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week. the bibby dorset next week. the bibby stockholm , as it's known, will stockholm, as it's known, will be used to house single male asylum seekers as part of the government's plan to reduce the cost of housing migrants in hotels , as local residents are hotels, as local residents are calling for the barge to be removed elsewhere . for the home removed elsewhere. for the home secretary says the risk of a terror attack in the uk is rising . speaking in westminster, rising. speaking in westminster, suella braverman has identified islamist terrorism as the primary uk domestic threat. ms braverman also confirmed northern ireland related terrorism remained a significant threat, with some dissident groups continue to threaten attacks . the former manchester attacks. the former manchester united footballer and wales manager ryan giggs says he's relieved at being cleared of domestic violence allegations after charges against him were dropped . the 49 year old was due dropped. the 49 year old was due to stand trial for a second time, accused of control or coercive behaviour towards his ex—girlfriend. but lawyers withdrew the prosecution right .
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withdrew the prosecution right. ryan giggs denies the offences and his previous trial ended last august, with the jury failing to reach a verdict . it failing to reach a verdict. it news from the united states. donald trump says he expects to be arrested by an inquiry into the capitol riot and challenging the capitol riot and challenging the 2020 election results . the the 2020 election results. the former us president says he's been informed he's the target of the special counsel investigation . donald trump also investigation. donald trump also claims he's been sent a letter saying he has four days to report the grand jury. and he argued it was almost always means an arrest and an indictment. the special counsel hasn't yet commented on that. and finally, the first british passports bearing the title of king charles iii, will start being issued this week. the post—brexit blue travel documents will say his britannic majesty , and that'll be for the majesty, and that'll be for the first time since 1952. they've been issued under that title on tv online dab+ radio and the
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tune in app. this is gb news, britain's news . britain's news. channel >> good evening . well, last >> good evening. well, last night i told you that i'd received the subject access data i'd requested from coutts bank. the bank who cancelled my account. now bear in mind this is important . this is not just is important. this is not just about coutts and it's not just about coutts and it's not just about me because natwest is part of the same banking group and they have 19 million customer shares. so the culture that exists within these organisations, how they treat their customers matters to a huge number of people in this country . now, they had a country. now, they had a deadune country. now, they had a deadline of 30 days to respond and on the 30th day, interestingly after close of business, it arrived in my inbox. it is 40 pages long. it .
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inbox. it is 40 pages long. it. contains 1700, 1000 and 17,801 words. and that actually is a redacted number. there's an awful lot here that i've not been given, just things that directly affect me. it has unked directly affect me. it has linked to it at least 83 separate news and media articles every single one of them against me . the word brexit, it is me. the word brexit, it is mentioned 86 times. i get the feeling the corporate banks will never forgive anybody involved with the campaign and appallingly the word russia is mentioned. 144 times. yes all part of the russia hoax. the word racist is used 12 times. while i suppose we could have expected that from a group who were filled with malice and the very special kind of prejudice that you only get from the upper middle classes with metropolitan views . the word pep politically views. the word pep politically exposed person is used ten times in the document . well, you might
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in the document. well, you might have seen the bbc coverage just over a week ago. a source from coutts told their business editor simon jack that the reason my account was closed is because i fell below the financial threshold required to hold an account. yet this document, this document, which is from the 17th of november last year, which was the meeting at which the decision was taken, i will be exited in 2023. this document proves that was wrong and reveals that the real reason i was cancelled. so what really happened? my request for data shows me this november meeting of the coutts wealth reputational risk committee and they discussed how they could exit me from banking with them. well, the extracts i've got from the minutes of that committee are really pretty. quote, the committee did not think continuing to bank nigel farage was compatible with coutts, given his publicly stated views
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that were at odds with our position as an inclusive organisation in their recommendation was that once i'd paid off my mortgage, which i did in early march of this year , that my coutts account should be shut down in april. i received a telephone call to say my account was being closed. i received a letter confirming the account would be closed. no reasons given what so ever. it's only when i that i complained to the chairman that i got a phone call from coutts saying it was being done for commercial reasons. well, on the 17th of november last year that clearly wasn't the case. alongside the minutes from the meeting i was also sent the papers presented to the committee and it is a compilation of information that coutts put together on me. none of it positive and it starts by saying my economic contribute opfion saying my economic contribute option to my bank account is sufficient to retain on a commercial basis. are you
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watching this? bbc this completely tears apart the lie that they were told they say also in the report there is a lot of adverse press about me. well, there's a lot of good press too, but a list of links is provided to articles from and you've guessed it, the guardian, the independent subjects include russia , pro—putin, russia today russia, pro—putin, russia today links racism, xenophobia , black links racism, xenophobia, black lives matter, anti semitism, climate denying , anti net zero climate denying, anti net zero gender issues, fascism and supporting an anti vax stance. i mean , frankly, it couldn't be mean, frankly, it couldn't be more negative. and much of this has been disproved in a court of law when arron banks recently comprehensively won his libel action against that journalist from the guardian who really pushed fostered the russia hoax, you see the establishment couldn't accept brexit. they couldn't accept brexit. they couldn't accept brexit. they couldn't accept the result . they couldn't accept the result. they did everything they can to try and find a reason. and they
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believed it was russia. but it simply isn't true. and it really isfime simply isn't true. and it really is time the russia hoax ended . is time the russia hoax ended. examples of direct things they link to. when i called grant shapps a globalist , somehow shapps a globalist, somehow calling someone who's a remainer and a globalist for them, that was code for anti—semitism. have to be honest , i was code for anti—semitism. have to be honest, i didn't even was code for anti—semitism. have to be honest , i didn't even know to be honest, i didn't even know he was jewish. but never mind advocating for the government to leave the echr . i mean, this is leave the echr. i mean, this is something else that is on there very, very long list and crime sheet and worst of all, the endorsements of this man , the endorsements of this man, the man behind brexit and a man who led brilliantly the united kingdom independence party in this fight. >> and one despite all odds , mr >> and one despite all odds, mr nigel farage us , you've guessed
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nigel farage us, you've guessed it, the 45th president of the usa, donald trump and he's mentioned 14 times in this document another extraordinary sin is that i've been backing novak djokovic and interviewing his family . his family. >> and there i was in djokovic's trophy room in belgrade talking to his uncle whilst he was under effective house arrest in australia. apparently, this is something else that is on the long, long charge sheet. you would think reading this document actually that i was getting ready, they were the prosecution for a very, very important criminal trial. and i mean, try this for size, even when i retweeted this clip of ricky gervais , which which they ricky gervais, which which they describe in the report as a trans phobic comedy sketch, will you watch it? you make your minds up. >> the old fashioned women . >> the old fashioned women. >> the old fashioned women. >> oh, you know, the ones with
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wombs . oh so dinosaurs. oh no . i wombs. oh so dinosaurs. oh no. i love the new women. i know the new women. they're great, aren't they? you know, the new ones we've been seeing lately? the ones with beards. they're as good as they're as good as gold. >> i love them . >> i love them. >> i love them. >> no, it's the old fashioned . >> no, it's the old fashioned. and now the old fashioned. oh they want to use our toilets. why shouldn't they use your toilets for ladies ? they are toilets for ladies? they are ladies. look at their pro nouns . what about this person? isn't a lady? well, his penis is her penis. you bigot . penis. you bigot. >> well, i still think it's brilliant. and i was very happy to tweet it out. i just hope that ricky gervais is sake that he doesn't bank with coots as some people have suggested , that some people have suggested, that perhaps he might . some people have suggested, that perhaps he might. but some people have suggested, that perhaps he might . but let's move perhaps he might. but let's move on to the more serious issue, the russia hoax. throughout the
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report, they mention russian quotes like while it is accepted that no criminal convictions have resulted . oh, that's nice have resulted. oh, that's nice of them. commentary and behaviours that do not align to the banks purpose and values have been demonstrated . the memo have been demonstrated. the memo state that at least nine times that there is no evidence of links to russia. they've even run checks on my transactions to make sure that's the case. and yet labour mp sir chris bryant using parliamentary privilege his false allegation actions in the house of commons are mentioned twice and are seen as a big risk factor in my dear banking quote . in a big risk factor in my dear banking quote. in making a big risk factor in my dear banking quote . in making the banking quote. in making the decision risk factors, including accusations of links to russia. contrary herschel public statements which were felt to conflict with the bank's purpose as well. what is the bank's purpose? well, we had a look at this . the
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purpose? well, we had a look at this. the bank's purpose is to champion potential, helping people, families and businesses to thrive . coots clients are to thrive. coots clients are trailblazers , pioneers. the trailblazers, pioneers. the disruptors and challengers who help to shape the fabric of the uk. well, i think actually the truth is if you're a disrupter , truth is if you're a disrupter, coots may not want you. let me read some more direct quotes, if i can, from their analysis . we i can, from their analysis. we have reviewed the account activity of both nwf and thorn homicide limited, his company and can see nothing that appears to be a payment in relation to russia , work in russia or russia, work in russia or anything pro putin. so there it is in black and white. they write no payments in relation to russia and yet they still mention russia 144 times. they say the values nf actively and publicly promotes champions do not align with the banks . mhm. not align with the banks. mhm. particularly given the manner in
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which he states those views deliberately using extreme hateful and emote lviv language . at best he is seen as xenophobic and pandering to racists and at worst he is seen as xenophobic and racist. i mean , as xenophobic and racist. i mean i , as xenophobic and racist. i mean , i said to you at the start of all of this, this is absolutely vitriolic stuff, he is considered by many to be a disengaged grifter, really , and disengaged grifter, really, and is regularly the subject of adverse media. it goes on to say, being associated to nf presents a material and ongoing reputational risk to the bank. the view is that nf has not broken any law has the right to free speech. oh, that's nice of them. and is polite to staff. gosh, that must have shocked them as they think. i'm clearly some sort of monster they also had a decision to exit may result in ne using his platform on gb news social media to air his grievances. well well,
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they're not so much grievances that i'm airing and i'm not doing this just for me. i'm doing this just for me. i'm doing it for the thousands of people who've had their bank accounts closed and who knows how many more as time goes on. it's clear to me that nf has and projects a xenophobic, chauvinistic and racist views . i chauvinistic and racist views. i agree we should consider exit to coincide with the end of the mortgage term and on a long glide path that reduces the risk of counter criticism and one line that may well come back to haunt them. they say . although haunt them. they say. although he does not align with our views, is likely to be the same for a number of the bank's customers. will you bet your bottom dollar ? i bet there are bottom dollar? i bet there are 50% or so of coot's customers who will be pretty appalled by how they've behaved. and i wonder how many of the 19 million customers that are there at natwest that would approve of somebody having their account
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closed for down doing nothing thatis closed for down doing nothing that is illegal for speaking freely in a society in which we're supposed to do. so i wonder how many of them will have concerns now. we did, of course, ask coots for a comment and a spokesperson said our ability to respond is restricted by our obligations to client confidentiality. confidentiality decisions to close accounts are not taken lightly and take into account a number of factors , account a number of factors, including commercial viability, reputation considerations and legal and regulatory requirements. well there you are . i have to say that it isn't just coots akua . surely this just coots akua. surely this runs deep through our corporate culture. it really , really does. culture. it really, really does. i'm going to ask tonight , are i'm going to ask tonight, are you next? let me know whether you're worried. farage gbnews.com. and i think you should be because it's been announced by refinitiv one of the big global agencies that banks go to check out our credit worthiness . it's been announced worthiness. it's been announced that refinitiv will now work with banks in this country to
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monitor the social media posts of its customers . and now with of its customers. and now with al and various technology, they ai and various technology, they can measure every facebook post you put out . if you're a client you put out. if you're a client of one of our banks. and if you don't align to their so—called values and views, well , you values and views, well, you could be for the chop to one piece of good news that i think has come out of this is andrew griffith , a conservative member griffith, a conservative member of parliament for arundel and south downs and who currently holds the government post of economic secretary to the treasury , and he is the city treasury, and he is the city minister and he has said there will be progress on reforms to banking rules in the coming weeks aimed squarely at this issue. well thank you very much indeed , andrew griffiths. and indeed, andrew griffiths. and just bear in mind with all of this , that last year the banks this, that last year the banks made a profit in this country of a staggering £35 billion over to
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all ready to criticise bp and shell and others when their profits come out. the banks are making a fortune. and when it comes to the purpose of coots and that group, i would suggest this they are 38.6% owned by you and me , owned by the taxpayer. and me, owned by the taxpayer. we bailed these people out in 2008 when through their greed and stupidity, they came close to bringing down the entirety of the financial system. our taxes went up as a direct result of saving these banks. and yet they seem to be more concerned about promoting their own metro politan values than they are about making sure that actually we get our stake back in good order. it's a twisted sense of priorities . order. it's a twisted sense of priorities. is it is it is absolutely . metropolitan elite absolutely. metropolitan elite prejudice . i'm pretty appalled prejudice. i'm pretty appalled and disgusted with this. i could have just gone quietly . i could have just gone quietly. i could have just gone quietly. i could have just gone quietly. i could have just said nothing because in many ways, as they acknowledge in the report, that it's been slightly embarrassing for me to say these things and
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no doubt does huge damage to my own credit worthiness going on from here. you know, the question on the form, have you been refused an account? have you had an account closed? but i'm not just doing this for me. i'm not just doing this for me. i'm doing because i'm really i'm doing it because i'm really fearful that if we continue down this we'll finish up with this route, we'll finish up with a chinese style social credit system where only those that have the right views can fully participate in society. and i will later on in the show describe to you exactly shortly how this system works in china. you can get a lot more of this here on gb news throughout the evening . the daily telegraph evening. the daily telegraph have done on line a very big piece on it. i hope i can help provoke a really big national debate in a moment, i'm going to speak to former chancellor of the exchequer norman lamont to get his reaction .
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radio. >> well, i have to say a lot of reaction coming in from you. i asked if they're doing it to me. are you next? ryan responded by saying the whole situation worries me. the freedoms we fought for in two world wars to defend are being squandered in the most appalling way. freedom of speech must be protected and yes, i'm very pleased to say that's what andrew griffith agreed with as well , kyle says agreed with as well, kyle says via email . agreed with as well, kyle says via email. it's very agreed with as well, kyle says via email . it's very concerning via email. it's very concerning that this could just happen to anyone , even if they don't agree anyone, even if they don't agree with your views. well, remember it happened to a vicar. a vicar went into the yorkshire building society and just asked why is the whole of this building society covered in pride flags? all all i want is an account here. i don't want political lectures. and they close lectures. and they did close down his account, john, via
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email says, i am speechless . s email says, i am speechless. s what do any of the banks reasons for dumping you have to do with what banks do ? well, john what banks do? well, john i think that actually cuts very much to the heart of the question. i'm very pleased to be joined by lord lamont, former chancellor of the exchequer, and john has a good point here, doesn't he? i mean, it seems to me, norman lamont, that that somehow through to the public sector and the private sector , sector and the private sector, there's been this political march of the left that's gone on for some years. >> yeah. can i just say i was appalled when i looked at the documents. i've only read them rather quickly, but it seems to me the right to have a bank account is a fundamental right. if you've been a long established customer and it seems to have been closed down because the bank has taken the view that your views as expressed publicly, are not compatible with their values . compatible with their values. but what are the values of
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coutts bank? the customers will have different views on brexit, they will have different views on djokovic and anti—vax, they will different views on global warming . and from the minutes of warming. and from the minutes of the meeting it appears i've only seen what you've provided to me , but it appears that the executive of the bank were going through your views and saying these are incompatible with our values. that is not the function of a bank. and i think it is shocking . i say that having just shocking. i say that having just glanced at the documents, but i really do. >> so how has it happened ? how >> so how has it happened? how how we've had the politicisation in many ways of our civil service, much of our public sector is now overtly political. and now it seems the private sector too. how has it happened ? >> well, 7- >> well, i ? >> well, i think there 7 >> well, i think there are two things here. there is first of all, the regime of the peps, the politically exposed persons that goes back a long way. one can understand why government's taking a global view. the whole world and said we want
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politicians is to be subject to more checks and more scrutiny because they are liable to the temptation of corruption. et cetera . et cetera. globally cetera. et cetera. globally talking not about britain in particular, but that has got completely out of hand. we have the example the other day dominic lawson disclosed that his daughter, who has down syndrome, had been refused a bank account. why? because her grandfather, nigel lawson, had been chancellor of the exchequer . that is completely outrageous i >> -- >> well, it is. emma 5mm hum ham >> well, it is. it is. it is. and this is all because the european union took these international agreements and made no distinction in between domestic peps and international p9ps domestic peps and international peps. domestic peps and international peps . and so nigel lawson's peps. and so nigel lawson's granddaughter was being treated with the same scrutiny as an african dictator. i mean, the whole thing is mad, but it came to us. norman lamont, through an eu directive . and here we are eu directive. and here we are seven years after brexit. it plenty of people i know in the house of lords and their families have affected. why families have been affected. why don't government something?
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>> well, i think government >> well, i think the government are issue . there's are alert to this issue. there's been of pressure. lot of been a lot of pressure. a lot of people in the house of lords are very discontent vented about it. and there's been a lot of complaint in debates. the complaint in debates. and the government of andrew griffiths confirmed you that he confirmed today to you that he was confirming this. so i think it's partly that. but i come back to the first point, this absurd business, the bank has got values as they confirmed in their analysis, that you have not been, they said, as so far convicted of anything yet. >> they can't wait . >> they can't wait. >> they can't wait. >> it's not formally accused. it's not formally convicted of anything . they admitted that anything. they admitted that you've complied with the law. they admitted that you complied with the criteria for being a customer , but your views were customer, but your views were incompatible with theirs. but i think this is extraordinary that a bank should set itself up as some judge of political correctness and should judge the customers accordingly . i think customers accordingly. i think banks will be sorted out into
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good banks, bad banks , good banks, bad banks, reactionary banks, progressive banks. i know they're becoming. but i mean, this is something that will cause the chancellor and the treasury a lot of heartache because i know that he is very worried about this. and i think this will be fed into the inquiry that will not inquiry the review that is already taking place. the fsa also sorry, fca will also be looking at this , i think. looking at this, i think. >> well, i jolly well hope so. now staying with banking, but moving on from me, the number of people that have reached out to me in the last couple of weeks, i'm talking about businesses here, small businesses, whether they're cleaners, whether they're window cleaners, whether they're window cleaners, whether they're running fish stalls, whether they're pawnbrokers, anybody dodi involved, whose business is predominantly in cash , is being given a hard time cash, is being given a hard time by the banks and in some cases, in fact, thousands of cases simply being closed down. we know that money laundering goes on. we know that money laundering with the international drugs trade happens on a huge scale. but it
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seems to me the way the banks are dealing with this is punishing the innocent . punishing the innocent. >> yeah, but i think you're talking about something different there. yeah, but it's still yeah, it's still still banking. yeah, it's still banking. you're determined to have banks. i am? have a go at the banks. i am? >> yeah. well, not >> yeah. well, i'm not necessarily your on that. >> generally. i mean, i think people are always very critical of the fact that of banks and the fact that they're too money, they're making too much money, which you've already made a point on this programme. and also when things are getting difficult and bank accounts are sometimes closed, people are very critical of that. but this is completely different. this is about closing down bank accounts, political views for political reasons , and it should political reasons, and it should not be allowed to happen in a free society. well it is beginning to happen and i mentioned in my talk in that refinitiv, one of the big agencies , they are now going to agencies, they are now going to work with banks to monitor social media posts of banks, customers . customers. >> so this could this could extend much more widely. >> yeah, this is also part of a wider movement. esg the criteria
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of environment, social governance, social and governance, social and governance issues and it applies also to investment companies, people who are making investments. asset managers are they investing in companies that correspond with the correct values and the environment, governance, governance , of governance, governance, of course, is important, but these go very, very wide , and i think go very, very wide, and i think it's completely impractical as well as completely g od and completely vague that investments should be judged by what they're doing to the environment. i mean, if businesses are complying with the law , that ought to be the law, that ought to be sufficient reason to invest in them. >> well, there is a saying, isn't there? go woke, go broke and certainly certainly bud light with their advert out recently , have had a big decline recently, have had a big decline in sales . in sales. >> the thing about banks, but i think esg is something that needs to be discussed much more because it's at odds with what free enterprise ought to be.
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>> free enterprise is about making profit acting for shareholders , as esg is saying , shareholders, as esg is saying, businesses have other objectives , political objectives. and i don't think this has been critically examined enough . critically examined enough. there's a big backlash against the occurring in america who led this way. and now people are beginning to revolt against it. >> well, it'd be no surprise to you to know that in this document state very clearly that they're pro esg norm. one is free speech under threat? well i think this is a threat to free speech may not be a complete threat to free speech, but it's incompatible with free, free, free speech. >> i mean, it is ridiculous. the number of issues that were i mean , there was a section in the mean, there was a section in the documents. it just said adverse publicity. well, are people to be excluded from a bank account simply because they've had adverse publicity that adverse pubuchy adverse publicity that adverse publicity may be completely unfair. i thought it was extraordinary that it should just be a list of things, whether it was you supporting mr
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djokovic , supporting president djokovic, supporting president trump, you couldn't make it up. don't tell me that other customers of goods don't support mr >> well, i might not agree with you, i'm sure there are lots you, but i'm sure there are lots of who support mr trump. of people who support mr trump. >> course, was >> and of course, there was global warming well. and of global warming as well. and of course, of all, brexit and course, most of all, brexit and most of all brexit. >> norman lamont, thank you. yes, be forgiven . now yes, i'll never be forgiven. now i've a couple of times i've mentioned a couple of times to you about the china style. the communist chinese parties social credit system, and i met a few you go, yeah, well, a few of you go, yeah, well, i've heard that. don't i've heard of that. i don't really know it works. well, really know how it works. well, let's have a look at what our dystopian may be in just dystopian future may be in just a will explain all of a moment. we will explain all of it
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cameras, more state surveillance, more fines , more surveillance, more fines, more controls. but ultimately , if controls. but ultimately, if they can take away your bank account , they can make you account, they can make you a non—person . well, i'm joined non—person. well, i'm joined very pleased to say , by dan very pleased to say, by dan david, founder of financial investigation firm wolfpack research, host of the wolf den podcast and lead protagonist in the documentary the china hustle. and dan joins me from the united states of america. thank you very much indeed for joining us on gb news. dan thank you, nigel. >> it's good to see you again. >> it's good to see you again. >> good to see you again. now now, as i say, what's been happening to me and you know, vickers and various people having their bank accounts closed because of their opinions , not because they broken the law , not because they've law, not because they've laundered money, but because of their opinions. somehow are not conforming to the bank's new woke values, has led me. and in fact , some newspaper woke values, has led me. and in fact, some newspaper editorials in britain to say the threat here is a social credit system
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like that in china. dan, would you explain to us what it is, how it works? please >> well, first of all, you should have laundered money. they would have kept you in their bank. they love that, especially hsbc, the social credit score was envisioned and implemented under dictator xi jinping . and it works much like jinping. and it works much like a actual credit score, only it's very subjective in in how it is how it is employed scented with cameras as well as paying your bills and things of this nature . they'll watch you if you if you do things drinking in public, um, you know, maybe spitting. all these things are grotesque and i don't agree with them. or there's microphone phones that may overhear your conversation actions you will have a lower score. it goes from 0 to 100 80 to 100 being good, 0
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to 40 being. you can't buy a car. you can't go to certain restaurants. you can't visit family out of town. it can get that you're almost under home arrest under some of it. that you're almost under home arrest under some of it . the arrest under some of it. the lower it goes and what you've been explaining here sounds a lot like it. and so who does the marking, dan? >> you know, i'm just an ordinary person living in a street, doing my job with my family . who decides to mark me family. who decides to mark me up or mark me down? is this sort of local communist officials? how does it actually work in practise >> yeah, it it is the communist party. and i would say and i think you would agree and i've spoken to you before, neither of ourissue spoken to you before, neither of our issue are with the people of china . they're much like us and china. they're much like us and very hard working. and they've helped me in my investigation. but government is so but that government is so oppressive right down to your household . and i think we all household. and i think we all assumed that when we gave them an open market and open economy and our social freedoms, that they would become more like us
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and what they have done among hinckley is they've been able to export a chill on the freedom of speech. no other country in the world has been able to chill the freedom of speech in your country. and my country. but china has done it. they continue to do it with with big media banking and law firms. >> dan , you know, you are one of >> dan, you know, you are one of the people who has spoken out about china. and i'm very grateful to have you on tonight to educate people about what social credit actually means, because , you know, my question because, you know, my question to is , why is there so, so to you is, why is there so, so little discussion in the west as to what china really is as a state, what it's really doing to its people, be it the uyghurs or anyone that's marked down on social credit? why is there so little debate? is it because effectively many in the west are corrupted by their money? >> correct. we sell a lot of kentucky fried chicken in china
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. and that's basically and that's basically it. insert company here. but the strongest foot soldiers that the china communist party has here in the united states are the fortune 500 ceos who who do not want anything but a predictable quarter. and a predictable annual outcome, or that's their job, and they will sell out their own country to do it. unfortunately >> dan, david, it's exactly the same on this side of the pond. if i look at a list of people who've been non—executive directors of huawei, i see a list of the great and the good former big civil servants, business bosses, politicians. it's exactly the same game. dan, thanks for coming on and joining me . and we'll do our best to me. and we'll do our best to wake people up as to what china really is under this awful communist regime. dan, thank you for joining me. now my what the forjoining me. now my what the farage moment? well, there's been all the talk, hasn't there, about the barge. the barge is
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now there in portland next to weymouth . it will take up to 500 weymouth. it will take up to 500 young men. it's been a huge news story, but but let me show you what was happening in the engush what was happening in the english channel in the port of dover this morning . and there we dover this morning. and there we see a border force vessel come in. this was earlier on this morning . and as you can see, it morning. and as you can see, it is absolutely rammed . and there is absolutely rammed. and there they come up the gangway . a they come up the gangway. a whole host of young men. yeah absolutely. rammed another border force vessel, literally backed up behind it. we haven't got out the actual figures for the numbers crossing the english channel today. we're guesstimating that it'll be about 450. and i would have thought tomorrow it'll be the same number. if not more so when you tell us that you're
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government, that you're getting on top of this problem, think about this, that barge and the row about that barge, that barge was filled up today. row about that barge, that barge was filled up today . a barge was filled up today. a barge fill have crossed the english channel today. and another barge fill will cross the english channel tomorrow . now, change of channel tomorrow. now, change of subject in a moment. we're going to talk about a report from the henry jackson society suggesting that there are elements of extremism in relation to blasphemy laws that are still being given turn a blind eye in this country . let's being given turn a blind eye in this country. let's find out more and ask perhaps for suggestions as to what we can do
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outrages , but there are still outrages, but there are still things that go on within communities, within cities in this country that are extremely distasteful and i would have to say, go against pretty much everything we stand for. charlotte littlewood is a research fellow at the henry jackson society. and, charlotte, you've been busy producing a report on this. britain's new blasphemy police. now we hear the word blasphemy and we sort of think of monty python films and going back forever. what does blasphemy mean in a modern context ? context? >> i think for the particular narratives of this report, it's what does it mean in an islamist context, right. so that can really range from anything from the drawing of prophet muhammad through to desecration of the quran. >> so we saw this didn't we, with charlie hebdo . this was the with charlie hebdo. this was the satirical magazine. just to remind people in paris and they were doing caricatures of the prophet . and that's not allowed.
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prophet. and that's not allowed. >> 17 were killed, a murdered . >> 17 were killed, a murdered. >> 17 were killed, a murdered. >> and yet in our culture, well , i mean, i regularly talk about the archbishop of canterbury, who i think is fair game . and who i think is fair game. and the pope comes for in criticism and the churches don't like it, but we accept it. yes >> and i'm sure you wouldn't be regulated in any way from doing that. for example, within a school setting. however, worryingly, what we're seeing is an inconsistent approach from worryingly, what we're seeing is an idepartmentapproach from worryingly, what we're seeing is an idepartment of)roach from worryingly, what we're seeing is an idepartment of educationn the department of education leading approach, leading to a schools approach, which is actually limiting resources around issues around like the drawing of prophet muhammad , where you may be able muhammad, where you may be able to critique the church in the classroom , but you may well not classroom, but you may well not be able to critique islam . be able to critique islam. >> there are some extreme examples , as we saw in examples, as we saw in scandinavia recently , people in scandinavia recently, people in the street burning the quran. i think that's insulting and necessary . you know, you may you necessary. you know, you may you may disagree , be a threat to may disagree, be a threat to freedom of speech in itself. yeah, well, this is right. you know, i mean, i remember, you
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know, i mean, i remember, you know, geert wilders, who's been a big political figure in the netherlands, you saying, netherlands, you know, saying, you i'm a free speech you know, i'm a free speech martyr. i want the quran banned. you know, i just don't believe in that. inconsistency , in that. there's inconsistency, but blasphemy . so point but with blasphemy. so point number one is not mocking the prophet. what else comes under this category . this category. >> not claiming to be muslim. if you are considered to be a part of a heretical sect and that extends to our ahmadiyya, which i know you've taken as a cause. yes, i have. and that is that has seen a murder here in the uk . and what we see across all of the cases in this case study is links to the khatme nabuwwat praise of or praise of those who are deeply anti ahmadi and by that extension of anti—blasphemy. >> and that's where i go into this tool kit and i advise the home office on what they can see, what words people will use, what groups they might be affiliated to, these persons affiliated to, and these persons are cooperating are directly cooperating with the tackle the the schools to tackle the blasphemy issue the local
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blasphemy issue or the local authority or even. >> what does this what does >> so what does this what does a school do? because, you know, a school do? because, you know, a school with teenagers, lawyers, they'll be presumably be trying to teach them that we live a to teach them that we live in a freedom loving . well, i hope freedom loving. well, i hope they are anyway. probably not in every we're living in every case, but we're living in a freedom open, free a freedom loving, open, free speech debate, democracy , and speech debate, democracy, and that we can mock things, you know , not not gratuitously in in know, not not gratuitously in in sight or insult , but we can mock sight or insult, but we can mock things . how sight or insult, but we can mock things. how do they deal sight or insult, but we can mock things . how do they deal with things. how do they deal with the islamists here? and by the way, this is not, is it this is not the whole of the religion of islam. this is a particular be a pakistan problem. isn't it? >> particularly pakistan ? de—man >> particularly pakistan? de—man for the uk context, it differs across europe, actually, depending on the diaspora . so depending on the diaspora. so for us it is particularly a pakistan issue and nearly 70% of our mosques are deobandi barelvis sex from the subcontinent and barelvis lends itself more to this extreme anti—blasphemy notion . so we're
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anti—blasphemy notion. so we're talking about that the schools are approaching it in a haphazard, inconsistent manner because the dup is not giving consistency . so we have two consistency. so we have two particular schools cases, batley and wakefield and the batley case came before the wakefield case. >> remind us of the batley case, right? >> the batley case was the drawing of caricatures by the teacher and the teacher was still in hiding. >> still in hiding, still in hiding. >> and the school apologised and originally he was under investigation . he cleared investigation. he cleared investigation, invited him back to the school. but we haven't seen him since. and we saw mps put forward the welcoming of the apology and then later discussed the death threat. so it was a very perverse way of dealing with the situation, saying, well, we're sorry about the offence and but you really shouldn't issue a death threat. and it really what we need to be seeing from department of seeing from the department of education actually pupils can education is actually pupils can be they might see an be warned that they might see an offensive content and choose to leave opt to leave the classroom
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. than monitor the . um, rather than monitor the resources or issues. apologies around resources because that's thatis around resources because that's that is giving a message of weakness and that should be reflected with our mps or mps should be saying, okay, give, give the pupils the chance to leave so that we don't monitor the that was the batley case and the that was the batley case and the other case. >> so this is just miles down the road. >> wakefield we understand a >> wakefield so we understand a little bit now why the headteacher jumped to communicate with mosque communicate with a local mosque and a and deal with this in a in a very appeasing way because he was understandable, frightened that happened at that the same had happened at batley. protesters outside the school threats school gates and death threats would happen wakefield. and would happen at wakefield. and you concerned and you saw very concerned and mother donning the hijab in the local mosque, apologising for her son's behaviour, who dropped dropped the quran on her autistic son. now, i've done deep investigation into this mosque and it regularly holds extremists who have called for the death of blasphemers or praise those who have killed blasphemers. >> and this is going on in our towns and cities, and it makes a big splash. you know , at the
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big splash. you know, at the time, both those stories made a big splash. then it goes away . big splash. then it goes away. is government acting at all? >> government just isn't drawing up the dots. so what i have done with this report is drawn the dots. these are the same agitators, the same from agitators, the same people from the same ideological backgrounds support the same support courting the same extreme pakistan . we extreme groups in pakistan. we need be watching where the need to be watching where the money going backwards and money is going backwards and forwards we need forwards from pakistan. we need to at these charities and to look at these charities and their connections to look at these charities and theirconnections pakistan, their connections to pakistan, and do a whole body and we need to do a whole body of urdu of work that uses urdu specialists and this all can be unpicked. and there is a toolkit here. there's clear guidance for the department for education. it's an impossible it's really not an impossible task we to be task, but we seem to be hesitating . hesitating. >> well, we're hesitating on this. we're hesitating on, dare i it, gender issues as well. i say it, gender issues as well. and again , that must be and again, that must be a challenge with elements of the islamic community, because when it comes to issues like even gay marriage and many of them are vehemently opposed, there's plenty protests. plenty of protests. >> seen outside schools >> we've seen outside schools around teaching and lgbt around lgbt teaching and lgbt muslims who have given in muslims who have given talks in schools face death threats
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schools that face death threats for saying they can be both lgbt and muslim. there's an ongoing rise of religious conservatism pushing against schools, and we can look at the likes of andrew tate and how he forwarding tate and how he is forwarding that and that's that as well. and that's entering the school setting. there concerning there is a concerning trend of people for this religio people grasping for this religio conservative or male conservative or male conservative identity because i think we're in an identity crisis in an era of identity crisis in an era of identity crisis and islamism and the tate ideology is becoming attractive i >> -- >> it is. charlotte, thank you very much indeed. well that's nearly it from me. and i want to just reiterate with you that everything i've said tonight is not just about me . coots thought not just about me. coots thought by closing my account that i would simply go quietly. they thought i'd be too embarrassed to say in public what had happened. to say in public what had happened . but to say in public what had happened. but i'm to say in public what had happened . but i'm genuinely happened. but i'm genuinely doing this . and every day that doing this. and every day that i get more and more emails and letters coming in about people whose accounts have been closed by the banks because they take cash, people have done
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absolutely nothing wrong. people working in public life , as we working in public life, as we discussed, and their children and their relatives and even their associates having a tough time. and, you know what? if we go on like this , we'll end up go on like this, we'll end up with even lower grade politicians than we've got now. so reform right through the system is needed. now, of course , as our next presenter here on gb news does not fit into that category of low grade members of parliament at all. it is, of course, the one and only jacob rees—mogg. >> good evening, jacob. evening >> good evening, jacob. evening >> so what have you got tonight? what have we got? >> we're going to be talking about the bbc because there's potentially a review of its licence fee. half a million people no longer subscribe to the is this a model that the bbc. is this a model that works people have works nowadays when people have such choice, such a range of choice , they can subscribe to choice, they can subscribe to things, they can view they things, they can view when they want their dumas and not want on their dumas and not being what they ought to being told what they ought to watch. the bbc has these watch. and the bbc has these endless scandals. it's meant to
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be reithian tone and high tone. and then you discover all sorts of going on. the of things going on. the funny thing this this debate thing about this is this debate comes regularly every 18 comes around regularly every 18 months, two years, as you know, and government always says it'll look at it, but it never seems to know quite what to do. >> no, you see, i think the bbc should have to lose the should have asked to lose the licence itself because licence fee itself because actually it's the licence fee that has stopped the bbc growing its revenues . its revenues. >> yeah. if you look at the revenues of netflix in the last of course and hey, hey, i'm going to be watching a test match tomorrow from old trafford and i'll be paying for the privilege of doing so. >> absolutely. privilege of doing so. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> likewise. i've subscribed to >> i it's fingers crossed . i mean, it's fingers crossed. fingers very fingers crossed. i'm very important match indeed. >> but before all of that , let's >> but before all of that, let's get important weather, get the all important weather, the temperatures rising, boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. it's been
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a damp day once again across many central areas . the rain, many central areas. the rain, though, does ease overnight with clear spells emerging, but there will be further showers arriving . on wednesday. we've had a feature move through during tuesday that's pulling away into the north sea at the moment and taking its rain with it, although it will take a while for eastern parts of the uk to be clear of rain and showers elsewhere, lots of cloud remaining , elsewhere, lots of cloud remaining, but the elsewhere, lots of cloud remaining , but the clearest remaining, but the clearest skies will be across scotland and northern albeit and northern ireland, albeit with showers into with a few showers into the north—west temperatures north—west and temperatures where we the clear skies where we get the clear skies dipping the low double dipping into the low double figures mid to high single figures. a milder night to come, though, or 16 though, in the south, 15 or 16 celsius. we wake up celsius. as we wake up on wednesday. still lot of wednesday. and still a lot of cloud around for eastern and central and central england, east wales and some but more widely some showers. but more widely into the afternoon , we're going into the afternoon, we're going to see a mix of sunny spells and showers. the heaviest downpours will eastern england, will be across eastern england, central eastern scotland. central and eastern scotland. the driest weather be the driest weather will be towards wales south—west, towards wales in the south—west, 20 to possibly 23 celsius in the
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south 1819 for scotland and northern ireland. and fast forward to thursday and it's a bright start for many, a cool start to the day. but quite quickly we'll see the cloud build and we'll see showers developing once again. this time the downpours will the heaviest downpours will be across areas. good across central areas. a good chance of avoiding showers in some places and staying dry. fewer showers on friday before wetter weather arrives for the weekend . weekend. >> the temperatures
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