access to £12 trillion create access to £12 trillion worth of global trade . however, worth of global trade. however, official estimates suggest it will add just 1.8 billion a year to the uk economy. after ten years representing less than 1% of uk gdp . years representing less than 1% of uk gdp. nigel years representing less than 1% of uk gdp . nigel huddleston of uk gdp. nigel huddleston though the international trade minister, told gb news it will help to grow the economy. >> we're talking about billions of pounds of additional economic activity right across the country. it will benefit every nafion country. it will benefit every nation and region of the uk, not just about where we are now, now, but where this could go in the future as well, because we expect the membership of cptpp to expand over the coming years. so i wouldn't be too obsessed with the current numbers this is about potential growth about the potential growth for the uk economy. >> labour leader , sir >> well, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says the trade deal a start, but its impact deal is a start, but its impact shouldn't be over estimated. deal is a start, but its impact shoany 't be over estimated. deal is a start, but its impact shoany trade over estimated. deal is a start, but its impact shoany trade dealastimated. deal is a start, but its impact shoany trade deal is, mated. deal is a start, but its impact shoany trade deal is, isated. deal is a start, but its impact shoany trade deal is, is good . i >> any trade deal is, is good. i wouldn't call this one massive, but it's certainly not a plan for growth and the problem is we've not had a plan for growth for 13 years under this

government. we still haven't got a plan for growth. so us look, a trade deal is always a step in the right direction. but this is not plan growth . and it's not a plan for growth. and it's that to plan for that failure to have a plan for growth left us in the growth that's left us in the economic mess that we're in. the home secretary has published a letter keir starmer letter to sir keir starmer alleging labour member of alleging a labour member of staff had private meetings with representatives just stop representatives from just stop oil and extinction rebellion. >> suella bravermans claiming internal memos from just stop oil show mp jess morton met the environmental groups to convince them how labour is still driven by the environment. the home secretary called for the sacking of ms morton, but sir keir has rebuffed claims, saying none of his team are meeting with just stop oil. the environmental group have responded in a tweet claiming suella braverman is inventing to distract inventing stories to distract from the truth. well, novak djokovic is facing a real battle against carlos alcaraz if he's to win a record equalling eighth men's title at wimbledon. djokovic, the defending

champion, took the first set six one in just 34 minutes. but the world number one alcaraz hit back, winning the second on a tie break and taking the third by six games to one is the latest score is 5—3 to djokovic in the fourth. so he is a break up and closing in on taking it to a fifth set. meanwhile in an earlier match, the 17 year old henry searle became the first briton to win the wimbledon boys singles title since 1962, beating yaroslav . de—man 6464 beating yaroslav. de—man 6464 torfaen online dab and tunein radio. this is gb news. but now it's time for glory meets . it's time for glory meets. lord david frost. >> really excited about this interview. i think you're a very interesting character. let's

start with your start in life . start with your start in life. you got a free place at a private school in nottingham , so private school in nottingham, so you were clearly smart . what did you were clearly smart. what did your mum and dad do .7 your mum and dad do.7 >> so your mum and dad do? >> so i was brought up in derby and yeah, went to school in nottingham. my parents both worked at rolls—royce in derby. they their sort of bit part they did their sort of bit part as designers of aero engines as draughtsmen. so that's what they did. and yeah , rolls—royce has did. and yeah, rolls—royce has been part of my life, i suppose, even been part of my life, i suppose, ever, ever since then. >> and you get to oxford university at any point at either at school or at oxford imposter syndrome . did you ever imposter syndrome. did you ever experience imposter syndrome ? experience imposter syndrome? >> oh, gosh, no , i don't think >> oh, gosh, no, i don't think so. i mean, everybody , he so. i mean, everybody, he wonders. i think if they're honest, wonders if they're up to the next challenge that that meets them . i think that's meets them. i think that's that's just human nature. but i'd always felt that i would go to oxford and was delighted to get there and pleased about it.

yeah. >> so and did you get involved in student politics at oxford? >> i did a bit. i've always been interested in politics actually, ever since kind of primary school, really. and did you always want to be politician always want to be a politician from a very young age? from a from a very young age? i l, from a from a very young age? i i, i always thought i might go into politics. i thought it wasn't like, what i was determined to do, but i was always interested it. and always interested in it. and certainly i went to certainly when i went to university, got university, i was really i got involved. involved in the involved. i was involved in the labour party then. in fact , when labour party then. in fact, when i was at university, you were a member of labour party member of the labour party afterwards member the afterwards i was a member of the you were a member of the labour party in your teenage years and early 20s. yeah. >> really? >> really? >> goodness. obviously i then >> my goodness. obviously i then went into the civil service, so proper politics had to stop you. >> of course. so who would have been the leader? who what inspired you to join the labour party were when you party when you were when you were your teens at university? >> so i thought that i was wrong in it , >> so i thought that i was wrong in it, i think. but i thought at the time that the labour party was the party that stood up for

all ornery voters, people who wanted their lives to be better , wanted things to change, wanted to kind of get on in life and make themselves their families better off, have , you families better off, have, you know, be able to travel, be able to do all the things that makes a good life. and i thought the labour party was the party that stood up people like that. stood up for people like that. and have changed my mind about and i have changed my mind about that. i'm not sure it was that. and i'm not sure it was even in the 80s and early even true in the 80s and early 90s when i was involved . but i 90s when i was involved. but i certainly think it's not true now . how. >> now. >> we were on the left of the labour party, central list or were these things that you you just thought you were you were labouring notionally at some point labouring notionally at some poiiyeah. i not, not left, not >> yeah. i not, not left, not right. just it was a bit of a family thing as well. you know, my parents were both labour party voters at the time and that was that was part of how i'd been brought up, i suppose, for those, those sort of values i guess, was what was important

to me. and i think they still are. >> so when did you decide that actually you weren't labour and you were a concern ? you were a concern? >> you were a concern? >> lviv i think it was a gradual realisation, to be honest. partly being in the civil service, becoming quite eurosceptic about what i saw in brussels in the 90s. that was a big part of it. but i think more importantly i began to realise and i believe very strongly now that the labour party is, is not the party of ordinary voters, it's the party of the sort of pubuc it's the party of the sort of public sector classes, the people who like to decide how the country is run and like telling other people what to do. and those were the classes that were defeated in the 2016 referendum. that was a vote for change and doing things differently. and i think that's what the conservative party now stands for . something very stands for. something very interesting has happened in politics in the last five years, which is that for the first time evenl which is that for the first time ever, i think since the foundation of the labour party,

the richer you are, the more likely you are to vote labour. and that says a lot. conservative parties got to accept that , deal with it and accept that, deal with it and become fully the party of change and doing things differently for ordinary voters. and that's what i think is so important. >> interesting because i think if you ask most but i don't disagree with your analysis, but i think if you ask most labour mps why they went into politics, why they joined the labour party, they would say to represent working class people , represent working class people, is that why you're in politics? is that why you're in politics? is it to represent working class people ? people? >> i think i to the extent i'm in politics, i'm in it because i want to do what i can to make people's lives better for. and i think that means , you know, think that means, you know, allowing people more freedom, doing what we can to make them better off, widening the honzons better off, widening the horizons of what you can do with your life, feeling part of a community. those to me are the things that people didn't feel

and haven't felt. they've been getting in recent years. >> but you've been in power for stand for. >> well, of course that is that is true. i think the referendum was a break point. things changed at the referendum . we changed at the referendum. we now need to deliver on that vote for change for ordinary voters around the country. and if you look at who voted for us in 2019, that that is very different. that coalition is the future of the conservative party . we've got to accept that. so you went into the civil service, you went into the civil service, you had some big jobs. >> you had some big political jobs. >> you had some big political jobs . you're now in the house of jobs. you're now in the house of lords , you're in the cabinet lords, you're in the cabinet from , um, the lords and under from, um, the lords and under bofis from, um, the lords and under boris johnson , you've never , boris johnson, you've never, though taken elected office. yes. is that about to change? are you? we're going to see you on the green benches. >> well, that's in the hands of the electorate, but obviously ultimately and in the hands ultimately and also in the hands of the servative party to select me for a seat. so i am on the

candidates list now, as i think is known and i haven't applied for any seats yet, but i might in the year to come. so we'll, we'll see. and i think that although the house of lords is great in its own way, real politics s happens in the commons, that's where the crucible of the national life is. and i think if you want to be in politics, that's where you've got to be really . you've got to be really. >> i'll let you into a secret. so i was saying to one of my friends in the labour party who is a an mp and this was a couple of months ago actually, i was like, what if , if lots of big like, what if, if lots of big ifs, if the tories lose power, who do you think they'll go for? and she said, i reckon it will be david frost. >> it's nice of them . nice of >> it's nice of them. nice of people to say that. i don't think it's likely to happen. the reason as i say, the reason i want to go into the commons is that's where politics is. that's where you you need to be if you want to influence things. and that's just the our that's just that's the way our system works. and quite right

too. people who are not too. i think people who are not elected don't have the same standing and the same rights to comment. so and i think that's perfectly reasonable. let's talk briefly about your time in the civil service. >> we hear suggestions that there is a blob , that there is there is a blob, that there is some sort of institution block to people who are trying to pursue an agenda like yours pro tax cuts , um, pro toughening , tax cuts, um, pro toughening, migration, pro growth . did you migration, pro growth. did you see any evidence of resistance in the civil service of what you wanted to do? >> well , i do wanted to do? >> well, i do think the civil service has changed. when i first joined the foreign office in the late 80s, it was very much there was a very strong espnt much there was a very strong esprit de corps. it was a bit like joining the military. i think obviously not entirely, but it was a bit like , you know, but it was a bit like, you know, you, you you stayed , you got the you, you you stayed, you got the job done. you did what your political masters wanted. you got on with it. and that has

gradually changed over the years . so i think the civil service has come to think of itself as a sort of independent guardian of the constitution , if you like. the constitution, if you like. in some ways, you know , of kind in some ways, you know, of kind of neutral ways of doing things. and i think that's a bit at the root of the conflicts that we've had over over brexit a bit. so it's not that there's a blob opposing it. i think it's just that the civil service large largely, not entirely obviously has come to think of itself as representing the middle ground in the country and they push back a bit against people who want things to change. >> so what's wrong with the middle ground in the country ? middle ground in the country? >> well, i think people vote the 2016 referendum was a vote for things to be different and that showed that the middle ground was not where a lot of politicians thought were the middle ground was. and we have not delivered quite on the change that people wanted , i change that people wanted, i think, in the way that the

country is run. so you know, changing things, doing things differently, shaking up old ways that that the civil service is always going to feel a bit uncomfortable with that. but it's the job of ministers collectively to push things through and determined and be through and be determined and be clear they want. and clear about what they want. and that's to that's that's what needs to happen. >> you're often referred to as sort the darling of the sort of the darling of the conservative members of the right of the party. is that a label that you accept and why do you think you are referred to in that way? how are you the darling of conservative members? >> don't i don't about >> i don't i don't know about that. i'm sure there are quite a lot conservative members who lot of conservative members who have feelings about me. have mixed feelings about me. but extent that i do but to the extent that i do strike a chord in what i say , i strike a chord in what i say, i think it's about it's about i think it's about it's about i think i speak for what of a lot of conservative members actually think , you know, they do want think, you know, they do want the country to be different. they do want it to be more free market. they do want taxes to be lower. they want us to stand up

for certain things and maybe they're not hearing that as much as they would like from many of the leading conservative politicians at the moment. and i, i guess i speak to that i'm not the only one, but i certainly do, i think. >> do you think they care about culture war issues ? culture war issues? >> i do. i think the conservative party in the country feels very strongly about it. it feels very strongly about it. it feels very strongly about a number of things, actually. but it definitely feels strongly that it doesn't like . i think feels strongly that it doesn't like. i think the idea feels strongly that it doesn't like . i think the idea that like. i think the idea that we've developed this sort of almost state ideology around diversity and to be in certain jobs or do certain things or hold certain positions, you've kind of got paid lip service to this ideology and i think it's not that every member of the conservative party is hostile to that. it'sjust conservative party is hostile to that. it's just that they think, why should you have to sign up for it? there should be freedom. you should be able to say what you think we should be able to

debate these things. debate shouldn't off and shouldn't be closed off and that's how it feels at the that's a bit how it feels at the moment. i. i believe in free moment. and i. i believe in free begum free speech saying what you think. that's really important . important. >> and you've said that those sorts values not sorts of values are not necessarily shouted loudly enough by some of the conservative, some of the figures in the conservative leadership. who are your star players on the conservative right ? right? >> gosh, i think people like suella braverman are kemi badenoch are very , very strong badenoch are very, very strong cabinet ministers. you know , cabinet ministers. you know, sets out a very clear view of the way forward in various various areas. but i think many cabinet ministers are doing good things , i think. but what things, i think. but what worries me is that there's a sense of drift and a sense that the country's got a lot of problems and they're a bit too big to be tackled. and so we're just going to carry along in a kind of steady as she goes way .

kind of steady as she goes way. and i think the genie alias of the conservative party historically has been not to give in to that , but to be able give in to that, but to be able to face up to the challenges the country has and to grip them and deal with them. and we're to going have to do that again, because this country has got a lot of problems and we've got to deal with them . deal with them. >> do you have a best friend in . politics is there such a can you have friends in politics like real ones? >> i, i hesitate because because i came into politics in this rather unusual way . i i came into politics in this rather unusual way. i didn't kind of bond with other mps as you do if you're you're elected . and i was suddenly project voted into it and i guess i consider i still do consider bofis consider i still do consider boris a friend actually we think in very similar ways about things and i think he's a very decent guy who's been much maligned and but i so , but

maligned and but i so, but obviously i have friends , but i obviously i have friends, but i don't i haven't sort of bonded with anybody in the way that i think others do. >> we look forward to seeing your progress. i mean , it sounds your progress. i mean, it sounds like it's going to be a future on the green benches and you're going to have a big inaya influential role in the future of your party. when you are there, you're looking forward to that. >> well, if it happens, i'll be looking forward to it. if it doesn't happen, and as i say, it's in the hand of the electorate, that's that's what's that's coming . i still that's what's coming. i still hope to contribute to the debate . freedom, growth, standing up for the country. that's what people want to hear and that's what i will carry on saying. >> well, you could have knocked me down with a feather when you said you used to be a member of the labour party. you very the labour party. thank you very much i really enjoyed the labour party. thank you very muchthank i really enjoyed the labour party. thank you very muchthank you,aally enjoyed the labour party. thank you very muchthank you, lord enjoyed the labour party. thank you very muchthank you, lord frost'ed that. thank you, lord frost coming up, conservative mp katherine fletcher. >> went home and >> and then i went home and announced my parents i was announced to my parents i was going to try and be a tory mp and my nearly had and then my dad nearly had a heart attack because it

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radio. >> catherine fletcher, conservative mp, elected in 2019. you have a pretty unique story about how you got into politics, how you became an mp. so in fact put it in your own words . words. >> well, hi gloria. thanks for having us so basically, i think quite a lot of people i don't come from any variety of political backgrounds like at all. you know, it was always drilled into me how important it is vote, you know, know, is to vote, you know, you know, parents went down. you know, it was vital you vote even if was vital that you vote even if you go and spoil your ballot paper as a kid. if you don't know what you're doing, you must go vote. but outside of go and vote. but outside of that, there no tribalism in that, there was no tribalism in the all. fact, to be the house at all. in fact, to be fair to them, they actually find out how parents voted till out how my parents voted till after i'd kind of really got

active politics. active in politics. but if you're kind of you're sat on a sofa kind of shouting at it, there has to become a point where you go sod it, me see if i've got it, let me see if i've got something to contribute. and that's effectively did . i that's effectively what i did. i was living up north, but working down coming back and down south and coming back and forth and the gap doing that from like the late, late, late 1997, finished uni and coming 1997, i finished uni and coming through to like the early noughfies through to like the early noughties , the gap was just noughties, the gap was just widening and widening and widening. know, budli was widening. you know, budli was out concrete and out of the concrete and i thought, i've had enough of this . got the manifestos . so i got all the manifestos and i picked the i and i picked the one that i disagreed with the least . and disagreed with the least. and anybody , you know, this anybody anybody, you know, this anybody that tells you in our system that tells you in our system that everybody believes every word of every manifesto, it's for the birds. you don't. but you go right. what's the general direction of travel and then i went home and announced to my parents that i was going to try and be a tory mp and then my dad nearly had a heart attack because it transpires he's he's an an old labour man. but an old an old labour man. but but you know, it's been an interesting journey and i think

dad's just about forgiveness . dad's just about forgiveness. >> have you always voted conservative? >> lviv no, i don't think so . >> lviv no, i don't think so. i've definitely gone and spoilt my ballot paper before now because i think it's important that you register that as a protest . you know, in my right protest. you know, in my right on youth days, i thought that was a very clever thing to do. >> were you a right on youth? were you right on? >> i'm a nerd. i no, i'm i'm >> no, i'm a nerd. i no, i'm i'm from south manchester, so i went to i went to nottingham, i went to i went to nottingham, i went to and because it felt exotically far away from manchester when i was 18. but there i met a lot of people from very different backgrounds at posh, i would call them and there's good few of them. i'm there's a good few of them. i'm still with one of my still in touch with one of my mates who whose nickname is cliff. he went, why it that cliff. he went, why is it that every from every single person from manchester thinks it's the centre universe ? i was centre of the universe? i was like, it is, it is. you know . like, it is, it is. you know. and so there's been a little bit of that. but no, i've always been one that kind of been the one that was kind of taking a fossil hammer around eqypt taking a fossil hammer around egypt and, you know, kind of wanging how interesting wanging on about how interesting

the carbon cycle is. if you really look at relation to really look at it in relation to the pennines . okay, yeah , the pennines. okay, yeah, there's a reason why i'm single . it must be hard to date in politics. oh, it's impossible. it's totally impossible . you it's totally impossible. you know this, you know the scrutiny that you're under. it's interesting actually, in south ribble is my constituency , and ribble is my constituency, and i've had to rename it because all the southerners kind of get this wide eyed, glassy panic because it because they don't know where it is. so i've renamed it, you know, the bit under preston and exactly. when i'm home and i exactly. and when i'm home and i remember and seeing a load remember going and seeing a load of school there of the school teachers and there was lass who, you know was this one lass who, you know quite rightly got about quite rightly got into me about government education policy. i don't was necessarily don't think she was necessarily a voter, but had a conservative voter, but we had a conservative voter, but we had a chat. agreed that standards a chat. we agreed that standards was important, got was really important, got into it a more, the next time it a bit more, and the next time i saw it, she said, god, i've just realised something. said you out the you can never go out in the constituency, can you? and i said, i said, i can have a said, no. i said, i can have a pint, but alcohol and politics and what people think of you, you know, obviously i must be like dead posh, wear pearls ,

like dead posh, wear pearls, ride horses, beat the servants of a nightly basis. you know, none of it's true. but plus none of it's true. but that plus alcohol is toxic. and she'd come across it because she'd ended up having to leave a leave a local kind of social club because the parents of some of the children that she taught were there. and i said, yeah, but times that by like 100,000 people. and she's like, yeah, no, i've got there. so no, no. yeah. >> actually it's a good point. i found getting my friends found myself getting my friends round to my house a lot more for to socialise because you can't, you just can't go out, you know, because somebody's, somebody has got will just try and land one on you, you know. it was more i thought, god, i can't really have too drinks and i quite have too many drinks and i quite like too drinks, like having too many drinks, especially subject. like having too many drinks, espso ally subject. like having too many drinks, espso i ly subject. like having too many drinks, espso i drinkiject. like having too many drinks, espso i drink lager , but i don't >> so i drink lager, but i don't particularly like wine or cocktails or anything. i like the odd gin and tonic, but i dnnk the odd gin and tonic, but i drink lager. but in part because it's not physically possible to dnnk it's not physically possible to drink that gets you drink the volume that gets you in strategy in a pickle. it's a strategy adopted university and i've adopted at university and i've never come off it. maybe i was a proto ladette.

>> well , you proto ladette. >> well, you did serve as a minister for women. yes oh, did you like that job? >> well, it was. it was quite brief. >> yeah, it was . i'm not going >> yeah, it was. i'm not going to lie. it was when your party was. so i'm not going to lay claim to kind of oceans of ministerial expertise, but actually, within it, i think there's something really important , there's something really important, which is we women's rights have really been fought for , you know, like you go for, you know, like you go around and you talk to young people and you go just say, you know, right up until not that long ago, like when my grandma was alive, women weren't allowed in place. in this place. >> you couldn't have job. in this place. >> �*couldn'tin't have job. in this place. >> �*couldn't vote.ave job. in this place. >> �*couldn't vote. you job. in this place. >> �*couldn't vote. you know b. in this place. >> �*couldn't vote. you know ,. in this place. >> �*couldn't vote. you know , and you couldn't vote. you know, and you tell them about i don't know. you've been in the prime minister study in the house of commons. >> well, i haven't because i was a labour mp. >> we used to have those in the olden days. no, i feel like a complete for kind of going. >> well, of course, you know, i'm very important. not i'm very important. i'm not doing right. you the doing that right. you go in the prime minister's the prime minister's study in the house of commons and it's like

it's a funny shape and there's this like a cut out in this wall with like a cut out in it, you like the like the it, you know, like the like the secret toilets in the in the in the that pub in edinburgh, the in that pub in edinburgh, you know, and you go through the bookcase anyway, you go through this secret door and this kind of secret door and there's this very 1980s kind of little handbasin little loo and handbasin thing, and installed for and it was installed for margaret because margaret thatcher because otherwise been otherwise she would have been having it across the having to leg it across the whole of the house because there's women's loos. it's there's no women's loos. it's almost that figures almost like that hidden figures thing. where the thing. you know, where the woman's the car woman's running across the car park for a win, run back park to go for a win, run back again and so actually i do think that these rights that's within again and so actually i do think thatlifetimes|hts that's within again and so actually i do think thatlifetimes|hts tthat. within again and so actually i do think thatlifetimes|hts tthat she'sn our lifetimes that that she's done that think reminding done that and i think reminding people of it but also saying that job's not quite that that job's not quite finished yet. i think it's important it doesn't necessarily. you know, my pal and namesake, nick fletcher, who's the don valley mp, he gets in, he was getting into me saying we should have a minister for men as well. that's what to fletcher's you do men and they do women and i think there is something the fact that something about the fact that you nobody gets anywhere you don't nobody gets anywhere by down you know by bashing one down you know there's historic wrongs to

there's some historic wrongs to right there are some things right but there are some things in of men that really in terms of men that really do need them. you know , need a focus on them. you know, mental health, suicide and, you know, male role models. so personally, i'd have both or have it explicit within have a men's health explicit somewhere within a ministerial portfolio . within a ministerial portfolio. but interesting. but that's maybe because of just, you know, nick wants to movement. it's the ben fletcher's the four fs campaign manager. yeah, yeah. >> but no, you raise a good point. think i might. could be on the cards. no i do. >> it's well above my pay grade. >> it's well above my pay grade. >> catherine fletcher >> more from catherine fletcher after break. after the break. >> a stand in the >> i want a stand in the corridors of power with my arms folded saying, are you serious .

listening to gb news radio. >> you made the point that your grandparents couldn't have been

in the house of commons. >> well, for lots of reasons, including the fact that they were my grandma was in a back to back salford slum. you know, it's not just gender that's transformed. it's kind of, you know, opportunities, you know , know, opportunities, you know, stay educated from within. sure. you know, the system , um, has you know, the system, um, has got me allowed me to get to this point. i have worked hard for it as well. but that is a long, long, long change. we like for somebody like my accent to walk in, i think i think the conservative 2019 intake, i think it's the first generation, first intake that's taken a pay rise to come in and that you know and i remember when we first pitched up there was you could see there was a few people on all sides . going hello, on all sides. going hello, what's this lot up to? and but i would argue very strongly we're making it better. part of the reason i wanted to get into politics was i mates. my mates

say, why are you doing it? i said, i want a stand in the corridors of power with my arms folded saying, are you serious ? folded saying, are you serious? and i think being able to do that, that's my granulation of bringing different life experience . ipsis you know, i'm experience. ipsis you know, i'm a i've got science degree. i was running my own business. i'm stay educated. and from that bit in, you know, game of thrones where it's the other side of the wall, you know, where there's snow and wolves, otherwise known as the north of england. you know, these important know, these are important perspectives have perspectives that we don't have enough here. i'm not enough of down here. i'm not saying i'm woman on my own enough of down here. i'm not sayirthat, woman on my own enough of down here. i'm not sayirthat, but/oman on my own enough of down here. i'm not sayirthat, but itnan on my own enough of down here. i'm not sayirthat, but it is n on my own enough of down here. i'm not sayirthat, but it is my1 my own enough of down here. i'm not sayirthat, but it is my missionn with that, but it is my mission and you said there are you wanted to stand there sometimes and say, you sarah, are you serious? >> are serious? how often or >> are you serious? how often or has there an occasion where has there been an occasion where something's in something's happened in parliament where you felt the need to. >> yeah, quite a bit. but >> yeah, do it quite a bit. but i'm not going tell you i'm i'm not going to tell you i'm going back one of the going back to being one of the women in parliament. >> have you . and been a >> have you. and been a scientist to and been in business, have you encountered

sexism along that journey , sexism along that journey, including where you are now? um when i first started in local politics, yes. >> i think i think there's quite a lot of it. i think big shout out to anyone that's female councillor i think it's more prevalent at that level. you know, you know i'm still encountering misogyny, but from that tier below here, genuinely haven't had a bar of it in fact, to the point i've felt nothing but welcomed and supported, you know, and actually , you know, know, and actually, you know, and supported not in a oh here let me boost you up, as in i am going to turn round to you and give you the same mouthful i would give a lad because i view you as completely equal, you know, you know. does that make sense? yeah. some of the batus is quite good value. probably not principle for this audience. so you want to do you want more? >> you want more northerners in you want more state education. hated people in parliament. you want more women in. you want

more people. enough. >> right . how how do we do it >> no right. how how do we do it 7 >> no right. how how do we do it ? well, first of all, people like me coming out of their natural environments , which is natural environments, which is kind of fields and fossil hammers to look at you in a lovely frock. and these lights and that crew and sit and that camera crew and sit here and go, i've done it . and that camera crew and sit here and go, i've done it. i was i didn't join a political party till it was either 2012 or 2013. i can't remember, you know, and, and then by putting my head down, doing a load of hard work saying this is what i have to offer , i think a lot of a lot of offer, i think a lot of a lot of people, not just women, but also people, not just women, but also people from maybe non—conventional backgrounds, they're just self—edit themselves out of it because they think they're not to going get anywhere. and if i'm absolutely didn't absolutely honest, i didn't think going to get think i was going to get anywhere, just got a bit anywhere, but i just got a bit minded about it. as in, well, i'm going to try and fail well. and i remember my mates sitting me down and saying, well, it's generational this really generational, this really catherine, know, catherine, isn't it? you know, you're going fail, but then you're going to fail, but then you'll pass how you you'll be able to pass how you failed on to the next

generation. but you didn't. >> you succeeded. >> you succeeded. >> but. but, but if i can do it, listen to me. you know, look at me. you know, if i can do it, you can do it. ladies and gentlemen, crack on and give us drop us email, and i'll help drop us an email, and i'll help you and i think that's the other thing that doesn't necessarily come and i know it's come across. and i know it's true for different is true for different parties is there networks saying, there are big networks saying, come will you, we'll come this will help you, we'll train you . i mean, some of the train you. i mean, some of the stuff did when i first pitched stuff i did when i first pitched up, oh, god, it was up, you know, oh, god, it was awful. i genuinely just, you awful. i was genuinely just, you know , i was making a right know, i was making a right horlicks it. but you get horlicks of it. but you get people come , my dear, just people that come, my dear, just quite weird because there is a game to it, but it's not so obnoxious that you can't learn it. you know , don't say that. be it. you know, don't say that. be nice to that person an you know, you know it's all right . you know it's all right. >> it's all right if i can't believe it. but you're very engaging to listen to. so we're nearly out of time. we have we have another thing in common. go on. we both vape . oh, but

on. we both vape. oh, but everyone's having a go at us for doing it. i feel like it's great that we managed to stop smoking cigarettes. i wish people would give us less of a hard time for vaping. what do you reckon? >> so . so i there was the >> so. so i there was the i shall edit the names, but as you know, there are a little lady members rooms in the house of commons. those are like toilets. yeah. basically like toilets with and, and you know the legend margaret beckett legend that is margaret beckett was there with two labour mps was in there with two labour mps and conservative mps i and two conservative mps. and i had kind of laughed my, my, had to kind of laughed my, my, you could her going. i was you could see her going. i was like, sign of a well spent youth, know. and it wasn't youth, you know. and it wasn't actually because smoking is a really stupid thing to do and i wish i hadn't started. >> i totally agreed. >> i totally agreed. >> i totally agreed. >> i tried every which way to >> i totally agreed. >> i up. d every which way to >> i totally agreed. >> i up. absolutely. ch way to >> i totally agreed. >> i up. absolutely. and ay to >> i totally agreed. >> i up. absolutely. and the) give up. absolutely. and the only way i managed to give up was on a vape. now now, at the risk sounding like don risk of sounding like don corleone, they're corleone, when they're doing that know, that big sit down. you know, i don't want it sold to kids and i don't want it sold to kids and i don't it sold at the school don't want it sold at the school gate. but but i think it's perfectly possible to regulate

it you throw the it such that you don't throw the baby with the bath water on baby out with the bath water on harms. so i actually looked into this because a my mates this because a lot of my mates are still really that are still really worried that i'm vaping. so it's a i'm still vaping. so it's a double blind scientific article. i will be quick, i promise . i will be quick, i promise. >> no, this is quite helpful for me. >> epithelia cells. lung cells in a petri dish blowing cigarette over one of cigarette smoke over one of them, blowing vape over another and over another good and fresh air over another good double blind control. they cut the epithelial cells are like shrivelling up and die in at like the 5000 horrible components that are in the smoke. can't tell the difference between vape and fresh air now is it is it better than fresh air. no. is it 90? am i killing myself 95% more slowly? yeah s and so provided we can educate the kids, i personally think it's an important tool. there but that. but i but there needs to be slightly better regulated. so these disposable ones that are getting sold out the back of hairdressers in south ribble you know god knows what they've got

in them. we can't have that. and so they're right about that. >> um, what, um , what a great >> um, what, um, what a great interview . you honestly, really, interview. you honestly, really, really refreshing. i love your accent . i love your style . and accent. i love your style. and i've really enjoyed our chat. >> thank you. thanks for having us. i'll come back and we can do palaeontology next. >> thank you. catherine fletcher i >> -- >> cheers . >> cheers. >> cheers. >> coming up, labour's dan norris. >> the life expectancy of women is one of the second lowest in the whole country. in part of my area .

>> dan norris, mayor of the west of england. you're a labour metro mayor. you're a labour mp before that. but first of all, what's the biggest priority for you as the mayor of west of

england? >> it's transport without question. transport is a key to giving people opportunity. if you can't get to where you need to be, whether it's a job or your dentist or whatever, you're stuffed. so that's the key thing. and it's a huge challenge because transport isn't where it needs be at the moment. it's needs to be at the moment. it's frankly in a poor state. there's been a big investment, but the pandemic has undermined a lot of that. and so it's about rebuilding that confidence and trust that people know that trust so that people know that if they for a bus, it's if they wait for a bus, it's going to turn up they can going to turn up and they can plan life on it. plan their life on it. >> yeah, absolutely. so important outside london, sometimes in sometimes i think people in london lucky they are. >> very lucky. so you were a labour mp between in 1997 to 2010. >> he spent 13 years as a labour mp. before that you had a real job. you were a social worker, you first job was working in a children home. that was back in the 1980s and in recent years , the 1980s and in recent years, as there have been increasing reports and concerns about the

abuse of children in our children's homes, did you witness any issues when you were working in a children's home? yeah, absolutely. >> and i had to whistle blow along with some other young people who were working there too, because because we saw things that you just should never see. it was people grabbing young people by their private parts, really hitting them. various other things. yeah really, really bad stuff. so the reports we get today about those things, it's always happened. and although we get concerned because we hear about it now, it was happening in the past when it secret. so people it was more secret. so people shouldn't concerned shouldn't be concerned that they're more it they're hearing more about it because that's good thing . because that's a good thing. when i was a social worker in child protection, i was always campaigning to talk about these issues because there was a time it's to now, but it's hard to believe now, but there time when you there was a time when you couldn't these things couldn't talk about these things because think you because people would think you were you were seeing were odd or you were seeing things were completely things that were completely impossible. know these impossible. now we know these things truth is

things happen. now the truth is there start there you can start finding solutions a better time. solutions so it's a better time. even it feels in some even though it feels in some ways that isn't. ways that it isn't. >> for somebody has never >> for somebody who has never worked home, which >> for somebody who has never w(most home, which >> for somebody who has never w(most people, home, which >> for somebody who has never w(most people, it home, which >> for somebody who has never w(most people, it just)me, which >> for somebody who has never w(most people, it just feelswhich >> for somebody who has never w(most people, it just feels so ch is most people, it just feels so extraordinary that somebody would want work in a would want to work in a children's to home do to harm them and to hurt them . i mean, a them and to hurt them. i mean, a why would anyone do that? and b, what sort of checks went on? go on. >> well, checks are much tougher now. and i'm pleased to say that's partly because as a politician, as an mp and part of the labour government, as it was, i was able to get some changes to the law to make those checks very robust and that was really good. and that really does help. but look, there are bad people and it's hard for normal people, regular people, to understand what the motivation could be. but there there and my view is, well, we can spend time if we like, working out why they are so bad. but what we need to do more immediately is protect young people and children . and that's people and children. and that's what the law is much better at

doing but it's still always doing now. but it's still always there . and it's like you have to there. and it's like you have to have antibodies in society. this will always a challenge, i'm will always be a challenge, i'm afraid. in the future but afraid. in the future too. but what we've to do is keep up what we've got to do is keep up to keep up speed to pace, keep up to speed with things the internet and things like the internet and other technologies, other modern technologies, artificial intelligence dolls that are very lifelike and realistic. all the things that are going to happen. we should try get ahead of so we can try and get ahead of so we can keep children safer and children's has been children's safety has been a theme which has run throughout your time as a politician . your time as a politician. >> you campaigned for a new law when you were an mp to allow parents to know how many sex offenders lived in their neighbourhoods. some people would say, oh my goodness, that's a that's a recipe for chaos. personally, i think that's right. but you know, there would be resistance to it . tell me why you think it's right . right. >> i think most people are sensible. i think you have to be honest about these things, because the truth is that

communities get to know when there's someone who's not safe in their community. so sooner rather than later . so why not rather than later. so why not headit rather than later. so why not head it off by being absolutely candid and straight, give people a right. the police have discretion about what information they can disclose in these situations, but for understandable reasons, the police are often reluctant to say things because they know that there may be vigilante, active 80. so it's about getting that balance. but it's all part of modern society . being that balance. but it's all part of modern society. being able to talk about difficult subjects . talk about difficult subjects. yes, because i think if you're honest and straight about the challenges, then you create a safe environment for young people and children. and that's surely the most important thing. >> police >> do you wish that the police were less anxious? i suppose , were less anxious? i suppose, about releasing that data ? do about releasing that data? do you wish there were more willing to let parents know? >> i do. but look , there's a >> i do. but look, there's a confidence issue in the police now for women and various other groups in our society. so the police have a big, big job to do to rebuild confidence . and i to rebuild confidence. and i think that when they do that ,

think that when they do that, then we'll get more agreement to give out this kind of information because they're on the defensive. i think now they're working hard, rightly, in my view, and i wish them well in my view, and i wish them well in re—establishing trust . but in re—establishing trust. but part of that trust building will be being able to talk about this kind of sensitive information in a and intelligent way. that a good and intelligent way. that means are safer. means children are safer. >> interesting to >> really interesting to get your because you've your reflections because you've worked in that area. another passion of yours is cruel sports being against cruel sports. you're the chair of the league against cruel sports. the labour government banned fox hunting. i mean, we're done, aren't we? we don't have cruel sports. >> i think we were naive. i think we didn't anticipate some of the loopholes that were there . we trusted the hunting fraternity to adhere to the law and the spirit of the law. and i think it's quite clear looking back, that they never intended to do that. and we've seen some very graphic and powerful

imagery lately where foxes have been alive and dug out been buried alive and dug out and various things show and various other things show showing that the hunting fraternity are clearly carrying on hunting in the same old way. but they're hiding it and concealing it. and it's interesting. i was a league against cruel sports meeting last week where the most senior police officer for the whole of england that enforces the hunting rules is basically saying that the hunting rules are useless. it needs to be revisited . and i agree revisited. and i agree completely about that. what do you want to happen? well, we need to look at the loopholes. what to do is there's what we need to do is there's all different ways that the hunters can pretend that they're all different ways that the hunteisomethingend that they're all different ways that the hunteisomething else,iat they're all different ways that the hunteisomething else, thatiey're doing something else, that they're and there's they're clearly not. and there's very evidence . and there's very clear evidence. and there's also lots of hunts who've been caught out. and even they're admitting that they've broken the need to revisit the law. so we need to revisit it and urgently, in view , it and urgently, in my view, it's of a civilised it's a mark of a civilised society, animals society, how we treat animals and children as it happens. and we need to get on with this because i just think that in the future when people at future when people look back at our times, they're going to say,

you know, were some you know, there were some fantastic things happened in the 21st century, but weren't they cruel to animals ? cruel to animals? >> let's talk about the one of the political buzzwords is levelling up now when we talk about levelling up, when the politicians talk about levelling up in our minds, we conjure up images of the north and the midlands. rightly so. does that annoy you being an elected representative of the west of england? >> just a tad, yeah, just a tad. everyone thinks it's geographic or that it means about going up north because the south—east and london is so prosperous compared to parts of northern england. but the reality is that that happens elsewhere in the uk. now, as it happens , the west of now, as it happens, the west of england is quite a prosperous area when you look at averages. but i also immense but i also have immense deprivation. for example, the deprivation. so for example, the life expectancy of women is one of the second lowest in the whole country. in part of my area where there are young people , men working young, people, men working young, working class men, i should say,

who university entrance is incredibly low , for example. and incredibly low, for example. and yet they are right around them is tremendous opportunity. so what we need to do is drill down to those very specific details and get so—called levelling up, as i call it, because i don't believe it is levelling up yet . believe it is levelling up yet. get it sorted, get it focussed. we've got technology, so we should be to drill down should be able to drill down wherever it is in the uk, north, south—east or west. we should be able to to it. able to get to it. >> thought of one final >> i just thought of one final question. you said the west of england is fairly prosperous now. won the mayoralty from now. you won the mayoralty from a conservative mayor is labour now the party of prosperous people and not of the working class? >> the labour party has to be the party of everybody because wealth creation is essential to pay wealth creation is essential to pay for the compassionate society we want to see. so it isn't pitting one group of society against another. it's about bringing everybody together. and also think that together. and also i think that you measure things in you can measure things in monetary terms or wealth terms , monetary terms or wealth terms, but a person you but there's rarely a person you can look at, however prosperous they seem, doesn't have

they may seem, who doesn't have some of concern or gone some issue of concern or gone through pretty tough time through some pretty tough time in you know, it's in their life. you know, it's not that define people. not that easy to define people. i think we're all i think. i think we're all a mixture. i think we all have some qualities. have mixture. i think we all have some reallyqualities. have mixture. i think we all have some really tough es. have mixture. i think we all have some really tough experiences we've through. so i think we've gone through. so i think we've gone through. so i think we have intelligent and we have to have intelligent and reasonable to these reasonable approach to these things creation is things and wealth creation is not bad thing. it's an not a bad thing. it's an important thing. as as that important thing. as long as that is fairly and is used fairly and compassionately to bring about a better society. >> west of england, mayor labour's norris, thank you labour's dan norris, thank you very much. thanks for watching. see you next sunday at . see you next sunday at. 6:00 >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. i hope you were able to enjoy your weekend. it has been a rather blustery one for many of us, but as we come to

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