in the published papers that we've seen. so a massive win for nigel farage, a huge pr disaster for coutts natwest and the ceo herself who took home £5.2 million last year. is this apology enough? we'll be getting the very latest on that. then in

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and rory smith in the newsroom. well, as you've been hearing, the group ceo of natwest , which the group ceo of natwest, which includes coutts, has apologised to nigel farage after his account was closed. dumas alison rose apologises for what she calls deeply inappropriate comments made about mr farage in the now published paper as she continued saying it is not the company's policy to drop a customer on the basis of legally and held political and personal views. a full review of coutts processes and how these decisions are made will be carried out well. it comes as the treasury announces that uk banks will be subject to stricter rules over closing customers accounts to protect freedom of expression in the illegal migration bill has become law. it will prevent people from claiming asylum in the uk if they arrive through unauthorised means. the government also hopes the changes will ensure detained people are removed, either to their home country or to a third

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is gb news. now though, back to . emily >> welcome to dewbs& co with me, emily carver. so joining me this evening until seven is my panel conservative life peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan and the contributing editor at novara media. michael walker , as novara media. michael walker, as even novara media. michael walker, as ever, please do get in touch with us about all of the topics we're going to be discussing, including that apology to nigel farage gbviews@gbnews.com or on twitter at gb news. your views are already flooding in on that breaking news. but let's tell you about it in more detail. the ceo of natwest has apologised to nigel farage for closing down his bank account. let's have a look at what she said so alison rose, the chief executive, said in a letter, i am writing to apologise for deeply inappropriate comments about yourself made in the now

published papers for the wealth committee . i would like to make committee. i would like to make it clear that they do not reflect the view of the bank. i believe very strongly that freedom expression and access freedom of expression and access to banking fundamental to to banking are fundamental to our and it is absolutely our society and it is absolutely not our policy to exit a customer on the basis of legally held political and personal views. the bank has now offered alternative banking arrangements at natwest , natwest so there's at natwest, natwest so there's quite a lot to go at here. but daniel, let's bring you in to begin with. what is your reaction to this letter? >> i think this makes it worse , >> i think this makes it worse, actually. it's not really an apology. it doesn't restore the situation. he's not being offered his account back. it says that these are the views of the bank, but they don't reflect the bank, but they don't reflect the views of the bank. but she hasn't said what action is being taken put that right, what taken to put that right, what action taken to train, action is being taken to train, if else , the staff who if nothing else, the staff who got so wrong and she is got it so badly wrong and she is hinting and pretending towards the end that it's because nigel farage was a politically exposed person under the money

laundering regulations which of course he wasn't, because that status ceases 12 months after you hold a political office and it's at least two years into it since he was an mep, he hasn't held a political office since. so the whole letter , in my view, so the whole letter, in my view, really just does show that. alison rose dame alison has is either very badly advised or she doesn't understand how bad this looks. this is not over for her. she hasn't also mentioned how confidential information about his account, about his status with the bank appears to have reached the bbc. well that's a key point, isn't it? >> and there is a question about whether the bbc should issue an apology to nigel farage over their false reporting. well, what came to light, they reported that it was because that his bank account was closed because he didn't have sufficient funds . as we now know sufficient funds. as we now know from the published papers, that it was due to his values not aligning with that of coutts . aligning with that of coutts. michael, what's your reaction to

this? you think apology this? do you think this apology is enough ? is enough? >> well, i mean the government have to have said they're going to introduce some regulations which have said they're going to introduce speople gulations which have said they're going to introduce speople will:ions which have said they're going to introduce speople will have which have said they're going to introduce speople will have toich mean that people will have to get explanation get get an explanation if they get their cut and will their account cut and they will have recourse appeal. have some recourse to appeal. that sensible me. i'm that seems sensible to me. i'm not really sure what want not really sure what people want from they want to from alison rose. they want to sort on her knees and sort of get on her knees and grovel for forgiveness. i mean, she took home £5.2 million last yeah >> you would have thought that she'd a more across what she'd be a bit more across what some of her staff are doing. >> i mean, i'm not here to defend multi—millionaire bankers. i suppose . and i do bankers. i suppose. and i do think this has raised worrying . think this has raised worrying. i mean, i think this is a worrying situation. i mean, i would say that it isn't just something that happens to right wingers so palestine solidarity wingers. so palestine solidarity organisations , for example, are organisations, for example, are constantly struggling constantly really struggling to open you open bank accounts because you have the same situation have exactly the same situation where say , oh, they where bankers say, oh, they might be a bit too controversial to bank us, let's just let to bank with us, let's just let them bank someone else and them bank with someone else and if all say that end up if they all say that you end up being denied what is pretty much a right, is to have a basic right, which is to have a basic right, which is to have a bank account. >> yeah, it is quite

extraordinary how they came to close as bank close as nigel farage as bank account how they appear account and how they appear to have the bbc in a have briefed the bbc in a completely different direction covering their backs. what do you think? this about you think? this says about the state these types of state of these types of corporations in our country ? we corporations in our country? we they say very clearly that they have these values. this woman who heads up natwest , which is who heads up natwest, which is the owner of coutts bank talks about how the bank is active in the battle against climate change, that they are prominent in lgbtq rights . they have all in lgbtq rights. they have all of this what one could call woke project going on and they want to be seen as a force for good in the world. do you think that's woke washing? >> daniel i don't know what woke washing it. let me start by agreeing with michael. this is not just problem for nigel not just a problem for nigel farage right wingers. it's farage or right wingers. it's a problem for sorts of problem for all sorts of organisations, including left wing and wing organisations and commercial organisations , commercial organisations, legitimate companies engaged in things that aren't sufficiently woke to meet the criteria of the

banks. and it's got to have a stop put to it woke washing. i mean, the truth is i don't know what they're what they're doing. i think they somehow, especially in our larger corporations , in our larger corporations, they've been gripped with the idea that their job is to peddle a political message rather than to offer better customer services to improve the profit margins of their businesses, keep branches open. in the case of banks , or have any real of banks, or have any real community sense which , you know, community sense which, you know, a branch closing program is not consistent with . so i don't know consistent with. so i don't know where they think they've got this from or why they think their entitled to use companies that have been built up over so many years as a platform for doing this. >> it is quite incredible because all of these banks , once because all of these banks, once they sign up to diversity and inclusion and they talk about how their work practises are inclusive and they like diversity and all these good things that sound very nice. but clearly from this case and from others that we've seen , they're

others that we've seen, they're not very inclusive to those they happen to agree with or don't fit in with. whatever the trendy opinion is right now, we saw in the published papers that they were quoting brexit. there were references to racist and xenophobic . they were racist to xenophobic. they were racist to hoaxes around russia and all of this stuff that could be seen as controversial . i worry. and controversial. i worry. and i think a lot of people at home worry that it's not just about cuts, it's not just about natwest. but could it be that business is up and down this country are taking decisions like this about their customer base? >>i base? >> i mean, it could be. and that's why we shouldn't have unrestrained corporate power and why government why you want proper government regulations sectors and regulations in these sectors and these industries. i suppose there a of throwing there is a danger of throwing there is a danger of throwing the with the bathwater the baby out with the bathwater because policies because lots of these policies will know , inclusion will have, you know, inclusion policies. and that's principally for workers. so it's a large for the workers. so it's a large organisation they've lots organisation, they've got lots of it will be the of employees. it will be the case that i'm sure these organisations have policies about inclusion of lgbt about the inclusion of lgbt people people from ethnic people or people from ethnic minorities about that. >> is it more about pr?

>> is it more about pr? >> well, it probably a bit of both. i mean, you'd have to speak to the people that work for industries, but for the industries, but i wouldn't this is this wouldn't say that this is this nigel farage isn't nigel farage story isn't a reason say company should reason to say no company should have policies to try and end discrimination in workplace. discrimination in the workplace. s here isn't so s now, the problem here isn't so much i think that cootes much that i think that cootes has a political has sort of taken a political position. more that they position. it's more that they have, i think, contravened someone's rights which someone's rights really, which is account. is to have a bank account. i mean, cootes obviously very mean, cootes obviously is a very specific type of bank account for very high value individuals . it's slightly . so potentially it's slightly different if you just different to if you were just with nationwide or hsbc or whatever. do think that is whatever. but i do think that is an issue. the other thing i would probably say we should be wary about is any idea that banks making ethical decisions, ethical decisions. sorry about investments is necessarily bad . investments is necessarily bad. now, what you have at the moment is got banks who, is you've got some banks who, because campaigning from because of campaigning from environmental have said, environmental groups, have said, we want to invest in new we don't want to invest in new fossil extraction, for fossil fuel extraction, for example. that's example. i think that's important. can important. i mean, they can easily say that's actually because decisions, because of commercial decisions, because of commercial decisions, because in because if regulations change in the that could be

the future, then that could be a stranded asset. so basically what i'm saying, something wrong has here. regulation is has happened here. regulation is needed, but the idea that banks should only and any company should only and any company should only and any company should only to maximise should only try to maximise their i think would be a their profits i think would be a mistake as well. >> i don't i don't think >> i don't think i don't think i've that, the fact is i've said that, but the fact is we expect banks and other we also expect banks and other companies law and it companies to obey the law and it is law that you have to is the law that you have to observe the equality act whether you it or not, but it is you like it or not, but it is the law. so they have to be inclusive their policies and inclusive in their policies and their policies their employment policies and not against people not discriminate against people who have protected characteristics under the equality act. and i'd expect that natwest. i'm not saying that of natwest. i'm not saying they they they shouldn't do that. they should because should be doing it because they're required by law. what they're required to by law. what we're here going way we're doing here is going way beyond actually promote beyond that and actually promote ing that that are ing campaigns that that are strayed right into the political area and they're doing this partly, they say, because they can attract young people to work for them that way. but i think they're deluding young people because young brought because any young people brought into today who are into the workplace today who are told your company is going to survive because you've taken a

stand on transphobia or whatever, well, it is being misled. the company will survive if it is commercially viable. and that does, i'm afraid, mean making profits by satisfying your customers. >> yes, i think it is quite interesting how businesses try to entice young people by with all of this stuff . but really all of this stuff. but really a business exists to make a profit and employ people while doing so. and that is a good that is a societal good, that is the good. but it's quite interesting, daniel, in terms of whether cootes has broken the sort of fair treatment of customers rules that the fca sets out , rules that the fca sets out, they've just they've just arrived. >> those rules, they're brand new in terms of consumers are to be confident . be confident. >> they are dealing with firms where the fair treatment of customers is central to the corporate culture. clearly, farage does not think he was treated fairly. there are many of consumers provided of these consumers are provided with kept with clear information, are kept appropriately before, appropriately informed before, dunng appropriately informed before, during after point of during and after the point of sale. farage he sale. again, farage believes he was not treated fairly. this bank could be in trouble. bank could be in real trouble. >> think there are important

>> i think there are important regulatory issues. the trouble is that the financial conduct authority my view, authority is, in my view, a pretty useless regulator , even pretty useless regulator, even though minister andrew though the city minister andrew griffiths, has written to them. now again, he wrote now again, i think he wrote maybe it was a different minister has written to them saying to look this saying you need to look at this and socks up. they've and pull your socks up. they've been to do a review, been asked to do a review, they've been in law. now that they've been in law. now that they have to do a review of how politically exposed persons are deau politically exposed persons are dealt as i say, dealt with, which as i say, doesn't cover farage doesn't cover nigel farage whatever. alison rose tries to say welcomes say and she says she welcomes that fact is that review. but the fact is that review. but the fact is that this is happening, this sort thing happening to sort of thing is happening to politicians, diplomat politicians, judges, diplomat outs and their families through outs and their families through out the country, and they're quietly putting up with it. and we really, in a sense, should be grateful to nigel farage for exploding the issue and exploding the whole issue and getting this coverage because it's him. it's ordinary it's not just him. it's ordinary , decent people no , decent people with no particular money, pensioners, you know, sons and daughters of politicians , those who are politicians, those who are having accounts closed , having having accounts closed, having credit cards taken away from them, because these rules are

being misapplied. overzealously appued being misapplied. overzealously applied by banks who have in many cases outsourced them to agencies who are basically paid to close the accounts down. >> yeah, yeah, absolutely right. and annette's just written in michael. she says the apology from alison rose is not enough . from alison rose is not enough. i worked a bank for many i worked for a bank for many years. had disclosed years. had i disclosed confidential information about a customer's have customer's account, i would have been instantly dismissed. she should . i believe this refers should go. i believe this refers to the well rumour. perhaps that she herself may have briefed a bbc journalist at a charity dinner at one of these very cosy events and said, oh no, no, no, no.the events and said, oh no, no, no, no. the reason we closed nigel farages account is simply because, you know, the finances weren't up to scratch. later we find out, well, that's not exactly the case at all. do you think there's this highlights again just how cosy some of our media is with the likes of big bank bosses . bank bosses. >> yeah, i mean, we've known that for a long time. i think also this is an example of journalists shouldn't just take people at their word. now, i think when this story first

broke, very of the broke, i was very much of the opinion people shouldn't opinion that people shouldn't take at word in take nigel farage at his word in that still don't think that video. i still don't think we should we should wait for the evidence to come out. i think what happened with bbc is what happened with the bbc is it seems they the word of seems like they took the word of someone. want to sort of someone. i don't want to sort of imply the bbc, but imply who told the bbc, but whoever the that this whoever told the bbc that this was his his money was purely because his his money had fallen below the financial threshold. that was misleading and confidential and probably was confidential information. and probably was confidential informati(need to do something that they need to do something about that. i suppose going back to previous point mentioned to the previous point mentioned in yeah, think in the letter, yeah, i think i think fair point. i think that's a fair point. i think that's a fair point. i think going back to previous think going back to the previous point this in part being think going back to the previous point bankss in part being think going back to the previous point banks want art being think going back to the previous point banks want to being think going back to the previous point banks want to employ because banks want to employ young graduates, i think that is true. i don't think that true. but i don't think that should be dismissed. it seems like both saying they like you both are saying they shouldn't to shouldn't bother trying to please their new staff, please their their new staff, their young graduates. >> it's totally >> i just think it's totally phoney. like misleading. phoney. it's like misleading. well, there me too. i sign up to a business. oh great. what do i get? i a bit of unconscious get? i get a bit of unconscious bias training. get? i get a bit of unconscious bias training . i get, you know, bias training. i get, you know, i feel good about myself because we celebrate pride in the canteen . okay? the company says

canteen. okay? the company says that they're, you know, investing in these sustainable projects, but really what they care about is their bottom line. i mean, there are fantastic businesses that do have a lot of value to the world in terms of sustainable ability or whether it's green technology or whatever. but it's a lot of the time it's surface deep with these corporations , is it not? these corporations, is it not? >> yeah, well, i mean, i think absolutely they're just there to get line, get their bottom line, essentially. but it's interesting pressures they interesting what pressures they have to respond to. i think have to respond to. so i think what you will see our society what you will see in our society at is the people who at the moment is the people who have the most disposable income tend older, and the tend to be much older, and the people really want people who companies really want to to be much to employ tend to be much younger. so what you will see is older try and use their older people try and use their consumer change the consumer power to change the practises corporations, and practises of corporations, and younger power younger people use their power as try and change the as workers to try and change the practises owns. practises of corporations owns. now me seems perfectly now that to me seems perfectly natural and we shouldn't be. legislate too legislate waiting or judging too harshly organisation harshly on any organisation which of which responds to either of those pressures. >> you think nigel >> so what do you think nigel should next? he's on at 7:00. should do next? he's on at 7:00. for those watching at home, what does do next?

does he do next? >> does he? i wouldn't advise him he does what him what to do. he does what i think. i think my personal view is he should hold out for a restoration of his accounts. and that's not. it seems to me, to be being offered to him . and the be being offered to him. and the letter is ambivalent because i understand from what he understand only from what he says that he had both personal and business accounts and that the of a natwest account the offer of a natwest account was for personal use. now, was only for personal use. now, i don't know what this letter means. i don't know the facts behind that. but think he behind that. but i think he needs be arguing to get back needs to be arguing to get back to was before. and the to where he was before. and the bank that. bank owes him that. >> yes. it's quite incredible that say, oh, we're to that they just say, oh, we're to going our offer of an going keep our offer of an alternative with alternative account with natwest. well, wasn't natwest. well, that wasn't the product originally product he originally had and has banking with for many, has been banking with for many, many years. well, thank you very much both. now, much indeed to you both. now, moving on, just stop. oil were met with a peaceful counter protest today, but are they becoming a danger to themselves? we'll get into that

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>> welcome back to dewbs& co with me, emily carver, keeping me company still until 7:00 is conservative life peer in the house of lords daniel moylan and contributing editor at novara media , michael walker, thank you media, michael walker, thank you very much indeed. now we're getting a huge reaction in the inbox to that apology from dame alison rose to nigel farage. she is, of course, the ceo of natwest, which owns coutts bank, which is the one this is all over the closure of nigel farage's bank account. of course, now, one thing that's been what someone's asked me is , sir starmer has failed to comment on the coutts debacle. i don't think that has been very british, says andy. yes, keir starmer has been a little quiet on all this. why do you think that? why do you think he might be? >> yeah, i have to say i'm quite confused about it because, you know, keir starmer tends to follow public opinion and i don't think public opinion is going to be particularly on the side bank cancelling side of a bank cancelling someone's bank account out. i don't want to say 100%

don't want to say it's 100% because views, because it because of his views, because it seems there a number seems like there were a number of but if his political of reasons. but if his political views did play part in the views did play a part in the decision, does seem be decision, which does seem to be the does seem to the case, then it does seem to be worrying. if i was keir starmer, i would be using the opportunity about why we opportunity to talk about why we shouldn't have unrestrained corporate is corporate power, why it is important laws to important to have laws to protect the protect consumers from the decisions boardrooms. decisions made in boardrooms. >> just so afraid, isn't >> he's just so afraid, isn't he? stance on he? of taking a stance on anything could be anything that could be considered well, considered controversial? well, he's so much over, he's flip flopped so much over, you know, not right. you know, it's not right. >> takes different >> i mean, he takes different stances on things are stances on things that are considered every stances on things that are consmonths. every stances on things that are consmonths. i every stances on things that are consmonths. i think every stances on things that are consmonths. i think main' few months. i think the main problem nothing to problem is he's got nothing to say. he's got nothing to say because, you know, he's waiting for a group to come in and for a focus group to come in and tell him what to say. and that will months. will change every few months. and change every and his opinions change every few quite. few months. well, quite. >> pamela has written in. >> and pamela has written in. she congratulations, she says, congratulations, nigel. i do believe, however, she says, congratulations, nigedame believe, however, she says, congratulations, nige dame alison e, however, she says, congratulations, nigedame alison e, hovneeds she says, congratulations, nige dame alison e, hov needs to that dame alison rose needs to go further. but well go much further. but well done so you the people's so far. you are the people's champion. lot of people do see champion. a lot of people do see this win for the british this as a win for the british people, not just nigel farage. >> and i think there are two things, aren't there? the first

is people do realise that this is people do realise that this is not like being told you can't use asda, where you can of course still buy food if you are told by a bank you can't operate, you can't have an account and we forget it's not just coutts . he hasn't been able just coutts. he hasn't been able to get a bank account with several other banks either. then you become a non—person and, and it's absolutely crucial. it's quite a frightening thought. you think about it for a moment. it's quite a frightening thought and he's made a lot of people think about it and that's why they're on his side . it's not they're on his side. it's not just about being nigel farage. they've thought about it as their own experience. now, at their own experience. now, at the same time, we have to say there are a lot of poor people in this country who can't get bank accounts, and we aren't always enough them, always doing enough for them, and banks enough and the banks don't do enough for them and you just and the banks don't do enough for tit01 and you just and the banks don't do enough for trto think and you just and the banks don't do enough for trto think about you just and the banks don't do enough for trto think about the] just have to think about the circumstances of having circumstances of not having a bank account, not being able to make payments, make electronic payments, not being a debit card, being able to use a debit card, and how serious they are. and it's brought this to home

people. >> yes, exactly that. and we are likely to see new rules implemented which will force banks to explain why they have closed your account, which i think should be standard , think should be standard, really, don't you? but we will come back to this. but let's move on, because there is lots of news, isn't there? now of other news, isn't there? now there's little bit of there's a little bit of controversy see this controversy. see this morning the european union has allowed the european union has allowed the use of the name isla's malvinas. i pronounce malvinas. i think i pronounce that in official documents that right in official documents due from argentina , due to pressure from argentina, china, the falklands is, of course, british course, an overseas british territory its citizens are territory and its citizens are british subjects. so should the eu be sticking their oar into uk business? are the eu being vindictive or is this just diploma ? see michael, i'll come diploma? see michael, i'll come to you. what do you make of this story? because to me it seems quite obvious that this was a silly thing to do , could be silly thing to do, could be provocative, could even be dangeh provocative, could even be danger. using this danger. arras to be using this name , the argentinian name for name, the argentinian name for the falkland islands and potentially, i mean, britain will obviously oppose it. >> i suppose the question is why

is this happening right now? and the reason it's happening right now is because they want to sign some of deal with argentina some kind of deal with argentina and particularly and they don't particularly have to into account britain to take into account britain s views we're no views anymore because we're no longer of the of longer a member of the bloc. of course, any eu member state is going have backing of eu going to have the backing of eu negotiators goes to any negotiators when it goes to any meetings such as this. the eu have decided here that it's in their self—interest. think their self—interest. i think this their this is purely in their self—interest. i don't think it's up two it's them sticking up two fingers i think they fingers at us. i think they think that they can get better relations argentina they think that they can get better rela falklands argentina they think that they can get better rela falklands forward|a they say falklands forward slash maulvi which i think is maulvi inas, which i think is the which was in the the wording which was in the document. but i think it's perfectly legitimate for the for the side to dispute the british side to dispute that. purposefully that. daniel purposefully provocative european provocative from the european union ? provocative from the european uni no,’ think carelessly >> no, i think carelessly provocative . i think like so provocative. i think like so much that they do they don't know they're the know what they're doing half the time. do think there's time. but i do think there's a bigger question which is bigger question here, which is how they see great britain, united kingdom and the interesting thing about the european union is they have profound difficulties in developing friendly relations

with any other countries . they with any other countries. they have a sort of chinese empire relationship with their near neighbours who are held in a sort of tributary relationship to them . switzerland is a good to them. switzerland is a good example and if switzerland misbehaves, they come in and close their stock exchange down and things like that of the stop giving them access to the stock exchange, they can't apparently have friendly or close relations with any other country . you with any other country. you might think they could have friendly the friendly relations with the united after united states because, after all, away. but all, it's a long way away. but just see what's happened. the commission tried to hire this american economist only in the last week, and the french others exploded about it. you can't have an american. there's a deep anti—american streak in brussels as well. in fact , they're sort as well. in fact, they're sort of anti everybody . and they've of anti everybody. and they've got to grow up and realise that if you're going to be a diplomatic player in nationally and get your own way , you need and get your own way, you need to be friends with people who have got basically similar values to yours, even if they have left you. and britain is

quite significant power in europe and we should be able to have friendly and equal relations with them. it's obvious that sunak has tried to do that. i personally think he has failed . we haven't got any has failed. we haven't got any reciprocity at all from the european union and at time perhaps we should, we should say, well, we'll stand aloof until you realise how much we actually do for you, how much of your continent we're actually defending, our air defending, how much our air force and our soldiers are actually defending on the ground and in the air. your your eastern border and maybe then you can come to. but but at the moment, they have this real psychology problem. they can't have equal relations with anybody . anybody. >> well, and also , i think that >> well, and also, i think that this is quite a dangerous move from the european union , because from the european union, because we know that the president of argentina is very much keen to use the falkland islands in order to bolster his support in the country. we know that most argentinians would love to recapture the falkland islands, despite the fact that the vast,

vast, vast, vast majority of people who live in the falkland islands want it to remain as it is. a british overseas territory . do you not think it's a quite haphazard and clumsy from the european union ? and they do this european union? and they do this quite a i mean, you can say quite a lot. i mean, you can say it's clumsy. >> i mean, i wouldn't overstate the territory. i the it's our territory. i wouldn't wouldn't overstate wouldn't i wouldn't overstate to the going to the extent that this is going to have any particular practical ramifications. no, i think the first falklands the first falklands war, one of the reasons it happened is because argentina if argentina didn't quite know if we so committed to the we were so committed to the falklands defend it. think falklands to defend it. i think now probably that now they probably guessed that invading be invading it again wouldn't be such idea. so to me, this such a good idea. so to me, this is probably about domestic politics in argentina, where the president wants to say, look, we've a diplomatic we've had a diplomatic achievement here because eu achievement here because the eu has this the has has called this the falklands and malvinas. now i can see that might seem can see why that might seem a snub to the uk. i don't think it's taking us on the path to a falklands war too. >> you don't think the eu >> so you don't think the eu could use this as its first step to you know what, these to saying, you know what, these islands to back to islands need to go back to argentina or need to go to argentina? just remember argentina? can we just remember

why islands are british? >> not historically, but today they. and same is true of they. and the same is true of gibraltar and for that matter, of northern it's of northern ireland. it's because majority of the because the majority of the population in all three territories want to maintain that relationship as it is . and that relationship as it is. and in all three cases, if they decided that they wanted to be part of some other country, it's almost certain that britain would give way. and that actually is written into an international treaty in relation to northern ireland, not in the other two cases. so but if they want if the gibraltarians said we want to be part of spain, we would not be staying there. we are there to defend democracy , are there to defend democracy, not because of some historical claim . that's the reason we're claim. that's the reason we're there. and people need, you know, the people who are playing with these territories need to realise it's not a game. it's about fundamental principles, democracy and choice and self—determination for territories that that want to choose their own path . choose their own path. >> i pretty much agree. i think

the only thing that the uk could do that would be potentially provocative is to use those citizens on the falklands as an excuse to extract oil from the surrounding area. i can see why argentina be a little bit argentina might be a little bit annoyed if to territorial annoyed if we if to territorial waters a long way waters it's in there a long way from argentina. >> , on that note, let me >> well, on that note, let me know what you think. >> do you think the eu is being a bit vindictive here or are they just being clumsy, as michael the michael suggests? now the competition markets competition and markets authority asda, the authority has said asda, the supermarket taken advantage supermarket has taken advantage of the ukraine war to raise prices. is it war profiteering or just the free market prices. is it war profiteering orjust the free market at prices. is it war profiteering or just the free market at work? let me know that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey, who of your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office? look, a few of us have managed to see some sunny spells throughout today, but there are still a few showers lingering on into the evening and friday as well, evening and into friday as well,

particularly for parts of northern through northern ireland through scotland well. few scotland as well. also a few just clearing their way off the far southeast of england as well. in between we will well. in between that, we will start some clearer spells start to see some clearer spells developing and that will allow those to just slide those temperatures to just slide off into single figures for particularly areas, particularly rural areas, particularly rural areas, particulscotland . and we could central scotland. and we could see close to five, four degrees celsius. of a chill in celsius. so a bit of a chill in the air first thing on friday morning that will allow for some sunshine. there's going sunshine. but there's also going to central area from to be the central area from northern ireland, southern scotland northern scotland down into northern england where it is rather cloudy word and cloudy from the word go. and that continue to push that cloud will continue to push its across the rest of its way across the rest of england and wales throughout the day. of scattered day. the risk of some scattered showers in there as well. more prolonged rain for parts of northern all prolonged rain for parts of nort cloud, all prolonged rain for parts of nort cloud, though, all prolonged rain for parts of nort cloud, though, it all prolonged rain for parts of nort cloud, though, it is all prolonged rain for parts of nort cloud, though, it is going ll that cloud, though, it is going to relatively cool day. to be a relatively cool day. temperatures between 16 and 22 c into weekend. more into the weekend. something more widely will be widely unsettled will be developing frontal developing as these frontal systems pushing their way developing as these frontal sy�*from. pushing their way developing as these frontal sy�*from the pushing their way developing as these frontal sy�*from the atlantic.g their way developing as these frontal sy�*from the atlantic. those way in from the atlantic. those isobars also squeezing together across half of the across the southern half of the uk, particularly southern coast of england, will see some very strong gales , strong winds, coastal gales, perhaps possible later on on

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listening to gb news radio show i >> welcome back to dewbs& co with me, emily carver with me until seven is conservative life peerin until seven is conservative life peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan and contributing editor at novara media, michael walker. there he is . thank you walker. there he is. thank you very much indeed. at home for getting in touch. you've been well, writing to me non—stop , well, writing to me non—stop, particularly about nigel farage and that apology from the ceo of natwest, which we're not particularly impressed by on this panel. i don't think , nick. this panel. i don't think, nick. but let me just go to some of

your comments. stephen says the actions by coots has highlighted an extremely important and dangerous future that we're all blindly heading into. how does anyone live without anyone manage to live without a bank account from having wages and into a to and salaries paid into a to paying and salaries paid into a to paying for everyday life expenses like council rates, car tax many other expenses? tax and many other expenses? yes, we are finding out just how much power some of these big banks do have to exert. jeg says the bank should be doing exactly what it says on the tin banking and of inclusivity these days is anything but inclusive. the banks certainly weren't interested in people's political views or anything else when it came to bailing them out. they just took everyone's money. they managed to be 100% inclusive. then regardless of your views. thank you very much indeed. jay that strong email that was a very strong email indeed. just quickly on the indeed. and just quickly on the falkland thomas says, the falkland, as thomas says, the eu's comment regarding the falklands , was it clumsy? yes, falklands, was it clumsy? yes, probably . was it provocative? probably. was it provocative? yes, definitely . very good yes, definitely. very good indeed. so moving on, the competition and markets authority gave evidence in

parliament yesterday . they said parliament yesterday. they said that asda took advantage of the war and bumped up war in ukraine and bumped up fuel is this just the fuel prices. is this just the free market at work or is there an element of war profiteering going on? i'll come to you, michael, first. you're probably sceptical of some of these big businesses and you know, do you do you buy the view that there's been a bit of greed, inflation? >> i agree with the imf here. they think that 50% of inflation in the eu and europe generally has been because of increased profits. what we hear, are profits. so what we hear, are they really? yeah, they do. so what hear the government what we hear from the government all is that the reason all the time is that the reason we give sector pay we can't give public sector pay pubuc we can't give public sector pay public workers a decent public sector workers a decent pay public sector workers a decent pay and why workers have to pay rise and why workers have to show that was the show restraint. that was the message the governor the message from the governor of the bank last year. they bank of england last year. they say can't possibly that. say we can't possibly do that. you need to show restraint because otherwise what we're going is much higher going to see is much higher rates inflation. what rates of inflation. now, what the showing, what the statistics are showing, what the statistics are showing, what the showing, is that the evidence is showing, is that actually here is actually the problem here is that corporations taking too that corporations are taking too high now part, high profits. now in part, this is because prices is because their prices initially rise because of

increased costs. it seems increased costs. so it seems to be case here asda that be the case here with asda that what is the cost of what happened is the cost of fuel price. so fuel did increase in price. so they did have to increase prices. say . but then prices. you could say. but then when the oil price came down, they didn't lower them again. and means is that they and what that means is that they then get to profit off the difference cost, difference between the cost, the cost, purchasing, oil cost, their purchasing, the oil for they're selling it for and what they're selling it for and what they're selling it for fair to those for to the to be fair to those selling petrol and fuel , did selling petrol and fuel, did they not take massive losses dunng they not take massive losses during the pandemic when people weren't using as much fuel? >> there wasn't as much need for it. and so they need to , you it. and so they need to, you know, make more profit now , know, make more profit now, there's no argument to that. well, i mean, corporations got a lot of support from the government the course of government over the course of the pandemic. >> so think to say now they >> so i think to say now they can price gouge due to a war would probably a bit of would probably be a bit of a mistake. mean, there's two mistake. i mean, there's two ways government can respond ways the government can respond to to sort of make to this. one is to sort of make sure these companies aren't sure that these companies aren't price seem to have price gouging. they seem to have a lot of things to say when it comes to workers demanding pay rises. lot less to rises. they got a lot less to say it comes companies say when it comes to companies who gouging, which

who are profit gouging, which has big an effect on has just as big an effect on inflation. and i would argue as the imf does, a bigger effect on inflation. so they should get involved. the other thing you could tax and could do is a windfall tax and redistribute that money another way. >> well, i don't approve of windfall taxes, but daniel, the cma that supermarket windfall taxes, but daniel, the cma at that supermarket windfall taxes, but daniel, the cma at asdat supermarket windfall taxes, but daniel, the cma at asda when rmarket windfall taxes, but daniel, the cma at asda when rncame to profits at asda when it came to fuel were up considerably. fuel sales were up considerably. the margin p per litre. the margin was 4.6 p per litre. in 2019, that rose to 10.8 p per litre in 2022. that means motor ists may have overpaid by £900 million. that's the sum that they've done. i don't know how accurate that is. what do you say to that ? say to that? >> well over a pound per litre is taken by the government in tax already . so if you want to tax already. so if you want to effect prices at the pump, you . effect prices at the pump, you. very true. you could start there . i think the real actually the real the people really harmed by this inquiry is the competition and markets authority because it's not their job in a it's not theirjob in a competitor market to go around and tell companies what they can charge when there is competition. and as far as i'm aware, there's reasonable

competition in the market for petrol and diesel. so if you don't like the prices at asda, you can go somewhere else. if you're on service station on you're on the service station on the you can usually the motorway, you can usually see before you get to see the prices before you get to the service station. it's the to the service station. it's the to the service station. it's the same if you're driving in the same if you're driving in the street. they're outside, you can and if you don't can see them and if you don't like price, can go like the price, you can go somewhere else and to come in on one particular company and say they're charging too much not they're charging too much is not meant job of the meant to be. the job of the competition markets competition and markets authority. meant their job authority. it's meant their job is if they think is meant to be. if they think there's collusion, there's there's collusion, if there's a market rigged, then market being rigged, and then they down like a they should come down like a tonne bricks. but they're not tonne of bricks. but they're not claiming that here. they're just focusing one company. when focusing on one company. when you choice. you had real choice. >> seems to be >> well, there seems to be a difference in the way that they have assessed supermarkets in terms food and other things terms of food and other things that this seems to be that they sell. this seems to be a that they've only a problem that they've only highlighted comes the a problem that they've only highlbuted comes the a problem that they've only highlbut ai comes the a problem that they've only highlbut a lot comes the a problem that they've only highlbut a lot of comes the a problem that they've only highlbut a lot of peoplezs the fuel. but a lot of people writing found that supermarket sector is competitive. a lot of people writing in do feel, though, that a lot companies though, that a lot of companies have them off. have been ripping them off. we've seen this constantly with our debits . does

our direct debits. does everything to go up at the everything have to go up at the rate it has, be it from your mobile phone contract to your obviously energy? but that's specific example. everything specific example. but everything it seems is going up, are you not? are you sure that not some of that is due to a bit of greed i >> -- >> the great evil here is inflation and the bank of england allowed inflation to get out of control by printing money recklessly over a sustained penod recklessly over a sustained period and then ramping it up massively during the pandemic and then thinking they could get away with that and there wouldn't be any inflation. and it all just transit agent it was all just a transit agent thing. they've been wholly incompetent . so those the incompetent. so those are the people we to blame about people we have to blame about it. inflation total it. and inflation is total corrosive in society and it leads to exactly this sort of it destroys people's incomes, it creates uncertainty. it stops people knowing . but companies people knowing. but companies being able to price goods and services in a way that allows them to plan and it causes this sort anxiety , which is sort of anxiety, which is sometimes might be justified, but in a competitive market, that shouldn't matter in other

cases where there's less competition, like you can't switch your, your, your , your switch your, your, your, your mobile provider every month because you get into a total mess over it. i mean, i couldn't i mean. >> well, that's the that's the case then then then it's more problematic . problematic. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah yeah. competition obviously allows prices to reduce mostly, but obviously not in and inflation allows all sorts of strange and disruptive things to go on. exactly. exactly. we have to come back to this, but just stop oil. we have to go to just stop oil now because they have been met with a peaceful counter protest today. but are they becoming a danger to themselves? i think it's they are .

welcome back to dewbs& co. with me, emily carver, keeping me company tonight is daniel moylan, conservative life peer in the house of lords and michael walker, contributing

editor at novara media. thank you very much indeed. just had a few emails about asda, who has come under criticism from the competition and markets authority for potentially profiteering with its fuel prices. jill says asda were consistently the cheapest for fuel around here near colchester . well go figure and david says why has asda been singled out throughout? i found their prices often cheaper than other supermarkets . well that's a supermarkets. well that's a little bit confusing , but on little bit confusing, but on farage and that apology from natwest ceo alison rose , sid natwest ceo alison rose, sid says the wonderful and popular nigel doesn't just need the bank apology , but the bank should apology, but the bank should reopen all of his accounts that have been closed and do the same for any other person. they have done well yes, a lot of done this to. well yes, a lot of people may well be contacting their banks to find out why exactly their account closed exactly their account was closed . that's what nigel farage has been encouraging people to do. if they suspect perhaps if they suspect that perhaps their closed for their account was closed for other reasons than was said or perhaps they never found out what reasons were, that

what the reasons were, that seems be the for some seems to be the case for some people. moving on to our people. but moving on to our final story, just stop. oil protesters were met with a counter by protesters were met with a c(group by protesters were met with a c(group called by protesters were met with a c(group called just by protesters were met with a c(group called just stop by a group called just stop beeping. everyone off. is this the way to stop them? perhaps peaceful people power or are the police not pulling their weight? there an incident where there was also an incident where a just stop oil protester got kicked in the head . obviously, kicked in the head. obviously, we should abhor violence in this form, but it does feel like a bit of a powder keg at the moment. ah, just stop. oil beginning to endanger themselves , particularly when the public seem to be taking things into their own hands. michael, what do you make of this? well, just stop beeping us us off group . i stop beeping us us off group. i won't say what they are actually called. >> well, i suppose it depends if i saw there, there was a ring around the just stop oil protesters. so i suppose if they're not allowed to leave, does that count as kidnap? i'm not not an expert in not sure. i'm not an expert in the here. the in the law here. >> can we get some video up again we can. again if we can. >> the question, suppose is >> the question, i suppose is are just stop oil protesters

are are just stop oil protesters putting themselves in danger in harms and i think they are. harms way? and i think they are. but think to be fair, you but i think to be fair, you know, where due, know, credit where it's due, that shows much that shows just how much conviction have like conviction they have like i wouldn't myself wouldn't necessarily myself stand road to stop cars stand in the road to stop cars for a variety of reasons. but you can't say these people are doing thing because what doing an easy thing because what they is subjecting they are doing is subjecting themselves arrest, but also themselves to arrest, but also to violence, to vigilante violence, apparently yesterday. to vigilante violence, appwell,.y yesterday. to vigilante violence, appwell,.y yezthat ay. to vigilante violence, appwell,.y yezthatay. quite, >> well, yes, that was quite, quite but as quite terrible to see. but as people see on the screen people can see on the screen there, those the there, those were the counter—protests circling the counter—protests in circling the just oil protesters and just stop oil protesters and preventing them from basically disrupting the traffic . and then disrupting the traffic. and then here we have a man who is very angry indeed, and brutalises this activist kicking him straight in the head by the looks of things, it does look very dramatic indeed. now, that is not the way to deal with activists, but i imagine there are a lot of people who are absolutely infuriated by being disrupted . daniel, is it disrupted. daniel, is it surprising ? surprising? >> i want to draw attention to another fact. >> i just thought you got a bit bored just having a look at your

phone. >> i'm looking up here. we have three by elections today going on. do. and there on. we do. and there isn't a just stop oil candidate in uxbndge just stop oil candidate in uxbridge where i've looked. there isn't a i imagine there isn't in selby and somerton isn't one in selby and somerton ehheh isn't one in selby and somerton either. and we live in a democratic society. and. and why are they not putting their arguments in front of people at the polls so that people can vote for them and then we can decide what level of support they've actually got? so that's a good daniel. you a very good point, daniel. you know, this is what they're trying to do is a tiny number of people who i think are nutty. i mean, think they've become mean, i think they've become completely point completely obsessed to the point of irrational behaviour. tiny completely obsessed to the point of irraticofl behaviour. tiny completely obsessed to the point of irraticof peopleiour. tiny completely obsessed to the point of irraticof people trying tiny completely obsessed to the point of irraticof people trying to 1y completely obsessed to the point of irraticof people trying to force number of people trying to force their other others and their views on other others and i don't think that deserves praise for being brave. i think thatis praise for being brave. i think that is actually on the margins of rationality . and when we have of rationality. and when we have here, you know, we've got tremendous opportunity, we've got count binface has made the effort. he's out there. there is a green party. there's somebody who even thinks we might rejoin the eu. i think i would say you can't i can't say you're

probably going to break some electoral laws there. >> read them all out >> we need to read them all out and get my name. >> never be asked back. you'll never be asked back. but you know they? where are know where are they? where are they , michael, just on they anyway, michael, just on that point , it is true that they that point, it is true that they could for election and could stand for election and make voices and no make their voices heard and no one really thinks it's that brave to walk slowly in front of traffic with mates. traffic with your mates. >> so think what should >> so i think what we should recognise a liberal recognise is that in a liberal society there are many ways to try and influence the public debate standing debate other than standing for election. standing election. of course, standing for is one. there are for election is one. there are ways that wealthy people do so. wealthy people put £20 million into venture capital, into gb news try and take the news to try and take the conversation. a little bit to the stop getting conversation. a little bit to th

everyone that there is a large choice of candidates at the uxbndge choice of candidates at the uxbridge by—election i uxbridge by—election in which i don't read out just don't have time to read out just now. how. >> now. >> but m- now. >> but are about to have >> but you are about to have nigel farage with you. he is in where is he? i think he is in wales, actually. newport. he is in newport for you. he'll be giving his take on that apology i >> -- >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey. who of your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office? look, a few of us have managed to see some sunny spells throughout today, but there are still a few showers lingering on into the evening and friday as well, evening and into friday as well, particularly parts of particularly for parts of northern through northern ireland through scotland . also few scotland as well. also a few just clearing way off the just clearing their way off the far of england as far southeast of england as well. between will well. in between that, we will start see some clearer spells start to see some clearer spells developing that will developing and that will allow those temperatures slide those temperatures to just slide off single figures for off into single figures for particularly areas, particularly rural areas, particularly rural areas, particularly of particularly for parts of central could see

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