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it when we need them most. is it time to say no to macron .7 time to say no to macron.7 >> oh, excellent. excellent accent there, martin. and the government has confirmed is government has confirmed it is working reverse the rise in working to reverse the rise in gender neutral toilets as part of his efforts to protect single sex spaces. are you bothered if a building doesn't have separate male and female facilities and the polish prime minister is to dramatically hold a referendum on the eu's plan to dump thousands of illegal immigrants on his country? >> and that got us thinking. do you want the referendum to end illegal immigration in britain . illegal immigration in britain. >> and i'm delighted to say that the entrepreneur and award winning actor and movie producer, sir marco robinson, will be joining us to talk about the fact that he's sleeping out at davos to raise awareness of homelessness. not miss that homelessness. do not miss that superb initiative. >> us know your thoughts on >> let us know your thoughts on all our talking points of all our talking points today. of course, gbviews@gbnews.com. but first, here's your morning news with sanchez . thank you
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with tatiana sanchez. thank you very much and good morning. >> this is the latest from the newsroom. the government's under pressure explain why there pressure to explain why there were delays in removing migrants from bibby stockholm after from the bibby stockholm after traces of legionella were discovered . dorset council says discovered. dorset council says home office contractors were told about the bacteria on the day asylum seekers boarded the barge. all 39 people were removed from the vessel on friday. at least three days after concerns were raised. shadow northern ireland secretary peter kyle says the government is focusing on the wrong thing . wrong thing. >> if there is a barge which is being brought to our country and is so rusty that it needed work done on it to make it safe, worthy to travel across the channel then is it safe for human habitation? have the tests been done? ministers weren't even asking because they were so busy trying to create a row in
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pubuc busy trying to create a row in public that they thought would be politically advantageous for them on headlines them. if you focus on headlines rather than focusing on solutions, it will always come back to bite you. and that is the story of this government . the story of this government. >> the government is set to announce plans ensure announce new plans to ensure cancer is caught earlier performance targets will be scrapped and replaced with a new, faster diagnosis standard, which will see patients who've been urgently referred receiving a diagnosis within 28 days. patients with cancer will then start treatment within nine weeks from the date of referral . while the nhs says the proposals will help diagnose more cancers earlier and save more cancers earlier and save more lives , well this comes as more lives, well this comes as junior doctors in england continue their four day strike. it's estimated a million procedures and appointments will be cancelled and rearranged due to the action. the walkout started on friday. it ends tomorrow at 7 am. it's the fifth round of strikes by medical association members since march. over a pay dispute. gp dr. laurence gerlis says the
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strikes aren't working. >> the idea of doctors chanting on picket lines to me it makes me feel very uncomfortable indeed. it's not a good look at all for doctors and i don't think that the strikes are working. this is now 15 days of junior doctors strikes . and i junior doctors strikes. and i think it's becoming counterproductive. i think the government are using it against them. we had the prime minister saying blaming the junior doctors for the waiting list, which is probably not entirely fair , but they've given the fair, but they've given the government the opportunity to use that against them . use that against them. >> the number of people killed in hawaii wildfires has now reached 93. it's feared the number of victims could still climb with hundreds of people still missing. the historic resort town of lahaina on the island of maui was mostly destroyed. the federal emergency management agency estimates it will cost more than £4 billion to rebuild . you can get more on to rebuild. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com. now
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it's back to martin and . bev it's back to martin and. bev >> and thanks for that, tatiana. superb. okay. the migrant crisis could last another five years until it's brought under control. that's according to a leaked government document out today. >> that's right. the memo shows that civil servants are planning mass accommodation sites until 2028, making a mockery of the government's pledge to stop the boats. >> this comes after six migrants died trying to cross the english channel after a dinghy sank with witnesses now claiming that gunshots were heard near dunkirk as migrants clashed with people smugglers . smugglers. >> well, here to pick through all of that is a political commentator, pierce pottinger. this is a leaked memo. pierce good morning . this is a leaked memo. pierce good morning. is a this is a leaked memo. pierce good morning . is a disaster for good morning. is a disaster for the government when they're saying one thing and apparently know different behind know something different behind the scenes. >> yes. mean , it's an >> yes. i mean, it's an unfortunate leaked memo. it was written in march this year. it's only now emerged, as they say .
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only now emerged, as they say. and again, i think it's probably at the behest of a group of civil servant s who would like to see suella braverman go so i'm actually rather dismissive of this. i think the whole problem and so many people since the tragedy over the weekend and have been jumping on the bandwagon again to attack the government and say blame it entirely on the home office , entirely on the home office, when in fact, the real problem lies in france and it is quite clear that the french, if you read the french newspapers over the weekend, le figaro was talking particularly about the new strain between london and paris . france has a huge paris. france has a huge immigration problem itself in the since 1980, they've had 28 immigration bills in parliament, which is incredibly all it's a number one issue for marine le pen's frightening extreme right
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party. the national party. and they're ahead in the polls of macron. so the french immigration is arguably an even bigger issue than it is here. >> yeah, and piers, this brings stark kind of focus now on the deal with france . front page of deal with france. front page of today's times details, astonishing details . 20% of astonishing details. 20% of french coppers who patrol beaches are currently on on houday beaches are currently on on holiday because guess what? france has closes down in august, which coincidental plea is one of the peak months, if not the peak month for illegal sailings taking departing french beaches. another one is the gunfire to kurdish gangs running riot in the camps completely. the police have lost control of those. are these people boarding ? the thing is to britain, are we importing criminals? and another astonishing point that's baffled me since the tragedy, and that is why were british vessels from the rnli deployed
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only four miles from the french coast, is revealed? it took 15 minutes for french lifeboats to get there. where we were there in a quarter of the time. so my question to you, piers, is why the heck are we paying £500 million for the privilege of a deal that's clearly lousy? >> well, i agree with you. i think it's absolutely shocking. and i mean, i'm afraid also with the french. the french are a law unto themselves , having had unto themselves, having had a house in france for 25 years, i can tell you, i mean, some of the holidays, the french workers take, particularly in government art departments, including the police, are mind boggling . they police, are mind boggling. they have huge holidays . and i mean, have huge holidays. and i mean, this is another example when it's obvious august, because the waters tend to be calmer, the be calmer, the weather is better . it's waters tend to be calmer, the weather is better . it's waters tend to be calmer, the weather is better. it's going to waters tend to be calmer, the weather is better. it's going to be a key time for illegal be a key time for illegal migrants to try and come over. migrants to try and come over. but according to some reports but according to some reports i've read , the police were in i've read i've read, the police were in actually watching people go from
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towns to the beach to get on these boats . i mean, they just these boats. i mean, they just sat and watched . now, why aren't sat and watched. now, why aren't they rounded up ? i mean, i just they rounded up? i mean, i just don't get it. >> where do we how do we incentivise the french, though , incentivise the french, though, piers, to do more to stop people leaving their shores? because if a half £1 billion appears, we're getting very little for our money. there and they want to get rid of people that they can't accommodate there, they're taking about 123,000 a year asylum seekers in in the french the french. do you have some sympathy for them in their position? well, i mean , as position? well, i mean, as i said only recently , this is an said only recently, this is an international problem. >> it cannot simply be solved by some of the asinine suggestions of people in some of the charities. and the labour party making these absurd suggestions about so—called safe routes. well, how do you create a safe route from the taliban? yeah, i mean , it's not that easy, but
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mean, it's not that easy, but that also just makes me consider biden's role in this. >> i know that might sound like a bit of a non—sequitur, but the way that we desert afghanistan, biden and the and the uk under bons biden and the and the uk under boris johnson is shamed for because this was always to going happen.the because this was always to going happen. the afghanistan the afghani people. it is a terrible country to live in partly because of the role that the west played. yes. what do we do about that? >> well, again, i mean, that's a global problem and we can't turn back the clock . also, if you back the clock. also, if you look , it's iranians and albania look, it's iranians and albania are the key people coming over. now. albania is supposed to be a democracy with a western style government and yet and has a lovely beaches and quite a nice country. >> all in all. >> all in all. >> so i mean, you know, it's an extremely complex problem that requires international collaboration to sort out. and again , britain is a very small again, britain is a very small island . france has got a lot island. france has got a lot more space. i mean, we may end
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but according to some reports i'vewithj but according to some reports i'vewith international cities up with international cities being built for migrants. yeah and this is the sort of thing if the eu had any kind of real vision they'd be looking at because it's a problem affecting the whole of europe , not just britain. >> well, i hate to rain. you pay your parade there, piers, but i don't think the eu does have any sort of long term vision on this. in fact, it doesn't. it's a disaster of their own reckoning in many ways because they are so pro free movement. they are so pro open borders and refugees welcome . this is refugees welcome. this is something which they trying something which they are trying to the continent. i to move around the continent. i think you're right. why think you're dead right. why would macron effectively create a hard border at dunkirk and calais and contain this issue within his own country when it could be heading towards electoral defeat for him domestically? but back to the point of looking at the value for money of this half £1 billion to france, what can we do about what can we stop do about it? what can we stop paying do about it? what can we stop paying can we
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paying it? can we can we initiate, for example, don't initiate, for example, i don't know, french vessels know, stopping french vessels fishing in british waters as a tit tat political tit for tat political revenge. where from here? where do we go from here? because at the moment, this deal just isn't working for britain. because at the moment, this deal justno,'t working for britain. because at the moment, this deal justno,'t isn't ng for britain. because at the moment, this deal justno,'t isn't working'itain. because at the moment, this deal justno,'t isn't working for n. >> no, it isn't working for britain. and i think unfortunately, we i think we've paid to whole sum. so that paid to the whole sum. so that we can't back. what we we can't claw it back. what we do to do round do need to do is sit round a table and try try and hammer out a bit bit more of a of an efficient working system, maybe supplying our own officers to go over there and assist the police . but they need to. the only way they'll stop the boats is to stop them actually getting in the water and stop the people getting on them before they start coming across the channel. because the moment they're in the sea, the french think wonderful. it's now britain's problem. astonishing . problem. yeah, astonishing. >> and we saw that. pierce brosnan, we'll have leave it brosnan, we'll have to leave it there. just have to say, there. and i just have to say, there. and i just have to say, the french have said they are conducting inquiry and conducting a full inquiry and investigation into recent conducting a full inquiry and investigso3n into recent conducting a full inquiry and investigso they to recent conducting a full inquiry and investigso they they ent conducting a full inquiry and investigso they they are at events. so they they are at least paying lip service to
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that. >> and also , steve has got in >> and also, steve has got in touch with the show to say why marine le pen is not extreme right. she is populist. calling you out on that. oh, well, if she's not extreme, right. >> i don't know who is. >> i don't know who is. >> oh, thank you so much , piers. >> oh, thank you so much, piers. >> oh, thank you so much, piers. >> good to see you. now, sticking with the theme of the migrant crisis and the migrant crisis and how the labour party tackle it labour party would tackle it over weekend , shadow over the weekend, shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock negotiate kinnock said we will negotiate a new agreement with eu new return agreement with the eu that gets your ears tingling, doesn't it? >> certainly does. it seems like it's closer alignment degrees it's closer alignment by degrees of reckoning anyhow. secondly, we backlog down by we will get the backlog down by quickly removing those with no right to be here. and third, we will after the criminal will go after the criminal smuggling gangs, but our labour trying to reverse brexit here andifs trying to reverse brexit here and it's keir starmer, just tony blair in disguise. >> well, joining us is the >> well, joining us now is the former minister for former labour minister for europe, macshane . dennis, europe, denis macshane. dennis, good . maybe we start good morning. maybe we start with that. first question is keir starmer just tony blair in disguise ? and if so, is that a disguise? and if so, is that a good or a bad thing? >> well, i have an article about
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this in an excellent platform called the article later this morning. you can read that all i'd say is that if keir starmer can win three elections, transform the economy, pour money into the nhs, but another 20,000 cops on the street, create sure start homes to alleviate poverty . you tell me alleviate poverty. you tell me when to stop. bev i won't cry for the sake of my own grandchildren and children living in britain. no, i mean the problem is talking about blair. i was with him with the then president of france, president chirac in le touquet in 2003. i think . and chirac in 2003. i think. and chirac offered a deal so that the border into england will be on engush border into england will be on english soil, and we refuse it. now, that might even solve a problem. i don't think very much about what piers said that i just don't think there's an instant solution to this . the instant solution to this. the poush instant solution to this. the polish government is going to have a wacky referendum on election saying
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election day in october, saying , do you want migrants coming into poland ? well, we ran a huge into poland? well, we ran a huge campaign for years against poush campaign for years against polish workers coming into britain. we voted for brexit. now the polish workers don't. um, so honestly, i mean, i've been looking into lots of this. i don't have any answers. i have a lot of sympathy. i don't to have sympathy with the government. you can't have sympathy people sympathy with the people who've given us 100,000 extra asylum seekers no good reason. but seekers for no good reason. but yeah , actually talking to our yeah, actually talking to our what about it? try it. we haven't done it for six years. >> okay. dennis sorry. okay. okay. dennis well, we also had a referendum on controlling our borders in the uk. it was called brexit starmer did his brexit and keir starmer did his to best reverse by heading to best reverse that by heading up the people's vote movement for years trying to cancel brexit. i want get into the brexit. i want to get into the detail of what stephen detail now of what stephen kinnock , the shadow immigration kinnock, the shadow immigration minister, in kinnock, the shadow immigration minsunday in kinnock, the shadow immigration minsunday mirror in kinnock, the shadow immigration minsunday mirror , in kinnock, the shadow immigration minsunday mirror , and in kinnock, the shadow immigration minsunday mirror , and to in kinnock, the shadow immigration minsunday mirror , and to quote, the sunday mirror, and to quote, a new return deal with the european union . well, i asked european union. well, i asked kevin saunders of border force about that yesterday. he said
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you'd as chance of you'd have as much chance of doing with the eu that doing a deal with the eu on that as you platting fog, which doing a deal with the eu on that as yar platting fog, which doing a deal with the eu on that as ya great platting fog, which doing a deal with the eu on that as ya great metaphor. fog, which doing a deal with the eu on that as ya great metaphor. secondly] was a great metaphor. secondly he he wants to ensure genuine refugees can contribute to britain. that sounds like work visas to me. i put that to the shadow education minister and she said yes. now i'm put it, i put it to you here. if we have a new deal with the european union and we have a guaranteed influx of cheap labour via the asylum system, we're going back to the days of brexit. labour seemed to me to be moving us back towards 2016. >> oh , nice, nice try, martin >> oh, nice, nice try, martin but there isn't a single politician who will believe you. >> nobody in europe will believe you return or rejoin is not on the cards . i you return or rejoin is not on the cards. i may have you return or rejoin is not on the cards . i may have the the cards. i may have the t shirt somewhere, but i did argue at the time , um, that the second at the time, um, that the second referendum wouldn't work . we referendum wouldn't work. we have to live with brexit. it's costly , enormous damage. we're costly, enormous damage. we're not to going we're not going to have a brexit return debate today. have a brexit return debate today . i think what stephen
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today. i think what stephen kinnock was saying , today. i think what stephen kinnock was saying, i mean, the wish may be more wishful thinking than reality. if you don't talk to the french, if you open the daily mail daily telegraph times, listen to telegraph and times, listen to and radio, all you have is insult, insult, insult. the idea of not a product we have is how lazy and always on holiday a bit of a joke . so we ought to start of a joke. so we ought to start talking to them. yes, we ought above all to acknowledge we created iraq. we created afghanistan, we destroyed libya. we created a failed state in syria. and when you do all those things, then millions of people flood into europe . it's far flood into europe. it's far worse in france, i think you said, to be fair, martin, as you said, to be fair, martin, as you said or piers did, it's far worse in italy. it's far worse in greece. it's far worse in poland. and this is a slight sense of irritation. i expect that in europe, the brits are the only ones with a problem . the only ones with a problem. why don't they come and talk to us or just talk to us as a bilateral partner? nothing to do
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with me joining the eu. see what we could do to sort this out. there's 100 we could do to sort this out. there's100 mile of we could do to sort this out. there's 100 mile of coastline between dunkirk and le touquet , between dunkirk and le touquet, roughly from folkestone to brighton . roughly from folkestone to brighton. i'm roughly from folkestone to brighton . i'm sorry. you can't brighton. i'm sorry. you can't control patrol every every yard of that border unless we think dennis , can i take you to task dennis, can i take you to task on a couple of points there? >> it's. it's incorrect to say other european nations didn't do something about this. maloney declared a state of emergency in italy and effectively stopped boats in italy and sent boats shoring in italy and sent them instead to france. the poush them instead to france. the polish prime minister, as you correctly just said, is throwing a referendum on this debate because relocation scheme because an eu relocation scheme with no say by the polish people was covering that story later is being dumped on poland. what i'm putting to you is if we had conviction politics in the uk like that, we might get somewhere . somewhere. >> mrs. maloney is the laughing stock in immigration . the boats stock in immigration. the boats are landing. what's happening is that some of them are tipping over with far worse deaths than
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the six tragic loss of life we had off sangatte. the french government, the interior of the minister, the home secretary openly attacked her and saying he tried to dump her refugee problem into france. poland is not going to close its borders. you can walk from germany from any neighbouring country of poland into poland . this is just poland into poland. this is just a gimmick to combine. imagine having a brexit referendum at the same time as we had a general election like in 2015. great it's just a stunt and frankly, i wish it would work. i'd go for anything that would work. this immigration thing is poisoning us all. left, right doesn't matter. it's causing a disaster for so many communities families, politicians, decent governments in europe . but governments in europe. but unless we talk about it a bit, joint and find solutions, we're still preaching in several years time . time. >> martin dennis, sometimes when we consider what life under a labour government might look
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like, it's interesting to look towards wales, and there's a couple of stories that are pretty in the press today. telegraph reporting how many welsh people are having to go to england nhs treatment england for nhs treatment because the nhs is even worse in wales than it is in england. and also one story which has been revealed also by the telegraph is the fact that dragtimes a story hour, which a lot of parents are concerned about, blurs lines. stay with me here. blurs lines between the content or the things that children should be exposed to was actually funded by the welsh government . aren't in cardiff government. aren't in cardiff with welsh taxpayers money that might be a new story to you , but might be a new story to you, but it does concern people that we just be sort of living in a in a woke world of no biological sex where anything goes and no one can get any nhs treatment . can get any nhs treatment. >> well, last time i was at gb news studios, i don't know whether i should reveal this to you and martin and your listeners. you had single sex
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lavatories. i didn't see all the great stars of gb news sort of protesting. they had to go into the cubicle by themselves . i've the cubicle by themselves. i've beenin the cubicle by themselves. i've been in cubicles down the down the line to be serious . the the line to be serious. the welsh government's not had all the nhs. well, the scottish government, the nationalist government is a disaster for the welsh, all nationalist governments tend to treat things badly . but the governments tend to treat things badly. but the big governments tend to treat things badly . but the big story today badly. but the big story today surely is that the british government and the tory government is now abolishing the two week immediate cancer treatment promise and that i'm not young. i mean , cancer may be not young. i mean, cancer may be around the corner for me . i'm around the corner for me. i'm very worried about it. my grandchild not yet watching these television programmes, but if i see any of that nonsense on it, i'll come to gb news and have a good moan. okay? yeah >> can i just. just point something out about the european union again? because i'm obsessed. i just. union again? because i'm obsessed. ijust. i union again? because i'm obsessed. i just. i just think that we are heading in a direction of travel where a lot of senior players in the of people, senior players in the labour sending out labour party are sending out cosying messages to the cosying up messages to the european lammy,
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european union. david lammy, shadow foreign has shadow foreign secretary, has said wants to close the deal. said he wants to close the deal. the number one priority for him is a closer deal with the european union on defence, on education, action, on trade and now we're hearing on immigration and returns. so i don't think i'm with you here. i don't think, dennis, that the labour party will be foolish enough to propose a second referendum, at least not in the first term, but is just like death by is this just like death by a thousand treaties, closer alignment over time to the eu rowing back, rowing back and then down the line or dropping in second referendum? in that second referendum? because what keir starmer because that's what keir starmer in his heart hearts, wants. in his heart of hearts, wants. i don't think that's there's any evidence for that. >> i've been at the speeches where keir has said he campaigned for it for three years. >> no , no make brexit work. >> no, no make brexit work. >> no, no make brexit work. >> that was theresa may's slogan . have we made brexit work? we've got a 5% drop in the economy. i'm not going to list all the problems. martin you know them as well as i do. they're in the papers now. every day. every single day. i mean, every single business says, what about covid
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lockdowns? >> dennis you know what? you can't blame all the can't you can't blame all the woes on brexit. woes and betide me on brexit. what the small matter of what about the small matter of £2.6 trillion index of lockdowns that voted on? that your party voted on? >> it was a government that's got the big majority. boris not boris. now she's got the biggest majority of tory party has had bigger even the margaret thatcher. so frankly blaming labour for those votes, i don't think really valid . i've no think is really valid. i've no idea . i mean think is really valid. i've no idea. i mean i'm think is really valid. i've no idea . i mean i'm hope that at idea. i mean i'm hope that at some stage we will have a politics and if i may say so, a media that can drop simply the knee jerk anti french anti—european line, not fall in love with the eu, but simply say what is in britain's best interest? it won't happen under this government. we know all that. i mean, lee anderson says that. i mean, lee anderson says that. i mean, lee anderson says that . so we'll see what the that. so we'll see what the sunak prime minister does and, you know, bring him up on then. but i think an awful lot of
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businesses would do anything to be able to start having a normal trading relationship with the world's biggest single market on our doorstep . our doorstep. >> okay, dennis, thank you. good to see you. dennis mcshane, thank you for joining to see you. dennis mcshane, thank you forjoining us. you've thank you for joining us. you've been getting in touch at home. shirley blair shirley said tony blair inherited country in very good inherited a country in very good shape, financially brown shape, financially sound brown and blair then destroyed the pension system , the mortgage pension system, the mortgage system technical colleges . system and technical colleges. and also, darren said, how can you give illegal immigrants work visas when we don't know who they are ? lots more still to they are? lots more still to come. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address. don't go anywhere. martin daubney and me. bev turner will be here until midday this is britain's newsroom on gb news the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest news. weather forecast and unsettled the day ahead, especially across parts of
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england and wales. some heavy rain, a met office warning in force across northern parts of england and parts of wales, as well as this heavy rain slowly pushes eastwards through the day. some tricky travelling conditions wion's sunny skies across northern ireland and scotland, but plenty of heavy and possibly thundery showers here too. later on in the day we could start to see some glimmers of sunshine further south and west. a humid feeling day west. quite a humid feeling day here and temperatures is generally in the high teens to low 20 across the board . the low 20 across the board. the winds picking up as well across the of the uk as we the far east of the uk as we head through into the latter part of the afternoon, evening time this low pressure slowly time as this low pressure slowly moves away. and then overnight we'll start to see it calm down. plenty of clear spells developing a few showers developing still a few showers across the north and the west, but generally a quite at night to come and temperatures generally around 13 to 15 celsius to take us into tuesday morning. so there will be some low cloud mist. and merck initially a few showers in 1 or 2 spots, too, but plenty of
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it's 10:00 on monday, the 14th of august. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. with me, bev turner and martin daubney. >> it's been a feisty show so far. and next, has the government given up on tackling illegal immigration while a leaked memo suggests the migrant crisis could last up to wait for it five years. >> and then what? the government has confirmed that it is working to reverse the rise in gender neutral toilets as part of its efforts to protect single—sex spaces. are you concerned if a building doesn't have separate male or female or unisex facilities , let us know. and the facilities, let us know. and the poush facilities, let us know. and the polish prime minister is the dramatic hold a referendum on the eu's plan to dump thousands of legal immigrants on his country. >> and that got us thinking. do you want a referendum to end illegal immigration to britain ? illegal immigration to britain? >> and we're looking forward to
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speaking to the entrepreneur, sir marco robinson , who's going sir marco robinson, who's going to be joining us before 11 to talk about his event, the great sleep out that he's doing at davos. >> so let us know what you think on all those topics. do you want a referendum on ending illegal immigration like the polish? get in all the usual ways. in touch all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com but first, here's your morning news with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> martin thank you. it's 10:01. >> martin thank you. it's10:01. this is the latest from the newsroom. the government's under pressure to explain why there were delays in removing migrants from the bibby stockholm after traces of legionella were discovered . dorset council says discovered. dorset council says home office contractors were told about the bacteria on the day asylum seekers boarded the barge. all 39 people were
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removed from the vessel on friday. at least three days after concerns were raised. shadow northern ireland secretary peter kyle says the government is focusing on the wrong thing . wrong thing. >> if there is a barge which is being brought to our country and is so rusty that it needed work done on it to make it safe, worthy to travel across the channel then is it safe for human habitation ? have the tests human habitation? have the tests been done? ministers weren't even asking because they were so busy trying to create a row in pubuc busy trying to create a row in public that they thought would be politically advantageous for them. if you focus on headlines rather than focusing on solutions means it will always come bite you. and that come back to bite you. and that is the story of this government i >> -- >> the government is set to announce new plans to ensure cancer is caught earlier performance targets will be scrapped and replaced with a new, faster diagnosis standard which will see patients who've been urgently referred receiving a diagnosis within 28 days. patients with cancer will then start treatment within nine
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weeks from the date of referral. the nhs says the proposals will help diagnose more cancers earlier and save more lives . earlier and save more lives. well, this comes as junior doctors in england continue their four day strike. it's estimated a million procedures and appointments will be cancelled and rearranged due to the action. the walkout started on friday. it ends at 7 am. tomorrow. it's the fifth round of strikes by medical association members since march over a pay dispute. gp dr. laurence gerlis says the strikes are not working. >> the idea of doctors chant ing on picket lines to me it makes me feel very uncomfortable and indeed it's not a good look at for all doctors and i don't think that the strikes are working this is now 15 days of junior doctors strikes and i think it's become counterproductive. i think the government are using it against them. we had the prime minister saying blaming the junior doctors for the waiting list, which is probably not entirely
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fair, but they've given the government the opportunity to use that against them to people are still in a serious condition after a car crashed into a campsite in pembrokeshire. >> nine people were hurt when the vehicle flipped and rolled ploughing into them at the newgale site on saturday night. one of those critically injured was airlifted to hospital. a child and a baby were in a tent that was hit but escaped serious injury . the number of people injury. the number of people killed in hawaii wildfires is now reached 93. it's feared the number of victims could still climb with hundreds of people still missing. the historic resort town of lahaina on the island of maui was mostly destroyed. the federal emergency management agency estimates it'll cost more than £4 billion to rebuild messages encouraging smokers to quit could be added to the inside of cigarette packets. proposals being considered by the government would highlight the health and
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financial benefits of giving up. inserts would also offer advice and support for those trying to stop their already used in countries like canada, israel and australia. it's hoped the inserts could lead to an additional 30,000 smokers giving up their habit and save up to £16 up their habit and save up to £1.6 billion in health costs per pubsin £1.6 billion in health costs per pubs in england and wales will be allowed to continue selling takeaway pints as the rules are brought in to help pubs during covid lockdown . they were meant covid lockdown. they were meant to end in september , but the to end in september, but the government has decided to keep the licencing laws. takeaway pints can continue to be sold in pubs across england and wales. the rules were brought in to help pubs during lockdown as and were end in september. were meant to end in september. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by simply saying play gb news. now it's back to martin . bev
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it's back to martin. bev >> good morning. thank you very much for joining >> good morning. thank you very much forjoining us. now would much for joining us. now would you want a referendum on how we tackle immigration? well, poland's minister, poland's prime minister, matthias morawiecki, matthias maurer morawiecki, accepted challenge . and accepted the challenge. and guess what? polish citizens will be heading to the polls this autumn. >> voters will be asked if they are willing to accept thousands of immigrants from middle of immigrants from the middle east after fears east and africa after fears emerged that people from different could different cultures could threaten cultural threaten the country's cultural identity . identity and security. >> so should we do something similar here in britain? we're joined by belinda lucy, joined now by belinda de lucy, former mep for the brexit party. and ivan sampson, immigration lawyer. good morning to you both. bill linda martin and i were discussing this and the idea that that rishi sunak or any prime minister would ever give the british public a referendum on this seems pie in the sky. because why would you ask people a question where we kind of know the answer anyway? and also what could they ever do about it when they have confirmation from the british pubuc confirmation from the british public that this is what people would actually want ? would actually want? >> unfortunately, i think
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decades of eu membership has had a very corrosive impact on the culture in westminster. i think it's made them very suspicious of democracy. i think that was seen in 2016 when we had a huge democratic expression . it was democratic expression. it was a beautiful day. we decided to vote to leave the eu and the spasm they had the meltdown they had at a democratic vote reflected a westminster that had fallen out of love with democracy . now, i mean, it's democracy. now, i mean, it's very sad. it was a big, big, big, bad day for the mother of all parliaments . has it changed? all parliaments. has it changed? will it respect the referendum result if we have one now, now, perhaps , perhaps not. but perhaps, perhaps not. but i can't be sure and look like many. i have huge compassion for those struggling around the world. but i will never be convinced that the solution is to our doors to all to fling open our doors to all those all the poor and the suffering of world. we just suffering of the world. we just simply do that. so simply can't do that. so a referendum is needed to cap the numbers and to reaffirm the
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eligibility of asylum seekers to make sure the bar is set higher. so we protect those most at risk from certain death. we need a referendum on that. but what a sad reflection that we need a referendum on our current political status that they can't even perform the basic duty of controlling our borders and protecting our country. shame on them . them. >> great. of ivan sampson. now let's turn to because this let's turn to you, because this is to put prime minister is going to put prime minister morawiecki on a huge collision course the european union. course with the european union. i don't know if you've seen the video, quite spicy. it video, but it's quite spicy. it shows i dunno if we can play that now. so people can see that at home. the video shows scenes of streets burning , of looting. of streets burning, of looting. there's the prime minister now you can see burning of cars and there's a guy licking a knife, overturned cars , looting of overturned cars, looting of shops. this is put out by the poush shops. this is put out by the polish prime minister they're pushing towards this referendum. but what i want to ask you as a as somebody with legal insight, where is the legal him for this? because presumably, ivan, he's
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going to be on a huge collision course with both the eu and, of course, our friends, the european convention human european convention on human rights, poland a rights, of which poland is a member. and yet they're holding rights, of which poland is a mreferendum yet they're holding rights, of which poland is a mreferendum int they're holding rights, of which poland is a mreferendum in abjectre holding rights, of which poland is a mreferendum in abject defianceg a referendum in abject defiance of both of those institutions . of both of those institutions. >> indeed. but also with the refugee convention itself. the interesting what's the question going to be? do be asked to the public? do we not accept any asylum seekers ? is that the asylum seekers? is that the question? do we don't let anybody in at all? >> well, no, i think what is the what what what that is what they what what what that is what they what they've said, what the ruling party has said and moravsky morawiecki has said is he wants to ask voters in a referendum whether they support accepting and thousands accepting and i quote, thousands of illegal immigrants from the middle east and africa . middle east and africa. >> and then it goes further on to say, under the forced relocation mechanism imposed by the european bureaucracy . so to the european bureaucracy. so to be clear, this is a divvying up of the illegals who have entered the european land mass and the european union has decided where
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they're going to be put within they're going to be put within the member states without their being consulted . fashion other being consulted. fashion other than a vote at the european parliament. you and i know beunda parliament. you and i know belinda is at best shall we say, fig leaf democracy . so the fig leaf democracy. so the poush fig leaf democracy. so the polish you're saying we don't want to be told what to do. we're going to hold a referendum on it. so what i want to hear from you, ivan, do they have a legal right to do that? or as a lawyer, would you be challenging that? as we've seen and that? as we've seen time and time uk? time again in the uk? >> well, look, the poland is part the european convention >> well, look, the poland is part also re european convention >> well, look, the poland is part also signatoryin convention >> well, look, the poland is part also signatory to convention >> well, look, the poland is part also signatory to the iention and also signatory to the refugee convention. so whether they accept the quota by the eu , that's an internal dispute with the eu. but for every asylum seeker that comes to poush asylum seeker that comes to polish borders, they've got to decide that asylum application within the terms and clauses of the refugee convention. and i'll call the right as enshrined in the european convention on human rights. i never thought i would agree with belinda, but she's absolutely right. what she says that we do need a quota. we need to have a cap. we can't help
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everyone. we just simply can't do that. we can't accept millions of people coming to the country. but we've got to accept our fair share and at the moment, the way it's all structured is you have physically have to be in the uk to claim asylum. that is the problem , which is why people are problem, which is why people are coming here. if there was a system where you could claim asylum without actually being here, that would work much better. i also agree with beunda better. i also agree with belinda about the threat of evidential burden . it's far too evidential burden. it's far too low at the moment. it was designed that way because the refugee convention knew that when people are fleeing persecution , they may not have persecution, they may not have any identity documents . that's any identity documents. that's the problem we're having is that people actually disposing of those documents . within tension those documents. within tension of disguising where they're actually from. so i think that's absolutely right. what she says, i agree with her totally . i agree with her totally. >> ivan, can i just ask you specifically about the afghan resettlement system ? because
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resettlement system? because when the west pulled out of afghanistan, we committed to taking 20,000 afghan people within the coming years. this was january 22nd and 5000 within the first year. we've already taken 22,000. within the first year as an immigration lawyer, do you see that as a failure of that system ? that system? >> well, no, i think it worked really well. the afghan system and so did the syrian also policy of bringing syrians to the uk . there's countries where the uk. there's countries where there's conflict . and this there's conflict. and this country took its fair share . country took its fair share. that's what it has to do right across the board on an annual basis. as i said , we can't help basis. as i said, we can't help everyone, but we have to help our fair share. germany takes 27% of the eu burden of refugees . turkey has 3 million people all jordan has a million. pakistan has over a million. we don't take enough. i keep saying that we need to take our fair
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share. and once we've taken our fair share, that's our conscience. should be clear on that. conscience. should be clear on that . but conscience. should be clear on that. but again, i point out to the fact that you don't shouldn't physically have to be in the uk to claim asylum. you should be able to do it online through technology . we should be through technology. we should be able to interview people that want come here using want to come here using technology to do that. and there's no reason people there's no reason why people physically have to be in the uk to claim asylum. >> belinda , i want to put it to >> belinda, i want to put it to you. you're shaking your head there. why don't you first go back ivan's point there. the back to ivan's point there. the answer make it easier to answer is to make it easier to apply for asylum in the uk from abroad. what's your take on that? my take is england is a very, very small country and it is highly populated. >> it's one of the most highly populated countries already in europe. we have finite space. we have finite resources and money. so i think already we take beyond our fair share of people resettling in the uk as asylum seekers. i think we should go
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direct to only um, un approved refugee camps. take absolutely no one who comes here via irregular route. take 50% women because that's what's never been mentioned. it's all these young fit men who seem to have enough cash to pay the smugglers to shop through all the safe countries. we need to take half women and children, cap it at 20,000 a year to resettle here doesn't mean we can't help refugees in the camps financially nearer to the conflict zones. it just means we're a very small island . we we're a very small island. we can't take the same amount as france and germany. we don't have the space or infrastructure to support that number. we have to support that number. we have to prioritise and cap it at 20,000. resettling in here and half have to be women and children. currently we are a free for all for anyone. think about it. 30 countries are at conflict at the moment. in conflict at the moment. in conflict that means 30 countries around the world. the people have the right to claim asylum here over 60 countries have made homosexuals illegal. means homosexuals illegal. that means everyone countries
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everyone in those countries would have right to apply would have the right to apply for here. to for asylum here. we need to raise the bar very , very high, raise the bar very, very high, like japan, who's member like japan, who's also a member of the refugee convention. they only accept between 1 and 200 people a year because their eligibility is high. it stops fraud, stops abuse, it fraud, it stops abuse, and it protects the most at risk. i think we should head down a route of limiting cap capping and protecting the most vulnerable from camps. vulnerable directly from camps. >> can i quickly >> and belinda, can i quickly ask you the prime minister of poland is going to be on a collision course with the european union here. he's defying them at. exactly. don't forget, he did the same when he blockaded the border from belarus soldiers barbed belarus with soldiers and barbed wire illegals coming wire to keep illegals coming over that the russians wanted to go into poland to destabilise his belinda, a his country. belinda, as a brexiteer , do you think the brexiteer, do you think the spirit of brexit could catch on? could we see the beginnings of polexit? yes. >> well, look, admire and >> well, look, i admire and respect . asked how proud allowed respect. asked how proud allowed the polish prime minister and his party is in defending his nafion his party is in defending his nation state and his people , i nation state and his people, i can only dream of us having a
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government that has the spine to put british interests first and protect our our borders instead of all this peacocking on the international stage with macron and biden, that our government and biden, that our government and labour would be much worse, by the way. seems so happy to do so. i do think if the eu do not allow if they if they ban it completely and they reject the referendum, the spotlight will shine very clearly on the anti—democrat nature of the eu and i think eurosceptic ism will set a light in europe if the eu go on a collision course with a poland's right to self determine its own laws outside the eu because they are a nation state which we know the eu hate good for poland. although i don't agree with a lot of the pm's rhetoric and style of video, i do think that was a little bit much. >> but ivan, can we just one last question to you. we're starting to hear now it's making it into the mainstream conversation a little bit about the un's agenda 2030 and the fact that by 2030, any body who
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wishes to seek asylum in a different country will be considered a climate migrant. can you just i don't know whether you're aware of that or whether you're aware of that or whether you're aware of that or whether you know an awful lot about that. but if you do, can you just explain to us what that might mean? >> no, i'm not aware about being a climate migrant, and it's certainly not within the refugee convention the european convention or the european convention so convention on human rights. so that's of that's outside my sphere of expertise . expertise. >> right. not to >> okay. all right. not to worry. might we might cover worry. we might we might cover that worry. we might we might cover tha yeah. just just i do know >> yeah. just just so i do know a about it. and it basically a bit about it. and it basically means the future, climate means in the future, if climate change became significant change became a significant issue in countries such as north africa , then it would be deemed africa, then it would be deemed their human rights to leave that territory and our human rights to accept them. and that is an awful lot of people. yeah, and then then you might be out of a job, even because we would basically be living in a borderless world. >> thanks to climate change. thank both so much. belinda thank you both so much. belinda de lucy and ivan sampson there. immigration lawyer. good to see you fascinating this the
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you both. fascinating this the poush you both. fascinating this the polish prime minister here. it's fascinating that he's doing that because what i imagine he's doing, he'll get the result of this referee , adam. and ivan this referee, adam. and as ivan said, may not necessarily said, it may not necessarily mean can do anything mean he can he can do anything different, particularly in terms of , but it does of his obligations, but it does mean goes to the eu and mean he goes back to the eu and says, my people don't want this, and then they have to decide what about that. what to do about that. >> belinda i think >> and as belinda said, i think whatever you stand on this, isn't it great to have political clarity? i stand for this. my nafion clarity? i stand for this. my nation wants this, and i'm not going to be told what to do by the european that's why the european union. that's why brexit and i think brexit came in. and i think poland is going to be a country to really, really watch. >> that was punchy, though. >> a bit spicy. i >> it was a bit spicy. i imagine. certainly imagine. it certainly was. >> imagine from the >> imagine if anyone from the brexit or a different you brexit party or a different you know, nigel ever put know, if nigel farage ever put out a video like that. you out a video like that. can you imagine? well, you think imagine? well, if you think about heat he got that about the heat he got for that breaking point post compared to that, a teapot. it's that, it was a teapot. it's extraordinary. us what extraordinary. let us know what you morning. you have you think this morning. you have been in already at been getting in touch already at and dave we voted to bring
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and dave says, we voted to bring back hanging when was back hanging when jenkins was prime ignored prime minister. he still ignored it. the point? and it. what is the point? and marion from ludlow says, no one's talking about when the poush one's talking about when the polish migrants blocked polish, blocked migrants on the border , blocked migrants on the border, on the russian border. you mentioned that. >> that's good. that's good. >> then glenis says if >> now and then glenis says if the wants make the government wants to make coming less attractive, coming here less attractive, they should create tented cities on secure disused army bases. >> don't allow trips into the nearest town. they aren't here as tourists. >> i did think it was kind of ironic that on the weekend that the bibby stockholm was introduced apparently introduced as apparently a deterrent. record numbers deterrent. we had record numbers crossing and obviously a sad death of those people who came over and lost their lives. tragic families involved, obviously every one of those people who died has a family. um, but but it didn't work as a deterrent, did it? that's what we know now. >> the bibby stockholm is still the only boat they've ever stopped. now still to come, single sex toilets are set to become the default for new non—residential builds . non—residential builds. >> one, applaud that .
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evening. gb news the people's channel. britain's watching . channel. britain's watching. >> welcome back. it's 1025. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with myself. martin daubney and the lovely bev turner. so the government is working to stop rise in working to stop the rise in gender neutral toilets as part of effort to protect of its effort to protect single—sex spaces. yeah, single sex lavatories are set to become the lavatories . the lavatories. >> you don't really use the word laboratory in real life, do you? >> lose single sex loos or bogs are set to become the default for new non—residential buildings and those undertaking major refurbishments . major refurbishments. >> joined now by kelly >> so we're joined now by kelly keane, founder of standing for
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women. to see you women. kelly, great to see you as always. just remind us how we've got to this place, if you would. first of all, where the government are having to step in and say we need to have single sex loos . sex loos. >> well, there's a couple of routes. the first one is the gra, the gender recognition act, which decided that men could legally identify as women . and legally identify as women. and we also have self id , we also we also have self id, we also have a culture. so that's all that sort of stuff. but but more interestingly, in 2008, the government did some research into community provision of toilets and they recommended and they used the word gender all they used the word gender all the way through, which i think is why we're in this mess , is why we're in this mess, because it's sex, not gender. and they use the word gender and they say that women have more sartorial challenge when it comes to toilets. so any building of any community toilet should be about 70 over 30 split for women to have more cubicles. and they seem to have abandon that quite rapidly . they also
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that quite rapidly. they also recognise in 2008 that women find and unisex toilets more of a challenge and we really don't like them very much . and then like them very much. and then here we are 20, 23, just a couple of decades nearly later, and we're reasserting that. so i hope the government mean it. i don't know if they will do it now. >> so katie j. this has become a huge battleground and anybody who stands up for women's rights to have a safe space is branded a bigot. and the trans community say, well, you know, we're not sex offenders. you're tarring us all with the same brush. you're being bigoted, a narrow minded. but what is the truth about sex offending within all trans people more likely to sex offend than ordinary or non trans people or not? well well, look, the case is men. >> it's men are more likely to offend and cause harm through physical or sexual violence . so physical or sexual violence. so i don't differentiate between a man who calls himself a woman or
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a man who calls himself a man. i don't think there's any difference with their criminality. however, it could be argued, and i think this would be tangible considering the sort of people that might call themselves women in prison . um, but there is a there is a link between sex offending and claiming to be a woman, but that would be people that are already convicted of sex crimes in prison. so i really do hesitate to make such a sort of conclusion from that . but, you conclusion from that. but, you know, the problem is men, it's not it's not trans anything . we not it's not trans anything. we don't want men in women's toilets. we don't want men in women's spaces . and women have women's spaces. and women have the right to say that. and mean it and it be listened to . it and it be listened to. >> and kelly, what's what's life like for you now? because you've put yourself right at the front of this particular debate? i think what we do and i know as well, are you still planning planning on on standing against sir keir starmer in the next general election? that's one of
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the things that you talked about maybe doing and constantly asking him if a woman can have a penis . penis. >> well, i think he's sort of climbed down a little bit, hasn't he? so i'm sure there's plenty of mps that deserve of their feet being held to the fire. so the party of women, we've been waiting a long time for our party to be recognised andifs for our party to be recognised and it's been with the electoral commission for nearly 11 weeks. it normally takes between 4 and 6 weeks, but it's been with them a long time. so i'm very excited to hear the news whether or not we've been accepted. and but yes, women all over the country, it's not just against keir starmer. it's against anybody who really gutless who has been really gutless about this ideology and fails to recognise that women are adult human females. recognise that women are adult human females . so we also want human females. so we also want to go into places like police and crime commissioners as well as mps and seats on councils. just just going back to this this issue of toilets. >> kelly what i'm also quite preoccupied by is school toilets , because i have two teenage
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daughters and one of the toilets in their school, in their school, the main one near where they have their lunch every day is gender neutral, unisex toilets . and so i have toilets. and so i have a daughter that doesn't go to the toilet in the daytime because she's too embarrassed that one of the boys might be in the cubicle beside her or that they just smell bad in there because boys aren't always great at using the loo. no offence, martin. i'm sure it is true beautifully, but, you know, even even if we're not talking about safety around issue , you safety around this issue, you just privacy and dignity and feeling comfortable is important to me. and lots of parents. >> well, i think there's we know that there are anecdotally , we that there are anecdotally, we know that there are boys hanging around in in so—called gender neutral toilets, unisex toilets. um, decide what a girl is doing in the cubicle . and, you know, in the cubicle. and, you know, when i was ten years old, i went to a boys birthday party and i couldn't actually go to the toilet because every time i went, boys were peering under the yeah um, don't think
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the door. yeah um, i don't think they were sexual predators. i just they just didn't have just think they just didn't have any so we know . i any good manners. so we know. i mean, all of us women, we know what to be at school what it's like to be at school and have period and go to and have your period and go to the toilets and that nobody the toilets and hope that nobody can rustling in your can hear you rustling in your bag. we know that. why? everybody's pretending that that doesn't happen. doesn't actually happen. and girls okay with girls are really okay with sharing space with boys . i sharing their space with boys. i have idea. but it has to stop have no idea. but it has to stop and it to stop. yesterday and it has to stop. yesterday kelly j. >> very quickly , do you are you >> very quickly, do you are you hopeful that we're reaching a level public awareness now, level of public awareness now, pubuc level of public awareness now, public yourself that public figures yourself that we're reaching a point where this madness will end or or are you less optimistic ? you less optimistic? >> no, i think more and more people are understanding what is at stake. i just think that we now have a better understanding just how far these tentacles reach through all of our public institutions and how many people are completely captured by this. so it's going to take a lot of unravelling. but, you know, it's not a case i think, ever of
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having to convince somebody that they don't want boys and girls spaces. it'sjust they don't want boys and girls spaces. it's just about letting them it's happening. them know that it's happening. and now more people know they and so now more people know they wake maybe there will wake up and maybe there will be more challenges on individual levels , like with schools levels, like with with schools and so on. >> kelly j. keane it's lovely to talk i think you're talk to you. i think you're amazing. i think you're an inspiration and keep up inspiration. and please keep up all work. we really all your hard work. we really do appreciate it. yeah, what a trooper. right? still to come, sir robinson going sir marco robinson is going to be joining talk about the be joining us to talk about the great sleepout . great sleepout. >> that's after your morning >> and that's after your morning news tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. >> martin, thank you and good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom. the government's under pressure to explain why there were delays in removing migrants from the bibby stockholm traces stockholm after traces of legionella were discovered. dorset council says home office contractors were told about the bacteria on the day asylum seekers boarded the barge and all 39 people were removed from the vessel on friday. at least three days after concerns were
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news. the people's channel, britain's news. channel >> welcome back. it's 1039. you're watching britain's newsroom on gb news with martin daubney and bev turner. >> so an entrepreneur is aiming to raise £10,000. he's more than an entrepreneur to send ten people to the economic forum in davos, hoping to give a voice to those experiencing homelessness i >> -- >> sir marco robinson will be sleeping rough for five days and four nights as part of the great sleep out campaign. he'll then use the money to travel with a group of homeless people and entrepreneurs and businessmen to make the world's super make sure the world's super elite face up to this elite at davos face up to this important issue. >> marco , good morning. i >> marco, good morning. i believe you are joining us now from manchester, the greatest city in the world. good to see you. now, people might be going, oh, it's him because , of course, oh, it's him because, of course, you at the moment are starring in have produced legacy of in and have produced legacy of lies. the second highest movie on netflix at the moment. so
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first of all, congrats relations on that. and people would go , on that. and people would go, well, marco's loaded . he's one well, marco's loaded. he's one of the he is one of the elites. he's a rich man. he lives he lives a wonderful life. so why are you doing this? to raise awareness of homelessness and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. >> thank you for having me on. i'm doing this because i used to be homeless myself at the age of two with my mum for on and for off many years and was also homeless as a teenager. and because i experienced homelessness myself and the tragedy of what it is and basically that, you know, many lives are lost during homelessness and many suicide and of course lots of other bad things. and homelessness is very misunderstood . ad lots of people misunderstood. ad lots of people think homelessness is just about not drug abusers and mental health problems, but that's actually the minority. see, most homeless people just cannot afford to pay the rent . and afford to pay the rent. and because you've got a massive cost of living crisis right now, where people are basically one paycheque away from losing their
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house and many people are facing homelessness in real time right now . in these homelessness in real time right now. in these times, homelessness in real time right now . in these times, with all now. in these times, with all our resources, there are still billions of people living in inadequate accommodation. >> can i just ask you, marco, how you became homeless , how how you became homeless, how your mum with a two year old found herself in that situation and then you again as a teenager? because i always think it's interesting to hear people's stories. >> so was two years old, >> so when i was two years old, my mum left. my dad, she was 23. he a gambling addict. she he was a gambling addict. she had no choice. she had no money left. live with her left. she went to live with her mum a step dad in the north left. she went to live with her m|englandi step dad in the north left. she went to live with her m|england andp dad in the north left. she went to live with her m|england and on ad in the north left. she went to live with her m|england and on the1 the north left. she went to live with her m|england and on the step north left. she went to live with her m|england and on the step on rth of england and on the step on the on the step doorstep. and her step dad said, it's either me or them to her mum and her mum cannot stay here. mum said, you cannot stay here. so my mum me to the park so my mum took me to the park and there. now the and we lived there. now the reason her step dad said reason that her step dad said thatis reason that her step dad said that is because sexually that is because he sexually abused she was four abused her since she was four years old under the patriarch. and she was 12 he put his and when she was 12 he put his hand on her breast and said, i
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didn't marry your mum for your mum. i married your mum to get to you. she was terrified. but she had to make shelter for me and her. during that time. she couldn't live there and she was terrified back to terrified even to go back to that particular environment. does it does does that make sense? it does make lot sense. make a lot of sense. >> and then you as a as a as a teenager, you found yourself in a similar situation? >> ian yeah. when was 15, >> ian yeah. when i was 15, i left school without any qualifications mum met qualifications and my mum met the of her dreams , who she's the man of her dreams, who she's still with. there's a happy ending this, but i said to ending to this, but i said to her, go out and live your her, you go out and live your life, what want to do, life, do what you want to do, and i will look after myself and i round all the shops in i went round all the shops in the town and asked them if i could clean their floors for £1 an some of them no, an hour. some of them said no, but of them said yes. and but some of them said yes. and what i used to do is i got the keys to shop and i, i lived keys to the shop and i, i lived either in the loft or under the floor in the cellar. so no one could actually see me. and i was one what we know the one of what we know as the hidden homeless, of which there are people doing are millions of people doing exactly interesting. >> okay, now turning to >> okay, marco, now turning to
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the topic of the great sleepout and your target of davos and your chosen target of davos and your chosen target of davos and world economic forum, of and the world economic forum, of course nothing and course you will own nothing and you be happy. that's you will be happy. well, that's for say. they for easy them to say. they basically are saying in £1,000 a night, hotels, it's jolly for night, hotels, it's a jolly for the nch night, hotels, it's a jolly for the rich on their private the super rich on their private jet. so i'm assuming that's why you're targeting the super elite at davos . at davos. >> yes. actually the hotels are £3,000 a night, not £1,000 a night. and but actually , there night. and but actually, there are actually some really good people in wef that are actually helping the homeless . and we helping the homeless. and we want to bring awareness to people at this conference that homelessness is at epidemic proportions and the divide is not a chasm. it's another universe, right ? they're living universe, right? they're living in one universe and homeless people living in the other universe. but you know, people that are homeless now are people that are homeless now are people that got good jobs and actually there are three months away in savings from losing their their homes if they miss one payment on their credit, homes if they miss one payment on their credit , they get on their credit, they get blacklisted for six years. so we're sleeping rough for five
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days, four nights and up to —20 conditions at the wef outside, we're going to be sharing that with the rest of the world and ask people sleep out with us ask people to sleep out with us in back garden, in the front in the back garden, in the front garden, they can to garden, anywhere they can to give a voice the homeless give a voice to the homeless people there that don't people out there that don't presently voice . and presently have a voice. and we're going to go live and get everyone involved. we want to raise than £10,000 raise way more than £10,000 because penny goes to our because every penny goes to our registered charities . we're registered charities. we're fully registered, completely non—profit . we're paying our own non—profit. we're paying our own way over there . and have way over there. and we have already helped thousands of people the street. fact , people off the street. in fact, dunng people off the street. in fact, during we helped 52 during covid, we helped 52 families street. that families off the street. that have never been homeless again. because that, so because of that, you know, so it's great, great cause. it's a great, great cause. >> so who is going to be sleeping out in davos? only you're going to be in sleeping out in davos? only y(sleeping going to be in sleeping out in davos? only y(sleeping bag going to be in sleeping out in davos? only y(sleeping bag justg to be in sleeping out in davos? only y(sleeping bag just near)e in sleeping out in davos? only y(sleeping bag just near the] a sleeping bag just near the entrance to the to the con ference centres. i do hope so . ference centres. i do hope so. >> you're >> well, actually, you're ianed >> well, actually, you're invited , bev, because we need invited, bev, because we need diversity. so you're very welcome join us. welcome to join us. >> thanks so we have james melville , who you probably know. melville, who you probably know. >> we have simon milne and we
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have a beautiful man called andrew funk, who was the head of homeless entrepreneur barcelona , which is a registered foundation in spain , a csr foundation in spain, a csr program where we get people off the spain and rehouse the streets in spain and rehouse and re—educate them. >> okay , mark, if people want to >> okay, mark, if people want to help pump some money into your fundraiser, do they fundraiser, how do they get involved ? involved? >> to the twitter account >> and go to the twitter account of great sleepout, at great of at great sleepout, at great sleepout, the donation link is there. it's a just giving link. you get 25% gift aid completely tax deductible. just give what you can get involved and join us and build a community of people that want to fight this. so we end it permanently. >> and i've got until january to come up with my excuses as to why not joining you. then why i'm not joining you. then >> well, actually, we have a great homeless sleepout great homeless homeless sleepout day 10th because day in october the 10th because it's homelessness day on it's world homelessness day on october the 10th was sleeping out bev and you would out in london. bev and you would you join us? you like to join us? >> i bet i can't get a day off work. they're very strict here. you know, i've had a boss. >> it's okay. he'll let you have
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a few days of work to join us. it's okay. >> we will always support you, marco. absolutely. to great see you. robinson there. well, you. marco robinson there. well, october the 10th is that i don't know what day of the week it is. if it's i'll go with you. and maybe, maybe we should. we should. we should. we should. right. we're joined now by mike parry bushra shaikh this parry and bushra shaikh this morning, you. what first morning, both of you. what first of me ask you, mike, of all, let me ask you, mike, what to that what do you reckon to that initiative? it's quite a nice way of raising awareness. of course is. course it is. >> and you shouldn't put anybody down to raise the down who's trying to raise the awareness of homelessness. but celebrity homelessness is very different being out on the different to being out on the streets. it's the despair streets. it's the sheer despair air the air of knowing that when the light comes up in the morning, you've got nowhere to you you've got nowhere to go. you are a shower. are not going to have a shower. you may not be able to go into a cafe and get some breakfast. that's what it's all about. so, you know, i do admire them raising money, it really raising money, but it really is celebrity raising money, but it really is celebronce you get out sleeping know, once you get out sleeping bag, to go back into bag, you've got to go back into £1,000 night suite you're £1,000 a night suite and you're very comfortable. yeah, i agree with that, bushra. >> you if get >> but, you know, if you get
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like sleeping out for like a lovely sleeping out for one night and then straight back to the hilton, different. to the hilton, that's different. but lived this life. but marco has lived this life. you know, trodden those you know, he's trodden in those shoes. understands us more shoes. he understands us more than challenges face. than most the challenges face. and, the idea and, you know, i like the idea of the juxtaposition with the kind lobster thermidor kind of lobster thermidor brigade, the all brigade, you know, the all expenses paid davos brunch. and this be and they can't ignore that. >> and they're just easing their consciences, you know. >> derbyshire mike, it's important you know, important because you know, people come from a background with experience. with that experience. >> in >> they they truly have it in their heart. so i think this is a brilliant initiative because the the the class divide across the globe ridiculous . we just globe is ridiculous. we just have the super, super duper rich and people that are and we've got people that are living which living on the street, which shouldn't happening, shouldn't be happening, especially world especially not in first world countries, which even in great britain we do have so if people can get involved, know, absolutely. >> have problem with >> and i have no problem with people plenty money. people making plenty of money. i have problem people have no problem with people working really hard working really, really hard and getting what we're getting rich. but what we're seeing the moment is there is seeing at the moment is there is apparently no trickle down on the generation of wealth is staying in the hands of fewer and people. feels and fewer people. feels a normal, ordinary working people
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are benefiting. are not benefiting. >> can find £7 million a >> and we can find £7 million a day to how house sorry, asylum seekers, but we don't take care of our own homeless. i digress. >> very good point. should we talk about the that barack talk about the fact that barack obama gay , the little obama might be gay, the little gay change? bushra shaikh what on this story about? on earth is this story about? well, okay, this is in the this is this morning in the daily telegraph about barack obama, about letter wrote to about a love letter he wrote to an ex girlfriend, 40 years ago. >> and it's resurfaced now and it's about him saying that his mind is androgynous and he hopes to make it more so until he thinks that in terms of people rather than men and women. so this is again, about sexuality and gender. i mean, okay, this kind of seeps into this this idea that i know on social media that people were questioning michelle obama's gender as well. >> at one point there has been a social media rumour meme for a little while now that michelle obama was formerly a man, particularly because barack
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obama was very much the driving force behind gay marriage in america and trans legislation changes. we have no evidence whatsoever ever that michelle obama was formerly a man. but is this a revelation to you, mike? >> well, it's quite revelatory . >> well, it's quite revelatory. but remember, we're in times now where nobody would even blink. you know, and remember that it comes from a letter that's just been revealed. but there was a book written in 2017 about barack obama when one of his girlfriends wrote poems hailing his bedroom prowess. right. in 2017. so it looks like he's an athlete all round, doesn't he? >> or or it could just be the case that these days it's very fashionable just to kind of dally with these kind of things, progressive. it's you know, it's gender fluid, honestly , he gender fluid, honestly, he wasn't trendy 40 years ago when he was writing this letter. >> no, it's not. it's 40 years ago. and the fact that he's saying that in his mind, he's making to love men, i find that's really unusual. so i don't know whether there is something in this because like
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you beth, he was heavily you said, beth, he was heavily involved trans involved with pushing the trans lgbtq agenda . you know , to lgbtq agenda. and, you know, to think that michelle, this whole gender identity crisis, you know , on social media with with michelle obama , maybe was michelle obama, maybe she was the leaked the letter. the one that leaked the letter. >> presidents >> she was american presidents have with this have some problem with this because you remember america's worst ever president, peanut carter, jemmy carter, sorry , carter, jemmy carter, sorry, peanut farmer. jemmy carter once gave an interview to playboy magazine saying, i have never strayed from my marriage, but i have lust in my heart for other women . doddie weir or, you know, women. doddie weir or, you know, he'd gone off his rocker as well. i don't know whether it happens to presidents when they enter the white house. yeah, it's extraordinary. enter the white house. yeah, it's she extraordinary. enter the white house. yeah, it's she she aordinary. enter the white house. yeah, it's she she hadinary. enter the white house. yeah, it's she she had published these >> she she had published these letters before, but she'd redacted redacted sections of them. but she's now them. yeah, but she's now actually made it made them public. and he went on to say my mind is androgynous to a great extent and i hope to make it more so until i can think in terms of people, not women as opposed to men. and so much of
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where we are culturally can be traced back to barack obama. >> yeah. so bizarre because, you know, we're at a stage where we're trying to fight the fact that we have genders and those genders look different and we want private personal spaces. >> and you spaces. >> and then you have this happening background. happening in the background. >> change of gear >> yeah. okay. a change of gear now let's move to the front page of the daily telegraph, a subject know close to your subject i know close to your heart. yes, bev. children ignored covid inquiry. ignored by the covid inquiry. what's the story this? what's the story on this? >> made front page? yeah. what's the story on this? >> i'iade front page? yeah. what's the story on this? >> i mean, front page? yeah. what's the story on this? >> i mean, to ront page? yeah. what's the story on this? >> i mean, to bet page? yeah. what's the story on this? >> i mean, to be honest,yeah. what's the story on this? >> i mean, to be honest, this. what's the story on this? >> i mean, to be honest, this is a scandal , >> i mean, to be honest, this is a scandal, isn't it? because baroness hallett is in charge of the. she's chairman of the covid inquiry okay. and basically , inquiry okay. and basically, what, two charities and charities aren't normally , you charities aren't normally, you know, known to be, you know, seeking all the answers, although they don't accord with the way they think. but two charities, save the children uk and nspcc are among the groups that have come together to write to baroness hallett because they're worried that people under 18 are not being able to
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give their views on how badly lockdown affected them . and we lockdown affected them. and we all know the people most badly affected by lockdown were children under the age of 18. but what makes school so this is an astonishing revelation. i find it absolutely outrageous. and people are now writing to baroness hallett and say these children must not be ignored. children on are not an afterthought or an inconvenience to this inquiry process. their lives were turned upside down. >> but give me a break, because where was save the children and where was save the children and where were the nspcc? bushra nowhere. during lockdowns, when everyone was shouting for schools to be closed and to roll out untested drugs to children. where were they then? >> they were they were absolutely silent. and i've got three children, so i know how much lockdown impacted them. but you one of those you know, i'm one of those parents. sure they parents. i made sure that they were okay i was speaking to were okay and i was speaking to them you said, i'm them and like you said, i'm really surprised it's on the front page because why was it that all of this was
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that when all of this was happening, nobody was saying that when all of this was hap|is1ing, nobody was saying that when all of this was hap|is goingiobody was saying that when all of this was hap|is going to ody was saying that when all of this was hap|is going to impact saying that when all of this was hap|is going to impact kids ng this is going to impact kids down the there are down the line? there are children there have children out there that have speech speech speech delays like speech delays. to delays. they're not able to compute information the that compute information the way that they behind the they can. they so behind the education , it's awful. education system, it's awful. >> criminal. and actually , >> it's criminal. and actually, they even children they weren't even children weren't the terms of weren't in the terms of reference for inquiry reference for this inquiry except for them. and except for us for them. and molly kingsley fought for it. >> know it's to going >> and we all know it's to going go for because as we're go on for years because as we're sitting now, there's sitting here now, there's a debate on a—level debate going on about a—level grades, which again, is an effect children being at effect of children being at school, not getting proper lessons having the grades. lessons and having the grades. >> on the one hand and, you know, no, no, thank the lord. we're talking about and the we're talking about this and the thank on the front thank the lord is on the front page. on the other hand is this charities playing kind of revisionism ? yes. are they revisionism? yes. are they trying of launder their trying to kind of launder their karma? they're trying karma? you know, they're trying to speaking out now to to they're speaking out now to try do away with their try and do away with their silence at the time. >> i think they are. but i think there's an unintended consequence, because although that may be the reason the charities have got involved, the bigger impact people like us bigger impact is people like us
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are all outraged that, you know, this is happening and that children who were the biggest victims of lockdown are not being spoken to and their voices are not being heard. so yes, you may be right. the reasons for the charities getting involved, but the consequence of it is it's going to get a lot, lot bigger now . and the bigger audience now. and the children should be talked to . children should be talked to. yeah, absolutely. >> still 100,000 >> and there are still 100,000 children missing from full time education because of lockdowns and some of the and they are some of the neediest and most disadvantaged kids yeah, no, kids in the country. yeah, no, it's absolutely extraordinary. >> we, uh, we don't we don't >> um, we, uh, we don't we don't want to go on to another story. we're not going. we've got this. the stories are so good today, i don't want to waste them without having a time. and our commentators are so fabulous as well. >> absolutely. okay, we have to move on. >> move on. >> you. yes. okay. >> you. you. yes. okay. >> to our next story. thanks, guys. you next hour. guys. see you in the next hour. okay. estama just blair in disguise when it comes his disguise when it comes to his views on relationship with views on our relationship with the more that the eu. we'll have more on that in next few moments. that's right. >> this is britain's newsroom on gb news, britain's news channel. >> this is britain's newsroom on
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gb news. >> so in the morning, it's 11 am. on monday the 14th of august. this is britain's newsroom with myself, martin daubney and bev turner. >> so thank you very much for joining us on this monday morning. has the government given tackling illegal given up on tackling illegal migration? a memo migration? a leaked memo suggests could last suggests the crisis could last up years. the government up to five years. the government know that. does that come as a surprise to you? >> labour's shadow immigration minister said it's time to minister has said it's time to end the small boats nightmare, but we're asking is starmer just tony blair in disguise ? and a tony blair in disguise? and a group of charities have written to the covid inquiry warning
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that the voice of children is being ignored . being ignored. >> one of the charities is going to join us live. i've got some questions for them . questions for them. the tories this morning gb views at gbnews.com is the email address. but first of all, here's tatiana sanchez with your latest . news beth . latest. news beth. >> beth, thank you. good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom. the government is under pressure to explain why there were delays in the removing migrants from the bibby stockholm traces of stockholm after traces of legionella discovered. legionella were discovered. dorset council says home office contractors were told about the bacteria on the day asylum seekers boarded the barge. all 39 people were removed from the vessel on friday, at least three days after concerns were raised. shadow northern ireland secretary peter kyle says the government is focusing on the
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wrong thing . wrong thing. >> if there is a barge which is being brought to our country and is so rusty that it needed work done on it to make it safe, worthy to travel across the channel worthy to travel across the channel, then is it safe for human habitation? have the tests been done? ministers won't even asking because they were so busy trying to create a row in public that they thought would be politically advantageous for them. if you focus on headlines rather than focusing on solutions , will always come solutions, it will always come back bite you. and that is back to bite you. and that is the story of this government. >> government is set to >> the government is set to announce new plans to ensure cancer is caught earlier before its targets will be scrapped and replaced with a new, faster diagnosis standard, which will see patients who've been urgently referred receiving a diagnosis within 28 days. patient with cancer will then start treatment within nine weeks from the date of referral . while the nhs says the proposals will help diagnose more cancers earlier and save more cancers earlier and save more lives , it comes as junior
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more lives, it comes as junior doctors in england continue their four day strike. it's estimated a million procedures and appointments will be cancelled and rearranged due to the action. the walkout started on friday and ends at 7 am. tomorrow. it's the fifth round of strikes by british medical association members since march over a pay dispute . wheel chair over a pay dispute. wheel chair of the bma east midlands junior doctors committee , jamshid khan, doctors committee, jamshid khan, says the government should pay junior doctors fairly if it wants waiting lists to go down. >> the government has refused to come to the negotiating table so we've got a very clear demand which is we want to be paid a bit more than £14 an hour. so to restore our pay back to the levels it was in 2008 would be to bring our pay up from £14 now to bring our pay up from £14 now to £19. now the government is unwilling to invest in the staff where people are going to where the people are going to bnng where the people are going to bring down the waiting list. and if not paying us, it if they're not paying us, it just means that services , just means that the services, you know, going to get worse to people are still in a serious condition after a car crashed
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into a campsite in pembrokeshire. >> nine people were hurt when the vehicle flipped and rolled ploughing into them at the newgale site on saturday night. one of those critically injured was airlifted to hospital. a child and baby were in a tent that was hit, but escaped serious injury. the number of people killed in the hawaii wildfires has now reached 93. it's feared the number of victims could still climb with hundreds of people still missing . the historic resort town of lahaina on the island of maui was mostly destroyed. the federal emergency management agency estimates it will cost more than £4 billion to rebuild . network rail has released video of dangerous behaviour at level crossings . cctv level crossings. cctv compilation shows the person doing press ups dog walkers sitting their pets on the tracks for photos and children putting stones on the line. nearly 50 cases of misuse have been reported by train drivers who were caught on camera in
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worcestershire and the west midlands. so far this year. network rail is trying to raise awareness and discourage people from risking their lives . from risking their lives. messages encouraging smokers to quit could be added to the inside of cigarette packets . inside of cigarette packets. proposals being considered by the government would highlight the government would highlight the health and financial benefits of giving up inserts would also offer advice and support for those trying to stop their already used in countries like canada , israel and like canada, israel and australia. it's hoped the inserts could lead to an additional 30,000 smokers giving up their habit and save up to £16 up their habit and save up to £1.6 billion in health costs. pubsin £1.6 billion in health costs. pubs in england and wales will be allowed to continue selling takeaway pints. the rules were brought in to help pubs during covid lockdowns as they were meant to end in september. but the government has decided to keep licencing meaning keep the licencing laws, meaning established courts don't need an extra licence for off site sales . this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital
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radio and on your smart speaker. by radio and on your smart speaker. by simply saying play gb news. now it's back to martin and beth i >> -- >> now a top story today is of course, the ongoing migrant crisis . we know how well the crisis. we know how well the government are doing with it, but how would the labour party tackle it? >> well, over the weekend. shadow immigration minister stephen we will stephen kinnock said we will negotiate new returns negotiate a new returns agreements with the european union so graham stringer, mp, labour mp , sits on the foreign labour mp, sits on the foreign affairs select committee. >> morning, graham. good to >> good morning, graham. good to see you. course, when you see you. of course, when you hear stephen stephen kinnock talking like that, we will negotiate a new returns agreement with the it sounds agreement with the eu. it sounds like stepping back into the eu by small incremental movements in that direction, which will worry a lot of people . worry a lot of people. >> it would worry me if that was the case. the fact that we are close to the european union
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means we should look for good relationships with them without being controlled by them. without them deciding our laws. the reason i campaigned to leave the eu was quite simply because i think the people of the united kingdom should be responsible for their own laws via elections to parliament, not having those laws imposed by the european bureaucracy and structures . so bureaucracy and structures. so being close to the european union, we need good relations with them. and in that sense , with them. and in that sense, stephen kinnock is right, although i think he is showing a great deal of optimism because when we were in the eu and there was the dublin convention which said that people could be sent back to the first safe country, they went to, there were very few people that were actually sent back. well graham, it's great to hear that you campaigned for the will of the
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people on brexit, but your leader, keir starmer, didn't. >> in fact, for years he >> in fact, for three years he tried cancel brexit and tried to cancel brexit and stephen kinnock's cosying up to the eu will alarm bells the eu will sound alarm bells out. not just your out. it's not just him. your your shadow secretary your shadow foreign secretary david lammy his number one david lammy said his number one priority will be a closer deal with the european union should labour get into on labour get into power on defence, on education and or on trade and another alarming thing that came out of mr kinnock's reports was he said that ensure genuine refugees can contribute to britain. i'm assuming that means work visas. i put that to your shadow education minister yesterday and she said yes, labour would for be that. so surely closer alignment with the eu and more and more cheap laboun eu and more and more cheap labour. this feels like a return to a rejoin keir starmer said the decision has been made. >> we're out of the european union, we're responsible for our own laws negotiating in
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relationships with the eu is quite different from that. i accept that. what you say that there is a history of some people with in the labour party after the decision in 2016 to leave the eu . some people, and leave the eu. some people, and i think they were quite wrong to do this, wanted a second referendum and wanted a pathway back into the eu . that is back into the eu. that is history. now the labour party's policy is clear for we're not going to apply to rejoin, we're staying outside. but obviously we want a good relationship with them and certainly we do not want to be part of any european army that would lead to a to centre control . within europe of centre control. within europe of nato and the european union. so i think i understand why you're worried . i keep a careful eye on worried. i keep a careful eye on it. but the labour party policy is clear on that. >> can i ask you, graham, about this memo that's leaked today
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that's in the papers coming from the government saying that they think that the problem of illegal migration be in illegal migration will be in existence in this country for at least five years. and they also say that the bibby stockholm boat won't provide value for money if there are only 500 people on it as planned . it people on it as planned. it would only be economically success story if they can house a thousand migrants on that particular boat. do you think we need to see more transparent about the amounts that we're spending on housing immigrants and whether our adventures like ventures like the bibby stockholm are actually beneficial in terms of the finances of this , or whether finances of this, or whether it's just a token gesture that makes the front pages of all the papers . papers. >> i think there's no doubt, as peter kyle said earlier in your news bulletin, the government have been keen to draw dividing lines with the labour party and
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chase headlines and they have been to deal with the problem that we've got. i think there's two ways of looking at this . the two ways of looking at this. the way the government have dealt with people coming to this country seeking refugee status has been very inefficient. the way . loops are, we losing them ? way. loops are, we losing them? >> i think we've lost graeme. >> i think we've lost graeme. >> we lost him. okay. i was going to ask him about the deal we have with france and we're joined by olivia utley. we can talk to olivia about it in a moment. i want to know if this dealis moment. i want to know if this deal is worth continuing with. we're spending half £1 billion on france. on this deal with france. olivia, let's cut to you straight away. we'll try and retain there. retain connection there. we're spending billion a spending half £1 billion on a deal france. it's emerged deal with france. it's emerged today that french lifeboats took three times longer to get to the scene the disaster. three times longer to get to the scene the disaster . only three times longer to get to the scene the disaster. only four scene of the disaster. only four miles off the coast of france , miles off the coast of france, where six people sadly died. 20%
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of the cops patrolling beaches are on holiday at a time when it's the peak departure time. lawlessness in the camps, gunfire to warships escorting dinghies out of french waters and parading them back to britain . is and parading them back to britain. is this £500 million a year worth it, or is it time to scrap that deal? well, it's a very interesting question. >> and this, of course, isn't the first time that britain has shelled out a huge amount of money to try and prop up the french police when they're patrolling the borders. this is the first time that the deal that rishi agreed earlier that rishi sunak agreed earlier this is the first time that this year is the first time that british police officers have been stationed france. but been stationed in france. but they're only allowed to observe what's going on. they're not actually allowed to intervene. and the real problem is that the french police have a policy of not intervening, not intercepting a boat once it's actually set sail. the worry is that they could accidentally endanger lives by intercepting once the boats set sail. but
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because of that, the french police have a really , really police have a really, really small amount of time to try and get hold of these boats before they go in the sea. >> a couple of minutes. it's exactly it's a sort of 50 mile if you can just picture it, 50 mile stretch of coast. >> very dark sand dunes everywhere. migrants sort of hiding behind these lots of nooks and crannies for people to hide . and then a couple of hide. and then a couple of minutes between leaving those sand dunes and getting out onto the sea where the french police have a moment to intercept and all often, obviously, that all too often, obviously, that moment is missed. so you've got tory now saying, well, the tory mps now saying, well, the french just need to change that policy intercepting boats policy of intercepting boats once the because once they're in the sea, because it for these boats it does seem mad for these boats to be patrolling, to be to be sort of patrolling, to be to be sort of patrolling, to be to monitoring these migrant to be monitoring these migrant ships in the sea when they're in trouble. >> olivia, i think we've got graham back. graham stringer i think revived think we've revived your question . there you are. can question. there you are. can i just ask you briefly, one of our contributors earlier, um, immigration lawyer ivan sampson , was saying that there should be means by which people who
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be a means by which people who want to live in this country should be able to apply by onune should be able to apply by online have to get here online and not have to get here in order to apply for asylum, which is the current situation . which is the current situation. ian, would that be some way towards a solution for you . towards a solution for you. >> it would help certainly the people who are paying being international criminals , a lot international criminals, a lot of money to cross the channel, to come to this country are putting themselves and sometimes children at risk. putting themselves and sometimes children at risk . and that needs children at risk. and that needs stopping . i think there are stopping. i think there are there are two sides to the problem. one is we need a better and more effective system of deaung and more effective system of dealing with people seeking asylum. the waiting lists have grown and secondly, i think the 1951 convention tension on refugees really needs increasing . well, it needs changing
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because because the world has changed dramatically . the changed dramatically. the refugee convention has saved many lives over the 70 or so years that it's been there , but years that it's been there, but it is now in appropriate. people are picking and choosing which country they go to. people coming from france are coming from a safe country . they're from a safe country. they're coming to this country. from a safe country. they're coming to this country . they're coming to this country. they're choosing to come here and put themselves and sometimes children at risk. and they're financing international criminal city. so we have to have something that deals with that problem as well as a more efficient local system. >> graham there'll be a great many people listening to this quite concerned about labour's direction of travel here. firstly, if your immigration minister wants make it easier minister wants to make it easier for asylum seekers to get a work visa , we know about 75% of visa, we know about 75% of people who apply, they get asylum. so that's a lot of people that will want to come to britain because they'll be legally allowed to without legally allowed to work without even they or even knowing who they are or where from. and where they've come from. and secondly, able to apply
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secondly, to be able to apply for asylum even being in for asylum without even being in the country. surely both of those policies mean that the pull would be pull factor to britain would be immense and the numbers of asylum would increase under a labour government ? labour government? >> well, i think one of the changes that needs to take place is there's clearly a limited a limited capacity in this country. >> the convention on refugees doesn't recognise any capacity issues when it was set up in 1951, that was simply not an issue.i 1951, that was simply not an issue. i think it's very important to keep people who want to come to this country to work and can apply for work visas separate from the asylum system. i have written to constituents and stated publicly that people who are applying for asylum should not be allowed to work because that mixes the two systems up. it undermines the refugee system and it undermines the system of work visas. that would be wrong to do that. of
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course , if people become course, if people become refugees, then they they have the right to work. that's always been the case in terms of. well, i've answered the first point about increased numbers . i think about increased numbers. i think we simply have to have a limit on the number of refugees that we can take. and it shouldn't be a pick and mix system for people coming to this country because they fancy this country. let me tell you 1—1 thing. it takes a lot of effort and time to process refugees. some of them are genuine. and i think we have to say very bluntly, some of them aren't genuine. i've talked to my local chief superintendent who said some of the people who've crossed the channel particularly from albania , go particularly from albania, go straight into one of the hotspots of crime in my constituency , where there are constituency, where there are facsimile goods on on sale, the
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police are trying to clear that up.and police are trying to clear that up. and as they clear it up, they've had more people who've been pretending to be asylum seekers coming in and joining those criminals. it's a complicated situation and we have to be very clear that we protect our own borders while being fair to people who have a genuine claim for refugee status without accepting that there is infinite capacity in this country for the health service, for housing and for other services . services. >> liz okay. thank you so much . >> liz okay. thank you so much. that's so interesting. graham stringer their mp gives me so much to think about when i when ihear much to think about when i when i hear somebody like that, you know, laying it out like that. i think it is complicated. i was chatting to my uber driver the other day, as you do, and i always do because i always want to know where from, to know where they're from, what's journey, do what's their journey, how do they get here. i think it's really illuminating often. and he born. father he was afghan born. his father was by the taliban and was tortured by the taliban and came ten years ago. was came over ten years ago. was really he gave me some really tortured. he gave me some
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details won't repeat them on details i won't repeat them on morning tv and came over ten years by a human years ago by a human traffickers. i why traffickers. and i said, why didn't he stay france ? and he didn't he stay in france? and he said, fundamentally , we want to said, fundamentally, we want to go to an english speaking country. we speak english. we don't want french, we don't speak french. we want to work. and couldn't work if he and he couldn't work if he didn't have the language. and then he he waited ten years then he said he waited ten years before sorry. know, he before his sorry. you know, he he he came over longer than he was he came over longer than 20 but ten years until 20 years, but ten years until his children joined him. and i said, why didn't women and said, why didn't the women and children, why do we always see men? the journey is men? and he said, the journey is too can't. he too dangerous. we can't. he said, was three, four, you said, i was three, four, you know, my siblings were five and six. couldn't come over. six. we couldn't have come over. and didn't to come and he didn't want us to come over illegally. said he over illegally. he said he wanted we were going to wanted that if we were going to come over, we would come over legally he said, work as a legally and he said, i work as a buildings make buildings regulator. i make £60,000 work as an £60,000 a year and i work as an uber driver on the side. and i've had three children of my own here. >> it just pulls into relief, though, is our duty as a nation to anybody who to house anybody who wants a better life across world and better life across the world and i personally don't think that
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that's the case. graham stringer there speaking there i thought speaking a lot of common bringing you of common sense, bringing you back lee but he back in, olivia lee but he again, he talking odds again, he was talking at odds with his own immigration minister. he was talking odds minister. he was talking at odds with shadow education with his own shadow education minister. he said, i'm against work visas. but the shadow immigration minister seems to be going in that direction as travel. you can understand travel. so you can understand that the voters are very confused about labour's offering when it seems so kind all when it seems so kind of all over the yeah it doesn't over the shop. yeah it doesn't feel though a huge feel as though there's a huge amount on labour's amount of clarity on labour's immigration policy. >> sort of crux of labour's >> the sort of crux of labour's immigration policy appears to be keir starmer saying that he will solve the problem upstream as he puts it, and agree a deal with both the french and the european union. graham stringer union. well, as graham stringer pointed there, when pointed out, there, even when the convention was in the dublin convention was in place, the dublin convention was an which we were an eu convention, which we were part of when were in the eu. part of when we were in the eu. and it stated if a migrant and it stated that if a migrant comes once they reach a safe country , they must stay in that country, they must stay in that safe country and not travel any further. but even when the
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dubun further. but even when the dublin convention was in place, yes, we had the same yes, obviously we had the same problem, this migrant crisis has been going since 2015, long before left the eu before we actually left the eu because at the end of the day, eu countries have no incentive to take migrants back from england. once they get to england, once they reach english shores, why would they? of course they won't. so it's not that's not a silver bullet solution all. as for solution at all. and as for agreeing some kind of deal agreeing some kind of a deal with french, we've with the french, well, we've seen try that over seen rishi sunak try that over and again. as we've and over again. as we've discussed, just given them discussed, he's just given them £500 million to try and soften relations. yes, macron had a very bad relationship with boris johnson . yes, he had a bad johnson. yes, he had a bad relationship liz truss, but relationship with liz truss, but he has a good relationship with rishi sunak things still are rishi sunak and things still are no than they were. yeah. no better than they were. yeah. >> you, olivia. >> oh, thank you, olivia. >> oh, thank you, olivia. >> you very much. >> thank you very much. i'm looking you've been looking at what you've been saying well this morning saying as well this morning about immigration. says about immigration. china says bravo, , europe should bravo, poland, europe should drop schengen put borders back, reinstate sovereign national passports. this was that was the best filtering system best filtering security system even best filtering security system ever. look where we are. the ever. now look where we are. the fox owns the henhouse. ever. now look where we are. the
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fox yeah, the henhouse. ever. now look where we are. the fox yeah, and1enhouse. ever. now look where we are. the fox yeah, and that's,se. ever. now look where we are. the fox yeah, and that's, of course, >> yeah, and that's, of course, the polish prime minister has given referendum given his people a referendum against the eu's plans to relocate illegal immigrants into his country without them having a say so with a very punchy advert has to be said. it was quite fruity. but look, we put it to you all morning. do you want similar kind of want a similar kind of referendum been referendum here? it's been pointing we had that pointing out what we had that with brexit and ignored that. >> we got a really interesting nhs story next because it's been called billion quid bid. called the billion quid bid. it's called emis it's for a company called emis and cleared and it's been cleared unexpectedly by the competition watchdog and will affect how unexpectedly by the competition wat
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patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . gb news radio. >> welcome back. it's 1126. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce. that's me. martin daubney and bev turner. i've transitioned . bev turner. i've transitioned. >> some of you are asking if andrew's all right. he was poorly last week. he's better now. but this was always due to be his week, so be his holiday week, so hopefully resting up hopefully he's resting up properly. he's had he was poorly last he's on last week and now he's on holiday, getting holiday, hopefully getting better. flies better. yeah, great. it flies by, doesn't it? when you said it's 1125, it's a it's a fast paced show. >> i love this show. >> i love this show. >> oh well, i do love you being here. >> i hope you're enjoying it at home. thank you forjoining us. home. thank you for joining us. now, american of now, the american takeover of emis, care software emis, a health care software group, has been unexpectedly cleared regulators . cleared by british regulators. the had the competition watchdog had previously that the £12 previously said that the £12 billion deal with united health could disadvantage the nhs. >> , the competition and >> yeah, the competition and markets authority ruled
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provisionally the provisionally that the combination would not harm competition or adversely affects patients and their now consult on its findings. so let's find out a bit more from doctor bob gill. >> good morning, bob. good to see you. so just explain to people, if you don't mind , what people, if you don't mind, what this company is, what do they do and how might it affect patients experiences of the nhs? this company emis so this is the biggest provider of electronic patient records for gp's , so patient records for gp's, so that means more than half the patients in england have their personal data posted by imi. >> and what united health is? united health is the biggest private health insurer in america . so this is a corporate america. so this is a corporate giant and people need to be asking themselves why is a private insurer so keen to pay big money for a gp data system ? big money for a gp data system? and the answer is you cannot get
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to the root problem. and unless we understand that the nhs has been largely repurposed into a tax funded corporate cash cow and handing over control of data like the competition commission has, has sort of a rubber stamp , is potentially a big danger in terms of what these companies will do with that data, how they will do with that data, how they will commercialise that data , will commercialise that data, who else will get sight of that data and ultimately how they will commercialise it and sell back products to the nhs and the taxpayer pays through their nose for things that may or may not have any medical value. >> how interesting. so look , any >> how interesting. so look, any of us who have any interactions with our gps or with the nhs , we with our gps or with the nhs, we know that the system of age department communicating with each other is appalling . if each other is appalling. if i just want to order a repeat prescription online with my gp, it never works. the gp doesn't
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know what the hospital has said to you. the hospital doesn't know the treatment you have from the gp. the system does need fixing in terms of communication, doesn't it? bob sure, but i don't think this current deal has got anything to do with fixing communication. >> what it is all about is grabbing hold of data, which is a huge potential future asset for any big company. a huge potential future asset for any big company . you know, for any big company. you know, data is described as a new oil because it has immense potential future commercial value . the future commercial value. the question should be why ? why is question should be why? why is the government and the competition commission in assisting an asset grab by a foreign corporation? this is essentially what's going on and a private health insurer. now the alarm bells should be ringing because united health, through their subsidiary, optum , is not only grabbing patient data, but it's also entrenched in the behind the scenes working of the nhs. and they're also part of the new restructuring of
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the nhs, which became law last yean the nhs, which became law last year, which is turning it into 42 public private partnership legal entities across the country called integrated care systems. so you have an american insurer with a growing dominance within the nhs and let's not forget, they're only in interest in being involved is to extract profit . profit. >> okay, bob, as well as the issue of profit and selling data, there's also the issue of it being hacked. we've seen with the electoral commission was probed into potentially by overseas affairs, the russians. but i want to ask you about this data as a use of our health information is very much the preserve of people like tony blair, the tony blair foundation . let's get all our medical records onto our phone. let's turn us all into walking barcodes, our immunisation , our barcodes, our immunisation, our vaccine status, our health records. do you see this within the nhs? nhs app as a direction of travel, of turning us all
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into information and that being used potentially to limit what we can do in the future in some kind of chinese style social credit system ? yeah you've got a credit system? yeah you've got a very, very important point there. >> you have. i believe, health and public health is now being used as a wedge to get the security and, you know, national surveillance systems underway. very similar to the chinese system, the social credit system. there so this may well be a mechanism for further authoritarian control, dressed up as a some sort of health initiative . so our government is initiative. so our government is avoiding democratic oversight. it's ending and doing deals with private companies . so each of private companies. so each of these entities can point the finger at each other. meanwhile we are losing rights. we are losing protection of our confidential private medical data , which we share in good data, which we share in good faith with our gps. but now we learn this is ending up on systems that are commercially
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controlled . this is this should controlled. this is this should be really ringing very loud alarm bells amongst the public. >> it should be. and it isn't, bob.and >> it should be. and it isn't, bob. and that's why we really appreciate your time to explain it to us this morning. dr. bob gill that is why this channel is amazing because this story isn't understood by most of the people who are recording it, who are reporting it, they're barely reporting it, and they're barely reporting it, and they're barely reporting they don't reporting it. they don't understand on. understand what's going on. >> don't forget, was only >> and don't forget, it was only five ago. the government five minutes ago. the government wants covid wants us all to have covid passports able to fly, to passports to be able to fly, to be able work. if you're in be able to work. if you're in the nhs, you remember vaccine mandates able to travel mandates to be able to travel abroad, to be able go to abroad, even to be able to go to the a sporting event. is the pub or a sporting event. is this a way in for it? >> oh, brilliant. >> oh, brilliant. >> right? you are lucky to >> right? you are very lucky to be is britain's be here. this is britain's newsroom on . gb news. oh bev, newsroom on. gb news. oh bev, thank you very much. >> this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the government is under pressure to explain why there were delays in removing migrants from the bibby
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stockholm after traces of legionella were discovered. dorset council says home office contractors were told about the bacteria on the day asylum seekers boarded the barge . all seekers boarded the barge. all 39 people were removed from the vessel on friday. at least three days after concerns were raised. while the labour leader , sir while the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says the government's failing to tackle the issue. i don't think the answer to this is barges is hotels, massive costs £6 million a day airbase . a day airbase. >> is that that's the symptom. the problem is that the government hasn't done enough work to break the gangs that are running this trade, this vile trade and to process the applications . and so the applications. and so the government has made a complete and utter mess of this. i mean, small boats week last week was a complete fiasco . we would fix complete fiasco. we would fix the fundamentals , go after the the fundamentals, go after the gangs that are running this and process the claims. so we don't have this problem in the first place . place. >> the government is set to announce new plans to ensure
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bright spells and showers. but there's this frontal system that's moved in. it's brought some outbreaks of rain to southern and southwestern parts. it's through wales it's now moving through wales into northern england. that's where heaviest most where the heaviest and most persistent be for the persistent rain will be for the rest the day. rain warning in rest of the day. rain warning in force because of the risk of localised flooding 40mm widely, 60 in 1 or 2 places and 60 to 80 in 1 or 2 places and some showers following some thundery showers following that for parts of northern that rain for parts of northern england and north wales. elsewhere, scattered elsewhere, it's scattered showers. will slow showers. these will be slow moving scotland. moving across northern scotland. brighter spells into the south and southeast . that's where the and southeast. that's where the warmest will be. it's going warmest air will be. it's going to cool where we've got the to feel cool where we've got the persistent however, now persistent rain. however, now that clear that persistent rain does clear into north eventually into the north sea, eventually overnight, although does overnight, although it does unger overnight, although it does linger for a time across northeast england and it will be dnvenin northeast england and it will be driven in by a brisk breeze coming in from the north sea. otherwise, once that rain does clear, there'll be some clear spells. still some showers in the west. a mild night to come , the west. a mild night to come, 12 celsius, fairly widely. 12 to 15 celsius, fairly widely. then as we start off tuesday, we've still got some remnants of that rainfall affecting the nonh that rainfall affecting the north coast of northern north sea coast of northern england eastern scotland .
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channel >> welcome back. >> welcome back. >> it's 1140. welcome back with britain's newsroom on gb news. with me, bev turner and martin daubney. >> now the voice of children has been ignored by the covid inquiry that's according to more than 40 leading charities and experts. in a letter to baroness hallett. >> that's right. the charities include save the children and the nspcc , and they're demanding the nspcc, and they're demanding an explanation for unaco acceptable delays in examining the impact of the pandemic on young people. we're joined now by dan paskins, director of uk impact at save the children. good morning, dan . great to see good morning, dan. great to see you. i must start by asking you, you. i must start by asking you, you probably heard me before the break. where were charities like you when lockdowns were happening, when schools were being closed, when great ormond street hospital were reporting an extraordinary increase in head trauma to children who were locked at home with abusive parents. where were save the
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children during that period of time ? time? >> so right from the start of the lockdown, save the children were directly supporting families. so we provide grants to families working with local schools , nurseries and other schools, nurseries and other local charities, and that's to help with things like food, to help with things like food, to help with things like food, to help with learning packs , to help with learning packs, to help with learning packs, to help with learning packs, to help with toys , things for help with toys, things for children's play. and we were also together with many other charities , saying to the charities, saying to the government throughout the pandemic that it was really important to consider children and their experiences . now, and their experiences. now, there are some really tough decisions that the government was making throughout this time, things where people had some really strong opinions where to be honest, there's good arguments sides, but arguments on both sides, but what's important what's really important and unfortunately it didn't happen enough, that the best enough, was that the best interests of children were considered and where there was a decision taken which would have a damaging impact on children that the government thought about, what would about, well, what would need to be in order minimise be done in order to minimise that make things up that or to make things up
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afterwards . so that's something afterwards. so that's something which we were saying many charities were saying sort of all way during the pandemic all the way during the pandemic . important that . but it's really important that that continues to be the case because it's like this has because it's not like this has gone away. >> you more and more >> but were you more and more challenges that children are experiencing now? >> dan but dan, i >> but but, dan but dan, can i just ask were you amongst just ask you, were you amongst some from all sectors some people from all sectors spent a spectrum of outlets across the country, be that media or doctors or teachers or charities who were frightened to question the government narrative at the time , who narrative at the time, who weren't looking at the risk to children of covid, which was statistically zero, and making more noise to change government policy to get them to wake up to the damage that was going to be caused for decades . caused for decades. >> i mean, i don't think we were we'd ever be sort of scared to speak up about what's best for children is, you know, that's vital for what we do. you know, throughout, as i say, you know, we both directly, but also
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amplifying, know, the amplifying, you know, the excellent work that was done by others, sort parents others, by sort of parents groups, by, you know, by the charities, by everyone who was looking at what's best for children . as say, i mean, children. but as i say, i mean, you know, some some of these were difficult decisions where almost whichever whatever decision was taken would cause some difficulty. so it's about it's doing what's right some difficulty. so it's about it's sort doing what's right some difficulty. so it's about it's sort of oing what's right some difficulty. so it's about it's sort of thinking t's right some difficulty. so it's about it's sort of thinking about1t and sort of thinking about matters for children. >> according to according to companies the companies house save the children got £65 million of government grants in 2020 during lockdowns . did that make it hard lockdowns. did that make it hard for you to push back on government policy when there was one direction of travel with that narrative? >> no, there was. there was never any sort of question that we wouldn't sort of speak up for children because of funding and that's for save the children's international work. is international work. so this is particularly, you know, talking about children the uk about sort of children in the uk , we wouldn't wouldn't stop , we wouldn't we wouldn't stop speaking the speaking up for children in the uk we're so sort of uk because we're all so sort of helping children all around the world. >> okay, well, let's it world. >> okay, well, let's move it on to i appreciate you
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to now. i appreciate you clarifying covid clarifying that. the covid inquiry moment, baroness inquiry at the moment, baroness hallett job of coming hallett has this job of coming to a conclusion . it will take to a conclusion. it will take years. it has so far cost us, i think, £40 million to date . and think, £40 million to date. and we're barely started on this inquiry at the moment. children weren't included in the terms of reference at all in the beginning and actually a very new charity asked for them with molly kingsley, a campaigning group. they were the people who got put on that terms got children, put on that terms of reference in the first place. so what are you calling for now and is it taking you so long? >> well, so we were we worked together with us for them and together with us for them and together with us for them and together with the great work of molly and her colleagues. so to make that case, first of all, that children should be considered the inquiry considered in the inquiry because say, it's fairly because as you say, it's fairly extraordinary original extraordinary that the original terms thinking terms of reference, thinking about covid didn't about the impact of covid didn't even children all. about the impact of covid didn't everthat's children all. about the impact of covid didn't everthat's kind hildren all. about the impact of covid didn't everthat's kind ofdren all. about the impact of covid didn't everthat's kind of part all. about the impact of covid didn't everthat's kind of part of all. about the impact of covid didn't everthat's kind of part of what and that's kind of part of what the problem is. we are now part of inquiry and at every of the inquiry and at every single of the inquiry, single hearing of the inquiry, we have said that , you know, we have said that, you know, that there needs to be ways of
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listening to children and every time you know, baroness time and, you know, baroness hallett inquiry got a really tough she said hallett inquiry got a really tougit's she said hallett inquiry got a really tougit's really she said hallett inquiry got a really tougit's really important said hallett inquiry got a really tougit's really important to id that it's really important to her, really important to her personally to listen to children. unfortunately, personally to listen to chilbeen unfortunately, personally to listen to chilbeen uron tunately, personally to listen to chilbeen uron quitezly, personally to listen to chilbeen uron quite a', personally to listen to chilbeen uron quite a long it's been going on quite a long time now, you and we're time now, as you say, and we're still seeing the sort of still not seeing the sort of seriousness and the urgency really, obviously , you really, because obviously, you know, children's memories fade and of thing. more and that sort of thing. so more needs to done to really needs to be done to really listen children about their listen to children about their experiences that experiences and learn from that for okay for the future. okay >> specifically in this >> dan, specifically in this report, there have been no personal testimonies, have there, from children the chance to have their say about how lockdown has impacted them? how are you gathering that information and what kind of things do you expect the children will be saying ? children will be saying? >> well, so at the moment, the inquiry has got a campaign called every story matters, and it says they want to hear about everyone's experience is and then you read the small print and only if you're over and it says only if you're over 18. you know, we 18. and we think you know, we think that sends entirely the wrong message. your story only matters over 18. now matters if you're over 18. now
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now is more complicated to now it is more complicated to sort of about how to sort of think about how to listen to children. obviously you know, children you know, some children had a really we don't want really tough time. we don't want them that them to have to relive that without right kind of without the right kind of support. something which support. so it's something which does does need does you know, there does need to about how to make to be thought about how to make sure you hear from all sure you can hear from all children of all ages. but there's plenty of ways of doing it. we're saying that the it. so we're saying that the inquiry ought sort inquiry ought to work with sort of experts are really good of experts who are really good at different ways listening at different ways of listening to can sure they to children, can make sure they can the right can have the right kind of supports that need, but not supports that they need, but not just for the sake of it, just do it for the sake of it, but to actually make a commitment that what they're heanng hearing from children directly feeds investigations hearing from children directly feed the investigations hearing from children directly feed the irisestigations hearing from children directly feed the iris making 1s hearing from children directly feed the iris making and that the inquiry is making and the recommendations comes the recommendations as it comes up with it should be parents, dan, as children. dan, as much as children. >> ask my young >> if you ask my young teenagers, what think of teenagers, what do they think of lockdowns, will tell you lockdowns, they will tell you they they have they loved it. they didn't have to go to school. they had a great time. they watched too much telly, they ate too much rubbish it the rubbish at home. it was the parents. understand the parents. so we understand the impact on education. we impact on their education. we are that can their are the ones that can see their tech addiction. we are the ones that can see they all got a bit fat they all got a bit unfit
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fat and they all got a bit unfit dunng fat and they all got a bit unfit during because the during lockdowns because all the sports closed. sports facilities closed. we need parents in this need parents testimony in this inquiry, we certainly do. >> and, you know, hearing from parents is really is really important. know, there'll be important. you know, there'll be all different all kinds of different experiences parents experiences that that parents had. think like had. but i think also like children had a really wide range of experience . some had of experience. some had a brilliant a brilliant time, some had a really not very time. >> and actually the older teens was experience. yeah yeah. >> and actually the older teens waswell, experience. yeah yeah. >> and actually the older teens waswell, experierwe yeah yeah. >> and actually the older teens waswell, experierwe foundyeah. >> well, i'm glad we found something to agree on at the end. dan, thank you for your work. paskins, director of work. dan paskins, director of uk at the children. uk impact at save the children. it a bit late that it might be a bit late to that party for but i'm glad he's party for me, but i'm glad he's saying something now least. saying something now at least. >> yeah. and we must remember, of my misses of course, my misses the teacher. didn't have a of course, my misses the teacher.didn't have a break. she >> she didn't have a break. she worked lockdowns worked throughout lockdowns with some disadvantaged some of the most disadvantaged kids, whom never even kids, many of whom never even returned school. were so returned to school. they were so traumatised and behind by traumatised and left behind by lockdowns life. their lockdowns and their life. their life been wrecked life chances have been wrecked irreparably by lockdown. so i'm glad they're finally speaking out. that guy might out. bev i think that guy might need an ambulance after that, but there we go. i think it's fair to hold people to account. we need to hold them to account.
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>> there's too many questions still unanswered. right our papers panel will be here in just of all, just a moment. but first of all, i to have a listen to what i want to have a listen to what labour leader sir keir starmer has been saying. was speaking has been saying. he was speaking in the last few minutes in just the last few minutes about the migration in about the migration crisis in edinburgh. is. edinburgh. here he is. >> everybody's got to >> i think everybody's got to face to the that the face up to the fact that the government broken the asylum government has broken the asylum system don't to use system and i don't want to use barges, hotels, air bases because do not think that's because i do not think that's the way we fix the problem. now. it may be that we're going to inherit situation inherit a very bad situation just on the economy just as we are on the economy and on health. but fundamentally , you can't get through this by more barge as you get through this tackling the criminal this by tackling the criminal gangs are running this gangs that are running this terrible and by processing terrible trade and by processing the applications. and i think anybody watching this would be pretty shocked to learn that of all the people who arrive by small boats in the last year or so, the government has only processed of their processed 1% of their applications . and that's the applications. and that's the root problem. government failure i >> -- >> okay. that was keir starmer shortly ago talking about how to
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quash the immigration crisis. do we believe him? well, let's go to mike parry, ambusher. mike, let's go to you first. starmer to talking wearing the coat at least of i was listening to the shadow immigration secretary all over the weekend. >> i'm sorry, i can't remember her name because it was inconsequential. stephen kinnock yes, it wasn't. i'm sorry. it was , it was a lady politician was, it was a lady politician who was out yesterday. all she kept repeating was smash the criminal gangs. kept repeating was smash the criminal gangs . but there was criminal gangs. but there was never up question. as never a follow up question. as to, are you going to to, sorry, how are you going to smash the criminal gangs ? it's smash the criminal gangs? it's now world's biggest industry now the world's biggest industry . see people smuggling around the world, across the mediterranean, across the channel mediterranean, across the channel, from mexico to america. it's a massive international industry . it's a massive international industry. it's got it's a massive international industry . it's got massive industry. it's got massive resources . it's got armies of resources. it's got armies of people equipped with guns to enforce what they do. so just, you know, blithely mouthing, we're going to smash the gangs. it needs to be an international effort, cooperation between countries and lots of muscle. >> it's the easiest thing in the
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world on a day like today, isn't it? bushra fixed armour to come out and say the government aren't making this work whilst offering zero tangible, practical ? practical solutions? >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> i mean, that's classic hairstyle for you. i mean, he's not wrong in some of the things. i'm not going to say that he's entirely it is entirely wrong because it is about the processing systems. 1% is not enough. we should be processing there processing more of them. there is that. are is an issue with that. how are we going tackle that? get we going to tackle that? get more into the workforce more people into the workforce to make sure that these processing centres can happen? to make sure that these prisessing centres can happen? to make sure that these prises culmination can happen? to make sure that these prises culmination ca|things. n? it is a culmination of things. mike but it is. but it's not just a criminal gang. >> it is. >> it is. >> but whilst lots of different more and more people are coming, the going to grow. the queues are going to grow. >> can you imagine keir >> and can you imagine if keir starmer suddenly over there starmer suddenly went over there and faced up to some of these people smugglers and on people smugglers and said, oh look, keir starmer and look, my name's keir starmer and i in, i'm telling you, i'm i get in, i'm telling you, i'm going sort you out. i mean, going to sort you out. i mean, it's laughable. these are international gangsters who put people in boats at gunpoint, you know. >> but it is government failure . it's the tories failing on the
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asylum and what is mr starmer? and they've proven it for how many years that they've been here? what's not been able to tackle it? what's a storm offered as an alternative? >> very little. nothing >> very little. nothing >> one single idea. >> not one single idea. >> not one single idea. >> let's on. >> let's move on. >> stories today wanted >> stories today we wanted to do. do bushra about scout do. can we do bushra about scout leader outraging parents with leader is outraging parents with a woke style guide. what do we have at the moment? we've got beavers right ? beavers right? >> can't bear beaver. >> can't bear beaver. >> we have cubs. >> can't bear beaver. >> we have cubs . yep, we have >> we have cubs. yep, we have scouts and we have girl guides. stop it. martin daubney. but apparently we can't say girl guides anymore . guides anymore. >> no, no, we can't. we can't say girl guides. it's like people guides or they them guides. and it's becoming so ridiculous, i think. and it's not even happening today. i actually remember covering similar story about a couple of years and thought it was years ago and i thought it was ludicrous. i like, girl ludicrous. then i was like, girl guides existed for years. guides has existed for years. just it alone. just leave it alone. >> and it's fair to that the >> and it's fair to say that the actual boy scouts was banned actual so boy scouts was banned because scouts to anyone because scouts is open to anyone and guides is only girls. and girl guides is only girls. but some those girls can have
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but some of those girls can have male they can't. male privates. no, they can't. they can. that's that's actually their policy . and you can be their policy. and you can be a trans woman, trans, trans girl. you can be a trans girl and be a girl guide. but you're not allowed to be you're not allowed to be a boy. >> wasn't the boy scouts and the girl guides the last boy bastion of respectability in all our communities? you know what i mean? last place that mean? the very last place that the merchants could get to. the woke merchants could get to. because even young as they were girl guides and boy were girl guides and boy scouts were dip, dip . and, you know, dip, dip, dip. and, you know, the solid rock of our communities. yeah well, they introduced beavers because that was gender neutral, right? >> that's why they had the younger group for , for children younger group for, for children that were . so the old boys and that were. so the old boys and girls could do that together. yeah. >> i just don't see why they can't just have an independent one of their own and call it trans guide or something. >> well, it shouldn't be that many children are confused many children who are confused about gender. about their gender. there's a statue in poole harbour of baden—powell, the man who founded the scout movement out
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on brownsea island . on brownsea island. >> i mean, i'm surprised the statue hasn't melted with shock and indignation at what the scouts and the girl guides are being subject to in terms of political pressure and it should be the very last place where politics should get involved in terms of the detail. >> they're getting rid of. post man. of course, postal workers as humankind is now replacing mankind . as humankind is now replacing mankind. it's as humankind is now replacing mankind . it's the usual stuff. mankind. it's the usual stuff. it's usual guff , the usual. it's the usual guff, the usual. >> that's enough for today, i'm afraid, guys. i'm afraid keir starmer stole some of your debating time, apologies for debating time, so apologies for shafee and parry. shafee elsheikh and mike parry. up shafee elsheikh and mike parry. up next, it's the live desk with tom harwood and pip tomson. they're us what's they're here to tell us what's coming up on today's programme. hi, both. >> w- hi, both. >> talking about >> hello. we're talking about sir keir starmer's latest comments the so—called comments about the so—called migrant crisis in interestingly, he's refused to definitively rule out using raf bases and barges. >> indeed, and it's not just migrants, but smoking too . who migrants, but smoking too. who might we be seeing? little messages from the government encouraging us to quit popping
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up in packets , discussing it all up in packets, discussing it all on the live desk after this . on the live desk after this. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar power sponsors of weather on . gb news. hi there. weather on. gb news. hi there. >> it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast dry air, brighter and warmer weather is on the way for later week, but we've later this week, but we've started outbreaks of started monday with outbreaks of rain clearing northeastwards across country . still some across the country. still some persistent wet weather associated with a number of weather fronts that are affecting into affecting northern england into parts of wales for the rest of monday . some thundery showers monday. some thundery showers developing the main band of developing as the main band of rain clears east woods and there'll be some scattered showers across the uk showers elsewhere across the uk into the evening. but eventually really a dry theme emerges as we go into tuesday morning. still some cloud and some showers into the west , but we've got some the west, but we've got some clear spells emerging in the south and southeast . but south and southeast. but temperatures staying at around
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12 to 14 celsius. so we start off tuesday with still some showery rain affecting eastern scotland. north east england and scattered showers further west as well into the afternoon. the cloud will build and it will tend to lift into fairly widespread showers . but there'll widespread showers. but there'll also be some sunny spells in between and it will feel pleasant in the sunny spells, certainly compared with monday's weather 24 celsius, the high in the south, but warmer weather to come later this week as a ridge of high pressure starts to build , we're going to see a bright start to the day on wednesday once any early fog clears and then spells for many on then sunny spells for many on wednesday. and more especially into thursday, will lead to rising temperatures up to the mid to high 20s in places , the mid to high 20s in places, the temperatures rising on boxt
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of cigarettes . will it help of cigarettes. will it help people stub out the? >> and just how much does support do junior doctors have from the public? health bosses have warned that the nhs cannot take any more disruption , even take any more disruption, even amid yet more strikes . we're amid yet more strikes. we're live from a picket line . live from a picket line. >> and breaking news in the last hour now. they've netted neymar, the p56 hour now. they've netted neymar, the psg superstar becomes the latest player to head to saudi arabia . all that and much more arabia. all that and much more to come. first, though, let's kick off with the news roundup. here's tatiana . pip. here's tatiana. pip. >> thank you and good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom. the government's under pressure to explain why there were delays in removing migrants from the bibby after from the bibby stockholm after traces of legionella were discovered . dorset

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