kelly will and journalist danny kelly will be joining me alongside author and campaigner for children in care , chris wild and a few care, chris wild and a few moments time, we'll be going head to head in a clash of minds with martin daubney. he's a gb news contributor and a former mep former editor of the mep and former editor of the globalist, peter elle edwards is. but we get started , is. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headunes. let's get your latest news headlines . nana. headlines. nana. >> thanks very much indeed . >> thanks very much indeed. let's bring you the top story, which is the uk has become the first european country to formally join the indo—pacific trade bloc, potentially creating access to over £12 trillion worth of global business. the business and trade secretary , business and trade secretary, kemi badenoch says the deal will bnng kemi badenoch says the deal will bring british businesses a step closer to selling to a market of over 500 million people in asia, with fewer barriers some every day items from countries within the bloc , such as australian ugg the bloc, such as australian ugg boots for example, could become cheaper for consumers. it's

estimated the agreement will come into effect towards the end of 20 2024. nigel huddleston , of 20 2024. nigel huddleston, international trade minister, told gb news earlier the deal will help grow the uk economy . will help grow the uk economy. >> we're talking about billions of pounds of additional economic activity right across the country. it will benefit every nafion country. it will benefit every nation and region of the uk, not just about where we are now, but where this could go in the future as well, because we expect the membership of cptpp to expand over the coming years . so i wouldn't be too obsessed with the current numbers. this is about potential growth is about the potential growth for uk economy . for the uk economy. >> well, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says that the trade deal is good, but there is more that needs to be done. any trade deal is, is good and i wouldn't call this one massive, but it's certainly not a plan for growth and the problem is we've not had a plan for growth for 13 years under this government. >> we still haven't got a plan for growth. so yes, look, a trade deal is always a step in

the right direction. but this is not a plan for growth. and it's that failure have plan for that failure to have a plan for growth left us in the growth that's left us in the economic mess that we're in. >> home secretary has >> well, the home secretary has published to sir keir published her letter to sir keir starmer claiming a labour staffer she met with just stop oil and extinction rebellion activists, private meetings. suella braverman claimed that internal memos from just stop oil showed the mbappe morden met with the environmental groups to sell to them on how labour is still driven by the environment . the home secretary called for the sacking of ms morden and for all office holders within the to party cut contact with, in her words , extremist groups. but sir words, extremist groups. but sir keir starmer has rebuffed the claims, saying none of his team are meeting with just stop oil surge procedures for more than 8000 children have been cancelled in scotland since 2019, according to the scottish liberal democrats. there describing the newly released data as a badge of shame for the snp government, the scottish

liberal democrats say many operations were cancelled due to lack of staff or lack of equipment . a scottish government equipment. a scottish government spokesperson has said the impact of covid 19 on the normal day to day running of nhs hospitals could not be underestimated . could not be underestimated. former soldiers could be called upon to join a reserve force in future crises , as the sunday future crises, as the sunday telegraph today reports , it's telegraph today reports, it's part of a planned overhaul of the military, which would reduce the military, which would reduce the british army to its smallest size since the napoleonic wars , size since the napoleonic wars, as ministers are expected to defend the proposals. part of the long awaited defence command paper , insisting the war in paper, insisting the war in ukraine shows how uk forces can become more agile. the army currently consists of more than 75,000 personnel with the paper reporting the government will announce plans to cut it to 73,000. at least 4000 people have had to be evacuated as a forest fire burns out of control in spain as the heatwave across

europe rages, the fire in la palma started in a wooded area on the island in the canaries yesterday, ten an aerial units and 300 firefighters on the ground fought to bring the fire under control . at least 13 under control. at least 13 houses were completely destroyed as the fire advanced across the island. that's according to the president . but the authorities president. but the authorities say the fire has affected more than 140,000 acres of land and firefighters are still battling a hotel fire in east sussex over 18 hours after it began . with 18 hours after it began. with today's high winds making it even tougher fight the emergency services were called to the royal albion hotel, which has been reduced to a burnt out shell in brighton yesterday evening. east sussex fire and rescue service say no one has been injured, but people did have to be evacuated from nearby buildings because of an extremely challenging set of conditions as significant smoke remains in the area around the hotel and police have advised people to stay away . so just an

people to stay away. so just an hour into the match, novak djokovic playing carlos alcaraz on centre court right now at the wimbledon men's final tennis championships . the prince and championships. the prince and princess of wales bringing their children prince george and princess charlotte , to the royal princess charlotte, to the royal box to watch the match. no novak djokovic is trying to secure a record equalling eighth wimbledon title, currently held, incidentally, by roger federer . incidentally, by roger federer. and meanwhile, in another match at wimbledon, 17 year old henry searle has become the first briton to win the wimbledon boys singles title since 1962. he beat his team mate, his his opponent, rather, yaroslav de—man six four, six four. congratulations henry. you're with gb news. more news as it happens. back to nana akua . happens. back to nana akua. >> thank you, polly. it's fast

approaching. seven minutes after 3:00. this is a gb views on tv, onune 3:00. this is a gb views on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. now before we get stuck into our debates over the next hour , let me introduce you next hour, let me introduce you again to my panel. joining me going head head in of going head to head in a clash of minds. gb news contributor and former , also former mep martin daubney, also a former labourlist editor , a former labourlist editor, peter edwards. come on, peter. smile, crack a smile . see you. smile, crack a smile. see you. he always does that , right. he always does that, right. let's see what else is coming up today. the longest serving defence minister since winston churchill, , has churchill, ben wallace, has confirmed that would be resigning defence minister at resigning as defence minister at the cabinet reshuffle and the next cabinet reshuffle and will as mp over the will step down as mp over the next election. we'll look at how big this is as a blow to rishi sunak then we'll be discussing inheritance tax. rishi sunak has doubled down on his pledge to scrap it if he wins the next general election, but will removing it be enough to get people voting? tory then green or gone ? new developments in the or gone? new developments in the uk are facing roadblocks and less councils agree to less local councils agree to implement net zero initiatives such as ulez or ultra low

emission zones and low traffic neighbourhoods. ltns finally, someone standing up to just stop oil. we'll be debating home secretary suella braverman stint stinging letter to sir keir starmer over labour's support for their antics and then does brexit. britain has something to celebrate. the uk has formally agreed to become the first european country to join a major indo—pacific trade bloc. and what makes britain's biggest trade deal ever since brexit? that's on the way in the next houn that's on the way in the next hour, as ever, tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. email gb views at gbnews.com tweet me at . gb gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. right. so let's start with that first topic. ben wallace, now he's set to step down as defence secretary after four years at the helm . after 18 years at the helm. after 18 years at the helm. after 18 years in parliament, he said it was just time to take a break from politics. so being under three prime ministers, wallace has overseen britain's withdrawal afghanistan , as withdrawal from afghanistan, as well as the uk's role in the

largest conflict in europe since the world and it the second world war. and it comes than mps comes as more than 40 tory mps have announced that they are standing down at the next election. so have we all lost hope and is he jumping the gun? is he jumping ship before? well, the ship sinks , but let's see the ship sinks, but let's see what my panel make of that going head in a clash head to head in a clash of minds. contributor and minds. gb news contributor and former european former member of the european parliament, and parliament, martin daubney, and also peter edwards, former editor of the labour list. right. let's start with you, peter johnson. as you've given me such a smile, there , me such a nice smile, there, what do you think then ? what are what do you think then? what are your thoughts? >> i think it's a cause for great concern, really . great concern, really. >> it's been in the pipeline in the last few days, it would seem. i mean, we're so used to being political, actually. being party political, actually. ben competent. he ben wallace, he's competent. he seems a man of integrity. seems to be a man of integrity. >> well, he is. >> well, he is. >> a former soldier. so >> he's a former soldier. so he's worthy of respect. >> been in post for >> and he's been in post for about four years. >> so. >> ? deserves to en— ? deserves to be treated >> so he deserves to be treated with gratitude. >> what does say about >> but what does it say about the when you've the sunak government when you've got the defence secretary quitting while europe is at war?

so i'm very worried about it and obviously we've had some hopeless defence secretaries like gavin williamson , now sir like gavin williamson, now sir gavin williamson and we've had some quite strong and competent ones, but. ben wallace so i think we show gratitude to ben wallace , but very concerned wallace, but very concerned about what comes next and what it says about the kind of collapsing government. collapsing sunak government. >> has it clear that >> but he has made it clear that it's not to do with sunak. he did say that it was simply because, there's other because, yeah, there's other things he's been because, yeah, there's other thinngor he's been because, yeah, there's other thinngor a he's been because, yeah, there's other thinngor a long he's been because, yeah, there's other thinngor a long time.ie's been there for a long time. >> he's been post, he's >> he's been in post, he's a member the scottish member of the scottish parliament, seats being parliament, but his seats being abolished he's had abolished and i think he's had changes life, changes in his personal life, which but but which affects us all. but but clearly, yeah, i believe clearly, has he? yeah, i believe so. what do know? so i so. and what do we know? so i think he's separated and that's that's sad in in any and that's sad in in any event and we all well. but i go we wish them all well. but i go back about, you back to my point about, you know, government has an know, the government has an awful challenges and awful lot of challenges and they're so they're losing a key person. so that something about that does say something about the government. >> martin any metric, >> martin by any metric, ben wallace been wallace should have been the next nato chief. he's got the cv. he's got the competence. he's got the grit, he's got the

experience. but politics has overtaken him. joe biden has shafted him instead has gone shafted him and instead has gone for ursula von der leyen as his top choice. der leyen have top choice. von der leyen have failed german defence minister, so incompetent german troops once practise with broomsticks because they ran out of weapons i >> -- >> yet emma >> yet where did you hear that? that's a true story really. >> and i heard her maiden speech in strasbourg when she made a pitch for european commissioner, president, and she was pledging a european army, an eu army, something we've been told by nick clegg was a dangerous fantasy. she's been putting fantasy. now she's been putting pole position ahead of wallace , pole position ahead of wallace, clearly the best candidate on paper. clearly the best candidate on paper . and we're now seeing the paper. and we're now seeing the globalist east eu bloc moving into nato. and i think ben wallace just thought that's the final straw. and also £5 billion of our taxpayers money has gone to ukraine at a time when we're cold, we're poor, we're hungry, and we're worrying about paying our mortgages and our rent and our mortgages and our rent and our food bills. and said that our food bills. and he said that that ukraine should be grateful they should be grateful. and he

said, we're not like amazon prime keep delivering prime because we keep delivering weapons to ukraine. and he's correct that. sin was correct on that. his sin was speaking truth to power being overtaken by globalist puppet, which is what von der leyen is. and i thought, i think he just thought quite reasonably, i've had he'll had enough of this, and he'll earn more money outside of earn far more money outside of parliament than ever will parliament than he ever will inside he's a fantastic inside of it. he's a fantastic talent. but the timing just wasn't right. >> giving up, aren't >> they're all giving up, aren't they? kind they? because we're kind of fighting on three fronts, fighting wars on three fronts, aren't got europe , aren't we? we've got europe, obviously, to obviously, with regard to ukraine, there's obviously the african things african side of things as well. and china as it would and also china as it would appear we have some sort of appear that we have some sort of information what information war going on. what do peter, do you think then, peter, though? because he's stepping down. in trouble. if down. we we're in trouble. if you envisage somebody you were to envisage somebody taking that who would taking that post who would you put there? well in reality, put in there? well in reality, i think rich us sunak is what historians call a in government, i.e. there have been several prime ministers as you know, so many reshuffles over 13 years that the current crop of tory cabinet ministers is pretty weak and you get that from the left

and you get that from the left and right. >> so i'm not going to pick out a successor. a successoi’. >> a successor. >> but would the labour party, i mean, if you're going to start picking people, i mean the picking out people, i mean the labour to labour party haven't got much to offer terms that. offer in terms of that. >> that's fair. >> i don't think that's fair. i think labour party has been out of office, has a chance renew of office, has a chance to renew doesn't think doesn't it? and i think the labour frontbench looks labour party frontbench looks stronger the stronger than it did in the corbyn certainly look at corbyn era. certainly look at rachel and economist as rachel reeves and economist as shadow chancellor better. to go back your point. back to your point. >> my question back to >> my question to come back to my question who you put my question though, who you put in the party, if in there in the labour party, if you presumably you were because presumably everyone going everyone thinks labour are going to if we go with to win. okay. so if we go with that, who put in then that, who would you put in then for labour party? who for the labour party? who would be to his shoes? be able to fill his shoes? >> even answer the >> you can't even answer the question are question because there are because anyone. because there isn't anyone. there a paucity of there is such a paucity of talent on the front of the talent on the front bench of the labour party and if emily thornberry thornberry, labour party and if emily thoranho's thornberry, labour party and if emily thoranho's total|ornberry, labour party and if emily thoranho's total avowed', labour party and if emily thoranho's total avowed over labour party and if emily tho top/ho's total avowed over labour party and if emily thotop europhileal avowed over labour party and if emily thotop europhile ,. avowed over labour party and if emily thotop europhile , you�*wed over labour party and if emily thotop europhile , you know, ver labour party and if emily thotop europhile , you know, she the top europhile, you know, she would back the sorts of people like leyen. she would like von der leyen. she would put in a back seat. she put britain in a back seat. she would the knee to this would take the knee to this movement european army. i movement of a european army. i think it's a worrying time ahead. david lammy is foreign secretary. he called brexiteers fascists. oh, yes. these are the

sort of people that are going to be running the country and they don't don't like we don't they don't like what we for stand globally. they're ashamed i think ashamed of our past. and i think they a back seat they will take a back seat in our future allow now the our future and allow now the european and joe our future and allow now the eufop(loi and joe our future and allow now the europeto take and joe our future and allow now the europeto take control.ind joe our future and allow now the europeto take control. alljoe our future and allow now the europeto take control. all ofe biden to take control. all of this this this future . and i this this this future. and i think britain needs strong , think britain needs a strong, independent, challenging voice. ben wallace was there and he's been out. been squeezed out. >> very briefly. >> answer that very briefly. >> answer that very briefly. >> you could. >> yes. if you could. >> think the my hesitation >> so i think the my hesitation for labour is labour shouldn't be dishing jobs. now there's be dishing out jobs. now there's an election campaign to be fought, just this, fought, but just on this, you know, an eu army. so know, idea of an eu army. so we're in eu, of we're not in the eu, first of all, secondly, it is not all, and secondly, it is not labour and not tory labour policy and it's not tory policy be part of so policy to be part of it. so i think the britain being think the idea of britain being part of an eu army is just for the birds. >> no, no, saying that, >> no, no, i'm not saying that, but just really thinking but but i'm just really thinking about in there for about who would sit in there for the party. the labour party. >> trying work, you >> we're trying to work, you know, criticise the tory know, you did criticise the tory party i would give them party and i would give them a lot of criticism as well. ben wallace fabulous candidate lot of criticism as well. ben wibe ce fabulous candidate lot of criticism as well. ben wibe doing fabulous candidate lot of criticism as well. ben wibe doing fjob.ous candidate lot of criticism as well. ben wibe doing fjob.ouswasididate to be doing the job he was doing. i look at the doing. but if i look at the labour party, i can't think of one person who would be good at

doing doing. doing the job that he's doing. and we're in a very and i think we're in a very troubling place. >> and 2019, and as somebody troubling place. >> lknocked'19, and as somebody troubling place. >> lknocked on and as somebody troubling place. >> lknocked on thousandsnebody troubling place. >> lknocked on thousands of oody who knocked on thousands of doors, elections in doors, you know, in elections in the the east the west midlands, the east midlands, who midlands, jeremy corbyn, who was then despised then the leader, was despised by anybody do with anybody with anything to do with the armed forces because of his position northern ireland position on northern ireland and our historical past. ashamed of our historical past. ashamed of our world war ii, our role in world war ii, ashamed global standing, ashamed of our global standing, this prime this guy almost became prime minister rid minister and he wants to get rid of tried he's not a labour of tried and he's not a labour party candidate. >> not now. >> he's not now. >> he's not now. >> was the person backed >> but he was the person backed by keir starmer, backed by all of the frontbenchers. by keir starmer, backed by all of tbut rontbenchers. by keir starmer, backed by all of tbut rontber mentioned trident >> but you've mentioned trident and the and actually i was reading the other labour were other day that labour were looking at unilateral disarmament this is disarmament as well, and this is concerning if that's a very correct, that's not correct, but will correct me is a very because that's what i was reading. >> no, it's not correct. it's a very sensitive issue in the labour party it's kind of labour party that it's kind of been for half a century been debated for half a century or more. labour party believes in disarmament because you don't or more. labour party believes in disa'mament because you don't or more. labour party believes in disa world�*nt because you don't or more. labour party believes in disa world of because you don't or more. labour party believes in disa world of nuclear you don't or more. labour party believes in disa world of nuclear weaponst want a world of nuclear weapons , in the , but there's no way in the world they'd ever do it unilaterally. and that goes back 50 or 60 years to bevin, the labour party. just said labour party. so you just said that unilateral disarmament labour party. so you just said that ulobviouslyisarmament labour party. so you just said that ulobviouslyisarméweak at would obviously be so weak at a

time when dangers are time when the dangers are greater than ever. so there would not not unilateral would not not not be unilateral disarmament, but you just you literally just said you literally just said you literally said that literally just said that what that i saying that what i was saying was wrong. >> f�*— @ you confirm that >> but then you confirm that that's they they stood that's what they they stood for. >> didn't say that. so >> no, no, i didn't say that. so let again. let me say it again. >> i'll say again so that i >> i'll say it again so that i can that there's difference. >> labour would like to have a world without nuclear weapons, and would and i imagine most of us would have. the way to get there have. but the way to get there is not by unilaterally dropping the not. the arms. definitely not. it's a dangerous it's dangerous fantasy and it's a fantasy that plays straight into the people vladimir the arms of people like vladimir putin, kim jong un, china. >> laughing us and >> they're laughing at us and we're floundering about we're kind of floundering about . we is strong . what we need is strong leadership, not these philosophical debates in great times global trouble. well times of global trouble. well i don't agree with that at all. >> first of all, who ultimately thinks weapons are thinks nuclear weapons are a good allows us to kill good thing allows us to kill hundreds thousands people hundreds of thousands of people in day . but secondly, in a single day. but secondly, the labour government last time around retained trident. the labour opposition is committed to retaining trident. >> if we lived in a world, there is no fantasy. but if we lived

in a world of kind of universal veganism, sandal wearing, you know, nobody had any weapons then great. but we don't live in that world. we live in a world where the bad guys are armed to the it or not, we the teeth and like it or not, we have fight fire with fire. have to fight fire with fire. nobody likes nuclear weapons, okay? a necessity. okay? but they are a necessity. and know , the concept of and you know, the concept of disarming unilaterally or even as a nation, which corbyn wanted , is insanity. >> but no one is suggesting that it is certain trident we retained because the two parties that want to form the next government, tory and labour , government, tory and labour, have both committed to retaining trident. will have both committed to retaining tri> well , i be retained. >> well, i mean look, i was reading that was something reading that that was something they supporting. i'm very they were supporting. i'm very pleased they are pleased to hear if they are being serious it, pleased to hear if they are being serious it , that being serious about it, that they're not going to do that. i'm concerned can't think i'm concerned that i can't think of who would of another candidate who would actually the for actually do the job for the labour and neither labour party, and neither can you of wallace . you in place of ben wallace. >> think really >> and i think it's really dangerous handing jobs. >> i don't it's dangerous >> i don't think it's dangerous to handing out jobs. it's to start handing out jobs. it's good to try and envisage who would think good to try and envisage who would are think good to try and envisage who would are very think good to try and envisage who would are very clever think good to try and envisage who would are very clever in think good to try and envisage who would are very clever in that< labour are very clever in that they don't want to say anything

about i can see about anything, but i can see why, 1983 one of why, because in 1983 when one of their said that they why, because in 1983 when one of their the said that they why, because in 1983 when one of their the longestthat they why, because in 1983 when one of their the longest suicidey why, because in 1983 when one of their the longest suicide note wrote the longest suicide note in about in history, they're about to do it again every they open it again every time they open their mouths. but if you just join me, welcome on board. i'm nana is gb news on tv nana akua. this is gb news on tv onune nana akua. this is gb news on tv online and on radio. on online and on digital radio. on the somebody the way. fine somebody standing up oil up to just stop oil home secretary braverman secretary suella braverman suella and nature secretary suella braverman sueiwritten and nature secretary suella braverman sueiwritten to and nature secretary suella braverman sueiwritten to sir and nature secretary suella braverman sueiwritten to sir keir and nature secretary suella braverman sueiwritten to sir keir starmer|re has written to sir keir starmer exposing labour's links with the eco let's eco warriors. but now let's check out some weather . the check out some weather. the temperatures rising , boxt solar, temperatures rising, boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office julys . by the met office julys. relatively showery theme will be continuing over the next few days. low pressure is gradually pushing its way off towards the north, so the winds will be easing. the time being, easing. but for the time being, southern of scotland down easing. but for the time being, sout north—east)f scotland down easing. but for the time being, sout north—east england1d down easing. but for the time being, sout north—east england couldvn into north—east england could still some blustery winds still see some blustery winds into this evening. into the start of this evening. some spells of rain for some longer spells of rain for northern and western scotland. elsewhere, thunderstorm and elsewhere, the thunderstorm and

heavy have seen will heavy showers we have seen will slowly be their way out slowly be easing their way out and underneath some those and underneath some of those clearer temperatures will and underneath some of those clea drop temperatures will and underneath some of those clea drop downzmperatures will and underneath some of those clea drop down to peratures will and underneath some of those clea drop down to aroundes will and underneath some of those clea drop down to around 11,vill just drop down to around 11, 12 c. overnight might drop into single figures in some rural spots as well . it does, though, spots as well. it does, though, mean that we'll see a decent amount of sunshine first thing on monday morning, but we will then see those scattered showers developing as head developing once again as we head throughout day, particularly throughout the day, particularly for eastern central, south eastern areas england . some eastern areas of england. some of be quite in of those could be quite heavy in nature, maybe some nature, maybe with some thunderstorms and some thunderstorms again. and some hail also but there hail possible. also but there will be some sunshine in between those scattered showers. and with winds compared to with winds lighter compared to the it will feel the weekend, it will just feel that warmer. temperatures . that bit warmer. temperatures. ranging between 18 and 23 c for tuesday, though , we have to tuesday, though, we have to watch as our next low pressure centre is going to push its way in turning in from the west. so turning quite on quite damp first thing on tuesday for northern tuesday morning for northern ireland. and that rain will then steadily into steadily progress its way into parts wales, parts of northern wales, northern scotland northern england and scotland later far south—east, later on the far south—east, generally staying drier. but there still chance there is still the chance of further showers do head

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ben wallace and this is what you've saying. says, you've been saying. ian says, hi nana. ben wallace has nana. i believe ben wallace has been government's plans, been the government's plans, seeing government's seeing the government's plans for destroying our military capability. yeah, i think that could be to be honest. could be really, to be honest. that's isn't it? that's probably it isn't it? they're cutting that's probably it isn't it? the down cutting that's probably it isn't it? the down and cutting that's probably it isn't it? thedown and everything,ting that's probably it isn't it? thedown and everything, linden all down and everything, linden says. ben wallace leaving defence tragic news. the defence is tragic news. he's the only government at only decent one in government at this time. david says this moment in time. david says ben wallace a great loss, ben wallace is a great loss, difficult replace. so much difficult to replace. so much disconnection the top. we disconnection at the top. we need a prime minister with a backbone. need a prime minister with a backbone . i think any one of us backbone. i think any one of us could it, actually. i think could do it, actually. i think i'd for it actually, as it i'd be up for it actually, as it goes. but if you just join me, welcome. let's on the welcome. let's move on to the next now. has next topic now. the uk has formally agreed to the formally agreed to become the first european country to join a major trade bloc. first european country to join a maj

about 1.6 billion a year. so joining me to discuss, martin daubney and also peter edwards . daubney and also peter edwards. martin, is this good news? >> it's for fantastic news for britain. and one of the great myths of brexit was that brexiteers were little englanders. you know , parochial englanders. you know, parochial with eyes only on our own honzon with eyes only on our own horizon and actual fact. we said all the time we should be looking beyond the limits of the eu. and by the way, the remainer lies that the sky would fall and that locusts would sweep over the channel and destroy , leaving the channel and destroy, leaving only bones and union flags is a complete myth. we know that imports and exports to the eu have increased in terms of monetary value with inflationary adjustments. it's basically the same. so we haven't lost any trade imports or exports with the eu. so this is a pure cherry on the cake , the kind of thing on the cake, the kind of thing the eu said we couldn't have. and being a member of the eu means we couldn't have done this. so at 1.8 billion per year boost to the economy is

fantastic news. that will cover things like inheritance tax going away. so it's great news for britain and i think it's a real kind of one in the eye for the remainers who told us that the remainers who told us that the world would end when we voted to leave the eu. >> well, what about the notion that people are saying only that people are saying it's only 0.08% over years is 0.08% of gdp over ten years is all would do for us. so it's all it would do for us. so it's not deal after all. not such a big deal after all. >> in addition >> so it's in addition to unaffected terms of unaffected trade in terms of monetary with the eu , we monetary value with the eu, we were told that would end were told that that would end overnight. it didn't. it hasn't. it's remained and is it's remained stable and this is a bonus on top. time a pure bonus on top. it's time to rejoice . to rejoice. >> peter, i've got to give credit to martin because he's consistent he's upbeat consistent and he's an upbeat advocate for his cause . but it's advocate for his cause. but it's not the cherry on a cake. i think it's a cherry on a tiny, rotting biscuit. the obr has said the economy will be 4% smaller, and we've got back 0.1, nought point one. i hope you're all celebrating at home. is that 0.1. >> nought point. nought eight actually. oh quite one. >> i was rounding up to be kind but hang on hang on peter.

>> but that's it is a bonus >> but but that's it is a bonus because think of the potential 500 million people or is it billion people . if 500 million billion people. if 500 million people, that's lot people. people, that's a lot of people. that's potential that's a lot of potential trading partners, right now. what things what we perceive now, things can change. got change. you've got you've got people america are on people like america who are on the edges of it. >> no deal with america. >> no deal with america. >> hang on. they're on the >> no, hang on. they're on the edges. and edges. they're looking in. and china, as we china, who are applying as we speak, with america, but speak, no deal with america, but china are applying as we speak. well might be talking well i think we might be talking later how we're already later about how we're already in an information and cold war with china. >> so there's i mean, i think we've all got very mixed feelings about closer economic ties. course, we need to ties. but of course, we need to grow economy. but going back grow the economy. but going back to you seeing to your point, you know, seeing it positive, if you shrink it as a positive, if you shrink by 4% as we are forecast to, and then grow back by 0.08, but that has not terribly good news. but the 4% shrink hasn't happened . the 4% shrink hasn't happened. >> every every sort of. no every armageddon situation apocalyptic scenario that the project fear and remainers put forward hasn't happened.the and remainers put forward hasn't happened. the facts are the facts, peter. we have stability

in terms of imports and exports with the eu . smile all you like. with the eu. smile all you like. the facts are on the table and this is in addition to that. so we didn't lose our trading access or our status with the eu. that was a total lie. and this is a growing market, a younger market, a more vibrant market than the shrinking eu . market than the shrinking eu. and so as a consequence of that, this is a fantastic piece of trade and it paves the way for other trade deals in the future. and that was what brexit was always about , looking to the always about, looking to the global arena , looking beyond the global arena, looking beyond the chains of the eu and being bright and optimistic and looking to the future rather than, hey, we're stuck with the eu , which by the way, is eu, which by the way, is shrinking. so it has real terms trade the rest of the world trade with the rest of the world outside the eu, risen or fallen since the vote this well , the since the vote this well, the global market has been annihilated by covid lockdowns that were willed on by by all of the parties. and yet no doubt remainers will pin that on brexit. a comet could strike the earth and remainers would blame

brexit. >> brexit is a comet strike striking striking the earth. >> the economic data is searched. i've just laid out, which, you know , we have more or which, you know, we have more or less parity with . less parity with. >> uh, before i asked about the rest of the world, you didn't answer that question. >> the apocalypse. you predicted never occurred. i have not. never occurred. >> and the apocalypse, this kind of deal is precisely the evidence we want that people out there want to do business with there want to do business with the united kingdom , which the united kingdom, which project fear, the remainers told us, would not happen. >> we'd be gravely damaged. we'd be below the water. that be holed below the water. that was the lie. the fact of the matter is here we optimistic matter is here we are optimistic with a multi—billion pound deal. and funny how even you and isn't it funny how even you said, it's only £1.8 said, oh god, it's only £1.8 billion? well, i'll tell you what. take the after what. take me to the bar after this billion. this and give us £1.8 billion. peter i will happily take you out for a drink a marks out for a drink or a marks spencer sandwich the road. spencer sandwich over the road. >> sandwiches are >> other sandwiches are available. go available. but look, let's go back economic figures, available. but look, let's go backof economic figures, available. but look, let's go backof all, economic figures, available. but look, let's go backof all, becauseic figures, available. but look, let's go backof all, becauseic thinkes, first of all, because i think that's important thing. that's the most important thing. so answered my so you've not answered my question we've answered enlighteners we've not answered my global trade . my question about global trade. and john,

and then finally, john, enlighten and forecast. enlighten us and the forecast. the 4% reduction is the forecast 4% reduction is from the independent obr. it's not from from eating liberal forecast remainers in islington did you say independent obe the obr ? obr? >> the people who keep getting predictions wrong. all the time? yeah. >> those economic, those ones they keep listen, they keep making mistakes all the time. >> they're official >> they're the official forecast. be, but forecast. they may well be, but they it they keep officially getting it wrong and they're officially pessimistic and they're continually pessimistic. pessimistic and they're continu.bankessimistic. pessimistic and they're continu.bank of;imistic. pessimistic and they're continu.bank of england, the bank >> the bank of england, the bank of england pessimists about of england were pessimists about brexit. wrong . you brexit. they were wrong. you know, these these figures are wrong. the reality the figures on table , peter, show us we on the table, peter, show us we have parity with the eu. the disaster never came. >> well, again , martin has not >> well, again, martin has not answer my question. it's up to him because not my show. him because it's not my show. but not answer the but martin's not answer the question have trade question you have about trade with the rest of the world. trade down in real terms. trade up or down in real terms. >> a trade prediction. >> you have a trade prediction. so tell us what it is. >> we'll answer the question. go on. answer peter. on. you answer it. peter. >> we're going to go >> singers we're not going to go down. how down. i can't remember how much you you're saying gone you say you're saying it's gone down. >> so a full amount. you've

>> so not a full amount. you've got the specifics, it's gone got the specifics, but it's gone down a is down a little bit or a lot. is it or a lot? it a little bit or a lot? >> i can't remember. i'll tell you next time. >> okay. so no point asking the question. know the question. you don't know the answer. could have told anything. >> given the anyway, >> given the answer. anyway, i think is clinging the think martin is clinging to the figure the reality. figure about the reality. real terms only. terms trade with the eu only. but with the whole but we trade with the whole world, the eu. world, not just with the eu. >> but why are you so pessimistic? this is a wonderful opportunity. people opportunity. 500 million people make well make the best of it. well listen. is, listen. and the good thing is, hopefully will done before hopefully it will be done before the that they are the conservatives that they are voted then brexit will voted down and then brexit will be it'll set in stone, be well, it'll be set in stone, which good because does which is good because it does kind from now kind of stop people us from now trying back into eu. trying to get back into the eu. so finally, very briefly, i think another myth. think there's another myth. >> of myths, as >> there are lots of myths, as martin about brexit, but martin said, about brexit, but there's myth people who there's a myth that people who offer are somehow offer a critique are somehow either referendum either want another referendum or back by or want to take us back in by the back door. reality is i the back door. the reality is i accept result. i don't think accept the result. i don't think there'll referendum there'll be another referendum for years, possibly not for 30 or 40 years, possibly not in lifetime. it's for in my lifetime. but it's bad for britain and there are independent britain and there are indya endent britain and there are indya new nt britain and there are indya new trade deal. access >> a new trade deal. that access is a brexit. is a 500 brexit. >> brexit. >> brexit. >> no, no. listen we've >> no, no, no. listen we've listen. to honest you listen. to be honest with you and got to be i've got

and i've got to be i've got to be quick this. but to be be quick with this. but to be honest with you, i think a lot of people call people who voted brexit on so brexit racist and so on and so forth honest. what forth would be honest. what we've down we've done is closed down a loophole enabled mostly we've done is closed down a loophypeople enabled mostly we've done is closed down a loophypeople torabled mostly we've done is closed down a loophypeople to come mostly we've done is closed down a loophypeople to come to ostly we've done is closed down a loophypeople to come to this' white people to come to this country without any real kind of any or anything like any real visa or anything like that. we've to that. and we've opened up to a global trade people from all global trade of people from all over world, think over the world, and i think that's thing. well, i've that's a good thing. well, i've never racist for never called anyone racist for voting a of voting brexit, but a lot of people that. to be people have said that. and to be honest, a really good honest, this is a really good thing it opens this thing because it opens this country to the rest the country to the rest of the world, and that cannot be bad if you just join welcome. this you just join me. welcome. this is on tv online and on is gb news on tv online and on digital someone digital radio. finally, someone standing oil. standing up to just stop oil. home suella braverman home secretary suella braverman has keir starmer has written to keir starmer expose with eco expose labour's links with eco warriors . just stop oil and then warriors. just stop oil and then we'll be discussing new developments in the uk. we're facing roadblocks unless local councils implement net facing roadblocks unless local couninitiatives. implement net facing roadblocks unless local couninitiatives. that'sement net facing roadblocks unless local couninitiatives. that's allent net facing roadblocks unless local couninitiatives. that's all on net zero initiatives. that's all on the your latest news the way after your latest news headunes. headlines. >> nana. thank you . the top >> nana. thank you. the top stories this hour. the uk has become the first european

country to formally join the indo—pacific trade bloc , indo—pacific trade bloc, potentially creating access to £12 trillion worth of global business as well. the business and trade secretary , kemi and trade secretary, kemi badenoch, who's in auckland , new badenoch, who's in auckland, new zealand to sign the deal, says it will bring british businesses, businesses a step closer to selling to a market of 500 million people. plus, with fewer barriers, some everyday items from countries within the bloc, such as australia . ugg bloc, such as australia. ugg boots, for example, should become cheaper for consumers. it's estimated the agreement will come into effect towards the end of next year. will come into effect towards the end of next year . the home the end of next year. the home secretary has published a letter to keir starmer claiming a labour staffer met with just stop oil and extinction rebellion activists in private meetings , suella braverman meetings, suella braverman claimed that internal memos from just stop oil showed mp jess morton met with the environmental groups to sell them on how labour is still dnven them on how labour is still driven by the environment. the home secretary's called for the sacking of ms morton. just stop

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way, the tories could tear up inheritance tax as part of their manifesto . plus, we'll be manifesto. plus, we'll be discussing loads of stuff with regard to suella braverman and just stop oil. all of this after that.

radio. >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 38 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. and now we're moving on. we're going head to head in a clash of minds. joining me to do that, martin daubney and also i've that, martin daubney and also pve your that, martin daubney and also i've your peter i've forgotten your name, peter ofsted. peter edwards. right. listen, if you're just tuned in, welcome. the tories could tear up inheritance tax as part of its manifesto pledge. in a push to win more before the to win more votes before the next election . next general election. supporters argue policy supporters argue the policy could be a game changer in the south, conservatives are south, where conservatives are defending constituency is vulnerable the opposition. vulnerable to the opposition. but the cut would set the

treasury back a whopping 7 billion a year. so will the removal of inheritance tax make you vote ? tory? let's see what you vote? tory? let's see what my panel make of that. joining me that, martin daubney gb me to do that, martin daubney gb news, former mep news, contributor and former mep and peter edwards. he's a former editor the labourlist at editor of the labourlist at peter himars. i'll start with editor of the labourlist at pete inheritance ll start with editor of the labourlist at pete inheritance tax. art with editor of the labourlist at pet well, ritance tax. art with editor of the labourlist at pet well, itance tax. art with editor of the labourlist at pet well, i don't tax. art with editor of the labourlist at pet well, i don't think't with editor of the labourlist at petwell, i don't think itnith editor of the labourlist at petwell, i don't think it will >> well, i don't think it will be abolished know as a be abolished and i know as a labour person you'd me to labour person you'd expect me to kind lot what the kind of criticise a lot what the government i honestly kind of criticise a lot what the goverthis nt i honestly kind of criticise a lot what the goverthis nt completely honestly kind of criticise a lot what the goverthis nt completely barmy.y think this is completely barmy. i bad i think it would be bad politics. i think it's desperation. i'd he is paid by about 4% of people. so by definition they're the most affluent families in the country. i think it would be well, not well. >> i think a lot of people fall into it, though. >> under 4. >> under 4. >> well , no, no, no. but >> under 4. >> well, no, no, no. but you >> under 4. >> well , no, no, no. but you say >> well, no, no, no. but you say that. but that's a very broad brush of a statistic. and i've heard lot of people who are heard a lot of people who are paying heard a lot of people who are paying of people paying for it. a lot of people fall it because of the fall into it because of the threshold and because of obviously, inflation the obviously, inflation and the threshold, which is only at 325,000. it 325,000. if labour got in, it would be about 120 something thousand well, that's thousand pounds. well, that's what proposal what that was a proposal on their . their manifesto. >> cameron government >> the david cameron government

made lot changes to made quite a lot of changes to the so typically , and the iht rules. so typically, and i won't run through it all, but it takes up to million. if it takes up to £1 million. if you're married you're you're married and you're leaving it to a direct family member a child or member like a child or a grandchild, if you're giving it to someone else, doesn't to someone else, that doesn't apply. to go back to apply. but just to go back to sunak, why think sunak, the reason why i think it's borderline madness and won't is exactly the won't happen is exactly the reasons that we've been talking about. tax cut for the about. it's a tax cut for the richest. i also it richest. and i also think it opens a big labour attack opens up a big labour attack line about a tax cut for the richest and then billionaire richest and then the billionaire families who own a lot of retail oil and these kind of historic country houses, who put family in trusts and put money in trusts. and i think labour will enjoy having an argument about that as well. >> think just >> so i think it will just be part of you is slightly excluding your argument by saying people put saying that the rich people put their trust. you're their stuff in trust. you're saying really saying that they don't really get out them get any money out of them anyway, point of it? >> well, no, they do. >> well, no, they do. >> do. no no. but. so what >> they do. no no. but. so what was your point? what was your point? you're then? if point? you're making then? if you're saying they're putting them saying them in trust, you're saying that paying that they're not actually paying the that they

the inheritance tax that they should be paying. >> saying something slightly >> i'm saying something slightly different. i there's different. i mean, there's a whole about the use of whole issue about the use of trusts families, trusts by billionaire families, which not which the government has not gone for gone after. but i think for rishi sunak, it would be rishi sunak, i think it would be a own goal. a political own goal. and i think labour would enjoy attacking 12 months attacking him in the 12 months before the election tax before the election for a tax cut the richest. it's not cut for the richest. it's not a tax the richest because tax cut for the richest because the people, the richest people, as you as you stated, have clever accountants to accountants and know how to shift money and shift their money around and they to avoid they know how to avoid inheritance tax. they know how to avoid inhythe nce tax.who getting >> the people who are getting swept into this are property rich aren't savvy, rich people who aren't savvy, who and who aren't switched on and aren't because the aren't cash rich because the threshold and threshold is sweeping. more and more year, more people in every year, because prices because property prices are going because inflationary going up because of inflationary measures. as a consequence, we've france, this is a we've seen in france, this is a terribly which terribly cruel policy which affects without, you affects pensioners without, you know, of money on paper, know, a lot of money on paper, but their their asset, know, a lot of money on paper, but their their asset , their but their their asset, their property is stripped away . and, property is stripped away. and, you in you know, in, in, in democracies, liberal democracies that people on the left aspire to such as canada, new to be like such as canada, new zealand, , india and zealand, austria, india and norway. they have 0% inheritance tax because this money has been taxed entire life. every single penny that you that you have at death has been taxed in every

way possible throughout your entire life. it's an additional tax. it's a mean spirited tax . tax. it's a mean spirited tax. and actually, i think it will be a vote winner in the blue wall. a lot of wavering tories were fed up with where the party is going. they might be thinking about going to the liberal democrats or greens. this will play democrats or greens. this will play not only into play straight not only into property owners hands, their property owners hands, but their children's hands. that's millions of people. >> and as i said earlier , the >> and as i said earlier, the labour party, i have read parts of proposal for of their proposal for inheritance tax it lowers inheritance tax and it lowers the threshold by some £200,000, which would bring in more people in the red wall into that bracket, which may well take more money, then might more money, but then it might put who potentially put off people who potentially would them. do you would vote for them. do you not see that that that is. >> well, until we have the labour we can't say labour manifesto, we can't say for one for definite, but that was one of their proposals. for definite, but that was one of tso r proposals. for definite, but that was one of tso that's)sals. for definite, but that was one of tso that's what one their >> so that's what one of their proposals was. >> proposal >> well, they're in proposal phase they're >> well, they're in proposal phthe they're >> well, they're in proposal phthe opposition. they're >> well, they're in proposal phthe opposition. but they're >> well, they're in proposal phthe opposition. but to they're >> well, they're in proposal phthe opposition. but to be ey're in the opposition. but to be honest, think chances of honest, i think the chances of this being the tory this actually being the tory manifesto to zero, manifesto are close to zero, because i think the only thing we agree that shores because i think the only thing we the agree that shores because i think the only thing we the tory; that shores because i think the only thing we the tory corethat shores because i think the only thing we the tory core vote. shores because i think the only thing we the tory core vote. right. s

up the tory core vote. right. but rishi sunak. well, not necessarily because strategy wouldn't allow him to form government. >> i don't think it is about the core vote. this is a block of the vote. the tories have always taken and now they taken for granted and now they can't can't take it for can't they can't take it for granted. elections are about granted. and elections are about giveaways . corbyn did the same giveaways. corbyn did the same with fees . so did with with tuition fees. so did nick clegg. at least they know they this. you know, they can afford this. you know, corbyn hadn't even corbyn and clegg hadn't even costed tuition fees, but it's costed up tuition fees, but it's about giveaways. come general election labour election time, and if the labour party do attacking this party do start attacking this policy , i think that would be policy, i think that would be politically savvy by sunak because will force storm into because he will force storm into the open as a party of anti aspiration, party of anti aspiration, a party of anti growth. if you work hard and do the right thing and build a property, even one house up and the labour is going to labour party going away party is going to snatch it away from the fangs of from you, it's the fangs of socialism. sorry. socialism. i'm sorry. >> for what you've >> come in for what you've earned. really sorry for earned. i i'm really sorry for interrupting, true interrupting, but it's not true because coalition changes . because the coalition changes. >> not sorry. >> not sorry. >> last time. be polite. people disagree. but the coalition changes were designed to mitigate what martin's just set

out. so the idea that a future government is going to come in and take away the ordinary family home is just for the birds. >> why is it i mean, in terms of david cameron increased the thresholds in terms of the proportion that's taken out of death, are saying you death, are you saying are you saying that labour saying to me that the labour party wouldn't wouldn't even contemplate party wouldn't wouldn't even contemplatytax? that's an idea. inheritance tax? that's an idea. that's course that's for the birds. of course they they've about they will. they've talked about they will. they've talked about they an they won't do it before an election that would a election because that would be a complete off for, for the complete turn off for, for the aspirational middle classes , aspirational middle classes, which now actually labour which now actually the labour party increasingly dependent party is increasingly dependent upon don't upon the working classes don't vote labour anymore. so a lot of people who vote labour are actually in this bracket of living places like oxford, living in places like oxford, cambridge. this is actually a policy that will appear appeal to asset rich people who live in metropolitan areas whose houses are worth a packet and they're going to think actually this is quite tempting for me to go for. so it's a great idea to fly out there even if it doesn't become policy , it still says we are the policy, it still says we are the party of aspiration. and if you oppose it. keir starmer, you're the party of grasping my assets

at my point of death . at my point of death. >> hm so, martin, i think i think you're flying over reality from 10,000, 10,000ft just to pick one point from the several you made, which don't really all stack up . it's not a costed stack up. it's not a costed proposal . proposal. >> it was 7 billion. no no, costed means paying for it. >> you can put a price on everything. a costed proposal is one funding it. so one where you're funding it. so it to the times it was a briefing to the times that splashed the times yesterday. wasn't yesterday. there wasn't an indication of how it'd be indication really of how it'd be paid government is now paid for government debt is now over trillion. i'd like the over £2 trillion. i'd like the labour party to come forward and say what they would do with inheritance tax because the last thing said was that they inheritance tax because the last thing loweraid was that they inheritance tax because the last thing lower the vas that they inheritance tax because the last thing lower the threshold.ey would lower the threshold. >> the thing and >> so that's the last thing and that bringing it down that was bringing it down to just £100,000, £125,000. so just over £100,000, £125,000. so this reading . i this is what i was reading. i went to have a look around about that i'm sure the that figure. i'm not sure the exact number but was that figure. i'm not sure the exacthe|mber but was that figure. i'm not sure the exacthe majority but was that figure. i'm not sure the exacthe majority of but was that figure. i'm not sure the exacthe majority of homeowners, just the majority of homeowners, most even you're most homeowners, even if you're in where house in the red wall where house pnces in the red wall where house prices cheaper, prices are somewhat cheaper, although inflation pushing although inflation is pushing everything house everything up, including house prices. although it'll be interesting to see what happens with that. and with regard to that. and interest rates. but the bottom

line is this. if labour party are i think are planning to do that, i think that'd be very, very unpopular. well hear what well i'd like to hear what they're i think it would they're not and i think it would be a very bad move politically if into election if they go into election promising iht and promising to hike iht and they're not daft. >> i don't think they will. >> i don't think they will. >> it's almost as >> well, it's almost as intelligence their to intelligence as their move to close private schools close down all private schools or not labour policy . or or that's not labour policy. no, no it's not labour policy increase . so take the increase. so take away the charitable status of private schools, which would amount to that in many cases . that in many cases. >> no, no it wouldn't, because that. >> no, it would do. i've been reading about it. in fact, i did a piece on it yesterday. a whole piece on it yesterday. it predicted, ifs said it was predicted, the ifs said that it would be between 3 to 7% of people send their kids to of people who send their kids to these private schools would withdraw if they withdraw them. but if they got those calculations wrong, then it end with some it could end up with some closures. and actually had closures. and i've actually had lots messages from lots and lots of messages from people yesterday people on twitter even yesterday telling how one lady who, you telling me how one lady who, you know, have basically know, labour have basically misunderstood what a private school are imagining school is and they are imagining eton where there are small schools that with special schools that deal with special needs well. there's another needs as well. there's another one of their policies. >> think your stat was 3%

>> so i think your stat was 3% of 3 to 7. okay. so that was the ifs stuff. okay so pick the one in the middle 5, a withdrawal of 5% pupils when some of them are oversubscribed is not going to shut down. no, no, no , no. shut down. no, no, no, no. >> i didn't say that. and i agree with you. i didn't say that. i said that. if they've got that wrong, if that stat is wrong and there's lot more, wrong and there's a lot more, then of people will then a lot of people will find themselves and it will force schools and will affect schools and it will affect individuals see it individuals anyway. so see it like think is a it will like that i think is a it will force out who are just force out those who are just about their kids about managing to get their kids into private schools by sacrificing they've got. >> and it won't affect the etonians won't affect the etonians and it won't affect the chinese who etonians and it won't affect the chir afford who etonians and it won't affect the chir afford to who etonians and it won't affect the chir afford to pay who etonians and it won't affect the chir afford to pay treble. who etonians and it won't affect the chirafford to pay treble. it who can afford to pay treble. it will out will squeeze out the aspirational working classes. >> won't that very >> well, it won't do that very briefly, the inflation briefly, because the inflation hikes school hikes and independent school fees that fees have already shown that there of basically there is some kind of basically elasticity demand. small elasticity of demand. so a small price not to price change is not going to lead collapse in revenue lead to a collapse in revenue for schools. for public schools. >> well, they haven't added the other well. there'll other bit as well. so there'll be change plus be a small price change plus that it's not just that as well. it's not just going be one that will going to be one thing that will add that. that will add on to that. that will be double then is what i think

we're envisaging a i'm not envisaging she's not going to come. well, ipsis well, dystopian as in that. dystopian future as in that. well, if we're intelligent enough, elect no, enough, we won't elect them. no, i'm just saying that right now. enough, we won't elect them. no, i'mean, saying that right now. enough, we won't elect them. no, i'mean, sayi|mean. right now. enough, we won't elect them. no, i'mean, sayi|mean. right.1ow. enough, we won't elect them. no, i'mean, sayi|mean. right. well, i mean, how mean. right. well, let's in an effort to let's move on in an effort to promote sustainability in the housing sector sector, new developments in the uk are facing roadblocks. local facing roadblocks. unless local councils implement councils agree to implement green initiatives as ulez green initiatives such as ulez and neighbourhoods . now it and ltn neighbourhoods. now it comes with new rules to ensure housing meets net zero targets are causing much concern for brits. under new proposals, people will be from people will be blocked from letting unless they letting properties unless they upgrade to meet energy efficiency targets as soon as 2028. let's go over to my 2028. so let's go over to my panel 2028. so let's go over to my panel, martin daubney and peter edwards. >> martin, what do you make of this is when the mask slips , the this is when the mask slips, the net zero zealots say it's about salvation. it's about taxation, it's about taking everything you've got in the guise of saving the planet . it's about saving the planet. it's about stopping you driving. it's about getting your old car off the road, which affects the poorest the hardest. we're seeing that in london. there's a massive backlash to sadiq khan's expansion ulez to all of expansion of ulez to all of greater nobody was

greater london. nobody was consulted. figures are consulted. the figures are dubious. he claims 4000 deaths per year. an foi show directly caused by pollution was only one. so there's a lot of debate around the data and now this is nimbyism meets net zero ism. you can't even build a house unless you subscribe to this policy. where we're going to charge you to drive. we're to going close back streets, which actually puts congestion on main roads , puts congestion on main roads, on main roads. typically poorer people live because main roads are cheaper. so therefore you shifting not shifting the problem, you're not stopping . and in stopping the problem. and in terms rural development , terms of rural development, where we the cleanest air where we have the cleanest air since revolution, since the industrial revolution, london's cleaner now than london's air is cleaner now than it was in 1890s because the it was in the 1890s because the background pollution of people burning all that has burning coal and all that has gone. getting cleaner gone. cars are getting cleaner anyway . hey, is a dystopian anyway. hey, this is a dystopian future i think where in the countryside we've all got a cycle around. how do you cycle around if you're a tradesman , an around if you're a tradesman, an if you're a working class worker. >> you can put your ladders on the back of your bike or balance them on your head, on your head. >> what it's about.

>> that's what it's all about. this puritanical this this kind of puritanical ecological worldview crashed into reality and making it more expensive for all of to us live, to eat, to travel and to work and to exist. >> well, ironically, both parties are up to this . so this parties are up to this. so this isn't a party political thing because they're both going for the same thing . the same thing. >> but i'm glad you said that, because is proposal in because this is a proposal in respect authority respect of one local authority by a government quango. i think it's correct it's natural. england do correct me relation to me if i'm wrong in relation to epping which is on epping forest, which is on the border essex london. it's border of essex and london. it's a council, it's a tory controlled council, it's a tory controlled council, it's a proposal stage, as i understand it, it hasn't happened. council i'd happened. and epping council i'd imagine will challenge it. i think there are huge cons there might be some upsides, but i think it probably won't happen. >> and you are right. >> and you are right. >> let's hope so, because in sadiq khan's london, when people don't vote for things they seem to, he just forces them through. >> and you right to say that >> and you are right to say that this uni approach. we this is a uni party approach. we don't political party don't have any political party questioning . questioning this seriously. apart who would apart from reform, who would like to say, actually, let's let's give an alternative to

this. you know, do have this. you know, why do we have to have net zero levies everywhere , particularly to everywhere, particularly to motorists? on motorists? it's a war on motorists? it's a war on motorists and affects the motorists and it affects the poorest, hardest. and i poorest, the hardest. and i think where metropolitan think it's where metropolitan zealotry crashes reality zealotry crashes into reality and the poorest are getting poorer . poorer. >> well, i mean, we've obviously got the as and got the just oil as well and that earlier sir keir starmer claimed that a labour staffer met with just stop oil and extinction rebellion in private meetings and suella braverman has published a letter to sir keir starmer and this is a bit concerning suella braverman claims that the internal memos from just stop oil showed that mp jess morton met with the environmental and says environmental groups and says that the leaked messages prove the labour leader's top commons aides appears to to be have just stop oil links. it so aides appears to to be have just stop oil links . it so obviously stop oil links. it so obviously denies the claim, saying that none of his team have met with the environmental group, but it does seem to there seems to be a general thing here because one of their biggest donors, del vince, is obviously a supporter of just oil of just stop oil >> peter so keir starmer has not met, just stop and the

met, just stop oil and the shadow minister, jess morton, has not met, just stop oil. so that's just on a point of fact. and fact, keir starmer a and in fact, keir starmer is a former ran the cps and former lawyer, ran the cps and repeatedly said you must not break the law by doing protest, for down the road for example, lying down the road , is against the law. and , which is against the law. and it's also wicked it's doing it's also wicked if it's doing things stopping. things like stopping. >> well, we did say >> but he's well, we did say that. is that. so what you've repeated is what and i did say that what i said, and i did say that he has said that he didn't meet them, but but he prepared to them, but but he is prepared to take though, from people take money, though, from people like vince who support like del vince who support them. >> with that ? >> what's wrong with that? >> what's wrong with that? >> indirect sorry, >> well, it's an indirect sorry, what's it taking , dale? what's it taking, dale? >> vince is a british entrepreneur . he >> vince is a british entrepreneur. he made his money from green enterprise. he's a private individual. he gave money to the labour party. what is wrong with taking money from someone in uk who creates someone in the uk who creates jobs and pays taxes well? jobs and pays their taxes well? >> so . so what it what it allows >> so. so what it what it allows us ask is that is this us to ask is that why is this guy donating to a political party? for him ? party? what's in it for him? in the which i agree that the same way, which i agree that property developers donate heavily tory because heavily to the tory because they're they'll they're hoping they'll get something they'll something out of it. they'll vince trousered over £10

vince is trousered over £10 million subsidies for his his million in subsidies for his his sustainable . so if he sustainable energy. so if he donates to the labour party, which by the way politically in terms of their, their goals are totally aligned with just awful look, look at look at the north sea oil drilling sites which the labour party keir starmer floated that he was on a block all that and just baller all that and just a baller saying because that's saying great, because that's what we want to except the people scotland wisely don't people of scotland wisely don't want that because it creates huge of jobs. it creates huge amounts of jobs. it creates energy sovereignty. we energy sovereignty. and if we had the labor party had had half if the labor party had half they'd saying half a brain, they'd be saying 300 north, norway, 300 miles to the north, norway, in the same oil field has a nationalised industry and everyone gets cheap energy in that country instead. let's close it all down and be reliant on imports and stuff from around the world because reliable renewables aren't reliable when the wind drops and when it gets sunny solar panels overheat. we can't rely on renewables when we need them. the most. just stop oil . don't accept that. need them. the most. just stop oil. don't accept that. keir starmer doesn't accept that and i think we're completely entitled to ask why is this

fellow donating millions of pounds to a party which might be giving subsidies to him down giving out subsidies to him down the line ? the line? >> so what is wrong with taking a donation from a british entrepreneur? >> well, i think i think the problem we have with this is it's not a british entrepreneur. it's any british it's not any old british entrepreneur. he has entrepreneur. he is he has a political agenda behind it. and that one would support that is one that would support an getting an agenda which is getting stopping oil and gas stopping north sea oil and gas drilling supporting drilling and supporting just stop are also stop oil who are also a political, politically motivated pressure group. so the problem we have with that is obviously then he is clearly pushing that agenda alongside with them. >> i think is in direct as >> i think these is in direct as well. think these debates are well. i think these debates are as old as the sun and whoever is in opposition. >> is the sun? well >> how old is the sun? well billions years. you don't billions of years. you don't even don't you even know. you don't know you don't old sun don't know how old the sun is. whoever opposition to whoever is in opposition has to raise own funds. raise their own funds. >> whoever is the opposition >> and whoever is the opposition tends to have money tends to have less money to start with governing start with than the governing party. they have party. and obviously they have no all. and tories no power at all. and the tories go through exactly the same thing they're in opposition thing when they're in opposition . there's a of coverage of . there's a lot of coverage of their there's row their donors. there's a big row

about then news papers on about it and then news papers on the opposite side of the political spectrum pull political spectrum try and pull them apart. but this opposition, this different funds them apart. but this opposition, this these fferent funds them apart. but this opposition, this these ffer some of the old donors who >> so some of the old donors who aren't doing much this is aren't really doing much this is somebody who actually has a company who company and a business who watlington anyway, listen, we can talk this. we'll be can talk about this. we'll be talking that well. talking more about that as well. actually if you're just joining us, aboard, is gb us, welcome aboard, this is gb news at digital news on tv online at digital radio. great radio. still to come, my great british this i'm british debate this hour, i'm asking, should george asking, should prince george serve armed forces? serve in the armed forces? breaking centuries of tradition, the princess of wales the prince and princess of wales have that young prince have decided that young prince george expected george will not be expected to serve before serve in the military before becoming . instead, becoming monarch. instead, prince william will be determined for his son to shape his own destiny. plus, stay tuned it's mystery tuned at 5:00, it's my mystery outside want to outside guest you might want to be thinking outside of the box . be thinking outside of the box. this is a clue to guess who he might spent his younger might be. he spent his younger years making into the years making his way into the world athletics, excelling at world of athletics, excelling at running hurdles, pole vaulting and loads more. all of that after your latest weather . the after your latest weather. the temperatures are rising. >> boxed suella proud sponsors

of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. july's relatively showery theme will be continuing over the next few days. low pressure is gradually pushing its way off towards the north, so the winds will be easing. for the time being, easing. but for the time being, southern areas scotland down easing. but for the time being, soutnorth—east scotland down easing. but for the time being, sout north—east england1d down into north—east england could still blustery winds still see some blustery winds into the start of this evening. some longer of rain for some longer spells of rain for northern western scotland. northern and western scotland. elsewhere, thunderstorms and elsewhere, the thunderstorms and heavy we have seen will heavy showers we have seen will slowly way out. slowly be easing their way out. and underneath of those and underneath some of those clearer skies, temperatures will just around 11, just drop down to around 11, 12 c overnight. might drop into single figures in some rural spots as well. it does , though, spots as well. it does, though, mean that we'll see a decent amount of sunshine first thing on morning , amount of sunshine first thing on morning, but we will on monday morning, but we will then see those scattered showers developing once again as we head throughout particularly throughout the day, particularly for central , south for eastern central, south eastern areas england. some eastern areas of england. some of heavy of those could be quite heavy in nature, maybe with some thunderstorms again and some hail also. but there

hail possible also. but there will be some sunshine in between those scattered showers and with winds lighter compared to the weekend, will that weekend, it will just feel that bit ranging bit warmer. temperatures ranging between 18 and 23 c. for tuesday, though, we have to watch as our next low pressure centre is going to push its way in from the west. so turning quite damp first thing on tuesday morning for northern ireland. rain then ireland. and that rain will then steadily progress way into steadily progress its way into parts wales, parts of northern wales, northern scotland northern england and scotland later south—east, northern england and scotland later stayingouth—east, northern england and scotland later staying drier�*east, northern england and scotland later staying drier . ast, northern england and scotland later staying drier . but generally staying drier. but there is still the chance of further showers we head further showers as we do head towards the of the week. further showers as we do head towa by the of the week. further showers as we do head towa by the temperatureszek. further showers as we do head towa by the temperatures rising, bye. by the temperatures rising, boxed suella proud sponsors of weather on . gb news fabulous weather on. gb news fabulous watlington. >> stay tuned. loads more still to come in the next hour.

good afternoon. hello and welcome. this is gb news on tv, onune welcome. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking you on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. show all right now. this show is all about it's mine , it's about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. course it's theirs. and of course it's yours. be debating, yours. we'll be debating, discussing, we will discussing, and at times we will disagree, but no one be disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also author and campaigner for children in care, chris wild . campaigner for children in care, chris wild. but campaigner for children in care, chris wild . but before we get chris wild. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines . news headlines. >> good afternoon to you. it is a minute past four. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. the uk has become the first european country to formally join the indo pacific trade bloc, potentially creating access to £12 trillion worth of global

business. >> the business and trade secretary, kemi badenoch says the deal will bring british companies a step closer to selling to a market of 500 million people. with fewer barriers. some everyday items from countries within the bloc, such as australian ugg boots, for example, should become cheaper for consumers. it's estimated the agreement will come into effect towards the end of 2024. nigel huddleston, the international trade minister , international trade minister, told gb news the deal will help told gb news the deal will help to grow the uk economy , talking to grow the uk economy, talking about billions of pounds of additional economic activity right across the country. >> it will benefit every nation and region of the uk, not just about where we are now, but where this could go in the future as well, because we expect the membership of cptpp to expand over the coming years. so i wouldn't be too obsessed with the current numbers . this with the current numbers. this is about the potential growth for economy. is about the potential growth for the onomy. is about the potential growth for the labour leader , sir >> well, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says the trade dealis keir starmer, says the trade deal is a start, more is deal is a start, but more is needed. >> any trade is good. >> any trade deal is good. i wouldn't call this one massive,

but it's certainly not a plan for growth and the problem is we've not had a plan for growth for 13 years under this government . we still haven't got government. we still haven't got a plan for growth . so, yes, a plan for growth. so, yes, look, trade deal is always look, a trade deal is always a step in the right direction. but this not a plan for growth. this is not a plan for growth. and it's that failure to have a plan growth that's left us plan for growth that's left us in mess that we're in. >> the home secretary has published a letter to sir keir starmer claiming a labour staffer private meetings staffer had private meetings with representatives from just stop oil and extinction rebellion . suella braverman is rebellion. suella braverman is claiming internal memos from just stop oil show how the mp jess morton met the environmental groups to convince them how labour is still driven by the environment. the home secretary called for the sacking of ms morton , but sir keir of ms morton, but sir keir starmer has rebuffed those claims, saying none his team claims, saying none of his team are . just stop oil. the are meeting. just stop oil. the environmental group, though, tweeted a response , claiming tweeted a response, claiming suella inventing suella braverman is inventing stories to distract from the truth . former soldiers could be truth. former soldiers could be called on to join a reserve force for future crises. the

sunday telegraph is claiming it's part of a planned overhaul of the military, which would reduce the british army to its smallest size since the napoleonic wars. ministers are expected to defend the proposals part of the long awaited defence command paper , insisting the war command paper, insisting the war in ukraine shows how uk forces can become more agile. the army currently consists of more than 75,000 personnel and the papers reporting that the government will announce plans to cut it to 73,000 at least 4000 people have been evacuated as a result of a raging forest fire in spain. the fire in la palma started in a wooded area on the island in the canaries yesterday morning. ten aerial units and 300 firefighters on the ground have been trying to bring the fire under control. at least 13 houses have been destroyed . and houses have been destroyed. and as it's crossed the island, authorities say the fire has affected almost 115,000 acres of land. affected almost 115,000 acres of land . meanwhile, firefighters land. meanwhile, firefighters are still battling a hotel fire

in east sussex over 18 hours after it began with high winds making it even more difficult. emergency services were called to the royal albion hotel , which to the royal albion hotel, which has been reduced to a burnt out shell that was in brighton yesterday evening, while east sussex fire and rescue service say no one's been injured, but people had to be evacuated from nearby buildings because of an extremely challenging set of conditions as significant smoke remains in the atmosphere around the hotel and police have advised the public to stay away . now novak djokovic is on court. currently he's up against carlos alcaraz at the wimbledon men's final. they're into the second set, at least into a tie break. some distinguished guests there as well, the prince and princess of wales have brought their children, prince george and princess charlotte, to the royal box to keep an eye on events. novak djokovic hoping to secure a record equalling . secure a record equalling. eighth title, eighth wimbledon

title. that record is held by roger federer. and i'm just going to let you know that djokovic is a set up six one. he won the first. the second set has gone to a tie break and it is five four to alcaraz . is five four to alcaraz. meanwhile, in another match, 17 year old henry searle has become the first briton to win the wimbledon boys singles title since 1962, beating yaroslav de—man 6464. british actress and singer jane birkin died at the singerjane birkin died at the age of 76in her home in paris. president macron has paid tribute to her. she and has described her as a french icon . described her as a french icon. jane birkin charmed france with her british music and fashion style and her big hit, her british music and fashion style and her big hit , jitem, style and her big hit, jitem, with the late serge gainsborough. the actress was also the inspiration for the hermes birkin designer handbag this is gb news more as it happens throughout the afternoon, but now it's back to

nana. >> thank you, aaron. you're with me. i'm nana akua this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. it's fast approaching seven minutes after 4:00 to all you haters out there, ramona's refuse to accept that brexit has happened and did everything in your power to scupper it or redirect it. you know who you are. some remainers quoting the weekly savings on the brexit bus, laughing in the faces of those who voted to leave patronisingly remarking that we didn't know what we were voting for. hating boris with a vengeance and seeing his demise as an opportunity to turn back the clock . for those of you who the clock. for those of you who couldn't accept the results of a democratic vote and called those who supported it racist, which is odd because brexit removes the privilege from people in the

eu who are mostly caucasian, so white and plus it means that they get an equal footing with people from other nations when trying to enter this country. for all of you, this is a very important and defining step. business secretary kemi badenoch has signed up to a historic treaty to join a £12 trillion international trade bloc and become the first european nation to do so . the conservatives, the to do so. the conservatives, the comprehensive and progressive agreement for the trans—pacific partnership , or cptpp obe. it partnership, or cptpp obe. it was created in 2018 and includes australia, brunei , canada, australia, brunei, canada, chile, japan, malaysia , mexico, chile, japan, malaysia, mexico, new zealand , peru, singapore and new zealand, peru, singapore and vietnam. being a member loosens restrictions on trade between these countries and means reduced tariffs and it covers around about 500 million people. can we said that it placed us at the top table of the indo

pacific group and how the step as the clearest demonstration of yet yet of new new found freedom outside the eu and unlike the deal that we had with the eu, there is no requirement to surrender british sovereignty or be governed by judges sitting in a foreign country. i be governed by judges sitting in a foreign country . i know be governed by judges sitting in a foreign country. i know you might be saying that we have a deal with most of these countries anyway , but this deal countries anyway, but this deal represents close to an alliance with the growing trade bloc rather than a shrinking one. the shrinking one of the eu and getting in there at the start and being an early adopter is a huge benefit. the potential of this relationship is huge with china already applying to join and america sniffing at the edges, economists have described the membership of this 11 country bloc as a massive global event. the uk no longer a member of the eu, can now trade globally without restriction. yes, you heard it. trade globally without having to follow eu rules . hallelujah. follow eu rules. hallelujah. this deal opens up the world and

i know people will be saying that it represents nought point nought 8% of gdp over ten years and that it doesn't replace the eu. but that's not the point. not only would the deal open, major new markets for the uk and ultimately could mean lower pnces ultimately could mean lower prices for many of our household goods, it will make it nigh on impossible to rejoin the eu . so impossible to rejoin the eu. so if the tories do leave office, which is looking more and more likely they will leave it securing brexit by default . well securing brexit by default. well done kemi badenoch and her party for securing the deal which will come into play in 2024. the eu isn't the be all and end all granted geographic be they are the closest. but in this interconnected world, what does that matter for brexit is safe . that matter for brexit is safe. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is

coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, should prince george serve in the forces? serve in the armed forces? breaking centuries of tradition, the prince and princess of wales have decided the young have decided that the young prince george will not be expected serve in the expected to serve in the military becoming monarch military before becoming monarch . instead, william will . instead, prince william will be determined to allow his son to shape his own destiny. then at 450, its worldview will be heading towards the us to get an update on joe biden's. surprisingly large campaign haul ahead of the 2024 election. and we'll be checking in on moscow for the latest and for whether putin's grip on power might finally be loosening. then stay tuned at 5:00 as this week's outside, you might want to be thinking outside the box . yes, thinking outside the box. yes, it's a joke, but it's a pun. the my guest now, he spent his younger years making his way into the world of athletics , into the world of athletics, excelling at running hurdles and pole vaulting. he's estimated to have coached nearly 20,000 people. do you know who he is? keep guessing. that's coming up in the next hour. as ever, tell me what you think on everything

we're discussing. email gb views gbnews.com me at . gb gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. right. so let's get started . let's welcome again to started. let's welcome again to my panel, journalist and commentator and broadcaster danny kelly and also author and campaigner for children in care. chris wild. welcome, chris you wild thank you . it's an old gag wild thank you. it's an old gag but everyone does good one. >> always, always, always , always. >> well, i'll start with danny so we can kick things off. danny yes? nice to see you, by the way. good afternoon. >> another £2 of weight loss. >> another £2 of weight loss. >> i wasn't going ask. >> i wasn't going to ask. >> i wasn't going to ask. >> i was going to say that. >> i was going to say that. >> what, did go to the loo? >> what, did you go to the loo? oh in total. >> what, did you go to the loo? oh oh, n total. >> what, did you go to the loo? oh oh, that'sl. >> what, did you go to the loo? oh oh, that's really. try and >> oh, that's really. try and get closer my wedding weight. >> which is which was, which was three was that really i >> -- >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you just bring in a picture of getting married or she of you getting married or she can wife's face, can bust out your wife's face, but see you but then we could see what you look you looked like look like, what you looked like before after. did you have hair? >> no. i've been bald since i told chris didn't know. you

told you. chris didn't know. you should laugh. >> chris. >> chris. >> you're on way. he's on >> you're on your way. he's on his i went to turkey his way. i went to turkey for mine. i went mine. an implant? yeah, i went to. went to turkey and had my to. i went to turkey and had my hair done. so did you? to. i went to turkey and had my haiiyeah.. so did you? to. i went to turkey and had my haiiyeah.. so dwerej? like? >> yeah. what were you, like? completely bald? >> no, i wasn't. i was receding, but. just became but. so much so i just became really it. and really depressed with it. and every i went people every time i went out, people didn't about didn't recognise anything about apart no, apart from my head. so. no, you're going bald. that's all i got everywhere i went. so is it. never the suits never underestimate the suits you, well. you, danny. you look well. you've it. you've got the build for it. well, yeah. well, thank you. yeah. >> some people it suits, but. >> some people it suits, but. >> but when going bald, >> but when i was going bald, maybe we do a feature maybe we should do a feature on it. one when i was 25, it. one day when i was 25, i went through mental turmoil. it. one day when i was 25, i went “yeah. h mental turmoil. it. one day when i was 25, i went “yeah. mentalal turmoil. it. one day when i was 25, i went “yeah. mental turmoil. l. yeah. yeah. mental turmoil. yeah. yeah. mental turmoil. yeah. it's easy. not easy. >> no, nobody says it 9 no, nobody says it n >> no, no, nobody says it is. i mean, i'm underneath this. mean, i'm bald underneath this. oh, i've got hair, but. oh, no, no. i've got hair, but. >> right. anyway, so. >> right. anyway, so. >> anyway. yeah. so let's >> so anyway. so, yeah. so let's start this. so talking start with this. so talking about new deal, about the new deal, the new deal about the new deal, the new deal. new deal. >> i think it's amazing. i >> i think it's amazing. when i started cars, you got to started selling cars, you got to started selling cars, you got to start i started start somewhere and i started selling from home selling cars from my home address. you imagine what address. now you imagine what it's strangers it's like having strangers coming your house a coming into your house to buy a car if car dealer. but he's car if a car dealer. but he's selling these selling from home. all of these uncertainties and have to uncertainties and you have to start small and i'm confident

that this new deal and i'm that with this new deal and i'm hoping that maybe when biden gets the because the only gets the boot because the only reason haven't reason we haven't got a successful the successful trade deal with the usa because lost the usa was because trump lost the election. was in power, election. if trump was in power, then deal. so then we'd have had that deal. so all the romaniacs are saying, all of the romaniacs are saying, oh, didn't get yankee oh, you didn't get the yankee deal oh, you didn't get the yankee deal. get the deal. you didn't get the american not american deal. that's not through a fault of our own. it's because presidential because of the presidential the president out president who was booted out otherwise we would have got that president who was booted out othensoa we would have got that president who was booted out othenso i'me would have got that president who was booted out othenso i'm hoping have got that president who was booted out othenso i'm hoping that�* got that president who was booted out othenso i'm hoping that biden1at deal. so i'm hoping that biden gets that gets the sack. i'm hoping that there's republican there's an american republican who a favourable who wants to do a favourable trade deal with us. but you're right, is with right, not the problem is with with brexit is so with with with brexit is so divided, look with with with brexit is so diythings look with with with brexit is so diythings objectively look with with with brexit is so diythings objectively andyok at things objectively and i would love for some remainers to say, do you know what? okay, you know, we're actually doing okay. and deal something and this new deal is something thatis and this new deal is something that is the genesis of that is maybe the genesis of something so fair play something bigger. so fair play to you. let's see what we can do. but they're not saying that. no, they're not. >> only >> because it's only nought point >> because it's only nought poiinot either one of your gdp >> not either one of your gdp over ten years. >> it's impossible concede >> it's impossible to concede any ground debate. any ground with this debate. >> what you think, >> is that what you think, chris. did chris. were you did you remainer. yeah. >> i wasn't at all. >> well don't. i wasn't at all. and i'll tell you something now.

every my wife goes to every time my wife goes to tesco's coffee, she tesco's and buys coffee, she comes back and says, we're getting divorce that getting a divorce because that costs getting a divorce because that cos and you voted brexit getting a divorce because that cosand you voted brexit and i'm >> and you voted brexit and i'm like, no, that's not the point. >> and there's a of kind of >> and there's a lot of kind of there's a dichotomy there, there's a dichotomy out there, like about like you've just said about brexit remain. brexit and those who remain. >> as me, i just want to see >> as for me, i just want to see the economy thrive. i work out in the streets. i go into the communities i want to see communities and i want to see people, to people, you know, be able to make living , to go out there, make a living, to go out there, to a company and to start up a company and thrive. and i think this for me is great. it really does show that things progressing that things are progressing and things and things are moving forward. and i want to see the market prices going down. every i go to going down. every time i go to the i spend £30, i come the shop, i spend £30, i come home with nothing and something's give something's got to give here. and is an and i think this is an opportunity that opportunity to put that back into the see things , into the country, see things, food reduce and food in particular, reduce and let people live life again and let people live a life again and have some money in their pocket. >> but people argue that >> but people would argue that we haven't that we are now we haven't got that close with the close relationship now with the bloc closest to us, bloc that is closest to us, which the eu. i mean, does which is the eu. i mean, does that do you not think about that? and there's lot that? and there's a lot of businesses as well who businesses out there as well who look think, but the look at this and think, but the

thing is about the thing is, the thing is about the eu, thing about brexit eu, the whole thing about brexit is, is to reduce restrict us so eu, the whole thing about brexit is, is ableiuce restrict us so eu, the whole thing about brexit is, is able to e restrict us so eu, the whole thing about brexit is, is able to thrive. ct us so we're able to thrive. >> able to do things so >> we're able to do things so young people become young people can become entrepreneurs. the entrepreneurs. we don't want the powers hanging over powers of europe hanging over us, carrots, saying , us, dangling carrots, saying, this going do. this is what you're going to do. you can't do this. you can't do that. need that freedom. that. we do need that freedom. and this and i'm saying this as a socialist, a labour voter, socialist, as a labour voter, you're a labour. >> i exactly. got him on >> i know exactly. we got him on to have an opposite voice, but he's agreeing with us, is he's agreeing with us, which is good because it makes sense. but of there of course it makes sense. there is voice, mean, and is that voice, i mean, and people still trying to drag us back into the eu. it's almost like obsession wonder like an obsession and i wonder what is that obsession. >> because it's security. it's safety, isn't it? i think for years, for many there's years, for many years, there's been over been this ominous cloud over this you can't do this country saying you can't do anything europe. anything without europe. you can't independent again. can't be independent ever again. and believe that and a lot of people believe that the fickle. and but, you the mob is fickle. and but, you know, i know you go out there into communities speak into the communities you speak to people vote to people. a lot of people vote with for a reason. and with brexit for a reason. and you to the north you know, you go to the north and geographic , you say people you know, you go to the north antheeographic , you say people you know, you go to the north anthe north,1ic , you say people you know, you go to the north anthe north, hull,ou say people you know, you go to the north anthe north, hull, manchester,e in the north, hull, manchester, for a lot of these people voted brexit. why they vote brexit. why did they vote brexit? enough brexit? because enough is enough. want to be able to

enough. they want to be able to have freedom and have their freedom and independence. i think independence. well i think i think generally speaking, and it's broad but generally it's a broad term, but generally speaking, voted speaking, people who voted remain valued of remain really valued freedom of movement they would movement because they would benefit from it. >> they would maybe travel freely would freely across europe, they would maybe stuff from europe, maybe import stuff from europe, freedom movement. you won't freedom of movement. you won't recognise but recognise it in my voice, but i'm scouser by birth and i'm a scouser by birth and i know can recognise a very know we can recognise a very mild not disguised it well. >> i could recognise it's quite strong 20 years. it's pretty strong 20 years. it's pretty strong it is. i think he strong as it is. i think he thinks he's got the queen's name by the way. >> i don't to lose my, >> i don't want to lose my, i don't want lose my man of the don't want to lose my man of the people i'm wearing people status but i'm wearing ugg trainers apparently ugg trainers and apparently ugg trainers, products going trainers, ugg products are going to come down in price because trainers, ugg products are going to congotown in price because trainers, ugg products are going to congot this in price because trainers, ugg products are going to congot this new ice because trainers, ugg products are going to congot this new ice bywith;e australia. >> that's >> so that's that's a potentially potentially yeah. potentially potentially. yeah. so i've lost my train of thought. you're taking the mickey out of me. so what you're saying telling us how saying you're telling us how great your voice so remain great your voice is. so remain is really valued. is really, really valued. freedom of movement. older people really valued the security. who security. my father, who celebrated birthday on celebrated his 90th birthday on august the voted remain august the seventh, voted remain because he went through he literally dropping in

literally saw bombs dropping in liverpool he went through liverpool and he went through that he thought through that and he thought through security of a collective, then that happen. that wouldn't happen. >> whereas working >> so whereas working class people they were sick of people voted, they were sick of unfettered immigration, generally , and they generally speaking, and they wanted earn a few. wanted to earn a few. >> absolutely. well >> bob yeah, absolutely. well listen, nothing listen, this show is nothing without you as ever. >> if you join in, you know how to at gbviews@gbnews.com. to do it at gbviews@gbnews.com. i'm gb news to do it at gbviews@gbnews.com. i'ntv gb news to do it at gbviews@gbnews.com. i'ntv online gb news to do it at gbviews@gbnews.com. i'ntv online and gb news to do it at gbviews@gbnews.com. i'ntv online and on gb news to do it at gbviews@gbnews.com. i'ntv online and on digitaliews on tv online and on digital radio. still my mystery radio. still to come, my mystery outside guest is going to be with just five. he's with me just after five. he's excelled hurdles, excelled at running hurdles, pole boxing , but pole vaulting and boxing, but after injury turned him after an injury turned him himself, he turned himself into a . the result? well, a coach. the result? well, you'll have tune in and find you'll have to tune in and find out. stay tuned. first, out. stay tuned. but first, let's get weather that warm let's get some weather that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office . july is by the met office. july is relatively showery. theme will be continuing over the next few days. low pressure is gradually pushing its way off towards the north, winds will be

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wake up two mornings on gb news the people's channel. >> britain's news . the people's channel. >> britain's news. channel >> britain's news. channel >> 24 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. right now it's time for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking should prince george serve forces? now, serve in the armed forces? now, prince george will reportedly not to serve in the not expected to serve in the military before becoming king. speaking ahead of the young prince's birthday long time prince's birthday a long time friend of william has said that the rules are different now and he necessarily have to he wouldn't necessarily have to follow the old formula of going into military and then royal into the military and then royal life. will breaking the life. now will breaking the tradition of members of the royal family serving in the army mean a new era for british royalty? with prince harry

facing backlash for disclosing his kill count? i mean, what was he thinking in his book spare? it was a disaster of that book. he thinking in his book spare? it vshouldn'tster of that book. he thinking in his book spare? it vshouldn't havef that book. he thinking in his book spare? it vshouldn't have botheredyk. he thinking in his book spare? it vshouldn't have bothered with he shouldn't have bothered with it. is it the right idea for front royals to not be front facing royals to not be heavily involved military heavily involved in military combat? for the great british combat? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, what should prince what do you think? should prince george serve in the armed forces? now forces? i'm joined now to discuss martin daubney gb news, contributor peter contributor and former mep peter edwards, former editor of the labourlist defence labourlist will geddes defence and security expert, and michael cole former royal cole, former bbc royal correspondent . i'm cole, former bbc royal correspondent. i'm going to start you, michael cole . it start with you, michael cole. it would potentially would be breaking, potentially breaking years years and breaking years and years and years tradition . years of tradition. >> pound to a penny. >> a pound to a penny. >> a pound to a penny. >> nana prince george will serve in the armed forces in due coui'se. >> course. >> of course , his parents will >> of course, his parents will consult him and of course, they'll give him a choice. but he will go because in due course , if history takes its proper course, he will become king george the seventh. and it would be unthinkable as the commander

in chief of our armed forces had he not worn the uniform of his own country . so this story based own country. so this story based upon the word of an anonymous friend of prince william, has been serious , really overcooked. been serious, really overcooked. i know the charming and excellent journalist who wrote it, but it has been overcooked . it, but it has been overcooked. there's no no way he won't serve in the in the armed forces. the last king to lead britain in battle was king george, the second his namesake in 1743 at the battle of dettingen against the battle of dettingen against the french. it hasn't happened since, but there's been a long history. his great grandfather , history. his great grandfather, uh, prince philip , the duke of uh, prince philip, the duke of edinburgh, he served in the second world war. he was mentioned twice in dispatches and he said to me once in an interview that the armed forces give the royal princes a safe place to be if they were in the commercial world, if they worked

for this ford company, then general motors would complain that it was unfair competition. >> so you make a good point out of you make a good point. >> in a safe place where they can be guarded to some extent from the intrusions of the media. so it's an interesting story, but not worth putting on the front. >> you're making a good point. and actually, what would they do? as we've seen in the case of prince harry, he doesn't know what doing. to what he's doing. let's go to will we'll us high nana. >> well, i kind of really >> well, i kind of follow really what michael's saying there. i think it would be it would be sad take an active sad if he didn't take an active role, certainly be role, certainly as he will be king day the commander in king one day as the commander in chief. hasn't actually chief. and he hasn't actually experienced . know, experienced it. you know, we have branches. got have three branches. we've got the british the navy the british army, the royal navy and air force and the and the royal air force and the british army royal air british army and the royal air force to pledge allegiance force have to pledge allegiance to the sovereign. the only one that doesn't is the royal navy, because it was formed by the monarchy and not by parliament. so sure his parents are to so i'm sure his parents are to going give him an option. it's not going to be forced on him.

and for many of the royal family members, is ceremonial members, it is a ceremonial title. they may named as the title. they may be named as the head of a particular unit or a particular branch of the military . but fundamentally, i'm military. but fundamentally, i'm sure he will want to follow in his father's footsteps and in his father's footsteps and in his grandfather's footsteps as well. and before. well. and those before. >> think maybe he's not >> do you think maybe he's not the fighting type anyway ? don't the fighting type anyway? don't think cause more trouble think they cause more trouble when they're those positions when they're in those positions than out. let's go peter. than out. let's go to peter. peter edwards i don't know if they cause more trouble. no, no , they do. because. no, no, no. by that. by that, i mean, you by that. by that, i mean, if you imagine people who imagine all the people who had all people had all the people who had to protect prince harry when he went combat were were went into combat were were risking lives, mean, risking their lives, i mean, only expose them only for him to expose them later. mean, you know, it later. but i mean, you know, it just i'd rather they just seems a bit i'd rather they weren't there that way. the weren't in there that way. the others put their lives others wouldn't put their lives at risk. but you think, peter? >> well, anyone and i hate this phrase, but who's a kind >> well, anyone and i hate this phvip, but who's a kind >> well, anyone and i hate this phvip orut who's a kind >> well, anyone and i hate this phvip or very, who's a kind >> well, anyone and i hate this phvip or very, very who's a kind >> well, anyone and i hate this phvip or very, very importantnd of vip or very, very important person will attract that attention. has got to attention. the army has got to be look after its be able to look after its comrades. but i think right comrades. but i think it's right that an adult and that the prince as an adult and he's a little boy the

he's just a little boy at the moment, we've got to remember, still primary school make still at primary school can make his life. but as his own choices in life. but as michael rightly said, michael cole rightly said, the case in army, case for serving in the army, apart and apart from patriotism and swearing, and swearing, the oath and everything is, as he says everything else is, as he says it, it a prince or it, it gives a prince or princess a to grow up princess a chance to grow up privately. 19, 20 is still privately. 18, 19, 20 is still young. still out young. he's still working out your life, away from young. he's still working out your intrusion. away from young. he's still working out your intrusion. buty from young. he's still working out your intrusion. but itfrom young. he's still working out your intrusion. but it also media intrusion. but it also allows have boss and allows you to have a boss and the family don't the royal family don't have a boss the rest us in boss like the rest of us in their life. in in any of the their life. but in in any of the services, they'll have someone more them what to more senior telling them what to do day. so it is a taste do every day. so it is a taste of normality. so i think there's something for it. but something to be said for it. but you talking about you know, we're talking about a little be against little boy who could be against the chooses his own the idea that he chooses his own way life. way in life. >> martin the military legitimate officers, the royal family, a sense of family, it gives them a sense of purpose and it gives them a sense honour. sense of honour. >> i think in terms of >> and i think in terms of pubuc >> and i think in terms of public perception, let's not forget, was at forget, even prince harry was at his when he in his most popular when he was in afghanistan anne prince afghanistan, anne and prince william, the william, when he was flying the helicopter, respected helicopter, people respected that. that. and it that. they admired that. and it gives of purpose gives them a sense of purpose between adulthood and then their role monarchy. if king role in the monarchy. if king george's role is in the in the private sector, then disaster

awaits there'll be all awaits because there'll be all sorts of accusations of his royal patronage being applied to the private sector. it'll be much more likely to get damaged as a brand, individual, as a brand, as an individual, and the royal family as an institution. it goes into the institution. if it goes into the private sector with all the kind of risks of of affiliated risks of favouritism, of abuse, of title . actually the military is a far safer place for a fledgling budding monarch than the private sector. and i think it sends a real negative message about the future of our armed services to their already beleaguered. their funding is cut, and i think they need a figurehead . and the need a figurehead. and the second in line to the throne should be that figurehead. >> all agree? >> well, so you all agree? i mean, listen, don't why mean, listen, i don't see why he should to that should have to do that personally. i mean, i get it personally. i mean, but i get it that he's got basically he's got nowhere well, is it nowhere else to go. well, is it will is it a security risk then for do anything else at for him to do anything else at that in his life anyway? that point in his life anyway? yeah i'd agree with that. >> of the panel on >> the rest of the panel on that. i think outside the that. i think outside of the confines military and confines of the military and again, know, drawing many confines of the military and agthe know, drawing many confines of the military and agthe points,ow, drawing many confines of the military and agthe points, all drawing many confines of the military and agthe points, all the ming many confines of the military and agthe points, all the other many of the points, all the other guests have mentioned, know, guests have mentioned, you know, he of

he will learn a sense of discipline, self discipline discipline, both self discipline , but also reporting to others which other than obviously his father his family, he won't father and his family, he won't necessarily be in a position where he has to fall in line with fellow members of his unit or his regiment, wherever he is assigned. so whilst he's there, you have a number of other individuals who are also going to be armed, who are going to be combatants, are going to be fit, are going to be trained. you couldn't be in more secure couldn't be in a more secure environment. and amongst environment. and being amongst his troops and then his his fellow troops and then he be in private he would be in the private sector. so honest, if you sector. so to be honest, if you wanted to be safe, wanted him to be safe, it's probably safest place. wanted him to be safe, it's probablythe safest place. wanted him to be safe, it's probablythe fact est place. wanted him to be safe, it's probablythe fact est phe e. wanted him to be safe, it's probablythe fact est phe may, as despite the fact that he may, as his has , as his uncle his father has, as his uncle has, and other members of the family obviously in family serving, obviously in hostile environments . hostile risk environments. >> well, i think well, if they all agree that's fair enough. martin you very martin daubney, thank you very much. and much. gb news contributor and former also peter edwards, former mep, also peter edwards, former mep, also peter edwards, former labourlist former editor of the labourlist will geddes and will geddes is defence and security and michael security expert, and michael cole royal cole, former bbc royal correspondent. for correspondent. thank you for your thoughts. well, what do you think let's quick look think? let's have a quick look at you've saying. at what you've been saying. janine should

janine says prince george should serve the forces are serve because the forces are very loyal their commander in very loyal to their commander in chief. should earned very loyal to their commander in chithe should earned very loyal to their commander in chithe time should earned very loyal to their commander in chithe time he tould earned very loyal to their commander in chithe time he becomesearned very loyal to their commander in chithe time he becomes kingd by the time he becomes king. well, this well. but that well, this as well. but that didn't work for harry, did it? i mean, look what's to mean, look what's happened to harry. bad. it harry. it's bad. isn't it terrible happened, harry. john says to become the says if he's going to become the head armed he head of the armed forces, he needs understand it works needs to understand how it works . says, absolutely he . and jim says, absolutely he will. become head of will. one day become head of state. however at 8 i state. however at 8 or 9, i think the press needs to lay off. well, i like that. we'll be discussing it in the great british so we discussing it in the great britisgoing so we discussing it in the great britisgoing anywhere. so we discussing it in the great britisgoing anywhere. you're e discussing it in the great britisme.|g anywhere. you're e discussing it in the great britisme.|g arnana re. you're e discussing it in the great britisme. |g ar nana akua u're e discussing it in the great britisme.|g arnana akua on e discussing it in the great britisme.|g arnana akua on tv with me. i'm nana akua on tv onune with me. i'm nana akua on tv online radio on online and on digital radio on the way . the great british the way. the great british debate. i'll be asking, should the way. the great british debate georges asking, should the way. the great british debate george serve|g, should the way. the great british debate george serve in should the way. the great british debate george serve in the uld the way. the great british debategeorge serve in the armed prince george serve in the armed forces? we'll hear the thoughts of my panel. journalist and broadcaster danny kelly and also author campaigner for author and campaigner for children in care, chris wild . children in care, chris wild. and then stay tuned at five. have very , very special guest have a very, very special guest following a devastating, devastating back injury. my sporting hero decided to focus on boxing and eventually become a professional fighter. is a professional fighter. who is he? he's on the way at five. but first, let's get your latest news headlines .

news headlines. >> hi. there it is , 432. aaron >> hi. there it is, 432. aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. the uk has become the first european country to formally join the indo—pacific trade bloc , potentially creating trade bloc, potentially creating access to £12 trillion worth of global business at kemi badenoch. the business secretary says the deal brings britain closer to having access to a market of 500 million people with fewer barriers , which with fewer barriers, which should make some everyday items cheapen should make some everyday items cheaper. it's estimated to come into effect towards the end of next year and ms badenoch, though, admitted a free trade agreement with the united states is now highly unlikely. the home secretary has published a letter to sir keir starmer alleging a labour staffer met just stop oil and extinction rebellion represent sentatives in private meetings . suella braverman is meetings. suella braverman is claiming internal memos from the campaign group just stop oil showed the mp jess morton met environmental groups to, in her words, sell them on how labour is still driven by the

environment. the home secretary called for the sacking of ms morton and just stop oil have responded, saying suella braverman is inventing stories to distract from the truth and firefighters are still battling a blaze at a hotel in east sussex over 20 hours after it began with high winds hampering the efforts. emergency services were called to the royal albion hotel, which has been reduced to a shell. they were called yesterday evening while east sussex fire and rescue services say no one's been injured, but people have had to be evacuated from nearby buildings because of the extremely challenging conditions . more on all of our conditions. more on all of our stories on our website, gbnews.com. and i'll be back with more in about half an hours with more in about half an hour's time. now it's over to nana. >> that's up next. it's time for the great british debate where

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not be expected to serve in the military before becoming king. and speaking ahead of the young prince's birthday, a long time friend of william has said that prince's birthday, a long time frieirules william has said that prince's birthday, a long time frieirules are .iam has said that prince's birthday, a long time frieirules are differentsaid that prince's birthday, a long time frieirules are different nowthat prince's birthday, a long time frieirules are different now and the rules are different now and he wouldn't necessarily have to follow the old formula of going into military and royal into the military and royal life. so will breaking the tradition members of the tradition of members of the royal serving in army royal family serving in the army mean a new era for the british royalty ? so loads obviously royalty? so loads of obviously backlash from prince harry when he disclosed his kill count. i mean, what was he doing that mean, what was he doing on that disastrous , for disastrous memoir, spur, for which hopefully there won't be another on the way. a lot another one on the way. so a lot of royals, you know, this is what he did with his combat. it's worrying. but do you think that prince george should go into combat and be part of the military ? it's not going to military? it's not going to combat obe. won't be combat obe. there won't be a war. the great british war. so if the great british debate i'm babbling. debate this i'm just babbling. i'm prince george i'm asking, should prince george served forces? i'm asking, should prince george serve i'm a royalist. i love the royal family i queued ten hours to see dead queen. and it

to see the dead queen. and it was a day that i'll never forget. think if are a forget. and i think if you are a royalist, you need to royalist, i think you need to keep if you keep with tradition. and if you start away tradition start chipping away at tradition , then think that leaves the , then i think that leaves the door people door open to people saying, well, it's the royal well, look, it's not the royal family that we use to live. if you're going to be the head of the army, great hotel managers. what makes hotel manager what makes a great hotel manager is know they is that they know they spend time doing housekeeping. they spend time in kitchen. they time doing housekeeping. they spend time being kitchen. they time doing housekeeping. they spend time being aitchen. they time doing housekeeping. they spend time being a maintenance guy. they they get a holistic guy. so they they get a holistic view of how to operate a successful business. and i think it's that he does, it's important that he does, even it's just for plebs like even if it's just for plebs like me. and chris and yourself to know don't put me in the bracket of a pleb . of a pleb. >> you are yourself . okay. well, >> you are yourself. okay. well, i'm not. i'm. >> i'm definitely a pleb. >> i'm definitely a pleb. >> yeah, you've got two plebs. >> yeah, you've got two plebs. >> i've got two plebs with me. but you've got a pleb, you've got a thinner pleb and i and i think he didn't call you thin, he said thinner. thinner. >> i wouldn't like a right up. so i think it's essential that tradition is upheld .

tradition is upheld. >> what do you think, danny? >> what do you think, danny? >> i'm going to oppose that. i do apologise. it's just because iused do apologise. it's just because i used be in the army myself. i used to be in the army myself. i've done the oath of allegiance. the thing is as allegiance. and the thing is as well, world changed. well, is the world has changed. the family has changed. the royal family has changed. they're not military leaders. they're charity leaders. and i think their best think that's where their best placed. that , you placed. and i say that, you know, in the old days when know, back in the old days when you on a battlefield you were on the on a battlefield and are dying and your men are dying and you're tired all of a you're tired and then all of a sudden the king comes on his horse with with with his horse with his with his with his sword boosts that morale. sword and he boosts that morale. those are now. so it's those days are gone now. so it's kind like there's there's kind of like there's a there's a bit narcissistic thing bit of a narcissistic thing about king being the head of about the king being the head of the and about him leading the army and about him leading soldiers into battle. there isn't going be any battles it isn't going to be any battles it just doesn't make sense to me. and think they're best place and i think they're best place just charity just doing the charity work, come military completely. >> you're royalist . >> you're a royalist. >> you're a royalist. >> i've got to be careful what i say here. why? because i was. and i'm not as such. i just think it's times change and we've got to change with it. and i just don't like the fact that they they get all this money, all this wealth and they don't really anything and

know. >> hang on a minute. you said they don't do anything for it. >> they don't? >> they don't? >> well, they because, >> well, no, they do, because, listen, at listen, if you have to get up at whatever, a m and go to a charity so they are heads of charity and so they are heads of numbers of charities. now, the fact they're heads of fact that they're heads of charities can the charities can boost the profitability, but that's all good no, good for me. finish. no, no, no, no. i'm telling you what they do. yeah. so the heads of charities. fact that they charities. so the fact that they boost these boost the coffers of these charities hundreds boost the coffers of these ch them, hundreds boost the coffers of these ch them, of1undreds boost the coffers of these ch them, of them, ds boost the coffers of these ch them, of them, and of them, hundreds of them, and these are for these charities are for the people benefit the people. these charities are for the people something it the people. these charities are for the peoplesomething notie people. these charities are for the people something not onlyople. these charities are for the people something not only that, that's something not only that, but ambassadors for but also they're ambassadors for this people come to this country. so people come to this country. so people come to this country. so people come to this country to come the this country to come and see the royal that brings in royal family, and that brings in billions. a soft power. royal family, and that brings in billiythen a soft power. royal family, and that brings in billiythen also, a soft power. royal family, and that brings in billiythen also, charles)ower. royal family, and that brings in billiythen also, charles gets'. and then also, charles gets involved that involved in things that you shouldn't but shouldn't get involved in. but let's not there. but that's let's not go there. but that's very true. >> i've also on so much land >> but i've also on so much land where build many where we could build so many houses, spending, what they houses, the spending, what they what family could houses, the spending, what they wh divided family could houses, the spending, what they wh divided all family could houses, the spending, what they wh divided all over family could houses, the spending, what they wh divided all over farcountryld be divided all over the country and change things and it could change things completely. we always completely. lisa yeah, we always need a head that makes completely. lisa yeah, we always need awell, that makes completely. lisa yeah, we always need awell, does that makes completely. lisa yeah, we always need awell, does that sense. sense. well, it does make sense. >> no, it doesn't. because if you if you sell off all the land so money's gone. what so that money's gone. what income? you income? where's the money? you get the family. get rid of the royal family. where going to replace

where are you going to replace those royal family it's not about replacing the >> it's not about replacing the billions. well it is. >> it is. is. because you're >> it is. it is. because you're talking money. talking talking about money. i'm talking about they've got enough land, though, about they've got enough land, tho they've got enough wealth to >> they've got enough wealth to help to contribute to this. and they that's just the they don't. and that's just the fact. are facts that fact. these are facts that that so much money pumped into so much money gets pumped into that taxpayers so much money gets pumped into theit taxpayers so much money gets pumped into theit could taxpayers as it could change. >> much do you know? it's >> how much do you know? it's about £1.29, isn't £1, 29 about £1.29, isn't it? £1, 29 per about £1. per person. it's about £1. >> look at it annually. >> let's look at it annually. it's millions. >> goes millions, >> it goes into the millions, but it's £1 per but it's £1. it's about £1 per person £1.20 something. person a year. £1.20 something. >> obviously >> well, you're obviously a royalist. no, royalist. no, no, no. >> just counteracting your >> i'm just counteracting your points. i don't agree with you. well, royalist. well, i'm not a royalist. >> i'm a realist. and >> i think i'm a realist. and the street is young the word on the street is young people to do. they people don't want to do. they want a royal family. at the want a royal family. look at the stats, the data out stats, look at the data out there. about 50% people there. but about 50% of people don't do. don't want it. 50% do. >> that's not quite >> so. well, that's not quite true. stats are slightly true. the stats are slightly different. and as you get older, more people want them. more and more people want them. so get older, maybe. more and more people want them. so but get older, maybe. more and more people want them. so but it's older, maybe. more and more people want them. so but it's opersonal'be. well, but it's a personal opinion. >> personal opinion we're >> it's a personal opinion we're getting we're getting we're distilling down between being getting we're getting we're diroyalist down between being getting we're getting we're diroyalist and wn between being getting we're getting we're diroyalist and beingtween being republican. >> and people on the on >> and people who are on the on the of politics tend to, if the left of politics tend to, if you like, about people who

the left of politics tend to, if you skint. about people who the left of politics tend to, if you skint. and about people who the left of politics tend to, if you skint. and that'speople who the left of politics tend to, if you skint. and that's where who are skint. and that's where chris that's his chris is coming from. that's his position. position. i care position. my position. i care about are skint, but about people who are skint, but i'm capitalist i'm more of a capitalist and i am a royalist because i believe that income they that the income that they generate, that's where i generate, well, that's where i stand. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but but >> yeah. but but also, there's something i know something quite galling. i know it's year. if it's only £1.20 a year. if that's you say, there's that's what you say, but there's so these are multi, so minted nana. these are multi, multi millionaires. >> wealth on a different >> it's wealth on a different level. people even dream level. people can't even dream of well, but getting back to the >> well, but getting back to the original about prince original question about prince george army, my position. >> well, a minute. the >> well, hang on a minute. the position you've pointed is position that you've pointed is a conflict interest. a bit of a conflict of interest. and where it that you and so where is it that you stand? you're on the fence, but you're sort of i'm not on you're sort of no, i'm not on the fence. >> you should be in the it'll be a very fence. a very strong fence. >> you're anyway. >> but you're on it anyway. >> but you're on it anyway. >> it's . >> it's. >> it's. >> no, no, look, no, no, look, i have lost £11 and gradually cut the pounds week . the pounds a week. >> nana. i'm a royalist. i like the royal family. the question is, should prince the royal family. the question is, go should prince the royal family. the question is, go inhould prince the royal family. the question is, go in the ld prince the royal family. the question is, go in the ld prin

those ceremonial uniforms those stupid ceremonial uniforms and can wave to plebs and he can wave to the plebs like chris and i off the buckingham palace balcony every yeah buckingham palace balcony every year. it makes me feel good. year. and it makes me feel good. and the better in positions of charity . charity. >> like you said, they can boost more charity, help more money for charity, help poor they're poor people. that's what they're good poor people. that's what they're gooyeah, well, maybe they >> yeah, well, maybe they should. of that should. do they do a lot of that as hopefully they'll as well. so hopefully they'll carry on with that. but the show is nothing without and your carry on with that. but the show is noth let's/ithout and your carry on with that. but the show is noth let's welcome and your carry on with that. but the show is noth let's welcome our d your carry on with that. but the show is noth let's welcome our greatr views. let's welcome our great british their british voice on their opportunity on show opportunity to be on the show and us they think and tell us what they think about topics we're about the topics we're discussing. head to discussing. let's head over to kidderminster. a chat kidderminster. let's have a chat with he's always kidderminster. let's have a chat witisomething he's always kidderminster. let's have a chat witisomething to he's always kidderminster. let's have a chat witisomething to say's always kidderminster. let's have a chat witisomething to say that'sys got something to say that's interesting. rage interesting. john rage should let's about interesting. john rage should let"royal about interesting. john rage should let"royal family about interesting. john rage should let"royal family brieflyiout interesting. john rage should let"royal family briefly and the royal family briefly and then we'll get into the nitty gritty of george. but gritty of prince george. but what think? royal family, what do you think? royal family, they're ? they're a good thing, right? >> absolutely nana. i'm >> i think absolutely nana. i'm with you. >> i'm a royalist through and through all my life . through have been all my life. >> um, of course, we lost our dear last year, but the dear queen last year, but the royal will change has royal family will change and has changed many ways over years. >> but i'm absolutely with you . >> but i'm absolutely with you. i think the royal family should remain forever. >> and i don't care how much money they've got. got

money they've got. i've got a little bit but i'm not bothered. >> i'm not into money really? >> i'm not into money really? >> yeah, i'm into money. but i don't really care that £1.20 something for the good they something for all the good they do tourism. i'm do and the tourism. i'm happy with what prince with that. what about prince george should he go into george now, should he go into the armed or he the armed forces or should he just time for them just just is it time for them to just not with not bother with that? >> well, think he should, >> well, i think he should, although i think he should also have the choice to go in. >> and that's something isn't it? >> um, i'd do a bit of work in prison and currently talking >> um, i'd do a bit of work in priayn and currently talking >> um, i'd do a bit of work in priayn arwho currently talking >> um, i'd do a bit of work in priayn arwho wasrrently talking >> um, i'd do a bit of work in priayn arwho was inntly talking >> um, i'd do a bit of work in priayn arwho was in afghanistan to a guy who was in afghanistan with harry. >> so harry could it could >> um, so harry could it could very well say, as he has in his book, he thought and he book, that he thought and he killed certain numbers of people, etcetera . people, etcetera. >> i'm not sure even if they >> but i'm not sure even if they go into a war situation when they're actually in the same danger as some of our ordinary citizens would be. so i don't think it would do him any harm to go the armed forces. but to go in the armed forces. but at the the day, i think at the end of the day, i think it should be his choice and not anybody else's. >> interesting. thank very >> interesting. thank you very much john. to much for that, john. good to talk that's john reid is talk to you. that's john reid is there kidderminster. a there in kidderminster. he's a great well, today

great british voice well, today i've should i've been asking you, should prince the armed i've been asking you, should prince and the armed i've been asking you, should prince and lots the armed i've been asking you, should prince and lots of the armed i've been asking you, should prince and lots of youthe armed i've been asking you, should prince and lots of you have �*med forces? and lots of you have been getting in touch. nadiya says can't understand says you can't understand the armed serve. armed forces unless you serve. aslef george one aslef says if prince george one day forces pledge day expects the forces to pledge allegiance him, he allegiance to him, which he might , then he should first show might, then he should first show his them . and he says his worth to them. and he says if he doesn't serve, if he doesn't want to serve, then not be allowed then he should not be allowed to succeed after all, succeed his father. after all, he'll head of several he'll be head of several regiments and angela says, i don't think so, because he may not to. it should be his not want to. it should be his choice, says . i've always choice, mark says. i've always felt military service gives the royal family credibility in respect , it it gives respect, but it sounds it gives them something to frankly, them something to do, frankly, because otherwise , what will he because otherwise, what will he do? know, me , i've nana do? you know, with me, i've nana akua on tv, online and akua gb news on tv, online and on digital radio on the way. he's coached almost 20,000 people be a record. people thought to be a record. all will be revealed with my mystery guest and outside at just after 5:00. but first, let's get an update with your weather. >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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>> the people's channel, britain's news . >> the people's channel, britain's news. channel >> good afternoon. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. don't forget as well. you can download the gb news app and check everything but now it's everything out, but now it's time and time for world view and president vladimir putin and russia had a sufficient stockpile of cluster bombs and reserved for them to use . reserved for them to use. joining me to talk about this and all things russia in russia is journalist alexei ver. let's head over to i think it's

moscow. i think that's where he is. alexi so talk to me then. so an assassination attempt on two famous russian journalists, one is simonyan and she's the head of our team. she's in charge of a russian foreign broadcasting. talk to me about that. is that what's been going on there ? what's been going on there? >> well, yes. now, the russian secret service or fsb has declared that a russian group sponsored by ukrainian secret service , as bucha has paid them service, as bucha has paid them well, was going to pay them roughly £17,000 for each hit. so they were going to make to make £34,000 for those two very famous russian journalists. but that's that's a very strange choice because on the one hand, we have margarita simonyan , who we have margarita simonyan, who is a who is the head of rt and she's responsible for russia's foreign broadcasting and she is considered the pro—kremlin journalist. well, she is. >> on the other hand , and we >> on the other hand, and we have seen yastrebchak , who is have seen yastrebchak, who is considered opposition considered an opposition journalist and these two ladies, they know other journalist and these two ladies, theywell, know other journalist and these two ladies, theywell, put)w other journalist and these two ladies, theywell, put it other journalist and these two ladies, theywell, put it mildly, ther journalist and these two ladies, theywell, put it mildly, they and well, to put it mildly, they are not besties. >> both of were

>> so both of them were surprised that this assassination attempt was on both them. assassination attempt was on bot so them. assassination attempt was on bot so far,3m. assassination attempt was on bot so far, kyiv has not >> so far, kyiv has not commented on this. and well, if ukrainian secret service is actually responsible for preparing assassination preparing an assassination attempt in russia, ukraine would probably be a state sponsor of terrorism. >> but so far we have no confirmation. last year, though, we a similar case when we had a similar case when assassination attempt was again prevented by fsb on another prevented by the fsb on another famous russian journalist, vladimir is also vladimir solovyov, who is also considered a pro—kremlin mouthpiece. well, another assassination attempt, which unfortunately succeeded was on darya dugina , who was the darya dugina, who was the daughter of a famous russian ideologist , alexander dugin . so ideologist, alexander dugin. so this situation is nothing new so far. >> margarita simonyan herself commented on the situation , commented on the situation, saying that those 218 year old boys, those were russian, she hopes that they will be able to redeem their sin because they have their whole lives in front of them. >> wishes them to go the >> she wishes them to go to the battle fight in ukraine. battle and fight in ukraine. regardless of what you think of simonon's worldview, she's not someone who can easily be

intimidated because , well, she intimidated because, well, she was a war correspondent when she was a war correspondent when she was ksenia sobchak on the was young. ksenia sobchak on the other hand, said that, well, she doesn't has no doesn't know. she has no confirmation from her sources whether this assassination attempt was actually prepared. and she says she has to look more into it . more into it. >> so what about russia's disarmament then? we're hearing something about that. is there any truth to that ? any truth to that? >> well, let me say this. russia is one of the states, one of the seven states that has nuclear weapons and russia has the biggest stockpile of nuclear weapons because russia is the successor of the soviet union. so out of all 15 republics, russia is the only country that has weapons. has nuclear weapons. and russia's possession of nuclear weapons goes hand in with weapons goes hand in hand with russia's permanent place at the un security council. so basically , nuclear weapons and basically, nuclear weapons and the nations are two the united nations are two pillars of this new world order, world order, which was formed after the second world war. so russia's right to be a permanent member of the security council and to possess nuclear weapons.

russia didn't win it in the lottery. the soviet union paid for this right with the lives of 27 million people. so i don't think this is something that can be easily taken away from russia. this sounds nothing russia. so this sounds nothing like a pipe dream of those western propagandists and punst western propagandists and pundits wish for russia's pundits who wish for russia's collapse, wish , for russia's collapse, for wish, for russia's disarmament. can't even disarmament. they can't even disarmament. they can't even disarm north korea. like, what do have say russia? do we have to say about russia? and thing they connect and one more thing they connect the end of putin's reign. the end of putin's regime to the end of russia. i just have to say that putin is not russia. russia is a country with 1000 year old history and well, it was before and it will always be sexy . and it will always be sexy. >> listen, thank you very much. it's always good. a pleasure to talk to you, alexei. he's there in russia. was, of course, in russia. that was, of course, worldview. over worldview. let's head over to the have a chat the states now and have a chat with the host of the politics people paul duddridge people podcast, paul duddridge and find out what's going on there. head over to la. there. let's head over to la. that's where he is. let's start with what began with with joe biden. what began with joe biden? sleepy joe? what's happening with him ? happening with him? >> sleepy joe. very successful,

joe at the moment . >> sleepy joe. very successful, joe at the moment. he's raised $72 million for his campaign since he announced in april. >> he's actually now officially the frontrunner in campaign funding. >> i think trump is only at 30 to $40 million since he announced that he is doubling every quarter. >> but yeah, joe biden's had an extremely successful first quarter of fundraising , so that quarter of fundraising, so that bodes well. >> that means he's probably not going to get out of the race for quite a while. >> so yeah, it's been a very bumper for him now. is bumper time for him now. this is all the this campaign all the money, this campaign funding joe biden does funding forjoe biden does include all the money from the democratic dnc , the democrat democratic the dnc, the democrat party , as well as party basically, as well as individual donations for joe biden . biden. >> so that's pulling together every single dime that has been raised for him. but that was that surprised a lot of people how successful he's been raising funds this quarter. >> yeah , may have surprised, but >> yeah, may have surprised, but that's the last thing they've really if really seriously want because if he's helm, no with he's at the helm, no one with half a brain will vote for him,

surely. what hunter biden surely. what about hunter biden 7 surely. what about hunter biden ? what's happening with with with son? oh this is this is with his son? oh this is this is the great this is the great story. >> so the secret service closed their investigation about the cocaine in the white house. >> we talked about that. >> we talked about that. >> and that story could be gone now. that could over. and the now. that could be over. and the wise to do would wise thing to do would just be like secret service have like the secret service have closed their investigation after 11 identifying no 11 days with identifying no suspects okay godly, you suspects at all. okay godly, you know, they're all on camera and they could have found a suspect, but they found no suspect. donald been tweeting donald trump has been tweeting or social thing that the or through social thing that the cocaine might have belonged to hunter biden. and instead of just ignoring it, hunter biden has decided to send a cease and desist letter to donald trump telling him to stop repeating this claim. um, so it just shows above everything else that hunter biden is the greatest optimist in american history. if he cease and he thinks that a cease and desist letter to going stop desist letter is to going stop donald saying the cocaine donald trump saying the cocaine might be hunter's. donald trump saying the cocaine might be hunter's . it's a it's a might be hunter's. it's a it's a fabulous it's a fabulous turn of events he just he's he's

events when he just he's he's snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. they closed the investigation and now he's going toe to toe with donald trump with a cease and desist letter, of all things. it's a marvellous turn events. turn of events. >> listen very briefly, >> us and listen very briefly, paul >> us and listen very briefly, paul. we've got about 15 seconds. trump, in a seconds. donald trump, in a nutshell, what's going on with him ? him? >> he's 37 points ahead of desantis at the moment. he is on fire. he did a fantastic turning point speech yesterday . he is point speech yesterday. he is being feted by everybody on the right. desantis really is looking like going to have looking like he's going to have to much than to drop out much sooner than anybody suspected . it really anybody suspected. it really could. it really could happen quite think. could. it really could happen qui'well, think. could. it really could happen qui'well, listen,nk. could. it really could happen qui'well, listen, paul, it's >> well, listen, paul, it's always thank so always a pleasure. thank you so much us. that's paul much forjoining us. that's paul duddridge. he's the host of the politics podcast. is politics people podcast. this is gb online and on gb news on tv, online and on digital in digital radio. more to come in the next hour . the next hour. so it's just gone 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big

topics hitting headlines topics hitting the headlines right way. i've got a right now on the way. i've got a special guest in my outside feature have feature and also we'll have another the great another debate in the great british first, british debate. but first, let's get news headlines . get your latest news headlines. >> very good evening to you. it's 5:00. i'm karen armstrong in the gb news room. now, the uk has become the first european country to formally join the indo—pacific trade bloc, potentially creating access to £12 trillion worth of global business. the business secretary kemi badenoch , says the deal kemi badenoch, says the deal will bring british companies a step closer to selling to a market of some 500 million people, with fewer barriers, some everyday items may well become cheaper, although critics argue the impact may be limited, with the government's technical estimates suggesting it will add £1.8 billion annually to the economy after ten years. nigel huddleston, the international trade minister, told gb news the deal will help, though, to grow the economy. we're talking about

billions of pounds of additional economic activity right across the country. >> it will benefit every nation and region of the uk, not just about where we are now, but where this could go in the future as well, because we expect the membership of cptpp to expand over the coming years. so i wouldn't be too obsessed with the current numbers . this with the current numbers. this is the potential growth is about the potential growth for labour for the uk economy. labour leader sir keir starmer, though, says the trade deal is a start, but more is needed . but more is needed. >> any trade deal is good. i wouldn't call this one massive, but it's certainly not a plan for growth and the problem is we've not had a plan for growth for 13 years under this government. we still haven't got a plan growth. so yes, look, a plan for growth. so yes, look, a plan for growth. so yes, look, a deal is always a step in a trade deal is always a step in the right direction. but this is not a plan for growth . and it's not a plan for growth. and it's that have a for that failure to have a plan for growth that's us in the growth that's left us in the economic we're in. economic mess that we're in. >> meanwhile, sir keir starmer has been written to by the home secretary. she's alleging a

labour staffer had private meetings with representatives from just stop oil and extinction rebellion suella braverman claiming internal memos from just stop oil show that mp jess morton met the environmental groups to try to convince them how labour is still driven by the environment . well, the home secretary called for the sacking of ms morton, but sir keir has rebuffed claims , saying none of rebuffed claims, saying none of his team are meeting. just stop oil. the environmental group have also responded in a tweet . have also responded in a tweet. they say suella braverman is inventing stories to distract from the truth . at least 4000 from the truth. at least 4000 people have been evacuated as a result of a raging forest fire in spain. the fire in la palma started in a wooded area on the island in the canaries yesterday morning at ten aerial units and some 300 firefighters on the ground have been trying to bring the blaze under control . at the blaze under control. at least 13 houses have been destroyed on the island. the fire has crossed from one side to the other. authorities say

the fire has affected almost 150,000 acres of land . emergency 150,000 acres of land. emergency services are still attending to a fire at a hotel in brighton, almost 24 hours after it broke out . the blaze at the 200 year out. the blaze at the 200 year old royal albion hotel broke out at 5:30 yesterday. east sussex fire and rescue services say no one has been injured, but people have had to be evacuated from nearby buildings because of the extremely challenging set of conditions . novak djokovic is conditions. novak djokovic is facing a real battle against carlos alcaraz to win a record equalling eighth men's title at wimbledon . djokovic, the wimbledon. djokovic, the defending champion, took the first set six one in just 34 minutes. so at that stage , it minutes. so at that stage, it all looked very comfortable. but the world number one. alcaraz, the world number one. alcaraz, the 20 year old, hit back, taking the second set on a tie break, and he is currently 4—1 up. so he's a break up in the third set. if djokovic wins, he'll equal roger federer's singles record and margaret court's overall grand slam record. meanwhile in the other

match, the 17 year old henry searle became the first briton to win the wimbledon boys singles title since 1962. he beat yaroslav de—man in straight sets 6464. emergency services are searching for a teenage boy who was swept away in the north esk river in scotland yesterday. police, fire and coastguard teams and a helicopter have been looking for the 15 year old who got into difficulty in the water near gannochy bridge just after 5:00 on saturday. the british actress and singerjane birkin has died at the age of 76in her home in paris. himars. she team wished him well. president emmanuel macron has paid tribute to her, describing jane birkin as a french icon as she charmed france with her british music and fashion style and her big hit, of course, with the late serge gainsborough. the actress

was also the inspiration for the hermes birkin designer handbag this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens throughout the evening, but now it's back to nana . to nana. good afternoon. >> this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the now. the headlines right now. this show all about opinion. it's show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course, yours. we'll be course, it's yours. we'll be debating, at debating, discussing, and at times disagree. but times we will disagree. but no one be cancelled. so one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and danny and journalist danny kelly and also author and campaigner for children in care, chris wylde. now, still to come, each sunday at 5:00, i'm joined by a celebrity, a former mp or someone who has had an incredibly career. incredibly interesting career. and a look at after and take a look at life after the highs, lows and the job. we talk highs, lows and lessons learnt and what comes next the outside. and this

next on the outside. and this week joined by a mystery week i'm joined by a mystery guest who it into the world guest who made it into the world championships twice just out missing out on the olympics. but a devastating injury meant a devastating back injury meant that sporting decided that the sporting hero decided to focus on boxing and eventually a professional eventually became a professional fighter. who do you think it is? stay tuned. you'll find out in a couple moments time. he's couple of moments time. he's here for the here in the studio. then for the great debate. this great british debate. this hour, i'm should tories i'm asking, should the tories get inheritance it get rid of inheritance tax? it could be a real election winner for the tories , apparently. but for the tories, apparently. but will be enough to will they be brave enough to follow through? as rishi sunak teases he teases that teases put as he teases that he'll put it into the manifesto. im obe. vaiews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. right now tweet me at. gb news. right now it's tweet me at. gb news. right now wsfime tweet me at. gb news. right now it's time for this week's outside now. my special guest was born in newcastle. like me , was born in newcastle. like me, he's a geordie and has a passion for the sport from a very early age. now he spent his younger years making his way into the world of athletics , excelling at world of athletics, excelling at running hurdles and pole

vaulting and boxing . growing up, vaulting and boxing. growing up, our mystery guest was full of ambition and made it into the world championships twice just missing out on the olympics. but following a back injury that was quite devastating. my sporting hero to focus on boxing hero decided to focus on boxing and eventually became a professional fighter. he then turns attention to coaching turns his attention to coaching and eventually created what millions of people now know as boxercise with his company training, over 3000 instructors a year . my training, over 3000 instructors a year. my mystery guest has taught over 20,000 people face to face. how could this be a record? in fact, i think he taught me. of course. i'm joined by instructor, by boxer science instructor, owner andy wake. >> hi , nana. >> andy, hi, nana. >> andy, hi, nana. >> thank you very much for having me on. >> it's nice to see you. >> good to see you again. >> good to see you again. >> years ago i went to >> all those years ago i went to iused an >> all those years ago i went to i used an instructor and i i used to be an instructor and i went taught me to went to. and you taught me to box, right? >> it was in london, wasn't it? yeah, yeah, in london thing. >> and at time, because >> and at that time, because that ago, that was a long time ago, it must've what, years must've been, what, 12 years ago? don't know. ago? at least i don't know. >> have look back, but it >> i'd have to look back, but it would be quite while. but it would be quite a while. but it seems to me like i've doing

seems to me like i've been doing this 31, 32 this forever. it's been 31, 32 years this forever. it's been 31, 32 yea32 this forever. it's been 31, 32 yea 32 years? >> 32 years? >> 32 years? >> yeah. so i was when >> yeah. so i was young when i started really a bit older now. >> so what about newcastle, lad? like you and i try to do my geordie accent. it was a long time ago. i left at five. >> that's the that's one of the difficulties i found actually teaching training courses teaching on training courses that alter the way that i had to alter to the way that i had to alter to the way that i had to alter to the way that i speak when talking that i speak when i'm talking to people, otherwise if i people, because otherwise if i talk my normal accent , people, because otherwise if i talk my normal accent, i'd talk in my normal accent, i'd have to repeat everything. is this your normal accent now? no. >> this talking normal voice. >> so the way that i would explain that i would speak is the that a french person the way that a french person would english. they'd would speak english. so they'd speak slowly and deliberately. english, is the second english, to me is the second language. geordie my first language. geordie is my first language, i talk fast, language, and when i talk fast, then understands i'm saying. >> oh, i what happened >> oh, i see what happened there. good. there. very good. >> so i speak more slowly, more deliberately. then i don't deliberately. and then i don't have to say it twice. so talk to me sort of your upbringing me about sort of your upbringing and what brought you to boxercise because you've boxercise because i know you've done things. done a lot of things. >> had back injury. talk >> you had a back injury. talk to about that. what happened? to me about that. what happened? well was doing boxing,

well i was always doing boxing, always did it in the background. >> but athletics was my first love pole vault was the thing that drew me. i saw the pole vaulters doing it and i thought, i've got to try that one day. but i was very busy in the sports coaches said, no, you know, stick with sprinting , know, stick with sprinting, stick with hurdling. and eventually and i eventually i got a goal and i was hooked , so to say. and i did was hooked, so to say. and i did that. and got very close to qualifying for the commonwealth games and suffered a motorbike injury due to my own idiocy really. >> what happened? what did you do? >> well, as they say, smart people do smart things . stupid people do smart things. stupid people do smart things. stupid people do smart things. stupid people do stupid things. and my actions that day spoke for themselves. i was wearing a pair of tracksuit bottoms and not much else crash out. i did have a crash helmet and i decided to borrow somebody else's motorbike. he lent it to me and i wrote it like an idiot and crashed it badly and did you crashed it badly and did you crash into something or a pothole? a pothole ? a pothole.

pothole? a pothole? a pothole. and it shattered and i just bounced end to end for, i don't know, a long way. >> when you hit that pothole in your head, did you think this is going to hurt you were in the air? >> actually, repeat what i thought in the air, but i did think 1—1 word and that was the only word that went through my head until finally i hit the hit the road and got road rash . wow. the road and got road rash. wow. wow. yeah, it was a painful learning experience , but it was learning experience, but it was a learning experience. i still ride a motorbike today, but i ride a motorbike today, but i ride it much more carefully and wearing protective gear , which wearing protective gear, which is a much more sensible. so you have your back. >> what did you do to your back then? well, the back injury was always there and was present as always there and was present as a result of a birth defect called spina bifida occulta, which caused too much play, if you like, in the lower spine and it causes the nerves to be pinched and eventually it made it impractical for me to continue with pole vaulting for

certainly for some time . certainly for some time. >> so i was angry. i was angry at missing out on the commonwealth games and i did what angry young men do . i what angry young men do. i fought, but i was channelled into the boxing club and that way i got some some good coaching and did some rubbish jobs for 4 or 5 years. >> and what was the worst job that you did ? that you did? >> oh gosh , probably stripper >> oh gosh, probably stripper gram . no. yeah, yeah , i said gram. no. yeah, yeah, i said that on national tv. yeah. strippergram you were a stripper gram. i was not the kind that gets everything out. a stripper gram that surprises people and then presents them with a box of chocolates or something like that, you know, a bunch of flowers. >> but not scantily clad, though i wasn't wearing very much. >> yes, i was covering the important but there was important parts, but there was much be exposed . and the much to be exposed. and the worst thing was going into factories like that. factories and things like that. and that being poured and you know, that being poured out, quite , quite

out, that's quite, quite demeaning . but for a short demeaning. but for a short penod demeaning. but for a short period of time, it was quite funny. i look on the bright side of things generally and so i did that. so yeah, i would say that was the worst stack shelves in a supermarket. done that. supermarket. i've done that. that . well, i had that was awful. well, i had friends, mums who used to come into the shop and they'd be saying, do better than saying, you can do better than this. need go to this. you need to go to university like the other guys did. made sense did. and finally they made sense to me. finally they chipped away through this thick skull of mine and i went to university and i used boxing as a method of paying my used boxing as a method of paying my way through university i >> -- >> what did you study at uni? >> what did you study at uni? >> our sports science. yeah, that was that was the obvious thing for somebody in my position do. my coaching position to do. my coaching career off had career had taken off and had gone and i was already gone very well and i was already the national coach. but then what happened was a coach for pole vault for the uk, but i'd reached a sticking point. i was doing very well at coaching and i did my coaching qualifications very young and i kind of reached

a sticking point. and then when i reached that sticking point, another colleague, coach had said to me, if you get yourself a sports science degree, you can go to the next level. but you've reached as high as you can go for now. and it was at that point that all those things collided and in a homer simpson light on moment, i, i decided to go to uni and it was the best. no, it wasn't the best decision iever no, it wasn't the best decision i ever made asking my wife to marry me . marry me. >> oh, that's very sensible because she's probably watching >> oh, that's very sensible be listeninge's probably watching >> oh, that's very sensible be listeninge's p|it's bly watching >> oh, that's very sensible be listeninge's p|it's very/atching >> oh, that's very sensible be listeninge's p|it's very wise ng or listening and it's very wise . good good man. so you . good man, good man. so you did. you did all this. you did the sports degree. how did you get into setting up boxercise? what was that? what was the transition that was really unusual get accused of unusual because i get accused of having kind of magical having some kind of magical eureka moment. >> wasn't that at what >> it wasn't that at all. what happened we boxing club happened was we had boxing club and i was more experienced than the other boxers that were there. so i helped coach them. and finally we boxing and finally we built a boxing team at uni . the club team at brunel uni. the club still runs today. i'm very proud to not with my to say, though not with my involvement and what happened

was we had a lot of people that wanted to do the training but didn't want to get punched in the face. understandably so. so what was would what happened was they would say, come and do some say, could we come and do some training you after ? so we training with you after? so we just it after boxing just called it after boxing club. we didn't have a name for it and we used that money, just £51, everybody coming in to raise money to buy equipment for the boxing club because we wanted to the boxers because we didn't have any equipment at all. and one of the girls that came there , a young lady called came there, a young lady called emma, she said, i like this boxing exercise . and then just boxing exercise. and then just in a bit of a light bulb moment again, we put the name together and it became boxercise that then became a class that lots of people then came to and then what happened after that was the there were other people knew that this was popular and they said, could you train me to do this now? i was working for uk athletics as a coach educator already and had been since i was 1718. so i knew how to design

that kind of program. i put it together and put it together with boxing knowledge and came up with something to educate coaches. and it's evolved a lot over the years. but in the early years that's how it came to be. wow >> and so now where is it now? because i know you've got a lot of i'm 54 country now, 54 countries. >> i know i never thought it would ever grow to be anything you must be as big as that. no, no, no, no . no, no, no. >> i wish you rich . >> i wish you rich. >> i wish you rich. >> how many? so you've got how many people , then? it must be many people, then? it must be thousands and thousands of people. >> there are . there are 30,000 >> there are. there are 30,000 plus we've trained . there plus that we've trained. there are, i think about 7 or 8000 currently teaching in the uk alone . um a currently teaching in the uk alone. um a lot. and currently teaching in the uk alone . um a lot. and worldwide alone. um a lot. and worldwide there are 5 million people taking part in classes or personal training sessions involving boxercise . and in the involving boxercise. and in the uk alone it's about 22.

million. >> wow, that's incredible . from >> wow, that's incredible. from from nothing to that, i never thought that it would have such an effect. >> i've never really focussed on. what i focus on is just delivering a really good quality product and training people to do their job as well as they can. we get a lot of people, we get fitness instructors , others, get fitness instructors, others, sports coaches , armed services sports coaches, armed services personnel and then, you know, people as well. veterans on resettlement coming through, doing their training. well, you've brought some gloves , so you've brought some gloves, so you've brought some gloves, so you've got a hat and you've got like a hat and gloves. i have, yes. >> got like pinky ones. oh, >> i've got like pinky ones. oh, this is nice . this is nice. >> oh, they're pretty ones. >> oh, they're pretty ones. >> pinky ones . >> pinky ones. >> pinky ones. >> the nice ones. in >> i brought the nice ones. in fact , is because you're fact, this is not because you're a is purely because a lady. this is purely because these were the gloves that i had in the cardboard box. is it at home? so there was no choice in colour at all. >> i'll do them up once they're on. >> that's always the difficulty, isn't it ? where are we going to stand? >> i don't know. just here then. come on, i'll do it. i'll just punch. you know what, dumas?

what the. as an instructor, i already in high heels. >> that's it. just set your range first. >> okay, so there you go. >> okay, so there you go. >> so let's with this hand >> so let's set with this hand set there . set with there. >> that's one, two, boom, boom, boom. >> so punch across. yeah this one, two there and two there. that's it then that's it. that's it then reset. that's it. one, then move the head one, two. and then move the head twice as always. looks good if you your head twice. you move your head twice. generally punches you move your head twice. general back. punches you move your head twice. generalback. one punches you move your head twice. generalback. one to punches you move your head twice. generalback. one to move res you move your head twice. generalback. one to move twice, coming back. one to move twice, one to move the head twice . and one to move the head twice. and it looks like she's avoiding just this. >> this is great. >> this is great. >> this is i must admit, i feel much more at home with the pads on talking than just sitting and talking. >> so talk to me then. so very briefly, because we're running out of time. where is it going now? i know you've done now? because i know you've done some very exciting thing that's coming about one minute some very exciting thing that's cominidevelopingt one minute some very exciting thing that's cominideveloping oure minute some very exciting thing that's cominideveloping our online:e where developing our online offering, we are also developing courses at a&e wake coaching .com, which are aimed at not just coaches so that to help normal people. >> we're also working .

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and with winds lighter compared to the weekend, it will just feel warmer. feel that bit warmer. temperatures ranging between 18 and 23 c for tuesday, though , we and 23 c for tuesday, though, we have to watch as our next low pressure centre is going to push its in from the west. so its way in from the west. so turning quite first turning quite damp. first thing on tuesday for northern on tuesday morning for northern ireland. rain will then ireland. and that rain will then steadily its way into steadily progress its way into parts of northern wales, steadily progress its way into parts of england wales, steadily progress its way into parts of england andes, steadily progress its way into parts of england and scotland northern england and scotland later south—east, later on the far south—east, generally drier. but generally staying drier. but there is still the chance of further showers do head further showers as we do head towards rest of the week by towards the rest of the week by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on gb news >> yeah, it's kind of cold for june, isn't it? what was july even? what was going on? this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. still to come. new laws from italy's conservative prime minister, which erases the names of gay mothers from their children's birth certificates. what do you think? we'll be discussing that. but next, we'll be continuing with great british debate with the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, should

the simply get rid the tories just simply get rid of

news. the people's channel or britain's news . news. the people's channel or britain's news. channel >> 25 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. welcome if you've just tuned in, where have you been? it's time now, though, for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking should tories get i'm asking should the tories get rid inheritance rid of inheritance tax now, number holding number 10 is reportedly holding talks making scrapping talks about making the scrapping of the inheritance tax part of

its manifesto pledge an its manifesto pledge in an attempt win over voters attempt to win over voters in the general election. now, the next general election. now, the next general election. now, the rate of inheritance tax is currently at 40% for estates worth more than 325,000, which is charged on the portion that is charged on the portion that is above the threshold. and this but the estates of spouses and civil partners can pass on up to about £1 million without any inheritance tax liability. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should the tories just simply get rid of it? i'm joined now by belinda de lucy, mep, lucy, former brexit party mep, political peter political commentator peter spencen spencer, former political correspondent , recent guest correspondent, recent guest eliot keck , head of campaigns eliot keck, head of campaigns and taxpayers alliance, and and the taxpayers alliance, and angela knight, former economic secretary to the treasury of the uk . wow. i'm going to uk. wow. right. i'm going to start you, eliot. just so start with you, eliot. just so what do you think then? talk to me about the inheritance tax threshold, 325,000 or 1 million threshold, 325,000 or1 million if you're if you've got a spouse. if we scrap it, is that a good thing or a bad thing? what's the deal? if we scrap it, what do we lose? it's a absolutely a good thing. >> inheritance tax is

distortionary unfair and immoral i >> -- >> it's distortionary because people economic people make their economic decisions based on reducing their scrap. >> is a liability. >> it is a liability. >> it is a liability. >> it is absolutely >> scrapping it is absolutely the right thing to do. it's unfair because it's form of unfair because it's a form of double it's immoral double taxation and it's immoral because people because it's paid for by people who suffering from who are suffering from bereavement. almost by definition , they're quite slow definition, they're quite slow sometimes dealing with sometimes at dealing with probate well. probate as well. >> so sometimes you end up paying >> so sometimes you end up paying on tax paying the interest on the tax because finished paying the interest on the tax because as finished paying the interest on the tax because as well, finished paying the interest on the tax because as well, which nished probate as well, which is somewhat order. let's go somewhat out of order. let's go to knight. she's the to angela knight. she's the former economic secretary to the treasury uk. angela treasury of the uk. angela >> that's just sort of >> well, that's just sort of rehearse the details for a moment. i may, nana and then moment. if i may, nana and then i'll jump in what i see as i'll jump in with what i see as a solution, because course a solution, because of course there isn't inheritance tax there isn't any inheritance tax if it's and wife or wife if it's husband and wife or wife to husband. as rightly to husband. and as you rightly point if you if you point out, that if you if you factor in your house and you leave it to say, your children, then the threshold goes up from 325,000 to 1 million or thereabouts . so there's quite thereabouts. so there's quite a lot in there which you can find your ways round inheritance tax and who it hits big time is a large number of people with

houses that have gone up in price that sit particularly in the south east, but also in other pockets around the country . and as you've also said earlier , people have paid tax on earlier, people have paid tax on this money once and now they're paying this money once and now they're paying it a second time. to me, the reality of inheritance, inheritance tax is it's the wrong tax and it shouldn't be there from a practical perspective. and if i was a politician still, which i'm not and haven't been for a long time, i would say if i try and remove move inheritance tax in a series of moves, i'm far more likely to get to the right outcome , um, than if i say i'm outcome, um, than if i say i'm going to sweep it away. sweeping it away . i'm going to be in a it away. i'm going to be in a big political argument. tax breaks for the rich and all that sort of thing. but if i start off indexing it, i.e. off with indexing it, i.e. increase threshold in line increase the threshold in line with inflation and do a few more things around the side, then i could a much better could get to a much better result out early without having that political debate, which is always going to be a very difficult debate to have , and difficult debate to have, and especially of economic

especially in times of economic difficulties peter spencer difficulties, as peter spencer well, it would suit me very nicely if they did abolish it and it would suit my kids as well. >> but good heavens , is that a >> but good heavens, is that a load of pigs i can see floating around, flying around? oh no, it's a dead cat. >> look , the government is >> look, the government is facing three by elections in a few days time, and rishi sunak has all but admitted he's going to lose and thus making him the first prime minister to lose three by elections in the same day since harold wilson. >> here's a nice little bit >> so here's a nice little bit of qatar zip. >> it very likely won't change the result of the of the by elections, but it might just help to sort of spare some of their blushes because there's going to be some of those voters , traditional tory voters who might be wavering, saying, hey, maybe these guys are not quite so bad after all, so maybe i won't vote. >> lib dem or labour, maybe i will vote for the conservatives. >> but will this translate into policy? will they actually dump £7 billion a year? in your

dreams guys. >> belinda de lucy i think if the conservative is committed to scrapping it now before the next election , it might help them. election, it might help them. >> but the idea that they've got the trust of the voters and they're going to put it in a pledge in the next manifesto, i just don't think there's a huge amount of trust and belief that that will actually turn into policy eventually . and the death policy eventually. and the death tax is a repugnant policy. it's morally in defensible. many countries don't even have it like new zealand, australia, norway, sweden, mexico, because because it is so morally in defensible. and i do think the conservatives are panicking a bit, obviously, and want to throw us some crumbs, but a sort of pledge in the next election isn't going to cut it. if they scrap it now, they'll put on their big boy pants and do something bold for once and get it done. i think that will it done. i think that that will be fair and the uk does have a great sense of fair play and the death tax is a horrific tax that hits people when they're grieving. it double. as as has

been mentioned , double taxes. been mentioned, double taxes. and i think it'll be good if they do it now, not if they they do it now, but not if they just they're going to pledge just say they're going to pledge it manifesto . it in the next manifesto. >> listen, you for >> well, listen, thank you for your of you. your thoughts. all of you. beunda your thoughts. all of you. belinda lucy, spencer, belinda de lucy, peter spencer, elliot also angela elliot keck, and also angela knight, so much for knight, thank you so much for your thank this your thoughts. thank you. this is news tv online and on is gb news on tv online and on digital radio way, digital radio on the way, a controversial move for the italian regarding italian prime minister regarding some next, some same sex parents. but next, we'll continue with our great british hour. and british debate this hour. and i'm the tories i'm asking, should the tories get inheritance tax? get rid of inheritance tax? but first, get your first, let's get your latest news . hi there. news headlines. hi there. >> very good evening to you. it's 5:30 here in the gb newsroom . i'm the business newsroom. i'm the business secretary kemi badenoch says britain is now closer to having access to a market of 500 million people and a potential £12 trillion worth of global trade. the uk has become the first european country to formally join the indo—pacific bloc , which should remove bloc, which should remove barriers to doing business and make some everyday items

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general election. the rate general election. now, the rate of insurance inheritance tax is currently 40% for estates worth more than £325,000, which is charged on the portion that is above the threshold . but estates above the threshold. but estates of spouses and civil partners can they can pass on. they can pass on £1 million without any inheritance tax liability at all. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking , debate this hour, i'm asking, should the tories simply scrap the tax altogether? let's see what panel make of that. i'm what my panel make of that. i'm joined by danny kelly and also chris wild . chris wild, what do chris wild. chris wild, what do you think? yeah it's interesting. >> it's divided the communities. it's divided the nation. i've heard it on the radio politically. everybody's talking about this right now. where do i stand on this? it's a good question. is that i think it shouldn't scrapped. and shouldn't be scrapped. and the reason shouldn't be reason i think it shouldn't be scrapped it scrapped is, as i heard, it shouldn't be. it shouldn't. and for reasons that's a lot for reasons being, that's a lot of to lose a lot of of money to lose and a lot of that goes back into that money goes back into society. we're not an society. we we're not an independent. are a society. independent. we are a society. we rely on to build we rely on that to money build houses the houses and it goes back into the system. we should system. so for me, we should keep but bear in mind that

keep it. but bear in mind that the people who are paying for it are usually those who aren't the people who are paying for it are usenoughose who aren't the people who are paying for it are usenough and nho aren't the people who are paying for it are usenough and knowren't the people who are paying for it are usenough and know the rules. savvy enough and know the rules. >> the who've got savvy enough and know the rules. >> of|e who've got savvy enough and know the rules. >> of|e sort�*no've got loads of money sort of circumnavigate so it's well, circumnavigate it. so it's well, and i also think it's a dog whistle for the tory party just and i also think it's a dog wikind for the tory party just and i also think it's a dog wikind of' the tory party just and i also think it's a dog wikind of gets tory party just and i also think it's a dog wikind of get votes party just and i also think it's a dog wikind of get votes andy just and i also think it's a dog wikind of get votes and the it to kind of get votes and the argument does favour the argument is it does favour the rich, the rich, it doesn't favour the poon >> q’- @ think, you know, >> and i just think, you know, it's a complicated thing talk it's a complicated thing to talk aboutin it's a complicated thing to talk about in fryston tax. it really is. it's i think for me, is. and it's i think for me, 40% is. and it's i think for me, 40% is of money lose is a lot of money to lose weight. find that money. >> you've been taxed twice, though. already paid for though. you've already paid for the thing you've been for. the thing you've been taxed for. no, they're no, you're dead and they're going take you again. going to take it from you again. >> life. but tell me, >> but that's life. but tell me, how. where are we going to get that life is that money from? his life is death. i i fear death. death. but i fear. i fear they'll. they'll take it from other place. i don't want other place. and i don't want him education. him to take it from education. i don't take it from the don't want to take it from the care sector. it's there. it's a lot of money. it's good use. we should keep it. >> your kids, danny. >> 325 grand nowadays, even in working class areas, 325 grand doesn't house. doesn't get you much of a house. you have just you know, the houses have just spiked price. spiked in price. >> in the labour party >> not even in the labour party would bring it down about 100. >> yeah, i read that one the

>> yeah, i read that one of the quotes, 125 grand. >> of the >> that was one of the suggestions. i know suggestions. i don't know whether actually pledge, whether it's actually a pledge, but it's one of the suggestions in would in the manifesto which would bnng bring everybody into it pretty much. a shame that >> i think it's a shame that rishi sunak has floated this just ahead of some by elections. rishi sunak has floated this justa head of some by elections. rishi sunak has floated this justa head ofthatre by elections. rishi sunak has floated this justa head ofthat you're lections. rishi sunak has floated this justa head ofthat you're in:tions. rishi sunak has floated this justa head ofthat you're in such. it's a shame that you're in such a weakened position you a weakened position that you have something like have to give something like this. for example, boris johnson, or johnson, whether you love or hate 3 4 years ago, he hate him, 3 or 4 years ago, he wouldn't to have wouldn't have had to have offered this meat, if you offered this red meat, if you like, voters or like, to floating voters or conservatives. it's shame conservatives. so it's a shame that tory party is so weak that the tory party is so weak at the moment. >> everything red >> but why is everything red meat opportunity comes meat when an opportunity comes along be of benefit? along that could be of benefit? why? because ultimately, look, they've coming they've got an election coming up within a year or a year and a half yeah. so anything will half max. yeah. so anything will be meat, a strong party be red meat, a strong party wouldn't need wouldn't have had to have done it. wouldn't need wouldn't have had to ithat'syne it. wouldn't need wouldn't have had to ithat's myit. wouldn't need wouldn't have had to ithat's my point. a weakened >> that's my point. a weakened party their knees party who who is on their knees or desperate for votes. so they've had to throw something out, how out, whereas that 7 billion. how is recut is that going to be recut elsewhere? it's elsewhere? absolutely. it's going to have to be recovered elsewhere . one that no one's. >> well, what about those big companies loads and companies that make loads and loads especially loads of money, especially the ones pandemic? they ones through the pandemic? they could off could take some big taxes off them this

them and get rid of this inheritance altogether . inheritance tax altogether. >> you could do now that >> well, you could do now that that tactic, a vote that would be a tactic, a vote winner socialists around winner for socialists all around the united kingdom. but don't the united kingdom. but we don't live socialist country. we live in a socialist country. we live in a socialist country. we live a i think we do live in a i think we do actually, the way they're behaving. >> but anyway, one thing that no one's mentioned anyway, i thought throw in if thought i'd just throw in if someone left £325,000. someone has left £325,000. >> that this tax >> one reason that this tax exists is that you are less likely to go out and actually work and earn tax for the government. you are less likely work and earn tax for the gcyou're ent. you are less likely work and earn tax for the gcyou're ent. y course you are. >> of course you are. >> the government is going >> and the government is going to years and half. >> i'm just that's my point. >> i'm just that's my point. >> all a sudden, you become >> all of a sudden, you become less a tax contributor. less of a tax contributor. you just you've given half just you've just been given half £1 million because you've lost your or whatever, your mom and dad or whatever, which a terrible thing. which is a terrible thing. i don't death tax, don't like the term death tax, but for emotive. but they've paid for emotive. no. yes, but all of a sudden someone from a someone is benefiting from a massive maybe 6 or massive estate, maybe 6 or 700 grand they less likely grand and they are less likely to go to work to generate tax for the i was going to say the death and no one's ever death tax. and no one's ever said death actually

said the death tax is actually the mortgage. said the death tax is actually the and tgage. said the death tax is actually the and i'm|e. you have said >> and i'm glad you have said that. really brought that to that. you really brought that to the surface. that's true, though, coui'se. >> course. >> listen, listen, listen, chris, you're not here to agree with chris, you're not here to agree witilook, we disagree. >> look, we disagree. >> look, we disagree. >> not coming. >> he's not coming. >> he's not coming. >> coming back. >> he's not coming back. >> he's not coming back. >> not coming >> i'm not coming back. >> i'm not coming back. >> blooded capitalist, >> red blooded capitalist, and he's i'm just he's not. but you are. i'm just thinking it the thinking about it from the government's perspective. if i was government, i would want was the government, i would want to make sure continue to to make sure you continue to work, want you 40. work, because i want you 40. >> that's all very well. >> well, that's all very well. but general but then being the general pubuc but then being the general public that you public and the person that you are paid the tax are having already paid the tax and already paying the and already paying tax on the assets have, you're assets that you have, you're quite the fact quite comfortable with the fact that think they should that you don't think they should scrap it. i they scrap it. yeah, i think they should absolutely it. and should absolutely scrap it. and in like new in decent countries like new zealand like zealand and places like that, they've it because it they've scrapped it because it doesn't really bring in the money they're expecting money that they're expecting it to know how many are in >> know how many people are in new there's about 60. new zealand? there's about 60. >> can't use that >> exactly. you can't use that as comparison. >> exactly. you can't use that as there's|rison. >> exactly. you can't use that as there's ason. >> exactly. you can't use that as there's a million sheep >> there's a million sheep and about 60. >> the only country. >> that's not the only country. there are other countries as well. them. all well. so it's not just them. all right? it's not just them. right? so it's not just them. that's example. right? so it's not just them. that's britain,e. right? so it's not just them. that's britain, not new zealand. >> exactly. >> w- e okay. so. so in >> well, well, okay. so. so in your view then, government your view then, the government should tax.

should keep the inheritance tax. you're it at the you're happy with it at the threshold 325,000. threshold at 325,000. >> dough isn't it? it's >> a lot of dough isn't it? it's a lot money. it's a lot of a lot of money. it's a lot of dough. much more do dough. how much more dough do you than three? you want than three? >> 20. and what about in terms of the stuff of because a lot of the stuff they for example, they do. so, for example, probate, it takes them ages to do it should take do probate. it should only take a if you haven't a short time. but if you haven't paid tax of inheritance paid the tax of the inheritance tax within the first months, paid the tax of the inheritance t.thinkhin the first months, paid the tax of the inheritance t.think it] the first months, paid the tax of the inheritance t.think it is, |e first months, paid the tax of the inheritance t.think it is, then;t months, paid the tax of the inheritance t.think it is, then they months, paid the tax of the inheritance t.think it is, then they start:hs, i think it is, then they start charging interest for charging you the interest for the you would have charging you the interest for the had you would have charging you the interest for the had you you would have charging you the interest for the had you soldou would have charging you the interest for the had you sold thatould have charging you the interest for the had you sold that asset.ave charging you the interest for the had you sold that asset. so got had you sold that asset. so if the asset goes up in value, then tax that pay will then the tax that you pay will be when the asset is be even more when the asset is eventually your for eventually get your money for probate. thing is a mess. >> the government needs taxation in exist. in order to exist. >> course does, but it's >> of course it does, but it's not. to grow to grow. not. and to grow and to grow. and labour don't and the labour party don't aboush and the labour party don't abolish all. some of them abolish it at all. some of them are agreement with this. are in agreement with this. >> you're in agreement. so if they to hundred and they lower it to hundred and £25,000, you'd be happy with that? wouldn't. >> no, i wouldn't. >> no, i wouldn't. >> oh, on, hang on. >> oh, hang on, hang on. >> oh, hang on, hang on. >> no, no. your gloves are off. >> no, no. your gloves are off. >> you don't to do that. >> you don't to do that. >> let's see. >> well, let's see. >> well, let's see. >> not happy with and >> i'm not happy with three and a quarter. >> i'm not happy with three and a qmaybe viewers have got >> maybe the viewers have got something more sensible to say than nothing than you do. the show is nothing without on without them. welcome them on their opportunity to say what

they feel the topics they feel about the topics we're discussing. they feel about the topics we're discllet's|. they feel about the topics we're discllet's start with ford you. let's start with julie ford there julie ford, you. let's start with julie ford therealso julie ford, you. let's start with julie ford therealso doubles ulie ford, you. let's start with julie ford therealso doubles upe ford, who also doubles up as a property expert as well. julie what what you make of what do you what do you make of these this this these people this this inheritance tax? surely it's awful to be awful for me nana to be perfectly with you. perfectly honest with you. >> that, >> it's one of those taxes that, again, society again, is not fit for society today. >> was great when it was >> it was great when it was first brought in because the whole was that the whole idea of it was so that the wealthy and the rich didn't compound their wealth just by inheriting property and not being able to put that back into society. so at the time it was a great idea and it worked. now in society today, it's not fit for purpose . i don't think it should purpose. i don't think it should be abolished altogether , but i be abolished altogether, but i certainly think it needs to be revisited and readjusted because otherwise where are we going to get that £8 billion income? we're going to have to try and find it somewhere else. and that's for me. that's the important bit for me. >> . thank you for that, >> right. thank you for that, sensible let's to sensible words. let's go to armin brecht. new voice. armin brecht. he's a new voice. he's croydon. armin hi i >> -- >> hi, nana. lam em

lam >> hi, nana. i think i think we should. i think we should scrap the inheritance tax. >> i think it's fair for the families. and i think, you know, families. and i think, you know, families have worked hard for what they've got. and so why shouldn't families just keep their wealth ? their wealth? >> i mean , put it back on it, >> i mean, put it back on it, put it back on it. >> sorry. carry on, armin . >> sorry. carry on, armin. >> sorry. carry on, armin. >> sorry. carry on, armin. >> sorry. could you hear me? >> sorry. could you hear me? >> yeah, we could hear you. armin. carry on. sorry. >> could you hear me? >> could you hear me? >> yeah, yeah. carry on. you were saying? >> yeah, yeah. carry on. you weryeah,ng? >> yeah, yeah. carry on. you weryeah,n1know . no, no, think. >> i think it's fair that the families should keep their wealth. have it wealth. why should they have it taken all taken away? you know, we've all worked what we've got. worked hard for what we've got. >> should we it taken away? >> also, i think the other one is the stamp duty, which is like the . the stamp duty the insult tax. the stamp duty is the insult tax, where people want to better themselves or why should they have to pay more tax to buy a house? >> i agree with you. david balme, let's go over to watford to have a chat with david balme i >> k- k— >> hi, nana. hi, tim. >> hi, nana. hi, tim. >> uh, i agree partially that we do need some form of taxation,

but raise the threshold to something like £2 million where those who can actually afford it for the majority of people, when you buy your house, you pay stamp duty on it. >> tax already on >> you're paying tax already on everything you're buying. and >> you're paying tax already on everywhen you're buying. and >> you're paying tax already on everywhen you re buying. and >> you're paying tax already on everywhen you dieiuying. and >> you're paying tax already on everywhen you die ,ying. and >> you're paying tax already on everywhen you die , your and >> you're paying tax already on everywhen you die , your family then when you die, your family or whoever you decide to leave your property to have to pay tax on it again. >> so it's like double bubble for the government. so i think if you could raise the threshold to something million, to something like 2 million, which takes out a majority which takes out a vast majority of people's houses , it's it of people's houses, it's it would be a vote winner for most because no one will reject to say bev turner park, whatever the big , big say bev turner park, whatever the big, big homes where the stately homes where they're worth millions paying their share on those. >> well, i'm with you . yeah. >> well, i'm with you. yeah. this is these are sensible people. unlike to the my left or right or whatever . thank you right or whatever. thank you very much to julie there in bedford . oh, and in croydon and bedford. oh, and in croydon and david in watford. brilliant, brilliant brilliant brilliant voices. brilliant voices right, well , what do voices. all right, well, what do you think as well? please send in those messages to us. gb

views that gbnews.com or tweet me at news. right onto me at gb news. right onto another caught my another story that caught my eye. today, is to eye. now today, italy is to erase the names of lesbian mothers from their child's birth certificate in a crackdown against same sex parenting and surrogacy . and now the move is surrogacy. and now the move is led by prime minister giorgia meloni, who disapproves of the lgbt. plus couples raising children together . she says the children together. she says the country's laws do not allow children to have two mothers. so basically they take one of the mothers off the birth certificate same unions certificate. same sex unions were legalised in italy in 2016, granting many rights to married couples, but stopped of couples, but stopped short of permitting adoption permitting marriage and adoption amid opposition the amid fierce opposition from the catholic . so let's see catholic church. so let's see what panel make that. what my panel make of that. joining me, danny kelly, and also chris wylde. kelly. also chris wylde. danny kelly. yeah >> okay. what do i think of that look, think just a normal look, i think i'm just a normal sort of bloke and think normal sort of bloke and i think normal blokes do do their heart skip a beat with joy when they see a same sex couple with a kid . i same sex couple with a kid. i don't think they do . i'm a bit don't think they do. i'm a bit of a traditionalist, but what they're doing in italy is they

are removing the name of not the biological mum but the actual the other mum. okay. so which i think is a callous thing to do. i think it's, it's callous. i think people who are in same sex relationships , if they want relationships, if they want a child, then they should be able to have a child. it's not like they're taking a child from somebody this child somebody else. this child wouldn't be the planet if it wouldn't be on the planet if it wasn't them. wouldn't be on the planet if it wasbut them. wouldn't be on the planet if it wasbut whatzm. wouldn't be on the planet if it wasbut what would you say to the >> but what would you say to the argument birth argument that the birth certificate the certificate demonstrates the mother father? so the mother and the father? so the two this child two contributors to this child who made child so who have made this child so that's that's in that respect. so let's take take away the whole the same sex element of it. but take a look at the biological aspect of it, because it. but take a look at the biyou ical aspect of it, because it. but take a look at the biyou were spect of it, because it. but take a look at the biyou were sp> yeah. i find it. i find >> yeah. and i find it. i find it repugnant this it quite repugnant reading this , if i'm honest with you. i work within and you within a care sector and you can't of can't believe the amount of young who to same young people who who go to same sex families as women, men and

to hear stuff like this, it's just like it's going back into the archaic days. it's dickensian, it's disgusting. >> i don't i don't i don't >> but i don't i don't i don't know what i think about that. i don't really have an opinion on it either way. me , it either way. but to me, ultimately very biology ultimately i'm a very biology based person. so if i want the people who made that child on the for the sake the certificate for the sake of the certificate for the sake of the child, for child to know the child, for the child to know who that's who those people are, that's that's biological side who those people are, that's th.it.; biological side who those people are, that's th.it.; i biological side who those people are, that's th.it.; i get biological side who those people are, that's th.it.; i get the ogical side who those people are, that's th.it.; i get the emotional of it. but i get the emotional side two people are side that these two people are the irrespective of the parents, irrespective of whether or women or whether they're men or women or whatever. so but for me , it's whatever. so but for me, it's the biological aspect. that's why i would have both the male and who made that child and female who made that child there. but don't that's there. but don't forget, that's the only reason. >> we're talking the only reason. >> italy, we're talking the only reason. >> italy, weisz talking the only reason. >> italy, weis an lking about italy, which is an incredibly compared to the uk compared to incredibly religious country . and this is a conflict country. and this is a conflict between religion and same sex families . okay. and we can't families. okay. and we can't dismiss religion and people's beliefs over modern 21st century liberal views . they still have a liberal views. they still have a right of an opinion. but i think it's callous to remove the non biological mum from the birth

certificate. >> absolutely. dana, i just second that as well. sometimes then parents don't deserve that child. they deserve to child. they don't deserve to be on certificate. them child. they don't deserve to be on are certificate. them child. they don't deserve to be on are cto:ificate. them child. they don't deserve to be on are (to give :e. them child. they don't deserve to be on are (to give that|em child. they don't deserve to be on are (to give that child two are going to give that child a then are a loving home and then they are the they deserve to be the parents. they deserve to be on birth certificate with on the birth certificate with you on that. >> that you on that. >> ultimately, that is the way it the who it is, isn't it? the people who care child, should care for the child, they should be birth certificate be on the birth certificate right though, time for right now, though, it's time for supplements me and supplements sunday where me and my discuss of the my panel discuss some of the news that caught their news stories that caught their eye. so let's see. i'm joined by author campaigner chris author and campaigner chris wilde and broadcast on wilde and also broadcast on journalist kelly, whom journalist danny kelly, whom let's start with danny then. danny, your supplements about passing of the west midlands legend tony butler very sad. >> i may not have mentioned on this show before, but i'm ex—bbc spent 1560 of all this time to say it on air and when local radio actually mattered to communities, local radio typically now doesn't matter to communities. but in the heyday of the 90s, the 80s and the 2000, there was a fella called tony who, unless you're tony butler who, unless you're from you from the west midlands, you won't name . but he won't even know the name. but he pioneered the football phone—in so when you listen to talksport

or listen to radio or when you listen to radio five, live the phone—in was pioneered by a fella called tony butler, was a real character butler, who was a real character . he died at the age of 88, which a decent age. and i which is a decent age. and i think that like to just think that i would like to just bnng think that i would like to just bring name to nation bring his name to the nation because it his idea because because it was his idea to have people phoning in, moaning football. moaning about football. >> that's good. so bless his >> oh, that's good. so bless his heart. god rest his soul. the fabulous tony butler, right. tony griswold . tony griswold. >> yes. i just want to bring to your the your attention. so the independent for independent care review for england published in january england was published in january this i was a part of that this year. i was a part of that review. uh, we wanted to make care experience a protected characteristic because we thought young people in care, they're the only people in our society who have the corporate corporate parent as a parent. and when they get to 18, they fall the cliff. there's no fall off the cliff. there's no support whatsoever. and a campaign a great campaign was started by a great man galloway. and man called terry galloway. and ed, the government kind of opposed this. but what he's done is he's going around every council country council all over the country getting the council to pass a motion experience motion to make care, experience a protected characteristic. so what it gives the

what that does, it gives the most vulnerable people in our society voice. stops them society a voice. it stops them going jail . prevents going into jail. it prevents them into these them being placed into these dilapidated houses in deprived areas. it absolutely gives them areas. it absolutely gives them a voice. it gives them more opportunities thrive. and a voice. it gives them more opportwhates thrive. and a voice. it gives them more oppor1what it's thrive. and a voice. it gives them more oppor1what it's all'ive. and a voice. it gives them more oppor1what it's all about. d a voice. it gives them more oppor1what it's all about. and that's what it's all about. and that's what it's all about. and that's today. and that's my story of today. and it's really heartfelt. and look out this because it will out for this because it will happen. and government happen. and hopefully government will make it a legislation. >> i don't fully what you >> so i don't fully get what you mean , although i thought was mean, although i thought it was a speech . i don't know a great speech. i don't know what talking about, what what he's talking about, what he's de—man he's talking about. de—man talking about some care experience . experience. >> yeah. so people in the care sector, people thinking the same thing, they face all kinds of all kinds discrimination in all kinds of discrimination in they face kinds of they face all kinds of discrimination when they leave care and what do , basically care and what they do, basically they cliff. they they fall off the cliff. they can't houses when can't get houses because when they try and get house they go and try and get a house and landlord says , oh, and the landlord says, oh, you're in care, no, we don't want from care. you're in care, no, we don't warso from care. you're in care, no, we don't warso they from care. you're in care, no, we don't warso they have] care. you're in care, no, we don't warso they have to care. you're in care, no, we don't warso they have to makez. you're in care, no, we don't warso they have to make that >> so they have to make that about >> okay. >> okay. >> but still none the way you still no right . well, finally, still no right. well, finally, only because i was thinking what about me? it's mine. it's me. no. so finally to my

no. so finally on to my supplement. this is about private keir private schools and sir keir starmer to the starmer tax plan to strip the independent their independent schools of their charitable status, would charitable status, which would cost for cost them exemptions for corporation tax vat on corporation tax and vat on private school leaders have warned the scrapping of the warned that the scrapping of the charitable will push up charitable status will push up fees parents. but chris, charitable status will push up fees do parents. but chris, charitable status will push up fees do you nts. but chris, charitable status will push up fees do you think ut chris, charitable status will push up fees do you thinkut ithis? do what do you think of this? do you wise to me, you think this is a wise to me, it's robin move, but what it's a robin hood move, but what do briefly? you've do you think? briefly? you've got 20s. got about 20 20s. >> it's really good. >> no, i think it's really good. i it says, it i think what it says, what it says, what's the vat. says, what's so put the vat. >> the charitable >> so remove the charitable status from these and status from these schools and make more . make them pay more. >> the parents listen quickly. so removing charitable status, what's going to do is it's going to they're going to the cost. to they're going to up the cost. so to force more kids so it's going to force more kids into schools. state so it's going to force more kids into are :hools. state so it's going to force more kids into are alreadystate so it's going to force more kids into are already overwhelmed. schools are already overwhelmed. but the labour thing on but i get the labour thing on this. a levelling policy this. it's a levelling up policy where 70% found levelling down, but 70% of people go to private school and get better grades than from lower schools. than those from lower schools. >> about they improve the >> so how about they improve the state school system? >> what should state school system? >> well, what should state school system? >> well, exactly. it should do. well, exactly. >> that, it's >> instead of that, it's difficult, it? difficult, isn't it? >> predominantly kids difficult, isn't it? >> go predominantly kids difficult, isn't it? >> go statedominantly kids difficult, isn't it? >> go statedominancomeis who go to state schools come from families . and from poorer families. and unfortunately, statistically proven that if you come from a poorer of town, you're less

poorer part of town, you're less likely succeed while you're likely to succeed while you're less likely to succeed. maybe likely to succeed while you're less larey to succeed. maybe likely to succeed while you're less lare too succeed. maybe likely to succeed while you're less lare too manyed. maybe likely to succeed while you're less lare too many distractions there are too many distractions , the classroom , both in the classroom and outside yeah, , both in the classroom and outijust yeah, , both in the classroom and outijust a yeah, , both in the classroom and outijust a fact yeah, , both in the classroom and outijust a fact life. yeah, it's just a fact of life. >> yeah. yeah okay. so you haven't even said anything about the though. the thing itself though. so the private you private schools then do you think? >> t- think? >> you're right. >> i think you're right. >> i think you're right. >> am right. that's. that's >> i am right. that's. that's all i need hear. really all i need to hear. really remove the charitable status? no, you should no, i don't think you should remove charitable status remove the charitable status at all, are the all, because those are the private schools aren't just these schools. they private schools aren't just thes

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