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ofa of a winning prime minister in a blistering resignation letter , blistering resignation letter, the former minister accused mr sunak of demeaning his office by criticising her. she says his government has abandoned concern autism and the 2019 election manifesto , which was published manifesto, which was published before boris johnson , won an 80 before boris johnson, won an 80 seat majority . a by—election seat majority. a by—election will now take place in the usually safe tory seat of
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mid—bedfordshire . five fighters mid—bedfordshire. five fighters say the government has shown callous disregard for the safety of those on board the bibby stockholm barge. the fire bngades stockholm barge. the fire brigades union has sent a pre—action protocol letter to the home secretary, suella braverman, outlining its concerns over safety aboard the vessel, which is currently docked at dorset's portland port . the union previously branded the barge a potential death trap . it's now demanding a response to its legal letter. by thursday , russian investigators say genetics tests confirm yevgeny prigozhin died in a plane crash on wednesday . the wagner boss on wednesday. the wagner boss was on the passenger list of a private jet that crashed north of moscow months after a failed rebellion against russia's military . rebellion against russia's military. mikhail rebellion against russia's military . mikhail kasyanov was military. mikhail kasyanov was prime minister of russia from 2000 until 2004. he told gb news this morning that prigozhin had put unforgivable pressure on putin over his management of the war in ukraine. a breach in the
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metropolitan police's it system could cause in calculable damage in the wrong hands. that's according to the police federation . own scotland yard federation. own scotland yard says it's aware of unauthorised access to the it system of one of its suppliers as they're now working with the company to ascertain whether data may have been breached . the company had been breached. the company had access to names, ranks, photos , access to names, ranks, photos, vetting levels and pay numbers , vetting levels and pay numbers, but not personal details such as addresses . and finally, monster addresses. and finally, monster hunters have heard for distinctive noises during the biggest search for the loch ness monster in half a century. these are pictures coming live to us from loch ness, where it has been a slightly brighter day than yesterday, say the research team from edinburgh said the noises were heard using an underwater microphone. international interest in the search is high with hunters from australia, canada and america also taking part . this is gb
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also taking part. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on digital radio and on car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play . play. gb news. >> a very good morning and welcome to the camilla tominey show with me. tom harwood. well, i'm delighted that joining me to discuss what's perhaps behind the front pages today in our paper review is giles kenningham, who was the number 10 communications chief for david cameron. giles, thanks for being with us this morning. it's interesting , across the papers, interesting, across the papers, there have been a lot of interviews with senior political figures. >> yeah, big set pieces , i >> yeah, big set pieces, i suppose people taking advantage of the fact quite a quite a sort of the fact quite a quite a sort of quiet news cycle during the summer and trying to get their agenda out obviously
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agenda out there. obviously i suppose delicate truce in suppose the delicate truce in the party been the tory party has been shattered today this shattered today by this bombshell interview nadine bombshell interview from nadine dorries . dorries. >> shall we start with then the mail on sunday? because they've got this spread that inaya includes the really quite feisty resignation letter of nadine dorries . what's she saying? dorries. what's she saying? >> i mean, she doesn't pull her punches. she basically says sunak has no mandate to lead the party. she kind of indulges in a bit of class warfare, talking about his prada shoes , his about his prada shoes, his savile row shirt, and basically says he has deserted the core values of the conservative party. now a huge political headache for the conservative party. why is that? because they're now going to have to fight a by—election, which they probably they're probably won't win, but they're going throw the going to have to throw the kitchen at it, have to kitchen sink at it, have to throw money at it comes throw a lot of money at it comes at a time when we saw two days ago that they are actually in debt and will be a huge opportunity cost. and you're probably going to have a by—election probably just on the eve and after eve of conference. and after conference sunak trying to conference is sunak trying to sort reset, the party,
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sort of reset, get the party, but also set out roadmap to but also set out the roadmap to the general election. but also set out the roadmap to the the general election. but also set out the roadmap to the the general of action. but also set out the roadmap to the the general of most. but also set out the roadmap to the the general of most political >> the moment of most political pain perhaps for the prime minister . i pain perhaps for the prime minister. i suppose. nadine dorries has always been a bit of a thorn in the side of many prime ministers when you were working in number 10, what was the sort of reaction to how she was behaving? of course, famously she went into the jungle in 2012. >> yeah, she was one of the so—called awkward squad, one of the agitators , but probably not the agitators, but probably not as big a problem as she is for sunak as she was for us. i think the kind of attitude was that nadine will be nadine. the kind of attitude was that nadine will be nadine . we tried nadine will be nadine. we tried to placate her, but in accepting that she was always going to probably critic, sniping probably be a critic, sniping from sidelines . but wasn't. from the sidelines. but wasn't. she wasn't a huge, political she wasn't a huge, big political headache then i suppose headache for us then i suppose we need to wait and see what her book reveals. we need to wait and see what her boo if reveals. we need to wait and see what her boo if it's als. we need to wait and see what her boo if it's going be anything >> if it's going to be anything like sort of which is, i like the sort of which is, i think, due on the eve of tory party conference, it? party conference, isn't it? >> it's meant to of >> i think it's meant to sort of lift the on sort of what lift the lid on on sort of what was behind boris johnson's downfall. and obviously, once
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again, launched again, you know, being launched to maximum pain to try and cause maximum pain for tories. for the tories. >> no. fascinating stuff, but also there's a big also there's a there's a big interview the sunday interview in the sunday telegraph you've picked out, which with rachel reeves, which is with rachel reeves, the shadow for she's shadow chancellor for she's saying won't be a wealth saying there won't be a wealth tax under the labour party. >> part of, i >> this is all part of, i suppose, labour's decontaminate strategy the strategy when it comes to the economy. the economy has been their achilles heel. not their achilles heel. they've not been it and in this been trusted on it and in this kind quite ranging kind of quite wide ranging interview in a notable in the telegraph to sort of appeal to sort of middle class tory voters, she rules out a so—called wealth tax mansion tax also rules any more tax also rules out any more tax hikes. so she's going to go for growth. so yeah, an interesting ploy by growth. so yeah, an interesting ploy by her. if you speak to tories, they say that famous liam byrne note there's no money left. still comes up in focus groups . so left. still comes up in focus groups. so you'll left. still comes up in focus groups . so you'll actually groups. so you'll actually i think you'll probably see the tories the tories trying to hammer the brews one labour. brews on that one from labour. >> despite the high >> so despite the high inflation, the united kingdom has, relatively low has, despite our relatively low growth, still sees the growth, labour still sees the economy as a bit of a vulnerability perhaps? yeah, a bit like how the nhs is a
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vulnerability for tories, think. >> yeah. for labour it is clearly a problem. interesting. this idea of so—called mansion this idea of a so—called mansion wealth we pulled this in wealth tax. we pulled this in 2015 and pressed him, which is a very labour seat, which very safe labour seat, which interestingly i think has the highest level home ownership highest level of home ownership in 90, 95. there in the country. 90, 95. there you anniversary labour voters were against. i think this is where labour have been missing a trick. most people are aspiration people. they're not pro taxes . so yeah, interesting pro taxes. so yeah, interesting positioning . i mean the question positioning. i mean the question for the tories now is force for the tories now is to force labour into positions in labour into more positions in the run up to the election. so far i they've managed to far i think they've managed to get with not saying too get away with not saying too much, the tories much, just hoping the tories screw up, sort of winning by screw it up, sort of winning by default constructive default with constructive ambiguity to ambiguity being all things to all not saying very all people by not saying very much and i think starmer much at all. and i think starmer is quite untested. think we is quite untested. i think we were just discussing before on air the idea of tv debates air about the idea of tv debates and for once air about the idea of tv debates and tories for once air about the idea of tv debates and tories will for once air about the idea of tv debates and tories will be for once air about the idea of tv debates and tories will be quite»r once air about the idea of tv debates andtories will be quite prorce air about the idea of tv debates andtories will be quite pro tv the tories will be quite pro tv debates is their 20 and 25 points behind in the polls and probably fancy their chances against leader who against the labour leader who so far to be that far doesn't seem to be that agile his feet. agile on his feet.
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>> interesting always. it >> it's interesting always. it seems be that the people sort seems to be that the people sort of behind that most to of behind that have the most to gain the ones agitating for gain are the ones agitating for it those that in and it and those that are in and you've week, haven't you've seen this week, haven't you, the of republican you, with the sort of republican primary elections. >> know, who's by >> you know, trump, who's by clear massive clear the air, massive frontrunner, chose not to do frontrunner, he chose not to do them nothing to them because he's got nothing to gain from it. >> no, it'll be interesting. labour agitating so much for these debates previous years. labour agitating so much for these dethey'll previous years. labour agitating so much for these dethey'll be revious years. labour agitating so much for these dethey'll be rowing years. labour agitating so much for these dethey'll be rowing back. perhaps they'll be rowing back from that's not the from it now. but that's not the only also, theresa only interview. also, theresa may popped up head this may has popped up her head this week sunday times week in the sunday times magazine. what's she been saying ? >> 7. >>i 7- >> i mean, 7_ >> i mean, it's ? >> i mean, it's interesting, isn't it? i think former prime ministers. it's a difficult balancing act in this country once political once you leave the political scene, kind of expected scene, you're kind of expected to leave the limelight . to sort of leave the limelight. and i suppose the question for them when do they them is when do they make interventions? know, interventions? you know, reasonably intervening, reasonably intervening, reasonably . interesting reasonably. interesting interview from theresa may. not someone often commits news, someone who often commits news, but i suppose of the but i suppose one of the standout news as standout news lines, as you said, john actively said, that john bercow actively frustrates her to frustrates amid her efforts to get a brexit deal through parliament. now interesting parliament. now it's interesting , sort has almost pulled , she sort of has almost pulled back her punches against boris
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johnson, who you might expect she has quite a lot to say about not so much to because this not so much to say because this is about her new book that's is all about her new book that's coming out soon. >> it is interesting. she sort of seems to more going after of seems to be more going after bercow than boris. >> interesting. yeah. >> yeah, interesting. yeah. and the biographical. the book is not biographical. i think abuse of power and think it's abuse of power and it's looking at things like hillsborough and the daniel morgan murders. and morgan murders. but yeah, and in this interview, she's not someone known for showing emotion opening she emotion opening up, but she talks about crying outside talks a bit about crying outside number she resigned. number 10 when she resigned. and it's relatively, i think, reflective philosophic . and i reflective philosophic. and i think she says a reasonable amount self—awareness in amount of self—awareness in there well. there as well. >> also an interesting bit about holding trump's and holding donald trump's hand and what happened on that what really happened on that slope. i wonder, will this book sort of be a landmark thing or will it be sort of here today gone tomorrow? how much does what theresa may says now m atter? >> matter? >> i think it does matter. it doesn't feel like this book is about settling scores. but i think she does have the sort of ability to say to break this delicate truce in the party by
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making interventions. to be fair to her, i don't think it's something that she does gratuitously. and she so far has chosen to speak out on issues she cares about. think she cares about. and i think probably recognises has more probably recognises she has more cut through when she's more selective isn't that selective and isn't just that continual from the continual voice sniping from the sidelines that perhaps we saw historically people like edward heath perhaps john heath doing and perhaps john major was very good for major who was very good for a long time, but perhaps intervened some people may say too around the brexit too much around the brexit brexit referendum. >> get now to the minister >> let's get now to the minister for veterans affairs and the member for parliament member of for parliament plymouth view, johnny plymouth moor view, johnny mercer . johnny, you for mercer. johnny, thank you for making time for this making the time for us this morning. i i don't know if you managed to catch any of what our people's panel was saying there, but i was interested in what both david pete were saying both david and pete were saying about the competence of the government. really is this a zombie government that has failed to do things like stopping the boats that's raised taxes ? what is this government taxes? what is this government actually achieving ? actually achieving? >> good morning, tom, and thank you for that. i mean, i did
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catch at the end of it and look, i think i think it's very easy, isn't it, to sort of look at what's gone on. >> and obviously it's been a very difficult time. the conservative party and, you know, we're on our third or fourth prime minister now and look at it in that direction. absolutely and i understand that. and i understand people feeling that. i really do. but there are always two sides to there are always two sides to the story. and actually, you know, i sit here this morning, i think what does this government done?i think what does this government done? i look at people in plymouth who are £3,300 better off on their energy bills because of specific interventions by this government. the long term plan for staffing in the nhs that remains a huge challenge in plymouth. if i look at myspace and what we've done on veterans affairs, for the first affairs, you know, for the first time we've got a dedicated mental health care pathway for veterans country. we're veterans in this country. we're ending veterans homelessness this look, i respect this year. so look, i respect that these views. of course i do. and i think we have to work harder to make people really
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feel those benefits. feel feel those benefits. and feel that is being done. but that stuff is being done. but i don't think , you know, the don't think, you know, the characterisation that we've seen of the government this morning is don't. you is fair. of course i don't. you know, people are more than know, but people are more than entitled their opinions. and entitled to their opinions. and as politicians , we listen to as politicians, we listen to them and then get our nose to them and then get our nose to the grindstone and keep working for the people who elected us. >> of course, the reason why this pertinent this this might be pertinent this morning, perhaps more than other mornings, night we mornings, is that last night we saw scathing attack on saw a pretty scathing attack on the government from one of your colleagues in parliament, from someone you sat around the cabinet table with back under bofis cabinet table with back under boris johnson's government. nadine dorries has not held back. she's called rishi sunak a failing prime minister what are your thoughts on her resignation letter ? well look, nadine said letter? well look, nadine said she was going to resign . she was going to resign. >> i think it's you know, good that she has resigned now and that she has resigned now and that the process in mid beds can continue. look, i'm always very
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sad. i think when these things are played out in public. she's written a very personal letter to the prime minister and, you know, as again , is her right. i know, as again, is her right. i think that , you know, you take think that, you know, you take some aspects in there that i'm familiar with defence spending. she talks about defence spending being cut. i mean, it's just fundamentally not the case. and you when started in you know, when i started in parliament £38 billion a year is just £50 billion a year. just under £50 billion a year. now minister, when he now this prime minister, when he was , actually signed was chancellor, actually signed off biggest settlement for off the biggest settlement for defence end of the defence since the end of the cold so know, cold war. so you know, recollections may vary on some cold war. so you know, re
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it feels, feels like there's been regression . been regression. >> so i think when it comes to numbers in the army, you know, and in the military, you know, it's all about lethality , isn't it's all about lethality, isn't it? in the military, the military is a very clear job. and the truth is now that we have more capability and more ability to project force at reach further around the globe with better technology and better equipment than we've ever had before. know , i've had before. and, you know, i've been very clear and straight down the line, whether i'm in government or out of government and issues. and where we are on the issues. and the fact of the and that is the fact of the matter. you cannot the matter. you cannot judge the military simply numbers and military simply on numbers and you need to say we've reduced spending is simply not the case. and you know, we have to keep pace with the changing nature of warfare actually meet those warfare and actually meet those threats. nadine is threats. yes, but nadine is entitled to her view. you know, i think it's very sad when these things play out in public. she's written a very personal letter to the prime minister that didn't i didn't really get all the way through because it went on for quite a while . but i
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on for quite a while. but i think we just you know, it is what it is. i think we need to move forward. we need to get a new candidate into mid—bedfordshire. and i think we can run a campaign. and can run a good campaign. and things slowly beginning to things are slowly beginning to turn around just lastly and very briefly on area , will briefly on this area, will parliament poorer for not parliament be poorer for not having nadine dorries there? >> you miss her presence >> will you miss her presence there personally ? there personally? >> look, i think historically nadine has added a real yeah, a real value to parliament and you know , i value all of my know, i value all of my colleagues and their stories and their backgrounds that they represent, absolutely. >> but you know, no one's bigger than no one's i mean, you're talking to a guy who's been sacked from government twice. right? one's bigger than right? and no one's bigger than the party. you know, the party is there in the national interest. is there to deliver for the people of britain who go out and vote for it at general elections. and of course, from time to time, everybody will feel unhappy with what has happened. now, i think , you happened. now, i think, you know, it's regrettable that
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nadine's gone down the sort of personal route , um, which personal route, um, which is, you know , but that is her right. you know, but that is her right. she's been a conservative mp for some um, she's resigned some time. um, she's resigned now. she said she would resign . now. she said she would resign. we're have we're going to have a by—election mid bedfordshire by—election in mid bedfordshire . everyone's kind of . i think everyone's kind of tired coals tired of raking over the coals of boris johnson of that boris johnson premiership. think it was an premiership. i think it was an extremely difficult time for many of us and we just need to get on with the pitch as it currently is now and deliver for people in the uk who expect us to show show that delivery by the time of the next election . the time of the next election. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest news weather forecast . latest news weather forecast. i'm craig snell. we're looking
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ahead to the new week. for most of us, it's going to stay changeable. some further spells of sunshine, but also some further rain at times. so as we end sunday, we've got this weak weather front which will gradually its way gradually spread its way a little eastwards. little bit further eastwards. a ridge pressure trying to ridge of high pressure trying to build monday. it may build in from monday. it may well just settle things down briefly. but as we end sunday, you see weather you can just see that weather front just gradually working you can just see that weather fronteastwards. ially working you can just see that weather fronteastwards. rain norking you can just see that weather fronteastwards. rain very ng you can just see that weather fronteastwards. rain very patchy. way eastwards. rain very patchy. and plenty and either side we'll see plenty of spells and under the of clear spells and under the clear skies, we may just see some patchy mist and fog for most and cities, however, most towns and cities, however, temperatures comfortably most towns and cities, however, te|doubleires comfortably most towns and cities, however, te|double figures comfortably most towns and cities, however, te|double figures . comfortably most towns and cities, however, te|double figures . so :omfortably most towns and cities, however, te|double figures . so as1fortably most towns and cities, however, te|double figures . so as we tably in double figures. so as we start monday, a bank holiday for most of us, a bright start for a lot of us actually. still this area of cloud across central areas and that will just spread its way bit further its way a little bit further eastwards. and as into the eastwards. and as we go into the afternoon, actually parts afternoon, actually many parts seeing some cloud around and that will be thick enough that cloud will be thick enough in produce some in places to produce some showers, focussed across in places to produce some showers scotland ocussed across in places to produce some showers scotland and sed across in places to produce some showers scotland and northerns western scotland and northern ireland. and for most it's a warmer feeling day could see highs reaching around 2122 down towards the south eastern corner
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into tuesday, a very similar day . a lot of dry weather around, but there will be showers. but there will be some showers. this line of showers will just gradually spread its way a little bit further southwards as we go through the course the we go through the course of the day. then later some day. and then later on, some blustery showers into blustery showers working into the far northwest scotland the far northwest of scotland wednesday, but wednesday, similar still, but then on thursday, we could see a longer spell of rain arriving from the west throughout the day i >> -- >> that 5mm >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news
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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. but let's move on now because, of course, it's not just foreign affairs, but also rather more parochial ones that have hit the papers this morning. >> of course, the ulez zone in the coming week will be extended
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to outer london. and i'm delighted to be joined by one man who has been resolute in his opposition to this, howard cox is the reform party's candidate for the mayor of london and howard, thank you for joining us this morning on the program . this morning on the program. first of all, miles , viewers of first of all, miles, viewers of gb news and quite a few people across the country will know who you are, know the campaigns that you are, know the campaigns that you have run in to people who don't know you , who are you and don't know you, who are you and why you running to be mayor why are you running to be mayor of a very good of london? it's a very good question, tom. >> and sometimes don't know >> and sometimes i don't know what i answer that. on what the i can't answer that. on a though, what's a serious note, though, what's happened got million happened is i've got 1.7 million supporters campaign called supporters in a campaign called fairfield, you're fairfield, uk, which you're fully of . and we managed fully aware of. and we managed to duty frozen for 13 to get fuel duty frozen for 13 years. in fact, it actually went down six cent in that time. so i'm quite proud of that. otherwise drivers will be paying something £0.80 at the something like £0.80 more at the pumps and petrol. so pumps for diesel and petrol. so i as though i've actually i feel as though i've actually been quite successful. i've worked closely with mps worked very closely with mps right , including people right across, including people like mp who was mr like robert halfon mp who was mr fairfield, in parliament. and
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fairfield, uk in parliament. and what's really happened in the last year is that with the this ulez star tax, as i call it, people have approached me and said simply this will you stand against this man ? and i said, against this man? and i said, no. 2 or 3 times, but i was approached by richard tice of the reform party and he convinced me and i have to say to you, for 50 years of my life, i'm 68 years of age, 50 years i voted tory, but i'm afraid i'm not voting tory this time because they've moved away and they've allowed drivers to be. there's so many driver there's so many anti driver policies led sadiq khan in policies led by sadiq khan in london, an absolutely demonstrable , unfairly. what's demonstrable, unfairly. what's the difference between you and the difference between you and the conservative candidate in this mayoral election? >> susan hall? she's been on this programme. she's been under the same sort of scrutiny that you are now. why should someone vote for you rather than her if they're anti ulez? doesn't that split the vote? >> yes, it probably will split the and i'd be happy to the vote and i'd be happy to offer susan hall, deputy mayorship. it's no problem with that whatsoever . seriously,
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that whatsoever. but seriously, the important thing is that i will be getting rid of all ulez, not just the extension. the ulez which goes to the north and south circular and the central ulez. done its job, we ulez. if it's done its job, we don't need it more . london don't need it any more. london emissions rocketed emissions have rocketed downwards and we got to recognise that there's no point in hitting people more in the pocket and that's what this, this government is doing. and also what sadiq khan is doing. and susan hall's only going to be stopping. in as we be stopping. in fact, as we stand today. before you ulez coming extension, coming out on tuesday susan to leave tuesday, susan is going to leave things alone. i'm going get things alone. i'm going to get rid low traffic 20 rid of low traffic networks, 20 mile zones, all those mile an hour zones, all those sorts of things. i'm sorry to say, it's cyclists are listening to this. i'm to going get rid of some the excessive huge cycle some of the excessive huge cycle lanes, you're to get lanes, too. you're going to get rid some cycle lanes. rid of some cycle lanes. >> you to going not build >> are you to going not build any cycle lanes? this any new cycle lanes? is this going car centric city? >> it's going to be what we need to do is to get this city, as we say, motoring. but moving again. one of the problems we have, we've huge congestion
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we've got huge congestion cycling i want encourage cycling is i want to encourage i've no problem that cycling is i want to encourage i've that. problem that cycling is i want to encourage i've that. butlem that cycling is i want to encourage i've that. but lam that cycling is i want to encourage i've that. but i think that cycling is i want to encourage i've that. but i think it's1at about that. but i think it's gone over the top. there's too much towards cycling and much pushing towards cycling and away motorists and away from the motorists and particularly the commercial aspect know, aspect of the driving, you know, white men , you know, we've white van men, you know, we've got they're got the sole traders, they're being in this being hit hardest in this situation and hgv drivers, they are being penalised. we are being penalised. and what we need is have some way of need to do is have some way of incentivising clean fuel technology that everyone will benefit. >> now , on our people's panel >> now, on our people's panel a little bit earlier in the programme, you might have seen that linda, of the members that linda, one of the members of panel been at of the panel had been looking at your prospectus . yes. her your policy prospectus. yes. her daughter lives in london and she was thinking not just, of course, about ulez, but about the safety issues in our capital city. how would you make london safer ? safer? >> yes, i want people to be aware i'm not a one trick pony. it's not for just aware i'm not a one trick pony. it's not forjust motorists, it's not for just motorists, etcetera. i couldn't agree more. ihave etcetera. i couldn't agree more. i have a daughter who's 31 years of lives too. london and of age, lives in too. london and she she's subjected to the same problems there's problems any one time. there's only bobbies on the beat. there's only about 5% to 10% actually walking streets of actually walking the streets of london. and that's 90% that
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aren't. and yet we've got bobbies that many of bobbies that many amount of bobbies. i'm going to triple bobbies. now i'm going to triple the number of bobbies, which essentially the number of bobbies, which essentia would you that? >> how would you fund that? >> how would you fund that? >> that's good question. >> well, that's a good question. and one of the things is, and but one of the things is, obviously, got to look at obviously, i've got to look at what deficit i'm what the black hole deficit i'm going inherit from. it's going to inherit from. it's huge. got a £20 billion huge. she's got a £20 billion budget, but single budget, but every single policeman is saying to policeman i talk to is saying to you, you've only to get us you, you've only got to get us away from behind desk away from behind the desk and we'll come out. it's not going to be a huge expenditure, but one of the bigger initiatives to be a huge expenditure, but one of tisuggestinintiatives to be a huge expenditure, but one of tisuggesting isatives to be a huge expenditure, but one of tisuggesting is thats to be a huge expenditure, but one of tisuggesting is that we that i'm suggesting is that we need help with the safety need to help with the safety aspect this is to create aspect of this is to create pubuc aspect of this is to create public police access points in 24 outlets like 24 hour outlets like supermarkets , mcdonald's and supermarkets, mcdonald's and places which will be places like that, which will be booths policemen are booths where policemen are manned and i can manned. and hopefully i can convince tesco's and people like that actually it because that to actually fund it because it's for them because it's good for them because it's going to stop shoplifting but be places people to go feel places for people to go to feel safer and hopefully deter a crooks. but the other thing which is very interesting indeed, five g broadband is very bad in greater london. so people
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we need to get that really up and running really much more effective because then someone flushing their phone can get to the police and get to help quickly as well. it's those sorts of things i'm looking at. >> some people listening might think a very effective think you're a very effective campaigner against higher taxation. campaigned taxation. you've campaigned very successfully about fuel successfully about keeping fuel duty down and here ulez many people would describe it as a sort of stealth tax or perhaps less stealthy of a tax, a revenue raising mechanism anyway. and if you're getting rid of revenue raising mechanisms, but want to explore and the size of the police force and the size of the police force and want to spend money on getting 5g to more areas , how do getting 5g to more areas, how do you raise the money? >> well, you just said something about expand the police force. no, i'm talking about getting those people stuck the those people stuck behind the desks, monitoring desks, you know, monitoring tweets like that, tweets and things like that, instead going out walking the streets, making people feel, hey, safe. i can walk hey, i feel safe. i can walk down the street. so there is the money, revenue raising an money, revenue raising is an important to ask, but money, revenue raising is an impo we it to ask, but money, revenue raising is an impo we should to ask, but money, revenue raising is an impo we should be to ask, but money, revenue raising is an impo we should be looking but what we should be looking redeploying . redeploying police. >> to get onto the
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>> i want to get onto the notting of notting hill carnival, of course, happening weekend . course, happening this weekend. your conservative opponent has said that the notting hill carnival police officers dread it. it's unsafe. it perhaps should be moved . what's your should be moved. what's your thoughts on that? >> i have to i'm not >> well, i have to say, i'm not trying avoid the answering trying to avoid the answering that no that question. i have no feelings really about that. i mean, a carnival, which mean, it's a carnival, which is ever i've been around on ever since i've been around on this has been there. it's this planet has been there. it's been and most of the time it's been and most of the time it's been very successful. all it is sometimes overtaken some bad sometimes overtaken by some bad people worse. people who make it worse. and there's that happen. but there's things that happen. but i'm susan hall that i'm not like susan hall that i think, police think, you know, the police dread they're doing their job. >> interestingly, ken livingstone wants suggested moving as well. so moving that carnival as well. so perhaps, perhaps there's some greater , i don't know, party greater, i don't know, party intraparty connections there. but i do want to move on to something that we've done with all of the mayoral candidates who've been on this show. you might have been expecting it. our quickfire . yes, no question our quickfire. yes, no question is. so please try to answer in just yes or no. we'll start with more stop and search by the
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police. yes should the two child cap on benefits be lifted? no no. should the uk leave the echr? yes should we bring back the death penalty ? no should the the death penalty? no should the circle line be a circle ? circle line be a circle? >> that's what a question, tom. >> that's what a question, tom. >> of all the ones to stump you, i didn't think it would be that one. well, no. >> yes. >> yes. is >> yes. is the >> yes. is the climate >> yes. is the climate change agenda a hoax? yes is net zero. should that be happening ? no. is should that be happening? no. is climate change itself a hoax ? climate change itself a hoax? >> no. climate change is not a hoax. i can't say yes or no to that because i don't think what my point in this is. i don't think it's a crisis. but we do need to actually involve ourselves and actually helping in terms of setting up anti—pollution measures. but don't motorists. don't blame the motorists. >> i'm going to view >> every time i'm going to view a for yes or no on that a fail for yes or no on that question. should abortion laws be liberal the united be less liberal in the united kingdom ? yes should the state
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kingdom? yes should the state provide universal free school meals for every child? no do you support gay marriage ? yes. are support gay marriage? yes. are vigilantes right to attack ulez cameras? no was boris johnson a good mayor of london? yes was bofis good mayor of london? yes was boris johnson a good prime minister no. and was the last united states presidential election legitimate ? no would election legitimate? no would donald trump make a good president again ? president again? >> thanks, for tom, that one. can i get a can i sit on a fence on that one? >> you can sit on the fence on that. and is joe biden a legitimate us president based on the previous answer? >> i don't think he is no. >> i don't think he is no. >> and finally, should the top rate of tax 45% be abolished? yes howard cox, you have been admirably candid on many of those questions. thank you so much for joining those questions. thank you so much forjoining us here on gb news. and of course, we will be trying to submit all of the challenges to the london mayoralty to the same sort of
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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. this . this. >> welcome back to the camilla tominey show. my name is tom harwood and we're not just talking about what's going on in the united kingdom today, but also overseas because is also overseas because this is something that will have implications for the wider to world the machinations in united states politics and indeed the latest indictment and mugshot shot of former president donald trump. let's speak now to lanny davis, the former special counsel to president bill clinton. and the lawyer represents donald trump's former lawyer, michael cohen, in the stormy daniels case. lanny,
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thank you so much for making the time for us this morning. rather earlier for you in new york. so thank you for getting up for us. i suppose, first of all, you, of course, represent did bill clinton in a number of sticky situations when he was president? how does donald trump's trials and tribulations compare to some of the legal difficult 80s of bill clinton ? difficult 80s of bill clinton? so there's obviously some dispute about this statement. >> but bill clinton faced a political situation involving a relationship with a young woman. there was never anything illegal. he was accused of committing perjury. so that was a legal charge. but he actually told the truth and he testified before the grand jury. unlike donald trump, who refused grand jury donald trump, who refused grand jury is set up as a jury to determine whether someone should be indicted. he not only agreed to testify, he testified on national and international live
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television and told the truth about the relationship, which, of course, was very embarrassing for him and his family. of course, was very embarrassing for him and his family . so it for him and his family. so it wasn't a legal issue. it was a political issue. this is a legal issue. four separate grand juries picked from citizenry similar to great britain's system voted after hearing evidence for indictment , meaning evidence for indictment, meaning probable cause that crimes have been committed . so they're been committed. so they're vastly different situations . vastly different situations. >> now, of course, you're involved in the stormy daniels case in new york, so perhaps we won't go into the details there . but why is it that some people say that the george raja indictment is the most politically dangerous for donald trump ? trump? >> well, the georgia indictment is a brilliant use of a statute passed many years ago to capture and convict organised crime families where you couldn't get individuals because they were all sworn to silence . but you all sworn to silence. but you could allege an enterprise , a
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could allege an enterprise, a conspiracy, and using that device called a rico racket steering influence, corrupt, organised act. the organised crime families in new york were convicted by none other than rudy giuliani , who is now being rudy giuliani, who is now being indicted. it's kind of ironic. so that's the criminal statute that the georgia prosecutor has utilised. and just to remind you, a british viewers, donald trump claims to be running for president so he can get elected and pardon himself. so even if he's convicted, he can pardon himself and he will never have to suffer . that doesn't apply in to suffer. that doesn't apply in the states because we have state governments . that's different governments. that's different from the federal government . he from the federal government. he can't pardon himself from a conviction of a state crime in georgia or the one that i'm involved in in new york. if he's convicted of either of those jurisdictions crimes, he cannot pardon himself. and after he's president , if pardon himself. and after he's president, if he's pardon himself. and after he's president , if he's elected, god president, if he's elected, god forbid, from my perspective, he
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will go to prison, or at least will go to prison, or at least will be convicted if the jury determines that, because he cannot pardon himself . cannot pardon himself. >> it is fascinating to see that as these indictments have sort of piled up as the charges have piled up against donald trump, indeed, as his mugshot has been taken at a county jail, as this has happened amongst republican ones, donald trump's favorability seems to have risen . his poll ratings amongst republics fans seem to have risen clearly , there is a large risen clearly, there is a large proportion of voters in the united states who believe this is nothing more than a political prosecution . prosecution. >> well, first, let's do the math and you'll decide whether the word large is inaccurate . the word large is inaccurate. word in the united states, if you ask any sample of the population , about 30% of the population, about 30% of the population, about 30% of the population of america will say they're republicans. about 30% will say they're democrats. interestingly, they're about
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equal interestingly, they're about equal. and the rest, interestingly, they're about equal. and the rest , about 40, equal. and the rest, about 40, call themselves independent pendants. they're the swing voters that really determine the general election for president. so if you take the 30% that identify themselves as republicans, then polls will show 90% will stay with trump. no matter what. now, do the math, 90 times 30 is 27% of america. and that leaves 63% not voting for trump. so the large is only large as part of a minority. and you have the same issue in great britain where you have parties and percentages , have parties and percentages, but they don't represent the general election fit who votes for members of parliament. so that's really the difference in america . in two, he still is got america. in two, he still is got a ceiling and he's not likely to capture those swing voters , capture those swing voters, those independents, if he's indicted. and he does what he does, which is to play with the truth. and that mugshot is not
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exactly a mugshot that will win swing voters . it will win that swing voters. it will win that 27% hard republican base, but not much beyond that. >> but why is it that that's 27% that those who identify with the republican party, who have registered as republicans ? why registered as republicans? why is it that they are so convinced that this is a politico mole persecution, that these are political decisions, that perhaps particularly most most notably in new york, this is dredging stuff up from the past to go after a political opponent in their view. >> so forgive my disclosed bias . i'm the lawyer for michael cohen who worked for donald trump for ten years. he went to prison pleading to what you just and i'm not criticising you, you're reflecting american journalism , described as journalism, described as a political prosecution involving a star. so it's about sex and it's really not serious. let's remember that the federal prosecutors working for donald
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trump in new york, federal prosecutors , the federal prosecutors, the federal government, the federal justice department under donald trump prosecuted michael cohen for exactly the same crime of paying someone to stay silent. so the american people didn't know about the affair. they called that crime a serious danger to democracy. and they sent mr cohen to prison . now, trump cohen to prison. now, trump didn't say that was a political prosecution . cohen was targeted. prosecution. cohen was targeted. the only person prosecuted in this whole organised fashion, and the federal prosecutors working for donald trump. this is a fact in writing in public, said donald trump directed michael cohen to do that crime. so how can it be political for donald trump when he directs michael cohen and he goes to prison for the crime where it's not political? if you say mr trump , you directed somebody to trump, you directed somebody to do a crime before you were president, we're going to prosecute you . prosecute you. >> i suppose some might say that by extension, in going after
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michael cohen was also a political move. but of course, this is all he pled guilty. >> excuse me for interrupting, but he wouldn't even michael cohen wouldn't agree with you. >> he pled guilty because it was a crime. it wasn't political . he a crime. it wasn't political. he paid money to keep somebody quiet, to influence an election . there is a statute in america that says if you do that, if you pay that says if you do that, if you pay someone to stay silent, to influence an election, that's a crime. michael cohen pled guilty . there's nothing political about it. he violated the law and he pled guilty. the really ironic question is that if donald trump, according to his own prosecutors let me repeat that. these are prosecutors working for trump during the trump administration , indicted trump administration, indicted and forced michael cohen to plead guilty if he was directed to do that crime by mr trump. there's nothing political about mr trump being held accountable . that's what the new york case is about now. >> it's a it's a fascinating situation where you have almost two different parallel
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narratives living in the united states . do you think that donald states. do you think that donald trump could actually end up behind bars, could actually be in a prison at the end of this process? >> so let me just answer. >> so let me just answer. >> i know we're running out of time. first of all, thank you for inviting me. i'm an anglophile. i wrote my thesis about winston churchill being right on gallipoli. those of you who are historians will know that most disagree with that most people disagree with that most people disagree with that but i'm a fan that view, but i'm a great fan of the and i say hello to all of the uk and i say hello to all my so first of all, my friends. so first of all, i am not in favour of a former president being put behind bars . i am strongly critical of donald trump, but i believe it's very important in great britain and our system is modelled and denved and our system is modelled and derived from common law in the uk . every person should be held uk. every person should be held to the same standard. whether you're, as we say, over here, no man is above the law. but we mean no person because no woman is above the law. so the principle that he should be held accountable for violating the
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same crime that michael cohen committed when he deletes tape of national security information , our nuclear program he had and took with him . and he didn't took with him. and he didn't hold it in security . and then he hold it in security. and then he deleted the tapes show that that's a crime at least he needs to be tried and held to the same standard. so the principle is no man is above the law. no woman is above the law. but i'm not in favour of putting him in jail. i'm in favour of the principle that we're all the same. whether you are a former president or a citizen . citizen. >> that's a fascinating distinction . not to go in distinction. not to go in prison. presumably some form of house arrest. you'd favour there. but but a really interesting point to raise there. someone so implacably opposed to trump not thinking he should actually end up behind bars. thank you for sharing your thoughts and i hope that well, at least i've done my best to put across challenging points that the republicans in the united saying wrong. that the republicans in the unit h saying wrong. that the republicans in the uniti hope saying wrong. that the republicans in the uniti hope that saying wrong. that the republicans in the uniti hope that we've1g wrong. that the republicans in the uniti hope that we've got/rong. that the republicans in the uniti hope that we've got both and i hope that we've got both sides of the story there. >> thank you very much for
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inviting me. >> good morning all my >> and good morning to all my friends the uk. friends in the uk. >> it's been pleasure. >> lanny, it's been a pleasure. well, up on the show, well, coming up on the show, i'll be speaking a man who i'll be speaking to a man who knows vladimir putin better than most people. his former number two kremlin and the two in the kremlin and the former prime minister of russia, mikhail kashin don't mikhail kashin. don't go anywhere .
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>> welcome back to the camilla tominey show. >> my name is tom harwood and in many ways, we've been saving the best for last. today of course, we've been talking a lot about international affairs. that's what we tend to do over the summer when it comes to the
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british political process. but i'm really delighted to say that we can offer a heavyweight of world affairs today, mikhail kasyanov is the former prime minister of russia. he served from the year 2000 to 2004. mikhail, thank you so much for joining us this morning. first of all, well, i know that you are someone who knew vladimir putin well . well. you have putin well. well. you have obviously not been aligned with vladimir putin for many , many vladimir putin for many, many years. do you fear for your own life ? oh that is the question. life? oh that is the question. >> absolutely easy to answer. for many years . i feel fear. >> absolutely easy to answer. for many years . i feel fear . and for many years. i feel fear. and just last year when putin started this criminal war against ukraine, my criticism appeared to be as a criminal case. and that's why i had to escape as many, many of my collaborators and as many other
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russians who are not supporting mr putin, who condemned just this putin's so—called special operation, but its full scale war against sovereign country. of course, we all have this fear when was the last time you stepped foot in russia ? last as stepped foot in russia? last as i as i mentioned, i left russia last march at the beginning of the of the war full scale war against ukraine. and i am living just outside russia for this year and a half . year and a half. >> it is fascinating because there are very few comparisons that one could draw between you and prigozhin and i wouldn't dream of saying that you are anything like prigozhin apart from perhaps in one respect that vladimir putin does not like you and that he did not like prigozhin then why would prigozhin then why would prigozhin have taken a flight out over the territory of russia when clearly he any any neutral
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observer would think he was a man that putin wanted dead ? man that putin wanted dead? >> there is a huge difference and there is no comparison. huge difference between mere precaution. it's strange that you compare this then it is not comparable at all. i was, of course, in different views and that's why just we didn't walk with putin along only just the first four years and the our vision of the future appeared to be different . i walked for my be different. i walked for my country to build up a democratic state as a european, as a european part with the same values . putin has appeared to be values. putin has appeared to be wanted to bring russia back to soviet union and just what he is doing right now, just creating the same fear among all in the world. so that's the respect for russia only because of its existence, because of the russia can create danger. prigozhin is
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close confidant of mr putin forever , and he is mutiny was forever, and he is mutiny was not against putin. he not to change putin. it was against he wanted to press putin so that putin press officials to provide prigozhin with money, with the arms and just with the legal status till now . now, wagner status till now. now, wagner group is not legal in russia and russia. there is no piece of legislation which could legalise such organisations like wagner group. that's why prigozhin always was a criminal and continue to be a criminal till the end. and he is i would say, pressure on putin was not forgivable by putin. it was clear for me since the first day of this mutiny that prigozhin will not leave long. i didn't expect of course, that he would be killed in such a demonstrative way as putin did, but definitely that was inevitable .
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inevitable. >> and does vladimir putin seem weak for now and if that is the case, is it more likely that russia will go down a more authoritarian path, or is there authoritarian path, or is there a chance that your vision of russia, a more liberal and more democratic and more open society 7 democratic and more open society ? is that a possibility for russia ? russia? >> it is a possibility to see russia in my vision as democratic and prosperous country . but not now . coming country. but not now. coming back to your first part of your question after this prigozhin mutiny . question after this prigozhin mutiny. putin. putin is weaker and he looks and he is being seen as a weaker and putin understands this. that's why he tries he tries to somehow to aggravate just some kind of support in the regions he travelling. although before he didn't travel, travelling to the regions , hugging people and regions, hugging people and trying to be nice and just to demonstrate for the whole for
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the whole country that he is supported and right now, of course, of course the people in so—called ruling elite, they live in atmosphere of total fear because just this demonstrative killing of prigozhin , that is a killing of prigozhin, that is a signal to all of them if they will try to escape , the putin will try to escape, the putin will try to escape, the putin will do same with them either using novichok or simple killing or just using novichok or simple killing orjust aircraft using novichok or simple killing or just aircraft tragedy , or just aircraft tragedy, whatever thing methods that could be chosen, it doesn't matter much but that putin believes that it is strengthening his his rule. but i see he creating risks for his system and in fact, we all waiting success of ukrainian counter offensive operation. although right now there is no i would say the great success. but sooner or later that will happen and sooner or later ukrainian army would achieve the decisive
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advantage on the battlefield and in this case, putin will be weaker, much quicker, and deepen weaker, much quicker, and deeper. but mikhail kasyanov, i'm going to have to leave it there. >> thank you so much for to talking us this morning. but i'm afraid that leads us to the end of the program. my name is bin tom harwood and this is the camilla tominey show . camilla tominey show. >> the temperature's rising boxt solar probe proud sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. i'm craig snell. we're looking ahead to the new week for most of us, it's going to stay changeable. some further spells of sunshine, but also some further rain at times. so as we end sunday, we've got this weak weather front which will gradually spread its way. a little further a
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little bit further eastwards. a ridge pressure trying to ridge of high pressure trying to build monday may well ridge of high pressure trying to buil settle monday may well ridge of high pressure trying to buil settle things 1day may well ridge of high pressure trying to buil settle things down nay well ridge of high pressure trying to buil settle things down briefly.l just settle things down briefly . as end sunday, you . but as we end sunday, you can just that weather just just see that weather front just gradually its way gradually working its way eastwards. rain patchy and eastwards. rain very patchy and either see of either side, we'll see plenty of clear spells. and under the clear spells. and under the clear skies we may just see some patchy and for most patchy mist and fog. for most towns cities. however towns and cities. however temperatures comfortably temperatures staying comfortably in double figures. so as we start monday, a bank holiday for most of us, a bright start for a lot of us, actually, it's still this of cloud across this area of cloud across central areas that will just central areas and that will just spread way a little bit spread its way a little bit further as we go further eastwards. and as we go into afternoon, actually into the afternoon, actually many some cloud many parts seeing some cloud around and cloud will be around and that cloud will be thick in places to thick enough in places to produce showers, mainly produce some showers, mainly focussed across western scotland and ireland. for most and northern ireland. for most it's a warmer feeling day could see around 21, 22 see highs reaching around 21, 22 down towards the south eastern corner into tuesday, a very similar day . a lot of dry similar day. a lot of dry weather around, but there will be some showers. this line of showers will just gradually spread way little bit spread its way a little bit further southwards go further southwards as we go through course day. through the course of the day. and on, some blustery
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and then later on, some blustery showers into far showers working into the far northwest scotland wednesday, northwest of scotland wednesday, similar still, but then on thursday, we could see a longer spell of rain arriving from the west throughout the day , the west throughout the day, the temperatures
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gb news. >> good evening. i'm tatiana sanchez in the newsroom . nadine sanchez in the newsroom. nadine dorries has accused rishi sunak of whipping up a public frenzy against her and says she doesn't have the x factor of a winning prime minister in a blistering resignation letter, the former minister accused mr sunak of demeaning his office by criticising her. she says his government has abandoned concern autism and the 2019 election manifesto , which was published manifesto, which was published before boris johnson , won an 80
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