gb news a very good morning to you. >> it's 930 on friday, the 21st of july. and this is britain's newsroom here on gb news. with me, tom harwood and emily carver in just a few moments following the liberal democrat win in somerton and frome last night, we will joined by deputy we will be joined by deputy leader of the democrats, leader of the liberal democrats, daisy cooper. and as rishi sunak narrowly avoided a total wipe—out last night, we ask, is there now a narrow path to general election victory for the

tories and as labour achieves their biggest by—election swing since the days of tony blair, is starmer a pm in waiting and as i awkwardly promised , i will be awkwardly promised, i will be eating my hat live on air later in the show. so stick around for that. >> and as always, please do let us know what you think about all the topics. we'll be discussing those by—election results as well. please do email us gbviews@gbnews.uk . gbviews@gbnews.uk. >> com or tweet us the question that we want to ask you is about this new 25 year old mp . emily this new 25 year old mp. emily does not like the idea of a 25 year old mp far too young . i year old mp far too young. i think it should be about the content of your character, not the age on your birth certificate. i don't know. there's a better way to say that, but gb views at gb news .uk is the email address to write in about that. but we'll

be getting to all of those big , be getting to all of those big, big issues of the day after your news with tatiana news headlines with tatiana sanchez. news headlines with tatiana sanchez . tom thank you very much sanchez. tom thank you very much and good morning. >> this is the latest from the gb newsroom rishi sunak has suffered a double by—election loss with labour and the lib dems, both overturning majorities about 20,000. majorities of about 20,000. labour won selby and ainsty and the lib dems took somerton and frome with the prime minister says the conservatives by—election victory in uxbridge and south ruislip boris johnson's old seat shows the next general election is not a done deal . the next general election is not a done deal. the uk's retail sector did better than expected last month. figures from the ons found department stores and furniture sellers had a good month. sales in supermarkets were also a driving force behind the bounce back. it said these were partially offset by falls in fuel garden centres and clothes shops and the average

asking rent for properties both inside and outside of london have hit a new record high. data from rightmove says the average rent per month outside of london is just over £1,200, whilst rent in the capital reaching a record of just just over 2500 pounds per month. it also found the average property available to rent is finding a tenant in 17 days. that's the quickest time it's recorded since november last year . it's recorded since november last year. holidaymakers have been warned not to touch dead birds on welsh beaches as concerns rise over a bird flu outbreak in recent weeks. reports of bird carcases washing up on shores in west and north wales have increased as wild bird colonies around the uk continue to be affected . the continue to be affected. the welsh climate change minister juue welsh climate change minister julie james described the situation as heart wrenching . situation as heart wrenching. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website,

gbnews.com now it's back to emily and . emily and. tom >> well, a very good morning to you. it's 934 here on gb news on britain's newsroom. with me , tom britain's newsroom. with me, tom howard and emily carver. >> thank you very much indeed for joining us. so you've been forjoining us. so you've been getting in touch already about that big question of the day is 25 years old, far too young to become an mp .7 i think so. tom become an mp.7 i think so. tom harwood thinks become an mp? i think so. tom harwood thinks it's fantastic, apparently. >> well, i don't think that we should have a uniform parliament. i think we should have lots of different diverse voices and ages and ultimately , voices and ages and ultimately, i think one of the big things that we're missing in this conversation is about competence rather than about age or indeed skin colour or sexuality or any other sort of immutable characteristic of an individual. we should be thinking about how

they're presenting themselves , they're presenting themselves, what they're saying more than what they're saying more than what they're saying more than what they are. >> well, that sounds very nice, tom, but it's worth reminding ourselves that this 25 year old in selby, the labour mp who's been elected and worked in pubuc been elected and worked in public relations , followed by public relations, followed by serving as a parliamentary researcher, not that diverse of experience you're talking about perhaps ? perhaps? >> no, perhaps not. but there are 25 year olds in and around the country and perhaps they do need representation in need some representation in parliament. all. winston parliament. after all. winston churchill became an mp at the age of 25. he hadn't had much life. been in the but life. he'd been in the army, but he had that much life he hadn't had that much life experience. charlie kennedy, the age member of age of 23, became a member of parliament. salisbury great parliament. lord salisbury great prime minister at the age of 23. >> and stay younger, >> and people stay younger, though days, i think that though these days, i think that is a fair point. >> that is a fair point. we do people what sort of the average age of having is age of having children is getting later and later and later? exactly >> beyond 30. >> something like beyond 30. now, i think that might be actually something to do with the way in which housing has become less accessible

become less and less accessible for people. become less and less accessible for but people. become less and less accessible for but it people. become less and less accessible for but it iszople. become less and less accessible for but it iszojreally >> but it is a really fascinating conversation . fascinating conversation. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address to get in touch and we'll be talking about this throughout the programme. but in other news of course , it wasn't other news of course, it wasn't just the labour party that won a seat, the tories and seat, so did the tories and indeed the liberal democrats have won the somerton and frome by—election overturning an enormous conservative majority of more than 19,000. >> yes, sarah has been elected as the new mp for the somerset constituency, winning by 11,008 votes in a 29% swing away from rishi sunak conservative party . rishi sunak conservative party. >> i love how specific we were there. 11,008. well joining us live from westminster is the deputy leader of the liberal democrats, daisy cooper . and, democrats, daisy cooper. and, daisy, this is yet again a conservative seat that the lib dems have managed to take mid—term . erm although we have mid—term. erm although we have seen in recent history this sort of thing happen in the middle of a parliament. and then when it comes to a general election,

these seats can slip away from you. i'm thinking of course of brecon and radnorshire. where exactly the same scale of majority was overturned in the middle of the parliament and then in the general election it went back to the conservative lives. different ? lives. is this different? >> well, time will tell, won't it? but i mean, if you look at someone like sarah olney, who's a liberal democrat mp in south west london, then she won her seat in a by—election. she's still an mp today with an increased majority. so it can be done. but we never take votes for as liberal democrats for granted as liberal democrats . and i think, as you say, it's a fantastic win in somerton and frome. absolutely frome. we're absolutely delighted sarah the new mp, delighted for sarah the new mp, andifs delighted for sarah the new mp, and it's a sure sign that the lib dems are back in the west country. >> daisy , a fantastic result for >> daisy, a fantastic result for you , of course, in that seat. you, of course, in that seat. but what about selby and ainsty and what about uxbridge ? pretty and what about uxbridge? pretty poor vote share there. 526 votes in uxbridge . in uxbridge. >> well, in both of those seats

we had fantastic candidate who had been in place for some time . they campaigned incredibly hard and had the support of our mps as well . hard and had the support of our mps as well. but hard and had the support of our mps as well . but the fact is mps as well. but the fact is that across this country we have a broken electoral system first past the post, and that means that liberal democrats, like every political party. so we have to focus our resources on areas seats where we can areas and in seats where we can win. and so we had to focus our resources somerton and frome, resources on somerton and frome, and that's why we've got these stunning there that we've stunning result there that we've achieved overnight in. >> it's interesting, you mentioned fantasy candidates in certain constituencies because i was looking a little bit about sarah for the candidate, the now mp for somerton and frome. she was hidden away a bit from the media during the campaign, perhaps after one slightly awkward interview on a guardian podcast. i think we've got a little clip that we can listen to of that now . to of that now. >> what do you want to know? something of a subject that i don't know anything about .

something of a subject that i don't know anything about. i'm not going to be able to give you an answer for very sensibly on the on the sort of general economic state of the constituency. >> um , well, i can talk. >> um, well, i can talk. >> yeah. i mean, there's pockets of deprivation. i mean, what else? you know, what can what can we say on that really ? i can we say on that really? i don't feel i don't feel that i'm prepared at all for this . amy prepared at all for this. amy it's all getting a little bit above my station . sorry above above my station. sorry that was your candidate, daisy cooper , saying she couldn't talk cooper, saying she couldn't talk about a very, very basic question about how rich her constituent agency is that that was above her station. >> is this a competent member of parliament that's been elected ? parliament that's been elected? >> so it's going to be an absolutely amazing member of parliament. i've got no doubt about that at all. look, it's a very big thing. i think people don't realise it's a really big thing to put yourself forward, to stand as an mp. that was a

small interview . it was small small interview. it was a small hiccup at start of the hiccup at the start of the campaign, she's been out and campaign, but she's been out and about to thousands and about speaking to thousands and thousands done thousands of voters. she's done pubuc thousands of voters. she's done public hustings in the constituency. number those constituency. a number of those . done number of . she's done a number of fantastic interviews . i saw her fantastic interviews. i saw her interview news this interview on bbc news this morning she absolutely morning and she absolutely smashed of park. so, smashed it out of the park. so, you she had a small hiccup you know, she had a small hiccup at she's come at the beginning, but she's come back. herself down. back. she's dusted herself down. she's a fantastic she's delivered a fantastic result. got absolutely result. and i've got absolutely no doubt she's going to be an absolutely mp for absolutely stonking mp for somerton . somerton and frome. >> hope so, because >> well, let's hope so, because she certainly have more she certainly going to have more media and media media attention and more media interviews coming up, i'm sure, just on that result. interviews coming up, i'm sure, just on that result . just just on that result. just lastly, i think david warburton, of course, was the mp for that area. he was embroiled in a drug and sex scandal of sorts 15 months ago. i believe it was. he was suspended. how much do you think that has to do with the fact that the liberal democrats did so well ? well the fact that the liberal democrats did so well? well the main issues that we were picking up on the doorstep was the fact

that people feel really abandoned by this conservative government. >> the cost of living crisis and the nhs crisis were the two issues that kept coming up time and time again. and you and time and time again. and you will know and your listeners and viewers will know that , you viewers will know that, you know, somerton and frome is know, some somerton and frome is also a very rural area. people are fed up not having any are fed up with not having any investment the they're investment in the area. they're fed up not any fed up with not having any buses. as though buses. farmers feel as though they've let down buses. farmers feel as though thethee let down buses. farmers feel as though thethe botched let down buses. farmers feel as though thethe botched brexit let down buses. farmers feel as though thethe botched brexit deal down buses. farmers feel as though thethe botched brexit deal that1 by the botched brexit deal that the struck as the government has struck as well . but the government has struck as well. but there's no the government has struck as well . but there's no doubt that well. but there's no doubt that the that you've the scandals that you've referred play a part in referred to did play a part in the by—election because local people felt like they've been unrepresented almost an unrepresented for almost an entire year. and that's why sarah pledged become a to sarah has pledged to become a to be a hard working local mp and to give people in somerton and frome the voice that they really deserve really need right how. >> now. >> well , mam- % cooper, thank >> well, daisy cooper, thank you very and just very, very very much. and just very, very lastly, you'd answer lastly, i wonder if you'd answer our question the day. is 25 our question of the day. is 25 too young to be a member of parliament? no i don't think it is at all. >> and the fact is that young

people say to me time and time again, when i go into schools is that they feel like their voice isn't being heard. they're incredibly worried about the climate worried climate crisis. they are worried about housing. about affordable housing. they're about mental they're worried about mental health. i think it's really important that young people get involved politics as well. important that young people get inv i think she said about her, about she smashed the interview. >> she smashed the interview . >> she smashed the interview. she'd be a stonking mp. i'm loving the enthusiasm there. that's more of that that's what we need more of that in politics. in our politics. >> one daisy. anyway about >> one with daisy. anyway about the 25 years. yes >> yes. i'm looking forward to seeing some more views coming into the inbox. will no doubt be getting those a bit getting to those a little bit later the programme. but later in the programme. but let's on this let's get more now on this byelection joined byelection fallout. we're joined byelection fallout. we're joined by the political commentator

john oxley. john, thank you for joining us here in the studio. it seems like this is a on the face of it, a fairly equitable outcome , one each for the three outcome, one each for the three major parties in england . yes, major parties in england. yes, it's a of ideal outcome. it's a sort of ideal outcome. everyone gets to come on and spin and say, well, we did. we did well here. we maybe didn't do so well here, but you know , do so well here, but you know, when it comes to general elections, that's probably not when it comes to general elec'it'ss, that's probably not when it comes to general elec'it'ss, that't0)robably not when it comes to general elec'it'ss, that'to work. ly not when it comes to general elec'it'ss, that'to work. it'sot when it comes to general elec'it'ss, that'to work. it's not how it's going to work. it's not going to be whatever it is, 300 seats each now. >> suggested that >> now, tom has suggested that there be a narrow path to there could be a narrow path to victory the concert natives. victory for the concert natives. what do you make of that ? what do you make of that? >> i think it's a very narrow path. excuse me , because what path. excuse me, because what you've seen here is the conservatives have lost in a big head to head with labour up in selby. they've lost in a big head to head with the liberal democrats in the west country like a drink of water. >> yes. sorry. i ask you drink. >> it happens to the best prime ministers during conference speeches as well. you know, because you apologise it

because do you apologise for it ? so yeah, they've had this head to lib to head with the lib dems. they've going they've lost that. they're going to have a lot of seats like that. they've had a big head to head labour down head with labour and down in uxbndge uxbridge it was a weird election. fought election. they fought that almost by—election. they almost like a by—election. they weren't really sorry, almost like would be like a by—election would be fought by the opposition. they weren't really talking about their they their record in government. they were need to were going out saying we need to stop , which is a london stop ulez, which is a london mayoral policy, and they were really fighting that. like the outsiders . and it'd be hard to outsiders. and it'd be hard to find a way to do that at a national election where they're the government. so i think there is path. is there is a narrow path. is there perhaps a lesson here? if we look at how the conservatives campaigned in on the non uxbndge campaigned in on the non uxbridge seats in this by—election in selby and in somerton , they had very bland somerton, they had very bland messages. there wasn't really a sort of clear policy prospect that they were campaigning incredibly hard and incredibly clearly on. now in 2019, get brexit done was the very simple message in uxbridge stop ulez was the very simple message is

there a lesson here that the conservatives just need a simple campaigning, conservatives just need a simple campaigning , preferably campaigning, preferably conservative message to take to the electorate and that might see them through? i think that's a very good way of approaching the next general election. i think you need something that's sort of people who tune into the for five minutes a day for news five minutes a day really with and really pick up and run with and that's what in 2019 was done very well. equally was done , very well. equally was done, done very vote leave done very well by vote leave when they delivered quite when they delivered a quite surprising victory . i when they delivered a quite surprising victory. i think the problem the conservatives have at is they've been at the moment is they've been backwards and forwards over all sorts policies over the last sorts of policies over the last 13 years. there's not a clear faction in control of the conservative party , so it's conservative party, so it's going to be very hard to pull together, particularly in an election where people aren't necessarily optimistic about their chances. people are looking ahead potentially to a leadership election comes leadership election that comes afterwards and they need to keep 650 candidates on message. so yes, a short, simple message that's very effective is how you win elections is. but how do the tories come up with that at the

moment, i wonder, after 13 years in government in one way or another, the conservatives really clear and really do have a clear and succinct message of what voting conservative means. >> very difficult considering the burden is so high, the tax burden is so high, considering they haven't tackled illegal immigration in the way that hoped they could. that they've hoped they could. so it'll be very difficult indeed what big indeed to see what that big slogan and whether they slogan will be and whether they come to something. but in come to something. but also in uxbndge come to something. but also in uxbridge was uxbridge and ruislip, this was bofis uxbridge and ruislip, this was boris johnson's seat. it has remained conservative. everyone seems to be saying, oh, this is all about ulez anti ulez revolt against ulez et cetera. et cetera is it down to that or is uxbndge cetera is it down to that or is uxbridge just a very staunchly conservative place? >> and it was the focus of the tory campaign. but i think there's something in what you're saying. these saying. it's one of these interesting seats on the interesting seats that on the surface looks like a marginal but sort of always looks like a marginal where the labor party never there. was never quite get there. it was one of their targets in 2019. they hoped about in they kind of hoped about it in 2017. so i think there is something to be said that, you know, that area of know, particularly that area of nonh know, particularly that area of north london one of those

north london is one of those seats remains stubbornly seats that remains stubbornly conservative , you conservative and really, you know, you'd expect the tories to be doing better than this. and so does point to so it does point ahead to trouble the next general trouble at the next general election. and yet the majority in was only the in uxbridge was only 7000. the majority in the other two seats was 20,000. anything, this was 20,000. if anything, this should have been seat that should have been the seat that that disappeared the fastest . that disappeared the fastest. does this perhaps mean that the conservatives actually have a fighting chance in london in. i think they have a fighting chance in those outer london seats . you know, on the seats. you know, on the periphery there , seats that periphery there, seats that should suit the conservatives there generally sort of older seats there , people who own seats there, people who own their own homes and have done very out of price very well out of house price rises. are rises. and people who are concerned about things like motorists they're motorists more than they're concerned about , motorists more than they're concerned about, you motorists more than they're concerned about , you know , concerned about, you know, things like public transport. i doubt that really holds for some of the inner london seats. i think i'd be more worried if i was. greg hands in chelsea or even some of the leafy inner south london suburbs . south london suburbs. >> yeah, absolutely. and many have suggested that the

conservatives are having such troubles because there's something called long boris going about which is the impact of boris johnson being called long bars. >> he's famously quite a short man. >> and this is, of course, is a play >> and this is, of course, is a play on long covid boris johnson. and his legacy is lingering on. do you think that's true? because i think quite a lot of people still like bofis quite a lot of people still like boris johnson , even if they may boris johnson, even if they may not admit it . not admit it. >> well, i think the polling sort of points away from there being this love for boris remaining. but i think a lot of the problems that the conservative party now have do kind come wake of kind of come in the wake of bofis kind of come in the wake of boris johnson's government and how chaotic it was, and particularly how how he came in with this quite radical manifesto . so there was very manifesto. so there was very different from what previous mps had been elected on. so i think there is something in there that there is something in there that there is something in there that there is this sort of latent problem within the conservative party that boris , by force of party that boris, by force of personality, was holding together . but it's come together. but now it's all come spilling and it's very hard spilling out and it's very hard for bottle up again. for anyone to bottle up again. now to our question

now we must turn to our question of the and i must i must of the day. and i must i must say inbox been say that the inbox has been lighting with people getting lighting up with people getting in first in touch. let's turn first to lena, who's written in to say, i'm 17 years old and say that 25 is far too young to be an mp. the guy has little to no experience. i'm not being rude or anything, but it's true. well, lena, thank you for watching and gosh, that is you know what john says isn't opinion. john says, and i think there's some truth to this. >> daisy said young people need more regarding more representation regarding mental health climate mental health and climate change. young people change. it makes young people sound a load snowflakes sound like a load of snowflakes . she just to add in . she just needed to add in gender identity issues and the lib future for the country lib dem future for the country would be complete. oh well, there you go. it's only young people care about climate change. people care change. only young people care about mental to some extent. >> emily an extension your >> emily an extension of your argument, is all sort of argument, which is all sort of if you're older, you're definitely going to think sort of in a different sort of way . of in a different sort of way. is age always that qualifying factor or could it be that sometimes there are some rather

brilliant young people, maybe rarely . i'm brilliant young people, maybe rarely. i'm not saying we brilliant young people, maybe rarely . i'm not saying we should rarely. i'm not saying we should have a house of commons full of 25 year olds, but maybe 1 or 2 of them out of 650. is it really that egregious a thought? i just don't like the way the house of commons has changed demographically years. commons has changed derwe've hically years. commons has changed derwe've seeny years. commons has changed derwe've seen a years. commons has changed derwe've seen a move years. commons has changed derwe've seen a move away|rs. commons has changed derwe've seen a move away from >> we've seen a move away from people ever had manual people who've ever had manual jobs example, jobs for example, we've seen a move away from working class. we've lots of people who we've seen lots of people who have pr jobs, pr experience have had pr jobs, pr experience or have worked for a for an mp for a while. but the unofficial adviser is that who we want representing us? i'm not sure that represents us, but the average age of a member of parliament in 50s. parliament is in their 50s. >> so. so so perhaps that sort of diversity is people who have different experience different life experience through different things. but also i, i hate to return to history, but but pitt, the younger , is one of my favourite younger, is one of my favourite prime ministers ever. he famously defeated napoleon iron through england's exerted iron and saved europe through england's example , and he became england's example, and he became a member of parliament at the age of 21. prime minister at the

age of 21. prime minister at the age of 21. prime minister at the age of 24. his entire life was nothing but politics. but he was our second longest serving prime minister and he did an absolutely fantastic job, apart from when he taxed windows . but from when he taxed windows. but for the part , for the most for the most part, for the most part, that was guy. >> this guy has spent more time at than doing at oxford than he has doing anything else. >> well, shall we get a word from john oxley finally on this topic? 25 too young. i don't think so. i think it's all about quality and character. >> losing here. >> i'm losing here. >> i'm losing here. >> there have been we've got lots of old mps who aren't very good and are still clogging up the commons. i think the house of commons. so i think it is to parties and it really is up to parties and voters to decide whether they think this person is credible or not. here's a point. and when it comes to quality, what i get very, very irritated by is politicians standing up at prime minister's questions, reading out a question. maybe it's a 22nd question and they're standing there with bits of paper up to their face reading like like they're in a primary school. they can't learn school. if they can't learn a 32nd question, they should not be elected. they should not be a

member parliament. that member of parliament. that exercise more exercise is me, more than more than age of an individual. than the age of an individual. >> and i think we've got aubrey allegretti line. do we? allegretti on the line. do we? >> are the >> aubrey allegretti are the senior correspondent senior political correspondent for can join us for the guardian, can join us now aubrey, you for now. aubrey, thank you for making time us this making the time for us this morning . first of all, all of morning. first of all, all of the parties are spinning these results as as good for them as if they're sort of on the up . if they're sort of on the up. what's the truth of it ? what's the truth of it? >> well, there is some truth in that. there is something for everybody. but i think if you take all of the three results together and you try take together and you try and take a little bit a step back here, little bit of a step back here, if you take all of is you're looking at the conservatives being 21 points looking at the conservatives being the 21 points looking at the conservatives being the board 21 points looking at the conservatives being the board . 21 points looking at the conservatives being the board . and1 points looking at the conservatives being the board . and thatnts looking at the conservatives being the board . and that is. across the board. and that is not good news for them. and it means that, roughly speaking, the the national the opinion polls, the national opinion we've been the opinion polls, the national opiniorover we've been the opinion polls, the national opiniorover the we've been the opinion polls, the national opiniorover the laste've been the opinion polls, the national opiniorover the laste've weeks seeing over the last few weeks are correct . now, rishi sunak is are correct. now, rishi sunak is right to that few people right to say that few people expected conservatives to expected the conservatives to hold uxbridge and south ruislip, but that does still mean he's got big questions to answer about why the conservatives are losing safe seats like selby and

ainsty in his backyard in north yorkshire. >> great. it's been pointed out that voter turnout in selby was very low indeed 41.8% compared to 71% previously. so apparently that leaves 21,000 voters at home not bothering to turn up at the ballot box. does that show that there isn't a massive enthusiasm for keir starmers labour. laboun >> there certainly could be that read into it. i mean, in 1997 there were lots of people who decided not to vote labour and instead were conservative voters who stayed at home that was who stayed at home and that was part contributed to tony part of what contributed to tony blair's massive landslide. so abstentions are damaging to the party as people swinging the other way . now, i spoke to lots other way. now, i spoke to lots of voters in selby and ainsty who didn't think they were going to they weren't to vote. they weren't necessarily with rishi to vote. they weren't necessgovernment, with rishi to vote. they weren't necess government, but h rishi to vote. they weren't necess government, but they hi to vote. they weren't necess government, but they were sunak government, but they were very certainly unhappy with the departure of their sitting mp

nigel adams. and they sort of said they thought he was said to me they thought he was petulant, that he'd sort of resigned in a fit of rage and they feel need to they didn't feel the need to come support his come out and support his successor. were lot successor. so there were a lot more kind of interesting factors, more kind of interesting factor: swung from the selby swung away from the conservatives at this by—election >> now we've only got 20s on this . aubrey so shortly, if you this. aubrey so shortly, if you will, does that of will, does that lack of enthusiasm, of star enthusiasm, that lack of star mania, did that lead to the tory success in the uxbridge, where there's a sort of wedge issue they can get in, they can peel away that labour lead ? i think away that labour lead? i think the lesson for the conservatives from uxbridge will be that they think that they can campaign against labour it is in against labour where it is in power . power. >> now, obviously in uxbridge there conservative there was a sitting conservative mp, that as a sort mp, but they used that as a sort of bid to try and get people to vote, voice their discontent against sadiq khan. so they'll be other where be looking at other areas where labour metro mayor or labour has a metro mayor or indeedin labour has a metro mayor or indeed in wales where labour is indeed in wales where labour is in control of the government and those will be areas they'll those will be the areas they'll focus on to try and hone their attacks. >> oh well, aubrey's left us,

but we need to wrap up anyway. thank you very much indeed. >> aubrey indeed, we'll be getting much more stuck in to all what's to come here. all of what's to come here. we're going to be talking to the professor, the sociologist , professor, the sociologist, psephologist extraordinaire , sir psephologist extraordinaire, sir john curtis, will get his thoughts in just a few minutes time. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. good morning. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. touch of a cool start where we've held on to clear skies overnight and there is a bit of sunshine around. but for northern southern northern ireland, southern scotland into northern england it cloudy from the word it is quite cloudy from the word go. scattered showers in go. a few scattered showers in there. cloud will be there. that cloud will be progressing way across the progressing its way across the rest of england and wales throughout the day. so the sunshine bit sunshine perhaps turning a bit hazier best of the hazier later on. best of the sunshine, perhaps across southwestern scotland southwestern areas of scotland and northern actually and the northern isles actually starting a few sunniest

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>> thank you for joining us so it's been a night of byelection drama for the three biggest parties in the country. we'll be joined pollster sir john joined by top pollster sir john curtice mp steve curtice and labour mp steve mccabe for their thoughts and following their win in somerton and frome , we'll be hearing from and frome, we'll be hearing from the leader of the liberal democrats seeing if he's got democrats and seeing if he's got one of these big stunts that the lib to pull whenever lib dems like to pull whenever they win. >> em- em— >> anything. so red davey will be from him later. >> anything. so red davey will be we from him later. >> anything. so red davey will be we shall'om him later. >> anything. so red davey will be we shall see him later. >> anything. so red davey will be we shall see thatlater. >> anything. so red davey will be we shall see that and. >> anything. so red davey will be we shall see that and tens of >> we shall see that and tens of thousands have had thousands of patients have had care due a 48 hour care disrupted due to a 48 hour strike by consultants , the first strike by consultants, the first in decades which began at 7 am. on thursday, will be live from the picket line . the picket line. and our big question of the day is 25 years old too young to be an mp ? i think it is. you don't an mp? i think it is. you don't have enough life experience. you probably haven't had a proper job. >> i think it depends on the 25 year old. what if there's a 25

year old. what if there's a 25 year old. what if there's a 25 year old who left home at 12 and sort of was was starting a business, became a billionaire . business, became a billionaire. you don't you don't know the life story of someone who's 25. i think it matters more what you've done perhaps even how you put yourself across and what you think then how old you are. >> we're talking about this, of course, the labour course, because the new labour mp selby and ainsty is a 25 mp for selby and ainsty is a 25 year old who hasn't done much apart from study and be a parliamentary researcher. but good on him. he fair, good, good on him. he be fair, good, good on him. he be fair, good, good on him. he be fair, good, good on him. >> he worked the cbi for >> he worked at the cbi for a bit, which of course is an organisation not all ridden organisation not at all ridden by the last. anyway, organisation not at all ridden by be the last. anyway, organisation not at all ridden by be discussingast. anyway, organisation not at all ridden by be discussing thisknyway, organisation not at all ridden by be discussing this more.r, organisation not at all ridden by reallyiiscussing this more.r, organisation not at all ridden by really wantsing this more.r, organisation not at all ridden by really want yourthis more.r, we really want your views on this 25 too young? gb this topic. is 25 too young? gb views at gbnews.com. but we'll get more on of these big, get more on all of these big, big stories after your morning headunes. headlines. >> tom, thank you and good morning. it's 10:02. >> tom, thank you and good morning. it's10:02. this is the latest . rishi sunak morning. it's10:02. this is the latest. rishi sunak has morning. it's10:02. this is the latest . rishi sunak has suffered latest. rishi sunak has suffered a doubled by—election loss with labour and the lib dems, both overturning majorities of about

20,000. labour won selby and ainsty and the lib dems took somerton and frome on sizeable wins . the prime minister says wins. the prime minister says the conservatives by—election victory in uxbridge and south ruislip boris johnson's old seat shows the next general election isn't a done deal. he's vowed to double down, stick to the plan and deliver for the people . and deliver for the people. department stores and furniture sellers had a good month as sales were higher than expected in june. figures from the ons found the retail industry did better than expected last month. sales in supermarkets were also a driving force behind the bounce back . it said these were bounce back. it said these were partially offset by falls in fuel garden centres and retail stores. growth still fell annually but at its slowest rate since the beginning of the ukraine war. a ten ants are feeling the squeeze as landlords in and outside of london increase rents by between 3 and £500 per year. data from

rightmove says the average rent per month outside of london is just over £1,200, whilst rent in the capital reaches a record of just over 2500 pounds per month for the second quarter of this yeah for the second quarter of this year. rent outside the capital has increased by £308 from the same period in 2019, where the average price per month was £923. it also found the average property available to rent is finding a tenant in 70 days. that's the quickest time it's recorded since november last yeah recorded since november last year. london rent has increased by £559. that's 28% in four years. parent is struggling with child care, will receive what the government is calling more properly and fairly funded support . but jeremy hunt, the support. but jeremy hunt, the chancellor announced new measures in the budget in march, which will see some families claiming 30 hours of free childcare. a week from april next year. working parents of two year olds will be able to access 15 hours of free

childcare to be extended to working parents of all children older than nine months from september next year , the group september next year, the group ceo of natwest , which includes ceo of natwest, which includes coutts, has apologised to nigel farage after his account was closed. dame alison rose apologised for what she called deeply inappropriate comments made about mr farage now being published in papers. she continued, saying it's not the company's policy to drop a customer on the basis of legally held political and personal views. a full review of coutts's process on how these decisions are made will be carried out. well, speaking on his show here on gb news last night, nigel says questions remain for natwest . natwest. >> there's a reiteration of the offer to give me natwest services. this offer was made verbally to me just before i went on air on gb news a couple of weeks ago. i also wonder if i go to natwest, how long will it be before they close me down?

because there's guarantee me because there's no guarantee me that they'll me as that they'll keep me as a customer. that does customer. and that does genuinely concern me . genuinely concern me. >> the white house has confirmed ukraine is using us cluster bombs against russia. russian forces in the country, national security spokesperson john kirby says they're being used effectively against russian defence and operations in cluster munitions, which are bannedin cluster munitions, which are banned in more than 100 countries. release large numbers of smaller bombs that can kill over a wide area . those that over a wide area. those that fail to explode pose a danger far into the future . the us far into the future. the us agreed to supply them to boost ukraine's ammunition supplies and holidaymaker workers have been warned not to touch dead birds on welsh beaches as concerns rise over a bird flu outbreak in recent weeks . outbreak in recent weeks. reports of bird carcases washing up on shores in western north wales have increased as wild bird colonies around the uk continue to be affected. the welsh climate change minister, juue welsh climate change minister, julie james described the situation as heart wrenching.

she said it's important people don't help spread the disease further . this don't help spread the disease further. this is gb news. we'll bnng further. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to emily and . and. tom >> well, very good morning to you. welcome to britain's newsroom here on gb news. thank you for your company this morning in what is quite an exciting post by—election morning . morning. >> it is very exciting indeed. lots of results to get through. i've been interested in the turnout. they have been rather low traditionally by elections , low traditionally by elections, do not see high turnouts . do not see high turnouts. >> but it is particularly interesting in some of these they have been lower than average. and does that just mean that lots of conservatives are sitting at home and thereby by other people are winning by default, perhaps in two of those seats? we can i think, dive into that. >> think a lot of people feel

>> i think a lot of people feel like they haven't got much to vote for. >> anyway. vote for. » anyway. >> but anyway. well, it has been a of byelection for a night of byelection drama for those party in the those three biggest party in the country. let's zoom now country. but let's zoom in now on the lib dems newest west country seat, somerton and frome, where jeff moody are. reporter is and geoff, you've been there all morning. what's the mood like on the ground ? the mood like on the ground? >> well, we're just waiting for sir ed davey to arrive when we're expecting that big stunt that you were talking about. they're all lined up behind me at the moment, ready for this big stunt. we don't quite know what it's going to be, but i've been told that it's known in lib dem as operation fromage dem circles as operation fromage , so i'm not quite sure whether it's going to be a big cheese or what it is. but we will find out in about an hour. it's kind in about half an hour. it's kind of reminiscent of last of reminiscent of the last by—election around by—election that was around a year ago in tiverton and honiton when richard ford had a spectacular victory against the conservatives there. spectacular. obviously depending on your point of view . but

on your point of view. but richard joins me now. i've just dragged him out of the stunt. hello to you, richard. good to see you again. nice to see you, too. so you're not now alone as a single lib dem voice in the south west ? south west? >> absolutely. i have company in the west so along with the west country. so along with my colleague from bath, i have a colleague in somerset of colleague in somerset and of course somerset for the liberal democrats traditional democrats is our traditional heartland. and i think we could be seeing others joining us next yeah >> well, exactly, because your election victory was a bit of a shock, wasn't it? it was one of the first sort of nail alls in bofis the first sort of nail alls in boris johnson's coffin, wasn't it? it was. it was the beginning of the end for him, that very famous door with show boris the door that you unveiled . and this door that you unveiled. and this now is not so much a shock. this is more of a habit, isn't it? it is more of a habit, isn't it? it is beginning to look as though the lib dems are making making ground the south—west like ground in the south—west like they had done in the 80s and 90s and 2000. and the early 2000. >> right. you can see the >> that's right. you can see the trend. this is our fourth parliamentary by—election win of

this parliament and it builds on top of the other by—election successes in north shropshire and chesham and amersham . so we and chesham and amersham. so we control the council here in somerset and there's a real sense where the liberal democrats are very much back and on the up in the west country looking at the other mps in the area in the south—west which ones do you think should now be looking over shoulder and looking over their shoulder and being worried about the lib dems come election time? well, although i'm not to going name any specific names of my conservative colleagues, i'll go on. you know, you want what i can tell you is that there are 15 conservative mps in the south west who have majority parties that are smaller than the one that are smaller than the one that sarah overton earned last night at our by—election here in somerton and frome . so i think somerton and frome. so i think there will be quite a few tory mps looking over their shoulders and being rather worried about their fragile majorities this morning. >> if you were a betting man, how many seats do you think that they that the lib dems will get

come election down here this come the election down here this way? i'm not a betting man, but when i was first able to vote in 1997, you could walk from saint ives to frome on lib dem held territory. >> and i think we're definitely going to see something of a resurgence for the liberal democrats here in the west country. >> so the punishment that the lib dems received in 2015, the real pushback against nick clegg and the coalition . do you think and the coalition. do you think voters down here have now forgotten that? do you think they've moved on from that? >> i think voters who were >> well, i think voters who were talking to me on on doorsteps here when i was out knocking on doors and also in my own patch in east devon and mid devon, they're telling me that of recent years, they feel that the conservatives have mismanaged the economy and mismanaged the national health service . and for national health service. and for many people in the west country, they have fond memories of having liberal democrat representation. there are still actually a lot of respect for

the for the solid local mps who we had representing the liberal democrats in the west country pnor democrats in the west country prior to 2015. and i think what we're seeing is that those those memories being invoked, people remembering just how it was to be well represented and they want to see that again. >> okay. and in a word, we know that we've got operation from age about to happen. what exactly is operation fromage? what's the stunt? >> afraid you're going >> i'm afraid you're going to have for west have to wait for your west country cheddar. >> i knew he'd that, >> oh, i knew he'd say that, richard, very much richard, thank you very much indeed. get on. indeed. i'll let you get on. well, yes, we're expecting that stunt now. so we will stunt any minute now. so we will keep you informed when it happens. geoff, we will be happens. well geoff, we will be right back to you when the big cloth is going to be unveiled. >> forward >> i'm looking forward hardly contain excitement. operation contain my excitement. operation fromage. goodness me, geoff, thank you very much . thank you very much. >> is there anything more liberal democrat than operation fromage ? fromage? >> it's very it's interesting because the south to the european union, the south—west was a big brexit voting area. but it seems that the lib dems in the in the in the locality

don't really talk about brexit that much in their literature. >> and frame the liberal >> we know and frame the liberal democrats. mean, the of democrats. i mean, the amount of flyers that were out, flyers that were going out, i mean really do bombard mean they really do bombard people their literature. people with their literature. >> but as as the tiverton and honiton dem mp richard ford honiton lib dem mp richard ford was just saying there he was talking yes, he was talking about the yes, he was talking about the yes, he was talking times. talking about waiting times. he was about economy. talking about waiting times. he was a about economy. talking about waiting times. he was a singleabout economy. talking about waiting times. he was a single mention economy. talking about waiting times. he was a single mention of:onomy. talking about waiting times. he was a single mention of brexit, not a single mention of brexit, perhaps. they've moved perhaps. perhaps they've moved on. get on. but but let's, let's get a little bit more with the pollster extraordinaire. the mastermind psephologist, professor sir john curtice. delighted to say he can join us now . and sirjohn, delighted to say he can join us now . and sir john, we're delighted to say he can join us now . and sirjohn, we're sort delighted to say he can join us now . and sir john, we're sort of now. and sir john, we're sort of looking at these by elections in in isolation because ultimately by elections don't always tell us what happens at the general election, but they can give us some clues. what were the clues that we learned last night? well you're certainly right. >> we shouldn't be looking to by elections to forecast the outcome of a general election. but we can look at historical precedent. and unfortunately for

the conservatives the historical precedent precedents are not very kind to them. well, first of all, there's richard ford was just mentioning the liberal democrats have now gained four seats from the conservatives tvs in this parliament in in three cases, including somerton , from cases, including somerton, from last night at near record breaking swings. the last time the liberal democrats won four seats off the conservatives lives in a parliament was the parliament of 1992 to 1997, which ended in defeat for the conservatives . meanwhile, the conservatives. meanwhile, the swing in selby and anstey at around 24, is the second highest swing ever from conservative to labouh swing ever from conservative to labour. the one better one than this was in the 92 to 97 parliament. and there are a couple of others that labour achieved in that parliament. again on a similar scale and labour have not done anything again on a similar scale and labcthat ave not done anything again on a similar scale and labcthat in; not done anything again on a similar scale and labcthat in alot done anything again on a similar scale and labcthat in a by—electionthing like that in a by—election since. so again, the precedents,

the 1992 97 parliament that endedin the 1992 97 parliament that ended in conservative defeat now no guarantee that history is going to repeat itself, but it is a further indication ocean of the scale of the task that faces rishi sunak if he's going to get his party back into a position where it might have a chance of winning the next general election. >> so, john, when we analyse by—election results and any result we like to look at things that might be surprising or people might have not anticipate . and is there anything from the election results yesterday from yesterday's election that was a little bit surprising ? little bit surprising? >> oh, sure. the conservatives managed to hang on to the seat in uxbridge was not widely anticipated, although it was thought for a variety of reasons that the swing from conservative to labour might be less. there than in selby though in the end the swing in selby was probably well beyond most people's expectations and that of course then leads to an interesting

debate about why it happened . debate about why it happened. well, if we take the word of the successful new conservative mp , successful new conservative mp, the explanation lies in the conservative ability to focus on the proposed extension by sadiq khan , the labour london mayor of khan, the labour london mayor of the low emission vehicle scheme to the outer london boroughs , to the outer london boroughs, and that the conservatives were campaigning against this on the grounds that people who suddenly discover that they have vehicles that would incur a charge that this was unfair on them . he this was unfair on them. he certainly didn't think there was anything to do with the voters of uxbridge thinking that perhaps mr sunak was beginning to turn things around . now, he to turn things around. now, he might be right. he might be wrong, but certainly it does look like a somewhat exceptional result. that's said clearly result. now, that's said clearly there is a question for labour as to why, if in even if indeed the explanation lies primarily

in the debate about the ulez zone , is why was labour campaign zone, is why was labour campaign upended by the conservative focus on that issue? if labour's command over voters, according to the opinion polls , is indeed to the opinion polls, is indeed a solid command , ed, you might a solid command, ed, you might expect the party to be able to cope and deal with that and still manage to win the by—election and i think as a result that debate which is bubbung result that debate which is bubbling on inside the labour party and we saw some of it emerge with the argument about whether it should or should not end with the two child limit on the provision of welfare benefits that i think the debate about whether or not the safety first policy that sir keir seems to be keen on whether the problem with that is that while voters might readily come to labour, voters might readily come to labour , perhaps there's also labour, perhaps there's also a risk they might readily go as well. is that potentially the difference between the 1990s and today ? today? >> in the 1990s the conservative

party became more and more unpopular . party became more and more unpopular. but it wasn't just that tony blair was was a very popular national figure, some somewhat surprising, perhaps for people today, but he was sort of there was this sort of hero worship around him and his personal anality, which we've really not seeing with sir keir starmer . really not seeing with sir keir starmer. does that mean that labour's lead is a lot softer than many people would assume ? than many people would assume? >> well, it's certainly the case that sir keir is not anything like as popular as tony blair was before 1997. and you know , was before 1997. and you know, other things being equal, that means it's somewhat less likely that labour are going to get their message across because people are less likely to listen. and indeed, you know, one of the characteristics that people mention when they're asked think asked about what they think about starmer is they about sir keir starmer is they do tend to find him rather bonng do tend to find him rather boring and insipid . so again, boring and insipid. so again, not necessarily the best vehicle for getting your your message across . yes. but the other trick across. yes. but the other trick that tony blair managed to pull off is that although indeed new

labour were also chasing the centre , they did manage to centre, they did manage to create a sense of excitement that indeed to use the phrase, they had things can only get better and by implication they said that things will get better . i think the challenge that labour faced and it's not simply of their own making because of the situation now is so the fiscal situation now is so much more difficult than it was before the general before the 1997 general election. labour is having to work out how, as an opposition in it, can persuade voters that it might be able to do things better same time better while at the same time being cognisant of the fact that there isn't much money to spend and that therefore it's a new government is going to be heavily constrained about what it can do. so that's undoubtedly a dilemma for labour. so but in the meantime, chasing the centre and not saying too much, well some of sir keir starmer critics will say that isn't necessarily the way to cement the loyalty of voters. >> thank you very much indeed, professor sir john curtice there taking us through the election

results from yesterday. >> i love talking to sirjohn >> i love talking to sir john curtis. it always feels like for any sort of political geek, it's sort of a moment of a brain the size of a planet and he just looks the part, doesn't he? he was a proper, proper politics boffin. you can trust his facts and figures. >> certainly can. and figures. >> well,ertainly can. and figures. >> well, let'slly can. and figures. >> well, let's get an. and figures. >> well, let's get some more more news on the ground now because, of course, there is this sort of variation around the country. >> yes. the tories have managed to defend boris johnson's seat, uxbndge to defend boris johnson's seat, uxbridge and south ruislip . so uxbridge and south ruislip. so paul hawkins is live from boris johnson's former seat . thank you johnson's former seat. thank you very much indeed. paul so have you been speaking to people there? what's going on? >> yeah, i've been speaking to people here. after that, frankly , surprising as sirjohn curtis was just pointing out, surprising result in here in uxbridge, the conservatives holding on. but just 495 seats. there was a little bit of drama in the middle of the night. they had to recount the votes. but that said, there was a 6.7%

swing towards labour, just not enough to get labour over the line . and the big difference line. and the big difference between the election here and the one in somerset and in north yorkshire is local election issues. or we should just say issues. or we should just say issue and that is ulez which will those who don't know ultra low emission zone, that is the daily charge that high polluting vehicles have to enter vehicles have to pay to enter the centre london and the the centre of london and the london mayor, sadiq khan, wants to boundary to outer london mayor, sadiq khan, wants to in boundary to outer london mayor, sadiq khan, wants to in august ndary to outer london mayor, sadiq khan, wants to in august andy to outer london mayor, sadiq khan, wants to in august and thatouter london mayor, sadiq khan, wants to in august and that ister london mayor, sadiq khan, wants to in august and that is the london in august and that is the subject at the moment of a judicial review, a challenge by five london councils and surrey council council. indeed, one of those five london councils is hillingdon borough council, where at the moment. that where we are at the moment. that was the issue that pretty much all the candidate campaigned on. it put labour in a difficult position given it's what sadiq khan wants to do . the local khan wants to do. the local candidate here, danny beal, said he doesn't agree with the extension because it's against the cost of living , but it's the cost of living, but it's definitely a an issue that has unified voters on both sides. so have a listen to david and nick.

david, a lifelong conservative voter, voted tory again last night and nick voted for labour because of a police station closure issue. but both are agreed about ulez have a listen. >> because people can't pay £12.50 a day, whatever it is yet to go backwards and forwards . to go backwards and forwards. >> there needs to be, if it comes into this area, there's got to be a longer extension to allow people to get their vehicles sorted out and it must be three years rather than nine months. nine months is just farcical and it wasn't nine months when he extended it to the and circular, he the north and south circular, he gave lot more time . gave people a lot more time. >> yeah. where does this >> yeah. so where does this leave labour? they're going to have rethink election have to rethink their election strategy london in the build strategy in london in the build up to next year's general election and indeed the london mayoral election gives hope mayoral election gives more hope as the conservative as well to the conservative candidate, susan hall, they candidate, susan hall, that they candidate, susan hall, that they can use ulez, i should say, can use use ulez, i should say, to gain some political leverage i >> -- >> well, 5mm >> well, paul hawkins, thank you very much for those views on the ground. it's fascinating the way that the labour party has sort of tried sit on both sides of

of tried to sit on both sides of the fence this issue. really the fence on this issue. really interesting see what the interesting to see what the conservatives have clung on by just a few hundred indeed just a few hundred votes. indeed indeed. lots more to indeed. well, still lots more to come. in few moments, we'll be come. in a few moments, we'll be joined the joined by steve mccabe, the labour from birmingham, selly labour mp from birmingham, selly oak, his thoughts on these oak, for his thoughts on these extraordinary by—election results. stick with us. good >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there. good morning. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. touch of a cool start where we've held on to clear skies overnight and there is a bit of sunshine around. for bit of sunshine around. but for northern ireland, southern scotland into northern england it the word it is quite cloudy from the word go. scattered showers in go. a few scattered showers in there. cloud will there. that cloud will be progressing way the progressing its way across the rest and wales rest of england and wales throughout the day. so the sunshine turning bit sunshine perhaps turning a bit hazier later of the hazier later on. best of the sunshine perhaps across south western and western areas of scotland and the actually the northern isles actually starting a sunnier starting to see a few sunnier spells developing. we'll be spells developing. but we'll be a with that

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tv, radio and online gb news. britain's news channel . britain's news channel. will it is 1028 in the morning with britain's newsroom on gb news with tom howard and me, emily carver . carver. >> and it's not just by elections that talking elections that we're talking about are about today, although they are important. there is other news,

too, on the banking scandal that's rumbled on for several days now. it's taken the news by storm this week . the natwest storm this week. the natwest ceo, dame alison rose, in a pubuc ceo, dame alison rose, in a public statement and letter to nigel farage, has apologised for deeply inappropriate comments and the way coutts broke ties with the former ukip and brexit party leader. >> this comes after it was revealed a 410 page internal report by the natwest subsidiary. >> emily, i'm just going to interrupt you there because we can go live to the leader of the liberal democrats. we'll get back to nigel's story in a little bit. but we're looking at this announcement. this lib dem announcement. let's cross . cross over. >> cross over. >> short of spectacular and what's particularly exciting for me is to see the liberal democrats winning again in our old liberal heartlands in the south—west may last year, somerset council , somerset devon

somerset council, somerset devon last year tiverton honiton , last year tiverton honiton, where we won that famous historic by—election. and this may in devon three council victories and now here in somerset with our historic byelection victory near the trend was clear. the trend was clear even before last night, but now it's certain in the liberal democrats are back in the west country . and it's a the west country. and it's a real pleasure for me today to celebrate this victory with lady jane ashdown . paddy would have jane ashdown. paddy would have been so pleased and proud of our result last night . and i've result last night. and i've spoken to a lot of people in this by—election across somerton and frome. indeed, in the local elections this year across the country . and people are angry . country. and people are angry. they're angry while they working hard to make ends meet, angry

while they're trying to get a gp appointment or a dentist for their child . the conservatives their child. the conservatives are so out of touch they've not even noticed . they're fed up of even noticed. they're fed up of these conservative clowns in their political circus. not helping people . and that's why helping people. and that's why throughout thousands of lifelong conservatives are switching to the liberal democrats that's why thousands of lifelong labour voters have lent us their support to beat the conservatives . and i think it's conservatives. and i think it's why people from all backgrounds , all walks of life are turning to the liberal democrats. they see that we're listening to them and we're fighting for a fair deal for them . last night, the deal for them. last night, the people of somerton and frome spoke for the whole country and they sent a powerful message to this appalling conservative

government ringmaster rishi is out of ideas. he's out of touch and he is out of excuses . and and he is out of excuses. and it's and he is out of excuses. and wsfime and he is out of excuses. and it's time for his shameful spectacle to end. it's time for a general election to end this conservative circus. it's time to get these clowns out of . to get these clowns out of. number 10. so that was the leader of the lib dems . leader of the lib dems. >> he's about to perform a stunt . let's have a little watch next to his big cannon. for those listening on the radio, he's got he's lighting a metaphorical cardboard cannon . cardboard cannon. >> let's hope it lights . >> let's hope it lights. >> let's hope it lights. >> he's trying to light it there. >> he's hoping it lights. it says, get these clowns out of number 10. >> oh, it has actually lit. there's a little there's a little five there for 3—2, one.

>> oh. confetti has exploded out of the end of this cardboard cannon that reads, get these clowns out of number 10. >> gosh, the liberal democrats know how to have a good time, don't they ? lots of celebrating don't they? lots of celebrating their wins. orange stars across a blue cannon. >> now sarah, the liberal democrat mp . democrat mp. >> she is well dancing, basking in the glory and confetti that has just been set off by this pretend cannon. >> my goodness , they do. they do >> my goodness, they do. they do like a there, don't they? like a stunt there, don't they? well, was. i like that. well, there was. i like that. >> know, more fun. >> you know, it's more fun. >> you know, it's more fun. >> it's biodegradable >> i hope it's biodegradable papeh >> i hope it's biodegradable paper. the former the former environment minister there , ed environment minister there, ed davey, creating lots of litter on the floor. >> hope so, because somerton and frome absolutely beautiful frome is an absolutely beautiful area of country. and area of the country. and somewhere you would not somewhere where you would not like to see litter remain for very long. like to see litter remain for veh definitely like to see litter remain for vehdefinitely . i found something >> definitely. i found something interesting about cannon as interesting about this cannon as well. with orange and well. blue with orange and yellow stars. is that a hint at the european union? could it

could it be be? >> we do know that the liberal democrats still very much hold on to the european union. do they not? they do. >> what is your favourite lib dem what done is dem stunt? what they've done is they've boris the they've done show boris the d00h they've done show boris the door. a big door. they door. they had a big door. they had. was other one had. what was the other one burst bubble. they burst burst boris's bubble. they burst a balloon. remember a big balloon. oh i remember that a big balloon. oh i remember thai did like that. yeah i did >> i did like that. yeah i did like although someone in like that. although someone in has emailed in saying that ed davey a nonentity. well, davey is a nonentity. well, today is his today is his today is his day. today is his big day. you know, they don't win many seats, do they? win that many seats, do they? come general election. but come the general election. but they often when it they do clean up often when it comes elections and comes to by elections and council elections. that's where they well and yes, ed davey they do. well and yes, ed davey looking chipper indeed. looking very chipper indeed. >> let's hope we'll be cleaning up there. now strewn up the floor there. now strewn with me . with confetti. goodness me. well, no, i think that was important to watch. i think it is nice to look at that, to look at stunts pranks, at their stunts and pranks, perhaps you at home voted liberal democrat. >> time around, wanted >> this time around, wanted to give the bit of give the tories a bit of a kicking. weren't taken by labouh kicking. weren't taken by labour. i just i just wish that the conservatives in uxbridge would a sort of big would would do a sort of big metaphorical ulez.

>> know what would be >> i don't know what would be the ulez metaphor that they could pushing back could do, sort of pushing back against. maybe they bring in an old a rishi sunak old banger, a car rishi sunak turns up in sort of a classic delorean , which would be be a delorean, which would be be a white van. >> come on. »- >> come on. >> okay. you're so right. you're so right. a white had my so right. a white van had my head back to the head stuck in back to the future. i saw. i saw an future. i saw a i saw. i saw an article about which cars article about which sort of cars would be paying the £12.50 anyway. anyway there we go. that's happening in that's what's happening in somerton and frome. but before we cut live to ed davey, there we cut live to ed davey, there we talking nigel's we were talking about nigel's bank account because of course, the natwest, natwest subsidiary, he was banking with labelled mr farage as a grifter, xenophobic and racist views. now nigel has called on an called the apology that natwest has now given him a start , but nowhere near enough . start, but nowhere near enough. >> joining us now to discuss this is dr. andrew lilico from europe economics. andrew, what do you make of this whole story , this episode? nigel farage has now received an apology draghi

some are saying it doesn't go far enough . far enough. >> i think we should make a distinction here between what's desirable from a general policy perspective. and it's not desirable that people with nigel farage this sort of political points of view can't access banking services and criticisms specifically of how coutts has conducted itself, given what the regulatory framework was because coutts faced a problem. and i think that people haven't really recognised the commercial situation that coutts faced. coutts if you go back some decades, was known as perhaps a rather kind of swiss style asks no questions. traditional bank that provide a banking services for it was known to provide banking services for people like general pinochet and other dictators. it's tried to reposition itself in recent years away from that kind of ask no questions image into being more equality , diversity and more equality, diversity and inclusion friendly be seeking after what we might think of as after what we might think of as a woke pound or a woke dollar

from the kind of zuckerberg younger , more more issue younger, more more issue oriented bank ing services seekers and if it was going to get money from those kinds of people which it was seeking to reposition to do, it was difficult for it to be known as farage banker. i think it's undoubtedly what became known as that, given its commercial strategy. >> andrew to interrupt >> andrew sorry to interrupt varieties bank was likely be varieties bank was likely to be commercially damaging to them . commercially damaging to them. andrew very sorry, but was it known as being nigel farage bank? did any of us really know it was his bank until well , it it was his bank until well, it came up in the media. he revealed , and he revealed it was revealed, and he revealed it was he backed with coutts in an interview himself some years ago i >> -- >> so he was known to be to bank with coutts that wasn't a that was he was perhaps their most famous of their current people that banked with them. and so i don't think there's any doubt that he would be known also if he in so far as he that was a pubuc he in so far as he that was a public knowledge that would

provide a difficulty for them in repositioning themselves in the way that they were seeking to reposition so reposition themselves. so their reputational committees reputational risk committees assessment that was assessment that there was a commercial threat associated with being associated with nigel farage, i think is undoubted correct. now he was he that positioning of being associated with them created a problem for them . they were allowed in that them. they were allowed in that circumstance to dissociate themselves from him. perhaps they shouldn't have been allowed to do that, but had they not chosen to dissociate themselves from him, given that that that that he provided this difficult dodi that was going to be commercially damaging to them. now, we might think that it's a very undesirable world we have in which smears and potentially andrew so we are very short on time here. >> i just want to ask you this particular question , which is if particular question, which is if . a private bank , they're not . a private bank, they're not breaking the law by getting rid of nigel farage, but it does

appear they did lie to him. they they did lie to him about why he was removed. and then they briefed the bbc about his personal financial details whilst removing him as a customer may not have been illegal. this secret briefing to the bbc and this perhaps opaque way in which they operate that seems more dodgy . seems more dodgy. >> absolutely . so insofar as >> absolutely. so insofar as they've given a false representation in a kind of pubuchy representation in a kind of publicity battle with farage about why they removed him, then that would clearly be that would clearly be improper. and nobody's going to defend lying about why you do things. but i think that that's one should distinguish that from the policy position . and i think if one position. and i think if one thinks about the question of is it is it something which we want companies in general to be able to do, because it's not only banks, it's not only. coutts it's lots and lots of companies adopt these kinds of woke approaches and consumers are

very sensitive when they don't. we only have to go back. i mean it's not even a new thing. if you go back into the 1990s for example, there was the brent spar affair where faced spar affair where shell faced consumer activists because it wasn't behaving in a way regarded as environmentally friendly. companies do friendly. if companies don't do these things , they bear a these things, they bear a commercial cost and that's something that we have chosen as a society to do. i think that it's we're going to have to leave. >> it been suggested that you can't interrupt can't access banks interrupt some with ed davey some of our time with ed davey with sarah davey, you with sarah davey, but thank you so for your views this so much for your views this morning. getting more morning. we'll be getting more on of these topics. on all of these topics. >> indeed, i want my businesses to service product. to offer a service or a product. >> be with more >> well, we'll be back with more of after very short

gb news radio . gb news radio. >> very good morning to you. it's 1044 and >> very good morning to you. it's1044 and this is britain's newsroom here on gb news. with me tom harwood and emily carver. yes. >> so you've been getting in touch thick and fast about our big question of the day. is 25 years old too young to become an mp ? i think it is a bit too mp? i think it is a bit too young and i don't think you have enough life experience. i think we should have a diversity of mps. >> we should have mps in their 80s, should have mps in their 80s, we should have mps in their 20s probably the majority of mps should somewhere in between should come somewhere in between the people on the two. but having people on each smattering. each end, a smattering. >> always balanced . tom >> it's always so balanced. tom anyway, what have you been saying by the saying at home? pat says by the age 25, winston churchill had age of 25, winston churchill had joined the army, written three books, in four wars books, participated in four wars

on continents, and on three continents, and conducted daring escape after conducted a daring escape after being captured by the brs. compare average 25 compare this with the average 25 year life experience today . year old life experience today. that's a comment, of course, on what tom was saying. yes, that winston churchill became an mp at the age of 25. >> i'm not saying every 25 year old mp will be a winston churchill. that's quite churchill. i think that's quite a rare thing in history. but but yes, do the point, yes, no, i do take the point, although councillor has although councillor allard has written hello good morning written in hello, good morning councillor. he was councillor. to say that he was elected in 2022 at the age of 25 and faced similar comment . yes, and faced similar comment. yes, it's not about age , it's about it's not about age, it's about what you can bring to the table, says councillor allard. and i think that that is a very fair point. it's so am just being cruel? >> let me know if you think i'm just being a bit. mead well, maybe i'm just jealous. >> gbviews@gbnews.com. one other one caught my actually one that caught my eye actually was jacqueline who wrote in was from jacqueline who wrote in to that my father became an to say that my father became an mp baby, baby of the house mp and baby, baby of the house in 1948 when he was 25 years old. >> yes, baby in the house is the technical term, isn't it, for the youngest mp? >> whereas the father of the

house isn't the oldest mp, it's the mp who served there the longest. >> and it was kenneth clarke. >> and it was kenneth clarke. >> it was. it is now. oh, goodness me. come on. oh, no, no, i do. no i do know it no, no, i do. no i do know it will come to me anyway. we'll let you know later. >> email us. >> email us. >> gosh, that's embarrassing, isn't it? but but jacqueline has said during the said that during the by—election, he personally visited the visited every house in the constituency. i think that would be about impossible. i be just about impossible. now, i mean, constituency, mean, the average constituency, these about 70,000 these days is about 70,000 voters. oh i've just i've just been harriet harman , of course, been harriet harman, of course, is the is the is the mother of the house. is she also the. no, i think there is a father of the house as well. this brings us to the sorry, i'm just talking completely off screen. we should we should welcome everyone into the now. doing the discussion. now. we're doing a news review, and i'm delighted to be joined denby and to be joined by alice denby and by let's by kevin craig. let's let's start on this question start off on this question actually, kevin craig, you were just pointing out to me, you wrote in your notes harriet harriet the mother of harriet harman, the mother of the the longest the house, the longest serving woman but wasn't really woman. but that wasn't really a position very recently. position until very recently.

>> i'm not sure actually >> yeah, i'm not sure actually if who the father still if there is who the father still is, but yeah, she's the longest serving, elected in 83. originally and on the point of 25, i mean, look, you can fly planes at 25. you can operate in hospitals . and i think you're hospitals. and i think you're just being very mean there, emily. and you know, i was first elected to councillor at 25. you tom stood for to be a councillor unsuccessfully as a paper candidate . but, you know, you candidate. but, you know, you were young, you were young. >> i did a friend to a favour, a young friend. >> so you know, you've lived, you've lived what you're saying. and i think the funny thing is i didn't even get to vote for myself because i spent the whole day completely day campaigning in a completely different the country. different part of the country. but it's more i just but i think it's more the i just young people these days, i don't think the life experience. think have the life experience. >> chap well done >> you know, this chap well done to him. good job. good job, alice. you know , he was alice. but you know, he was a parliamentary researcher and a spad, i believe. and three years at oxford takes you to 25. >> yeah, i mean, think it's >> yeah, i mean, i think it's perfectly fine to have young people in the house of commons,

especially we've got such especially when we've got such terrible inequality terrible generational inequality . people . you know, young people don't vote so their vote enough, right? so their interests represented interests don't get represented enough think enough in parliament. i think a bigger that if you bigger problem is that if you look at what happens to young mps in parliament, if you look at davidson and at like diana davidson and mhairi black, they're all quitting because it's such a terrible hope guy terrible job. so i hope this guy has right time when he gets has an a right time when he gets to the commons. well he might he might only there for a matter might only be there for a matter of months. might only be there for a matter of morcourse, when the next >> of course, when the next general election you general election comes, you think, you reckon. i don't think, well you reckon. i don't know. by sometimes know. i don't know by sometimes by do peculiar things. by elections do peculiar things. and was a 20,000 and of course, this was a 20,000 majority. the party majority. if the labour party wins every seat up to a 10,000 majority, this guy still doesn't hold next time, maybe hold his seat. next time, maybe he maybe he'll embed hold his seat. next time, maybe he over)e he'll embed hold his seat. next time, maybe he over the e'll embed hold his seat. next time, maybe he over the nextembed hold his seat. next time, maybe he over the next fewed hold his seat. next time, maybe he over the next few months himself over the next few months of get other news. of that. let's get other news. >> absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. let's get to news. the times to other news. alice the times front natwest's boss says front page natwest's boss says sorry farage were sorry over farage row. we were just talking andrew about just talking to andrew about this. yeah i think this is a well deserved apology. >> i think he's been treated extremely badly. i think the wider significance of this, whatever you think about nigel farage personally, i think the wider this is a wider significance of this is a real it's of

real problem. it's a kind of problem with capitalism itself. so what's called a b so cootes is what's called a b corp, and these kind of corp, and these are kind of companies that say that well companies that say that as well as profits, need to as making profits, they need to kind promote inclusive values kind of promote inclusive values and change of and climate change and all of these things. idea a these things. the idea that a bank cootes, where you need bank like cootes, where you need £1 million just to start, is an inclusive organisation, is frankly but also think frankly a joke. but i also think this us away from this takes us away from the whole point how markets and whole point of how markets and businesses should work. they should about making a should be caring about making a profit giving their profit and giving their customers a good service, not trying to promote values. customers a good service, not tryi it's:o promote values. customers a good service, not tryi it's interesting, values. customers a good service, not tryi it's interesting, althoughes. >> it's interesting, although what andrew lilico was saying was that perhaps it is the market strategy of cootes, perhaps they're chasing after the new sort of tech elite who do have woke values. they want they want the ceos of these , i they want the ceos of these, i don't know, apps and websites to come on board and bank with them. maybe that's what they're getting at. >> well, i think look , i >> kevin well, i think look, i told early on that they told cootes early on that they should this. it's great that should do this. it's great that they've apologised was they've apologised and it was a mistake to have somebody at head office writing a 40 page dossier about nigel, all of which is

easily findable on the internet. and you know, cootes are a very progressive bank. i would disagree with alice there that, you know , capitalism is about you know, capitalism is about making money and i'm a firm believer in it and creating a business worth millions, employing a lot of people. but nowadays a lot of people, perhaps not not always on this station, but do want businesses to have more regard for the environment and care for their employees. so you know. >> well, hang on. are people who dispute the net zero as a as an aim or who backed brexit or who believe in strong borders and are angry about illegal migration, for example? are they just, you know, something for businesses to turf out? >> no, i didn't say that, emily. what i said was it was a mistake by cootes. you know, nigel has done nothing illegal. he's not taken any russian money. he hasn't broken any laws. and he's a master of pr and i knew he was going to spank cootes , you know, going to spank cootes, you know, and it was so obvious this was a

mistake. do you know what? >> i feel very embarrassed. i've just been told in my ear, sir peter bottomley is the father of the house and of course he is. i see him at prime minister's questions. he sits there in the little corner. yeah, no, sir. peter bottomley, man, peter bottomley, a great man, father anyway, peter bottomley, a great man, fathe|we anyway, peter bottomley, a great man, fathe|we on anyway, peter bottomley, a great man, fathe|we on to anyway, peter bottomley, a great man, fathe|we on to some vay, peter bottomley, a great man, fathe|we on to some more shall we get on to some more stories? because, kevin, you've picked up something tax picked up something about tax breaks office checkouts. yeah. >> i mean, i don't know if this is raising temperatures here today. just looking today. i'm just looking at the story forgive me, story on my phone. forgive me, but it's a think but it's a i think it's important. so background important. so i'm my background is obviously the is obviously supporting the labour party but when the labour party and but when the government things government does things that i think sensible and what this think are sensible and what this front story the times front page story in the times today saying that today is basically saying that there going to be breaks there are going to be tax breaks given to businesses and workers if the if staff get more regular health checks, because we as a country, i think we might all agree there's too many people off sick, sick, 2.5 million long term sickness . off sick, sick, 2.5 million long term sickness. it's off sick, sick, 2.5 million long term sickness . it's gone up by term sickness. it's gone up by 400,000 since covid. so you know, a good move in my opinion, by the government to try and reduce sickness levels.

>> yeah, no, i think that seems very reasonable. yes >> people have been calling britain's sick note britain. >> i wonder how much of it is legitimate, though. i do. i do sometimes think all of these people say that they're people who say that they're suddenly is that that suddenly ill is that is that 100% case? but hey, maybe 100% the case? but hey, maybe the of long covid are the rates of long covid are double average. double the average. >> believe in the civil >> i believe in the civil service >> this is the point, isn't it? it's interesting. if you look at the of sick days in the the number of sick days in the pubuc the number of sick days in the public sector versus the private, higher. and private, it's much higher. and you wonder why is . you have to wonder why that is. >> very funny. there are >> it's very funny. there are all of correlations with all sorts of correlations with people have long people who say they have long covid, most peculiar one covid, the most peculiar one that states found was that the united states found was that the united states found was that identify as that if you identify as bisexual, far more bisexual, you are far more likely to have long covid. and perhaps it's just the way that people's minds work if they feel like they're more open to experience and thinking that they're i've got a bit they're more, oh, i've got a bit of a tickly cough, maybe i've got maybe i should got long covid, maybe i should try. know. don't know. try. i don't know. i don't know. >> but they want try a bit of >> but they want to try a bit of that a correlation that genuinely a correlation that genuinely a correlation that found. that they found. >> and interestingly, it doesn't work. know, straight gays work. you know, straight gays and don't have that

and lesbians don't have that correlation. but bisexuals picked clearly do which does lead me to think that maybe long covid isn't quite as legitimate as , please do. as some blimey, please do. >> let us let us know at home if you are of that sexuality and you are of that sexuality and you long covid, we'd like you have long covid, we'd like to evidence to back up to see some evidence to back up that claim. >> we should. it's not my claim. it's the claim the us it's the claim of the us government. but alice, government. but. but alice, slightly more serious story now . prince andrew visited jeffrey epstein's place when he was under arrest . under arrest. >> where do you start with this? i mean, prince andrew visited jeffrey he was jeffrey epstein when he was under for sex offences. under arrest for sex offences. i mean, this man's judgement is just right. i mean , i just don't just right. i mean, i just don't know what to say about this. it's disgraceful. and it also reveals that in his notorious interview with emily maitlis that he lied. he said he had only met jeffrey epstein on one occasion. these court documents reveal it was more than once and this just disgraceful. this is just disgraceful. i think that this man deserves to be expelled from public life. >> i mean, to some extent he has

been, though there was the big ferrari about him automatically becoming one of the four people that going to take on. but that was going to take on. but then the king expelled him from that, in my that, quite rightly so, in my view. kevin, what do you make of this? yeah i mean, andrew, sadly view. kevin, what do you make of thishim ah i mean, andrew, sadly view. kevin, what do you make of thishim oni mean, andrew, sadly view. kevin, what do you make of thishim on anean, andrew, sadly view. kevin, what do you make of thishim on a human.ndrew, sadly view. kevin, what do you make of thishim on a human level, sadly view. kevin, what do you make of thishim on a human level, butily view. kevin, what do you make of thishim on a human level, but he for him on a human level, but he was danger to the institution was a danger to the institution of the monarchy. >> didn't british >> he didn't represent british values of honesty, decency, and he been effectively already he has been effectively already ostracised the family ostracised by the royal family and, you my day job is in and, you know, my day job is in pubuc and, you know, my day job is in public andrew's public relations. and andrew's interview is one of interview on newsnight is one of the broadcast television the worst broadcast television interventions in history of interventions in the history of tv. and you know, this further revelation just shows that he will remain on the sidelines of pubuc will remain on the sidelines of public life forever now. >> yeah, i think that's for sure i >> -- >> well, -_ >> well, on that note, kevin craig and alice denby, thank you so much talking through so much for talking us through those see more of those stories. we'll see more of you the next hour. but my you in the next hour. but my gosh, there's so much more to come. more by—election intrigue and other stories to and indeed other stories to stick us here on britain's stick with us here on britain's newsroom . newsroom. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather

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gb news. >> a very good morning to you. it's 11:00 on friday, the 21st of july, and it's byelection bonanza day here on britain's newsroom. with me, tom harwood and emily carver as rishi sunak narrowly avoided a total wipe—out last night. >> we ask, is there a narrow path to general election victory for the tories? and as labour achieves their biggest by—election swing since the days of tony blair, we ask can starmer fill that man's boots? now and as promised, tom harwood will be eating his hat live on air. so you're to going stick around. >> i slightly regret this late

night tweet last night as i perhaps underestimated how well the tories, the tories held a single seat. >> so there you go. you've got to do it. i will make sure he doesit. does it. >> yeah, that's coming up very, very soon. but of course, the question of the day we're asking is, is 25 too young to become an mp ? of course, the labour mp mp? of course, the labour mp keir martha was was elected last night. he's the tender age of 25. i say that as a 26 year old, but my goodness , should should but my goodness, should should 25 year olds be entering parliament? gb views at gb news dot com is the address to email, but before we get to all of that, let's have a little catch up with the latest news headunes. headlines. >> tom thank you very much and good morning. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. rishi

sunak has suffered a double by—election loss with labour and the liberal democrats , both the liberal democrats, both overturning majorities of about 20,000. labour won selby and ainsty and the lib dems took summerton and frome on sizeable swings . the prime minister says swings. the prime minister says the government's by—election, the government's by—election, the conservatives by—election victory in uxbridge and south ruislip boris johnson's old seat shows the next general election isn't a done deal. he said the defeats were far from favourable, but he plans to double down and deliver for the people department stores and furniture sellers had a good month as sales were higher than expected in june. figures from the office for national statistics found the retail industry did better than expected last month. sales in superman markets were also a driving force behind the bounce back growth still fell annually, but at its slowest rate since the beginning of the ukraine war. tenants are feeling the squeeze as landlords in and outside of london increase rents

. by between 3 and £500 per yeah . by between 3 and £500 per year. the average asking price for rents outside of london has risen by £308, with an average price per month of 1200, while landlords in the capital have increased their asking price by £559, with the average monthly rent at just over 2500 pounds fixed mortgage rates have risen again after a brief fall. finance information company moneyfacts found the average two year homeowner mortgage rate on the market edged back up to 6.8% today, from 6.79% yesterday. the fleeting dip was the first time average mortgage rates had fallen for months. five year fixes have also risen slightly, back to 6.32, up from 6.31% on thursday . parents struggling thursday. parents struggling with child care will receive what the government calls more properly and fairly funded

support . the chancellor, jeremy support. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, announced new measures in the budget in march , which will the budget in march, which will see some families claiming 30 hours of free childcare. a week from april next year. working parents of two year olds will be able to access 15 hours of free childcare is to be extended to working parents of all children older than nine months old. from september next year. now, older than nine months old. from september next year . now, the september next year. now, the group ceo of natwest, which includes coutts, has apologised to nigel farage after his account was closed. dame alison rose apologised for what she calls deeply inappropriate comments made about mr farage in the now published papers. she continued, saying it's not the company's policy to drop a customer on the basis of legally held politico and personal views. a full review of the processes on how these decisions are being made will be carried out. well, speaking on his show here on gb news last night, nigel says questions remain for natwest . natwest. >> but there's a reiteration of

the offer to give me natwest services . the offer to give me natwest services. this the offer to give me natwest services . this offer was the offer to give me natwest services. this offer was made verbally to me just before i went on air on gb news a couple of weeks ago. i also wonder if i go to natwest, how long will it be before they close me down? because there's no guarantee that they'll keep me as a customer. and that does genuinely me . genuinely concern me. >> ukraine's president vladimir zelenskyy, has sacked his country's ambassador to the uk . country's ambassador to the uk. vadym prystaiko was reportedly dismissed after publicly criticising the president's response to a row over gratitude for british military aid. earlier this month, a uk defence secretary, ben wallace, said the uk and us were not amazon when it came to kiev's request for weapons and military equipment. well, he called mr zelenskyy's promise to thank the uk defence minister every morning. unhealthy sarcasm . kyiv has unhealthy sarcasm. kyiv has given no official reason for the dismissal, but confirmed that mr prystaiko was no longer the ambassador to. meanwhile the white house has confirmed

ukraine's using us cluster bombs against russian forces in the country. national security spokesperson john kirby says they're being used effectively against russian defence and operations cluster munitions, which are banned in more than 100 countries released large numbers of smaller bomblets that can kill over a wide area . those can kill over a wide area. those that failed to explode pose a danger far into the future . the danger far into the future. the us agreed to supply them to boost ukraine's ammunition suppues boost ukraine's ammunition supplies as and holidaymakers have been warned not to touch dead birds on welsh beaches. as concerns rise over a bird flu outbreak in recent weeks, reports of bird carcases washing up on shores in west and north wales have increased as wild bird colonies around the uk continue to be affected. the welsh climate change minister, juue welsh climate change minister, julie james described the situation as heart wrenching . situation as heart wrenching. she said it's important people don't help spread the disease further . our don't help spread the disease further. our you're with gb news, we'll bring you more as it happens. now it's back to emily

and . and. tom >> well, a very good morning to you from myself and my hat. and of course, emily carver . my you from myself and my hat. and of course, emily carver. my name is tom harwood and this is britain's newsroom here on gb news. emily, why am i wearing a dunce cap? well tom tweeted something rather bizarre last night in a moment of madness. >> he suggested that if the tories hang on to one of the seats in the by—election he would eat his hat because he thought there was absolutely no chance that the tories would win . there we go. voting over now. i will eat an item of clothing on air if the tories hold a single seat. and guess what, tom? >> what happened? the tories held a single seat. do you know what the really annoying thing is? a number of is? i've spoken to a number of tories , senior tories who've tories, senior tories who've been phone and knocking been on the phone and knocking on doors the week before, and

they you know what, they were going, you know what, uxbndge? they were going, you know what, uxbridge? think we uxbridge? i think, i think we might i think we might. might do it. i think we might. and this is the worst expectations in the expectations management in the world. wrong world. there's something wrong with it. these people are just world. there's something wrong with it. knocking ople are just world. there's something wrong with it. knocking on e are just world. there's something wrong with it. knocking on thee just world. there's something wrong with it.knocking on the pledges clearly knocking on the pledges that being that they know they're being sent good doors, maybe sent to the good doors, maybe the of high, high ranking the sort of high, high ranking mps sent to the mps are being sent to the conservative of conservative areas of the constituency. labour people. conservative areas of the cwas tuency. labour people. conservative areas of the cwas talking labour people. conservative areas of the cwas talking to labour people. conservative areas of the cwas talking to said,our people. conservative areas of the cwas talking to said, oh people. conservative areas of the cwas talking to said, oh no, ple. i was talking to said, oh no, we're really doing very well there. that's what there. but you know, that's what you usually have your finger on. >> the but you've got >> the pulse, but now you've got to words or eat your hat. >> do you know what it was? i didn't go to uxbridge. i should have gone to uxbridge. i should have gone to uxbridge. i should have have felt mood have should have felt the mood on but, you know. on the ground. but, you know. well, on, then. i'm a man of well, go on, then. i'm a man of my i thought you've got to my word. i thought you've got to do eat it. >> oh, yum. look at that. that looks delicious. delicious he's eating his nutritious. this is what do as a what you should not do as a political reporter. should what you should not do as a polisayl reporter. should what you should not do as a polisay suchyrteh should what you should not do as a polisay such things should what you should not do as a polisay such things when uld what you should not do as a polisay such things when you not say such things when you don't what the outcome don't know what the outcome could you know, we we could be. you know, we all we all pontificate. all suggest all pontificate. we all suggest what you but what might happen, you know? but i keep quiet until we i prefer to keep quiet until we have those results because this is up doing, isn't is what you end up doing, isn't

it? eating a hat? >> i'm a man of my word. if i. if i say something, i'll follow it and honestly, it through. and honestly, i think the biggest lesson i've learnt is going to talk learnt is if i'm going to talk about a by—election i should jolly there before jolly well go there before making late night he making a late night tweet. he always likelihood. making a late night tweet. he aleh, likelihood. making a late night tweet. he aleh, tom likelihood. making a late night tweet. he aleh, tom always ihood. making a late night tweet. he aleh, tom always has d. making a late night tweet. he aleh, tom always has his finger >> oh, tom always has his finger on the political pulse, but not today. and he eating the hat. today. and he is eating the hat. >> it's a hat i made actually in an break origami an ad break using origami origami techniques. yes. which does think it will does mean i don't think it will kill it's not like i'm kill me. it's not like i'm drinking diet coke or anything. you like you're you know, it's not like you're drinking coke. drinking diet diet coke. >> you know while you're >> you know what? while you're munching i'm going to go munching away, i'm going to go through two because through a view or two because we've had some brilliant ones coming stephen coming through. stephen says they election results . they saw the election results. yes. that's the one where the 25 year won are more likely to year old won are more likely to be conservative apathy , not a be conservative apathy, not a rise in labour. look at the turnout. around 20,000 people stayed that is stayed at home. yes, that is a very point indeed. very good point indeed. obviously turnout is usually a bit lower during a by—election, but there you go. but anyway, i think you can stop munching that now. you've done your duty. >> going to i'm going to

>> i'm going to i'm going to finish your i'm going to finish your word. i'm going to finish your word. i'm going to finish okay. finish it. okay. >> but you did promise he would finish it. >> let's more on the >> but let's get more on the by—election. i be by—election. will i be incredibly with my manners incredibly rude with my manners and you want and my mouth? emily, do you want to this one? to take this one? >> do, yes. joining us now is >> i do, yes. joining us now is luke uk director of more luke tryl, uk director of more in common. luke hello and sorry , i'm just giggling because tom has been , as you've probably has been, as you've probably seen, tom has been eating his hat he got the election hat because he got the election results wrong, completely wrong . so what's your reaction ? . so what's your reaction? >> um, well , i . so what's your reaction? >> um, well, i guess my main reaction is that the voters don't like to make it easy for us to come to broad sweeping conclusions . in fact, if you had conclusions. in fact, if you had looked at any of those by elections in isolation, let's imagine they'd taken place on separate nights. you could have come up with three very different stories if it had just been selby, we'd be talking about the conservatives heading for a 1997 style wipe—out if it had just been the uxbridge by—election, we'd be talking about labour not really sealing the deal . and actually is there

the deal. and actually is there hope for a tory comeback? and of course that result in somerton perhaps the most predictable of the three showing the strength of the liberal democrats by—election in machines. so three quite interesting results in very different parts of the country and very hard to come up with. one clear overall narrative . narrative. >> so varying paths that the next 12 or so months could could take. people often talk about what is the conservatives path for victory and discuss what is described as a very, very narrow path. what could rishi sunak do? what needs to go right for rishi sunakin what needs to go right for rishi sunak in order for him to cling on to some semblance of majority . well as you say, the chance of the conservatives from where we're standing now hanging on to a majority seems pretty difficult. >> but i think uxbridge showed

us what that might look like. so first of all, you'd have to hope that the economy improves quite significantly over the next year or so. and not just those headune or so. and not just those headline figures, but that people actually feel it . and people actually feel it. and then what the conservatives will be hoping to do from uxbridge is to identify similar what are sometimes called wedge style issues , issues that really issues, issues that really differentiate them from labour and put them on the right side of the electorate. so in uxbndge of the electorate. so in uxbridge that was the ulez extension, which was very unpopular with the voters that we spoke to. you should perhaps tom, have gone and spoken to some of those voters before making your bet about eating your hat . but the conservatives your hat. but the conservatives will be looking for similar factors at play. so i think we can see the conservatives potentially engaging in quite a guerrilla style campaign between now and the next election on and just hoping that what uxbridge shows is that when labour face a

proper, disciplined campaign , proper, disciplined campaign, that lead isn't quite as strong as it first appears. of course , as it first appears. of course, on the flip side, we have selby, which was a much more traditional straight fight without those complicating factors. and there we saw labour achieve well overturn the biggest majority that they've overturned in a by—election in recent history. so it's not going to be easy for the conservatives to find magic sauce . sauce. >> just just on that ulez issue , i think i think one of the things that i might have misinterpreted is that because it was so obviously unpopular , it was so obviously unpopular, the labour candidate in the by—election actually said he started agreeing with the don't expand ulez position , which i expand ulez position, which i thought, you know, might sort of neutralise that a bit. and because conservative party because the conservative party is everywhere else is so popular everywhere else they done, but they might have done, but actually that actually what it seems that might have is , is made the might have done is, is made the labour seem labour message seem more confused less united. and confused and less united. and i think that is definitely true. >> again, it was really interesting when we held a focus

group in uxbridge that people had noticed that the labour candidates , what we would call candidates, what we would call flip flop on the issue and that's really unusual. you don't normally get people in a seat knowing about individual local candidates stances. so it just shows how high profile ulez was and this sense that actually, you know , labour didn't have you know, labour didn't have a consistent message. and the problem there, of course, is we know that that isn't limited to ulez when we speak to voters right around the country, they say, look, i'm kind of done with the conservatives you know, they've messed up the economy. they're obsessed with chaos. i don't really know what labour stands they just seem to stands for. they just seem to criticise without a criticise without having a platform their own. and i platform of their own. and i think there will people in think there will be people in labour looking at this labour hq now looking at this result and saying, no, no, we've got to have something more concrete and definitive to offer to the electorate if we're going to the electorate if we're going to to that big lead. to hold to on that big lead. >> think you're absolutely >> i think you're absolutely right a lot people say right there. a lot of people say they know quite exactly

they don't know quite exactly what that the labour party stand for under keir starmer, but thank very indeed. luke thank you very much indeed. luke tryl, of more in common. >> well, let's get some more on the background of the politics of all of this. joining us now is senior political is the senior political correspondent the correspondent at the daily express, kelsey . and express, christian kelsey. and christian kelsey, have you ever had to a hat ? no had to eat a hat? no >> so very, very pleased that i don't have the ego that leads me down the route of pledging such silly things . silly things. >> i my i became political in 2015. and i remember the night of that exit poll and we had, i think, both alastair campbell and one of the senior lib dems both promising to eat clothing and they were both humiliated. and i've pledged never to make such a silly error . such a silly error. >> and did you make some forecasts ahead of this? these byelection days? were you surprised in any way by the outcomes . outcomes. >> oh, enormously . i

outcomes. >> oh, enormously. i think i think the one thing that you can praise hq for in this election is that their expectation management game was a heck of a lot better than it was at those local elections where, of course, they were saying, will, we'll lose a thousand seats. everyone heard , you know, we'll everyone heard, you know, we'll lose substantially fewer than that. they lose a thousand seats. they're left looking slightly ridiculous . but no one slightly ridiculous. but no one i don't think i certainly didn't expect them to win in london. and i'm starting to wonder whether the ulez issue for the conservatives is a bit like inheritance tax. it's one of those issues that is incredibly divisive and it's a very unpopular policy despite . right. unpopular policy despite. right. not actually affecting a great deal of people . well, so i think deal of people. well, so i think what it shows that many people have said is that the tories have said is that the tories have to find a dividing line. they have to find an issue that labour can't compete on or have to flip flop over to their

position and compromise on in order to garner that sort of support across the country . the support across the country. the difficulty is finding a national level issue that's similar to ulez. >> well of course the conservative party hasn't officially said anything about inheritance tax yet, although there have been some leaks to certain newspapers . that is such certain newspapers. that is such an interesting comparison because as you rightly say, ulez doesn't affect every car. it affects a small number of cars. but people feel there's an inherent unfairness the way inherent unfairness to the way inherent unfairness to the way in it's carried out. and in which it's carried out. and the inheritance the same way that inheritance tax branded as a tax is sometimes branded as a death tax. people after they die, the state stripping their assets from them, losing their family homes and all the rest of it, perhaps that really key it, perhaps that is a really key wedge issue that the conservatives might be might do well at sort of promoting . well at sort of promoting. >> yeah , i think absolutely. and >> yeah, i think absolutely. and it's one of those things that rishi sunak needs to go away and think about. i think we understand that he's now going to the summer basically to spend the summer basically preparing for the conservative

party conference, which is going to be seen as absolutely make or break for rishi sunak premiership. he's going to be formulating a very important keynote speech in which he is going to set out the big vision. he's going to try , try and turn he's going to try, try and turn away from what has sort of been, you know, labelled as sort of mckinsey style crisis level managed politics into something that can maybe offer a bit of hope, especially for tory activists and the electorate. so that's the big issue now. and i think he'll just be incredibly relieved that that, you know, actually i think even with three losses to interrupt you there . losses to interrupt you there. >> but we don't have much time left out. there have been rumours about about a reshuffle coming up. do you think rishi sunakis coming up. do you think rishi sunak is going to change the deck chairs around ? deck chairs around? >> uh, we're getting to a point where it looks unlikely to happen today. i put in a couple of requests with number 10 people who were , you know, they,

people who were, you know, they, they denied it, i think on wednesday. i've not heard anything back. so we can't rule it out for certain. but i think it's always good to have that carrot and stick dangling over potentially rebellious mps over a long summer break. >> my theory is that they would have done the reshuffle if they lost all the seats, but because they've clung up in uxbridge, they've clung up in uxbridge, they don't really need to move they don't really need to move the story on that much. they can. they can stick to that bit of news. but christian khoury, thank so much for us thank you so much for talking us through those big political issues to the future issues and looking to the future as which like do as well, which we like to do here newsroom. well here on britain's newsroom. well well, coming up after the break, in moments, we'll be in a few moments, we'll be joined steve mccabe, joined by steve mccabe, the labour for birmingham, selly labour mp for birmingham, selly oak, and indeed oak, for his thoughts and indeed labour reaction. stick with for us that . us that. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello, it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. with the gb news forecast, sunny spells in 1 or 2 spots today,

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p.m. till 11 pm. on gb news, britain's news . p.m. till 11 pm. on gb news, britain's news. channel >> good morning . it's 1024, just >> good morning. it's 1024, just about to turn 1011 2011. i can't even read this morning. goodness me, i was in fairness, i was up watching some of those results last night. those by elections. but it's not just by elections we're watching here on britain's news room. we're also talking about some of the other big stories of the my name is stories of the day. my name is tom and i'm with tom harwood and i'm here with emily carr. >> yes. now for some good news, retail have increased by retail sales have increased by 0.7% the month june. 0.7% in the month of june. that's defeating forecasts for a mere 0.2% rise and government borrowing for june is mere 0.2% rise and government borrowing forjune is less mere 0.2% rise and government borrowing for june is less than expected to, but still marks the third highest june on record . third highest june on record. >> well, let's make some sense of what on earth all of that means. joining us for more on this is our economics and business editor liam halligan with on money . with on the money. >> so people are spending more

money they are indeed emily retail sales are up on the month, but they're actually down on last year. >> let me explain how those two things can happen at once so we can have look at the numbers. can have a look at the numbers. sales volumes were up nought point june on the previous point 7% in june on the previous month 20th, 23. but those month on may 20th, 23. but those sales were down 1% on june 20th, 22. so there's a sort of gradual slowdown happening, happening. what we saw in the in june last month , the month we just had, we month, the month we just had, we saw a bounce back in food sales, weather was very good . lots of weather was very good. lots of people having barbecues and so on, having people around, celebrating the good weather. having said that , overall having said that, overall consumer confidence in july, these are unofficial numbers from the gfk consultancy is actually down and it seems now that the interest rate rises , that the interest rate rises, fiscal drag dragging people into higher tax thresholds , less higher tax thresholds, less disposable income . the idea that disposable income. the idea that the uk is going to go into

recession, which is pretty now almost nailed on, i'd say , wow. almost nailed on, i'd say, wow. and you know what? it's not just a crisis of consumer confidence that we seem to have down the track. it's also a crisis of business confidence, particularly those small businesses that we champion here on gb news here indeed is alan sodi of the federation of small businesses . there is a cost of businesses. there is a cost of living crisis affecting consumers, but there is a cost of doing business crisis as well, particularly affecting smaller businesses who don't have the big pockets of big, large global corporates. >> and that higher interest rates, it's inflation, it's the highest tax burden for 70 years. the only way out of that is to ease some of that burden, to have policies in place from government and from others that actually allow these businesses to have more of the money that they take to spend, to invest, to grow, to create jobs, and ultimately to get back economic recovery . recovery. >> well, some hope of recovery there, but i suppose it is

interest thing. on the one hand, there's sort of tightening going on with interest rate rises, but the government is still borrowing a lot of money every yeah >> the government's borrowing a huge amount just on the federation of small businesses. they're they're really looking to see what happens as indeed much of the business world is. and indeed, many mortgage holders. what happens on the 3rd of august, that's when the bank of august, that's when the bank of england next will make an interest move or not its interest rate move or not its next decision. there is now a genuine debate about whether or not rates should go up, given that inflation a bit lower that inflation was a bit lower earlier week, now earlier this week, 7.9% now dunng earlier this week, 7.9% now during year june . so during the year to june. so i think that's a really, really interesting sort of moment in british economic policy making. and say , tom, the and as you say, tom, the government is still borrowing like billyo . in june, the like billyo. in june, the british . state borrowed £8.5 british. state borrowed £8.5 billion pounds in june alone. that's the equivalent. you know, if you think like £6 billion is a penny on income tax, that's like the revenue that you that you get from three pe on the

bafic you get from three pe on the basic rate of income tax. they borrowed all of that. that's slightly less than in june 2022. nought £400 million less than in june 2022, but it's still the third highest june total on record. and get this for me, this is this really exposes why it's so grotesque that the government's borrowing so much money because of that £18.5 billion that we borrowed in june, £12.5 billion of it went on debt interest payments, paying on debt interest payments, paying the debt on previous paying paying the debt on previous paying the debt on previous paying the interest on previous debt. >> that's almost all of the borrowing we did, or at least the majority of the borrowing we did in june is going on paying for the borrowing we're doing. but it doesn't but of course it doesn't stop the political media class saying instantly, oh, we're borrowing slightly less than we thought we were to borrow. slightly less than we thought we werso to borrow. slightly less than we thought we werso now to borrow. slightly less than we thought we werso now we aorrow. slightly less than we thought we werso now we canyw. slightly less than we thought we werso now we can cut taxes. i >> so now we can cut taxes. i mean, it's just it's circular thinking. i want to see lower taxes . i absolutely but taxes. i absolutely do. but you've to cut taxes you've got to cut taxes because you've got to cut taxes because you that tax cuts are you believe that tax cuts are going to lead to more growth, which solves borrowing there.

don't cut taxes because we're paying don't cut taxes because we're paying less. we're paying slightly less. we're borrowing slightly less than the obr said we were going to going to be borrowing there does seem to be borrowing there does seem to very popular view, to be a very popular view, unsurprisingly, we just unsurprisingly, that we can just continue borrow as we continue to borrow as much as we like forever and a day. >> let us know what you think about that. >> views at gb >> yes. gb views at gb news dot com. liam, thank you much com. liam, thank you so much for bringing those bringing us those latest slightly worrying statistics. bringing us those latest sligithe worrying statistics. bringing us those latest sligithe gooding statistics. bringing us those latest sligithe good newsatistics. bringing us those latest sligithe good news mixed. bringing us those latest sligithe good news mixed in there and the good news mixed in there with the pretty little bit of a glimmer of hope, although liam said a recession is very much well , odds on said a recession is very much well, odds on yeah, odds on goodness well, it's been goodness me. well, it's been a dramatic night. course there dramatic night. of course there were main parties were the three main parties winning one by—election each in a really quite equitable outcome . is this what elections would be like under communism? i'm not sure. one each. >> there would be only one party, tom. under communist completely. the labour party won the selby and ainsty by—election considered a victory for sir keir starmer's party. of course, as they managed to overturn a tory majority of more than 20,000. >> well, let's speak to a representative of the labour party now, steve mccabe the

party now, steve mccabe is the labour for birmingham, selly labour mp for birmingham, selly oak steve, i suppose on the oak and steve, i suppose on the one hand, congratulations . the one hand, congratulations. the labour party overturned a huge majority up in selby, but on the other hand everyone expected you to win uxbridge a majority. that was less than half that of selby and you didn't manage it. >> yeah, well if i'm going to be honest, it was a night of mixed fortunes. selby is a spectacular result . i don't think anyone result. i don't think anyone would argue with that. and keir mather deserves all our congratulations for a brilliant campaign there. um and i think in selby what we did see is something labour's been looking for. there was evidence of tory voters switching directly to labour and that is very encouraging in uxbridge as you say, very different picture. i mean a lot of the focus is going to be on the, the ulez element. i mean i wonder if we need to

pay a i mean i wonder if we need to pay a little bit more attention in to the, the messaging in that campaign , to the expectation campaign, to the expectation managed and to maybe the structure and organisation of the campaign at labour had never won uxbridge , i don't think won uxbridge, i don't think since 1966 when it was quite a different seat. so i mean, the expectation that we would win there, i'm not sure whether that was the smartest thing to write. and as i say, if us was the issue that people think it was, it's amazing that that wasn't uncovered in sort of pre byelection research so that there was better preparation for it. now very quickly, i've been getting a bit of grief. >> well divided opinion over keir mather the new mp labour mp in selby he is only 25 and from what i've seen he's been a parliamentary researcher for wes streeting. he's worked a bit in pubuc streeting. he's worked a bit in public affairs. is that really the type of candidate that

labour voters want? yes, he won in selby, but that is that the right type of candidate to represent that people well. >> so johnny mercer had a few lines on this as well recently . lines on this as well recently. uh, look the people of selby certainly wanted dumas . i think certainly wanted dumas. i think there's no doubt about that . and there's no doubt about that. and if we're going to start questioning people's background and their age, you know, we're going to start having to ask what charlotte owen did to merit a lifetime job in the house of lords . lords. >> fair enough . that is a fair point. >> i think that's that's probably a more pertinent and recent example. i kept bringing up pitt, the younger, earlier in our conversation , who i'm a big our conversation, who i'm a big fan of, but but, but no looking more more seriously now for the for the labour party and the prospects just very briefly, is labour now going to win the general election ? this this is general election? this this is pretty much dead cert . pretty much dead cert. >> well i think what it show is, is that we are capable of winning and i think that's what

selby reveals. >> and as i say, tony, voters switching direct, but i think it also shows it's not in the bag and it would be really silly of anyone on the labour side to assume that this is just a matter of time. now i think the dealis matter of time. now i think the deal is yet to be done with the public. >> thank you very much indeed, steve mccabe there, labour mp for birmingham selly oak celebrating that selby win . celebrating that selby win. >> and indeed a word of caution about about being too overly celebratory, really nothing's nothing's in the bag . well, nothing's in the bag. well, still to come it's your news headunes still to come it's your news headlines with tatiana . tom headlines with tatiana. tom thank you. >> this is the latest from the gb newsroom . rishi sunak has gb newsroom. rishi sunak has suffered a double by—election loss with labour and the liberal democrats, overturning democrats, both overturning majorities of more than 20,000. labour won selby and ainsty and the lib dems took somerton and frome on sizeable swings. the prime minister says the

conservatives by—election victory in uxbridge and south ruislip boris johnson's old seat now shows the next general election isn't a done deal. he said the defeats were far from favourable , but he plans to favourable, but he plans to double down and deliver for the people . depart apartment stores people. depart apartment stores and furniture sellers had a good month as sales were higher than expected in june. figures from the office for national statistics found the retail industry did better than expected last month. sales in supermarkets were also a driving force behind the bounce back growth still fell annually, but at the slowest rate since the beginning of the ukraine war. tenants are feeling the squeeze as landlords in and outside of london increase rents by between three and £500 per year. the average asking price for rents outside of london has risen by £308, with an average price per month of £1,200, while landlords in the capital have increased

their asking price by £559, with their asking price by £559, with the average monthly rent at just over 2500 . and ukraine's over 2500. and ukraine's president vladimir zelenskyy has sacked his country's ambassador to the uk. vadym prystaiko was reportedly dismissed after publicly criticising the president . his response to a row president. his response to a row over gratitude for british military aid . earlier this military aid. earlier this month. defence secretary ben wallace said the uk and us were not amazon when it came to kiev's request for weapons and military equipment. mr prystaiko called zelenskyy's promise to thank the uk defence minister every morning unhealthy sarcasm. kyiv gave no official reason for the dismissal, but confirmed that mr prystaiko was no longer the ambassador . you can get more the ambassador. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com i >> -- >> direct bullion sponsors the

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tv radio and online gb news. britain's news . tv radio and online gb news. britain's news. channel >> well a very good morning to you. it's 1141. >> well a very good morning to you. it's1141. in three seconds it's 1141 here on you. it's1141. in three seconds it's1141 here on britain's newsroom on gb news. with me, tom harwood and emily carver. >> yes. and we have our lovely panel >> yes. and we have our lovely panel, wonderful panel back with us, deputy editor of capex alice denby and political strategist and former labour councillor kevin craig to go through the biggest news stories of the day. alice shall we start with you? >> yeah, i wanted to talk about this story about a joint declaration between the eu and argentina, referring to the falkland islands as las malvinas . now that is obviously an extremely offensive to the people of the falkland islands who they held a referendum on. british sovereignty 2013. do british sovereignty in 2013. do you many people you know how many people voted against sovereignty? was against british sovereignty? was it oh, three people? it 4—3? oh, three people? >> and what's the population ?

>> and what's the population? oh, do we not know that? >> i don't know. i do know it was 99, 99.8 or something. 99% wanted to be british. these islands are british. >> there is no question about that. referring to them that. and referring to them by their deeply their argentinian name is deeply offensive. frankly i hate offensive. and frankly, i hate to confess to gb news viewers, but i remain in the but i voted remain in the referendum. reconsidering but i voted remain in the refeway um. reconsidering but i voted remain in the refeway they're reconsidering but i voted remain in the refeway they're treating iering but i voted remain in the refeway they're treating these the way they're treating these british territory was it deliberately provocative, do you think ? i think it was just an think? i think it was just an oversight. i mean, perhaps i suppose you argue from suppose you could argue from a remain that had the suppose you could argue from a ren been that had the suppose you could argue from a renbeen at that had the suppose you could argue from a renbeen at the that had the suppose you could argue from a ren been at the table,at had the suppose you could argue from a ren been at the table, this|d the uk been at the table, this mistake wouldn't have got made. but think because they but yeah, i think because they never when we never annoyed the brits when we were there , goodness me. were there, goodness me. >> kevin, do you have anything to say about that one? >> i just think it's really stupid. did on behalf of the european union to do something which know, we've which you know, we've got veterans, people veterans, we've got people who lost their lives in that conflict. they self—determine as proud . and yeah, a real proud brits. and yeah, a real mistake , which i'm glad they've mistake, which i'm glad they've corrected. i don't i think it mistake, which i'm glad they've corr

correct ourselves. but, you know , we're not there anymore. so this is what happens. tom, emily but i worry the but yes, i do worry that the president in argentina will take this well. this as well. >> has taken it as a big >> he has taken it as a big diplomatic win. mean, diplomatic win. i mean, campaign. further, saw tweet diplomatic win. i mean, campsome further, saw tweet diplomatic win. i mean, campsome foreign saw tweet diplomatic win. i mean, campsome foreign ministertweet diplomatic win. i mean, campsome foreign minister inaet from some foreign minister in argentina saying self—determination does not appiy self—determination does not apply to the falkland islands or they called them las malvinas. >> extraordinary >> what an extraordinary worldview believe in worldview where you believe in self—determination and clearly they they believe in their independence from spain. but but they don't believe in the right of people of the falkland of the people of the falkland islands getting islands anyway, i'm getting i'm getting away from us. >> there's chance that they getting away from us. >> th> th> th> th> th> th> it depends how depleted our armed forces become. but but kevin, just oil. armed forces become. but but keerah, just oil. armed forces become. but but keerah, i|ust oil. armed forces become. but but keerah, i think oil. this >> yeah, i think i chose this story because think just just story because i think just just stop protesters whilst stop oil protesters whilst i have of sympathy with have a lot of sympathy with their objectives, which is their their objectives, which is a better planet and environment, they really now have got low levels, i would say, of public support. >> so much so that people are now and some well known youtubers are are doing to just

stop oil as just stop oil has been doing to the rest of the country in recent weeks and months. and there's a very funny story on the front page of the metro about how this happened yesterday and, know, at some yesterday and, you know, at some point going stop point they're to going stop these protests, i think, because, the because, you know, the government them. because, you know, the govestarmer them. because, you know, the govestarmer thinks them. because, you know, the govestarmer thinks it's them. keir starmer thinks it's selfish. i think right that selfish. i think he's right that they doing these protests they are doing these protests and now the public are taking things into their own hands. and it's quite funny. >> conservatives are trying >> the conservatives are trying to some over this in to make some gains over this in terms of public support. you know, writing letters to the labour leadership saying, you back just stop oil, you should sack your shadow ministers. that's what suella braverman said. and then grant shapps also piped up, i mean, emily, for just accuracy's sake, i mean keir starmer does not support just stop oil >> they share the same donors. well, one guy who's an energy entrepreneur owns a football club. >> he also supports them. but, you know, just he the labour party not support the party does not support the actions of just stop oil. it just doesn't . just doesn't. >> i wonder if there's actually a counterproductive point here

about just stop oil. right wing people up so much that they're more likely to say, do you know what, let's a new oil what, let's open a new oil field. let's do not because field. let's do it. not because we just to spite, spite we want to just to spite, spite the smug who who want to throw paint at paintings. >> it'sjust paint at paintings. >> it's just your way of thinking, tom. >> i feel like there's a fairly powerful consensus that climate change is happening and we do need to take action to prevent it. we've seen these extraordinary heatwaves in europe, and i think that there tactics completely counterproductive. and frankly , counterproductive. and frankly, i'm this is the i'm astonished that this is the worst happened to them so worst that's happened to them so far. that there far. i'm surprised that there hasn't been a horrible accident or an act of violence against or or an act of violence against them their tactics are them because their tactics are so the public. so alienating to the public. >> well, let's move on to the biggest story of the night, kevin. you've picked out, of course, these by elections . course, these by elections. well, i. course, these by elections. weiextraordinary results. yeah >> extraordinary results. yeah and i do think that you were surprised, obviously, and i hope you digested digestive system is okay. but i think it is i would say the big message is to the

labour party is you're not there yet. and you need to think very carefully about polls , losses carefully about polls, losses that cause people or can be perceived to cause financial harm. there's no doubt that air quality in london is terrible and hillingdon is the borough with the worst air quality in london. but ultimately cost of living crisis. it is a real wake up call. you know , i do think up call. you know, i do think that there is a huge chance of a labour led government or a labour led government or a labour government, but you know, the conservatives , the lesson the conservatives, the lesson here is and you know , i've here is and you know, i've fought and won a number of both council and lost council elections and lost a parliamentary election , but they parliamentary election, but they were they weaponized were clever, they weaponized ulez and they made it a referendum on that. and you know, labour needs to just take a take a period of reflection on what was otherwise a great night. >> yeah. alice, do you think that there's a risk here that the labour party has been enjoying their 20 point poll leads and you remember the leads and if you remember the sheffield in 1992 where sheffield rally in 1992 where where neil kinnock stood up and

you weren't forced. we were all right. we were all right. and he went on to lose. >> it's not that tom sorry. >> it's not that tom sorry. >> alex yeah, i mean, i think that the lesson from these byelection goes both ways. i think. i think you're absolutely right people in uxbridge right that people in uxbridge clearly of clearly voted on the basis of their pockets. right they were worried going to worried that ulez was going to make think that make them poorer. i think that same for the same applies for when the conservatives country. conservatives go to the country. for a general election. people are going to be thinking, am i poorer as a result of the poorer now as a result of the actions government? and actions of this government? and the answer to that the only possible answer to that question is yes. >> yeah, well, unless there's a massive in economic massive upswing in economic growth, inflation is down, inflation is down to 2. >> solid tories here on the centre of the table. >> i don't know how i will vote and i certainly won't be telling our viewers and listeners all you. >> kevin i think the interesting thing member right there are there there are there are, there are conservative staff owners i have spoken not be voting spoken to who will not be voting conservative next conservative at the next election, people election, mainly younger people because exercised by because they're so exercised by the issue of housing. and so irritated how rishi sunak has irritated by how rishi sunak has behaved over over being becoming

the nimby party. and i think there are a lot of people who are genuinely angry, probably not enough to swing seats, but it interesting amongst it is interesting amongst politically people politically engaged young people how now support the conservatives. >> tom spoken to the three >> tom has spoken to the three remaining young conservatives. i think there's an important point. >> t- point. >> talking about >> you were talking about westminster. are these are westminster. these are these are londoners, and londoners, right? and the conservative uxbridge conservative party, uxbridge aside, completely abandoned aside, has completely abandoned london. mayoral contest london. the joke mayoral contest . you know, the whole levelling up agenda is an explicitly anti london campaign running for footage . so, i mean, why should footage. so, i mean, why should any londoner, young or old, vote? >> it's interesting to think that it wasn't that long ago that it wasn't that long ago that a man named boris johnson actually won the city. but but i suppose election won in suppose the election is won in the of the country as well. the rest of the country as well. and the interesting thing about last night is that london last night is that the london seat took and the seat the tories took and the seat the tories took and the seat down in somerset seat down in down in somerset and the seat up in north yorkshire were lost the yorkshire were lost by the conservatives. this is, if anything, rishi sunak southeastern strategy. >> yeah. and he i mean the results in, in the south—west

and in yorkshire were really historic. the sizes of the swings were just off the scale and you know, whatever one's own politics, i think they didn't they're the referendum was how do you think the last 13 years have been and how you're feeling? and rishi has got huge work to do. >> yeah. and you know, i think i mean , people can tell us at home mean, people can tell us at home what they think, but if people vote conservative, it's probably because labour will because they think labour will because they think labour will be worse rather than they have some massive enthusiasm for rishi sunak, although you could say that the same applies to keir starmer, of course. >> yeah. and i wonder if within uxbndge >> yeah. and i wonder if within uxbridge there was an almost unique element of the conservatives having a message , conservatives having a message, a simple message to take to the public, which they didn't have in the other seats they don't have. is sort of big have. what is the sort of big optimistic vision from the conservative? there's nothing there. there's nothing that they're people apart they're offering people apart from i suppose from stability. and i suppose alice, stability, stability. 20 points behind in the polls is

being that's that's that's what rishi sunak wants to offer . rishi sunak wants to offer. >> i mean i think you could say the same about labour, though. what's keir starmer's big exciting vision apart from not being the conservatives and frankly he seems doing as frankly he seems to be doing as much he can to alienate kind much as he can to alienate kind of labour voters much as he can to alienate kind of saying labour voters much as he can to alienate kind of saying lalgoingyters much as he can to alienate kind of saying lalgoing to �*s much as he can to alienate kind of saying lalgoing to keep with saying he's going to keep basically conservative politics policies the two child policies like the two child benefit in he's benefit cap. in fact, he's looking more the looking more like the conservatives and the conservatives and the conservatives offering a conservatives are offering a great vision. >> got time, alice. >> we haven't got time, alice. >> we haven't got time, alice. >> scrapped all of their >> they've scrapped all of their green stuff too, or at least watered it down with the 28, delayed it. >> i mean, said this, >> well, i mean, i've said this, i've said this before, but rachel is offering more rachel reeves is offering more supply sort of in supply side reform in sort of in the the, i know, idea the in the, i don't know, idea of liz truss than the conservatives are. they want to scrap of regulations on scrap the sort of regulations on building things, whereas the tories, in tories, what are they doing in terms scrapping regulations terms of scrapping regulations anyway, let's go across now to oh let's not cross across to oh no, let's not cross across to our let's, let's stick to some views. let's stick with this because people have been writing in a lot about our big question of the day, which is, is 25 too

young to be a member of parliament? of course , keir parliament? of course, keir mather, the namesake of the party, leader of the labour party, one in in north yorkshire . and bernie has written in to say in their wisdom , the ancient say in their wisdom, the ancient greeks would not allow anyone under 30 to hold senior office in government under that age. they were considered inexperienced. well, is that true ? where did where did that true? where did where did that get the and also not all the ancient greeks, i suppose because it was only the they only lived till about 32, i think in the us they do have age limits on various 25 for the for the house and 35 for the senate. >> i don't think people would necessarily say that that's done much for their democracy. >> anything, it's too old, right? >> that's i think maybe i'm a little bit a little bit old fashioned with my view, perhaps because 25, by and because i do think 25, by and large, don't think there large, i don't think there should rule. but i think as should be a rule. but i think as a 25 year there is a 25 year old, there is absolutely no way i would think i would fit for office in the i would be fit for office in the house commons. do i know house of commons. what do i know at okay. what about what at 20? okay. what about what about this chap has had a

totally political career. he hasn't proper by emily. >> what about gladstone, who entered the of entered parliament at the age of 22? kennedy, aged 23. 22? charlie kennedy, aged 23. churchill, and tony churchill, balfour and tony benn, 25. david steel the benn, aged 25. david steel the age of 26. thatcher first stood at the age of 25, and indeed, pitt, the younger, got elected aged 21, became prime minister aged 21, became prime minister aged 24. >> okay . well, that was that was >> okay. well, that was that was quite a good speech to give it. i can't really say the list, just a list. i just think 25 year olds are too young. well i know what i think. >> prejudice. i think some of the older mps are just so , so the older mps are just so, so pooh the older mps are just so, so poor, so bad at speaking and can't sort of get their point across . some of them are across. some of them are blathering idiots quite frankly. yes. >> but it's all well and good being having the gift of the gab and being able to speak well. but have to have something but you have to have something of to say. of substance to say. >> people need they >> but young people need they need voices in parliament need more voices in parliament because as alice said earlier, you housing, you you know, access to housing, you know, the ability to get on is harder has been for harder than it has been for generations . and i think 25 a generations. and i think 25 a doctor could be fiddling around in an operating theatre, saving

your life, flying you to brussels, for example . and so brussels, for example. and so they're old enough to sit on the green bench. >> yeah, maybe i'm wrong. >> yeah, maybe i'm wrong. >> there's another point about this particular candidate who's he's a labour many he's a labour moderate. many of the to be kind the younger mps tend to be kind of and this chap of extremists and this chap isn't. so i think, you isn't. yeah. so i think, you know, he's not, he's not a socialist flag waving corbyn supporter. >> but let's, let's cross now to olivia utley, who is at college green, just outside parliament for us. and olivia, we're expecting, i believe, a political leader to be speaking in a few moments time. >> we are we're expecting a speech from keir starmer, who i think we can expect to sound pretty victorious over in selby and rightly so. really. i mean, the swing from the conservatives to labour in that north yorkshire seat was 24 points. now bear in mind that labour only needs a 12 point swing across the country to win an overall majority in a general election and only a seven point swing to win the largest party

in a general election. so it's a pretty good day for keir starmer if that result was replicated across the country. of course, we can't extrapolate by—election victories like this, but if we could, if we're being theoretical about it, then labour would win a bigger landslide than tony blair and the tories would be reduced to under 30 seats. now of course , under 30 seats. now of course, it wasn't all plain sailing for keir starmer. they were expecting to win uxbridge labour and they lost it only, only by a pip and they lost it only, only by a pip squeak, it's true. but that's still pretty bad news. essentially what happened in uxbndge essentially what happened in uxbridge was the people, the simplest explanation, which we're pretty sure is the right one, is the people of uxbridge, which is outer london borough, are fed up with the idea of ulez. don't like the idea ulez. they don't like the idea of ulez expanding inner of ulez expanding from inner london outer london. and this london to outer london. and this was a vote against sadiq khan and his policies. the problem , and his policies. the problem, though, for labour, there could be a bit more of an existential problem for labour there in that theoretically, when you poll people in britain about what

they think of green policies, they think of green policies, they are pro more green policies. they're pro the net zero they're pro zero agenda, they're pro measures to cut down on vehicle emissions . measures to cut down on vehicle emissions. but as the measures to cut down on vehicle emissions . but as the uxbridge emissions. but as the uxbridge byelection seems to have proved, when push comes to shove and they're actually forced to choose between a policy that's good for an environment and a policy that's good for their own wallets in the middle of a cost of living crisis, they are more concerned, understandably , concerned, understandably, perhaps, their own wallets perhaps, about their own wallets right now. is that going to be a problem for keir starmers labouh problem for keir starmers labour, which remember one of keir starmer's five big priorities that keeps talking priorities that he keeps talking about a green about is creating a big green economy. well, in theory, that appeals to people, but in practise is that quite so true? the other potential issue for keir starmer is that it sounds like quite a lot of tactical voting went on in those two by elections in selby , where labour elections in selby, where labour won so convincingly managing to overturn that 20,000 tory majority . see, the lib dems came majority. see, the lib dems came in last place, a sort of 2 or 3%

of the vote right behind all of the smaller parties . and in the smaller parties. and in somerton, where the lib dems won so decisively, a 29 point swing over to the lib dems, labour came in pretty much last place . came in pretty much last place. now that implies that perhaps what was going on was that there were people the activists on the ground in each of those constituency constituencies were persuading people to vote anything but tory well, persuading people to vote anything but tory well , that's anything but tory well, that's doable in a by—election when you've only got a small number of people to deal with and you can be pretty organised about it. but in a general election we might see voting work in might not see voting work in that which could a bit that way, which could be a bit of a problem for keir starmer if he is relying on tactical voting, there could be some issues to the issues going forward to the general . hear from general election. hear more from me i'm sure. but me a bit later, i'm sure. but back to pippa, the back to pippa, mark in the studio . studio. >> olivia, thank you very much indeed and welcome to the live desk here on gb news. and we can tell you in the next few minutes, sir keir starmer will

be making a speech after a historic night for his party in nonh historic night for his party in north yorkshire. i think we can bnng north yorkshire. i think we can bring you the scene now at this constituency of selby and ainsty, which will be written into labour's history books after what was a historic win for them . that is the scene. for them. that is the scene. thatis for them. that is the scene. that is the dais where we're expecting the labour leader. yes, labour overturned a majority of more than 20,000 and to win and add, the new mp is called another keir keir mather i >> -- >> he's just lam >> he's just 25 years old and he will become the youngest mp in the house of commons. he has now been nicknamed, as you might expect, the baby of the house and he's already indicated covid what he wants to do for his constituency, announcing that there will be financial support centres being set up in his constituency. >> so he's hitting the ground running but just to reiterate the underlying figures on this,

it's a 23.7% swing to labour . it's a 23.7% swing to labour. the biggest the party has had since 1945. and that landslide victory they had after the second world war so close here. sir keir starmer will be making much of that as of course the psephologists, the number crunchers of elections are trying to interpret what all these byelection results mean for a general election. >> yes , and i think if it was their own constituency and working out vhether their own constituency and working out \i think if it was >> yes, and i think if it was translated into a general election or certain early that uxbndge election or certain early that uxbridge and ruislip result could conservatives would still be the biggest party but not have an overall majority. and that would mean a hung parliament. so when we do see all these results, it's very interested to see how that would look like in the general election next year . and it's election next year. and it's still not clear that labour would have that majority because as we know, it wasn't such a good night for labour in boris johnson's old constituency of

uxbndge johnson's old constituency of uxbridge and ruislip . uxbridge and ruislip. conservatives there won by 495 votes, which was all to do with that controversial issue of ulez. >> but let's just reflect in the bigger picture . sirjohn curtis. bigger picture. sir john curtis. the election guru, if you like, has basically asserted the tories are in deep trouble after looking at all the figures, he's noted that it's a 21% swing to labour or to the opposition parties away from the tories at close to the 19% they've been in the opinion polls. so rishi sunak has a lot to do. the prime minister, however, saying the general election is not a done deal general election is not a done deal, saying he will double down on existing policies. he's said to be in number 10 today working, but of course all the mps away from westminster in parliament because we are into a parliament because we are into a parliament recess. so he may well bought himself some well have bought himself some time with his backbenchers who clearly looking at these clearly will be looking at these results and perhaps looking at their own constituency and working out whether

>> yes, and i think if it was of shortly is sir keir starmer of course, they are both named keir because of sir keir hardie. yeah and just reflect on somerton and frome down in the west country. >> a tory majority again overturned there