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but if i can destroy acting, is it also coming for your job.7 and have we given up on social mobility in the uk.7 some mobility in the uk? some shocking facts around educational attainment suggests that the class divide is only getting wider. all of that to come tonight on dewbs& co. with me bev turner. but first, the latest headlines with rory . latest headlines with rory. >> thank you very much, bev. a legal bid to challenge the decision by the home office to use former raf bases to house asylum seekers has been approved by the high court. west lindsey district council opposes the use of raf scampton in lincolnshire . braintree council is challenging the use of wethersfield airfield in essex. the two day hearing began on wednesday as the first migrants
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began arriving at wethersfield. well, former home secretary priti patel has told us here gb news that laws cannot be disregarded . disregarded. >> braintree district council have worked incredibly hard and all credit to them and their legal counsel for getting us to where we are with this judicial review. it's important that local people and our local councils and statutory service bodies that their voices are heard. we have laws in place, nationality and borders act. you know, we have the new plan for immigration in place. you know, we worked for years to get those policies in place and that legislation in place. you can't just discard it and to just discard it and try to supersede with policies . supersede it with new policies. >> junior doctors in england say they're in it for the long run on day two of their five day strike. that's despite the government's offer of a 6% pay rise, which the prime minister says is final. rise, which the prime minister says is final . the british says is final. the british medical association says more strikes are possible. they want an offer closer to the 12.4%
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given to junior doctors in scotland . hundreds of people scotland. hundreds of people have been attending the funeral of one of the students stabbed to death in nottingham last month . around 600 people were at month. around 600 people were at taunton minster in somerset to pay taunton minster in somerset to pay their respects to barnaby weber, one of the three people killed during those attacks. the 19 year old was killed as he returned from a night out with fellow student grace o'malley. kumar, 65 year old school caretaker ian coates, was also stabbed to death during the attack. a man charged with the murders is due in court for a plea hearing in september. former manchester city footballer benjamin mendy has been found not guilty of rape and attempted rape at chester crown court. the france international was accused of raping a 24 year old woman at his house in cheshire in october 2020. he was also charged with the attempted rape of a 29 year old woman two years earlier. mendy had denied both charges,
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saying the encounters had been consensual . almost 1000 workers consensual. almost 1000 workers at gatwick airport, including baggage handlers and check in staff, will stage eight days of strikes later this month. unite union says there because of ongoing pay disputes , its ongoing pay disputes, its workers will walk out for four days. that's from friday the 28th of july. then again from friday, the 4th of august for another four days. airlines affected include british airways , easyjet, ryanair, tui , westjet , easyjet, ryanair, tui, westjet and wizz air . , easyjet, ryanair, tui, westjet and wizz air. the department for transport has approved plans to build a two mile road tunnel near stonehenge. it's part of plans to turn the a303 into a dual carriageway. the transport secretary has granted a so—called development consent order, but a previous one was overturned by a high court in 2021, after campaigners raised concerns for the unesco world heritage site to two british men
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have been sentenced for smuggling. seven indian migrants , including women and children, into the uk in the boots of cars . one man who was stopped in doverin . one man who was stopped in dover in 2018 has been given three and a half years for assisting unlawful immigration . assisting unlawful immigration. three indian nationals claiming to be afghan sikhs were found in the boot of his hire car. his co—accused, who had four indian nationals in his , has been nationals in his, has been jailed for three years and two months, also for assisting unlawful immigration . an air unlawful immigration. an air india's space agency has successfully launched a rocket to the moon , 3 to 1 zero. to the moon, 3 to 1 zero. >> the mission is aiming to land at the lunar south pole and deploy a rover which will conduct experiments for two weeks. >> only three other space agencies thus the us, china and the former soviet union have landed on the moon, but none have been to the south pole . and
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have been to the south pole. and at wimbledon , defending champion at wimbledon, defending champion novak djokovic has reached the men's singles final. novak djokovic has reached the men's singles final . he beat men's singles final. he beat eighth seed jannik . sinner eighth seed jannik. sinner 636476. his record equalling 46th grand slam semi—final earns him a record breaking 35th final, taking him past that of chris evert . tv online final, taking him past that of chris evert. tv online dab+ radio and on tunein , this is gb radio and on tunein, this is gb news nato . back to bev . news nato. back to bev. >> welcome to dewbs & co this >> welcome to dewbs& co this evening with me, bev turner and joining me until seven my panel. i'm delighted to say former brexit party mep and ceo of first property group, ben habib and rapper and author zuby . i've and rapper and author zuby. i've told you both, i said on social media that they were like, do
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you want to sit in for jews on friday? and i was like, you know what? the kids are off school. i'm busy. there's a lot on. and they said, it's you two. and i was like, try and stop me. try and stop me. this is going to be good. you get in touch as well this won't you? this evening, won't you? vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address twitter at gb address or on twitter at gb news. now, according to a news. right now, according to a campaign don't us campaign group, don't divide us of part. of which ben habib is part. pupils in schools are being tested white privilege and tested on white privilege and are to check are undergoing tests to check their bias . are undergoing tests to check their bias. don't their unconscious bias. don't divide us published their latest report , which zooms in on report, which zooms in on organisations who are promoting radical political beliefs in schools . so ben, this feels schools. so ben, this feels timely . actually, i think this timely. actually, i think this is a report that needed doing, but i'm finding it quite hard to put my finger on why i think this needed doing. but tell us who the group are and why you felt was. the time now. felt this was. the time was now. so merely one of a large so i i'm merely one of a large group of people. >> but this effort was spearheaded by like spearheaded by people like claire acas nigel cuthbert claire fox, acas nigel cuthbert , katharine birbalsingh , you
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, katharine birbalsingh, you know, they were at the forefront of britain's strictest head. yep, strictest head. and the most one as far as i can most sane one as far as i can see. wonderful, lady. and see. she's wonderful, lady. and it don't divide us came in the wake of the george floyd incident in the us. wake of the george floyd incident in the us . when do you incident in the us. when do you remember? there were burning . remember? there were burning. the us was on fire and they were bringing that kind of ideology to the uk . but white privilege, to the uk. but white privilege, which is essentially at the core of what don't divide us, stands against it, is a theory that goes back quite a long way. it goes back quite a long way. it goes back quite a long way. it goes back to the 1970s, except it never really got traction until, in my mind, relatively recently. it's probably been gaining traction slowly in the background. but it is time we stood up to it and the basic premise behind white privilege is that if you're white, you're privileged, and if you don't recognise that privilege and you don't recognise your unconscious bias against ethnic minorities, you're a racist . it bias against ethnic minorities, you're a racist. it right. so you're a racist. it right. so you're not allowed to be white without sort of acknowledging
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that you're to prone being a racist, but you wouldn't argue it in this country that in terms of poverty and educational attainment and funnily, if it comes down to another couple of topics, i'm going to talk about later that statistically, of course, white people earn more. >> do better, are more likely to be privately educated or not. >> there are also >> but there are also a preponderance of the population is white. you know, last time i looked , i think was about 85% looked, i think it was about 85% of population is white. and of the population is white. and what you don't do in life and zuby and i, both you know, have i'm an i'm from an ethnic minority . so is obe. and you minority. so is obe. and you know what you don't do is equate our rights, our opportunities in life by attacking white people. what you do is create a level playing field for all rather than inculcate creating division by somehow saying that zuby and i are different to others. we're not where people feel we've got the same aspirations , same the same aspirations, same desires and life as everyone else and the same capabilities
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the other thing that's quite interesting about white privilege is that it assumes and it and it promotes it's this theory that actually people from ethnic minorities do need a helping hand . it's actually helping hand. it's actually quite racist in itself. >> was there a time , zuby, when >> was there a time, zuby, when we did need to have this conversation, but maybe we've gone into a more post—racial world now. there was probably a time, but it was also probably before i was born. >> wow . okay. you know , the fact >> wow. okay. you know, the fact that this these conversations are happening more now around racism and what i would call racialism, a lot of it has been imported from the usa. that's for sure. and it's happening all across the west . so these same across the west. so these same conversations and concerns , conversations and concerns, things that are happening right here and these type of investigations , the exact same investigations, the exact same thing is happening all across the usa, but with even more fervour. it's happening in canada, it's happening in australia. western
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australia. basically any western particular english speaking anglos sphere, country. these conversations are going on and i think that the demand for racism has been much higher than the supply for a long time. >> i see what you mean, but who's vested in that then? who has a vested interest in there being more racism than there really is? >> people who from it. which. >> who? which is who? >> who? which is who? >> there are organisations, there are groups, there are politicians, are activists politicians, there are activists whose entire livelihood and reason to reason for being would cease to exist if everyone just said exist. but if everyone just said actually , you know what, actually, you know what, everyone we all agree that racism is bad. we also agree that more than pretty much any other part of the world or any other part of the world or any other time in human history, we've made more progress in combating it, which was necessary in the past. and, you know , and still is as we go on. know, and still is as we go on. but you don't combat racism with more racism, but there'll be black guys watching this at home now are like, hang now who are like, hang on a minute, zuby. >> like you have >> you like me, you will have been stopped for knife been stopped more for knife crime. might have not been crime. you might have not been priority you priority for certain jobs. you might found yourself on the
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might have found yourself on the receiving end of insults on the street or threats from people. so. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and how do you not expect that? if you do, do you just that? or if you do, do you just handle it differently? >> honestly not >> i honestly have not experienced and i and i know experienced it and i and i know and i can and been there. yeah, yeah. and through the nature of what done, actually what i've done, i've actually met thousands of met hundreds of thousands of people in the not people in the uk. not exaggerating. i used to sell my cds on the street and in shopping centres. i did that for over decade. have met over a decade. i have met hundreds of of people hundreds of thousands of people in travelled in this country. i've travelled the and i think the world a lot and i think i can categorically and fairly say that the uk one of the least that the uk is one of the least racist countries in the entire world. think by quite world. oh, i think by quite a significant margin. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> doubt about it. >> no doubt about it. >> no doubt about it. >> look at us. look at our government. look at our cabinet. look at prime minister. look at our prime minister. >> i'll that and someone >> now i'll say that and someone will go and say, oh, he said, racism doesn't exist. no, i'm not doesn't exist. not saying racism doesn't exist. it single it exists in every single country. it's a part of the human of bias and elements human sin of bias and elements of tribalism. >> yeah, tribalism itself is >> yeah, tribalism in itself is not inherently bad, but not always inherently bad, but it off in bad ways. white it can go off in bad ways. white people who are no, at
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people who are no, no, not at all. no, not at all. >> so these sort of ideas , >> so. so these sort of ideas, these radical ideas which i don't the term cultural marxism has been sort of overused, but this is really what it is rather than looking at the class division, this is now splitting it across racial lines and trying to get and set each people at each other's throats based on their skin colour, their background so based on their skin colour, theiand background so based on their skin colour, theiand ultimately)und so based on their skin colour, theiand ultimately ,jnd so based on their skin colour, theiand ultimately , as so based on their skin colour, theiand ultimately , as ben's;o on. and ultimately, as ben's already said, i mean, number one, many aspects of it are simply not true. and then secondly, it's not helpful, right? ever explains, right? no one ever explains, okay, you're going go and okay, if you're going to go and you're to sit a bunch of you're going to sit a bunch of children down and you're going to brainwash them with this nonsense, this helping? to brainwash them with this nonsisse, this helping? to brainwash them with this nonsis this this helping? to brainwash them with this nonsis this goingthis helping? to brainwash them with this nonsis this going tos helping? to brainwash them with this nonsis this going to help)ing? to brainwash them with this nonsis this going to help the? how is this going to help the black brown kids? is this black or brown kids? how is this going the white kids? black or brown kids? how is this goingis the white kids? black or brown kids? how is this goingis this the white kids? black or brown kids? how is this goingis this going white kids? black or brown kids? how is this goingis this going t0|ite kids? black or brown kids? how is this goingis this going to helpids? how is this going to help anyone? it's going to make anyone? it's just going to make them at each other with them look at each other with suspicion. harbour resentment. and kind of thing and that is the kind of thing that will actually cause real racism. okay. that will actually cause real raciand okay. that will actually cause real raciand i'my. that will actually cause real raciand i'm very playing >> and i'm very much playing devil's because i devil's advocate here because i pretty with pretty much agree with everything saying. everything that you're saying. but order have but but, but in order to have have debate on this, have a good debate on this, i think it's important. i'm
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putting myself the of putting myself in the shoes of people that i would know who would well, hang would say, well, hang on a minute, my son won't have the same opportunities because they are or indian, asian as are black or or indian, asian as your will. your white son will. >> think i think this >> i think i think this this i think this panel is probably not the best example people's the best example for people's skin them back. the best example for people's skirbecause them back. the best example for people's skirbecause if them back. the best example for people's skirbecause if we've:hem back. the best example for people's skirbecause if we've doneback. the best example for people's skirbecause if we've done all> because if we've done all right. >> yeah i mean you've got a fruit salad, an oxford, an oxford and a cambridge graduate i >> right. and both entrepreneurs and business owners, i mean , and business owners, i mean, it's yeah, but i think we're testimony to the fact that the united kingdom is not institutionally racist . institutionally racist. >> actually, when i was brought up, i and i welcome your view on this and yours beverley i was taught everyone is equal. yes. and that is a fundamental foundation from which you can advance the minute you say black lives matter more than white lives, you've put a racial division down the middle of society. >> but if we just consider where this came from, where this, as you would describe it, as reverse racism or racism against white people, has came from it
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stemmed from positive discrimination, did it not? yeah. so quotas in the workplace , diversity, diversity and inclusion are bad things. but did they not start out with with good intentions? >> well, i think it's i think it's more sinister than that. i think zubi is absolutely right that there are vested interests, but there's a political ideology andifs but there's a political ideology and it's quite a sinister one. and i'm not a conspiracy theorist theorist , but there is theorist theorist, but there is a perpetual tug of war between democracy and those that govern us and those that govern us want to take power away. and as you know, i'm a brexiteer and one of the one of the mechanism by which our governing class stripped the people of their democratic rights is by handing power over to independent bodies , sometimes domestically, sometimes through nationally. and the eu is a really good example. and if you believe in things like supranasal regional bodies, the pooling of sovereignty, you can achieve your aim much more easily. if
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your aim much more easily. if you undermine a national identity . us and the way you identity. us and the way you undermine . sorry. no, no, no. go undermine. sorry. no, no, no. go complex, but the way you undermine national identity essentially is to get citizens of a nation to lose their self—confidence. so that's why you see an attack on white people in this country. you see, if you're at school, you're taught and if you're white, that actually your forefathers were slave traders, that you should be ashamed of the british empire, that those who guaranteed our freedom by fighting germany were actually no more than white supremacists . that you are entitled . you . that you are entitled. you should be ashamed of that entitlement that they undermine our language as well. they they promote ostensive . we promote promote ostensive. we promote minority interest to the detriment of the majority by making you a sexually phobic. if you don't sign up to their lgbtq+ agenda, you know, it's multifaceted. this attack .
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multifaceted. this attack. >> and yet you think it has an ideological globalist? >> it does, because what's so interesting, ben, hearing you say the word self—confidence, because when were talking because when you were talking then zahawi about the fact that you never experience you feel you never experience overt racism. >> i'm thinking >> i'm looking at i'm thinking why what i'm seeing is why and i'm what i'm seeing is self—confidence . yeah. like self—confidence. yeah. like nothing but self—confidence. and i wonder whether that's because you energy. that you give off this energy. that means don't look, i've had means you don't look, i've had i've victim and i've had as a victim and therefore, you don't become a victim. >> look, mean, i've, you know, >> look, i mean, i've, you know, you get idiots the internet you get idiots on the internet who know, send random who might, you know, send random stuff behind anonymous stuff to you behind anonymous profiles, who cares what profiles, but who cares what impediment is that to my life? >> that's right. right. the truth is, with all of these situations and it doesn't matter whether talking about situations and it doesn't matter whethe|you're talking about situations and it doesn't matter whethe|you're talking] about situations and it doesn't matter whethe|you're talking aboutt racism, you're talking about sexism , you're talking any sexism, you're talking about any of phobias and isms, all of the phobias and isms, all these things that people are massively concerned the massively concerned about. the best you can do as best that you can do as a society and as a culture. and even the law is treat even under the law is treat everybody fairly obe that's the best that you can do. not set different standards for people , different standards for people, not coddle some people and tell
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some people they're victims, tell other people they're oppressors. everybody oppressors. just treat everybody equally and fairly. that's it. going back to martin luther king jr, but of content of character, these organisations , owens, that these organisations, owens, that you've identified in this report, ben who are working in schools , they they don't see schools, they they don't see that and they, they obviously want there to be this sort of division and the idea of subconscious or unconscious bias. >> they say it's unbelievable. you can't know , you know, even you can't know, you know, even if you don't feel it, you're basically biased. exactly. and we can't prove it . it's sort of we can't prove it. it's sort of kafkaesque, isn't it, in a way. like we can't prove to you that you're inherently racist. just believe us when we tell you that you are. >> i mean, people accuse me of being a racist and i say, well, i'm half pakistani. and they go, yeah, but you're really white. and i go, no, i'm really not. you know, i'm half, half and they can't get it. they think suella braverman racist. suella braverman is racist. she's racist just because she's not racist just because she stop illegal she wants to stop illegal crossings she wants to stop illegal crossingl, can i bring an
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>> can i, can i bring an important point here as well because what's going on here is what call inflation. what i call label inflation. >> and is when you call >> and this is when you call everything everybody everything and everybody a racist supremacy list racist or a white supremacy list or a sexist or whatever it is , or a sexist or whatever it is, all these terms are devalued. they meaning. if you they lose their meaning. if you just them around, put them just throw them around, put them on everything like ketchup, then on everything like ketchup, then on who on when you do have someone who is white supremacist or a is a true white supremacist or a true racist or a true or whatever, what do you now label that person? you've already called and called everyone else racist and everyone right . everyone else far right. >> so there is normalised >> so if there is normalised them, you've normalised them, yes, you've normalised it. >> taken the power >> you've taken away the power of these words just over of these words by just over using much. yeah. so i using them so much. yeah. so i think is actually of think this is actually part of the dangen the long term danger. >> a difficult what a >> but what a difficult what a difficult kind of tied to stem of what we're describing here. >> how we start the pushback ? >> 7- >> look, ? >> look, people need 7 >> look, people need to sorry to jump >> look, people need to sorry to jump in. no, no, no. >> people need to people need to say no. what people need to just reject these ideas. i think my personal , because been personal view, because i've been involved conversations involved in these conversations for at this point for several years at this point and i find the vast majority of people agree with me regardless of their skin colour and their
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background, know, they'll background, you know, they'll get far lefty do get some far lefty types who do disagree. but most people are not willing to state the things that we are saying. yeah, right. again, because they don't want to. >> they don't. being they >> they don't. of being they don't to be called don't want to be called a racist. >> right. but it's really the simple and i think people need to stop so gentle with it to stop being so gentle with it and say no. yeah right. if and just say no. yeah right. if you're if you're a parent and your child is going to school and they're teaching your little black boy that he's a victim and white people are out to oppress him and that they're all racist or whatever. no, you need to take up with school . if take that up with the school. if you're little white boy you're a little white boy or girl going school and girl is going to school and being that they're somehow being told that they're somehow responsible atrocities responsible for atrocities that happen years ago happen hundreds of years ago before they were born, which they have nothing to do with, and should treating and they should be treating their fellow , their friends and their fellow, their friends and their fellow, their friends and their students their fellow students differently. and they should be seeing race, all stuff. seeing race, all this stuff. it's utter garbage, this is not the way we were raised. and i think we've come out very well. and i'm concerned that by creating this type of division
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and , you're actually and animosity, you're actually going creating a more going to end up creating a more racist society. >> what we need to head towards, which said, if i can which you said, zuby, if i can just it up, is an equal just sum it up, is an equal opportunity society, not an equal outcome society. and part of this debate , i think, comes of this debate, i think, comes from a there's an economic aspect to all of this, too. you know, creating a dependency culture, making people dependent on the state, making sure everyone has the same outcome. it's almost communism, really. what is equal what we want is equal opportunity, right? >> got to move on. thanks, >> we've got to move on. thanks, guys. right. next public guys. right. next as public sector get rises , sector workers get pay rises, why are armed forces getting why are the armed forces getting so little in comparison
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dressed as a man. fully bearded. i a man. i am a man. >> those are the rules. >> those are the rules. >> apparently they are the >> well, apparently they are the rules. but that's that's why you're brilliant. you're so brilliant. >> i a trend setter you >> i was a trend setter you missed. i've many men missed. and i've seen many men have the same thing ever have done the same thing ever since, so. >> i love it. >> oh, i love it. >> i get on and lose fired by you right? >> watching dewbs& co >> you are watching dewbs& co with me. bev turner this evening. habib is here. and evening. ben habib is here. and also zuby. now the government have announced sector pay have announced public sector pay rises five and 7. but rises of between five and 7. but the armed forces are stuck with just the army just the 5. so why are the army being out to dry? ben, does being hung out to dry? ben, does this feel fair to you? mean, this feel fair to you? i mean, obviously we've doctors, obviously we've got doctors, junior doctors still wanting this pay rise, 6% this ridiculous 35% pay rise, 6% is rishi sunak has offered is what rishi sunak has offered across the board. but it kind of struck me that we are neglecting our military. is that because they can't strike, we always neglect military. neglect our military. >> we put them in >> you know, we put them in harm's without proper harm's way without proper equipment. haven't spent equipment. we haven't spent anywhere near enough on our military as we should have done. we've consumed the peace dividend multiple times over. and if we want to be a nation
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that has global influence , that has global influence, actually you've got to have a strong military. and it's important that we do have it. and i'm sure part of the reason that they've been underpaid, relatively speaking, is because they can't strike there is there is also a reasonable reason for it because a lot of their living comes at the cost of the state anyway . you know, accommodation, anyway. you know, accommodation, accommodation . i think they have accommodation. i think they have subsidised meals subsidised education, care for their children and so on. so there's, there's a big inflationary aspect which they automatically get that other public sector workers won't necessarily get. but on the general point about our military, we are always treating them badly . we need treating them badly. we need more of them, we need better equipment and we need to be ready for war because only if you're ready for war. well, will we be able to maintain the peace. >> do you think also obe? i do wonder whether when it comes to our soldiers, particularly , the our soldiers, particularly, the assumption might be, well, you know they're young, tend know, they're young, they tend to more working class kind of
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to be more working class kind of boys. they don't you know, they haven't another option. haven't got another option. they've army because they've gone to the army because don't else. don't want to do anything else. so we'll just we'll kick them a small 5. >> yeah, maybe. just think >> yeah, maybe. so i just think there's there's not much of there's not there's not much of a negotiating position on and, you i think in the grander you know, i think in the grander scheme public sector scheme of these public sector pay scheme of these public sector pay rises, it's difficult because something when it comes to politics and when it comes to the economy, people don't like to talk in these terms. but the truth is there's two things. number one, there's always trade offs, right ? there aren't really offs, right? there aren't really true solutions . there are just true solutions. there are just trade offs. and then also, there's not an actual infinite money tree. and when you try to play money tree. and when you try to play the infinite money tree game, that's how you get monetary inflation, which is what is causing now all of the problems to begin with. so look, i'm not a i'm not an expert in these matters, but i acknowledge these matters, but i acknowledge the reality of the situation. and i think there's always going to be compromises exactly where
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you can cut from and give to, you can cut from and give to, you know, we elect people to make these decisions. >> but do you think you're a young man? i noticed it and not me . me. >> you're quite young so relative then but do you think it's still appeals to young men going in the military like they all just want to be instagrammers and you know, go and a youtube channel? and have a youtube channel? >> i think it's going to be increasingly hard in the next couple decades to even couple of decades to even find men that want fulfil that men that want to fulfil that very role model . very masculine role model. >> yeah, you're absolutely correct. and the number, the number of men, the percentage of men who are in the physical men who are even in the physical shape to call fi the same problem they're having actually in the usa as well. they've had to the a bit for the to lower the bar a bit for the people who can potentially come into military service. so into the military service. so yes, do think there's going to yes, i do think there's going to be a massive problem. i also think another factor is that with many of the things we're even talking about in the previous segment, another thing that's younger
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that's happened is younger people not feeling as people are not feeling as patriotic as previous generations were. right. when you constantly are undermining and you would say that's when you're when you're constantly telling that, know telling people that, you know the inherently bad the country is inherently bad and all of these things, then why would you want go into why would you want to go into the military ? so i think when the military? so i think when they're doing some of these initiatives talking initiatives and they're talking initiatives and they're talking in way, i don't think in a certain way, i don't think they're perhaps they're not thinking about what thinking long term about what the this of the consequences of this type of messaging are the younger messaging are on the younger generation even the military messaging are on the younger gen now on even the military messaging are on the younger gennow practisingzn the military messaging are on the younger gennow practising a the military messaging are on the younger gennow practising a form nilitary messaging are on the younger gennow practising a form ofitary are now practising a form of racism. >> you know, they're practising inclusivity and diversity and making sure they've got quotas, priority , prioritise, priority , priority, prioritise, priority, prioritising certain ethnicities over white people and actually what do you want most out of your military? you want the best. you want the best coming forward and the way to do that is to make them proud. yes. you know, make them want to serve, not fight. >> so interesting how so >> it's so interesting how so many issues come back to that idea undermine ing the idea of undermine ing the sovereignty of the individual
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nation. >> it absolutely it underpins so much of what we talk about . much of what we talk about. absolutely. and that's why i was a brexiteer , because had to a brexiteer, because we had to take back control from the eu that wishes to strip us of our democrat rights and make decisions over our heads in brussels, not for our interests, not for the british people, but for what keeps them in office and is best for the eu, not even for germans, french, italian , for germans, french, italian, spanish, greeks, whatever. it's just for the eu. and we've got to fight this movement and it's not just the eu, it's also the un, the who, the world bank, the imf , they're all at it. and imf, they're all at it. and we've got to pull back sovereignty to the uk. we've got to be proud to be british. >> you must have watched things like the nato meeting this week with sunak there. what what do you think? what do you think when see do we still when you see that? do we still need sorts of collaborations? >> need but nato, >> well, we need nato, but nato, i'm is being. you know, i'm afraid, is being. you know, when you've president of when you've got the president of the united states of america, who can who can go over ben wallace and choose ursula von
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der leyen, who's a failed defence minister for germany, to be head of nato, where you've got the united kingdom bigging up the importance of ukraine and sovereignty and the integrity of that country, and yet giving up northern ireland to the european union, leaving it behind , union, leaving it behind, subject to foreign laws, adjudicated by a foreign court. you know, you see the this is the breakdown of western liberal democracies and it all comes back to an attack on the nation state. so i moved back on to where we were in the first segment. but can i just ask you one thing? >> why didn't you intern? didn't you the term jackson you invent the term jackson eight? explain to people eight? yes explain to people what that means , because i love what that means, because i love this. >> it's from the term any any gym goer is probably familiar with the term getting, which is just, know, building up your just, you know, building up your muscles, training, muscles, strength training, getting the getting fit. so during the campaign , they pushing campaign, when they were pushing for get get for people to get get vaccinated, was suggesting vaccinated, i was suggesting that get that people should get vaccinated, them, get their vaccinated, get them, get their bodies shape, exercise, eat bodies in shape, exercise, eat well and then they can also keep themselves and help others.
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>> with your own >> and just start with your own physical responsibility physical health responsibility for health. for your own physical health. >> something we don't >> that's something we don't talk about enough, it? talk about enough, isn't it? right. guys. okay. so right. thanks, guys. okay. so coming next, i destroy coming up next, will i destroy hollywood and other creative industries? , he industries? zuby recently, he went and met elon musk to talk about pretty much just this. see you in to that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news >> good evening . my name is >> good evening. my name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast brought to you by the met office . so it's been quite an unsettled, wet and miserable end to the week and that isn't going to the week and that isn't going to change much as we go through the weekend. it's all due to this area of low pressure that's going north going to be pushing north eastwards uk and it's eastwards across the uk and it's going to be bringing some pretty strong even as we go into strong winds, even as we go into tonight. but that rain that we've through much of we've seen through much of friday will to clear away friday will start to clear away towards scotland, towards northern scotland, but bringing bursts for bringing some heavier bursts for eastern areas . so there could be eastern areas. so there could be some localised disruption there.
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radio. >> welcome back to dewbs& co with me, bev turner keeping me company this evening. former brexit party mep and ceo of first property group, ben habib and rapper and author zuby . you and rapper and author zuby. you have been getting in touch with us this evening. now, i might not be quite as clever as michelle dewberry at the michelle dewberry at opening the emails on the laptop. emails on the on the laptop. sorry about this. i'd love to tell you're saying, but tell you what you're saying, but i do it, so we're just i can't do it, so we're just going have to on. going to have to move on. i think having spoken to zuby about women's about breaking the women's deadlifting might get deadlifting record, we might get to see this now. right? there he is. is. this woman. is. this is. this is a woman. this is zuby. she identifies as a us what you're a woman. tell us what you're doing here. zbz pulling 230 kilo deadlift a bodyweight of deadlift at a bodyweight of around 83. >> so you do look very feminine. >> so you do look very feminine. >> yeah , some people do say it's. >> it's normally the voice that
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gives it away. >> but what about the women who's you stole that record from? >> so yes, obviously, i was i was making a point. yeah so it's crazy that that was over four and a half years ago and it's quite amazing that the conversation about that particular issue is continuing to rage on. and it kind of just shows the absurdity of where we are . are. >> well, some sports have made the right decisions, haven't they? >> yeah. finally, i think cycling and swimming as well, thanks largely in no part to the work sharron davis. work of sharron davis. >> they have decided to allow biological females to only compete females. compete with biological females. yeah, say, that was yeah, but like you say, that was four years ago. were doing four years ago. you were doing it parody of what was to come. >> yeah, because i saw the issue early on from about 2016 and yeah, just i didn't expect yeah, i just i didn't expect that whole video to go to go viral. that thing has i don't know many millions of you, know how many millions of you, how millions of people have how many millions of people have seen that. but yeah, know, seen that. but yeah, you know, i don't i don't want to get i don't i don't want to get i don't want to distract from the main discussing. main topic we're discussing. but yeah, sports back. >> i bet you don't weigh as much
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as that barbell, do you? >> i bet. i don't know where near nobody. >> i bet. i don't know where nea honestly, nobody. nobody >> i bet. i don't know where nea hoinobodonbody. nobody >> i bet. i don't know where nea hoinob0dy should nobody >> i bet. i don't know where nea hoinob0dy should nobody really. nobody should nobody should . should write. >> hollywood is now joining the summer the screen summer of strikes, the screen actors american actors guild and the american federation of television and radio film radio artists will bring film and to a halt. and tv productions to a halt. and this is going to affect productions uk well as productions in the uk as well as in this is all in america. and this is all about that i will be about fears that i will be writing scripts and making actors to require actors surplus to require payment. so this is scaring the entertainment industry, scaring all of us, frankly . zahawi all of us, frankly. zahawi should be worried you went to should we be worried you went to meet elon musk recently . how did meet elon musk recently. how did that happen? the guy now of that happen? the guy that now of course and owns twitter? course runs and owns twitter? >> yeah, well, he started following twitter about following me on twitter about about months ago and we were about six months ago and we were chatting actually most days we chat, we're chatting a lot in the dms and i invited him to come on to my podcast and then eventually when i was in the in the usa, we managed to work out a flew out to twitter a time. so i flew out to twitter headquarters san francisco headquarters in san francisco and you have sat down with him and you have sat down with him and because have more and that's because you have more than a million followers on twitter. do. a lot of people
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twitter. i do. a lot of people do, wasn't just that, do, though. i wasn't just that, not many people do. not that many people do. >> and just to just to >> i mean, and just to just to explain what that means, that means are at least a means that there are at least a million 1.1 million. i million about 1.1 million. i think got followers who think you've got followers who think you've got followers who think is sufficiently think that zubi is sufficiently interesting and wise that they want you've got to want to hear what you've got to say. day. that sounded say. every day. that sounded really derogatory and i didn't mean me. mean it to me. >> we you are that person, >> we know you are that person, but what means. but that's what it means. >> means that you can >> and it means that you can generate your own content. and when anything happens in the world, there you this when anything happens in the w(whal there you this when anything happens in the w(whal thaboutu this when anything happens in the w(whal thabout it. this when anything happens in the w(whal thabout it. and his when anything happens in the w(whal thabout it. and so is what i think about it. and so you got so elon musk got in you got in. so elon musk got in touch with you to talk about what he was doing wrong with twitter do it differently. >> he yeah, he wanted some he basically said, look, anything you see wrong with twitter or any you have, any suggestions you have, feel free so that free to send them to me. so that was our conversation was how our conversation started. but then, you know, the podcast is out now. you can listen that, the real talk listen to that, the real talk with 263. with zuby podcast episode 263. yeah, youtube, itunes, yeah, it's on youtube, itunes, spotify, everywhere. >> a big conversation. >> is he weird? >> is he weird? >> um, that's he weird telling pause, isn't it? >> he's made a lot of
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money. >> he's. he is. >> he's. he is. >> he's a bit weird isn't it. yeah. >> he's, he's a, he's a little weird, but he's very kind. he's very humble. he's very humble. very, very funny. obviously smart. liked he was. smart. yeah i liked him. he was. he cool. what you see is he was cool. what you see is what you get. he's not someone who suddenly different. >> behind scenes, >> and behind the scenes, weren't largely talking weren't you largely talking about and about intellectual property and your that kind your image rights and that kind of thing? >> because that's honestly not honestly, so much. honestly, not so much. >> podcast. we talk, >> in the podcast. we did talk, talk, talk. we talked talk, talk. sorry. we talked for two so discussed a lot two hours, so we discussed a lot of from under—populated of things from under—populated fashion space to to fashion to space travel to al to how he does all the things he does. free speech, lots of different topics, but we did talk about artificial intelligence because that's a concern mine. it's a concern concern of mine. it's a concern of his and a concern of millions, if not billions of people around the world. >> should it be, ben? i think it's really should. and i cannot countenance how quick hinckley this change happened . this change has happened. >> yeah, mean, i you know, >> yeah, i mean, i you know, there have been a lot of scare stories around about artificial intelligence, haven't they? and, you being the you know, part of me being the cynic that i am thinks that it's those who are who actually
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created product that wish created the product that wish to promote product. you know, promote the product. you know, putting stories about putting the scare stories about because bad news. all because no news is bad news. all good. all publicity is good pubuchy.i good. all publicity is good publicity. i don't think you can replace the human. perhaps this is me being too glib , but i is me being too glib, but i don't think you can easily replace the human spirit in life. so many techno logical revolutions have taken place where we've thought that is the end of mankind as we knew it. >> the steam engine , the steam >> the steam engine, the steam engine, the telephone, the television. i remember how my parents didn't want me to sit and the tv. and watch the tv. >> absolutely. you'll get square eyes of it. eyes and all the rest of it. and. then the internet and and. and then the internet and emails was going make us all emails was going to make us all redundant. i work now redundant. i work harder now than i used to have than i did when i used to have to put pen to paper. yeah, i'm forever dealing with, you know, i productivity has i think our productivity has gone react to technology, gone up. we react to technology, we obviously have to evolve . we we obviously have to evolve. we thought radio would put video would put radio out of play and at cinemas would be put out of play by at cinemas would be put out of play by videos. never happened . play by videos. never happened. so i think yeah, sure , actors so i think yeah, sure, actors and the profession will be
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challenged. they'll have to adapt it. things won't be the same as they were proprietary rights become a difficult thing to enforce and that's effectively what the actors are particularly worried about. >> the idea that you could do a scene in a movie, you could read some generic scripts, and then with your face they could create the entire rest of the movie and you only get paid one day's work and all the profit goes to the top. that is very much the movement of travel, isn't it? >> it's a concern for >> yeah, it's a concern for a lot of a of industries. lot of a lot of industries. >> and the fact that it's even a concern for the creative world and the music world, the acting world, those are actually the industries if ask industries that where if you ask people years ago, people about al five years ago, those the ones people those are the ones people thought the hardest to thought would be the hardest to undermine, thought would be the hardest to unc people. >> people. >> people. >> i myself, i thought >> i mean, i myself, i thought even, you know, the first ai music, it was kind of just electronic yeah and i was electronic music. yeah and i was like, well, how are they going to like, rapping or singing to do like, rapping or singing or is coming or whatever? and that is coming along a very scary so, along at a very scary rate. so, you know, again , like ben said,
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you know, again, like ben said, i'm the i'm an eternal optimist. i'm the i'm an eternal optimist. i'm a long term optimist. however in the short term , i'm however in the short term, i'm yeah, in the short term, i'm concerned. i just think there's going to be a lot of very, very rapid change that will affect a lot of industries and sectors and things. people have been doing their whole lives. >> what like you say >> i think what i like you say we always presume that the creative industries were the ones were oh, ones that were safe. oh, i'm a writer. fine. no will writer. it's fine. no one will ever be able to do the writing. there's one the boys in the there's one of the boys in the office he wasn't office here. he wasn't particularly even at particularly good even at writing a couple of sentences of script. me saying writing a couple of sentences of scriphe's me saying writing a couple of sentences of scriphe's now me saying writing a couple of sentences of scriphe's now written me saying writing a couple of sentences of scriphe's now written two saying writing a couple of sentences of scriphe's now written two books. that he's now written two books. he did it all on chatgpt. >> yeah, there we go. total books. but. >> but it. is it. is it good? >> but is it. is it. is it good? >> i don't i've not read >> i don't know. i've not read them. i will. >> i don't know. i've not read the ii. i will. >> i don't know. i've not read thei will/ill. >> i don't know. i've not read thei will read them the proof of >> i will read them the proof of the pudding will be in the eating waiting. >> think.i they're eating waiting. >> think. i they're good >> i think. i think they're good enough some enough because there are some bad there. bad books out there. >> it be and where >> where will it be and where will it be in 2 or 3 or five years? this is the thing like what is the loss? >> because there is always with any what appear be
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any of these what appear to be gains, be loss. and gains, there will be a loss. and it something about humanity it is something about humanity and ben and the human spirit. ben yeah, well, i think so. >> and you know, you put a human, at least for the moment, up a machine, human up against a machine, the human wins. think laterally. >> it depends on what >> i think it depends on what we're think it depends on, >> yeah, i think it depends on, i it depends game. i think it depends on the game. i think it depends on the game. i was was joke? >> but i won't do that. >> but i won't do that. >> what was what was the year? >> what was what was the year? >> you want to make >> what was what was the year? >> joke. you want to make that joke. >> but, but it was i mean, it that joke. >> iit's but it was i mean, it that joke. >> iit's beent was i mean, it that joke. >> iit's been avas i mean, it that joke. >> iit's been a while nean, it that joke. >> iit's been a while ag0|, it that joke. >> iit's been a while ago now was it's been a while ago now since it deep blue, the since the was it deep blue, the chess beat chess playing. i can beat it could beat top players. i could beat the top players. i mean, a while mean, that was quite a while back. yeah. mean, that was quite a while bacandeah. mean, that was quite a while bacand now the formulaic and >> and now and the formulaic and now they recently now they didn't they recently beat the best go player the now they didn't they recently beat tbecausejo player the now they didn't they recently beat tbecause go3layer the now they didn't they recently beat tbecause go is yer the now they didn't they recently beat tbecause go is more the complex. >> yeah don't i've never >> yeah i don't know i've never heard of go so i don't know but >> yeah i don't know i've never hea saying) so i don't know but >> yeah i don't know i've never hea saying) so iifon't know but >> yeah i don't know i've never hea saying) so iif you're ow but >> yeah i don't know i've never hea saying) so iif you're usingt >> yeah i don't know i've never he be aying) so iif you're usingt >> yeah i don't know i've never he be ayin nice) iif you're usingt >> yeah i don't know i've never he be ayin nice to if you're usingt >> yeah i don't know i've never he be ayinnice to it. ou're usingt ai be be nice to it. >> yeah. be be kind to it because well the thing is stay on side. on the good side. >> to me the it's on the good side. >.bit to me the it's on the good side. >.bit like to me the it's on the good side. >.bit like itto me the it's on the good side. >.bit like it reminds the it's on the good side. >.bit like it reminds mere it's on the good side. >.bit like it reminds me ofit's on the good side. >.bit like it reminds me of the a bit like it reminds me of the surveillance conversation, the law hasn't caught up the legislation hasn't caught up. >> hasn't caught up. >> parliament hasn't caught up. if actors who if you've got actors who are going on strike because they going out on strike because they know movie company know that the movie company currently to take currently has the right to take their face and replicate it in
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any way they want, then that just that it has just shows that that it has moved too quickly without the legislation around it and it is moving rapidly and clearly their legal poor when they moving rapidly and clearly their legal those poor when they moving rapidly and clearly their legal those contracts. vhen they signed those contracts. >> , i think it's also >> yeah, i think it's also important for people remember >> yeah, i think it's also imp(what for people remember >> yeah, i think it's also imp(what for peop|are remember >> yeah, i think it's also imp(what for peop|are seeingnber >> yeah, i think it's also imp(what for peop|are seeing ofzr that what what we are seeing of ai is consumer level. that what what we are seeing of ai is consumer level . so what ai is consumer level. so what actually exists is many years ahead of what we are seeing that already exists. >> well, you and i know i know of people who are working in this space who have told me in their own worlds that words that they are terrified by by some of they are terrified by by some of the things that organisations they themselves are working with are already doing with it. >> we at least need >> so i think we at least need the conversation be the conversation should be happening, be happening. >> you heard here >> well, you heard it here first. we've all got no first. when we've all got no jobs and you see that's remember you heard it here first. that's true isn't it. right. we've got to quick break. to take another quick break. but coming class divide to take another quick break. but comingthis class divide to take another quick break. but comingthis countrylass divide to take another quick break. but comingthis country bigger'ide to take another quick break. but comingthis country bigger than now in this country bigger than ever? you a minute .
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good evening. thank you for joining us. they brought me a glass of fizz this is how it is every friday night. i don't think i can introduce that on my morning though. right. think i can introduce that on my morning educatedugh. right. think i can introduce that on my morning educated pupils ght. think i can introduce that on my morning educated pupils are privately educated pupils are more twice as likely to go more than twice as likely to go to university compared to comprehensive live kids. we have people ripping their own teeth out at moment because they out at the moment because they can't access nhs dentists . and can't access nhs dentists. and if afford tesla then if you can't afford a tesla then you're going have to pay you're going to have to pay to drive through certain cities with is this country with ulez. so is this country more and more divided by class than ever before ? for ben habib, than ever before? for ben habib, it very much feels that way. >> it does. and there's a really good reason why it feels that way. and i think it comes back to talking to what we were talking about early programme about early on in the programme about this desire to create equal outcomes as opposed to equal opportunities , and in the opportunities, and in the pursuit of equal outcomes is what the government has done is pursue an economic policy which is basically large state, lots of spending interventionist
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policies , trying to level the policies, trying to level the playing field and instead of creating an aspirational, ambitious working population , ambitious working population, what we've got is a population that actually looks to the state for its protection every five seconds. you know, if there's something wrong , it's the something wrong, it's the state's problem. and when you do that and you run that socialist model, which the concern lviv government's done for the last 13 years, and tony blair before gordon brown and tony blair before that, you up before that, you end up effectively with everyone , one effectively with everyone, one feeling dependent on the state. and once that happens, you create quite a sort of underclass . and so in the underclass. and so in the pursuit of equal outcomes , what pursuit of equal outcomes, what we've done is break what we already had learned at vast cost in the 1980s was was the right model , which in the 1980s was was the right model, which is an aspirational all western capitalist anglo—saxon approach to life . anglo—saxon approach to life. and we need to find our way back to that. we need to create equal opportunities , not equal outcomes. >> do you trace it back to tony
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blair? i think i very much do. i do, absolutely. >> tony blair and you know, he he who has not gone away, let's remember, he is still now working very hard on the globalist agenda that we know in agenda 23. >> he's right there. >> he's right there. >> all the agendas which i oppose, he's at the heart of and if you take any policy he promoted you do the opposite. you'd probably be doing the right thing for the united kingdom. and so i think the problem goes back to that . problem goes back to that. right? but of course, what we've had in the last 15 years is inflation of around 35% public sector wage growth of about five, about 5 to 10. now so we've had real deflation in pubuc we've had real deflation in public sector wages. you know, we talked earlier about whether it was fair or not to have 6% wage growth. actually whilst zub's absil right, that we can't afford more, it's because the state is already spent far too much. but the reality is people are poorer and yet how do you
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therefore zooby encourage the next generation on to not just settle for being poorer and hoping that the government will give them a handout? >> universal basic income is being trialled in wales and also in the moment, but being trialled in wales and also in do the moment, but being trialled in wales and also in do turn|e moment, but being trialled in wales and also in do turn that)ment, but being trialled in wales and also in do turn that computert being trialled in wales and also in do turn that computer off how do we turn that computer off and reset it again ? and reset it again? >> that is a massive question . >> that is a massive question. it's very multifaceted. it's social, cultural , economic, social, cultural, economic, political, familial , all political, familial, all individual educational. >> as we were talking about . do >> as we were talking about. do you think that this sorry, just to interrupt you, just in terms of the education private school children are going in much greater numbers than before greater numbers than ever before to compared to to university and compared to state school children. is that the solution , though, in terms the solution, though, in terms of a traditional university education? because that was always what, you know, the poor aspired to. i put myself in that category having been state educated. parents were educated. my parents were determined me to to determined for me to go to university . university. >> truth is the game >> yeah, the truth is the game has changed and most have has changed and most people have not cottoned on to this fact simultaneously as, as a
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university education has gotten more expensive, the value of a degree in real terms has actually declined . right. if you actually declined. right. if you want to be if you want to go into a stem subject, you want to be engineer, or be an engineer, a doctor or something like yes, you something like that. yes, you absolutely need a degree. but i think right now certainly think right now and certainly in the way that you're the future, the way that you're going to measure success, it's not to going be university degrees. >> no . >> no, no. >> no, no. >> it's. well, how do you measure it? how do you measure success now? >> measure success? >> how do you measure success? i think it's well, monetarily, i think it's well, monetarily, i think the wealth you think it's the wealth you generate in the hours that you work. productivity and we work. it's productivity and we are falling behind. draghi statically in this in this country on productivity and health. >> we got wealth and we got health, health, wealth, happiness and you hanging out with elon, going also with elon, you're going to also have bit of wealth well. have a bit of wealth as well. guys, thank so much. i've guys, thank you so much. i've come to the end. benhabib zuby, thank much. i will go thank you very much. i will go away and drink the rest of my fears. i you a lovely fears. i hope you have a lovely weekend. back on monday weekend. i'll be back on monday morning andrew pierce, with morning with andrew pierce, with britain's newsroom at 930. see you temperatures rising, boxt
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>> the temperatures rising, boxt solar. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good evening . my name is >> good evening. my name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast brought to you by the met office. so it's been quite an unsettled, wet and miserable end to the week and that isn't going to the week and that isn't going to change much as we go through the it's all due to the weekend. it's all due to this area of pressure that's this area of low pressure that's going pushing north going to be pushing north eastwards the uk and it's eastwards across the uk and it's going to be bringing some pretty strong we go into strong winds even as we go into tonight. rain that tonight. but that rain that we've through much of we've seen through much of friday will start to clear away towards northern scotland, but bringing heavier bursts for bringing some heavier bursts for eastern so there could be eastern areas. so there could be some localised disruption there. elsewhere, a drier night, maybe the shower, but with those the odd shower, but with those strong winds, temperatures still remaining in the low teens . now remaining in the low teens. now looking to the start of the weekend and that rain will start to clear away from northern scotland . a rash of showers scotland. a rash of showers developing across the rest of the uk . these could be heavy and the uk. these could be heavy and thundery and with some
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particularly strong winds as well, they'll be rattling from west east throughout day. west to east throughout the day. but we might just see the odd, more shower more slow moving shower across parts but in those parts of scotland. but in those strong winds, it's going to continue feeling continue to be feeling unseasonably through unseasonably cool through saturday. looking ahead to sunday, though, generally the better the weekend for better day of the weekend for many , there will some many, there will be some persistent rain for a time across western parts of scotland. odd shower scotland. and the odd shower elsewhere, but a bit more in the way sunshine and winds way of sunshine and winds starting ease as we go south starting to ease as we go south to north. but looking ahead into the new week it will still the new week and it will still remain not so much as remain unsettled. not so much as we've over the weekend with we've seen over the weekend with temperatures average temperatures at or below average i >> -- >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on some lovely guests. we've
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