is no longer in the cabinet as rishi got anything against us northerners. i hope not. and i can tell you what has absolutely infuriated me tonight. have you seen this story? look at this fella on the screen . yes, that's fella on the screen. yes, that's right. he is a man. he's even got stubble. but yes, you see? you can see, right. he's got a pink t shirt, pink shorts and a pink t shirt, pink shorts and a pink headband and pink nail varnish. he now reckons that he is a woman. why this is important this important is because this man was being a, decided was charged for being a, decided to transition to be a woman when it came to the sentencing. i am very concerned about what this means for child safety in this country. how do you sign a sex register to warn people and make children ? are you a man on

children safe? are you a man on there? are you a woman? are we aware of who is in our neighbourhood how our neighbourhood and how safe our children are? will be talking children are? i will be talking to lawyer about how all to a lawyer about how this all works and the deadline to rehouse afghan refugees away from hotels is today. do you think the government has achieved their target or not? and i've got a simple question for you. train stations do they need ticket offices? yes or no? there's a plan now potentially to get rid of about a thousand ticket offices. but some people are having absolutely none of it, saying that that discriminates against the elderly and the vulnerable. i'll be joined by the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, discuss that. i've burnham, to discuss that. i've got all coming your way. but got it all coming your way. but before it, let's before we get into it, let's grab tonight's latest headlines . michelle thank you. >> i'm tatiana sanchez in the gb newsroom. schools in england must immediately shut buildings made with a type of concrete that's prone to collapse until safety measures are put in

place. some schools will have to relocate children to other teaching spaces. more than 100 schools are being contacted before the start of the new term . education secretary gillian keegan says it's the right thing to do for both pupils and staff . but the association of school and college leaders claims the government knew about the dangers in 2018 and has been too slow to respond . grant shapps slow to respond. grant shapps has been appointed as the new defence secretary following the resignation of ben wallace . resignation of ben wallace. after four years in the job, he says he wants to explore different opportunities and spend more time with his family in his resignation letter, mr wallace says the ministry of defence is back on the path to being once again world class education minister claire coutinho takes over as energy and net zero secretary, replacing shapps shadow attorney general emily thornberry says the changes are a temporary measure . measure. >> it really doesn't matter how many new jobs rishi sunak gives to his friends , it's still

to his friends, it's still moving. the deck chairs . there's moving. the deck chairs. there's still a sinking ship. there's country really needs change and the only change that they're going to get is if we get a labour government and we get a labour government and we get a labour government and we get a labour government soon. >> junior doctors and consultants will be taking joint strike action in england for the first time across september and october. they'll walk out for four days in their long running disputes over pay. the british medical association says consultants will strike on september 19th and 20th, with junior doctors also walking out on the 20th of september, followed by strikes on september 21st and 22nd. both consultants and junior doctors will take strike action again on october 2nd, third and fourth. emergency care will continue to be provided . a south wales police provided. a south wales police officer faces a criminal investigation for dangerous driving after two teenagers were killed in cardiff. 16 year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year old harvey evans died in may when they crashed on an e—bike. cctv

footage captured a police van following the teenagers minutes before the fatal crash . the before the fatal crash. the police officer was previously served with a gross misconduct notice, as was another officer also in the vehicle . police also in the vehicle. police officers will be automatically dismissed if they're found guilty of gross misconduct under new government plans . senior new government plans. senior officers will have more powers to sack rogue staff and be able to sack rogue staff and be able to dismiss those who fail vetting checks. the government says the changes could be implemented as soon as next spring. policing minister chris philp told gb news the rules will strengthen the policing system . system. >> it'll make removal for gross misconduct automatic and it will make sure that specified criminal offences will automatically lead to misconduct and it will streamline and speed up the process for removing officers either guilty of or accused of misconduct or indeed of poor performance as well. and there will be nowhere for them

to hide. and i think that will help, as you say, rebuild public confidence in policing , staff, confidence in policing, staff, redundancy is at wilko are due to start next week. >> the gmb union says its after the only bid to buy the collapsed retailer fell through the trade union says many staff will arrive at work for the last time on monday , though it time on monday, though it remains hopeful that a viable buyer could yet come forward . buyer could yet come forward. must continue to prepare for the worst. more than 1000 jobs are at risk . the boss of easyjet has at risk. the boss of easyjet has demanded that a full independent review is launched into the air traffic control failure that happened earlier this week. the airline chief executive said the incident , which wrecked the incident, which wrecked the travel plans of around a quarter of a million people, must not happen again. flights to and from uk airports were restricted for several hours on monday afternoon as national air traffic services were unable to process flight plans automatically . and thousands of

automatically. and thousands of holidaymakers have been waiting for days to get home following delays caused by that air traffic control fault. despite airlines schedules returning to normal and backlogs clearing most flights to the uk from popular destinations, including majorca , crete and sicily are majorca, crete and sicily are sold out until the next weekend. the airlines say they're trying to fly people back as quickly as possible . and finally , former us possible. and finally, former us president donald trump has pleaded not guilty to charges in georgia related to his attempt to overturn his 2020 election defeat. the plea means that he'll not appear in person in court next week to face the charges. he's been charged with 13 felony counts, including racketeering for pressuring state officials to reverse the 2020 presidential election decision . the latest charges decision. the latest charges mark trump's fourth indictment since launching his re—election campaign for president in 2024. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car on digital radio

and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . michelle back to. michelle >> thanks for that . tatiana. i'm >> thanks for that. tatiana. i'm michelle dewberry with you right through till 7:00 tonight. for the first time on this programme, i have to say a face familiar with the channel but new on dewbs& co the former editor of the daily star, dawn neesom. welcome to you . and also neesom. welcome to you. and also alongside us, novara media, the co—founder there, aaron bastani. good evening to you too. evening. when i saw your name, it did make me chuckle because on tuesday, i think it was this week, i had a new face to my panel week, i had a new face to my panel. so i thought to myself, you know, i'll tease it on twitter, and i put like a little kind of clue . who do you think kind of clue. who do you think my new panellist is ? and i put a my new panellist is? and i put a picture of a prawn sandwich and m&s prawn sandwich because i thought to me that would be obvious if i said to you, a new panellist clue m&s prawn sandwich, you'd say roy keane ,

sandwich, you'd say roy keane, right ? there's no. right? there's no. >> well, i was. i was thinking on the lines. well, i wouldn't say me, but i've been called worse . woi'se. >> worse. >> well, anyway, i despair. >> well, anyway, i despair. >> that's all i can say about the great british public, because it was gerald ratner, the prawn sandwich. he was saying that some of his jewellery. yeah didn't last as long as a prawn sandwich or mayonnaise or something like that. >> anyway, i could have thought something more obvious. you could have used michelle, but not. on air. not. not really on air. >> but anyway, my point was, >> no, but anyway, my point was, no one really got my clue. everyone thought it was wrong. roy but one person roy keane. but one person wrote in said, it dawn neesom? in and said, is it dawn neesom? i know. and it really cracked me up. so when i saw you today, i was thinking, whatever you do, michelle, don't call a prawn. was thinking, whatever you do, michecalldon't call a prawn. was thinking, whatever you do, michecall a»n't call a prawn. was thinking, whatever you do, michecall a prawn,. a prawn. was thinking, whatever you do, michecall a prawn, don'thn. was thinking, whatever you do, michecall a prawn, don't call don't call a prawn, don't call a prawn. succeeded in calling you on. so welcome. anyway, you know the . you guys home and the drill. you guys at home and i some of you you're smart . i bet some of you you're smart. you said gerald you will have said gerald ratner. was, of course, my ratner. he was, of course, on my panel on tuesday. watch it on catch if you missed it.

catch up. if you missed it. anyway, get touch with me anyway, get in touch with me tonight. is on mind? tonight. what is on your mind? vaiews@gbnews.com is you vaiews@gbnews.com is how you get email you can get me on the email or you can tweet at gb news. and tweet me at gb news. and speaking twitter, a question speaking of twitter, a question towards the the towards the end of the programme, ask you is programme, i want to ask you is whether or not you think that a train station should have a ticket it ticket office. let's keep it simple. yes or no? i've got andy burnham, the mayor of greater manchester. he's joining me towards back end the towards the back end of the programme. very programme. he feels very passionately that , yes, those programme. he feels very passioofficesthat , yes, those programme. he feels very passiooffices should es, those programme. he feels very passiooffices should remain.e ticket offices should remain. apparently it's almost discriminate against the elderly and the vulnerable . if the and the vulnerable. if the ticket stations are not there. do you agree with him or not? right, though into the top storey of the day, have you seen the mini reshuffle? that's been taking place? rishi sunak is quite busy. there's been lots of criticism and feedback to this. this is a kind of we were expecting a bit of a bigger reshuffle. that one got delayed. so this is like a little mini one. we've seen now that grant shapps he has got he's the new defence secretary. basically, i think this is something like his fifth job grant shapps fifth job

in the space of the year of a yeah in the space of the year of a year. sorry and i just wonder you just heard emily formby there saying it's basically , you there saying it's basically, you know, the deck know, reshuffling the deck chairs on the titanic. what do you to it? you make to it? >> well, i mean, the problem with that comment is it's slightly it's slightly superfluous, isn't it? because he's got to do something. i mean, just have mean, he can't just have a vacancy. but you're right about grant shapps. i mean, he has had seven cabinet roles since 2012 and he has been secretary of state for energy, energy security, business, energy industrial home department, transport and finally defence. it's like the magic roundabout, isn't it? but slightly less, slightly more surreal . and the slightly more surreal. and the thing is, it's like it's a mini shuffle . everyone was expecting, shuffle. everyone was expecting, as you said, a bigger shuffle. but i think the plan is to do that just before the next election. now, whether rishi sunakis election. now, whether rishi sunak is brave enough to do that is another matter. the thing i find quite astonishing about this i have got no idea what this is i have got no idea what grant shapps knows about defence. probably doesn't defence. he probably doesn't ehhen defence. he probably doesn't either. you either. i know he's got, you know, friends who live

either. i know he's got, you knthe friends who live either. i know he's got, you knthe ukraine, friends who live either. i know he's got, you knthe ukraine, but|ds who live either. i know he's got, you knthe ukraine, but there |o live either. i know he's got, you knthe ukraine, but there was'e either. i know he's got, you knthe ukraine, but there was no in the ukraine, but there was no red wall mps used michel and i think that's so important now to that that sort of like , you that that sort of like, you know, the north, know, embracing the north, getting those votes back on side because it's dangerous because i think it's dangerous playing game where it's playing that game where it's just literally his just really literally got his mates, those that have supported him. is one of the him. well, this is one of the points that our political points that our new political edhon points that our new political editor, christopher hope or choppen editor, christopher hope or chopper, might know chopper, some of you might know him chopper, some of you might know hinthis is one of the things >> this is one of the things that he was talking about on his twitter on. and he says twitter earlier on. and he says and i'm quoting him directly , he and i'm quoting him directly, he reckons massive reckons there's a massive reshuffle government reset reshuffle and a government reset planned says, planned for october. he says, before the speech will be planned for october. he says, be1november speech will be planned for october. he says, be1november the speech will be planned for october. he says, be1 november the seventh. vill be planned for october. he says, be1november the seventh. andre planned for october. he says, be1november the seventh. and he on november the seventh. and he makes about this makes a big point about this whole kind of red thing. whole kind of red wall thing. but go to this. the but let's go back to this. the fact that there was mini fact that there was this mini reshuffle in first place. reshuffle in the first place. grant now in that grant shapps now in that prominent role, do you think this is going to make much of a difference the term to difference in the short term to the fortunes? the government's fortunes? >> don't think so. i think >> no, i don't think so. i think it really sums up rishi sunak's tenure minister that tenure as prime minister in that it's indecisive of it's incremental, indecisive of immediately forgettable all, you know, the other person who's

been elevated, she may be very talented. claire coutinho 99.9% of heard of of the public hasn't heard of her. apparently very her. she's 38, apparently very talented . and in a way, it's an talented. and in a way, it's an interesting mirror image to rishi seems rishi sunak. he seems a reasonably decent, capable male legislator. he would be a nice undersecretary to the treasury or maybe business secretary, but he hasn't got that oomph to be the prime minister. and this seems those moments where seems one of those moments where that lack of oomph is being sort of reflected choices. of reflected in his choices. >> you've someone like >> when you've got someone like a johnson that's filled a boris johnson that's filled with and personality with oomph and personality and all the rest of it, yeah, then you get the criticism. eyes of sherman. he's got too much oomph. then you put someone in that's a more of a steady that's a bit more of a steady eddy it's like, oh, he's eddy then it's like, oh, he's not them. you can't win. >> well, that wasn't. i never said that. i think the public wants people in charge who can solve their problems . but you solve their problems. but you absolutely need be able to absolutely need to be able to garner attention and garner people's attention and keep it. boris johnson was very good at that. rishi sunak less so, i say, very capable so, like i say, very capable politician, but you're a figurehead top of the figurehead at the top of the government i think the

government and i think the choices he's made here, like i say, reflect the that he's say, reflect the fact that he's quite a forgettable, indecisive character. but don't you think, erin, that the problem voters have got with this election is looming very fast? have got with this election is loo isng very fast? have got with this election is loo is the 'ery fast? have got with this election is loo is the fact fast? have got with this election is loo is the fact that both >> is the fact that both parties, both main parties are led by two men that are exactly like that. they're probably very steady, very capable. i mean, you know, sir keir starmer, a barrister for chennai six boring fine line , but they're both out fine line, but they're both out of the same mould. but i mean, as you were saying, michelle, you're quite right. i mean, bofis you're quite right. i mean, boris johnson had fuller personality. look where that got us. donald trump full of personality. look that personality. look where that got america. want ? but, america. what do we want? but, you come the next election you know, come the next election , going be , everyone's going to be scratching and scratching their heads and going, don't know what going, well, i don't know what any you stand for. any of you stand for. >> one thing that i was going to say annoys me , but think say annoys me, but i think everything these days. everything annoys me these days. >> so i need to find a different word. one of the things that yeah, it just annoyed let's yeah, it just annoyed me. let's just it is. i was just say what it is. i was listening to emily thornberry a second ago on headlines with second ago on the headlines with tatiana second and she tatiana a second ago, and she was saying this

was basically saying this country needs change and that change is labour. and there's something about politics in this country where i really dislike that. the arrogance of the two main parties, they sit there and they think it's either tory or it's labour , and there's just it's labour, and there's just something about that. and yes, i do understand that that is the kind of first past the post system we have. but there's system that we have. but there's something about it i don't like . i'm missing something. no, you're absolutely right. >> you're actually >> and i think you're actually capturing of the capturing something of the zeitgeist, because zeitgeist, michelle, because there out earlier there was a poll out earlier this redfield and this week from redfield and wilton that doesn't really matter came for matter where it came from for your they found your audience, but they found that of undecided voters that 44% of undecided voters would be willing to vote for a new party. and perhaps more remarkably, 30% just under of both labour and tory voters would looking to for a new would be looking to go for a new party. so you've got 35, 40% of the public looking for something new and agree with that , that new and agree with that, that really the big two have nothing to offer . but really the big two have nothing to offer. but as you really the big two have nothing to offer . but as you say, with to offer. but as you say, with the electoral system, have, to offer. but as you say, with the verytoral system, have, to offer. but as you say, with the very hard system, have, to offer. but as you say, with the very hard to .tem, have, to offer. but as you say, with the very hard to .tem how have, it's very hard to see how something emerges. and something different emerges. and this have in politics

this duopoly we have in politics is i think it's most is i think it's the most destructive aspect of the westminster system, frankly. yeah >> 9 know, i run for >> and you know, i run for election in 2019 as the brexit party candidate , and what we did party candidate, and what we did actually on reflection is we just split the vote. so people who were brexiteers in hull , who were brexiteers in hull, west hull, we call it, but hull west hull, we call it, but hull west and hessle is the correct name anyway, if you as a brexiteer, it's like, right, do i go with nigel's party or do i believe boris and go with the tories? what do i so in the tories? what do i do? so in the end, what we achieved we end, what we achieved is we split the brexiteers down the middle labour. sorry. yeah, we split them. labour got in through actually through the middle and actually labour with more labour got re—elected with more people against than people voting against them than voting see what voting for them. if you see what i mean. >> that's problem you've >> that's the problem you've got. people aren't voting got. i mean people aren't voting for they're policies, for labour and they're policies, they're against the they're voting against the current government. mean , current government. i mean, don't you when you get to don't you find when you get to this with government this stage with the government being for this length being in power for this length of time, people are going to do that matter what policies that no matter what the policies are sides. they just are on both sides. they just want get this this lot out, want to get this this lot out, as it were. so i just think the

trouble we've got before the next due is we can't next election due is we can't change system time. so change the system in time. so whatever people be whatever happens, people will be voting party voting against the party in power at the moment, but not particularly for labour particularly voting for labour because one knows because no one really knows what they for, including keir they stand for, including keir sama. alternative. sama. but there are alternative. if say they're just if you say michel, they're just going vote with the going to split the vote with the other parties. >> but a lot of people >> but then a lot of people watching that, i'll shouting watching that, i'll be shouting at telly saying, god, do not at the telly saying, god, do not give us proportional representation. they would argue that you're going to achieve that all you're going to achieve there hung parliaments there is hung parliaments and coalitions the rest of coalitions and all the rest of it. >> we're going to a it. >> we're going to have a hung parliament. >> we're going to have a hung parliamentcase, we've had i mean >> in any case, we've had i mean that was good argument until that was a good argument until 2010. then since of 2010. but then since then, of course, we've had we've had two hung parliaments. we've had permanent really for the permanent chaos really for the last ten in british last ten years in british politics. don't know if politics. so i don't know if that purchased that really has purchased any more. that really has purchased any mo well, you if you disagree >> well, if you if you disagree with because things like with pr because of things like hung up your game, hung parliaments up your game, that's says. with that's what aaron says. get with the get a little bit the program, get a little bit more modern in your opposition. right. a quick right. i want to take a quick break. when i come i think break. when i come back, i think this such an important topic this is such an important topic to a a male convicted to discuss. a a male convicted as decided then to

as such, decided then to identify as a female when it came to sentencing. you came to the sentencing. if you read reports that read the media reports that follow this story, she this she that she this she this. really that she this she this. i really worry are at worry that our children are at risk of this. and i'll risk because of this. and i'll be speaking

radio. >> hello there . i'm michelle >> hello there. i'm michelle dewberry keeping you company right through till 7:00 tonight. alongside me, the former editor of the daily star dawn neesom and the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani. now i'm going to try and get a picture up on my screen, if i may, because this stopped me in my tracks today . this really hoping tracks today. this really hoping i can get this picture up right? so this i mean, i really don't mean to be rude, right? but unless you're blind , you're unless you're blind, you're probably going to look at this picture . and if i ask you to picture. and if i ask you to describe to me, what do you see, you're probably going to tell me that you see man dressed in that you see a man dressed in pink. and i would call that right. no, no, no, no .

right. but no, no, no, no. apparently what you're seeing on your now is a woman your screen now now is a woman who needs to be referred to as she and her. the reason that this is a very important story is because this man was convicted of being a well, when he then went to court to be sentenced for his crime that he was found guilty of, by the way, he is a defence barrister . he is a defence barrister. whatever the terminology is informed the court that this person now identifies as a woman . i keeping up with me. i promise you this world is going mad . i am joined now by criminal mad. i am joined now by criminal barrister adam king, just to help me understand and help us all get a little bit of clarity about what is going on here and how all of this kind of comes to pass. first and foremost, pass. adam, first and foremost, thank for joining this thank you for joining me this evening. i've just been showing a picture to my viewers of sorry to be rude, but what i would call a man convicted as a but then decides that they've identified as a woman when it comes to sentencing. how can that be a possible thing in a court of law ?

court of law? >> well, i mean, there's nothing to stop a defendant saying i am a woman, even though they appear to be a man. but the question that arises, how does a court how does a judge, how do the other people involved deal with that ? there's something called that? there's something called the equal treatment bench book, which is a set of pieces of guidance for judges , which they guidance for judges, which they must follow in conducting proceedings , and that has proceedings, and that has a section chapter 12. you can look it up online that deals with trans identifying participants , trans identifying participants, including defendants, witnesses , everyone that guidance , to put , everyone that guidance, to put it simply as a starting point, says that people involved in the court process should be referred

to as their preferred third genden to as their preferred third gender. so that's that's the starting point for this right? >> so then this person was referred to as she, which i found grossly misleading because then what happens in the media is that media is then you have to reflect what was going on in the court. so now the media documentation , when you read documentation, when you read these stories, it's all about she did this and she did that and she did this and she did that. bit that concerns me that. the bit that concerns me though, first and primarily i am a to little, little one. a mum to a little, little one. lots of my viewers have children, grandchildren and the rest this person has rest of it. so this person has now made now been made to sign essentially sex register, essentially the sex register, the sex offenders register for what? what identity does this criminal . well, i would say criminal. well, i would say masquerade under on this register. are they recorded properly as a male or can they decide that they want to be registered as a female? >> the likelihood is that they will be signing the register

later. as a female policy varies from police force to police force, and you could argue that itself is a problem . but itself is a problem. but generally speaking, police forces policies on this stuff , forces policies on this stuff, gold plates goes further than the gender recognition act or indeed the equality act. and there is there is a real risk that that somebody convicted of an offence under either a under an offence under either a under a preferred female name when they used to be male , will, for they used to be male, will, for all police purposes , be using all police purposes, be using that new name, that there's a particular problem that arises with the disclosure and barring service because you can have someone convicted under one name there , birth name, a male name,

there, birth name, a male name, let's say they then elect to change gender. let's suppose without a gender recognition certificate, although it doesn't make much difference one way or the other for this. and then they commit more offences are convicted under the new name. the way that the police deal with that is to demand the end of the convict that they tell the des , of the convict that they tell the dbs , the disclosure and the dbs, the disclosure and barring service of any previous identities under which they might have been convicted , which might have been convicted, which seems to me to be a expecting rather much of convicts, particularly those convicted of sex offences . sex offences. >> indeed. let me ask you a final question on now as a mom to a little one. i think that i'm entitled somehow shape or form to be able to put some kind of request in. i don't really

know how it all works. i must confess into the police to find out whether or not there are any convicted males or sex criminals or whatever you want to call them in the vicinity of whether it's my child's school or my home the rest of it. is home and all the rest of it. is that right? um >> um. do you know i'm not sure whether you have the right to that information. i very strongly suspect not, but i am sure that if you go to the police and say, here's this person i'm suspicious of, um, do they have convictions under any previous identity? you will not get a satisfactory answer to that question. >> well, i've got to be honest. i think this is absolutely appalling and i find this a real risk to children's safety in this country . risk to children's safety in this country. i am astonished that this is going on in our criminal proceedings, but i really do appreciate your time. adam king there, criminal barrister, try and help me barrister, to try and help me understand some of this. i'm not sure how much clearer i am. i think all it's actually done is reaffirmed to me that this is

what is going on. it's wrong. >> it's absolutely and completely outrageous. michelle i think and it's not just children. we should be concerned about here. it is women as well. and let's not forget men kill 2 or 3 women every single week in this country. so to have a rapist suddenly identify as a woman and be registered on that, sex offenders register as a woman, is completely hiding the factit woman, is completely hiding the fact it is absolutely dangerous. >> it's actually giving me chills. >> and you know what? this case is not unusual. the figures show that men jailed for sex offences are twice as likely to identify as a trans women than men jailed for other offences because and this like men, male sex this is like men, male sex offenders faking identities to move to women's prisons, which they can't do now. thankfully, that law was sensibly changed, but then register on the but also then register on the sex offender as women and sex offender traces as women and as we all know, women can't rape because you need a penis to rape. don't rape. and women don't have penises. rape. and women don't have peraaron, your thoughts? >> aaron, your thoughts? >> aaron, your thoughts? >> yeah, i think the thing that really with regards to really struck me with regards to this it's in the

this article because it's in the telegraph and it's there's two individuals involved here. neither them got custodial neither of them got custodial sentences . so you've the sentences. so you've got the person you to, and then person you refer to, and then there's the second individual, a ten year house, 66. both got suspended is the suspended sentences. is the person mentioned at person that you've mentioned at the top of the show or the story, got 120 hours of story, rather, got 120 hours of unpaid work alongside that suspended i know suspended sentence. i know somebody who threw suspended sentence. i know s( stick. dy who threw suspended sentence. i know s( stick. they who threw suspended sentence. i know s( stick. they got who threw suspended sentence. i know s( stick. they got two who threw suspended sentence. i know s( stick. they got two years threw suspended sentence. i know s( stick. they got two years in rew a stick. they got two years in prison. so i just find that more astonishing than anything else. quickly on the on the gender recognition certificate aspect, that's document you need if that's the document you need if you want to change your gender on your passport, on your death certificate, your birth certificate, your birth certificate, get married certificate, if you get married to somebody or you want to amend your marriage certificate. so i find strange and lots of find it very strange and lots of people good, decent people, people very good, decent people, have through incredibly have to go through incredibly arduous get that arduous process to get that documentation . i find strange documentation. i find it strange , george, that this individual still doesn't have that documentation and yet can. >> but that's what that that's what that barrister was just explaining. that's what i find incredibly strange. if you decide can you refer to me as

this? because i promise you, everybody, you're bored everybody, when you're bored this till go off this evening, wait till i go off air. google this story because you will find it astonishing because media reflects the because the media reflects the basically court basically what the court reporter this reporter is saying. so this whole becomes about this whole story becomes about this woman, this she did this and she did that. i cannot i don't know what is going on in society. why are you okay with this outlier ? are you okay with this outlier? >> upset about about >> but you're upset about about that aspect of it. to me, the real there's two things here. the fact that they've not got a custodial sentence, i find it shocking because i didn't know where to put them. >> they didn't. that's why that's suspended. >> they didn't. that's why that read suspended. >> they didn't. that's why that read that suspended. >> they didn't. that's why that read that report,pended. >> they didn't. that's why that read that report, we ded. >> they didn't. that's why thatread that report, we didn't you read that report, we didn't know what to do with this person. so we've suspended it. >> implicit claim >> that's the implicit claim with person. i didn't with the second person. i didn't read that in first one. read that in the first one. maybe i misread it and that gets my is this my second point, which is this matters. being matters. if they're being treated well, treated differently, well, that's it really that's that's what it really gets that. gets you that. >> yes. man that reckons >> yes. the man that reckons that a woman. yet all that is a woman. and yet all hailed the guy because he's got a pink and a pink of a pink shirt and a pink pair of shorts pink nail shorts on and a pink nail varnish and a stupid pink headband his head whilst headband on his head whilst

having a face full of stubble. anyway he has got five anyway he he has got five convictions for six past offences. given a six offences. he was given a six month sentence which month prison sentence which was suspended. do 60 hours suspended. he has to do 60 hours of activity, 120 of rehabilitation activity, 120 hours work. get this hours of unpaid work. get this everybody. 11 indecent everybody. he had 11 indecent photos of children to which were category a, which are the most severe kind of imagery of child abuse. a further three of category b, six of category c, i've got goose pimples on my arm. this is wrong. i've got goose pimples on my arm. this is wrong . this self id arm. this is wrong. this self id thing that is going on in this country. yes, i am sure it might help some vulnerable individuals here and there, but we are now seeing time and time and time again that this is being abused. why aren't we standing up? why aren't we pushing back against this? why are we just randomly sitting here looking at pictures of men being described as women, convicted , pretending that they convicted, pretending that they are women ? are women? >> i mean, because you know why ? >> 7- >> you 7— >> you know 7 >> you know why, ? >> you know why, michelle, before i explore that and blow a gasket because you're accused of transphobic and that is what happens.

>> you get hate mail and death threats like jk rowling. >> well, do you know what my priority is? protecting children. protecting women. that is my priority anyway. i'm getting a right sweat on. i'm getting a right sweat on. i'm getting all het up. look getting all het up. let's look at how hot is at the weather and how hot it is outside that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news good evening, i'm alex deakin. >> this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. a bit of a mish mash tomorrow. a misty, murky start. some places will see a few showers, but some spots will see some warm sunshine too. it's a messy situation because we've got an old area of low pressure hanging around and these weather fronts cloud fronts have been bringing cloud and many areas and rain across many areas through day. the possibility through the day. the possibility of 1 or 2 heavy showers just in the far south—east through the night, staying fairly damp and murky and misty over parts of northern england. and some of that light rain trickling into southern scotland well. southern scotland as well. northern dry northern scotland staying dry and clear chilly. and clear and quite chilly. temperatures into

temperatures well down into single further a single figures. further south, a pretty night. temperatures pretty mild night. temperatures holding up in the mid teens for some as i said, some into friday. as i said, a bit of mish mash. the bit of a mish mash. the midlands, northern england parts of scotland, fairly of southern scotland, fairly drab the day, drab for much of the day, actually. overcast and pretty cloudy, too, for northern ireland. some light rain and drizzle here and there, especially to the east of the pennines. further south, something sunny something a bit brighter, sunny spells. will also be a spells. but there will also be a sprinkling of showers, mostly dry northern 20 dry over northern scotland, 20 degrees here, possibly in the degrees here, 23 possibly in the south with some sunshine. a cool feel though, with more feel, though, with that more persistent over northern persistent cloud over northern england, 16 or here saturday england, 16 or 17 here saturday may also start a bit misty. there'll be 1 or 2 isolated showers, but for most of us, saturday looks pretty good. if you have to dry and bright weather, some decent spells of sunshine and turning warmer with temperatures widely over temperatures more widely over 20 c. sunday also set fair 20 c. and sunday also set fair with some warm, sunny spells. goodbye >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news well i hope

that you're getting a little bit of sunshine wherever you are, especially if you've got kids or grandkids. >> i think they've got a few more days left of school holidays in some places. maybe, just we might see just maybe, we might see a little taste summer coming up little taste of summer coming up after break. couple after the break. a couple of questions you. train questions for you. train, train station, should still have station, should they still have ticket offices or not? how important they ? the mayor of important are they? the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, will be joining me to discuss that. and also the deadune discuss that. and also the deadline to rehouse afghan refugees out of her hotels is upon us. do you reckon that the government have met their target? you tell me

radio. >> hello there. this is dewbs& co. >> hello there. this is dewbs& c0. with >> hello there. this is dewbs& co. with me, michelle juburi till 7:00 tonight, the former editor of the daily star dawn neesom alongside me as is the co—founder of novara media . co—founder of novara media. aaron bastani. well, today it is the deadline for about 8000 afghans that were evacuated to

the uk in 2021 to have apparently moved out of temporary accommodation . this is temporary accommodation. this is basically in mir. these families got a letter from the home office saying that they either accept a housing offer that the government had provided or be evicted from the place that they are at. apparently. now are staying at. apparently. now the plans move . the government plans to move. all to 24,500 afghans out of temporary accommodation by the end of the year. our ambassador bastani, where do you sit on this? was it a right deadline in the first place? are we anywhere near we be or what? >> well, you put the words uk and afghanistan together and pretty everything's been pretty much everything's been mismanaged for the last 20 years. seems this seems years. and this seems this seems an outgrowth of i have to an outgrowth of that, i have to say. think we should say. i think we should absolutely be accepting every translator who worked the translator who worked with the british we were british army while we were occupying afghanistan. mean, british army while we were occujustgafghanistan. mean, british army while we were occujust seems|nistan. mean, british army while we were occujust seems to ;tan. mean, british army while we were occujust seems to me. mean, british army while we were occujust seems to me obvious, british army while we were occujust seems to me obvious . that just seems to me obvious. also, it's not that also, numerically, it's not that big number this particular big a number for this particular story about about somebody's son being able to join them. find being able to join them. i find really sad . and it's something really sad. and it's something it really hits on something i've

said previously, which i said previously, which is i think that conservatives and think that the conservatives and this conspiracy boreal. this sounds conspiracy boreal. i think have big incentives think they have big incentives is to mismanage the asylum system in this country because mismanaging it keeps it high on the political agenda. it gets people really angry and increasingly, the conservatives view asylum as a hail mary pass when it comes to winning the next general election. and i actually feel sorry for conservative voters who are being tricked it because the being tricked by it because the facts are we had net immigration in this country last year of 600,000. to talk about 600,000. they like to talk about asylum and afghans and iranians when actually most people coming to this country aren't from those places. they're coming here legal from other here perfectly legal from other places. and the victims of all that are people like this, this child like say, the child who is, like i say, the child who is, like i say, the child translator. so who child of a translator. so who i think has every right to be here. so i think it really just speaks to complete speaks to just complete political mismanagement. of course, words you course, those are two words you associate the government associate with the government seven a week now. associate with the government sev oh, a week now. associate with the government sev oh, harsh week now. associate with the government sev oh, harsh words. ow. associate with the government sev oh, harsh words. harsh. >> oh, harsh words. harsh. harsh. final parting shot down. your thoughts? well i think you

know, this this little boy is only three years old, is living with nan granddad under with his nan and granddad under the horrific, horrific rule the most horrific, horrific rule that's going on with the taliban in afghanistan on at the moment. >> certainly, we've just been discussing for women and girls in country not getting in this country not getting treated afghanistan treated very well in afghanistan . it hell on wheels. little . it is hell on wheels. little girls school. girls can't even go to school. so would actually so personally, i would actually airlift and girl out airlift every woman and girl out of afghanistan, let alone translators. there's translators. but listen, there's about million. translators. but listen, there's aboit million. translators. but listen, there's aboi know.|illion. >> i know. >> i know. >> but honestly , i know. i know. >> but honestly, i know. i know. and i put them all up in and i would put them all up in gary lineker's but but gary lineker's house. but but no, i just think it's insane no, but i just think it's insane the that we have treated the the way that we have treated the people that work for the british forces their lives at forces out there, their lives at risk every single time they step out of their house. many in out of their house. many are in hiding. certainly the women, there's a female judge used to be a judge. she's not allowed out the now, i've kept out of the house. now, i've kept in with. and she in contact with. and she she can't out her house. she can't go out of her house. she was a judge, but she was was a judge, but because she was sentencing when the sentencing the taliban, when the americans and the brits would supposedly place, she supposedly run the place, she can't the house she is can't go out the house or she is dead. absolutely terrifying. >> is this government not >> why is this government not helping people? cut

helping these people? let's cut to the one of the issues we've got here is we have several communication the taliban . communication with the taliban. >> not talking to them. >> we are not talking to them. and i think almost in a way, although you don't want to be condoning what they're doing in that country without a line of communication. is communication. this problem is not get solved. and not going to get solved. and there are many migrants. not going to get solved. and the you�*e many migrants. not going to get solved. and the you reckon! migrants. not going to get solved. and the you reckon we grants. not going to get solved. and the you reckon we could. not going to get solved. and the you reckon we could ring up >> you reckon we could ring up the or whoever's the grant shapps or whoever's got job today? he's going to got the job today? he's going to ring the leader of the ring up the leader of the taliban. hi there. lady, taliban. hi there. this lady, this kid down there, used this kid down there, we used to work with we have them work with them. can we have them out the country? yeah, of out of the country? yeah, of course no, no, no, no, course you can. no, no, no, no, 110. >> no. >> it's not. it's not that simple. of course it's not that simple. of course it's not that simple. but until we have a line of communication with that country, nothing is going to happen. and the few people we country, nothing is going to happiactuallythe few people we country, nothing is going to happiactually got few people we country, nothing is going to happiactually got out people we country, nothing is going to happiactually got out and le we have actually got out and as aaron was aaron pointed out, it was a basket two years ago when basket case two years ago when we upped and left literally overnight. remember overnight. we remember those scenes throwing scenes of people throwing their babies the airport. but babies into the airport. but there afghan taliban there are lots of afghan taliban are going to communicate are not going to communicate nice and decently about nice and decently with us about did to bring them over? did we have to bring them over? we have to at least have a try. women girls dying. this

women and girls are dying. this little doesn't know his little boy doesn't even know his parents afghan parents are. there are afghan translators and families translators and their families stuck in pakistan in stuck in hotels in pakistan in in land. have to do in limbo land. we have to do something. yeah >> say, i do think >> i've got to say, i do think this is a stain on our country. actually i know many you actually i know many of you might disagree a lot of might disagree because a lot of people will say, michelle, we've got this got our own problems in this country we're full on country and we're full on whatever, but i mean, whatever, whatever. but i mean, these people people that these people are people that actually helped us, that helped these people are people that actlarmedelped us, that helped these people are people that actlarmed forces, s, that helped these people are people that actlarmed forces, s, thihelped�*d our armed forces, that helped try this country as safe try to keep this country as safe as possibly could be as well. as it possibly could be as well. and i personally do. i think it's shameful just it's shameful that we've just abandoned this way. yes, abandoned them in this way. yes, we can all sit and debate about barges and all the rest of it, but that's for people that i would argue are economic migrants for these people that really desperately put their lives for us, i do. lives on the line for us, i do. i like we owe them i feel like we owe them a service. do you agree or not? also, let me ask you on this as well. do you think that ticket offices in train stations are needed or not? there's been a big march over to downing street today basically rally against today to basically rally against the planned ticket office closures. what do you make to

i'll be talking to the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, in a second.

hello there. i'm michelle dewberry . this is dewbs& co. dewberry. this is dewbs& co. we're with you till 7:00 tonight alongside me, the former editor of the daily star, dawn neesom, and the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani . lots of media, aaron bastani. lots of you getting in touch with the topics that we have been discussing on the show so far tonight. and i'll be reading out some of your comments before the end of the show. but as i've been speaking to you, save our ticket a group there ticket offices a group there have been marching over to downing street en masse to protest against the potential closures of train ticket offices up and down the country . now, up and down the country. now, apparently train operators and the government want to close almost a thousand ticket offices across england. i have to say, there's been a bit of a storm brewing around the consultation

penod brewing around the consultation period and how it's going to work, etcetera. the consultation is currently due to close on this topic at 2359 to be precise. tomorrow also as well, we've seen five metro mayors taking legal action against the government over this. and i'm very pleased to say that one of them joins us now . that is the them joins us now. that is the mayor of greater manchester, andy benn. and good evening to you , andy. yeah no sound . i can you, andy. yeah no sound. i can see you and i can also hear you . nothing there's i was just about to marble in his suntan there, but he's fiddling with his earpiece. i'm not sure if he can hear me, but any second now i shall reconnect . he looked i shall reconnect. he looked like he was stood in a glorious garden, all getting ready to talk me then, didn't he? i'll talk to me then, didn't he? i'll come you first. and you're come to you first. and you're not quite as suntanned as mr benn. and look, if benn. and look, then, if only i will. i know. wouldn't it be nice go on holiday somewhere? nice to go on holiday somewhere? anyway? are they anyway? ticket offices. are they essential train stations? essential in train stations? yes or if you're older, if or no? if you're older, if you're disabled, absolutely. >> two of

>> and those are the two sort of groups who are really groups of people who are really pushing back on this very strongly. i quite strongly. and i think quite right, this no country right, too. this is no country to be old and to be poor. and this is just another little another little sort of hammering away the quality of life for away at the quality of life for people like that, whether it's buses or whether it's housing. if you don't own. and with if you don't own. and now with pubuc if you don't own. and now with public transport and trains. so that's one aspect of it. >> and then the second one is we'll have to wait with bated breath, you to come on breath, go on for you to come on the big man and point everybody, because andy burnham, i'm assured and he assured now he can see me and he can me. andy burnham, good can hear me. andy burnham, good evening. back to you. so i've just bringing viewers just been bringing the viewers up michelle. hello there. up to michelle. hello there. yeah we're just reflecting. we was your wonderful was marvelling on your wonderful suntan whilst you couldn't hear or anyway look, ticket or see me. anyway look, ticket offices train stations. i've offices in train stations. i've just been bringing my viewers up to speed with some of the storm that has been brewing so question to you, quite simply , question to you, quite simply, why do feel that we need why do you feel that we need ticket offices train stations ticket offices in train stations in this day and age? all the technology as it is ? well all

technology as it is? well all i think they're massively important to michelle because when people travel, it's a stressful experience. >> and often you need to speak to people . and the thing is this to people. and the thing is this if the government thinks ticket offices only sell tickets, well, they've got that drastically wrong because people go in there for a whole host of reasons. as you mentioned, a thousand ticket offices. well, these are really important services in the heart of communities up and down england, just to say that we can just take them away. well, honestly, i don't think the pubuc honestly, i don't think the public are there with it. but there's a second reason. and let's just go with the thing that most people buy their tickets days digitally. tickets these days digitally. and of people but on and a lot of people do. but on the government's figures, 12% of people and they are people don't. and they are people don't. and they are people access to online people without access to online connectivity or they will perhaps be disabled people , perhaps be disabled people, older people who who don't buy their tickets that way. are we really saying that those people don't matter ? and for that don't matter? and for that reason, i would these

reason, i would say these proposals are downright discriminatory because many disabled people physically can't use ticket machines . they're not use ticket machines. they're not online. what are they meant to do? it's going to force those people off the railways. i was speaking to people representing those dementia yesterday. those with dementia yesterday. they will force many they say it will force many people dementia off the people with dementia off the railways . as you know, at a time railways. as you know, at a time when should be encouraging when we should be encouraging people public transport, people to use public transport, the government are doing the precise isn't some precise opposite. but isn't some of the counter—arguments of that that what they're trying to do is get away from the static ticket office and move more toward what they would perhaps call like a roving staff member situation where, yes, you've still got somebody. >> so there if you need them, but they're not just stationary in a box hoping that someone might want to buy a ticket. in a box hoping that someone might want to buy a ticket . well might want to buy a ticket. well that's part of their argument. >> but the problem with that argument, michelle, is it's not that they're going to have people around for the same amount of time that the ticket offices will be open. the plans for greater manchester show that

they're going have people they're going to have people there hour a day or there for an hour a day or something like there are something like that. there are massive these plans. massive cuts behind these plans. so taking people the so they're taking people off the railway the railway and so that means the support be there for support won't be there for people when they're travelling . people when they're travelling. i mean, we all know what it's like sometimes, you know, there's a cancellation, a delay. it's definitely like that up here in the north of england. people are often facing chaos on the railways. and then, you know, stressed and know, people get stressed and they out more. they they need to find out more. they want to go and to somebody want to go and talk to somebody where know they will find where they know they will find that behind glass in that person behind the glass in the office. know, the ticket office. you know, what's about? what's this all about? about many of the ticket machines up here, michel, are cashless. and i issue that i know this is an issue that you've raising on gb news. you've been raising on gb news. you are we saying to you know, what are we saying to people who have bank people who don't have bank bank accounts, cards, who don't accounts, bank cards, who don't like to pay in that way? again, are going force those are we just going to force those people off the railways? there's so here, and so many issues here, and i honestly don't know the honestly don't know why the government with government are proceeding with what myself and what they are doing. myself and other four of us are other mayors, four of us are looking taking action looking at taking legal action against plans. and we are against these plans. and we are

very much going to these very much going to fight these plans the way. we believe if plans all the way. we believe if they are not complicit with the law , not compliant with the law law, not compliant with the law , because they've run a wrong process here where they should have run a run a 12 week process. yes. but also because of the discriminatory impact of them on disabled people and older people, are older people, they are not compliant equality compliant with equality legislation either. it's just a bad idea. all the way through. >> but let's talk brass tacks, though, because i am on this issue.i though, because i am on this issue. i have to say, i can see both sides of the fence . the both sides of the fence. the flip side to what you're saying is that when you look at how we use the railway these days, the whole fabric of society in many cases has changed. many people don't stay don't commute anymore. they stay and work from home. that's kind of and it's people of changed and it's made people we've had all of this strike days , many, many strike days. days, many, many strike days. i think rmt alone in this in think the rmt alone in this in this current wave, i think they're on day 34. when you count this weekend as well. so people started to people have started to reorganise away from the railways. some these train railways. so some of these train companies that companies would argue that actually we need make cost

actually we need to make cost savings and that's why we're doing this so that we can continue to provide the service that reference. but i don't that you reference. but i don't think they're savings, michel, when they deter people from using the railways, when you're pushing people away from the railways, i've been told by my experts in greater manchester that these proposals will actually cost money, not save money. >> why ? because as i've said >> why? because as i've said before, they'll push many older people , people with dementia, people, people with dementia, disabled people away from using the railways . so that will the railways. so that will shnnk the railways. so that will shrink the revenue that the railways are bringing in. and i don't think they will actually save money in the long run. i think it's clear now why the rmt are fighting back against what the government is doing to the railways. it looks like the government are putting the railways in managed decline shnnk railways in managed decline shrink it back, cut it back and just leave it as a sort of a threadbare, bare bones service . threadbare, bare bones service. for some people, but not for everybody in every community. i think we've got to stand back.

sorry, fight back here, michel. you know, we can't accept this. we've lost post offices. we're losing other our services from communities. why should we just accept that ticket offices can be ripped out of communities up and down england i don't accept it. i won't accept it for greater manchester. i don't want them to close the 50 offices. here i am fighting back for older people for disabled people, actually for everybody who cares the railways and who cares about the railways and wants people to use them, wants more people to use them, not less. do you think if we not less. and do you think if we keep these ticket offices , i can keep these ticket offices, i can tell you now there's a lot of support for what you're saying coming on my from coming through on my inbox from my viewers. coming through on my inbox from my do wers. coming through on my inbox from my do wersthink people if >> do you think then people if we people, you what, we say to people, you know what, guys, keep the ticket guys, we'll keep the ticket offices, but we're going to increase your fares cover the increase your fares to cover the cost that, do you think that cost of that, do you think that would or not? would be fair or not? >> honestly don't think >> well, i honestly don't think they need to do that, because as >> well, i honestly don't think tisaid|eed to do that, because as >> well, i honestly don't think tisaid before, do that, because as >> well, i honestly don't think tisaid before, forthat, because as >> well, i honestly don't think tisaid before, for michelle,use as i said before, for michelle, if you people confidence to you give people confidence to use that brings in use the railways, that brings in more to railways and more money to the railways and therefore that pays for what we've always had this we've always had in this country. ticket

country. we've always had ticket offices. they suddenly offices. why are they suddenly unaffordable ? and can just unaffordable? and can i just remind everybody, michelle, we pay sky remind everybody, michelle, we pay sky high prices for our rail tickets in this country, higher than pretty much anyone else in europe. are we really saying that we can't afford to keep open the offices where those tickets are sold? are we saying that manchester pickard dilly cannot have a ticket office? an office that's so full every single day when people people are travelling, you know, this is beyond party politics. michelle it's not just of point scoring, you know, i'm pleased to hear that your your viewers are coming out in support of what? of what i'm saying, because i think this kind of goes to the heart of what kind of country we are. are we going to become a country that just becomes faceless, soulless, cashless you just kind of cashless where you just kind of force say, force people out and you say, well, 12% of older and disabled people like to buy their tickets in we the kind of in person. are we the kind of country those country that says, well, those people matter, forget people don't matter, forget about they're not about them if they're not online, tough luck? well, i honestly want live in a honestly don't want to live in a country like that . i think we're

country like that. i think we're better than that . and that's why better than that. and that's why this fight is a fight worth having ticket offices. but having for ticket offices. but actually , more more than actually, more more broadly than than that, britain feels pretty broken to me at the moment. you know, we've had sewage going into our rivers and seas all summer. we've got energy bills that people ordinary salaries that people on ordinary salaries can't that people on ordinary salaries cant and that people on ordinary salaries can't and we've got can't afford and we've got railways just in total chaos and now being cut back beyond the bare bones . when are we going to bare bones. when are we going to fight back against all of this? and i'm talking about fighting back, people of all parties, you know, prepared to see know, i am not prepared to see these services just taken away . these services just taken away. this is one on which we need to come together and say, no, you're not to going do this. >> andy burnham, that is the mayor of greater manchester, your message was head and understood. thank you very much for your time. you know what thatis for your time. you know what that is all we've got time for. i was itching to get you in. i could hear you nodding away in agreement. lots of you guys are saying barry , for example, you saying barry, for example, you just popped up. i totally agree with burnham. lots of you

with andy burnham. lots of you are that you want ticket are saying that you want ticket offices in this country when it comes to train stations. pleased as well to hear him agreeing with us about what we've been saying here about stop cancelling cash in this country. and by the way, he talks about standing up and fighting against things. i will end, if i can squeezeitin things. i will end, if i can squeeze it in with that ridiculous picture. i want you all to go away and think about it. you can think about in it. you can think about it in your tonight. the image your sleep tonight. the image that i was going on about earlier in the programme, earlier on in the programme, can i for you before we i bring it up for you before we go and say farewell? yes or go and say a farewell? yes or no? i go and say a farewell? yes or no?i hope go and say a farewell? yes or no? i hope that i can. this is the convicted that was convicted of paedophilia as a man and now reckons the reckons that he is a girl. the self in this country self situation in this country is being abused and women and children, if you ask me, are being in danger. is being put in danger. that is something we have to stand something that we have to stand up say sunak stop up and say no rishi sunak stop tinkering with your tinkering around with your cabinet what cabinet and focus on what is really important in this country anyway. lot time you anyway. lot time flies when you are

next so the big story of the day is labour saying up to 120,000 people have died in the last year on nhs waiting lists. >> is this all the fault of the government or with many of them, have died? anyway, we'll debate that. where to put all these young men crossing the english channel? well, now in huddersfield, are being huddersfield, students are being kicked of halls of kicked out of halls of residence. we'll go live to huddersfield . and joining me on huddersfield. and joining me on talking pints well, he was a banken talking pints well, he was a banker. he was a politician in a renowned thatcherite and right winger, sir gerald howarth will join me on talking pints but before all of that, let's get monnieres with tatiana sanchez . monnieres with tatiana sanchez. >> nigel, thank you very much and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom around 121,000 patients died while