her to court. parents drag her to court. parents demand that baby serial killer lucy letby is forced to come to her sentencing after reports that she's refusing to face the victims families and guess who doesn't represent real londoners? >> that was the message posted alongside a picture of four white people on london labour mayor sadiq khan's official website over the weekend. his office claim it was all a mistake . of course they do. does mistake. of course they do. does he need to apologise? yes. >> second place, the lionesses lost 1—0 to spain in the world cup final. but were you proud of england's ladies? did they put the men's team to shame ? we're the men's team to shame? we're going to be discussing that and push over britain. >> 1 in 2 of us think the uk is taken advantage of by other countries. only a quarter think britain gets a good deal from other places . do you think we other places. do you think we need to toughen up the world stage, not much .

stage, not much. >> let us know your thoughts on all of our talking points this morning. email us gb views at gb news. as always, it's nice to have you back. >> thank you. we're back. i think this is the first woman in the studio together for three or even four weeks. >> it was pretty much i was on holiday. >> i also got sick. the french did they did they poison me because brexiteer? was it because i'm a brexiteer? was it a gallic plot which gave me such a gallic plot which gave me such a bad stomach got back? a bad stomach when i got back? oh, now. yeah. a bad stomach when i got back? oh,okay. now. yeah. a bad stomach when i got back? oh,okay. well,1ow. yeah. a bad stomach when i got back? oh,okay. well, let. yeah. a bad stomach when i got back? oh,okay. well, let useah. a bad stomach when i got back? oh,okay. well, let us know your >> okay. well, let us know your thoughts this morning. won't you get touch with us? first of get in touch with us? first of all, though, here's tamsin roberts you. very latest news. >> bear, thanks very much and good morning from the gb newsroom. it's 931. lucy letby will be sentenced later for murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six more at the countess of chester hospital . the 33 year old former nurse has indicated she won't return to the dock today . manchester to the dock today. manchester crown court will hear person

statements from some of the parents of those killed or injured outside the impact letby has had on them. she committed the crimes whilst working on the neonatal unit at the hospital . neonatal unit at the hospital. between 2015 and 2016. children and families minister claire coutinho says the government is looking at changing the law. >> i think it's appalling. i think she should be there and i know that the justice secretary has said he's very committed to making changes that he needs to make sure that people who have committed awful crimes have to go to court so they can hear things like the victims impact statement, which is really their moment to tell that person how this has impacted them. there is a commitment across government to making sure that people who have committed crimes are facing the reality of that so that they can hear these things and my understanding that does mean that of the law is that a change of the law is needed. >> a 50 year old man will appear in court later following the major data breach in major police data breach in northern he's been

northern ireland. he's been charged with possessing documents likely to useful to documents likely to be useful to terrorists . it's after the terrorists. it's after the details of 10,000 officers and staff were published online by mistake . police believe the mistake. police believe the information is now in the hands of dissident republicans. england captain millie bright says the team will definitely bounce back from their world cup final loss to spain. the skipper says she's proud of the girls and that it isn't the end of the journey. the lionesses are now travelling back from australia. both labour leader sir keir starmer and the lib dems , ed starmer and the lib dems, ed davey, have called for them to be given honours . the government be given honours. the government is calling on housing associations. social landlords and developers to renew tenancy contracts to help childminders . contracts to help childminders. many living in rented accommodation are prevented from using their homes for business purposes. the department for education says too often prospective childminders are having the door slammed in their face. the government is also bringing in measures to encourage more people to care

for school aged children, including a £1,200 start up . including a £1,200 start up. grant well, you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , gb news. now, our website, gb news. now, though , back to andrew and bev . though, back to andrew and bev. >> well, glad to be back with you. beth and i back together again for the first time in 3 or 4 weeks. holidays and shenanigans. >> yes, food poisoning, french cooking. >> thought it was a country the capital of oak . i think that's capital of oak. i think that's i don't think that smoked salmon was okay. they nearly killed him. they tried to poison me. now, the government says lucy letby could be forced to appear in court and face victims families when she's a sentence date this afternoon . date this afternoon. >> so the baby killer is predicted to be handed full predicted to be handed a full life term and could be compelled predicted to be handed a full lifiattend and could be compelled predicted to be handed a full lift attend the could be compelled predicted to be handed a full lift attend the sentencing)mpelled predicted to be handed a full lift attend the sentencing if|pelled predicted to be handed a full lift attend the sentencing if she.ed to attend the sentencing if she continues to refuse . continues to refuse. >> but this is because the judge can't compel her to. but the

governor can. the governor of the prison, but only if reasonable force is used. we're going to be discussing what constitutes reasonable force, not enough force for her, as far as i'm concerned. the police now are saying the former nurse may have attacked us. 30 more babies i >> detective identified suspicious instance, they say from her time at the hospital . from her time at the hospital. our northwest of england reporter sophie reaper, who's done a brilliant job. sophie of covering this really distress case. the details, the harrowing accounts of the families that lost precious wants kid newborn poorly. babies has been quite something, hasn't it? what do we expect to happen today and what chance do you think there is of lucy letby being forced to appear to hear her sentencing . appear to hear her sentencing. >> well, it's been absolutely horrendous to describe it in one word. >> it seems almost improbable that it was over ten months ago that it was over ten months ago that we were here outside manchester crown court getting

ready for the imminent lucy letby trial. we're now ten months on from that point, but what's even more improbable is that those families of her victims have had to wait since almost 20 15 seconds for some of them to receive this justice. now, we know that it's most likely lucy letby is looking at a whole life tariff. of course, when one becomes the most , most when one becomes the most, most prolific serial killer of children in modern british history, that seems only to be expected . but the last few days expected. but the last few days in court last week for the last few verdicts, lucy letby did refuse to appear in the dock. justice goss questioned this, but the defence told him that that was her decision. she would no longer be appearing in the dock. no longer be appearing in the dock . so we now no longer be appearing in the dock. so we now imagine that will be the case for the sentencing thing. the judge , as sentencing thing. the judge, as you say, has no power to force her to. and if it is left up to lucy letby, in my mind it seems unlikely that we will see her. but this, of course, has sparked

huge controversy. but it's not a new issue. we know that jordan mcsweeney refused to face zara elena's family. we know thomas cashman back in april refused to face the family of olivia pratt—korbel . and now we see pratt—korbel. and now we see that lucy letby is most likely set to refuse to face the families of her victims, who, of course , seven murders and seven course, seven murders and seven counts of attempted murder between june of 2015 and june of 2016. now it does seem improbable that she will be in the dock today , but we just the dock today, but we just don't know at this point . so as don't know at this point. so as we get to the sentencing later on today, we'll be bringing you all of the latest. >> okay , sophie reaper up at >> okay, sophie reaper up at manchester crown court. we've got with us, of course, our favourite political commentator here, piers potter. piece. here, piers potter. your piece. this you don't need to. it's this is you don't need to. it's shocking. and appalling. and again , another killer, evil again, another killer, evil killer is going to show what a coward they are by not being in the witness box, because the

governor can say she should go into court. but what is reasonable force? reasonable force? for me, i would change her and gag her like hannibal lecter if necessary. i seriously mean that so she can hear the witness statements from the families whose lives have been devastated by her and devastated by her actions and hear the sentencing . hear the sentencing. >> well, clearly it's wrong . and >> well, clearly it's wrong. and i don't think there's anyone in the who thinks it's the country who thinks it's right has right to right that she has the right to choose as britain's most appalling child killer of all time . i'm appalling child killer of all time. i'm afraid appalling child killer of all time . i'm afraid she forfeits time. i'm afraid she forfeits the rights to choose whether she can face the victims. it's actually the victims families who it takes an awful lot for them to face her, quite frankly. and the fact that they are brave enough to do it and to make these statements after a ten month trial, the longest murder trial in english history, it's shocking. and i think this is the sort of occasion where it's

not political across any any party, political. there's no question, in my view that this is something that should be acted on immediately by the government. >> the justice secretary, alex chalk, said months ago, we're going to do this. the labour party agree with it, the lib dems agree with it. they could do it in a day or is it going to get stuck in the house of lords with wretched human rights with those wretched human rights lawyers hope not. i mean, if >> well, i hope not. i mean, if it's the king's speech, then it's in the king's speech, then it's in the king's speech, then it should possible have it it should be possible to have it laid before parliament. certainly by the year end. so it could by year end. could happen by the year end. but still a long off. but that's still a long way off. and will whoever else and will allow whoever else choose us to do this to do it. and it's something that it quite rightly angers everyone justice. >> yes, i am. i've done see, beth is queasy. >> i'm a bit queasy about this because how do we do that? >> i mean, i know well, i say you're slightly joking, but you're slightly joking, but you're not joking, are you? when you're not joking, are you? when you you would strap chain you say you would strap chain her some sort of gurney and we'll her in. well, that

we'll her in in. well, that that's not what we do in this country. our judiciary is the envy of the world. and i don't think i want to live in a country where we drag people into court against their will. it would look awful, wouldn't it, on the world stage? >> no worse than the things she did to those children. well i mean, afraid i disagree with mean, i'm afraid i disagree with you because i think, you know , you because i think, you know, this is the sort of the way society is going. >> we are spending far too much time . right. giving everyone the time. right. giving everyone the benefit of the doubt. i mean, this woman, letby, deserves no sympathy, deserves absolutely no benefit of any doubt after what she's done. and it may even be w0 i'se. woi'se. >> worse. >> i agree with all that. >> i agree with all that. >> she should be there. i mean , >> she should be there. i mean, thatis >> she should be there. i mean, that is the law. and it's absolutely. and what we're talking really about here is prison guards who are scared of being criticised for using unreasonable force . that's the

issue. >> they'll get prosecuted and that's what we're debating, which is crazy to me. >> i think in terms of we need to learn all the lessons from it. i'm much more, i think, interested in how she was able to get away with this for so long. and that was certainly thematically what talking thematically what we're talking about. upset about. nobody wanted to upset her. nobody to or people her. nobody wanted to or people did. then she in with did. and then she came in with her and a her parents and a head a statement saying that was statement saying that she was innocent. everybody was frightened to offend this woman in that hospital environment. whistle blowers don't do well on the nhs, do we? we that the nhs, do we? we know that there can absolutely there can be absolutely a bullying within nhs bullying culture within nhs wards, but it feels like it's gone way too far and everyone was treading on eggshells around her. absolutely. her. well absolutely. >> and i mean, i go back to my one of my favourite invisible people , amanda pritchard, the people, amanda pritchard, the chief executive of the nhs , from chief executive of the nhs, from whom we've heard precisely nothing other than a limp letter to nhs trusts reminding them to take notice of whistleblowers . take notice of whistleblowers. if you had one of your employees

murder seven people, i think , murder seven people, i think, and you have a duty of care to the people that she murdered, i think you would be take it a little bit more seriously, make at least a very compassionate apology to her shareholders, i.e. the whole of the british public. >> she should be in court to and i mean, amanda. >> and what is quite clear here is that the management of the nhs has been absolutely appalling . yeah, 48% of the 1.2 appalling. yeah, 48% of the 1.2 million people employed by the nhs and non—medical they are in management or administrative roles that shows you again that the nhs and this was a small hospital relative , small hospital relative, small hospital relative, small hospital that had tears and tears of management who all blocked the consultants from stopping this madwoman. continuing her horrific killing and i'd if i hope that this will

persuade people that the nhs is institutionally completely ruined and needs fundamental reappraisal and restructuring , reappraisal and restructuring, would you be satisfied with the piping would you be satisfied with the piping in the court footage to her cell? >> well, i think she'd just put her fingers in her ears and hum to herself or something. >> i don't know. and also why should we? i mean , who cares should we? i mean, who cares what she thinks? >> that's what i think. >> that's what i think. >> well, i'm afraid i rather agree with you. >> i don't care what she thinks. she has no view in this. >> if she's in, she's not apologise . apologise. >> she show no compassion. she's not to anything. not admitted to anything. who cares get her cares what she thinks? get her in court. however it takes. in the court. however it takes. >> i agree . >> i agree. >> i agree. >> she's got a hat. she could get a one foot. one foot, one hand, drag her in and get hand, drag her in there and get a screamer. shout as much she likes. and if she screams too much her. much gag her. >> i don't think she has anyone in this country who would have sympathy her choosing not to sympathy for her choosing not to face the music. i'm sorry. i i just don't think it's right.

>> she's evil. she's a monster, and she's gutless. absolutely. and now we know she's gutless. >> yes. yeah, i, i what do we have any idea what other countries do in this situation? >> because i would bet those civilised nations i bet you with adults grown up judiciaries, those don't killers are not allowed to languish downstairs. >> they'll be they'll be chained . they'll be chained. i chain her. yeah. we want to talk to you about another great event. the football . now, you and the football. now, you and i have known each other for over 25 years. i don't think we've ever discussed football match. normally you know, however, even i had it on in the background and cheering them on. >> they did. >> yes, they did. >> yes, they did. >> did. two. they didn't >> they did. two. they didn't make is starmer right make it is keir starmer right that they all deserve a damehood no dont that they all deserve a damehood no don't think so. because >> i don't think so. because they didn't win . and i also they didn't win. and i also think this concept now of rushing to give people honours for almost on the spur of the moment for anything is wrong and not all the 1966. well, no players. i mean my particular

favourite was nobby stiles . did favourite was nobby stiles. did he get anything? he got nothing . i think he got an obe. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> latterly. yeah. >> latterly. yeah. >> i think he did more for dentistry than any. >> yeah, he was great. but what about the elephant in the room? where was prince william? >> well, he should have been president of the football, should have been there for three reasons. he's president reasons. one, he's president of the association , the the football association, the engush the football association, the english football association . english football association. and was there a bigger match in the than this? no the the world than this? no the second reason is his duty to the commonwealth. now when the royal family are trying to keep the commonwealth together, the match was being played in australia, but still part of the commonwealth. but shaky . yeah. commonwealth. but shaky. yeah. and i think he should have been there for that reason and of course that's why they sent cleverly instead foreign secretary because he's the foreign and commonwealth office secretary state. but it shouldn't be a political matter. it should be a head of state. yeah, a member of the royal family of seniority, if not

prince william should have been there. the third reason he should have been there was just to support our wonderful lionesses . lionesses. >> yes. >> yes. >> which is why he should have been have been there been there. he'd have been there if male team. if it was a male team. >> of course, he was. >> you see, princess anne, >> and you see, princess anne, for favourite royal, for example, my favourite royal, she is the patron of the scottish rugby union and she attends match. attends every match. >> yes, she does. >> if it had been the men prince william, everyone would have been of course, you could been there. of course, you could say , all right, well, it's not say, all right, well, it's not and not as it's not as big and it's not as it's not as big on the global stage. it's not it doesn't make much money. they doesn't make as much money. they aren't it aren't household names, but it will never unless it will never get there unless it has support of senior role has the support of senior role models. those people in authority in this country identifies another role model who was missing. >> yes, they missed the biggest and most highly paid football pundh and most highly paid football pundit the land . one gary pundit in the land. one gary lineker, paid for , was lineker, paid for, was conspicuous by his absence as well. yeah, and i mean, if he and he's the first person on twitter to sound off on every subject and i think he's sounded off in the past about how we

should support our lionesses . should support our lionesses. yeah. why wasn't he why wasn't he there? >> well, i would say gabby >> well, i would say that gabby logan, it was her big moment as well. >> she's been commentating. she'd on football she'd been working on football spectator . spectator. >> they could easily have afforded to go as a spectator and normally he's quite keen to get a freelance job with another broadcaster to pay his way so you can attend these matches . you can attend these matches. but he seemed to show no interest in attending. no. and i think that was a very poor. yeah. >> and the standard, let's be honest , the standard is not as honest, the standard is not as good as the men's game, but then you're an expertise because i didn't watch much of it. well, one of the most entertaining things for me was having a few men in my life watching the football, offering their slightly derogatory comment about i'm about the women's football. i'm sure not alone sure i wasn't. i'm not alone in that. having experience, that. having that experience, but they are still but i think what they are still the second best team in the world and regardless of what you think and they the european championship. >> yes, it's a phenomenal achievement. >> we should be very proud of them . it's done wonders for them. it's done wonders for football and in australia the

semi—final and i haven't seen the figures for the final yet, but the semi—final was the most watched sporting event in australia in television history . that is incredible for a that very chauvinist sporting country. >> and i love the question put to the english manager whose name i forgive me, i can't remember. and they said, oh , so remember. and they said, oh, so you've got the girls to the final. are you now going to go into men's football? her face was picture other words, was a picture in other words, this still this is still this is still this is still second rate. this is still the cinderella you need to get in with the boy. she didn't with the big boy. she didn't answer was more answer it. she was more diplomatic thought you diplomatic than i thought you might have been. >> well, with that for >> well, staying with that for now, lionesses have spoken now, the lionesses have spoken of their pride and disappointment after losing to of their pride and disapjyesterday after losing to of their pride and disapjyesterday .fter losing to spain yesterday. >> somebody was watching with a keen eye. was former referee and fifa instructor janey frampton. janey they did their best, but they were on the day they were outplayed, weren't they ? outplayed, weren't they? >> yes. good morning . um, >> yes. good morning. um, obviously i was beyond excited

yesterday , but it was really yesterday, but it was really clear from the beginning spain were dictating the play. and once the opposition starts to dictate the play, it's very difficult for you to play your own game. and that's what happened. we were following play the whole game, so we were pretty much second best. unfortunately even though it was a fabulous spectacle for women's football . football. >> now this i'm not going to go too much into football punditry here. andrew because i'd be on thin ice, as you would be. but once they got to those that injury time , that last ten injury time, that last ten minutes, they went for it in a way that they hadn't done for the previous 80, previous 90 minutes before that. i think it's about 13 minutes wasn't there of injury time and they didn't i think they had didn't i don't think they had the real fire in their bellies. partly you might say, because there was no king, king charles there, there was no prince william. there there was no prime minister. there may be having those figures there in the stand might given them the stand might have given them that extra , extra kind of

that extra, extra kind of impetus in the sense that they've got to rise to the occasion in so i think there's two parts to that. >> i think firstly, i think the last ten minutes you can afford to show to throw caution to the wind , which strategically and wind, which strategically and technically you wouldn't do earlier on in the game. now whether or not not having a member of our royal family then made a difference, i would think possibly not, although i do have an opinion that i do feel either prince william or our prime minister should have been there. i heard yesterday there may have been some royal protocols that prevented prince william, which is fine. but if that was the case, we should have had our prime minister there, you know, to send our foreign secretary. i didn't think was really appropriate. it didn't send the right message . right message. >> the king as king charles has not been to australia since he succeeded the throne a year ago . it would be in appropriate for

his to son go before him. so what? we haven't had a football team in a world cup final since 1966. let's rip up the convention book or the protocol book and get him out there. i think it was just an excuse . he think it was just an excuse. he was on holiday and he didn't want to go. i think he's either stubborn or lazy or both are with you . with you. >> i'm with you all the way. you know, this was a one off moment. this is going to change the face of girls and women's football. without a doubt. regardless of the fact that our women didn't win the game, it is going to change a face. and already it's opening so many conversations now , which i heard you touched now, which i heard you touched on earlier , you know, on earlier, you know, particularly about the coach , particularly about the coach, particularly about the coach, particularly about the pay of the women and what next and the accessibility for girls , young accessibility for girls, young girls, to be able to play football. >> and i looked at some figures before for this world cup, 47% of secondary schools were offering football for girls . do

offering football for girls. do you expect this figure is going to soar now, not least because girls will be demanding the chance to play football ? chance to play football? >> yes , you know, this has been >> yes, you know, this has been an argument for years and i still don't think that 47% is high enough . still don't think that 47% is high enough. um, more so. there's a higher coverage. i think it's something like 75% in primary schools. but the secondary schools, we need to do better than that. but in actual fact, we need to do better than those percentages across all sports. now, for young people , sports. now, for young people, how are we ever going to get the next generation to be sort of fit and healthy? there's a massive knock on effect, but we have to stop this. this is for boys. this is for girls . we have boys. this is for girls. we have to just throw that away and just say everybody has to have access to whatever sport. it's not difficult . it's not complicated i >> -- >> do you have any idea, janey, when the next big women's football event, we can look forward to what what will be the next one? >> because we don't want to lose the momentum, do we,

particularly you know, i've got two teenage girls getting them to do any sport, frankly, is difficult. often they have too much interesting things to look at on their phones. most of the kids these days, they don't want to go out and do sport. it's a real effort to make them. so how do we keep this momentum going now with women's football ? now with women's football? >> think there's several >> yeah, i think there's several things. first, let's look at the bafics things. first, let's look at the basics. we need to get more football in sport, football in schools. we need you look at the rise of the women's super league attendances now they've risen by 61% since the euros . that is 61% since the euros. that is phenomenal . and also i could phenomenal. and also i could probably spend all day talking about the argument of the extra money that that's bringing in and where that's going. but we won't that. think won't touch that. but think we've euros next. so we've got the euros next. so every two years we have either the euros or the world cup. and i think our girls are going to be did they're going to get be did they're just going to get better better. they've better and better. they've got such mental strength . such amazing mental strength. yesterday, were just the yesterday, spain were just the better team. we couldn't get away from that. you know ,

away from that. you know, technically, i could talk about we were second to the ball. we gave them too much space and all of things that were so of those things that were so obvious through the game, just not on the day. >> sorry to interrupt you. former referee fifa former referee and fifa instructor there. instructor janey frampton there. don't anywhere . don't go anywhere. >> that warm feeling >> i like that warm feeling inside from boxed bowyer's proud sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello , i'm dan stroud and >> hello, i'm dan stroud and this is your latest gb news forecast from the met office . forecast from the met office. >> so for the week ahead, we have low pressure in charge and it will gradually win out. and that area of low pressure is already pushing thicker cloud with outbreaks of rain in across northern ireland and parts of western scotland and further to the south and east across much of england and wales , after of england and wales, after generally bright, starts largely dry with some decent amounts of sunshine and with those sunniest spells, those temperatures will rise comfortably into the mid 20 5, rise comfortably into the mid 20 s, especially across the south

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represent real londoners that was the message posted alongside a picture of four white people, a picture of four white people, a family depicted on sadiq khan's official website over the weekend. his office claimed that it was all a mistake because he needs to apologise, calling second place, the lionesses lost 1—0 to spain in the world cup final . final. >> were you proud of them? did they put the men's team to shame ? >> 7 >> whooshi over britain. one and two of us think that the uk is taken advantage of by other countries with just a quarter thinking that britain gets a good deal from other nations . do good deal from other nations. do you think we need to toughen up on the world stage . on the world stage. and imagine if they had won the lionesses? >> how much more pointed it would have looked better that prince william was not there while the queen of spain was there dancing with the winning

team. he's a future king. he's the president of the football association . australia part association. australia is part of commonwealth. he's going of the commonwealth. he's going to be king of australia one day. he have been he should have been there, should been there. should have been there. >> gb gb news is the email >> gb views gb news is the email address. prince address. do you think prince william been there william should have been there yesterday? know. first of yesterday? let us know. first of all, though, his roberts all, though, his tamsin roberts with the . news there. with the. news there. >> thank you and good morning from the gb newsroom. it's 10:01. lucy letby will be sentenced today for murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six more at the countess of chester hospital. the 33 year old former nurse has indicated she won't return to the dock . she won't return to the dock. manchester crown court will hear personal statements from some of the parents of those killed or injured outlining the impact. letby has had on them. she committed the crimes whilst working on the neonatal unit at the hospital between 2015 and 16. children and families minister claire coutinho says the government is looking at

changing the law. >> i think it's appalling. i think she should be there and i know that the justice secretary has said he's very committed to making changes, that he needs to make sure that people who have committed awful crimes have to go to court so they can hear things like the victims impact statement, which is really their moment to tell that person how this has impacted them. there is a commitment across government to making sure that who to making sure that people who have committed crimes are facing the reality of that so that they can hear these things. and my understanding that does mean that the law is that a change of the law is needed. >> well, shadow prisons minister ellie reeves says the government has had time to change the law . has had time to change the law. >> there's a number of things that the government could have done. that the government could have done . for example, giving the done. for example, giving the judge powers to increase sentence , saying where someone sentence, saying where someone fails to turn up for the hearing. you could also look at things like prison privileges, for example . and there's also for example. and there's also been this suggestion that where

a defendant refuses to attend court proceedings could be live streamed into their cells. the reality is, is that the government have had months and months to deal with this issue. they've failed to act, and that's going to result in cowardly. lucy letby not attending court today , a 50 year attending court today, a 50 year old man will appear in court later following the major police data breach in northern ireland. >> he's been charged with possessing documents likely to be useful to terrorists. it's after the details of 10,000 officers and staff were published online by mistake . the published online by mistake. the leak contains a surname and initial of every employee they rank where they're based and the unit they work in. police believe the information is now in the hands of dissident republicans . the government is republicans. the government is calling on housing associations, social landlords and developers to review tenancy contracts to help childminders many living in rented accommodation are prevented from using their homes for business purposes . the for business purposes. the department for education says

too often prospective childminders are having the door slammed in their face. the government is also bringing in measures to encourage more people to care for school aged children, including a £1,200 start up grant from today, londoners are eligible for a cash grant of up to £2,000 for cars that don't comply with low emissions policies. the mayor of london scrappage scheme will cost around £110 million. it begins today ahead of the expanded ulez, which will cover all london boroughs from the 29th of august. but the policy faces opposition in other parts of government , with a council of government, with a council leader in hertfordshire refusing to erect signs warning drivers of the new low emission zone. conservative london assembly member neil garrett says the new ulez requirements have been rushed and he's really rushed this through. >> he only announced in november last year that he was going to do this, so people have had less than a year at a time of real

financial pressure potentially to try to replace their car. and now seeing this evidence now we're seeing this evidence that are that the benefits that are touted the ulez expansion touted for the ulez expansion are either very small or, you know, there's question marks about behind them . about the evidence behind them. i think whole policy is i think the whole policy is really needs, needs a rethink. is this the best way to clean up london's have people london's air and have people been given time to been given enough time to get ready it? don't think they have. >> england captain millie bright says the team will definitely bounce from world cup bounce back from their world cup final loss to spain. the skipper says she's proud of the girls and that it isn't the of the and that it isn't the end of the journey. the lionesses are now travelling back from australia, both leader sir keir both labour leader sir keir starmer dems, ed starmer and the lib dems, ed davey, for them to starmer and the lib dems, ed da'given for them to starmer and the lib dems, ed da'given honours for them to starmer and the lib dems, ed da'given honours and them to starmer and the lib dems, ed da'given honours and today to be given honours and today britain's oldest person gets a year older. ethel mae katrin from hampshire is celebrating her 114th birthday. the super centurion was born in 1909. very happy birthday to you, ethel . happy birthday to you, ethel. this is gb news across the uk on

tv in your car , on digital tv in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying, play gb news. now, though, back to andrew and bev . though, back to andrew and bev. >> well , so good though, back to andrew and bev. >> well, so good morning. yeah. lucy letby, she's going to be well, we don't think she is going to be in court this morning. that's the whole point. but she's going to be sentenced today. but there will be the victims families will be reading today. but there will be the victtheiramilies will be reading today. but there will be the vict their victims will be reading today. but there will be the vict their victims statements. ng out their victims statements. >> you've been getting touch >> you've been getting in touch this morning this. one this morning about this. one viewer someone viewer said, make someone appean viewer said, make someone appear. it will never happen until the human until we get rid of the human rights and leave the echr we rights act and leave the echr we protect rights of protect more rights of criminals. but harvey is a bit in with it's like, in agreement with me. it's like, what the point what would be the point of letting in the letting of let b being in the box screaming and upsetting h arvey. harvey. >> she would be gagged in my world. she would be gagged so she couldn't scream. she would be forced to listen. sit through those victim statements and listen to what the judge has to say when she gets a sentence .

say when she gets a sentence. she has rights here. none she has no rights here. none whatsoever. they should whatsoever. none. they should drag her into court , i'm afraid. drag her into court, i'm afraid. and they've got to change the law and they could change it very, very quickly. why have we got to wait for a king's speech? >> i know. well yeah, well, the baby predicted to be baby killer is predicted to be handed term and handed a full life term and could compelled to attend could be compelled to attend the sentencing continues to sentencing if she continues to refuse use. sentencing if she continues to refltherse. sentencing if she continues to reflthe police fear she may have >> the police fear she may have attacked as many as 30 more babies after detectives identified suspicious incidents from time at the hospital. from her time at the hospital. >> let's speak to richard scorer now, who's the head of abuse law and public enquiries of slater and public enquiries of slater and law firm , who and gordon law firm, who represented two of the victims family . and you're advising family. and you're advising i believe, on some aspects of the pubuc believe, on some aspects of the public inquiry, richard . what public inquiry, richard. what should that public inquiry look like? because at the moment it isn't going to be judge led, which means that nobody can be compelled to give evidence. but why would anybody working for the cooperate with such the nhs not cooperate with such an inquiry ? an inquiry? >> well, that's the nub of the

issue. why would anybody not cooperate ? but we know we're cooperate? but we know we're deaung cooperate? but we know we're dealing here with a set of hospital managers who were not keen, to put it mildly, to have the truth of this come out. that seems be clear already . so it seems to be clear already. so it would be naive to think that you're going to get proper cooperation the context of an cooperation in the context of an inquiry and so in order to have an effect of inquiry, we need an inquiry with proper powers. the power to compel witnesses to attend and answer questions , but attend and answer questions, but also the power to compel production of documents. that's really important as well because there will be lots of documents that going be that are going to be very relevant to and the relevant to this. and the inquiry needs to see all of them and be make a proper and be able to make a proper judgement what's happened. judgement about what's happened. and that if it and it can only do that if it has proper powers. has the proper powers. >> richard, you're representing two only knows two families. god only knows what they've going through, what they've been going through, how how distressing was it for your clients to learn that one of the issues about not calling in the police earlier was the idea to do so would potentially damage the reputation of the

hospital ? hospital? >> i think it's horrific and appalling, and unfortunately, it's something we've seen on all in too all many cases, whether it's to do with with awful situations like this or child abuse or so on institution and organisations placing reputable national protection ahead of patient safety and public safety . so it's something we've seen far too often . and in the health far too often. and in the health service, i think we have a particular problem in that clinicians , with clinicians, clinicians, with clinicians, there's a process of accountability for them, but with hospital managers that doesn't seem to be a proper process of accountability. and you get this situation where hospital managers can can fail and then fail upwards and get promoted into other roles where they fail and then , you know, they fail and then, you know, retire and gold plated pensions and all of those things. and thatis and all of those things. and that is something that cuts across the whole of the health service, not just this case. and it's that the inquiry it's something that the inquiry needs it's something that the inquiry neethis woman, this killer had >> this woman, this killer had line and it didn't take line managers and it didn't take the police so long when they

came in to work out the recurring theme that when staff went off off shift, the collapse of the baby was when she was there off done alone. why we need to hear from these line managers , don't we in this managers, don't we in this pubuc managers, don't we in this public inquiry or in this inquiry and possibly do they not potentially face criminal proceedings themselves as well? >> i'm not going to jump the gun on that. we have to see exactly what happened. and that's why we need an effective inquiry to bnng need an effective inquiry to bring that need to get bring that out. we need to get to truth. that's really to the truth. that's really important. think then more important. and i think then more broadly that, have broadly than that, we have to look at accountability of look at the accountability of the here and then the individuals here and then how can ensure there is how we can ensure that there is proper accountability , proper accountability, management accountability across the as well. management accountability across the richard, as well. management accountability across the richard, in as well. management accountability across the richard, in those well. management accountability across the richard, in those instances >> richard, in those instances as andrew just said, where it was quite obvious that the shifts in which lucy letby was was on these babies were falling into distress . and obviously into distress. and obviously some of them lost their lives . some of them lost their lives. seven babies at her hands was there ever a sense within the

department that she just wasn't doing a good job, that she was mis measuring the milk that she gave these babies ? because when gave these babies? because when we say she murdered these children , the very subtle , very children, the very subtle, very clever, very you have to have a knowledge of the science and the doctors and you'd have to have a knowledge of the medicine that you were distributing to end these lives in this way. was there ever a sense that she was locked into it just being not very good at her job? very good at herjob? >> i that is one of >> well, i mean, that is one of the that needs to be the issues that needs to be unpicked here. but i think what a point all a fundamental point in all of this is when you have failings in the health service, who is looking who is making looking at those? who is making the judgement about gone the judgement about what's gone wrong? obviously wrong? because obviously you had scientifically trained clinician expressing and expressing concern and identifying that there was a problem and then you have managers deciding how to deal with that when they don't actually when they're not actually when they're not actually scientifically trained. i you can get health i mean, you can get into health service degree service management with a degree in, know, politics or in, you know, politics or history so they don't history of art. so they don't necessarily scientific necessarily have that scientific training. think more

training. and i think more generally across the health service where you evidence service where you have evidence that something gone wrong, that something has gone wrong, we look at who is then we need to look at who is then making judgement about what making the judgement about what there done about it. there needs to be done about it. is judgement being made in is that judgement being made in dependently or is it being made by may be by managers who may not be trained to make assessment and may have a stake in reputational protection, which means that they don't address the issue properly ? properly? >> isn't that the point, richard, that potentially then these managers who made these are managers who made these are managers who made these who overruled these decisions, who overruled these decisions, who overruled the people, were the medical people, were thinking about the reputational damage of the hospital and perhaps themselves ? perhaps themselves? >> yeah, that's that's an absolutely key issue. i mean, it's very clear that reputational protection was a feature here. and it actually i mean, it's stated in terms in one of the management communication. so we know that was an issue . we obviously need was an issue. we obviously need to unpick the detail behind that and then see what we to do and then see what we need to do to ensure that that doesn't happen rest of the happen across the rest of the health because, i mean, health service because, i mean, you know, these kinds of things have before and they'll have happened before and they'll happen we get

happen again unless we get a grip it. grip on it. >> are these families >> richard, are these families liable receive compensation liable to receive compensation for their loss? we know that obviously litigation within the nhs is a huge , huge area which nhs is a huge, huge area which costs billions every year when medical malpractice is found to have happened. what's the situation for the families now ? situation for the families now? >> well, that'll be something that will have to be addressed down the line and that's not the primary focus of the families at the moment. the focus of the families is making sure that we get a proper and that get a proper inquiry and that proper are learnt. proper lessons are learnt. because, you know, i know this is cliche, but they do not is a cliche, but they do not want people to to go want other people to have to go through they've been through what they've been through. and that's why it's so important learn lessons important to learn the lessons here. important to learn the lessons herjust just briefly, richard, >> just just briefly, richard, you are representing two families. debate families. there's a great debate and about whether let's and who are about whether let's be be the witness box to be will be in the witness box to hear sentence, to hear the hear the sentence, to hear the witness statements, the families you they prefer witness statements, the families ycthat they prefer witness statements, the families ycthat she they prefer witness statements, the families ycthat she was they prefer witness statements, the families ycthat she was . they prefer it that she was. >> absolutely. and you know, i've represented victims of crime for the best part of 25 years, victims of serious crime and having the defendant in the

witness box to hear the sentence and listen to victim impact statements is a really important part of justice and accountability. we've got to change the law on this. there are things that we can do. i mean, they've been talked about this morning and it's something that definitely needs to happen. >> like to see people >> would you like to see people dragged their on dragged in against their will on handcuffs or in any way ? handcuffs or in any way? >> i don't want a situation where a defendant is making a spectacle of the trial process. we've got avoid that. but we've got to avoid that. but i do think it's important that the court the power. if court has the power. if necessary, to do that, to ensure that the prisoner is produced. i mean, i think that's something that's got to be addressed. there are legal complexities around it has got to around that, but it has got to be addressed got to be be addressed and it's got to be done. sort of penalties done. what sort of penalties could be added on for a defendant in order to make them go well, again, go into court? well, again, that's a new law that's something that a new law would address. would need to address. obviously, approach would be obviously, the approach would be that it would become an aggravating factor in sentencing. but of course, in the that may not be the letby case, that may not be relevant if she gets a whole life you know, that's life term, you know, that's going change because her

going to change because of her non—appearance. going to change because of her non—appithey ce. going to change because of her non—appithey could say solitary >> well, they could say solitary confinement and no visits. >> well , look, i confinement and no visits. >> well, look, i you confinement and no visits. >> well , look, i you know, i, confinement and no visits. >> well, look, i you know, i, i share the sentiment that you're expressing. and i think that this is something that needs to be looked at properly. we need to get a change in the law so that the prisoners can't behave in this way. it's an important part of justice and accountability that attend accountability that they attend sentencing. need ensure sentencing. we need to ensure that happens. you , that that happens. thank you, richard there from slater. >> and gordon. interesting, isn't it? >> really interesting . and >> really interesting. and because she's probably going to get a full life sentence, they can't add to the sentence, but they could say you're not going to get a visitor. >> there's got to be i'm comfortable. very comfortable. i'm very comfortable. i'm very conobviously, solitary >> obviously, solitary confinement yeah, we're >> obviously, solitary confint0|ent yeah, we're >> obviously, solitary confinto bet yeah, we're >> obviously, solitary confinto be talking yeah, we're >> obviously, solitary confinto be talking about|, we're >> obviously, solitary confinto be talking about this're >> obviously, solitary confinto be talking about this at going to be talking about this a little course, to little later, of course, to sarah when we talk sarah vine bush when we talk about the papers. sarah vine about the papers. and sarah vine wrote powerful piece the wrote a very powerful piece the other day about how letby is truly face of evil. she is truly the face of evil. she is now on holiday. >> companies are calling for the aviation have extra aviation watchdog to have extra powers directly fine airlines powers to directly fine airlines who don't fulfil their

obugafions who don't fulfil their obligations to customers over refunds cancellations . refunds and cancellations. >> you her. lisa millar is >> you know her. lisa millar is travel editor at the sun and has been on more planes than most. quite lot of i'm sure lisa quite a lot of i'm sure lisa have been or haven't turned have been late or haven't turned up or haven't left at all. what do you make of it all and what exactly pushing for? exactly are people pushing for? >> so this is part of a >> well, so this is part of a campaign that which the consumer association been running association had been running for quite a while trying to get quite a while now trying to get the government the civil the government to give the civil aviation authority more powers, more enforcement powers , so that more enforcement powers, so that at the moment you know, the civil aviation authority can say to an airline, we are not happy with what you've done and you've got better, but there's no got to do better, but there's no kind of consequence that. we kind of consequence to that. we saw that british saw just recently that british airways . $1.1 million airways was fined. $1.1 million by the us authorities because of the failure to actually give people back their money quickly enough during the pandemic. in contrast, here in the uk and exceptional enforcement action has been taken against wizz airlines by the civil aviation authority. but that has just

basically meant that they've signed up to make sure that they will adhere to the rules. and still, they don't adhere to still, if they don't adhere to the rules, there's nothing much. the can do about it. >> and people really know, >> and people don't really know, do they? lisa what they might be entitled to as individuals if a flight is delayed, is it if it's delayed for more than three hours, most of us could could charge could claim compensation of about between 200 and £500. believe. >> that's right . believe. >> that's right. but that's only if this is the circumstances around the delay were completely the airline's fault . and what the airline's fault. and what we've had in recent months , as we've had in recent months, as i'm sure you've seen, is a lot of industrial action and a lot of industrial action and a lot of problems with air traffic control systems across europe, partly in place because of ukraine, because, of course, we've more restricted we've got much more restricted airspace because of those no airspace now because of those no fly ukraine and fly zones over ukraine and russia . so it has impacted russia. so it has impacted airlines in the case that it wasn't their fault. but in the case where it is their fault, yes, there should be far more automatic compensation given what we've got at the moment, though, is the government suggesting that for domestic

flights compensation flights that the compensation shouldn't near as shouldn't be anywhere near as much as it is at the moment. and there a slight disconnect in there is a slight disconnect in that if you spent, as we have donein that if you spent, as we have done in more recent times, about £30 on a flight and then you get £350 in compensation, what that's going to have to come from and that will from somewhere and that will probably with all of probably end up with just all of the flight prices for all of us going up. >> lisa, did planes leave >> lisa, did planes ever leave on now? so recently i was on time now? so recently i was on time now? so recently i was on plane to nice. we got on 40 on a plane to nice. we got on 40 minutes late and it was a two hour flight. according to the guide. yet the pilot guide. and yet the pilot announced it's hour and announced it's an hour and a half flight to nice. do they do this deliberately now because they flights take off on they know no flights take off on time? they changed the amount of time? they changed the amount of time that's required . time that's required. >> yeah, i mean, it is built into any flight that there will be that sort of clarity that you can get a little bit of that. i say myself, yes, you're right. i have not taken a flight so far this year that has left on time. every single flight taken every single flight i've taken from has been delayed, from the uk has been delayed, and that's why action does and that's why this action does need mean, if you

need to be taken. i mean, if you are delayed, rights are delayed, what your rights are delayed, what your rights are specific. you know, are quite specific. you know, you to drinks and you are entitled to drinks and meals if it's a delay that takes overnight, then you are entitled to hotel accommodation and very often that doesn't happen and people having basically left people are having basically left to devices . so that's to their own devices. so that's what this campaign is all about, is about making sure that airlines do do everything they should sure the customer should to make sure the customer is completely looked after. >> okay, thank you. lisa millar from the sun. >> and got some breaking . >> and we've got some breaking. news that's right. the prosecutors just told the court, the former nurse , lucy letby, the former nurse, lucy letby, has refused to come into the witness into the witness box course. she has more than a dozen relatives of lexie's victims sat in the public gallery for the hearing at manchester crown court. eight jurors returned to see the sentencing. >> that's right. if you're just tuning in, so lucy letby has said not in court to said she will not be in court to hear the sentencing. >> absolutely disgrace. >> absolutely disgrace. >> i think the vast majority of you agree with andrew. very much so, that she be made to so, that she should be made to be under any circum be there under any circum stances her drag her full

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represent real londoners. the image shows two children. the walking along by the thames and in response, the mayor's spokesperson said the photo caption was added by a staff member in error. it doesn't reflect the view of the mayor of greater london authority. well the dock is now being taken off the dock is now being taken off the greater london website and is being reviewed to ensure the language and guidance is appropriate. >> to say my parents were >> i have to say my parents were londoners then, not with now londoners then, not with us now . they couldn't have been more london white cockney , east end london white cockney, east end working class decent. why have we got? can't you be a proper , we got? can't you be a proper, appropriate londoner if you're white? >> well, let's speak to social policy analyst dr. ricky essen. now good morning, ricky . good to now good morning, ricky. good to see you. what do you think has happened here with this image? just to be clear, it's obviously gone on to the website, but it's clearly a work in progress. and somebody put notes on it to say this isn't a real it doesn't represent london is that okay that some marketing notes that that's some marketing notes come it's not okay at all.

come back it's not okay at all. >> but it's plain racism . it's >> but it's plain racism. it's as simple as that. i think what you're seeing here, by the way, would make the point that london is still a majority white city. the last census showed that 53.8% of london is white, that this was actually a really nice image, a very family oriented image. and then for it to be accompanied with this this phrase doesn't represent real londoners. what you're seeing there is that the white londoners are being deprived of their local pride in their own city and their status as a member of london on the grounds of them being white. if that's not racist, i don't know what it is. and we're talking about families who may well have their family history in london for generations. if not centuries. imagine if that we turn the tables here. >> and it was for it was a black black parents with a black children and the image had been scrawled. this is not an image, a proper image of london. the

real sadiq khan would have been facing calls to resign . but facing calls to resign. but because it's white, that's okay. >> well, what i've talked about and this is what i talked about in my book that was recently published beyond grievance , published beyond grievance, there's almost a there's almost been a normalisation anti—white normalisation of anti —white bigotry normalisation of anti—white bigotry elements of the left. bigotry on elements of the left. andrew and i think that there's so—called anti—racists who simply don't talk about it enough they don't do enough enough and they don't do enough to challenge it. and i think that what you're saying, if people say, well, it was a mistake by junior staffer, the mistake by a junior staffer, the fact that this kind of thinking might city hall, that fact that this kind of thinking might that city hall, that fact that this kind of thinking might that shouldhall, that fact that this kind of thinking might that should worry hat fact that this kind of thinking might that should worry us all, should that should worry us all, to andrew isn't isn't to be honest. andrew isn't isn't the whoever wrote the worry that whoever wrote this thought reflecting this thought he was reflecting the his political the view of his political master, the mayor of london, sadiq khan ? well, if you felt sadiq khan? well, if you felt that your place of work wouldn't accept this line of thinking, then you wouldn't do it to begin with, would you? and i think that's that's the real worry here. and i think that it's incredibly alienating the mayor of london, in my view, andrew, all too often he's been racially

divisive. he's used public celebration , including the new celebration, including the new year's eve fireworks , to promote year's eve fireworks, to promote the black lives matter movement. more recently , he's linked his more recently, he's linked his ulez scheme, which took a hammering in the uxbridge and south by—election he linked up with far right activism . i think with far right activism. i think that the mayor of london considering it's such a diverse city and i think this is the point that i'd make that when point that i'd make is that when you this sort modern you see this sort of modern diversity politics too all often it's actually deeply exclusionary comes to exclusionary when it comes to the mainstream. the white british mainstream. >> mean, if we look at >> yeah, i mean, if we look at the statistics about the actual statistics about london as a whole , the london as a whole, the percentage of people who live in london who are white . british is london who are white. british is 36.8% white skinned as a whole, 53, nearly . 54% asian, black, 53, nearly. 54% asian, black, british, mixed other 47. so does he have a point when he says because all the time, listen, this is the thing about sadiq khan. all the time he's promoting himself and he's

trying to get votes. that's what drives him all the time, more than almost any other politician. i mean, you might say, well, stop the press. that's what politicians do. but there's something about him, particularly puts particularly that he puts himself centre every himself at the centre of every little piece marketing paid little piece of marketing paid for taxpayer. it does for by the taxpayer. and it does tell quite a lot about what tell us quite a lot about what he aiming to do who is he is aiming to do and who is appealing to. doesn't it ? appealing to. doesn't it? >> absolutely. i'd make the point that just because london has experienced significant demographic in recent demographic change in recent years doesn't that years, it doesn't mean that white people living in london or a not londoners . a sudden not real londoners. they often they belong to they quite often they belong to families that have been in london for generations. and yes , the 37% of london is white british. that's still over1 in 3 people in london. i think that we need to get away from the toxic racial identity politics, which suggests that if you belong to a particular racial group, you're all of a sudden your authenticity a londoner your authenticity as a londoner should and should be questioned. and i don't think that's right at all. >> and if you talk to a cabinet minister days, or tory mps minister these days, or tory mps , they'll all tell you the same

thing. london is lost because they it no longer a white they say it is no longer a white city. they're talking privately when they say this. it has become it's we know it's multiracial, but it's an ethnic melting pot. and they would point they would say this is cynical sadiq khan, because he's appealing for votes from black and ethnic voters who he assumes will vote for him rather than for a white tory candidate, which is what the tories have chosen for the mayoral campaign next year. well i think what i'd say back is that the conservatives haven't taken london seriously for some time, andrew, and i think in the andrew, and i think that in the last election i think last mayoral election i think that if they'd actually backed their candidate and believed in him, which is shaun bailey, i think could run think that they could have run sadiq khan a lot closer if truth be told. >> and i think that this view that just because the city has experienced significant demographic the demographic change, that the proportioncity or has particular city or town has become more asian or black , i become more asian or black, i think you'll find some of the most authentically conservative values and attitudes are in those minority

those ethnic minority communities. so i think that the conservative should take london more if you look at conservative should take london more most if you look at conservative should take london more most recent,you look at conservative should take london more most recent, the look at conservative should take london more most recent, the most at their most recent, the most impressive local election results in recent times, they're coming in places like harrow, if you're with harrow, the you're familiar with harrow, the majority people there aren't majority of people there aren't white either. so i think that the conservatives need look the conservatives need to look at differently terms at london differently in terms of actually more of actually being more optimistic about electoral optimistic about the electoral chances think one chances there. but i think one thing should see from thing that we should see from the conservative party, especially is especially leading figures, is that fiercely that they should fiercely condemn what's been what's happened here, because i think this is a thoroughly disgraceful incident, is incident, which in my view, is racist. okay >> very much, dr. >> thank you very much, dr. recce . recce. >> well said and well said >> and well said and well said to him, because i agree with him. it is racist. and you can't imagine what the fuss would be if family and if that was a black family and someone said, oh, they're not representative. yeah but it's all it's all about the esg. >> it's all about diversity. it's all about they'll have the they have to boxes. but they have to tick the boxes. but anyway, breaking news, news. >> prime minister sunak >> prime minister rishi sunak says, >> prime minister rishi sunak says commit such horrendous who commit such horrendous crimes don't face their victim. this is after the sarah murder.

lucy letby exercised her right. it has to be said not to pay for the sentencing hearing. we're going to bring you that sunak interview shortly. and why hasn't at all then, hasn't he changed at all then, if thinks so bad, get on if he thinks it's so bad, get on with it, prime minister. let's see been saying morning. >> you've been responding to the siddiq row. jackie has siddiq khan race row. jackie has said said about said what khan has said about the of the white the picture of the white families racism. he should be removed from office immediately and prosecuted. good and prosecuted. well, good luck with morning and prosecuted. well, good luck with vine morning and prosecuted. well, good luck with vine and morning and prosecuted. well, good luck with vine and bushrag with sarah vine and bushra shaikh this. now, though, shaikh on this. now, though, your news with . tamsin your morning's news with. tamsin >> beth, thanks very much. here are the headlines at 1033. lucy letby is refusing to appear in court today as her sentencing begins . the 33 year old former begins. the 33 year old former nurse was found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six more at the countess of chester hospital . manchester crown court is heanng . manchester crown court is hearing personal statements from some of the parents of those killed or injured outlining the

impact letby has had on them. she committed the crimes whilst working on the neonatal unit at the hospital between 2015 and 16. children and families minister claire coutinho says the government is looking at changing the law to force criminals to be present for sentencing . sentencing. >> i think it's appalling. i think she should be there and i know that the justice secretary has said he's very committed to making changes that he needs to make sure that people who have committed awful crimes have to go to court so they can hear things like the victims impact statement, which is really their moment to tell that person how this has impacted them. there is a commitment across government to sure that people who to making sure that people who have committed crimes are facing the reality of that so that they can hear these things and my understanding that does mean that a change of the law is needed. >> a 50 year old man will appear in court later following the major police data breach in northern ireland. he's been charged with possessing documents to be useful to

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news. the people's channel. britain's news . news. the people's channel. britain's news. channel >> it's 1040 with britain's newsroom here on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> we are delighted to be joined now by political commentator bushra sheikh and daily mail columnist vine . join columnist sarah vine. join colleague now lucy letby has been described as sarah. you've written a couple of brilliant pieces about this. thank you . pieces about this. thank you. just tell us your take on it. having looked into it in such detail, what do you make of her? >> i think she's just i don't know. i just think she's the devil in disguise, isn't she? it's just i the thing it's just i think the thing about that it's her sort about her is that it's her sort of banality in her ordinary , you of banality in her ordinary, you know, girl next door demeanour. and it just reminds you that kind doesn't necessarily kind of evil doesn't necessarily have horns. and red eyes. it can come in all shapes and form. and i think the worst thing about

this case is for the parents who have already had to grieve the loss of a baby , and then they loss of a baby, and then they have to grieve the loss of a baby again, knowing that that baby again, knowing that that baby was murdered and i think thatis baby was murdered and i think that is just beyond evil. i can't i can't really get our head around it. i just think it's her banality that really stuns, isn't it, in your column, which was brilliant, sarah, where you said, actually, what she deserves is be to death. >> yeah, like me. >> yeah, like me. >> i'm not. i'm not affected. >> i'm not. i'm not affected. >> yeah, likewise, you said. but we know why she did it. we need to know why she did it. >> yeah, absolutely. i think. i think that's thing. i mean, think that's the thing. i mean, i think the fact that she won't face her victims parents and she won't come to court to hear her verdict, i think she should be made those things. and made to do those things. and i also think that we need to know there to be i mean, if i there needs to be i mean, if i were one those parents, i'd were one of those parents, i'd want know why. did you do want to know why. why did you do this? could have compelled this? what could have compelled to i don't understand to her do it? i don't understand that, because the thing is often with these cases, there's always some sort of some sort of trauma in their back story or there's

something terrible happened to them become like them and they've become like that. there's nothing that. but there's nothing there's sort there's nothing. she's the sort of had most sort of of she had the most sort of straightforward upbringing . you straightforward upbringing. you know, there's no trauma , there's know, there's no trauma, there's no alcohol, there's no drugs . no alcohol, there's no drugs. there's parents, there's no there's reason for it. and there's no reason for it. and that's why it's so it's that's why i think it's so it's so sinister. >> just going to bring >> we're just going to bring some breaking news for you, rishi speaking . rishi sunak has been speaking. let's hear what he had to say . let's hear what he had to say. as the high quality , affordable childcare. >> that's why the government's expanding its offer of free childcare, currently working families can access 30 hours of free childcare for three and four year olds as part of our big reforms were extending that all the way down to little ones as young as nine months. so that's to going be hugely helpful for families and we're rolling out over next rolling that out over the next yeah rolling that out over the next year. want to make year. but also we want to make sure we have more sure that we have more childminders number childminders. the number of childminders. the number of childminders declined by childminders has declined by half the past several half over the past several years. reverse that

years. we want to reverse that trend. making it easier trend. so we're making it easier for people to become childminder is easier for them to is making it easier for them to register and making it more likely that housing providers, landlords are supportive of people becoming childminders in those properties as well. so put all of that together means high quality, affordable childcare for more families. >> okay, lucy , let be affected. >> okay, lucy, let be affected. a lot of people. has the government been too slow to change which would have change the law, which would have forced be in dock and forced her to be in the dock and should at least she have to watch the broadcast of it from her cell? >> i think first thing is to >> i think the first thing is to extend my sympathies everyone extend my sympathies to everyone affected i think like affected by this. i think like everyone you know, reading about this is just shocking and harrowing now, i think it's cowardly that people who commit such horrendous crimes do not face their victims and hear firsthand the impact that their crimes have had on them and their families and loved ones. and we are looking and have been at changing the law to make sure that that happens . and that's that that happens. and that's something that we'll bring forward in due course. >> hospital managers be

>> should hospital managers be as doctors and nurses? >> well, we're setting up an inquiry that will into inquiry that will look into everything that happened in this case. and it's important that that that inquiry, and that that inquiry, first and foremost, gets the answers that families need. insurers that we can learn the lessons from what happened conducted happened is conducted transparently and happens as quickly possible . so that's quickly as possible. so that's the inquiry that will up and the inquiry that will set up and make that we deliver on make sure that we deliver on those objectives. >> the inquiry, should >> on the inquiry, should we have judge statutory have a judge led statutory inquiry ? inquiry? >> think the important >> well, i think the important thing the inquiry do is thing for the inquiry to do is make that families get the make sure that families get the answers that they need, that it is possible for us to learn the lessons from what happened, everything conducted transparently and to happen as quickly as possible. >> those the objectives that >> those are the objectives that we for the inquiry we want for the inquiry and we'll that it's set up we'll make sure that it's set up to on those aims. to deliver on those aims. >> okay, now shouldn't >> okay, sport. now shouldn't you out in the world you have been out in the world cup final? >> you know, like many, many others, the game in the others, i watch the game in the pub locally in northallerton at home. you i'd like nothing home. you know, i'd like nothing more to be watch more than to be able to watch england play around the world. i

love sport, love football, i love sport, i love football, i love sport, i love cheering on england. sadly, i to go to the world i wasn't able to go to the world cup qatar last year. i wasn't cup in qatar last year. i wasn't able to go to this final, but i said i'd enjoyed watching it in the with friends and the pub with friends and constituents the pub with friends and consi tuents the pub with friends and consi think; all be and i think we're all be incredibly what the incredibly proud about what the lionesses achieved and what lionesses have achieved and what rishi sunak sitting on the fence as usual. >> yes, you should have been at the football. prime minister will the question for you will answer the question for you and should taken that and you should have taken that useless william. useless prince william. >> the fact that >> did you like the fact that also the comparison, also we drew the comparison, though, men's world cup also we drew the comparison, thou he men's world cup also we drew the comparison, thou he couldn't men's world cup also we drew the comparison, thou he couldn't beat,s world cup also we drew the comparison, thou he couldn't beat, butyrld cup that he couldn't beat, but britain weren't in the men's world were they? world cup final, were they? >> final, dear time >> in the final, dear first time we've been in a world cup final since 19, i have to say, i think prince william rarely puts a foot wrong. prince william rarely puts a foolwrong. prince william rarely puts a fool think. prince william rarely puts a fool think it was really wrong >> i think it was really wrong of to go because the of him not to go because the spanish had their queen there and done. was and she was done. she was looking fabulous. and looking fabulous. fabulous. and it was like all the papers how suburban nil suburban one has the windsor nil and yeah we've got we've got a we've got a republican australian prime minister now. >> would have been changed. >> but you this is the >> but you see, this is the thing. everyone always oh,

thing. everyone always says, oh, you the point of you know, what is the point of the royal that is the the royal family that is the point of royal family. you point of the royal family. you know, they should have been there support the lionesses know, they should have been thereyou;upport the lionesses know, they should have been thereyou;upporwho lionesses know, they should have been thereyou;upporwho knows? as know, they should have been thereyou;upporwho knows? it know, they should have been thereyhaveiporwho knows? it know, they should have been therey have made 10 knows? it know, they should have been therey have made a knows? it know, they should have been therey have made a difference might have made a difference to how they played. i mean, it certainly seemed to make the spanish his spanish girls he used his daughter human shield and daughter as a human shield and a sort of 15 social media sort of 15 seconds social media message. yeah. >> what do think, bushra? oh >> what do you think, bushra? oh i think didn't the game. i think i didn't watch the game. >> not a big fan of football >> i'm not a big fan of football anyway, when comes anyway, but when it comes to prince william, have prince william, he should have been there. it's about representation in his great britain. was the he's britain. and it was the he's also of the fa. britain. and it was the he's als> but they're very happy to pay dylan trans dylan mulvany, who was a trans tiktok a fortune to tiktok influencer, a fortune to advertise sports bras. advertise ladies sports bras. yeah, the madness of the yeah, that is the madness of the world that now in. world that we now live in. that's also because i think people honest people aren't always honest about women's football. >> popular it >> it's not as popular as it should let's say just yet. should be. let's say just yet. and i think that's this and i think that's why this is hesitancy sponsorship hesitancy with sponsorship perhaps hesitancy with sponsorship peri asys hesitancy with sponsorship perias popular. not as popular. >> you won't sell as many >> well, you won't sell as many shirts, there isn't much

shirts, so there isn't as much profit in it. but the cause yesterday, for yesterday, as sarah says for mary sweary, mary she's mary sweary, mary as she's known, reading, known, if you were lip reading, she said, you know, they need to all mary queen of stops. yeah >> mary queen of stops. yeah that's headline. that's a great headline. >> that penalty >> i mean, saving that penalty was . yes, it was. it was brilliant. >> it was absolute brilliant. and now from yesterday, there and so now from yesterday, there were calls then social media were calls then on social media to doing replicas of that to start doing replicas of that shirt so that people can dress their daughters that . would their daughters in that. would you dress your son in it as well? >> isn't she the hair of the tournament? >> my son will wear any football shirt. he loves football shirts. would he wear one? >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, he fancies them all, obviously. >> yeah. because he's 18. >> yeah. because he's18. >> yeah. because he's18. >> yeah. because he's18. >> yeah . and they are all >> yeah. and they are all absolutely they are. absolutely beautiful. they are. >> they are clever and they're interesting. i got into interesting. and even i got into it. not enough watch the it. not enough to watch the entire what's called alessia russo . russo. >> right. >> right. >> scored a goal. she's very >> she scored a goal. she's very pretty. yeah. to be honest, pretty. yeah. but to be honest, they didn't to win. they didn't deserve to win. >> did . they. they. in >> no, they did. they. they. in spain, all over them. i'm afraid they spanish. they really were spanish. >> . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and every time i looked up from spain had the ball. >> i e'n- e’n- y u think i mean, i've >> so i did think i mean, i've forgotten her name, really. but

the got in the the girl who got kicked in the head, i mean, they are they are very, tenacious, those very, very tenacious, those girls. up, they girls. i mean, to get up, they don't do any of that rolling around no around clutching their no clutching, their pearls. >> alex greenwood alex greenwood was the one who got guys in the head. >> i know has the bandage around her. but we mustn't. we must talk letby still. so this talk about letby still. so this wretched woman didn't go into the witness. didn't into the witness. it didn't go into court. saying it's court. i was saying it's disagreed me. i would have disagreed with me. i would have changed her if necessary. gagged her if necessary, rather like what's his name? silence of the lambs , you mean? and plonked him lambs, you mean? and plonked him in there, puncturing so she in there, puncturing this so she could witness could hear the witness statements another. statements one after another. then the judge had to then hear what the judge had to say. we would her face say. then we would see her face when she gets well. >> i think they're talking. they're talking about broadcasting her cell, broadcasting it into her cell, which sensible broadcasting it into her cell, whichto sensible broadcasting it into her cell, whichto do. sensible thing to do. >> yeah, better nothing. >> yeah, well, better nothing. but said she just but someone else said she just put her hands in her ears. >> you think that >> it's awful. you think that people her. an people like her. she's an absolute monster and they need to that to drag her to that court kicking screaming . kicking and screaming. >> do you think so? >> do you think so? >> think someone buries.

>> i think someone buries. >> i think someone buries. >> you're in a minority. she should have zero remorse. >> she's got no right. like. yeah, she has no right. i agree. i agree. none whatsoever. and yeah, she has no right. i agree. i agnot none whatsoever. and yeah, she has no right. i agree. i agnot fair1e whatsoever. and yeah, she has no right. i agree. i agnot fair that1atsoever. and yeah, she has no right. i agree. i agnot fair that the )ever. and yeah, she has no right. i agree. i agnot fair that the families d it's not fair that the families of these victims don't get to also see that she has to sit there and listen and endure all there and listen and endure all the pain that she has caused all these people . she does not get these people. she does not get to get away from. >> i mean, i think probably not. i suspect not all the families would want to actually see her, because think it was me, because i think if it was me, i'd never want to i'd just never want to be tortured again. >> thing is, talk >> but the thing is, talk to a lawyer, represented two families and he they wanted do. lawyer, represented two families ancsoe they wanted do. lawyer, represented two families ancso i they wanted do. lawyer, represented two families ancso i thinkiey wanted do. lawyer, represented two families ancso i thinkiey wando, do. lawyer, represented two families ancso i thinkiey wando, they do. >> so i think if they do, they should be. obviously they should have. but i think about have. but i think it's about where should where the focus should be. >> quite put my >> and i can't quite put my finger on why uncomfortable finger on why i'm uncomfortable with a very with it because i have a very strong opinion law and strong opinion about law and order. but i think strong opinion about law and ord

attention on her, as probably does. >> but i also think it's interesting that we sort of was talking about the inquiry. i i have i do have some sympathy for the hospital managers who did fail spot her because who fail to spot her because who would think because she was missing was doing missing someone was doing something i mean, who something like that? i mean, who would think it's would think that? it's just unthinkable . yeah, but so you're unthinkable. yeah, but so you're just like you just you just because such unfair because it's such an unfair thing to do. i can understand why it took longer than it should have done for them to clock that she was actually doing this because it's such an incredibly strange thing to do. >> if there's of >> if there's a whiff of something like that happening at the you take the hospital, you have to take it seriously because people don't those don't usually make those allegations based nothing. allegations based off nothing. >> one of the managers who >> and one of the managers who made allegations is, in fact, forced down mediation. forced to sit down to mediation. >> one of the because consultants. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> but i think that's the thing about is that she's a very about her is that she's a very skilled manipulator. that's what i about, intelligence i talk about, the intelligence of was very good at, of evil. she was very good at, you know, she knew exactly which buttons press get what she buttons to press to get what she needed , she and so

needed, and she did. and so these people were as these people were victims as well. duped by this well. they were duped by this monster. were upset. and monster. they were upset. and they be absolutely in bits they must be absolutely in bits . yeah. so knowing that they failed to stop her because seven children died, six more assaulted, attacked , and god assaulted, attacked, and god knows how many more . yeah, exactly. >> but you see, if you think abouti >> but you see, if you think about i keep trying to draw because it's so difficult to understand this case. as you say, psychologically, it's a very interesting how this woman who apparently blue very interesting how this woman who ayouently blue very interesting how this woman who ayou know, blue very interesting how this woman who ayou know, top blue very interesting how this woman who ayou know, top of blue very interesting how this woman who ayou know, top of the e very interesting how this woman who ayou know, top of the class eyed, you know, top of the class girl from a good home, was able to do this sort of thing. she just looks the image of goodness doesn't she? but you think if it was a maternity ward, if it was a midwife who kept losing babies, what would they have done? somebody would have surely said, we need to keep an eye on her, not because she's she's deliberately losing these babies, but because she might not be very good at her job. >> and that's what i was asking the lawyers for. >> they that. >> and they missed that. >> and they missed that. >> hospitals very alive to >> hospitals are very alive to the incompetence or the prospect of incompetence or malpractice. but they're not evil. they're not looking for

the devil in the maternity. >> i would i would really like this outcome to be if we get a psychoanalyst to psychoanalyse her or whether they've done that already, to really get into her mind because if we know how these people operate in work, it would help if various people have munchausen. have said she has munchausen. >> we know the >> yeah, but we know from the questioning from police questioning from the police there no there was absolutely no contrition, no compassion matching. matter matching. she was utterly matter of , they could have been of fact, they could have been talking about turning up late for shift. yeah and for a nursing shift. yeah and i suspect she's still in total denial . we won't know she's denial. we won't know she's going to be in solitary confinement, i hope. bushra she never gets a decent night's sleep for the rest of her life. ihope sleep for the rest of her life. i hope she's always looking over her shoulder. absolutely >> andrew. >> andrew. >> i'm not inciting violence, but i not have decent but i want to not have a decent night's ever again. night's sleep ever again. >> she'll be on suicide watch for, know , in america that for, you know, in america that goes , much longer. yes. goes well, much longer. yes. well i think epstein. epstein yeah , yeah, yeah. the viewers yeah, yeah, yeah. the viewers have been getting in touch at home saying if murderers and serious criminals serious criminal criminals refuse appear in court, take refuse to appear in court, take away visiting rights .

away their visiting rights. quite visitors for quite right. no visitors for the term their sentence. term of their sentence. there has be other sort of has to be some other sort of penalty, doesn't it, sarah, that you these you can add on for these prisoners tell them if prisoners to get to tell them if you go in court, this you don't go in court, this will be penalty? in her case. >> i mean, i don't know because i can't imagine i mean , you i can't imagine i mean, you know, the idea that she's going to go and sort of sit in a sort of nice prison cell for the rest of nice prison cell for the rest of her life and be fed by the taxpayer and looked after sort of annoys me. i don't you know, i think she should but i think she should be. but that's me. that's not that's not for me. that's not sufficient to punishment for what has she slip what she has done. she may slip on of soap, which is why on a bar of soap, which is why it's even, you know, this is why the having it's even, you know, this is why the death having it's even, you know, this is why the death penalty having it's even, you know, this is why the death penalty country.|aving the death penalty country. >> i haven't heard that conversation a long time. conversation for a long time. >> thing about the >> so is that thing about the death penalty, though, is that >> so is that thing about the deafthinklalty, though, is that >> so is that thing about the deafthink of y, though, is that >> so is that thing about the deafthink of thatough, is that >> so is that thing about the deafthink of that gentleman|t you think of that gentleman whose again forget whose name i again forget because obviously been on because i obviously i've been on houday because i obviously i've been on holiday is who was holiday for two weeks is who was put who was who was sentenced to 17 for a rape. just did 17 years for a rape. just did not commit. there are issues not commit. so there are issues , miscarriages of justice, miscarriages do happen. people do things wrong . do get things wrong. >> this jury was out for a very

long. >> they were. they were. and i'm not suggesting that the verdict is not correct, what i'm is not correct, but what i'm saying when think is not correct, but what i'm sayingthe when think is not correct, but what i'm sayingthe death�*nen think is not correct, but what i'm sayingthe death penalty,think is not correct, but what i'm sayingthe death penalty, you: about the death penalty, you have to think about that. >> you get it wrong and you >> you can get it wrong and you can't bring them no. >> you can get it wrong and you can right; them no. >> you can get it wrong and you can right. we'rel no. >> you can get it wrong and you canright. we're going no. >> you can get it wrong and you canright. we're going nybe >> right. we're going to be getting reaction from westminster we're westminster on lucy letby. we're gb the temperatures are rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news alex deakin weather on. gb news alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. >> pretty warm and sunny across much of the south today. the breeze picking up further north where there is a bit more cloud. we've got some wet weather across northwest scotland from this and across northwest scotland from this weather and across northwest scotland from this weather fronts, and across northwest scotland from this weather fronts, highd this weather fronts, but high pressure dominating across the south. it allowed a bit of mist and fog first thing and still a fair cloud around some fair bit of cloud around in some areas turning areas. but generally turning sunny across the midlands, sunny now across the midlands, eastern southern england. eastern and southern england. a few scattered showers over centre and southern scotland, but more persistent rain as the winds pick up across the highlands and the western isles of scotland . and temperatures of scotland. and temperatures here high teens. but head

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gb news. >> good morning . it's 11 gb news. >> good morning. it's 11 am. on monday, 21st of august. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> thanks for finding us this morning. now prime minister rishi sunak said it is rishi sunak has said it is cowardly who commit cowardly that people who commit such horrendous do not such horrendous crimes do not face their victims . a serial face their victims. a serial child murderer, lucy letby, refuses to appear for her

sentencing in court to the end. >> the prime minister has also said the government will set up whatever inquiry is necessary to find out the truth. victims statements are being read out to the court as we speak. we're going to bring you all the details . details. >> push over britain. one and two of us think that the uk is taken advantage of by other countries with just a quarter thinking that britain gets a good deal from other nations . do good deal from other nations. do you think we need to toughen up on the world stage . on the world stage. if the prime minister is going to set up an inquiry, whatever it takes, you should set up a judge led inquiry, a statutory inquiry, which means everybody is required to evidence, is required to give evidence, has to go, including those nhs managers in the letby case. well, let us know what you think. email us gb views at gb news. first of all, though, his tamsin roberts with the latest .

news >> bev, thanks very much . good >> bev, thanks very much. good morning from the newsroom. it's 11:01. the prime minister has described lucy letby as cowardly for refusing to appear in court today for her sentencing. manchester crown court is heanng manchester crown court is hearing personal statements from some of the parents of babies killed or injured outlining the impact letby has had on them. the 33 year old former nurse was found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six more at the countess of chester hospital . speaking chester hospital. speaking a short time ago, the prime minister said the inquiry into levy's crimes should happen as quickly as possible . quickly as possible. >> i think it's cowardly that people who commit such horrendous crimes do not face their victims and hear first hand the impact that their crimes have had on them and their families and loved ones . their families and loved ones. well, i think the important thing inquiry do thing for the inquiry to do is make that families get the make sure that families get the answers that they need that it

is possible for to us learn the lessons from what happened . lessons from what happened. everything conducted transparently and to happen as quickly as possible . those are quickly as possible. those are the objectives that for the objectives that we want for the objectives that we want for the inquiry and will make sure that set up to deliver on that it's set up to deliver on those aims. >> well, prisons minister >> well, shadow prisons minister elly reeves says the government has to change the law has had time to change the law to force criminals to appear in court for sentencing . court for sentencing. >> there's a number of things that the government could have done for example, giving the judge powers to increase sentencing where someone fails to turn up for the hearing. you could also look at things like prison privileges, for example. and there's also been this suggestion that where a defendant refuses to attend court proceedings could be live streamed into their cells. the reality is, is that the government have had months and months to deal with this issue. they've failed to act, and that's going to result in cowardly. lucy letby not attending court today.

>> two other news now. a 50 year old man will appear in court later following the major police data breach in northern ireland. he's been charged with possessing documents likely to be useful to terrorists . it's be useful to terrorists. it's after the details of 10,000 officers and staff are published onune officers and staff are published online by mistake . the leak online by mistake. the leak contains a surname and initials of every employee. their rank where they're based, and the unit they work in. police believe the information is now in the hands of dissident republicans . the government is republicans. the government is calling on housing association, social landlords and developers to review tenancy contracts to help childminders work from home. many living in rented accommodation are prevented from using their homes for business purposes. the department for education says too often prospective childminders are having the door slammed in their face. the government is also bringing in measures to encourage more people to care for school. aged children include ending a £1,200 start up

. grant from today, londoners are eligible for a cash grant of up to £2,000 for cars that don't comply with ulez policies . the comply with ulez policies. the mayor of london scrappage scheme will cost around £110 million. it begins today ahead of the expanded ultra low emission zone, which will cover all london boroughs from the 29th of august. but the policy faces opposition in other parts of government, with the council leader in hertfordshire refusing to erect signs warning drivers of the new low emission zone. conservative london assembly member neil garrett says sadiq khan new ulez requirements are happening too quickly . happening too quickly. >> he's really rushed this through. he only announced in november last year that he was going to do this so people have had less than a year at a time of real financial pressure potentially to try to replace their car . potentially to try to replace their car. and we're seeing their car. and now we're seeing this that benefits this evidence that the benefits that for the ulez that are touted for the ulez expansion are either very small or, know , there's question or, you know, there's question marks evidence behind marks about the evidence behind them. i the whole policy them. i think the whole policy is really needs a rethink

is really needs, needs a rethink . is this the best way to clean up air and have people up london's air and have people been given enough time get been given enough time to get ready they ready for it? i don't think they have england captain. have a england captain. >> millie bright says the team will definitely bounce back from their world cup final loss to spain . the skipper says she's spain. the skipper says she's proud of the girls and it proud of the girls and that it isn't the end of the journey. proud of the girls and that it isn'tlionesses)f the journey. proud of the girls and that it isn'tlionesses are re journey. proud of the girls and that it isn'tlionesses are now jrney. proud of the girls and that it isn'tlionesses are now travelling the lionesses are now travelling back from australia . both labour back from australia. both labour leader keir starmer and lib leader sir keir starmer and lib dems davey have called them to be given honours . and today be given honours. and today britain's oldest person gets a year older. ethel mae katrin from hampshire is celebrating . from hampshire is celebrating. her 114th birthday. the super centenarian was born in 1909, very happy birthday to you, ethel. have a lovely day this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying, play gb news now it's back to andrew and . bev

andrew and. bev >> happy birthday to that lady who is 114 years old today, by the way . the way. >> by the way, i do not want to live that long. i know a lot of people rejoice to say we don't need to live much longer anyway, but 114, that's incredible . but 114, that's incredible. >> i would happily live to 114. do you know they might still me here talk . well, hug my kids. here talk. well, hug my kids. you get a telegram from the king at 100. >> make sure you get 110. should get another one because it's quite an achievement . quite an achievement. >> i presume you must guess something. think you something. i'd like to think you get year once you're something. i'd like to think you get don't year once you're something. i'd like to think you get don't you? year once you're something. i'd like to think you get don't you? from)nce you're something. i'd like to think you get don't you? from)nce queen. 100, don't you? from the queen. you go round for tea you should be. go round for tea by time 114. the king. >> now we've been talking about lucy letby because she exercised >> now we've been talking about lucjright,/ because she exercised >> now we've been talking about lucy right, which jse she exercised >> now we've been talking about lucjright, which is; she exercised >> now we've been talking about lucjright, which is an|e exercised >> now we've been talking about lucjright, which is an outrage;ed her right, which is an outrage not appear court to not to appear in court and to face victims families as the face the victims families as the victims statements are being face the victims families as the victirout. atements are being face the victims families as the victirout. this|ents are being face the victims families as the victirout. this morning,3eing face the victims families as the victirout. this morning,3ecan read out. this morning, i can tell are very, very tell you they are very, very moving and emotional. >> harrowing . they're >> yeah, harrowing. they're really harrowing. the baby killer course, is predicted killer of course, is predicted to handed a full life term to be handed a full life term this . in a statement

this afternoon. in a statement in the last few moments, the mother of child a who was murdered letby child b , murdered by letby and child b, who she attempted to kill , said who she attempted to kill, said you thought it was your right to play you thought it was your right to play god with our children's lives. little did we know you were waiting for us to leave so you attack the thing were waiting for us to leave so you gave attack the thing were waiting for us to leave so you gave us:ack the thing were waiting for us to leave so you gave us a:k the thing were waiting for us to leave so you gave us a reason thing were waiting for us to leave so you gave us a reason to thing were waiting for us to leave so you gave us a reason to carryi that gave us a reason to carry on in life. maybe you thought that you would be that by doing this, you would be remembered but i want remembered forever. but i want you know that family will you to know that my family will never think of again. from never think of you again. from this day , you are nothing. that this day, you are nothing. that was . actually. that's right. >> and this is why that woman should be in court. is now should be in court. who is now more strong stuff here. the mother child d because all mother of child d because all the children have an the all the children have an enmity has also spoken to the court in just the last couple of minutes. said letby had minutes. and said lucy letby had a chance to say something to us all. parent of the victims, she had one word unimaginable had only one word unimaginable for her wicked sense of entitlement and abuse, of her role as a trusted nurse . it's role as a trusted nurse. it's a scandal. lucy letby you failed god and the plans he had. you even called it fate . you were even called it fate. you were clearly disconnected with god .

clearly disconnected with god. >> must be incredibly difficult. atmosphere in there today. we've got sophie reaper in manchester and we'll be talking and there's going to be a lot more witness statements of course, letby statements and of course, letby is in the cells below , is skulking in the cells below, refusing to be either there for the witness statements or the sentence by the judge. >> and we hope the judge gives her full life sentence and i her a full life sentence and i hope miserable. hope her life is miserable. >> political editor , >> well, our political editor, christopher hope, is in westminster now. good westminster for us now. good morning, chris. good to see you. of course . rishi sunak has been of course. rishi sunak has been talking this morning and he said that she is a coward for not being there, that they are looking at changing the law, that he needs an inquiry into what but it feels very what happened. but it feels very much like rishi sunak just sitting on the fence again with these issues that the public feel really strongly about. yeah well, he's finding his voice again as he as he you know, you're interviewing prime minister. >> he's seeing how things to put the government on the side of the government on the side of the of the patients or the

victims of lucy letby. the shocking thing, of course, is that those testaments there from the victims will not be heard by letby unless she them in letby unless she reads them in newspapers or follows the coverage online or on gb news website. she won't know about it. what so it. and that's what is so completely shocking. think the completely shocking. i think the government's very aware of that. they're us this government's very aware of that. they're it's us this government's very aware of that. they're it's likely|s this government's very aware of that. they're it's likely that s government's very aware of that. they're it's likely that in the morning it's likely that in the king's when king's speech when the government for government sets out its plan for laws going to the next election, next year, they will try and legislate to force people to criminals to listen to their sentencing and therefore listen to those victim impact statements that you read out so movingly. there bev and andrew but whether that's enough or wait and see, i think i do think this the lucy letby scandal, frankly , is going to be frankly, is going to be a watershed wake up call for the nhs. they can't just always disregard concerns by doctors and consultants and nurses when you have this person doing what she did in the context of chester hospital, i can only imagine that there'll be a real

move now to listen more to the practitioners. if there are concerns that's that concerns because that's that goes to the heart of this. >> chris we'll go to the >> chris and we'll go to the heart of inquiry. why is heart of the inquiry. why is it that practitioners, that non—medical practitioners, managers administer traitors? their over their view held sway over consultants, nurses and doctors who were deeply concerned they could see what was happening . could see what was happening. nurses would disappear off the shift, the child's health would collapse , the baby's health collapse, the baby's health would collapse. when letby was alone with the baby . and the one alone with the baby. and the one constant through all those all those attacks was letby being on the ward. >> of course it was. they they. the managers said this could be circumstantial. is it really her? but the concerns were there by doctors on the ward, by nurses , and it should have been nurses, and it should have been listened to. think that's what listened to. i think that's what this come come this inquiry will come to come to conclusion launches. to conclusion when it launches. of course, mrs. sunak this morning that leading morning saying that leading towards it being a statutory inquiry to compile people to give evidence if they need to, that the government is saying give evidence if they need to, that morning, rnment is saying give evidence if they need to, that morning, i'ment is saying give evidence if they need to, that morning, i'm notis saying give evidence if they need to, that morning, i'm not reallyng this morning, i'm not really that about terms that bothered about in terms of the type inquiry as long as that bothered about in terms of thgetse inquiry as long as

that bothered about in terms of thgets the inquiry as long as that bothered about in terms of thgets the best|iry as long as that bothered about in terms of thgets the best answers.|g as that bothered about in terms of th gets the best answers. and it gets the best answers. and the key thing is speed and it must do do it quickly. we've seen, haven't and bev seen, haven't we? andrew and bev how inquiries can take how long some inquiries can take the war, chilcot inquiry the iraq war, chilcot inquiry and be and others. it's got to be quickly. they're trying to quickly. so they're trying to prioritise but also prioritise speed but also getting the best answers for the victims structure victims and whatever structure that , they'll go for it. that takes, they'll go for it. >> just of the sunday >> just think of the sunday inquiry. chris. 12 years that took yeah , that's right. took yeah, that's right. >> the problem is that lawyers get involved. yeah, well , get involved. yeah, well, andrew, sorry to interrupt you, but the problem is that lawyers get involved and they then have to represent the rights of those get involved and they then have to represandthe rights of those get involved and they then have to represandthe those of those get involved and they then have to represandthe those managers accused and all those managers and the trust they'll have. qcs or senior or sorry cases, senior barristers . and the thing starts barristers. and the thing starts to mushroom. we're seeing already with inquiry already with a covid inquiry aren't we, with with ballooning costs running the costs already running on the first of so the first part of that. so the concern is, yes, it's great to say a judge led inquiry , maximum say a judge led inquiry, maximum powers. the problem powers. but the problem is it might down in might then get bogged down in process in legal fees and lawyers , and that might delay lawyers, and that might delay the findings . what the crucial the findings. what the crucial thing right now for parents of anyone worried by this is

getting early conclusions and make sure they're acted on. >> chris, can we just ask you one quick question about this survey about where britain's sits on the world stage and most people think that other countries take the mickey out of . us >> your words there. but you are right about half of people called this more in common survey feel that on its national issues, the uk is taking advantage of not the mickey but it's the same thing isn't it? more men than women think the same thing. and it's a big issue amongst tory voters in the north of england. so kind of red of england. so the kind of red wall that will be the wall seats that will be the battleground for the next election, concerned election, they're concerned about because about it. this matters because post—brexit the meant to post—brexit the uk is meant to be of muscular presence be more of a muscular presence on the world stage, but we're not really it, are we? not really seeing it, are we? and that's a concern, i think, from these voters. they're looking at the small boats crisis of a trade crisis or the lack of a trade deal rishi sunak is to deal and rishi sunak is off to india next the g20 , india next month. the g20, that's when i mean, he's obviously comfortable on the international but he's obviously comfortable on the intetoational but he's obviously comfortable on the inteto deliver but he's obviously comfortable on the inteto deliver for but he's obviously comfortable on the inteto deliver for britain 1e's obviously comfortable on the inteto deliver for britain and

got to deliver for britain and that's important . that's more important. >> fascinating. thank you. >> okay. fascinating. thank you. thanks much. thanks so much. >> of course, we're a soft touch. all these touch. that's why all these people crossing channel people are crossing the channel >> yes. well it plays into that idea, doesn't just say idea, doesn't it? just to say that's political editor. that's our new political editor. he's terrific. >> i used to work with him on the daily telegraph some years ago . he opposite me. was ago. he sat opposite me. he was ago. he sat opposite me. he was a then and an a great guy then and he's an even reporter now. even better reporter now. >> he's known, >> chopper, as he's known, big name you lot at name in westminster. you lot at home be going. who is he? home might be going. who is he? i gb he's new. i watched gb news. he's new. well, we got the best in well, we have got the best in the business. let me tell you, he is brilliant. right back to the story david the lucy letby story now. david hayes, rights and hayes, a human rights lawyer and joins now . david, i just want joins us now. david, i just want you this from you to listen to this from robert who's former robert buckland, who's a former secretary of state for justice and lord chancellor what he and the lord chancellor what he told gb news yesterday. here we go . go. >> well, i know i think, sadly, the court's hands are tied at the court's hands are tied at the moment. i mean, my suggestion have been to make sure that there was a live link beamed the cell, either beamed into the cell, either sound or sound and pictures to ensure that letby had nowhere to hide and that she, in effect, has to listen to what the judge

is saying about the case and most importantly, the victim. personal statements , those personal statements, those impact statements that will really bring home, i think, to the wider world, the appal ing devastating impact of the loss of these innocent children, these innocent babies have had upon dozens of families . upon dozens of families. >> so, david, why isn't it law that the perpetrator of these crimes must sit in court and listen to the victims statements? why . not statements? why. not >> good morning to both of you. i think that , you know, it's i think that, you know, it's a very, very harrowing day. i think , for many people today, think, for many people today, including the families , including the families, obviously, of the victims and think that you know, we're quite rightly having a debate over the situation that we have in the courts at the moment. and you have you know, it's a little bit of a complicated situation because you have different penods because you have different periods a trial. so know, periods of a trial. so you know, for if there is for example, if there is a defendant during the trial and

they're required in the court and they don't go , of course, and they don't go, of course, then there are abilities for the judge to request the compelling of that person to come. but then it's down if that person is in custody to the governors of the prison are dealing with the prison that are dealing with the detention of that person, whether not they go. now, whether or not they go. now, when to sentencing now, when it comes to sentencing now, the governor does have that power to send that person in, but often more times than not, that doesn't doesn't happen. so you've got this very unacceptable situation at the moment. that's not clear now. it certainly does need reform. i'm not in favour of seeing someone dragged kicking and screaming. why not? david can i ask you why not? i don't think well, i think yeah, i mentioned that. i mean, i think that doesn't benefit it, the actual administration of the justice system . and then what justice system. and then what will happen , you'll see, and i'm will happen, you'll see, and i'm not defending child killers by any way at all. now i think you would see in that situation is that you're going to have more problems in terms of human rights act issues coming up.

you're to going have prison governors that are underfunded, under—resourced , most scared of under—resourced, most scared of doing things in terms of using reasonable force. what is reasonable force. what is reasonable force, what isn't. and you're going to create an even more complex situation. now, i agree with what robert buckland said, that , you know, buckland said, that, you know, if there should be the ability to have people in prison listen to have people in prison listen to these sentence , if they do to these sentence, if they do not go , i think that's a very not go, i think that's a very good thing. the question is to why, as he was in government previously, did he not put that in ? and i also do think in place? and i also do think that the judges should have more power to compel people to come to court . but power to compel people to come to court. but there power to compel people to come to court . but there needs at to court. but there needs at that point to be a evidence based process of whether or not in that scenario, that person should be brought. and that would involve the governor and the families of the victims. so i don't believe there should be an absolute cast iron drag the person to court kicking and screaming. but this but when is it but when this person.

>> but, david, if i can interrupt you. sorry. when the person involved here is the most infamous child serial killer in british legal history , she british legal history, she killed babies . she killed seven tiny babies. she tried to kill six more. we're now reading there could be a further 30. we've heard from one lawyer represents two lawyer who represents two families they wanted families who said they wanted her in court. their view should prevail , not what right prevail, not hers. what right has got over anything? she's has she got over anything? she's forsaken all her rights, in my view , andrew, i'm not by any view, andrew, i'm not by any means i'm not defending her. >> what i'm saying is looking at the actual practical parties of bringing a person quite extreme force into court, where they do not want to go in front of the people in the court. i think you are going to have a serious issue in the administrator of justice. if we imagine that happening, if, say today , happening, if, let's say today, that happen and that that that did happen and that person was kicking screaming person was kicking and screaming and not going to court, and you have violent is that have violent episode, is that what now? i'm not defending this person, jane them not is person, jane them not but is that that something that we that is that something that we want to see put them in

handcuffs . handcuffs. >> put them in handcuffs. put them in leg cuffs. done >> absolutely . that's something >> absolutely. that's something that can be done. but the question that i was asking, is that something that people involved in the administration of business the dignity of the business and the dignity of the business and the dignity of the business and the dignity of the court want see, of the court want to see, you know, that something now, of know, is that something now, of course, person i do agree course, that person i do agree that, yes, the judge should have more powers to bring that person . shouldn't a matter . it shouldn't just be a matter for governor that that for the governor that that should there should be should be there. there should be more there. they should more powers there. they should also to have that also be in ability to have that person watch listen to person watch and listen to heanngs person watch and listen to hearings of sentencing if they're in their cell. now, even in that case, though, you can't force someone to obviously putting them in handcuffs to listen and watch things . and the listen and watch things. and the i'm looking here at the practicality of as well where we are with this government. if they bring new legislation in now they've made these promises even when dominic raab was was in post back with the various other serial killers from last year to this year. nothing's been done. you had robert buckland talking about it. this

should been changed. well, should have been changed. well, why then? you why didn't they do it then? you now you know, and richard's now have you know, and richard's rishi sunak, you know, i mean, i could use a lot of words to describe child killer and their actions cowardly would not be one them. and we now see a an one of them. and we now see a an inquiry that's going to be put inquiry that's going to be put in place that is effectively not going to really have any teeth. so i would like to see the government focusing fixing government focusing on fixing a broken justice system, the broken justice system, the broken prisons broken broken prisons and broken britain actually doing britain and actually doing things rather than just talking about them when they become when they pressed. yes, they become pressed. yes, absolutely . there should more absolutely. there should be more powerful bring people powerful judges to bring people to court to hear sentencing, or at least see them in their cells listening to this. but i also think we need to look at the practicalities of the administration of using extreme force and how that ultimately because what this is what would happenif because what this is what would happen if those laws passed, it would end up stuck in human rights courts and again, with the court human the european court of human rights. wouldn't go rights. and it wouldn't go anywhere. effectively anywhere. that's effectively where go. if things where this would go. if things were wouldn't were rush through, it wouldn't go anywhere. event.

go anywhere. in any event. >> you, david. >> okay. thank you, david. fascinating as always, david. hey human rights lawyer. hey there, human rights lawyer. i guess it's that period in a in a court case when the sentence is being dished out. that's what i kind of want to understand. a little bit more about how the tone changes. >> i mean, and he was talking about the dignity of the court. i'm thinking about the i know you're going to say the dignity of victims. know exactly of the victims. i know exactly what thinking, what they're what i'm thinking, what they're entitled and entitled to have here. and they're entitled to look that woman in eye where they read woman in the eye where they read out their witness statement, let her eyes the her avert her eyes to the ground. if you insist. >> says can't treat >> alan says we can't treat convicted persons differently or propose solitary confinement with other vile with no visits whilst other vile convicted killers having convicted killers are having a good . life confined at hmp good life. life confined at hmp and anthony said the law also needs to be changed. so the nhs officials who ignored the consultants can be charged with a criminal offence . a criminal offence. >> and says why on earth >> and sally says why on earth are this country? are we so soft in this country? good question, why we good question, sally. why are we criminals? no for now criminals? have now no for now treated like delicate little creatures all authority. if creatures by all authority. if they from they can bring letby from jail

to , they can convert to court, they can convert a court to face the families who are brave. the victims statements must be heard by the criminal face to face. and i think robert butler's idea is quite very translating quite good. very translating that sentence into the. but somebody else said, well, she just puts her hands over her. >> yes. yeah yes, i'm sure. i'm sure she would. i guess it's about moving at that point. about moving on at that point. they've guilty . they've been found guilty. justice has been served . her justice has been served. her sentence is the punishment . so sentence is the punishment. so having her in court is about i can understand the logic. it's about then giving something back to the victim's family as it's about their moment. then to have their say. but i thought that statement from the parents of babies a and b was very powerful about we will not think about you anymore. maybe that's more powerful . you are now not powerful. you are now not relevant to us. you do not get the infamy that you request and we will not think about you. and maybe that's why she shouldn't have maybe that's why she shouldn't hav let's hope they do get that >> let's hope they do get that piece. because how do they get peace particularly peace out of this? particularly now more cases are now we hear 30 more cases are going looked at by the

going to be looked at by the police. she's woman. and going to be looked at by the polisorryie's woman. and going to be looked at by the poli sorry she'd woman. and going to be looked at by the poli sorry she'd be woman. and going to be looked at by the poli sorry she'd be dragged 1. and going to be looked at by the poli sorry she'd be dragged into d i'm sorry she'd be dragged into court . still to come, the mayor court. still to come, the mayor of london has been dragged into a . a race i'ow. >> a race row. >> you are with britain's newsroom on

christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . radio. >> it's 1175. you're with britain's news and tv news with andrew pierce. bev turner. >> now the mayor of london has been dragged into a race row after his official website

posted a photo of a white family with the line that it doesn't represent real londoners. the image shows two parents with their two children walking along their two children walking along the river thames. >> how nice an image is that? but not good enough for our london labour mayor. >> that's right . so london labour mayor. >> that's right. so in london labour mayor. >> that's right . so in response, >> that's right. so in response, the mayor's spokesperson said the mayor's spokesperson said the caption added by a the photo caption was added by a staff member in error and doesn't reflect the view of the mayor or the greater london authority . authority. >> i'm not so sure the document has now been removed from the greater london authority website and reviewed to ensure, and is being reviewed to ensure, quote, and language quote, the guidance and language is appropriate . is appropriate. >> so let's speak to the co—founder of conservative lives against racism and gb news presenter albie amankona. hi, i'll be good to see you. what do you make of this? how do you think this has happened? is it just the just some youngster in the office who's going through their environmental social governance requirements of how they represent the images on the website and they've just put some notes on there which have made it into the public? maybe it's an innocent mistake ,

huh? >> no, bab, i think you're being far too generous. >> this is clearly not an innocent mistake. and if the mayor of london himself is blaming on blaming this on on a spokesperson or a junior marketing officer that works for him , he's the one that decides him, he's the one that decides who he employs. and he seems to be surrounding himself with people who are bought into this idea of race and racism, which come to america, which is all inspired by critical race theory and apparently all white people are racists. and it couldn't possibly be the case that a white family represents londoners in what is still a majority white city. we saw in the 2021 census that despite london being one of the most diverse places in the country and in the world, it is still 54% white. so i would say that family of four represents londoners . londoners. >> we do suspect, as i do, that actually, whoever the underling is, he's been shouted and screamed at for making this so—called mistake was merely reflecting the view , as probably reflecting the view, as probably often expressed privately of the

mayor of . london mayor of. london >> i think he was not just expressing the view of the mayor of london, but expressing a wider view which is quite prominent on the left wing of british politics. this this way of thinking, that identity is the most important thing. it's the most important thing. it's the way a person looks, who a person loves, what colour their skin is, which is the most important, not the content of their character, which is, of course , famous quote from course, a famous quote from martin luther king. really martin luther king. we really need away from this way need to move away from this way of thinking . of thinking. >> i think i'll be i do find this story quite fascinating because , as we say, london is because, as we say, london is roughly 5050, white and non white, just 50, i think 53, as you say , whites, not necessarily you say, whites, not necessarily british born , 36. british born, british born, 36. british born, white. and who would be offended by the all white family? that's my question. who are they trying to appease? where's that pressure going to come from . pressure going to come from. >> well, i think they're

probably trying to appeal to non—white londoners who, of course , make up almost 50% of course, make up almost 50% of london. i am a non white londoner. i can tell you i'm not appeal. i'm not appeal by that appeal. i'm not appeal by that appeal from sadiq khan. and his member of staff. i think it's pretty ridiculous to suggest that sadiq khan is going to get more votes from black and brown londoners by not having white families on his marketing material. perhaps they just spend less time on his marketing material and more time on his policies . they wouldn't be. policies. they wouldn't be. coming up with coming up. coming up with rubbish ulez and rubbish things like ulez and actually things actually doing things which londoners . londoners wanted. >> i guess you want any any visuals. so there is a preoccupation now, isn't there, with any sort of visuals related to any sort of organisation that they represent an accurate, diverse demographic, but it feels like that pendulum has swung so far the other way now that to have an all white family, i mean, the fact that they were also a hetero sexual

family with a mother or father and two children, that sort of struck me as rather old fashioned. you don't really see that very often anymore. >> maybe if one of the kids had been trans ap, that would have been trans ap, that would have been okay. but i'm just wondering who who we are worried about because nobody wants to be discriminatory. >> we want more reasons to bring people together, not divide us. we don't want to not represent this country properly. but why shall be? are they who in that office has said we cannot have an all white family? i still don't feel like we've quite got to the bottom of who is going to put the pressure on the office to represent more , more racially to represent more, more racially diverse people . diverse people. >> ultimately , i think the way >> ultimately, i think the way that an organised national culture is created is from the top. we've got to remember that back in 2020, i think as a result of the black lives matter protests , sadiq khan described protests, sadiq khan described the greater london authority in the greater london authority in the office of the mayor of london as an anti—racist

organisation . so obviously this organisation. so obviously this way of thinking is emanating from the top. now there is absolutely nothing wrong with organisations seeking to be more tolerant and more inclusive, but it's all about the way that you do it and it cannot be that we say that some londoners are real londoners and other londoners are not real londoners because we are all londoners . we are all londoners. >> you're right, i'll be and it will be hard to know that if it was a family, a mixed race family or a black family, i don't think there would be this i don't imagine there'll be people in the sidelines. white people in the sidelines. white people saying this doesn't represent me. do you know what i mean? so i feel i don't know where we are with this identity politics anymore. it's such a mess. >> i think been found out. >> i think he's been found out. that's think's happened that's what i think's happened here. i think the mayor has been caught fingers in the caught with his fingers in the till he has. and i think >> i think he has. and i think more broadly, when it comes to diversity and representation on television and in adverts, i do think there is a sense that perhaps it has gone a little bit

too far. you do see adverts nowadays and there'll be a family which is made up of a of an asian person , an east asian an asian person, an east asian person, a south person , a person, a south asian person, a black white person , black person, a white person, and it just sort of thinks what what kind of families like this actually in real life . it actually exist in real life. it doesn't it's not the case that everyone to be included in everyone has to be included in everyone has to be included in every single advert we see. every single advert that we see. i think we need to just get back to a place we're making to a place where we're making good corporate decisions and making good adverts that make people feel good about themselves. >> yeah, very interesting, albie, thanks for that. that's albie, thanks for that. that's albie . he's one of our gb news albie. he's one of our gb news presenters . of course, he's presenters. of course, he's brilliant on that team on saturday evening. now, up next, i'm going one of my i'm going to talk to one of my panellists, our panellists here on about tweet about on tv news about her tweet about gay people, because she's not much pleased with them, which means me. but first, your morning headlines with . tamsin morning headlines with. tamsin >> andrew, thank you. hear the headunes >> andrew, thank you. hear the headlines at 1133. the prime

minister has described lucy letby as cowardly for refusing to appear in court today for her sentencing . manchester crown sentencing. manchester crown court is currently hearing impact statements from some of the parents of babies killed or injured by letby. the 33 year old former nurse was found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six more at the countess of chester hospital . the prime minister has hospital. the prime minister has this morning said the inquiry into letby crimes should happen as quickly as possible. >> i think it's cowardly that people who commit such horrendous crimes do not face their victim and hear first hand their victim and hear first hand the impact that their crimes have had on them and their families and loved ones. well, i think the important thing for the inquiry to do is make sure that get the answers that families get the answers that families get the answers that it is that they need, that it is possible for us to learn the lessons from what happened. everything conducted transparently and to happen as quickly as possible. those are the objectives that we want for the objectives that we want for the inquiry and will make sure that up to deliver on

that it's set up to deliver on those aims. a 50 year old man will appear in court later following the major police data breach in northern ireland. >> he's been charged with possessing documents likely to be useful to terrorists . it's be useful to terrorists. it's after the details of 10,000 officers and staff were published online by mistake . published online by mistake. police believe the information is now in the hands of dissident republicans . england captain republicans. england captain millie bright says the team will bounce back from their world cup final loss to spain. the skipper says she's proud of the girls and that it isn't the end of the journey . both labour leader sir journey. both labour leader sir keir starmer and lib dems ed davey have called for them to be given honours . well, you can get given honours. well, you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gb news. now though, back to andrew and .

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this evening. gb news the people's . channel is it's 1141 people's. channel is it's1141 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> back in the studio with us, bushra shaikh, political commentator and my favourite columnist. oh, no, i said that as well, don't i? sarah vine you can't say that. yes, my joint favourite columnist on the day now. how. >> now. >> sarah vine, my favourite columnist called sarah yes. >> we're talking about >> and we're talking about coffee becoming the nation's favourite. yeah. so yeah , i favourite. yeah. so yeah, i can't believe the coffee's become nation. can't believe the coffee's becomethe nation. can't believe the coffee's becomethe end ion. can't believe the coffee's becomethe end oti. can't believe the coffee's becomethe end of the world. >> it's the end of the world. come let's admit it. it's come on, let's admit it. it's the of the year. tea the end of the year. a tea drinking country. >> well, let's start >> we are. well, let's start with and move coffee. >> and morning, our lovely >> and every morning, our lovely chloe of our sound chloe or one of our sound producers will come and say, producers will come in and say, what like, andrew? what would you like, andrew? never tea. never you always have tea. always. start the day always. i like to start the day with tea and then i move to on

coffee. bushra, this is an american ism is this is our americanisation culture. americanisation of our culture. >> addict. i am >> i am a coffee addict. i am tea, coffee. i'm any coffee has to good coffee over tea. to be a good coffee over tea. strong strong coffee. i'll even have a macchiato. i'll have little coffee shots. i've just become a coffee. >> and when do you have your first one? in the day. >> it just as soon as >> it just depends. as soon as i wake up, andrew, i'm in that kitchen and i'm having coffee. kitchen and i'm having a coffee. it's the first thing i think about. >> what about you, sir? >> what about you, sir? >> well, this a story in >> well, this is a story in the times, point out, times, i should point out, saying coffee. well, the saying that coffee. well, the coffee manufacturers association claim overtaken claim that coffee has overtaken tea basis tea. this is the national basis for this. i think that's it. >> that's partially a partial service. >> statistically, i think they're probably right. so the idea is that the british britain is no longer a nation of tea drinkers. now, i'm a tea drinker. i have a of tea drinker. i have a cup of tea first thing in the morning, although coffee although my daughter is a coffee drinker is bad that she drinker and is so bad that she has to have a coffee machine in her bedroom next to her bed. like, remember? did you like, do you remember? did you ever teas yeah. ever have a teas made? yeah. yeah. so i have a teas made. >> do you still have.

>> do you still have. >> great. those goblin >> great. i love those goblin teas when john major was teas made when john major was on desert prime minister desert island as prime minister the roared when he said , the nation roared when he said, oh, norman, i've got teas made by the whole country. well my parents always had to go blue. it's a goblin. is the brand a gobun it's a goblin. is the brand a goblin ? teas made. and my father goblin? teas made. and my father told me that there was a goblin that lived in in the machine that lived in in the machine that made the tea and that was why was called goblin. and why it was called goblin. and for , mean, i was for years, i mean, till i was about 25, believe that. yeah, about 25, i believe that. yeah, that's very funny. but yeah , i that's very funny. but yeah, i would i mean, drink would tease you. i mean, i drink a of tea. i probably drink a lot of tea. i probably drink about an hour. i'd about a cup of tea. an hour. i'd say course of the say throughout the course of the day sort off towards day i sort of tail off towards weaving decaffeinated my weaving in decaffeinated my because drink much no because i drink too much tea. no idnnk because i drink too much tea. no i drink girly grey my teas. >> may sarah the when it starts in the morning and it that's a lovely noise noise and you make your tea and i sit in bed and i dnnk your tea and i sit in bed and i drink tea and literally my drink my tea and literally my day downhill. day is downhill. >> i day is downhill. » n day is downhill. >> i say that >> but also can i just say that coffee moment my tea doesn't coffee moment of my tea doesn't give bad breath. give you bad breath. >> coffee breath the morning give you bad breath. >>the fee breath the morning give you bad breath. >>the tube'eath the morning give you bad breath. >>the tube it's1 the morning give you bad breath. >>the tube it's justthe morning on the tube it's just horrendous. all people horrendous. all these people have then have had coffees and then haven't cleaned their teeth. >> my science

>> still smell my science teacher, mr coffee teacher, mr philips, coffee breath culture. breath like a homely culture. >> home, having >> being at home, having a cup of a biscuit. coffee is of tea in a biscuit. coffee is more social culture. it's more of a social culture. it's going the kind going out there. it's the kind of feel where you go to of italian feel where you go to the cafe very sociable. >> you meet your for >> you meet your friends for coffee also also can coffee and also also also can i just someone up just say, as someone who grew up in the british drink in italy, the british drink coffee in italy, the british drink coffso . so you're absolutely not >> so. so you're absolutely not supposed have cappuccino supposed to have a cappuccino after the morning. that after 11:00 in the morning. that is okay. you break is the rule. okay. if you break it they will laugh at you. >> early in the >> and you have early in the morning cappuccino stops at 11:00. >> right? 5 11:00. >> right? a morning >> right? a m it's a morning dnnk. >> right? a m it's a morning drink . it's a >> right? a m it's a morning drink. it's a milky morning dnnk drink. it's a milky morning drink get you up after that, drink to get you up after that, it's right ? it's espressos, right? >> let's be homely . >> okay. now let's be homely. bush, you've caused a stir on social media. can you just enlighten us exactly what you said about what you object to most of all homosexuality ? >> well, 7- >> well, it 7_ >> well, it was 7 >> well, it was actually it was it it became a discussion because i had few people telling me that as a parent, i wasn't allowed to teach my children about homosexuality or the lgbt community. and what that look like, because that conversation hasn't ever happened. so this was coming up on was like so it's coming up on screen how. >> screen now. >> if you're listening, bushra,

just read out a couple of things what so it was about what you've said so it was about i'm muslim and in islam, we believe that homosexuality a believe that homosexuality is a sin don't believe sin because they don't believe that natural and that it that it's natural and that it was man and adam and eve. was man and woman, adam and eve. >> we're there to protect >> and we're there to protect mate parents. and that mate and as parents. and that being our values and our foundations are foundations, those are the things that going to things that we're not going to be children at be teaching our children at school. so these are important discussions . but it wasn't about discussions. but it wasn't about ostracise a community because like islam is also a very peaceful event. >> you described you described it as unnatural . it as unnatural. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> so what i am i'm unnatural. >> so what i am i'm unnatural. >> well, to according muslims in islam, we believe i'm asking you. >> yeah, i'm asking you. i don't believe you are. but i'm homosexual . i've been i for 40 years. >> i believe the act of it is so because, you know, we believe in, like, sins. >> talking about >> you're talking about sex. >> you're talking about sex. >> yes, yes, yes, so » yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. so ifs— >> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. so it's act of it. it's the act of it. >> but sexuality is about much more than bushra, it? more than sex. bushra, is it? yeah, is. it's. i'm yeah, of course it is. it's. i'm in love somebody, and it's in love with somebody, and it's not i'm love with him not about i'm in love with him because of what we of our sex. i mean, i mean, for all sorts of

other factors, which is why he is fabulous he fabulous. is fabulous and he is fabulous. but i i mean, when but it's why i say i mean, when you got married to wasn't you got married to james wasn't because of the sex. presumably you him for many reasons. you loved him for many reasons. >> also because was also because you loved him for many reasons. >> actually ause was also because you loved him for many reasons. >> actually babiesas also because you loved him for many reasons. >> actually babies .; also because you loved him for many reasons. >> actually babies . it lso because you loved him for many reasons. >> actually babies . it was)ecause not actually babies. it was about having babies. but it's not. not that. it's not. it's not about that. it's more it's more about more about our it's more about our relationship with god and it's the relationship with our faith we believe in faith because we believe in islam whether you're islam or whether you're christian catholic, some christian or catholic, that some things , the sins and other things, the sins and other things, the sins and other things it's not things are not. so it's not about judging. >> i sinner . >> i am a sinner. >>— >> i am a sinner. >> so we don't judge the sinner, but i am a sinner. >> in your book, we of course, of course. >> but that's the same as >> but that's also the same as someone to me, bushra, someone saying to me, bushra, you don't wear you don't actually wear the hijab. muslim, you're hijab. so as a muslim, you're also right ? also a sinner, right? >> what do you think? >> so what do you think? >> so what do you think? >> think problem is >> well, i think the problem is when if you say that somebody is unnatural , then that could lead unnatural, then that could lead to people thinking that they should try and stop you being homosexual. >> well, i mean, we've heard about the therapy that people. >> exactly . so, yes. so gays >> exactly. so, yes. so gays used to be subject to. well, you

know, famously , was it turing know, famously, was it turing who ? alan turing. alan turing who? alan turing. alan turing was subjected to hormone therapy , i think, to stop him. and then he killed himself. so i think the thing is, it's i, i understand that this is your religion. and i sort of and i do respect that. i mean, i don't i'm not a muslim and i don't i don't believe in a lot of things that your religion believes in orindeed that your religion believes in or indeed lots of things that other but other people's religion. but i do it's about tolerance do think it's about tolerance andifs do think it's about tolerance and it's about acceptance of other ways of life. and other people's ways of life. and i think anything gives i don't think anything gives anyone right to say anyone really the right to say you're wrong. i'm right. do you know what i mean? >> should i should i be put through this therapy ? your view? through this therapy? your view? >> they could try to stop me being gay and being a sinner. >> the thing is, andrew, look, it should i, in your view, would it should i, in your view, would it be better if i. >> if they at least tried it on me? >> it's not. it's not about me to make that you see, to make that decision, you see, it's what's in your heart i >> -- >> what's in hm >> what's in your heart. >> what's in your heart. >> believe that somebody >> no, i believe that somebody who's way life, who's choosing a way of life, that's them decide what

that's up to them to decide what that's up to them to decide what that looks like. >> so if. if it was one of your children . yes. came home and children. yes. who came home and said, i'm i'm gay , what would said, i'm i'm gay, what would you say to me? oh that's really complicated because it's a big, big discussion, because obviously we have it within our community as well. >> and lots of scholars are starting to talk about it. and say that. say how to deal with that. firstly, look, the end of the firstly, look, at the end of the day, comes to my day, when it comes to my children, they to come children, if they were to come and me, to and say that to me, i have to sit down and talk to them about it and really go into it and understand where coming from. >> will you try persuade >> but will you try to persuade them not? them that they're not? >> it's about persuading >> it's not about persuading them they're as long them that they're not. as long as child understands that in as my child understands that in islam there right islam there are there are right things things for us. things and wrong things for us. and things have and those things have consequences . consequences with god. >> then you consequence then if your i that your child says, i hear that mum, but i'm sticking with it, what or he what consequence does she or he have with god in your face? what happened? are they burning in the hell is it? >> hell no, no, no, no. because the thing is, god, god doesn't punish there's punish the activist. so there's lots are of lots of there are lots of muslims that let's say, even perhaps have thought about

homosexuality, because homosexuality, but because their their they their religion or their they want god they want to please god, then they end saying, me see end up saying, okay, let me see how i can deal with that for a life potentially. life of celibacy, potentially. yes i mean, there's lots of accounts and lots of stories about. so sad. yeah for about. that's so sad. yeah for some for some it is . but some it is. for some it is. but i mean, ultimately, whatever the sin looks like, whether it's for is for muslims, whether it's being gay or whether it's going there and being incredibly cruel to your and being a to your wife and not being a good husband to her, whatever that is, you'll accountable that is, you'll be accountable independently with so would independently with god. so would you dread idea, one of your you dread the idea, one of your children gay ? i don't think children was gay? i don't think i would dread the idea. i think children was gay? i don't think i would bead the idea. i think children was gay? i don't think i would be upset idea. i think children was gay? i don't think i would be upset because think children was gay? i don't think i would be upset because as1k children was gay? i don't think i would be upset because as a as a muslim mother, i feel like i would have let them down. >> sarah, what you? >> sarah, what about you? >> sarah, what about you? >> you've got two think >> you've got two kids, i think is really is what i don't really understand position understand about this position is you believe in god is that if you believe in god and you that god is god and you believe that god is god is , which i is omnipotent, which is, i assume, belief , then why assume, the belief, then why would he or she or whatever god is, create homosexuality if it was wrong ? was wrong? >> you know, is it not just the case that, you know, human beings decide that homosexuality

is wrong because that suits their purposes and a lot of the rules around religion tend to be born out of expediency. you know , you must get married and not have lots of affairs because , have lots of affairs because, you know, it's easier if society is stable in that way. it's easier if parents stay together, blah, blah, blah. so, you know, i just think if there is a god, whatever he or she puts on this earth is obviously , you know, earth is obviously, you know, part of the plan. so therefore , part of the plan. so therefore, you are part of the plan as you are your we were all are in all your we were all magnificent made magnificent and we were all made in according to in god's image according to sorry, we were all made in god's image. >> well, exactly. >> well, exactly. >> but also also of it >> but also also think of it like this. if you think that stealing somebody is sin stealing from somebody is a sin or somebody is or stealing from somebody is wrong, stealing or stealing from somebody is wrongthem stealing or stealing from somebody is wrongthem right. stealing or stealing from somebody is wrongthem right. soealing or stealing from somebody is wrongthem right. so bying from them is right. so by default, you have something default, when you have something wrong, you have something right. so one, whether so whether you're one, whether you're or a christian you're a muslim or a christian or catholic, we've got this is a sin and this isn't a sin. this is wrong and is right. and is wrong and this is right. and that's where really that's where the premise comes from . it's the premise comes from. it's what those beliefs, those values are. >> i'm just sitting here with my

heart breaking for all those muslim women who might muslim men and women who might be have to live be gay and have to live a totally oppressed life not being themselves. the worst thing you can be in life is to not be true to who you are or yourself and your values and who you love. and it's not just about sex. it's about who you are. and also, i think i think homosexuality is not a choice for most people , certainly isn't. >> i mean, i'm not homosexual, but it's like it's like being a heterosexual for me is not a it's not a choice. it's just what i am. i couldn't change it if you said to me, you've got to be i wouldn't really be gay. sarah i wouldn't really do not my thing. do it because it's not my thing. >> the men who jailed >> the men who were jailed because sexuality, they because of their sexuality, they didn't gay and get didn't choose to be gay and get jailed sexuality. jailed for their sexuality. it is a living through is a and living through the terrible of the terrible aids plague of the 19805, terrible aids plague of the 1980s, have. it was 1980s, who would have. it was a terrible for me as a young terrible time for me as a young man, beaten up, attacked, spat out. that out. nobody would choose that lifestyle know? out. nobody would choose that lifestyleyou know? out. nobody would choose that lifestyleyou know w? out. nobody would choose that lifestyleyou know what? nobody. >> and you know what? nobody. you're born with andrew. nobody has violence has the right to exude violence or fear, create fear for anybody of any group. that's not fair. no one should be treated in such

a manner because you humanity comes before everything else, you know? >> should about someone >> should we talk about someone who humanity? 140 000. who has aced humanity? 140 000. what a start . one one for who has aced humanity? 140 000. what a start. one one for me. isn't that amazing? >> amazing. >> amazing. >> 114. >> 114. >> have you got a picture of it? would you like to live to be that old? sarah? >> look, if. if. >>— >> look, if. if. >> if that's what looking. if that's what being 114 looks like. i'm with yeah. like. i'm good with that. yeah. >> looks pretty great, >> she looks pretty great, actually. she's. she's actually. and she's. she's speaking and she can hear. i mean, think i'd love i'd like mean, i think i'd love i'd like the most important thing is, is your health and your and your ability to function and be well. >> and if you can do that at 114 great deserves a telegram every year from 110 from the king. >> yes , of course. >> yes, of course. >>— >> yes, of course. >> very absolutely . >> very absolutely. >> very absolutely. >> he's all the people that we should go and talk to and ask them what their secrets are. yeah. to to 104 yeah. because to get to 104 and also tell us some of the great she probably makes 25 wood bunds she probably makes 25 wood blinds an something blinds an hour or something because people because they do these people don't yeah . don't know yeah. >> glass of sherry. >> and a glass of sherry. >> and a glass of sherry. >> and a glass of sherry. >> a glass of sherry. believe me. something like that. >> mcdonald's guess one

>> mcdonald's then i guess one of other questions you're of the other questions you're asking to live asking is would you want to live that long? i'm not sure i would. >> definitely i would. >> yeah, definitely i would. i would just long had most of would just long as i had most of my exactly. my facts. exactly. >> as you can hear and >> as long as you can hear and see, as as i can do see, as long as i can do everything need do. everything that i need to do. >> i'd to live that long. >> i'd love to live that long. be great. >> long as i can still >> yeah. as long as i can still enjoy wine and see my enjoy a glass of wine and see my family. just how many family. but just think how many people must have lost by people she must have lost by this age. but also i also. >> wonder what she makes >> i also wonder what she makes of we spend of this mad world where we spend so on about so much time going on about trans issues and all that sort of thing. what are doing to of thing. what are they doing to this when was she born ? this world when was she born? >> the math, i can't. 14, >> to do the math, i can't. 14, 19, 19, 20. >> she . that's 838 i think we've >> she. that's 838 i think we've all just failed. >> rishi sunak's maths test. yes. >> yeah, we have haven't we. >> yeah, we have haven't we. >> i'm sure she's just thinking why do these people spend their entire lives on screen ? entire lives on a screen? >> but it's a great swathe of history really? history. really? >> yeah, yeah. when >> yeah. yeah, yeah. jim, when i was first local paper, we was my first local paper, we used to. we used to do golden wedding anniversaries, and i used they were so

used to think they were so, so old they all said the same. old and they all said the same. what's for happy what's the recipe for happy marriage? they all said, what's the recipe for happy marrand? they all said, what's the recipe for happy marrand? and' all said, what's the recipe for happy marrand? and you said, what's the recipe for happy marrand? and you could see give and take. and you could see they hated each other quite often. often . right. often. quite often. right. >> for britain's >> that's it for britain's newsroom today. and newsroom today. sarah and bushra, you . bushra, thank you. >> always to see you both. >> always good to see you both. >> always good to see you both. >> live day live desk with >> the live day live desk with mark longhurst and pip tomson pips tell us what's pips here to tell us what's coming up on today's show. pip what dealing with? what are you dealing with? >> morning, we will, >> good morning, bev. we will, of be following the of course, be following the sentencing of lucy letby is sentencing of lucy letby that is due happen at 2:00. plus, due to happen at 2:00. plus, would you do a calendar at the age of 82? cliff richard has will tell you more about that over the next three hours. now, the weather , the temperatures the weather, the temperatures rising , boxt the weather, the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news . sponsors of weather on gb news. at alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. >> pretty warm and sunny across much of the south today. the breeze picking up further north where there is bit more cloud where there is a bit more cloud . some wet weather . we've got some wet weather across northwest scotland from

this low pressure and this area of low pressure and this area of low pressure and this weather but high this weather fronts, but high pressure across the pressure dominating across the south. add a bit of mist south. it'll add a bit of mist and fog first thing and still a fair of cloud around in some fair bit of cloud around in some areas. but generally turning sunny midlands, sunny now across the midlands, eastern england . a eastern and southern england. a few showers over few scattered showers over central and southern scotland, but persistent rain as the but more persistent rain as the winds up across the winds pick up across the highlands and the western isles of scotland. temperatures here in the high teens, but head further south. we're getting into the 20s, mid 20s across the south—east, 26, possibly even 27 celsius. a few more showers this evening, perhaps parts of wales and then northeast england could see a few and the rain will push in across scotland and northern ireland overnight, tending to ease off as it does so. but nevertheless, a fairly damp and blustery night here across the south. it stays dry and everywhere pretty warm nights, temperatures holding up 15 or even 16 c in some urban areas . even 16 c in some urban areas. on to tuesday, a bit of a mess again, generally speaking, dry and sunnier across the south, more cloud further north. a few

more cloud further north. a few more showers tomorrow for wales and northern england and more to come across parts of scotland . come across parts of scotland. although the highlands and the western a little western isles tending a little dner western isles tending a little drier again, the sunniest skies will the south will be across the south and that's top that's where the top temperatures once more . temperatures will be once more. getting

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