well. hello and good afternoon. >> welcome to gb news on your tv, on your digital radio. i'm dawn neesom filling in for the lovely nana akua having a well—deserved rest and for the next three hours, me and my wonderful panellist be wonderful panellist will be taking the big taking on some of the big topics, hitting the headlines right now. >> this show all >> this show is all about opinion in mind. >> but most importantly >> there's but most importantly yours, not actually that yours, we're not actually that important reading. yours, we're not actually that importan beading. yours, we're not actually that importan be debating, discussing >> we'd be debating, discussing and times disagreeing in a and at times disagreeing in a nice though. nice way, though. >> me for the next hour >> joining me for the next hour is broadcaster and columnist lydia sandy. looking gorgeous , lydia sandy. looking gorgeous, as always, political commentator matthew stadlen probably looking equally gorgeous, very moody equally gorgeous, yet very moody and in a few moments i'll be mucking up the week with comedian frances foster , who comedian frances foster, who also gorgeous. also looks gorgeous. >> gorgeous panels today. also looks gorgeous. >> before gorgeous panels today. also looks gorgeous. >> before we 1eous panels today. also looks gorgeous. >> before we get s panels today. also looks gorgeous. >> before we get starteds today. also looks gorgeous. >> before we get started , today. also looks gorgeous. >> before we get started , let'sl. but before we get started, let's get the latest news headlines with the gorgeous tamsin with the very gorgeous tamsin roberts . roberts. >> dawn, thank you so much. good

afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's 3:01. the lawyers representing the families of two of lucy letby victims have called the independent inquiry inadequate. the government ordered a non—statutory investigation after the former nurses conviction yesterday. it will look at the circumstance surrounding the deaths and incidents , including how incidents, including how concerns raised by clinicians were dealt with . in a statement, were dealt with. in a statement, the lawyer said the inquiry doesn't have the power to compel witnesses to provide evidence or produce documents and therefore it lacks real teeth. let be was found guilty of the murder of seven babies and the attempted murder of six others. she'll be sentenced on monday, six a therapist, lucy beresford , says therapist, lucy beresford, says her personality may have helped her personality may have helped her avoid suspicion for so long. >> her colleagues found her very warm and approachable and likeable and the paediatrician who tried to raise the alarm about her allegedly at one point thought to himself, oh

about her allegedly at one point thought to himself , oh gosh, not thought to himself, oh gosh, not nice. lucy because there was a side to her that was very genial and that's what makes her crimes so doubly shocking that she could have this exterior of normality and pleasantness , but normality and pleasantness, but actually be capable of these crimes . crimes. >> pakistani police are seeking to arrest the father of saira sharif in connection with her murder. the ten year old's body was found at her home in woking last thursday morning after police received a call from irfan sharif from pakistan. police believe he travelled to islamabad with sarah's stepmother, uncle and five children a day before sarah's body was discovered. detectives say she suffered extensive injuries over a sustained period of time . criminal gangs have of time. criminal gangs have been condemned by maritime experts for pushing small boats out into the channel during storm betty , coastguard and storm betty, coastguard and border force vessels have been called to deal with reports of migrant boats in the sea in

treacherous conditions, at least three were intercepted in uk waters this morning. gb news understands around 100 people were on board. it comes as just a week after six migrants drowned attempt the crossing age uk says hundreds of thousands of older people missed out on financial support for their energy bills. the charity claims more than 700,000 households didn't receive help from the energy bills support scheme. alternative fund. it was set up for people with non direct supply arrangements such as those living in care homes , those living in care homes, mobile homes or on boats . but mobile homes or on boats. but age uk says the fund had completely flopped due to a complicated application process and a lack of publicity . a and a lack of publicity. a protest over the closure of railway ticket offices will be staged outside downing street later this month . the rmt union later this month. the rmt union says it will stage a mass rally on the 31st of august, which is the last day of the consultation

process. it warns the move to close up to 1000 offices will put more than 2000 jobs at risk . the planned action comes as cross country train workers staged the first of four strikes over working conditions. rmt members will also walk out over the next three saturdays . a the next three saturdays. a state of emergency has been declared in canada's western province of british columbia, where wildfires are threatening homes. thousands of people have been evacuated from the area as fires burn in the hills and mountains above west kelowna. strong winds are fanning the flames with a fire service warning the blaze could reach the outskirts of the city by this weekend . canada is facing this weekend. canada is facing its worst season on record with more than 1000 active fires burning across the country . the burning across the country. the manager of the lionesses says her team is buoyed by the level of support ahead of tomorrow's world cup final. england take on

spain playing to win the trophy for the first time. lauren james, who served a two match suspension following her red card against nigeria , could card against nigeria, could start tomorrow. manager sarina wiegman says it's the same as any other game . any other game. >> i never take anything for granted, but also now playing another finals. yeah what i said is really special, but we just preparing for a game and yes it is a final , but we don't do is a final, but we don't do anything different than we do normally . normally. >> well, captain millie bright says they'll have to play the game of their lives. >> i think everyone knows how big this is. i think it's been players dreams for years. so i think everyone already knows that. and we know how passionate our nation is back home and how much they'd they'd want us to win. but for us as a process, we have a game execute. and have a game plan to execute. and like sabrina said, we need to play like sabrina said, we need to play game our lives. play the game of our lives. >> long to go now . well, >> and not long to go now. well, this news across uk on this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car on digital radio

and on smart speaker by and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now though it's back to dawn . it's back to dawn. >> thank you, tamsin. >> thank you, tamsin. >> welcome back . coming up this >> welcome back. coming up this houn >> welcome back. coming up this hour, comedian frances foster will be making light of this week's top stories in muck, the week. feel like that needs some sort of theme tune. >> and here's what else is coming up today. >> world cup fever, you might have noticed there's a little teeny game going on teeny football game going on tomorrow sweeping the country. >> apart from some men, obviously. >> we'll be looking ahead to tomorrow's history making final . plus, having a good laugh at some of the petitions, scrambling to support the team and could artificial intelligence save the nhs.7 >> well, something's got to, hasn't it.7 >> and meanwhile, the government has revealed plans to fast track the introduction of ai into hospitals. i mean, what could possibly go wrong .7 could this be possibly go wrong? could this be the solution the problem ? >> and 7 >> and then at 335, a change of

tone. >> we'll be looking at the psychology behind what drives a monster like nurse lucy. >> let me , after yesterday's >> let me, after yesterday's momentous verdict, i can't like everybody, this story is just a horrifying but really , really horrifying but really, really important insight into what was what has happened with this story. >> and at the end of the hour, it's a political spotlight now featuring deputy leader of the labour party, angela rayner, has let her hair down and possibly more at the edinburgh fringe festival this week, revealing details about her personal life. >> she is copped praise and plenty of criticism and we'll be digging into what exactly she revealed . that's all coming up revealed. that's all coming up in the next hour. but tell me what you think on everything we're discussing by emailing gb views at gb news or tweet me at gb news. very simple . right? gb news. very simple. right? >> it's saturday afternoon.

>> it's saturday afternoon. >> let's have some fun, shall we? it's time to muck the week . we? it's time to muck the week. no, there's still no theme tune slacking . and as we say on slacking. and as we say on nana's show , what a mucky week nana's show, what a mucky week it's been. and it's been especially mucky for our comedy scene. yes, exactly . despite the scene. yes, exactly. despite the edinburgh fringe show in full swing, cancel culture has struck again . and comedian graham again. and comedian graham linehan is the creator of father ted and a troupe of other comedians work cancelled by the leith arches venue over apparently holding transphobic views . well, so much for a free views. well, so much for a free speech at a comedy festival that is all about being alternative, right ? okay, so let's find out right? okay, so let's find out what exactly has been going off now in edinburgh lyneham , now in edinburgh lyneham, linehan cancelled not once, but twice. isn't he third time. yeah. because he had to perform actually outside the scottish parliament building because the two venues that are booked him actually bowed down to bullying, i think you call it to be honest

with right now joining me to with you right now joining me to delve a fun way into delve down in a fun way into this story is comedian frances foster. and now frances, free speech dead at the edinburgh fringe , which is all about free fringe, which is all about free speech and comedy. what happens ? you were you involved in this? aren't you ? aren't you? >> well, no, i wasn't involved in cancellation . no, that's in his cancellation. no, that's not i did, actually . that's not what i did, actually. that's why i'm here to see. why i'm here. i'm here to see. explain. why cancel graham? no huge graham work. huge fan of graham and his work. a genius . a comedic genius. >> don't use those words lightly. >> responsible for such brilliant programmes as bros. i the it crowd, father ted black books, etcetera, etcetera. but what you're seeing in comedy is fascinating because it's not the edinburgh fringe festival , it's edinburgh fringe festival, it's the edinburgh conformity festival . and what it means is festival. and what it means is if you stray beyond certain parameters of what is deemed acceptable and unacceptable suitable, you will be cancelled . and what is really interesting is you look at that line—up. >> then was one comedian >> then there was one comedian on line up is on that line up who is a traditional conspiracy theorist

i >> -- >> he believes in quite far out conspiracies, but that's great. >> that's his right. >> that's his right. >> no one, no one has a problem with that. no one has a problem with that. no one has a problem with the fact that he's a little with that. no one has a problem wit tonto. act that he's a little with that. no one has a problem wit tonto. act “graham. a little with that. no one has a problem wit tonto. act “graham comesa bit tonto. yet graham comes along says, you know what? along and says, you know what? maybe a 12 maybe a woman can't have a 12 inch maybe a woman can't have a 12 inciout go, mate . >> out you go, mate. >> out you go, mate. >> door's there, son. >> the door's over there, son. >> family viewing , right. >> family viewing, right. >> family viewing, right. >> okay. yeah, i'm not going to dwell on that particular. so but this is it's insane because this is all about actually , all is all about actually, all graham did was talk about women's rights. and this is something that amazing comedians like ricky gervais, ricky gervais make jokes about, you know, women's rights and the transphobic debate , but he's transphobic debate, but he's selling out stadiums around the world. so why do we have a problem with someone like graham, a small a small venue ? graham, a small a small venue? let's be honest in edinburgh, because the reality is ricky is so big that he's essentially un cancelable . cancelable. >> same with dave chappelle. when you get to a certain level of success and notoriety and fame and you can generate

millions and millions of dollars for companies like netflix or amazon and you can fill out stadiums around the world, nobody is going to want to cancel you because everybody's making penny off it. >> but someone like graham, who can't command that type of revenue , all of sudden he revenue, all of a sudden he becomes fair game for this type of behaviour . of behaviour. >> we've got >> and meanwhile we've got frankie jokes about frankie boyle making jokes about rape banned rape and graham was also banned from twitter at point, from twitter at one point, wasn't who let the taliban wasn't he, who let the taliban have account ? have an account? >> yeah, absolutely. we all >> yeah, absolutely. but we all know graham more know that graham has far more problematic views in the taliban. >> well, course taliban. >> well, yeah, of course. >> well, yeah, of course. >> i yeah, i mean, you >> i mean, yeah, i mean, you have say as well, the taliban have to say as well, the taliban are pretty gender critical. >> can yeah, they >> okay. they can be. yeah, they don't a very high opinion don't have a very high opinion of unlike yes. of women, unlike graham. yes. who women who actually just supports women . i see. let's talk . i don't see. but let's talk balls, shall we? yes. as in football's as in the tiny weeny . i think it's a world cup going on tomorrow morning, 11:00. no one's mentioned it much. >> yes. what do you make about all the fuss around this and the fact men aren't fact that some men aren't getting be involved as they getting be as involved as they should be? getting be as involved as they shoyou be? getting be as involved as they shoyou think that men should be

>> you think that men should be involved? what about the men that like football wives that don't like football wives if like football that don't like football wives if if like football that don't like football wives if if liidon't tball that don't like football wives if if liidon't want to games, if they don't want to watch it? >> e football? >> do you like football? >> do you like football? >> football, yeah. >> i do like football, yeah. okay. no, no one okay. yeah. well, no, no, no one should forced to watch it. should be forced to watch it. i'm were going to i'm glad you were going to advocate people to be forced. >> girls try >> actually, yeah. girls try your husbands not in that your husbands up. not in that way. not way. obviously we're not going down road. sure down that road. make sure they're watching down that road. make sure thande watching down that road. make sure thand enjoying watching down that road. make sure thand enjoying it, watching down that road. make sure thand enjoying it, because 1g down that road. make sure thand enjoying it, because some it and enjoying it, because some of those goals spectacular . of those goals are spectacular. now the that is this now it's the fact that is this making women's football more acceptable to boys. i mean, you're a what you think? you're a boy. what do you think? >> make it more >> well, is it make it more acceptable ? look, i think acceptable? look, i think i actually i don't actually think it's important that it's it's that important that it's making acceptable to making it more acceptable to men. i'm being honest, men. if i'm being honest, i think that's completely irrelevant. what's irrelevant. i think what's actually important actually more important is that it goes into sport. i was it gets goes into sport. i was in the other day, i was walking down the road in london and i saw a little girl and she was wearing an england shirt. i think that is absolutely brilliant . think that is absolutely brilliant. but i think brilliant. but i don't think that anybody should be pressured into . going that anybody should be pressured into. going to that anybody should be pressured into . going to watch it. that anybody should be pressured into. going to watch it. i'm not going to go and watch it. i am going to go and watch it. i am going to go and watch it. i am

going to do dawn what a sunday morning is meant for, and i'm going oppenheimer i'm going to watch oppenheimer. i'm going to watch oppenheimer. i'm going story a going to watch the story of a man designed man who basically designed some technology , which is going technology, which is going to mean world for us mean the end of the world for us in years. that's how in about 30 years. that's how you sunday morning. you spend a sunday morning. >> not to going watch >> you are not to going watch the you know , graham the football. you know, graham lynam the only comedian lynam isn't the only comedian about to get cancelled this week . joining that list . you could be joining that list . and finally, word on . and finally, a quick word on the great museum heist, the great. what's that about? >> well, i find it ironic, really, because if you want you know what let's just put it know what the let's just put it like this british museum is taking artefacts from all around the world and collecting it in one place. now, as i explained to a greek ex—girlfriend of mine , we needed that, darling, , we needed to do that, darling, because was you, you because if it was up to you, you would ruined them. you would have ruined them. and you didn't properly. didn't look after them properly. you british to do you needed the british to do that anyway. broken that anyway. we've broken up now. why, no, now. i don't know why, but no, i can't why. possibly. i bet now. i don't know why, but no, i can'just why. possibly. i bet now. i don't know why, but no, i can'just watching ossibly. i bet now. i don't know why, but no, i can'just watching the bly. i bet now. i don't know why, but no, i can'just watching the football. you just watching the football. yeah, is, actually. yeah, she probably is, actually. but look this and you but but you look at this and you think why? it's gone missing. the bloke hasn't been charged and he's been fired. can you do that. can you. if he's convict

of theft, then firing . oh, of theft, then firing. oh, that's the part of this i don't really get. >> that's right. i mean it was only trash dating back 3400 years. yes >> isn't there. oh, look, i spend a lot of time in america. knock knock it down. mow down. you know , can you bracelet? it's you know, can you bracelet? it's old. it's a bit knackered. it's junk. >> go down your boot sale of flogging. yeah >> you can probably buy something know, something nicer. you know, claire's accessories. i'll just pull no other shops are pull that up. no other shops are available, by the way. pull that up. no other shops are avayesle, by the way. pull that up. no other shops are avayes ,5, by the way. pull that up. no other shops are avayes , right.ie way. pull that up. no other shops are avayes , right. okay.. >> yes, right. okay. that is another comedian is now added to the council list because it's not lionesses. not watching the lionesses. tomorrow so, frances, whatever your is. bye. thank you. your name is. bye. thank you. >> very much . thank >> thank you very much. thank you. much. you. thank you very much. >> , host of the >> frances foster, host of the trigonometry podcast, trigonometry. >> yes. kick it out and a headline, as well as on tomorrow. tomorrow hosting where you're not talking about the football , obviously. football, obviously. >> meanwhile, i'll move on july under new plans from the government, artificial intelligence will be fast track to hospital in an effort to overhaul the nhs . works with overhaul the nhs. works with businesses nhs chief says it

businesses and nhs chief says it will help clear the backlog by streamlining bureaucratic processes in the nhs. and god , processes in the nhs. and god, they need it now. coming to coming to join me to discuss this and explain what the hell's actually going on. is health and social affairs editor at the sunday express, lucy johnston . sunday express, lucy johnston. and there you are, lucy. thank you so much forjoining me on a saturday afternoon. lucy, what you so much forjoining me on a setheiay afternoon. lucy, what you so much forjoining me on a sethe story?3rnoon. lucy, what you so much forjoining me on a sethe story? actuallyucy, what you so much forjoining me on a sethe story? actually about1at you so much forjoining me on a sethe story? actually about ?t is the story? actually about? >> well, it is a bit confusing and i did have to look quite hard and speak to a few people. what's happened is that the nhs, england , one of the chiefs of england, one of the chiefs of the commercial arm of that, has just reduced trying to reduce the red tape just to make it easier for tech companies and companies to do business with the nhs . so it's a bit niche, the nhs. so it's a bit niche, but at the same time they have fast tracked and ai software program that will allow radiothon therapy to differentiate between cancer and non cancer, and that can save or

hopefully will save hours of time of clinical time, which in turn could help reduce waiting lists because it allows clinic clinician to spend time with patients. so that's really good. it's a specific area of ai and in fact ai is has been shown to be far better than the human eye at picking up cancer from scans . so it's already used in breast cancer and even dermatology skin cancen cancer and even dermatology skin cancer. and it can detect about 50 different types of eye conditions . so it's a great tool conditions. so it's a great tool to have in the toolbox and it can save time as a as an additional thing for clinicians. but still, we're not there yet where we don't have those double checked by clinicians. it's not yet replacing those clinicians. they check over . they check over. >> okay. and the other element to it is it to improve the supply chain, isn't it to make

it easier for small and medium sized businesses to supply a sprawling nhs, which at the moment is a massive disorganised? >> you oh, you can't hear me ? >> you oh, you can't hear me? hello, how are you ? hello, how are you? >> oh, lucy, i'm sorry . we've >> oh, lucy, i'm sorry. we've got a sound problem there with lucy. hopefully we'll be able to get her back and continue discussing this story because it's a lot more complicated. and hopefully it's good news right ? hopefully it's good news right? okay, we going to go and see okay, we are going to go and see what the weather's doing. in any case, ai for case, at least don't need ai for that. see how warm and that. let's see how warm and sunny is this lovely sunny it is on this lovely weekend. looks like things weekend. it looks like things are heating up . are heating up. >> boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest news weather forecast . latest news weather forecast. over the next 24 hours or so, we will see further showers largely focussed towards the north—west. the winds are easing as storm betty generally eases and moves away from the uk , allowing high

away from the uk, allowing high pressure to build in from the south. so the best of the sunshine over the next few days will be towards the south—east of the uk into this evening time . still fairly breezy across parts northern ireland, parts of northern ireland, north—west with north—west scotland with frequent overnight. frequent showers here overnight. clear spells developing across parts of the midlands , eastern parts of the midlands, eastern england. and despite this, it will still be a warm night to come. still breezy around some western coast temperatures, generally 15 or 16 celsius in towns and cities. even the towns and cities. even in the countryside , holding up in countryside, holding up in double figures. so sunday morning, bright start. there morning, a bright start. there will a scattering showers will be a scattering of showers from across western from the word go across western parts uk as we move parts of the uk as we move through the morning. the best of the across parts of the sunshine across parts of the east midlands into east anglia, southeast the southeast england into the afternoon. we will see. we will see some heavy showers see some scattered heavy showers developing, but lots of places will dry. still breezy will stay dry. still breezy across far northwest. across the far northwest. temperatures, high teens to low 20s, around 25 or 26, perhaps towards the southeast of england into monday . the towards the southeast of england into monday. the similar start to the weekend really , we'll see

to the weekend really, we'll see showers across the west. best of the sunshine across central and southeastern parts and through the day, temperatures will lift into the low 20s. it stays fine and dry tuesday and wednesday for many of us. >> looks like things are heating up. boxed boilers , proud up. boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> not too bad then, right? you're with dawn neesom on gb news on your tv and on digital radio. loads more to come. i'll be chatting with a behavioural psychologist to get her take on the appalling lucy letby story and what what makes a woman a monster? because that's how she's been described . how could she's been described. how could someone be so evil ? plus angela someone be so evil? plus angela rayner has raised some eyebrows at the edinburgh festival , at the edinburgh festival, letting her hair down and spilling secrets about her personal life . but should personal life. but should politicians really keep their private lives private and much more? and that all coming up

news. the people's channel. britain's news . news. the people's channel. britain's news. channel >> and welcome back. you were dawn neesom on gb news on tv and on digital radio. now it's time for some travel news. it's peak houday for some travel news. it's peak holiday season . record numbers holiday season. record numbers are expected at numerous airports in the coming weeks. it's almost like coming back to school, period, as well. and of course, there is some more real misery its way. who'd have misery on its way. who'd have thought? planned thought? with strikes planned

for next two saturdays, for the next two saturdays, i'd almost lost the plot with who's going when? now but going on strike when? now but someone actually bring someone that can actually bring us up to date on what a disaster. planes trains and automobiles a travel automobiles are is a travel correspondent for the independent , the very lovely independent, the very lovely simon is , as usual, simon calder, who is, as usual, hanging around an airport. afternoon, simon. hello how are you doing? >> all very good . >> all very good. >> all very good. >> and i'm dying to say that here at gatwick, with the exception of one flight from the isle of man, which is coming in about late, things about eight hours late, things are pretty well are actually working pretty well . and as you see behind me, . and as you can see behind me, i'm international arrivals in i'm an international arrivals in the terminal. people the north terminal. people flooding in from their holidays . it's very day to day, . it's a very busy day to day, going be busier next going to be even busier next week. and goodness , if you are week. and goodness, if you are looking ahead to the days after that , the fares that are being that, the fares that are being commanded from airlines bringing you back from spain to the uk are at levels i've simply never seen. are at levels i've simply never seen . so, for instance, 31st of seen. so, for instance, 31st of august coming back from

beautiful malaga to lovely london heathrow , british london heathrow, british airways, the cheapest ticket you've got that day is . £611. you've got that day is. £611. and just to give you some idea, that's flying from male in just under three hours to london heathrow , if you're going in the heathrow, if you're going in the opposite direction, heathrow to sydney, australia, you could pay an awful lot less than that. so people paying whatever it costs to get back after the holidays that they've been missing, many of them for the last three summers. that is utter madness. >> what would that flight cost normally? simon >> well, normally you would be expecting to pay 100, £150 on those sorts of routes. >> but there's just extreme demand. >> and if you're travelling out in the other direction, if you're lucky enough to be going off a holiday for the august off for a holiday for the august bank holiday weekend, or ideally a few days after that, then fares are back down to sort of sense possible levels. but at

the moment , sense possible levels. but at the moment, anybody who's got any flight seats coming in and also applies on easyjet, on ryanair , on jet2, it's really , ryanair, on jet2, it's really, really tough to find any any decent prices. >> extraordinary times. >> extraordinary times. >> but having said that , it >> but having said that, it means people are, i hope, having wonderful holidays that they will remember exactly . will remember exactly. >> and of course, i mean, they could always stay in this country and have a staycation using the trains or possibly not. >> oh, i was i was hoping you weren't going to mention that . weren't going to mention that. >> yeah. you talked about the strikes which are coming up over the next two saturday. that's august the 26th. and it's september the 2nd. those are both the rmt union in dispute with 14 train operators only in england. this is over pay and working arrangements. basically same . it's going to be on monday same. it's going to be on monday for 18 months since they began striking . and we just heard striking. and we just heard overnight that the aslef train

drivers union is also going on strike on friday the 1st of september. >> all of those, of course, chosen because they are really busy days, people getting back from the seaside at the end of houday from the seaside at the end of holiday weekenders heading abroad , heading away for the abroad, heading away for the weekend . weekend. >> and i'm afraid it just shows what an absolute mess the railways are in. you cannot plan anything more than two weeks ahead if you're travelling on the railways of england . the railways of england. transport for wales. scotrail absolutely fine. by the way, as is northern ireland railways. >> but for those english train operators, we're going to see thousands of trains cancelled . thousands of trains cancelled. >> just to mark your card. again it's going to be bad on the 26th of august, in the 2nd of september, both of those saturdays . but actually aslef september, both of those saturdrivers3ut actually aslef september, both of those saturdrivers ,jt actually aslef september, both of those saturdrivers , when|ally aslef september, both of those saturdrivers , when they aslef september, both of those saturdrivers , when they go ef september, both of those saturdrivers , when they go on train drivers, when they go on strike, they have more of an effect. and that's on friday. the 1st of september. no sign of any progress in talks. the two sides last met in april and they haven't met with ministers since

january. so i'm afraid no great urgency to sort this out. one insider and one of the big unions can't tell you who said he doesn't think it's to going change until there is a change of government. oh >> oh, god, yeah. i love you to bits, but you're really not helping. cheer me up by telling me somewhere nice and cheap and accessible i can go to this accessible that i can go to this autumn. where's the best place to to ? to head to? >> oh, undoubtedly. the lithuanian. in late september , lithuanian. in late september, going into october, avoiding, of course , the october half term , course, the october half term, which always pushes prices up. but personally, i'm heading dawn for rhodes beautiful island . for rhodes beautiful island. they desperately need help after the wildfires. of course, that caused so much , so, so much caused so much, so, so much distress for both holidaymakers about 20,000 people evacuated and also the local people, of course, many of them lost their homes. so they need a bit of support. and from all the reports i've heard since tourism kind of restarted there, it's

absolutely business as usual. so i'm going to go there, have a look around and probably relax by the beach, maybe even having a glass of beer and a bite to eat at a lovely beachside taverna. and yeah, honestly , taverna. and yeah, honestly, once you get out of the school holidays, then suddenly the bargains start returning. so. yep late, late september, early october is going to be perfect time. i'll see you at the taverna . taverna. >> you're tempting me big time. just very, very quickly, simon, one final question. is it too late to get to australia now? wouldn't make it in time for the game tomorrow . game tomorrow. >> it is now because i'm fortunately you simply aren't enough hours in the day . but enough hours in the day. but yeah, we have seen a bit of a surge. the agents have report ing people desperate to get out to see the lionesses let's just stay here, wish them well and plan better for the next world cup . cup. >> come on, simon. >> come on, simon. >> quick prediction from me. i'm asking today. asking everyone today. >> oh , yes, well, england has to

be. >> no, no question. >> no, no question. >> how many goals? oh, it's an exciting match. >> thank you very much. that's simon calder hanging around an airport, as usual. thanks so much joining us. simon much forjoining us. simon right. you're with dawn neesom on gb news, your tv and on on gb news, on your tv and on digital radio. still ahead, should politicians keep their private private ? angela private lives private? angela rayner been spilling the rayner has been spilling the beans about being a vape dragon at and getting very naughty in ibiza. do you care, though ? up ibiza. do you care, though? up next, what makes a monster ? i'll next, what makes a monster? i'll speak to a psychologist about how a killer nurse , lucy letby. how a killer nurse, lucy letby. i'm sorry to talk about story, but it's so awful. we need to talk about it. could commit such horrific and evil crimes. but first, here's the latest news headunes first, here's the latest news headlines with tamsin roberts . headlines with tamsin roberts. >> dawn, thanks very much . here >> dawn, thanks very much. here are the headlines at 330. the lawyers representing the families of two of lucy libby's victims have called the independent inquiry inadequate.

the government ordered a non—statutory investigation into the cases after the former nurses conviction yesterday. letby was found guilty of the murder of seven babies and the attempted murder of six others. in a statement, the lawyer said the inquiry doesn't have the power to compel witnesses to provide evidence or produce documents and therefore lacks real teeth . letby will be real teeth. letby will be sentenced on monday . pakistani sentenced on monday. pakistani police are seeking to arrest the father of saira sharif in connection with her murder. the ten year old's body was found at her home in woking last thursday morning after police received a call from irfan sharif from pakistan. police believe he travelled to islamabad with sarah's stepmother, uncle and five children a day before sarah's body was discovered. detectives say she'd suffered extensive injuries over a sustained period of time . sustained period of time. criminal gangs have been condemned by maritime experts for pushing small boats out into

the channel during storm betty. coastguard and border force vessels have been called to deal with reports of migrant boats in the sea in treacherous condition . at least three were intercepted in uk waters this morning. gb news understands around 100 people were on board. it comes just a week after six migrants drowned attempting the crossing . the manager of the crossing. the manager of the lionesses says her team is buoyed by the level of support ahead of tomorrow's world cup final. england take on spain playing to win the trophy for the first time. lauren james, who served a two match suspension following her red card against nigeria, could start tomorrow . what you can get start tomorrow. what you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , gb visiting our website, gb news.com. now, though , it's back news.com. now, though, it's back to dawn . thank you very much, tamsin. >> welcome back. coming up, world cup excitement reaches

fever pitch certainly with me as a lionesses prepare for a historic final tomorrow. don't go anywhere. that's all coming up

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letby could have been stopped sooner . hospital bosses are sooner. hospital bosses are under fire after it emerged they failed to act when doctors raised the alarm about letby the government has ordered inquiry. we all know how long they take. and what happened into the case after the former neonatal nurse was found guilty of murdering seven babies and trying to kill six others. she's the uk's most prolific killer of babies in modern times . but how could modern times. but how could anyone even possibly under take these horrendous attacks on the most defenceless people in our society . i'm joined actually in society. i'm joined actually in the studio to with dennis mcshane to talk about other things that are happening in politics. but dennis, this is such a gut wrenchingly horrible story. i'm trying to talk to everybody about it today. what do you take of what what's happened here? >> well, i wish you had because i couldn't bear the reports

listening to them yesterday . listening to them yesterday. >> i have a two and a half year old toddler grandson who's the light of my life, a seven month old baby grand daughter and a third one brother to the grandson arriving next month . grandson arriving next month. and it's just not speakable. >> it's you can't. it's it is such a shock because it's a woman and it's a nurse. but i'm not entirely sure why we are that shocked because these things do do happen and because it's a woman we almost excuse us, the fact that we weren't suspicious in the first place. but the one thing that i have been literally stunned by this story , dennis, is the fact that story, dennis, is the fact that there were a group of four doctors who complained to the managers of this nhs trust that they were suspicious about. let s behaviour. i'm not going to call it lucy. i'm not going to let they let this behaviour and yet the nhs trust didn't do

anything about it in fact they said, look , you know, we. she said, look, you know, we. she then complained that they were bullying her. so so they had to apologise to this monster because that's what she is. what do you make of the fact that the nhs trust didn't act as soon as the doctors raised concerns ? the doctors raised concerns? >> it's very sad. so typical. think of the police think of other examples in other professions where bad things nothing remotely as horrible as this happens and the institutional bureaucracy of a given profession , a given given profession, a given institution just goes into automatic. it's like something in a roman war thing. you know, they all huddled down into a sort of tortoise and you can't penetrate them and that's it. we have this problem. i'm not the biggest fan of the word blob, but the blob is so self defensive, it doesn't matter . defensive, it doesn't matter. it's right or left or what the position is. it's so as

newspapers are by far the worst. have you ever seen a newspaper on the front page apologising for telling lies about one of its victims , inventing stuff, its victims, inventing stuff, making stuff up, destroying people ? i mean, the sheer amount people? i mean, the sheer amount of pain you might think it's not death. of course it is. and we just, you know, something saying sorry shouldn't be the hardest thing to do. and saying stop should be the easiest thing to do. >> well, if they had listened to these doctors , we're going to these doctors, we're going to come back and talk some more in a minute, dennis. think we a minute, dennis. i think we actually our hemmings actually have ourjo hemmings behind a behavioural psychologist joining us now to help us try and underscore stand what creates a monster. help us try and underscore stand what creates a monster . jo, what creates a monster. jo, there you are. thank you very much for joining there you are. thank you very much forjoining us this much for joining us this afternoon on talking about such afternoon on talking about such a horrific story . jo i mean, a horrific story. jo i mean, letby was called by both the

judge and the head police officer in this case, evil and a monster for how how did she become this creature ? i don't become this creature? i don't look, it's really difficult for us to sort of work this out, you know, profiling a serial killer is a combination of nature and nurture. >> and a lot of it is down to you. you can pinpoint the stereotypic serial killer who's come from a, you know, a sad or abusive family background , has abusive family background, has got no friends. you know , has no got no friends. you know, has no social ties. this girl had none of that to the very loving family . she had good friends, family. she had good friends, very supportive friends. and you know, one has to think, therefore, in the balance of nature and nurture, this is nature. this is someone and i don't use the word very often, but evil who was born that way, who perhaps even went in to the nursing profession because she knew she would have access to vulnerable patients. in this case vulnerable babies , and just

case vulnerable babies, and just had that there was no clear motive from her background as to why she might have done it. and you can only say in those very rare and tragic cases that somebody is compelled by partly a psychopathic nature, a deep narcissist and a lack of any feelings , any remorse, any feelings, any remorse, any emotion at all to do these tragic things. and it's just very difficult for us to get our heads around how somebody could present in one way to friends and family and colleagues and then behave. and this horrific manner in their job. >> so you do think, joe, that it's is fair to describe her as a psychopath ? a psychopath? >> i do. look, i'm very careful in the words that i use about people want to sit here diagnosing. however to be very excuse me, very difficult to even if you could piece together

some sort of motivations, some revenge, something had happened to her, actually, that psychopath nature, which really consists of someone who has no sense of guilt, no sense of remorse, no empathy, no compassion . yeah. and goes out compassion. yeah. and goes out and kills. yes, i think you would be fair in this particular instance to call her a psychopath . psychopath. >> and all people born psychopaths or do they develop psychopathic tendencies . psychopathic tendencies. >> it's a combination of both. i think some people are born psychopaths and actually with a lot of care and love and help and whatever they can sometimes not even recognise or they have very mild tendencies . you would very mild tendencies. you would never call them that. you might call them a bit cold emotionally or they might not be able to express any way. express themselves in any way. you find them at odd . um, you might find them at odd. um, in case, that's what you in her case, that's what you would have expected with her background but yes. are background. but people yes. are born , i suppose, born evil, such born, i suppose, born evil, such as ? strange thing for as? strange thing for psychologists , but psychologists to say, but certainly a propensity

certainly born with a propensity to behave like this. and unrestrained that just don't have any guilt. they don't have any sense that that we normally are born with. that develops on top of that, that we are doing something extraordinarily wrong . that doesn't appear to be the way she felt. >> joe. i mean, she has shown no emotion and that is that i think the one thing that has shocked the one thing that has shocked the professionals involved, the judge and the police officers covering this case, another issue that has been potentially mentioned in connection with letby is munchausen syndrome. do you think there are elements of that as well ? you may possibly. that as well? you may possibly. >> i'm not sure it's particularly relevant. munchausen, by proxy, in this particular instance , my feeling particular instance, my feeling is she may well have gone into the nursing profession with the intent of doing this . so it's intent of doing this. so it's not about any kind of projection of her own concerns. it's

literally it's cold blooded . literally it's cold blooded. it's going into professional, particularly neonatal, the most vulnerable of all patients on newborn babies with difficulties . we can see her notes , the . we can see her notes, the things she wrote about, you know, they didn't start with her. so i think she yes, in a cold blooded way, went into this part of the medical profession. she won't be the first. we have beverly allitt. we had harold shipman, but she went in there knowing what she was going to do and she executed it in a cold blooded way . blooded way. >> i find that utterly shocking that if that was why she went into nursing , that if that was why she went into nursing, i'm that if that was why she went into nursing , i'm absolutely into nursing, i'm absolutely stunned . and joe, if she is a stunned. and joe, if she is a psychopath , there will never be psychopath, there will never be any closure for the grieving families of those babies , families of those babies, because i expect then she is never going to explain why she behaved as she did . behaved as she did. >> and that's very common. and exactly the same happen with bev and others. they do not speak about it. anything to any of

the, you know, prison mates or whatever. they just never discuss it again. it's not spoken about. and the only closure these poor families are going to get, if there is some sort of an inquiry into how on earth we ended up with seven consultants apologising to her or of her about her behaviour, and they accused her of something wrongly. so that's the only closure they're going to get, not from her, just from a really thorough investigation into how on earth she was allowed to continue working and utter , utter horror. utter, utter horror. >> so a show . jo hemmings >> so a show. jo hemmings behavioural psychology , thank behavioural psychology, thank you so much forjoining us this afternoon, even though it's an incredibly difficult subject to talk about now, we do move on. it's time for this week's politics spotlight, which does have at least a fun element to it . deputy leader of the labour it. deputy leader of the labour party, angela rayner, has been very open about her lifestyle choices. she's laughed about her

12 hour rave sessions during her recent holiday to ibiza and her liking for a strong cocktail called venom . keir starmer's, called venom. keir starmer's, deputy also revealed that her own children called her the vape dragon due to her reliance on e—cigarette . so i'm asking now e—cigarette. so i'm asking now do politicians have a responsibility to be careful about what they do in their private lives , or certainly what private lives, or certainly what they tell us they get up to in their private lives or should we stop putting public figures on a pedestal ? do we want politicians pedestal? do we want politicians that live real lives like the rest of us do ? joining me to rest of us do? joining me to discuss this is former labour mp denis macshane. you heard from earlier on talking the earlier on talking about the awful creature . what do awful letby creature. what do you make this is a this is angela. she's being interviewed at the edinburgh fringe and on a podcast, and she's being very, very honest about what she got up to in ibiza. very honest about what she got up to in ibiza . 12 hour raves, up to in ibiza. 12 hour raves, sort of stifling drinking at midday, which is ibiza. lots of people do . what do you make of

people do. what do you make of her revealing so much information? >> well , i information? >> well, i guess you could say a couple of years ago we lost one so—called national treasure of bofis so—called national treasure of boris johnson. also is keen on a dnnk boris johnson. also is keen on a drink and exposing himself and doing crazy things and went a bit too far and told lies to parliament. off he went. now we've got another national treasure emerging . i mean, treasure emerging. i mean, everybody in the country's cheering angela on and granny now in she is isn't she ? 43 now in she is isn't she? 43 first child 16 didn't go to eat and didn't go to oxford. she's not multi—billionaire like rishi sunak and all a millionaire like all the other cabinet members. and she goes out of the lash in a way that terrifies me. oh, look, look, i've got doctors, gloria, my family. i'm sure they'll be so censorious when they'll be so censorious when they see this and say, you, dennis, should have dennis, you should have condemned mean , condemned her rubbish. i mean, britain needs cheering up at the moment. and angela, i think is cheered us up. and tomorrow cheered us all up. and tomorrow when the lionesses win, i don't think there'll be a dry glass in the pub . i'm going to watch it.

the pub. i'm going to watch it. >> absolutely good you. the pub. i'm going to watch it. >> i'mbsolutely good you. the pub. i'm going to watch it. >> i'm very|tely good you. the pub. i'm going to watch it. >> i'm very pleasedd you. the pub. i'm going to watch it. >> i'm very pleased about ou. the pub. i'm going to watch it. >> i'm very pleased about that. now, thing labour now, just the thing is, labour does quite a strong policy does have quite a strong policy on on vaping and alcohol and unhealthy behaviour and cigarettes consumption. i mean sort of like, you know , they're sort of like, you know, they're going to change advertising rules. if keir starmer is elected into power regarding alcohol and cigarettes and even looked at banning the sales of cigarettes. now angela's behaviour while she was on holiday, you know, she's having a nice time etcetera and she is a nice time etcetera and she is a real person . but is it sending a real person. but is it sending out mixed messages from the labour party about sort of like, you know, do as we say, don't do as we do ? as we do? >> well, politicians have been doing that since the roman times and i don't think it will affect any of the national health care problems that we all face. all face. one of the best things that happened under the labour government when i was in it was we just stopped smoking in each other's faces in restaurants and generally in the public. a lot

of people said to me, oh, the working class won't buy that. you know, you stop smoking. they're all go vote brexit before you know it, i said, well, i'm sorry. >> seamlessly, we've brexit into that one. >> i'm i'm, you know very, very pro—european . pro—european. >> but no i want us to kill smoke now know angelinos perfectly well what she's doing. people patronise her and this is i mean the ladies give the finger . i'm i mean the ladies give the finger. i'm not sure this is one finger. i'm not sure this is one finger to all the smart westminster lobby people in suits or the big expense lunches sort of denigrating her a bit because she's not like one of them. she didn't go to oxford. she didn't go to winchester or eton. and i think she's just shown them up for what they are and she's just one of the nicest , smartest women in britain . and , smartest women in britain. and i think she's going to be a stellar minister. >> she can use quite fiery rhetoric sometimes times, can't she?i rhetoric sometimes times, can't she? i mean, do you occasion really think that she should maybe dial that down some of the

language she has used certainly about the conservative party has been a bit fruity , to say the been a bit fruity, to say the least. well, we just had the prime minister who's a highly educated winchester and oxford billionaire , saying the labour billionaire, saying the labour party are supporters of crooked lawyers in cahoots with gangsters on this immigration question. >> that's the prime minister talking about a labour party that has governed this country in and out for the last hundred years, sacrifice hugely in the war. it's the working class who pay war. it's the working class who pay the price in wars . i thought pay the price in wars. i thought it was a belief that this mr sunak used language about sir keir starmer, a distinguished consorting with criminal lawyers. that was outrageous. what would you say? >> i mean, i'm semi with you on angela. i think she was a youngest woman having a good time. but what would you say if, say, a working class tory say leander for example, had gone on on the lash, you know, gone to a football game behave, you football game and behave, you know, sort of like hedonistic

early labour would tear him apart for that, surely? >> culture he >> no, the culture i wish he would. least it's wakes would. i mean least it's wakes up every morning and says what racist nonsense i've got racist bit of nonsense i've got . oh let's bring back . oh i know. let's bring back hanging. oh give me a break lee. go to ibiza. get the old venom . go to ibiza. get the old venom. start drinking. seriously and stop talking. >> yes, that's. that's a party you'd want to go to, isn't it? angela rayner and lee in ibiza . angela rayner and lee in ibiza. drinking venom, by the way. dennis has mentioned venom because it's angela's favourite drink, isn't it? you know this, don't and the recipe for don't you? and the recipe for that a of that cocktail is a bottle of vodka , bottle southern vodka, a bottle of southern comfort , ten bottles of blue wkd comfort, ten bottles of blue wkd and a litre of pure orange juice poured into a bucket. >> i had to ask me should i have that herself ? i had to ask my that herself? i had to ask my son what the heck blew wkd is. oh, dad , you used to give that oh, dad, you used to give that to me at everleigh when we were very small. it's sort of 2% alcohol and disgustingly sweet. so there we are. i was already sending my own children down the premises where should premises path where they should have studying for their

have been studying for their gcses . gcses. >> and finally, just just very quickly, in this podcast, by the way, angela also described keir starmer, who , you know, he's starmer, who, you know, he's a boss as a civil servant, which is never a compliment, is it? it's interesting, a german researcher, a political researcher, a political researcher, the european parliament came up to me a few months ago when i was over there and she said, dennis, you speak german? >> can you get sir keir starmer to speak german? i said, what were about? he is were you talking about? he is the of the perfect the german idea of the perfect politician. he's rather boring. he doesn't crack jokes. he reads out a carefully prepared text and doesn't deviate once from it. that is exactly how we think politics should be. >> dennis i'll leave it there . >> dennis i'll leave it there. thank you so much for joining me. that's dennis macshane, a former minister of state for europe and labour mp for rotherham. thank you so for rotherham. thank you so much for joining a sense of joining us and having a sense of humour well . you always dawn joining us and having a sense of humour on well . you always dawn joining us and having a sense of humour on gbl . you always dawn joining us and having a sense of humour on gb news, always dawn joining us and having a sense of humour on gb news, on/ays dawn joining us and having a sense of humour on gb news, on your)awn joining us and having a sense of humour on gb news, on your tv'n neesom on gb news, on your tv and on digital radio. coming up, and on digital radio. coming up, a world cup fever sweeps a country. can the lionesses bring it home tomorrow? plus, more on

that hideous letby story coming up. all after the weather . up. all after the weather. >> the temperatures rising . boxt >> the temperatures rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast . over the next 24 hours or so, we will see further showers largely focussed towards the northwest . the winds are easing northwest. the winds are easing as storm betty generally eases and moves away from the uk, allowing high pressure to build in from the south. so the best of the sunshine over the next few days will be towards the southeast of the uk into this evening time. still fairly breezy parts of northern breezy across parts of northern ireland, north—west scotland with frequent showers here overnight. spells overnight. clear spells developing across parts of the midlands, eastern england and despite this, it will still be a warm night to come. still breezy around some western coast temperatures, generally 15 or 16 celsius in towns and cities , celsius in towns and cities, evenin celsius in towns and cities, even in the countryside, holding

up in double figures. so sunday morning, a bright start. there will scattering showers will be a scattering of showers from across western from the word go across western parts of the uk as we move through the morning. the best of the across the the sunshine across parts of the east midlands into east anglia, southeast into the southeast england into the afternoon . we will we will afternoon. we will see, we will see scattered heavy showers see some scattered heavy showers developing, lots of places developing, but lots of places will still breezy will stay dry. still breezy across the far northwest. temperatures high teens to low 20s, around 25 or 26, perhaps towards the southeast of england into monday. the similar start to the weekend really , we'll see to the weekend really, we'll see showers across the west. best of the sunshine across central and south eastern parts . and through south eastern parts. and through the day, temperatures will lift into the low 20s. it stays fine and dry tuesday and wednesday for many of us. >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> so whether or not to grab your beer dawn neesom on gb news on your tv and on digital radio,

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where hello and welcome to gb news on your tv and on your digital radio. >> i'm dawn neesom filling in for the lovely nana akua who's having a well—earned rest for the next two hours. me and my panel the next two hours. me and my panel, they're already here and they've naughty. they've been very naughty. we'll be the big be taking on some of the big topics headlines topics hit in the headlines right but this show is all right now, but this show is all about opinion. mine are theirs, but importantly , yours will but most importantly, yours will be debating and discussing and at times disagreeing in a cuddly way. it's a weekend . and joining way. it's a weekend. and joining me today, it's drumroll, a broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and political commentator matthew stadlen. though they all right looking fantastic. right. but before we get started, let's get the latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . with tatiana sanchez. >> dawn, thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. >> the lawyers representing the

families of two of lucy libby's victims have called the independent inquiry inadequate. >> the government ordered a non—statutory investigation after the former nurses conviction yesterday. it will look at the circumstances surrounding the deaths and incidents, including how concerns raised by clinicians were dealt with . in a statement, were dealt with. in a statement, the lawyers said the inquiry doesn't have the power to compel witnesses to provide evidence or produce documents and therefore lacks real teeth. letby was found guilty of the murder of seven babies and the attempted murder of six others. she'll be sentenced on monday. psychotherapy lucy beresford says her personality may have helped her avoid suspicion for so long. >> her colleagues found her very warm and approachable and likeable and the paediatrician who tried to raise the alarm about her allegedly at one point thought to himself, oh about her allegedly at one point thought to himself , oh gosh, not thought to himself, oh gosh, not nice lucy, because there was a side to her that was very genial and that's what makes her crimes

so doubly shocking that she could have this exterior of normality and pleasantness. but actually be capable of these crimes . crimes. >> pakistani police are seeking to arrest the father of saira sharif in connection to her murder. the ten year old's body was found at her home in woking last thursday morning after police received a call from irfan sharif from pakistan . irfan sharif from pakistan. police believe he travelled to islamabad with sarah's stepmother, uncle and five children a day before sarah's body was discovered . detectives body was discovered. detectives say she'd suffered extensive injuries over a sustained period of time . criminal gangs have of time. criminal gangs have been condemned by maritime experts for pushing small boats out into the channel during storm betty , coastguard and storm betty, coastguard and border force vessels have been called to deal with reports of migrant boats in the sea in treacherous conditions . at least treacherous conditions. at least three were intercepted in uk waters this morning. gb news understands around 100 people were on board. it comes just a

week after six migrants drowned attempting the crossing . now, attempting the crossing. now, age uk says hundreds of thousands of older people missed out on financial support for their energy bills. the charity claims more than 700,000 households didn't receive help from the energy bills support scheme alternative fund. it was set up for people with non direct supply arrangement, such as those living in care homes. most mobile homes or on boats. but age uk says the fund had completely flopped due to a complicated application process and a lack of publicity . she and a lack of publicity. she a protest over the closure of railway ticket offices will be staged outside downing street later this month. the rmt union says it will stage a mass rally on the 31st of august, which is the last day of the consultation process . it warns the move to process. it warns the move to close up to 1000 offices will put more than 2000 jobs at risk. the planned action comes as crosscountry train workers staged the first of four strikes over working conditions. rmt

members will also walk out over the next three saturdays . a the next three saturdays. a state of emergency has been declared in canada's western province of british columbia, where wildfires are threatening homes. thousands of people have been evacuated from the area as fires burn in the hills and mountains above west kelowna , mountains above west kelowna, strong winds are fanning the flames with the fire service warning the blaze could reach the outskirts of the city by this weekend. canada is facing its worst season on record with more than 1000 active fires burning across the country . now, burning across the country. now, the manager of the lionesses says her team is buoyed by the level of support ahead of tomorrow's world cup final. england play spain to win that trophy for the very first time. lauren james, who served a two match suspension following her red card against nigeria, could start tomorrow. manager sarina wiegman says it's the same as any other game . any other game. >> i never take anything for granted, but also now playing

another finals. yeah, what i said is really special, but we just preparing for a game and yes it is a final, but we don't do anything different than we do normally . normally. >> and captain and millie bright says they'll have to play the game of their lives. >> i think everyone knows how big this is . i think it's been big this is. i think it's been players dreams for years. so i think everyone already knows that. think everyone already knows that . and we know how passionate that. and we know how passionate our nation is back home and how much they'd they'd want us to win. but for us as a process, we have a game plan to execute and like said, we need to like sabrina said, we need to play like sabrina said, we need to play of lives. play the game of our lives. >> you're with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to dawn . now it's back to dawn. >> thank you very much. tatiana now, before we get into the main debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. in the

wake of the lucy letby verdict, we are asking, does the nhs have lessons to learn from the letby murders? and then at 450 its role round up with angela levin, who will be in the studio to give us all the latest from behind the palace walls , a new behind the palace walls, a new netflix documentary as well from prince harry. and what about prince harry. and what about prince william? should he be at that world cup final ? he is that world cup final? he is president of the fa. remember and then at five, it's this week's difficult conversation . week's difficult conversation. we have a really , really lovely we have a really, really lovely special story for you and it's to going be very heartwarming and love. i'm so looking forward to it. six year old woody bly has been he's such a sweetheart . disney has been brave in battling a rare cancer for the past three years. he his family are on a mission to make as many lasting memories and raise awareness of the alternative treatments available. it's an emotional story, woody , his

emotional story, woody, his lovely mum page and matt villers, who has been supporting the family, will be joining me to basically have a cuddle. i think that's coming up today in the show. but tell me what you think of everything we're discussing by emailing . gb views discussing by emailing. gb views at gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. >> right. >> right. >> just in case you haven't noticed, tomorrow's going to be a fairly momentous day for that game football the game called football the lionesses. that's the women who play lionesses. that's the women who play football for england, you know, ones that win things, know, the ones that win things, they taking spain in the they are taking on spain in the world cup final. the last time that england side were men were reach. the world cup final was back in 1966. i was one. yes. i'm that old. the men's team actually went on to win it. so can we do it again? let's hope so. but the most important question we need to address is , question we need to address is, is it coming home? and no, i'm

not going to sing because i really don't hate you or anyone that much. but joining me now to talk about the technical stuff that's going on is sports broadcaster and journalist aidan magee aden . you know, the techie magee aden. you know, the techie stuff going with the game. stuff going on with the game. i'm just getting excited about it, we're playing it, obviously. so we're playing spain . it's it, obviously. so we're playing spain. it's in it, obviously. so we're playing spain . it's in a it, obviously. so we're playing spain. it's in a packed it, obviously. so we're playing spain . it's in a packed stadium spain. it's in a packed stadium in australia . what are our in australia. what are our chances realistically? >> i think england go into it as favourites. don't forget , we favourites. don't forget, we arrived in australia a month ago as the european champions and more money has gone into the wsl , our domestic league, in the last five six years and anywhere else in the world. we've recruited a coach who has finished up in the world recruited a coach who has finis before up in the world recruited a coach who has finis before with up in the world recruited a coach who has finis before with holland,a world recruited a coach who has finis before with holland, with'ld cup before with holland, with are native and won the are native holland and won the euros so it's best euros as well. so it's best in class in near enough every position got probably our position we've got probably our best player coming back from a suspension be suspension who will be available. think she'll available. i don't think she'll start, say lauren plan start, as i say lauren plan lauren we're talking lauren james we're talking about. yeah. i i about. yeah. yeah. i i think it's to take tune it's difficult to take our tune out because she's out of the team because she's played very good. played well. she's very good. she's to she's got a brilliant goal to

open against open the scoring against australia showed australia and that just showed what made what england are made of actually. mean you actually. because i mean if you think it, you're away from think about it, you're away from home, against home, you're against a host nation. the great nation. you can see the great goal nation. you can see the great goal. goalkeeper at goal. there's a goalkeeper at fault in that second fault as well in that second half what, minutes left. half with what, 25 minutes left. i don't know. i just think most teams that situation would teams in that situation would have england have actually folded england just rattled goals and just rattled off two goals and just rattled off two goals and just job done, didn't just got the job done, didn't even need extra time, says mental well. mental fortitude there as well. and in the as and earlier in the rounds as well they they well i mean they didn't they haven't really hit their straps until knockout that's until the knockout stage. that's what do at. and what the top sides do at. and yeah, spain at have yeah, look spain at spain have scored games. scored 14 goals in six games. but they did lose to japan, 4—0 in the group stages. that in the group stages. and that wasn't rubber either. wasn't a dead rubber either. that that was quite that was a game that was quite important. i mean, yeah , important. so i mean, yeah, listen, a listen, they they carry a threat. spain don't get me wrong, but i would still have england edge. england having the edge. >> a big risk are >> how much of a big risk are spain ? because they are actually spain? because they are actually a very good side aren't they. some fantastic players. they are. goals though. are. they can see goals though. >> see goals and they are. they can see goals though. >> score see goals and they are. they can see goals though. >> score goals. goals and they are. they can see goals though. >> score goals. ioals and they are. they can see goals though. >> score goals. i think nd they are. they can see goals though. >> score goals. i think that1ey they score goals. i think that england been england look, england have been around now england are around the block now england are wizened terms and their wizened in terms and so is their coach. they'll be aware coach. i think they'll be aware of . i don't think

of that threat. i don't think it's be i mean, it's going to be easy. i mean, i went i went for 2—1 after extra time breakfast time this morning on breakfast and are and i'm sticking that are sticking mcgee often sticking that mr mcgee often comes the extra time thing comes good the extra time thing worries me i don't know every man's game they end up watching behind the sofa going no penalties. but they've had extra time tournaments and time in previous tournaments and they've come through. they had extra the extra time this time in the second again against second round. again against nigeria on nigeria and prevailed on penalties, which the men never do. i mean, we keep comparing it to game. shouldn't to the men's game. we shouldn't really different really because of two different things know, things altogether. but you know, it to have something it just seems to have something and remind of and then remind me of the england team about england rugby team about 20 years seem to just get years ago. they seem to just get the and i think the job done and i think there'll be again, it'll be the same again tomorrow. really do. >> when &m- mm- %- do. >> when say it is different >> when you say it is different from the men's game, of course it's the men's game. but you think we will get >> but do you think we will get to time women's football to a time where women's football will as seriously? will be taken as seriously? certainly by the president of the fa one, prince william , as the fa one, prince william, as the fa one, prince william, as the men's game? >> well, the market will decide that. so what has to happen is that. so what has to happen is that people need to turn up to sell games and pay to get into the ground. i mean, you can

incentivise people and it's great make make the game seem great to make make the game seem as if it's commercially operating and commercially, commercially operating and commercially, commercialljit's not that often the moment it's not that often surviving of the surviving on the back of the men's team. so for example, the chelsea winning the chelsea chelsea winning the league regularly but league in the wsl regularly, but they quite , they are still funded quite, quite heavily the, by the quite heavily by the, by the men's team. so you've got to get people going now we saw if people going in. now we saw if you people are you see the people who are organising game, know , organising the game, you know, kind of marketing the game right now, they'll say attendances in the euros the off the back of the euros are but you're talking are up 50. but you're talking there a difference between 2000 and 3000. i mean, those those those attendances are probably league two level in this country. to improve league two level in this cou facilities to improve league two level in this cou facilities need to improve league two level in this cou facilities need to to improve league two level in this cou facilities need to improve ove the facilities need to improve as well. it's no good just saying, they're to saying, okay, they're going to play saying, okay, they're going to play game play in the men's game in a men's stadium you've got men's stadium rather. you've got to fill that because to be able to fill that because it's to put you it's expensive to put it on. you can once a season can maybe do it once a season for game and you can maybe for a big game and you can maybe get some numbers in there. but for a big game and you can maybe gehas me numbers in there. but for a big game and you can maybe gehas me happen rs in there. but for a big game and you can maybe gehas mehappen rs iathere. but for a big game and you can maybe gehas me happen rs i athere. to |t it has to happen on a week to week basis. are at week basis. people are paying at the gate spending money, spending, money on spending, spending money on shirts, food, shirts, spending money on food, etcetera. again i >> -- >> no, i was i was going to say , you don't necessarily have to

fill stadiums for the fill out the stadiums for the club for international club games for the international sides to be well watched. yes. from point of view of bringing from a point of view of bringing in very in the money, it's very important. but if you look at men's cricket, for example , men's cricket, for example, county games. men's cricket, for example, couyeah, games. men's cricket, for example, couyeah, that's games. men's cricket, for example, couyeah, that's gempty. >> yeah, that's almost empty. that's point . some some >> yeah, that's almost empty. that's there point . some some >> yeah, that's almost empty. that's there isoint . some some >> yeah, that's almost empty. that's there is ant . some some >> yeah, that's almost empty. that's there is a history1e some >> yeah, that's almost empty. that's there is a history of some sports. there is a history of the international game being stronger the club but stronger than the club game, but football's different football. for international game to be for the international game to be strong, game has be strong, the club game has to be strong, the club game has to be strong as well. because you see in men's the club's in the men's game, the club's game well, almost game club game, well, almost it almost the almost envelops the international game in some way. but there's be but if there's going to be an equilibrium the two, equilibrium between the two, then has to thrive. and so then one has to thrive. and so for other thrive. i for the other to thrive. and i think in the think the club game at in the club game the women's game club game for the women's game has strong we can has to be strong before we can consider else. okay. consider anything else. okay. >> when comes to talking, the >> when it comes to talking, the men doing well. women >> when it comes to talking, the m> when it comes to talking, the m

commentator with you. >> it yeah . >> it yeah. >> it yeah. >> don't encourage a political commentator. >> don't encourage a political commentator . matthew stadlen, commentator. matthew stadlen, thank you very much for joining me, both of you . so, lizzie, me, both of you. so, lizzie, you're excited . you are into you're excited. you are into your football. you're a chelsea fan, but we won't hold that against you. >> i've been in football nearly all of my life. can you believe i love football and i can't tell you how excited i am for tomorrow. >> i have my lucky pants washed and ready and we are. >> yes, two. »- >> yes, two. >> and we are going to do it like the men's haven't. not well, not since 1966. >> and that was actually before i was born. can you believe ? i was born. can you believe? >> well, i was sadly , i'm going >> well, i was sadly, i'm going to have to ask this question. i'm sorry. if you're eating your lunch or anything , what are your lunch or anything, what are your lucky pants like, lizzie? >> they're the prettiest >> oh, they're not the prettiest , still are the , because i still these are the same used wear i same ones i used to wear when i was jason. they . was with jason. and they. >> yeah. and >> he always scored. yeah. and he from the halfway line he scored from the halfway line when wore those last. he scored from the halfway line wh well done you are you do know your stuff though.

>> so you're to have >> so now you're going to have another story in hands. >> so now you're going to have anobut story in hands. >> so now you're going to have anobut i;tory in hands. >> so now you're going to have anobut i have n hands. >> so now you're going to have anobut i have to hands. >> so now you're going to have anobut i have to say,hands. >> so now you're going to have ano but i have to say, let's;. >> so now you're going to have ano but i have to say, let's not >> but i have to say, let's not forget if the lionesses are going to bring in 185 million boosts to the uk economy , and boosts to the uk economy, and for me, i really do think our prime minister should be in australia, as should prince william. >> i'm very disappointed that they're not there and don't say it's about climate change. i'm sure you're going to bring that into it, matthew. >> but i really do think they should. is, know, the >> this is, you know, the football this the pinnacle football is this the pinnacle of their world their career being in the world cup, history. cup, first time in history. >> think they both have a >> and i think they both have a duty there . duty to be there. >> matthew, i'm going to i'm not going you about your going to ask you about your lucky but sure you lucky pants, but i'm sure you will wearing though will be wearing them, though obviously, lizzie's got a very good mean , prince good point now. i mean, prince william head of the fa william is the head of the fa and rishi sunak then. i don't i don't even know who he sent. actually, it's not that important. a james cleverly is there? >> james the foreign. >> james the foreign. >> yeah. who likes the likes of jolly doesn't he . so but they jolly doesn't he. so but they should be there. this game is important. it is important for football. it's important for women's sports . and they don't

women's sports. and they don't appear to be taking it seriously. >> so i'd say it's one thing to show leadership on climate change, and i absolutely endorse that, but only if all of us can honestly believe that they would not have been there if england had won the men's final and i suspect they would have been there, in which case they absolutely should be there . absolutely should be there. >> could i just say on a happier note, has been note, i think this has been a really breakthrough. some of engush really breakthrough. some of english women's english sport for women's engush english sport for women's english sport. i'm an embarrassingly late convert. i absolutely sport. i go all absolutely love sport. i go all the i now know the the time, but i now know the names of some of the england cricket players. know cricket players. i know the names some the england names of some of the england football players. >> we have the ashes, we've got the 100 going on. >> we had the netball, we've got the it's the football and i think it's worth celebrating. i think. >> is the women girl power? >> is the women girl power? >> i'm getting sick of >> yes. and i'm getting sick of the i've heard a lot of commentary late and was commentary of late and i was driving yesterday listening driving home yesterday listening in the old dinosaurs in and some of the old dinosaurs of that giving of football that aren't giving enough to the women and enough credit to the women and i find it quite upsetting and i'm not going to mention any names, but i will. >> harry redknapp was on and

just on. i'm sorry, i'm going to say it. >> and talking about the women's manager, serena , who has done manager, serena, who has done the most incredible job and why shouldn't she paid the same shouldn't she be paid the same amount as gareth southgate is ? amount as gareth southgate is? thatis amount as gareth southgate is? that is a huge difference. and why couldn't mean, she's why couldn't she? i mean, she's done more than gareth has ever done. done more than gareth has ever dori'm sorry to southgate had >> i'm sorry to southgate had won men's euros and i was at won the men's euros and i was at that final. >> was a chaotic match. >> it was a chaotic match. remember, breaking >> it was a chaotic match. reroh,iber, breaking >> it was a chaotic match. reroh, absolutely breaking >> it was a chaotic match. reroh, absolutely . breaking >> it was a chaotic match. reroh, absolutely . it's breaking in. oh, absolutely. it's actually unpleasant actually a really unpleasant experience ways. actually a really unpleasant expbutnce ways. actually a really unpleasant expbutnce stick ways. actually a really unpleasant expbutnce stick a ways. actually a really unpleasant expbutnce stick a flare. actually a really unpleasant expbutnce stick a flare up the bottom? >> i don't know. but i witnessed some of the breaking in my some of the breaking in with my now governing , if we some of the breaking in with my now one, governing , if we some of the breaking in with my now one, that governing , if we some of the breaking in with my now one, that gareth ning , if we some of the breaking in with my now one, that gareth southgatee had one, that gareth southgate would gareth would now be sir gareth southgate. he wouldn't southgate. i think he wouldn't have win a world so have had to win a world cup. so i think serena, whether or not she wins cup because she wins this world cup because she's euros she's already won the euros should serena. she should be dame serena. she should be dame serena. she should indeed . should indeed. >> why there enough >> but why isn't there enough praise even going praise and even just going along the the aren't out, the shops, the flags aren't out, you know, bunting like it you know, the bunting like it would was for the would be if it was for the men's. many of the men's. and many of the ex—players and managers of england aren't giving enough credit to this amazing woman . i credit to this amazing woman. i really do feel quite angry about

it. so if you see sometimes this has been turned into a culture war, isn't it? >> you know, some men mocking women's football , even some women's football, even some women's football, even some women mocking english football . women mocking english football. it is difficult to watch it is very difficult to watch that game on friday or thursday. whenever it was , i sat down with whenever it was, i sat down with family to watch it and not be seriously impressed by the skill levels. >> that third goal. i'm stunning . russell. >> what what we saw a couple of tournaments or recent tournaments or recent tournaments was was one sided matches. we're not really seeing that this time. a couple of fours you're going fours and fires but you're going to any level of to get that in any level of sport also matches sport and also tight matches as well, which shows that the defending has gone up. >> also penalties. >> but also penalties. >> but also penalties. >> penalties with nigeria. >> f- f— >> when did we you know, whenever england's men, >> when did we you know, when> when did we you know, when> when did we you know, when> when did we you know, when> my favourite stat from that penalty shootout was chloe kelly's penalty because the match ball have got a tech , a match ball have got a tech, a little bit of tech in it that measures the and measures the speed and everything and that hit the net at 69 miles an hour. yeah and that beats the boys fastest strike from last season, which

is the west ham player by the way, which was 66.6. just saying i >> -- >> well i remember back in about 20 years ago, it was set at about 81 miles an hour. so i don't know if the ball's lighter or whether there's any other variables that could affect the pace the ball. but yeah, pace of the ball. but yeah, that's surprise to me. >> also, the test, by the way, can i just say it's one of the test women's test to see whether women's football progressing football is really progressing is whether feel it your football is really progressing is wright? feel it your football is really progressing is wright? so feel it your football is really progressing is wright? so when it your football is really progressing is wright? so when australia gut right? so when australia equalised , felt my tummy i >> -- >> yes, me too. >> and i've never felt so excited about a football match for a very, very, very long time . and i think we can see that everyone i talked to and it's very much more a family game. i feel for the women's. you see a lot of families going. and i think if the girls do it, which i they're going to do i know they're going to do it, we're brands we're to going see brands sponsor . it's going to sponsor deals. it's going to take another level . and take it to another level. and football for women. wanted to football for women. i wanted to play football for women. i wanted to play school. i know play football at school. i know that's now that's a few years ago, but now this give such this is going to give such opportunities wanting opportunities for girls wanting to football . to get into football. >> very >> i think it's very inspirational for youngsters. got at the time, people

got quickly at the time, people very quickly when i was growing up. >> i'm 43 when i was growing up. girls have, you know, my contemporaries, girls, they weren't really thinking about playing rugby, cricket playing football, rugby, cricket for netball for england. it was netball and other if lucky other stuff. now if i'm lucky enough to enough one day to have a daughter, they thinking daughter, they might be thinking that the other is that that and the other thing is that england women can out england women can sell out wembley. 90,000. an wembley. that's 90,000. i'm an england , so if i able england member, so if i was able to get tickets for quite a while, some of the england men's games, tried ones for games, i tried to get ones for that final that for that final international tournament. for the winners of the euros. and win couldn't get win is something i couldn't get the . the ticket. >> member. >> it was a member. >> it was a member. >> unfortunately , it's full >> unfortunately, it's full time. full time . so time. we've got full time. so i did that right. still to come , did that right. still to come, this difficult this week's difficult conversation . prepare to conversation. prepare to be inspired . it's conversation. prepare to be inspired. it's a conversation. prepare to be inspired . it's a wonderful inspired. it's a wonderful story. joined by six year old woody, blight and his family. woody, a blight and his family. for three years, woody has been battling cancer. and we're doing a out this afternoon to a call out this afternoon to support woody and help raise awareness. gorgeous awareness. it's a gorgeous little first, here's little boy. but first, here's that weather for you , that warm that weather for you, that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on .

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caroline johnson says it's completely unacceptable . and i completely unacceptable. and i would personally use stronger language . but we are on tv that language. but we are on tv that management did not immediately act on the suspicious suspicions of the expert health care professionals . three babies of the expert health care professionals. three babies died after . the doctors warned the after. the doctors warned the nhs trust that they had suspicions about lucy. that's three babies that should be here now, basically. so for the great british debate, i'm asking , does british debate, i'm asking, does the nhs have lessons to learn from the lucy letby murders ? now from the lucy letby murders? now joining me now is nhs paediatric paediatric nurse olivia prince. will criminal defence lawyer and broadcaster joseph cotterill munson and retired officer and director of the law order enforcement, norman brennan. thank you all so much for joining me today. i'm actually going to start with you, olivia. if i may. you are a paediatric

nurse . i just want to ask what nurse. i just want to ask what effect has this story had on you personally and your profession ? personally and your profession? >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> so i have been following the case of lucy since the beginning, and it has been something that has really traumatised me and really left me with a lot of question as well as a lot of my colleague, which we have been discussing this case with and personally, she just hear how management she just hear how the management dismiss the staff just makes me kind of doubt how safe and secure i am in my own workspace and work environment. >> and the fact that they actually raised their concern, the fact that, you know, i as a staff could raise my concern and i could be dismissed actually leaves me wondering if really i am valued in my place of work or if my opinions count if my opinions even count because i can't even imagine the staff having to come work staff having to come to work knowing very well that they don't feel comfortable with another colleague or they might have and then then being have doubts. and then then being dismissed this way. i just dismissed in this way. i just think appalling

think it's really appalling and it's unacceptable . and do it's unacceptable. and i do think really a shame that, think it's really a shame that, you this baby had to die you know, this baby had to die and their family had to go through trauma. really through such trauma. i really do think much learn think there's so much to learn from the case of lucy. honestly, this it's really shocking for this is it's really shocking for the nurses and all of us that have had to witness and listen the nurses and all of us that hawhat d to witness and listen the nurses and all of us that hawhat d to goneess and listen the nurses and all of us that hawhat d to gone downd listen the nurses and all of us that hawhat d to gone down with en the nurses and all of us that hawhat d to gone down with the to what has gone down with the lucy trial. joseph coming to you next. >> i mean, you are a legal expert. so the poor families involved in this case will be asking questions probably for the rest of their lives. now, what could they do about the fact that the nhs trust involved in this case didn't appear to act, even though for senior registrars and consultants warned them of their suspicions ? >> well, 7_ >> well, i'm ? >> well, i'm glad that we're starting with that particular aspect of this, because there was chance after chance after chance to stop the murders by the trust. >> the hospital manager and the

chief nurse, head of nursing, alison kelly, ian harvey, the medical director , is the was the medical director, is the was the was another a crucial the crucial barrier to common sense in this again and again rejecting what doctors were begging for expert paediatricians. >> what can the parents do in the face of circum instances where senior expert consultants top of their game with knowledge of these matters were refused again and again , and basically again and again, and basically by nhs managers, business people all countermanded ? well, there's all countermanded? well, there's going to be some type of inquiry. >> we hear , but it won't be a >> we hear, but it won't be a statutory inquiry which will have the power to request information that to demand information, the power to compel witnesses to attend. and of course the power to get probity into this. >> as to the culture within

managers going and their answer ability to ministers, which is where this culture of fear starts instead , we're looking at starts instead, we're looking at a kind of mediation in a fairly toothless situation in which the families are going to be expected to just regard this as simply the matter of admittedly a serial killer. and a rogue hospital situation . hospital situation. >> we're hearing from experts that this is this type of ignonng that this is this type of ignoring of medical experts with regard who have charge of the care of their patients with regard to matters of care of patients are regularly being overridden by nhs target driven managers who don't represent the true spirit in those particular circumstances because of what we have systemically in those structures . structures. >> they don't those people don't represent the true interests of patients , and doctors are not patients, and doctors are not being listened to . being listened to.

>> joseph thank you. norman. let's bring you into this one. i was shocked by some of the rhetoric that the judge and the chief police officers used in this case saying that letby was indeed a monster. i don't remember really often hearing police officers use that language about a case. so obviously it is incredibly shocking for everyone involved . shocking for everyone involved. what do you make of the behaviour that is involved in this case and the fact that, well, i mean the papers are saying today that the nhs has blood on its hands. saying today that the nhs has blood on its hands . what would blood on its hands. what would you say to that ? you say to that? >> well, it's two words, to be quite honest here, that we kick off with and its image and reputation on the image and reputation on the image and reputation was paramount to the chief executive of chester hospital . hosphal >> they didn't want anything to undermine their sort of position within the nhs. they didn't want anything negative getting out. >> and as a result of that, it would be fair to say that it

appears that they do or some people have blood on their hands. what amazes me is this dawn is that there is a number and an organisation called crime stoppers, and if you believe that someone is allegedly have committed an offence or is responsible for horrendous crime and you believe that your managers or line managers or the people in charge of your organisation are not taking it serious , you then make that serious, you then make that phone call . it's anonymous, phone call. it's anonymous, you're anonymous . but what it you're anonymous. but what it does, it flags up to the police that someone where there is an issue and the police will have to look, look into it. but it's all about image and reputation. well, let's look at the image and reputation of all of those men and women that were responsible for leadership within chester hospital . all within chester hospital. all that took that turned a blind eye. they even had the doctors and some of the staff apologising to her. i've got to

say to you, let's look at the image and reputation of those responsible and chester hospital today. yeah. thank you very much. >> strong words indeed . you >> strong words indeed. you know, norman has said blood on their hands , right? olivia their hands, right? olivia prince . well, joseph cottrell prince. well, joseph cottrell munson and norman brennan, thank you so much forjoining me to discuss this incredibly hard story , isn't it? you are with story, isn't it? you are with dawn neesom on gb news on your tv and on digital radio. after the break, we'll continue the great british debate. i'm asking, does the nhs have lessons to learn from the letby murders? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel broadcaster and columnist lizzie candy and political matthew political commentator matthew stadlen. but first, it's the latest headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> donna, thank you . the latest >> donna, thank you. the latest from the newsroom. the lawyers representing the families of two of lucy libby's victims have called the independent inquiry inadequate. the government

ordered a non—statutory investigation after the formers nurse nurses conviction yesterday. it will look at the circumstances surrounding the deaths and incidents, including how concerns raised by clinicians were dealt with in a statement, the lawyers said the inquiry doesn't have the power to compel witnesses to provide evidence or produce documents and therefore lacks real teeth. letby was found guilty of the murder of seven babies and the attempted murder of six others. she'll be sentenced on monday . she'll be sentenced on monday. pakistani police are seeking to arrest the father of saira sharif in connection to her murder. the ten year old's body was found at her home in woking last thursday morning after police received a phone call from irfan sharif from pakistan . police believe he travelled to islamabad with sarah's stepmother, uncle and five children a day before sarah's body was discovered . detectives body was discovered. detectives say she'd suffered extensive injuries over a sustained period of time . criminal gangs have

of time. criminal gangs have been condemned by maritime experts for pushing small boats out into the english channel dunng out into the english channel during storm betty. coastguard and border force vessels have been called to deal with reports of migrant boats in the seas in treacherous conditions at least three were intercepted in a uk waters this morning. news understands around 100 people were on board. it comes just a week after six migrants drowned attempting the crossing . the attempting the crossing. the manager of the lionesses says her team is buoyed by the level of support ahead of tomorrow's world cup final . england take on world cup final. england take on spain playing to win the trophy for the very first time. lauren james, who served a two match suspension following her red card against nigeria, could start tomorrow . you can get more start tomorrow. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gb news. now it's back to dawn . now it's back to dawn. >> thank you. tatiana, you're with dawn neesom on gb news on

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on digital radio show. now coming up, back to our great british debate this hour. i am asking, does the nhs have lessons to learn from the lucy letby murder ? nurse letby i'm letby murder? nurse letby i'm not using her first name. it sounds makes that sound too human. has been found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to kill six more, making her the worst child serial killer in modern history. the neonatal nurse started attacking highly vulnerable babies in her care in 2015, but she was only arrested in 2018. consult agents had been warning a countess of chester hospital bosses for months about letby connection to the unusual deaths and collapses of premature babies . but and collapses of premature babies. but doctors and collapses of premature babies . but doctors who flagged babies. but doctors who flagged concern were ordered to apologise . letby instead say no apologise. letby instead say no for the great british debate i am asking does the nhs have lessons to learn from the letby murders? now let's see what my panel make of this. it's a horrible thing to have to talk

about, but i think it's an important discussion. i'm joined by broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and political commentator matthew stadlen . commentator matthew stadlen. thank you so much for coming back on. this is an incredibly difficult thing to talk about and i'm sure we'd much rather. but there are so many questions that need answering in particular, why the nhs bosses ignored for registrars and doctors are senior doctors at this hospital about their suspicions of lucy letby? they ignored them, which meant lucy could go on and murder three more children. three more little boys lost their life in that penod boys lost their life in that period who would be going to period who would now be going to school? lizzy? i mean, it's . school? lizzy? i mean, it's. >> it's too horrific and disturbing for words and me thinking about it. it just bnngs thinking about it. it just brings tears to my eyes as it does to yours and all the viewers and listeners. >> it'sjust viewers and listeners. >> it's just too vile to think a human could do this to small, vulnerable babies. >> and as a parent, you put your

babies in the care of a hospital thinking it's the safest place . thinking it's the safest place. and for her to say trust me, i'm a nurse, makes my skin crawl. >> lessons to be learned. you know what? >> i'm sick of hearing this from the nhs. lessons to be learnt . the nhs. lessons to be learnt. >> look at the other baby killer that they had as a nurse . that they had as a nurse. >> a beverley . >> a beverley. >> a beverley. >> her name was look at harold shipman and you know the amount of people that they said, look, we've got to have an inquiry , we've got to have an inquiry, look how this happened. >> will be learnt, >> lessons will be learnt, lessons will be learnt. >> lessons will be learnt, les:wellnill be learnt. >> lessons will be learnt, les:well actuallyzarnt. >> lessons will be learnt, les:well actually they should >> lessons will be learnt, leszwlearnt ually they should >> lessons will be learnt, leszwlearnt their they should >> lessons will be learnt, leszwlearnt their lessons)uld >> lessons will be learnt, leszwlearnt their lessons and have learnt their lessons and they haven't. >> and for nhs has blood >> and for me the nhs has blood on hands because the poor on their hands because the poor parents would have their children with them. now you know, and this inquiry for me is going to take too long and like with harold shipman, you know, once they've investigated those people, you know, they've either retired and moved on or they've, you know , passed away. it's too you know, passed away. it's too long. the parents need answers. and it's so unfair. and i'm

sorry, it's not good enough. >> and for me, yes, the nhs do have blood on their hands and i feel it's incredible that consultants could go and say, look, there is something wrong . look, there is something wrong. >> and they, you know, being so woke, they didn't want to upset this letby. i won't even say a name monster because, you know, they didn't want her to be hurt and they kept her on the ward. they then even put her on to another position doing clerical stuff. but they, they why? why why? after all those complaints and concerns, didn't they do something done? >> very, very strong words. matthew and you know, the consultants were forced to apologise to lucy letby after she actually accused them of bullying her when they came when they voiced their concerns about her behaviour, what what do you make about the nhs reaction to this this story ? this this story? >> i think one of the things

that will be central to the inquiry, i imagine, is how we got from a position in which consultants were told to apologise to this person, to then later on an arrest and then a conviction for the murder of seven babies. >> i think it's actually the most upsetting story that that we've had in this country for a very long time that i can remember, really. >> and you don't need to be a parent due to understand the horror of this know that said , horror of this know that said, as a parent, as someone who was in a in a maternity ward , not a in a in a maternity ward, not a neonatal ward, but a maternity ward, only ten and a half months ago . and you see the ago. and you see the vulnerability not just of the babies , but of women going babies, but of women going through labour and the aftermath, which is an incredibly challenging experience for lots and lots of people to think that there was someone who was , instead of someone who was, instead of helping as everyone was helping

us, doing the opposite kit, it's very, very difficult to begin to come to terms with. i think the nhs clearly has massive questions that need to be asked of it . when we say the nhs, this of it. when we say the nhs, this particular hospital, but also the organisation more widely , the organisation more widely, the organisation more widely, the institution more widely , the institution more widely, because this can never be allowed to happen again. and when you have hundreds of thousands of people working , thousands of people working, your mistakes are going to be made. >> but these sorts of mistakes should never be made. >> and i think it is a really important part of our national life moving forward that whistleblowers have to be protected probably more than they are at the moment under law. so there can be no risk of a chilling effect that if someone sees something that they think is obviously wrong or even potentially wrong, they need to

be they need to be protected. >> and one of those doctors did indeed say that it had been a cover up . we're not their words. cover up. we're not their words. we have to find out what other people are thinking. this now, very strong words from our panel very strong words from our panel. show nothing panel. but this show is nothing without you and views. without you and your views. let's welcome one of our great british voices this is your opportunity to be on the show and tell us what you really think about topics we're think about the topics we're discussing unfortunately, discussing. unfortunately, not a fun one this afternoon. this houn fun one this afternoon. this hour, we are heading to bristol to speak with gp voice to speak with regular gp voice lee harris . lee, good afternoon. lee harris. lee, good afternoon. thank you so much for joining us.lee thank you so much for joining us. lee lizzy has said the nhs has blood on its hands and the doctor who complained about let this behaviour has said it was a cover up by the bosses at his hospital . what do you make of hospital. what do you make of this ? this? >> i agree with everything that the panel have said , especially the panel have said, especially what lizzie just said . what lizzie just said. >> my daughter was born around the same time around 2016 when all this was happening, but as

matthew said, quite rightly, you don't need to be a parent to empathise with this horrific situation . but yeah, i think situation. but yeah, i think they do have blood on the hands of course they do. >> from what i've read, it's been a catalogue of missed opportunities, negligence , cover opportunities, negligence, cover ups and sheer arrogance by senior management and nhs executives. and it sounds like they cared more about pr than they cared more about pr than they did for the lives of those babies and just this moment watched or just before came on, i watched the interview with one of the paediatricians who desperately tried to warn the hospital board , and i found it hospital board, and i found it difficult to stomach , probably difficult to stomach, probably like a lot of other people, utterly wrenching. utterly gut wrenching. i couldn't comprehend why the chief exec and the medical director apparently implied that it was the frontline doctors conveniently covering for their own potential failures and didn't want the police to attend because of concerns i couldn't comprehend why additional very direct warnings were ignored by other senior members of staff. i couldn't comprehend why the deaths had not been reported

appropriately, meaning the high fatal rate could not be picked up fatal rate could not be picked ”p by fatal rate could not be picked up by the wider system and that subsequently made the police police's lives difficult when they investigated so many things that i couldn't comprehend from this horrible situation . and, this horrible situation. and, you know, in my opinion , the you know, in my opinion, the chief exec, the medical director and other senior executives who now know had they listen and could have potentially stop to further murders, should be held criminally responsible. yeah and i do understand about the public inquiry, but i completely agree with the families that it's, you know, they should be forced to attend and they should also be part of a police investigation . part of a police investigation. >> absolutely. that's lee harris in bristol , >> absolutely. that's lee harris in bristol, one of our regular gp voices . in bristol, one of our regular gp voices. thank you so much for joining us afternoon , lee. joining us this afternoon, lee. even a very, very even though it's a very, very sobering subject talk about sobering subject to talk about now you're with dawn neesom on gb news on your tv and on digital radio. coming up next, it's our weekly royal round up with royal biographer angela

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radio. >> hello. here we're dawn neesom on gb news. welcome to your lovely saturday afternoon. i'm on tv and on your digital radio now . there's always something now. there's always something going on in the royal household, isn't there? and this week has been no different. what a surprise . prince william is surprise. prince william is facing criticism mainly from me, it has to be said, for not attending the women's world cup final in australia . he's just final in australia. he's just released this message to the lionesses have a look. >> lionesses want to send you a

huge good luck for tomorrow. >> we're sorry you can't be there in person. >> so proud of everything >> it was so proud of everything you've achieved and the millions you've inspired here and around the there the world. so go out there tomorrow and really enjoy yourselves. >> good luck . >> good luck. >> good luck. >> i'm joined by royal biographer angela levin to give us a rundown on that clip and everything else that's going on. angela, thank you so much for joining me. welcome that that clip has just been released by prince william, who is president of the faa . and i'm sorry, of the faa. and i'm sorry, i know we disagree on this one, but the phrase i'm sorry we can't be there with you . and can't be there with you. and it's got princess charlotte sitting with him. it's a huge football fan. sports fan . yeah. football fan. sports fan. yeah. i'm sorry. i'm angry. i should be there. >> i think. well, he can't be there really , because he would there really, because he would be going against a lot of things that said. be going against a lot of things tha is said. be going against a lot of things tha is a said. be going against a lot of things tha is a great believer in and >> is a great believer in and not actually travelling long journeys if they're for very, very quick and he's only going to be there for a very short time and i think he was up against a wall, but if he does 90, against a wall, but if he does go, he's going to be attacked by

everyone you can't try everyone who says you can't try and save the world and make things clean. >> if you're going to travel all this time on planes and come back and go there so quickly and on the other hand, if he doesn't go, he gets lots of attacks from people. >> it'd be there if it was the men playing. >> don't think actually. >> i don't think so, actually. i mean, stopped several mean, he'd stopped several matches when there was something wrong. he couldn't go to russia . he was all geared up to do that. and he a few years ago, i think about 5 or 6 years ago, and he couldn't do that because it was just after they had poisoned one of their people who was in the uk. he had to drop that at the last minute. we don't know what else he's got on. i think it's quite difficult to attack him when he actually is very hard working. huge sense of duty and has shown that he is also a very good father and that his children understand what will happen when they're older and how they go ahead and i think it is obviously a great

shame, but i don't think he's doing it for any other reason than sticking to his morals. >> i'll cut you some slack on that one. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> just okay. but the other one, the ginger one, are. and prince harry isn't it? that's his name. >> that's his name . >> that's his name. >> that's his name. >> he. there was a rumour he was actually going out to australia, which would of course, i think it just joke. which would of course, i think it people joke. which would of course, i think it people saidze. he go >> people said that he should go and would be in front of and he would be in the front of every single newspapers. page one no, wouldn't that unsurprising hasn't been. >> but is there another netflix thing coming out? please don't tell me is. tell me there is. >> there is. with invictus >> yes, there is. with invictus games, which great games, which is harry's great thing that he's done. and there's a bit of a chat. whether meghan go with him or she there's a bit of a chat. whether mygoing go with him or she there's a bit of a chat. whether mygoing with go with him or she there's a bit of a chat. whether mygoing with him with him or she there's a bit of a chat. whether mygoing with him .nith him or she there's a bit of a chat. whether mygoing with him . and him or she there's a bit of a chat. whether mygoing with him . and i m or she there's a bit of a chat. whether mygoing with him . and i have she there's a bit of a chat. whether mygoing with him . and i have toe is going with him. and i have to say , it's in germany. right. say, it's in germany. right. okay yeah. and he , he there was okay yeah. and he, he there was a sort of advert for it and he struck me very much as the old harry i knew in 2017 when i was writing his biography . and i writing his biography. and i asked him at the time , rather

asked him at the time, rather bravely, you will agree, as a journalist that he was brilliant with the soldiers who had been damaged physically or mentally, and they said he'd given them a wish to live. and i said to him, can i ask you a question , can i ask you a question, please? do you use this as a way of helping you with your own mental health issues ? i thought mental health issues? i thought he'd throw me out of yeah , his he'd throw me out of yeah, his palace, but he didn't at the time. and he waited about a minute. seemed like an hour. time. and he waited about a minute. seemed like an hour . and minute. seemed like an hour. and he said to me, no, you're absolutely right. it does help me. so i'm just wondering whether coming out whether he's actually coming out of that he's been in and of the pit that he's been in and is actually becoming more of a man himself . man himself. >> are you implying meghan's a bit . bit. >> no, he's in a very bad state, isn't he? he's in a very miserable, unhappy time for him. he's not with his. it has to be. well, he was happy before her, but he doesn't now. but meghan . but he doesn't now. but meghan. meghan is going and she's going to speak and it's going to be to the veterans. and it's about courage and resilience and i thought that was rather ironic

because she's neither are we here quiet. >> are we to read anything in mechanism? a stupid woman? is she into the fact that she hasn't been wearing her engagement ring for a while? i mean, she's quite very obviously photographed recently, not wearing it. >> yeah, well, she does all that. she does these little gimmicky things. she that gimmicky things. she does that about does this about her ring. she does this with make sure that with a patch to make sure that we still think she's a that she's still a victim. you know, she's still a victim. you know, she wants to be a victim, but she wants to be a victim, but she wants to very successful she wants to be very successful , will have loads of money until people who've worked for queen and country, which she certainly hasn't done how to behave. i find it absolutely extraordinary i >> -- >> and so basically , we it would >> and so basically, we it would have been fun to see him here. but finally, one quick question with you. yes. the hair there's a picture recently with him suddenly head of hair. suddenly dove head of hair. what's that about? >> well, it's just that he looks more actually, more attractive. but actually, we all know lost his hair. we all know he's lost his hair. and was very rude about and he was very rude about william, his hair

william, who has lost his hair before he did, because he's all done. at done. obviously they did at a certain lots certain age. and he's made lots of silly comments about him. and in spare , he made jokes in his book spare, he made jokes about . and so now he's got about it. and so now he's got it. but he can't actually have photos showing that unless it's happening at the moment. so they've darkened it and they've painted a bit on top. >> it doesn't look at all that. >> it doesn't look at all that. >> it's unfortunate. we have to move on there. okay. thank you so much for coming and joining us. right. you always dawn neesom on gb news on your tv and on digital . on digital. radio you always dawn neesom them on gb news on your tv and on digital radio. so next hour , me digital radio. so next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics, hitting the headlines right now. coming up just a moment, young woody up in just a moment, young woody bly , the cutest little boy, bly, the cutest little boy, joins me in studio for what

joins me in the studio for what is sure to be an inspiring conversation for great conversation and for the great british debate this i'm asking our public figures politicising the women's world cup. but first, let's get the latest news headunes first, let's get the latest news headlines from tatiana sanchez . headlines from tatiana sanchez. >> dawn, thank you and good afternoon. it's 5:02. this is the latest from the newsroom. lawyers representing the families of two of lucy libby's victims have called the independent inquiry inadequate. the government ordered a non—statutory investigation after the former nurses conviction yesterday. it will look at the circumstances surrounding the deaths , surrounding the deaths, including how concerns raised by clinicians were dealt with . in clinicians were dealt with. in a statement, the lawyers said the inquiry doesn't have the power to compel witnesses to provide evidence or produce documents and therefore lacks real teeth . and therefore lacks real teeth. letby was found guilty of the murder of seven babies and the attempted murder of six others. she'll be sentenced on monday .

she'll be sentenced on monday. pakistani police are seeking to arrest the father of sarah sharif in connection to her murder . the sharif in connection to her murder. the ten year old's body was found at her home in woking last thursday morning after police received a call from irfan sharif from pakistan . irfan sharif from pakistan. police believe he travelled to islamabad with sarah's stepmother, uncle and five children a day before sarah's body was discovered . detectives body was discovered. detectives say she'd suffered extensive injuries over a sustained period of time . criminal gangs have of time. criminal gangs have been condemned by maritime experts for pushing small boats out into the channel during storm betty. coastguard and border force vessels have been called to deal with reports of migrant boats in the sea in treacherous conditions . at least treacherous conditions. at least three were intercepted in uk waters this morning. gb news understands around 100 people were on board. it comes just a week after six migrants drowned attempting the crossing age. uk says hundreds of thousands of older people missed out on financial support for their

energy bills. the charity claims more than 700,000 households didn't receive help from the energy bills support scheme alternative fund. it was set up for people with non direct supply arrangements such as those living in care homes, mobile homes or on boats. but age uk says the fund had completely flopped due to a complicated application process and a lack of publicity . a and a lack of publicity. a protest over the closure of railway ticket offices will be staged outside downing street later this month . the rmt union later this month. the rmt union says it will stage a mass rally on the 31st of august, which is the last day of the consultation process . it warns the move to process. it warns the move to close up to 1000 offices will put more than 2000 jobs at risk . the planned action comes as cross country train workers staged the first of four strikes over working conditions. rmt members will also walk out over the next three saturdays and protesters are demonstrating against the ultra low emission

zone have brought traffic to a standstill in south—east . standstill in south—east. london. the action comes ten days before the ulez expansion comes into force, covering the entire city. tractors the taxi and a three wheeled car were seen spiralling around the roundabout at orpington war memorial while protesters shouted into megaphones and blew whistles . drivers will have to whistles. drivers will have to pay whistles. drivers will have to pay £12.50 daily fee from the 29th of august if their vehicles don't meet the new requirements . a state of emergency has been declared in canada's western province of british columbia, where wildfires are threatening homes. thousands of people have been evacuated from the area as fires burn in the hills and mountains above west kelowna. strong winds are fanning the flames with a fire service warning the blaze could reach the outskirts of the city by the weekend. canada is facing its worst season on record with more

than 1000 active fires burning across the country . now, the across the country. now, the prince of wales has apologised for not being able to attend the women's world cup final in person. in a video posted on social media, he and princess charlotte wished the lionesses good luck for tomorrow's game . good luck for tomorrow's game. >> lionesses. >> lionesses. >> i want to send you a huge good luck for tomorrow. we're sorry you can't be there in person, we're so proud person, but we're so proud of everything and everything you've achieved and the inspired everything you've achieved and the and inspired everything you've achieved and the and the nspired everything you've achieved and the and the world. here and around the world. >> out there tomorrow and >> so go out there tomorrow and really yourselves . good >> so go out there tomorrow and reallylionesseerselves . good >> so go out there tomorrow and reallylionesses .�*selves . good luck, lionesses. >> meanwhile , the team says it's >> meanwhile, the team says it's buoyed by the level of support ahead of the final against spain. lauren james, who served a two match suspension following her red card against nigeria, could start tomorrow. the lionesses are hoping to lift the world cup trophy for the first time, but manager sarina wiegman says they're treating it the same as any other game . same as any other game. >> i never take anything for granted , but also now playing granted, but also now playing another finals. yeah, what i said is really special, but we

just preparing for a game and yes it is a final, but we don't do anything different than we do normally . normally. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to dawn . for thank you, back to dawn. for thank you, tatiana , this is gb news. tatiana, this is gb news. >> i'm dawn neesom and for the next hour , me and my panel will next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics, hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion, though. mine, theirs , but most importantly, theirs, but most importantly, yours. important yours. you're the important ones. we'll be debating, discussing and at times disagreeing, joining me today is lizzie cundy and matthew stadlen. and still to come, prepare to be inspired by my difficult conversation today . it difficult conversation today. it is. it's a real tearjerker, but it's also given all the grim news around actually incredibly positive, inspiring story . six

positive, inspiring story. six year old woody bly is on a mission to make as many lasting memories as possible after being diagnosed with a neuroblastoma blastoma , a rare cancer that blastoma, a rare cancer that developed in nerve tissue when it was just three years old. woody is now six. his mum and his mum paige village, who have been supporting the family, will been supporting the family, will be joining me on the couch very soon. and as world cup excitement reaches fever pitch. so what we did there for the great debate this hour, so what we did there for the gam: debate this hour, so what we did there for the gam asking debate this hour, so what we did there for the gam asking our)ate this hour, so what we did there for the gam asking our publicis hour, so what we did there for the gam asking our public figures, i am asking our public figures, pubuc i am asking our public figures, public dismissing the women's world cup . and we know which world cup. and we know which politicians we're talking about , of public , don't we? promises of public holidays, embarrassing pictures, shoddy displays . look at that. i shoddy displays. look at that. i mean, pathetic those mean, how pathetic are those flags seriously . and flags? i mean, seriously. and the whole saga of who should be representing the country actually in australia as always, you can email me gbv at gb news.com or tweet us at . gb news.com or tweet us at. gb news.com or tweet us at. gb news. and now it's time for this

week's difficult conversation . week's difficult conversation. three years ago, paige bligh received the news, which no parent ever wants to hear. her little boy, woody, then aged three, was diagnosed with neuroblastoma. a very rare cancer that develops in the nerve tissue. it understandably rocked their family and for the past three years, young woody has bravely been having treatment and battling the illness in addition to the emotional strain . it's also been emotional strain. it's also been obviously a huge financial burden for the family having to travel for various treatments and readjust their life . a few and readjust their life. a few weeks ago, paige was told by woody's doctors that there were really no further treatments for woody . but that won't stop woody. but that won't stop woody's family from fighting . woody's family from fighting. they are looking at alternative treatments and trials that woody can hopefully take part in. i'm absolutely thrilled and delighted and honoured, i must say, because it's so cute to say young woody, his mum and entrepreneur matt lilly's fit , entrepreneur matt lilly's fit, joins me now . welcome to you

joins me now. welcome to you all. thank you so much for joining me this afternoon. really appreciate it. and i'm bringing young woody in to see us. woody, in the tv show, you're enjoying it? yeah, it's good, isn't it ? you're enjoying it? yeah, it's good, isn't it? right. i'm going to start with you. just tell us a little bit of the background about why what has happened to woody? i mean , he was only three woody? i mean, he was only three when he was diagnosed . when he was diagnosed. >> yeah, he was three. and obviously we just went to the doctors thinking, you know, it was , you know, a normal three was, you know, a normal three year old little thing , growing year old little thing, growing pains. but, you know, this sort of like kept on going for like four months and i eventually took him to the doctors again and they said that it was june of arthritis . of arthritis. >> and i was like, okay, this can't go on for four months. >> like being like this. >> sort of like being like this. so we took him back and then they said, look, take him to a&e . so we did. we took him to anna and they kept him in overnight at barnstable hospital, rushed

him down for scans and stuff, and they picked up that he had lymph nodes up all over his body and that they said it was my birthday. actually, we got transferred up to bristol and on the 9th of october 2020, we got told that he had stage four and blastoma and that is obviously the worst news any parent and you've got two other children as well haven't you. >> yeah yeah i can possibly heanl >> yeah yeah i can possibly hear. i mean what effect does it had on your family as a family with woody siblings and obviously, you know , everything obviously, you know, everything must have been turned on its head. >> it was obviously like we were full working parents then full working parents and then within a week, like, we had to quit because it was just like, we can't be at like three different hospitals. then you know, at one time. >> so it was me at home looking after the other two. >> and in the meantime i took woody and jack up to hospital and then i'd come back and stay

and then i'd come back and stay and would be at least like and it would be at least like two, three weeks at a time. there would be a way. >> went for a lot >> and then you went for a lot of chemo, didn't you? and radiotherapy, immunotherapy . radiotherapy, immunotherapy. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> oh, it's a brave little boy. there's a lot of treatment to go through when you're so little is. yeah >> and he's took it like a warrior. >> he's , you know, he's , he's >> he's, you know, he's, he's just amazing. oh it's wonderful to have you here, woody . to have you here, woody. >> i hope you're enjoying your day, matt. so tell me how you became involved in in woody's story. >> yeah, sure . well, our sports >> yeah, sure. well, our sports car. you see, that belongs to me. >> so one of his dreams and one of his wishes was to drive in a lamborghini and a friend of your family page contacted me. >> persistent and. >> they're very persistent and. >> they're very persistent and. >> and asked. they could if i could take him out and i realised the urgency of it . so realised the urgency of it. so we made that happen within like two days. i think. yeah. and then once i met the little chap, we had good laugh, didn't we? woody a drive and woody went for a long drive and we in a ferrari two and we went out in a ferrari two and you've super power you've got your super power thing realised that thing going on. i realised that there is and i've come across

children before. >> where. oh, look at that look woody with that woody, you are now with that car. that's a lovely car. >> yeah . he loves it. and i just >> yeah. he loves it. and i just didn't expect him to be so strong and so active. and you could talk to him. he's incredible. and when i heard about the devastating news, it just didn't make any sense to me . so being entrepreneur, i figured out the box. so what can be done? that's not on the nhs? and they've done an incredible job get that job and page wants to get that across i to try and across. what can i do to try and use my profile to get out there, to get in front of consultants , to get in front of consultants, doctors, medicines on the nhs? and let's give this a big shot. and let's give this a big shot. and i'm just happy that gb news has had us on because unless you're talking about britney spears divorce at the moment, it's very difficult get on it's very difficult to get on anything. took such an anything. and they took such an interest nana's been incredible. >> we're asensea incredible. >> we're a sense a best to >> so we're in a sense a best to all. by the way, she's apologised. be here. apologised. she can't be here. and i apologise. me and i apologise. you got me instead. but yeah, so, so, so that's how i came involved to try and lead this campaign to get help. >> and i'm willing to fund all

the treatment on and so the treatment and so on and so forth. there be doctor forth. but there must be doctor out somewhere out there in london or somewhere who's special. well, we know there we've seen there is, don't we? we've seen children from this. >> so what, what, what what have you discovered is available that you'd to move forward to you'd like to move forward to doing just some sort of treatment really to hopefully you know, to help him. >> there's children with his condition. >> they've had his condition same age who are still doing a while alive now, 17, 25. they've had chemo and treatments available to them that aren't licenced in this country. under normal nhs rules. >> right. so that would involve travelling abroad, hopefully so . i mean, obviously you know, is sort of like looking at the cars got a few bob, but you are fundraising. how are you fundraising. how are you fundraising and how can people watching this help ? watching this help? >> i've got a go fund me page up obviously to help woody's wishes as well. >> but like i said, that would go towards treatment if go towards the treatment if there available there is any available forwarding and but and it's quite content when you ask what

else would you like to do? >> i was going to say we're making memories for woody here, aren't we? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> he's on tv. he's >> no, he's on tv. he's an assistant. done assistant. you could have done this virtually, wanted this virtually, but you wanted to you? today? to come in, didn't you? today? >> you? to come in, didn't you? today? >> and you? to come in, didn't you? today? >> and he you? to come in, didn't you? today? >> and he just you? to come in, didn't you? today? >> and he just wants you? to come in, didn't you? today? >> and he just wants to ou?play >> and he just wants to go play on and make on the beach and make sandcastles brother and sandcastles with his brother and sister, don't you? that's really what to do. so it's what you want to do. so it's all about someone who about trying to find someone who can and give can step in now and give us treatment is there treatment and is there a treatment and is there a treatment discovered treatment and is there a treatmight discovered treatment and is there a treatmight help discovered treatment and is there a treatmight help is discovered treatment and is there a treatmight help is djust'ered treatment and is there a treatmight help is djust wed that might help or is it just we are asking to get are still asking people to get in they know there is in touch if they know there is one, what's the situation, i suppose. >> really asking >> yeah, just really asking to see is any out there see if there is any out there that available for woody that are available for woody because you know, nhs have because you know, the nhs have done their, their bit and i'm very thankful them. very thankful for them. >> but i know that, you know, he's still got a big fight behind him. yeah >> and yeah, it's kind of hard to let him up when you see to let him give up when you see him looking. >> akua >> he's nana akua >> he's nana akua >> superpower thing. superpowers >> superpower thing. superpowers >> yayi >> yayi >> go woody superman . >> go woody superman. >> go woody superman. >> man, that is brilliant. doesn't add up. so, so, so what? i mean, there was one quote from you, page that actually almost broke my heart. i mean,

obviously , what you've been obviously, what you've been through, what is he you know, you with him you would swap places with him in in the of an eye. in in the blink of an eye. >> yeah. >> yeah. and >> yeah. and it's >> yeah. and it's obviously incredibly difficult for you. so i think that the details of the fundraising . oh, i'm sorry. you fundraising. oh, i'm sorry. you don't. you can make me cry now. the details of the fundraising page are on the gb news website. so please, if you have any information that can help little woody , it's sitting here in a tv woody, it's sitting here in a tv studio. i was being as good as gold. i mean, not many youngsters would well youngsters would be so well behaved. would behaved. i don't think i would have was your age. have been when i was your age. woody, i've been running around. so other members so what and what other members have woody ? have you been making for woody? >> loads release. >> loads release. >> but you've been a >> but you've been on a helicopter why you helicopter. why haven't you been up on a helicopter? >> what else have you done? can you ? what else have you you tell? what else have you been doing? oh i went in my, um i >>i -- >> i went in um >> i went in my lamborghini and i'm going on a flight. >> i'm sorry. you let my wife more than me, don't you? you

like the ladies, don't you ? just like the ladies, don't you? just hoping my wife would be here today. yeah. oh so it's flirting already? >> yeah . yeah. so? so what you >> yeah. yeah. so? so what you just finally. you know, to anyone watching today, what would you like to say to them? watching and listening. obviously we are on radio, so what would you to to them? >> just please, if there is anything out there for a neuroblastoma, know that neuroblastoma, you know that it's has really just so you it's it has really just so you know, it's come back a bit more if there is anything just i would like to know if there is no very inspirational inspirational parents because they won't give up. >> they won't take no for an answer . and >> they won't take no for an answer. and you can see in himself he wants to fight on, don't you, woody? yeah. he wants to fight on. so he's willing to take take a chance and. and are you page you this one? yeah some people to step forward and there must be somewhere out there in this world. yeah. who've got the answer drugs or answer or try drugs or can extend yeah and that's extend things. yeah and that's what we're trying to appeal for. >> yeah. and we won't give up will we.

>> god give up. >> god give up. >> god give up. >> go . absolutely. team woody >> go. absolutely. team woody all the way here. if you do have any information how you can help woody and page in any way, please do get in touch by the using methods. and for more information about how you can help financially with woody's appeal, help financially with woody's appeal , go to help financially with woody's appeal, go to our website now. woody page and thank you so much for joining us. and wish you all forjoining us. and wish you all the very best. thank you. so it's often best boots and sandcastles now, is it is that the next on agenda? the next one on the agenda? >> what you want do next? >> do you know ? >> do you know? >> do you know? >> no, no. you don't have a rest now, don't you? >> at the hotel? >> at the hotel? >> yeah. it's quite tiring being i >> -- >> yeah. >> yeah. >> negative star. well as i said, thank you so much for coming and really appreciate. and hopefully someone will be able to help. thank you much, able to help. thank you so much, woody good superman , woody and good luck, superman, because i haven't even been in a lamborghini yet, by the way . lamborghini yet, by the way. that's right. you know. >> yeah , right. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> so thank you so much. once again, you're with dawn neesom on gb news on your tv and on

digital radio. we move on. world cup fever for the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking our public figures, political rising, the women's world cup. but first, let's have a look what that weather's doing for you. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast over the next 24 hours or so, we will see further showers largely focussed towards the northwest. the winds are easing as storm betty generally eases and moves away from the uk, allowing high pressure to build in from the south. so the best of the sunshine over the next few days will towards the southeast of will be towards the southeast of the uk into this evening time. still breezy across parts still fairly breezy across parts of northern ireland, northwest scotland with frequent showers here , clear spells here overnight, clear spells developing across parts of the midlands, eastern england and despite this, it will still be a warm night to come. still breezy around western coast

around some western coast temperatures generally 15 or 16 celsius in towns and cities , celsius in towns and cities, evenin celsius in towns and cities, even in the countryside, holding up in double figures. so sunday morning , a bright start. there morning, a bright start. there will a scattering showers will be a scattering of showers from across western from the word go across western parts uk we move parts of the uk as we move through the morning. the best of the across parts the the sunshine across parts of the east into east anglia, east midlands into east anglia, southeast england into the afternoon. we will see. we will see scattered heavy showers see some scattered heavy showers developing, but lots of places will stay dry. still breezy across northwest . across the far northwest. temperatures high teens to low 20s, around 25 26, perhaps 20s, around 25 or 26, perhaps towards the southeast of england into monday . the towards the southeast of england into monday. the similar start to the weekend really , we'll see to the weekend really, we'll see showers across the west. best of the sunshine across central and southeastern parts and through the day, temperatures will lift into the low 20s. it stays fine and dry. tuesday and wednesday for many of us, that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on

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great british debate. can i please have a drum roll for this or something? rather? i'm asking our public figures politicise the women's world cup . tomorrow the women's world cup. tomorrow is set to be a momentous day for the lionesses as they take on spain in the world cup final . spain in the world cup final. but had the football festivity has been overshadowed by politics, you have number 10 accused of . look at that. i'm accused of. look at that. i'm sorry that is pathetic. that is the olympic most bedraggled bunting i've ever seen in my life. i mean , really. and rishi life. i mean, really. and rishi sunak hasn't even bothered he would if it was the boys , would if it was the boys, wouldn't he? basically, i'm sorry. that is ridiculous. and not to mention, this is my favourite ed davey actually trying to pretend . well, trying trying to pretend. well, trying to. i think he's trying to look like he thinks men look like in the pub when they're watching football. major fail. i mean , football. major fail. i mean, what does he think he looks like? i can tell you, but i can't. it's a we can't use that sort of language on air. right.

okay. and then there is sir keir starmer calling for a bank houday starmer calling for a bank holiday if the lionesses win , holiday if the lionesses win, you know, the bank holiday where the economy crashes, and then he can blame the tory party and say he wouldn't have it even he wouldn't have done it even though it, that he wouldn't have done it even thouof it, that he wouldn't have done it even thouof thing. it, that he wouldn't have done it even thouof thing. so it, that he wouldn't have done it even thouof thing. so for it, that he wouldn't have done it even thouof thing. so for the that he wouldn't have done it even thouof thing. so for the great sort of thing. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking figures, asking our public figures, pubuc asking our public figures, public dismissing the women's world . to discuss this, am world cup. to discuss this, i am joined by peter spencer, political commentator ben habib , former brexit party mep reem ibrahim communications officer at the iea, and michael kille , at the iea, and michael kille, ceo of night—time industries association. thank you all for joining me on this saturday afternoon . i don't even know afternoon. i don't even know where to start. i'm going to start with ed davey pitcher, because i'm sorry. he's the leader, the sdp, the lib dem leader. just in case anyone's wondering , leader. just in case anyone's wondering, i'm going to i'm going to with you , brian, going to come with you, brian, first on this one. i look, it's women's football. we see celebrating what they're doing in stead. is it being politicised ? oh, absolutely .

politicised? oh, absolutely. >> and i think that, you know, fundamentally you've got to start with the fact that start off with the fact that they're well. they're doing incredibly well. >> as a country need to >> and we as a country need to be incredibly proud of them for what they're doing . what they're doing. >> but mean, these calls for >> but i mean, these calls for a bank are absurd they bank holiday are absurd and they really hurt economy . really will hurt the economy. >> colleague, jessop >> my colleague, julian jessop at the predicted it at the is predicted that it could the economy up to £1 billion. >> and there's also the element of the fact that a bank holiday really is only a bank holiday for class people that for middle class people that work the office, those that work in the office, those that are pubs, are working bars and in pubs, they're going to be have they're still going to be have to working. they're still going to be have to so norking. they're still going to be have to so it's.ing. they're still going to be have to so it's really about who this >> so it's really about who this is actually to for . >> so it's really about who this is actually to for. be it is actually going to for. be it is actually going to for. be it is like virtue is sort of like virtue signalling is sort of like virtue sig|and1g got to remember the >> and we've got to remember the economic these bank economic cost of these bank holidays are huge. >> it's pretty much >> i think it's pretty much hopefully we've got bank hopefully we've got a bank houday up hopefully we've got a bank holiday up on monday week holiday coming up on monday week in haven't we? the in any case, haven't we? the august holiday . michael, august bank holiday. michael, i'm you next august bank holiday. michael, i'm ceo you next august bank holiday. michael, i'm ceo night—time| next year. ceo of night—time industries . this industries association. this this ed davey this picture of ed davey pretending he's in a pub, having a boys . let's let's go a come on, boys. let's let's go win football let's cheer win the football and let's cheer the you want him the girls on. would you want him in night—time industry venue in any night—time industry venue you are running ?

you are running? >> well, it's a challenge . >> well, it's a challenge. >> well, it's a challenge. >> i mean, many people probably facing the wrong way, but it definitely looks extremely staged and, you know, i mean , staged and, you know, i mean, look, we've seen this for many years now as the audiences are growing, the opportunity for media, the penetration in terms of the market worldwide, you know, politics is going to play a part, doesn't matter how much you advocate for them not to be playing a part, they will do. >> you know as jittery >> and you know as as jittery reiterate, mean, the england reiterate, i mean, the england football and women's england football and women's england football team have done phenomenally well and they're really to going benchmark it this weekend. and in trustingly enough you talk about the bank houday enough you talk about the bank holiday but we've also had an announcement asking that michael gove allow for pubs to open earlier. and as spoken this sort of moment to say , look, please, of moment to say, look, please, can you open that? you know, every local authority allow for these pubs to open earlier and almost just to sort of generate almost just to sort of generate a little bit of sort of headline press. so sadly , i agree wholeheartedly. >> the politics is encroaching

on sport, but mainly because there is such a huge platform for it. >> and i just wish they would backit >> and i just wish they would back it up in terms of supporting support at grassroots, particularly for women's football , which we know women's football, which we know is not up to compared to is not up to scratch compared to the men's etcetera . so the men's teams, etcetera. so i would advocate that they do more towards that and stop sort of with the rhetoric and playing in the background in terms of the pubuc the background in terms of the public key pieces that they're going afterjust just so that going after just just so that they grab headlines just they can grab headlines just momentarily . momentarily. >> ben, we'll come to you next. i i expect that, you know, we've already referred to the bank houday already referred to the bank holiday situation of holiday situation and sort of like pubs having licences. i suspect been men suspect if it had been men playing in the world cup all of this would have been sorted out before than minute before rather than a last minute thing . so, you it's thing. so, you know, it's amazing . women's game, amazing. women's game, fantastic. but the politicians are sort of giving it a bit of a sour taste, aren't they? >> well, i've got to start with that photograph of ed davey , that photograph of ed davey, which is the closest thing i've seen. a liberal democrat get to,

you know, toxic, masculine unity. know he's got his arm up. and i don't think a liberal democrat should do that. they should have their sleeves neatly rolled into place, you know, like i have. and they should look part. but look, look the part. but look, politics has always had a place in international sport, particularly. it's a conduit through which countries express soft power. you know , the us, soft power. you know, the us, russia, they've always taken the olympics incredibly seriously because it's their way of projecting their domestic capabilities onto the world stage. and of course , these stage. and of course, these politicians all now want to get on the bandwagon because the lionesses are doing incredibly well. why would they want to be left standing on the side having been passed by? but you're quite right, dawn, you know, it's all a minute, isn't it? a bit last minute, isn't it? >> it is very much. a bit last minute, isn't it? >> it is very much . we're >> it is very much. we're running out. we're running out of unfortunately quickly of time. unfortunately quickly to peter, a political commentator, last word on this yet the politicising it but the one political gesture they should be making, i having the prime minister there supporting

the football team in the women's football team in sydney hasn't happened . rishi sydney hasn't happened. rishi should have gone, shouldn't he? yeah >>i yeah >> i mean he claims to be a political , a sorry football political, a sorry football supporter and indeed so does keir starmer. and they're both pretty rubbish and actually saying anything about it . but saying anything about it. but the fact remains that when it comes to the politicisation of course they're going to want to own it and get some of that magic dust to spring all over them because the eyes of the world are on these guys and it'll be the first time if they pull it off tomorrow that the cup has come home in over half a century. so it's a hugely big deal century. so it's a hugely big deal. huge kudos for the uk and of course the politicians wish to be associated with it. i mean, look, go back. do you think back to when tony blair first came in and he invited loads of rock stars in cool britannia. what a brilliant idea. >> i mean, foolish, not there will all be if we do it. >> and go, girls, they will all be claiming they helped them. it

was the politicians. what won it. so peter spencer michael kill reem ibrahim and ben habib. thank you so much for joining kill reem ibrahim and ben habib. thank you so much forjoining me on that one. and if you go into the pub, try not to look at david's wrong . you're with dawn david's wrong. you're with dawn neesom gb news, on tv neesom on gb news, on your tv and digital radio. don't go and on digital radio. don't go anywhere. more coming up very soon after the news headlines with tatiana sanchez . with tatiana sanchez. >> donna, thank you and good afternoon. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the lawyers representing the families of two of lucy libby's victims have called the independent inquiry inadequate. the government ordered a non—statutory investigation after the former nurses conviction yesterday. it will look at the circumstances surrounding the deaths and incidents, including how concerned was raised by clinicians were dealt with. in a statement, the lawyers said the inquiry doesn't have the power to compel witnesses to provide evidence or produce documents

and therefore lacks real teeth. letby was found guilty of the murder of seven babies and the attempted murder of six others. she'll be sentenced on monday . she'll be sentenced on monday. pakistani police are seeking to arrest the father of saira sharif in connection to her murder. the ten year old's body was found at her home in woking last thursday morning after police received a phone call from irfan sharif from pakistan . police believe he travelled to islamabad with sara stepmother, uncle and five children a day before sarah's body was discovered. detective say she'd suffered extensive injuries over a sustained period of time . a sustained period of time. criminal gangs have been condemned by maritime experts for pushing small boats out into the channel during storm betty , the channel during storm betty, coastguard and border force vessels have been called to deal with reports of migrants boats in the sea in treacherous conditions . at least three were conditions. at least three were intercepted in uk waters this morning. gb news understands around 100 people were on board.

it comes just a week after six migrants drowned attempting the crossing and the manager of the lionesses says her team is buoyed by the level of support ahead of tomorrow's world cup final. england take on spain playing to win the trophy for the first time. lauren james, who served a two match suspension following her red card against nigeria, could start tomorrow . you can get all start tomorrow. you can get all of those stories and more by visiting our website , gb visiting our website, gb news.com. now it's back to dawn i >> welcome back. coming up on the show, we're continuing the great british debate. drumroll. i'm going to make this up myself. now and our public figures politicised the women's world cup. perish the thought . world cup. perish the thought. stay tuned

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you've forgotten. but had the football festivities been overshadowed by politics, you have number 10 accused of. i'm sorry. look that is pathetic. that's the olympics bunting i've ever seen. not putting enough effort in really ? that is effort in really? that is pathetic. due to the honestly, it's not even bunting, is it? it wants to be bunting when it grows up. not to mention ed davey. grows up. not to mention ed davey . i love that picture . i davey. i love that picture. i posing for a photo shoot . no, posing for a photo shoot. no, it's cheering on the team in his local pub doing what men do dunng local pub doing what men do during a celebration. that's a semi—final win, by the way. i have no idea what he's actually doing. and then you have circus starmer calling for the bank holiday. the lionesses holiday. if the lionesses win. remember at and also there is the licencing thing that we can now do but they didn't think about it in plenty of time like they would have done for the men's for the great men's going. so for the great british this hour, i'm british debate this hour, i'm asking our public figures politicise missing the women's world cup . now back to make what

world cup. now back to make what they make of this particular one is my wonderful panel. that is lizzie cundy and matthew stadlen . now, i'm sorry. i want you both to recreate. i'm going to i'm not taking an argument here. recreate that . ed davey, who is recreate that. ed davey, who is something to do with the lib dem, is a lib dem recreate that but yeah go lizzie. >> well, actually he was facing the wrong way from the tv. >> mistake. you're >> that's one mistake. you're supposed this. supposed to actually watch this. >> you the tv. you are >> you watch the tv. you are supposed the tv. supposed to look at the tv. >> on. does a man >> you come on. how does a man watch football? >> you come on. how does a man watwell,»tball? points out >> well, it just points out right, up this because right, i've dug up this because this really sunak the this was really sunak the prime minister last year when england's euros. england's women won the euros. and it is kind of almost identical what he's doing. there is always there's it's incredibly naff when politicians get involved. >> unfortunately , we couldn't we >> unfortunately, we couldn't we couldn't that. unfortunately couldn't see that. unfortunately but you it, it's but if you google it, it's really good. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> the point that when all >> the point is that when all politicians and do it, don't politicians try and do it, don't they on the they, they try and jump on the bandwagon and some them bandwagon and some of them actually no their foot. but actually do. no their foot. but i keir starmer i think keir starmer is a massive fan. he just dropped a video day, but calling massive fan. he just dropped a video bank day, but calling massive fan. he just dropped a

video bank holidayy, but calling massive fan. he just dropped a video bank holiday smacks. .ling for a bank holiday smacks. doesn't it have trying to get in on the action and it's so naff and also it's jinxing it. i think the australians are calling for a bank holiday and then knock out. so then we knock them out. yeah. so for sake, as i tweeted for goodness sake, as i tweeted him, it man. for goodness sake, as i tweeted hinyeah. it man. for goodness sake, as i tweeted hinyeah. and it man. for goodness sake, as i tweeted hinyeah. and they|an. for goodness sake, as i tweeted hinyeah. and they lost the >> yeah. and they lost the australians lost in the three four playoff plays today . four playoff plays today. >> we know flip flop you >> we know captain flip flop you know he probably changed sides halfway through the match but the old keir starmer, he'll be supporting spain after 40 minutes. >> this is it. we have got a bank holiday coming up, by the way, on monday week. it's not like there isn't one happening very, very soon. i know, but it's very last minute, isn't it? >> i eu- 5 look what's outside >> i mean, look what's outside 10 0h, >> i mean, look what's outside 10 oh, word . 10 downing street. oh, my word. i am. so that's pathetic . i'm so i am. so that's pathetic. i'm so underwhelmed. rishi if that's the best you can do. and he should really be on a plane and be in australia. support eating this side. do we know why time in history. we're in the world cup. >> we know why. why prince william is not going, don't we? because of the environment. and i've one i've already said that's one thing. only if he wouldn't

thing. but only if he wouldn't have gone if the men had got to the final. otherwise, it's absurd. but does the final. otherwise, it's absurd. know but does the final. otherwise, it's absurd. know rishi iut does the final. otherwise, it's absurd. know rishi sunak s the final. otherwise, it's absurd. know rishi sunak it's anyone know why rishi sunak it's not well. not going well. >> it's not on holiday. you see, i think he's back his i think he's back from his houday i think he's back from his holiday man. holiday with this man. >> this would >> i don't know. but this would be would be good be one time. it would be good for go. for him to go. >> it really would. instead of pretending the pretending like he did on the run prime minister, run ups to being prime minister, where he's talking about southampton, got the he got southampton, he got the he got the wrong and then there the score wrong and then there was pictures of pods , you was pictures of those pods, you know, nothing set up know, nothing against set up stage pictures, as you know, with me. but in the ground, i mean, seriously in the ground, you know , in the football ground you know, in the football ground and pretending go , you know, and pretending to go, you know, the nail on the head here. >> i don't understand how these politicians understand politicians cannot understand from whatever party they from whatever party that they cannot see that we can see. that is so transparently faked stage, whatever you want it for the public, we can see through it. >> it's so pathetic. be real. >> it's so pathetic. be real. >> so why do they do it? why are they insist? i mean, why do they insist on doing it? i mean, i remember once going back a bit now, to interview tony now, i went to interview tony blair to

blair and obviously it had to research. on research. you do some notes on me and everything. so he me and everything. and so he knew that i'm going to talk about i a about football because i know a lot football. certainly about football because i know a lot end football. certainly about football because i know a lot end football. so rtainly about football because i know a lot end football. so rtai sits east end football. so he sits down goes to me. so i down and he goes to me. so i understand aston villa understand you're an aston villa fan like , well, no, my fan and it's like, well, no, my claret blue is sort of claret and blue is sort of right, but it's west ham. >> yeah, actually, do you remember he trying really remember he was trying really hard. a newcastle hard. i think he was a newcastle fan. and to fair to him, he fan. and to be fair to him, he did a few header did try and do a few header headers. he keep up? did try and do a few header heewasy. he keep up? did try and do a few header heewas with he keep up? did try and do a few header heewas with his1e keep up? did try and do a few header heewas with his headep up? did try and do a few header heewas with his head with up? did try and do a few header heewas with his head with kevin he was with his head with kevin keegan , remember that? keegan, remember that? >> very embarrassing, >> it was very embarrassing, wasn't it? quite embarrassing. it was quite embarrassing. please fools please stop pretending the fools you know, they think we are fools . and sadly, we can see fools. and sadly, we can see straight through them. and please , rishi, do something with please, rishi, do something with that front door . honestly, i that front door. honestly, i feel like going around doing it myself . could a betterjob. myself. i could do a betterjob. >> exactly. if had >> well, exactly. if it had gone and there pitch. we and there was one pitch. we haven't. to haven't. we haven't managed to get the cat get that one. what's the cat called? larry? >> larry the cat literally sitting bunting sitting in front of that bunting looking all us are going looking like all of us are going like , what hell is this ? like, what the hell is this? >> i mean, but the thing is, as you lizzy, haven't you said, lizzy, we haven't there's preparation . like if you said, lizzy, we haven't the|boys preparation . like if you said, lizzy, we haven't the|boys were 3aration . like if you said, lizzy, we haven't

the|boys were playing. like if you said, lizzy, we haven't the|boys were playing. okay if you said, lizzy, we haven't the|boys were playing. okay you the boys were playing. okay you know, the supermarkets would have been full of basically for months beforehand bank holidays would have been sorted out. the licencing laws would have been sorted out just in case. >> but it's actually, it's would have been organised. >> stinks sexism. it's so >> stinks of sexism. it's so much for the men. i much different for the men. i honestly i disappointing honestly i was so disappointing even going into my local supermarket and there was no flags, no one seemed excited. you know, i remember with the men's and we didn't get anywhere. everyone anywhere. by the way, everyone was, you know, flags everywhere. you know, people come naturally, though. >> i'm not sure you can force it. i think, no, it should. having what i've said about having said what i've said about the this stuff , you the staging of this stuff, you do politicians to take do want politicians to take account of developers in the women's game and if we win, just wait till you see what rishi sunak will do. yes >> oh well, can you imagine if i do think the rest of us has to be natural? >> yeah, we were talking about this earlier. >> test is when you feel it >> the test is when you feel it in gut for the first in your gut and for the first time women's football, i felt in your gut and for the first tirin women's football, i felt in your gut and for the first tirin mynomen's football, i felt in your gut and for the first tirin my gut en's football, i felt in your gut and for the first tirin my gut duringotball, i felt in your gut and for the first tirin my gut during that l, i felt it in my gut during that semi—final and millions semi—final. and if millions of people country are

people around the country are having experience, having that same experience, then the next we're in a then the next time we're in a world final , let's hope world cup final, let's hope we're a world final we're in a world cup final again. i think it will be bigger. yeah, absolutely. also, it was in it doesn't help that it was in australia timing we australia because the timing we remember played remember when england played in korea, japan we all korea, in japan in 2002, we all had together at nine in had to get together at nine in the it's weird. the morning. it's weird. >> it's going to >> yeah, but it's still going to be me on a sunday be tough for me on a sunday getting time. but i'm getting up at that time. but i'm doing a world cup . i'm not that doing a world cup. i'm not that because i'm doing is going to another football match. >> the enemy is going to struggle. woman flee to drink that glass of champagne at 11:00 tomorrow morning, we'll be doing the football. >> but am bit disappointed >> but i am a bit disappointed with the debbie downers with some of the debbie downers that look, this that are saying, look, this isn't great as the men's isn't as great as the men's football. it's a different category. it's like comparing a heavyweight boxer to a lightweight . they're both lightweight. they're both as good exactly but good in their own. exactly but but the women have proved that they can through penalties , they can get through penalties, unlike our boys. and we're at the final first time in history. it is going to be, oh, we're going to have such a party and they're to bring it home. they're going to bring it home. >> say that, look, you

>> i'll just say that, look, you can't pretend it is as big because you to deal with because you have to deal with the i was arsenal the fact. so i was at arsenal last taking my last weekend taking my stepfather , and was a massive stepfather, and he was a massive goonen stepfather, and he was a massive gooner. to get tickets gooner. we tried to get tickets all last season. it was their great do we great season. couldn't do it. we went game of the went to the first game of the season was bang in the season and that was bang in the middle england the middle of england playing in the quarterfinal. by quarterfinal. yeah, obviously by definition have definition you wouldn't have that playing. that when the men are playing. but that was but the fact that there was 70,000 us at a football game 70,000 of us at a football game when england were in world cup when england were in a world cup quarterfinal shows that there is still progress to be made. but i think it will happen. >> know what? you see >> well, you know what? you see what women's football what happens to women's football after that? >> well, fingers crossed and we bnng >> well, fingers crossed and we bring as well. bring that cup home as well. right. is nothing right. but this show is nothing without your it's without you and your views. it's not or me not just about those two or me even. let's welcome of even. so, let's welcome some of our great british voices. this is your opportunity to be on the show and tell us what you really is your opportunity to be on the show aboutell us what you really is your opportunity to be on the show about the s what you really is your opportunity to be on the show about the topics you really is your opportunity to be on the show about the topics we're eally think about the topics we're discussing today. joined by discussing today. i'm joined by three of my great british voices today. three of my great british voices today . let's miranda today. let's go to miranda richards , who is from richards, who is from northamptonshire . miranda, thank northamptonshire. miranda, thank you very much for joining us. miranda, what do you make of this? mean, doing this

this? i mean, are we doing this women's world cup properly ? i women's world cup properly? i think it's a bit like everything you know, the women's game has definitely turned the last couple of years. >> the support for the lionesses is just growing and growing. and i think we're right. it has to become natural to us. we've had every game on here in my pub and we've watched every game. you know, we're right behind them. we're all ready for tomorrow morning. we can't wait. we're all really excited . and there is all really excited. and there is there is a growing population of people that are watching. and thankfully , it's starting with thankfully, it's starting with the young ones because they're the young ones because they're the ones that are going to be the ones that are going to be the next generation of football viewers. and that will take that women's game and grow it. you know, they're doing so well. i think that's the most important thing we have to remember. if you blink quickly when you're watching the game , it's not watching the game, it's not watching the game, it's not watching other game watching any other game of football don't football, except they don't spend on the floor spend longer on the floor rolling around, holding their knees. far knees. you know, they're far more active in what they're doing. and it's actually

doing. and it's a far actually better game to watch. and i'm a big fan. big football fan. >> brilliant. thank you >> that's brilliant. thank you very much that. go to very much for that. we go to o'brien dugan, who is joining us from solihull. good afternoon , from solihull. good afternoon, brian. what do you make of this? are we doing it properly? >> there's probably the place to for be this game. but look , it's for be this game. but look, it's a tremendous accomplishment by the lionesses and it really should be recognised. it's something that should be really organic . and so , i mean, it's no organic. and so, i mean, it's no shock or surprise that politicians might be grandstanding over this and jumping on the bandwagon. the latest bandwagon . but but there latest bandwagon. but but there should be some genuineness and earnestness about the support for the lionesses and everyone should be behind them. and in terms of the prime minister listen, if it was the man in the world cup final , it wouldn't world cup final, it wouldn't even be a decision. >> and there'd be no debate. and the prime minister would be there and think that he should be representing the country at this final as well. i thought

you were going to suggest maybe that larry the cat might be going in this place. but but really, everyone should be behind them. and the politicians , too. and let's hope it's a big win and we're all going to hopefully have a pint with with miranda in her local or in her in her own pub. >> right now to jonathan jones, who joins us from cornwall. jonathan, do you make of jonathan, what do you make of how handling this women's how we're handling this women's world ? hi. world cup? hi. >> keep >> yeah, definitely keep politics out of it. >> you know, footballers should be fun and entertaining and yeah, it doesn't matter whether it's boys or girls or whoever's playing should be fun to watch and the politics out of it. and keep the politics out of it. it's a bit like meeting with and keep the politics out of it. it's oppositionneeting with and keep the politics out of it. it's opposition shouldn't with and keep the politics out of it. it's opposition shouldn't be ith the opposition shouldn't be right or left. we should just have fun and talk to each other i >> -- >> sorry. absolutely sorry. we're of it'd we're running out of time. it'd be very quick. and finally we are david baum, who is are going to david baum, who is joining watford. david joining us from watford. david i don't very quick one. >> it shows you how much the establishment like it. >> nike have refused to release a replica of the goalie's shirt

despite being asked. so until they start taking it correctly , they start taking it correctly, then nobody is. >> i love to see serena wightman managing a premier team. think she basically wiped the floor with most of the managers. >> absolutely. thank you. yes she would actually a big fan of her. thank you so much for joining us. all of you. now it's time for the bit. i really dread because i have no idea what i'm doing, to be honest with you. the quickfire quiz it's the quickfire quiz, it's the part show where i test my part of the show where i test my panel some of other panel on some of the other stories hitting headlines stories hitting the headlines right . lizzie and matthew right now. lizzie and matthew are here. they have buzzers and we're not we're not conforming to gender stereotypes because matthew's got the pink one. and this is the blue one. see, we can do that, right? okay. now, how does this work? do i ask questions? now? >> you questions , right? >> you ask questions, right? >> you ask questions, right? >> the answer. >> you ask questions, right? >> questionthe answer. >> you ask questions, right? >> question one, nswer. >> you ask questions, right? >> question one, sheer. >> you ask questions, right? >> question one, she says >> so question one, she says nervously , never that's nervously, i never get. that's right. question one at school in scotland has made the headlines this for welcoming a large this week for welcoming a large number of pupils that happen to be twins . sets of twins, that

be twins. sets of twins, that is. but how many twins joined the school ? closest answer wins the school? closest answer wins . did they ? 20. . did they? 20. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> and the answer is 17. well, you didn't even give me an answer. >> i lost that. >> i lost that. >> all right . >> all right. >> all right. >> you just that was close. 18. >> you just that was close. 18. >> just jump , lizzie with the >> just jump, lizzie with the one. >> i was going to say eight. >> i was going to say eight. >> all right. okay okay. very, very well done, lizzie. >> at one point for lizzie, someone keeps score this as someone keeps score on this as well. at it. right? well. i'm rubbish at it. right? question this week saw the question two this week saw the first mother daughter duo to first mother and daughter duo to do what together ? go to space, do what together? go to space, climb mount everest or build a house. i think that was you, matthew. >> climb mount everest . >> climb mount everest. >> climb mount everest. >> lizzie. oh go to space. all right. okay. i scrolled down. i told you i was rubbish at this. why don't we talk about football some more? anyway, answer is going to space, so. but i mean, that was lizzie cheating, right? questions group eight questions from group eight species of snake was named after which famous actor this week .

which a famous actor this week. kim kardashian. harrison ford or robert . that was matthew i think robert. that was matthew i think harrison ford. and the answer is harrison ford. and the answer is harrison ford. and the answer is harrison ford . harrison ford. >> yes, because of tomb raider. >> yes, because of tomb raider. >> it was a natural edge. >> it was a natural edge. >> yes. >> yes. >> come on. well done. >> come on. well done. >> right. okay. a question for very, very quickly. this one, a huge temporary structure was erected in newcastle this week. but i'm sorry, i'm not going. but i'm sorry, i'm not going. but what was lizzie is bad on this one. but what was it made out of? a hay b cardboard or c bones ? bones? >> lizzie hey . >> lizzie hey. >> lizzie hey. >> okay. and the answer is i never called cardboard out. >> oh. well, i think won i that, though. i think i won that too. all then. are we. are we? yeah no, i give up. oh, we got one more final. okay >> the final. >> the final. >> i'm very competitive. right tomorrow. no, really . tomorrow tomorrow. no, really. tomorrow is the women's world cup final . is the women's world cup final. how many years has it been since

an england national team won the world cup? closest answer if you don't know this , you really do don't know this, you really do need 57. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> all right. go on. go on. lizzy, what's your answer? >> 57. >> 57. >> 57. >> it's a yes , darling. it's a draw. >> it's a draw. >> it's a draw. >> let's do the baby. >> let's do the baby. >> yes. ooh >> yes. ooh >> and can i just quickly say i've just had a message off woody little woody, because it's not actually up on the gb news website. it's go fund me, woody blight. we are truly devastated. >> finally . >> finally. >> finally. >> thank you very much. help! woody is a gorgeous. it is. >> right. we've got to help with it quickly. >> right. we've got to help with it qprediction for tomorrow's >> prediction for tomorrow's game lizzy it's going to penalties it's us england penalties and it's us england the girls, the lionesses are bringing it home, but it will go to penalties. >> to be on the >> it's going to be on the stuff. will have a lucky pants. >> i have matthew. >> i have matthew. >> lucky pants or not? no lucky pants. prediction. >> we're going to win 3—1 in normal time. >> 310. positive

>> 310. positive >> i like that. >> i like that. >> right. okay well, we have to go. oh, my god. it's been a blast. thank you so much. right. on today's show, we've been asking, have asking, does the nhs have lessons to learn lucy letby lessons to learn from lucy letby murders? according to our twitter poll, 92.5% of you say yes and 7.5 7.5% say no. i mean really. thank you to lizzie and matthew and now thank you for your company. i've loved it and support woody bright and support the girls tomorrow. have a wonderful sunday. we'll see you later . oh, the temperatures rising. >> boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm greg >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest news. weather forecast over the next 24 hours or so, we will see further showers largely focussed towards the northwest. the winds are easing as storm betty. generally eases and moves away from the uk, allowing high pressure to build in from the

south. so the best of the sunshine over the next few days will towards the southeast of will be towards the southeast of the uk into this evening time. still breezy across parts still fairly breezy across parts of northern ireland, north—west scotland with frequent showers here , clear spells here overnight, clear spells developing across parts of the midlands, eastern england and despite this, it will still be a warm night to come. still breezy around some western coast temperatures generally 15 or 16 celsius in towns and cities. even in the countryside , holding even in the countryside, holding up in double figures. so sunday morning, a bright start there will scattering of showers will be a scattering of showers from go western from the word go across western parts uk as we move parts of the uk as we move through the morning. the best of the across of the the sunshine across parts of the east midlands east anglia, east midlands into east anglia, southeast into the southeast england into the afternoon. we will see. we will see some scattered heavy showers developing, of places developing, but lots of places will dry. still breezy will stay dry. still breezy across the far north—west. temperatures high teens to low 20s, around 25 or 26, perhaps towards the southeast of england into monday . the towards the southeast of england into monday. the similar start to the weekend really , we'll see to the weekend really, we'll see showers across the west. best of

the sunshine across central and southeastern parts and through the day, temperatures will lift into the low 20s. it stays fine and dry tuesday and wednesday for many of us. >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .

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