is >> we believe that inaction is not an option though we must stop the boats and that this bill is a key part of our plan to do just that. the message in the means must be absolutely clear and unambiguous. if you come to the uk illegally, you won't be able to stay here. instead, you'll be detained and returned to your home country or removed to a safe third country. there is simply no point in passing legislation that does not deliver a credible deterrent and provides the means to back it up . it up. >> the prime minister wants to put an end to universities taking advantage of people with low quality courses. the government plans to impose limits on courses that have high dropout rates or a low proportion of graduates getting a professional job. well, speaking at a school in london earlier, rishi sunak said the new measures will benefit taxpayers . taxpayers. >> now, for many people, university is the right answer, and it does brilliantly. but actually there are a range of people who are being let down by

the system. the current system. they're being taken advantage of with low quality courses that don't lead that makes it lead to a job that makes it worth it leaves them financially worse off. that's what we're clamping down today. but at clamping down on today. but at the making sure that the same time, making sure that young have range of young people have a range of fantastic alternative opportunities, whether that be apprentices higher higher apprentices or higher higher technical qualifications, for example. so the key message is, look, you don't have to go to university to succeed in life. there are a range of fantastic opfions there are a range of fantastic options and what we're options and that's what we're delivering . delivering. >> drug has been hailed as >> a new drug has been hailed as a turning point for alzheimer's . donanemab has been found to slow clinical decline by up to 35, meaning that people with the disease could still go about performing day to day tasks . the performing day to day tasks. the drug is being assessed to see if it can be used in the nhs as the foreign office has issued an extreme heat warning as southern europe braces for record breaking temperatures , british breaking temperatures, british holidaymakers have been cancelling or changing their

trips abroad. that's ahead of the school holidays next week. well, meanwhile, china has recorded its hottest ever temperature at 52.2 degrees in sanbao . that's a remote town in sanbao. that's a remote town in the country's north—west tv onune the country's north—west tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. nato back to . to. nigel >> good evening. well, just over two weeks ago decided at the time had come to blow the lid off the uk banking industry . me off the uk banking industry. me because i thought they were closing people's accounts with very, very little reason or indeed often with bad reasons. and since then there have been an absolute flood of stories. remember the vicar who objected an absolute flood of stories. re his nber the vicar who objected an absolute flood of stories. re his building vicar who objected an absolute flood of stories. re his building societyho objected an absolute flood of stories. re his building society in objected to his building society in yorkshire? having the whole of the front window as a campaign sign for gay pride month? he went in, asked why they were doing it , and

went in, asked why they were doing it, and they closed his account. well, i have had hundreds of you write to me to say your accounts are being closed. some are running window cleaning firms, others are pawnbrokers and anything and everything in between. if you're involved in taking cash , the involved in taking cash, the banks don't really want you. and that , of course, banks don't really want you. and that, of course, is banks don't really want you. and that , of course, is why banks don't really want you. and that, of course, is why gb news has launched its petition. it's launched its don't kill cash campaign. and you can see on your screens a qr code. you can download it , your screens a qr code. you can download it, sign our petition over 200,000 people have done so already . you see, the trouble already. you see, the trouble is, if you take cash out of the system , um, and if everything is system, um, and if everything is digital , system, um, and if everything is digital, well at some point in time it's not beyond the realms of possibility that you could be closed down and find yourself effectively a non person unable to function and unable to live . to function and unable to live. now i mentioned last week that i'd put in something called subject access requests to the big global ratings agencies . big global ratings agencies. these are the people that have

you on their files and the banks refer to them, the banks refer to them to find out whether basically you're a credit worthy individual . well, i also put individual. well, i also put that request in to coutts bank. they had 30 days to respond and the deadline was midnight on friday and just a few hours before the deadline, i got back the data on me. it is an extraordinary force pages of information on on one np farage and his business. i can only say having looked at the content that i am shocked . much of it is that i am shocked. much of it is deeply unpleasant, highly political and very personal and not something i would have expected from an institution that i thought was there to serve its shareholders, which by the includes you because the way, includes you because rbs group, which owns natwest and coutts , is 38.6% owned by and coutts, is 38.6% owned by you and me . yes, we bailed them you and me. yes, we bailed them out when they were in trouble and now they can treat us with

contempt if they choose. i haven't really had time to go through and work out what i'm going to do with this. i've got a lot of reading to do, but a couple of little pointers by megxit mentioned over 30 megxit is mentioned over 30 times and russia is mentioned 22 times. so i think we can see exactly the direction of travel. and i will talk a lot more about this and what it means tomorrow. and by the way, don't think this is just about an farage report in the times newspaper today say that said refinitiv , one of that said refinitiv, one of those big agencies that i referred to earlier, refinitiv will be able , on behalf of the will be able, on behalf of the banks, to put in all the bank accounts and names they've got and monitor social media. just think , if you were to say think, if you were to say something on facebook that somehow did not accord with the bank's so—called values , you too bank's so—called values, you too could find yourself closed down. and if we're not careful, if we don't fight back, we're going to finish up with a chinese style social credit system. and that

is why i'm going public on this . i'm not just doing it for me. if they can come for me, believe me, they can come for you . now, me, they can come for you. now, change of gear. 25 years ago, tony blair said 50% of young people should go to university city. we all thought it sounded utterly ridiculous when i left school , i2% of people went to school, i2% of people went to university and i wouldn't for one moment say that university is an ideal for certain people who've got high academic skills or a training for certain jobs that absolutely need a degree. but the target of 50, i thought, was truly extraordinary . the odd was truly extraordinary. the odd thing is all through these years and all through this journey, the conservative party supported that blairite vision and more and more young people have gone to university , racking up debt to university, racking up debt even when interest rates were virtually zero, they were being charged 6% on their university loans. most youngsters come out

now from university with a debt of around about £50,000. now, if of around about £50,000. now, if of course, that means they're going to go off into much better paid jobs than if they'd not gone. well, i get it. it makes sense. the trouble is, in many cases don't. what rishi cases they don't. and what rishi sunak said today i thought was really , really interesting. he really, really interesting. he said too many young people are being sold a false dream and end up doing a poor quality course at the taxpayer's expense , which at the taxpayer's expense, which doesn't offer the prospect of a decent job at the end of it. and i think that's the most sensible thing. a conservative prime minister has said in the whole of the 13 years labour don't agree at all. bridget phillipson, the shadow education secretary says that the government are attacking the aspirations of young people. and yeah , it has become an yeah, it has become an aspiration for huge numbers of people to go to university, almost peer pressure to go to

university, to have three really great, great years and yet we've got a huge shortage of workers in many, many sectors that probably would pay better than going to university. and how ironic that on the very day the prime minister says about this false dream for 30% of people who go to university , how ironic who go to university, how ironic that on the very same day we've lowered the visa requirements for bricklayers, roofers and carpenters. so it was now pretty much an open door for anybody with those skills to come into the country. i'm sure mr blair will be very, very pleased because he believes in an open door. because he believes in an open door . he sees because he believes in an open door. he sees it, of because he believes in an open door . he sees it, of course, as door. he sees it, of course, as a way of getting us back into europe. but why are we not trade owning our own bricklayer workers, carpenters, plumbers, people who, once they've got the skills, can earn a very, very good living. this debate, i think , is very long overdue. let

think, is very long overdue. let me ask your thoughts. would you go to university now ? let me go to university now? let me know your thoughts. farage at gbnews.com. now i'm joined by josh freeman, policy manager at the higher education policy institute. and alfie best, chairman of wyldecrest parks , a chairman of wyldecrest parks, a mobile home park company , rather mobile home park company, rather a big one. josh josh, you know, here you are representing higher education. anne is bridget phillipson right when she says a rishi sunak's comments that it's an attack on aspiration? well first of all, thanks very much for having me on board. >> and attack on aspiration is quite strong language. it is think and let's make a couple of things clear here, because i do think it's important that , you think it's important that, you know, universities are subject to accountability, right? we spend an enormous amount of money. students spend an enormous amount of money to go to i'm a taxpayer. to university. i'm a taxpayer. and taxpayer spends and the taxpayer spends an enormous to send enormous amount of money to send them so it is important them there. so it is important that universities are held accountable . and what

accountable. and for what students do and their experiences there. that's very important. however, there are a couple of potential issues with this policy that, depending on how it is implemented, could end up being a problem. the first thing is on quality . they've thing is on quality. they've said, you know, we want to end rip off courses, but what does it to be rip off? does it it mean to be rip off? does it mean that who doesn't go mean that anyone who doesn't go on and earn high salary, all on and earn a high salary, all of those courses shouldn't be considered quality ? considered high quality? >> well, did. they gave >> well, they did. they gave some , didn't they? you some examples, didn't they? you know, surfing and know, degrees in surfing and golf course management and things that. things like that. >> sure, sure. but there's things like that. >.lot sure, sure. but there's things like that. >.lot morejre, sure. but there's things like that. >.lot more to, sure. but there's things like that. >.lot more to iture. but there's things like that. >.lot more to it than3ut there's things like that. >.lot more to it than the there's things like that. >.lot more to it than the degree a lot more to it than the degree as you go through university, you variety skills. you get whole variety of skills. right. of these sort of soft right. all of these sort of soft skills, these extra curriculars. right. all with right. we're not all born with with charisma, with your natural charisma, nigel. , we some of us nigel. you know, we some of us have to to university and we have to go to university and we have to go to university and we have to go to university and we have to learn it or have to have to learn it or we have to get from somewhere. get it from somewhere. >> well, i. >> elm- e josh, >> hang on, josh, hang on, on, on life skills i'm on that. life skills stuff. i'm going bring alfie best. going to bring in alfie best. you know, josh makes the point that people go to university. they're go, they're 18, 19. when they go, they years. and they go for three years. and josh up

josh says they pick up life skills . surely don't we pick up skills. surely don't we pick up even better life skills at the coalface of the real world? >> i think you can very easily become institutionalised in in higher education. and i don't think it's for everybody. i think it's for everybody. i think it's for people that excel at it . and when you mentioned at it. and when you mentioned like certain courses that are away into colleges and university fees such as surfing or whatever it may be, i don't know . we're being tongue in know. we're being tongue in cheek when we say that, but they are sometimes a back door course to get in where really they're not going to excel the person because they have no real trait to that forward. and i to take that forward. and i think that's what they mean by and if i can use the word so gracefully, is defunct. so this is about having the right course for the right students that are going to excel at those that are going to excel at those that are going to excel at those that are going to make a difference to their own life. and as for life study courses , well, forgive me study courses, well, forgive me for saying you learn more by walking down the daily street of

what's going on and how much a pint of milk. >> that's that's my >> well, that's that's my feeling. that's that's my feeling. that's that's my feeling. is an feeling. i mean, there is an argument, josh, some people aren't the aren't yet mature enough for the big perhaps but big outside world. perhaps but at we have to face at some point, we have to face these now, what sunak these things. now, what sunak has and this i mean, this has said and this i mean, this really is the first pushback, isn't really seen isn't it, that we've really seen what against? well, for 25 years, the narrative has been more and more and more young people must go to university. this is the first time a prime minister challenged what's this is the first time a prime mini become challenged what's this is the first time a prime mini become chal|orthodox1at's this is the first time a prime mini become chal|orthodox .it's now become that orthodox. >> see. well, i would agree with that. >> partly, i think every prime minister has always said, yes, we value university it's we value university because it's connected aspiration . right. connected to aspiration. right. and people make and i think people people make that so. that link, and very rightly so. we graduates very we know that graduates very often and earn very high often go on and earn very high salaries, can't lose salaries, but we can't lose sight that's not for sight that that's not for everyone. agree what everyone. and i agree with what you're saying is that we for many people, more vocational, many people, a more vocational, vocational alternative the vocational alternative is the right and right thing to do. and the government expanding government is also expanding these areas . as you know, degree these areas. as you know, degree apprenticeships , for example, is apprenticeships, for example, is something that we keep hearing this, is it really happening? >> i mean, if it was really i

mean, i tell you what, these guys that are skilled bricklayers, for argument's sake , money. why , they can earn real money. why do we still a shortage in do we still have a shortage in the stem subjects? you know , the stem subjects? you know, science, technology, you know, anything to do with economics, mathematic ethics. these are areas where the country has a shortage. i remember as ukip leader in 2015 suggesting actually charge any actually we didn't charge any fees for those courses . we're fees for those courses. we're still not. i mean, i keep heanng still not. i mean, i keep hearing talk about apprenticeships . we still have apprenticeships. we still have shortages. yeah, right . shortages. yeah, right. >> but i don't i don't disagree with any that. have to we with any of that. we have to we have focus on both. i think have to focus on both. i think the government has focussed somewhat education, somewhat on higher education, but important other but there's an important other aspect this too, which is aspect of this too, which is that you try and get people that when you try and get people into vocational education, we have to create an equality about it. we have to say everyone has an equal chance to get into university and everyone has an equal to get into equal chance to get into vocational education. you know, the technical, the plumbing, all of these the carpentry, all of these things. that's these things. right. that's that's everyone that's important. everyone has to an chance. but to have an equal chance. but when off courses, when you say rip off courses, we're going to allow them

we're not going to allow them anymore. we're to going we're going to we're going to shut anymore. we're to going we're going thosere going to shut anymore. we're to going we're going those are oing to shut anymore. we're to going we're going those are the to shut anymore. we're to going we're going those are the courses them. those are the courses that it's very often the working class would have class people would have taken those and very often that's those up. and very often that's taking away working class taking away from working class people opportunity people that the opportunity to have university in the have gone to university in the first place. so we have to be very careful when we say we're going to get rid of rip off courses because there's an opportunity for that. >> i'm very >> alfie one thing i'm very interested germany , we, interested in in germany, we, you a kid 17 says, you know, a kid aged 17 says, i want become a carpenter, a want to become a carpenter, a plumber. >> they out the champagne. >> they get out the champagne. fantastic. know , the boy or fantastic. you know, the boy or girl have made mind up girl have made their mind up what to do. oh, these what they want to do. oh, these are respectable jobs to are great, respectable jobs to do country young people are great, respectable jobs to do they country young people are great, respectable jobs to do they want1try young people are great, respectable jobs to do they want tor young people are great, respectable jobs to do they want tor tthat] people are great, respectable jobs to do they want tor tthat .people are great, respectable jobs to do they want tor tthat . we'rez say they want to do that. we're sort of snobby about all this, aren't i think it's frowned upon. >> @ seen w— @ seen like when you >> and it's seen like when you use the word bricklayers, carpenter, plumbers. yeah, that that's a skilled , laboured job that's a skilled, laboured job that's a skilled, laboured job that creates it's a great life. and created some fantastic businesses for entrepreneurs and businesses for entrepreneurs and business people . and also given business people. and also given people a great life as employees , as i know, plumbers that earn

phenomenal amounts of salaries in what they do to the tune of like £200,000 a year as a salary. yeah now it's frowned upon because it's not seen as higher education. and i'm sorry , i think when we use these types of words of higher education, we're putting people down without a really knowing it is out. >> right? i think this is unfair. >> i think that this is unfair actually. i think the vast majority of higher education courses do provide excellent value think that is value for money. i think that is one reason why many, many people see and go see them as an aspiration and go on continue to take them in on and continue to take them in very, very large numbers. and it's but it's not for everyone, but that's reason to attack that's not a reason to attack them. reason to do we them. that's a reason to do we look, do at alfie's look, do we look at alfie's point? look, do we look at alfie's poiiis’ look, do we look at alfie's p0li|s kind of we look down upon >> is kind of we look down upon people who've got these skills, such as bricklayers. he's right, isn't he? >> i think possibly, yeah, >> i think it possibly, yeah, very possibly. interesting >> is interesting. now >> now, that is interesting. now a final thought a thought on this final thought on , whether mr blair's plan on this, whether mr blair's plan back in 97 was is that millions of youngsters would be

effectively sent to madrassa of marxism and come out all as extremely left wing not understanding what critical thinking was anymore. i mean there is a big political dimension to this. if you look at the political attitudes of the university towns and of young graduate course, they view the world differently from the world very differently from the rest of us. >> well, i went to the london school economics and everyone >> well, i went to the london schoc goeseconomics and everyone >> well, i went to the london schocgoesecortonics and everyone >> well, i went to the london schoc goesecorto be; and everyone >> well, i went to the london schoc goesecorto be and everyone there goes on to be an investment there goes on to be an inv

to but they learn to each other, but they learn those skills. they those critical skills. they learn abilities long as learn those abilities as long as they do. >> em- em— >> because i get a lot of students tell me if i speak up dunng students tell me if i speak up during the lecture and give a different opinion, everyone screams at me. >> that that's >> well, i hope that that's changing. well i hope it is, too. >> now, for you said earlier that people can become institutionalised . i institutionalised. and i honestly whether we're honestly wonder whether we're not some the not brainwashing some of the left universities are not left wing universities are not brainwashing. our kids. brainwashing. some of our kids. >> they're strong words >> i think they're strong words to honest. but i do think to be honest. but i do think that people are put into a into a classroom . everybody's taught a classroom. everybody's taught exactly the same thing as if they were the same person in and they're not different people for different roads , for different different roads, for different traits, for different skill sets. you know, that's why we all excel at different sports education is no different when you employ people, what are you looking for? determination and commitment. i'd rather have somebody commitment will outweigh talent in every shape of the way i'd rather have somebody that gives 110, then a

skilled person who will give 80 interest eating gentleman , thank interest eating gentleman, thank you very much indeed. >> and this, folks, is a very, very important debate i felt for much of the last 20 years that i was a voice in the wilderness arguing was arguing this target was ludicrous. but now the prime minister has really got something right. yes, i've just said it. he's really got something right. and i'm pleased to be able say that. now, in to be able to say that. now, in a moment after the break, we will show you the tracker as the bibby stockholm. the barge makes its from falmouth across its way from falmouth across aukus to portland , where it's aukus to portland, where it's going to dock. 500 young men who were migrant will be on that barge and they will have access to doctors and dentists and day trips on coaches to the sites of dorset. they'll will also be to free wander around the town of weymouth during the height of houday weymouth during the height of holiday season . it's got all, i holiday season. it's got all, i think, the ingredients are becoming quite around .

news radio. i asked you, would you go to university now? >> allison said i'd bring back apprenticeships . they were far apprenticeships. they were far better than a university education. well, we keep hearing about apprenticeships, but they're not. as you and i would understand them. now, robert makes a point, but it's a very, very much a generational point. i school in 1975 and don't i left school in 1975 and don't know anyone who went to university. we got jobs at 17 and now mostly retired with a work pension. yep robert that is absolutely true . however, work absolutely true. however, work pensions in those days tended to be two thirds final salary dodi and that is something young people today simply cannot not even dream of. and janet says,

no, it's not for everyone. terrible lack of practical educational opportunities and trades have become devalued in the minds of the young . yeah, the minds of the young. yeah, janet, you're right. you know , janet, you're right. you know, even even becoming a nurse, which was something decades ago that people aspired to suddenly they just don't seem to now , they just don't seem to now, mark white gb news is home and security editor, has gone hotfoot to dorset , out to hotfoot to dorset, out to portland in particular, because we are expecting the barge . now we are expecting the barge. now if you look at this map, you can see falmouth and the flashing light. that is where the bibby stockholm is right now. now she's about to sail and she'll sail to portland. i think it's about 85 to 90 miles and if she leaves now, well, she's going to arrive at four, 430 tomorrow morning. something like that. so somebody who's going to get a very short night in bed because

he wants to be there to greet the bibby stockholm is, of course, mark white. mark the anticipated arrival sort of dawn tomorrow. yeah >> yeah. i mean, potentially . >> yeah. i mean, potentially. really? there's talk of her coming in overnight under the cover of darkness. i'm not sure whether the home office actually want to come in under the cover of darkness or whether they're quite happy for this barge to come in in daylight because they do want to show that they're taking action to try to combat the overreliance on hotel rooms. now according to that live tracker , that marine tracker , tracker, that marine tracker, she's doing some good speed. i think it was about eight knots. i think she's being assisted by the wind, clearly being towed by a tug . and i think from last a tug. and i think from last seen on that marine tracking match up, i think she was just

passing or heading, not too far from torquay. so she is making good progress . so unlikely that good progress. so unlikely that she would be off portland in the early hours of this morning. so let's let's see whether they try and get in at night or not. but regardless, there will be local people here. nigel in the morning protesting outside the front gates to portland harbour because they're determined, even though this barge is arriving , though this barge is arriving, they say, you know, the fight is not over. they're going to continue to press home the message that this is completely unsuitable, that this barge with 500 men in this area and this tourist town of weymouth next, of course, to the isle of portland, as well, is just not the ideal place to have 500 men who will be perfectly free to

leave of that barge, not just be perfectly free. there will be free bus services that will run them into local towns around the isle of portland and onto weymouth and other locations as well. >> nigel yeah, and this is of course it's happening as we approach the peak of the holiday season for the rest of all the schools breaking up during the course of this week. and you course of this week. and as you say, know , very, very, very say, you know, very, very, very important summer season for important that summer season for somewhere like weymouth . that somewhere like weymouth. that absolutely when they to absolutely is when they have to make we'll make their money. well, we'll see impact of that is. see what the impact of that is. but talking about economics , but talking about economics, yes. so hotels are very yes. so the hotels are very expensive, 6 to £7 million a day. government seeking alternatives, judicial reviews , alternatives, judicial reviews, of course, over former raf bases. but when it comes to the barge , how cheap is that . barge, how cheap is that. >> well, it's going to be, from what we understand about £20,000 a day for this barge and

associated facilities . but of associated facilities. but of course, we've also got the issue of . the health facilities , of. the health facilities, dental facilities , extra money dental facilities, extra money for policing. i think there is £2 million being made available all to dorset council as well to help with additional policing . help with additional policing. and all the sort of the facilities and amenities that are required to be piped in to this barge as well. and as you see, as i was saying before, the bus services going into the likes of weymouth , i mean, i likes of weymouth, i mean, i think in terms of the sort of concern that there is in the community, it's understandable in a way when we talk about resort hotels, that of course caused a lot of concern that are causing a lot of concern right up and down the country . you up and down the country. you might be talking about 150 or so, maybe 200in the bigger hotels , but this is 500

hotels, but this is 500 individual cars. this is a real test for nigel of this new policy that the government is trying to adopt of big either purpose built or specially adapted accommodation centres that are a bit more austere and not as plush as some of the hotels hotels, but but it's more people . if you've got 500, not people. if you've got 500, not just 150, but 500 young men free to head into weymouth at the height of tourist season board. i mean , not necessarily with i mean, not necessarily with lots of money to spend. you can understand why people around here might be a little concerned i >>i 5mm >> i certainly do, mark, and we'll come back to you tomorrow and see how these things pan out. mark white from portland, thank you much indeed . and thank you very much indeed. and yeah, mark's right. it will take 500 people more than a hotel that takes 150 to 200. but on a busy day, over 500 comes. so rishi, you better go out and try and find a load more barges. and

for my money, i would have thought 500 young men cooped up in an environment like that once they get out. i would have thought was a recipe for trouble. we'll see. perhaps i'll be proved wrong in a moment. the boss of john lewis says says that now shoplifters is frankly have a licence s to go about their business as the gangs begin , it seems to behave with begin, it seems to behave with impunity . we'll discuss in impunity. we'll discuss in a moment what can actually be done

radio. we >> well, the john lewis boss, sharon white, has said criminals have a licence to shoplift . now, have a licence to shoplift. now, she's not referring to people surreptitiously popping something into their handbag . something into their handbag. yes, that is a part of the problem. and it's always been a part of the problem for stores

and shops of all kind . and there and shops of all kind. and there are some that will say, of course , with hard times, you're course, with hard times, you're more likely to see an increase in shoplifting. but no, what she's really referring to is a different phenomenon. it is gangs as gangs of young , gangs as gangs of young, predominantly, not solely , but predominantly, not solely, but predominantly, not solely, but predominantly young males going into stores with the absolute intent before they walk through the door to pilfer on a large scale from the place and what do you do know? 1 or 2 store detectives, a dozen young men rampaging through a store and not much you can do. you can call the police. the police come. they'll be there. 15, 20 minutes later. the odd person will caught, but not very will get caught, but not very many people will get caught. i think it's part of increasing lawlessness in our society. well, maybe i'm taking an old fashioned view , but i've heard fashioned view, but i've heard of incidents of this all over the country . a gang of youths the country. a gang of youths going in store , selling, walking going in store, selling, walking out and nothing really gets

done. but can the police respond? are there enough police to respond? it's not an easy one. well, stephen roberts is a former deputy assistant commissioner of the metropolia police. and stephen, good evening. welcome back to the program . he's going to come any program. he's going to come any moment now, i hope. yes, i've got him. stephen shoplifting. it's always been there, you know, kleptomaniac , acas and know, kleptomaniac, acas and people with all sorts of problems were known to shoplift . and of course, back when we were young , you know, woolworths were young, you know, woolworths , you know, pick and mix and people used to put a sweet in their pockets. and we know about these things. but sharon white is talking, you know, about gangs going in and ransacking stores and doing so in a threatening and violent manner , threatening and violent manner, almost impossible , i would say, almost impossible, i would say, for store police to deal with that. isn't it ? that. isn't it? >> it's certainly very difficult . i mean, you say shoplifting has always gone on and indeed it

has always gone on and indeed it has . and particularly in the big has. and particularly in the big stores , the john lewis , the stores, the john lewis, the woolworths in the good old days . and in fact , laying out stock . and in fact, laying out stock in these large department stores , it was part of the business model . there was , it was part of the business model. there was an , it was part of the business model . there was an acceptance model. there was an acceptance that some of it would get stolen , but i'm afraid this sort of organised, rampaging shoplifter , it is a relatively new phenomenon . it's not completely phenomenon. it's not completely new. i remember it happening occasionally in the big oxford street stores back in the late 70s and early 80s. street stores back in the late 70s and early 80s . um, it's very 70s and early 80s. um, it's very difficult , but stores can put on difficult, but stores can put on extra security staff and indeed in many of the big shopping centres and places like oxford street, there are dedicated police units that can get there pretty quickly , quickly enough pretty quickly, quickly enough sometimes to deal with this before it really gets going. but in the longer term, what we're looking at is a proper

intelligence led approach. stores have cameras , is the stores have cameras, is the people involved can be identified and eventually and whole gangs can be swept up and in some cases, even the stock recovered . so it's not hopeless recovered. so it's not hopeless . and no, it's an exaggeration to say that there's a sort of licenced shoplifting because of the inadequacies of the police service. i'm afraid . service. i'm afraid. >> okay. no, but that's a very strong retort to sharon white. now, tell me, stephen, so let's just say a gang has been ransacking a store in one of the out—of—town malls or oxford street or whatever it may be. what would actually happen to them when they're caught ? them when they're caught? >> they'd be taken in front of the magistrates court if they are under if they are 17 or undenit are under if they are 17 or under, it will be a juvenile court. um obviously if they're older then then we'd be looking at an adult court and possibly taken to crown court and, and there's a real difference between in the way that people might be sentence out for shoplifting the, you know, the single act of stealing a pound

of cheese or whatever. yeah. and this sort of organised rampage, this sort of organised rampage, this sort of organised rampage, this sort of organised rampage is organised crime and is treated as such and there's prison sentences at the end coming at the end of a court case. >> well, i hope so. >> well, i hope so. >> now just stop. oil have been incredibly active blocking the streets of london today. there have been 21 arrests, but my concern, stephen, is this is reaching a whole new levels over the weekend in ibiza, we saw a private a £10 million private jet that was sprayed , painted jet that was sprayed, painted and vandalised. and this was done by a group called vegetable future . yes. yes we have we now future. yes. yes we have we now have vegan gangs who take it upon themselves to spray paint people's private jets and not just that , but we've also in just that, but we've also in ibiza as well . i've seen a

ibiza as well. i've seen a superyacht cowes, a super yacht , and that's been spray painted and vandalised by people who i don't know whether they think they are saving the world or not. but what is clear, steven, is that the activists, the climate activists , it's and climate activists, it's and whether they be vegans or just stop oilers or whatever it is they are moving to new far more aggressive tactics and they're actually beginning to pinpoint rich individuals. what on earth do we do in the face of that problem ? problem? >> um, again, we're talking about an intelligence led approach to this sort of thing. i mean, there's a long and indeed honourable history of non—violent political protest, non—violent political protest, non—violent resistance to political moves. and that's something that i think we should be tolerating and indeed honouring. it's part of our history . it's how our history. it's how our constitution came to be, what it is. yeah, but this sort of

wanton damage, if anything, i think it loses sympathy for a lot of the causes that people purport to be support ing, but over the longer term and the intelligence led approach identifying the people involved because this this these things are always about a network of people who are prepared to go out and do damage and cause harm and delay and they are guilty of straightforward offences and can be taken in front of the court. we shouldn't be treating them legally in a different way. they are simply criminals. whatever their motivation, they're criminals . they need to be criminals. they need to be treated in the same way as other criminals who do wanton damage like stephen roberts, as ever, the voice of common sense policing with, i think, a note of optimism that things sometimes are not quite as bad as the headlines in the morning suggest. >> stephen, thank you very much indeed. >> stephen, thank you very much indeed . and now i wonder for all indeed. and now i wonder for all of those people out there, disrupt shouting, protesting ,

disrupt shouting, protesting, throwing orange powder on courts at wimbledon or attempting to stop the test match at lord's or whatever else it may be, i wonder whether they might have a think about solar panels because it is my what the farage moment of the day. there's a huge row going on because 45% of the world's polysilicon without which you cannot make solar panels , is produced in a certain panels, is produced in a certain chinese province called xinjiang . and that, of course, is where the uyghurs live. and the evidence is mounting . and the evidence is mounting. and the evidence is mounting. and the evidence is mounting. and the evidence is clear that much of the work that is done to produce solar panels, which now go into our rural countries side, where we could actually be growing , we could actually be growing, the stuff is produced by the uyghurs under literally slave laboun uyghurs under literally slave labour, canadian asians. but it seems that in the war on climate change, absolutely anything is permitted . and but what will be permitted. and but what will be unsettling a few people, especially those who've either arrived in southern europe or

heading off on their holidays there soon are record temperatures and not just there. it's happening in much of america and china too. in a moment. yep, we'll talk about the weather .

well, right now, it is not the favourite pub conversation of the british weather people are talking about. no, they're talking about. no, they're talking about. no, they're talking about the weather. they're about experience or they're about to experience or friends and family of theirs are already . we can show you already. we now can show you pictures the vatican pictures of the vatican where it's been 38 degrees. it's expected to get up into the early 40s tomorrow. so but that is as nothing compared to some of the temperatures that are expected this week. and we're thinking about what's going to happenin thinking about what's going to happen in much of america. 25% of america facing possible

record temperatures, the same can be said of parts of china , can be said of parts of china, too, and southern europe, where huge numbers of brits are heading over the course of the next few weeks. well we're talking about temperatures. i mean, actually pretty unbearable, beastly temperatures. jim dale, senior meteorologist at british weather service , says how extreme is the service, says how extreme is the mediterranean going to be? millions of brits heading in that direction ? that direction? >> well, it's not the usual, let me put it that way. this is very unusual. me put it that way. this is very unusual . all holiday makers go unusual. all holiday makers go in that direction for obvious reasons, want the sun and they want the blue sky. they want they want that sort of feeling that they're not getting what they're getting here at this moment in time. in the uk, in ireland and places like that. so that's where they head. but the temperatures at the moment in those the world those parts of the world are 5 to 10. sometimes 15 degrees. and this . it's not this is sustained. it's not a single and it's a way this single day and it's a way this is sustained. and even looking forward, it's got longevity. yet another 2 or 3 weeks of it. so it's going nowhere fast.

>> and up in the high 40s, in parts of southern europe. >> yeah, potentially so we're looking at records . i >> yeah, potentially so we're looking at records. i think >> yeah, potentially so we're looking at records . i think the looking at records. i think the record is in, where is it, sardinia , one of those places in sardinia, one of those places in and around . then i think it will and around. then i think it will be the mid 40s that we see. but you've already mentioned 1 or 2 other places in the world and we had two days last year, a monday and a tuesday in july last year that were exceptionally hot. >> yeah, other than that, the summer wasn't particularly, was it? it crept up on us. >> did . i mean, it? it crept up on us. >> did. i mean, this >> it really did. i mean, this is if you like, the second exceptional summer. not for the uk. we're kind of floating off into the atlantic somewhere, but that's it is. but for that's the way it is. but for other parts, for europe, for i mentioned america, china , north mentioned america, china, north africa. the point is about all of this is, is yes , any place of this is, is yes, any place can get exceptional temperatures. any place can get record temperatures that can happen on its own. but what you've got the exercise that meteorologists, climatologists particularly do is they join the dots. what they is they look dots. what they do is they look around globe, what's

around the globe, see what's happening where these happening and see where these records are are being made. and the height they're actually getting to . and once you do that getting to. and once you do that andifs getting to. and once you do that and it's all happening at once, that's time when your ears that's the time when your ears prick up a little bit. you know something's going that is something's going off that is not usual. and the big catalyst in all this is sea in all of this is sea temperatures. ocean temperatures, they have been really exceptional. yeah. and we are governed by the oceans. make it absolutely clear it's not so much land that governs much the land that governs the weather oceans. and we weather, it's the oceans. and we got nino that's coming got an el nino that's coming into fruition . and it's into into fruition. and it's still not at its strongest . i'm still not at its strongest. i'm fearing what's going to happen next it it next year, 2024, if it it materialises as to be a very strong el nino. if it does , strong el nino. if it does, those temperatures that we're talking about now , say, between talking about now, say, between 40 and in china , 52, they're 40 and in china, 52, they're going to be surpassed again. and make this absolutely clear because i know a lot of people listen to this program and i've been there. i've done that. i'm okay with that. but actually , at okay with that. but actually, at 40 degrees, the body starts to break down. it literally does in

terms of the organs and how you might feel . it's a bit like might feel. it's a bit like being drunk if you like, you know, you've had too much of this and it starts to affect your brain. so you go from 40 to 45, 50 go back a little 45, then to 50 go back a little bit , go to last year. you bit, go to last year. you mentioned year the mentioned last year the barcelona, one the barcelona barcelona, one of the barcelona health institutes . it took health institutes. it took them about year do . it came about a year to do. it came out and that the deaths and said that the deaths associated with the heat wave in last year were about around about the 60,000 mark. so this is a very serious problem . and is a very serious problem. and it doesn't just affect the person, it also affects crops , person, it also affects crops, ecosystems, if you like. we had a we had a problem going back in the wintertime when we had a little bit of snow in morocco, if you remember. and ad people, people said at the time, is it the weather or is it brexit? is it one other? do you it one or the other? do you recall ? and there was a bit of recall? and there was a bit of an argument going on. it was a bit of weather down there, but maybe it is. that's why we haven't fruit. haven't got any fruit. but i mean, you for mean, jim, you know, for millions years the earth has millions of years the earth has heated up and it's cooled down.

>> a raging as to >> there's a raging debate as to what impact has been what man's impact has been on this going to this. but i'm not going to debate that now . but we debate that right now. but we are we are . you know, even are where we are. you know, even if we stopped all co2 emissions. yeah, you're if we did, yeah, you're right. if we did, yeah, we are where we are for whatever. i mean, i've always looked at it only 3% of carbon dioxide is made, but don't dioxide is made, but i don't want argue that with want to argue about that with you here and now. i know you believe man causing believe that man is causing climate and that's fine and that's but what on earth that's fine. but what on earth do how do we adapt to do we do? how do we adapt to this? assume this this? let let's assume this is not freak. let's assume just not a freak. let's assume just for the sake of argument, that we to going have extreme, we are to going have extreme, hotter summers. what we hotter summers. what do we do? >> well, first thing is to >> well, the first thing is to is think in that direction. is to think in that direction. you the better you don't think for the better necessarily. want to be necessarily. i don't want to be negative you for negative here, but you think for the make the the worst and you make the plans. makes sense. are plans. if that makes sense. are we doing that? i don't think we're doing it fast enough. and to frank you, we should to be frank with you, we should have it 30 years ago, 40 have done it 30 years ago, 40 years the when these years ago, when the when these warnings first out warnings were first put out by eminent scientists at that time. and it is a long time ago. and it it it is a long time ago. but all this but even so, all of this has sort up on us. and

sort of crept up on us. and we've been seeing annually global say in the global temperatures, say in the last 20 years, you can probably say around 15 those have been say around 15 of those have been globally the hottest. it's globally the hottest. so it's not it's not been on the not that it's not been on the map, been on the map. so map, it's been on the map. so what do we do? well look, if it's caused by fossil fuels, which believe it is in the which i believe it is in the main, the main , then that's main, in the main, then that's the main route of concern. that's what there's going to be cut away. why the green cut away. that's why the green energy revolution has got to take hold faster rate. >> but jim, there are 1.4 billion indians, 1.3 billion chinese. you know, the chinese have been building 80 new mega giant coal fired power stations every year. they're not going to stop, are they? >> that's reached a peak. >> that's reached a peak. >> also also heard that before also what's yeah , well, maybe also what's yeah, well, maybe but also what's reached the peak in is there solar power in in china is there solar power in other words that they are now getting to a point by which they can actually provide the energy to the all homes in china? to the all the homes in china? >> so, look, i've said this on on this station before . it on this station before. it should have been a revolution.

it cannot be. it's got to be an evolution. and we're going to now face the circumstance . can now face the circumstance. can we afford it? are we talking britain? yeah, i think it's a case of not affording it. if we don't do it, we're going to be in trouble. >> but even if we do it, deloitte, if even let's say we do all of these things and we massively bills and massively put up our bills and national not national debt, not not necessarily well, well again , necessarily well, well again, but if china, indonesia , you but if china, indonesia, you know, in india don't act, it'll make no difference anyway . make no difference anyway. >> but they are acting and what was the ipcc was about was about i think it's about 169 nations coming together saying this is we got to they all sign that even the united states . i know, even the united states. i know, i know they did. that happened. but they didn't mean it. no. well meaning it and doing it, i think certain countries are doing extremely well. some doing it extremely well. some of the scandinavian countries. but look , you we're coming look, you know, we're coming back bare facts here. and back to bare facts here. and thatis back to bare facts here. and that is that what we started with. to be a real with. it's going to be a real problem going forward for health, for agriculture, for

other things. so we've got to go in that direction. >> we hear you very clearly. thank thank you very much thank you. thank you very much indeed. i've got a quick farage the ernest at. the farage from ernest at. >> hello, nigel, it's ernest here. and i just wondered why why ukip had the at the other main party is panicking . main party is panicking. couldn't they sort out their differences . ukip let them off differences. ukip let them off the hook and leave it. leave supporters with little hope of getting brexit done as they wanted. thank you . wanted. thank you. >> well , wanted. thank you. >> well, ernest, you can say ukip let them off the hook and maybe we did, but i think the point was we just reached a juncture where we had to get brexit over the line. sadly we trusted the conservatives to do it very few in the conservative party actually believed in it, which why been which is why it's not been properly delivered, which is sad, at least constitutionally . sad, at least constitutionally. we did get it over the line. now jacob recess this week . recess jacob recess this week. recess this week. when is that? wednesday or thursday . thursday.

wednesday or thursday. thursday. thursday. by elections as well. >> elections. what are they, >> by elections. what are they, somewhere somerset? somewhere in somerset? >> there is one next door >> well, there is one next door to me. >> yes. >> yes, yes. >>- >> yes, yes. >> what have got tonight? quickly? >> have got tonight? >> what have we got tonight? we're doing an we're going to be doing an inheritance tax. fascinating poll saturday poll in the times on saturday saying many, many people saying that many, many people expect than who expect to pay the tax than who do. a sort of aspirational do. it's a sort of aspirational tax that positive tax that if you're positive about you you'll about yourself, you think you'll be it's a bad tax be caught and it's a bad tax economically it damages economically, it damages the allocation of capital. >> and i saw the headlines for the 150th time in my life. the conservatives are pondering, we must it. we must. no, no, it must do it. we must. no, no, it won't happen. of course it won't happen. >> not a manifesto commitment. we do it. we need to do it. >> never does. >> it never does. >> it never does. >> kinnock before >> neil kinnock before now following . let's have following jim dale. let's have a look at the all important weather. >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. today's showers ease overnight clear and cool conditions for many, but

more rain in places by dawn. that rain arriving from the west. a small frontal system in a slack area of low pressure ahead of it, actually a ridge of high pressure helping to kill off monday's showers in many places, clear spells widely across england, wales and scotland overnight, just a few showers continuing for the north of scotland. a different story for as well as for northern ireland as well as eventually of wales and eventually parts of wales and towards the south—west here, clouds thicken 12 or 13 celsius by dawn , but towards the north by dawn, but towards the north and the east sheltered spots getting off to a cool start eight nine celsius in 1 or 2 places, as well as plenty of sunshine. we'll keep the sunny skies for northern scotland as well as the south and south—east of england during the morning in between a lot of cloud outbreaks of rain . that rain pushing north of rain. that rain pushing north into central scotland, affecting much of northern england, wales and eventually the far south—west the rain most persistent across parts of northern ireland and under the wet weather, it's going to feel on the cool side. now all of that pulls away wednesday

that pulls away during wednesday morning. keep a cloudy morning. we keep a cloudy swathe, i think through northern england the midlands parts england into the midlands parts of wales and east anglia. showery rain through much the showery rain through much of the day elsewhere , a mixture day here, elsewhere, a mixture of spells and showers, dry of sunny spells and showers, dry towards the south—west. but we'll the showery we'll keep the showery conditions thursday and conditions on thursday and friday all the while it is friday and all the while it is going a bit cooler , the going to turn a bit cooler, the temperatures rising , a boxt temperatures rising, a boxt solar proud

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