gb news. >> it's 3 pm. it's patrick christie's. >> it's gb news drag them to the dock. that is the message from our government now to vile killers and violent offenders. however, we've got a campaign to make killers face real justice. now, i'll be telling you why i don't think the latest government announcement goes far enough. w—w—w—what gbnews.com enough. w—w—w—what gb news.com forward enough. w—w—w—what gbnews.com forward slash justice sign our petition, get some change happening. but in other news, let's go over this as well. a machete and zombie knife clamped down. did you know that it's previously been actually previously not been actually technically illegal to own one of these weapons that being of these weapons that are being wielded of london wielded on the streets of london and cities? it's an and other cities? it's an absolute shocker . and other cities? it's an absolute shocker. it's that absolute shocker. it's time that those face real justice. those people face real justice. lawless britain. but talking of lawless, should we actually be telling china where to go? >> our foreign secretary is meeting with the chinese today. rampant abuses. rampant human rights abuses. >> they've also, of course,

mugged the world off with covid and they do pose an existential threat to the west. why are we shaking their hands and pressing the flesh? finally, prince harry has opened up again. a couple of stories rocking around about prince harry today. the invictus games documentary on netflix that has landed. but also he appears to have taken yet another stab at the royal family patrick christys . gb news. patrick christys. gb news. there's a few other stories floating around today. look, do you remember this? i think you should probably. yeah, right. the most controversial kiss in history that quite possibly since romeo and juliet, the most controversial kiss. his mum's gone on hunger strike. >> they're talking about boycotting , playing football forever. >> this spanish team, there's been protests in madrid, but there's another twist to the tale. there is another twist to the tale. yes, i will be telling you what that picture may or may not mean for the future of spanish football. and indeed,

we're women's rights. this is honestly one of the most surreal stories that i have ever covered. so stay tuned. but right now, though, i'm to going whizz you over to your headlines. and then after that, we stuck in with we will get stuck right in with a of big justice stories. a couple of big justice stories. stay tuned . stay tuned. >> patrick, thank you. and good afternoon. this is the latest from the gb news room. the prime minister says those hit by new ulez charges shouldn't expect any more financial assistance from the government. speaking to gb news, rishi sunak said he understands the frustration felt by residents forced to pay a daily charge due to the expansion of the mayor of london's clean air scheme. he also urged the labour party to explain why they think it's right to go ahead with the plan when families are struggling with the rising cost of living . with the rising cost of living. >> this is solely the response ability of the labour party and the labour mayor sadiq khan and keir starmer. it's for them to explain why think this is explain why they think this is the thing do and they

the right thing to do and they should that. i don't think should do that. i don't think it's right priority . see, it's the right priority. see, people made their views people have made their views very and it's up to very clear and now it's up to them explain themselves and them to explain themselves and why this the right why they think this is the right thing do. thing to do. >> judges be given the >> judges will be given the power to order an offender to attend their sentencing hearing under planned by under new legislation planned by the at the ministry the government at the ministry of justice says the law will enable force to be used if necessary . it comes after serial necessary. it comes after serial child killer lucy letby refused to attend her sentencing and hear the testimony of her victims families . hurricane victims families. hurricane idaua victims families. hurricane idalia has made landfall at keaton beach on florida's gulf coast. according to the us national hurricane centre. the storm had intensified to category four, prompting florida's emergency chief to tell residents to drop what you're doing and get to safety. it's now been downgraded to a category three, but remains extremely dangerous . as speaking extremely dangerous. as speaking earlier today , governor ron earlier today, governor ron desantis warned residents not to

underestimate the danger. >> national hurricane centre expects storm surge to reach up to 16ft in some areas of the big bend region . that level of storm bend region. that level of storm surge is life threatening . do surge is life threatening. do not go outside in the midst of this storm. if it's calm, where you are, it may be because you are in the eye of the storm and those conditions will change very, very quickly. so wherever you are now, hunker down. >> easyjet's carrying out three days of repatriation flights after an air traffic control fault left thousands of british tourists stranded abroad. the first from palma and faro are flying into london. gatwick while additional flights will take place tomorrow and friday. the airline is also deploying larger aircraft on key routes to accommodate 700 more people. more than a quarter of a million holidaymakers are thought to have been affected by the disruption . james cleverly has

disruption. james cleverly has become the first foreign secretary to visit china in five years. during the visit, james cleverly held face to face talks with vice president han geng and told broadcasters the uk is clear eyed that china will not change overnight . clear eyed that china will not change overnight. but mr cleverly also said it's important to maintain regular dialogue as we seek to influence the country. the trip has been met with criticism from some tory mps who want a tougher stance against beijing. former tory party leader sir iain duncan smith told us the government need to decide what it wants from china . it wants from china. >> so this is the real problem. what are we going over for? is it more business? is it more trade with them, or is it to tell them that unless they get their act together and stop abusing people using slave laboun abusing people using slave labour, etcetera, then we won't trade with them. but we're not doing any of that. >> met police commissioner sir mark rowley has welcomed government plans to ban zombie style knives, according to the

home office. work is underway to increase the maximum sentence for their importation manufacture , terror, possession manufacture, terror, possession and sale to two years. police will also have greater powers to tackle offenders who use them. sir mark said the weapons are doing awful damage in the caphal doing awful damage in the capital. home sales in the uk are expected to be around a fifth lower this year than last yeah fifth lower this year than last year. property website zoopla found only around a million house sales could be completed . house sales could be completed. that's the lowest total since 2012 and equates to the average household moving once every 23 years. now at least two people have been killed and many injured after a missile and drone attack on the ukrainian . drone attack on the ukrainian. capital russia launched the air assault on key from several directions with ukraine, calling it the most powerful attack since spring. although air defences were able to destroy a number of targets , falling

number of targets, falling debns number of targets, falling debris hit several buildings , debris hit several buildings, injuring a number of people . injuring a number of people. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on digital radio tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to . patrick back to. patrick >> well, very good afternoon, everybody. now today marks a partial victory for victims families , a partial victory for families, a partial victory for common decency and a partial victory for the tens of thousands of people who signed my petition to make sure that killers and other violent offenders face real justice. you can sign that now. w—w—w dot gbnews.com forward slash gb news.com forward slash justice. gbnews.com forward slash justice. but it is not enough yet in case you missed it, the government has said that it is introducing a new law to force criminals to attend their sentencings in court with the offenders facing longer behind bars if they still refuse to sit in the dock. custody officers as well will also have it

reiterated to them that they can use reasonable force to essentially drag them there. all of this sounds decent and it is a step in the right direction. but here's what rishi sunak had to say earlier. >> committed awful >> people have committed awful crimes , somehow to take crimes, somehow are able to take the way out and not the coward's way out and not appearin the coward's way out and not appear in court for their sentencing to and hear the impact that their crimes have had victims families. had on the victims families. i don't think that's right. they shouldn't an easy out. shouldn't be an easy way out. and why going to and that's why we're going to change the law so that courts can compel these offenders to be present sentencing and can compel these offenders to be pr

tariff into the dock to face those victim impact statements and their sentence would be, in my view, to withhold privileges from them in prison if they refuse, like phone calls or use of a tuckshop, etcetera . there of a tuckshop, etcetera. there is also not yet a timetable for this to be brought in. now, i feel it needs to go further. for those facing a whole life tariff. if they do not attend sentencing or victim impact statements , they should have all statements, they should have all prison privileges removed. that's what we kind of signed up to, isn't it? i said at the start of this campaign, in this petition, that i didn't want us to be fobbed off. so sign that petition now. gbnews.com forward slash justice. and make slash justice. and let's make sure killers and violent sure that killers and violent offenders do face real justice. but that's, of course, what i think. vaiews@gbnews.com get signing that petition we'll have a qr code on your screens in a little bit well to make it little bit as well to make it easy for you. can now easy for you. but i can now speak with gb news political editor hope. editor christopher hope. christopher, very christopher, thank you very much. look, it's something, much. so look, it's something, isn't but just just fill us isn't it? but just just fill us in on what we actually know so

far then about this ability to quote drag killers to quote unquote, drag killers to the . the dock. >> well, that's right, patrick. it's been announced today by alex chalk and the prime minister in fact, it's what we disclosed last week on this programme on gb news, what the plan is to for any, any any offender convicted offender who does not agree to come up from from the south to face justice, to face the sentencing by the judge could get two years, added to their sentence. but you correctly say in the case of lucy letby, who brought this whole area into sharp focus last week, she's got multiple life sentences. how will this impact on her at all? of course, life in some times, maybe not in lesbia's case can mean that you are allowed out after a minimum sentence served and that could that could be added to that period. but certainly for the most most serious most heinous, most serious cases, hard to see how this cases, it's hard to see how this would help. i suppose what it does, brings law this does, it brings into law this requirement on judges that they can take this action and that will, i think, put pressure on judges to justify why they're

allowing an offender not to face the victims in the eye. the idea for victims, of course, is to allow the person who prepared to commit the crime against them to hear from those people and look them in the eye as they say. what you've done did this to my family and that's the family or to me. and that's the idea, is to bring justice, to bnng idea, is to bring justice, to bring victims closer to getting closure on what happened to them. that's the idea behind it. but are weaknesses it, but there are weaknesses to it, which you rightly suggest. but there are weaknesses to it, whiyeah,j rightly suggest. but there are weaknesses to it, whiyeah,j rightlythat. est. but there are weaknesses to it, whiyeah,j rightlythat. and >> yeah, exactly that. and i think it wouldn't take too much just to add additional stuff just to add the additional stuff in really, which is about in there, really, which is about the prison privileges and removing them. if somebody who's facing a whole life tariff decides attend. and it is decides not to attend. and it is also on custody officers also relying on custody officers to actually put themselves in harm's way to drag those people to the dock. and this is the other element of it. christopher i didn't quite get because as it currently stands, custody officers can use reasonable force. my concern with this is that we're just being massively

fobbed off by a government on an issue that actually the public really care about . really care about. >> the government is treading a quite a narrow line here because you can if you if you refuse to attend a court, you are literally in contempt of court and you can currently get two more years added to your sentence. there trying to enshrine law, think to enshrine it in law, i think to show people that there's a requirement on judges to justify why they are not saying that people have not attended their court and why they're not taking action force to attend. action to force them to attend. it's trying to give comfort to victims. but i think whether this enough, i mean, this goes far enough, i mean, we've told last it we've been told last week it could mean criminals coming to court handcuffs if they don't court in handcuffs if they don't come upstairs an expert can come in and assess whether why that is and speak to them down in the cells with other other ideas. maybe pipe it in the sentencing down to them into the actual cell. that could happen. the idea of withdrawing privileges is a whole different thing, really. and that hasn't yet been addressed by the government. but this is the first start, i think, in bringing, bringing,

trying offenders trying to hold these offenders to the case of to account. in the case of thomas last year of thomas cashman last year of course, lucy letby last week i >> -- >> yeah, exactly. and look, thank you very much for bringing this to us. as you said, there, it is, of course, a step in the right direction, i think. we right direction, i think. and we need to to keep maintaining need to try to keep maintaining this, is i am this, which is why i am absolutely the drum for absolutely banging the drum for gbnews.com gb news.com forward slash justice. gbnews.com forward slash justice. try to keep this voice being and hold their being heard and just hold their feet fire and make sure feet to the fire and make sure that there is that it happens. but there is another story in another big story in town actually well. and is in actually as well. and that is in relation knife crime. now, relation to knife crime. now, knife crime been the knife crime has been at the forefront really of the news for the last few days, ever since notting carnival. comes notting hill carnival. it comes and it, really? and goes, doesn't it, really? you see a kind of wave of stabbings as well you see a kind of wave of stabbingyou as well you see a kind of wave of stabbingyou know, as well you see a kind of wave of stabbingyou know, city well you see a kind of wave of stabbingyou know, city areas, around, you know, city areas, etcetera. but i think what happenedin etcetera. but i think what happened in notting hill carnival the imagery carnival and some of the imagery that of that well, that came out of that as well, people wielding machetes, wielding these zombie knives actually, was actually, you know, was was a very stark reminder for people of how a problem this is. of how big a problem this is. i believe that i've got anti knife crime campaigner alison cope now whose son joshua was tragically

stabbed to death back in 2013. so obviously deeper sympathies for that. and thank you very much for coming on. now the government is saying today that they are going to massively clamp down on people have clamp down on people who have a machete or a so—called zombie knife with basically no justified calls to have one. i think i would argue that unless you happen to maybe be a tree surgeon, there's probably not much cause for you to have one. what make of this? what do you make of this? >> um, it's illegal to carry a knife . and yet the sentence knife. and yet the sentence saying and the consequences for carrying a knife aren't strict enough, aren't used consistently . and i think this is not too little, too late. >> we're moving in the right direction. >> but it's such a slow pace . >> but it's such a slow pace. >> but it's such a slow pace. >> you know, they brought in the banning of zombie knives in 2016, but they've added , you 2016, but they've added, you know, new things onto that . know, new things onto that. >> but what did it work in 2016? why wasn't it priority then? it's just another thing that isn't actually going to address

the mindset . you know, if zombie the mindset. you know, if zombie knives and machetes weren't available at the weekend , it available at the weekend, it would have been other weapons that were used because it it's such a negative mindset . some such a negative mindset. some people have now that violence is the answer. and what are we actually doing about changing the mindset that is making people pick up those horrendous weapons ? weapons? >> i mean, i'm just having a look at this now. so the maximum sentence for the importation manufacture , acquiring manufacture, acquiring possession and sale of these weapons will be two years, which means one in probably really in reality , unfortunately. so if reality, unfortunately. so if you make yeah. if that yeah. if that and so that really is not a deterrent is it . deterrent is it. >> it might be for some people but at the moment you can get up to four years in prison for carrying a knife. >> but that is a very unusual thing to actually see the majority of offenders will get probation , a warning, a fine.

probation, a warning, a fine. >> so we're not using the sentencing and the consequences that are already in place for, you know, what, whatever we class as a normal knife. so that hasn't stopped knife crime that hasn't stopped knife crime that hasn't reduced knife crime. >> so why is this going to stop people? you know, importing and selling things that are going to profit them ? you know, some profit them? you know, some people will look at that and it's deterrent. but at the moment , we've got many, it's deterrent. but at the moment, we've got many, many young people in the country that feel carrying a weapon is a choice they need to make. and what are we doing about making them safe ? because if they them feel safe? because if they don't pick up zombie knife or don't pick up a zombie knife or they pick machete , they don't pick up a machete, they don't pick up a machete, they go into their they will just go into their kitchen can't kitchen drawer. we can't ban every single kind of weapon in this country , but let's make this country, but let's make sure we're trying to change the mindset of and the problems that we're now facing on almost a daily basis. >> it has to be a mindset thing, because life as far as i can tell, just seems especially cheap, unfortunately at the moment and yeah moment in this country. and yeah , hammered home some , it was hammered home by some of pictures notting

of the pictures from notting hill carnival you see hill carnival where you see people amongst crowds of people . at all with . so not caring at all with a machete, swinging it around . and machete, swinging it around. and all of that happens and i'm having a look, though, at the figures in general and the most recent figures revealed that the number of fatal stabbings in england was at its england and wales was at its highest since records highest level since records began. more than 76 years ago. the office for national statistics said 282 homicides were committed using a knife or a sharp instrument in the year to march 2022, a 19% rise on the previous year, although there were some covid restrictions the previous year from memory. so that might have something to do with it. but alison, can i just ask you, you mentioned about mindset there. would mindset change there. what would your to anyone who's your message be to anyone who's carrying the moment carrying a knife at the moment of clearly there are tens of which clearly there are tens of which clearly there are tens of thousands people in the uk ? >> 7- >> you 7— >> you know, ? >> you know, how is a 7 >> you know, how is a knife going to protect you? it's going to take you away from the people that you love. and that knife is not more important than your families and your loved ones.

what it that's making you what is it that's making you that scared and you deserve to reach out and get the help and support to change that mindset? because ultimately you're going to yes a victim's life to destroy. yes a victim's life and their family. but your own life your own family and life and your own family and i doubt any young person in the uk would prepared to say goodbye would be prepared to say goodbye to and to everything they love. and we're doing a very good job we're not doing a very good job of showing them that we're doing a good job of selling them a very good job of selling them the opposite dream, know, the opposite dream, you know, be reactive, violent, reactive, be violent, be negative. we need to negative. but we just need to make young realise that make young people realise that prison full of happy prison is not full of happy people . it's of people with people. it's full of people with regret and hundreds of victims and victims families left devastated forever because of that choice . that choice. >> yes, alison, i really admire your courage and for you coming on and talking about it and for all the work that you're trying to do to make sure that nobody else, sadly, has to go through what you did. and i really, really appreciate you coming on and talking all our and talking to me, all our viewers listeners, viewers and listeners, for having any time. right, having me any time. all right, alison cope there. who is an anti knife crime campaigner. two

stories about stories at the top there about justice, the justice, essentially. so the first that the government first one is that the government saying that they're do saying that they're going to do more to violent offenders more to get violent offenders and lucy letby, and killers like lucy letby, etcetera, in the dock for their sentencing. the victim sentencing. and the victim impact but then you impact statements. but then you have look the have a little look at the practicalities of that and they 90, practicalities of that and they go, going to go, well, we're going to emphasise officers go, well, we're going to emp they e officers go, well, we're going to emp they can officers go, well, we're going to empthey can use officers go, well, we're going to empthey can use reasonable; that they can use reasonable force. already force. well, that was already a thing. okay, so there's not that much happening we'll say much happening there. we'll say we'll add a couple of years to their what about their sentence. well, what about people a whole life people facing a whole life tariff know that they're tariff who know that they're facing life tariff like facing a whole life tariff like lucy that doesn't lucy letby? well, that doesn't do them, it? do anything for them, does it? they at the knife they have a look at the knife crime stuff. okay. well, we're going now on going to clamp down now on machetes and zombie knives. well, tried to do this well, they've tried to do this about far. and about seven times so far. and the genius idea that as far as i can they've come up with can gather, they've come up with is maximum sentence of is to make a maximum sentence of around years for carrying or around two years for carrying or making or possessing a machete or two or a zombie knife. and two stories there where i can't help but as though maybe we are but feel as though maybe we are being fobbed off by people being a bit fobbed off by people who like they're who want to seem like they're doing but maybe aren't doing something but maybe aren't doing something but maybe aren't doing as people doing as much as most people would and that is why i've

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foreign affairs committee today released a report urging more transparency from our government on our approach to the asian superpower and calls for the government to recognise attacks on hong kong dissidents as part of ccp policy. some like ian duncan smith, have suggested distancing ourselves from china . but is the country simply too big to ignore ? now the emails big to ignore? now the emails are coming in on this. i'll go to the inbox shortly. vaiews@gbnews.com a lot of resentment towards the chinese government in the inbox in front of me now from covid, but also i think generally just ideologically , i'm not sure. ideologically, i'm not sure. well in fact i know china doesn't mean as well, well in fact i know china doesn't mean as well , does it? doesn't mean as well, does it? why are we trying to appease china? tom harwood joins us now, our deputy political editor from , um, downing street. tom thank you very much. why are we trying to appease china? do you not think weak ? well, think it looks weak? well, that's certainly the criticism of senior backbench conservatives like iain duncan smith. >> it's a prime avitli the

criticism of some former cabinet ministers as well. but publicly the government is saying that this is a tricky situation to deal with. of course, the government would never say that this was appeasement . they this was appeasement. they describe it as engagement . and i describe it as engagement. and i suppose there are more than one school. if there is more than one school of thought with regard to how you deal with china, it is, of course, the world's second largest economy, the fourth largest trading partner of the united kingdom. and the question is, how do you grapple with that fact? is it by turning a cold shoulder to this emerging superpower , or is it by emerging superpower, or is it by engaging and i think we've seen previous governments do sort of both . we've seen, of course, the both. we've seen, of course, the so—called golden era where the red carpet was rolled out for xi jinping under the cameron administration. and of course, george osborne brought the country very close to china. and then we saw a much more cold shoulder given by later

governments . of course. liz governments. of course. liz truss, perhaps the most hawkish on china of recent prime ministers. and what we're seeing now from rishi sunak is perhaps a middle path between both of those approach . his saying that those approach. his saying that china is of course an important global player, but that the way to engage with china is to be in the room , is to be in the the room, is to be in the meetings, is to tell the chinese authorities parties what the british position is , not via british position is, not via twitter, not via press releases, but via conversation and sometimes forthright conversation . conversation. >> so i just think we're in a bit of a tricky situation generally at the moment because our european friends don't really want to know us unless they are desperate to have weapons country to weapons for a third country to stop invading as stop russia invading them as a continent. russia, of course, doesn't want know doesn't really want to know us at we're at the moment because we're giving weapons to ukraine. joe biden doesn't know what of biden doesn't know what day of the it is, but he knows the week it is, but he knows that like us that he doesn't really like us and doesn't really like us and china doesn't really like us ehhen and china doesn't really like us either. the saudis are in a little bit of a mess at the

moment, to be honest with their allegiance really allegiance is not really aligning ours. so are we aligning with ours. so are we actually just quite alone . actually just quite alone. >> the cp, tpp , we've just >> the cp, tpp, we've just joined the largest geographical trade area in the global history. we're also , though, of history. we're also, though, of course, chugging our way towards an indian trade deal. that's a very important geopolitical partnership, particularly in the context of the indo pacific , context of the indo pacific, where of course james cleverly is at the moment, but also more than that, i think it's pertinent to view this visit in the context of other visits to in june. the secretary of state , the us secretary of state, antony blinken, did the same trip . he visited beijing and trip. he visited beijing and started those conversations . started those conversations. similarly, germany and france have also gone to beijing in recent months. i think it's very unlikely that james cleverly, the foreign secretary of this country, would have made this trip had the americans had the french and had the germans not

done the same . so i think it done the same. so i think it would be an error to say that we're only doing this because britain has brexited. in fact , britain has brexited. in fact, we're doing this later than other similar countries . other similar countries. >> all right, tom, thank you very much . tom harwood there are very much. tom harwood there are deputy political editor just outside downing street just reacting to james cleverly being in beijing. where are you on this? i'm going to go into the inbox now because i can see the argument for it that says china is massive powerhouse and we is a massive powerhouse and we need friends that can is a massive powerhouse and we neec but friends that can is a massive powerhouse and we neecbut i friends that can is a massive powerhouse and we neecbut i can riends that can is a massive powerhouse and we neecbut i can absolutely can is a massive powerhouse and we neecbut i can absolutely see can get, but i can absolutely see the other side of it, which is that i don't think china means us well. they tried to us that well. they tried to undercut manufacturing undercut our manufacturing at every opportunity. every single opportunity. they are people who are friends with the people who we're with this we're not friends with in this world as well. coronavirus. world as well. the coronavirus. i about you. i will i don't know about you. i will never forgive chinese never forgive the chinese government what did government for what they did there. there's a reason, there. i think there's a reason, in view, why that ripped in my view, why that ripped around the world and that did stem, view, beijing. stem, in my view, from beijing. but loads of people getting in touch. patrick problem touch. patrick the problem is that trying to that we are just trying to appease i think we to appease them. i think we need to be strong our own issues as be strong on our own issues as as as does not affect

as long as it does not affect british interests as peter. but that's the problem, isn't it? that problem really. we that is the problem really. we can strong issues to a can be strong on our issues to a point, but it always affect point, but it will always affect british interests the round british interests in the round with look, i've got with china. but look, i've got loads your way. it's loads more coming your way. it's me, christys on gb me, patrick christys on gb news. i'll be discussing the news that prince apparently appears prince harry apparently appears to another jab the to take yet another jab at the royal family his latest royal family in his latest netflix documentary. i mean, good . this and much, much good grief. this and much, much more you so don't go more to bring you so don't go anywhere. right here's anywhere. but right now, here's your tatiana . patrick. >> thank you very much. it's 3.30. this is the latest from the newsroom. the prime minister says those hit by the new ulez charges shouldn't expect any more financial support from the government. rishi sunak says he understands the frustration felt by residents forced to pay a daily charge . daily charge. >> this is solely the responsibility of the labour party and the labour mayor sadiq khan and keir starmer. it's for them to explain why they think this is the right thing to do

and they should do that. i don't think it's the right priority. people have made their views very clear now it's up to very clear and now it's up to them themselves and them to explain themselves and why this is right why they think this is the right thing do. why they think this is the right thirjudges». why they think this is the right thirjudges will be given the >> judges will be given the power order an offender to power to order an offender to attend their sentencing hearing under new legislation planned by the the ministry of the government. the ministry of justice enable justice says the law will enable force be if necessary . force to be used if necessary. hurricane idalia has made landfall on florida's gulf coast, but the storm had intensified to category four, prompting florida's emergency chief to tell residents to drop what you're doing and get to safety . it's now been downgraded safety. it's now been downgraded to category two, but remains extremely dangerous . you can get extremely dangerous. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . i'm direct bullion sponsors , . i'm direct bullion sponsors, the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment .

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friday. so these are your maximum temperatures. as i say, some clouds, some sunshine, but also some heavy downpours to watch for. by by. watch out for. by by. >> looks like things are heating up. boxed boilers are proud sponsors of weather on gb news . news >> prince harry's new netflix documentary, heart of invictus has been released today. the documentary follows six athletes competing in the 2022 invictus games . should we have a look at games. should we have a look at the trailer? >> it is here at the invictus games that you realise whatever you carry, it was the springboard that propelled you to the next level . to the next level. >> ah, there we go. right now in the studio with me is our royal correspondent, cameron walker. a couple of different things to go at here. firstly is it true that we made you sit through five

hours of this documentary? >> yes, but you can watch it one and half times. the speed on and a half times. the speed on netflix. wasn't exactly netflix. so it wasn't exactly five but yes, have now five hours. but yes, i have now watched all of it. >> and everything's all right. >> everything's all right. i, i survived. yeah. very well made you that we sent you remember that time we sent you remember that time we sent you cinema to watch the you to a cinema to watch the other netflix documentary? yeah joys. was last joys. yes. so that was last yean joys. yes. so that was last year, actually. and funny you mentioned that it's a big contrast because, course, contrast because, of course, last it was six part last year it was six part documentary documenting harry meghan's , you know, meghan's leap, you know, departure as working members of the royal family criticised lots of big allegations against members of his own family. in contrast to this documentary that's been released today, which is very much prince harry controlling the narrative. but but putting the spotlight off of it , taking the spotlight off of it, taking the spotlight off of him putting it onto wounded him and putting it onto wounded veterans . yeah. veterans. yeah. >> and so this is kind of what he does best. okay. this is the prince that genuinely, prince harry that genuinely, i think really does think everybody really does love, which is when he's doing charity for things like charity work for things like wellchild, maybe wellchild, when he's maybe out in when he's the in africa or when he's doing the invictus games and

invictus games stuff. and crucially, of that to crucially, a lot of that is to do with when he's on his own as well, i think it's fair to say. but he has also caused a little bit controversy. couldn't bit of controversy. he couldn't resist a pop at resist having a bit of a pop at the royals, could he? >> he couldn't. well, >> no, he couldn't. well, subtly, yes. so he talked about the trauma he experienced when his when he was 12. his mother died when he was 12. and subsequent help. and the subsequent lack of help. he royal family he says, from the royal family and institution to deal with and the institution to deal with that grief. and also talks about coming afghanistan on coming back from afghanistan on leaving army and still being leaving the army and still being a working royal and still not having any help to the point where he was curled up on the ball in a foetal position before he decided to get therapy. but he decided to get therapy. but he criticise the he does criticise the institution, for not institution, perhaps for not giving support. he also giving him support. he also criticises patrick, the british media. no, no , no. media. no, no, no. >> surely not. i mean, was anyone in the british media ever done to prince harry? what does he say about about about me, the media. >> so he talks about having to be pulled out of afghanistan in 2008 because an australian publication broke the embargo. there was a big secret what

known secret in the media that we're not going to tell everybody that prince harry's on the for obvious the front line for obvious safety but has to be safety reasons, but he has to be pulled early because an pulled out early because an australian broke australian publication broke that then australian publication broke that on then australian publication broke that on to then australian publication broke that on to criticise then australian publication broke that on to criticise the then australian publication broke that on to criticise the median goes on to criticise the media for instead of focusing on the wounded veterans which were flying back with him to the uk, they focussed on him having to be as a prince, having to be pulled out of afghanistan and he be as a prince, having to be pullethat's of afghanistan and he be as a prince, having to be pullethat's whatjhanistan and he be as a prince, having to be pullethat's what inspired| and he be as a prince, having to be pullethat's what inspired thed he says that's what inspired the invictus actually for him invictus games. actually for him trying rehabilitate these trying to rehabilitate these veterans to give them a purpose in life again. so it was mainly about that, to be honest, rather than anything else. but there were a few small blips, 20, prince harry, 80% veterans and a tiny smattering of meghan in there well. tiny smattering of meghan in the okay, vell. tiny smattering of meghan in the okay, well, talk to me >> okay, well, talk to me a little bit about the meghan stuff. >> yeah, well, she's hardly in it. there's not much to say. she's following prince harry around supporting around very much in a supporting role couple these public role on a couple of these public engagements, seen engagements, which we've seen over year or so. over the last year or so. anything says is very much, anything she says is very much, you off the cuff, off, you you know, off the cuff, off, you know, off. what am i trying to say, fly on wall remarks. say, fly on the wall remarks. yeah. and she does not part

yeah. and she does not take part in interview in a sit down interview whatsoever. part in whatsoever. harry takes part in a dunng whatsoever. harry takes part in a during this five part a couple during this five part documentary. but yeah, it's strange. very much was strange. it very much was harry's us documentary. he exact produced it. it is his baby , as produced it. it is his baby, as it were, in terms of a documentary . it was it were, in terms of a documentary. it was his it were, in terms of a documentary . it was his stuff. documentary. it was his stuff. >> well, that is interesting, actually. he's actually actually. so he's actually executively this executively produced this documentary. then for netflix? yeah, he has . documentary. then for netflix? yeah, he has. but there are actually some quite inspiring stories you were stories in there that you were just mentioning me little just mentioning to me a little bit air well about some bit off air as well about some of the characters. >> yeah. so it focuses on six competitors from all around the world. this documentary was filmed course of around filmed over the course of around a year started, before a year before it started, before the of ukraine by the invasion of ukraine by russia . and it follows russia. and it follows a ukrainian army medic who before the invasion was going to take part in the games. and actually, unfortunately, during the course of the filming is captured by russia and is now being used by russia and is now being used by russia in propaganda videos . russia in propaganda videos. there was also another very inspiring story of a the british team gb rugby coach who has a heart attack and literally dies

for 27 minutes before he goes into recess and the doctors save him. his wife had to give him cpr. so it's all these inspirational stories which are coming out from this documentary . and to be honest, from watching the five hours, if it wasn't my job to be a royal correspondent, the takeaway would be those six veterans. rather, that's a good thing. >> you know, i honestly really do. i think that should be where the is. i think even the focus is. and i think even prince harry maybe so prince harry maybe is not so close minded he couldn't close minded that he couldn't recognise that, or at least somebody at netflix maybe had a word that. cameraman word with him on that. cameraman thank very great thank you very, very much. great to you on the show as ever. to have you on the show as ever. cameron walker, there are royal correspondent, just correspondent, right. i'm just going delve the inbox going to delve into the inbox quickly before i tell what quickly before i tell you what else thank else i've got coming up. thank you very much, everybody who's been getting lots of you very much, everybody who's been about g lots of you very much, everybody who's been about china lots of you very much, everybody who's been about china for lots of you very much, everybody who's been about china for [the of stuff about china for in the inbox but also the main inbox as well, but also the main thing has been about knife crime. so i let in this show with two stories. first one with two stories. the first one is be about the is going to be about the government at least claiming that to that they are going to essentially do more to get

violent and killers violent offenders and killers dragged dock so they dragged to the dock so that they can their sentence ing and can face their sentence ing and also hear the victim impact statements. look statements. but when you look at the of that, they're the small print of that, they're not really actually going to do much already much more than what's already on the they're to say, the table. they're going to say, well, couple of years to well, add a couple of years to their sentence. well, fine, but what they're serving a whole what if they're serving a whole life prison life tariff? they say prison officers can reasonable officers can use reasonable force. already say force. well, they already say that, but sometimes, understandably, prison officers, custody officers don't want to overstep we are overstep that mark. so we are holding government's feet to holding the government's feet to the with campaign here. the fire with a campaign here. you hold phone over you can hold your phone over that your screen. go that qr code on your screen. go to forward slash to gbnews.com forward slash justice. we want is for justice. what we want is for them to either take privileges away people facing whole away from people facing a whole life tariff they don't come life tariff if they don't come to we also want the to the dock. we also want the government a fast and government to put a fast and firm timeline on when are firm timeline on when they are going to actually be doing this legislation because at the minute they're not even put a time frame on that, peter says. we too soft on knife crime . we are too soft on knife crime. anyone carrying a knife in pubuc anyone carrying a knife in public down to the age of ten should be detained overnight in the cells. this might make the youngsters think again because

that's the other thing, peter, isn't at moment, which isn't it? at the moment, which isn't it? at the moment, which is the maximum is that supposedly the maximum sentence get for sentence that you get for carrying even making carrying or even making a machete or a zombie knife is two years, which is not a deterrent because that's the max. so you're probably only get one if that, frankly. so yes, more needs to be done. but look, the latest twist in scandal latest twist in the scandal rocking the football world, all right. so jenni hermoso laughing at the kiss of the spanish president who is now facing calls to resign his mum's gone on hunger strike. so supposedly a load of other people are on strike as well about all of this. what do you think? okay. do you think this changes everything? in everything? the latest twist in the is one of the the tale of what is one of the most bonkers stories i've ever covered. patrick christys gb

& co weeknights from . six & co weeknights from. six >> it's 345. it's patrick christys on gb news on tv and onune christys on gb news on tv and online and on radio as well, actually. now scientists have poured cold beer on the existence of so—called beer goggles as the notion that alcohol makes people appear better looking, which is bad news for anyone who doesn't look like brad pitt. i thought that was maybe all i had going for me. but despite anecdotal evidence for the existence of beer goggles, researchers at the stanford prevention research centre in palo alto, california , could not link being drunk to physical attraction . they did, physical attraction. they did, however, find that alcohol intoxication may arm you with the liquid courage to approach

people who are attracted to you and you are attracted to them. well, let's get the reaction now of a man who needs no dutch courage to talk to people, of course, that he fancies, but also, indeed, i don't have to have any amount of alcohol to find this man deeply sexually attractive . it is a comedian and attractive. it is a comedian and headliners, panellist louis schaefer. louis, how are you ? schaefer. louis, how are you? >> i'm fine, patrick. you've become so good looking in your later years. >> thank you very much. yeah. you must be. you must be drunk. so there is no evidence, apparently, for alcohol increasing people's attractiveness to another person. there is no such thing as beer goggles . as beer goggles. >> well, it's an interesting it's interesting because i think i mean , what this story is, is i mean, what this story is, is that people is that they're saying that alcohol doesn't make you attractive, but it does increase your or your reckless behaviour to actually go up to a pretty girl or a handsome guy, depending. and then go and go

for it. and think people have known that for not think they've known that for not think they've known that for years as i think this study almost actually means nothing does it? >> it basically means if you get drunk, you will not actually physically think that somebody is better looking than they are . will caring about . you will stop caring about what look like you will what they look like and you will try sleep with them anyway. try to sleep with them anyway. >> . it's like it's like >> exactly. it's like it's like going home and walking past the kebab shop and ordering a huge bag . you know, you bag of chips. you know, you shouldn't be doing it, but you do it anyway . yeah. do it anyway. yeah. >> i've asked you not to refer to me as that, but. but yes, but it's so true. isn't it though, you know, when you when you are absolutely off your nut, right, you don't walk past somewhere selling doner and you selling a doner kebab and you suddenly that doner kebab selling a doner kebab and you sudcis|ly that doner kebab selling a doner kebab and you sudcis good that doner kebab selling a doner kebab and you sudcis good forthat doner kebab selling a doner kebab and you sudcis good forthat buter kebab selling a doner kebab and you sudcis good forthat but you bab selling a doner kebab and you sudcis good forthat but you just now is good for me. but you just stop caring about what it's doing your arteries and you doing to your arteries and you order and that's order it anyway. and that's basically dealing order it anyway. and that's basi(here, dealing order it anyway. and that's basi(here, isn't dealing order it anyway. and that's basi(here, isn't it? dealing with here, isn't it? >> it is. but you know what the most important thing is? i don't think people really understand the mechanism how alcohol the mechanism of how alcohol works. like has to do

works. and it's like has to do with sugars, all all sugars with all sugars, all all sugars are reckless are make people do reckless behaviour because even basic sugar , it's telling the body sugar, it's telling the body that winter time is coming. that wintertime is coming. we've got to we've got to get fat for wintertime because we're not going to have any food and it makes us go and do crazy things go get bag of things like go get the bag of chips in the kebab shop or have a kebab. alcohol is even a kebab. but alcohol is even worse than because worse than that because it's because what it does is what what fermented sugar is. it's a signalling molecule . and i signalling molecule. and i happen to be an epidemic ologist at the at the king's college hospital in my spare time. it's not just comedy that i'm doing is that is that it tells the body that something dangerous is happening if you're so willing to eat raw , rotten fruit from to eat raw, rotten fruit from under a tree and it says to the body, you better do something reckless to get fat, right? >> i mean, to be honest. so i stopped drinking just over a year ago . and yeah, i initially

year ago. and yeah, i initially thought this is great because i won't make any more rash decisions and my life will get better and i won't wake up in unbelievably chaotic situations that i will have to deal with the next day. and actually what happened was i continue to make terrible decisions now, just now can't use alcohol to cushion the resentment and the regret that i get off the back of that. so in a way, it's worse for me. but, you know, it's good to know, though, isn't it? i think the epidemiology behind it. but louis, thank you very, very much. it's always an absolute pleasure to have and pleasure to have you on. and people can you out if they people can check you out if they don't know who you are. already on headliners pretty regular. >> headliners 11:00. on headliners pretty regular. >> tonight.adliners 11:00. on headliners pretty regular. >> tonight.adli|be; 11:00. on headliners pretty regular. >> tonight.adli|be; tomorrow not tonight. i'll be on tomorrow night. watch me, night. you can watch me, but even i'm not the show is even if i'm not on the show is amazing. it's. it's. it'sjust. it's comedy. it's stupid. good >> well, aren't we all? in a way, louis, thank you very, very much. louis schaefer, make sure you do check him out. now, there's another big story that's been rounds this been doing the rounds and this has rounds for has been doing the rounds for

quite days or weeks, quite a few days or weeks, actually, ever since the women's world and some world cup final. and some shocking has been shocking new footage has been released appears to released showing what appears to be forward jenni hermoso be spanish forward jenni hermoso laughing and joking about being kissed by the head of spanish football, luis rubiales, after their victory in the women's world cup . so days later after world cup. so days later after this picture, i'm just going to say so this is the picture. this is apparently the team bus. okay? after after they'd won the world cup. so you can see the winner's medal there, presumably the world cup is somewhere on that she is the lady who that bus and she is the lady who that bus and she is the lady who that planted a smacker that chap planted a smacker on. and i do think that and by the way, i do think that was weird. i mean, it was objectively a weird thing to do, wasn't it? there was a crotch grabbing there as well as it was his own crotch. not the way his own crotch. not in the way that trump was alleged that donald trump was alleged to have and yeah, there we have done it. and yeah, there we go. so days later, she would denounce the kiss as a sexist act left feeling act that left her feeling vulnerable . she's gone on to say vulnerable. she's gone on to say that she didn't think it was consensual at all. rubiales

consensual at all. and rubiales is to resign, is still refusing to resign, though chap is despite an though that chap is despite an extraordinary of spanish extraordinary meeting of spanish football calling for his football chiefs calling for his resignation . his mother has gone resignation. his mother has gone on hunger strike, which is, i think, the only way that this could have got weirder . she's could have got weirder. she's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's apparently where she is now . holed up that's apparently where she is now. holed up in a church on hunger strike, refusing to eat, saying that she is willing to die for her son's honour and let's be honest, she may well have to be. but then there have been protests at this church and then there was a talk of, of course, the protests in madrid that there were as well . there that there were as well. there was these massive protests that were taking place in madrid for people going out and saying this is absolutely ridiculous. this guy 9°t is absolutely ridiculous. this guy got to go. so the guy has got to go. so the barcelona football the barcelona football team, the latest seen there is latest that i've seen there is that all decided that that they've all decided that they to go on they are now going to go on strike this chap goes. strike unless this chap goes. but the video the pictures but the video and the pictures that come out today appear that have come out today appear to show spanish to show that the spanish football and the woman football team and the woman involved and involved were laughing and joking she joking about the fact that she had on the lips with this

had a kiss on the lips with this guy in the aftermath of it. that's a picture of it on her phone there. she appears to be smiling. look, might smiling. now, look, this might all and all be misleading and i certainly do not want to diminish lived diminish anybody's lived experience harassment diminish anybody's lived experienc assault harassment diminish anybody's lived experienc assault or harassment diminish anybody's lived experienc assault or anything ent or sexual assault or anything along lines. but do you along those lines. but do you not think this starts to look a little bit odd, like people got a lot of traction on social little bit odd, like people got a lot osayingon on social little bit odd, like people got a lot osaying that| social little bit odd, like people got a lot osaying that guy ial little bit odd, like people got a lot osaying that guy has media saying that guy has behaved strangely this behaved very strangely to this lady. maybe initially lady. she maybe initially thought fine . and then thought it was fine. and then the light day thought the cold light of day thought maybe fine. i don't the cold light of day thought maybedo fine. i don't the cold light of day thought maybedo you fine. i don't the cold light of day thought maybedo you note. i don't the cold light of day thought maybedo you not think n't the cold light of day thought maybedo you not think it's all know. do you not think it's all a little bit murky and a little bit messy? way? i think bit messy? either way? i think we all that that bloke we can all agree that that bloke should have just behaved should not have just behaved like complete utter like a complete and utter lunatic one of the lunatic on stage at one of the biggest sporting events of the world. we'll have to world. but yes, we'll have to wait see how this all pans wait and see how this all pans out, i'm going to out, won't we? i'm going to round this hour delving round off this hour by delving into terrifying world of my into the terrifying world of my inbox loads of you getting in touch harry touch about the prince harry latest as well, saying, i latest as well, saying, look, i think prince harry a lot of think prince harry does a lot of good this from katrina. good work this is from katrina. there's of good work with there's a lot of good work with charity. but he couldn't resist a little sneaky dig the royal a little sneaky dig at the royal family. and that actually

diminishes opinion. diminishes him, in my opinion. that katrina there quite that is from katrina there quite a on team coach video is a bit on the team coach video is a bit on the team coach video is a game changer for the spanish side. should be ashamed . that's side. should be ashamed. that's according to ian. but then ian , according to ian. but then ian, you know what i'm going to say to ian, that is a bloke's to you, ian, that is a bloke's name. you're a woman, maybe name. if you're a woman, maybe you would feel slightly differently you? and differently on it. do you? and indeedi differently on it. do you? and indeed i have a right, any right at all to say how a woman should feel in the immediate aftermath? or couple later, or then a couple of days later, after you know, maybe after the event, you know, maybe we shouldn't actually be piping up this, but i've up about all of this, but i've got more coming in the got loads more coming in the next hour for you. a couple of big justice stories the top big justice stories at the top on latest the channel on the latest on the channel migrant attack. migrant crisis in attack. >> outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar of weather solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. hello again. on. gb news. hello again. >> it's luke miall from the met office with your gb news weather forecast as we head through this evening. those showers that we've will tend to we've had today will tend to ease clear across ease away clear spells across many parts and turning quite chilly out there and that's all down this ridge of high down to this ridge of high pressure building pressure that's building in overnight with low overnight across the uk with low pressure either side of but

pressure either side of us. but that settles things down for the next 12 hours or so. so a few showers to come for the next couple of hours, but they will fade then as you fade away. and then as you can see, starry skies much of see, starry skies across much of the allowing our the country, allowing our temperatures really dip away. temperatures to really dip away. but they will begin to come up across later on in across the southwest later on in the night as we see cloud and rain pushing on the doors of pembrokeshire the pembrokeshire and the far southwest england by dawn. southwest of england by dawn. but i say , 8 or southwest of england by dawn. but isay,8or9in southwest of england by dawn. but i say , 8 or 9 in towns but as i say, 8 or 9 in towns and cities, cold than this in the countryside . but it's the the countryside. but it's the focus is going to be the rain across the southwest through the morning. heavy coming morning. some heavy rain coming across wales , central southern across wales, central southern england. for northern england. and for northern ireland as well. that rain getting into the midlands the getting into the midlands by the middle the day to the middle part of the day to the north and east of it, it stays dry. sky turning little dry. the sky turning a little bit from time to time, but bit hazy from time to time, but some decent of sunshine some decent spells of sunshine and the sunshine and temperatures in the sunshine still 20, 21 degrees, but quite cool grey under this cloud cool and grey under this cloud and through the now and rain through the day. now running friday. running forward into friday. most of that will push its most of that rain will push its way through and then we'll see a mixture sunshine. but some

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channel is4 channel is 4 pm. >> is patrick christys. it's gb news busy hour coming your way. make killers face real justice. the government has come out and said they will do their best to try to drag killers to the dock so that they face the victim impact statements. course impact statements. and of course their but when you their sentencing. but when you look the print of this, look at the fine print of this, it's not quite enough. we have a petition on this at the moment. gbnews.com forward slash gb news.com forward slash justice. gbnews.com forward slash justice. sign it. make your voices detail on voices heard. more detail on that very , very shortly. but get that very, very shortly. but get a load this as well. this is a load of this as well. this is another weasel worded way a load of this as well. this is anot in' weasel worded way a load of this as well. this is anotin my weasel worded way a load of this as well. this is anot in my view. asel worded way a load of this as well. this is anotin my view. the worded way a load of this as well. this is anotin my view. the machete vay out. in my view. the machete madness, the zombie knife madness. we saw it at madness. we saw it again at notting hill carnival . why is it notting hill carnival. why is it always notting hill carnival, by the wonder? and you know, the way, i wonder? and you know, what we going to about what are we going to do about this? the government is saying now they are to going try now that they are to going try to sentencing for to increase sentencing for people caught these people who are caught with these knives, but actually, that sentence isn't a particularly big that. big one. more on that. again, i'm to be talking i'm also going to be talking about this story as well. britain is supposedly now not a christian country anymore, and thatis christian country anymore, and that is according people who that is according to people who are members of the anglican

church, which i think is slightly defeatist , isn't it? slightly defeatist, isn't it? what do you make of all of that? are we a christian country? have we not been for some and we not been for some time? and finally, yesterday ulez finally, yes, yesterday was ulez day. out in bromley all day. i was out in bromley all day. i was out in bromley all day and i did actually enjoy it . and anyway, so apparently . and yes, anyway, so apparently now they are looking at ways for you to out of your fines if you to get out of your fines if you to get out of your fines if you were fined. okay. on the ulez charges that first very ulez charges on that first very chaotic day, maybe , maybe, maybe chaotic day, maybe, maybe, maybe you can wriggle out of that. fine. i'll be telling you all about that in just a moment. patrick christys . gb news loads patrick christys. gb news loads to get stuck into their gbviews@gbnews.com. get your emails coming in thick and fast. i will have plenty of time for emails so i can get yourself on the telly. but right now it's your headlines. >> patrick thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. the

prime minister says those hit by new ulez charges shouldn't expect any more financial assistance from the government. speaking to gb news, rishi sunak said he understands the frustration felt by residents forced to pay a daily charge due to the expansion of the mayor of london's clean air scheme . he london's clean air scheme. he also urged the labour party to explain why they think it's right to go ahead with the plan. when families are struggling with the rising of living . with the rising cost of living. >> this is solely the responsibility of the labor party and the labour mayor sadiq khan and starmer. it's for khan and keir starmer. it's for them explain why they think them to explain why they think this is the right thing do this is the right thing to do and they should that. i don't this is the right thing to do and tiit's should that. i don't this is the right thing to do and tiit's the jld that. i don't this is the right thing to do and tiit's the right that. i don't this is the right thing to do and tiit's the right priority. don't think it's the right priority. people made their views people have made their views very clear and now it's up to them explain themselves and them to explain themselves and why this is the right why they think this is the right thing to do. >> will given the >> judges will be given the power an offender to power to order an offender to attend their sentencing hearing under new legislation by attend their sentencing hearing undgovernment. ation by attend their sentencing hearing undgovernment. the] by attend their sentencing hearing undgovernment. the ministry by attend their sentencing hearing undgovernment. the ministry ofy the government. the ministry of justice the law will enable justice says the law will enable force be used necessary . force to be used if necessary. it comes after serial child killer lucy letby refused to attend her sentencing and hear the testimony . any of her

the testimony. any of her victims families . hurricane victims families. hurricane idaua victims families. hurricane idalia has made landfall on florida's gulf coast. according to the us national hurricane centre, the storm had intensified to category four, prompting florida's emergency chief to tell residents to drop what you're doing and get to safety . it's now been downgraded safety. it's now been downgraded to a category two, but remains extremely dangerous. speaking earlier today , governor ron earlier today, governor ron desantis warned residents not to underestimate the danger. >> national hurricane centre expects storm surge to reach up to 16ft in some areas of the big bend region. that that level of storm surge is life threatening. do not go outside in the midst of this storm if it's calm where you are , it may be because you you are, it may be because you are in the eye of the storm and those conditions will change very, very quickly . so wherever very, very quickly. so wherever you are , hunker down is carrying you are, hunker down is carrying out three days of repatriation

flights after an air traffic control fault left thousands of british tourists stranded abroad. >> the first from palma and faro are flying into london gatwick while additional flights will take place tomorrow and friday. the airline is also deploying larger aircraft on key routes to accommodate 700 more people, all more than a quarter of a million holidaymakers are thought to have been affected by the disruption . james cleverly has disruption. james cleverly has become the first foreign secretary to visit china in five years. during the visit, james cleverly held face to face talks with vice president han geng and told broadcaster shares the uk is clear eyed that china will not change overnight . mr not change overnight. mr cleverly also said it's important to maintain regular dialogue as we seek to influence the country. the trip has been met with criticism from some tory mps who want a tougher stance against beijing. former tory party leader sir iain duncan smith told gb news the government need to decide what it wants from china . it wants from china. >> so this is the real problem .

>> so this is the real problem. what are we going over for ? or what are we going over for? or is it more business? is it more trade with them or is it to tell them that unless they get their act together and stop abusing people using slave labour? et cetera, then we won't trade with them. but we're not doing any of that. >> met police commissioner, sir mark rowley has welcomed government plans to ban zombie style knives . according to the style knives. according to the home office, workers underway to increase the maximum sentence for their importation manufacture , possession and sale manufacture, possession and sale to two years. police will also have greater powers to tackle offenders who use them. sir mark said the weapons are doing awful damage in the capital. home sales in the uk are expected to be around a fifth lower this year than last year. property website zoopla found only around a million house sales could be completed . that's the lowest completed. that's the lowest total since 2012 and equates to the average household moving once every 23 years as at least two people have been killed and

many injured after a missile and drone attack on the ukrainian . drone attack on the ukrainian. capital russia launched the air assault on key from several directions , with ukraine, directions, with ukraine, calling it the most powerful attack since spring. although the air defences were able to destroy a number of targets, falling debris hit several buildings, injuring a number of people . this is gb news across people. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaken digital radio and on your smart speaker. by saying play gb news now it's back to . patrick now it's back to. patrick >> let's start this hour with an exclusive gb news interview with the prime minister. he's been speaking to our political edhon speaking to our political editor, christopher hope, on a number of topics. they include the expansion of the ulez to all london boroughs. rishi sunak told that there'll no new told us that there'll be no new government for those

government money for those families impacted sadiq families impacted by sadiq khan's scheme. >> do you understand the frustration of residents hit by this increase in the ulez zone into outer london? >> i do understand the frustration and i think the mayor and keir starmer and the labour party should explain to people why they think the right priority time where people priority at a time where people are struggling the are already struggling with the cost to impose a cost of living is to impose a charge £12.50 every charge of £12.50 on them every time drive into to london, time they drive into to london, whether it's to see their gp go shopping, kids to shopping, take their kids to school. think the school. i don't think that's the right to do. right thing to do. >> can you can you help central central government give any more support home counties support for county home counties around london or those hit around london or even those hit by new charge? by hit by this new charge? >> this solely the >> this is solely the responsibility of the labour party the labour mayor sadiq party and the labour mayor sadiq khan keir starmer. it's for khan and keir starmer. it's for them explain why think them to explain why they think this is right thing to do this is the right thing to do and should that. i don't and they should do that. i don't think the right priority. think it's the right priority. people views people have made their views very now it's up to very clear and now it's up to them to themselves and them to explain themselves and why they think this is the right thing we've got campaign thing to do. we've got campaign at that there should be at gb news that there should be at gb news that there should be a to access cash in a legal right to access cash in shops.you a legal right to access cash in

shops. you support it? >> do you support it? >> do you support it? >> actually, while i was chancellor, i put in place laws which passed which which have now passed which ensure do have ensure that people do have access cash, because access to cash, because i understand important is. understand how important it is. of transitioning of course we're transitioning and electronic money and using more electronic money and using more electronic money and things online, and doing more things online, but is important to people, but cash is important to people, particularly rural particularly in rural communities i communities like the one i represent, laws that represent, the new laws that we've now passed will ensure that more than we've now passed will ensure that miles more than we've now passed will ensure that miles away more than we've now passed will ensure that miles away from yre than we've now passed will ensure that miles away from having three miles away from having access the regulator, access to cash. the regulator, the will have powers to the fca, will have new powers to fine or compel banks to provide those people because those services to people because we important they are. we know how important they are. that's we've new that's why we've passed a new law make sure that shops, law to make sure that shops, though, right pay for though, have a right to pay for things in shops, not just banks, but in shops. think it's right but in shops. i think it's right that should access that people should have access to different thing to cash. it's a different thing for the government to start imposing individual imposing on individual businesses should do businesses how they should do their business. i don't think that's we that's appropriate. but what we can the financial can do is regulate the financial service industry so people do have access themselves. have access to cash themselves. >> a police station >> we're in a police station here north london. you here in north london. do you think officers should take the knee? >>i knee? >> i think what officers and police be police everywhere should be focussed tackling focussed on is on tackling crime. what public crime. that's what the public expects them and that's what expects of them and that's what i expect them. and i've been

i expect of them. and i've been talking police officers here talking to police officers here today. that's they're keen today. that's what they're keen today. that's what they're keen to that's why of to deliver and that's why one of the done recently the things we've done recently is police is agree with the police that they will all they will follow up all reasonable lines of enquiry when thefts that's what thefts happen again. that's what people would expect and especially now where there's more whether more technology, whether it's gps doorbell of gps or doorbell video, all of these can be given these things that can be given to police people will expect to the police people will expect them up on those them to follow up on those things actually just catch things and actually just catch criminals tackling criminals as well as tackling things like anti—social behaviour. earlier behaviour. which is why earlier this with the this year we worked with the police local authorities to police and local authorities to announce a compelling anti—social plan. this anti—social behaviour plan. this is the type that is the type of crime that impacts communities up impacts too many communities up and country these and down the country and these are butter issues are the bread and butter issues that police should focusing. >> so gestures like taking >> so not gestures like taking the knee. >> now i think police officers are ones i've spoken to are the ones i've spoken to today are focusing catching today are focusing on catching criminals, whether that's tackling people who are committing burglaries tackling people who are cwhether|g burglaries tackling people who are cwhether that's burglaries tackling people who are cwhether that's people )urglaries tackling people who are cwhether that's people who aries tackling people who are cwhether that's people who ares , whether that's people who are doing antisocial behaviour or indeed serious indeed whether it's serious violence like knife crime. and that's passed new laws that's why we've passed new laws today. announced new laws today. we've announced new laws today. we've announced new laws today will the police today that will give the police more tackle knife more power to tackle knife crime, we are reducing. crime, which we are reducing. but we of course need to do more

because an awful crime. the because it's an awful crime. the deadune because it's an awful crime. the deadline to move afghans who came the two years ago came here in the two years ago out bridging combination out of bridging combination hotels will you hit hotels is tomorrow will you hit that yeah, made that deadline? yeah, we've made very progress on doing very good progress on doing that. speaks broader that. and it speaks to a broader a broader challenge we have that at the moment. we've got the country spending millions of pounds a day to house illegal migrants in hotels. now, that's not right. it's simply unfair and not sustainable. >> will you all move out by tomorrow? >> we're making very good progress towards that deadline. but more broadly, more broadly, i think this is not about tomorrow, the day tomorrow, yesterday, the day after, to the after, we've got to end the situation where spend situation where we spend millions of pounds a day housing illegal migrants in hotels. i don't think that's right. which is looking at is why we're looking at alternative sites barges. alternative sites like barges. but fundamentally we've but it's why fundamentally we've got people coming here got to stop people coming here in first that's what in the first place. that's what i'll the boats law will i'll stop. the boats law will enable and i'm glad enable us to do. and i'm glad that we've already made progress. and it's really important for people to know this because they are frustrated. am frustrated frustrated. i am frustrated about hope about this situation. i hope people understand that this

yean people understand that this year, the first time since year, for the first time since the small boats crisis emerged, numbers are down. i just want to say that again, numbers are down for the first time since the small boats. >> it's 20,000 this year. when will they go back onto the barge in the south coast? >> we're working through make >> we're working through to make sure safe for people sure that it's safe for people to back on. soon as that to go back on. as soon as that as soon as all those checks and tests been completed. we tests have been completed. we want people on the want to put people back on the barge because i don't want our taxpayers to be spending millions housing millions of pounds housing people in their people in in hotels, in their communities where we can find alternative communities where we can find alterrthing do, the right thing to do, like the barge, but more fundamentally, while to reduce the while we've got to reduce the number people coming here and number of people coming here and again, say this for the again, i would say this for the first time, numbers this first time, the numbers this year meaningfully down on first time, the numbers this yea year meaningfully down on first time, the numbers this yea year before. gfully down on first time, the numbers this yea year before. so lly down on first time, the numbers this yea year before. so iy down on first time, the numbers this yea year before. so i known on the year before. so i know people frustrated, people are frustrated, but i want know that progress want them to know that progress is being made. we've returned 3000 to 3000 illegal migrants to albania. signed albania. that has since i signed the new deal with them. these are new things we are doing are new things that we are doing that are making a difference and i it. i will keep at it. >> do anything to help >> we'll do anything to help families of families through the cost of living crisis autumn. living crisis this autumn. anything planned within soaring

inflation with inflation and difficulties with interest inflation and difficulties with inter> i know things are challenging for families and that's why the government taken significant government has taken significant action, particularly to help with bills where we with energy bills where we provided support worth around £1,500 to a typical family to help pay with about half their energy bill. we helped. we funded that through the windfall tax we levied on energy tax that we levied on energy companies . think the companies. i think that's the right thing do, particularly right thing to do, particularly for pensioners. for example, this they will receive an this winter they will receive an extra £300 up to alongside their winter fuel payment because we want to make sure pensioners get extra on extra support. those on universal receiving universal credit are receiving around £900 in direct cost of living the national living support. the national living support. the national living gone all living wage has gone up. so all those things help the most those things will help the most vulnerable society. the most vulnerable in society. the most important thing do for the important thing i can do for the country for family is country and for every family is to inflation. it's to bring down inflation. it's inflation that is putting up the pnces inflation that is putting up the prices things shops. it's prices of things in shops. it's eating people's savings, eating into people's savings, making them feel poorer. i need eating into people's savings, m'bringthem feel poorer. i need eating into people's savings, m'bringthem �*inflationer. i need eating into people's savings, m'bringthem “inflation to i need eating into people's savings, m'bringthem “inflation to help d to bring down inflation to help people with the people fundamentally with the cost living, our plan is cost of living, and our plan is working the last couple of working for the last couple of months of show that months of data show that inflation coming down. if we

inflation is coming down. if we stick to the plan, we will be able to deliver that for families and down country. >> just finally, you watched you cheat lionesses cheat on the lionesses from home. you make of the home. what do you make of the spanish fa president rubiales kissing jenni hermoso on the lips? understanding is >> well, my understanding is that spanish authorities that the spanish authorities have a formal have initiated a formal preliminary and preliminary investigation and they the appropriate they will take the appropriate action investigation action as that investigation concludes. . concludes. prime minister. >> thank you very >> thank you. thank you very much >> thank you. thank you very mu well, was our political >> well, that was our political edhon >> well, that was our political editor, christopher hope there, i think his best to to i think doing his best to try to make sure that rishi sunak, our prime had read every prime minister, had read every single of every single column, inch of every single column, inch of every single news story that single major news story that there but i believe there was. but i believe christopher joins me now. thank christopherjoins me now. thank you very much. stuff. you very much. good stuff. he would drawn on whether or would not be drawn on whether or not officers take not police officers should take the knee . the knee. >> well, no, he indicated that the priority should be catching criminals . and we saw, didn't criminals. and we saw, didn't we, on monday, how the government said the told police forces agreed with the police forces, in fact, to use cctv camera footage, doorbell footage to try and track down all crimes, no matter how trivial , crimes, no matter how trivial, trivial to the police forces.

but of course, much worse and really catastrophic for any victim of crime. so i think he was he was moving towards the point of saying i was agreeing with mark rowley, the police, the police chief, who told the met police chief, who told the met police chief, who told the week that , the telegraph this week that, frankly, it's time to focus on doing the day job not worry doing the day job and not worry about distractions maybe doing the day job and not worry about which stractions maybe doing the day job and not worry about which taking ns maybe doing the day job and not worry about which taking the naybe doing the day job and not worry about which taking the knee is which which taking the knee is one yeah indeed. one of those. yeah indeed. >> look, there was bit of >> now, look, there was a bit of a victory , i think, for a partial victory, i think, for a partial victory, i think, for a petition got going a petition that i've got going on the moment. it's about on at the moment. it's about making killers face real justice. could you just fill us in what he's actually said in on what he's actually said about getting people the dock about getting people in the dock to to victim impact to listen to victim impact statements to hear statements and as well to hear their this comes off their sentencing? this comes off their sentencing? this comes off the back of letby, but also the back of lucy letby, but also other serious like it i >> -- >> that's lam >> that's right. with thomas cashman and others who refused to face their victims in court and being sentenced. stay in the cells downstairs. that can increase the agony for victims. they can't see the whites of the eyes of the people who have caused this court , have caused this court, have committed these crimes against them, and they think they can get closure on it. so what get no closure on it. so what the government going to do is

the government is going to do is bnng the government is going to do is bring forward as soon as they can, in can, new measures probably in the say that if the king's speech to say that if you refuse to attend court to you do refuse to attend court to the for the sentencing , you the for the sentencing, you could two more years added could face two more years added to and course, to your term. and of course, that letby case or that won't affect letby case or a cashman case because they may have had many life sentences, or at least certainly in case of letby many life sentences. but the idea is it's going to put pressure on judges. i think one of be winners actually in of the be winners actually in law is they have to try and make sure face sure that criminals face justice. might make it justice. then it might make it more forjudges justice. then it might make it more for judges to more difficult for judges to turn if that fails turn a blind eye if that fails to happen. so it's trying to bnng to happen. so it's trying to bring it bring it into sharp focus so they can attend focus so they can maybe attend court handcuffs or if they court in handcuffs or if they can't they can't attend court, they might have to face an expert to judge whether they are whether they don't have to attend court at all. the but you all. that's the idea. but as you say, it will have to see say, i think it will have to see how that plays out when it's actually passed. christopher thank much. thank you very much. >> there. >> christopher hope there. our political editor. that political editor. you have that exclusive interview with rishi sunak. will be sunak. right? so judges will be given power to order an given the power to order an offender to attend their

sentencing hearing under new legislation planned by the government. comes after government. this comes after a number of high profile cases where lucy letby, where criminals like lucy letby, connor chapman. et cetera. the killer of elle edwards refused to attend sentencing and face their victims families. elle edwards. sorry, i should have pronounced that better. i'm joined now by tim edwards, who isindeed joined now by tim edwards, who is indeed ellie's father. tim, thank you very much. cheers for joining us. to great have you on the show again. and look, what do of this? do you do you make of this? do you think this a when you look at think this is a when you look at the small what the the small print of what the government said today and government have said today and what rishi sunak has said today, i really think it i just don't really think it actually changes we are actually changes where we are now. doesn't if now. i mean, it doesn't if someone's a full life someone's facing a full life tariff, a couple of years tariff, adding a couple of years on sentence wouldn't on to their sentence wouldn't really the world really make the world of difference, it? do difference, would it? what do you make of it? well i think if the extension of the sentences that are given, really i mean, if you get a whole life sentence, it really doesn't really make that much difference. >> but it gives the power to the court to bring those people

before the families and it makes them face the families and it gives the families an opportunity to speak and get across the impact of what's up, what's happened in their lives. and i think that's ultimately very important. do you think that it should be a case of saying to people, look, if you don't present yourself at the dock, all right, okay, we'll do our best to drag you there using reasonable force that might not always be possible, we always be possible, but we should bare minimum , beam should at the bare minimum, beam the the victim the sentencing and the victim impact your cell impact statements into your cell and take privileges off you and take your privileges off you whilst you're prison. whilst you're in prison. >> you've a lifetime in >> so you've got a lifetime in prison without a phone call, without tuck shop, without going to the tuck shop, without going to the tuck shop, without this stuff. without all of this stuff. if you don't to the dock you don't come up to the dock and hear this , yeah, that's very and hear this, yeah, that's very much you know, there's ways and means . means. >> i mean, the biggest problem i think, with it is the physically getting them in the dock . if you getting them in the dock. if you bnng getting them in the dock. if you bring them, you know , drag them bring them, you know, drag them up, scream and shout and it's going to make more of a mockery

again of the whole situation where they're not going to listen or take on board what what the family has to say through the impact statements and i mean, i don't know how you're going to do that, but they should they ultimately they have to be made to stand in front of you at that point. >> the thing is, at the moment as well, which is that the government has not actually put a time frame on when they're going to introduce this new legislation. okay. and i think that's another thing that they should be doing, tim, because, you know , they can just kick it you know, they can just kick it down the road and i don't know how you but i just feel how you feel, but i just feel constantly fobbed off by frankly , politicians on , all politicians really on a near basis . so i don't near daily basis. so i don't know whether or this is know whether or not this is something that you think they should doing. well should be doing. well politicians, you know, they have a tendency to tell you what you want, what people want to hear, but then implementing the things that you talk about is another

thing. >> but i think with this in this instance, i think it's so in the face of the public that the politicians who make these decisions have got no choice but to make this happen rather sooner rather than later, because if they drag the heels, it's just to going backfire on them, i think. and it needs to be done now. i think it's also important that they realise tim, that people like yourself are not going away, really are you? >> you passionately >> i mean, you care passionately about right ? and about this topic, right? and that you're not to that you're, you're not going to you're not going to let it drop and for shaun bailey. and look for shaun bailey. i mean, think i last spoke to mean, i think i last spoke to you wake of the lucy you in the wake of the lucy letby sentencing . and, you know, letby sentencing. and, you know, we don't really want to be doing it again. i don't think the government would want to be doing it again. somebody else who's some kind of who's committed some kind of vile crime, they refuse to attend, you the sentencing attend, you know, the sentencing and and i keep having and then you and i keep having another conversation and it's all they've actually all because they've not actually sorted in the meantime, sorted it out in the meantime, is they just if is it? i think if they just if they just realised you they just realised that you weren't away that weren't going away and that pubuc weren't going away and that public opinion wasn't going to

change did something change and they did something about it, it might for the about it, it might be for the best. yeah absolutely. >> and think the case. >> and i think that is the case. i know, people like i mean, you know, people like cheryl korbel and the victims of the case, you know that. okay. that time's gone now that they have that chance to do that. but we're they're very much still in the forefront of what needs to be done. and no one's going to go away and leave this alone. no one's going to no one's to going turn their back and forget about this. and this will this will keep people will keep banging on that door until it's actually put into effect. and you know, the persistent punched it out. they're not going to give up. i'm sure about that. >> no, absolutely. and look, we have got this petition on the go at the minute, nearly 30,000 signatures, gb news dot com forward justice qr forward slash justice as a qr code people as well just code for people as well just to try add to the weight of try and to add to the weight of this and really make sure that we don't get fobbed off by it really. and today's really. and again, today's message government message from the government i thought step in the right

thought was a step in the right direction because at least they were if were talking about it. but if you fine print of you look at the fine print of it, it's not actually that much of a practical difference to what we've got at the moment. i don't really think that's going to a lot of people. to wash with a lot of people. but tim, thank you very much. always to to you always a pleasure to talk to you and i'll chat you and hopefully i'll chat to you again very soon. members there, elle now elle edwards father, now look, you or listening you are watching or listening to me. patrick christys on gb news qr what it's worth, qr code, for what it's worth, has just popped up on your screen. hold your phone over screen. now hold your phone over it you to a it and it will take you to a petition can sign it. petition and you can sign it. and can help make killers and we can help make killers face real justice. but coming up, foreign james up, foreign secretary james cleverly beijing, making cleverly is in beijing, making him visit him the first to visit the country since but look, country since 2018. but look, should we be engaging with the chinese government? be chinese government? should we be holding fire a holding their feet to the fire a little bit more and saying, look, we disagree you look, we disagree with you politically. we with politically. we disagree with you and we don't you on human rights and we don't forgive you for what

online gb news britain's news channel. online gb news britain's news channel . will channel. will >> so james cleverly is in beijing in the first visit of a uk foreign secretary in more than five years now. well before the covid 19 pandemic broke out. but the foreign affairs committee today released a report urging more transparency from our government our from our government and our approach to asian approach to the asian superpower. look, essentially , superpower. look, essentially, should we be engaging with china or not? are they actually our enemies? are we just appeasing to them is cleverly being. they're just a vivid sign of weakness. executive director of the henry jackson society, alan mendoza, joins me now . should

mendoza, joins me now. should james cleverly have gone to beijing to tell china to do beijing just to tell china to do one and then come home? well, if only he was telling them to do one. >> but that's not what he's going to be telling them, is it, patrick? >> he's going to say, look, you've been bad on human you've been very bad on human rights, why can't we all rights, but why can't we all work for the way work together for the way forward clear. we are your forward is clear. we are your friends. et cetera. et cetera. et cetera. and so that basis, et cetera. and so on that basis, i think was a real i don't think there was a real value in this meeting because all chinese take it is all the chinese will take it is that kind happy to that we're kind of happy to accept they want. accept whatever they want. >> yeah. which is pathetic, isn't because thing is , isn't it? because the thing is, though, we have been happy to accept want accept whatever they want and this up. we this is what winds me up. we were happy to accept covid essentially no essentially with no repercussions. all the repercussions. and all of the absolute and nuttery that absolute lies and nuttery that came their explanations came out of their explanations for know, the fact for that. you know, the fact that they manuyo that they undercut manuyo factoring long they factoring for however long they felt they clearly don't felt that they clearly don't mean well the mean as well on the international stage. hong kong, you this stuff. i you know, all of this stuff. i mean, even there's even footage of officials of some chinese officials battering people outside their embassies in the uk, for goodness sake. we let that slide, don't we? i mean , i mean,

slide, don't we? i mean, i mean, what next? i mean, we don't care. we will let them get away with anything, won't we? >> well, here's the problem. >> well, here's the problem. >> i mean, you've just highlighted a litany of offences that the regime has been that the chinese regime has been responsible past responsible for over the past few it's not as if few years, and it's not as if it's getting better. it's getting any better. in fact, the direction of travel is getting in regards to getting worse in regards to chinese espionage, in regards to chinese espionage, in regards to chinese regards chinese repression, in regards to threats towards to chinese threats towards taiwan, regards to what's taiwan, in regards to what's happenedin taiwan, in regards to what's happened in hong kong. and so , happened in hong kong. and so, you know, when a country is heading direction, it heading on a worse direction, it seems unclear why would go seems unclear why we would go and give them a meeting which can only be used for pr purposes on their regard. not saying on their regard. i'm not saying cut all ties with them. i'm cut off all ties with them. i'm not that. but i'm saying not saying that. but i'm saying did really go to did we really need to go to beijing sort of give them beijing and sort of give them the credibility that gives them? i think it's a big mistake, actually. >> but it also just seems to be china's genuine general reaction whenever up about whenever we pipe up about something. so when they were kind breaking through the kind of breaking through the terms with hong terms of our agreement with hong kong saying, look, kong and we were saying, look, do mind just not doing that? do you mind just not doing that? you we've basically

you know, we've basically got a contract about how we contract out here about how we behave. oh, well, behave. and they go, oh, well, if you want to go to war with china and we don't want to go to war with china, we're just asking just stick asking you, could we just stick to the agreement? to the rules of the agreement? well, you want an of well, if you want an enemy of china, you know, they just go from nought to aggressive in no time and they don't. i'm time at all. and they don't. i'm just they don't just convinced that they don't care they just as care about us. they just see as an annoyance. >> now you're getting >> well, now you're getting on to something interesting to something very interesting because the chinese because what is it the chinese communist party actually wants? because what is it the chinese comnitnist party actually wants? because what is it the chinese comnit wants rty actually wants? because what is it the chinese comnit wants is' actually wants? because what is it the chinese comnit wants is dominance.ints? because what is it the chinese comnit wants is dominance. it's’ what it wants is dominance. it's not interested partnership. not interested in partnership. it's the top it's interested in being the top dog internationally. that means supplanting in supplanting the us in particular. anyone who particular. but anyone who wishes a based wishes to enforce a rules based system, not interested system, they're not interested in, because are a prime in, and because we are a prime defender of that international system, of course our view doesn't count. view doesn't count. our view will never because is never count because this is a communist party. it may not be a communist party. it may not be a communist terms of communist party in terms of economics it's economics anymore, but it's a repressive, communist repressive, dominating communist party that has no room for alternative views than its own. and it's a big mistake to forget that. and i think we are forgetting what that party is, what that country's government

actually is thinking. we can somehow influence can't. somehow influence it. we can't. they're interested . they're not interested. >> and no, they're not interested. also they are interested. but also they are the opposite of everything the polar opposite of everything that for. and that we claim to stand for. and for all of those people that line british shores at the moment saying what a horrible little britain is little hellhole britain is because way we treat because of the way that we treat people arrive here illegally people who arrive here illegally on boats. you know, look what china to people at the china are doing to people at the minute. you know, supposedly death for members a death camps for members of a particular islamic sect, the uyghur muslims. you look at the way that they treat women over there , the complete and utter there, the complete and utter lack of any political expression or freedom. i mean, they are really the exact opposite of what we claim to care about in this world. i mean, are we just we're just too afraid to tell them that? are we? >> well, i think, again, you're on to something here. it's not it's not about the sort of us telling them on our own. i think what what we have to do collectively and i think this has been growing realisation has been a growing realisation over past few years because over the past few years because if you recall the chinese if you recall how the chinese normally when they're called

if you recall how the chinese nor|isilly when they're called if you recall how the chinese nor|is to when they're called if you recall how the chinese nor|is to try when they're called if you recall how the chinese nor|is to try andzn they're called if you recall how the chinese nor|is to try and punish, 'e called if you recall how the chinese nor|is to try and punish, as:alled if you recall how the chinese nor|is to try and punish, as youd out is to try and punish, as you say, go from zero aggression say, go from zero to aggression within in no time at all. if within in no time at all. and if you stand against china on you stand up against china on your and they will go for your own and they will go for you. but if stand up you. but if you stand up collectively against china as a growing number countries are growing number of countries are saying, got saying, actually, we've got serious concerns about what you're doing domestically and internationally , stand internationally, you stand a much better with this much better chance with this coalition, like, of coalition, if you like, of countries , because who coalition, if you like, of cou chinese , because who coalition, if you like, of cou chinese are , because who coalition, if you like, of cou chinese are goingzcause who coalition, if you like, of cou chinese are going to use who coalition, if you like, of cou chinese are going to attackio the chinese are going to attack everyone. that's going to everyone. that's not going to make them. if make any sense for them. and if you really comprehensive you want a really comprehensive and policy towards and sensible policy towards china , it's going be china, it's going to be collective response to chinese aggression and it's going to be aggression and it's going to be a collective sort of showdown of what beijing is trying to do, because in that way are you because only in that way are you going to get the chinese to behave responsibly internationally. >> alan, thank you very, very much for your wisdom and insights. mendoza there, insights. alan mendoza there, director henry director of the henry jackson society, reacting to james society, just reacting to james connolly's appeasement of china . that's certainly how it . and that's certainly how it looks anyway. watching looks anyway. you're watching you're patrick you're listening to me patrick christys gb news. coming up christys on gb news. coming up very shortly, have a big very shortly, will have a big debate the uk debate on whether or not the uk is a christian country

is still a christian country after three quarters of church of england priests, believe it or not, said that it cannot be described as that. i'm just that is just defeatist to the max, isn't it? you won't want to miss that debate, but right now it's your headlines. >> patrick, thank you very much and good afternoon. i'm tatiana sanchez in the newsroom. the prime minister says those hit by new ulez charges shouldn't expect any more financial support the government. support from the government. rishi sunak says he understands the frustration felt by residents forced to pay a daily charge. >> this is solely the responsibility of the labour party and the labour mayor sadiq khan and keir starmer. it's for them to explain why they think this is the right thing to do and should do that. i don't and they should do that. i don't think it's the right priority. people made their views people have made their views very and now up to very clear and now it's up to them to explain themselves and why this is the right why they think this is the right thing to do. >> will given the >> judges will be given the power an offender to power to order an offender to attend sentencing hearing

attend their sentencing hearing under legislation planned by under new legislation planned by the government, ministry of the government, the ministry of justice says the law will enable force to be if necessary . force to be used if necessary. hurricane natalia has made landfall on florida's gulf coast. the storm had intensified to category four, prompting florida's emergency chief to tell residents to drop what you're doing and get to safety. it's now been downgraded to category two, but remains extremely dangerous . you can get extremely dangerous. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com i >> -- >>a >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello again. it's luke miall from the met office with your gb news weather forecast as we head through this evening. those showers that we've had today will tend away clear will tend to ease away clear spells across parts and spells across many parts and turning out there . turning quite chilly out there. and all down to this

and that's all down to this ridge high pressure that's ridge of high pressure that's building across the building in overnight across the uk pressure either side uk with low pressure either side of us. that settles things of us. but that settles things for down the next 12 hours or so. so a few showers to come for the next of hours, but the next couple of hours, but they fade away. then as they will fade away. and then as you see, starry skies across you can see, starry skies across much of country allowing our much of the country allowing our temperatures away. temperatures to really dip away. but they will begin to come up across south—west later on across the south—west later on in night we see cloud in the night as we see cloud and rain pushing on the doors of pembrokeshire and the far south—west of england. by dawn . south—west of england. by dawn. but as i say, 8 or 9 in towns and cities colder than this in the countryside . but it's the the countryside. but it's the focus is going to be the rain across the south—west through the some heavy rain the morning. some heavy rain coming wales, central coming across wales, central southern england , and for southern england, and for northern well. that northern ireland as well. that rain midlands rain getting into the midlands by part of the day to by the middle part of the day to the north and east of it, it stays dry, the turning stays dry, the sky turning a little hazy from time little bit hazy from time to time, decent spells of time, but some decent spells of sunshine and temperatures in the sunshine and temperatures in the sunshine still 20, 21 degrees, but cool and grey under but quite cool and grey under this cloud. and rain through the day. now forward into day. now running forward into friday. of that rain will

friday. most of that rain will push way through and then push its way through and then we'll see mixture of sunshine. we'll see a mixture of sunshine. but some heavy showers breaking out through afternoon on out through the afternoon on on friday. your friday. so these are your maximum temperatures. as i say, some sunshine, but some clouds, some sunshine, but also some heavy downpours to watch out for. by by a brighter outlook with boxt solar. >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> well, i was quite shocked , >> well, i was quite shocked, but perhaps not surprised , but perhaps not surprised, though, unfortunately, about a survey conducted by the times frontline , an anglican clergy frontline, an anglican clergy have found that three quarters of church of england priests have a strong desire to change doctrine on issues like sexuality, sex marriage and the role of women to be more in line with the public opinion and to somewhat keep up with the times . now i can kind of understand

that to an extent, although people would argue that actually the point of scripture is that that's supposed to be the way to live your life and you shouldn't be updating that in be necessarily updating that in modern more modern times. but more importantly, also importantly, the survey also found three quarters of found out that three quarters of those england bigwigs those church of england bigwigs believe britain can believe that britain can no longer described a longer be described as a christian country. is that slightly defeatist? is that wrong? is that a good thing? do people think that multicultural ism diversity ism and diversity is our strength , but actually, are they strength, but actually, are they right to do that? does that maybe explain why are in the maybe explain why we are in the position that we're in at the moment? and, you know , when it moment? and, you know, when it comes to trying to encourage more people to go to church and to have faith as well, should you not be banging the drum a little bit more for it as opposed to just rolling over and admitting i is admitting defeat day? i say, is there link between britain no there a link between britain no longer, quote unquote being a christian and the people christian country and the people who are supposedly in charge of enforcing christianity in this country being unsure about country being very unsure about what beliefs actually are? what their beliefs actually are? i mean, that's part of the i mean, maybe that's part of the problem, but are actually

problem, but are they actually right? i'm now by our right? i'm joined now by our very own calvin robinson gb news presenter. thank you very, presenter. we thank you very, very and is very much. and firstly, is britain still a christian country ? country? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> britain is still a christian country. britain has always been a christian since a christian country ever since the around . even the faith was around. even before augustine came over before saint augustine came over to this isles, we saw celts. we saw people up in iona, and we saw people up in iona, and we saw people up in iona, and we saw people coming over from europe to the faith. this saw people coming over from eurc always the faith. this saw people coming over from eurcalways been he faith. this saw people coming over from eurcalways been at faith. this saw people coming over from eurcalways been a christian is has always been a christian country. will be. it country. it always will be. it was on christian was built on christian foundations people foundations as much as people who call themselves woke or call themselves liberal would want to remove this country, remove christ from this country, they without they cannot do so without changing what it means to be english. >> yeah, but why do you think, then, that three quarters supposedly of the church of england bigwigs think that that it isn't a christian country anymore? calvin oh, hello, rebecca. >> i think the problem there is that the priests have forgotten what their job is. they if they think that this is no longer a christian country, their job should be to be out there evangelising, be out there, evangelising, to be out there,

proselytising, be out there, proselytising, to be out there, saving for christ. if they saving souls for christ. if they truly that the way truly believe that the only way to is through baptism, to be saved is through baptism, in holy spirit, in the name in the holy spirit, in the name of then they should of the trinity, then they should be doing that to as many be out doing that to as many people possible. not saying, people as possible. not saying, on longer oh no, we're no longer a christian country. need to christian country. we need to adapt norms. that is adapt to social norms. that is the opposite of their job. yes and as calvin and indeed, and as calvin astutely recognised rebecca and indeed, and as calvin astut

that that they live their that they that they live their lives particularly to do lives with, particularly to do with inclusion, with tolerance and inclusion, are with the are not consistent with the teachings a lot of teachings that a lot of christian people would say were in the bible and similar. but there's also a flip side to that, which is that a lot of muslim friends and a lot of jewish friends who have always been part of the religion because always of because it's always been part of their wasn't part of their life. it wasn't part of their life. it wasn't part of their and we also do a their culture. and we also do a bad job in this country of raising people christianity raising people in christianity in that like it's in a way that feels like it's part your identity. so we've part of your identity. so we've kind both sides, kind of failed on both sides, which the majority of which is why the majority of people country don't people in this country don't identify as christian. >> okay. calvin, you think >> okay. calvin, do you think it's maybe because, you know, christianity british it's maybe because, you know, crmaybety british it's maybe because, you know, crmaybe seen british it's maybe because, you know, crmaybe seen as british it's maybe because, you know, crmaybe seen as beingritish it's maybe because, you know, crmaybe seen as being a ish it's maybe because, you know, crmaybe seen as being a bit is maybe seen as being a bit shameful the moment ? shameful at the moment? >> liberal elite types , the >> liberal elite types, the nonh >> liberal elite types, the north london types , no offence, north london types, no offence, rebecca, who kind of steer the rest of us kind of denigrate anything that is british and anything that is british and anything that is christian and anything that is christian and anything that's foreign and exotic is to be celebrated. but anything british christian anything british and christian is i think christianity is >> i think christianity is foreign exotic. foreign and exotic. calvin christianity fundamentally christianity is fundamentally

foreign. british. it's foreign. it's not british. it's not from here. it is british. >> that's like saying tea is not british because we didn't invent it. it's part of culture, it. it's part of our culture, part our society. in fact, it part of our society. in fact, it helped society. these helped build our society. these people this this is a people this is a this is a patronising form of racism. say it's not british it it's not british because it wasn't here. wasn't originated from here. that's correct . that's absolutely correct. there's british there's nothing more british than faith. than the christian faith. there's nothing more british than of tea. we didn't than a cup of tea. we didn't have to invent it for it to become british. problem become british. but the problem here church is here is that the church is saying, how do we become saying, look, how do we become more relevant? we need more relevant? okay? so we need to gay marriage. we need to accept gay marriage. we need to accept gay marriage. we need to accept gay marriage. we need to accept sex outside of marriage. need to accept marriage. we need to accept women's and women's ordinations. and that's what of poll what the results of this poll have they do that, have shown. but if they do that, they're no longer sticking to they're no longer sticking to the they're the good book. therefore they're no the christian no longer teaching the christian faith. they are faith. therefore they are becoming they're no becoming the world. they're no different from the world. so what is the. >> rebecca i think he's got a point there because with respect, i mean, the muslim religion absolutely not religion is absolutely not modernising to modernising when it comes to things rights, things like gay rights, etcetera. is etcetera. and yet that is massively on increase in massively on the increase in britain. it can't just britain. so surely it can't just be that people are looking at christianity thinking that's christianity and thinking that's

not modern world. >> well, no, i think it's both . >> well, no, i think it's both. i think that it is neither i think it's that it is neither relevant enough nor it is relevant enough nor and it is also relevant . so it doesn't also too relevant. so it doesn't have the thing that islam has, which and is which is unchangeable and it is solid and it's reliable and it is fuel . a&e father and your is fuel. a&e father and your great grandfather it will great grandfather what it will for great grandchildren. great grandfather what it will for a great grandchildren. great grandfather what it will for a lot great grandchildren. great grandfather what it will for a lot of reat grandchildren. great grandfather what it will for a lot of religions,ichildren. also a lot of religions, particularly islam lots of particularly islam, but lots of them have real focus the them have a real focus on the family having of family and having lots of children. christianity moved children. christianity has moved away has tried away from that and has tried to kind move the times and kind of move with the times and be like, it's cool. i'm a trendy vicar, i've got a guitar, but also gayness kind of bad, kind of there's of not bad. there's an inconsistency in it, which people up on and feel people pick up on and feel uncomfortable with. actually, realistically, going realistically, if we're going to be better off be religious, you're better off with line catholic. with the hard line catholic. lots nice and whistles. lots of nice bells and whistles. you you stand with you know where you stand with that? man, this kind of that? oh, man, this kind of abortions may be okay, but abortions may be okay, but abortions not okay. that abortions may be okay, but abortio people not okay. that abortions may be okay, but abortio people feel,t okay. that abortions may be okay, but abortio people feel, you ay. that abortions may be okay, but abortio people feel, you know, it abortions may be okay, but abortio people feel, you know, but makes people feel, you know, but you know what else you know, you know what else i think you know. >> you know what else i think it is, can is, calvin, is that you can offend christians and get away with it. and i think that weakens it. >> it does. and i think rebecca

is right in that in that christians to stay to christians have to stay true to the faith moment we water it the faith the moment we water it down order to be more down in order to be more acceptable people around down in order to be more ac> well, n >> well, rebecca, i put it i put it to you that i put it to you that christianity may be can't stick guns because stick to its guns because people, i say it like people, dare i say it like yourself, might try to tear it down way that wouldn't down in a way that you wouldn't have to do for the have the guts to do for the muslim faith. >> don't believe that anybody >> i don't believe that anybody in any religion of any religious ilk be in a position of ilk should be in a position of power religion is power if their religion is informing how they make decisions. country informing how they make decisiorvote country informing how they make decisiorvote for country informing how they make decisiorvote for any country informing how they make decisiorvote for any particular doesn't vote for any particular religion and therefore it shouldn't part policy. the shouldn't be part of policy. the only time i would tear somebody shouldn't be part of policy. the only tforz i would tear somebody shouldn't be part of policy. the only tfor being, ld tear somebody shouldn't be part of policy. the only tfor being, for ear somebody shouldn't be part of policy. the only tfor being, for instance,3ody down for being, for instance, anti—choice i anti—choice and i wouldn't i would with somebody would struggle with somebody being anti—choice. i find it a really view. calvin

really uncomfy view. but calvin is my friend, calvin is not pro—choice. it is perfectly possible. when possible. what my issue is when people are in positions of power, i absolutely will power, then i absolutely will try someone down try and tear someone down because is inalienable because it is an inalienable right for two men to right in law for two men to marry. a woman to have an marry. for a woman to have an abortion. that has to remain abortion. and that has to remain the truth. >> calvin, do you foresee >> okay. calvin, do you foresee a country where a time in this country where christianity actually a christianity is actually just a complete minority ? complete and utter minority? >> see a time when the >> no. i see a time when the church of england is in a minority and the church of england is the way out. but england is on the way out. but this is an opportunity for the catholic church for the catholic church and for the orthodox step orthodox church actually to step forward adhere forward and say we still adhere to the faith. we are here for you. christ loves you. this is what christ taught us. follow the truth, the the way he is, the truth, the way the life. and that is way in the life. and that is a good thing. if the christian churches come together and churches can come together and do church of do that whilst the church of england that's a good england dies, that's a good thing thing for the country. i think refind our faith think we will refind our faith as a christian country. we will remain a christian country. >> you think there >> rebecca do you think there would any problem would be any problem with britain, becoming britain, say, becoming a majority britain, say, becoming a ma_i rity britain, say, becoming a ma_i don't don't want >> i don't want i don't want britain to be a majority, any

religion country. i don't want britain to be governed by religion. very religion. i think that's very dangerous that dangerous because it means that any we pick, any any religion we pick, there'll be a good number of people who feel really upset about think it's about it. and i think it's interesting. you have to have a set of values. spain, italy, our values, they are absolutely culturally catholic, they values, they are absolutely cultliterallyatholic, they values, they are absolutely cultliterally secular. they are literally secular. and i think the most think that's got to be the most sensible way of doing it. >> right. well, both of you, >> all right. well, both of you, i've enjoyed i've thoroughly enjoyed that more culturally catholic then it's right. it's become a right. >> if it means good >> well, if it means good primary schools and nice nice churches, i'm on board with that. yes, yes. that. but yes, yes. >> do it. agreed. >> let's do it. okay. agreed. >> let's do it. okay. agreed. >> right. of you, thank >> all right. both of you, thank you very much. thank you very, very really enjoyed that very much. i really enjoyed that discussion rebecca read, discussion there. rebecca read, of course, all broadcaster of course, all the broadcaster and his very own calvin and gb news his very own calvin robinson. more robinson. right okay. loads more still between now and still to come between now and the this hour. fact, the end of this hour. in fact, in a moment, we'll be in just a moment, we'll be discussing the vandalism to the ulez cameras well. yes, ulez cameras as well. yes, that's of them have that's right. loads of them have been out. course, we been knocked out. of course, we couldn't condone such a thing. but top that, anyone but also on top of that, anyone who at facing a fine who was looking at facing a fine by to clock that by not being able to clock that ulez actually a thing ulez was actually a thing yesterday. apparently there

might some clemency, might be some kind of clemency, a amnesty for you. a bit of an amnesty for you. i'll you in all the i'll be filling you in all the details very shortly. patrick christys britain's news

>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . right. news is. right. >> welcome back. now, yesterday i was in bromley and heard a lot of opposition to say the least, to the ulez expansion to all london boroughs, but some anti ulez vigilantes have repeatedly vandalised the detection cameras

in recent months in protest of the road charging scheme. but transport for london has vowed that such behaviour will not stop the schemes expansion now. peter bleksley , a former peter bleksley, a former metropolitan police detective, joins me live this afternoon . joins me live this afternoon. peter, thank you very much. and yeah, tricky one this really because the amount of vandalism to these cameras is pretty vast. >> yeah , well, the protesters >> yeah, well, the protesters were one of whom has been ringing me fairly constantly, just to say they're not giving up. >> they're not going away and don't think for a moment i'm condoning their behaviour because i'm not. >> but this particular quite significant voice within the protest is saying we're just going to keep going. so how this is going to resolve itself, i don't quite know. but with regards to the whole ulez situation, what we've got is on one hand we've got people saying this is about particulates and pollution and then on the other hand we've got people saying, no, it isn't. this is about politics, power notes and even

poverty. and of course, smack bangin poverty. and of course, smack bang in the middle of the debate are the metropolitan police who are the metropolitan police who are dealing with hundreds of cases of criminal damage at and have they got the resources ? have they got the resources? well, they're going to have to find them, but they're being used almost. it could be construed as as a political pawn , because this is sadiq khan's brainchild , the ulez expansion. brainchild, the ulez expansion. and he's been so vocal about it that he's now got his police service because let's face it, he's the police and crime commissioner for london, almost doing his bidding by investigating offences that it could be argued he has caused . could be argued he has caused. >> yeah, well, i mean that is an interesting one, isn't it really, because the police are now having to do his bidding and the public are saying, well, we don't want you to. >> yeah. especially in outer london boroughs. you saw the opposition the extension. yes opposition to the extension. yes today in bromley. >> yeah, i live in outer london. >> yeah, i live in outer london. >> we actually had to. sorry to

interrupt. actually to by interrupt. we actually had to by and people from and large, import people from other areas to express their support for it yesterday, which i thought was quite funny. >> but crossing the border. >> but crossing the border. >> yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> into the ulez expansion zone . yeah. yeah, people are very , >> but yeah, people are very, very angry and we've seen already that protesters have already that the protesters have been pretty inventive about how they're damaging the cameras. there's been the pretty brutal ones where they get an angle gnnder ones where they get an angle grinder and cut in half . grinder and cut it in half. >> you have some less subtle than others, aren't with than others, aren't they, with it? and then, of course, there's >> and then, of course, there's been the painting of them with this paint that the this red paint that renders the cameras useless, i cameras pretty useless, as i understand been understand it, there's been stickers, been hoods stickers, there's been hoods over for want of a better over them for want of a better expression. and of course , the expression. and of course, the out out damage and removal out and out damage and removal of them. this whole story shows no of going away anytime soon. >> no, but look, another one that doesn't and i'm pleased to get on to talk about this as get you on to talk about this as well, kind of partial well, was a kind of partial victory that we've victory for something that we've been calling here at gb news been calling for here at gb news since lucy letby refused to come up to hear a sentencing in the

victim statement. so what victim impact statement. so what the today, the government has said today, although not put although they've not put a timeline on actually bringing this fruition , which i this into fruition, which i think is important to mention , think is important to mention, they're going to try to force people to come up to the dock to hear their sentencing. a victim impact statement, that's they're going to say that people can use reasonable force to bring them there they're going to add a there and they're going to add a couple on to their couple of years on to their sentence if they don't it, sentence if they don't do it, we've got a petition on it at the moment. gbnews.com forward slash killers slash justice to make killers face what you face real justice. what do you make what heard today make of what we've heard today in principle, of course i fully support notion support the notion that criminals oils when convicted, should be in court to hear their punishment being handed down to them. >> that is fundamental. but of course the repugnant letby has joined a growing list of cowardly and vile criminals who have refused to go into court , have refused to go into court, and it is unacceptable . however, and it is unacceptable. however, there are a lot of practicalities that are going to be difficult. how are court

staff physically going to get someone from the cells underground up into the courtroom room when they don't want to go ? or are they going to want to go? or are they going to physically restrain them? it can take a lot of people to physically restrain one person. yeah are they going to put them in straight jackets? are they going to tie them to a gurney, for example , and then take them for example, and then take them almost stretcher like up the stairs? are they going to gag them so that they can't shout, scream, be abusive and otherwise disrupt the court? imagine if they do all of that. who's going to get richer out of it? human rights lawyers, because they will be banging on the table saying , you can't do this. saying, you can't do this. >> this is why i'm saying they've got to instead of using they've got to instead of using the force side of it, they've got to focus more on incentivise the criminals to do it themselves. so saying, look, we won't give you any phone calls, we let you have any we won't let you have any privileges etcetera, privileges in prison, etcetera, if refuse to do it because if you refuse to do it because then you're going to stare down then you're going to stare down the barrel of a lifetime,

especially as well. if it is a whole life of having an whole life tariff of having an incredibly in incredibly miserable time in prison you don't prison and that way you don't have drag them into the dock have to drag them into the dock kicking and screaming in line. the of a human the pockets of a human rights lawyer. we're lawyer. but, peter, we're gonna have it there. i'm have to leave it there. i'm afraid. thank you very, very much coming in. as always. much for coming in. as always. peter there, former peter bleksley there, the former metropolitan police detective and legend as well. and full time legend as well. loads bring you the loads more to bring you in the next hour. christys here next hour. patrick christys here on i'm going to be on gb news. i'm going to be talking, of course, more a little bit about what we're discussing in terms of the discussing there in terms of the actual stuff. i'm also actual crime stuff. but i'm also going be revealing what going to be revealing what prince now continued prince harry has now continued to give the royal family a little bit of kicking little bit of a kicking and there's coming there's much, much more coming your way. so make sure you stay tuned. patrick christys gb news, britain's channel. britain's news channel. >> temperatures rising, boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar. of weather solar. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello again . it's luke miall >> hello again. it's luke miall from the met office with your gb news weather forecast as we head through this evening. those showers that we've had today will to away will tend to ease away clear spells across parts and spells across many parts and turning quite chilly out there

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years. during the visit, mr cleverly held face to face talks with vice president han geng and told broadcasters the uk is clear eyed that china will not change overnight. mr cleverly also said it's important to maintain regular dialogue as we seek to influence the country . seek to influence the country. the trip has been met with criticism from some tory mps who want a tougher stance against beijing . a former tory party beijing. a former tory party leader, sir iain duncan smith, told us the government need to decide what it wants from china i >> -- >> so this is emma >> so this is the real problem. what are we going over for? is it more business? is it more trade with them or is it to tell them that unless they get their act together and stop abusing people using slave labour, etcetera, then we won't trade with them . but we're not doing with them. but we're not doing any of that . any of that. >> met commissioner, sir >> met police commissioner, sir mark rowley has welcomed government plans to ban zombie style knives . according to the style knives. according to the home office . works under home office. works under underway to increase the maximum sentence for their importation , sentence for their importation, manufacture possession and sale

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people. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaken digital radio and on your smart speaker. by saying play gb news now it's back to . patrick now it's back to. patrick >> welcome back. now look , let's >> welcome back. now look, let's start with the government's announcement that it's to give police new powers to seize weapons like so—called zombie knives and machetes . well, the knives and machetes. well, the clampdown on knife crime does come after images emerge from the weekend's notting hill carnival , which shows some huge carnival, which shows some huge knives being wielded. eight people were sadly stabbed during the event. people seriously the event. two people seriously injured , injured. i'm going to injured, injured. i'm going to speak now to gaynor bell, who is an anti knife crime campaigner after her son, stefan was stabbed to death in 2000. thank you very much for joining me. great to have you on the show. so i just wanted your views really as to whether or not you think enough is being done to clamp down on knife crime. >> you were saying all the time, aren't there this government that you know what they're

doing, it never, ever happens. they want to listen to real people, these zombie knives, two years for carrying them. it's not enough. you know , there's not enough. you know, there's not enough. you know, there's not a deterrent out there . they not a deterrent out there. they go into prison, you know , for go into prison, you know, for two years. they have a nice time. it's not a deterrent. they need a deterrent. and, you know, all weapons should be criminalised and all weapons should you know, they should go to prison for it. >> i mean, you've hit the nail on the head straight off the bat there, really, which is that apparently this is something like the seventh time that the government has said that they're going clamp on zombie going to clamp down on zombie knives machetes and then. knives and machetes and then. yeah so you're yeah two years. so if you're caught just one of caught not just with one of these things, you're caught these things, if you're caught making which making a machete, which you'd have very unlucky, by the have to get very unlucky, by the way, be caught in way, to actually be caught in the act of making a machete, wouldn't then two years wouldn't you? but then two years in maximum, which in prison as a maximum, which probably year, which probably means one year, which probably means one year, which probably the probably means six months by the time you've, you know, if time that you've, you know, if it's a offence, which as it's a first offence, which as you not a deterrent, is you said, is not a deterrent, is it ? it? >> not. not at all a

>> no, it's not. not at all a deterrent. you know, they want to listen to i've been doing anti probably anti knife crime now probably for years and the government for 20 years and the government need to get right . you know they need to get right. you know they give out money all this give out money for all this campaigning for education but they're not just not doing it right. they are not doing it right. they are not doing it right . right. >> where does it have to come from, though, really? because the government can obviously say, know, we are say, look, you know, we are going to come down hard on this. they could the prison they could increase the prison sentences. do sentences. they could do whatever. but i just wonder whether or not it's got to be a bit community led. gaynor, bit more community led. gaynor, whether certain people whether or not certain people have out and say, have got to come out and say, look, you know, please don't carry don't go carry knives. don't don't go around doing this kind stuff. around doing this kind of stuff. does have come from the does it have to come from the pubuc does it have to come from the public opposed to our public as opposed to our politicians ins? the politicians ins? i think the pubuc politicians ins? i think the public needs up and say public needs to stand up and say enough enough. public needs to stand up and say enoyou enough. public needs to stand up and say enoyou know, ugh. public needs to stand up and say enoyou know, for|. public needs to stand up and say enoyou know, for instance, the >> you know, for instance, the killer of my son. right he went in prison. he actually killed my son. he carried a knife . he's son. he carried a knife. he's now back in prison for breaking his licence. i've got to go back to a parole board. sorry just going off the subject. but he

won't face me. laws are all won't face me. the laws are all wrong . all wrong. carrying wrong. all wrong. carrying knives is just a no no. i used to do a lot of program education in, you know, and giving them real scenario of how it affects not just me, you know , myself, not just me, you know, myself, but their families . it's got to but their families. it's got to get through to them in education nation, you know, go into prison. as you said, two years, six months. they'll have a, you know, gymnasium . it's not know, gymnasium. it's not a deterrent to them at all. we've got to clamp down really hard. the knife crime is getting worse and worse . and, you know, the and worse. and, you know, the government have got to stand up and wake up . and wake up. >> okay. all right. and look, if it's all right with with with you, gaynor, if it's not too much trouble, really, i mean, would you mind just. just reminding us what happened to your son, just to give a bit of context as to, you know, the real life impact of knife crime? okay >> he was sitting in an office. people always think, you know,

when someone's killed with a knife, they're in a bad place. it doesn't you know, it's happening to just innocent people at and he was sitting in an office and an employee, colin needle came in from behind and stabbed him in the back, cowardly stabbed him in the back and when i went to court , you and when i went to court, you know, going on about the statements and how it affects you, i remember doing things have changed a lot since i went to court. i remember writing the statement and saying to the judge, i bet you haven't read this. and he turned around and said, yes, i have as well. he just walked course , put just walked out. of course, put his up. then he was on day his thumb up. then he was on day release and got a girl pregnant. i knew he'd get in trouble again and i'd heard that he's been violent , been taken back in. violent, been taken back in. he's been in probably forjust over a year and got another parole hearing, which again, he will three times. he hasn't faced me and he won't face me again . but the effect it's had again. but the effect it's had the effect that i had a four

year old grandson at the time and he tried to hang himself because he wanted to be with his dad. you know, i have probably supported hundreds of people. i can tell you hundreds of stories , you know, and the reason why young people take knives out just very quickly was working with probation and a young boy had been caught with a knife. he hadnt had been caught with a knife. he hadn't used it. he'd just been pulled in for it. and he had to do some probation work . and i do some probation work. and i said to him, why did you go out with a knife? he pulled his pants down. he had a slash on his backside, and he said somebody tried to steal my bike. so i took knife to so i took my knife to off protection and he's been pulled in, you know , people put knives in, you know, people put knives down, grids with strings on them . the police have got to clamp not so much the police, they they only they have their hands tied. they can only do so much. the government have got to wake up. >> gaynor, thank you very much for coming on and explaining, really, i think hammering home the true effects of knife crime

and giving us your views on it. it's going to bell there. who is an anti knife crime campaign after her son stefan as you were heanng after her son stefan as you were hearing there was suddenly stabbed to death in 2000. now look, this just come the look, this just come off the back government back of the government today talking do talking about wanting to do a bit to clamp down on bit more to clamp down on machetes zombie and machetes and zombie knives and some quite disturbing some of those quite disturbing images we saw at notting images that we saw at notting hill carnival. i've been hill carnival. now, i've been monitoring twitter reaction hill carnival. now, i've been my nottingi twitter reaction hill carnival. now, i've been m

well, to be honest with you. but i'll you were quite vocal i'll be you you were quite vocal about on twitter. could you about this on twitter. could you just contextualise for us just contextualise this for us then? saying really then? you were saying really that you think it's you you would to obviously would like people to obviously stop knives. think would like people to obviously stop it's knives. think would like people to obviously stop it's it knives. think would like people to obviously stop it's it reflectses. think would like people to obviously stop it's it reflects badly think would like people to obviously stop it's it reflects badly what: that it's it reflects badly what on black community were on on the black community were saying those on on the black community were sayin so those on on the black community were sayin so my those on on the black community were sayin so my point those on on the black community were sayin so my point was those on on the black community were sayin so my point was that)se on on the black community were sayin so my point was that the lines so my point was that the crime which takes place at carnival is completely unacceptable. >> you know , a very small >> you know, a very small minority of people , of the minority of people, of the 2 million people, over 2 million people that go to carnival across the bank holiday weekend every august in london, in notting hill, just a handful of people, 275 people were arrested out of 2 million. >> i think there were eight stabbings out of 2 million. a number of other incidents which led to police being hospitalised . and every single incident is too many incidents for me . but too many incidents for me. but the simple point that i was making is that it is a very small minority of people who are doing this anti—social behaviour and we need to be talking about that in context. properly so

we're not suggesting that all 2 million people that go to carnival are taking part in scenes like the scenes that you are seeing here and causing crime and havoc on the streets of london. the majority of the people that go to carnival are law abiding citizens celebrating the summer sun at the end of august . august. >> and can i bring you in now? do you find it slightly disheartening when you do see the images and the pictures of people you know, wielding the machetes? they're at notting hill carnival what hill carnival on what is supposed to be, know, supposed to be, you know, a celebration of a particular type of culture, you know, and do you think that does lot to damage think that does a lot to damage the reputation maybe of communities? >> are you afraid to me , yes. >> are you afraid to me, yes. >> are you afraid to me, yes. >> yes, yes. >>- >> yes, yes. >> sorry . >> sorry. >> sorry. >> absolutely . and the simple >> absolutely. and the simple fact is that it's a cultural event that's supposed to be our icon event. >> and it saddens me as a person who grew up around carnival having my own one of the biggest children bands there for many years to find that every year the focus instead of being on

the focus instead of being on the beauty of the costumes and the beauty of the costumes and the flamboyancy of everything else that goes on there, we're concentrating on the violence that's done by a minority. my thing is just simply this. it's unacceptable for anyone to come to such an event or any in a pubuc to such an event or any in a public space and produce such horrendous knives, such a horrendous knives, such a horrendous not only produce it, but willing to use it. and i feel at the end of the day, they need to be they need to be kind of tracked down and brought to book and made an example of because all too often i give it to the police. they can go out there and they can make that arrest. but when it gets to the court, by the time the conviction comes through, it's either they've a hard luck either they've got a hard luck story about some kind of emotional trauma that they've suffered, and therefore they get a very seldom go to prison for this time. and i feel that they need to go to prison for a lot longer than what's currently

being the case. so they're talking about having a new law to knives off our streets to take knives off our streets and if you talk about machetes, i know back in the west indies, the caribbean, we use machetes for practical purposes. and so i feel at the end of the day to get a youngster can take a knife for any reason at the kitchen and use it for that purpose. so therefore, i think we've got to be mindful when we're going down saying we're going to put a ban on this, then i've to think on this, then i've got to think that there's practical that there's other practical use. zombie and rambo knives, of course, it's only killing that can be done with that or harming people that needs to be taken off. but as i said, yeah, there's another use for machetes i >> absolutely. and alby, what do you think of the general reaction to this? because it is i think it's been a bad thing that has maybe played into the hands of certain people who were keen to push racial tropes. i think when you see things like that going on at notting hill, carnival, what carnival, etcetera, what are your that ? your views on that? >> i mean, it's absolutely

appalling . appalling. >> one thing i would say to these mostly young men who are carrying knives, ruining carrying these knives, ruining carnival for everyone, is that these young men are doing more damage, in my opinion, to the black british community than any white person ever has, because essentially their actions , these essentially their actions, these videos, which are taken at events like carnival of them, break the law and causing havoc , are then plastered on places like twitter. and then it just makes it just emboldens the real racists in society to come out and say, well, look, this is what this is what black people are doing at that big cultural event when the vast, vast, vast majority of black people find the small incidents that happened at carnival with a small number of people that were involved them, absolutely involved in them, absolutely appalling . and those young men appalling. and those young men that that that kind of that think that that kind of behaviour acceptable are behaviour is acceptable are enemies black enemies to the black british community. enemies to the black british communi ken , what do you make >> well, ken, what do you make of that then? now he's right. >> i also think about this . >> and i also think about this. we're campaigning for more intelligent search. so intelligent stop and search. so it difficult for it makes it much difficult for people me and me in

people like me and it puts me in a compromising position when we're to out there, we're trying to out there, trying responsive , trying to get more responsive, stop and search. but then when they're seen pictures of these young men and generally black young men and generally black young men and generally black young men wielding such terrifying weapons, you know , in terrifying weapons, you know, in impunity. so i'm saying to you guys, you know, stop it. put your knife down. it's unacceptable what you're doing , unacceptable what you're doing, whether it's carnival or on the streets of london. it's unacceptable for you to come out with your trauma and harming people on our streets. >> i was going to ask you a bit about that, because i know that you're very vocal. i completely understand it as well when you're talking about stop and search think there search and you think that there are racial undertones to that, etcetera, and you want to see more as more monitoring of that. and as you've there, you've alluded to there, unfortunately, then you end up seeing pictures plastered seeing these pictures plastered over you over everywhere. and so are you are you walking a bit of a tightrope at the minute with this, tightrope at the minute with thisi won't say walking >> i won't say walking a tightrope because we still need to stop and search done to have stop and search done in a balanced and a fair and balanced and equitable way . that

a fair and balanced and equitable way. that means that, you know, we've got to stick to what they call the peelian nine principle and also restorative of justice principle , which is of justice principle, which is about showing respect and being and being integrity, staying with your integrity . obe so that with your integrity. obe so that doesn't stop me from actually still pushing for the rights around stop and search because we know that nine times nine out of ten stop and search lead to no further action. in many cases . but it can lead to a young person being stopped and scarred from that bad experience. >> okay. and i'll be yeah, i'll just get you to respond to that. really. i mean, a lot of people might look at what we see at things notting hill, things like notting hill, carnival, for example, and actually like actually call for things like more and search, which more stop and search, which again could then up turn again could then end up in turn damaging even damaging race relations even more the police and the more between the police and the black community. cetera. it black community. et cetera. it is a minefield at the is a bit of a minefield at the moment, it? i think. moment, isn't it? i think. >> no, i don't think it's a minefield at all. patrick, we need get these knives off the need to get these knives off the streets and that is to going require perhaps more

require maybe, perhaps even more stop but smart stop and search. but smart intelligence stop and search intelligence led stop and search using which less using techniques which are less invasive things invasive of. one of the things that talks about, the that susan hall talks about, the conservative candidate the conservative candidate for the mayor of london next year is that to introduce that she wants to introduce these wands these knife detection wands so that and search that actually stop and search can in a much less can happen in a much less invasive wouldn't be invasive way. this wouldn't be police patting young black police patting down young black men the streets. this would men on the streets. this would be simple like you get in be a simple wand like you get in the airports would be able the airports that would be able to or not to track whether or not someone's metal someone's carrying a large metal knife. are knife. you know, there are clever and innovative ways that we use stop and search. but we can use stop and search. but i support policy of stop and i support the policy of stop and search. we've got get these search. we've got to get these knives the streets. we've knives off the streets. we've got safer. got to make london safer. >> well, you, thank you >> well, both of you, thank you very, much. i've thoroughly very, very much. i've thoroughly enjoyed having that chat. actually. quite actually. we covered a quite a range of different topics there, actually. we covered a quite a ranggbyf different topics there, actually. we covered a quite a ranggb newszrent topics there, actually. we covered a quite a ranggb news presenters there, actually. we covered a quite a ranggb news presenter albie e, sir. gb news presenter albie amankona haringey's amankona and chair of haringey's independent search independent stop and search monitoring and independent stop and search nthink ring and independent stop and search nthink it's and independent stop and search nthink it's can and independent stop and search nthink it's can i and independent stop and search nthink it's can i just and independent stop and search nthink it's can i just say and independent stop and search nthink it's can i just say as and i think it's can i just say as well, i think that's one of the things that news does things that gb news does particularly actually, particularly well actually, which is be able to have difficult conversations like that and have them honestly and openly. so thank you very much both you watching both of you. you are watching and me. patrick

and listening to me. patrick christie on gb news. coming up, we'll discussing news we'll be discussing gb news favourites. yes prince harry, who take yet another who appears to take yet another jab royal family this jab at the royal family in this latest documentary. this latest netflix documentary. this and to

people's channel. britain's news . channel >> prince harry's new netflix documentary, heart of invictus, has been released today and the documentary follows. six athletes competing in the 2022 invictus games. we'll have a little look at the trailer .

little look at the trailer. >> it is here at the invictus games that you realise is whatever you carry . it was the whatever you carry. it was the springboard that propelled you to the next level . to the next level. >> yes , but prince harry also >> yes, but prince harry also couldn't resist a little pop at the royal family during this documentary on netflix. and here to discuss all of this is royal correspondent michael cole . correspondent michael cole. michael, thank you very, very much. bit of a kind of prince harry summed up in a nutshell here, really capable of really good very things good stuff, very worthy things like games and in like the invictus games and in some keeping the spotlight some ways keeping the spotlight off documentary off himself. this documentary following around several athletes, also not athletes, but then also not being able to miss an opportunity to stick it to the royal family over not doing enough protect his his mental enough to protect his his mental health. do you of all health. what do you make of all of this? health. what do you make of all of twell, you know , on your >> well, you know, on your program, you always want to be fair. and said it. fair. and you've said it. invictus games is a brilliant concept . it needed to be done. concept. it needed to be done. >> and he did it back in 2014.

>> and he did it back in 2014. >> that's when he founded the invictus games. that >> that's when he founded the invictus games . that was, of invictus games. that was, of course, before for meghan. that's when he was a happy fellow, the happy prince, always clowning around on the running track with people like usain bolt and others. and generally speaking , doing what a royal speaking, doing what a royal prince should do. now, of course , he's stripped of his titles, his ranks, his patronages , and his ranks, his patronages, and he's still heading up the games. and he will be, as you've intimated in dusseldorf . on the intimated in dusseldorf. on the 9th of september for this eight day games. it's a great shame because the story of the six athletes featured are worth featuring . they are good people. featuring. they are good people. they're doing brilliant things. they've come through difficulties and there's no need for these gratuit comments. everybody knows what he thinks. everybody knows what he thinks. everybody knows what he thinks. everybody knows what he feels , everybody knows what he feels, knows, and i'm quite sure he will be making that very clear. and of course, if he doesn't, his wife is joining him in

dusseldorf . she's not coming to dusseldorf. she's not coming to britain beforehand when he's doing a thing with wellchild and another another brilliant enterprise prize that he entered into before he got married. but she will be in dusseldorf and perhaps she will also take the opportunity to make a veiled or not so veiled comment which will reflect on his past. now he ought to know better than anybody. he served two tours of duty in afghanistan. darn that. everybody has their cross to bean everybody has their cross to bear. we all have our problems in life. and compared with the people who are featured in that film, these are very minimal things. so whatever he had in the past, he had to put that into and if he did, into context. and if he did, i think we'd all breathe a sigh of relief because it would show that perhaps sense is that perhaps good sense is dawning on he gets for the fact that he's done two tours of afghanistan and got involved with things like the invictus games . yeah, well it's that's games. yeah, well it's that's what a royal prince should be doing. that's the greatest pity of all this. patrick these are

the things that he should be doing. and the royal family needs people like him. they're running a little bit low on on talent at the moment. and he could be fulfilling a very useful role within the royal family, within the royal the ranks of the military. he's made for the job. he served , the time for the job. he served, the time he's done. he's served with distinction. he did what he should . he used to trade over should. he used to trade over the house where i'm sitting to you now in his helicopter apache before going out to afghanistan. nobody would deny him any of that. but certainly the things that. but certainly the things that have happened since are deplorable and completely egregious. and unnecessary. i mean, a six part television series attacking members of his royal family and the worst thing about it all, from the point of view of the king and the prince of wales, is that he said some very unkind and cruel things about their wives. well most men can put up with insults . and my can put up with insults. and my goodness, i know i've been insulted we can cope insulted by experts. we can cope with but what men do not with that. but what men do not

like ever is for their wives to be criticised unfairly and also for their driving ability to be criticised. those are the two things which are no nos. i think you'd agree . you'd agree. >> yeah. yeah. there you go. i suppose that's one way of putting on it, but i mean apparently meghan is going to be actually appearing at the invictus games. you alluded to that. i'm not sure if this can be true. even even for harry and meghan, the self—awareness has got to be too strong for this, which meghan really going which is, is meghan really going to be doing a talk on on courage and overcoming adversity to a load people who've been load of people who've been wounded in battle? >> amazing , wounded in battle? >> amazing, isn't it? but >> it's amazing, isn't it? but you see, they're living in a closed world in california. it's a very strange place. it's very rich and a wonderful state. but they do things differently there. they see things differently. mean in differently. they're mean in america. the american say, because of the continental drift , all the nuts roll to california. well, i don't know whether that's true, but they certainly are different . and as certainly are different. and as you say, self—aware business. there's not enough of it. i

mean, cannot they see the irony of that? i think, you know , in of that? i think, you know, in their case, less would certainly be more. we know where they're coming from. we know what they believe. we know what they think. i mean, a little less gas, foot, foot on the gas pedal would be welcomed by everyone . would be welcomed by everyone. there are stories that, you know, the prince may swing through britain on the way back after this eight day athletics and games meeting . and see his and games meeting. and see his his father . i and games meeting. and see his his father. i think the likelihood of that is between slim and none as as muhammad ali said on one occasion, no , no said on one occasion, no, no chance at the moment. and i don't think it'll be a long time. another blue moon , which time. another blue moon, which of course, we're having tonight, at least another few blue moons before his brother william ever forgives him, if indeed he can ever find it, to forgive him . ever find it, to forgive him. mean a prodigal son is always welcome home, but a great deal of abject apology is going to be

required before those fences can be properly mended. >> indeed . michael, thank you >> indeed. michael, thank you very much as ever. michael cole, the royal correspondent, reacting to the invictus games documentary, which is now available on netflix. and also as well, harry's comments in that quite barbed comments about the royal family not being there for him, help him with his for him, to help him with his mental health wake of his mental health in the wake of his return from afghanistan and, of course, mother's you course, his mother's death. you are patrick christys on are with me, patrick christys on gb anywhere gb news. don't go anywhere because latest war because up next, the latest war of this time fired of woke, this time fired fighters. yep, you heard that right. fire fighters. okay. they they basically are going to check your pronouns before they ask you if you're burning to death. apparently. i mean, this is just absolutely bonkers. what is just absolutely bonkers. what is our emergency is happening to our emergency services? is in the services? the clue is in the name emergency. but right now, as headlines . patrick thank as your headlines. patrick thank you and good afternoon. >> this is the latest from the newsroom. the prime minister says those hit by new ulez charges shouldn't expect any

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through this evening. those showers that we've had today will tend to ease away, clear spells parts spells across many parts and turning chilly out there. turning quite chilly out there. and that's all to this and that's all down to this ridge high pressure that's ridge of high pressure that's building overnight across the ridge of high pressure that's bui with overnight across the ridge of high pressure that's bui with low yvernight across the ridge of high pressure that's bui with low pressure across the ridge of high pressure that's bui with low pressure either the ridge of high pressure that's bui with low pressure either side uk with low pressure either side of that settles things of us. but that settles things down for the next 12 hours or so. a few showers to come for so. so a few showers to come for the next couple of hours, but they will fade away and then as you can see, starry skies across much of the country, allowing our temperatures really dip our temperatures to really dip away. begin to away. but they will begin to come across the south—west away. but they will begin to comeon across the south—west away. but they will begin to comeon in:ross the south—west away. but they will begin to comeon in the; the south—west away. but they will begin to comeon in the night;outh—west away. but they will begin to comeon in the night asth—west away. but they will begin to comeon in the night as we west away. but they will begin to comeon in the night as we see later on in the night as we see cloud rain pushing on the cloud and rain pushing on the doors of pembrokeshire and the far south—west of england by dawn. but as i say, 8 or 9 in towns and cities, cold than this in the countryside . but it's the in the countryside. but it's the focus is going to be the rain across the south—west through the morning. some heavy rain coming wales , central coming across wales, central southern england, and for northern ireland as well. that rain getting into the midlands by the middle part of the day to the of it, it the north and east of it, it stays dry. the sky turning a little bit hazy from time to

time, but some decent spells of sunshine temperatures the sunshine and temperatures in the sunshine and temperatures in the sunshine 21 degrees, sunshine still 20, 21 degrees, but and grey under but quite cool and grey under this cloud rain through the this cloud and rain through the day. running forward into day. now running forward into friday. most of rain will friday. most of that rain will push way through and then push its way through and then we'll a mixture sunshine. we'll see a mixture of sunshine. but some heavy showers breaking out the afternoon on out through the afternoon on friday. so these are your maximum temperatures as i say, some some sunshine , but some clouds, some sunshine, but also some heavy downpours to watch out for. by by a brighter outlook with boxt solar >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news now kent fire and rescue service have issued guidance to staff on inclusive language terms following so many other public institutions down a path of woke thought policing . thought policing. >> so yes, staff are now urged to embrace diversity and gender neutral language, even during emergency call outs with swapping he or she in favour of

they or them as part of the service's effort to recognise that everyone is unique and everyone has value , it says. everyone has value, it says. i mean everyone is unique and everyone does have value , but if everyone does have value, but if everyone's burning to death , you everyone's burning to death, you know, i think maybe that should be the priority with me now is toby young, general secretary of the free speech union. toby, thank you. i mean, this is just the latest example of isn't it, going on? i mean, right now a child could call kent police saying my house is on fire with my parents in it and they might just double check the gender of the parents before they send a fire engine. is that right? >> that seems to be what kent fire and rescues . fire and rescues. >> what's it called? >> what's it called? >> everyone's together. guidance seems to imply patrick. they talk about gender neutral language being more inclusive . language being more inclusive. lviv it's slightly odd though it seems to be taking include fusion to absurd lengths to alter the language that

firefighters use to accommodate a section of the population, which, according to the latest uk census, is now less than a quarter of 1. so according to the latest uk census, 0.26% of the latest uk census, 0.26% of the population of the uk identify as trans or non—binary. so it does seem a little odd to do in order to accommodate them , in order to make them feel included , make the other 99.74. included, make the other 99.74. you know, slightly confused as to what you're talking about most of the time. and actually, i think there are some serious issues connected with this, patrick. i mean, just imagine a firefighter is worried about someone burning to death in a burning building. they're going to go and risk their lives to save that person if their colleagues are forced to refer to that person as they in order to that person as they in order to be gender inclusive , because to be gender inclusive, because to be gender inclusive, because to refer to them as he or she would apparently be discriminatory or exclusionary , discriminatory or exclusionary,

the firefighter is going to think, oh, there's more than one person in that building, and they're to go in looking they're going to go in looking for they one, for two people. they find one, they out, they're going to they come out, they're going to go back in and look for the second person or the third person because they think they're of they're a plural numbers of people they could people in there and they could endanger life because the endanger their life because the language are language firefighters are being forced is unclear, so forced to use is so unclear, so baffling, incomprehensible. baffling, so incomprehensible. to 99% of the population. when you make a good point, though, this could actually literally cost lives and cost the lives of firemen and fire women and fire people and firefighters everywhere . everywhere. >> couldn't it really, if this indeed does happen? but i also just think it shows that instead of maybe being terrified of someone dying in a house fire, arguably now people are more terrified of misgendering somebody and i think speaks volumes about where we are as a society . society. >> yeah, it is very odd that various professions who are dedicated to keeping us all safe, not just the firefighters, but the police , blue light

but the police, blue light workers of every description and even the royal navy. the free speech union recently was alerted to the fact that the royal navy are being given all this trans inclusive guidance and expected to refer to people as they or them as well. it's like i think elon musk refers to it as a woke mind virus and it seems to have affected in particular, public service ses and in particular the emergency services. it is baffling, as you say, patrick, you'd think they'd have, you know , other things to have, you know, other things to prioritise, other than, you know, making sure that all staff use gender inclusive language. i mean, you know, and if they were doing a great job in other respects, i mean, you know, take the police, west yorkshire police supposedly , um, police supposedly, um, interviewed a woman, um, last week because she'd taken a picture of a sticker, a gender critical sticker, stuck on a pride notice, a notice about happy valley pride. you know, forget about pride month. pride is every month in happy valley. patrick and it was an event

taking place, think, last taking place, i think, last week. and she was she was she she photographed this sticker and yorkshire police and west yorkshire police tracked her down and they've recorded this as a non—crime hate incident. now, if you look at the rate at which the police, the west yorkshire police are solving burglar rings like it's something like 3% of burglaries are being solved in west yorkshire by west yorkshire police. why don't they focus a little bit more on policing our streets and forget about policing tweets? it's just policing our tweets? it's just it beggars belief, you it just beggars belief, you know, wasting their know, why are they wasting their time? they wasting time? why are they wasting police resources on this nonsense? i'm going to a bit nonsense? i'm going to go a bit off toby. off pace here, toby. >> you don't mind. but >> if you don't mind. but you mentioned about free mentioned there about the free speech. unions become speech. unions recently become aware something that the navy speech. unions recently become awa been something that the navy speech. unions recently become awa been involvedg that the navy speech. unions recently become awa been involved in.1at the navy speech. unions recently become awa been involved in. what; navy speech. unions recently become awa been involved in. what is, avy has been involved in. what is, do you think, the most bonkers thing that you've ever come across in relation stuff like this? >> oh, god. patrick where to start? mean , one of the start? i mean, one of the unenticing awaited developments of all this stuff was discovering recently that because of the trans inclusion in policies in schools whereby

if a child identifies as a member of the opposite sex staff and pupils are expected to respect that their self—definition , they're self—definition, they're supposed to use their gender pronouns, they're supposed to treat them if they're a biological boy girl, and biological boy as a girl, and vice versa . so that that has led vice versa. so that that has led to children identifying as cats and dogs in one case as as a hologram. i've heard stories about children identifying as horses or even inanimate vegetables and it sort of taking the trans inclusion guidance in schools to the kind of to its logical and absurd conclusion that was the most bizarre and unexpected result. i think of all this woke gobbledegook infecting the public sector children. and now you expect teachers are expected to respect children who self—identify as cabbages? yeah >> yeah, indeed. well yeah, no,

exactly. i mean , i do remember exactly. i mean, i do remember that one. i thought once when a kid was identifying as the moon, as well, and i just thought, good grief, what are we really taking this seriously? but they have do. toby, very have to do. toby, thank you very much. always absolute much. always an absolute pleasure, my good man, toby young general secretary pleasure, my good man, toby young free general secretary pleasure, my good man, toby young free speech al secretary pleasure, my good man, toby young free speech union.etary pleasure, my good man, toby young free speech union. right of the free speech union. right look, i've got loads of emails coming here. i'm to going go look, i've got loads of emails co aing here. i'm to going go look, i've got loads of emails co a couple ere. i'm to going go look, i've got loads of emails co a couple ofe. i'm to going go look, i've got loads of emails co a couple of them. 0 going go look, i've got loads of emails co a couple of them. thank; go look, i've got loads of emails co a couple of them. thank you to a couple of them. thank you very everybody been very much, everybody who's been getting touch, gb views getting in touch, gb views gbnews.com reaction gbnews.com at lots of reaction to apparently the to the fact that apparently the big the moment to cut big plan at the moment to cut down on machetes and zombie knives say that you will knives is to say that you will get two in prison. max um, get two years in prison. max um, if you're caught with a carry on now, if get five years in now, if you get five years in the army , problem solved. the the army, problem solved. the uk's soft touch. so jed uk's a soft touch. so jed solution to this is to make anybody who's carrying a zombie knife or a machete to go and do some military service . so it's some military service. so it's not necessarily the worst idea in the world. i suppose there is no justice in the uk . most of no justice in the uk. most of the police are lazy . just the police are lazy. just policing social media are not real life otherwise knife crime

wouldn't be a big problem . wouldn't be a big problem. that's from mike. i know a lot of police officers would refute that, mike, but yes , i wonder that, mike, but yes, i wonder whether or not police are inclined at some point to go for crimes that they know they can solve , i.e, you know, as solve, i.e, you know, as somebody said , something mean somebody said, something mean on twitter, whether or not, of course, that should a crime course, that should be a crime to with is another to begin with is another question entirely. vaiews@gbnews.com. yes , in vaiews@gbnews.com. but yes, in a moment i will be talking about the in the scandal the latest twist in the scandal rocking the footballing world. so jenni hermoso is this spanish footballer who got kissed on the lips by someone in the spanish football. their president . football. their president. right. but now, despite saying this wasn't consensual and all of this stuff, she's been caught laughing about it and it's all got a little bit messy. i mean, especially given the fact that this bloke's mum is now on hunger strike and saying she will die her son. it is one will die for her son. it is one of the most bonkers stories i've covered and that really is saying yeah, how saying something. but yeah, how has undermined ? the, has she been undermined? the, the lady here the spanish

footballer by showing a picture of her appearing to be laughing at situation immediately at the situation immediately after the event. patrick christys gb news britain's news

on gb news, the people's. channel >> welcome back. right. so michelle dewberry joins me now. up michelle dewberry joins me now. up next, we'll be dewbs & co. but up next, we'll be dewbs& co. but michelle, you've got a bit of a bee in your bonnet. >> oh, i have, yeah. >>— >> oh, i have, yeah. >> what is it? >> what is it? >> you know, that's i've

increasingly got bees in my bonnet days. i don't know bonnet these days. i don't know if it's a sign of midlife or something. do you think? i don't know get a little bit know if you get a little bit more grumpy the older you get. >> it might be the. >> i think it might be the. i think. i think i think it might be northern in you. i get be the northern in you. i get that sometimes things just that sometimes some things just just me and i just find just trigger me and i just find myself with you know, people myself with it. you know, people 90, myself with it. you know, people go, you are a of go, oh, you are a bit of a grumpy man. but anyway, go on. >> well, you know, honestly as well, is like a well, wide well, this is like a well, wide appeal tell you appeal because i'll tell you what love do this what i'd love to do on this channelis what i'd love to do on this channel is show more positive news. because a lot news. yeah. because a lot of people oh, the news, people will say, oh, the news, it's depressing and it's it's really depressing and it's doom and gloom and it's this incident crisis and incident and that crisis and whatever. the good whatever. where's all the good news stories? and i tried this once viewers, have once and i asked viewers, have you news stories? you got any good news stories? can you in touch with me? can you get in touch with me? let's share them. let's share the positivity. and i couldn't actually much stuff so actually find much stuff so yeah, it would be wouldn't yeah, it would be nice, wouldn't it, positivity to talk it, to have positivity to talk about? yeah. it, to have positivity to talk abo i t? yeah. it, to have positivity to talk aboi mean yeah. it, to have positivity to talk aboi mean it/eah. it, to have positivity to talk aboi mean it would do maybe i do >> i mean it would do maybe i do need do a bit more of a focus need to do a bit more of a focus on actually be fair. on that. actually to be fair. but right, where's the

positivity? >> i'll tell you where the positivity is not at. i had an incident and describe it on incident and i'll describe it on my in a few minutes, but my program in a few minutes, but i victim of something i was the victim of something quite unpleasant tube. quite unpleasant on the tube. london underground monday, me london underground on monday, me alongside son and alongside my toddler son and i took to describe the took to twitter to describe the incident. but for reasons to incident. but for the reasons to thank a lady that had kind of got involved to help me. and i've been really surprised by the reaction not least from a few people on the left who have piled in on me for criticising and criticising me because i described this person , this described this person, this aggressive guy, as being a madman on the tube that was threatening people and a labour councillor has come at me and said said that i shouldn't be dehumanising people with mental health. i have a day off honestly and i need to use less insulting language. yeah, that's the problem. so maybe what i should say is an aggressive live man suffering with mental health issues on the tube. he's probably had a very tough upbringing and deserves a lot of sympathy. >> and let's let's let's hug him

until he puts the knife down. well yeah. >> and i've got a little bit of an issue with it because in my priority order, the victims of crime are the priority , not the crime are the priority, not the perpetrators . you deal with the perpetrators. you deal with the victims, you make sure that they're okay, that they're kind of looked after and all the rest of looked after and all the rest of it. and then that's when you focus on the perpetrators. it's not way around. not the other way around. and i do fear that society is taking a turn where it's going the other way around. >> but absolutely. >> but absolutely. >> but absolutely. >> but it's the same with kids as well. >> this where we're at >> but this is where we're at now with everything you know, you can't just say that kids naughty maybe a naughty or and maybe it needs a little a clip around the little bit of a clip around the ear. you know, he's got to have some problem with him as well. you know, got to be there's you know, it's got to be there's got issue there. you're got to be an issue there. you're looking at things like looking at like things like we've just had notting hill we've just had at notting hill carnival knives and the carnival with the knives and the machetes. being machetes. and instead of being able an open and frank able to have an open and frank conversation about, know, conversation about, you know, various different societal problems, got problems, etcetera, it's got to be well, you know, be all about, well, you know, what the reasons behind what are the reasons behind this? is it poverty? is it a lack of a strong male role

model? it's like, well, but what about responsibility model? it's like, well, but what about play, responsibility model? it's like, well, but what about play, byasponsibility model? it's like, well, but what about play, by theynsibility model? it's like, well, but what about play, by the way, lity model? it's like, well, but what about the ', by the way, lity model? it's like, well, but what about the laboure way, lity model? it's like, well, but what about the labour councillor because the labour councillor that's been having a go at me fair play to her have asked her to my programme tonight to come on my programme tonight and me she said she would. >> so i'm looking forward to that. but me there's two that. but for me there's two words that have got lost in society, response society, personal response ability. happened to ability. what has happened to those when somebody those two words when somebody does why that not. why does wrong? why is that not. why is it somebody has wrong is it somebody has done wrong but about this? what but but what about this? what about what about this? but but what about this? what aboutabout what about this? but but what about this? what aboutabout that? about this? but but what about this? what aboutabout that? adon't:his? what about that? i don't understand. aren't understand. why aren't people there's an excuse for their wrongdoing. >> but this is i think now we're witnessing culmination of a witnessing the culmination of a load people almost being too load of people almost being too kind. when people kind. you know, when people are growing what happens growing up, this is what happens when have winners and when you don't have winners and losers. on sports day, everyone knows. tommy has knows. is that where tommy has come right. everyone knows come last? right. everyone knows that took that he's waddled in. he took a to a cheeseburger, to break eat a cheeseburger, joined 100m, had crawl joined the 100m, had to crawl over the line. right. everyone saw and fat tommy saw that. and then fat tommy gets as you know gets the same medal. as you know , it's the taking part that counts . yeah, which, course counts. yeah, which, of course it because that's not it isn't, because that's not life. but i don't know. >> because i imagine that this labour going to say

labour council is going to say to that actually got to me that actually you've got all the mental health services that cut and you've that have been cut and you've got people that are got a lot of people that are suffering that are like walking among they're not getting among us and they're not getting the that they the treatment that they need because services been because the services have been cut truth to that. cut and there is truth to that. services been cut. does services have been cut. but does that mean that it's okay for people to behave the way that they don't think it does. they do? i don't think it does. anyway. forward to anyway. i'm looking forward to that martin daubney that debate. got martin daubney joining alan miller, joining me and alan miller, i want or not it's want to ask whether or not it's okay for politicians to condone the vandalism of campaign the vandalism of ulez campaign cameras. if a worker cameras. and also if a worker goes on strike, should they then not not be included in the bonus program that's given to other workers? so i've got all that coming up as well. >> good stuff. fantastic all right. okay. well, look, make sure you stay tuned for michelle dewberry , who will up next dewberry, who will be up next with rip roaring show on dewbs with a rip roaring show on dewbs & see you tomorrow at & co i'll see you tomorrow at £0.03 pm. take easy. £0.03 pm. take it easy. >> looks like things are heating up. proud up. boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello again. it's luke miall

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rumbles on now . rumbles on now. iain rumbles on now . iain duncan rumbles on now. iain duncan smith has essentially said it's okay for people to vandalise cameras there or thereabouts . cameras there or thereabouts. what do you think? do you agree with that or not? and what is going on in this country when it comes to crime? the absolute state of people running around with machetes. i noticed as well at notting hill carnival, with machetes. i noticed as well at notting hill carnival , the at notting hill carnival, the number of stabbings that took place. some people say now it's time for that carnival to be

cancelled. is it or