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down over the lords of back down over the illegal migration bill which is something i know lot of something that i know a lot of our wonderful and our wonderful viewers and listeners hold their listeners hold dear to their hearts. discussing hearts. i'll be discussing importantly what happens now. are legal hurdles are there any more legal hurdles this got to get through? willa flight taking flight to rwanda ever be taking off? be discussing all off? so we'll be discussing all off? so we'll be discussing all of that. and yes, this story as well. apparently dwarves well. well, apparently dwarves are now losing film roles. is this kind of peak woke just eating itself alive? patrick christys . gb news. yes. we're christys. gb news. yes. we're also going to be discussing the local opposition anyway to guangxi large scale mosque opening up at a bustling iconic tourist attraction in london. gb views gbnews.com. lots to go out, but right now is your headunes. headlines. >> patrick thank you very much. and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. the
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bbc's director general says he has asked for a quick look at what is red flag to ensure consistency during the period by which the review is carried out into the handling of allegations made against huw edwards, the house of lords committee asked the corporation why it didn't take allegations against its most highly paid news presenter. more seriously sooner. it follows the allegations by the sun that mr edwards paid a young person for explicit images while mr davie says the investigation could take a while to reach a conclusion on. >> it's difficult to give you a precise time on that. the reason is because you have to go through that diligently , assess through that diligently, assess the information. there's also duty of care concerns within that. so on that one, specifically, because i'm not in control of all the variables that could take weeks or it could take a couple of months, depending on or even longer, depending on or even longer, depending on or even longer, depending on what we get and managing the individuals involved flawlessly . and i and involved flawlessly. and i and l, involved flawlessly. and i and i, my main priority is, to be fair , make sure we get all the
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fair, make sure we get all the information into that process and act judiciously. >> the home office says the first asylum seekers will be moved to the bibby stockholm migrant barge next week. the bibby stockholm will be used to house single male asylum seekers. it's part of the government's plan to reduce the cost of housing those seeking asylum. residents are asylum. but residents are calling for the barge to be housed elsewhere. the secretary for energy security and net zero grant shapps says the key priority is to control uk borders . borders. >> it is incredibly important that government has control over who comes to the country. last night we passed a milestone by finally defeating labour, both in the house of commons and the house of lords who have voted dozens and dozens of times against a bill designed to stop the small boats . we are trying the small boats. we are trying to make sure that we can control our borders and that is the difference between a conservative government who want to borders and to control our borders and a labour government who simply have . the home
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have no answer. the home secretary says the risk of a terror attack in the uk is rising. >> speaking in westminster , >> speaking in westminster, suella braverman has identified islamic terrorism as the primary uk domestic threat , and ms uk domestic threat, and ms braverman also confirmed northern ireland related terrorism remains a significant threat , with some terrorism remains a significant threat, with some dissident groups continuing to carry out attacks. the home secretary also warned of russia , iran and warned of russia, iran and china, referring to russia as the most pressing national security concern . security concern. >> terrorist attacks are becoming increasingly unpredictable , all making them unpredictable, all making them harder to detect and investigate i >> -- >> today, unlike in previous years, terrorist movements are increasingly fragmented and disparate, and there are emerging threats from the extreme right and from abroad . extreme right and from abroad. >> despite the prevalence of lower sophistication attacks in the uk, the threat today is more diverse and dynamic and complex i >> consequently , we judge that
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>> consequently, we judge that the risk from terrorism is rising . rising. >> former manchester united footballer ryan giggs says he's relieved at being cleared of domestic violence allegations after the charges were dropped . after the charges were dropped. the 49 year old was due to stand trial for a second time, accused of controlling or coercive behaviour towards his ex—girlfriend between 2017 and 2020. but lawyers withdrew the prosecution earlier today. he denies the offences and the previous trial ended last august when the jury failed to reach any verdicts . a us national has any verdicts. a us national has crossed the inter—korean border and is being held in the north. according to the un, the person is a us soldier, according to two us officials , the us two us officials, the us national was taking part in a tour of the joint security area when they crossed the military. demarcate line separating south and north korea into the north. countries in europe continue to sweat through extreme heatwaves. british holiday destinations like spain, italy , greece and
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like spain, italy, greece and parts of the balkans are being hit with extreme heat and forest fires are been occurring in many parts of europe as they struggle with the hot weather. planes and helicopters are being used in an attempt to fight a wildfire near athens. in greece, the greek prime minister is cutting short his trip to brussels due to the ongoing fires . a solution to the ongoing fires. a solution to the 2026 commonwealth games being held in australia can be found and the idea of the uk hosting the games is premature. that's according to number 10. this comes after the victorian state government's decided to withdraw as host of the games. the reason for the australian state's withdrawal financial reasons, it would cost them more than £3 billion, which is 50% more than expected and this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now patrick is back to you .
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you. >> aslef there's a huge amount on the agenda today, but i'm going in with this. on the agenda today, but i'm going in with this . our going in with this. our politicians are addicted to cheap foreign labour. they are absolutely addicted to it. they are pumping it into this nation's veins like a class, a drug, and it's british workers who get sick off it. visa rules for bricklayers and masons, roofers, roof tilers and slaters, carpenters , joiners and slaters, carpenters, joiners and plasterers are to be ease. they say it's to cope with labour shortages. well firstly we had net migration of around 606,000 last year, so what jobs are all those people doing then ? people those people doing then? people wheel out the old trope don't they? of british workers are too lazy. they don't want to do those jobs. i think that's rubbish. these rules making it easier for people to come here and work in manual labourjobs mean that employers can pay them. just 80% of going market rate in some cases. for people like senior care workers,
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employers can pay them just £14,880 a year. it's £15,120 for lab technicians . so the reality lab technicians. so the reality is that british workers aren't lazy . they just don't want to lazy. they just don't want to work for an absolute pittance, which when you look at some of the salaries, there, i think in that context, that is absolutely fair enough. and employers can save themselves 20% of their wage bill by getting someone from abroad to do the job. so there is no incentive to train or employ british workers. but i think there's something more sinister going on here. and i think that our former chancellor, philip hammond, let the of the few the cat out of the bag a few weeks ago when he said that one way bring down inflation is way to bring down inflation is to low skilled to allow more low skilled immigration. to allow more low skilled immigration . well, just 15 days immigration. well, just 15 days ago, on the 3rd of july, a group of tory mps came up with a load of tory mps came up with a load of policies to reduce net migration, and they said that pubuc migration, and they said that public would be shattered public trust would be shattered if government didn't do it . if the government didn't do it. well, 15 days later, we're easing visa restrictions. it's the opposite, isn't it? now
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number 10 denied that the move contradicted government attempts to cut immigration . but how can to cut immigration. but how can that be true ? no, it can't. can that be true? no, it can't. can it? just look at this now. okay, so look at what i've got in my hand. it's a phone. okay. you can all see that . okay. i am not can all see that. okay. i am not holding a phone. i am not holding a phone. i am not holding a phone . and i am not holding a phone. and i am not holding a phone. and i am not holding a phone. do you believe me? even though you can see it happening? no of course you don't. but unfortunately , people don't. but unfortunately, people suffering from addiction will lie , lie and lie again to get lie, lie and lie again to get what they want. and our government is addicted to cheap foreign labour. undercut british workers and using that as a tool to bring down inflation . in to bring down inflation. in well, i want to hear from you on this gb views gbnews.com tom harwood joins me now, our deputy political editor. harwood joins me now, our deputy political editor . tom, political editor. tom, realistically, why are we doing this? >> the government believes that there are labour shortages , there are labour shortages, particularly in the areas of
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construction . you listed some of construction. you listed some of those jobs that are having that are being put onto these skills shortage lists. its shortage occupation lists. its interesting bricklayers, masons and roofers, roof tilers, slaters, carpet enters joiners, plasterers, it's all construction. it's all to do with building things. and the government believes that there aren't enough people current trained in the united kingdom to fill what may well be the demand . of course, we're not building the number of homes that the government wants to build every yeah government wants to build every year. building year. we're not building infrastructure fast enough, ostensibly that's the ostensibly that that's the reason why they want to lower that that threshold, bring those jobs into the shortage occupation list. but what they say at the same time is that this is a temporary measure that's how they're describing it, because they do, in their words, want to train more brits to do these things . but as to do these things. but as things stand right now , they things stand right now, they would say we don't have people who are trained in large enough numbers. >> we're never going to if we keep incentivising employers to employ cheap foreign labour.
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>> that's a that's a legitimate criticism. and of course , there criticism. and of course, there are lots of questions that can be levelled at government in terms of , sure, there's be levelled at government in terms of, sure, there's funding for apprenticeships and all the rest of it, and that's what they would argue is the way to do this. but ultimately, where is the live for british the incentive live for british companies to then hire more british people? although there is a strong argument as well in an inflationary environment , the an inflationary environment, the cost of these things have all gone up . what philip hammond gone up. what philip hammond said isn't technically untrue. >> no, it's not untrue. it's just the fact that it flies in the face of this idea. you want it to, to reduce net migration to the tens thousands or to the tens of thousands or whatever mean, it is whatever it was. i mean, it is accurate. is a way of accurate. that is a way of bringing down inflation. it's just would argue just many people would argue it's to do it. it's the wrong way to do it. >> that's completely >> yeah, no, that's completely right. but it interesting right. but it is interesting also looking at that 606,000 number of net migration last yean number of net migration last year, who came year, most people who came didn't come to work. so year, most people who came didn't come to work . so 150,000 didn't come to work. so 150,000 ukrainians came along . most of ukrainians came along. most of them are not in jobs, 200,000
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students, they came to study not in jobs . again, the number who in jobs. again, the number who came specifically on work visas was only a little over 100,000. so perhaps that number being broken down a little bit is a bit different there. but but ultimately , what the government ultimately, what the government would say about this particular relaxation, their top line is it's temporary because stuff tom harwood our deputy political edhon harwood our deputy political editor, thank you very, very much. >> well, joined now the >> well, i'm joined now by the conservative mp marco longhi. marco you much for marco thank you very much for entering the fray. are you on a little bit of a sticky wicket here whereby either brexit has failed and we now have a labour shortage or your party has no intention of bringing down net migration intention of bringing down net migsorryl intention of bringing down net migsorry , patrick, could you >> sorry, patrick, could you repeat the question? >> i think i lost you just when you it. you asked it. >> that's all right. so are you on little bit of a sticky on a little bit of a sticky wicket here sense that it wicket here in the sense that it could argued brexit has could be argued that brexit has failed have failed and therefore we have a labour or the labour shortage or the government has no intention of bringing migration. government has no intention of bringiwould migration. government has no intention of bringiwould your migration. government has no intention of bringiwould your views'ation. government has no intention of bringiwould your views�*aticthat be? >> well, i think the whole point of brexit was in order to reshape economy we in reshape our economy and we in the , we of this
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the whole economy, we of this cheap alternative, which is to import cheap labour. >> and we've always argued how the country has had very low productivity rates. well, guess what? if we don't invest in training and in skills for the future and actually pay these jobs a better wage, then british people aren't going to be applying them. then applying for them. and then naturally business will start shouting and saying, oh, we haven't got enough people here. and government's response is to carry on bringing in. we carry on bringing people in. we are on a vicious that are on a vicious circle that needs to be broken. brexit gave us that opportunity and that's what we should be doing. and by the way, profoundly disagree the way, i profoundly disagree with philip hammond because i don't think he is telling the whole picture here, because if you bring in so many extra people into the country, that in and of itself has inflationary pressures because it's greater demand on services , greater demand on services, greater demand on services, greater demand on services, greater demand on products, greater demand on products, greater demand on products, greater demand on energy. and when you keep putting greater demand , keep putting greater demand, it's that whole equation demand and supply prices stay higher.
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so i don't agree that it's purely deflationary to bring people in. >> well, also in terms of the housing crisis, i mean, they say we need to bring a load of people in to build all the houses because the housing crisis. but then those people have to somewhere. and that have to live somewhere. and that seems rather self—defeating if you would you you ask me. how would you respond people bring respond to people who say, bring irish workers lazy, they respond to people who say, bring irish 'want rs lazy, they respond to people who say, bring irish 'want rs do lazy, they respond to people who say, bring irish 'want rs do these they respond to people who say, bring irish 'want rs do these jobs ? don't want to do these jobs? >> i disagree with them. i mean, of course, we do have several people on our welfare system that should be encouraged to break that cycle they're in at the moment , break that cycle they're in at the moment, which is to stay on welfare. and of course, these people should be offered more incentives to join the world of work. many of these come from areas where for generation after generation they have not been offered the, oh, we might have lost marco there, but we'll try and get him back. >> i'm sure it will pop back up in just a second. but yes, so i think marco is actually back with us. good stuff. yes. i didn't have to do my marco polo
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game there. marco, good stuff. so were saying. yes. so you were just saying. yes. about inflationary pressures. but workers but also the british workers aren't . aren't lazy. >> they are not lazy . no, they >> they are not lazy. no, they are not lazy. we need to offer better training, better pay, and these people will be coming out to work . but these people will be coming out to work. but we these people will be coming out to work . but we also need to to work. but we also need to make sure that we incentivise people who are not in education, training and employment to actually work as well. >> yeah, and i think this will be a devastating blow to a lot of working class brits who might be looking to work in that sector where it's low to medium pay, sector where it's low to medium pay, who are thinking , well, pay, who are thinking, well, maybe i voted concert lviv you know, i'm a working class tory. i voted conservative at the last general election. i wanted people to stand up for british workers rights. i couldn't vote for jeremy corbyn. i didn't want to vote labour. i wanted vote to vote labour. i wanted to vote for patriotic for good, patriotic conservatives . and then they see conservatives. and then they see that someone coming in, not even from european union but from the european union now, but parts africa or india say to parts of africa or india say to come and deliberately undercut
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theirjobs. come and deliberately undercut their jobs. and that, come and deliberately undercut theirjobs. and that, i imagine, is a massive slap in the face. >> of course, it's a slap in the face. and what migration has done has kept wages artificially low. so why would you want to join something that's going to pay you join something that's going to pay you lower rates? i have the benefit of having travel travelled far and wide and i can tell you that if you wanted to employ a plumber, a builder, an engineer of sorts, you these are really well respected areas of work and they are paid more than they are paid here in the united kingdom. so all we are constantly doing is going to areas where wages are currently lower and where the welfare state isn't as good. we import that cheap labour and then what do we do is we don't keep to our manifesto promises in doing so by using spurious arguments around inflation. this is the wrong thing to do. we need to invest in technology , in skills, invest in technology, in skills, invest in technology, in skills, in training , make sure that in training, make sure that employers come forward . and we employers come forward. and we need to also look at what our universe cities are producing as
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well, because we've had that whole debate recently, which i do prime minister do welcome. the prime minister coming is coming forward, which is a universities producing students with degrees that are absolutely worthless. so they come out of education with this expectation of work , work that doesn't exist of work, work that doesn't exist and they've not had the opportunity in other words, get their hands dirty experience what real life is all about as a stepping stone, perhaps to something else. yeah. >> and look, i agree with a huge amount of what you've just said there. no doubt a lot of our viewers and listeners will. but you are unfortunate shortly, marco, position where marco, in the position where your party in power has your party is in power and has actually power actually been in power for a heck a time now, which heck of a long time now, which therefore, in a way, unfortunately makes everything therefore, in a way, unf0|fault. zly makes everything therefore, in a way, unf0|fault.3ly whyzs everything therefore, in a way, unf0|fault.3ly why haveerything therefore, in a way, unf0|fault. zly why have we1ing therefore, in a way, unf0|fault.3ly why have we now your fault. so why have we now not got a situation where british employers have got any incentive whatsoever? as far as i can see, british employers have no incentive at all to train british and pay them. well, we can't keep saying that. that's our ambition. but then enacting policies that completely undercut that .
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completely undercut that. >> okay. so i did miss a big chunk of what you said because my screen has been freezing and i apologise for it's my i apologise for that. if it's my fault . i i apologise for that. if it's my fault. i know i apologise for that. if it's my fault . i know you i apologise for that. if it's my fault. i know you and i agree on pretty much everything here. patrick, you're right. employers do have this incentive to shop overseas. it's something that we need to move away from. we need to look at the apprenticeship levy . i fundamentally to look at the apprenticeship levy. i fundamentally i'm a massive supporter of apprenticeships, but i don't think it's working as well as it should . should. >> okay. look, you know what? we've we've tried with marco. we will leave it there. but marco, thank very, very much. it's thank you very, very much. it's marco there, marco longhi there, the conservative we've conservative mp. i think we've got a heck a lot out of that, got a heck of a lot out of that, to perfectly with you. to be perfectly honest with you. but unfortunately, really, there's too much a there's not really too much of a way the that it's way around the idea that it's all and good saying, all very well and good saying, look, we want to reduce net migration to this amount and then that then consistently not doing that and after record and setting record after record after very well after record, it's all very well and saying, look, want and good saying, look, we want to these british to incentivise these british employers and british companies to british. want to employ british. we want people apprenticeships, people to get apprenticeships,
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but simultaneously enacting people to get apprenticeships, b|policy simultaneously enacting people to get apprenticeships, b|policy sim allows usly enacting people to get apprenticeships, b|policy sim allows them nacting people to get apprenticeships, b|policy sim allows them naipay| a policy that allows them to pay somebody less they come somebody 20% less if they come over here. they can also pay for their visa application for them, which is going down in value and in some cases you can invite people to in fill jobs the way you them as little as you can pay them as little as around 14,500 pounds a year. i would also politely suggest that if somebody is trying to come and live in this country on their own in 14,500 pounds a yean their own in 14,500 pounds a year, and we know that a lot of people are actively trying to come london, so not come to london, so not necessarily to up necessarily move to places up north, bury . et cetera. north, like bury. et cetera. well, how are you going live well, how are you going to live on the state then on that? does the state then have for that as well? so have to pay for that as well? so what is the net benefit to the british taxpayer? i can't help but though we are just but feel as though we are just being lied to. all of this rhetoric about we want to bring everything down. we want try everything down. we want to try and bring everything we and bring everything down. we want workers. want to back british workers. we have golden opportunity have had a golden opportunity to do voted for do that since we voted for brexit and you have to hold your hands up and say frankly, the opposite happening. what opposite is happening. and what about startling about the lack of startling lack of ? startling lack of of creativity? startling lack of
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creativity there only one creativity is there only one solution to anything and that is more migration? vaiews@gbnews.com get them coming loads more on this coming in but loads more on this on our go to on our website. go to gbnews.com. the fastest gbnews.com. it is the fastest growing national news site in the country. it's got all the best analysis, big opinion and of course the latest breaking news. and if breaking news happens, it tends to happen in this so your this time slot. so keep your eyes but we're eyes and ears peeled. but we're also running campaign, aren't also running a campaign, aren't we? rather we? and it's going rather well to the becoming a to stop the uk becoming a cashless the campaign cashless society. the campaign is don't kill cash, and is called don't kill cash, and it's proving hugely it's proving to be hugely popular. up to now? popular. where are we up to now? 223,000 people have signed it. good .the 223,000 people have signed it. good . the petition is on good stuff. the petition is on our website, gbnews.com forward slash help gb news with our slash cash help gb news with our campaign and tell the authorities don't kill cash authorities don't kill our cash . now senior bbc bosses are facing questions as we speak , so facing questions as we speak, so that grilling is ongoing. it's an ongoing grilling on how the corporation handled the allegations against hugh elle edwards. we will we will be checking in on that shortly. i'm also to going be talking about big opposition to a big local opposition to a ginormous new mosque that is
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going to be popping up by a big london . so it's all to london landmark. so it's all to play london landmark. so it's all to play for there. and of course, we will keep up to speed with the bibby stockholm, which now is in porto . and i'm is very much in porto. and i'm patrick christys on gb news. and this is
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will house 500 men finally arrived. >> and that ties into a topic i'm to going be discussing a bit later on as well. where are all the women and children crossing the women and children crossing the channel? what are the numbers? it comes down to numbers? when it comes down to the age? and of course as well, gender of people gender representation of people making that journey the making that journey across the busiest lane the busiest shipping lane in the world. are flooding world. the emails are flooding in fast at the moment in thick and fast at the moment and from for and they're from john, for example, talking the example, talking about the potential rules potential relaxase of visa rules and for lower skilled and regs for lower skilled foreign labour. he says, look, people come here, they work for less and then out of our taxes we can end up paying their rent and housing benefits, etcetera. that's view. david also that's john's view. david also has touch say some has been in touch to say some people immigration is people think that immigration is too yet they relax too large, yet they then relax the does not compute, the rules. it does not compute, he it's a crock of it's he says. it's a crock of it's a family show. okay it's a family show. but i take your point and i'm sure everybody else does as well. views and gbnews.com. well. gb views and gbnews.com. but fallout from the huw but the fallout from the huw edwards the edwards scandal continues. the bbc's director general, tim davie , is among number of davie, is among a number of senior officials being questioned by mps today. and to give us the lowdown all of
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give us the lowdown on all of this, i'm joined in the studio by gb news national reporter paul hawkins. paul the latest? >> so the lords >> so this is the lords communications committee with the davie the director general, tim davie , ellen dame , the acting chair. ellen dame ellen closs stevens and the director of the director of policy, claire sumner. at the moment they're still being questioned by a group of 13 peers, including lord hall or tony hall , peers, including lord hall or tony hall, who used to be the director general of the bbc. this was always scheduled, this meeting as part about the bbc's future , the bbc's funding. bbc future, the bbc's funding. bbc challenges and governance. but top of the list they started with the scandal that surrounded the bbc and huw edwards, which we know about , the bbc and huw edwards, which we know about, and we've learned this afternoon, according to the director general, this afternoon, according to the director general , the bbc has director general, the bbc has beenin director general, the bbc has been in contact with the complaint in the huw edwards case. but the director general said he can only go so far in discussing details due to concerns about privacy and he also had this update on the ongoing investigation and when where they're at with that areas
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i >> -- >> the process of looking at those facts and i would say we're keen to receive any information on because we just want to understand anything that's out there . it's difficult that's out there. it's difficult to give you a precise time on that. the reason is because you have to go through that diligently , assess the diligently, assess the information. there's also duty of care concerns within that. so on that one, specifically, because i'm not in control of all the variables , that could all the variables, that could take weeks or it could take a couple of months, depending on or even longer, depending on what get managing the what we get and managing the individual files involved flawlessly . and i and i, my main flawlessly. and i and i, my main priority is to be fair, make sure we get all the information into that process and act judiciously . yeah judiciously. yeah >> so he's basically saying, well, look, we're to going have to wait and see essentially. >> yeah. so the investigation hasn't started yet. they're in the to work out the stages of trying to work out the stages of trying to work out the of reference. you the terms of reference. so you said the chief operating officer at bbc will take charge of at the bbc will take charge of it senior
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it along with a deloitte senior partner , simon cuerden, who has partner, simon cuerden, who has what called extensive what he called extensive experience this field . the experience in this field. the full terms of reference will be put on thursday. put to the board on thursday. they'll it and then they'll then publish it and then an will get underway as an inquiry will get underway as soon he's been soon as possible. but he's been clear afternoon it clear this afternoon that it could take months or possibly longer before there's an outcome and before we know the full facts course, we don't facts which of course, we don't know at know about the allegations at the this and we the centre of this case. and we haven't from so far. and haven't heard from so far. and they may return to talking about this but at the moment this case. but at the moment they're talking about funding this case. but at the moment they're bbc ng about funding this case. but at the moment they're bbc ng ab0lfee nding for the bbc licence fee settlement, future, etcetera. that's still ongoing. that questioning in house questioning in the house of lords. what haven't heard lords. but what we haven't heard so far is he hasn't been asked about whether the sun have been cooperating bbc as part cooperating with the bbc as part of this investigation, as it said it would, because of course the has always said, yeah, the sun has always said, yeah, we haven't published any evidence, have evidence, but we do have evidence. what evidence. yes that backs up what the parents of the young person have said. no exactly that. >> exactly that. let's just check a bit, because check in a little bit, because this is still ongoing. so i believe that we might able to believe that we might be able to just what's taking just show you what's taking place at place right now at this particular have a universal particular we have a universal this of grilling. if you
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this kind of grilling. if you want call it that, is still want to call it that, is still ongoing. you were ongoing. but as you were alluding paul, it has alluding to there, paul, it has made the old licence fee issue kind of rear its head a bit. again, bbc faces licence fee review as it blames increased competition for 500 k slump after brits snub levy. this is on our website at the moment so you can read in more detail about that. gbnews.com. it does have the feeling like, well, i mean the bbc is under quite a bit pressure at the moment. bit of pressure at the moment. >> it is under pressure in >> yeah, it is under pressure in the in the in the run up to all licence to the negotiations over a new licence fee settlement offer . then they talk about a new licence fee settlement offer. then they talk about and there are multiple reports at there are multiple reports at the altar , alternatives are the altar, alternatives are being looked at, will be discussed at that. we're open to other of funding so it's other forms of funding so it's naturally the build up naturally part of the build up to all the negotiate surrounding a renewal of the licence fee. so we shouldn't be expected about that. and the bbc, tim davie, the director general, has been openin the director general, has been open in talking about alternative forms of funding
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that that it has to be considered. not saying he would go with it, but that but essentially what the bbc is still about and about being impartial and about sticking to truth not being open to too truth and not being open to too many forces means many commercial forces means that it many commercial forces means thatitis many commercial forces means that it is able to take more creative risks as well. so yeah, this is all part of this is all part of that discussion . part of that discussion. absolutely it is. >> paul, look, thank you very, very much. paul hawkins there, our reporter. our national reporter. so essentially going be essentially it's going to be a bit wait and see moment for bit of a wait and see moment for how exactly handle the bit of a wait and see moment for how edwards exactly handle the bit of a wait and see moment for how edwards inayay handle the bit of a wait and see moment for how edwards inaya investigation. huw edwards inaya investigation. i know. wonder whether i don't know. i wonder whether or people are trying or not people are trying to juggle or not people are trying to juggle sensitive services juggle the sensitive services of that particular the that particular issue at the moment. statement moment. and given the statement released huw edwards as released by huw edwards wife as well to his mental well in regard to his mental state, but also as well, i think the legitimate public the very, very legitimate public interest in the idea that people don't want thing rumbling don't want this thing rumbling on kicked the on and being kicked into the long before are long grass before there are answers are. be answers to what are. let's be honest and very , very serious honest and very, very serious questions. gb views and gbnews.com is that email address loads between now and 4:00 in loads on between now and 4:00 in just a couple of minutes. i will
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take you live to portland. locals are protesting the bibby stockholm barge. after stockholm migrant barge. after it's we'll be talking it's arrived, we'll be talking about all of that and also be talking to talking about opposition to a massive mosque opening up supposedly anyway in london. right in the heart of london. and a bustling tourist area and a bustling lgbtq+ region of the city. as well. i mean, i can't see any problems happening there. i don't know about you, but right now, your headlines but right now, as your headlines with . patrick, thank you. >> the top stories, the bbc's director general has told the house of lords communications and digital committee that staff at the corporation are confident in the broadcaster's whistleblowing process . and tim whistleblowing process. and tim davie confirmed the organisation has been in touch with the complainant who alleged huw edwards paid a young person for explicit images . since the explicit images. since the allegations were published in the sun, the home office says the first asylum seekers will be moved to the bibby stockholm migrant barge next week. the barge will be used to house
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single male asylum seekers . single male asylum seekers. portland residents are protesting and calling for the barge to be housed elsewhere . barge to be housed elsewhere. dumas and the home secretary says the risk of a terror attack in the uk is rising. suella braverman has identif died islamic terrorism as the primary uk domestic threat. she also confirmed northern ireland related terrorism remains a significant threat , with some significant threat, with some dissident groups continuing to carry out attacks . you can get carry out attacks. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . direct bullion sponsors. >> the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . for gold and silver investment. here's a quick snapshot of today's markets . today's markets. >> the pound will buy you $1.3079 and ,1.1648. the price of gold is £1,510.13 per ounce.
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and the ftse 100 is . at 7435 and the ftse 100 is. at 7435 points . sorry . look at the points. sorry. look at the weather . the temperatures are weather. the temperatures are rising . and then i thought, hold rising. and then i thought, hold on. you're only throwing to the weather. yeah, like if you can't do that, can you imagine? hello again . again. >> it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . rain for many of the met office with the gb news forecast. rain for many of us at the moment and through the rest of the day . showers for some and of the day. showers for some and in 1 or 2 spots it is dry and bright, but the rain or showers do ease. later as this little weather feature moves through , weather feature moves through, it's going to push into the nonh it's going to push into the north sea by the end of the day, peeung north sea by the end of the day, peeling away the rain from southern scotland, northern ireland, northern and central england still some showery bursts for northern and eastern england for a time and also some
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showers arriving into the north and northwest of scotland. northern ireland, clear northern ireland, but clear spells elsewhere however, bit spells elsewhere, however, a bit more around and slightly more cloud around and slightly milder air with so a less milder air with us. so a less cool night, 1516 in the south. i think single figures still though, for scotland and northern ireland. that's where the best the sunshine will the best of the sunshine will be first thing on wednesday morning. and also there'll be some sunny for wales some sunny spells for wales southwest england, a lot of cloud elsewhere. and the early rainfall in the east turns to showers widely , actually will showers widely, actually will see an afternoon of sunny spells and showers. between the and showers. but in between the showers, there will be some warmth in the sun. 23 celsius in the south, 18 to 20 in the north. the showers heaviest in the east thursday sees a return to sunny spells and showers for many. but i think a better chance of drier and brighter interludes at times. likewise, friday, a day of sunny spells and showers before some more persistent rain arrives from the northwest later. and that will be with us this weekend . be with us this weekend. >> the temperatures rising . a >> the temperatures rising. a boxt solar proud sponsors of
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weather on . weather on. gb news. >> sadly finally arrived. the migrant barge that will house 500 male asylum seekers has arrived in dorset. a number of locals have been protesting at portland harbour today, the first asylum seekers are expected to board the bibby stockholm later this month . so stockholm later this month. so without further dither and delay, let's cross live now to portland speak to our home and security editor mark white. yes, mark, so strong local opposition. we knew that was going to happen . but the barge going to happen. but the barge is there now that's that . is there now and that's that. >> yes, it is. it's here now and is likely to be here for the foreseeable future. i think , foreseeable future. i think, sadly, according to many of the locals we've spoken to, i've got some breaking to news share with
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you that i think puts this whole issue into context. this from our kent producer who has counted nine, nine small boats that have crossed the english channel today say that's 450 at least people who have crossed the english channel in small boats . just today, a break in boats. just today, a break in the weather that allowed this surge in small boats to come across. let's take a look down here now. patrick this is the bibby stockholm accommodation , bibby stockholm accommodation, an open house, 500. so almost just the number that have crossed the english channel. so far today would take up all the accommodation in this particular barge . that gives you an barge. that gives you an indication on, i think, of the scale of this crisis that continues as the government is trying to take action. it's trying to take action. it's trying to take action. it's trying to look at these as an
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opfion trying to look at these as an option to get away from hotel accommodation for those that are coming across. accommodation for those that are coming across . they're doing coming across. they're doing deals with the french in the hope of trying to be more robust in the policing of french beaches. they, of course, are still struggling to get agreement and the supreme court eventually they hope to agree that the rwanda policy is lawful and all the while, people are still coming across the english channel. remember, just over a month ago, rishi sunak stood up, just down the coast in dover, telling us that the small boats policy of his government was working, that it had led to a 20% fall in the numbers crossing the english channel. that was true maybe a month ago, but it was all down to the weather with improved points in the weather. we are fast approaching 14,000
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people now who have crossed the engush people now who have crossed the english channel and that is the same number at this period last yeah same number at this period last year. so that gives you an indication of what we're up against because the extra 14,000 this year is on top of the 40,000 last year on top of the 28,000 the year before . people 28,000 the year before. people that are still in the system and being accommodated and increasingly in in the future, barges like this perhaps , or air barges like this perhaps, or air bases. but they still require to be accommodated and they land in ever larger numbers. patrick an indication i think just sharing that breaking news with you about the situation in the engush about the situation in the english channel today gives you some clarity as to what the job in hand is to try to deal with this crisis. >> yeah, i mean, it is it is perfectly reasonable to suggest that if the current rate of travel across the channel continues, we will need to line up so many barges in order to
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accommodate these people that they walk the they could just walk across the channel by skipping across their rooftops . but mark, local rooftops. but mark, the local opposition there today on their kind of d—day , their local day kind of d—day, their local day of reckoning, the day that potentially their well potentially their area may well change forever . what's that been change forever. what's that been like . like. >> well, i mean, it's been vociferous. there are those local people who are very concerned about the impact that it will have on the local economy , not just a local economy, not just a local economy, not just a local economy, but but the locality here, the people, the population , 500 single, young men who will be accommodated on this barge and who will be free to wander aboutin and who will be free to wander about in portland. and of course surrounding areas such as weymouth. there is some real concern about that in tandem with these protests, although on opposite sides. but both of them who are opposed to the barge , who are opposed to the barge, you have those human rights
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groups who claim that it is an infringement of the human rights of these asylum seekers to put them on accommodation like this. i think the government makes no apology, but they say it's, you know, basic austere accommodation. but it's safe and they get fed and they get a place to rest their head and their secure. but they want it also to act as a deterrent so that people that are coming across here. patrick will find that at the end of the day, they might not be going into a hotel. they might find themselves in a barge like this or or on an air base. but in doing that, of course it does also bring with it fierce local condemned action and concern because you may have 100 or 150 in a hotel, in a community somewhere. but when you're talking about 500 or with regard to the air bases, 1700 or
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2000 even up at scampton in smaller communities, you can understand why people in those communities would be very concerned about the impact on their local neighbourhoods. yeah, absolutely . yeah, absolutely. >> and it's also the gender of these people as well, predominantly young men. mark, why thank you much. why thank you very much. our home editor from the home security editor from the scene and lots to out scene there. and lots to go out there. barge has there. firstly that barge has been a—okay for every been absolutely a—okay for every single other person who's ever had on it, which had to stay on it, which includes other seekers includes other asylum seekers and migrants. it includes workers. has just had a workers. it has just had a refit. they are basically free to come and go. they will be strongly encouraged to return to that barge at around at that barge at around 11:00 at night, which , let's be honest, night, which, let's be honest, if you think you be about if you think you might be about to be booted out of the country, you're going do, aren't you're not going to do, aren't you? is that issue. you? so there is that issue. i've stats and i've got some stats here and this into conversation this ties into a conversation i'm going to be having later on in the show, which where in the show, which is where are all and children? all the women and children? where where all where are they? where are all those people supposed to those people who are supposed to be of asylum be most in need of asylum and refuge? look the refuge? when i look at the numbers here, of all numbers here, 95% of all albanian small boats crossings
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turned men. turned out to be men. 87% of small boats arrivals in 2022 were and majority of were men, and the majority of them aged between 18 to them were aged between 18 to 39. it like an 18 to it is a bit like an 18 to 30 cruise, it? across cruise, isn't it? just across the channel into britain the channel and into britain forever. going to speak forever. but i'm going to speak now alex bailey, who's the now to alex bailey, who's the organiser no to the barge organiser of the no to the barge group. you group. alex, thank you very much. question very much. another question i'm very keen ask you when see keen to ask you is when we see some those people with some of those people there with the refugees, welcome banners just of interest, do they just out of interest, do they live ? live in your area? >> so first of all, i just want to say good to see you again, patrick. >> and thank you very much for michael , >> and thank you very much for michael, mark white and jeff moody for their continued support far, both on the support so far, both on the ground and you guys in the studio. >> so are they from this area often? no, they're not, unfortunately. >> um , yeah. today we had a lot >> um, yeah. today we had a lot of people from portland itself who came out to support us. but from this other group who were , from this other group who were, i'd say, quite testy. and there were moments there, no. so realistically, the major opposition to you guys protesting about or voicing your
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concerns about having a barge in your area is coming from people who are bused in, who don't live there, who get quite angry and then leave . then leave. >> yes, they left and they actually vandalised several of the bridges in the area. >> and some other structures that were there. it was quite unfortunate altogether . unfortunate altogether. >> so actual criminal damage as well , which shows i >> so actual criminal damage as well, which shows i think, exactly how much they really do care your local area. care about your local area. fascinating times. we live in, alex, isn't it fascinating times. but anyway , back to the times. but anyway, back to the matter how do you feel? matter in hand. how do you feel? because, a because, look, this is a day that i think you knew was coming, but probably dreaded thatis coming, but probably dreaded that is true. >> patrick. we knew it was coming . um, gladly. the weather coming. um, gladly. the weather was such . so a month of respite, was such. so a month of respite, as it were. and but we had a really good turnout today . this really good turnout today. this was all about reclaiming the voices of the portlanders that was taken by this home office, who, to be honest , they need to who, to be honest, they need to pull their sleeves up. they need to look at what they're doing
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wrong, whether that's funding, whether that's people power, because what they're doing is not enough . not enough. >> okay . yeah, exactly. and it >> okay. yeah, exactly. and it will be people in the local area like yourselves who will end up beanng like yourselves who will end up bearing down the brunt of this. how do you feel about the supposedly hourly bus service? there's going to be taking some of those people from the barge around the local area so they can do things like go shopping at the taxpayer's expense quite frankly, again, this is a disparity between the people of portland and weymouth . portland and weymouth. >> we're aware of the situation , too, and there seemingly is this endless money tree that is being made available and it's just really not fair. patrick no, okay. >> all right. and i suppose what happens now for you guys, do you just continue to voice your disappoint and are you going to be single day be there every single day protesting going to protesting and what's going to happen a couple avenues happen so a couple of avenues have mind . have come to mind. >> going to be looking at >> we're going to be looking at
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legal avenue, we're legal avenue, which is we're going finding assistance going to be finding assistance from barrister with maritime from a barrister with maritime and commission and planning commission experience out there just to help us. and we do have a request for that. we're also going to be protesting when the cruise liners come in, just to show between show the disparity there between these people who are these wealthy people who are able to afford to go on cruise liners and poor people , liners and these poor people, the seekers the barge the asylum seekers on the barge itself. we also an idea to itself. we also have an idea to go to the langham wine estate to and have a conversation there with the owners of the portland port. >> well, that is fascinating and i look forward to however that does play out. alex, thank you very, very much. alex bailey is the organiser with the no to the barge group. isn't it really, really insightful when you see people saying people turning up saying refugees a perfect refugees welcome is a perfect little of reality, little microcosm of reality, isn't it? people saying, oh look, come on, we've got room for everybody . do you for absolutely everybody. do you live area this live in this area where this barge going be? well, no, barge is to going be? well, no, no, live here. right. no, we don't live here. right. so it's not going affect you, so it's not going to affect you, is no, it's not all. is it? no, it's not at all. okay. all right. a little bit like gary lineker of this
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like the gary lineker of this world, doesn't world, isn't it? it doesn't really them. kids all really affect them. the kids all go school. you know, go to private school. you know, the gps, etcetera. go to private school. you know, the at gps, etcetera. go to private school. you know, the at the gps, etcetera. go to private school. you know, the at the coalface, , etcetera. go to private school. you know, the at the coalface, but:etera. go to private school. you know, the at the coalface, but moving not at the coalface, but moving on. seven dwarves. on. snow white, seven dwarves. this is shift in tone have this is a shift in tone have been cancelled. has been cancelled. disney has replaced new film with replaced them in a new film with seven magical creatures . i will seven magical creatures. i will be telling you why this is much more important than it sounds. very shortly. patrick christys on britain's
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channel >> well, on faux pas, we'll discuss the news that working visa rules are being relaxed to tackle the lack apparently of carpenters, bricklayers, roofers , etcetera. in this country. i will be asking having a big discussion on this, are brits lazy loads of emails on that so far? we'll go to them shortly. thank much, keith. and thank you very much, keith. and coming gbviews@gbnews.com. but now white's seven have been now snow white's seven have been given short shrift by disney. they've been replaced by what are being called seven seven magic magical creatures in a film that will be released next yeah film that will be released next year. and these magical creatures , well, frankly, are creatures, well, frankly, are not really dwarves, are they ? not really dwarves, are they? with me now is the host of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge. paul oh, thank you very, very much . some people are very, very much. some people are saying that this really is just a you know, a marker of, you know, unfortunately a marginalised group less work to make group getting less work to make way for , you know, other other way for, you know, other other people essentially . people essentially. >> and they would be right to say that. >> absolutely, yes. walt disney will be spinning in his cryogenic chamber at this point.
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>> the these attempts at inclusive city actually, as you've just made clear, exclude there aren't any dwarves in this production . and yet actually, if production. and yet actually, if you go back to the original brothers grimm story, it is called snow white and the seven i >>i >> i checked this before i came on, just seeing if this was some sort aberration in 1931 when sort of aberration in 1931 when there was a particular insensitive city. >> white the >> it is snow white and the seven it's actually seven dwarves. it's actually a part of the historical canon of fairy tales, and being fairy tales, and it's being misrepresent rented deliberately fairy tales, and it's being misgood;ent rented deliberately fairy tales, and it's being misgood newsznted deliberately fairy tales, and it's being misgood news is,3d deliberately fairy tales, and it's being misgood news is, andzliberately fairy tales, and it's being misgood news is, and there |tely fairy tales, and it's being misgood news is, and there isly the good news is, and there is actually some good news for the inclusivity executives at disney , netflix and warner brothers have all exited those companies in the last six weeks. bob iger has come back to disney in november last year, this production actually predated this. and so there was a ceo at disney that was almost solely responsible for turning. it woke . and so these people have actually all left the building now and they're left with some of these productions that are
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getting these headlines and they're not being particularly protected so i think protected by disney. so i think that the are good for the that the signs are good for the future , that major corporations future, that major corporations have the message that they have got the message that they can't tinkering with these can't keep tinkering with these things, in things, these productions in a sort of propaganda kind of way. yeah no, exactly. >> some of magical >> but some of these magical creatures, mean, basically creatures, i mean, it basically might as well be called might as well just be called snow white the seven snow white and the seven politically companions. politically correct companions. martin because we have at least three people appear to be three people who appear to be black, there's an individual owl there as well, who looks to me to be hispanic. we do, to be fair, have one. so that person has has made the cut, which is good. sorry about his six mates who've to way we who've had to make way and we just a couple of other just have a couple of other people, frankly, just people, frankly, who just look homeless . so maybe that is the homeless. so maybe that is the niche for going homeless. so maybe that is the niche but for going homeless. so maybe that is the niche but do for going homeless. so maybe that is the niche but do find for going homeless. so maybe that is the niche but do find itr going homeless. so maybe that is the niche but do find it bizarre there. but i do find it bizarre that yes, in order to try to be more inclusive , they are now more inclusive, they are now actually desperately trying to get rid of people who are marginalised currently marginalised as it currently stands . stands anyway. >> oh, absolutely. >> oh, absolutely. >> i mean, this is this is where the left fall over themselves making these kind of policies.
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and we've had so many i mean, in the united states, we've had so many this attempting many examples of this attempting to be inclusive. like there's been sort of company mascots taken off the cover of cereal packets . et cetera, because packets. et cetera, because they're deemed to be racist. and they're deemed to be racist. and the only people that are actually left on the cereal packets now are white. so it is it look, never it never fails it look, it never it never fails to be entertaining. but there is a very real point to this. there is a there is this inverse prejudice, if you like. it's like you actually being excluded because you're a. i mean, this is. >> but it's it is the absurdity. so it's called snow white and the seven dwarves, which apparently is supposed to have been around of like , been around some kind of like, fair well, the fair german maiden. well, the lady who's going to play snow white is hispanic. and there aren't seven dwarves. so it's just a different story . just a different story. >> well, i'm glad you brought this up. rachel zegler, who's actually playing snow white. she was she's a brilliant actress and was brilliant actress and she was a brilliant actress in west story. and she was in west side story. and she was cast in west side story because the original the
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the original casting of the original before the original movie before the spielberg there's no spielberg reboot, there's no e in my name duddridge the before the reboot was played by natalie wood, and that was deemed to be okay, look, if we ever remake this, let's have a latina actress in and they did rachel zegler was fantastic as maria in the spielberg reboot of west side story. so it seems reasonable that she quite rightly has benefited from cultural sensitive casting. this is called snow white. the opening lines of the story is i want my daughter to have skin as white as snow and her lips as red as blood. that was the whole point. >> yeah , indeed. and it has just >> yeah, indeed. and it has just completely changed. paul duddndge completely changed. paul duddridge without an e, thank completely changed. paul dudvery e without an e, thank completely changed. paul dudvery much.)ut an e, thank completely changed. paul dudvery much. as an e, thank completely changed. paul dudvery much. as ever, thank completely changed. paul dud very much. as ever, theink you very much. as ever, the politics people podcast. joining us from stateside now, a reminder of that news that broke a few minutes ago at least 450 migrants across the channel in small boats today, bearing in mind that the bibby stockholm houses . patrick houses 500. go figure. patrick christys gb news, britain's news channel brighter outlook with channel a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of
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weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again. >> hello again. >> it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . rain for many of the met office with the gb news forecast. rain for many of us at the moment and through the rest of the day, showers for some and in 1 or 2 spots it is dry and bright, but the rain or showers do ease later as this little weather feature moves through, it's going to push into the nonh it's going to push into the north sea by the end of the day, peeung north sea by the end of the day, peeling away the rain from southern scotland, northern ireland, northern and central england. still some showery bursts for northern and eastern england for a time and also some showers arriving into the north and northwest of scotland, northern ireland. but clear spells elsewhere, however, bit spells elsewhere, however, a bit more cloud around and slightly milder air with us. so a less cool night, 1516 in the south, i think single figures still though for scotland and northern ireland. that's where the best of the sunshine will be first thing on wednesday morning. thing on on wednesday morning. and there'll be some sunny and also there'll be some sunny spells wales, south—west spells for wales, south—west
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england, cloud england, a lot of cloud elsewhere and the early rainfall in the east turns to showers widely actually will see an afternoon of sunny spells and showers. but in between the showers. but in between the showers there will be some warmth in the sun. 23 celsius in the south, 18 to 20 in the north are the showers heaviest in the east. thursday sees return to sunny spells and showers for many. but i think a better chance of drier and brighter interludes at times. likewise, friday, a day of sunny spells and showers before some more persistent rain arrives from the northwest later. and that will be with us this weekend . and be with us this weekend. and a brighter outlook with boxt solar are proud sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> it's 4 pm. it's patrick christys is gb news are brits lazy? that's what i want to know. why do we keep having to recruit cheap foreign labour? is it actually if you're being honest because you don't want to work in job for that amount work in that job for that amount of or is that deeply of money or is that deeply offensive government is offensive and our government is letting under letting people wander in under cut working class. cut the british working class. in news, there massive in other news, there is massive backlash now to a huge mosque thatis backlash now to a huge mosque that is going to be constructed in in central london. what do you make of all of this? do you think that this actually fair enough, is this just the way the
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demographic of country demographic of the country are going actually, it going or actually, is it a little bit offensive to some people actually live there? little bit offensive to some pe other actually live there? little bit offensive to some pe other news,tually live there? little bit offensive to some pe other news, we're live there? little bit offensive to some pe other news, we're going1ere? little bit offensive to some pe other news, we're going1er
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gb news loads. on okay. gb views gbnews.com is that email address? i want your reaction to that huge mosque that's being built at a central london landmark . it built at a central london landmark. it is built at a central london landmark . it is near built at a central london landmark. it is near a big lgbtq+ area as well . so, you lgbtq+ area as well. so, you know, can anyone else see a couple of issues rearing its head there? so yeah, get your emails coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. but now as your headlines. gbviews@gbnews.com. but now as your headlines . patrick thank you. >> good afternoon . the bbc's >> good afternoon. the bbc's director general has been telling a parliamentary committee today that staff at the corporation are confident in the corporation are confident in the broadcaster's whistleblowing process . the house of lords process. the house of lords communications and digital committee asked tim davie why the organisation hadn't taken allegations against its most highly paid news presenter more seriously and sooner. the bbc boss confirmed that the organisation has been in touch with the complainant who alleged huw edwards paid a young person for explicit images . since the
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for explicit images. since the allegations were published in the sun. tim davie says the investigation could take a while to reach a conclusion . to reach a conclusion. >> it's difficult to give you a precise time on that. the reason is because you have to go through that diligently , assess through that diligently, assess the information. there's also duty of care concerns within that. so on that one, specifically, because i'm not in control of all the variables , control of all the variables, that could take weeks or it could take a couple of months, depending on or even longer, depending on or even longer, depending on or even longer, depending on we get and depending on what we get and managing the individuals involved flawlessly . and i and involved flawlessly. and i and my main priority is, to be fair , to make sure we get all the information into that process and act judiciously. >> tim davie speaking earlier on today. well, gb news understands 450 people have crossed the engush 450 people have crossed the english channel in nine small boats this morning . the news boats this morning. the news comes as the first group of asylum seekers will be moved to asylum seekers will be moved to a migrant barge which is currently docked in portland in dorset. next week. the bibby stockholm is going to be used to
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house single male asylum seekers as part of the government's plan to reduce the cost of housing migrants in hotels . local migrants in hotels. local residents are calling for the barge to be moved elsewhere and say that protesters at the scene are not even from the local area . the secretary for energy security and net zero grant shapps says the key priority is to control the uk's borders . to control the uk's borders. >> it is incredibly important that government has control over who comes to the country. last night we passed a milestone by finally defeating labour, both in the house of commons and the house of lords, who have voted dozens and dozens of times against a bill designed to stop the small boats . we are trying the small boats. we are trying to make sure that we can control our borders and that is the difference between a conservative government who want to and to control our borders and a labour government who simply have answer . the home have no answer. the home secretary says the risk of a terror attack in the uk is now on the rise. >> speaking in westminster,
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suella braverman has identified islamist terrorism as the primary uk domestic threat. ms braverman also confirmed northern ireland related terrorism remains a significant threat, with some dissident groups continuing to threaten attacks . the home secretary also attacks. the home secretary also warned of russia, iran and china , referring to russia as the most pressing national security concern . concern. >> terrorist attacks are becoming increasing , seemingly becoming increasing, seemingly unpredictable, making them harder to detect and investigate. >> today , unlike in previous >> today, unlike in previous years , terrorist movements are years, terrorist movements are increasingly fragmented and disparate , and there are disparate, and there are emerging threats from the extreme right and from abroad . extreme right and from abroad. >> and despite the prevalence of lower sophistication attacks in the uk, the threat today is more diverse , dynamic and complex . diverse, dynamic and complex. >> consequently, we judge that the risk from terrorism is rising .
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rising. >> the former manchester united footballer ryan giggs says he's relieved at being cleared of domestic violence allegations after charges against him were dropped. the 49 year old was due to stand trial for a second time. accused of controlling or coercive behaviour towards his ex—girlfriend. but lawyers have withdrawn the prosecution. ryan giggs denies the offences and his previous trial ended last august , with the jury his previous trial ended last august, with the jury failing to reach a verdict at a us national has crossed the border from south to north korea and is being held in the north, according to the united nations . us officials say the individual is a member of the us military who is taking part in a tour of the joint security area and crossed the military demarcation line separating the two koreas. is countries in europe are continuing to swelter their way through an extreme summer heatwave. british holiday destinations like spain , italy, destinations like spain, italy, greece and even parts of the
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balkans are being hit with very high temperatures and forest fires continue to blaze in many parts of europe, with firefighters eating planes and helicopters being used to fight wildfires near athens. in greece, the greek prime minister has cut short his trip to brussels to oversee government activities as the fires rage . activities as the fires rage. now a solution to the 2026 commonwealth games being held in australia, which has refused to host it, now can be found and the idea of the uk hosting the games instead is premature . games instead is premature. according to downing street, the state of victoria decided to withdraw as host of the 2026 games because it was too expensive, costing more than £3 billion three times more than it originally expected . and you're originally expected. and you're with gb news. more news as it happens. back now to .
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happens. back now to. patrick >> well, we start with that news that thousands of foreign construction workers are set to move britain the move to britain after the government relaxed visa restrictions. carpenters, restrictions. so carpenters, bricklayers and roofers are among who will be allowed among those who will be allowed to apply for work visas and get a on fees in a bid to a discount on fees in a bid to fill uk jobs shortages . but bear fill uk jobs shortages. but bear in mind the net migration last year was 606,000. so we're not really sure to people, but but we do still need to bring in skilled workers from abroad . so skilled workers from abroad. so i wanted to know, is it that brits are just lazy? i'm going to be having a discussion on this very shortly. but for more of the facts on all of this is deputy political editor tom harwood tom. the facts about cheap foreign labour, please. well shortage list well a shortage occupation list is a deliberate government policy to bring in individuals who might not meet all of the criteria of our new points based system for immigration and the way that our post—brexit immigration system works is that there's a relatively high salary
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threshold and english speaking requirements that are needed for people to come into this country. >> however , for the shortage, >> however, for the shortage, occupation lists, these are areas where the government thinks that we frankly don't have enough people in the country who are trained to do this stuff or who want to do this stuff or who want to do this then salary this stuff. then the salary threshold is massively reduced to 80% of the average for the salary of that particular industry, rather than an employer's employer can now legally pay people 20% less essentially than they would a brit. well, they can legally pay any. this isn't about 20% less than the minimum wage. there's no legal restriction. this is just off the market rate. the average wages of the industry. >> so if they advertise that job to at that salary , the to a brit at that salary, the brit probably go that's brit would probably go that's 20% the average 20% less than what the average wage is. i'm not taking that job. yes, somebody from say, job. yes, but somebody from say, i know, bulgaria i don't know, bulgaria might go, yes, money. yes, that's loads of money. right yes, that's loads of money. rig and that's and where >> and that's and that's where the trying to the government is trying to bnngin the government is trying to bring in people bring in more people specifically. this
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specifically. and i think this gets heart of something. gets to the heart of something. there commentary, a there was a lot of commentary, a couple of months ago when the migration came that couple of months ago when the migra people came that couple of months ago when the migra people the me that couple of months ago when the migra people the government when people said the government has control of migration , has lost control of migration, this working. is it this isn't working. why is it they haven't? they are making specific policy choices for more migration. boris johnson liberalised the number of students that can come to british universities. there were then 150,000 hong kongers, 150,000 ukrainians, and these were delivered policy choices that the government has made. so often in the round. the government seems to be talking out of two sides of its mouth. it says, we want to bring down net migration, but then when it comes the specifics, it's comes to the specifics, it's like, do want nurses? like, do you want fewer nurses? do want fewer construction do you want fewer construction workers ? do you want fewer workers? do you want fewer ukrainians? and on each of those specific questions, the government say no. so government would say no. so there these of two there you get these sort of two elements government policy, elements of government policy, almost going at each other. >> yeah. and it really does look as it might potentially as though it might potentially be to bring be a deliberate attempt to bring down inflation. we've had philip hammond, our chancellor hammond, our former chancellor spreadsheet, phil, of course, most arguably for having
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most famous, arguably for having a sweet theresa may during a cough sweet theresa may during one awful one of the most infamously awful speeches as a conservative party conference before one of the most infamously awful tenures as prime minister that we've ever had, was saying that one way had, he was saying that one way to bring down inflation was to be essentially wages be to essentially keep wages artificially import as artificially low and import as many people as we many foreign people as we possibly i am paraphrasing possibly can. i am paraphrasing there don't sue me spreadsheet, phil, thing that phil, but this is the thing that for lot people quite for a lot of people won't quite get heads around, which get their heads around, which is how can have many how on earth can we have so many people britain people arriving into britain every 1.2 million every single year? 1.2 million people how can we people arrived. yes. how can we still have what what jobs are they what jobs are they still have what what jobs are they well,nhat jobs are they still have what what jobs are they well, here's)bs are they still have what what jobs are they well, here's the are they doing? well, here's the interesting thing. >> them aren't doing >> a lot of them aren't doing jobs. example, while jobs. so, for example, while this first year that this was the first year that asylum seekers included asylum seekers were included in that there's a statutory that figure, there's a statutory ban on asylum seekers from working. in fact, they have to live at taxpayers expense. live at the taxpayers expense. so that's a significant number within those hundreds of thousands. there's also no ukrainians who have come along who in jobs, are who aren't in jobs, who are living in people's homes. there's also 200,000 students who work . actually, who aren't in work. actually, if you the number and
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you break down the number and the net number is 606,000, the majority of that number aren't people who've come to work. >> okay, good . so well, on that, >> okay, good. so well, on that, it's fascinating discussion. it's a fascinating discussion. we're going have a of a we're going to have a bit of a debate now, a bit of a further chat anyway whether not chat anyway about whether or not brits harwood are brits are lazy. tom harwood are political deputy political edhohi political deputy political editor. i nearly promoted you there, of time. there, so it's a matter of time. it's of time. look, it's a matter of time. but look, some emails have been some of the emails have been coming this. i'm to coming in on this. i'm going to go into inbox we have go into the inbox before we have our on this, because our debate on this, because i was asking you whether or not you actually hand you think that actually hand on heart, completely heart, if we're being completely honest lazy honest about it, brits are lazy and don't want to do some of the jobs money. jobs for that amount of money. so are not lazy, but so no, brits are not lazy, but those who are in charge of them are workers work longer are british workers work longer hours continent and hours than on the continent and have fewer holidays but are less efficient . at there's oh, efficient. at there's known. oh, yes richard has been yes there is, richard has been in touch on that thank you in touch on that one. thank you very, there's lot in touch on that one. thank you ve this there's lot in touch on that one. thank you ve this coming there's lot in touch on that one. thank you ve this coming inthere's lot in touch on that one. thank you ve this coming in now.'s lot in touch on that one. thank you ve this coming in now. no, lot in touch on that one. thank you ve this coming in now. no, brits of this coming in now. no, brits are shy . they that are not work shy. they know that if work low paid jobs, if they work at low paid jobs, they receive less money they will receive less money than if they claim benefits. and this part the problem, this is part of the problem, which if i'm having a little which is if i'm having a little look at the wage structure now
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and got some details on and i've got some details on this, of the so not this, some of the jobs, so not just labourjobs, just the manual labour jobs, some in care some of the jobs in the care sector for example, you can now come country a come to this country and take a job for 14.5 grand. now, if you want to london and live want to come to london and live off 14.5 grand anywhere in the south, i would argue, i mean, let's be honest, 14.5 grand is still a real push up north, but you're not really to going be able to pay your own way in this country. a lot of country. so a lot of brits, i think in my personal view, before have this chat, is before we have this chat, is that , they're not they that no, they're not lazy. they just their of self just know their sense of self worth. they would expect a worth. and they would expect a government, especially a loosely speakinggovernment, to try to patriotic government, to try to create a situation where good , create a situation where good, hard working brits don't have to be by cheap foreign be undercut by cheap foreign labouh be undercut by cheap foreign labour. but joining have labour. but joining me to have a further chat about whether or not we're all a bit is the not we're all a bit lazy is the director centre for director of the centre for migration and economic prosperity. woolf migration and economic prosthe ty. woolf migration and economic prosthe vice woolf migration and economic prosthe vice president woolf migration and economic prosthe vice president of oolf migration and economic prosthe vice president of the and the vice president of the federation master builders. federation of master builders. it's carr. good stuff. i it's chris carr. good stuff. i tell you what, i will start with you, chris. if that's all right. is vice president of is the vice president of the federation builders. federation of master builders. you than most,
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you will know more than most, i think really are brits a bit lazy, are in your industry , lazy, are in your industry, people having to employ people who are coming from abroad because frankly , they will work because frankly, they will work harder and take the jobs that brits your view ? brits won't. what's your view? >> i'm sure it's lazy. i >> i'm not sure it's lazy. i think it's trying to get young people into the industry and it's selling it to the parents. you know, you're trying get you know, you're trying to get into children whose into school children whose parents know, go parents are all, you know, go to university, know, university, get a, you know, a university career. >> the best is join the >> but the best is join the construction industry and get trained they along. trained as they go along. >> not lazy. just got >> it's not lazy. we've just got to promote ourselves bit to promote ourselves a bit better. >> i'll ti- ti— >> and i'll just stick with you before i go to steve and chris, if which it if that's all right, which it must appealing. i must be very, very appealing. i would thought able to would have thought to be able to look system like this. now look at a system like this. now and say, well, i could really pay and say, well, i could really pay somebody on the continent or from africa or from india or something . 20% less than the something. 20% less than the average rate for a brit. average going rate for a brit. is tempting? chris no, is that tempting? chris no, i mean, i'm based in the north and it's just getting people to work. >> it's not in the industry . >> it's not in the industry. it's not the case of getting them for cheap labour. that's not point. you want best
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not the point. you want the best quality can get. and quality labour you can get. and at moment we can't get at the moment we can't get british quality labour for construction training construction industry training boards fms boards trying and the fms trying, but we just can't get young people in or getting people to change careers . people to change careers. >> okay, stephen, i'll throw it over to you. do you how would you respond to people who do say that? know, brits are that? look, you know, brits are lazy. willing lazy. they're not willing to take jobs, they're take these jobs, and if they're not willing to take it, then other are going to it other people are going to do it for them. it's same thing for them. it's the same thing that's happened with people like for them. it's the same thing that' pickers, fed with people like for them. it's the same thing that' pickers, for with people like for them. it's the same thing that' pickers, for example. ile like fruit pickers, for example. >> had this >> well, we've had this unfortunate nearly >> well, we've had this unfyearsate nearly >> well, we've had this uniyears that nearly >> well, we've had this uniyears that i've nearly >> well, we've had this uniyears that i've been nearly >> well, we've had this uniyears that i've been involved 20 years that i've been involved in at immigration . there in looking at immigration. there are to this. patrick are two points to this. patrick first it is enormous first of all, it is enormous snobbery for those who suggest that british workers are lazy and won't do the work for the wages. what i would say there is a very important point and it's something that chris has just mentioned there, is that they just don't like being taken advantage of, of having to work for low wages in what is really a high cost economy enemy. and if we want to look at the facts,
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patrick, some really key facts to show that british people are not lazy . currently there are 33 not lazy. currently there are 33 million people being employed in the uk. that's 76% of all those eligible to work. that's the uk. that's 76% of all those eligible to work . that's the eligible to work. that's the highest that we've ever had in this country. over 65 seconds, 1.5 million people are working economic inactivity . this is the economic inactivity. this is the point that people say shows whether we're working or not. it's been on decline and consistent decline since 1971, and we're at the lowest level . and we're at the lowest level. >> so we are facing in construction higher levels of people working as 1.2 million people working as 1.2 million people in construction. >> and i'm sure you'll guess we'll talk about that in agricul lecture. we're actually up in the number of people working in agriculture up number agriculture up in the number of people in service people working in food service is. but this is to your point , is. but this is to your point, patrick, than anything else patrick, more than anything else , the vast majority of jobs in this country in retail and this country are in retail and health and food services . that's health and food services. that's nearly 11 million people. and the average wages there are
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£20,000 a year as yeah, well, exactly. >> and i suppose the numbers do themselves. chris, you alluded to something that i'm big about here, which is about defeating this stigma and this ridiculous stigma of people who want to go and get a practical trade . now and get a practical trade. now for a lot of people who are frankly dragged into school every single day , maths, physics every single day, maths, physics , sciences , shakespeare is not , sciences, shakespeare is not for them , right? it's just not for them, right? it's just not for them, right? it's just not for them. for whatever reason . for them. for whatever reason. and the stigma would oh , be, and the stigma would oh, be, that makes you a bit thick. and that's not true at all. that's absolutely not true . there's a absolutely not true. there's a huge intelligence that absolutely not true. there's a hug�*to intelligence that absolutely not true. there's a hug�*to into intelligence that absolutely not true. there's a hug�*to into learningjence that absolutely not true. there's a hug�*to into learning a1ce that has to go into learning a practical trade and do not practical trade and do we not need to have some kind of paradigm and make it paradigm shift here and make it seem like, frankly, seem like, well, frankly, there's wrong with there's nothing wrong with actually working with actually going and working with your a living. your hands for a living. >> it's a big thing i've been pushing time. the we pushing for a long time. the we do seem to look at tradespeople as being below others in europe. they're highly respected. they're very highly respected. if you're a trades person, but one things when we do
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one of the things when we do train young people to get qualifications , they to qualifications, they have to pass maths and english to pass their maths and english to be able to get qualifications , be able to get qualifications, which i think is an absolutely crazy idea because if we're bringing foreign workers in, i'm sure they won't have to pass their maths and english to work for asking our young for us. we're asking our young people they've got to pass the maths and english they've maths and english if they've failed school failed at school, the school systems down. don't systems laid them down. don't put construction put it onto the construction industry people to industry to retrain people to learn basic maths and english. that's we're there for that's not what we're there for . people are gifted with their hands. what do. hands. people love what we do. we and we need to we live a legacy and we need to be encouraging. sort be more encouraging. those sort of the industry. of people into the industry. >> stephen the time that the >> stephen by the time that the government has decided to lower >> stephen by the time that the govwageent has decided to lower >> stephen by the time that the gov wage threshold :ided to lower >> stephen by the time that the gov wage threshold fored to lower >> stephen by the time that the gov wage threshold for foreign ner the wage threshold for foreign workers and make them pay workers and then make them pay less for a visa application , an less for a visa application, an and then presumably in some cases find them somewhere to live and support their wider family as well. can't we just be subsidising more people like chris so that they can employ more british people and train them ? them? >> oh, absolutely . i mean, we
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>> oh, absolutely. i mean, we have got this all the way wrong. chris has pointed out to a very clear point, which is about the inequalities and differences between employing a foreign worker compared to training those in the uk. we just have not done it because of the snobbery levels are snobbery levels that are involved training people . if involved in training people. if you to be really you wanted to be really effective on first all, effective on this, first of all, i would remove all taxation for those in the lower wage industries such as food services, such as those employed in the building industries like chris. if you remove that , chris. if you remove that, suddenly you've got a very, very big competitive advantage for someone saying, well, hang on a minute, i want to go and do a different job, but i'm not having tax until, say, having to pay tax until, say, £40,000, example . well, and £40,000, for example. well, and that would be a massive fillip for some of those jobs where they're currently not finding enough people to work in. i would also straight away change the imbalance to the way that we look at those being employed in, say, the building and construction industry, which is what a lot of family have what a lot of my family have done of their lives , done for most of their lives, and that is removing those
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inequalities that has inequalities that chris has pointed are very pointed out. there are very clear taxation, regulatory and training impetuses that we could do to if we wanted to make the balance. and i certainly don't think that the drive for foreign workers is being caused by people like chris. it's being dnven people like chris. it's being driven by the companies like amazon and the very major companies like sainsbury's and tesco's who are looking for low wage workers to come into this country. now >> indeed. and chris, look, while i've got you, could you maybe just try to sell it to people who may be watching this at the moment and thinking, you know, i actually would quite like to get the federation like to get into the federation of master builders. come on, i'll give you the big sell. it >> well, it was a great trade association, but that's not what i'm here for, is really to promote the industry and the industry. my industry. you know, my bricklayers out of bed bricklayers won't get out of bed for less £1,000 week. and for less than £1,000 a week. and when talking about 20,000 for less than £1,000 a week. and when and talking about 20,000 for less than £1,000 a week. and when and i'mlking about 20,000 for less than £1,000 a week. and when and i'm based bout 20,000 for less than £1,000 a week. and when and i'm based up|t 20,000 for less than £1,000 a week. and when and i'm based up in20,000 a year and i'm based up in grimsby, you know, i'm based in a low cost area. if a fairly low cost area. and if you're on, know 52,000 a you're on, you know 52,000 a yeah you're on, you know 52,000 a
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year, you can afford to live a good lifestyle. um, and it's a trade for life and it's what we keep saying to the parents. we leave a legacy, we build something that's going to be there years time. there a hundred years time. there's industry leaves there a hundred years time. thersort industry leaves there a hundred years time. ther sort of industry leaves there a hundred years time. thersort of legacy.1ustry leaves there a hundred years time. ther sort of legacy. ifstry leaves there a hundred years time. ther sort of legacy. if youleaves there a hundred years time. ther sort of legacy. if you wants that sort of legacy. if you want your children to be part of the legacy, part the build, you legacy, part of the build, you know, and this is what know, the uk and this is what they them to join encouraging them to join the construction tradesperson. >> absolutely . and especially >> absolutely. and especially when we're slap bang in the middle housing at middle of a housing crisis at the moment , middle of a housing crisis at the moment, britain is primed and ready to go the and ready to go with the handbrake boom. if we get handbrake on to boom. if we get things our things right and if our politicians pull finger politicians pull their finger out. think should be out. and i think we should be doing everything that we can to incentivise people, to mobilise them, be a part of that. and them, to be a part of that. and like said there, leave like you said there, leave a wonderful legacy. both of you, thank much, chaps. thank you very much, chaps. always pleasure. always an absolute pleasure. that the director that is, of course, the director of for migration of the centre for migration and economic prosperity, stephen wolf, vice president of economic prosperity, stephen wolfederation vice president of economic prosperity, stephen wolfederation ofe president of economic prosperity, stephen wolfederation of masterient of the federation of master builders, who builders, chris carr, who i think a fantastic, think gave it a fantastic, fabulous sell. actually and a lot parents out there, if lot of parents out there, if they're saying, no, i don't want my be a bricklayer, well, my son to be a bricklayer, well, i'm but 52 grand i'm sorry, but why not 52 grand a sounds all right i'm sorry, but why not 52 grand
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a me. sounds all right i'm sorry, but why not 52 grand a me. vaiews@gbnews.com.'ight i'm sorry, but why not 52 grand a me. vaiews@gbnews.com. but to me. vaiews@gbnews.com. but get load of this. this has got get a load of this. this has got you going inbox. a you all going in the inbox. a muslim billionaire is building a mosque that accommodate mosque that will accommodate almost 400 right in the almost 400 people right in the middle of london's west end . it middle of london's west end. it has caused, needless to say , has caused, needless to say, quite a lot of controversy. patrick christys on gb news, britain's
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government's decision to relax those visa rules for construction workers. and fascinating stuff coming the fascinating stuff coming in the inbox. that about inbox. i'll go to that about whether or not brits are lazy and some people getting in touch to give their personal insight, saying their own son or saying that their own son or daughter get daughter is trying to get an apprenticeship. so apprenticeship. et cetera. so that fascinating. talk that is fascinating. i'll talk about i'll also about that shortly. i'll also ask bbc licence fee ask whether the bbc licence fee could be ditched and replaced with a netflix style subscription advertising subscription or even advertising that's light of the ongoing that's in light of the ongoing fallout from the huw edwards saga. but also the bbc grilling that appears to be taking place at the but it this is a at the moment. but it this is a story that's got a lot of you going. a huge mosque about to going. a huge mosque is about to be built in the middle of london's end. so muslim london's west end. so muslim billionaire asif aziz is going to build a three storey mosque inside the trocadero. so when it's finished at almost 400, people will be able to worship there . now, this malawian born there. now, this malawian born tycoon, so he owns this property portfolio around £2 billion. this is according to reports, of
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course. now, he bought the trocadero itself for more than £220 million back in 2005. and he's founding the mosque through his charitable organisations . it his charitable organisations. it is interesting, though, because if you just do a cursory google of this guy, no he would of this guy, no doubt he would deny this, but he is deemed in many articles to be a pretty harsh landlord to say the least. threatening to bankrupt people who've got into rent arrears, especially during the lockdown. et cetera. again, you know , no et cetera. again, you know, no doubt he would dispute this and just business or just say it's all business or whatever, these are the kind whatever, but these are the kind of are coming out of things that are coming out which quite chime which maybe doesn't quite chime with good, overt, with this good, overt, moralistic wants moralistic individual who wants to mosque right in to slap a mosque right in the middle london's west end. so middle of london's west end. so it got me thinking, though, is this appropriate ? wait, this really appropriate? wait, so this is obviously a huge tourist area. it's an area full of theatre goers and people who want to come there. there's a huge lgbt plus representation. there are no shortage of mosques in london or any major in london or indeed any major city in the uk as it currently
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stands , as do we really need to stands, as do we really need to have a ginormous space there? and i want to know what you guys are thinking about this. gb views gbnews.com. patrick i'm surprised that this is happening. why do you think it's happening? and this is from david. david alludes to the idea that potentially sadiq khan could be looking to get could well be looking to get another term as london mayor. this will of course have had to have gone through variety of have gone through a variety of different applications have gone through a variety of diffecetera. applications have gone through a variety of diffe cetera. not.ications have gone through a variety of diffe cetera. not 100% 1s . et cetera. so i'm not 100% sure involvement. sadiq sure how much involvement. sadiq will had will have personally had in all of a lot of of this. but yeah, a lot of people that this is an people saying that this is an absolute outrage. it doesn't really chime with local really chime in with the local area. like i've said before, there huge of there are a huge amount of people, course, the people, of course, around the area would but there area who would use it, but there area who would use it, but there are mostly regent's area who would use it, but there are mosque, ly regent's area who would use it, but there are mosque, etcetera gent's area who would use it, but there are mosque, etcetera .ent's area who would use it, but there are mosque, etcetera . |tl's area who would use it, but there are mosque, etcetera . i just park mosque, etcetera. i just wonder whether or not we're being a bit here being trolled a little bit here as country, whether or not as a country, whether or not this kind top this is actually kind of top trolling by some very wealthy elements british muslim elements of the british muslim community here. we right in community here. we are right in an you could argue an area that you could argue embodies western embodies traditional western nightlife, you know, right there in piccadilly. and we're going to have a giant mosque there that can house around 400
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worshippers at any one time. will it irreversibly change the area, though ? and that i think area, though? and that i think for a lot of people is the issue. when you have a look around certain different parts issue. when you have a look aro say certain different parts issue. when you have a look aro say , ertain different parts issue. when you have a look aro say , birmingham,1t parts issue. when you have a look aro say , birmingham, russia, of, say, birmingham, russia, around manchester, i mean you could take your pick. bradford for example, how have those areas irreversibly changed for example, how have those arerapid irreversibly changed for example, how have those are rapid proportionsly changed for example, how have those are rapid proportions of changed for example, how have those arerapid proportions of islam ad for example, how have those arerapid proportions of islam ,i by rapid proportions of islam, islamic involvements in those areas? well, yeah, i suppose culturally they definitely have. and you see the kind of cultural and religious aspects of those areas change is that what's happening right in london? happening right now in london? has happened well? has it already happened as well? and maybe if you're not and actually maybe if you're not bothered it, get bothered about it, you can get in well. gb views in touch as well. gb views gb news dot com. but a lot of people are saying this is actually frankly going to change the irreversibly . and when actually frankly going to change the lookirreversibly . and when actually frankly going to change the look at eversibly . and when actually frankly going to change the look at the ;ibly . and when actually frankly going to change the look at the cultural|d when you look at the cultural situation that we have, loads situation that we have, so loads of people going out on nights out and a of you could argue out and a lot of you could argue hedonism, does it really chime with this the best area with that? is this the best area for it? vaiews@gbnews.com but there's loads more still to come between news between now and 5:00 and gb news reveals that at least 450 people have crossed the channel on
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small today. bear mind small boats today. bear in mind that the bibby stockholm, which is that migrant barge is there in does actually only in portland, does actually only house 500 people. that's almost been filled in a day by close of play. today, it would have been filled , wouldn't it was filled, wouldn't it, if it was tasked housing everybody filled, wouldn't it, if it was taskeccome housing everybody filled, wouldn't it, if it was taskec come housithe everybody filled, wouldn't it, if it was taskeccome housithe channel. but who's come over the channel. but the illegal migration bill it won night, lords backed won last night, the lords backed down. welby decided down. archbishop welby decided that he was going to throw the towel okay, but what towel in. well, okay, but what happens next? will it actually work? that's what everyone wants to and will be to know. and i will be explaining of that very, explaining all of that very, very shortly. but right now, it is your headlines with is time for your headlines with paul . paul coyte. >> patrick, thank you. the top stories this hour. the bbc's director general told a committee today that staff at his corporation are confident in the broadcaster's whistleblowing process . us tim davie confirmed process. us tim davie confirmed the organisation has been in touch with the complainant , who touch with the complainant, who alleged huw edwards paid a young person for explicit images . gb person for explicit images. gb news understands 450 people have
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crossed the english channel in nine small boats. this morning. the news coming as the first group of asylum seekers are to be moved to a migrant barge. current docked off portland in dorset next week . the home dorset next week. the home secretary says the risk of a terror attack in the uk is on the rise. suella braverman has identified islamist terrorism as the primary uk domestic threat. she also confirmed northern ireland related terrorism remains a threat, with some dissident groups continuing to carry out attacks . more on all carry out attacks. more on all those stories . head to carry out attacks. more on all those stories. head to our website gbnews.com . website gbnews.com. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar the proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. hello again. >> it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . rain for many of the met office with the gb news forecast. rain for many of us at the moment and through the rest of the day showers for some and
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in 1 or 2 spots it is dry and bright, but the rain or showers do ease later as this little weather feature moves through, it's going to push into the nonh it's going to push into the north sea. by the end of the day, peace going away. the rain from southern scotland, northern ireland, northern and central england . still some showery england. still some showery bursts for northern and eastern england for a time and also some showers arriving into the north and northwest scotland, and northwest of scotland, northern clear northern ireland, but clear spells there. however, spells elsewhere there. however, a more around and a bit more cloud around and slightly air with us. so slightly milder air with us. so a less cool night, 1516 in the south. i think single figures still though, for scotland and northern ireland. that's where the best of the sunshine will be first thing on wednesday morning. there'll be morning. and also there'll be some sunny spells for wales southwest england, a lot of cloud elsewhere and early cloud elsewhere and the early rainfall in the east turns to showers widely, actually will see an afternoon of sunny spells and showers. but in between in the showers, there will be some warmth in the sun. 23 celsius in the south, 18 to 20 in the
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north. the showers heaviest in the east. thursday sees return to sunny spells and showers for many. but i think a better chance of drier and brighter interludes at times. likewise friday, a day of sunny spells and showers before some more persistent rain arrives from the northwest later. and that will be with us this weekend . be with us this weekend. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . on. gb news. >> well, thousands of foreign construction workers are set to move to britain after the government relaxed visa restrictions carpenters, restrictions. carpenters, bricklayers, they're bricklayers, roofers, they're among those will be allowed among those who will be allowed to visas get to apply for work visas and get a discount fees in a bid to a discount on fees in a bid to fill the uk job shortages . here fill the uk job shortages. here to all of this, am to discuss all of this, i am joined by the conservative mp sir john hayes. sirjohn, thank sirjohn hayes. sirjohn, thank you much. our top you very much. this is our top story today, mainly because it does appear to fly in the face
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of the government's promises to reduce migration and specifically low skilled migration. how would you respond to that ? to that? >> i agree with you . >> i agree with you. >> i agree with you. >> i agree with you. >> i think it's incompatible with the desire to drive down migrant numbers, but also in a way more fundamentally incompatible with our need to encourage more people to acquire those kind of practical, vocational and technical skills. >> we want to build a workforce fit for the future, and that means training britons to do the very jobs you've just described i >> -- >> and now, sir john, >> and now, sirjohn, something that in, dare say it with that ties in, dare i say it with a i just earlier on a story i just did earlier on about this mosque being about this big mosque being opened on the west end. but opened up on the west end. but an gone under the an issue that's gone under the radar for me when comes to radar for me when it comes to relaxing the migrant visa rules, especially for non eu countries, is that it will help contribute to a rapid cultural change in britain and rapid demographic change in britain. is that something the government should also be considering ? well he
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also be considering? well he should certainly consider the net migration numbers. >> so if you introduce something like . 600,000 people a year into like. 600,000 people a year into the country, which is what we did last year, the net migration figures were 600,000. >> that is bound to both change the shape of the country , but the shape of the country, but also put unforeseen ausable irreversi possible changes in terms of the pressure on public services . what i mean by that services. what i mean by that 600,000 people are to be accommodated . accommodated. >> imagine that for ten >> imagine doing that for ten years. that's million people, years. that's 6 million people, which mean building many which would mean building many large cities. so you're right, there are social consequences to this economic consequences are that you're not equipping britain to be the high tech , britain to be the high tech, high skilled country it needs to be to compete in the future . be to compete in the future. >> why are we doing this ? >> why are we doing this? >> why are we doing this? >> we're doing it because we train too few people around. i've argued for a very long time with the shadow skills minister. i then the skills minister i was then the skills minister from we need to build more from 2010. we need to build more vocational and practical skills.
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>> i boosted number of >> i boosted the number of apprenticeships i was apprenticeships when i was the minister considerably minister very considerably, but we do more. we need to do more. >> ironically the prime >> and ironically the prime minister that himself minister said that himself yesterday. said we need more yesterday. he said we need more high apprenticeships. high quality apprenticeships. exactly we do. we need to encourage more people to acquire skills deliver personal skills which deliver personal fulfilment and meet an fulfilment to them and meet an economic need . economic need. >> do we have to accept maybe that britain, as many people are writing in my inbox right now in front of me, that britain as we know it or knew it , is gone front of me, that britain as we know it or knew it, is gone? >> i don't buy that. i think it's important that we retain all the best of what britain has been to shape a future which is even greater. i'm an optimist, but i'm a realist. >> and realistically, we can't continue to support this kind of level of immigration and build the better britain we want. >> so those two things can't be reconciled. we need, of course, all advanced countries that people coming and going. that's the nature an advanced
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the nature of an advanced economy , but not in these economy, but not in these numbers and not displace investment in recruitment in skilling and retaining the right workforce. that's what we need to do. we need to do it urgently i >> -- >> is this potentially just a very underhand way of trying to drive down inflation by artificially keeping wages low . artificially keeping wages low. >> i think it's a way of growing the economy. the treasury and this slightly odd migration advisory committee, i think they should be called the myopic migration advisory committee. >> by way, what they seem to >> by the way, what they seem to think all growth is good think is all growth is good growth. you increase the growth. so if you increase the population, the population, you grow the economy, but that's not growing per capita. improvements per capita. the improvements to the capita growth is the economy per capita growth is what counts , and neither what really counts, and neither is preparing the workforce is it preparing the workforce and the economy for the future . and the economy for the future. so you grow the so yes, you can grow the population and thereby grow the economy simple terms, but economy in simple terms, but it's not good because you stultify the economy in a dependence on imported labour. and that's bad economics . yes,
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and that's bad economics. yes, it's bad politics. and it's certainly bad for a society . certainly bad for a society. well, indeed , i suppose one of well, indeed, i suppose one of the massive problems that rishi sunakis the massive problems that rishi sunak is going to face is that it's 51 days since the new conservatives came up and tried to issue a new policy when it comes to migration and gave a very stark warning, which was that they think that you guys might take an absolute kicking if rishi sunak doesn't do something about that. >> and then 15 days on from that , we are going to offer employers in this country the chance to employ people from all over the world for 80. so a 20% reduction from what they would have to pay brits. and it doesn't appear to be much of an incentive to. well back british at the moment, which from a patriotic brexit backing party, frankly it just seems like a bit of a balls up . of a balls up. >> well, we should buy british and we should back britain. you're absolutely right in relation to the two points you made. i mean, i'm involved with the new conservatives, of course
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. think i'm president of the . i think i'm president of the new so i'm new conservatives. so i'm closely with closely associated with the paper written by my paper you describe written by my great hunt. so he great friend tom hunt. so he pointed out some of the things i've said to you this i've said to you in this interview can't grow interview that you can't grow the population through legal migration at the pace we are without dire consequences for society and for the economy. but the other point you make is about the character of the pledge we made to british people, both during the brexit referendum and the 19 election. people voted to take back control . now it's true we now control. now it's true we now control. now it's true we now control immigration policy. but when they did so, they assumed that meant controlling it to bnng that meant controlling it to bring down immigration. that's what the governments do. it's not only because it's politically popular power, but also because it's the right thing to do. and doing what's right matters most. >> look, sirjohn, right matters most. >> look, sir john, thank you very much. an absolute pleasure. i really appreciate you taking the time out your day to come the time out of your day to come on and chat with us. sir on and have a chat with us. sir john there. he's john hayes there. he's a conservative well that conservative mp. well look, that was of things. was the legal side of things. this illegal side of
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this is the illegal side of things. and that's what some good for sunak good news for rishi sunak because migration because the illegal migration bill approved by the bill was finally approved by the house of lords. it's the centrepiece of the government's plans small boats plans to solve the small boats crisis. had dealt crisis. piers had dealt a succession of blows to bill, succession of blows to the bill, but tory frontbench off but the tory frontbench saw off five from the five further changes from the lords last night and it is now set to become law. but, but, but what does all of this really mean? because kind of a key cornerstone of it is the rwanda plan. well, that's in court, isn't it? he's been every isn't it? he's been caught every two minutes. joined two minutes. i'm joined by jeremy hutton from migrationwatch, jeremy thank migrationwatch, uk. jeremy thank you much. what now ? you very, very much. what now? >> hi, patrick. well, the next step, of course, i think will be royal assent, but ultimately, onceit royal assent, but ultimately, once it actually gets onto the statute books, that doesn't mean we're suddenly we're going to be suddenly sending to rwanda sending people off to rwanda because the government because of course the government was court of was defeated in the court of appeal so it's appeal quite recently. so it's going to go to the supreme court. we don't know exactly when. it could be september or october, sooner, but october, possibly sooner, but it's going to around it's probably going to be around then. then, of course, then. and after then, of course, assuming win, assuming the government win, which is, you know, not an assumption, should put too which is, you know, not an assunmoney should put too which is, you know, not an assun money on, hould put too which is, you know, not an assunmoney on, it»uld put too which is, you know, not an assun money on, it coulth too which is, you know, not an assun money on, it could then go
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much money on, it could then go to court of human to the european court of human rights, the rights, at which point the government to decide, rights, at which point the gorwelment to decide, rights, at which point the gorwe want to decide, rights, at which point the gorwe want to to decide, rights, at which point the gorwe want to go to decide, rights, at which point the gorwe want to go forward iecide, rights, at which point the gorwe want to go forward with e, do we want to go forward with the bill or do we want to ignore the bill or do we want to ignore the european court and just just get and get people through and start creating deterrent effect creating this deterrent effect so making these so people stop making these dangerous across the channel. >> but it does, however , appear >> but it does, however, appear that least in the short term, that at least in the short term, that at least in the short term, that seen, that sense has been seen, doesn't which is that it's doesn't it? which is that it's all very good trying to all very well and good trying to find legal problems or practical issues with a government policy that has received big public backing, that has received backing, that has received backing in the house of commons from a majority government? it's a completely kettle of a completely different kettle of fish to hit back with fish trying to hit back with totally which totally new policies, which is essentially what the house of lords was trying to do. and people, in chief like people, wreckers in chief like archbishop justin welby , the archbishop justin welby, the archbishop justin welby, the archbishop of canterbury . it archbishop of canterbury. it appears now that at least sense has been in regard, has been seen in that regard, because otherwise , frankly, we because otherwise, frankly, we were to have to abolish were going to have to abolish the lords . the house of lords. >> well, it did seem like the house of lords has come to accept the fact that if they had kept pushing back on the government against this bill,
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they would have been putting themselves impossible themselves in an impossible position happens now and position which happens now and then. but usually when it comes down to the house of commons versus it's the versus house of lords, it's the house lords that blinks first house of lords that blinks first because they that they because they know that if they if stick their guns, if they stick to their guns, well, might lose their well, they might lose their seats which seats entirely, which, which actually makes it all the more pathetic all that has pathetic because all that has happened up with happened is that we end up with dither and delay and more people arrive and the problem gets w0 i'se. woi'se. >> worse. >> and while some people can stand in the house of lords, stand up in the house of lords, they in for however much they tap in for however much money day they get the money is every day they get the subsidised there, they subsidised transport there, they get meals. get the subsidised meals. oh, it's isn't it? it's a lovely life, isn't it? it's a great, lovely, cushy deal if can get it. i'm pretty if you can get it. i'm pretty sure at least 2 or 3 of those people that our tv viewers will be able to on benches be able to see on those benches now asleep, dozing now are fast asleep, dozing away, over away, dribbled all over themselves because they've had a couple chateauneuf couple of glasses of chateauneuf du pape at lunch. isn't it all fantastic? meanwhile the country suffers . and you know what? if suffers. and you know what? if they were just going to back out of anyway, what was the of it anyway, then what was the point? wasted load point? we've wasted a load of time, you very time, but jeremy, thank you very much. hutson from much. jeremy hutson from migration always an
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migration watch uk. always an honour privilege in honour and a privilege right? in the senior bbc bosses the last hour, senior bbc bosses have questions on have been facing questions on how the corporation handled the allegations against hugh elle edwards. are also facing edwards. they are also facing now serious questions about the licence fee model. will it move to subscription ? what will to subscription? what will happen there? patrick christys on gb news. and we are britain's news .
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>> yes, well, loads to go . i am >> yes, well, loads to go. i am going to be asking very shortly why do all of the people coming across the channel appear to be men ? but we'll have more of men? but we'll have more of a chat about that later on. the fallout from the huw edwards scandal rumbles scandal continue as it rumbles on. bbc's director general, on. the bbc's director general, tim is among a number of tim davie, is among a number of senior officials who were questioned we're questioned by mps today. we're going to have a chat about that for the latest facts on it, and then going to move the then we're going to move the discussion on and about a discussion on and talk about a staff survey at the bbc, apparently, supposedly apparently, which supposedly means number means that quite a large number of trust their of them do not trust their complaints procedure, but also as licence issue as well, this licence fee issue , or it can survive , whether or not it can survive and on own two feet and stand on its own two feet without me and everyone we without you, me and everyone we know prop up. but know having to prop it up. but i'm in the studio now for i'm joined in the studio now for the first bit of this chat by gb news national reporter paul hawkins. grilling, hawkins. so the grilling, what happened ? happened? >> yeah, i'm always wary to use the term grilling this is the house of lords committee , so house of lords committee, so it's more of a sort really than the kind of grilling you get
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from the committees and the house of commons as the lords communications committee. this was a scheduled hearing. this wasn't a specially convened one because of edwards because of the elle edwards situation . was going situation. it was always going to anyway. top of to happen anyway. but top of their questions about to happen anyway. but top of theirthe questions about to happen anyway. but top of theirthe bbc questions about to happen anyway. but top of theirthe bbc dealt;tions about to happen anyway. but top of theirthe bbc dealt with. about to happen anyway. but top of theirthe bbc dealt with huw1t how the bbc dealt with huw edwards. so appearing before the committee, he director committee, he was the director general. the general. tim davie, also the acting , dame ellen closs acting chair, dame ellen closs stevens , and the director of stevens, and the director of policy, claire sumner. they answered questions about how the investigation is going, going and what we learned this afternoon was that the bbc has beenin afternoon was that the bbc has been in contact with the complainant in the huw edwards case, but he could only go so far, he said in discussing details due to concerns over privacy. and he also gave this update on where we are in terms of timescales with the investigation . investigation. >> we are in the process of looking at those facts and i would say we're keen to receive any information because we just want to understand anything that's out there . it's difficult that's out there. it's difficult to give you a precise time on that. the reason is because you
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have to go through that diligently, assess the information. there's also duty of care concerns within that. so on that one, specifically, because i'm not in control of all the variables, that could take weeks or it could take a couple of months, depending on or even longer, depending on what we get and managing the individuals involved flawlessly . and i and my main priority is, to be fair , to make sure we get to be fair, to make sure we get all the information into that process and act judiciously. >> so to be clear, we're still in the planning stages of this investigation. so the chief operating officer, operating officer will take charge along with a senior partner at a company called deloitte . um they company called deloitte. um they will publish the full terms of they'll put the full terms of reference for this to the board. they'll vote on it. they'll then pubush they'll vote on it. they'll then publish that thursday and publish that on thursday and then inquiry will get then an inquiry will get underway soon possible. underway as soon as possible. just also during just very quickly also during this afternoon's session , tim this afternoon's session, tim davie was asked how allegations
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against well—known presenters are handled and he said the history of this industry is such that we should all be concerned, adding that the bbc needs to be appropriately delivered isn't about of people in about abuse of people in powerful positions. have powerful positions. we have a good process for handling internal complaints, he said, adding noting the establishment of a whistleblowing process . i of a whistleblowing process. i know you're about to talk about a bbc survey. we've got most people very confident on it. but he admits there are still gaps in it support. >> thank you very, very much. paul hawkins , our national paul hawkins, our national reporter. right well, it has been reported that the way the bbc is funded is set to be reviewed with the future of the licence fee in doubt. this rears its head all the time, doesn't it? kind of stuff. it? this kind of stuff. but maybe more than ever, maybe now, more so than ever, you living crisis you know, cost of living crisis as were. everything as it were. everything that's been the bbc. do you been going on at the bbc. do you really want to have pay for really want to have to pay for it? they talk about, well, really want to have to pay for it? can they talk about, well, really want to have to pay for it? can take talk about, well, really want to have to pay for it? can take more about, well, really want to have to pay for it? can take more creative ell, really want to have to pay for it? can take more creative risks we can take more creative risks if we're not, you know, at the mercy of advertisers, essentially. but while those creative risks really be, you know, is it just something else
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about drag queens? but worryingly for the bbc, though, it's emerged 38% of its staff don't the corporation's don't trust the corporation's complaints process here to pick the bones out of this one is former correspondent in former bbc correspondent in friend friend of friend of the show, friend of the it's michael cole. the channel. it's michael cole. michael, thank you very, very much. first things much. well look, first things first. bbc survey shock. first. a bbc staff survey shock. does shock you ? does it shock you? >> well, that is quite interesting . interesting. >> uh, there is certainly a history here, patrick, because tim davies talking about being proud of the code code of conduct and being behind the whistleblower thing , ability of whistleblower thing, ability of people to call out things that are wrong . are wrong. >> but we don't have to think too far back to remember that newsnight investigation and expose of jimmy saville was suppressed. >> it was not put on the air. >> it was not put on the air. >> it was pulled because it would have clashed with a tribute to jimmy savile that was going out at christmas time. >> now we can't have both those
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things at the same time. >> tim davie , i thought, looked >> tim davie, i thought, looked rather uncomfortable there. >> and frankly , he out of his >> and frankly, he out of his depth because he says that the corporation is now in touch with the family of this troubled young man . young man. >> but of course , between the >> but of course, between the time that his mother made the first complaint and six weeks later, the bbc made two desultory attempts to get in touch with them and failed to do so. and it was only when they acted only when the sun put the allegations to them and that was only one day after , uh, huw only one day after, uh, huw edwards has been on the air in edinburgh and a very important stage occasion commenting . stage occasion commenting. >> you know, look, this is live broadcast . you and i are brought broadcast. you and i are brought casting live at the moment. we could say anything we liked and here we had the lead , the face here we had the lead, the face of the bbc, the lead commentator who was apparently suffering very severe mental health
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problems. so severe that he had to go straight into hospital when the scandal broke. >> and yet, you know, he was there and he was talking about his depression. >> he was talking about his insomnia , was talking about his insomnia, was talking about his migraines . insomnia, was talking about his migraines. in interviews, he was saying strange things like, i want to be i want to be i want to be, uh , piers morgan , uh, and to be, uh, piers morgan, uh, and nobody was noticing who were the manager who should have been saying, what is wrong with this guy? >> and yet he was on air. i mean , if british airways had a pilot who was showing clear signs of mental turmoil and they allowed him to fly 350 people to new york and he crashed. >> my goodness , they would be >> my goodness, they would be rightly castigated and the airline will probably go out of business. >> so who is actually in charge on the flight deck of starship bbc? >> yeah , i think it is. i think >> yeah, i think it is. i think it is really interesting when it comes as well to the bbc.
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basically openly saying, well, we are allowed to take more commercial risks if we don't have operate a commercial have to operate in a commercial environment. way of environment. that's one way of putting i would also argue putting it. i would also argue that you don't actually the that you don't actually face the pressure to produce pressure of having to produce content viewers content that your viewers actually and that actually want to see, and that is massive, massive is another massive, massive problem. but michael, i'm afraid i'm about we have i'm so sorry about this. we have overrun bit, we're overrun a little bit, so we're going to a day going to have to call it a day there. but you sound like a man in demand i could hear in demand anyway. i could hear your there, your phone going off there, so i'm you'll getting in. i'm sure you'll be getting in. i'm sure you'll be getting in. i'm sorry about that. you'll be getting job in getting anotherjob in just a moment's time. don't worry, michael cole. thank you. i'll talk you longer next talk to you for longer next time. it's michael cole there, of the former bbc of course. the former bbc presenter and correspondent, i should of interesting should say. loads of interesting stuff coming in the inbox here, especially relation that especially in relation to that big opening up big mosque that's opening up on the lot people the west end. a lot of people saying, are saying, patrick, we are a christian country. fine. christian country. yeah, fine. but of england not but as the church of england not gone and is not going gone woke and is it not going broke? not a visible broke? is that not a visible sign perhaps why some sign of perhaps why some elements of the muslim community are whereas are on the rise, whereas elements of the christian community this feel community in this country feel a little bit but a reminder little bit lost, but a reminder of news that earlier of that news that broke earlier in chunnel boat in the show, 450 chunnel boat crossings we'll you crossings today. we'll bring you all very,
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all the latest on that very, very shortly. be very shortly. and i will be asking why, oh, why do asking why oh, why, oh, why do they all seem to be young men? patrick kwasi gb britain's patrick kwasi gb news britain's news temperature's >> the temperature's rising. boxt proud sponsors of boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. rain for many of us at the moment and through the rest of the day, showers for some time and in 1 or 2 spots it is dry and bright, but the rain or showers do ease. later as this little weather feature moves through, it's going to push into the north sea by the end of the day, peeling away the rain from southern scotland, northern ireland, northern and central england. still some showery bursts for northern and eastern england for a time and also some showers arriving into the north and northwest of scotland, northern ireland. but clear spells however, a bit spells elsewhere, however, a bit more slightly more cloud around and slightly milder air with us. so a less cool night, 1516 in the south, i think single figures still though, for scotland and
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gb news big final hour coming your way with me, patrick christys right here on gb news >> what i want to know is why is it just men who appear to be coming across the channel and now occupying all of these new migrant facilities? where are all the women and children who are in desperate need of asylum and refuge? are we drilling down on that? in other news, we're going to be talking about this
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anjem chaudry has reportedly been terror been arrested for a terror offence. we'll you up to offence. we'll bring you up to date with that and also tie in the terrorism the state of play for terrorism in the uk as it currently stands now. keir starmer well, one minute he's riding high in the polls. we have these by elections coming up, don't we? but actually facing an but is he actually facing an internal inside? internal revolt from inside? they're talking about u—turn they're talking about one u—turn too this time and they're too many. this time and they're wondering or not even a wondering whether or not even a senior member of the shadow cabinet be about to quit cabinet might be about to quit over shocking true over its shocking stuff. if true and finally, let's round the hour off with this. yes, this was a huge controversy at the time. massively divided the british public almost straight down the middle, a lady who was sent jail after basically sent to jail after basically carrying out a very close to full term abortion at home, has now been freed from jail after, well, what, just a couple of weeks, really? just a few weeks. it really opens up this particular kind of worms again, which we will, of course, be discuss seeing patrick christys on britain's news.
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on gb news britain's news. channel yes. well, polly, with your headlines in just a sack, but get those emails coming in thick and fast. gb views gbnews.com. and we'll be looking at whether or not actually at whether or not we actually are accepting too many are accepting in far too many men coming the channel men coming across the channel why and those why that is and keep those emails about why you emails coming in about why you are you are opposed to a big are if you are opposed to a big new mosque in central london, people are saying, well , we're people are saying, well, we're still a christian country. are we still a christian country? gb views a gbnews.com headlines now i >> patrick, thank you and good evening to you. our top stories this hour. the bbc's director general has told a parliament committee that staff at his corporation are confident in the broadcaster's whistleblowing process . yes, the house of lords process. yes, the house of lords communications and digital committee asked tim davie why the organisation didn't take allegations against its most highly paid news presenter. more seriously and much sooner. the bbc boss confirmed that the
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organisation has been in touch with the complainant who alleged huw edwards paid a young person for explicit images. since the allegations were published in the sun. tim davie says the investigation could take a while to reach its conclusion . to reach its conclusion. >> in it's difficult to give you a precise time on that. the reason is because you have to go through that diligently , assess through that diligently, assess the information. there's also duty of care concerns within that. so on that one, specifically, because i'm not in control of all the variables , control of all the variables, that could take weeks or it could take a couple of months, depending on or even longer, depending on or even longer, depending on or even longer, depending on what we get and managing individual files managing the individual files involved flawlessly . and i and involved flawlessly. and i and my main priority is, to be fair , to make sure we get all the information into that process and act judiciously. information into that process and act judiciously . gb news and act judiciously. gb news understands 450 people have crossed the english channel in nine small boats today . nine small boats today. >> the news comes as the first group of asylum seekers will be moved to a migrant barge
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currently docked in portland in dorset next week . the bibby dorset next week. the bibby stockholm, as its named, will be used to house single male asylum seekers as part of the government's plan to reduce the cost of housing them in hotels . cost of housing them in hotels. local residents are calling for the barge to be moved elsewhere and say that protesters at the scene aren't even from their area. the secretary for energy security and net zero grant shapps says the key priority is to control the uk's borders . to control the uk's borders. >> it's incredibly important that government has control over who comes to the country . last who comes to the country. last night we passed a milestone by finally defeating labour both in the house of commons and the house of lords, who have voted dozens and dozens of times against it. a bill designed to stop the small boats. we are trying to make sure that we can control our borders and that is the difference between a conservative government who want to control borders and to control our borders and a labour government who simply have answer . have no answer. >> the home secretary says the
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risk of a terror attack in the uk is on the rise. speaking in westminster today, suella braverman identified islamist terrorism as the primary uk domestic threat. ms braverman also confirmed northern ireland related terrorism remained a threat with some dissident groups continuing to plan attacks. the home secretary warned of russia as well . and warned of russia as well. and iran and china. but warned of russia as well. and iran and china . but referring to iran and china. but referring to russia as the most pressing national security concern , an national security concern, an terrorist attacks are becoming increasingly unpredict able, making them harder to detect and investigate . investigate. >> today, unlike in previous years, terrorist movements are increasingly fragmented and disparate, and there are emerging threats from the extreme right and from abroad . extreme right and from abroad. >> despite the prevalence of lower sophistication attacks in the uk, the threat today is more diverse , dynamic and complex .
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diverse, dynamic and complex. >> suella braverman now the former manchester united footballer ryan giggs says he's relieved at being cleared of domestic violence allegations after charges against him were dropped. the 49 year old was due to stand trial for a second time, accused of control or coercive behaviour towards his ex girlfriend, kate greville. but lawyers have withdrawn the prosecution on ryan giggs denies the offences and his previous trial ended last august , with trial ended last august, with the jury failing to reach a verdict . a us national has verdict. a us national has crossed the border from south to nonh crossed the border from south to north korea and is being held in the north. that's according to the north. that's according to the united nations. us officials say the individual is a member of the us military who was taking part in a tour of the joint security area and crossed the military demarcation line separating the two koreas. the eu is sending firefighting planes to greece as the country attempts to tackle wildfires due
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to an extreme summer heatwave being felt across southern europe . british holiday europe. british holiday destinations such as spain, italy, greece and parts of the balkans are also being hit with very high temperatures. the greek prime minister is cutting short his trip to brussels to oversee government activities as the fires rage and smoke from the fires rage and smoke from the fires rage and smoke from the fires are so widespread they can be seen from space. a solution . to the 2026 solution. to the 2026 commonwealth games no longer being held in victoria. australia can be found and the idea that the uk could host the games is premature just yet, says number 10. the state of victoria decided to withdraw as host of the 2026 games because it worked out too expensive of costing more than £3 billion three times more than they had originally expected . and that's originally expected. and that's it from me in the newsroom. more news as it happens. back now to
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. patrick we when it comes to the channel migrant crisis, where are all the women on children? >> these are the most vulnerable, the most in need of refuge and asylum, aren't they? these are the people that brits are willing to have a huge amount of sympathy for. and so even take their own homes, even take into their own homes, like ukrainians or the like with the ukrainians or the women children ones women and children are the ones surely, are the most surely, who are the most desperate. well, according to the office, of small the home office, 87% of small boat arrivals in 2022 were male. from 2018 to june 2022, 95% of albanian small boat arrivals were men. statistics released by immigration enforcement show that 75% of arrivals up to mid 2021 were between the ages of 18 and 39. now, raf scampton and wethersfield , they will only wethersfield, they will only house men. the bibby stockholm men only. i'll take a look at some of these pictures that
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nigel farage tweeted earlier from today's channel crossing. so these are from today . they're so these are from today. they're all men , i think, aren't they? all men, i think, aren't they? yeah. yeah yeah. they're all men. well, according to a report by migration watch 98% of those crossings in boats did not actually possess . we might have actually possess. we might have actually possess. we might have a woman there, do we? one woman? no. no they're all men. oh, man. there we go. 98% of those crossings in boats did not possess a passport at the time of process being so it would be quite easy to suggest, wouldn't it , that we are welcoming in a it, that we are welcoming in a load of young men who are gaming the system and pretending to be asylum seekers or or a load of genuine asylum seekers who have decided to leave their wives and children to the slaughter abroad and seek out a better life for themselves in britain now , i themselves in britain now, i don't think that either of those things are particularly good . i things are particularly good. i think it's about time to have a serious conversation. if that is long overdue, actually, about
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how many young men are coming across and some of the clear and present dangers that that poses as . gb views gbnews.com get as. gb views gbnews.com get those views coming in thick and fast. those views coming in thick and fast . i'm those views coming in thick and fast. i'm joined now by the former director general of uk border forces, tony smith. tony thank you very, very much . where thank you very, very much. where are all the women and children ? are all the women and children? >> well, of course, as you know, patrick, we don't select who gets to come across the channel. that's done by the human smuggling gangs and the young men that are men are the ones that are probably and affluent probably fit enough and affluent enough to be able to pay for their passage. and so you're right that actually what's happening is we're not admitting the most vulnerable people around the world into our asylum system. >> we're admitting those that can afford to come and are fit enough to travel across europe and pay a smuggler to do so. >> and it would another >> and it would be yet another example why actually , it may example of why actually, it may even be the kind thing do to
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even be the kind thing to do to stop going on the channel. >> so would have more >> so that we would have more money, time and resources and accommodation who accommodation for people who are in genuine like dare in genuine need, like dare i say it, women and children . it, actual women and children. >> yeah, you know, >> yeah, well, as you know, patrick, my beef has always been with the smugglers. the human smugglers a real problem smugglers got a real problem with with them with them. i've dealt with them dunng with them. i've dealt with them during they're nasty during my career. they're nasty people. they don't care at for all human life. don't care who all human life. i don't care who drowns. for drowns. they're only in it for the money. so they're not the money. and so they're not really interested in providing safe passage for vulnerable people uk . there's no people into the uk. there's no welfare at application from their point of view, but you're right. i mean, there are vulnerable zones vulnerable people in war zones around that do need around the world that do need protection, do need help and the care unhcr, they're not care of unhcr, they're not getting a look in essentially because we are completely preoccupied with these criminal gangs that continue to bring young males over here, some of whom may well, you know, be from countries where they may have a claim, but many of whom are not simply gainsaying system simply gainsaying the system because they can. >> do you think that just in reality it is a lot of young men
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who are perfectly safe and want to try to have a better life? is thatis to try to have a better life? is that is that just what it is ? that is that just what it is? well, i've been over there. >> i've spoken to some of them. i've been on the boats, patrick. i've been on the boats, patrick. ispeak i've been on the boats, patrick. i speak to a lot of border force officers. so is mixed officers. so this is a mixed cohort of people . some them, cohort of people. some of them, many have been in europe many of them have been in europe for a very, very long time. they just prefer to come here and for a very, very long time. they just payer to come here and for a very, very long time. they just pay to to come here and for a very, very long time. they just pay to come|e here and for a very, very long time. they just pay to come across. and of will pay to come across. some of them claimed them may have even claimed asylum but then asylum in europe. but then again, at the figures, asylum in europe. but then agaiknow, at the figures, asylum in europe. but then agaiknow, quite at the figures, asylum in europe. but then agaiknow, quite a the figures, asylum in europe. but then agaiknow, quite a lote figures, asylum in europe. but then agaiknow, quite a lot of gures, asylum in europe. but then agaiknow, quite a lot of the�*s, you know, quite a lot of the ones last year that were granted asylum do originate from countries iran, syria asylum do originate from courafghanistan, n, syria asylum do originate from courafghanistan, where syria asylum do originate from courafghanistan, where it's'ia and afghanistan, where it's virtually to return virtually impossible to return someone. may have a very, someone. it may have a very, very the very good claim for asylum. the latest i'm hearing, though, is that these cohorts are changing. they change all time . the they change all the time. the cross med route is the cross central med route is the big one. now, if you look on the frontex patrick central frontex figures, patrick central med, bringing in med, that's bringing people in from africa , getting from sub—sahara africa, getting more egyptians a lot more more in, egyptians a lot more from these are countries from turkey, these are countries where to return where we are able to return people and we've really got to find a way. now we've this
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find a way. now we've got this new get those people new bill to get those people removed a message that removed and send a message that it's you it's not to going work. if you come in a small boat, come across in a small boat, you're to sent you're going to get sent back. and i think that's what this new bill trying to do. and i think that's what this new billthe rying to do. and i think that's what this new billthe bibbyo do. and i think that's what this new billthe bibby stockholm is going >> the bibby stockholm is going to then we end up to be 500 men and then we end up with scampton. think with raf scampton. i think that's about 1700, if not 2000 men. similar numbers when we talk raf wethersfield, talk about raf wethersfield, anyone ever spent any time anyone who's ever spent any time just walking past one of these asylum seeker hotels or trying to investigate any of them as well, clearly see that the well, can clearly see that the majority the majority of them are men. the actual figures show actual home office figures show that them are that the majority of them are men, as well. is it time that we had a serious conversation about the clear and present dangers that it poses to import that many young men into a country from very dubious backgrounds as well? >> this is the other problem. you know, i've got 51,000 destitute migrants now costing 6 million per day to be housed largely in hotels. so the home office is trying very hard to find other places to decant them to. but as you know and as your reports regularly say , they're reports regularly say, they're finding that very difficult
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because of people, they because a lot of people, be they mps or local communities, are not interested in having large numbers of asylum seekers housed in community. liz so if in their community. liz so if you turn up here and you have got somewhere to stay and we're satisfied it's you've got a genuine you will be genuine sponsor, you will be given bail allowed stay given bail and allowed to stay with person. we've got with that person. but we've got a number of a very, very large number of people these boats a very, very large number of peofsimply these boats a very, very large number of peofsimply don't these boats a very, very large number of peofsimply don't have.e boats a very, very large number of peofsimply don't have anywhere a very, very large number of pe go imply don't have anywhere a very, very large number of pe go because n't have anywhere a very, very large number of pe go because they ave anywhere a very, very large number of pe go because they claim ywhere a very, very large number of pe go because they claim to here to go because they claim to be destitute. that's why the government trying so hard to government is trying so hard to find opportunities find places and opportunities like which aren't hotel like this which aren't hotel rooms , but at least give us rooms, but at least give us somewhere where we can place them they can be them safely until they can be properly dealt with. >> some people the point >> some people make the point that country that maybe this country shouldn't be particularly opening to a load opening and welcoming to a load of people of a quote of people who are of a quote unquote fighting age who could have potentially gone and stayed around country to around in their own country to sort for themselves sort the mess out for themselves over there are women over there when there are women and children would and children who would need saving. your views on saving. what would your views on that be? >> well, i agree that we're not selecting, as i said top selecting, as i said at the top of this interview, we're not selecting come selecting who gets to come on the patrick that's being the boats. patrick that's being done smuggling done by the human smuggling gangs like to see us
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gangs. i would like to see us select that select people. we've done that with done that with ukraine. we've done that with ukraine. we've done that with vulnerable we have with vulnerable people. we have responsible parties in hong with vulnerable people. we have resporbute parties in hong with vulnerable people. we have resporbut actually in hong with vulnerable people. we have resporbut actually a1 hong with vulnerable people. we have resporbut actually a lot)ng with vulnerable people. we have resporbut actually a lot of| with vulnerable people. we have resporbut actually a lot of the kong. but actually a lot of the people on these boats people coming on these boats have been in third countries, people coming on these boats havjusten in third countries, people coming on these boats havjust pass third countries, people coming on these boats havjust pass through.intries, people coming on these boats havjust pass through. patrick not just pass through. patrick they've in safe third they've been in safe third countries very, very countries for a very, very long time . they're simply an time. they're simply taking an opportunity here because they can to get in the british territorial claim territorial waters and claim asylum because they would prefer to stay here. and i don't think that's a proper selection process for refugees this process for refugees in this country.you've dealt with people >> but you've dealt with people smugglers. you've with smugglers. you've dealt with human . you've smugglers. you've dealt with human .you've dealt human traffickers. you've dealt with coming with the kind of people coming across the channel where do the women children they women and children go? do they just they just not go very far? do they tend to just stay in a relative locality? they go, say locality? do they go, let's say they're iraq or they're coming from iraq or syria? indeed they do syria? if indeed they are, do they stay turkey ? where do they stay in turkey? where do they stay in turkey? where do they because they're not they go? because they're not really coming to a holiday inn near well there near you, are they? well there are there are occasions where family groups do embark across perilous journeys, across multiple borders . multiple borders. >> i think there's good evidence of that. and you can see that many do, do out many of them do, do do set out on journey. i think the
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on the journey. but i think the more common model now is for the young can young fitter males who can afford to leave relatives afford to pay to leave relatives behind. if they can get behind. and then if they can get into and gain a foothold into the uk and gain a foothold here, then send for their relatives later down the line relatives later on down the line because journeys because these journeys are really patrick i'm really dangerous. patrick i'm amazed. and the border force will you amazed. there's will tell you amazed. there's not been drownings not been more drownings out there, my there, and usually in my experience, a token experience, there is a token woman often a pregnant woman or two, often a pregnant woman or two, often a pregnant woman a and a young woman on a dinghy and a young child, because that their child, because that helps their case.if child, because that helps their case. if someone approaches and they don't to be rescued, they don't want to be rescued, then i've seen babies being hung they don't want to be rescued, titheyve seen babies being hung they don't want to be rescued, tithey don'ten babies being hung they don't want to be rescued, tithey don't want)ies being hung they don't want to be rescued, tithey don't want tos being hung they don't want to be rescued, tithey don't want to be. ing hung . they don't want to be. >> yeah, sorry to interrupt, but this actually this is that actually just infuriates and i know it infuriates me. and i know it will infuriate a lot our will infuriate a lot of our viewers and listeners as well. this that have this idea that we need to have a huge amount sympathy for huge amount of sympathy for people who are willing to stuck a full of men and a dinghy full of young men and then token pregnant then shove a token pregnant woman a young there woman or a young child on there and into the and push them out into the busiest lane in the busiest shipping lane in the world, desire world, just simply with a desire to easier them to to make it easier for them to stay. sorry, but who to stay. i'm sorry, but who is to blame if they die? >> it's the smugglers that >> well, it's the smugglers that are blame because they're the are to blame because they're the ones that are behind all of this. ultimately , it
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this. patrick but ultimately, it is it does require a solution with the french, doesn't it ? and with the french, doesn't it? and with the french, doesn't it? and with our partners in europe , with our partners in europe, because, you know, if we had that agreement i've been advocating from day one with the french, which is perfectly feasible in international law, that we had joint patrols and anybody on these boats could immediately be returned to calais. don't fear calais. they don't fear persecution there. you could stop this at instant and stop this at an instant and i think a lot of political think there's a lot of political support unfortunately, support for that. unfortunately, though, not though, patrick, there's not that kind support that i can that kind of support that i can see brussels in paris. see in brussels or in paris. >> no, indeed . it see in brussels or in paris. >> no, indeed. it is see in brussels or in paris. >> no, indeed . it is absolutely >> no, indeed. it is absolutely staggering that can staggering to me that that can be and i think it's be the case. and i think it's just worthwhile noting, isn't it? where are all the it? again where are all the women and children? those are the people that should be in need refuge most. those need of refuge the most. those are the people who should in need of refuge the most. those are tiof people who should in need of refuge the most. those are tiof asylum.'ho should in need of refuge the most. those are tiof asylum. thehould in need of refuge the most. those are tiof asylum. thehould andi need of refuge the most. those are tiof asylum. thehould and if need of asylum. the most. and if it case, if it is the it is the case, if it is the case, which you appear to be suggesting, as the former director border director general of uk border force, got absolutely director general of uk border forreason got absolutely director general of uk border forreason to got absolutely director general of uk border forreason to disbelieve;olutely no reason to disbelieve anything that to me. you that you have to say to me. you know so much more about this than anybody else there. than anybody else out there. arguably it the case that arguably if it is the case that people want over here,
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people want to come over here, leave families abroad , add leave their families abroad, add to foothold here, and to create a foothold here, and then them back, then look to bring them back, i would question then how much then look to bring them back, i woul(of uestion then how much then look to bring them back, i woul(of urgent then how much then look to bring them back, i woul(of urgent asylumyw much then look to bring them back, i woul(of urgent asylum those ch need of urgent asylum those people are, because if you are in need of it, you would just get out and you would get everybody out. that would be my view but tony, thank you view on it. but tony, thank you very it is always very much. it is always a pleasure. on pleasure. great to have you on the smith, their the show. tony smith, their former general of uk former director general of uk border . yeah, when you border force. yeah, when you look at pictures boats look at the pictures of boats coming look at the coming across, you look at the amount that amount of raf bases that are being now just for men. and being used now just for men. and you look frankly, at you look frankly, just at the stats well, 87% of small boat stats as well, 87% of small boat arrivals in 2022 were male. and that, by the way , does not that, by the way, does not include, as far as i'm aware , include, as far as i'm aware, the amount people claiming the amount of people claiming to be on top of that as be children on top of that as well. you've obviously got well. you've then obviously got 75% of the arrivals between mid 2021, sorry, up to mid 2021 were between the ages of 18 and 39 and supposedly anyway, according to migration watch, 98% of those did not possess passports or any form of documentation. it is very easy to jump to. the conclusion is it not, that there are a lot of young men coming
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the people's. channel right? >> well, in a moment, i will bnng >> well, in a moment, i will bring you news of the country's new counter—terror strategy as suella braverman warns that the threat of an attack at the uk is rising and the woman who was jailed. now, this was massively controversial at the time, this massively controversial divided the country big time. well it's reared its head again because, yeah, the woman who was jailed for obtaining tablets to end pregnancy right towards the final bit of the term actually it must be said will be released from prison after a high court appeal. strong from prison after a high court appeal . strong views on that from prison after a high court appeal. strong views on that . appeal. strong views on that. we'll talk about that shortly. but now nato has keir starmer performed named one. you turn to many. the labour leader says that he won't remove the two child benefit cap if they win the next general election. dunng the next general election. during his leadership campaign in 2020, sir keir said that he would scrap the cap . well, in would scrap the cap. well, in the past the deputy leader, angela rayner has described the
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cap as obscene and inhumane . cap as obscene and inhumane. anas sarwar, for example, says that scottish labour is opposed to the cap. joining me now is the former labour special adviser and columnist paul richards. paul, thank you very much. what do you make of this then?i much. what do you make of this then? i mean, is he in the business of performing u—turns? do you think he's trying to win an election? >> so what he's doing here is trying present a labour trying to present a new labour party different party very different from the one massively rejected one that got massively rejected in 2019 based on fiscal responsibility. you can't make lots of promises if you can't fund them. you can't just throw things out there and, you know, offer a shopping list of things to the british public because the public the british public are not stupid. so i think it's not really policy. really about welfare policy. this it's about this actually it's about economic and what rachel economic policy and what rachel reeves and keir starmer are trying do is look fiscally trying to do is look fiscally responsible because they know the mountain they have to climb is so huge. >> think it's just >> do you think it's just something saying then to something he's saying then to get and that the reality get elected and that the reality of starmer government of a keir starmer government will be pretty lefty? will actually be pretty lefty? >> he'll have to >> well, i think he'll have to reinvent the social security
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system it's not working. system because it's not working. >> and i mean, whole point >> and i mean, the whole point of child policy was to of the two child policy was to get back to work and it get people back to work and it hasn't worked. >> it's failed. >> it's failed. >> driven people into poverty. >> but don't forget, labour hasn't since 2005. >> labour isn't in power now. some of the politicians that are on the airwaves at the moment, it's as though was in it's as though labour was in government these things. it's as though labour was in govthislent these things. it's as though labour was in govthis is|t these things. it's as though labour was in govthis is just these things. it's as though labour was in govthis is just a these things. it's as though labour was in govthis is just a policy; things. it's as though labour was in govthis is just a policy ahead 5. >> this is just a policy ahead of a general election and so we have to win the election first before you can have you can't shout you've shout betrayal before you've won, has he got a massive >> well, has he got a massive issue there with the left of his party? types party? i mean, the usual types like owen jones, for example, are i mean, there's are piping up. i mean, there's even well, there's quite even talk well, there's quite a it's a widely behind the it's a widely held behind the scenes view there. i mean angela rayner exactly best rayner aren't exactly best mates, is there mates, right? so is there actually massive actually a massive divide between the between keir starmer, the potential prime minister, and what the left of the labour party want him to be? >> well, there are people the >> well, there are people on the left party, some left of the labour party, some are the labour party, are still in the labour party, some the some of them outside of the labour party want to tear labour party who want to tear him down. >> i mean part of his >> i mean that is part of his definition, but actually he
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won't that it gives won't mind that because it gives him credibility. >> happened between >> what had happened between 2015 and 2019. >> so actually it doesn't do him any to enemies on the any harm to have enemies on the left that will help him left because that will help him win votes on the right. >> so do think that there is >> so do you think that there is any chance a party any chance of a labour party implosion? because from where i'm now, that implosion? because from where i'm be now, that implosion? because from where i'm be bestyw, that implosion? because from where i'm be best hope at implosion? because from where i'm be best hope for the would be the best hope for the conservative party. is the fact that the labour party just manages itself. manages to eat itself. >> remember manages to eat itself. >> the remember manages to eat itself. >> the kind remember manages to eat itself. >> the kind ofmember manages to eat itself. >> the kind of rows )er exactly the same kind of rows that tony blair and brown that tony blair and gordon brown had 95, 96 period had in the sort of 95, 96 period before landslide. before that landslide. >> i'm not saying it's going to be it's similar be a landslide, but it's similar to just know that you to and they just know that you know, noise off usual know, noise is off the usual suspects saying suspects making a row saying betrayal doesn't betrayal, betrayal. it doesn't do harm at all. actually. do any harm at all. actually. it gets people to listen and look at again in maybe for the at labour again in maybe for the first time and think about voting labour based on this economic responsibility. >> do you think that is >> do you think that labour is ready to rule? >> , i do. i mean, we've been >> yes, i do. i mean, we've been out of power for a long time, but i there are some but i think there are some really people now in the really good people now in the shadow real shadow cabinet and some real grown the room. grown ups now in the room. i think. starmer i know think think. starmer i know we think he's i wouldn't he's boring. i wouldn't necessarily pint with
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necessarily go for a pint with him, but he is somebody who can run now. >> think same about >> think the same about rishi sunak. mean, sunak. to be fair. so i mean, it's a choice is a toss up between two dullards, ask between two dullards, if you ask me. but sure, but we're not choosing go for a drink with choosing to go for a drink with somebody be a sound somebody who can be a sound administrator, the country, somebody who can be a sound admiafter|tor, the country, somebody who can be a sound admiafter our the country, somebody who can be a sound admiafter our security. :ountry, look after our security. >> yvette cooper look after our security. >> was yvette cooper look after our security. >> was veryette cooper look after our security. >> was very good. oper look after our security. >> was very good. byer look after our security. >> was very good. by the speech was very good. by the way, yesterday national way, yesterday on national security. getting security. so labour is getting its house in order and it's got grown the who can grown ups in the room. who can take forward? grown ups in the room. who can takydoes orward? grown ups in the room. who can takydoes orw actually have a grown ups in the room. who can takydoes orwactually have a clear >> does he actually have a clear ideology there? because you know, was mr for know, this guy was mr remain for a time. saying, oh, a long time. he's saying, oh, well, know, i'm going well, you know, i'm not going to row back you know, he row back on that. you know, he was more than capable of backing up a very long up jeremy corbyn for a very long penod up jeremy corbyn for a very long period going into bat period of time going into bat for now he appears to for him. and now he appears to be everything can to be doing everything he can to distance the distance himself from that. the left aren't left of the party aren't particularly with him. particularly happy with him. i mean, make the same mean, i would make the same criticism of the conservative party, by the way, which that party, by the way, which is that at moment for too long at the moment and for too long we been led by people who we have been led by people who are doing sticking plaster policies actually policies and not actually anything to with genuine anything to do with genuine ideology. and i think that's a problem because it's just the tail wagging dog, but it's tail wagging the dog, but it's keir of that.
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keir starmer more of that. >> not sure we want more >> i'm not sure we want more ideology, we? >> i'm not sure we want more ideyi ogy, we? >> i'm not sure we want more ideyi think we? >> i'm not sure we want more ideyi think we re? >> i'm not sure we want more ideyi think we want sound >> i think we want sound administration, a government >> i think we want sound adm gets ation, a government >> i think we want sound adm gets ation, a it,vernment that gets on with it, a government that doesn't do any harm all get on with harm and lets us all get on with our lives. that what we our lives. isn't that what we want? don't want to led by want? i don't want to be led by ideologues. i want sane, ideologues. i want the sane, sensible good sensible people with good values. is values. and you ask what is his mission? would say social mission? i would say social justice is the one thread that runs through. >> does look >> what does that look like, though? that? though? what is that? >> well, think believes in >> well, i think he believes in fairness. i think he believes fairness. so i think he believes people should be allowed to get on you know, the on in life. you know, the government you it government can help you where it can the way. can and get out of the way. >> because was a look, >> because i was having a look, for example, cooper. for example, at yvette cooper. now of social now her version of social justice would appear to be, according twitter according to her twitter page, was allowing anybody who was never allowing anybody who has term home abortion has a full term at home abortion to go to prison. i'm to ever go to prison. i'm not sure that's social justice. to ever go to prison. i'm not sure tiat's social justice. to ever go to prison. i'm not sure ti wouldn't. justice. well, i wouldn't believe everything you read on twitter for start, wrote but. for a start, wrote it, but. >> well, you'd have to quiz her on that particular one. >> well, you'd have to quiz her on but particular one. >> well, you'd have to quiz her on but iyarticular one. >> well, you'd have to quiz her on but iyarticu there e. >> well, you'd have to quiz her on but iyarticu there is >> but i think there is a leadership team around leadership team now around starmer would include wes starmer and i would include wes streeting that. would streeting in that. i would include phillipson, include bridget phillipson, rachel , you grown rachel reeves, you know, grown up are going to up people now who are going to do a good job. and i think the country for a change.
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country is ready for a change. i don't we need five don't think we need another five years, another five years after that that that of this same lot that we have at the moment, because, you know, you'll be the first to admit working, admit it's not really working, is no, it's not working. no, >> no, it's not working. no, it's all. my one of my it's not at all. my one of my biggest is that i just it's not at all. my one of my bigge see is that i just it's not at all. my one of my bigge see it is that i just it's not at all. my one of my bigge see it reallyis that i just it's not at all. my one of my bigge see it really working just it's not at all. my one of my bigge see it really working not don't see it really working no matter at the matter who's in charge at the moment, which is rather annoying. chance. give you a moment, which is rather annthere chance. give you a moment, which is rather annthere you hance. give you a moment, which is rather annthere you go.:e. give you a moment, which is rather annthere you go.:e. givthanka go. there you go. look. thank you very much. always an absolute have in you very much. always an absy studio. have in you very much. always an absystudio. much have in you very much. always an absystudio. much appreciated. in the studio. much appreciated. thatis the studio. much appreciated. that is the former labour special columnist special adviser and columnist paul richards. right. okay. loads come between now loads more to come between now and there a stark and 6:00, there is a stark warning from suella braverman. she's the country's new she's unveiled the country's new counter—terror ism strategy. she's unveiled the country's new counter—tithat ism strategy. she's unveiled the country's new counter—tithat ism like? gy. what will that look like? where's coming where's the main threat coming from? is going on? from? what on earth is going on? i've got all that coming your i've got all of that coming your way. much will way. and much, much more. i will also be talking us big also be talking about us big controversial this controversial topic. this this lady that kind of lady who did have that kind of at basically term at home, basically full term abortion. she was sentenced to prison. well apparently prison. well now, apparently she's just to be released she's just going to be released pretty immediately. mean, pretty much immediately. i mean, what's it been, a few weeks? utmost? is that utmost? well, actually, is that justice, think? that's justice, do you think? that's right it has divided the right? it has divided the nation. right? it has divided the nafion. be nation. we'll be having a discussion as whether not discussion as to whether or not anything should ever anything like that should ever actually by actually be punishable by
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prison. your prison. but now is your headunes prison. but now is your headlines with polly middlehurst . patrick >> thank you. the top stories this hour. the bbc's director general has told the house of lords communications and digital committee today that staff at the corporation are confident in the corporation are confident in the broadcaster's whistleblowing processes. tim davie explained the organisation has been in touch with the complainant who alleged huw edwards paid a young person for explicit images since the allegations were published in the sun on gb news understands 450 migrants have crossed the english channel in nine small boats this morning . nine small boats this morning. the news comes as the first group of asylum seekers will be moved to a migrant barge currently docked in portland in dorset next week . and the home dorset next week. and the home secretary says the risk of a terror attack in the uk is on the rise. suella braverman identified islamist terrorism as the primary uk domestic threat.
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morning. and also there'll be some wales, some sunny spells for wales, south—west , a lot of south—west england, a lot of cloud elsewhere and the early rainfall east turns to rainfall in the east turns to showers widely. actually will see an afternoon of sunny spells and showers. but in between the showers, there will be some warmth in the sun. 23 celsius in the south 18 to 20 in the north. the showers heaviest in the east. thursday sees return to sunny spells and showers for many. but i think a better chance of drier and brighter interludes at times. likewise friday, a day of sunny spells and showers before some more persistent rain arrives from the northwest later and that will be with us this weekend. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. well it's reported that muslim hate preacher anjem choudary is still being held by police after
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he was arrested yesterday morning. >> according to reports , >> according to reports, detectives raided the 56 year old chowdhury's home in ilford about 5:40 am. on monday. scotland yard counter—terror officers arrested a second man, a canadian national, 28 years old, who landed at heathrow on a flight from canada. seven hours later. both men were held on suspicion of being members of a banned organisation in contravention of the terrorism act 2000. the pair were being quizzed to, say, west london police station as police searched three properties in east london. that is the latest, of course, any more we will bnng of course, any more we will bring to you as we get it. but that news broke on the day that suella braverman revealed that islamic terrorism is still a major threat to britain. the home secretary also warned that russia is also using terrorism to sow division in the uk. as she laid out the government's new counter terror strategy. joining me now is kevin hurley ,
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joining me now is kevin hurley, former head of counter—terrorism at city of london police. kevin, thank you very, very much. so suella braverman outlining the new counter—terrorism strategy . new counter—terrorism strategy. dodi basically saying that the greatest threat does still come from islamist terrorists. what do you make of it? >> well, she's absolutely right. >> well, she's absolutely right. >> i mean, we woke up to the world once the twin towers came down and those people who work in the counter—terrorist world have looked back quite, have never looked back quite, quite honestly . quite honestly. >> and there's absolutely no doubt that there remains a threat to us in the uk , mainly threat to us in the uk, mainly from our own home—grown people. you know, it's nothing to do with people coming over on the illegal boats and so on, although there might be the odd person there. but the bottom line is our own british children on yeah for various reasons are getting radicalised online or in terms of is islamist terrorism in extremist mosques that preach
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salafist extreme jihadist behaviour . salafist extreme jihadist behaviour. and this will pertain and i frankly i can't see any end to it. it's going to carry on.and end to it. it's going to carry on. and it's good that government are focussed. and what i'm particularly pleased aboutis what i'm particularly pleased about is to see mr chowdhury yet alone getting arrested and as he probably does as he did before, which is live off our social benefits. >> well , there we go. i'm just >> well, there we go. i'm just going to say now. so this counter terrorism strategy is called contest. and as you were alluding to there, suella braverman has identified the fact that in prisons , as she fact that in prisons, as she believes that there is a massive issue to issue when it comes to radicalisation. she also identified world and identified the online world and also has been talking as well about threat that russia about the threat that russia poses when it comes to terrorism and i just wondered if what you made of that? mean, know, made of that? i mean, you know, look, is obviously deemed look, russia is obviously deemed to kind actor in the to be a kind of bad actor in the world, i'm not i would world, but i'm not sure i would necessarily associate that with terrorism streets of terrorism on the streets of britain. the thing is about britain. well the thing is about the russians and putin and his team, they come from a long
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heritage the kgb about heritage with the kgb about being disruptive and using what might be known as asymmetric warfare techniques, which is using other ways to cause countries issues or problems. >> and of course, at the moment, we are number one subject of dislike , like by mr putin dislike, like by mr putin because of the way in which the government has supported the ukrainians. yeah to hold the russians off. so some ways to hurt us are to stir up trouble and dissent within the uk , and dissent within the uk, particularly amongst islamists who are likely to swallow the jihadist nutcase side of life . jihadist nutcase side of life. and when you bear in mind that he's got a lot of chechens in his armed forces, that chechen army who are now his tame islamist fighters, they've got plenty of knowledge and plenty of extremists. they're quite able to use online means to
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propagate what he wants to do, which is disrupt our society so that we don't provide the weapons that the ukrainians need to defeat him. >> yeah . now, this to defeat him. >> yeah. now, this is interesting from suella braverman , okay. which is braverman, okay. which is counter terrorism policing has around 800 live investigate locations and last year made 169 arrests for terror related offences . she went on to say to offences. she went on to say to two terror plots have been foiled in the past seven months alone . i mean, for want of alone. i mean, for want of a better phrase , it is a ticking better phrase, it is a ticking time bomb here, isn't it? >> well, it is, and i'm surprised they're only saying to foiled in the last seven months because you know, there are thousand several people that are people of concern to the security forces, mainly the police and m15 . and amongst any police and m15. and amongst any of those is someone who is likely to go off the rails if you look at most of our own
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home—grown terrorists, they've got a couple of things in common. quite honestly , they common. quite honestly, they are. they've got personal issues and problems about how they see the world. they tend to be insecure . young males with too insecure. young males with too much testosterone letterone who want to demonstrate that, you know, that they are someone to be heard and to be listened to. and a lot of them and this is why prisons are important. a lot of them have got a history of failed lives in that they've been to prison on a number of occasions mugger , occasions. the peckham mugger, if you like, the shoe bomber , if you like, the shoe bomber, richard reid, who tried to bring down the airliner, was a classic example of that, went to the brixton mosque , was a street brixton mosque, was a street robber a lot of us who robber known to a lot of us who ended going down that route. ended up going down that route. and course, prisons , and of course, in the prisons, we've got real problems now where running some of where they are running some of the causing prison the wings and causing prison staff. of problems in staff. a lot of problems in trying to manage them. >> yeah, look, let's be completely honest about it. a lot of these people who are want to be terrorists are actually very sad . little men who quite very sad. little men who quite
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often get a girlfriend or often can't get a girlfriend or a wife. they can, to be a wife. and if they can, to be honest you, wouldn't honest with you, i wouldn't necessarily with necessarily be that pleased with what then you look what i've got. and then you look at now, they really at them now, they can't really potentially get a job because they have a they might already have a criminal they think criminal record and they think life and want life is hopeless and they want to kind of hero to try and be some kind of hero in homes. they are in their own homes. they are just pathetic. unfortunately, though, pathetic just pathetic. unfortunately, though, do pathetic just pathetic. unfortunately, though,do kill pathetic just pathetic. unfortunately, though,do kill people pathetic just pathetic. unfortunately, though,do kill people on|thetic just pathetic. unfortunately, though,do kill people on the :ic people do kill people on the streets of britain. that, of streets of britain. and that, of course, absolute course, is an absolute nightmare. braverman, nightmare. suella braverman, just about the just talk a lot about the proliferation of modern technology how technology online and how difficult keep tabs on difficult it is to keep tabs on that. be fine that. this will be a fine balancing because balancing act because the average joe on street who average joe on the street who just of these things, just uses one of these things, a phone a laptop that i've phone or a laptop here that i've got here nothing nefarious got for here nothing nefarious whatsoever. don't want to end whatsoever. we don't want to end up having huge amount of restrictions we and restrictions on what we can and can't . and amounts of can't do. and huge amounts of these online safety bills which are derived around protecting against lowest common against the lowest common denominator, aren't they? you're kind evil people go out kind of evil people who go out there and seek out jihadi material. so it's a delicate balancing act between clamping down on those people and upholding basic public freedoms i >> -- >> well, i think you make a very
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good point. but i think one area where the police in particular, because m15 , of course, take a because m15, of course, take a lower profile, could do far better, is being much, much more agile around the use of social media in relation to any particular event. the police generally in the uk are woefully poor at responding to any story that's negative or unhelpful , that's negative or unhelpful, and i would like to see a situation torfaen where the police in uk, as a matter of policy , see across the board, policy, see across the board, but including terrorism, have got teams of people constantly monitor what's going on and developing counter narratives on twitter, facebook, snapchat, instagram and tiktok, the whole lot of them that kids follow because they are i mean, one thing i learned when i was out in afghanistan, i was a senior police adviser out there advising on the taliban. is they were streets ahead of the entire nato effort at using social media. they would set us up
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constantly and spread the word so that millions of people in afghanistan thought that we were up to bad stuff and it would take days before we'd react. and the uk police are actually no different at getting out a different at getting out a different counter narrative . i different counter narrative. i mean, with the exception of gb news and people like yourself, no one else puts out a different narrative. >> oh no. well, no, indeed . and >> oh no. well, no, indeed. and that does actually never to cease amaze me because when i also read this headline that the uk security agencies have foiled 39 late stage terror plots since 2018, actually , it is staggering 2018, actually, it is staggering to think about the amount of people that wish us harm, but also the amount of home grown people who wish us harm and this is my ongoing concern , which is is my ongoing concern, which is that we have people who now were not just born and raised here, but their mum and dads were born and raised here as well. so the second generation of people , the second generation of people, the people who have grown up and
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reaped all the benefits of our society. et cetera. and for some reason want to turn it into essentially an islamic state. and that is a huge worry . and that is a huge worry. >> it is. and i mean, you know, there's some things that could be done far better . and when be done far better. and when i was involved as a police and crime commissioner surrey, crime commissioner in surrey, i was bannau in this drum. was kind of bannau in this drum. we need to find who is we need to find out who is financing the growth in some of the more extremist mosques around uk because they're around the uk because they're popping up around the uk because they're popping up everywhere and you will probably they are very will probably find they are very often saudi arabia businessmen who are behind many of these extremist mosques that are developing where they then insist to the management committees of the mosques that their own extremist madrassas , their own extremist madrassas, extremist imams, must be brought, brought in who've been taught around madrassas in lahore, in pakistan , iran and so lahore, in pakistan, iran and so on. who then literally teach hatred . and there's a fine hatred. and there's a fine balance here. but one of them is when we're talking about granting planning permission for a mosque , find out where the
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a mosque, find out where the money's coming from and make sure the funding is coming from reasonable people . then we don't reasonable people. then we don't get people coming in, poisoning the minds of our young british. >> are you are you by any are you by any chance? i don't know if you are, but it just tie in rather seamlessly with the story we were talking about earlier, if indeed which if indeed you are, which is london's famous trocadero is now being a mosque, being turned into a mosque, a billionaire there that was has been labelled as britain's cruellest landlord anyway, as apparently decided to buy asif aziz. he's 56 years old as a property tycoon known by mr west end is plonking a mosque that can have a capacity for 390 worshippers in the vacant metro cinema right in the slap bang in the middle of piccadilly circus and soho, which i mean, dare i say, when it comes to soho, might clash slightly with some of the other clientele that are might clash slightly with some of offerther clientele that are might clash slightly with some of offerthesoho ntele that are might clash slightly with some of offerthesoho there. hat are might clash slightly with some of offerthesoho there. butare on offer in soho there. but i mean, would you would you be having a long, hard look at this and whether or not the planning
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permission there is, again for want of better kosher? want of a better phrase, kosher? >> would do i would be >> well, i would do i would be looking to see the funding looking to see where the funding stream for and where stream is for that and where mr aziz and so on. he may aziz links are and so on. he may well be a perfectly reasonable , well be a perfectly reasonable, devout muslim , which everyone's devout muslim, which everyone's entitled to be, who wants to do that because he believes that his faith should be more accessible to people. but the issue on it is where are the imams coming from and what messages are they preaching ? messages are they preaching? because we have got loads of really good imams in the uk who who actually work within the contest strategy or work within our prisons trying to address this extremist jihadist narrative that's been developed at various places around the country. >> all right, kevin , thank you >> all right, kevin, thank you very much. great stuff. kevin hurley there, former head of counter terrorism at city of london. police just reacting to suella new counter suella braverman new counter terrorism report . now, the mum terrorism report. now, the mum of three who was jailed for illegal obtaining abortion tablets to end her pregnancy
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dunng tablets to end her pregnancy during lockdown . hugely during lockdown. hugely controversial case, really strong opinions on both sides of this. well she had her sentence reduced and will now soon be released from prison. some people saying, well, hang people were saying, well, hang on minute, tantamount to on a minute, it's tantamount to murder. abortion at murder. a late stage abortion at home. people saying, look, home. other people saying, look, no one should ever prosecuted no one should ever be prosecuted for christys on gb for this patrick christys on gb news, news
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her pregnancy will be released from prison after the court of appeal reduced her sentence. carla foster admitted to illegally procuring her own abortion when she was between 32 and 34 weeks pregnant. foster today had her 28 month sentence halved and has been allowed to serve the remainder of her term on licence. joining me now for more on this is the author and broadcaster julie cook. julie thank you very much. this was an incredibly controversial case when it first came around. people were saying, actually, hang on a minute, this is basically murder . and the basically murder. and the sentence wasn't long enough . sentence wasn't long enough. another group of people were literally out in the street campaigning full term campaigning for full term abortions. you think ? abortions. what do you think? >> well, patrick, i'm pro—life . >> well, patrick, i'm pro—life. >> well, patrick, i'm pro—life. >> i'm a mum of two and i'm pro—life. >> but i'm also so if it's possible to say this pro being compassionate and understanding and i think this was a case of a woman who should have seen compassion and understanding, and there's a lot more context
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that's needed, really. >> we don't know enough about the context. >> you know, was there an ex who was coercive person? was a coercive person? >> was the present partner coercing her? >> there other stuff going >> was there other stuff going on life? she's on in her life? and she's a mother of three who's carried three so far. three pregnancies so far. >> looked after those children. >> happen to make her take this? >> yeah, i think that made it all the more difficult for people to believe that she genuinely didn't really know she was pregnant initially and that that wouldn't be necessarily be some compassion. there i suppose the kind of quirk with this, julie, is if she'd have given birth to this baby and it had lived and then she'd killed it, then obviously that's murder. and the prison sentence, one would imagine, would be drastically longer than it is at the moment. but because that initial process didn't happen, then was months. and that then it was 28 months. and that has halved. then has never been halved. and then she's about and she's back out and about and people whether or people are wondering whether or not justice. not that's justice. >> and i can understand >> yeah. and i can understand that. as you rightly say , a few that. as you rightly say, a few inches of the birth canal and the difference between it being a or or unborn
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a human being or or an unborn child . and i think, though, in child. and i think, though, in this case, it needed compassion and understanding. and we needed to ask why. i think you rightly say, well, she should have known. and she's a mother of three. should have known. three. she should have known. but made but equally, what made this mother three do something so mother of three do something so drastic after children drastic after three children that raised looked that she's raised and looked after? was a mental after? i think this was a mental case issue through and through . case issue through and through. it should have been straight to mental health facility and looked and analysed and looked after and analysed and asked why i don't think jail will help her. would have helped her. she's not a to risk the general public. i just don't think in this case jail was the answer. >> okay. and there was obviously a lot of concern as to whether or not this will now lead to a big push for full term big concerted push for full term abortions, etcetera . but, julie, abortions, etcetera. but, julie, thank you very much. i'm sorry we didn't have too much time at the end there, is the end there, but it is obviously emotive topic obviously a deeply emotive topic as well. i appreciate you coming on julie cook, the author and on is julie cook, the author and broadcaster reacting broadcaster just reacting to that deeply controversial topic right covm that deeply controversial topic right me covid that deeply controversial topic right me filling covid that deeply controversial topic right me filling in covid that deeply controversial topic right me filling in for/id joins me now, filling in for dewbs& co and what's on the dewbs& co and co. what's on the
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agenda ? agenda? >> well, we're going to be discussing >> well, we're going to be discussiare? >> you are? >> yes. >> yes. >> suspended sentence . have we >> suspended sentence. have we essentially decriminalise late term abortions ? well, seem that way. >> it's not. it's not far off it. — >> it's not. it's not far off it. it's complicated . it. it's complicated. >> but i'm going to get the views of my panel on that. we're also going to be discussing, well, the government opening the doors foreign foreign doors to foreign foreign construction workers. yes wasn't that why people voted for brexit? >> this is why people voted. >> this is why people voted. >> they didn't want that because they saw it as depressing their wages. we're going to be wages. so we're going to be discussing that, and discussing that, too. and also terrorism. well, suella braverman raised the level braverman has raised the level she rising she says that it's rising anyway, the threat. so we're she says that it's rising anywato the threat. so we're she says that it's rising anywato the discussing we're she says that it's rising anywato the discussing that, too. >> fantastic stuff. well, look, too. >> fa carver stuff. well, look, too. >> fa carver willf. well, look, too. >> fa carver will joinll, look, too. >> fa carver will join you )ok, too. >> fa carver will join you for. emily carver will join you for a fantastic final hour here. that will be of course, emily stepping in for dewbs& co look, thank you very much, everybody who's been getting in touch throughout this throughout the course of this show, an absolute show, it's been an absolute firecracker. you firecracker. i will see you tomorrow. bang on 3:00 pm for another three hours box another three hours of box office see you tomorrow . office tally. see you tomorrow. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of
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weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . first rain for many of us at the moment and through the rest of the day. showers for some and in 1 or 2 spots it is dry and bright, but the rain or showers do ease later as this little weather feature moves through, it's going to push into the nonh it's going to push into the north sea . by the end of the north sea. by the end of the day, peace going away. the rain from southern scotland, northern ireland, northern and central england . still some showery england. still some showery bursts for northern and eastern england for a time and also some showers arriving into the north and northwest of scotland, northern ireland, but clear spells there. however, northern ireland, but clear sjbits there. however, northern ireland, but clear sjbit more there. however, northern ireland, but clear sjbit more around -iowever, northern ireland, but clear sjbit more around andever, a bit more cloud around and slightly milder air with so slightly milder air with us. so so a less cool night, 1516 in the south. i think single figures still though for scotland and northern ireland. that's where the best the that's where the best of the sunshine first thing on sunshine will be first thing on wednesday morning. also wednesday morning. and also there'll sunny spells there'll be some sunny spells for wales, south—west england , a for wales, south—west england, a lot cloud elsewhere. and the
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lot of cloud elsewhere. and the early rainfall in the east turns to showers widely , actually will to showers widely, actually will see an afternoon of sunny spells and showers. in between the and showers. but in between the showers there will be some warmth in the sun. 23 celsius in the south, 18 to 20 in the north. the showers heaviest in the east thursday sees return to sunny spells and showers for many. but i think a better chance of drier and brighter interludes at times. likewise friday, a day of sunny spells and showers before some more persistent rain arrives from the northwest later. and that will be with us this weekend . be with us this weekend. >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .
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