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address. first of all, tamsin roberts with your news as . both. roberts with your news as. both. >> thank you and good morning from the newsroom. 931 judges will be given new powers to force convicted prisoners to hear their sentencing gb news can reveal the government is introducing a multifaceted initiative to stop criminals like lucy letby from refusing to go to court. as a result, like lucy letby from refusing to go to court. as a result , the go to court. as a result, the serial baby killer didn't have to listen to impact statements from her victim's parents. judges will be able to order convicted criminals into the dock and force them to leave if they're disruptive. prison officers will be able to use reasonable force to make them attend, including handcuffing them. the plans will be unveiled in the king's speech in november 15. new free schools are set to open up in parts of the country, providing more opportunities for local young people. the government's announced the schools will open in areas where

education outcomes are weakest. free schools are funded by the government but run by other organisations. most commonly academy trusts and also businesses and universities . it businesses and universities. it comes as the collaboration between eton college and an academy trust will create three free schools in dudley , free schools in dudley, middlesbrough and oldham labour is warning the economy is stuck in a low growth trap under the conservatives. analysis from the opposition predicts uk growth to be the slowest and out of the g7 countries in 2024. shadow treasurer, treasury minister tulip siddiq says low growth has become the hallmark of rishi sunaks time in power. the bank of england has downgraded the economic growth forecast . from economic growth forecast. from 0.75 to 0.5% using mri scans to screen for prostate cancer could save lives, a new study has found . scientists from found. scientists from university college london, its

nhs foundation trust and king's college london have found that using mris could reduce deaths from the disease significantly . from the disease significantly. prostate cancer is the most common cancer found in men . common cancer found in men. well, you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com. now back to andrew and . bev andrew and. bev >> good morning. thank you very much for joining >> good morning. thank you very much forjoining us. it's 933 on much for joining us. it's 933 on tuesday now judges will be given explicit powers to force convicted prisoners to attend sentencing under multifaceted legislation to be included in the king's speech. gb news can exclusively reveal. and of course , it comes after the great course, it comes after the great controversy after lucy letby flatly refused to face families in court yesterday where she was handed multiple life sentences as she's one of only three women. >> given a full life term, was branded a coward for remaining in her cell.

>> so now the mother of olivia pratt—korbel is joining the calls for criminals to face their victims in court. a year on from her daughter's awful murder. take a listen. >> it's important for the families of my personal experience writing . the impact experience writing. the impact statement was really hard. it wasn't it didn't take minutes . wasn't it didn't take minutes. it was days over a matter of weeks . um, and it's important weeks. um, and it's important for the offenders to listen to the pain that they've caused , the pain that they've caused, the pain that they've caused, the pain that is ongoing. my whatsername of going to prison is supposed to be a rehabilitation . that first port rehabilitation. that first port of call of rehabilitation should be in that courtroom .

be in that courtroom. >> if you remember olivia was shot in the home as a criminal, ran through the house with a gun one evening in pursuit of somebody else. well awful story. let's cross live to westminster now where gb news political editor chris ryhope has more on this story. what's been the developments , chris, since developments, chris, since yesterday ? well the government's yesterday? well the government's been looking for a while, hasn't it, bev, to try and make criminals face the music, face their sentence and face their victims and listen to those harrowing victim impact statements , which lucy letby statements, which lucy letby didn't do yesterday . didn't do yesterday. >> instead, she get sent them in prison because she refused to come out from cells. there's come out from the cells. there's new measures in in the new measures coming in in the king's . that's when the king's speech. that's when the government sets out its plans for laws over the next for laws over the over the next penod for laws over the over the next period before the election. it's going attached to the going to be attached to the crime and justice bill. it measures to which will allow judges explicit powers to order criminals to attend sentencing in handcuffs if necessary. pfison in handcuffs if necessary. prison officers can use reasonable force . this will be

reasonable force. this will be set out in law. the judges can even bring in experts to assess whether the prisoner is allowed or should be allowed for their own mental health or whatever to stay below decks below the court. the idea is to try and put victims front and centre put the victims front and centre of it's not of this process so it's not beyond time . labour, of course, beyond time. labour, of course, correctly saying why has it correctly been saying why has it taken so long? the government says, well, there's competing priorities you're priorities if you're in government. think the government. but i think the letby conviction yesterday has brought this into sharp focus . letby conviction yesterday has brought this into sharp focus. i think we'll get some think finally we'll get some action here from the ministry of justice. chris there's been an awful don't mind me awful lot, if you don't mind me using hand—wringing using expression, hand—wringing over are they going to over this, how are they going to possibly the guilty possibly get the guilty person into the dock? >> what they there's >> what if they protest? there's a range of options. they could use a taser on them. they're legal. they're legal in the war against crime. why why is the government and has the government, if you don't mind , government, if you don't mind, taking quite so long? because it appears to me this is all appears to me that this is all about humouring the guilty person rather than honouring the wishes of the families of the

victims . well certainly in any victims. well certainly in any of these cases, the victims should be at the centre of it. >> what after someone's been convicted, is how they how they can get some kind of closure to use that dreadful american word of happened . alex schalk, of what's happened. alex schalk, the justice secretary, has been trying since this spring to do this to amend this. he tried to amend something called the victims and prisoners was told by prisoners bill. he was told by lawyers government lawyers, that was out of scope of that legislation. to come legislation. so he had to come to the next one often with legislation. andrew, well legislation. andrew, as you well know, like sausage know, it's like a sausage machine. have try and machine. you have to try and latch to something goes latch on to something as it goes through measure through and make that measure become way. they've now become law that way. they've now got vehicle. lining become law that way. they've now gotin vehicle. lining become law that way. they've now gotin the ahicle. lining become law that way. they've now gotin the king's lining become law that way. they've now gotin the king's speech..ining become law that way. they've now gotin the king's speech. ifing become law that way. they've now gotin the king's speech. if the up in the king's speech. if the amendments can't be attached to the the the crime and justice bill, the government bring in a government then will bring in a standalone of legislation. standalone piece of legislation. as we heard from keir starmer just yesterday , labour are quite just yesterday, labour are quite clear they would support it so it wouldn't be a political row, it wouldn't be a political row, it wouldn't be a political row, it would go through pretty quickly on the quickly and it should be on the statute books by next summer. >> extent , chris, do you >> to what extent, chris, do you think this case has forced the

government's hand in this regard? because there will be parents like olivia pratt—korbel mother and father who are saying, well, this should have happened a long ago now happened a long time ago now you're just reacting to public opinion . but i think you make opinion. but i think you make a very good point there. >> i think there is a sense that the government has allowed this to slip, but i think there is an attempt they recognise the attempt now they recognise the angen attempt now they recognise the anger, this case. attempt now they recognise the an�*course, this case. attempt now they recognise the an�*course, these this case. attempt now they recognise the an�*course, these theseis case. attempt now they recognise the an�*course, these these charges of course, these these charges go back 2015, against go back into 2015, 2016 against letby . and so they weren't sure letby. and so they weren't sure when it was going to what was going to happen. it wasn't really clear she wouldn't come up there's a feeling really clear she wouldn't come up there's there's a feeling really clear she wouldn't come up there's a there's a feeling really clear she wouldn't come up there's a describedfeeling really clear she wouldn't come up there's a described to ling really clear she wouldn't come up there's a described to me that there's a described to me as copycat erg in the sense that when thomas cashman didn't attend the sentencing of olivia pratt—korbel, you saw her mother there on your clip there giving very, very painful and difficult statement to you on camera there and in a sense, they want to nip this in the bud. it hasn't been an issue really until now. and they wanted to stop any future

serious cases, convicted criminals, from doing this. the problem they've got is in the most serious cases of which letby is definitely one, they have got a sanction to give to two years more on the jail sentence for contempt of court. but if you're serving multiple life sentences, if you will never see the light of day again, letby can't be given that. so they're trying find that. so they're trying to find ways to deal with ways and measures to deal with it. and also, i should say also, there's measure to these there's a third measure to these plans would would plans that they would they would allow also to order allow the judge also to order the removal of a convicted criminal from court if they're using their presence to intimidate or to mock the victim. so it goes both ways. the point is to give explicit powers to judges take action. powers to judges to take action. >> very briefly , chris, >> just very briefly, chris, could judges also to could the judges also say to that person who's refusing to go into than into court rather than physically at the physically force them up at the point a taser? right. you're point of a taser? right. you're going lose your visiting going to lose your visiting rights, all sorts of privileges can you that can disappear. do you think that will be included in whatever alex to take to alex chalk is going to take to the in king's speech ? >> 7- >> it's 7_ >> it's early ? >> it's early days and 7 >> it's early days and we're still two months out from the

queen's speech on november the 7th. certainly they are looking at some measures like robert buckland news said last buckland on gb news said last week, into week, why can't they pipe into the ? the judge's comments, the cell? the judge's comments, the cell? the judge's comments, the victim impact statements. of course, if that happened, then the criminal would try and block it off or or make noise or trying to trying to almost so they couldn't hear what was being said to them. but there are are measures like that are there are measures like that that can looked the that can be looked at. the government quite clear. they government is quite clear. they i last that they i was told last night that they want the french model want to look at the french model in this doesn't happen. in france. this doesn't happen. so they're take the so they're trying to take the idea the french. it's idea from the french. it's nothing with rights. nothing to do with human rights. it's basically a way of forcing people do wrong to face the people who do wrong to face the music i that anyone music. and i think that anyone really across the political spectrum would applaud that. >> gb news, >> okay. thanks, chris. gb news, political editor there. christopher hope i'm still i still can't practically see how you can manhandle someone into court . court. >> i do very easily. you taser them, but they're refusing. but them, but they're refusing. but the taser them, you you put them in handcuffs , you put them in, in handcuffs, you put them in, they get them into court. they get them out of the police . they

get them out of the police. they get them out of the police. they get them out of the police. they get them out of prison. they get them the police van, of them into the police van, out of them into the police van, out of the into into the police van, into court, into the police van, into court, into the box. is it so the witness box. why is it so difficult why is sentencing difficult and why is sentencing being separately to being treated separately to the rest of a trial? it's an rest of a of a trial? it's an integral part of and it integral part of it, and it should same. but should be treated the same. but i you're putting that i guess you're putting that system would put a prison officer at risk of potential violence . violence. >> it's all very well, if it's they are every day if it's lucy letby, but if it's a six foot four. >> so there are four prison officers in violence, though, can't it, against people who are working to keep prisoners? justice has to be seen to be done. and no more so than by the victims of murder. done. and no more so than by the victims of murder . jurors and victims of murder. jurors and rapists like lucy letby. they have to be it has to be seen to be done. >> let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com now joining us dr. amanda who us next is dr. amanda lee, who is neonatal nurse and is a former neonatal nurse and senior in adult nursing senior lecturer in adult nursing . good morning. you described the life of a neonatal nurse as emotion , highly charged, complex emotion, highly charged, complex , but also a privilege . it's , but also a privilege. it's quite shocking, really, isn't

it, the way in which lucy letby abused that privilege . abused that privilege. i absolutely agree . absolutely agree. >> i'm personally i'm absolutely appalled by what i've read and what i've heard about lucy letby about the whole trial. um i'm old enough probably to remember the days of her counterpart as well. beverley allitt . and you well. beverley allitt. and you know , this shocks the whole know, this shocks the whole profession to a core nursing is about establishing trust with the community, with the public, with everybody . um, and i think with everybody. um, and i think we're all reeling from what's gone on, what's shocking us a lot as well. >> amanda and it shouldn't i suppose, but when you look at photographs of her, she is the picture of innocence. everybody talks about what a sweet natured woman she was. we even know in her home she had lots of teddy bears on her bed. all these photographs of children making it all the more shocking for us, but more so for the

but much more so for the families of the babies she murdered and attacked . murdered and attacked. >> i think the thing that you need to realise when you're a neonatal nurse and when you're working in those sorts of areas , you sit day after day, after day at a bedside with parents and their little cherished loved ones, and you establish such relationships . what you do at relationships. what you do at home, you it's, i don't, i don't know. but what i would say is that you're trying to establish those relationships. the trust and the compassion that you have for those babies is there . and i for those babies is there. and i don't understand how anything to don't understand how anything to do with home would would would affect anything. i don't know. having teddies on bed is having teddies on your bed is not any not going to make any difference. 33 year old woman difference. a 33 year old woman with teddies her bed. i'd be with teddies on her bed. i'd be wondering that's slightly wondering that that's slightly different in itself. i don't know . know. >> part of the job. amanda is for a neonatal nurse will sit by

the bed of the baby. that's sick , looking for signs, looking for a deteriorate , looking maybe for a deteriorate, looking maybe for an improvement. so they can, as part of their job, is to try and get them better . that's right. get them better. that's right. >> and you have to look for the smallest of cues. so i remember sitting by a bedside with a few of the babies that i've looked after and you look for little cues like a little tiny wince, a tiny drop in blood pressure finger splaying different behavioural cues as well that really alert you to signs of deterioration . and in many in deterioration. and in many in many ways , you know, you have many ways, you know, you have this relationship with the consultants and the medics on the ward as well where you can sort of say, i'm not happy with that baby. and you that that baby. and you know that when neonatal pretty when a neonatal nurse is pretty established and knows what they're you they're talking about, you believe and, you believe those nurses and, you know that they've picked up on some these minor some sort of these minor cues that's on. that's going on. >> and amanda, just because it's difficult, if we don't have a sort of clinical understanding of that setting and how these babies died and how is it

possible ? well, and this is this possible? well, and this is this sounds like a naive question, but how is it possible to know that it was deliberate murder as opposed to medical negligence of just not being good at your job? just not being good at yourjob? what's the what's the line there 7 what's the what's the line there ? you're watched your your work as a team . as a team. >> um, you know, when i started neonatal nursing, i wasn't on my own for a long time. i had to do post—registration postgraduate qualifications and courses . um, qualifications and courses. um, you've got people overseeing you all the time. and then even when i moved to becoming an advanced neonatal nurse practitioner, you know, there were working know, there were we were working as team , everybody around as a team, everybody was around mistakes as in any walk of life can be made. but you learn to identify those mistakes, work on them, and, and, and act accordingly. we all work under the nursing and midwifery council. we have a code of conduct and we have to offer that professional competence is to be able to deliver the care that we want.

>> so how was she missed then? >> so how was she missed then? >> if she was being watched so closely and working a team, closely and working as a team, who the ball in who else dropped the ball in that environment and didn't have an eye on her? >> i don't think it's for me to start looking at apportioning any blame to anybody, and i can bet your bottom dollar that every single member of that nursing team and the medics and everybody be asking exactly everybody will be asking exactly that question. >> we i've got no answer . okay. >> we i've got no answer. okay. >> we i've got no answer. okay. >> all right. dr. amanda , thanks >> all right. dr. amanda, thanks for joining us, former neonatal nurse. and of course, senior lecturer in senior lecturer. of course, that's going to be part of the inquiry because, of course, we know that doctors who were watching suspected her. were watching her suspected her. they alarm and they they raised the alarm and they were off by the were told to back off by the managers who were not medical. and that was after three children babies, had died. children had babies, had died. it was only four more had it was only when four more had died they got the police. >> yeah, well, former liberal democrat baker democrat minister norman baker joins studio. good joins us in the studio. good morning. morning, norman. morning. good morning, norman. just on case just your thoughts on this case really overall? just your thoughts on this case reaiwell,erall? just your thoughts on this case reaiwell, there's always going >> well, there's always going to be girls whose be individual girls whose behaviour reprehensible,

behaviour is reprehensible, inexplicable, sadistic , inexplicable, sadistic, psychopathic. these people occur , fortunately, very many of them in society . so the issue is not in society. so the issue is not can we stop those people arising because they will arise? the issue is how is their action in identifying quickly to prevent the sort of systemic problems which have been caused in this particular case? and there are clearly serious questions for the management at the hospital. we know that doctors and others reported continually concerns about this particular person and nothing was done. and i've forgotten who it was. now, one of the former mps of one of my former colleagues suggested there should be issues of whether or not the hospital management is guilty of corporate manslaughter. yeah, so. 50. >> so. >> so this would then into what sort of inquiry do we get? norman the government says there is sunak is to be one rishi sunak preferred option is not a statutory one because it will be quicker. but if it's a statutory one, it'll be led by a judge who will have the power to compel witnesses who i think are and i

think they should that think they should do that because some of because they can compel some of those said no to because they can compel some of thordoctor said no to because they can compel some of thordoctor and said no to because they can compel some of thordoctor and consultants.o to because they can compel some of thordoctor and consultants. we the doctor and consultants. we don't want to pursue this. they should be in that inquiry. >> that. >> i totally agree with that. and say , i'm i'm well and i have to say, i'm i'm well aware of the limitations of a non—statutory inquiry. that was what we had with lord hutton and the death of david kelly. yes and we had key witnesses not called there. we had nobody under oath. the whole thing was called there. we had nobody uldisgrace. the whole thing was a disgrace. >> to adisgrace. » to a disgrace. >> to people who may >> just to remind people who may not that was in not remember that was in relation the war. relation to the iraq war. >> that the iraq war. david >> that was the iraq war. david kelly, the weapons inspector, was found on harrowdown hill, dead. was found on harrowdown hill, dead . you would normally have dead. you would normally have a coroner's inquest actually just he would he had been identified as the source of a bbc report suggesting that the government, in the form of alastair campbell, had sexed up the dossier, making the case for war. so rather than the coroner's on coroner's inquest on that particular a particular occasion, which is a statutory a statutory process, we had a non—statutory inquiry which actually time actually spent most of the time looking had done looking at what the bbc had done rather anything else. so these non—statutory inquiries, frankly, aren't worth time frankly, aren't worth the time that take. you either. that they take. you either. don't bother or you have a

proper inquiry and actually it's okay prime minister, say okay for the prime minister, say speed is of the essence. >> no, isn't the essence here speed is of the essence. >:the», isn't the essence here speed is of the essence. >:the facts.1't the essence here speed is of the essence. >:the facts. the1e essence here speed is of the essence. >:the facts. the truth;ence here speed is of the essence. >:the facts. the truth .nce here speed is of the essence. >:the facts. the truth . we here speed is of the essence. >:the facts. the truth . we want is the facts. the truth. we want to get to the bottom of it. we want to know if these managers thought the reputational damage to more to the hospital was more important than potentially getting nurse of getting a killer nurse out of the way. >> we see e we see and again >> well, we see time and again that management, looser that that management, looser sense very keen to protect sense is very keen to protect reputations of institutions . reputations of institutions. look at the catholic church and the whole issue of child sexual abuse years where the abuse over the years where the reputation church reputation of the church apparently the apparently came ahead of the children were being abused. children who were being abused. a statutory inquiry did not take years. it's not sunday. yeah, exactly. it could be done in 3 or 4 months. >> yeah. can i ask you, as a former lib dem, you be former lib dem, you might be taking a bev turner view here because bev and i are disagreeing this. i would disagreeing about this. i would have in court come have the person in court come what may. so i. who is what may. so would i. who is convicted. guilty and who convicted. how guilty and who cares you them ? cares how you get them? >> got he's got them in >> he's got he's got them in a hannibal lecter if hannibal lecter tasered if necessary if they are there as a part a legal proper process part of a legal proper process in a democracy. >> see, they've been charged to have to court. was

have been taken to court. was the sentencing been separated from exactly. they're from it? exactly. they're required to be taken to court to hear charge and to appear. required to be taken to court to hethey charge and to appear. required to be taken to court to hethey don'trge and to appear. required to be taken to court to hethey don't appear, to appear. required to be taken to court to hethey don't appear, they're ar. if they don't appear, they're taken and they taken there by force and they should be there hear the should be there to hear the sentence , whatever it is. and sentence, whatever it is. and i've got no sympathy with the idea excuse escape idea that they can excuse escape in cell . and we see the in their cell. and we see the front pages of the paper today, the from the parents the horror from the parents about want it to feel about i don't want it to feel like i'm being liberal than like i'm being more liberal than the democrat, but what? the liberal democrat, but what? >> dem. well >> he's still a lib dem. well yes, a lib dem. yes, ex—mp still a lib dem. >> but what how do you do that? because you're asking. you're basically going to be asking prison officers to manhandle. >> will they do that all the time? >> they do. they do it in prison all the time. when people freeze to come out of cells to go to come out of their cells to go to come out of their cells to go to they're going to, to wherever they're going to, but them into but then taking them into a court situation, which is calm and reverential, somebody that might the might be railing against the system intention is to system is the intention is to make this better for the victim and victim's family. and the victim's family. >> but if that perpetrator, then stands court and uses that stands up in court and uses that opportunity shout opportunity to shout at the victim victim's family victim or the victim's family saying, i would do again, saying, i would do it again, i have that doesn't

have no regrets, that doesn't help going to help them at all. it's going to make worse . make it worse. >> well, the judges >> yes. no. well, the judges judge ought to be capable of deaung judge ought to be capable of dealing that situation dealing with that situation as and but what and when it arises. but what does that well, it a does that mean? well, it means a judge can can require them to be to again. judge can can require them to be to if again. judge can can require them to be to if that's again. judge can can require them to be to if that's so, again. judge can can require them to be to if that's so, then 1. judge can can require them to be to if that's so, then what's the point? >> because most of them won't do that. them will actually that. most of them will actually be probably my guess be there and probably my guess will face face will be quiet and just face face the court or hear what's been passed. >> judge passed. >> sir judge you carry passed. >> sir or judge you carry passed. >> sir or madam you carry passed. >> sir or madam , you carry passed. >> sir or madam , you'rer carry passed. >> sir or madam , you're going on, sir or madam, you're going to be gagged. simple >> yeah, why not? they have to be there to hear the sentence. that's the bottom line. and as far i there, if he takes far as i get there, if he takes four prison officers to four burly prison officers to carry court, then. carry him to the court, then. >> otherwise it's their >> because otherwise it's their rights. if this blimming killer is the rights is being put before the rights of the person would be happy of the person who would be happy for a british court to have somebody literally be there. >> if necessary with a gag >> yeah, if necessary with a gag on a mask. orange if on and a mask. orange if necessary. >> i would, because it's very important that the person who's charged there to hear the charged is there to hear the sentence . important. it's charged is there to hear the seressential important. it's charged is there to hear the seressential partnportant. it's charged is there to hear the seressential part ofortant. it's charged is there to hear the seressential part of democracy an essential part of democracy and the victim statements. >> remember the >> and if you remember the victim do not

victim statements do not influence judge the influence the judge because the judge their decision judge has made their decision on the sentence already. but the victim's of victim's statements is part of the literally having the victim literally having their and justice has to be their say and justice has to be seen to be done. and they should seen to be done. and they should see precisely killer or rapist, whoever it is in the dock. >> precisely. and by the way, i just up on the point, chris just pick up on the point, chris hope your hope made on your on your package moment this could hope made on your on your packibeen moment this could hope made on your on your packibeen done ant this could hope made on your on your packibeen done months this could hope made on your on your packibeen done months ago. could hope made on your on your packibeen done months ago. could have been done months ago. could and i'm getting fed up with the government there's not government saying there's not enough parliamentary time. the commons finishes has finished early day the last year early every day in the last year . i know, and they've used this excuse and again. we're excuse time and again. we're told we can't have legislation on railways, on on great british railways, for because there's no for example, because there's no time. all parties agree time. the all parties agree on that legislation. >> be a sentence, >> it could be a one sentence, a one sentence bill. >> want hear i'd like >> we want to hear it. i'd like tougher less tougher sentences. i'd like less luxurious not luxurious prisons. but i'm not convinced that we can work out the way getting all the way she's getting all liberal on us. no. >> can we? we. >> can we? can we. >> can we? can we. >> can we? can we. >> can we have a quick word? >> can we have a quick word? >> washy. >> can we have a quick word? >> while washy. >> can we have a quick word? >> while i'mhy. >> can we have a quick word? >> while i'm being all womanly >> can we have a quick word? >> iwishyi'm being all womanly >> can we have a quick word? >> iwishy washy,1g all womanly >> can we have a quick word? >> iwishy washy, canll womanly >> can we have a quick word? >> iwishy washy, canll whave|ly and wishy washy, can we have a quick on menstruation? quick word on menstruation? >> wishy washy. just >> women are wishy washy. just this one's being wishy washy. >> women are wishy washy. just thisliberalbeing wishy washy. >> women are wishy washy. just thisliberal democrats! washy. >> women are wishy washy. just thisliberal democrats want1y. >> women are wishy washy. just thisliberal democrats want us to >> liberal democrats want us to believe menstruation is not believe that menstruation is not merely issue.

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women, things have taken a very strange turn. >> 5 strange turn. >> a great first >> but that was a great first half hour. thank you, norman. let what you think. let us know what you think. still come, more making defenders. >> this is britain's newsroom on gb news. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good morning, alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. another pretty warm one in the south. once the morning mist and low cloud has cleared away further north, there is more than yesterday more cloud than yesterday and we're going to see a few more showers well. parts of showers as well. parts of northern north northern england, north wales and central and southern scotland wetter day scotland certainly a wetter day compared to yesterday. a few showers still across northwest scotland, but generally the showers will fade, so turning a bit drier come the afternoon. the easing , though it is the winds easing, though it is quite breezy this morning. not too over the too many showers over the midlands or south many midlands or south wales, many places across southern places here and across southern england staying dry and fine and turning the turning sunnier through the day as as well. as well. warm as well. temperatures to 26, 27 temperatures up to 26, 27 degrees. north it

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crossings. >> 800 people made the journey across the english channel in small boats yesterday . this small boats yesterday. this smashed the previous record of 755 in 1 day earlier this month, dodi remains on red alert today for more boats . for more boats. >> fat cat pay bosses at britain's biggest firm saw their pay britain's biggest firm saw their pay rise by almost 16% last yeah pay rise by almost 16% last year. they're earning 118 times the average worker pay and could we see a victory for vivek ramaswami ? ramaswami? >> at the first republican debate this week? he's the young biotech billionaire who surged in the polls. will get the very latest from america . latest from america. the very phrase biotech billionaire makes my blood run cold. to think of more power in his hand and how much money he's making. >> those talk that he could be. donald trump's running mate for the election. the presidential election. be clever course, clever move because, of course, biden's have a kamala

biden's going to have a kamala harris first woman of colour. yeah a man of colour. interesting. well that debate is on thursday. >> we'll be bringing to >> we'll be bringing it to all here on gb news. first of all, though, morning, let though, this morning, let us know thoughts. know your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email, but tamsin the . news there. >> thanks very much . good >> thanks very much. good morning from the newsroom. it's 10:01 judges will be given new powers to force convicted prisoners to hear their sentencing . gb news can reveal sentencing. gb news can reveal the government is introducing a multifaceted initiative to stop criminals like lucy letby from refusing to go to court yesterday , the serial baby yesterday, the serial baby killer didn't have to listen to impact statements from her victims parents. judges will be able to order convicted criminals into the dock or remove them if they're disruptive . prison officers will disruptive. prison officers will also be able to use reasonable force to make them attend, including handcuffing them. the plans will be unveiled in the king's speech in november. top

private school eton college is to open three free selective sixth form colleges in disadvantaged areas. the school along with an academy trust, will open schools in dudley middlesbrough and oldham. the department for education has approved 15 new free schools across the country where education outcomes are weakest . education outcomes are weakest. education secretary gillian keegan says the schools will create more opportunities for students to get into the best universities. eton actually initiated this and they worked with star academy that have got a lot of experience in the west midlands and the north of really turning schools around and they will provide support , will provide support, curriculum, support some financial support as well. >> and what it is , is it's 16 to >> and what it is, is it's 16 to 19. and so it's for those children who they want to try and get into the best universities because we know that still some of our best universities are still dominated by people who go to private

schools . schools. >> labour is warning the economy is stuck in a low growth trap under the conservatives . under the conservatives. analysis from the opposition predicts uk growth to be the slowest in out of the g7 countries in 2024. shadow treasury minister tulip siddiq says low growth has become the hallmark of rishi sunak's time in power. the bank of england has downgraded the economic growth forecast from 0.75 to 0.5. the institute for public policy research says the uk's migrant crisis is likely to be significantly worse by the next general election . the think tank general election. the think tank is warning that any incoming government faces a perma backlog of thousands of new asylum seekers needing long term accommodation and support. researchers warn that annual housing costs for the backlog could soar to over £5 billion after five years. the institute says there is only a very narrow window for government success

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legislation to be introduced. finally find plea in the king's speech. this is a gb news exclusive from our political ednon exclusive from our political editor, chris hope. >> that's right. this is, of course, because lucy letby, a neonatal nurse, refused to face the families in court yesterday where she was multiple where she was handed a multiple , multiple sentences and , multiple life sentences and branded a coward for remaining in her cell. >> well, joining us now is a consultant, forensic psychologist , consultant, forensic psychologist, dr. keri nixon. dr. nixon , morning to you . none dr. nixon, morning to you. none of us can really understand what was going on in lucy letby head. but if this woman was on your psychologist couch, what would you be asking her? >> i think that's a really important question and something that i've been seeing over the last couple of days. and i think we really need to be cautious is many so—called experts diagnosing lucy letby from afar when actually they're not very qualified to do so. and when you have an offender that comes into a prison or a psychiatric hospital , a prison or a psychiatric hospital, and i've worked in both of those environments , and

both of those environments, and particularly in offenders committed an act like this, there will be a long process involved . there'll be clinical involved. there'll be clinical interview. there'll be review of lots of documentation. there'll be tests and we be psychometric tests and we then do something called a formulation where we try to understand background understand all the background risk factors and what has led her to do what she's done and that will be a long process and it needs to be done by qualified people. so i think when people are from their are diagnosing her from their sofa television, sofa and talking on television, it's dangerous. are it's really quite dangerous. are her acts yes are her acts her acts evil? yes are her acts potentially psychopathic? yes. but we need to do that analysis before we can make that conclusion. so is it a bit simplistic, kerry, when the people saying, you know, she had a stable home, that doesn't appear to be any history of drug abuse or addiction or the kind of co—morbidities that you might think would sit alongside somebody that behaves in this psychopath like way. >> you're saying that it could be something else . what if we're be something else. what if we're not the product of our environment? what could it be

that would make somebody do this ? >> 7- >> she ? >> she still could be the product of environment because lots of things can go wrong. i've worked with with offenders that you know, i'd say that have had, you know, i'd say it's the majority of it's rare the majority of offenders i work with have had a very background. very difficult background. however, offenders however, there are offenders that have what looks like a very good, loving home. sometimes it can be that there's lots of control and that can lead to issues that can be personality disorder . and yes, there are disorder. and yes, there are genetic factors . so we do have genetic factors. so we do have people that , you know, there's people that, you know, there's the genetic factors and then the environment brings those those factors out. so this is what we need to explore. what was going on for her, what's been happening in her lifetime, what was happening when she was young. you know, all these factors. we know that she was ill and that was what ill as a child and that was what led her to want to be a neonatal nurse. so many things to unpick and explore. and we've got to be really careful how we do that . really careful how we do that. >> what be the purpose >> and what would be the purpose of because normally of that? because normally if somebody it's for

somebody in therapy, it's for their own good and there'll be people watching this saying, well , doesn't deserve to well, she doesn't deserve to understand what did, let her understand what she did, let her rot in her own psychosis, if you like. let her continue to be depressed and suicidal. don't help her understand her actions . what would you say to that ? . what would you say to that? >> i'd say actually , let's think >> i'd say actually, let's think about the victims here and the victims family. yes. she's going to be serving a whole life order. i think that was order. and i think that was really the right decision. however if that can be explored , applaud. and she then gives some answers that may help the families understand it's never going to give them the closure, as many of them have said, but it might give them some understanding as as to why. because that is the question that sends so many victims and their family is crazy is why did this happen? >> but if she is given if she's if she's talking to people like you, dr. nixon , in prison, she's you, dr. nixon, in prison, she's going to spend a lot of time in

solitary, i'm sure, for her own safety. how will that information she relays, if she ever does open up as to why she did it, will that will that information get to the information ever get to the families as potentially there are, you know, victim liaison officers? >> it may be. i'd hope so. in a case like this, often the information flow is difficult . information flow is difficult. obviously, when an offender is going to be released from prison, if it's a serious offender, the families are informed that most of the time , informed that most of the time, sometimes there's errors in that . but obviously she's not going to be she's going to spend her life in prison. >> so would would she have to consent to that information? would have to because would she have to say because the relationship between the psychologist the patient, psychologist and the patient, the client, if you like , is the client, if you like, is sacred and privacy underpins that relationship . so to break that relationship. so to break that relationship. so to break that trust , would she have to that trust, would she have to give her consent ? give her consent? >> oh, absolutely. when i'm talking about information, i'm not talking about the information that goes on between a psychologist and the offender thatis

a psychologist and the offender that is patient confidentiality. however there are it depends . i however there are it depends. i mean, she's going to be in prison. so it's slightly different compared to prison and psychiatric hospitals. but yes , psychiatric hospitals. but yes, the information that's shared between a patient and their psychologist confidential, psychologist is confidential, the judge said in the summing up , which, of course, she wasn't there , that evil . there, that she is evil. >> you've read a lot about this doctor nixon, and you've talked to lots of people, as you say, whether it's in hospital or hospital or prison. is even hospital or prison. is she even , view ? , in your view? >> i always pause when answering that question about anybody because as a psychologist, i don't like to say that a person is evil. the acts are evil. what they've done is evil. um but i have met offenders in my in my career that have that that aura of just absolute pure evil . of just absolute pure evil. well, in this case, i've not assessed her. i've not met her. the acts are so despicable evil.

i mean, babies and completely innocent babies . and to then innocent babies. and to then look families in the eyes after you've committed that type of crime, that act is evil. but i stop at the point of saying that anybody is inherently evil. >> all right. fascinating stuff. thank you, dr. kerry nixon there, consultant , forensic there, consultant, forensic psychologist . you see, that's psychologist. you see, that's where i'm not. okay with the prisoner having rights . i'm very prisoner having rights. i'm very happy for her to have the therapy to get to the bottom of it. but i don't think she should be allowed the confidentiality. i don't think she should have the keep that the right to keep that information from families. >> i'm sorry. don't think >> i'm sorry. i don't think she's at all. she's got any rights at all. i take a very hard line. interesting reading again into this. terrible this. of course, it's terrible about babies who were about the seven babies who were killed. of the other babies killed. some of the other babies she attacked ten others, paraplegic , because what she did paraplegic, because what she did to them so bad enough, the parents have all the guilt. but did we do enough? they have a paraplegic child on their hands because of what this woman did to their baby. >> and course, they're now

>> and of course, they're now investigations into dozens more cases, i believe that cases, hundreds. i believe that she might have worked on where babies lives were lost. now, former criminal and family law barrister and author helen fields joins us now. hi, helen . fields joins us now. hi, helen. good morning. good morning. can can you help? i don't have any audio. >> i don't know whether you can hear us or not. >> can you hear me? okay. we'll try and get helen back and we'll we'll have a look at what you've been saying this morning, because been because i know you've been getting involved in this. certainly want i certainly why we i want to i want find out from helen what want to find out from helen what this issue we've been this this issue we've been discussing. get discussing. how would you get people you people into court? how could you physically that? people into court? how could you phythisly that? people into court? how could you phythis is that? people into court? how could you phythis is an that? people into court? how could you phythis is an email here from >> this is an email here from john who says, i agree with you, andrew. lucy letby should have been into court. she's been dragged into court. she's lucky . years ago, the public lucky. years ago, the public would have strung her up the would have strung her up to the nearest tree. >> well , nearest tree. >> well, derek from dunfermline has said, can you imagine the impact on victims if the accused reacts saying la la la la, reacts by saying la la la la, shouting, laughing or sneering, you cannot force i contact you cannot force to listen in

cannot force them to listen in in the court, but you can force them into court and they we're trying to get to the bottom of when this because we've when this started because we've only become vaguely aware of it in the last year or so. >> of prisoners criminalising refusing. >> yeah. they're convicted . >> yeah. they're convicted. they're going to be hauled into court to be sentenced. they may have to face witness statements which are a relatively new phenomenon in themselves. they're there to influence they're not there to influence the the judge makes his the judge. the judge makes his or decision themselves. it's or her decision themselves. it's to allow the family really to have is so have their say, which is so important. so when did when did it start the jeff from leicester says norman baker's wrong. it's not part of our democracy for offenders to attend sentencing . offenders to attend sentencing. it's absolutely nothing to do with democracy . well, that's with democracy. well, that's jeff leicester's view. yeah jeff from leicester's view. yeah >> and another jeff said you missed the excellent point made by lady who drafted the by the lady who drafted the victim statement was victim statement and this was olivia mother olivia pratt—korbel mother earlier. the criminal justice earlier. if the criminal justice system rehabilitation , system is about rehabilitation, then rehabilitation with then rehabilitation starts with facing your sentence and hearing the victim statements. that is a

really good point. and actually it could be that, as we've just heard from that forensic psychologist that therapeutic psychologist in that therapeutic situation where they're trying to work why she did this, to work out why she did this, maybe that's where could maybe that's where she could be prevented at least. statement at least. >> also, course, >> and also, of course, sometimes the perpetrator of a hideous crime meets the victim's families in prison to talk about it, because that can be therapeutic for the families. >> richard tice on your side, take the prisoner into court like hannibal lecter. >> yeah, because hannibal lecter was a monster , a fictional monster. >> this is a real monster. i'm sorry . sorry. >> she's a monster character from silence of the lambs. of course. we're to going talk course. now we're to going talk to helen fields. we have actually managed to correct that line for criminal family line for a criminal and family law and now author. law barrister and now author. hi, can you help us hi, helen. can you help us out with you with this? how could you physically see get a criminal into the court to listen to their hearing without them causing violence or disruption ? causing violence or disruption? >> well, you know, i mean, there's already been talk that they can be handcuffed . that's they can be handcuffed. that's they can be handcuffed. that's the proposal, isn't it? and so i

think reality is that there think the reality is that there is a maximum amount of force that could possibly be used . and that could possibly be used. and i think all people who are convicted should have it explained to them that this is part of the process that they will go through as soon as they go into the criminal justice system and handcuffing and removing people from cells is obviously an option. the problem is that prison guards have to stop short of using force that could either really injure a prisoner or in fact, become a danger to those prison guards. there's more than just the prisoner to think about. there and then they will have to be brought into court. but of course, the other option is that we prisoners that we explain to prisoners that if they their they do not attend their heanngs they do not attend their hearings , that they will have hearings, that they will have certain privileges lost to them inside of prison . and this is inside of prison. and this is part of what they're expected to go through. and that might be something that we should think about. >> helen, see what the >> helen, i can't see what the problem be for prison problem would be for prison officers used officers who are used to deploying as our police deploying tasers as our police

officers. if there's a problem with the guilty party, remember, they are now guilty. they have been convicted by a jury. 12 people have convicted this person of tasering them to get them into court because that would subdue them . would subdue them. >> it would subdue them. but tasering is a last resort because it can cause all sorts of additional problems , not of additional problems, not least occasionally cardiac problems, that sort of thing. and we must be very careful about asking prison guards to actually inflict harm on people because that becomes very distressing for the prison guards and it becomes very difficult . and quite often difficult. and quite often people pass out when they're tasered or need additional time to recover. so that may not be the ideal, but to be quite honest with you, making this a normal part of our system, making this something whereby we have to prisoners, look, have to say to prisoners, look, you're going to attend court, that's the expectation. if you you're going to attend court, th.not, he expectation. if you you're going to attend court, th.not, you xpectation. if you you're going to attend court, th.not, you willtation. if you you're going to attend court, th.not, you will lose. . if you you're going to attend court, th.not, you will lose. youyou you're going to attend court, th.not, you will lose. you know, do not, you will lose. you know, you lose privileges for you will lose privileges for most prisoners. it doesn't apply here because is a whole here because this is a whole life order. most prisoners are keen to behave well because

otherwise they lose the prospect of early release and so on. and so there are things we can do . so there are things we can do. there are, you know, systems that we can set in order. but i think asking prison guards to knowingly , potentially hurt knowingly, potentially hurt people and there are ramifications from that. i completely understand the sentiment which is that we should have these people in court, but come what may. but it has to be a really carefully considered system first. that doesn't put too much pressure on our prison. >> you've been a family law barrister. you've also you're also an author, helen, have you ever , in your experience, come ever, in your experience, come across a case quite like this one? >> i've never dealt with a case this terrible. i think the reality , the facts speak for reality, the facts speak for themselves. there are very few barristers in england and wales who have dealt with a case like this. i have dealt with a case that's involved munchausen's syndrome by proxy. these are incredibly difficult cases because the psychology of this is not terribly specific and it

looks different. you know, sometimes with each person that you deal with. >> helen just explain what that is and why that might be relevant in this situation. >> so much like the beverley allitt case, which was the last nurse who was convicted of hurting people . munchausen by hurting people. munchausen by proxy is when somebody hurts someone else in order to get attention back to themselves . attention back to themselves. you know, there's a little bit of hero syndrome sometimes in there, sometimes it's just about, you know, somebody feeling completely lost and needing to get the attention of authorities a loved one a authorities or a loved one or a boyfriend or something like that. in this case, there that. and in this case, there were clear examples of letby wanting to get the attention for example, of a married doctor , example, of a married doctor, you know, wanting to have those those that that contact where she was reassured and told that she was reassured and told that she was reassured and told that she was a good nurse and it wasn't her fault . of course, we wasn't her fault. of course, we don't know how far back this goes. and obviously now there are looking at lots goes. and obviously now there another looking at lots goes. and obviously now there another incidents.)king at lots goes. and obviously now there another incidents. it'sg at lots goes. and obviously now there another incidents. it's prior ots of other incidents. it's prior to those that were involved in this so whether or not

this case. and so whether or not this case. and so whether or not this was all just about getting attention, know. attention, we don't know. because this goes back much because if this goes back much earlier , then there might be earlier, then there might be something different in the background here. >> thank you. helen fields >> okay. thank you. helen fields there, former criminal family law barrister and author. >> we missed a trick with the psychologist. what must be going through minds of these through the minds of these parents were at court every parents who were at court every day for nine months as an older couple, perhaps older little older parents to be well , i older parents to be well, i think the mother was only mid 60. she she looked older. but you would that process would age you. yes it would, wouldn't it? >> and have to remember this >> and we have to remember this family have living with family have been living with this crimes this for years. these crimes were between 2015 and 2016. so were between 2015 and 2016. so we were we were just contemplating how lucy letby appeared emotionless. well, she's had of time to get she's had a lot of time to get used this 6 or years to get used to this 6 or 7 years to get used to this 6 or 7 years to get used the fact that was used to the fact that this was this was down the line. this was coming down the line. that explain a little bit that might explain a little bit of but of her emotional reaction, but devastating of her emotional reaction, but devistating of her emotional reaction, but devi mean, who must wake up >> i mean, who must wake up every day and think, what did we what did wrong with our what did we do wrong with our child? she's monster.

child? because she's a monster. >> well, imagine they might be >> well, i imagine they might be the parents still the kind of parents who still believe that she's innocent at this stage probably keep believe that she's innocent at this going. probably keep you going. >> to come, sorry you going. >> now, still to come, sorry to tell you, dover on red alert. guess what? hundreds more. a record migrants record number of migrants crossed channel yesterday crossed the channel yesterday with gb news. britain's news channel. >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good morning . alex deakin >> good morning. alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. another pretty warm one in the south. once the morning mist and low cloud has cleared away there more away further north there is more cloud yesterday we're cloud than yesterday and we're going few more showers going to see a few more showers as parts of northern as well. parts of northern england, wales and central england, north wales and central and southern certainly and southern scotland. certainly and southern scotland. certainly a day compared to a wetter day compared to yesterday . a few showers still yesterday. a few showers still across northwest scotland , but across northwest scotland, but generally the showers will fade. so turning drier come the so turning a bit drier come the afternoon . the winds easing. afternoon. the winds easing. that quite breezy this that is quite breezy this morning. too many showers morning. not too many showers over midlands south over the midlands or south wales. many places here and across england staying

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this evening. gb news the people's channel. britain's watching young . it's 1026 with watching young. it's 1026 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so the one day record for migrant crossings this year has been broken. one thing that we're good at breaking records in area after 800 people in this area after 800 people made journey small boats

yesterday. it comes as the think tank, >> it comes as the think tank, the leaning think tank, the the left leaning think tank, the institute public policy institute for public policy research, warned the government's action government's lack of action failure should say actually on migration creating what's migration risks creating what's being called perma backlog . being called a perma backlog. >> let's get more analysis from our political correspondent olivia a perma backlog. olivia utley a perma backlog. what does that mean? >> so essentially the problem at the moment is we've got 130,000 migrants awaiting their fate, whatever that might be. so obviously the government would like to see them sent to rwanda. that isn't happening yet. their fate, 130,000. >> just to be clear, these are the these are who the ones these are people who are already in tessa are already here in tessa jowell, already here in barges, costing taxpayer £5 million costing the taxpayer £5 million a and the average waiting a day and the average waiting time to get your case heard. >> if you are a migrant who's come to britain illegally, is 450 days. so these people are here for sort of often. well over a year. and what the ipp is pointing out today, i mean , it pointing out today, i mean, it doesn't take much to point this out really , is that the rwanda out really, is that the rwanda scheme, even if it works as

planned , and that's a big even planned, and that's a big even if because at the moment it's still not yet through the courts and we haven't yet seen a single migrant being sent to rwanda as labour pointed more labour have pointed out, more conservative secretaries conservative home secretaries have been rwanda than than have been to rwanda than than actual and even if that actual migrants and even if that actually comes to fruition , even actually comes to fruition, even by the government's very, very optimist calculations, they could be sending 500 migrants to rwanda every month. but of course, we've had 800 migrants crossing the channel on monday. i mean, yes, that was that was the worst day we've had so far. but if during the summer months, we're migrants coming we're seeing 500 migrants coming a obviously there are a day, then obviously there are migrants here fast there migrants coming here fast there than we are sending them off to rwanda. government rwanda. even if the government scheme the ipp scheme works. and what the ipp have calculated is that at the moment housing for migrants is costing the taxpayer £3.5 billion a year, as if rwanda comes off and the government manages to send 500 migrants a month to rwanda , it will raise . month to rwanda, it will raise. to £5 billion a year in the next few years. and if, as the ipp thinks is quite likely, the

rwanda scheme doesn't work quite as the government is intending, and they only manage to send, say, to rwanda every say, 50 migrants to rwanda every month, then we can expect that bill to be £6 billion. >> astonishing. it's an abject failure, isn't it? and we had the prime minister yesterday admitting it, didn't this is admitting it, didn't he? this is one of his five pledges. can anybody remember the others? something halving something to do was halving inflation. going to inflation. he ain't going to stop by the next stop the boats by the next election. well, well, that's stop the boats by the next electi

top, top priority. and it could lose prime ministers to one lose prime ministers to say one thing another . thing and do another. >> as johnson discovered, >> as boris johnson discovered, it's not a good look with the voters. >> no. and the funny thing is that when rishi sunak came up with his five with his with his five priorities, i was watching the speech and everyone in the room priorities, i was watching the speesaying, everyone in the room priorities, i was watching the speesaying, well,one in the room priorities, i was watching the speesaying, well, that's the room priorities, i was watching the speesaying, well, that's easy,)om was saying, well, that's easy, isn't inflation is isn't it? i mean, inflation is going down anyway. of going to come down anyway. of course, are going to course, the boats are going to the boats are going start the boats are going to start slowing a bit of slowing down with a bit of legislation place. of legislation in place. and, of course, are course, the waiting lists are going to smaller you've going to get smaller when you've got covid and we're got the end of covid and we're going end of going to start seeing the end of that backlog. it seemed as that covid backlog. it seemed as though he set unambitious though he set pretty unambitious targets failing to targets and yet he's failing to meet them. targets and yet he's failing to meet might1em. targets and yet he's failing to meet might you might get >> you might you might get inflation. you inflation. there's some you might get inflation stick figures. the figures. if you look in the financial today core financial pages today about core inflation, they think inflation, now they think actually and the actually it is falling and the bank is now bank of england is now predicting might be able predicting that he might be able to halving inflation to reach halving inflation by the end of the year. >> and growth think, was one >> and growth i think, was one of one 5 or 1 out of five. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> maybe they get the growth target, getting target, possibly getting the growth but the growth growth target, but the growth target big is target itself, the big one is waiting boats. yeah. waiting lists and boats. yeah. and stop putting up and also stop putting up interest rates. bank england interest rates. bank of england

people . people can't afford it. >> right. thank you, olivia . >> right. thank you, olivia. i've sort of got nothing to say. it's so depressing, isn't it? right. to come, fat cat right. still to come, fat cat pay- right. still to come, fat cat pay. britain's biggest bosses are paid 118 times more. are being paid 118 times more. >> and fascinating fact about >> and a fascinating fact about the lionesses returning today, which will reveal all in the news bulletins. >> yes, don't go anywhere . >> yes, don't go anywhere. >> yes, don't go anywhere. >> thanks very much. it's 1031 >> thanks very much. it's1031 here in the headlines. >> thanks very much. it's1031 here in the headlines . judges here in the headlines. judges will be given new powers to force convicted prisoners to hear their sentencing . gb news hear their sentencing. gb news can reveal the government is introducing a multifaceted initiative to stop criminals like lucy letby from refusing to go to court yesterday . the go to court yesterday. the serial baby killer didn't have to listen to impact statements from her victims parents. judge will be able to order convicted criminals into the dock or remove them if they're disruptive. prison officers will also be able to use reasonable force to make them attend,

including handcuffing them. the plans will be unveiled in the king's speech in november. there are warnings the uk's migrant crisis is likely to be significantly worse by the next general election think tank. the institute for public policy research says any incoming government faces a perma backlog of thousands of new asylum seekers needing long term accommodation and support. researchers warn the annual housing costs for the backlog could soar to over £5 billion after five years as top private school eton college is to open three free, selective sixth forms in dudley , middlesbrough forms in dudley, middlesbrough and oldham . it will aim to and oldham. it will aim to recruit young people from disadvantaged communities . it's disadvantaged communities. it's after the department for education approved 15 new free schools across the country where education outcomes are weakest . education outcomes are weakest. it labour claims the economy is stuck in a low growth trap under

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investments that matter a so get this i can't believe it. >> actually, fans have missed out on welcoming back the lionesses after their world cup final defeat by spain . people final defeat by spain. people bought england flags and handmade banners at heathrow airport this morning, never airport this morning, but never got the team. went got to see the team. they went out the back door. >> oh, that's not good, is it? let's talk about that. terrible britain's. this is britain's newsroom

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britain's news. channel >> it's 1038 here with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so the one day record for migrant crossings has migrant crossings this year has been people been broken after 800 people made journey in small boats made the journey in small boats yesterday as the think tank institute for public policy research warned the government's lack migration risks what's lack on migration risks what's being backlog . being called a perma backlog. but have already talked about but we have already talked about that and we're going to talk about it to these two now as well. nigel emma well. nigel nelson, emma wolf, thank joining thank you very much for joining us. what do make of that? us. what do you make of that? record yesterday? us. what do you make of that? recwell, yesterday? us. what do you make of that? recwell, mean,'esterday? us. what do you make of that? recwell, mean, it'serday? us. what do you make of that? recwell, mean, it's the 1? >> well, i mean, it's the weather. every time the weather. yeah every time the government talks about the talks about, oh, we're controlling migration, the fewer boats are crossing the channel because there's a storm in it. the moment the weather gets decent, they come across . yes. and even they come across. yes. and even things like the deaths , the things like the deaths, the tragic deaths last last week , tragic deaths last last week, they don't act as a deterrent . they don't act as a deterrent. so all the things the government talks about are we can deter them by doing this or deter them by that. it doesn't happen. >> have we introduced our panel?

yeah they were here yeah i just said they were here with us. >> lovely. >> lovely. >> nigel nelson, our senior political commentator, emma , i political commentator, emma, i want talk to you about the want to talk to you about the football no football because, look, i'm no football because, look, i'm no football fan and the football was on on when i was was on on sunday when i was reading papers, but reading the papers, but there was interest in the fact was huge interest in the fact that girls came . am i allowed to that girls came. am i allowed to say you say say girls? you can say the lionesses runners recep lionesses were runners up. recep ation committee waiting for them ation committee waiting for them at this morning. yeah, they went out the back >> yeah, they went out the back doon >> how ungracious and how ungrateful of them to be sneaking out the back and not even bothering to meet their thousands of adoring fans. i mean, love and loyalty mean, they love and the loyalty and support that this and the support that this country has given them . yeah, so country has given them. yeah, so they arrived last days in they arrived last few days in terminal three at heathrow. >> so alex scott, who's one of the pundits, and of course, she was in the euro squad, i think was in the euro squad, i think was she is she retired by was she or is she retired by then? anyway she through then? anyway she came through then? anyway she came through the fans are all there and they start singing sweet caroline because know players because they know the players are to through. the are about to come through. the bags through . bags came through. >> parked all night i >> -- >> car park yeah they've been waiting 80 odd pounds, some of

them pounds for parking them 80 odd pounds for parking fees your car at the fees for parking your car at the airport players to airport to show the players to show our girls that love and support . support. >> now, i'm guessing you're going them the benefit going to give them the benefit of doubt at this point? of course. >> you? of course he is. >> are you? of course he is. >> all going to say >> well, all i'm going to say is, we go. is, here we go. >> we go. this one, nigel. >> here we go. this one, nigel. here it has to be a good here we go. it has to be a good reason for this. >> otherwise, emma's absolutely right. being ungracious right. they are being ungracious . being the only . yes, they are being the only reason can of where it reason i can think of where it might have to there might have to happen if there was a security issue . the was a security issue. the dangen was a security issue. the danger, is everyone danger, obviously, is everyone blames security everything. blames security for everything. if to do if they don't want to do something. but certainly that seems a bit unlikely to me . and seems a bit unlikely to me. and as far as if they're worried they're going to be mobbed at they're going to be mobbed at the you security they're going to be mobbed at the other you security they're going to be mobbed at the other end. u security they're going to be mobbed at the other end. so security they're going to be mobbed at the other end. so at security they're going to be mobbed at the other end. so at leastty they're going to be mobbed at the other end. so at least they can see their fans . can see their fans. >> so i think the thing is the numbers were airport, numbers were at the airport, were significant, but it's not not like they were going to be mobbed by thousands of people. >> i think were more say >> i think there were more say if were, because that's if they were, because that's terrific. of people. >> many people. >> how many people if the men's players can do open top buses, you major cities in these in

you our major cities in these in this country emma i think the girls i think the women can come through. >> i wonder if they're a bit sulking something. it may sulking about something. it may be might have been some be if there might have been some sort dispute normally sort of dispute about normally in situations it's in these situations it's something to do with sponsorship or wonder if they're on their or i wonder if they're on their way being whisked off quickly to downing prime downing street to meet the prime minister for those things minister for all those things are they'll meet are possible, but they'll meet and they'll meet the king too. are possible, but they'll meet ancbut y'll meet the king too. are possible, but they'll meet anc but thatneet the king too. are possible, but they'll meet ancbut that still the king too. are possible, but they'll meet ancbut that still doesn'tg too. are possible, but they'll meet ancbut that still doesn't stop. them. >> f— f doesn't. i mean, their >> no, it doesn't. i mean, their fans more important than the fans are more important than the prime minister. fans are more important than the prirandiinister. fans are more important than the prirandiinisterthey come >> and would they have come through fans if through and met the fans if they'd i don't. they'd won? i don't. >> i know. well, they'd >> i don't know. well, they'd have had to show. >> have been holding the >> they'd have been holding the trophy >> they'd have been holding the troglfy >> they'd have been holding the troglf you're watching at home >> if you're watching at home and one of those and if you were one of those people airport, this people at the airport, this morning, a family morning, or if you have a family member who was there, please let us know if you know a little bit more this story. gb views more about this story. gb views at email or at cbnnews.com is the email or you us gb you can tweet us at gb news. >> it's very disappointing when you think actually pr has you think actually their pr has been during this tournament. >> brilliant far. >> it's been brilliant so far. yeah why i'm really yeah and that's why i'm really surprised would surprised that they would make an goal this on the an own goal like this one on the way back. >> a goal, boom, boom. look this.

>> can i ask %efll em- this. >> can i ask did you watch >> can i ask you, did you watch the football? >> write. i was >> i didn't write. i was covering papers for this covering the papers for this channel, actually. very channel, actually. that's a very good so couldn't good reason. so i couldn't actually watch it. >> you have watched if >> would you have watched it if you had a time? >> no. i do love my liverpool, but do love football. but i do love men's football. i you know. done. you know. well done. >> girls are disappointed. >> the girls are disappointed. >> the girls are disappointed. >> watched didn't >> i watched it and i didn't even football. even like football. >> i saying do >> yeah i was i was saying do you football? you love football? >> don't know. >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> i just like football intensely. but watch when >> i just like football intense into ut watch when >> i just like football intenseinto major watch when >> i just like football intenseinto major games when >> i just like football intenseinto major games andn we get into major games and we're coming to end, the end we're coming to the end, the end of semi—finals, whether of it, like semi—finals, whether it's men's or the it's the men's game or the women's i do watch and women's game, i do watch and really enjoy it. >> i remember last year >> yeah, i remember last year watching final watching the european final when we penalties and my we lost on penalties and my partner i would watch at partner and i would watch at a friend's house. >> amanda patel's house >> it was amanda patel's house actually. walking actually. as we were walking home, me, now he home, he said to me, now he said, don't have watch said, we don't have to watch another we another football match, do we ever said, as we ever again? and i said, as we haven't in a final since haven't been in a final since 1966, the chances are not for a very time. very long time. >> then we are in another >> then here we are in another final. >> then here we are in another finebut think he watched a bit >> but i think he watched a bit of it. >> e- >> not much right. >> not much right. >> another big story of the day. we should talk football, lucy. >> yeah, segue >> okay. yeah, perfect segue way, think?

way, don't you think? >> we can. yeah. >> well, yes, we can. yeah. mason greenwood, manchester united. this is. united. so go on. so this is. this kid was accused this is the kid who was accused of sexual impropriety , of sexual impropriety, impropriety in some way , didn't impropriety in some way, didn't get the charges were dropped by by the accuser, who i think was a partner of his. but he's lost his job anyway at man united. >> yeah. so on the surface of it, it sounds unfair, but these were serious charges , attempted were serious charges, attempted rape, coercive behaviour or assault, actual bodily harm. so so they weren't minor charges, but they were dropped. he was never actually convicted of anything. however there. what, what manchet and united are saying is there's more to this than meets the eye. right. so that they've talked to him and by mutual consent they've decided it would be a bad idea for him to carry on playing for the club. >> there a video which >> there was a video which cast him very, very bad. him in a very, very bad. >> the video videos, the other point. i mean, quite simply point. but i mean, quite simply , have zero tolerance to , if you have zero tolerance to this kind behaviour , it this kind of behaviour, it doesn't matter about the charges or whatever. it be quite or whatever. it would be quite right that they would part

company. what do you think? >> this reflects pretty company. what do you think? >> on this reflects pretty company. what do you think? >> on manchesters pretty poorly on manchester united though, more though, because they were more than reintegrate him than ready to reintegrate him into squad and they were into the squad and they were happy that. they you know, happy to do that. they you know, goal all care goal scoring is all they care about, really. the sponsorship . about, really. the sponsorship. and the fact that it's and the fact is that it's pressure from women's groups, from have from campaigners that have i think, prevented them from from reintegrating him. >> yeah, this always >> yeah, because this always happenedin >> yeah, because this always happened in the last couple of days pressure days didn't it? the pressure overwhelmed days didn't it? the pressure overwheerhe charges have been >> okay. the charges have been dropped. read some of dropped. but if you read some of the text messages, the exchange between greenwood this between mason greenwood and this young lady, pretty, he was bullying her. pretty appalling. yeah yeah. violent. >> and they are role models. >> and they are role models. >> she recorded some audio, didn't she ? didn't she? >> she recorded audio. and >> she recorded some audio. and there pictures of facial there are pictures of facial bruising and injury and things like that. i don't think like that. so i don't think manchester united come out of this well. the charges this very well. but the charges have been dropped and footballers incredible role footballers are incredible role models, rightly wrongly. models, rightly or wrongly. >> i think why models, rightly or wrongly. >> clubs i think why models, rightly or wrongly. >> clubs should1ink why models, rightly or wrongly. >> clubs should have why models, rightly or wrongly. >> clubs should have a why models, rightly or wrongly. >> clubs should have a zerorhy the clubs should have a zero tolerance approach to any kind of behaviour like this . and of behaviour like this. and again, what is sort of reading between the lines here, because

we don't know exactly what the conversation was between mason greenwood and manchester united, but somewhere along that way they obviously both decided parting the ways was probably the best bet. so who gives him anotherjob? another job? >> bearing in anotherjob? >> bearing in mind no charges, but whatever it went on was deemed as so damaging for manchester united's brand he can't play again. yeah. will he go to saudi arabia where they don't care about things like that? >> well, it may well be that that'll future because that'll be his future because it's see how an english it's hard to see how an english club, major english club, club, a major english club, could him another job based could give him anotherjob based on this. >> wonder, because >> i wonder, though, because he's only 21 and these things die down quite quickly, given that no, you know, die down quite quickly, given thatcharges no, you know, die down quite quickly, given thatcharges were 0, you know, die down quite quickly, given thatcharges were dropped, ow, the charges were dropped, i reckon in a year or two, english clubs will come in for him. do you i think you really? he's only, i think he'll he'll go away. >> play somewhere >> he'll play somewhere else. they'll, they'll say oh he's grown he's learned grown up now, he's learned the error of his ways and he'll probably come back. yeah right. the biggest story that's on the front the papers, front pages of all the papers, nigel letby should she nigel lucy letby should she have had into court yesterday had to go into court yesterday to hear her sentencing and if so, how do you make that happen

exactly? >> she should she should have been yesterday. been been in court yesterday. however for making it happen in is much more difficult . however for making it happen in is much more difficult. i don't like the idea of some of creating some public spectacle of her coming in bound and gagged into the dock. i just don't see it serves any value. what i do like is that the former former attorney general robert buckland's idea to where you would have a if she doesn't if she refuses to come and you have a video link into the cell. so she must actually hear what is going on and the family and those in court can see what is going on. >> well, emma, you see, i would drag her into the court. i'm so whoever, whoever, whoever the guilty person, they have to admire don't understand what is the issue. >> i genuinely don't understand. i'm with you. please explain . i'm with you. please explain. what's of taking her what's the issue of taking her into ? you transport into court? you transport prisoners all the time to court. you transport them back to their cell. you make them go to the

showers . they don't have a showers. they don't have a choice that they're going to be locked in prison. locked up in prison. >> just it's >> no, but it's just it's disruptive disruption, disruption disruptive disruption, disibut on disruptive disruption, dlsi but the disruptive disruption, disibut the sentencing an >> but the sentencing is an integral she can be integral part if she can be brought in. integral part if she can be bro ight in. integral part if she can be bro i appreciate that. >> i appreciate that. >> i appreciate that. >> being removed and treated separately. key to the prosecution their case prosecution outlining their case to mitigation , i think i think to mitigation, i think i think it is a practical thing that if you i mean, you would literally if she if she intended to if she was if she intended to come in kicking and screaming, because happened, the because if that happened, the court to be cleared court would have to be cleared anyway, happened anyway, which is what happened with the killers of the families, would mess with the families, would mess with the families, miss out, you families, would miss out, you understand. and you drag her back in again. >> yeah . >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> i and you say you're >> i mean, and you say you're going to if got a full going to if you've got a full life sentence, you've got limited you limited sanctions. if you haven't life haven't got a full life sentence. visiting rights, sentence. no visiting rights, that's whole of if that's fine. a whole range of if somebody you can punish for it. >> so you can add extra years to their sentence. as you say, no visiting mean, her visiting rights. i mean, her case 14 whole life tariffs. i mean, she will never come out and she really will never come out prison. out of prison. >> there nothing no >> so there was nothing no visiting rights? well, it may >> so there was nothing no visiti be rights? well, it may >> so there was nothing no visiti be that s? well, it may >> so there was nothing no visiti be that thatell, it may >> so there was nothing no visiti be that that would nay >> so there was nothing no visiti be that that would have well be that that would have done that

done the trick that could that i'm going to see your or i'm never going to see your or any any privileges any or any privileges or anything like that. >> are ways actually >> those are ways of actually pressurising all pressurising them. but if all that work , you end up that doesn't work, you end up with situation of do let with a situation of do you let her her cell and not her stay in her cell and not hear or do you use the hear anything? or do you use the video link? will you have a couple of prison officers each side to make sure that she doesn't do anything? >> you're humouring horrible killer. >> f you're killer. >> you're humouring >> of course you're humouring her. in her. you just put her in handcuffs take into handcuffs and take her into court. scream she court. she can scream all she likes. completely likes. it's completely irrelevant her back irrelevant when you put her back in take back to in the van and take her back to prison lock her up and prison and you lock her up and you don't put her in a cushy. you don't her in lovely you don't put her in a lovely cushy with snacks cushy prison with with snacks and zoo and and apparently petting zoo and animals pet all of and apparently petting zoo and anim you pet all of and apparently petting zoo and anim you put pet all of and apparently petting zoo and anim you put her pet all of and apparently petting zoo and anim you put her inst all of and apparently petting zoo and anim you put her in a all of and apparently petting zoo and anim you put her in a concretef that. you put her in a concrete room with a with a sink and a basin, solitary confinement, solitary confinement. >> rights any >> no visiting rights in any way. >> visiting rights. >> no visiting rights. >> no visiting rights. >> she's parents in court >> she's her parents in court every never seeing every day. you're never seeing them into them again unless you get into them again unless you get into the principle i agree with. >> but you know, i'm with >> but as you know, i'm with nigel the practicalities. if nigel and the practicalities. if you think lawyers who you think about the lawyers who are there are getting are all in there are getting paid by the hour. and you would have families who have defendants and families who are the victims,

are paying by the victims, you're paying by the hour to be in and out and in and out and i mean, the people who killed lee rigby, they didn't want to go. and they did go and then they shouted. they screamed. they caused kerfuffle they got caused a kerfuffle and they got taken out again. so what do you do then? to be honest and bring them we need to take the them back? we need to take the focus off her. >> she's too much >> she's had far too much pubuchy >> she's had far too much publicity coverage and publicity and coverage and pictures at hindus pictures of her at hindus looking is an pictures of her at hindus lookinevil is an pictures of her at hindus lookinevil , is an pictures of her at hindus lookinevil , prolific is an pictures of her at hindus lookinevil , prolific child s an awful evil, prolific child killer. and we just to get killer. and we just need to get on it and think about and on with it and think about and make happen make sure this doesn't happen again reform the maternity again and reform the maternity system in this country and the killers who are killers of lee rigby, who are vile murderers, i think they've got i'm not sure if they've got a full life term. got i'm not sure if they've got a fill life term. got i'm not sure if they've got a fli can'tterm. got i'm not sure if they've got a fli can't remember. i'd have >> i can't remember. i'd have tasted that have tasted them. that would have shut up . would have shut them up. would have silenced tasers legal silenced them. tasers are legal , but what talking about, , but what you're talking about, andrew, there is a kind of pubuc andrew, there is a kind of public spectacle court and public spectacle in court and that that is the sort of fear that that is the sort of fear that that's allow a convicted killer to dictate the terms of a court proceeding . so i'm not court proceeding. so i'm not going to allow it. >> the problem is tasers sometimes people because

sometimes kill people because they get they cause they get they can cause a cardiac arrest, but you can't then risk. >> they take put prison >> they take put a prison officer's future in danger because they can then abuse that power . power. >> if you just take her into court, you just take her into court, you just take her into court the same way you put court the same way that you put her just treat her in prison. you just treat them prisoners, like them like prisoners, like criminals. >> you did taser her, i >> and if you did taser her, i think that would be an extraordinary thing to go and do. but anyway, if did taser do. but anyway, if you did taser her, wouldn't those her, she wouldn't hear those those victim impact statements anyway . anyway. >> wait for it to come round, give her a couple of valium . give her a couple of valium. >> well, you sort of throw a bucket water over her and bucket of water over her and yeah, to allow yeah, i'm not going to allow convicted rapist to convicted killers rapist to dictate the terms of a sentencing hearing. >> you are allowed >> but you are allowed circumstances, but you are allowed you prepared to allowed you are prepared to allowed you are prepared to allow to be turned allow a court to be turned into complete to ensure complete pandemonium to ensure the murder . the murder. >> young woman, what are you going to do? >> she can't cause that much pandemonium. >> well, she not be able to, >> well, she may not be able to, but you're a six foot four but if you're a six foot four weightlifter who's murdered someone are going put someone, are you going to put prison risk ? prison guards at risk? >> prison guards >> how do those prison guards get into their cells?

get them into their cells? every. but they're dealing with these day . these people every day. >> them. >> they take them. >> they take them. >> them, go and do >> they say to them, go and do this. go and out to the this. go and do go out to the prison yard. go out and go and have your food. go and have your shower. things shower. but that's things that they want to do. >> they're not going to they're they want to do. >> to ay're not going to they're they want to do. >> to ay'riniot going to they're they want to do. >> to ay'rin theirying to they're they want to do. >> to ay'rin their cellto they're they want to do. >> to ay'rin their cell atthey're not to go in their cell at night. >> the point is, she doesn't get a choice in this, okay? >> the point is, she doesn't get a cishe's n this, okay? >> the point is, she doesn't get a cishe's n this, away.? well, >> she's taken away. she's well, she's away life, but she's she's taken away life, but she's she's taken away life, but she's she overstepped by she has overstepped the mark by a considerable got no a considerable way. she's got no has no rights. >> none whatsoever. she's >> none whatsoever. well she's spending her life prison. >> so in that you would >> so in that regard, you would say justice . say that justice. >> who'd have thought bev turner has no has been served? no order. i chose don't. i just chose nato. i just don't. i just about the practicalities. >> i'm all about the practicalities. >> the northern girl in me. >> the northern girl in me. >> no, i think not just feeling really uncomfortable that he's on argument on the same side of the argument as on no. >> he's saying, on my god, there must be something here. >> he's saying, on my god, there mu no,a something here. >> he's saying, on my god, there mu no, i something here. >> he's saying, on my god, there mu no, i justathing here. >> he's saying, on my god, there mu no, i just i hing here. >> he's saying, on my god, there mu no, i just i just here. >> he's saying, on my god, there mu no, i just i just don't here. >> he's saying, on my god, there mu no, i just i just don't know. >> no, i just i just don't know how you can make it work. >> do >> in actuality. i'm also. do you what also i think you know what i'm also i think i'm think it's also about the i'm i think it's also about the emotion of those victims and those victims families in any crime, in any crime you want the victims families to be able to

put to bed and move on. and put it to bed and move on. and whilst there's all that rage and anger lack forgiveness, anger and lack of forgiveness, i mean, very hard mean, it'd be very hard to forgive in forgive people in that situation. i think that's situation. i don't think that's a healthy psychological place for those families be. if for those families to be. if you're of a crime, for those families to be. if you're you of a crime, for those families to be. if you're you have a crime, for those families to be. if you're you have to crime, for those families to be. if you're you have to be he, for those families to be. if you're you have to be able to somehow you have to be able to put to bed and think put it to bed and not think about person go to about that person and go to sleep and not have about that person and go to sleejperson and not have about that person and go to sleejperson in and not have about that person and go to sleejperson in yournd not have about that person and go to sleejperson in your headt have about that person and go to sleejperson in your head every that person in your head every single you just it was single night. so you just it was one of the victims, the parents of and b yesterday who of babies, a and b yesterday who said, never of you said, we will never think of you again. and i. >> exactly. >> w- 5 what i mean. >> and that's what i mean. there's been way too much coverage for the coverage of this woman for the last and also there last week or so. and also there was someone who said one of her doctor, there doctor, ravi, said there are children who should be children alive now who should be at school who never be at school who who will never be at school who who will never be at because they born at school because they were born 2015, 26, sorry, 2016. yeah and they didn't survive. >> that's what and also, >> and that's what and also, she's those those she's made some of those those babies never recover. >> you always remember that your baby been five would baby would have been five would have would been have been ten would have been starting know what starting school. you know what it's and it's noble thing for >> and it's a noble thing for mum, for mum to old age say i'm never going think of it never going to think of it again. fear she will. again. i fear she will. >> they'll their

>> yeah, they'll think of their baby. >> you're never going to actually your head, >> you're never going to actuaever, your head, >> you're never going to actuaever, ever. your head, >> you're never going to actuaever, ever. and our head, >> you're never going to actuaever, ever. and they'll d, >> you're never going to actuaever, ever. and they'll be ever, ever, ever. and they'll be a baby. >> that could baby. yeah. >> that could be my baby. yeah. it's you don't. it's all that you don't. >> are. >> and you are. >> and you are. >> most vulnerable >> it's the most vulnerable place you will ever be when you've given birth and have you've given birth and you have a don't know what a new baby, you don't know what they're nurse in, they're doing. a nurse comes in, they're doing. a nurse comes in, they them they poke they prod them and they poke them take their them and they take their temperature and they take them them and they take their temp�*for:ure and they take them them and they take their temp�*for:urbit.|d they take them them and they take their temp�*for:urbit.|d thythen> you do. >> of course you do. >> of course you do. >> that neonatal that >> and that neonatal that neonatal environment, those intensive units intensive care, neonatal units are special place. are a very special place. >> actually, they're doing the most so had most remarkable work. so i had a family member who who lost a child after they were born and so spent some time in those neonatal units. and those nurses are doing the work of another realm. you know, what they're doing, keeping these tiny little babies . so doing, keeping these tiny little babies. so for her to have sitting there, nurses sitting there for hours looking for a twitch something, some twitch or something, some of these would have these babies would have fitted in hand. in the human hand. >> that that small and >> you know, that that small and i it's extraordinary, isn't it? >> yeah. well, we had a lot more stories we didn't get to.

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it's 11 am. on tuesday, the 27th of august. this is this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so gb news exclusive judges will be given new powers to force convict prisoners to attend centre facing fat cat pay- >> britain's bosses . >> britain's bosses. >> britain's bosses. >> the plans will be unveiled in the king's speech in november.

fat, fat cat pay. >> britain's biggest bosses get a whopping rise now 118 times the average salary . time to tax the average salary. time to tax the average salary. time to tax the high earners even more is vivek ramaswami, the man that could end the former president's hopes of another shot at the white house. >> it could happen this week. we'll bring you the details . we'll bring you the details. quite jealous of christopher hope being out there in the sunshine. we have no no daylight in the dungeon here. let us know what it's like where you are. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address. first, though, here's tamsin roberts with the . news tamsin roberts with the. news beth , thanks very much. beth, thanks very much. >> good morning from the gb newsroom. at 11:01 judges will be given new powers to force convicted prisoners to hear

their sentencing . gb news can their sentencing. gb news can reveal the government is introducing a multifaceted initiative to stop criminals like lucy letby from refusing to go to court. yesterday the serial baby killer didn't have to listen to impact statements from her victim's parents. judge will be able to order convicted criminals into the dock or remove them if they're disruptive. prison officers will also be able to use reasonable force to make them attend, including handcuffing them . the including handcuffing them. the plans will be unveiled in the king's speech in november. there are warnings the uk's migrant crisis is likely to be significantly worse by the next general election think tank. the institute for public policy research says any incoming government faces a perm , a government faces a perm, a backlog of thousands of new asylum seekers needing long term accommodation and support. researchers warn the annual housing costs for the backlog could soar to over £5 billion

after five years. top private school eton college is to open three free selective sixth forms in dudley middlesbrough and oldham. it will aim to recruit young people from disadvantage communities. it's after the department for education approved 15 new free schools across the country where education outcomes are weakest. education secretary gillian keegan says the schools will create more opportunities for students to get into the best universities . universities. >> eton actually initiated this and they worked with star academy that have got a lot of experience in the west midlands and the north of really turning schools around and they will provide support , curriculum, provide support, curriculum, support some financial support as well. and what it is, is it's 16 to 19. and so it's for those children who they want to try and get into the best universities because we know that still some of our best universities are still dominated

by people who go to private schools. >> labour is warning the economy is stuck in a low growth trap under the conservatives. unless bons under the conservatives. unless boris from the opposition predicts uk growth to be the slowest out of the g7 countries in 2024. the bank of england has downgraded the economic growth forecast from 0.75 to 0.5. sir keir starmer says there's been a problem with growth the whole time. the conservatives have beenin time. the conservatives have been in power. >> know the government is going out pretending that everything is fine, but the mismatch now between what the government is saying that everything is fine , saying that everything is fine, it's all working well and the lift experience of people today , business people who are absolutely struggling, students who are having to work before they go to university because they go to university because they can't afford it, you know, single parents who told me that they worry every night about whether they can make ends meet. so think government so i don't think the government

is position to pretend is in a position to pretend that they're handling the economy well . well. >> former us president donald trump has said he'll turn himself in over another indictment in georgia. writing on his truth social platform, he said he was going to georgia to be arrested and referred to the charges as a witch hunt. he's charged with trying to overturn his 2020 election loss in the state. donald trump described the indictment as a politically motivated effort to derail his re—election campaign. the former president is the republican frontrunner in the 2024 us election . one using mri scans to election. one using mri scans to screen for prostate cancer could save lives. a new study has found. scientists from university college london and king's college london have found that using mris could reduce deaths from the disease significantly. the scans prove far more accurate at diagnosing cancer than the current blood tests . prostate cancer is the tests. prostate cancer is the most common cancer found in men

fans have missed out on welcoming back the lionesses after their world cup final defeat by spain . people brought defeat by spain. people brought england flags and homemade banners to heathrow airport this morning , with one group having morning, with one group having arrived last night. but it's understood the team left by a private exit after touching down just after 630. others brought flowers for head coach sarina wiegman , while others had made wiegman, while others had made homemade placards. fans spoke of their disappointment at missing their disappointment at missing the team . the team. >> it's absolutely it's you know, we came here to give them the hero's welcome. >> devastated because like , >> devastated because like, wanted to see like mary or like millie bright because they done extremely well in the world cup. we didn't realise how many fans but yeah we just expected them to come through, just cheer for them, just show them like how proud we are of them. >> so it's disappointing. >> so yeah, it's disappointing. >> so yeah, it's disappointing. >> gb news across the uk >> this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital

radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to andrew and . bev back to andrew and. bev >> good morning. it's 1106. >> good morning. it's1106. thank you for joining >> good morning. it's1106. thank you forjoining us >> good morning. it's1106. thank you for joining us this morning. our judges will be morning. ourjudges will be given powers to force given explicit powers to force convicted to attend convicted prisoners to attend sentencings under multi, multifaceted legislation to be included in the king's speech, gb news can exclusively reveal. >> so this is in direct response to lucy letby flatly refusing to face families in court yesterday where she was handed multiple life sentences. she's been branded quite right too, by the families coward families, a coward for languishing in her cell. >> well, let's cross live to westminster, where gb news political editor christopher hope has more on the story. good morning, chris. mean, in morning, chris. i mean, in principle, like principle, it sounds like a great as we've great idea, but as we've been debating morning, the debating this morning, the practicalities this must, of practicalities of this must, of course be very difficult. what course, be very difficult. what is there any detail in the powers that judges might be given ? well, that's a problem, given? well, that's a problem, of course, because you can't

have a defendant or a convicted criminal coming into court and then making a noise or trying to inqu then making a noise or trying to insult his victims or insult the court process . court process. >> so there's a limit to what you can do. but what the government is trying to do here is explicitly state in law what judges and the powers they've got. hope they can got. the hope is they can embolden to be quite embolden judges to be quite almost with guards and almost bossy with guards and say, look, if they're saying they can't come up for whatever reason, i want to see them in their handcuffs, them their handcuffs, i want them to reasonable get them reasonable force to get them into the dock. it's been quite a recent issue since the sentencing there of thomas cashman over over the murder of olivia pratt—korbel . since then, olivia pratt—korbel. since then, it's been more concerning in government that criminals have been trying to take the mickey out of the justice process. that's why it's an attempt to give judges is almost the confidence with some form of legal mechanism to make sure they can enforce or try and enforce offenders to come upstairs. course, they upstairs. of course, if they abuse can order them abuse that, they can order them downstairs it's downstairs again. but it's trying more trying to give them a bit more a bit more power for these judges.

>> chris, i can remember i wrote about this in the mail some months there was a great months ago. there was a great letter in the times from son letter in the times from a son of high court who of a former high court judge who just said it was very clear his father took simple view if the father took a simple view if the solicitor to say, my solicitor dared to say, my client's not coming for client's not coming up for sentencing, he'd he is and sentencing, he'd say he is and he'll coming up. chained with he'll be coming up. chained with with officers, prison with police officers, prison officers truncheons officers armed with truncheons as times changed. but as times have changed. but perhaps they've changed for the for wrong way. for the wrong way. >> yeah, i think that's right. i mean, they say there's a degree of copy. copy qatar to use the term i was given last night from other other serious criminals. you can be found in contempt of court by not turning up and get two more years added to your sentence. that makes no difference of letby, difference in the case of letby, who's got multiple life sentences. attempt at sentences. so it's an attempt at bringing ferguson, bringing back the ferguson, which should the which it should be on the victims. those heart rending victims. those heart rending victim statements read victim impact statements read out yesterday were were out in court yesterday were were not by lucy letby. they not heard by lucy letby. they will be sent to her so she can read them. but would she read them? idea of course, them? another idea of course, they're beaming in

they're looking at is beaming in they're looking at is beaming in the comments the judge or the comments from the judge or from victim from the victim impact statements into the cells statements into into the cells below so these below the court. so these criminals hear what's criminals have to hear what's being of course, they can being said. of course, they can then take action, maybe block their or try and muffle the their ears or try and muffle the speakers in those cells. so it's not easy, but it's really important. i think the government, government, you know, not before time is doing something about it. they they're talking about doing something back spring and didn't back in the spring and it didn't happen. they're happen. so finally they're getting act in getting getting their act in order. it's really exercising. >> people watching and >> people view watching this and listening the radio because listening on the radio because this is a classic email from paul who they should paul who says they should decorate, walls of decorate, decorate the walls of let be cell with the words of the victims statements the the victims statements and the judge's comments. it's an interesting idea, isn't it ? interesting idea, isn't it? >> yeah, totally. i mean, this this case has been different in the sense we don't know the names of the victims. they're all they're in an alphabet soup of letters, aren't they? so in a sense that the kind of face of these poor babies who were murdered coming out from newspapers pictures, we newspapers and the pictures, we haven't it makes it haven't got that. so it makes it almost important that

almost doubly important that letby up to her letby is meant to face up to her actions properly because in a sense, anonymity of the sense, the anonymity of the victims is totally understandable. but it mustn't be allowed to lessen the impact of her crimes. >> chris i'm interested in that phrase you used. copy cattery because i think that probably answers something that andrew because i think that probably ansvlzrs something that andrew because i think that probably anva have mething that andrew because i think that probably anva have been ng that andrew because i think that probably anva have been debating ndrew because i think that probably anva have been debating thisw and i have been debating this morning when this trend morning as to when this trend started happen in of started to happen in of criminals just saying, no, started to happen in of criminals just saying , no, i'm criminals just saying, no, i'm not going to go and listen to my sentence. is it a recent phenomenon? that's right. it is i >> -- >> it is law lam >> it is recent. i say they can trace it back to the sentencing there of thomas cashman in and it just i think the government is quite keen nip this in the is quite keen to nip this in the bud and be explicitly clear that judges have the power to take judges do have the power to take action do it for action and they can do it for example, if a convicted criminal refuses to come upstairs , they refuses to come upstairs, they can order in experts to assess them, to give prison officers, officers comfort that they can be brought upstairs and face the music. it's really important. i think anyone, anyone who's been a victim of crime will know this

if you need to have them facing the consequence of their action. and also hear the impact on victims, it's really important that seen be done that justice is seen to be done in case. all right. in this case. all right. >> thank you, news >> okay. thank you, gb news political editor christopher hope westminster. hope there at westminster. >> us now, of >> well, joining us now, of course patrick course, is a very patrick christys who's to talk christys who's here to talk about his make killers face real justice campaign. morning patrick. >> good morning, both of you. thank you very much for having me on. me on. >> me on. >> so what are you up to? what are you trying to achieve? >> absolutely. well, look, >> yeah, absolutely. well, look, it this morning it heartened me this morning when i saw choppers exclusive about politicians saying that they're to they're actually going to do something one something about this. the one problem don't believe something about this. the one probleand don't believe something about this. the one probleand don'tdon't believe something about this. the one probleand don't believe lieve something about this. the one probleand don't believe them them. and don't believe them because they've not done anything yet. that is anything about it yet. that is why want keep the why we want to keep up the people's pressure from the people's to people's channel. go to gbnews.com forward slash justice gb news.com forward slash justice as nearly gbnews.com forward slash justice as nearly 20,000 people as already nearly 20,000 people have. this petition is less than 24 hours old. what we want to do is make . oh, i think we've had is make. oh, i think we've had heanngs is make. oh, i think we've had hearings and people are talking

about aren't they people talk about aren't they people talk about what are the practical implications of all this? implications of all of this? well is actually very easily well it is actually very easily done. could drag them up done. you could drag them up there. you could beam it into their cells. could them their cells. you could put them into soundproof booth. you into a soundproof booth. you could booth with could put that booth with mirrored so that they mirrored glass so that they can't then impact on the court proceeding. you could threaten to whatever privileges proceeding. you could threaten to may whatever privileges proceeding. you could threaten to may well'hatever privileges proceeding. you could threaten to may well have'er privileges proceeding. you could threaten to may well have whilstileges proceeding. you could threaten to may well have whilst inges they may well have whilst in prison. so for lucy letby, for example, she will at some point wants to have contact with the outside she some outside world. she will at some point want have a phone call point want to have a phone call . cetera. you can actually . et cetera. you can actually take away from her if take all that away from her if she doesn't attend. it's she doesn't attend. so it's gbnews.com forward slash gb news.com forward slash justice. gbnews.com forward slash justice. but can i just also outline some of the utter rhiannon jones who haven't outline some of the utter rhiann upjones who haven't outline some of the utter rhiann up aties who haven't outline some of the utter rhiann up at coui'lio haven't outline some of the utter rhiann up at court for aven't outline some of the utter rhiann up at court for the1't outline some of the utter rhiann up at court for the final turned up at court for the final days of their sentencing ? we've days of their sentencing? we've got lucy letby murdered seven babies, is now going to spend the rest of her life in a cushy pink coloured prison, never having heard the victim impact statements. thomas cashman shot and killed nine year old olivia pratt—korbel own he pratt—korbel in her own home. he is a gangland professional prison will be like a holiday camp koci selamaj

camp for that koci selamaj killed schoolteacher sabina nessa in cold blood in a park as she walked home. levi bellfield he wants to get married in prison now . and indeed, he's prison now. and indeed, he's going to have photographs of his wedding taken. he's writing books prison does bother books. prison does not bother these the only thing these people. the only thing that would bother them is facing up consequences what up to the consequences of what they've done. the impact they've done. the human impact statements of what they've done. and i defer to the relatives of zara. aleena and ellie edwards , zara. aleena and ellie edwards, who i spoke to in the last couple of days, who both said to me, reading their impact me, reading their victim impact statements to the killers would have been the absolute bit of justice that they could have got left . and so we are trying to left. and so we are trying to force that through gbnews.com forward slash justice. >> so for you, patrick, is it about the victims and about giving the victims some more closure or is it about wanting to inflict more punishment, if you like, on the criminal? so it's both really now primarily it's both really now primarily it is about the victim and the victim impact statements.

>> and therefore, i think anyone would say it's reasonable that in some cases , as the relatives in some cases, as the relatives of the victim may well not want to see that individual in court. therefore, i think it should be entirely up to them. that's a very reasonable way of doing it. in that case, you could obviously beam those statements down into their cells, as has already been discussed. but the other for is, you've other thing for me is, as you've said, having more of an said, about having more of an impact the perpetrator, impact on the perpetrator, there's two reasons me why there's two reasons for me why an individual would to an individual would not want to attend court. is cowardice . attend court. one is cowardice. so they don't want to hear the impact of their crimes and their sentence read down them. the sentence read down to them. the other one is it's the last little bit of power that they have situation . it's the have in this situation. it's the last little bit control that last little bit of control that they that situation and they have in that situation and want remove that power and want to remove that power and control those people . and i control from those people. and i don't not don't want them. they were not cowards. were not scared, cowards. they were not scared, were they were going were they, when they were going around babies? they around murdering babies? they were when they were were not scared when they were going around attacking lone women, a women, vulnerable women in a park, know ruining people's park, you know, ruining people's lives. weren't they weren't lives. they weren't they weren't so then. so they should so scared then. so they should

be made to front to this. be made to front up to this. >> patrick, i completely agree. why should these vile, evil killers, any right killers, rapists have any right to dictate anything goes to dictate anything that goes on in sentencing hearing ? they in the sentencing hearing? they have whatsoever . have no rights whatsoever. >> 100% mean there is a school of thought, though it's not necessarily the most popular school thought. but there is school of thought. but there is a thought says a school of thought that says that, know, if you go around that, you know, if you go around murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six others and by way, this story could and by the way, this story could end getting you know, end up getting worse, you know, the still looking the police are still looking into things here. then you into other things here. then you may human rights to may lose your human rights to an extent. human right extent. and if that human right is being dragged to is about you being dragged to court, screaming, i court, kicking and screaming, i think something that think that is something that people just people would favour. just another this, the another option on this, by the way, is the moment way, quickly, is at the moment the judges do have power the the judges do have power and the prison governors have the prison governors do have the power to do it. but the fear comes, which i completely understand, comes from understand, the fear comes from prison want understand, the fear comes from priend want understand, the fear comes from priend up want understand, the fear comes from priend up on want understand, the fear comes from priend up on the want understand, the fear comes from priend up on the wrong want understand, the fear comes from priend up on the wrong side1t understand, the fear comes from priend up on the wrong side of to end up on the wrong side of the law themselves by overstepping grey of overstepping that grey area of reasonable force. i would also just like to politely remind ourselves about why are we possibly ended up here with lucy

letby. doctors were reporting her and saying we think she's killing babies and a fear of air culture, a fear of people themselves trying to do the right thing and ending up on the wrong side of the law is arguably one reason why she was allowed to keep killing babies for long period of when for a long period of time. when it to the prison officers it comes to the prison officers , need to remove fear , we need to remove the fear that officers would have that prison officers would have about that about overstepping that reasonable force line and protect and let them get protect them and let them get people to court . people to court. >> patrick, good luck with the campaign . that's our gb news campaign. that's our gb news presenter christie just presenter patrick christie just to remind us, patrick, where do they how they find the petition? >> good stuff. so it's gbnews.com forward slash gb news.com forward slash justice. gbnews.com forward slash justice. so far, nearly 20,000 people have done it. i'll keep you updated on my show. three till about what the next till 6 pm. about what the next steps this petition are going steps in this petition are going to do not the to be. do not trust the politicians to just do this. make voices heard. let's make your voices heard. let's force through. force it through. >> thanks. patrick >> okay. thanks. patrick christie now come, yeah christie now still to come, yeah , and it's a very worthy noble. >> you're not going sign it, >> you're not going to sign it, are you? >> i will sign it because i

support patrick christys. and what he does is of our gb what he does is part of our gb news family support news family and we all support each other. a great man. each other. that's a great man. but i do to see the but i do want to see the practicalities of how you make it work. >> well, they've got time to sort it out. their government. and idea, isn't and that's a good idea, isn't it? soundproof box? it? a soundproof box? >> not? you're still >> yeah, why not? you're still putting prison officer putting a prison officer potentially getting potentially at risk of getting a hardened to go inside potentially at risk of getting a hard box. to go inside potentially at risk of getting a hard box. now, to go inside potentially at risk of getting a hard box. now, still:o go inside potentially at risk of getting a hard box. now, still to ]o inside potentially at risk of getting a hard box. now, still to come,je that box. now, still to come, the rise and rise of vivek ramaswamy, the republican hopeful. >> he's tech billionaire, one >> he's a tech billionaire, one of billionaires of the youngest billionaires in the states. says he's the united states. he says he's going more right wing going to be even more right wing than trump was his than donald trump was during his presidency. is he america's next president states? president of the united states? with

patrick christys on gb news and gb news radio . gb news radio. >> it's 1121. you're with britain's newsroom and gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> we've been asking you this morning to get in touch with us and particularly we want to hear from you. if you were at heathrow airport this morning, i'm still reeling from that. so the from the lionesses got back from australia, into australia, flew overnight into terminal crowds were terminal three. crowds were there kids with home made banners saying, banners and placards saying, well the lionesses, the well done, the lionesses, the football the back football team went out the back door even say hello door and didn't even say hello or thank you or anything. >> why would do that? some >> why would they do that? some people been for people have been there for hours. emailed hours. some people have emailed in they've paid over £80 in saying they've paid over £80 in saying they've paid over £80 in because they wanted in parking because they wanted they didn't know what time the team arriving. they wanted team were arriving. they wanted to sure they were there. to make sure they were there. they'd probably been whisked off for some outing the for some vip outing with the prime king. prime minister or the king. fine, but and the people fine, but go and see the people who you on throughout.

>> but there's no reason why you can't the front door. no. can't go out the front door. no. you know, when my ex husband, who had a couple of olympic gold medals came home, medals when he came home, particularly when that particularly when he was in that steve 2000, the steve redgrave bow in 2000, the coming the airport was coming through the airport was such deal for them to see such a big deal for them to see the public be applauded. the public and to be applauded. yeah they wouldn't have missed that the world. they that for the world. they certainly wouldn't have missed it and see prime it to go and see the prime minister. yeah, they would minister. yeah, but they would have to go out the have been told to go out the back door. >> so what we to work out >> so what we have to work out is quite why. >> maybe all of >> maybe they're all a bit of a mr. which we want to get to mr. b, which we want to get to the bottom of perhaps before we finish at 12:00. we've also been talking about lucy letby, of course, emails in. course, and emails coming in. yeah, legislation yeah, this legislation about whether she should be forced or future guilty future criminals found guilty should be forced to listen to their sentence. has their sentence. yeah. khan has said . john from doncaster said said. john from doncaster said if people are worried about the safety of prison officers getting psychopaths into court, let's employ ex sas and ex gurkha soldiers in the courts , gurkha soldiers in the courts, specifically for the job. veterans are sleeping rough while the likes of lucy letby are looked after.

>> elizabeth elizabeth has an interesting idea. just her interesting idea. just put her interesting idea. just put her in wheeler into in a cage and wheeler into court. elizabeth, you and i, we're agreeing. >> i just. and. and john says, beware, gb news a man has been released after serving 17 years in prison , having been wrongly in prison, having been wrongly convicted . and the media should convicted. and the media should take note of this when pushing for any sort of capital punishment or even forcing people into courts who perhaps have a reason to object. >> i'm not pushing for capital punishment because just because there have many there have been so many miscarriages of justice and i don't just just taser him in the corridor or taser in the corridor or taser him in the corridor. also, we need to corridor. and also, we need to find out, in my view, why she did it. well linda says, i love andrew. >> what a better the uk >> what a better place the uk would if he was in charge . would be if he was in charge. >> linda , that's very kind of >> linda, that's very kind of you . i think i'm >> linda, that's very kind of you. i think i'm proving to be right wing even for bev turner is a bit worrying really. >> well, as i've been saying, i just see the just want to see the practicalities of this and where the focus should be. should the focus not be on the victims at that on the that point rather than on the perpetrator. do you have perpetrator. bev, do you have

any what prison officers any idea what prison officers have through every day? have to go through every day? you're says it you're talking nonsense, says it is their job. >> they have to get rough, rough men women into prison cells. men and women into prison cells. and don't know how they do and we don't know how they do it, but they do it every day. >> and you're all you're >> yeah. and you're all you're all giving me a very hard time about this. bev worried about this. bev seems worried about this. bev seems worried about taken about the prisoner being taken into court for a serial killer or anyone. a danger to themselves why not themselves or others. why not use hannibal lecter trolley use the hannibal lecter trolley straitjacket and mask? >> he was a monster. she's monster. >> we seem to forget that a convicted criminal loses privileges and respect the moment are convicted. moment they are convicted. >> i still think could >> and i still think they could have her, you're not have said to her, you're not going into court, my dear. right. then you're never going to. you're having no visiting rights year. i'm very rights for a year. well i'm very happy with punishments, happy with stricter punishments, which live out the which they have to live out the term those punishments. term of those punishments. >> crazy when >> it drives me crazy when victor, criminals victor, and when criminals are put prison for ten years put into prison for ten years and serve six or something like that. i'm not okay with. right. so moving on now, the windsor framework, we're not talking about while. we're about this for a while. we're meant answer all problems meant to answer all the problems around trade.

around around post—brexit trade. but on they're still very but months on they're still very little clarity. is all to little clarity. this is all to do with northern ireland, if you recall. >> no detail has been given to many businesses and the grace penod many businesses and the grace period for goods coming into northern ireland, which of course the course is still part of the single market, to an end on single market, come to an end on the 1st of october. >> so dougie beattie breaks down the brexit trade row the the latest brexit trade row the ports of northern ireland are a lifeline to its economy and the transport industry is under real pressure due to the lack of procedure information around the framework document . framework document. >> all but a small amount of goods arrive and depart by hgvs on the sea and within the last few weeks some northern ireland containers have been stopped in britain and customs documents are being requested by john martin of the road hauliers association , is frustrated by association, is frustrated by the lack of clarity . the lack of clarity. >> if this product moving from northern ireland. the government

probably wants to see if it's northern irish product or eu product. so it would appear that they want to assess the goods to see if they're northern irish or eu. we have been lobbying government from day one, asking them how they're going to manage eu product coming through northern ireland to gb and they've refused to answer the question. >> lord says that the >> lord keen says that the framework document creates unfair fettered access between northern ireland and britain . northern ireland and britain. >> but i'm very clear that the windsor framework enshrined unfettered access for goods travelling from northern ireland into great britain and indeed the uk internal market act enshrines in law unfettered access from ni to gb. >> jim allister is a unionist politics person but also a kc and believes that under the framework , a border between framework, a border between northern ireland and great britain can not be avoided because northern ireland is a prohibit from having any checks on goods coming from the

republic. >> and that's where article 55 of the protocol expressly says you cannot check quantitatively goods coming from the eu into northern ireland. the only place you then can check them if you want to protect the rest of the uk market from being flooded is in gb and thereby if you build not just the irish sea border for goods from gb to northern ireland, but you build it effectively in gb for goods coming from within northern ireland to gb. it is a preposterous situation . ian. preposterous situation. ian. >> it now appears that there are problems both ways and peter burke, the republic of ireland's minister for european affairs , minister for european affairs, insists there is clear guidance i >> -- >> but it depends on the type of goods. there's a very clear chart of different types of goods that need paperwork and there's goods that are there's goods that obviously are more higher risk than others. but framework provides the but the framework provides the pathway for any issues that come forward in relation to the passage of goods over and back from the or the uk .

from the eu or the uk. >> small retailers will face the largest problems , especially on largest problems, especially on stock levels. northern ireland's supply chain is known as just in time. the very size of the population here means that coal storage for long periods of time is not financial viable . plans is not financial viable. plans are now well underway to bypass britain and go directly to the eu to avoid the issues with labelling and green and red lanes. and this will push up pnces lanes. and this will push up prices and is causing political problems as both the secretary of state and mp sammy wilson seem to be on totally different pages. >> the windsor framework was agreed and therefore as night as night follows day, the executive should be up and running . should be up and running. >> but anybody that knows northern ireland politics knew that was going to take some time. >> what it does show is that all of the promises made by the prime minister in the house of

commons simply a tissue of commons were simply a tissue of lies . in effect, he said this lies. in effect, he said this would do away with any border in the irish sea, the border in the irish sea is reinforced it. he said that it would sort out the problems of the protocol and economic life in northern ireland. could be restored and we could be part of the uk single market. the barriers are higher and what amazes me is that there is an intolerance in the house of commons to prime minister's telling lies. as we saw with the treatment of boris johnson . these are the biggest johnson. these are the biggest set of lies that one could possibly have told to the house of commons. yet it it's there are some lies appear to be acceptable because nobody wants to scrutinise and dig down deep as to the actual effect of the windsor framework. dougie beattie . gb news belfast . beattie. gb news belfast. >> now we're going to be talking in just a moment about the lionesses who arrived back in

this country and ignored the welcome party, went out the back doon welcome party, went out the back door. we're going to be finding out why just a moment after out why in just a moment after the with . tamsin the news with. tamsin >> beth, thank you. here are the headunes >> beth, thank you. here are the headlines at 1130, judges will be given new powers to force convict prisoners to hear their sentencing . gb news can reveal sentencing. gb news can reveal the government is introducing a multifaceted initiative to stop criminals like lucy letby from refusing to go to court. yesterday, the serial baby killer didn't have to listen to impact statements from her victims parents, but judges will be able to order convicted criminals into the dock or remove them if they're disruptive . prison officers will disruptive. prison officers will also be able to use reasonable force to make them attend , force to make them attend, including handcuffing them . the including handcuffing them. the plans will be unveiled in the king's speech in november. there are warnings as the uk's migrant crisis is likely to be significantly worse by the next general election think tank. the institute for public policy

research says any incoming government faces a perma backlog of thousands of new asylum seekers needing long term accommodation and support. researchers warn the annual housing costs for the backlog could soar to over £5 billion after five years. top up private school eton college is to open three free selective sixth forms in dudley , middlesbrough and in dudley, middlesbrough and oldham. it will aim to recruit young people from disadvantaged communities . it's after the communities. it's after the department for education approved 15 new free schools across the country where education outcomes are weakest . education outcomes are weakest. labour claims the economy is stuck in a low growth trap under the conservatives . analysis by the conservatives. analysis by the conservatives. analysis by the opposition predicts uk growth will be the slowest of all the g7 countries next year. shadow treasury minister tulip siddiq says low growth has become the hallmark of rishi sunak's time in power. well

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you company right through until 7:00 this evening. gb news the people's . channel people's. channel >> it's 1138. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner right. >> moving stateside now for a moment, the race is on to choose the next republic presidential candidate. it's going to take place tonight. the place later tonight. but the front has front runner, donald trump, has confirmed won't be confirmed that he won't be attending he'll probably attending because he'll probably get so that attending because he'll probably get second so that attending because he'll probably get second in so that attending because he'll probably get second in the that attending because he'll probably get second in the race. leaves second in the race. >> florida governor ron desantis. but all the desantis. but with all the candidates take candidates scared to take on trump his sights will be set on trump, his sights will be set on the and coming candidate. do the up and coming candidate. do you is? he's he's a

you know who he is? he's he's a billionaire. one of america's youngest billionaires, vivek ramaswami, a sudden ramaswami, who's seen a sudden surge polls . surge in the polls. >> well, eric ham is a us political analyst and joins us live from atlanta, georgia. thank you so much for joining live from atlanta, georgia. thank you so much forjoining us this morning. eric we this is a name that many people in this country don't know yet. so tell us who he is. who is vivek ramaswami? what does he stand for? how is he different ? for? how is he different? >> well , what for? how is he different? >> well, what stands out about him is he is a millennial politician . he's a first time politician. he's a first time politician. he's a first time politician running for the highest office in the land . he's highest office in the land. he's sort of like pete buttigieg for the democrats back in 2020. he has caught fire. and now what we're seeing in republican circles is he is rising in the polls . the question, of course, polls. the question, of course, many are wondering is, will he actually overtake donald trump? now he has not been someone who has attacked donald trump. in fact, he's been a staunch defender of donald trump, saying that if he becomes president of the united states , he will

the united states, he will actually pardon donald trump from all of these federal cases and criminal indictments against him. and so what we're seeing here is someone who is actually be taking on stance and positions that we're not seeing from other republicans and i think that's one of the reasons why he is standing out. >> doesn't matter. eric that he's got no record as a governor or a congressman . he's got or a congressman. he's got a very successful record as a businessman. he's one of america's youngest billionaires at the age of 37 or 38. well the lack of history in the republican party counter against him . him. >> well, look, donald trump had no political experience whatsoever when he came down that gilded stair escalator in 2016. so i don't think that will actually hurt him. in fact , i actually hurt him. in fact, i think his business record will go a long way, particularly in the republican party, where we see a party that has made clear where they stand in terms of their support for business. >> okay. all right. thank you, eric. i'm sorry. it was short

and sweet. we lost you a bit earlier, so we had to fit you in at the end there. but do come back again and talk to us, won't you? >> yeah, i think this guy. i think this man is really, really interesting. and i think he could absolutely set the presidential alight presidential campaign alight because got the old because otherwise we got the old duffer. be honest, biden duffer. let's be honest, biden yeah, 80 going 96. and yeah, 80 going on 96. and who really trump again? yeah, 80 going on 96. and who reaiwell, trump again? yeah, 80 going on 96. and who reaiwell, i've'ump again? yeah, 80 going on 96. and who reaiwell, i've just again? yeah, 80 going on 96. and who reaiwell, i've just again vivek >> well, i've just found vivek ramaswamy's twitter feed and i think i'm slightly falling in love. desantis might have love. so ron desantis might have some competition some for competition my affections. now, as we were discussing earlier, dozens of lionesses fans have been left disappointed travelling to disappointed after travelling to meet them at heathrow airport this to find out this morning, to only find out they the back door. they left by the back door. let's a quick listen to let's have a quick listen to some of them. >> honestly , it's absolutely >> honestly, it's absolutely gutted . you know, we came here gutted. you know, we came here to give them the hero's welcome . okay. they they came second. but to get it just to get into the final was an absolute amazing achievement . the final was an absolute amazing achievement. i bring my book. >> i always write in it, and then i bring this so that they could maybe, like, shine it for me. and then it was like when we

when like, everyone kept when i heard like, everyone kept saying, not coming saying, oh, they're not coming out. coming out. i out. they're not coming out. i have to leave that. >> they were to going come out. >> they were to going come out. >> then when we finally >> and then when we finally heard coming heard that they're not coming out confirmation, out like actually confirmation, like i actually i was like devastated because wanted devastated because i like wanted to mary or or like to see like mary or or like millie bright. it's disappointing. >> i think we just assumed that they were going to come through. they were going to they were going to come. and we knew that they were going to be a few fans here. we didn't how many here. we didn't realise how many fans, but yeah, we just expected them through just cheer them to come through just cheer for show like for them. just show them like how we of them. so how proud we are of them. so yeah, it's disappointing. >> we excited see >> we were excited just to see their through their luggage come through because they've because we were like, they've not the here. the luggage not left the here. the luggage is coming through. so it kind of built atmosphere it built that atmosphere that it was are they coming? was like, oh, are they coming? are how long are are they coming? how long are they going to be? so it's just a little disappointed we little bit disappointed that we didn't show our love and didn't get to show our love and support and how proud of we are. >> oh, it's just heartbreaking. i'm all those people i'm sorry for all those people who to airport. wants who went to the airport. wants to inspired. let's talk now

to be inspired. let's talk now to be inspired. let's talk now to agent sky andrew. to football agent sky andrew. morning you. morning sky. good to see you. under circumstances could under what circumstances could the team have decided to go out of the way so that they of the back way so that they didn't see the can you can didn't see the fans? can you can you it? well you explain it? well >> well, they had a security issue which was fed to them and then they had to leave via the vip exit. but remember , the men vip exit. but remember, the men do it. vip exit. but remember, the men doit.the vip exit. but remember, the men do it. the men go out the devere group exit. and i think that because the women's team is an emerging emerge team and emerging emerge team and emerging global stars and people are surprised that they didn't come out to meet the fans, but there would have been a reason why they didn't come out to meet the fans. they would been the fans. they would have been given wrong, they the fans. they would have been given have wrong, they the fans. they would have been given have beenwrong, they the fans. they would have been given have been told g, they the fans. they would have been given have been told something. would have been told something. >> if you if you were the agent to those girls that team who to those girls on that team who are still assets, they are still bankable assets, they might only come second, but are still bankable assets, they migrwill only come second, but are still bankable assets, they migrwill go )nly come second, but are still bankable assets, they migrwill go on! come second, but are still bankable assets, they migrwill go on and ne second, but are still bankable assets, they migrwill go on and ne se(on 1, but they will go on and carry on making money and having sponsorship deals. if they had to because to leave by another exit because of issue, wouldn't of a security issue, wouldn't you encouraged them put of a security issue, wouldn't you a encouraged them put of a security issue, wouldn't you a statement, ged them put of a security issue, wouldn't you a statement, atd them put of a security issue, wouldn't you a statement, at leastn put of a security issue, wouldn't you a statement, at least to put of a security issue, wouldn't you a statement, at least to gout out a statement, at least to go on twitter saying, i'm so sorry, we couldn't come out of the front entrance, blah, blah,

blah? they've just ignored everybody blah? they've just ignored eve it body blah? they've just ignored eve it bo> it is interesting that these girls are emerging superstars and this is obviously a pr hiccup. if there are people waiting for you at the airport, you would expect them to come out and be seen to be greeting the fans and to respecting the fans. the fans and to respecting the fans . i find the fans and to respecting the fans. i find it very unusual that as a brand, they are growing so quickly and they're becoming global commercial brands that they would miss this opportunity to at least meet and greet the fans because those pictures would have gone all over the world. >> do you reckon there's been some sort of controversy? do you think there's been some sort of issue? there some sulking issue? is there some sulking going getting what going on? who's getting what deals? difficult deals? it's a difficult time this athletes they've this for athletes when they've just well, come just won something or well, come second something like this. second in something like this. >> the truth is, behind the >> no, the truth is, behind the scenes, with most athletes in all , once have and all sports, once they have and won something, all sports, once they have and won something , then it can be won something, then it can be a little bit draining to go out and people, etcetera, and meet people, etcetera, etcetera. this case, we etcetera. but in this case, we are very good in this country at

celebrating when our teams come second. you know, we do we do like to give them some because we come second often. we come second so often. >> why . >> that's why. >> that's why. >> yeah, we do . >> yeah, we do. >> yeah, we do. >> and those girls, you know, there's a couple of girls in that team that have got the potential to be global superstars. yeah. lisa russo , superstars. yeah. lisa russo, lauren james, you know, and they've got to start building on their pr and every opportunity they have , they have to buy into they have, they have to buy into they have, they have to buy into the public. it's the pub, it's the public. it's the pub, it's the public. it's the pub, it's the public that buy the shirts. you know, we saw the uproar with with earps. you know, with mary earps. you know, there's public build . you there's the public build. you and the public can also cause you an issue if you don't buy into them and show them the respect . respect. >> thank you, sky. good to see you . sky. there. yes you. sky. andrew there. yes mary. mary as she's called, the goalkeeper, mario, thank you. >> quite like to represent some of those women players, don't you? >> well, mm- mm— my— >> well, do you know what? if you are out there and you were on team, come me on that team, come and see me and andrew into the studio and andrew come into the studio tomorrow and explain to us a win over the very, very loyal gb news public us why you

news public and tell us why you weren't us about weren't there and tell us about your experience from their your experience right from their pay your experience right from their pay which they'll be pay rises, which they'll be facing bosses pay rises, facing to bosses pay rises, nigel and wolff are nigel nelson and emma wolff are back studio with us. 4100 back in the studio with us. 4100 bosses given an bosses have been given an average rise of half average pay rise of half £1 million nice, million a year. that's nice, isn't it? really nice for isn't it? that's really nice for us. yeah, lovely. >> the worst part is the percentage. so the over the year they've had an average 16% pay rise. one six. yeah. one six. so where we are at the moment is that the they are now making 118 times as average salary average salary about 33, £33,000. if you look back over the years , 40 look back over the years, 40 years ago, they only made 20 times, 20 years ago, 50 times by 2020, it was 79 times. tell me why a boss is nearly six times better now than they were 40 years ago and why ? years ago and why? >> why are 118 times? >> why are 118 times? >> yeah , 118 times what's >> yeah, 118 times what's happenedin >> yeah, 118 times what's happened in the last few years to give it an even more rocket boost?

>> covid no, but purely because they can the whole thing about this is that bosses have now now said, look, we'll just award ourselves whatever we want . the ourselves whatever we want. the answer, if there's any kind of fairness , i mean, jeremy corbyn fairness, i mean, jeremy corbyn would have capped it at 22 times average salary. well, i don't think that's right. these guys should high amounts. high should have high amounts. high incomes. however the system should be changed. so if they want to award themselves 16, that's what the staff get. >> well, if i say what do their staff get? i can't imagine any of those 200 companies have paid their staff of 16 salary for a full time workers . full time workers. >> 33,000? yeah, they're pay rise is 500,000 this year. >> £1,200 on top of the list was ceo of astrazeneca pascal soriot, who . collected £15.3 million. >> so how is he going to manage on that? >> and their median pay is now £3.9 million a year. and this is just a few weeks, a few months, maybe after the government and the bank of england have been

telling employers to exercise restraint. that's right. over pay restraint. that's right. over pay rises , including the pay rises, including the governor the of england, governor of the bank of england, who £600,000 a year. who owns £600,000 a year. >> people, >> that's right. but the people, the have to show the people who have to show restraint are the people on the lowest pay and that's the bit thatis lowest pay and that's the bit that is so annoying . so if these that is so annoying. so if these people did it fairly , they give people did it fairly, they give their workers the pay rises. they get proportionately not £500,000. >> and here's the nhs , here's >> and here's the nhs, here's the government refusing, in my view, rightly , to not to pay the view, rightly, to not to pay the doctors, the junior doctors, 35% pay doctors, the junior doctors, 35% pay rise. >> that is right. >> that is right. >> but then you hear, well, exactly. >> it brings all those other issues into question. there isn't this, but there isn't money for this, but there isn't money for this, but there is for money that. and yes, these private companies, but these are private companies, but it about it does raise questions about that. well, that. who's worth what? well, they could chief executive of gsk the drug companies. gsk are all the drug companies. >> incredibly well >> they all did incredibly well out this pandemic, didn't out of this pandemic, didn't they? on, talking they? right. moving on, talking of now, he of health, matt hancock, now, he of health, matt hancock, now, he of course, he needs no introduction to you, gb news viewers, listeners. >> when he was secretary of >> he when he was secretary of state for health, there were plans put forward ban sack plans put forward to ban sack managers get sacked from managers so they get sacked from a job means they can't go and

get another well—paid the get another well—paid job in the nhs. said it and then nhs. he shell said it and then it vanished altogether because of covid, as if we needed further matt hancock's further proof of matt hancock's absolute and absolute incapacity and unfitness be health secretary. >> i'm sorry, he was not. he said he could see the attraction of such a system, the attraction his focus. i don't believe his attention to detail was never up to scratch. his he wasn't engagedin to scratch. his he wasn't engaged in the job. he said , oh. engaged in the job. he said, oh. then he got distracted by covid, which he and his career messed up . i think that he was more up. i think that he was more interested in his personal life. we know he had a pretty exciting happenings in the corridors of whitehall and then he got distracted by a much more glamorous thing, which was covid making wear masks, making everyone wear masks, imposing restrictions on imposing huge restrictions on the this is this is the country. this is this is really well, it's more evidence of matt hancock's time in office. >> f also t— f also related to the >> and it's also related to the olivia pratt—korbel story , of olivia pratt—korbel story, of course. olivia pratt—korbel story, of couwell, mean , the whole thing >> well, i mean, the whole thing is. >> sorry, h- h— letby. >> yeah. and the whole thing is what the idea was that you would have register managers have a register of managers in the nhs much in the same way

that the general medical council has a register of doctors. so that means if you were struck off or the equivalent of being struck off for a serious misdemeanour, you couldn't then just wander off to another hospital to get employed. if you were . were. >> and they do, and they do. >> and they do, and they do. >> so been at bp, for >> so if you been at bp, for instance, you couldn't fired instance, you couldn't be fired from the oil side and then say, oh, i'll just pop off to gas now and do that. >> and it's the revolving door, doesn't it, how bad you are? there's another job around the corner. job corner. there's another job around corner. corner. there's another job arorthis corner. corner. there's another job arorthis is corner. corner. there's another job arorthis is an rner. corner. there's another job arorthis is an issue of life and >> this is an issue of life and death. this is safety. this is the health system. this isn't, you know, isn't and you know, this isn't oil. and then wander and you then you wander around and you do certain electricity or do gas in certain electricity or whatever. a whatever. and it really is a question of people are struck off. they should not then be operating national. operating in our national. >> also taxpayers money. >> these hospital halls are using money and using the taxpayers money and the you can be the idea that you can be managing a trust or a hospital, get the sack and then go run get the sack and then go and run another one, blows my mind. another one, it blows my mind. yeah, another that yeah, right. another thing that blows my mind, emma wolf, a

pride featuring many pride book featuring many bondage shown to four bondage gear shown to four year olds in pre—school. >> children be? >> can we just let children be? children can we just stop with gay pride? can we just with gay pride? can we just stop with trans shoving their trans issues shoving it in their faces, them that if they faces, telling them that if they want to wear a skirt, they must immediately the wrong gender immediately be the wrong gender or to just leave or they want to wear just leave children alone. we don't to children alone. we don't need to talk when they're four, talk to them when they're four, when three, when they're when they're three, when they're two, to talk two, they we don't need to talk to about sexuality or to them about sexuality or anything have anything like that. they have questions. them questions. we talk to them openly about whatever. they have questions gender. but all openly about whatever. they have quernonsense gender. but all openly about whatever. they have quernonsense aboutder. but all openly about whatever. they have quernonsense about shoving all this nonsense about shoving gauge bondage, it's cartoon, gauge bondage, it's a cartoon, isn't gauge bondage, it's a cartoon, isn'nigel yeah, it's cartoon. >> nigel yeah, it's a cartoon. it's cartoon and it's a cartoon drawing and there's no way of defending it. i this is quite clearly i mean, this is quite clearly not appropriate for , for not age appropriate for, for very children. very young children. >> or is a bit >> i think 10 or 11 is a bit young to be told about bondage . young to be told about bondage. >> well, it may well be. i mean, you can buy it. can can you can buy it. you can you can buy the shop. buy it in the shop. >> and it's called grandad's pride. now, nigel and are old pride. now, nigel and i are old enough remember back the enough to remember back in the 80s, reason we got section 80s, the reason we got section 28, the government 80s, the reason we got section 28, that the government 80s, the reason we got section 28, that locale government 80s, the reason we got section 28, that local authorities nt saying that local authorities must not spend public money promoting homosexual equal promoting homosexual and equal light because of these books

light was because of these books that were appearing schools. light was because of these books tha ericre appearing schools. light was because of these books tha eric loves earing schools. light was because of these books tha eric loves .aring schools. light was because of these books tha eric loves . jimg schools. light was because of these books tha eric loves . jim that's 1ools. light was because of these books tha eric loves . jim that's right. >> eric loves. jim that's right. >> eric loves. jim that's right. >> yeah, yeah, yeah . >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> and it was deemed it was too young. schools were being putting this sort of stuff and we've 28, which we've got section 28, which i didn't agree section 28, didn't agree with section 28, nor but that was nor did i, but that was the backdrop it. now we've backdrop to it. and now we've got year olds. nigel but got four year olds. nigel but thatis got four year olds. nigel but that is why it's not age appropriate. >> i mean, i'm not criticising the book itself for the right age group of , of kids. yeah. but age group of, of kids. yeah. but clearly these are not the right age group . age group. >> the book is called grandad's pride. >> and so it's two men, one of them wearing a leather codpiece, moulded tightly around his crotch and a studded dog collar around his neck and knee high boots. it is bondage gear and they have an expression of sort of what do you know about bondage, sexual delirium? >> that's what i object to. >> that's what i object to. >> there is nothing wrong at any age , actually, of saying to age, actually, of saying to children , some sometimes men children, some sometimes men love each other, sometimes i have no problem. absolutely. of course , of that. but having course, of that. but having children shown, shoved, shoved in their faces at the age of 4—4

in their faces at the age of 4—4 in bondage gear , i don't think in bondage gear, i don't think there's anything in 12 year old went on. >> my 12 year old went on a residential this summer and when she came back, she said that the teacher who'd been taking their age group, is 12 to 14 to age group, which is 12 to 14 to 15, was wearing a bib badge. i didn't know there was such a thing. i can remember the first booki thing. i can remember the first book i at was the book i read at school was the borrowers by mary norton. >> recommend to >> i recommend it to all children today. it's lovely children today. it's a lovely book, lovely book, wasn't it? lovely still book, lovely book, wasn't it? lovely strong. still book, lovely book, wasn't it? lovely strong. and still book, lovely book, wasn't it? lovelystrong. and i still book, lovely book, wasn't it? lovelystrong. and i saw ll book, lovely book, wasn't it? lovely strong. and i saw it book, lovely book, wasn't it? lovelystrong. and i saw it in a going strong. and i saw it in a bookshop the other day, mary norton, and they made a very good tv programme about too. good tv programme about it too. >> emma, thank you. lovely >> nigel emma, thank you. lovely to that's to see you. that's it for britain's newsroom and book club for today. up next, it's the live desk. borrowers mark live desk. borrowers with mark longhurst tomson marcus longhurst and pip tomson marcus here us sorry here to tell us what sorry to disappoint point you know bondage this lunchtime even speaking granddad, however, speaking as a granddad, however, we reflecting those we will be reflecting on those top that nigel was top doctors that nigel was referring it's the referring to who say it's the nhs now nhs managers who should now be held to account over their failings in the loose letby case also , they're calling more also, they're calling for more protection for the whistleblowers to ensure that this never happens again .

this never happens again. >> also coming up, georgia on his mind. yes, trump is telling his mind. yes, trump is telling his followers he expected to be arrested on thursday as he heads to atlanta, where he's going to be fingerprinted and have his mugshot taken in court. also, cheap as chips. mugshot taken in court. also, cheap as chips . we'll be going cheap as chips. we'll be going to the south wales chippy offering children's meals for just £2. tasty treat for you . just £2. tasty treat for you. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good morning alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. another pretty warm one in the south. once the morning mist and low cloud has cleared away further is more further north there is more cloud yesterday we're further north there is more cloud to yesterday we're further north there is more cloud to see esterday we're further north there is more cloud to see aterday we're further north there is more cloud to see a feway we're further north there is more cloud to see a few more we're further north there is more cloud to see a few more showers going to see a few more showers as well. parts of northern england, north wales and central and scotland certainly and southern scotland certainly and southern scotland certainly a compared to a wetter day compared to yesterday. a few showers still across northwest scotland, but generally the showers will fade. so turning a drier come the so turning a bit drier come the afternoon . winds easing.

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held to account over their failings in the lucy letby case. >> they're also calling for better protection for medical whistleblower laws to ensure it never happens again . never happens again. >> georgia on his mind. donald trump tells his followers he expects to be arrested on thursday over alleged election interference. the former president expected to be fingerprinted and have his mugshot taken in atlanta cheap as chips, but a lifeline for struggling families . struggling families. >> we'll be trying out the £1 meals being provided for hungry children by a south wales chippy and have the lionesses missed another open goal that leaves scores of fans disappointed as they shoot through a back door after landing at heathrow. >> first, though, latest headunes >> first, though, latest headlines with tamzin .

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