29, she waved her anonymity to speak out against his crimes. i was 22 when i finally reported it, and i think being a victim of this kind of crime, i feel like sometimes, you know , you like sometimes, you know, you don't really know yourself what you've been through. >> i don't think i went home and i don't think it was until the year after it happened that i told someone about it and they told someone about it and they told me, you know, it was rape. i obviously was really upset telling them and sharing it, but i don't think i'd ever really fully understood what happened to me . to me. >> judges will be given new powers to force convicted prisoners to hear their sentencing . gb news can reveal sentencing. gb news can reveal the government's introducing new measures to stop criminals like lucy letby from refusing to go to court . yesterday, the serial to court. yesterday, the serial baby killer didn't have to listen to impact statements from her victim's parents. the plans will be unveiled in the king's speech in november . there are speech in november. there are

warnings the uk's migrant crisis is likely to be significantly worse by the next general election think tank. the institute for public policy research says any incoming government faces a perma backlog of thousands of new asylum seekers needing long term accommodation and support. but researchers warn the annual housing costs for the backlog could soar to over £5 billion after five years. and all eight people have now been rescued from the stranded cable car in pakistan. that's according to the country's interior ministry . earlier, the army was forced to band in efforts to save them by helicon water because of poor light . the children and their light. the children and their teacher were travelling to school when a cable snapped this morning, leaving them suspended 900ft in the air. and the chair of the northern ireland policing board says an independent review has been commissioned following the recent data breaches. the details of serving officers and

psni staff were published online by mistake earlier this month . a by mistake earlier this month. a number of other data breaches have since come to light, including the loss of a police officer's laptop and notebook. the board's chair, deirdre tonen the board's chair, deirdre toner, says steps are being taken to help rebuild trust . taken to help rebuild trust. this is gb news across the uk on tv and your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by simply saying play gb news now it's back over to . nigel now it's back over to. nigel >> good evening. i'm live in milwaukee in the state of wisconsin. here we are on the great lakes. it's high summer. it's a town famous for its breweries , among many other breweries, among many other things. not that i've been to one just yet. i promise you. and tomorrow there'll be eight presidential hopefuls on the stage making their pitch to become the republican candidate for the next president of the usa. one man will be missing . usa. one man will be missing. yep. donald trump is about 45

points ahead in the polls within the party and has decided on that basis he's not going to come. but the fact that he's not here doesn't mean that he's not all because he is . all present because he is. there's always drama. whether trump whether he trump appears or whether he doesn't . and we heard the news doesn't. and we heard the news last night that he going to last night that he is going to have present himself have to present himself on thursday jailhouse house in thursday to a jailhouse house in fulton county in the state of georgia , where he's going to georgia, where he's going to face 41 criminal counts, along with 18 others, codify pendants. incredibly, he's being asked to put up a $200,000 bail bond. and as if he was going to flee the country, i mean, how on earth would he do it.7 the whole thing is incredible. but a prosecutor willis appears to be overtly political in so many ways, and yet perhaps out of all the challenges that donald trump faces, this one in georgia is by far the most tricky by far the most difficult. and because it's happening at a state level, not a federal level, he wouldn't be

able if he won the election to pardon himself, whether this all comes to trial, what a jury would decide those things, of course, are far from certain . course, are far from certain. and yet it seems that with every single new legal action against him , somehow his support becomes him, somehow his support becomes stronger within the republican party, whether that reaches out to the undecideds in america, i guess, will be the great test as november 2024 approach. his well, joining me now is kari lake, of course, herself a very well known tv presenter and ran recently to be governor of georgia. kari, do you think it's a mistake, donald trump not coming to milwaukee .7 coming to milwaukee? >> no, i don't think it is actually . you know, you said actually. you know, you said he's 45 points up and i just saw a poll today out of louisiana . a poll today out of louisiana. he's 65 points up from his next competitor. if you can even call these people competitors. this is a job interview. and he's already proven he can do the job because he was on the job. he

had america in the best shape we've ever been in. we were on a solid footing on the world stage right now with joe biden. we're marching toward world war iii. we have a guy in joe biden who can't even show compassion for the people of hawaii after maui burned. >> this is what he sort of walked past the questions and said, no comment, no comment. >> and then he was there yesterday and he fell asleep dunng yesterday and he fell asleep during one of the ceremonies that we're having for the victims. he used the time to talk about himself . if the talk about himself. if the people of america are tired of joe biden, they don't like what he's selling they don't like he's selling and they don't like the the directions this the way the directions of this country is going, i don't think that be. that needs to be. >> that. i don't >> i get that. kari. i don't think he needs to in think he needs to be here in order to prove his worth. i think within the party, i get that. but there are people out there and been many there and i've been to many trump are people trump rallies. there are people out there that love donald trump. i mean, he's a hero to them. equally, there are them. but equally, there are quite lot in middle. you quite a lot in the middle. you know you need to vote for know who you need to vote for you, who perhaps aren't convinced does convinced by him does this debate tomorrow and does the

pick vice presidential pick for vice presidential candidate, you think candidate, how much do you think that matters? >> think it's a good idea >> do you think it's a good idea for him to walk onto a debate stage with a network that is pushing the globalist agenda with network that's already with a network that's already backed basically fox news? yeah, fox news. they've already made it very clear, by the way, they're operating that they're for desantis or anybody but trump and, you know, he's going to be facing bret baier lobbing a bunch of bs questions at him , a bunch of bs questions at him, trying to get him and who knows what. i get the point. >> i get the point that donald trump doesn't need to be there. i get the point that if it wasn't bret baier, it would be. well, certainly, chris christie would throwing sorts of would be throwing all sorts of problems his way. and i get it. i my question, does i get it. but my question, does this debate tomorrow still matter ? m atter? >> matter? >> think it does, >> i don't think it does, actually, he gone actually, because he has gone and something brilliant and done something so brilliant that people even be that people won't even be talking about this debate. i have been in town for a couple of days now. i've done dozens of interviews about the debate and nobody's asked me about nobody's ever asked me about these guys all ask

these other guys all they ask aboutis these other guys all they ask about is trump, in opinion, about is trump, in my opinion, he's won debate. he he's already won the debate. he doesn't need there with doesn't need to be there with people are polling. i get people who are polling. i get that point six, i get that point. >> but the point i'm making, kari, my view is that in 2016, when the horrible billy bush tapes came out and trump was in trouble many of his trouble with many of his traditional actually traditional supporters, actually at that moment in time, having mike pence as the vp candidate, a committed born again christian, actually helped to shore up that base with evangelical voters, southern baptists. so i kind of think that who the vp choice is does matter . m atter. >> matter. >> do you? well, i don't think he's going to be talking about vp choice. and that's even going to come up tomorrow. we're talking about should he be at the debate? >> i'm not. i've moved >> no, i'm not. i've moved on from that. have? no, no. from that. oh, you have? no, no. i'm saying does the pick of vp matter? because i think it does. >> think president trump >> and i think president trump is strong that know that is so strong that i know that when comes time for him to when it comes time for him to choose the vp, which will probably a year from probably be about a year from now, he's going look the now, he's going to look at the playing do playing field and say, where do ineed

playing field and say, where do i need help? do i need help with this group of voters? do i need help that voters? help with that group of voters? do help in this state, in do i need help in this state, in that state? and i trust that he will choose an incredible vp and whomever i go into whomever that is, i will go into the and vote the voting booth and vote excitingly to vote for that person, said by many lake person, said by many kari lake that is among the list that your name is among the list of runners riders for that of runners and riders for that position. i don't know position. well, i don't know that is.i position. well, i don't know that is. i mean, people have that it is. i mean, people have asked that. and the asked me about that. and the news reported it, but news has reported on it, but i haven't had that conversation news has reported on it, but i have president at conversation news has reported on it, but i have president trump. ersation news has reported on it, but i have president trump. i'sation news has reported on it, but i have president trump. i �*sat think with president trump. i do think president trump knows that i will do anything i can to help him win, because i want president to win selfishly president trump to win selfishly for children when i have an for my children when i have an almost 19 year old son and a 20 year old daughter. i'm so worried about their future. i'm worried about their future. i'm worried about the future of america . and know that america. and i know that president is the man for president trump is the man for the help usher us the moment to help usher us through difficult times. the moment to help usher us through do difficult times. the moment to help usher us through do youiifficult times. the moment to help usher us through do you think.t times. the moment to help usher us through do you think do mes. the moment to help usher us through do you think do you. the moment to help usher us through do you think do you think >> and do you think do you think the long list of charges that's mounting , how does that mounting up, how does that affect the middle ? you affect people in the middle? you know, the the know, we know the way the democrat it. we democrat base will view it. we know way the republican base know the way the republican base will view what about those

will view it. what about those folk there that are busy folk out there that are busy with and mortgages and with jobs and mortgages and bringing up families who aren't very ill? but do very politically ill? but do they at all this stuff? they look at all this stuff? does them off president does it put them off president trump it make think trump or does it make them think there's of sense of there's a sort of sense of injustice here? there's a sort of sense of injlitice here? there's a sort of sense of injlitice h help but think that >> i can't help but think that people are struggling, people who are struggling, they're they're they're in the middle. they're not political. they're not very political. they're they're realising, my they're realising, oh, my goodness, is not as good goodness, my life is not as good as it was three and four years ago under president trump. they're the they're not liking the direction. biden's going. they're not liking the dire

i'm going to speak to a pollster in a minute see whether in a minute to see whether there's possibility of there's even a possibility of anybody you really anybody else. do you really believe that joe biden is going to the democrat candidate to be the democrat candidate next to be the democrat candidate nexi've heard people that >> i've heard people say that the democrats will find a way to get away from because get away from him because they're he's they're realising that he's a dumpster fire and there's no way to salvage anything that he's done, because every decision he's made has put america in a weaker and weaker and weaker position. our economy is faltering. we're not energy independent off. i've heard that gavin newsom is actually raising money into a federal pac quite a bit of money. >> and this is the guy who's the governor >> this is the guy who is destroying california as we speak. this is the guy who locked down the beaches. he's locked down the beaches. he's locked people in their homes, destroyed, businesses our destroyed, businesses masked our children in and is pushing an agenda that americans don't want. unlike ron desantis , who want. unlike ron desantis, who actually handled the crisis in florida. >> i thought brilliantly . >> i thought brilliantly. >> i thought brilliantly. >> i thought brilliantly. >> i think we had one governor who handled it brilliantly and her name was kristi noem. ron desantis likes to tell people he

handled it brilliantly. but when you look around and you realise that the very first pastor arrested holding church arrested for holding church service covid, just service under covid, who just bucked the restrictions and said no , we are going to have our no, we are going to have our first amendment right, we will worship and we will hold a church service. he was arrested in florida . a lot of people were in florida. a lot of people were arrested in florida . and i was arrested in florida. and i was there to shut down the beaches for a bit. >> i was in florida when the uk was locked down and it was a blooming better florida i >> -- >> so you're saying because it wasn't bad as no, no, wasn't as bad as the. no, no, no, no. >> it's all relative. it's all relative. i get that. relative. and i get that. >> but but governor newsom shut down as well. has down the beaches as well. has the sand has been a good governor i really think he's been some ways. he been good in some ways. but he did terrible to the did something so terrible to the voters. ran for office and voters. he ran for office and immediately upon taking office, he said, i want a second term. i want your governor. and want to be your governor. and immediately taking office, immediately upon taking office, he started to run for president. well, and i and i think that the people don't appreciate that one thing, certain. thing, carrie, for certain. >> there are some divisions within republican party, but

within the republican party, but that's see that's politics. and we'll see you on the campaign trail. you again on the campaign trail. thank you. thank you, nigel. thank you. thank you, nigel. thank you. thank much. made thank you so much. well i made the comment a moment ago the comment there a moment ago that trump is absolutely miles ahead you ask registered ahead when you ask registered republicans to republicans who they're going to vote be their nominee. vote for to be their nominee. but i wonder, you know, events are funny things. could things change? is there anybody else in the pack? and we talk there very much. we talk there very much about governor desantis. but we didn't mention an an outsider. and there is an outsider. there is a new boy in this race who i kind of think is interesting . kind of think is interesting. now. we'll see how vivek ramaswamy performs tomorrow. he's never been in politics before , so there's inexperience, before, so there's inexperience, but he certainly got experience of being in business and he's done pretty well. he's saying some interesting things, but does he actually stand even half a chance? well, james johnson is co—founder of jl partners , of co—founder of jl partners, of course, a former adviser to theresa may. james spreading your wings here from uk into

american politics and polling and trump clearly miles in the lead. >> yeah. trump, trump is very far in the lead in national polls. he's on 55, 60. he's at the moment the very much the front runner to get the nomination. but if you look at some of the early primary states , iowa, the iowa caucus, new hampshire , his support is hampshire, his support is a little bit lower. so it's a little bit lower. so it's a little worse when you look at those early states. but no doubt he's an advantage and he's going to dominate this debate. they're all going to talking about it. >> as i said, whether trump's here his presence is here or not, his presence is going get felt strongly on going to get felt strongly on that stage and elsewhere. are there people who are open there enough people who are open minded that something could shift, something could change? so not really. >> there's a small number. it's only undecided. so a only about 10% undecided. so a very most people know very small most people know their trump. what's their view of trump. what's interesting is the sort of the 50% the primary electorate 50% of the primary electorate that saying and that aren't saying trump. and the problem is for those those try beat trump in race try to beat trump in this race is it's looking a little bit is it's all looking a little bit like you're going see

like 2016. you're going to see on that stage tonight, there's eight people vying to the eight people vying to be the anti—trump candidate. that's anti—trump candidate. and that's a gift to trump. >> actually, you that, but >> actually, you say that, but it's true, is it? it's not quite true, is it? because i've just mentioned a moment the in the in the moment ago in the in the in the introduction before came on introduction before you came on this character that i find fascinating, ramaswamy, fascinating, vivek ramaswamy, i met in the year. met him earlier in the year. i've kept in touch with him. we're to talk to him after we're going to talk to him after the on gb news. he's the debate here on gb news. he's actually quite pro trump, isn't he? >> he's pro trump, but he's also trying to put he's trying to put out there that he's the ultimate successor. the sensible successor. he's the sensible successor. he's the sensible successor trump. he's the successor to trump. he's the person can trumpism person that can do trumpism with a it's a professional face. and it's always bad as a pollster to try and predict things. i just wonder out wonder whether he might come out as the winner of this debate. you know, quite he's quite you know, he's quite he's quite unknown. on unknown. he's very versatile on the he's very the debate stage. he's very punchy. he the debate stage. he's very punchy . he doesn't punchy. he doesn't do regurgitated that , you regurgitated lines that, you know, people hate politicians doing these days. he could just he could just. yeah. >> i mean, and even in the polling and the polling varies hugely. even in the polling, hugely. but even in the polling, it that he's it would appear that he's actually pretty much in some cases, almost neck and neck with

with with with ron desantis, who was seen to be the very clear frontrunner and even some opinion polls perhaps surprising me and maybe on very small samples, but some opinion polls putting him ahead . so i just putting him ahead. so ijust wonder, i wonder whether and okay, i've just talked to kari lake and we've mentioned kirstie noem, another state governor who's popular. but i kind of wonder , james johnson is wonder, james johnson is tomorrow almost an audition for who's going to be the vice presidential candidate? >> well, i think donald donald trump at this trump will be looking at this line—up candidates and line—up of candidates and thinking, want any of thinking, i don't want any of that. these are the ones that he thinks betrayed thinks have betrayed him by going this i think going on this stage. i think he'll looking away from that he'll be looking away from that lot. that's too much bad blood with and ron desantis. you with him. and ron desantis. you know, a of candidates are know, a lot of candidates are standing against him. some of the known voices azar the less known voices like azar hutchinson as doug hutchinson as well as doug burgum, very burgum, are very, very anti trump. wonder actually trump. i wonder whether actually it's lakes of this it's the kari lakes of this world trump might be world that trump might be looking at someone not looking at someone who's not involved this race. he was involved in this race. he was very when very coy a moment ago when i asked her whether she was well, we did a in we did polls in

we did a poll in we did polls in iowa new hampshire recently. iowa and new hampshire recently. and voters, she and amongst trump voters, she and ramaswamy were the top and vivek ramaswamy were the top two choices to be trump's vp. so there's definitely support two choices to be trump's vp. so the kari definitely support two choices to be trump's vp. so the kari definitsupport support two choices to be trump's vp. so the kari definitsupport for)port for kari lake, support for vivek ramaswamy couple of other ramaswamy and a couple of other people out there as well. >> now that is interesting. and |, >> now that is interesting. and i, mentioned question to i, i mentioned the question to carry it to you. carry it. i mentioned it to you. i pretty and what i mean, pretty clear. and what happened hawaii yesterday, i mean, pretty clear. and what happersleepyiawaii yesterday, i mean, pretty clear. and what happersleepy joe iii yesterday, i mean, pretty clear. and what happersleepy joe wasesterday, i mean, pretty clear. and what happersleepy joe was wasiay, i mean, pretty clear. and what happersleepy joe was was was the mean, sleepy joe was was was the name that trump gave him. but it's now becoming literally me, sleepy joe. you know, the guys 80 he's clearly not all that well. and i mean literally if you go to an event to commemorate the death of 300 people, you fall asleep. it's not good. who is there? in democrat polling , there's very few. >> the most likely potential challenger would be gavin newsom . he's the current governor of california. he's actually going up against desantis in debate up against desantis in a debate in november. lot of people in november. but a lot of people don't want up against joe don't want to go up against joe biden. it's the democrats aren't very ruthless. they don't want to step over the thing. to go and step over the thing. over last year, spoke to a over the last year, i spoke to a number democratic strategists number of democratic strategists and they were all saying we've

got biden he's got to get joe biden out. he's too we've to have new too old. we've got to have new blood to beat trump or whoever it might be. now, they're not saying now that he's saying that now that he's announced re—election announced his re—election campaign. what campaign. we asked voters what their is. to sum their number one word is. to sum up biden. and old. and up joe biden. and it's old. and the most cited word the second most cited word incompetent. so that getting incompetent. so that is getting through it's through to voters. and it's really hurt him in a really going to hurt him in a way that didn't in 2020. way that it didn't in 2020. >> it's not a very popular cocktail, is it really? no. well at i would say to at least what i would say to you, johnson, is unlikely. you, james johnson, is unlikely. united least united kingdom, at least there are policy choices that are genuine policy choices that exist two parties in exist between the two parties in america, less so, fear, america, rather less so, i fear, in the james thank you. and in the uk. james thank you. and we'll to lot more. we'll talk to you a lot more. and we're going to be here in america a lot as gb news between now presidential now and that presidential election in 2024. a huge election in 2024. it's a huge story not just in america, but, hey, let's face it, america is the leader of the free world. and in a moment after the break, we'll look at a rather disturbing story sectarianism sub continental sectarianism on the streets of derby over the weekend. all of that in just a

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in the united kingdom kabaddi. >> i wonder whether you've heard of this sport. it's up to 4000 years old. and yes, it comes from the indian subcontinent . from the indian subcontinent. from what i can make out, it's kind of a bit like a subcontinental form of british bulldog is about the nearest analogy that i can draw to it. and there was a game that was being played this weekend up in derby, a ticketed game. a lot of people there and it turned really, really ugly . the finger really, really ugly. the finger of blame is being put on khalistani extremists. and these are a sikh group who have used violence in recent years, who want an independent, separate sikh homeland. have a look at these video footages of what happenedin these video footages of what happened in derby over the weekend . so, you know, you can

weekend. so, you know, you can see people charging around . see people charging around. there's lots of aggression . there's lots of aggression. we're told it's not been confirmed . and we're told that confirmed. and we're told that gunshots were fired. certainly there were people there with swords brandishing swords. i mean, this is worrying now. i've said before on this programme that the politics of the subcontinent is coming to the streets of the uk and we saw this in leicester last summer and this indeed is what we've seen. i believe in derby over the weekend and i'll be honest with you, i'd heard very little about the khalistani movement until just a few two weeks ago. well was it was it as an associate fellow of the centre for radicalisation and terrorism at our friends , the henry at our friends, the henry jackson society and was he joins me down the line now was he help us as i said i honestly i hadn't really heard much about this khalistani movement . can you

khalistani movement. can you please just inform our viewers? yes absolutely. >> thank you, nigel. so the khalistani movement is a movement mainly based around sikhism, and it is a fringe element of sikhs who are looking to create their own state within the punjab region of india and to actually annexe it away from from india . and now what we've from india. and now what we've seen here in derby is that some of that influence and some of what has been happening over in punjab seems to have been spilled over because we've seen evidence of khalistani flags there and not only that, we've seen also some of the weapons that have been used, for example, swords or metal rods and apparently also gunshots being fired. now, this is really, really serious. and the british government the home office, need to take this quite seriously because it seems to have gone under the radar because a lot of resources have

been perhaps given too much to the far right. for example . the far right. for example. >> well, it's certainly it certainly wasn't on my radar as i say, until very, very recently. would it be fair? would it be reasonable ? and tell would it be reasonable? and tell me either way to describe some of the methods that the khalistan movement have used in the subcostal element? would it be fair to describe them as a terrorist organisation or is that going a step too far ? that going a step too far? >> not necessarily me. there will be elements of it that can meet the threshold of our definition of terrorism. so based on the terrorism act 2000. so if they are looking to pursue a political cause and use violence to achieve those aims, then yes, they would be meeting then yes, they would be meeting the threshold of terrorism. now there are certain within the movement who have been described as terrorist groups. for example, babbar khalsa have been proscribed as a terrorist group.

so what we need to do is we need to figure out what happened in derby. was that actually a political movement through the use of violence? and if so , we use of violence? and if so, we need to look to find out who the main perpetrators are and start using our laws to bring them to account . account. >> yes, i agree with that. but there's one other element here that hasn't been debated or discussed anywhere , but i think discussed anywhere, but i think it's worthy of mention and that is this what we've seen over the course of this year are a much larger numbers of number of sikhs crossing the english channelin sikhs crossing the english channel in those dinghies. now i do not know. i haven't got a clue whether some of those that are coming could be associated with this khalistan movement. do you know anything about that? and what on earth should we do ? and what on earth should we do? because surely we need to know . because surely we need to know. >> well, absolutely. i think anyone who comes into our country, into into great britain, we need to know who they are. we need to know if

they are. we need to know if they have a criminal past. and as soon as we do, we need to be able to use our laws appropriately and proportionately to deal with them. now just based on some of them. now just based on some of the people who have come not necessarily sikhs, but just generally who have come over from other countries, over 200 of them have been sent back and they were foreign, national offenders. 30 of them were asylum offenders , and 85 of them asylum offenders, and 85 of them were non asylum offenders. and 15 of them had actually come from the small boats crisis that we're currently dealing with. and that is a major security issue that we're facing. so it's not just khalistan extremists that we're to going be dealing with. we're also going to be deaung with. we're also going to be dealing with romanian drug gangs who have come in 2017. i don't know if your viewers remember there was a gang war that was taking place in east london when one of them was killed. so we do have a really difficult task on our hands and we do need to secure our borders and know who's coming in. now i get that

was wasiq. >> thank you forjoining us >> thank you for joining us again here on gb news. and it's again here on gb news. and it's a funny thing, but if you talk about those that are coming into the country illegally and you talk about their association with criminal gangs, you talk about potential links, in some cases proven to terrorism, you are shouted down, you are condemned, you are the most awful human being on earth. and yet i've always thought the biggest single problem we face with what's happening in the engush with what's happening in the english channel, frankly, is the threat of terrorism, is the threat of terrorism, is the threat to our national security in a moment, a by british initiative of something that couldn't really happen . all the couldn't really happen. all the while, we were members of the single market is being supported by 100 members of parliament. and we'll be joined in a moment by the black farmer, wilfred emmanuel—jones

to what the families say. >> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> 100 members of parliament have written to the big

supermarkets to say , given that supermarkets to say, given that so many people now, of course, do shop online and you see delivery vans absolutely everywhere to say to them on their websites , let's have their websites, let's have a special buy british section, let's encourage consumers to buy british cherries when they're in season rather than imported ones. and i guess it's something that our farmers are smallholders as our fishermen and others would actively encourage. i was always amused dunng encourage. i was always amused during our years of membership of the european economic community , economic community community, economic community and then the european union. but of course we couldn't do that because that would be discriminating against other members of the single market. so is there potentially potentially a brexit benefit here for british farming and for british fishing ? and british farming and for british fishing? and is this a good positive move? well, 100 mps have signed it, including some very senior figures like hilary benn from the labour party . i benn from the labour party. i think they're absolutely right. i believe step in the i believe it is a step in the right direction, will

right direction, but will it really make difference ? but really make any difference? but i'm to be joined by i'm very pleased to be joined by a friend of the program, wilfred emmanuel jones mp , entrepreneur, emmanuel jones mp, entrepreneur, and of course the black farmer at wilfred. welcome back to the program. is this a good initiative ? initiative? >> this is a fantastic initiative, nigel. i must say i do like those shades. you look really cool in your sunglasses. i just thought, god, that looks good. it's a fantastic . and i good. it's a fantastic. and i just think that i would like to see the supermarkets go much further than just actually having a page on their website and explaining to consumers to buy british. i think it should extend to be actually in the supermarkets themselves because one of the problems i think we have in this industry is that the supermarkets are the gatekeepers to the relationship with the people who produce foods and farmers and i've just come back, believe it or not,

from from from the netherlands. and i like to go and look at supermarkets when i'm in other countries and what was really interesting is that packs of their products had faces that their products had faces that the actual farmers unpacked , the actual farmers unpacked, which again helps the consumer to have a relationship with the people who are producing their foods. what might surprise you is that people who buy the black farmer see that i'm farmer brand will see that i'm carrying the union. jack holding up high and i can remember when ilaunched up high and i can remember when i launched that people just thought actually that i was being jingoistic, that i'm their holding this flag proudly. but i think the food is so important to us that this is something that the supermarket should be doing and sort of encouraging . doing and sort of encouraging. so i think all of the mps should be signing this and a lot more needs to be there to help the consumers make the choice because i fundamentally believe that if consumers had the choice to choose between buying something that is british or something that is british or something that is imported, they would buy british all of the time . but nigel, the other thing

time. but nigel, the other thing i'd like to say is this is that what we mustn't forget is that most of the food that we consume in this country is consumed outside the home. and therefore there's a lot more that can be donein there's a lot more that can be done in what they call food service than with the supermarkets. and most of the food that is imported actually goes into food service . i would goes into food service. i would bet you that if you're buying your sandwich or you're getting your sandwich or you're getting your sandwich or you're getting your sandwich from from a work canteen or somewhere like that, that would be flown over from the likes of poland and thailand. there's a lot more we should be demanding from those in food service to be supporting british farmers . and they're british farmers. and they're getting away with it because no , i agree that the focus is on on supermarkets . on supermarkets. >> no, i get that. and you know, the idea that you buy your chicken sandwich from a well known chain is actually the way in thailand . i think people in thailand. i think people deserve to know . wilfred deserve to know. wilfred struggling to hear me. wilfred can you hear me ?

can you hear me? >> i think i think i've lost. >> i think i think i've lost. >> okay . i was just saying, >> okay. i was just saying, i agree with that. we've lost sound with wilfred. never mind. we had him for a short period of time and he's absolutely brilliant. i love him. i love his passion for british farming. it's absolutely superb. and i have to say he's his products and his sausages are really very, very good indeed, as is the vodka that he produces. so he's a proper entrepreneur now. ulez. it's all happening. yep. it's going to come in next tuesday . that greater extended tuesday. that greater extended zone around the outside of london and there's just way too much talk that it's affecting people living in or especially on the edges of greater london and those on lower incomes generally who've got cars that don't qualify. and we're not talking anything like enough. you know, we were up in luton, which is a fair way from london doing a farage at large some time ago. and a lot of people there, particularly sole traders

running their own delivery vans , really concerned this , really concerned about this extra £12.50 a day cost that with, by the way, as we've learned this week. absolutely no difference to air quality whatsoever . so it's very, very whatsoever. so it's very, very interesting to see the council leader of hertfordshire, richard roberts, has said he will not have any signs put up in hertfordshire saying you're entering a ulez zone. he says to do so would be to would be in fact to condone sadiq khan plan any trouble. whether it is if you drive across the border and get fined £12.50 you could argue you hadn't been warned, but i understand what richard roberts is trying to do now. i've got wilfred back on the line . wilfred back on the line. wilfred, as ever , the farming wilfred, as ever, the farming and politics are very close together. there are stories we've had from the netherlands where you've just been we're getting from ireland that actually, as part of our effort

to combat climate change, farmers are going to be asked to make big reductions in livestock. do you believe that to be true? >> well, i don't know whether it's true or not, but i think it's true or not, but i think it's going to be a mistake. and i think the thing that we all have to learn is the lesson that the ukraine and russian conflict has demonstrated is that if you think you're going to be able to feed the nation by relying on exports, you could end up in a very, very vulnerable situation. and i would like to see the government put a lot more emphasis in making sure that our food chain is very secure. and the only way you're going to do thatis the only way you're going to do that is by encouraging more entrepreneurs to go into farming and to for people to see that actually the food should be really at the top of our agenda. and also often it's very, very low down. and i would like to see that changed.

>> i agree with that. wilfred thank you. i think one thing the ukraine war has shown us is the energy security and food security really do matter. well in a moment, we'll head back to the crooked house pub. remember the crooked house pub. remember the one that was mysteriously had a fire and then was knocked down and will also talk to a parent from a school in hull, a pre—school in hull, who's withdrawn his four year old child because of inappropri veut sexual material. all of that after a

break you remember the story of the crooked house pub? yeah, that building that was put up in 1765 just outside dudley in the west midlands and mysterious only it had a fire. and then within moments it seemed the wrecking ball had come in to demolish it , and there were alternative plans for the site. well, there's an inspiration that those that want to see that

rebuilt have got. and it is the carlton tavern in maida vale in london. now, this pub had survived attacks by zeppelins and had survived the blitz in world war ii, mysteriously a wrecking ball arrived and knocked it down. there were plans, unscrupulous plans to redevelop it, and after much protest it was rebuilt. brick by brick. and that's the inspiration that people have got at the crooked house pub now, as trucks attempt to move in to clear away the rubble, we have local protesters sitting in the road. they want their community pub back. jack carson, west midlands reporter gives us a live update right now from the scene . yeah good evening, nigel. scene. yeah good evening, nigel. >> here at the site of the crooked house, as you mentioned, those professional demolition teams moved in last night. locals here protested the moving in of those diggers. locals here protested the moving in of those diggers . lots of in of those diggers. lots of worries from local people here that there were, of course, going to start taking those

bncks going to start taking those bricks away, those bricks that these people here are campaigning to have this place rebuilt. by brick, not rebuilt. brick by brick, not wanting to lose anything from this site. of course, there's been meetings local been lots of meetings with local mp mark long and of course sir gavin williamson as well. the council involved in council very heavily involved in this well, as well of this as well, as well as of course, these campaign teams. paul joins me from one of paul turner joins me from one of the campaigns to save this crooked house. paul, tell me a little bit about about what's kind of changed in the last couple of weeks in this whole campaign. well there's been a lot of concern about what was actually going to happen with the site . the site. >> that concern raised got >> and that concern raised got raised to a crescendo yesterday when diggers moved in and people were worried that we were going to lose all the original material, which we would hope would available for would be available for a rebuild. what what's happened over the last 24 hours is that we've actually been able to speak to the people we've spoken to the contractors. i had a meeting this morning. the contracts were good and they didn't have to, but they were good to wait until after

good enough to wait until after my before they my meeting with them before they started they didn't have started work. they didn't have to that. they'd met with the to do that. they'd met with the council. the had agreed council. the council had agreed the work, but they wanted to reassure as campaign group. reassure us as a campaign group. they reassure us that they wanted to reassure us that things going happen in a things were going to happen in a way would make us happier. way that would make us happier. so we sat down with them this so we i sat down with them this morning, had a meeting . they morning, had a meeting. they showed the method statement . showed me the method statement. i the owner of the i met with the owner of the construction company and the person who's acting as the sort of overseeing the whole thing from a risk management company. and they they, they reassured me and they told me everything that was going be done. and there was going to be done. and there had been various statements released places released today in various places by by different authorities and by by different authorities and by me to say that what they're doing and what they're basically doing and what they're basically doing is they're going to carefully remove bricks that clean those bricks , put them clean those bricks, put them aside on pallets , any waste aside on pallets, any waste that's going to be taken from the site , he's going to be left the site, he's going to be left for the council to inspect before it's taken off site. >> yeah. so how reassuring is

that then? because of course, we know your campaigns to get this rebuilt brick by brick. of course, there were those sit in protests last night. there are still people here around us here making sure watching these people go about their work. how reassured are you that they're keeping to their word and they're to what they've they're keeping to what they've told meetings told you in these meetings today? >> reassured. i mean, i've >> i'm reassured. i mean, i've got phone numbers got their phone numbers they've sent photographs sent me sending me photographs of going on. just of what's going on. i've just had photograph to me by had a photograph sent to me by the by the owner of putnam. they're keeping me informed and they've given me free access to i can go and meet with them at any point. i can call them at any point. i can call them at any point. i can call them at any point. and they're going to keep updated . they've come keep us updated. they've come out gate here, to the out to the gate here, to the fence here and spoken to people and them videos because and shown them videos because one person complained, i can't see happening the see what's happening around the corner he went and got corner there. so he went and got video and brought it back to show so they're doing show her. so they're doing everything they make sure everything they can to make sure that are reassured . that people are reassured. >> when it comes the >> and when it comes to the campaign, mean, what as campaign, i mean, what as a group of you come together to

decide what ultimately is the next step for you? as next step for you? now, as a campaign, it's very difficult to know the know exactly what order the steps going be in because steps are going to be in because there's of legal there's still a lot of legal stuff to sort. >> there's a lot of planning stuff we're waiting for stuff to sort. we're waiting for the do various things the council to do various things which don't have full which we don't have full understanding of exactly what's going so waiting for going on. so we're waiting for updates things. but going on. so we're waiting for updultimate things. but going on. so we're waiting for updultimate aim things. but going on. so we're waiting for updultimate aim isthings. but going on. so we're waiting for updultimate aim is tongs. but going on. so we're waiting for updultimate aim is to haveiut going on. so we're waiting for updultimate aim is to have the the ultimate aim is to have the crooked house back there as close as possible to the original crooked house. >> all right, paul, thank you so much joining us this much for joining us this evening. can hear evening. as you can hear from from and the from paul speaking there and the people surrounding us, this campaign still very active campaign is still very active and people trying to save and these people trying to save the crooked house. >> jack carson, great report. i have to say, i'm on the side of the protesters. we want to see that pub rebuilt brick by brick, whether they can replace the crookedness remains to be seen. now let's go to hull in east yorkshire. i hope you're sitting down. i find this story pretty shocking . you see will and maria shocking. you see will and maria taylor have a four year old daughter who was in nursery

school. she was then shown as part of pride month. my material that i think most of you will think was highly inappro appropriate. yeah, it's actually gay bondage stuff. and i'm quite why we think it's appropriate to show this to four year old kids. i simply don't know. i think will taylor, who joins me down the line, took much the same view. will, could you believe your daughter was being shown this stuff ? this stuff? >> no , i absolutely couldn't. >> no, i absolutely couldn't. thank you, nigel, for having us on. i had to go and see it for myself. so another parent sent us images through whatsapp saying , have you seen what's in saying, have you seen what's in this book? this is horrific. and so the following day, without hesitation, i took my daughter to nursery and i honestly assumed that the nursery would just admit a mistake, that they would just apologise and say, oh, we're so sorry . we didn't oh, we're so sorry. we didn't spot that and just be highly embarrassed. but what actually happened next? just truly horrified me. people that i had

trusted with the education of both my son and my daughter, people i'd known for years started to say to me that these images were completely appropriate. appropriate because they said the child would not see it as erotic. they said, you can see it as erotic. and that's your opinion. you're an adult. that's your perception . we could that's your perception. we could see it as erotic because we're adults, but a child doesn't know any better and therefore it's okay. they'll just see it as a form of dress up . and they form of dress up. and they actually compared it to dressing up like a princess. and a knight in shining armour and spent 45 minutes trying to get this across to them. but keeping in mind that within 60s, the safeguarding lead just stormed off, upset and offend added at me, raising a safeguarding concern . but i spent 45 minutes concern. but i spent 45 minutes trying to explain to them that there are lots of things that we can do as adults which a child might not understand. for

example , i might use a swear example, i might use a swear word, which is inappropriate, but the child doesn't understand it. that doesn't make it okay. if jimmy savile if jimmy savile decided to get his todger out and start to gratify himself in front of the child, i dare say a 3 or 4 year old child wouldn't understand what was going on. but that doesn't make that okay. okay. so. so within within minutes that imagery is quite what we need. >> but will i get it? i get it. and so you chose to take your daughter out of this nursery ? daughter out of this nursery? >> well, it wasn't my plan. i honestly expected that they would just apologise and that would just apologise and that would be the end of the matter. but within seconds i soon realised that these two adults that i had in front of me, the nursery staff, the manager and assistant manager, that they did not have a clue, despite all of their safeguarding their experience of safeguarding training, no how their experience of safeguarding tra decide no how their experience of safeguarding tra decide what no how their experience of safeguarding tra decide what is no how their experience of safeguarding tra decide what is age how to decide what is age appropriate . they think it's up appropriate. they think it's up to child and whether the to the child and whether the child understands it to be sexual. so as soon as as soon as sexual. 50 as 50011 as as 50011 as i sexual. so as soon as as soon as i realised that , i thought, i realised that, i thought, i can't leave it here, i just

can't leave it here, i just can't leave it here, i just can't leave it. i don't trust you anymore with my daughter. what else has she so , i what else has she seen so, i mean, we argued the case. it was a very fractious, very difficult conversation. there was lots of emotion on their part . and they emotion on their part. and they really did try to play the whole you're being offensive . what's you're being offensive. what's wrong with these images ? he's wrong with these images? he's just expressing himself. it really did try to play that card and that just didn't wash with me at all. and then i took her out of the nursery and submitted a complaint to the to the trustee . trustee. >> well, i have to say quite right, too, will, thank you for coming on and sharing that rather disturbing story. but it's one. but we need to talk about this stuff and we need some real change. thank you. now, de—banking . no, it's not now, de—banking. no, it's not just a british phenomenon . it's just a british phenomenon. it's happening here in the usa too. and today has brought a de—banking story. and today has brought a de—banking story . yep. there's de—banking story. yep. there's a charity called the indigenous advanced ministries. they're based in memphis. they are a religious charity, deeply

religious charity, deeply religious group of people, and they have received a letter from bank of america telling them that their business type we have chosen not to service bank of america. do not want this. christian charities business anymore. what do this christian charity do ? well, they send charity do? well, they send people and aid and money to orphans in countries like uganda , but they're being cancelled because their funding mental christians, they don't believe in abortion. they don't believe in abortion. they don't believe in gay marriage. and clearly , in gay marriage. and clearly, rather like myself with coots, albeit for different issues, they don't align with the values of the bank and it's it is for these reasons ian's and we'll see how he performs tomorrow but it's for these reasons that i do find vivid ramaswami such an interesting character. he's written a book called woke inc

and he talks about how this time aid has gone through corporate america to this politically correct tide that everything to do with identity, with climate change, with everything else . change, with everything else. and he says what a negative effect it's having on the american economy . we've got american economy. we've got exactly the same disease . so exactly the same disease. so i will be asking over the next couple of days and we'll be asking prominent americans what they make of de—banking happening on this side of the pond. now joining me down the line live from the london studio is the ever energetic patrick christys patrick. what have you got coming up for us this evening? >> well, nigel, it's a pleasure to hand over back to tom cruise over there in america. remarkable stuff. but look, on more serious matters or more serious matters, a man who was given a life sentence for a crime, he says he doesn't commit is to going be with me on this show telling me what life will be like as a child killer for lucy letby in prison. harry redknapp me discuss the redknapp joins me to discuss the lionesses snubbing fans. lionesses snubbing their fans.

i've drag queen to talk i've got a drag queen on to talk about bondage book for four about that bondage book for four year which absolute year olds, which is absolute insane ask me. deviant insane if you ask me. deviant behaviour and taxpayers will end up footing a £6 billion a year for bill illegal migrants. why? because we can't deport anybody. so there we go. all to play for tonight. nigel excellent. >> patrick thank you . and i'll >> patrick thank you. and i'll be back with you live from this same location tomorrow evening at 7 pm. uk time. same location tomorrow evening at 7 pm. uk time . and we're at 7 pm. uk time. and we're getting ready for this debate there are eight of them in this runoff. and with or without trump, there's going to be his presence. will still be felt very strongly on that stage. so until 7:00 tomorrow evening, live from here in wisconsin , live from here in wisconsin, let's have a look. i wonder whether the weather is as nice at home as it is here. >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good evening. i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather

update from the met office for gb news tomorrow , most places gb news tomorrow, most places will have a fine day , some will have a fine day, some places seeing quite a bit of sunshine, others fairly sunshine, others staying fairly cloudy. warmest conditions cloudy. the warmest conditions in the south close to this area of pressure. we've had of high pressure. we've had a bit north south split bit of a north south split today. further has today. the low further north has been bringing cloud and been bringing more cloud and a fair few showers. still some of those evening, those around this evening, particularly central particularly across central and southern clearing southern scotland, but clearing away. so most of us will have a dry night. there'll be some lengthy, clear spells, perhaps clouding over somewhat across south wales as we head through the hours. it'll be the early hours. it'll be another night in south, another warm night in the south, but than last but a bit colder than last night. further north, temperatures certainly across northern scotland, well down into single figures , but it into single figures, but it should a bright start here. should be a bright start here. maybe over the maybe the odd shower over the northern we'll more northern isles. we'll see more showers day across showers through the day across west some more west and scotland and some more cloud across the western half of wales with some light rain and drizzle possible particularly so through the morning. good through the morning. but a good part england, part of southern england, eastern and northern eastern england and northern england seeing some decent spells sunshine. a warmer day spells of sunshine. a warmer day across the north—east of england, too warmest in the

south, 25 to 26 degrees where it's cloudier. temperatures more likely to be in the high teens. now, thursday's a bit of a mish mash rain clearing away from scotland and northern ireland brightening here. but there brightening up here. but there is some is the potential still for some heavy across the south. heavy showers across the south. just risk this stage if just a risk at this stage if you've got plans in the south on thursday, keep up to with thursday, keep up to date with the forecast still quite warm and here. again, elsewhere and humid here. again, elsewhere , teens , temperatures, high teens or low 20s. for now . low 20s. bye for now. >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news

news >> hello. good evening. it's me, patrick christie's identifying as the formidable jacob rees—mogg on a special bumper edition of state of the nation. researchers at the institute for pubuc researchers at the institute for public policy research have claimed that if the illegal migration bill goes ahead £6

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