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news headlines. >> good afternoon. it's just after 3:00. i'm lisa hartle in the newsroom . >> hello . now, before we get >> hello. now, before we get stuck into our debates over the next hour, let's introduce you to my panel. that was we've got a surprise for you, actually, because it wasn't actually christine hamilton who is coming up with danny kelly. but up later with danny kelly. but now i have the former editor of labourlist, peter edwards, on my left. and the former brexit party mep mep , even ben habib on

party mep mep, even ben habib on my right. here's what we're going to be discussing and debating with these two over this hour. former culture secretary nadine dorries has finally quit the commons. some two months after she pledged to do with immediate effect . she do so with immediate effect. she blasted the prime minister and a resignation letter saying he had the fundamental principles of conservatism but was the government she was part of really conservative. she criticised rishi sunak for not being conservative enough, but was boris johnson this coming tuesday will be the expansion of london mayor sadiq khan's ultra low emission zone. if your vehicle doesn't meet the ulez emission standards and isn't exempt, you need to pay a £12 £50 daily charge to drive within the zone. however there are now even reports of a secret labour plan to charge drivers by the mile. is this just the start of khan's plans for a cashless society .7 he and labour have also society? he and labour have also ruled out a wealth tax if it were to win power at the next

general election. this means no higher levies on property capital gains and top earners , capital gains and top earners, another policy ruled out. but what exactly are the policies that ruling in a gb news exclusive of this week revealed that young british women often apparently drunk and sometimes in states of undress , are being in states of undress, are being featured in adverts by people smuggling gangs. i'll be asking, are people smugglers a threat to women ? and yet another brexit women? and yet another brexit war? this time over gibraltar. who have accused the spanish government of introducing new strict measures without warning? that's coming up in the next houn that's coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing by emailing gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. as i say, tweet me at. gb news. as i say, fears boris johnson , ally and fears boris johnson, ally and former culture secretary nadine dorries finally announced that she would quit the house of commons yesterday , even some two

commons yesterday, even some two months after pledging to quit with immediate effect. it wasn't really immediate, was it? in a resignation letter, she blasted the prime minister, accusing him of abandoning the fundamental principles of conservatism. she says history will not judge you kindly, she said. since you took office a year ago , the country office a year ago, the country has run by a zombie parliament where nothing meaningful has happened. right. let's get straight into it. welcome again to my panel, former editor of labourlist peter edwards and the former brexit party mep ben habib. now now that story there, nadine dorries . ben, i'll start nadine dorries. ben, i'll start with you. she says there rishi sunakis with you. she says there rishi sunak is abandoned. the fundamental principles of conservatism. i mean, didn't bofis conservatism. i mean, didn't boris johnson do that? well, i mean, as you read her letter and you reflect on the last 3 or 4 years of government, that's the that's the thing that keeps resonating in my mind. >> boris johnson made a whole load of pledges in the manifesto in 2019. a lot of them i was to

going say, observed in the breach, effectively broken , the breach, effectively broken, the most fundamental of which was, as you may expect me to say, he promised that the country would leave the eu as one united kingdom, but actually he put a border down the irish sea, now reconfirmed rishisunak, border down the irish sea, now reconfirmed rishi sunak, wins reconfirmed by rishi sunak, wins a framework . a lot of the a framework. a lot of the criticism nadine dorries makes of rishi sunak is accurate, but it's equally accurate applied to bofis it's equally accurate applied to boris johnson. and of course she's a great fan of boris johnson. one of the things that i find so endearing about nadine is the goggle eyed , almost gaga is the goggle eyed, almost gaga adoration she had for boris. is the goggle eyed, almost gaga adoration she had for boris . you adoration she had for boris. you know, it was a loyalty i've seen. i know, it was a loyalty i've seen.ii know, it was a loyalty i've seen. i i don't think i've ever seen. i i don't think i've ever seen it from an mp to a prime minister before. and we're all aware of it, though, aren't we? and and you know, the other thing, i think that comes across to me from her letter is , is she to me from her letter is, is she didn't resign as a point of principle when rishi sunak became prime minister. she didn't resign a few months didn't even resign a few months later. she resigned when it became the enablement became clear that the enablement that had been promised to her by

bofis that had been promised to her by boris johnson going go boris johnson wasn't going to go through said, i'm going through and she said, i'm going to resign with immediate effect. at as the mp for at the same time as the mp for selby and ainsty resigned for the reason then the same reason and then they and she didn't go, not and then she didn't go, not because she felt an obligation to her constituents or to the conservative party or, you know , dare i say it, the country she didn't go because she wanted to keep position in parliament keep her position in parliament in order to be able to ask the questions she wanted answered about nobleman. about her nobleman. >> briefly then on that, >> so just briefly then on that, a nobleman you were a nobleman point. if you were rishi ben , would you rishi sunak, ben, would you actually saying, look , i was actually be saying, look, i was absolutely right to not allow that to go ahead? >> yeah. so understand it, >> yeah. so as i understand it, as i understand it, the reason her nobleman was not given to her nobleman was not given to her was because she wasn't prepared stand down prepared to stand down effectively within six months of it being granted . and she wanted it being granted. and she wanted to stay until the general to stay on until the general election then immediately election and then immediately be, you know , a, you know, be, you know, a, you know, ennobled and she wasn't given that right. so she stepped down. and that's against the rules. and that's against the rules. and so there is a sort of it

smacks of self—interest , really smacks of self—interest, really a lot of it. peter turning to you, are you not a bit sad that this former nurse, liverpudlian lass, you know, someone on the green benches who maybe isn't like an oxbridge ppe graduate , like an oxbridge ppe graduate, but do you worry that actually with the loss of people like nadine dorries at parliament will be poorer ? will be poorer? >> well, that's a really good question and she is a former nurse and i was thinking about that this week, but she has acted out of self—interest and her constituents down ordinarily see a politician of any party or senior official often say tough times, but i'm carrying on out of principle, she said the opposite. she said, tough times, but i'm carrying on out of self—interest, which is to find out going to be made a out if i'm going to be made a member of the house of lords or not. so that's by anyone's not. so that's wrong by anyone's standards. i think i think standards. but i think i think you're right highlight the you're right to highlight the point background. i mean, point about background. i mean, by i didn't to by the way, i didn't go to oxbridge or study ppe either, but do need a diverse but but we do need a diverse parliament and imagine she parliament and i'd imagine she and disagree on nearly and i disagree on nearly

everything. she was former everything. but she was a former nurse, very poor nurse, had a very poor upbringing, was a upbringing, and she was from a different the country. different part of the country. liverpool somewhere where i've got was got family roots and she was eviscerating cameron got family roots and she was evis�*george cameron got family roots and she was evis�*george osborne. cameron got family roots and she was evis�*george osborne. remember and george osborne. remember posh boys who can't buy a price and george osborne. remember pomilk»ys who can't buy a price and george osborne. remember po milk at who can't buy a price and george osborne. remember po milk at the» can't buy a price and george osborne. remember po milk at the height. uy a price and george osborne. remember po milk at the height. and price of milk at the height. and crucially was the at the crucially that was at the at the point of austerity when it was at its peak. so i'm i'm not fan. >> and i think she's burnt her own reputation a bit. >> but she was also a breath of fresh air. >> so on the point of >> so on the whole point of where this puts the conservative party , penn by—election party, penn by—election territory , we i mean, i'm not territory, we i mean, i'm not going to ask you to be my mystic, meg, but where do you see this going? do you think it's going to end well for the tories? no, it didn't. markets don't think so. >> and, you just coming >> and, you know, just coming back to what peter was saying, it self—interest, it smacks of self—interest, doesn't not doesn't it? because it's not going to the conservative going to help the conservative party, down. she party, her standing down. she may have a majority, may have a 25,000 majority, which on which looks big, but on electoral calculus levels, anything a 28,000 majority anything under a 28,000 majority at moment for conservative at the moment for conservative seat looks like it could be lost. that's how unpopular the conservatives have become. so she hasn't done the conservative

party any any favours . she party any any favours. she hasn't her constituents any hasn't done her constituents any favours. her obligation favours. her primary obligation . let's just remind everyone her primary obligation is to the constituents of mid—bedfordshire and so it's in no one's interest that at state expense we now have to run a by—election only a year ahead of what's going to be a general election . but of a general election. but of course, i think she , the course, i think she, the conservative party, will lose that by—election >> and peter, just finally on this, you think there is such this, do you think there is such a thing as a safe seat anymore? >> yes , i think there is, >> yes, i think there is, perhaps because i've lost some of them for labour. >> i stood in in maldon in essex against john whittingdale. so that's safe tory against john whittingdale. so that'si safe tory against john whittingdale. so that'si can safe tory against john whittingdale. so that'si can tell safe tory against john whittingdale. so that'si can tell you afe tory against john whittingdale. so that'si can tell you from )ry against john whittingdale. so that'si can tell you from my own seat. i can tell you from my own experience. nadine dorries mid—bedfordshire it's about 25,000 and labour has never overturned a majority that large when it's held by a conservative. so it would be literally unprecedented for them to win. i think it's going to be going to come down to the tactical voting thing. there'll

be a surge of activity from labour or lib dems , one or the labour or lib dems, one or the other, and we'll have to see which way the wind is blowing, because i think if you have labour and lib dems going hell for leather, that could help the tories. >> yes. now next up then we're going to turn to london's ultra low emission zone. the expansion of which into effect this of which comes into effect this tuesday. now, if your vehicle doesn't meet the ulez emission standards and isn't exempt, you'll need to pay a £12.50 daily charge to drive within the zone. but many aren't happy with the scheme as they see it as a shameless cash grab by sadiq khan. and there are now even reports of a secret labour plan to charge drivers by the mile as part of that expansion . and this part of that expansion. and this is just the start part of a plan for a cashless society . so let's for a cashless society. so let's see what my panel think, peter. i mean , do you see sadiq khan by i mean, do you see sadiq khan by the way, has denied that there will be a charge per mile. he has said that that's not he tweeted out saying, i don't

recognise these reports, but he would say that, wouldn't he? >> well , look, i've worked for >> well, look, i've worked for a politician that was an mp on the front bench for labour. >> the reality is part of a job of being a researcher or adviser is you work up policy papers on ten different things as nine of them go in the bin and one after. it's been kind of peer reviewed, it gets taken forward. so i wouldn't set too many hares running. fact, there be running. in fact, there might be a paper a drawer in city hall a paper in a drawer in city hall somewhere to somewhere on ulez. it's vital to point out that it was a boris johnson originated policy when he was london mayor and i think there's around 16 clean air zones set up by conservatives around the uk. i know there are obviously opponents and you might be of them, but there might be one of them, but there does to be bit of a does seem to be a bit of a consensus between labour and the tories health tories and the world health organisation are not organisation who are not political at all, that these things the way forward. things are the way forward. >> they were bit useless >> well, they were a bit useless at the start of the pandemic. >> the world health organisation, weren't they? where the evidence and where was the evidence and science then? >> world >> i think everyone in the world

was surprise by covid was taken by surprise by covid because so because it was so big. >> well, they were a bit in hock to the chinese communists, if you me. but mr habib, where you ask me. but mr habib, where then? ulez you stand? then? on ulez do you stand? because this to me it suggests that actually not only are they anti—science, we had the deputy mayor shirley rodriguez , mayor shirley rodriguez, apparently trying to actually change some of the language , change some of the language, lean on imperial college and professor christopher griffiths. now, do you are you of the view that actually this is both anti science and it's anti motorist? >> well, certainly the science is far from conclusive as it was indeed for a lot of stuff to do with covid. you know, we had a kind of political adoption of a particular sort of science which is what sadiq khan is doing with the ulez thing . tfl produces its the ulez thing. tfl produces its own clean air or contaminate air map, which is a live map that you can look up online and it gives you the quality of air across the across london, greater london, all the way to the m25. and you will see from

it that the areas that are blue are largely outside the very heart of london. and blue is basically clean air. and the vast majority of that area is blue. and what isn't blue is green . and then there's a very green. and then there's a very small orange bit in the middle, which isn't apparently perfectly clear and clean air. so by, by by the by, by the his own stats that he puts out for his own analysis, there isn't a crisis over the quality of air in london. so let's just get that straight then. the other thing is that this is undoubtedly a regressive form of taxation. it hits the working and middle classes much harder than anyone else. people who have to use their car, not their 4x4, to drop johnny at school, but their car to get to the hospital to work as a nurse or to get to heathrow airport or wherever it is that they're working at. and he's had he's got a complete blind spot as far as i can see.

sadiq khan for the constituency that he's meant to represent, he is after all, a member of the labour party. he should be championing the interests of the working and middle classes, but he doesn't do he's got a war he doesn't do it. he's got a war going against the car we see. we've seen that across the board in london with low traffic neighbourhoods extension of bicycle lanes to the point where actually cars have to sit idling because there used to be able to flow easily, but they can't do it mile an hour zones, it now 20 mile an hour zones, which by way, the science which by the way, the science suggests more suggests creates much more carbon than if you carbon emissions than if you move at 30 miles an hour. so here's he's sixes sevens here's he's at sixes and sevens to himself. needs to raise to himself. he needs to raise money. is in financial money. tfl is in financial trouble. i don't believe a word that comes out of sadiq khan's mouth. know, mouth. well i think you know, that's strong stuff. >> peter. the earlier this week on a lesser channel, sadiq khan said that actually he makes comparisons with covid deniers and those who are opposed to ulez. i mean , i don't think ulez. i mean, i don't think those saying , as ulez. i mean, i don't think those saying, as ben's just said, those who are saying actually you grind in london to actually you grind in london to

a halt . and it's not just a halt. and it's not just london, you know, these as you mentioned, the clean air zones are popping up all over the place. do you actually worry that people are being smeared unnecessarily ? unnecessarily? >> no, i mean, i might not use the covid analogy, but i'm a motorist. i drive around london and south east most weeks. london is not grinding to a halt . it's important to point that out. it's really important out. and it's really important to clear. the driver of this out. and it's really important to not clear. the driver of this out. and it's really important to not money. re driver of this out. and it's really important to not money. yes, iver of this out. and it's really important to not money. yes, the of this is not money. yes, the conservatives cut tfl's subsidy from government , but conservatives cut tfl's subsidy from government, but ben from central government, but ben used the phrase not perfectly clean air. but remember ella kissi—debrah a child who died ? kissi—debrah a child who died? >> a second inquest was run an air quality. >> she was named on the death certificate for the first time after a second inquest. so we're not talking about air that is slightly substandard ordered or a bit suboptimal. slightly substandard ordered or a bit suboptimal . all a little bit suboptimal. all we're talking about air that can kill a child. and then i think sadiq khan is trying to do what any does, which is look any leader does, which is look to is for many to the future, which is for many of if we're living, working, of us, if we're living, working, travelling, cycling in london every in that

every day, breathing in that air, what's the impact on our chests 30 years time in chests in 20, 30 years time in terms respiratory health? terms of respiratory health? >> but he doing for clean >> but what's he doing for clean air the underground? peter air in the underground? peter because is because the underground air is foul. feel it when you foul. you can feel it when you get into an underground station. he's go into he's encouraging us to go into underground trains. but actually the air there is awful. and the example you gave, by the way, you don't make government policy on anecdote, one off evidence. you to have you have to have some statistical on to statistical basis on which to make that analysis. >> and an inquest. >> and an inquest. >> it is. is. it is one >> it is. it is. it is one example. >> it's not anecdotal. we have thousands of deaths from road accidents each year. you wouldn't the car wouldn't just ban the car because thousands because there are thousands of road to be road deaths. there's got to be balance to bear in the balance brought to bear in the way that make policy . and way that you make policy. and by, i his own map tfl's by, as i say, his own map tfl's map shows the air to be completely clean . and the vast completely clean. and the vast majority of outer boroughs of london, is no health issue london, there is no health issue driving sadiq khan. and then the science apparently you know the science apparently you know the science came out imperial and all the rest of it saying, well, actually this won't have any impact on climate change, for example.

>> but that's one of the arguments made in favour of it, is it? >> but to me, as someone that lives in london, the primary driver should be health in the here and now. and make one here and now. and i make one other point that ben made other brief point that ben made to points. can't rebut to many points. i can't rebut them all now, but the times, which is not run by a bunch of crazy woke socialist. the times newspaper excellent newspaper did an excellent investigation. a couple years investigation. a couple of years ago quality, particularly investigation. a couple of years agthe quality, particularly investigation. a couple of years agthe inty y, particularly investigation. a couple of years agthe inty ofparticularly investigation. a couple of years agthe inty of london, rly investigation. a couple of years agthe inty of london, and in the inner city of london, and showed the hotspots how dangerous were how it dangerous they were and how it was people's health. dangerous they were and how it wa this people's health. dangerous they were and how it wa this is people's health. dangerous they were and how it wa this is not people's health. dangerous they were and how it wa this is not aeople's health. dangerous they were and how it wa this is not a labour health. dangerous they were and how it wa this is not a labour thing.. so this is not a labour thing. this is a cross society journalism and policy making thing. >> okay, much more to come. thank you both much. you're thank you both very much. you're with darren grimes on gb news on your telly and on digital radio. loads come . will be loads more to come. will be debating the latest brexit war, this time over gibraltar. get your off spain. when will your hands off spain. when will it here is the weather. it end? here is the weather. first of all, that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers are proud sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hey , hello there. >> hey, hello there. >> hey, hello there. >> i'm greg dewhurst and welcome

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election. this means no higher levies on property on capital gains and on top earners, as her party seeks to take hold of the centre ground . well, this is centre ground. well, this is another policy that they've actually ruled out, but i wonder, folks, what are they actually ruling in? what are they going to do if they win power ? let's see what my panel power? let's see what my panel thinks. former editor of labourlist peter edwards and the former brexit party mep ben habib. i think it makes sense to start with you, peter. what are they going to rule in? there seems to be a lot of ruling things out, but what are they going to actually do with power if win it? if they win it? >> well, that's part of the job of opposition to where of opposition to show where you'd i think at you'd be different. i think at a similar stage when david cameron was leader the opposition, was leader of the opposition, he'd made where he'd more made clear where he differed government and differed with the government and went a manifesto. went on to have a manifesto. but, know, i was checking but, you know, i was checking today. for example, labour today. so for example, labour said the on said they'd reform the tax on private equity, which is called carried interest they've carried interest and they've also plan or commitment also got this plan or commitment to breaks on to reduce a tax breaks on independent schools and put that

money into other forms of state education. and wes streeting has asked question something education. and wes streeting has asked would .tion something education. and wes streeting has asked would be1 something education. and wes streeting has asked would be very something education. and wes streeting has asked would be very radical.ng which would be very radical. they committed to they haven't quite committed to it because gp surgeries they haven't quite committed to it run because gp surgeries they haven't quite committed to it run a because gp surgeries they haven't quite committed to it run a bitecause gp surgeries they haven't quite committed to it run a bit like ;e gp surgeries they haven't quite committed to it run a bit like small;urgeries are run a bit like small businesses, he said. there's a case looking at whether gp case for looking at whether gp surgeries into the surgeries are brought into the nhs, which if they went ahead with that, that would a with that, that would be a humongous reform. >> you're not in favour >> i assume you're not in favour of tax? ben obe well, of a wealth tax? ben obe well, i mean when you run out of taxing everything else that you've taxed, you know, you've got taxes at a 70 year post world war ii, high, you have to start looking at imaginative ways to tax and at its heart, of course, the labour party is a wealth redistribution organisation and it doesn't i haven't heard anything thing about how they're going the economy and going to grow the economy and that's only way genuinely to that's the only way genuinely to get country richer and more prosperous. >> it's all about how are they going to redistribute the existing and ever decreasing amount of wealth in the country . and as you say , they're ruling . and as you say, they're ruling lots of things out in order to make themselves appear to be

palatable as we head into the general election. a lot of this, i'm sure, is coming from tony blair, by the way. he's trying to move them. but she does say, look, there have 24 tax look, there have been 24 tax rises in the 13 years of this conservative government. rises in the 13 years of this con i ervative government. rises in the 13 years of this coni mean,3 government. rises in the 13 years of this coni mean, that ernment. rises in the 13 years of this coni mean, that ernmebe music to >> i mean, that must be music to your surely you'll out your ears. surely you'll be out campaigning for at this campaigning for labour at this point. rachel reeves saying point. the rachel reeves saying that, i'm to be that, well, i'm going to be campaigning uk campaigning for reform uk because actually believe because we do actually believe that is the moral obligation that it is the moral obligation of governments to allow you to keep more of your own cash. >> the notion that the government is better able to take your cash and spend it on your behalf is fundamental , your behalf is fundamental, utterly flawed. we all know that we all know that government initiatives, government spending tends be largely wasted , tends to be largely wasted, poorly done with very little return . so why we are captured return. so why we are captured by this philosophy that somehow paying by this philosophy that somehow paying your taxes is a moral correct thing . it's correct thing. it's fundamentally wrong. what government should be doing is allowing us to keep as much of our own tax as possible. and if they could see themselves

towards that, if they could understand that people making it pay understand that people making it pay to work would actually get people into work and working harder, we would then have the growth that we need in this country to propel us forward. but i'm afraid we will see lots of reversals from the labour party if they win office and they will increase the tax burden. >> but i mean pete at the labour party have been quite open on how they want to reform, planning permission and things like actually get like that to actually get nuclear reactors built , to build nuclear reactors built, to build more housing and to do a whole host of whether it be wind turbines and all of these other ideas. going cost ideas. that's going to cost money, not? i wouldn't put money, is it not? i wouldn't put it like that. >> and i think you've kind of answered one of ben's questions, really, which is about growing the economy. it's what when the economy. and it's what when you it's what you build stuff, it's what economists the multiplier economists call the multiplier effect. that means if you build economists call the multiplier efhousingat means if you build economists call the multiplier e1housing development u build a housing development or a factory a power station, it factory or a power station, it creates jobs for the longer term. but actually creates term. but it actually creates supply in supply chain jobs in construction, science construction, in science and so on. if it's housing, it on. and if it's housing, it bnngs on. and if it's housing, it brings to live there and brings people to live there and then work and spend money

then they work and spend money and you've kind of and locally. so you've kind of answered ben's questions answered one of ben's questions about grow the about how do you grow the economy? i think we'd all economy? and i think we'd all agree the planning agree across the panel, planning in is a bit of a mess and in the uk is a bit of a mess and has been a bit of a mess for a long time, as well as being very slow. i want to say a brief word about the politics of it. we've had cost of living had a record cost of living crisis after austerity. whoever gets elected is going to do crisis after austerity. whoever ge'byelected is going to do crisis after austerity. whoever ge'by goingi is going to do crisis after austerity. whoever ge'by going to going to do crisis after austerity. whoever ge'by going to the going to do crisis after austerity. whoever ge'by going to the public, 10 do so by going to the public, promising that will pay more tax. >> yes. i mean, planning permission. peter is right. >> it's absolutely i mean, i've beenin >> it's absolutely i mean, i've been in property since 1994, and i can tell you that in 1994, it was easier. was much easier. >> and the party, the governing party that made planning virtually was tony virtually impossible was tony blair, the period of time that he and his successor, gordon brown, were in office and what used to cost a thousand couple of pounds and a couple of months time to get a planning permission now costs £100,000 and take up between 6 and 9 months. the whole planning system shot to pieces by a very interventionist, very highly regulated tony blair

administration . administration. >> and if tony blair is still behind sir keir starmer, is that going to change? >> no, of course it's not going to change. these people are you know, you about wind know, you talked about the wind turbines nuclear turbines and the nuclear facilities and that's all great, but public state funded but it's all public state funded out of the taxpayers pocket. and we know it's going to cost more than at the than they promised at the beginning. cost. beginning. it's going to cost. we return on equity is we know the return on equity is going be appalling. we know going to be appalling. we know it's be behind schedule it's going to be behind schedule . needis it's going to be behind schedule . need is a vibrant . what we need is a vibrant private sector and sadly , we, private sector and sadly, we, the conservative party, has been utterly hopeless in getting the private sector moving forward over the last 13 years. >> well, ben has a point, does he not, peter, in that look at hs2, for example, way over budget, schedule, and budget, way over schedule, and by the time it's built, i might be a pensioner, hs2 is an be a pensioner, but hs2 is an outlier because as it's so big and i suspect a conservative government traditionally government that's traditionally relied votes in the south has relied on votes in the south has kept going with not because kept going with it, not because of tough economic assessments, because they feel would because they feel it would be politically dangerous to politically very dangerous to kill off a scheme that is perceived to benefit the north,

but actually they're just chipping away it. chipping away at it. >> you know , i used to live >> and, you know, i used to live in i've lived in york in leeds and i've lived in york and they're away at the and they're chipping away at the benefits other very benefits i make. one other very brief if labour brief point, which is if labour need grow the economy and need to grow the economy and i think they they are committed to that, is going to be about that, it is going to be about house building because it helps individuals. come individuals. you know, you come out you pay out of paying your rent, you pay a of mortgage, you're a bit of mortgage, you're building something for the future, generates future, but it generates all those small those jobs, particularly small construction firms in the supply chain. things like chain. so actually things like that stimulating housebuilding are everyone. borrow are good for everyone. so borrow to stimulate house to invest, know, stimulate house building private sector. building in the private sector. it's borrowing. it's not about borrowing. >> we are. it's not about borrowing. >> there we are. it's not about borrowing. >> there are we are. it's not about borrowing. >> there are tens are. it's not about borrowing. >> there are tens ofe. it's not about borrowing. >> there are tens of thousands of builders in the uk. of small builders in the uk. >> edwards, thank you very >> peter edwards, thank you very much. ben habib, we'll come back to you. you're with darren grimes news, on tele and grimes on gb news, on tele and digital radio, filling in for nana akua. we've got loads more to discuss just a gb to discuss in just a mo. a gb news exclusive this week revealed young british news exclusive this week revealeyoften young british news exclusive this week revealeyoften apparentlyish news exclusive this week revealeyoften apparently drunk, women often apparently drunk, are featured in adverts by are being featured in adverts by people smuggling gangs. i'm going asking, are people going to be asking, are people smugglers a threat to women? and in perhaps the latest brexit war, this time over gibraltar,

who have accused the spanish government of introducing new strict border measures without a warning. but first, here's the news headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> darren, thank you very much. and good afternoon. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. nadine dorries has accused rishi sunak of whipping up a public frenzy against her and says she doesn't have the x factor of winning, of a winning prime minister in a blistering resignation letter, the former minister accused mr sunak of demeaning his office by criticising her. she says his government has abandoned conservatism and the 2019 election manifesto , which was election manifesto, which was published before boris johnson, won an 80 seat majority. a by—election will now take place in the usually safe tory seat of mid bedfordshire after labour's shadow for secretary women and equalities, anneliese dodds told gb news that nadine dorries makes some valid points.

>> although i disagree with nadine dorries on many things, when she says that we currently have a zombie parliament and when she asks what rishi sunak stands for and what he's achieved, i think many people will will be saying they don't understand that either. and i think this is incredibly damaging when, as we know , our damaging when, as we know, our is in the middle of a cost of living crisis. we have a crisis in our nhs, prices have crime on our streets, and yet we seem to have a zombie government that just can't get a grip. >> but the veterans minister, johnny mercer, says he doesn't agree with the issues raised by ms dorries . ms dorries. >> she's written a very personal letter to the prime minister and, you know , as again is her and, you know, as again is her right, i think that, you know, you take some aspects in there that i'm familiar with defence spending. she talks about defence spending being cut. i mean, it's just fundamentally not case. you know, when not the case. and you know, when i started in parliament, £38 billion a year is just under £50 billion a year is just under £50 billion a year is just under £50 billion a year. now this prime minister, when he chancellor

minister, when he was chancellor , actually off the , actually signed off the biggest settlement for defence since cold war . since the end of the cold war. >> firefighter >> in other news, firefighter say the government has shown callous disregard for the safety of those on board the bibby stockholm barge . the fire stockholm barge. the fire brigades union has sent a pre action protocol letter to the home secretary outlining its concerns over safety aboard the vessel , which concerns over safety aboard the vessel, which is concerns over safety aboard the vessel , which is currently vessel, which is currently docked at dorset's, portland port. union previously port. the union previously branded the barge a potential death trap. it's now demanding a response to its legal letter. by thursday , russian investigators thursday, russian investigators say genetic tests confirm yevgeny prigozhin died in a plane crash on wednesday . the plane crash on wednesday. the wagner boss was on the passenger list of a private jet that crashed north of moscow months after a failed rebellion against russia's military. mikhail kasyanov was prime minister of russia from 2000 until 2004. he told gb news that prigozhin had put unforgivable pressure on putin over his management of the war in ukraine. >> prigozhin always was a criminal and continue to be a

criminal and continue to be a criminal till the end. and he is, i would say , pressure on is, i would say, pressure on putin was not forgivable by putin. it was clear for me since the first day of this mutiny that prigozhin will not live long. i didn't expect , of long. i didn't expect, of course, that he would be killed and such a demonstrative way as putin did. but definitely it was inevitable . and a breach in the inevitable. and a breach in the nepalese system could cause incalculable damage in the wrong hands. >> that's according to the police federation. scotland yard says it's aware of unauthorised access to the it system of one of its suppliers. they're now working with the company to ascertain whether data may have been breached . the company had been breached. the company had access to names , ranks, photos, access to names, ranks, photos, vetting levels and pay numbers, but not the personal details such as addresses whole life orders without parole would become the norm for dangerous offenders under plans announced by the prime minister, rishi sunak says people rightly expect

that in the most serious cases there should be a guarantee that life will mean life. labour said failed government policies that led to overcrowded prisons, accusing the tories of being soft on crime . now the west of soft on crime. now the west of london is buzzing with fun and celebrations today with the return of the notting hill carnival , a caribbean cultures carnival, a caribbean cultures at the heart of the annual event with food , music, art and other with food, music, art and other attractions bringing visitors to the famously bohemian part of london. the city's mayor, sadiq khan , described the festival as khan, described the festival as part of the very fabric of our city. the carnival takes place today and tomorrow . and finally, today and tomorrow. and finally, monster hunters have heard four distinctive noises during the biggest search for the loch ness monster in half a century. biggest search for the loch ness monster in half a century . these monster in half a century. these pictures are coming to us live from loch ness, where it's a slightly brighter day than yesterday. the research team from edinburgh said the noises were heard using an underwater microphone . international microphone. international interest in the search is high,

with hunters from australia , with hunters from australia, canada and america also taking part . you can get more on all of part. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com. now it's back to . darren back to. darren >> cheers. tatiana you're with me. darren grimes for in nana akua. coming up, we'll be discussing whether people smugglers are a threat to women and another brexit war, this time in gibraltar. don't go anywhere. this is gb news, britain's news

news. the people's channel, britain's news . news. the people's channel, britain's news. channel >> welcome back. thank you very much for your company. you're with darren grimes on gb news in for nana akua this week. gb news exclude revealed that young british women often apparently drunk and sometimes in states of undress , are being featured in undress, are being featured in adverts by people smuggling gangs. adverts by people smuggling gangs . we were handed evidence gangs. we were handed evidence from a cyber contact who was discovered on multiple accounts. he believes are fronts for criminal people smuggling gangs. now, sources claim the videos are being used to entice young males to use the services of gangsin males to use the services of gangs in travelling to europe and the united kingdom. so i want to ask, are people smuggling gangs a threat to british women? let's see what the panel thinks. former editor of labelling east peter edwards

and former brexit party mep ben habib. ben you are someone that has always been very vocal on the issue of small boats and the migrant problem. do you see this as a suggestion that perhaps, dare i say it, there are certain men coming here who don't share our values when it comes to respect for women . respect for women. >> absolutely. i mean , the >> absolutely. i mean, the revelation here, which i hope those who see see the illegal crossing of the channel entirely through a false humanitarian prism . the lesson here for those prism. the lesson here for those people is that this is a sinister activity. it is people smuggling. it is the breaking of international law at the cost of 3 to £5000 per head. it is the encouragement of the breaking of the law. these people, of course, they pose a threat to british women . we don't know who british women. we don't know who they are. we don't know where they are. we don't know where they come from. they chuck their passports in in the channel as

they cross over . they could be they cross over. they could be antipathy btec to the united kingdom's values. they could be as extreme as terrorists for all we know. the way i see it, anyone entering the united kingdom illegally without us having complete knowledge of who they are and why they're here, it presents a threat not just to british women, but to the united kingdom itself. and we've got to get a grip of the problem. so >> so, peter, would you accept that are a threat to maybe that they are a threat to maybe not british women, but to not just british women, but to british people at large, people smugglers, by definition, are a threat to everyone and they're criminals and they're sending men , women and children to sea , men, women and children to sea, often to their death. >> people arrive on our shores, often in a state of hardship, sickness or great distress , some sickness or great distress, some of them fleeing war. and then people smugglers make lot of people smugglers make a lot of money and if people smuggler makes £1 million, that doesn't go in a treasury bill or national savings assessments. it goes more in funding criminal enterprises. this type of enterprises. so this type of activity is a threat to

everyone, but it's a particularly horrifying story. and i also have great sympathy for young women acting legally on a night out, having a few drinks, which are all entitled to do, whose pictures have been taken without their permission or and in marketing. yes >> i mean, on that point, one of our emails, jean has written in and she says a young girls are a danger to themselves. ben she says paralytic , falling says getting paralytic, falling about drunk. you know , the wider about drunk. you know, the wider point there , i certainly don't point there, i certainly don't think , you know, the women who think, you know, the women who haven't given their permission to end up on these feeds , for to end up on these feeds, for example. but is there a wider point there that actually you know, we drink too much as a country ? country? >> i don't think you can equate drinking too much and falling about as a teenager might lead to the kind of criminal activity thatis to the kind of criminal activity that is people smuggling . that is people smuggling. >> and you cannot for a second, somehow i wouldn't even begin to use the word forgive. but somehow see more

sympathetically. yes an attack on these girls simply because they're having a good time as young girls , are they? they are young girls, are they? they are not breaking the law . they are not breaking the law. they are in this country as british citizens going young girls citizens, going out, young girls spreading their feathers, growing like we all did. growing up like we all did. i got drunk when i was younger. oh yes. so now they're entitled to do it and they deserve full. they should. they deserve the right to take the law for granted and that their security is not threatened simply because of their behaviour. as long as they're behaving behaving legally, which they are. >> but you know what? i totally sympathise with people who are emailing in and they are saying, look, i my wits end. i look, i am at my wits end. i don't know who to vote for. i don't know who to vote for. i don't know who to vote for. i don't know what to do. i feel utterly powerless to stop what's happening country. we happening to our country. we they feel a potentially they feel that a potentially maybe be another maybe there'll be another rotherham, for example, where a young girls you know, these sorts of things happen and it's turned a blind eye to you. >> i can a prediction. >> i can make a prediction. absolute now with utter certainty the way we are

locating people of whom we know nothing into rural united kingdom , into dorset, into to kingdom, into dorset, into to essex, into parts of the country where you haven't seen any influx of different cultures in the way that we're now going to experience it. we're going to see dystopia and we will see crimes committed. we will undoubtedly see it. and then we'll be holding our heads in our hands, thinking, how the heck it to this point? heck did it get to this point? it's because we didn't stop the problem first place. we problem in the first place. we have 100,000 people in this country of whom we know very little . and we're told or the little. and we're told or the people are processing their asylum applications are told if you think they're lying, don't too be hard on them. are you aware of that? >> i am. >> i am. >> you know, the guidelines are not to challenge them because they may be coming from a you know, from a war torn country and are in distress. so you can't even challenge them to ask the requisite they're proven to have told a lie, isn't it? >> even if they're proven to have told a lie? i mean, even

peter, you must think that that's a ridiculous. >> i'm a bit worried >> surely i'm a bit worried about this debate. there's a kind farage implication of, kind of farage implication of, quote hordes foreign quote unquote, hordes of foreign criminals coming here. i think we've be realistic about we've got to be realistic about it. i'd spend five it. so i'd rather spend five minutes talking about people that are fleeing war. and yes, there exploitation and there is exploitation and system, it would naive to system, and it would be naive to pretend there pretend otherwise. but there are criminals in the kingdom. criminals in the united kingdom. there prison ins and there have been prison ins and a criminal justice system in britain for centuries. so there is crime in every country and we've got to balance. and it's a very difficult job. i accept for the border force. i think the government have gone out picking culture war battles, but it's a very difficult job. but it's vital we balance the human rights fleeing rape, rights people fleeing rape, sexual and war with sexual exploitation and war with a certain amount of people who are playing by the rules. are not playing by the rules. and remember, the blame ultimately lies with the people smugglers buying the trade. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> we'll have to leave it there. unfortunately but i imagine that one on and on one could have gone on and on and on. now, the government of gibraltar has accused spain of suddenly stricter

suddenly introducing stricter border any border measures without any warning of warning in the process of promised to retaliate with its own tighter measures . the own tighter measures. the measures are said to have caused severe delays at its border , severe delays at its border, saying the spanish hadn't given a satisfactory explanation for doing so. well, this comes after more than two years of stagnant talks between the uk and spain over reaching an agreement on the movement of goods and people in and out of gibraltar after brexit. let's see what the panel think about that one now. ben habib, you are a man that makes my heart sing on brexit because i agree with you totally. let's all. peter, as much as i respect your opinion, peter but on that point , are your opinion, peter but on that point, are you of the view that this is going to end up getting pretty hairy where we're going to see some serious rows over gibraltar and we're all going to see get your mitts off. >> so can i first say how grateful i am to gb news for bringing this subject up? it's not seen in any other news channel. the plight that gibraltar is facing and the

plight gibraltar faces is very similar, if not worse , than the similar, if not worse, than the one that northern ireland has been facing and continues to face. and the agreement or sort of heads of terms that boris johnson signed up with the eu was so vague over gibraltar, but it gave the eu a grappling hook into the flesh of gibraltar just like the northern ireland protocol did into northern ireland and therefore into the united kingdom. and what the eu wished to do is in order to facilitate the easy movement of people across the spanish border, is to place and this is going to make the hair on the back of your neck stand up on end place. frontex badged forces, border force at the points of entry in gibraltar. so we will have eu badged militia effectively be at the point of entry into gibraltar. that's the eu's solution. and we've naturally been resisting that . naturally been resisting that. and what they've done now, which

is so eu is cut up rough and introduce unnecessary checks going into spain. >> so can we therefore then put british officers on the border of france then, you know, would they like it if we did that? >> i mean, that would certainly solve the illegal crossings of the we could stop it like that. >> french could stop that. >> the french could stop that. we're changing but the we're changing subjects, but the french stop it overnight french could stop it overnight if to. if they wanted to. >> are you right >> i mean, are you all right with that? you not think that with that? do you not think that people of gibraltar, peter, have a right to self determination? >> do have a right to >> they do have a right to self—determination. gibraltar is british. british. british. it's not a bit british. and spanish. gibraltar is and a bit spanish. gibraltar is british can agree on british and we can agree on that. i think there's that. and i think there's probably i wouldn't at all claim to be an expert spanish to be an expert on spanish politics, there's an politics, but i think there's an element domestic politicking element of domestic politicking in this because every time a spain, a spanish government has a row with the uk over gibraltar , i'd imagine it plays well. and we know that spain been in we know that spain has been in turmoil. but i think to be honest, i think there might be a bit of consensus in the panel here. i don't buy benz analysis

and have vehement and i don't have this vehement hostility towards eu that hostility towards the eu that some parts of british politics has. but gibraltar is a british overseas territory and long may remain so. but with all the rights and responsibility and safeguards inherent in that, do you think because the argentineans have been making moves as well, or soundings at least on the falkland islands, again, i mean, i know that never goes away. >> you know, it's a tale as old as time. but do you worry that actually maybe it's the british state looking weak on the international stage? is that what's doing this ? what's doing this? >> try not to make >> well, i try not to make everything partisan because it's very but, know, very boring. but, you know, nigel farage said brexit has been a failure . uh, this is one been a failure. uh, this is one manifestation of it. as ben alluded to, boris johnson brokered an agreement as prime minister with the eu then having been exiled for his personal disgrace. he then campaigned against his own agreement. brexit is a mess. this is the reality of it. >> so, ben, this is your fault. >> so, ben, this is your fault. >> so, ben, this is your fault. >> so nigel farage didn't say brexit is a failure. he said

brexit is a failure. he said brexit was a failure in the way that it's been delivered and brexit hasn't actually, for anyone who cares to scrutinise, even the barest detail of it would would realise instantly. brexit has not been delivered because the promise was that the united kingdom would leave the eu. the united kingdom has not left the eu. northern ireland has been left behind. we have a border down the irish sea which is getting starker by the day. the now is implementing the eu now is implementing checks goods coming from checks on goods coming from northern great northern ireland to great britain , something were told britain, something we were told would happen in the we would never happen in the we haven't got brexit. brexit the withdrawal agreement was a disaster because it kind of goes back to what. nadine dorries was saying earlier. boris johnson didn't use his 80 seat majority to deliver brexit and we've done nothing with brexit. what we should have done was jettison the codified form of eu laws , the codified form of eu laws, the codified form of eu laws, the socialist way of governing, which is fundamentally eu and we should have gone back to anglo—saxon principle of everything is permitted unless

it's expressly prohibited , it's expressly prohibited, prohibited and an anglo—saxon form of capitalism with lower regulations, lower taxes championed private enterprise and making the united kingdom nimble, fighting force on the international stage and then the falklands would be entirely safe. and the eu, gibraltar and gibraltar and the eu the other day referred in international communications to the falklands as the malvinas. communications to the falklands as the malvinas . yes, that is as the malvinas. yes, that is disgusting . that is a disgusting. that is a diplomatically hostile move. >> but is it because we're looking we are on the world stage, we are weak on the world stage. >> we should have brexited firmly with confidence and we should have left the eu. they need us more than we need them and that fact. what we've and that is a fact. what we've got is a political class that doesn't believe in itself, doesn't believe in itself, doesn't believe in itself, doesn't believe people doesn't believe in the people of this doesn't believe in this country, doesn't believe in this country, doesn't believe in this country, doesn't believe in proper is proper borders, and is a complete waste of space is complete utter waste of space is the only way to describe it. so, peter, is the answer to this then to have superstar to save then to have superstar to save the day and make us look big and strong on the international

stage. >> you think closer ties with the european union, for example? >> well, all, i just >> well, first of all, i just want to pick ben's point. want to pick up on ben's point. the is safe in british the falklands is safe in british hands. it's really important to make that when men and make that clear when men and women lost their lives women have lost their lives fighting our country. the fighting for our country. so the falklands is safe and again, long remains so. you make long may it remains so. you make another point about what would prime keir starmer prime minister keir starmer look like? does want a bit like? i think he does want a bit closer you think closer cooperation. if you think about, truss, about, you know, liz truss, a quote unquote champion of brexit, being asked if we were friends with france, said friends with france, she said the still out, given the the jury is still out, given the migrant crisis. that migrant crisis. i think that looks a very crass comment. well we're billion, are we're paying half a billion, are we're paying half a billion, are we not, the french? we not, to the french? >> and they don't seem be >> and they don't seem to be doing with it to stop those doing much with it to stop those boats . boats. >> remember how much >> i can't remember how much we're may the we're paying you may have the stats hand, but i think we stats to hand, but i think we are now actually some are now actually have some british police a limited british police with a limited presence the question presence in france. the question on is , you think we need on that is, do you think we need to that you say to double that or do you say it's not working and try something else? >> i mean, in a word, ben, do you think that would you actually say, you actually go as far to say, you still agree liz truss on still agree with liz truss on that sentiment? >> i mean, the

>> completely. i mean, the minute we voted for brexit, france was out to punish the united they said the united kingdom. they said the united kingdom. they said the united has suffer. united kingdom has to suffer. macron record saying macron is on the record saying the to suffer if it the uk has to suffer if it leaves the club we've paid leaves the club and we've paid them million. just be them £670 million. just to be clear, and promised to pay clear, paid and promised to pay for they are not for a problem they are not solving. the more people they send money we give send us, the more money we give them. waste money. them. outrageous waste of money. >> of my viewers would >> if any of my viewers would say that. but peter edwards, the former of labourlist and former editor of labourlist and ben there, former ben habib, just there, former brexit party thank you to ben habib, just there, former bre1pairarty thank you to ben habib, just there, former bre1pair ofy thank you to ben habib, just there, former bre1pair of you. thank you to ben habib, just there, former bre1pair of you. now nk you to ben habib, just there, former bre1pair of you. now you ou to ben habib, just there, former bre1pair of you. now you are 0 the pair of you. now you are with darren on gb news on with darren grimes on gb news on your and digital radio your tv and digital radio filling in for nana akua still to i'm asking has the home to come, i'm asking has the home office taken over by a woke office been taken over by a woke blob after staff have been accused defying accused of defying suella bravermans to sever all bravermans orders to sever all ties to the lgbt charity stonewall? this and so much more to bring you in just a moment. but first, it's your weather update . update. >> looks like things are heating up. boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest news weather forecast over the next 24 hours or so, there will be showers or some longer spells of rain, but there'll be some bright spells, particularly on monday, but with a northwesterly breeze , it is a northwesterly breeze, it is staying the side for the staying on the cool side for the time of year. but there will be some brighter breaks every so often and we do have some of them through this evening time across any across central areas. any heavy showers east will fade showers in the east will fade away, it is cloudy in the away, but it is cloudy in the west with patchy rain slowly away, but it is cloudy in the west witits atchy rain slowly away, but it is cloudy in the west witits wayy rain slowly away, but it is cloudy in the west witits way eastwards. .y away, but it is cloudy in the west witits way eastwards. later pushing its way eastwards. later on this evening and into the early hours, we could see a few heavier of rain on that heavier bursts of rain on that before up with clearer before it breaks up with clearer spells. behind spells. then following on behind towns and cities generally holding up in double figures, single figures in the countryside. it means a fairly fresh start monday morning . fresh start to monday morning. there will be a few showers across the north and the west from the word go, but more in the way of sunny spells to start monday compared sunday. monday compared to sunday. but as through the day, the as we go through the day, the cloud bubble up. there will cloud will bubble up. there will be of showers, but

be a scattering of showers, but some stay and some places will stay dry and the showers much lighter compared as well. and compared to sunday as well. and temperatures feeling temperatures just feeling a little warmer, highs of little warmer, too. highs of around about 21 or 22 celsius towards the southeast as we move into tuesday, we'll continue to see some showers across the north and the west, perhaps turning windier with more frequent showers across the far north—west of scotland. but generally elsewhere, sunny spells scattered showers and spells and scattered showers and temperatures again into the low 20s on wednesday and thursday . a 20s on wednesday and thursday. a mixed picture, further showers at times to looks like things are heating up. >> boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> you're watching and listening to darren

hello and welcome to gb news on your telly and on your digital radio. i'm darren grimes, filling in for nana akua. and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of topics, hitting the of the big topics, hitting the headunes of the big topics, hitting the headlines show's headlines right now. this show's all about opinion. mine, theirs and yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times disagreeing . joining me today, disagreeing. joining me today, it's the broadcaster and author christine hamilton and the broadcast author and journalist danny kelly. before we get started, let's get the latest news headlines with tatiana

sanchez. >> darren, thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. nadine dorries has accused rishi sunak of whipping up a public frenzy against her and says he doesn't have the x factor of a winning prime minister in a blistering resignation letter, the former minister accused mr sunak of demeaning his office by criticising her. she says his government has abandoned conservatism and the 2019 election manifesto, which was published before boris johnson, won an 80 seat majority. a by—election will now take place in the usually safe tory seat of mid bedfordshire, later was shadow secretary for women and equality anneliese dodds told gb news that nadine dorries makes some valid points, although i disagree with nadine dorries on many things when she says that we currently have a zombie parliament and when she asks what rishi sunak stands for and

what rishi sunak stands for and what he has achieved, i think many people will be saying they don't understand either. >> and i think this is incredibly damaging when, as we know, our country is in the middle of a cost of living crisis. we have a crisis in our nhs, prices have crime on our streets , and yet we seem to have streets, and yet we seem to have a zombie government that just can't grip . can't get a grip. >> but veterans ministerjohnny >> but veterans minister johnny mercer says he doesn't agree with the issues raised by ms dorries >> she's written a very personal letter to the prime minister and, you know, as again is her right, i think that , you know, right, i think that, you know, you take some aspects in there that i'm familiar with defence spending. she talks about defence spending being cut. i mean, it's just fundamentally not the case. and you know, when i started in parliament, £38 billion a year is just under £50 billion a year is just under £50 billion a year is just under £50 billion a now this billion a year. now now this prime when he was prime minister, when he was chancellor, actually signed off the biggest for the biggest settlement for defence of the defence since the end of the cold war firefight . cold war firefight. >> others say the government has shown callous disregard for the safety those on board the safety of those on board the bibby stockholm barge. the fire brigades has sent a pre

brigades union has sent a pre action protocol letter to the home outlining its home secretary outlining its concerns safety aboard the concerns over safety aboard the vessel, which is currently docked at dorset's portland port. the union previously branded the barge a potential death trap. it's now demanding a response to its letter . by response to its letter. by thursday , russian investigators thursday, russian investigators say genetics tests confirm yevgeny prigozhin died in a plane crash on wednesday. the wagner boss was on the passenger list of a private jet that crashed north of moscow months after a failed rebellion against russia's military. mikhail dyakonov was prime minister of russia from 2000 until 2004. he told gb news that prigozhin had put unforgivable pressure on putin over his management of the war in ukraine. >> prigozhin always was a criminal and continued to be a criminal and continued to be a criminal till the end and he is, i would say, pressure on putin was not forgivable by putin. it was not forgivable by putin. it was clear for me since the first day of this mutiny that

prigozhin will not live long. i didn't expect , of course, that didn't expect, of course, that he would be killed in such a demonstrative way as putin did, but definitely that was inevitable . and a breach in the inevitable. and a breach in the metropolitan police's it system could cause incalculable damage in the wrong hands. >> according to the police federation . scotland yard says federation. scotland yard says it's aware of the unauthorised access to the it system of one of its suppliers . they're now of its suppliers. they're now working with the company to ascertain whether data may have been breached. the company had access to names, ranks of photos, vetting levels and pay numbers, but not personal details such as addresses as whole life orders without parole would become the norm for dangerous offenders under plans announced by the prime minister, rishi sunak says people rightly expect that in the most serious cases there should be a guarantee that life will mean life. labour said failed government policies had led to overcrowded prisons, accusing

the tories of being soft on crime . the west of london is crime. the west of london is buzzing with fun and celebrations today with the return of the notting hill carnival . caribbean culture is carnival. caribbean culture is at the heart of the annual event with food, music , art and other with food, music, art and other attractions bringing visitors to the famously bohemian part of london, the city's mayor, sadiq khan, described the festival as part of the very fabric of our city. the carnival takes place today and tomorrow , and finally, today and tomorrow, and finally, monster hunters have heard four distinctive noises during the biggest search for the loch ness monster in half a century. these pictures are coming to us live from the loch ness, where it's a slightly very slightly brighter day than yesterday . the research day than yesterday. the research team from edinburgh said the noises were heard using an underwater microphone. international interest in the search is high with hunters from australia, canada and america also taking part this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car

, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . darren news now it's back to. darren >> you with me? darren grimes on gb news on your telly and on digital radio. now i want to ask you, do you remember dad's army , a british classic that for many encapsulates our keep calm and carry on attitude during world war ii, the iconic theme tune had us belting about england standing firm in the face of invasion over the engush face of invasion over the english channel. fast forward to today, and you'd imagine a modern day version going something like who do you think you are kidding, mr sun ark. if you are kidding, mr sun ark. if you think old england's done because we're not done. mr sunak , we know they're doing nothing and that britain's borders are leakier than a sieve and less secure than a paper fort in a rainstorm . so excuse my attempt

rainstorm. so excuse my attempt to sing there. i can see christine hamilton about to reprimand me. but come on. this is the state of affairs in britain now, isn't it? the woman the tories tapped to oversee asylum when illegal migration was hit in the roof and deportations were nosediving, has now conveniently landed a gig at an anti borders ngo. an ngo that slams our government's policies as inhumane, divisive lviv. and can you guess the other word ? and you guessed it, other word? and you guessed it, racist ? what should we be racist? what should we be shocked that these policies went belly up ? i think not. it makes belly up? i think not. it makes you wonder how suella braverman even got out of bed in the morning given the woke resistance she's up against in the home office. can you imagine these top tier bureaucrats admitting to their leftie mates that they're trying to stop illegal crossings? it'll be social suicide over their candlelit suppers . meanwhile, candlelit suppers. meanwhile, let's talk numbers . home office let's talk numbers. home office spending on asylum soared to

£3.97 billion. that's your money in 2022 to 2023, up from 2 billion the previous year. all the while, the backlog of pending asylum cases swells to over 175,000. rishi sunak says more needs to be done. i mean , more needs to be done. i mean, you don't say, rishi, look , i'll you don't say, rishi, look, i'll volunteer. give me the applications. all 175,000 of them and i'll be done by lunchtime because i'll tell you what i'll do. anyone who's entered illegally will be getting a result sounding. no, if you've got no regard for our laws , you have no place in our laws, you have no place in our society . the public's restless. society. the public's restless. a public first poll reveals that half of the 2019 conservative of leave voters think that the government's dropping the ball on immigration. three quarters believe that the much vaunted rwanda plan has about as much chance of getting off the ground as a sumo wrestler in a pole vauu

as a sumo wrestler in a pole vault competition. an europol courts guardians of so—called human rights seem more interested in illegal entrants than in the british public safety or democracy. and let's be real. our very sovereignty are put at risk. so let's not mince words. sunak and starmer are two sides of the same behind all talk and zero gumption. in britain cannot be a one stop shop for everyone eyeing up a better life . we aren't the better life. we aren't the world's catch all, and if our leaders don't man up, they're essentially rolling out the red carpet for anti—brexit anti borders elites to hijack our democracy. mark my words, it will be a political calamity like no other with the ballot box poisoned for a generation . box poisoned for a generation. now, before we get into the debate, here's what's coming up today for the great british

debate. this hour, i'm asking have the woke blob taken over the home office whether it's their inability to control the border crisis and ex—home office chief joining amnesty or civil servants defying suella braverman over gender politics? have the woke blob taken over at 450? it's worldview will cross to los angeles with paul duddndge to los angeles with paul duddridge to get the latest on donald trump this week and that brilliant mug shot. plus, we'll be live in moscow with alexei sevilla as russian investigators confirm the wagner boss, prigozhin did die in last week's plane crash. and at five, it's this week's outside guide. he'll be a familiar face to many gb news viewers. he attracted worldwide attention after he came out as trans racial, a transracial korean man. stay tuned. as all will be revealed very, very soon. that's coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing by emailing gbviews@gbnews.com. i've got it open right here. or tweet me at

. gb news. right, let's get stuck in, shall we? welcome again to my panel. the broadcaster and author christine hamilton and the broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. danny and christine. i mean, danny. i'll start with you. i did upset you on the way in because i mentioned everton straight away. so i hope i haven't got off on the wrong foot. oh, no. >> am i a football fan? >> am i a football fan? >> don't. >> don't. >> it was the fifth word out of darren's mouth. >> good. good afternoon, old >> oh, good. good afternoon, old friend. >> everton. >> everton. >> and he >> everton. >> and >> everton. >>and >> and then he stared at me. but it's to see danny. it's great to see you, danny. >> yes, too. what did you >> yes, you too. what did you make of. i don't even understand. >> what? that's all about. >> what? that's all about. >> except you obviously support different >> except you obviously support differerdo. >> we do. >> we do. >> it's football bands. it's. >> it's football bands. it's. >> it's football bands. it's. >> it's peculiar. darren when people leave organisations like i think emma hardened or whatever name that's correct. >> whenever whenever people leave and they're leave organisations and they're there due impartiality or in there for due impartiality or in there for due impartiality or in the home offices case to actually do what the government want to implement, to not want them to implement, to not resist policies. resist certain policies. >> i spent 18 years at the bbc

and i can tell you that impartiality is not that prevalent if you have liberal views invariably it will seep out. yes, and we've had some high profile bbc people. jon sopel emily maitlis they've left the organisation and guess what? they're lefty liberals like we always knew they were and so we have to bring it back to the story at point today is how much is this liberal attitude actually , how much is it actually, how much is it distorting government ambition and she's joined amnesty international . and the question international. and the question is, is the blob, i suppose, partial or impartial? and i would have to say that i think that they are not impartial. and i wonder how much resistance and all of those people who are saying, oh, you right wingers, you're conspiracy theorists of course, she's not pushing back on government policy. well, now we know potentially the evidence circumstantial as it is, would suggest that she was so, christine, i mean, that whole narrative of the deep state, i used to think that maybe used to think that that maybe was bonkers, but maybe

was a bit bonkers, but maybe it's true. >> maybe get anything >> maybe we can't get anything done. maybe. >> may i? >> may i? >> of all, congrats to you >> first of all, congrats to you on your song. >> it was brilliant. >> i thought it was brilliant. i'd never crossed mind. i'd never crossed my mind. >> think you're >> who do you think you're kidding, sunak? kidding, mr sunak? >> can do the whole song. >> and we can do the whole song. >> and we can do the whole song. >> oh, we could. >> oh, we could. >> we could do it. so anyway, i thought that brilliant. thought that was brilliant. secondly, you on secondly, i congratulate you on using the phrase, if our leaders don't not allowed don't man up, you're not allowed to that. but you just did. to say that. but you just did. brilliant. cancelled again. but hooray no. absolute hooray for you. no. absolute right. i was growing right. when i was growing up, i could fully understand the could never fully understand the civil because i thought, civil service because i thought, how anybody not have views? how can anybody not have views? because i grew up in a very political family and we all had views from a young age. and views even from a young age. and i was explained to me i was it was explained to me that they don't they have views, but they are completely impartial. they keep it to themselves and they wouldn't dream it influence dream of letting it influence the act. but i mean, the way they act. but i mean, now me, that all gone now to me, that has all gone through window. and of through the window. and of course, not only what's her name, haddad, her dad, name, emma haddad, or her dad, sue gray, we now know where sue gray is. a bit more on the civil service a bit later on, but on the of migration in

the question of migration in general, get so many people general, i get so many people emailing in saying, look, i'm wanting to tear my hair out at this point, so i keep voting for political. >> danny does to oh, it's a refreshing change. >> now i've lost a bit of weight. it's a refreshing to change be targeted from a bald head rather than a big stomach. >> they're saying, i >> but they're saying, look, i keep voting political keep voting for political parties. promising that parties. i keep promising that numbers will be reduced, but it never happens. christine, what can do ? can people do? >> well, you again, you hit the nail on head. you said you nail on the head. you said you and would solve the and you said you would solve the asylum problem before lunchtime. anyone illegally, anyone who arrives illegally, the if you are the answer is no. if you are legitimate, then why not come through legitimate means? and through a legitimate means? and if you come in by the back door on boat, definition, on a boat, by definition, almost. not genuine, are almost. you're not genuine, are you? if you were you? because if you were genuine, come in genuine, you would come in through normal. what can we through the normal. what can we do? absolutely do? people are absolutely desperate. we've is desperate. i mean, we've got is it every time i mention this figure, somebody says, it's figure, somebody says, oh, it's gone it's now gone up. i think it's now 175,000 backlog . it may 175,000 is the backlog. it may even be 180 by now. i mean, how long without you is that going to take? it's ridiculous. and

the other thing that annoys me and annoys people is that even when people are told, no, your asylum is not granted , and asylum is not granted, and apparently they're doing about four, person processes four, each person processes about four a week. now, how slow can you work for it to take you a week to do for asylum applications when they're told they can't stay? nothing happens to make sure that they leave. they just disappear. >> labour's plan, danny, is to open more safe legal open up more safe and legal routes so that people can apply from outside of britain without the need they say, of crossing the need they say, of crossing the english channel. i mean, do you reckon that will work? is that a plan? >> well , that could accelerate >> well, that could accelerate people while making a less dangerous crossing, i suppose. and they could have their asylum scrutinised. i'm assuming, in northern france. i think that's potentially what they would do. i don't think it's going to stop the numbers, though, because it's an incredibly high rate of success. and we heard last week about coached in about how they're coached in what to say. i'm not i'm not saying every body there are

genuine cases . of course there genuine cases. of course there are. but people who come are. but for the people who come across and you have to you have to just look at the people, if you like the demographics and you like the demographics and you to say that they're all you have to say that they're all men 20s. men in their 20s. >> and where are the women? >> and where are the women? >> where few women? >> where are very few women? very, few children. there >> where are very few women? verevery few children. there >> where are very few women? verevery now children. there >> where are very few women? verevery now and dren. there >> where are very few women? verevery now and again.here >> where are very few women? verevery now and again. and you are every now and again. and you have thatif are every now and again. and you have that if the daily have to say that if the daily mail did a great expose when they went undercover and they secretly some secretly filmed some some immigration them immigration lawyers telling them what saying what to say, i've been saying for are so naive for years, you are so naive on the on that side of the argument. you are so naive if you think everybody's a genuine mark steyn mean, we had an mark steyn i mean, we had an exclusive on gb news with the labour councillor doing it on tiktok . tiktok. >> media is p— tiktok. >> media is a real >> social media is a real problem. actually and enticing people and then briefing them on what to say and what say. what to say and what to say. >> and we've just had in the last 48, 24 hours, whatever it is, tiktok video that's is, this tiktok video that's gone seemingly be, gone out using seemingly be, shall we say, a little worse for the wear, worse for wear girls, british girls on the streets larking around as as bait to try and say to people, look, if you

come here, you've got all these lovely english girls waiting for you ends up in this you and the guy ends up in this seemingly a perfectly good hotel for lying back, obviously watching the television on extolling virtues of take extolling the virtues of take the risk. it's a very small risk. you know, we hear that obviously there are tragedies. and the other day was it seven people lost lives. but people lost their lives. but compared to the numbers who come over is a very small over that is a very, very small risk that they're taking. so basically , it's a no lose basically, it's a no lose situation . situation. >> we'll be back with more. but danny and christine, for now, thank you very much for your thoughts there . folks are with thoughts there. folks are with gb news and i'm darren grimes on your telly. and on digital radio. i'm filling in for the fabulous nana akua. now. still to come, this week's view to come, this week's world view will into los angeles will be cross into los angeles and moscow to get the latest on what's been a busy week. i think it's safe to say in global politics, that's after the weather , that warm feeling weather, that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest news. weather forecast over the next 24 hours or so, there will be showers or some longer spells of rain, but there'll be some bright spells, particularly on monday. but with a westerly breeze, it is a north westerly breeze, it is staying on the cool side for the time of year . staying on the cool side for the time of year. but there will be some brighter breaks every so often. and we do some of often. and we do have some of them through this evening time across central areas. heavy across central areas. any heavy showers will fade showers in the east will fade away, it is cloudy in the away, but it is cloudy in the west with patchy rain slowly pushing its way eastwards. later on and into the on this evening and into the early hours, could a few early hours, we could see a few heavier bursts of rain that heavier bursts of rain on that before with clearer before it breaks up with clearer spells. then following on behind and and cities generally and towns and cities generally holding in double figures. holding up in double figures. single figures in the countryside. it means fairly countryside. it means a fairly fresh start to morning. fresh start to monday morning. there a few showers there will be a few showers across north the west across the north and the west from the word go, but more in the way of sunny spells to start monday compared sunday. monday compared to sunday. but as the day, the as we go through the day, the cloud will bubble up. there will be a scattering of showers, but

some dry and some places will stay dry and the much lighter the showers much lighter compared to sunday well. and compared to sunday as well. and temperatures just feeling a little warmer, too . highs little warmer, too. highs of around about 21 or 22 celsius towards the southeast as we move into tuesday day, we'll continue to see some showers across the north and the west, perhaps turning windier with more frequent showers across the far north—west of scotland. but generally elsewhere, sunny spells and scattered showers and temperatures into the low temperatures again into the low 20s wednesday and thursday. 20s on wednesday and thursday. a mixed picture , further showers mixed picture, further showers at times to that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> you're with darren grimes on gb news on your telly and digital radio. up next, it's the great british debate. i'm asking has the home office been taken over by a woke blob ? i've got over by a woke blob? i've got a poll right now on or twitter asking you that very question. has the home office been taken

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taken over by a woke blob? the migrant crisis out of control and border force official join and border force official join an amnesty, an open border ngo and civil servants openly defy home secretary suella braverman, who's in charge of the home office, is in dire need of a shake—up. and that's without the gender politics, which is infected. the department staff have recently introduced passes for non—binary staff, allowing them to present in the gender which matches their identity on a given day. so one day you're karen. the next year. darren. that's no implication of what i'll be doing after the break. i promise. that comes after reports that staff defied suella braverman refuse to cut links with walk inclusive city lobby group stonewall , with walk inclusive city lobby group stonewall, a tory mp, miriam cates , has said the miriam cates, has said the obsession of some civil servants with pushing gender ideology in the workplace is very concerning . so for the great british debate, i'm asking has the home office been taken over by a woke

blob? i'm joined again by former editor labourlist peter edwards and former brexit party mep ben habib, former labour mp stephen pound , and former labour pound, and former labour minister for europe, dennis mcshane. hello to all of you. thank you very much. i'll start with ben habib in the studio . thank you very much. i'll start with ben habib in the studio. i mean, ben, you must very much be of the view that actually yes , of the view that actually yes, the home office isn't fit to function and it has totally been captured. >> it has. it has been captured. but it's not some sort of voluntary resignation to woke ideology that's taken place in the home office or indeed the other institutions of government and the other institutions of the united kingdom more broadly, what we have. darren is a legal and regulatory framework that appues and regulatory framework that applies across the board to pubuc applies across the board to public institutions, private enterprises and all regulated entities requiring them to adopt diversity, equality and inclusion. this is actually a

regulatory requirement . it inclusion. this is actually a regulatory requirement. it comes in the form of the environmental social governance policy pieces that are embedded. as i mentioned, in the legal and regulatory framework. so whilst we might roll our eyes at what the home office is up to, in fact they are just reacting like so many other institutions in this country , to the regulatory this country, to the regulatory requirements to which they are subject and as absurd as it is , subject and as absurd as it is, that's their basic be adhering to the regulations . what we've to the regulations. what we've got to do, what miriam cates and people have to recognise is that they need to change the law, change the regulations and roll back this ridiculous ideology and recognise in this instance, in this example, that there are only two sexes. >> okay . well, stephen pound, if >> okay. well, stephen pound, if you were home secretary back in the day, i mean, would you have been able to get anything done? do you worry about that? >> i worry about it morning, noon and night. i think there are some decent people in the home office. but the real problem is, you know, darren or

karen or darren, it's a lot easier to find a scapegoat than it is to find a solution. and the with home office the trouble with the home office at it's lot easier at the moment, it's a lot easier to a diversity workshop to have a diversity workshop than make a decision. the than to make a decision. the home office is too big, too unwieldy and undirected. it needs split into least needs to be split into at least three component parts and i'll be interested to see what denis macshane about this. macshane has to say about this. but certain areas in national but in certain areas in national security, fairly security, they do a fairly decent job. the case of decent job. in the case of border control, absolutely, absolutely. border control, absolutely, althey'd ly. border control, absolutely, althey'd spend a little less if they'd spend a little less time looking for white privilege, a little more time looking for scrotes that they can back across the channel can bang back across the channel i'd be a lot happier. well, dennis must be dennis mcshane, you must be delighted the office delighted with the home office because we've got open borders. >> you we've basically not >> you know, we've basically not taken back control as as taken back control of as far as brexit be brexit is concerned. you must be delighted. >> brexit was always going to deliver this disaster. >> that was one of the things that came with it. read all my books. stephen's heard me boring about that years ago, before gb news was invented. >> no, we've had the three worst home secretaries in a hundred

years. >> theresa may priti patel, suella braverman . suella braverman. >> and they think that they're woke busters. >> they're going to bust up any liberal, decent , tolerant liberal, decent, tolerant response you were mentioning. darren apparently some people at the home office support stonewall. >> i support stonewall . >> i support stonewall. >> i support stonewall. >> it's been one of the bravest outfits supporting gay people against persecution over the years, and we should honour it. and most decent people, including the royal family, do. >> but what we've got are three minutes, especially the current one, utterly unfit for purpose. i agree with stephen. other countries seem to not to have to love every complicated area in migration. border controls are out of control because neither priti patel above all suella braverman will not take the decisions necessary to try and control , slow down, manage the control, slow down, manage the incomers . incomers. >> so peter edwards, to bring you in, former editor of labourlist. i just want to say, you know, i actually do view it as highly controversial at the

home office is a lie in itself with stonewall, because stonewall have got really radical, extreme views on the eradication of biological sex. >> well, as dennis said, stonewall have been at the forefront of campaigning for equality over 20 or 30 years. and one can say that without subscribing to every view they hold today, i worry a little bit that when you use phrases like woke and captured , you woke blob and captured, you trivialise problems around trivialise the problems around the home office. i think the home office. and i think what all agree on is there what we'd all agree on is there are massive problems around the home steve pound laid home office. steve pound laid out really well the different responsibilities it has in the case it up, which case of breaking it up, which remember 20 years ago, john reid, home secretary, reid, then home secretary, saying the home office is not fit for purpose . there are fit for purpose. there are officials that say same officials that say the same today. criticism of today. i think my criticism of home is probably for home office is probably for completely different to yours, which around on crime which is things around on crime and a struggling immigration thing, things that come up on the doorstep far more frequently than gender ideology. >> yeah, but ben habib, even on crime, right, people are saying, well, call for

well, you know, i call for a copper, but if i call them a lesbian nana, maybe they'll come round otherwise. round, but they don't otherwise. well well, we had that video the other day going viral on social media where a police policewoman was arresting an autistic 16 year old for calling her lesbian. >> and i think was the was the accusation ian made. now look, i mean, if you can't identify what sex you are, what chance of enforcing the law and this is the point about diversity , the point about diversity, equality and inclusion. it discombobulates the mind. it undermines the english language and if you undermine the english language , you actually can't language, you actually can't think straight . and if you can't think straight. and if you can't think straight. and if you can't think straight, you're not going to govern straight. you're not going implement government going to implement government policyto make government policy going to make government policy straight. is straight. the whole thing is just by an just been captured by an ideology that is eating itself up and hollowing itself out from within. and stephen, you know, counting your pound and pence, there's an awful lot of money being sent to france, for example , and they're getting example, and they're getting nothing in return. >> i mean, is the home office

also just asleep at the wheel ? also just asleep at the wheel? >> well, you know, it's danegeld , isn't it? you pay the danes going back to king arthur, you know, you just carry on paying it. it's ludicrous. look the reality of the situation is the first duty of government is first duty of any government is to citizens. that's to protect its citizens. that's the duty. have an the first duty. if you have an open border with people flooding in, who they in, you've got no idea who they are, idea where they go. and are, no idea where they go. and under system, all under the present system, all they to do is to keep their they have to do is to keep their heads down for 2 or 3 years. they apply under the they can then apply under the regularisation overstayers regularisation of overstayers regulations suddenly regularisation of overstayers reglthe ons suddenly regularisation of overstayers reglthe passport. suddenly regularisation of overstayers reglthe passport. theandenly regularisation of overstayers reglthe passport. then we anly regularisation of overstayers reglthe passport. then we are get the passport. then we are not protecting our borders. we're not protecting our citizens. it's an utter citizens. and it's an utter total dereliction of duty. and i think realise think that the sooner we realise that, have to actually that, we simply have to actually put the resources in there and direct what needs direct and target what needs doing know, diversity doing. you know, diversity workshops are all very but workshops are all very good, but it's bonus . workshops are all very good, but it's bonus. i on top the it's a bonus. i think on top the core function is the national safety and security and we've got to get back to that. >> absolutely. going to >> absolutely. we're going to have it there. the have to leave it there. but the former editor labourlist, former editor of labourlist, peter brexit peter edwards, former brexit party ben habib, former party mep, ben habib, former labour mp stephen pound, and the

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conservatism and the 2019 election manifesto, which was published before boris johnson, won an 80 seat majority. a by—election will now take place in the usually safe tory seat of mid—bedfordshire, labour's shadow secretary for women inequalities, anneliese dodds told gb news that nadine dorries makes some valid points. fire fighters say the government has shown callous disregard for the safety of those on board the bibby stockholm barge. the fire brigades union has sent a pre—action protocol letter to home secretary suella braverman outlining its concerns over safety aboard the vessel, which is currently docked at dorset's portland port. the union previously branded the barge a potential death trap. it's now demanding a response to its legal letter. by thursday , legal letter. by thursday, russian investigator say genetic tests confirm yevgeny prigogine died in a plane crash on wednesday. the wagner boss was on a passenger list of a private jet that crashed north of moscow months after a failed rebellion

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the people's. channel welcome back with darren grimes on gb news in for nana akua. >> it's time for the great british debate. i'm asking has the home office been taken over by a woke blob? the migrant crisis is out of control and border force official joining amnesty si and civil servants openly defy in home secretary suella braverman home office is in dire need of a shake—up and that's without actually the gender politics which has infected the department. let's see what the panel makes of this. i'm joined by author and broadcaster christine hamilton and broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. danny and christine. now i'm you are going to have to refer to me as karen now, by the way, because i am choosing to self—identify like the home office do as karen for the home office do as karen for the next hour. now, i'll be you're not the only one who can play you're not the only one who can play this game. >> i shall be christopher. >> i shall be christopher. >> christopher and i'll be a woke blob. >> a woke up . why not? >> a woke up. why not? >> a woke up. why not? >> well, as the woke blob, why are you infiltrating the home office?

>> it's insidious , isn't it? and >> it's insidious, isn't it? and it is insidious. insida is. forgive me. yes, it is insidious . and it's creeping everywhere . . and it's creeping everywhere. and it's. it's everywhere . and and it's. it's everywhere. and you see the arguments against it. darren. look, i'm not a woman, so i don't have . well, woman, so i don't have. well, not today, i'm not. anyway. hang on a minute. >> how do we know today? >> how do we know today? >> i'm not a woman, so i don't really have as big a horse in the race as, for example, yourself. christine about, you know, men using women's toilets and things like that. now, this home story is just home office story is just bizarre. you can identify as bizarre. so you can identify as a bloke one you can a bloke one day, you can identify a woman, the next identify as a woman, the next day can in the day you can arrive in the morning as a bloke and you can leave in the afternoon having swapped security swapped your security pass in case hasn't read case anyone hasn't read all this. >> yeah, you can then leave in the in the evening as a bloke. >> and this all comes christine and all, know, and this is all, you know, a downward trajectory. ideas downward trajectory. the ideas come outfits like come from activist outfits like stonewall. i don't stonewall. i'm afraid i don't agree last guests that agree with our last guests that stonewall is still a bedrock of champion all stonewall is still a bedrock of cha restyn all stonewall is still a bedrock of cha rest of all stonewall is still a bedrock of cha rest of it. all stonewall is still a bedrock of cha rest of it. because all the rest of it. because actually, i would argue, christine, that they're damaging

women's . women's rights. >> course they are. and this >> of course they are. and this rush to protect a minor, minor, minor, minor rights, nought point, nought, nought, 0% of the population, trans rights , population, trans rights, etcetera are indeed the people who are being damaged are, are , who are being damaged are, are, are are women. i mean look what happened to j.k. rowling for example, just because she dared to that a trans woman is not to say that a trans woman is not a woman. they are a trans woman. i object very strongly to having to, in theory , call myself a cis to, in theory, call myself a cis woman. i'm not a cis woman. i'm a woman. and why should i have to put a word against woman to describe myself when i'm when i'm not? i mean, it is absolutely absurd. do it is beyond belief that the civil service was supposed to be talked about, is supposed to be impartial, not push their own agenda and now say people can have two passes. so when you wake up in the morning, you get to the home office or wherever you can think right, am i going to be darren karen ? i've got you can think right, am i going to ttwoarren karen ? i've got you can think right, am i going to ttwo passes. karen ? i've got you can think right, am i going to ttwo passes. what ? i've got you can think right, am i going to ttwo passes. what about got the two passes. what about security issues? oh, yeah . and security issues? oh, yeah. and supposing you want to turn up

one you want to be one day and you want to be a cat? yeah then what happens about that? it's cat? yeah then what happens abolt's.1at? it's >> it's. >> it's. >> but they would argue . they >> but they would argue. they would argue. although i disagree with would they would with them they would they would argue what's problem? argue that what's the problem? so to turn up as a so if i want to turn up as a woman one then i can have woman one day, then i can have this side of the pass and i'll show it and i'll call myself danielle and the other day, if i genuinely identify by as danny, then flip the pass then i'll just flip the pass the other day i'll other way. round. one day i'll use your toilet. i can't even believe i'm keeping a straight face i'm saying, the face when i'm saying, what's the problem? i'll use problem? the other day? i'll use the being. the just being. >> being devil's >> you are being devil's devil's. is the problem? devil's. what is the problem? you know, lady. exactly what the young lady. you can come again. you know, lady. exactly what the yomknow y. you can come again. you know, lady. exactly what the yomknow exactly an come again. you know, lady. exactly what the yomknow exactly what me again. you know, lady. exactly what the yomknow exactly what whatjain. you know, lady. exactly what the yomknow exactly what what the you know exactly what what the problem is. the problem is , problem is. the problem is, frankly, that it's utterly ludicrous . if you want to change ludicrous. if you want to change your your gender, which i don't think you can, but if you want to do it, fine transition to a man or a woman. but once you've done it, there . you can't done it, stay there. you can't flip on a daily basis. flip flop on a daily basis. >> but what we're having a laugh at this. but what's serious is that comes from the that this comes from the management comes the

management and it comes from the management and it comes from the management so it comes management down. so it comes from top. and you from the very top. and once you actually article, there actually read the article, there have intranet, so have been various intranet, so internal internet home office or whichever department from the internal website and it's pushing an agenda and they should be politically neutral because unfortunately the stonewall aren't politically neutral. they're very partial . neutral. they're very partial. >> god, you can say that again, claim to be any longer, do they? >> no, not at all. but i mean, christine, on the point of suella braverman in particular, we vote for parties. the conservative party received 14 million votes in 2019. we've got a home secretary who was put forward in a cabinet by the prime minister for his majesty, the king, who's in power, though, is it suella braverman ? though, is it suella braverman? >> well, in theory it's suella braverman . in theory it's rishi braverman. in theory it's rishi sunak. but no, the blob, it's an abusive name for the civil servants. but the clue of what they should be doing is in the name civil servants. they are supposed to be serving the government day, are government of the day, who are serving the who voted to serving the people who voted to put there. that is their

put them there. that is their job. is not to push job. theirjob is not to push their own woke agenda. it's just extraordinary how many people have got away with it. and i mentioned earlier what we mentioned earlier what we mentioned earlier what we mentioned earlier was the name emma haddad . i think this is emma haddad. i think this is who's moving to off getting quite at name. quite good at that name. >> now, this show, by the way, folks, absolutely nothing >> now, this show, by the way, folks, you olutely nothing >> now, this show, by the way, folks, you andely nothing >> now, this show, by the way, folks, you and your)thing >> now, this show, by the way, folks, you and your views much without you and your views much more important than ours. dare i say. let's welcome one of our great british voices. this is your to be the your opportunity to be on the show what you really show and tell us what you really think about the topics we're discussing hour . we're discussing this hour. we're heading bristol to speak with heading to bristol to speak with regular voice lee harris. hiya, lee. thanks for joining. regular voice lee harris. hiya, lee. thanks forjoining. what lee. thanks for joining. what have you made of that conversation then ? conversation then? >> i agreed with most of what your panel would just say. >> i mean, without that question, yes, it's an absolute joke . joke. >> you know, what's so frustrating is literally everyone can see it . i mean, not everyone can see it. i mean, not that long ago , elon musk that long ago, elon musk destroyed, described wokeness as a mind virus. >> and he's right. and the home office has tested 100% positive. and, you know, the evidence is

overwhelming . the civil service overwhelming. the civil service has been taken over by woke left wing ramona activists who are hell bent on bringing down the government and they're ideologically opposed to government policy. they're blatantly sabotaging any attempt to stop the boats and clear this horrific backlog, which as you said earlier, has recently hit 175,000. and, you know what's what's really frustrating is ministers have raised this on multiple occasions over the years, and very little has been done to fix it. you know, you've had a priti patel, she had to use a rare ministerial direction. you might remember just to force them to work on the rwanda plan. and they unbelievably then tried to block suella braverman's appointment. and she's been up against resistance and leaks every step of the way. you know, these woke left wing wet wipes were even offered respite and a route out when dominic raab was appointed. you know, it'd be funny if it wasn't so serious, but as you

said earlier, you know, the home office's director general for asylum up until october 20th, 22 has left to join amnesty international, who described has left to join amnesty international , who described the international, who described the government's policies as inhumane, racist and devices. to the surprise of absolutely no one. uh, you know , source said one. uh, you know, source said that she was very difficult and a chief blocker of ministers policies and also oversaw the introduction of this lenient guidance which asylum caseworkers were told they were not to reject the testimony of migrants who were caught lying mean exactly . mean exactly. >> it's serious stuff. but i mean , lee, i think you're mean, lee, i think you're a brave man saying all of this in bristol, by the way, because last time i was there, i was basically hounded out. but i am a rarity in bristol. >> yeah , it is a bit of a woke >> yeah, it is a bit of a woke place to but but no, it's place to live, but but no, it's nice. it's a lovely city. oh, it's beautiful . it's beautiful. >> yeah. yeah, it's very beautiful. >> but lee harris, thank you very much for your time ever. very much for your time as ever. >> he is brilliant, isn't he? totally brilliant. thank you,

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. the welcome back. you're with darren grimes on gb news on tv and on digital radio, filling in for nana akua . it's time for world nana akua. it's time for world view now . and russian view now. and russian investigators say genetic tests confirmed firm that yevgeny prigozhin died in a plane crash on wednesday . the wagner boss on wednesday. the wagner boss was on the passenger list of a private jet that crashed north of moscow on wednesday, months after a failed rebellion against

russia's military. well, joining me now to talk all about russia is russian journalist alexei ver . alexei, thank you very much for your time . i mean, alexei, for your time. i mean, alexei, tell us, we've had this confirmed russian. how big is this for russia ? this for russia? >> hello, darren. oh it's a huge deal >> hello, darren. oh it's a huge deal. and not just for russia, for the whole world, i believe, because mr prigozhin, he was the head of the notorious wagner group that were achieving significant military successes on the battlefield in ukraine as well as pursuing some russia's interest in africa. he was a major figure, especially recently and two months ago he led this failed armed rebellion against the putin's regime, failed coup attempt, which he was supposed to go to belarus, to according to the the deal that was offered to him by the belarussian president, lukashenko, as some commentators have noticed. well, he didn't actually stick to the deal. he

was just recently in saint petersburg meeting with african leaders . he's recording. he was leaders. he's recording. he was recording videos of from africa, saying that while wagner is up and still kicking. so well on wednesday, he's playing. his private jet was down to we still don't know exactly the cost, whether it was a bomb on board of the plane or some are saying it might have been a missile. the investigation is still on, but today, finally, we got confirmation from russia's investigative committee that indeed all ten passengers, seven passengers and three crew members were are exactly as listed. and one of them was yevgeny prigozhin, another one was mitry utkin. his right hand. so this makes a private, private wagner militia behave added because now there is no more leadership. mr prigozhin himself the founder, the man behind the whole business deals and the military leader utkin. so now we don't really know what's going to happen with the wagner group. one thing for sure, they are

probably not a threat to the russian power anymore since, well, two months ago. we also what happened? >> they absolutely . so, alexei, >> they absolutely. so, alexei, just very, very briefly , if you just very, very briefly, if you would, does this put president putin in a stronger position or . not >> i think time will show as president putin said, he can forgive almost everything except one thing, betrayal. and he told mr prigozhin a traitor . well, mr prigozhin a traitor. well, after his death, he expressed condolences to his family. after his death, he expressed condolences to his family . but, condolences to his family. but, well, one thing putin cannot forgive his betrayal . well, mr forgive his betrayal. well, mr prigozhin himself, he had no illusions about his future . and illusions about his future. and he said it very possible, highly likely he could die. but he said even if he dies, he would go to hell. but even there, he would thrive. wow well, the kind of man he was, alexei v.f, thank you very much for your time and your update there. >> that's alexei, the russian journalist out in moscow, now travelling over to america now. and we're going to speak to host of politics people podcast,

of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge . paul, thank you paul duddridge. paul, thank you very much for your time. now, paul very much for your time. now, paul, you must be happier than a pig paul, you must be happier than a pig in muck over this donald trump mugshot because it's done absolutely wonders for him, hasn't it ? hasn't it? >> oh, it's the new poster on every kid's bedroom in the united states. it's the greatest motif i've ever seen. >> they literally immediately. >> they literally immediately. >> this is the genius of donald trump and his campaign. >> they literally started slapping his face on mugs and selling them literally going, this is the mugshot. so he's already done millions in merchandise just since. was it thursday , wednesday, thursday, thursday, wednesday, thursday, when they actually took a president and processed him as a common criminal? it's quite extraordinary. but that's the times we're living in. >> but, paul, is it not a pretty that president trump , the first that president trump, the first president, as you say, for this to ever happen to, is this not a sign that he's just not fit for office? >> no, no , no. >> no, no, no. >> it's a sign that the office

is not fit for him the entire . is not fit for him the entire. >> you've been experiencing it there with the discussion about there with the discussion about the home office . if we'd have the home office. if we'd have just let all these institutions slide for the last few decades, which i think we have, and they've been infiltrated , if you they've been infiltrated, if you like, by the wokerati, by blobs on both sides of any western democracy is the same. you see the same thing in canada. the what's actually happened is trump is the first person coming along actually represent getting the people, the first person for a very long time to represent the the the people against the institutions as it's and so no , institutions as it's and so no, it's the it's the actual office itself that's being called into question. the nature of the office. what is the point of the presidency if it's not to represent the american people? it is now seen as just a global hub for the distribution of the dollar. that's really all it is. the people can be are a secondary afterthought . secondary afterthought. >> you know, paul, watching the scenes of people standing on the side of the road watching as the cars go past, as the president is driven away from having his

mugshot taken and all the rest of it, the movement itself seems to be flourishing. right that movement that working class, primarily movement of men and women who are behind donald trump and back their man all the way, that's not showing any sign of dissipating, is it? >> is it really isn't. look, i was going to talk about the fact that twice this week now in trump's interview with tucker and sarah palin, i think yesterday, civil war is being openly discussed now as a possibility. this is not just hyperbole on my part . the hyperbole on my part. the division is so strong . and there division is so strong. and there was an interesting survey that found that the majority of trump voters in 2020 want their states to secede from the union. and 41% of biden voters think it's time for the country to split . time for the country to split. and so this movement is going nowhere. the original revolution that actually created the united states as we know them only had 33% support. it never had more than 45% support, 33% for on the

side of the british. so we are in very, very ripe times for an enormous division because take trump out of the equation. maga is not going away. maga is not going anywhere. there will be another trump , perhaps donald another trump, perhaps donald trump junior or tucker will take over the movement , as you point over the movement, as you point out. and that's the important thing. too many people focus on donald trump. weirdly, i'm a dyedin donald trump. weirdly, i'm a dyed in the wool trump supporter, but trump isn't the point. the movement is the point. >> all right, paul duddridge there, the host of the politics people podcast. thank you very much time and trump much for your time and trump enthusiasm there. you're watching darren grimes on gb news. more to come in the next hour. houn you're with darren grimes on gb news on telly and on digital radio for the next hour, me and my panel will be taken on some

of the big topics hitting the headunes of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. coming up, this week's outside guest will be revealed in just a moment. who could be? and for the who could it be? and for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, will sadiq khan be on right side history on the right side of history over first, here's over ulez? but first, here's your news headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> darren, thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. nadine dorries has accused rishi sunak of whipping up a public frenzy against her and says he doesn't have the x factor of a winning prime minister in a blistering resignation letter, the former minister accused mr sunak of demeaning his office by criticising her. she says his government has abandoned conservatism and the 2019 election manifesto , which was election manifesto, which was published before boris johnson , published before boris johnson, won an 80 seat majority . a won an 80 seat majority. a by—election will now take place in the usually safe tory seat of mid bedfordshire. labour's shadow secretary for women and

equalities , liz anneliese dodds, equalities, liz anneliese dodds, told gb news that nadine dorries makes some valid points. >> us although i disagree with nadine dorries on many things when she says that we currently have a zombie parliament and when she asks what rishi sunak stands for and what he has achieved, i think many people will be saying they don't understand either. and i think this is incredibly damaging when, as we know, our country is in the middle of a cost of living crisis. we have a crisis in our nhs, prices of crime on our streets , and yet we seem to our streets, and yet we seem to have a zombie government that just can't get a grip . just can't get a grip. >> but veterans ministerjohnny >> but veterans minister johnny mercer says he doesn't agree with the issues raised by ms dorries . dorries. >> she's been a very personal letter to the prime minister and you know as again is her right, i think that , you know, you take i think that, you know, you take some aspects in there that i'm familiar with defence spending . familiar with defence spending. she talks about defence spending being cut. i mean, it's just fundamentally not the case. and

you know, when i started in parliament, £38 billion a year is just under £50 billion a yeah is just under £50 billion a year. this prime year. now now this prime minister, when he was chancellor, signed chancellor, actually signed off the settlement for the biggest settlement for defence the the defence since the end of the cold war. >> firefighters say the government has shown callous disregard for the safety of those on the bibby those on board the bibby stockholm barge. the fire stockholm home barge. the fire brigades has a brigades union has sent a pre—action protocol letter to the home secretary outlining its concerns over safety aboard the vessel , which concerns over safety aboard the vessel, which is concerns over safety aboard the vessel , which is currently vessel, which is currently docked dorset's, portland docked at dorset's, portland port. union previously port. the union previously branded the barge a potential death trap and it's now demanding a response its demanding a response to its legal thursday . legal letter. by thursday. russian investigators say genetics tests confirm yevgeny prigozhin died in a plane crash on wednesday. the wagner boss was on the passenger list of a private jet that crashed north of moscow months after a failed rebellion against russia's military . rebellion against russia's military. mikhail rebellion against russia's military . mikhail kasyanov was military. mikhail kasyanov was prime minister of russia from 2000 until 2004. he told gb news that prigozhin had put unfair pressure on putin over his

management of the war in ukraine. >> prigozhin always was a criminal and continued to be a criminal and continued to be a criminal till the end and his, i would say, pressure on putin was not forgivable by putin. it was clear for me, since the first day of this mutiny that prigozhin will not live long. i didn't expect, of course, that he would be killed in such a demonstrate way as putin did , demonstrate way as putin did, but definitely that was inevitable and a breach in the metropolitan police's it system could cause incalculable damage in the wrong hands. >> according to the police federation, scotland yard says it's aware of unauthorised access to the it system of one of its suppliers. they're now working with the company to ascertain whether data may have been breached. the company had access to names , ranks, photos, access to names, ranks, photos, vetting levels and pay numbers, but not personal details such as addresses as whole life orders

without parole would become the norm for dangerous offenders. under plans announced by the prime minister, rishi sunak says people rightly expect that in the most serious cases there should be a guarantee that life will mean life. labour said failed government policies had led to overcrowded prisons, accusing the tories of being soft on crime . the west of soft on crime. the west of london is buzzing with fun and celebrations today with the return of the notting hill carnival. caribbean culture is at the heart of the annual event with food, music, art and other attractions bringing visitors to the famously bohemian part of london. the city's mayor sadiq khan, described the festival as part of the very fabric of our city. the carnival takes place today and tomorrow . and finally today and tomorrow. and finally , monster hunters have heard four distinctive noises during the biggest search for the loch ness monster in half a century. these pictures are coming to us live from loch ness, where it's a slightly brighter day than yesterday. the research team

from edinburgh said the noises were heard using an underwater microphone . international microphone. international interest in the search is high, with hunters from australia, canada and america also taking part . this is gb news canada and america also taking part. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on digital uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to . darren back to. darren >> this is gb news. and i'm darren grimes , filling in for darren grimes, filling in for nana akua for the next hour. me and my panel will be taken on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show's all about opinion, mine, theirs and yours. we'll be debate and discuss and at times disagreeing . joining me today is disagreeing. joining me today is christine hamilton and danny kelly. still to come , each kelly. still to come, each sunday at 5:00, we're joined by a celebrity or a former mp or someone who's had an extremely interesting life and career. today, he'll be a familiar face to many gb news viewers. he

attracted worldwide attention soon after he came out as a trans racial korean man , a viral trans racial korean man, a viral internet sensation . more internet sensation. more recently, he's been warning of the dangers of trans ideology . the dangers of trans ideology. he previously revealed he spent almost £250,000 on cosmetic surgeries . stay tuned. as all surgeries. stay tuned. as all will be revealed very, very soon for the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking will sadiq khan be on the right side of history over ulez set to be expanded on tuesday. sunak insists he's on the right side of history . but with protests of history. but with protests continuing over the expansion and last minute attempts to politicise the police force . can politicise the police force. can sadiq really think he's on the right side of history ? as right side of history? as always, you can email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet us at . gb news. now, as i said there, it's . gb news. now, as i said there, wsfime . gb news. now, as i said there, it's time for this week's outside. and i'm joined by a

very special guest. as i said, he'll be a familiar face for many of our gb news audience. he attracted worldwide attention after he came out as a trans racial korean man . this led to racial korean man. this led to him facing death threats and abuse, exposing a vile side of internet fame. a viral internet sensation. he's more recently been warning of the dangers of trans ideology and had , i think trans ideology and had, i think it's safe to say, a pretty fair amount of backlash on that, too. he previously revealed he spent almost £250,000 on cosmetic surgeries . now, olly has been surgeries. now, olly has been open about his gender transition and detransition and now has released a book. it's called gender madness. one man's devastating struggle with woke ideology and his battle to protect children. i'm thrilled to say joining me now in the studio is olly london. olly, thank you very much for coming in. >> so good to see you finally. >> so good to see you finally. >> it's nice to see the book in the flesh as well. i know. >> here it is. it's finally out. it's just come out in america.

so i've just got back from my american tour. brilliant. i'm very excited for people to read this. >> but i hear people have already been trying cancel already been trying to cancel you yes. so i've had so you over it. yes. so i've had so many trans activists leaving one star reviews on book review sites from amazon goodreads sites from amazon to goodreads and retailers. >> then i also had some other issues in us, so my book was issues in the us, so my book was meant to in the biggest meant to be in the biggest bookstore, barnes and noble's, which equivalent which is the equivalent of waterstones. last waterstones. and at the last minute out. so they minute they pulled out. so they were to stock in were meant to stock it in stores. yet they're stocking books pride, books like grandpa's pride, which plus, and it which is aged four plus, and it has men fetish gear in has men in fetish gear in pictures. so they're stocking that, refuse stock that, but they refuse to stock my so i've had a my book in stores. so i've had a hard time, but i've also had so much tremendous from much tremendous support from parents, are parents, from teachers that are saying this book is really helping them now, do think helping them now, do you think it's detransition it's the element of detransition and think that and do you actually think that you're seen as as someone you're almost seen as as someone that's gone against it and perhaps bed that's gone against it and periidea bed that's gone against it and periidea that bed that's gone against it and periidea that once bed that's gone against it and periidea that once you've bed that's gone against it and periidea that once you've made the idea that once you've made your mind up and said, look, you know, is who am, this is know, this is who i am, this is my identity moving forwards, that actually ain't always so. 50. >> so. >> yeah. i mean, it's going

against the narrative and they really that. really hate that. >> why i do say this. >> and that's why i do say this. the new trans activists, they are like a cult. because once you leave cult, they you leave that cult, they demonise they try to cancel demonise you. they try to cancel you. don't people to you. they don't want people to know that there are know the truth, that there are many, out there that many, many people out there that detransition through many, many people out there that detrarstruggles through many, many people out there that detrarstruggles withthrough many, many people out there that detrarstruggles with identity these struggles with identity and gender. they realise, you know what, i was pushed into this i went through this for this or i went through this for the wrong reasons. and when they dare to speak out, they are cancelled and demonised. so what dare to speak out, they are can

many british people ? many british people? >> yeah, that's the issue because, look, nobody was talking about trans issues a few years ago. >> it wasn't until these trans activists decided we want to come for your children, we want to children to condition your children to believe they're believe that they're transgender, that is when people really notice and were really took notice and were like, this is wrong. so now we're seeing in british schools, you know, gender neutral restrooms introduced . restrooms being introduced. we're giving we're seeing teachers giving kids pronouns and even kids preferred pronouns and even giving rewards for giving them rewards for transitioning. and sometimes the parents aren't even aware. we, of the horrors of of course, saw the horrors of the tavistock clinic, which is still going. it's not shut down just it's going. so just yet. it's still going. so we've horrors we've seen these horrors exposed. think it's exposed. so i think it's inherently these people inherently evil for these people to target children. and look, it damages lgbt community damages the lgbt community because we've seen pride parades recently become basically recently have become basically fetish when there are fetish parades when there are children present. and this is a sexualization pushed on sexualization being pushed on young . so it really young people. so it really damages normal lesbian, gay damages like normal lesbian, gay and people and, you and bisexual people and, you know, trans people that have just been living their lives for many suddenly this many years. suddenly this movement been by these many years. suddenly this movemepushingeen by these many years. suddenly this movemepushing this by these people, pushing this sexualization on young kids.

>> what was it then, if >> and what was it then, if i can a personal question, can ask a personal question, what that you think, what was it that made you think, look, i'm going to spend almost £250,000 on this cosmetic surgery? was it a deep rooted thought? a lot of the trans debate people talk about having feelings where they reject their own body, where they can't stand themselves and they seek change. do you ever think that change comes with surgery? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> so, i mean, i talk a lot in in the book gender madness, about these issues and what led to it. so there's a variety of factors. for me, it was bullying. i struggled with severe gender severe body dysmorphia, gender dysphoria , and, dysphoria as well, and, you know, bad relationship know, had a bad relationship with my father. so all of these things affected me and led me to want start changing myself. want to start changing myself. initially, living initially, i was living in korea, so started having korea, so i started having surgeries of get the surgeries to kind of get the korean because, korean aesthetic because, you know, was along with the know, i was going along with the narrative allowed narrative that you're allowed to identify to identify as anything you want to according woke activists. according these woke activists. so they got a little bit upset with me you know, going with me for, you know, going against narrative. and with me for, you know, going again you narrative. and with me for, you know, going again you know, 'rative. and with me for, you know, going againyou know, obviouslyd had

then, you know, obviously i had more had facial more surgeries, i had facial feminisation know, it feminisation and, you know, it was temporary happiness. i was a temporary happiness. and i think young people are think a lot of young people are experiencing this. they are changing themselves because they want serotonin want that fixed, that serotonin rush down, it's only rush but deep down, it's only going to make their problems worse. best thing to worse. i think the best thing to do is address mental health struggles and give more support for be for young people that may be going depression, that going through depression, that may autism may be struggling on the autism spectrum, being spectrum, and they are being wrongly and told wrongly misdiagnosed and told that they are transgender and then on puberty blockers and then put on puberty blockers and hormones. think we need to hormones. so i think we need to give more mental support give more mental health support for young and, you know, give more mental health support for them] and, you know, give more mental health support for them speak and, you know, give more mental health support for them speak about. you know, give more mental health support for them speak about these (now, let them speak about these things and tell them that things and not tell them that you need to transition, because things and not tell them that ythinkad to transition, because things and not tell them that ythink that transition, because things and not tell them that ythink that isansition, because things and not tell them that ythink that is the tion, because things and not tell them that ythink that is the wrongacause i think that is the wrong approach to push on a child so early. >> i m early. »i early. >> i do you think tiktok >> i mean, do you think tiktok has a to answer for here? has a lot to answer for here? because it's, as you know, because it's, as you well know, it's a massively successful platform kids . and a platform for young kids. and a lot content see on lot of the content i see on there if you dare say there is, if you dare say a woman can't have a penis, you'll be off the platform be thrown off the platform quicker than i don't know what. but you say, look, i am but if you say, look, i am a woman with a penis, well, happy days, hunky dory, days days, hunky dory, happy days will out all your content

will push out all your content to example, to young children, for example, is there a real problem here with the exacerbation of gender dysphoria on this particular platform ? platform? >> 100. why do you think we've seen this sudden spike in kids transitioning really within the last few years? and tiktok only came to western markets around 2018. then you had the pandemic . so kids were spending, you know many, hours a day on know, many, many hours a day on tiktok and they were being pushed by the algorithm, these gender transition stories. and you notice that if you're trans and showing your and you're showing your transition, whether that's a testosterone you're transition, whether that's a testosterthat you're transition, whether that's a testosterthat with you're transition, whether that's a testosterthat with your'e showing that with your followers, get rewarded with followers, you get rewarded with followers, with likes, with comments . so it is a system that comments. so it is a system that rewards these people to share more and more and more and to share more extremes. hence why dylan mulvaney claims to want to get to be get pregnant, claims to be a lesbian one it is simply lesbian one day. it is simply about, know, they want this about, you know, they want this serotonin fix. and, you know, i also struggle with because serotonin fix. and, you know, i awas;truggle with because serotonin fix. and, you know, i awas reallye with because serotonin fix. and, you know, i awas really addicted because serotonin fix. and, you know, i awas really addicted to 3ecause serotonin fix. and, you know, i awas really addicted to tiktoke i was really addicted to tiktok when trans, you know, for when i was trans, you know, for several years, was seeing several years, i was seeing every day you change your genden every day you change your gender, change your it gender, change your identity. it doesn't you are. doesn't matter who you are.

people you . so now that people accept you. so now that i've stopped tiktok, i've stopped using tiktok, i barely use it. now that has helped me my mental health helped me with my mental health so much. so i it is so much. so i think it is harmful again, if we look at harmful and again, if we look at the between the the correlation between the number transitioning number of kids transitioning since you since tiktok came about, you know, plays a huge know, that plays a huge part. >> so, ollie, you go as >> so, ollie, would you go as far to say, british far as to say, british legislators should actually look at we to ban this ? at saying we ought to ban this? >> i think they need to look at it again, it's owned by it because, again, it's owned by the and the ccp can the china and the ccp can control the data of british people . and, you know, there was people. and, you know, there was recently a court in the uk found over a million under 13 on the app.so over a million under 13 on the app. so that was a violation of tiktok's because there's tiktok's policy because there's no 13. so they're actually no under 13. so they're actually fined several million pounds for that. so, you know , i think that. so, you know, i think legislators need to look at it because the the algorithm because the way the algorithm targets vulnerable kids is incredibly harmful because kids are very susceptible to what they see, especially online. and they see, especially online. and the fact that this algorithm is pushing this transgender content day rewarding day in and day out, rewarding people sharing this, i think people for sharing this, i think that's harmful. so it definitely does be looked at. i'm

does need to be looked at. i'm not sure what right approach not sure what the right approach is, whether it needs to sold is, whether it needs to be sold off to british company and off to a british company and better but it is better managed or not. but it is inherently harmful. >> to just to >> and ollie, just to just to end, what would your message be to who may well to young people who may well have you up until now ? have followed you up until now? they've gone through all this journey who now at journey with you who now look at what saying and feel very what you're saying and feel very hurt by the fact that you're now at the front of the charge saying this is a disruptive ideology . what would your ideology. what would your message be to them to hear you out and to actually take this issue seriously? well, look , i issue seriously? well, look, i understand what these people are going through, whether they're understand what these people are goingorirough, whether they're understand what these people are goingor non—binary.|er they're trans or non—binary. >> vast majority of people >> the vast majority of people are struggling internally . so in are struggling internally. so in order, know, they change order, you know, they change their to seek their identity in order to seek validation to feel better their identity in order to seek valida themselves. el better their identity in order to seek valida themselves. andtter their identity in order to seek valida themselves. and as' their identity in order to seek valida themselves. and as a about themselves. and as a society, it's rewarding these young i think we need young people. so i think we need a better approach. so, you know, i'm up these kids. i'm speaking up for these kids. they feel it now, but they might not feel it now, but maybe in a few years they'll realise, you know what, they've been and they been pushed into this and they just to be themselves just want to be themselves and i think that's important think that's an important message. you know, with my

message. but you know, with my book, people book, i actually teach people that, you know what? learn to love because i didn't love yourself because i didn't love yourself because i didn't love myself for two decades. i had surgeries. love myself for two decades. i had myself rgeries. love myself for two decades. i had myself soeries. love myself for two decades. i had myself so much beyond changed myself so much beyond repair. and, you know, kids just need love need to learn to love themselves. we all go themselves. and we all go through different difficult times. we're times. you know, when we're teenagers, we question ourselves whether our sexuality, whether that's our sexuality, whether that's our sexuality, whether that's our sexuality, whether that's who we who we are as know? it's as a person, you know? but it's totally normal. we shouldn't totally normal. but we shouldn't be that the only be thinking that the only solution fix ourselves solution to fix ourselves temporarily is transition. temporarily is to transition. >> london, good with >> ollie london, good luck with the you very much the book. thank you very much for in. thanks, for coming in. thanks, darren. >> appreciate now now, >> appreciate it. now now, folks, darren grimes folks, you're with darren grimes on on telly on on gb news, on telly and on digital radio, filling in for nana akua. >> it's the great >> coming up, it's the great british this hour. i'm british debate this hour. i'm asking sadiq khan be on the asking will sadiq khan be on the right of history over ulez? right side of history over ulez? first, though, it's the weather that warm feeling inside from the boxt boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast over the next 24 hours or so, there will be showers or some

longer spells of rain , but longer spells of rain, but there'll be some bright spells, particularly on monday. but with a westerly breeze it is a north westerly breeze it is staying on the cool side for the time of year . staying on the cool side for the time of year. but there will be some brighter breaks every so often and we do some of often and we do have some of them through this evening time across areas. any across central areas. any heavy showers the will fade showers in the east will fade away, it is cloudy in the away, but it is cloudy in the west rain slowly west with patchy rain slowly pushing its way eastwards. later on this evening and into the early hours, we could see a few heavier bursts of rain on that before it breaks with clearer before it breaks up with clearer spells. then following on behind before it breaks up with clearer speltownsen following on behind before it breaks up with clearer speltowns andllowing on behind before it breaks up with clearer speltowns and citiesg on behind before it breaks up with clearer speltowns and cities generally1d and towns and cities generally holding double figures. holding up in double figures. single in the single figures in the countryside. means fairly countryside. it means a fairly fresh start to monday morning . fresh start to monday morning. there will be a few showers across the north and the west from word go, but more in from the word go, but more in the of spells to start the way of sunny spells to start monday compared to sunday. but as we through the day, the as we go through the day, the cloud bubble there will cloud will bubble up. there will be of showers, but be a scattering of showers, but some places stay and some places will stay dry and the showers lighter the showers much lighter compared as well. and compared to sunday as well. and temperatures feeling temperatures just feeling a little too . highs of little warmer, too. highs of around about 21 or 22 celsius

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news. the people's channel, britain's news . news. the people's channel, britain's news. channel >> hello. you're with darren grimes on gb news on telly and on digital radio, filling in for nana akua . it's time for our nana akua. it's time for our next great british debate of this hour. i'm asking, is sadiq khan on the right side of history with ulez? the expansion of sadiq khan's ultra low emission zone is fast approaching . from the 29th of approaching. from the 29th of august, ulez will be expanded across greater london, which will mean . oh, good afternoon . will mean. oh, good afternoon. >> from a noisy tooting broadway

. we know what a tooting broadway is famous for. don't we? apart from getting khan out , power to the people, freedom and all that stuff , there are and all that stuff, there are lots of people here today. lots and lots . and lots. >> there's always lots and lots as you can see, the support again is incredible from motorists . motorists. >> khan's an embarrassment. he's an absolute embarrassment to london. >> hey, people power there, isn't it? because actually what this means is that londoners will pay a charge of 12 $0.50 per day for the worst polluting cars on the road. now this expanse of ulez has attracted as you've just seen, controversy . you've just seen, controversy. and it was widely considered by political pundits as the reason behind the conservative party's ability to hold on to what was bofis ability to hold on to what was boris johnson's seat of uxbridge and south ruislip. here's that clip there that we saw in tooting. that was in tooting, by the way, yesterday, just yesterday. so the metropolitan

police, who you would think would have far more important things to concern themselves with, have also vowed to throw considerable resources at protecting this week's expansion, amid fears that the rollout will prompt more protest. so for this week's the great british debate this hour , great british debate this hour, i'm asking is sadiq khan on the right side of history with ulez? i'm joined by former metropolitan police detective peter bleksley, senior meteorologist at british weather services, jim dale , and services, jim dale, and political commentator peter spencen political commentator peter spencer. now i'll start with you, jim . you're never afraid to you, jim. you're never afraid to go for it on this particular issue. i'm assuming you're totally with sadiq khan and say all power to you, mate . all power to you, mate. >> yeah, i think i am . he's the >> yeah, i think i am. he's the elected mayor elected by londoners . uh, elected mayor elected by londoners. uh, he's elected mayor elected by londoners . uh, he's got londoners. uh, he's got a mandate to move forward with this. i don't. i don't see a problem with it. yes, some. some may be financial problems that i

think have been been sorted. keir starmer i'd a word after the uxbridge by—election. i don't think that was lost because of it. by the way. um, but this is the right direction. look, we all want clean air. we all want to go in that direction. london's air is cleaner was in the cleaner than it was in the central zones , we that central zones, and we need that to that into the outer to expand that into the outer zones and make sure that zones now and make sure that people are not affected by nitrogen dioxide and carbon monoxide and people who are against this basically just want to take us back 20, 30 years and that's essentially what this is about. >> all right. i mean, peter spencer there. james saying, you know, uxbridge, he doesn't think was lost over ulez. i mean, labour party are 20 polls, 20 points rather ahead in the polls right now. i mean, they should be across the piece. be winning across the piece. surely is down to sadiq surely it is down to sadiq khan's penchant for making us pay khan's penchant for making us pay £1,250 a day . pay £1,250 a day. >> well, of course it happened to coincide with the by—election >> so what otherwise would doubtless have generated loads of grumbles around the place, really focussed minds and made

this into a very big issue indeed. >> but if you look at it more broadly , what we've seen this broadly, what we've seen this summer is , is endless succession summer is, is endless succession of frankly terrifying weather events, many of which have been unpredictable and many of which have cost many lives . and so i'm have cost many lives. and so i'm looking at the wider picture here and thinking any thing which will help to wean humanity's helped wean humanity off its addiction and its penchant for anything that involves fossil fuels has surely got to be a good thing. >> and it's not an event. >> and it's not an event. >> it's a process. and of course, it will annoy a lot of people. >> i mean, think of the way that the zeitgeist was shifted over ciggies that that that, you know, they didn't the government didn't go down the american route of prohibition and saying you can't have them any more. >> but there's endless upping of the taxing and the messaging and

bit by bit it's come about that what wasn't called what was called no longer is. >> so what i say is i come back to the old tesco thing and say every little helps. >> well mean little bit >> well, i mean every little bit of extra burden just certainly doesn't , does it? but peter doesn't help, does it? but peter bleksley, i want to to you bleksley, i want to come to you as former metropolitan police as a former metropolitan police detective. pete at the detective. i mean, pete at the met are going to have some serious you see that serious issues. did you see that at start there where the at the start there where the protests were happening yesterday tooting? i mean, yesterday in tooting? i mean, these are going go off these things are going to go off these things are going to go off the aren't they? there's the piece, aren't they? there's going be lot of pushback going to be a lot of pushback against because people are against this because people are saying, cannot afford to take saying, i cannot afford to take on burden. they're actually on this burden. they're actually saying , we so much about saying, we talk so much about climate change, but all i'm seeing fires across europe seeing is fires across europe that being started by that are being started by arsonists and they want to protest about it. peter yes . protest about it. peter yes. >> well, this entire very messy situation in shows quite clearly why why the mayor of london should not also be the de facto police and crime commissioner, because what do we have here?

>> we have sadiq khan telling us all that the ulez extension is about particulates and pollution . and many people are saying that actually isn't true. it's about pound notes and it's about politics. yes. and now, as the witching hour comes ever closer here, we will see, unfortunately, considerable police resources deployed to try and prevent that and then detect criminal damage to the camera network. there's already been hundreds of cameras damaged and there will, i'm sure, be much more of that. and of course, i couldn't condone it in any way, but police are going to have to be involved . metropolitan be involved. metropolitan police, precious resources will be deployed to protecting and investigating those crimes. and they of course, by natural extension , will be seen as being extension, will be seen as being politicised by the london mayor, as if they are doing his dirty

work for him. okay, so the police get dragged into the politics of it all. they become even more unpopular and the situation remains as messy and as unsatisfactory as ever. >> all right. we'll have to leave it there, unfortunately, but thank you to each of you for your time there. that was just there. the former police, metropol police officer peter bleksley , senior meteorologist bleksley, senior meteorologist at british weather services jim dale, and political commentator peter spencer fawkes . these are peter spencer fawkes. these are with darren grimes on gb news on telly and digital radio coming up, we'll continue our great british debate. i want to get stuck in on this. will sadiq khan be on the right side of history over ulez ? i'm saying history over ulez? i'm saying no. you'll hear the thoughts of my christine hamilton and my panel. christine hamilton and danny kelly. but first, here's the news headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> darren, thank you. this is the latest from the newsroom. nadine dorries has accused rishi sunak of whipping up a public

frenzy against her and says he doesn't have the x factor of a winning prime minister in a blistering resignation letter, the former minister accused mr sunak of demeaning his office by criticising her. she says his government has abandoned conservatism and the 2019 election manifesto, which was published before boris johnson won an 80 seat majority. a by—election, will now take place in the usually safe tory seat of mid bedfordshire fire fighters say the government has shown callous disregard for the safety of those on board the bibby stockholm barge . the fire stockholm barge. the fire brigades union has sent a pre—action protocol letter to the home secretary outlining its concerns over safety aboard the vessel portland. the union previously branded the barge a potential death trap. it's now demanding a response to its legal letter by thursday . legal letter by thursday. russian investigators say genetics tests confirm yevgeny prigogine died in a plane crash on wednesday . the former boss on wednesday. the former boss was on the passenger list of a

private jet that crashed north of moscow. months after a failed rebellion against russia's military. mikhail kasyanov was prime minister of russia from 2000 until 2004. he told gb news this morning that prigozhin had put unforgivable pressure on putin over his management of the war in . ukraine and the west of war in. ukraine and the west of london has been buzzing with fun and celebrations today with the return of the notting hill carnival. caribbean culture is at the heart of the annual event with food, music, art other with food, music, art and other attractions bringing visitors to the famously bohemian part of london. the city's mayor sadiq khan, described the festival as part of the very fabric of our city. the carnival takes place today and tomorrow . you can get today and tomorrow. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , visiting our website, gbnews.com. now it's back to . darren >> she has tatiana , you're with

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kelly. now now, christine. come on, jim dale. they're in that last segment. he said, for those that missed it, he said, this is all about climate change. is it about climate change or is it about climate change or is it about penny pinching? >> well, you could have fooled me. if it's about climate change. mean climate change. you mean climate catastrophe? think, you? catastrophe? i think, don't you? that's have to climate. that's what we have to climate. >> i apologise. >> i apologise. >> no, to me it's all about money. if he was really interested the lung health of interested in the lung health of londoners, he be tackling londoners, he would be tackling the than the the tube rather than the motorist. the motorist is an easy cash cow and extending it to the outer outer london is just going to hit small businesses and people who can ill afford it. it's utterly, utterly absurd . and i think, if utterly absurd. and i think, if i may say, the government has been very mealy mouthed and pathetic on this because their legal advice was that they can't challenge extending ulez to outer london. i think that's i'm not a legal person, but i think that's wrong. and even if the legal advice was that why don't they challenge it? why don't they challenge it? why don't they take a more robust view, at least throw the what do you call

it when you, you know, throw it across his path? you know, what do you call that when you chuck something out across somebody's path, put a barrier across their path, put a barrier across their path, governments path, all governments have to decide on priorities. priorities. his priorities. stop him in his tracks, stop him in his tracks. i mean, you know, you have to decide whether you're going to spend cleaner or spend money on cleaner air or nhs whatever. that's what nhs or or whatever. that's what government do. for government has to do. and for them oh, we're not them just to say, oh, we're not going to contest this because the legal that it the legal advice is that it won't i just think it's won't work. i just think it's pathetic. and i think they should go hammer and tongs at him. course, it's all about him. of course, it's all about money, danny, question. money, danny, same question. >> me tell you, i've >> let me let me tell you, i've dnven >> let me let me tell you, i've driven 96 miles down the driven 96 miles down from the west birmingham an west midlands. birmingham has an identical draconian ou les criteres area for cars. now, when khan says it's not about money, i'm sorry, sadiq, i do not believe you. you want £12.5 not believe you. you want £125 to drive in london. birmingham is £8. bristol same rules. £9. sadiq khan gives you four days to pay the £125. birmingham and bristol i'll give you seven days. >> and what happens after the four days? >> sadiq khan wants £180 off you

birmingham and bristol wants 120. so when he says it's not about the money, i'm sorry, i'm going to take that with a pinch of salt. i'm not to going call the man a liar, but i'm going to take that with a pinch of salt, because if he wants to be sympathetic to hard working sympathetic to the hard working class greater class londoners in greater london, give them london, he would give them a week to pay it. he would charge them £8 pay he would them £8 to pay it. he would charge £9 to pay so i'm charge them £9 to pay it. so i'm sorry, sadiq. i do not believe you. >> and he would have an exemption small exemption for the for small tradesmen and small businessmen, for example. if you're for example. so if you're just jollying bit jollying into london for a bit of fun and frivolity, maybe you pay of fun and frivolity, maybe you pay this is about saving pay johnny this is about saving the lungs young the lungs of young people. >> climate change >> this is about climate change and has to be a balance. and there has to be a balance. >> i use this analogy see the government say it's okay to drive at 30 miles an hour in residential but they know residential areas, but they know that driving ten miles that by not driving at ten miles an unfortunately, people that by not driving at ten miles an going|nfortunately, people that by not driving at ten miles an going|nf(get1ately, people that by not driving at ten miles an going|nf(get hitely, people that by not driving at ten miles an going|nf(get hit by people that by not driving at ten miles an going|nf(get hit by carsyle that by not driving at ten miles an going|nf(get hit by cars and are going to get hit by cars and more going to be more people are going to be killed that's because they killed and that's because they understand the balance between getting life, getting on with your life, earning and having good earning a living and having good mental just as mental health is just as

important as potentially breathing alpine breathing in not alpine alpine clean has to be a clean air. there has to be a balance that's going be balance that's going to be struck. christine, you mentioned >> and christine, you mentioned tradesmen. they're these low traffic the traffic neighbourhoods and the ulez and all the rest of it. they're being clobbered left, right aren't they? right and centre, aren't they? >> are. and if >> absolutely they are. and if you want, for example, to you really want, for example, to cut all traffic accidents, you would a man with a flag would have a man with a red flag walking front of cars so that walking in front of cars so that they only at they were only going at pedestrian rate. of course, it's a between this. yes, it a balance between this. yes, it to me it and what happened to me it is. and what happened in outbreak uxbridge be in outbreak uxbridge ought to be a across the bows. a warning shot across the bows. that's was looking at that's what i was looking at earlier, for very earlier, looking for very good a shot the bows to how shot across the bows as to how strongly people feel about this charge and when it hits people in their pockets. and these are people make a living. people trying to make a living. they're multi—millionaires . they're not multi—millionaires. they're not multi—millionaires. they're trying they're not rich. they're trying to builders and to make a living as builders and plasterers and all that sort of thing. electricians, there was a wonderful the wonderful photograph in the newspapers a few weeks ago when this expansion was proposed, or we knew it was coming fast down the tracks of somebody trying to get the tools of his trade into the underground . he'd got

the underground. he'd got a ladder and he'd got buckets and all that and the other. all this, that and the other. and it impossible. you see, and it is impossible. you see, they their vans and they they need their vans and they need to be to bring their need to be able to bring their vans central london. so vans into central london. so earn a living. yes. well, absolute. >> and that's pretty hard to do at the minute, right? in a cost of living crisis, danny, may i just add one final thing from the fabulous northeast? >> got a air zone. >> you've got a clean air zone. you an ultra low you haven't got an ultra low emission zone. you've a emission zone. you've got a clean zone. the car clean air zone. now the car i drove down, i'm a dealer. drove down, i'm a car dealer. i drive loads of different cars. the car i drove down today is non—compliant. i've got to pay £12.5. if i went up to the north—east, it would be compliant. the hell compliant. now, what the hell is the difference clean air the difference between clean air and newcastle clean air london? >> but you have raised an important though, that >> but you have raised an impyisn'tt though, that >> but you have raised an impyisn't just though, that >> but you have raised an impyisn't just isolatedjh, that >> but you have raised an impyisn't just isolated to that this isn't just isolated to london. is happening. london. this is happening. this assault on motorists is taking place and the country assault on motorists is taking placit and the country assault on motorists is taking placit willnd the country assault on motorists is taking placit will spread. the country assault on motorists is taking placit will spread. whereyuntry assault on motorists is taking placit will spread. where does' and it will spread. where does it and more? where it end? more and more? where does end? does it end? >> just need to reinforce the >> i just need to reinforce the fact that there are other cities and towns across country and towns across the country which draconian which don't have the draconian rules, they don't want £12.5 rules, so they don't want £12.5 off you. they don't want four days you to pay they

days for you to pay it. they don't £180. but don't want £180. fine. but they're still to drive they're still able to drive these 2014 plate diesels that you can't in london. >> so just finally, very briefly, do you think there are going to be more protests like those we saw yesterday in tooting? >> absolutely hope so. and >> i absolutely hope so. and i don't condone criminal activity at all. it's an indication of the level of feeling people have against this, the number of these cameras who've been have been destroyed. and waste been destroyed. and what a waste of having to police of police time having to police all that. >> but the police have to do it. >> but the police have to do it. >> i agree with jim. they have to do it. >> and jim made some very valid points. you know, the points. you know, he's the elected mayor. his second elected mayor. it's his second term. he's elected term. obviously. he's elected because and he because he's popular and he comes policies that comes with policies that are popular him popular enough to get him elected. and old bill, the elected. and the old bill, the police to you. police have got to arrest you. they see hacking down a they see you hacking down a camera. got to be nicked. camera. you've got to be nicked. >> so i would say that you can't say all about climate say this is all about climate change, though, when you've just said sadiq khan, you know, that's said. that's what jim said. >> look, has >> well, look, look, jim has has his passionate don't want to his passionate i don't want to use extreme. use the word extreme. >> he's passionate about climate change. but if he thinks that

charging people to get change. but if he thinks that chargifew)eople to get change. but if he thinks that chargifew thousand to get change. but if he thinks that chargifew thousand cars get change. but if he thinks that chargifew thousand cars off: change. but if he thinks that chargifew thousand cars off the these few thousand cars off the road london is going road in greater london is going to anything the to do anything towards the climate. he's really climate. i think he's really deluded. just think of one grain of a oasis desert of sand in a big oasis desert that grain of sand is ulez. okay >> china is building >> and then china is building power stations every single week like you wouldn't believe. >> it's not >> going cold this. it's not right. show though , is right. this show though, is about views and your about your views and your opinion. much more important than ours, i'm afraid to say. so let's welcome one of our great british voices your opportunity to be on the show and tell us what you really think about the topics we're discussing this houn topics we're discussing this hour. heading to milton hour. we're heading to milton keynes to with regular keynes to speak with regular voice doctor , sachin mudaliar. voice doctor, sachin mudaliar. hello there, doctor . now, milton hello there, doctor. now, milton keynes are you hang on. have milton keynes got a some form of charge? have you got a charge yet? not yet, no . are you yet? not yet, no. are you excited? would you like one to be brought about ? how are you be brought about? how are you feeling about ulez then ? feeling about ulez then? >> i think very much like most of the londoners and i think i

don't think sadiq khan is on the right side of history. >> darren, from what you've heard today , there's been so heard today, there's been so many protests , so much many protests, so much controversy, as you rightly put it earlier, that sadiq khan, this plan and this rollout of ulez hasn't been well thought through. it's a huge cost to people that are travelling into london. and also in terms of tackling climate change and air pollution. sadiq khan is now saying that the government is trying to weaponize air pollution and he doesn't feel that there's enough support that he's got in comparison to the ulez and the motor charges that have been rolled out in places like birmingham , bristol and like birmingham, bristol and other places . so i think at the other places. so i think at the moment , in terms of other places. so i think at the moment, in terms of getting police in the metropolitan police involved, the reason he's doing it, it seems like it's a final straw to get them sort of to politicise this because he

hasn't had much support. >> yes, but dr. butler, just very, very briefly, if you would , you're a doctor. you've got a doctorate now. do you look at all those you know, the fact that sadiq khan was maybe trying to or sidique khan's deputy, i should say, trying to change some the language of the some of the language of the science ? do you think the science? do you think the science? do you think the science is on the side of sadiq khan argument? khan in this argument? >> well , the from the evidence >> well, the from the evidence that we were reading from the university college london college, imperial college , i college, imperial college, i think there isn't very much evidence to say that this is tackling air pollution and as you've heard from many people , you've heard from many people, there are other ways of tackling air pollution in london in terms of looking at the underground, and that's not just my view. many people have commented on it. this is only one form of tackling air pollution. yes, it's important our lungs looking at air pollution and its effect on people's health. but i don't think the evidence is there to support sadiq khan, unfortunately. well i couldn't

have said it better myself. >> doctor szczesny mudaliar there in milton keynes, thank you very much for being part of our gp voices. now on to a story that caught my eye today. brace yourself. are you ready ? the yourself. are you ready? the duchess of sussex , meghan duchess of sussex, meghan markle, is reportedly set to return to social media. apparently, meghan is ready to relaunch herself on instagram. the poor dear for the first time since her and prince harry stopped using the platform in 2020. and get this, according to some experts, it's predicted that meghan could potentially nearly make a million dollars per post. now let's see what my panel make of that. author and broadcaster christine hamilton, broadcaster christine hamilton, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. hey, i would i'd be posting on instagram for that money, i'll tell you that much for free. >> i'm sure she will make that sort of money. i mean, look at the amount of money, the kardashians make. all meghan has got i wish mother got to do. i wish my mother was called there's h called meghan and there's no h in meghan. so she's meghan. all she's to do is hold

she's got to do is hold a handbag from goodness knows who. let's anybody. marks handbag from goodness knows who. let'sspencer's anybody. marks handbag from goodness knows who. let'sspencer's . anybody. marks handbag from goodness knows who. let'sspencer's . okay, dy. marks handbag from goodness knows who. let'sspencer's . okay, howiarks handbag from goodness knows who. let'sspencer's . okay, how about and spencer's. okay, how about that? are available that? other brands are available and will make she. sure and she will make she. i'm sure she'll terribly successful she'll be terribly successful but the royal but she tarnishes the royal brand . i think she's finally brand. i think she's finally realised that the royal brand is disappearing over the horizon. i just wish she would also say i have no wish to be called the duchess of sussex anymore. i am back to being meghan markle and if trash it and if she wants to trash it and commercialise it all, then just do as markle no, do it. as meghan markle no, i worked marks for years and worked for marks for years and i very much doubt the marks customer would be happy about. >> markle i'm sure they >> meghan markle i'm sure they wouldn't, not wouldn't, but that's not actually happen, the actually going to happen, by the way. danny wonder way. and danny kelly i wonder then this whole idea of then on this, this whole idea of coming back social media this coming back to social media this week, saw that donald trump week, we saw that donald trump might tweeting again. trump's might be tweeting again. trump's tweets are you more excited then about trump back or meghan markle you know, i have a peculiar position here because i really like donald trump and i don't actually have a problem with meghan markle. >> normally it's one or the other, so and i'm not on social media. i'm one of the few people

who ever appears on gb news who doesn't have any social media foot prints. far too sensible, far in a way , far too sensible. so in a way, i'm going to say good luck to her. i'm going to say good luck to hen dont i'm going to say good luck to her. don't have a problem with her. i don't have a problem with her. i don't have a problem with her. just going back to your her. but just going back to your donald trump tweet, i think when he because he was on twitter, because invariably it makes news. invariably it makes the news. yes. was twitter, the yes. when he was on twitter, the world happier place, world was a happier place, without a doubt, because it annoyed right as well. >> well, i agree on that, honestly. but i mean, what irks me, what a masterstroke. >> he's very first tweet and i think it two years was that think it is two years was that i thought it was an extraordinary mugshot. thought did mugshot. i thought when you did a like you'd be a mugshot like that, you'd be told, you know, chin up, look straight. instead this sort straight. instead of this sort of police had a time of before the police had a time to anything it at all, to do anything about it at all, bang, was there. bang, it was out there. brilliant. >> incredible. but >> absolutely incredible. but now for supplement now it's time for supplement sunday, where panel sunday, where my panel and i discuss news stories discuss some of the news stories that caught our eyes. danny i'm going start with you. danny going to start with you. danny supplement a james bond supplement is about a james bond esque mansion . esque mansion. >> it's great story on tv. you >> it's a great story on tv. you get adverts this one was it's called an omaze properties .

called an omaze properties. basically, you buy raffle tickets 20, 25, £30. you can buy bundles and one of the prizes was a £3 million. james bond style mansion with a big infinity swimming pool. so in beautiful devon, i think, and overlooking the beautiful coast . the problem was with coastal erosion. there's only 5 to 10 years before it crumbles and slips down the mountainside. so the guy who won this for £25 ticket is now in some sort of journey. >> i've got my female producers in my ear asking if that comes with daniel craig and his blue swimming trunks. swimming trunks that will come, that will excite other people. >> not necessarily myself , but >> not necessarily myself, but no daniel craig. but what you do get is you get a coastal erosion and the land coming closer to you than you thought it would ever be. you'll be on the beach within 5 or 10 years. >> well, well , he wants he wants >> well, well, he wants he wants to have the equivalent money. >> the money, money equivalent. £3 apparently, because £3 million, apparently, because the house about to fall into the house is about to fall into the house is about to fall into the i mean, i think the sea. well, i mean, i think that's fair enough, don't you

think? yes. although he should have should have have perhaps he should have realised bought the realised when he bought the ticket on the ticket that it was right on the coast i don't know. coast and. i don't know. >> maybe the property >> well maybe the property people should realised that people should have realised that when it in june for when they bought it in june for 3.8 million, have 3.8 million, they should have realised that june 20th, 21 and june it going to be on june 2031 it was going to be on the . yes. the beach. yes. >> well, from daniel craig's blue to christine blue briefs to christine hamilton. now, christine hamilton. now, christine hamilton to express 150 hamilton is about to express 150 ways to say genders. >> if i was here all night, i couldn't think of 150 ways to express gender. but the people who are apparently going to do this are the staff at great ormond street hospital who have been told that there are 150 ways to express gender power. this was by a talk that was given to the great ormond street hospital staff by a trans campaign group and the hospital. this is what i find the most alarming is this hospital has been named as one of the new child gender care centres in the wake of the closure of the tavistock clinic. and there's an organisation called global

butterflies, which is a trans campaign group which told the staff at great ormond street to stop using gendered languages, language such as guys and ladies, and we 150 ways to express gender. it's absurd. >> earlier this hour , we had >> earlier this hour, we had ollie london, who is a detransitioning. now, do you worry, christine, all of this not essence, is actually going to exacerbate , kate. the gender to exacerbate, kate. the gender dysphoria spike that's going through the young generation. >> absolutely. and ollie spoke very , you know, strongly from very, you know, strongly from personal experience and very powerful . sally, i thought about powerful. sally, i thought about how he regrets the transitioning. i mean, he hasn't transitioned from a man to a woman. he's always remained a man. but i mean, he showed me a photograph of himself before he started transitioning . very good started transitioning. very good looking young man. and he has completely changed himself out of recognition because he of all recognition because he wanted look korean and he now wanted to look korean and he now regrets he says it was regrets it. he says it was a mental condition and if only he had had stronger advice. >> and danny, when he was younger. what do make of all

younger. what do you make of all of haven't they got of this? 150? haven't they got really things to be really important things to be focusing on? >> you know, i use the word insidious earlier and insidious suggests slow creep and suggests a very slow creep and mission almost. and that's mission creep almost. and that's the not only the wrong word, because not only is longer a very slow, is it no longer a very slow, inconspicuous mission creep, it's actually fully got its claws into society . and that's claws into society. and that's just another example of where we've gone. we've come at a huge acceleration of lunacy. we've come from 0 to 100 miles an hour over the last 8 or 10 years where if you object, whereas if you push back, then they throw all of these cards at you, you're a bigot, you're a transphobe when all you are, you're just one of 99% of the normal population, 0.9, 9. >> i mean, great ormond street hosphal >> i mean, great ormond street hospital. think hospital. gosh. which i think is a way of calling it. a wonderful way of calling it. gosh, there to care for gosh, they're there to care for babies and young children and to make they not make them well, they are not there push ideology . there to push gender ideology. >> can you see this getting >> but can you see this getting any soon? any better any time soon? i mean. well, i'll tell you one thing that worries me is, as danny says, 99 point, i think nine, 9% of the population

regard all this as nonsense. >> but if they put their head above the parapet publicly, they get slaughtered. look what get so slaughtered. look what happened j.k. rowling, for happened to j.k. rowling, for example. i she's had death example. i mean, she's had death threats. treated threats. she's been treated in the appalling she's the most appalling way. she's been tried to been sort of they've tried to cancel her. and the average person is worried about that. >> couldn't agree more. >> well, i couldn't agree more. christine hamilton there now . christine hamilton there now. now, on show, we've been now, on today's show, we've been asking , has now, on today's show, we've been asking, has home office been asking, has the home office been taken over a blob? taken over by a woke blob? according to our twitter poll, 89.7% of you say yes. and 10.3% of you say no. thank you so much to my panel. broadcaster and author christine hamilton and broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. and thank you at home for your company. it's been an absolute pleasure to stand in for nana akua. she'll be back next weekend, so don't worry , next weekend, so don't worry, you will not want to miss her return . but now going to return. but now i'm going to leave you with the weather forecast. i hope you have a good weekend . weekend. >> temperature is rising . >> the temperature is rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

weather on. gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. i'm craig snell. we're looking ahead to the new week. for most of us, it's going to stay changeable. some further spells of sunshine, but some of sunshine, but also some further rain at times. so as we end sunday, we've got this weak weather front which will gradually way a gradually spread its way a little bit eastwards . a little bit further eastwards. a ridge high pressure to ridge of high pressure trying to build it may well build in for monday. it may well just things briefly, just settle things down briefly, but sunday, you can but as we end sunday, you can just that weather front just just see that weather front just gradually working way gradually working its way eastwards. patchy. and eastwards. rain very patchy. and either plenty either side, we'll see plenty of clear and under the clear clear spells and under the clear skies, may just see some skies, we may just see some patchy mist and fog. for most towns however, towns and cities, however, temperatures comfortably temperatures staying comfortably in figures . so as we in double figures. so as we start monday, a bank holiday for most of us, a bright start for a lot of us actually still this area of cloud across central areas and that will just spread its way a little bit further eastwards . and go into the eastwards. and as we go into the afternoon, actually many parts seeing some cloud around and that thick enough that cloud will be thick enough in produce some in places to produce some showers, across

showers, mainly focussed across western and northern showers, mainly focussed across western for and northern showers, mainly focussed across western for most and northern showers, mainly focussed across western for most it's northern showers, mainly focussed across western for most it's anrthern showers, mainly focussed across western for most it's a warmer ireland. for most it's a warmer feeling day could see highs reaching around 21, 22 down towards the south eastern corner into tuesday, a very similar day . a lot of dry weather around, but there will be some showers. this line of showers will just gradually spread its way a little bit further southwards as gradually spread its way a litt go )it further southwards as gradually spread its way a litt go )it furthethe uthwards as gradually spread its way a litt g0)it furthethe coursejs as gradually spread its way a litt go )it furthethe course ofas gradually spread its way a litt g0)it furthethe course of the we go through the course of the day. we go through the course of the dayand later on, some >> and then later on, some blustery showers working into the northwest of scotland the far northwest of scotland wednesday, , but wednesday, similar still, but then on thursday, we could see a longer spell of rain arriving from the west throughout the day , the temperatures rising , boxt , the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on

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