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royal family deserve all they get.7 we'll royal family deserve all they get? we'll be debating that and how much has your rent gone up by? get in touch because over the past four years, rents have increased by 33, and that's outside of london. it's absolutely mad . let me know if absolutely mad. let me know if yours has gone up, too. and did yours has gone up, too. and did you know that teenagers main source of news is now tiktok? the video sharing social media platform is owned by the chinese. should we be alarmed? all of that to come tonight on dewbs& co. with me, emily carver. but first, let's get the latest news with rory . latest news with rory. >> thank you very much, emily. well, despite a double by—election loss for the conservatives, the prime minister says a victory in uxbndge minister says a victory in uxbridge and south ruislip shows the next general election is not a done deal. labour won. selby and ainsty whilst the liberal democrats took somerton and frome both are overturning majorities of about 20,000. mr
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sunak says the defeats were far from favourable , but he plans to from favourable, but he plans to double down and deliver for the people. >> westminster has been acting like the next elections, a done deal like the next elections, a done deal. the labour party has been acting like it's a done deal. the people of uxbridge just told all them that it's all of them that it's not mid—term by. elections are rarely easy for incumbent governments. these are no different . and look, the reality different. and look, the reality is circumstances of these is the circumstances of these byelections are far from favourable . all a reminder favourable. all it's a reminder to politicians that we need to focus matters to people focus on what matters to people and be distracted by what's and not be distracted by what's going westminster. going on in westminster. >> but labour leader sir keir starmer says people want to see change. you've voted for change. >> you put your trust in the labour party and we hear you. we hear that cry for change away from the chaos, away from those rising bills, the crumbling pubuc rising bills, the crumbling public services, a cry for change and we will deliver. we will deliver through keir mather here and we'll deliver with the next labour government and the
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leader of the liberal democrats, sir ed davey , says the support sir ed davey, says the support for his party has strengthened. >> previously i've been talking about the blue wall in places like hertfordshire, oxfordshire , cambridgeshire, buckinghamshire, bedfordshire, surrey and sussex, all those true blue heartlands , if you true blue heartlands, if you like, the home counties where it's liberal democrats it's now the liberal democrats really challenging the conservatives. have conservatives. now we have a second in the west country second front in the west country , heartlands, if , our traditional heartlands, if you liberal you like, the liberal traditional that traditional heartlands. that means a force to be means that we are a force to be reckoned with in the next general election. well another news this evening. >> a trial date has been set for former us president donald trump in his classified files case. according to court documents, it will take place on the 20th of may next year. the criminal trial will come less than six months ahead of the november 2024 us presidential election. trump is the current front runner for the republican nomination in the . race for us,
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nomination in the. race for us, johnson will hand over messages from his own mobile phone to the covid 19 inquiry tree. it's after technical experts managed to recover them. the former prime minister was initially told to stop using the phone in 2021 after his number was leaked online. he then reportedly forgot the passcode, but a spokesman says boris johnson is pleased the messages have been recovered . and legendary recovered. and legendary american jazz singer tony bennett has died at the age of 96. he released more than 70 albums over his seven decade career and was inducted into the grammy hall of fame in 1994. he sold millions of records around the world, winning 20 grammy awards . he the world, winning 20 grammy awards. he was diagnosed with alzheimer's disease in 2016 and died in his hometown of . new died in his hometown of. new york around 3000 asylum seekers
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will be housed in non—hotel sites by the autumn. the alternative locations include the bibby stockholm barge in dorset and former military sites in essex and lincolnshire . the in essex and lincolnshire. the home office denies that the use of barges or so—called floating prisons and says the people on board would be free to come and go as they wish. it's part of the government's plan to reduce the government's plan to reduce the use of hotels and housing migrants, which costs taxpayers £6 million a day. migrants, which costs taxpayers £6 million a day . strikes that £6 million a day. strikes that were set for next week on the london underground have been called off. the union say progress has been made in talks on pensions and working conditions, although negotiating sessions are still ongoing with acas as they attempt to come to a resolution. london's mayor sadiq khan has thanked the rmt aslef and unite union, who worked closely with transport for london. ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy has sacked his country's ambassador to the uk. vadym poroshenko was
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reportedly dismissed after publicly criticising the president's response to a row over gratitude for british military aid earlier this month. defence secretary ben wallace said the uk and us were not amazon when it came to kyivs requests for weapons and military equipment. kyiv gave no official reason for the dismissal . official reason for the dismissal. tv online dab+ radio and on tunein. this is gb news. now go back to . now go back to. emily >> welcome to dewbs& co with me, emily carver. so joining me this evening until seven is my wonderful panel communicate officer at the institute of economic affairs, reem ibrahim . economic affairs, reem ibrahim. and we have writer, broadcaster and firefighter paul embry. thank you very much indeed for joining me on the panel this evening. now, you can get in
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touch at home with us about all of topics we're going to be of the topics we're going to be discussing, gb views at gbnews.com of gbnews.com or on twitter, of course, at gb news. so let's get stuck into our first topic of the evening . now, a few of the evening. now, a lucky few of us went out to vote yesterday. what it always is to what a treat. it always is to exercise our democracy. the constituencies of uxbridge and ruislip, selby and ainsty and somerton and frome were up for grabs after a number of mps quit in solidarity with boris johnson. so labour turned around a 20,000 majority to win selby . a 20,000 majority to win selby. the lib dems got 55% of the vote in frome, but the tories hung on in frome, but the tories hung on in uxbridge due to what i think the visceral hatred of sadiq khan's ulez charges. so so my question to you is should the tories take stock , think about tories take stock, think about this result, think about what it shows about what people want and scrap their own anti motorist, anti car green agenda . so what anti car green agenda. so what do we think? let's start with you reen. what do you think now
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you reen. what do you think now you have been quite an active well you live in uxbridge and ruislip . ruislip. >> i live in uxbridge and south ruislip and the mirror actually came out with an article well, two they did. two articles. they did. >> actually have it >> i think we actually have it to show to our viewers. i don't know if it will appear some know if it will appear at some point, do. yes, go on. point, but we do. yes, go on. >> so the these two articles effectively about my views on the they called a top the nhs and they called me a top tory, i'm most certainly tory, which i'm most certainly not, and they claimed that my views the nhs would mean that views on the nhs would mean that hillingdon the hillingdon hospital, the hospital in, hospital that i was born in, actually is actually going to be at risk as a result of the conservatives winning that seat. now this is course now this is of course a completely ludicrous claim . completely ludicrous claim. first all, i don't hold any first of all, i don't hold any position the local position in the local conservative association yet. well, well , maybe. i also 20 and well, well, maybe. i also 20 and i just have started full time in westminster. i have no power to change national health policy. so i did find it slightly strange, but it does show how desperate they really were in order to try and claim back some of those votes. and yeah, it was
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absolutely , absolutely. absolutely, absolutely. >> i was just going to read it. it says, yes, exclusive uxbridge by—election in chaos. by—election campaign in chaos. as tory says, nhs should be abolished. reem ibrahim has repeatedly attacked the health service, which she described as a mistake. so there you go. there was the attempt by the mirror to, well, slander reem not just the mirror, but danny beale also included it in his campaign video. well, there you go. very interesting indeed, paul go. very interesting indeed, paul. my point to my question paul. to my point to my question that i'm posing this evening about how the result in uxbridge now the conservative are deeply unpopular at the moment among large swathes of the electorate for obvious reasons that we've spoken about many times. but this result in uxbridge does show that ulez is a deeply unpopular policy. does that also show that we're not willing to accept green policies if they cost too us much and the conservatives and labour should rethink? >> i think that's exactly what it shows. and i think there is a danger from and i say this as somebody on the labour side that
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we trigger this, what some people have called this green lash, which is a real hostile reaction to the whole kind of race towards net zero, potentially the cliff edge scenario . and this is, by the scenario. and this is, by the way , an argument that's been way, an argument that's been used even by people in the trade union movement, the gmb union unite the union, which represent people in the energy industry who are worried about this. as i say, this race to net zero and think that it could result in massive job losses and the erosion of , massive job losses and the erosion of, you massive job losses and the erosion of , you know, stable erosion of, you know, stable industries where people are employed, many thousands of their members are employed and actually just electorally is really unpopular. i guess what i would say is, look, we're all in favour of a green environment , favour of a green environment, but if you're to going do if you're going to penalise motorists in this way, if you're going to try and force people out of their cars, then you've got to have a public transport system worthy of the name and
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the reality is, at the moment, we don't. if you look at the railway system , for example, railway system, for example, it's falling apart. our railway system , since privatisation is system, since privatisation is completely unreliable and it's absolutely true and the evidence is absolutely not true. >> it's absolutely it's not privatised . privatised. >> absolutely true that that privatisation, even under privatisation, even under privatisation , will let you come privatisation, will let you come back after privatisation mean the private rail companies have been hugely subsidised by government and by the taxpayer. and actually the system is still unreliable. so it is still fragmented and it's still dirty and it is still expensive. so what we need to do, one of the one of the things we need to do is renationalise the railways, invest properly in the railway system, very popular policy, and then won't need then we won't need cars. >> that policy? >> is that your policy? >> is that your policy? >> and we invest properly and >> and if we invest properly and actually make it a proper effective service and a proper integrated that people integrated system that people and a cheap system people and a cheap system that people can not need to can use, then we may not need to force people into cars and force people into their cars and we need to levy these sorts. >> but the thing is, don't
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>> but the thing is, i don't think holistic i don't think be a holistic i don't think be a holistic i don't think people are being forced into their cars. i think they quite like driving them. i mean, it you freedom to stop it gives you the freedom to stop when like to change when you like to change direction, change destination, to traffic, carry to sit in traffic, to carry hours. great in city hours. it's not great in city centres, course it's not and centres, of course it's not and it's not great in the south—east in particular, i'm sure across most of country there are most of the country there are many jam, but i do many a traffic jam, but i do think something wrong, think there's something wrong, you about being you know, freeing about being able into your car for able to get into your car for reem. there are lots of green reem. so there are lots of green policies cost people policies that will cost people well. so got gas boilers well. so we've got gas boilers as gas boilers should we as new gas boilers should we have a ban on those at currently? i believe is currently? i believe there is one scheduled for 2025, which is very soon indeed. there's also the ban on new diesel and petrol cars being sold in the uk from 2030. d0 cars being sold in the uk from 2030. do you think this ulez result here, which is what it is in uxbridge, shows that perhaps those kind of policies need to be rethought? oh, absolutely . be rethought? oh, absolutely. >> at the moment we've got the green energy levy, which effectively that the effectively means that the government increasing government are increasing artificially the prices of energy then also energy bills and then also subsidising it with the energy
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price guarantee. i mean, some of these policies do feel price guarantee. i mean, some of these ludicrous do feel price guarantee. i mean, some of these ludicrous indeed, feel price guarantee. i mean, some of these ludicrous indeed, when quite ludicrous indeed, when we're thinking about why environmental policies aren't actually popular with the sort of green conservative vote of core green conservative vote . oh, really? it's as a result of fact that these policies of the fact that these policies are making poorer. ulez is are making them poorer. ulez is are making them poorer. ulez is a £12.50 effectively extra tax on your ability to drive your car in that zone. uxbridge and south ruislip was going then south ruislip was going to then be that that was going to be that area that was going to be that area that was going to be to expanded to be expanded to it's expanded to the the m25. of course, the rest of the m25. of course, it's unpopular. not just it's unpopular. we're not just thinking the poor and thinking about the poor and the vulnerable, those vulnerable, but actually those that bound, those that that are car bound, those that are that can't that are disabled, that can't that have to drive to get places. are disabled, that can't that havand drive to get places. are disabled, that can't that havand it's'e to get places. are disabled, that can't that havand it's worth, at places. are disabled, that can't that havand it's worth, of places. are disabled, that can't that havand it's worth, of course,s. >> and it's worth, of course, noting khan would say noting that sadiq khan would say that is a necessary measure that this is a necessary measure in order to cut back on pollution and to save lives and to stop the rates of asthma, for example , among children. that is example, among children. that is his justification for this policy . others, of course, have policy. others, of course, have pointed out that it may well be a money grabbing scheme, but i believe we have a image to show which shows us that this is not just a london issue. this ulez
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scheme across the country there are various low emission schemes , as you can see from everywhere, from , um, everywhere, from, um, southampton to aberdeen. we have some kind of scheme in order to which charges essentially charges drivers for polluting. so this is widespread across the united kingdom. now now, of course, there the conservatives only managed to cling on to this constituency by the skin of their teeth. i think it was by about 500 votes. so it wasn't just, you know, a roaring win, but labour were very much wanting to get this one. do you think that this actually comes down to more than just ulez or is this just the way they're going to have to? or is this just in this instance? if you know what i mean? >> i think this result in uxbndge >> i think this result in uxbridge clearly about ulez. uxbridge was clearly about ulez. and i think the proof of that is that the tory victor made that point himself in all of his in all of his kind of post election post announcement interviews . he
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post announcement interviews. he made it very clear that this was a kickback from the constituency against sadiq khan. the interesting thing about that, by the way, is i suspect that people conservative central people in conservative central office were not best pleased about that because, of course, what they would have liked. i think, is for the tory candidate , tuckwell, to have come out and said, yes, this is an endorsement of rishi you endorsement of rishi sunak. you know, this is clearly know, this this is clearly showing the election is the showing that the election is the next election is far from done. rishi is making inroads in terms of the recent inflation announcement with inflation going down and the migration bill going through and instead all these all these all of these all of these interviews were specifically about . so that really was about ulez. so that really was a very good point. paul that was manna from heaven for labour because allowed them to say, because it allowed them to say, well, course, you know, this well, of course, you know, this is not representative of a national picture this about national picture. this is about ulez. know what the tory ulez. and you know what the tory candidate himself has said that i think that was a well, it's a by—election, i think that was a well, it's a by-they ion, i think that was a well, it's a by-they of|, i think that was a well, it's a by-they of course, they're going >> they of course, they're going to issues. and to campaign on local issues. and i'm i think the will i'm sorry, i think the hq will be about the fact be pretty happy about the fact that won the seat in the
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that they won the seat in the first of course. and that first place, of course. and that actually steve very actually steve ran a very effective campaign because he was to then sort was actually able to then sort of about local that of talk about local issues that were important residents. he were important to residents. he was hillingdon hospital, was born in hillingdon hospital, for doesn't for example, but it doesn't reflect sunak. reflect on rishi sunak. >> i that was paul's >> i think that was paul's point, but it's quite interesting because the labour deputy angela rayner, interesting because the labour deplalways angela rayner, interesting because the labour deplalways hasingela rayner, interesting because the labour deplalways has agela rayner, interesting because the labour deplalways has a lot) rayner, interesting because the labour deplalways has a lot to ayner, interesting because the labour deplalways has a lot to say, r, interesting because the labour deplalways has a lot to say, she who always has a lot to say, she even admitted that the ulez policy the policy cost her party the by—election. said by—election. she said there needs be rethink and she needs to be a rethink and she said it is unaffordable for many londoners and penalises them without more of a scrappage scheme. ryan would you support this policy around the country if there were more scrappage schemes the taxpayer ? schemes funded by the taxpayer? >> i would absolutely support scrapping ulez it wouldn't necessarily by the necessarily be funded by the taxpayer. i want is taxpayer. what i want is actually policies to actually these policies to be rolled emily. rolled back. emily. >> well, you go. and you. >> well, there you go. and you. >> well, there you go. and you. >> scrappage i >> more scrappage schemes. i don't cars . i we're small don't like cars. i we're a small island . i don't think we're an island. i don't think we're an island. i don't think we're an island. that's actually made for huge numbers, millions of cars on our roads. i would much rather see a society where we had public transport as a
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viable, realistic, clean , safe viable, realistic, clean, safe and cheap alternate . but the and cheap alternate. but the truth is we don't have that alternative at the moment . and alternative at the moment. and therefore, i think to penalise people through using their cars when for many of them it's the only medium of transport that they've got is probably unfair. so i would be in favour of scrapping it, but then investing properly in public services renationalise the railways, have a public bus system, more a good public bus system, more taxpayer money being spent out of their cars. how wonderful you know solution to all of your know the solution to all of your problems seems to be throwing more taxpayer money at everything. >> okay, well, this country. >> okay, well, this country. >> let's let's look at the >> well, let's let's look at the privatisations taken privatisations that have taken place large, have place by and large, which have been admittedly disaster. been an admittedly disaster. let's water. what are been an admittedly disaster. let' water water. what are been an admittedly disaster. let' water companies/hat are been an admittedly disaster. let' water companies doing'e been an admittedly disaster. let' water companies doing apart the water companies doing apart from down the service, from running down the service, polluting rivers created an polluting our rivers created an enormous amount of and enormous amount of defects and leaks actually making a huge leaks and actually making a huge amount of profit into the. >> you're absolutely right that thames water, for example, a government created monopoly, has not acted effectively. not actually acted effectively. they've some terrible they've done some terrible things, for example, with with polluting, with sewage and that kind but actually,
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polluting, with sewage and that kind that but actually, polluting, with sewage and that kind that wasiut actually, polluting, with sewage and that kind that was at actually, polluting, with sewage and that kind that was a government again, that was a government created monopoly. if government were to stay of water were to stay out of water companies, we're actually stay out of wales, for example. let's talk transport. is talk about transport. this is the you're trying to the point that you're trying to make the government make here. the government still pick private companies are pick which private companies are actually getting those contracts for . the government for those legs. the government chose, example, avanti chose, for example, that avanti west coast the leg west coast would get the leg between and manchester. between london and manchester. now, reason why these now, the reason why these companies effective companies aren't effective is because basic principles of because the basic principles of the competition and the market competition and failure do not happen. these companies can't fail because the government pick them. >> truth is >> well, look, the truth is there's probably no area . tell there's probably no area. tell me if i'm wrong. there's probably no area of the economy or our public infrastructure that not privatise. that you would not privatise. true false ? true or false? >> no, area of the public >> no, no area of the public sector where, of course, there i mean, look at the military education, for example. i believe friedman's believe milton friedman's educational system . educational voucher system. >> know, the logic of >> so, you know, the logic of the position of saying that we should water privatise should have water privatise eyes, essential eyes, which is an essential pubuc eyes, which is an essential public good. and clearly the pubucis public good. and clearly the public is always going to need water. can't function public is always going to need water. it. can't function public is always going to need water. it. and:an't function public is always going to need water. it. and similar|ction public is always going to need water. it. and similar wilhi public is always going to need water. it. and similar with the without it. and similar with the railway system. why
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>> but we have privatised supermarkets . supermarkets. >> the principles that you would apply say actually apply to say actually privatisation there drives up efficiency, drives up productivity . what logic then productivity. what logic then says you , well, actually we says to you, well, actually we shouldn't apply it to the military or the force. military or to the police force. why why not have the police why not? why not have the police water, water sponsored, sponsored by shell or enron water is one of those public goods, public services, whatever you want to call it. >> that is probably there is the strongest argument for it to be publicly owned. >> and what. right. >> and what. right. >> but energy , for example, >> but energy, for example, which was what jeremy corbyn wanted and wanted to nationalise and keir starmer nationalise starmer wanted to nationalise until recently, three until very recently, three knives off competition. so we need competition in our energy system. and i would argue a little more competition probably in our health service wouldn't go amiss. but let's have a look at what people at home are saying, we have saying, because we could have the nationalisation versus privatisation the nationalisation versus privatistwhat you at home forever. what would you at home privatise? what would you nationalise me anyway? nationalise? let me know anyway? should nationalise housing? should we nationalise housing? just all housing just have all housing nationalised, all social housing
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on the result in uxbridge and what this means for green policies? alan says, i never thought i would thank sadiq khan for anything, but i do. for the uxbndge for anything, but i do. for the uxbridge byelection result. rishi sunak is living in cuckoo land. he believes was land. if he believes this was anything hollow victory , anything but a hollow victory, darren says if it's about pollution, then ban the vehicles. the charges are tax and money and another and money grab and another barely disguised attack on the freedom of movement . well, yes, freedom of movement. well, yes, i do think so, too . and john, i do think so, too. and john, just finally, the people have spoken. time for khan and ulez to go. why did those gullible londoners vote him ? they let londoners vote for him? they let the out of the bag for the cat out of the bag for a potential national ulez disaster. well, a lot of strong feeling. please do keep getting in touch with me on that. and everything else we're going to be discussing . coming up, should be discussing. coming up, should the royal be tightening the royal family be tightening their belts? rest of us are their belts? the rest of us are a 45% increase in the royal grant would suggest otherwise
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radio. >> welcome back to dewbs& co with me, emily carver, keeping me company until 7:00 is communications officer at the institute of economic affairs. reem ibrahim and writer broadcaster and firefighter paul embry. now i am loving the debate in my inbox that is coming through, rob, says. paul embry . for prime minister, i embry. for prime minister, i would vote labour if he was in charge. but then ben has come on, he says. i have been listening to paul, who says he really does not like cars. maybe he would like the country to go back to the horse and cart. yes, you are starting to sound like a bit an eco maniac. paul with bit of an eco maniac. paul with all this anti—car nonsense. michael says, i find the idea of scrapping all cars ridiculous . scrapping all cars ridiculous. try living here in dorset without a car. buses are rarer than hen's teeth and non—existent on sundays . ah, but non—existent on sundays. ah, but in paul embry's britain there would be buses, you know , just would be buses, you know, just picking up. just taking you picking you up. just taking you over and maybe picking you up, taking you wherever you like to go at any hour. it'd be fantastic. all paid for by by
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the taxpayer. >> how much it's going to cost the government to actually buy up transport anyway? >> there was we are going to be getting the royal family getting on to the royal family in moment. but i want in just one moment. but i want to know what my panel think about this 25 year old labour mp that just his seat in that has just won his seat in selby ainsty because i was selby and ainsty because i was having debate earlier with having this debate earlier with tom i was of the tom harwood and i was of the view that 25 is absolutely far too young. but reem, you are 20 years old, you've achieved quite a lot by that age. you are here on my panel, which must be the career highlight. so, so far. on my panel, which must be the career highlight. so, so far . so career highlight. so, so far. so what do you think? 25 too young. >> oh, i don't think it is. and again, maybe i am just being biased here, but i think that as a 25 year old who has studied at oxford, i believe he did study at oxford, he you know, he's very well educated. clearly very well educated. he clearly understands, sort of understands, you know, sort of how to win an election. he's done very well for himself. and now despite him, i think my only sort of accusation against him would be that he's a would probably be that he's a labour mp rather than anything else. i think else. but no, i think i think his age is perfectly fine and
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there are many 40 year olds that probably him probably know less than him well, you say, oh, he's very well, is you say, oh, he's very well, is you say, oh, he's very well educated. >> yes, he is very well >> yes, yes, he is very well educated. he went to oxford university, do we have university, but paul, do we have too many of these that too many of these types that go and he did and study? i think he did history in politics or something like this at oxford. he then went into the he and worked went into the he went and worked for western meeting as a parliamentary researcher. he's the health secretary. he the shadow health secretary. he did bit of work with a public did a bit of work with a public affairs agency, the as well. affairs agency, the cbi as well. he's done, you know, the sort of usual career politician type jobs. is that what we want in our in the house of commons? is that what we need more of? and does his age bother you ? does his age bother you? >> a few questions. >> a few questions. >> age does bother me, actually. >> age does bother me, actually. >> i think that we and it concerns me that as a society, we've got this tendency, these days to kind of build believe that young people are imbued with, you know, infinite wisdom and they can teach the rest of us about life and everything else. and in doing so, we often
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kind of reject people with more , more experience, people who have raised families, people who have raised families, people who have paid mortgages , people who have paid mortgages, people who may have been unemployed, people who have had kids and whatever. and say, no, actually, those and we say, no, actually, those people who. gammon people people who. gammon those people have nothing to teach us. have got nothing to teach us. and thank god, know, most of and thank god, you know, most of them, most of them will be dying off soon. you certainly that off soon. you certainly saw that in debate. that in the brexit debate. that was the the of debate the tenor of the of the debate in the brexit debate. so you know, and the is that know, and the truth is that often young people have not got the experience that older the life experience that older people does people have got. so it does slightly me that we do slightly concern me that we do kind of attribute great kind of attribute these great powers of wisdom to them. i do think have many people think we have too many people from of conveyor belt from that kind of conveyor belt of, you know, oxford graduate work for a think tank or a charity or parliamentary researcher or public relations . researcher or public relations. and then very quickly, they're into their into parliament, because, again, if you purport to represent people from ordinary backgrounds and you've never experienced life in an ordinary background , then you're ordinary background, then you're probably not the person sort of best placed to do it. labour,
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particularly has a problem with this when you think of this because when you think of labour's history and its links to the trade union movement and the of mps who once upon the number of mps who once upon a had come up through the a time had come up through the trade union movement, had done ordinary you know, had ordinary jobs, you know, had worked mines and shipyards worked in mines and shipyards and stuff being and stuff like being a firefighter, a firefighter firefighter, being a firefighter , is they won't have , which is why they won't have me but but you think of people me. but but you think of people who had come from those backgrounds had become who had come from those backgr(mps; had become who had come from those backgr(mps . had become who had come from those backgr(mps . labouri become who had come from those backgr(mps . labour has:ome who had come from those backgr(mps . labour has gote who had come from those backgr(mps . labour has got far labour mps. labour has got far too people who have come too many people who have come from that from the type of background that this and you know, this new guy. and you know, i genuinely wish well, but you genuinely wish him well, but you know, is serious about know, if labour is serious about broadening its appeal and about reconnecting wall areas, reconnecting red wall areas, then frankly , having a phalanx then frankly, having a phalanx of people , oxbridge graduates of people, oxbridge graduates who have worked in public relations and worked for shadow cabinet ministers not the way cabinet ministers is not the way to go. >> yeah, reme was a was is the veteran minister, veterans minister johnny mercer were his remarks little bit harsh? remarks a little bit harsh? >> said he looked like >> he said he looked like something well, he compared him to . now you to an in—betweener. now if you don't inbetweeners, don't know the inbetweeners, it's style show it's a silly sitcom style show about geeky teenagers who
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about four geeky teenagers who try to, you know, find girls and things and they always get into a mess. >> well, actually, which the school where the inbetweeners was filmed. >> oh, wasfilmed. >> fun fact. oh, did you? yeah, i well. mansbridge and i did. well. mansbridge and ruislip. in uxbridge and ruislip. it's in uxbridge and south filmed south ruislip. it was filmed in that constituency . south ruislip. it was filmed in tha private constituency . south ruislip. it was filmed in tha private school,|stituency . south ruislip. it was filmed in tha private school, obviously. >> private school, obviously. >> private school, obviously. >> state school. >> no, it's a state school. >> oh, so you a state school? you, paul? surely against state education should be privatised . education should be privatised. >> privatised benefit >> well, i privatised benefit state comprehensive. >> well, she's working in westminster in a think tank. >> does not mean she necessarily was privately and was privately educated and i went to a state school. >> look maybe you requirement to be that you've got to be an mp is that you've got to have at one shift at have done at least one shift at a that makes you a normal a pub that makes you a normal person. i made the point person. well i made the point only jest that actually only half in jest that actually the party , we should have the labour party, we should have a requirement you are a requirement that if you are a candidate as an mp for the labour party, you should have worked two years the minimum worked two years on the minimum wage in an average job, preferably manual labour, working in a warehouse or an office or call centre, something like that. >> but then you just have you just these guys just have these posh guys and girls who just going to doing a
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shift and doing a shift in a factory just so they can get on the list. >> i mean, why not? i mean it's an improved perhaps. anyway, let's move something let's move on to something completely different. is king charles off? he is charles ripping us off? he is due to get a 45% increase, which is which is quite well, it's significant in his royal stipend by 2025. now, during a cost of living crisis, is this the best look really for the monarchy? but if the crown estates are doing doing well, this is the alternative view and our sovereign is busy at work. is it something we should really bother about? everyone needs an income, don't they? reem everyone does need an income, of course, the king is a very important part of our british tradition and our history. >> the monarchy is an institution think is something institution i think is something that incredibly valuable . i that is incredibly valuable. i mean, definitely not in line mean, 45, definitely not in line with inflation more than what the more than what the unions with inflation more than what the asking han what the unions with inflation more than what the asking for, what the unions with inflation more than what the asking for, atiat the unions with inflation more than what the asking for, at least; unions with inflation more than what the asking for, at least anyway. are asking for, at least anyway. and that's really saying something. i think that when we're about the sort of we're thinking about the sort of economic the economic impact that the monarchy overall, got
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monarchy has overall, we've got to remember, the sort monarchy has overall, we've got to impactber, the sort monarchy has overall, we've got to impact we the sort monarchy has overall, we've got to impact we on the sort monarchy has overall, we've got to impact we on tourism»rt monarchy has overall, we've got to impact we on tourism ,t of impact we have on tourism, which incredible also. i mean which is incredible also. i mean , the crown estate's thanks to one kings that didn't one of the kings that didn't want of sort of had this want to sort of sort of had this deal the minister deal with the prime minister effectively the profits from effectively all the profits from the crown estate does go to the treasury, which is spent on pubuc so treasury, which is spent on public so the argument public services. so the argument against any kind of pay rise for the king would based on the the king would be based on the idea that we need more money for pubuc idea that we need more money for public which of public services, which i of course we do need that course think we do not need that for. money >> well, there go. >> well, there we go. >> well, there we go. >> public services and >> cut the public services and you're quite relaxed with money going to royal family going to the royal family because believe that because you believe that they probably, balance, probably, on balance, bring in far our country in terms far more to our country in terms of pride, tourism. et of national pride, tourism. et cetera. cetera, mark. however cetera. et cetera, mark. however i to our viewers and i did put to our viewers and listeners , what would listeners, what would you privatise? you privatise? what would you nationalise mark privatise nationalise? mark said privatise the royal family. paul is that one privatisation you'd agree with? >> well, i'm scrapping it rather than privatising it actually would be a better thing. >> you are squeaking like billyo on that chair. >> i know we're going to need to change it, but i might, i might grab your money. the think the
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grab your money. the i think the opfics grab your money. the i think the optics terrible. we're in optics are terrible. we're in the middle of a cost of living crisis. people are really struggling to ends meet. struggling to make ends meet. you've got interest rates going up going to be up and people are going to be really it difficult really finding it difficult to pay really finding it difficult to pay their mortgages. you've got real wages are falling year real wages that are falling year on and whatever kind of on year and whatever the kind of technical how technical arguments for how the crown the monarchy crown and the monarchy is funded, justification funded, whatever justification can for the can be made for that. the reality people out there reality is that people out there are see as one are going to see that as one rule for them and one rule for everybody else. and i think it's going to play into the argument that people recite with that people often recite with justification, my view , that justification, in my view, that the royal family is too bloated . actually, you know, there are probably many properties, probably too many properties, there are probably too many hangers and going hangers on. and if we're going to royal family, then i to have a royal family, then i would favour of would be in favour of a republic. personally, i think we should be allowed elect our should be allowed to elect our head of state like other grown up do. but we are up countries do. but if we are going have a royal family, at going to have a royal family, at least into line with least bring it into line with some the european monarchies, some of the european monarchies, places norway, denmark, places like norway, denmark, sweden, more sweden, where they are much more streamlined, think is true. >> a lot of european monarchies are much more streamlined and they cost taxpayer
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they do cost the taxpayer cost they do cost the taxpayer cost the less. the country far less. >> would say that are >> but i would say that we are special in britain and perhaps we a more expensive we merit a more expensive monarchy. if that's monarchy. i don't know if that's a opinion. who knows? a popular opinion. who knows? i'm just throwing it out there. but how but it's quite interesting how royal decided. it's royal funding is decided. it's tied to the profits to a percentage of the profits of the crown it i crown estate. now it is 25, i believe, at moment it is believe, at the moment it is dropping 12. but because the dropping to 12. but because the crown estate has been making higher profits, it will increase that number quite dramatically . that number quite dramatically. and this is because, for example, the crown estate is allowing aid to be used allowing large aid to be used for wind turbines and the like. they're leasing out land and they're making a profit off it. and they say the buckingham palace spokesperson says that the sovereign grant has remained flat at 86 million for several years, which she said was a real terms cut . so there you go. terms cut. so there you go. considered against inflation, having to squeeze, join a trade , all having we're all having to squeeze our belts, get them out on a picket line. >> she also said that the increase is due that increase that is due that is coming down the road in 2025 will be spent on renovate
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sorting improving buckingham palace. >> so you palace. » so palace. >> so you go. there you go. >> i do think it's interesting that they've actually said that it's cut. it's a real terms pay cut. that's quite i think that's quite funny. i think we've remember that 25% we've got to remember that 25% is the family is what the royal family receive. if we were to privatise or abolish, as you say , the or abolish, as you say, the royal family, the crown estate would still be so we would still be there. so we wouldn't able to build wind wouldn't be able to build wind turbines are publicly turbines on it that are publicly funded we wouldn't be able funded and we wouldn't be able to the things that we to do many of the things that we do with estate and all do with the crown estate and all of that money longer go of that money would no longer go to treasury. so technically to the treasury. so technically we don't actually pay anything as taxpayers. >> could about all >> i could talk about this all day and come to your views day and we'll come to your views in just moment. but we're in just a moment. but we're going to have a quick look at the that warm feeling from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt proud sponsors of boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. damp and breezy for many of us this weekend, particularly during saturday, feeling under the rain. but feeling cool under the rain. but first, signs of something a little brighter for many, albeit not for all. by sunday weather
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with quite a number of showers in the south. this area of rain across northern england will persist and that's likely to lead to large rainfall totals by monday. that's sinking away, replaced by showers . replaced by showers. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> yes, coming up, rents are up 33. teenage buyers main source of news is now tick tock. should we be worried? and china has infiltrated all aspects of british life . benign force or a british life. benign force or a threat to democracy ? all of that
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that people at home are enjoying this duo. i am very much enjoying this duo. so we've got some beers to enjoy, to celebrate the fabulous duo because apparently you debate without any beastliness paul hadnt without any beastliness paul hadn't heard before. >> love each other very much. >> love each other very much. >> no beastliness, which is very nice. >> many years. >> many years. >> have a little sip now. anyway before the break we were talking about king charles. he's going to be having more money, more money on king charles money spent on king charles while he's getting to keep more of the profits from the crown estate we did scrap the estate and if we did scrap the royal family as paul has royal family as paul embery has suggested, we might, that money, the crown estate, would go back into public ownership up as we fundamentally own it. so that money could be spent on public services in theory anyway . but services in theory anyway. but jennifer has said if we can summon up at least £6 million each day to keep migrants in the uk, i think you're talking about hotel accommodation there. surely amount cash surely the amount of cash the king gets worth it, ruth king gets is well worth it, ruth says. is an old man who says. charles is an old man who has no idea how a normal people live and the struggles they have
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has no idea how a normal people liv make the struggles they have has no idea how a normal people livmake endstruggles they have has no idea how a normal people livmake ends meet.3s they have has no idea how a normal people livmake ends meet. yes|ey have has no idea how a normal people livmake ends meet. yes you're e to make ends meet. yes you're probably with that one. probably right with that one. i think there's more debate because it's king charles. i think people were quite happy for to be receiving for the queen to be receiving so much richard says. build much money. richard says. build a housing estate in a new green housing estate in windsor park with an immigration processing of processing centre. plenty of room seem to be room for it. we seem to be coming back to the to the to the amount of money we're currently spending who have spending on people who have crossed but it's a crossed the channel. but it's a fair to fair. now fair point. to be fair. now moving on, private rents in britain all time britain have reached all time highs. the average amount outside has risen by a outside london has risen by a third in four years. that is quite incredible. the quite incredible. despite the hike, being quickly hike, homes are being quickly let, with landlords facing long queues of hopeful tenants demand far exceeds supply in many areas, leading to higher prices worsened then by landlords passing on higher costs due to increased interest rates on their own mortgages. so is this just how the free market works ? just how the free market works? is it a free market or are we being ripped off? paul well , being ripped off? paul well, it's not very free, is it, for the for many families who are living in bed and breakfast
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accommodation , it's not very accommodation, it's not very free for the millions of people who are paying extortionate rents . rents. >> those people are not benefiting , particularly from benefiting, particularly from the free market. so far as i can see. when you look at the average cost of rent outside london, £1,200 per calendar month , if you look at the month, if you look at the average cost in the capital, double that which i think is a is a scandalous amount of money. and the truth is that we have got a chronic shortage of housing in this country and millions of people are suffering as a result of it. and the thing that we should do and we should have done it years ago and we should do it now is a massive programme of social housing build in social housing. >> but you'd say that. paul well, works. well, and it works. >> i if you look at the >> i mean, if you look at the post—war, the attlee government, one best things that one of the best things that government was to because, government did was to because, you know, prior to then, when you know, prior to then, when you at the 20s 30s, you look at the 20s and 30s, people living in slum people have been living in slum accommodation insanitary accommodation in insanitary conditions it all sorts accommodation in insanitary co impacts it all sorts accommodation in insanitary co impacts terms all sorts accommodation in insanitary co impacts terms ofill sorts accommodation in insanitary co impacts terms of people's of impacts in terms of people's health and well being and so on. and that government had a
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massive building council massive building of council housing which allowed families to live in decent accommodation that wasn't infested with, with disease and mould and whatever for. and given the shortage we've got at the moment and given the prices that people are paying given the prices that people are paying and given the fact that people are living in substandard accommodation and are very much at mercy of , in accommodation and are very much at mercy of, in some cases at the mercy of, in some cases parasitical landlords, not all of them, but but some of them, there is i think , an there is i think, an incontestable case to say that we need to spend whatever is necessary to give people decent accommodation because you accommodation because once you get then reduce demand get that, you then reduce demand and you get the prices and then you get the prices coming people coming down, whether it's people buying people renting buying homes or people renting homes. seems to homes. and this seems to me to be brainer. be a no brainer. >> this a problem. >> this is a problem. >> this is a problem. >> people often talk because our media is quite london centric a lot the time. talk about lot of the time. talk about london pushing out london rents, pushing people out of talking about how of the city, talking about how high karen's on, high they are. karen's been on, she live in stockport in she says, i live in stockport in a two up, two down mid—terraced house built in 1800, in 2019 i
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was paying £550 . in 2020 it went was paying £550. in 2020 it went up to £675. in august. last year it went up to £995. one more increase and i'll be living in tent. >> that's awful. i mean, i think it's interesting that paul sort of seems to think that social housing is somehow the way forward. we've got to remember that the housing system is not a free market system. the government reducing government are actively reducing or restricting the supply of housing, which effectively means i mean, it's economics 101. if you increase the of you increase the supply of something, will go down. something, prices will go down. we shouldn't be trying to reduce demand. trying to demand. we should be trying to increase supply to actually supply . and supply that demand. and unfortunately, the government seems to be actively restricting house building. we've got to build more homes. that is the only out of the housing crisis. >> well, yes, indeed . we will >> well, yes, indeed. we will come to coming up come back to that coming up next. getting lots of next. and i'm getting lots of views in from you. who've you at home who've experienced these rental increases? can't rental price increases? i can't quite that karen's quite believe that that karen's in stockport has gone up from quite believe that that karen's in stock 550 to £995 just since 2019. so
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four years ago, almost doubled. thatis four years ago, almost doubled. that is quite incredible . i that is quite incredible. i imagine you'll have to move if it goes up any further unless your income goes up one way or another. that is really quite incredible. and we've seen similar across the country, but teenage buyers are now mainly getting their news from tick tock. something we tock. is this something we should worried about? i'm a should be worried about? i'm a little worried .
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from . nine from. nine >> yes, welcome back to dewbs& co. >> yes, welcome back to dewbs& c0. with >> yes, welcome back to dewbs& co. with me, emily carver. keeping me company still is reem ibrahim from the institute of economic affairs . and paul economic affairs. and paul embry, writer, broadcaster and firefighter. now, a lot of you have been making the point at home. been writing and home. you've been writing in and making point that the only making the point that the only way sort the housing problem making the point that the only w¢to sort the housing problem making the point that the only w¢to stoprt the housing problem making the point that the only w¢to stop mass housing problem making the point that the only w¢to stop mass immigrationlem making the point that the only w¢to stop mass immigration and is to stop mass immigration and i do think that is a is a good point to make. so the population has increased rapid diddly, ergo we have difficulty housing this many people when the population grows. reem you would say, well, if we just have planning reform, we can house them all. >> i absolutely, i absolutely agree. >> and also, i mean, the demand is always going to go up. so we should be increasing supply, not trying reduce demand. trying to reduce demand. but clive as we import clive says as long as we import 500,000 plus people into uk 500,000 plus people into the uk each are never to going each year, we are never to going build and prices and build enough and prices and rents will continue to rise. >> well above inflation rate. is mass immigration us
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mass immigration making us poorer up poorer because it's pushing up rents? it's a factor. rents? well it's a factor. >> question about >> there's no question about that. isn't only that. but it isn't the only factor. and think that when factor. and i think that when you've got a situation where you have, as said prior to the have, as i said prior to the break, millions of families who can't get into decent, affordable then affordable accommodation, then frankly, only answer frankly, i think the only answer or certainly most practical or certainly the most practical answer the intervention answer is the intervention of the and intervention the state and the intervention of the state to say is of the state to say this is clearly problem and we clearly a chronic problem and we have to intervene as a government to make sure we provide houses cheap and affordable houses, decent houses for people, just as we did after the war. there's no reason why we again. we couldn't do that again. >> wonder where all this >> i just wonder where all this money's going from though. >> paul you know the labour party, they've already backtracked all their backtracked on all of their pubuc backtracked on all of their public spending. it seems. it seems a consensus that we seems to be a consensus that we we've out of course debt we've run out and of course debt is 100% of at the moment is at 100% of gdp at the moment and there's not enough money to go seems. but you go around. it seems. but you would tax the would say tax the rich. >> i'm a subscriber to the john maynard keynes school of thought who that we can who said that anything we can actually can afford. and actually do, we can afford. and it's absolutely true. we're a currency issue in sovereign
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nafion currency issue in sovereign nation . we can't run out of nation. we can't run out of money. we can't go bankrupt. >> we should not be we might not be allowed to borrow if we if we spend too much willy nilly. >> isn't it funny that when it comes to any military escapade like invading bailing like invading iraq or bailing out banks or covid or out the banks or covid or whatever, we can suddenly find billions of pounds down the back of sofa a of need. of the sofa in a time of need. well, it a time of need well, isn't it a time of need when you've got families ? when you've got families? >> 46% of 46% gdp? that is >> 46% of 46% of gdp? that is ridiculous . yes. we spend far ridiculous. yes. we spend far too much. the size of the state is incredibly bloated. >> do you know what i think? this that will this is something that will divide. the nation on divide. divide the nation on whether spending much whether we're spending too much or little our public or too little on our public services. but we must move on because chinese owned social because the chinese owned social media giant tiktok is now the uk's most news source uk's most popular news source for 12 15 year olds, the for 12 to 15 year olds, the mobile app allows users to create share videos on any create and share videos on any topic, including the news. do any of you watch tiktok? are you turning off gb news for the social giant? perhaps social media giant? or perhaps you're news you're watching gb news highlights if you do, highlights on tiktok. if you do, you might have seen my post
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explaining the story earlier. take a look. tick tock. the biggest single source biggest single news source for teenagers in this country will be looking at that tonight on dewbs& co i'm covering michelle dewberry on gb news this evening from 6:00, but what actually is tick tock ? well, it's a social tick tock? well, it's a social media platform that focuses on entertainment, media platform that focuses on entertainment , fun videos, but entertainment, fun videos, but also now news. news is everywhere on tick tock and there are big questions about whether there can be propaganda at play. what children are seeing, whether they can rely on the news sources they're seeing on tick tock. do you think it's a good thing that teenagers are receiving their news this receiving their news in this way? let me know tonight on dewbs& co well, there you go. i'm not sure i have a career as a tiktok star, but i do know one tiktok star and she happens to be sat next to me in the shape and form of reem ibrahim . and and form of reem ibrahim. and reem, you think tiktok is a fantastic resource and children should be using it and we don't need to worry about it. >> do think we don't need to
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>> i do think we don't need to worry about it. i do think tiktok is fantastic. and i think that the fact that children or teenagers are getting news . teenagers are getting the news. is a positive thing. the fact that people are that people, young people are engaging think engaging in these ideas i think is a positive thing. do need is a positive thing. we do need to about the precautions to think about the precautions here. unfortunately, tiktok here. now, unfortunately, tiktok politics especially is incredibly leftist incredibly inundated by leftist ideas, and there aren't there aren't many of us right wingers on tiktok, unfortunately. and we know a lot of the time those kind of ideas tend to be suppressed in the algorithm. now for our viewers that don't know suppressed in the algorithm. now for wayliewers that don't know suppressed in the algorithm. now for way thatrs that don't know suppressed in the algorithm. now for way that the 1at don't know suppressed in the algorithm. now for way that the tiktok 't know the way that the tiktok algorithm that algorithm works is that effectively tries takes effectively it tries and takes the things that you already like. so if you're already a leftist some leftist or you already like some socialist then it will socialist ideas, then it will spit at you. those exact spit back at you. those exact same ideas. it's sort of like an echo . so that's echo chamber. so that's something and i something to worry about. and i think to try and think we need to try and diversify that, get more right wing people on tiktok. if wing people on tiktok. so if i liked about this liked are you worried about this sort indoctrination sort of political indoctrination through on tiktok through news coverage on tiktok whereby you like one lefty video and then you get bombarded by it? >> so in your case, in— >> so in your case, as you it? >> so in your case, as you are a bit left wing, let's say, they
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got bombarded by reams free marketeer content and then suddenly they become a mad libertarian. >> i have to say, i was worried about it until ryan said it's infested with socialist ideas and then i thought, actually, i'll give it a fair wing. >> also a lot of woke ideas. >> also a lot of woke ideas. >> okay, well, i wouldn't be so keen but i think, i keen on. but, but i think, i mean, in all seriousness, i think with these social media sites and kids using them, it has become, i think many has become, i think for many kids, of a drug. and kids, a bit of a drug. and i think it's, you know, it's a dangerous drug potentially. and if we in any other walk of life, if we in any other walk of life, if kids are indulging in dangerous drugs, then we tend to licence and tend to take licence it and we tend to take action. and i think with this, i think something that think it's something that probably need a bit probably does need a little bit of regulation. like to see of regulation. i'd like to see the voluntarily the tech companies voluntarily place limits on how long place time limits on how long individual kids can spend on their sites. >> i think that's not a bad idea. time limits, but perhaps that should the that should be down to the parents. let me know what you think. that, unfortunately, parents. let me know what you th all that, unfortunately, parents. let me know what you th all we've1at, unfortunately, parents. let me know what you th all we've got unfortunately, parents. let me know what you th all we've got unforfor. itely, parents. let me know what you th all we've got unforfor. it's', is all we've got time for. it's been a fantastic show. i've really enjoyed myself this
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evening. lovely glass of prosecco to finish. i hope you're time at you're having a lovely time at home. we now lee home. i believe we now have lee anderson one moment. anderson in just one moment. he's a rip of a show he's got a rip roarer of a show coming as always, do stay coming up. as always, do stay tuned that and have tuned for that and have a absolutely weekend . i'm absolutely lovely weekend. i'm off whole week . off for a whole week. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the metalfest with the gb news forecast damp and breezy for many of us this weekend, particularly during saturday. feeling cool the saturday. feeling cool under the rain. but signs of something a little brighter for many, albeit not for all. by sunday weather fronts are streaming in from the west. they are now thickening up the cloud for many places, bringing spells of rain overnight to northern ireland and into western scotland , and into western scotland, north—west england, as well as much of north wales dribs and drabs of rainfall for south wales, south—west england staying dry and clear for the south—east of england. although with the breeze picking up a lot
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of cover, it's a mild of cloud cover, it's a mild night for many. the one exception northern scotland exception in northern scotland mid here with mid single figures here with some sunshine thing and some sunshine first thing and actually if you're after sunshine this weekend, northern scotland is the place to be. 1 or 2 showers for shetland as well as orkney. the odd shower for aberdeen but otherwise northern scotland fine. south east england starts fine before some light rain arrives by the afternoon. it's outbreak of rain widely elsewhere as a strengthening breeze . strengthening breeze. unseasonable conditions really especially towards the south—west and west into sunday. it stays breezy in the south, especially around coasts, but brighter skies event appear with quite a number of showers in the south. this area of rain across northern england will persist and that's likely to lead to large rainfall totals by monday . that's sinking away, replaced by showers as the temperatures rising . rising. >> boxt solar probe proud sponsors of weather on .
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