who believe in this kind of economics. >> and indeed we interviewed him here on gb news. they don't believe in the highest tax burden in 70 years. >> they don't believe in frozen tax thresholds and fiscal drag. they believe in this they don't believe in this nofion they don't believe in this notion that we've just got to notion that we've just got to not cut taxes in the run up to the next election. >> however, you will know that rishi sunak and jeremy hunt will say you're addressing the wrong issue. it's not about growth at the about the moment, it's about inflation. there are inflation. and there are economists, gordon, of economists, panmure gordon, of course, investment bank, saying if the kwarteng truss experiment

would have been allowed , we'd would have been allowed, we'd have had even worse inflation because obviously the tax cuts would have fuelled that inflation ever higher . inflation ever higher. >> this is the debate and at least there is now a debate. i don't think you can possibly you can't just dismissively say now that kwarteng and truss wrecked the economy. i mean, you can and labour will lots of labour will and lots of journalists will, but it's not actually , you know, that that actually, you know, that that nofion actually, you know, that that notion can be factually, seriously challenged. now, given that government borrowing costs are much higher than they were at the time of the mini—budget and what's interesting is that truss is attacking there, and she almost did it in that clip with me by the office for budget responsibility, whitehall forecasters, who she says are too gloomy, they're too interested in high taxation and a bigger state. they're not interested in a pro—growth agenda. >> did she talk about the bank of england? because one of the points you've made obviously, is that was late on parade that the bank was late on parade and actually tackling inflation. did reflect on that aspect? >> well, she has been quite critical, the obr,

critical, not just of the obr, but of the bank of england. but i think liz truss and certainly the members growth the members of the growth commission i've to commission that i've spoken to that they're that i don't think they're going to be in the business of trying to be in the business of trying to defrock the old of to defrock the old lady of threadneedle to push threadneedle street to push andrew or even to andrew bailey out or even to change independence change the model of independence , because i think to do that when finances are obviously when our finances are obviously under close would really frighten the horses. that would under close would really frighten asz horses. that would under close would really frighten asz horses.the3t would under close would really frighten asz horses.the goalposts be seen as moving the goalposts in middle of game. and in the middle of the game. and i certainly haven't advocated that despite critical of despite me being critical of andrew what would say andrew bailey. what i would say though, i think a lot of though, is that i think a lot of people on growth commission people on the growth commission think bank england think that the bank of england needs cognitive needs more sort of cognitive diversity, less groupthink, more people who worry that we printed too much money, we that who worry that one way to fix the finances of a country might actually be to grow faster and tax a bit less. you know, it's not a particularly controversial view through history. >> thank you for your cognitive diversity as ever here on gb news. thank you. okay. now, coming up , if you're heading news. thank you. okay. now, coming up, if you're heading off for school holidays, many of for school holidays, as many of you will be careful if you will be, will be careful if you're italy ,

you're heading to italy, sardinia, sicily , even greece, sardinia, sicily, even greece, record temperatures as a fierce heat wave. they say are sweeping across the southern mediterrane i >> -- >> ian, the heat wave coming over from the saharan desert has been named cerberus and it will cause temperatures in italy to exceed 40 degrees with sicily and sardinia getting the hottest, maybe even hitting 47 to 48 degrees. >> well, the records so far in europe, 48.8 degrees broken in 2021. also in sicily . so could 2021. also in sicily. so could it be actually going after its own record? joining us, weather journalist nathan rao is in the studio. nathan, thank you very much indeed. you're welcome. it always gets hot in summer surprise. however this is something completely different. >> this has been named the cerberus wave , the guardian cerberus heat wave, the guardian of gates to the underworld of the gates to the underworld of the gates to the underworld of the gates to the underworld of the dante's inferno . of the dante's inferno. >> and the name is in the title. >> and the name is in the title. >> the clue is in the title. this is hot. this is hotter than a lot of people have been a lot of people will have been used to. >> certainly brits going or

anyone from anywhere anyone from from from anywhere else on holiday. else going to europe on holiday. these high these are very, very high temperatures and unusually high temperatures. >> extreme heat that we're >> an extreme heat that we're told can heat stroke, told that can cause heat stroke, cardiovascular or respiratory disease problems as well. >> i this can be harmful to health. >> absolutely. i mean, we always hear during the summer when we get hot weather, even in the uk, we get people going, oh, it's only summer and it's the hot only summer and oh, it's the hot weather and everyone makes hot weather and everyone makes hot weather can make weather can kill it can make people ill. and very hot weather like and the nhs, like this can kill. and the nhs, when get hot weather like when we get hot weather like this, never like this. but when we hot weather the uk, we get hot weather in the uk, hydrate stay out hydrate and hydration, stay out of sun, keep the shade of the sun, keep to the shade just give us a little bit of just to give us a little bit of a campari's lesson. >> then remember last july when it baking you stepped it was baking and you stepped out house and you out of your house and you thought you were walking into an oven? that felt oven? yes. and that felt horrific. how does can you horrific. so how does can you give us some of this give us some idea of how this compares, even worse compares, how it's even worse than that? that was awful. >> last july, we were >> now, last july, we were seeing the seeing temperatures in the mid to high and on one day in to high 30s. and on one day in july, we 43.3 degrees, which july, we got 43.3 degrees, which is record temperature that

is the record temperature that we've uk. and we've ever seen in the uk. and that blisteringly hot. it that was blisteringly hot. it was. i mean, i couldn't i was in here actually on that and here actually on that day and i had to sort of walk out into an oven. this is even hotter. i mean, we've 39 degrees in mean, we've got 39 degrees in croatia, in greece, croatia, 44 degrees in greece, 41 in cyprus, 44 in spain, 45 degrees in italy. and it could get hotter. these are temperatures that are people are not used to and especially people going on holiday where there's going to be alcohol and swimming and kids and all that sort of thing. >> yeah, we're just looking at the pictures we've got. >> i think that's probably rome there. and obviously, you know , there. and obviously, you know, they're trying to make the best of it, but i mean, the acropolis in athens , we're being told the in athens, we're being told the red cross is giving out free water there, effectively putting tarpaulin screens to actually shade people from the fierce heat.i shade people from the fierce heat. i mean, these are like emergency measures. >> this is an emergency measures. and again, if you think of the uk, we call a heat wave here. anything where we get around 25 to degrees for around 25 to 28 degrees for three in a row and the

three days in a row and the overnight temperatures don't drop now we're looking drop below 15. now we're looking at of 45. these are at temperatures of 45. these are temperatures which are absolutely you know, you will wilt and you know, and wilt in. and we you know, and these people these are these are people going these are tourist people are tourist spots where people are going out all day having going to be out all day having fun, not really thinking about the danger don't to the danger that we don't want to be killjoy and ruin their be a killjoy and ruin their holidays. something to be holidays. but something to be very holidays. but something to be vehl mean, to a look at the >> i mean, to have a look at the map. yeah. this shows us that the hotspots, the mega hotspots, we say, talk us we should say, and just talk us through yeah. so through that. nathan yeah. so we've got 43 degrees spain how. >> now. >> spain is at 42, 43 degrees in spain. and then as we go further east now, this heat wave has come it's a high come up from africa. it's a high pressure that's come from pressure system that's come from the sahara. so this is coming up through you see through europe. but you can see there, right, if go to the there, right, if you go to the southern of italy, that's 36 southern tip of italy, that's 36 degrees. degrees. am i degrees. then 38 degrees. am i seeing there? so that's seeing right there? so that's nonh seeing right there? so that's north africa. 34 degrees, north africa. but 34 degrees, 37. very, very, very 37. these are very, very, very high temperatures, 42 over towards cyprus. >> obe and looking >> yeah, 40 obe and it's looking like to get hotter like it's going to get hotter through the week. through through the week. >> they're looking >> i mean, they're looking at possibly record breaking temperatures across europe. this week. is week. so it's it really is a case being careful. case of being careful.

>> inevitably question >> and inevitably the question will this just will be asked, is this just a one because of some kind of one off because of some kind of plume coming out of the sahara or is it another indication that we've global warming, we've got this global warming, global global global warming now the global warming debate huge debate warming debate is a huge debate and climate change is a very multifaceted beast. >> you know, is the >> it's, you know, is the climate changing? if it is, is it our fault? is it due to carbon dioxide? and if it is all of those things? there of those things? is there anything do about now anything we can do about it now in terms climate change in terms of the climate change issue, there is no doubt we've seen the hottest on record seen the hottest june on record in uk that was confirmed by in the uk that was confirmed by the the first the met office and the first week july the hottest week in july was the hottest week in july was the hottest week record. that was week on record. that was confirmed by the world meteorological organisation. there is no doubt the climate is absolutely and getting absolutely changing and getting hotter climate change hotter. climate change and global warming that comes into whether it's carbon dioxide or whether it's carbon dioxide or whether fault. and we whether it's our fault. and we know that the world meteorological said meteorological organisation said that towards the that we're creeping towards the 1.5 c above where we were 1.5 degree c above where we were supposed to be going. that was agreed in the in the paris agreement. >> okay. so that debate is still going but we do know is going on. but what we do know is that that mercury climbing

that that mercury is climbing across the southern parts of europe. and if you're going on houday europe. and if you're going on holiday now for school holidays , be very careful, have fun, but be careful and know the risks of the weather. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> advice . stay us here on >> advice. stay with us here on gb we will have the very gb news. we will have the very latest on bbc presenter latest on the bbc presenter scandal, plus a senior figure at the post office is talking to us, telling us why they're backing gb news don't kill backing the gb news don't kill cash campaign. that and much more at the top of the hour. window eight. >> we'll see you now a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news afternoon. >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update for gb news from the met office. more heavy showers to come this afternoon. if you dodge them every now and then, the sun will p0p every now and then, the sun will pop out. but it doesn't feel to warm out there. thanks to a brisk breeze. low pressure continuing to dominate and around just seeing around that we are just seeing bands of showers moving in. now. some south haven't

some parts of the south haven't seen too showers, but some seen too many showers, but some places here have just seen one after they're kind of after another. they're kind of in . there's slow in lines. there's plenty of slow moving, showers across moving, heavy showers across northern this evening . northern scotland this evening. but generally through the evening, the showers will tend to fade away. certainly a good chunk of england and wales will become overnight. northern become dry overnight. northern ireland, too. and with clear skies, temperatures down ireland, too. and with clear sk ruralzmperatures down ireland, too. and with clear sk rural spots, tures down ireland, too. and with clear sk rural spots, maybe down ireland, too. and with clear sk rural spots, maybe even down ireland, too. and with clear sk rural spots, maybe even into in in rural spots, maybe even into single most towns single figures. but most towns and at 11 to 14. and cities stay at 11 to 14. tomorrow may well start fine and sunny for quite a good part of the country . but we will sunny for quite a good part of the country. but we will again see some showers developing now. not as many, not as widespread, not as heavy as today, but there could still be some lively ones over midlands, east and over the midlands, east and england particularly england, and particularly central northern scotland central and northern scotland dunng central and northern scotland during the afternoon. but much of northern ireland, wales, southwest england . good chance southwest england. good chance of a dry tomorrow. a bit of a dry day tomorrow. a bit more lighter winds for more sunshine, lighter winds for feeling a little bit warmer as well . many the day well. many will start the day dry on friday. but look at this, a of wet windy weather a mass of wet and windy weather swinging from the south—west. swinging up from the south—west. thatis swinging up from the south—west. that is going to be unseasonably

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gb news, the unnamed bbc presenter now facing four separate sets of allegations . allegations. >> one high profile colleague calls for them to come forward. we'll have the latest live from new broadcasting house. >> former prime minister liz truss speaks to gb news about her growth commission on the day the bank of england warns nearly a million households face a £500 rise in repayments by the end of 2026. but is it all her fault ? 2026. but is it all her fault? the gb news don't kill cash

petition passes 200,000 signatures will be talking to the boss of the post office about why the pound in the pocket still matters to him . pocket still matters to him. >> plus , could water be facing? >> plus, could water be facing? >> plus, could water be facing? >> could water could london even be facing water rationing? i'll get right in a minute. drink of that. i need something stronger than water. we'll be joined by a pressure group who is warning that a drying up of chalk streams could see the capital having turn off the taps . having to turn off the taps. first, though, your very latest headunes first, though, your very latest headlines with tatiana . pip. headlines with tatiana. pip. >> thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. several high profile figures are calling on the unnamed bbc presenter at the centre of several allegations to

come forward for the good of his colleagues at the corporation . a colleagues at the corporation. a 23 year old claims the presenter broke covid lockdown rules to meet them during the pandemic. they told the sun that the star travelled across london to another country to meet them at their flat in february 2021. the presenters already facing allegations of paying another person for sexually explicit images and sending threatening messages to a young person in their early 20s. messages to a young person in their early 20s . ukraine's their early 20s. ukraine's president , zelenskyy says he's president, zelenskyy says he's grateful to rishi sunak for the uk's support in his country's nato ambitions , as he made the nato ambitions, as he made the comments at the nato summit just a day after the nato ukraine council confirmed his country will become a member of the alliance , all members of the g7 alliance, all members of the g7 are set to sign a long term security arrangement with ukraine later that rishi sunak says has the potential to return peace to europe. nato's secretary general, jens stoltenberg , confirmed it's stoltenberg, confirmed it's a huge step for ukraine. uk rain

is now closer to nato than ever before . before. >> allies reaffirm that ukraine will become a member of the alliance and agreed to remove the requirement for a membership action plan . action plan. >> this will change ukraine's membership path from a two step process to a one step process . process to a one step process. >> the bank of england are warning nearly a million mortgage holders in the uk will see their monthly repayments jump see their monthly repayments jump by see their monthly repayments jump by £500 or more by the end of 2026. mortgage rates have now hit their highest level in 15 years, surpassing figures seen in the aftermath of last year's mini—budget. the central bank says the uk's eight major banks are sturdy enough to handle a fresh economic crisis. it also said that the country has so far been resilient to rapidly rising interest rates. but some households and firms may struggle with repayments on

loans . struggle with repayments on loans. labour's struggle with repayments on loans . labour's deputy leader loans. labour's deputy leader says the conservative party crashed the economy. standing in for rishi sunak at pmqs this afternoon, oliver dowden said the government has taken many measures to provide support to those struggling. but angela rayner accused the deputy prime minister of being completely oblivious to the struggles of working people . now liz truss working people. now liz truss says improving the uk's economic growth will help alleviate the cost of living crisis by putting more money into people's pockets . speaking exclusively to gb news as she launched her growth commission , the former prime commission, the former prime minister avoided taking responsibility for current economic conditions. what this is about is about looking at the long term. >> we know that we've had low growth here in the united kingdom and right across the western for world decades. so what i'm interested in is how do we change that? how do we make our situation better ? our situation better? >> teachers in england have

voted in favour of strike action in an ongoing dispute over pay. nearly nine out of ten teacher members of the union who voted in the ballot backed the walkouts. the union, which passed the 50% ballot threshold , says it plans to stage continuous industrial action starting in september for strike dates in the autumn term will also be considered and co—ordinated with other unions where possible . lawyers for the where possible. lawyers for the russian billionaire roman abramovich say that sanctions imposed on him by the european union are baseless. appearing at the european court of justice, lawyers for abramovich argued that the charges against him were imposed simply because he's a famous russian businessman . a famous russian businessman. the former owner of chelsea football club was sanctioned by both the eu and the uk due to his close ties with the russian president . at and finally, president. at and finally, parades are taking place across northern ireland as protestant loyal orders celebrate the 12th

of july . the main celebrations of july. the main celebrations are taking place at 18 venues, including belfast as well as bangor co down and ballymena. thousands of orange order members, accompanied by 600 marching bands, are taking part in the festivities to mark the 333rd anniversary of the battle of the boyne. the orange order says an estimated half a million people are expected to take part in the celebrations. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to markham . markham. pip >> i'm welcome back to the live desk.look >> i'm welcome back to the live desk. look at the damage done. those are the words of radio host jeremy vine on the unnamed bbc presenter at the heart of the scandal. with the number of allegations now rising to four. >> the presenter suspended

>> the presenter was suspended over the weekend while the met police investigate whether a criminal offence has been committed. >> well, in the past few minutes we're being told that the chief executive of channel 4, alex martin, has also joined the debate at the annual report for channel 4 being given to journalists. she said that broadcasters need to ensure procedures are in place that would quickly flag up issues in terms of adding that the name of the presenter in question and a duty of care, she replied . it duty of care, she replied. it doesn't look easy, does it? answering questions from reporters as well, our home and security editor mark white can bnng security editor mark white can bring us the very latest from broadcasting house. >> we've heard a lot, haven't we? mark today from jeremy vine, who thinks the unnamed presenter should name himself it strikes some as a little bit odd this that he's encouraging a fellow presenter to do this . presenter to do this. >> sorry, i missed that last bit. i'm saying it strikes some people as a little bit odd that

jeremy vine is encouraging a fellow presenter , daughter of fellow presenter, daughter of his to name himself. >> if . >> if. >> if. >> well , i'm >> if. >> well, i'm not sure how odd it is . is. >> there are a number of people here at the bbc. i think , who here at the bbc. i think, who would back that particular stance that jeremy vine has taken with regard to the continuing allegations that are battering the bbc at present. the damage that is being done to the corporate mission because of these continued allegations and these continued allegations and the strange limbo that we're in because the corporation itself cannot investigate the allegations while the metropolitan police is scoping out the possibility of launching a criminal investigation into the first of those allegations that were splashed by the sun newspaper on on friday. so given all that and given the drip, drip, drip of allegations that

keep coming in and are damaging, as i say , the corporation, as i say, the corporation, that's why jeremy vine has taken the stance that he had. he tweeted, first of all, that he was off the coming around to the belief that this presenter should perhaps come forward today. should perhaps come forward today . he absolutely was today. he absolutely was unequivocal while saying that he believes that his colleague should indeed do that. this is what he said in the channel five programme that he also presents in the morning. >> it's his decision, but he needs to come forward now. >> i think i know his survival instinct has kicked in and i know he saw what happened to phillip schofield, but my god, look at the damage to the bbc. >> look at the damage to his friends, to those falsely accused . and the longer he accused. and the longer he leaves it, the worse it will be for him. well mark, as you say, that was jeremy vine on channel five.

>> channel 4. now we've got the chief executive of saying broadcasters need to ensure procedures in place in terms of the whole issue about naming a person , saying it doesn't look person, saying it doesn't look easy, does it? victoria atkins, a government minister. lessons need to be learned by the bbc now. do we know where we are with the corporation? clearly they've actually suspended the investigation options as such until the met police come back with more. but are they looking at their structure as such in result of all this ? result of all this? >> yes. so the investigation on that should be taking place by the bbc into the various allegations that have come to light has been halted at the request of the metropolitan police while they scope out the original investigation or original investigation or original allegations that were made and splashed out in the sun on friday of last week . what is on friday of last week. what is still happening at the bbc is a matter of urgency . kwasi is matter of urgency. kwasi is a look again at the procedures for

deaung look again at the procedures for dealing with complaints and flagging up those very serious complaints. because what we had mark, was of course this original complaint made by the parents of a young person back on the 18th of may that got to the corporate investigations team on the 19th of may, who then emailed this family member to say just how seriously the bbc take such allegations runs and was after some more information than they claim the bbc that they didn't get a response to that yet they waited two and a half weeks before are then attempting a telephone call to the complainant that telephone call, we're told by the bbc, didn't connect, but then there was no subsequent phone calls right up until the point the 6th of july that the sun newspaper contacted the bbc to say that they had this story , that they would be splashing with the very next day. only at that point it was the presenter

informed about the allegations that had been made and it seems any real urgency about what the bbc was doing with regard to those allegations was kicked in at that point. so yes, very serious questions for the bbc on the procedures of dealing with complaints which they are looking at at that element. but certainly the other allegations just can't be investigated because the police have asked them to . not them to. not >> yeah, and given all that, you were outside new broadcasting house for us yesterday and today, what have you picked up from from the bbc staffers about morale? because, of course, we had assertion earlier that had the assertion earlier that the bbc was on its knees from jeremy vine yeah, i mean , you jeremy vine yeah, i mean, you know, it can be a bit of an old cliche that morale is rock bottom, that kind of thing. >> i'm not sure that's the case, but certainly i think there is a great deal anger at the way great deal of anger at the way in which the bbc is being continually battered by these allegations and the limbo that they find themselves in, in the

sense that they can't really do anything about it while the met is still considering whether to launch this criminal investiga allegation. they are coming even from the bbc's own news division, these allegations, because of course, they operate independently of the management structure . and just like us and structure. and just like us and every other news outlet, they're out there chasing this story. so it's a very strange position that those within this building find themselves in and there is a mixture of people who are very angry at the way that the bbc is being battered. people that do have an anger towards the presenter, although of course the allegations have never been tested in any way because as i say, we're in this strange limbo . yeah. >> mark, thank you very much indeed for updating us there outside the bbc with the latest i >> -- >> how lam em >> how much cash have you got in your pocket today? well, don't kill cash. our gb news campaign for cash to remain legal tender is still gaining momentum ,

is still gaining momentum, reaching almost 210,000 signatures in just over a week. britain is fast becoming cashless as powerful firms push to save cash handling costs and monitor what we spend . monitor what we spend. >> well, let's remind you , you >> well, let's remind you, you can sign the petition at gb news .com/ cash or just slash the qr code. you can see on screen. and that will take you to the petition. but let's speak now to martin kersley, who's banking director at the post office. also launching or partaking in this campaign because i think probably a lot of villagers and townspeople will be very welcome for the post office providing , for the post office providing, of course, cash facilities because a lot of the holes in the wall have disappeared from their communities. >> that's absolutely true, mark, and thank you for having me on the show. delighted to be to here support your campaign . it here support your campaign. it absolutely augments what we've been saying for a couple of years, that without bank branches increasingly in those

rural areas and areas of the country , which perhaps are more country, which perhaps are more urban, deprived with some 5500 bank branch closures since 2015, 500 more this year and many more to come. quite often, post office is the last counter in town where the last face to face transaction that can be done in any village and increasingly small businesses are turning to the post office to bring us their cash to bank it safely and securely into into their bank account . account. >> how much cash does the post office handle and has have you seen a drop in that in recent years on the contrary, we've actually seen it grow significant over the past few years when covid struck. >> i think we and many in the industry thought that cash would start to go down and would probably not recover . so we've probably not recover. so we've been proved wrong . and i think been proved wrong. and i think two reasons for that. the first is those bank branch closures , is those bank branch closures, which means more people come to the post office. so we've seen

the post office. so we've seen the cash in our network grow significantly around about £35 billion every month is transacted through a post office. and i think the second main cause is the cost of living crisis. more and more increasingly, families vulnerable, perhaps more rural citizens who can't get a reliable wi—fi signal perhaps are returning to cash, especially because once it's spent, it's spent. it's a very, very controllable budgeting tool . and in hard pressed times . . and in hard pressed times. that's why we're seeing a significant growth in both cash withdrawals as well as, say, those cash deposits back in again. >> yeah. and is there evidence, too, of the demographic being affected? one assumes perhaps it is the older generation that's more comfortable with dealing with cash and the very important process, i guess, of actually going into a counter and having a transact with a human individual and maybe that social support that is there as well . support that is there as well. >> i think that is hugely important . >> i think that is hugely important. mark

>> i think that is hugely important . mark absolutely. important. mark absolutely. i think that face to face element, especially if you're a small business and you've you've worked hard to earn your several thousand pounds each week, you probably don't want to go and deposit into machine. deposit it into a machine. increasingly that may become available to available over the years to come. right now, there come. but for right now, there is reassuring is something very reassuring about somebody , about giving it to somebody, looking at the whites of their eyes, conversation looking at the whites of their eyes, how conversation looking at the whites of their eyes, how your:onversation looking at the whites of their eyes, how your business on looking at the whites of their eyes, how your business is about how your business is going. and talking to going. this week and talking to a retailer and then a fellow retailer and then walking out with a receipt knowing that your money is safe i >> -- >> but of course , in many >> but of course, in many villages, they don't actually have a post office. now do they? martin which for many people is just such a such a crying shame and such a loss . and such a loss. >> i think it's worth pointing out that since 2009, our network has been largely stable. we operate about 11,500 branches across the country , pretty much across the country, pretty much in any village, any small provincial town, and in in major towns, locations there is a post office and we do have a churn every year. there's no doubt we are under pressure like never

before commercially, as well as being able to support our postmasters make a viable postmasters and make a viable living but every one of myself living. but every one of myself and colleagues were working and my colleagues were working hard those postmasters hard to make those postmasters be stay open on the high be able to stay open on the high street. and with that stability of are actually of the network, we are actually the only network that continues to open new branches whenever we can. if we are forced to can. so if we are forced to close on, we look for a new operator, a new partner who's prepared us on in that town. >> and where are you on this debate about legal tender? because we'd always assumed that , you know, your £5 note, your £10 note, that's legal tender. it has to be accepted. and yet people are saying, you know, when that cash is rejected at another sort of circumstance , another sort of circumstance, it's they're really left high and dry . and dry. >> i think there's two different debates there. mark the definition of legal tender, you're right, can sometimes be blurred into a sort of an obugafion blurred into a sort of an obligation that people must accept it isn't and that's accept it. it isn't and that's not the case. but so legal tender just means it's a legal tenderjust means it's a legal representation of the money that

thatis representation of the money that that is that is at the bank. right. so could we accepted if they wish to do so. absolutely. and we encourage all of our postmasters, all of our post offices that that every bit of tender that is in the country we will take so that's coins as well as as well as notes. >> and martin do you still carry cash around with you? i won't ask how much cash you've got on you currently. that might be a little bit cheeky, but have you got some in pocket? got some cash in your pocket? i've always some cash and i've always got some cash and i've always got some cash and i've taken out from i've always taken it out from the post office. that is very thatis the post office. that is very that is very good to know. >> perhaps even if you're >> and perhaps even if you're heading abroad, of course, as well, not forget, you well, let's not forget, you know, taking cash abroad sometimes can a bit cheaper sometimes can be a bit cheaper than your card with than using your your card with all you get hit all the charges that you get hit for well. for as well. >> well, give you give you a final one of our final plug for one of our products, travel money card products, the travel money card is post is available in every post office. it's online rechargeable. should you be abroad of cash that rechargeable. should you be abrcput of cash that rechargeable. should you be abrcput onto of cash that rechargeable. should you be abrcput onto it of cash that rechargeable. should you be abrcput onto it and of cash that rechargeable. should you be abrcput onto it and it cash that rechargeable. should you be abrcput onto it and it offersthat rechargeable. should you be abrcput onto it and it offers not you put onto it and it offers no charges when you're abroad. so it's a very travel it's a very useful travel accompaniment. well thank you very indeed joining us very much indeed forjoining us here news.

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radio. >> welcome back to the live desk. now, ukraine's president zelenskyy is perhaps a little bit more cheerful today after being told by nato chief jens stoltenberg that ukraine is closer than ever to nato membership and that moscow does not get to decide who joins the alliance . alliance. >> but interesting that there's an equally defiant message from our defence secretary, ben wallace, who appears to suggest that president zelenskyy needs to be mindful about keeping doubting politicians in the us on side following what might

have been seen as critical remarks about nato membership. mr wallace saying some allies providing defensive aid to kyiv want to see grab attitude, he said. well, let's speak now to people's deputy in ukraine, andriy osadchuk , who can join us andriy osadchuk, who can join us once more. you very much once more. thank you very much indeed for your time. and i know also that your defence minister was also saying that the so—called israeli style guarantees that have been offered , they want to see more offered, they want to see more detail. so there's a little bit of sensitivity about this . of sensitivity about this. >> good afternoon . thank you for >> good afternoon. thank you for having me here. yes the topic is pretty sensitive . yes, for the pretty sensitive. yes, for the last months before the nato summit, ukraine raised the bar in our international agenda . and in our international agenda. and we believe that we have the right to raise the bar. one simple reason that we are doing for the last 16 months the job which supposed to be done by nato, that in fact the job for which nato was created in late 40s of the 20th century. but we

also are absolutely pragmatic being understand that no one in the west is ready to die for us or even ready to be injured for us. so that's why we focussed on one simple thing that first, we definitely need to win the war and for that we really need the resources for that . we need the resources for that. we need the nato allies to pay for this . and nato allies to pay for this. and the second option is definitely we need to create such a architecture of security and safety, which will not allow this nightmare to be repeated in future. and definitely there is no alternative for the moment to nato for such infrastructure , nato for such infrastructure, for such architecture of security. yes we probably expect a little bit more from this summit in vilnius and yes, if to be very honest with you , if to be very honest with you, if to

put aside all details which are important, but the summit was still about a fair a fair of russia, but this fair was wrapped in intelligence, in good manners , as in pragmatism . and manners, as in pragmatism. and yes , we expect that all yes, we expect that all agreements which zelenskyy and our team achieved today will help to speed up the end of this nightmare air in ukraine. but at the same time, we all here understand that none of the safety guarantees can be accepted by ukraine in exchange of nato membership . there is no of nato membership. there is no alternative now there for us and we believe for nato , for ukraine we believe for nato, for ukraine to be part of the nato family if we are really worried about long term peace and security in european continent. >> do you accept that it would be folly for ukraine to join nato while the war is still

ongoing ? ongoing? >> that's one of the big achievements of this nato, some wmmw achievements of this nato, some summit. and if you look carefully at the wording of communique, i do apologise . communique, i do apologise. >> i'm just going to interrupt you because president biden is literally speaking in vilnius at the moment. i'm sure you'll want to hear what he's got to say as well. let's cross to lithuania for up for you now for just coming up for you now of stability in the region and deter against any and all threats . threats. >> i want to thank my fellow g7 leaders and president zelenskyy for their work to make this happen. for their work to make this happen . i think it's a powerful happen. i think it's a powerful statement and a powerful statement and a powerful statement of our commitment to ukraine as it defends its freedom today and as it rebuilds the future. and we're going to be there as long as that takes. and again, i thank all my colleagues for their support for this . this. >> thank you very much, mr

president. president biden , president. president biden, prime minister kishida . prime minister kishida. chancellor let's see. see you , chancellor let's see. see you, chancellor let's see. see you, chancellor schultz. prime minister sunak president macron. prime minister trudeau. prime minister maloney. president michel. president von der leyen . great honour to be here. the outcome of the nato summit in vilnius is very much needed and meaningful success for ukraine, and i'm grateful to all leaders in nato countries for very practical . and presented practical. and presented support. consider the case of our relations support for ukraine today. there are security guarantees for ukraine on the way to nato , an important on the way to nato, an important package of secured guarantees. today we are coordinating with the g7 countries. the framework for security guarantees that

shall be further extended through arrangements with our key partners. but lateral and multilateral agreements and ukraine delegation is bringing home significant security victory for the ukraine, for our country, for our people , for our country, for our people, for our children. it opens for us absolutely new security opportunities . and i thank opportunities. and i thank everyone who made it possible . everyone who made it possible. thank you, dear colleagues . thank you, dear colleagues. thanks you. thanks lithuanian and jens stoltenberg . thank you and jens stoltenberg. thank you very much. slava ukraine. this concludes the speaking program . concludes the speaking program. >> please remain seated for the family photo show . significant family photo show. significant that the family photo may well include . include. >> president zelenskyy will wait and see, but certainly thanks. there from president zelenskyy and an indication from president

biden that this will be taking as long as it takes. so clearly as long as it takes. so clearly a commitment, even though we've still not got this a full nato membership. let's return to andrew osadchuk, who was just speaking to us before that. again, apologies for interrupting, but clearly you wanted to hear from your own president and president biden as well. think an indication well. i think an indication there as to the i think they call it the pathway or the way they want to go with this. you know, commitments perhaps have been made behind the scenes. >> look, i'm happy that i'm talking with the same tone of voice as president biden and president zelenskyy as i said in the very beginning in our interview, that our target is to win the war. nato membership is just a tool . but just with even just a tool. but just with even judicial signing of any documents, it will not mean that it will help us to win the war immediately. we need the weapons . we need ammunition. we need that all that in huge quantities

, because daily we spend huge resources and if i understood correctly, biden and zelenskyy today in ukraine reached an agreement with the g7 on as they call it, security guarantees . call it, security guarantees. but talking in a simple language, we will receive we receive insurance on providing military support as long as it will be needed, as long as it will be needed, as long as it will take. the only thing i don't really like this wording created by biden more than a year ago because i want the united states and our allies to stay with ukraine, not as long as it takes, but as long as it takes to win the war by ukraine. but i think all our members are part recipients of this meeting . in fact, they were talking about joining joint rebuild part of ukraine, meaning that we are talking about future of ukraine, which is possible only after the victory of ukraine, meaning that

i accept all that that everyone is agree that the only way for us to forward this process is ukrainian victory and the west will do all possible to reach that. and how pleased were you, andre? >> we just seeing pictures now, actually of rishi sunak, the british prime minister for a bit of a photo call of all the member countries lining up after making this declaration. >> i will tell you that zelenskyy is next to president biden for that family photo . how biden for that family photo. how significant is that . andre, can significant is that. andre, can you hear . us significant is that. andre, can you hear. us well, we'll just bnng you hear. us well, we'll just bring andre in, but that is a significant moment there that president zelenskyy seen next to president zelenskyy seen next to president biden at the what they call the family photo. so even though technically not a member of nato , certainly he's been of nato, certainly he's been brought in as well . perhaps a brought in as well. perhaps a favourite cousin shall we say.

andrew osadchuk can join us once more. andre, we're just saying that the family photo has just been taken with president zelenskyy standing next to president biden . president biden. >> very important. it's simply confirms that ukraine de facto, the member of nato in fact, ukrainian army for the moment probably is the most trained and most advanced army. even comparing to united states army, because we have the highest level of combat experience. and i'm sure that it is big interest and it will be a big value for the nato when ukraine will join the nato when ukraine will join the nato when ukraine will join the nato club, because we will be an example for all nato countries, for all nato military, how to fight , how to military, how to fight, how to protect yourself. we will have absolutely exclusive experience, which we will be happy to share with everyone with nato. for one simple reason not to repeat this experience in future by any

other nato armies and nato countries. so that's why zelenskyy was standing in very right place , in very right right place, in very right company. >> yeah . and how do you think >> yeah. and how do you think putin will be reacting when he sees those pictures , when he sees those pictures, when he sees those pictures, when he sees that line up and he sees president zelenskyy start heading next to the american president? i mean, what a message is that sending to him ? message is that sending to him? uh, i think we shall not be very much worried about his thoughts for the last 16 months, russian federation was putting a lot of , as they said, red line. >> but all this red lines was crossed as by ukraine, as by our allies. dozens of times. putin policy fully collapsed, fully collapsed. he is extremely bad strategist. he got absolutely opposite results for his country and for his political career. so, yes, they'll be very disappointed. yes, they will

continue to threat the west. they will continue to attack ukraine. nothing new. we shall not look at kremlin at all. we shall do our job and we shall shall do ourjob and we shall think only about one thing that duration of this war is directly unked duration of this war is directly linked to the readiness and bravery of the west to fight together with ukraine. >> and on that note that i know zelenskyy has said that progress is slow and you can understand why. but what is your understanding of how the counter offensive is going and what it's achieving on the ground at the moment , the counter offensive is moment, the counter offensive is possible only if we have at least parity with russian federation on troops and ammunition . ammunition. >> unfortunately, now it's not the secret and we can speak openly about that. that last yearit openly about that. that last year it was huge delays with the supply of ammunition and military equipment to ukraine. these delays was paid by thousands and being killed . now thousands and being killed. now the situation is a little bit

better, but still , it's not the better, but still, it's not the secret that for the last 40 years, none of nato military campaign was conducted without strong air force or without long—range missile. that's still a lot of equipment is not in place in ukraine. so that's why it's very unfair to demand huge progress from ukraine and military at the same time. not providing ukraine with everything needed. i hope that this nato summit will put a final point in this discussion. and ukraine will finally receive everything which will give us a chance to finish this war. >> i'm sure those conversations were held behind the scenes. there in vilnius. but andrea ozturk, thank you very much for joining us and witnessing, of course, those historic scenes. your president actually standing next to joe biden there in vilnius . thank you very much vilnius. thank you very much indeed for your time. >> still to come on gb news news, we are at the high court where a lincolnshire council is

trying to stop the government sending asylum seekers the sending asylum seekers to the former base of the dambusters. we'll bring you the latest very shortly

radio. >> welcome back to the live desk west lindsey council in lincolnshire has returned to the high court today in an ongoing effort to prevent 2000 asylum seekers from being housed at scampton, known for previously being the home of the dambusters i >> -- >> well, the hearing to determine whether the case can proceed to a full judicial review, which may halt the plans. catherine forsterjoins us from outside the high court. and it's a sort of triple whammy. i guess, catherine, a three inaya evidence in one. and this hearing before there's a heanng this hearing before there's a hearing for the injunction, there's a long way to go in this process yet . process yet. >> yes, absolutely. and as we've

seen again and again , with all seen again and again, with all things connected to migrants, there are always multiple legal battles. so this triple hearing, as you say, against migrant being allowed to be placed in two former raf bases in wethersfield in essex and in scampton in lincolnshire are just to get permission in to have a judicial review, which would be a further legal wrangling which might or might not. then block these people arriving. but it was announced today by the kc leading the first of these appeals is for the base in wethersfield in essex. that in fact some migrants had already arrived on site. now, reporters down there haven't seen anybody as yet, but certainly early they are arriving imminently. if they're not all ready there. and that

site particularly could house up to 1.7 thousand male migrants. acas. and in in raf scampton in lincolnshire . so of course, the lincolnshire. so of course, the home of the dambusters during the war and that site could potentially house 2000. now the local authorities are absolutely up in arms. they feel that the government are playing fast and loose with them. they say they haven't been properly consulted. they say that the planning laws that are being used, these temporary be permanent development rights are not appropriate because they're only supposed to be for short periods of time. the government are not clarifying how long they might use these bases for, and real concerns about the pressure on local services, on doctors , on local services, on doctors, on hospitals, on schools . also hospitals, on schools. also these are very rural environments and having large numbers of male migrants dropped

into these rural communities. understandably makes people uneasy. but this is the problem, isn't it? wherever the government wants to put migrants, the locals do not want them there. and meanwhile , we're them there. and meanwhile, we're spending £6 million a day on hotel bills . and as we found out hotel bills. and as we found out yesterday , half £1 million a day yesterday, half £1 million a day for hotel rooms that aren't even occupied and that the government just needs to have in case there's a sudden huge rise in numbers crossing the channel this is a recurring theme, though, isn't it, catherine, about lack of consultation? i mean , we hear the same thing mean, we hear the same thing about the barge that's moving any time now into portland. and the problem is, is that people think , you know, this is so think, you know, this is so unfair because the government could have tackled this issue a long time ago and they've just made such little progress . it's made such little progress. it's yes, indeed. and of course, rishi sunak made it one of his

five pledges, didn't he, at the beginning of the year, stop the boats. and only a couple of months ago he was saying, look, my plan is working. the numbers are down 20. but we've seen are down 20. but as we've seen now judged against where we were last year, the numbers are pretty much the same coming across the channel and the plans to rwanda, well, nobody is yet to rwanda, well, nobody is yet to get on a plane. are they? and of course, there's a battle going on now in parliament. the house of lords making numerous amendment cuts to the government's illegal migration bill. there were four hours of voting on that last night. the government did make some concessions. it's going back to the lords now, but basically whatever the government tries to do to combat this problem, they seem to just get mired in controversy in legal battles and meanwhile stopping the boat seems to be a very, very long way off. catherine forster outside the high court. thanks very much for that update . now,

very much for that update. now, what could be a bad news for us again because uk homeowners could face monthly mortgage payment hikes of around £500. i know not what any of us want to hear that's come from the bank of england in their latest financial stability report. well it also comes as liz truss us remember her launched something called the growth commission . called the growth commission. >> today. it's a new project hoping to revive her pro growth agenda along with kwasi kwarteng. remember when he was chancellor economics and business editor was at that launch? in fact, he had a central role. so here's liam with on the money . not me, guv. with on the money. not me, guv. >> what was your central role that you tell us more so i know a lot of the economists on the growth commission, there are about a dozen economists from around the world brits, americans , us, japanese americans, us, japanese economists, indian economists , economists, indian economists, latin economists and latin american economists and they asked me just to chair their debate as they launched their debate as they launched their growth commission

report. >> look, we'll come back to the bank of england in a minute, but the politics of what's going on here is liz truss is basically trying to rally the troops, not because she wants to become tory leader or prime minister again. i think she realises that ship has but she has sailed, but because she wants some representation for the many, many conservative mps and many, many voters who think that a tax burden at a 70 year high end , this freezing of tax high end, this freezing of tax thresholds and fiscal drag, lots of people paying tax at the higher rate isn't necessarily what people want, she wants to make sure that an agenda is kept going where we have people arguing that actually if we lower tax, we can get more growth going, grow the pie in order so there's more money for pubuc order so there's more money for public services . it's a it's a public services. it's a it's a set of views that historically stand up but that have gone out of fashion in recent years. yeah. >> and of course, the big problem is that that may be something that a government wants to do, but we've got the

bank of england putting the brakes on the economy. they don't growth at the don't want the growth at the moment because inflation moment because of the inflation issue. wonders, even if issue. so one wonders, even if she able to regain some kind she was able to regain some kind of traction, the bank of political traction, the bank of political traction, the bank of england is there saying, no, we've got stop this happening we've got to stop this happening because inflation is sticky, is this phrase they keep using. >> know the bank of >> you know what the bank of england a long england has been a long way behind curve for quite behind the curve for quite a long time. >> they were slow to see >> they were really slow to see inflation coming. some of us saw inflation coming. some of us saw inflation coming. some of us saw inflation coming and inflation coming months and months did . they months before they did. they were slow to start were really slow to start raising i raising interest rates. and i would argue now , pip, that would argue now, pip, that they're slow to stop raising they're too slow to stop raising interest rates because i would say that inflation is actually going to come down quite soon. so while the bank of england is right on current trajectories, as people come off lower two and five year fixed rate deals and suddenly they're exposed to much higher market interest rates, you know, the average mortgage rate now about 6.5% as rate is now about 6.5% as opposed to two and a half, 3% a year incredible so then year ago. incredible so then more people will be paying more on their mortgage. but i don't

think the numbers are going to turn bad as the turn out quite as bad as the bank england warning in bank of england is warning in that financial stability that latest financial stability report i was also reading, report that i was also reading, some analysts the some analysts saying that the government was suggesting going on to an interest only mortgage, you could end up paying less a month. >> but some analysts are now saying, we've almost reached saying, no, we've almost reached a point and it's not a tipping point and it's not really going help you going really going to help you going on interest mortgage. on to an interest only mortgage. >> where you fix that >> it depends where you fix that interest if you fix interest only rate. if you fix now, would say your fixing now, i would say your fixing near interest rates. near the peak of interest rates. i if you can stand it, i i would if you can stand it, i would wait until interest rates are unequivocally, definitely coming down. but look, going back to liz truss, what i do think she's kind of earned the right to be heard again because government borrowing costs are now higher than they were when she did her mini—budget with kwasi kwarteng, blamed kwasi kwarteng, which was blamed for quotes trashing the economy. actually the government is in a worse state now. the government actually the government is in a w(payingte now. the government actually the government is in a w(paying morev. the government actually the government is in a w(paying more forhe government actually the government is in a w(paying more forhe borrowing|t i >> -- >> is there a thinking that her mini—budget long would mini—budget then long term would work ? work? >> i think there's thinking among a lot of economy insists

she get much you know the she won't get much you know the labor party won't agree and quite a lot of the tories own backbenchers won't agree . but i backbenchers won't agree. but i think there's thinking of quite a lot of people, quite a lot of economists people economists and people in financial least financial markets that at least she was asking the right questions. was trying questions. she was trying to free the supply of the free up the supply side of the economy. she was trying to get efficiency rac she trying to efficiency rac she was trying to you get her around you know, get her arms around government spending rather than just borrowing just spending and borrowing more. made all these more. and she made all these points when i asked her earlier exclusive lviv for gb news why we need this growth commission . we need this growth commission. in well, what we've seen for decades is, is low economic growth and what that means is people are worse off than they need to be. >> today's report shows that they. >> today's report shows that they . are £10,000. they. are £10,000. >> oh, cut us short . but let's >> oh, cut us short. but let's just reflect more . she's just reflect more. she's sticking to that script , but sticking to that script, but let's reflect that within the past day or two. jeremy hunt, the current chancellor, said no tax cuts at the moment. we've

still got to bear down on inflation. so you've got, i think, hold your nerve is the phrase the government keeps using, of course. >> and this is why what she's doing is politically so potent. she was very careful all to not be up on stage at that growth commission launch. she sat in the the in crowd . and she the in the in the crowd. and she didn't say anything. she didn't raise last question raise her hands. last question or anything that. only or anything like that. she only spoke me afterwards. she spoke to me afterwards. she didn't give a general interview because knows this is because she knows this is particularly politically really, really punchy. what she's doing, not only as you say, mark, because the bank of england doesn't want to hear about growth at the moment. it just wants to hear about bearing down on inflation. but, you know, economics changes quickly. i would say in the coming weeks, we could soon be looking at inflation falling and people once about once again talking about interest maybe going up interest rates maybe going up once more. but not 2 or 3 times more from 5% where they currently are at the bank of england all the way up to 6.5. i don't see that. i think there will be another rise to

will be another rate rise to five a quarter or five and five and a quarter or five and a half on the 3rd of august. but i think pretty soon the numbers are going to start that are going to start showing that inflation quite inflation is falling quite sharply. the whole sharply. and then the whole economic could start to shift. >> okay. and let's talk about that when we talk about tax cuts, i mean, we assuming, you know, be a lot more know, it could be a lot more nuanced, not just, you know, a couple pence in the pound couple of pence in the pound off your your marginal rate, but the tax allowances, the tax bands that you've talked about, which has been hitting a lot of middle earners who suddenly become higher tax rate earners. so it's hitting particular parts of the population. >> exactly. we call it fiscal drag. when you're dragged into higher tax brackets , as wages higher tax brackets, as wages and prices go up, if the tax bracket stays where it is, for instance, 12 and one half grand below that, you don't income below that, you don't pay income tax. know , 50 odd grand tax. you know, 50 odd grand above that , you pay, you know, above that, you pay, you know, 40% rather than 20. the basic rate of income tax as those tax bands are frozen . and jeremy bands are frozen. and jeremy hunt and rishi sunak between them have frozen them until

2028. >> talking of rishi sunak , we're >> talking of rishi sunak, we're just going to break away because let's take you live to vilnius. the prime minister talking. let's take you live to vilnius. thewe me minister talking. let's take you live to vilnius. thewe arrived ister talking. let's take you live to vilnius. thewe arrived here talking. let's take you live to vilnius. thewe arrived here facedg. let's take you live to vilnius. thewe arrived here faced with >> we arrived here faced with a more volatile and dangerous world, a mechanised war in europe on a scale not seen since 1945, and increasing aggression from authoritarian states challenging our security in europe and beyond. >> but as we leave vilnius, we are more confident and more unhed are more confident and more united than ever. >> and let me set out three reasons why this is the case. >> first, we've acted decisively to strengthen this alliance, agreeing the most fundamental transformation to nato's readiness since the cold war. our comprehensive war fighting plans to defend the uk and its allies scaled up defence production to boost our stockpiles, which will benefit british industry and increase defence spending with our all allies now committed to hitting the 2% target. and we did something here in vilnius that

not long ago seemed impossible. we welcomed finland to the table as a nato member and very soon we'll be doing the same with sweden. we are stronger with them by our side and in time we will be stronger with ukraine as a nato ally to and this is my second point. it is now over 500 days since russia's invasion for 500 days of barbarity of innocent people being murdered innocent people being murdered in their homes , of children in their homes, of children being killed or abducted and used as human shields . i want to used as human shields. i want to pay used as human shields. i want to pay tribute to the ukrainian people and to their incredible bravery and resilience. they are still standing strong and defiant , and the defiant, and the counter—offensive is making progress in the last few weeks, they've taken back more ground than russia has taken in the last year and we are standing with them and allies are doubung with them and allies are doubling down in their support at the munich security

conference in february, i called for long term security arrangements to protect ukraine, break the cycle of russian violence and ultimately help end this war. and today we have delivered together with our g7 partners, we have agreed to provide the long term bilateral security commitments that ukraine needs. these commitments mark a new high point in international support for ukraine. and i want to be clear, they are not a substitute for nato membership . the summit nato membership. the summit communique echoes the uk's long held position that ukraine's future is in nato. and we've taken a big step this week to bringing ukraine into the alliance together , we've alliance together, we've shortened their path to membership , shortened their path to membership, removing the shortened their path to membership , removing the need membership, removing the need for a membership action plan and holding the first meeting of the nato ukraine council with president zelenskyy sitting at the table by our side as an equal. the table by our side as an equal . and finally, i'd like to

equal. and finally, i'd like to say a word about the uk's role here. i was struck once again this week by just how valued our contribution is . the british contribution is. the british people should know that and they should be proud . we are the should be proud. we are the leading european contributor to nato . we were one of the first nato. we were one of the first to hit the 2% target and now we're moving towards 2.5. we spend more than 20 other nato countries combined, but it's about much more than that. it's about much more than that. it's about our incredible armed forces across land, air and sea . we're one of the only .we're one of the only countries that contributes to every nato mission with raf jets patrolling the eastern flank, troops on the ground in estonia and poland. as part of nato's enhanced forward presence , us enhanced forward presence, us and the royal navy , including and the royal navy, including our two aircraft carriers , our two aircraft carriers, providing around a quarter of nato's maritime capability . we. nato's maritime capability. we. it's about our deep partnerships with japan and italy. we're

producing a sixth generation fighter through our global combat air program . um, and with combat air program. um, and with aukus, we're working with australia and the us to build some of the most advanced nuclear powered submarines the world has ever known. and it's about leadership. we've led the way on ukraine moves first on tanks and long—range missiles, training their troops for the counter offensive . and just counter offensive. and just today i've announced we're providing more ammunition, 70 more combat vehicles as well as a new rehabilitation centre for injured ukrainian veterans . injured ukrainian veterans. we're moving forward with the combat air coalition and the ukraine in the uk starts training ukrainian pilots next month and we're using our leadership and technology to keep nato at the cutting edge by hosting the european headquarters of the defence innovation accelerator in the uk and holding the first global summit on al safety later this year. summit on al safety later this year . the summit on al safety later this year. the united kingdom has been there since the start of

this alliance in 1948, in the hope of avoiding another devastating war, we join together with a handful of allies to pledge that we would come to one another's defence. that pact was the seed of the nonh that pact was the seed of the north atlantic treaty. 75 years later, we're faced with new threats in europe . nato is more threats in europe. nato is more important than ever. it has proved itself to be the most successful alliance in history and this week we've shown once again that the uk is at its heart. thank you . we'll take again that the uk is at its heart. thank you . we'll take heart. thank you. we'll take some questions from the media. heart. thank you. we'll take some questions from the media. if i could start with with the if i could start with with the bbc, please . is thanks very much bbc, please . is thanks very much bbc, please. is thanks very much , prime minister ben wright from bbc, please. is thanks very much , prime minister ben wright from the bbc. the bbc. >> do you agree with your >> do you agree with your defence secretary, ben wallace , defence secretary, ben wallace , defence secretary, ben wallace, that people want to see a bit of defence secretary, ben wallace, that people want to see a bit of gratitude from ukraine for the gratitude from ukraine for the military help they are getting military help they are getting from the west and closer to from the west and closer to home? will government home? will government

departments have to in its departments have to make cuts elsewhere to fund higher pay rises for public sector workers? well president zelenskyy has expressed his gratitude for what we've done on a number of occasions, and not least in his incredibly moving address that he made to parliament earlier this year. >> and he's done so again to me as he has done countless times when