but crucially, should >> but crucially, what we should do it legal for us to do now, is it legal for us to start turning the boats back? >> i'm going to have a look at the into this. the law into this. >> also look at some >> also having a look at some of the shocking that the shocking takes that we've been well. been seeing as well. >> should diane now >> should diane abbott now retire from public life after an absolutely tweet in absolutely disgraceful tweet in response to the death of some migrants the mediterranean? migrants in the mediterranean? >> lee anderson. >> and of course, lee anderson. >> and of course, lee anderson. >> yesterday we saw >> but yesterday we saw something else going on total full frontal lawlessness is feral youths run amok on a high street in london. >> what is going on here? >> what is going on here? >> why don't they have any respect or fear for the police? >> and what the heck their >> and what the heck are their parents doing? >> for you as well. >> one more for you as well. >> one more for you as well. >> going be talking >> we're going to be talking about >> we're going to be talking abo if you are pensioner , then >> if you are a pensioner, then could bad news for your could it be bad news for your state pension ? state pension? >> the pension pot we are spending more on that than we are on. educate pension, defence and police combined . and the police combined. >> apparently. should rich people not get the state pension patrick christys on . gb news

one? >> absolutely massive story in town today. >> 100,000 channel migrants have now arrived in britain. like i've said, i'm going to be going through that piece by piece and also asking the question how many of them have gone missing? >> views gbnews.com >> gb views gbnews.com headlines now . how. >> now. >> good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm rhiannon jones in the newsroom. the police service of northern ireland says dissident republicans claim to be in possession of officers. details following a data leak. chief constable simon byrne says he's deeply sorry for the industrial scale breach . he says the scale breach. he says the service is working hard to stop third parties from attempting to intimidate, corrupt or cause harm to serving officers . harm to serving officers. earlier he attended a behind the doors meeting with a policing board, the police service of northern ireland mistakenly shared details of 10,000 members of staff on tuesday day.

hundreds of officers have said they fear for their safety . they fear for their safety. 100,000 migrants have now crossed the channel. that's since records began in 2018. the landmark figure was reached as another 11 dinghies at least carrying around 550 people were intercepted today . the arrivals intercepted today. the arrivals are the first since saturday as bad weather has made the channel largely impassable. in a statement , the home office said statement, the home office said the unacceptable number of people making these dangerous crossings is placing an unpressed presented strain on our asylum system. shadow financial secretary james murray told us the government must take action. what people want to see, though, is real solutions lens to tackling this problem . to tackling this problem. >> and that's why we've said that we would go after the people smugglers, the criminal gangs who are bringing people over place to make over in the first place to make sure we cut that off at sure that we cut that off at source. what we really need is that solution alongside that kind of solution alongside tackling backlog the tackling the backlog in the asylum and immigration system,

which is out of control, which we know is out of control, which we know is out of control, which we know is out of control, which we know is causing the government to use expensive hotels other hotels and barges and other forms of accommodation. we need that plan to get on top of the situation because frankly, we, the conservatives, presided the conservatives, have presided over on this over 13 years of failure on this and they've created this chaos which now needs to be fixed. >> meanwhile, gb news can confirm that authorities have recovered unmanned border recovered an unmanned border force drone from the english channel based out of lydd airport in kent. it had been monitoring channel migrants when it a technical failure it suffered a technical failure and plunged into the water. the number of people waiting to start routine hospital treatment in england has reached a new record high. nhs england found 7.6 million people were waiting to start treatment at the end of june. that's the highest number since records began in two thousand and seven. cutting, waiting lists is another of rishi sunak key priority kpis for 2023. shadow health secretary wes streeting says the government hasn't done enough to help improve the situation.

>> there's no doubt that the strikes we're seeing in the nhs are seeing huge numbers of appointments cancelled, operate actions delayed. >> this is disruption that doctors don't want and patients can't afford and that's why it's unforgivable that the prime minister is completely absent, failing to show any leadership whatsoever over the most important thing rishi sunak could be doing right now is to get doctors around the table and negotiate an end to these strikes . strikes. >> street chain wilko has >> high street chain wilko has collapsed past the company's appointed administrators after failing to secure a rescue deal putting around 12,000 jobs at risk . the chain's been unable to risk. the chain's been unable to find emergency investment to save its 400 stores across the uk. its chief executive says the retailer was left with no choice but to enter into administer station. shoppers in west london say they're disappointed . covid say they're disappointed. covid i hate the way all the high

streets have collapsed and degraded, but this is such a lovely shop and the people who work here are nice and it's full of really normal, old fashioned, practical stuff that people need because everybody is closing down. >> i think the world has gone crazy , to be honest, since crazy, to be honest, since i really had. >> no, but what can we do? >> no, but what can we do? >> there's so many things closing down nowadays . we just closing down nowadays. we just have to take it as it comes . have to take it as it comes. >> the home secretary says anyone who took part in suspected looting on london's oxford street yesterday must be hunted down and locked up. nine people were arrested as police wielding batons clashed with dozens of youngsters. it followed posts on tiktok , followed posts on tiktok, encouraging people to steal from a well known sports store . some a well known sports store. some outlets shut their doors as crowds gathered and officers issued 34 dispersal orders . issued 34 dispersal orders. suella braverman likened it to lawlessness seen in american cities and elsewhere. wildfires in hawaii have killed at least

36 people and forced thousands more to evacuate. the blaze has devastated much of the resort city of lahaina with the island of maui forcing people to jump into the ocean to escape the smoke and flames. entire neighbourhoods have been burnt to the ground as winds from a hurricane fan. the flames as this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . patrick back to. patrick >> welcome along . today britain >> welcome along. today britain has welcomed its 100,000th channel migrants >> fantastic, isn't it? should we just take a little look at how we greeted our 100,000th arrival today .

arrival today. yes well, today has gone from bad to worse for rishi sunak gb news. sources tell us this a multi—million pound border force drone has crashed into the channel and quite possibly sunk. >> and if you listen closely , >> and if you listen closely, you can hear the sound of diane abbot's staff begging her not to tweet something about that incident. >> but a border force vessel broke down its border farce at this point, isn't it? >> it is. carry on channel migrants. we have welcomed the world into britain . world into britain. >> there was a time when almost 2% of the entire male population of albania was on their way. what happened next was hundreds of young males mysteriously disappeared from migrant hotels. >> we will add that to the list of around 12,000 albanian criminal suspects who breached their bail conditions and of course, this is now culminating in those poor victims of human trafficking , paying human trafficking, paying human traffickers around two and a half ahead to smuggle them

half grand ahead to smuggle them back britain . i am back out of britain. i am surprised haven't have surprised that we haven't have had hundreds of thousands more signatures don't kill signatures to our don't kill cash campaign from elements of the criminal albanian community. >> have to start taking the criminal albanian community. >> transferse to start taking the criminal albanian community. >> transfers for» start taking the criminal albanian community. >> transfers for allart taking the criminal albanian community. >> transfers for all the aking bank transfers for all the cocaine they're dealing. if we move to full blown online banking. thousands banking. we have thousands of people india , a country we people from india, a country we have a bumper deal with have a bumper trade deal with that's largest economy that's the fifth largest economy in and where it is in the world and where it is incredibly easy legally incredibly easy to legally immigrate from . we've immigrate to britain from. we've got claiming from got people claiming to be from sri lanka, vietnam, tunisia, chad pakistan, that chad, pakistan, and that is before we've started on places like afghanistan and somalia . like afghanistan and somalia. we've convicted we've welcomed in convicted violent offenders, rapists and drug dealers , some of whom have drug dealers, some of whom have actually gone on to commit those crimes well, crimes in britain as well, which shouldn't it shouldn't be a shock, should it really ? really? >> we are possibly a terrorist away from the full set, although no doubt that may well just be a matter housed matter of time. we've housed them spare in them in people's spare rooms, in hotels, military bases, on hotels, in military bases, on barges , and in brand new purpose barges, and in brand new purpose built flats. how many built luxury flats. how many have deported ? anyone? just have we deported? anyone? just a handful , have we deported? anyone? just a handful, apparently. just a handful, apparently. just a

handful . we've had ideas like handful. we've had ideas like a giant wave machine in the channel giant wave machine in the channel, the ascension islands, offshore processing, rwanda . offshore processing, rwanda. turn the boats back, pay the french, pay the eu pay the turks pay- french, pay the eu pay the turks pay. rwanda pay more foreign aid, pay for hotels . pay for aid, pay for hotels. pay for barges, pay to renovate military bases. pay for border bases. pay for more border force. that's you paying for all of that by the way. >> but what have we actually had from our politicians? >> got one group of people >> we've got one group of people who were too late to act now who were too late to act and now want to do stuff but can't. we've got another group of people who don't want to do anything and are blocking anybody else from doing anything. the first group of politicians claim to care about britain badly let it britain but have badly let it down. the second group of politicians actually politicians didn't actually like britain with , but the britain to begin with, but the sad is no political party sad fact is no political party cares about britain enough to actually protect it. today may well be a landmark. 100,000 channel migrants arrivals this day will come and go, but we will be dealing with the knock on consequences of the channel migrant crisis for the rest of our lives .

our lives. >> gbviews@gbnews.com >> gbviews@gbnews.com >> throughout the course of the show, we'll be unpacking all the different ramifications of the absolute farce that has been going on in channel for the going on in our channel for the last years , not least how last few years, not least how many of them absconded and many of them have absconded and what some of the possible solutions are, including very shortly, actually shortly, whether it is actually legal the boats back. legal to turn the boats back. but gb home security editor but gb news home security editor mark white us now. and, mark white joins us now. and, mark, has been a bad mark, it has been quite a bad day the channel, least day in the channel, not least because number because of the number of arrivals, issue arrivals, but also an issue involving you know, involving a drone. you know, i mean, an incredible day, of course , it's because of this course, it's because of this milestone that was reached. >> it was reached very early this morning with the first of these small boats that came across and very soon after, we got an indication that actually this was going to be a bumper day for arrivals . and indeed, so day for arrivals. and indeed, so far , according to our producer , far, according to our producer, 11 small boats have crossed the engush 11 small boats have crossed the english channel with about 550 people to add to that tally. so

now quite a bit over 100,000 at and during the day. well, astonishing scenes because as these boats were coming over, one of the border force vessels volunteer a catamaran that normally zips from one boat to the other, picks the occupants up and takes them to dover harbour , where it broke down harbour, where it broke down lifeboats had to be called to in act as those rendezvous pick up migrant taxis, as some people are called them. but they picked up the migrants and taken them back. and while they were doing that , there was an incident that that, there was an incident that unfolded off dungeness in which a migrant boat got into trouble. a number of people were in the water for lifeboat boats attended that they pulled a few people from the water. they were then taken to dover harbour as well. and then on that drone ,

well. and then on that drone, that border force drone you were talking about operating from from lydd airport in kent, one of a number of aerial assets s that the border force and coastguard have to monitor from the sky. those coming across so they know where to put their assets that developed some kind of technical problem and ditched in the sea the very latest as i understand that authorities have now recovered that drone and it will obviously be taken away for examination , whether it's still examination, whether it's still operational again or whether it's just, you know, completely defunct as a sort of an operational drone. again we don't know. but yeah, an astonishing day on top of just the milestone of 100,000 who have crossed since 2018. >> absolutely . and just before i >> absolutely. and just before i go to my next guest and we're going to have a conversation about whether it is legal to turn boats back and what that situation would look like, it is quite difficult to get hold of

accurate data when comes to accurate data when it comes to how channel migrants we how many channel migrants we have deported. have actually deported. >> isn't it ? >> isn't it? >> isn't it? >> don't think it's very >> yeah, i don't think it's very many, to be honest . when we get many, to be honest. when we get reports out from the home office about the people that they've returned , it tends to be the returned, it tends to be the foreign criminals. so you hear about a thousand or more albanian who have been returned. will these are the vast majority of them are albanians who have beenin of them are albanians who have been in jail here, who served their sentence and then who've been deported back to albania. the fact is, the vast majority of the 100,000 people who've come across in small boats since 2018 have not yet had a decision on their asylum claims. they are stuck in the system . they are in stuck in the system. they are in the hundreds of hotels right across the country. some of them are going on the bibby barge, others are going into wethersfield and eventually perhaps to scampton. if the government ever gets out past

the courts . so yes , not many the courts. so yes, not many have been sent back. the government say it's our aspiration. of course , to have aspiration. of course, to have those who are coming across the channel from now on declare it illegal immigrants. they passed the law , but they need a third the law, but they need a third country to send them to. if they can't send them to their own country and that third country at is rwanda. at the moment is rwanda. it's rwanda or bust for the government . they bet the house government. they bet the house on it. so they need rwanda, which is currently stuck in the courts to go in their favour. >> mark, thank you very much. >> mark, thank you very much. >> mark, thank you very much. >> mark white there, our home insecurity editor, who will be a very man today. this insecurity editor, who will be a very throws an today. this insecurity editor, who will be a very throws uptoday. this insecurity editor, who will be a very throws up soay. this insecurity editor, who will be a very throws up so many this topic throws up so many questions. one of them questions. okay and one of them is, actually illegal for is, is it actually illegal for us to turn the boats back? to discuss this, i'm joined now by richard tice, who is the leader of reform uk. richard, thank you very much . in of reform uk. richard, thank you very much. in your of reform uk. richard, thank you very much . in your view, of reform uk. richard, thank you very much. in your view, is it illegal to turn boats back ? illegal to turn boats back? >> no, completely the opposite , actually. >> patrick, good afternoon . it >> patrick, good afternoon. it is perfectly legal to turn the

boats back under a series of different clauses of different international treaties . and i international treaties. and i would remind everybody that , of would remind everybody that, of course, one great nation, australia , did back in 2013, australia, did back in 2013, they did exactly that. they pushed the boats back . they had pushed the boats back. they had a frankly, a relatively small illegal migrant crisis compared to that which we've got. they pushed the boats back. yes, all the usual international institutions were a bit grumpy and upset and they got a bit of grief from the lefty lawyers. >> but they did it. >> but they did it. >> they sent a clear message . >> they sent a clear message. and guess what, patrick? the problem has basically gone away . we can use a couple of key international treaties. >> first of all, there is the 1974 safe of life at sea treaty. >> and we can use that. and the second key one is the 1982 united nations convention of law at sea. what you need, though ,

at sea. what you need, though, is you need a combination of two things. patrick first, you need bold leadership from the people who run the country . and who run the country. and secondly, they need alongside them bold lawyers that will stiffen the sinews of those leaders. that's what australia had. they did it. we can do it. what we haven't got here is bold leadership . leadership. >> well, you talk about bold leadership. there is the uncomfortable reality , richard. uncomfortable reality, richard. i think that if we did turn boats back then it is reasonable to suggest that people would drown in the channel. >> no, hang on. let's be very clear. let's be very clear. patrick, in our policy that i've repeated many, many times rather than push back, what we actually do is pick up safely, put into the border force cutters, hope they've got enough diesel or fuelin they've got enough diesel or fuel in the engine so they don't break down like this morning. and then you take them back to dunkirk and you take them back to calais and you safely discharge them, which we're

entitled to do under those international treaties that i refer to. that is perfectly refer to. so that is perfectly safe. after that's what we safe. after all, that's what we do the moment. we pick them do at the moment. we pick them up the boats. we just up out of the boats. we just happen the happen to bring them to the united opposed to united kingdom as opposed to take to the safe take them back to the safe country left, country that they left, called france . country that they left, called fra|and believe then that the >> and you believe then that the french would have to take them ? french would have to take them? >> french have to take >> yeah, the french have to take them international law and them under international law and if they dispute that, they can take us to the international courts . that would take many, courts. that would take many, many, many months, by many, many, many months, by which the whole game is up which time the whole game is up and over within 2 to 3 weeks, as everybody in france realises all of the illegal migrants who are planning to come over, they all realise there's no point wasting your money because you're going to be returned to exactly the shore that you just departed. and the key point and here's the other key point about this would about leadership. this would show, in my view , european and show, in my view, european and global leadership, because this issue is not just happening on the english channel, as many people know, it's happening on the mediterranean. and tragically , hundreds if not

tragically, hundreds if not thousands of people , even just thousands of people, even just this year, have died on the med. and the same thing needs to happen on the met. you need to have equivalent of border have the equivalent of border force people up, taking force picking people up, taking them back to north africa every single one. all of a sudden this all goes away. but it requires leadership. and tragically, across the whole of europe, there's none of that . there's none of that. >> as you're concerned >> so as far as you're concerned , the key argument it would , the key argument that it would be illegal to turn boats back or tow them back to france is rubbish. >> and the other argument, which is a moral one, which people raise, which is that , well, if raise, which is that, well, if you did that, then people would die . that is also rubbish. and die. that is also rubbish. and so it just becomes question so it just becomes a question singularly political will in singularly of political will in your view, and it's the kind and compassionate thing to do to words that we hear our words that we hear from our lovely friends left, the lovely friends on the left, the kind and compassionate thing to do, patrick, is to stop people dying and as i've just stated, hundreds of people are dying in the med already. >> tragically, this year. it's a miracle more people haven't died

on the english channel. in fact, the reason they haven't is, i suspect, because of the incredible efforts and determination of border force and the rnli for whom we should essentially thank for their good work. but the way to stop all this is to pick up and take back as opposed to pick up and bring to the uk. it'sjust as opposed to pick up and bring to the uk. it's just a as opposed to pick up and bring to the uk. it'sjust a simple to the uk. it's just a simple change of the compass. that's all. >> okay, richard, thank you very, very much. great to have you right at the start of the show there. richard tice is the leader of reform uk. i mean, could it seriously be as well, fear of the french and fear of the ramification is that is stopping turning those stopping us from turning those boats them boats back and towing them back there many watching this there? many people watching this now the now might argue that given the amount we amount of money that we are paying amount of money that we are paying have tried to do paying them, we have tried to do our stop that from our best to stop that from happening. you get loads happening. but you can get loads more story on our more on this story on our website, it's the website, gbnews.com. it's the fastest national site in website, gbnews.com. it's the fastcountry. national site in website, gbnews.com. it's the fastcountry. see1ational site in website, gbnews.com. it's the fastcountry. see all)nal site in website, gbnews.com. it's the fastcountry. see all the site in website, gbnews.com. it's the fastcountry. see all the bestin the country. see all the best analysis, big opinion of analysis, big opinion and of course, latest course, all of the latest breaking news as get it. now, breaking news as we get it. now, nine people were arrested during clashes in oxford street

yesterday . suella braverman says yesterday. suella braverman says that we can't let this sort of lawlessness be seen in the united kingdom and frankly, have it being imported from the united states as well . but have united states as well. but have young people in this country we already just lost respect for law and order. they knew the police were there. they knew that the media would be there. they knew that they would probably in some way shape or form, face a prosecution . and form, face a prosecution. and yet they still did it. >> they still did it. >> they still did it. >> why? and i want to know as well, where are the parents? patrick christys on gb

news. >> the people's channel, britain's news . >> the people's channel, britain's news. channel >> the people's channel, britain's news . channel well >> the people's channel, britain's news. channel well , in britain's news. channel well, in just a few moments time, i'll be having a look at the feral youths that are frankly terrorising high streets and shops. >> the latest incident happened yesterday in london on oxford street, where a tiktok trend saw hundreds of people flooding to stores. despite the fact and this is the crucial bit that they knew that there was a small army of police officers there and they knew there and they knew that there was a lot of media attention. they just don't anymore, do just don't care anymore, do they? also do their parents. they? and also do their parents. i suspect that may well be i suspect that that may well be part of the problem. we will also have lots more on today's big more than 100,000 big news that more than 100,000 channel migrants have now arrived in the uk kind of on this controversial mp diane abbott reached a new low yesterday with a shocking tweet about the death of migrants off the coast of italy . abbott

the coast of italy. abbott quickly deleted the tweet, but i mean, it's been widely condemned andifs mean, it's been widely condemned and it's been seen by basically everybody. currently everybody. she is currently sitting as an independent mp after she was suspended by labourin after she was suspended by labour in april for comments about jewish, irish and traveller people. so there we go. i'm joined now by former labour mp stephen pound . labour mp stephen pound. stephen, we obviously can't flash up the tweet that diane abbott said because he's got some swearing in it, but it was in relation to lee anderson saying that if off channel migrants don't really like it here or don't like the bars, then should go somewhere then they should go somewhere else. abbott, in else. and then diane abbott, in response people dying in the response to people dying in the med, course. well, they did med, of course. well, they did indeed go somewhere else. but to the sea, should the bottom of the sea, should she politics? she retire from politics? >> she certainly should . i >> well, she certainly should. i mean, and she's mean, she is 70 now and she's sitting as an independent mp, so she can't actually be a labour mp at the next election. i think she's for she's delighted us for long enough , but there certain enough, but there are certain things she's done were things that she's done that were quite it's best quite remarkable, but it's best to leave while she still has some dignity look, with some dignity left. look, with one tweet, although albeit it

was withdrawn fairly quickly. she's actually ceded the moral ground completely . yeah, she's ground completely. yeah, she's actually taken all the heat off lee anderson. she's actually dived gutter she's dived into the gutter and she's actually made the for those actually made the case for those people who have actually been excusing lee anderson's language and anyone who actually opposed lee anderson has now said, well, hang on a second. you know , hang on a second. you know, what's done? she's what's diane abbott done? she's as i said, she's done a lot in the past. think that the past. i really think that you know, a paid, well you know, a well paid, well remunerated , gentle retirement remunerated, gentle retirement beckons and should not for long beckons and should not for long be resisted on her part. >> the thing is , it's very easy >> the thing is, it's very easy to tell what people actually think because they say it or in her it or write it her case, tweet it or write it in a newspaper column. and then they retract and saying they retract it and saying either sorry , that was a draft either sorry, that was a draft as it was indeed about the and i'm hateful i'm quoting now, hateful anti—semitic remarks which have been levelled at jews by her. this is according to reports using that turn of phrase, of course, and indeed what she said now migrants drowning now about some migrants drowning in the mediterranean . does it in the mediterranean. does it

expose unfortunate lee, for the labour party? does it expose the fact that potentially there are still elements of that kind of thought within it? >> well , i thought within it? >> well, i think there's an element of that kind of thought in all sorts of parties. and the labour party had than most labour party had more than most without shadow of a doubt. without a shadow of a doubt. but i what you will about i mean, say what you will about keir starmer. he is absolutely rooted out. the fact that rooted it out. the fact that when diane and still when diane abbott and i still find to find it almost impossible to actually utter these words when she said that jewish she actually said that jewish experience anti—semitism experience of anti—semitism was akin to redheads , when she akin to redheads, when she actually comes out with stuff like that, you think, you know, are actually the are we actually in the same party? well, fortunately, we're not party anymore. not in the same party anymore. i'm in the labour party. but look, in all honesty, we have a problem. i don't deny it. it'd be stupid to pretend otherwise . be stupid to pretend otherwise. i dean be stupid to pretend otherwise. i dealt with it. i think we've dealt with it. i think rooted it out. but think we've rooted it out. but the about twitter the thing about the twitter and i saying that the thing about the twitter and i know saying that the thing about the twitter and i know about saying that the thing about the twitter and i know about the,ng that the thing about the twitter and i know about the, you that the thing about the twitter and i know about the, you know, at you know about the, you know, a lies halfway around the world before truth has its before the truth has got its boots on. and in this particular case, whether this boots on. and in this particular casea3am1. whether this boots on. and in this particular casea3am1. i whether this boots on. and in this particular casea3am1. i mean, rhether this boots on. and in this particular casea3am1. i mean, itzther this boots on. and in this particular casea3am1. i mean, it sounds s boots on. and in this particular casea3am1. i mean, it sounds to was a3am1. i mean, it sounds to me 3:00 in the morning at me like a 3:00 in the morning at chuck of tweet of

chuck it out type of tweet of which plenty. she which there are plenty. she retracted quickly, but it's retracted it quickly, but it's out and will be out out there and it will be out there. even though is, there. and even though she is, as quite say, as you quite rightly say, patrick, although she is not a labour the people in labour mp, 99% of the people in this country will labour mp this country will say. labour mp diane said something this country will say. labour mp diane stupidlyaid something this country will say. labour mp diane stupidly offensive1ing profoundly stupidly offensive yet that's the problem yet again. that's the problem for labour party, but for us in the labour party, but also a problem also say it's a problem for those who actually care about democracy, politics democracy, care about politics and language of politics. >> but i do also think it points to something else, which is that there is a relatively solid cohort mps light of the cohort of mps in light of the fact we've just welcomed fact that we've just welcomed our channel migrant our 100,000th channel migrant who clearly believe who i think clearly do believe that every single person, whether it's coming across on a boat on the med or across the channel boat on the med or across the channel, a genuine asylum channel, is a genuine asylum seeker genuinely fleeing war and persecution and therefore has to be loved and i'm concerned about that because that's not true. and that is affecting policy. and that is affecting policy. and opposition to policy . and opposition to policy. >> naivety is not the property of the labour party alone. no, it's a fairly widespread vice. look you don't see labour mps glueing themselves to the m25, you don't see labour mps

standing down at portland bill, you waving goodie bags and you know, waving goodie bags and saying, come on, but saying, come on, sure, but without a doubt, patrick and you know, more than most, know, you know more than most, without a doubt our without a doubt that our elements within the labour party who every who actually feel that every single sets foot in single person who sets foot in this country should in the this country should be in the same we before same situation as we were before 1903 was 1903 when there was no immigration law whatsoever in this and are some this country. and there are some people every people who think that every single person here is single person who comes here is entitled to remain here forever, be a 19 year old car wash be they a 19 year old car wash attendant from the south balkans, or a genuine case of a christian from manipur in in north eastern india is at fear of their life. i think we need to be a little bit more discriminatory about this and a little emotional, little less little emotional, a little less incontinent, mind incontinent, if you don't mind me saying so. >> fair enough, stephen, >> no, fair enough, stephen, just to just to summarise what you said, what said right at you said, what you said right at the there, which is you the top there, which is that you do diane abbott has do think that diane abbott has has us enough with her has pledged us enough with her company now someone should company now and someone should put around her and say, put an arm around her and say, diane, enough's enough. then >> in the old days the >> well, in the old days the conservatives used to do this rather they'd usher you

rather well. they'd usher you into with pearl into the library with a pearl handled a glass of handled revolver and a glass of scotch and expect you not to come out. we tend not to do that in the labour party. we're a little more sophisticated, a little more sophisticated, a little more sophisticated, a little more gentle. but, you know, all honesty, somebody know, in all honesty, somebody who respects, who she respects, you know, i can name few names and you can name a few names and you could the can name a few names and you could names. the can name a few names and you could names. she'll the can name a few names and you could names. she'll actually; can name a few names and you could names. she'll actually say same names. she'll actually say to her, you know, and you know, leave you've still got leave while you've still got some of dignity, some shreds of dignity, leave before do more damage to before you do any more damage to the you still claim the party that you still claim to the to support, because frankly, the party getting much party is not getting much support you. it's getting support from you. it's getting quite opposite. quite the opposite. >> stephen, thank you much. >> stephen, thank you very much. stephen former stephen pound there, former labour reacting to labour mp, just reacting to diane abbott's tweet. diane abbott's shocking tweet. and after quite a long and it comes after quite a long line of shocking incidents involving diane abbott says the consensus there anyway at least appears it's time for appears to be that it's time for her to put her feet up and trouble more. but still to trouble is no more. but still to come, 4:00. yeah come, between now and 4:00. yeah look, these violent scenes look, after these violent scenes on yesterday , am on oxford street yesterday, i am going ask young going to ask have young people lost all respect for law and order? i don't know about you, but when i was a kid, you all do silly things. you all do daft stuff. you don't just shame me.

walk up beyond police vans, beyond riot vans and decide that you're going to loot stores en masse with your mates and film it. what is going on? are they idiots? do they not care ? where idiots? do they not care? where the heck are the parents? but first is your headlines with rihanna and jack. first is your headlines with rihanna and jack . patrick rihanna and jack. patrick >> thank you. good afternoon. it's coming up to 332. your top stories from the newsroom . the stories from the newsroom. the police service of northern ireland says dissident republicans claim to be in possession of officers. details following a data leak. chief constable simon byrne says he's deeply sorry for the industry full scale breach. he says the service is working hard to stop third parties from attempting to intimidate corrupt or cause harm to serving officers. the police service of northern ireland mistakenly shared details of 10,000 members of staff on

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england and wales. just a few showers, many places dry and still pretty overnight, 16 still pretty warm overnight, 16 or 17, the low, it'll still feel fairly warm on friday in the sunny spells, but it'll be a fairly wet start across northern scotland and some heavy pulses of clearing away here. and of rain clearing away here. and then we'll see showers develop through now, some spots through the day. now, some spots may not see any showers and stay dry. they'll be pretty well scattered in many areas, but we'll see quite few them we'll see quite a few of them for northern ireland western for northern ireland and western scotland. be scotland. and there'll be a fresher temperatures back scotland. and there'll be a freshecloser temperatures back scotland. and there'll be a freshe closer to mperatures back scotland. and there'll be a freshecloser to average,es back scotland. and there'll be a freshecloser to average, but ack down closer to average, but still the with some still in the east with some sunshine , 26 maybe across east sunshine, 26 maybe across east anglia , a little higher than anglia, a little higher than that. so still feeling fairly warm . a fresher feeling weekend, warm. a fresher feeling weekend, though, with more showers coming in. again, bands of those showers moving through on a fairly brisk again, fairly brisk wind. but again, parts of eastern england probably seeing many of probably not seeing too many of those on saturday. that those showers on saturday. that brisk breeze, though, will again make it feel fresher with temperatures closer to temperatures back closer to where . where they have been. >> looks like things are heating up, boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on .

of weather on. gb news, the home secretary has demanded that the police hunt down those responsible for yesterday's disturbance at oxford street youth clashed with police yesterday after a tiktok video calling on people to loot shops in the area. >> people made nine arrests and issued 34 dispersal orders . but issued 34 dispersal orders. but i mean, it was absolute feral behaviour in full view of police people who knew that police were going there. that is the behaviour of people who do not care about law and order, who have no fear of the cops, who don't mind getting a criminal record and in fact probably are relatively convinced that they won't actually get caught. peter kirkham now, is kirkham joins me now, who is a former detective inspector former detective chief inspector with metropolitan police . with the metropolitan police. peter, very much. do peter, thank you very much. do young today just not care ? young kids today just not care? >> yeah, to a large extent, yes i >> certainly things have headed in that direction . we've got

in that direction. we've got a couple of things to thank for that. >> first of all, the encouragement of their peers via social media. >> tiktok, i believe, in this case was the central bit of social media that was used. >> and egging each other on and encouraging each other. but also, don't forget, we've got a generation now, what were these kids? 16, 17, 18, something like that. kids? 16, 17, 18, something like that . um, they've mostly grown that. um, they've mostly grown up in a time when there were virtually no police on the street. they're just not used to seeing the police on the street. they've not been socialised into expecting police to intervene and tell them to stop doing things and so it's all a bit of a mystery to them when this sort of thing happens. >> and please turn off en masse. >> and please turn off en masse. >> i'm just going to ask >> okay. i'm just going to ask if just play some of this if we can just play some of this footage again. right. and just see can can your see if we can we can get your views. peter of what you are thinking as a former detective chief inspector with the met, when look at this , i mean,

when you look at this, i mean, it's a swarm of youths. >> the vast majority of whom are probably not got any or any significant criminal intent. they're just rushing about and squealing and shouting like idiots . um, squealing and shouting like idiots. um, but of squealing and shouting like idiots . um, but of course it can idiots. um, but of course it can be quite threatening and alarming to members of the pubuc alarming to members of the public who don't know what's going on. yeah 100. >> and that idea now for for the the home secretary to say, look, we need to track these people down and we need to guard them, down and we need to guard them, do you think that we'll be able to do that? i mean, it looks as though most of them were filming themselves doing it. >> i mean , it will be >> yeah. i mean, it will be possible if it was something that was very serious that was worth tracking them for . down worth tracking them for. down but the vast majority of them will not have committed any criminal offence at all. >> and certainly not any significant criminal offence . significant criminal offence. >> um, and, and therefore it's simply not worth the effort, the time effort , resources put into

time effort, resources put into tracking them down just for them to be given a caution or something . something. >> i just find it absolutely staggering because they've one then haven't they. i mean they, they were right. they were not right to behave way, but right to behave that way, but they right for the most they were right for the most part that there will be very little consequences those little consequences to those actions surprised actions. and i'm not surprised that all having laugh that they're all having a laugh about laughable about it because it is laughable that street in britain that that is a street in britain , oxford street, probably one of the streets in britain , the busiest streets in britain, loads of tourists it. so by loads of tourists on it. so by the way, that's our advertisement to the world anyway, anyone who decides anyway, for anyone who decides to visit london and hit to come and visit london and hit the street there, i just the high street there, i just find it absolutely staggering and is it just do you think is it just that they have grown up not seeing bobbies on the beat? >> i don't think it's just that we've seen seen sort of social norms changing over time. we've seen respect for parents and for teachers and for bus conductors and all the rest steadily going

downhill for decades. and yeah, indeed. >> and i just feel so sorry. that was jd sports. we can see a mcdonald's there. we can see oxford street is everybody watching this? almost definitely knows is full of, you know, big brands , big designer brands, big brands, big designer brands, big mainstream high street stores . i mainstream high street stores. i feel for them, but not as much as i feel for the person who owns a corner shop or the people who own the smaller stores who really do rely on, frankly , not really do rely on, frankly, not having all of their stuff looted . and are you concerned that now this will send a message out that you can just have at it? >> i'm concerned that it's the second year running. there's been something similar in oxford street . i think last year it was street. i think last year it was something to do with one or more of the candy stores. the american candy stores and there was damage to a vehicle. but a similar sort of scenario all around oxford circus . and is it around oxford circus. and is it is it going to be something that we start to expect to see every

summer break just like we expect to see low level disorder and yobbishness, for want of a better description around halloween and whatever now? >> yeah, no , indeed. and it must >> yeah, no, indeed. and it must be it must be incredibly disheartening for a police officer because you had loads of people there, loads of police officers who obviously don't want to be involved in that situation, who obviously want to enforce the law. i just wonder, is there any element of fear attached for police? attached to this for the police? now, of mostly now, this is a group of mostly young they worry that young people and they worry that whether or not and everyone's got their phones so, you got their phones out. so, you know one move and all of know, one wrong move and all of a sudden you might be done as a police officer yourself for a soul or dare i even say it, racism or things like that. and it stokes all that up . it stokes all that up. >> i don't i don't think i'd describe it as fear. there's certainly wariness about the amount of mobile phones and other ways that things are recorded on the street. now and officers are rightly wary that everything they do is under close scrutiny . and it's close scrutiny. and it's probably going to be on the

lunchtime news tomorrow. so there's wariness. and that's not necessarily a bad thing. i mean, the way these things have always been policed is that at the time of the incident, those that are the ringleaders, those that are committing specific more serious offences like theft, if they're actually going in and looting stuff, criminal damage, assaults on police officers , they're on police officers, they're arrested there. and then in the heat of the moment . and then heat of the moment. and then there's a follow up of those significant offences. but not evolving. >> and i suspect that will be okay. >> peter, thank you. thank you very, very much for your time. peter kirkham there is a former detective chief inspector with the the the met police. that's the police's it. that's the police's view on it. that's the law and order on it. when police's view on it. that's the l.look|d order on it. when police's view on it. that's the hook atorder on it. when police's view on it. that's the hook at that, on it. when police's view on it. that's the hook at that, i on it. when police's view on it. that's the hook at that, i don't n it. when police's view on it. that's the hook at that, i don't just when police's view on it. that's the hook at that, i don't just see an i look at that, i don't just see complete yobs. i don't complete feral yobs. i don't just see the police. maybe, maybe being able to do a bit more. i do think in those situations their hands are quite tied. don't see people tied. i don't just see people who don't have respect for law and order or any sense of community. if you cared about where you lived, you wouldn't go and it, and kick the backside out of it,

would right i do see would you? right what i do see is people who clearly also aren't afraid the aren't afraid of the ramifications from their parents. and that's something ramifications from their paregoing nd that's something ramifications from their paregoing to that's something ramifications from their paregoing to be it's something ramifications from their paregoing to be examininging ramifications from their paregoing to be examining later i'm going to be examining later on where are the on in the show where are the parents all of this? parents in all of this? but moving the cost of the state moving on, the cost of the state pension more than pension will be more than education. policing and defence combined in just two years time. we've got an ageing population in many respects that's a great thing. we're all living longer. fantastic but what can be done to diffuse this ticking time bomb? we try to get more bomb? do we try to get more people into work? that's people back into work? that's quite hard. if you can to quite hard. if you can afford to not you? unless not work, why would you? unless you absolutely love your job. but we maybe say to people but do we maybe say to people who rich that you don't get who are rich that you don't get the state pension ? are we the state pension? are we picking through that noise with liam halligan economics liam halligan or economics business just a tick business editor in just a tick patrick christys gb news

through until 7:00 this evening. gb news the people's . channel at 4:00. >> i will have lots more on that landmark day in the channel. more than 100,000 migrants have now arrived in small boats. but i'm to be asking expert i'm going to be asking an expert why many asylum seekers why do so many asylum seekers want come to uk, i.e, how want to come to the uk, i.e, how do treat them versus how do do we treat them versus how do the people of europe treat them? and i think that might shine a light a couple things, but light on a couple of things, but the state pension the triple lock state pension could be under threat as cost start british taxpayers start to soar. british taxpayers are set to spend more on pensions by 2025 than on education, policing and defence combined. that is according to new analysis from the times. this opens up a few different

questions. i'm going to be putting these to gb news economics and business editor liam halligan, who joins us with on the money . stitch you up on the money. stitch you up that, didn't they? right. okay. so go on. give us some of the facts and figures, first and foremost, and then we'll pick it apart. >> well, there's this thing called which called the triple lock, which means that the basic state pension year it goes up pension every year it goes up either by inflation or average earnings or 2.5, whichever is higher . and earnings or 2.5, whichever is higher. and they use the september number for the year before. that's why this april, the basic state pension went up by 10.1, because that's what inflation was back in september. and obviously that's really, really chunky . and as the baby really chunky. and as the baby boomers retire, people who are born after the war, late 40s, 50s into the early 60s as they retire to what we call the dependency ratio in our workforce gets higher. the number of older people who need to be supported by people who are at work and across the

western world, that dependency ratio is getting higher and higher, more and more expensive, fewer and fewer young people to pay fewer and fewer young people to pay the pensions of people who are who have retired and that's why we've been kind of raising the pension age, the basic state pension age, 66, 67. it's going up to 68. in a few years time, there's going to be a review. but let's just have a look at those numbers over what we've done here. we've just added together numbers that are already in the public domain to look at these rising state pension costs. and you can see they're 20, 20 to 2021 as the numbers roll out. so the numbers, the bar in red, that's education, home office and defence, and it's more than the bar in black , which is the basic bar in black, which is the basic state pension or dark blue in 2020, 21, 22, 23, 23, 24. but by 2024, 2025, you'll notice the darker bar is bigger than the red bar. and so by 2024, 2025, we're going to be spending £135

billion on the basic state pension compared to 133 billion on the whole of education that schools and universities, the whole of the home office. that's not just policing, it's the judiciary and the prison system and all the rest of it. and also defence. so basically this is a story of the pension costs, the state pension costs . this is state pension costs. this is nothing to do with public sector final salary, pensions or anything like that. this is just the basic state pension received at the moment by about 12.5 million people rising. all the time. it basically spirals and that's why i guess the big the big point of this, this is long term projections . but the big term projections. but the big point of this is the government may use numbers like this to try and say why the state pension is unaffordable or at least the triple lock is unaffordable . and triple lock is unaffordable. and i wouldn't be surprised if both main parties, actually, but particularly the tories, as they try and woo, attract younger

voters because there's a lot of bitterness among younger people. yeah, there is that the pensioners are the ones with all the property. they're the ones that could buy cheaper houses. they're the that got nice they're the ones that got nice pensions at work. pensions when they're at work. they a lot job security they had a lot more job security . obe they're being . obe they're also now being supported by a younger workforce that can't even get on the housing ladder. that's why i think the tories will at least dally with they will at least hint at that they will remove the triple lock, so they will remove this law that was brought in during the cameron osborne era that the basic state pension goes up each year by whatever is higher earnings rise or inflation or 2.5. >> should it be means tested though? because that could be one way round it. if we're not going to entice people who don't have to work because they can afford to retire, which is always going to be a hard sell for lot of people. why would for a lot of people. why would you don't have to? you work if you don't have to? right be tested? right could it be means tested? look millionaire. you look you are a millionaire. you do state pension. do not need the state pension. would have impact whatsoever? >> a lot of people do

>> well, a lot of people do argue this means testing of course, is kind of technical course, is the kind of technical way should it be way of saying should it be related your income. related to your income. so if you wealthy , should you even you are wealthy, should you even get the basic state pension? look completely clear. look let me be completely clear. i lot of high rolling i know a lot of high rolling people. the basic state pension is wine fund. is know it's their wine fund. yes literally spend it on yes they literally spend it on on vintage wine. meanwhile at the lower end of the income spectrum, we can't even house vulnerable families. there are a million and a half people on the council house waiting list. it does kind grotesque, but does seem kind of grotesque, but in order to means test it, you have to do all the rigmarole, all the bureaucracy of a means test. a lot of people would say, means testing is really invasive. whenever you draw a line across society , there are line across society, there are difficult choices. either side of that line, aren't they? i mean, where do you where do you draw the means test? >> well, it. well, how >> well, that's it. well, how would define is would you define rich and is the. >> the means test what >> yeah. is the means test what you've over your lifetime you've earned over your lifetime or it you earn the or is it what you earn the moment that you become eligible for state pension? very, for a basic state pension? very, very technical and along the

side, the technical privacy side, the technical and privacy issues means testing. there's issues of means testing. there's also massive of also a massive kind of philosophical element in the room . and that philosophical room. and that philosophical element or even elephant in the room is william beveridge. the beveridge report, written in 1944, commissioned by a tory government. it implemented under a labour government written by a liberal cross—party in british politics. at its best, a lot of people would say beveridge in that famous report which built our welfare state, the first welfare state in the world. remember the idea of universal benefits was absolutely key to get rid of the of means testing , which in the victorian era had become scandalous when families were hauled over the coals and the state was coming in and, you know , trying to work out how know, trying to work out how much money they had in a tea caddy under the floorboards or whatever. so means testing sounds a great idea, but sounds like a great idea, but it's thing you it's the kind of thing where you when implementing it, when you start implementing it, it gets really, nasty, it gets really, really nasty, really, really i do really, really quickly. i do think have a basic state

think we'll have a basic state pension years, decades pension for the years, decades to patrick do think to come. patrick but i do think figures like this and figures like it will mean that the triple lock will be in political play triple lock will be in political play at the next election. >> fascinating stuff. liam. look, thank you very, very much. liam our liam halligan there our economics and business editor with right. we've with on the money. right. we've just to squeeze with on the money. right. we've juspatrick's to squeeze with on the money. right. we've juspatrick's pick to squeeze with on the money. right. we've juspatrick's pick of to squeeze with on the money. right. we've juspatrick's pick of the squeeze with on the money. right. we've juspatrick's pick of the day. aze in patrick's pick of the day. one of them. anyway, this is when on a story when i focus on a story that isn't the agenda isn't dominating the news agenda but eye so today, but has caught my eye so today, former labour mp simon danchuk has himself in hot water has found himself in hot water after his wife was denied a visa because the government did not think that they were in a relationship. so danchuk has has married a rwandan beauty therapist who is literally half his age actually good for him. danchuk says that he's travelled to africa to meet her every two months, so it looks like his rwandan plan is working much better than the government . so better than the government. so i just thought i would bring that to you. but we go. now, of to you. but there we go. now, of course, landmark day for course, it is a landmark day for the crisis. the number the migrant crisis. the number of people who have crossed the channel has

channel in small boats has passed 100,000. come passed 100,000. when i come back, be analysing back, i will be analysing why people desperate people are so desperate to come here not in europe. here and not stay in europe. patrick christys gb news, britain's channel. britain's news channel. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news afternoon . on. gb news afternoon. >> alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. after a bit of a warmer spell, cooler conditions are on the way for friday and the weekend. it'll feel fresher a brisk breeze feel fresher with a brisk breeze and mixture of sunshine and and a mixture of sunshine and showers. and here's reason showers. and here's the reason why . area low pressure why. big area of low pressure and this front is pushing and this cold front is pushing in, away the warmth in, sweeping away the warmth that's been building up over the past days. it'll still past couple of days. it'll still be pretty warm and humid through this evening and overnight and some heavy rain on that weather front as crosses northern front as it crosses northern ireland do have a met ireland means we do have a met office. yellow warning in place , crossing , some heavy rain crossing scotland through the early hours as much of england as well for much of england and wales, showers, many wales, just a few showers, many places still pretty warm places dry and still pretty warm overnight, 16 or 17, the low, it'll still feel fairly warm on

friday in the sunny spells, but it'll be a fairly wet start across northern scotland, some heavy pulses of rain clearing away here and then we'll see showers developing through the day. spots may not see day. now, some spots may not see any showers and stay dry. they'll be pretty well scattered in many areas, but we'll see quite few of them for northern quite a few of them for northern ireland and western scotland, there'll feel. there'll be a fresher feel. temperatures closer to temperatures back down closer to average, still in east average, but still in the east with sunshine , 26 maybe with some sunshine, 26 maybe across , a little across east anglia, a little higher than that. so still feeling fairly warm. a fresher feeling fairly warm. a fresher feeling weekend, though, with more showers coming in. again, bands of those showers moving through on a brisk wind. through on a fairly brisk wind. but again, parts of eastern england probably too england probably not seeing too many showers on many of those showers on saturday. brisk breeze , saturday. that brisk breeze, though, will again make it feel fresher with temperatures back closer have been closer to where they have been a brighter outlook with boxt solar >> proud sponsors of weather on

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gb news. >> it's £0.04 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. a grim milestone came up today, 100,000 channel migrants, loads of different elements to this story. here's the first one that i'm going to be talking about. why are they all coming here and not staying in europe? are we really britain? we'll really soft touch britain? we'll be other be having a look at how other european treat illegal european countries treat illegal migrants compared to us, and i suspect that will answer a few questions. there's another question, though. you don't see

these do you? these stats very often, do you? how migrants have how many channel migrants have gone people gone missing? how many people have absconded hotels? how gone missing? how many people have people ed hotels? how gone missing? how many people have people are hotels? how gone missing? how many people have people are essentially? how gone missing? how many people have people are essentially on ow many people are essentially on the run in britain? i think that is worth noting as well. and in other news, a little bit of light the vegans light relief at the end. vegans are revolting, not themselves, not personally. they're not doing disgusting, but doing anything disgusting, but they revolting they are revolting against veganism. they're veganism. apparently they're going back to eating meat. a couple reasons. supposedly couple of reasons. supposedly some substitutes are some vegan meat substitutes are actually not that good for you . actually not that good for you. shock, horror. secondly are they being priced out of it? is veganism just a posh luxury for the wealthy? patrick christys on . gb news. heck of a lot to go out today. gb views dot news.com . i am looking forward to unearthing exactly how many people have gone missing after crossing the english channel and arriving in britain. now though, it's headlines as.

arriving in britain. now though, it's headlines as . patrick. it's your headlines as. patrick. >> thank you and hello to you. the top story from the newsroom is that the police service of northern ireland says dissident republicans claim to be in possession of police officers. >> details following a data leak. the police service of northern ireland mistakenly shared the details of 10,000 members of staff on tuesday. the government already assesses the terror threat level in the country as severe speed . king country as severe speed. king after an emergency meeting of the northern ireland policing board , chief constable simon board, chief constable simon byrne said hundreds of officers have been voicing their fears about safety . our northern about safety. our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie was at the news conference. >> the chief constable of northern ireland ended a four hour meeting with the policing board and afterwards he apologised for the leak of data and confidential information that he described as an industrial scale. he apologised not only to his officers but to the public for the breach of trust. he did, though, acknowledge that terrorists were

more than likely have this information and that they are doing their best to set up task force to deal with that . no force to deal with that. no officers have yet been redeployed or rehoused and he ended the meeting by saying that leadership was not about walking away and he had never been asked to resign. he leaves here now to go forward and have a meeting with the policing federation in dougie beattie. >> there . well, as you've been >> there. well, as you've been hearing, 1000 illegal migrants have now crossed the english channel since 2018. that number should read 100,000. the landmark figure was reached as another 11 dinghies carrying another 11 dinghies carrying another 550 people were intercepted today, attempting to cross the channel illegally in a statement, the home office said the unacceptable number of people making these dangerous crossings is placing an unprecedented strain on our asylum system . meanwhile, gb asylum system. meanwhile, gb news can confirm that the authorities have recovered an unmanned border force drone from

the channel based out of lydd airport in kent. it had been monitored seeing channel migrants when it suffered a technical failure and had plunged into the water. the number of people wanting to start routine hospital treatment but having to wait. in england has reached a new record high. nhs england has found over 7.5 million people were waiting to start treatment at the end of june , the highest number since june, the highest number since two thousand and seven. cut long waiting list is another of rishi sunak key priorities for 2023. shadow health secretary wes streeting says the government hasn't done enough . hasn't done enough. >> there's no doubt that the strikes we're seeing in the nhs are seeing huge numbers of appointments cancelled , appointments cancelled, operations delayed . operations delayed. >> this is disruption that doctors don't want and patients can't afford and that's why it's unforgivable that the prime minister is completely absent, failing to show any leadership whatsoever over the most

important thing. rishi sunak could be doing right now is to get doctors around the table and negotiate an end to these strikes . strikes. >> the high street chain wilko has collapsed. the company's appointed administrators , after appointed administrators, after failing to secure a rescue deal, putting about 12,000 jobs at risk. the chain has been unable to find emergency investment to save its 400 shops across the uk . its chief executive saying the retailer was left with no choice but to enter administration after leaving no stone unturned , turned in efforts to revive the business, as shoppers in west london said they were disappointed . disappointed. >> i hate the way all the high streets have collapsed and degraded , but this is such degraded, but this is such a lovely shop and the people who work here are nice and it's full of really normal old fashioned practical stuff that people need because everybody is closing down. >> i think the world is going crazy, to be honest . crazy, to be honest. >> things are really hard now, but what can we do? there's so many things closing down

nowadays. >> we just have to take it as it comes . now >> we just have to take it as it comes. now the home >> we just have to take it as it comes . now the home secretary comes. now the home secretary says anyone who took part in suspected looting on london's oxford street yesterday must be hunted down and locked up . hunted down and locked up. >> nine people were arrested as police wielding batons clashed with dozens of youngsters. it followed posts on tiktok , followed posts on tiktok, encouraging people to steal from a well known sports store . some a well known sports store. some outlets shut their doors as crowds gathered and officers issued 34 dispersal orders. suella braverman likened it to lawlessness seen in american cities . and lastly , wildfires in cities. and lastly, wildfires in hawaii have killed at least 36 people and forced thousands more to leave their homes. the blazes have devastated much of the resort city of lahaina on the island of maui, forcing people to jump into the ocean to escape smoke and flames. entire neighbourhoods have been burned to the ground as winds from an

adjacent hurricane have fanned the flames . you're with gb news the flames. you're with gb news across the uk on your tv in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news you're with britain's news . play gb news you're with britain's news. channel >> you are not a proper country unless you have proper borders. the politicians you elect are supposed to serve you and enact the will of the people . as we the will of the people. as we roll the red carpet out for our 100,000th channel migrant it is crystal clear that in britain , a crystal clear that in britain, a country that so many people have fought and died to protect and preserve , we no longer have preserve, we no longer have borders and we no longer have politicians who serve the people borders and we no longer have politiands who serve the people borders and we no longer have politiand time» serve the people borders and we no longer have politiand time again, the people borders and we no longer have politiand time again, people»ple borders and we no longer have politiand time again, people vote time and time again, people vote en masse for tighter border controls time and time again , controls time and time again, the opinion polls come back and show people to reduce show that people want to reduce net migration , reduce illegal net migration, reduce illegal immigration, the boats. the immigration, stop the boats. the latest is that two thirds of the pubuc latest is that two thirds of the public think the housing illegal

migrants on barges is an acceptable form of accommodation for them. the people have spoken . the people continue speak . . the people continue to speak. and if there was a referendum tomorrow on turning the boats and if there was a referendum tomori)w on turning the boats and if there was a referendum tomori think turning the boats and if there was a referendum tomori think we'd1g the boats and if there was a referendum tomori think we'd see re boats back, i think we'd see a stonking majority for boats being towed back to france. if there was a referendum on the rwanda plan and others like it, there would be a majority in favour . there favour. if there was a referendum on whether or not foreign criminals should be deported, if own deported, even if their own country origin isn't country of origin isn't considered safe, then there would be majority for that if would be a majority for that if there was a referendum on whether or not we should reduce net migration tens of net migration to the tens of thousands, even if that reduced economic growth for a few years, i think there would be i honestly think there would be a majority in favour of that. but alas , here we are, 100,000 but alas, here we are, 100,000 channel migrants and counting next to no deportations record. legal immigration . our legal immigration. our politicians are tripping over themselves to say what a toxic working environment westminster is for them at the moment, how toxic politics is. i agree it is

toxic, but not for the reasons that they say it's toxic because the british public keep voting for what they want and keep telling our politicians what they want and our politicians keep them . we just have keep ignoring them. we just have to sit here, lay back and think of whilst in of england whilst those in charge of running it it charge of running it run it straight into ground and straight into the ground and lose forever. our lose britain forever. our politicians think they know best, but clearly only they don't. as the grimme channel migrant milestone comes up today and our mps are all scratching their heads either not bothering to come up with solutions , not to come up with solutions, not having the balls to do what's necessary or actively blocking anything that might work. we have to admit that this simply cannot carry on. we cannot go on being a country without borders. if our politicians don't want to take responsibility , then they take responsibility, then they can pass that responsibility on to the british public. put some of those options that i've just outlined to the british people and then just do what they tell you . that's what i think .

you. that's what i think. anyway. email me gbviews@gbnews.com. and we'll be going into that inbox very, very shortly. but i am joined by gb news is homeland security editor mark white, and it's been a fittingly awful day in the channel as we bring up the red carpet for 100,000 channel migrants we've had more arrivals . we've had issues with a border force boat breaking down. we've had issues with a drone . it's had issues with a drone. it's not going well, is it? it's carry on channel migrants. >> , we were aware early on >> yeah, we were aware early on that the 100,000 figure had been broken and that it was actually going to be quite a significant day in the channel. the reason being , patrick, is it's day in the channel. the reason being, patrick, is it's an old familiar pattern that we talk about so often on the show is every time there are decent weather conditions in the channel weather conditions in the channel, then the boats come across en masse . they are across en masse. they are waiting. there are camp producer who's just been across in france recently says there are

thousands of people around calais, dunkirk and further down towards boulogne. all waiting for the weather to improve with a view to making it across the channel. and surely they did when the weather conditions improved after sort of early evening yesterday . then the boat evening yesterday. then the boat started to come arriving very early in the morning and add to the total. so far we're told, is 11 small boats that have come with about 550 people on board. and quite astonishing scenes as you allude to there, as the border force were trying to pick up those channel migrants from the small boats, one of the border force vessels is volunteer a catamaran suffered engine failure . it was out of engine failure. it was out of action for some time . the action for some time. the lifeboats had to be drafted in to ferry these small boat occupants from those boats back to dover harbour . and then to dover harbour. and then dunng to dover harbour. and then

during the morning, early in the morning, just after about 9:00, an emergency in the channel as one of those boats got into difficulty. there were a number of migrants in the water and four lifeboats had to scramble to that incident not far from dungeness . they were picked up, dungeness. they were picked up, those people taken to dover , those people taken to dover, some of them assessed. but i don't think any of them were seriously affected by that ordeal. and then to top that off, what was the border force drone sophisticated piece of equipment, one of a number of assets that border force and the coastguard have based at lydd airport in kent that suffered some kind of mechanical incident and ditched in the english channel. the latest that we've been told is that that drone has now been recovered. you see these pictures for here those watching on television . this is watching on television. this is former prime minister boris johnson on a visit to lydd

airport as he announced the rwanda policy . yeah, can you rwanda policy. yeah, can you remember that all those months ago? >> well, i can, yeah. and it's worth noting, look, throughout the course of this next hour, i'm having a look at certain different elements of this migrant as we bring up migrant crisis as we bring up this 100,000 channel migrant milestone. i'm going be milestone. i'm going to be having a look why they're having a look at why they're coming frankly, why is coming here. so, frankly, why is everyone come to everyone wanting to come to britain? we treat these britain? how do we treat these people versus how europeans treat them? okay. people on the continent over there, i am also going having a look how going to be having a look at how many gone missing many people have gone missing and whether or not we have any idea whatsoever as to how many of those people who have arrived via small boats are now just missing in britain. but you mentioned rwanda there. and right now it is rwanda or bust, isn't it, mark? >> yeah, i mean , this is a very, >> yeah, i mean, this is a very, very significant issue for the british government. it is at the very heart of the push. the boat stop the boats campaign for

rishi sunak, the fact is they have pushed through new legislation to ensure that those coming across the english channel are no longer classed as asylum seekers. yeah we can call them what they are illegal immigrants entering the country illegally. they will be detained and they will be denied the opportunity to apply for asylum and they will be removed from the country . but you can't the country. but you can't remove them back to a country that's unsafe . if so, if it's that's unsafe. if so, if it's iraq or syria or afghanistan or iran, or a myriad of other countries, they won't be going back there. so that leaves many, many thousands of people. what do you do with them? that's where the rwanda policy comes in. the government need this safe third country to send people to, to be processed and settled in that particular country. and unless rwanda passes at the supreme court later in the year , then the later in the year, then the whole policy could crumble . whole policy could crumble. >> but it's also not just because this is something i'm literally about to go on and

talk not just talk about now. it's not just about or not legally we about whether or not legally we can do it, which i think most people agree that you can. can do it, which i think most pe0jit's agree that you can. can do it, which i think most pe0jit's absolutely; that you can. can do it, which i think most pe0jit's absolutely fine, you can. can do it, which i think most pe0jit's absolutely fine, is)u can. and it's absolutely fine, is whether or not it then acts as a deterrent or not whether or not it then acts as a detethen or not whether or not it then acts as a detethen stops or not whether or not it then acts as a detethen stops people or not whether or not it then acts as a detethen stops people coming. this then stops people coming. mark, much. mark mark, thank you very much. mark white. home security white. there are home security editor and it is on that note that clear that the that it is clear that the government does how government does not know how to solve migrant even solve this migrant crisis. even deputy chairman lee anderson admitted news on tuesday admitted on gb news on tuesday that his party had failed to tackle immigration. tackle illegal immigration. i mean, started on mean, don't get me started on some others, but just some of the others, but just why do many migrants actually do so many migrants actually want to come here? how do other european countries cope with asylum seekers? i think this is asylum seekers? i think this is a vital point understanding a vital point in understanding why on earth have just why on earth we have just welcomed 100,000 channel migrants. with me now is charlie vehmas, who is a swedish mep. charlie, thank you very , very charlie, thank you very, very much. it's tremendous to have you on the show. great to see you on the show. great to see you there. how how does britain come spare when it comes to the treatment for channel migrants, asylum seekers, illegal immigrants as opposed to some of

our european friends? why are they all coming here? >> well , they are not all coming >> well, they are not all coming to britain as a matter of fact, a lot of them stays on the european continent . european continent. >> and i see that many of the eu member states are facing the same difficulties as the uk government and it's very problem matic. as a matter of fact, the last year only eu received . last year only eu received. 330,000 illegal immigrant . 330,000 illegal immigrant. that's the highest number since 2016. and the reason is obvious. this is economic migration and there is not enough willingness to deal with the problem . i to deal with the problem. i mean, just look at the mindset in brussels , charles, which is a in brussels, charles, which is a city where you're really not allowed to talk about illegal migration, but irregular migration. >> that's what the official document of the eu say and not only is that a fact, the

parliament is even trying to remove the fight against irregular migration from the key paragraphs of eu migration policy against the will of more sober member states governments. >> so there is a fight going on in europe over this. >> what happens if someone illegally arrives in sweden then? because at the moment here a lot of people are very angry, as you well know, about you getting put up in hotels. well evenin getting put up in hotels. well even in some cases build you a place to live or just give you a place to live or just give you a place to live that could have been used to house anybody else. homeless people already . so homeless people already. so there is a trope that you get treated better as an illegal migrant in britain than you do elsewhere. what would happen in sweden ? sweden? >> well , sweden, sweden? >> well, sweden, under the last government was very much like the uk. >> i mean, sweden even handed

out leaflets in the middle east instructing potential migrants on to how receive welfare upon arrival in sweden . arrival in sweden. >> sort of marketing exercise . >> sort of marketing exercise. and with the new conservative government, we are going about an international information campaign on on the paradigm shift in migration policies in sweden. that includes um, increased internal checks on foreigners and instructing government agencies , including government agencies, including the tax agency, to work to find illegals and, and eventually to deport them. and this is the new policy of sweden. >> and it also includes, i might add , aid policy, which now will add, aid policy, which now will be focussed on counteracting illegal migration and increase returns, voluntary repatriation and this has spilled over to brussels, as a matter of fact,

for the first time ever, the eu parliament has said that it's the right thing for the eu to withhold aid to countries who refuse to receive their own nationals . so there is a shift nationals. so there is a shift going on here and the sad thing is that it had to go even. we have segregation to a point that means one shooting a day bomb bombings every week. so so let's hopeit bombings every week. so so let's hope it doesn't get that far in the uk. >> no, exactly . and i remember >> no, exactly. and i remember a few years ago starting to report really on what was going on in sweden and being incredibly concerned about it and other countries as well. and it is interesting now that you say that that brussels is starting to get tough. so do you think that there is an attitude in the european union on the continent there to help wave people through because they know that the end point is britain and

frankly, that stops being their problem? yeah uh, of course . problem? yeah uh, of course. >> uh, this has been the policy , uh, up until now, by the eu frontier states such as greece, italy, so on and so forth. and sweden, uk and others have happily received those waved through immigrants . uh, happily received those waved through immigrants. uh, this is changing in sweden. and when we impose internal border controls to towards denmark , denmark will to towards denmark, denmark will impose it towards germany , impose it towards germany, germany towards austria, austria , towards italy. this is the new mindset building up in europe because voter are getting sick and tired of politicians sitting and tired of politicians sitting and doing nothing about this problem. and that will leave italy in a situation where they basically will have to implement an australian policy and meaning that if you try to enter italy or the eu illegally, you will

forfeit your right to apply for asylum and you have started to see, uh, italy realising that by negotiating with tunisia in order to be able to return on the boats without those individuals being able to apply for asylum . this is a paradigm for asylum. this is a paradigm shift in and by itself, and it has been accepted by all the other eu member states as part of eu migration policy. let's see if it stands in the end. but it's an interesting tendency, just very, very quickly because we are a bit pressed for time. >> so do you have problems with lawyers trying block lawyers trying to block deportations ? we would call them deportations? we would call them lefty lawyers here in britain. well well, not to the extent that the uk has problems with it, but we are following the debate and we are asking ourselves whether this paradigm shift will will stand the test of strasbourg or if we will have to draw conclusions by by

activist lawyers trying to undo sweden's immigration policies. >> this is a debate to come in sweden and in the eu as well. >> look , thank you very much. >> look, thank you very much. i've thoroughly enjoyed this conversation and i know our viewers and listeners have viewers and listeners will have done as well. and i look forward to talking you very to talking to you again very soon. vehmas there, soon. is charlie vehmas there, who i he who is a swedish mep? i think he hit the on the head when he hit the nail on the head when he said it's a shame that it had to get people get this bad before people started acting. but there we go. the office has reached the home office has reached a dales. sorry to today's dales. sorry reacted to today's milestone by issuing this statement. the unacceptable number their number of people risking their lives dangerous lives by making these dangerous crossings an crossings is placing an unprecedented strain on our asylum our priority is asylum system. our priority is to boats and our small to stop the boats and our small boats . operational command to stop the boats and our small boats. operational command is working french working alongside our french partners agencies to partners and other agencies to disrupt people smugglers. disrupt the people smugglers. the government is going even further illegal further through our illegal migration mean migration act, which will mean that arriving in uk that people arriving in the uk illegally are detained and promptly removed to their country of origin or safe country of origin or a safe third country. right? you can get loads more on story on get loads more on this story on our website gbnews.com. the fastest growing national news site all site in the country. all the

best opinion. best analysis, bigger opinion. and know the and of course, as you know the best breaking news as well. best for breaking news as well. but headlong but we are hurtling headlong towards net zero whether you like it or not. i am asking today though, is the policy going to lead to a collapse in democracy and dare i say it, would it even mean tyranny? patrick christys on gb news, britain's

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channel migrant number passes 100,000. >> now we'll dig deep into the figures and ask just how many of them have actually gone missing. but did you know that there are currently on the country's fourth carbon budget ? so these fourth carbon budget? so these mega budgets have been legally signed up to by all three major parties and enshrined in law now, until 2037. so that's potentially 2 or 3 general elections away. the british pubuc elections away. the british public has no say in this. so while so many of us don't like that drive towards net zero, we're concerned about how we're going to afford it. we don't necessarily think it's morally or financially viable. there appears to be absolutely nothing that we can do about it. joining me now is live peer and academy and director of the academy of ideas. it's the wonderful baroness claire fox. thank you very, to great have very, very much. to great have you show. worried you on the show. are you worried then push for net zero then that this push for net zero might lead to or has might actually lead to or has led to, frankly, the destruction of democracy and dare i say it,

even tyranny? >> well, certainly i don't know about the word tyranny, but you're absolutely nail on head with the anti—death democratic nature of this. >> and it takes a number of forms. on the one hand, you've got the idea that the science shows so you're told there's no debate, there's no point in trying to against anything trying to argue against anything in relation to decarbonising society, because otherwise we're all going to, you know, be up in smoke. you know, that kind of argument . and it's the experts argument. and it's the experts who've told us this. and secondly, when they brought in the change act in 2008, the climate change act in 2008, which at the time nobody hardly noficed which at the time nobody hardly noticed , it set in train a whole noticed, it set in train a whole range of targets. and there's a range of targets. and there's a range of targets. and there's a range of international treaties that do the same, which basically say that it doesn't matter what the public vote for, it doesn't matter whether they object or not. you have to go along with it. and we know that that undermine means any sense of people having control over politicians having control politicians or having control over the decisions that they

want to make in the future if they're going to choose who to vote for in an election. so it's disastrous for democracy and all sorts . sorts of ways. >> in order for to us >> and so in order for to us now, if decided en masse the now, if we decided en masse the pubuc now, if we decided en masse the public that enough is enough , public that enough is enough, okay, it wouldn't actually matter if we went out at the next election , would it, and next election, would it, and voted for that pretty voted for a party that pretty much openly said they were going to do away with it all because there already stuff place. to do away with it all because theiwould ready stuff place. to do away with it all because theiwould have stuff place. to do away with it all because theiwould have to uff place. to do away with it all because theiwould have to uff repeal that. >> well, i think we can all be a little cynical at the sudden realise ization by the conservative party that maybe the net zero policies which they've enthusiastically endorsed and even, you know , if endorsed and even, you know, if you remember boris johnson, even when we were in lockdown, was in cop 26 enthusiastically or rather dystopian kind of a minute till midnight. rather dystopian kind of a minute till midnight . you know, minute till midnight. you know, we're all going to end. we've got to do this. if you remember all that, you might then get a bit cynical when rishi sunak or michael gove says maybe net zero has to be slowed down a little. but i do think on the other

hand, it is indicates that pubuc hand, it is indicates that public opinion can change things because no doubt about it, the fact that the public are now aware of the costs of net zero are sceptical of what it really means now that they've been brought to understand what it really means in terms of cost of living. but not just that, a certain cynicism about the certainty of the science. it does mean that politicians do start kind of gulping and acting differently. so what i would suggest is that the more public pressure there is, then whatever political party gets elected will have to kind of look over their shoulder at elect the their shoulder at the elect the electorate. and that's why it's always causing fuss . always worth causing a fuss. just one of the thing in relation to this, one of the things that happened with the pubuc things that happened with the public accounts was public accounts committee was it said, oh , actually in order to said, oh, actually in order to achieve net zero, we're going to have to have individual behaviour change and i think what you can't underestimate is , is that what they're basing this whole net zero targets on, is that we individual i mean you

say we i'm house of lords. i get that but that every single member of the british citizen is going to have to change the way they live in to order reach these targets and when i've challenged them in the house of lords on this and said, you know, this is behaviour change, nudge and all the rest of it, they say, don't worry, we agree with you, we have the with you, we have to bring the pubuc with you, we have to bring the public with or in other public with us. or in other words, no choice, they words, no choice, right? they basically very basically say, oh, we're very sensitive about what public sensitive about what the public think . oh, sensitive about what the public think. oh, we'll sensitive about what the public think . oh, we'll persuade them think. oh, we'll persuade them one or another. and that's one way or another. and that's no choice and that's no democracy . and that's what's so dangerous. >> absolutely. spot on. absolutely spot on. and how long is that fear is it before that fear mongering, that tactic is mongering, that old tactic is used it's one minute used again? it's one minute to midnight. sudden , midnight. all of a sudden, there's pictures of some child somewhere , some child actor there's pictures of some child somevbeen, some child actor there's pictures of some child somev been, you1e child actor there's pictures of some child somev been, you know,d actor there's pictures of some child somev been, you know, thistor there's pictures of some child somevbeen, you know, this is who's been, you know, this is what will happen to your children future if he children in the future if he doesn't and then, oh, doesn't know. and then, oh, sorry, you're only allowed to use for amount of use your car for this amount of times you're only allowed times a day. you're only allowed to and to travel to this amount and then in civil then you're in proper civil liberties absolutely then you're in proper civil liberties on absolutely then you're in proper civil liberties on territory. tely then you're in proper civil liberties on territory. and trampled on territory. and i don't really live in don't really want to live in that again, not after

that world again, not after covid. going to we're covid. but we're going to we're going to have to leave it there, i'm thank you very, i'm afraid. but thank you very, very have on very much. great to have you on the fantastic insights. the show. fantastic insights. baroness the baroness claire fox, the director of academy director of the academy of ideas and peer. well, loads and a life peer. well, loads more still come between now more still to come between now and than 100,000 more still to come between now and crossed100,000 more still to come between now and crossed the 000 more still to come between now and crossed the english more still to come between now and on crossed the english more still to come between now and on smallad the english more still to come between now and on small boats. english more still to come between now and on small boats. but.ish more still to come between now and on small boats. but how more still to come between now and of on small boats. but how more still to come between now and of them|all boats. but how more still to come between now and of them haveoats. but how more still to come between now and of them have gonebut how more still to come between now and of them have gone awolw more still to come between now and of them have gone awol ? many of them have gone awol? that's what want to know. how that's what i want to know. how many them have actually just many of them have actually just disappeared britain? quite disappeared into britain? quite possibly be again. possibly never to be seen again. but as headlines but right now, as your headlines with polly . patrick, thank you. with polly. patrick, thank you. >> the headlines this hour. the police service of northern ireland say dissident republicans claim to be in possession of police officers . possession of police officers. information chief constable simon byrne said today he's deeply sorry for the industrial scale breach after the psni mistake only shared details of 10,000 members of staff on tuesday. he says the service is working hard to protect serving officers and gb news can reveal

a 100,000 migrants have now crossed the channel since records began in 2018. the landmark figure was reached as authorities intercept at least 11 dinghies carrying around 550 people throughout today . and the people throughout today. and the number of people waiting to start routine hospital treatment in england has reached a new record high. nhs england found 7.6 million people were waiting to start treatment at the end of june, the highest number since records began in two thousand and seven. those are the headlines. more on all those stories by heading to our website, gbnews.com . a brighter website, gbnews.com. a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news sponsors of weather on. gb news afternoon . afternoon. >> alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. after a bit of a warmer spell, cooler

conditions are on the way for friday and the weekend. it'll feel fresher with a brisk breeze and mixture of sunshine and and a mixture of sunshine and showers. here's the reason showers. and here's the reason why . big area low pressure why. big area of low pressure and cold front is pushing and this cold front is pushing in, away the warmth in, sweeping away the warmth that's been building up over the past of days. it'll still past couple of days. it'll still be pretty warm and humid through this overnight and this evening and overnight and some weather this evening and overnight and some as weather this evening and overnight and some as it weather this evening and overnight and some as it crosses weather this evening and overnight and some as it crosses northerneather front as it crosses northern ireland means we do have a met office. place, office. yellow warning in place, some rain crossing some heavy rain crossing scotland the early hours scotland through the early hours as well for much of england and wales, just a few showers, many places and still pretty warm places dry and still pretty warm overnight, the low, overnight, 16 or 17, the low, it'll still feel fairly warm on friday in the sunny spells, but it'll be a fairly wet start across northern scotland , some across northern scotland, some heavy rain clearing heavy pulses of rain clearing away here and then we'll see showers developing through the day. some spots may not see day. now, some spots may not see any showers and stay dry. they'll be pretty well scattered in many areas, but we'll see quite of them for northern quite a few of them for northern ireland scotland , ireland and western scotland, there'll fresher feel. there'll be a fresher feel. temperatures down closer temperatures back down closer to average, the east average, but still in the east with some sunshine. 26 maybe across east anglia , a little

across east anglia, a little higher than that. so still feeling fairly warm . a fresher feeling fairly warm. a fresher feeling fairly warm. a fresher feeling weekend, though, with more showers again, more showers coming in. again, bands of those showers moving through on a fairly brisk wind. but parts of eastern but again, parts of eastern england probably not seeing too many on many of those showers on saturday. that brisk breeze, though, will again make it feel fresher temperatures back fresher with temperatures back closer have been closer to where they have been a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . proud sponsors of weather on. gb news. more on today's top story, which is more than 100,000 migrants are now crossing the english channel are now crossing the english channel, 11 dinghies carrying 500 people have arrived today alone. but it's pretty much certain many of them certain that many of them will go missing before their asylum cases are heard. it was revealed that recently more than 6000 claims were withdrawn in the first three months of this year. almost three quarters of them

were albanians. so just how many illegal immigrants are actually absconding? do we know ? so absconding? do we know? so joining me now is the former chief immigration officer at uk border force. it's kevin saunders. kevin, thank you very, very much. this was actually raised in the house of commons andindeed raised in the house of commons and indeed at a couple of government committees as well as it stands, we don't it currently stands, we don't know how many people just flee into britain never to be seen again, do we know? >> we don't. >> we don't. >> and to be honest, patrick, once they've disappeared , it's once they've disappeared, it's virtually impossible , al, to virtually impossible, al, to find them because under our laws , you can't just stop somebody on the street and say, oh , this on the street and say, oh, this is one of the reasons why my id cards were raised for everybody i >> -- >> like the europeans. >> like the europeans . so >> like the europeans. so you have to carry identity . and have to carry identity. and there and the police have the authority and the power to

actually stop you and say, where's your id card? >> and if you haven't got it with you, you're carted off to the police station until somebody can turn up with it. but the reality is we have long forgotten any notion of being able to patrol and secure our own borders. >> we now are a country without borders as far as i'm concerned. but you would have thought that we might be able to secure and control we can't do control hotels, and we can't do that was that either. and there was a report that came out about, oh, gosh, unfortunate . gosh, this is so unfortunate. thousands of children have gone missing from asylum seeker hotels . well, that all went very hotels. well, that all went very quiet when actually it emerged that loads of them weren't really children. they were quite teenagers really young adults in a lot of cases. many of them were and a lot of them were albanian and a lot of them it will no doubt turn out to be working cocaine trade . working in the cocaine trade. >> yeah. yes. you're quite right. >> i mean, the children. >> i mean, the children. >> the children in story was really a non—story because i think it turned out that there were about 150 that had actually

gone missing in the end. >> now , one is too many. but the >> now, one is too many. but the initial story were thousands and it turned out to be 150. and so there is a there is a problem with the children disappearing, but not as big a problem as some elements of the media wanted to pretend that there was. yeah but just to confirm, because i think this is important. >> it's all very well and good saying we've got 100,000 channel migrants, we've got hotels with this amount of people currently in them. we have a backlog of around 170,000 people, but the reality of the situation is, kevin, if i'm understanding you correctly, is that if i was an illegal immigrant and i was put into a hotel now and then i legged it and i had just friends here, which let's be honest , a here, which let's be honest, a lot of them probably do. then i quite possibly could stay missing forever. quite possibly could stay missing forever . could i? missing forever. could i? >> yes , you could indeed. >> yes, you could indeed. >> yes, you could indeed. >> patrick. what would happen with the hotels ? because they're with the hotels? because they're not detention centres . this

not detention centres. this perhaps is another reason why everybody should be detained. but that's another argument . everybody should be detained. but that's another argument. um, you would disappear if we hadn't heard from you or if the hotel hadnt heard from you or if the hotel hadn't heard from you within a relatively short period . then relatively short period. then your aside alum claim would deem that to have lapsed and that would be the end of it. you would be the end of it. you would be the end of it. you would be in the uk totally and absolutely illegally and if found, liable to detention . but found, liable to detention. but let's be honest, you're not to going be found because no one's looking for you . looking for you. >> no, no, because the enforcement people looking for you don't really have enough powers because you can't just go up to somebody in a multiracial city and say, who are you? >> let me see some id ? >> let me see some id? >> no, of course you're not. >> no, of course you're not. >> no, of course you're not. >> no, of course. and no, of course. and i don't want to live in a country like that, to be honest with you. i don't think

many people do. really. and it's just not something that should have been allowed to happen. i mean, our only option mean, if now our only option because people because we've got so many people missing, we would have missing, is that we would have to situation police to have a situation where police officers immigration officers officers or immigration officers were stopping people were just stopping people at random on street who they random on the street who they thought looked though thought looked as though they might originated from might not have originated from britain, impossible to britain, which is impossible to do, frankly, without just actually being racist or certainly being accused of being racist. we don't really want to live that country as it live in that country as it currently is. but you don't think the public have a right to be concerned about this? because we see the boats coming. and as we see the boats coming. and as we people are saying we see people who are saying that genuinely seeking that they are genuinely seeking asylum see a lot of asylum and we see a lot of mostly men and mostly young men , i mean, the illusion yet again that the vast majority of these people are genuinely fleeing war and persecute . ocean surely is and persecute. ocean surely is shattered by the numbers of them that are going missing. and when you ask our politicians, can you please tell us how many you have lost, they don't know, do they ? lost, they don't know, do they? >> well, no, it's very difficult

to find out. but like that, i've been trying all afternoon . um, been trying all afternoon. um, but you're right. and this does throw the. the idea that everybody is an asylum seeker running from persecution of one state source or another into to doubt. because if, if, you know, 10,000 people have disappeared in in the period and they're working and they're working aren't they they they're they're economic migrants. there's no there's no other other argument. it's just nonsense . patrick it's just nonsense. patrick absolute nonsense. >> what kind of resource do we currently have devoted to finding and tracking people down who abscond? well it's the immigration enforcement teams that deal with all of this. >> but their their remit is law limited somewhat . and what they

limited somewhat. and what they can and cannot do i mean , for can and cannot do i mean, for the reasons that you said, you can't just you can't just stop people and demand to know who they are. so they'll go to if they are. so they'll go to if they they believe that . a they they believe that. a takeaway has illegals working there, then they will raid that place. but they have to have , place. but they have to have, you know, a reason for doing it. carwashes are another thing they'll they'll hit car washes and see who's working there and they'll always find some people but not the numbers that have disappeared. no >> all right, kevin, thank you very much. always a pleasure. kevin saunders there. he's the former chief immigration officer at uk border force. well look, as said, the course as i said, throughout the course of we course, of this show, we are, of course, picking the various picking apart the various different the news different aspects to the news that 100,000 channel migrants have entered so far have now entered britain. so far this just this hour alone, this year. just this hour alone, we taken a look at whether we have taken a look at whether or not we treat them a lot better than our european friends , whether or lawyers get , whether or not lawyers get involved in deportation involved more in deportation cases country than they cases in this country than they do mainland continental

do on mainland continental europe, and whether or not we have any idea at all how many people actually abscond from migrant hotels. and shortly after 5:00, we will be joined live on this show by nigel, who will look at whether or not we should get out of the echr. that is , of course, another aspect of is, of course, another aspect of this story. i will also discuss the role that the church of england is playing in all of this . are making things this. are they making things worse actually helping worse by actually helping people to christianity to convert to christianity disingenuously in order to not be where they from be sent back to where they from in they face persecution? be sent back to where they from in i'mthey face persecution? be sent back to where they from in i'm lookinga persecution? be sent back to where they from in i'm looking at ersecution? be sent back to where they from in i'm looking at a secution? be sent back to where they from in i'm looking at a couple 1? be sent back to where they from in i'm looking at a couple of but i'm looking at a couple of other as well today, other stories as well today, one of which sales of vegan of which is about sales of vegan food fast . and now an food falling fast. and now an industry expert says that it's not healthy. it won't save the planet, and it tastes like burnt dog food. i wonder how much burnt food they have eaten. burnt dog food they have eaten. but there we go. patrick christys britain's christys on gb news, britain's news .

8 pm. on. gb news. >> at 5:00. i will have, of course, the news of the migrant crisis . course, the news of the migrant crisis. nigel farage will be joining me to discuss the number of small boats passing 100,000 number of people on those boats. but is the end of the vegan food boom upon us? beyond meat has admitted that their company's value has dropped by $9 billion. the company says that the current food crisis in europe and higher production cost is

the driving factor behind their slumping sales. but after one industry expert said that it tastes like burnt dog food, could it just be that the world is finally saying no to fake meat? i'm joined now by livestock farmer gareth wyn jones. gareth, great to have you on the show. so there's a couple of things when it comes to vegan meat, which is the taste i would argue as well, but also the idea of whether or not it is actually good for you. when you look at the back of the packets and you see everything that goes into it as opposed to the kind of stuff that make, which is just animal. >> yeah, to be honest with you , >> yeah, to be honest with you, a couple of days ago, before i came out on my harley bob's show, i had a little bit of an experiment where i cooked a vegan burger and i cooked a real burger, both quite cheap . um, burger, both quite cheap. um, did it, you know , as a little did it, you know, as a little bit of experiment for myself and i'll tell you. yeah surprisingly

, when you look at the ingredients that go into it, it just tells you everything . like, just tells you everything. like, don't eat it. it's it's not good for you. it's not good for the planet. and they've been misleading people to think that they're to going save the earth by eating this absolute rubbish . so, you know, i'm glad to see that all this is starting to come back and bite them in the backside. >> no, indeed. and i can i can see why people want to do it. i think there's something very commendable about an idea to save animals lives and save the planet. i'm not, you know, having a pop at that, but it's whether or not it's actually really making any difference whatsoever. because if you add up all of the different things that to put in that you have to put in something it a bit something to make it look a bit like a burger or look like like a burger or look a bit like a or a bit like a a sausage or look a bit like a streak bacon, example . i streak of bacon, for example. i think you at some of the think you look at some of the stuff that's in there and all the supplements, have they the supplements, where have they all how they all come from? how have they all been think, been made? and you think, i'm sorry, way that sorry, but there's no way that that can be better for the

planet or better for the individual than, know, we individual than, you know, if we just laminate that just slaughtered a laminate that well , i'm just slaughtered a laminate that well, i'm going to tell you, as a farmer, every single thing that we put on our plate is going have a death toll. going to have a death toll. >> . from carrots to the >> okay. from the carrots to the corn to the sweetcorn, everything is going to have a death toll. so by killing one cow to feed many families, to killing, you know, thousands of insects, to produce our veg, they're always going to be a death toll. so these people have been misguided, misled . the only been misguided, misled. the only way to change what we're doing is look at seasonal food, look at regenerative agriculture, and definitely look at seasonal. thatis definitely look at seasonal. that is going to make a massive difference on your carbon footprint . if we can bring that footprint. if we can bring that back to the people so they can have an understanding of how farming and how food is produced within the uk, it will make a world of difference. and one third of the food that we are producing in the uk goes to

landfill . so waste less . look at landfill. so waste less. look at what we're producing and we will definitely make a difference on that net zero that these people are pushing as their agenda. exactly >> i've got some stats in front of me here, so it's not just the meatless burger companies that are failing . so there was a time are failing. so there was a time when every single advert on telly for a food product would make a virtue out of having a vegan element to it. now, oatly apparently, which is this it's oat milk . apparently, which is this it's oat milk. isn't it really innocent smoothies, supposedly. no, no, listen, you . no, no, listen, you. >> you've got to make sure that you don't put that across because there is no such thing as oat milk. >> i get that. yeah. there's no nipple on an oat, is there? it's oat liquid. >> was oat bloop. >> was oat bloop. >> yes. yeah. yeah enough. >> yes. yeah. yeah fair enough. okay. anyway, innocent okay. right. anyway, innocent smoothies, nestle well . smoothies, nestle as well. they've all removed vegan products recently. there's restaurants . the burger company restaurants. the burger company . they appointed administrators . we've got london's clean kitchen club. i'm reading here

they've been closed after only 18 months. brixton's cafe van goff has appealed for support after revealing a drop in customers . it's almost like customers. it's almost like veganism , i think became a bit veganism, i think became a bit of a fad , isn't it? and i think of a fad, isn't it? and i think people are just reverting back to normal meat now. well you know, i'm going to be totally honest with you. >> i will never take anywhere anyone's personal choice if they want to go vegan , vegetarian want to go vegan, vegetarian and, you know, you know, carnivore or whatever it is, that's a personal choice. there's so many different diets. what we've got to really understand is everything we eat will have a cost. everything will have a cost. everything will have a cost. everything will have a cost to something else. so we all have our place to play in this circle. as a farmer , i know this because i'm farmer, i know this because i'm producing the food to feed people. so i know what it takes to take something's life to put it on that plate. and if we can work together to make sure that nothing's wasted, everything that we produce is seasonal,

local, regenerative and environmentally friendly. we can move forward. veganism is a choice. and, you know , if they choice. and, you know, if they want to do that, yeah, no problem. >> you know what i've never understood so, you know, i've never understood, right? is why vegans decide that they don't want to eat meat, but they want to make the thing that they're eating look as much like meat as possible. so, like , they'll make possible. so, like, they'll make a fake vegan steak or a burger that when you squeeze it looks like it bleeds. i thought that was the reason. one of the reasons why didn't want to reasons why you didn't want to eat meat because you didn't like reasons why you didn't want to eat metheecause you didn't like reasons why you didn't want to eat metheecauseofou didn't like reasons why you didn't want to eat metheecauseof an didn't like reasons why you didn't want to eat metheecauseof an animalke reasons why you didn't want to eat metheecauseof an animal on seeing the blood of an animal on your i've never your plate. so i've never understood mentality of some understood the mentality of some of . of those people. >> let's take concepts . we are >> let's take concepts. we are hunter gatherers. we've always been and we'll always have meat in our diet , been and we'll always have meat in our diet, however we look at it and they will be environmentalists and they will be that are going to be be people that are going to be pushing agenda and pushing an agenda and a propaganda to think that they're going the planet by not going to save the planet by not eating meat. it's a misconception that people don't really understand and go and

follow a farmer. have a look at my youtube pages, go and have a look at my facebook pages and just follow a farmer. understand where your food comes from and start connecting again. because as 84% of the people within society have moved away from farming , from food production, farming, from food production, let's bring it back. it's education is key here, patrick, and we can do this. we can bring people back so they can understand that healthy food is going to make them mentally and physically healthy for the long term. saving billions for the nhs, building a better britain on our bellies, my friend. we need a farming food revolution going forward and we can do this working together, stirring stuff. >> it was churchillian , that >> it was churchillian, that fantastic look, you have a great holiday. thank you very much. yeah thank you very much. taking time out the holidays to talk to us. gareth wyn jones there, livestock farmer. now of course, it a landmark day for the it is a landmark day for the

migrant a grim migrant crisis. it's a grim number, hit it. number, but we've hit it. 100,000 channel migrants in just a moments. nigel a matter of moments. nigel farage will be sitting in a chair there with me to chair right there with me to talk his views. patrick talk about his views. patrick christys on news, britain's christys on gb news, britain's news channel. >> the temperature's rising boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> afternoon, alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. >> after a bit of a warmer spell, cooler conditions are on the way for friday and the weekend. it'll feel fresher with a breeze and a mixture of a brisk breeze and a mixture of sunshine and showers. and here's the why. big area of low the reason why. big area of low pressure and this cold front is pushing so keeping away the pushing in. so keeping away the warmth been building up warmth that's been building up over couple days , over the past couple of days, it'll pretty warm and it'll still be pretty warm and humid through this evening and overnight rain on overnight and some heavy rain on that front as it crosses that weather front as it crosses northern ireland means we do have met office. yellow have a met office. yellow warning some heavy warning in place. some heavy rain through rain crossing scotland through the early hours as well for much of just a few of england and wales, just a few showers, places dry and showers, many places dry and

still pretty warm overnight, 16 or 17, the low, it'll still feel fairly warm on friday in the sunny spells, but it'll be a very wet start across northern scotland, some heavy pulses of rain clearing away here and then we'll see showers developing through the day. some spots through the day. now, some spots may not see showers and stay may not see any showers and stay dry. they'll be pretty well scattered in many areas, but we'll quite of them we'll see quite a few of them for and western for northern ireland and western scotland , there'll be a fresher scotland, there'll be a fresher feel. back down feel. temperatures back down closer but still in closer to average, but still in the east with some sunshine, 26 maybe across east anglia , a maybe across east anglia, a little higher than that. so still feeling fairly a still feeling fairly warm, a fresher feeling weekend, though, with more showers coming in. again, bands of those showers moving through on a fairly brisk wind but again, of wind. but again, parts of eastern england probably not seeing of those showers seeing too many of those showers on brisk breeze , on saturday. that brisk breeze, though, will again make it feel fresher temperatures fresher with temperatures back closer have been . closer to where they have been. >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar pretty sponsors of weather on .

gb news. >> it's 5:00. it's patrick christys. it is gb news. and 100,000 channel migrants. yes, thatis 100,000 channel migrants. yes, that is the grim tally that we now have. but it opens up a load of different talking points about this. doesn't say and who better to do it with than the man himself, nigel farage. he joins live in a matter of joins me live in a matter of moments. the key moments. and one of the key things asking things i'm going to be asking him whether or

him is about this, whether or not it is time to pull out of the echr will it happen? or as i suspect , we'll just get a load suspect, we'll just get a load of it and then of talk about it and then actually we a actually do anything. we hear a lot about lawyers, though actually do anything. we hear a l

with paul. patrick thanks very much indeed. >> good evening to you. the top story today the police service of northern ireland says dissident republicans claim to be in possession of police officers. detail files following a data breach . the police a data breach. the police service of northern ireland mistakenly shared the details of 10,000 members of staff on tuesday . the government already tuesday. the government already assesses the terror threat level in the country as severe. well, speaking after an emergency meeting of the northern ireland policing board , chief constable policing board, chief constable simon byrne said hundreds of officers have voiced their individual fears now for safety. our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie was at the news conference. the chief constable of northern ireland ended a four hour meeting with the policing board and afterwards he apologised for the leak of data and confidential information that he described as an industrial scale. >> he apologised not only to his officers but to the public for the breach of trust. he did,

though, acknowledge the terrorists were more than likely have this information and that they are doing their best to set up task force to deal with that. now two officers have yet been redeployed or rehoused and he ended the meeting by saying that leadership was not about walking away. and he had never been asked to resign. he leaves here now to go forward and have a meeting with the policing federation on dougie beattie . federation on dougie beattie. >> well, our other news on gb news today is that 100,000 illegal migrants have now crossed the english channel since 2018. the landmark figure was reached as another 11 dinghies carrying another 550 people intercepted , attempting people intercepted, attempting to cross the channel illegally to cross the channel illegally to the uk. today in a statement, the home office said the unacceptable number of people making the dangerous crossings is placing an unprecedented strain on our asylum system . strain on our asylum system. meanwhile, gb news can confirm that the authorities have recovered an unmanned border

force drone from the english channel based out of lydd airport in kent. it had been monitoring channel migrants when it suffered a technical failure and plunged into the water. now the number of people waiting to start routine hospital treatment in england has reached a new record high. nhs england found over 7.5 million people were waiting to start treatment at the end of june. that's the highest number since two thousand and seven. cutting, waiting lists is another of rishi sunak key priorities for 2023. the shadow health secretary, wes streeting, says the government hasn't done enough. >> there's no doubt that the strikes we're seeing in the nhs are seeing huge numbers of appointments cancelled and operations delayed . this is operations delayed. this is disruption that doctors don't want and patients can't afford and that's why it's unforgivable that the prime minister is completely absent , failing to completely absent, failing to show any leadership whatsoever over the most important thing

rishi sunak could be doing right now is to get doctors around the table and negotiate an end to these strikes . these strikes. >> nicola sturgeon has defended her government's use of taxpayers money on travel upgrades. scotland's former first minister says the spending probably totalled less than just one flight by prime minister rishi sunak in a private jet last week. it was revealed that more than £14 million had been spentin more than £14 million had been spent in three years, including £10,000 on vip airport upgrades . as her successor humza yousaf has ordered a review of scottish government bank card spending by civil servants . the high street civil servants. the high street chain wilko has collapsed . the chain wilko has collapsed. the company has appointed administrators after failing to secure a rescue deal, putting around 12,000 jobs at risk. the chain has been unable to find emergency investors to save its 400 shops across the uk . its 400 shops across the uk. its chief executive says the retailer was left with no choice but to enter into administration

after leaving no stone unturned in efforts to revive the business. it's now the home secretary has said today anyone who took part in suspected looting on london's oxford street yesterday , they must be street yesterday, they must be hunted down and locked up. nine people were arrested as police wielding batons clashed with dozens of youngsters. it followed posts on social media, on tiktok, encouraging people to steal from a well known sports store. some outlets shut their doors as crowds gathered and officers issued 34 dispersal notices . suella braverman notices. suella braverman likened it to lawlessness seen in american cities . and lastly, in american cities. and lastly, wild fires in hawaii have killed at least 36 people and forced thousands more to leave their homes. the blazes have devastated much of the resort city of lahaina on the island of maui, forcing people to jump sometimes into the ocean to escape smoke and flames.

sometimes into the ocean to escape smoke and flames . entire escape smoke and flames. entire neighbourhoods have been burned to the ground as winds from an adjacent hurricane fan . the flat adjacent hurricane fan. the flat fires you with gb news across the uk on your tv , in your car, the uk on your tv, in your car, on your digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news now back to . play gb news now back to. patrick wow . patrick wow. >> well, welcome to the illegal migration special hour. on the day that we reached a major, if not slightly grim milestone, more than 100,000 people have now crossed the channel in small boats, 11 dinghies have arrived in dover today alone, carrying more than 500 people, which, yes , as we all know, is more than the capacity of the bibby stockholm. the landmark has been reached what's been reached during what's been branded government's branded by the government's small boats week, believe it or not. presumably that is some kind of them the kind of celebration of them the way they've handling kind of celebration of them the wa but they've handling kind of celebration of them the wa but it they've handling kind of celebration of them the wa but it comese handling kind of celebration of them the wa but it comes just handling kind of celebration of them the wa but it comes just three dling kind of celebration of them the wa but it comes just three days it. but it comes just three days after first migrants boarded after the first migrants boarded up barge, which up bibby stockholm barge, which is part of rishi sunak's, plan to stop the boats. well, i'm

joined initially by gb news home security editor mark white and our very own nigel farage. look, mark, i've got to start with you. if that's all right. in terms of the facts of the day today. so we have had 500 plus arrivals this day alone . some arrivals on this day alone. some issues, course, with a border issues, of course, with a border force boat and indeed a border force boat and indeed a border force drone . it's farce. force drone. it's a farce. >> yeah. multiple issues. i mean, it's hard to think that a day of such a landmark figure being reached that it would be overshadowed by other events. but it seems to have been with a very significant number of small boats coming across the channel and it seems that border force, from what i could see, were overwhelmed for a time . quite overwhelmed for a time. quite why? i don't know, because we knew , too, that a good day was knew, too, that a good day was coming up, that the channel migrants hadn't been able to come across in their small boats for the past five days because of weather. so there was of the weather. so there was always going to be an influx in the far, at least 11 the end. so far, at least 11 small boats, 550 people have

crossed . but during the course crossed. but during the course of that day , we had one of the of that day, we had one of the border force vessels , volunteer border force vessels, volunteer catamaran that's normally zipping around , picking them up zipping around, picking them up and taking them to dover. but broke down lifeboats had to be called out to sort of take on that donkey work, if you like, while they were out. then there was an emergence with apparently a number of migrants reported in the water, four lifeboats off to that, and then taking those people to dover as well. and then we had this drone , this then we had this drone, this multi—million pound border force drone based out of lydd airport in kent, suffering some kind of a malfunction, which ended up with it ditching in the english channel quite why, we don't know. but what i'm told is that that drone has been recovered. now whether it's at all salvageable or we don't know, but it just seems to have been almost farcical what was going on in the. >> yeah, absolutely. and nigel,

i want to bring you in on this because is there is some quite staggering detail about what you're calling essentially carry on yeah, on up the channel. yeah, absolutely . absolutely. >> the first rule of >> i mean, the first rule of seafarers is when in in seafarers is when you're in in port because of bad weather, that's the time you do all the work on the engines and the boats when the good work on the engines and the boats comes, 1en the good work on the engines and the boats comes, you're good work on the engines and the boats comes, you're ready to weather comes, you're ready to go. that clearly hadn't been done broke done because volunteer broke down. but it wasn't just that volunteer broke down. where were border because we had the border force? because we had the ramsgate lifeboat out . we had ramsgate lifeboat out. we had the dover lifeboat out. we had the dover lifeboat out. we had the lifeboat out and the dungeness lifeboat out and the dungeness lifeboat out and the inflatable from littlestone . so literally every lifeboat in the whole of that part of kent was out doing a job. they should be there for emergencies . they be there for emergencies. they should be there for backup . they should be there for backup. they should be there for backup. they should not be there to substitute for what border force should where should be doing. so where the hell were border as for hell were border force? as for the drone, well, you've seen those pictures of boris johnson at lydd airport with that little drone. actually see the drone. but actually see the drone. but actually see the drone they use normally is about 5 or 6 times the size of that.

it's as big as an aeroplane. so it's as big as an aeroplane. so i don't know which of the drones has crashed, but i suspect it's the big one that's gone down and they're been they're telling us it's been recovered. we'll have to recovered. well, we'll have to see about that. >> when those first boats started across, nigel, started coming across, nigel, did we be did you think that we would be here today? >> i went. started >> so i went. i started doing the films, the youtubes in april 2020, and i went into the channelin 2020, and i went into the channel in may 2020, and i began to understand that basically nobody that came illegally was being deported. and i said at the time , you might as well put the time, you might as well put a on the white of a sign on the white cliffs of doven a sign on the white cliffs of dover. welcome home. dover. everybody welcome home. and i said this was going be and i said this was going to be huge. was i've been mocked huge. and i was i've been mocked and sunday times, and derided by the sunday times, the bbc. what a sad, desperate figure . i can't i've been right. figure. i can't i've been right. i hate to say i told you so, but it did. and there's no sign of it did. and there's no sign of it stopping. it's been pretty clear labour have no plans clear that labour have no plans whatsoever than going for whatsoever other than going for the criminal trafficking gangs. do what? you could do you know what? you could bnng do you know what? you could bring penalty for do you know what? you could bring gangs. penalty for do you know what? you could bring gangs. people analty for do you know what? you could bring gangs. people would for do you know what? you could bring gangs. people would still those gangs. people would still do of money at do it. the sums of money at stake are so large. and as for the conservatives, well, they're all place on it. i

all over the place on it. i thought it was interesting , thought it was interesting, actually, know, lee actually, that, you know, lee anderson said what he said, and i advised to use the f i wasn't advised to use the f word, but the basic sentiment that anderson expressed go back to what you'd find in to france is what you'd find in every tonight. every bar at 6:00 tonight. everywhere in the country. and then sort of robert jenrick saying, how dare you say our policy is failing ? well, it's policy is failing? well, it's not exactly working, is it? so there debate kicked off there is now a debate kicked off around echr believe ridley and probably the conservatives would go into the next election making some sort of pledge about our relationship with that court , relationship with that court, but i doubt they'll mean it. well just talk to me a bit about what that mean then in what that would mean then in terms the echr, terms of leaving the echr, because the kind of thing because it is the kind of thing that every and again. >> but i mean, what is it going to have to some serious to have to take some serious action? truth action? i mean, truth is, patrick, this be patrick, i wanted this to be part of european union part of our european union brexit deal. >> it seemed to me leaving foreign european foreign courts, european courts was but difficult to was part of it. but difficult to see our parliament ever voting for it . it's a see our parliament ever voting for it. it's a very much minority position within the conservative party as indeed

leaving the european union was , leaving the european union was, as you know, if it was a referendum . um, i think i think referendum. um, i think i think my side of it would win far bigger than 5248. i'm certain of that. bigger than 5248. i'm certain of that . but you've got to remember that. but you've got to remember the sunak government's in trouble. the conservative party has never been about principle. it's always been about power. and they may well get forced into a position where they do offer something like it's offer something like this. it's worth isn't just worth remembering it isn't just the court that exercise is people, because most of them aren't even legally qualified. their jurists not judges. but the real point is this it was the real point is this it was the 1998 incorporation of the convention motion into british law by the blair government, and that's what judges in the uk are using in case after case. and that's why from boris all the way through now to rishi sunak, suella braverman, home secretary, they tear their hair out at what they call lefty lawyers, but all lefty lawyers are doing is using legislation that's been enshrined in british law. so it's about getting to the root of this . it's about

the root of this. it's about getting the root of what the getting to the root of what the convention person actually says. it's interpretation british it's interpretation in british law , it took us ten years to law, it took us ten years to remove abu qatada, ten years us to get rid of that man because of various human rights claims. so but oddly, despite the lack of sincerity, there is actually an there is actually an electoral opportunity for the conservatives here. if they're bold enough to pick it up. yeah, 100% there are. >> and there's multiple different things that if they just put to a referendum, they would get results they would get the results that they actually or actually wanted or not necessarily. the results they wanted. but the voice of the british be heard as british people would be heard as it british people would be heard as h been british people would be heard as it been done general it has been done at general elections be done. elections, as it would be done. of course, the opinion polls of course, in the opinion polls all the time as well. and the all the time as well. and if the conservative party don't necessarily to necessarily have the guts to actually because they'd actually do it because they'd be worried seen the worried about being seen as the bad guys, they could actually pushit bad guys, they could actually push it on to the people. well, here's just here's a vote. oh well, just what you want, patrick. >> think of a when >> i can't think of a time when on a whole raft of issues where pitminster was actually all the parties in westminster where so

out kilter with the public, out of kilter with the public, a referendum on leave migration, let alone illegal migration, would produce very different policies to now a referendum on the implementation and cost of net zero as opposed to the principle would produce a very different result . but i'm afraid different result. but i'm afraid that's where we are. yeah and those of luxury views those are kind of luxury views that people can when that people can have when it comes things net zero, comes to things like net zero, when it comes to things like mass when it comes to things like ma but are not the >> but those are not the luxuries are afforded to luxuries that are afforded to the and on the the average man and woman on the street. often who are street. all too often who are beanng street. all too often who are bearing the brunt of this bearing down the brunt of this mark, to bring you mark, just to just to bring you back it here, obviously, back in on it here, obviously, it's busy day it's been an incredibly busy day in the channel. we're expecting it to be going it to continue to be busy going forward, are there's no sign forward, are we? there's no sign of break anytime soon. of a break anytime soon. >> told border force >> well, i'm told border force are on alert for it to be busy this evening. so whether they were caught on the hop earlier today or they just decide that they wouldn't turn up for work, i don't know what it was, but they will be there this evening and they may well be called into action because i think nigel,

i'm right that after sort of early morning to morning, so high tide tonight, high tide tonight , high tide tonight, high tide tonight, about 7:00 uk time in france , that's the easiest time france, that's the easiest time to run through the dunes to launch a boat because the french did stop a load of boats this morning, right? >> yeah. the did stop >> yeah. the french did stop a load this morning. load of boats. this morning. but, mean, how you how do but, i mean, how do you how do you patrol miles beach? you patrol 60 miles of beach? it's very difficult it's a very difficult thing to do. tonight, high do. so about 7:00 tonight, high tide speeds down two tide wind speeds down to two knots. crossing knots. perfect crossing conditions. late morning conditions. and by late morning tomorrow, it's puffing back up conditions. and by late morning t0|about/, it's puffing back up conditions. and by late morning t0|about15t's puffing back up conditions. and by late morning t0|about 15 knots. fing back up conditions. and by late morning t0|about 15 knots. soi back up conditions. and by late morning t0|about 15 knots. so i)ack up conditions. and by late morning t0|about 15 knots. so i thinkip to about 15 knots. so i think there'll be a lot of boats come tonight and the government says that last year that the french last year stopped 33,000 migrants from getting on these boats. >> and across the channel. the difficulty is, of course , you do difficulty is, of course, you do that. and it's just like the clandestine. so it used to be known as in the back of the lorries. all they do is they go away, regroup, and they come back another day with back and try another day with another only costs back and try another day with ano people only costs back and try another day with ano people smugglersy costs back and try another day with ano people smugglers about; the people smugglers about £1,000. same people £1,000. and those same people smugglers get about £250,000 for a boat load of people .

a boat load of people. >> it was interesting, nigel. i spoke to a swedish mep a little bit earlier on who was saying that there is of course this trope that britain treats migrants than anywhere migrants better than anywhere else, which is part of the reason a lot of them want to reason why a lot of them want to come here. he did also say, though, that in sweden and throughout though, that in sweden and throtdon't: though, that in sweden and throtdon't appear to have they don't appear to have anything like the problem with the that we the legal profession that we have here. well, the point about law, of course, always is interpretation from from from a police officer making an arrest all the way through to a judge advising a jury on on what to do with convictions . with convictions. >> law is law is always about interpretation. and it may well be it may well be that british lawyers in the main and judges are very , very pro eu, very , are very, very pro eu, very, very pro globalist. but that's not the point. the point is , if not the point. the point is, if we didn't have the human rights act, if we didn't have the echr in enshrined in the british law, they wouldn't be able to. >> just quickly, before i just get us what's what's get you to tell us what's what's coming on your show tonight, coming up on your show tonight, which i imagine will be must

which i imagine will be a must watch, angry watch, but do you ever get angry about what britain has become now ? now? >> i get angry about what it's becoming, and i have great fears for its future. and you mentioned sweden a moment ago. i don't cities don't want to see our cities like know . you i like malmo know. you know, i mean, a port. i used to mean, malmo, a port. i used to do business there in the 80s and 90s with my, you know, my old career shipping copper and aluminium in and out of that port. now it's the rape capital of europe. it's number two on murder in europe . of europe. it's number two on murder in europe. i of europe. it's number two on murder in europe . i mean, the murder in europe. i mean, the whole thing is being completely changed by large influx of young men from entirely different cultures with a different attitude and equally quite a lot of people there who perhaps have been fighting in syrian wars and whatever been very whatever and have been very seriously damaged by it. i don't want to see us become that. and it me. it worries me. >> very grateful >> always very grateful for your time. i you've time. now because i know you've got but what are you got a lot on, but what are you going to be doing later? >> well, obviously channel, >> well, obviously the channel, but ever heard but becker. becker. ever heard of no one has, you know, of it? no no one has, you know, cuts to be certified cuts bank proud to be certified by forget by becker. this is forget stonewall. just stonewall. they're just beginners. becker are

beginners. becker becker are the ones. beginners. becker becker are the ones . they're from america. ones. they're from america. they're linked to the wef. they're linked to the wef. they're heavily funded, and they are the ones effectively bullying companies into the employment policies that mean our big banks and many other institutions now appoint people not on merit , institutions now appoint people not on merit, but on whatever their ethnicity, gender, specifica ation is. if you think about it, actually , it's about it, actually, it's incredibly discriminatory against white people. >> it's arguably racist . >> it's arguably racist. >> it's arguably racist. >> what arguably is so a big, deep dive into a subject that, you know, my viewers would never have heard of before, but just you wait by the middle of next week, all the press will be running exactly. running it. yeah exactly. >> yes. you will be >> exactly. yes. you will be leading way again, leading the way yet again, nigel. no nigel, thank very, nigel. no nigel, thank you very, very sure you tune very much. make sure you tune in. well. in. mark white as well. fantastic mark white fantastic stuff. mark white there, security editor. fantastic stuff. mark white there, okay security editor. fantastic stuff. mark white there, okay all security editor. fantastic stuff. mark white there, okay all action. y editor. fantastic stuff. mark white there, okay all action. y ed home right. okay all action. the home office, has reacted office, of course, has reacted to milestone the to today's milestone in the channel issuing following channel by issuing the following statement. channel by issuing the following stateme of people risking their number of people risking their lives by making these dangerous crossings is placing an unprecedented on our unprecedented strain on our asylum system that's not nigel's

not buying it . asylum system that's not nigel's not buying it. our asylum system that's not nigel's not buying it . our priority, our not buying it. our priority, our priority is to stop the boats and our small boats. operational command is working alongside our french partners and other agencies to disrupt the people smugglers. there's one more. nigel jolly. well done. the government going even further government is going even further through our illegal migration act, which will mean that people arriving the uk illegally arriving in the uk illegally are detained removed to detained and promptly removed to their country of origin or a safe third country. >> i think it's time for a cup of tea. right. >> well, on that note, we've had quite enough your time, quite enough of your time, nigel. you've got loads more of this our website, this story on our website, gbnews.com fastest growing site in the country. a big opinion breaking the breaking news. you all know the drill by now. when i come back, of course, will discussing of course, we will be discussing whether is time to whether or not it is time to pull out echr. with who? pull out of the echr. with who? yes sir. bill yes that's right, sir. bill cash. he's going to be giving us his christys his thoughts. patrick christys on news on gb news britain's news channel. a cup of tea. channel. time for a cup of tea. earlier on gb news radio

britain's news. channel welcome back. >> one story in town certainly for this hour, at least, with the 100,000 channel migrants now crossing and welcomed into britain , rolling out the red britain, rolling out the red carpet, it should have been a 21 gun salute. and a brass band playing as well. why not? everything else seems to be happening. joined now by conservative bill cash . conservative mp sir bill cash. sir, you very much. sir, bill, thank you very much. great have you on the show. great to have you on the show. look, what's going to go on with the thing. now the echr this is the thing. now that are saying there's that people are saying there's going us to going to be pressure on us to leave echr, don't we put leave the echr, why don't we put it a referendum?

it to a referendum? >> well, can i say , first of >> well, can i say, first of all, i put down the all, that i put down the amendment about three years ago to then borders bill, which to the then borders bill, which would have overridden the whole of the echr . of the echr. >> can you hear me all right? >> can you hear me all right? >> i've got you, bill. >> i've got you, bill. >> yes, i'm glued to you. every word. carry on. >> yeah, that's right. >> yeah, that's right. >> so put down this amendment which said that we were going to deal with the asylum seekers , deal with the asylum seekers, those who are not refugees. >> that is the key issue . if >> that is the key issue. if they're genuine refugees , it's they're genuine refugees, it's a different story . if you're different story. if you're deaung different story. if you're dealing with people who are economic migrants and a vast proportion of them are, then you simply can't, in my opinion , and simply can't, in my opinion, and i've said this for years and years and years, i voted against the human rights act back in 1998. and i can tell you that i've always known in my in my opinion , it would lead to this opinion, it would lead to this kind of situation . and the kind of situation. and the trouble is that the courts have now been given the power to make decisions which are essentially

political ones. and although i'm very much in favour of the idea of human rights for people who actually need to be protected, that's one thing. but not economic migrants , why are economic migrants, why are people like you not listened to as much as arguably they should be? >> because, bill, if you look at all the opinion polls and if you look at the way that people have been voting now for a heck of a long time, the vast majority of british have been fearful british people have been fearful and worried that today would come a day like this would come a situation like this would come. and they have been shouting at our politicians to make it stop, and they haven't . make it stop, and they haven't. but you've been shouting as well . so why haven't you been listening to . listening to. >> well, the short answer is that actually i have been listened to, but the extent to which the problem has accelerated and got worse is something which requires more drastic action. and what's happenedis drastic action. and what's happened is that the government have now brought in another

proposal , have now brought in another proposal, another bill. it's been ravaged in the house of lords , which i thought was a lords, which i thought was a disgrace, but actually for practical purposes it eventually went through and that was good because we had a big enough majority and the home secretary is very much on our side. majority and the home secretary is very much on our side . the is very much on our side. the difficulty that we've got is that the number of people who are coming over appear to be just increasing . and it's not just increasing. and it's not just increasing. and it's not just increasing. and it's not just in this country. i think this is a point that really has to be made. you heard about the tragedy that took place in italy yesterday . this tragedy that took place in italy yesterday. this is tragedy that took place in italy yesterday . this is the tragedy that took place in italy yesterday. this is the figures in italy, believe it or not, even worse than ours. and the bottom line is this is a an issue which the european union, but also in particular the european court of human rights, the european convention on human rights has got to be changed. if it's not changed, we are going to get this situation accelerating and becoming even worse than it is. but what i want to do and i'm waiting for

the supreme court to make its decision on because at the moment it's in the courts , moment it's in the courts, because there have been a lot of lawyers, many of whom i'm afraid have been cheating. we know about this from from the reports . and no one's denying the fact that this is the case, but it's in the supreme court now. and i do sincerely trust that the supreme court judges are thinking and very carefully about what the consequences would be if they were to say that they did not uphold the bill. the act, which has now been passed in parliament, which happened a few months ago . happened a few months ago. >> do you think we are ready? yeah do you think that we are at a point that, sir bill, where not just ourselves, but european countries are under viably going to have to ask themselves and then answer this question , which then answer this question, which is, do you want europe to continue to look and feel european in the future ? because

european in the future? because if you do, then you're going to have to start stopping things at source. and some of that will look like stopping things at italy. some of that will look like stopping people getting into we will have to into greece. and we will have to try to that because try to stop that because otherwise think , frankly, otherwise i think, frankly, things to change things are going to change forever aren't they? things are going to change forewell,aren't they? things are going to change forewell, i'en't they? things are going to change forewell, i know1ey? things are going to change forewell, i know that robert >> well, i know that robert jenrick said he's going to jenrick has said he's going to do whatever it takes, and i know that suella braverman takes a similar view. and it's it is appalling that we've got these numbers as we've got them at the moment. they've got to come down. and i personally also believe that you've got to make a legal distinction enforceable in the courts, notwithstanding the human rights act and the european convention on human rights, which says when a person has been declared to be an asylum seeker, if they are genuine refugees, that is one thing. if they're not out, then the bottom line is terribly simple and that is you are an illegal economic migrant and you

cannot and must not be given the kind of treatment that the protection that are being afforded to them at the moment . afforded to them at the moment. it all depends on this act of parliament which is going through at the moment. but if it's gone through at the moment , it's up to the , actually it's up to the supreme court now to make the right decision . right decision. >> am fed up of reading >> i am i am fed up of reading out the same pre—prepared home office statement. i don't think this is by the way, the fault of our home secretary. i think this is just this is just way it is just this is just the way it is. i've reading is. right. and i've reading out the about much we the same thing about how much we care and how of priority care and how much of a priority it jenrick , which it all is. robert jenrick, which i'm means well, but you i'm sure he means well, but you know, it's the same stuff, right? he wants right? and he says he wants to do he can within do everything he can within his powers. people will be powers. some people will be shouting theirtelevision shouting at their television screen well, hang on screen saying, well, hang on a minute, don't start minute, why don't you start towing back? that's towing the boats back? that's another course. but another question, of course. but i want your take i just want your take on something while got something quickly while i've got you, right. and you, if that's all right. and that diane abbott. now, this that is diane abbott. now, this lady was the shadow home secretary for four years, which is a remarkable figure, especially considering her views

on a variety of things. but it does also appear to be that she is of the mindset that every single person trying to get to britain is indeed in need of asylum. they are genuinely fleeing. does that view still, still, still, still seep through to the labour party as a whole, do you think? because if it does , that should be a concern for people at the next election? >> quite agree with >> well, i quite agree with that. people in the that. there are people in the labour party who are absolutely determined to have what is called a universal entry and they cannot be allowed to do that. it's got to be stopped . that. it's got to be stopped. and the only way you can stop it is by legislation and in my opinion, you need to have it as strong as possible. i prefer the word notwithstanding the european community, the notwist standing, the human rights act, and notwithstanding the european convention on human rights, this is what my amendment said before, because that has the effect overriding the courts effect of overriding the courts in the or certainly giving the courts an instruction from

parliament, which they can't ignore . ignore. >> well, look, thank you. absolute pleasure. i really appreciate you making the time for us. take care. >> hear about this. and i know that a lot of people are very concerned and i'm doing everything in my power. and so my friends, well, good for you. >> thank you very much, sir. bill cash there. conservative mp . right. okay. loads more still to come between now and 6:00. is it time that we left the echr? we'll be ramping all of that up as well as at some of as well as looking at some of the disasters that have as well as looking at some of the place sasters that have as well as looking at some of the place when s that have as well as looking at some of the place when itthat have as well as looking at some of the place when it comesve as well as looking at some of the place when it comes to taken place when it comes to border force today. but polly middlehurst now with your middlehurst is up now with your headunes. headlines. >> patrick, thank you. the top stories, the police service of northern ireland says dissident republicans claim to be in possession of officers information. chief constable simon byrne saying this morning he is deeply sorry for the industrial scale breach after psni mistakenly shared details of 10,000 members of staff on tuesday. he says the service is

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where they have been a brighter outlook with boxt solar >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> well, it's the top story i make no apologies for that. this will be the defining topic of our time and indeed this country's future. more than 100,000 migrants crossed in 100,000 migrants have crossed in small across the channel small boats across the channel just today alone , 11 dinghies just today alone, 11 dinghies carrying 550 people arrived in dover last year. it was ruled that the rwanda plan was unlawful . under the european unlawful. under the european convention on human rights. the government this government, anyway, has bet the house on rwanda , bearing in mind that the rwanda, bearing in mind that the capacity for some people in to rwanda is actually not that high. so it has to work as a short, sharp deterrent. but it has reopened the debate about whether or not we should quit the echr we've covered a lot today. we've spoken about the legalities as to whether or not

we can turn boats back. we have spoken, of course, about how many people have absconded from hotels. we've spoken about how our european friends treat asylum seekers versus us. it is now time to get stuck into whether or not we could actually leave the echr what would that look like? how would we do it ? look like? how would we do it? i'm joined now by barrister ryan carter and housewife's favourite. it's stephen barrett. thank you very much , stephen. thank you very much, stephen. could we leave the echr? how could we do it? what would happen ? happen? >> this is a really easy question because the short answer is yes. >> and within our constitution the answer is always yes . the answer is always yes. >> and ever since we left the eu , the answer has been yes. >> and even when we were inside the eu, the answer was yes, although it was more slightly more complicated. >> is not here to block >> law is not here to block policies. the public want or that politicians want that is not our job. what happened is not ourjob. what happened is a certain branch of law that when i was little, when i was young , i was little, when i was young, i was little, when i was young, i was little, when i was young, i was taught it as an

administrative law. that was its title. it was it was admin and it was about dotting i's and crossing t's and judges, making sure that politicians had had enacted the policy in a way that fit within the legal system, didn't cause any issues with with the general operation of the machine. if you like. and it's morphed into something it now calls itself public law, and it takes itself terribly seriously. and it really likes to tell politicians and journalists that they can't do things . and that's just wrong . things. and that's just wrong. so we are perfectly free. there are two difficulties that i can see if we do want to leave the echr, but i'll start with the easiest one if you want. yeah that's the trade and cooperation agreement with the eu. there are promises in that that we will uphold human rights. now if you can't get the uk to my job as a barrister and actually had this earlier, i got a case in and i wrongly thought i was for one side and was going through all the evidence thinking, well, i'll this and i'll this

i'll do this and i'll do this and i might win. this might be a good point. and about good point. and then about halfway through realised halfway through i realised actually other side. actually was for the other side. so then just instantly switched actually was for the other side. so tturnedt instantly switched actually was for the other side. so tturnedt inst pin.y switched actually was for the other side. so tturnedt inst pin.y swi'nowi and turned on a pin. and now i'll and this how i'll win this and this is how i'll win this and this is how i'll this. that's i'll win for this. and that's what, that's what i consider a proper lawyer does. you do what your client wants. so any international is international lawyer who is acting or acting in acting for the uk or acting in the uk's could the uk's interest could definitely get us out of the echr without breaching the trade and cooperation agreement with the not of all because the eu, not least of all because the eu, not least of all because the is currently massive the is currently in massive breach of that section itself. it's got something called the rule of law crisis and it's being and it's being held responsible for nearly well over 100,000 deaths of migrants because of how the eu is responding to the crisis. i'm glad to see other other people on your show pointed out it is it's an international crisis and the eu's response to it is so bad that it is characterised as human rights abuse. it's been criticised by the un. so the idea that the eu isn't in breach of bit of the dci is of this, this bit of the dci is completely for the birds. but but a competent lawyer could easily of the eu and

easily get us out of the eu and maintain the. the other one is the good friday agreement . and the good friday agreement. and again the wording of the just just think about it logically. the good friday agreement is a treaty, but it's an international it's an act of diplomacy. so the wording is incredibly woolly. it's not like when i draft a contract . it's when i draft a contract. it's really quite vague . and the main really quite vague. and the main point of it was not to keep everybody in the echr . the main everybody in the echr. the main point of it was to bring peace and reconciliation to northern ireland. so they weren't at the time in the 90s sort of thinking, oh, we'll need this in future to keep everybody inside the echr again , a basically the echr again, a basically competent international lawyer could get us out of the echr without harming the northern ireland. the good friday agreement in any way. so those are the only two real obstacles as law, and i think they both fall. >> and would it be wrong to say that by pulling out of the echr britain is running a risk of

damaging human rights, do we have to be any worse at protecting human rights if we're out of the echr? or can we just do things differently ? do things differently? >> we can. we can do things differently and do them here. it's 14 years ago since the promised in its treaty that it would join the echr and it's never fulfilled that promise. so if anybody's harming human rights by not joining the echr, it's the eu because they've been ignonng it's the eu because they've been ignoring their obligation to join and they won't join it for very sensible reasons. they think that it interferes with their sovereignty. well, it does interfere your sovereignty their sovereignty. well, it does inteiit'se your sovereignty their sovereignty. well, it does inteiit's important sovereignty their sovereignty. well, it does inteiit's important to ivereignty their sovereignty. well, it does inteiit's important to look,]nty and it's important to look, because i'm not on here telling you to leave the echr . that's you to leave the echr. that's not my job and my role. i do not adopt a policy position. i'll tell you you think it's tell you that you can think it's important analyse the court important to analyse the court for competence . look for its basic competence. look at these judges and who and who they are. there are 46 of them. one of is from san marino . one of them is from san marino. a marino a total a san marino has a total population of 35,000 people. what why is the united kingdom

benefiting from this judge when and you saw it? it's utter incompetence at work over the rwanda plan because it didn't the united kingdom government, when it issued that injunction, which, by the way, don't think it has the right issue it has the right to issue injunctions, but another injunctions, but that's another another it another story. but when it issued that injunction, it it didn't let the uk government say anything. the uk government wasn't told in advance. they weren't in the courtroom. that's just incompetence. i'm just basic incompetence. if i'm running court i'm to running a court and i'm going to issue injunction against the issue an injunction against the government, going have government, it's going to have massive might them to turn massive i might ask them to turn up or least tell them that up or at least tell them that i'm going to do it. just vague, vague competence. they didn't tell of judge vague competence. they didn't tell quite of judge vague competence. they didn't tell quite rightly, of judge vague competence. they didn't tell quite rightly, if judge vague competence. they didn't tell quite rightly, i mean,idge vague competence. they didn't tell quite rightly, i mean, ofe and quite rightly, i mean, of course took them six months course it took them six months to get rid of the russian judge. so immediately to get rid of the russian judge. so it's immediately to get rid of the russian judge. so it's the mediately to get rid of the russian judge. so it's the mediateljudge. suspects it's the russian judge. and are there are nations and there are there are nations i mean, you only need to look at how the uk fares in eurovision to then do a cross—sectional analysis of the nationality of these judges and go, do you really want them with ultimate control of your legal system ? control of your legal system? >> we've turned our legal system

into eurovision. i love that. i love that analogy. we've turned, we've turned. we've decided that our legal system has to be judged in the same way that eurovision judged. we've seen eurovision is judged. we've seen how well that's gone for us. apart from the one year that we were robbed by ukraine. but we're allowed that we're not allowed to say that because of in ukraine. because of the war in ukraine. but were robbed by ukraine but we were robbed by ukraine and we've decided we and now we've decided that we want our asylum want to have our our asylum policy drawn stephen, policy drawn up by. stephen, thank very , very much thank you very, very much as even thank you very, very much as ever. absolute delight. stephen barrett barrister writer barrett there. barrister writer for the spectator . and i'll say for the spectator. and i'll say it again, housewives favourite . it again, housewives favourite. now big day in the migrant now on a big day in the migrant crisis. you couldn't crisis. in case you couldn't tell, i'm asking this is the church of england actually making things worse? patrick christys on gb news,

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on gb news, the people's. channel okay. >> okay. all right. well, look, we know about a fair few back doorways into britain, don't we? we also about way we also know about one way you can kick through can just kick your way through the front door of the english channel and you're allowed to stay indefinitely anyway. but is the england actually the church of england actually aggravating the situation? not only woke clergymen like the only do woke clergymen like the archbishop of canterbury and york incessant speak and vote against government bills to stem the migrants , but the the flow of migrants, but the church has been accused of encouraging illegal immigrants to convert to christianity to help with their asylum claims, including , help with their asylum claims, including, most help with their asylum claims, including , most notably help with their asylum claims, including, most notably in the case of the liverpool maternity hospital bomber, who thankfully only managed to obliterate himself in that blast. but frankly could have actually killed a load of new born babies

. the question marks there were about whether or not he had been allowed to convert to christianity to claim christianity to be able to claim that he would face persecution in country , and in his home country, and therefore couldn't send him therefore we couldn't send him back to queen back. former chaplain to queen elizabeth ii dr. gavin ashenden joins me now to discuss this. gavin, thank you very much. do you that church of you think that the church of england it england is complicit when it comes illegal migration comes to the illegal migration epidemic we're seeing ? epidemic that we're seeing? >> they're certainly not >> well, they're certainly not doing anything help. and the doing anything to help. and the difficulty is that they're using a simple test of you should love your neighbour and treating immigrants as the neighbour. but actually the first neighbour that we have is the neighbour we live amongst. and as we live in a society where we're finding increasing difficulty in looking after the poor and the homeless , we're finding it difficult to find the right enough money for education health. the education and for health. the idea that we can promote unlimited immigration as a religious duty and a moral duty is ethically really very, very narrow minded . and there doesn't narrow minded. and there doesn't seem to be any sense amongst the church leaders that there are

two sides to this. it appears to be a piece of political or cultural myopia . cultural myopia. >> it seems odd to me, though. i can see the side of it, which is that any religion surely feels some form of need to convert people to it and their argument may be that here are a load of people who are who are ripe for the conversion. do you think that's what it is? >> well , you that's what it is? >> well, you could say that if the church of england put a lot of effort and energy into converting people. >> now, some parts of the church certainly do the evangelical part, and there's an excellent program called alpha . but on the program called alpha. but on the whole, the people you're talking about are the political left, and anxious and they're very anxious about conversion normally because they're relativists and they have a very strange view of what christianity is. so i'm afraid when i think the who when i think that the people who are pro—immigration , even when are pro—immigration, even when they're suggesting people they're suggesting that people convert, it looks me more convert, it looks to me more like a political and like it's a political and underhand i'm all underhand strategy. i'm all for people coming to jesus and being christians. >> i think good people

>> i think it's good for people and the world. and good for the world. >> but if it's done as a strategy to increase multiculturalism and immigration, there's immigration, then there's something wrong with that. >> mean, i saw it >> yeah, i mean, i saw it firsthand i was in a church firsthand and i was in a church and that there were quite and i saw that there were quite and i saw that there were quite a few people there who appeared to be residents , and indeed they to be residents, and indeed they were residents of the local migrant hotel. were residents of the local migrant hotel . they were migrant hotel. they were attending that church fairly regularly. there was, of course, a collection for them afterwards as well, which was nice . but the as well, which was nice. but the particular faith leader there was was very keen on letting people know that these people had been brought in to the fold. and of course it does make it quite easy if you happen to be from a part of the world where you can claim that christians are persecuted to essentially be signed off as christian and allowed to stay in. and i just wonder whether or not that is happening to quite a large extent . extent. >> well, let's clear. there's >> well, let's be clear. there's everything right about welcoming people who are who are strangers. there's everything right about trying to help them

become . and the become christians. and the problem if that's problem is, if that's discontinuous from what you normally do, if you're not making exactly the same efforts with your indigenous neighbours to help them come to christ, then becomes not a matter of then it becomes not a matter of spiritual transformation, but a political strategy. and that's when it becomes hypocritical or two faced. and i think what you're suggesting is there's some element of two faced ness in the politicisation action of bringing people to a religious conversion . well, it was conversion. well, it was highlighted. >> yeah. i mean, it was highlighted in the case of the liverpool maternity hospital bomber at the and it bomber at the time. and then it all went quiet. but was all went quite quiet. but it was it was something think it was something that i think was highlighting, noting, was worth highlighting, noting, which there these which is that were there these kind schemes taking kind of underhand schemes taking place which that place essentially, which is that they pro asylum they were very pro asylum seeker, they were very pro allowing stay in the allowing them to stay in the country. they had some kind of moral or philosophical view that our current immigration system and unquote hostile and a quote unquote hostile environment morally wrong environment was morally wrong and therefore the church had a duty or an obligation to try to prevent that where possible. and

if that then crossed the line of allowing people, facilitating people to lie about their religion in to order stay in, and something bad happens and then something bad happens like individual tries to like that individual tries to blow maternity then i blow up a maternity ward, then i would argue that the church would argue that the church would have quite lot to answer would argue that the church w0|there./e quite lot to answer would argue that the church w0|there. i1 quite lot to answer would argue that the church w0|there. i mean, lot to answer would argue that the church w0|there. i mean, do )t to answer would argue that the church w0|there. i mean, do you answer would argue that the church w0|there. i mean, do you thinker for there. i mean, do you think that this may be worthwhile having little look into this having a little look into this stuff, internal stuff, some kind of internal investigation, perhaps? well, i think only think the trouble is you only know happened when it's know that's happened when it's gone you ? gone wrong, don't you? >> you don't know if people are genuinely found genuinely going to have found christ and a life and a new christ and a new life and a new way of being human, which is something to celebrate and quite wonderful and nor know if wonderful and nor do you know if it's whole thing is a it's the whole thing is a political strategy. and actually it's the whole thing is a poliintend rategy. and actually it's the whole thing is a poliintend malice and actually it's the whole thing is a poliintend malice and actually it's the whole thing is a poliintend malice and damage to the intend malice and damage to the intend malice and damage to the to the home country. but i mean the things that we mean one of the things that we have about the fact have to talk about is the fact that amongst the asylum seekers who in, many of them who are coming in, many of them follow religion follow a particular religion and hold towards our culture hold a view towards our culture thatis hold a view towards our culture that is not friendly . and it's that is not friendly. and it's really quite full of antipathy . really quite full of antipathy. and again, it's irresponsible to both encourage and facilitate that when we know very well it's multi—layered and really quite complex and problematic

ethically and spiritually. >> yeah. 100. .gov thank you very much. is always a very much. it is always a pleasure to and hope pleasure to talk to you and hope to chat you again very, very to chat to you again very, very soon. gavin ashenden. soon. it's dr. gavin ashenden. there former chaplain there is the former chaplain to queen second. queen elizabeth. the second. i just highlight just wanted to highlight that and question. wonder and pose the question. i wonder whether or not the church of england helping england is actually helping really, comes the really, when it comes to the asylum seeker crisis? well, i'm very that i'm very pleased to say that i'm joined in the studio now by michelle who will be michelle dewberry, who will be up dewbs& co. how are you? >> i'm good, but there is a potential i might stink the place because i have no idea potential i might stink the pli've because i have no idea potential i might stink the pli've triple cause i have no idea potential i might stink the pli've triple perfumeiave no idea potential i might stink the pli've triple perfume ore no idea potential i might stink the pli've triple perfume or not. idea if i've triple perfume or not. >> you know, you smell this smells an average amount of smells like an average amount of perfume for you. >> does it? i have no >> oh, does it? yes. i have no idea. couldn't remember idea. and i couldn't remember whether or not i'd applied it or not. like, douse not. i had to, like, douse myself in again before entering. it's pleasant amount of it's a pleasant amount of perfume. well perfume. is it? yeah. well that's if ever do that's good. if we ever do progress smellovision, progress to smellovision, everyone will be to share everyone will be able to share in the joy of my scent work. they my aroma. they will anyway , look, i want to get into that whole debacle on oxford street last night . i honestly do not last night. i honestly do not know who these people think they

are . ah. and i just think are. ah. and i just think there's no consequence for it. suella can tweet all you like. i'm going to hunt you down. no, you're not. you're not going to be locking them up. i don't believe i actually think believe it. and i actually think it's now that you bring it's time now that you bring back measures like water cannons it's time now that you bring back knowrres like water cannons it's time now that you bring back knowrres litheyater cannons it's time now that you bring back knowrres lithey do cannons it's time now that you bring back knowrres lithey do ? annons it's time now that you bring back knowrres lithey do ? they1s it's time now that you bring back knowrres lithey do ? they do . you know what they do? they do use them sometimes in northern ireland, but we don't really use them here. i don't think we're allowed. >> they do have water cannons. didn't of water? >> he spent a small fortune. you see, viewers of dewbs& co are know about this the end know all about this by the end of yeah, he spent a of my show. but yeah, he spent a small had to small fortune and then had to basically for scrap. basically sell them for scrap. right? they weren't really right? so they weren't really ever . but when these ever used. but when i see these kind of gangs these yobs , i kind of gangs of these yobs, i just think, you know, if those coppers, instead of watching them on their horseback, if they just kind got their water just kind of got their water cannon quick squirt, cannon out just a quick squirt, that dispersed. that would be them dispersed. >> them dispersed as >> it would be them dispersed as well. absolutely, 100. i long to live in old michelle dewberry live in old in michelle dewberry , where cannons , britain, where water cannons are to disperse crowds. are used to disperse crowds. know any other quick ones? >> i'm telling you now to think twice it. well, there was. twice about it. well, there was. there water cannons.

twice about it. well, there was. the|would water cannons. twice about it. well, there was. the|would think water cannons. twice about it. well, there was. the|would think twice cannons. you would think twice about getting and getting your little mates and trying trainers and trying to rob your trainers and your tracksuits from the sports shop. i was on the dole, shop. if i was on the dole, anyway. yeah. pensions well. anyway. yeah. pensions as well. i get into that well. i want to get into that as well. what's going on there? >> and to look forward >> and lots more to look forward to. forward it. right. to. look forward to it. right. okay. from today. okay. that's it from me today. i will see you tomorrow at 3:00pm. make sure stay news make sure you stay gb news because dewberry is up because michelle dewberry is up next with dewbs& co >> things are heating >> looks like things are heating up. proud up. boxed boilers, proud sponsors weather on . gb news afternoon. >> alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. after a bit of a warmer spell, cooler conditions are on the way for friday and the weekend. it'll feel fresher with a brisk breeze and a mixture of sunshine and showers. and here's the reason why. of pressure why. big area of low pressure and front is pushing and this cold front is pushing in, sweeping away the warmth that's been building up over the past couple of days. it'll still be warm and humid through be pretty warm and humid through this evening and overnight and some heavy rain on that weather front as it crosses northern ireland met ireland means we do have a met office. yellow in place. office. yellow warning in place. some crossing

some heavy rain crossing scotland the early hours scotland through the early hours as well much england. as well for much of england. and wales, few showers, wales, just a few showers, many places dry still pretty warm places dry and still pretty warm overnight , 16 or 17, the low, overnight, 16 or 17, the low, it'll still feel fairly on it'll still feel fairly warm on friday in the sunny spells, but it'll be a fairly wet start across northern scotland and some heavy pulses of rain clearing away here. and then we'll see showers developing through now, some spots through the day. now, some spots may see any showers and stay may not see any showers and stay dry. they'll be pretty well scattered in many areas, but we'll quite few of them we'll see quite a few of them for ireland and western for northern ireland and western scotland, there'll be a fresher feel. back down feel. temperatures back down closer average, still in closer to average, but still in the sunshine. 26 the east with some sunshine. 26 maybe across east anglia , a maybe across east anglia, a little higher than that. so still feeling fairly warm, a fresher feeling weekend, though, with more showers coming in. again, bands of those showers moving through on a fairly brisk wind . again, parts of wind. but again, parts of eastern england probably not seeing of those showers seeing too many of those showers on brisk breeze , on saturday. that brisk breeze, though, will again make it feel fresher temperatures fresher with temperatures back closer they been . closer to where they have been. >> looks like things are heating up . boxed boilers, proud

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none of it, she says . they're none of it, she says. they're going to hunt them down. those responsible and lock them up. yeah. all right. good luck with that. i say it's time now to get tougher when it comes to policing our streets. i want to see a return to things like water cannons. do you agree with me or not? and very sad news for the 12,000 people working at wilco very soon to lose their jobs. wilco very soon to lose their jobs . some people saying it is jobs. some people saying it is just basically the latest decline of an ever declining high street. i say there's more to it than that. it is gross mismanagement, if you ask me some of the things that have been going on. i want a debate on that. and the european court of human rights, we go around this often we? this circle often don't we? but the has been upped because the ante has been upped because as number of people that as the number of people that have the in have crossed the channel in these dinghies this, these dinghies get this, everybody , 100,000 people. everybody, 100,000 people. goodness gracious me, do we need to immediately leave the echr? is that the answer or is that merely a distraction ? and get merely a distraction? and get this pensions , the amount of this pensions, the amount of money that we spend on them in

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