gb news. >> it's 3 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. now there is a new smuggler's route into britain. apparently. i will tell you exactly where these people are coming from and where they are looking to enter britain in just a tick. but when it comes to the migrant crisis, apparently the message from the european you're european union is, well, you're on your supposedly the eu on your own, supposedly the eu will allowing us any kind will not be allowing us any kind of return agreement to france. what do you make of that? i think it just emphasises that we really up for our really have to stand up for our own , doesn't will own borders, doesn't it? i will also be discussing this as well own borders, doesn't it? i will awe're discussing this as well own borders, doesn't it? i will awe're goingssing this as well own borders, doesn't it? i will awe're going t01g this as well own borders, doesn't it? i will awe're going to be :his as well own borders, doesn't it? i will awe're going to be chatting, ll own borders, doesn't it? i will awe're going to be chatting, of . we're going to be chatting, of course, load the course, load about the afghanistan war. too years afghanistan war. it's too years on the taliban regaining on from the taliban regaining kabul on from the taliban regaining kabul. i will be asking, was it all actually worth it? and a little bit of good news as well

for the money in your pocket. yes, that's right. apparently wages are going up to their highest rate, at the highest rate for 22 years. do you feel ficher rate for 22 years. do you feel richer ? i know a lot of people richer? i know a lot of people don't. patrick christys gb news is . yes heck of a lot to go out is. yes heck of a lot to go out today, including a little story that i think embodies silly season, which is what we're in at the moment. apparently a panther has actually been found deadin panther has actually been found dead in rural britain living in the wild. so i'll be telling you exactly where that is very shortly. get your emails coming in. gb views. gbnews.com. the afghanistan war. two years, of course, since the taliban just rampaged back through that country . do you it was all country. do you think it was all worth it? i'll be chatting about that just a tick. but right that in just a tick. but right now it's your headlines as. >> good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm paul hawkins with the latest from the newsroom . the from the newsroom. the metropolitan police says six

former officers have been charged with sending offensive racist messages on whatsapp. the messages were shared within a closed group, but the force says the officers were not serving at any point during their participation in that group. the officers who retired between 2001 and 2015 will appear at westminster magistrates court next month . elsewhere this next month. elsewhere this afternoon , norfolk and suffolk afternoon, norfolk and suffolk police have admitted that personal information of 1230 people, including victims of crime and witnesses , was crime and witnesses, was included erroneously in freedom of information responses. both forces have attributed it to a technical issue. in a joint statement , they said the data statement, they said the data was hidden from anyone opening the files, which were issued between april 2021 and march 20th, 22. the prime minister has called wages rising at their fastest level for 22 years. light at the end of the tunnel. figures from the office for national statistics show wages rose by 7.8% in the last quarter. but inflation is

currently 7.9, bringing it down is the key, according to rishi sunak , it's inflation that's sunak, it's inflation that's making people feel poorer. >> it's eating into the savings in their bank account, making sure there's less money that they have at the end of the month. and that's why we need to bnng month. and that's why we need to bring that's how bring it down. and that's how we'll bring down interest we'll also bring down interest rates and ease the pressure on people's mortgages. we are people's mortgages. now we are making progress. i'm not complacent. more complacent. and we'll have more numbers this week, which hopefully continued hopefully show continued downward inflation. downward movement on inflation. but got to stick the but we've got to stick to the plan. that taking the plan. that means taking the right, decisions for right, responsible decisions for the economy, responsible the economy, being responsible with , with public with borrowing, with public sector and if we do that, sector pay. and if we do that, we will bring inflation down. >> the metropolitan police say three people are facing trial for allegedly breaching the official secrets act. five people were arrested in february as part of an investigation by the met's counter—terror command. three of the five who are believed to be bulgarian were later charged with possession of false identity documents and appeared in court last month. all five were released on bail until september

. donald trump says he will release a detailed report next monday on what he's called election fraud, referring to the 2020 us election, an he's been given a fourth indictment this time in georgia, accusing him of trying to overturn his 2020 election loss to joe biden . he's election loss to joe biden. he's called his fourth set of charges a witch hunt . the 13 felony a witch hunt. the 13 felony charges include falsely saying that election fraud had occurred and urging state officials to violate their oath of office by altering the election results. he's the front runner as the republican nominee in next year's presidential election. and denies any wrongdoing . the and denies any wrongdoing. the home office has exclusively told gb news there's been a huge increase in undocumented immigrants exploiting rules to work in the food delivery sector . it says restaurants and small businesses offering delivery services are being urged to carry out more detailed checks on their drivers to crack down on their drivers to crack down on scams. home office officials say working in the shadow economy is a major pull factor

for those embarking on often dangerous illegal journeys to the uk . british politicians will the uk. british politicians will be asked if they've had any issues accessing their bank accounts or had their accounts closed without notice as part of an inquiry by the uk's financial watchdog, the financial conduct authority announced plans to review banking practises involving so—called politically exposed people. the investigation comes after gb news presenter and former ukip leader nigel farage revealed that coutts closed his bank account over his political views . nhs hospitals in england will get a £250 million boost from the government to increase capacity as part of the urgent emergency care recovery plan. the money will create 900 beds to relieve pressures and help cut waiting times . 30 nhs cut waiting times. 30 nhs organisations will benefit from the investment . the majority of the investment. the majority of schemes will be completed by january to help deal with winter pressures. the royal college of nursing , however, has questioned nursing, however, has questioned who will staff the new beds,

given the recruitment problems in but health minister in nursing. but health minister will quince says they've taken that account . that into account. >> a key component >> staffing is a key component of this plan. the additional staffing numbers will come from that £1 billion budget, so the additional revenue funding which will flow nhs england will flow through nhs england through to those 30 trusts we have of course over the past year has seen an additional 6000 doctors and 15,000 nurses, but each of those trusts that have committed to build those 900 additional beds within their trusts have assured us and nhs england that they will be able to staff them with the funding supplied. >> today marks two years since the taliban took control of afghanistan following the withdrawal of western allies. people demonstrated outside parliament earlier today, both in solidarity with afghans and opposing the taliban rule. aid organisations have also urged government ministers not to abandon the afghans. veterans minister johnny mercer, who served in the country, acknowledged some people had been left behind after the

taliban takeover and still have not been brought safely to britain. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker by playing, by saying play gb news now back to . patrick >> so it's two years on from the withdrawal from afghanistan after several mostly saudi arabian chaps attacked america on 9/11, inspired by another saudi arabian man who we eventually found living in a house in pakistan. tony blair followed george bush into afghanistan . well, after 20 afghanistan. well, after 20 years, britain spent £28 billion for hundred and 54 troops died. 7500 were injured. the us spent more than $950 billion lost, 2300 soldiers, including 13 who were blown up in a suicide bomb attack during the final retreat attack during the final retreat at kabul airport. nearly 21,000 more were injured. the us and

nato had promised a total of $4 billion a year until 2024 to fund afghan stan's own forces , fund afghan stan's own forces, as the problem with that, of course, is that those forces have completely vanished. around 111,000 afghan civilians were injured or killed , 64,100 afghan injured or killed, 64,100 afghan soldiers died since 2001. 5.9 million afghans have been displaced somewhere in the region of around 70,000 have come to the uk in recent years. unfortunately many of those who help britain during the war didn't make it out and never will because foreign office staff helpfully left the full details. names addresses and contact information of anybody who worked with us and anybody who worked with us and anybody who submitted a cv . the taliban who submitted a cv. the taliban were left with around $7 billion worth of us military equipment. obviously not all of that was usable, but either way, it's not great, is it? it's worth noting that the united states also spent $131 billion on reconstruction projects during the war. so they basically

helped build the roads and infrastructure that the taliban used to retake the country and then the buildings they now use to run the country. women are now denied an education. they have to have a male guardian wherever they go . old foes wherever they go. old foes russia and china are believed to have some of the closest links to afghanistan. iran, which is an incredibly resource rich nation, just in case, just in case there was any doubt about how well our invasion , how well our invasion, occupation and then retreat from afghanistan has gone. reports today claim that taliban supporters gathered outside the old us embassy and chanted death to the europeans. death to the westerners. long live the islamic emirate of afghanistan . islamic emirate of afghanistan. death to the americans . lots of death to the americans. lots of death being dished out there . death being dished out there. talking of death, tony blair got his knighthood, didn't he? despite the hundreds of young soldiers dying for nothing, mrs. whitaker, whose 29 year old son, sergeant gareth thursby, was shot dead by an afghan policeman in 2012, said our sons may have been cannon fodder to him, but

they were our flesh and blood . they were our flesh and blood. as we look back at the afghan war now, we see the taliban in full radical islamist control. hundreds of thousands of lives lost , a supposed duty to now lost, a supposed duty to now take as many afghans as possible into britain as refugees. billions upon billions of pounds is wasted. what on earth was it . all for? yeah get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com. it hardly seems like two years ago, does it? that the white flag of the taliban was being hoisted above kabul taliban was being hoisted above kabul. but will have more on kabul. but i will have more on that a little bit later on in the show, including talking to an individual fought in an individual who fought in afghanistan and both legs afghanistan and lost both legs and the same and he's asking the same question was it question as me. really was it all what was it all all worth it? what was it all for? but our top story, and for? but to our top story, and the prime minister says that he's determined people he's determined to stop people coming uk illegally as a coming to the uk illegally as a matter of fairness the matter of fairness for the british people. rishi sunak was

speaking journalists for the speaking to journalists for the first since from first time since returning from his talks about his holiday. he talks about fighting inflation, the of fighting inflation, the cost of living crisis , bringing down living crisis, bringing down interest also said interest rates. but he also said that stopping the migrant boats was when asked was a top priority. when asked about the health scare on the bibby stockholm barge. >> look what's happened here is it's right that we go through all the checks and procedures to ensure well—being and health ensure the well—being and health of the people who are being housed on the barge. but taking a step back, what this about? a step back, what is this about? this fairness . it's this is about fairness. it's about the unfairness. in fact, of british taxpayers forking out 5 or £6 million a day to house illegal migrants in hotels up and down the country. with all the pressure that puts on local communities. we've got to find alternatives to that. that's what barge about. that's what the barge is about. that's why we're committed to it. but more fundamentally, we've just got coming here got to stop people coming here in place illegally. got to stop people coming here in passedace illegally. got to stop people coming here in passedace ill

know there's a long way to go on this, but i am determined to fix this, but i am determined to fix this problem. and we are making progress be progress and people can be reassured will keep at it. >> well well, that's that. then we go home. but we can all go home. but meanwhile, reports meanwhile, there are reports that blocking the uk that the eu is blocking the uk from returning illegal migrants to the european mainland. we will a lot will be talking quite a lot about do the eu actually about that. do the eu actually have help us out a bit have a duty to help us out a bit here? have been helping them here? have we been helping them out? it just inform us that out? does it just inform us that we be actually looking we should be actually looking after own borders singularly after our own borders singularly on we could of course, on our own? we could of course, give a few presents, give them a few presents, couldn't we? just return couldn't we? i.e. just return them loads more on them anyway. but loads more on this. another as this. and another bombshell as well and security well with our home and security edhon well with our home and security editor, white. mark, editor, mark white. mark, thank you on top of you very, very much. on top of all of that, we have new smuggling routes britain, smuggling routes into britain, don't particular? don't we, one in particular? >> yeah. mean, i think what >> yeah. i mean, i think what this shows is that the illegal people always people smugglers are always looking to exploit new potential avenues into to the uk and we are getting some indications now that another route has opened up from northern spain, from the

port of santander , a lorry route port of santander, a lorry route for albanians in particular who are being encouraged to use that particular route. it's being advertised on tiktok and other social media at about £14,000 a ticket, really to get into the back of a lorry . but with the back of a lorry. but with the promise that the likelihood of being stopped and searched when that ferry gets to either portsmouth or poole is probably a lot less than it is. if you go through the traditional routes, either going across the channel, of course you go across the channel of course you go across the channel, you're straight into the hands of authorities. if you go in the backs of lorries through the port of calais and others in that area, dunkirk , others in that area, dunkirk, there's lots of checks there . so there's lots of checks there. so you could be found. but if you're an albanian in particular, as many albanians , particular, as many albanians, according to officials, are trying to get to the uk

undetected because they don't want to enter the asylum system. patrick they want to get into in many cases either illegally working in the construction industry or wherever else it might be or , or they want to might be or, or they want to work for criminal gangs doing cannabis farms and earning actually a lot more money. >> and we had a lot of fanfare about our returns agreement with albania, the amount of work that we're doing with albania to stop the amount of people coming from that country on small boats into britain. but it looks as though that might have been overhype it. >> well, certainly possibly a bit premature in terms of the claims from the government that they really have cut down on the number of albanians coming across because we're not yet at the end of the year , 12,000 the end of the year, 12,000 crossed during 2022. now, this

year so far, yes , we're very year so far, yes, we're very significantly down 400, but that was to the end of july. remember last year it was really between july and september that very significant numbers of albanians crossed in small boats. so let's see actually how many come across in small boats. it could be right. they might not be coming across in small boats , coming across in small boats, but that doesn't mean that albanians aren't coming across and into the country. and it's not just santander, you know , not just santander, you know, there's other routes very ports further down the coast in france. so marlow, khan , others france. so marlow, khan, others like that, that are being exploited by these criminal traffickers. and what's actually happening as well is that they are paying more money to hire the likes of proper fishing boats or tour boats or speedboats . it's and they're speedboats. it's and they're coming in that way, too. so they're forever trying to probe

they're forever trying to probe the borders and as far as the criminal gangs are concerned, they will pay many of the albanians who clearly from poorer parts of northern albania in particular, are coming across and paying £14,000. they'll pay for their journey across. but then they're in sort of debt bond to these criminal gangs to work in the cannabis farms until they pay off that money. >> yeah, mark, look, thank you very, very much. mark white there at home. security editor. we'll be hearing rather a lot from mark throughout the course of show. he's done an of this show. he's done an investigation people investigation into people being delivery well. and delivery drivers as well. and the migrant trade there. the illegal migrant trade there. the time get the next time you get a takeaway, it might be interesting see exactly who interesting to see exactly who delivers that whether not delivers that and whether or not they anything the they look anything like the picture particular app. they look anything like the pictii'm particular app. they look anything like the pictii'm joined particular app. they look anything like the pictii'm joined nowicular app. they look anything like the pictii'm joined now icuijeremy but i'm joined now by jeremy hutton, a researcher at hutton, who is a researcher at migration watch uk. jeremy, thank you very, very so thank you very, very much. so concerning this new concerning stuff about this new route into places like portsmouth, obviously that's going to be one to watch out for, because of the for, not least because of the nationality the people coming nationality of the people coming there looking work

there, albanian looking to work with gangs and with those criminal gangs and criminal but our criminal organisations. but our friends european union criminal organisations. but our frien(decided european union criminal organisations. but our frien(decided they're an union criminal organisations. but our frien(decided they're notlnion criminal organisations. but our frien(decided they're not going have decided they're not going to help with returns. to help us out with returns. agreements as well, haven't they? say, they? some people will say, look, should they ? you know, look, why should they? you know, we were in there. then we decided why would they decided to leave. why would they cooperate now at all? cooperate with us now at all? but other people would say, well, this is a europe wide issue and we should work as a continent in order to tackle it i >> -- >> yes, absolutely. >> yes, absolutely. >> it seems to me that the european union is it's just not looking at the wider picture. as you say, it is a europe wide crisis of people trying to get into europe for irregular routes and we have to work together with the europeans to solve this. if you solve, say, the mediterranean migrant crisis, you also solve the english channel migrant crisis . they channel migrant crisis. they seem to be willing to make deals with countries like turkey and tunisia to try and stop things at that end. but they're very unwilling to actually reduce the incentive for people to come. so i think they need to really just look at what's on and look at what's going on and

actually to their member actually listen to their member states well. if you states as well. i mean, if you look at the governments of europe, it's like they're falling over one by one, the old liberal centrist governments are being more right being replaced by a more right wing governments who are willing to harder measures to take a lot harder measures and eventually you imagine the eu itself catch with eu itself will catch up with that and will then be able to start implementing effective policies . policies. >> yeah, i spoke to an individual the other day on one of my shows. he said to me that if europe does indeed go right wing , really, if it does end up wing, really, if it does end up falling to people believe in falling to people who believe in border control, then bizarrely, a case for rejoining the european union might be around tighter border control as opposed to, of course , one of opposed to, of course, one of the reasons why left. the reasons why we left. apparently french president emmanuel getting emmanuel macron, who is getting a at the moment, a lot of stick at the moment, especially latest especially after the latest migrant the channel, migrant deaths in the channel, just us to renegotiate late just told us to renegotiate late with the european union palming it off there. but then ursula von der leyen and co basically said that they had no plans to draw up a returns agreement. and again, i suppose , look, why

again, i suppose, look, why would they i imagine they'll be quite happy to wave people off really. but do you think that they are maybe letting politics get in the way of actual practical , as it practical solutions, as it certainly seems that way. >> i mean, it's all very petty. i think really what they want is they want to see the rwanda plan for instance, succeed . they want for instance, succeed. they want britain to take all the flak for if it doesn't, and then if it does work, they'll probably set up route with other up their own route with other countries. and then that's when we'll start making some we'll actually start making some progress. they start progress. but until they start actually engaging actually actively engaging and trying the problem and trying to solve the problem and reduce the inflows rather than just putting up, you know, walls , then nothing's going to really happen. no indeed. >> and are you concerned about the potential number of albanians coming through that new irregular routes that we've seen there into portsmouth via spain in the backs of lorries? the thing that stood out for me , jeremy, was £14,000 a head minimum. now i get from what mark white was saying, which is

that a lot of the people smuggling gangs might be paying for some of these people when they're their and they they're in their debt and they work but we already know work their. but we already know the money that a lot the amounts of money that a lot of people just across of people are paying just across the channel, for example. and i don't know you, but don't know about you, but i think most people in britain are 14 grand in their savings. do they know ? they know? >> and i don't think many of these have £14,000. these migrants have £14,000. there'll the very top these migrants have £14,000. ther are the very top these migrants have £14,000. ther are actual the very top these migrants have £14,000. therare actual actually very top these migrants have £14,000. therare actual actually tryingop who are actual actually trying to get in for quite dangerous reasons, i imagine, in terms of the criminal underworld. but most them, i think, are just most of them, i think, are just trying to get in so that they can work in black market, can work in the black market, maybe cannabis farms, that can work in the black market, may of cannabis farms, that can work in the black market, may of thing. nabis farms, that can work in the black market, may of thing. and; farms, that can work in the black market, may of thing. and essentiallyt sort of thing. and essentially they'll be a form of indentured servitude to these traffickers until debt. until they pay off their debt. and then eventually maybe they'll they'll be free. but i don't think it really works out that way. there isn't i don't think there's really a light at the end of the tunnel once you're these criminal you're in with these criminal gangs, think you're probably you're in with these criminal gathere think you're probably you're in with these criminal gathere fornk you're probably you're in with these criminal gathere for life.)u're probably in there for life. >> yeah, no, exactly. no doubt. will see them all gloating about the amount of money they're the amount of money that they're taking tock at some

the amount of money that they're takingsoon tock at some the amount of money that they're takingsoon from:ock at some the amount of money that they're takingsoon from all at some the amount of money that they're takingsoon from all of some the amount of money that they're takingsoon from all of the ne the amount of money that they're takingsoon from all of the drugs point soon from all of the drugs that be washing britain's that will be washing britain's streets thank very streets with. but thank you very much, there from much, jeremy hudson there from migrationwatch, on migrationwatch, uk. look more on this gbnews.com. it's the this story gbnews.com. it's the fastest growing news fastest growing national news website it's got website in the country. it's got all analysis, big all the big analysis, big opinion and course, the opinion and of course, all the very latest breaking news. and when break, big news, when news does break, big news, it at around it tends to happen at around this time, the time during this show. sure that you do show. so make sure that you do stay but a little bit of stay tuned. but a little bit of good news, wages are rising at the fastest pace records the fastest pace since records began. that of course, good began. that is, of course, good news people who frankly began. that is, of course, good news theiraople who frankly began. that is, of course, good news theiraopltisvho frankly began. that is, of course, good news theiraopltis goinginkly began. that is, of course, good news theiraopltis going upj began. that is, of course, good news theiraopltis going up. but think their pay is going up. but what it for inflation? what does it mean for inflation? what mean for interest what does it mean for interest rates? and exactly two years after the taliban took over in afghanistan , i will ask afghanistan, i will ask a british veteran who was badly injured over there what was the point of our two decades in that country ? patrick christys on gb country? patrick christys on gb news, britain's news

britain's news. channel >> welcome back. well in just a few minutes time, i will bring you our exclusive report on undocumented immigrants working for food delivery companies. i very much doubt that that will stop you ordering things from those delivery but those delivery companies. but it's know anyway, isn't it's nice to know anyway, isn't it? after violence on it? and after the violence on oxford last week, oxford street last week, a senior police officer has told parents to get a grip of unruly teenagers who are following social media crazes. not before time. i don't know what has happenedin time. i don't know what has happened in this but it happened in this country, but it does that people are does appear that people are scared their own kids. but scared of their own kids. but more importantly, today is the second anniversary of the taliban kabul as the

taliban taking over kabul as the british army's time in afghanistan to a rather afghanistan came to a rather chaotic end, 457 british troops were killed, 7500 were injured following that invasion , which, following that invasion, which, of course, started in 2001. but now, with the country in the iron grip of the taliban once more and of course, women's rights seriously curtailed, one wonders, was it all worth it? i'm joined now by andy allen, who served in the british army in afghanistan when he sadly had to have both his legs amputated above knee when he hurt above the knee when he was hurt by improvised by an improvised explosive device in 2008? look thank you very much for coming on and for giving us your views on this topic . was it all worth it? topic. was it all worth it? >> i think fundamentally, patrick, we have to go back first, and i can only give you my perspective of the operation at hand in afghanistan. >> and as i understood that as a private soldier on the ground, i'm not involved in the politics and the decision to go into afghanistan. we were there to execute the mission at hand and that was, for me, the first mission was to disrupt and

dismantle the safe haven that al—qaeda had within afghanistan in which they operate and attack the west and other places. and then secondly, which was intertwined with that first operational mission objective for me was about giving the afghan people the building blocks in order to build a better country. i suppose if you take it in that context , have we take it in that context, have we achieved the mission goal that we set out to deliver ? i think we set out to deliver? i think fundamentally, as we look on the afghanistan now and the news reports coming out, we didn't. and we failed the afghan people i >> -- >> well, i don't think you personally felt the afghan people, obviously. i mean, you absolutely gave pretty much everything that you possibly had. and it's people like you who are just wonder whether or not we've actually let down more. potential than some of more. so potential than some of the people afghanistan . andy, the people in afghanistan. andy, i you sacrificed a heck of i mean you sacrificed a heck of a lot for that . how do you feel a lot for that. how do you feel personally as to whether or not whether or not, frankly, that was worth it ? was worth it? >> so firstly , if you don't >> so firstly, if you don't mind, patrick, i'd like to tease

out that point that you make about being felt to be let down. >> and that's why it's absolutely imperative that government do all that they can to deliver the best possible support. and i would like to take this opportunity to highlight an issue, you know, from a northern ireland perspective . we have the office perspective. we have the office for affairs who have for veterans affairs who have delivered is delivered up fortitude, which is regarding sure that there regarding making sure that there are no homeless veterans on the street. in northern street. but here in northern ireland, fortitude, despite street. but here in northern irebeing fortitude, despite street. but here in northern irebeing highlighted, despite street. but here in northern irebeing highlighted to espite street. but here in northern irebeing highlighted to them, is it being highlighted to them, is not operation in the same not in operation in the same manner is. the uk manner that it is. and the uk government highlight, manner that it is. and the uk government highlight , for government highlight, for example, is their example, that it is their ambition to make the united kingdom best place which ambition to make the united ki|be om best place which ambition to make the united ki|be an best place which ambition to make the united ki|be a veteran.st place which ambition to make the united ki|be a veteran. but ace which ambition to make the united ki|be a veteran. but for which ambition to make the united ki|be a veteran. but for me,/hich ambition to make the united ki|be a veteran. but for me, weh to be a veteran. but for me, we can't have a disjointed level support and you know, friends that i to that i serve that i speak to that i serve with that all veterans with say that all veterans should same levels of should expect the same levels of support the board no support across the board no matter where in the united kingdom they're living living now 100. >> think it's an absolute >> i think it's an absolute disgrace. it's a national scandal that have any scandal that we have any homeless veterans and it is something that very, very something that is very, very close heart. and so when close to my heart. and so when you back from

obviously hopefully it will just work to get him back. i think the connection is a little bit dodgy there. i'll just feel for a little bit and hopefully we can gandy back. but when you look at the amount of money that was spent somewhere in the region of £30 the germans, £30 billion, the germans, i think, 10 billion. think, spent about 10 billion. i mean, united states of mean, the united states of america. absolutely america. and absolutely i watering money and watering amount of money and then of then you've got the loss of life, but then you've got the knock on effects, haven't you, of 6 million afghans in knock on effects, haven't you, ofcountry 6 million afghans in knock on effects, haven't you, ofcountry thatnillion afghans in knock on effects, haven't you, ofcountry that at.ion afghans in knock on effects, haven't you, ofcountry that at the afghans in knock on effects, haven't you, ofcountry that at the timeins in knock on effects, haven't you, ofcountry that at the time that] a country that at the time that we invaded had a population of around 45 million did around 45 million people. did placed now having placed the world. now having to do clean operation in the do a clean up operation in the wake happened there, the wake of what happened there, the taliban back in full control with better country, with arguably a better country, with arguably a better country, with infrastructure, with better infrastructure, almost than with better infrastructure, alwast than with better infrastructure, alwast we than with better infrastructure, alwast we found than with better infrastructure, alwast we found it. than with better infrastructure, alwast we found it. i than with better infrastructure, alwast we found it. i just| it was when we found it. i just wonder whether not indeed, of wonder whether or not indeed, of course, worth it in course, it was all worth it in that regard. i think andy is back. andy, thank you very much.

sorry lost you there for sorry we lost you there for a second. so how were you treated when i think when you got back? i think fundamentally describe it, fundamentally to describe it, the been better. >> and i think the support services were there whilst they kicked in. in my own regiment and family and we're doing and my family and we're doing all they can to support me. there was a great degree of the unknown to the level of unknown as to the level of support that needed to be delivered. for example, with me and i woke up in a hospital bed in selly oak, completely blinded , and the last thing i remembered was a huge blast going off suddenly waking up going off and suddenly waking up in hospital couldn't see in the hospital bed couldn't see a thing at all. and had no legs and suddenly, you know, i felt, you know , is my life over ? um, you know, is my life over? um, and what will i do? so the support i must say that i received was, was good, but it could have been better. and i'm glad to say that it has improved over the years. there is much, much more to be done. and that's why i believe it is important that offices such the va, the that offices such as the va, the office for veterans affairs, are crucial , that we are able to

crucial, that we are able to deliver the level of support that our service personnel, that all our service personnel, no where they serve, no matter where they serve, should . should expect. >> i absolutely feel quite overwhelmed , actually, that this overwhelmed, actually, that this nafion overwhelmed, actually, that this nation and this group of nations that we call home manages to produce people as brave and strong as you to go and do things that people like me get to sit here and talk about. but frankly, would not have the bottle to go and do so. andy, i've just got to ask 1—1 quick one, if that's all right. while i've got you. if you could, would you fight for britain again ? again? >> absolutely. no hesitation whatsoever. i'm proud of my service . i'm proud of what i've service. i'm proud of what i've done and what i tried to achieve in afghanistan. and i became quite friendly with an interpreter, a gentleman called waheed in afghanistan. and through that prism that i look at this and he and i often sat on many occasions discussing what his vision was for a better afghanistan . and i think looking afghanistan. and i think looking at that in that context of what we wanted to deliver and what he

wanted to see afghanistan become was achieved . was not achieved. >> look, andy, thank you very much thank you much for your time and thank you very for everything, very much for everything, frankly, good luck to i frankly, and good luck to you. i do talk to you again do hope to talk to you again very it's allan very soon. it's andy allan there. he served in the british army afghanistan, course, army in afghanistan, of course, sadly above the sadly lost both legs above the knee he was hurt by an ied knee when he was hurt by an ied in 2008. loads more still to come now 4:00. we've come between now and 4:00. we've got an exclusive report on illegal immigrants who are working food delivery working as food delivery drivers as he's spotted immigration officers, think. officers, we think. >> he's tried to flee. it >> and he's tried to flee. it looks early indications are looks the early indications are that working in breach of that he's working in breach of his entry conditions for the uk. >> does appear we might be >> it does appear we might be catching some hanging fruit catching some low hanging fruit there. your headlines there. but now as your headlines with hawkins . it's 332. with paul hawkins. it's 332. >> i'm paul hawkins with the latest from the gb newsroom . the latest from the gb newsroom. the metropolitan police says six former officers have been charged with sending offensive racist messages on whatsapp. the force says the officers were not serving at any point during their participate in that group.

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gold and silver investment. let's get a quick snapshot then of today's markets. >> the pound will buy you . >> the pound will buy you. $1.2726 and ,1.1635. the price of gold is £1,495.38 per ounce. and the ftse 100 at 7411 points. director bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . gold and silver investment. >> looks like things are heating up both boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello much of the uk are enjoying some pretty fine weather this week. lots of sunshine around. yes, there will be a few showers here and there, but places will be and but most places will be dry and feeling in that sunshine as feeling warm in that sunshine as well. look at the pressure well. we look at the pressure pattern, then you can see high pressure really continuing to build that's build in from the west. that's what's bringing increasingly fine, weather fine, dry and sunny weather across country. still few

across the country. still a few showers the north—east showers towards the north—east closer low closer to that area of low pressure, though. here's a picture. then through tuesday evening overnight, evening and overnight, then as you a of places you can see, a lot of places will be dry overnight. still a few showers across parts of scotland, northeast england. few showers across parts of scotla tending heast england. few showers across parts of scotla tending torst england. few showers across parts of scotla tending torst en awayi. few showers across parts of scotla tending torst en away as we these tending to fade away as we head the night. and head through the night. and actually much england, actually for much of england, wales, ireland, will wales, northern ireland, we will see skies see largely clear skies developing overnight that developing overnight and that will one or 2 mist will lead to one or 1 or 2 mist and fog patches and also turning fairly in some fairly chilly as well in some rural but in towns and rural spots. but in towns and cities, temperatures holding up 10 degrees. is your 10 to 13 degrees. is your overnight lows. so under those clear pretty clear skies, we have a pretty fine start much of the fine start for much of the country. thing on country. first thing on wednesday morning. a lot of sunshine, particularly across england, wales, northern ireland, cloud, ireland, more cloud, though, continuing to affect parts of scotland 2 scotland with again, 1 or 2 showers actually for much of showers and actually for much of the most will be the day, most places will be dry. like said, still the risk dry. like i said, still the risk of an isolated across of an isolated shower across england still further england and wales, still further showers of showers affecting parts of scotland, but scotland, northeast england. but most be fine and most places will be dry fine and warm well. 26 degrees there warm as well. 26 degrees there for london, low 20s scotland for london, low 20s for scotland and northern ireland. we look ahead thursday. again, ahead into thursday. then again, that looks set that largely dry theme looks set to clear skies for

to continue with clear skies for many areas, some sunshine particularly many areas, some sunshine partthearly many areas, some sunshine partthe north—west a bit more and the north—west a bit more cloud east coast, cloud towards the east coast, but in that sunshine cloud towards the east coast, but warm,�*|at sunshine cloud towards the east coast, but warm, warmer hine cloud towards the east coast, but warm, warmer still as we feeling warm, warmer still as we head into friday. but with that, an increasing risk showers an increasing risk of showers and thunderstorms like and thunderstorms looks like things heating up by next boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> all right. well, gb news has been given exclusive access as immigration officers launched a major crackdown on food delivery companies who've been employed . companies who've been employed. illegal immigrants. home office officials say that working in the shadow economy is a major pull factor for those embarking on often dangerous illegal journeys to the uk . our home journeys to the uk. our home security editor, mark white, was out with enforcement officers as they carried out raids right across the country in towns and cities across the uk. >> these delivery drivers are everywhere here. we all use them, but increasingly, the

person who turns up at your door is breaking the law. we can reveal a massive surge in the number of illegal immigrants working in the delivery sector . working in the delivery sector. we're with immigration enforcement officers in bright in city centre, a joint operation with sussex police as they target the delivery drivers, they suspect of working illegally . police have just illegally. police have just stopped this rider on the seafront as they carry out checks. seafront as they carry out checks . immigration enforcement checks. immigration enforcement teams hang back out of sight so as not to alert other drivers that they're around this riders. documents checked out and he was cleared to go just round the corner to other immigration officers have stopped an indonesian delivery driver, but he is currently under arrest. >> so first of all, i need to take a photograph of him, checks on him, indicate he is working here illegally and likely faces deportation . deportation. >> just four years ago,

immigration enforcement were only really encountering a handful of illegal immigrants working in the gig economy. now it's vast. it is one of the key target areas for these officers. this operation is part of a major crack down, specifically targeting those exploiting the gig economy where legitimate self—employed delivery drivers often rent out their accounts to undock. often rent out their accounts to undock . documented workers . undock. documented workers. >> they're undercutting legitimate employers and they're undercutting legitimate employees , both who are trying employees, both who are trying to undertake things playing by the rules. it really is it really is a major issue . really is a major issue. >> immigration key comes to the doom >> immigration key comes to the door, please. >> in east london. other officers are targeting the homes officers are targeting the homes of undocumented drivers . of undocumented drivers. >> you don't see them coming in and out. did i have a motorbike? the suspect here has, it seems , the suspect here has, it seems, moved on to another address . moved on to another address. >> not uncommon given the transitory nature of undocumented immigration. it's

back in brighton. this brazilian rider has just been arrested after trying to escape by going the wrong way up a one way street. but he spotted immigration officers. >> we think , and he's tried to >> we think, and he's tried to flee it looks the early indications are that he's working in breach of his entry conditions to the uk. >> there are those who feel these riders are doing little harm and these raids are a distraction from the trauma and tragedy unfolding all too often in the mediterranean and in the engush in the mediterranean and in the english channel. this past weekend . but authorities say weekend. but authorities say illegal working and illegal journeys are absolutely linked to illegal working is a major pull factor for illegal migration into the uk . migration into the uk. >> if you know you're coming to the uk with a job, you're more likely to travel here illegally and also undertake potentially unsafe journeys. >> the home office say many delivery companies journeys are increasingly cooperating in the efforts to stop illegal exploiting their services , but

exploiting their services, but they still need to do far more to check those delivering food and goods in their name are who they say they are. mark white gb news brighton . news brighton. >> one thing i will say about thatis >> one thing i will say about that is when it gets to 3:00 in the morning and i want a kebab, i don't really think i care who delivers it, but there we go. uk wages by 7.8% between april wages grew by 7.8% between april and marking a record and june, marking a record growth rate since 2011. that's according to new figures from the office for national statistics. more statistics. let's get much more on this. our economics and business editor liam halligan with money . liam, this with on the money. liam, this time we really are rich, aren't we? >> well, this is mixed news. it is good news, of course, that average wages are up , is good news, of course, that average wages are up, as you is good news, of course, that average wages are up , as you say average wages are up, as you say , 8.2. and that's higher than the rate of inflation, which means for the first time in a long time, average wages are above the rate of growth of prices, which means average

living standards are going up a smidge. does this mean the cost of living crisis is over? no, it doesn't. but it means at least there's a of light. let's have a look at some of the numbers here. these numbers came out this . wages up 8.2% this morning. wages up 8.2% between april and june. so that's compared to the april, may, june quarter, three months back in 2022. inflation there in june, 7.9. so wages are going up faster than prices . that means faster than prices. that means there's a real wage increase . there's a real wage increase. the first one since october 2021, an unemployment , 2021, an unemployment, meanwhile, went up from 4 to 4.2. that's quite a chunky increase, actually in just one quarter, but it's still historically pretty low . historically pretty low. >> yeah, it sounds to me a bit about that. then really. so the unemployment figures are up quite significantly , quite significantly. >> but back in the day, unemployment was ten, 12. in the late 80s, early 90s, 4.2% is still low by historic british standards. and indeed by international standards. today

okay. having said that, there is a big increase in the number of people who are what we call economically inactive. 3 or 4 million people are being paid benefits to be economically inactive for various reasons . inactive for various reasons. some, of course, it's completely legitimate . they're on legitimate. they're on disability benefit, other mobility benefits. that's the mark of a civilised society to look after those vulnerable people. a lot of people have been signed off long term sick in the wake of the pandemic , of in the wake of the pandemic, of course. so this is partly good news. but of course, patrick, if you're working in the gig economy, if you're not working in the public sector where you've got powerful unions, a lot of people will look at that 8.2% increase in wages 8.2% average increase in wages and think my wages haven't gone up 8.2, my wages have been stuck for 3 or 4 years. and meanwhile inflation has gone up and i've had to bear that reduction in my cost of living . so these average cost of living. so these average numbers are good, but they are just average. and for most just an average. and for most people average irrelevant people the average is irrelevant to them because they live either side of the average. of course.

>> so was rishi sunak right a >> so was rishi sunak right on a couple there not to couple of counts there not to cave to some of the cave in to some of the ridiculous wage demands by certain the public certain elements of the public sector he's right that sector and that he's right that he handling economy. the he is handling the economy. the bank at the is bank of england at the moment is doing right us, even though doing right by us, even though the done its to the government done its best to contain these public sector wage demands. >> of course there are some still outstanding . the bma, for still outstanding. the bma, for instance, the doctors union, they're for 20, they're still looking for 20, 25, 30, 35. the government's offered them around 8 or 10, 10. but the bank of england, the monetary policy committee , the monetary policy committee, the nine economists who decide where interest rates are going to go, and their next decision, by the way, on september the 26th. way, is on september the 26th. they will still look at these numbers and say, crikey, 8.2. that's still big. it's now ahead of inflation. that means there's something of a wage price spiral going on. what does that mean ? going on. what does that mean? wages for firms, costs go wages go up for firms, costs go up because wages go up. firms pnces up because wages go up. firms prices then go up to consumers. so consumers suffering higher prices. then demand higher wages. we've had a bit of a wage

price i still think, price spiral. i still think, though, the bank england though, that the bank of england should where should keep interest rates where they i've been saying that they are. i've been saying that for a long time. they're at 5.25. we've had 14 rises in a row. i think we should wait for that feed through into the that to feed through into the economy see happens. economy and see what happens. but people on the but there are people on the monetary committee still monetary policy committee still a of the nine, a majority of the nine, including the governor andrew bailey, the various deputy bailey, and the various deputy governors, they want interest rates to go up more. they think it we haven't it hasn't. we haven't done enough yet. i disagree with that, but i'm not on the mpc. so i think those on the bank of england's monetary policy committee who do want interest rates to go up, they will look at last growth numbers, at last week's growth numbers, which . we're not at last week's growth numbers, which .we're not in which weren't bad. we're not in recession. they'll say the economy can take pain. economy can take more pain. we're going carry on raising we're going to carry on raising interest squeeze interest rates to squeeze inflation out of the system, not least because these wage least because these this wage growth high. as we growth is pretty high. as we say, the highest in nominal terms since 2001. and the first increase in real wages above inflation since november 2021. so good news if you've got yourself a decent pay rise,

particularly if it's ahead of inflation, but an awful lot of gb news viewers and listeners that won't apply to them and this will be seen as bad news because they will be exposed to higher interest rates on mortgages or any other personal loan. >> yeah, exactly. and think >> yeah, exactly. and i think that that you used there, that phrase that you used there, the economy take more pain. the economy can take more pain. i a lot of people be the economy can take more pain. i at lot of people be the economy can take more pain. i at home people be the economy can take more pain. i at home nowple be the economy can take more pain. i at home now thinking,e stuck at home now thinking, well, can it really? can i berlin, thank you very, very much. great stuff. liam halligan our business our economics and business editor with on money. right. editor with on the money. right. okay. days after video on okay. six days after a video on social people to go okay. six days after a video on sociand people to go okay. six days after a video on sociand loot people to go okay. six days after a video on sociand loot shops people to go okay. six days after a video on sociand loot shops ineople to go okay. six days after a video on sociand loot shops in central go out and loot shops in central london, a senior police officer has parents they to has told parents they need to get what their kids get a grip of what their kids are doing. about time patrick are doing. about time to patrick christys on gb britain's christys on gb news britain's news

keeping you company right through until 7:00 this evening. gb news the people's . channel 4:00. >> i will discuss a new route that's being used by people traffickers to get migrants illegally into the uk. and later on i will hold a debate on whether we should have a referendum on the government's commitment for net zero by 2050. apparently some red wall mps are saying that we should. but more now on this fallout from social media inspired violence that appears to be sweeping right across the country. a senior police officer has told parents to get a grip of their children. nine people were arrested last wednesday. i mean, have a look at video and just imagine at that video and just imagine only them getting only nine of them getting arrested. we go. arrested. but there we go. tiktok called on people to loot shops in central london, but donna jones is the new chair of

the association of police and crime commissioners says parents must their about must speak to their kids about the of social media. the dangers of social media. jones revealed that over the weekend, children in southampton took following took paracetamol following a tiktok challenge to see who can get hospitalised stay in get hospitalised and stay in their the longest. get hospitalised and stay in theirthe longest. i've get hospitalised and stay in their the longest. i've just bonkers, isn't it? all of this it is just bonkers. joining me now is the sussex police and crime commissioner, katie osborne. katie, thank you very, very . i mean, parents need very much. i mean, parents need to just look after their kids. it's not revolutionary stuff, isn't it ? they've got do more i >> -- >> well, i totally agree . and, >> well, i totally agree. and, you know, donna is not alone in calling for this . calling for this. >> i said pretty much similar a few weeks ago when we had a spate of young people in sussex who were in a gang and just sort of running wild and amok amongst the shops . whether that had been the shops. whether that had been sparked by social media platform, i don't know. but clearly, you know, they were they were just feeling very emboldened . and i think for me , emboldened. and i think for me, in thinking about this, we can't underestimate the impact of that

lockdown has had on on both mental health and also the social development of our young people . after all, they spent people. after all, they spent about 18 months being educated onune about 18 months being educated online and getting their entertainment, their. but we are very much the age of the likes generation on and this craving for attention that we're seeing , i think is now playing out across the social media channels. >> do the parents care often when your officers go and arrest their kids and then send them back and say they've just looted a boots ? a boots? >> well, interestingly, we did some work on this several years ago in in a pilot in surrey and off the back of it, we rolled out a programme called reboot, working with young people. what we found was that by the time the parents got to find out about their child getting on the wrong side of the law was when that child was put in front of the magistrates court and that was often the first occasion on when the parents would know . and when the parents would know. and so we do now is if they so what we do now is if they

start to come to the attention of police for the wrong reasons, they will be given a police officer will go and knock on the door of that parent or guardian's home and deliver a letter to them to say that their child is coming to the attention of the police for the wrong reasons. and in about 80% of the cases we found, that is enough to change the behaviour because even the most challenged parents shall we say, actually want to do the right thing by their kids, not all, but the majority do . so we found that actually do. so we found that actually locally has been quite helpful . locally has been quite helpful. >> i mean, i can remember a while back now when there appeared to be some kind of truancy epidemic from school and there was a big hoo ha about, well, we'll prosecute the parents and see if that as parents and see if that acts as some kind deterrent. i mean, parents and see if that acts as sothere nd deterrent. i mean, parents and see if that acts as sothere any deterrent. i mean, parents and see if that acts as sothere any scoperrent. i mean, parents and see if that acts as sothere any scope tofil. i mean, parents and see if that acts as sothere any scope for thatnean, parents and see if that acts as sothere any scope for that kind. is there any scope for that kind of stuff here? like if your 12 year old keeps looting the spa down the end of the road, you can the parents. can prosecute the parents. >> i think for it's the >> but i think for me, it's the pendulum swung a bit far pendulum has swung a bit too far the wrong when it comes to

the wrong way when it comes to children, because clearly what we've over weekend and we've seen over the weekend and what talked about in what you talked about in southampton, that is criminal behaviour. yeah and i think whilst we want to whilst we don't want to necessarily criminalise children , criminalise children in the first is actually that first instance is actually that behaviour cannot be allowed to continue and be acceptable. so what it needs is for police and police can't just do this on their own. you know, we're looking at schools, we're looking at schools, we're looking at schools, we're looking at parents in particular to take responsibility to make sure that there's enough input going into those kids so that they understand. but of course, some of the problems is how do you reach those children? so some of the young people, the sort of the more hardened types, if you like, who are running amok and they're not even in school , sometimes they can often school, sometimes they can often be you know, in the alternative provision, colleges , which we provision, colleges, which we know they don't turn up to because they've been excluded from school or they don't have that parental situation at home, it is very tricky, which is why it's very difficult just to put

this on the police to do and clear up, oh, no, why are we saying , you know, come on, saying, you know, come on, parents, get a grip here. >> oh, no, 100. i think you've got enough on plate. got enough on your plate. genuinely about this genuinely to worry about this kind stuff. i wonder kind of stuff. i do wonder whether or not i've quite a bit of it is to do with a lack of a strong male role model as well. that a vacuum. it that creates a vacuum. it creates vacuum, i think, a creates a vacuum, i think, for a lot of people like like andrew tate, for example, to go and fill i think it also fill in there, i think it also just creates a bit of just creates a fair bit of chaos. and like you said, there are of people essentially are a lot of people essentially being online. there being raised online. if there were role models, were strong male role models, i imagine lot of the people imagine a lot of the people doing this are young men, right, or boys. i think that or young boys. i think that might something help. might have something to help. but leave it there, but we've got to leave it there, i'm but thank you very i'm afraid. but thank you very much. and good luck dealing with these katie bourne these feral kids. katie bourne there, sussex police there, who is the sussex police and commissioner. it's and crime commissioner. now it's emerged that people traffickers are new from spain are using a new route from spain to bring migrants into the uk. patrick christys on news, patrick christys on gb news, where news channel where britain's news channel a brighter with solar brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb

news. >> hello . much of the uk are >> hello. much of the uk are enjoying some pretty fine weather this week with lots of sunshine around. yes, there will be a few showers here and there, but most places will be dry and feeling warm in sunshine as feeling warm in that sunshine as well. at the pressure well. we look at the pressure pattern, you high pattern, then you can see high pressure really continuing to build from the west. that's build in from the west. that's what's increasingly what's bringing increasingly fine, weather fine, dry and sunny weather across few across the country. still a few showers towards north—east, showers towards the north—east, closer of low closer to that area of low pressure, here's pressure, though. here's a picture. then through tuesday pressure, though. here's a picture. andi through tuesday pressure, though. here's a picture. and overnight,jesday pressure, though. here's a picture. and overnight, then,( pressure, though. here's a picture. and overnight, then, as evening and overnight, then, as you can see, lot of places you can see, a lot of places will be dry overnight. a will be dry overnight. still a few showers parts of few showers across parts of scotland, england. scotland, north—east england. these away as these tending to fade away as we head through the and head through the night. and actually of england and actually for much of england and wales, northern we will wales, northern ireland, we will see skies see largely clear skies developing overnight and that will 1 or 2 mist will lead to one or 1 or 2 mist and fog patches and also turning fairly chilly well some fairly chilly as well in some rural towns and rural spots. but in towns and cities, holding up cities, temperatures holding up 10 to 13 degrees. your 10 to 13 degrees. is your overnight lows. under those overnight lows. so under those clear we have a pretty clear skies, we have a pretty fine of the fine start for much of the country thing on wednesday country first thing on wednesday morning. sunshine, morning. a lot of sunshine, particularly across england,

wales, ireland. wales, northern ireland. more cloud, continuing cloud, though, continuing to affect a affect parts of scotland with a gain 2 showers and actually gain 1 or 2 showers and actually for of day, most places for much of the day, most places will dry. like i said, still will be dry. like i said, still the of an isolated shower the risk of an isolated shower across england and wales still further showers parts further showers affecting parts of england. further showers affecting parts of most england. further showers affecting parts of most will england. further showers affecting parts of most will e dry|nd. but most places will be dry fine and warm as well. 26 degrees there for london, low 20s for scotland ireland. scotland and northern ireland. we thursday. we look ahead into thursday. then largely dry then again, that largely dry theme to continue with theme looks set to continue with clear skies many areas, some clear skies for many areas, some sunshine towards clear skies for many areas, some sun west towards clear skies for many areas, some sun west the towards clear skies for many areas, some sun west the northwest,; the west and the northwest, a bit more cloud towards the east coast. but again in that sunshine feeling warm, warmer still into friday. still as we head into friday. but increasing but with that, an increasing risk showers and risk of showers and thunderstorms. brighter thunderstorms. a brighter outlook proud outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> it's 4 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. now we're going to be having a big discussion on this. should the european union actually be helping us out in terms of a returns policy for illegal channel migrants? i think they're well, they're just going to say, well, you leave. and frankly, you voted to leave. and frankly, they your now. but they are your problem now. but we'll a debate on all we'll be having a debate on all of that. i'll also be talking about another referendum on about this another referendum on net this time, though, net zero. this time, though, some rishi sunak own mps are some of rishi sunak own mps are calling this. i think it is calling for this. i think it is a good thing. okay. if it was all going to cost us a load of money, shouldn't have money, why shouldn't we have a pubuc money, why shouldn't we have a public vote on it? i'll also be chatting about as well. the chatting about this as well. the truth 20 mile an hour truth about 20 mile an hour speed limit. could they really be for emergency services?

be bad for emergency services? holding etcetera? holding up ambulances, etcetera? would that make people think twice about those low twice about having those low speed i'll also speed zones? and i'll also be discussing fantastic news discussing this fantastic news potentially , potentially for potentially, potentially for people struggling not just with alcoholism as well, but other forms addiction and indeed forms of addiction and indeed their weight. could there be new miracle jabs coming on the market sometime soon? patrick christys on . gb news. okay. so christys on. gb news. okay. so where are you on this issue about the european union having some duty potentially, even if it's just a friendly duty to help us out with the returns agreement for the channel migrants? what do you think about that? should we just return them anyway? gb views or gbnews.com? but right now it's your polly . patrick >> thank you. good afternoon. the top story from the gb newsroom. >> the metropolitan police says six former police officers have been charged with sending racist

messages on whatsapp. >> the messages were shared within a closed group, but the force says those involved were not serving at any point during their participation in the group. the officers retired between 2001 and 2015. >> they'll appear at westminster magistrates court next month . magistrates court next month. meanwhile, norfolk and suffolk police have admitted that the personal information of over 1000 people, including victims of crime and witnesses, was mistakenly released in response to freedom of information requests. both forces have attributed the mistake to a technical issue in a joint statement, the forces said the data was hidden from anyone opening the files issued between . 2021 and 2022. the prime minister has said that wages rising at their fastest level for 22 years represents light at the end of the tunnel. figures from the office for national statistics show today that wages rose by 7.8% in the last quarter

, with inflation standing at 7.9. the prime minister says bringing inflation down is still his government's key aim. >> it's inflation that's making people feel poorer. it's eating into the savings in their bank account, making sure there's less money that they have at the end the month. and that's why end of the month. and that's why we bring it down. and we need to bring it down. and that's also bring down that's how we'll also bring down interest and ease the interest rates and ease the pressure on people's mortgages. now are progress. i'm now we are making progress. i'm not and have not complacent. and we'll have more week which more numbers this week which hopefully show continued downward inflation. downward movement on inflation. but we've got to stick to the plan. that means taking the right, decisions for right, responsible decisions for the , being responsible the economy, being responsible with with public with borrowing, with public sector pay. and if we that, sector pay. and if we do that, we bring inflation down. we will bring inflation down. >> the metropolitan police say three people are facing trial for allegedly breaching the official secrets act. five people were arrested in february as part of an investigation by the met's counter—terror command . three of the five who are believed to be bulgarian were later charged with possession of false identity documents and

appeared in court last month. all five were released on bail until september. air in the united states. donald trump says he'll release a detailed report next monday on what he's calling election fraud, referring to the 2020 us election . the former 2020 us election. the former president has been landed with a fourth indictment, this time in the state of georgia, accusing him of trying to overturn his election loss to joe biden. he's called the fourth set of charges a witch hunt. the 13 charges include falsely declaring that election fraud had occurred and urging state officials to violate their oaths of office by altering the election results. donald trump is still the front runner as the republican nominee for next year's presidential election . he denies any election. he denies any wrongdoing . election. he denies any wrongdoing. his election. he denies any wrongdoing . his are. the home wrongdoing. his are. the home office has exclusively told gb news there's been a huge increase in undocumented migrants exploiting rules to work in the food delivery sector

. it says restaurants and small businesses are offering delivery. services are being urged to carry out more stringent checks on their drivers to crack down on scams . drivers to crack down on scams. home office officials say working in the shadow economy, as it's known , is a major pull as it's known, is a major pull factor for those embarking on often dangerous illegal journeys to the uk. more on that story with patrick coming up in just a moment . nhs hospitals in england moment. nhs hospitals in england will get a £250 million boost from the government to increase capacity as part of the urgent emergency care recovery plan. the money will create 900 beds to relieve pressures and help cut waiting times for 30 nhs organisations. will benefit from the investment. the majority of schemes will be completed by january to help deal with winter pressures . the royal college of pressures. the royal college of nursing, however, has questioned who will staff the new beds given the recruitment problems in nursing. but the health minister, will quince says they have taken that into account.

>> staffing is a key component of this plan. the additional staffing numbers will come from that £1 billion budget, so the additional revenue funding which will flow through nhs england through to those 32 trusts we have of course over the past year has seen an additional 6000 doctors and 15,000 nurses, but each of those trusts that have committed to build those 900 additional beds within their trusts have assured us and nhs england that they will be able to staff them with the funding supplied. >> and lastly, today marks two years since the taliban took control of afghanistan following the withdrawal of western allies . people demonstrated outside parliament earlier today in solidarity with those afghans who oppose taliban rule. aid organisations have also urged government ministers not to abandon afghans. government ministers not to abandon afghans . veterans abandon afghans. veterans minister johnny mercer , who minister johnny mercer, who served in afghanistan, acknowledged some people had been left behind after the taliban takeover and still have not been brought safely back to

britain . us not been brought safely back to britain. us gb not been brought safely back to britain . us gb news. across the britain. us gb news. across the uk on tv in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news . by saying play gb news. this is britain's news. channel by saying play gb news. this is britain's news . channel well by saying play gb news. this is britain's news. channel well , britain's news. channel well, what a way to start. >> we start with the prime minister himself, who says that he's determined to stop people coming the uk illegally. as a coming to the uk illegally. as a matter of fairness. as for the british people, might have british people, you might have heard that line somewhere else before. sunak was speaking before. rishi sunak was speaking to for the to journalists for the first time since returning his time since returning from his holy talks about holy bulbs. he talks about fighting cost of fighting inflation, the cost of living , bringing living crisis, bringing down interest good , interest rates all sounds good, doesn't he also said doesn't it? but he also said stopping the migrant boats was a top priority . when asked about top priority. when asked about the health scare on the bibby stockholm, look at stockholm, let's take a look at a listen. >> look at happened here >> look at what's happened here is that we through is it's right that we go through all checks and procedures to all the checks and procedures to ensure the well—being health ensure the well—being and health of people are being of the people who are being housed barge. but taking housed on the barge. but taking a back, what is this about

a step back, what is this about 7 a step back, what is this about ? about fairness. it's ? this is about fairness. it's about the unfairness, in fact, of british taxpayer forking out 5 or £6 million a day to house illegal migrants in hotels up and down the country. with all the pressure that puts on local communities, we've got to find alternatives to that. that's what is about. that's what the barge is about. that's why to it. why we're committed to it. but more fundamentally, just more fundamentally, we've just got to stop people coming here in place illegally. in the first place illegally. we've that we've passed tough new laws that when into force, will when they come into force, will enable to do that. and we're enable us to do that. and we're already seeing numbers this year are been in are lower than they've been in previous that's the first previous years. that's the first time look, time that's happened. look, i know a long way to go on know there's a long way to go on this, but i am determined to fix this, but i am determined to fix this problem. we making this problem. and we are making progress and people can be reassured that we will keep at it. >> well, that was the prime minister, rishi sunak, there. but to talk to the but i want to talk now to the man looked into the whites man who looked into the whites of our prime minister's eyes as he that question. stv he asked that question. stv news political christopher political editor is christopher hope so it's hope chopper good stuff. so it's about it? about fairness. is it? >> think he's striking >> yes, i think he's striking there at heart of why there at the heart of why they're doing all this work on these bibi barges. it doesn't seem it, that people

seem fair, does it, that people are here, arriving are coming here, arriving illegally, put hotels illegally, are put up in hotels while to be processed. while they wait to be processed. it's failure home it's a failure of the home office's processing speed. but from other side in france, from the other side in france, they they what they look they look at what happens go there. you happens when you go there. you go a hotel and it's clearly go to a hotel and it's clearly a pull factor for people trying to come here. and that's why i think the back his think the pm back from his houdayin think the pm back from his holiday in trying say, think the pm back from his holidyit's�*n trying say, think the pm back from his holidyit's aboutying say, think the pm back from his holidyit's about fairness. ay, look, it's about fairness. i think fairness is quite an interesting word and it might strike chord with viewers. strike a chord with viewers. interesting. what interesting. what what labour are do. they are saying are going to do. they are saying that want to use that we don't want to use barges, hotels, bases. barges, hotels, air bases. that's starmer that's what keir starmer yesterday. can yesterday. but what else can they do? i think clearly the they do? so i think clearly the tories, the tory government heading this election, they want to barges, have ways to have these barges, have ways of being illegally of housing being illegally arrived would arrived migrants. and what would labour key question labour do will be a key question they'll be asking. >> indeed. and going >> yeah, indeed. and i'm going to now actually when it to ask that now actually when it comes when comes the comes when it comes to the relationship with european relationship with the european union that's union going forward, that's another for us today, another biggie for us today, which eu essentially which is the eu essentially saying, well, you're your saying, well, you're on your own, we're not to do own, we're not going to do you any in terms returns. any favours in terms of returns. >> leaked minutes >> yes, some leaked minutes showing we're looking at showing that we're looking at trying renegotiate returns trying to renegotiate a returns

agreement. we don't have one. hence stuck in the courts hence rwanda stuck in the courts and why we're to and hence why we're trying to deal migrants coming deal with these migrants coming in. got to return them to in. we've got to return them to the countries they country. they came than came from rather than the country, country. country, maybe an eu country. they came through they apply they came through and they apply for there. so that's what for asylum there. so that's what it's the eu are it's all about. but the eu are saying we can't negotiate with france. you negotiate with uk, eu unlikely. france. you negotiate with uk, eu it's unlikely. france. you negotiate with uk, eu it's a unlikely. france. you negotiate with uk, eu it's a bit unlikely. france. you negotiate with uk, eu it's a bit of unlikely. france. you negotiate with uk, eu it's a bit of context ikely. france. you negotiate with uk, eu it's a bit of context though, >> it's a bit of context though, i think. but what was actually happening before and think happening before and i think that's important for people who 90, that's important for people who go, left the go, well, look, you left the european system european union, you had a system in place. can't renegotiate it. >> well, that's quite right. they're saying we're not going to renegotiate anything along these grounds at the moment. then had to apply to the then if you had to apply to the country you went through, you couldn't another country, couldn't go to another country, a or fourth a third country or fourth country. freedom of movement country. but freedom of movement meant get to the meant that you could get to the coast and across france. coast and come across to france. >> actually, you could. >> so actually, you could. >> so actually, you could. >> it happened, but >> well, and it happened, but you were meant to apply where the country you went through. >> and do we think that labour through. >> goingo we think that labour through. >> going to /e think that labour through. >> going to look nk that labour through. >> going to look nk renegotiate are going to look to renegotiate that deal somehow? maybe with more than tories? that deal somehow? maybe with mo we than tories? that deal somehow? maybe with mo we want than tories? that deal somehow? maybe with mo we want to an tories? that deal somehow? maybe with mo we want to an brexit ? >> we want to make brexit better. they're saying what, better. they're not saying what,

they're they're going they're not saying they're going to renegotiate the return agreement. welcome agreement. it might be welcome if they looked if that's an area they looked at, they might better at, but they might get a better heanng at, but they might get a better hearing because tories are hearing because the tories are so to the idea of brexit so tied to the idea of brexit and might they might have and that might they might have a better understanding, although frankly, rishi sunak has better understanding, although frangood rishi sunak has better understanding, although frangood relationshi sunak has better understanding, although frangood relations now1nak has better understanding, although frangood relations now with1as better understanding, although frangood relations now with the got good relations now with the eu. all calmed down since eu. it's all calmed down since bofis eu. it's all calmed down since boris johnson was prime minister. he can't make any minister. if he can't make any ground, hard to see where ground, it's hard to see where keir go on. keir star might go on. >> starmer then i mean >> keir starmer then i mean you've obviously been around the political as political game probably for as long been alive, long as i've been alive, actually. don't want to you actually. don't want to make you feel old. a doff my cap feel old. that's a doff my cap to how experienced are. to how experienced you are. people fearful they people might be fearful if they voted that keir voted for brexit that if keir starmer get into power, starmer does get into power, they basically will mean rejoining european union. rejoining the european union. they this, they will hear things like this, like better brexit. like we want a better brexit. and maybe his only option would be closer cooperation with be much closer cooperation with the you think that's the eu. do you think that's a possibility? he's clear. possibility? well, he's clear. >> the european >> we have left the european union that has happened. union that that has happened. we are not going in. they do are not going back in. they do want negotiate or they want to negotiate or they intimate. negotiate intimate. they want to negotiate a better on on on some a better deal on on on some areas of the agreement. areas of the of the agreement. and course, that agreement is and of course, that agreement is up again in a couple

up for grabs. again in a couple of time. it's going of years time. it was it's going to reviewed and looked at to be reviewed and looked at again. know again. i think, you know arguably it's not going very well at the moment. i mean, you could argue why that is, whether the know, officials the you know, officials government failed deliver government has failed to deliver on massive transfer government has failed to deliver on power massive transfer government has failed to deliver on power in massive transfer government has failed to deliver on power in 2016 nassive transfer government has failed to deliver on power in 2016 nassiv brussels r of power in 2016 from brussels to london. and london appears to have wanted the power, not have not wanted the power, not done much yes, there's done much with it. yes, there's been a war on yes, covid happened, but think a lot of happened, but i think a lot of people voted for brexit are people who voted for brexit are waiting to see the benefits they thought get. thought they were going to get. >> we're approaching the end of what's affectionately known as silly aren't where silly season, aren't we, where the it. patrick yeah, the middle of it. patrick yeah, well, sorry about that. i'm well, i'm sorry about that. i'm hoping. hoping it will hoping. i'm hoping that it will end really. do end soon, really. but what do you think sunak's going to you think rishi sunak's going to have to hit ground have to do to hit the ground running as when we really running as and when we really get back it? running as and when we really getiyack it? running as and when we really geti think it? running as and when we really geti think people people who >> i think people people who want to conservative want want to vote conservative want to vision from sunak that he to a vision from sunak that he hasn't given them yet. that's what tell me. they're what tory mps tell me. they're support so support voters. tell them. so we're to see what's the we're waiting to see what's the big so in january, he big idea so far? in january, he set five targets for the set out five targets for the yeah set out five targets for the year. we know what they are. let's not go over the game. immigration, health, health,

etcetera. immigration, health, health, etcete but they to see an debt. but they want to see an idea of what that's that's idea of what that's a that's a good idea. you're doing the competency prime competency of being prime minister. where's reason competency of being prime mivote r. where's reason competency of being prime mivote conservative? reason competency of being prime mivote conservative? andreason competency of being prime mivote conservative? and that n to vote conservative? and that has not happened yet. this 20 point lead that labour has got the tory strategist is the hope for tory strategist is that are don't that those those are the don't knows people sitting on knows that people are sitting on their that's that's their hands and that's that's exaggerated labour's lead because say labour because many would say labour haven't earned that haven't quite earned it yet that they're cutting they're not really cutting through the keir starmer is no tony blair. so there's to tony blair. so there's work to do sides. but i think do on both sides. but i think what want a vision from. what they want is a vision from. and just lastly, look up and just lastly, does he look up for it? >> you know, you saw him today, you were there with him today. you a measure him. you can get a measure of him. does he look for that fight? does he look up for that fight? >> looked rested. >> he looked rested. >> he looked rested. >> looked keen. he wouldn't >> he looked keen. he wouldn't ask a question. i asked him about you know, about taylor swift. you know, he's well, still this he's he's he's well, still this season. he's in the he's in season. but he's in the he's in the zone. he knows his work to do. these big the big do. he's got these big the big inflation numbers tomorrow inflation numbers out tomorrow which intimated will which he intimated will see a trending again that's trending downwards again that's for so think he for great us all. so i think he seemed enthused i think seemed enthused tastic. i think he me someone politics he seems to me someone politics is not like running a company where can put money in one

where you can put money in one place. happens, it's place. if that happens, it's often pull levers, nothing often you pull levers, nothing happens. the happens. and that's almost the frustration i sense around him. >> what was the question >> just what was the question about david? about taylor swift, david? >> you swifty? are you swifty? >> patrick i have been known to be a of swifty every now be a bit of a swifty every now and i'm not much. and and again. i'm not so much. and then it will come on. and then i think, well, you know, just sort of. but she all of. yeah, but she seems all right. about right. well, i admire about taylor swift a work ethic taylor swift is a work ethic because does a lot gigs because she does a lot of gigs out the to stadiums. she out in the rain to stadiums. she goes hours hours and goes for on hours and hours and hours dealt with a lot hours and she's dealt with a lot of negative press as well. >> that's what sunak me >> that's not what sunak told me today. ignored today. he's ignored the question, said, question, just blanked it said, i've on all day and i've i've been on all day and i've come working now. i come back and working now. i think felt and think he probably felt and i don't guessing he don't know this i'm guessing he felt i go towards felt that if i go towards discussing holiday, other discussing my holiday, other bits of that holiday or grabs. discussing my holiday, other bit i of that holiday or grabs. discussing my holiday, other biti thinkt holiday or grabs. discussing my holiday, other biti think he oliday or grabs. discussing my holiday, other biti think he feltay or grabs. discussing my holiday, other biti think he felt that's rabs. discussing my holiday, other biti think he felt that's my;. so i think he felt that's my private know i'm at work. >> @ enough. >> well, fair enough. >> well, fair enough. >> fair enough. you >> well, fair enough. well you know you like now? do? yes know who you like now? i do? yes you this is why earn you see, this is why you earn the because you the big bucks. maybe because you managed out me. the big bucks. maybe because you mana christopher, out me. the big bucks. maybe because you mana christopher, hope|t me. the big bucks. maybe because you mana christopher, hope that me. look, christopher, hope that we're be hearing we're going to be hearing and seeing from this seeing a heck of a lot from this wonderful chap the course wonderful chap over the course of, future gb news

of, well, the future gb news political editor there, christopher has christopher hope. now it has emerged route emerged today that a new route for come to the uk for migrants to come to the uk has appeared and people from albania are involved in illegal transportation, from santander, albania are involved in illegal transp0|bank1, from santander, albania are involved in illegal transp0|bank infrom santander, albania are involved in illegal transp0|bank in spain antander, albania are involved in illegal transp0|bank in spain to :ander, not the bank in spain to portsmouth. £14,000 not the bank in spain to poreacthh. £14,000 not the bank in spain to poreach person £14,000 not the bank in spain to poreach person . £14,000 not the bank in spain to poreach person . with £14,000 not the bank in spain to poreach person . with the 14,000 not the bank in spain to poreach person . with the new)0 not the bank in spain to poreébeing'son . with the new)0 not the bank in spain to poreébeing muchwith the new)0 not the bank in spain to poreébeing much safer. 1e new)0 not the bank in spain to poreébeing much safer. andzw)0 route being much safer. and if it works, migrants are less likely, they say, to be caught and back to albania. but and sent back to albania. but i just wanted to know about what this would mean for people arriving in the uk, what their chances of staying would be, and frankly well it means if frankly as well what it means if you're paying amount of you're paying that amount of money. this thing about money. again, this thing about being victim human being the victim of human trafficking, i suppose if you are parting with £14,000 of your cash, if indeed it is your cash, does that diminish your right in your capacity to be able to claim asylum here and claim to be the victim of human traffickers? about traffickers? let's talk about this a fan this news now with a fan favourite here on gb news. it's the wonderful immigration lawyer, hardeep singh hijab. thank you. great to see you. yet again here. the good again here. fighting the good fight, right? look this new route so you arrive in the route now, so you arrive in the back of a lorry via spain into places portsmouth . what places like portsmouth. what does this mean when it comes to

your your human rights, your ability claim because ability to claim asylum? because this can this lot are, from what i can gather actually really gather, actually really desperately to avoid any desperately trying to avoid any detection. whereas the channel migrants don't really care. well it could mean two things. >> 1 or 2 things. >> 1 or 2 things. >> first one would be they can just normally claim asylum and go channels and then go through the channels and then be released or be shipped be either released or be shipped to a hotel or even detained. >> or it could be the fact that the deterrent, the news of the deterrent that you might put deterrent that you might be put on or sent to rwanda has on a barge or sent to rwanda has got out and a bigger deterrent. obviously, the tragic incident that happened in the channel, that happened in the channel, that there's a loss of life and that there's a loss of life and that people are saying, well, hold on, we don't want to pay to be sent to rwanda end up be sent to rwanda or end up on a barge. so therefore pay barge. so therefore we'd pay extra. get us into extra. if you can get us into the uk undetected. now that would be very interesting to see how that works, especially with border security and especially the methods that they have to detect people in lorries. i mean, the last time i was aware of any sort of detection in lorries, the border force

actually had a mechanism, had a device where they could put it in a lorry and sense if anyone was breathing in there. so that's how tight security is, is there. but if the gangs have managed to bypass a way through, then surely it would indicate. well, hold on this. their network is very sophisticated and it still wouldn't stop people from claiming asylum. people would still go asylum. so therefore, the pull factor to come to the uk hasn't been deterred clearly. and the rates have gone up. and what what's happenedis have gone up. and what what's happened is the deterrent might have worked in a opposite way . have worked in a opposite way. so it might have happened that there's more people now willing to pay but pay a higher price for a better product as such. and if that happens, then clearly the barge in rwanda have just been flops as well. >> well, neither of them have actually happened yet. i mean, the barge happened for about three days for about people. three days for about 39 people. and then it turned out it might have deadly for a bit, but have been deadly for a bit, but now it's not. but it is gift, now it's not. but it is a gift, of to people of course, to people who are claiming be paying

claiming that it would be paying for course , obviously claiming that it would be paying for still ourse , obviously claiming that it would be paying for still paying obviously claiming that it would be paying for still paying for'iously claiming that it would be paying for still paying for it.|sly we're still paying for it. we will for everything, won't we're still paying for it. we will i for everything, won't we're still paying for it. we will i mean, everything, won't we're still paying for it. we will i mean, that's1ing, won't we're still paying for it. we will i mean, that's whatrvon't we're still paying for it. we will i mean, that's what we 't we're still paying for it. we will i mean, that's what we do. we? i mean, that's what we do. we'll sorts tom we'll pay for all sorts tom moore even more. moore pay the french even more. but to the matter hand, but back to the matter in hand, how would i, as somebody who has paid a human trafficker to get on and get across the on a dinghy and get across the channel on a dinghy and get across the channel, have exactly the channel, have have exactly the same case for asylum as i would if i'd have paid a human trafficker to put me in the back of a lorry and send me here via spain . spain. >> yeah, you probably would have the sort of same the fact the sort of same claim. the fact people been paying to come people have been paying to come to uk paying smugglers for to the uk paying smugglers for ages the past 20 ages for at least the past 20 years since i've been looking at them . even in 2000 and 2001, them. even in 2000 and 2001, 2002, people used to come and say , well, we've paid. we tell say, well, we've paid. we tell immigration, we've paid x amount of person an agent or a people smuggler for x amount of money to come here. the rates change, the routes are relatively don't change. french coast to kent coast is the most obvious one. this is a new route, obviously from spain to what they're saying to, you know, the english coast. so they would have a

claim for asylum. it would probably diminish their claim if they then said, well, hold on, we were safe in france, but we decided to come here out of choice and, you know, we decided to come here for economic reasons . that would diminish reasons. that would diminish their claim. well, you would hope so, but it doesn't seem to be happening. go on. yeah so asylum seekers still by law have asylum seekers still by law have a right to apply for asylum in the country of their choice if they've claimed asylum in another third country. we used to have something called a dubun to have something called a dublin convention where we could send them back to that country. so if one of these asylum so say if one of these asylum seekers asylum in seekers had claimed asylum in austria thought, right, austria and then thought, right, i want to off to england, i want to head off to england, we a system called eurodac we had a system called eurodac where are we doing that, though? >> the thing, isn't it? >> this is the thing, isn't it? but were we really doing a but were we really doing that a huge also wasn't huge amount and also wasn't there thing the very huge amount and also wasn't therecountry? the very huge amount and also wasn't therecountry? yeah, the very first country? yeah, the very first country? yeah, the very first country? yeah, the very first country that used the safe country that you'd passed through. then of course, through. but then of course, that kind of nullified a bit that was kind of nullified a bit with the open borders , which with the open borders, which allowed then just allowed them to then just continue to pass through every other it's a other country. i mean, it's a good make there.

good point that you make there. i your i mean, from from your perspective, whilst we legally might to return might have been able to return people more easily, were we actually that , this is a actually doing that, this is a key question and you've hit the nail on the head. >> the figures for the dublin convention relatively low. convention were relatively low. they really in the they weren't really in the thousands tens of thousands or the tens of thousands or the tens of thousands that they should have been. the facility was been. but the facility was there. now, that's the key . now there. now, that's the key. now we haven't the facility we haven't got the facility because the european countries today well, actually for the last or 4 years, they last 3 or 4 years, they blatantly told us when eu blatantly told us when no eu country signing a deal. last blatantly told us when no eu countevery;igning a deal. last blatantly told us when no eu countevery single a deal. last blatantly told us when no eu countevery single euieal. last blatantly told us when no eu countevery single eu countryt year, every single eu country has told the uk we're not going to sign a returns agreement. it's your problem now. the people that land on your shores or in your shores are your problem. so that bit is very clear whether labour can renegotiate something is something different . but what is something different. but what is interesting , as christopher interesting is, as christopher says and, you know, very learned guests and really great listening to him actually what he says is labour might be able to do things better because remember what we always talk about, the figures and the proof

is always in the figures in 2009, labour with the same mechanism was sending back 60,000 people a year. now 50,000 people coming a year isn't a problem if you're sending 60,000 back. that number has whittled patrick to even before . brexit patrick to even before. brexit to 2015 to 5000 in forced removals last year, 3000 forced removals last year, 3000 forced removals . so 50,000 people are removals. so 50,000 people are coming last year on small boats and you're only sending 3000 back. you've got a 47,000 surplus. if you could send back 50,000 a year, it probably wouldn't matter. you know, your net migration, it wouldn't affect it because 50 are coming in. you're sending 50 back. so the key is the returns here. >> no, it is. and let's be honest, we might be about to find out what labour will do in that situation at some point within next year or 18 within the next year or 18 months. thank you very months. hijab thank you very much. always a pleasure. harjot singh gelder immigration singh van gelder immigration lawyer. favourite lawyer. everybody's favourite immigration lawyer. you can immigration lawyer. now you can get this on immigration lawyer. now you can get website this on immigration lawyer. now you can get website gb this on immigration lawyer. now you can get website gb news s on immigration lawyer. now you can get website gb news dot on immigration lawyer. now you can get website gb news dot com.| immigration lawyer. now you can get website gb news dot com. the our website gb news dot com. the fastest growing national news

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online gb news. britain's news. channel ina channel in a few minutes time, we will debate whether there should be a referendum on the government's net zero targets. >> and rishi sunak's own mps are talking about that. i will also , by the way, be chatting about how obsessed i am with this. the proof . oh that's right. proof. oh yes, that's right. apparently we have proved apparently we have now proved that there is a big cat, a panther on the loose in staffordshire . if you are staffordshire. if you are watching in staffordshire, don't panic. it's probably fine. just lock your doors, shut your windows and that should be fine. but yes, i am obsessed with the idea of there being a big cat out roaming the british out roaming in the british countryside. but more serious matters obesity crisis cost matters the obesity crisis cost this country £27 billion a year, and the government's latest policy to tackle the problem is by making weight loss jabs available over an nhs app under new plans. that's one side of this story . i always feel very

this story. i always feel very sorry for the people that we use as floats on this because you must recognise yourself these must recognise yourself in these pictures. you? even pictures. mustn't you? even though heads you though we cut the heads off you know you are indeed the fatty in the but 50,000 people know you are indeed the fatty in the benefit ut 50,000 people know you are indeed the fatty in the benefit from,000 people know you are indeed the fatty in the benefit from the) people know you are indeed the fatty in the benefit from the new ple could benefit from the new onune could benefit from the new online clinics as hospitals are unable to keep up with the demand for injections. there's also hope for those struggling with alcoholism . and this really with alcoholism. and this really is the new bit. a new study on macaque monkeys has found that an injection into the brain could reduce the amount that alcoholics drink . by around 90. alcoholics drink. by around 90. now, i think that really would be a monumental breakthrough. joining me to discuss this further is pharmacist torfaen gavin torin . thank you so, so gavin torin. thank you so, so much . and i am a little bit more much. and i am a little bit more intrigued by the alcoholism jab than i am with the fat jab, just mainly because i think we've done that a couple of times already. so a jab into the brain when it doesn't sound appealing, but to be fair, suffering the horrors of alcoholism doesn't sound either. so do sound appealing either. so do you know a bit about this ? you know a bit about this? >> let me break it for down you.

okay. we've only done the tests at the moment on the on the monkeys. so as you know, with the with drug trials, we've got a long way to go before this ends up with humans. but this is a start in the right direction. so and the injection into the brain could reduce the amount that alcoholics drink by about 90. this study saying. but you know, early days , as you know, know, early days, as you know, when we're developing drugs for humans , that takes a many years humans, that takes a many years to get to the stage where we actually provide them to humans , because we've got to do a lot of research on them. so the protein in is basically it's delivered orally or by a normal jab. that's the idea . and what jab. that's the idea. and what we saw or what they saw in this study is that there was this choice to drink water instead. now, i think we've got a long way to go before this hits any pharmacy near you, but it's obviously a good conversation to have because if you are excessively drinking and as then

obviously that is a concern . obviously that is a concern. >> no, absolutely. i mean, i know that a lot of people who work with alcoholics will probably say that alcoholism is a symptom of another problem , a symptom of another problem, another issue, a life problem, potentially , and therefore maybe potentially, and therefore maybe a jab itself wouldn't necessarily get to the root of the issue. i suppose it might help . i don't know if you know help. i don't know if you know this, but in order to test that, did we have to get a load of monkeys addicted to booze ? monkeys addicted to booze? >> so as you know, with research , we have to do quite a lot behind scenes before we even behind the scenes before we even get where we test on get to a stage where we test on humans then even with drug humans and then even with drug research, we even even when we get to the human stage, we give half or some of the half the humans or some of the humans, placebo humans, not the drug, a placebo . and then we give it to some of the humans. so there's all of that , which is a good that testing, which is a good thing want to be thing because we want to be in a stage people are not going stage where people are not going to be harmed. and when they actually take but as actually come to take it. but as with drugs development , the with all drugs development, the more it's in use, the more we

learn about it, which is actually have this scheme actually why we have this scheme where we see any side effects where if we see any side effects of drugs or things which aren't quite right, we're as health care professionals, we do report them to the mhra, which are the regulators body for drugs here. and they check up on some of the side effects that people experience. so yes, it's a long way forward and but it's definitely in the right the right way. and obesity , 1 in right way. and obesity, 1 in 4 of us in the uk are obese , of us in the uk are obese, aren't we? so i think it's concerning that we're getting to this stage of actually we don't want to be giving people injections for obesity, but if that's where we are at because people have tried a range of things, then that's another step in the right direction. but ultimately this does come down to you've got to be thinking about your eating and your movement, regardless of whether you get prescribed these these medications to help you with weight loss . yeah. and not all weight loss. yeah. and not all of them have nice side effects ehhen of them have nice side effects either. that's the other thing to think about.

>> well, very quickly, though. so the fat jabs, what kind of side we talking side effects are we talking about there? >> so get nausea, >> so you can get nausea, vomiting, that sort of thing. a common side effects. common sort of side effects. now some treatments for some of the other treatments for fat, for weight loss, for example, can result in farting, belching . and even this one, belching. and even this one, that's a common side effect. so it's not without its problems when you are having this medication, which is why we need to try and prevent people from getting to that stage in the first place. >> gosh , i mean, my partner will >> gosh, i mean, my partner will tell you that it sounds like i might have been on one of these jabs for a rather long time. but torin, thank very, very torin, thank you very, very much. you on the torin, thank you very, very much.i you on the torin, thank you very, very much.i love you on the torin, thank you very, very much.i love the you on the torin, thank you very, very much.i love the way you on the torin, thank you very, very much.i love the way thaton the torin, thank you very, very much.i love the way that you1e show. i love the way that you explain us. hope to explain things for us. i hope to talk to you again very, very soon. it's gavin who a soon. it's gavin who is a pharmacist. so, yeah, a couple of changers think of game changers there. i think certainly alcoholism is certainly the alcoholism one is worth further investigation, isn't on from isn't it? but we'll move on from that. now and that. now, between now and 5 pm. sunak back pm. as rishi sunak gets back to work summer holiday, work after his summer holiday, we he we will discuss whether he should listen red wall should listen to his red wall mps referendum on the mps and get a referendum on the go over net zero. how would you

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see skies see largely clear skies developing that developing overnight and that will 1 or 2 will lead to one or miss 1 or 2 mist patches and also mist and fog patches and also turning chilly as in turning fairly chilly as well in some in towns some rural spots. but in towns and temperatures and cities, temperatures holding up degrees. is your up 10 to 13 degrees. is your overnight . so under those overnight lows. so under those clear skies, got to clear skies, we got off to a pretty fine start for much of the country. first thing on wednesday morning. a lot of sunshine, particularly across england, sunshine, particularly across england more though, ireland, more cloud, though, continuing to affect parts of scotland gain 1 or 2 scotland with a gain 1 or 2 showers and actually for much of the places be the day, most places will be dry. still the risk dry. like i said, still the risk of shower across of an isolated shower across england wales, still further england and wales, still further showers northeast england. scotland, northeast england. but most places dry fine and most places will be dry fine and warm 26 degrees there warm as well. 26 degrees there for london, low 20s for scotland and northern ireland. we look ahead into thursday. then again, that dry theme looks set that largely dry theme looks set to continue with skies for to continue with clear skies for many sunshine many areas, some sunshine particularly towards west particularly towards the west and northwest , a bit more and the northwest, a bit more cloud towards the east coast. and the northwest, a bit more clou again ards the east coast. and the northwest, a bit more clouagainardthate east coast. and the northwest, a bit more clouagainardthat sunshine st. but again in that sunshine feeling warmer still as we feeling warm, warmer still as we head friday. but with that, head into friday. but with that, an increasing risk of showers and thunderstorms , a brighter and thunderstorms, a brighter outlook with boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on .

sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> fascinating one. this because yesterday i talked about the splitting government between mps who back the 2015 net zero target and those who aren't keen. and sure enough, today red wall mp marco longhi has called for a referendum on the issue. and i'm not surprised the conservatives , labour and the conservatives, labour and the liberal democrats all back the policy. but many tory mps in the nonh policy. but many tory mps in the north and the midlands in particular fear that it could cost them their seats at the next election . i think there is next election. i think there is also a genuine argument to be had there about cost to the taxpayer, not just costing mps their seats. but to debate this, i am joined by senior meteorologist at british weather services is jim dale and the director of the global warming policy foundation. benny benny, thank very much. as well as thank you very much. as well as jim benny, i'll start with you. just because you're sitting right next what you right next to me, what do you make you think make of this? and do you think there a referendum on

there should be a referendum on net zero, 2050? well i'm pretty sure timing is not right sure at the timing is not right for a referendum . for a referendum. >> it's far too early. the parties in westminster are adamant that there is a consensus in parliament that but the pain might eventually grow so much that people will say, well, we have to have a say in this. and if parliament doesn't listen, all surveys suggest that while the majority of britons are in favour of net zero, if they have to pay for it, they are opposed to net zero. >> so there will be at some point when the pain threshold is reached , a movement for reached, a movement for a referendum , but perhaps not now. referendum, but perhaps not now. >> yeah, that is interesting. jim, i'll throw it over to you . jim, i'll throw it over to you. i mean, i know that. yeah, the surveys do tend to say that people are in favour of it. a lot of those questions are asked about you know, you care about you know, do you care about you know, do you care about change and people about climate change and people will yeah, well do care. will go, yeah, well i do care. but ask them about but then if you ask them about can a electric can you afford a new electric car something like then

car or something like that, then the very the answer is often are very different. would different. i mean, would you back referendum on net zero? back a referendum on net zero? >> i wouldn't actually. >> i wouldn't actually. >> and i don't disagree entirely with what ben said actually . with what ben said actually. >> i know. i know you like a little bit of disagreement from time to time on guests, but time to time on your guests, but much said, i would much of what he said, i would not disagree with. look, we had a general election back in 2019 and that general election for the four major parties, including the snp in in scotland , all backed net zero in their manifestos . manifestos. >> they they in one form or another, all got elected as mps. so that's what we're going forward . what we're getting at forward. what we're getting at the moment is a few fringe mps in on the right of the tory party and reform uk who are pushing for this agenda. it's already been voted for. >> we don't need to go back on it. >> much the same with brexit. i guess that would be the argument there. >> we've already done and been and done it. that's what's put forward. so i don't think this needs to be done. you might think patrick, as think patrick, that as a meteorologist, there might be quite a referendum

quite happy about a referendum that probably return a big that probably would return a big yes vote the last time i looked at a poll, there was 73% in favour as as ben has already suggested , heavily in favour. suggested, heavily in favour. >> but i just think this is a little bit of a red herring, if you like. >> this will happen. i don't. >> the general election is going to before. to come before. >> yeah, i just wonder, benny, whether or as you've said, whether or not, as you've said, in the actual cost, in terms of the actual cost, when people see the reality of it, then that's what that's what a referendum for me would, would really drill because it really drill down on because it would put issue would really put the issue absolutely front and centre and people go right this is people would go right this is the actual day to day cost of it for going forward . and you for you going forward. and you think, do you, that if think, benny, do you, that if people were confronted that, people were confronted by that, that actually vote that they would actually vote against outline against net zero? why outline that for us? >> well, first of all, it's not entirely, entirely clear what the referendum would be about. >> there are a number of issues. >> there are a number of issues. >> it's the date of net zero. and remember , most of the world and remember, most of the world doesn't have a date at all. they don't have any legally binding

targets. so it's just basically europe . even the us doesn't have europe. even the us doesn't have a binding target. >> the chinese don't have a binding. no one has a binding target apart from the europeans. >> so this is one issue. but can i just say about the kind of all party consensus on net zero, philip hammond, who was the chancellor under theresa may said all ministers and prime ministers have misled the public about the cost of net zero. so the parliament has been misled. the country has been misled. no one had a voice to scrutinise the cost issue . that's what i'm the cost issue. that's what i'm saying. can you just give me a couple of figures, benny, before i throw it over to jim then? >> what do you mean about being misled? are what misled? come on. what are what are these numbers? >> well, you. >> emu-— >> well, you. >> philip may remember >> well, you. >> philip hammondy remember >> well, you. >> philip hammond as remember >> well, you. >> philip hammond as a remember >> well, you. >> philip hammond as a asmember >> well, you. >> philip hammond as a as aember that philip hammond as a as a chancellor wrote to theresa may and said , this will be painfully and said, this will be painfully expensive . expensive. >> and i think he came up with an estimate of £1 trillion by

2050. >> in reality , it's more like 3 >> in reality, it's more like 3 or £4 trillion. so we're talking tens of thousands of pounds per household . okay. and he said household. okay. and he said that ministers and prime ministers did not want to know about the cost issue . about the cost issue. >> right. well, there we go then, jim. i suppose that i mean, that if those figures are right, i mean, that the kind right, i mean, that is the kind of would make people of thing that would make people change their minds about voting for backed for a party that backed net zero. that's zero. no yeah, that's the that's the red red rag to bull the old red red rag to a bull situation . situation. >> let's just say this. >> let's just say this. >> it's the cost of not doing net zero. >> that's going to the >> that's going to be the expensive one. >> deloitte are big, big >> deloitte, who are a big, big city firm i the global city firm. i think the global they came up with figures for not doing zero in terms of not doing net zero in terms of the next up to 2050 and suggested and you can see this happening this year patrick in terms of various weather terms of the various weather stroke climate events that have been going on, huge qatar seismic events in some in certain circumstances, but they worked out that it was going to be something in the region of

$170 trillion in terms of not going in this direction. so the small, small side of it of evolving in towards net zero by 2050 or whatever date we actually get there, pales into into significance in terms of the costs of going not doing that and facing what the climate is going to deliver. >> well, that's a pretty good rebuttal. benny, what do you make of that? yeah i mean, if it comes to a referendum and i'm pretty sure at some point if the parliament doesn't listen to the vast majority of britons who are concerned about the individual policies of net zero, if parliament doesn't listen, we will eventually come to a situation where there will be a movement like the brexit referendum movement where the. >> yeah, but what jim's what jim said there is, is, is cost said there is, is, is the cost of not doing anything. >> these are i mean, let's >> this, these are i mean, let's face it , first of all, the idea face it, first of all, the idea that we're not doing anything ing is of course ridiculous . ing is of course ridiculous. >> of course countries are doing a lot . but the question is, what a lot. but the question is, what do you do? what do you

prioritise? it's not about doing something or nothing. it's what should we do that is cost effective, that makes sense and that we can deal with climate change. but is the problem that urgent for you? >> benny that's the thing, isn't it? because if what jim is saying there is correct, that's that's if, you know the catastrophe happens, right. i mean, do you think it going catastrophe happens, right. i m jim, i'll let you come back to that. and i will also just just gently nudge you in the direction of, you know, there direction of, you know, is there no technology no way that human technology between now and 2050 can just solve all of our problems? you know, can flood defences know, we can have flood defences and stuff go on.

and all of this stuff go on. >> i think. i think you're right in that there is a there is an evolving situation where technology will hope to fully come to the rescue at some point . i mean, it already is to a certain degree. ben is right with that. it's not that we're not doing nothing. the world, certain moving certain countries are moving faster what we faster than others. what we don't want is a government that we've basically we've got, which is basically rowing quite rowing backwards, not quite knowing but knowing what it's doing, but whatever reason and falling to politics rather than common sense. and i think if we all got the common sense, we might actually evolve in the right direction. a nice a pace that may not keep up with climate change. we've seen what's happened this summer in various places and what's ongoing. for example, now the china floods that's going to be occurring . that's going to be occurring. you'll probably bit more you'll probably see a bit more news the next news about that in the next week or so all of this is kind or two. so all of this is kind of, you know, the agenda of the conversation. of course , is conversation. of course, is going to continue on and on and on. it'sjust going to continue on and on and on. it's just this sunak actually gets a backbone and does about does anything about it whatsoever . whatsoever. >> right. well, >> we'll see. all right. well, both enjoyed both of you, i enjoyed that. thank very, much.

thank you very, very much. that is senior meteorologist at british services, jim british weather services, jim dale, director dale, and the director of the global warming policy foundation, peiser . great foundation, benny peiser. great stuff. it's a fascinating discussion, though, isn't to discussion, though, isn't it, to be whether or not the be had about whether or not the will the people will should will of the people will should trump what certain people think is for best us. then, of course, the other elements of that is the other elements of that is the science questionable to begin with. anyway, that begin with. but anyway, that debate to going rage on debate is to going rage on probably all probably long after we're all gone. is before gone. and how soon it is before we're gone probably we're all gone will probably depend change. depend on climate change. but a senior police officer has criticised the controversial 20 mile limit right mile an hour speed limit right across wales, saying that it will affect emergency response time. now this is something that piques interest. i'm about as piques my interest. i'm about as excited as could possibly be, excited as i could possibly be, about an hour speed about 20 mile an hour speed zones , mainly because zones now, mainly because actually is going us actually is it going to kill us by allowing ambulances by not allowing ambulances through? christys gb through? patrick christys on gb news news .

>> join me monday to thursday at 8 pm. on . gb news. after 8 pm. on. gb news. after 5:00, i will take a little look back at the taliban takeover of afghanistan than two years ago today and ask how much of a role has that played in our current migrant crisis ? migrant crisis? >> and frankly, what was it all for? but wales is controversial . 20 mile an hour speed limit is coming under increased scrutiny after senior police officers suggested that it could impact response times. now, the new speed limit on many residential

roads is set to come into force from september. the 17th to 20 miles an hour. vast swathes of wales bish, bash, bosh assist agent chief constable mark travis, though , wrote in an travis, though, wrote in an email obtained by the welsh conservatives. so it's a it's one of these old leaked documents . okay. he said that it documents. okay. he said that it would influence emergency calls. well, i'm not surprised because if you think about it, if everyone's driving at 20 miles an the are quite an hour, if the roads are quite narrow, then realistically, that could body down. have could slow every body down. have they always thought this kind of stuff through? interestingly travis has now completely reversed backtracked reversed ferreted backtracked and claimed he doesn't and claimed that he doesn't think response times would be impacted. well, call me a cynic , but you know, when you say something, the time around something, the first time around and don't think anyone's and you don't think anyone's going or ever going to read it or it's ever going to read it or it's ever going made that going to be made public, that tends be you do think. tends to be what you do think. and you it and then when you retract it afterwards, that tends to be not what think . but i wouldn't what you think. but i wouldn't want speak for travis, of want to speak for travis, of course, unless maybe i do. anyway, that people anyway, it's emerged that people traffickers as well in a completely different story that apparently doing apparently we're doing right now, using route from

now, are using a new route from spain immigrants into spain to bring immigrants into the are we talking about the uk. so are we talking about all of that? i believe we are just waiting for our 20 mile an hour . think might hour guest. i think we might have welsh conservative shadow minister for transport and technology, asghar on technology, natasha asghar on the line . no, we don't. great the line. no, we don't. great stuff . okay. well anyway, look, stuff. okay. well anyway, look, what do you make of all of this, though? do you think gb views or gbnews.com? i will delve into the world inbox right now the world of my inbox right now and have a little chat with you about these new human trafficking that have been trafficking rules that have been coming in and the new routes that are coming in as well. so via spain into portsmouth, people are saying, look, patrick, if they are found there and they've paid 14,000, this one is from tracy, if they've paid £14,000 for people smugglers to bring them from spain, a safe country free into portsmouth , and they should be portsmouth, and they should be sent straight back , back. that sent straight back, back. that is from tracy as i've said, i believe that we might now be able to get our guest, welsh conservatives , shadow minister conservatives, shadow minister for technology , for transport and technology, natasha asghar. there go. we natasha asghar. there we go. we got in end, not

got there. in the end, it's not your fault, thank you your fault, i'm sure. thank you very joining us. no, very much forjoining us. no, absolutely . absolutely good. >> thank having me so >> thank you for having me so look, an hour speed look, this 20 mile an hour speed limit, got cop limit, we've now got a top cop coming out and saying, well, this down. this this might slow us down. >> backtracked on it, >> he's backtracked on it, but we know what really >> he's backtracked on it, but we iwhat nhat really >> he's backtracked on it, but we iwhatnhayou really >> he's backtracked on it, but we iwhatnhayou make' >> he's backtracked on it, but we iwhatnhayou make of it? meant. what do you make of it? >> quite frankly, i can't blame the service at large. i'm the police service at large. i'm to going give full responsibility this the responsibility of this on the welsh they welsh labour government, they have anti road. have always been anti road. they're anti driver and they're clearly anti driver and this is just, you know, it's detrimental to economy here detrimental to the economy here in wales. >> unfortunately , it's really in wales. >>thoughtnately , it's really in wales. >>thought out ly , it's really in wales. >>thought out policy; really in wales. >>thought out policy andeally in wales. >>thought out policy and it's! ill thought out policy and it's going to have such profound going to have such a profound effect on people's day to day lives going forward. effect on people's day to day lives gyshould ward. effect on people's day to day lives gyshould be 'd. effect on people's day to day lives gyshould be focusing more >> we should be focusing on more important here >> we should be focusing on more imwales, here >> we should be focusing on more imwales, such here >> we should be focusing on more imwales, such as here >> we should be focusing on more imwales, such as failingare in wales, such as the failing health service. >> our education standards are below have so below everyone else. we have so many issues across wales that we need dealing but need to be dealing with, but unfortunately priorities unfortunately their priorities seems this ridiculous seems to be this ridiculous madcap 20mph blanket limit madcap 20mph blanket speed limit which they've spent and are going to be spending in the approximation million on approximation of £60 million on and that 26 has been spent and off. that 26 has been spent on roadside . on roadside. >> sorry, hang on a minute. how on earth does it cost money?

tens of millions of pounds to reduce the speed limit. so you've got to put signs up fine . maybe some new road markers up cameras. course is the cameras, isn't it good cameras . isn't it good cameras. >> that's where they're going to get you the cameras and alongside that, anything else that they're going to need to be spending individuals that they're going to need to be spthey're individuals that they're going to need to be spthey're going individuals that they're going to need to be spthey're going to individuals that they're going to need to be spthey're going to beindividuals that they're going to need to be spthey're going to be having|als that they're going to need to be spthey're going to be having to; is they're going to be having to hire different hire more people for different organisations and groups in order because order to enforce these, because if you're it in some order to enforce these, because if yo somehow it in some order to enforce these, because if yo somehow it have me order to enforce these, because if yo somehow it have to give way, somehow they have to give us those individuals us tickets. so those individuals are hired do are going to be hired to do those jobs. >> they make >> well, that's how they make their isn't it their money back, isn't it really? but this thing will really? but this thing they will say say isn't say they will say this isn't just want rip off just because we want to rip off the it's got nothing just because we want to rip off th

instance, what they've actually decided bring out this decided to do is bring out this policy flip flops policy initially and flip flops quite forth. the first quite back and forth. the first argument we're it for argument was we're doing it for the because the environment because this will pollution. then when will reduce pollution. then when we had come back to us, we had research come back to us, we had research come back to us, we cars are we were told that if cars are driving at 20mph and going slower, they can naturally raise the levels emissions created. the levels of emissions created. so kind of flopped . then so that kind of flopped. then they okay, we're doing they said, okay, we're doing this lives. said, this now to save lives. so said, okay, fine . as a shadow minister okay, fine. as a shadow minister of pretty of transport, this has pretty much my life much been the bane of my life and fighting and i've been fighting tirelessly to say, why don't you follow uk follow the lead of the uk government actually a government who actually had a really productive and successful go millions really productive and successful go that millions really productive and successful go that . millions really productive and successful go that . i millions really productive and successful go that . i have millions really productive and successful go that . i have no millions really productive and successful go that . i have no problem. lions really productive and successful go that . i have no problem. ifyns on that. i have no problem. if you to reduce drink you want to reduce drink drivers, you to and drivers, if you want to try and get safely on get people to drive safely on the roads i'm with that. the roads, i'm fine with that. however they don't want to do that. want spend that. they want to spend ridiculous amounts of money pushing the pushing this through the public's it and public's unaware of it and people going absolutely ballistic. >> again, you >> also, again, you know, this is much a welsh is this is very much a welsh issue love to cover all is this is very much a welsh issue here love to cover all is this is very much a welsh issue here at love to cover all is this is very much a welsh issue here at gb ve to cover all is this is very much a welsh issue here at gb news, :over all is this is very much a welsh issue here at gb news, butr all is this is very much a welsh issue here at gb news, but this bases here at gb news, but this is kind of thing that is is the kind of thing that is just rolled just going to be rolled out. i mean, it's already right across london. across london. it'll be right across manchester. across manchester. it's right across every city. so, yeah, interesting to see what the actual emergency are

actual emergency services are saying. we're to saying. natasha, we're going to have there. i am have to leave it there. but i am very managed to you very glad we managed to get you on end. natasha asghar on in the end. natasha asghar there, conservatives, there, who's the conservatives, welsh conservative, shadow minister a government technology, a welsh government spokesperson, has changing technology, a welsh government spo default)n, has changing technology, a welsh government spo default speed changing technology, a welsh government spo default speed limit changing technology, a welsh government spo default speed limit oninging the default speed limit on restricted roads in wales to 20 miles an hour does not impact the legislation that allows police fire ambulance police fire and ambulance services speed limits services to exceed speed limits in of emergency in the course of emergency response duties . right, that's response duties. right, that's that then. now it's emerged that people traffickers are using a new route from spain to bring migrants into the uk. interesting points on this, though . a lot of these people though. a lot of these people are albanians with the express intent of working in our illegal economy, never even being picked up economy, never even being picked ”p by economy, never even being picked up by any kind of immigration enforcement. why? because they want in the drugs trade want to work in the drugs trade patrick on gb news patrick christys on gb news britain's news channel. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello, much of the uk are enjoying some pretty fine weather this week with lots of sunshine around. yes, there will

be a few showers here and there, but be dry and but most places will be dry and feeling in sunshine feeling warm in that sunshine as well. the pressure well. we look at the pressure pattern. can see high pattern. then you can see high pressure continuing pressure really continuing to build west. that's build in from the west. that's what's bringing increasingly fine, dry and sunny weather across . still a few across the country. still a few showers north—east, showers towards the north—east, closer of low closer to that area of low pressure, though, here's a picture. then through tuesday evening as picture. then through tuesday evercan as picture. then through tuesday evercan see, as picture. then through tuesday evercan see, a as picture. then through tuesday evercan see, a lot as picture. then through tuesday evercan see, a lot of as picture. then through tuesday evercan see, a lot of places as you can see, a lot of places will a will be dry overnight. still a few across parts of few showers across parts of scotland, north—east england. these away as we these tending to fade away as we head . and head through the night. and actually of england, actually for much of england, wales, we wales, northern ireland, we will see skies see largely clear skies developing overnight that developing overnight and that will or will lead to one or miss 1 or 2 mist and patches and also mist and fog patches and also turning chilly as well in turning fairly chilly as well in some rural spots. but in towns and cities, temperatures holding some rural spots. but in towns an(10 ties, temperatures holding some rural spots. but in towns an(10 ties, “degrees. jres holding some rural spots. but in towns an(10 ties, “degrees. is s holding some rural spots. but in towns an(10 ties, “degrees. is your ding up 10 to 13 degrees. is your overnight lows. under overnight lows. so under those clear skies, we get off to a pretty fine start for much of the thing on the country first thing on wednesday lot of wednesday morning. a lot of sunshine particular across england, wales, northern ireland, though, ireland, more cloud, though, continuing a gain 1 scotland with a gain 1 or 2 showers actually much of showers and actually for much of the will be dry. showers and actually for much of the i will be dry. showers and actually for much of the i said, will be dry. showers and actually for much of the i said, still will be dry. showers and actually for much of the i said, still the will be dry. showers and actually for much of the i said, still the risk. be dry. showers and actually for much of the i said, still the risk of; dry. like i said, still the risk of an isolated shower across england and wales further england and wales still further showers northeast england, scotland. northeast england, but most dry fine and most places will be dry fine and warm well. 26 degrees

warm as well. 26 degrees there for london, low 20s for scotland and northern ireland. we look ahead into thursday . then again, ahead into thursday. then again, that largely dry theme looks set to clear skies for to continue with clear skies for many some sunshine many areas, some sunshine particularly towards the west many areas, some sunshine partthearly towards the west many areas, some sunshine partthe north—west the west many areas, some sunshine partthe north—west aye west many areas, some sunshine partthe north—west a bit/est many areas, some sunshine partthe north—west a bit more and the north—west a bit more cloud towards the east coast, but that sunshine but again in that sunshine feeling warmer still we but again in that sunshine feelirinto warmer still we but again in that sunshine feelirinto friday. rmer still we but again in that sunshine feelirinto friday. but' still we but again in that sunshine feelirinto friday. but with we but again in that sunshine feelirinto friday. but with that,e head into friday. but with that, an increasing risk of showers and thunderstorms . and thunderstorms. >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on .

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be chatting about this as be chatting about this topic as well. go i love well. it's all go now. i love this. i absolutely love that this. i absolutely love it that my friends, is proof of a big cat on the loose in the british countryside . lock your doors, countryside. lock your doors, lock your windows . no doubt it's lock your windows. no doubt it's probably fine. but yes. have we actually now finally proved that big cats are out and about? patrick christys on . gb news patrick christys on. gb news would just like to reiterate that you are probably safe from the big cat. that is almost definitely not actually prowling the british countryside. but anyway, gb views are gbnews.com is that email address when i come back after your headlines , come back after your headlines, i'm going to be having a big debate on whether or not actually we should just be giving channel migrants back to the european union or whether we should to take the european union or whether we shoulc but to take the european union or whether we shoulc but now, to take the european union or whether we shoulc but now, it's to take the european union or whether we shoulc but now, it's your ke them. but right now, it's your headunes them. but right now, it's your headlines . patrick

headlines with polly. patrick >> thank you. good afternoon. well, the top story from the gb newsroom today, norfolk and suffolk police have admitted that information that the personal information of over 1000 people, including victims of crime and witnesses, was mistakenly released in response to freedom of information requests . both information requests. both forces have attributed the mistake to a technical issue . in mistake to a technical issue. in a joint statement, the forces said the data was hidden from anyone opening the files issued between . 2021 and 2022. the between. 2021 and 2022. the prime minister has said that wages rising at their fastest level for 22 years means there's now light at the end of the tunnel. figures from the office for national statistics show that wages rose by 7.8% in the last quarter. but inflation still stands at 7.9. the prime minister says bringing inflation down is still his government's key aim . key aim. >> it's inflation that's making people feel poorer. it's eating into the savings in their bank account, making sure there's less money that they have at the end of the month. and that's why

we down and we need to bring it down and that's also bring down that's how we'll also bring down interest ease the interest rates and ease the pressure on people's mortgages. now progress. i'm now we are making progress. i'm not complacent we'll have not complacent and we'll have more which more numbers this week which hopefully show continued downward movement on inflation. but got to stick to the but we've got to stick to the plan. that means taking the right decisions for right responsible decisions for the economy, being responsible with borrowing, with public sector pay . and if we do that, sector pay. and if we do that, we bring inflation down. we will bring inflation down. >> the home office has exclusively revealed gb news there's been a huge increase in undocumented migrants exploiting rules to work in the food delivery sector. it says restaurants and small businesses offering delivery services are being urged to carry out more detailed checks on their drivers to crack down on scams . home to crack down on scams. home office officials say working in the shadow economy, as it's known , is a major pull factor known, is a major pull factor for those embarking on often dangerous, illegal journeys to the uk . any rise in rail fares the uk. any rise in rail fares in england next year will be below the rate of inflation. the

department for transport says the increase will not be as high as the rise in the retail prices index, which normally dictates rail fares . the government rail fares. the government government's vowed to continue to protect rail passengers with the cost of living, the soaring cost of living, saying any rises will be delayed until march next year rather than being brought in in january . the metropolitan police say three people are facing trial for allegedly breaching the official secrets act. five people were arrested in february as part of an investigation by the met's counter—terror command . three of the five are believed to be bulgare and were later charged with possession of false identity documents and appeared in court last month. all five were released on bail until september in the united states. donald trump says he'll release a detailed report next monday on what he's calling election fraud and referring to the 2020 us election . the former president election. the former president has been landed with a fourth indictment, this time in the

state of georgia, accusing him of trying to overturn his election loss to joe biden. he's called the fourth set of charges a witch hunt, which include falsely declaring the election fraud had occurred, urging state officials to violate their oaths officials to violate their oaths of office by altering the election results as well. donald trump is still the front runner as the republican nominee for next year's presidential election and denies any wrongdoing . here nhs hospitals wrongdoing. here nhs hospitals in england will get a £250 million boost from the government to increase capacity as part of the urgent emergency care recovery plan. the money will increase . 900 beds to will increase. 900 beds to relieve pressures and help cut waiting lists. 30 nhs organisations will benefit from the investment . the majority of the investment. the majority of schemes will be completed by january to help deal with winter pressures. the royal college of nursing, however, has questioned who will staff the new beds,

given the recruitment problems in nursing. but the health minister will quince said that's been taken into account. >> staffing is a key component of this plan . the additional of this plan. the additional staffing numbers will come from that £1 billion budget, so the additional revenue funding which will flow through nhs england through to those 30 trusts we have of course over the past year seen an additional 6000 doctors and 15,000 nurses, but each of those trusts that have committed to build those 900 additional beds within their trusts have assured us and nhs england that they will be able to staff them with the funding suppued. supplied. >> lastly, today marks two years since the taliban took control of afghanistan following the withdrawal of west and allies, people demonstrated outside parliament earlier on today in solidarity with afghans who oppose taliban rule. aid organisations have also urged government ministers not to abandon afghans as us gb news across the uk. on your tv, in

your car, on your digital radio and now on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. back now to patrick christys . patrick christys. >> well , the prime minister says >> well, the prime minister says he's determined to stop people coming to the uk illegally as a matter of fairness for the british people. rishi sunak was speaking to journalists for the first time since returning from his holiday. he talks about fighting inflation, the cost of living crisis, bringing down interest rates now we're going to have a chat soon about whether or not you think all of this is a distraction from the bigger issue, which is just net migration whole. and we'll migration as a whole. and we'll also then having robust also then be having a robust discussion , no doubt, discussion, no doubt, with an individual who wants to rejoin the european union thinks we should okay, fair should never left. okay, fair enough. should never left. okay, fair enough . but it's relation to enough. but it's in relation to whether the eu will whether or not the eu will actually be helping out actually be helping us out to return who cross the return people who cross the channel illegally . but before we channel illegally. but before we get stuck right into that, i believe we might actually be

able to listen rishi able to listen to what rishi sunak earlier when he was sunak said earlier when he was talking about fairness for the british about what's british taxpayer, about what's been in the channel been going on in the channel >> look, what's happened here is it's that we through >> look, what's happened here is it'sthe that we through >> look, what's happened here is it'sthe checksrve through >> look, what's happened here is it'sthe checks and through >> look, what's happened here is it'sthe checks and procedures to all the checks and procedures to ensure the well—being and health of the people who are being housed on barge. but taking housed on the barge. but taking a step back, what is this about this fairness. this is about fairness. it's about unfair this, in fact, about the unfair this, in fact, of british taxpayers forking out 5 or £6 million a day to house illegal migrants in hotels up and down the country . with all and down the country. with all the pressure that puts on local communities . we've got to find communities. we've got to find alternatives that's alternatives to that. that's what is about. that's what the barge is about. that's why it. why we're committed to it. but more just more fundamentally, we've just got people coming here got to stop people coming here in the first illegally. in the first place illegally. we've laws that we've passed tough new laws that when into force, will when they come into force, will enable us do that. we're enable to us do that. and we're already seeing this year already seeing numbers this year are been in are lower than they've been in previous that's first are lower than they've been in previythat's that's first are lower than they've been in previythat's happened. first are lower than they've been in previythat's happened. look,'st time that's happened. look, i know a way to go on know there's a long way to go on this, am determined to fix this, but i am determined to fix this, but i am determined to fix this problem. and are making this problem. and we are making progress. and people be progress. and people can be reassured keep reassured that we will keep at it okay. talking about >> okay. so he's talking about fairness there. and gb news

political editor christopher hope chopper, what hope joins me now. chopper, what about fairness of british about the fairness of british taxpayers and british people in general when it comes to net migration? is this boats and the barge stuff just a big distraction? >> for many, it's a symptom of a bigger concern about net migration when you've got over half a million coming here through legal routes as family members of those who have come here that's allowed. here already, that's allowed. see that's allowed by by this government. that's a choice that's been made by politicians . the issue with the small boats crisis, i think, is for many is a symptom of a wider problem. and that's why it's so but almost almost that is a big issue . £6 million almost almost that is a big issue. £6 million a almost almost that is a big issue . £6 million a year, a day issue. £6 million a year, a day on hotels. that's over a couple of billion a year in a bill for hotel bills and other other associated costs . it's a huge associated costs. it's a huge amount of money, but there is a debate. i think that we will we will have going through the election do we allow or election of why do we allow or should we allow or maybe we should we allow or maybe we should allow have a debate about it. half a million or so arriving net legally on boris

johnson's watch when he was prime minister? problem there prime minister? no problem there with him. and that what with him. and is that what people with him. and is that what peoite with him. and is that what peo it is interesting that >> it is interesting that when those net migration numbers landed and it was quite eye—watering that was in the for news a bit. i did a special on it from boston in lincolnshire, which is one of the it's a perfect little microcosm actually, of the way that mass migration has impacted britain . migration has impacted britain. but then it was out of the news quite quickly after that, and we're banging small we're banging on about small boats and we're banging on about a talking about a barge and we're talking about migrant and we're talking migrant hotels and we're talking about . and there is about rwanda. and there is potentially case to be said potentially a case to be said that, yeah, the bigger issue is actually migration . actually the legal migration. and he doesn't really want to talk because a lot of talk about that because a lot of the forecasts economic the ons forecasts economic growth is reliant on a number of net migration to come here. >> and that's why there's always a battle, often with the treasury and the home office. and i interviewed suella braverman, secretary braverman, the home secretary for my podcast last year. she said she would love to get to a net figure of tens of thousands a year, not many times more than

that. and that's why i think there's debate within there's a debate within the heart tory about heart of the tory party about what levels what is acceptable levels of migration and why are people . migration and why are people. the benefits bill is large and not people able to able to get benefit bill not have to work. we shouldn't be. the point of brexit was to not bring in more migration migration and then allow people sit on on allow people to sit on on benefits, try and get them back to the party to work. is the is the party kind of the worst of kind of having the worst of both worlds way brexit in worlds in a way since brexit in terms legal terms of migration, both legal and illegal? >> just picking up on something that suella that you said there about suella braverman, to say braverman, is it fair to say that suella braverman was that if suella braverman was prime minister, we would be out of the echr and we would be doing everything regardless of what our economy looked like on a spreadsheet in terms of growth to get net migration down to the tens of thousands? is that the chasm that we've got now between prime minister and home sack? chasm that we've got now between prirthere�*iister and home sack? chasm that we've got now between prirthere ister and home sack? chasm that we've got now between prirthere is talk nd home sack? chasm that we've got now between prirthere is talk of home sack? chasm that we've got now between prirthere is talk of that e sack? chasm that we've got now between prirthere is talk of that and ck? >> there is talk of that and there was talk. i mean, every prime minister has showed some leg every prime leg on at every tour. prime minister on minister showed some leg on withdrawal going withdrawal from the echr going back cameron's days, back to david cameron's days,

there a minority there was a there's a minority of cabinets who were in favour of cabinets who were in favour of that. we that last week of that. we saw that last week reported suella braverman would have the cabinet with have to carry the cabinet with her. and there's of lawyers have to carry the cabinet with hethere there's of lawyers have to carry the cabinet with hethere therwould of lawyers in there who would not countenance would say to countenance it. i would say to talk that is whenever talk against that is whenever you these trips with the you go on these trips with the prime minister prime minister prime minister or prime minister overseas, issues overseas, one of the big issues we as a country is overseas, one of the big issues we countries as a country is overseas, one of the big issues we countries humanyuntry is overseas, one of the big issues we countries human rightsis other countries human rights records . and then for us to records. and then for us to withdraw the echr is a bad withdraw from the echr is a bad look into nationally on pr look into nationally on a pr level. you take away all level. when you take away all the migration we do the kind of migration we do stand for something which is human rights on a global stage and to withdraw from that is very damaging. i think. and that's i often it that's why i think often it falls level. falls down on that level. i think , you know, what they're think, you know, what they're doing is they're testing the doing now is they're testing the bounds what are in bounds of what the rules are in court. and maybe that's as far as they go now. but as they can go for now. but i think no question think there's no question it could issue next election. >> i'm just going to talk about the anyway, my the topic next anyway, with my next guest european union next guest of the european union not helpful, not being particularly helpful, obviously, to obviously, when it comes to returning migrants. what returning channel migrants. what was the situation before? it's worth casting our minds back to this different lifetime. that was pre brexit era. there

was the pre brexit era. there was the pre brexit era. there was a migrant crisis then. most of that was around mainland europe. what was the return situation then ? what was the situation then? what was the legal issues ? then people had to legal issues? then people had to supposedly stay in the first country that they apply for. >> right? to remain in the place they first land. but of course they're moving eu , they're moving through the eu, they're moving through the eu, the continental europe and then coming across to uk, but not coming across to the uk, but not in the same numbers. and that's coming across to the uk, but not in trbeing e numbers. and that's coming across to the uk, but not in trbeing made bers. and that's coming across to the uk, but not in trbeing made more and that's coming across to the uk, but not in trbeing made more difficult 's now being made more difficult post was no post brexit because there was no agreement agreed time of agreement agreed at the time of brexit. now the talk is brexit. so now the talk now is will a returns will there be a returns agreement or and to agreement or not? and to reignite course reignite it. but of course france is saying enough, france is saying fair enough, that an eu issue, eu, uk that it's an eu issue, a eu, uk issue , and it may come up when issue, and it may come up when they look again the of they look again at the terms of they look again at the terms of the withdrawal agreement in a couple of 2 or 3 years time. >> thank you very, much. >> thank you very, very much. chop as ever . >> thank you very, very much. chop as ever. our chop a great stuff as ever. our political editor there, christopher joined christopher hope now i'm joined now richard who is now by richard morley, who is the of the rejoin the deputy leader of the rejoin the deputy leader of the rejoin the eu party. great stuff . thank the eu party. great stuff. thank you very, very much. good to have yeah, i have you on the show. yeah, i mean, look , does the european mean, look, does the european union actually have moral duty

union actually have a moral duty to work with us when it comes to returning channel migrants or are they just playing politics? >> well, the european union has a considerable problem at the moment, as indeed do we, as indeed does the whole of the world with this issue . i think world with this issue. i think christopher hope was very , very christopher hope was very, very correct in what he was saying, that this is a major issue which deserves a lot of attention because it's not going to end simply because we stop the migrants . this this problem of migrants. this this problem of mass migration is caused by all sorts of factors. >> but climate change has a big influence on that , which is influence on that, which is going to mean a huge movement of people over the next ten, 15 years, which is going to make the current levels look very high. so by that , get back to high. so by that, get back to your question . yes, good. your question. yes, good. >> should the european union actually be doing more? well, the european union is doing everything that it can do. >> and what we must do is work with the european union to

assist in its efforts to do something about this crisis , something about this crisis, which means international action, global action to stop the migrants at source . the migrants at source. >> because unless we build lives for them in their countries of origin, they will continue to come over and over and over. >> you see, that's an interesting point. now that that is an interesting point because there for there is an argument for that. i don't necessarily agree with it, but i can understand the argument my would argument for it. my case would be should europeans pay be why should europeans pay to make worse countries better? why didn't they just build them themselves in the first place and better? are we and do better? well, why are we paying and do better? well, why are we paying it ? paying for it? >> course, remember >> well, of course, remember that europeans are that the europeans are responsible much for the responsible very much for the conditions that south america and africa and asia find themselves in at the moment, namely, as a result of the colonial occupation that was undertaken by all europe or most european countries in the past. >> and they have economically suffered as a result. and so it's not surprising that today we are faced with the sort of backwash of those circumstances

and we are faced with the consequences. >> well, what was with respect. >> well, what was with respect. >> yeah, with respect. what was rural africa like before the brits turned up? i mean, it was a bustling metropolis. was it? >> oh, but remember that britain was leading the way in the industrial revolution and that the industrial revolution globally has created climate change and climate change is one of the most significant factors in mass migration in do you realise, for example , that the realise, for example, that the syrian war right earlier in this century was a result of mass migration within syria because of climate change, right. >> so should we not have had an industrial. so, so we are we should not have had an industrial revolution in, in your ? your view? >> course we should >> well, of course we should have done, but we've got to deal with consequences it and with the consequences of it and face response abilities. >> i know that for all of us, the mass migration is a difficult problem . here in difficult problem. here in germany, we are faced with the same issues as you are in

britain. we have immigrants all around us and it's causing the same problems. it's a global problem which britain should be part ticipating in as a matter of what what you said that you said that having immigrants all around you is causing problems. >> what problems? >> what problems? >> well, it's causing economic problems. it's causing in particular, housing problems. there isn't enough housing or doctors or schools to be able to facilitate a sudden intake of hundreds of thousands and probably millions of immigrants into a nation . the system simply into a nation. the system simply can't cope with such a vast input so suddenly, and housing. >> why did you do it? >> why did you do it? >> which is everybody? everywhere. >> i'm sorry . why did you do it >> i'm sorry. why did you do it then ? then? >> why did who do what? >> why did who do what? >> why did the european union let it happen? why did the likes of angela merkel allow a million people from the middle east just in caused all these in if it's caused all these problems that everyone was

saying, going to be the saying, this is going to be the problem, this what's problem, this is what's happening and now happening and you did it and now you're dealing with the consequences. now want consequences. and now you want us pay to rebuild us to go and pay to rebuild their countries, more their countries, to stop more people is something which >> this is not something which can be so easily controlled as we can see ourselves. we cannot stop the mass movement of millions of people marching because of economic need , not because of economic need, not with open borders, losing their land. >> we cannot stop it. >> we cannot stop it. >> so we might attempt to shut the borders. we might attempt to sink the boats, but we still cannot stop the movement of people to fight and a better life where they think they can get it. and england is particularly popular, of course, because of the language . many because of the language. many migrants across the world know english. to some extent. they don't know german, they don't know french. so they come to england because of the language . one thing, if . and one other thing, if england wants to limit immigration, it should introduce what we have here in europe, and thatis what we have here in europe, and that is the national identity card, which course means in

card, which of course means in england. without it you can convince an employer that you're legal. and so therefore he know about that. that's impossible . about that. that's impossible. >> no, no, i think i think a lot. i think i think a lot of people would agree would agree with so just kind with that. so just just to kind of just go full circle back to whether not then european whether or not then the european union now be union and britain should now be getting their heads together and working on a unified immigration, an illegal immigration, an illegal immigration plan, because where we are today is we understand it is that we've given £500 million to the french. emmanuel macron has said if you want to negotiate with us more , negotiate with us any more, you're have to do it you're going to have to do it with der you're going to have to do it with has der you're going to have to do it with has no der you're going to have to do it with has no plans der you're going to have to do it with has no plans to der you're going to have to do it with has no plans to do ier you're going to have to do it with has no plans to do that leyen has no plans to do that and carry on and we're not and so we carry on and we're not sending anyone back to the eu. you that we should be now you think that we should be now working together, would working together, which would require cooperation some require cooperation and some wiggle from the european wiggle room from the european union well as us. obviously union as well as us. obviously >> most certainly. i completely agree with you. we should be working with the eu and i've been talking to some contacts in the german foreign office this

morning and they, of course, tell me that the reason why this memo business has come up is because it's not that the european union doesn't want to negotiate with with this matter on britain . it's the fact that on britain. it's the fact that it cannot until it has unanimous support within its own structure for the policies it needs to negotiate with. that is the problem that europe has that not everybody in europe is in agreement. >> and is that is that with respect with respect, is that not is that not one of the major problems with the european union that we have now an urgent crisis that needs addressing and it isn't being addressed because, as you've just said, they can't agree with each other i >> -- >> yes, because it is because our absence from the european stage has meant that one of the ideas that should be perhaps more prevalent in europe is not a unanimous approval for such things, but a major rmt approval

for such things as britain could have led the way in that movement. the absence of britain in europe has weaker , and both in europe has weaker, and both britain and europe and as a as a unit, as a continent now so much weaker than before . weaker than before. >> okay. well, i must say i really, really enjoy it. i'm getting shouted out to move on. but i would actually have happily kept this conversation going for the next 50 minutes. but you very much, but thank you very, very much, richard. a pleasure to richard. it was a pleasure to talk and the best. richard. it was a pleasure to taliright. and the best. richard. it was a pleasure to taliright. richard the best. richard. it was a pleasure to taliright. richard the bewho all right. richard morley, who is of the is the deputy leader of the rejoin party. we've rejoin the eu party. we've covered quite anyway, covered quite a lot anyway, loads story our loads more on this story on our website. gbnews.com. it's loads more on this story on our wetfastest gbnews.com. it's loads more on this story on our wetfastest growing's.com. it's loads more on this story on our wetfastest growing national's the fastest growing national news website country. news website in the country. it's all the best analysis, news website in the country. it's opinionthe best analysis, news website in the country. it's opinion and)est analysis, news website in the country. it's opinion and the analysis, news website in the country. it's opinion and the latest.is, big opinion and the latest breaking news. well yesterday i told you that nhs employees could be prosecuted if they got someone's pronouns wrong. today it turns out that the same staff are being told that colonialism is to blame for the gender divide in society. what on earth has this got to do with the nhs? patrick christie's on gb news, britain's news .

patrick christie's on gb news, britain's news. channel earlier on gb news radio today is the second anniversary of the taliban taking over kabul as the british army's time in afghanistan came to a rather chaotic end, 457 british troops were killed, 7500 were injured following that invasion , which, following that invasion, which, of course, started in 2001. but now, with the country in the iron grip of the taliban once more and of course, women's rights seriously curtailed, one wonders, was it all worth it? i'm joined now by andy allen, who served in the british army in afghanistan in he sadly had to have both legs amputated to have both his legs amputated above he hurt above the knee when he was hurt by an improvised explosive device in 2008. look, thank you very much for coming on and for giving us your views this giving us your views on this topic . was it all worth it? topic. was it all worth it? >> i think fundamentally ,

>> i think fundamentally, patrick, we have to go back first, and i can only give you my perspective of the operation at hand . in a few minutes on the at hand. in a few minutes on the second anniversary of the taliban takeover of kabul, we will ask a senior british army officer who served in afghanistan was it all worth it? >> but in the very latest woke war, nhs staff are being told that colonialism is to blame for imposing the male female divide in society . yeah, let me repeat in society. yeah, let me repeat this. nhs staff are being told that colonial ism is to blame for the male female divide in

society and not only this, but health trust document obtained by the daily mail. also state that adults who take hormone therapy are going through puberty and that men who identify as women can be lesbians. it's nice to see that they've got their priorities straight. the mail found guidance published internally by both sheffield and university hospitals at sussex nhs foundation trust, which states globally many cultures recognise more than two genders. it adds the following. as with sexuality in the west, binary categories dominate . it goes on to say in dominate. it goes on to say in modern era western history these have been imposed on a human experience which is not binary. through colonial incursion , when through colonial incursion, when the values of one culture were imposed on another. culture the lancashire teaching hospitals nhs foundation trust also says that gender identity is unrelated covid to sexual orientation , adding an orientation, adding an individual may change from a man to a woman and may also be a lesbian. good well, there we go.

let's get the view now of gb news presenter darren grimes, who today might be a lesbian. darren, are you all right? >> you never know , right? >> you never know, right? >> you never know, right? >> you never know, right? >> you wake up one day, patrick, you decide to be a woman and they'll put you on a female only ward in the nhs. that's the crazy times that we're living in. but patrick, you mentioned the priorities there. you've just been covering in the news bulletins that the tax payers coughing another quarter of coughing up another quarter of a million trying to whittle down those never ending waiting lists . and then you hear all of the reports on junior doctors that say won't accept a pay say they won't accept a pay increase from a tory government, but they are more than happy to do it from an snp government. and then obviously you've got all of the fact that the nhs in general is a system that's frankly nosedive and faster than a dodgy pub dart. patrick so to talk about all of this right now is negligent in the extreme. people are dying unnecessarily

and it actually it really it gets my goat actually because the nhs right it should stand for the national national health service, as we all know. but lately it's more like a nonsensical hipster stories, right? all of these focusing on colonialism, old empire , guilt, colonialism, old empire, guilt, genden colonialism, old empire, guilt, gender, ideology instead of patient care and keeping people alive . that's what a health care system. >> that's the thing, darren, isn't it? all of these issues that people are dealing with now about colonialism and what that means for the patriarchy and i would argue as well, means for the patriarchy and i would argue as well , whether or would argue as well, whether or not a man who has transitioned into being a woman can now be a lesbian. i mean, good grief, these are the kind of things that you should be worrying about when everything else is sorted, you haven't got sorted, when you haven't got record cancer waiting lists , record cancer waiting lists, when you haven't got people struggling to see a gp, when you haven't people , know, haven't got people, you know, a staffing shortage, all of that. those the things people those are the things that people should on. it brings those are the things that people sh(comfort on. it brings those are the things that people sh(comfort to on. it brings those are the things that people sh(comfort to anyone|. it brings those are the things that people sh(comfort to anyone tot brings those are the things that people sh(comfort to anyone to know1s no comfort to anyone to know that at some point someone

stands in front of a projector and preaches to nhs staff about colonial all lesbians. >> absolutely. it's the kind of stuff that you would expect from a wacky university student union group meeting, you know, where everyone's some kind of organic vegan and talking about the cons of capital ism and all the rest of capital ism and all the rest of it. i mean, it's totally insane, but the idea that you know, blokes who fancy a day as doris get tucked into a female only ward or midwives are told, patrick, that the word mother is past its sell by date and that the cherry on top for me is 999 operators is made crisis as we've just said. check in if you're a he she or a z. and if i'm keelan over patrick i want an ambulance, not a sodden grammar lesson on pronouns as it's just insane . and if the nhs it's just insane. and if the nhs as an institution can't even

. this is the group and if they can't tell you what a woman is, that's the problem. i also do think you ring them up, don't you? you go, yeah, you you? you go, hello. yeah, you go. you here or. no, go. right. are you here or. no, i'm are a he or a she i'm dying. are you a he or a she or are they. no i'm dying. that's problem. can you help that's the problem. can you help me, anyway, we'll be me, please? but anyway, we'll be talking a bit more about that later loads still to later on. loads more still to come between now and 6:00. exactly. the exactly. two years after the taliban took afghanistan taliban took over afghanistan again, i will ask a former commander of the british forces in was the in the country what was the point of our two decades over there? did it actually achieve anything right now, it's anything but right now, it's your headlines with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> the top stories this hour. norfolk and suffolk police have

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a chaotic end, primarily a rather chaotic end, primarily in my view, because of what joe biden did. but there we go. whilst of attention of whilst much of the attention of the world's media was on the political the political fallout from the withdrawal, we mustn't forget the 457 british troops that were killed and the 7500 or so who were injured . following the were injured. following the invasion of afghanistan in 2001. but now the country is back in the iron grip of the taliban. we spent at least £30 billion over there. the americans spent about £390 billion in total . women's £390 billion in total. women's rights, of course, non—existing . we've got another afghan refugee crisis, haven't we? i mean , look, was it all worth it mean, look, was it all worth it , really? i'm joined now by the former commander of the british forces in afghanistan. it's colonel richard kemp. thank you very much for joining colonel richard kemp. thank you very much forjoining us. how do you feel on this day then, two years on from that white flag of the taliban really being hoisted back above kabul? >> well, it was a white flag being raised by nato and the us

i >> -- >> but two years ago, unfortunately , the question as unfortunately, the question as to whether it was all worth it, it was all worth it. >> we paid an enormous price for our operations in afghanistan , our operations in afghanistan, but they were worth it. >> and let's not forget the reason we went in there in the first place, which was nine divided 11, nine over 11 was divided by 11, nine over 11 was the worst terrorist attack in the worst terrorist attack in the the world. more the history of the world. more british people were killed in 911 been killed on any 911 than have been killed on any other attack before or other terrorist attack before or since . and something had be since. and something had to be done about it. and whole done about it. and the whole reason for us being in afghanistan to prevent afghanistan was to prevent something like that happening again , being launched again, being launched from afghanistan and over the 20 year campaign that was achieved. so the soldiers who lost their lives there and the many other people lost their lives as well. uh it it was for a purpose. and that purpose was to keep the rest of the world safe from the taliban and al—qaeda in afghanistan . khan and so it afghanistan. khan and so it succeeded . and it could have succeeded. and it could have continued to succeed. and i have my doubts as to whether it will

whether afghanistan will again become a safe haven for terrorism. but it could have been had we not lowered or raised a white flag two years ago under president biden's misjudgement and pulled out completely . we wouldn't need to completely. we wouldn't need to have kept thousands of troops there just enough, enough troops. us british, others to give the support to the afghan national security forces that they needed . they needed. >> do you think we'll end up back in afghanistan ? back in afghanistan? >> i very much doubt it. not not in my lifetime , probably not in in my lifetime, probably not in the foreseeable future . and the the foreseeable future. and the trouble is, the trouble is we can't do a great deal about what's going on in afghanistan. yeah, a year ago, eamonn al zawahiri, the head of al—qaeda at the time, was taken out by a us strike in kabul who he was there being harboured by the taliban, despite their assurances that they no longer had any connections with al—qaeda. we know they do . al—qaeda. we know they do. they're still there. the problem still exists , but without a still exists, but without a

presence there, any form of presence there, any form of presence there, any form of presence there or anywhere near , it's much more difficult for us to deal with those problems when they arise. and there's much bigger strategic implications as well of that withdrawal, much even bigger than afghanistan. he set afghanistan aside. i believe that the reason that russia invaded ukraine last year was because of biden's pull out of afghanistan , and it basically afghanistan, and it basically gave a green flag to biden to go into into ukraine. putin and to, you know, knowing that the us from what from all appearances, the us no longer had the strength to stand up for its friends and allies, for 157 british lives lost in afghanistan, around 7500 dead in injured, 111,000 afghan civilians. >> i think i'm right in saying 64,000 dead and a bit afghan army and military personnel as well . so thousands of

army and military personnel as well. so thousands of us soldiers did really did they die for anything? i mean, i know i know that you're saying that we had 20 years of a terror attack like nine divided by 11 not being launched from afghanistan or harboured from or by people harboured from afghanistan . okay. yeah. all afghanistan. okay. yeah. all right. but in the grand right. but but in the grand scheme of things, now , is it is scheme of things, now, is it is it difficult to justify to the, you the mothers of those you know, the mothers of those dead british soldiers, do you think that it was worth think today that it was worth it, really ? it, really? >> well, i don't think it is difficult to justify that. i think it's self—evident that the world was kept safe from the haven of afghanistan as it existed in 2001. and we saw the 911 attacks as a result of that. so i think that's easy to justify. i think what is much more justify, i'm more difficult to justify, i'm not saying, by the way, that there weren't huge mistakes made and couldn't been done and it couldn't have been done differently because could and differently because it could and the could have the entire campaign could have been handled, think, in been handled, i think, in different ways. that that different ways. but that that aside, it's much more difficult to justify our abandonment of

afghanistan . and in many ways, afghanistan. and in many ways, that was a betrayal of all those lives that were lost over that campaign by simply upping stumps and leaving the country and leaving the afghans to their own devices . devices. >> well, it was the manner of it as well, wasn't it? i mean, that final kind of suicide bomb explosion evacuation on explosion on the evacuation on the way out, really just kind of drew a horrible, humiliating thing. deadly line under proceedings it didn't see. and those images , which no doubt those images, which no doubt you've seen as well, of the remnants of human flesh lying in a sewer by an airport, essentially , people desperate essentially, people desperate people have been there queuing for, however long to try to get on one of those few flights out. and the planes taking off, people to the wheels people clinging to the wheels and to the ground. and and falling to the ground. and i just thought, good grief. and do you think joe biden's you think that's joe biden's fault ? fault? >> think entirely biden's >> i think it's entirely biden's fault. he wanted to be able to claim he'd ended the never ending war in afghanistan and

made the decision to pull out without without really appreciating and understanding what the consequences of that would be. and you just have to look at circumstance as look at the circumstance as you've graphically you've just graphically described , of that withdrawal . described, of that withdrawal. and you can see that it was a complete fiasco and a disaster. he he , i think, bears the full he he, i think, bears the full responsibility. of course , responsibility. of course, britain must take some share of it as well. having said that, because we'd invested a lot there, we had a lot of responsibility there and perhaps we could have done more to persuade the americans to stay. we wouldn't have been able to stay ourselves on our own. there's no possibility of that with state of our armed with the state of our armed forces today. but we could we could possibly have done more to persuade americans to not persuade the americans to not pull out. but the truth is, i think that we also wanted to get out. i think although the british government claims it at the claimed that it wanted the time claimed that it wanted to put together a nato coalition without the americans to say that, i don't think that there's any truth in that. i think we were just as keen to cut and run

as biden was. but the as as biden was. but the ultimate responsibility for doing it was joe biden, because without it, without the american presence, then we couldn't really you know, it couldn't really you know, it couldn't really have continued as it was just just one more quick one with you, if that's all right. >> well, i've got you. i mean, with you, if that's all right. >>yourl, i've got you. i mean, with you, if that's all right. >>your experience'ou. i mean, with you, if that's all right. >>your experience 'ou. ithere,. in your experience over there, you of you know, former commander of british forces in afghanistan, the are the taliban are where they are now, in residence . is now, which is in residence. is it of time before we do it a matter of time before we do start to see attacks again launched from afghanistan? i mean, did we did we just prevent that for 20 years and now it's going happen again, do you think? >> wu think? >> i would say there's >> i think i would say there's every that will, >> i think i would say there's every that'shat will, >> i think i would say there's every that's islamic ll, >> i think i would say there's every that's islamic state, whether that's islamic state, which has got an increasing presence in afghanistan, whether it's al—qaeda resurgent, whether it's al—qaeda resurgent, whether it's other jihadists operating with the blessing of the taliban . i think i think, you know, there's every probably we will see that perhaps the one thing that will stop it is china to china now has a huge amount of influence. and control of afghanistan and has bought up and is buying up a lot of the

natural resources . and it may be natural resources. and it may be in china's interest not to allow the taliban to launch attacks from there or to allow attacks to be launched from there. >> i mean, this is this is another point . we could, again, another point. we could, again, talk all day about this. i mean, the was left in our the vacuum that was left in our withdrawal, etcetera, has just been which is been filled by china, which is frankly not a great thing, especially when at the especially when you look at the influence they've got in places like powerhouse influence they've got in places like are. powerhouse influence they've got in places like are. there erhouse influence they've got in places like are. there we ouse influence they've got in places like are. there we go.e influence they've got in places like (thank there we go.e influence they've got in places like (thank you there we go.e influence they've got in places like (thank you verye we go.e influence they've got in places like (thank you verye we ggreat look. thank you very much. great to you. it's colonel to talk to you. it's colonel richard kemp is the former commander forces commander of the british forces in on loads to in afghanistan on loads to unpack about afghanistan , unpack about afghanistan, doesn't but he thinks it was doesn't it? but he thinks it was worth it in the sense that it blocked attack being blocked a terror attack being harboured from afghanistan for 20 years. but unfortunately, thatis 20 years. but unfortunately, that is now likely to come back around again. different very different story. now, if you live in stoke on trent by beware. that's right. yes an animal that looks a lot like a cougaris animal that looks a lot like a cougar is out on the loose. the jokes write themselves here. but is a wild animal or is it actually just a big domestic

cat? have we now finally got proof that there is actually a big cat on the loose in stoke patrick christys on gb views britain's news

here on gb news, the people's. channel >> we've been hearing this for years that big cats are prowling our great british countryside . our great british countryside. and it started with the beast of bodmin . more than 60 reported bodmin. more than 60 reported sightings of a black panther like creature around bodmin moor

in cornwall . well, the in cornwall. well, the government in 1995 even ordered a search for the beast. alas no evidence of our feline friend was found, but now is the evidence of prowling big cats. it's actually fallen into our laps. frankly, it's being called the beast of smallthorne doesn't have a great ring to it, does it? that which is, of course, near stoke on trent in staffordshire news. staffordshire and gb news. viewers now see the very viewers can now see the very photo which some claim is the best photo of a british big cat ever to exist. the picture was unearthed by a member of staff at the centre of 14 zoology in devon. they came across it whilst going through archives for a documentary film. it's been sent in by someone who had noted that the photo had been taken in smallthorne in march . taken in smallthorne in march. but there we go . however, the but there we go. however, the documentary maker is convinced that the photo isn't fake and shows the paws ability of a panther like creature roaming in staffordshire here. who would

have thought, hey, i mean, i don't know about you, but i've always loved the idea of there being cats out and about being big cats out and about there. the there. i've told the story a couple of times, but my news editor at my local paper once couple of times, but my news editor me �*ny local paper once couple of times, but my news editor me �*ny andl paper once couple of times, but my news editor me�*ny andl papforynce couple of times, but my news editor me�*ny andl papforynybig made me go and look for a big cat alone in the woods and told me, come back until you've me, don't come back until you've found what i found it. but what was i supposed to done? like put supposed to have done? like put a headlock and dragged a lynx in a headlock and dragged it and it back into the studios and just back in and say, look, just come back in and say, look, here there we go. here it is. but there we go. what make of this? you what do you make of this? do you think or think that actually is proof or is just a normal cat is it actually just a normal cat taken from a particular angle? well, in studio well, i'm joined in the studio by dewberry, who will, by michelle dewberry, who will, of course, be following this show tackling show with dewbs& co tackling high like whether high brow things like whether or not panther stoke. high brow things like whether or not we panther stoke. high brow things like whether or not we tornther stoke. high brow things like whether or not we tornthethis stoke. high brow things like whether or notwe tornthethis segment >> we need to call this segment old yeah because old biddy corner. yeah because that's like. feel that's what i feel like. i feel like i'm like this old biddy that's wheeled in. have that's wheeled in. so just have a final rant of a little rant, a final rant of the day. >> we could summarise all of our interactions showing interactions by me showing something going state of something and going state of that. yeah, well, that. michelle yeah, well, i often do look at, often honestly, i do look at, i look at so much in this world, patrick say like, what is patrick and i say like, what is going on in this world? >> world is going mad. it >> this world is going mad. it is, it? i look those is, isn't it? i look at those pictures, and i don't

pictures, though, and i don't believe it. i'm sorry to say you're not a believer. i am not a i don't believe in a believer. i don't believe in stuff don't believe stuff like ufos. i don't believe in ness monster in stuff like loch ness monster and small cats or and these big small cats or whatever they it. whatever they call it. and i just think people get up to trickery. too many trickery. there's too many people on people with too much time on their hands . and you've got their hands. and now you've got advances technology that make advances in technology that make things simple . things very simple. >> well, apparently that's back things very simple. >>2017, , apparently that's back things very simple. >>2017, , apppicture. that's back things very simple. >>2017, , apppicture. so t's back things very simple. >>2017, , apppicture. so yeah,:k in 2017, that picture. so yeah, i mean, the technology, obviously. well well but you know, it's apparently know, it's like apparently we panther so trying determine panther so trying to determine what is real what is fake is what is real and what is fake is going more more going to get more and more difficult, isn't it? >> as technology >> i think as technology progresses as life moves on, progresses and as life moves on, i i videos and all sorts. >> it's terrifying. >> it's terrifying. >> and if you've seen some random field in stoke on trent or wherever and you came to or wherever and you came face to face with that creature, you wouldn't there wouldn't sit there and go, i wouldn't sit there and go, i wouldn't si'ithere and go, wouldn't sit there and go, i wouldn't si'i need and go, need know what i need to do. i need to a photograph. be to take a photograph. you'd be gone, have gone, surely, or i'd have dialled it into the gb news studios. dialled it into the gb news stu�*we'd done a live python >> we'd have done a live python . well, a panther ripped my face off. >> it'd been a ratings success. >> it'd been a ratings success. >> well, there we go. well, i mean, yeah, i mean, literally watching me getting clawed apart

by a big probably patrick, by a big cat, probably patrick, think ratings. okay. now think of the ratings. okay. now one more story for you here. so a called for a health group has called for packaging cereal and yoghurt packaging on cereal and yoghurt to appealing children to be less appealing to children . a group action on sugar . a group called action on sugar . but they're fun at parties, aren't they? have called on popular cereal such as popular cereal brands such as nestle to change nestle and kellogg's to change colourful, child friendly packaging. what a soulless bunch of people this la. now this could obviously be bad news. apparently maybe it could spell the end of the honey monster or tony the tiger. that's a shame because he's great. >> who writes these gigs for you?i >> who writes these gigs for you? i don't know, but i'm going to sack him. >> i'm going sack look, >> i'm going to sack him. look, action has shared action on sugar has shared research is research saying that there is excessive sugar salt. and excessive sugar and salt. and a lot of the packaging that's targeted to as targeted to children as a result, the health group has called products to not called for the products to not be suitable for be marketed as suitable for children michelle, throw children. michelle, i'll throw it right. it's it over to you here. right. it's very, very rare, right, for me to be offended. very, very rare, right, for me to be offe right. okay and i very, very rare, right, for me to be offeright. okay and i can >> sitter right. okay and i can see both sides of i'm not see both sides of this. i'm not a nanny state. i think a fan of nanny state. i think it's absolutely but it's absolutely ludicrous. but since mum , i have since becoming a mum, i have changed my view a little bit on

various different things because pester is real. so pester power is real. so when you go into a supermarket as a man that you don't yet have your children, you perhaps have noficed children, you perhaps have noticed into noticed this. you go into a supermarket like of these supermarket like one of these convenience and you just convenience stores and you just go in. you with a two go in. when you go in with a two year when go in year old. yeah. when you go in with a two year old, the first thing that they have pointing with a two year old, the first thing tithe hey have pointing with a two year old, the first thing tithe door|ave pointing with a two year old, the first thing tithe door is e pointing with a two year old, the first thing tithe door is comics ng against the door is comics magazine , boys toys. then magazine, boys toys. so then when you get these cereals where you've tigers , these you've got these tigers, these things, it is, child things, whatever it is, child karen do, and they'll kick off and then you've got two and then you've got these two year tantrums in the year olds having tantrums in the middle the aisles because middle of the aisles because they this, this and this they want this, this and this and this. >> can't can't and this. >> can't >> you can't you can't put the honey monster out of work to make easier. make your life easier. >> yeah. you wait. right? what we need to is you and i need we need to do is you and i need to this conversation to have this conversation in about you've about ten years time when you've got you've got got your kids, when you've got these kicking these screaming toddlers kicking off. i'll you. these screaming toddlers kicking off. on i'll you. these screaming toddlers kicking off. on reflection, you. these screaming toddlers kicking off. on reflection, do ou. these screaming toddlers kicking off. on reflection, do you look, on reflection, do you think should sacked think we should have just sacked off tiger and just had off tony the tiger and just had a box and you might just a white box and you might just might yes , yes. might say, yes, yes. >> do you not think, though, i mean, can't you just shove an ipad in front of them when you

walk around the shops? >> that makes >> oh, you know, that makes me so and that's what people so sad. and that's what people do. many kids these do. i see so many kids these days they're in prams days and they're in their prams and little babies and and stuff like little babies and they're telly just they're watching like telly just as they're being pushed around in think that's in the pram. and i think that's really like to indoctrinate them >> i'd like to indoctrinate them by only playing my future children videos their children videos of their dad delivering monologues on gb news going delivering monologues on gb news goiiyou could go out hunting for >> you could go out hunting for that or big cat or that small car or big cat or whatever was. it be whatever it was. it could be like could like their like you could be like their here trying to out big here trying to sniff out the big dogs. what we do with my dogs. but what we do with my little i recommend it to you little one i recommend it to you all supermarket. ideally little one i recommend it to you all takesupermarket. ideally little one i recommend it to you all takesuperkid ket. ideally little one i recommend it to you all takesuperkid ket. ifeally little one i recommend it to you all takesuperkid ket. if youy don't take your kid and if you have get them to get involved have to get them to get involved in shopping but avoid cereal. >> am very sorry >> i am very sorry i've had so much talking about much fun talking about this. i've chance to you i've not had a chance to ask you what's show what's coming up on your show and are out of time. so and now we are out of time. so you're going to have to tune in and up and watch michelle dewberry. up next it's going next with dewbs& co. it's going to great. i hate to be great. great. i hate myself . myself. >> looks like things are heating up, next, boilers proud up, but next, boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello, much of the uk are enjoying some pretty fine weather this week. lots of

sunshine around. yes, there will be a few showers here and there, but will be dry and but most places will be dry and feeling sunshine feeling warm in that sunshine as well. look at the pressure well. we look at the pressure pattern, high pattern, then you can see high pressure really continuing to build west. that's build in from the west. that's what's increasingly build in from the west. that's what dry increasingly build in from the west. that's what dry and increasingly build in from the west. that's what dry and incrweather fine, dry and sunny weather across still few across the country. still a few showers towards north—east showers towards the north—east closer area of low closer to that area of low pressure, though. here's a picture. through tuesday picture. then through tuesday evening , then as evening and overnight, then as you a lot places you can see, a lot of places will still will be dry overnight. still a few across parts few showers across parts of scotland, north—east england. these fade away we these tending to fade away as we head night and head through the night and actually for much of england, wales, ireland, will wales, northern ireland, we will see largely clear skies developing that developing overnight and that will lead or miss 1 or will lead to one or miss 1 or 2 mist and fog patches also will lead to one or miss 1 or 2 mist anfairly patches also will lead to one or miss 1 or 2 mist anfairly chillyes also will lead to one or miss 1 or 2 mist anfairly chilly as also will lead to one or miss 1 or 2 mist anfairly chilly as welllso turning fairly chilly as well in some spots. but in towns some rural spots. but in towns and temperatures holding some rural spots. but in towns and to temperatures holding some rural spots. but in towns and to �*degrees.jres holding some rural spots. but in towns and to “degrees. iss holding some rural spots. but in towns and to “degrees. is your ding up 10 to 13 degrees. is your overnight lows. so under those clear skies, we can have a pretty start much of pretty fine start for much of the first on the country first thing on wednesday morning. of wednesday morning. a lot of sunshine, particularly across england, wales, northern ireland, more cloud, though, continuing a gain scotland with a gain 1 or 2 showers actually for of showers and actually for much of the most places will be the day, most places will be dry. said, still the risk dry. like i said, still the risk of an isolated shower across england wales, further england and wales, still further showers and northeast scotland and northeast england. but most will dry fine

but most places will be dry fine and 26 degrees but most places will be dry fine and for 26 degrees but most places will be dry fine and for london, 26 degrees but most places will be dry fine and for london, low degrees but most places will be dry fine and for london, low 20s rees but most places will be dry fine and for london, low 20s fors there for london, low 20s for scotland and northern ireland. we look ahead into thursday . we look ahead into thursday. then again, that largely dry theme looks set to continue with clear for many areas, some clear skies for many areas, some sunshine towards sunshine particularly towards the and the north—west the west and the north—west a bit more cloud towards the east coast, again coast, but again in that sunshine warm, warmer sunshine feeling warm, warmer still as we head into friday. but with an increasing still as we head into friday. but ofth an increasing still as we head into friday. but of showersin increasing still as we head into friday. but of showers and creasing risk of showers and thunderstorms . thunderstorms. >> looks like things are heating up. boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on .

the nhs. so something for you to ponder tonight is privatisation. inevit able or not? would it be a bad thing? certainly, we are told that it would. is that realistic or not? and brexit? i don't know what's going on in this world, but apparently half of us now want