means. i'm not sure actually means. i'm not sure that we have an agreement about what the definition of that word is and what has happened to society. that means a bank has felt the need to kick out a customer based on their politics. plus, one very special red telephone box. all of that and more coming up right after the news with polly . the latest news with polly. >> beth, thank you and good evening to you. our top story on gb news tonight is that two motorbikes have been recovered by police who are investigating a fatal hit and run incident in walsall in the west midlands. sadly, seven year old caitlin seleznev was taken to hospital in a critical condition following the collision on thursday night, but she has since died of her injuries. a 14 year old boy was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . he's now been dangerous driving. he's now been released on bail but there are strict conditions as enquiries continue . in other news today ,

continue. in other news today, rail services have been disrupted again today, with thousands of workers walking off the job in a long running dispute over pay. rmt members at 14 train operating companies have been on strike and passengers are being advised to track track check before they travel. in some areas, only half of services are running. others have none at all. in the united states , republican presidential states, republican presidential candidates have shared the stage for the first time as they fought for the support of those present at a rally in iowa. take a listen. one could end up going to prison on interesting lyrics as to that song . as president as to that song. as president donald trump, former president donald trump, former president donald trump, former president donald trump stepped on to the stage there despite facing new criminal charges. donald trump was the one to hit out, though, at rival ron desantis on stage , at rival ron desantis on stage, telling the crowd not to take a chance on the florida governor, will hurd , the only candidate to will hurd, the only candidate to criticise mr trump publicly. but

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britain's news. channel >> good evening . this is bev, >> good evening. this is bev, sitting in for neal tonight. now it has been a busy two weeks here at gb news because we haven't just been reporting the headunes. haven't just been reporting the headlines . we've been making headlines. we've been making them our very own them thanks to our very own nigel losing his nigel farage losing his bank account his quote account because his views, quote , do not align with the values of coots. of course, like all modern day authority , coots do modern day authority, coots do not feel the need to explain what their values are. they are simply good and right. whilst farage is bad and wrong . so farage is bad and wrong. so i wonder if, like me, you're interested in how we've got to this place in the uk where huge corporations operate along such simplistic binary lines and are allowed to punish those who might disagree .7 the subsequent might disagree? the subsequent resignation of senior banking executives is in my opinion, welcome and extremely rare at a time when most public figures act with absolute impunity when it comes to behaviour here. and all credit to fearless farage, who's now given courage to thousands of individuals who've suffered the same humiliating

fate and is now spearheading a push for legal changes. and because nigel's experience pre—empts a future in which access to financial services could be indiscriminately snatched away, he's also forcing national news outlets to finally talk about impending central banking, digital currencies tied to social credit systems . until to social credit systems. until now, the only place you'd hear that spoken about was right here, right now. thanks to neil oliver. but at its heart, this is a story about power. who has it and who doesn't. and critics . what has changed in our culture to empower a bank to defenestrate a customer based on an entire subjective conclusion about their character traits, which the bank felt at liberty to analyse around a boardroom. if the reputational risk committee and document meant in a 40 page dossier which concluded that nigel farage was racist, homophobic and a man of poor judgement because he was friends with famous covid jab

rejector tennis champion novak djokovic. what makes this even more chilling is that nigel knew nothing about this process and was never given a right to defend himself . but also what defend himself. but also what cloak of invincibility did dame alison rose think she was wearing when she gossiped about nigel's finances at a dinner with bbc journalist simon jacques , brazenly breaking data jacques, brazenly breaking data protection law . in a nutshell, protection law. in a nutshell, this is a story of the woke versus the awake and which side emerges victorious will have consequences for us all. but i don't know about you, but i've been a bit frustrated this week by commentators describe ing nigel as a victim of woke cancel culture because there is very little agreement on what woke actually means. it's a slippery four letters which evades an easy definition. and i firmly believe that's why the forces of woke have been able to get their claws. so firmly into our institutions actions and practically dominate every

aspect of our lives from banking to pronouns, from air disputes in regional offices to who qualifies for olympic finals. the ripples of anonymous social justice warriors reverberate everywhere from policing to publishing. but we need to agree on a definition of woke because it's impossible to take on an enemy when they're shapeshifts and their intent dodges the crosshairs. even on people who proudly categorise us all humans through a hierarchy of identity politics and champion diversity, gender neutrality and lgbt rights would never actually describe themselves as as woke and no doubt behind many of these initiatives is good intention to encourage equality of opportunity and to minimise discrimination based on immutable characteristics . but immutable characteristics. but speak out against some of these cultural dictators and you will find yourself outcast and silenced the very people who claim to be driven by inclusivity have found a hundred

ways to leave. people who don't ascribe to a very narrow set of clunky beliefs out in the cold. so what's the history of the word woke? well, it was first used in a 1938 protest song, scottsboro boys, about seven young black men wrongly imprisoned for the rape of two white women in arkansas and warned african americans to keep one eye open to threat. singer erykah badu kept the phrase alive in her music until 2014, when black lives matter started. the social media trend hashtag stay woke after the killing of michael brown . again, it was a michael brown. again, it was a call to the threat of police brutality , but rapidly brutality, but rapidly encompassed all forms of social injustice . by 2016, it was quite injustice. by 2016, it was quite cool to be woke with celebrities briefly admitting to the label . briefly admitting to the label. the oxford english dictionary included it with the definition well informed and up to date and alert to racial or social discrimination and justice. but then twitter ceo jack dorsey

wore the slogan on at then twitter ceo jack dorsey wore the slogan on a t shirt and the backlash came quickly . the backlash came quickly. defided the backlash came quickly. derided in memes and commercialised within 12 months, woke had a new definition in the urban dictionary . the act of urban dictionary. the act of being very pretentious about how much you care about a social issue . today no business brags issue. today no business brags about being woke despite the minefields about what a woman is. no political party stands on a self—confessed woke manifesto. so why do businesses like coots feel authorised to punish someone who is unashamed oddly anti—woke ? well, it all started anti—woke? well, it all started with tony blair and bill clinton as they tried to blend centre right economic policies with centre left social policies. now penalising corporate entities was unpopular, but these leaders still longed for control and so they implemented a greater regulation into businesses which still lingers today. but it was all a little obvious. so more insidiously came the soft

pressure , the irresistible pressure, the irresistible grants in incentives, the powerful code of conduct enshrined in every company's esg policy , environmental and social policy, environmental and social governance , in other words, governance, in other words, demonstrate how good and kind your business is not just how profitable you must be hitting green targets, diversity quotas, charitable objectives . and this charitable objectives. and this has literally become a competition between businesses seeking out investors who look over their shoulder to check that they appear to be the most ethical . but that they appear to be the most ethical. but it's all superficial. time wasting nonsense . greenwashing pink nonsense. greenwashing pink washing, brown washing , washing, brown washing, tokenistic, doing the right thing whilst making wealthy professionals feel better about themselves and impress other cultural elites at davos. drinks and parties on yachts. there are still only six women ceos of ftse, ftse 100 companies. so don't try and tell me that all these efforts to generate gender equality have been a success. but gaming this system is profit

able. head—hunters scour cvs for virtue signalling above work ethic ticking woke boxes is a lazy way to add value to a business. it's much easier to host a pride themed coffee morning , then ask your team to morning, then ask your team to put in a 12 hour shift to hit a deadune put in a 12 hour shift to hit a deadline on social activism. conceals a lot of weak leadership ship, so we need a counter—revolution in a fight back against the politicised ization of commercial life and a return to a time when the customer was always right and the business needed to do nothing more than offer a good product or service at the right price . my 86 year old dad price. my 86 year old dad recently asked me what woke means so i told him to read this. he's a very wise man. a few words, but after reading it, he shook his head and he said they'll look back and they'll say, what was wrong with everybody? then i hope he's right . so

right. so to help me work out what woke is and what to do about it, i'm joined tonight by molly and ben kingsley from children's lobby group. as for them and professor eric haynes, author the most human rights author of the most human rights why speech everything. why free speech is everything. thank you guys for joining why free speech is everything. thank you guys forjoining me thank you guys for joining me tonight. me come to tonight. molly, let me come to you. also been a victim you. you've also been a victim of this cancel culture with of this this cancel culture with us for your group, you us for them. your group, you also deprived bank also were deprived of bank account. did or account. so what did you or paypal your case? paypal wasn't it in your case? what did you make of my assessment of woke and where we are it? are with it? >> so i mean, i think you're entirely right. i think perhaps we're conflating issues here because when we think of woke, i think some of us would think of actually the underlying values which woke would try and progress. so, you know, things which in themselves may be very admirable and you know may be beneficial and in some cases undoubtedly are. so, you know, gender equality , racial gender equality, racial equality, sustainable city, if done sensibly, i think are aspirations many of us would agree with. but i think woke has

been taken to mean something rather different to that. i mean, you you mentioned this idea of, you know, maintain your allegiance to these values and very pretentious way. i would say it's more than pretentious, actually. it's a compelled way. it's this idea of forced righteousness. and along side that the refusal to countenance any dissent from these values, which i think has become so sinister. so in our case, we were, you know, debunked from paypal for well actually we don't really know what our particular thought crime was. we just know we were guilty of thought crimes. all we got told was we can't use their facilities anymore because of the nature of our of our activities . and we still haven't activities. and we still haven't heard any explanation , which is extraordinary. >> ben, if i can come to you. so just tell people what for us them do if they don't know, i'm sure a lot of our viewers will be familiar. but for those who don't know what evil organisation is it that might be banned paypal?

organisation is it that might be baryeah, paypal? organisation is it that might be baryeah, well, paypal? organisation is it that might be baryeah, well, you'llaypal? organisation is it that might be baryeah, well, you'll see l? organisation is it that might be baryeah, well, you'll see how >> yeah, well, you'll see how desperately evil we are. we're a grassroots organisation. asian parents grandparents parents and grandparents predominantly, and we've campaigned for the last few years on issues affecting children's welfare and well—being. and so during the pandemic we were particularly active on the topic of school closures. the masking of children in schools and such things. but you never had actual clarification from paypal that that was why that service was removed from you ? correct? we removed from you? correct? we had less than one line of an explanation as to why the services were shut down. and of course, we've been in the way that nigel has done. we've been trying to wheedle out from paypal the reasons why they've done it, but they're remaining very tight lipped. >> eric, let me let me come to you because of course, when you listen to stories like this, you realise it took somebody with such a profile nigel such a high profile as nigel farage to shine a light this farage to shine a light on this problem small problem where small organisations, is in organisations, charity is in fact can affected in fact also can be affected in this way. were you aware that it

was going on behind the scenes and you understand why? and can you understand why? >> and the >> yeah, well, and the organisation that i that that that sent me to today the media diversity institute based here in london and they know from their own experience and from their own experience and from the experience of other ngos that they do need to report to their banks about where money is shifting, even if they're trying to shift money for charitable purposes , for humanitarian purposes, for humanitarian causes. purposes, for humanitarian causes . and often it's not causes. and often it's not a very transparent process . and so very transparent process. and so this is one reason why, you know, this hurts people across the political spectrum. so how do we keep because, as you say, you representing the media diversity organisation, how do we those issues in moving along? >> because we would all agree that we want to live in a world where people aren't discriminated against on the immutable characteristics, i was saying, but without it becoming immutable characteristics, i was sisoi’l|, but without it becoming immutable characteristics, i was sisoi’l ofyut without it becoming immutable characteristics, i was sisoi’l of culturalut it becoming immutable characteristics, i was sisoi’l of cultural tyranny,oming a sort of cultural tyranny, which a of us feel a sort of cultural tyranny, whicwe a of us feel a sort of cultural tyranny, whicwe now a of us feel a sort of cultural tyranny, whicwe now live of us feel a sort of cultural tyranny, whicwe now live in.)f us feel a sort of cultural tyranny, whicwe now live in. big; feel that we now live in. big question i know . question i know. >> well, i mean, again , i think

>> well, i mean, again, i think ihave >> well, i mean, again, i think i have found very few people across the political spectrum disagreeing that someone should have a bank account at. actually, it seems to me that from left to right, everyone has concede at this point and so obviously an essential service should not be at risk once these sorts of essential services are secure, then people do . you have secure, then people do. you have every reason to feel secure in voicing their own opinions because that threat should not because that threat should not be looming over anyone, no matter where they are on the political spectrum. but it's the it's the pressure of diversity, inclusivity , as we've been inclusivity, as we've been saying. >> it's the pressure, particularly from the trans activists, that that organised that i feel that movement is encouraged audibly. i'd almost go so far as to say aggressive actually at times you only have to look at the experience of jk rowling. but how so? how have we got the where people got to the point where people can basic services like can have basic services like bank off bank accounts taken off them? like how was how have we pushed that pendulum? so far? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, no, i mean, it's true

that businesses do worry about their associations, about who's affiliated with them, about the kind reputations that they kind of reputations that they have. again, sorry , should have. but again, sorry, should they be worried? yes they should be worried about their corporate ethics. they should be worried about how act in the world about how they act in the world and the effects have on the and the effects they have on the world. they should be worried about relationships about their relationships with the broader community. but people denied people should not be denied essential those essential services. and those and two are compatible. and those two are compatible. >> and like it's a >> and it feels like it's a tipping point, doesn't it, like that, now that, that conversation now we've realised how far that we've realised that how far that pendulum has swung, i think this week. you agree with that? >> i think that's right. i mean, you think the term that you know, i think the term that we've about this is we've used about this is progressive discrimination. an like are now. like that's where we are now. it's action that we wouldn't it's an action that we wouldn't have considered legitimate it being under the being authorised under the banner of progressive values . it banner of progressive values. it doesn't make it any less wrong. yeah >> okay. thanks, guys, for kicking off right. coming up kicking us off right. coming up still this evening, we're going to on this to be carrying on this conversation. going be conversation. i'm going to be talking author, fact, talking to the author, in fact, of how woke one joanna

welcome back. this is bev turner in for neil oliver tonight. i know it's a disappointment, but what can you do? it's disappointing for me as well. i'd normally be sat at home watching him. before the watching him. now before the break we were discussing what woke means. i'm woke actually means. and i'm joined of how joined now by the author of how woke joanna williams. good woke one. joanna williams. good evening, thank you for evening, jo. thank you for joining know you're a joining us. i know you're at a conference evening , so you conference this evening, so you heard me. maybe you heard me talking at the top of the show about the definition of woke. and do you feel that it's a word thatis and do you feel that it's a word that is fully understood? because think there's a huge because i think there's a huge amount of confusion and ambiguity and i don't ambiguity around it. and i don't think works we think language works unless we all on what the words mean all agree on what the words mean i >> -- >> no, i 5mm >> no, i think you're absolutely right. there is a lot of confusion around this word, but i think people instinctively know woke when they see it. we know woke when they see it. we know when we're being force fed a diet of diversity that we

didn't sign up to. and we're being force fed inclusion when we're being kicked out of our bank accounts. we recognise that when we come up against things that are going on in society that are going on in society that we haven't actually voted for, that we didn't actually ask to be part of that. we feel as if we're being kind of pushed upon us. so i think we do. we do recognise it we see it, but recognise it when we see it, but the beauty, if you like, of woke for the advocates of these policies is that they can then stand and deny . they can stand back and deny. they can say, oh no, we're not woke. there's thing as woke there's no such thing as woke you don't know what the you don't even know what the word so how can you word means. so how can you complain about these things? >> i'm fascinated by this idea, joe, that a word that is so powerful and yet nobody will claim to be it. and yet it underpins so much of our life. as i was saying at the top of the show , do you do you ever the show, do you do you ever come across anybody in your work as an academic or in writing this book who would see themselves as woke and say proudly, yes, i am a woke person. i represent these values

. i live them . . i live them. >> i mean, i think a few years ago, definitely now what you get more is people saying, well , of more is people saying, well, of course i'm some people will say, of course i'm woke. and we've even had police officers coming out and saying, well, why wouldn't you be woke? but then they up by saying, they follow that up by saying, well, all woke means is well, because all woke means is that interested that you're interested in equality. not racist, equality. you're not racist, you're not sexist, you're not homophobic. so who could possibly be against this? who would be anti—woke ? but i have would be anti—woke? but i have problem with that because i think that's actually really disingenuous. you know, i'm not racist. i'm not sexist , disingenuous. you know, i'm not racist. i'm not sexist, i'm not homophobic , but i wouldn't homophobic, but i wouldn't describe myself as woke because what woke means is something more than that. it implies an element of coercion, an element of compulsion , and a kind of of compulsion, and a kind of authoritarian approach to really enforcing a specific set of values upon people. >> how significant is it, joe, that nigel farage has blown a

hole in this corporate culture this week ? this week? >> i think it's massive, and i think he's done everybody a favour by really exposing what's going on here. i mean, i absolutely take my hat off to him. it's something which is badly needed because i think what it shows is the fact that it doesn't really matter if no individuals go around calling themselves woke, because what we've got is the complete institutionalisation of a set of values . these values have been values. these values have been incorporated as part of a kind of bureaucracy that we have to confront in our everyday lives now. and, you know , on the one now. and, you know, on the one hand, it's just incredibly foolish to have taken away nigel farage's bank account. you know, he's a well known public figure here. he is a major feature of the international political stage. so the sheer arrogance that led them to think they could get away with doing this without there being a backlash, i think really speaks again to the authoritarianism of the people who are driving this

agenda. >> one thing that really struck me from your book, joe, is that whilst we're talking about skin colour and gender to some degree as well, the one thing that i think does hold people back in life in terms of opportunity is actually social class . and that actually social class. and that gets cast into the shadow , gets cast into the shadow, doesn't it? in so many of these conversations , versions of, of conversations, versions of, of around woke. and that's something i think we should probably be committing more time to think about. do you agree ? to think about. do you agree? >> absolutely. and i think in some ways that's the beauty of woke values for the people who run elite institutions , is that run elite institutions, is that it allows them to present themselves as being very politically correct, very in favour of equality party at the same time, without really making any difference whatsoever to the way that people that society is organised, poor people will stay poor because the woke agenda is not to going have any impact upon that whatsoever either. you know, they can play around and

and kind of bedeck banks in rainbow flags, but people without money will still be people without money. >> what's the next stage for woke in our culture? i mean, it's different. i would say next week than it would have been two weeks ago if this hadn't all happened. what do you predict happening now, joe? >> one thing really >> well, one thing that really heartens me i think the only heartens me is i think the only way really to push back and challenge woke through challenge woke is through democracy is through ballot democracy is through the ballot box. obviously we box. and i think obviously we saw with brexit, we've seen even with the by—election and with the recent by—election and the that that's people the way that that's led people to question the whole expansion of ulez, the low emission traffic zone. i think democracy is actually pushing our political leaders to question the values that they've been promote ing. and i think that's a really positive development. i think the more people see of woke, the less they like it . and woke, the less they like it. and now we just need the opportunity to be able to put these things to be able to put these things to the test in the ballot box. and you know, i think a great

thing that's come out of what nigel farage has experience with coots that it's helped coots is that it's helped to shine that that kind of sunlight, the disinfectant that comes sunlight and actually comes with sunlight and actually expose what's going on and bring it home to people. and i think another important thing that happened, you know, that's really the really worth a mention is the fact that happened to gina fact that this happened to gina miller, you know, who was miller, too. you know, who was the you know, the pro—remain person you know, who really pushed that. and i think that showed people on the left who were arguing, you know, this is just a nigel farage problem, that actually it's not you know, this is a problem of banks and our institutions. and if this could happen to nigel farage, could to farage, if it could happen to gina you know, this gina miller, you know, this could to of us. could happen to any one of us. so it's in all of our interests to be pushing back and challenging what's going on here. fantastic. here. yeah, fantastic. >> thank jo. joanna >> thank you, jo. joanna williams author of how williams there, author of how woke you want woke one. if you want to understand it in more detail, thoroughly, thoroughly, recommend you, joanna, recommend it. thank you, joanna, for evening. for joining us this evening. ben, we're talking then ben, when we're talking then about implications of about what the implications of this might be, i mentioned at

the about we we're the top as well about we we're moving very rapidly. i think behind the scenes towards a central banking digital currency, a financial system and finance is your background. so it's a financial system which may come with conditions attached as it does in other countries such as china. do you think conversation now that think this conversation now that we're having, makes that less likely because people are suddenly aware ? suddenly aware? >> i think this has been a big awakening moment. certainly for the public, and i think it will be also for the corporate world. yeah. what nigel has has done that others before didn't have the profile to achieve is as as you say, as joe has said, is shine a light. and i think what what's particularly pernicious about the way that natwhen east coots and doubtless others have gone about this is that it's beenin gone about this is that it's been in the dark, as you said in your opening monologue. it's you know, it's in shady boardrooms where these decisions get made. and i think transparency is, is what we need. eric can i just

ask you about what i mentioned to joe then about social class? >> so we would all agree that we all want all people to get on and we all want to find more reasons to bring human beings together rather than divide us. and that's one thing we and i think that's one thing we maybe haven't upon, is maybe haven't touched upon, is that with a lot of that the problem with a lot of woke culture is it feels divisive. it's pointing out the difference the time. and difference all the time. and i want together. want to bring people together. but comes to social but when it comes to social class, particularly of class, particularly in terms of opportunities in this country, that's conversation don't that's a conversation we don't have enough, isn't it? >> well, i don't know. i mean, the entire so—called woke movement you just want to movement or if you just want to call it a kind ongoing long call it a kind of ongoing long history leftism, always history of leftism, has always been from its been about social class from its very origins. >> and don't think that ever >> and i don't think that ever left the agenda. and i think, you know, people who one would identify are identify with woke ism are absolutely involved in pushing for greater economic opportunity and educational opportunity. everything that has to do with social class. so i would not set those up as opposites of woke versus social class. i don't think this has ever been the

case. and in fact, i would also go back to something that joanna talked about. you know, this idea woke tyranny . there idea of a woke tyranny. there have always been these tyrannies in life , in institutions. in social life, in institutions. i mean , were there no tyrannies i mean, were there no tyrannies back in the days when our institutions were all white men? was that not also a kind of tyranny? you know , and so and so tyranny? you know, and so and so and so. of course, we want less coercion. of course we want to be able to speak our mind without fear of unfair repercussions . yes, but i don't repercussions. yes, but i don't think we should overegg the way we're wokeism . we're describing wokeism. >> but i think in terms of that particular sort of patriarchal tyranny, is what you're tyranny, which is what you're describing, yeah, we all we were all aware that. we all knew all aware of that. we all knew that. if women that. we knew that if women didn't a bank account, there didn't get a bank account, there was a woman didn't was a reason why a woman didn't get a bank account. i mean, we're going back many, many years, it's very different years, but it's very different to i think we were to what i think we were subjected isn't it, in subjected to now, isn't it, in terms discrimination? mean, terms of discrimination? i mean, we sitting here we you know, we're sitting here talking fact that talking about the fact that a wealthy, successful man wasn't allowed to based on his allowed to bank based on his values . that's very different.

values. that's very different. >> but and i think we've all pretty much agreed that he should his bank account . should have his bank account. >> again, i've seen no >> you know, again, i've seen no one really disagreeing with this i >> -- >> but funnily enough , we have >> but funnily enough, we have like we've seen, we've seen some very few media, a couple of bbc presenters who seem to think it was nothing particularly to get excited about. >> and we're little bit snooty >> and we're a little bit snooty about but anyway, we've about people, but anyway, we've got move on, guys. sorry got to move on, guys. sorry about that. still come, about that. still to come, how de—banking isn't just a uk phenomenon. i'm to going be joined all the way from south florida mercola, who florida by dr. joe mercola, who jp saw fit to jp morgan chase saw fit to cancel for his views on the pandemic. that, though, pandemic. before that, though, let's a quick check on that let's have a quick check on that very important weather. looks like things heating up . like things are heating up. >> boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. hope you're able to enjoy some of the sunny spells we did have around today, but there are still some showers lingering on tonight and into tomorrow, for tomorrow, particularly for northern western

northern ireland, western scotland where there's still the chance of those chance that some of those could be pushing into be heavy, a few pushing into western wales through western england, wales through the area. but the bristol channel area. but eastern of england eastern areas of england generally staying drier with some not some clear intervals. it's not going overnight going to be too chilly overnight for of us, holding for most of us, holding up around 12 to 14 c might drop into single figures across the far north—east of scotland . far north—east of scotland. showers from the word go as well for central scotland, pushing their further south their way down further south into england as well. into northern england as well. so that they could be so the chance that they could be heavy, the odd rumble of heavy, maybe the odd rumble of thunder during the day well. thunder during the day as well. for though, for the southwest, though, we are going to see the cloud building outbreaks of rain building as outbreaks of rain push for wales, push their way in for wales, southwest england, into southwest england, then into northern and eventually northern ireland and eventually southeast as southeast england later on as well, do on to well, where you do hold on to the though, climbing the sunshine, though, climbing to highs 21, 22 c. that to highs around 21, 22 c. that area of low pressure that's bringing this rain will steadily progressing its way eastwards. overnight, light winds further to the north where those isobars are spaced well apart, but squeezing together across the south, quite breezy. south, really quite breezy. first thing on monday morning, potential mile hour potential for 40 mile an hour gusts along some coast of the

engush gusts along some coast of the english channel. these outbreaks of lingering in of rain still lingering in places as well. a few brighter spells for central england, but the sunshine the best of the sunshine certainly northern certainly reserved for northern areas and there'll areas of scotland. and there'll be head be further showers as we do head into the of the week as into the rest of the week as well. otherwise, enjoy rest well. otherwise, enjoy the rest of your evening. bye bye. >> looks like things are heating up . boxed boilers, proud up. boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on .

gb news. >> welcome back to neil oliver live with me bev turner. now i'm delighted to say that we're going to take this debate stateside as it's not only here that services are being that banking services are being fipped that banking services are being ripped away from controversial figures. had figures. dr. joe mccullough had his chase bank accounts in the us as well as those us taken away, as well as those of cfo and family of his ceo, cfo and family members. and dr. mccullough jones joins me now from florida . hi, joe. great to see you. thank you for joining . hi, joe. great to see you. thank you forjoining us. i'm thank you for joining us. i'm interested to know, firstly why these accounts were closed and

what have the effects been on on you and your colleagues as. well? >> interestingly , we're also >> interestingly, we're also interested to find out and understand why they closed because they refused to disclose that to us, even though after repeated requests they have not given us any definitive answers . we can only speculate as to what those reasons are, and it's impacted our employees quite significantly . one of our cfo significantly. one of our cfo has is a disabled husband who's, uh, requires 24 over seven care, and he's in the philippines and his bank account is , is his bank account is, is intimately tied , tied and intimately tied, tied and connected with his ability to receive this care. so it's been an enormous hardship and it's unfair for someone , you know, unfair for someone, you know, there's just no justification for this type of action that we can understand the fine. >> you very much swam against the tide of public opinion dufing the tide of public opinion during the pandemic, didn't you , dr. mccullough? and presumably that must be partly why this

decision has been taken . decision has been taken. >> well, i think a pretty safe speculation, but yes, i was awarded the badge of honour of being the number one spot spreader of this covid misinformation in 2021 by the biden administration and the white house and the press secretary's and the nih. so i was very pleased for that. we had bobby kennedy running for the president in 2024. he was also on the list. he was number two. so you know, there's a high likelihood that that is something to do with it, especially in light of the fact that the federal government seems to be in collusion with the banks. just recently, the banks. and just recently, the banks. and just recently, the regional in the large regional bank in the united states belly up and united states went belly up and the government decided the federal government decided to that banking assets to transfer that banking assets to transfer that banking assets to chase and you have to speculate and wonder maybe it has something to do with the coordinating efforts that the government wants. so we don't know. we have no proof. it's only pure speculation, but it's certainly a possibility. >> it's your tweet about this

has been viewed more than about 10.5 million times. you're very popular on on social media. but is this sort of travesty making the mainstream media in america at all, or is it like here until at all, or is it like here until a week ago, it was solely the preserve of social media? >> that's a great question. you know, i really can't comment accurately on that because i don't look at mainstream media. i've long since realised and understood that the information they spread is just it's a really and double speak and you can almost trust anything they're saying is the exact opposite of what the truth is. so watch mainstream. so i don't watch mainstream. i will review the new york times and washington post just to and the washington post just to make sure to understand what the narrative to push narrative they're trying to push on but other than on the public. but other than that you know, just am not that, you know, i just am not connected to that in any way, shape form. shape or form. >> has your organisation and >> so has your organisation and the who work for it been the people who work for it been able to just simply go out and get new bank accounts? is it just little inconvenience or

just a little inconvenience or has it really hit them hard ? has it really hit them hard? well yeah, it's more than a little inconvenience . little inconvenience. >> it's a major inconvenience . >> it's a major inconvenience. and i mean, the business is the business and they've given us a month to transfer accounts. so and they're in the process of doing it. it's just a lot of extra unnecessary work. and for and i can't speak to the specific fix of what's going on with my cfo and her husband, but i'm hoping that it's not to going interfere in their ability to his ability to continue to receive care. >> do you have any form of recourse, joe? do you have any means of getting justice? i mean, here, nigel farage happens to be such a huge figure that he has a public voice, but as you as a physician, as i say, you're very popular on social media, but you probably don't have the hotline to, to the, to the banks or the national newspapers . or the national newspapers. >> we've had many millions on social media. but as you know,

as a result of the pandemic, they essentially de—platformed us. so most of most of our social media presence is really from my previous awareness by the public and then other people that knew of me retweeted that message. so they were aware of what was going on. but the recourse we have is we filed a complaint with the state attorney general of florida , and attorney general of florida, and there's high likelihood that it will be some action on that front. and also the state of florida, where our business is and i live , has recently passed and i live, has recently passed legislation forbidding this type of discrimination . so we're of discrimination. so we're hoping that will play some impact and probably be the escalating this to the governor. governor ron desantis. >> well, i was just going to say , you have probably the most sympathetic governor in america when it comes to this issue in ron desantis. have you contacted him about this yet ? him about this yet? >> i believe our staff has, yes. yeah, but he's obviously in the

middle of a busy campaign. he's got quite a lot on. yeah but but do you have any idea whether you are an isolate case or how many others ? others? >> because here what's happened is nigel farage has gone public with his story and has been inundated with thousands of people and organisations who've been victims of the same sort of cancel culture. do you have any idea whether you are in a similar position there? >> i don't know if it's as massive as it is over there with with nigel's case, i, i have heard some stories, but i don't know how pervasive it is and i don't know what type of targeting they're implementing or what justification they're using because as i said, we've asked requested the asked and requested the information. just information. they've just refused than refused to provide us other than a generic statement. a nebulous generic statement. that absolutely nothing that means absolutely nothing because they they refuse refuse to provide any specific detail . to provide any specific detail. >> terrifying, absolutely chilling . dr. joseph mercola, chilling. dr. joseph mercola, it's a pleasure to talk to you. i think the work you've done has been phenomenal over the last couple years. very

couple of years. so i'm very happy to shine a light on on your situation here. molly kingsley run cold. >> oh, it makes my blood run. i mean, that sounds very, very familiar, particularly the bit about the lack transparency. about the lack of transparency. so know, are a year down so you know, we are a year down the line from it isn't the line from paypal. it isn't the line from paypal. it isn't the same what they did to us. that a far more serious that is a far more serious situation. they are targeting india people's accounts. india people's bank accounts. you know, never happened in you know, that never happened in the same way to us. but actually the same way to us. but actually the thought you can just the thought that you can just have your access to funding cut off at the whim of a bank or the government question mark. so i think one thing that we thought at the time is it wasn't just us for them, of course it was the free speech union. there were a couple of other accounts in the uk that were closed within days of each other we've never of each other and we've never got the bottom of whether got to the bottom of whether that was coordinated or whether it was coincidence. i think we have and yeah, it have our suspicions and yeah, it makes your run cold. it makes your blood run cold. it shouldn't and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't have happened and it should received attention should have received attention long before it did the uk , long before it did in the uk, kafkaesque isn't it?

>> right, guys, we've got a quick take, another quick break. but we're going to be doing something completely different after the break. it involves a very special telephone box. now, if you're under 30, ask an old person what a phone box was while we take a very short break. don't go away

welcome back to neil oliver live with me bev turner this evening. now, few things are symbolic of our changing times than a red telephone box. i get nostalgic for carrying a £0.10 piece in my back pocket even just letting back pocket or even just letting my phone ring twice. so my mum's phone ring twice. so she pick me up. but now she knew to pick me up. but now let's hear one of the few let's hear about one of the few remaining boxes that remaining phone boxes that stands platform at stands on the platform at chalfont and latimer, london underground station from councillor . good councillor martin tett. good evening, martin. tell us about this iconic red box. evening, martin. tell us about this iconic red box . why is this this iconic red box. why is this one so special . one so special. >> hi there, bev. well, i've lived out here in little

chalfont oh gosh, since the early 80s. i remember almost when you used to put a shilling in the slot rather than a £0.10 piece. but what happens here is that the railway station that on the railway station we've a very, very special we've got a very, very special telephone box. it's not one of the iconic red ones that you're probably thinking about. this is a slightly different, slightly movie and it's one of movie colour and it's one of what was 11,000 of them that used to be all across the railway network. they'd allow the staff to talk to each other, you know, in the days before mobile phones and all this sort of stuff . and by and large, of stuff. and by and large, they've all gone . there's only they've all gone. there's only four left now in the entire railway network. and this is the only one in buckinghamshire. so it's now a grade two listed monument . monument. >> how has it managed to not end up in a skip at some point. >> well, i think it's just been very lucky, to be honest with you . it's very tempting. i mean you. it's very tempting. i mean , i used to work in london, so i used to go to the station every morning and i'd pass this thing.

and every now and again i'd see somebody, you know, a member of staff sort of lounging inside it. sure i ever it. and i'm not sure i ever remember used, if i'm remember it being used, if i'm honest you, all the time. honest with you, all the time. since 80, i can't since the early 80, i can't remember actually ever remember anyone actually ever picking the phone in there. picking up the phone in there. but certainly, you know, but it was certainly, you know, all out. but they've all all decked out. but they've all gone. this is gone. you know, this is this is the one in bucks. it's one the only one in bucks. it's one of four on the entire network out of 11,000. mean, that's a out of 11,000. i mean, that's a lot of telephone kiosks. so i think just been think it's just been exceptionally lucky . either that exceptionally lucky. either that or like the doctor or it's a bit like the doctor who you get inside it who tardis, you get inside it and sort of and it just sort of dematerialise is when the junk junkman round. junkman came round. >> i'm looking at the picture of it here. martin it it on the screen here. martin it looks bit like the windows looks a bit like the windows smashed telephone box, smashed on the telephone box, but it isn't. is that but i presume it isn't. is that sort of frosted glass? and then you can see through the phone? >> yeah, you can see the phone, the inside. and that's the phone inside. and that's exactly see it when you exactly how you see it when you go there. it's just the way it was. it's been well was. it's been very well preserved over the years, which is we've given it the is why we've given it the listing so it's listing we have. so it's a pretty iconic thing. and it'd be sad it go, but i'm not sad to see it go, but i'm not quite sure, to honest with

quite sure, to be honest with you, going happen you, what's going to happen in five ten time, five and ten years time, because, you know, nobody else under you know, 30 or 40 under about, you know, 30 or 40 now remembers what on earth a telephone was. well, exactly i >> -- >> well, you've preserved it now forever anybody that's got a forever. anybody that's got a listed knows can listed building knows they can be absolute pain in the be an absolute pain in the posterior you do posterior when you try to do anything them. so you've made anything to them. so you've made someone's a someone's nightmare life a nightmare in the next few years if they want to do anything with that station . but i think that's that station. but i think that's all the good. you are all for the good. you are preserved. history here. >> well, it's not like there are thousands or hundreds of them left and given that there's only four in the entire four of them in the entire country as i said, country and you know, as i said, the only one in bucks, we just thought it was worth putting a stake in the ground and saying this is worthy of listing. it doesn't you know, doesn't mean it can't, you know, redecorate station or redecorate the station or whatever. they've just got to basically make sure that they take of telephone kiosk. >> yeah, well, well done councillor martin tett there preserving of preserving a little bit of history future generations. history for future generations. thank for joining thank you so much for joining us, molly. i long for the days when don't have a mobile when my kids don't have a mobile phone and use

phone and they'll go and use a phone and they'll go and use a phone box. do think they'll phone box. do you think they'll ever back? ever come back? >> i i mean, you know, >> oh, i do. i mean, you know, i was i've said it jokingly, but we, as you know, has this anti smartphone for kids campaign. and we launched, we expect and when we launched, we expect it to be really controversial. you know, everyone kept telling us it was impossible. and, you know, phones. oh, know, kids need phones. oh, don't do that. you're mad. everyone will you. why have everyone will hate you. why have you we never had you thought we have never had a more positive response generally to people accept to a campaign like people accept this is a problem at the moment without a solution. so my prediction in a few years is we will have some kind of wise phone , let's say, which is phone, let's say, which is a slimmed down phone , particularly slimmed down phone, particularly for children. you can call people on it, you can text. maybe we'll chuck in a weather app. the nonsense. app. none of the other nonsense. and will all be much happier. and we will all be much happier. >> that's a vision >> do you think that's a vision of future you would support? of the future you would support? eric where we all lose our mobile phones and back to mobile phones and go back to telephones, i vote telephones, landlines. i vote for yeah yeah, for wise phones. yeah yeah, i think well, it's very wise . think well, it's very wise. very, very wise . very, very wise. >> wendy con really take the safe option . it does, doesn't safe option. it does, doesn't it? >> i think so. i mean we've

seen, seen statues pulled seen, we've seen statues pulled down the last few years because of we were of our woke agenda we were talking i quite like it. talking about. i quite like it. ben, when you an image of ben, when you see an image of the past being retained like that. heritage, that. yeah, it's true heritage, isn't it? that. yeah, it's true heritage, isn'quirky, quirky, though is. >> quirky, quirky, though it is. and sort of thing and this, this sort of thing does, need protection does, does need protection because we see, as you say , the because we see, as you say, the statues can disappear in an instant with no consequences . instant with no consequences. and. well, one of the things that struck me when we were researching the show today was when was when the colston statue was pulled in bristol. pulled down in bristol. >> who did so said she >> the woman who did so said she wanted at the statue, wanted to look at the statue, too, in the eyes, which i thought hilarious. and it thought was hilarious. and it kind up of the kind of sums up some of the insanity of the woke stuff we've been talking about tonight. it's only eric only a statue. professor eric haynes, ben and molly kingsley, thank so much for me thank you so much forjoining me this had a lovely this evening. i've had a lovely time sitting neal. he's time sitting in for neal. he's still here. look, here is his lovely poster that somebody this picture that somebody did picture of him that somebody did self portrait. coming up next is the sense crusade. i'll the common sense crusade. i'll be back on monday morning at 930. then . 930. see you then. >> that warm feeling inside from

boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. hope you're able to enjoy some of the sunny spells we did have around today, but there showers there are still some showers lingering and into lingering on tonight and into tomorrow, for tomorrow, particularly for northern ireland, western scotland still the scotland where there's still the chance of could chance that some of those could be pushing into be heavy. a few pushing into western wales through be heavy. a few pushing into wes bristol wales through be heavy. a few pushing into wes bristol channel ales through be heavy. a few pushing into wes bristol channel area. hrough be heavy. a few pushing into wesbristol channel area. butigh the bristol channel area. but eastern areas of england generally drier with eastern areas of england generyclear drier with eastern areas of england generyclear intervals. er with eastern areas of england generyclear intervals. it's th eastern areas of england generyclear intervals. it's not some clear intervals. it's not going to be too chilly overnight for us holding around for most of us holding up around 12 to 14 c might drop into single figures across the far north—east of scotland . showers north—east of scotland. showers from the word go as well for central scotland pushing their way down further south into northern england well. so the northern england as well. so the chance could heavy, chance that they could be heavy, maybe rumble of thunder maybe the odd rumble of thunder dufing maybe the odd rumble of thunder during well. as for during the day as well. as for the southwest, though, are the southwest, though, we are going cloud building going to see the cloud building as rain push their as outbreaks of rain push their way in for wales, southwest england, then into northern ireland and eventually southeast england as well, where england later on as well, where you hold the sunshine,

you do hold on to the sunshine, though, climbing to highs around 21, 22 c. that area of low pressure that's bringing this rain will steadily progressing its way eastwards overnight night, light winds further to the north where those isobars are well but are spaced, well apart. but squeezing the squeezing together across the south, quite breezy first south, really quite breezy first thing on monday morning, potential mile an hour potential for 40 mile an hour gusts some coast of the gusts along some coast of the engush gusts along some coast of the english channel. these outbreaks of lingering in of rain still lingering in places well. a few brighter places as well. a few brighter spells for central england, but the best the sunshine the best of the sunshine certainly reserved for northern areas . there'll areas of scotland. and there'll be showers do head be further showers as we do head into rest into the rest

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christians in india after a horrific video emerged showing two women being subjected to truly shocking violence. parent coach anna friedman will be joining me to talk about the risks of children having phones in school following the un's new education report. and oli london will be here to discuss the world aquatics decision to start an open category . it will be an open category. it will be inclusive to all transgender athletes. and in the duel, my panellists will be discussing if pubs should change their name in support of stopping breeding of pedigree dogs. emma in a few seconds, what will your take be? >> this stupid . >> no, this is stupid. >> no, this is stupid. >> and andrew, i have to disagree. >> it is totally stupid. i think it's absolutely absolute nonsense. >> but before all of that, it's the news with polly middlehurst i >> -- >> thanks emma >> thanks very much indeed, calvin. the latest top stories this hour. two motorbikes have been recovered by police investigating a fatal hit and

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