gb news top of the morning. >> it's 930 on wednesday, the 9th of august. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with myself, martin daubney and emily carver. >> yes. thank you very much. could this be biggest cyber could this be the biggest cyber security in history .7 and security breach in history? and could your details have been accessed at more than 40 million of might have had our of us? might have had our details stolen and there's been a major blunder for the police service in northern ireland. they've released details of thousands of officers and civilian staff . civilian staff. >> if someone's going to be for the high jump, they're and the government strikes a deal with turkey to make it easier to return illegal migrants come turkey to make it easier to returon.legal migrants come turkey to make it easier to returon small�*nigrants come turkey to make it easier to returon small boats|ts come turkey to make it easier to returon small boats apparently|e here on small boats apparently it's about the two countries it's all about the two countries sharing tackle sharing information to tackle the the problem. but the root of the problem. but

will it work? yes. >> will it work? new >> will it work? now, new figures that the figures have revealed that the number of civil servants earning over £100,000 a has over £100,000 a year has increased to fold just over the last seven years. extraordinary is it time the government cut the number of civil servants? our very own jacob rees—mogg will join later on to give will join us later on to give his take. >> nobody will giving them >> nobody will be giving them both barrels and here the liberal democrats are reporting that more than three quarters of all burglaries last year were closed without a suspect even being identified in england and wales. and that's around an eye—watering 584 burglaries every single day . they don't every single day. they don't even get cleared up . even get cleared up. >> yes. and as always , please do >> yes. and as always, please do get in touch on all of the conversations we're having, all of the talking points today. lee anderson has been causing quite a of a stir, too, hasn't he, martin? >> he has. i spoke to him this morning. i think he's revelling in he's getting getting in the fact he's getting getting

britain look, he's some britain talking. look, he's some very fruity language. that's the way about as way he communicates about as subtle to the face. subtle as a brick to the face. but think huge majority of but i think the huge majority of the british public agree with him. >> think you might be right. >> i think you might be right. martin at gb views. martin so email us at gb views. >> gbnews.com. so us know >> at gbnews.com. so let us know what think on lee and all of what you think on lee and all of the rest of the stories today. but first, here's morning but first, here's your morning news tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. >> martin thank you very much. and good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom. the police service of northern ireland has apologised to its thousands of serving officers and civilian staff after a major data breach. a spreadsheet containing statistical information on the police force and its officers was mistakenly available online for around three hours before being taken down. the file contained personal information, including names , ranks, locations and names, ranks, locations and other identifying data, but it did not include addresses, phone numbers or financial details . an numbers or financial details. an assistant chief constable, chris

todd, apologised for the breach , but it said it does not pose an immediate security risk to any staff . a surge in illegal any staff. a surge in illegal people smuggling gangs is to be tackled by a new deal struck between the uk and turkey. the turkish national police is to establish a so—called centre of excellence, which would speed up the process of returning turkish nationals to come to britain via a legal channels. nationals to come to britain via a legal channels . the uk's sixth a legal channels. the uk's sixth biggest water firms are facing legal action over claims they underreported pollution incidents and overcharged customers . their claims are customers. their claims are being brought by professor carolyn roberts, an environmental and water consultant. the first claim will be brought on behalf of 8 million people against seven trent water and is estimated to be worth more than £330 million. water uk says the accusations are entirely without merit and that 99% of sewage works are

legally compliant. that 99% of sewage works are legally compliant . and several legally compliant. and several of britain's biggest lenders will cut their interest rates today. will cut their interest rates today . nationwide is set to cut today. nationwide is set to cut up to nought .55% off its fixed rate mortgages, and tsb will slash around 0.40% from selected five year fixed rate products . five year fixed rate products. hsbc is also expected to cut rates, though it hasn't yet provided details . you can get provided details. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , visiting our website, gbnews.com. now it's back to martin and . emily and the police martin and. emily and the police service of northern ireland has apologised to officers and civilians staff after it mistakenly published the data of every serving employee in a serious data breach. >> yes, the data breach reportedly involved names, ranks and other personal data of staff i >> -- >> yeah. psni assistant chief constable chris todd apologised for the quotes. human error and

says it will be fully investigated . investigated. >> and i understand that that will be of considerable concern to many of my colleagues and their families. to many of my colleagues and theirfamilies. indeed, to many of my colleagues and their families. indeed, at the moment we operate in an environment at the moment where there's a severe threat to our colleagues from northern ireland related terrorism . and this is related terrorism. and this is the last thing that anybody in the last thing that anybody in the to be the organisation wants to be hearing. evening . hearing. this evening. >> yes. so those were the words of chris todd. but joining us live from psni headquarters is dougie beattie, our northern ireland reporter with the very latest. this has been described as a monumental data breach . as a monumental data breach. >> oh, it has, and it is. i'm over 30 years in the media in northern ireland and i have neverin northern ireland and i have never in my time there seen an own goal like this . officers are own goal like this. officers are really asking they are put through many , many courses about through many, many courses about data security and are breach two on a regular basis on that. and they are saying, well , how on they are saying, well, how on earth did this very highly

sensitive information get from the psni headquarters and into the psni headquarters and into the public domain? i mean, this information has now, as you said, no home address or telephone number, but with those with social media, this information carries initial, it carries surname , it carries rank carries surname, it carries rank , it carries service number. it is unbelievable what it actually does carry. and what will happen here, there will be a great cost to the psni of having to redeploy its staff into other stations because of course it gives location of where those officers are actually at. and in amongst those are 40 that are actually working along with the mi5 actually working along with the m15 and those intelligence officers . so you can imagine how officers. so you can imagine how many people are now in a very nervous situation . ian. i mean, nervous situation. ian. i mean, especially when we think back to february, dci john caldwell, the attempted murder of himself outside omana leisure centre, the police federation here this morning . liam kelly has said how

morning. liam kelly has said how angry they are, but most of all how dismay they are. and there are calls for the chief constable to now return from his houday constable to now return from his holiday and look after the staff security that he is responsible for. there will be a policing board meeting tomorrow at 10:00 and it will be really touch and go whether this chief constable can hold on to his job because for once the politicians are all ruling out to have their say because this is something that they're not involved in. this was an own goal by the psni very much indeed . much indeed. >> dougie beattie there are northern ireland. reporter bringing us up to date on that mental, mental well a bit of both. >> it is mental, massive, momentous and mental, a massive data breach. >> the concern is whether terrorist organisations could use this data for their benefit i >> -- >> well, at the moment terror threats in northern ireland are severe. the timing is terrible. i mean, this is a human error of the very highest magnitude . the very highest magnitude. somebody has to get the chop for

this. >> absolutely. it sounds like it. yeah >> they'll for the high jump. >> they'll be for the high jump. and on, talking and later on, we're talking about number of civil about the number of civil servants and bureaucrats in this country we country ballooning. and here we have of just have a classic example of just basic, human error. basic, terrible human error. >> yep. well, moving on, uk and the uk and turkey have struck a new deal to address the surge in illegal migration. it will focus on coordinated efforts to disrupt the supply chains and dismantle people smuggling gangs. the agreement will also see a new operation centre set up see a new operation centre set up in turkey by the country's national police, as well as faster exchange of customs data and other intelligence. well, we've got the leader of reform uk, richard tice, here in the studio with us. well, that sounds all good, doesn't it ? sounds all good, doesn't it? >> well, yes, we hear all these warm words and these lots of these sort of agreements and arrangement. it's reached with everybody jenrick arrangement. it's reached with everyitouring jenrick arrangement. it's reached with everyitouring the jenrick arrangement. it's reached with everyitouring the studios, 'ick loves touring the studios, saying how wonderful is. but saying how wonderful it is. but the truth is, reality is the truth is, the reality is that it makes not a blind bit of difference. and actually, the vast majority of the equipment for these boats , the engines and for these boats, the engines and indeed the from the

indeed the dinghies from the research i've done and from research that i've done and from information got actually information i've got actually comes from china. i think this will make not a blind bit of difference. reality when difference. the reality is when the weather's good, the winds in the weather's good, the winds in the the right direction more the in the right direction more and migrants will and more illegal migrants will make this crossing we're make this crossing because we're so foolish as to be the most generous nation in europe with the all provisions the with all of the provisions that we provide. >> and you to wonder, >> and you have to wonder, richard, as with france , is this richard, as with france, is this a case of throwing good money after it's another £3 after bad? it's another £3 million. we gave £3 million last year anyway. it was 425 grand the year before. it doesn't seem to have made a blind bit of difference. fact, we've got difference. in fact, we've got record this just record numbers. is this just window dressing? is it course acting it's not about the acting like it's not about the money? >> the more money we send to france, the more migrants they send to us. that is the truth. this only stops when actually we do what the australians did, and that we pick people up safely that is we pick people up safely out the channel. we put them out of the channel. we put them into our border force cutters and using international law , and using international law, current we take them current treaties, we take them back to dunkirk and calais and

then all of a sudden this whole business model stops. >> to be fair to the government and i'm not always fair to the government perhaps, but it does seem are trying to seem like they are trying to solve this problem and they're trying solve it multiple trying to solve it on multiple fronts. this is just fronts. and this is just presumably one small little detail of that plan. and if it has, you say that i'm sorry, but actually they would there are large chunks of the civil service who work for the government and who work for us taxpayers who actively do not want to solve this problem. >> in fact, they actively are happy to encourage ever more people to come over. and the more we are, the more more generous we are, the more we become a greater magnet . the we become a greater magnet. the only way to stop this is to have leaders in government who have the courage and the leadership to say , we will push back, we to say, we will push back, we will take people back. the australians did it. the problem went away. we should do it. we should show the leadership that is then used in the med to stop people coming across the med. >> you in charge, you'd >> if you were in charge, you'd be stronger in suella braverman

and the and stronger would be the strongest of all. >> i would up , i strongest of all. >> i would up, i would take >> i would pick up, i would take back within fortnight this back and within a fortnight this whole stops . the business whole thing stops. the business model do a deal model finishes. we do a deal with france. you process people within two weeks, job done. it sounds great on paper and people want . want that. >> hear it all the time. just >> i hear it all the time. just tell just send them tell them back. just send them back. there an back. but there would be an almighty hoo a diplomatic almighty hoo ha. a diplomatic face off with france if that were to happen. you think were to happen. do you think that's step that's worth that's a step that's worth taking, where are? >> of course is the australia >> of course it is the australia danes did it ten years ago and there a almighty sea there was a almighty sea international hoo—hah. but do you what people you know what people want? action on? don't want action on? they don't want waffle. don't want our waffle. they don't want our taxpayers wasted. taxpayers cash wasted. they want action. this stopped action. they want this stopped up and the country. you up and down the country. you know, communities are having their lives , their high their their lives, their high streets blighted by having these young men of military age being dumped into their communities. and there is a huge amount of suffering of sadly , resentment, suffering of sadly, resentment, growing. people feel it's unfair. is it not good , though, unfair. is it not good, though, that the government has some

focus on international cooperation in in terms of working with countries like turkey where we know people smugglers work, where we know migrants come through, where we know i'm not saying migrants. >> i'm not saying it's not it's not something that is i don't suppose it will be completely useless . useless. >> i'm not saying it's not good to have international cooperation, course, the cooperation, of course, but the best all is to best cooperation of all is to stop this problem at source. and the only way you can do that is to pick people up and take them back where they come from. every thing else. because where there's money involved, the people smugglers , the criminals, people smugglers, the criminals, they will always find a way to get around the best intentions of civil servants and elected ministers. that's the reality. >> can we talk about the specific strategic importance of turkey and the routes? because of course it's a gateway from countries like syria, afghanistan in and we know it's been a back door for people like isis historically because of those land borders and the turks to be fair to them, they don't

want to keep terrorist and millions of refugees in their country. there's been no incentive to let them just wander through main land wander through to main land europe. and then, of course, we thanks freedom of thanks to the freedom of movement become on movement they become on the shores so turkey is shores of calais. so turkey is something that needs to be dealt with. how could we do that if this the way i think? this isn't the way i think? >> you've got to you've got to talk to everybody. but but fundamentally, as i say, the criminals will always a way criminals will always find a way to around this. and nations to get around this. and nations have to recognise that sovereign borders are the most important thing to protect your citizens and the turks have got to do it. every nation needs to look after its borders and where you've got open borders, you've got absolute chaos all across the world. we're an island for heaven's sake. and so we should be better than anybody to protect our borders. and fundamentally , the role of the fundamentally, the role of the british government is to protect the people, british the british people, british citizen does keep us safe, and they are fundamentally failing. >> do you say those >> what do you say to those people, might be people, richard, who might be listening they we are listening and they say, we are not taking our fair share

compared to other european, they're completely wrong. >> we've taken sorry, this >> we've taken i'm sorry, this is you say to those is this do you say to those people, this is garbage, they're complete wrong. taken more people, this is garbage, they're compoure wrong. taken more people, this is garbage, they're comrour fair)ng. taken more people, this is garbage, they're comrour fair share taken more people, this is garbage, they're comrour fair share since aken more people, this is garbage, they're comrour fair share since 2015.�*nore than our fair share since 2015. we've taken approaching half a million people by way of asylum seekers lawfully through our own safe and legal routes. so we have more than been generous. we can't take everybody. that's just a fact of life. and we understand economic migrants wanting a better life. there are millions of british citizens who want a better life. i come back the role of government is to look after the british people. >> i ask you a question >> can i ask you a question we're to audience we're asking to our audience today? that is lee anderson. today? and that is lee anderson. in colourful terms , in in typically colourful terms, in no terms, told people no uncertain terms, told people if they don't like it in here in britain, coming from france, you can bleep off specifically on the to france on the bibby the barge to france on the bibby stockholm because people are complaining too complaining that it was too cramped, wi—fi wasn't good cramped, the wi—fi wasn't good enough, and forth. enough, so on and so forth. isn't funny? question is, isn't it funny? the question is, do lee is speaking do you think lee is speaking common sense or should not be using language like that? >> for the

>> he was speaking for the people. think for the majority people. i think for the majority of the british people who are so angry unfairness , the angry at the unfairness, the abuse, the exploitation of our hospitality and generosity . and hospitality and generosity. and isn't it interesting, the front page of the sun today? i like it. the first bloke on who, by the way, comes from albania, and he should be back in albania. he says he likes it. so all of the lefty lawyers and the human rights lot actually complain completely and utterly wrong. the truth is, this barge has regularly been used for british construction workers as construction workers as construction projects around the uk as well as elsewhere . where uk as well as elsewhere. where is perfectly fine? the key thing, though, is to process people quickly as used to happen 1520 years ago. do it in a fortnight and deport those whose claims are illegitimate. it's quite incredible that lawyers may well be able to use a fear of water as a legal challenge. >> somebody who came over in dinghy. >> there's been cobbled together in a sweatshop. it suddenly afraid of water on a floating hotel. >> it highlights the hypocrisy

and the nonsense. >> so you think those who think lee went a bit far with his language are just pearl clutchers? >> richard, i would. i'm not going to say pearl clutchers, but i think look, i think they are pursuing their own interests. i think it's ridiculous. and frankly , lee ridiculous. and frankly, lee spoke for the people. well shooting straight from the hip there. >> richard tice leader of the reform party, thank you very much joining us today on much for joining us today on britain's gb news. britain's newsroom on gb news. thank you. >> thank you very much indeed. good stuff. strong stuff. >> out of trap. >> straight out of the trap. lovely let's on. lovely okay, now let's move on. now, do think we pay too now, do you think we pay too much for our civil servants? not only the civil service grown only is the civil service grown by in the last by almost a quarter in the last seven years, the number those seven years, the number of those earning more than 100 grand has also almost half also doubled, with almost half of guessed of them. yep you guessed it, working my goodness. of them. yep you guessed it, worthat's my goodness. of them. yep you guessed it, worthat's the my goodness. of them. yep you guessed it, worthat's the key my goodness. of them. yep you guessed it, worthat's the key point,goodness. of them. yep you guessed it, worthat's the key point, isn't1ess. >> that's the key point, isn't it? these people on these massive salaries the ones it? these people on these mas�*are salaries the ones it? these people on these mas�*are working from home,s it? these people on these mas�*are working from home, and who are working from home, and that's according to a taxpayers alliance report that says the increase largely london increase is largely london centric a centric with civil servants on a lower less. of coui'se. >> course. >> reporter paul hawkins joins us studio . it's just us now in the studio. it's just i think it's just an absolutely

eye opening moment that these figures not only talk about the rates of pay and the expansion , rates of pay and the expansion, but the fact now that really leapt out at me. paul, we now have more civil servants than people in the armed forces. we are being ran by an army of bureaucrats. >> yeah. so this comes from the taxpayers alliance , who of taxpayers alliance, who of course campaigned for the right wing think tank that campaigned for smaller government. it's not the first time we've heard it from them, from a lot of other people well. they've been people as well. they've been looking figures from march looking at figures from march 20th 16 2023. and according 20th 16 to 2023. and according to figures, they that to their figures, they say that the civil servants has the number of civil servants has risen 100,000. that's a risen by over 100,000. that's a 24.2% increase. the sharpest increase , they say, in the last increase, they say, in the last 50 some headlines from 50 years. some headlines from this report . they say the this report. they say the largest increase has been in london with an additional 25,000 posts. they say the overall staffing structure has moved away from frontline in services, what they call operational delivery, towards a policy and support functions . grade support functions. grade inflation and pay is nearly tripled. the number of civil

servants being paid over 75 grand a year. the median average civil service salary went up by 26% over that seven year period. and the total annual civil service salary bill rose to £17.8 billion. they say that's up 50. >> that is worth just just saying again, it went up by 60% to £17 billion per year every year. yeah >> yeah, i've spoken to the civil service press office, the cabinet office they've given us a statement. they say, as you'd expect during temporary and exceptional events such as the pandemic staff numbers increase to help tackle covid, including the world leading vaccine programme . they say they're programme. they say they're committed to efficiency and have made nearly £8 billion in savings in the last two financial years. they also point to to the validity of the to the to the validity of the report. they say that the taxpayers alliance have pulled data places . data from various places. they're not official statistics. there are some minor discrepancies . they say the discrepancies. they say the actual operational delivery , actual operational delivery, i.e.

actual operational delivery, he the head count and operational delivery, that's frontline services. so things like the dvla, the passport office etcetera. they say the head count is actually increased. that figure increased. and on that figure about the wage bill, they say that the figures don't into that the figures don't take into account inflation. and if you account inflation. and if you account for inflation, then the actual not been actual rise has not been disproportionate. yeah. actual rise has not been dis|okay.tionate. yeah. actual rise has not been dis|okay. butite. yeah. actual rise has not been dis|okay. but you(eah. actual rise has not been dis|okay. but you know, i'm >> okay. but you know, i'm looking talking to looking forward to talking to jacob about this jacob rees—mogg about this actually, because, you know , so actually, because, you know, so many mps bang on many conservative mps bang on about how it's so important to have how we have a smaller state, how we don't want to be by don't want to be run by bureaucrats, how, you know, the conservatives are the party of fiscal prudence and all of this , our civil service has , and yet our civil service has absolutely ballooned . and the absolutely ballooned. and the number of people on these big salaries working from home, i'm sorry. >> yeah, richard tice is still here. he was so cheesed off with us, he didn't want leave the studio. richard is still here. richard three years ago, boris promised to trim back to pare back the civil service to squash the blob. as it were. rishi came in. he did a u—turn on that. and now look at it. we got we got

more civil servants than people. >> again, warm words for the from the conservatives. they promised to cut the numbers by 90,000 and instead actually the numbers the pay has numbers have soared. the pay has soared . and here's the real soared. and here's the real point. they're working from home and the productivity, the performance , the quality, the performance, the quality, the delivery of our public services gets worse and worse. it seems that the more we're taxed, the more we pay , the worse it gets. more we pay, the worse it gets. >> yes, we've seen so many stories and ongoings at the dvla . yeah, the passport agency people not being able to get the service they need. strike action. et cetera. et cetera . action. et cetera. et cetera. >> and paul, what do you make of so we've got jacob rees—mogg on the show later. hopefully he'll have feisty words to say have some feisty words to say because he was the one who went around putting notes people's around putting notes on people's desks to work, desks saying, get back to work, wasn't i thought was wasn't it? which i thought was a great it's like, you great thing. it's like, you know, you're going to sit at know, if you're going to sit at home having a frothy coffee in your pyjamas, know, your pyjamas, you know, and people can't get driving people can't get a driving licence, a passport, licence, can't get a passport, i mean, can they actually do anything this? the anything about this? well, the civil say that

civil service does say that there more government there are more government departments their departments working at their desks now, more members of staff that the that the that are that the that the number working from home has number of working from home has fallen down. >> but they do they do talk about and about efficiency savings. and richard that richard made the point that bofis richard made the point that boris did want to cut boris johnson did want to cut the numbers of civil service, 100, it's the 100, 1000. yes. it's still the conservative party, but rishi sunak came different sunak came in different government, and he government, same party. and he said , they don't said actually, they don't believe the a top down believe in the top a top down approach you introduce approach where you introduce headcount targets. instead, they've government they've asked government departments to efficiency departments to find efficiency savings . savings. >> what i want to ask >> richard, what i want to ask you about is the polish optics of the blob, because we hear all the time the conspiracy theorists may say that they have a very different political outlook to the ruling conservative party . they try and conservative party. they try and stop things like deportation . is stop things like deportation. is their net zero fanatics. is that true or is that just a. >> i think it's absolutely true. i think what we're really seeing is that civil servants, they don't really believe in politics, that actually they run the show and they will run the show as they see fit

irrespective of what elected ministers and representatives want to do on behalf of the people who put them there. that's the real rub. >> i must say, richard. there are some civil servant who do take their position very seriously and they do understand that they are not the government, he they don't decide policy. so why i think there are i think there are a lot of incompetent civil servants, that's for sure. and there may some politically there may be some politically motivated that do there may be some politically motupted that do there may be some politically motup against that do there may be some politically motup against ministers.hat do there may be some politically motup against ministers. butdo rub up against ministers. but look at the end result. i don't think we should tar them all with the same brush. >> okay. i'm sure there are >> no. okay. i'm sure there are some, say, who who want some, as you say, who who want to a good and who believe to do a good job and who believe in democracy. but look the in democracy. but look at the results. look at what the senior civil the permanent civil servants do, the permanent secretaries. we know what they're they're they're trying to do. they're trying to undermine. i mean, the moment minister like dominic moment any minister like dominic raab some raab tries to get some accountability and performance, they sorts of they throw out all sorts of completely fraudulent allegations, utterly ridiculous. absolutely you know, absolutely right. so you know, i'm i don't it . absolutely right. so you know, i'm i don't it. the i'm sorry. i don't buy it. the people that count in the civil service they they run service they believe they run the show . the show. >> i know what you do

>> i don't know what you do about particularly all about this, particularly as all the london centric. and the jobs are london centric. and i there are not a lot of i imagine there are not a lot of government supporting new hires, perhaps. i don't know . perhaps. i don't know. >> final to you on this >> final word to you on this then, paul. what do you think then, paul. what do you think the government can do about this? they basically on this? or are they basically on their way out anyhow? and so the civil service just bide for time and then presumably the labour party even bigger party will want an even bigger civil because that's civil service because that's what the left wing tend like. what the left wing tend to like. >> yeah, look, the civil >> yeah, look, look, the civil service say we, we're service would say we, we're driving through efficiency savings. going savings. we're not going for a headcount target. there was a change in change in government, but we still have the same party. and of course, we head in towards the general election party. and of course, we head in towa year. e general election party. and of course, we head in towa year. so eneral election party. and of course, we head in towa year. so it'llal election party. and of course, we head in towa year. so it'll bezlection next year. so it'll be interesting what what interesting to see what the what the if there is a new government, what they intend to do. but yeah, it's an interesting one. there we go. >> well, you said the civil service bigger now than the service is bigger now than the army by a factor of about six. yeah. >> yeah. it's just outrageous. anyway, we have them in paul hawkins richard tice, thank you very your input. very much for your input. very lively come, lively debate. so still to come, more on this huge data breach.

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gb news top of the morning. >> it's 10 am. on wednesday, the 9th of august. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with myself, martin daubney and emily carver . emily carver. >> w- >> excellent stuff. so could this be the biggest cyber security breach in history? and could your details have been accessed ? more than 40 million accessed? more than 40 million of us might have had our details stolen. and in a major blunder, the police service in northern

ireland released details of thousands of officers and civilian staff . civilian staff. >> if someone's due for a p45 , >> if someone's due for a p45, the government strikes a deal with turkey to make it easier to return illegal migrants who come here on small boats. apparently it's all about the two countries sharing information to tackle the root of the problem . but the root of the problem. but will it work? >> martin's bit sceptical on >> martin's a bit sceptical on that new figures that one anyway. new figures have revealed that the number of civil earning over civil servants earning over £100,000 year increased £100,000 a year has increased twofold just over the last seven years. is it time the government cut the number of civil servants , especially at this time of a cost of living crisis? we're going to be speaking to jacob rees—mogg hot take rees—mogg to give his hot take in few moments. get back in just a few moments. get back to anyway, the liberal democrat >> anyway, the liberal democrat are reporting more than are reporting that more than three quarters of all burglaries in the financial year of 20 2223. that's last year were closed without a suspect being identified in england and wales, and that's around a whopping 584 burglaries every single day.

emily and lee anderson has been causing a bit of a stir. and lee anderson has been causing a bit of a stir . you causing a bit of a stir. you could say that. yeah in no uncertain terms , he said. people uncertain terms, he said. people who don't like the bibby stockholm can beep off back to france . is that the sort of france. is that the sort of words that you should be using or is it. >> yes. is it or is it unbecoming of a politician? let us know what you think. is he just straight talking? is he getting to the point? is that what like? let us know. what you like? let us know. vaiews@gbnews.com but before all latest all that, let's get your latest news headlines tatiana news headlines with tatiana sanchez. news headlines with tatiana sanchez . emily thank you very much. >> this is the latest from the newsroom. breaking news for you. 41 migrants have died in a shipwreck off the southern coast of italy. local media reports say four people who survived the wreckage told rescuers they were on a boat that had set off from tunisia and sank on its way to

italy's shores. that breaking news will bring you more in the next hour. the police service of northern ireland has apologised to its thousands of serving officers and civilian staff after a major data breach. a spreadsheet containing statistical information on the police force and its officers was mistakenly available online for around three hours before being taken down. the files contained personal information, including names , ranks, including names, ranks, locations and other identifying data. but it did not include addresses, phone numbers or financial details . assistant financial details. assistant chief constable chris todd apologised for the breach, but said it does not impose an immediate security risk to any staff . a surge in illegal people staff. a surge in illegal people smuggling gangs is to be tackled by a new deal struck between the uk and turkey. it will see by a new deal struck between the uk and turkey . it will see the uk and turkey. it will see the turkish national police establish a so—called centre of excellence, which would speed up the process of returning turkish nationals who come to britain via illegal channels.

nationals who come to britain via illegal channels . turkey's via illegal channels. turkey's often used as a major hub for people smuggling gangs due to its geographical location , and its geographical location, and reports suggest that many vessels used to cross the channel originate there. immigration minister robert jenrick told gb news that the dealis jenrick told gb news that the deal is a win for both countries , but declined to say how much it will cost. >> this is mainly about the share of intelligence and information between our world leading police and security services and their law enforcement authority forces so that if we find out something important that can be acted upon swiftly and vice versa, and also the sharing of latest technology and people so that at the critical border between turkey and bulgaria, we are strengthened our relationship there as well as in the big towns and cities of turkey as well. so it's a win win for both countries . countries. >> the uk economy will see stuttering growth over the next two years amid pressure from higher interest rates and increased unemployment . the

increased unemployment. the national institute of economic and social research says income inequality will grow along with unemployment and levels of debt by next year . however, there's by next year. however, there's some good news on the way. several of britain's biggest lenders will cut their interest rates today. nationwide is set to cut up to 0.55% off its fixed rate mortgages and tsb will slash around 0.40% from selected five year fixed rate products . five year fixed rate products. hsbc is also expected to cut rates, though it hasn't yet provided details . the number of provided details. the number of crimes that go unsolved would be decreased under a plan by labour if it wins the next election. the party has set up a so—called charging commission, a task force responsible for coming up with reforms to increase the number of crimes solved . it's number of crimes solved. it's after the conservatives accused labour of being soft on crime . labour of being soft on crime. labour of being soft on crime. labour says more than 90% of crimes are going unsolved under the tories, with a record 2.4

million cases dropped due to evidential difficulties in the last year alone, the number of civil servants has risen to the highest level in half a century. but there's been a fall in the number of frontline delivery jobs. figures from the taxpayers alliance found some staff numbers are up 24, with most of the growth based in london. and that's despite several governments pledging to move in the civil service away from the caphal the civil service away from the capital. 87% of the increase is due to growth in the top three grades of seniority , with annual grades of seniority, with annual salaries . between 73,000 and salaries. between 73,000 and £200,000. the uk's sixth biggest water firms are facing legal action over claims they underreported pollution incidents and overcharged customers . the claims are being customers. the claims are being brought by professor carolyn roberts, an environmental and water consultant. the first claim will be brought on behalf of 8 million people against the severn trent water is estimated to be worth more than £330 million. water uk says the

accusations are entirely without merit and that 99% of sewage works are legally compliant . the works are legally compliant. the brazilian president described a new amazon dream as he unveiled a plan to protect the amazon rainforest. a meeting of the eight nations who share the rainforest resulted in a pledge to create an alliance to protect it from environmental destruction and organised crime. but the agreement falls short on a stated goal of ending deforestation, preserving the amazon rainforest is a key priority in the region's effort to combat climate change. you're with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by by saying play gb news. now it's back to martin and . emily okay , back to martin and. emily okay, well, welcome back to britain's newsroom. >> we've had so many emails flooding in particularly around

the civil service yes. >> yeah, we really have. this is the great idea from rob. if ever there was a deserved case for i to take over a complete industry, it's our civil service. i will do what gov.uk will order them to. i will have no personal views on policy and will be unable to hold up or reverse process. i like the idea of that robo civil service robo bureaucrats. >> well, you said you wanted robo mps because then they'd be neutral. >> i totally agree with that because think about it. you know how much gets in the way of being enacted if it's resisted internally and quietly by unelected bureaucrats in the civil service i think that's a great idea. >> i worry there may be some unintended consequences of having robots running the country, but us know what country, but let us know what you and of you have you think. and a lot of you have been getting in touch about lee anderson giving giving him your full his comments. anderson giving giving him your fulthere his comments. anderson giving giving him your fulthere you his comments. anderson giving giving him your fulthere you go.|is comments. anderson giving giving him your fulthere you go. anyway, ents. anderson giving giving him your fulthere you go. anyway, let's so there you go. anyway, let's move so there you go. anyway, let's moyeah. police service of >> yeah. the police service of northern has apologised northern ireland has apologised to civilian staff to officers and civilian staff after mistakenly after it mistakenly published the every serving

the data of every serving employee in a serious data breach. >> yes, the data breach reportedly involved names, ranks and other personal data of staff i >> -- >> let's get more on this now from gb news political correspondent olivia utley at westminster . olivia, this westminster. olivia, this beggars belief. it was an foi request put in to a bureaucrat who sent not only the numbers of officers, but all of their personal details. surely that personal details. surely that person is in a lot of hot water today. >> well, you would hope so. this is human error on an enormous scale. and of course, we know that police officers in northern ireland are under threat every single day. so the last thing they want is their personal data. and as you say, it's more than just their names being out there in the open . worryingly, there in the open. worryingly, this is the second huge data breach that we have seen reported today by the electoral commission has also just reported a data breach. they think that 40 million, up to 40

million names of vote payers in the uk have been hacked by they think possibly russian aggressors on their system. that data breach went unnoticed for 14 months. and although the electoral commission made clear that because the voting system in the uk is still done on paper ballots, there is very little risk of foreign actors risk of these foreign actors impersonating voters and voting on their behalf, etcetera. there is still quite a lot of risk attached with 40 million uk voters as names and addresses being available to russian hackers to enormous hacks in one day. and it shows the extent to which we are infrastructure for our legislative infrastructure is just so far behind technological advances. the committee, the government committee for the parliamentary committee for cyber attacks warns about this time and time again. but we don't seem to take it seriously enough . it seriously enough. >> and what political reaction has there been? you say that

there is this committee that presumably will meet urgently. has the prime minister or any other cabinet ministers had something to say about both of these massive breaches ? well, these massive breaches? well, dame caroline dinenage has said that she's the chair of the committee for cyber security and she said that this needs looking into straight away. >> she says it's frankly terrifying what's happened. and there are labour mps weighing in as well. we've had spokesmen from both labour and conservatives expressing their shock at what's happened and but that's as far as we've heard at the moment. and yet again it feels as though that these political reactions are sort of coming too little , too late. why coming too little, too late. why did it take 14 months for this electoral commission hack to be recognised and what's going to be done to stop it happening ' 7 m. again? >> thank you very much indeed, our political correspondent there, utley, live from there, olivia utley, live from westminster, us up to westminster, bringing us up to date on not one, but two massive breaches . breaches. >> astonishing, absolutely astonishing. well let's speak to

democratic unionist party mp jim shannon with more . shannon with more. >> jim, what is the political reaction been where you are ? reaction been where you are? >> i think it's quite astonishment . then let's just astonishment. then let's just say two things. first of all, this. this is a massive, massive data breach of officers and staff personal circumstances. i understand that the figures are clear. there's 10,799 data entries . that's 9276 police entries. that's 9276 police officers and staff. also includes intelligence officers, includes intelligence officers, includes those who work at ports and airports , surveillance units and airports, surveillance units , psni staff located at the m15 headquarters and outside hollywood, and also includes a firearms teams raid police, a tsg unit . firearms teams raid police, a tsg unit. this firearms teams raid police, a tsg unit . this is firearms teams raid police, a tsg unit. this is massive . tsg unit. this is massive. absolutely. no doubt about that. about what this means. every person's name from a constable to the chief constable to every inspector, every sergeant, everyone in between knows who

who service and admin . the who service and admin. the police across the whole of northern ireland. so this breaches is incredible. it probably poses a number of questions. it poses the first questions. it poses the first question how could such a breach happen? number one, is it a mistake? is it an innocent mistake? is it an innocent mistake? as such, that's the best way of putting it. and i put forward a suggestion to you that that may perhaps maybe illustrate exactly where the problems are . and is it a result problems are. and is it a result of poor supervision or lack of robust supervision as well as within the organisation, the psni itself? in other words, as so many handles , so many use, so many handles, so many use, this is a freedom of information. you process this, but nobody checks anybody to see that it's been done correctly . that it's been done correctly. is it possible , i suggest, is it is it possible, i suggest, is it possible that somebody working from home may have been tasked to do this , in which case the to do this, in which case the lack of supervision would be clear because they're not in the office? and maybe there's something and i'm only posing these as questions. i can't say

this is happened, but it this is what happened, but it does perhaps suggest to me some things could have went things that could have went wrong now, clear to me wrong. now, it's clear to me that whoever was tasked to do it, there should have been somebody overlooking that and ensuring that the there was ensuring that that the there was no mistakes made . this is a no mistakes made. this is a massive, massive mistake . this massive, massive mistake. this is a breach of the highest security and all my time that i can ever remember. and really, there needs to be steps taken within the psni, within the security forces to ensure that something like this can never happen. it never happened in a way, but to make sure that it doesn't happen again. >> jim there's never a good time for something like this to happen, but the terror alert in northern has recently happen, but the terror alert in northraised has recently happen, but the terror alert in northraised from has recently happen, but the terror alert in northraised from substantial to been raised from substantial to severe. relevant is that severe. how relevant is that and how of how divided are how kind of how divided are things in the country at the moment? and are they going into that environment? the timing must be terrible . must be terrible. >> yeah, no, absolutely . on the >> yeah, no, absolutely. on the very day that the data breach has been announced, the

republican terrorism had a bomb attack in west belfast , republican terrorism had a bomb attack in west belfast, an indication of clearly that there are people in northern ireland who are intent upon creating mayhem , death and destruction , mayhem, death and destruction, and who's who's main target that they have is against the psni. so this data breaches is unbelievable . every police unbelievable. every police officer and every staff member across the whole of northern ireland are now to look at their own personal safety. i know police officers honestly who don't tell anybody what their job is. their families know that they their young children, of course, but they know that their daddy works in the civil service that's all they know or their mother works in the civil service. so this this breach at a when there's a high level a time when there's a high level of threat from republican terrorists in northern ireland, is unbelievable and is very worrying for the family. what does that mean to everybody? do they they're onto their they they're looking onto their cars again. are they watching where to their where they go to do their shopping ? they're awareness

shopping? they're awareness levels will be at the highest they've ever been because of someone's mistake . someone's mistake. >> absolutely. these police officers and their families must be very concerned indeed. they're already doing a dangerous job of public service. and to have this on top of that is not what you want. and it's totally we'll have to see exactly what happened and find out who was responsible. thank you indeed, you very much indeed, jim shannon, democratic unionist shannon, a democratic unionist party there giving us his party mp. there giving us his thoughts , just absolutely thoughts, just absolutely beggars belief. >> it just utterly beggars belief that a simple admin error can put so many people in danger . what's going on with these people? >> well, thank goodness their addresses given out addresses weren't given out because could really have because that could really have led to. >> but there's enough data in this leak to be able to trace names to police stations, districts , and therefore it'd be districts, and therefore it'd be very easy to work out their beats. so, mean, it would have beats. so, i mean, it would have been with home been disastrous with home addresses. but this is all bar that and, you know, our best wishes go every wishes must go out to every officer serving there who officer serving out there who must a very worrying time. >>

? serving $— >> 10,000 serving police officers civilian staff. so officers and civilian staff. so thatis officers and civilian staff. so that is a huge number of people who be feeling rather who will be feeling rather worried. now. worried. right now. >> that's right. onto our >> yeah, that's right. onto our next the uk next story now because the uk and have struck a new and turkey have struck a new deal the surge in deal to address the surge in illegal migration, which will focus coordinated efforts to focus on coordinated efforts to disrupt supply chains and disrupt the supply chains and dismantle people smuggling gangs. before . gangs. we've heard that before. >> yes, have. the agreement >> yes, we have. the agreement will also new operations will also see a new operations centre set up in turkey by the country's national police, as well exchange of well as faster exchange of customs data and other intel evidence also. we hope so . evidence also. we hope so. >> let's speak now to former director general of the uk border force, tony smith with more. tony we gave turkey £3 million last year. we gave them 425 grand. the year before that, another £3 million. now, will it make any difference ? make any difference? >> well, i think we need to understand what's happening with international organised crime to be able to answer that question. and i'm afraid it's pretty clear that crime does pay . this is a that crime does pay. this is a hugely lucrative business for the smugglers. the supply chains go way back turkey and beyond

go way back to turkey and beyond . and i think it's really important actually, that we do discuss our operational responses with countries like turkey, which is at the nexus between europe and asia. and i think this is really about trying to disrupt the supply chains, particularly see lots of work going on to dismantling these dinghies, finding out what they're made of, where the engines come from. there is some intelligence, understand that intelligence, i understand that turkey is used as a turkey is being used as a transit hub, and we're actually, you know, quite good at the uk border force detections , believe border force detections, believe it we've got a we've got it or not. we've got a we've got our academy here. we've had our own academy here. we've had turkish officers my time turkish officers over in my time to train and, you know, putting a centre excellence in a centre of excellence in istanbul and sending officers over there to help disrupt these chains seems to to be a very chains seems to me to be a very sensible step right thing sensible step in the right thing to do. >> because, tony, one of the things that frustrates people so much know migrants much is that we know migrants are using these dinghies. can we not yet find some way of cutting them off at the source , banning them off at the source, banning them off at the source, banning the production of them ? is that

the production of them? is that something that could happen? is that something that this could operation with turkey might help with ? with? >> i think it will, yeah. i mean, i don't know if people know, but when the dinghies do come in now, they are literally dismantled by the border force, not by we have forensic not just by us. we have forensic officers trying to work out the chemical compounds used the chemical compounds used in the building them. the engines building of them. the engines are taken to bits and there is intelligence i'm privy intelligence which i'm not privy to that about, where they to all of that about, where they originate from. but clearly, turkey is a nexus point where we believe some of these dinghies may manufactured. they're may be manufactured. they're folded down, packed into boxes. so huge movements so these are huge movements across customs borders. but we're pretty good at being able to use intelligence to target these of movements . so these kind of movements. so i think is the thing to think this is the right thing to do. i think having a centre of excellence in turkey, having a member management standing member of management standing with to share with them, being able to share intelligence with those these are ministers are all things that ministers are all things that ministers are way for. and i are paving the way for. and i think exciting that think it's quite exciting that we to do that. and i do we are able to do that. and i do hope will make an impact on hope it will make an impact on at least terms of the at least in terms of the

distribution. and you know, the movement these vast movement of these these vast numbers into europe numbers of dinghies into europe and towards calais . and then up towards calais. >> okay, tony, i've been to dover i've seen these dover and i've seen these dinghies. of pvc dinghies. they're made of pvc sheeting. and two, before . so sheeting. and two, before. so they're easy to up . they're very easy to knock up. they're template they're made to template realistically by by targeting the production of these in turkey, in an era of globalism where you can order anything online, is it going to make any difference or is it just another case of playing whack a mole? and if we close it in turkey, they'll just go to another country. but we're not doing is actually the arrivals actually stopping the arrivals at dover. surely that's where we should focusing our efforts, should be focusing our efforts, not stopping the boats being built, stopping them arriving and yeah good point. and landing. yeah good point. >> i think you're absolutely right. that's what people want. that's what the prime minister wants stop the boats . but i wants to stop the boats. but i think this is part of a patchwork quilt, isn't it? of measures. this is one measure. we've a number of we've had a number of announcements which announcements this week, which you covering you guys have been covering coming the home office on coming out of the home office on various things that they are doing. but no single answer really best deal of all

really the best deal of all would be to come to a deal with the french. obviously to say, look, joint look, you know, let's have joint patrols, let's send everybody straight france. that's straight back to france. that's a country. but that a safe third country. but that requires an eu agreement and the eu prepared to requires an eu agreement and the eu that. prepared to requires an eu agreement and the eu that. so prepared to requires an eu agreement and the eu that. so what pared to agree that. so what the government doing trying government are doing is trying to work all around the issue, trying different, different mechanisms. this will not in itself a panacea, but it's itself be a panacea, but it's another in the right another step in the right direction. and i think that we've just got persevere with we've just got to persevere with this crucially, must this and crucially, we must get this and crucially, we must get this rwanda through the this rwanda decision through the courts. to start courts. we've got to start returning i think if we returning people. i think if we can that, will send a can do that, that will send a very serious deterrent to people sitting calais thinking sitting in calais thinking about paying sitting in calais thinking about paying a smuggler to come across here. >> thank you very much indeed, tony former director tony smith, the former director general border force, general at the uk border force, optimis think he was. >> yeah. fair play to him. he's optimistic. you know , glass half optimistic. you know, glass half full attitude. but, you know, i'm you know, mindful of i'm just, you know, mindful of the fact that these boats are made to templates they're just made to templates they're just made for one usage only. they're very basically constructed. they're easy to put together . they're easy to put together. and i just don't don't think we're going to solve this

problem by stopping their problem by by stopping their manufacture one country. it manufacture in one country. it would move door. would just move next door. >> international >> well, international cooperation great, but we cooperation is great, but we need deterrent. and the need a deterrent. and the government managing government are not managing to get but that is get that through. but that is due legal challenges. to be due to legal challenges. to be fair the government . but let fair to the government. but let us what think. what is us know what you think. what is the in your view? the solution in your view? but we will be moving on. what are we will be moving on. what are we talking about next? >> be talking the >> we'll be talking about the amount of unsold food crimes last that's last year, and that's burglaries, you're burglaries, record rates. you're with on gb news. >> oh, that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. with the gb news forecast a couple of days with drier and warmer weather compared with what we've. experienced over the last few weeks a ridge of high few weeks as a ridge of high pressure builds in, it is ahead of an area of low pressure which will move in for the weekend. so this settled spell isn't necessarily going to last particularly long, but at least for the rest of wednesday. for

many places, it's dry and bright out there. the best of the sunshine across central and eastern parts of the uk. pretty windy for the far north of scotland, especially shetland . scotland, especially shetland. but across western areas there will cloud floating will be some cloud floating about, mistiness around about, some mistiness around coasts as well as the humidity rises that humidity rises rises and as that humidity rises , will warmer. highs of , it will feel warmer. highs of 2425 celsius towards the south—east high teens, low 20s elsewhere and then a thickening of the cloud across western areas overnight and some low cloud creeping inland with some patches of fog, especially for southern counties of england. parts of mid and south wales. but for most it's a dry night. 1 or 2 showers possible towards the southwest , but otherwise the southwest, but otherwise it's a warmer night compared with recent nights 15 or 16 celsius in places by dawn. then we begin thursday with plenty of dry weather out there . again, dry weather out there. again, 1 or 2 showers possible for the likes of cornwall and perhaps west wales into northern ireland. thicker cloud towards the west and some patches of cloud elsewhere. but otherwise

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martin daubney and emily carver. >> yes, with me now, a staggering 213,278. that's 213,278 burglaries across england and wales were closed without a suspect being identified last year. that's what analysis from the liberal democrats shows. astonishing >> that accounts for almost 80% of all cases and works out as an average of a staggering 584 unsafe burglaries every single day . day. >> well, we're joined now by peter bleksley , former peter bleksley, former metropolitan police detective . metropolitan police detective. peter, i mean, where do we start with this? we had chief constable's only a couple of weeks ago saying that they will now investigate every single crime. that's because people were well , we have crime. that's because people were well, we have hundreds of crimes every day , of course, but crimes every day, of course, but they were simply going uninvestigated and having no result, no charge, no nothing . result, no charge, no nothing. >> yeah. you can't solve a crime that you don't investigate. and in recent years as the unpalatable fact is the kind of

moderate majority of the uk have been ignored when they've been victims of crime , whether that's victims of crime, whether that's having their phones stolen, their bike, stolen their house, burgled , their car stolen, and burgled, their car stolen, and many other crimes, they just get a number from the police when they ring up. but it you know, there is a is a sea change there is a there is a sea change now happening, what with the chief constable was what they said recently. their commitment to investigate every crime. sir mark rowley at the met in london a few weeks ago saying we will attend to every burglary . bit attend to every burglary. bit worried about that. he didn't say investigate. they said they'll attend every burglary. let's hope that doesn't turn out to be a box ticking exercise . to be a box ticking exercise. and let's hope the police are committed investigating the committed to investigating the crimes that we are most likely to be victims of and mean so much to us all. >> yeah, see, peter, that's what gets my go. and i think a lot of people out there this this low level crime, know, burglary level crime, you know, burglary isn't level crime. it's very isn't low level crime. it's very traumatic 30,000 muggings, traumatic. 30,000 muggings, unsolved last year as well.

that's not low level crime. it's upsetting. traumatic . nick. upsetting. it's traumatic. nick. and is this a case of there just aren't of coppers policing the streets. they're welded to their desks and they're policing tweets . tweets. >> it's a disconnect between the senior management police who senior management of police who have been who have become so highly educated in recent years. and got away from the rough and tumble of frontline policing as soon as possibly could. we soon as they possibly could. we now a complete elite kind now have a complete elite kind of cohort in senior policing who are very good at getting promoted but not very good at policing, and they have a disconnect from the crimes that matter to you, me and your audience. >> do you think they feel as if they're too good to do the rough and tumble of daily policing? what do you think it is? >> oh, yeah. i mean, i had a police officer, frontline police officer contact me a few weeks ago. they were having a real up and down or out the pavement, and down or out on the pavement, you with people rolling you know, with people rolling around all kinds around and all kinds of unpleasantness . an inspector unpleasantness. and an inspector turned join in. and turned up, did not join in. and when this inspector was confronted back at the police

station as why he merely station as to why he merely stood observed, he said , i'm stood and observed, he said, i'm paid supervise, not to fight. paid to supervise, not to fight. >> isn't that part of the problem? because we see arrest videos all the time where the police are simply failing to be, i would say, robust enough. are they of everyone's they scared of everyone's filming are they scared of filming it or are they scared of being called racist? if it's a bame person who's being arrested, for example, are they now scared of actually policing in case they get fired or there's an outrage about it? >> yeah, i think there's an element of the police being frightened of their own shadows. unfortunately which very unfortunately which is very deeply concerning . but on deeply concerning. but on regards to the whole filming matter, the police have been pretty slow on the uptake here. and this stems from the senior management, those heroic men and women on the front line are obeying the instructions that they up top. yeah, and they get from up top. yeah, and what's happened is there was a culture of don't film us, don't film us, don't film us. well, of course the police couldn't enforce that if members of the pubuc enforce that if members of the public were filming and public were filming them. and then, of a major crime then, of course, a major crime happens it's send your

happens and it's send us your footage. send your footage. footage. send us your footage. so can't have it both ways. so you can't have it both ways. and if senior management had been mature and kind of pretty pragmatic about it, been mature and kind of pretty pragmatic about it , they would pragmatic about it, they would have said to cops, we're going to get filmed. always be aware of that. but we're always going to want footage as well . so to want footage as well. so accept it as part and parcel of life and behave accordingly . life and behave accordingly. >> i think it is difficult for police officers and of course this is liberal democrat analysis of home office figures. so presumably want us to so presumably they want us to think the government's think this is the government's fault. police fault. others say it's police management's fault these management's fault that these burglaries going unsolved. burglaries are going unsolved. i imagine mixture of both. imagine it's a mixture of both. i the law is so i also think the law is so confusing police officers to confusing for police officers to enforce. it? enforce. isn't it? >> it's a question of priorities. and every time you come studio, just come into the studio, i just wish blokes like you in wish we had blokes like you in charge , blokes like the charge, blokes like you on the beat, common sense, beat, you know, common sense, old coppers. thanks for old school coppers. thanks for coming in. >> you very much indeed. >> thank you very much indeed. peter bleksley there, former metropolitan police detective, talking metropolitan police detective, talkir but metropolitan police detective, talkirbut before got yeah but before we've got lots more on the show. but more coming up on the show. but here's your news with here's your morning news with tatiana sanchez .

tatiana sanchez. >> emily, thank you and good morning . this is the latest from morning. this is the latest from the newsroom 41 migrants have died in a shipwreck off the italian island of lampedusa . italian island of lampedusa. local media reports say four people who survived the wreckage told rescuers that they were on a boat that had set off from tunisia and sank on its way to italy. it also said the boat that was carrying 45 people included three children . the included three children. the police service of northern ireland has apologised to its thousands of serving officers and civilian staff after a major data breach. a spreadsheet containing statistical information on the police force and its officers was mistakenly available online for around three hours before being taken down. assistant chief constable chris todd apologised for the breach but said it does not pose an immediate security risk to any staff or a surge in illegal people smuggling gangs is to be

tackled by a new deal struck between the uk and turkey. the turkish national police is to establish a so—called centre of excellence, which would speed up the process of returning turkish nationals who come to britain via illegal channels. nationals who come to britain via illegal channels . the uk's via illegal channels. the uk's sixth biggest water firms are facing legal action over claims they underreported pollution incidents and overcharged customers . the claims are being customers. the claims are being brought by professor carolyn roberts, an environmental and water consultant. water uk says the accusations are entirely without merit and that 99% of sewage works are legally compliant . it and several of compliant. it and several of britain's biggest lenders will cut their interest rates from today. nationwide is set to cut up to 0.55% off its fixed rate mortgages and tsb will slash around nought .40% from selected five year fixed rate products . five year fixed rate products. hsbc is also expected to cut rates, though it hasn't yet provided details . you can get

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news. the people's channel. britain's news . news. the people's channel. britain's news. channel >> welcome back. it's 1038. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with myself, martin daubney and emily cobb. yes >> now some of britain's biggest lenders are poised to make mortgage rate cuts from today. nationwide building society has announced reductions of up to nought .55 percentage points to its fixed mortgages . its fixed mortgages. >> well, here now with more analysis, gb news economics and business editor liam halligan

liam some small crumbs of comfort at long last for homeowners . homeowners. >> absolutely. i would say if you're looking to remortgage mortgage at the moment or if you're buying a house and looking to take out a mortgage, we say as long as you can because there's a growing sense that inflation is coming down and that means expectations of where interest rates are going to peak are coming down. and even though rates may go up next month, i think they probably will mortgage rates are coming down. how can that be right? well, let me try and explain . so well, let me try and explain. so i've got some numbers here that we can have a look at and radio listeners can bear with me. so we know that the bank of england's interest rate is currently 5.25% but it's set to peak. if you look at the money markets now, which the mortgage companies follow too, it's set to peak at 5.75, just a month ago, the market's thought that rates would peak at 6.75. a huge difference. now it's 5.75. why because inflation's come down

from 8.7% in may to 7.9% in june. and we get the july number next wednesday, which i think, by the way, will start with a six. >> that'd be great. >> that'd be great. >> you heard it here. >> you heard it here. >> first mistake, liam. >> first mistake, liam. >> all of that is pushing down where the markets think interest rates is going to go, which means it's pushing down what the mortgage companies the mortgage companies pay for the money, pushes down what money, which pushes down what they us for the they then charge us for the money. know the average money. now we know the average two fixed mortgage rate two year fixed mortgage rate across all loans to value across all durations. the average is 6.84. it's always quite a lot higher than the bank of england's base rate. of course, that's how the mortgage companies make their money. but nationwide two of the nationwide and tsb, two of the sort soft kind of lenders if sort of soft kind of lenders if you want former mutuals they have announced . just a 0.55% cut have announced. just a 0.55% cut to their standard variable rate as as of today and that's really, really significant because almost no one thinks that the bank of england isn't going to put interest rates up a bit more. but what those

mortgage companies are saying is that over a two year period, they think rates are going to be coming and coming coming down and coming down considerably over two considerably. so over that two year envelope, can cut year envelope, they can cut their overall rate. good news for i have so many questions for >> i have so many questions for you. martin. i know you. sorry, martin. i know you're in there you're about to jump in there have many questions. the bank have so many questions. the bank of england was saying that rates might for the next might not come down for the next two, years. that still two, three years. is that still the case? and is inflation dropping, as you say, because of the rate rises or is it something else? >> inflation is dropping for all kinds of reasons because of what we base effects. so this we call base effects. so this time year energy was time last year was energy was much expensive. we're much more expensive. we're about to energy price cap for to see the energy price cap for households come down. we're also seeing cheaper raw materials timber, steel, freight charges and so on. and the economy is finally having spluttered since lockdown ended, it's finally getting into gear and the supply side is starting to respond. look, the bank of england say a lot of things. they have to speak out of both sides of their mouth at the same time because

they're speaking to different audiences. governor of audiences. if the governor of the bank of england in that press conference week when press conference last week when they and they raised interest rates and said, what, the next said, you know what, the next move rates what move in rates is down, what would then be a big sell would happen then be a big sell off sterling. and off of sterling. okay and sterling that sterling sterling that cheaper sterling would mean more expensive would then mean more expensive imports, which would push up inflation. ian. so they can never say things explicitly. they have to just hint and bob and now, i've been very and weave. now, i've been very critical bank of england. critical of the bank of england. they far too slow to they were far too slow to realise that there was big inflation were inflation in there. they were far slow start raising far too slow to start raising rates in the first place. at the end of 2021, i now think they're far too slow to stop raising rates. they should stopped far too slow to stop raising rates. trates,1ould stopped far too slow to stop raising rates. trates, inrld stopped far too slow to stop raising rates. trates, in my stopped far too slow to stop raising rates. trates, in my sin)ped raising rates, in my view, in march . but that's how they march. but that's not how they think. think there be at think. i think there will be at least one more rate rise. but despite that, one more rate rise, the mortgage companies are now saying we see lower interest rates on the horizon, even if interest rates stay flat for a while. we see them coming down within year envelope. within that two year envelope. we're charge you we're going to charge you a little less your little bit less for your mortgage. so signs of some

competition and some pro—consumer moves in the mortgage market. it's about time i >> -- >> just half a% >> just half a% >> yeah, but you know, it's great news. liam halligan , thank great news. liam halligan, thank you so much forjoining us on britain's newsroom thanks britain's newsroom and thanks for some optimism for giving us some optimism because not a lot of because there's not a lot of that moment. yeah, that around at the moment. yeah, thank very much. thank you very much. >> isn't it? amongst the doom and gloom. let's see what and gloom. so let's see what you've saying at home. what you've been saying at home. what have have we been have we got? what have we been saying? well, the big question was anderson prime was lee anderson for prime minister, he was. your question? >> well, gave us a choice >> well, he gave us a choice comment telling people don't comment telling people who don't like stockholm like the bibby stockholm stockholm to bleep off back to france . and here's what david france. and here's what david said. done , well done. well said. well done, well done. well done. well done. lee anderson, i think david says, well done. he should the prime minister. should be the prime minister. i would have used the blackwood and put f word in front of and put the f word in front of that, but that's what the british public would have would have you say have said. but you can't say that on tv. whoops, i just did. janine said in a complaint, janina said, lee anderson is just saying what most of us are thinking using expletives shows a high level frustration . a high level of frustration. >> the the expletive,

>> the stronger the expletive, the stronger the feeling. yes, that's rule i live by. that's a rule i live by. >> great. okay well, now here to join us is emma webb and stephen pound and let's start with with that story, emma . so in the that story, emma. so in the times today , go back to france, times today, go back to france, bleep off, back to france. lee anderson defiant, saying he will not apologise. he >> well good on him for not apologising . i think he speaks apologising. i think he speaks on behalf of many people around the country who will be thinking that, you know, genuine asylum seekers are not going to complain about being put in good accommodate ation where we've seen reports , you know, they're seen reports, you know, they're being fed well there there are buddy systems for them to befriend locals football all sports even see fishing this accommodation is not subpar. sports even see fishing this accommodation is not subpar . and accommodation is not subpar. and lee was saying this in response to not asylum seekers but a legal migrate . saints who have legal migrate. saints who have entered this country illegally and who we are putting up at our own expense, who are refused going to go into perfectly

suitable accommodation. now many people around the country will be thinking , well, this is be thinking, well, this is obviously absolutely taking the mick and as always as lee is just expressing the sentiment of the masses. and now you might disagree that maybe he shouldn't have used bad language , but he's have used bad language, but he's he's expressing the frustration that millions are feeling around the country. >> yeah . is it the country. >> yeah. is it the the country. >> yeah . is it the migrants who >> yeah. is it the migrants who are moaning or is it is it the lawyers ? you know, they just lawyers? you know, they just want to sit on the front page of the cherry front page of the sun today, the first inmate guest call what you like on the bibby stockholm said, i it. stockholm said, i like it. >> so it seems that the people on there, they're shown on there, once they're shown around think it's around i mean i think it's better than any any of the ferries i used to take as a kid on my to france. stephen on my way to france. stephen pound, labour of pound, former labour mp, of course, about the use course, yeah. what about the use of language, though? i mean, okay, the country's frustrated. of language, though? i mean, okajcertainlylntry's frustrated. of language, though? i mean, okajcertainlylntfrustrated.ted. of language, though? i mean, okaj(aboutly|ntfrustrated.ted. of language, though? i mean, okaj(about as1t frustrated.ted. of language, though? i mean, okaj(about as subtle 'ated.ted. of language, though? i mean, okaj(about as subtle ased.ted. of language, though? i mean, okaj(about as subtle as a ted. of language, though? i mean, okaj(about as subtle as a brick he's about as subtle as a brick to the face. but is that the sort of that an mp should sort of lingo that an mp should be using? >> don't think it adds to any

>> i don't think it adds to any possibility of a solution to the problem. actually problem. i think it actually detracts because what it detracts from it because what it does actually divides people does is actually divides people very, also very, very strongly. i also think idea of using the old, think the idea of using the old, the crispy word means the old crispy duck word means that you actually normalise it. the old crispy duck word means that i ou actually normalise it. the old crispy duck word means that i thinktually normalise it. the old crispy duck word means that i think the .y normalise it. the old crispy duck word means that i think the problem ise it. the old crispy duck word means that i think the problem with:. and i think the problem with that it becomes more part of that is it becomes more part of everyday speech and it isn't. you emily talked it, everyday speech and it isn't. you know, emily talked it, everyday speech and it isn't. you know, representing it, everyday speech and it isn't. you know, representing the it, you know, representing the emotions that feel. emotions that people feel. i don't does if you keep don't think it does if you keep using like that. but the problem is most of these people, is that most of these people, they come through they may have come through france, they're from france, but they're not from france. i think what will france. and i think what will happen this absolutely happen is this will absolutely stir guardian readers. on stir up the guardian readers. on the hand, know, the the one hand, you know, and the knuckle draggers the other. knuckle draggers on the other. well, i'd like to see a little bit of objectivity. >> to say you're a >> it's not fair to say you're a knuckle dragger if object to knuckle dragger if you object to people here illegally. people coming here illegally. no, and in of the no, no. and in terms of the choice language, have you choice of language, have you ever actually, ever been to ashfield? actually, it's that word is every it's like that word is every other word. there's a lot of there's not saying that there's a lot of not saying that you metropolitan you are london metropolitan early, there's lot of early, but there's a lot of people saying, oh, this is outrageous language. >> it's absolutely the way, yeah, ordinary yeah, it's the way ordinary people i take do people talk. but i do take i do take your argument that it's not

particularly . particularly helpful. >> behalf >> well, speaking on behalf of the elite, in the metropolitan elite, which in hanwell i've ever been hanwell i've never ever been accused before, but i have accused of before, but i have been ashfield we used been to ashfield because we used to with a pit quite to be twinned with a pit quite close the miners close to that during the miners strike. used to take food up strike. we used to take food up there, which they didn't much like, you know, of the like, you know, the sort of the keen one, stuff that we took keen one, the stuff that we took them west london. but them up from west london. but you know, we got, i mean, i know what he's talking about, but i was surprised how much i was surprised to find how much i actually anderson actually liked lee anderson when i mean, i really i met him. i mean, i really didn't want to, but i think what's slightly slightly worries me what i didn't i me about this, what i didn't i mean, who that's annoying, stephen. >> you're honest, mate. >> least you're honest, mate. >> least you're honest, mate. >> i him, i thought the >> when i met him, i thought the bloke was a gentleman. it? bloke was a gentleman. is it? you know, apart his you know, apart from his language, bit language, which is a bit lower decks. but that's neither here nor there. okay stephen, let's move to a bit deck. move on to a bit lower deck. >> let's. >> let's. >> that's a phrase. i like >> that's a good phrase. i like that. crispy duck stephen that. and crispy duck stephen let's on to somebody else let's move on to somebody else who people swear who might make people swear a lot. included blair, the lot. me included tony blair, the tony institute being lot. me included tony blair, the tony rolled nstitute being lot. me included tony blair, the tony rolled by tute being lot. me included tony blair, the tony rolled by us; being lot. me included tony blair, the tony rolled by us techeing lot. me included tony blair, the tony rolled by us tech tycoon bank rolled by us tech tycoon billionaire be billionaire should we be concerned? well, no, mean, it concerned? well, no, i mean, it begs question, what does begs the question, what does a

prime minister do she or he prime minister do when she or he ceases be the prime minister? ceases to be the prime minister? >> i mean, can do >> i mean, you can you can do what edward did. i was in what edward heath did. i was in the house with edward heath. he spent day sitting there spent all day sitting there woman, know, just sort woman, you know, and just sort of much better in of moaning about much better in my know, you know, my day, you know, or, you know, you can fade away like some people or you can do, you can be like gordon brown, a prophet crying the wilderness. crying in the wilderness. yes. or try to something or you can try to do something good ellison has his good and larry ellison has his own in america and own foundation in america and his main thing is it's a bit like bill gates. he's made a huge of money. he's made huge pot of money. he's made most of his money actually bringing all health bringing together all the health care records in america, which were. >> but, stephen, it does make people know, the people think, you know, the billionaires and politicians like are all, you like tony records are all, you know, in cahoots to take over the world. mean, tony blair the world. i mean, tony blair would to president of would love to be president of the wouldn't he, emma? would love to be president of the isn't wouldn't he, emma? would love to be president of the isn't thatyuldn't he, emma? would love to be president of the isn't that aldn't he, emma? would love to be president of the isn't that a fair: he, emma? would love to be president of the isn't that a fair point? nma? >> isn't that a fair point? because i this, i see because when i see this, i see tony blair, who wants us all to have passports and to have covid passports and to be human barcodes tech human barcodes with a tech billionaire who's that tack billionaire who's got that tack and trying to his and blair's trying to get his claws into governments all around he was around the western world. he was on keir starmer on stage with keir starmer a couple of weeks ago. is this the

direction of travel? is blair being by people being bankrolled by the people whose wants to get into? whose tech he wants to get into? our smartphones? whose tech he wants to get into? ouri;martphones? whose tech he wants to get into? ouri havephones? whose tech he wants to get into? ouri have toynes? whose tech he wants to get into? ouri have to say,’ mean, >> i have to say, i mean, obviously his his foundation is obviously his his foundation is obviously up forward obviously set up to forward the ideas believes will make ideas that he believes will make the a better place. so the the world a better place. so the answer to question is yes. answer to that question is yes. obviously, thinks that this obviously, he thinks that this i presume he thinks that this technology beneficial. technology is beneficial. i think from my think anything from my perspective tony think anything from my perspcentralised tony think anything from my perspcentralised anythingtony think anything from my perspcentralised anything to y blair centralised anything to towards himself or even, to be honest , the centralisation of honest, the centralisation of health records. i recognise that that has certain benefits. but when you're talking about things like covid passports and using that to limit people's freedom, and also concerning. now and that's also concerning. now i know very much about i don't know very much about larry ellison as an individual or his work , but i do think that or his work, but i do think that there will be many people that look at what tony blair is doing. and as stephen was saying, you know, there are many former prime ministers who , you former prime ministers who, you know, they go on the speaker circuit, books and circuit, they write books and they leave public life. whereas tony blair is really, you know, his political career almost started after he left office.

not that obviously, he was very the money making , bit terribly the money making, bit terribly influential whilst he was prime minister but he but that wasn't that wasn't the end of his political career and he's done an awful since then that an awful lot since then that many and i don't many people, you and i don't really agree with. yes. >> and there's been a lot made of the fact that he's giving quite a lot of advice to a certain mr keir starmer. sorry, sir keir starmer, comrade. of course , sir stephen. let's move course, sir stephen. let's move on to some royal news as now. this is . this might be tragic. this is. this might be tragic. why am i getting this? he wants prince harry's title has been removed from the royal website . removed from the royal website. >> well, when i say when i first read this, i thought, why is he on hormone replacement therapy? because, you know, i mean, this is ihra hrt, hrh well, his is hrh ihra hrt, hrh well, his title has been removed . title has been removed. >> he's been on the oestrogen . >> he's been on the oestrogen. >> he's been on the oestrogen. >> that would explain a lot, actually . actually. >> they say hrt, it's written in front of me. >> no, no, you're absolutely correct. can i just. just.

sorry, just indulgence one minute. when i when i use the pejorative expression knuckle draggers, wasn't saying that draggers, i wasn't saying that everybody objects. draggers, i wasn't saying that every understand bjects. draggers, i wasn't saying that every understand that... draggers, i wasn't saying that every understand that. yeah, >> i understand that. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> talking about >> we're not talking about people the wilder fringes. people on the wilder fringes. yeah, but i'm not generalising there. i understand there. please. i understand that. but that. anyway, sorry, lee, but look, about this quite look, the thing about this quite clearly, royal family are clearly, the royal family are distancing themselves, but not nearly as prince nearly as quickly as prince harry and princess montecito are distancing themselves from the royal family. i think we're waving farewell to them. they're going to wind up this lonely, embittered you embittered figures, you know, like edward the eighth and like like edward the eighth and mrs. simpson. and they're going to lap of to be living in the lap of luxury. they're to have luxury. they're going to have all all the all the money, all the attention, friends, no attention, no friends, no respect hrt. gosh it respect and no hrt. gosh it bnngs respect and no hrt. gosh it brings a tear to my eye. >> so, is it time for the >> so, emma, is it time for the world's smallest violins for them? >> oh, well, i mean, it's a bit long overdue for the website to be really isn't be changed. really isn't it? because three years because it's been three years since they officially had those. those stripped from them. since they officially had those. tdon't stripped from them. since they officially had those. tdon't knowstripped from them. since they officially had those. tdon't know ifipped from them. since they officially had those. tdon't know if they've om them. i don't know if they've continued them. you'll continued to use them. you'll probably than probably know better than i will, whether they've will, emily, whether they've continued we've continued to profit, we've certainly continued profit.

continued to profit, we've centhey continued profit. continued to profit, we've centhey have?iued profit. continued to profit, we've centhey have? well, profit. continued to profit, we've centhey have? well, theyfit. continued to profit, we've centhey have? well, they were >> they have? well, they were using them for a long time. >> were using them for a >> they were using them for a long remember, they had long time. remember, they had their account it their instagram account where it was very royal and their was all very royal and their website, all very royal. website, it was all very royal. and it's all archie. and now it's all about archie. well, isn't it? >> and still referred. >> and they're still referred. they're still widely referred to as is. and really as the sussex is. and i really just the you know, just think that the you know, the should cut the royal family should have cut ties immediately ties with them immediately because the issue is, of course, that they haven't they haven't done haven't gone done an edward they haven't gone into quiet. into exile and kept quiet. they're have sort of they're trying to have a sort of semi political career while also being inextricably associated with regardless of with the titles, regardless of whether removed whether they've been removed or they've the film they've just bought the film film a book, which is film rights for a book, which is quite america, quite a bestseller in america, about a couple, the chap whose mother killed. mother is killed. >> it does make me sad. >> it does make me sad. >> it does make me sad. >> it does. i loved prince harry, not just because he's a fellow ginger , can i just say fellow ginger, can i just say something ? something? >> solidarity. >> solidarity. >> i was a ginger. >> emily i was a ginger. >> emily i was a ginger. >> i may have flesh coloured highlights now. >> eyebrows formally . >> eyebrows formally. >> eyebrows formally. >> now, before we get too much into. into your hair. into your hair and grooming routines. steven, fascinating is steven, as fascinating as it is

, we have a new , very quickly, we have a new deal with turkey on clamping down on immigration. will it make any difference? emma i mean, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. >> there are lots of things that we've thought were good for the baklava they haven't. what's baklava and they haven't. what's different is different about this deal is that government that the government have basically with basically done a deal with turkey is going to focus on turkey that is going to focus on what you could call the supply chains of the people smugglers. so the dinghies are so a lot of the dinghies are actually turkey, put on actually made in turkey, put on the of lorries and then the back of lorries and then taken france along with the taken to france along with the migrants as well. so not only do the migrants themselves often start in france start their journey in france because in turkey, because of the sorry, in turkey, because of the sorry, in turkey, because countries that because of the countries that it borders, also equipment borders, but also the equipment that the people smugglers are dependent on in order to traffic them the channel. so this them across the channel. so this is really trying go as close is really trying to go as close to the source as possibly is really trying to go as close to tigetource as possibly is really trying to go as close to tigetourcetos possibly is really trying to go as close to tigetourceto cooperate ibly is really trying to go as close to tigetourceto cooperate iny can get and to cooperate in intelligence , resources, intelligence, resources, personnel with the turkish to try and deal with this optimistic not really optimistic, no, they won't say how much it costs. >> no. and don't forget, 3 million robert jenrick refuses to put a price on it. so are we

yet again to going ask to fork out for fuel? >> yeah, i'm afraid we have to leave it there. emma webb, director of the common sense society, pound, director of the common sense society labour pound, director of the common sense societylabour mp. pound, director of the common sense societylabour mp. butound, director of the common sense society labour mp. but you're former labour mp. but you're coming back for another round. we a pop, then they we can have a pop, then they will back. we can have a pop, then they wiliyes. back. we can have a pop, then they wiliyes. in back. we can have a pop, then they wiliyes. in the z. we can have a pop, then they wiliyes. in the next few moments >> yes. in the next few moments we be joined by jacob we will be joined by jacob rees—mogg, to give rees—mogg, who's to going give his the civil his thoughts on the civil service where gb news, service and where gb news, britain's channel. britain's news channel. >> please don't go anywhere. >> please don't go anywhere. >> temperature's rising. >> the temperature's rising. boxt sponsors boxt solar power sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hi there . it's aidan mcgivern >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. with the gb news forecast, a couple of days with drier and warmer weather compared with what we've. experienced over the last few weeks as a ridge of high pressure builds in, it is ahead of an area of low pressure which will move for in the weekend. so this sets spell isn't necessarily going to last particularly long, but at least for the rest of wednesday, for many places it's dry and bright out there. best of the sunshine across central and eastern parts of the uk. pretty windy for the

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gb news top of the morning. >> it's 11 am. on wednesday, the 9th of august. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with myself, martin daubney and emily carver. >> is indeed major >> it is indeed so major questions about uk data protection morning

protection this morning following not one, but two mass massive leaks . more than 40 massive leaks. more than 40 million of us might have had our details stolen from the electoral commission and in a major blunder, the police service in northern ireland released details of thousands of officers and civilian staff heads must roll over that, surely. >> and next, all with the government strikes a deal with turkey to make it easier to return illegal migrants come return illegal migrants who come here small boats. apparently here on small boats. apparently it's about the countries it's all about the two countries sharing tackle sharing information to tackle the of problem . i think the root of the problem. i think we've that before. emily. yes >> work? and new figures >> will it work? and new figures have revealed that the number of civil earning six civil servants earning six figures more per year has figures or more per year has increased twofold over the last seven years. is it time? is it high time the government cut the number of civil servants? our very own jacob rees—mogg will join us very, very soon indeed to give his take. >> looking forward to that. okay we'd love to what you've we'd love to hear what you've got any of our topics got to say on any of our topics today. anderson prime today. lee anderson for prime minister, about that? minister, what about that? anything else .

anything else. >> yes , we will be talking about >> yes, we will be talking about lee anderson's fruity remarks below. >> decks of stephen pound said his language was some of you have been writing in to say, you know, lee anderson for prime minister. >> so there you go. >> so there you go. >> yeah. and the thing is, you know, it's really divided. people shouldn't using that people shouldn't be using that sort language or is it sort of fruity language or is it just simply speaking, mind? just simply speaking, his mind? we'd what you think we'd love to know what you think on or of our topics. on that or all of our topics. email us gbviews@gbnews.com but first, your morning news first, here's your morning news with sanchez . with tatiana sanchez. >> martin thank you very much and good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom. 41 migrants have died in a shipwreck off the italian island of lampedusa. local media reports say four people who survive the wreckage told rescuers that they were on a boat that had set off from tunisia and sank on its way to italy. it also said the boat that was carrying 45 people

included three children. the police service of northern ireland has apologised to its thousands of serving officers and civilian staff after a major data breach. a spreadsheet containing statistical information on the police force and its officers was mistakenly available online for around three hours before being taken down. the file contained personal information, including names , ranks, locations and names, ranks, locations and other identifying data , but it other identifying data, but it did not include addresses , phone did not include addresses, phone numbers or financial details . as numbers or financial details. as assistant chief constable chris todd apologised for the breach but said it does not pose an immediate security risk to any staff . a surge in illegal people staff. a surge in illegal people smuggling gangs is to be tackled by a new deal struck between the uk and turkey. it will see the turkish national police speed up the process of returning turkish nationals who come to britain via illegal channels. turkey's often used as a major hub for people smuggling gangs due to its geographic location, and

reports suggest many vessels used to cross the english channel originate there. immigration minister robert jenrick told gb news that the dealis jenrick told gb news that the deal is a win for both countries, but declined to say how much it will cost. >> this is mainly about the share of intelligence and information between our world leading police and security services and their law enforcement authorities so that if we find out something important that can be acted upon swiftly and vice versa, and also the sharing of latest technology and people so that at the critical border between turkey and bulgaria , we are and bulgaria, we are strengthening our relationship there as well as in the big towns and cities of turkey as well. so it's a win win for both countries . countries. >> the uk economy will see stuttering growth over the next two years amid pressure from higher interest rates and increased unemployment . the increased unemployment. the national institute of economic and social research says income inequality will grow along with

unemployment and levels of debt by next year. however there's some good news on the way. several of britain's biggest lenders will cut their interest rates today nationwide and is set to cut up to 0.55% off its fixed rate mortgages and tsb will slash around 0.40% from selected five year fixed rate products . hsbc is also expected products. hsbc is also expected to cut rates, though it hasn't yet provided details . the number yet provided details. the number of crimes that go unsolved would be decreased under a labour plan if it wins the next election, according to the party. it set up a so—called charging commission, a task force responsible for coming up with reforms to increase the number of crimes solved. that's after the conservatives accused labour of being soft on crime. labour says more than 90% of crimes are going unsolved under the tories, with a record 2.4 million cases dropped due to evidential difficulties in the last year alone , the number of civil alone, the number of civil

servants has risen to the highest level in half a century. but there's been a fall in the number of front line delivery jobs. figures from the taxpayers alliance found staff numbers are up 24, with growth mainly in london. that's despite several governments pledging to move the civil service away from the caphal civil service away from the capital. while 87% of the increase is due to growth in the top three grades of seniority , top three grades of seniority, with annual . top three grades of seniority, with annual. salaries top three grades of seniority, with annual . salaries between with annual. salaries between 73,000 and £200,000, the uk's sixth biggest water firms are facing legal action over claims they underreported pollution incidents and overcharged customers . the claims are being customers. the claims are being brought by professor carolyn roberts, an environmental and water consultant, the first claim will be brought on behalf of 8 million people against seven. trent water is estimated to be worth more than £330 million. water uk says the accusations are entirely without merit and that 99% of sewage works are legally compliant . and

works are legally compliant. and finally , the brazilian president finally, the brazilian president described a new amazon dream as he unveiled a plan to protect the amazon rain forest. a meeting of the eight nations who share the rainforest resulted in a pledge to create an alliance to protect it from environmental destruction and organised crime . but the agreement falls short on a stated goal of ending deforestation and preserving the amazon rainforest is a key priority in the region's effort to combat climate change. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to martin and . emily martin and. emily >> thank you for that update. tatiana our civil service headcountis tatiana our civil service headcount is on the rise with figures showing the sharpest increase in at least half a century. the number of those earning over 100 grand doubling i >> -- >> that's according to a taxpayers alliance , a report

taxpayers alliance, a report that says the increase is largely london centric . largely london centric. >> well, joining us now is gb news presenter, the legend, the mp, jacob rees—mogg . jacob, so mp, jacob rees—mogg. jacob, so you've seen these figures today? simply, i watering numbers , simply, i watering numbers, £100,000. the salaries have doubled. the annual salary bill has grown by 60% to now £17 billion per year. jacob, is it time to squash the blob . time to squash the blob. >> oh, very much so . when i was >> oh, very much so. when i was minister for government efficiency, working closely with steve barclay, who's now a health secretary, we had a plan to reduce the civil service by 91,000 to get it back to 20 1516 levels and if you have the pressure to reduce, then actually you do begin to bring things down. if you don't have that pressure, it just grows like topsy. and that's the problem at the moment. no one's trying to reduce it and therefore it just inexorably grows. and that's bad news for taxpayers . taxpayers. >> as i think when people

>> as jacob. i think when people put their tick, their cross in the conservatives box at the ballot , they assume that ballot, they assume that a conservative government will reduce the size of our civil service, reduce the size of whitehall, reduce public spending. how is a conservative government allowed this to happen ? it's a massive increase happen? it's a massive increase in just a few years . in just a few years. >> it is. and it's bad news. and conservatives have actually been very good in the past at reducing the civil service. mike heseltine did a fabulous job in 1979 when he became environment secretary and francis maude in the cabinet office under david cameron again was excellent at reducing the civil service. what it needs is ministers focussed on cutting the size of the blob and then it can really happen . and then it can really happen. and as i say, that's what i was doing under boris johnson's orders a year ago and we were beginning to see some reduction happen. and unfortunately that pressure has just been given up on. it's evaporated .

on. it's evaporated. >> jacob, you're a man with your eye over the whole brief of the civil service. in fact, you were going around putting notes on their desks, telling them to get back away from their cappuccinos and and get back and their pyjamas and get back into office. yes. in terms into the office. yes. in terms of the department thing. question where do you think the facts . facts can be trimmed. >> i think that's a good question . i think working from question. i think working from home inevitably increases the number because it is now clear that working from home is not as productive. now i say that whilst i'm at the moment broadcasting from my own constituency, i was just about to point that out. >> jacob so it there are occasions when working from home may be beneficial, so i'm not entirely against it, but that we are not getting the delivery of pubuc are not getting the delivery of public services that we need. >> if you deal with the land registry, for instance, or the probate department, you're not getting a decent service. and i think at least in part think that at least in part because people working from because of people working from home. where do you make the cuts? simply look

cuts? well, you simply look through the extra layers that you've got within the civil service you have in service that you don't have in business. you try and remove those and you try and focus on delivering services as and that means using more technology. dvl la interestingly, has done really well on that. so if you're applying for anything from dvla that doesn't require a human intervention is done in an automated way, the turnarounds are really very quick. so it's using technology , using ai, it's using technology, using ai, it's getting rid of middle management and having a leaner and fitter civil service. oddly, the one thing i wouldn't complain about is some of the rises in salaries. if we if we can get to a smaller civil service then having a better paid one is perfectly reasonable. well, unfortunately at the moment we're getting a better paid and bigger civil service, which is the worst of all worlds. >> yes, we have both. don't we? >> yes, we have both. don't we? >> yeah. i wonder if the expansion of the civil service,

a lot of people are saying it's because they were after boris and they were after dominic because they're after revenge . because they're after revenge. do you think, jacob, that the civil service has become politicised? we hear a lot about their stance on brexit, for example. we hear a lot about their stance then being pro borders, being open , refugees borders, being open, refugees welcome, and also pro net zero is part of the problem, not just the size and the wage bill, but the size and the wage bill, but the actual mind set. >> i think there's a lot in that and i think there's a lot in some of the constitutional changes that were made that has taken power away from elected people, from ministers and given it to the unelected, giving it to people all in arm's length bodies, which are not under direct ministerial control and have been some of the biggest areas of growth. and they run essentially independently of government and are not politically controlled by the government of the day and have their own views about things. i mean, look at natural england

and bodies like that that seem to run and engender entirely of their own . their own. >> excerpts of jacob reece mogg working from home in somerset, thank you very much for your input today on britain's newsroom. have a great day, sir. >> thank he'll be back on >> thank you. he'll be back on your screens this evening, believe. >> yeah, you first off. >> yeah, you first off. >> okay. on to our >> okay. moving on now to our next the police service next story. the police service of northern ireland has apologised officers apologised to officers and civilian after civilian staff after it mistakenly data mistakenly published the data of every serving employee in every single serving employee in a serious data breach. >> yes, the data breach reportedly involved names, ranks and other personal data of the staff. >> earlier we spoke to jim shannon, mp of the dup, about the northern ireland data breach. and let's hear what he had to say. >> this is a massive, massive data breach of officers and staff personal circumstances. i understand that the figures are clear. there's 10,799 data entries , every person's name entries, every person's name from a constable to the chief constable to every inspector, every sergeant, every one in between knows who, who service

and admin. the police across the whole of northern ireland on the very day that the data breach has been announced, the republican terrorism had a bomb attack in west belfast , republican terrorism had a bomb attack in west belfast, an indication of clearly that there are people in northern ireland who are intent upon creating mayhem , death and destruction mayhem, death and destruction and who's who's main target that they have is against the psni . they have is against the psni. >> right. that's what jim shannon had to say. so let's get some further analysis from executive editor at the belfast telegraph. john laverty. john there may there must be a thousand of police officers who are very worried indeed for their safety. how such a thing could happen . could happen. >> exactly 6700 police officers , actually, and lots of civilian staff as well. the word i've been hearing since last night is catastrophic. and this really is i've never known anything like this. certainly in the 22 years of the psni. nothing like this

has happened. how can people think, how can this happen? how can a junior member of staff give away so much information opfion give away so much information option to, you know , a simple option to, you know, a simple request for you know, how many constables are there in the in the psni? how many sergeants are there and end up with a spreadsheet with over 10,000 names on it , spreadsheet with over 10,000 names on it, initials, surname names on it, initials, surname names where they're based . it's names where they're based. it's quite remarkable . quite remarkable. >> yeah. john we've been talking a lot on the show this morning about incompetence in the civil service and you'd expect somebody here to be for the high jump. in terms the jump. but in terms of the political landscape at the moment in northern ireland, the terrorism only terrorism threat was only recently from substantial recently raised from substantial to . so, john, how bad is to severe. so, john, how bad is the timing on this leak ? the timing on this leak? >> well, again , i'll use that >> well, again, i'll use that word catastrophic . i mean, it's word catastrophic. i mean, it's only february since john caldwell was shot and nearly killed by dissident republicans

and the terror alert is severe at the moment. and this could not have come at a worse time. i mean, obviously , you're thinking mean, obviously, you're thinking of it rank and file officers. you're thinking about more almost more important. i don't mean to say more importantly, but police involved in surveillance, involved in undercover departments , their undercover departments, their names are out there now. i mean , it's remarkable. and people have to also understand that , have to also understand that, um, that, you know , there are um, that, you know, there are some policemen i know their children don't even know that they're police officers. they just say they're civil servants. there's people who live in council estates or policemen who live in council estates. their neighbours don't know they work for the police . so mean also . so for the police. so mean also. so a thing is, you know, people with unusual sounding names may be very irish names or even asian names, much more easily identifiable. so i mean it's rare mutational damage for the psni is immense here, john.

>> i think a lot of people will be wondering who was in receipt of this data. do we know that information . information. >> well, the data was was up on a freedom of information website for nearly three hours. and it's going to be important . for nearly three hours. and it's going to be important. i for nearly three hours. and it's going to be important . i mean, going to be important. i mean, the police, the psni , have said the police, the psni, have said they're trying to track down everybody who saw this. it's not to going be easy, but it's been on hundreds of whatsapp groups and you know, they're saying it's possibly a criminal offence to people to see this data. but the irony is the psni themselves have committed an offence by giving this data out in the first place. so that's one of the issues and sorry, so john, the issues and sorry, so john, the home addresses mercifully of people weren't leaked, but the stations they work at, the areas they work at were with that

information. >> is there enough there? do you think, for dangerous forces to be able to locate these officers if they wanted and cause them harm? is there enough to go on for them? is what i'm saying. >> hopefully not. i mean, we're talking obviously of dissident republicans, but we're also talking about organised organised crime groups as well who would be very interested to see who may be sort of surveilling them. so . it is very surveilling them. so. it is very worrying because i mean most police officers don't go online, they don't they don't they're not involved in twitter or facebook or anything like that. they're but, you know, with their process of elimination, quite a lot of can be quite a lot of them can be identified. and this is going to cost a fortune because cost the psni a fortune because there's compensation to going be had here. i mean, there's definitely something when definitely something before when people's email addresses were released and there was compensate an and the police, the police themselves are

something like 30 million below budget . this something like 30 million below budget. this could not something like 30 million below budget . this could not have something like 30 million below budget. this could not have come at a worse time . at a worse time. >> okay. john laverty , executive >> okay. john laverty, executive editor at the belfast telegraph , thank you for joining editor at the belfast telegraph , thank you forjoining us and , thank you for joining us and giving us your expert's insights into what's a very worrying situation. >> very worrying indeed. disastrous, up next, the disastrous, perhaps up next, the labour mp, khalid mahmood will be with to get be in the studio with to us get a reaction. we'll a reaction a reaction. we'll get a reaction from him. >> and with britain's

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>> welcome back. it's 1122. you're watching britain's newsroom on gb news with myself, martin daubney and emily carver. >> yes . so joining us in the >> yes. so joining us in the studio this morning is labour mp for birmingham, perry barr. khalid mahmood. so you are listening to what john laverty had to say. he's the executive editor of the belfast telegraph about this breach of security, of this breach of data. he says it's hard to overstate the enormity of this. >> absolutely devastating, particularly in a place like northern ireland where anybody working in the police service, whether civilian or active service, have to sort of try and keep as low as possibly they can. and the work that they do, obviously, they have to live in the community. the children have to go to local schools. their wives have to work, and other children have to work in the community well. and to be community as well. and to be exposed luckily exposed in this way. luckily the addresses , but addresses weren't exposed, but an organisation should have a data in relation to data controller in relation to this and they should be looking

at this properly and now at this properly and there now needs an action as to what needs to be an action as to what happened there and what went wrong. >> and kelly, the second data breach as well the breach as well today, the electoral commission, 40 million voters as data has been compromised, rumours may be compromised, rumours it may be russians spying on that russians who are spying on that data. how concerning to you as a member of parliament is it that there potentially foreign interference in our electoral system? >> extremely , extremely >> extremely, extremely concerning. we know that there have been like russia who have been actors like russia who have been actors like russia who have been actors like russia who have been interfering in the us and possibly the uk as well, and possibly in the uk as well, and possibly in the uk as well, and to have this breach over 18 months ago and not been really informed, i think needs to ask again questions why that happened. and i think, look , happened. and i think, look, we're all aware hugely of the cyber attacks that take place continuously , and particularly continuously, and particularly those organisations like the electoral commission, like the health service, other people who hold key information about the population are bound to be attacked on that. and what we need to do is ensure that doesn't happen. and we've been again, i think, caught sleeping

on the job and that's the problem. >> we a lot of trust. well >> we put a lot of trust. well we all do. we all have to put a lot of trust in these institutions in our civil service, in the electoral commission, in the police services. then it seems like services. and then it seems like our data is very fragile in terms of the security around it i >> -- >> and a lot of people will be thinking that technology is meant to make life easier. and yet here all the time yet here we are all the time being compromised. yeah, think yet here we are all the time bei|to compromised. yeah, think yet here we are all the time bei|to going omised. yeah, think yet here we are all the time bei|to going be sed. yeah, think yet here we are all the time bei|to going be aed. yeah, think yet here we are all the time bei|to going be a glimpse think yet here we are all the time bei|to going be a glimpse into nk it's to going be a glimpse into the future because, you know, more and more of our data now is being on smartphones being stored on smartphones and it vulnerable to cyber it makes it vulnerable to cyber attacks. on now, attacks. i want to move on now, to another topic we to kelly, another topic we talked today and that is talked about today and that is the conservative party has a new deal turkey, million deal with turkey, a £3 million deal deal with turkey, a £3 million deal, whether it was £3 million last year, to to stamp last year, to attempt to stamp out boats in out the production of boats in turkey, it be effective or turkey, will it be effective or another waste of money? >> little, too late? i think >> too little, too late? i think the that comes to mind the word that comes to mind again, this is now the conservative party trying to clutch trying to clutch at straws, trying to resolve that's resolve this issue. that's not going it's not going going to happen. it's not going to any real difference. how to make any real difference. how many boats are the turkish forces going to go and crack

down many are going down on how many boats are going to hidden and what's to to be hidden and what's going to come out? >> to g though, >> it's fair to say, though, that yvette who could that yvette cooper, who could be, you know, the home secretary, if prevailing winds 90, secretary, if prevailing winds go, of holding go, she's quite fond of holding up a sign that says refugees welcome. the labour welcome. so what will the labour party try and stem what is party do to try and stem what is becoming a huge electoral issue? >> well, first all, the >> well, look, first of all, the labour will make sure labour party will only make sure that are are that the people that are are supposed to be here legally are the people that should come through party has said that through the party has said that directly, and that's what we stand and that is the real stand by and that is the real issue that we'll be looking at. and we're not controlling that at the moment. the conservative government the home office at the moment. the conservative gov notnent the home office at the moment. the conservative gov not controllingie home office at the moment. the conservative gov not controlling that me office at the moment. the conservative gov not controlling that ate office at the moment. the conservative gov not controlling that at the ice moment. >> but a lot of people watching this programme will truly be scratch and scratch their heads and be thinking, you know, does labour take a tougher stance on illegal migration than the conservatives? because it seems that the labour party want to block all of the schemes that the government have come up with, whether it's the rwanda scheme anything else. it's scheme or anything else. it's hard see the labour party as hard to see the labour party as being stronger on borders than

the party, despite the conservative party, despite everything has gone wrong everything that has gone wrong so far. everything that has gone wrong so “this is complete fallacy. >> this is a complete fallacy. let this because the let me tell you this because the conservative party, ever since it's been particularly over the last years, haven't given last six years, haven't given any about the people any information about the people that's supposed to be here. we've got a backlog of over 65,000. and if you look at the current people that are coming through , possibly 80,000, you're through, possibly 80,000, you're going to you you put people on a barge for 500 and try to make a political policy out of that. what the real issue is, we want to know people would be to know how many people would be allowed stay if out of those allowed to stay if out of those 65,000 people that you already got they're processing got here, they're not processing it don't want to it because they don't want to tell people the real tell the people what the real figures that's what the figures are. that's what the problem of people be problem a lot of people will be heanng problem a lot of people will be hearing that saying faster hearing that and saying faster processing backlog will processing of the backlog will ostensibly more asylum processing of the backlog will ostensitbeing more asylum processing of the backlog will ostensitbeing granted asylum processing of the backlog will ostensitbeing granted permission seekers being granted permission to stay because the vast majority already get permission to stay. >> so a labour party policy you're spelling out here would mean people being granted mean more people being granted asylum that's what the >> but that's what the conservatives trying to conservatives are trying to hide and to do it and they don't want to do it under their watch because that's

why up paying for a why they ended up paying for a huge deportations. huge amount of deportations. >> block >> they haven't block deportations . deportations. >> they haven't done that leaving conservatives >> they haven't done that leaydone conservatives >> they haven't done that leaydone that. nservatives >> they haven't done that leaydone that. they've'es >> they haven't done that leaydone that. they've got not done that. they've got a huge amount at the huge amount of people at the moment the back list moment on the back list in hotels. that's you're having hotels. that's why you're having to that's their to find barges and that's their problem . problem. >> khalid that, does the >> khalid on that, does the labour a labour party believe in a deterrent ? deterrent? >> of course, the labour party wants to do the right thing about what's what. no, what sir keir starmer has said that he will enable the nca much more money to be able to do that. mrs. may came in, cut border mrs. may came in, cut the border force half . all the force by half. all the surveillance drones that used to be there have been cut off and taken trying taken off. now they're trying to put this is a put them back in. this is a failure. systemic failure of a conservative government who want to immigration but to talk tough on immigration but not i think of not deliver. i think a lot of people would agree that we voted to take back control in 2016. >> we haven't back >> we haven't taken back control. we've totally lost control. we've totally lost control i put it to you control. but i put it to you again, what would be the strong deterrent illegals coming to deterrent to illegals coming to this if policy this country if the policy you're offering actually is saying faster processing of asylum, would a net pull asylum, that would be a net pull factor because people say, factor because people would say,

well, of well, at the moment, 75% of people apply for asylum get people who apply for asylum get it uk. let's take our it in the uk. let's take our chancellor. come over and the key that we're looking at key thing that we're looking at is routes. key thing that we're looking at is that)utes. key thing that we're looking at is that means only people who >> that means only people who are come through will are allowed to come through will be to come we have be able to come through. we have in turkey in other places where they safe routes for they are to have safe routes for people to come through who are potentially real people potentially our real people seeking able to seeking asylum would be able to come through. >> sorry won't the boats, >> sorry won't stop the boats, though, you though, will it? because if you don't, because what we've got, you're get a boat still. >> what we got at the moment is a half billion deal with the french, which rishi has french, which rishi sunak has rushed months ago to put rushed a few months ago to put in that isn't working. and what we to do have proper we need to do is have proper cooperation french to cooperation with the french to be deal with that. but be able to deal with that. but we of our own people, we need more of our own people, border force, to be able to be there. okay, kelly, this another story jacob story you just overheard, jacob rees—mogg points rees—mogg there on his points about civil service. about the civil service. >> another thing that >> that's another thing that isn't working. billion isn't working. £17 billion a yeah isn't working. £17 billion a year, ballooning salary. year, 60% ballooning in salary. is squash the blob? is it time to squash the blob? it's time to get rid of the tories. >> simple as this. they've been there for 13 years and it's a bit rich them coming in now

bit rich from them coming in now and saying years. oh and saying after 13 years. oh well, the civil service, believe me, off with me, you started off with austerity. down austerity. you cut people down and see you can't manage and now you see you can't manage the so what the whole process. and so what are you trying to do now is to say, well, it's the civil say, oh, well, it's the civil service's fault, get a grip on it and be the ministers and be the minister. you want to the prime minister. you want to be with the party, want be with the labour party, want to size of the civil to reduce the size of the civil service. the labour party will have service that have an effective service that works delivers for works properly and delivers for the this is where the works properly and delivers for the party this is where the works properly and delivers for the party tsucceeded'e the works properly and delivers for the party tsucceeded anda tory party hasn't succeeded and what to do is what we want to do is ineffective. >> are you happy with the announcement are announcement today? there are now civil servants now more civil servants in britain than are members britain than there are members of the armed forces as well. >> armed forces must >> the armed forces must deliberately the deliberately cut by the conservatives. the lowest levels that moment, and that we have at the moment, and that's nothing to be proud of. but in terms of the civil service, of course, we want an adequate civil that adequate civil service that deals with the stuff. we don't want balloon service. we want the balloon service. we want the balloon service. we want people able to do want people to be able to do that properly. you've that properly. when you've had a government for years and at government for 13 years and at the of now they're trying the end of it now they're trying to say there is an issue that is a on them and not a blemish on them and not anybody else. well thank you

very much indeed. >> was whistle stop tour >> that was a whistle stop tour of different of all those different subjects. so much for your perspective. >> very robust cross examination taken very well. >> exactly. taken very well. >> thanky. taken very well. >> thank you. very well. thank you. >> all right. well, thank you very indeed. we're going to very much indeed. we're going to go morning news now with go to your morning news now with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> emily, thank you and good morning . this is the latest from morning. this is the latest from the newsroom . 41 migrants the newsroom. 41 migrants have died in a shipwreck off the island of the italian island of lampedusa . local media reports lampedusa. local media reports say four people who survived the wreckage told rescuers that they were on a boat that had set off from tunisia and sank on its way to italy. it also said the boat that was carrying 45 people included three children . and included three children. and some more breaking news. 11 people are feared to be dead due to a fire at a holiday for home disabled people in france . local disabled people in france. local authorities say they're almost certain of the deaths but are remaining cautious until the bodies are located. and we'll bnng bodies are located. and we'll bring you more on this story as

we get it . the police service of we get it. the police service of northern ireland has apologised to its thousands of serving officers and civilian staff after a major data breach. a spreadsheet containing statistical information on the police force and its officers was mistaken , only available was mistaken, only available onune was mistaken, only available online for around three hours before being taken down. assistant chief constable chris todd apologised for the breach but said it does not pose an immediate security risk to any staff . a surge in illegal people staff. a surge in illegal people smuggling gangs is to be tackled by a new deal struck between the uk and turkey. the turkish national police is to establish a so—called centre of excellence, which would speed up the process of returning turkish nationals who come to britain via illegal channels. nationals who come to britain via illegal channels . and the via illegal channels. and the uk's six biggest water firms are facing legal action over claims they underreported pollution incidents and overcharged customers . the claims are being customers. the claims are being brought by professor carolyn roberts, an environmental and

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people's. channel back . people's. channel back. >> it's coming up to 1139. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with emily cobb and myself. martin daubney now, we've had loads of emails in today on all the topics. what we've got there, we have so on civil servants, we were talking about civil service has about how the civil service has rapidly increased in numbers and also terms wages and salaries. >> lots of people on over £100,000 in our civil service, let me tell you, sue says that

civil service staff numbers should be reduced. wages should also be reduced they should also be reduced and they should get bonuses based on performance. i agree with performance. yes, i agree with that performance performance based pay would be nice. like in a lot of jobs. >> yeah . earlier on we had >> yeah. earlier on we had richard tice here, the leader of the reform party uk, and john says this martin and richard tice are right. boris johnson, don't hear that very often. >> read that out. >> he read that one out. >> he read that one out. >> you hear that very >> you don't hear that very often. johnson and dominic often. boris johnson and dominic cummings the cummings promised to cut the civil service down, and that's why civil service blob why the civil service blob ganged them and ganged up, persecuted them and got removed . got them removed. >> yes, remember that debate >> yes, i remember that debate very well. >> yeah, we do. bob and we've had loads of stuff coming through on immigration. the new deal turkey today, the deal with turkey today, the tories caroline tories have put up and caroline says, with those who say says, i agree with those who say the boat should be turned back to should literally to france. we should literally drag back to french drag the boats back to french shores . the migrants left the shores. the migrants left the french coast in the first place, so be returning them so would only be returning them there. a lot of people there. caroline, a lot of people agree , but you might get in agree, but you might get in trouble the french maritime trouble with the french maritime em lot. >> t— e just doesn't seem >> yeah, it just doesn't seem like that possible.

like that is possible. really, does it? >> the law of the sea as >> it's the law of the sea as well. stephen piping up. >> introduced you >> we haven't introduced you yet. there's wonderful yet. oh, there's the wonderful stephen pound. going to stephen pound. we are going to move our newspaper review move on to our newspaper review with of with stephen pound and of course, emma webb from the common gb common sense society and gb news% very much news% thank you very much indeed. got some rather indeed. so we've got some rather interesting stories to go through actually. now, this one on critics akin to white on gender critics akin to white supremacy . it's claims snp's supremacy. it's claims snp's mhairi black. what on earth is this about? >> god, it's all a bit fruity , >> god, it's all a bit fruity, isn't it, this morning? so this is, this is during edinburgh fringe. i presume she's giving some kind of comedy performance because it's harsh. i don't know . it wasn't very funny, but it clearly wasn't very funny. no. so she has she's compared gender critics and feminists to white supremacists . supremacists. >> remind us what gender critical gender critical means that you believe in biological sex, that you don't buy into the gender ideology of believing that, you know, in self—identify action. >> so in the scottish context,

obviously this has been hugely detrimental to the snp with their attempts to push through their attempts to push through the gender recognition act, which would allow it, which would make it easier for people to identify as another gender and then to go into women's spaces. so this has been a huge debate in the context of scottish politics. but what's so awful here, i think with what mary black has said , is that mary black has said, is that she's it was almost an attack on academic freedom because she was making the claim that those people who do put forward intellectual arguments for a gender critical perspective, expressing concerns about sex based rights that those people she compares to sort of the academics of old who would justify white supremacy with their racial science. so that seems to be the gist that she's getting at. but that would be an attack on people like dr. kathleen stock, who we know was hounded out of her university. so there lot of academics so there are a lot of academics who are doing research in this area who are concerned about sex

based who being based rights, who are being treated poorly. treated very poorly. >> you're from >> because, emma, you're from the society party. the common sense society party. help me make sense of this word salad. this is absolute nonsense. so if you want to protect women in their safe spaces , hospital wards, prisons, spaces, hospital wards, prisons, changing rooms, then you're almost hitler. is that what you're saying? >> it seems to be the gist of what she's saying. that seems to be what she's getting at. and she she basically said that anybody who disagrees with her is a decent person. and she is not a decent person. and she she she she then went on to say that people who disagree with her basically should keep their thoughts to themselves. yeah, she's trying to say that not just those who believe that you can't just wake up one day and change your gender and that women's rights need to be protected on a sex based, sex based rights. >> snp policy have been radicalised . she's saying that radicalised. she's saying that thatis radicalised. she's saying that that is a radical point of view and she it's not. >> i remember when mhairi black came into the house, she was the

youngest mp for a long, long time and everybody remembers her for she first for two things when she first came in. one was she was tweeting or xingu, whatever they call pictures of call it nowadays, pictures of herself chips herself with big plates of chips on terrace you can on the terrace saying you can take the girl out of paisley, but you take the second but you can't take the second thing. a really thing. she made a really brilliant speech, brilliant maiden speech, a superb maiden speech. but now she said leaving the she said she's leaving the commons of the toxic commons because of the toxic environment. to environment. well, i have to say she's toxicity by she's added to the toxicity by this of cancelling language this sort of cancelling language and don't think she actually and i don't think she actually does. debate any favours does. the big debate any favours whatsoever. commons whatsoever. the house of commons may place without may be a poorer place without mhairi but it'll probably mhairi black, but it'll probably be more peaceful. be a slightly bit more peaceful. >> also fair to as >> but it's also fair to say as well, emma, just like, i just well, emma, i just like, i just want to make sense of this, if we can. good luck, mate. but but her position, the snp position was, utterly rejected by the was, was utterly rejected by the pubuc was, was utterly rejected by the public came out that a public when it came out that a double rapist, a bloke who thinks he's a woman or maintained he was so he could get into a women's jail. the snp went along with that until there was a massive, massive public backlash . backlash. >> it brought down nicola sturgeon, which brought down sturgeon think

sturgeon and continues i think to seismic ripples through to send seismic ripples through the . the entire snp. >> keir starmer agrees with this, by the way. so let's talk about that. starmer agrees with the snp's nonsense on this. >> no, he doesn't. he he does. he does. i'm sorry. he said last week if a woman's got a penis or not. >> no, no . >> no, no. >> no, no. >> did he. >> did he. >> that was, that was ed davey. oh no. i'm sorry keir starmer said a woman is an adult female human. end of. >> hang on, hang on. >> hang on, hang on. >> he. he said that ? >> he. he said that? >> he. he said that? >> yes, he did say that. thank you. after much you. but after so much equivocation, after so many car you. but after so much equiviinterviews er so many car you. but after so much equiviinterviews wherenany car you. but after so much equiviinterviews where he iy car crash interviews where he started off by refusing to answer the bell, he's in the right isn't he? right place now, isn't he? something 99.9. right place now, isn't he? sorthatng 99.9. right place now, isn't he? sorthat was 99.9. right place now, isn't he? sorthat was ed 99.9. right place now, isn't he? sorthat was ed davey . >> that was ed davey. >> that was ed davey. >> do you remember nicola sturgeon when she was being asked questions about trans asked questions about this trans prisoner? she malfunctioned. prisoner? she she malfunctioned. it was like she was short circuiting. she didn't know to how answer question because, how answer the question because, as this word salad, as you say, this word salad, it's know. so it's all, you know. so nonsensical. keir starmer nonsensical. but keir starmer basically did the same thing , basically did the same thing, but drawn out over a long period of time. eventually he got to the after probably the right point after probably

having a lot. let's stop there. a lot of opinion polls. >> this woman thinks that, you know, arguments against trans rights akin to past rights are akin to past generations claimed ethnic generations who claimed ethnic groups . so, yes, groups were inferior. so, yes, that's her very measured view. and we have reported it to you. so anyway, let's move on. uk's wonkiest pub what's all this about? >> stephen yeah, well, this is, this is a truly weird and bizarre story though. any of us who've been chair of a planning in the borough of ealing in the london borough of ealing and there's a and i think there's probably a few have been will few of us have been will recognise what we the recognise that what we call the firestone syndrome, when it used to be a huge tire on the a4, which was the firestone, and it was listed on the was going to be listed on the monday, burnt down on the monday, but it burnt down on the saturday, days before. and saturday, two days before. and similarly, there's a pub called the plough, incidentally. oh, no, complete coincidence. but i tell what. so what's tell you what. so what's happened have happened here? some people have bought this pub, this is this wonky pub that's sort of sloping bought this pub, this is this wonky at ub that's sort of sloping bought this pub, this is this wonky at one 1at's sort of sloping bought this pub, this is this wonkjat one end sort of sloping bought this pub, this is this wonkjat one end and of sloping bought this pub, this is this wonkjat one end and it'ssloping bought this pub, this is this wonkjat one end and it's ioping bought this pub, this is this wonkjat one end and it's i think down at one end and it's i think it's sort of sinking the it's sort of sinking in the stern. but what's happened here is that it got listed, it is that it got listed, but it burnt but what is burnt down before. but what is truly and bizarre about truly weird and bizarre about this, firstly, there was a band

supposed to be playing that on the the the following saturday, and the band were called gasoline and matches. is a pub? matches. so this is a pub? >> that's what's left of >> yeah, that's what's left of it. that's what's of it. that's what's left of it. >> what's happened is the >> but so what's happened is the local council in derbyshire has said to have to said you're going to have to rebuild the who rebuild it. but the people who bought the pub stripped out bought the pub had stripped out all all the pipes, all the pumps, all the pipes, all the pumps, all the pipes, all the pumps, all the pipes, all the cellaring. it's quite all the cellaring. so it's quite obvious they didn't want to obvious that they didn't want to reopen it as pub and the reopen it as a pub and the intimation although intimation there, although we don't the intimation, don't know the intimation, is this may have an act of arson. >> well, it may have been because they bought pub because they bought this pub that all wonky and suddenly that was all wonky and suddenly it vanishes. but they now own the and the land and the site and presumably they rebuild presumably they will rebuild something wonky and something which isn't wonky and they a of money. they can make a bunch of money. >> it's a local landmark >> it's a it's a local landmark as well. and what's so sad is that they've said they, the mayor midlands, andy mayor of the west midlands, andy street, calling for to street, is calling for them to rebuild brick brick. but rebuild it brick by brick. but of it's difficult to see of course, it's difficult to see how that's going happen with how that's going to happen with the rules building. the planning rules building. i can't that it's legal can't imagine that it's legal for a i'm sorry, for you to build a i'm sorry, building regs negate building regs will negate that straight can't i'm sorry. you >> you can't i'm sorry. you can't have that leaning tower of pisa. no, no, no, no way. you

can't. >> yeah, yeah, that's it. >> yeah, yeah, that's it. >> straight. do we have some breaking you? breaking news for you? >> they've rebuilt the leaning tower news. so tower of breaking news. so members the union at members of the unite union at gatwick take gatwick airport are to take eight industrial action, eight days of industrial action, including over the august bank houday including over the august bank holiday weekend . holiday weekend. >> okay, well, stephen, let's go to you. a man, no doubt, who politically is very supportive of unions, a cynically timed piece of action, devastating, a big getaway weekend from from the union there . i mean, this is the union there. i mean, this is going to be absolute bedlam and chaos for travellers , one of the chaos for travellers, one of the busiest times of the year. what's your feeling on this? >> i mean, you're absolutely right. i do support trade unions. i think the workers, you know, a right to organise know, have a right to organise and think great many social and i think a great many social benefits have come from trade union activity. however, this looks a really, looks to me like a really, really brutal attempt to try to force a situation instead force a situation when instead of of of negotiating, instead of debating, when i was, debating, i mean, when i was, you leading my union, we you know, leading my union, we only on a local basis, admittedly, we negotiated, we talked. didn't come up with talked. we didn't come up with these ridiculous threats. to these ridiculous threats. and to do this way, i'm sorry, do it this way, i'm sorry,

you're people . and you're antagonising people. and you're antagonising people. and you what we want to get is you know, what we want to get is sympathy. rather have sympathy. i'd much rather have the the the german system where the unions management the unions and management and the politicians together and politicians work together and they successful they have a very successful industrial base. we seem to be industrial base. we seem to be in a world permanent in a world of permanent antagonism here aggression. antagonism here and aggression. and this is so painful. and i think this is so painful. obviously, baggage handlers obviously, the baggage handlers at actually want at gatwick don't actually want to out. this is a threat. to come out. this is a threat. and think management and i think that management will pick this. i really hope pick up on this. i really hope that can, in the time that we can, in the time honoured phase, round the honoured phase, get round the flipping table. >> emma a eight days. >> emma a eight days. >> that quite a prolonged >> that is quite a prolonged strike because when strike actually, because when it comes the it's usually comes to the nhs it's usually a couple of and rail couple of days and others rail strikes of days here strikes a couple of days here and there, eight whole that and there, eight whole days that will lot of people will impact a lot of people coming from summer coming back from their summer holidays off for holidays or going off for a summer holiday. >> i agree with stephen. think >> i agree with stephen. i think it's spiteful as well to do it at at this particular time because if they're just making the threat, they're going to cause all sorts of doubts of people who are planning to go on holiday. do they cancel their holiday? have already, holiday? people have already, you facing travel you know, been facing travel chaos here at home. um,

chaos anyway here at home. um, i think a lot of people will be unsure as to what they're supposed to do, whether they should, you know, keep their houday should, you know, keep their holiday try to change holiday booking, try to change it, what they should, what should so i think should they do. and so i think making like this, making threats like this, frankly , particularly with the frankly, particularly with the august weekend , is august bank holiday weekend, is just spiteful and not just a bit spiteful and it's not going the public on side going to get the public on side if they're aiming to do. >> and there's a lot of people that be very, very that will be very, very unsympathetic. now, know, unsympathetic. now, you know, bnng unsympathetic. now, you know, bring the armed forces. bring in the armed forces. i say, you know, like last time they better of border they did a better job of border force anyway. they did better force anyway. they did a better job. think the job. and i just think the public. i'm with you, stephen, they lose the public mind they will lose the public mind set at this. it's deliberately and specifically, cynically aimed at a huge volume weekend. >> would lee anderson say? >> what would lee anderson say? >> what would lee anderson say? >> can't well, we'll >> i can't say. well, we'll probably find out. >> you know, likes to >> you know, he he likes to speak out on these types of things. he doesn't hear from that. let's move on to another rather, i must say it is a bit of a bizarre story. i mean, you'll have to explain this one to museum under fire queer to museum under fire for queer ring, its collection . what on ring, its collection. what on earth does that mean? >> it's really quite extraordinary. so this is the

mary rose museum. the ship , mary rose museum. so the ship, the curators of the mary rose museum have been criticised because they tried to queer the history of the ship . so how they history of the ship. so how they and this is a quote from from the telegraph that that according to the museum's website, they aim to quote, use queerness as an interpreter of tool. so objects like a mirror they've associated with trans identity because you look in the mirror and you're not the person that you think you are. hair combs have been associated with , you know, male grooming, which i think if you're i imagine that if you were a gay man looking at this, you would think this is actually a little bit offensive stereotyping here, it's stereotyping here, that it's probably they probably a nit comb. they actually that the blog. actually state that in the blog. this found on the this comb that they found on the ship they've made it ship and they've made it associated about homosexual men. and trying to do associated about homosexual men. arthey're trying to do associated about homosexual men. arthey're trying trying to do associated about homosexual men. arthey're trying to trying to do associated about homosexual men. arthey're trying to reachig to do associated about homosexual men. arthey're trying to reach said do is they're trying to reach said queerness into the history of this ship. this is what they do in a lot of other situations in other museums. and actually, the

british museum also announced announced an event this month sorry , it was during pride month sorry, it was during pride month earlier this year celebrating queer animals. so there's this kind of push to try and interpret progressive causes or progressive angles into literally everything. does this clearly doesn't does this appeal to the lgbt community? well, and i'd be embarrassed if i was gay. giraffe but there is a novelist who is who is a gamer. philip has spoken out against this. oh, really? >> what is what is really awful about this is they say, oh, they must be combs there. because otherwise, know, because it otherwise, you know, because it would look, the was would be men. look, the idea was when nelson collar, when we were the nelson collar, which to actually keep which was there to actually keep your rig your pigtail off your rig because, you know, the collar in the uniform, because the royal navy uniform, because that was because sailors used to have and they used to have pigtails and they used to sit other's sit there patting each other's pigtails. was nothing pigtails. there was nothing unusual about that. >> perfectly, you think >> it was perfectly, you think all this sort of nonsense all of this sort of nonsense helps make people helps or does it make people actually entrenched? actually more entrenched? because on the mary

because no doubt on the mary rose that there may have been a bit of, you know, hello, sailor going all right. going on. all right. >> know, sorry, what you no >> you know, sorry, what you no doubt matter? doubt that matter? >> that probably did >> no doubt. that probably did happen know lot of lads happen. you know a lot of lads together a long time. but it together for a long time. but it but say a mirror is akin to but to say a mirror is akin to transgenderism is utter , utter nonsense. >> officially, their artifice really creating a narrative , an really creating a narrative, an historical narrative that even if it was the case that of the hundreds of people on that ship, there were a few people who, as you were saying, hello, sailor. but, you know, they might be an actual history there, but instead they're concocting this fake narrative and they're also doing it with historical figures. this figures. so also in this telegraph article, they mention , they mentioned that lord alfred tennyson has been listed amongst lgbt historical figures, even though there's no evidence of him being homosexual. you know what? >> let's have a bit of balance here. a of here. let's have a bit of balance and say, you know, balance here and say, you know, why not? why not interpret? you know, things doesn't exist. queer lens because it's a historical that's why not. well,

there you go. emma makes a very strong point there and let us know what you think. >> it's not accurate. >> it's not accurate. >> it's not accurate. >> it it's not accurate, but i believe that is all we've got time for on britain's newsroom today. thank you very much to emma webb. thank very much. emma webb. thank you very much. to and you, to stephen pound and to you, martin. it's a very martin. yes, it's been a very nice partnership. >> i you've brought some >> i think you've brought some much to this much needed class to this this conversation thank conversation because. thank you. i any. i'm i'm lee anderson. >> he's a bit lower deck, isn't he? >> yeah , that's it from us today. >> up next, it's the live desk with tom harwood and pip tomson. and they're now to tell us and they're here now to tell us all it. so what's on the all about it. so what's on the menu guys? well we're menu today, guys? well we're exploring two enormous data breaches, the details of breaches, both the details of police in northern breaches, both the details of police with in northern breaches, both the details of police with the! northern breaches, both the details of police with the psnihern breaches, both the details of police with the psni data ireland with the psni data breach, but also the 50 million brits whose details have been stolen from the electoral commission >> on and on a completely different note, we're asking for your help to help find a baby pelican. that's gone missing from blackpool zoo . it was from blackpool zoo. it was trying to escape some seagulls andifs trying to escape some seagulls and it's got blown away by a gust of wind. we'll tell you all

about it. and there's so much more to come. the live desk on gb news. it is looking much better out there today. here's your forecast . your latest forecast. >> rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. got a couple of days with drier and warmer weather compared with what we've experienced over the last weeks as a ridge of last few weeks as a ridge of high pressure builds in, it is ahead of an area of low pressure which will move in for the weekend. so this settled spell isn't necessarily going to last particularly long, but at least for the rest of wednesday, for many places, it's dry and bright out there. the best of the sunshine across central and eastern the uk . pretty eastern parts of the uk. pretty windy the far north of windy for the far north of scotland, especially shetland . scotland, especially shetland. but across western areas there will some cloud floating will be some cloud floating about, some mistiness around coasts as well. as the humidity rises and humidity rises and as that humidity rises, it will feel warmer. highs of 2425 celsius towards

the south—east high teens, low 20s elsewhere and then a thickening of the cloud across western areas overnight and some low cloud creeping inland with some patches of fog, especially for southern counties of england, parts of mid and south wales. but for most it's a dry night. 1 or 2 showers possible towards the southwest, but otherwise it's a warmer night compared with recent nights. 15 or 16 celsius in places by dawn. then we begin thursday with plenty of dry weather out there. again, 1 or 2 showers possible for the likes of cornwall and perhaps west wales into northern ireland. thicker cloud towards the west and some patches of cloud elsewhere. but otherwise it's largely dry and bright and it's largely dry and bright and it's increasingly warm. temperatures reaching 27 to 28, possibly 29 celsius . possibly 29 celsius. >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar power proud sponsors of weather on .

gb news. >> good afternoon and welcome to the live desk with me, pip tomson and me tom harwood . tomson and me tom harwood. >> two huge data breaches to report this lunchtime . there are report this lunchtime. there are fears for the safety of every police officer in northern ireland after a major data breach in which their personal details were mistakenly put onune details were mistakenly put online in. >> and the electoral commission has apologised after the details of millions of voters in the uk

were exposed in a cyber attack on the electoral register. and we're in henley on thames, where one of six water companies in the uk is being accused of failing to admit how much sewage is going into rivers like this . is going into rivers like this. plus, the campaign to rebuild britain's wonkiest pub brick by brick. the 18th century crooked house pub was a landmark boozer in the west midlands, but this is what it looks like now after it was destroyed in a mystery fire and then demolished. it's left people drunk with grief . left people drunk with grief. all that to come. first, your headunes all that to come. first, your headlines with tatiana de . pip.

headlines with tatiana de. pip. >> thank you and good afternoon.