on. oh, no more . what about the on. oh, no more. what about the board, for example? of natwest? not least the chairman of that board. should they stay or should they go? and have you seen the news about british gas? goodness gracious me . profits in goodness gracious me. profits in the first six months of this year of almost £1 billion whilst you and i and all of us suffer with our bills. what's the answer to all of this then? more taxes, rebate for customers. you give me the answer and get this a store. now is saying that perhaps there's going to be a circle no go zone. yes, that is tncky circle no go zone. yes, that is tricky for my accent when it comes to them. they're opening shops. why because of shoplifting. they're saying that it is not being taken seriously enough. but with everything going on in this society , how going on in this society, how seriously should the police be taking shoplifting? how much of a priority should it be? and we're all familiar by now with the situation of andrew malkinson of course, the guy

who's just had his conviction overturned after a 20 year fight. but did you know that when you are wrongfully imprisoned and you hopefully get compensation in at the end of it, that perhaps you get a deduction from that money to cover your board and lodgings whilst in prison ? do you agree whilst in prison? do you agree with that or not? and get this, everybody . all india calling him everybody. all india calling him hallelujah, hallelujah , hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah , i'm holding on. i hallelujah, i'm holding on. i can barely believe it. my legs are going to go any moment now because a miracle has happened. keir starmer he finally knows what a woman is. if you want to know, you'll have to stay tuned because we've got it all coming your way. but before we get into it, bring ourselves up to it, let's bring ourselves up to speed tonight's latest speed with tonight's latest headunes. speed with tonight's latest headlines . michelle thank you headlines. michelle thank you and good evening. this is the

latest from the newsroom. >> the ceo of coutts bank, peter flavell, has stepped down with immediate effect . its interim immediate effect. its interim boss said the resignation was agreed by mutual consent and is the right decision for coutts and the wider group. mr flavell says that in the handling of mr farage case the bank had fallen below the high standards of personal service . he's also said personal service. he's also said he bears full responsibility for the poor handling of the farage case.in the poor handling of the farage case. in response to his resignation. farage says it was only a matter of time. it follows the resignation of former ceo of the natwest group, dame alison rose, who could be in line for a £5 million pay off if british gas owner centrica has revealed that earnings at its gas and electricity supply arm have soared by 889% to £969 million in the six months to june. shadow climate secretary ed miliband says the scale of the profits show that the money isn't being reinvested into energy production and is instead

being funnelled back to shareholders . but the prime shareholders. but the prime minister insists that energy companies windfall profits are being taxed to support consumers , is helping to pay around half of a typical family's energy bill. >> i know that the number one challenge families are facing up and down the country is the cost of living and in particular, their energy bills. that's why i took a decision back when i was chancellor to introduce a windfall tax on the energy companies. so now taxing companies. so we are now taxing these windfall profits of energy companies and we're using that money to help us pay around half of a typical family's energy bill, particularly over the last winter. that support has been worth £1,500 to a typical family. it's support on the scale of the furlough scheme to give people context, because i know how important it is for the government and me to ease some of pressures cost of those pressures on the cost of those pressures on the cost of living. >> a man who shot dead a custody sergeant in a police cell in 2020 has been sentenced to a whole life term in prison . 25 whole life term in prison. 25 year old louis de zoysa fatally

shot sergeant matt ratana in croydon. de zoysa claimed diminished responsibility during the three week trial, but the jury the three week trial, but the jury took around five hours to unanimously convict him . the unanimously convict him. the decision to release double child killer colin pitchfork will be re—examined by a new parole board. the 63 year old was jailed for life after raping and strangling 215 year old girls in the early 80s . strangling 215 year old girls in the early 80s. he was given a minimum sentence of 30 years in 1988, later reduced to 28 years for good behaviour and was released in 2021. pitch fork was recalled to prison two months later after approaching young women in the street, which was later deemed flawed by the parole board . tram operators parole board. tram operators have been fined a total of £14 million over the croydon derail moment, which killed seven people. many more were injured when a tram carrying 69 people derailed near the sandilands stop in november 2016. transport

for london and tram operations limited have accepted that failing in their health and safety duties. mrjustice fraser told the court this was undoubtedly an accident waiting to happen . jean smith, the to happen. jean smith, the mother of mark who died in the tram crash, says no fines can bnng tram crash, says no fines can bring her son back . the whole bring her son back. the whole sentencing was pointless as a family, while we appreciate that both tfl and tfl admitted liability straight away , their liability straight away, their fines are meaningless in the light of loss of life . a high light of loss of life. a high court judge has ruled that the duke of sussex can bring a claim of unlawful information gathering to trial against the publisher of the sun, but not a claim of phone hacking . prince claim of phone hacking. prince harry alleges he was targeted by journalists and private investigators working for the news group. newspapers the sun publisher says the announcement is a significant victory. publisher says the announcement is a significant victory . the is a significant victory. the group denies any unlawful activity took place . wildfires

activity took place. wildfires in greece continue despite a drop in temperatures. blazes have spread across the country for more than a week, killing three people and causing over 20,000 tourists to evacuate roads . 61 more fires have roads. 61 more fires have erupted in greece in the last 24 hours, with footage showing cliffs and trees scorched by the blazes . in albania, crews blazes. in albania, crews continue to battle the flames across the country's southern region , with emergency region, with emergency helicopters dropping water on the affected areas . in italy, the affected areas. in italy, the affected areas. in italy, the extent of the devastation can be seen after a wildfire turned the hills surrounding a fifth century temple into ash . fifth century temple into ash. and finally, no medical cause has been given for the death of irish singer sinead o'connor, who was found unresponsive at her home in london yesterday. an autopsy will be conducted with the results expected to take several weeks. the 56 year old's death is not being treated as suspicious . death is not being treated as suspicious. tv death is not being treated as suspicious . tv online death is not being treated as suspicious. tv online dab+ radio

and on. tune in. you're with gb news. now it's back to . news. now it's back to. michelle >> thank you for that. it is dewbs & co right through till dewbs& co right through till seven with me, michelle dewberry alongside me. i've got the life peerin alongside me. i've got the life peer in the house of lords. daniel moylan and the historian and broadcaster starkey. and broadcaster david starkey. good gents . good good evening, gents. good evening. you know the drill, evening. and you know the drill, don't not just about don't you? it's not just about us. sorry. it's very much about don't you? it's not just about us. guys it's very much about don't you? it's not just about us. guys it' home.much about don't you? it's not just about us. guys it' home. what'sbout don't you? it's not just about us. guys it' home. what's ont don't you? it's not just about us. guys it' home. what's on your you guys at home. what's on your mind tonight? martin, you are one of the first emails that i got tonight i've come got tonight telling me i've come dressed a greek. an what can dressed as a greek. an what can i say? fashion. i'll leave i say? it's fashion. i'll leave it at that. gb views at gb news dot com how you can get hold dot com is how you can get hold of me or you can tweet me at gb news. let's kick off news. now let's kick off with what one of the most what i think is one of the most important stories going on in this country now because this country right now because it, of course, hits our banking sector all of us rely on our banks and all of us deserve, of

course , to trust our banks. and course, to trust our banks. and you'll be familiar by now that dame alison rose, natwest ceo, has stepped down, of course. but today , now it's moved on because today, now it's moved on because the chief executive of coutts also stepping down with immediate effect . now i've got immediate effect. now i've got to say, nigel farage, he's not having any of that. he doesn't think it's enough. he suggests that perhaps the board should go as well. let's just have a little listen, shall we, to what he has to say. >> the resignation of dame alison is a start. it's a start. i mean, she cannot be the only person that carries the can for a terrible decision that was made yesterday by the board of the natwest group. they endorsed somebody who'd broken the basic banking code of client confidence reality. they backed up her false claims that she had not revealed what the funds in my account were, which had been completely disproved by the bbc. this is gross mismanagement. so i think actually dame alison going isn't enough .

going isn't enough. >> well, i'm going to start with you on this one, david starkey, because you don't mind me saying i know this because i've checked. i'm not indiscreet when it comes to people's finances as you a customer. so i wonder you are a customer. so i wonder what from that what do you from that perspective make of these perspective make of all of these kind of goings on? kind of strange goings on? >> surprised >> i'm rather surprised i haven't been cancelled as well. all right, let's careful what you say. >> no, no, no, no, no, no. >> let's let's be serious and straightforward about this. about two years ago, we were written to by peter flavel , written to by peter flavel, which said if we brought coutts into disrepute that we would have our account closed. and this phrase has not been properly discussed or this phrase bringing into disrepute is entirely open ended. you can put whatever content into it you want and if you actually look at the dossier that's compiled against nigel, what it involves doing is saying that there is only one single legitimate spectrum of opinion , which you

spectrum of opinion, which you could broadly describe as middle to far left. if you're even slightly on the right, you were not within the bounds of acceptable opinion. and to labels have put on you as they were put on. nigel in that or indeed put on me, you are controversial and you're at risk of bringing people into disrepute route. and can i just say i think that what nigel has doneis say i think that what nigel has done is very important . this is done is very important. this is just the tip of an iceberg. it is not banks who are doing this . it is every business who is doing this because they've all been taken over by esg . they've been taken over by esg. they've all been taken over by what i think we shouldn't talk about it as what it normally is. we should call it die diversity inclusion and equity, because it kills every organisation. but the thing that will come out, the thing that will come out, the state, the big state, the

civil service is now operating on these principles and i predict it will only be a matter of time when the state starts applying the same sanctions that we saw at the that we saw. coutts trying to apply this is why nigel struggle is not simply about banking, it's not simply about banking, it's not simply about him , it's about trying to about him, it's about trying to reverse our drift to a neo chinese society when covid hit i said we would get a chinese virus and we'd finish with a chinese society and we are terribly far on the way. >> daniel moylan , your thoughts? >> daniel moylan, your thoughts? >> daniel moylan, your thoughts? >> well, i just want to pick up on what david said there, because in cases like this, you look to the regulator that's the system we have. i don't think it's a very effective system. >> but the fco, we're talking about the fca to have stepped in and sorted this out. >> i mean, is just it's >> i mean, this is just it's only two weeks since they published their new customer duty banks. and here was duty on the banks. and here was a customer who clearly being a customer who was clearly being abused of that and abused in terms of that duty and not getting the service he was

entitled to wear . not getting the service he was entitled to wear. and not getting the service he was entitled to wear . and they have entitled to wear. and they have been totally absent . in fact, been totally absent. in fact, the thing we've seen on the only thing we've seen on yeah, thing we've seen yeah, the only thing we've seen from them is that they were comfortable apparently with dame alison remaining in post. alison rose remaining in post. so i think we really do need an inquiry. i mean, nigel farage is talking about an inquiry pursuing the board, but we really need an inquiry into the regulator to see if they're fit for purpose. but should the board remain an example or should the board remain? >> well , can should the board remain? >> well, can we just can i just quickly pick up on what daniel said, because it's really important. >> do know was the >> do you know who was the founding chairman of the fca , founding chairman of the fca, sir howard davies? sir howard davies, who is the current chairman of natwest. davies, who is the current chairman of natwest . now, davies, who is the current chairman of natwest. now, this is what is so stinking. there's an entire group, close knit circle waiting. and do you know what is characteristic of this group? like howard davies? they rise through failure . he failed rise through failure. he failed at the fca . he was rise through failure. he failed at the fca. he was a negligible deputy governor of the bank of

england. he had to resign on as governor of the london school of sorry, as director of the london school of economics, because he was tainted. three guesses what with gaddafi money. and not only was it gaddafi money, let's just continue . the lse actually gave continue. the lse actually gave gaddafi's son a cheating phd to get that money. now do we need to understand who these people are? >> well, in case you are, i mean, obviously he's not here to respond to that allegation. but in case you're wondering who howard davies is, i just put the board up on your screen. and so your top left hand corner there, thatis your top left hand corner there, that is howard davies. that is the that we're referring to the guy that we're referring to there. remind you, when there. just to remind you, when alison that alison rose admitted that she had conversation had indeed had that conversation with the bbc journalist, you might be familiar with the fact that it was howard davies that issued a statement on behalf of the natwest group, and i'll read it i read it at it to you again. i read it at the because found it the time because i found it quite shocking, really . he was quite shocking, really. he was saying after careful saying that after careful consideration board consideration, the board had concluded that it retained full confidence in ms rose as the ceo

of the bank, and it is for that reason and that reason alone . reason and that reason alone. when you head that kind of board and you sit on that kind of board and you make the decision that when an a senior executive has failed in their duty, when they have breached that basic rule 101 of confidence of reality, when you stand there with a straight face and you say they have still got, you know , they have still got, you know, you have still got full confidence in that person, you have to look inward. you have to ask yourself, am i the person for this job? do you think he should remain in that post? >> daniel well, just want to >> daniel well, i just want to say, you at that board, say, if you look at that board, if look at independents if you look at the independents on the independent on that board, the independent directors, they're actually in city terms, they're quite weak. >> would this, that if >> i would say this, that if you're going to give your confidence to a chief executive, but you end up chairing a board at midnight that finishes at 129 in the morning, then i think really your standing is such that you don't have much credibility anymore. >> and i just want to say not

everybody. eddie is on the same page with this with this, because there have been people that are critical of nigel farage. there are other people , farage. there are other people, for example, agree with the for example, that agree with the fact that actually he shouldn't be entitled to basic banking services because they disagree with his policy . someone that with his policy. someone that was speaking out on a similar note was emily maitlis. you can listen to that. now, let's just remind ourselves what she had to say. >> farage made it an argument about free speech, about liberty, censorship, when liberty, about censorship, when it that no one was it wasn't that no one was shutting him down, no one was stopping him from banking. no one was calling him names. they simply waited until he paid off a mortgage. having decided ahead of time that they would call it quits at that point. and this of time that they would call it quitsa t that point. and this of time that they would call it quitsa publicooint. and this of time that they would call it quitsa public utilityand this of time that they would call it quitsa public utility fee.this of time that they would call it quitsa public utility fee. it's isn't a public utility fee. it's not electricity . it's a posh not electricity. it's a posh private bank. it's in the name . private bank. it's in the name. yet the power of the populist somehow is to turn utter entitlement into victimhood . and entitlement into victimhood. and thatis entitlement into victimhood. and that is quite the move . that is quite the move. >> see, i found that quite fascinating because when she

says this bank is not a public utility, it just happens to be owned by us. yeah, nearly 40% earned by the public. >> this government owes the taxpayer. >> it's also called a plc and the word public does come into it. but can we just understand? emily maitlis? emily maitlis is a woman who straddles double standards . just look at her standards. just look at her performance on the whole business of her favourite , you business of her favourite, you know, favourite television presenter. he does something . it presenter. he does something. it is quite clear that had it been a tory mp, she would be leading the attack . but because he's the attack. but because he's a liberal, because he's one of theirs. this is scandalous and disgraceful. i think these people are bluntly disgrace. awful. there's also something else we need to take into account and we earlier this week i was on gb news and we were talking about boris deranged syndrome. there is a nigel derangement syndrome, which means that people are incapable of separating the man from the

principle and the notion that there is a principle at stake, which is the proper availability of banking because what she said was just straightforwardly, factually wrong. if your banned by one bank, you cannot get another banking account. he tried ten other. >> i think what she's on about is apparently, according to natwest, they're saying that farage can but they only they only offered him that after he tried all the can we get the sequence, you see. sequence, you see. >> sequence, you see. >> sorry, i'm a historian. sequence of events are very important. he had the humiliating business of going to ten other banks before four. there was the concession that he might be downgraded to natwest . might be downgraded to natwest. now, come on. i'll tell you what. this woman who vindicated herself against prince andrew, the notion that you establish yourself as a champion of right against the feeblest, the intellectually most feeble member of the royal family got it. >> i wouldn't out of principle , >> i wouldn't out of principle, i wouldn't want my business to be within that group if they had had these dossiers on me like

that. but very briefly, final question to you, daniel. all these that are quitting or these execs that are quitting or leaving agreement, by leaving by mutual agreement, by the found fascinating, the way, i found fascinating, i think should been think there should have been fired but fired for gross misconduct. but anyway, think they should anyway, do you think they should be getting some kind of generous pay be getting some kind of generous pay off on their way out or not? >> on the seriousness >> it depends on the seriousness of what they've done and breaching confidentiality is quite i very, very quite serious. i very, very quickly, quite i worked i worked for a part of natwest 30 years ago and we'd get the natwest group family bulletin would come round every week and it would say, who was getting married? and who'd had a baby. and at the end of it there was a long list of people who simply said at the beginning the following have been dismissed the service been dismissed from the service of didn't say why, but of the bank. didn't say why, but you knew it either because you knew it was either because they'd their fingers in the they'd had their fingers in the till because breached. till or because they'd breached. >> a long list? i'm >> was it a long list? i'm worried. it's long list. worried. it's a long list. >> long list. >> quite a long list. >> quite a long list. >> breached confidentiality >> and breached confidentiality or like that. they or something like that. and they would they didn't get a pay would just they didn't get a pay off when they left. you wouldn't be i don't think you'd be able

to with that in this to get away with that in this day and age. >> do you reckon like a daily bulletin, weekly, monthly bulletin, a weekly, monthly bulletin, a weekly, monthly bulletin that bulletin of all the people that have let go or have been fired or let go or whatever gross misconduct? whatever for gross misconduct? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> passed in today's society, where you can't even say something, you commit gross misconduct, don't have a lot misconduct, you don't have a lot of rights. >> well, there go. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> your thoughts that? what >> your thoughts on that? what do of all? do you do you make of it all? do you think we should draw line now think we should draw a line now or think the board or the or do you think the board or the chairman or all of them, quite frankly, be the next out frankly, should be the next out of door? now, coming up, of the door? now, coming up, i've got a lot want to discuss i've got a lot i want to discuss with you, not least gas. have you seen british gas? you seen this british gas? they're declared massive they're have declared a massive profit. laugh profit. it makes me laugh because it just ridiculous. because it is just ridiculous. there's billion in six there's nearly £1 billion in six months. do make to months. what do you make to this? all right? fair this? is it all right? all fair in capitalism or does something need to be done? if so, what?

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> hello there. welcome back . >> hello there. welcome back. michelle dewberry till 7:00 tonight alongside me, i've got lord daniel moylan and the

historian and broadcaster david starkey. in the break, daniel moylan was just pointing out to me that a viewer had got in touch with him saying the weather was rubbish and putting in a personal request for daniel to something, a tie that to wear something, a tie that was bright and summery, but he can't remember now who the person was asked him. he person was that asked him. so he wants noted that you've. >> i've done my best, michelle. i've done my best. >> so who is that viewer that requested that? and you requested that? and are you satisfied? done, has satisfied? and as he done, has he good as the man stepped he done good as the man stepped up delivered in his summery up and delivered in his summery attire? thoughts. attire? i want your thoughts. very is tonight very important. that is tonight . as quite as important . not not as quite as important , though, fact that , though, of the fact that british have reported its british gas have reported its highest ever first half profits. are you ready ? are you sitting are you ready? are you sitting comfortably, everyone? so when you perhaps have been sitting there, you're terrified to there, you're too terrified to put your heating on when it needed to be on? i heard a story, terrible story today of a lady eats food at the lady that eats cold food at the moment she doesn't want moment because she doesn't want to her gas stove and to be using her gas stove and hob and all the rest of it. when you hear stories like that and then you hear the other side of

then you hear the other side of the fence, which is six months profit of £969 million, and you've got to admit something really is going wrong , isn't it? really is going wrong, isn't it? i'm talking about british gas. people are over with this . people are all over with this. some people saying there should be british be more tax on british gas. other people there should other people saying there should be where do be rebates to consumers where do you stand? well, first of all, i'm actually rather pleased that a is doing well. a british company is doing well. >> be nice if there were a >> it'd be nice if there were a few. the second thing is, i understand we're taxing these people and the bigger the people at 75. and the bigger the profit they make, the more we could it we could do could make it 100. we could do what the labour party might want to it 100% close to do, make it 100% and close them completely. we're them down completely. but we're already that . we're at them down completely. but we're alr

nothing works. so i think we're going to be really careful about where we go on this. this is a level of profit that was already allowed by the regulator . we allowed by the regulator. we either come back to regulators , either come back to regulators, it's a rotten system. we have an absent regulator in the case of coutts and natwest and now we've got a regulator that agreed to this and that's fine , but you this and that's fine, but you can't blame british gas for it. >> where do you stand? david i am on daniel's side and i would go further . go further. >> so the problem is our entire buyer power market, gas and electricity is a rigged market. it's rigged by the state. and it also does us essentially because we subscribe to the absurd nofions we subscribe to the absurd notions of net zero. it actually delivers . and can we all get delivers. and can we all get this straight ? we pay three this straight? we pay three times as much for basic fuel as people in france or in america. one of the reasons that our

industry has collapsed and has been exported overseas is because our fuel costs are so gigantic . because our fuel costs are so gigantic. hi. can we because our fuel costs are so gigantic . hi. can we also because our fuel costs are so gigantic. hi. can we also again understand that gas prices is are important, electricity pnces are important, electricity prices are actually much more important and we have an insane system of pricing which is called marginal net pricing . and called marginal net pricing. and the reason our electricity pnces the reason our electricity prices are so gigantic is , prices are so gigantic is, however, it's generated the cost to everybody . dodi is the unit to everybody. dodi is the unit of electric city, which is most expensive. this is done , expensive. this is done, remember the entire structure of our pricing has been rigged to favour so—called renewables. we've all got to start to recognise what is going on. we sit on the largest one of the world's large suppliers of hydrocarbon bonds. the reason that gas prices are so high is that gas prices are so high is that we will not redevelop the nonh that we will not redevelop the north sea and we will not do fracking. this this is why we are dependent on a global

market. if you look in america , market. if you look in america, they are primarily selling off self. what is the word i want self—generating in terms of power. we have will this on ourselves by the follies of obeisance to global warming. and so every everything that we are doing now is going to lead to pnces doing now is going to lead to prices going higher and higher, people being able to travel less and less, being able to keep their homes less warm because of course, the entire business of heat pumps and whatever involves substituting an efficient method of heating for an inefficient. >> one of my viewers, mark, he is he says i'm a british gas customer michelle. he finds the cost of his energy reasonable. but what he's saying is he finds the standing charge something that he can of baulks at what you described at the of you described at the opening of your segment there is you're basically this free basically saying this is free markets and it is what it is. let's all celebrate a successful business. way, many of us business. by the way, many of us have funds. cetera. have pension funds. et cetera. that invested in these that are invested in in these companies well. but other

companies as well. but other people will watch this and they will say, yes, this is capitalism working as it should. but it comes to utility, is but when it comes to utility, is there an argument now to say that you utilities shouldn't be commercial endeavours, that there perhaps should be nationalised renationalise? >> say it was free >> i didn't say it was free markets because as david said , markets because as david said, the prices rigged by by the the prices are rigged by by the state and. >> but it's capitalism, isn't it? >> no, not really capitalism. >> no, not really capitalism. >> it's capital without the ism, the truth is, is ism without the caphal the truth is, is ism without the capital, i think it a rip off is what some people are exactly. private sector capital being deployed at the direction of the state. precisely it's capital without the capitalism . but what without the capitalism. but what i am saying is you shouldn't blame british gas for this because this has been these have been prices set, but because this has been these have been prices set , but they've been prices set, but they've been prices set, but they've been allowed to charge because that's the price cap set by the by the by the regulator. if you want something else you want want something else and you want to down the road of actually to go down the road of actually telling exactly how much telling them exactly how much they get closer they can earn, you get closer and to soviet society.

and closer to a soviet society. >> well, what you make to it >> well, what do you make to it all? are you happy with what you pay-7 all? are you happy with what you pay? think about pay? do you even think about what paying until what you're paying until you hear profits or do you hear of these profits or do you just that is the way the just think that is the way the cookie crumbles? your thoughts on of that? and we speak, of on all of that? and we speak, of course, we, about energy on all of that? and we speak, of courpeople? we, about energy on all of that? and we speak, of courpeople? we'llibout energy on all of that? and we speak, of courpeople? we'll talk: energy on all of that? and we speak, of courpeople? we'll talk abouty and people? we'll talk about renewables, the sun renewables, but you need the sun to and wind blow to to shine and the wind to blow to make happen. let's take a make that happen. let's take a look, shall we, at the weather. >> warm feeling from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey. who is your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. that's been a fair amount of cloud around today and we are holding on to that into the overnight period as well. a lot of cloudy skies , as well. a lot of cloudy skies, some clear spells trying to poke their through. but cloud their way through. but the cloud definitely dominating definitely the dominating weather will weather variable. the cloud will be for some be thick enough for some outbreaks throughout outbreaks of drizzle throughout the spells the night. some longer spells of rain northeast as rain for northeast scotland as well for northern ireland, southwest scotland . a few southwest scotland. a few clearer developing. and southwest scotland. a few clethere developing. and southwest scotland. a few clethere whereieveloping. and southwest scotland. a few clethere where temperatures|d southwest scotland. a few cletldropnhere temperatures|d southwest scotland. a few cletldrop down temperatures|d southwest scotland. a few cletldrop down a mperatures|d southwest scotland. a few cletldrop down a little aturesld southwest scotland. a few cletldrop down a little bites|d

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>> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. i've got so weather on. gb news. i've got so much coming up in my program for you tonight. >> a couple of things for you to ponden >> a couple of things for you to ponder. shoplifting. we all know it's not great. and of course it is illegal. but when it comes to policing priorities, how much should put the emphasis on should they put the emphasis on shoplifting? first shoplifting? that is my first question. second question, if you released from prison you get released from prison where been wrongfully where you have been wrongfully convicted, do you think if you get they should be get compensation, they should be deducted from amount of to deducted from that amount of to money take care of your board and lodgings whilst you're inside?

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>> we wrote them ourselves. >> no, we wrote them ourselves. come yourself to fire come on, do it yourself to fire off you're on from off whilst you're on air from all addresses , all different email addresses, pam says, i'm really enjoying the evenings discussions, brilliant pairings. >> smiling , actually >> i am smiling, actually smiling, and viewing . smiling, listening and viewing. they can come again, she says she welcomes you back again . she welcomes you back again. sylvia talking about the british gas stop. you're not having any of it. sylvia you're saying these are not profits. these companies making the companies are making the daylight gotten daylight robbery ill gotten gains. saying it's our gains. you're saying it's our money and it should be paid back to you? well, who's going to provide service, do provide the service, then? do you think people deserve you not think people deserve a profit delivering a service profit for delivering a service to me. philip says to you? you tell me. philip says that utilities should be back in pubuc that utilities should be back in public ownership. and doug says, what time arguing what a waste of time arguing about all the profits that these firms make. because he says nothing ever change. nothing will ever change. is that not? lots to talk that true or not? lots to talk to you about as well when it comes to law and order in a second, but also, you won't be able to believe your ears, everybody, because keir starmer is know long is finally i don't know how long it's him, but he finally it's taken him, but he finally can you what woman is. can tell you what a woman is. and give you that by

and i'll give you that answer by the of the show. but today, the end of the show. but today, the end of the show. but today, the co—op said that certain the co—op has said that certain communities become communities could become what they go that is they call no go zones. that is so tricky for the whole accent. i can tell you. anyway, they're saying about the saying it's all about the extraordinary rates of shopping, eating. of eating. they reckon that 71% of retail responded to retail crime is not responded to by police. if i broaden this by the police. if i broaden this out from just the co—op example, daniel and i start to think about shoplifting , you know, per about shoplifting, you know, per se, in society , they're saying se, in society, they're saying it's not a priority. how much of a priority do you think it should be? >> i think the first thing to note is the police, by the way. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think the first thing to noficeis >> i think the first thing to notice is that for a lot of people, shoplifting has become normalised. it's no longer something that is the there's a moral there isn't a moral clock anymore in their minds telling them that this is something that is shameful and embarrassing and they shouldn't be. they shouldn't be it. if you shouldn't be doing it. if you can away with it's all can get away with it, it's all right. it's that collapse in right. and it's that collapse in in a moral sense that i think is really at the bottom of all this that worries much. should

that worries me so much. should the be making priority the police be making a priority of very of it? it's very, very difficult, isn't it? i think on short, sharp exercises where they might actually do something and catch some people for a matter of weeks focussed in a certain area is the sort of thing that might put enough people for off a while. but to say that this is more important than knife crime or murder murders and even burglaries in your think is probably your house, i think is probably not right because the shops, they can insure themselves. they do calculate the amount of wastage , which is another word wastage, which is another word often for shoplifting that goes on in it. and i can't myself see that this would be a priority , that this would be a priority, although it might be the subject, as i say, of specific short term interventions to try and show people they will get caught and punished. >> david i think what daniel is failing to recognise is that the two kinds of shoplifting , one failing to recognise is that the two kinds of shoplifting, one is the kind of casual slip it into your pocket or whatever , which your pocket or whatever, which of course has been enormously

facilitated by automatic checkout and whatever, and the removal of a direct person to person connection. >> it's all been part of the depersonalisation of so much service and so much business. but what the co—op, if we look at this carefully, is talking aboutis at this carefully, is talking about is something completely different . it is the equivalent, different. it is the equivalent, they call it looting. they are gangs that burst into a shop and do it. in fact , there was a do it. in fact, there was a case, a shop three times in one day in east london. i think the great difficulty of this is they're afraid to say where and they're afraid to say where and they're afraid to say where and they're afraid to say who was doing it. i suspect we can guess. there is unfortunately a deliberate wild west re that has overtaken certain communities. this is why the co—op has been using extra ordinary careful language. and i'm trying to use it now for very obvious reasons, but it is quite clear that in

some areas of london, particularly in other large cities, the contempt for law, the contempt for property is getting to such a stage that as the co—op point out, they will become areas where there are not shops. become areas where there are not shops . it will not be worth shops. it will not be worth keeping them open because of the scale of losses. and i think we really need again to contemplate what this means. i mean, there's already a sense and, you know , already a sense and, you know, all sorts of people have written about this in different contexts that there are certain areas which do become quasi no go areas. and what i think the co—op is trying to do and remember, it's the co—op . this remember, it's the co—op. this is not sainsbury's. this is this is not sainsbury's. this is this is not, you know, some big money grubbing institution . this is grubbing institution. this is this is a body which is affiliated to the labour party , affiliated to the labour party, right? can we just get this clear? is affiliated to the labour party . it has a profound labour party. it has a profound social conscience. it deliberately tries to have stores in areas which are poor,

you know, all of these things. it is highlighting this and it's doing it for a reason . do you doing it for a reason. do you know what we need to recognise it well, you know as well shoplifting , it does affect. shoplifting, it does affect. >> you've seen so many stores haven't you? i think was. was haven't you? i think it was. was it waitrose the other day that was saying should was saying we should love shoplift i missing shoplift as love or am i missing something? you say that people perhaps their perhaps losing their moral conscience. would it's all conscience. i would say it's all about lot of this to do about a lot of this is to do with social media where looting, shoplifting is glorified. they run stores as they run into these stores as they sweep off the shelves . they film sweep off the shelves. they film themselves in their midst doing it. they they get this it. they think they get this kudos because they're going around robbing know around robbing because they know that do anything that nobody will do anything because security because you try being a security guard laying your mitt on guard and laying your mitt on one of these people, they'll love you in that court. done for assault quicker than a quick thing from quick land. all thing from quick land. it's all a isn't it? but what a mess, isn't it? but what is the answer? you me. i want the answer? you tell me. i want to on quickly, i may, to to move on quickly, if i may, to another law and order story, because one because i found this one absolutely fascinating. you'll be familiar, perhaps, with the story malkinson. story of andrew malkinson. he malkinson been

malkinson sorry. he has been released prison after 20 released from prison after a 20 year fight for justice. 17 years after he was convicted. his conviction was overturned. fresh dna evidence basically linked somebody else to the crime. so he is now a free man. hopefully some compensate will be coming his way. but the thing that i find quite interesting, daniel and i confess i didn't know this before, when you are wrongfully put into prison for a period of time , and if you do indeed get time, and if you do indeed get compensation , then there is a compensation, then there is a situation where you can have a potential deduction to cover the costs of your , i quote, board costs of your, i quote, board and lodgings for the duration that you've been incarcerated . that you've been incarcerated. and what do you think to that? well i think it sounds completely bonkers, but i think you've got to be a little bit careful because as i understand it, this money that's the it, this is money that's the prison service is entitled to effectively the government i >> -- >> the compensation is coming from government . what from the government. and what i understand and is that the compensation is calculated covid to take account of that deduction. now you could do it

in another way and you'd say, well, don't mix it up. with the compensation came the compensation came the compensation and pay the prison service separately. but then he'd get smaller compensation. that's the of that's the that's the logic of it. so i think you need to be careful how much of this is a mad accountant running his figures in a certain way and how much of is a genuine much of it is a genuine injustice and i think that needs a bit more looking into before we get to on our high horse about it. >> what do you make today? about it. >> i thinko you make today? about it. >> i think thatj make today? about it. >> i think that there's today? about it. >> i think that there's another much bigger question in this. this man was sentenced a this man was sentenced to a minimum of seven years. he spends this extraordinary amount of time in jail because he won't admit that he did a crime, that he didn't do. and this is a profound perversion of our system of justice that it requires you to be released to admit that what you did , in admit that what you did, in other words, it penalises the innocent, it penalises the man who suffered monstrous injustice. i think this is an utter scandal. again it's the manchester police riddled with

corruption from top to bottom . corruption from top to bottom. and in these cases , i think that and in these cases, i think that the entire process of compensation are profoundly inadequate. but what they should involve , of course, is the involve, of course, is the police who've been involved being stripped of their pensions and everything else that they've acquired. i mean, you know, again, this has been something we were talking about the whole business of. coutts bank and whatever, and we are if you compare america , if you compare compare america, if you compare ireland and you look at what was done to the bankers after the financial crisis of 2008, many of them went to jail and they went to jail correctly and they should have done and they suffered terrible financial penalties as well. nobody paid anything . even fred goodwin, who anything. even fred goodwin, who drove natwest into the ground, emerged with his pension rights and his share options. absolutely intact. this is intolerable. >> i hear you. and i'm sure many people will agree. >> of course, the police force would say they're not here to

defend themselves. they would argue, by the way, that they're not from top to bottom not riddled from top to bottom with corruption or whatever the wording was. that's david's opinion. to opinion. so when it comes to board lodgings costs, i do board and lodgings costs, i do often myself, if you often ponder to myself, if you do and commit crimes and all do go and commit crimes and all the of it and you do, you the rest of it and you do, you have to go and live courtesy of her majesty's prison or sorry, his majesty's why his majesty's prison. why shouldn't pay shouldn't you have to pay back some of board and lodgings some form of board and lodgings when you get a job in when you work, you get a job in prison, can't you? you can work. >> and sorry. this man is sorry. >> and sorry. this man is sorry. >> man has suffered a >> this man has suffered a monstrous injustice and i'm talking about when you have been guilty. >> i'm on about this. >> i'm on about this. >> oh, no, no, no. of course. of course. no, sorry. sorry. i was. i was. i was forgiving. no, i'm just saying. no, absolutely. >> completely. >> i agree completely. >> i agree completely. >> you're >> i'm saying when you're a guilty criminal, not this guy. >> even i wouldn't go back in there, charge him again. but what saying these what i'm saying is, for these people that guilty and have people that are guilty and have been when been guilty of crimes, when you're in and get your you're in and you get your wages, prison money, wages, your prison money, whatever want to call it, whatever you want to call it, why isn't deduction why isn't there a deduction taken for their board and lodgings? to be fair, michel, you're

>> to be fair, michel, you're not actually paid market wages quite in prison. what quite working in prison. so what what for you as what is left over for you as cash from working prison is cash from working in prison is just pocket pocket. just pocket money. pocket. >> oh, these lefties. >> oh, these lefties. >> i say when i say the >> what can i say when i say the one you can't accuse one thing you can't accuse either being is either of us is being is a lefty, is saying, i'm teasing. >> right. look, i'll tell you, is a lefty keir starmer and you won't your when you won't believe your ears when you hear had say. hear what he's had to say. finally we say what a woman is. me. two year been able me. my two year old's been able to say this for quite some time, but keir starmer has finally caught you his caught up. i'll give you his answer couple of minutes

hello there. this is dewbs& co michelle dewberry tells 7:00 live here in the house of lords, daniel moylan and historian and broadcaster david starkey . lots broadcaster david starkey. lots of love for these two through the inbox tonight . speaking of the inbox tonight. speaking of shoplifting, jackie in middlesbrough she says, we've lost our co—op through theft. michelle she goes on to talk about the shopping precinct

where she says all of where she lived. she says all of the there, including the the shops there, including the charity have been subject charity shop, have been subject to the theft. i mean, you've got to the theft. i mean, you've got to be a special kind of scumbag , basically to go robbing charity shops like charity. i don't condone shoplifting anyway, by the way, before i get myself into trouble. but charity shops who goes around doing that appalling , if you ask me. lots appalling, if you ask me. lots of people are saying that the police just do not want to know when to prioritising when it comes to prioritising shoplifting. but the grand shoplifting. but in the grand scheme things, they scheme of things, should they be or other things to or are they other things to focus on? i'll talk you through what want to focus in what i want to focus on in a minute. are you all sitting down? are you comfortable? i don't want you to have a funny turn because is. you ready? turn because is. are you ready? a has occurred. a miracle has occurred. >> look, firstly, a woman is an aduu >> look, firstly, a woman is an adult female. so let's clear that up. pahlic darling . hallelujah. >> hallelujah . y'all >> hallelujah. y'all >> hallelujah. y'all >> oh, goodness gracious me. can you believe that? a miracle i told you, wasn't i a miracle has occurred. he's finally managed to say with a straight face,

something that literally my two year old could probably have told him. someone said. phil says he just needed a night out with a whole woman. many, many years ago. keir starmer. and that have put him on the that would have put him on the right phil. right track, says phil. >> i think are >> you see, i think you are missing a terrible trick here. >> it? we what >> what is it? we should. what we should doing, michelle? we we should be doing, michelle? we should asking how after so should be asking how after so many years and months, he's actually to this conclusion actually come to this conclusion is as result of is it as a result of investigation, did he did he use the mps of the labour party as a representative sample? well, if you remember before he said 99% of women did not have a penis. now how was he able to eliminate the 1% that did? i mean, seriously , this shows a man who seriously, this shows a man who has no principle , a man who will has no principle, a man who will say anything that he thinks will get him into downing street, a man on whose word you cannot rely and just it repeatedly at the moment we're seeing this with starmer. everybody is sort of trying to draw the contrast between boris johnson and

starmer. there's a single difference between them. boris smiles when he lies still, armour scowls. cool. >> blimey . >> blimey. >> blimey. >> harsh words, daniel. thoughts >> harsh words, daniel. thoughts >> well, i think the big question is how long is it going to last? i mean, he changes his opinion. so frequently. could we have him back on the screen in a few months saying something else ? i mean, he he had so many left wing policies in order to get elected leader of the labour party. if you open the guardian now, which i do occasionally, but only three copies swoon , and but only three copies swoon, and you read the commentators in the guardian , all the ones who guardian, all the ones who thought he'd be a great leader of labour party, they've all of the labour party, they've all turned everybody on turned against him. everybody on the turned against the left has turned against him because his because he's changed his policies. you can't believe , as policies. you can't believe, as david a word he says, david says, a word he says, there is no principle there at all. and i just i just wonder and this is so obviously self—seeking and if it suited him to change his opinion in a few months time, he would . few months time, he would. that's the problem.

>> yeah. and of course, you've seen that kind of u—turn, whatever you want to it, in whatever you want to call it, in terms how easy it should to terms of how easy it should to be self id. and i've got say be self id. and i've got to say for me personally, as a woman, yes, i am woman . i yes, i am indeed a woman. i think evidence i know think that evidence i know i think that evidence i know i think i'm not daniel. i'm calling you daniel. david, it's not even 7:00. there will be no evidence provided . you'll just evidence provided. you'll just have take my for it have to take my word for it anyway. for me personally, as a female, as woman, this is one female, as a woman, this is one of most important to of the most important topics to cross . the political kind of cross. the political kind of land scape at the moment, because i do not want a man in a dress telling me that he is a woman in my space. i likewise do not want my little boy to be indoctrinated to believe that if he decides that he's actually a little girl , then don't you little girl, then don't you worry about that. >> we'll give you waves, a magic wand and puts a skirt on with a little skirt style it honestly. >> so you see, i think there's something even bigger. it is. do we actually believe that there are called objective are things called objective facts or not? and it is

perfectly clear that the left disbelieves in a notion of objective fact. and what you're seeing with starmer is this kind of awkward nudging towards it. we know, of course, he doesn't really believe in balanced budgets. they believe that money comes from the sky. that's why he backed corbyn. that's that's why he was in bed with the whole of that absurd business. that's why, you know, rachel reeves has been producing this extra ordinary charm offensive with the city. and the fools have bought into it. >> that's right. from you, daniel. >> fools . >> fools. >> fools. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think anyone who takes starmer's word and believes it's going to be translated into action has plenty of reason and experience for believing that actually not going to be the case. and they are fools to think it's so. >> yeah. i tell you, i >> yeah. i can tell you, i honestly i find such honestly i find this such a serious. don't get me started because farage is up next. because nigel farage is up next. and on to this topic, and once i get on to this topic, honestly, i you talk about honestly, i do you talk about objective facts. by the way, if we start saying that actually a man a woman versa, man is a woman and vice versa, i always worry, well, where do you

draw the then? draw the line then? >> because there a line. >> because there isn't a line. will it be next? >> a grown man who reckons that actually he's a teenager actually inside he's a teenager and wants be a and therefore wants to be in a school and people will just sit and therefore wants to be in a schooandd people will just sit and therefore wants to be in a schoo and justople will just sit and therefore wants to be in a schooand just go; will just sit and therefore wants to be in a schooand just go alongjust sit and therefore wants to be in a schoo and just go along with;it and therefore wants to be in a schooand just go along with it. there and just go along with it. so the dirt cause the not on my watch, i can tell you anyway. look, penny says this has look, penny says that this has been highlight day. been the highlight of her day. we lots of we appreciate that. lots of people well getting in touch people as well getting in touch about your point about about what your point about people the top on a people rising to the top on a background of failure and them not appreciating look not appreciating it anyway. look time lots of time has flown. lots of compliments from you guys. you did great job emailing did a great job in emailing about different about yourself on different email work, but email addresses. good work, but i've enjoyed the show. i've really enjoyed the show. i've really enjoyed the show. i've company of i've enjoyed your company and of course your company course i've enjoyed your company at do not go anywhere at home too. do not go anywhere because farage is up next because nigel farage is up next and something tells me that he will have a little bit to say when it comes to the whole banking situation. he's out and about . so go about as well. so don't go anywhere see you anywhere and i'll see you tomorrow night . tomorrow night. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news .

weather on gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. that's been a fair amount of cloud around today and we are holding on to that into the overnight period as well. a lot of cloudy skies, some clear spells trying to poke their way through. the cloud their way through. but the cloud definitely the dominating weather variable. the cloud will be some be thick enough for some outbreaks of drizzle throughout the longer spells of the night. some longer spells of rain scotland as rain for north—east scotland as well ireland. well for northern ireland. southwest scotland. a few clearer and clearer spells developing and it's temperatures it's here where temperatures will down little bit will drop down a little bit more. elsewhere underneath more. but elsewhere underneath that it is going be that cloud, it is going to be another night, no another humid, muggy night, no lower 16 c in some lower than 15, 16 c in some towns. cities. it's this towns. and cities. but it's this fresher air that's filtering in from southwest that will from the southwest that will also steadily progress its way eastwards day. eastwards throughout the day. and allow the and that's going to allow the cloud break up a lot more cloud to break up a lot more compared to what we saw throughout so more in throughout today. so more in the way of those brighter and sunnier developing. still sunnier spells developing. still a showers a scattering of showers generally. side, generally. on the lighter side, most for parts most persistent for parts of northern temperatures northern ireland, temperatures in sunnier spots between in those sunnier spots between 20 and 24 c into the weekends.

there are attention to there are attention turns to this pressure that's this area of low pressure that's going to be slowly pushing its way from the north—west. so way in from the north—west. so things unsettled. things turning more unsettled. again, fronts again, those occluded fronts bringing showers bringing bands of showers our way. of those could turn way. some of those could turn heavy with hail and heavy with some hail and thunderstorms the mixture. thunderstorms in the mixture. perhaps for perhaps more persistently for northern of northern ireland. parts of northwest saturday. northwest scotland on saturday. still some sunny spells in between those showers, but the breeze will picking up for breeze will be picking up for all and quite blustery all of us. and quite a blustery day to come, remaining unsettled throughout the rest of the weekend the start of weekend and into the start of the new working week as well. enjoy your evening. bye bye. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news

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is farage at large. live from barrie. please welcome your host, nigel farage. well, we're here in bury greater manchester with a very as classic audience. >> it's going to be a great show. a lot to talk about the kooks. >> we're going to be joined by some great guests. i'll be joined by the local conservative member of parliament, james daly i >> -- >> i'll be joined by john raftery, one of the men to help save bury football club . save bury football club. >> and joining me to talking pints, it's going to be big ron atkinson . but before all of that atkinson. but before all of that , let's get the news with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> nigel, thank you and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom. the ceo of coutts bank, peter flavell , has stepped bank, peter flavell, has stepped down with immediate effect. its interim boss said the

resignation was