large. live from is farage at large. live from barrie. please welcome your host, nigel farage. well, we're here in bury greater manchester with a very as classic audience. >> it's going to be a great show. a lot to talk about the kooks. >> we're going to be joined by some great guests. i'll be joined by the local conservative member of parliament, james daly i >> -- >> i'll be joined by john raftery, one of the men to help save bury football club . save bury football club. >> and joining me to talking pints, it's going to be big ron atkinson . but before all of that atkinson. but before all of that , let's get the news with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> nigel, thank you and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom. the ceo of coutts bank, peter flavell , has stepped bank, peter flavell, has stepped down with immediate effect. its interim boss said the

resignation was agreed by mutual consent and is the right decision for coutts. and the wider group. mr flavell says that in the handling of mr faraj's case the bank could fallen below the high standards of personal service. he's also said he bears full responsibility for the poor handung responsibility for the poor handling of the farage case. in response to his resignation, farage says it was only a matter of time. it follows the resignation of former ceo of the natwest group, dame alison rose, who could be in line for a £5 million pay off if british gas owner centrica has revealed that earnings at its gas and electric supply arm have soared . by 889% supply arm have soared. by 889% to £969 million in the six months to june. shadow climate secretary ed miliband says the scale of the profit showed that the money isn't being reinvest ed into energy production and is instead being funnelled back to shareholders. but the prime minister insists that energy companies windfall profits are

being taxed to support consumers helping to pay around half of a typical family's energy bill, a tram operators have been fined a total of £14 million over the croydon derailed , which killed croydon derailed, which killed seven people. many more were injured when a tram carrying 69 people derailed near the sandilands stop in november 2016. transport for london and tram operations limited have accepted failing in their health and safety duties . mrjustice and safety duties. mrjustice fraser told the court this was undoubtedly an accident waiting to happen . the home office's to happen. the home office's routine housing of unaccompanied child asylum seekers in hotels has been ruled unlawful by a high court . has been ruled unlawful by a high court. the charity every child protected against trafficking launched legal action after claiming the arrangements are not fit for purpose . it was ruled unlawful purpose. it was ruled unlawful as the power to place the children in hotels may be used on very short periods in true emergency situations . as an aid.

emergency situations. as an aid. finally, no medical cause has been given for the death of irish singer sinead o'connor, who was found unresponsive at her home in london yesterday. an autopsy will be conducted with the results expected to take several weeks. the 56 year old's death is not being treated as suspicious as tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. you're with gb news. now it's back to . farage good evening. i'm here tonight in bury from the outskirts of david manchester with a live audience and under the fair bit to talk about . to talk about. >> i guess i have to begin tonight by talking about the natwest cuts saga. >> as we know . alison rose dame

>> as we know. alison rose dame alison rose stood down yesterday and this morning we got the announcement that the chief executive officer of coutts bank one, mr peter flavell , had one, mr peter flavell, had resigned as well . another senior resigned as well. another senior bank director gone . but. they bank director gone. but. they don't say , don't say i didn't don't say, don't say i didn't warn you after my account was closed down without any reason given. i contacted flavell as the boss to say what the hell is going on.7 i've been with this banking group 43 years. i've banking group for 43 years. i've never caused problems. never caused you any problems. he didn't even have the courtesy to give me a reply. he just got a senior staff member to ring me a senior staff member to ring me a few weeks later in early may. i sent him this email which you can now see on your tv screens and i said, thank you for getting camilla snell to contact me, etcetera . i said, at the me, etcetera. i said, at the moment i can't find any bank accounts and therefore on the day that you close me out, i

will turn up at the bank with a security van and collect the money in cash from you . i look money in cash from you. i look forward to meeting you. now if that wasn't a warning, forward to meeting you. now if that wasn't a warning , then that wasn't a warning, then unless we sorted something sensible out, i was going to go public. i don't know what is. and yet . do you know what he and yet. do you know what he chose to ignore me. whether he underestimated me, whether, frankly, he's so rich and arrogant, he simply couldn't care less. i don't know. but it strikes me as being right that he has gone. he's treated me as a customer with total and utter contempt. i wonder how many others are in the same category . tomorrow morning at 7 am, we will get the natwest half yearly figures. the banks , you know the figures. the banks, you know the ones, the ones that you, the taxpayer, bailed out when they were in trouble because of their greed and stupidity . the banks greed and stupidity. the banks last year made £35 billion in profits. they're on course to make even more profit this year. so no doubt we'll see some good figures for natwest . but then at figures for natwest. but then at 930, sir howard davies, the

chairman of the natwest group, will have to face investors . i will have to face investors. i would reckon there'll be a number of investors not very happy with his performance. not very happy with that astonishing statement that we saw on tuesday where they said, yeah, you know what.7 alison rose has broken the most basic principle of banking, but we stand behind her decision only to reconvene in another board meeting six hours later and to get rid of her. his job is to ensure the good governance of the bank. i'd be very surprised if he survives tomorrow, but this is broadening out way beyond. coutts and natwest because today barclays bank put out their figures and they had an investor call and every single question that was faced with the directors was is about banking and the banking scandal that i'm involved in this industry is starting to run scared and do you know what so it should rather than just being

banks this illness this this disease has swept through corporate britain woke corporatism suddenly they're all about values. they're all about showing the world what lovely people they are . they're all people they are. they're all about telling everybody how inclusive they provided, of inclusive they are provided, of course you agree with them. if you don't agree with them, you are excluded , you are abused, are excluded, you are abused, you are excommunicate , hated you are excommunicate, hated press in the last few days is a waking up to this banking should be about banking, not becoming the moral arbiters for everybody else, but in their haste to get rid of people and in their desire to close cash out of the system, they have gone around this country and closed down the accounts of tens of thousands of innocent people . none of the big innocent people. none of the big time international drug money launderers get caught. but men and women all around this country have been horribly and unfairly treated. and i would say this to the banking industry and to the regulator. don't

underestimate me. i mean, this we are going to fight and get justice for all of these wrong people. i'm going to launch that website in a couple of days time and i'll ask anybody whose bank account has been suspended, whose bank account has been closed in touch with me . closed to get in touch with me. and we're going to form a very, very powerful group. we're very powerful lobby group. we're going the rules on going to get the rules on banking we're going to going to get the rules on banthe| we're going to going to get the rules on banthe politics we're going to going to get the rules on banthe politics outie're going to going to get the rules on banthe politics out of'e going to going to get the rules on banthe politics out of banksg to get the politics out of banks and building societies. don't underestimate me. just watch me over the course of the next few months . now now over the course of the next few months. now now . this problem . months. now now. this problem. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> this problem has been bubbung >> this problem has been bubbling away for some time . an bubbling away for some time. an incident took place a few months ago. just have a look at this on your screens. and this was a tweet that was put out by a lancashire lad and his name is warren richmond. and he got a really rather unpleasant response back . it was all about

response back. it was all about the badges in the halifax building society . he having building society. he having pronouns probably knowing most banks interchangeable pronouns depending on what day of the week that it was. and warren stood up and said he didn't think very much of this at and they responded by saying, we strive for inclusion , equality strive for inclusion, equality and quite simply in doing what's right. if you disagree with our values , you're welcome to close values, you're welcome to close your account. well, warren richmond joins me now . richmond joins me now. >> well, they backed down very quickly when i said i'm going to have to take my overdraft elsewhere . elsewhere. >> but this was the first time i'd seen somebody close down the values . you see, i was the same. values. you see, i was the same. i didn't align on with the banks values. how did you feel when you were treated like this .7 you were treated like this? >> i think it's very shabby. i

just feel that these companies , just feel that these companies, these government departments, should concentrate on what they've been set up to do. i have no problem with companies making profits because that's what they should do. what i do have an objection to is companies who we've got pension funds, invest with them. fryston away money with on blm month and all these gimmicks just so they can say, look at me how wonderful i am. virtue signalling, virtue signalling. >> yeah. do you think warren and i was when i saw your case, it was part of that thought process that in the end made me go pubuc that in the end made me go public on my situation . an do public on my situation. an do you think we can turn this tide around? >> well, we can, but it goes deeper than the government departments and the corporates . departments and the corporates. it starts with the government that rolling back on this nonsensical environmental, social and governance which augned social and governance which aligned with the likes of stonewall, who are nothing but flat track bullies by saying to

people, if you don't go along with this, you're a racist. yeah. and i'm sick to death of being called a racist because i have the temerity to take part in a democratic vote. when i was asked do you wish to stay in the eu ? yeah. and i'm branded eu? yeah. and i'm branded a racist because of that. well, 17.4 million people are not racist. they just want to be governed by the people who they voted for . voted for. >> well, i've got to tell you, warren, you've just spoken up for those 17.4 million. ladies and gentlemen, give him a hand for his guts and his courage. >> thank you very much . and you >> thank you very much. and you see, there are a around the country , there are tens of country, there are tens of thousands of people like warren, and they don't want to be bullied by these nasty corporations. >> now we're here in bury. it's one of those towns where the result of the next election will tell us whether we get a labour or conservative government. back in the early 80s, the big

thatcher landslide, both of these seats went conservative for of the intervening these seats went conservative for they've1e intervening these seats went conservative for they've1eint4labour.i these seats went conservative for they've1e int> well, it's 105, nigel. >> i love all of them. >> i love all of them. >> well, i'm sure they all had christmas cards . james yeah, it christmas cards. james yeah, it is literally a very thin majority . we have, if you majority. we have, if you believe , of the latest polling believe, of the latest polling in the so—called red wall where we are , labour are 18 points we are, labour are 18 points ahead and polling is not always accurate . you've, you've accurate. you've, you've highlight one particular issue very strongly . we're a long way very strongly. we're a long way from dover here and yet you believe that the impact of what's happening in the english channelis what's happening in the english channel is really upsetting this

town. yeah i think it's upsetting the country. >> i think we want a fair immigration system. i think what politicians forget the brexit vote the 2019 general vote and the 2019 general election in favour of election was a vote in favour of a certain principles and a certain set of principles and when people talk to me about the brexit they get very brexit vote, they get very highfalutin terms about, you know, sorts to me know, all sorts of things to me and thousands of doors that and the thousands of doors that i knocked on prior to 2017. it was prior to the brexit vote. it was prior to the brexit vote. it was immigration. we was about immigration. and we have to have an immigration policy fair , but that is policy that is fair, but that is reflective concerns of reflective of the concerns of the that i represent. the people that i represent. >> i keep hearing that, but not much seems to change, does it? >> think the this prime >> well, i think the this prime minister doing that we minister is doing things that we should 3 or 4 years should have done 3 or 4 years ago.the should have done 3 or 4 years ago. the illegal migration bill is very much a step the right is very much a step in the right direction. have got some direction. we have got some challenges of challenges in respect of migration i think migration numbers where i think we would challenges one point. >> i'm a politician. >> nigel, i'm a politician. >> nigel, i'm a politician. >> 1.2 million people were >>1.2 million people were allowed to come and settle here last year. yeah. >> we probably >> and there's we probably haven't enough go haven't got enough time to go into reasons that. but into the reasons for that. but i think whatever they vote in think that whatever they vote in brexit and in 2019 general

brexit and in the 2019 general election, wasn't to increase election, it wasn't to increase the level. the population to that level. and i there are and therefore i think there are ways which in the ongoing debate with the government we can with the government where we can bnng with the government where we can bring down and try bring those numbers down and try my end of the day is my job at the end of the day is to highlight and stay what to highlight to and stay what a lot of people in my constituency believe, what i believe. you know, there's of in know, there's lots of people in here who aren't just from bury. know, there's lots of people in here whfrom n't just from bury. know, there's lots of people in here whfrom northern'om bury. know, there's lots of people in here whfrom northern towns. y. they're from northern towns. i've talking some guy i've been talking to some guy from it's the same from burnley. it's the same everywhere. nigel and that's what me are to what people like me are here to do, to forward that voice. do, to put forward that voice. we're a million miles away from westminster. million westminster. we're a million miles the decision miles away from the decision makers i'm makers down there. i'm not talking the government talking about the government necessarily. i'm talking about some the things you're some of the things you're talking know, these talking about. you know, these value alleged driven value alleged value driven organisation, the organisation, things like the bbc, banks. they're bbc, like these banks. they're trying impose way being trying to impose a way of being a of thinking, a set of a way of thinking, a set of values which a lot of people in my area are completely and utterly it needs utterly alien. and so it needs mps me. at least i may not mps like me. at least i may not be for very much longer, be here for very much longer, but for the time that but the time for the time that i'm here, i'd like speak out i'm here, i'd like to speak out and say what think is and to say what i think is correct and what i think is best for the people that i represent. yeah, no.

>> well, the right thing. >> well, that's the right thing. it's what should it's exactly what mps should do. this issue you as this banking issue have you as an had examples of your own an mp had examples of your own constituents suffering through the banks? the actions of the banks? >> not not not in the >> i haven't. not not not in the sense of what you've been talking about, but it is genuinely appalling. i mean, when get the situation when we get into the situation where views where somebody political views are a bank, are shaping whether a bank, whether account is whether a bank account is offered we're in offered to them or not, we're in a world. you know, if a dystopian world. you know, if people are in have beliefs people are in or have beliefs which are not against law, which are not against the law, what on earth is it for any organisation to judge people on those public those beliefs? these are public companies. it is complete insanity. what i do agree insanity. and what i do agree with completely is woke with you completely is this woke capitalism, this trying capitalism, this this trying to impose values that impose a set of values that matters also making matters more whilst also making billions at the same time and giving huge huge giving themselves huge and huge bonuses but bonuses and pay rises. but trying that if you don't trying to say that if you don't believe in if you are a brexit supporter, if you don't believe in of the net zero in the whole of the net zero stuff, if you believe in stuff, if you don't believe in climate change, if you don't believe of these believe in in all of these things, somehow know not things, you somehow know not worthy in worthy of taking part in the national debate. lot national debate. there's a lot of people in my constituency who have real concerns about all of those i want to go to

those issues. if i want to go to somebody for values, i'll probably an archbishop, probably go to an archbishop, but not the archbishop but probably not the archbishop of but, but, but this one. >> but, but, but, but this one. >> but, but, but, but this one. >> certainly going. >> but i'll be certainly going. you the idea banks you know, the idea that banks can lecture a certain can lecture anybody on a certain set principles and morals set of principles and morals that you have to by to that you have to abide by to give you a bank, your bank account is in. we're in a very, very strange world. >> pan very strange world. >> part of the fightback >> are you part of the fightback ? because we have to ? because i think we have to fight against don't fight back against this, don't we always part of the fight back? >>i back? >> i mean. i mean, every single week every single day, there week and every single day, there are are turning are new issues that are turning up next general election. up the next general election. quite , people have quite rightly, people have criticised of criticised my party in terms of some things that we've some of the things that we've done, but some of the major social issues that are going to define our country for decades going forward. that's what's at stake next general stake at the next general election. in terms of you, election. and in terms of you, you and others, highlighting you and others, you highlighting what's this is what's happened to you, this is so, important. the labour so, so important. the labour party very quiet, party were very, very quiet, nigel, quiet in terms nigel, very, very quiet in terms of terms what happened to of in terms of what happened to you. we're getting a you. and if we're getting to a situation we see on social situation where we see on social media, on the nigel media, people on the left, nigel think the, the actions or a think that the, the actions or a lot of on the left think

lot of people on the left think the actions of bank were the actions of the bank were just defied because they don't like that is that we're like you and that is that we're in very bad situation if in a very, very bad situation if that's no i agree with that's the case. no i agree with you sir. >> keir starmer, did come out and say what was done to me was wrong, but that was after like everything that was three everything else that was three weeks later, wasn't it, captain? hindsight, some would say. james daly, very much indeed daly, thank you very much indeed for us. the game tonight. >> in a moment, we'll talk about bury fc , a football that bury fc, a football club that looked to be dead but is now back. looked to be dead but is now back . and it's a good news story i >> -- >> we need more of them. see you in a minute . in a minute. >> sorry .

radio. >> you want television, you listen to radio and nearly everything that we get is a bad

news story . news story. >> it's kind of like good news doesn't really make news. well, right now, good news is going to make news because this town has had its football club for many, many years. not so long ago, it went bust. it looked to be all oven went bust. it looked to be all over, but it has been saved. yes. bury fc over, but it has been saved. yes. bury ec is going to survive . and representing the supporters club tonight with me is john raftery. supporters club tonight with me is john raftery . john, welcome is john raftery. john, welcome to brook. thank you , nigel. to brook. thank you, nigel. >> so . first things first. >> so. first things first. >> so. first things first. >> yes , bury are known as the >> yes, bury are known as the shakers. yes the most unusual name for a football team. no it's shakers. >> we always pride ourselves on being the small club, if you like. you know the and our chairman. i'm under this. all years ago , we played the big years ago, we played the big boys and he shouted out from the line, shake him up. shakers make him do it. and we've been fighting for the small clubs all the time . good. and that's how the time. good. and that's how we get our well, i'm fighting for the small people against the big at the moment, so big banks at the moment, so we've something common on

we've got something in common on that one. >> and jumping . >> and jumping. >> and jumping. >> so the club have been around a long time. very, yeah, very important part. of course, as with all these communities, it really matters, doesn't it? of course . coui'se. >> course. >> of course. it was an absolute travesty through no fault of the supporters when our club your your. inaugurated in 1885. all that history the ground of gigg lane all that history the people go in you know families meeting all throughout general sessions. many, many generations all gone. >> and of course , this town, >> and of course, this town, i mean, maybe not the football club itself, they never quite reached the top. but this town itself, a hotbed of producing international footballers . international footballers. >> yeah, without a doubt. you know, colin bell, gary neville of course. phil neville , you of course. phil neville, you know, a fair bit within you know, a fair bit within you know, just, just full of them. kieran trippier late, late, all that, yeah. england play at ramsbottom lad. >> all that. yeah >> all that. yeah >> no, i mean you've >> no, no, i mean you've produced great footballers so what what wrong? why what wrong, what went wrong? why did bust? did it go bust? >> gold is right. no, no ,

>> royal gold is right. no, no, no. from the english no. governments from the english football league . we knew some football league. we knew some stuff was going on. everybody knew in football within there, but just let it happen. know but it just let it happen. know they just came to a collision one day, you know, and basically their supporters had no choice on that these remote people right let the small club the town of bury down and just kicked us out of the league. >> how did you save it? >> how did you save it? >> we saved it by a couple of things . we a split, if you things. we had a split, if you like, fan base, right? very quickly on that, about a third of our supporters john lydon afc right. and you know , another right. and you know, another group, james daly , was group, james daly, was instrumental in this in buying the ground back with the government support within there. so the government a year ago the government actually helped. absolutely yes. yeah that's good news story. absolutely yes. yeah that's good nevthat»ry. good news story. >> that is a good news story. >> that is a good news story. >> here we are now, one year >> so here we are now, one year after purchasing gigg lane again and less than 36 hours, we're playing a football back at gigg lane again and selling tickets.

selling tickets . i've been there selling tickets. i've been there today actually taking prior to people coming down, paying cash. right >> oh, don't tell them that they paid cash for that. >> you like that ? >> you like that? >> you like that? >> but the older generation are not internet related , things not internet related, things like that, you know, so they want the help within there. >> and it's great. it's a great news story. they're actually emotional tears in their eyes. you're you're looking quick trip around and everybody's around gigg lane and everybody's welcome it's going to welcome down there it's going to be i think going to be a be i think it's going to be a sell on saturday it's sell out on saturday and it's great title. we actually great for the title. we actually for local economy as well. for the local economy as well. it's fantastic. and we're going to play prestwich local to play prestwich heys, local and united , right? and ramsbottom united, right? and all the people there, and then all the people there, the trade will do really well. >> well, john, i want to say well done to you , well done to well done to you, well done to the government for once, for helping to helping and well done to the town bury. you've saved your town of bury. you've saved your football club it is a really football club and it is a really good news story. congratulations thank. you . thank. thank you. thank you. >> there's a great story . okay. >> there's a great story. okay. in a minute . i

>> there's a great story. okay. in a minute. i have five members of the audience and they're all sitting here and in a moment, they're going to start to fire some questions at me. >> it is the barrage, the farage round coming up after the break, go

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. okay it's now the turn for the audience . audience. >> it's the barrage of barrage round depher questions that me i have no idea what they're going to ask. >> could get a question about banking, think. you never banking, i think. but you never know. see. elizabeth good know. let's see. elizabeth good evening . evening. >> good evening. welcome to ramey. we've a ramey. thank you. we've got a couple of businesses in ramsbottom. an mma ramsbottom. we've got an mma gym. also have an ai company gym. we also have an ai company as well. and yesterday we took the close down our the decision to close down our natwest accounts . did you in natwest accounts. did you in solidarity . we shut down our solidarity. we shut down our paypal accounts when they closed

down the free speech. we've also stopped using justgiving because of the way they treated the canadian lorry drivers. is this the stuff? yeah. is this the start of the people's movement? can lots of individuals doing little things actually have a big impact ? big impact? >> it needs a lot of individuals doing little things, but each one counts. it's rather like if you asked james daly, you know, the more letters he gets or the more emails he gets from constituents on a subject, he starts think, you know, starts to think, well, you know, actually there's quite a few people out there think this way. yeah, i look, i, i terms yeah, i mean look, i, i in terms of the banked you know, i'm of the de banked you know, i'm going launch website going to launch this website next try and get them next week and try and get them all together become all together for to become a powerful voice. so clearly collectively , we can do more collectively, we can do more than we can individually, but individually, yeah. if lots and lots of us do it, we can make a difference. and clearly, elizabeth, you've taken a very principled on of principled position on all of these do. you've got these things. i do. you've got other bank open? other bank accounts open? >> yes. >> oh, yes. >> oh, yes. >> we've moved this new one >> we've moved to this new one where get the fsc protection

where you get the fsc protection on of them for 85,000. you on all of them for 85,000. you put it all, it's called flagstone. you put it in one and you drop it into all the you just drop it into all the other ones. >> well, there you are. >> right? well, there you are. well, we better have a chat afterwards, no, but afterwards, but no, but no, listen, taken a very listen, you've taken a very principled admire principled position. i admire you for you do. yes, it you for what you do. yes, it does a difference. but it's does make a difference. but it's going a lot a lot more going to need a lot a lot more people and i making a people like you and i making a stand. but i think it can be done.i stand. but i think it can be done. i actually think this tide can turn it women well needs can turn and it women well needs to thank you . okay martin, good to thank you. okay martin, good evening . evening. >> good evening. excuse me. >> good evening. excuse me. >> i'll put my wife's glasses on. that's all right. christian wakeford mp for bury south was elected as tory mp . he then elected as tory mp. he then became a turncoat and being kind saying to hencote and moved over to labour , why didn't you do the to labour, why didn't you do the right thing and resign his seat? it was elected as a labour mp . it was elected as a labour mp. it was elected as a labour mp. it was elected as a labour mp. it was sorry, it was. it wasn't elected as a labour mp, but continued to take his large mp wages and all the perks that come with it. why is it allowed?

why can't we say no? we want a by—election >> i think if you asked james daly for an answer to that, you'd get a very robust one indeed. i'm sure he feels very strongly about, look, you know , strongly about, look, you know, there are times when parties disintegrate it. there are times in history when things change between the moment you get elected and the next election. you know, a war may break out. there may be circumstances in which changing party is acceptable. but this clearly wasn't in any way at all. it was perfectly , perfectly obvious why perfectly, perfectly obvious why he'd won that seat. and again, very small majority, a bit bigger than james is, but not by very much for the constituents who voted him as a conservative. >> really. >> really. >> i know. i know. i know. look, i think it's a disgrace. i think there was a lot of our political system that needs to be amended, that needs to be changed. and we do at least now have the right of recall. well, you know, if an mp wrong and mp has done something wrong and been for a period of been suspended for a period of time, people sign a time, we can the people sign a petition and get a by—election.

that's a step in the right direction. but we're there that's a step in the right dire> should continue to >> why should he continue to serve when he wasn't serve the people when he wasn't elected a labour? elected as a labour? >> mp yeah, no, was >> mp yeah, no, he was celebrated parliament keir celebrated in parliament by keir starmer, wasn't he? >> just i'm sure. >> just for pr, i'm sure. >> just for pr, i'm sure. >> sure many people think >> i'm sure many people think that way. >> how many people in this room think that should have caused think that he should have caused that caused that wakeford should have caused the yeah. the by—election hands up. yeah. yeah much yeah yeah. pretty much everybody. pretty much everybody. yeah pretty much everybody. yeah pretty much everybody. look , martin, everybody. no, no, look, martin, you're right . the you're absolutely right. the fellow's behaved like a complete disgrace. and let's hope he never back into elected never goes back into elected politics ever, ever again . politics ever, ever again. >> okay. next up is andrew. hi >> okay. next up is andrew. hi >> good evening, nigel. it's wonderful to be with you tonight. and thank you for everything you've done for brexit. i'm a huge supporter and admirer and everybody else is in the room. thank you. so thank you. on to the question. yeah yeah, yeah . please if banks are yeah, yeah. please if banks are so concerned with inclusion and

diversity , do you think they diversity, do you think they might be better ensuring that all customers can access their services by considering not closing branches so customers can access banks relatively near to where they live and who do not have access or want to use internet banking and apps rather than snooping on their political views and deciding what is politically acceptable. >> john i think on the snooping or sort of chinese style surveillance that was put on my account but could happen to any of you because if they do and they're talking about doing this using keyword searches on people's social media, well then we become communist china. i mean, then we head towards a social credit system where you can't play a full part in society unless you go along with the accepted wisdom of the day . the accepted wisdom of the day. more generally on the banks, i touched on it earlier. we bailed them out. our taxes went up as a result of it. the reward is to close branches and treat small businesses that take cash with absolute , complete and utter absolute, complete and utter

contempt and to close down tens of thousands of accounts with no good reason whatsoever . i'm good reason whatsoever. i'm going to use this word. it's a scandal . we are living through scandal. we are living through a banking scandal and it's been my honour to blow the lid off it. and to start a national debate on it . john the whole thing is on it. john the whole thing is dreadful and i think we need cultural change within the banks, namely not to be political organisations, campaigning organisation . owens campaigning organisation. owens but i also think we need legislative change. there's a bunch of legislation in that is trying to stop the international drugs gangs from laundering money, all right. and we get that. we know those laws are that. we know why those laws are in place, but they're bad laws . in place, but they're bad laws. they're badly thought through. i watch lots of them come through the european parliament in my in my happy 21 years over there. well, i had more fun than they did. i want well, i had more fun than they did. iwant tell well, i had more fun than they did. i want tell you that. did. i want to tell you that. and it's misapplied in britain with an overzealous level of compliance . and so we need compliance. and so we need legislative change as well to bnng legislative change as well to bring some common sense back in in the system. the banks in into the system. the banks have behaved terribly and i'm

going to make sure, andrew, they don't forget it in a hurry. fantastic >> all right. thank you. okay. next up , john. next up, john. >> good evening, john. >> good evening, john. >> your pleasure. >> your pleasure. >> pleasure to meet you, nigel. it has been muted about you taking some sort of a role in the conservative party. really for, let's face it, they need you. would you be interested in that? and what sort of a role would you like in that? the conservative party would never touch me. >> they'll never have me, even though i've done them a huge amount of good over the course of the last decade. yeah, at times they were scared of me. of the last decade. yeah, at timeactually,ere scared of me. of the last decade. yeah, at timeactually, in scared of me. of the last decade. yeah, at timeactually, in the red of me. of the last decade. yeah, at timeactually, in the end,f me. of the last decade. yeah, at timeactually, in the end, you. but actually, in the end, you know, i mean, you know, a lot of a lot people who voted a lot of people who voted conservative in 2019, a huge number voted or brexit number had voted ukip or brexit party that, and of party prior to that, and some of those were labour people who'd been, their families been, you know, their families had been labour since 1918. and i the gateway drug, no i was i was the gateway drug, no laundering, but i was the gateway drug many of those gateway drug for many of those voters. know , this voters. but no, you know, this

conservative party, you know, there are local mps. i mean, james, i mean, to be fair to james, i mean, to be fair to james, actually up james, does actually stand up and he thinks on and say what he thinks on things, a good thing. things, which is a good thing. but conservative party are but the conservative party are not conservative party. they not a conservative party. they are a big state, high tax, social democrat party. they wouldn't touch me with a bargepole. so john, it ain't going to happen. this side of a general election. and i, i think our choice at the next election is between, you know, what type of social democracy do you want the differences between the two? i don't see as being particularly fundamental. i think the brits being short think the brits are being short changed it. know, brexit changed by it. you know, brexit gave to govern gave us the right to govern ourselves, but it also gave us the mis govern the right to mis govern ourselves. and at the ourselves. and right at the moment the latter appears to moment at the latter appears to be but will sort it be winning. but we will sort it out good time. thank you . out in good time. thank you. >> and . steve >> and. steve >> and. steve >> steve hi nigel. thanks for making the effort to come all the way to berwick. you've obviously got a lot on at the moment. really appreciate that

as all the gang do. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i'd just like to say you beat cancen >> i'd just like to say you beat cancer. yeah you survived being knocked over by a car . you knocked over by a car. you survived a plane crash . survived a plane crash. >> i need a drink. somebody i can't cope with all this . can't cope with all this. >> you survived a plane crash. you took on the european union and won. you took on the uk parliament won and against all the odds. you won the tric award . yeah . now you're taking on the . yeah. now you're taking on the banks. yeah. and you're going to beat them? yes. you're going to make change? yes. for everybody. >> yes. no, i really believe we can. >> yeah, we all do. without a doubt. you you are the people's champion . yes. doubt. you you are the people's champion . yes . surely surely. champion. yes. surely surely. now it's time for some, sir

nigel farage. well, what do you think , nigel? what do you think ? >> 7- >> do ?- >> do you ? >> do you know 7 >> do you know what steve? >> do you know what steve? >> i don't need? i don't need baubles. i don't need bangles . i baubles. i don't need bangles. i don't need honours. i don't need decorations . do you know what decorations. do you know what i get every day when i go about my life? you know, i go to the petrol station or maybe pop in a pub occasionally or whatever it may be, and i get people like you coming up to me and saying, thanks for what you've done. we believe and you know believe in you. and you know what? matters a more to what? that matters a lot more to me than any honour title decoration sitting the decoration or sitting in the house thanks. house of lords. thanks. thanks. thanks the end of thanks okay, that's the end of that in moment, we're that question in a moment, we're going to have talking points and sitting in the chair with me is going be big. ron atkinson . going to be big. ron atkinson. all of that in just a couple of minutes .

okay. well here we are in bury and i'm joined on talking points by big ron atkinson . ron, by big ron atkinson. ron, welcome to the program . well, welcome to the program. well, clearly ron atkinson really rather popular in the greater manchester area. i wonder why. we'll come to that in a moment. now, ron, as a footballer, you were the tank. was this were known as the tank. was this because of your was this because of your subtle style a mate of your subtle style as a mate of your subtle style as a mate of mine said it's because i couldn't turn quickly in the sand. >> i sir, i think it was something to do with the way i played right ? played right? >> yeah. aggressive. >> yeah. aggressive. >> yeah. aggressive. >> yeah . yeah. that surprises >> yeah. yeah. that surprises me. it really does . ron what do me. it really does. ron what do you think about it? >> you know, the career of a professional footballer. it's a very short period of your life, really, isn't it? it is.

>> but, you know, i said i left school at 15. yeah i've never worked since, you know , because, worked since, you know, because, you know, i've had a way of life that i've enjoyed doing . it that i've enjoyed doing. it hasn't been a chore to have to get up and think, oh, i've got to go and do that again today. have i? >> no. and you made that transition into being a manager and successful manager. and and a successful manager. and i think we kind of know what the attributes a player. attributes are of a good player. but what is it that makes a good manager ? manager? >> well, i think basically you've got to have the ability to deal with people. i had two bafic to deal with people. i had two basic principles and one was i would always treat players the way i wanted to be treated as a player. that doesn't mean to say you've got to curry favour with them. sometimes you've got to tell harsh facts and be no tell them harsh facts and be no player could ever play badly for me, providing he was attempting to do the job he may not have always played well. yeah but if he was for argument's sake, say he was for argument's sake, say he was for argument's sake, say he was a striker and he was missing chances, providing he was still going in there to have a go for them, he'd put up with

it . not for too long am a go for them, he'd put up with it. not for too long am i? but those are. those are two basic principles. >> were you a disciplinarian? >> were you a disciplinarian? >> to a certain extent , >> were you a disciplinarian? >> to a certain extent, yeah. there's various ways of discipline . and i didn't want discipline. and i didn't want people coming into training . i people coming into training. i like people to come in with a smile on their face and be enthusiastic and enjoy it . i enthusiastic and enjoy it. i didn't want to make it like a war of attrition when they came in, which does happen in certain clubs. you know, managers and i would sooner have like an hour and a half or an hour and a quarter high intensity. be in fact, one of my coaches once said to me , you're the only said to me, you're the only coach that doesn't believe in breathers. i wanted everything to high tempo from the minute they started till the minute they started till the minute they finished rather than a couple of hours dragging out, you know , i wanted it play or you know, i wanted it play or train and done at a high level and a high intensity. >> now you went on to manage some great clubs, west bromwich

albion. you were the first top flight manager to have three black players in the team, which i remember at the time was a really big deal. and of really big, big deal. and of course, know, manchester course, you know, manchester united, there you are. i mean, what are the biggest football club in in the world? club names in in the world? >> how did that feel? >> how did that feel? >> was great, but you've got >> it was great, but you've got to go back to the fact when i actually left west brom, we actually left west brom, we actually had a much better side than the side i inherited it man—u i mean, people , because of man—u i mean, people, because of the success, i mean, i always say like fergie was there 26 years, i was there five years. and you know , between us we won and you know, between us we won something like 50 trophies. the fact that he won 48 . fact that he won 48. but you dig yourself down because you did have fa cup glory with manchester united. >> you did finish high up in the league and he didn't you didn't

have a bad run there, did you? >> well, when i when i went there, i mean i think from the year they won the european cup in 68 and i think they'd only qualified for europe about three times in that period . times in that period. >> now at west brom, we qualified every year. yeah. and when i went there i said to the chairman, martin edwards, i said, look, we've got to become a european club again. and we did that year. we never did that every year. we never had four. so in that had the top four. so in that respect, we were all right. what we people , i'd only we didn't do, people, i'd only been there three months and somebody said, you know, we've won not the title for 15 years. i said, i've only been here three months and the pressure is real, isn't it? >> yeah, that was the thing. >> yeah, that was the thing. >> they always they always brought know, thing brought up. you know, the thing about title and about winning the title and people say to me, well, what was the reason? why didn't you win it? because we had a good enough team to win it. two two words summed ian rush because summed it up. ian rush because if we'd have had ian rush , we'd if we'd have had ian rush, we'd have yeah have won every year. >> liverpool, yeah, >> and liverpool, yeah, liverpool were pretty good at

the . the time. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> you did win, what, >> you know, you did win, what, five major trophies managing different a great different clubs. you had a great managerial career. different clubs. you had a great managerial career . but when you managerial career. but when you look football now and you look at football now and you look at football now and you look at football now and you look at sport in general, the saudis do have really quite a lot of money. they've effectively bought world golf. i'm not quite sure what the fallout is going to be between the pga tour and live . but now the pga tour and live. but now paying the pga tour and live. but now paying i mean, you know, transfer money for clubs just i mean, you just can't even believe what the numbers are. now, trevor francis, of course, was the first £1 million footballer, wasn't he? yeah and good friend of yours. yeah >> in fact we go back, i actually marked him on his full debut. right. he was a kid of 16. and because he used to say, trevor a lot, you only you hardly had kick . in fact, you hardly had kick. in fact, you only had one kick was the equaliser like and then ironically enough, i was his last manager. i signed him at sheffield wednesday. yeah. come and do like a cameo role for us.

and obviously it was a shock this week when we heard what had happened, but it'll be remembered very fondly. it'll be it'll be remembered particularly well at forest because of the european goal. he scored the winner. but in birmingham he's probably rated the greatest ever player they've ever had. >> yeah, no great player. yeah. as i say, you know, a sad early demise. a £1 million player. but now the saudis , i mean, are the now the saudis, i mean, are the saudis going to ruin football? >> i don't know. i really don't know. i think it depends how competitive they get in their league . i mean, it's like when league. i mean, it's like when the american league first started in the probably the 60s and 70s, a lot of older players went out there as the last payday. yeah now they may well do that. i mean, people are criticising jordan henderson today because he's gone out there and he's, he's earning 700 grand a week. yeah so he must be a mug to you. >> is it too early aren't you.

>> is it too early aren't you. >> no i wouldn't take a cut for anybody . no. but you look at anybody. no. but you look at that i think well just and you'll know this better than me haven't we been dealing with the saudis for years? selling them planes and arms and things like. of course. of course. so why does sport always get singled out when it's something like that as opposed to the general business world? who have been deaung business world? who have been dealing with the saudis? >> no , no, i get that. >> no, no, i get that. >> no, no, i get that. >> i just you know, i just wonder whether in the end, if there's too much money in sport, it can destroy some of the ethos of it. >> well, could do. >> well, it could do. >> well, it could do. >> of course, this is where >> but of course, this is where the italians, spanish , have the italians, the spanish, have been about our been worried about our premiership there's that premiership because there's that much premiership. much money in the premiership. now, they've now, that's true that they've been they've been complaining, but somehow they've but somehow or other they've they've and now they've survived. and now there's another challenge for them where i think the saudis will struggle is they haven't got a competitive enough football league. i mean, it's never going to be compelling viewing, is it? unless they buy

and block manchester city and. >> block well , yeah, and block manchester city and. >> block well, yeah, them. and block manchester city and. >> block well , yeah, them. block >> block well, yeah, them. block yeah.i >> block well, yeah, them. block yeah. i mean, who knows? >> who knows? ron, your tv career, you know, great tv career. and then one horrendous moment , you know, a scene of moment, you know, a scene of foul mouthed abuse, the n word, not good. did that feel like the world was about to fall in upon you? >> uh, it came. you? >> uh, it came . it was well, i >> uh, it came. it was well, i didn't even know it had happened . i know. there's nobody else in this country, so it. it happened . and. but i got over that, you know , i was. you did, but didn't you? >> you did. you did get over it. >> you did. you did get over it. >> yeah, it was wrong . but. and >> yeah, it was wrong. but. and it came at a time in my career when. all right, if had when. all right, if it had happened earlier, knows? but happened earlier, who knows? but it happened. and so i just i got on with things because know on with things because i know what i know what what what i am and i know what what i'm. but i wasn't supposed to be anyway . anyway. >> and it was. but you took some real stick. >> well, it did, but i had a lot of people stick up for me as well. yeah. yeah a lot. >> including including a lot of footballers that

footballers and players that you knew lot of black players. knew a lot of black players. yes, yeah. yeah no, yes, exactly. yeah. yeah no, exactly. exactly. >> moved on from >> you know, i've moved on from that to be fair. nigel that now, to be fair. nigel yeah, i wonder in the modern world whether get it as easily. >> i think we're more judgemental now than were judgemental now than we were then. did. and you go then. but you did. and you go on. >> i was the first. i was the one they set up. >> well, i think they probably were. and on to do all were. and you went on to do all sorts of different things on television. big brother and goodness. do all goodness. why did you do all that for . money that for. money >> you see, the point is, you get them on talking points, you give him a drink and they really will tell you the truth. >> no, you did all those things, but you're still. >> i also made up my mind. i would. i'd be the most i'm considered arguably or easily the most boring person they've ever had on it. because i made up my mind. i'm going to get out as quick as i can and you did. >> and you did. yeah >> and you did. yeah >> and you did. yeah >> and emma will says she's

never seen anybody so happy to get out. >> yeah, i must have. i've been offered it a few times and thus far i have managed to resist. ron, you're still active. you're still busy , you're still getting still busy, you're still getting involved with football, with punst involved with football, with pundits all of pundits, with all sorts of different things . you're sort of different things. you're sort of person that's never really going to why yeah. to retire, are you? why yeah. >> in all fairness and retire from work because like i said, it's never been work . it's just it's never been work. it's just been a great way of life. you know what i do? i play a lot of golf. yeah well, i call it golf , but . but. and golf. yeah well, i call it golf , but. but. and they keep saying, why don't you go and play saying, why don't you go and play with the seniors? because my golfing group are all young lads , younger lads. like, you lads, younger lads. like, you know, i ain't going to play with all they'll be moaning all them. they'll be moaning about hips all about about their hips and all about that. everyone want to talk about. >> yeah, well, ron, you are , i >> yeah, well, ron, you are, i have to say, pretty irrepressible. you've had an amazing career. irrepressible. you've had an amazing career . you've made an amazing career. you've made an impact on a very large number of people in this country, and it's been an absolute pleasure to have you with a live audience

here in bury evening. thank here in bury this evening. thank you. . you. cheers. >> very good . now go to sing us >> very good. now go to sing us out of this program .we've >> very good. now go to sing us out of this program . we've got out of this program. we've got bell and spurling and bell and events have moved so quick this week. >> bell and spurling have rewritten this several times. take it away guys who we've had a resignation from the ceo, but it's really not enough. >> the board have got to go. i knew it was alison rose and now everybody knows who let the leak out, who, who you let the leak out, who, who you let the leak out, you, you , we bought them out, you, you, we bought them out, you, you, we bought them out in the financial crash and now they want to stop us using our cash . you think they would our cash. you think they would thank us, but instead they just blank us. you're all a load of

bankers . hey, hey, hey . bankers. hey, hey, hey. >> cause i. you says just how it is . it's time >> cause i. you says just how it is. it's time to find out. it's time to says just as it is. then we know what it's all about. it's not just always on the ball i >> -- >> who says 5mm >> who says ? how can that be ethical? >> how can that be legal all night? you said this is a massive national scandal . massive national scandal. >> 9 to 6. >>- >> 9 to 6. >> i'm living well, going to find out the truth . is that you find out the truth. is that you for . for. us the temperature's rising . the temperature's rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan

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going to be slowly pushing its way the north—west. so way in from the north—west. so things more unsettled things turning more unsettled again, fronts again, those occluded fronts bringing our bringing bands of showers our way. of those could turn way. some of those could turn heavy with some hail and thunderstorm mixture, thunderstorm in the mixture, perhaps for perhaps more persistently for northern ireland, parts of northwest saturday. northwest scotland on saturday. still some sunny spells in between those showers, but the breeze picking up for breeze will be picking up for all and quite a blustery all of us. and quite a blustery day come, remaining unsettled day to come, remaining unsettled throughout the rest of the weekend into start of weekend and into the start of the working week as well. the new working week as well. enjoy evening. bye bye . enjoy your evening. bye bye. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .

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