gb news. >> hello and welcome to gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . and for radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next few hours , me and my the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is about opinion. it's mine, is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs, and of course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing, we discussing, and at times we will disagree one will be disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me in the cancelled. so joining me in the next hour , broadcaster and next hour, broadcaster and columnist cundy and also columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew lazor . in a few former labour party adviser matthew lazor. in a few moments time, i'll be mucking the week with lewis schaffer. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines . latest news headlines. >> thanks, nana . good afternoon. >> thanks, nana. good afternoon. i'm ray addison. here's the latest at 3:00 from the gb news room. our top story, two motorbikes have been recovered by police investigating a fatal hit and run in walsall.

by police investigating a fatal hit and run in walsall . seven hit and run in walsall. seven year old catless seleznev was taken to hospital in a critical condition following the collision on thursday night, but she died of her injuries. a 14 year old boy was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. he's now been released on bail with strict conditions as enquiries continue . rail services are being disrupted again, with thousands of workers walking off the job over a long running dispute. rmt members at 14 train operating companies are striking over pay and conditions. people are being advised to check before they travel in some areas , only half travel in some areas, only half of services are running, while in others there are none at all. the union's senior assistant general secretary, eddie dempsey, told us there have been no negotiations since april. >> we're out on strike today because we're now coming up to four years without a pay freeze. the government is planning to strip jobs out of strip thousands of jobs out of our and shut down our industry and shut down ticket offices right across the

country . we're looking the country. we're looking at the managed of railway managed decline of the railway and are determined and our members are determined to achieve a fair settlement on pay, to achieve a fair settlement on pay, job security, and they want to terms and to protect their terms and conditions so that's we're conditions. so that's what we're doing haven't had any doing here. we haven't had any negotiate sessions since mid—april, want to get negotiate sessions since mid—lthe , want to get negotiate sessions since mid—lthe table want to get negotiate sessions since mid—lthe table and vant to get negotiate sessions since mid—lthe table and get to get negotiate sessions since mid—lthe table and get ourjet round the table and get our members a deal. they can support. >> delays at the port of dover have been reduced, with holidaymakers up to holidaymakers now waiting up to 45 minutes for french border officials to check their passports . queues have had been passports. queues have had been up to nine lanes wide, with traffic backed up along the a20 almost to folkestone . officials almost to folkestone. officials say almost 17,000 passengers have passed through the port up to midday today. have passed through the port up to midday today . well over in to midday today. well over in the us republican presidential candidates shared the stage for the first time as they fought for support at a rally in iowa . for support at a rally in iowa. one could end up going to prison on despite facing new criminal charges. donald trump was the one to hit out at rival ron desantis, telling the crowd not to take a chance on the florida

governor will hurd was the only candidate at the event to criticise mr trump. he was booed after saying the former president was running to stay out of prison. donald trump still claims he's the victim of a witch hunt. >> if i weren't running, i would have nobody coming after me or if i was losing by a lot, i would have nobody coming after me. together, we will crush crooked joe biden, the most crooked president in the history of our country by far, and also grossly incompetent, doesn't know what he's doing. he's destroying our country. we will win the election big and we will make america great again. thank you . you. >> the cargo ship carrying thousands of cars has been burning off the dutch coast since tuesday night. one crew member was killed . seven others member was killed. seven others were injured when they jumped overboard to escape the flames. the dutch coastguard saying the cause of the fire is not yet known. however, in a recording released by broadcaster rtl , an

released by broadcaster rtl, an emergency responder can be heard saying it started in the battery of an electric car. the vessel, which was travelling from germany to egypt, is now drifting at least four people are feared dead after an australian army helicopter crashed into the ocean off the coast of queensland island. the chopper was taking part in military exercises with the us has now been suspended while a search and rescue operation takes place . well, back here, takes place. well, back here, labour has the labour has accused the government of a unforgivable lack of urgency over the needs of rape victims. he says the tory party has failed to implement key recommendations made in two reports dating back as far as july 2021 on the criminal justice joint inspectorate has urged the government to launch specialist rape courts and to give victims the opportunity to make a personal statement at environmental groups are warning the prime minister that they won't stand by if ministers

attempt to, quote, water down environmental and climate commitments . a joint letter has commitments. a joint letter has been sent to rishi sunak from organisations including the national trust and the rspb. they say they could mobilise their members and they're demanding an urgent meeting . it demanding an urgent meeting. it comes after conservative success in the uxbridge and south ruislip by—election led some mps to call for a rethink over the push for net zero by 2050. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now let's get straight back to nana . straight back to nana. >> thank you. raise just coming up to seven minutes after 3:00 andifs up to seven minutes after 3:00 and it's time to mock the week . and it's time to mock the week. and what a mucky old week it's been this week. sort natwest. the saga rumbled on dame alison rose finally admitted that she was the leak . who knew? honestly

was the leak. who knew? honestly shadow chancellor rachel reeves couldn't get her head around it and intimated that she was being treated unfairly because she's a woman. have a listen. >> i don't like some of the frankly, what i see as bullying attitudes to towards her. >> she's the first female chief executive of natwest. she took over at a time when that bank had real big problems. it seems to me that alison rose has done a good job turning that bank around, but i don't know the details of this specific case. let me this if i was in the let me say this if i was in the treasury the moment, rather treasury at the moment, rather than hunt and his than jeremy hunt and his conservative ministers, i'd be spending my time this summer trying ensure that families trying to ensure that families in like ones in scarborough, like the ones i've spoken are i've spoken to today, are properly protected during this cost living crisis. rather cost of living crisis. rather than picking a fight with banks . on behalf of nigel farage. >> really? and now , rachel, what >> really? and now, rachel, what happened with dame alison rose is that she did that thing that women love to do gossip. she broke the first rule of banking and possibly broke breaking the law. although i didn't see you

give your support. wholehearted to rosie to your colleague, rosie duffield, dared to say duffield, when she dared to say that only women have a cervix , that only women have a cervix, and you thought that she and whether you thought that she was again , was being transphobic again, watch it transphobic to say only women have a cervix. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning, nick. and it's great to talk to you . good to great to talk to you. good to have you. i just think that this issue has just become so divisive and toxic and it pits people against each other, both groups who face discrimination in society , women and trans in society, women and trans women . and i just find this women. and i just find this debate incredibly unhelpful. and unproductive to be totally honest, this conference i want to speak about issues that affect people, whatever their gender and whatever their sexuality. >> but is it transphobic , yes or no? >> look , look, i. >> look, look, i. >> oh, dear . oh, anyway , ceo >> look, look, i. >> oh, dear. oh, anyway , ceo has >> oh, dear. oh, anyway, ceo has thrown in the towel . overall, thrown in the towel. overall, boss howard davies is clinging on time for a complete overhaul

. i mean, they're all a bunch of old coots keir starmer seemed to suffer the same affliction as his chancellor this week. well, recently, actually, he struggled for months to say whether a woman could have a penis or not. thenit woman could have a penis or not. then it was 99.9% didn't. which meant 1. so 1 in 1000 did this week he accepted that a woman is an adult female and he confirmed the party will u—turn on gender self—id and admits the policy is not the right way forward . not the right way forward. >> we'll struggle with it. >> we'll struggle with it. >> the penis question , don't you? >> well, look, firstly , a woman >> well, look, firstly, a woman is an adult female, so let's clear that one up. >> what took him so long? i can't bring myself to play the clip where he struggles to answer the question. an he sort of does this and does that. i mean, can we really have these clowns they're clowns running things? they're even than the ones that even worse than the ones that we've already. i mean, he we've got already. i mean, he would prepared would have been prepared to carry this baloney if he carry on with this baloney if he thought it would get him thought that it would get him votes with all of that. so listen. also , we've had listen. and also, we've had wildfires in europe. the

wildfires raging in europe. the established media blaming climate change. it took them a while . it seemed to mention that while. it seemed to mention that the fires were started by man. you'd think the forests were self combusting . and finally, self combusting. and finally, a bbc drone got footage of a man on a moped who appeared to be the culprit for many of them. am too i harsh in calling for the death penalty for him? after all the death and destruction done to wildlife, humanity and the earth itself that these fires have caused ? wasn't arson whole have caused? wasn't arson whole 7 have caused? wasn't arson whole ? and prince harry had to pause there carefully because otherwise ofcom will be on me and prince harry continues his crusade against the press. it would appear to avenge the death of harry of his mother. harry talked about secret agreement between about a secret agreement between the newspapers royal the newspapers and the royal family allegedly authorised by the late queen. i mean, this was deemed implausible. judge deemed implausible. the judge dismissed his phone hacking claims against both the news of the world and the sun on the grounds that claims have grounds that the claims have been but said been brought too late, but said the allegations the other allegations of unlawful gathering, the other allegations of unla\asl gathering, the other allegations of unla\as the gathering, the other allegations of unla\as the use gathering, the other allegations of unla\as the use of gathering, the other allegations of unla\as the use of private aring, such as the use of private investigators, etcetera , could investigators, etcetera, could be tried. i mean, is such a

mess, harry. he seems consumed by anger and hatred , but rules by anger and hatred, but rules on how the press can behave have changed. they changed long ago . changed. they changed long ago. harry, i'm sure your mother would love to see you happy. why don't you just give that a go? it's been a mucky old week . it's been a mucky old week. before we get stuck into the debate over the next hour, here's what's coming up in the next hour . here's what's coming up in the next hour. comedian louis shaffer will be making light of this week's top stories. and mock the week at 320. it's climate control. another week of extreme wildfires across europe and the un declares july as the hottest month and hottest month on record. and then at 335 us lawmakers this week have been hearing firsthand accounts in congress about ufo sightings . so are we alone on sightings. so are we alone on the universe ? stay tuned. we'll the universe? stay tuned. we'll discuss and then at the end of the hour, political spotlight. another incredible week. the nigel farage saga. the bosses of both coots and parent company natwest resigning with plenty of political fallout. that's coming

up hour. political fallout. that's coming up hour . as ever, up in the next hour. as ever, tell what you think of tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. email gb views gbnews.com or tweet at . gb news before we tweet me at. gb news before we get stuck into the debate , let's get stuck into the debate, let's have a chat with the fabulous louis schaefer, who's here to mock the week. thank you very much. oh, what much. fabulous. oh, god, what a mucky old week this has been. well, it's been there's been a lot the thing , and i lot of news in the thing, and i think right. think you're basically right. >> there are some >> of course, there are some things totally things that you're totally wrong about where am right? about where am i right? >> want to hear about where am i right? >> i'll want to hear about where am i right? >> i'll start want to hear about where am i right? >> i'll start withnt to hear about where am i right? >> i'll start with you're ear right. >> you're that she wasn't >> you're right that she wasn't being on because she's woman. >> yeah, but she's being picked up have to blame. >> yeah, but she's being picked up this have to blame. >> yeah, but she's being picked up this is have to blame. >> yeah, but she's being picked up this is the have to blame. >> yeah, but she's being picked up this is the weirdesto blame. >> yeah, but she's being picked up this is the weirdest country. >> this is the weirdest country in the world. >> this is the weirdest country in tyouvorld. >> this is the weirdest country in tyou never fire anybody here. >> you never fire anybody here. >> you never fire anybody here. >> no one gets fired there. >> no one gets fired there. >> should have been fired. >> she should have been fired. >> she should have been fired. >> have been >> maybe she should have been fired. >> but people like you fired. >> b thateople like you fired. >> bthat program, like you have that program, the apprentice, here. apprentice, you're fired here. it's like, you you it's like, would you would you consider resigning? would you consider job? >> job? »-- >> but you know why they do that? why? | >> but you know why they do that? why? i think that? why? because i think they can benefits and can keep their benefits and things that you get. things like that that you get.

so severance package is so your severance package is better you resign? i think better if you resign? i think you you resign, you resign. yeah. if you resign, i even i think there's possibly even pension that pension and things like that could implicated. depends pension and things like that couldcontract.icated. depends pension and things like that couldcontract youed. depends pension and things like that couldcontract you signed. pends pension and things like that couldcontract you signed. of1ds what contract you signed. of course. instances, course. but in most instances, if you're sacked or fired, then those things can be taken from you away. >> i think it's the exact opposite is a person who's been fired many, many times in new york, got nothing right in new york, got nothing right in new york city. no you get when you get fired, get you get get fired, you get you get what's unemployment benefits. >> get with benefits. » get >> you get to go with the dole. >> you get to go with the dole. >> well, could have done >> well, she could have done that, but she's you can you go on the dole if you quit job in on the dole if you quit a job in america, can't say, america, you can't you say, well, the job. well, you quit the job. it's like getting like it's like getting it's like, yeah, get like, yeah, you get that, though, because they know that what happens you're fired though, because they know that withose ppens you're fired though, because they know that withoseppens you you're fired though, because they know that withose ppens you don't'e fired though, because they know that withose ppens you don't get.3d is those things you don't get. >> yeah. so if you're fired from somewhere, they'll take somewhere, then they'll take away and away benefits and packages and things that might got away benefits and packages and thin you1at might got away benefits and packages and thin you not might got away benefits and packages and thin you not beenight got away benefits and packages and thin you not beenight whicht away benefits and packages and thin you not beenight which is had you not been fired, which is why fired, you why when you're fired, you then get benefits as well. >> if that the case, that's >> if that is the case, that's even weirder than thought, even weirder than i thought, because like but mean, at because it's like but i mean, at the the day, at the end the end of the day, at the end of the day, did nothing of the day, she did nothing wrong. apart she did what >> she apart from she did what she to do, which was

she was told to do, which was which is to raise the esg which is to raise up the esg score, whatever that whatever the diversity. the globalist, the diversity. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> inclusion, economic >> the inclusion, the economic scale, whatever is , she governance, whatever it is, she there's war going on. there's a war going on. >> and this is the thing people don't understand. >> is a i mean, i don't >> this is a i mean, i don't want to call it a war, but there's disagreement between there's a disagreement between there's a disagreement between the internationalist and globalists the globalists, right? yes. and the people are more interested people who are more interested in the local kind of things. yeah. was to told make yeah. and she was to told make sure that those people who go against the global agenda to, let's say, whatever that means, am i saying they might not have been? >>i been? >> i think she wanted to do that. that was her mission. and she doing she she set about doing it. she didn't have to and she did. yeah, should have. yeah, they should have. >> don't think this >> you don't think this has happened? to to happened? according to to according we've heard, according what we've heard, thousands of people been de—banking. >> i know. it's terrible. and all this probably according all of this probably according to but to this ridiculous agenda. but it's not just her, though. she said that she has nothing do said that she has nothing to do with that were written with the notes that were written about to be about her. yeah, but even to be writing things that about writing things like that about people spying people like people and spying on people like that, whether that, i don't even know whether you're that kind you're allowed to hold that kind of about people

of information about people because there are rules and because there are gdpr rules and stuff so create stuff like that. so to create such a case file over someone because retweet because he happened to retweet ricky saying the old ricky gervais saying the old fashioned ones, women saying, are you saying to me because i'm learning something here, you're saying it's all her doing. saying to me it's all her doing. no, it's her fault that she blabbed and sort of talked about somebody else's account. somebody else's bank account. >> well , could she >> yeah, well, you could say she shouldn't have that, but. shouldn't have done that, but. but she did . she but she could have. she did. she did the wrong thing. but worse than but worse than that. the bbc a wrong yeah, bbc did a wrong thing. yeah, they being by pretending they did. by being by pretending to be journalists when they are just a state propaganda network. and. and they bought it. they bought wholecloth bought it whole wholecloth and they presented the worst thing you about nigel you can say about about nigel farage he has money. it's farage is he has no money. it's like has no like saying donald trump has no money, has got money. money, but he has got money. >> but we all know how much now, roughly. i you they roughly. i mean, you know, they shouldn't that, shouldn't be talking about that, right? be talking >> they shouldn't be talking about it's if said about it. it's like if you said that about said lewis that about me, you said lewis schaefer has no money. then of course, know schaefer course, we know lewis schaefer has no and this has no money. and because this is not stock trade, is not my stock in trade, what about keir starmer, though? >> let's move on. keir >> come on, let's move on. keir starmer is finally, finally

accepted woman is an accepted that a woman is an aduu accepted that a woman is an adult mean, really? accepted that a woman is an adlwell, mean, really? accepted that a woman is an adlwell, he mean, really? accepted that a woman is an adlwell, he didn't an, really? accepted that a woman is an adlwell, he didn't sayreally? accepted that a woman is an adlwell, he didn't say the ly? accepted that a woman is an adlwell, he didn't say the real >> well, he didn't say the real thing should have said, thing that he should have said, which human. female, which is an adult human. female, human, but he said an which is an adult human. female, humafemale. but he said an which is an adult human. female, humafemale. heiut he said an which is an adult human. female, humafemale. he did1e said an which is an adult human. female, humafemale. he did sayaid an adult female. he did say that. but but we're in a time of word play. we could have got him on that. >> but listen, we got him to come down from 99.9% of women don't have a penis. come down from 99.9% of women don't have a penis . yeah. to don't have a penis. yeah. to a woman as an adult female. which means that women don't have a penis. >> well, you could debate what exactly a female is. and this is the interesting thing. this is no an adult female is a biological thing. >> yeah, but so is a woman. that's what we thought. and then some they some people thought that they would from biology, would divide it from biology, which then to which they struggle. then to answer , what answer the question, what a woman answer the question, what a word0| answer the question, what a wordo you believe that ? i know answer the question, what a wor[most| believe that ? i know answer the question, what a wor[most ofelieve that ? i know answer the question, what a wor[most of the re that ? i know answer the question, what a wor[most of the people? i know answer the question, what a wor[most of the people believe' that most of the people believe that. you know that it's that. i know you know that it's like about or like talking about god or something. who don't something. people who don't believe when they hear believe in god when they hear someone about god, they someone talking about god, they 90, someone talking about god, they go, what are you doing? >> so imagine you don't accept that a woman an female that a woman is an adult female , right? what is a , right? okay, then what is a woman ? woman? >> no, no. >> no, no. >> what is it ? >> what is it? >> what is it? >> the question we have to >> the question is we have to

define the question. >> no, that's the question you. >> to. i, i we've been >> we have to. i, i we've been through this every week . every through this every week. every week. i agree with you. >> what about what about the bbc? what about the coverage of all ? not the a all this? not just the bbc, a lot the established media are lot of the established media are guilty of this, the way they covered those wildfires, as if, you because you know, it's all because of climate change. nah, it was. you can literally the flames can literally see the flames coming the screen. it coming through the screen. it was and was like some apocalyptic. and yet somebody on a moped. yeah is setting fire to things in a very hot climate right . which hot climate right. which obviously make the place hotter. yeah. and then now start and people were say it's people were trying to say it's climate change. climate change is not those fires. is not starting those fires. >> but. >> yeah, i agree with you. but. and doesn't forest and it doesn't start forest fires. and america i don't fires. and in america i don't have the statistics for forest fires internationally, i fires internationally, but i know in america, the know in america, in america, the number gone number of firefighters have gone in the last 100 years have dropped over 90, 95. they've gone to down practically nothing compared to what they were in 1930. temperatures . but 1930. and the temperatures. but at the end of the day , people at the end of the day, people would see this and they'd say, well, this is just an example .

well, this is just an example. well, this is just one little thing. there is a real thing. but there is a real crisis. >> well, there's lots of people starting fires, and that's what we're seeing. that's what even starting fires, and that's what we'ipeople g. that's what even starting fires, and that's what we'ipeople g. thatpeople even starting fires, and that's what we'ipeople g. thatpeople infen the people in the people in greece. spoke a guy who greece. we spoke to a guy who was helping the firefighters. he's there. and he he's a volunteer there. and he said all the remnants said they found all the remnants of arsonists, things, know, said they found all the remnants of canisters things, know, said they found all the remnants of canisters th propane know, said they found all the remnants of canisters th propane and�*w, so canisters of propane and stuff that. yeah. stuff like that. yeah. >> i mean , why would they do >> i mean, why would they do that? because because they get attention for doing it. they feel like they're doing a good thing. maybe they're they're actually need thing. maybe they're they're actuaialerted need thing. maybe they're they're actuaialerted to need thing. maybe they're they're actuaialerted to this need thing. maybe they're they're actuaialerted to this nana eed thing. maybe they're they're actuaialerted to this nana byi to be alerted to this nana by setting fire to everything and fine, let's finish prince fine, let's finish off on prince harry. fine, let's finish off on prince harwhat to him? what's fine, let's finish off on prince harwiwith to him? what's fine, let's finish off on prince harwiwith him? to him? what's wrong with him? >> course. what's wrong with wrong with him? >> is course. what's wrong with wrong with him? >> is heirse. what's wrong with wrong with him? >> is he he. what's wrong with wrong with him? >> is he he grew t's wrong with wrong with him? >> is he he grew up wrong with wrong with him? >> is he he grew up inong with him is he he grew up in a divorced household where the mother hated the father for what supposedly the father did to the mother. and he carrying around systemic anger towards us, towards his father and towards his father's family. and he's not unlike a lot of people then, is he? like he's not unlike my children who carry around a lot of hatred for me, for what? i'm not saying their mother did their mother didn't do that. the

mother lovely. but you could mother was lovely. but you could but could understand. poor but you could understand. poor harry. at the guy. poor harry. you look at the guy. poor >> i don't feel sorry for him. that's. he's at it, that's. he's so good at it, isn't it? everyone to isn't it? getting everyone to feel him. poor feel sorry for him. poor multi—millionaire harry. >> but what's it with you >> yeah, but what's it with you people you're constantly people? and you're constantly getting case of the getting on the case of the lesser royals . you just. i think lesser royals. you just. i think it's you pick on the lesser it's like you pick on the lesser royals, you you can. you royals, so you can you can. you can make the royal other can make the royal the other ones look great. i think i think i want to have i have to i just want to have i have to say i'm an american and say this. i'm an american and i think royal stuff is think this royal family stuff is really the biggest mistake this country has . country has. >> well, look at america. i don't going the you don't fancy going the way you guys gone. schaefer, guys have gone. louis schaefer, thank when are thank you very much. when are you next on headliners? >> we're on. we're you next on headliners? >>tonight. we're on. we're you next on headliners? >>tonight. comeie're on. we're you next on headliners? >>tonight. come watch n. we're you next on headliners? >>tonight. come watch usve're you next on headliners? >>tonight. come watch us at re on tonight. come watch us at 11:00. 11:00. you can see us right on this same right on this on this same channel with andrew doyle channel with with andrew doyle who's paul cox. and who's lovely and paul cox. and so really it's an hour of so it's really it's an hour of like us discussing the news with a little bit more humour than what i've tried to bring . yeah. what i've tried to bring. yeah. did say something about did i just say something about the i can't the royal family? i can't believe i just. >> that louis schaefer is on >> that is. louis schaefer is on headliners make

headliners tonight. make sure you him 11:00 here on gb you join him at 11:00 here on gb news. before we go any news. but before we go any further, now, this story i mentioned it earlier, it caught my cab drivers have my eye. black cab drivers have been to check their been begged to check their vehicles an urn containing vehicles for an urn containing the remains of child . now, the remains of a child. now, this after the father this is after the father tragically misplaced it on a journey. a bereaved father . he journey. a bereaved father. he left of the child in a left the ashes of the child in a black adidas bag in the cab he took from fenchurch street to smithfield market around about 6:30 am. yesterday morning. so please looking . the city of please keep looking. the city of london police issued london police have issued an appeal reunite this appeal to help reunite this father the urn. and so as father with the urn. and so as soon as possible. so you're soon as possible. so if you're a cabbie, you're in your soon as possible. so if you're a cabiandlou're in your soon as possible. so if you're a cabiand youe in your soon as possible. so if you're a cabiand you or in your soon as possible. so if you're a cabiand you or perhaps/our soon as possible. so if you're a cabiand you or perhaps yesterday cab and you or perhaps yesterday you and you've you were doing stuff and you've seen bag . please, please, seen this bag. please, please, please moment. check the please take a moment. check the cab. so much. right cab. thank you so much. right you're with i'm nana akua. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this gb news on tv online, this is gb news on tv online, and on digital radio. coming up, and on digital radio. coming up, an extraordinary hearing in the us congress week as us congress this week as whistleblower the whistleblower claimed that the government concealing government is concealing evidence . but first, evidence about ufos. but first, let's get an update with your weather looks like things are weather. looks like things are heating up . heating up. >> boxed boilers proud sponsors

of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. the next few days are going to retain the rather unsettled feel that we have had over much of july so far. low pressure is still with us through this weekend centre towards the northwest of the uk for now, those isobars squeezing together , allowing some for now, those isobars squeezing togethlusterywing some for now, those isobars squeezing togethlustery winds some for now, those isobars squeezing togethlustery winds throughout quite blustery winds throughout today and tomorrow as well today and into tomorrow as well , particularly along western and northern areas. showers northern coastal areas. showers will throughout will be continuing throughout the night for northern ireland, western , eventually western scotland, eventually into northwest into parts of northwest england as but the of as well. but for the rest of england and wales generally , england and wales generally, some clearer spells developing for though, it won't some clearer spells developing fortoo though, it won't some clearer spells developing fortoo chilly though, it won't some clearer spells developing fortoo chilly overnight. it won't be too chilly overnight. temperatures holding around temperatures holding up around 12 we might drop into 1214 c. but we might drop into single some rural single figures in some rural areas of north east scotland. showers from the word go as we kick off sunday for central southern scotland and north—west england as well . some of those england as well. some of those could be heavy times. maybe could be heavy at times. maybe with rumble thunder with the odd rumble of thunder causing some surface spray issues. the cloud will be

issues. then the cloud will be building from the southwest later on, with outbreaks of rain spreading across wales, southwest into southwest england and into northern ireland later on as well. temperatures held back underneath and underneath that cloud and starting to feel increasingly humid and sticky, but low 20s possible across the far east of scotland and england into monday, rain will still be monday, that rain will still be lingering in places generally, it'll quite a grey, drizzly it'll be quite a grey, drizzly day from the central belt of scotland, southwards brisk day from the central belt of scotla acrossrthwards brisk day from the central belt of scotla across the ards brisk day from the central belt of scotla across the english brisk day from the central belt of scotla across the english coastal winds across the english coastal channels as well . got to get channels as well. got to get used to it because there'll be further showers we end the further showers as we end the month well. otherwise enjoy month as well. otherwise enjoy the day. bye bye. the rest of your day. bye bye. looks like things are heating up by next boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, i'll be looking at the political fallout of nigel farage success in holding natwest. coutts to account in political spotlight. but up next, climate control looking into going on with these into what's going on with these wildfires in europe. that's on

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good afternoon. it's just coming up to 26 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . now, july is set to be the akua. now, july is set to be the warmest month ever recorded here with the average global temperatures. i know a lot of us in the uk are going what? oh well, it's all about average global temperatures which are reaching time

reaching apparently all time highs of 17 c. now is our climate reaching its breaking point? is there anything that can be done to tackle extreme weather? is it actually happening? i'm joined by ross clark. he's the author of not zero irrational target zero how an irrational target will impoverish you. and also john grant, senior lecturer in sustainable construction and climate change change. right. so i'm going to start with you, john grant. so these we're saying it's the hottest july ever since records began, which i don't know how many years that was, but talk to me about this . was, but talk to me about this. >> well, i mean , the data's >> well, i mean, the data's reasonably incontrovertible that, you know, we've been monitoring it properly for quite a period, which we're we're certain that we've we've punched that ceiling. >> and that's no surprise. >> and that's no surprise. >> everything that we've predicted and it could be as much as 125,000 years. >> this is the you know, is the long—range on that, which is an extraordinary amount of time ,

extraordinary amount of time, but not a surprise, sadly , in but not a surprise, sadly, in that the scientists have been talking about this and fundamentally , everybody's been fundamentally, everybody's been listening and not doing a great deal >> you said a certain quite a penod >> you said a certain quite a period can you just give us a number in terms of years? and i'm going to throw it over to ross? >> well, i mean , since since >> well, i mean, since since 1750, we've had the thermometer record. so you know, since since around then. >> well , ross ross, around then. >> well, ross ross, your thoughts on this ? thoughts on this? >> yeah , well, it's certainly >> yeah, well, it's certainly been a hot july and i'll i'll take the scientist world word for it. >> the average across the world it's been particularly hot and maybe the hottest recorded that the idea that it's the hottest for 120,000 years, i think is a little bit fantastical. >> we don't have records going back that far. >> what we have is proxy data from sort of ice cores and tree fings from sort of ice cores and tree rings and all this sort of stuff , which is a little bit suspect sometimes, but it's certainly can give you an idea of the climate , but it certainly can't climate, but it certainly can't tell you what the weather was like in july.

>> 120,000 bc and not that we had july's in those times. so that's a little bit sort of hysterical, a little bit over the top to say it's been the hottest july for 120,000 years. so ross, what do you make of the predictions with regard to climate . change well, the earth climate. change well, the earth is getting warmer. it's warmed by around a degree over the past sort of century and a half and, you know, it's very likely i've you know, it's very likely i've you know, it's very likely i've you know , people will have you know, people will have different views on this, but extremely likely that a large part of that is manmade carbon emissions . yeah. you know , it's emissions. yeah. you know, it's something we should do about we should certainly try to cut carbon emissions back and, you know, not try to affect the composition of the atmosphere because whatever's happening now, you know, the effects might be very negative. so i don't have any any problem with that. but it's that the hysteria i do

have a problem with and we had the other day, antonio gutierrez , make his speech at the un saying we're now in the era of global boiling and we're the air is unbreathable. and this thing , i mean to say that sort of stuff, you know, he clearly was breathing at the time. um you know, that that kind of hysteria has a very serious effect on people. there was a poll a couple of years ago that showed 56% of 18 to 24 year olds around the world think humanity is doomed . and you get sowing that doomed. and you get sowing that kind of hysteria. it becomes counter productive because, you know , what's the point in trying know, what's the point in trying to do anything about climate change? if you think you're doomed, you know, you might just as well sit back and listen to the band. as the ship goes down rather than search for a lifeboat . lifeboat. >> john that's a fair comment, isn't it? john no, i think it is. >> i'm i'm is.— >> i'm i'm my is. >> i'm i'm my field is.— >> i'm i'm my field , is. >> i'm i'm my field , my research >> i'm i'm my field, my research field is adaptation and resilience. so you know, the

idea that we might pursue a better way of living is the core of my, uh, my sort of, um , of my, uh, my sort of, um, professional research and, and, you know, and the world is not doomed. i totally agree with you . the world is not doomed . but . the world is not doomed. but if we don't do anything, things are going to get significantly worse than they need to be. and by trivialising the current situation, it might delay real action and because we're dealing with a whole planet change, we have to act it well before the critical time period. >> i'm sure 2050, i mean, this seems like an idea. >> you have to act in advance. >> you have to act in advance. >> 2050 feels like a figure. that's 2050. we'll do it then . i that's 2050. we'll do it then. i mean, surely there should be a gradual progression that could take 100 years potentially, but we'd rather than we'd do it properly rather than clutching some of things clutching at some of the things that we're doing now, which could things worse. that we're doing now, which couwell things worse.

that we're doing now, which couwell , things worse. that we're doing now, which couwell , i things worse. that we're doing now, which couwell , i thinkis worse. that we're doing now, which couwell , i think that rse. that we're doing now, which couwell , i think that the idea >> well, i think that the idea of 2050 is actually quite a long time in the future. we rebuilt europe after world war ii, so solidly, five years with the marshall plan. after that, we can do incredible things without making things worse. >> is it ? but the question is >> is it? but the question is why ? why? >> no, but why 2050? >> no, but why 2050? >> i'm just the last word to ross 2050, though that seems 2030. even for diesel cars and diesel and petrol. no more of those. no more new ones. and it feels a bit arbitrary and unrealistic for the people who actually live on the planet. what do you think, ross well, like so many other things, tackling climate change is balancing risks . balancing risks. >> clearly, there are risks from rising temperatures, but there are also risks from undermining the global economy. and if you make people poorer, you will get higher rates of mortality. you will kill people and you know more people will die maybe than from the effects of heat and so on.bear from the effects of heat and so on. bear in mind , we're just

on. bear in mind, we're just getting this heat into perspective. the incidence of high temperatures, the incidence of deaths from high temperatures is rising a little bit around the globe . but, you know, that the globe. but, you know, that is dwarfed by the number of deaths from cold temperatures , deaths from cold temperatures, which actually falling a far which actually falling at a far greater rate. so you know, overall, the idea that we're sort of, you know, we're doomed. we're heading into this sort of unliveable earth is a bit sort of out of the out of the reality , really. >> well, listen, ross, thank you so much. really good to talk to you. he's the author of nonzero. and also john grant. he's a senior lecturer in sustainable construction. senior lecturer in sustainable constr|so on. senior lecturer in sustainable constr|so what are your thoughts? much. so what are your thoughts? you've they're you've heard what they're saying. akua this is saying. i'm nana akua this is gb news tv online and on digital news on tv online and on digital radio. appeal radio. don't forget our appeal to all black cab and to all black cab drivers and riders still riders today. hey, we're still trying with trying to reunite a father with of son's ashes. please let of his son's ashes. please let us know if you happen to have that adidas bag in there. us know if you happen to have that also adidas bag in there. us know if you happen to have that also beidas bag in there. us know if you happen to have that also be discussing there. us know if you happen to have that also be discussing ufos. we'll also be discussing ufos and get the bottom of that. and get to the bottom of that. but first, get latest but first, let's get your latest news .

news headlines. >> good afternoon. 3:33. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. our top story , two motorbikes have been story, two motorbikes have been recovered by police investigating a fatal hit and run in walsall. seven year old catless seleznev was taken to hospital in a critical condition following the collision on thursday night. but she died of her injuries. thursday night. but she died of her injuries . a 14 year old boy her injuries. a 14 year old boy was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving and he's now been released on bail with strict conditions . rail services are conditions. rail services are being disrupted again with thousands of workers walking off the job over a long running dispute. rmt members at 14 train operating companies are striking over pay and conditions as people are being advised to check before they travel. in some areas , only half of some areas, only half of services are running, while in others there are none at all. and delays at the port of dover have been reduced with holidaymakers now waiting up to 45 minutes for french border officers to check their

passports. queues had been up to two hours long and nine lanes wide , with traffic backed up wide, with traffic backed up along the a20 almost as far as folkestone officials say almost 17,000 passengers had passed through the port by midday today . thousands of people have taken part in belfast's largest ever pride parade . this year's theme pride parade. this year's theme was stand by your trans. with more than 250 groups signing up for the event, police officers taking part were told not to wear their uniforms with the police service of northern ireland, citing obligations to impartiality. ireland, citing obligations to impartiality . party. meanwhile, impartiality. party. meanwhile, in liverpool, crowds took to the streets as the city hosted a pride parade on behalf of kyiv city. also held the eurovision song contest for the ukrainian capital in may of this year. you can get more on all of those stories and more by visiting our website at gbnews.com. now let's get straight back to nana .

get straight back to nana. >> thank you , ray. coming up, >> thank you, ray. coming up, it's political spotlight with both the ceos of coutts and natwest gone. i'll be looking at the political fallout of nigel farage as bank account battle with who's on that on my spotlight. but next with david mellor actually but next the heanng mellor actually but next the hearing at the us congress this week with a whistleblower claiming the us government is concealing evidence about ufos. we're discussing that. don't go anywhere .

welcome back. this is gb news. welcome back. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua just coming up to 40 minutes after 3:00. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. now, this is a big story. a lot of people talking about it. unidentified flying objects or ufos are an open secret in the us military, air force and intelligence veterans. they have testified to congress. now the two hour hearings saw lawmakers and witnesses accusing the federal government of withholding key ufo information withholding key ufo information with a former navy pilot claiming you ap sightings are routine and grossly underreported. so discuss this. i'm joined by andy mcgrillen. he's the host of the ufo

podcast. andy it feels all x, he really he is there such a thing ? really . ? really. >> i think this has gone from the x—files to real life rather than the realms of science fiction as much as it sounds weird and wonderful, but the two houn weird and wonderful, but the two hour, two hour plus session in congress was fascinating to listen to and went beyond a lot of people's expectations , of people's expectations, including own , really. including my own, really. >> but what was what did they basically say then in most if you could summarise what they were saying, what did they believe, they hearing believe, what they were hearing from these people who said they'd ? they'd seen them? >> yeah, the big call out was from three witnesses, but mainly david grush, who you can see on your screen just well, that's rhinegraves at the moment. but david grush is a former intelligence officer he's intelligence officer and he's mid—thirties who was briefing presidents on matters of national and david national security. and david grush said he has seen the documentation and imagery which shows that the united states and partners have not only potential

crashed spacecraft, but biologics, which includes the pilots of non—human origin of these craft as well. and he's passed on those details and information to folks behind the scenes in congress. >> but how does he know that some people aren't having a laugh him just saying, laugh with him and just saying, oh, yeah let's trick him. oh, go on. yeah let's trick him. let's put some an old foot let's put some like an old foot in thing. but it isn't a in his thing. but it isn't a foot. you foot. it's something silly. you know does he know what i mean? how does he know what i mean? how does he know that people aren't just taking out him or taking the mickey out of him or trying you know, because trying to, you know, because there's people who kind there's a lot of people who kind of make things up. of make make things up. >> the audio was cut out on my end, so i'm not too sure what the question was there. if someone can can fix that for us, that would be great. >> try and fix it. >> oh, i will try and fix it. but people but basically people making stuff he not be stuff up though. could he not be making ? whether you can making it up? whether you can hear me, he can't hear me . you hear me, he can't hear me. you know, ufo has taken him. know, maybe a ufo has taken him. maybe. maybe something some auen maybe. maybe something some alien has landed where alien matter has landed where andy . well, listen , loads of andy is. well, listen, loads of you are always getting in touch. maybe you can get in touch in the usual way. vaiews@gbnews.com. us vaiews@gbnews.com. or tweet us

at gb news. we've also got our appeal there . if you're a appeal out there. if you're a black cabbie, going be black cabbie, i'm going to be going and on about going on and on and on about this me this until somebody emails me and found it. but and says, we found it. but a father lost the urn, which father has lost the urn, which was in a bag and an adidas bag, which he left in the back of a black cab. and it was, of course, his son's ashes. so if anybody, any cabbies out there happen to be seeing that there's something in their cab or happen to notice that they've left something please something behind, then please let know. gb views gbnews.com let us know. gb views gbnews.com or tweet at gb views. so we or tweet us at gb views. so we got andrew back. now we can't find andrew. he's obviously a ufo taken so let's ufo has taken him, so let's carry on because we're talking loads of stuff. we've got political spotlight on the way. but first wildfire is sweeping across some of the popular destinations, such as greece and spain. many british tourists have seen their flights and holidays cancelled . dumas holidays cancelled. dumas experts it could be experts say that it could be leading to a boost in domestic tourism as holidaymakers choose less tricky options. south east reporter ray addison has the story. >> the footage makes for

terrifying viewing once desirable holiday destinations turned into a hell on earth in just a matter of hours. and the dream of a relaxing vacation left in tatters for hardworking british tourists due to airline cancellations and the fear of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. but could the mediterranean's loss be the uk's gain along england's south coast? industry experts say they're hearing anecdotal reports of an increase in bookings. fran, downton is chief executive of tourism south east. she says staycation seasons appear to be on the rise . appear to be on the rise. >> so in surveying our visitors to the south—east, we know that 38% of those will be returning back to the south—east this year . we also know a further 16% who would normally go abroad have chosen the south—east to take their days and short trips . it's their days and short trips. it's a known known quantity, actually

. those possible queues at airports travelling to maybe on unbearably hot areas at the moment . and the risk factor with moment. and the risk factor with that means that the uk is a really viable alternative . really viable alternative. >> with 66 sites across england , scotland and wales. parkdean resorts is the leading operator of holiday parks in the country . operations director barry robinson says demand is suddenly up. >> in the last week we've seen a 20% spike in our bookings rate year on year that is attributable, i think unfortunately to the events that have occurred in greece and in europe. so as at a park in the north—east this week and i spoke to a family that should have beenin to a family that should have been in rhodes for a fortnight, they'd done think 4 or 5 nights of their holiday. they came back on sunday, tragically, but what they managed to do because they had time portion of a holiday was to rebook that. so they're staying with us now for five nights, monday to friday. >> meanwhile, fran says in an unexpected twist , uk holiday

unexpected twist, uk holiday destinations are being told to prepare for an increase in tourists from mediterranean countries. as they search for their own safe havens to relax. in britain's more moderate temperatures , certainly from temperatures, certainly from foreign nationals. >> yet there's a distinct possibility that actually it's seen as a safer bet. it takes the risk out of perhaps cancellations. they might see or certainly getting stuck in a destination and at the moment, our weather is slightly changeable, but obviously it's warm. so it's a comfortable alternative . i think as a as alternative. i think as a as a destination . destination. >> ray addison gb news as well, of course, the report from ray. >> but now it's time to shine a light on an issue or someone in the political arena. it's time for political spotlight and the person right now in that light is david mellor. now, he was elected as conservative mp for putney in 1979, managing to hold his position for a whopping 18

years. and during his time he served as the chief secretary to the treasury and secretary of state for national heritage. and before politics, david was a practising barrister , even being practising barrister, even being appointed queen's counsel. the head of coutts bank, peter flavel has resigned as natwest tries to contain a crisis that might have wiped £1 billion off the share price. meanwhile on the share price. meanwhile on the menu, future of the group's chairman, sir howard davies hangsin chairman, sir howard davies hangs in the balance . also, hangs in the balance. also, we'll be discussing rishi sunak as well. david mellorjoins me now . david, really good to talk now. david, really good to talk to you. wow, good afternoon . i to you. wow, good afternoon. i remember you from way back. i used to watch politics and you were then i'd be like, david, just a babe in arms, i should think . no, gosh, that's so think. no, me. gosh, that's so good. exactly the right thing to say . david, we're going to get say. david, we're going to get on fabulously so on just fabulously well. so david, what as you watch all of this, because in your day when you were in the political arena, every thing seemed so black and white. was so cut and dry. white. it was so cut and dry. there was none of this this esg

business or all this . talk to me business or all this. talk to me about your view on what's happening with natwest and should now now, howard davis also resigned ? also resigned? >> well, i think natwest is really awful when you think it's 40% state owned . 40% state owned. >> and i think that what has happened look, the job of a bank is to provide banking services. this bank seemed to think coots certainly, which is of course, wholly owned by by natwest, seem to think that it was their job to think that it was their job to kind of pass judgement on the politics of their of their customers . and if those politics customers. and if those politics in their view, didn't work well, then they would dispense with them and of course they took on them and of course they took on the wrong chat with nigel farage, who is not someone to trifle with. and i'm thrilled by what has happened because

hopefully the idea of a bank being dominated by woke culture has been put to the sword . has been put to the sword. >> what we've had is the head of natwest has fallen on her sword, the head of coots has fallen on his sword. >> one hopes, you know, it's like admiral bing. >> probably nobody remembers admiral bing. >> and i never had the pleasure of met him meeting him. but he was shot on his own. >> quarterdeck english admiral in the 1740s, as the saying went at the time, poor on courage . la at the time, poor on courage. la otra to encourage the other admirals to perform a bit better. >> well, i hope that what has happened at natwest will encourage other bankers to not start getting above themselves. >> their job start getting above themselves. >> theirjob is just to deal with the money, not to say, well, i don't like what you think. >> so you know, we're not going to have you as a customer. >> they should lose their banking licence if they try and do that again. >> , you that we >> well, do you think that we need doing something about need to be doing something about these and having sort these banks and having some sort of obviously

of way where whilst obviously they're private companies, although natwest is although coutts, natwest is partially heavily owned by us, the is. do you think we the taxpayer is. do you think we need to some sort of rule need to have some sort of rule with them whereby perhaps they could consideration could take into consideration that just get that they can't simply just get rid of customers because it's not natwest . there are not just natwest. there are loads who fallen loads of others who have fallen in who are doing this same thing to customers. to their customers. >> but , but to their customers. >> but, but this is, >> yeah, but, but this is, i think the situation. okay >> it should make it easier to sort out what's happened at natwest because natwest is 40% owned by the public. >> but in order to operate a bank, you have to have a banking licence. that banking licence should make it absolutely clear that you cannot choose your customers on the basis of their political beliefs . political beliefs. >> it's unbelievable that they actually felt that they could be the arbiters of morality because particularly the banks, i hope you're allowed to say when you think how immoral a lot of these

banks have behaved consists . we banks have behaved consists. we bailed a lot of them out, in particular natwest, rbs, that group and the fact that some of their customers are probably way more worse than nigel farage in terms of what they're making in terms of what they're making in terms of what they're making in terms of judgements that they're passing , terms of judgements that they're passing, oligarch and so on. >> yeah, course . so just this >> yeah, of course. so just this is hypocrisy and you know, maybe it's not over yet. >> i'm very disappointed . >> i'm very disappointed. >> i'm very disappointed. >> good old friend of mine, howard davis , the chairman. i howard davis, the chairman. i would have thought would have been quicker than he was. >> and i think that that, you know, he needs to be certain that he wants to take the bank through the next stage , which is through the next stage, which is rebuilding public confidence . rebuilding public confidence. >> once he himself appeared to think that what went on was all right. >> well, howard , it wasn't all >> well, howard, it wasn't all right. >> it isn't all right. and it won't ever be all right unless you sort it out . you sort it out. >> so. so what do you think , >> so. so what do you think, then, in terms and when you're looking now at the parties? so we've got moving on to sort of

the ulez and the labor party and the ulez and the labor party and the way the conservatives were holding on to this net zero. do you think that perhaps sir keir starmer could into problems starmer could come into problems with regard to his sort of allegiance towards sadiq khan and even though sort of said, and even though he sort of said, oh, not really being oh, ulez, he's not really being very wants very clear about where he wants to it. do think it to be with it. do you think it could end being their could end up being their achilles heel? >> well, i think the problem, um, should certainly um, sadiq khan should certainly be achilles heel because be their achilles heel because i was just reading a piece in the paper today actually . paper today actually. >> you may have seen the same piece that the emissions from china are 30 odd times. piece that the emissions from china are 30 odd times . 31 times china are 30 odd times. 31 times the emissions from the uk . the emissions from the uk. >> china is a polluter that makes us look like absolute beginners when it comes to polluting. and we're expected to have these ulez rules which will be crippling financially to a number of people who just want to have the opportunity to drive their car around outer london and that is apparently causing

too much danger to the planet when of course, the real danger to the planet comes from china and others like them. and that's it. >> i don't it.— >> i don't see it. >> i don't see any point in us stressing ourselves out in the uk about our emissions when the chinese emissions have gone up by so much and continue to rise. >> but we're buying off them. >> but we're buying off them. >> so that's why their emissions are high and ours are low because they're extremely productive, whereas we don't make anything really. do you think tony blair was right in what in coming forward and saying actually we saying that actually we shouldn't cost and shouldn't bear the cost and burden of net zero? >> well , i burden of net zero? >> well, i think that's a big issue about net zero. >> but personally, i think the trouble with net zero is that it's a goal that won't make any difference to the world, but which will make a lot of difference to us. >> i think what needs to happen is that we need to be sure that net zero and the pursuit of net zero is not going to be

crippling to the british economy at the to no benefit . if someone at the to no benefit. if someone could say to me , well, of could say to me, well, of course, if we had net zero in the uk, the world would be saved from climate change, well, that would be a different matter. >> but the fact the matter is we could have net zero and we would still be in the same mess because the major polluters, china and as others like them, the united states indeed the major polluters, will not stop polluting. and what we produce is in a way a pollution is minimal. >> david mellor thank you so much. it's such a pleasure to talk to you. absolute legend. david miller thank you very much. all right. well, you're with me. i'm nana this is much. all right. well, you're wgb me. i'm nana this is much. all right. well, you're wgb me. i'|oniana this is much. all right. well, you're wgb me. i'|on tva this is much. all right. well, you're wgb me. i'|on tv , this is much. all right. well, you're wgb me. i'|on tv , onlinethis is much. all right. well, you're wgb me. i'|on tv , online and is much. all right. well, you're wgb me. i'|on tv , online and on a gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up the digital radio. coming up in the next hour, campaigner and activist rosamund adoo—kissi—debrah will be live in the studio now. ros wins nine year old daughter ella. tragically passed away after suffering attack a suffering severe asthma attack a decade due to pollution . ian decade ago due to pollution. ian will be speaking to her live . will be speaking to her live. she'll in the next few she'll be here in the next few hours. but right now, let's get

an update your weather . an update with your weather. >> the is rising. an update with your weather. >> the is rising . a boxt solar >> the is rising. a boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. the next few days are going to retain the rather unsettled feel that we have had over much of july so far. low pressure is still with us through this weekend centre towards the northwest the uk. towards the northwest of the uk. for those isobars squeezing for now, those isobars squeezing together , allowing for some together, allowing for some quite winds throughout quite blustery winds throughout today into tomorrow as well, today and into tomorrow as well, particularly along western and northern areas . showers northern coastal areas. showers will be continuing throughout the northern the night for northern ireland and scotland , eventually and western scotland, eventually into england and western scotland, eventually intwell england and western scotland, eventually intwell . england and western scotland, eventually intwell . but england and western scotland, eventually intwell . but for england and western scotland, eventually intwell . but for the england and western scotland, eventually intwell . but for the erof and as well. but for the rest of england and wales generally , england and wales generally, some developing some clearer spells developing for most though, it won't for most of us, though, it won't be chilly overnight. be too chilly overnight. temperatures up around temperatures holding up around 12 14 c. but we temperatures holding up around 1214 c. but we might drop into single some rural single figures in some rural areas north—east scotland . areas of north—east scotland. showers from the word go as we kick off sunday for central southern scotland and north—west

england well. some those england as well. some of those could heavy at times, maybe could be heavy at times, maybe with the odd thunder with the odd rumble of thunder causing some surface spray issues , then the cloud will be issues, then the cloud will be building from the southwest later with outbreaks of rain later on with outbreaks of rain spreading across wales, southwest into southwest england and into northern later on as northern ireland later on as well. held well. temperatures held back underneath that cloud and starting increasingly starting to feel increasingly humid and sticky, but low 20 is possible across far east of possible across the far east of scotland england into scotland and england into monday, that rain will still be lingering in places generally. it'll a grey, drizzly it'll be quite a grey, drizzly day from the central belt of scotland, brisk scotland, southwards some brisk winds across the english coastal channels as well. we've got to get to because there'll get used to it because there'll be as we the be further showers as we end the month well. otherwise enjoy month as well. otherwise enjoy the your day by the the rest of your day by the temperatures rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> well still to come in the next hour, my great british debate this hour. and i'll be i'll be asking is ulez labour's achilles heel and my monologue, which is coming up next. the

farce this week at natwest and coutts that is on the way .

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digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics, hitting the headunes the big topics, hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's and of course it's it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing, at times we will discussing, and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy , also a former lizzie cundy, also a former labour adviser , matthew laterza, labour adviser, matthew laterza, before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines . nana. >> thank you. i'm polly middlehurst in the gb news room. and our top story to motorbikes have been recovered by police investigating a fatal hit and run incident in walsall in the west midlands. run incident in walsall in the west midlands . seven year old west midlands. seven year old cattles seleznev was taken to hospital in a critical condition following the collision on thursday night. later dying of her injuries. a 14 year old boy was arrested on suspicion of

causing death by dangerous driving. he's now been released on bail with strict conditions as enquiries continue . rail as enquiries continue. rail services are being disrupted again today with thousands of workers walking off the job in a long running dispute over pay rmt members at 14 train operating companies are striking and passengers are being asked to check before travelling . in to check before travelling. in some areas, only half of services are running, while other areas have none at all. the union's senior assistant general secretary eddie dempsey, told us there have been no negotiations since april . negotiations since april. >> we're out on strike today because we're now coming up to four years without a pay freeze . the government is planning to strip thousands of out strip thousands of jobs out of our industry and shut down ticket offices right across the country. we're looking at the managed decline of railway managed decline of the railway and our members are determined to fair settlement on to achieve a fair settlement on pay, to achieve a fair settlement on pay, job security and they want to protect their and to protect their terms and conditions. what we're to protect their terms and condithere. what we're to protect their terms and condithere. haven'tiat we're to protect their terms and condithere. haven't hadre're to protect their terms and condithere. haven't had any doing here. we haven't had any negotiate mid—april, and doing here. we haven't had any negwanta mid—april, and doing here. we haven't had any negwant to mid—april, and doing here. we haven't had any

negwant to round april, and doing here. we haven't had any negwant to round apriltable we want to get round the table and our members a they and get our members a deal. they can support. >> delays at the port of dover, have been reduced with holidaymakers , others now holidaymakers, others now waiting up to 45 minutes for french border officials to check through their passports . queues through their passports. queues have been up to nine lanes wide with traffic backed up almost as far as folkestone officials saying almost 17,000 passengers, though, have passed through the port this morning to the united states now where the republican presidential candidates shared the stage for the first time as they fought for support at a rally in iowa . take a listen. rally in iowa. take a listen. one could end up going to prison . on well, despite facing new criminal charges , donald trump criminal charges, donald trump was the one to hit out at rival ron desantis, telling the crowd not to take a chance on the florida governor. will heard was the only candidate to openly criticise mr trump. he was booed after saying the former

president was running to stay out of prison . donald trump out of prison. donald trump still claims he's the victim of a witch hunt. if i weren't running, i would have nobody coming after me or if i was losing by a lot, i would have nobody coming after me together. >> we will crush crooked joe biden , the most crooked biden, the most crooked president in the history of our country by far. and also grossly incompetent , doesn't know what incompetent, doesn't know what he's doing . he's destroying our he's doing. he's destroying our country. we will win the election big and we will make america great again. thank you , america great again. thank you, donald trump. >> now cargo ship carrying thousands of cars has been burning off the dutch coast since tuesday night . at one crew since tuesday night. at one crew member has died. seven others were injured and it happened when they jumped overboard to escape the flames. the dutch coastguard says the cause of the fire is not yet known. however in a recording released by the broadcast for rtl, an emergency responder can be heard saying it started in the battery of one of

the electric cars on board the vessel, which was travelling from germany to egypt, is now drifting . here labour has drifting. here labour has accused the government of an unforgivable lack of urgency over the needs of rape victims. it says the tory party has failed to implement key recommendations made in two reports dating back as far as july 20th, 21. the criminal justice joint inspectorate has urged the government to launch specialist rape courts and give victims the opportunity to make personal statements . personal statements. environmental groups are warning the prime minister they won't stand by if ministers attempt to water down environmental and climate commitments . a joint climate commitments. a joint letter has been sent to rishi sunak from organisations including the national trust and the rspb . they say they could the rspb. they say they could mobilise their members and are demanding an urgent meeting that comes after conservative success in the uxbridge and south ruislip by—election led some mps to call for a rethink over the

push for net zero by 2050. now a former paratrooper has completed a 19,000 mile charity walk around the uk coastline. chris lewis was joined by hundreds of supporters as he crossed the finish line today. supporters as he crossed the finish line today . day at finish line today. day at a beach in wales. the father of two so far raised £500,000 for soldiers, sailors and airmen . soldiers, sailors and airmen. the safir association soldiers , the safir association soldiers, sailors and airmen's families association on mr lewis set off from the same point six years ago, with only a few supplies and £10 in his pocket. congratulations to him . now congratulations to him. now thousands of people have taken part in belfast. largest ever pride parade today. this year's theme was stand by your trans. with more than 250 groups signing up for the event, police officers taking part were told not to wear the uniforms with the police service of northern ireland, citing obligations of impartiality. meanwhile in liverpool, crowds took to the streets as the city hosted a

pride parade on behalf of kyiv . pride parade on behalf of kyiv. the city also held the eurovision song contest for the ukrainian capital in may this year. ukrainian capital in may this year . that's ukrainian capital in may this year. that's your ukrainian capital in may this year . that's your latest news year. that's your latest news headlines. more news as it happens. back now to nana akua . happens. back now to nana akua. >> thank you, polly. good afternoon. it'sjust >> thank you, polly. good afternoon. it's just fast approaching. seven minutes after 4:00. this is a gb news on tv, onune 4:00. this is a gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua , the natwest saga nana akua, the natwest saga rumbles on. i mean, this is such a mess. the boss, howard davies , the one who oversees all the bank's activities and the one who has decided that despite the ridiculous behaviour of gossip , ridiculous behaviour of gossip, dame alison rose and the resignation of peter flavel, the ceo of coutts, peter at least has a humility to accept that

the buck stopped with him and that he should bear responsibility. but oh no, not howard . he's decided that he's howard. he's decided that he's sticking with his planned departure for 2024. you've got ex bbc employees like emily maitlis on her news agent podcast who didn't appear to grasp that what had happened to nigel could happen to anyone and has been happening on a reprehensible scale , seen by reprehensible scale, seen by many banks, often with no explanation. she's a reminder of just how those on the rabid left can behave when they don't like you , even when it's pretty clear you, even when it's pretty clear that bank cancelling people that a bank cancelling people based on political beliefs could actually to them as well actually happen to them as well . i'll have a listen. the power of the populist somehow is to turn utter entitlement into victimhood . what's she on about victimhood. what's she on about 7 victimhood. what's she on about ? what's she talking about? she's totally wrong. i used to look up to her when i was still in the matrix, but yesterday natwest had a shareholder meeting where the they announced a billion pound increase in

profit . bittersweet that in the profit. bittersweet that in the last few days that's been pretty much wiped out off their share price after their latest antics and to make matters worse, natwest have now employed a law firm whose senior consultant chris hale wrote an opinion piece which referred to the referendum debate on brexit as as a disturbing mix, as xenophobia, racism and nostalgia for the magazine described him as a pro—remain lawyer. i mean, he can't be allowed anywhere near any of this. yes today nigel farage tweeted , natwest nigel farage tweeted, natwest group have chosen establishment legal firm travis smith to investigate my account closure. the chair emeritus and senior consultant chris hale is pro is a pro remain lawyer who said that brexit was a tragedy . how that brexit was a tragedy. how can we take this firm seriously, given that the words mr hale used mirrored those of natwest at no as 39% shareholder? we see the public should have a right

to decide . and rather than a to decide. and rather than a bank which appears to be run by a load of old coots . well before a load of old coots. well before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking is the ulez achilles heel the ulez labour's achilles heel ? despite a high court win for sadiq khan's ulez expansion , sadiq khan's ulez expansion, could it cost khan his job? and keir starmer his shot as pm? then at 450, it's royal roundup time and royal biographer angela levin will be live in the studio to give us the latest from to give us all the latest from behind walls on the behind the palace walls on the menu. of exciting stuff , menu. loads of exciting stuff, including harry and then including prince harry and then at five, this week's at five, it's this week's difficult conversation on campaigner activist rosamund campaigner and activist rosamund adoo—kissi—debrah will be in the studio now. rosamund's nine year old daughter ella tragically passed after suffering passed away after suffering a severe asthma attack a decade ago due to air pollution. that is coming up in the next hour. as ever, tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gb views gbnews.com or

tweet me at . gb news. right. tweet me at. gb news. right. let's get started . let's welcome let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour adviser matthew elazar. right, i'm going to start. i love it. i love it. >>— to start. i love it. i love it. >> it's not right. >> it's not right. >> no, no, right. >> no, no, right. >> i've never felt so much. >> i've never felt so much. >> oh, really ? you look a little >> oh, really? you look a little bit. little i know. i keep thinking like that thing. i'll sort myself out. i'll sort yourself out . i'll emerge up. yourself out. i'll emerge up. >> well, i'm going to start with you. seeing as you're a labour person. i mean, come on, starmer ulez is we are seeing keir starmer backtrack back—pedal. i mean, he's back—pedalled over a woman, which was entertaining. we can get on. yeah, i'm sure . we can get on. yeah, i'm sure. >> absolutely. >> no, no, absolutely. >> no, no, absolutely. >> ulez. i mean, >> but this one ulez. i mean, where does he stand with it? >> look, i think a week >> well, look, i think a week ago when we had the kind of battle , sort of battle to battle, sort of the battle to blame blame , as were, blame or blame, as it were, after uxbridge and keir went, you know, went up to the labour

policy gathering in nottingham and said we shouldn't be doing policies that ended up on a leaflet. and then even on his heels, danny beales, the candidate who lost by 400 and something votes, went and said it's idea. it's a bad idea. >> established last week >> so we established last week it a bad idea. the it was a bad idea. and the problem nobody's quite worked it was a bad idea. and the pronhat nobody's quite worked it was a bad idea. and the pronhat a nobody's quite worked it was a bad idea. and the pronhat a gooddy's quite worked it was a bad idea. and the pronhat a good ideajuite worked it was a bad idea. and the pronhat a good idea is. :e worked out what a good idea is. >> not to do it, perhaps? >> so not to do it, perhaps? >> so not to do it, perhaps? >> think the problem is, >> well, i think the problem is, is because on the underground, which problem . which has the real problem. >> absolutely. which has the real problem. >> noise jtely. which has the real problem. >> noise pollution well, >> noise pollution as well, is a real problem in the underground. but think that the problem is, but i think that the problem is, is said, oh, is sadiq has sort of said, oh, we to do something. we need to do something. but it's nobody knows what that it's that nobody knows what that something is. and i think they're now in bind they're now stuck in the bind that lot of that they will get into a lot of trouble their kind of core trouble with their kind of core vote and with the environment lobby. ditch it totally. lobby. if they ditch it totally. but to money but he hasn't got any to money enough money a big enough money to give a big a big a big a big, big bonus, a big brucey bonus to the to those who are going to be affected, who can actually who can actually buy a new to buy a new car. so nobody can buy a new combine. they're stuck in between rock they're stuck in between a rock and a hard place. >> you the doesn't reduce

>> you the ulez doesn't reduce air pollution. it just taxes it. and this is a con, i'm afraid to say . and this is a con, i'm afraid to say. i am and this is a con, i'm afraid to say . i am absolutely disgusted say. i am absolutely disgusted that this has gone through because you know it's going to hit, it's going to hit the poor working class in those areas and it's outside london now it's going outside london now andifs it's going outside london now and it's not going to affect places portsmouth and places like portsmouth and norwich afield . it's norwich and further afield. it's going really affect people's going to really affect people's lives, their working, just getting to appointments, going to see your mum visits. >> it's going to really affect people going to cost £12, £0.50 just to the drive and it's just to leave the drive and it's very is in favour very odd that khan is in favour of freedom of movement inside the eu, but not within his own city. >> okay, that's a very good point. >> that's a good point. >> that's a good point. >> that's a very good point. >> that's a very good point. >> it's a very good line. >> it's a very good line. >> but do you think looking at all of this, though, i mean, we've discussed that and we will look that in detail. but look at that in more detail. but i come and ask you now i want to come and ask you now about behaviour the about the behaviour with the banks, because that is you know, and lots of people on the left like emily maitlis coming out and saying that, come on, are

you i mean, i tell you what, it's one of those times where the kind of liberal establishment, i'm emily, is, establishment, if i'm emily, is, you know, very firmly part, you know, very firmly a part, make it difficult those of make it difficult for those of us kind of labour on the us who are kind of labour on the left politics because left of politics because actually time actually a lot of the time they're not particularly left wing in terms of, you know, they weren't the trenches weren't there in the trenches dunng weren't there in the trenches during dark but during the dark days, but they're liberal with a they're kind of liberal with a small think truth small l and i think the truth of the that was the matter is, is that that was a know, that that was a a you know, that that was a very, very unfortunate clip from emily because, of course, unfortunate. >> trying to be because >> i'm trying to be nice because . course , . misguided because, of course, we've seen this week nigel with gina miller. now miller is gina miller. now gina miller is the opposite of nigel. the absolute opposite of nigel. she you know , famously took she was, you know, famously took the government during the government to court during the government to court during the endless brexit arouse in the theresa may government but she's been she's had her her her political party's bank accounts been taken away by. yeah well you now exactly i think you see now exactly and i think and you know i'm very very clear that on the left that people on the left shouldn't shouldn't shouldn't be you know, shouldn't be and you know, because be crowing and you know, because there grace of god there but for the grace of god go them. and know, it's go them. and you know, it's historically on historically it's been people on the cancelled.

the left who've been cancelled. it's been people on the left who've been barred from or, who've been barred from jobs or, you actually who've been barred from jobs or, you trade actually who've been barred from jobs or, you trade union actually who've been barred from jobs or, you trade union movementlly who've been barred from jobs or, you trade union movement said it the trade union movement said it was own because sometimes was own bank because sometimes it difficult bank it was difficult to get bank accounts years accounts 30, 40 years ago for left organisations so left wing organisations. so i certainly be crowing certainly wouldn't be crowing on twitter. needs twitter. and i think emily needs to chill pill. to take a chill pill. >> i think emily should be on her knees thanking nigel farage for he's done because he's for what he's done because he's brought there's many brought this out. there's many people been debunked people that have been debunked and want to be open and and didn't want to be open and honest and you know about it because scared they because they were scared they wouldn't another bank wouldn't get another bank account. and i think nigel's been really brave what he's been really brave in what he's doing. thankfully he's got been really brave in what he's doirmedia thankfully he's got been really brave in what he's doirmedia platform ly he's got been really brave in what he's doirmedia platform to he's got been really brave in what he's doirmedia platform to dos got been really brave in what he's doirmedia platform to do this the media platform to do this and now he's going to go on and help and who would he help others. and who would he think miller as think be helping? gina miller as you said , who's now? you said, who's now? >> and i'm really pleased that he's that actually he's done that because actually the together the two of them working together is it not is good and making it not a a sort of partisan. >> exactly. exactly. >> exactly. exactly. >> couldn't do >> emily maitlis couldn't do that. think that what that. and i think that what she's done there is put off a lot people who would have lot of people who would have probably think probably followed her. i think what is just what she's done there is just made people go, oh, well, i think right, because this think you're right, because this this sense this phrase she used the sense of extraordinary

of entitlement is extraordinary because the big because actually one of the big things left is that things on the left is that everybody's entitled to a bank account. >> been campaign, you >> it's been a big campaign, you know, to make sure that people who've homelessness, who've got homelessness, etcetera, it. etcetera, don't get it. >> happened >> but look, it happened to nigel happen nigel yesterday. it could happen to don't know. to emily today. we don't know. it to any one of us. >> us. >> i will throw my head back. >> i will throw my head back. >> i will throw my head back. >> i think it's so >> i just think it's so disgusting that this modern disgusting that in this modern corporate we're being corporate britain, we're being seen more important seen as it's more important how political than political correct we are than making profit. i just. why aren't banks doing banks aren't banks doing what banks should , like robbing us should do, like robbing us blind? should do, like robbing us bliryes . so basically, the >> yes. so basically, the arbiters morality are telling arbiters of morality are telling us that we shouldn't we should be people. be nicer to people. >> i want to pat >> and i don't want to pat myself on the back here, but i did actually break the news that alison going to alison rose was going to have to step because friend step down because my friend works coutts bank told works at coutts bank told me that were in a meeting and that they were in a meeting and she to go so tweeted she was about to go so i tweeted that. definitely that. and so there's definitely loose in that bank, that's loose lips in that bank, that's for sure. >> f- for sure. >> must feel very let down. >> and you know what? loose lips do sink ships there's do sink ships and there's certainly the certainly sinking banks at the minute because share minute because their share pnces minute because their share prices well by prices have gone down. well by all as well. all means as well. >> performance in her job >> her performance in herjob was good, then she you know,

was good, but then she you know, maybe the fact that she's a woman is slightly relevant and she's gossiping. woman is slightly relevant and sheoh,)ssiping. woman is slightly relevant and sheoh, i'm)ing. woman is slightly relevant and sheoh, i'm not. woman is slightly relevant and sheoh, i'm not saying . >> oh, i'm not saying. >> oh, i'm not saying. >> certainly had a few >> well, she certainly had a few too many champagnes and something like a canary. but you can't . but that is the one rule can't. but that is the one rule you can't breach confidentiality. and she has to go. and i frankly believe the whole board should go. well i think so as well. >> i mean, how do you think about howard davies? he said he ain't going anywhere. he's planning his retirement anyway ain't going anywhere. he's pl.2024. his retirement anyway ain't going anywhere. he's pl.2024. idon'tirement anyway ain't going anywhere. he's pl.2024. idon't think1t anyway ain't going anywhere. he's pl.2024. idon't think he nyway ain't going anywhere. he's pl.2024. idon't think he should in 2024. i don't think he should get another penny. whilst get another penny. and whilst we're they resigned. so we're on it, they resigned. so they their severance they still get their severance pay they still get their severance pay like that. if pay and everything like that. if you sacked, of that you get sacked, a lot of that doesn't happen. you get sacked, a lot of that doeyeah.appen. you get sacked, a lot of that doeyeah. i)pen. you get sacked, a lot of that doeyeah. i mean mean the size >> yeah. i mean i mean the size of the, the, the golden, the golden going to be golden goodbye is going to be interesting bearing in interesting to watch bearing in mind owners. mind that we're owners. >> she should get >> i don't think she should get that that off. what about that that pay off. what about the lawyers as well lawyers that that pay off. what about the lshould as well lawyers that that pay off. what about the lshould not vell lawyers that that pay off. what about the lshould not be lawyers that that pay off. what about the lshould not be usingawyers that that pay off. what about the lshould not be using those. lawyers. >> come on. >>- >> come on. >> nobody mean, you know, >> did nobody i mean, you know, the is, it just the problem is, is it just doesn't even if they reach the right conclusions because they've got that background, nobody all should go. they all >> they all should go. they all should go and take away take should go and take away and take away the

away that payment, change the lawyers change the lawyers. >> it can't you can't >> it can't be that you can't have there. you can't make have them there. you can't make comments almost comments like that. it's almost as kangaroo court, as bad as the kangaroo court, which privileges which was the privileges committee right? well, you always akua. this always see i'm nana akua. this is tv, online and on is gb news on tv, online and on digital to come, digital radio. still to come, the british debate. this the great british debate. this houn hour. i'm asking is ulez labour's heel? now labour's achilles heel? now you'll have the thoughts of my panel and all those out there. don't forget to touch. don't forget to get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com we're live on tv online and digital radio. don't forget the appeal to cabbies. if you're out there in london, check the back of your car because we really want to find these ashes that are in an urn. left it in a black cab urn. they left it in a black cab somewhere. father there is somewhere. a father there is crying out for you. so stay tuned. be live. that tuned. we'll be live. all that all way all the way next. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. the next few days are going to retain the rather

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gb news. >> yeah , you're with me. i'm >> yeah, you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. if you've just joined us, welcome on board. it is fast approaching 24 minutes after 4:00. now, before the break, we were discussing the coots saga . were discussing the coots saga. let's see what you've been saying about the coots and obviously the failed or everything that's going wrong. there i've not seen there john says, i've not seen any of your presenters taking the treasury to task about punishing natwest group board. surely as the biggest shareholder, it's opinion should carry a great weight at shareholders meetings. if the government wished to represent the public, then they should take action. well, i've said it, i've said it and i'll say it again. i said it yesterday as well. actually what else is there ? nick says on emily there? nick says on emily maitlis . i think that emily maitlis. i think that emily maitlis. i think that emily maitlis is readying herself to stand for parliament. i don't think so. i first noticed her left wing views during the last

leader's debate where she totally was totally biased about boris. yeah, we'll keep those thoughts coming as well. vaiews@gbnews.uk that's time now for the great british debate. this out and i'm asking is ulez labour's achilles heel? one by conservative one by one, conservative ministers are urging the labour leader to step in and challenge the london mayor's plans to extend ulez zone . and now extend the ulez zone. and now yesterday, five tory led councils , they lost their high councils, they lost their high court challenge against sadiq khan's plan . the legality of it khan's plan. the legality of it was what was in question there, which means that drivers will pay which means that drivers will pay £12.50 a day if their cars don't meet the required emission standards . several tory mps, standards. several tory mps, including the business and transport secretaries and deputy prime minister, have since appealed to sir keir starmer calling out for him to do the right thing and stop the expansion. but is the labour leader declining to do so because he doesn't oppose the expansion or because the benefits of forcing the issue are not worth the cost ? so what are not worth the cost? so what do you think? get in touch

gbviews@gbnews.com. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is ulez labour's achilles heel? i'm joined now by bob boyle. he's the chairman for the alliance of british drivers. alan co—founder of alan miller, co—founder of together association. denis macshane , former minister macshane, former labour minister for europe , and spencer, for europe, and peter spencer, political commentator . all political commentator. all right, denis macshane, i'm going political commentator. all rigstart enis macshane, i'm going political commentator. all rigstart with macshane, i'm going political commentator. all rigstart with you shane, i'm going political commentator. all rigstart with you .1ane, i'm going to start with you. >> my view is very simple. >> my view is very simple. >> we could go i might have said yes , but i've been talking to yes, but i've been talking to tory mps and listening to people and i think the mood's changed very dramatically and the high court siddique's big win in the high court shows the direction of travel people want to get on top of not sort of global warming, but global boiling . warming, but global boiling. they don't want a tory mp yesterday thinking of moving from notting hill to wimbledon or richmond because every two weeks his window sill white window sill is covered in black particles to i'm taking out two grandchildren, two and a half years old, six months old. i don't want them to grow up in a

tory london poison with with black particles and the worst air pollution outside of turkey. >> so hang on a minute. first of all, what the win was actually whether or not it ulez was lawful, too. the extension was lawful. so it wasn't that was just a lawful aspect of it. so that's the bit there. but you talk about somebody with a nice place, a nice house with the windows. these aren't the people that are going to be affected by ulez i think that's that's ulez denis i think that's that's the issue a lot of people have. >> do agree, and i was in >> i do agree, and i was in uxbndge >> i do agree, and i was in uxbridge actually tweeted uxbridge and i actually tweeted at time, you probably at the time, you did probably didn't a couple of weeks didn't see it a couple of weeks before election, three cars before the election, three cars at every driveway , i think at every driveway, i think siddique's ulez may cost labour this seat. so that was my nose . this seat. so that was my nose. but i'm going to go to peter. >> i want to go to peter spencen >> i want to go to peter spencer, please . peter sir keir spencer, please. peter sir keir starmer is very unlucky in the uxbndge starmer is very unlucky in the uxbridge byelection in that at the very moment the punters were going to the polls, the ulez extension was about to happen to

them. >> so it was very much a now grumble . but it's worth grumble. but it's worth remembering that london has actually had london proper, has had ulez for years , and they had ulez for years, and they still managed to elect a london labour mayor to couple with that, it's worth remembering that, it's worth remembering that who announced ulez in the first place? a tory mayor, boris johnson and i suspect that i johnson and isuspectthati take johnson and i suspect that i take what what denis has just been saying about global boiling . there's going to be an awful lot of people who are be coming back in the next few weeks from seemingly hot holidays overseas and finding that it really wasn't very nice and global boiling really is happening and i coupled this with an opinion poll which was just a few days ago, which revealed this was they were asking tory voters who are switching to labour if they thought sunak was doing enough if to address the climate

change. the green issues and a clear majority said he was not doing enough and fewer than 1 in 10 said he'd gone too far. >> so let's get alan on. >> so let's get alan on. >> alan. >> alan. >> alan. >> alan miller well, we've >> alan. >> alan miller well , we've got >> alan miller well, we've got them all there, haven't we? >> we've got these polls where they ask very particular questions like i think everyone would say if you'd like a nice cleaner planet, would you like that? >> people would say yes. >> people would say yes. >> if you say to them, we're going to limit your income, your ability to move, your ability to see your family and your ability to they don't say to travel, then they don't say yes much. yes so much. >> this , you know, global >> this, you know, global boiling, know, let's not boiling, you know, let's not call global warming anymore . call it global warming anymore. >> global boiling. >> let's call it global boiling. let's it's undeniable. let's say it's undeniable. nothing about it. nothing you can do about it. here's thing. even if you go here's the thing. even if you go along with all of those things , along with all of those things, ulez has nothing to do with that . what ulez has to do with is charging certain vehicles a certain amount, and it will

happily carry charging them on. all right, so, sadiq would be like, well, i'll just charge you all. so even on the basis of its own logic, it isn't about doing anything. now the air that is in london over the last four decades has become immeasurably better. the engines in the cars have been trans formed and actually in the london is very different because we've got a logistics and transport system that people are used to and can get people out of london and the county is surrounding london is an entirely different proposition. people absolutely rely on their cars . 50% of vans rely on their cars. 50% of vans are not compliant at the moment. we have a situation this is going to be damaging to working people . well, labour know it. people. well, labour know it. the conservatives know it. and we're going to see now , because we're going to see now, because this judges making this isn't about judges making decisions about technicalities, we're to see the we're now going to see the pubuc we're now going to see the public much more involved public get much more involved with this. these are the new demarcation lines. >> get let's get bob >> let's get let's get bob bullen. yeah, i mean, bullen. bob yeah, i mean, i think alan's got it right.

>> it's a crazy thing to think by charging £12, 50, the air is going to get cleaner. >> if they can't afford to change their car and they can't afford to do anything about it and they've a living to and they've got a living to earn, going make earn, ain't going to make any difference. they're going difference. they're just going to £12, 50 have no no to collect £12, 50 have no no effect whatsoever. to collect £12, 50 have no no effe well, atsoever. to collect £12, 50 have no no effewell, what ver. to collect £12, 50 have no no effewell, what these are >> well, what these things are not effect not going to have any effect at all, dennis the other all, dennis well, the other thing know , if we're thing we should know, if we're really concerned about air and living conditions. >> firstly , they should get down >> firstly, they should get down to the london underground and transport for london because particles are enormously high and got and safety and we've got health and safety measures all of that that measures and all of that that are brought up several are being brought up on several occasions . and the other thing occasions. and the other thing is one thing that the mayor can do everyone's chuckling is do and everyone's chuckling is improve and should improve housing and we should have economy for wages. have a better economy for wages. we know that there's a direct correlation between wages and housing and income that is the demarcator for poverty. >> briefly, dennis well, very simply, we've got about 10s please. >> you're talking about everything under the sun. the housing problem, the wage problem is 30 years of a tory government . i'm not against what

government. i'm not against what you're saying but don't forget you're saying, but don't forget only 1 in 10 of the cars in uxbndge only 1 in 10 of the cars in uxbridge might face ulez. >> well, then what's the point? you want to know if it's only 1 in 10 cars? there's another reason why the tories say yesterday on any questions bbc radio there was a treasury minister and possibly rather say every everybody at oxford should have to pay ulez well, listen, just untrue. well, listen . well, just untrue. well, listen. well, he's got his figures wrong plenty of times. okay? so let's so very briefly then, i've got to ask you, it's a yes or no. yeah, but don't ramble on. so i'm going to ask you i'm going to dennis. you i'm going to ask you i'm going to show dennis. you i'm going to ask you i'm going to show them dennis. you i'm going to ask you i'm going to show them how nnis. you i'm going to ask you i'm going to show them how it's;. you i'm going to ask you i'm going to show them how it's done. is can show them how it's done. is it ulez sir keir starmer? >> i don't think so. yes. or no? no, no. >> see, even you got it wrong, bob. yes or no? yes alan, yes or no ? no? >> yes. and peter, yes or no? >>— >> yes. and peter, yes or no? >> absolutely no. okay there you go. well done. thank you very much . thank you so much. peter much. thank you so much. peter spence. also so dennis mcshane,

alan miller and bob bull, thank you so much. but there's their thoughts. what are yours? get in touch. gb views our gbnews.com i'd love hear what you think i'd love to hear what you think after break, we will after the break, we will continue great british after the break, we will continuthis great british after the break, we will continuthis out great british after the break, we will continuthis out and eat british after the break, we will continuthis out and i'm british after the break, we will continuthis out and i'm asking after the break, we will coulezthis out and i'm asking after the break, we will coulez labourt and i'm asking after the break, we will coulez labourt aulezn asking is ulez labour is ulez labour's achilles heel. you'll hear the thoughts of my panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, also former labour adviser matthew lazar. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . now. news headlines. now. >> thank you. the top stories this hour. two motorbikes have been recovered by police who are investigating a fatal hit and run incident in walsall in the west midlands says 18 year old catless seleznev was taken to hospital in a critical condition following the collision on thursday night. but she has since died of her injuries. a 14 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. he has now been released on bail but with strict conditions . rail services strict conditions. rail services are being disrupted once again today, with thousands of workers

walking off the job in a long running dispute. rmt members at 14 train operating companies are striking over pay and conditions . people are being advised to check before travelling in some areas only half of services are running in other areas there are no services at all and a former paratrooper has completed a 19,000 mile charity walk around the uk coastline . chris lewis the uk coastline. chris lewis was joined by hundreds of supporters as he crossed the finish line at llangennith beach in wales. the father of two has so far raised £500,000 for ssafa. that's the soldiers, sailors and airmen families association. he set off from the same spot six years ago with him a few supplies and a tenner and now he's back and thousands have gathered in belfast. largest ever pride parade today. the theme this year. stand by your trans with more than 250 groups signing up for the event, police officers taking part were asked not to wear their uniforms, but

they declined the offer. they cited impartiality. meanwhile crowds in liverpool took to the streets as the city there hosted a pride parade on behalf of ukraine. the city also held the eurovision song contest for the ukrainian capital, kyiv, in may this year . ukrainian capital, kyiv, in may this year. those are your latest news headlines. you are up to date, but if you want more , head date, but if you want more, head to our website gbnews.com . to our website gbnews.com. thank you, paulie, you're with me. >> i'm not going to quit on gb news. still to come in this week's difficult conversation an i'll be joined campaigner and i'll be joined by campaigner and activist rosamund adoo—kissi—debrah . now rothmans adoo—kissi—debrah. now rothmans nine daughter ella nine year old daughter ella tragically decade tragically passed away a decade ago to air pollution. her ago due to air pollution. her mother urging the government mother is urging the government to fast forward its plans to improve air quality from 2040 to 2030 in order to prevent other fatalities . but up next, the fatalities. but up next, the great british debate this hour

and i'm asking is ulez labour's achilles heel

oh, lovely. welcome back . just oh, lovely. welcome back. just a quick swig of swig of water. welcome back. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. we are the people's channel. i'm anna akua. if you just joined us. welcome. it's time now for our great british debate this houn our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking is ulez labour's achilles heel?

conservative ministers are urging the labour leader to challenge the london mayor's plans ultra low plans to extend the ultra low zone outer cover the zone to the outer to cover the entire capital. and this is after five tory led councils lost their high court challenge against sadiq khan's plan, which means that drivers will have to pay a means that drivers will have to pay a £12.50 a day charge if their car emissions don't reach standards. now several tory mps, including deputy prime minister, have called to sir keir starmer to do the right thing and stop the expansion. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is ulez labour's achilles heel ? let's see what my panel heel? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy also labour cundy and also former labour adviser monsieur lazhar, lizzie cundy. adviser monsieur lazhar, lizzie cundy . yes. what do you think ? cundy. yes. what do you think? >> well, i think keir starmer should take note of what happenedin should take note of what happened in uxbridge . i think he happened in uxbridge. i think he is definitely be taking advice from tony blair, who's come in saying about net zero and all of that. i wouldn't believe anything tony blair says took us

to war on a lion. costas 8 billion in blood and treasure. but obviously keir starmer is trying to like tony blair and trying to be like tony blair and failing miserably as he has no personality or charisma . but personality or charisma. but this it's harsh, but true. so can you put these in? but i think net zero has become the modern day pole tax. it really has. and enforcing these draconian , illogical policies draconian, illogical policies that are stopping our freedoms. i really think this is going to be the worst thing and we should fight against it. but i really think this is going to go against labour and wondering what captain flip flop is going to do about it. you might know. >> matt well, i'm not sure he knows yet. >> i mean, i think he doesn't even oh, he knows what woman is now, way, finally now, by the way, he finally found exactly. no, look, found out. exactly. no, look, two weeks ago be shouting two weeks ago you'd be shouting at didn't a woman at me. didn't know what a woman does. >> you'd thankful you >> you'd be thankful you defended though. defended him, though. >> mean, i certainly >> no, i mean, i certainly thought needed a policy thought labour needed a policy in place. thank goodness in place. and thank goodness we've definition we've got a definition of a woman a policy that is

woman and b a policy that is defensible. even if not everybody with so everybody agrees with it on so long mean, look, long to. yeah, i mean, look, it's good. shouldn't it it's not good. it shouldn't it shouldn't have look, shouldn't have taken look, if i you him i think you know we saw him i think finally was with nikki finally it was with nikki campbell that did it. and it campbell that he did it. and it reminded of when used to reminded me of when i used to take ed miliband radio take ed miliband around radio studios shows, including studios and tv shows, including nicky salford. nicky campbell's in salford. and you had question you know, if we had a question like dogging us for like that was dogging us for three would have found like that was dogging us for thr answer. would have found like that was dogging us for thr answer. yeah./ould have found like that was dogging us for thr answer. yeah./ould ha ed's,jnd an answer. yeah. despite ed's, you . so i think, i you know exactly. so i think, i don't know. you know exactly. so i think, i dor kids. yw. you know exactly. so i think, i dor kids. do you know exactly. so i think, i dorkids. do think know? exactly. >> so i don't know why they didn't. i don't know why they didn't. i don't know why they didn't. you know, sort themselves out because themselves out sooner because it's just they've it's clearly it's just they've just away. it's embarrassing. >> embarrassing. are >> it's embarrassing. people are looking saying, and you looking at this saying, and you are the are going to be running the country. say what are going to be running the c(woman. say what a woman. >> well, can now, but it >> well, he can now, but it shouldn't have should shouldn't have taken it should have taken three. >> shouldn't have three >> it shouldn't have taken three years he went, yeah, years on lbc when he went, yeah, l, years on lbc when he went, yeah, i, i actually can't watch that. >> i can't not sure he can. >> i can't i'm not sure he can. >>— >> i can't i'm not sure he can. » .— >> i can't i'm not sure he can. >> i spared that clip. >> i spared us that clip. >> i spared us that clip. >> i spared us that clip. >> i mean , the. no, >> absolutely. i mean, the. no, no. i mean, you're right in that it's i think it plays into is this idea of flip flop is this idea that he changes his mind. and, you know, i mean, wes

streeting who, you know , maybe streeting who, you know, maybe he felt more comfortable talking about these things as a gay man, but ulez came out with, about these things as a gay man, but ulez came outwith, you know, with the definition of a woman away and managed woman straight away and managed to close it down. so he didn't get in those kind you get asked in those kind of, you know, whenever he did. so i think his advisers, you think that his advisers, you know, need to me. but know, they need to hire me. but if keir's advisers need to make sure they after what you sure they will after what you just they won't. just said, no, they won't. so either going a either i'm not going to get a knighthood either. >> you just talked yourself out of then coming gb of a job, then coming on gb news, going get banged. news, i'm going to get banged. >> out of a >> i'm talking myself out of a job. but it's worth it's worth. >> w- w what they're worth. >> what they're saying >> i wonder what they're saying about me. i can't wait to spend my i'm going get good. but. but back to back to ulez >> but. but back to back to ulez and labour's problem. >> it's extraordinary. >> i think it's extraordinary. and you know, two ago, and you know, two years ago, three when labour's three years ago, when labour's problem was it the problem was towns, it was the red the of red wall, it was the north of england midlands. england and the midlands. it wasn't london was wasn't the cities. london was taken, taken for , taken taken, taken for, taken for granted. the last bits of granted. tick the last bits of blue in london would turn red at the next election. didn't have to worry about it all had to be about the north. now labour's in about the north. now labour's in a right pickle and particularly

sadiq for election sadiq is up for election re—election and he's and re—election in may and he's and the key thing is the voting system is changing now that may sound very boring, but it makes the chances being beaten the chances of him being beaten higher because what happens is before could vote for before people could vote for whoever one, before people could vote for who then one, before people could vote for who then put one, before people could vote for who then put number one, before people could vote for who then put number two one, before people could vote for who then put number two for, and then they put number two for their second choice and all the people voted lib dem or people who voted lib dem or green, they kind of had labourers. second, had labourers. second, they had labourers. second, they had labour and labour second. absolutely. and now animal olympics who now animal olympics person who came the race. even >> every race won the race. even though people came first and now. >> and m..- now. >> and it will just be first >> and now it will just be first past the post like westminster election. so that election. so i think that there's real for labour there's a real danger for labour and is, is what and what's happened is, is what should you know, should have been, you know, labour would not have been expecting hard fight expecting to have a hard fight on or to have to spend on its hands or to have to spend any political effort on any money or political effort on the mayoral election. and any money or political effort on the it's mayoral election. and any money or political effort on the it's going|yoral election. and any money or political effort on the it's going to ral election. and any money or political effort on the it's going to haveection. and any money or political effort on the it's going to have to. on. and now it's going to have to. >> well, it's so >> well, i think it's so disgusting khan because disgusting with khan because he's is a cash he's done it. this is a cash grab, isn't it? is for him. grab, isn't it? it is for him. and he's doing it all the and he's doing it all for the wrong reasons because he hasn't budgeted what's budgeted properly. and what's awful, it's affecting those on the afield the outskirts and further afield and ever voted for and they haven't ever voted for this never voted for this man and never voted for this. really is a tragedy. this. it really is a tragedy. and i'm going to fight against

it with every two i think he's got because it's affecting those the and he no has he has >> and he has no he has he has nothing say to them. i mean, nothing to say to them. i mean, he doesn't have any there's no kind conversation kind of conversation happen. >> obsessed >> but why is he so obsessed with pollution? how about with air pollution? how about him concentrate on knife crime and what's and drugs? gangs all what's going lawless london at going on in lawless london at the minute? >> oh, if he really is going to focus on air pollution, then perhaps he'd consider looking at the network. the the stinky tube network. the underground, which that's the worst is where all worst that is where all the all the and pollutants the particulates and pollutants are it's disgusting. are there. it's disgusting. >> get your mask out. your >> get your mask out. get your mask do much . at >> that doesn't do much. at least i'll feel better, though. >> airport , i mean, there's >> the airport, i mean, there's so other but again so many other things. but again , again, hitting the , yet again, he's hitting the motorists . does he want all motorists. does he want us all to walk? sorry he can't care, though. doesn't care . and though. he doesn't care. and that's thing. he's that's the whole thing. he's about and money. about himself and making money. i partly because in i think it's partly because in london labour forgot london i think labour forgot that working in that there's a working class in london, particularly sort of white class outer london. >> it forgot about it and it thought that it was to, going you know, let's just take london for granted. >> problem with this is

>> but the problem with this is that aren't london that the ulez aren't just london wide. see they're coming. wide. you see they're coming. this angela rayner this is why. and angela rayner said, have said, as much well you know have everywhere i'll be everywhere you know i'll be everywhere you know i'll be everywhere can't tell everywhere now you can't tell i'm a mancunian. >> take the mickey. >> you can't take the mickey. >> you can't take the mickey. >> i'm to next the >> i'm going to do the next the next contribution accent for next contribution in accent for you. >> i'll tell you what, bobby davro is to be worried. davro is going to be worried. that very impression. that was a very good impression. >> the >> they probably got the recorded clip of in on recorded clip of me in on natwest why bank natwest and wonder why bank with that'll this that'll be. she did this and that'll be. she did this and that she her arm. she that and she waved her arm. she can't a bank. can't have a bank. >> a great, great, great >> she's a great, great, great woman >> she's a great, great, great worright. this shows >> right. well this shows nothing without you and your views. no account for me. >> stopping you now. >> there's no stopping you now. >> there's no stopping you now. >> there's no stopping you now. >> there's no stopping now . >> there's no stopping me now. i'm going to get a subject access request that lot as access request from that lot as well, know well, because i want to know what saying me. what they're saying about me. can't see it. but this. what they're saying about me. can'tshows see it. but this. what they're saying about me. can'tshows nothing but this. what they're saying about me. can'tshows nothing without;. what they're saying about me. can'tshows nothing without you. this shows nothing without you. this shows nothing without you. this opportunity to get this is your opportunity to get on the show and tell us what you think about the we're think about the topics we're discussing. think about the topics we're disygo?ing. think about the topics we're disygo? bristol? love having a we go? bristol? i love having a chat with leigh harris. hello leigh. come on, let's talk leigh. well, come on, let's talk about this, this whole situation with sadiq khan. ulez ulez you lose . lose. >> yeah. mean, is it labour's achilles heel? i think it's

certainly is. >> nana . i certainly is. >> nana. i mean, it's an, isn't it an utterly bizarre situation that we find ourselves in. >> i think in the same week we've had the de—banking scandal where labour have come out and defended the banks ordinary defended the banks over ordinary working sadiq working people, we've had sadiq khan ahead with ulez khan pressing ahead with ulez despite the it's a direct despite the fact it's a direct attack poorest in society attack on the poorest in society . and then had angela rayner . and then we had angela rayner telling that telling everyone that ulez is coming town and city coming to every town and city across the uk. >> going to set her off >> you're going to set her off again. >> a very strange turn of events, you know, optics for labour been terrible , so labour have been terrible, so i missed that. >> it's , it's just my little gag >> it's, it's just my little gag about if i do this, they've probably got a cut and paste link to me doing this at n atwe st. natwest. >> then i'm the one to be >> then i'm the next one to be debunked because i've it's debunked because i've done it's not impression debunked because i've done it's not good impression debunked because i've done it's not good to impression debunked because i've done it's not good to anyway. impression debunked because i've done it's not good to anyway. sorry. ssion debunked because i've done it's not good to anyway. sorry. goyn very good to anyway. sorry. go on. go on. sorry >> you were saying david lammy went viral on twitter this week after gleefully announcing on his show ulez was his radio show that ulez was going to go ahead showing absolutely no sympathy for a struggling working class family who called in and will directly suffer from the ulez expansion. it astonishing watch , you it was astonishing to watch, you

know, direct action know, through the direct action of their own mps, labour have exemplified just how disconnect they've become to ordinary working people . working people. >> well, you know what? there was also he also he also got was also he also got he also got reprimanded by a caller about what was saying. and what he was saying. and i thought it was very if thought it was very good. if i can that, i might that can get that, i might do that and that lee and play that sometime. lee harris, as ever, always wonderful you. lee wonderful to talk to you. lee harris, a great british voice he sure a great voice. sure is a great voice. >> shop. be >> bristol is the shop. be quiet. to going write. >> bristol is the shop. be quiyyou're to going write. >> bristol is the shop. be quiyyou're with going write. >> bristol is the shop. be quiyyou're with me. g write. >> bristol is the shop. be quiyyou're with me. berrite. >> bristol is the shop. be quiyyou're with me. be quiet. >> you're with me. be quiet. he's new. he doesn't know you're with me. i'm nana akua on gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come at five, it's a difficult conversation . i'll be joined by conversation. i'll be joined by campaigner and activist singh as we are talking about ulez rosamund adoo—kissi—debrah rosamund's nine year old daughter ella. tragically passed away decade ago due to air away a decade ago due to air pollution. her mother is urging the government fast forward the government to fast forward its improve air quality its plans to improve air quality from 2040 to 2030 in order to prevent other fatalities of a similar nature. but first, let's get some weather .

get some weather. >> the temperature is rising . >> the temperature is rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office the next few days are going to retain the rather unsettled feel that we have had over much of july so far. low pressure is still with us through this weekend centre towards the north—west of the uk for those isobars squeezing for now, those isobars squeezing together , allowing for some together, allowing for some quite winds throughout quite blustery winds throughout today into tomorrow well today and into tomorrow as well , western , particularly along western and northern areas. showers northern coastal areas. showers will continuing throughout will be continuing throughout the night for northern ireland, western eventually western scotland, eventually into parts northwest england into parts of northwest england as for the rest of as well. but for the rest of england generally, england and wales generally, some developing some clearer spells developing for though, it won't for most of us, though, it won't be chilly overnight. be too chilly overnight. temperatures around temperatures holding up around 12 14 c. we temperatures holding up around 1214 c. we might drop into 1214 c. but we might drop into single rural single figures in some rural areas of north east scotland. showers from the word go as we kick off sunday for central southern scotland and north west england as well. some of those could be at times, maybe could be heavy at times, maybe

with odd rumble of thunder with the odd rumble of thunder causing surface spray causing some surface spray issues. then the cloud will be building southwest building from the southwest later with outbreaks of rain later on, with outbreaks of rain spreading across wales, southwest into southwest england and into northern ireland later on as well. temperatures held back underneath cloud and underneath that cloud and starting increasingly starting to feel increasingly humid sticky, low 20s humid and sticky, but low 20s possible across the far east of scotland and england into monday, rain will still be monday, that rain will still be lingering in places generally, it'll grey, drizzly it'll be quite a grey, drizzly day from the central belt of scotland, southwards some brisk winds the english coastal winds across the english coastal channels as well . we've got to channels as well. we've got to get used to it because there'll channels as well. we've got to getfurthero it because there'll channels as well. we've got to getfurther showersuse there'll channels as well. we've got to getfurther showers ass there'll channels as well. we've got to getfurther showers as we are'll channels as well. we've got to getfurther showers as we end. channels as well. we've got to getfurther showers as we end the be further showers as we end the month well. otherwise, month as well. otherwise, enjoy the day. bye bye. the rest of your day. bye bye. >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. so solar. proud sponsors of weather on. gb news. so coming up in the next hour, as police promise to investigate every crime, which is what they should be doing. >> do you still have faith in them? but next, it's our weekly royal roundup and angela levin will be live

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gb news. i'm nana o'quinn. there's always something going on in the royal household and this week has been no different. on the high court, judge has ruled that of sussex ruled that the duke of sussex can a claim against the can bring a claim against the sun and fashion expert suzy menken has claimed that the princess of wales takes no joy in fashion due to her jewellery sense. so every sunday, saturday, even i like to give you a rundown. who better to do so than angela levin, royal biographer. angela. >> shall we start with >> hello. shall we start with the harry and the court case? yes, i that preference. yes, i know that preference. well i was really annoyed that i thought when the judge says what he was saying about the royal family he and top people in the press world was is absolutely impossible . impossible. >> he couldn't believe it. >> he couldn't believe it. >> and i thought to myself, there is harry trying to slash them in any way he can in and getting involved in something thatis getting involved in something that is really revolting, actually. >> well, he was saying that they

were briefing the press and there was agreement . there was agreement. >> oh, they were. they were an agreement. private agreement. >> oh, they were. they were an ag|henent. private agreement. >> oh, they were. they were an ag|he couldn't)rivate agreement. >> oh, they were. they were an ag|he couldn't complain'eement. >> oh, they were. they were an ag|he couldn't complain about1t. so he couldn't complain about other things that were going wrong in newspapers, but wrong in the newspapers, but also total mistrust of his also that total mistrust of his family saying that they had no sense of honour and the judge said to him, you know, it's impossible. l don't believe it. but and you could have found that out very, very easily if you'd taken the trouble to look things up. it was very clear. so he got a real slap in the face. he has got one aspect that he with the sun that that can continue next year . with the sun that that can continue next year. but mostly he's got this completely out. the judge won't have anything to do with it, which should make him very, very , you know, his him very, very, you know, his humility should be immediately sort of drowning in and he won't because he feels that it's not fair and he's unhappy. but it just shows you . how unpleasant just shows you. how unpleasant he is. now, what's he would do

anything? well, we know what's happened to him. oh, yeah . you happened to him. oh, yeah. you know, he's so unpleasant to his family and they haven't deserved that. and i think when you attack your family and that sort of way, that they have no moral compass, that it's actually appalling. you should. but he's angry at the press, isn't he? >> he's angry at the press, but he's angry with them. >> he's angry at the press, but he"i angry with them. >> he's angry at the press, but he"i mean, with them. >> he's angry at the press, but he"i mean, he| them. >> he's angry at the press, but he"i mean, he actually put them >> i mean, he actually put them in that they had sort in with it. that they had a sort of secret engagement . so that of secret engagement. so that makes worse that they makes it even worse that they were allowed the press to actually get into his phones and find out what he saying . but the find out what he saying. but the other thing i heard, i'm not 100% sure is that actually they didn't ask the queen whether they could call lilibet. lilibet oh, really? yes. >> where did you hear that? >> where did you hear that? >> who said i heard that from somebody quite close. and the queen was very, very, very upset that they used the name . she that they used the name. she didn't want the news, the name she wanted to keep it with prince philip . and i've tried to

prince philip. and i've tried to find out that actually that it's really true . and the people really true. and the people i have spoken to say it is they just told her and that was it, which again, is callous. >> well, if it's true, we should check with some sources and we'll come back on that one. but yes , catherine, princess catherine. >> yes. suzy menkes , who's a >> yes. suzy menkes, who's a phenomenal royal reporter, not a a fashion reporter and she said that it was very disappointed in catherine, that she wore very cheap earrings. but those earrings that catherine wear, which cost about £25, she started wearing them when a mother long lost her teenage child and she gave them to catherine to wear so that she would remember them. and whenever she sees women who've got very ill children or , you got very ill children or, you know, teenagers, she wears these earrings that are in the same category she does. if you ever see her on an important occasion, she's really dressed

up to the hills. she looks absolutely gorgeous . but she's absolutely gorgeous. but she's not somebody who feels that she needs to be flamboyant . camilla needs to be flamboyant. camilla loves that. i mean, she loves wearing jewellery and the queen's jewellery . and she looks queen's jewellery. and she looks very lovely in it. but catherine is not doing it because she's got a poor taste. she's doing it actually as a sign that she's actually as a sign that she's actually thinking about it, these mothers. so what of this designer then? >> surely she's learnt why catherine is wearing the earrings. i mean, anyway, why should catherine wear. >> i know susie very well actually. and she. i think it's actually. and she. i think it's a silly error of hers . she a silly error of hers. she wouldn't do that. i mean she's very cautious about fashion and she's been very positive. but she's been very positive. but she actually made a blunder. i think she needs to sort that out. >> really, the last thing. >> really, the last thing. >> have i got time? i've got about 20s. >> andrew you can do it, though. >> andrew you can do it, though. >> you're all pro charles and camilla sandringham flower camilla at sandringham flower show day before they go off show the day before they go off to scotland for the week . a

to scotland for the week. a woman made pie. that's woman made a pie. that's supposed to look like prince charles. camilla burst out laughing . she went over and hold laughing. she went over and hold it. prince. king charles back. and the two of them were giggling. and i thought, you know what a way to be royal like that. that's so open and funny. and they just really enjoyed themselves so much that they couldn't stop laughing and what he looked like very good . he looked like very good. >> angela levin, always a pleasure. thank you so much. thatis pleasure. thank you so much. that is andrew levin, royal biographer. if you just joined us, been? us, where have you been? this is gb are the people's gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. there's loads come in the next loads more to come in the next hour. houn well, it's 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes of the big topics hitting the headlines right now on the way at 5:00. it's this week's difficult conversation. i'll be joined by a campaigner and

activist rosamund adoo—kissi—debrah. rosamund nine year old daughter ella, tragically passed away a decade ago air pollution . we'll ago due to air pollution. we'll be talking to her in be discussing talking to her in difficult conversations next. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . now. news headlines. now. >> thank you and good afternoon to you. our top story from the newsroom today, two motorbikes have been recovered by police investigating a fatal hit and run incident in walsall in the west midlands. run incident in walsall in the west midlands . seven year old west midlands. seven year old caitlin celeste was taken to hospital in a critical condition following the collision on thursday night, but she later died of her injuries. thursday night, but she later died of her injuries . a 14 year died of her injuries. a 14 year old boy was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . he's now been dangerous driving. he's now been released on bail with strict conditions as enquiries continue . rail services are being disrupted again today with thousands of workers walking off the job in a long running

dispute over pay. rmt members at 14 train operating companies are striking and passengers are being advised to check before travelling in some areas, only half the services are running, while others have no services at all. and delays at the port of dover today have been reduced . dover today have been reduced. we understand holidaymakers now waiting about 45 minutes for french border checks as queues have been, though up to nine lanes wide . early on today, lanes wide. early on today, traffic backed up almost as far as folkestone . officials are as folkestone. officials are saying 70,000 passengers, though , did go through the port of dover this morning. let's turn our attention to the united states now, where the republican presidential candidates shared the stage for the first time as they fought for support at a rally in iowa. take a listen . rally in iowa. take a listen. one could end up going to prison . on perhaps not the right choice of music . as donald trump

choice of music. as donald trump got on the stage. but despite facing new criminal charges, donald trump was the one to hit out at his rival, rhonda santos. he told the crowd, don't take a chance on the florida governor and will hurd was the only candidate to criticise mr trump. but he was booed after saying the former president was running to stay out of prison . donald to stay out of prison. donald trump said he's the victim of a witch hunt . witch hunt. >> if i weren't running, i would have nobody coming after me or if i was losing by a lot, i would have nobody coming after me. together, we will crush crooked joe biden, the most crooked president in the history of our country by far, and also grossly incompetent. doesn't know what he's doing. he's destroying our country. we will win the election big and we will make america great again. thank you . you. >> now, a cargo ship carrying thousands of cars has been burning off the dutch coast since tuesday. one crew member died and seven others were injured as they jumped overboard

to escape the flames . the dutch to escape the flames. the dutch coastguard is saying the cause of the fire isn't yet known . of the fire isn't yet known. however, a recording released by the broadcaster for rtl locally here shows an emergency responder saying it started in the battery of an electric car for the vessel, which was travelling from germany to egypt, is now just drifting here. labour has accused the government of an unforgivable lack of urgency over the needs of rape victims. it says the tory party has failed to implement key recommendations made in two reports dating back to 2021. the criminal justice joint inspectorate has urged the government now to launch specialist rape courts and give victims the opportunities to make personal statements . make personal statements. environmental groups are warning the prime minister they won't stand by if ministers attempt to water down environmental and climate commitments. a joint letter has been sent to rishi sunak from organisations

including the national trust and the rspb. they say they could mobilise their members and they're demanding an urgent meeting. it comes after conservative success in the uxbndge conservative success in the uxbridge and south ruislip by—election led to some mps to call for a rethink over the push for net zero by 2050. now former paratrooper has complete did a 19,000 mile charity walk around the uk coastline. chris lewis was joined by hundreds of supporters as he crossed the finish line at clan guinness at the beach in wales. the father of two so far raised £500,000 for ssafa. that's the soldiers , for ssafa. that's the soldiers, sailors and airmen, family association. mr lewis set off from the same point six years ago with only a few supplies and just £10 in his pocket. he said he never stopped believing in himself . himself. >> that's the main lesson of all is, you know, certainly for people that have been suffering

with any mental health issues, is to have a focus , you know, is to have a focus, you know, something that you can focus something that you you can focus on just pursue it. don't let on and just pursue it. don't let anybody tell you you can't and, you know, have a bit of faith in yourself. all the parts of this journey where people said that i shouldn't do it, it's never been done or anything like this. they're love done or anything like this. the most. love done or anything like this. the most. so love done or anything like this. the most. so if love done or anything like this. the most. so if i'd love done or anything like this. the most. so if i'd havelove the most. so if i'd have listened to them, would have listened to them, i would have missed that. missed out on all of that. >> now, thousands of people taking in belfast. >> now, thousands of people taking in belfast . largest taking part in belfast. largest ever pride parade today . the ever pride parade today. the theme this year stand by your trans with more than 250 groups signing up for the event. police officers taking part were asked not to wear their uniforms, but the police service of northern ireland said they had to remain impartial. meanwhile crowds in liverpool took to the streets as the city there hosted a pride parade on behalf of ukraine. the city also held the eurovision song contest for the ukrainian caphal song contest for the ukrainian capital, kyiv, in may. this yeah capital, kyiv, in may. this year. you're up to date. more news as it happens. back now to nana akua .

nana akua. >> good afternoon. if you just join me, where on earth have you been? it's fast approaching. seven minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting headlines big topics hitting the headlines right now. this is all big topics hitting the headlines right ropinions is all big topics hitting the headlines right ropinion. is all big topics hitting the headlines right ropinion . it's is all big topics hitting the headlines right ropinion . it's mine,l big topics hitting the headlines right ropinion . it's mine, it's about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. course, it's theirs. and of course, it's yours we'll debating, yours. we'll be debating, discussing, times we will discussing, and at times we will disagree. one will be disagree. but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is author and columnist lizzie cundy, also political commentator. no , it's not. commentator. sam, no, it's not. it's actually matthew lhasa . it's actually matthew lhasa. this week's difficult conversation is on the way. i'll be speaking to campaigner and activist rosamund adoo—kissi—debrah , who will be adoo—kissi—debrah, who will be in studio rosamund nine in the studio now. rosamund nine year old daughter ella travel weekly after weekly passed away after suffering asthma attack suffering a severe asthma attack a ago due to air a decade ago due to air pollution. then on the way , the pollution. then on the way, the great british this out great british debate this out and do you still and i'm asking do you still have faith police after years faith in our police after years of overlooking lower level

offences and petty crime , the offences and petty crime, the police force of today promised to investigate every crime , to investigate every crime, which is what i thought they would do anyway . ministers would do anyway. ministers wanting them dramatically wanting them to dramatically improve their rates of solving . improve their rates of solving. so get in touch as ever. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. it's not gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. it's not time for this week's difficult conversation. ella ella adoo—kissi—debrah was just nine years old when she tragically passed away after suffering a severe asthma attack. now she was the first person in britain to have air pollution listed on her death certificate as one of the causes now living conditions affecting children's health is all too pressing, especially given the story of a two year old awaab isaac, who passed away from mould, which was confirmed when that happened. and ella's mother, rosamund , has been mother, rosamund, has been campaigning for clean air ever since she set up the ella roberta family foundation action

in order to get her message across to the public, as well as aiming to help other children who are affected by asthma. and rosamond campaign signed for a second coroner's inquest into the death of her daughter to find out whether the air pollution a part. and pollution played a part. and after several coroner after several years, the coroner determined . in 2020 that it had determined. in 2020 that it had and campaigning has also led to the expansion of low emission zones in london. that's ulez. we've been discussing that earlier. rosamund is currently set sights on changing the set her sights on changing the government's of reducing government's goal of reducing air pollution from 2040 to 2030. well, i'm pleased to say that rosamund joins me now live in the studio. she's here. rosamund hello, nana. right. so you may have been listening to our debate with breath earlier debate with bated breath earlier because people are not because a lot of people are not happy about that. ulez extension. what would you say to them ? them? >> i would say sorry, because whenever you bring in a scheme, even if there wasn't a cost of living crisis , it will always living crisis, it will always affect someone. the people i am

concerned about are the disabled who have been in contact and some of them have said they can't access the scheme . so can't access the scheme. so that's something that i will be looking at in discussing that with the mayor of london. i just need to clarify a couple of points . this is about it being points. this is about it being he's filling the gap in his budget. >> this is sadiq khan. >> this is sadiq khan. >> he is not allowed to . it is >> he is not allowed to. it is ring fenced and people say, how do you know that? because i do. because i find out because the mayor of london is one of the parties in my late daughter's inquest. it the government, inquest. it is the government, the london and our the mayor of london and our local council where we live. he can use some of the ulez money to maybe do buses or anything to do with ulez. but he absolutely is not allowed to use it to fill a hole in the budget. i think there's been a bit of a misunderstanding thing over the whole issue with grunge maps. grant shapps might have said to him, you want more money me, him, if you want more money me, then you're going to have to extend ulez but he i don't think

he to him, use the he said to him, you can use the ulez money grant shapps say that though. >> we don't that grant >> we don't know that grant well, were some things well, there were some things dunng well, there were some things during the pandemic when the mayor of london, obviously due to travelling the to people not travelling on the underground, they were losing money wasn't part of that money and i wasn't part of that conversation . conversation. >> triple checked it >> but i have triple checked it and he's not allowed to use the ulez money for that. so i just wanted to let you people who wanted to let let you people who are that are questioning and saying that sadiq is doing that, sadiq khan is doing that, he's not allowed. sadiq khan is doing that, he's not he'sned. sadiq khan is doing that, he's not he's not doing that. but >> he's not doing that. but didn't you say you were talking to sadiq khan earlier today or was yesterday as well? >> i have been in contact when so i actually i was so i was actually i was listening to david lammy when he made that announcement. listening to david lammy when he made that announcement . yes. and made that announcement. yes. and my reaction was i cried. isn't that interesting? that's that's how and by the way, it had the same feeling as when we won the inquest. i was quite surprised because i didn't know how i was going to react. because i didn't know how i was going to react . and i think we going to react. and i think we have been speaking about outer london quite a lot, but i need to bring it to your attention

and thank you for bringing me on here because i get opposite here because i get the opposite community we live . the community where we live. the south divide is two south circular divide is two roads and my road is in the ulez zone. roads and my road is in the ulez zone . the south circular isn't zone. the south circular isn't and the next road onwards, going into catford, there is no ulez there . there. >> you see, that's the thing that all this will do is push it again outside to other people who will be on the edge of the ulez again. i mean, i don't think anyone would disagree with you with regard to clean air. >> no, no, no one has actually agrees. >> everyone an i agree. >> everyone an i agree. >> no one has. there hasn't been one person. but it is it is the manner. but i always knew by the way, this was going to be difficult. and because i was the one who had the conversation with sadiq again and don't with sadiq again and i don't know whether he would want me to tell tell me, but it he tell you, tell me, but it he wasn't he knew it was going to be unpopular. and you're not going to believe this now. he wasn't jumping and down wasn't jumping up, up and down when said , this is something when i said, this is something you've because he you've got to do, because he must have thought was going you've got to do, because he m|happen thought was going you've got to do, because he m|happen now.ght was going you've got to do, because he m|happen now. so was going you've got to do, because he

m|happen now. so those going to happen now. so all those people yeah, he's people who thought, yeah, he's gone. he is legally gone. and also he is legally obligated because in the inquest which the british public paid for, one of the things that came out of it was he had to even in court. that's that's what the recommendation was, that he had to extend it in court. >> well , can to extend it in court. >> well, can you tell sadiq, sadiq, if you're watching now, sadiq, if you're watching now, sadiq, why you come onto sadiq, why don't you come onto my show to us about my show and talk to us about this? know, you want to get this? you know, you want to get your across and talk your message across and talk about why, you know, why with so much from five much objection from five councils that they're much objection from five cou happy that they're much objection from five cou happy with that they're much objection from five cou happy with it, that they're much objection from five cou happy with it, why at they're much objection from five cou happy with it, why you've're not happy with it, why you've pushed you pushed ahead with it, then you can talk to us about can come and talk to us about it. we do understand it. but we do understand that everyone wants clean air, but i think manner with which think it's the manner with which it's speed it's been done and the speed with which been done. and it's been done and the speed withhilst| been done. and it's been done and the speed withhilst we, been done. and it's been done and the speed withhilst we, you n done. and it's been done and the speed withhilst we, you know,e. and it's been done and the speed withhilst we, you know, you d the whilst we, you know, you don't you want to don't want to you don't want to like said, you're concerned like you said, you're concerned about the disabled and people who can't get access to any concessions it concessions that will make it easier them. there's plenty easier for them. there's plenty of trapped the of people who are trapped in the crossfire nana. crossfire of this nana. >> a really difficult >> it's a really difficult balance. say speed , balance. when you say speed, there are a quarter of a million children in london who've got asthma, who've been diagnosed

with it. and every year up to 12 die. and i'm going to launch a campaign with with the doctors called ask about asthma and that's for the second week in september because when kids go back school the second week back to school the second week in in september is when most children admitted with children are admitted with asthma. right. and my hope and prayers are, as you can imagine , no one's going to die. and every time a child dies from asthma, i to about it. asthma, i get to hear about it. yeah. so i come a different yeah. so i come from a different side to this. look, people are going to come on here, talk to you about business, talk to you about economics . that is not about economics. that is not what i'm here to do . so what i'm here to. to do. so i think just need concern think we just need to my concern is our health is about the lung cancers. it's about the breast cancers. it's about the breast cancers. it's about the miscarriages. it's about cardio vascular disease. every time there's a spike in air pollution, more people will go into hospital with asthma attacks and heart attacks. that's my concern. other people can come on here as before they did to make . that's not why i am did to make. that's not why i am here. so. so nana isn't giving

me an easy time. but i have come in here. for me, it's the public health message and last year, sir chris whitty, his actual annual annual report was about air pollution and health. now for a chief medical officer to dedicate his annual report to this topic means there is a problem and we can't live in a caphal problem and we can't live in a capital. you and i know we both love this this city so much. the fact that 12 children die . i'm fact that 12 children die. i'm sorry it doesn't sit well with me, nor does it sit well with anybody . anybody. >> and i think everybody wants to see this. something done about the air. i don't think there's anybody all the gb news viewers, listeners and everyone , most of us all want really good air. they're about it. >> there is no easy way, though. >> there is no easy way, though. >> but yeah, go on. he has to do it way. if he's going to do it in a way. if he's going to do it, that to consider what it, that has to consider what people want as well people around want as well because it's. well, you know, i my to you, but my heart goes out to you, but there a lot of people who there were a lot of people who objected and he didn't get a

complete didn't complete heart. he didn't get a he didn't get a majority of people agreeing with him. and isn't that the vote? people didn't agree with didn't all vote to agree with him. that, yes, we him. so i think that, yes, we need do it. suppose, but he need to do it. i suppose, but he needs to stretch it out longer . needs to stretch it out longer. >> no, he can't. >>— >> no, he can't. >> he can't. why not? >> he can't. why not? >> why not? because he has people like me on his case. but i'm being really honest with you, though. i'm being really honest with youit'sough. that you're. >> it's good that you're. >> it's good that you're. >> a child >> because every time a child dies, that phone. hello dies, i find that phone. hello and i wish there was an easier way is to do with emissions. and the emission comes from diesel cars. what i would like to know is why has volkswagen not paid any compensation to anybody in this country? is there proof that they've done something? yeah, they are. they are in jail. >> they're in jail. >> they're in jail. >> they're in jail. >> they're in jail because they fiddled >> they're in jail because they fiddlecyou're saying that we >> so you're saying that we remember when remember that actually when they changed it changed the emissions, made it look to pass? look like for cars to pass? there are. it was proven. there you are. it was proven. yes, that's right. and were they meant be paying compensation? meant to be paying compensation? i fully i haven't researched that fully , “0, i haven't researched that fully , no, should be. that's , but no, they should be. that's what i'm saying to you. i don't i don't disagree with that. i think people are fiddling

think if people are fiddling something and they get by something and they get caught by doing that, any any doing that, then any any problems as a result problems that occur as a result , they should absolutely be brought. that's brought. perhaps that's something will be happening something that will be happening or you pushing or we'll say, are you pushing for are you? for that? are you? >> no, not right my >> no, not not right now. my immediate concern was ulez and i have listened to you. i will go back. like i said, i had already spoken to sadiq . he has extended spoken to sadiq. he has extended it. it's now everyone who gets child benefit . but i saw someone child benefit. but i saw someone who is disabled and they said they can't access it and i need to go and make sure that is right before i actually go go to him to see whether that is true. and i and apparently he has extended it now more extended it now to more charities . look, ultimately, the charities. look, ultimately, the government isn't. so here. now comes the tricky part. who is responsible for the air we breathe? the government , the breathe? the government, the mayor's office and the council . mayor's office and the council. >> and even before that, they made all buy diesel cars made us all buy diesel cars because was supposed be because that was supposed to be the way forward. and it turns out spawn satan. out it was the spawn of satan. >> they are all >> it was. but they are all responsible. of responsible. and one of the issues i have is the government have given money towards the

scrappage to cities scrappage scheme to cities outside london outside of london. we in london pay outside of london. we in london pay excise duty. pay more vehicle excise duty. why isn't the government adding on to siddique's 110 why isn't the government adding on to siddique's110 million? because if they gave him more money, he could then make the scrappage scheme wider and bring people in. they are playing politics with people's lives. >> you know what they're always doing that. they're always doing that. but just for people who think this is just a london thing as well, of course, the ulez zones meant to be ulez zones are meant to be spreading country, spreading across the country, so that why such an that is why it is such an important topic we talk important topic that we talk about. listen rosamond, it's brilliant talk you again. brilliant to talk to you again. >> coming >> i absolutely love coming on here you. as you here to speak to you. as you know, people want in know, if people want to get in touch you've got touch with you, you've got a foundation there. >> i have. >> i have. >> can they help? i would love people ellas law, people to support ellas law, which currently in which is currently in parliament, and we're going to put think the put a petition out. i think the politicians debate politicians need to debate this topic so people actually topic so people can actually hear people care about their health. they care about their family and all the politicians need to listen and help people out . there are people who are out. there are people who are strapped for cash. we're in a

cost of living. people do want to change. they do. they just can't afford it . mr sunak, can't afford it. mr sunak, please contribute to the mayor of london's scrappage scheme. thank you, nana for having me. >> thank you so much . and of >> thank you so much. and of course, that foundation. can you just tell us the foundation? >> yeah, it is the it is the roberta foundation. and any donation will be acceptable. and thank you. the public again for supporting me . and it must be so supporting me. and it must be so tncky supporting me. and it must be so tricky for people because they people write to me and say, i really believe in what you do, but i am really skint right now i >> -- >> that's it. em >> that's it. that's exactly it. that's always amazing to talk to you. that's been advocacy, deborah. she's also an ambassador for clean air. deborah. she's also an ambassador for clean air . well, ambassador for clean air. well, listen, stay tuned. this is gb news. if you're just tuned in, it's just coming up to 20 minutes after 5:00. coming up, the debate this the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. asking, do you hour. and i'm asking, do you still faith in police? still have faith in our police? but first, let's some weather. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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outbreaks of rain spreading across wales, southwest england and ireland and into northern ireland later on temperatures held on as well. temperatures held back that cloud and back underneath that cloud and starting increasingly starting to feel increasingly humid and sticky, but low 20s possible across the far east of scotland and england into monday, that rain will still be lingering places generally. lingering in places generally. it'll a grey, drizzly it'll be quite a grey, drizzly day the central belt of day from the central belt of scotland, southwards brisk scotland, southwards some brisk winds across english coastal channels as well. we've got to get used to it because there'll be further showers as we end the month as otherwise, enjoy month as well. otherwise, enjoy the by that the rest of your day by that warm feeling inside . warm feeling inside. >> aside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> right. so coming up, we'll be discussing migrant marquees. but up next, it's the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, do you still have faith

good afternoon. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, onune nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's now time, though, for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, do you still have in our police? now have faith in our police? now the promised to the police have promised to investigate crimes after investigate all crimes after admitting overlooking low admitting to overlooking low level offences. well, we all knew like theft, if knew that, like petty theft, if someone steals burgles your house, don't tend to show house, they don't tend to show up. but really , you'd expect the up. but really, you'd expect the police should already be investigating all this. and investigating all of this. and it's job, it? how investigating all of this. and it's the job, it? how investigating all of this. and it's the public it? how investigating all of this. and it's the public feelt? how investigating all of this. and it's the public feel safe how investigating all of this. and it's the public feel safe in)w investigating all of this. and it's the public feel safe in our can the public feel safe in our neighbourhoods if they don't really bother investigating routinely ? the surrey police

routinely? the surrey police chief commissioner , he said that chief commissioner, he said that we mustn't tolerate this idea that there some crimes we that there are some crimes we don't that there are some crimes we dont as that there are some crimes we don't as they have a don't investigate as they have a huge on our communities. huge impact on our communities. but too late for them to but is it too late for them to act have the police act now? so have the police higher left for too long? higher ups left it for too long? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, do you still have in our police? still have faith in our police? well i'm now writer well i'm joined now by writer and mbappe, and broadcaster paul mbappe, retired officer norman retired police officer norman brennan, chief of surrey brennan, former chief of surrey police kevin hurley, and also political commentator joe phillips. mbappe , i'm going phillips. paul mbappe, i'm going to start with you. talk to me about have lost about the police. have we lost faith them . well, well , i have. >> and i have to say that i think millions of people all across britain have lost faith in the police and the truth is this, that we live in a society thatis this, that we live in a society that is based on the rule of law. and for that to be effective, then people need to have confidence that the law is effectively enforced. and i think the view of millions of people across this country is that the law is no longer

effectively enforced . and in effectively enforced. and in reality, look, if the police were a commercial organisation , were a commercial organisation, they would be up before trading standards, i think because they simply do not, do they? by and large , they do not do the things large, they do not do the things detect and prevent crime in the way. and to the extent and with the efficiency that they ought to do. and i think in recent and by the way, i should say that i have enormous respect for individual police officers who put their lives on the line and by and large, are good people doing a tough in difficult doing a tough job in difficult circumstances, but is an institution . and i think the institution. and i think the police are failing and have done for many years. low level crime was effectively legalised in this country . unofficially, if this country. unofficially, if you a victim of burglary or you were a victim of burglary or street crime or something like that, the chances of the police ever detecting the people responsible for the position that yourself in was that you found yourself in was quite minimal. so think quite minimal. so i think there's an enormous dip in there's been an enormous dip in confidence in the police in recent years. >> norman brennan, you're a retired police officer of 31

years . that's correct. years. that's correct. >> one thing i'd add a caveat with what paul said. >> if the police was a commercial company , the entire commercial company, the entire board would be sacked and you'd get a board in that would actually regain the lost confidence of its staff and its customers . customers. >> but in relation to policing, the reason why the police have lost the streets and a long, long story and i know we haven't got much time, years ago, got much time, is 14 years ago, theresa crippled policing . theresa may crippled policing. she crippled policing to such a degree. we lost 22,000 officers and tens of thousands of backroom staff. so that meant that the few officers did more with less filled in the backroom stuff and that was why police have lost the streets. and over the 14 years, the police have not been able to catch up and the main thing that the public have lost confidence for and the reason is that we've lost the nine principle of sir robert peel walk the streets or reassure the public speak to the public, speak to shopkeepers , public, speak to shopkeepers, interact with the youngsters on

housing estates and on the streets , tackle those that streets, tackle those that commit crime , arrest people, sit commit crime, arrest people, sit down with the public, take statements , reassure them. and statements, reassure them. and even if we don't have an arrest and a conviction, they know we did the best. when you don't see the police, you don't feel reassured. >> now it's all gone, isn't it? well i mean, and also theresa may, she's she's behind may, well, she's she's behind a lot doesn't lot of things, doesn't she, including kevin kevin including net zero. kevin kevin hurley well , so including net zero. kevin kevin hurley well, so far i don't disagree with what paul and norman have said, broadly speaking, although it's much more complex than that, because if you were to judge it as a commercial company, you'd say to ends of the spectrum. >> one is they'd answer the phone when a customer calls them, which of course we all know if you try and dial the 101 number for the police, you may not ever get through. it's at one end of the spectrum, but the other one, the ultimate performance measure , is performance measure, which is preventing stopping crime, preventing or stopping crime, the final sanction is people go

to prison. well in fact, the prisons are full to bursting so much, so that they're having to build more prisons space for them. so in terms of what can them. so in terms of what can the police do there they are. they have been hamstrung by elements such as the entire criminal justice system is not properly resourced . right. so properly resourced. right. so the courts do not work properly. there are not enough prosecution lawyers. there are not enough defence lawyers. there are not enough prisons. the probation has been slashed under chris grayling and michael gove. previously there's no drug rehabilitation that we would speak of now . so broadly speak of now. so broadly speaking, they're on a bit of a hiding to nothing. so paul, speaking, they're on a bit of a hiding to nothing. so paul , the hiding to nothing. so paul, the correct answer after that list, sorry, i feel a little bit depressed after that. >> i was just going to get to joe phillips to get joe in. joe >> well, i don't think this is much of a great debate. >> nana, because i think we all agree with each other. >> god, the police are in crisis for all the reasons that paul,

kevin and norman have said i >> -- >> but it's interesting that, you talk about it you know, if you talk about it as a company and we all know how it fails us, the customers , um, it fails us, the customers, um, the problem is it's not one company. >> it's different police forces around the country. >> now we've seen what's happenedin >> now we've seen what's happened in manchester where there's been a real turnaround . there's been a real turnaround. and by going back to basics and deaung and by going back to basics and dealing with this what's called low level crime. but, you know , low level crime. but, you know, that person you had on that you quoted just earlier, the sorry, chief constable saying we shouldn't tolerate it. no, you shouldn't tolerate it. no, you shouldn't , but you shouldn't shouldn't, but you shouldn't have been tolerating it for years and despite what kevin says , he's absolutely right. you says, he's absolutely right. you know, there's been it's not just policing. it's the whole court system. it's cuts to probation and so on and so forth. >> but if you deal with that low level crime early on, you might nip it in the bud before it even gets to court . gets to court. >> well, that would be great, wouldn't it? but actually, if you can get to court because it seems everything's so delayed. paul embery, very

paul embery, thank you very much. brennan , also kevin much. norman brennan, also kevin hurley also joe phillips, hurley and also joe phillips, thank your thank you so much for your thoughts. well, this is gb thoughts. wow well, this is gb news. what you think? do you news. what do you think? do you think have you lost faith the think have you lost faith in the police? you're i'm nana think have you lost faith in the policewe'rere i'm nana think have you lost faith in the policewe're live i'm nana think have you lost faith in the policewe're live on i'm nana think have you lost faith in the policewe're live on tv, i'm nana think have you lost faith in the policewe're live on tv, online|na akua. we're live on tv, online and digital radio. coming up, and on digital radio. coming up, we'll our great we'll continue with our great british debate this hour. i'm asking, do you still have faith in ulez thoughts asking, do you still have faith in my ulez thoughts asking, do you still have faith in my panel, ulez thoughts asking, do you still have faith in my panel, broadcasteroughts asking, do you still have faith in my panel, broadcaster and ts of my panel, broadcaster and columnist cundy, also columnist lizzie cundy, also former labour adviser matthew columnist lizzie cundy, also forme|butyour adviser matthew columnist lizzie cundy, also forme|but first, dviser matthew columnist lizzie cundy, also forme|but first, let'sr matthew columnist lizzie cundy, also forme|but first, let's get itthew columnist lizzie cundy, also forme|but first, let's get yourv lazor. but first, let's get your latest headlines . nana. latest news headlines. nana. >> thank you. let's start with some breaking news this hour. we believe a man in his 30s who is riding a scooter has died following a collision with an ambulance in south yorkshire. police are saying the incident happenedin police are saying the incident happened in hoyland swaine last night . the ambulance was night. the ambulance was responding to an emergency call. officers are now appealing for witnesses. so that news just in to us that that a man has died and a man in his 30s. that is

after riding a scooter and getting into a collision with an ambulance that was responding to an emergency call. officers are now appealing for witnesses on that one. an and in another headune that one. an and in another headline this hour, two motorbikes have been recovered by police investigating a fatal hit and run incident in walsall in the west midlands. sadly seven year old caitlin seleznev was taken to hospital in a critical condition following the collision on thursday night. she's since died of her injuries. a 14 year old boy was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. he's been released on bail but with strict conditions . and in other strict conditions. and in other news today, rail services have been disrupted with thousands of workers walking off the job in a long running dispute over pay and conditions. 14 train operating companies taking part. people are being advised to check before travelling . in some check before travelling. in some areas, only half services are running. in others, there are none. at all. and a former

paratroop has completed a 19,000 mile charity walk around the coastline of the uk . chris lewis coastline of the uk. chris lewis was joined by hundreds of supporters as he crossed the finish line at clan guinness in wales. the father of two, has so far raised £500,000 for ssafa and mr lewis set off from the same spot six years ago with only a few supplies and £10 in his pocket back to a big welcome and a clap right there . more and a clap right there. more detail on all that head to our website gbnews.com . website gbnews.com. >> thank you, polly. good afternoon. this is gb news. i'm nana o'quinn. i don't forget our appeal to all black cabbies and riders in london today. the london city police need your assistance in reuniting a father with of his son's ashes. with an urn of his son's ashes. get in touch if you have them in your black cab. that would be amazing if we could find them.

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good afternoon. it's fast approaching . 38 minutes after approaching. 38 minutes after 5:00. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. you're listening and watching. gb news. it's time now for our great british debate. this hour. i'm asking, do you still have faith in our police? now police forces have promised to investigate all

crimes would have crimes is good. i would have thought that's what they're meant to doing. pretty basic. thought that's what they're m is nt to doing. pretty basic. thought that's what they're mis quite doing. pretty basic. thought that's what they're mis quite basic,1g. pretty basic. thought that's what they're mis quite basic, evenetty basic. thought that's what they're mis quite basic, even low basic. it is quite basic, even low level burglary. well, level stuff like burglary. well, that's expect . but that's what i would expect. but shouldn't already i shouldn't police already as i said, that. yes said, we're doing that. yes it is their job after all. but are they it's not they under—resourced? it's not their . do feel in their fault. do you feel safe in your neighbourhood ? and if your neighbourhood? and if they're not routinely investigating crimes, then what are they doing? so for the great british debate sir, i'm asking, do have faith do you still have faith in our police? let's see my police? well, let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by and also lizzie by matthew lazer and also lizzie cundy. right, matthew ? yes. cundy. right, matthew? yes. >> no , i mean, i think there are >> no, i mean, i think there are police are in crisis, so i don't have a huge lot of faith at the moment . and i think that they've moment. and i think that they've lost sight of some of the bafics lost sight of some of the basics. and i think what we've seen in the mayor after being given multiple opportunities to change and not having done so , i change and not having done so, i think for me the low point was the sarah everard demonstration. you know , the sort of wasn't you know, the sort of wasn't really a demonstration. it was just a vigil, wasn't it was just a vigil, wasn't it? it was a when people came a vigil when people came together. then this in together. and then this was in the when they they were

the era when they were they were locked and they were locked down and they were in lockdown mean, lockdown and people were i mean, it week a friend it was the same week a friend was a friend of his who was mourning a friend of his who died, 5 of them in a flat. died, 4 or 5 of them in a flat. and the police burst in in full riot gear middle of lockdown. >> they would have known that somebody had but also somebody had died. but and also but it's not just the metropolitan police, although they are getting a bad rap at the moment. >> greater manchester. >> i'm from greater manchester. don't accent. >> i'm from greater manchester. dorwhat accent. >> i'm from greater manchester. dorwhat aboutcent. >> i'm from greater manchester. dorwhat about a nt. >> i'm from greater manchester. dorwhat about a scout ? >> what about a scout? >> what about a scout? >> oh, it's all up north for you. >> what about what about greater manchester is really interesting example because it's been a police force in absolute crisis. >> it's had various failures and various perhaps. yes perhaps overits various perhaps. yes perhaps over its knuckles and the and various chief constables have got themselves in difficulties. and now the new chief constable has gone back basics has has gone back to basics and has said is going to said that he is going to investigate crime that investigate every crime that he does want to policing to be does want to get policing to be what to about. so what it's meant to be about. so that be working. so that seems to be working. so maybe that's a lesson for the rest would rest of the country. i would like have all their like them to have all their police officers back, you know, so their headquarters and things like felt there so their headquarters and things like somewhere felt there so their headquarters and things like somewhere could ere so their headquarters and things like somewhere could go was somewhere you could go because like, well,

because now it's like, well, where are they? in london? there are police are now almost no police stations. of 12. >> but all over the country as well. mean, they're losing. well. i mean, they're losing. they've got rid of them. >> and live >> lizzie yeah. and i live in a small village in a rural little village. beautiful, but village. it's beautiful, but they've on the they've lost the bobby on the beat it's sadly the police beat and it's sadly the police aren't paid enough there. aren't being paid enough there. i mean, it's £30,000. i think officers they've lost and for whatever rishi says, the police aren't being looked after and it's a fine job. don't forget, they put their selves in harm's way and we've lost the bobby we need we need to be with the communities and police . i really communities and police. i really do feel for them. but i myself had a tough time with a domestic abuse incident. had a tough time with a domestic abuse incident . and because i abuse incident. and because i was on the border of surrey and hampshire, they kept flicking me to the different police just and in the end, i just gave up because i thought this was going they were flipping me back to they were flipping me back to the other one. and i'm sorry. the police have, though , i have the police have, though, i have to say, been dealing with a lot of things they shouldn't be

deaung of things they shouldn't be dealing the mental dealing with, like the mental health media health issues, social media tweets. and we've got on the front of the times today, as you said, every crime. said, we'll act on every crime. yes, should . but some of yes, they should. but some of the crimes, you know, being on social about, you know, social media about, you know, someone not liking what someone's tweeted know, someone's tweeted or, you know, mental health issues, that's not the police's job. yeah, well, and some would argue it is because a lot of the people who are in prison are those are are in prison are those who are afflicted with mental health conditions, crimes. >> but you can't excuse someone you know you've murdered someone. oh, well, because you've got mental health condition. put you in condition. we won't put you in prison. to get prison. you need to get over. i think it's more being work. think it's more than being work. >> it's more they've >> i think it's more they've been called mental health been called out to mental health situations where there's no crime involved. it's just a crisis. crime involved. it's just a crissomeone a breakdown >> someone having a breakdown and that that's not the police's job. but this is it. >> do that then? >> now, who would do that then? >> now, who would do that then? >> historically, >> well, historically, the nhs and services. and social services. >> but also the >> social services. but also the police are saying, look , we police now are saying, look, we will will work on every will do we will work on every crime, tangible like if crime, but tangible like if there's evidence, if you've got if they have evidence that there has crime, fingerprints has been a crime, fingerprints or video footage, or they've got video footage, they then .

they will then. >> but a lot of people are leaving . a lot of people are leaving. a lot of people are leaving. a lot of people are leaving the police because a lot of one of the of people one of the main reasons they expect reasons was they didn't expect that job was about that was what the job was about because there's because obviously there's loads of then there's of paperwork and then there's and but they haven't managed to have numbers have caught up with the numbers of they needed. of officers that they needed. but have but but the population they have but the is absolutely you the population is absolutely you know, still, although know, there are still, although the like boast that the tories like to boast that they've extra officers on they've got extra officers on they've got extra officers on the the numbers right the beat, the numbers went right down in cameron and may years. >> they've gone up, but of course they haven't caught up per population because per head of population because the population expands. you're absolutely the population expands. you're absoluteit's not just sometimes thing is it's not just sometimes the about the people say it's all about woke policing. well, saw woke policing. well, i saw some something twitter last week. something on twitter last week. a couple in birmingham had a gay couple in birmingham had the f word spray painted on the outside of their house. three days later, they still hadn't had the west midlands police come round, so maybe it sort of woke in terms of paperwork but not delivering for all not actually delivering for all parts of the community. >> putting rainbow >> stop putting the rainbow flag. police cars flag. so on the on police cars and go and go and and actually go and go and go and actually go and go and go and who's had and see somebody who's had a homophobic go back to homophobic attack. go back to bafics homophobic attack. go back to basics. police, basics. let police, police,

because need them in because when you need them in something relatively something that's relatively serious, you can get ten all at once or something that's really minor can ten all at once. >> so there there i don't know where they are there somewhere, but they i don't know. >> stop oil protesters >> but they stop oil protesters , mean alone. so far , 600, 500 , i mean alone. so far, 600, 500 officers, officers. i think 1—1 staff from nana and the just stop oil would mean 500 officer shifts, stop used for them, which for those clowns is disgusting . disgusting. >> well, i think should pay disgusting. >:back.., i think should pay it back. >> it's 7 million years. >> it's got 7 million years. >> it's got 7 million years. >> they should pay it back. they should pay it if they should pay it back. if they realise have to it realise they'd have to pay it back. owners are back. mind you, their owners are billionaires, they? billionaires, aren't they? usually oil magnates just stop oil. all. but oil. the irony of it all. but this shows nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our voices, our great british voices, their opportunity the show. opportunity to be on the show. tell think about opportunity to be on the show. telltopics think about opportunity to be on the show. telltopics we're think about opportunity to be on the show. telltopics we're discussing. ut the topics we're discussing. i've got four of yeah, alan mcneilly, start you mcneilly, we'll start with you in grimsby. you lost in grimsby. alan, have you lost faith in the police? police >> good afternoon, alan. unfortunately, like many, i have nana you can map the decline of the police force or what i should say the police service.

>> when it changed from being a police force to a police service. then became a corporate organisation riddled with all the things that corporates do. >> so you don't have people going out and forcing the law. the police deal with their customers and their clients and it's very much a and you know, it's very much a and you know, it's like a business. >> well, it's not a business enforcing the laws about enforcing the laws about enforcing the laws about enforcing the law. >> so unfortunately agreed with your panel who were on earlier that everything they said about the criminal justice system shows how bad it is. >> well, the college policing and the senior management, they're absolutely atrocious. >> i feel bad for the police because those who work hard, work hard, and it can't be something that you want to join. but think started went even but i think it started went even worse when they all started taking bohm in taking the knee. david bohm in watford ella whelan nana um, i'm in a quandary on this one. >> personally, i've only had fantastic service when required from the police. >> i had really nasty incident.

they watford police were brilliant. borehamwood ends up going to interpol, so first class service. >> but i think the problem comes like in all public services these days is managed senior management are trying to please all things to all man and they can't and they don't seem to have an understanding of what theirjob is supposed to be. >> most of the time it's supposed to be enforce the law, not interfere . splitting the law not interfere. splitting the law under their own discretion. >> and no rainbow flags, no rainbow cars. i mean, they've got rainbow police cars, for god's sake . i mean, why who god's sake. i mean, why who spent time putting a rainbow on there? we don't care . don't care there? we don't care. don't care what your sexual orientation is. just come to the crime . just come to the crime. elizabeth. elizabeth heron. she's a new one. she's in cheshire. elizabeth welcome. what's your thoughts? hi >> yeah, it seems like the police is increasingly becoming more oligarchy in which more like an oligarchy in which the people's interest is placed second. >> and the police own selfish interest is placed first. >> this was evident in the rotherham sex scandal in which

the police knowingly allowed for sexual of children to take sexual abuse of children to take place out of fear of stirring racial tension and no good functioning society would allow such a thing to take place. >> it seems like the police are more interested in the face of self interest rather than the virtue of delivering on the on the needs of the british people i >> although some of them are good you know you quote good and you know that you quote a case that was really not good. and you said is true. but and what you said is true. but a lot of police , most of them lot of the police, most of them want to do a good job. and lastly, want to do a good job. and lastmiranda richardson . miranda the miranda richardson. miranda richardson northamptonshire, richardson in northamptonshire, miranda afternoon, nana i'm i'm quite fortunate that obviously i rely on on my partnership with the police force, you know, running pubs. you know, i have to call on them on occasion and i don't hesitate to call on them. >> and i've had good support from them. i think the other thing we have to remember that the police force are up against now, i know we touched on social media, but actually it's the

pubuc media, but actually it's the public putting them on social media, you know, videoing their own stop and searches video saying, i don't have to give you my name and i don't have to. >> yeah, that doesn't help, you know, people. >> then antagonise and it doesn't . doesn't help. >> they are there to do a job. >> they are there to do a job. >> stopping you >> they could be stopping you for manner of reasons, for all manner of reasons, possibly because woman possibly because the woman who didn't yeah, there the >> bad news. yeah, there was the woman who didn't stop when she got the bus and they got off the bus and they handcuffed might handcuffed her. i mean, it might have but she have been overkill, but she should shouldn't should have stopped. shouldn't she? yeah, she? she should have. yeah, she should you know, she? she should have. yeah, she sh thei you know, she? she should have. yeah, she sh the end you know, she? she should have. yeah, she sh the end of you know, she? she should have. yeah, she sh the end of the you know, she? she should have. yeah, she sh the end of the day, you know, she? she should have. yeah, she sh the end of the day, they now, she? she should have. yeah, she sh the end of the day, they are ', at the end of the day, they are thatis at the end of the day, they are that is their job. >> that is what they are there to do. >> eu- t not done anything >> if you've not done anything wrong, tell them, you know, wrong, just tell them, you know, you hope. you would hope. >> you've the >> but then you've seen the other miranda, other side. you've miranda, you've side. when you've seen the other side. when somebody a somebody gets frisked in a horrible they haven't horrible way and they haven't done anything. but yeah, i know. thank miranda. thank you so much, miranda. always to you. always good to talk to you. she's northamptonshire. always good to talk to you. she's in northamptonshire. always good to talk to you. she's in watford,rthamptonshire. always good to talk to you. she's in watford, elizabeth shire. david in watford, elizabeth in cheshire, and alan in grimsby. those voices right . well, those are my voices right. well, listen, to another listen, moving on to another story caught my eye today. story that caught my eye today. we were discussing yesterday. we were discussing it yesterday. up we were discussing it yesterday. up seekers could up to 2000 asylum seekers could be tents on disused be housed in tents on disused

military under suella. military sites under suella. redmond's plans to avoid hotel use ahead of an expected surge of boat crossings . apparently of boat crossings. apparently they like to come over in august . so let's see what my panel make of that . matthew lanza and make of that. matthew lanza and also lizzie cundy. lizzie >> well, i think the marquees are better the barges. as are better than the barges. as i said last week, all these barges, i mean, you're only going to hold five, 500. that's not even a boatload of influx coming in. and it's going to be, you know, like kevin costner, waterworld, you know, film with all these barges. it's not going to work. and it really isn't. and look , they're lucky. they're and look, they're lucky. they're getting fed and watered and shelter more than some of our homeless here are getting. and uh, it's a cheaper way forward. the hotels are full, costing us nearly 7 million. it's they've got to do something, but it's pi'ocess. >> process. >> you've got about 30s . >> you've got about 30s. >> you've got about 30s. >> i think we need a proper answer . we >> i think we need a proper answer. we need to put up fewer people, hotels or barges or tents. we need to people tents. we need to get people processed and sent home if they shouldn't be here. and that's processed and sent home if they shouwe 't be here. and that's processed and sent home if they shouwe need here. and that's processed and sent home if they shouwe need hereneedi that's

processed and sent home if they shouwe need hereneed ahat's processed and sent home if they shouwe need hereneed a proper why we need we need a proper plan and a change leadership plan and a change of leadership in home office. in the home office. >> come over >> so once they come over illegally, like illegally, send them back. like australia. yeah absolutely. >> problem >> we need. the problem is at the about 2 or 3% the moment only about 2 or 3% are processed and cannot have are processed and we cannot have tens thousands of people tens of thousands of people waiting. need decisions waiting. we need decisions made. people allowed in and those who seekers allowed in and those who aren't are sent back. >> what about my idea? cruise ships? cruise ships in the channel >> it's a bit posh, isn't it? >> it's a bit posh, isn't it? >> it's a bit posh, isn't it? >> i know they can. donald mcdonald. jane mcdonald . mcdonald. jane mcdonald. >> she's a big supporter. >> she's a big supporter. >> she's a big supporter. >> she was a big labour supporter. >> great. listen, well, they want to jump off. no, they won't want to jump off. no, they won't want jump off. no, i can't want to jump off. no, i can't sing. listen. no, my idea cruise ships, they don't come on to shore , onto onto land. here they shore, onto onto land. here they come , there you process them, come, there you process them, you can five. you can have you can get five. you can have them all the channel if them all around the channel if you and then you like. and then. and then they into interlinking ship, they get into interlinking ship, which either them which will either bring them to the off to a processing court. >> well, i think the key thing is, is processing needs to is, is the processing needs to be i'm not saying be quick, but i'm not saying there's much wrong with if there's much wrong with that. if as as the processing is as long as the processing is done not months, as long as the processing is don there's not months,

as long as the processing is don there's 160,000)t months, as long as the processing is don there's 160,000 stillynths, but there's 160,000 still waiting, the germans do it quickly . quickly. >> well, we'll get some of >> well, okay, we'll get some of them it's time now them here. right. it's time now for quiz. it's for our quick fire quiz. it's the part of the show where i test my panel on some of the other stories. first time headlines, now, headlines, headlines. right now, i'm and i'm joined by broadcaster and columnist i'm joined by broadcaster and colurbuzzer, please, also your buzzer, please, and also former labour matthew. former labour adviser matthew. lizzie, please . lizzie, your buzzer, please. wonderful. play along wonderful. and please play along at home. you've got to guess what the answer is, right? question one, a delayed british airways bahamas airways flight in the bahamas suffered this week suffered a menu change this week following issues with their planned flight food, which fast food passengers did. they use was it, a, burger king, b, mcdonald's or c, kfc? lizzie cundyi mcdonald's or c, kfc? lizzie cundy i think it's c, kfc. >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> i think it's c, too, but i was just slow off the buzzer. >> it is. it's kfc. yay, yay, yay. i used to love that. i love it. until one day i had a bad one and then i've not gone back. question they'll you question to they'll send you boxes now. true or false? no, i would actually go for it again. true this week the un true or false? this week the un have is set have declared that july is set to warmest month on to be the warmest month on record. false ? oh, record. true or false? oh, lizzie cundy true . it is in fact

lizzie cundy true. it is in fact true . question three come on, true. question three come on, you're good. >> it's my first time. >> it's my first time. >> press the buzzer, for god's sake. but don't do it whilst i'm doing the question. question three legendary irish singer sinead o'connor away on sinead o'connor passed away on wednesday , famous for her 1990 wednesday, famous for her 1990 single, two u. single, nothing compares two u. but which famous artist wrote this song? was it prince this song? was it a prince b elton john? or c, paul mccartney? lizzie cundy a prince? that's right. it was indeed prince, wasn't it? what a fabulous, fabulous, fantastic. and what a it was indeed. prince. i used to love prince, but with all his he but with all his money, he couldn't buy height, mind. couldn't buy height, never mind. yes she rishi sunak feels his pain . absolute same for sunak. pain. absolute same for sunak. question four a pair of unique apple branded sneakers featuring the vintage rainbow apple logo have been put up for auction by sotheby's. but how much are they for? the closest answer wins . for? the closest answer wins. lizzie cundy £500 and matthew's pepsi buzzer was 50,000. £50,000. >> that's a big difference . >> that's a big difference. £50,000 is the actual answer .

£50,000 is the actual answer. >> wow. >> wow. >> i was just i was just a little bit short. >> £50,000. yeah, that's right . >> £50,000. yeah, that's right. well, question five, your final question. you got one right? at least. at least you got it. exactly right. you can't win, though, know though, matthew. you know that. no, everyone's winner. no, i know everyone's a winner. >> well, not really. >> well, not really. >> not on gb news. >> not on gb news. >> question five elon musk final got rebranding got around to rebranding twitter this what letter the this week. what letter of the alphabet ? no, no, no, no , no. >> at least we both did it. no. >> at least we both did it . we >> at least we both did it. we were both better . were both better. >> i'll give you which. which letter the alphabet was. i'll letter the alphabet was. i'll let you go. matthew. singers x is letter x x. you can't win anyway, lizzy. >> so i know you can't win . >> so i know you can't win. >> so i know you can't win. >> it sounded like i was being generous, but i wasn't. >> yeah . yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> i'm sure those at home got it wrong as well. really brilliant. lovely lovely. i don't like the x . well, i don't mind the x. i x. well, i don't mind the x. i like the. >> i don't like the x. >> i don't like the x. >> i don't x. >> i don't like the x. >> i don't like the x. >> i don't think it's very twitter a clever name because twitter is a clever name because it's tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet. >> what you going to do? i'm >> what are you going to do? i'm axing somebody. >> my x, axing >> i'm axing my x, but axing your x. >> i don't like

>> but i don't like the threads. i'm getting the threads i'm not getting into the threads >> know what that's >> i don't know what that's about >> i don't know what that's abooh, i haven't done threads >> well, on today's show i've been asking is ulez labour's achilles heel? according our achilles heel? according to our twitter poll, 88% of you say yes. you say no. yes. just 12% of you say no. i've got to say a huge thank you to panel. thank you to my fabulous panel. thank you very much, lizzie cundy. thank you, cundy. also you, lizzie cundy. and also matthew, shots matthew, they get single shots here. thank you, here. lizzie cundy, thank you, darling. no, that's matthew darling. oh, no, that's matthew lazor lazor, thank lazor and matthew lazor, thank you thank you. really you so much. thank you. really good have you accompany. good to have you accompany. >> being >> i'm sorry for my being naughty at times. >> i'm sorry for my being nalthat'st times. >> i'm sorry for my being nalthat's okay. s. >> that's okay. >> that's okay. >> learn. i'll learn better >> i'll learn. i'll learn better at that. >> em- p- p— >> chris well, we like that. >> chris well, we like that. >> listen, and thank to >> but listen, and thank you to you at for your company. you at home for your company. now, tomorrow i be now, listen, tomorrow i won't be here. taking here. dawn neesom will be taking you have , of you through. she'll have, of course, panellists course, regular panellists christine and christine hamilton and also danny kelly. so make sure you join there . i'll be back join her there. i'll be back same time, same place next week. don't about cabbie don't forget about our cabbie appeal. if you do, if you're in your black that bag your black cab and that bag happens at the back, happens to be at the back, get in here at gb in touch with us here at gb news. right now, from it news. but right now, from me, it is fabulous day. is goodbye. have a fabulous day. thank your company. thank you for your company. enjoy the fabulous weather here. the is rising.

the temperature is rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. the next few days are going to retain the rather unsettled feel that we have had over much of july so far. low pressure is still with us through this weekend centre towards the north—west of the uk. those isobars uk. for now, those isobars squeezing together , allowing for squeezing together, allowing for some blustery some quite blustery winds throughout today and into tomorrow particularly tomorrow as well, particularly along northern along western and northern coastal areas. showers will be continuing throughout the night for northern ireland and western scotland, for northern ireland and western scwesti, for northern ireland and western scwest england well . but for of west england as well. but for the england and wales the rest of england and wales generally spells generally, some clearer spells developing most of us, developing for most of us, though, it won't too chilly though, it won't be too chilly overnight. temperatures holding up around but might up around 1214 c. but we might drop single figures in some drop into single figures in some rural areas of north east scotland. from the word scotland. showers from the word go as we kick off sunday for central southern scotland and nonh central southern scotland and north west england as well. some of those could be heavy at times, maybe with rumble

times, maybe with the odd rumble of some surface of thunder causing some surface spray the cloud spray issues. then the cloud will be building from the southwest later on with outbreaks rain spreading outbreaks of rain spreading across southwest england across wales, southwest england and into northern ireland later on as temperatures held on as well. temperatures held back and back underneath that cloud and starting feel increasingly starting to feel increasingly humid and sticky, but low 20s possible across the far east of scotland england into scotland and england into monday, that rain will still be lingering places generally. lingering in places generally. it'll a grey, drizzly it'll be quite a grey, drizzly day from the central belt of scotland, brisk scotland, southwards some brisk winds across english coastal channels as well. we've got to get used to it because there'll be further showers as we end the month as well. otherwise, enjoy be further showers as we end the morrest|s well. otherwise, enjoy be further showers as we end the morrest of vell. otherwise, enjoy be further showers as we end the morrest of yourotherwise, enjoy be further showers as we end the morrest of your day�*rwise, enjoy be further showers as we end the morrest of your day by se, enjoy be further showers as we end the morrest of your day by the enjoy the rest of your day by the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .

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going to be asking what woke actually means. i'm not sure that we have an agreement about what the definition of that word is and what has happened to society. that means a bank has felt the need to kick out a customer based on their politics. plus, one very special red telephone box. all of that and more coming up right after the news with polly . the latest news with polly. >> beth, thank you and good evening to you. our top story on gb news tonight is that two motorbikes have been recovered by police who are investigating a fatal hit and run incident in walsall in the west midlands. sadly, seven year old caitlin seleznev was taken to hospital in a critical condition following the collision on thursday night, but she has since died of her injuries. a 14 year old boy was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . he's now been dangerous driving. he's now been released on bail but there are strict conditions as enquiries continue . in other news today ,

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