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news it's 9:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. >> this is mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion , after signing in my big opinion, after signing a stunning new trade deal worth £12 trillion, brexit, britain is on the march and proving all the usual suspects wrong . this deal
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usual suspects wrong. this deal is good for news britain and find out why shortly my mark meets guest is former trade and defence secretary dr. liam fox. he's the guy that got the ball rolling on that trade deal. and one of the founding fathers of brexit. he joins us live in the studio. before the end of the houn studio. before the end of the hour. his first tv interview in a long form in a long, long time . it will be unmissable . it . it will be unmissable. it might take at ten as the bbc sex scandal rumbles on, huw edwards is not the victim here. let me tell you, this story is not going anywhere. not on my watch. i'll be asking some tough questions that remain unanswered . that's . at ten . that's. at ten plus my top pundits, including politics, legend edwina currie. so it is sunday night. let's get the kettle on. let's eke out the last couple of hours of the weekend and have some fun. first
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up, the headlines with karen armstrong . armstrong. >> hi there. let's get you up to date with the headlines from the newsroom . spain's carlos alcaraz newsroom. spain's carlos alcaraz has beaten novak djokovic in a five set classic to win his first wimbledon title . alcaraz first wimbledon title. alcaraz lost the first set six one before winning the next two. djokovic the defending champion, won the fourth set, but he was broken early in the decider and never recovered. the world number one, then ending djokovic's recent dominance in what was the second longest final ever played at the all england club. djokovic had been hoping to equal roger federer's record eight wimbledon victories and margaret court's overall record of 24 grand slam singles titles . europe's bracing for titles. europe's bracing for more severe heat amid predictions of the hottest temperatures ever experienced on the continent. wildfire has continued to burn out of control on the spanish island of la palma in the canaries at least 4000 people have been evacuated
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as a result, with almost 115,000 acres of land affected. british holidaymakers travelling to southern europe are being advised to take precautions , advised to take precautions, with forecasters predicting parts of italy and greece could reach 48.8. that's the record recorded in sicily back in 2021. meanwhile rescue teams in south korea are continuing to retrieve victims who've been trapped in a flooded tunnel. it's unclear how many people remain missing . at many people remain missing. at least 37 has died as a result of the heavy downpours which have caused landslides and floods . caused landslides and floods. more than 8500 people have been ordered to evacuate a part of more than 50 pilot whales have died after a mass stranding on a scottish beach. only 15 were found alive by marine rescuers after the whales washed up at nonh after the whales washed up at north tolsta on the isle of lewis this morning and none were able to be saved. the cause of the stranding is not yet known, but is thought the pod may have
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followed one of the females, which was giving birth . the which was giving birth. the government is hailing the uk, joining an indo—pacific trading bloc. but critics say the economic benefits will be minimal . the economic benefits will be minimal. the business economic benefits will be minimal . the business secretary, minimal. the business secretary, kemi badenoch, says the deal will bring british companies a step closer to a market of 500 million people with fewer barriers , which she hopes will barriers, which she hopes will open up access to £12 trillion worth of global trade . but worth of global trade. but official estimates suggest it will add just £18 billion a year to the economy , year to the economy, representing less than a% of uk gdp . the last ship to set sail gdp. the last ship to set sail from ukraine under the black sea grain agreement has left the port of odesa a day before the deal expires. it allows ukraine to safely export its grain and fertiliser while the war against russia continues and it's eased fears of a global food shortages while stabilising prices. russia says it won't renew the deal until western sanctions on its own exports are lifted. but
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president erdogan of turkey, who brokered the original agreement, says he's confident it will be extended . that's it for the extended. that's it for the moment . tv online dab and tune moment. tv online dab and tune in radio. this is gb news. now it's over to . it's over to. mark >> my thanks to aaron armstrong, who returns in an hour's time . who returns in an hour's time. welcome to a very busy mark dolan tonight night. in my big opinion, after signing a stunning new trade deal worth £12 trillion, brexit britain is on the march and proving all the usual suspects wrong in the big story is home secretary suella braverman write that labour are the political wing of just stop oil my mark meets guest is former trade and defence secretary, dr. liam fox, one of the founding fathers of brexit. he joins us live in the studio before the end of the hour . he joins us live in the studio before the end of the hour. his first tv interview in a long time. it promises to be
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unmissable . time. it promises to be unmissable. in my time. it promises to be unmissable . in my take at ten as unmissable. in my take at ten as the bbc sex scandal rumbles on, huw edwards is not the victim here. let me tell you this story is not going away. not on my watch. i'll be asking some tough questions that remain unanswered . and that's at ten. also, how about this one for a debating point.7 should prince george serve in the military before becoming king? we know, of course, that prince harry served in afghanistan . prince philip in afghanistan. prince philip was a great war hero himself. is it important that our monarchs and members of the royal family participate in the armed forces is also, as london mayor sadiq khan announces, free school meals for every primary school pupil in london? is it the state's to job feed our kids? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, former government minister ann widdecombe . mark minister ann widdecombe. mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front
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pages from 1030. and let me tell you, we're expecting some big headunes you, we're expecting some big headlines , including possible headlines, including possible developments in relation to the bbc sex scandal engulfing the organisation nation. tonight, we'll be getting the opinions of three top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script tonight , live in the studio, sean woodward and edwina currie and simon danczuk. woodward and edwina currie and simon danczuk . tonight i'll be simon danczuk. tonight i'll be asking the pundits as sir keir starmer refuses to say, whether a labour government would spend more public services . more money on public services. does this prove they're serious about power? also, our restaurants that publish calorie counts on their menus killjoys and as brits admit to fast forwarding through tv shows, hopefully not this one. have we lost the art of patience? plus your emails, especially the spicy ones. mark at gbnews.com this show has a strict golden rule . we don't do boring. not on rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it.
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let's get to work and we start with my big opinion . well, with my big opinion. well, whodathunkit the uk has joined the indo pacific trade bloc which is now worth £12 trillion. why does this matter , sir? why does this matter, sir? because it gives us tariff free trade with some of the fastest growing economies in the world, including japan, thailand , new including japan, thailand, new zealand, australia and mexico . zealand, australia and mexico. with britain now a member , it is with britain now a member, it is a larger trading bloc than the whole of the eu. fancy that in practical terms , it means that practical terms, it means that british businesses can sell goods and services more competitively to these new territories , which means higher territories, which means higher gdp , a bump in our national gdp, a bump in our national income . and that means more income. and that means more schools , more hospitals and more schools, more hospitals and more police on our streets . it also police on our streets. it also means that goods coming into this country, like those gorgeous japanese cars, who doesn't love a toyota, a honda
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or a suzuki , will be cheaper to or a suzuki, will be cheaper to the cpt ipp, which i thought was a cough. medicine will taste very unpalatable to the army of remainers who dominate our political media and public institutions as unlike the eu , institutions as unlike the eu, the trans pacific group is only a trading bloc. no the trans pacific group is only a trading bloc . no politics, no a trading bloc. no politics, no promises of ever closer union, no micromanaging of our rules , no micromanaging of our rules, and no stifling anti—competitive laws, no input from foreign judges, no free movement and no vast payment routes for the privilege of membership . privilege of membership. furthermore no stranglehold over foreign trade deals like this one. no threat of the euro or the single european army, and no bill of up to £190 billion for europe's covid overreact when we've joined a market now of 500 million people with economies that are growing not in decline , as is the case in the eurozone
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. and remember, people love to forget this. we do have tariff free trade with the eu as well. remainers would have you think exports have stopped far from it. as the brilliant political commentator robert kimball points out on twitter, the change in uk goods exports to eu countries over the last year obliterates the idea that brexit is a disaster. how about this export . to iceland is a disaster. how about this export. to iceland up 29. exports to norway up 28. germany up exports to norway up 28. germany up 11. ireland up 18.2. and stunningly, france s up almost 25% in a year . stunningly, france s up almost 25% in a year. vive la stunningly, france s up almost 25% in a year . vive la france stunningly, france s up almost 25% in a year. vive la france. joining this new bloc will slash red tape and see our global market share grow. it will boost jobs. it will boost investment . jobs. it will boost investment. and it's a gold rush for our services industry, which is 80% of our economy . now, credit must
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of our economy. now, credit must go to ex—prime minister liz truss . go to ex—prime minister liz truss. during her tenure as international trade secretary, she chris skudder crossed the globe promoting british business, initiating trade discussions and laying the foundations for this new deal. well done , liz. credit to our well done, liz. credit to our formidable trade secretary , kemi formidable trade secretary, kemi badenoch, who got this across the line, a future prime minister watch this space and can we deal with this myth that brexit has reduced our economy by 4% or ever will? and also this idea that the benefit of this idea that the benefit of this new trade deal is 0.08. as the top economist catherine mcbride points out, the 4% figure comes from an office for budget responsibility forecast in 2018, which involves data from 2014 and was based upon the idea that we'd leave the eu on wto terms, which of course didn't happen. so what did happen ? well, uk gdp increased
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happen? well, uk gdp increased from . 2.24 trillion in 20 19 to from. 2.24 trillion in 20 19 to 2.4 9,000,000,000,000 in 2022, an increase of 11, even if you take inflation into account, it is unchanged, not bad. amid the backdrop of lockdowns and a global pandemic and certainly not a 4% hit. listen there are problems with brexit. i won't gaslight. the businesses struggled or indeed giving up the idea of exporting because of horrific red tape and time lags and extra costs. it really is tough for a lot of small businesses. northern ireland has been thrown under the bus and culturally it's sad that british youngsters can't suddenly decide to go to germany or italy and start a new career or make a new life there and vice versa . but life there and vice versa. but brexit was a decision made by a majority of the british people and overall all it's ageing. well with our sovereignty
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restored and britain is on the march , growing its economy grow march, growing its economy grow , growing its opportunities and trading with the rest of the world that that was the brexit promise . world that that was the brexit promise. it's being world that that was the brexit promise . it's being honoured promise. it's being honoured this new deal is a triumph and has vast potential . not. for the has vast potential. not. for the first time, brexit is proving the doubters wrong. brexit is a brexit. bring on global britain your reaction? do you see the other side of brexit? are you suffering as a result of our exit from the bloc? do you think this trade deal is overrated ? this trade deal is overrated? let me know. this show's all about opinions. let me have yours at gbnews.com. let's yours mark at gbnews.com. let's get reaction now from my top pundits. properly excited to welcome former labour mp sean woodward , edwina currie , ex
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woodward, edwina currie, ex conservative government minister and another ex—labour mp and former junior health minister simon danczuk. great to have all three of you with me. let me start, if i can, with you , sean. start, if i can, with you, sean. your reaction to this new deal ? your reaction to this new deal? well, look, i'm the first thing to say is well done. >> we've got a deal. and anything that brings more money to the uk might bring a job. terrific nick. but let's get this in some kind of context. this is with a group of countries, which it would be great to be doing trade with, but the people on our doorstep, the european union, and notwithstanding your excellent portrayal of robert kimball's figures, which was brilliant, except you only gave us one side of his picture because what you talked about was one side of the balance sheet and the other side of the balance sheet has been equally dreadful . so it might be equally dreadful. so it might be the case that exports are up with france 24, 25. but the average imports for the european
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union are actually up 35, which has created outing a catastrophic trade imbalance. so look , i welcome the news that look, i welcome the news that we've got a trade agreement. i mean, we were promised all kinds of trade agreements in 2016. we're waiting for one with we're still waiting for one with the united states as far as i know, with the rest of the know, and with the rest of the european union. the tragedy dodi, is that our trade balance is just 7 or 8 years ago was around 30 billion. the imbalance and now it's grown to three times that amount . so i welcome times that amount. so i welcome the news because it's got to be good. the news because it's got to be good . of course it's good if good. of course it's good if we've done a deal with somebody, but in big picture and the but in the big picture and the big scheme of things is it's not good enough. and that's why we are seeing in the uk a problem with our gdp . it's a complex with our gdp. it's a complex issue. of course it is. but i'm afraid. i think this is a rather distorted picture , although it's distorted picture, although it's one i welcome because it's a deal one i welcome because it's a deal. we're struggling with our gdp more than germany , more than gdp more than germany, more than the eurozone who are currently in recession. we can see in recession. well, we can see that, example , with what's
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that, for example, with what's happening mean happening with inflation. i mean , what's happening , if we look at what's happening in states, in the united states, they've seen dramatic fall again this seen a dramatic fall again this week down from 4.5% now to around 3. and the rest of the european union, we're looking at something around about 6% in the uk , say because of our rather uk, say because of our rather perverse position with brexit, we did the deal, but we got none of the benefits. we're seeing inflation because of the imports, because of the problems . we've got inflation at around 8.5. we've all had problems with covid, we've all had problems as a consequence of energy prices. but the uk has done worst of all. i don't think . all. i don't think. >> simon simon, it's been pointed out by others that partly we're very, very inflationary because of our exposure to the cost of energy in this country as a particular issue for us. do you blame inflation on brexit? >> well , no, i inflation on brexit? >> well, no, i think it's far more complex and where i take issue with what sean is saying issue with what sean is saying is in terms of growth and you mentioned liz truss , she's mentioned liz truss, she's
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recently set up the growth commission just just last week she set up the growth commission , which will focus on why we have a problem with growth in the kingdom . and one of the united kingdom. and one of the united kingdom. and one of the major reasons we have a problem that of problem is that lack of productivity and that's what needs addressing. it's not just about productivity in the about brexit productivity in the pubuc about brexit productivity in the public sector is exceptionally poorin public sector is exceptionally poor in the united kingdom. that means that taxpayers are paying a lot more tax for poorer services . so that's an issue services. so that's an issue that needs to be addressed . we that needs to be addressed. we do make more of the do need to make more of the commonwealth. so welcome this commonwealth. so i welcome this agreement that's been signed, but the commonwealth is with a heck of a lot to as africa's a real opportunity for to us do business. i do agree with sean. we've been sluggish in terms of developing trade elsewhere beyond the eu, so there's much more to be done . but it's more to be done. but it's a complex picture. >> it's wiener. i think we both voted remain , but i cannot for voted remain, but i cannot for the life of find this brexit the life of me find this brexit disaster anywhere . disaster anywhere. >> well, whenever you have a change, whenever you have some kind of disruption, people kind of disruption, then people
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have to get used to doing have got to get used to doing things pandemic plus plus things like a pandemic plus plus a plus the war in a pandemic, plus the war in ukraine, which neither of you have for heaven's have mentioned, for heaven's sake. so that you people have to get to doing things in get used to doing things in a slightly different doing slightly different way, doing doing paperwork, of doing the paperwork, which of course all be on online. course should all be on online. and the best companies are getting that organised. we have never really had a balance of trade in this country in the positive right . my master's positive right. my master's degree is in economic history, so we, we trade goods and we tend on the whole to have a deficit with whoever we're deaung deficit with whoever we're dealing with . and what we do is dealing with. and what we do is we pay for it by having magnificent financial services , magnificent financial services, insurance shipbroking and all that kind of and the creative industries. it's been like that for years. but the inflation for 200 years. but the inflation as well, there's a point here. i have three public pensions of one kind or another because i have police, i've got pensions, envy , pension. look, two of them envy, pension. look, two of them went up by over 10% in april. and that's government policy to
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push these, you know, the state pension and all the rest of it. they all went up, the triple lock came into play and so on. and that means if you give a lot of people more than inflation in their pocket, they're going to spend it. >> go figure. okay. well, listen , what do you think? is this deal game changer or do you deal a game changer or do you share sean's view that, frankly, it's gruel given we're out it's thin gruel given we're out of the block? let me know. market cbnnews.com. up market cbnnews.com. coming up next in the big story is home secretary suella braverman right that are the political that labour are the political wing of just stop oil? i'll be asking an ex labour mp don't go
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listening to gb news radio. >> welcome back to the show, mark at cbnnews.com is the email. the emails are coming in thick and fast . clive says, hi thick and fast. clive says, hi mark. a new deal with a group of countries, the other side of the world. our gdp is nowhere safe with our current balance sheet .
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with our current balance sheet. looking at other countries, condition doesn't make our deal more satisfactory . it's just a more satisfactory. it's just a smokescreen . john, how about smokescreen. john, how about this one from alex? covid 19 doubled our national debt . let's doubled our national debt. let's take that into consideration when discussing the state of the economy . me and when discussing the state of the economy. me and jim when discussing the state of the economy . me and jim says when discussing the state of the economy. me and jim says hi, mark. a very correct decision being sullied by socialist conservatives as the eu is undergoing severe problems which will worsen in the next years. energy is our problem . we must energy is our problem. we must drop the purely political net zero and climate hoax , says jim. zero and climate hoax, says jim. listen jim, a lot of majority perhaps of climate scientists believe that it is a real concern. climate change. but of course you're entitled to your opinion. that's what this show is all about. keep them coming . is all about. keep them coming. market gbnews.com. it's time now for big story and home for the big story and the home secretary suella braverman has written of written to the leader of the opposition, starmer , opposition, sir keir starmer, about to scrap north about his plans to scrap north sea oil and gas licences should he enter number 10, arguing this will risk jobs and future energy supply and energy security.
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braverman tells starmer that labour are the political wing of just stop oil is she right? let's get the views now of ex—labour mp and highly in—demand broadcaster and entertainer stephen pound. hi stephen. listen, it's a powerful line, isn't it? labour are the political wing of just stop oil, will it stick? well, i have to say, i don't know whether this is just farcical or absolutely contemptible. >> i was getting a bit worried about the byelections this week until and i realised until i read this and i realised that tories and are that the tories and are absolutely into the absolutely diving into the gutter shaun woodward gutter. look, shaun woodward and i in northern ireland. i i were in northern ireland. i worked him in northern worked for him in northern ireland. of had ireland. if either of us had used notepaper used house of commons notepaper in our positions at the time to make any sort of a political statement like we would statement like this, we would have jobs. the have lost ourjobs. the situation braverman, the have lost ourjobs. the situatunsuccessfulerman, the have lost ourjobs. the situatunsuccessful ,rman, the have lost ourjobs. the situatunsuccessful , the 1, the have lost ourjobs. the situatunsuccessful , the most most unsuccessful, the most failure prone home secretary since well, since suella braverman resigned last year, who's lost control of the police , lost control of immigration, lost home office, lost control of the home office, lost control of the home office, lost crime , lost control of knife crime, lost control of knife crime, lost of the streets. she
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lost control of the streets. she is now taken totally unsure is now taken a totally unsure story with no evidence whatsoever for nominally based on an internal memo between two bunches of narcissi mystic loonies who claim to be talking to somebody from the labour party. the daily mail printed up with no screenshots, no screengrabs , no information, no screengrabs, no information, no data whatsoever and i have to say suella braverman i honestly hoped and thought and prayed that she was better than this. this is contemptible, utter nonsense . we all know keir nonsense. we all know what keir starmer thinks about just stop nonsense. we all know what keir sta|the thinks about just stop nonsense. we all know what keir sta|the thinks that it just stop nonsense. we all know what keir sta|the thinks that pretty stop nonsense. we all know what keir sta|the thinks that pretty much oil. the thinks that pretty much the same as the rest of us. a bunch narcissistic egomaniacs bunch of narcissistic egomaniacs . sea oil, what . and as for north sea oil, what we're talking about here is actually transit running from the industry industrial the current industry industrial situation. the people in the nonh situation. the people in the north sea to new jobs slowly over time. by 2030. and let's never get the situation we had before where the pits were closed down and the miners were shut out. and to this day, those coalfield communities are suffering. keir starmer being suffering. keir starmer is being sensible, , articulate sensible, pragmatic, articulate and forward thinking. suella brodmann is diving into the gutter and she brings politics
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into . into disrepute. >> you're going have to get >> you're going to have to get off that fence. pound off that fence. stephen pound i mean, listen , you say of mean, listen, you say all of that, but starmer has been supported by a very, very key supporter of just stop oil the businessman dale vince has given £1.5 million to the labour party over the last few years. he backs just stop oil and he does want to tear up those oil and gas licences in the north sea , gas licences in the north sea, which even the unions who support labour are furious about it. >> well, hang on a second. firstly you know, he also sponsors forest green rovers , sponsors forest green rovers, you know, doesn't stop people supporting the football team. you have by you can't have guilt by association for the conservative party have taken five times that amount money from oil gas amount of money from oil and gas industries the last 3 or 4 industries in the last 3 or 4 years. last two years, be years. the last two years, to be precise. doesn't actually precise. so it doesn't actually buy influence overtly. the labour party is not in anybody's pocket. not going to pocket. we're not going to do what vince us to do. what dale vince tells us to do. it's absolutely ludicrous suggestion, in all honesty, suggestion, but in all honesty, you really think for a minute that the most unpopular of that the most unpopular group of people in this country, which
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are narcissist are probably those narcissist s wandering the a40, wandering up and down the a40, blocking traffic, are going wandering up and down the a40, bl i know. >> i know. >> let's don't forget the germans went for thing called nordsee to the idea of a direct link from russia to germany . we link from russia to germany. we neven link from russia to germany. we never, ever went down that road and we are not anti—nuclear by any stretch of the imagination.
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what we are anti is anti the chinese building our nuclear power and having power stations and having control the levers of those control over the levers of those power stations as the conservatives doing. conservatives are doing. but more importantly, why on earth should be made in should wind turbines be made in south sweden when south korea and sweden when we're talking about green industries, about industries, we're talking about proper industry, real metal bashing industry that you and i know about these we should be building turbines in building these wind turbines in this country. they should be built they should this country. they should be built southampton,|ey should this country. they should be built southampton, theyiould this country. they should be built southampton, they should this country. they should be buibuilt uthampton, they should this country. they should be buibuilt imampton, they should this country. they should be buibuilt in south»n, they should this country. they should be buibuilt in south wales. should this country. they should be buibuilt in south wales. and jld be built in south wales. and that's what we're talking about investing industries. investing in green industries. it much sense. i'm sick it makes so much sense. i'm sick and fed up of having all our energy owned by by the germans and by the french. and if we want to query your bill now, you've speak or you've got to speak french or german, far you've got to speak french or ge i'm n, far you've got to speak french or ge i'm concerned far you've got to speak french or ge i'm concerned . far you've got to speak french or ge i'm concerned . we far you've got to speak french or ge i'm concerned . we fhave you've got to speak french or ge iown oncerned . we fhave you've got to speak french or ge iown energyd . we fhave you've got to speak french or ge iown energy sources fhave you've got to speak french or ge iown energy sources ourfhave you've got to speak french or ge iown energy sources our owne our own energy sources, our own energy supply in this country, and building those and we should be building those wind as we need for wind turbines as we all need for the sorry about the the future. sorry about the rant. have to have balls of rant. i'd have to have balls of steel to defend that one, mate. i'll tell you. >> nicely thank for >> nicely done. thank you. for name catalogue name checking my back catalogue of hits. stephen pound will of tv hits. stephen pound will catch up soon. ex—labour mp what do you agree ? do do you think? do you agree? do
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you you back keir you disagree? do you back keir starmer's plan to invest in renewables? should he become prime minister? i think it's a massive punt . prime minister? i think it's a massive punt. i think it's a huge gamble. i think it is failed and i think failed for germany and i think we've got to keep a bit of fossil on the back burner. fossil fuel on the back burner. i would not be tearing up those oil and gas licences. yes, invest green , but keep fossil invest in green, but keep fossil fuel going until monsters like putin have been dealt with. coming up next, my pundits tackling the big stories of the day. but first, the weather that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey your gb news weather forecast provided by the metaphor . i forecast provided by the metaphor. i hope you forecast provided by the metaphor . i hope you were forecast provided by the metaphor. i hope you were able to enjoy your weekend. it has been a rather blustery one for many of us, but as we to many of us, but as we come to the end sunday, low pressure the end of sunday, low pressure is its way off towards is pushing its way off towards scandinavia allowing scandinavia, allowing those isobars out and the isobars to widen out and the winds be easing throughout winds will be easing throughout this overnight .
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this evening and overnight. still, though, some showers lingering primarily across western england and western areas of england and wales , but more persistently wales, but more persistently across of scotland. some across areas of scotland. some longer in there at times longer spells in there at times as well. elsewhere, we will see some clear intervals developing and clear intervals, and in those clear intervals, temperatures dropping down to around 11 or 12 c. so touch fresher compared to some recent nights where you have those clear intervals though it means that you'll see some sunshine. clear intervals though it means that thing see some sunshine. clear intervals though it means that thing see sonoff,unshine. clear intervals though it means that thing see sonoff, the1ine. first thing to start off, the new week, a cloudy new working week, a cloudy affair scotland . but all of affair for scotland. but all of us eventually see some us will eventually see some showers developing as we head throughout there throughout the day. again, there could be heavy in places particularly central particularly through central eastern england . some eastern areas of england. some thunderstorms is also thunderstorms and hail is also possible. with winds possible. but with the winds turning lighter compared to the weekend where you see those sunny intervals in between the showers, just feel that showers, it will just feel that bit as well. highs around bit warmer as well. highs around 20, 23 c into tuesday. our focus then turns to this low pressure centre that's going to start pushing in from the pushing its way in from the west. a damp start west. so quite a damp start to tuesday northern ireland and tuesday for northern ireland and that rain then its way that rain will then push its way into northern wales, northern england, of southern england, parts of southern scotland north of scotland as well, far north of scotland as well, far north of scotland sunshine scotland, seeing sunshine and
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news radio. yes >> an email has come in from wendy. good evening, mark. never voted for labour and never will. but stephen pound really is exceptional . no nonsense exceptional. no nonsense political force . all political political force. all political parties should take note . great parties should take note. great show, by the way. well, wendy, thank do know
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thank you so much. do you know what like politicians what i like? i like politicians because they can be honest, right? they're not they're not on farage they can be on message farage they can be funny can tell you what funny and they can tell you what they think, which is what they really think, which is what my are going do my three pundits are going to do tonight. former tonight. shaun woodward, former labour state tonight. shaun woodward, former lab northern state tonight. shaun woodward, former lab northern edwina state for northern ireland, edwina currie, tory mp and junior currie, ex tory mp and junior health minister, and simon danczuk, former labour mp for rochdale , now the labour leader, rochdale, now the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says he cannot promise big increases in public spending if the party win the next pressed for his next election. pressed for his plans on tv this morning, starmer declined to say what kind pay increases labour kind of pay increases labour would offer public sector workers, preferring to focus his plans on growth whilst promising responsible economics. so does starmer's unwillingness to spend his way into downing street show that labour are serious about power or is he just being shifty? edwina you do realise mark, don't you? >> you've got on this sofa, you've got two labour former labour mps , two former tory mps labour mps, two former tory mps and two former health ministers i >> --
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>> this is 5mm >> this is like a quiz. which one is it? >> it's also a bit like a maths a—level question. yes. how do you get five ministers into three people? you get five ministers into threwell,iple? you go. sean's >> well, there you go. sean's been them. been all three of them. >> the way. i just say, >> by the way. can i just say, how get five ministers how do you get five ministers into three people? is sentence into three people? is a sentence that misconstrued that could be badly misconstrued . show . so . and it's a family show. so we'll move on. what was your question? a movie i'd pay question? that's a movie i'd pay to see. edwina do think is to see. edwina do you think is this sign that starmer is this a sign that starmer is getting serious about power , or getting serious about power, or is being shifty? he is he just being shifty? he won't led on what kind of pay won't be led on what kind of pay rises the sector would get. >> well, unfortunate . it means >> well, unfortunate. it means that main parties that both the main parties sound a too much like each other. a bit too much like each other. i'm it's i'm afraid. i mean, it's actually hard to cut public spending when everybody has got used to it during covid and getting us all used to actually taking responsible rmt for our lives, changing our behaviour to cope with inflation and so on, thatis cope with inflation and so on, that is actually quite quite an ask . what starmer is doing is ask. what starmer is doing is being told by a woman what to do. i'm waiting for rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor, to actually start talking about household budgets and handbags .
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household budgets and handbags. at some point. then we will know that the labour party is serious about taking office. he's being told he cannot make big spending plans or there not going to be credible when they come to a general election and in fact she's right about that. she's got she rates rachel reeves would make a much better labour party leader. i think , than keir party leader. i think, than keir starmer. but the labour party still uselessly has not got its head around the idea that women can be leaders. >> i'm not sure . well, well, >> i'm not sure. well, well, there's some truth to that , there's some truth to that, rachel. i'm not sure about rachel. i'm not sure about rachel reeves as a leader. she's very dour . i rachel reeves as a leader. she's very dour. i mean, she puts she makes gordon brown look exciting, but start verdict. you talk about credibility . and talk about credibility. and that's that's a problem starmer has got he has a credibility problem because he got himself elected as leader , appealing to elected as leader, appealing to the far left and that got him elected. and now he's trying to transition to the centre ground of politics. and so he's flip flopping on a whole range of
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issues. it was not long ago they were both promising. reeves and starmer to borrow £28 billion a year to invest in a green plan. and now they're trying to roll back from that. so we don't really know what he stands for. and that's an issue that's going to more and we to come out more and more as we get closer general election. >> yeah, well, what do you think about this about his performance on tv this morning? on what morning? not being led on what kind rises the public morning? not being led on what kind wouldises the public morning? not being led on what kind would accrue? public morning? not being led on what kind would accrue? lookc morning? not being led on what kind would accrue? look the sector would accrue? look the best way to judge keir starmer performance with huge respect to my two friends here. >> comes in in style. now >> oh, he comes in in style. now strap yourselves in. what we might think it's might personally think it's actually what voters think actually what the voters think and what quite clear right and what is quite clear right there that the labour party there is that the labour party with keir starmer as leader has there is that the labour party wstonkerstarmer as leader has there is that the labour party wstonker ingner as leader has there is that the labour party wstonker ing great; leader has there is that the labour party wstonker ing great leadier has there is that the labour party wstonker ing great lead overas a stonker ing great lead over the government at the moment. >> appeal. well no, but we are. >> appeal. well no, but we are. >> have you ever met a keir starmer fan? let's be honest about this. we're all old enough to remember previous elections about this. we're all old enough to rewe mber previous elections about this. we're all old enough to rewe rememberous elections about this. we're all old enough to rewe remember neilelections about this. we're all old enough to rewe remember neil kinnock as and we remember neil kinnock as leader of the labour party. he never this of lead. never had this kind of lead. this is a very significant lead. we're looking at the kind of
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numbers is that tony blair had in the years in which edwina was a minister and what i think we've got to see here is that the public it's not about what we think , it's what the public we think, it's what the public thinks and the public has had enough this government. thinks and the public has had enough this government . and i enough of this government. and i think keir starmer is think what keir starmer is showing he says, i'm not to showing when he says, i'm not to going discuss pay increases, i'm not government the same not the government is the same discipline that and brown discipline that blair and brown showed. and if they continue with this discipline, then what we will see is they will be elected because discipline matters as it's the same discipline that mrs. thatcher showed as she ran up towards the election in 1979. and it's the right thing to do. and actually what it shows is you are serious about being in government because it's only when you are in government and you have got the treasury and all those civil servants with you that you actually know what you really does. >> it does. >> it does. >> it does. >> it set labour up for an almighty civil war should they get into because think get into power? because i think we agree if they do we can all agree that if they do get be a slender
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majority. >> i think wishful thinking. >> i think won't get >> i think they won't get a landslide. think by our landslide. i think by our opponents wishful thinking. opponents it's wishful thinking. what extraordinary is what i think is extraordinary is that a party that has that this is a party that has had jeremy corbyn as leader just a years ago, championed by a few years ago, championed by the party. >> starmer was his best >> now, starmer was his best mate, magnificently defeated. >> and i say that with huge irony. in 2019, now looks like it is sat nothing taken for you. >> haven't answered my civil war question. simon well, two points. >> i think if the conservative mps were only slightly more disciplined than labour would not be in the frame in terms of the general election, that's key. >> that's right. and discipline is part of approaching a general election general election election or a general election year think next year will year is i think next year will be. and what starmer and i think rachel are doing is rachel reeves are doing is rubbing out the little bit that can give the opposite that the opposition to them something to work on. if they're behaving themselves it's much harder to attack them and to suggest that they will be irresponsible if they're in government . and the
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they're in government. and the irresponsibility almost feels the other way round. i hate to say it and i hope none of my tory friends are listening to this, but we've had three prime ministers in a year , five ministers in a year, five secretaries of state for education, umpteen ministers of health. we're about to have a new secretary of state for defence while we're in the middle of a european war. some thing on that feels quite fragile . that's not how you want fragile. that's not how you want to be as you're going into general. you want to look confident, you want to look on top if you don't look top of things. if you don't look on things, you don't on top of things, if you don't look are look in charge, how are you going anybody to look in charge, how are you goingfor anybody to look in charge, how are you goingfor you anybody to look in charge, how are you goingfor you in anybody to look in charge, how are you goingfor you in termsybody to look in charge, how are you goingfor you in terms of»dy to vote for you in terms of a labour government, there will be concern and you've got concern and you've already got today sharon graham, today you've got sharon graham, leader trade union, leader of unite trade union, coming out there , the biggest coming out there, the biggest backer of labour, saying we want nationalisation of energy and steel. >> you've got mick lynch , leader >> you've got mick lynch, leader of rmt, saying it needs to be a socialist government, not a labour government. there's going to be heck a fight . to be one heck of a fight. >> i agree with you. >> i agree with you. >> simon and the issue that labour have it's
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labour will have is if it's a slender majority, five, ten, 15 seats, puts the corbynites seats, that puts the corbynites in the driving seat. keir starmer will have to negotiate with john mcdonnell and richard burgon. good luck with that. what do you think, margaret gbnews.com my brilliant pundits are back in just a few minutes. but coming up next, my mark meets guest is former trade and defence secretary, dr. liam fox, one of the founding fathers of brexit. he's live in the studio. see you .
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in two. welcome back to i'm just whispering to my mark meets guest. listen, the results are in an exclusive mark dolan in from an exclusive mark dolan tonight asking tonight poll we've been asking as sir keir starmer refuses to say whether a labour government would money on public would spend more money on public services. they services. does this prove they can be trusted with the economy 7 can be trusted with the economy ? does it prove they're serious about power ? dear. a good about power? oh dear. not a good result starmer . 18.2% say result for starmer. 18.2% say yes it does . 81.8% are not
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yes it does. 81.8% are not convinced it's time now for this . it's convinced it's time now for this .wsfime convinced it's time now for this . it's time now for mark meets. and this evening, one of the most experienced and respected politicians in the country and one of the founding fathers of brexit, dr. liam fox, the conservative member of parliament for north somerset and former secretary of state for international trade and secretary of state for defence, liam fox studied medicine at the university of glasgow and worked as a gp and civilian army doctor before entering parliament in 1992 and the rest is history. dr. liam fox , welcome to the dr. liam fox, welcome to the studio. thanks very much. great to have you here. first of all, congratulations are in order. cp which is a fantastic trade bloc that we are part of, which i think amounts to about £12 trillion worth of potential trade, biggest trading bloc in the world now bigger than the eu. you began negotiations for this deal in 2018. well it's
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great to see it signed by kemi today. >> the potential is because it's the fastest growing bloc in the world, its potential is what it offers to us in the future rather than the snapshot of where it is today. as kemi badenoch said this morning, this is an empowering agreement. it takes british businesses to want to use it for us to maximise the benefit in terms of exports , benefit in terms of exports, although there's also the benefit in terms of investment. cp countries already employ in britain around 400,000 people. so this makes the investments in britain easier. so it's likely to attract yet further investment to britain and remember that in terms of value of investments and in terms of jobs created by overseas investments into britain, we are the top country in europe now . the top country in europe now. >> it's fantastic news and we still have tariff free trade with the eu people forget that. they think because of brexit we somehow don't trade with the eu or we've got massive costs or whatever. that whatever. you know, we know that there but in the end there are issues, but in the end
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we're now trading with the world. that was the promise of brexit. what say to those brexit. what do you say to those who sort of bandy this figure around that brexit is going to cost british economy 4% and cost the british economy 4% and that the benefits of this new deal that began negotiations deal that you began negotiations for will give us about 0.08% gdp. >> i take all of this with a big pinch of salt because i remember what we were told before the referendum. i remember george osborne chancellor saying it osborne as chancellor saying it would cost 500,000 jobs. the cbi saying it would cost 1 million. the lib dems 3 million jobs. we actually reduced our actually have reduced our unemployment rate from 4.72 to 3.9% since we left the european union, and we've added a million jobs to our economy in terms of growth. france has grown 8.8. britain 8.7, germany 8.1. italy 6.1. so clearly it's not having an effect on our growth the way that was predicted. and by july 2022, not only were our exports to the european union the highest since brexit, they were the highest ever. >> yes, it's amazing . the
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>> yes, it's amazing. the exports to the eu are up and exports to the eu are up and exports to the rest of the world are up. it is working and that's in the backdrop of a global pandemic, an energy price crisis as result of the war in as a result of the war in ukraine and other factors . and ukraine and other factors. and overall, though not notwithstanding that, how do you feel brexit going? because feel brexit is going? because many the many of your colleagues on the backbenches are not happy that brexit been fulfilled. brexit has been fulfilled. they're happy about northern they're not happy about northern ireland and they're not happy about rules about a lot of eu rules and regulations still in place. >> well, that's a very legitimate worry to have because as mentioned in those countries , france, germany, italy in terms their growth rate, if terms of their growth rate, if you look at the united states, at it's 14.4, at the same time, it's 14.4, considerably more than any european country, which suggests to me that the european economies are not as competitive as they ought to be. we should now be looking to see which parts of those regulatory inheritances that we had from europe we can jettison to make ourselves as competitive an economy as the united states. >> are you disappointed? do you feel that the brexit potential
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has not been tapped into? i mean, we're out. no free mean, yes, we're out. no free movement of our borders movement control of our borders policy, control our cash . no policy, control of our cash. no more closer union, no more ever closer union, no payments of £2 billion a month. >> we are it sounds a pretty good listener. >> bad list, is it? >> it's not a bad list, is it? but many people have got viewers and listeners who just think it's a real brexit. it's still not a real brexit. they don't feel life has changed. >> well, life has changed immediately. i was someone who wanted leave for wanted to leave for constitutional reasons . i constitutional reasons. i believed that sovereign the united kingdom. we should choose who makes our laws. so therefore, for me, brexit was achieved the minute we left . and achieved the minute we left. and i for many people that was i think for many people that was the but also have to the case. but you also have to remember just as we got brexit over line , we were hit by over the line, we were hit by the pandemic and that's had a big impact on trade apart big impact on global trade apart from anything else, not least in supply and so on. and it supply chains and so on. and it will take a little while for that to unravel. meanwhile, we should see where should be looking to see where we find the opportunity is we can find the opportunity is in world's growing markets , in the world's growing markets, not just, as i said, for exports, but also for investment from those because they will
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generate jobs in britain and ultimately the measure of brexit will be in the longer term will be did the government of the day, party use the day, of whatever party use the freedoms gave them freedoms that brexit gave them to maximise the prosperity of the british people ? the british people? >> what are the percentage chances that in the next ten years brexit will play out very badly and there will be pressure for us to rejoin? you see for us to rejoin? do you see that happening ? that happening? >> i think the british >> no, i don't think the british people buy people are ever to going buy into a european project that is based closer union that based on ever closer union that will increasingly take our sovereignty away from us. it would require us to join schengen so there would be completely free movement and we'd have to take the euro and we'd have to take the euro and we would have to join the euro. but it would people but it would mean that people who into the southern border who got into the southern border of greece , for example, would of greece, for example, would legitimately able to come to legitimately be able to come to the kingdom . the united kingdom. >> what would you say to those businesses struggling >> what would you say to those businessthey've struggling >> what would you say to those businessthey've strup|ling though? they've given up exporting, . they've exporting, some of them. they've got extra costs. can't get got extra costs. they can't get hold materials hold of certain materials as quickly as they to. the quickly as they used to. the people who are democrats, they accept the result but are
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suffering a result of brexit. suffering as a result of brexit. what would say to them? what would you say to them? >> businesses who >> well, some businesses who have traded exclusively with europe those europe will have some of those frictions but that's the frictions, but that's not the majority our companies. very majority of our companies. very few companies only few british companies only export the european union . export to the european union. most will export worldwide , most will export to worldwide, including the european union, or there'll exporting services there'll be exporting services which don't fall under goods. so my advice would to be try to look for other markets and try to encourage would that not enrage them? >> could that not be quite insulting? >> well, it's not insulting. it's say if you're having it's to say if you're having trouble, try find other trouble, try and find other markets also use. markets that you can also use. and we should still be working with to try with the european union to try to iron out any of the wrinkles because it works in both directions. free trade is a win win and to maintain restrictions between us doesn't actually suit either party. >> now, you've had a very long and distinguished career in politics and you've been a cabinet minister and you are one of the chief architects of brexit as well. and this amazing trade deal today , cp and many trade deal today, cp and many other things, you were really
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the flagbearer for britain as a sort of global economic force when you were in the cabinet and you've actually had a couple of tilts at becoming leader the tilts at becoming leader of the conservative got tilts at becoming leader of the consof/ative got tilts at becoming leader of the consof fanse got tilts at becoming leader of the consof fanse any got lots of fans out there. any regrets that you didn't get the top job? >> well, i suppose you always regret if you go for something and it and you think and don't get it and you think of how you could have shaped things, know, that's you things, but you know, that's you take politics. it's you take the rough with the smooth. and i've been very lucky. i was a minister in john major's government a minister in government as a minister in david cameron's government, as a minister in theresa may's government and i think one of the advantages of that is it gives long perspective . it gives you a long perspective. it gives you a long perspective. it gives you a long perspective. it gives you also a collective memory that i think is missing too in politics today. too much in politics today. people who come into parliament for time and then leave for a short time and then leave without getting a long without getting a getting a long term view of how our political system works . system works. >> i know you're supportive of rishi sunak. you're a loyal party man, but if you were prime minister, what would you be doing differently to what sunak currently is? >> i think he is doing
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>> well, i think he is doing a great job and i think he has really steadied ship. really steadied the ship. i think he's understood that . and think he's understood that. and given the amount of debt that britain has, we've got to keep confidence in markets. that confidence in the markets. that was main , i think, was the main, i think, difference had. think difference that he had. i think he got to he understands that we've got to set out our policies, explain them rationally to the voters. and i think he's got to also point out the danger of the labour party because keir starmer has been talks a lot about today. and here's a man who only in 2019 told us that jeremy corbyn was a perfectly acceptable prime minister a labour party that was riddled with anti semitism, that was anti nato and unilateral disarming leader and jeremy corbyn. so excuse me if i don't place much faith in. keir starmer briefly , it's so great starmer briefly, it's so great to have you in the studio. >> you must come back again soon because i love ex—cabinet ministers because they can be honest they really honest and say what they really think, you? what think, what's next for you? what would do ? would would you like to do? would you consider frontline politics? >> well, i want to help the conservatives to win the next election. i leave it to the
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prime minister to decide what role he thinks that might be best ever. >> the diplomat liam fox , great >> the diplomat liam fox, great to have in your studio. catch up with very and coming with you very soon. and coming up, very busy hour up, we've got a very busy hour and , we'll be talking and widdecombe, we'll be talking about whether prince george should enter the military before becoming king. and also keir starmer, not keir starmer sadiq khanis starmer, not keir starmer sadiq khan is giving free school meals to london kids. is it the government's job to feed our children? but next up, i'll be deaung children? but next up, i'll be dealing with huw edwards many people to move on. well, people want us to move on. well, i'm not moving on. it's not going happen. are so going to happen. there are so many that remain many questions that remain unanswered. on unanswered. i'll be focusing on huw edwards after this . see you huw edwards after this. see you in to the temperature's rising boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. i hope you were able to enjoy your weekend. it has been a rather blustery one for many us, we to many of us, but as we come to the end sunday, low pressure
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the end of sunday, low pressure is way off towards is pushing its way off towards scandinavia and those scandinavia and allowing those isobars widen out and the isobars to widen out and the winds be easing throughout winds will be easing throughout this overnight . this evening and overnight. still, though, some showers lingering primarily across western areas of england and wales , more persistently wales, but more persistently across scotland . some across areas of scotland. some longer there at times longer spells in there at times as well. elsewhere, we will see some clear intervals developing and in those clear intervals, temperatures dropping down to around 12 c. so touch around 11 or 12 c. so touch fresher compared to some recent nights where you have those clear intervals, though, it means that you'll see some sunshine. start sunshine. first thing to start off, new working week, off, the new working week, a cloudy for scotland . but cloudy affair for scotland. but all of us will eventually see some showers developing as we head again head throughout the day. again there could heavy in places, there could be heavy in places, particularly central there could be heavy in places, particul areas central there could be heavy in places, particul areas england al there could be heavy in places, particul areas england .l there could be heavy in places, particul areas england . some eastern areas of england. some thunderstorms and hail is also possible. but with the winds turning lighter compared the turning lighter compared to the weekend where you see those sunny intervals between the sunny intervals in between the showers, just feel that showers, it will just feel that bit well. highs around bit warmer as well. highs around 20 to 23 c into tuesday. our focus then turns to this low pressure centre that's going to start in start pushing its way in from the west. a damp start
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the west. so quite a damp start to tuesday for northern ireland and rain will its and that rain will then push its way northern wales, way into northern wales, northern , parts of northern england, parts of southern well. southern scotland as well. finally seeing finally for scotland, seeing sunshine far sunshine and showers, the far south—east of england as well as well dry well staying relatively dry throughout . but well staying relatively dry throughout. but as head throughout. but as we head towards the week, towards the end of the week, sunshine showers sunshine and showers returns once again by the temperatures rising . rising. >> boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on .
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i'll be asking some tough questions that remain unanswered in just a couple of minutes. also should prince george serve in the military before becoming king? and as london mayor, sadiq khan announces free school meals for every primary school pupil? is it the state's job to feed our children? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, former government minister ann widdecombe and mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from exactly 1030 sharp with full pundit reaction tonight, simon danczuk , edwina tonight, simon danczuk, edwina currie and shaun woodward . currie and shaun woodward. the media elite think the huw edwards story is quietly going away . not on my watch. i'll be away. not on my watch. i'll be deaung away. not on my watch. i'll be dealing with huw edwards in two minutes time after the headlines with aaron armstrong .
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with aaron arm strong. >> with aaron armstrong. >> very good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. spain's carlos alcaraz has won wimbledon for the first time, ending novak djokovic . his time, ending novak djokovic. his recent dominance on centre court . alcaraz, the world number one, came a set down to came from a set down to eventually edge a five set classic. it was the second longest wimbledon final . it longest wimbledon final. it prevented djokovic from equalling a number of records. he was chasing an eighth men's title at the all england club and his in a row, plus a and his fifth in a row, plus a 24th grand overall , the 24th grand slam win overall, the serb's last defeat on centre court came against andy murray in 2013. europe's bracing for a severe heat storm this week , severe heat storm this week, with predictions of record temperatures on the continent. wildfires continue to burn out of control on the spanish island of control on the spanish island of la palma in the canaries , at of la palma in the canaries, at least 4000 people have been evacuated as a result, british holidaymakers travelling to southern europe are being advised to take precautions with temperatures predicted to climb
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as high as 49 degrees. south korea has also been hit by extreme weather, with rescue teams continuing to retrieve victims trapped in a flooded tunnel. it's unclear how many people remain missing. there have been at least 37 deaths as a result of landslides and floods caused by heavy rain . floods caused by heavy rain. scientists believe heat waves and flooding are becoming more frequent and more intense because of climate . change a pod because of climate. change a pod of more than 50 pilot whales have died after a mass stranding on a scottish beach . they were on a scottish beach. they were washed up at north tolsta on the isle of lewis, around 7 am. this morning. marine rescuers believe only 15 initially survived , but efforts to refloat survived, but efforts to refloat a number of them failed. the cause of the stranding is unknown. it is thought the highly social mammals may have fallen in a weak or sick member of the pod . the government is of the pod. the government is hailing the uk, joining an indo—pacific trading bloc. but critics say the economic benefits will be minimal . benefits will be minimal. business secretary kemi badenoch
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says the deal will bring british companies a step closer to a market of 500 million people opening up access to £12 trillion worth of global trade . trillion worth of global trade. however, officials estimate that it will add just £18 billion a year to the economy , year to the economy, representing less than a% of uk gdp. and the last ship to set sail from ukraine under the black sea grain deal has left the port of odesa a day before the port of odesa a day before the agreement expires . it allows the agreement expires. it allows ukraine to safely export grain and fertiliser while the war against russia continues. it's also eased fears of global food shortages while stabilising pnces. shortages while stabilising prices . as russia, though, says prices. as russia, though, says it won't renew the deal until western sanctions on its own exports are lifted , a threat exports are lifted, a threat russia has made before . however, russia has made before. however, president erdogan of turkey , who president erdogan of turkey, who brokered the original agreement with the united nations, says he's confident it will be extended . that is it for the extended. that is it for the moment. we'll be back in about an hour's time. now it's over to
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. mark my thanks to aaron armstrong, who returns in an hour's time. >> welcome to mark dolan tonight . busy hour to come. should prince george serve in the military before becoming king? and as london mayor, sadiq khan announces free school meals for every primary school pupil in the capital, is it the state's job to feed our children? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, former government minister ann widdecombe . and mark dolan widdecombe. and mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from exactly 1030 sharp. plus, my brilliant pundits will be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes. tonight, my pundits are simon danchuk, shaun woodward and edwina currie. big stories, big guests and always big opinions. let's start with my take . at ten
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let's start with my take. at ten in. it's been reported that bbc boss tim davie finds his staff's coverage of the huw edwards sex allegations bizarre bucha. according to the sunday times, mr davie has confirmed an over how bbc staff are covering the situation and plans to talk to the bbc news department about this. does he indeed is he going to tell them off for doing journalism ? his friends allege journalism? his friends allege that mr davie would rather it wasn't dealt with like this. would he not? this is the leader of an organisation that sat on its hands for seven weeks following shocking allegations that their biggest star and the face of their news operation had allegedly paid a crack cocaine addicted teenager, £35,000 for images. nothing to see here. move on. it's becoming increasing clear that huw edwards high profile cheerleaders want this to go away with attacks on the sun for
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merely reporting the testimony of worried parent. yes, i'm sorry. i'm one of those people that if you say that i can't talk about something that is the thing. i'm going to talk about. if you say, look away, nothing to see here. that's the first place i will look, which is why i won't move on from the huw edwards scandal, which is, of course, the great wish of the powerful figures in the media elite who are clearly worried about such an establishment figure falling . they are figure falling. they are circling the wagons to protect their own in life . if something their own in life. if something doesn't make sense , then it doesn't make sense, then it doesn't make sense, then it doesn't make sense, then it doesn't make sense. if it doesn't make sense. if it doesn't feel right, then it isn't right. but we now live in a topsy turvy world where saying what you see and pointing out what you see and pointing out what is perfectly obvious to everyone is a borderline criminal offence . well, allow me criminal offence. well, allow me to commit a few crimes then by asking simple questions. to commit a few crimes then by asking simple questions . why has asking simple questions. why has huw edwards made no denial yet?
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he's being treated for mental health issues and we wish him well . but as health issues and we wish him well. but as he lost the health issues and we wish him well . but as he lost the power well. but as he lost the power of speech, if he can't speak , of speech, if he can't speak, could his family not do it on his behalf, given that they took the decision to name him in the first place? assume i assume, with his consent, why have his family employed the services of ex—con and surely britain's most discredited journalist, andy coulson? this is a guy that was jailed for hacking the phones of pubuc jailed for hacking the phones of public figures, including murdered schoolgirl milly dowler . the guardian report that edwards and his family have turned to this former jailbird for advice on crisis management. surely not the best look given his team of supporters want to characterise edwards as the poor tragic victim . huw edwards is tragic victim. huw edwards is not the victim here until all these allegations are denied and proved to be untrue. the status of victimhood exists only for the young person whose drug
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habit allegedly, allegedly edwards bankrolled with licence fee cash. another victim is the youngster that he allegedly met onune youngster that he allegedly met online who threatening to expose edwards, was apparently sent expletive filled messages, messages verified by the bbc as having come from the star's phone in. what about the beeb employee who alleges that they were sent a private message about their appearance , which about their appearance, which left them with a cold shudder? why was the brilliant victoria derbyshire and the bbc newsnight team invest investigating allegations around huw edwards before the original story broke? derbyshire said on wednesday's show that present and former corporation staff had been sent inappropriate messages by the newsreader and that junior staff felt totally intimidated by him . also was £35,000 really the cost of those images? that's a lot of money for pictures of someone in the nude . given the
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someone in the nude. given the fact that most is free, was that 35 grand? hush money? was it a gagging order or a so—called nda? i would love answers to these questions . as and who is these questions. as and who is paying these questions. as and who is paying the expensive legal fees of this alleged crack cocaine addicted victim who has, i should add, denied the story. do alleged crack cocaine addicts have thousands of pounds for spare central london barristers? i know i don't. and i doubt you do either. the issue that no law has been broken is a red herring. so fat and juicy it would have seafood chef rick stein salivating . are you stein salivating. are you telling me that the man who fronted the queen's funeral and the king's coronation allegedly betraying his wife and five kids whilst parading as a devout christian? isn't a story? are you telling me that's not in the national interest ? huw edwards national interest? huw edwards could be entirely innocent of all of these charges , as all of
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all of these charges, as all of these testimonies could be a witch hunt and a pack of lies, at which point he's back on the telly. no problem. but at the moment, something doesn't feel right. there are more elephants in the room than london zoo . and in the room than london zoo. and to those who want to shut down the story, say. tusk. tusk . the story, i say. tusk. tusk. more questions than answers right now . what's your view? right now. what's your view? mark gbnews.com. let's get reaction from my top pundits. shaun woodward, former labour mp and secretary of state for northern ireland, edwina currie, ex tory mp and junior health minister and simon danczuk, former labour mp for rochdale. simon i don't think we should move on from this story. i think it's in the national interest that we answers. that we get answers. >> i think you're absolutely right. i think it's the hypocrisy that bothers me. people, politicians and people in the media coming out and being supportive of elle edwards is quite ironic. i think when i had a vaguely similar fate
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myself in a vaguely similar situation back in 2016, it didn't involve young men, i might add. the to the luvvies and the lefties went for me. i was hung , and the lefties went for me. i was hung, drawn and quartered in the media and i'd done nothing compared to what elle edwards appears to have done. so there does seem to be some double standards and it's the hypocrisy that concerns me most . that concerns me most. >> shaun woodward is it time to move on from this story? >> no, i don't think it's time to move on from this story. but i'm really sorry. i disagree with you pretty profoundly , with you pretty profoundly, mark, because i don't think that the idea that no law having been broken is a red herring . i think broken is a red herring. i think it's very relevant here. i think , first of all, the fact that the police have now said that there's that there's no evidence that would warrant criminal warrant a criminal investigation. secondly only that the former editor of the sun himself described david yelland. the sun inflicted terror on huw edwards despite no evidence of a criminal offence .
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evidence of a criminal offence. >> what was the terror? >> what was the terror? >> i don't think any terror of which any organisation has the right. >> what was this inflict terror on anyone and we've got to be very careful tonight that we don't add to the terror. >> shaun yes, there are issues to look at here, but i think we should all be really careful on the hand saying huw edwards the one hand saying huw edwards is now in a hospital and we wish him well. but on the other hand, let's inflict a bit more terror. >> some >> no, not we need some sensitivity this . sensitivity to this. >> no, i think i think that i mean, i don't where this mean, i don't know where this terror sun terror comes from. the sun newspaper reported allegations from concerned parents. i from two concerned parents. i don't think this has been cooked up don't think this has been cooked ”p by don't think this has been cooked up by sun. and let's not up by the sun. and let's not forget, shaun, bbc forget, shaun, that the bbc themselves reporting themselves have been reporting this with equal vigour. this story with equal vigour. yeah but the fact of the matter is, the sun launched all this stuff. >> the inference that everybody drew some evidence, a criminal offence had been taken. >> no, there's some. why are you going into bat for this guy ? going into bat for this guy? >> there's some evidence that the bbc were looking into this before the sun allegations
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appeared. >> well, again, one of the things here, mark, is the bbc has produced no evidence. victoria derbyshire and newsnight have not produced anyone. what's extraordinary about this, and i think it's really very concerning, is that there has been no evidence, there has been no evidence, there are no bank statements, there are no bank statements, there are no photographs. there is no proof of anything. what there is, is the suggestion that huw edwards is a despicable person and that he should somehow now completely disappear from life. and we should on the one hand say, oh, we're terribly sorry that he's got a mental pill and his problem, we're very sorry that the poor guy is depressed . but at the same time, depressed. but at the same time, let's attack him some more. depressed. but at the same time, let's attnoz him some more. depressed. but at the same time, let's attno evidence1e more. depressed. but at the same time, let's attno evidence here, re. depressed. but at the same time, let's attno evidence here, mark, there's no evidence here, mark, and i think we genuinely have got to stop trying to be a court when we have no material at all. if there is an investigation to be done , let it be done. but be done, let it be done. but what is the urgent see that we have to pontiff skate and now lampoon this guy and his family
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. okay. and we're not helping by the way, any of the potential victims names by prejudging this with absolutely no evidence whatsoever . or maybe you do have whatsoever. or maybe you do have evidence in which case put it before us. now >> so in the end, i don't think this is an attack. >> edwina, we have questions. this is a guy that's paid for by the taxpayer through the licence fee. he was the face of bbc news or the bbc investigating this. the sun are investigating this. he hasn't denied anything. why has there been no denial? edwina >> you'd have to ask him why. there's no denial. presumably because he's in hospital and he's being treated and so on. but couldn't. couldn't his family deny on his behalf a question. let me let me let me answer it, darling. mark, in my own way, because the bbc does have a very big issue here. and the issue is , is the private the issue is, is the private life of their well known figures, private or not? i mean, are we expecting the people who are we expecting the people who are on presenters and so on to
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behave better than everybody else if they go on to a private on onto a dating website or something like that, is that wrong? are we concerned about it? and so on. now what the problem is for the bbc is that if they say , say your private if they say, say your private life is private , you can do what life is private, you can do what you like, then they are giving a green light to people like gary lineker to talk about politics on a sports show . they're giving on a sports show. they're giving a green light to carol vorderman to keep nasty stuff to keep tweeting nasty stuff about the tories when she's still on bbc radio wales and somewhere along the line, what then gets missed is any kind of balance or or, you know, good behaviour in the presenters from, from my point of view , if from, from my point of view, if you're really worried about what a tv presenter is like in his private life, you've got a problem . he hasn't got the problem. he hasn't got the problem. he hasn't got the problem or she hasn't got the problem, you've got the problem. they are simply obe unlike you, mark, they're simply reading the autocue . they often don't even autocue. they often don't even write it . and we have attached write it. and we have attached far too much significance to
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such individuals. i'm perfectly happy if they have a private life. you want you want to go on a dating website and look for young boys or young girls . and young boys or young girls. and young boys or young girls. and you are a 17, 18, 19 year old and you go on a dating website and you go on a dating website and you're looking for older men . none of my business. it's not my business. >> i do think there are questions to answer. sean, though, and i think you edwards is hoping he's gone silent. he's hoping that he doesn't have to explain what the £35,000 was about. that's a significant question. this guy is paid by the licence fee for over £400,000. a lot of money. >> forgive me . forgive me. >> forgive me. forgive me. you've just repeated it . where's you've just repeated it. where's the evidence , by the way? the evidence, by the way? because i haven't seen it of £35,000, have you? no. no. right. okay first point. secondly was it all paid in one go? have you got proof to explain why ? in other words, explain why? in other words, i could sling out that you got
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£100,000 from some person. three years ago? prove to me that you didn't know. >> it isn't the same. >> it isn't the same. >> no, it isn't. >> it isn't. you can't simply invent an allegation. >> and then expect. james, come on. it's my show. deny it. >> that's brilliant. >> thank you. that's brilliant. folks, debate this folks, i want to debate this more, clocks against us, more, but the clocks against us, we're going to return to this with 1030. sean, with the papers at 1030. sean, i've your flow. i've stopped you in your flow. but come back to this but we will come back to this next be asking ann next up, i'll be asking ann widdecombe george widdecombe should prince george serve before serve in the military before becoming the becoming king? and is it the government's job the government's job to feed the country's children ? we'll country's children? we'll discuss
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news radio. is it the government's job to feed the nation's children? >> we'll discuss that with ann widdecombe . next now , folks, widdecombe. next now, folks, listen, we'll get to that shortly . it is listen, we'll get to that shortly. it is time listen, we'll get to that shortly . it is time now listen, we'll get to that shortly. it is time now for listen, we'll get to that shortly . it is time now for the shortly. it is time now for the newsmaker in which we speak to a fearless commentator on big fearless commentator on the big stories of the day. tonight, the mail report, prince mail on sunday report, prince george will not be expected to serve the military before serve in the military before becoming king. breaking
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centuries tradition . it would centuries of tradition. it would be a significant departure for the royal as the monarch the royal family as the monarch is commander of is commander in chief of britain's forces . george's britain's armed forces. george's father, uncle, grandfather , father, uncle, grandfather, great grandmother and great grandfather all served with the military sticking to a century old precedent. so have the royals dropped the ball on this one? let's ask tonight's newsmaker, the aforementioned turned tv personality, former government minister and best selling ann widdecombe . selling author ann widdecombe. and accept this break and do you accept this break with tradition ? with tradition? >> no, i don't. >> i think it's a very, very big mistake. >> and i wonderjust how far >> and i wonder just how far they've thought this through . they've thought this through. >> and if prince william has discussed this thoroughly with the king, because the idea of the king, because the idea of the royals being in the military isn't just because it's a centuries old tradition . centuries old tradition. >> and it's you know, it's all p°mp >> and it's you know, it's all pomp and ceremony. not at all. they are the head of the military. they're the head of the armed services. if britain goes to war, it is the king acting on the advice of the
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government who sends them to war. now, if they've asking men to go out and fight and die and they themselves have never so much as served in a peacetime military fashion, then inevitably they won't have the same degree of respect and loyalty. i mean, when you hear the troops cheering the king, they're not just cheering the crown and the flag. they're cheering one their own. one cheering one of their own. one of their own. and about the only good thing you can say about this miserable whining, prince harry is about the invictus games . and why did he set that games. and why did he set that up? he'd been in the up? because he'd been in the services. he'd actually been in action, not just in the services he'd been in action. that is what the troops have a right to expect of the monarch. and if this is a serious decision, rather than just tittle tattle coming out of the palace, if this is a serious decision , then this is a serious decision, then it is the wrong one indeed. >> so i do agree with you. after all, our soldiers in the armed forces fight for king and
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country dodi is there any sense an in which this reflects how the wider establishment are beginning to undress , estimate beginning to undress, estimate the importance of our armed forces as yes, well, i mean, they've been doing that for a long time. >> and as much as the armed services have been run down, the reserve also been down. reserve has also been run down. you the equipment is not you know, the equipment is not up scratch always. and so, up to scratch always. and so, you know, the defence budget's been cut and cut and cut . so been cut and cut and cut. so i think that successive governments of both parties have undermined the armed services and this would just be a further blow . i when they're cheering blow. i when they're cheering the king, they're cheering one of their own and i, you know, strongly urge his majesty to consider that and to have a serious conversation with his son and a quick one on london, mayor sadiq khan, who is to provide free meals for all primary school pupils in london from september for, of course,
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we don't want little ones going hungry. >> that's a tragedy . but is it >> that's a tragedy. but is it the government's to job feed our children ? children? >> i know it is not the government's job to feed children, but the awful thing about this proposal is this is going to be every single primary school child, every single one, including the children of middle class parents, wealthy parents, you know, parents who can quite easily afford school meals. so there's going to be a huge waste of expenditure where it isn't needed. now i'm all for helping the children of the seriously poor and disadvantaged. i'm all for that . i don't have a problem for that. i don't have a problem with that. but that should be addressed through the benefit system and the parent are ultimately responsible and that is how it should be. i mean, the idea that you you know, you feed the children of labour mps who send their children to state schools on principle while tutoring them at home, the idea that you feed them , why why that you feed them, why why should we be feeding the
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children of those who can afford to and i wish we had longer. >> i'll catch you in a week's time. have a great week. my thanks to former government minister, bestselling author and tv widdecombe. minister, bestselling author and tv jewel widdecombe. minister, bestselling author and tv jewel in widdecombe. minister, bestselling author and tv jewel in crown decombe. minister, bestselling author and tv jewel in crown de
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and in those clear intervals, temperatures dropping down to around or 12 c. so touch around 11 or 12 c. so touch fresher compared to some recent nights where you have those clear though it means clear intervals though it means that you'll see some sunshine. first thing to start off, the new week, a cloudy first thing to start off, the new for week, a cloudy first thing to start off, the new for scotland, a cloudy first thing to start off, the new for scotland .a cloudy first thing to start off, the new for scotland . but)udy first thing to start off, the new for scotland . but all/ first thing to start off, the new for scotland . but all of affair for scotland. but all of us will eventually see some showers developing as head showers developing as we head throughout again there throughout the day. again there could places, could be heavy in places, particularly through central eastern areas england . some eastern areas of england. some thunderstorms is also thunderstorms and hail is also possible. with winds possible. but with the winds turning lighter compared to the weekend where you see those sunny intervals in between the showers, it will just feel that bit warmer well. highs around bit warmer as well. highs around 20 to 23 c into tuesday. our focus then turns to this low pressure that's going pressure centre that's going to start way from start pushing its way in from the a damp start start pushing its way in from th
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of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> keir starmer faces a fierce backlash about what find out in the papers
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radio. >> let me tell you that i've really enjoyed your company over the last 12 days. that's right. this has been my residency on gb news 12 nights. you've had to put up with me listening on the radio, watching on telly. but i've minute , and i've enjoyed every minute, and i'm very excited to tell you that is back that the big man is back tomorrow. returns at tomorrow. dan wootton returns at 9:00 and he is raring to go. it's just gone 1030. it's time for this . tomorrow's papers hot for this. tomorrow's papers hot off the press. we start with the daily mail. james, what have you got for us? here we go. pm vows to kerb rip off degrees at universities offering rip off courses will be subject to
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strict controls to protect students and taxpayers and all hail tennis's new king carlos the independent . it's the new the independent. it's the new king of centre court . and also king of centre court. and also in an exclusive from the independent. now royal family are dragged into n—word race row offensive slur used over 40 times in royal collection guide to jewellery since 2008 and only removed last week after the independent's actually did an investigation into these public documents. metro staycation beach crisis . raw sewage has beach crisis. raw sewage has been pumped onto dozens of beaches as millions prepare for a uk seaside holiday. how depressing the eye newspaper conservative starmer faces backlash over refusal to scrap child benefits. cap labour leader faces anger in his party after ruling out a change to the controversial tory policy. sir keir refuses to scrap two child benefit cap or commit to greater spending on the nhs and public
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services. if he gets into number 10, doubling down on fiscally conservative economic plans . the conservative economic plans. the guardian alarm as new heat storm threatens to engulf europe and also children waiting years for an adhd assessment, daily star boffins now want us to hug a gull . boffins want people to gull. boffins want people to ditch their hatred of seagulls and make peace with the winged pests because they're not an enemy. there you go. well, i've always found them quite terrifying, but that's just me, isn't it? listen, let's. let's get to my brilliant pundits now for full reaction to the big stories of the day. shaun woodward, former labour mp and secretary of state for northern ireland, edwina currie , ex tory ireland, edwina currie, ex tory mp, star of bbc radio five live, and former junior health minister and ex—labour mp, writer and broadcaster . i should writer and broadcaster. i should say. he's got a book out as well . simon danczuk yes. simon you've written a bit of a thriller, haven't you? what's it called? >> well, scandal at dolphin square. a notorious history.
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yeah so and it's where i live, andifs yeah so and it's where i live, and it's real. >> it's non—fiction, but it reads like a thriller, i'm told. >> it's non—fiction, but it rea�*exactly. thriller, i'm told. >> it's non—fiction, but it rea�*exactly. right.er, i'm told. >> it's non—fiction, but it rea�*exactly. right. yeah, told. >> it's non—fiction, but it rea�*exactly. right. yeah, we d. >> exactly. right. yeah, we cover about scandals, and cover about 100 scandals, and it's just gone paperback, so it's just gone to paperback, so it's just gone to paperback, so it's cheaper . it's even cheaper. >> glad it gave it >> no, i'm glad it gave it a plug. listen, let's get into plug. so listen, let's get into these stories and lots sink these stories and lots to sink our into . so, edwina, can our teeth into. so, edwina, can we can we talk about this story in the i conservative lviv starmer faces backlash over refusal to scrap child benefits. cap very similar to his refusal to say what kind of pay rise the pubuc to say what kind of pay rise the public sector would get. he really is trying to mimic tony blair in 1997, isn't he? >> well, he is. and of course, what happened in 1997 was that the promise was made to keep kenneth clarke as tory budgets , kenneth clarke as tory budgets, and they stuck to it for two years. and the outcome of that was actually our public debt started going down and we were doing very nicely indeed, which then gave them the opportunity to spending money with all to start spending money with all the that we saw later. the outcomes that we saw later. so looks as if what is being so it looks as if what is being acknowledged here, mark, is
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actually conservatives do run the economy much better. >> well, i wonder about that. the is how this will go the issue is how this will go down with the grass roots. they won't happy, will they? simon won't be happy, will they? simon and keir is and, you know, keir starmer is not in number 10 just yet. no that's right. >> there be a lot of >> there will be a lot of lobbying people the left lobbying from people on the left of who are pressing of the party who are pressing him to do more to spend more him to do more and to spend more and taking up the point that you've made is that in 97, the economy was very buoyant and so there was money around. >> that's because we'd been in charge for all those years. well but that's not the situation going into this general election. >> so he's not going to have much money to spend. so it is going a real challenge for going to be a real challenge for him should the general him should they win the general election. i'm to credit election. i'm going to credit him for this, sean, because this just living just tells me that he's living in world. in the real world. >> knows the country is >> he knows that the country is broke spend money broke and he won't spend money we haven't got. i think you're absolutely right. >> and i'm to going entirely agree you with this , which agree with you with this, which is a bit different our is a bit different from our conversation before with huw edwards. something i will edwards. but something i will disagree with. simon about is ,
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disagree with. simon about is, you see, i used to represent a constituent fc in the north of england, saint helens, an and it was a very strong labour constituency, a number of mines that had been closed down under the tory government. so it was absolute heartland labour territory and i don't think you will find a huge number of people in that constituency right now who will say that. keir starmer is wrong about this because first and foremost they want a labour government. secondly and with huge respect, these are actually very smart people . they know that the people. they know that the country doesn't have any money and actually what i found is that when you talk to these people, when you sit down and you actually say what do you want to happen , they want a good want to happen, they want a good britain in which we have strong health services , strong police, health services, strong police, good education. but they're not fools. they know that the money has to come from somewhere and they know there isn't any money at the moment. they
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at the moment. and they they want to get better, but want things to get better, but they want labour to win. so all i would say is just understand that when we sit here and say, yeah , but it's going to upset yeah, but it's going to upset the left . there may be some the left. there may be some people like jeremy corbyn who don't much like it, but in fact the heartland of the labour party , the people who will put party, the people who will put keir into number 10 with a good majority , which is what i think majority, which is what i think he will get , are people who he will get, are people who actually think he's talking sense. >> but the, the seats that were won by boris in 2019, in many of the northern seats and i'm the president of high peak conservative association so we are a key marginal seat in the north of england . they're north of england. they're actually more likely , according actually more likely, according to all the polls, to stay with the tories. and actually, one of the tories. and actually, one of the reasons is exactly what has just been said, what sean's been putting his fingers on, that they understand that if the economy badly run, if there's economy is badly run, if there's a spending goes completely haywire and suddenly there's a
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crackdown and taxes start to have to go up and so on, it's actually some of the poorest in society then have to pay. >> and but let me and they're worried about that. >> much prefer to >> they would much prefer to have balance , but they have a steady balance, but they also are worried about a possible future labour government decides to row back from brexit, which can still happen. there are plenty of people in labour party that people in the labour party that are anti—brexit that are remainers that don't care about the way in which the referendum was held. mean, last time was held. i mean, last time there were political parties going into the election that were saying that they would row back from even a referendum result, that they would go straight into going taking us back into europe. so you know, bear this in mind. back into europe. so you know, bear this in mind . the north of bear this in mind. the north of england thought long and hard , england thought long and hard, as you say, about how they voted . and many of them are going to carry on voting conservative. >> i was is >> the point i was making is that the people the left, not that the people on the left, not the heartland, labour voters , the heartland, labour voters, the heartland, labour voters, the people on left are the people on the left are a challenge for starmer . challenge for starmer. >> the people in the cities, the
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metropolitan labour voters. >> well, the membership and also his mps in parliament. he has a real he doesn't have control over his party like blair had control over the because also blair blair's parliamentary party was was pretty centred around centre left wasn't it. >> absolutely there are i mean how sort of left would you say the current parliamentary party is will be? is or will be? >> well, is the point >> well, this is the point because you had because under corbyn you had a load of labour mps from the far left elected in 2017 and in 2019, roughly how many would you say? >> 20, 30, 2030? >> i would have thought absolutely. who would have put the headbangers? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and he's going have to >> and he's going to have to deal and they could deal with those and they could hold the balance of power in a hung parliament. exactly or if it's majority it's a labour small majority party, labour party, they will be the labour mps holding starmer. party, they will be the labour mps holding starmer . you mps who are holding starmer. you know , and they'll they'll push know, and they'll they'll push his agenda to the left won't they. >> yeah, they'll make challenges. isn't that a concern for you, sean. well you take nothing granted until nothing for granted until polling day comes and you know, until all those votes are counted. >> you do not know the you fancy
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a big majority, don't you? >> i think that the way things are going and i think that there's a you know, there's a real deathwish inside the conservative party at the moment i >> -- >> yeah, that's true. it's hard to imagine the circumstances and not least, of course, what's happening in scotland as well. we've gone from only one labour mp there at the moment to very possibly 51, 20, 25, 30 again because of the collapse of the snp. so there's a lot of things falling in keir's favour , but falling in keir's favour, but every time he has a row with what we describe as the left and what we describe as the left and what i experienced in saint helens was the left amongst constituents who vote doesn't really exist . these are hard really exist. these are hard working families who do not regard themselves as left or right. they just want decent care services, right? >> and don't take for granted. >> and don't take for granted. >> every time he has a row with the left, i think you then see his majority go up because if he stands up to the people, he doesn't feel like 97.
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>> somebody else very kind to tell me to shush. >> i won't do that to you. >> i won't do that to you. >> nobody messes with edwina . >> nobody messes with edwina. >> nobody messes with edwina. >> so everyone's taking for granted actually >> so everyone's taking for grantecare actually >> so everyone's taking for grantecare going actually >> so everyone's taking for grantecare going to :tually >> so everyone's taking for grantecare going to win ly >> so everyone's taking for grantecare going to win .i >> so everyone's taking for grantecare going to win . it's at labour are going to win. it's at least another year until the general think. general election, i think. i said. anything for said. and also take anything for granted and, and but you talk like you do and we can look at the economy , we can see things the economy, we can see things hopefully improving . the hopefully improving. the legislation is going through on legal immigration. there's a whole host of other things happening . it could actually pan happening. it could actually pan out that we win it. we might not win it with a majority of 80, who knows? but it certainly doesn't feel like 1997. >> this is not going to be a landslide. >> i don't think it's 97. all over again. >> can i ask you about this issue? simon regarding how much the state can do in our lives? the mayor of london, sadiq khan, has announced that all primary school pupils will receive free lunches , which is great news for lunches, which is great news for depnved lunches, which is great news for deprived kids, but doesn't make sense for middle class families. but they get them anyway. >> of money. >> cost a lot of money. >> free lunches at >> kids get free lunches at school anyway.
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>> take a listen to >> well, let's take a listen to this and i'd to love get this email and i'd to love get your on this. this email and i'd to love get yousimon on this. this email and i'd to love get yousimon on tifrom john >> simon and it's from john who says, of on says, mark, a family of four on benefits have a bigger benefits could have a bigger family than me and my family income than me and my wife both working , and yet our wife both working, and yet our son with autism does not get free school meals . so how is it free school meals. so how is it that if you live in london, wales and scotland, every child is entitled a free school is entitled to a free school meal right now? make it meal right now? either make it universal in the whole country or just children universal in the whole country orjust children on benefits . or just children on benefits. and that is an important point, isn't it ? what do you think isn't it? what do you think about the state? about the scale of the state? like ann widdecombe, is like i asked ann widdecombe, is it job to feed it the government's job to feed our ? our kids? >> should declare an >> well, i should declare an interest brought on interest. i was brought up on free school meals because i came from parent from a very poor one parent family. so they were really important me and we were able important to me and we were able to claim because we were to claim them because we were living on benefits. so there is a to be played in terms of a role to be played in terms of the that. but when we the state in that. but when we are so tight for money in the country, i mean, spending, creating universal benefits, i just do not think is the solution , you know, making such solution, you know, making such benefits available to everybody
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to wealthy people as well. it has to be more focussed. and so sadiq khan's got it wrong on this. >> we also have to me, simon, a benefits system which is designed so that people would have resources have hopefully enough resources and we know it's never enough, but their families, but to feed their families, does it line in terms of it cross a line in terms of expectations of what the state canwell, i think that's a really >> well, i think that's a really interesting i think interesting point. and i think we have a too big a state. we were talking about growth earlier . i were talking about growth earlier. i think the state needs to be shrunk. government needs to be shrunk. government needs to smaller than what it is to be smaller than what it is currently. we spending far too much. afford as a much. we can't afford as a country to be spending the amount of money government or amount of money by government or on on government. government needs to take a step back. >> sean, i'll come to you just a moment. edwina, you said on more than that the than one occasion that the government can't do everything and we should avoid infantilizing thing. >> the people we should do everything that we can to support and encourage and help and lift people up. and that includes giving, you know, nutritional advice or whatever. and i think the school meals need to be as good quality as
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possible. but sooner or later, people have kids. we want them to be good parents in every way . we want them to encourage the kids to go to school, support the kids at school in every way. so the system that we've had for most of my lifetime is support those who really need it, but encourage everybody else to take responsible liberty. and that seems me basic tory seems to me a basic tory principle. i like it. sean >> we want to look after depnved >> we want to look after deprived but does this deprived kids, but does this policy london let parents off policy in london let parents off the hook? they're responsible to feed kids . feed their kids. >> i very early on in my television career before politics worked for esther rantzen on that's life and i became involved in the early years as deputy chairman of childline and what i learned from working with esther and from working with esther and from childline was was when it comes to children, if we don't look after our children, we don't have a strong society . don't have a strong society. dodiso don't have a strong society. dodi so the issue i would start
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with here is what is the case actually for providing free school meals ? and secondly, to school meals? and secondly, to touch on something edwina picked on, it's not just about providing free school meals, it's what you provide because actually it's not good enough to simply say, well, we've got this great idea. we're going to give people free school meals. it sounds great, but what are you giving them? mean, my daughter giving them? i mean, my daughter ella mills, ella woodward , as ella mills, ella woodward, as she would have been, has a brand called deliciously, ella and ella is really interested in the whole area of young people and nutrition and what we feed people. yeah. so you know, dare i say it, i understand what sadiq is trying to do here, but i think it's a much bigger issue. and edwina did some very interesting work when she was a minister in this area as well. it's not just about saying, even if we can afford it, let's give children free school meals, but what are we giving them? because actually giving them food which
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contributes to kids being overweight and obesity is doing nobody any favours at all. on the other hand, the idea that a child goes hungry and goes to bed hungry is something in a good society that we shouldn't tolerate either on that, we all agree . agree. >> coming up, i've got front pages of the telegraph, the times and the express, plus my punst times and the express, plus my pundits will be nominating their headune pundits will be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes plus , we've been asking zeroes plus, we've been asking on twitter whether or not restaurant with a calorie count are killjoys . we'll discuss that are killjoys. we'll discuss that
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next >> juice is a brilliant well, we've conducted mark dolan tonight people's poll with a simple question as london mayor sadiq khan announces free school meals for every primary school pupil is the state's job to feed
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our children, the results are in . and 46.5% say yes. >> 53.5% say no. so you're slightly split, but a majority for those saying that actually it's up to parents. let's now have a look at tomorrow's express . it's always a good express. it's always a good read. sex predators stalking britain's police stations . are britain's police stations. are sex predators allegedly assaulted more than 170 people on police premises , but very few on police premises, but very few were charged. truly shocking. and also rain in spain. carlos is the new king of wimbledon . is the new king of wimbledon. let's get reaction to all of these stories with my brilliant, brilliant pundits. we have sean woodward , former labour mp and woodward, former labour mp and ex secretary of state for northern ireland, former conservative government minister and five live broadcaster edwina currie and bestselling author and ex—labour mp simon danczuk. well, look, let's see what the papers have got for us and edwina the guardian strike a note of alarm in relation to climate change. the weather alarm as new heat storm threatens to engulf europe. well
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it's partly the language of this alarm stop warm threatens engulf i >>i >> i mean, pardon me if you go to spain, the south of spain in july, it's going to be hot . it's july, it's going to be hot. it's going to be very hot . i mean, i going to be very hot. i mean, i would say you're crazy . it would would say you're crazy. it would not suit me. you're denying climate change, but northern italy . italy. >> no, no, no. yeah. >>— >> no, no, no. yeah. >> what? you don't know, darling , i'm on my second , is that i'm on my second tesla. panels on tesla. i've had solar panels on the roof since 1983. i am totally into it. i read rachel carson's silent spring in 1962. as a teenager. i'm into it. what i'm concerned about is the language of all this . it's language of all this. it's designed to have everybody going, oh my god, oh my god . you going, oh my god, oh my god. you know, somewhere along the line we have to adapt to these changes. yes. we can't wish them away. so let's say , look, you away. so let's say, look, you know, go to spain in the winter, come to the peak district. not all of you in the summer, you know, come to scotland, discover other parts of our country,
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spend the money at home, and then you won't have to worry about being in queues in the airport. >> perhaps the train to encourage people to do what you've done, though perhaps it's trying people into trying to nudge people into buying and having buying electric cars and having more solar panels and everything else, every else, you know, and every newspaper does this and the bbc doesit newspaper does this and the bbc does it alarm terror, fear , does it alarm terror, fear, danger engulfing just just for goodness sake, calm down there are things you do to adapt. >> there are things you to >> there are things you do to accept there things accept change. there are things you do. i mean, you know, my car costs except costs a lot of money. except that. costs a lot of money. except that . but it costs nothing to that. but it costs nothing to run. virtually nothing to run run. or virtually nothing to run or plug in at it's or plug it in at home. it's brilliant. and we have to adapt to all these we need the to all these things. we need the infrastructure that's going infrastructure and that's going to cost a lot of money and it's going take time. but please, going to take time. but please, you behave you know, don't behave as if these aren't happening these things aren't happening and don't scare us. >> edwina's gone electric and i completely agree with you about the mongering. treat the fear mongering. don't treat us like children. yeah, but you said us. said earlier infantilizing us. let's get now to your headline heroes and back page zeros. who's smiling upon you today?
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edwina >> well, my hero is ben wallace , who i think has been an absolutely brilliant secretary of state for defence for four years under what, three prime ministers. he's been he's done an absolute zinger for ukraine. it's been super because even if we didn't have the kit, what we did was we went around the world and we found the kit and we got it to ukraine and we've been absolutely steadfast on that. it's done it's super. we've done a cracking good job, great leadership. >> i completely agree. loss >> i completely agree. a loss to politics. absolutely simon just a seconds for your headline a few seconds for your headline , hero. >> my hero is felicity mercer, the wife of johnny mercer, mp . i the wife of johnny mercer, mp. i think she's done a sterling job very gracefully, putting it where a lot of negativity on social media. >> absolutely right . good >> absolutely right. good nomination, sean your your your your front page hero. >> my front page hero is the book published last week. older and bolder written by esther rantzen. oh somebody who just been given a diagnosis of stage
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four lung cancer , but four lung cancer, but nonetheless , classic esther nonetheless, classic esther always look on the bright side of life. she comes up with. now this book, it's funny. it's a it's an a to z of how to survive . i've it's got some brilliant anecdotes in it's funny it moves you the way she talks about loss and losing people who mean a lot to you. brilliant and yet at the end of the day, as she recalls the words of the queen mum, you've got to just get on with it. >> well, she's brilliant . >> well, she's brilliant. >> well, she's brilliant. >> she's a true icon and a legend of broadcasting. what a great just a few seconds legend of broadcasting. what a grea for just a few seconds legend of broadcasting. what a grea for yourjust a few seconds legend of broadcasting. what a grea for your back few seconds legend of broadcasting. what a grea for your back page. econds legend of broadcasting. what a grea for your back page. zeross now for your back page. zeros edwina, who have got? edwina, who have you got? >> of the home >> well, most of the home office, if they can spend billions billions renting billions and billions renting hotel all of hotel rooms and all the rest of it, why they actually it, why can't they actually put some doing the asylum some staff onto doing the asylum assessments quicker than they get them processed, put edwina in charge. >> simon, a couple of seconds. your back. >> page zero. >> page zero. >> my back page zero is carol vorderman, who's been leading
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the charge against felicity mercer. i think she's been appalling in terms of using her tv personality status to attack somebody in public life. >> sean woodward, robert jenrick why ordering mickey mouse to be whitewashed over in a children's centre in kent, where they look after unaccompanied asylum seeker children? >> it's disgrace , awful and >> it's disgrace, awful and terrible and they're just for the headlines in poor taste. >> i do agree with you. listen loved my pundit tonight. thank you for your collective company. great to see all of you. please you for your collective company. great backe all of you. please you for your collective company. great back soon.>f you. please you for your collective company. great back soon. most. please come back soon. most importantly, thank you to you for i'm back on for your company. i'm back on friday dan wootton's friday at nine. dan wootton's back at and his headline is the temperature's rising boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here. your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. i hope you able to enjoy your weekend. it has been a rather blustery one for many
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of us, but as we come to the end of us, but as we come to the end of sunday, pressure is of sunday, low pressure is pushing off towards pushing its way off towards scandinavia , allowing those scandinavia, allowing those isobars out and the isobars to widen out and the winds be easing throughout winds will be easing throughout this and overnight. this evening and overnight. still, though, some showers lingering primarily across western of england and western areas of england and wales , but persistently wales, but more persistently across scotland. some across areas of scotland. some longer spells in there at times as well. elsewhere, we will see some clear intervals developing and intervals, and in those clear intervals, temperatures dropping down to around 11 or 12 c. so a touch fresher compared to some recent nights where you have those clear intervals, it means clear intervals, though it means that some sunshine. that you'll see some sunshine. first start off, the first thing to start off, the new working cloudy new working week, a cloudy affair scotland . but all of affair for scotland. but all of us will eventually see some showers developing as we head throughout . again, there throughout the day. again, there could be heavy in places particularly through central eastern england . some eastern areas of england. some thunderstorms is also thunderstorms and hail is also possible. but with the winds turning lighter compared to the weekend where you see those sunny intervals in between the showers, just that showers, it will just feel that bit as well. around bit warmer as well. highs around 20, 23 c into tuesday. our focus then turns to this low pressure centre that's going to start
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pushing its way the pushing its way in from the west. so a start west. so quite a damp start to tuesday northern ireland and tuesday for northern ireland and that rain will then its way that rain will then push its way into northern wales, northern england, of southern england, parts of southern scotland well, north scotland as well, far north of scotland as well, far north of scotland sunshine scotland, seeing sunshine and showers, south—east of showers, the far south—east of england as well staying england as well as well, staying relatively throughout. relatively dry throughout. but as towards the end of as we head towards the end of the week, sunshine showers, the week, sunshine and showers, returns by the returns once again by the temperatures rising. >> boxed suella proud sponsors of weather on .
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