is all about opinion. might and theirs, but most importantly, yours . you're the important yours. you're the important ones, us. we'll be debating, ones, not us. we'll be debating, discussing and at times even disagreeing. although i won't really just agree with you. really i'll just agree with you. probably me the probably and joining me for the next hour is a broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, who looks gorgeous. i really love working lizzie. no, too working with lizzie. no, too she's gorgeous. former labour party adviser adviser matthew lazar. party adviser adviser matthew lazar . and in a few moments, lazar. and in a few moments, i'll be mucking the week with one and only lewis schaefer , who one and only lewis schaefer, who has promised not to eat me despite the fact he's on a raw meat diet . i'm worried. meat diet. i'm worried. right before we get started, let's get the news headlines with a the latest news headlines with a lovely edison . lovely rte edison. >> thanks, dawn. 3:01. our top story , french maritime story, french maritime authorities have confirmed that six migrants have died after a small boat carrying more than 50 got into difficulties in the channel this morning. dover lifeboat and several french vessels have been involved in the operation. about five miles

off the french coast . but off the french coast. but ambulance crews greeted the casualty bodies as they arrived at dover harbour . the casualty bodies as they arrived at dover harbour. the home secretary, suella braverman, saying , my thoughts and prayers saying, my thoughts and prayers are with those affected by the tragic loss of life in the channel. our homeland security editor mark white says the rescue operation continues . rescue operation continues. >> there is a possibility that more people who were thrown into the water are are still out there, still missing . so that there, still missing. so that search is involving, we're told, aerial assets in the form of coast guard helicopters. life boats from both the uk and the french side. and of course, those various patrol boats from france and border force vessels i >> -- >> now, immigration officials have arrested seven people in northern ireland as part of a crackdown on illegal workers, part of the home office's operation tornado two. it was just one of several raids across the uk. included in the arrests

was a female chinese national at a restaurant in county down and a restaurant in county down and a second chinese man was allowed to volunteer to return to the repubuc to volunteer to return to the republic of ireland . takeaways republic of ireland. takeaways owner now faces a fine of up to £20,000. uk spending on pothole repairs is among the most severely cut of 13 nations. that's according to new research. the local government association says that annual expenditure fell from £4 billion in 2006 to 2,000,000,000 in 2019. only italy and ireland have seen bigger percentage cuts. the lga is now urging political parties to commit to a ten year programme to boost funding. mark morrell is a campaigner known as mr pothole . campaigner known as mr pothole. he told us the latest figures show spending has fallen further still up until 2019, there was a you know, only investing 51% of what we should have done compared to 2006. >> but that's even worse because that 2019 figure doesn't equate

to what currently spend is 1.36 billion. >> and if you include inflation, we're spending . 25% of what we we're spending. 25% of what we were in 2006 on maintaining our roads . roads. >> maui county have confirmed up to 80 people have died and hundreds more are reported missing due to the wildfires engulfing the hawaiian island . engulfing the hawaiian island. fresh evacuations are underway as flames forge towards the town of kaanapali . residents from of kaanapali. residents from nearby islands have loaded recreational boats and jet skis to bring supplies to those in emergency shelters . hawaii's emergency shelters. hawaii's attorney general is calling for attorney general is calling for a comprehensive review into how authorities responded to the blaze . england have beaten blaze. england have beaten colombia 2—1 to reach the semi—finals of the women's world cup goals from lauren, hemp and alessia russo helped the lionesses come from behind after lacey santos gave colombia the lead they'll now face. co—hosts australia . on the 16th of

australia. on the 16th of august. at. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's return to dawn . news. now let's return to dawn. thank you, ray. >> right. coming up this hour , >> right. coming up this hour, comedian louis schaffer will be making light of this week's top stories in mock the week. can't wait for this one. here's what else is coming up, though, today. tragedy in hawaii with the death toll now at 80. the tranquil hawaiian island of maui has been gutted this week by wildfires . we'll be looking at wildfires. we'll be looking at what's happened and why and it's the policing story that's got everyone talking. this story absolutely fascinates me. aretha, a 16 year old autistic teenager arrested by seven police officers over an allegedly homophobic remark . allegedly homophobic remark. i'll be joined by a former police officer to get the latest on this particular really

worrying story. to be honest with you, at and the end of the houn with you, at and the end of the hour, it's a political spotlight as doctors continue their as junior doctors continue their strikes across england with patients missing appointments and costs rising . are these and costs rising. are these strikes more about politics, though? and we'll be crossing to our home affairs and security editor mark white after six have died and dozens more rescued from a capsized migrant boat in the channel overnight . shocking the channel overnight. shocking story, that one. that's all coming up in the next hour. so tell me what you think on everything we're discussing by emailing gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb tweet me at. gb news. right. it's time for mock the week . it it's time for mock the week. it does feel like it needs some sort of signature tune or something. and as nana loves to say, what a mucky week it's been. does she. oh my god , been. does she. oh my god, that's nana for you. well, let's start with this story about outlaw bandish sawhney

combinations from tuna and pineapple . that's that bad to pineapple. that's that bad to banana mayonnaise. maybe not so much that one. when will this madness end? right welcome. now we have been talking about food non stop, haven't we, louis? now, louis is on one of those diets at the moment. that means he's eating nothing but meat. and i'm on one of those diets pretty much most of the time that eat meat. i eat nothing but vegetables so vegetables and fruit. so you promise not to eat me, don't you? because you're not over keen vegetarians and vegans. keen on vegetarians and vegans. but eat meat. but i eat but you eat meat. but i eat meat. yes. i eat you. we are meat. yes. i eat you. we are meat. meat. you are meat. yes. yeah. you're not going to eat me, you? me, are you? >> know what? you look >> do you know what? you look delicious. delicious. >> do you know what? you look delicioyou. delicious. >> do you know what? you look delicioyou. and delicious. >> do you know what? you look delicioyou. and you?.icious. >> do you know what? you look delicioyou. and you? and|s. >> do you know what? you look delicioyou. and you? and you're thank you. and you? and you're delightful. mean, not? delightful. so, i mean, why not? i not i mean, i think i'm not in favour of cannibalism, but i think probably cannibal. cannibal human beings are. i don't know. i wasn't. we weren't going to discuss this. what is it with. you know, i know what we're talking about. >> sandwiches. just >> sandwiches. actually, i just got that fine. can discuss >> that is fine. you can discuss it, but it's always like you

always it, but it's always like you alway up people. always bring up bring up people. always bring up cannibalism think cannibalism when they think of eating been eating meat. we've been brainwashed against eating our natural well it's a natural diets. well it's a natural diets. well it's a natural diet. is but i'll put a word in for eating human beings. i mean, we're very nutritious, evidently. >> and some of us have got a lot more to eat than us. >> exactly. and there's and there's you've there's if you've got if you've got particular with got a particular problem with a part you should part of your body, you should eat part of the body. okay eat that part of the body. okay >> so you've like a big >> so if you've got like a big bum , then you could actually bum, then you could actually just bum . just eat your own bum. >> to eat, then >> you might want to eat, then you to eat us. an you might want to eat us. an animal that has a small bum. is this getting weird? >> weird. >> this is getting weird. all right, the right, let's talk about the front daily star, front page of the daily star, which sarnie which is the rise of the sarnie psychos. what's about? them psychos. what's that about? them >> well, i think it's about just human nature. i think people think food think that any other food except their is horrific. their own food is horrific. until they convinced that until they are convinced that their food is somebody else's food is better than their food. it's like it's like on on it's like it's like on the on the showing it's like the it's like showing it's like showing beans. it's like basically beans on toast that have made into sandwich. have been made into a sandwich. so know . i have been made into a sandwich. so know. i don't have been made into a sandwich. so know . i don't know so i don't know. i don't know what yeah what is. yeah >> if you're listening on the

radio, front page radio, basically the front page of the daily star is, a of the daily star is, is a mock up three of bread up of like three slices of bread with with raw beans between with with raw beans in between them. toast . it's not them. it's not toast. it's not beans get beans beans on toast. we get beans on toast isn't that just going toast. but isn't that just going toast. but isn't that just going to be mess, lewis? to be a soggy mess, lewis? i mean, that mean, who's going to eat that really think. mean, who's going to eat that reaibut think. mean, who's going to eat that reaibut thiknow what? as an >> but you know what? as an american , came this country american, i came to this country and believe and i couldn't believe that people were were having people were people were having beans. people were people were having beans . on people were people were having beans. on toast people were people were having beans . on toast with beans people were people were having beans. on toast with beans on toast. no, we don't have beans on toast because america is a very rich country and. right. we didn't eat beans on didn't need to eat beans on toast. is emergency food. toast. beans is emergency food. it's the kind of food that poor people eat. if you have people would eat. if you have a choice, you'd beef. choice, you'd have roast beef. you make roast you would have a make a roast beef sandwich. >> you posh kid. >> god, you are posh as a kid. wouldn't know? >> god, you are posh as a kid. woulwas know? >> god, you are posh as a kid. woulwas not know? >> god, you are posh as a kid. woulwas not i;now? >> god, you are posh as a kid. woulwas not i;now not posh as >> i was not i was not posh as a kid. the i was not posh kid. we were the i was not posh as a kid. right. okay. >> well, what were you going to say then? but. okay yeah. would you eat any of this, though ? you eat any of this, though? right. okay. tuna and pineapple . i'll sort of get that. well i don't eat any bread. >> no , me neither. >> no, me neither. >> no, me neither. >> we are the world's worst people. it's like i was trying to remember last sandwich

to remember the last sandwich i actually ate, and i can't remember. >> i mean. mean, >> yeah, i mean. i mean, because bread meat, it, bread isn't raw meat, is it, louis? that's. it's raw louis? no, that's. it's not raw meat. it's carbs meat. it's just it's high carbs . it's low protein. and the beans, i mean, beans is all right, but, you know. you know, do you know something, dawn? five raw kidney beans crushed up can kill you, right? did you know that ? no. people don't know know that? no. people don't know this. that's why they have to cook beans. >> why do they kill you? >> why do they kill you? >> they kill you because they've got of arsenic got all sorts of arsenic and cyanide and all sorts cyanide and toxins and all sorts of. because the plants don't of. and because the plants don't want eat them. we you want us to eat them. we you always animals always worried about animals not wanting , but plants wanting to be eaten, but plants hate eaten they can't hate being eaten and they can't run, hate being eaten and they can't run yeah hate being eaten and they can't runyeah . no, this is true . we're >> yeah. no, this is true. we're actually sticking with food . actually sticking with food. it's a saturday afternoon. we're talking about food . so the next talking about food. so the next story you want to discuss is the death of the vegan. not this one, by the way . not yet. please one, by the way. not yet. please go on. >> well, i mean, i. yeah, i mean, no one's buying vegans, vegan food anymore. they're not buying these. these fake burgers because . because people want

because. because people want honesty in their food. >> but but this is actually based on a factual story, isn't it? i mean, sort of like beyond burgers who you know, burgers who make, you know, beyond meat. they the beyond meat. they sell the veggie you get veggie burgers. you get mcdonald's the sales are mcdonald's and the sales are going through floor. the going through the floor. the company's because company's losing money because people are now turning their nose on processed veggie nose up on processed veggie stuff and going back to eating meat. stop looking at me like you're hungry. i'm getting worried. >> no, i'm not hungry that . worried. >> no, i'm not hungry that. i >> no, i'm not hungry at that. i mean, the idea because it's you know what is, at the end of mean, the idea because it's you kno day,|at is, at the end of mean, the idea because it's you kno day, you is, at the end of mean, the idea because it's you kno day, you can at the end of mean, the idea because it's you kno day, you can get1e end of mean, the idea because it's you kno day, you can get something the day, you can get something real. can an real. well, you can get an actual, why actual, real piece of meat. why would fake piece of would you get a fake piece of meat? it's even meat? yeah and it's not even a piece meat. it's not even. piece of meat. it's not even. and what is? they and you know what it is? they call it's not veggie. call it veggie. it's not veggie. it's beans. it's made it's made with beans. it's made with they're with seeds. it's not. they're not are not not vegetables. seeds are not vegetables cause they're not made with vegetables. and even a vegetable my god, vegetable is not. oh my god, you've me . i know you. you've triggered me. i know you. you i was comedian. you've triggered me. i know you. you iwas comedian. i'm you said i was a comedian. i'm not funny. i've just been. not that funny. i've just been. i've you're hilarious. >> been don't eat me. >> been work >> i've been hearing a work release program anyway, the release program. anyway, the thing when you when you say to somebody say, this is louis schaffer, he's funny. it's like saying , oh, this schaffer, he's funny. it's like saying, oh, this is louis schaffer. he's a great lover.

he's a professional you he's a professional lover. you 90, he's a professional lover. you go, do better than go, look, i could do better than that guy . people aren't buying that guy. people aren't buying it. they're not they're not going to be fooled by this. >> are buying really >> but people are buying really sexy cereal . cereal. thriller. sexy cereal. cereal. thriller. yeah >> do you reckon i know what this is about? >> yes, this is. this is kellogg's that have been accused of sexual izing breakfast. >> did you pick these stories just because of me? yeah, of coui'se. >> course. >> because you said you're a great lover. i didn't say that. you said that. >> this actually >> well, this this actually comes actually comes from. there's actually a love that love related in this, is that the corporation, you the kellogg's corporation, you know, corporation know, the corporation got started . you google anything started. you can google anything that not true, but started. you can google anything thatcan not true, but started. you can google anything thatcan googleiot true, but started. you can google anything thatcan google it.true, but started. you can google anything thatcan google it. and but started. you can google anything thatcan google it. and the you can google it. and the kellogg's corporation got started because it came from a religious organisation. the kellogg's brothers worked for the seventh day adventists , and the seventh day adventists, and they developed this cereal cornflakes to reduce carnality, which comes from carnivore. they wanted people to have a plant based diet to reduce . based diet to reduce. >> you're not making this up. >> you're not making this up. >> you're not making this up. >> you can google it right now.

>> you can google it right now. >> kellogg's is meant to make you cornflakes, make you kellogg's cornflakes, make you kellogg's cornflakes, make you having sex. you stop having sex. >> especially if >> yes, they do, especially if you against your you rub them against your private parts family. >> it's a saturday >> i'm sorry. it's a saturday afternoon, lewis. >> i did say private, but you did . but the point is, is that did. but the point is, is that is that. yes, they were made by the kellogg right to provide an alternative to a meat based breakfast, which which the founders of the religion actually believed this. i think actually believed this. i think actually believed this. i think actually believed caused people to want to have more sex. and she was against having sex. and so the so that the kellogg's corporation was against sex and basically on their cover, they're having pictures of women and men who are . and men who are. >> yeah that's the story getting away from lewis's love life which is evidently very good obviously because he doesn't have cornflakes. he just has raw meat. well that exactly is true. exactly. oh god. there have been a kellogg's accused of a kellogg's been accused of oversexualizing breakfast by having cereal boxes celebrating

pride month and sort of like people like drag queens and things. so. >> well, you have to ask yourself, i know what you're asking. you're why asking. you're asking why are they dawn when all they doing this? dawn when all those other companies, the dylan mulvaney yes. bud light yeah, yeah , yeah, yeah. they're yeah, yeah, yeah. they're saying, why sports bras , right? saying, why sports bras, right? sports, yeah. very bad. you know, and the reaction to it is incredibly negative . and so why incredibly negative. and so why are they continuing to promote this when it's bad for business? and the answer is that they have nothing. it has nothing to do with business. they're trying to make the people who loan them money this money happy. that's all this thing loaning money. these thing is loaning money. these these big money money. >> but why are they using a bloke to sell me a sports bra when he hasn't even got. sorry? someone who identifies as a woman. sorry, shouldn't say. woman. sorry, i shouldn't say. oh, in so much oh, my god, i'm in so much trouble already. she moves swiftly trouble already. she moves swi yeah, no, just. i'll >> yeah, no, i'll just. i'll just your why just answer your question. why would they? they don't. they're not anything not trying to sell you anything . actually . they actually. they actually don't care about selling a product . what they care is they product. what they care is they care about saying, look at our box. it that

box. and they put it that on a form they in to form. when they send it in to the that be. and then the the powers that be. and then the powers esg . powers that be says you're esg. am i about am i right about this? >> signalling >> yeah. virtue signalling really, isn't it cereals? >> even it's not >> but it's not even it's not even signalling. it's even virtue signalling. it's actually virtue for acting. it's just showing. look at how great we are. we've done this. please, please continue to loan us money. >> i'm talking of loaning money. >> i'm talking of loaning money. >> actually , this person might >> actually, this person might need some. oh, seamless link there. mayor sadiq khan there. london mayor sadiq khan tells tradespeople that they should want to scrap old man. this is the ulez story, by the way. we have to do one a day. they should want scrap old they should want to scrap old vans and get ulez compliant replacements it will replacements because it will make them less likely to get asthma. have you ever heard of such twaddle your such patronising twaddle in your entire life? >> how it true they're in >> how is it true they're in there they're saying sell there so they're saying sell your car with the exhaust your own car with the exhaust coming and coming out the back end and you'll get likely to get you'll get less likely to get asthma. but because the so it doesn't make any sense, number one. number two, asthma isn't caused by pollute air as much. and i've just i'm making this up as i'm going along. but asthma isn't caused by that. it's

caused by toxicity in food. it's caused by toxicity in food. it's caused by toxicity in food. it's caused by these toxic seed oils that are destroying the lining of the lungs. it's all sorts the beans, probably beans or beans. >> we're back to beans, beans, sandwiches . sandwiches. >> it's all the same thing. food is the biggest. they are trying to starve us to death. is the biggest. they are trying to sokay. us to death. is the biggest. they are trying to sokay. right.ieath. is the biggest. they are trying to sokay. right. ohei. is the biggest. they are trying to sokay. right. one final quick >> okay. right. one final quick story. furious brits are slamming embarrassing americans for children after for naming their children after uk cities. seeing as you're an american and i'm not, are american and i'm not, why are americans calling their kids things leicester? americans calling their kids thirbecause eicester? such >> because we have such tremendous respect for the british people. we love british people and we shouldn't . and people and we shouldn't. and that's basically we're lovely . that's basically we're lovely. you are lovely. but so why wouldn't you go, oh, that's really great that we're a great people and that's why they're naming. that's they're naming. that's why they're naming. that's why they're naming , half of naming their children, half of us after us. it's scunthorpe. could be. i'm not going to say when i name my own kids for the sake privacy, but but they sake of privacy, but but they were my name, actually named my kids after . i were my name, actually named my kids after. i can't even i shouldn't say i can't even say it because they're my kids. and

the mother would go crazy . the mother would go crazy. >> right. we will be named >> oh, right. we will be named one after her after one of my kids after her after an . english celebrity . oh, go an. english celebrity. oh, go on. give us a clue . on. give us a clue. >> no. >> no. >> oh , i can't do it. >> oh, i can't do it. >> i can't do it. this i think. i think we've i think we've done very well for our time very well for our first time meeting. it absolutely . yeah. >> leave it absolutely. yeah. you've meat and you've avoided eating meat and you've have you'd you've. you have said you'd never eaten beans on toast. we need dinner date where i would need a dinner date where i would eat toast . eat beans on toast. >> oh, you don't do on toast. and are delicious. that's and they are delicious. that's why fight why you've got to fight it. that's have fight that's why we have to fight our own to eat these own desires to eat these horrible foods which so horrible foods which are so delicious . right. delicious. right. okay. >> yes thank you. >> thank you. yes thank you. right. that is lewis schaefer, who a comedian and has headliners. >> headliners , headliners, headliners. >> when are you on headliners ? >> when are you on headliners? >> when are you on headliners? >> i'm on headliners tomorrow. but headliners is on tonight at 11:00 channel. so come 11:00 on this channel. so come and watch that. >> not on tonight. >> yeah. he's not on tonight. he's so in. >> but it's just good with >> but it's just as good with that's probably better without me. yeah probably me. thank you for. yeah probably is actually be honest with is actually to be honest with i'll no don't >> oh no i don't of course i

know right. in any case, enough know. right. in any case, enough of frolics. you're of this fun and frolics. you're with on gb news on with dawn neesom on gb news on your and on digital radio. your tv and on digital radio. coming up, tranquil hawaiian coming up, the tranquil hawaiian island of maui is coming to terms with the aftermath of this week's wildfires, where 80 people have tragically lost their lives . and the village of their lives. and the village of lahaina, a very traditional historic place, has been obliterated. but seamless link that doesn't really work . now we that doesn't really work. now we look at what the weather's like in this country. >> looks like things are heating up. boxed boilers , proud up. boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello, i'm marco petagna. here's your latest weather update from the met office. we'll see rather mixed weather conditions across the uk over we'll see rather mixed weather con next1s across the uk over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple s the uk over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple of he uk over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple of days. over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple of days. some the next couple of days. some outbreaks most areas, outbreaks of rain in most areas, but to warm but things will start to warm up, around the up, particularly around the middle of the coming week. middle part of the coming week. low pressure anchored towards low pressure is anchored towards the at the the north—west of the uk at the moment, feeding in showers from the north—west of the uk at the morwest feeding in showers from the north—west of the uk at the morwest feersouthwest,vers from the north—west of the uk at the morwest feersouthwest, fairly'om the west and southwest, fairly tightly it's tightly packed isobars. so it's fairly out and about fairly breezy out and about certainly evening . certainly through the evening. some showers still in some showers still packing in across the from north and

across the uk from the north and west , but across the uk from the north and west, but becoming across the uk from the north and west , but becoming increasingly west, but becoming increasingly confined northern confined towards those northern and as we go and western areas as we go through period through the overnight period with the south east tending through the overnight period wi'seeie south east tending through the overnight period wi'seeie sou drier east tending through the overnight period wi'seeie sou drier conditions,ing to see some drier conditions, some spells times, some clear spells at times, too. but you are, it's but wherever you are, it's a pretty warm night. temperatures holding in range , 13 to holding up in the range, 13 to 16 celsius, 16 in the south—east is 61in fahrenheit. as for sunday, well, it's another day of sunshine and showers. the showers most frequent and most widespread the north widespread towards the north and northeast of the could still northeast of the uk could still be 2 thundery ones around be 1 or 2 thundery ones around as through the day on as we go through the day on sunday. towards sunday. whereas towards the south the showers south and east, the showers more scattered, more in the way of sunny here and with sunny spells here and with lighter and on saturday lighter winds. and on saturday it should feel a little bit warmer about. warmer out and about. temperatures peaking temperatures generally peaking in locally low in the high teens, locally low 20s towards more 20s towards the north more widely in the low 20s towards the south and southeast are high there 23 celsius, 73 there in london, 23 celsius, 73 in fahrenheit . as for monday, in fahrenheit. as for monday, we'll outbreaks of rain will sweep southwest, sweep in from the southwest, bringing unsettled day bringing a fairly unsettled day certainly and certainly across england and wales. heavy thundery wales. some heavy thundery bursts possible bursts of rain are possible in places and showers places as sunshine and showers though north and though towards the north and northwest the uk. but things northwest of the uk. but things will down around will quieten down around the middle coming week.

middle part of the coming week. temperatures peaking the temperatures peaking in the mid 20 could climb to 20 celsius could even climb to 30 celsius. >> looks like things are heating up . boxed boilers, proud up. boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news sponsors of weather on. gb news not too bad really, is it? >> you're with dawn neesom on gb news on your tv and on digital radio. still to come , lots of radio. still to come, lots of stuff. junior doctors have launched their fifth round of industrial action, but can the nhs cope with further strike chaos? but up next, a meteorology artist, jim dale, joins us. look at the wildfires which have devastated we've just been seeing on the news, haven't we? island of maui we? the hawaiian island of maui this

britain's news. channel >> good afternoon. you're with dawn neesom on gb news on tv and on digital radio. now it's time for climate control . the for climate control. the wildfires in maui have killed at least 80 people, with many more missing. the blazes have unleashed destruction. you can see horrific pictures there on the resort town of lahaina. the hawaiian officials say will take many years and billions of dollars to rebuild. the fires are being called the largest natural disaster in hawaii state history by the state's governor, josh green . wildfires have josh green. wildfires have devastated the island since tuesday with 80% of the historic seaside town lahaina completely destroyed . the pictures are destroyed. the pictures are devastating, aren't they? among those having lost businesses to the fire is fleetwood mac's mick

fleetwood. he took to twitter to announce that he had lost his restaurant, maui and the lahaina community have been my home for several decades . this is a several decades. this is a devastating moment for me, and many are suffering unimaginable loss. fleetwood's on front street has been lost , loss. fleetwood's on front street has been lost, and while we are heartbroken, our main priority is the safety of our dear staff and team members. now joining me now to talk more about this , this story is senior about this, this story is senior meteorologist at the british weather services , jim dow. jim, weather services, jim dow. jim, good afternoon . thank you very good afternoon. thank you very much for joining good afternoon. thank you very much forjoining me. it's obviously devastating news coming from hawaii . what do you coming from hawaii. what do you make of what has happened there ? >> 7- >> yeah, 7_ >> yeah, it's 7 >> yeah, it's another dot on the join the dots, isn't it? of what's been happening around the world in various places. obviously, this is this is right at the apex in terms of the fatalities and the destruction, the damage that's been done. >> it looks to be frank with you. >> it looks like one of the armageddon sort of films you see from to time on tv where

from time to time on tv where you think, oh, you know, that's some story will some fiction, a story that will never happen . but it never happen. but when it happens to you and this is the point when it happens to these poor then it becomes poor people, then it becomes very real. um, and it's not an armageddon film. it is real. and some of the stories coming out of there , i think there's yet to of there, i think there's yet to be more to come because obviously, , being declared 80 obviously, um, being declared 80 people, 80 or so people have lost their lives . i people, 80 or so people have lost their lives. i think there's a lot more missing than that. >> so the full, the full >> so i think the full, the full weight of this will will yet to be unveiled . be unveiled. >> it's i mean, we think there might be a thousand people still missing and people have described it as being is like being caught in a blowtorch and literally having to into literally having to jump into the as the fire moves so the sea as the fire moves so swiftly towards them. it does sound terrifying . sound absolutely terrifying. now, how can i have to ask this question , jim? because it's the question, jim? because it's the one question that everybody wants. how much what has wants. how much of what has happened is down to happened in hawaii is down to the climate situation we are currently in?

>> right. it's a great question . it's probably the question that's at the top of the list in terms of what we've already seen around the world. and there's the clue i would lead the local the clue i would lead the local the local occurrence , this the local occurrence, this particular occurrence to to the the to the locals themselves, the to the locals themselves, the authorities to decide how how that fits in with climate change. but what they've already said is this part of the world has been going through a drought, an unusual drought. has been going through a drought, an unusual drought . um, drought, an unusual drought. um, obviously it's a it's a hot place per se . um, they're place per se. um, they're calling this the worst natural disaster that they've seen since the tsunami of 1960. so that's a long time ago and that's a tsunami. nothing to do with weather as such. so it's right up there in terms of ticking the boxes as far as climate change is concerned. but i tend not to look at one at one event and say that's climate change. you know, we must put in the box of climate change. and what climate change. and that's what it we'll leave it is. as i say, we'll leave that authorities. that to local authorities. but what on is we've what we've got to do on is we've got to look around what's

got to look around at what's happening. a happening. and i do this as a meteorologist climatologists meteorologist and climatologists will there's been will do the same. there's been enough stories. mean, enough weather stories. i mean, it seems like every every, every second there's second day there's something going on somewhere. records broken. yourself to spain, broken. take yourself to spain, for example. a couple days for example. a couple of days ago. >> e. e- @ um,a @ um , a major city, 47 >> valencia um, a major city, 47 degrees, record breaking temperature, three degrees more than the previous not nought point 1 or 0.2. >> but but three we see the wildfires on rhodes and corfu. we've seen people dying in algeria , um, in north africa . algeria, um, in north africa. and by the way, morocco yesterday breached 50 degrees. there's something going on that is beyond just single events , if is beyond just single events, if that makes sense. the, the, the ocean temperatures at record levels in various places, including around our own shores and in the mediterranean and antarctica. sea ice at its lower level. and by the way, they're in winter, not summertime. so i kind of use the terminology of join the dots, join the dots . join the dots, join the dots. and that leads you to one

direction and one direction. and then just say this openly. then i'll just say this openly. i and i believe at i think and i believe we're at a tipping point and this is now the result of it. >> jim, just one of the things that has fuelled the fires is the hurricane dorian the pacific. and that's not climate change. that is something that happens region so, i happens in this region. so, i mean, there are other factors at play mean, there are other factors at play the thing i play here. the one thing that i wanted to ask you, jim, is how do rhetoric do you feel about the rhetoric that's used climate that's used around climate change, global boiling, for example ? well, when we have example? well, when we have children with recognisable anxiety problems by the language used about what's happening to our climate, how do you feel about some of the rhetoric? do we need to dial it down bit? we need to dial it down a bit? stop scaring people . stop scaring people. >> i think >> do you know what? i think a lot that rhetoric, though, lot of that rhetoric, though, and from the and actually comes from the climate denying not not climate denying side, not not not the scientists, not the climate biologists or the meteorologists, the quite reserved and, you know, a lot of flak gets thrown at meteorologists and climatologists about this. and i think they go about their daily

job trying to be diligent, trying to present the facts. and i saw alex deakin on a social media actually giving some back, if that makes sense, saying , you if that makes sense, saying, you know, about the colour of the maps and all of this sort of stuff. so i think the actual grammar that's used is primarily used by, by the denier side to make it, to make it into something that is, you know, not, not happening almost in other words, exaggerating the situation. >> to be fair, jim , that was you >> to be fair, jim, that was you that was used by, i think, the world health organisation, wasn't it? the actual global boiling us sorry, the un, the un will be. >> yeah, there will be individuals here and there and individuals here and there and in the united nations and elsewhere that will use these these words. but to be frank with you, if you use that, if you use that word to the people of maui now, they will probably agree with you. you know, this is where we're at. and you only, as i say, have to look around the globe and see that maybe

boiling is the wrong word. but but but the sea temperatures, for example, of miami , of the for example, of miami, of the florida keys there. there are way to boiling. so it's not boiling . but there are where you boiling. but there are where you put your your feet into that you're going to know about it. so at that stage , so yeah, we're at that stage, john, where the use of vocabulary is quite at a talking point. let's just say it's, it's not, it's not diffuse things . not, it's not diffuse things. >> it's not too late, is it? jim we can still do something. and finally, one very quick question. when are we going to get our summer ? get our summer? >> i know you're on to this, aren't you? don't you have a little on social media? little big time on social media? occasionally. tell occasionally. look, i'll tell you now, okay? can change you now, okay? you can change your blue. i like your blue. although i do like that always ready on tv that you're always ready on tv and have you . um, but and what have you. um, but you can back to yellow and can change back to yellow and red and all that red and oranges and all that sort of stuff later this week, especially in southeast. it sort of stuff later this week, espemove in southeast. it sort of stuff later this week, espemove north southeast. it sort of stuff later this week, espemove north and theast. it sort of stuff later this week, espemove north and west.:. it sort of stuff later this week, espemove north and west. so the will move north and west. so the answer to the question is give it, give it another week and you will unfolding and you can will see unfolding and you can smile a bit more.

>> thank you very much. that's jim dale there, senior meteorologist at british weather services. thank you for joining meteorologist at british weather service afternoon ou for joining meteorologist at british weather service afternoon ,u for joining meteorologist at british weather service afternoon , jim. joining meteorologist at british weather service afternoon , jim. now ng us this afternoon, jim. now you're neesom on gb you're with dawn neesom on gb news, and on digital news, on tv and on digital radio. coming up, news, on tv and on digital radio. coming up , this week's radio. coming up, this week's difficult conversation , i'll be difficult conversation, i'll be joined by rachel swan , ceo of joined by rachel swan, ceo of grassroots suicide prevention. but next with doctor strikes this year already costing the nhs £1 billion, are these latest junior doctor strikes more about politics than the nhs ? but first politics than the nhs? but first is your latest news headlines . is your latest news headlines. >> hi there it is. 332. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. >> french maritime authorities have confirmed six migrants have died after a small boat carrying more than 50 people got into difficulties in the channel this morning. >> dover lifeboat and several french vessels have been involved in the operation in about five miles off the french coast, ambulance crews greeted the casualties as they arrived at dover harbour . the

the casualties as they arrived at dover harbour. the home office has been chairing an emergency meeting of the small boats operational gold command this morning. home secretary suella braverman says my thoughts and prayers are with those affected by the tragic loss of life in the channel. immigration officers have arrested seven people in northern ireland as part of a crackdown on illegal workers, part of the home office's operation tornado two. it was just one of several raids across the uk. included in the arrests was a female chinese national at a restaurant in county down a second chinese man was allowed to voluntarily return to the repubuc to voluntarily return to the republic of ireland. the takeaway's owner now faces a fine of up to £20,000 . 80 people fine of up to £20,000. 80 people have now been confirmed dead as a result of wildfires on the hawaiian island of maui .with hawaiian island of maui. with that number set to rise , that number set to rise, hundreds remain unaccounted for. fresh evacuations are underway as flames surge towards the town of kaanapali. the residents from

nearby islands have loaded recreational boats and jet skis to bring supplies in to those staying in emergency shelters . staying in emergency shelters. us and england have beaten colombia 2—1 to reach the semi—finals of the women's world cup . goals from lauren hemp and cup. goals from lauren hemp and alessia helped the alessia russo helped the lionesses come behind after lionesses come from behind after colombia had taken the lead . colombia had taken the lead. they'll now face co—hosts australia . on the 16th of august australia. on the 16th of august . more on all of our stories on our website. gbnews.com now back to dawn . thank you, aaron. to dawn. thank you, aaron. >> all right. coming up, it's political spotlight as doctors head into their fifth round of industrial action this year, costing the nhs £1 billion. but are these strikes more politics than health care? don't go anywhere

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channel >> welcome back. your dawn neesom on gb news and on digital radio. now to the story of police arresting an autistic teenager for an alleged homophobic comment. let's just take a look at how events unfolded . a warning that this is unfolded. a warning that this is actually quite an upsetting clip and it might be distressing for some of you , but you clenching some of you, but you clenching your fists, go away from my teenage daughter. >> what is wrong with you?

>> what is wrong with you? >> me? she didn't aim it at the police officer. >> homophobic remarks at my mom. >> homophobic remarks at my mom. >> it's not a homophobe remark, she said. i think she's a lesbian . like. like nana. lesbian. like. like nana. >> i think if you want to bully people, you just. >> just of them >> you just get one of them badges >> you just get one of them bacthat's what you do. >> that's what you do. >> that's what you do. >> yeah, exactly. caitlin how is it? go right over there. she's autistic. >> she don't like people touching her. she will have a meltdown . she won't come out. meltdown. she won't come out. she's got autism . she's got autism. >> and lisa, talk to her so she can come out. >> absolutely horrible, isn't it? the 16 year old girl has been released from bail, but west yorkshire police is professional standards directorate is still looking into the incident after receiving a complaint . want to receiving a complaint. want to discuss this, frankly, really disturbing story. i'm joined by former london police officer and director of law and order foundation, norman brennan. norman, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. i really i'm unsure where to begin with this. i mean , you've seen with this. i mean, you've seen the footage. what do you make of what happened ?

what happened? >> well, look, let's put some context on this. >> dawn . police officers are >> dawn. police officers are called to incidents every day of the week when they deal with teenagers , those with some sort teenagers, those with some sort of disability or the elderly in general. they're quite sensitive. we've seen a short clip there and many clips. i see on social media, sometimes a conveniently clipped to give a narrative of something that perhaps others are unaware of. if we see an entire clip, we may have found out why the police actually attended this address in the first place. what sort of opposition they face, whether it is threatening behaviour , is threatening behaviour, abusive behaviour, what we see is a clip and yes , the context is a clip and yes, the context of it is not pleasant, but also saw dawn that there was another criticism on the pile on on social media where they criticised seven officers attended this address. what they may not know is that if the officer felt threatened, we haven't seen that, but it may be

in another part of the video they would have touched their red button, which means that all available officers within the vicinity would turn up to back that officer up to ensure that he or she was okay. that was probably why there were seven officers. you wouldn't have seven officers attending the juveniles house for that sort of crime . crime. >> so, i mean, obviously , look, >> so, i mean, obviously, look, you know, we all of us respect sort of like the men and the women on the beat who are doing this job. women on the beat who are doing thisjob. it's women on the beat who are doing this job. it's an women on the beat who are doing thisjob. it's an incredibly this job. it's an incredibly hard job. you understand hard job. and you understand that is dangerous job and that it is a dangerous job and people , you know, as said, people, you know, as you said, they their they might have pressed their red surely red button. but but surely norman, i mean, it's you know, the fact that the police, the force in question on investigating what happened. the girl has been released with no charges whatsoever, although she was held in custody for 20 hours and questioned surely the fact that the police, the force, are investigating means that maybe we the context is what we are seeing . seeing. >> well, look, all of us within

policing are certainly when i was in policing is probably the only job where every single officer is a manager, every officer is a manager, every officer has to substantiate the behaviour or actions that they've taken . and there's many they've taken. and there's many of us that have attended a scene or an incident where we could have dealt with it better . we have dealt with it better. we could have spoken to somebody better . we may not have needed better. we may not have needed to use the force that we needed. and if that's the case, there will be words advice . will be words of advice. there'll complaint, and if there'll be a complaint, and if it's a serious complaint, it'll be forwarded to the crown prosecution service or the office independent police office of independent police conduct . what i've seen, dawn, conduct. what i've seen, dawn, and what you've seen is a clip. and yes, it's distressing if we saw a bigger clip, pretty much like a court and that's why we have courts, is that you're here what police did and why they what the police did and why they did it, how they were received, and if they could have dealt with it better. what i have seen on social media is demands for the chief constable to resign , the chief constable to resign, the chief constable to resign, the officer to be suspended .

the officer to be suspended. that's not down to you or me . that's not down to you or me. what we've seen is an incident that doesn't look pleasant, that looks could have looks as though it could have been but have we been handled better. but have we seen the true context and we can't have people being destroyed on social media? and a caveat to all of this, what i'm talking about is i'm not here to defend bad policing . goodness defend bad policing. goodness me. i've been on your program and many others condemning some police behaviour. what i will say this , is that i spoke to say is this, is that i spoke to a very senior federation police federation official this week and discussed an officer who and we discussed an officer who was absolutely slated on social media and he apparently had committed an assault for which i understand he was convicted for. so he would face a penalty for that. but the social media for the lynch mob put him in such a bad place , he committed suicide. bad place, he committed suicide. so we've got to be careful with context. we've got to be careful how we use our pylons. we shouldn't really pile on people. and where police officers have made a mistake. and if this young officer has made a

mistake, it's only right. and proper that that's put before the right authority where they see independently what she has done. and either words of advice are given or maybe some disciplinary action will be taken . taken. >> just just just for people that aren't aware of the story, what we are aware of at the moment , as i what we are aware of at the moment, as i said, we don't know the full context and that's precisely what west yorkshire police as the police have said as well. the girl was arrested after telling an officer , you look like my an officer, you look like my lesbian nana , which it's you lesbian nana, which it's you know, and this was a supposedly a homophobic public order offence, even though it was said in the girl's home. is it possible to commit a public order offence in your own home? >> no, not really. um you commit a public order offence normally out in the street, it's threatening abusive or violent behaviour towards someone else where it causes fear to other members of the public. um, the sad reality is, is that not all police officers know their full

powers all of the time. we have lost 22 000 police officers over the last 12, 13 years. we've been obsessed of recruiting as many as we possibly can. and i believe that there are a number of people that we've recruited a that are not up to standard b, they probably haven't got a good grasp of the law. and not only that , since i grasp of the law. and not only that, since i was in policing about homophobia, you know, all these all these different phobias that are put upon the police, that they must they must crack down on this. they must crack down on this. they must crack down on that. and the thing is, police officers sometimes perhaps will arrest someone one or threaten to arrest someone . um, whereas 20, arrest someone. um, whereas 20, 30 years ago i'd have given them words of advice and told them to get on their way. but when they get on their way. but when they get involved in a situation get on their way. but when they get initheyd in a situation get on their way. but when they get inithey maya situation get on their way. but when they get inithey may notuation get on their way. but when they get inithey may not have] get on their way. but when they get inithey may not have the where they may not have the power, like in this case, they may not have had the power accelerates to such a degree. it hits social media and suddenly

the anti—police mob basically make the police look as though they're all dreadful and crap and don't care. that's far from the truth. the majority do . some the truth. the majority do. some make mistakes. i made mistakes when i was a police officer . i when i was a police officer. i learnt from them and i become a better person for it. sometimes we need to just step back a bit and let the right authorities deal with it . the young and let the right authorities deal with it. the young girl is no longer bail and no doubt no longer on bail and no doubt an will attend to make an officer will attend to make sure that she's okay. kept up to scratch with what's going on and i it's learning curve i think it's a learning curve for . but one thing for everybody. but one thing that must learn , dawn, is that we must learn, dawn, is that we must learn, dawn, is that have these piles that we can't have these piles on on social media and push people to the point of suicide. that's what social media is that's not what social media is all about. we allow independent police investigations and our courts to deal with wrongdoings by police officers. >> no, of course . absolutely. >> no, of course. absolutely. that's norman brennan there. thank you very much for joining us afternoon, norman. as i us this afternoon, norman. as i said , disturbing story said, a disturbing story that hopefully will have an outcome . hopefully will have an outcome. now we have to read what the west yorkshire police have said

as a statement. we recognise the significant level of public concern that this incident has generated and we have moved swiftly to fully review the evidence in the criminal, investigate section, which has led to the decision to take no further action without pre—empting the outcome of the ongoing review. the circumstances by our professional standards directorate , we would like to directorate, we would like to reassure people that we will take on board any lessons to be learned from this incident . we learned from this incident. we do appreciate the understandable sensitivities around incidents involving young people and neurodiversity , and we are neurodiversity, and we are genuinely committed to developing how we respond to these often very challenging situations . us now moving on, situations. us now moving on, it's situations. us now moving on, wsfime situations. us now moving on, it's time for this week's political spotlight. the health secretary says the latest four day strike by junior doctors serves only to harm patients . serves only to harm patients. but it's the fifth time they've staged a walkout this year in an ongoing dispute over pay. according to the nhs . almost

according to the nhs. almost 835,000 appointments have been postponed since industrial action began in december. postponed since industrial action began in december . the action began in december. the british medical association say it's been left with no choice . it's been left with no choice. but have they ? joining me to but have they? joining me to discuss this now is gp and chair of coventry local medical committee, dr. gavin shields. dr. shields , thank you very much dr. shields, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon . for joining us this afternoon. now the strike is expected to go on for four days. by the end of this four days, we're expected over a million appointments and treatments to be cancelled. what do you make of this strike? >> well, no one in the health service takes the decision to take industrial action lightly. >> and this was thought through very carefully at and the ballot was put forward to junior doctors really on the basis of looking in the long term to protect patients care. i think that over the last decade a lot of juniors finishing training, coming into the nhs have seen

worsening conditions , worsening worsening conditions, worsening morale and most worryingly, an increasing loss to the workforce , with colleagues leaving the nhs completely or leaving the nhs completely or leaving the nhs to work abroad in australia, new zealand, canada . and the new zealand, canada. and the difficulty with this is it's causing a drain on the workforce with increasing pressure on the existing workforce and the services . and i think that they services. and i think that they felt they didn't have any other opfion felt they didn't have any other option because they were looking forward to what they wanted. was a long career in the nhs serving patients, which is why we all go into medical school. that's what we want to do. and looking at a system that they felt was not reliably going provide that reliably going to provide that for them or for patient care , for them or for patient care, and they felt they had to stand up make a comment. it is, of up and make a comment. it is, of course about pay to in real terms the junior doctors pay has fallen by 26% since 2009, but that further erodes the desire for our junior colleagues to commit to a long term career in

the nhs. and that doesn't serve us well as patients . and we are, us well as patients. and we are, all of us in many ways, patients, our families are patients, our families are patients, the nhs, we all have a stake in this and we all want an nhs that is properly staffed , nhs that is properly staffed, properly funded to be there for us in our time of need now absolutely . absolutely. >> of course, all of that is taken as read, but there isn't a huge fund of money around at the moment and the bma don't seem to be budging on the 35% pay rise. they are asking for, which the government say they're not budging , they're not going budging, they're not going anywhere. now other health professionals and the nurses and paramedics have accepted mid pay offers and negotiated with the government. this does seem to have a more political element to it. if you look at some of the placards that the junior doctors are waving outside and it's all about sort of like what they think of the tories, what they think of boris johnson. et cetera. we didn't cetera. et cetera. we didn't see that with that quite as much with the nurses strike or the paramedics or health care or other health care professionals. much do you

professionals. how much do you think politics is involved in these strike actions ? these strike actions? >> well, i don't doubt that as doctors like anyone else in the in the population, hold political views . what i would political views. what i would say is that no one of my junior colleagues that i've spoken to talk about this in any political frame whatsoever. they talk about this in terms of six dunng about this in terms of six during safe working practise and continuity of care for their patients. i mean , the ballot patients. i mean, the ballot went out and nearly 80% of eligible junior doctors voted and 98% voted for strike action. and doctors again hold a range of political views. i would not believe for one minute that 98% of those balloted all hold views hostile to the tory party that i'm not saying that there aren't placards. i think they probably reflect more the fact that the government has been in for the last decade they feel has caused an overseen an erosion in

patient care at and that's caused frustration. but the strike itself is not politically dnven.l strike itself is not politically driven . i would refute that. driven. i would refute that. it's driven by trying to protect the nhs and protect future care. i do realise that it is terribly inconvenient for patients that appointments are lost. nobody wants that to happen but the juniors a junior colleagues and my consultant colleagues have felt backed into a corner and really felt what other options are open to them. >> so some of the people who have voted to take action and are on the picket lines have only been qualified as doctors for two weeks. so so they can't really experience the pressures. you are absolutely rightly describing. it's not easy. it's not an easy job whatsoever. and how do we square the as you've just said, the continuity of care and, you know , caring about care and, you know, caring about the patients with the fact that with the fact that people are potentially going to die. i mean, cancer uk says 40,000

cancer patients have experienced potentially deadly postponements due to this strike action. you know, you can't postpone cancer treatments. so how do you square that with the continuity of care , which potentially a million people in this country are now not going to be getting because of strike action? of this strike action? >> well, first of all, yes , they >> well, first of all, yes, they may be recently qualified . some may be recently qualified. some of them and some of them obviously qualified for obviously been qualified for a lot are still classed lot longer and are still classed as colleagues . lot longer and are still classed as colleagues. but lot longer and are still classed as colleagues . but from as junior colleagues. but from the moment you're in medical school, you're exposed to the nhs and start to work, integrate with the nhs in hospitals and gp practises. so it's not that you spend 4 or 5 years in medical school completely removed from patient facing care and suddenly go out at new into it at the end of it you are integrated right from the start and they have seen right through their training, the pressures that their colleagues are under and have seen. the fact that increasing numbers of them are leaving and that is terribly wasteful. and i think that the

balance here, all that you say, but the balance that that my colleagues have gone through to take this decision that nobody wanted to take, it really comes down to, well, if we don't stand up, we're actually going to do more harm to patients in the long term. if we allow services is to continue to erode and the workforce to continue to leave and really, it's looking to try and really, it's looking to try and protect that continuity of care that they've taken this action. >> okay. that is dr. gavin shields, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. dr. shields . well, very interesting shields. well, very interesting what you think about this. certainly, if you are waiting for appointment, you're with for an appointment, you're with dawn neesom on gb news, on your tv and on digital radio. coming up in the next hour, we'll be joined by gb news home affairs and security mark white to get the latest on the migrant tragedy overnight in the english channel. and with the lionesses, there is some good news. and with the lionesses through to the women's world cup

semi—finals, we'll be talking all things football, taking the knee. harry kane and our wonderful lionesses . so please wonderful lionesses. so please don't it's time don't go anywhere. now it's time for the weather . for the weather. >> the temperature is rising . >> the temperature is rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello, i'm marco petagna. here's your latest weather update from the met office . update from the met office. we'll see rather mixed weather conditions uk over we'll see rather mixed weather con next1s uk over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple uk over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple of uk over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple of days. over the next couple of days. some outbreaks rain in most areas, outbreaks of rain in most areas, but will to warm but things will start to warm up, particularly around the middle week. middle part of the coming week. low pressure is anchored towards the of at the the north—west of the uk at the moment, showers from the north—west of the uk at the morwest showers from the north—west of the uk at the morwest southwest wers from the north—west of the uk at the morwest southwest ,'ers from the north—west of the uk at the morwest southwest , butfrom the west and southwest, but fairly isobars. fairly tightly packed isobars. so fairly out and so it's fairly breezy out and about certainly through the evening. still evening. some showers still packing in across the uk from the north and west, becoming the north and west, but becoming increasingly confined towards those western those northern and western areas as the overnight as we go through the overnight penod and as we go through the overnight period and east period with the south and east tending some drier tending to see some drier conditions some spells conditions, some clear spells at times, but wherever you times, too. but wherever you are, pretty warm night . are, it's a pretty warm night. temperatures the temperatures holding up in the range , 16 celsius, 16 in range, 13 to 16 celsius, 16 in the south—east is 61. in fahrenheit . as for sunday, well, fahrenheit. as for sunday, well, it's another day of sunshine and

showers. the showers most frequent and most widespread showers. the showers most frequentthej most widespread showers. the showers most frequentthe northt widespread showers. the showers most frequentthe north andiespread showers. the showers most frequentthe north and northeast towards the north and northeast of the uk could still be 1 or 2 thundery ones we go thundery ones around as we go through the day on sunday. whereas south and through the day on sunday. wher

hello and welcome back to gb news on your tv and on digital radio. i'm dawn neesom filling in for the lovely nana akua . and in for the lovely nana akua. and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of hitting the

of the big topics hitting the headunes of the big topics hitting the headlines this show headlines right now. this show is all opinion, though is all about opinion, though mine theirs, but most importantly , yours. you're the importantly, yours. you're the importantly, yours. you're the important ones. we'll be debating and discussing and at times disagreeing nicely, obviously. so joining me today is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and former labour party adviser matthew laterza . party adviser matthew laterza. but before we get started and they're very excited, i can tell . before we get started, let's get to the latest news headlines i >> -- >> good afternoon to you. >> good afternoon to you. >> it's 4:00. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. six people have died after a small boat carrying migrants sankin small boat carrying migrants sank in the channel this morning . maritime authorities . french maritime authorities say up to ten people remain missing . the rnli and the french missing. the rnli and the french coast guard have rescued around 50 from the vessel which 50 people from the vessel which got difficulties. about got into difficulties. about five miles off the coast of calais. ambulance were calais. ambulance crews were there to assist survivors as they arrived at dover harbour . they arrived at dover harbour. the home secretary, suella braverman , says this my thoughts

braverman, says this my thoughts and prayers are with those affected by the tragic loss of life in the channel. our home and security editor mark white says the rescue operation continues as there is a possibility that more people who were thrown into the water are are still out there, still missing . missing. >> so that search is involving, we're told, aerial assets in the form of coast guard helicopters like boats from both the uk and the french side. and of course, those various patrol boats from france and border force vessels i >> meanwhile, seven people have been arrested in northern ireland as part of a crackdown on illegal workers . on illegal workers. >> it is the latest in a number of home office enforcement raids across the uk in the last few days. a chinese woman was detained at a takeaway in warren point in county down. a chinese man was allowed to voluntarily return to the republic of ireland. the takeaway owner now faces a fine of up to £20,000.

the uk allocates almost the least amount of money to repairing potholes. out of 13 major nations it funds set aside to fix uk roads have been slashed. annual expenditure fell from £4 billion in zero 6 to £2 billion in 2019. only italy and ireland have seen bigger percentage cuts. it's estimating the cost of repaired repairing roads. in england and wales alone is £14 billion per year. mark morrell , a campaigner known mark morrell, a campaigner known as mr pothole , says the latest as mr pothole, says the latest figures indicate spending is decreasing even further up until 2019. >> there was a, you know, only investing 51% of what we should have done compared to 2006. >> but that's even worse because that 2019 figure doesn't equate to what currently spend . is1.36 billion. >> and if you include inflation, then we're spending 25% of what we were in 2006 on maintaining our roads .

our roads. >> now up to 80 people have died and hundreds more are reported missing because of the wildfires that have engulfed the hawaiian island of maui. fresh evacuations are underway as flames go towards the town of kaanapali. a residents from nearby islands have loaded recreation boats and jet skis to bnng recreation boats and jet skis to bring supplies to those in emergency shelters . hawaii's emergency shelters. hawaii's attorney general is calling for attorney general is calling for a comprehensive review into how authorities responded to the wildfires as questions mount oven wildfires as questions mount over, residents were warned quickly enough . the duke of quickly enough. the duke of sussex has played a polo match, raising for money hiv sufferers in honour of his late mother, prince harry took part in the sporting event for his charity , sporting event for his charity, sentebale, in singapore. earlier and the money raised will provide support for young people who are living with hiv. he played against a singapore polo club team captained by the charity's ambassador , charity's ambassador, argentinian polo player nacho

figueiras. both the duke and figueras scored the match ended seven seven. princess diana pioneered efforts to challenge stigma around the disease, holding hands and hugging patients with aids. in the 19805, patients with aids. in the 1980s, when many still wrongly believed it could be contracted through casual contact . england through casual contact. england have beaten colombia 2—1 to reach the semi—finals of the women's world cup. goals from lauren hemp and alessia russo helped the lionesses come from behind after colombia took the lead. they will now face the co—hosts australia on the 16th of august at. this is gb news on tv radio and on your smart speaken tv radio and on your smart speaker. now it is back over to dawn . dawn. >> thank you, aaron. now, before we get stuck into the debate with my lovely panel. here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this hounl the great british debate. this hour, i asking , should hour, i am asking, should ministers be sacked over the

bibby stockholm farce tragedy in the channel overnight has revealed just how important we get migrant migration under control. but with the home office stuff up this week on the bibby stockholm, do we need more accountability and at 450 it's our royal roundup with angela levin will be in the studio to give the latest from behind the palace walls. a royal reshuffle sees prince andrew and harry demoted and prince william's popularity in the us revealed . popularity in the us revealed. and then at five, it's this week's difficult conversation . week's difficult conversation. rachel swann is ceo of ceo of grass roots suicide prevention and joins me for an important discussion at a very important discussion, actually . it's discussion, actually. it's a global killer with someone dying from suicide every 40s . but from suicide every 40s. but rachel's charity is trying to put an end to that with support and services. a difficult and very important conversation that's all coming up in the next hour. that's all coming up in the next hour . as always, tell that's all coming up in the next hour. as always, tell me what you think on everything we're discussing by emailing

gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. use . now at gb news. use. now the tragic story aaron was just talking aboutin story aaron was just talking about in the news, french maritime authorities have confirmed six migrants have died and more than 50 have been rescued after their small boat got into difficulties in the channel morning. dover channel this morning. dover lifeboat and several french vessels have been involved in the operation. about five miles off the french coast at. joining us now to bring us up to date on this story is gb news home and security editor mark white. mark is a rapidly developing story. what more can you tell us this morning of what's happened and. >> well, we've certainly got a much clearer idea of how events unfolded. it was around about 4 am. when a passing ship in the channel noticed a small migrant boat that was is apparently very

full of migrants and insignificant difficulty. reports that many of those on board were using their shoes at just to bail them out . and the just to bail them out. and the emergency services were called. by emergency services were called. by the time those rescue craft from both france and the uk reached the scene, it was a scene of absolute chaos, with many of those migrants in the water. at that time we had exclusive pictures from our producer here in kent of one of the vessels involved in the rescue, the border force vessel and also the dover life boat, which arrived back at dover with not just just those that they'd rescued from this incident, but also , though, with a number of also, though, with a number of other migrants that they picked up in an incident just before for this particular tragedy unfolded. so it was absolutely full to the gunnels as it arrived at dover harbour

alongside another support vessel. again carrying some of the channel migrants. vessel. again carrying some of the channel migrants . and at the the channel migrants. and at the same time, we had the french authorities with five vessels in the area taking casualties to calais . what the french calais. what the french confirmed to us is that one of those was flown by helicopter to calais, was pronounced dead before arriving at the hospital. and then five others who were taken by fast rescue craft to the port of calais were also so confirmed to have died. now, throughout the day , the search throughout the day, the search operation has continued in the engush operation has continued in the english channel because the some of the survivors have told rescuers that they believe anything . between 65 and 68 anything. between 65 and 68 people may have been on board the vessel. we understand just under 60 were actually rescued. so a number of people potentially still out missing in

the channel that are currently being searched for by rescue teams out there. and throughout the day, dawn , this has been the day, dawn, this has been another astonishing day in terms of the small boat activity in the channel and surprise knowingly so because the conditions in the channel this morning were very windy indeed with winds. well over 20 miles an hour from the south—west whipping up the waves in the channel whipping up the waves in the channel, making it almost impossible for these small boats. but the criminal gangs were still pushing them out into the english channel. and we understand that at least 400 people have crossed out in small boats today , multiple incidents boats today, multiple incidents throughout the day that the rescue services had to respond to. >> do we know, mark, the boat confirm and in this particular tragedy, do we know , was it one tragedy, do we know, was it one of the standard dinghies we're used seeing now ? well we

used to seeing now? well we don't know, but we certainly know that the people smugglers have been using what they've been describing as kind of more robust and sturdy small boats in recent weeks. >> you remember that some of the big tragedies that we've had over the last couple of years involve boats that really just had sort of makeshift plywood bottoms, that anytime there are waves of any significance out there, it can just cause these boats to split and to sink . it boats to split and to sink. it may well have been one of those boats or it could have been one of the newer boats. the trouble with the newer boats, although the people smugglers are partly claiming they're a bit more claiming that they're a bit more sturdy, kind of rubber sturdy, they're kind of rubber throughout. not a plywood throughout. so not a plywood bottom anymore. but they say a reinforced rubber bottom. but they are putting more in the way of people on board these boats. so a year or so ago, you were you were looking at 30, 40 odd people on the boats . but this

people on the boats. but this year that's been creeping up north of 50. and on some days we've seen 60, 70 or more people put on board these boats. then it doesn't matter how sturdy it's claimed these boats might be, they clearly are not. and especially when you're out in wind and waves like that, then there is real potential for tragedy out in the channel as witnessed today. and the other thing to add about this is that the rescue services say this incident today was the seventh incident today was the seventh incident that they have been called to this week in which migrants have ended up in the water. so i think some real concern going forward is that perhaps the people smugglers are just becoming more reckless in what they're doing or it's a by—product of the fact that they're just stuffing more and more people on board the boat. but it seems that in terms of the incidents of people in the water and the potential for a

real tragedy has increased significantly in recent weeks now compared to what it was before . yes, of course, you had before. yes, of course, you had boats coming across and occasional tragedies . but as occasional tragedies. but as i say, in one week, to have seven separate rescue incidents in which migrants ended up in the water is clearly alarming. >> that's awful . mark white, >> that's awful. mark white, thank you for updating on that awful tragedy. and obviously thoughts with with with the families of those who have lost their lives and certainly we hope that anyone that is missing is found safely. thank you very much, mark, for that report. right now, we do move on at and there is some good stuff around today as well. so let's get stuck into everything that's been kicking off in the world of sport this week. england are through to the semi—finals of the women's world cup after beating colombia 2 to 2 one today, they faced co—hosts

australia . but can the lionesses australia. but can the lionesses go all the way to the final and bnng go all the way to the final and bring it home? because the boys never do, do they? anyway, shouldn't say that. i know, but come on. and the premier league is obviously back without harry kane. is obviously back without harry kane . harry kane is obviously back without harry kane. harry kane is off to germany . and, you know, spurs germany. and, you know, spurs fans are in mourning. germany. and, you know, spurs fans are in mourning . oh, well, fans are in mourning. oh, well, i'm a west ham fan, by the way. and what about this taking the knee business with millionaire players competing in qatar, for example , amounts of money is it example, amounts of money is it all a bit hypocritical? but this season , again, they are once season, again, they are once more bringing back that taking the knee. right. okay so let's get started. it's good to talk sport on a saturday, isn't it? welcome again to my panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and former labour party adviser matthew lazar . lizzie. adviser matthew lazar. lizzie. matthew, thank you so much for joining me on a saturday to be with you, dawn. and it's coming home. >> it's coming home. we're in the semi finals. you know what? >> i'm so excited. i mean, this the semi finals. you know what? >:the1 so excited. i mean, this the semi finals. you know what? >:the pinnacle ed. i mean, this the semi finals. you know what? >:the pinnacle of i mean, this the semi finals. you know what? >:the pinnacle of anyone'sthis is the pinnacle of anyone's

career and the girls are going to do it. and who would have thought they they beat nigeria with penalties . they always say, with penalties. they always say, you know, we're famously terrible at penalties and we got through there. we haven't got , through there. we haven't got, though, lauren james, who's the star forward . she's been star forward. she's been replaced ella tone . so, you replaced by ella tone. so, you know, she did a bit of a know, she she did a bit of a naughty foul put her hands up, said sorry but she was going to miss two games. but but the girls are on a winning streak and i've got a really you know, i'm not just got my lucky pants on. i'm telling now they're on. i'm telling you now they're going to it. they really are. going to do it. they really are. i'm actually i'm i'm so excited. and who would have thought that women's taking women's football would be taking off like this? >> absolutely. and >> absolutely. exactly. and i think. isn't great, think. isn't that great, matthew? i mean, sort of like i think there's how many odds? 1500 supporters have actually travelled to the tournament in australia and it's not around the corner. >> not around the >> it's not exactly around the corner, is it? >> most them women. 10% >> most of them are women. 10% are the are men as well. supporting the girls it is great, girls out there. so it is great, you know, even if you're how big a fan are you, by the way? >> i'm not massive football

>> i'm not a massive football fan. going i'm going >> i'm not a massive football farlook. going i'm going >> i'm not a massive football farlit's. going i'm going >> i'm not a massive football farlit's fantasticng i'm going >> i'm not a massive football farlit's fantastic to i'm going >> i'm not a massive football farlit's fantastic to i'the oing >> it's fantastic to see the women's game getting the attention resources that attention and the resources that it deserves. and so, i mean, look, all to look, you know, all credit to the lionesses and let them go. no problem. is i'm half no problem. i've got is i'm half aussie i have a dilemma in aussie so i have a dilemma in the in the next round there we go. >> there we go. >> there we go. >> i'm actually actually my i think i know who i'm really supporting. >> of course. absolutely. >> of course. absolutely. >> sitting between lizzie and by the way of course . the way of course. >> yes. >> yes. >> but i mean it's i think it's a great boost just for a great boost not just for women's for women's women's football, for women's sport think that it's let's >> and i think that it's let's hope that it allows women's sport in more fields to get the attention it deserves. and the tv time it deserves as well. >> well, absolutely . and that >> well, absolutely. and that game against australia is on the 16th at 11 am. >> oh, gosh, i can't wait. >> oh, gosh, i can't wait. >> really can't wait. i'm so >> i really can't wait. i'm so excited. >> we'll have full coverage here on gb news as well, obviously. now, , the women i now, the thing is, the women i mean, the european championship, we are performing, we women are performing better than the men, but why do you think i'm going to ask you this, matthew,

because you being one of those being being the token fella, being being the token fella, being the token boy on the panel being the token boy on the panel, why why are men still so scathing about the women's game? >> well, i think it's partly sexism. let's face it. you know, and i think it's partly a bit of sort of jealousy and embarrassment as lizzie says, that the boys one of you both of you said the boys haven't exactly brought it home. we've had how years of waiting had how many years of waiting and waiting. we wait for and waiting. now, as we wait for the national bring to the national side to bring to bnng the national side to bring to bring some silverware home. bring some some silverware home. so that's part of it and so i think that's part of it and i part it is just what i think part of it is just what people you know , people are used to. you know, it's changed for people see it's changed for people to see women's women's football on the telly treated just as seriously , quite rightly, as the men's game. so i think it will lessen as time goes on. you know? i mean, come on blokes, you know, it. let's celebrate success, british success. >> it's a feel good factor, isn't it ? isn't it? >> and let's face it, we could do with that. >> at the moment really do >> at the moment we really do with >> at the moment we really do witibut sadly in football >> but sadly in football there still are those old dinosaurs that don't like women in football, they want them football, they don't want them as and linesmen and now

as referees and linesmen and now we're seeing women actually taking over the sponsors . the taking over the sponsors. the brands are coming in and, you know what? they're winning something our boys don't something that our boys don't always do. >> exactly . and you know what, >> exactly. and you know what, lizzie? the amount of sorry you block your ears out. block your lizzie? the amount of sorry you blociup, ur ears out. block your lizzie? the amount of sorry you blociup, ur earyout. block your lizzie? the amount of sorry you blociup, ur earyou know, :k your lizzie? the amount of sorry you blociup, ur earyou know, the>ur ears up, boys. you know, the amount paunchy amount of frankly, paunchy middle on middle aged men that sit on their going, i'd run rings their sofas going, i'd run rings round her on pitch, and round her on the pitch, and you're going? i don't so. you're going? i don't think so. >> well , i you're going? i don't think so. >> well, i really don't. >> well, i really don't. >> i mean, don't you i both >> i mean, don't you and i both love football. different teams, of chelsea and of course. i'm chelsea and you're west ham. >> got you . >> we've got you. >> we've got you. » m >> we've got you. >> up. but, you >> got you. coming up. but, you know, sit there at the know, i used to sit there at the shed at chelsea years ago and they would say, well, what do you football ? you you know about football? you don't offside and don't know the offside rule. and it was it terrible. it was it was terrible. >> school, i don't know >> and at school, i don't know the offside rule, i'll say i'll tell you, i'm not a proper boy, i'll break. i'll tell you in the break. >> it really, you know, >> but it really, you know, we've so forward we've gone so much forward because playing because i love playing football myself . and at was myself. and at school i was allowed to football well. allowed to play football well. and look what's going and now you look what's going on. know, it's really coming on. you know, it's really coming home for the women. >> it's and it's great >> it's great and it's great news young girls out there >> it's great and it's great

ne'well. young girls out there >> it's great and it's great ne'well. inspirediirls out there >> it's great and it's great ne'well. inspired to; out there >> it's great and it's great ne'well. inspired to take there >> it's great and it's great ne'well. inspired to take part; as well. inspired to take part in get out there and in sport and get out there and do girls, you can achieve . do it. girls, you can achieve. there's glass ceiling in there's no glass ceiling in football now. go it. well, football now. go for it. well, only who can't win anything. >> well, exactly . >> well, exactly. >> well, exactly. >> but they get paid a lot more money. >> for now, a lot more >> but for now, a lot more money. and at what harry money. and look at what harry kane's be kane's wages are going to be three as tottenham three times as much as tottenham and mine. and then mine. >> mind spurs fans. any >> never mind spurs fans. any case, with neesom on case, you're with dawn neesom on gb news your tv and on gb news on your tv and on digital radio coming up, it's our weekly royal roundup with angela levin, prince harry, prince andrew, both demoted in a reshuffle. angela will have all the latest gossip from behind those palace walls. but first, let's look at the weather, shall we? >> that warm feeling inside made from boxt boilers is proud sponsors of weather on gb news. hello i'm marco petagna. >> here's your latest weather update from the met office. we'll see rather mixed weather conditions across the over we'll see rather mixed weather con next1s across the over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple s the over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple of he over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple of days. over we'll see rather mixed weather con next couple of days. some the next couple of days. some outbreaks areas, outbreaks of rain in most areas, but will start to warm but things will start to warm up, particularly around the middle week. up, particularly around the mid

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bringing a fairly unsettled day certainly across england and wales. heavy thundery wales. some heavy thundery bursts in bursts of rain are possible in places as sunshine showers places as sunshine and showers though north and though towards the north and northwest the but things northwest of the uk. but things will around the will quieten down around the middle the week. middle part of the coming week. temperatures in the mid temperatures peaking in the mid 20 celsius could even climb to 30 celsius. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> welcome back. you're with dawn neesom on gb news on your tv and on digital radio. up next, it's the great british debate i am asking should ministers be sacked over the bibby stockholm ofcom farce? it is, isn't it? let's be honest, i've got a poll up right now on twitter or or whatever it is asking you that very question. should ministers be sacked over the bibby stockholm farce? send us an email gb views at gb news. com and tell us what you think . com and tell us what you think. cast your vote. now, that's all coming up .

gb news radio. >> hello. welcome back. you're with dawn neesom on gb news on tv and on digital radio. now let's have a look at what you've been saying. jess says , i think been saying. jess says, i think as a government is using charity funded lifeboats to bolster their operations , they should their operations, they should pay their operations, they should pay for them . meanwhile, jill pay for them. meanwhile, jill says the doctors strike is destroying the trust of the

pubucin destroying the trust of the public in the nhs. personally i feel really unsafe about going into hospital if doctors have so little regard for the hippocratic oath , the doctors on hippocratic oath, the doctors on the picket line, frankly look like they're having a jolly good time at glastonbury. very strong views there, but a lot of strong emotions. if you're waiting for an obviously. an appointment, obviously. meanwhile paul why meanwhile paul says, why does the keep pushing women's the media keep pushing women's football? , football? it's slow, unprofessional, no skills shown and schoolboy level compared to the men's . thank you for that, the men's. thank you for that, paul the men's. thank you for that, paul. and yes, right. okay. we're moving on. it's time for the great british debate. i'm asking should ministers be sacked over the bbc stockholm farce? the home office's stop the boats week hasn't quite gone to plan, has it? conservative ministers are facing calls to resign as all 39 migrants aboard the bibby stockholm had to be evacuated after legionella bacteria was discovered in the water supply . this latest blow water supply. this latest blow comes as the number of migrants crossing the channel in the last

five years hit 100,000. the barge is part of the government's migration policy intended to cut the cost of housing asylum seekers . but it's housing asylum seekers. but it's not been smooth sailing , with not been smooth sailing, with delays over safety concerns and a flurry of legal challenges . as a flurry of legal challenges. as shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock said the government had turned itself into a laughing stock, while top tory david davis says this week's shows the startling incompetence of the home office. so for the great british debate, i am asking should ministers actually be sacked over the bibby stockholm farce? now joining me is a former chief immigration officer at uk border force, kevin saunders , former force, kevin saunders, former labour special adviser and columnist paul richards. labour special adviser and columnist paul richards . and no columnist paul richards. and no to the barge campaigner martin summers . martin, to the barge campaigner martin summers. martin, i'm going to come to you first, actually, because the awful tragedy we've seen overnight in the channel with migrants losing their lives

. how does it make you feel about the barge situation as a whole? obviously, your group is very, very vocal about it being unfair on the community and unfair on the community and unfair on the community and unfair on migrants. so when you witness the tragedy we've seen overnight , how do you feel about overnight, how do you feel about what the government's handling of the situation is ? well i just of the situation is? well i just think that the barge itself was supposed to be held as some sort of solution to the hotel issue. >> and now it's just working out as just one great big expensive embarrassment. >> you know , they they make they >> you know, they they make they make these sweeping kind of ridiculous ideas . ridiculous ideas. >> the rwanda plan didn't take off the bibby stockholm home plan is now sinking along the whole idea of these ridiculous plans that they're just not thinking about, just aren't working. >> it's just not not working. >> it's just not not working. >> it's just not not working. >> i mean , he said it was >> i mean, he said it was a perfectly decent accommodation .

perfectly decent accommodation. >> well, really, you know, a pubuc >> well, really, you know, a public health expert said that the bacteria would have been an obvious thing to test on the whole thing is just so badly managed from top to bottom. >> what what's the next thing that's going to go wrong ? that's going to go wrong? >> kevin, let's can you answer that question ? can you say that? that question? can you say that? no heads should not roll and the government are i'm assuming by that comment doing an accept job. but, you know, rwanda , the job. but, you know, rwanda, the barges , the tents, the ascension barges, the tents, the ascension islands , none of these things islands, none of these things seem to be stopping the boats crossing and people losing their lives is no , they're not. lives is no, they're not. >> but if you if we deal with rwanda first, that hasn't been achieved . and because of the achieved. and because of the interference of the courts . so interference of the courts. so we can't really judge rwanda until all we've got a judgement

from the supreme court saying that we can send people off there and watch what happens then. then you will see you will see a reduction in people coming across the channel now going on to the barge. it hasn't been exactly a success this week. but on the other hand, you can't really blame ministers for the fact that there's a legionnaires outbreak on the boat that's down, unfortunately, to the civil servants and the people managing who, um, who said it was okay for it, for people to board. so i would imagine that this afternoon when the home secretary has her meeting there are going to be some people with some sore ears because you can't you can't you just can't blame the politicians for an outbreak of legionnaires . of legionnaires. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> surely the buck stops with the boss. suella braverman is

the boss. suella braverman is the boss. suella braverman is the boss in this case, so she has to answer questions on what's happened. i mean, paul richards , what do you make of i richards, what do you make of i mean, nothing seems to be working. and as we've heard in the news, people are still dying in those boats . in those boats. >> i mean, if you don't approach this with a degree of compassion , then you should have a word with yourself. >> frankly, i mean, six more dead overnight and hundreds in the water. >> the problem of dawn is not, you know, whether it's a big enough a boat or whether it's clean enough or whether there are the problem are enough hotels. the problem is not dealing with it as is we're not dealing with it as source . and the only way to stop source. and the only way to stop the boats is to smash the gangs. >> got smash those >> you've got to smash those gangs making money out gangs that are making money out of people who have a really, you know, perfectly laudable desire to make a better life for themselves, something that we all share. >> but the british minister don't seem to be able to coordinate with their french and belgian counterparts , seems to

belgian counterparts, seems to be beyond their wit to just get together and sort this out and put the people in jail who are profiting off this inhumane traffic. so that's that's how you do it. stop the boats. you smash the gangs. should ministers resign too easy? frankly i think, you know, just blaming a minister and, you know, deputy heads must roll and all that. i don't think is the answer. the fault lies in the design of the policy, which is obviously a palpably failing . obviously a palpably failing. >> right. unfortunately, that's all we've got time for in this section of the show. that's kevin saunders , paul richards kevin saunders, paul richards and martine simons, thank you very much for joining and martine simons, thank you very much forjoining me and martine simons, thank you very much for joining me this afternoon. an incredibly heated topic that is well, it's going topic that is well, it's going to go on and on until we find a solution and people are still dying . you're with dawn neesom dying. you're with dawn neesom on gb news on tv and digital radio. after the break, we'll continue with the great british debate i'm asking, should ministers be sacked over the bibby stockholm vase? we'll hear your thoughts . well, you'll hear

your thoughts. well, you'll hear my thoughts on my panel. broadcaster lizzie candy and former labour party adviser matthew lazar. but first, it's those news headlines . those news headlines. >> it's 432. i'm aaron armstrong in the gp newsroom. six people have died after a small boat carrying over 50 migrants got into difficulties in the channel earlier this morning . the french earlier this morning. the french maritime authorities say their search efforts are continuing with up to two people still missing. the vessel got into trouble off the coast of calais, british and french coast guards combined to rescue more than 50 people, some of whom have been brought to dover. campaigners have described the deaths as an appalling and preventable tragedy . appalling and preventable tragedy. immigration appalling and preventable tragedy . immigration officials tragedy. immigration officials have arrested seven people in northern ireland as part of a crackdown on illegal workers. it was one of several raids across the uk in the past few days. included in the arrests, a

female chinese national at a restaurant in county down a second chinese man was allowed to voluntarily return to the repubuc to voluntarily return to the republic of ireland. the takeaways owner now faces a fine of up to £20,000 as 80 people have now been confirmed dead as a result of wildfires on the hawaiian island of maui. but that number is set to rise as hundreds remain unaccounted for . fresh evacuations are underway today as the flames move towards the town of kaanapali . residents the town of kaanapali. residents from nearby islands have loaded recreation boats and jet skis with supplies . as for those in with supplies. as for those in emergency shelters and england have beaten colombia 2—1 to reach the semi—finals of the women's world cup. goals from lauren hemp and alessia russo helped the lionesses come from behind after colombia took the lead . they'll now face the lead. they'll now face the co—hosts australia on the 16th of august . more on all of our of august. more on all of our stories on our website. that is

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>> gb news the people's . channel >> gb news the people's. channel >> gb news the people's. channel >> welcome back. you're with dawn neesom on gb news and on digital radio. it's time for the great british debate drum roll. i'm asking should ministers be sacked over the bibby stockholm farce ? the home offices stopped farce? the home offices stopped the boats week hasn't gone quite according to plan, has it? ministers are facing calls to resign as all 39 migrants on board the bibby stockholm had to be evacuated after legionella bacteria was discovered in the water supply. this latest blow comes as the number of migrants crossing the channel in the last five years hit 1000. so for the great british debate, i am asking should ministers be sacked over the bibby stockholm farce ? let's see what my panel farce? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by a

broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and a former labour party adviser, matthew lazor . thank adviser, matthew lazor. thank you very much for joining me this afternoon . obviously awful this afternoon. obviously awful happenings overnight. the tragedy of six people losing their lives and some missing. but we just don't seem to be able to crack this problem. matthew, do we? the boat was yeah , i mean, it's just it's yeah, i mean, it's just it's absolutely heartbreaking . absolutely heartbreaking. >> and i think it was a reminder that sometimes in this debate, when you say that should when you say that we should stop the people me the boats and people like me sort left of the sort of on the left of the spectrum political spectrum of the political spectrum, get stick spectrum, sometimes get stick from people left on the from people further left on the political saying, oh, political spectrum saying, oh, you all just you know, that's all just playing into the reason to stop the not just because the boats is not just because people are worried to hear about immigration. also because people are worried to hear about immig huge. also because people are worried to hear about immighuge human;o because people are worried to hear about immig huge human cost cause people are worried to hear about immig huge human cost thate of the huge human cost that we've today. sadly, all too we've seen today. sadly, all too all too rarely for too many of those who are coming here on these , you know, these very these, you know, these very rickety boats. so i mean, it's a reminder that we need a solution and we need a solution for last. and sadly, as we've seen with the barge , we haven't got one the barge, we haven't got one

because farce. because the barge is a farce. it's a solution. because the barge is a farce. it'syeah. solution. because the barge is a farce. it's yeah. lizzie,)n. because the barge is a farce. it's yeah. lizzie, i|. because the barge is a farce. it's yeah. lizzie, i mean, did you >> yeah. lizzie, i mean, did you do you think anyone will ever go back on to barge now or do back on to that barge now or do we to find another solution? >> i said from start , this >> i said from the start, this barge is just a gimmick. it's never going work. and you never going to work. and you know, i knew i mean , i just know, i knew i mean, ijust think, what is this government doing time and time again ? any, doing time and time again? any, any any solutions? they think they have don't work or don't happen. they have don't work or don't happen . look at rwanda. you happen. look at rwanda. you know, the barge. now we've got the, you know, the marquees that's going to happen in none of the solutions . of the solutions. >> ireland this week as well. oh it's a monstrous disaster , peter. >> and i'm sorry rishi his five pledges, if any of them are going to ever work. but the only pledge he should get is the wax to wash his desk and empty his drawers and move out. and i'm afraid braverman's got to go. no it's embarrassing . it's it's embarrassing. it's embarrassing that absolutely should role heads should look at it. >> let's think about it this

time. last week, there was zero zero migrants on the barge. this time this week there were zero migrants on barge. it's just migrants on the barge. it's just as says , it's as lizzie absolutely says, it's trying to problems by trying to sort problems by gimmicks . and they think the gimmicks. and they think and the problem is, if politically for them, because they them, it's stupid because they backfire. would be much backfire. so it would be much better if the barge had never been mentioned . yes. problem better if the barge had never been rstill oned . yes. problem better if the barge had never been rstill bead . yes. problem better if the barge had never been rstill be there.s. problem better if the barge had never been rstill be there. but problem better if the barge had never been rstill be there. but jthelem would still be there. but at the moment, we've got the problem and costing and the barge. it's costing a fortune and is just a joke. so the barges, we need a solution, a proper solution. >> the barges can only hold 506 people and last week, i think on one actual boat there was 750 that came over. >> but so it's not it's not it's not a ripple in the ocean , is not a ripple in the ocean, is it? and it's just disastrous. it's preposterous . it's not fair it's preposterous. it's not fair for anybody. and it's an absolute joke. and what were they going to do, have these they going to do, have all these barges a movie , barges like, you know, a movie, you know, like kevin costner, waterworld , all these barges all waterworld, all these barges all over and you know, over the place. and you know, the want it. the communities didn't want it. it's not it's never going to work. >> the interesting thing with this problem is, is the left and the right and local communities

all agree that it's not a solution. it doesn't help anybody. it doesn't help the migrants . it doesn't help the migrants. it doesn't help the local communities. and it certainly is proving to be probably quite lethal as well. >> yeah. and sadly, don't look, rishi is not stopping the boats. he said stop the boats and he is not doing that. he's not dealing with the crux, the grass roots , with the crux, the grass roots, which is the gangs. and now these gangs who stuffed all these gangs who stuffed all these people , these poor people these people, these poor people onto boat and we've now got onto this boat and we've now got deaths and it was really worrying what mark was saying. disgusting yeah. we're hearing more people boat, more more people on the boat, more people individual boats. people on the individual boats. >> really >> and that was really why i asked size of that asked him the size of that boat, because people because if there was 60 people on dinghies, we're on one of those dinghies, we're used the problem we've got >> but the problem we've got regards to what side of the political divide you're on is , political divide you're on is, is we need an overnight solution . an obviously, we all know that there needs to be, you know , there needs to be, you know, smoother, sort of like, you know, asylum applications process getting through that backlog, a much more efficient

system for that for migration in general . but that's not going to general. but that's not going to happen overnight. >> no . >> no. >> no. >> so what is the answer? >> so what is the answer? >> well, i think one of the answers, is one of the answers, which is one of the ideas and ideas labour's put forward and there bullet. and, ideas labour's put forward and therknow, bullet. and, ideas labour's put forward and therknow, but bullet. and, ideas labour's put forward and therknow, but bfixzt. and, you know, but is to fix countries where it's clearly safe to return people. you effectively need to be doing a conveyor belt that are conveyor belt so that people are here days , not weeks. here for days, not weeks. and we've a little bit of that we've seen a little bit of that from this government with albania. an email albania. i mean, i got an email this ryanair saying, this week from ryanair saying, you holiday to you know, come on holiday to albania obviously albania. and yet obviously a lot of albania coming of people in albania are coming here, not for holiday. so here, not for a holiday. so clearly, people can be sent back to countries that are safe enough, not just that people can go british go there, but for british tourists expand tourists. so we need to expand that to all those countries on the safe list. >> effectively turnaround. we've two separate issues >> we've got two separate issues because we've got 180,000 that are still waiting to be are still being waiting to be processed , some for year, processed, some up for a year, which is absolutely disgusting. and unfair for them. it's not fair for them. but, you know, what are these people now going back to another hotel? are there any more hotels? is the any more hotels? this is the problem. >> what do overnight? >> what do we do overnight? >> what do we do overnight? >> got to do >> but what we've got to do is literally stop the stop

literally stop the fall, stop the get the border force the boats, get the border force on borders . france, on the borders. france, obviously, let's stop giving money to them because they don't seem be them. and money to them because they don't seejust be them. and money to them because they don't seejust are them. and money to them because they don't seejust a waste them. and money to them because they don't seejust a waste andthem. and money to them because they don't seejust a waste and wasteand money to them because they don't seejust a waste and waste ofd it's just a waste and waste of money. the cohen deal isn't. and i'm deal isn't i'm sorry the current deal isn't working. out of working. take a leaf out of australia's just turn australia's book and just turn them back. they have to be returned. >> the interesting thing, matthew , is labour haven't ruled matthew, is labour haven't ruled out barges. out using barges. >> no, i mean if there are people the barge, well if and people on the barge, well if and when labour into when labour comes into government will government then the barge will have a have to remain in use for a limited time. but really limited time. but it really isn't of isn't a solution. i mean one of the has is the other ideas labour has is to take it wouldn't take the money that it wouldn't be would be spent on rwanda. of course, sent course, at the moment we've sent more secretaries on photo more home secretaries on photo opportunities to rwanda than we have seekers, i.e. zero. have asylum seekers, i.e. zero. and we've got through a fair few home labour home secretaries. so labour would that and spend would take that money and spend it new police unit to work, it on a new police unit to work, cross to work europe, it on a new police unit to work, crcactually to work europe, it on a new police unit to work, crcactually try) work europe, it on a new police unit to work, crcactually try and rk europe, it on a new police unit to work, crcactually try and try europe, it on a new police unit to work, crcactually try and try andrope, it on a new police unit to work, crcactually try and try and fixe, to actually try and try and fix it at source. but it's hard. there's no easy there's no costing 6 million a day, if not more . more. >> and there's already over 400 hotels in the uk that are packed full of migrants.

>> three years ago, it was £20 a night was the average because obviously the easy pickings, you know, kind of hostel know, of kind of hostel accommodation was being used. know, of kind of hostel acc0|it'sodation was being used. know, of kind of hostel acc0|it's £100�*n was being used. know, of kind of hostel acc0|it's £100 a was being used. know, of kind of hostel acc0|it's £100 a night eing used. know, of kind of hostel acc0|it's £100 a night ong used. know, of kind of hostel acc0|it's £100 a night on average now it's £100 a night on average because they've run out of anywhere them in. anywhere cheap to put them in. >> she's to i'm sorry. >> she's got to go. i'm sorry. she's go. absolutely. and she's got to go. absolutely. and i have to get rid of i think we have to get rid of the judges. know the european judges. i know you don't because we don't agree with me because we will get a plane off will never, ever get a plane off to rwanda without , you know, why to rwanda without, you know, why are we listening to european judges? let's do it. and turn those boats back. >> that's why i love her. >> that's why i love her. >> strong opinions , indeed. >> strong opinions, indeed. that's what it's all about. but this show is nothing without you and views. so let's welcome and your views. so let's welcome one of our great british voices this is your opportunity to be on the and tell us what you on the show and tell us what you really the topics on the show and tell us what you really discussing. the topics on the show and tell us what you really discussing. this topics on the show and tell us what you really discussing. this hour.s on the show and tell us what you really discussing. this hour. we we're discussing. this hour. we are heading to bristol to speak with regular voice , lee harris. with regular voice, lee harris. lee, good afternoon. thank you for joining us this afternoon . for joining us this afternoon. you've heard what the panel have had to say about heads rolling over the bibby stockholm fast, as it's called. what do as it's being called. what do you make of this ? you make of this? >> i agree with a lot of what

the panel just said , although the panel just said, although i do take a slightly more nuanced approach on the barge itself. >> so, you know, there's absolute no doubt that the problem with legionnaires is very embarrassing for the government . but instead of government. but instead of sacking ministers, i just want them to sort it. i mean , why them to sort it. i mean, why they even moved people onto the barge before the test results came back ? i honestly know. >> you it wouldn't >> you know, it wouldn't actually me if this was actually surprise me if this was down woke hating down to our woke tory hating civil service who are ideologically opposed to the government . government policy. >> but that's another conversation. you know, conversation. but you know, i agree. this is ridiculous and the optics are terrible. but let's just keep things in perspective. is the kind of perspective. this is the kind of nuanced i have to this nuanced approach i have to this this a pretty standard test, this is a pretty standard test, and it was basically a timing issue . the water be treated issue. the water will be treated and the problem will likely to be resolved in a matter of days. no how woke left no matter how much the woke left cry overall , the cry about it. but overall, the standard of the accommodation is fine . these barges have fine. these barges have been chartered by the private sector and you the reviews and if you look at the reviews on sea oil on their website, north sea oil workers who've chartered the

exact barge loved it so exact same barge loved it so much they extended the contract for another months and for another eight months and they might complain those who are but it's are going on board. but it's certainly nicer than certainly not a lot nicer than a tent in calais. but what we have to remember is and this is the overarching point i wanted to make, biggest con was make, is the biggest con was never to be a long term never meant to be a long term solution to illegal migration. the barge is primarily there to help reduce the extortionate hotel bills the public are paying hotel bills the public are paying to house illegal migrants, which, as we know, is a eye—watering £6 million a day. that's the farce . if there if that's the farce. if there if there ever was one. so i get the logic . but the real farce , as logic. but the real farce, as lizzie quite brilliantly put a minute ago, is that our entire our immigration system is broken and the fact we still have small boats illegally entering the uk in huge numbers and people are tragically dying, it just has to stop. we need a deterrent and we need to sort the problem out at source . you know, i'll finish on source. you know, i'll finish on this. you know what's even more worrying is if and when labour gets in, this is a party you

openly say that they want an accepting and welcoming country for illegal immigrants. they hate environment hate this hostile environment for illegal migration. it's just going to get much worse. it's going to get much worse. it's going to get much worse. it's going to be a green light for criminal criminal gangs. and if they don't do that, they'll probably have amnesty probably have like an amnesty where just basically let where they just basically let everyone anyway. so it's not everyone in anyway. so it's not going to get any better under laboun going to get any better under labour. get labour. it'll probably get worse, agree with people worse, but i agree with people when say the conservatives when they say the conservatives need punished at the need need to get punished at the ballot . as you know, this is ballot box. as you know, this is been a problem for successive governments. i appreciate that, but you can't let them get away with i totally that. lee with it. i totally get that. lee lee, thank you very much. >> harris joining >> lee harris there joining us from again, very , very from bristol. again, very, very strong this ongoing strong opinions on this ongoing debate that let's be honest, no one really seems to have an answer for the overnight situation that we're facing now . you're with dawn neesom on gb .you're with dawn neesom on gb news, on your tv and on digital radio. still to come, it's our weekly royal roundup with the wonderful angela levin . that's wonderful angela levin. that's after this check up on the weather . weather. >> the temperatures rising , boxt

>> the temperatures rising, boxt solar power sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello, i'm marco petagna. here's your latest weather update from the met office. we'll see rather mixed weather conditions across the over conditions across the uk over the days . some the next couple of days. some outbreaks in most areas, outbreaks of rain in most areas, but start warm but things will start to warm up, around the up, particularly around the middle week . middle part of the coming week. low pressure is anchored towards the the the north—west of the uk at the moment, showers from moment, feeding in showers from the west and southwest, fairly tightly packed isobars. so it's fairly breezy out and about certainly evening . certainly through the evening. some still in some showers still packing in across the uk from north and across the uk from the north and west , but across the uk from the north and west, but becoming across the uk from the north and west , but becoming increasingly west, but becoming increasingly confined northern confined towards those northern and we go and western areas as we go through period and western areas as we go throtthe period and western areas as we go throtthe and period and western areas as we go throtthe and eastzriod and western areas as we go throtthe and east tending with the south and east tending to see drier conditions, to see some drier conditions, some spells at too. some clear spells at times, too. but wherever you are, it's a pretty warm night. temperatures holding the range, 13 to pretty warm night. temperatures ho celsius, the range, 13 to pretty warm night. temperatures ho celsius, 16 the range, 13 to pretty warm night. temperatures ho celsius, 16 ine range, 13 to pretty warm night. temperatures ho celsius, 16 in the nge, 13 to pretty warm night. temperatures ho celsius, 16 in the south—east 16 celsius, 16 in the south—east is 61. in fahrenheit . as for is 61. in fahrenheit. as for sunday, well, it's another day of sunshine and showers. the showers most frequent and most widespread the north and widespread towards the north and northeast of the uk could still be thundery ones around be 1 or 2 thundery ones around as the on as we go through the day on

sunday. the sunday. whereas towards the south and east, showers more south and east, the showers more scattered, more in the way of sunny with sunny spells here and with lighter winds. and saturday lighter winds. and on saturday it a little bit it should feel a little bit warmer about. warmer out and about. temperatures peaking temperatures generally peaking in locally low in the high teens, locally low 20s towards the north more widely in the low 20s towards the and southeast are high the south and southeast are high there in london, celsius, 73 there in london, 23 celsius, 73 in fahrenheit. as for in fahrenheit. but as for monday, with outbreaks of rain will in from the will sweep in from the southwest, fairly southwest, bringing a fairly unsettled certainly across unsettled day certainly across england and wales. some heavy thundery bursts of rain are possible places , sunshine and possible in places, sunshine and showers towards north showers though towards the north and uk. but and northwest of the uk. but things will quieten down around the the coming the middle part of the coming week. in week. temperatures peaking in the mid 20 celsius could even climb to 30 celsius. >> the temperatures rising . boxt >> the temperatures rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news . on gb news. >> you're with dawn neesom on gb news on tv and on digital radio. coming up in the next hour, our next great british debate. i'm asked , is britain becoming empty asked, is britain becoming empty car? that's going to be another

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has finally been removed from the royal family website three years after it was agreed he would lose it in the megxit agreement. i can't believe it's been actually, each been three years. actually, each saturday you rundown saturday we give you the rundown on what is happening and in those royal palaces at and in california, obviously so and who better to delve into this than royal biographer angela levin who joins me now. angela hello. see you. thanks for joining who joins me now. angela hello. see you. thanks forjoining us. see you. thanks for joining us. afternoon on a on a saturday afternoon. now, angela, what it is happening what's the latest on harry? he seems to be having quite a successful tour , if quite a successful tour, if that's right of the far that's the right word of the far east. that's very east. yeah that's very interesting the harry interesting because the harry that we've seen in japan two days ago in singapore for days ago and in singapore for today, even though he was he got polo, it was 7 to 7. >> so he didn't win. is it the old harry that was full of laughter and fun and seemed quite relaxed and you don't know whether that's because he's got away from meghan a bit. and i'm being nervous that she's, you know, he's got to do the right

thing or he just feels that it's quite nice if he takes the front line and gets a bit of satisfaction for what he's doing because the last year or so he's walked right behind us, sometimes behind her mother , as sometimes behind her mother, as well as if he's a sort of servant there to help her along. so maybe he just feels a bit happier being on his own because he is. >> there was one of his best mates as well, isn't he? he is polo. >> he's there a polo. >> he's there with a mate. i don't it's his best mate, don't think it's his best mate, but it's certainly not the other person's mate because his person's best mate because his closest friends are zara and her husband, but he's got along with him because they they like him, but he's not actually a super best friend. >> right? so you i mean, by inference, i'm guessing here that sort of like meghan probably makes her husband quite nervous. >> well, i think she does make him nervous because she's very demanding woman. and if he doesn't things right, she doesn't get things right, she gets cross with him. but gets very cross with him. but i think what's also will make her cross something that he can't avoid is that he's lost his hrh

as you said, after three years and that was really done very quietly by the royal family taking it away from their website. now we've all a lot of people have said that. king charles was too shy or didn't want to was too easy going or he was too soft with harry. but obviously he was the one who actually got this going wrong. but the point is, as well, actually got this going wrong. but the point is, as well , that but the point is, as well, that harry should be removed from , harry should be removed from, um, his position, his succession and the line is still fifth in line to the throne. >> so it's a way down on the website now, hasn't he . website now, hasn't he. >> well, it's way down on the website, but he still is fifth in line. mean , so you know, if in line. i mean, so you know, if deliberately unfortunate that charles would go and then william would go, you know the children are much too young. and i think it's quite right. he doesn't like this country. he doesn't like this country. he doesn't like this country. he doesn't like what the royal family is doing. he should be taken out of this . the taken out of this. the succession line . and that would

succession line. and that would make it very different and much happier. so you think he should be removed completely from succession? >> yes , absolutely. >> yes, absolutely. >> yes, absolutely. >> he doesn't deserve to be a succession. we couldn't possibly have him as charles would ever be brave enough to do that. yes. i'm sure that's the next in line . really? >> do you think that's what's coming next? >> but slowly, slowly. it >> yeah, but slowly, slowly. it won't think won't happen for a bit. i think they wait until meghan's they might wait until meghan's memoirs come out. if another non stop attack on on. she's not right royal family. yes she is writing her memoirs. oh dear. yes. so we'll hear yet again moan and groan after. what a terrible time she's had. >> so, i mean there was a poll in america this week that revealed william is actually the more popular member of the royal family. yes >> oh, no, no. he's the most popular person they know of the world. i mean, what they feel in america. he's gone right to the top. oh, wow . yes. and then top. oh, wow. yes. and then biden is number three and the president of ukraine, lynskey is

number two. so they've really chosen of all these top men who they like best. and that is william. and i'm sure harry will be spitting. it's not going to be spitting. it's not going to be very, very cross . no. be very, very cross. no. >> and there is , you know, the >> and there is, you know, the late queen never stopped hoping there would be a reconciliation with harry and meghan. that's not going to happen now, is it? >> oh, no, she really wanted that. she was very strict that. but she was very strict and made them promise that they wouldn't hrh. she said they wouldn't use hrh. she said they could it, but they couldn't could keep it, but they couldn't use it and they agreed with that and they've broken it loads of times , sometimes necessarily times, sometimes not necessarily their , whereas it put on their fault, whereas it put on top of what they're doing for a charity something like that. charity or something like that. but they could have actually got rid it off because rid of it, taken it off because they'd broken a promise with the queen. so always felt that queen. so i'd always felt that nothing would happen while the queen and king charles queen was there and king charles wouldn't. then prince charles wouldn't. then prince charles wouldn't anything because he wouldn't do anything because he wouldn't do anything because he wouldn't want to upset his mother. but now she's passed and it's just coming up to the first

anniversary in september that he can actually do more what he thinks is right. and i think the way he's attacked harry's attacked camilla is completely unfair . unfair. >> that's yeah. >> that's yeah. >> and i think that would that was done really to make king charles more unhappy. he could take it for himself, i charles more unhappy. he could take it for himself , i believe, take it for himself, i believe, but i don't think he could bear it for wife, had such a it for his wife, who had such a terrible beginning it for his wife, who had such a terribishe beginning it for his wife, who had such a terribishe devoted beginning it for his wife, who had such a terribishe devoted herself1ing it for his wife, who had such a terribishe devoted herself tog it for his wife, who had such a terribishe devoted herself to him when she devoted herself to him to support him to and do the best she can for the country . best she can for the country. >> angela, unfortunately, i could talk to all we could talk to you all day. we have we're running have to move on. we're running out thank very out of time. thank you very much. doesn't very much. but it doesn't sound very positive though, positive for harry, though, does it? neesom it? you're watching dawn neesom on to come in the on gb news. more to come in the next hour . next hour. you're with dawn neesom on gb news on tv and on digital radio for the next hour, me and my

panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines right now. coming up, the great british debate this hour. the great british debate this hour . i'm the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, britain hour. i'm asking, is britain becoming anti—car? but first, let's find out what's happening in the latest news headlines with . aaron with. aaron >> very good evening to you. it's 5:02. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. six people have died after a small boat carrying migrants sank in the channel earlier this morning. french maritime authorities say a number of people remain missing. the rnli and the french coastguard, though , rescued more coastguard, though, rescued more than 50 people from the vessel which got into difficulties. about five miles off the coast of calais. some of those some 20 migrants were taken to dover. home secretary suella braverman, who chaired a meeting with border force officials, earlier, described it as a tragic loss of life. our home and security editor mark white says the rescue operation continues .

rescue operation continues. >> there is a possibility that more people who were thrown into the water are still out there, still missing, so that search is involving we're told, aerial assets in the form of coastguard helicopter mas lifeboats from both the uk and the french side. and of course , those various and of course, those various patrol boats from france and border force vessels . border force vessels. >> seven people have been arrested in northern ireland as part of a crackdown on illegal workers. it's the latest in a number of home office enforcement raids across the uk . a chinese woman was detained in a takeaway in warrenpoint in county down. a chinese man was allowed to voluntarily return to the republic of ireland. the takeaways owner now faces a fine of up to £20,000 as the uk has fallen behind many of the other major nations when it comes to the money it allocates to fixing potholes . the annual expenditure potholes. the annual expenditure fell . by 50% between 2006 and

fell. by 50% between 2006 and 2019, to down £2 billion. it's estimated the cost in england and wales alone would be £14 billion per year. now the us , billion per year. now the us, japan, new zealand and sweden have all increased their spending by 50. only italy and ireland have seen bigger percentage cuts . marc morrell, a percentage cuts. marc morrell, a campaigner as mr pothole, campaigner known as mr pothole, says spending in the uk has fallen even further up until 2019 there was a you know, only investing 51% of what we should have done compared to 2006. >> but that's even worse because that 2019 figure doesn't equate to what currently spend is 1.36 billion. and if you include inflation, we're spending 25% of what we were in 2006 on maintaining our roads. >> 80 people have now died as a result of the wildfires on the hawaiian island of maui . hawaiian island of maui. however, authorities say that number is set to rise dramatically with hundreds of people unaccounted for. a people still unaccounted for. a fresh, fresh. evacuations are

underway as far as continue to burn on the northwest side of the island . questions now are the island. questions now are being asked about whether residents were warned quickly enough. residents were warned quickly enough . and hawaii's attorney enough. and hawaii's attorney general is calling for a comprehensive review into how authorities responded to the wildfires . the duke of sussex wildfires. the duke of sussex has played a polo match, raising money for hiv sufferers in honour of his late mother. it was in aid of his charity, sentebale , which he co—founded sentebale, which he co—founded to help african children affected by poverty, inequality and hiv aids. he played against and hiv aids. he played against a singapore polo club team captained by his charities ambassador. his all long term friend, the argentine polo player nacho figueras . princess player nacho figueras. princess diana, pioneered efforts to challenge stigmas around the disease, holding hands and hugging patients with aids in the 1980s, when many still wrongly believed it could be contracted through casual contact . and england have beaten contact. and england have beaten

colombia 2—1 to reach the semi—finals of the women's world cup. goals from lauren, hemp and alessia russo helped the lionesses come from behind after colombia had taken the lead. they'll now face the co—hosts australia in four days time . on australia in four days time. on the 16th of august. this is gb news across the uk on tv , on news across the uk on tv, on digital radio and on your smart speaker too. that's it for the moment. and now it's back to dawn . dawn. >> thank you , aaron. this is gb >> thank you, aaron. this is gb news. i'm dawn neesom filling in for nana akua for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking it on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. mine are theirs and yours. most importantly, yours. we'll be debating , discussing and at debating, discussing and at times disagreeing . and join me times disagreeing. and join me on the panel today is lizzie cundy and matthew lazor . on the panel today is lizzie cundy and matthew lazor. but still to come, my difficult conversation today is a really

important one. it's a hard topic to talk about. i think it's important with one death every 40s around the world from suicide . i will be joined by suicide. i will be joined by rachel swan , ceo of grassroots rachel swan, ceo of grassroots suicide prevention, who are empowering people to save lives from suicide through educating, connecting and campaigning nationally. and for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is britain becoming anti—car ? with wales set to anti—car? with wales set to introduce a new 20 mile an hour speed limit ? and sadiq khan's speed limit? and sadiq khan's continuing with his ulez expansion is the british motorist always losing out? as always, you can email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet us at . gb news. and now it's time for this week's difficult conversation . an and it is conversation. an and it is a difficult conversation , but one difficult conversation, but one we all need to have . someone we all need to have. someone dies from suicide every 40s resulting in more deaths than

all the yearly victims of wars and natural disaster and twice as many as homicides. in the uk alone, approximately 150 people die by their by suicide every week . 1 in 15 will die by their by suicide every week. 1 in 15 will attempt suicide at some point in their life, and it's estimated in england and wales that at least 140,000 people go to hospital each year, having attempted suicide. suicide is also the leading cause of death for people under 35, which is just shocking, isn't it? now rachel swan is the ceo of grassroots suicide prevention , and their suicide prevention, and their campaign aims to reduce and change the stigma around suicide by talking openly about it, which is what we're doing now . which is what we're doing now. and joining me to discuss this isindeed and joining me to discuss this is indeed that ceo of grassroots suicide prevention, rachel swan. rachel well, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. really appreciate your time on saturday afternoon. rachel, this is an incredible, difficult

conversation to have, but it is so important we talk about it . so important we talk about it. can you just tell us a little bit more about what your organisation does and how you became involved in it ? became involved in it? >> yeah. dawn, thank you so much for having me on the show today . um, so we grassroots suicide prevention, we're a national charity focusing on suicide prevention and we've been working in that area for 20 years. um, you know, our mission is really to save, save more lives to suicide and we really specialise around connecting people to support educating and also campaigning . and and what, also campaigning. and and what, how did you get involved in it personally? >> rachel, if you don't mind me asking . asking. >> yeah, i've always had from a very young age, a real passion for supporting people, and i've done that throughout my career . done that throughout my career. but actually, you know, we know 135 people are affected by suicide. i've personally been affected by suicide. and so as many of the other people i've

also experienced real difficult trauma through childhood. that's one of the biggest risk factors around suicide, as many of us. so i really got a real passion for trying to help and bring those numbers down. they are increasing and we need to take more action as a whole community to really support people . to really support people. >> and how do you support people? i mean, obviously when people? i mean, obviously when people are are so depressed and so suffering from sort of like, you know, the sort of feelings that trigger suicidal thoughts , that trigger suicidal thoughts, how do you reach out to people? because it's so very often people keep this feelings to themselves . themselves. >> you're so right, dawn, and there's such a big stigma about which really prevents people from speaking out. so i would really encourage anybody that's listening to this today , if listening to this today, if you're having any suicidal thoughts or thoughts of that nature, really encourage you to speak out. speak to your friend, your neighbour, your work

colleague. just start talking and opening up because you'll be really surprised about the response. you know, as you said earlier, dawn, you know, 1 in 5 people will, will, will experience suicidal thoughts in their lifetime and that will be a really complex issue. there could be a whole range of reasons why someone's reached that point of crisis . it could that point of crisis. it could be domestic abuse. it could being bullied at school. it could really wide range. it could be a really wide range. it could be a really wide range. it could mental health issue . could be a mental health issue. but around mental but it's not just around mental health. people experiencing suicidal thoughts for many different reasons. so i think i would say definitely we've got a free stay alive mobile app which has been downloaded by nearly a million people. it's now across 212 countries. as you can find help in your local area . it's help in your local area. it's got 600 resources on it. so i really encourage people to download that. first and foremost . and also on our foremost. and also on our website , dawn, we've got a website, dawn, we've got a really good video called real talk and it's free and it really

teach you anybody about how to have that conversation to really help somebody open up and learn about the risk factors and the causes and be in that position to really help someone. anyone can do it . can do it. >> do you think, rachel? i'm one of the most shocking facts when we were researching what you do is the fact that so many young people will, you know, take their own lives. i mean, what what is the reason behind the fact that it is people under 35? >> there's a huge amount of research happening and it's evolving all the time . we know evolving all the time. we know like with adult suicide , there like with adult suicide, there are a multitude of factors . so are a multitude of factors. so that can be childhood trauma. it can be online, you know, online harms and gambling and substance misuse . and there is really, you misuse. and there is really, you know, there's a whole range of factors. but what we do know, as we as you said, dawn, is the biggest killer now of the under 35. really need to do as 35. and we really need to do as a whole community to do more at

grassroots. we've suicide prevention. we've training in schools now . so really teaching schools now. so really teaching teachers to be able to have those conversations with our students and also involved in research to teach students directly . so it's really directly. so it's really important that we are giving everybody the skills to be able to have those those conversations and open up and really break down that stigma . really break down that stigma. >> do you think that obviously the pandemic where enormous mental health issues going on with coping with the pandemic and the fact that we are we live less in community now? rachel, we don't talk to each other most of the time. we have our phones or a screen in front of us. so so how much more would it be? would it help if we actually stopped and talk to each other rather than sending a text message ? message? >> i think it's cool for everybody to be more compassionate. you know , in our compassionate. you know, in our communities. absolutely but there are so many charities like

grassroots suicide prevention and many others . i mean, we work and many others. i mean, we work with sort of 17 mental health charities all working together to improve access and the quality of those services. we're working with local authorities and the nhs. there are lots of lots of organisations really trying to help people. so i think it is it is there are a range of risk factors and it is about encouraging that conversation and open up and giving people the tools to be able to really support somebody. and for some people that will be ongoing suicidal ideation. so having, you know, getting access to the right pathways of support is really important. so and your the app again , is called stay alive. >> and that's available where you can get apps from on our website. >> dawn yeah which is prevent hyphen suicide .org uk and you can find everything that i've spoken about today on our website. >> brilliant rachel and the message is no matter how dark a place you're in, there is always

is a way out of it. that's brilliant. >> there's always hope with timely intervention and support. dawn there's always hope. that's brilliant. >> that's rachel swan there from grassroots suicide prevention. rachel, thank you so much for joining us and good luck with your work. it's very important what you do there. now if you are having a difficult time, you can contact. the can cut that contact. the samaritans day or night, 365 days a year, or call them for free on 1161, two, three. email them at jo at samaritans . org or them at jo at samaritans. org or visit them. visit samaritans.org to find out your nearest branch . the details are at the bottom of the screen and you can find grass roots suicide prevention charity's app. stay alive on the app charity's app. stay alive on the app store or google play store. we're doing very important work with them, so thank you so much for that, rachel. now coming up, it's the great british debate this hour. i'm asking is britain becoming anti—car ? but first, becoming anti—car? but first, let's find out what that weather's doing for you .

weather's doing for you. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello, i'm marco petagna . >> hello, i'm marco petagna. here's your latest weather update from the met office . update from the met office. we'll see rather mixed weather conditions uk over conditions across the uk over the days. some the next couple of days. some outbreaks most areas, outbreaks of rain in most areas, but will start to warm but things will start to warm up, particularly around the middle part of the coming week. low is anchored towards low pressure is anchored towards the the the north—west of the uk at the moment, feeding in showers from the southwest , a fairly the west and southwest, a fairly tightly so it's tightly packed isobars. so it's fairly breezy and about fairly breezy out and about certainly the evening. certainly through the evening. some to packing in some showers to packing in across the uk from the north and west, but becoming increasingly confined those northern confined towards those northern and as go and western areas as we go through the overnight period with and east tending through the overnight period wi'see and east tending through the overnight period wi'see some and east tending through the overnight period wi'see some drierd east tending through the overnight period wi'see some drier conditioninng through the overnight period wi'see some drier conditions ,1g to see some drier conditions, some spells times, too some clear spells at times, too . but wherever you it's . but wherever you are, it's a pretty night. temperatures pretty warm night. temperatures holding range , 13 to holding up in the range, 13 to 16 16 in the south—east 16 celsius, 16 in the south—east is 61. in fahrenheit . as for is 61. in fahrenheit. as for sunday, well, it's another day of sunshine and showers. the showers most frequent and most widespread north and widespread towards the north and northeast of uk still northeast of the uk could still be 1 thundery ones around

be 1 or 2 thundery ones around as through on as we go through the day on sunday, the sunday, whereas towards the south showers more south and east, the showers more scattered, the of scattered, more in the way of sunny spells here and with lighter and on saturday sunny spells here and with ligshould and on saturday sunny spells here and with ligshould and on saturday sunny spells here and with ligshould a nd on bitturday it should feel a little bit warmer and about warmer out and about temperatures generally peaking in , locally low in the high teens, locally low 20s the north more 20s towards the north more widely in the low 20s, towards the south southeast are high the south and southeast are high there london, 23 celsius, 73 there in london, 23 celsius, 73 in fahrenheit, as for monday with outbreaks of rain will sweep in from southwest, sweep in from the southwest, bringing unsettled day bringing a fairly unsettled day certainly heavy thundery wales. some heavy thundery bursts rain are possible in bursts of rain are possible in places , sunshine showers places, sunshine and showers though north and though towards the north and northwest uk. things northwest of the uk. but things will quieten down around the middle week. middle part of the coming week. temperatures the mid temperatures peaking in the mid 20 celsius could even climb to temperatures peaking in the mid 20 celsius aled even climb to temperatures peaking in the mid 20 celsius as that ven climb to temperatures peaking in the mid 20 celsius as that warm imb to temperatures peaking in the mid 20 celsius as that warm feeling 30 celsius as that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on . news >> welcome back. coming up, have my panel been paying attention to the news this week? oh, god . to the news this week? oh, god. we'll find out with our quick fire quiz. but up next, our

great british debate is britain becoming anti—car or

britain's news. channel right us. >> dawn neesom on gb news on tv and on digital radio. it's time for our great british debate this hour . for our great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is britain anti—car the welsh government? labour government, labour government, by the way, plans to enact a 20 miles an

hour per hour speed limit starting from next month , and it starting from next month, and it has been branded its own version of london's hated ulez scheme . a of london's hated ulez scheme. a petition against the plan has currently raised over 20,000 signatures. now is this ulez ideology spreading around the world? should motorists be punished? motorists i don't even drive. but motorists are blamed for everything wrong and 20 miles an hour. really. so for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is britain anti—car ? now, remember rishi anti—car? now, remember rishi sunak said he was on the side of the do believe him the motorist. do you believe him 7 the motorist. do you believe him ? i'm joined by former founder of fairfield howard cox, police local commentator peter spencer , director of car 26, and lois perry and former editor of labourlist peter edwards . wow. labourlist peter edwards. wow. a big panel debate here coming up right . i'm actually going to right. i'm actually going to start with lois, who is with me in the studio here. and she says she's got a good exclusive on this story. so lois, what is your story? >> well , if your story? >> well, if you want any answer whatsoever to is there an

official war on the motorists from our own government, you need look no further than the house of lords, environment and climate change report, which house of lords, environment and clima'outhange report, which house of lords, environment and clima'out quite report, which house of lords, environment and clima'out quite recently nthh house of lords, environment and clima'out quite recently .1ich came out quite recently. >> it's entitled in our hands behaviour change for climate and environmental goals . page 52. environmental goals. page 52. clause 170 please bear with me changing rules on the use of roads such as reduced speed limits, school streets, low traffic neighbourhoods and other measures which prioritise access for other road users and road pricing, congestion charging low emission zones, higher parking costs and workplace parking levies and other charges levied for private vehicle use. >> so basically what they're saying is that every single one of these measures is to get you out of your car. it's absolutely nothing to do with the environment movement. >> it's nothing to do with road safety. >> in fact, road deaths have gone up, according to the rac and the government figures recently. >> this is about getting you out of your car and it's in the house of lords report. >> this is a war on the motorists 100% right?

>> so let's come to you, howard cox. you are the founder of fair fuel mean , what do you fuel uk. i mean, what do you make of what lois has just said 7 make of what lois has just said ? sounds pretty scary , but lois ? sounds pretty scary, but lois has got it spot on as normal. >> i know lois very well. >> i know lois very well. >> i know lois very well. >> i work quite closely with lois on a number of issues. and, yes, the driver who generates something like the fifth or the sixth the sixth largest income to the treasury year as treasury every year is seen as a cash cow and is always blamed for everything to do with the ills of the planet. >> i'm afraid. yes, it is a war on motorists. there's not much i can add to that. >> i could go on forever about it. >> as you probably know. >> as you probably know. >> let's let's come to peter edwards, former editor of the labourlist . peter rishi sunak labourlist. peter rishi sunak said is on the side of the motorists. i mean, do you believe him ? believe him? >> well, rishi sunak is doing a political pivot born out of panic after some mixed by—election results . but, you by—election results. but, you know, let's go back to the substance . first all, substance. first of all, i wouldn't it a war. i don't wouldn't call it a war. i don't mean to be holier than thou, but there in there is actually a war in europe so europe at the moment. so i wouldn't call it a war, but

we're all upset over air quality. >> and remember , within >> and remember, air within the last had air last decade we've had air quality named on the death certificate of a child. >> one child. >> yeah, one child. >> yeah, one child. >> report actually makes it >> this report actually makes it very clear. >> sorry to interrupt. >> sorry to interrupt. >> sorry. let peter finish. >> sorry. let peter finish. >> i'd rather you didn't interrupt so air quality named on the death of a child for the first time. lois quoted a report, which is an official report, which is an official report . but report, which is an official report. but that's report, which is an official report . but that's from report, which is an official report. but that's from a house of lords committee. so they're backbenchers. >> it's important to point out to viewers, that's not a report by the government. the government and in fact, the opposition are concerned. and even a third party, lib dems, all the main parties are concerned about air quality . and concerned about air quality. and let me make another point, which is all public policy making is a trade off because there are tonnes of things we do tonnes of things we would do if we maximum we were pursuing maximum economic value. we were pursuing maximum ecoandic value. we were pursuing maximum ecoand hisalue. we were pursuing maximum ecoand his trade versus the >> and his trade off versus the health and impact. health and social impact. >> course the motor >> so of course the motor industry is really important for britain . britain. >> there's about 800,000 people working the motor industry working in the motor industry andifs working in the motor industry and it's great to have a manufacturing industry in britain. >> but bear in mind the cost to

the nhs of pollution and eating , dealing with people with respiratory problems as well. that's also a big cost and that can tragedy. can end in tragedy. >> sorry, your sound is >> peter sorry, your sound is quite bad at the moment, so we're going to have to come away from we can from you and hopefully we can correct . come to our correct that. let's come to our peter spencer this is now a huge political football, isn't it? motoring . and ulez and the 20 motoring. and ulez and the 20 mile an hour zone coming into wales. it does . it does feel wales. it does. it does feel like a war on the motorists . like a war on the motorists. >> well, i mean i have to plead guilty on all fronts here. i find 20 mile an hour speed limits , speed limits, a complete limits, speed limits, a complete pain in the no questions. and i drive a 14 year old, 2.5l super charged diesel mercedes. so i'm as as bad as you get. it might be very pretty. my car of course it's pink. it looks a bit like the barbie car, but it has got a stonking great engine. however

over behind all that there is the overarching reality, which is that we've seen freak weather conditions after freak weather conditions after freak weather conditions causing death and destruction halfway around the globe . and indeed only today , globe. and indeed only today, one of one of the top climate scientists has warned that it's coming at us faster than we think . and so i can see why think. and so i can see why there is a there is there is an attempt being made here to discourage car use, especially polluting car use. simply to sort of, you know, balance things out a little bit to change the zeitgeist, if you like. i mean, you look at old black and white movies and everyone had a on, right? okay. and then we had the cancer warnings and bit by bit, and then we had the cancer warnings and bit by bit , things warnings and bit by bit, things have changed. they go out in the interval of a theatre now and i find them on my top with a in my hand. so. but that's how things have changed. and i think that's what not only a british government, but across the western world, that's what

they're to do, is to make they're trying to do, is to make cars less . cars less. >> lois, lois, let's come back to you. so basically, the motorist cash cow and is motorist is a cash cow and is going to be a cash cow for whichever government we get coming in next. well absolutely right. >> and i'd just like to say to the to the last gentleman, other climate scientists are available . you know, you pay your money, you get the answer that you want. but yeah, they are a cash cow. and this is nothing. >> this report , he said, oh, >> this report, he said, oh, it's just a house of lords report . report. >> but report. » but >> but actually it's a very significant report. >> it's saying >> and basically it's saying this is nothing to do with air quality and everything to do with the net zero ideology that has its basis in neo marxism and nothing to do with saving the environment, because if it was, it wouldn't be doing a lot of the measures that it's doing. >> there's nothing about >> there's nothing green about electric >> there's nothing green about eleythey're the green >> they're the least green things can ever have. things that you can ever have. this is about getting us of this is about getting us out of our cars. >> p- p— that. >> let's come back to you , >> let's come back to you, peter. i think we've fixed your

sound glitch. so peter edwards , sound glitch. so peter edwards, what would you like to say to lois? it's a neo—marxist plot, basically . basically. >> well, i don't think it's ideological . ideological. >> and actually it's one of the things that are born completely out pragmatic politics. go out of pragmatic politics. go back to that point i was making before you know, people, before you know, if more people, especially cities , have especially in cities, have respiratory , that's respiratory problems, that's potentially a tragedy for them if they succumb lung cancer. if they succumb to lung cancer. but also it's a cost for but also it's a huge cost for the nhs . i wouldn't put driving the nhs. i wouldn't put driving the nhs. i wouldn't put driving the same bracket as smoking. >> i think that would too >> i think that would be far too simplistic. >> i think that would be far too simsostic. >> i think that would be far too simso do. >> i think that would be far too simso do you have figures to >> so do you have figures to back you've just said? back up what you've just said? do figures to back up do you have figures to back up that have died from that people have died from respiratory and lung respiratory problems and lung cancer either due to people driving around in london? because know that there isn't because i know that there isn't that those those figures and that those those figures and that information does not exist . so can you it to the . so can you supply it to the viewers ? please don't don't. viewers? please don't don't. >> lois, i did in my previous answer when you cut me off as well . air quality has been named well. air quality has been named on the death certificate of one

person in 15 years. >> lois is rude to interrupt. um for the first time after an interesting run the second time, i'm sure we'd all accept that's a tragedy. >> we also accept that's just a fact. it's not a fiscal opinion. it's a fact about our air quality. tragically bringing short the life of a child that particular child was born with with a very rare kind of asthma. >> but i can see your point on that particular one individual, right? >> i think we're going to have to leave it there. unfortunately i think we'll to an end i think we'll come to an end again, absolute stonking again, an absolute stonking debate there. again very passionate and interesting . do passionate and interesting. do you actually believe that rishi sunak neck is on the side of the motorist or do you feel as a motorist, you're being penalised and how are you going to get around doing your business if you're a white van man, for example , if you're allowed example, if you're not allowed to and not to drive your car and you're not allowed over 20 allowed to drive it over 20 miles in wales, right. miles an hour in wales, right. okay, on. you are with okay, we move on. you are with dawn neesom on gb news on tv and digital radio. coming up, we'll continue our great british

debate. i'm asking, is britain becoming anti—car? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel. lizzie cundy and matthew laterza. but first, the news headlines with . aaron >> very good evening to you. it's 5:30. i'm aaron armstrong . it's 5:30. i'm aaron armstrong. the gb newsroom. six people have died after a small boat carrying more than 50 migrants got into difficulties in the channel earlier this morning. french authorities say their search efforts are continuing. they say up to two people remain missing. the vessel got into trouble off the coast of calais. a british and french coastguard combined to rescue more than 50 people for more than 20 of those have been brought to dover. campaigners have described the deaths as an appalling and preventable tragedy . around 200 preventable tragedy. around 200 police officers and staff in northern ireland were not informed of the theft of a laptop. radio and documents contained their names for almost a month. that's according to the

psni, which mistakenly shared details of 10,000 members of staff on tuesday . now a group staff on tuesday. now a group set up to assess the risk to officers caused by the breach has had more than 600 referrals. chief constable simon byrne says he's deeply sorry . and 80 people he's deeply sorry. and 80 people have now been confirmed dead as a result of wildfires on the hawaiian island of maui. with that number set to rise, hundreds remain unaccounted for. authorities have warned the recovery will cost billions of pounds and may take years . as pounds and may take years. as hawaii's attorney general has announced a comprehensive review into how well authorities responded to the wildfires . and responded to the wildfires. and england have beaten colombia 2—1 to reach the semi—finals of the women's world cup goals from lauren hemp and alessia russo helped the lionesses come from behind after colombia took the lead. they will now face the co—hosts of australia on the 16th of august. more on all of our stories on our website, gbnews.com. now it's back to

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and this is gb news on your tv and on digital radio. now it's time for our great british debate. this hour. i'm asking is britain anti—car the welsh labour government plans to enact a 20mph speed limit starting from next month and it has been branded its own version of london's much hated ulez scheme . a petition against the plan has currently raised over 20,000 signatures, so is this ulez ideology spreading around the world? should motorists be punished with these new limits? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is britain anti—car ? now let's see what my anti—car? now let's see what my panel maker , this one, this show panel maker, this one, this show is nothing without you and your views . so let's welcome let's views. so let's welcome let's welcome back our panel for now. lizzie cundy and matthew lazor. now anti—car , do you feel like now anti—car, do you feel like do you both drive? i don't. right. okay. i'm with you. i don't drive. oh, brilliant. fantastic i don't drive. no, not

for any ethical reasons. it's just i live in london and it's pointless, but. >> oh , why do everything in my car? >> motorist i feel totally punished as a motorist. >> and i live in a rural little village. i can't get anywhere without my car . so forget about without my car. so forget about getting this electric car because we don't have anywhere to charge it. there is nowhere where i live and i can't get to a shop . i can't get anywhere a shop. i can't get anywhere without out my car. and i feel i am being penalised because i can't work, get anywhere without it. and so , you know you're all it. and so, you know you're all right. matthew you live in london. you go on the tube. but ihave london. you go on the tube. but i have to drive . and this ulez i have to drive. and this ulez is nothing but a scam . it is a is nothing but a scam. it is a con and it's not. you know, it makes me sick because this is the mayor of london who hasn't budgeted very well . this is a budgeted very well. this is a cash grab. and you know, if you catch a cold in london, you get a sneeze everywhere else . and we a sneeze everywhere else. and we knew it was going to go elsewhere and driving, let me tell at 20 miles hour,

tell you, at 20 miles an hour, i got stopped. sadly, same place where the archbishop of wokery, i call him, got stopped 20, you know, just going over 20 miles an hour. how difficult it is to go. and it's really difficult. it really is. and i really am sick, matthew, of this war on non—violent. >> we we're lucky enough . we are >> we we're lucky enough. we are we're very in a city where we have really decent public transport network. but for many people living out in the country, i just don't have that . you know, you get stressed here if there's not a tube within four minutes out in the when that twitter when people post that on twitter and outside london are and people outside london are going, you lucky you know what? and people outside london are going, ygot.ucky you know what? and people outside london are going, ygot a:ky you know what? and people outside london are going, ygot a bus'ou know what? and people outside london are going, ygot a bus for know what? and people outside london are going, ygot a bus for fourv what? and people outside london are going, ygot a bus for four days. :? >> i've got a bus for four days. exactly. never mind four minutes. that minutes. it's so important that people, minutes. it's so important that peop|areas , can minutes. it's so important that peoplareas , can use their cars rural areas, can use their cars and penalised . and aren't penalised. >> look, absolutely. >> look, absolutely. >> think is the worst >> i think i think is the worst possible thing those who possible thing for those who believe in public transport and who in an environmental who believe in an environmental agenda seen as a agenda is if this is seen as a war car, because then war on the car, because then it becomes people, you who becomes people, as you say, who need their cars, who live in places there isn't places where there isn't an alternative jobs where alternative or do jobs where where, you know, a car is

essential versus those who are trying be holier than thou. trying to be holier than thou. and that's you know, and that's why, you know, cyclists get me i may be a non—driver. i'm also a non cyclist but but no, cyclist so cycle. oh but but no, no, no. i love cyclists generally cyclists, yes. but as long as people don't feel that they're sort special they're some sort of special breed because they, you know, because breed because they, you know, bthink e breed because they, you know, bthink what we do need is i think what we do need is change coming. we are going change is coming. we are going to electric. but as to move to electric. but as lizzie need lizzie so rightly says, we need the infrastructure in place. but look, need those charging look, we need those charging points we shouldn't be points and we shouldn't be penalising until there's points and we shouldn't be prproperlg until there's points and we shouldn't be prproperlg that untilthere's points and we shouldn't be prproperlg that they. there's points and we shouldn't be prproperlg that they can re's points and we shouldn't be prproperlg that they can use a proper way that they can use alternatives, even if they environment and climate change report. >> i ask everyone to read it and it will show it is a scam and it is all about not making money. this is all what it's about. and ulez doesn't reduce air pollution, it just taxes. it and if the mayor of london was that worried about air pollution, he should be looking at knife crime and other issues that and all the other issues that are london. but if are going on in london. but if he worried, why isn't he was that worried, why isn't he doing anything about the undergrounds? doing undergrounds? why isn't he doing anything airport anything about the airport pollutions and all of that? why focus on the motorists and motorists only?

>> the thing is, the big issue signes at the moment do seem to be and be around heathrow airport and i'm to get my the irony i'm trying to get my the irony there. the irony of being forced to like along at to sort of like pulled along at 20 miles an hour in an electric car can't charge car that you can't charge up while jets thundering car that you can't charge up whileyour jets thundering car that you can't charge up whileyour every thundering car that you can't charge up whileyour every fiveidering seconds. >> i mean, for me, it's the worst thing in politics is when it's side, solution fits it's one side, one solution fits fits all. people think that you're just 20 mile hour. you're just 20 mile an hour. it's sorted it's sorted. it's sorted ulez it's sorted. it's sorted ulez it's sorted. it's complicated it's so much more complicated than that. clearly, there are some where 20 an some places where 20 mile an hour speed limits work around schools. but to slap schools. et cetera. but to slap one residential road in one on every residential road in wales is daft idea. and the wales is a daft idea. and the welsh government, i'm sure, will run is hurting your run into this is hurting your your love ulez and the support of ulez, aren't they ? of ulez, aren't they? >> well, and the fact, mr starmer, mr khan are having a big about. >> but matthew you who is hurting those the hurting most are those the poorest know the single well poorest you know the single well that's where andy burnham in manchester against manchester has come out against it. version were it. and their version they were going manchester. it. and their version they were goiiyeah, manchester. it. and their version they were goiiyeah, itvianchester. it. and their version they were goiiyeah, it really, ster. it. and their version they were goiiyeah, it really, really >> yeah, but it really, really is so fair. and i don't. is so not fair. and i don't. you're ruining people's lives. you've got livelihoods to do it. >> you've got have sensible >> you've got to have a sensible

transition because otherwise you lose and you people lose people and you turn people off. idea of electric off. the whole idea of electric car who afford electric car car who can afford electric car and they haven't done the homework it because homework on it because the actual are so heavy actual batteries are so heavy that they're to have that now they're going to have to rebuild bridges, to issue about rebuild bridges, rebuild old car parts, because what happens batteries what happens to their batteries afterwards big is exactly afterwards is a big is exactly the disposal . the disposal. >> do think, matthew, >> so do you think, matthew, that rushing headlong into that we're rushing headlong into this too, too politically virtue signal rather than actually thinking it through, getting people on side? yes. and this is both parties. >> absolutely. and the lib dems , we mustn't forget the lib dems who virtue signal like the best of them. i mean, that of them. i mean, i think that that real danger that is a real danger is that it's about virtue signalling it's all about virtue signalling and plan and and not about a proper plan. and my you just my worry is, is that you just people know, like people say, you know, it's like sort tractor production sort of tractor production targets year this is targets in the same year this is going is going going to happen. this is going to happen. course, then going to happen. this is going to the pen. course, then going to happen. this is going to the pen. they course, then going to happen. this is going to the pen. they suddenly then at the end, they suddenly cave in going happen. in and it's not going to happen. we've week linked we've seen that this week linked but with but slightly different with issues about oil boilers and people gas the people who don't have gas in the countryside. again , you countryside. and again, you know, yes, eventually we're going to move to different types of it's just of heating, but it's just ridiculous saying to people in

whether cars whether it's with their cars or with their boilers, if there isn't that works isn't an alternative that works , stop telling they've got , stop telling them they've got to , have to have it instead, have sensible i've got sensible plans. i've got a friend, really good of friend, a really good friend of mine company. mine runs a training company. there get teach there desperate to get to teach people install electric people how to install electric charging at home. the charging points at home. the problem he can't charging points at home. the proble|the he can't charging points at home. the proble|the lads he can't charging points at home. the proble|the lads because an't charging points at home. the proble|the lads because to 't charging points at home. the proble|the lads because to do recruit the lads because to do that says to fund that the government says to fund the government will give the government will only give you the training you the money for the training scheme got scheme if the person's got a grade in english. so we need grade c in english. so we need i'd rather have somebody who grade c in english. so we need i'd ratfit' have somebody who grade c in english. so we need i'd ratfit an|ve somebody who grade c in english. so we need i'd ratfit an electriczbody who grade c in english. so we need i'd ratfit an electric charging) could fit an electric charging point poetry. point then who can read poetry. >> sense . >> it doesn't make sense. >> it doesn't make sense. >> just it doesn't. >> it just does. it doesn't. it's like just it's things like that just make the like it's things like that just make thlacks like it's things like that just make thlacks common like it's things like that just make thlacks common sense, like it's things like that just make thlacks common sense, butke it's things like that just make thlacks common sense, but the it lacks common sense, but the common sense of these heat pumps don't . don't work. >> they don't keep you warm throughout anyone throughout the winter. anyone that's got an old houses complaints and don't fit complaints and they don't fit older houses . i've old older houses. i've a very old home, 16th century. i'm not going be able to you know, going to be able to you know, it's all rustic and it gets very cold in the winter. let me tell you, won't able have you, i won't be able to have a heat just doesn't heat pump. it just doesn't work. they thought they haven't thought this out. and afford a electric and who can afford a electric car? you seen the price car? have you seen the price of them? and can i? them? it's a joke. and can i? honestly, you're a con . it's all honestly, you're a con. it's all a scam. well, that's why

kirsanow. >> so you know, consider king of the flip flop. oh, well, it's a bit hard. >> so he is. matthew he flip flops, flip flops , and he knows flops, flip flops, and he knows this isn't good. well, let's hope common sense prevails. but it didn't it lost him uxbridge, didn't it? and isn't and he knows that this isn't a goodidea. good idea. >> that's why him in manchester is pretty canny fellow. >> that's why him in manchester is well,y canny fellow. >> that's why him in manchester is well, and1ny fellow. >> that's why him in manchester is well, and blair's ow. >> that's why him in manchester is well, and blair'sow. up >> well, and blair's piped up suddenly a net suddenly going, oh, it's a net zero is going to hurt us all. he's because he's saying that because he knows lose votes for knows that could lose votes for the labour party. knows that could lose votes for the itabour party. knows that could lose votes for the it is. ur party. knows that could lose votes for the it is. i' party. knows that could lose votes for the it is. i mean, the mayoral >> it is. i mean, the mayoral election in election coming up in may, i think biggest, think it's labour's biggest, biggest moment is biggest danger at the moment is ulez and the idea that going to biggest danger at the moment is ulez a kickbackaa that going to biggest danger at the moment is ulez a kickback from it going to biggest danger at the moment is ulez a kickback from it,|oing to biggest danger at the moment is ulez a kickback from it, do g to biggest danger at the moment is ulez a kickback from it, do you have a kickback from it, do you what think? have a kickback from it, do you what mean think? have a kickback from it, do you what mean widening the debate >> i mean widening the debate somewhat. you somewhat. how important do you think the war on the motorist will be? the migration problem, the cost of living ? i mean, what the cost of living? i mean, what do you think is going to be the most important thing that people are worried about coming into the is literally the election, which is literally what this is a really what i think this is a really big i think this is a year away i >>i -- >> i think m >> i think this is a big problem. in problem. and we saw this in uxbndge problem. and we saw this in uxbridge where they i think labour really thought they could win and they could that win it and they could see that people it. the mp people were against it. the mp for knocking on doors

for labour was knocking on doors saying, know , everyone was saying, you know, everyone was saying, you know, everyone was saying this and saying we're so against this and they didn't listen. yeah keir starmer didn't listen and now he wish he had listened. so it's interesting , matthew, isn't it? interesting, matthew, isn't it? >> feel so strongly >> people feel so strongly about this despite cost living this. despite the cost of living crisis, migration crisis, the migration issue, they actually not vote for they will actually not vote for labour because of that. >> i think it's a really clear issue that people can, you know , politics can be confusing . , politics can be confusing. people can feel that their vote doesn't, you know, they're putting the lever and nothing changes. i think what happened in became in uxbridge is it became a referendum and people referendum on ulez and people could very clearly, if i could see very clearly, if i vote it's going to at vote this way, it's going to at the very least, send message the very least, send a message and it might just so and it might just stop it. so i think i mean, i think think that's why i mean, i think that combination factors, that the combination of factors, including living that the combination of factors, includ which living that the combination of factors, includwhich a living that the combination of factors, includwhich a senseying is crisis, which in a sense this is part of it's the worst part of because it's the worst possible hitting possible time to be hitting people is will people with charges is what will be the is what will be the we haven't a say in it. be the is what will be the we havwe: a say in it. be the is what will be the we havwe haven'tay in it. be the is what will be the we havwe haven't gotn it. be the is what will be the we havwe haven't got ait. in. >> we haven't got a say in. >> we haven't got a say in. >> well, can against >> well, you can vote against listen, you should stand for mayor. stand for mayor and >> i will stand for mayor and honestly, will. honestly, i really will. i'm going going honestly, i really will. i'm goinall going honestly, i really will. i'm goinall i'm going honestly, i really will. i'm goinall i'm not going honestly, i really will. i'm goinall i'm not saying oing honestly, i really will. i'm goinall i'm not saying that and all the i'm not saying that i that this has become the modern . modern day. >> we need a saturday night out.

>> we need a saturday night out. >> . >> we do. >> we do. >> we're planning on night out. the tax. the modern day poll tax. >> has is >> it really has and this is diminishing and our diminishing livelihoods and our freedoms and that is labour really worried about the mayoral election. >> it's also going to be under a new electoral system. previously, it's been under the alternative vote. so you could vote dem, could vote for vote lib dem, you could vote for captain whatever he's captain binface or whatever he's called and to called first and transfer to laboun called first and transfer to labour. but now labour is going to to on first to have to win it on first preferences first time around and much and that's going to be much tougher. >> honestly anyone >> can you honestly say anyone that that likes khan? that you know that likes khan? says of london says the mayor of london is doing the of doing a good job. the truth of the the danger is no the matter is the danger is no taxi i talk to taxi driver, no when i talk to on the streets like this man, he hasn't you he hasn't i mean, you know, he hasn't i mean, you know, he hasn't he hasn't the hasn't he hasn't captured the city's heart. >> to say city's heart. >> an to say city's heart. >> an in to say you've city's heart. >> an in an) say you've city's heart. >> an in an election you've city's heart. >> an in an election like )u've city's heart. >> an in an election like that got an in an election like that , he has done two terms already. got an in an election like that , think.; done two terms already. got an in an election like that , think.; donylabour, rms already. got an in an election like that , think.; donylabour, who already. got an in an election like that , think.; donylabour, who thought i think. now labour, who thought london london london was sewn up, london was labour and they were worried about it about the towns, you know, it was about towns and now was all about the towns and now in elections we saw in the by elections we saw laboun in the by elections we saw labour, better in selby in labour, did better in selby in a, a non—metropolitan town a, in a non—metropolitan town and much worse than uxbridge. and i think that's the and now i think that's the number one worry for labour is that that may in that is that mr khan may be in trouble not especially that is that mr khan may be in tr

realistic . realistic. >> think the carers, think of >> think of the carers, think of those disabled, those those that are disabled, those that on car that really do rely on their car . it's khan is in . and it's odd that khan is in favour freedom of favour of the freedom of movement but he's movement inside the eu, but he's not within his own city. >> it does make you wonder how in touch with reality of in touch with reality a lot of our are right. this our politicians are right. this show is nothing without you and your though, so let's your views though, so let's welcome one of great british welcome one of our great british voices. this is your opportunity to and tell us to be on the show and tell us what really think about what you really think about the topics we're discussing this houn topics we're discussing this hour. to cornwall hour. we're heading to cornwall to with regular voice to speak with regular voice jonathan jones . jonathan good jonathan jones. jonathan good afternoon. thank you very much for joining us. what do you what do you make of this quick one? i've just come back from the west country on holiday. i was allowed around country allowed to drive around country lanes miles an hour, lanes 40 miles an hour, no problem to problem at all. get back to london, carriageway , 4 am. london, dual carriageway, 4 am. in morning, 20 miles in the morning, 20 miles an houn in the morning, 20 miles an hour. make sense , right? hour. make it make sense, right? oh is britain anti car definitely heading that way and i think it could be a huge mistake . mistake. >> there's 20 mile an hour limits threatened cornwall as limits threatened in cornwall as well and i've worked with a lot of environmentalists . and if you

of environmentalists. and if you look science , it just look at the science, it just doesn't add up. the emissions go up. actually, when traffic is crawling along at low speeds. it's a myth to make out that by slowing everything down, you save somehow carbon emissions. you don't. in fact, it could be worse. and of course, productivity goes down, but , you productivity goes down, but, you know, we love electric cars. we've just filled this cup with t picked by the world's first electric powered . but in fact, electric powered. but in fact, solar powered t robot. so you know, we love the environment. we love we can't that thing will cut five miles in one charge. so there's lots of businesses and individuals that are fully signed up to cutting emissions. and, you know, we grow tea in england. we've we've done our bit . but actually, are we in bit. but actually, are we in anti—car? i think this country is heading that way. and the environmental costs of that and the economic costs , as lizzie the economic costs, as lizzie says, be huge . and this says, could be huge. and this beautiful old car behind me , if beautiful old car behind me, if you take the whole life cost of that to the environment, far

that to the environment, is far less than scrapping everything and bringing in extremely expensive lithium powered or any other battery powered car. so it does need looking again. the science doesn't actually add up very well at the moment. so i think be more think people need to be more balanced. george eustice spoke very this week very well on this this week regarding rural ulez. i think we need to just take stock and think this thing through more carefully . think this thing through more car> jonathan, just out of interest, quickly, which >> jonathan, just out of intererpoliticaljuickly, which >> jonathan, just out of intererpolitical party , which >> jonathan, just out of intererpolitical party are|ich >> jonathan, just out of intererpolitical party are many which political party are many of them do you trust more to be a motorist? friendly it's a good question . question. >> i mean, i know it's almost a joke to say it now , but i think joke to say it now, but i think liz truss , uh, her policy on liz truss, uh, her policy on increasing speed limits for motorists was a very good idea. i think the germans have a very good environmental awareness and somehow seem to be able to move around more quickly than so around more quickly than us. so you know, i'd say most people , you know, i'd say most people, most motorists probably lean towards the conservatives, but right now it's all to play for. i think i know a lot of motorists who would vote for whoever came up with the most

sensible strategy or policy, and that's what they're all frightened of, isn't it? >> that's jonathan jones, our voice from cornwall . thank you voice from cornwall. thank you very for joining voice from cornwall. thank you very forjoining us this very much for joining us this afternoon, jonathan. and afternoon, jonathan. right. and now for some good news. now for some very good news. ashley unger, lizzie , tell the ashley unger, lizzie, tell the story. lizzie, what's happened? >> well, i've got some fantastic news. sadly last sunday, my little dog, alfie maltipoo, he's so beautiful . he's so cute. we so beautiful. he's so cute. we may have some pictures of him. hopefully got stolen. he got stolen in london. my friend was walking him and just turned around to make a phone call and within seconds he was snatched . within seconds he was snatched. but i did a lot of press. i was heartbroken . we all were heartbroken. we all were heartbroken. we all were heartbroken. and particularly my friends were devastated . and i friends were devastated. and i did i just thought, well, look, i've got the media platform . um, i've got the media platform. um, you know, let's try and get alfie back somehow. and thankfully, the people that took alfie handed him in to the

airport . it alfie handed him in to the airport. it didn't. we my alfie handed him in to the airport . it didn't. we my friend airport. it didn't. we my friend had put actually a reward for alfie to come back, but they just said, don't prosecute us. and here's the dog. so i got the phone call yesterday evening . phone call yesterday evening. >> and so alfie is, i'm assuming, chipped and that's how it's chipped . it's chipped. >> but sadly, they're very clever these days. and they can somehow remove the chip and dog , you know, napping , as they , you know, napping, as they call it, is on the rise. we saw through the pandemic, i think there were 2000 incidences, but now it's because people are struggling and doing desperate things. sadly dog theft is on the rise. and i'm there to campaign to get stiffer sentences for this because a dog is, you know, a member of the family and it's like your child being kidnapped. it's been the most horrific week . but most horrific week. but thankfully with a happy ending. >> and harry's alfie's alfie is great. >> he's on his way in the studio shortly. >> surely not in time for the show finale . show finale. >> lee. i know, but he is on his

way. and alfie again ? nearly six months. >> oh , he's a little baby, but >> oh, he's a little baby, but it's so great. >> he's back. so. and thank you for everyone that shared the all the messages and tweets and everything. and we've got him home. >> that's good. and he is a cute boy. we showed those pictures three times, think, because he three times, i think, because he is cute. >> much cuter than a dog, >> he's much cuter than a dog, isn't he? >> yeah, right. okay it's time for the bit of the program i always it's quick always get wrong. it's the quick fire the fire quiz. it's the part of the panel fire quiz. it's the part of the panel, the show where panel, part of the show where i test some of the test my panel on some of the other stories the other stories hitting the headunes other stories hitting the headlines right now. they've actually got buzzers well. actually got buzzers as well. i can't believe this. right. okay. so favourite so lizzie, our favourite bit, lizzie cundy up against matthew lazor. lizzie cundy up against matthew lazor . let's hear their buzzers lazor. let's hear their buzzers right . okay. now this is where right. okay. now this is where i scroll down too fast. question one what animal made the headunes one what animal made the headlines this week after it escaped from a crate in the cargo hold of a plane? a deadly snake , a bear or a lion ? snake, a bear or a lion? >> i don't know who's got that first? >> well, i don't actually know this, but i'm going for a deadly

snake. >> yeah, it was a deadly snake. and it is a bear. oh >> oh, hello . >> oh, hello. >> oh, hello. >> how did they miss a bear? what happened? how would you say that? >> that story? >> that story? >> well, right . >> well, right. >> well, right. >> okay, quick, another question . a smuggler was caught trying to sneak a snake theme , tried to to sneak a snake theme, tried to sneak snakes across the border of china and hong kong. but how many snakes was he trying to smuggle ? all lizzie ? smuggle? all lizzie? >> 100. >> 100. >> 100? where was he smuggling? well, i don't know. >> i'm thinking big. >> i'm thinking big. >> i'm thinking mean. >> i'm thinking mean. >> listen to the. >> listen to the. >> i'm being generous. >> i'm being generous. >> the answer is 49 of us are going to win this game . going to win this game. >> none of us are going to win this year. >> we are. >> we are. >> how many snakes we get ? >> how many snakes can we get? >> how many snakes can we get? >> can get >> the little you can get the little snakes >> the little you can get the little actually snakes >> the little you can get the little actually in snakes >> the little you can get the little actually in his snakes >> the little you can get the little actually in his pocket. ikes were actually in his pocket. >> i don't want to think about that. i'm not going. >> incredible story. >> incredible story. >> that's too early and i'm right. last right. okay. right. last question really quickly, which invasive is italy spending invasive spear is italy spending almost ,3 million to tackle? is it muskrat , blue crabs or

it muskrat, blue crabs or raccoon . you affairs? raccoon. you affairs? >> you're much quicker than me. i'm going for sea raccoons . >> you're much quicker than me. i'm going for sea raccoons. i'm going to say blue crabs . going to say blue crabs. >> okay. and the answer is drumroll . so i win. drumroll. so i win. >> i think this is a first. >> i think this is a first. >> it's1—0. >> it's 1—0. >>- >> it's 1—0. >> did you actually know that or did you just get. >> i guess. >> i guess. >> but right. >> but right. >> okay, okay, fine. oh, one more question quickly. oh, right. question of right. question five which of these are real these children's names are real leicester pistol or a blessing ? leicester pistol or a blessing? >> a blessing . >> a blessing. >> a blessing. >> okay. and the answer is , is >> okay. and the answer is, is all of them are real. >> all of them are real. >> all of them are real. >> that was a trick question, actually. >> hello, parents. what are you doing out there? what's wrong? >> me? mother, you're busy , >> me? mother, you're busy, matthew. absolutely. simple right? >> on today's show, we've been asking should ministers sacked over the bibby stockholm fast and according twitter poll, and according to twitter poll, is . yes, that's it. is your. yes, but that's it. we've run out of time. thank you so and here is your so much. and here is your weather. a lovely weekend weather. have a lovely weekend.

the is rising. the temperature is rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello, i'm marco petagna . >> hello, i'm marco petagna. here's your latest weather update from the met office. we'll see rather mixed weather conditions across the uk over the of days. the next couple of days. some outbreaks areas, outbreaks of rain in most areas, but start to warm but things will start to warm up, the up, particularly around the middle coming middle part of the coming week. low pressure is anchored towards the north—west the the north—west of the uk at the moment, feeding showers from moment, feeding in showers from the , fairly the west and southwest, fairly tightly isobars. so it's tightly packed isobars. so it's fairly out and fairly breezy out and about certainly evening . certainly through the evening. some showers still packing in across the from north and across the uk from the north and west , but across the uk from the north and west, but becoming across the uk from the north and west , but becoming increasingly west, but becoming increasingly confined northern confined towards those northern and as we go and western areas as we go through period through the overnight period with the south and tending through the overnight period wi'seeie south and tending through the overnight period wi'seeie sou drierd tending through the overnight period wi'seeie sou drier conditions,ing to see some drier conditions, some spells times, too. to see some drier conditions, somwherever)ells times, too. to see some drier conditions, somwherever you times, too. to see some drier conditions, somwherever you are, imes, too. to see some drier conditions, somwherever you are, it'ss, too. but wherever you are, it's a pretty warm night. temperatures holding up in the range , 13 to holding up in the range, 13 to 16 16 in the south—east 16 celsius, 16 in the south—east is fahrenheit . as for is 61. in fahrenheit. as for sunday, well, it's another day of sunshine and showers. the showers most frequent and most widespread towards the north and northeast uk still northeast of the uk could still be 1 2 thundery ones around be 1 or 2 thundery ones around

as through the day on as we go through the day on sunday. towards sunday. whereas towards the south showers south and east, the showers more scattered, south and east, the showers more scatte|spells here and with sunny spells here and with lighter winds. and on saturday it a little bit it should feel a little bit warmer about. warmer out and about. temperatures peaking temperatures generally peaking in locally low in the high teens, locally low 20 towards the more 20 towards the north, more widely in the low 20s towards the southeast , a high the south and southeast, a high there 23 celsius, 73 there in london, 23 celsius, 73 in fahrenheit . as for monday in fahrenheit. as for monday with outbreaks of rain will sweep from southwest, sweep in from the southwest, bringing unsettled day, bringing a fairly unsettled day, certainly england certainly across england and wales. thundery wales. some heavy thundery bursts in bursts of rain are possible in places as sunshine showers places as sunshine and showers though north and though towards the north and northwest uk. but things northwest of the uk. but things will down around will quieten down around the middle upcoming week middle part of the upcoming week . peaking in the . temperatures peaking in the mid even climb mid 20 celsius could even climb to 30 celsius . to 30 celsius. >> the temperatures rising . boxt >> the temperatures rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .

to interfere in parenting . i'm to interfere in parenting. i'm joined by human rights barrister anna lutfi as well as a parent who was branded a bigot forjust who was branded a bigot for just asking for details of the sex education agenda in her child's

school. also lots of chat coming up with my panel this evening. that panel is personal finance and business expert jasmine birtles, who's familiar to viewers of neil oliver live all of that and more coming up. but first, an update on the latest news from around armstrong . news from around armstrong. >> very good evening to you. six people have died after a small boat carrying migrants sank in the channel earlier this morning . french maritime authorities say a number of people remain missing . the rnli and the french missing. the rnli and the french coastguard have rescued more than 50 people from the vessel, which got into difficulties around five miles off the coast of calais . some of those around of calais. some of those around 20 were taken to dover . of calais. some of those around 20 were taken to dover. home secretary suella braverman, who chaired a meeting with border force officials earlier, has described it as a tragic loss of life. our home and security editor mark white says the rescue operation continues . rescue operation continues. >> there is a possibility that

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