reveal the number of can reveal the number of migrants crossing the english channel on small boats. this year has now passed 17,000, almost 500 people on board several small boats were taken to dover harbour earlier on today after arriving in the early hours of this morning . uk early hours of this morning. uk border force spent the day on what they're calling red alert dunng what they're calling red alert during what's been an extremely busy time for migrant activity . busy time for migrant activity. a man has been arrested on suspicion of collecting information likely to be useful to terrorists following the psni data breach. the 39 year old man has been detained following a search in lurgan in county , search in lurgan in county, armagh. he's now being questioned in belfast. last week. the details of 10,000 police officers and staff were published online by mistake , published online by mistake, followed by a second breach relating to stolen documents and a laptop . a member of staff has a laptop. a member of staff has been dismissed and the metropolitan police are investigating after a number of items from the british museum in

london were found to be missing, stolen or damaged . in stolen or damaged. in a statement, the museum said this afternoon that the items included gold jewellery, semi precious stones and glass dating from the 15th to the 19th century. the museum has described them as small pieces not recently on public display and were mainly used for research and academic work. it's launched its own independent review of security following the incident . economists say the uk incident. economists say the uk still faces a very real risk of falling into recession, despite today's drop in inflation. the prime minister says today's inflation figures, which doesn't include housing costs like mortgage payments, for example, prove that the government's plan is working . a leading think is working. a leading think tank, though, has warned that rising interest rates could cause the economy to contract . cause the economy to contract. latest figures from the office for national statistics found consumer price index inflation or cpi, dropped to 6.8% during the year to july.

or cpi, dropped to 6.8% during the year to july . and a comedy the year to july. and a comedy show featuring the comedy writer graham linehan that was cancelled at the edinburgh fringe festival has now found a new venue ticket holders are going to be informed of the new location for tomorrow's show shortly before it begins . shortly before it begins. speaking to gb news earlier on today , graham linehan said he today, graham linehan said he thought the days of comedians being silenced for their views were over . we re ove r. >> were over. >> they could have given me a chance to exit the gig and allow the other acts to perform. they could have done it without defaming me on their instagram post as a bigot, which is the first thing these people always do. so, you know , unfortunately, do. so, you know, unfortunately, we are we are beginning legal proceedings before i go, a quick weather warning for you. >> a thunderstorm is set to hit parts of the uk. in fact, a yellow wind warning has been issued for the west of wales with storms expected to hit late on friday evening. sweeping

right across the country into the early hours of saturday. but it isn't all bad news. those clouds are expected to clear in time to give us a sunny weekend . this is gb news across the uk on your tv , in your car, on your on your tv, in your car, on your digital radio, and now on your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news. channel >> well, we're through 17,000 people across the english channel people across the english channel, so far this year. a calm day has hundreds in dover. and in a moment, we'll go and join mark white, who is down there in dover docks. but we're literally being mocked literally being openly mocked and laughed at. let's have a look at the series of videos on tiktok. the first one shows young men assembling near the beaches of northern france last night. have a look at this right . so as you can see, large group

of young men, not a woman in sight, not a child in sight. large group of young men last night getting ready to cross the channel. they've all paid the trafficker three and a half grand here they are now on the boat somewhere on average. now, about 65 to a boat. here they are crossing the channel. it's thumbs up , are crossing the channel. it's thumbs up, big smile. it's grabbing day out. and now they've been picked up by the rnli. yes big waves. happy as larry off to a four star hotel, three square meals a day and £40 a week, spending money. and they're literally mocking us openly on tiktok and there's nothing the social media channel can do, even when they take down the accounts, more appear. and these are all adverts, you know , come to the uk, it's easy. it's safe. yes. the odd thing goes wrong and i just feel we're being mocked . and it's now over being mocked. and it's now over 100,000 young men that have come . but please don't call it an invasion . oh, no, no, no, no. if invasion. oh, no, no, no, no. if you use that word, everyone goes

potty and says extremist potty and says you're extremist and a racist these are and a racist because these are all poor suffering people. in fact , the bbc always tell us fact, the bbc always tell us these are desperate people. well none of them in those videos looked too desperate to me. i wonder , will it ever stop .7 after wonder, will it ever stop? after all, the home office think it might go on for five years? your thoughts , please. farage at thoughts, please. farage at gbnews.com. now mark white, our home security editor, has been down in dover docks for at least 12 hours today. mark a red alert day for border force and the others . it was a pretty busy others. it was a pretty busy morning, wasn't it? >> yes, it was with at least eight small boats coming across, nigel. and we counted some of those boats, four off the boats had upwards of 61, even 65 people on board. and that's clearly a continuation of this trend by the people smugglers to push even more people onto these boats . they're slightly bigger,

boats. they're slightly bigger, they're a bit more sturdy. but when you get numbers like that on the boats, it doesn't take much at for all that boat to get into difficulties , as we saw, of into difficulties, as we saw, of course, just at the weekend there on saturday, as we speak, there on saturday, as we speak, the french patrols are out on the french patrols are out on the other side of the channel they're expecting the possibility that we could get an evening surge as well coming over from france. >> yeah, i'd be surprised, mark, if we don't get boats coming this evening, because there is, in fact , some easterly wind that in fact, some easterly wind that starts to up tomorrow and starts to pick up tomorrow and onwards . now, what's really onwards. now, what's really interesting, there's one big change yes today was the change here. yes today was the second anniversary of the taliban retaking kabul after biden's disastrous withdrawal. and it would appear now that not only the number of afghans that are coming across the channel, but it appears they're winning the turf wars over in calais . the turf wars over in calais. >> yes , well, i mean, i wouldn't >> yes, well, i mean, i wouldn't really necessarily see they're

winning the turf wars, but they're certainly in some cases trying to take the fight to some of the kurdish people smugglers who have really been in control of the people smuggling routes for years now. and as bizarre as it seems, i actually bumped into three iraqi kurds, all cousins. two had come across in lorries, eight years ago, one on a small boat two years ago , that person boat two years ago, that person still waiting for the asylum process to complete . they've process to complete. they've come here for a picnic. they all live in different parts of the country. they wanted to meet up , so they're overlooking the very channel that the public and i was asking them. they they didn't want to appear a picnic. they didn't want to appear on camera, but they were happy to chat. camera, but they were happy to chat . and they were telling me chat. and they were telling me about the their fellow kurds, iraqi kurds, who control a lot of these camps around dunkirk

and even in calais. and how increasingly they are arming themselves , that there is a lot themselves, that there is a lot of infighting that's breaking out, mainly between the kurdish gangs , disputes over them, gangs, disputes over them, undercutting each other, invading their particular turf. they, you know, jealously guard their particular patch and they are getting reports from people they still know on the other side who say that they have seen these gang masters wandering about. now with weapons. i've been there many times over the years. i've been threatened twice by these criminal gangs of gang masters with knives , never gang masters with knives, never with guns. and it was only because they didn't like us filming, but it is a surprise that they are now arming themselves with weapons. but it seems , as you see, the afghans seems, as you see, the afghans who are now the biggest nationality represented on these small boats are themselves

trying to get a piece of that action. >> yeah, no, quite extraordinary. well mark, i have to say, it looks more like the mediterranean than dover from the shots i've got. and, you know, quite ironic , isn't it, know, quite ironic, isn't it, really? gunshots on really? you know, gunshots on the other side. just a few days ago . and illegal immigrants ago. and illegal immigrants picnicking there. we are in doven picnicking there. we are in dover, quite extraordinary. mark, you could be in for a long evening as well. i think. thank you for your report from dover. now, last night i talked about the fact that it was exactly a fortnight until the ulez extension comes in. politically, it's a big issue. extension comes in. politically, it's a big issue . the it's a big issue. the conservatives held the uxbridge seat in the recent byelection , seat in the recent byelection, to the surprise of many and labour hold 5 or 6 seats right on the periphery of london. this potentially is a big opportunity for the conservatives and i talked about article 143 of the greater london authority act and it said says clearly the secretary of state can override

the mayor of london on transport policy if the secretary considers that the strategy or any part of it is inconsistent with national policies and is detrimental to any area outside greater london. well, the second part of that is, is absolutely confirmed . there are so many confirmed. there are so many people with businesses in counties surrounding london that will be adversely affected by the ulez extension . the more the ulez extension. the more debateable point is what is our transport policy ? but if the transport policy? but if the government's now saying that it's against this ulez extension and against it happening in other cities, i can't see what the problem is. i think politically it's a no brainer. the conservatives, to delay the introduction of ulez and to push it out beyond the mayoral elections next may. but i asked the question last night would they have the bottle to do it ? they have the bottle to do it? well, we have a new kid on the block. well, he's not that new,

really, but he's new to gb news. he's a veteran, actually, and his name is christopher hope. and chris joins us as our new political editor. chris we've known each other1 or 2 years in known each other 1 or 2 years in another . known each other 1 or 2 years in another. you're a man with your ear very close to these things. are they to going pick up this challenge like this? >> no , no. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> what's happened here is a challenge here for mark harper. he's the transport secretary. he runs the transport network for the whole country. he's the choice here. should he step in and try and use this apparent legislation here in article one? it's not a parody. well, is there? how you define there? yes. but how you define it i've been told very it now, i've been told i'm very good authority two very good authority from two very good authority from two very good one very, very good sources. one very, very close that they close to mark harper that they have they've have taken legal advice. they've been can't use this to been told they can't use this to stop mayor sadiq khan extending ulez on august 29th. therefore, it will go ahead. but as you know, politics is a choice, nigel, and a choice of how we spend the public money. it may well be that officials are telemark harper legally you

can't do it and therefore he's got a choice. do i overrule? that may be or a direction of officials and that means he can overrule on value of money grounds and order his officials to say, no, we're not going to try and challenge that in the court and test that in the court . that would be a political choice might delay choice to make it might delay the extension for few months the extension for a few months to hall . she's the to get susan hall. she's the london of the tories. london marathon of the tories. she's promised on day one of if she wins sadiq khan next may in the local and mayoral elections, she will reverse it so it could delay it until then . it's delay it until then. it's a choice that mark harper has got to make, and currently he's not going it. yeah i mean, the going to do it. yeah i mean, the idea that legal advice says, what entrepreneurship ? what about entrepreneurship? >> what about leadership? what about caring for the poorer in society ? big numbers of them. society? big numbers of them. yeah you know, this idea that only 1 in 10 cars or vans will pay only 1 in 10 cars or vans will pay the new ulez charge . that's pay the new ulez charge. that's because only 1 in 10 cars in can and chelsea , you know, it and chelsea, you know, it doesn't account for cars

crossing the border . crossing the border. >> that's the point. >> that's the point. >> but when you go out to the outskirts of london, people are not as rich as they are in kensington and chelsea. and it's not 1 in 10 cars. it's 3 or 4. >> okay. the scrappage >> okay. but the scrappage scheme, is done if khan scheme, which is done if khan were here he'd be saying, were here now, he'd be saying, i've a scrappage scheme, i'm i've got a scrappage scheme, i'm going vehicles with . going to reward vehicles with. in get a new car or in the m25, you get a new car or new vehicle, new van or money towards too, won't towards that too, so you won't pay towards that too, so you won't pay the charge. but that doesn't account outside in account for vehicles outside in the five labour other areas who drive in and drive out and they are and equally, you know if the scrappage is a couple of grand but the new cars eight grand and you haven't got a lot of money take grand anymore. that was like ten years ago. >> nigel that's quite well a second hang ulez compact car. you get you might get you might get one. you might get something that's compliant with a of miles on the a with a lot of miles on the clock grand. clock rate. ten grand. but you're still actually. you're still looking actually. so scrappage scheme defers so the scrappage scheme defers some of the cost , but no so the scrappage scheme defers some of the cost, but no more than that. is this not just an example of a classic sort of

wait and see style conservative government? let's sort of push this down the road . let's wait. this down the road. let's wait. let's not make a tough decision. and you know, shouldn't mark harper be bolder ? harper be bolder? >> oh, well, that's that game we go at that political point. now, if you were mark harper, you would be bolder, wouldn't you? you this, you would you you take on this, you would you would down this legal would drill down this legal advice. again, don't know advice. again, we don't know what advice says. it advice. again, we don't know what be advice says. it advice. again, we don't know what be it advice says. it advice. again, we don't know what be it may advice says. it advice. again, we don't know what be it may be lice says. it advice. again, we don't know what be it may be ite says. it advice. again, we don't know what be it may be it says's. it advice. again, we don't know what be it may be it says that by may be it may be it says that by deaung may be it may be it says that by dealing as a distinct dealing with you as a distinct point, to point, it means you have to cancel clean air zones cancel all clean air zones across the uk. we don't know that that's an idea. we don't know or not. but know if it's true or not. but the advice being the legal advice is not being given won't give us given to us. they won't give us legal advice in government. but yes, political yes, it may take some political courage but equally it courage to do it. but equally it looks the tories are happy looks like the tories are happy to bring this , bring to let macron bring this, bring this in. they'll be upset and concern around those areas around london and they might benefit from the election if it's june november next it's in june or november next yeah it's in june or november next year. it's two. but people year. but it's two. but people won't that far by won't look back that far by then. the damage will have been done, possibly the damage the businesses would have businesses and others would have been made here. been the choice we made here.

>> i saw a tory mp at >> yeah, i saw a tory mp at lunch and that mp said to me, oh no , we want make it an no, we want to make it an election this year. it's no, we want to make it an ele about this year. it's no, we want to make it an ele about electionsyear. it's no, we want to make it an ele about elections and it's no, we want to make it an ele about elections and winning all about elections and winning elections and to hell with the people. >> is my anti party fronted by nigel farage for the next. >> why do you never know never know. getting and >> why do you never know never know. with getting and >> why do you never know never know. with them. and >> why do you never know never know. with them. chris and >> why do you never know never know. with them. chris welcome angry with them. chris welcome to gibney's and to this show. we're going to see a lot more of you.thank we're going to see a lot more of you. thank you. i know we are. thank you. as the months and years. go ahead. well, all i can say is it's just so classic journalist's useless, gutless leaders to any leaders not prepared to take any bold decisions, not prepared to take risks. if harper take any risks. if harper did this , i tell you what, there'd this, i tell you what, there'd be a huge amount of support for him and for his party. but they think kick it down the road and susan hall will make it an election issue. you ever heard of susan hall? had any of you ever heard of susan hall until a few weeks ago? what chances she got are winning next? maine oh, dean got are winning next? maine oh, dear, oh, dear. in a minute , we dear, oh, dear. in a minute, we will talk about de—banking. but

actually, in this case, it's tanking. i promise. all will be explained in a couple of minutes

>> you're listening to news radio . radio. >> well, i asked you , will the >> well, i asked you, will the cross channel migrant crisis or should we now call it an emergency ? will it ever stop emergency? will it ever stop some of your thoughts that have come in, michael says , i can't come in, michael says, i can't speak for all. however i can speak for all. however i can speak for all. however i can speak for many when i say enough is enough , ryan says not whilst is enough, ryan says not whilst this conservative government in brackets does everything it can to avoid the issue . we could to avoid the issue. we could solve this in a matter of weeks by simply turning the boats around. ryan do you mean to do what australia did because they did it rather successfully? and one more, i'll take, shane says absolute sick of this migrant situation . this government has situation. this government has completely let us down. now i've been giving you the de—banking story and telling you that group

after group of people have been dying banked. many of them, you say, are involved in businesses and industries that whilst they are perfectly legal , perfectly are perfectly legal, perfectly legal , they are no longer legal, they are no longer approved of by the so—called esg agenda. but in this case, will hollis, our gb news reporter up in the east midlands, has a case of somebody who was being detained , will tell us the story detained, will tell us the story . please >> yes, well, it's a beautiful evening here in northampton . evening here in northampton. sunshine. nigel we're in northamptonshire because the home of tanks a lot, which is one business that has found itself without a bank account. nick you're the owner of tanks. a lot . you found yourself quite a lot. you found yourself quite recently without a barclays bank account as well as a wise account. just tell me a little bit about the history of your business. thanks a lot. how you came into it why you think came into it and why you think that you've been debunked. >> , 35 years we've been >> well, 35 years we've been doing everything from private car crashes to corporate days to

all the agencies where you buy activity vouchers and then kids parties, everything you can think of with tanks and then suddenly this war started with ukraine and they wanted tanks and we had rather a lot of them. so when i say tanks, they're troop carriers and types of command vehicles. nothing's been sold with a gun on it or with even a smoke discharge. and i think we've done about 120 vehicles leading up to christmas. i mean, there were low loaders in and out here every single day. and then suddenly they just closed the account . account. >> so it's been six since >> so it's been six months since you've to sell one of you've been able to sell one of these tanks. actually these these tanks. is actually these tanks right behind you can tanks right here behind you can see on your screen. but for people listening on radio, they're carriers , so they're troop carriers, so they're troop carriers, so they're little bit smaller. they're a little bit smaller. they have big barrel they don't have a big barrel gun. what was the reason that barclays wise have given to barclays and wise have given to you as to why they've closed your accounts, which your bank accounts, which i think you've had for upwards of 40 years, 45 years with barclays? >> yeah, never bounced a cheque, never gone overdrawn . and i never gone overdrawn. and i think might problem think that might be the problem

. low profit , . i'm what you call low profit, but possibly high risk in their opinion. i don't think i am high risk because every single vehicle that's left here has been checked by the department of trade industry, which of trade and industry, which i think now called the think are now called the department for business and trade, those names trade, they change those names quite a lot. >> they checked they checked >> they checked so they checked all of accounts. and given all of your accounts. and given export licence to the export licence over to the people that use getting people that use for getting these vehicles out to ukraine. we checked with them. what you said they follow a strict risk assessment frame work. so they say that your dealings are all business legitimate . so why do business legitimate. so why do you think that barclays said that it's okay for them to close your account? >> there's draconian rules on any type of banks that get involved in money laundering or anything like this. and i think maybe ukraine have got a bit of a reputation that in the past, i think they should give some kind of because of dispensation because a potential bit of money laundering is a lot less important lives . important than ukrainian lives. >> and that's why you're doing this. know, you've been in this. you know, you've been in

this. you know, you've been in this business a long time, this business for a long time, but, you don't sell but, you know, you don't sell tanks sell tanks very often. you don't sell these often unless these vehicles very often unless maybe it's to another dealer in america. >> collectors in america, they love the occasional tank . love the occasional tank. incidentally, they to be incidentally, they have to be deactivated twice. how about that ? is it deactivated twice. how about that? is it nice to deactivated twice. how about that ? is it nice to think deactivated twice. how about that? is it nice to think the americans have to have it of less kind of gun left in it than in england ? in england? >> yeah. and just quickly, where do you think this ends? you know, we've heard so many stories recently, particularly the about nigel farage stories recently, particularly the hisioul nigel farage stories recently, particularly the hisioul naccountage stories recently, particularly the hisioul naccount .]e stories recently, particularly the hisioul naccount . where losing his bank account. where does go from here? does this go from here? >> i want to know why . and if >> i want to know why. and if they've to me about why they've lied to me about why they've lied to me about why they've cancelled my bank account the same they lied to account the same as they lied to nigel. 1 or 2 people have said it should be more important because it's not just reputation, it's not just business. . business. it's lives. >> it is lives because you're trying to get these tanks over to ukraine. it's people from all sorts of political persuasions, isn't nigel all sorts of isn't it? nigel all sorts of backgrounds. but the one common factor is that they're losing their bank accounts. >> andi their bank accounts. >> and i have to >> what it is, and i have to say, i love the look of

say, nick, i love the look of that place. i want to come and visit . it looks terrific. but visit. it looks terrific. but what is so bizarre here, you know, i suspect that it could be that you're involved in with military kit and that's what the bank don't like . but i think bank don't like. but i think it's because you're doing business with ukraine. as you say, had very dodgy say, they had a very dodgy reputation. bizarre reputation. but the bizarre thing is our foreign policy is to support ukraine. and here you are effectively sending armoured personnel carriers. quick question, nick. have you written to the defence secretary . to the defence secretary. >> now? i just got a question for you. he says it's our policy, the foreign policy to help ukraine. have you spoken to anybody, the defence secretary or anybody at the mod about why they think this is happening ? they think this is happening? >> lord attlee, john attlee or latterly in the house of commons as house of lords? he's basically made lots of enquiries and they seem to be saying it's just because of the risk factor that they get embroiled in any kind of money laundering, anything like that. the fines against banks from the

government are massive . we need government are massive. we need some kind of dispensation and i think that with with all the licences that have to be granted, i think it's pretty safe. nick thank you so much for talking to us on gb news tonight, especially getting over a cold as well. >> so thank you very much . >> so thank you very much. >> so thank you very much. >> i'm out of my bed. >> i'm out of my bed. >> thank you. will thank you, nick. great stuff. there we are tanking. i'd do tanking. never thought i'd do a story headline. story under that headline. a barclays spokesman in response said, we would only withdraw banking from an banking services from an individual or business in exceptional circumstances. really and then wise actually put nick in the same position and a spokesperson said under the terms of our policy , we are the terms of our policy, we are unable to offer our services to individuals involved in the sale of weaponry and our military or semi military goods and services. this includes the sale of non combat military vehicles regardless of their destination or whether a business has obtained an export licence. you see this ? this is what i've been

see this? this is what i've been talking about and well done wise for being honest . people for being honest. people involved in legal, lawful activities and yet modern day banks say, oh no , no, no, no, banks say, oh no, no, no, no, we're going to take a moral position on this. let's take you with banks a request, please. if any of you have ever worked in the past for natwest, i want to know what clauses in your contract when it came to client confidential . and do you know confidential. and do you know anybody that was sacked by natwest because they broke a client confidence ? because i client confidence? because i want to find out how it is that dame alison rose is still in line for a £2.43 million payoff. sticking with natwest down in brighton, a well known mural wall which natwest took. and this picture of marcus rashford coloured picture of marcus rashford put up on the wall. but the problem was next to it. natwest put up a sign on

someone's fence without asking permission and there is one hell of a row going on. the owner of that particular wall is not very happy. that particular wall is not very happy . there we that particular wall is not very happy. there we are. banks do often get things wrong at a moment we discussed the inflation figures . does that inflation figures. does that mean interest rate rises have now come to an end and will rishi sunak of the five big pledges he's made were the one on inflation? actually work

cancel your listening to news . cancel your listening to news. radio at 7:00 this morning. >> we got the latest inflation figures and yes, inflation is coming down. strange in one way because actually wages are going up and the bank of england led, of course , by a man who i don't of course, by a man who i don't really think ought to be there. andrew, out to lunch. bailey has got a big dilemma. does he go on putting up interest rates and

will the big political question , rishi sunak meet one of his five key pledges joining me, liam halligan gb news is business and economics editor along busy day. liam inflation down pretty much in line with what we expected it is. >> nigel good news and bad news in these numbers. inflation has come down from 7.9% during the 12 months to june to 6.8% during the 12 months to july. a pretty chunky reduction in anyone's money. having said that, it's still over three times the bank of england's 2% target. we're still very high compared to the eurozone , 5.5% inflation, 3.2% eurozone, 5.5% inflation, 3.2% in america. this reduction in inflation, it's not enough. in my book to force the bank of england to stop raising interest rates. i think they should just stop raising interest rates. >> i don't think they should stop raising interest rates. but will they now? i doubt very much. >> and the reason doubt that >> and the reason i doubt that very is because very much is because they haven't intellectual

haven't got the intellectual grit they're grit and determination they're trying their battered trying to salvage their battered credibility late to credibility. they were late to start raising rates, in my view. they were two feeble and lacked boldness when they did start raising rates. so they've got to raise them now beyond the point at which it's necessary. this is counterproductive. they're at risk , actually, of driving the risk, actually, of driving the uk economy into a recession, looking towards the last quarter, indeed this year , wages quarter, indeed this year, wages still going up. wait yesterday we had wages. good news for workers. it is look, we just had the largest increase in wages for almost 20 years in terms of absolute number terms. and for one month wait so far, wages have been higher than inflation. so is this the end of the cost of living crisis? no no. is it the beginning of the end ? the beginning of the end? fingers and toes crossed. yeah but the thing about these higher wages , two things. one is that wages, two things. one is that they're an average average pubuc they're an average average public sector wages went up 9.6% across the board. 8.2. you know,

people don't live in averages. people that didn't get a pay rise, people working in the gig economy part time. >> it just amuses me . economy part time. >> it just amuses me. liam, economy part time. >> it just amuses me . liam, you >> it just amuses me. liam, you know, saying isn't it know, economists saying isn't it terrible wages have gone know, economists saying isn't it terri well, wages have gone know, economists saying isn't it terri well, actually, have gone know, economists saying isn't it terri well, actually, no, e gone know, economists saying isn't it terri well, actually, no, it's)ne up? well, actually, no, it's quite good for people. but the other bad is indeed that other bad thing is indeed that that will the that wage inflation will be the main people on main reason why the people on the bank of england who are determined to keep raising rates will win. >> the argument . >> the argument. >> the argument. >> yeah, i get that now. rishi sunak big pledges were sunak five big key pledges were one them in the english one of them in the english channel working too channel not working out too well, made pledge to well, but he made a pledge to halve inflation when he made that promise. inflation was about 10.7, so he needs it to be 5.4 at the end of the year. >> yeah, and i think he may get there , but if he gets there, it there, but if he gets there, it will be nothing really to do with what he's done. it will be largely global events. i tell you will determine whether you what will determine whether or nigel or not he gets there. nigel geopolitics . will war in ukraine geopolitics. will war in ukraine really kick off, causing another spike in energy prices this autumn? if it does cause a spike in energy prices , he's not going in energy prices, he's not going to meet his target if it

doesn't, then probably will. doesn't, then he probably will. whether or not he does has nothing to do with what he does. and there a geopolitical and if there is a geopolitical energy price spike, nothing that the does can do the bank of england does can do anything that. raises anything about that. so raises further rises interest rates further rises in interest rates will be irrelevant and even more counterproductive . counterproductive. >> what help him, ironically >> what may help him, ironically and with >> what may help him, ironically and is with >> what may help him, ironically and is the with >> what may help him, ironically and is the state with >> what may help him, ironically and is the state of with >> what may help him, ironically and is the state of the with >> what may help him, ironically and is the state of the economy him is the state of the economy in china . in china. >> i think that's true. the global economy , the chinese global economy, the chinese economy is slower . the china economy is slower. the china actually has default relation. it's got negative inflation. and that could slow down price rises around the world. also that what i think will be a big issue is the extent to which the uk can manage to contain any energy price rises , whether or not the price rises, whether or not the government's willing to put more money in to subsidise any spike in energy prices. look this is a scenario. i'm not saying it's going to happen. my central sort of forecast in my mind is that he will hit his target. i'm talking about things that could

knock this off course . knock this off course. >> yeah, but i think the china thing is really interesting. and because think, oh, well, because people think, oh, well, china grows and china just grows and grows and grows, richer and grows, they get richer and fichen grows, they get richer and richer. there's richer. but actually there's a big reversal. >> big reversal going >> there's a big reversal going on have really on which could have really big political china, political implications in china, because deal in china is as because the deal in china is as long you keep growing, then long as you keep growing, then the mind the middle classes won't mind that. that live in that. the fact that they live in a it's a slightly a dictatorship, it's a slightly different tack. >> is if the if the >> but my fear is if the if the chinese economy continues to go down the way that it is, it makes invasion taiwan next makes an invasion of taiwan next year likely. it's year more likely. it's a separate but it is separate issue, but it is linked. to my what the linked. now to my what the farage to going be farage moment was to going be about an irish cash machine. but given , liam's family hail given liam, liam's family hail from ireland than it is a wonderfully dare i say it irish story steady. well, i knew. i get it. >> i know where you live, nigel. >> i know where you live, nigel. >> liam what? the farage moment by liam halligan . by liam halligan. >> this is really a really interesting story. that is funny. it's got a serious underbelly though. and heard underbelly though. and i heard about it yesterday because my daughter actually in daughter actually lives in in dubun daughter actually lives in in dublin . look, you've got bank of

dublin. look, you've got bank of ireland , which isn't the irish ireland, which isn't the irish central bank. it's the biggest commercial bank ireland. it's commercial bank in ireland. it's got current accounts. it got most current accounts. it dominates irish life along with barclays actually is important there. but also allied irish and a rumour went round yesterday this is so irish that you could withdraw money from a cash machine even if you didn't have the money in your account. i love it . and it was people were love it. and it was people were queuing up and it was going around the pubs and irish social media was going ballistic. and then the bank of ireland issued an this morning. these an edict this morning. these pictures, these pictures , the pictures, these pictures, the bank of ireland then issued a statement. any money that's withdrawn , it will come off your withdrawn, it will come off your ballot. we are watching. but look, a serious point look, there's a serious point here, because not so long ago, actually in 2021, of actually in 2021, bank of ireland, which, as i said, plays a crucial role in in life in not just the republic of ireland, but northern ireland as well. it was fine, ,25 million, the thick end of £20 million by the central bank because it was seen

that it's it continuity processes weren't up to snuff. what does that mean? it means how a bank would cope if there was a sort of major it failure or a hack and all. you know, all companies have business continuity strategies , of continuity strategies, of course. and so bank of ireland was fined. so it has got a sort of slight doubt over its it capable cities in the past. and one thing that really you like this nigel here's a quote it was in the irish times actually yesterday this morning one man queuing outside an atm in stoneybatter, dublin stoneybatter, dublin stoneybatter is the kind of place in dublin you wouldn't like it. it's really trendy. lots of people with little beards and funny shoes and oatmilk lattes and so on. and this guy in stoneybatter, he said , i don't know if i'll get said, i don't know if i'll get away with it. he says, withdrawing cash he hasn't got, but it's worth a shot. >> i know i'm with him. and funnily enough , last thing, in funnily enough, last thing, in the republic everyone was trying to withdraw cash, but in

northern ireland a lot more stayed a lot more buttoned up. >> there was none of that wonderful. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> love it, liam. thank you. and liam and i will be together tomorrow with a little initiative on. i don't kill cash campaign. >> can't say too much . tell you >> can't say too much. tell you what it is at the moment, but it does resemble a floyd album cover. >> coven >> going ei-ifl ei-im @-— >> it's going to be a lot of fun. liam, thank you much. fun. liam, thank you so much. and thought before the and one more thought before the break. a bit of break. let's have a bit of engush break. let's have a bit of english nationalism, shall we? the lionesses won. won. the lionesses won. yes they won. they matildas , they they beat the matildas, they beat australia. three one. absolutely terrific . they're absolutely terrific. they're through to the final on sunday. they'll be playing spain and they are the favourites to win. and we very much hope that they do. but you know, when politicians lions pretend to be big sports fans, it doesn't always work. let's have a look at this picture of sir ed davey . oh dear. oh dear, oh dear. there's ed sheeran , funded by there's ed sheeran, funded by spades by politicos pretending that it's a really big moment, but utterly, entirely posed for

the camera. all i can say , sir the camera. all i can say, sir ed, is sad , so sad, so cringe ed, is sad, so sad, so cringe making. it's not even true. now, a couple of years ago i propose a couple of years ago i propose a richard tice then maybe the time would come to think about having a referendum on net zero. and truth is , we were just way and truth is, we were just way too far ahead of the game and initiative at that moment went nowhere. but it's coming back . nowhere. but it's coming back. there's a group of red wall tory mps think we ought to have a referendum in a moment we're going to have a debate on this because is it appropriate to have referendums on issues that are non institutional? would it turn us into switzerland? would that be a bad thing? net zero referendum in just a moment

oh, i love a good referendum.

apps are blooming lately. if we hadnt apps are blooming lately. if we hadn't had a referendum on our membership of the european union , we absolutely would still be members of it. why well, because the political class were completely out of touch with the country on a fundamental constitutional question . so constitutional question. so let's begin this debate tonight on whether there should be a referendum on net zero with that very big question, are we a country that ought to have referendums or referenda, depending on your choice, on these issues? and joining me in these issues? and joining me in the studio is sean speirs, executive director of the green alliance. and former chief executive of the council for the protection of rural england . and protection of rural england. and down the line, joining me , red down the line, joining me, red waller, scott benson. concern member of parliament for blackpool south on the big constitutional stuff . sean you constitutional stuff. sean you know i of course was agitating for that eu referendum for what, about a quarter of a century or something like that. and we had

the referendum and it was interesting that actually the country wasn't a different place on that issue to westminster. would it be appropriate to have a referendum in your opinion, on an issue like this ? an issue like this? >> i just think it's a really bad idea. i saw craig mackinlay in the telegraph saying it's a complex issue. it really is a complex issue. it really is a complex issue. it really is a complex issue and a complex issue with one question sorry, are you saying people are too stupid on complex things ? >> well, you asked one 7 >> well, you asked one question about something that's multifaceted. does that that multifaceted. how does that that work? multifaceted. how does that that woryes , but it's about >> yes, but it's about a principle. it's about a direction in which we're going, isn't is. isn't it? yes, it is. >> but also, there's no evidence whatsoever that people don't want mean, climate want net—zero. i mean, climate is polling third in in terms of pubuc is polling third in in terms of public concern at the moment . public concern at the moment. every country around the world is going for net zero. that's a swiss just had a referendum on it which let's come to that it which they let's come to that let's come to the subject . let's come to the subject. >> yeah just on the big point you critics this would you know critics of this would say that direct democracy outsourcing big decisions to the public, be they straightforward

or complex questions that no, this is the job that a representative parliament does. and that if we do this, we become switzerland. we where would you sit on that? >> i think i'd agree with that. i think it would be very divisive we'd lose years of divisive and we'd lose years of the energy that needs to go into tackling change, tackling the climate change, which so worried which people are so worried about, about whether we about, arguing about whether we have question have a referendum. the question should benson, have a referendum. the question shoulda benson, have a referendum. the question shoulda relative benson, have a referendum. the question shoulda relative new benson, have a referendum. the question shoulda relative new boy nson, have a referendum. the question shoulda relative new boy in>n, you're a relative new boy in parliament, a 2019 red warbler. >> and do you think it would be appropriate to have a referendum on an issue like this ? on an issue like this? >> good evening, nigel. >> good evening, nigel. >> well, we saw in 2016 that policies such as yours were light years ahead of westminster bubble when it came to leaving the european union and i'm afraid with net zero once again is an issue where my constituents who are paying through the nose with the high cost of energy a years ahead of politicians. >> when you ask my constituents, do you support net zero? of course, they say yes. however, when you ask them with the costs

involved, are you prepared to meet these costs as a households to achieve net zero? their answer then changes to absolutely not. and i'm afraid if we leave this issue in the hands of the westminster bubble, then we'll be waiting years and years for change and people to see a bit of that . political see a bit of that. political prevailing winds has changed for the next big election, but it's not enough. why not put this issue to the people and let them decide? >> scott benson makes a very powerful point, sean, which is actually as all the parties are committed to this as it's been signed into law . amazing. signed into law. amazing. theresa may signed it into law without even having a vote in the house of commons. that we're committed to a rolling series of five year plans that actually , five year plans that actually, if i'm a voter at the next election and i've got grave reservations , not about the reservations, not about the climate debate, but about what we're doing in the name of the climate debate, i can't register a protest against that, can i?

>> well, you could. you could vote for the brexit party was the only party last time that said no to it. and they got 2% of the vote. so they well, yeah, everybody stood for everybody else stood stood for it. people like scott signed up to their manifesto when the realistic try to the when realistic try to fight the when the realistic choice of who is to going form the next government of the united kingdom is or conservative party. >> and maybe the lib dems could be in a coalition. it's unlikely. maybe the snp even more unlikely when realistically in, you know, 85% plus of the country, you're going to get a tory or labour mp yeah, when both of them are signed up to net zero unless we have a referendum , there's no way of referendum, there's no way of having a proper public debate, is there? >> but there are debates within the parties and there's a debate at the moment the at the moment within the conservative party. scott and others are saying no to no choice for electorate. well, choice for the electorate. well, if there will be choice. if they there will be a choice. if conservative party choose if the conservative party choose to the to go against net zero. the problem is they know from funding won't. but a funding they won't. but a quarter of their votes be ho. 110. >> no. >> but they won't do they >> but they won't do it. they won't. won't it because won't. they won't do it because people it. no, they won't

people want it. no, they won't do because they've signed do it because they've signed us. they've into law. the they've signed it into law. the point, point i'm trying point, the big point i'm trying to though. to get changed, though. >> i'm to >> the big point i'm trying to get here is we get situations get to here is we get situations in where is in this country where there is a political consensus in westminster, media consensus westminster, a media consensus in media. and for in mainstream media. and for people out there disagree , people out there who disagree, what they do? what can they do? >> they can. yeah i mean, you can argue for a referendum if you want. >> well, well, well. i think i almost have in this conversation , scott. i mean, you know, sean makes the point there is a debate now going within the debate now going on within the conservative party . conservative party. >> let's frank, those of >> but let's be frank, those of you that are sceptical about the cost and frankly the cost to ordinary folk of net zero policies, you're very much a minority in the tory party, aren't you? that's sadly very much so. >> nigel. sadly, we are. there's a number of people. craig mckinley foremost among us who are making these debates week in, week out. i would hope the prime minister would take a long, hard look at the uxbridge byelection. i think that

provides a golden opportunity to change the political dial on this issue . and what my this issue. and what my constituents are crying out for is support with the cost, particularly of energy bills. and i think if it was a conservative government who was listening to hard working people who are concerned about the transition to net zero, because let's be honest , it's those let's be honest, it's those people, people in low income households who are desperate , households who are desperate, fortunately paying through the nose for the transition to net zero. if the prime minister were to look again at this issue and indeed the proposed ban on new cars by 2030, i he could cars by 2030, i think he could potentially reap the reward at the ballot box. so i do hope the prime minister and other senior pubuc prime minister and other senior public members of the cabinet are listening . but frankly, are listening. but frankly, nigel, thank goodness you are here and gb news is here making the case for this issue as you do on so many of us. >> well, actually, what we're doing has got is we're having a debate on it. and i'm you. debate on it. and i'm with you. but i we're not exactly but i mean, we're not exactly going sean spears of going to cut sean spears out of this conversation. going to cut sean spears out of thislfonversation. going to cut sean spears out of thisif iwersation. going to cut sean spears out of thisif i just.ation. going to cut sean spears out of thisif i just.atio back on

>> if i just cut back on a couple of points, ulez is interesting, ulez a interesting, but ulez is a an air pollution policy . the clean, air pollution policy. the clean, clean, absolute rubbish. well, i don't think sadiq khan has ever said it's about net zero. it's about dying about stopping people dying prematurely of air pollution, which rubbish. prematurely of air pollution, whiwell rubbish. prematurely of air pollution, whiwell , rubbish. prematurely of air pollution, whiwell , that's rubbish. prematurely of air pollution, whiwell , that's you 3bish. prematurely of air pollution, whiwell , that's you go ;h. prematurely of air pollution, whiwell , that's you go out to >> well, that's you go out to outer london where live, outer london where i live, there's air problem there's no air quality problem at all. >> that's what @ that's what >> but that's what the policy is about. it's not a net zero policy. so let's park that one. i'll have debate ulez i'll have a debate about ulez another i'll have a debate about ulez anobut i'll have a debate about ulez ano but equally it's the poor >> but equally it's the poor that >> but equally it's the poor tha yeah, well, we make you >> yeah, well, we can make you ulez, energy policy, ulez, but on on energy policy, the that scott's the reason that scott's constituents are suffering so badly because we wasted years badly is because we wasted years not decarbonising , not using not decarbonising, not using cheapen not decarbonising, not using cheaper, renewable fuel, not insulating our houses. cheaper, renewable fuel, not insulating our houses . and the insulating our houses. and the three quarters of the drop in inflation, we've just seen is down to falling gas prices . it's down to falling gas prices. it's expensive gas and our reliance on fossil fuels. >> did you notice dualling did you notice, sean, this morning at about 9:00, how much of our energy grid was being fuelled by wind? >> i did because i see your tweets and i said, there you are retweeting. >> and, you know, i mean, almost

nothing . so to have gas nothing. so we had to have gas and coal to back it up. look >> but for the first quarter of the year, were producing more the year, we were producing more for the first quarter of the year as a whole, more of our energy renewables energy has come from renewables than from gas. about 10% from nuclear. and last year it was the year as a whole it was 40. >> is it fair that what we've been doing for the last 20 years is putting huge lumps on people's electricity bills to subsidise renewable? >> no. you should have gone on. >> no. you should have gone on. >> is it fair? but that's what we've isn't it? we've done, isn't it? >> think you shouldn't play >> i think you shouldn't play pay >> i think you shouldn't play pay for that through people's energy bills. >> you are firmly opposed >> right. you are firmly opposed to referendum this . to a referendum on this. >> i mean, i think it's a bad idea. i think it's a distraction because i don't see as much support for well, okay. >> sean doesn't see much support for feels , i for it. scott benton feels, i think, very, very. >> and by the way, i also think the people been watching >> and by the way, i also think the news.e been watching >> and by the way, i also think the news.e summeren watching >> and by the way, i also think the news.e summer and atching >> and by the way, i also think the news.e summer and seeing the news all summer and seeing the news all summer and seeing the the effects the fires and the real effects of climate want roll of climate change want to roll up the sleeves? oh, we've had it. >> we've we've had fires going

on from thousands of years. scott benton, let me give you the last word on this. he's gone i >> -- >> thank 5mm >> thank you. thank you. nigel absolutely. i've spoken about how it's my constituents paying through the nose of this. i think if there were to be a referendum, we would see a disconnect between the liberal westminster and ordinary westminster elite and ordinary people. and i'm sure they would vote with their heart to save themselves thousands pounds themselves thousands of pounds per year through energy bills. but if are serious about but if we are serious about having more referenda such as nafions having more referenda such as nations switzerland , then nations like switzerland, then why stop ? why just stop? for why not stop? why just stop? for example, at net zero? why not look at issues such as the echr , as the debates in the conservative party? oh, i love it. i love it. we need to do that. >> stop the boat . >> stop the boat. >> stop the boat. >> so let's have more referenda and let's see what the people have to say on these key issues. let's have representative well, representative democracy . representative democracy. >> final words, sean. bills quickly represented . democracy quickly represented. democracy is our representatives is fine if our representatives and parties have different opinions, if they all agree on everything , it isn't much cop, everything, it isn't much cop, is really? everything, it isn't much cop,

is well,y? everything, it isn't much cop, is well, it just might be. >> well, it just might be. they're all right. >> no, not. sean smith >> no, they're not. sean smith always debate . always a spirited debate. patrick good evening. what have you got coming up for us? >> okay. did you know that people are turning up at raf wethersfield being asked if they've any in the they've got any family in the country and being told that they can live with them? can go and live with them? >> we might as >> i've heard that we might as well seriously just drop leaflets africa the leaflets all over africa in the middle do want middle east and say, do you want to see your family again? >> to britain >> if so, come to britain illegally and make it illegally and we'll make it happen, that happen, lads. so there's that a—levels as well. now, universities, foreign students a—levels as well. now, uni�*getting , foreign students a—levels as well. now, uni�*getting aoreign students a—levels as well. now, uni�*getting a break students a—levels as well. now, uni�*getting a break oanents a—levels as well. now, uni�*getting a break on british are getting a break on british students it comes to students when it comes to getting universities as students when it comes to gettirwe're universities as students when it comes to gettirwe're also 'ersities as students when it comes to gettirwe're also gonna; as students when it comes to gettirwe're also gonna be. well. we're also gonna be looking at train fares going up. is we're going is this a way that we're going to end up trapped by net zero forces? use a then you're forces? use a train, then you're paying forces? use a train, then you're paying nose for it. forces? use a train, then you're payi of nose for it. forces? use a train, then you're payi of course, nose for it. forces? use a train, then you're payi of course, the nose for it. forces? use a train, then you're payi of course, the lionesses t. forces? use a train, then you're payi of course, the lionesses as and of course, the lionesses as well world cup final. how well into a world cup final. how long their manager is long before their manager is managing a premier league team? >> don't the answer >> well, i don't know the answer to let's hope they to that, but let's hope they win. season and win. got great season sunday and the aussies a the aussies, the aussies took a real they're not happy real i mean they're not happy bunnies aussies and bunnies the aussies tonight and after kangaroos and after the ashes of course only

ashes which of course they only held on to the urn because the terrible weather managed terrible weather it managed to save really good, save them been a really good, good a—level results 8:00 good day. a—level results 8:00 tomorrow morning on key tomorrow morning on my key priority of my youngest daughter. see what the daughter. let's see what the weather's going to be like . weather's going to be like. >> temperatures rising, boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest gp news. weather forecast provided by the met office after a relatively dry and fine day today that will be continuing into thursday as well and even into thursday as well and even into the overnight period. a good chunk of wales central southern areas of england, even northern ireland holding to on some late sunshine and clear intervals overnight, might allow for fog patches to for some mist and fog patches to form eastern areas of form across eastern areas of england up towards scotland. we're going to hold on to the cloud bit more. so turn a bit cloud a bit more. so turn a bit murky higher ground murky across some higher ground routes, temperatures routes, but temperatures generally routes, but temperatures ge15 clly routes, but temperatures ge15 c in our towns and cities to 15 c in our towns and cities . a bit a cooler, fresher . a bit of a cooler, fresher start in some rural areas and generally on the grand scheme of things, a lot of that cloud will

begin to burn its way off once again. we'll to see again. and we'll start to see those intervals developing again. and we'll start to see those will intervals developing again. and we'll start to see those will intwarm developing again. and we'll start to see those will intwarm onceloping and it will feel warm once again. we though, start again. we will, though, start to see more a breeze see a much more of a breeze around tomorrow compared to today. so that's going to make it cooler, particularly it feel cooler, particularly along some eastern coastal areas. further inland areas. but further inland through the midlands, down towards central southern areas of generally rather of england, generally rather warm, high pressure, though, is not going to last into the end of the week because this area of low pressure in the atlantic low pressure out in the atlantic is start its is going to start to drift its way as we head into friday. way in as we head into friday. so outbursts rain, so some heavy outbursts of rain, perhaps thunderstorms perhaps some thunderstorms pushing thing across pushing in first thing across wales, , into northern wales, england, into northern ireland that will tend ireland as well. that will tend to peter its out. so to peter its way out. so scotland generally staying largely with some sunny largely dry with some sunny intervals. further intervals. but we've got further rain cards as we head rain on the cards as we head towards friday, towards the end of friday, turning around some turning quite windy around some coastal areas as well into the weekend, though, a bit of a northwest split by by northwest southeast split by by the temperatures rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .

gb news. well. hello, a very good evening. >> it's me, patrick. he's identifying as the formidable jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight after military families staying on the raf. wethersfield base were given just a week's notice to pack up their lives and make room for asylum seekers. the home office has claimed that some migrants have quit at the base over supposed conditions, wanting to move back to hotels. in fact, the biggest joke of all of this is that they're being allowed to move in with their relatives who already live here. it an already live here. it is an absolute farce. they be absolute farce. they will be speaking army wife whose speaking to an army wife whose family moved off base. family was moved off the base. good enough brave men good enough for our brave men and serve our country. good enough for our brave men and those serve our country. good enough for our brave men and those migrantsrve our country. good enough for our brave men and those migrants ,'e our country. good enough for our brave men and those migrants , well, country. good enough for our brave men and those migrants , well, of untry. but those migrants, well, of course, they don't quite fancy it. now, i am sure some of you have children and grandchildren anxiously awaiting their a—level results tomorrow. good luck, everybody . good luck. but some everybody. good luck. but some universities have been telling foreign students to , quote, get foreign students to, quote, get ahead of the game before young

brits get their results tomorrow and scramble for places during the clearing zone. this is an outrage scandal. the british taxpayer should take notice of this and try to stop it. but it's one thing closing a bank account down for non aligning values. but now we're cancelling comedy for it as well. a sold out gig organised by gb news, very own andrew doyle and father ted writer graham linehan was set to perform tomorrow night before it was cancelled for quote, being too controversial. believe it or not, that controversial view, by the way, is that women are women and a man with full genitalia should not be going anywhere near a female. changing room. yes, remarkable. but get this, the lionesses, an absolute triumph. they beat the hosts. australia 3—1. today they're into a world cup final . they're going to take cup final. they're going to take on the spanish. i really do think that they will win as well. you add that to the euros. but the question i'm asking is whether or not we will their