rural the same? also, our rural communities the same.7 also, our rural communities are being left behind. get in touch with me this evening. if you do live in the countryside and you're one of the people whose bus routes have been cut by a quarter in less than ten years. and also, let's talk about apprenticeships. we hear the government discuss them a lot, especially why especially this week. but why aren't investing in aren't we investing in apprenticeships and still insisting go to insisting that kids go to university? all that's come university? all of that's come tonight dewbs& with me bev tonight on dewbs& co with me bev turner. first, the latest turner. but first, the latest news polly news headlines with polly middleton . middleton. >> middlehurst. bev but it's okay. yeah. let's bring you the latest news now. as you've been heanng latest news now. as you've been hearing the top story today, the prime minister says no one should have their bank account closed for exercising their right to free speech. the matter was raised in pmqs by david davis, who described the closure of gb news presenter nigel farage's bank account by the exclusive bank cootes as vindictive, irresponsible and undemocratic. rishi sunak was

asked if the government would need uk banks to inform the treasury about all the accounts they've closed for non—commercial reasons over the last decade. rishi sunak told mps the rules are being reviewed . meanwhile, he was forced to leave parliament today by the back door because of a demonstration by just off oil trying to stop mps from attending pmqs. police made dozens of arrests as well. the other top story on gb news news today, tata , the owner of jaguar today, tata, the owner of jaguar land rover, is set to create 4000 new jobs in the uk through a new electric car battery factory. the £4 billion gigafactory as it's going to be known, is expected to be built in somerset. the prime minister said. it will also lead to thousands more jobs in the supply chain, although it's understood the factory will be backed by significant subsidies from the government amounting to hundreds of millions of pounds. he added it wasn't just taxpayers money that enticed tata to invest in the uk. i was

chancellor. >> i set up something called the automotive transformation fund, which was always there to provide targeted investment in strategic industries where we thought it would make sense. but what is crucial about an investment like this is it's not just going to be about that. it's to be, as i said, it's going to be, as i said, about of the about the quality of the workforce that we have here, the quality of our infrastructure, the and rail connections, the road and rail connections, the road and rail connections, the to regulation the approach to regulation and the approach to regulation and the competitiveness tax the competitiveness of our tax regime, have changed to regime, which we have changed to make for make it more attractive for businesses invest . but businesses to invest. but inflation has fallen today. >> but the chancellor says the government isn't complacent about the current cost of living , and he says he understands people are worried about rising costs. jeremy hunt was responding to the latest inflation figures, which have fallen faster than expected in the year to june . on inflation the year to june. on inflation now stands at 7.9. last month it was 8.7. the office for national statistics says the fall may ease pressure on the bank of england, which had been expected to raise interest rates next

month . rail passengers are set month. rail passengers are set to face disruption tomorrow as train drivers continue their long running dispute over pay . long running dispute over pay. members of the rail, maritime and transport union will strike on the 20th, 22nd and 29th of july, while drivers in aslef are banning overtime this week, the industrial action at 14 train companies will see trains starting later and finishing much earlier than usual in some areas . around half of train areas. around half of train services will run. others will have no services at all. scotland's outgoing chief constable says the investigation into the snp's finances has now moved beyond initial allegations concerning fraud. sir ian livingstone has told the bbc that operation branch form had expanded its remit to examine potential embezzle money and the misuse of funds . since being misuse of funds. since being launched two years ago. it followed allegations that

£600,000 raised originally for campaigning in support of scottish independence had been diverted elsewhere . rishi sunak diverted elsewhere. rishi sunak today apologise to lgbt veterans for their horrific treatment within the armed forces in the past because of a previous ban on homosexuality in the military. it follows an independent review which found that from 1967 until the year 2000, a culture of homophobia, bullying , blackmail 2000, a culture of homophobia, bullying, blackmail and sexual assault existed within the armed forces , which led to some forces, which led to some personnel taking their own lives. lord atherton's report has called for survivors to be paid compensation, which could cost the government up to £50 million. a man has been jailed for 12 years after admitting causing the death by dangerous driving of a pregnant mother of two. frankie jules howe, who was 38, died in may after her car was hit by adil iqbal, who was travelling at 123 miles an hour on the m66 in bury in greater

manchester. frankie's nine year old son and four year old nephew were seriously injured in the incident . and lastly , to the incident. and lastly, to the united states, where the former president donald trump, has lost his bid for a new trial. after the verdict that found him liable for sexually abusing and defaming a celebrated writer. e jean carroll carroll won the lawsuit and was awarded more than £38 million in damages. trump had argued , awarding her trump had argued, awarding her more than £1.5 million in compensatory damages for sexual assault was excessive because the jury found he had not raped her and the defamation was based on pure speculation . you're up on pure speculation. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and the tunein app. you're with gb news, the people's . gb news, the people's. channel >> let me start with an apology

to polly middlehurst. who isn't polly middleton. but of course, polly's never normally on in the mornings when i am sorry got that right. beautifully that wrong. right. beautifully read. polly, always. what read. polly, as always. what would do without you? would you do without you? now? joining panel this joining me on the panel this evening, journalist and former brexit martin daubney evening, journalist and former brexco—founder martin daubney evening, journalist and former brexco—founder ofiartin daubney evening, journalist and former brexco—founder of novaraaubney evening, journalist and former brexco—founder of novara media, and co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani. good to see you both, gentlemen. you need to get in home well. in touch at home as well. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email or on twitter at gb news. right. top story this evening, nigel farage is bank account. no doubt you are aware of this by now. he was all over the front page of the daily telegraph. this story today, account at today, his account was closed at coutts because of his coutts because cause of his political beliefs . in a report political beliefs. in a report by coutts bank it said the committee found that it did not think continue ing to bank with nigel farage was compatible with coutts, given his publicly stated views that were at odds with our position as an inclusive organisation . now this inclusive organisation. now this . i think this is really shocking actually. this story and it all stems from this idea

that we have environmental, social governance rules or esg which use a which form a large part actually of any corporation now even small businesses. and it's the idea that the business has a moral compass, that they are the arbiters of what is and is not acceptable to say, to do frankly , to think. so why are frankly, to think. so why are corporations taking these moral judgements on customers? martin let me start with you. what was your reaction when you heard that? coutts stopping nigel's account wasn't because he didn't have they did try have enough money. they did try to say that for little while. to say that for a little while. that clearly a lie. it's that was clearly a lie. it's because they like him . because they don't like him. >> first of all said >> yeah, first of all they said it because his financial it was because of his financial situation. it was because it was because of his financial sit|was n. it was because it was because of his financial sit|was a it was because it was because of his financial sit|was a politically|s because it was because of his financial sit|was a politically exposed.e he was a politically exposed person. both of those were baseless it's actually baseless lies. so it's actually not social credit. this is moral credit . this not social credit. this is moral credit. this is financial institutions not approving of what you for stand and withdrawing finance . they put withdrawing finance. they put themselves above the state, above law. in that sense . and above law. in that sense. and they are making these choices based on this made up concoction of inclusivity . so inclusive,

of inclusivity. so inclusive, isn't it, to kick customers out? that's the opposite of being inclusive . and now we've had inclusive. and now we've had this kind of woke washing of capitalism for a long time now. we see it with all the big corporations, but we were able to cancel them we didn't to cancel them if we didn't agree with them. if you you agree with them. if you if you see pride flags festooned everywhere local everywhere in your local supermarket, don't supermarket, you just don't go to you find ben to them. if you find like ben and jerry's say, well, let's bnng and jerry's say, well, let's bring more refugees and just don't their overpriced, fat don't buy their overpriced, fat clogged ice cream. but this is corporations cancelling individuals . nigel think individuals. and nigel i think is on the right thing by speaking out because it's not just nigel. we've seen like trans groups, our future trans parents groups, our future , thousands of parents who are concerned about transitioning in secret a perfectly legitimate and concern , which is to and valid concern, which is to be mandated in law by kemi badenoch today, having their accounts closed, metro bank cancelled . laurence fox, cancelled. laurence fox, the reclaim party one. i went there. it was impossible to bank we it was impossible to bank and we saw with justin trudeau, saw this with justin trudeau, with the truckers in canada. you're breaking a blockade on the vaccine. therefore we're just going to cut you off. you

can't even find yourself. so i think nigel has been fantastic by speaking out because this is an insidious trend. we must stop first. the leaders are first. it's the leaders are next. it'll be all of us. >> you of course, they >> but you see, of course, they would say the bank would say we are a private corporate nation. we entitled to provide our we are entitled to provide our services to people . anybody services to people. anybody that we who are you? if you we like who are you? if you believe in the free market and you in capitalism, you believe in capitalism, who are say we should have are you to say we should have this customer? don't this customer? we don't want this customer? we don't want this customer. >> but then as we're >> yeah, but then as we're seeing with nigel, there's been ten and so in the ten more banks. and so in the end, is end, your credit rating is obliterated. and if you have the inability to bank, have inability to bank, then you have the inability function the inability to function to exist, to be a human, exist, to trade, to be a human, to free person. and i think to be a free person. and i think this, this stasi like mentality of, of, you know, let's face it back banks are hardly, you know , the arbiters of pure morality. exactly. that's what this is all about. they're trying to make themselves out to be the good guys. they're anything but the good guys. >> yeah. aaron what do you make of do they have a right as of it? do they have a right as a bank to say, we want this

customer, we don't want this customer, we don't want this customer like customer because we don't like him? that is basically him? i mean, that is basically what saying. we don't what they're saying. we don't want don't something want to we don't it's something about don't want be about we don't want to be banking. don't nigel banking. we don't want nigel farage. us will farage. banking with us will reflect poorly the business. reflect poorly on the business. do have a right to say that? >> absolutely not. you know, it's like saying can landlord it's like saying can a landlord say somebody , well, on the say to somebody, well, on the bafis say to somebody, well, on the basis of your political views, i will you to my will not allow you to be my tenant. that clearly tenant. that is clearly discrimination basis of discrimination on the basis of consciousness. i think we consciousness. and i think we have really interesting have a really interesting microcosm a robot microcosm here of a robot problem, is diversity in problem, which is diversity in this means i, i will this country means i, i will embrace who you are. white, brown, black, gay, straight man, woman, non—binary. doesn't matter as long as you think what i think , right? yeah. but the i think, right? yeah. but the second we talk about diversity of thought, plurality of opinion, then the diversity stuff goes out the window. and by the way, that matters as well for and black people for brown and black people because than because they're more than tolerated space. but tolerated in public space. but the second you deviate from the official on things, official narrative on things, you're big trouble. was you're in big trouble. there was rupert about rupert huck's comment about kwasi kwarteng. can't really kwasi kwarteng. he can't really be . he's a conservative.

be black. he's a conservative. that's just labour. labour mp that's just labour. labour mp that's right. astonish thing that's right. an astonish thing to so a few quick points is to say. so a few quick points is the fact this happened is astonishing. it's unacceptable . astonishing. it's unacceptable. the fact they seemingly lied to the bbc in a private briefing. the fact that the bbc then uncritically published that this is all alleged but need to make those caveats. this story is explosive. and i would say to people who are on the left, don't ignore that just because it's nigel farage. >> well, they haven't just ignored it. they've actually signalled boosted it and jumped on the pile and on board in the pile on and applauded it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so people like paul mason, you sort darling of you know, the sort of darling of the to work for the the left used to work for the bbc, former labour party parliamentary actually parliamentary candidate actually sticking up for coots. this bank we have done £1 million to get in. this guy himself in. this guy called himself a socialist he's purely taken socialist and he's purely taken that viewpoint because socialist and he's purely taken thédoesn't viewpoint because socialist and he's purely taken thédoesn't like ewpoint because socialist and he's purely taken thédoesn't like nigel1t because socialist and he's purely taken thédoesn't like nigel farage.|se he doesn't like nigel farage. and they're coming and listen mate, they're coming for it'll be corbyn for nigel first. it'll be corbyn next. be anybody. and next. it could be anybody. and that's should that's the point. we should forget our politics and forget about our politics and look at the principle. if you have life down have your your life shut down by an institution of your an institution because of your political it won't stop

political beliefs, it won't stop with nigel. it could go anywhere. >> the thing is, and that's why i want to make this i want us to focus this of esg and focus on this concept of esg and what means for businesses. what that means for businesses. so it is a criteria so esg is it is a criteria basically, that has insidiously seeped into business. these are the three pillars of esg. if you run a business, you know exactly what i'm talking about because the idea that you have to practise in a way that is environmentally sound , so you environmentally sound, so you have to reduce your carbon use, you have to reduce your greenhouse gas emissions. et cetera . can you just put that cetera. can you just put that graphic back up again for a minute, please? and also the idea that you have to have a social responsibility so this is okay. we're all right with a lot of this employee benefits, workplace health and safety , workplace health and safety, adhenng workplace health and safety, adhering to labour laws. i think we would all agree those sorts of expectations have made the workplace safer most people. workplace safer for most people. and you get onto idea and then you get onto this idea of governance , ethical business of governance, ethical business practises, avoiding conflicts of interest, perhaps accounting

integrity, but ethical business practises whose ethics? martin because when you say then about it will come for the left, the ethics, which are often in inculcated within these environmental, social governance documents, are incredibly left leaning. yeah. >> and when you look was it 86 times it mentioned brexit? that's right. you know, and let's face it, 17.4 million people, the majority of britain agrees with nigel farage on brexit and they will be on what the same the same watch list. these are mainstream beliefs, you know, supporting djokovic . you know, supporting djokovic. you was in the you know, he was in the wimbledon on sunday, wimbledon final on sunday, almost one now, the greatest living player who took a living tennis player who took a principled stand to not take the vaccine. that's his entitled vaccine. and that's his entitled to do that. >> and that is in the dossier. it was a dossier on nigel farage. this is what coots had produced , and this is what nigel produced, and this is what nigel was able to access from a subject access request . so who subject access request. so who decides? aaron that's that's the idea, isn't it? i think it's so clever. this. this move, this global movement towards we've

all got to think the same way and it has been infiltrated the businesses and that's why these companies are taking decisions like this. >> and it's bad for society as well. again, even if you don't like farage because we can like nigel farage because we can only have good ideas by having bad ones first, that might sound a bit strange, but martin might have a policy. i martin, have a policy. i say, martin, you're wrong about that policy. here's be here's why. martin might then be persuaded. have you persuaded. he said, have you thought and we can thought about this? and we can arrive is arrive at something which is actually sensible way of actually a sensible way of administering a certain area of pubuc idea administering a certain area of public idea of public life. so this idea of wrongthink, it's wrongthink, i mean, it's remarkably the kinds remarkably similar to the kinds of you've got with of obsession you've got with heresy in mediaeval europe. you've broken sacrosanct you've broken the sacrosanct scriptures your scriptures. therefore your opinions matter. that's opinions don't matter. that's a very big backwards step from from we've been as from where we've been as a society , frankly, for more than society, frankly, for more than a century. >> yeah, tonight, nigel, >> yeah, well, tonight, nigel, do , do you think, martin do now, do you think, martin well, the right thing well, he's done the right thing by shining massive by just shining a massive spotlight, and they are naked in pubuc spotlight, and they are naked in public now. >> coots they have to answer. the dossier was leaked to the mail. it's like out there mail. it's like it's out there and they if they had any form of crisis then they

crisis management, then they would have seen this coming. was nigel ever going to take this lying down? was he ever lying down? i mean, was he ever going keep quiet about it? going to keep quiet about it? >> they pick the wrong person, didn't made of didn't they? it made house of commons today. in pmqs, commons today. this in pmqs, i think we might clip think we might have a clip actually of sunak talking actually of rishi sunak talking about it. we suella about it. we had suella braverman tweeted about it to say that it was outrageous that his bank account had been stopped . let's just see if we've stopped. let's just see if we've got this clip of it wouldn't be right if financial services were being denied to anyone exercising right to lawful exercising their right to lawful free speech. >> our new financial services and markets act puts in place new measures to ensure that politically exposed persons are being treated in an appropriate and proportionate manner, and having consulted on the payment services regulations, we are in the process of cracking down on this practise by tightening the rules around account closures . rules around account closures. >> rishi sunak, though, was responding to a question by david davis. david davis said the name nigel farage, rishi sunak, of course, didn't say nigel farage. he didn't go far

enough. aaron he's still saying it's a politically it's about being a politically exposed it's about being a politically exp look, not conservative >> look, i'm not conservative voter. i just see your audience no , i probably never vote no, i probably never vote conservative, find it conservative, but i find it remarkable 13 years of remarkable after 13 years of conservative government, banks can on the can do this to people on the bafis can do this to people on the basis brexit. ifind can do this to people on the basis brexit. i find it basis of brexit. i find it absolutely incredible. obviously political parties are meant to govern everyone. that's govern for everyone. that's the ideal cant govern for everyone. that's the ideal. can't even do it for ideal. they can't even do it for people that vote for them. i am perplexed. and one more thing natwest owned 38% by the natwest is owned 38% by the taxpayer . taxpayer. >> so the idea that, yeah , and >> so the idea that, yeah, and the idea that this bank of all the idea that this bank of all the banks can bank british subjects is mind boggling. >> the next big conversation , i >> the next big conversation, i think, is the diversity industry . it's a racket. it's got its tentacles all over public bodies . it's got its tentacles all over private enterprise as now our banks, they're coming up with an arbitrary set of rules where they decide in private who's worthy and who's a heathen, and they're kicked out on the basis of war. and we've got organisations like stonewall and mermaids and climate change

, no doubt they've got all the details about where they stood on lockdowns, on black lives matter. it's a star wars style dossier, decided in private and people excommunicated with people are excommunicated with no i'm so glad has no payback. i'm so glad node has gone up the ladder on this one. >> believe that >> i don't believe that everybody in the room everybody that's sat in the room reading coming with that reading or coming up with that dossier dossier agreed what reading or coming up with that dossbeing ssier agreed what reading or coming up with that dossbeing done. greed what reading or coming up with that dossbeing done. but�*d what reading or coming up with that dossbeing done. but why what reading or coming up with that dossbeing done. but why are 'hat was being done. but why are people too cowardly now? >> want to keep quiet. >> they right. >> they right. >> they right. >> they hope that they'll be the last to be fed to the crocodile. and what this industry and that's what this industry is. a crocodile that is. it's a crocodile that devours us and wants power. devours us and it wants power. it wants money. it wants control. wants wants control. and it wants it wants excommunication. control. and it wants it wants excopicked cation. control. and it wants it wants excopicked onion. control. and it wants it wants excopicked on the wrong target i >> -- >> yeah, well, he's blown it wide apart and credit. all wide apart and all credit. all credit to him. because the other thing that comes out of thing i think that comes out of this, just before this, aaron, just briefly before we go to the break, is coots doing this? have shown how they feel british public feel about the british public like nigel farage may be like nigel farage may not be popular the of popular with mps in the house of commons. with the commons. he's popular with the british so, in other british public. and so, in other words, coots don't them words, coots don't like them ehhen words, coots don't like them either. even if you only think, >> no, even if you only think, say, 20% of the british public, like farage, you're still like nigel farage, you're still

talking excess of 10 million talking in excess of 10 million people. i just the thing people. and i just the thing that really gets me is this is a huge multinational. the communications aspect of it . of communications aspect of it. of course, he could do a subject access request. he can do a subject access request with anything that has his name on it within the company. he such a huge making a huge business making such a schoolboy shock think schoolboy error shock ing think it 52% like nigel. it was 52% like nigel. >> just straight. >> let's just be straight. >> let's just be straight. >> , right. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> thanks, guys. now coming up next, what is the point of labour and our labour and tories? basically the same to the old references of left and right even mean , i think, in right even mean, i think, in politics anymore. this is

news radio. good evening. >> thank you for having me. it's bev turner in for michelle this evening whilst on holiday with dewbs& co keeping me company tonight until 7:00 is journalist and former brexit party mep martin daubney and co—founder of novara media , aaron bastani. so

novara media, aaron bastani. so the labour party have stated that they may not be able to reverse certain benefit cuts and freezes due to dire economic inheritance . but isn't the inheritance. but isn't the labour party supposed to be a party of the left who believe in the welfare state and state intervention? do we even have a left and a right wing in this country any more? martin let me start with you. i think since spnng start with you. i think since spring 2020, the concept of left and right has become utterly meaningless . meaningless. >> yes, we have a uni party. we've had no opposition since the beginning of lockdown for certainly when liam byrne left that famous note in 2010 saying, sorry, there's no money left. the country was £811 billion in debt when our 2.6 trillion in debt. anybody who's naive enough to think that the labour party can suddenly come in and start reversing bedroom taxes, handing out more benefits use the magic money tree has been burnt the money tree has been burnt to the ground, that's suggesting ground, but that's suggesting therefore, that the conservatives created conservatives have created a situation has eroded left situation which has eroded left and right. >> so there's nothing that labour can to position labour can do to position themselves differently .

themselves differently. >> our darkest hour >> well, in our darkest hour dunng >> well, in our darkest hour during lockdowns there during the first lockdowns there was opportunity for there to was an opportunity for there to be an opposition, hang on a be an opposition, say hang on a minute, sure about minute, are we sure about printing £500 billion? are we sure about paying people to not work? are we sure about making children wear masks, all that, all that stuff has been proven to be wrong with the benefit of hindsight, which you and i knew at the time, i think was complete and utter nonsense. there's evidence, they there's no evidence, but they willed labour willed it along. the labour party wanted harder, party wanted sooner, harder, faster more expensive faster lockdowns, more expensive live they're in a live and now they're in a financial black hole. how do they get of it? they can't they get out of it? they can't tax more. already we've tax more. we're already we've already tax already got the highest tax burden war ii. the burden since world war ii. the nofion burden since world war ii. the notion taxes. well, notion of wealth taxes. well, what wealthy people do what are wealthy people do thanks to globalism that starmer likes, off likes, they just clear off abroad and what we should be doing generating wealth by doing is generating wealth by drilling can't do drilling shale. but we can't do that all of the parties that because all of the parties are adhered to. the church of net zero open borders. we have that. net zero open borders. we have that . both net zero open borders. we have that. both parties net zero open borders. we have that . both parties basically are that. both parties basically are the same . they're the same party the same. they're the same party in different rosettes. and i think a lot of people who believe that, okay, it's time

for a change. been 13 for a change. it's been 13 years. vote for years. let's vote for a different it's going to different rosette. it's going to be same cheek a different be the same cheek of a different backside and i think that's where we're heading. there's nothing they both nothing between them. they both stand same stuff. stand for the same stuff. >> that can this all be led >> is that can this all be led back? aaron to traced back to the start of the covid event ? the start of the covid event? because i can't i feel before then there probably was a bit of difference between i felt very clear about what the conservative party stood for. they were lower taxation. they were smaller states, they were free enterprise, they were free market competition in the labour party traditionally higher taxes, bigger state. suddenly the government came in and became the biggest state. i mean, they were so big, they were literally around my sunday lunch table telling i lunch table telling me i couldn't see my mum and now i don't know where sit with don't know where we sit with left right. is there a left and right. is there a difference in increasingly, i don't think there is. >> and recall in 2019, 2017 >> and i recall in 2019, 2017 when you had a profound and obvious difference between

theresa may, jeremy corbyn, bofis theresa may, jeremy corbyn, boris johnson, jeremy corbyn, massive differences and the media was flipping out about it. the centrist establishment was so because electorate so upset because the electorate had i think we've had a choice and i think we've now gone back to something which they wanted all along, which is basically a conservative party which doesn't conserve liberal which doesn't conserve a liberal democratic which is democratic party, which is neither democratic, neither liberal nor democratic, and which and a labour party, which is certainly social democratic and a labour party, which is ce socialist social democratic and a labour party, which is ce socialist . social democratic or socialist. >> and they're all green. yeah, well extent. well, to an extent. >> i mean, all have the >> i mean, they all have the same, i believe in having to address change and i'm address climate change and i'm sure watching this sure some people watching this would but think you would disagree. but i think you have to accept have you have to accept a disagreement on how to get there. it's very like so there. it's very useful. like so for i quite like the for instance, i quite like the green i completely green party. i completely disagree nuclear. i disagree with my nuclear. i think have to have nuclear think you have to have nuclear if to decarbonise if you want to decarbonise quickly. low carbon and in quickly. it's low carbon and in the it's very cheap. the long term it's very cheap. so it's a big so i would agree it's a big problem. we don't have more disagreement them disagreement between them right now. and what i would say is on this policy the this particular policy of the kids child benefit kids and the two child benefit on on two cap on benefits, on on two child cap on benefits, of 1.3 billion, 250,000 of course, 1.3 billion, 250,000 kids would be taken out of poverty if we did it. now people

might say waste of money. you could that about things. could say that about 101 things. i generally think for the for the return investment, that's the return on investment, that's extraordinary. having 250,000 kids poverty, long term is kids in poverty, long term is very expensive. it's very expensive from crime, from health. we want to be a high productivity , high output productivity, high output economy. having that many kids in poverty doesn't help that point. >> go on, i was going to say. but that's the point where they could be different and they're choosing be well. choosing not to be well. >> lies the rub. >> but therein lies the rub. it's the labour party, the it's like the labour party, the party for 20 years as a party i voted for 20 years as a miner's lad from from nottinghamshire was the of nottinghamshire was the party of the working the labour the working classes. the labour party is the party the party now is the party of the middle classes and the benefits classes. be frank, the classes. let's be frank, the working pay for all. working classes pay for it all. they bankrolled and they bankrolled it all and expect expected to. >> party that >> is it the party that benefits? i mean, i just don't know. >> well, evidently, bigger state, dependency state, more dependency is. exactly. martin. exactly. hold on, martin. >> not, because >> evidently not, because they're saying they won't change something by something that was brought in by george last george osborne because at last they've realised that the biscuit completely and biscuit tin is completely and utterly and it's three utterly bare and it's three times worse than in 2010 when labour oven labour i just don't keys over.

there's look, there's always the money. look, we found £2.3 billion for ukraine year. we can't find ukraine last year. we can't find £1.3 starving kids £1.3 billion for starving kids in i would agree in this country. i would agree that starving that british kids starving is more important money more important than giving money to that. to zelenskyy on that. >> agree, but that's not >> we can agree, but that's not going to happen any time soon and need to generate wealth. and we need to generate wealth. but wealth but the money's there wealth instead spending £500 instead of like spending £500 million an electric battery million on an electric battery factory. our factory. actually generate our own sovereignty . but you own energy sovereignty. but you see, can't because they're see, we can't because they're tied see, we can't because they're fled and see, we can't because they're tied and the tied to net zero and the religion will sink it's religion that will sink us, it's going to admire debt going to admire us in debt funding an inefficient energy that conks out when the wind drops and when it's too hot for solar panels. and in a way, that's the one thing actually, that's the one thing actually, that maybe starmer is different because would effectively not because he would effectively not nationalise he nationalise our energy, but he wants great british wants to create great british energy, wants to create great british energy energy business that would >> an energy business that would sort of bring it all in. that's almost the one place. what about education? anything that you see different? course, different? because of course, sunak to kids to sunak wants people to kids to stay school do maths stay at school and do maths until very badly in until 18 went down very badly in my in my teenagers and my house, in my teenagers and keir starmer came out only last week said, actually would week and said, actually i would like introduce public like to introduce public speaking lessons into the

classroom. finally, classroom. i was like, finally, there's one thing that they i can see that have a different image of the future. teacher well, i mean, that is a very small concept of the curriculum. it's not, it's not visionary . it's not, it's not visionary. >> well, he used this word oracy , which oracy which is a word that people use apparently in educational theory . and i educational theory. and i thought, isn't it brilliant? you know , this london lawyer trying know, this london lawyer trying to talk the british to talk to the british electorate using a word that i understand, i'm going make understand, i'm going to make youi'm going make you talk. >> i'm going to make you talk. >> i'm going to make you talk. >> exactly. and what was funny for me was you can imagine boris johnson should johnson saying, oh, we should teach your rhetoric and teach your children rhetoric and logic in schools. the guardian, the hell have the bbc, all hell would have broken keir starmer was broken loose. keir starmer was saying thing. was saying the same thing. he was just word that nobody's just using a word that nobody's ever before starmer ever heard before but starmer nakedly on the same nakedly this week on the same stage as tony blair. >> it was basically left, left, left. lose lose, lose, blairism win. he's a naked blair, right? you and i can both agree this is a bad direction. he's the turd that cannot be flushed. he's back. got his tendrils in back. he's got his tendrils in the labour he's back. the labour party. he's back.

blair is back. >> he wants covid never went away . away. >> he wants digital id, he wants full control, biometric. full state control, biometric. he to be barcodes. he wants all to be barcodes. starmer is on a stage with him. he's in bed with him. we're going get blairism version going to get blairism version two, we've got no money two, except we've got no money to on policies to get us to spend on policies to get us out of hole. where's the out of this hole. where's the money come from? money going to come from? >> terrifying of the future. >> well, martin paints a very vivid picture. going to vivid picture. we're going to have without the have blairism without the economic without economic growth, without the wage going be wage growth, it's to going be quite harsh couple years. quite a harsh couple of years. i suspect. with regards to the blair , your audience suspect. with regards to the blprobably , your audience suspect. with regards to the blprobably unaware audience suspect. with regards to the blprobably unaware ofrdience suspect. with regards to the blprobably unaware ofrdienr it is probably unaware of this. it has 850 global employees. is probably unaware of this. it has 850 global employees . they has 850 global employees. they have been funded by people such as the saudis the us state as the saudis and the us state department . and find it department. and i find it extraordinary that potentially the minister is the next prime minister is sitting somebody saying, sitting next to somebody saying, yep, listen you're yep, i'll listen to what you're saying. listen to the saying. yep, i'll listen to the blair looking blair institute. we are looking in policy capture in real time at policy capture of a future british government by an organisation funded by overseas governments, including the saudis. and yet nobody, nobody in the print media wants to talk about that. if that was bofis to talk about that. if that was boris johnson to boris johnson talking to a former prime

former conservative prime minister their think minister who had their own think tank staff, with tank with 850 staff, with millions overseas, millions coming from overseas, you can bet your the bbc, the guardian, the world and its wife will be round there saying how corrupt it is, why is this any different when you put it like that? >> because course we think >> because of course we think about rishi sunak and jeremy hunt the ultimate hunt being the ultimate globalist. believe globalist. i do. i don't believe any of them will live out either of them will live out their lives this country. i lives in this country. so i think they're of here for think they're sort of here for the and perhaps they're the fleeting and perhaps they're well—intentioned, but you get the impression that this government suitcases government is filling suitcases with cash they all run with cash before they all run out door at some point next out the door at some point next yeah out the door at some point next year. but when you hear that vision of what keir starmer's country that country would look like, that we would tiny pinprick on would be this tiny pinprick on this globe, already said this globe, he's already said he'd in davos than he'd rather be in davos than westminster. like westminster. i don't like that ehhen >> andi ehhen >> and i think he's wearing >> no. and i think he's wearing the right clothing fool the right clothing to fool people things like people around things like brexit. he spent three brexit. you know, he spent three years cancel brexit. years trying to cancel brexit. he led people's vote he led the people's vote referendum. draped in referendum. now he's draped in union dressing union flags it's window dressing behind the mask. he's he's a full on, full on wef globalist . full on, full on wef globalist. but blair's in bed with him.

blair's got his fingers in every pie around the planet. that is a direction of travel. those who want to stick up for national self—interest, that's they get their bank accounts closed. they can't trade a big heavy can't even trade a big heavy sigh at that point because we've sort of concluded , haven't we, sort of concluded, haven't we, that neither of them they're all the same are that labour and the conservatives are so similar and it doesn't feel like they have the interests of this country in their hearts . their hearts. >> and it goes to when people talk about the centre, people hear about the centre all the time. the centre is apparently privatised nation, you know, deregulate nation, all these things . in deregulate nation, all these things. in fact the public is the left of the labour party on pubuc the left of the labour party on public services and the right of the conservative party on immigration and law and order. that's the centre. but nobody wants talk about that. i wants to talk about that. i mean, look, i don't agree with a lot because i'm lot of that stuff because i'm not the right of the conservative on, on, on certain policies. not. but policies. of course i'm not. but that's real centre. but that's the real centre. but that's the real centre. but that's the real centre. but

that's the politics that's precisely the politics that's precisely the politics that allowed that you're not allowed to discuss mainstream or discuss in mainstream media or at westminster, also across at westminster, but also across europe seeing a lunge europe we're seeing a lunge to the right. >> seeing sweden, >> we're seeing in sweden, in italy, spain, in the italy, in spain, in the netherlands, greece, people netherlands, in greece, people want they want want self—protection. they want populism, if populism, that dirty word. if only a conservative only we had a conservative government in this country, people vote it. we people would vote for it. we don't. a conservative don't. we have a conservative party in all but name is the labour party . yeah, right. labour party. yeah, right. >> you, gentlemen . okay. >> thank you, gentlemen. okay. still to come this evening, our rural communities being left behind . bus routes are closing. behind. bus routes are closing. broadband is still slow for many of you living in the countryside and schools are frankly falling down. let's discuss that. don't go anywhere. this is gb news. is that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on . news >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office we have seen a few showers around today. some of those on the heavier side , of those on the heavier side, but increasingly into this evening , they will be easing out

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radio. >> good evening. thank you for joining me. bev turner in for michelle this evening. i've got martin daubney and aaron bastani with me. you've been getting in touch at home. thank you very much. has said , oh, we're much. wayne has said, oh, we're going rural bus going to talk about rural bus routes in a minute. what wayne was talking about. jenny well, ian said martin as ian has said martin is great, as usual, very much . but ian has said martin is great, as usual, very much. but i'm constantly impressed with aaron. sorry, martin. i gave one sorry, martin. i gave his one hand and took away with the other. might not with other. i might not agree with him on everything, but i really

respect how he puts views respect how he puts his views across. i'd to see him on across. i'd like to see him on more. nice, isn't more. well, that's nice, isn't it? chris has said you're it? and chris has said you're two guests could really two current guests could really develop policies develop meaningful policies if you stuck an office you stuck them in an office together a couple of weeks. together for a couple of weeks. they brilliant. they are refreshingly brilliant. we who's watching we never know who's watching this channel. that's not a bad plan. >> couple black eyes and a >> a couple of black eyes and a good manifest. know, i'd good manifest. so you know, i'd have teeth missing. have a few teeth missing. >> and andrew said, got to >> and andrew said, i've got to say, last 30 minutes has say, the last 30 minutes has been riveting viewing. well done to and the panel. i've to you and the panel. i've learned thank you, learned loads. thank you, everybody. well, hopefully the remainder 20 remainder of the show, 20 minutes similarly minutes will be similarly riveting. we're going talk riveting. we're going to talk about you've about rural areas. you've already in touch already been getting in touch with the fact that with this, about the fact that life in rural seems to be life in rural areas seems to be getting harder. and has getting harder. and wayne has said rural route is said our rural bus route is terrible. yet the migrants in portland dorset where portland or down in dorset where the stockholm arrived the bibby stockholm arrived of course a bus service to course get a free bus service to the amenities. gordon says. in my thousands of houses my village, thousands of houses are area. are being built in the area. despite a country road despite a poor country road network, train services are despite a poor country road netvionly train services are despite a poor country road netvionly fourain services are despite a poor country road netvionly four local�*rvices are despite a poor country road netvionly four local buses are despite a poor country road netvionly four local buses a'e despite a poor country road netvionly four local buses a day. now only four local buses a day. our hospital is an our nearest hospital is an hours our nearest hospital is an hour's drive away and there is no bus service. schools are full, dentists are full, doctors

are full. the district and county councils only care about the money. aaron have we just allowed rural areas to slip into allowed rural areas to slip into a gradual state of neglect and decline ? decline? >> you just put it beautifully. i think, you know, i could just repeat those words. it's absolutely what's happened with regard to the buses. what's interesting the last 20 interesting is over the last 20 years, over last 25 years, years, over the last 25 years, busesin years, over the last 25 years, buses in london, people taking buses in london, people taking buses to travel the number of journeys has massively increased. the rest of the country has gone down. so actually, you've got double actually, you've got a double dynamic here, which is the service for most of the country. the overwhelming majority of the country is deteriorating, yet the policy makers, the opinion makers, media, politicians , as makers, media, politicians, as they think, well, the buses are fantastic. i've got a bus coming every two minutes. if i want to go to the strand or to aldwych or peckham, that is not the service the rest of the country. so it's actually even worse than what conveying. so so it's actually even worse than wh.have conveying. so so it's actually even worse than wh.have a conveying. so so it's actually even worse than wh.have a problem. nveying. so so it's actually even worse than wh.have a problem. it'sying. so so it's actually even worse than wh.have a problem. it's getting we have a problem. it's getting worse and the people that can change are the ones actually change it are the ones actually who uniquely

who are experiencing uniquely a very good bus service in london. >> are you urban living for you, martin? i don't know where you live. no. you live out in kent? >> no, i live i live in south—east london. i'm a city lad. born nottingham. but lad. i'm born in nottingham. but in like the bus in terms of like the bus services, i've had terrible bus services, i've had terrible bus service my childhood service most of my childhood and that in a lot of that still exists in a lot of rural areas. and interesting how the allocated fund is 1.1 the total allocated fund is 1.1 billion annually, which is exactly amount exactly half of the amount we're spending seeker spending on asylum seeker hotels. just goes to show you. that's priorities of that's where the priorities of this the entire this country or the entire levelling up fund for the entire uk. last year uk. the second wave last year was billion. so we're was 2.1 billion. so we're spending on asylum seekers spending more on asylum seekers than the entire uk than we are on the entire uk levelling and double the levelling up and double the amount on rural buses. amount we spend on rural buses. in a nutshell, that's the problem. totally lost problem. we've totally lost sight of what matters . rural sight of what matters. rural areas have been taken for granted for decades because they tend more conservative. tend to be more conservative. they votes for they take their votes for granted. they've had a rude awaken in north shropshire last year and in tiverton, and i think those rural areas now are they they're typically older . they they're typically older. they're they're turning to their cars. they're they're turning to their cars . the 44% decrease in bus

cars. the 44% decrease in bus journeys since lockdown. oh i wonder why elderly people who tend to live in the countryside don't want to get on a bus where we're by the we're being told by the government two years we government for last two years we might yeah you know, might die? yeah you know, everything consequence everything has a consequence and it's policy and it's short sighted policy and funding wrong place. i funding in the wrong place. i think there's going to be a rude, political rude, massive political awakening when we rude, massive political aw toening when we rude, massive political aw to the; when we rude, massive political aw to the next when we rude, massive political aw to the next general when we rude, massive political aw to the next general election.ve go to the next general election. in these precise areas we've taken granted for years. taken for granted for years. and what could is scrap what we could do is scrap idiotic white elephants like the £100 billion actually £100 billion hs2 and actually spend it in communities where they they're on they need it, where they're on their they're forced their knees and they're forced into which increasingly into cars, which increasingly are get the are going to get tax off the road by net zero. and the war on the motorists to rip away money to give to the exchequer is forcing people take expensive forcing people to take expensive journeys and they don't want to go on public transport. unreliable crowded. and they've been told could kill them. >> well, aaron, what do we do with our bus service? is it the kind of thing that you would want to see brought back into pubuc want to see brought back into public ownership, think, public ownership, do you think, 100, know, i'm from >> you know, i'm from bournemouth we to have bournemouth and we used to have

what the yellow bus what was called the yellow bus company. anybody been company. the anybody who's been houday company. the anybody who's been holiday bournemouth holiday in bournemouth seaside, there quite yellow there was quite iconic yellow buses. yellow cabs too. buses. we had yellow cabs too. my buses. we had yellow cabs too. my driver in my dad's a cab driver in bournemouth, licenced cab driver. they used to be yellow as the yellow cabs are as well. the yellow cabs are going. the yellow company as well. the yellow cabs are goingintoe yellow company as well. the yellow cabs are goinginto administration.�*npany went into administration. ian and it's really sad and i just think it's really sad that what makes towns and places unique stuff unique across this country stuff like disappearing . and like that are disappearing. and bournemouth a really bournemouth was a really wonderful place when i was growing and had lots of growing up and it had lots of sort of idiosyncrasies like these buses. they're, these yellow buses. yet they're, they're going. and i think there is something there politically which we want to offer which says we want to offer places a unique identity city, but also things that matter like bus services in the hands of bus services are in the hands of local people. so i think there's the argument, particularly on buses for what i would call common sense socialism. yeah, yeah. >> common sense socialism is very because very expensive because undoubtedly this will be a huge loss because i mean no loss leader because i mean no private has managed to private company has managed to have a single profitable network in britain. the train networks are basically 62% funded by the state. they're already basically privatised , nationalised, sorry.

privatised, nationalised, sorry. so the notion that we should have this this kind of this kind of future armour style state where everyone gets free transport is great. it's for the birds. i'll respond to that. >> i'll respond to that. we subsidise rail companies more now that they're quote unquote privatised, than we did privatised, more than we did when they were in public ownership. this is a very stupid way of administering a rail system . so can make the system. so you can make the argument shouldn't argument it shouldn't be entirely hands. so entirely in private hands. so in japan trains in japan, they have trains in private ownership , the private ownership, but the private ownership, but the private can use the private companies can use the land around stations to develop and to provide better and make money to provide better services . or you can argue for services. or you can argue for something different. i think when it's water, when it's rail, when it's water, when it's rail, when male, genuinely when it's male, i genuinely think in britain we have the worst all worlds. worst of all worlds. >> we do have the worst of all worlds. i'm sure that worlds. but i'm not sure that nationalising is going to nationalising them is going to be solution i you hit be the solution. i think you hit the on the head there. the nail on the head there. martin you these these martin when you said these these decisions implications and decisions have implications and somehow nobody thinks through . somehow nobody thinks through. and what i keep seeing so much at the moment is how the elderly are so disadvantaged by so many

social changes. now and if you lose bus routes in the countryside, that is the difference between that old lady being able to go into the village that day. i would say visit the bank, but the banks are gone. is it the post office? but the post office is gone. go and buy a cup of tea in the shop. but she needs some a card to do that and she might only have cash. and so people are being encouraged, to live being encouraged, sadly, to live these smaller, more isolated, depressing lives. yeah, and there's a convergence of new tech, getting older tech, no impact getting older people hardest in a very people the hardest in a very short period of time. >> and that kind of social change is scary. and as a consequence, people consequence, when people are scared, they tend to retreat into they know and into into what they know and into their that's their bunkers. and that's a terribly thing. people are terribly sad thing. people are driving their cars driving around in their cars more and we have we have more often. and we have we have this love hate relationship with cars. them. cars. people love them. the state them. and as a state hates them. and as a consequence, you know, we're not getting because getting anywhere because i don't agree should pumping agree that we should be pumping billions into bus billions of pounds into bus services, aren't services, that people aren't just working from just using. they're working from home. using bus services

home. they're using bus services less. should actually less. we should actually stop the motorist. the war on the motorist. >> right . thanks, guys. the war on the motorist. >> going ht . thanks, guys. the war on the motorist. >> going to. thanks, guys. the war on the motorist. >> going to take nks, guys. the war on the motorist. >> going to take another s. we're going to take another quick but coming up in quick break, but coming up in just low quality just a moment, low quality apprenticeships are apparently be some companies be rife and are some companies using apprenticeships as just cheap labour? this is .

gb news. welcome back to dewbs& co with me this evening. bev turner. thank you for joining me this evening. bev turner. thank you forjoining us. now, thank you for joining us. now, 47% of all apprentice apprentices dropped out of their courses last year, so it's ridiculous, really , isn't it? ridiculous, really, isn't it? and nearly half aren't finishing them. they were blaming career prospects and poor as just prospects and poor pay as just some of the reasons, but there's clearly a problem here and we should shouldn't we? should be, shouldn't we? investing in vocational skills. let's a listen to what let's have a listen to what rishi sunak has said on this topic. now for many people, university is the right answer and it does brilliantly. >> but actually there are a

range of people who are being let down by the current system. they're being taken advantage of with quality courses that with low quality courses that don't to a job that makes don't lead to a job that makes it worth it leaves them financially worse off. that's what we're clamping down on today. same time, today. but at the same time, making that young people making sure that young people have fantastic have a range of fantastic alternative opportunities , alternative opportunities, whether be apprentices or whether that be apprentices or higher higher technical qualifications , for example. so qualifications, for example. so the message is, look, you the key message is, look, you don't have to go to university to succeed in life. there are a range of fantastic options and that's what we're delivering . that's what we're delivering. >> big change that martin >> it's a big change that martin isn't it, to hear the prime minister say you don't all have to to university, it's one to go to university, it's one thing that is different from tony trying to pretty tony blair was trying to pretty much there. much get get everybody up there. but he right? but is he right? >> i think he is right. certainly when you look at the demographics , i'm a white demographics, i'm a white working lad . i'm the least working class lad. i'm the least likely demographic of all in likely demographic now of all in britain to go to university . and britain to go to university. and that. did you go? i did. i was the first lad in my family to go

and i repaid that investment many, many times. but i went because back in my day show my age, i got a full grant. and so the prospect of somebody who's not in how to handle not trained in how to handle money, in debt scary. money, £50,000 in debt is scary. and don't think a lot of and i don't think a lot of working are working class people are equipped that sort of equipped to take that sort of thing an apprenticeship thing on an apprenticeship scheme. however, was by scheme. however, that was ran by the and the way, the government and by the way, the government and by the way, the needs step the government needs to step in because business do because big business won't do it. guess why? they're addicted to labour from overseas? to cheap labour from overseas? precisely. the precisely. we saw this week the government for more government crying out for more visa withdrawals for bricklayers, for plasterers . you bricklayers, for plasterers. you know, back in the day before the brexit referendum even became a thing , i was brexit referendum even became a thing, i was on sky brexit referendum even became a thing , i was on sky news all the thing, i was on sky news all the time. they were tradesmen time. they were saying tradesmen contacted the time saying contacted me all the time saying i'm out because i can't i'm dropping out because i can't compete polish lads compete with the polish lads with the latvians, the ones with the latvians, all the ones who coming over. and they who are coming over. and they were undercutting them. and so were undercutting them. and so we whole generation of we lost a whole generation of tradesmen they were tradesmen and they were never replaced because replaced with schemes because big business wants to pay below british market rate. it used to be a position in the political left british workers left to pay british workers a higher wage. those days are

gone. we'd rather pay an albanian or a latvian below our rate and that's what that's what's keeping them hooked on this source of labour this cheap source of labour even this cheap source of labour ever, though, aaron. >> how we ever get the >> how will we ever get a the next generation of may of tradesmen in i am going to say men because it is predominantly men. but of course there are some fantastic female electricians, plumbers, etcetera . but it really is those old fashioned blokey occupations is just not appealing anymore to teens, to british teens. how do we get them back into it? >> they earn a lot more money than graduates as well. in the long term. and i think there's right now there's a very strange penod right now there's a very strange period for an apprentice from 16 to 18. the minimum wage is, i think, £5, now, the long think, £5, 28. now, the long term, makes sense to term, it makes economic sense to do do really well. do it. you'll do really well. you'll earn a great living for decades. year old doesn't decades. but 16 year old doesn't think that. they well, think like that. they say, well, i can go down the supermarket an £11 or i can go to £11 an hour or i can go to university and i can get a massive loan and i can access cheap credit and pay back those nine grand fees in 20 years time or what need to do,

or whatever. what we need to do, i or whatever. what we need to do, | , or whatever. what we need to do, i , is raise apprentices i think, is raise apprentices minimum wages to the level of the regular minimum wage. now i think that's a very simple thing to do and that would solve so many supplemented by many problems, supplemented by the well, here's the the government. well, here's the question. how do we do question. so how do how do we do it? because it? right. because big businesses going businesses aren't going to want to that. think you're to do that. i think you're probably to have a mix probably going to have a mix where the government in where the government puts in a little bit. you're going to have to ask of businesses and to ask more of businesses and maybe have a situation where maybe you have a situation where you you're an you say when you're an apprentice 16 to 18, you can access a very low interest rate, five loan. we do that for five grand loan. we do that for students. do it for students. why don't we do it for electricians, this students. why don't we do it for elwhatians, this students. why don't we do it for elwhat you're this students. why don't we do it for elwhat you're talking this students. why don't we do it for elwhat you're talking about.his is what you're talking about. >> could come up with >> see, we could come up with a great policy together for this. i go further and i would mandate a percentage of workers a percentage of british workers that be taken on by that had to be taken on by companies domestic. companies as in domestic. i don't mean wipe it. i mean domestically british domestically trained british born to companies, domestically trained british borrshould to companies, domestically trained british borrshould take to companies, domestically trained british borrshould take on companies, domestically trained british borrshould take on 20%panies, domestically trained british borrshould take on 20% and as, domestically trained british borrshould take on 20% and the you should take on 20% and the government subsidise government should subsidise their that's their training. and that's a huge fantastic investment in huge and fantastic investment in young that should be young people that we should be doing they will pay doing more of. they will pay you back. obsessed back. look, rishi is obsessed with knows i can't lay with al. he knows i can't lay bricks. can't plaster walls.

bricks. i can't plaster walls. we need electricians , we need we need electricians, we need sparkies. we need plasterers. more than ever. and we shouldn't be importing them. should be importing them. we should be training people . training our own young people. >> so do you think? so do >> so what do you think? so do you really what he you think that's really what he was at there code? was getting at there in code? why doesn't he just come and why doesn't he just come out and say why doesn't he come say that? why doesn't he come out look, we've got out and say, look, we've got this revolution, we're in the this ai revolution, we're in the middle great reset. we're middle of the great reset. we're going different jobs going to all need different jobs in future. you need to go in the future. you need to go for these sorts of trades. why? why explicit as why won't he be as explicit as that? martin in the same reason that? martin in the same reason that he says need to have that he says we need to have a war on mickey mouse degrees, low value what he means value degrees, what he means is we need stop issuing 400,000 we need to stop issuing 400,000 foreign students year. we need to stop issuing 400,000 fore but students year. we need to stop issuing 400,000 fore but i students year. we need to stop issuing 400,000 forebut i can'tjdents year. we need to stop issuing 400,000 forebut i can't say|ts year. we need to stop issuing 400,000 forebut i can't say that year. we need to stop issuing 400,000 forebut i can't say that because >> but i can't say that because it'd be racist. what he does, he dresses up in a clever way. dresses it up in a clever way. but the of the problem is but the root of the problem is we have many coming we have too many people coming from overseas study or from overseas to study or we have many people going have too many people going overseas to take these professions. the vocations that the working the historic working class professions proud, professions is proud, noble professions. actually, professions. and actually, i think rishi, even though he's having a lot choppy having a lot of a lot of choppy waters recently, on the waters recently, he's on the right yeah. you know what?

>> derek has got in touch. and he said, why did apprenticeships become unpopular? because it became demeaning to became uncool and demeaning to became uncool and demeaning to be in a jacket and be seen working in a jacket and overalls the government made be seen working in a jacket and ovexceedingly�*ne government made be seen working in a jacket and ovexceedingly difficultnment made be seen working in a jacket and ovexceedingly difficult forent made it exceedingly difficult for small single small businesses or single tradespersons to take on apprenticeships. apprentices there point, isn't there, there is a point, isn't there, aaron, just briefly about the fact that it's cool for kids fact that it's not cool for kids like they just they see instagram, they rappers instagram, they see the rappers , they see these big we've run out of time. aaron i'll leave you rapping. you thinking about rapping. >> it is cool. how about that? >> 80 grand a year is very cool. very cool. >> absolutely. lots of you be getting in touch as well, >> absolutely. lots of you be getting iyourch as well, >> absolutely. lots of you be getting iyour support.ll, showing your support. >> temperature's rising. >> the temperature's rising. boxt proud sponsors of boxt solar pro proud sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office . we have seen by the met office. we have seen a few showers around today . some a few showers around today. some of those on the heavier side , of those on the heavier side, but increasingly into this evening they will be easing out for many of us and actually many of some late evening of us seeing some late evening sunshine. showers persisting sunshine. the showers persisting for the longest, though, across the north—east scotland,

the far north—east of scotland, particularly shetland, the far north—east of scotland, particlitnrly shetland, the far north—east of scotland, particlit isy shetland, the far north—east of scotland, particlitisy goingyhetland, the far north—east of scotland, particlit is! going remaini, where it is to going remain rather with rather cloudy overnight with a brisk but elsewhere, brisk breeze. but elsewhere, some intervals, and that some clear intervals, and that will allow temperatures to fall off a touch compared to off a touch more compared to recent down into recent nights, even down into single particularly single figures, particularly in some but those some rural areas. but those clear spells mean that we'll start with fairly decent start off with a fairly decent amount sunshine. first thing amount of sunshine. first thing on thursday , increasingly on thursday, but increasingly into afternoon again, into the afternoon once again, we see those we will start to see those showers up. some of showers bubbling up. some of those could turn on to the those could also turn on to the heavier side. again, there heavier side. once again, there will well scattered, will be fairly well scattered, so be some decent, so there'll be some decent, sunny, bright intervals in between. that sunshine, between. and in that sunshine, temperatures climb to highs around 18 to 24 c around where they should be for the time of year into friday. we somewhat do it all over again. there will be some sunshine, first thing, showers confined to showers perhaps confined to northern begin with, northern areas to begin with, but the but increasingly into the afternoon, there is the potential start potential that they do start pushing way into pushing their way down into eastern counties lincolnshire eastern counties of lincolnshire and as well. always and east anglia as well. always shetland the breezy shetland seeing the breezy conditions through friday, but into the weekend, more of us are going to to our winds going to start to see our winds increase this area of low increase as this area of low pressure to its pressure starts to spread its way in from the west, turning

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gb news. good evening. >> what a very big reaction. the coots closing down my bank accounts and the reasons given. and i have to say it's been amazing to see everybody from the prime minister rishi sunak, to involved to elon musk getting involved and a say, but we're not and having a say, but we're not going to rest here. know what we need to do is get together the thousands people who have thousands of people who have been appallingly been treated so appallingly by our banks and fight our bailed out banks and fight back of that and how to do back more of that and how to do it