gb news. >> good evening. i'm rory smith , the group ceo of natwest, which includes coutts , has which includes coutts, has apologised to nigel farage after his account was closed. dame alison rose apologises for what she calls deeply inappropriate comments made about mr farage in the now published papers. she continued, saying it is not in the company's policy to drop a customer on the basis of legally held political and personal views. a full review of coutts's processes and how these decisions are made will be carried out. speaking on a show here on gb news, this evening, nigel farage says questions remain for natwest.

>> it was a reiteration of the offer to give me natwest services. this offer was made verbally to me just before i went on air on gb news a couple of weeks ago. i also wonder if i go to natwest, how long will it be before they close me down.7 because there's no guarantee me that they'll keep me as a customer. and that does genuinely concern me . genuinely concern me. >> polls have now closed in today's three by elections in england . all three seats in england. all three seats in uxbndge england. all three seats in uxbridge and south ruislip, selby and ainsty and somerton and frome have been held by the conservatives since the last general election in 2019. voting will continue through the night. the prime minister's press secretary has previously acknowledged it would be tough for the party to hold all three seats. the illegal migration bill has now become law. it will prevent people from claiming asylum in the uk if they arrive through an unauthorised means. the government also hopes the changes will ensure detained

people are removed either to their home country or to a third country. the home secretary says the focus is now on appealing to the focus is now on appealing to the supreme court to make rwanda one of the countries people can be sent to . strikes by health be sent to. strikes by health workers could end up costing hospitals billions of pounds . hospitals billions of pounds. that's according to matthew taylor, the head of the body that represents nhs organisations. he says they're on red alert for the next 48 hours. a senior doctor has walk out over pay. he says health leaders are deeply concerned by the impact that strikes are having. the government says it has listened to the bma's demands . but meanwhile real demands. but meanwhile real passengers faced disruption today in the first of three days of strike action. this month. up to 20,000 rail staff are on strike over job security to 20,000 rail staff are on strike overjob security and strike over job security and pay, strike over job security and pay, which caused disruption and cancellations across many services. 14 train companies in england were affected . members

england were affected. members are also walking out . that'll be are also walking out. that'll be on the 22nd and 29th of july by tv , online, dab+ radio and on tv, online, dab+ radio and on tunein. this is gb news. now, though, time for headliners . though, time for headliners. >> hello, welcome to headliner. >> hello, welcome to headliner. >> i'm simon evans joining me tonight . my >> i'm simon evans joining me tonight. my good friends louis shaffer and nick dixon. >> oh, i like that . >> oh, i like that. >> oh, i like that. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> yeah, it's all right, isn't it? it.7 >> it's it? >> it's better than i was expecting. i'm a good friend. >> they often tee me with >> they often tee me up with something embarrassing. i then have of. have to retract in a of. but that's fairly new. >> more perfunctory, as >> this was more perfunctory, as if by someone else. yes. if written by someone else. yes. and you just met us tonight. you know what.7 >> i'll take it. >> i'll take it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> are short staffed at the >> we are short staffed at the moment, so the likelihood of teasing has diminished. let teasing has diminished. so let us the front us take a look at the front pages. the daily mail kick off

with an apology of sorts from cootes. from the cootes. but silence from the bbc. we have the telegraph bank boss says sorry to farage over accounts and there is a picture of her with the prime minister. guardian tax payer to fund 45% pay guardian tax payer to fund 45% pay rise for royals despite the cost of living crisis, the i paper has 1 in 6 people will be stuck on the nhs waiting list if doctor strikes continue. warn uk s top medics the daily express fury over plan to axe pension tax break and finally metro just stop foiled and those were your front pages as. so we kick stop foiled and those were your front pages as . so we kick off front pages as. so we kick off the in—depth look with the telegraph louis my good friend simon good to see you. >> yes bank boss says sorry to farage over accounts natwest

chief executive apologises for deeply inappropriate quote unquote dossier comments . of unquote dossier comments. of course she didn't apologise for it. >> she basically said we didn't mean anything that we said, but they they said it. they cancelled the person's account. this woman, dame alison rose, sounds like a jewish girl from great neck, where i grew up in new york. find that name very attractive. a chief attractive. she's a chief executive natwest, owns executive, natwest, who owns coutts and it's i think it's it is a victory for nigel but i think it's more important it just shows that this is a major issue because if people started to take money out of natwest , to take money out of natwest, most people don't know what coutts bank is , but they know coutts bank is, but they know what natwest is , that the people what natwest is, that the people who watch this channel have banking at natwest and i think, i think if, if the tide turned and people said let's punish natwest for treating one of our own, this way and potentially in the future every one of us, you or me, right .7 if that happens, or me, right.7 if that happens,

it could be a bud light type situation with anheuser—busch in america . america. >> it would be, i think, very i mean, obviously, i can't determine whether that's likely to happen, but i think it'd be a very dangerous territory if we started treating banks in the same way do like beer same way that we do like beer brands, fairly brands, which are fairly interchangeable. the interchangeable. but bank the banking think the banking system. i think the important try and important thing is to try and not make that sort of, know, not make that sort of, you know, another front . on the culture another front. on the culture war. >> it's a bit late. i mean, they brought it themselves. brought it on themselves. i mean, apparently is this mean, there apparently is this facebook 10,000 people facebook group of 10,000 people who accounts who have had their accounts closed by natwest. >> so if they all put in subject access then jams access requests, then it jams up just of paperwork just the amount of paperwork alone would be problem. so alone would be a big problem. so the has made a massive the bank has made a massive mistake and it is a victory for nigel farage and for freedom of expression also ceo, expression and also the ceo, though, what's though, if we look at what's happened here, i mean, she's been paid 5.25 million in 2022. either you're aware of what's happening your department and happening in your department and you which is very you approve of it, which is very bad, or you're unaware of what's going on in own bank, which going on in your own bank, which is also bad. so it's very bad for her.

>> and be fair, the comments >> and to be fair, the comments she's made simply don't tally with seen with what we've actually seen anyway. to anyway. no, they don't seem to connect with it. >> they say they do not >> no, they say they do not reflect the view of the bank, but they obviously do reflect the the bank because i'm sorry. >> no, that's right. >> no, that's right. >> we're too polite >> we're being too polite tonight. like we like we work at a bank here it is. >> no, i want to. want to say >> no, i want to. i want to say this it would be this clearly. it would be absolutely horrible that the banking system so crucial. banking system is so crucial. but at end of the day, i but at the end of the day, i think i the bosses need think i think the bosses need the problem. two problems. one is problem that the is the problem is, is that the is the problem is, is that the is bank is owned by 25 is that the bank is owned by 25 or 30% of the british public, 38.6. >> it @ it was $- @ it was it was as 38.6. >> it was it was as high as >> and it was it was as high as 84% post 2008. >> so when people a >> so when people say it's a private company, really true i >> entirely. >> entirely. >> really. i think the >> not really. but i think the most thing is that we, most important thing is that we, the people who are watching this, have power and maybe and maybe natwest has problem . it maybe natwest has a problem. it will teach the powers that be in whitehall and also teach the bankers that the bank of england maybe it would be useful if you went in to set up a bank account if they had a little list of

what their values are and you know who they regarded as being inclusive who they was inclusive and who they felt was a bit like our values a little bit like our values are corporate authoritarianism. a little bit like our values are cor|and e authoritarianism. a little bit like our values are cor|and i authoritarianism. a little bit like our values are cor|and i know�*ritarianism. a little bit like our values are cor|and i know whatanism. a little bit like our values are cor|and i know what is sm. a little bit like our values are cor|and i know what is the >> and i know what is the guardian nick guardian going guardian got nick guardian going after our great king again. >> fund 45% pay >> so tax payer to fund 45% pay rise for royals despite cost of living crisis. so charles has been struggling in the cost of living crisis. so he's getting a pay living crisis. so he's getting a pay rise from the royal family's grant go from 86 grant issued to go from 86 million to 125 million. that's the sovereign grant, which is pegged the sovereign grant, which is pegged against the crown estate portfolio. now, the treasury was saying, look, the guardian claim, we always say the guardian claim, because, you know, fake news, the treasury was spinning it to give the impression king would be impression that king would be taking a cut. it's taking a pay cut. but it's actually pay rise. and the actually a big pay rise. and the treasury have of admitted treasury have sort of admitted that, to the guardian. that, according to the guardian. >> yeah, you know, fair >> so, yeah, you know, fair enough. >> so, yeah, you know, fair enough another it's the >> it's another it's the argument i mean, not you argument i mean, not that, you know, down right, know, when you get down right, you to the basics, of you know, to the basics, of course it's you can dispute whether it it's fair that whether or not it it's fair that he has this estate . but whether or not it it's fair that he has this estate. but is it pegged he has this estate. but is it pegged to the value of the

estate is that's why it's gone up rather than. yeah. so in a sense that's an accurate that's an accurate representation of the facts on that. >> but it says once it goes up, it can never come down. so if the estate start losing money, it's going to have to come out of the, the tax revenue of the, i guess the tax revenue from other other things. and the and the basic problem and i think the basic problem is, is that they're going to give pay rise. there give him a 45% pay rise. there are of people who are millions of other people who who have been cut short. and the other is are the other thing is, is are the people know station , i people i know this station, i know a like a royalist know you're a like a royalist and whatever, but is king and whatever, but it is king charles. does he represent britain or does he represent the one world kumbaya globalist world and the truth is, i think there's a war going on, and maybe i shouldn't say it, but there's a war between the people out there of england who are not being supported by i'm going to get into trouble. >> what you mean. >> i know what you mean. i support the sort of the institution love our institution we all love our queen. but but king charles is, of course, a bit woke and a bit globalist. >> but they've >> i agree. but they've narrowed. i mean, he i believe

he narrowed the terms of he has narrowed the terms of what royal family what what is the royal family and people number of and those people the number of people entitled to get people who are entitled to get some support from the some sort of support from the state. it is being funded state. but if it is being funded from his own property portfolio and that has increased value, and that has increased in value, he's i know, he's i just i, i know, i understand that, you know, you might about that might claim about that, that it's was stolen. it was stolen, but it's 25% of the estates and ultimately isn't it property is theft. you know it's set theft. yeah. you know it's set at 25% of the estate's net profits. >> it's all it's a complicated calculation to know exactly why it's gone up so much. >> that's what i'm intrigued by, because portfolios, because property portfolios, generally have had generally speaking, have had a bit time of it. yeah. bit of a rocky time of it. yeah. >> the last of years, >> the last couple of years, maybe it's not. maybe maybe maybe it's not. maybe it's maybe it because of the housing. >> he's probably invested very shrewdly. he probably owns belgium or something. yeah, but can i say something for the people me.7 people out there watching me.7 >> have seen me in i >> they might have seen me in i think it was season three or season four of the crown where i was an american. played was an american. i played i thought might about you. thought this might be about you. i an american reporter i played an american reporter who interviewing prince who was interviewing prince philip, and he was making a

similar about how he similar complaint about how he wasn't be able to wasn't going to be able to afford his yachts and his castles. >> well, that's an interesting pig- >> well, that's an interesting pig. you. watch it. pig. thank you. you go watch it. so have a look at the so let's have a look at the paper now, louis, 1 in 6 people on the nhs waiting list. >> well, is a non news >> well, this is a non news story. basically, it's the first. whole thing is first. one of the whole thing is non news. but according to the l, non news. but according to the i, owned by the which i, which is owned by the which is daily mail, did is owned by the daily mail, did you know that? in you know that? okay, 1 in 6 people will be stuck on nhs waiting lists doctors strike waiting lists if doctors strike continues. war one it says no estimated 9 million. i personally see. and as you can see how healthy and beautiful i am. i just think i just i love the nhs. it's amazing. you don't have to worry about getting sick. i think. i think today's medical society, the industrial pharmaceutical complex in america and in here in germany, everywhere is unnecessary and is not good value for the dollar. and you should try to stay out of the out of the hospitals. and even if you've got bad disease , even if you've got bad disease, i'm sorry, i'm not going to say it. if you've got a bad disease. >> that just seemed like a

collection of random sentences to but what do think, nick? >> but what do you think, nick? >> but what do you think, nick? >> look , the people are >> well, look, the people are losing even doctors will lose popularity if they keep the strike because it it's strike going because it is it's damaging as well. >> e'- e the thing. >> that's the thing. >> that's the thing. >> so it's not even just about loving the nhs or not loving it though i always have a slight worry talking about doctors in this one of this way on telly that one of them and you go them will see me and then you go in treatment and like you're in for treatment and like you're that attacking on the tv that guy attacking me on the tv and then they they don't check your property or they misdiagnosis. there's always in the mind, got the back of my mind, you've got to careful. train drivers to be careful. the train drivers are like, bang, have pop are more like, bang, have a pop at they won't recognise you. >> they won't recognise you. >> they won't recognise you. >> well, mind you, i do get the train more than i go to the doctor. >> so. well maybe i've got it wrong the train. wrong on the train. >> i had appointment, >> i had an appointment, a regular thing. i have every couple just to keep couple of years just to keep something couple of years just to keep someto ng couple of years just to keep someto a] couple of years just to keep someto a hospital about half went to a hospital about half an hour away. early morning hour away. an early morning appointment. not until i got appointment. and not until i got there find had there did i find that it had been cancelled due the been cancelled due to the strikes. attempt strikes. there'd been no attempt to or anything on to contact me or anything on that. think that's the that. no, and i think that's the first encountered an first time i've encountered an actual, the edge

actual, you know, the hard edge of it myself. and it was extraordinarily annoying. well, he is soft edge it. extraordinarily annoying. well, he you soft edge it. extraordinarily annoying. well, he you shouldedge it. extraordinarily annoying. well, he you should listen it. extraordinarily annoying. well, he you should listen it louis >> you should listen to louis schaefer. stop going schaefer. you should stop going to you should eat to the doctor. you should eat meat. going meat. just just stop going to the hospital. >> you say that >> i mean, you say that sunscreen is a myth and i actually got cancer from actually got skin cancer from not wearing enough sunshine because i do question your misinformation. >> you not have >> no, no, you do not not have gotten me. gotten it from me. >> have time for this. >> we have no time for this. >> we have no time for this. >> we have no time for this. >> we just have time now for the final section of the mirror, nick, which is about prince andrew's julius epstein interview. lies andrew's julius epstein int�*newsnight. lies on newsnight. >> big one because >> so this is a big one because it's court evidence it's bombshell court evidence that contradicts prince andrew's previous newsnight claims that he once previous newsnight claims that he his once previous newsnight claims that he his 2008 once previous newsnight claims that he his 2008 jailing. once previous newsnight claims that he his 2008jailing. but once after his 2008 jailing. but actually did see him again, after his 2008 jailing. but actually toiid see him again, after his 2008 jailing. but actually toiid email�*n again, after his 2008 jailing. but actually toiid email on|gain, after his 2008 jailing. but actually toiid email on 14th, after his 2008 jailing. but actually toiid email on 14th of according to an email on 14th of june where june that year, where epstein told banker, andrew just sat told the banker, andrew just sat next to me at dinner, which seems like email purely next to me at dinner, which seems iase email purely next to me at dinner, which seems ias kompromatiurely written as kompromat on someone, just say , guys, if i ever end just to say, guys, if i ever end up jail, i've got all up in jail, i've got all these emails. up in jail, i've got all these em you what i mean? surely >> you know what i mean? surely that's the only reason you send such banal email. such a banal email. >> understand he was, >> now we all understand he was, i it eric i think what was it eric weinstein wasn't it weinstein was phrase, wasn't it 7 weinstein was phrase, wasn't it ? construct, right? he ? he was a construct, right? he was a he was a fiction. epstein >> he was a kaiser soze.

>> he was a kaiser soze. >> he was a kaiser soze. >> he didn't exist. well, certainly state court activated an external state in order to. so, yeah, he was for gathering kompromat. >> but the point is he was prince andrew yeah . prince andrew yeah. >> an extortion, an extortionist or blackmail. i don't really know what the difference between those things are, but that's one of the worst crimes . i those things are, but that's one of the worst crimes. i mean, there are lots of bad crimes, but i think for men, the biggest fear that we have is the extortionist the blackmailer. extortionist is the blackmailer. >> it's the sex. >> but for me, it's the sex. >> but for me, it's the sex. >> it depends what >> bizarrely, it depends what if, especially if you're doing is the if you're doing extortion, i think. >> yeah. no, louis is it depends what you're doing in your private we don't know what private life. we don't know what louis doing, prince louis is doing, but prince andrew would sweating if louis is doing, but prince an�*could.ould sweating if louis is doing, but prince an�*could. that's sweating if louis is doing, but prince an�*could. that's allveating if louis is doing, but prince an�*could. that's all i'ming if louis is doing, but prince an�*could. that's all i'm going if he could. that's all i'm going to. yeah he could. that's all i'm going to. yearl tell you just as well? >> can i tell you just as well? i don't mean to interrupt you, but to be in the crown but i'm going to be in the crown episode. you're the crown but i'm going to be in the crown episocplayinga the crown but i'm going to be in the crown episocplaying jeffreye crown but i'm going to be in the crown episocplaying jeffrey playing seven playing jeffrey playing jeffrey epstein. >> well, being extorted resemblance. bit resemblance. and you look a bit like what saying. >> that's what i'm saying. >> that's what i'm saying. >> that's what i'm saying. >> that's part one. >> that's my part one. >> that's my part one. >> the joke. coming up, >> that's the joke. coming up, taliban banter, quran burnings and supermarket we'll and supermarket malarkey. we'll

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radio . radio. controversy >> welcome back to headliners with me. simon evans joined by nick dixon and jeffrey epstein. so independent now, nick, when it comes to the taliban, you do not in fact got to hand it to them, it seems. yeah >> this is tobias ellwood facing the fence committee. no confidence vote after taliban remarks. you may well have seen he put out this video and the parts of it were misguided. the music was a bit strange. it was a pro—taliban with upbeat music was a bit strange. it was a pro—asliban with upbeat music was a bit strange. it was a pro—as if an with upbeat music was a bit strange. it was a pro—as if he with upbeat music was a bit strange. it was a pro—as if he was with upbeat music was a bit strange. it was a pro—as if he was launchingeat music as if he was launching a new leisure centre . new leisure centre. >> it was kind of slightly misguided or looking for venture caphal >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> and piers morgan has hammered him music and the him about the music and the music was misguided the tone music was misguided and the tone was misguided. music was misguided and the tone wasbut misguided. music was misguided and the tone wasbut essenceied. music was misguided and the tone wasbut essence of. music was misguided and the tone wasbut essence of what he >> but the essence of what he said wasn't that bad me said wasn't that bad to me because friend who went because i have a friend who went out lived there out and lived there in afghanistan basically out and lived there in afghanistaeverything asically out and lived there in afghanista everything that lly confirmed everything that the ellwood is that ellwood said, which is that since we fled and had to abandon it, over since we fled and had to abandon it, they over since we fled and had to abandon it, they have over since we fled and had to abandon it, they have brought over since we fled and had to abandon it, they have brought a over since we fled and had to abandon it, they have brought a certain and they have brought a certain amount certain amount

amount of law, a certain amount of they've cracked of security, and they've cracked down trade, which down on the drugs trade, which was acknowledged in all the broadsheets was acknowledged in all the broadsthe:s was acknowledged in all the broadsthe massively they called called the massively they called the it was the best counter narcotics ever from the narcotics program ever from the taliban. so we have to acknowledge taliban. so we have to ack they've e taliban. so we have to ackthey've made an actual war >> they've made an actual war on drugs and they've and drugs and they've won and they've won. drugs and they've won and they've but. drugs and they've won and they've but where he's getting >> yes, but where he's getting hammered, of was the hammered, of course, was the opfics hammered, of course, was the optics video. optics of the video. >> and seeming to sound like >> and for seeming to sound like he taliban he was praising the taliban and being idiot for being a, quote, useful idiot for them. what he's them. but really what he's saying he's saying, saying is this. he's saying, let's lost this let's acknowledge we lost this thing. we've left. they've actually done good the actually done a good job of the bafics actually done a good job of the basics. have to work with basics. now we have to work with them for them incrementally on rights for people women's and on people and women's rights and on to economy crashing. to stop the economy crashing. whereas saying, whereas everyone just saying, how they hate how can you say that they hate women? of course, no one has any rights at this point in afghanistan. >> so that's what don't >> so that's what we don't talk about. we're annoyed in the west that like that they don't have like a trans yet. trans darts league yet. >> fact is they've >> but the fact is they've started off with basics. started off with the basics. >> afghanistan on >> ten years in afghanistan on trying trying do that. >> and people have saw that >> and so people have saw that they've done it better than we could. it's it's not that could. it's not it's not that they're not that they're good. it's not that they're good. it's not that they're but he's arguing they're good. but he's arguing for incremental approach they're good. but he's arguing for increrwould approach they're good. but he's arguing for increrwould approkay, where some would say, okay, you can't taliban at

can't work with the taliban at all, be what you're saying. >> the truth is, i'm not going to that i'm going to say i'm to say that i'm going to say i'm going you can't work with going to say you can't work with the taliban, is that going the taliban, is that we're going to we're going to sit there and we're going to change minds change these people's minds about nothing we about women. nothing we lost we lost, you know, saying that it's better france lost, you know, saying that it's bett better france lost, you know, saying that it's bett better run france lost, you know, saying that it's bett better run in france lost, you know, saying that it's bett better run in after1ce lost, you know, saying that it's bett better run in after the was better run in 1940 after the germans came in. well it was probably better run. am i allowed to say maybe allowed to say that? maybe you should vichy. the should say vichy. the vichy government there government was more peace. there was peace france? was more peace. peace in france? >> fighting the >> well, they were fighting the english, at that english, the french at that point. course, you have to point. of course, you have to remember saying, remember that. i'm just saying, we were happy pigs. remember that. i'm just saying, we werwork py pigs. remember that. i'm just saying, we werwork py a)igs. remember that. i'm just saying, we werwork py a lot. remember that. i'm just saying, we werwork py a lot of >> we work with a lot of terrible regimes. i mean, trudeau admired the trudeau said he admired the bafic trudeau said he admired the basic dictatorship china. basic dictatorship of china. i'm just it's just saying he's got a it's a sort of hard nosed diplomatic approach have approach saying we have to work with them. that's he's saying. >> difference here i >> the key difference here i mean, understand the comment, mean, i understand the comment, but that but the key difference is that germany invaded france and germany had invaded france and we afghanistan , we had invaded afghanistan, iran, left. so it's like iran, but we left. so it's like it's like germany left , but it's like if germany left, but france carried on having a regime you didn't like. that would similarity , not would be the similarity, not what you're talking about here. that extraordinarily that is an extraordinarily important . afghanistan has important part. afghanistan has a different culture and

a very different culture and i am, you know, all joking aside, i'm not comfortable with i'm not that comfortable with the they don't allow women i'm not that comfortable with th> we can't. we are america or britain can't even do that here, which is raise up britain and manipulate britain through our government. so what makes us think going to do it in think we're going to do it in afghanistan? we'll it afghanistan? we'll just give it up so often i feel we may have talked past each other there. >> telegraph now geoffrey, and with modern international cons, the riots are coming before the

quran even is burnt nowadays . quran even is burnt nowadays. >> yeah, this is this is a happy story. protesters and along the same lines really, to according the telegraph, protesters storm swedish embassy in baghdad ahead of quran burning in stockholm. and this guy burned a copy of the quran and the police let him and i'll tell you something, i'm in favour of free speech, but burning somebody, it's like shouting in a in a in a in shouting fire in a in a in a in a movie theatre, in a quran, in a movie theatre, in a quran, in a quran so he's set fire to it. and there's the thing. and number one, let's be honest with ourselves is these people are these people in iraq and across these people in iraq and across the middle east and all the muslim countries are way more excitable and fightable and they're more passionate than than we are. and you shouldn't mess with them unless you're prepared to fight with them. this was provoking them. but that's i mean, okay. >> i mean, putting aside, you know, possibly a politically incorrect way of describing people's behaviour, the quran

burning is in sweden and they've got wind of it and they're invading an embassy in iraq. it's not like they've gone to iraq and burnt the quran there , iraq and burnt the quran there, which i think what you described there, that would be if you were a swedish tourist and you were complaining that you burnt an iraq central centre of iraq in the central centre of that would be different. yeah then you would say, oh, come on, you some awareness of you know, have some awareness of what is . what the culture is. >> no, no, this is exactly the same other thing is that same as the other thing is that is that those people in iraq, why they have the why shouldn't they have the right to manipulate swedish government the same way we in britain are trying to manipulate late afghani culture and afghani government . go on. well, it's government. go on. well, it's a good point. >> yeah, if you like. it's a question of whether you think a culture is better when you can burn things like the quran or the bible or whatever, or or whether you think a culture is better where you can't because obviously countries obviously in muslim countries you and they have you couldn't do it and they have saved countries and many positives. but in western country we have we secular

country we have we have secular liberalism. then, you know , i liberalism. then, you know, i would prefer is a christian country where we bring back christian blasphemy because christian blasphemy laws because i'm not convinced that english liberalism from liberalism is separable from christianity anyway. but is christianity anyway. but this is the should be the question should you be allowed it? it's tasteless allowed to do it? it's tasteless as implied. the as you've implied. but the question is, which is a better culture? way can do such culture? one way you can do such things or or not, the swedish things or or or not, the swedish government, this government, i mean, this is interesting sense interesting in the sense that they're words. they're playing words. >> not a million miles away >> it's not a million miles away from natwest . from alison rose at natwest. they absolutely condemn they said, we absolutely condemn burning but we are burning the quran, but we are unable to do anything it unable to do anything about it legally unwilling to legally and we're unwilling to impose it. yeah, impose sanctions on it. yeah, well that's kind of playing well, that's kind of playing with the word condemn, it? with the word condemn, isn't it? condemn from a government should mean that we actually take action against it. i'm not saying they should take action. >> no. but yeah, they're the onesin >> no. but yeah, they're the ones in charge that decision. yeah. >> yeah. but i mean, there's something weird going on, isn't there? sweden , of all there? because sweden, of all there? because sweden, of all the in the world, has had the states in the world, has had a reputation for being the most understand tolerant so understand and tolerant and so on. clearly some on. there are clearly some people finding its people who are finding its tolerance islam beyond its tolerance of islam beyond its broken. some of these people because to burn the quran,

you're right, utterly you're right, it's utterly childish. it's lowering your be honest to their level, to some extent, which is, as you say , extent, which is, as you say, what you saying is that what you are saying is that they're and that's what. no, they're bad and that's what. no, no, i'm not saying they're bad. i'm bad you did i'm saying he's bad as you did that. i'm saying he's bad as you did tha you're the you're >> you're saying the you're saying our christian, whatever that means. no, you didn't listen us or understand it at listen to us or understand it at all liberalism that all that our liberalism that comes christianity is comes out of christianity is better their kind thing. better than their kind of thing. >> point >> no, that's not the point i was making at all. actually, i was making at all. actually, i was making a point. it's a bit too for this format, too complicated for this format, but it was. it what but it was. it was not what i was all i'm saying is was saying. all i'm saying is that think burning that i think burning books, burning childish that i think burning books, burning and childish that i think burning books, burning and you childish that i think burning books, burning and you should try and behaviour and you should try and rise and demonstrate rise above that and demonstrate that politics have that your politics have evolved beyond like it's like >> kind of like quite it's like a tantrum , isn't it? a toddler tantrum, isn't it? it's like, knocking it's like, you know, knocking all off table all the toys off the table because you're not winning the game. it's a it's a game. it's a it's a it's a futile gesture. and like futile gesture. and it is like but again, know, actually but again, you know, to actually throw jail it, throw somebody in jail for it, maybe didn't sell the maybe if they didn't sell the quran in sweden, maybe that would it. would be a way around it. i don't know. >> i'm not saying that. >> i'm not saying that. >> the sun now, a story from 1982. >> the sun now, a story from 198yeah, this is furious. eu >> yeah, this is furious. eu

calls for islands malvinas in new deal as argentina vows to make fresh bid for sovereignty negotiations . so yeah, it's this negotiations. so yeah, it's this weird story where they've just it was breaking last night. they suddenly decided to call it by the old original name or whatever or the name the argentinians won. it's the eu messing with this. basically but it's you sort of it's a bit similar to the story. similar to the coots story. i wonder who came up with it. it's sort of like it's like a twitter into written something into an who's written something ridiculous. feel like ridiculous. you feel like there's the who's there's someone at the eu who's who yeah, call it who said, yeah, yeah, call it the you feel like the malvinas. do you feel like how off on how has this been signed off on do you suspect that it do you do you suspect that it has been done in order to provoke you think it's provoke or do you think it's simply saw it, simply somebody saw it, a spanish looking word and thought, probably its spanish looking word and thou name, probably its spanish looking word and thouname, isn't)robably its real name, isn't it? >> could be either, couldn't >> it could be either, couldn't it, wouldn't it, with the eu, you wouldn't put past the because put anything past the eu because they lot to they do do an awful lot to provoke us. been 40 years. provoke us. it's been 40 years. you know, since it was properly in even in the headlines, i suppose even in the headlines, i suppose even in britain. a lot of people, younger people now not know. >> w know. w- t— >> they might not know. it could just ignorance. yeah, just be ignorance. yeah, but it's an unfortunate kind it's quite an unfortunate kind of ignorance because now it's kicked

of ignorance because now it's kiciit's not something that >> it's not something that britain took over, britain invaded and took over, like thatcher or like under margaret thatcher or something. it's not something like in the like that. we captured in the colonial trying like that. we captured in the co return trying like that. we captured in the co return to trying like that. we captured in the co return to its trying like that. we captured in the co return to its former trying to return to its former pre—colonial. a pre—colonial. it was it's a colony was established by colony that was established by the british remains . the british and remains. >> yeah and the key, the key point is that yeah 99.8% of the falkland islanders wanted to stay of the and that's stay part of the uk and that's the point. the key point. >> and that's it. yeah. so why did eu use that term? did the eu use that term? >> don't it by >> i don't think it was by accident. think eu is accident. i think the eu is proper butthurt over britain leaving. they were fed up with listening having to listen to listening to having to listen to nigel all years nigel farage. all those years before i think they before he left. and i think they just was like two fingers up just it was like two fingers up at it. don't think we can look at it. i don't think we can look for we as for them for help. we're we as a british person, brits is in trouble. is in trouble in the malvinas. the next time there's an attack, will britain have. >> oh, well, they didn't help last they sold missiles to last time they sold missiles to the know, the argies. you know, you remember exocet . remember that the exocet. >> yes. yeah. >> yes. yeah. >> no, there's we don't >> no, there's no, we don't expect yeah. expect any help. yeah. >> think it was like >> so don't think it was like a we won't be looking. >> they're staying with the guardian now, lewis as guardian now, lewis and as someone frequently shops someone who frequently shops while fully endorse

while half cut, i fully endorse this that's you. and you're >> oh, that's you. and you're what that you aren't what does that mean? you aren't you drunk ? oh, drunk. you fully cut drunk? oh, drunk. >> english phrase like so. >> an english phrase like so. >> an english phrase like so. >> words, you didn't >> in other words, you didn't didn't before. didn't hadn't heard before. >> thought like being >> i thought it meant like being circumcised. no, no, no, circumcised. yeah. no, no, no, i. circumcised. yeah. no, no, no, l shop circumcised. yeah. no, no, no, i. shop all the time. i. i shop all the time. >> that's a good name for the show, you're right. show, though. you're right. yeah. yeah >> cut. i'm >> half cut. i'm full cut. and anyway , the guardian make your anyway, the guardian make your price labels clearer . watchdog price labels clearer. watchdog tells uk supermarkets the cma, which is the competitive and markets authority, says said basically that stores are not stoked that stores should not stoked that stores should not stoke food inflation as it looks into competition on key categories such as milk and baby food. and this is this is basically a non—story. you know, it is a real story. is it because it is a real story? because it shows how deep the state goes into every bit and pieces of somebody. you know what it is? >> it's the centralisation. >> it's the centralisation. >> it's the centralised

centralisation . exactly of centralisation. exactly of everything. it's the death of love. it's well, it could cause the death of loves is, is the state is the worst to fight for competition. >> but what we seem to be what the specifics they seem to be talking about is like confusing people with deals. two for three for two. that kind of stuff is it or is that the problem here rather than it could be actually pnces rather than it could be actually prices not coming it's prices not coming down. it's like work out what the like you can't work out what the best deal is, but why should the state company best deal is, but why should the stidoing company best deal is, but why should the stidoing like company best deal is, but why should the stidoing like all company best deal is, but why should the stidoing like all these company best deal is, but why should the stidoing like all these crazyipany is doing like all these crazy deals, another company could come out and say, we're honest with we tesco's and with you, we are tesco's and we're going to tell you exactly how much costs tend to agree how much it costs tend to agree with fair, do you with that. to be fair, do you know, honestly to know, i was honestly bored to tears by this story, so for once i just lewis i was happy just to let lewis round. it because round. well, that's it because it's boring. >> boring story coming up. >> boring story coming up. >> north korea naughtiness t levels in decline. tiktok takeover . we'll see you in takeover. we'll see you in a couple of minutes. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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radio. and welcome back to headliners . and welcome back to headliners. >> so nick, we have international news in the times now. sounds like north korea's american hostage indulged in the usual preliminaries to finding

out, yeah, this is us soldier travis king yelled, ha ha ha! >> as he fled to north korea. wouldn't have been my words , but wouldn't have been my words, but i don't know about fled to he was sort of toyed with it wasn't he? >> was he like kind of like teasing them or something? >> and is it flat if you're going into it? i always think of fled more as leaving. yeah. he tried to go into it and someone who assumed it was who was watching assumed it was some of prank or stunt some sort of prank or stunt for tiktok in the tiktok because we're in the post. era. but of course post. missy era. but of course it actually. and it wasn't. he was actually. and then shouted then someone shouted the soldiers guy. soldiers shouted, get that guy. that's realised it that's when she realised it wasn't. so has a bit of a wasn't. so he has a bit of a this guy, king, has a bit this guy, travis king, has a bit of he punched man of a history. he punched a man in at a nightclub. in the face at a nightclub. we've all been there on one end of the other. and. and of that or the other. and. and in was fined three in february he was fined three about £3,000 by a court in seoul . he's done various little things. >> he's a little bit like unstable . unstable. >> yeah, he's a renegade. he's a maverick. he's a louis schaefer type, not a political dissident necessarily. >> he's more like a stunt orientated thrill seeker and adventurer. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. well, >> yeah. well, i >> yeah. well, i mean,

>> yeah. well, i mean, he's going to find out what it's what it's like. >> do you. do you remember that guy who jumped off a cruise ship as a as lark about a couple of as a as a lark about a couple of months ago never seen months ago and was never seen again totally disappeared, again and totally disappeared, eaten shark or something. eaten by a shark or something. and i think this is what it was. it's a kind of a tragic story. this is what it sounds like to me. it's like just guy who me. it's like just a guy who maybe a bad week, maybe was having a bad week, a bad says, let's bad day, and he just says, let's try something else. and now try for something else. and now he regrets it, he probably regrets it, i suppose the worst. >> the worst thing >> well, the worst thing i suppose him or suppose is they kill him or whatever, but the more whatever, but. but the more plausible bad thing is now just like endless diplomatic like endless grinding diplomatic gears all kinds of gears and all kinds of compromises and humiliations and so on, just because, i mean, i'm almost be inclined to just let him stew, wouldn't yeah. him stew, wouldn't you? yeah. >> biden white >> and it's the biden white house get him out can house has to get him out so can you imagine mean biden won't you imagine i mean biden won't even his name his even remember his name or his own name , but joe biden is own name, but joe biden is trump, course , had managed to trump, of course, had managed to create that. >> joe and detente with kim jong un. they were they were like buddies virtually a rom com . oh, buddies virtually a rom com. oh, well, it's a shame. what was the big, tall, pink haired basketball player? who.

>> brittney griner . >> brittney griner. >> brittney griner. >> griner? yeah. the one went to russia. no no. >> you mean dennis rodman? >> oh, you mean dennis rodman? who? emissary? who? he sent there as emissary? >> yeah, that's who >> yeah. yeah, that's who we need to. >> yeah. yeah, that's who we nee he's around, isn't he? >> he's still around, isn't he? >> he's still around, isn't he? >> rodman could sort this. >> yeah. rodman could sort this. >> yeah. rodman could sort this. >> this is. >> this is. >> this is a job. this sounds like for dennis rodman. like a job for dennis rodman. >> now, lewis a >> guardian now, lewis and a story levels adversely story about t levels adversely affecting young it's not affecting the young but it's not what have what you or i would have thought. what you or i would have tho well, speaking. i've got >> well, speaking. i've got reasonably high t levels, actually. >> man of your age. >> for a man of your age. >> for a man of your age. >> yes, i've been tested. i tested. put it on tested. i put i put it on twitter. i don't have my board for twitter. lewis schaefer at twitter for anyway, this twitter echr for anyway, this is a totally this story is totally suhed a totally this story is totally suited to not me because i don't know anything about the english education but vocational education system, but vocational me as well. >> it years >> i've left it 40 years ago. >> i've left it 40 years ago. >> vocational t levels or for england students poor value , england students poor value, ofsted says. yeah. and basically what t levels are their technical training and they used to be called the btecs and then they lead to the a levels and their alternative basically if you if you, if you academic and

you if you, if you academic and you want to get into university you want to get into university you do a—levels and that demonstrates you have the way of thinking you can sit at a desk and level is something more and t level is something more likely a directly to and t level is something more li job a directly to and t level is something more li job in a directly to and t level is something more li job in principle. directly to a job in principle. >> and they're saying >> but and they're saying it's not value, when ever not good value, but when ever has an educational system been good value, especially the state, they're always behind the times. >> it's run by the government, it's run by the state. it's more centralisation and it's you can't you can't say for drinking game and it's the death of love. >> take a drink. >> take a drink. >> the death of love. >> the death of love. >> i mean, it's a classic. >> it's a waste of money. the education system. you're better off not being in school. >> okay. what do you think? >> okay. what do you think? >> used to be >> well, look, they used to be btec. everyone knew they're >> well, look, they used to be bterubbish'one knew they're >> well, look, they used to be bterubbish .ne knew they're >> well, look, they used to be bterubbish . they've they're >> well, look, they used to be bterubbish . they've changed the bit rubbish. they've changed the name know name to t levels. but, you know the phrase you can't polish a t level, very good. level, so that's very good. there you go. that'll do. i'll end on that. >> you like you wanted >> you look like you wanted to move on. >> you look like you wanted to mo it's n. >> you look like you wanted to mo it's awkward there >> it's awkward because there is a of stigma attached a kind of stigma still attached to at 16, my to leaving school. at 16, my father school at 14. i'm father left school at 14. i'm not saying that was ideal, but in you just could. in those days you just could. you . and he got

you did. and he still got a reasonable career a white reasonable career in a white collar of, know, collar kind of, you know, trajectory financial trajectory towards financial management. but it wasn't a totally a nowadays , if you leave totally a nowadays, if you leave school at 16, people assume you know, you may as well just be windy licking windows for the rest of your life. >> but you know what? the people who stay in school to the of who stay in school to the end of time, they're as time, they're they're just as bad off. >> leave school, eat meat, >> they leave school, eat meat, flee korea to save the flee to north korea to save the nhs , stay with the education nhs, stay with the education racket, nick and times have some pretty incriminating evidence that students make extraordinary progress between 18 and 21. yeah they the old grade inflation so a quarter of sixth formers with three d's later achieve a first so very suspicious that people have three d's are smashing it with the first and there's even one school, the northern school of contemporary dance where 81.3% of its graduates get first. so that's convenient, isn't it? >> best dance, right? >> best dance, right? >> that's dance. yeah. dances. dance. but it's still college to get degree. get a proper degree. >> let's say an engineering degree something. degree or something. at first used proper elite level. >> that's back when a first was

a first. simon but what really annoys me as well is i hate to talk about it, but got talk about it, but i got the third grade the third highest grade in the country history, a—level. country on my history, a—level. no to oxbridge. no, no one said, go to oxbridge. no, no, nothing that. just no, nothing like that. you just got nothing. kicked got nothing. you were kicked into it was the north. into a gutter. it was the north. it ago. now you it was a long time ago. now you just to show up. you get at just have to show up. you get at first, even though you basically think they're think a—level, clearly they're still d's a—level. still giving out d's at a—level. >> presumably employers will >> so presumably employers will start rather start looking at a—levels rather than degrees because it sounds like they've they've been inflated less. >> that's what you mean. >> that's what you mean. >> there more. >> yeah. so there are more. >> yeah. so there are more. >> t levels are >> and then the t levels are even better. >> said this >> we sort of said this yesterday, i'll repeat yesterday, but i'll repeat it anyway. honestly think anyway. i honestly think i understand want understand why young people want to university for the to go to university city for the sex, rock and roll. sex, drugs and rock and roll. the you know, kind of the the you know, the kind of the break between school and work. you give you want to have a little give me just have a lot of me a year. just have a lot of fun. don't have kind of fun. don't have any kind of pretence of their pretence for 90% of their learning make it sort learning anything make it sort of national service of like national service a little bit like kind of dredging the canals . what the the canals. what are the community service and a lot of a lot parties, a lot of fun lot of parties, a lot of fun and then have occasional iq then just have occasional iq tests and like big five personality tests and stuff, see

who's who's who's clever, see who's conscientious , see who's capable conscientious, see who's capable of team. isn't of organising a team. isn't jordan do that jordan peterson easy to do that wouldn't it? jordan peterson easy to do that w0|isn'tt it? jordan peterson easy to do that w0|isn'ttit? peterson's >> isn't jordan peterson's basically doing this kind of thing? online like, is thing? isn't he online like, is he? should join i he? yeah you should join us. i mean, a simon mean, you could do like a simon evans just youtube. evans course. just youtube. yeah. five month, five week course for . course for. >> you know what, i went to a i went to one of the top schools in america the old fashioned way. they thought that my way. yeah. they thought that my father mixologist . they father was mixologist. they thought went to thought that my father went to an league i didn't an ivy league school. i didn't go ivy league school, but go to an ivy league school, but i went very expensive it i went to a very expensive it was adjacent to ivy school. i went to a very expensive it was they :ent to ivy school. i went to a very expensive it was they :ent to the( school. i went to a very expensive it was they :ent to the reasonl. i went to a very expensive it was they:ent to the reason i and they thought the reason i got in, because i was a new york jew they thought my father jew and they thought my father had money pay for it. had the to money pay for it. >> found and >> and then they found out and they it wasn't they found out that it wasn't quite as. they still got the quite as. but they still got the fees get thrown out? fees or did you get thrown out? >> they had they a >> but they had they had a partially subsidised. >> real reason you got in, >> the real reason you got in, they you were. epstein they thought you were. epstein because we have to be honest , i because we have to be honest, i look amazing how he started in education. >> interesting story . anyway, >> interesting story. anyway, more disturbing news now about the brain rot overtaking our young people . this is in the

young people. this is in the telegraph . telegraph. >> no, it's not. it is not about the brain rot. it says tick tock. now, the biggest source of news for young teenage readers, ofcom reports young people ofcom reports that young people favour sources like favour online news sources like social media apps, while bond, which additional brands are weakening is a study, a weakening and this is a study, a report that was done by ofcom who have do they have who have why do they have business looking at this? ofcom ofcom for people who don't know for stand of censorship for stand office of censorship of media, the censorship arm, and basically what they want to do they to close down do is they want to close down tiktok it's owned by the tiktok because it's owned by the chinese and because it's taking away people who are watching the bbc, which is the state propaganda network. this this is this this article is just pr from the state propaganda network. what do you think ? network. what do you think? >> well, just to provide the balance for ofcom . i love ofcom balance for ofcom. i love ofcom because we get an ofcom because when we get an ofcom complaint louis calling complaint about louis calling ofcom the censorship arm, we should balance of me should have the balance of me saying i love it. so this is about, well, you're talking about, well, you're talking about tiktok , right? because you about tiktok, right? because you went so story. i wasn't

went so off the story. i wasn't even the same. even sure it's the same. so they're tiktok they're saying that tiktok is they're saying that tiktok is the biggest source of news for young teenagers, which means they their news they getting most of their news through the medium of dance for a is weird. but a start, which is weird. but there's question should ban there's a question should we ban it? it's actually a reasonable question because although, you know, they're saying here, china bans tiktok, which bans the western tiktok, which isn't what china isn't the best guide. what china do. an if do. but there is an argument if it's propaganda it's pumping chinese propaganda in, need that in the in, do we do we need that in the country? in, do we do we need that in the coun'don't know whether it's >> i don't know whether it's chinese. watch sometimes you chinese. i watch sometimes you i never like log to on tiktok deliberately, but sometimes you watch twitter it watch a video on twitter and it turns of a tiktok turns out to be part of a tiktok thing. and if that's how they get starts get accidental, it starts scrolling. few of scrolling. and i watch a few of them. of it is what i'd them. none of it is what i'd call news. usually either call news. usually it's either like their like criminals getting their comeuppance or like criminals getting their comeu|somez or like criminals getting their comeu|some sort or like criminals getting their comeu|some sort of or like criminals getting their comeu|some sort of fight or maybe some sort of fight breaking out in a young people dancing magicians . weirdly. dancing or magicians. weirdly. exactly. call any of exactly. i wouldn't call any of it got to say 12 it news, but i've got to say 12 to 15 year olds. i don't remember getting at all to 15 year olds. i don't re|that ber getting at all to 15 year olds. i don't re|that agejetting at all to 15 year olds. i don't re|that age .etting at all of that age. >> you exactly. do you remember when were they when we were young they were saying, oh, they these saying, oh, tv, they get these kids getting all their kids are getting all their information from yeah, information from tv. yeah, yeah. and thing. and it's the same thing. >> it from china , though, >> it wasn't from china, though, to be fair, should not be.

>> you right question >> you are right to question what saying. and you've what i'm saying. and you've done. step in done. you should step right in there louis, you don't there and say, louis, you don't mean bad thing to mean that. that's a bad thing to say. should it. say. you should say it. >> what do. >> that's what we do. >> that's what we do. >> coming up in the >> everyone, coming up in the final section, nerf guns under fire. grayson perry admits to theft. an odd food phobias and foibles. we'll see you in a couple minutes .

sorry welcome back to headliners for our final and shortest segment . so we'll keep these segment. so we'll keep these really tight guys . louis, over really tight guys. louis, over to the telegraph now in a row over the legitimacy of nerf gun walls in office environments . walls in office environments. there's only one way to settle this. >> yeah, i don't this is this is a total non—story. >> yeah, i don't this is this is a total non—story . and it's the a total non—story. and it's the same along the same lines that female it busts. same along the same lines that female it busts . boss sues for female it busts. boss sues for sex discrimination after a male colleague had nerf gun wars in office and this woman, sarah

longman, out of croydon was dismissed. well actually, she she lost her job. she was making she lost herjob. she was making over £90,000 a year. she sued for sex discrimination after complaining her male colleagues at this construction thing, which was mostly men. yeah >> were shooting around with nerf guns. >> mark dolan, michigan and. and what does she do? she she goes to a gun . government tribunal . a to a gun. government tribunal. a tribunal instead of, i believe people should be allowed to be hired at will. fired at will quit at will. >> i mean there are certain things i mean, you know, i think in an ideal world. >> yeah. freedom of association. but there are certain perhaps like sensitivities that like cultural sensitivities that could be observed. but there were other women in this office who no, fine. it's who said, no, it's fine. it's just the mucking about, you just the guys mucking about, you know, everything men know, why is everything that men do, it's just men do, anti women, it's just men just existing. >> is somehow guns ? >> is it somehow guns? >> is it somehow guns? >> like they were like >> it's not like they were like waggling their, you know. yeah. >> they were doing >> but even if they were doing that, women form their that, let the women form their own. constructive . own. it's not constructive. >> it's not anti, it's not anti women to shoot gun is it? women to shoot a nerf gun is it? we're not allowed our spaces

we're not allowed our own spaces and allowed just and we're not allowed to just be men general spaces . by the men in general spaces. by the way, called them the mates way, she called them the mates club , the classic for club, the classic line for someone has no friends. oh, someone who has no friends. oh, you're what's you're the mates club. what's wrong with mates working you're the mates club. what's wrongoffice? mates working you're the mates club. what's wro if office? mates working you're the mates club. what's wro if there ? mates working you're the mates club. what's wro if there were mates working you're the mates club. what's wro if there were 7nates working you're the mates club. what's wro if there were 7na18; working you're the mates club. what's wro if there were 7na18 womeng >> if there were 7 or 8 women and just i was the one guy and they always around they were always sitting around talking know, talking around, i don't know, women's issues. she might feel slightly you've women's issues. she might feel sligtoy you've women's issues. she might feel sligto make you've women's issues. she might feel sligto make butiu've women's issues. she might feel sligto make but would got to make a choice, but would you them? thinks you're you sue them? you thinks you're so. i stay and so. exactly. do i stay here and try try do i wear try and try and do i wear headphones like, you know, or do i do try and do i just learn i do i try and do i just learn about shades grey and fit about 50 shades of grey and fit in nick and in telegraph now? nick and grayson perry has confessed to what as modern what he describes as a modern sin, bet it isn't really, sin, but i bet it isn't really, is totes isn't. so this is >> it totes isn't. so this is grayson. guilty grayson. perry says he's guilty of appropriation. of cultural appropriation. he's got at the got this retrospect live at the national galleries scotland national galleries of scotland called back called smash hits, going back through in pottery, through his career in pottery, which i'm sure is very important. he talks about important. and he talks about how these days just absorbing influences is thought as influences is thought of as cultural appropriation, which is now modern sin and one he's now a modern sin and one he's guilty of. this a non story, guilty of. this is a non story, okay. there's non okay. if there's ever a non story, centralised story, this is the centralised death of non stories. death of love of non stories. >> i will say i like grayson

perry. he's i think he is actually a good with actually quite a good with ambassador for cultural appropriation as the way to move things forward as the way to create new art new he's he's as much into craft as he is into art as well that's what i like about he seems all right. about him. he seems all right. he's producing this of he's producing this kind of conceptual crap. his stuff actually right you like. >> true, right? yeah, true. like. >> i'mz, right? yeah, true. like. >> i'm notjht? yeah, true. like. >> i'm not familiar., true. like. >> i'm not familiar. anyway, as picasso said, good artists borrow. great artists steal, and you have to steal from somebody. can just shout out to can i just do a shout out to geoffrey there who's geoffrey parks out there who's in who's a guy who texted us, who messaged us. we're on youtube, youtube , on youtube, not on youtube, on twitter, and says twitter, on twitter. and he says , give, give geoffrey parks a mention. he's in sunny . mention. he's in sunny. splendid. no. >> okay. hi >> okay. hi >> this is like a butlins gig or something. >> a couple more stories to try and squeeze in now. raindrops, sorry, roses. not just one of juue sorry, roses. not just one of julie favourite things, julie andrews favourite things, but source green but a potential source of green power . power. >> em- >> oh my god. >> oh my god. >> i know what you're >> i don't know what you're going call this story, but going to call this story, but it's panel. tech it's a solar panel. tech breakthrough generates electricity and electricity from rain. and number it doesn't generate

number one, it doesn't generate electricity. it says that according to this story, which is in the independent, which is not a newspaper, it's a website. i don't even what's what i don't even know what's what it's here, but it's doing included here, but i'm to play with you i'm going to play along with you guys the work. guys because i like the work. but the solar panels that generate electricity from raindrops , quote, could raindrops, quote, could allow them to produce power in any weather. and the big operative word is could, could, can maybe potential it haven't done it . potential it haven't done it. it's called droplet based triboelectric trick. >> so it totally isn't think what do you think nick has it got anything to do with this? the only thing that struck me was they're using raindrops harvesting raindrop energy to power solar energy. not just power solar energy. why not just make the raindrops, make the energy out the middleman energy cut out the middleman does god, sense? does that. god, that make sense? >> excruciating. >> excruciating. >> now i'd like give >> and now i'd like to give a shout out to someone from my school. >> kidding. would never >> just kidding. i would never do that to enjoy a bit of harmless ups. spencer this harmless hang ups. spencer this is. oddballs with their is. this is oddballs with their phobias. tv. phobias. this is some tv. >> yeah, this more street. >> yeah, this is more my street. so i was terrified of so this is. i was terrified of red after freak rocking red food after freak rocking

horse accent because rocking horse accent because rocking horse is a famously but now horse is a famously red. but now i've beaten the phobia. i think it's because rocking horse it's because a rocking horse smashed there smashed into his face and there was everywhere. so think was blood everywhere. so i think it's the blood it's the redness of the blood that he was. it's about that he was. and it's all about people. eat hard people. one can't eat hard foods. only white foods. one can only eat white bread it is bread and potatoes. it is a thing. i was ill with a stomach bug recently and i was like, it's hard to get onto it's quite hard to get back onto food. it could food. you can see how it could happen. know, i got a happen. you know, i got on a really strict diet at one point where i couldn't eat wheat or dairy these and dairy and all these things, and you called you develop what's called orthorexia get so orthorexia where you just get so paranoid foods. so paranoid about any foods. so these people got these are people that have got locked mode. so like an locked in that mode. so like an autistic spectrum disorder, how dare not >> some people have not necessarily case, but necessarily in your case, but some eat certain some people want to eat certain colours plate of all the colours of plate of all the circle and stuff. >> cases, seems to >> in these cases, it seems to be trauma. and be linked with trauma. and there's dr. felix, there's this guy, dr. felix, something basically something who basically cures him apparently something who basically cures hin no, apparently something who basically cures hin no, is jparently something who basically cures hin no, is not.�*ntly something who basically cures hinno, is not. itly something who basically cures hinno, is not. it is not >> no, it is not. it is not a problem. humans are not meant to eat food. are the eat red food. red plants are the human body is associates red with poison, whether it's blue. and also some blue. we and it's also some blue. we shouldn't plants at shouldn't be eating plants at all. it's basically humans are saying ourselves, red is .

saying to ourselves, red is. >> but that's not plants . he >> but that's not plants. he couldn't eat ketchup. he couldn't eat ketchup. he couldn't eat ketchup. he couldn't eat anything yeah. couldn't eat anything red. yeah. >> is red. steak is red. >> no meat is red. steak is red. meat is red . >> no meat is red. steak is red. meat is red. but >> no meat is red. steak is red. meat is red . but what this, what meat is red. but what this, what this kind of food, this kind of red food is. yeah. you don't, don't eat plants. >> so you're saying follow your instincts, follow colour instincts, follow your colour guides or your phobias. yeah. >> and of course , louis era >> and of course, louis is era in america. food meant in america. red food meant communist , red under the bed. >> that's the that's the subtext. well, the show is very nearly over. let's take another quick look at friday's front pages, the daily mail has an apology of sorts from cootes, but silence from the bbc, the daily telegraph bank boss says sorry to farage over accounts, but the picture is of her having a laugh with the prime minister. the garden and taxpayer to fund 45% pay rise for royals despite cost of living crisis . it's the cost of living crisis. it's the i paper . 1 in 6 cost of living crisis. it's the i paper. 1 in 6 people will be stuck on an nhs waiting list if

doctors strikes continue, warns uk top medic and daily express fury over plan to axe pension tax break. finally metro just stop foiled . those were your stop foiled. those were your front pages. that's all we have time for. thank you to my guest who is chef nick dixon. we're >> �*there are back at 11 pm. tomorrow with some other people. if you're watching 5 am, stay tuned watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. otherwise, thank you. night. the you. good night. the temperature's rising. >> bob post solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey. who is your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. look, a few of us have managed to see some sunny spells throughout today, but there are still a few showers lingering on into the evening and friday well, evening and into friday as well, particularly of particularly for parts of northern ireland through scotland well . also few scotland as well. also a few just clearing way the just clearing their way off the far england as far southeast of england as well. between that, we well. in between that, we will start see clearer spells start to see some clearer spells developing will developing thing and that will allow temperatures to just allow those temperatures to just slide off into single figures for rural areas,

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