good morning. it's 930 on friday, the ist of september, and this is friday, the 1st of september, and this is britain's newsroom here on gb news. with me, tom harwood and ellie costello here on gb news. with me, tom harwooiupnd ellie costello here on gb news. with me, tom harwooiupnd iyou costello here on gb news. with me, tom harwooiupnd iyou today.lo here on gb news. with me, tom harwooiupnd iyou today .0 coming up for you today. >> back to school chaos.

thousands pupils are forced thousands of pupils are forced back style back into lockdown style learning buildings learning as crumbling buildings and closed across and classrooms are closed across the country and shuffling the deck chairs. the country and shuffling the decwhat's;. the country and shuffling the decwhat's the fallout from rishi >> what's the fallout from rishi sunak's around? sunak's ministerial mix around? could to turning could it be a key to turning around ailing poll ratings around his ailing poll ratings as stranded abroad and then stranded? >> you home? fresh >> once you get home? fresh train cause misery train strikes cause misery across uk , bringing britain across the uk, bringing britain to a strike to a standstill while a strike too far. >> it's not just the trains, the planes, it's too. planes, it's the nhs too. despite times despite those waiting times being high the being at a record high for the first and first time, junior doctors and consultants walk out consultants will walk out together historic together in a joint historic strike. put patients strike. could this put patients at . at risk. >> it's a packed show today, but alongside all of that, the most exciting pictures ever of the loch ness monster have been released. dozens exist. we're going be talking that. going to be talking about that. let what think. let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com. fighting. first, let's get the news bulletin with rihanna and have an absolutely . not >> thank you, ellie. good morning. it's 932. your top stories from the newsroom. the government's being urged to publicly reveal which schools

are a type of are affected by a type of concrete concrete prone to sudden thousands sudden collapse. thousands of children ahead children face disruption ahead of class after of their return to class after safety warnings were issued, forcing closure forcing the immediate closure of some than 100 some buildings. more than 100 schools, colleges some buildings. more than 100 schoc had colleges some buildings. more than 100 schoc had urgent.leges have had to make urgent relocation some relocation plans, and some children forced into children may be forced back into remote learning . another wave of remote learning. another wave of strikes hits rail passengers today , bringing some services today, bringing some services across the country to a standstill . members of the aslef standstill. members of the aslef union are staging a 24 hour walkout, leaving many train drivers trains without drivers. the rail delivery group describes the strike as unnecessary, but aslef says the government's refusing to make a reasonable pay offer . meanwhile, reasonable pay offer. meanwhile, the transport secretary is meeting aviation chiefs today as thousands of passengers remain stranded abroad and services to and from the uk were restricted for hours on monday following an air traffic control glitch. more than a quarter of flights were cancelled, causing a backlog

that's lasted seven days. an inquiry into what happened is due on monday. inquiry into what happened is due on monday . and house prices due on monday. and house prices fell in august at the sharpest annual rate in 14 years, according to nationwide. the banking giant says annual house pnces banking giant says annual house prices fell by 5.3% last month, bringing the average property value to £259,000. it's the biggest annual drop since july 2009. and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com. now it's back to tom and . ellie it's back to tom and. ellie >> welcome back . you're watching >> welcome back. you're watching britain's newsroom. the time is 933. and i'm here with tom harwood and we are talking today our biggest story is about thousands of pupils, potential returning to home schooling . returning to home schooling. why? because of concrete safety fears in the classroom up and down britain. it's concern that

104 schools could be affected by this, meaning that those pupils , after six long weeks away from the classroom , are back to the classroom, are back to lockdown style. learning online lessons. and i know that's really affected so many of you at home. potentially, you could be a grandparent or a parent of these children. do let us know how you're feeling. it must be really, really quite concerning for you. it must be a scramble, actually, potentially trying to get childcare do let get childcare for monday. do let us know what you're thinking at the moment. gb views at cbnnews.com. is quite cbnnews.com. it really is quite an astonishing situation . an astonishing situation. >> it is. and there are huge, huge questions about why is this only announced now ? at only being announced now? at what we start learn what point did we start to learn about within this about the dangers within this rack ? rac concrete ? when did rack? rac concrete? when did individuals in positions of authority know that this was an issue and why has it only been announced days before people are returning to school ? some huge, returning to school? some huge, huge questions for ministers and indeed administrators. local councils. no doubt too, but

ministers have been urged to provide more clarity on the scale of this problem and the welsh government says it will also survey its own schools to see if they're safe . because see if they're safe. because remember the 104 schools that's just in england ? just in england? >> yes, yes. are so many >> yes, yes. there are so many questions . so joining us now to questions. so joining us now to discuss political discuss it is political commentator . good commentator john oxley. good morning to you, john. really good to have you with us in the studio. i mean, for these parents of these students and certainly students certainly for the students themselves, it's going feel themselves, it's going to feel like 2020, isn't it ? >> absolutely. these schools, many of them, forced to many of them, are forced to either down or close down either close down or close down certain areas. >> and going to be a huge >> and that's going to be a huge upheaval particularly upheaval, particularly for children starting children potentially starting school don't even school as well, who don't even know if they're going into their their school they their new school that they were getting about. getting all excited about. instead they're going to be at home, their parents are going to have ways to with have to find ways to deal with that. also to that. and we also have to remember, as in lockdown, remember, as we saw in lockdown, there's economically there's lots of economically poorer areas where this is a huge problem because they don't necessarily have laptops at home. they don't necessarily

have good internet access. so it's problem for them to it's a huge problem for them to have to learn online and for this to happen with a week or two's notice and with the government that money for government saying that money for finding new accommodation and new transport is going to have to come out of schools budgets, it's a big imposition. we already know schools are struggling sorts of struggling with all sorts of budget issues and we that budget issues and we know that as result of all of these as a result of all of these strikes, a lot of pay rises have come of in many cases, the come out of in many cases, the capital budgets of not just schools, but also hospitals and everything else. >> if we're spending less on the infrastructure for to pay for higher salad raises that points to bigger issues down the road as well . absolutely. as well. absolutely. >> i mean, in any business, if you were moving money from your capital expenditure into running day to day operations, that's a big alarm bell that you're not in a good financial position. and i think what we're and i think that's what we're finding moment lot finding at the moment with a lot of public services . and we've of public services. and we've seen we see it all the time through the era of austerity that big infrastructure projects were cancelled and money was

moved into day to day spending. and up costing you and that ends up costing you more then more in the long run. and then when to fix something when you need to fix something like you've like this, you've got to scramble find money scramble around to find money that necessarily have. that you don't necessarily have. >> we've just had a six week long holiday longer it's long holiday longer if it's a private school. how have parents only just been told that this is an issue? i mean , many of them an issue? i mean, many of them going back to school monday. going back to school on monday. >> i it's >> absolutely. i mean, it's remarkable. i was remarkable. i think i was reading engineer first reading that an engineer first warned in 1995. and warned about this in 1995. and we know that this concrete, when it was rolled out, had a life expectancy of about 30 years. and these schools were mostly built in the 50s and the 60s. and this has been an issue where it has been discovered on an ad hoc basis with issues in particular schools over the last 4 or 5 years. so it's really bad of the government to have not invested dated this properly and never mind the six week closure. we had a period you've already talked where schools were talked about where schools were largely for two years. largely closed for two years. all engineering all sorts of engineering work could done in that could have been done in that penod could have been done in that period children weren't period when children weren't there with. and it's

there to begin with. and it's frankly shocking that with a week to go, parents are being told, oh, no, your child's not going back to school. we're going back to school. we're going have to make going to have to make alternative going to have to make altewhat'e missed opportunity. >> what a missed opportunity. and particularly you were mentioning cases, the mentioning in many cases, the children suffered most from children that suffered most from school during lockdown children that suffered most from sch�*from during lockdown children that suffered most from sch�*from less during lockdown children that suffered most from sch�*from less economicallydown are from less economically advantageous areas , as it seems advantageous areas, as it seems likely to me that a lot of these 50s and 60s school buildings that were built with this aerated concrete built fairly , aerated concrete built fairly, quite cheaply, are going to be in similar areas that have already seen the biggest knocks from those lockdowns over the last two years. that's very true. >> these schools generally will have been where new towns or new estates were built in the 50s and the 60s, and they built a school alongside them, generally done quite cheaply . a lot of done quite cheaply. a lot of that was recover from blitz damage in the inner cities or the slum clearances that happenedin the slum clearances that happened in these new council estates. so yeah, there's a big chance that these are to going be schools in not particularly rich inner city areas or suburban areas without much

money rather than your sort of old village school where potentially people are a bit more affluent . more affluent. >> this isn't going to be a quick fix , is it, john? i mean, quick fix, is it, john? i mean, if we're talking about buildings potentially needing to be rebuilt students being moved rebuilt and students being moved into mean, into demountable blocks, i mean, that could take a year potentially two. >> a huge problem , >> yeah, it's a huge problem, partly because they'll have to find funding it, which find the funding to do it, which isn't circles isn't easy in government circles .then be isn't easy in government circles . then be all sorts of . then there'll be all sorts of preliminary work to out preliminary work to work out what schools need fixing, what the best fix for any individual thing is , you know, potentially thing is, you know, potentially this is going to be a situation, as you say, for a couple of years, which is really hard and really expensive to find a solution to. >> just extraordinary. >> it's just extraordinary. i mean, is the first the mean, this is the first the alarm bells were raised 1995. alarm bells were raised in 1995. that's best part of 30 years that's the best part of 30 years ago. so it's extraordinary that in the intervening period, not a single government, not a single mill minister or indeed local authority has woken to the sort of scale scale of this issue. why is it all coming to a head

now? and sad ? now? and sad? >> this is quite typical of what our government does, that there's a lot of focus on day to day and not much on long day issues and not much on long term and it's more term planning. and it's more than a 1995 issue. these buildings in the buildings were built in the 19505 buildings were built in the 1950s 60s when the state 1950s and 60s when the state didn't have a huge amount of money. like, money. and so they were like, we'll this cheap solution. we'll have this cheap solution. it last for 30 or 40 years. it will last for 30 or 40 years. by it will last for 30 or 40 years. by then be in a position by then we'll be in a position to with it and for whatever to deal with it and for whatever reason, 30 or 40 years later, government looked at these schools and thought, well, they're doing now. we they're doing fine now. do we really spend more money really want to spend more money upgrading them or rebuilding them ? and say, another 30 them? and as you say, another 30 or 40 years have passed and these buildings with a 30 year life span are now up 80 years old and that's clear for anyone to have seen, but no one's really bothered to look into it or bother to solve problem. or bother to solve the problem. and dereliction and it's a shocking dereliction and really quite indicative of how we deal with long term problems in a lot of issues across government . across government. >> john, whilst got you >> john, whilst we've got you wanted the wanted to ask you about the mini reshuffle saw yesterday, reshuffle that we saw yesterday, the biggest move being grant shapps now in defence. what do

you make of that move? i think it's an interesting one for rishi sunak to have made grant shapps one thing he brings to the is he's a good the government is he's a good media performer. >> someone they want >> there's someone they want to get to fore in the run get out to the fore in the run up to the election, but also i think with in think with defence in particular, you kind have particular, you kind of have two types secretary ben types of defence secretary ben wallace was one who was, you know, had served the armed know, had served in the armed forces really cared about the armed forces and really saw his role as defence secretary as the guy to defend them from government cuts . i think grant government cuts. i think grant shappsis government cuts. i think grant shapps is kind of the opposite . shapps is kind of the opposite. he's very close with rishi, very augned he's very close with rishi, very aligned politically with him and so probably when the next spending review comes around, he's not someone who's going to be much of fight be putting up much of a fight as we fully that defence is we fully expect that defence is going to be looking at having its its budget trimmed, potentially a political potentially a bit of a political containment there , containment strategy there, shutting down shouts or rouse to come in the future . come in the future. >> but it does leave a bit of an energy sized hole in government . we've got a very new minister

.we've got a very new minister in claire coutinho, who only became an mp in 2019, a rapid, rapid rise to cabinet secretary. but it does mean that we have yet another change in energy security strategy. >> absolutely. and that's, again, one of the problems that we've seen across all sorts of departments that it's become these revolving doors. it's hard to get anything done. you inherit a set of policies that you're not necessarily really passionate about, but you don't necessarily have the time to bnngin necessarily have the time to bring in your own ideas. and i think that disruption is never good for exactly the sort of long term planning that we've been talking about and energy security is a long term thing like like this issue with schools. if you're building a power station, it takes you 20 or 30 years. you really need someone with that long term vision. and that's not helped by chopping ministers. vision. and that's not helped by choitiing ministers. vision. and that's not helped by cho it all ministers. vision. and that's not helped by cho it all ties ministers. vision. and that's not helped by cho it all ties together, ministers. vision. and that's not helped by cho it all ties together, doesn'ters. >> it all ties together, doesn't it? the lack long term it? the lack of long term thinking in schools, lack thinking in schools, the lack of long energy. long term thinking in energy. john , thank you so much john oxley, thank you so much for through those for talking us through those big, this morning. big, big stories this morning. >> thank >> really good to see you. thank youwell, following the travel

>> well, following the travel chaos this week, many brits are struggling back home. struggling to get back home. >> us stranded holidaymakers face disruption and stress and they've been forced foot the they've been forced to foot the bill fault of their own i >> -- >> well, one such brit is richard , whose 30th wedding richard, whose 30th wedding anniversary took a turn for the worse when he and his wife faced delays on their flight back from madeira. well, richard joins us how. >> now. >> good morning to you, richard. it looks as though you're still very much in madeira. tell us your story . your story. >> yeah, just as we went on from from the other day , we were over from the other day, we were over here for a 30th wedding anniversary . um, should have anniversary. um, should have been flying back on the 28th and easyjet cancelled the flight back, obviously through the air traffic control fiasco. and and now. yeah, we're still here. >> and how are you? how are you and your wife holding up? because you're. they're on a really special occasion. you're celebrating your wedding celebrating your 30th wedding anniversary and sounds as anniversary and it sounds as though just into

though it's just turned into chaos. >> yes, i would say yeah, yeah. full um no contact from full chaos. um no contact from easyjet . just telling us while easyjet. just telling us while being dictated to when we can get back home. um, we do fly home now, tomorrow. so homeward boundin home now, tomorrow. so homeward bound in the morning . home now, tomorrow. so homeward bound in the morning. um, looking forward to me. full engush looking forward to me. full english breakfast when i get back. >> well, richard, how easy was it for you to sort out that flight back? i suppose a sigh of relief that you do now have a flight secured, but i suppose that was a long time in limbo. were the companies that you were talking to any help at all? >> not really. >> not really. >> easyjet . i spoke to them. >> easyjet. i spoke to them. they sent me an email out two nights ago. um please give us a ring in the morning. uh, nights ago. um please give us a ring in the morning . uh, we've ring in the morning. uh, we've got some flights going back . um, got some flights going back. um, first come, first serve basis. so i was on the blower to them and, and i was on there for about an hour and 30 minutes. we got to the crunch where they

were offering me two flights to fly back. yes today. and as soon just as they said, they've got two flights for me, the line cut off. and then it took me an hour to get back in touch with them. wow. >> so, richard, have you been able to enjoy the extended stay at all enjoy the sunshine at all and enjoy the sunshine and good food, or has it and the good food, or has it really ruined the trip for you to a certain degree, it's been stressful , but we've we've tried stressful, but we've we've tried to make the best of it. >> should we say. >> should we say. >> and what's the situation once you get home? because we're about to talk to our next guest about to talk to our next guest about train strikes because you could that once you could be facing that once you land you . land couldn't you. >> yeah, we should have been flying into manchester, which obviously we're from stoke. so it's nice and easy. but now they've got us flying into gatwick and the train strikes on tomorrow. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so it's all fun at the fair. >> so it's all fun at the fair. >> so it's all fun at the fair. >> so what's the current situation? have you checked out what you can do from gatwick,

what you can do from gatwick, what your options may be, or could you just be on a very delayed service, supposedly, supposedly in a coach on for us? >> but i don't really fancy a four hour journey from here. a three hour journey up to stoke. so so i'm going to get one of the family members come pick us up, i think. >> oh, well, richard. yeah. >> oh, well, richard. yeah. >> luck to you tomorrow >> best of luck to you tomorrow . thinking of you. . so we'll be thinking of you. hopefully all runs smoothly hopefully it all runs smoothly for let's hope plane for you. let's hope that plane takes let's hope you get takes off and let's hope you get yourself train as thanks yourself a train as well. thanks for joining us. >> thanks yeah, forjoining us. >> thanks yeah, no, i >> thanks very much. yeah, no, i suppose think sometimes. suppose you can think sometimes. oh, extra couple of days oh, another extra couple of days on holiday. how the on holiday. how lovely the sunshine, but but sunshine, i think. but but i suppose the stress of all. suppose the stress of it all. not one, is the not knowing, number one, is the insurance going to cover it. are the companies going to cover it? when actually going to when are you actually going to get might get going? you might have commitments uk commitments back home in the uk and of course, not knowing which airport to going end up and of course, not knowing which air|it's to going end up and of course, not knowing which air|it's very to going end up and of course, not knowing which air|it's very true going end up and of course, not knowing which air|it's very true actually. d up in, it's very true actually. >> you've got very sensible >> you've got a very sensible outlook. scares just saying outlook. scares me. just saying i'd enjoy the extra sunshine. but right, it's the but you're right, it's the additional expense. it's the stress. not go on >> remind me not to go on houday >> remind me not to go on holiday you. know, holiday with you. you know, you're just there saying you're just sitting there saying to yourself, be the

to yourself, i'll be on the phone get phone stressing, trying to get trying sorted out. trying to get things sorted out. >> is it has >> but the reality is it has been very, very difficult and very, very stressful for lots and of people. know. very, very stressful for lots ancabsolutely. �*ple. know. very, very stressful for lots ancabsolutely. well, know. very, very stressful for lots ancabsolutely. well, let's know. very, very stressful for lots ancabsolutely. well, let's get »w. >> absolutely. well, let's get more travel more on the whole travel situation with the travel situation now with the travel analyst sally gethin for top tips on how to handle what seems to be a very chaotic summer in terms of travel. sally it's extraordinary just talking to richard there. his flights obviously delayed due to that glitch and now the train strikes, too. this is going to affect many, many, many people across the country. >> yeah, absolutely. so it was only a week ago, i think we were talking about travel the bank holiday, and that was a bit uncertain here and there. and now, you know, it's a long now, you know, it's like a long it's a week is a long time in politics, certainly as an air travel. right. who could travel. right. i mean, who could have imagined outage would travel. right. i mean, who could have almostad outage would travel. right. i mean, who could have almostad cthe ge would travel. right. i mean, who could have almostad (the whole ld travel. right. i mean, who could ha\trafficostad (the whole ld travel. right. i mean, who could ha\traffic system (the whole ld travel. right. i mean, who could ha\traffic system to (the whole ld air traffic system to a screeching halt? i just want to say with richard that i have beenin say with richard that i have been in touch with easyjet and they this policy of, you they are this policy of, you know, contacting customers who are stranded on a first come,

first served basis. that's how they're doing it. but they've laid on extra flights. they're taking larger aircraft to their existing , you know, to existing, you know, to destinations and the ba has also put on extra flights . so they've put on extra flights. so they've they've really battled with a situation which wasn't beyond their control and just quickly also on that atc thing, there is supposed to be a preliminary report of an investigation of sorts being presented to the transport secretary on monday. now, some airlines aren't happy with that. and johan lundgren , with that. and johan lundgren, the ceo of easyjet, is calling for an independent review. and actually saying, well, you know what, there needs to be close to scrutiny of not they need to take on more staff. it's not acceptable. this happened, mustn't again because mustn't happen again because airlines bill. and also airlines foot the bill. and also they're in the firing line. really. they're the buffer. you know that take the impact when this well, passengers this happens. well, passengers are. between them and are. but in between them and this air traffic system are the airlines and so yeah a it lots

of questions and to reiterate this entire problem began because one airline filled out a form incorrectly and then it forced everything to go manual. well, we don't know. absolutely. i mean, one news outlet reported that and i haven't seen it corroborated , but it looks that corroborated, but it looks that way from the official statement from nats that it was an external input going into their system. but then to cope with that, because obviously the worst case scenario would be a collision in the air. we don't want that to happen at all. so what did was what happened what they did was what happened was their primary and secondary backup systems are automatically suspended. now how can that happen? they're actually supposed to kick in and compensate, right? so we need to find out . and they're saying find out. and they're saying that's you know, they're actually half owned almost the golden share is by the government. so that's why people are sceptical, airlines are sceptical. is this to going be a genuine report that comes out on monday? we need an independent one. also it's supposed to

one. and also it's supposed to be preliminary they've be a preliminary one. they've said, the results said, oh, we'll make the results public, there's no timeline public, but there's no timeline for that. so yeah , a lot of for that. so yeah, a lot of questions, but it doesn't help people are obviously stranded, although i spoke to the head of abta, which represents travel agents yesterday, and he was saying that in some strange situations, especially if you're retired, no reason to come back to the uk. some people have actually enjoyed the extra time there. you know, in some cases. i'm not saying i know that could be in poor if you really be in poor taste if you really are yeah, it are stuck, but yeah, but it depends situation, isn't it? >> i mean i know somebody just anecdotally who couldn't fly back remember where back from i can't remember where he . but anyway, let's say he was. but anyway, let's say spain. he's got on a european toun spain. he's got on a european tour. he's loads of annual tour. he's got loads of annual leave. and he just thought, i'm just to disappear, just going to disappear, disappear weeks. disappear for a couple of weeks. i that the i mean, but that is the exception rule. i suppose exception to the rule. i suppose most in a situation, most people are in a situation, as we just heard from richard, where stressful as we just heard from richard, whe they've stressful as we just heard from richard, whe they've taken stressful as we just heard from richard, whe they've taken on;tressful as we just heard from richard, whe they've taken on that ;ful and they've taken on that additional is that additional expense. so is that something they will be able to get the airlines? get back from the airlines? what's get back from the airlines? wh yeah, come to that. >> yeah, so let's come to that. so depends how you've booked

so it depends how you've booked your you self your trip. so if you self packaged yourself, paid for packaged it yourself, paid for bits , right? you're bits and bobs, right? you're really risk. say really exposed to risk. so say you car hire might been had to cancel or you may not get that back your accommodation if you booked with a tour operator, you're well covered. and like i said, i spoke to the association for british travel agents and they've that they've had for british travel agents and they'iresponse at they've had for british travel agents and they'iresponse from zy've had for british travel agents and they'iresponse from their had for british travel agents and they'iresponse from their members good response from their members and that those companies are also they offer you a totally new travel package if you've if it's had to be cancelled and you haven't yet embarked on it. but of course, for families, this would have been their last chance saloon right before the new school term where there's going to happen with that. now if there is school school if there is a school school actually where do we end? you know, it's but anyway yeah with airlines you are due refund if airlines you are due a refund if you know you choose not to be rerouted or rebooked. but once you take the rebooking, then you lose your refund, then you lose the refund. and in this case, it's very unlikely you'll get any particular compensation on top because airlines weren't you

know, was well beyond their know, it was well beyond their their yeah, so make their control. but yeah, so make sure you however difficult it is, even if your mobile phone does get cut off or their systems get cut off, stay in touch with the airline because if you just go off rebooking stuff yourself , just check in stuff yourself, just check in with your airline to make sure that you will get that cover. just all receipts and don't just keep all receipts and don't go berserk like, you know , some go berserk like, you know, some luxury as a backup plan. luxury hotel as a backup plan. you know , you keep it sensible. you know, you keep it sensible. >> a quick word on trains. oh, yes, of course. this is all tying in together and no doubt a lot of people trying to get to and from airports will be having and from airports will be having a lot of sickness as well at gatwick express and heathrow express. >> so today, there's no gatwick express and heathrow express is affected as well. it's . so it's affected as well. it's. so it's reduced today. it's supposed to be normal tomorrow. when i last checked. and then but of course, we have the main line rail network system in england badly affected. so today is the aslef , which is the drivers striking.

so no drivers, no trains basically. and then tomorrow they're on a sort of no overtime withdrawal of their hours. so there's a knock on effect. but then rmt kicks in tomorrow. that's all the rail workers as a whole and their forming picket lines today. and also, you'll probably be aware that there's a big deadline with ticket office closures with their consultation, too. but anyway , consultation, too. but anyway, with trains, you really need to check individually with your train operator because, you know, i've been looking at this andifs know, i've been looking at this and it's a patchy situation. it's not like all trains are suspended across the entire network. it varies from each operator . operator. >> and if anything, that's more annoying sometimes false hope and thinking rather than it just all being gone, bits and bobs, being open and not that can be that can be most irritating that can be the most irritating for passengers. >> and you have to >> yes, i know. and you have to be plucky to take be a bit plucky really to take that don't even if it that risk, don't you? even if it looks paper or digitally, you looks on paper or digitally, you can make your journey can you can make your journey because they're interconnected.

the system. and you could the rail system. and you could easily be impacted by another rail operator . it's easily be impacted by another rail operator. it's kind of very patchy and complex. >> yeah . well, sally gethin, we >> yeah. well, sally gethin, we always seem to bombard you with questions. you've always got the answers. thank you so much. really good to see you. okay. yeah, best of luck if you're heading out the rails. yeah, best of luck if you're heaitng out the rails. yeah, best of luck if you're heait doest the rails. yeah, best of luck if you're heait does make 1e rails. yeah, best of luck if you're heait does make meails. yeah, best of luck if you're heait does make me think if elon >> it does make me think if elon musk can get his cars to drive by themselves without a driver, you'd train on you'd think that a train on tracks from to why do tracks going from a to b, why do they drivers these they need drivers these days? honestly? they need drivers these days? hordrivers something >> drivers might have something to tom, do stay to say about that. tom, do stay with we're to going be with us. we're to going be asking ben habib the asylum asking ben habib and the asylum rights at amnesty rights director at amnesty international if they think students make way for students should make way for migrants. you won't to miss migrants. you won't want to miss that. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news more morning. on. gb news more morning. >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news is a bit misty and murky out there. some places stay fairly drab places will stay fairly drab all day see a bit of day. a few will see a bit of sunshine and some places will

see some showers. a bit of see some showers. it's a bit of a as you might imagine a mishmash, as you might imagine . areas . this zone across central areas from midlands northern from the midlands, northern england scotland , england into southern scotland, staying drab rain and staying drab from rain and drizzle times , particularly drizzle at times, particularly to east of the pennines , to the east of the pennines, further spells, further south, brighter spells, better coming through, better sunshine coming through, but a sprinkling of but equally a sprinkling of showers over the midlands , wales showers over the midlands, wales and southern england this afternoon , much of northern afternoon, much of northern scotland fair dry scotland against that fair dry and of a chilly start and fine bit of a chilly start this morning, by this this morning, but by this afternoon be to 20 afternoon we'll be up to 20 celsius, 22 or 23 across the south. feels a lot cooler in this cloudier zone over northern england and northern ireland. and still some rain and drizzle here. this evening. any showers scattered further south scattered about further south this fade away. so this evening will fade away. so many have a dry night with many will have a dry night with clear spells turning a bit chilly once more across northern scotland, well down into single figures here. some towns and cities in the south staying in the teens on to saturday. and for many, it's a fine day. could again start some mist and again start with some mist and fog. morning. but that fog. tomorrow morning. but that should away . there'll be should clear away. there'll be some cloud bubbling up and 1 or

2 scattered showers. but the vast majority will have a fine day tomorrow with lengthy day tomorrow with some lengthy spells the sunshine spells of sunshine. the sunshine likely to turn fairly hazy in the far north with maybe some rain in here later. but rain pushing in here later. but mostly with sunny mostly dry and bright with sunny spells a warmer. spells feeling a bit warmer. and for of us, it's going to be for most of us, it's going to be a fine day on to sunday a brighter outlook

gb news. >> good morning . it's 10 news. >> good morning. it's 10 am. on friday, the 1st of september. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with tom harwood and me, ellie costello coming up for you today. back to school chaos. >> thousands of pupils forced back into lockdown style lessons and parents left in limbo as crumbling, unsafe classrooms are closed across the country . closed across the country. >> does the installation of sunak de—man grant shapps mean there will be less money for britain's defence stranded abroad and then stranded once you get home? >> fresh train strikes cause misery across the uk, bringing britain to a standstill . britain to a standstill. >> a strike too far despite nhs waiting times, being at a record high, junior doctors and consults agents will walk out together in a historic joint strike. could this put patients lives at risk .

lives at risk. >> and of course, we love heanng >> and of course, we love hearing what you have to think on all the stories of today. particularly do get in touch if you have a view or are affected by the lockdown style. stay at home orders. some students are receiving across the country today with these crumbling schools and aerated concrete. >> yeah . are you a parent left >> yeah. are you a parent left in limbo . let us know. in limbo. let us know. vaiews@gbnews.com. but first, let's get a news bulletin with . rihanna >> ali thank you. good morning . >> ali thank you. good morning. it's coming up to 10:02. your top stories from the newsroom . top stories from the newsroom. the government's being urged to publicly reveal which schools are affected by a particular kind of concrete that's prone to sudden collapse. thousands of children face disruption ahead of their return to class after

safety warnings were issued, forcing the immediate closure of some buildings. more than 100 schools, nurseries and colleges have had to make urgent relocation plans and some children may be forced back into remote learning schools minister nick gibb told gb news the government's prioritising safety. >> we took this decision as swiftly as we could. we had to look at the evidence we had to discuss that evidence with experts shirts. we had to make sure had plans in place for sure we had plans in place for what would doing when what schools would be doing when they told that they they were told that they probably needed to address this. what was previously regarded as low risk back in their schools . low risk back in their schools. but it's the right decision and it's the most cautious decision i >> shadow justice secretary steve reed told us more should have been done if they'd put the measures in place at the beginning of the summer holidays. >> parents wouldn't be finding out now. just days before the start of the school that start of the school term, that their child has not got a school to go to. and if you just

imagine parents imagine how exhausted parents are a long summer are after a long summer holidays, the holidays, after all the disruption of the of the pandemic, after all of the disruption of the strikes that the government to the government refused to intervene help out as intervene in to help sort out as well. now more disruption with just when the just days of notice when the government could have done something at the beginning of the summer that they didn't. it is neglect and it is incompetence on the part of the government. >> another wave of strikes hits rail passengers today, bringing services the country to a services across the country to a standstill. members of the aslef union are staging a 24 hour walkout, leaving many trains without drivers . the rail without drivers. the rail delivery group describes the strike as unnecessary, but the union says the government's refusing to make a reasonable pay refusing to make a reasonable pay offer . the dispute, which pay offer. the dispute, which started over a year ago, remains at deadlock , with no talks at deadlock, with no talks planned and no sign of a breakthrough . general secretary breakthrough. general secretary of aslef mick whelan says they'll keep striking until a reasonable pay offer is made . reasonable pay offer is made. >> but the reality is that we have not seen the transport ministers since last december

and we haven't seen the rail minister since the bad minister since the act of bad faith january and we haven't faith in january and we haven't seen erg since the deal they put to us with our red lines in that set fail in april. set up to fail in april. >> we've been here now for the best part of 14 months. if it takes another 14 or takes another 14 months or another years, still be another 14 years, we'll still be here. and at point somebody here. and at some point somebody is come is going to have to come and talk and resolve this situation. >> two former leaders of far right group, the proud boys, have been jailed on charges relating to the storming of the us capitol building in washington . joseph us capitol building in washington .joseph biggs and washington. joseph biggs and zachary rell were convicted of sedition conspiracy for trying to overturn donald trump's 2020 election defeat at their prison terms of 15 and 17 years are below us sentencing guidelines and far lower than the 30 year term sought by federal prosecutors. both broke down crying with rell, saying he let politics consume his life and lost track of who and what matters . back here, house prices

matters. back here, house prices fell in august at the sharpest annual rate in 14 years, according to nation's guide, the banking giant says annual house pnces banking giant says annual house prices fell by 5.3% last month, bringing the average property value to £259,000. it's the biggest annual drop since july 2009. direct line will pay £30 million in compensation to customers who've been overcharged , charged whilst overcharged, charged whilst renewing their insurance. the company admitted to an error in implementing new pricing rules, which came into effect at the start of last year. the financial conduct authority brought in the new rules to protect existing customers from being quoted higher prices than new customers changes to vaccine programmes will make it easier for people to get protected , for people to get protected, ultimately, saving lives . that's ultimately, saving lives. that's according to the nhs. almost 1 million more people will now be

eligible for a shingles vaccine . the hpv jab offered to children in a bid to eliminate cervical cancer will go from two doses to one. the changes will start on the 11th of september for and fergus jocelyn and debbie, just some of the storms , as we might expect next season. the met office says there being named after the very people working to protect us from them. meteorologists name storms only when they're expected to have a medium or high impact on people . high impact on people. forecasters say it helps communicate the seriousness . of communicate the seriousness. of a storm. it'll be the first time the traditional male and female ordering of names will be ordered altered . this is gb news ordered altered. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by simply saying play gb news now it's back over to tom and . ellie

back over to tom and. ellie >> good morning. welcome back. you're watching britain's newsroom with me and tom harwood. the time is 10:07. and our top story today that we are talking about is this potential lockdown return to some schools. they will be shut over. fears of them suddenly collapsing because of the type of concrete that was used to build them. so there is this last minute scramble for many students and their parents to head back, really to lockdown learning and learning at home online. a lot of these schools were very quickly the were built very quickly in the 19505 were built very quickly in the 1950s and 1960s, using a type of concrete known as aerated concrete. >> it was only meant to last 30 years. and here we are 70 years later. these buildings still standing and now deemed to dangerous in many cases for any children to go inside them . but children to go inside them. but you've been getting in touch on this issue, and i have to say it hasn't been a united inbox this morning . craig has written in to morning. craig has written in to say stop the rubbish. i have worked with concrete all my

working life and concrete doesn't suddenly collapse at all. >> but craig, i suppose you'd say to that you probably couldn't risk it, could you? >> and also, have you been working with aerated concrete, this special type of cheapo concrete that has been deemed to be a bigger risk ? be a bigger risk? >> yeah. do you let us know, craig? helen says there are loads of vacant office buildings currently loads of vacant office buildings currenthorking from home. of people working from home. of course. office space people working from home. of couruse office space people working from home. of couruse them office space people working from home. of couruse them as office space people working from home. of couruse them as classrooms�* people working from home. of couruse them as classrooms . a and use them as classrooms. a job done and sorted whilst the building work takes place because is a good because that is a very good point helen, because could point helen, because this could take long time if these take a very long time if these buildings rebuilt, buildings need to be rebuilt, that could take years, couldn't it? >> although i wonder if whether schools are is precisely the same place where office same place as where the office buildings be a bit buildings are. it might be a bit of a commute for students to get to school. >> there's trains running. >> there's no trains running. >> there's no trains running. >> no trains. >> there are no trains. nothing's has nothing's working. susan has written say the government written in to say the government is it's beyond is utterly useless. it's beyond them to contact. is it beyond them to contact. is it beyond them to contact every local authority affected, to identify every empty village hall community centre, empty office and council meeting rooms that

could be repurposed as temporary classrooms. good suggestions there . yeah, julie says. there. yeah, julie says. >> in my home town of burnley, the schools have been rebuilt >> in my home town of burnley, the consolidated been rebuilt >> in my home town of burnley, the consolidated duringzbuilt >> in my home town of burnley, the consolidated during the .t and consolidated during the conservative term . a conservative government term. a lot of money has gone into levelling up. so it is a question now of available funds. not these schools can be not all of these schools can be rebuilt at once. >> yeah, this is affecting, of course, 105 schools england . course, 105 schools in england. so there are many, many schools where there's not affecting them. course , thousands them. but of course, thousands and of students that and thousands of students that could see that dreaded could see see that dreaded return to online learning. >> yeah. and if it affects you, please let us know. vaiews@gbnews.com. and just a quick word on nessie because we have been talking about the loch ness morning. ness monster this morning. the most exciting photos ever released were being told this has taken by a photographer called che kelly. she's 51. she actually took these photographs. i think we've got a picture of them which we can show you back in 2018. this does look in 2018. now, this does look like the real deal me, to be like the real deal to me, to be honest. looks like a honest. it looks like a crocodile or something. >> looks like couple >> to me. it looks like a couple

of now she says she truly >> no. now she says she truly believes that there is something in loch ness. she says, what i saw looked like a serpent . it saw looked like a serpent. it was definitely a creature. and it was definitely moving. it was a very strange movement, she said. it is not driftwood. it is absolutely a strange creature . absolutely a strange creature. >> isn't it remarkable that everyone says everyone who says they can see this serpent that's moving. they can never produce video evidence in fact, the number of sightings of nessie seem to have fallen precipitously just as the rise of smartphones and everyone having a mobile video recording device on them has risen. i don't think that's a coincidence. >> well, i don't know. i feel like this. while she's describing bombshell describing it as bombshell evidence and apparently there has been local hunters there last weekend and they have video evidence that could change her mind . mind. >> well, perhaps they should show me video because i'm show me that video because i'm not potentially . not buying it potentially. >> let me just share this >> well, let me just share this with who is with you from marion, who is from born bred. with you from marion, who is fron saw born bred. with you from marion, who is fronsaw nessie, born bred. with you from marion, who is fronsaw nessie, didn bred. with you from marion, who is fronsaw nessie, did she? bred. with you from marion, who is fronsaw nessie, did she? oned. with you from marion, who is fronsaw nessie, did she? on the she saw nessie, did she? on the shore at fort augustus abbey in

the late 1970s. she saw it . she the late 1970s. she saw it. she then gave her account japanese and german television companies . i saw a crocodile with scaly skin. now put up this photo again of our lovely photographer, che kelly. is that not a crocodile with scaly skin? it's exactly the same for those listening on the radio. >> it's a couple of rocks in the water. it's not a monster. it's not real. it's exactly the same. it's a waste of time. it's it's a silly season story . we may be a silly season story. we may be in the 1st of september, but this is still an august story. >> i'm telling you it all. it's all coming together now. you're going get video evidence all coming together now. you're goinyou'llet video evidence all coming together now. you're goinyou'll be video evidence all coming together now. you're goinyou'll be on. video evidence and you'll be on. >> a feeling inbox >> i have a feeling the inbox will on my side. i think gb will be on my side. i think gb news viewers and listeners are rational to the core and don't believe at the bottom believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden. >> well, it interests >> well, look, it interests the japanese and the german television it's television companies, so it's great for scotland, of great pr for scotland, of course. let us know course. do you do let us know what you think of that story. it's definitely talking. it's definitely got us talking. gb gbviews@gbnews.com. it's definitely got us talking. gb more 3views@gbnews.com. it's definitely got us talking. gb more serious'gbnews.com. it's definitely got us talking. gb more serious news. ls.com. now it's a more serious news. let's do shall we? let's do that, shall we? yesterday the prime had yesterday the prime minister had a reshuffle of his cabinet

a minor reshuffle of his cabinet following the expected resignation defence secretary resignation of defence secretary ben wallace in his resignation letter, ben wallace emphasis the increase in defence spending that occurred during his tenure as well as the challenges that britain has faced , including britain has faced, including afghanistan, ukraine and sudan. >> well, the new defence secretary is grant shapps, who's previously, of course was the secretary of state energy secretary of state for energy security net zero. but this security and net zero. but this is grant shapps, fifth cabinet minister job within is grant shapps, fifth cabinet ministerjob within in just one minister job within in just one yeah minister job within in just one year. do you remember the three days he was home secretary well, he's replaced at disney's by claire coutinho, a close ally of the prime minister, who's only been an mp since 2019. she's the sixth holder of the energy portfolio since 2020. it's all getting fairly messy, but a wider reshuffle is expected later this year. >> there's lots to go through, isn't there? well, joining us now to discuss the latest change at the ministry of defence is former of defence former deputy chief of defence staff. general sir staff. lieutenant general sir simon . really good to see simon mayo. really good to see you this morning, sir. morning,

tom. what do you make then of grant shapps in at defence? >> well, i think i could say and i liberty since i'm retired to say i don't think under any military professionals judgement grant shapps would have been anybody's first choice. we're at the tail end of a government or certainly before election. we're in the middle of a big crisis in ukraine. we're always talking about rising challenge of about the rising challenge of china. are very keen to china. we are very keen to sustain our credibility with the americans. we are still pushing through elements of the integrated defence review, including cuts, and i think most people within defence would have liked someone dodi who had an instinct for defence, understood the language and i'm not saying grant shapps doesn't know the difference between a platoon and a aircraft carrier , but a aircraft carrier, but credibility counts . so he credibility counts. so he inherits a big portfolio at a very interesting time and the, you know, all the rhetoric is how important defence is. you know, the security threats to the country, etcetera . and then the country, etcetera. and then you bring a relative novice in.

and i would rather somebody with a diplomacy obviously defence or security background , foreign security background, foreign foreign policy background , foreign policy background, because the military are part of your very much part of your foreign policy and your diplomatic and your prosperity agenda. >> it is fascinating ben >> it is fascinating though. ben wallace had respect from wallace had such respect from not just across the political aisle in the united kingdom, but really around the world. is it is it a bit of bitterness, perhaps , that his resignation perhaps, that his resignation comes after he was snubbed for that nato secretary—general role? i'm sure it is. >> i mean, i couldn't speak for him. obviously i think it was a great disappointment and i think the reality was that we had a defence secretary at that stage with a genuine credibility to be put forward, to be the political head of one of the most successful security alliances in head of one of the most suc

there of reasons there are all sorts of reasons why he get it. i'm sure why he didn't get it. i'm sure other other people's internal politics. but as i say , we're politics. but as i say, we're going to send grant shapps in an ably supported, of course, by by the chief of defence staff, the chiefs, the permanent under—secretary into into nato conferences and across across the atlantic. >> given you say, all of that infrastructure there, the chief of the defence staff and all the rest of it there is that infrastructure to support. does it matter that grant shapps doesn't have military doesn't have a military background, if he's doesn't have a military backg tomd, if he's doesn't have a military backg tomd, sort if he's doesn't have a military backg tomd, sort of if he's doesn't have a military backg tomd, sort of a if he's doesn't have a military backg tomd, sort of a manager going to be sort of a manager rather a soldier, sometimes rather than a soldier, sometimes it's have , for it's useful to have, for example, health secretary example, a health secretary who's not a doctor, who's not sort of viewing themselves. you're beholden. you're not beholden. >> that. is >> i get that. there is stockholm often stockholm syndrome. there often is with the military. and we're a attractive , excellent a very attractive, excellent ministry to look after. and, you know, soldier sailors , men and know, soldier sailors, men and women, you know, they're very , women, you know, they're very, very commendable people and defence secretaries do go out and meet our wonderful you know, soldiers and servicemen and women. but the important thing is, i hope he's got enough

self—awareness and i'm sure he does. he's a good front man for the government. i he's the government. i know he's very, on, the government. i know he's very, 0h, on, the government. i know he's very, on, on, on very, very slick on, on, on, on on television and radio. the problem is , once you start to problem is, once you start to get below the surface , just how get below the surface, just how much credibility have you got on on really serious issues which are life and death for individuals for and national agendas, but equally , he's agendas, but equally, he's a friend of the prime minister you know, he could if i was making a suggestion to him, say, i'll keep defence off the domestic political radar screen. it's clearly going with the international side. when we talk ukraine, would you what about stopping the final set of cuts to the army manpower cuts because it does seem a bit counterintuitive to be going on about how dangerous the world is and continue to cut make cuts in the manpower. >> what if we cast our mind back to the tory leadership race? grant shapps at the time actually spoke about defence spending and he wanted it raised to now sunak has promised to to 3. now sunak has promised to keep it at 2.5% or get two for

now, get to 2.5% was 2.5. yes does that give you hope that at least he would follow in ben wallace's footsteps in that sense of wanting to get up the defence spending? yes. >> and i think, you know, i don't say rishi sunak doesn't support that . we do know the support that. we do know the pubuc support that. we do know the public finances are not in a good shape . the treasury will good shape. the treasury will always bearing down. we have always be bearing down. we have procurement issues that i think, you know, the ministry of defence must take their own fair share the blame over. but if share of the blame over. but if grant is at least grant shapps is at least aspirational and has the support of the prime minister, that that is an ambition we should be aiming for. that is a good message for defence that although he's not a defence or foreign policy expert , but he foreign policy expert, but he does understand within, you know, the ambition of the national ambition and our relationships with other countries that a well funded defence, the money properly used, of course is something that would be good for him, good for the party to espouse and good for him as a, as a defence secretary to go for within within realism. >> there is of course , the

>> there is of course, the accusation that the only reason he's been placed is he's been placed in there is because such a close ally because he's such a close ally of the prime minister. is because he'll put defence back in an in its box. he won't be an issue, won't making issue, he won't be making arguments the cabinet arguments around the cabinet table sort of drag yet more table to sort of drag yet more money into the defence budget . money into the defence budget. are people in the defence world worried about that ? worried about that? >> i think even under ben wallace we were having worries because i think at the moment we are, i would say underfunded. again, always say we don't again, i always say we don't always our money well , well always use our money well, well as well as we could do with big defence procurement, but there will be a feeling that he is rishi sunak man and that's either good for defence or it could be bad for defence. in the case that actually has his case that he he actually has his own objectives that own political objectives that don't, don't, don't sort of correlate with being a defender of the ministry of defence and the servicemen and women that that, that represents and we send out to do the business on behalf the government and the behalf of the government and the nafion behalf of the government and the nation . nation. >> lieutenant general sir simon mayo, see you mayo, really good to see you this thank you so much this morning. thank you so much

for time. thank you. for your time. thank you. >> i really, interesting, >> i really, really interesting, though, in terms of the implications for the decision, what is going on in rishi sunak's mind in terms of why he's making these these very particular and particular little moves and grant shapps is golden. >> it would seem cabinet >> boy, it would seem cabinet very, very close. >> mean , as soon as he dropped >> i mean, as soon as he dropped out leadership he out of the leadership race, he was that helped was the guy that helped introduce at his introduce rishi sunak at his leadership . he's been leadership launch. he's been very rishi sunak very close to rishi sunak throughout whole time that throughout the whole time that he's been prime minister and indeed before . and who could indeed before. and who could forget his heady three days as home secretary in the in the final days of the liz truss ministry. tom was very upset that it was his day off yesterday and he actually missed this mini reshuffle. i did. normally on normally i'd be standing on downing street yesterday i downing street and yesterday i was i was just at home. was i was just just at home. >> did think of you do let us >> i did think of you do let us know what you make of that mini reshuffle. one expected on reshuffle. one expected later on in well. who would in the year as well. who would you like to see in in significant roles? do let us know. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> , with the cost >> well, with the average cost of a school uniform now at

of a new school uniform now at around 2 to £300, many families will be struggling to afford shop prices this september. well, in order to try and help parents who might be struggling, uniform banks have been set up all over the uk . all over the uk. >> well, our north—west of england. reporter sophie reaper is in rochdale now and shares with us what kind of impact this is having. sophie good morning to you. tell us more . to you. tell us more. >> good morning to you both. yeah, you said it there, tom. to £300. now the average school uniform and the cost of living crisis is just making everything even harder for families. all over the uk. i'm at this one here in rochdale this morning where last year they gave out over 7000 items of school uniform . so to tell us more, uniform. so to tell us more, joining me now is julie. good morning to you, julie. thank you. tell me about what you do at this food bank. you uniform bank sorry a uniforms for all. >> yes thank you. this is us. if we have got it, you can have it . we have a facebook page and

requests come in on there. if we've got it , we send it requests come in on there. if we've got it, we send it out. donations come in via our libraries and the co—op services and we have our local housing association and are very active with us. we are very multi all over the community with health workers, social workers, churches , schools, any community churches, schools, any community centre does. we get donations in, anybody can request anything for school, uniform, coats, shoesif for school, uniform, coats, shoes if we've got it. as we say , they can have it. >> last year i know you gave out over 7000 items, but in the last four weeks alone, tell me about what the experience has been like. it is just absolutely unbelievable , really. unbelievable, really. >> we last year in one year, we did 520 families. we helped in this last four weeks, we have had 240 families requesting items. so you can see how much in four weeks is over 3000 items. so we're clearly well, well beyond what we would have

ever imagined. and of course , ever imagined. and of course, we're also asked for other things such as underwear, bras , things such as underwear, bras, socks and we have run a bra programme , um, because we don't programme, um, because we don't realise that we have bra poverty in this country. so it leads you to more things . yes. but as we to more things. yes. but as we say, if we have it, you can have it. >> absolutely. thank you so much for your time this morning. juue for your time this morning. julie i think you summed it up very well there, that families just there in need. and because of the cost of living crisis, uniform is something that you may not automatically think of because we talk about heating and eating, but that is one expense that is now we're in september . lots of families are september. lots of families are going to be very stressed about it. >> well, sophie, thank you so much for bringing that. and much for bringing us that. and it's a it's a good story in it's a it's a good news story in a that the communities are a way that the communities are coming together to out coming together to help out through difficult times. but it's very british, isn't it? >> very british. isn't it >> very, very british. isn't it so sad in the first place, you need like a uniform need something like a uniform bank. for bank. yeah well, £300 for clothes. bank. yeah well, £300 for clotltzs. seem extortionate.

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in arms , which is the fact that in arms, which is the fact that in arms, which is the fact that in huddersfield and university, students are being turfed out of university accommodation to make room for asylum seekers . room for asylum seekers. >> yeah, it's really quite extraordinary. now, this is state of the art student accommodation, not just the standard halls that you might think . it's standard halls that you might think. it's got a gym. yeah and it's, it's very modern as well . it's, it's very modern as well. >> i'll have to say my university college had a gym and i did not did not use it once. >> oh really ? maybe not. to be >> oh really? maybe not. to be fair, maybe the maybe the migrants in this story will make good make good use of it. >> but we'll be talking about that shortly . coming that very, very shortly. coming up. we're going up. first, though, we're going to get a little catch up on the morning news with your headlines in which going to hear at in which we're going to hear at about half past with rihanna. >> jones yes, of course. but in the meantime, on the migrant story, we'll be debating that very, very shortly. do let us know you that know what you make of that story. a student or story. if you're a student or perhaps a grandparent or perhaps you're a grandparent or a a student, would you a parent of a student, would you like to see them moved out and a

migrant that very migrant moved in to that very glamorous accommodate glamorous student? accommodate do let us know. gb views gb news. but now. >> it's time for your >> now it's time for your headunes >> now it's time for your headlines with rhiannon jones . headlines with rhiannon jones. >> thank you. good morning . it's >> thank you. good morning. it's 1030. your top stories from the newsroom. the government's being urged to publicly reveal which schools are affected by a type of concrete prone to sudden collapse. thousands of children face disruption ahead of their return to class after safety warnings were issued , forcing warnings were issued, forcing the immediate closure of some buildings. more than 100 schools, nurseries and colleges have had to make urgent relocation plans , and some relocation plans, and some children may be forced back into remote learning . another wave of remote learning. another wave of strikes hits rail passengers today, bringing some services across the country to a standstill . members of the aslef standstill. members of the aslef union are staging a 24 hour walkout, leaving many trains

without drivers. the rail delivery group describes the strike as unnecessary, but aslef says the government's refusing to make a reasonable pay offer. well, that is the transport secretaries meeting aviation chiefs as thousands of passengers remain stranded abroad . services to and from the abroad. services to and from the uk were restricted for hours on monday following an air traffic control glitch and house prices is fell in august at the sharpest annual rate in 14 years, according to nationwide . years, according to nationwide. and the banking giant says annual house prices fell by 5.3% last month , bringing the average last month, bringing the average property value to £259,000. it's the biggest annual drop since july 2009 , and you can get more july 2009, and you can get more on all of those stories by logging on to gbnews.com . direct

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cinema room and gym. it's much nicer than my student. >> well, much nicer than mine as well. should students be making way migrants ? that's our way for migrants? that's our question this morning. well joining us to discuss this is the and current the former mep and current reform party advisor ben reform uk party advisor ben habib and the refugee and asylum rights director at amnesty international, steve valdez . international, steve valdez. >> simmons. steve, let's start with you . have we got this story with you. have we got this story right ? i mean, it seems almost right? i mean, it seems almost unbelievable to me that students expect to move into this particular accommodation and have been told suddenly that they can't get . they can't get. >> well, i think the only thing that perhaps you're not quite getting right at the in this story is who's responsible . all story is who's responsible. all students are being made to make way essentially for the home secretary she has created an ever growing enormous backlog of people who are stuck in her asylum system . and she is asylum system. and she is casting around ever more widely

at ever more great expense for places simply to put people. and unless and until she starts doing determining the claims of the people so that people can get out of her system , either get out of her system, either allowed to stay because they are entitled to asylum or steps taken to return them to places they have come from. if they are not out, if she will not decide the claims, the backlog will get bigger and the home office will keep casting around for ever more places to essentially store people . people. >> okay, ben habib, let's put this over to you then. is this the fault of the home secretary >> well, i can't disagree with anything steve said. >> i mean, as a matter of fact, if you don't deal with the asylum applications , you're asylum applications, you're going to have a whole load of people all needing accommodation . and whichever way you cut this cake, it seems to me that there's no change out of £50,000 a year to house feed, care for

and provide cash and other services to an asylum seeker. you know, if you look at the cost of the bebe barge, that works out at about £50,000 per head. you look at hotels, it head. if you look at hotels, it works out at about £50,000 a head. and even though the student accommodation, which is isn't affront to the students and obviously to the university town is much cheaper on the face of it, actually the cost that of £200 a week i think which is the cost of a flat, you know, doesn't include all the ancillary services which are going to be needed to be provided. so last year and this is the big thing for the united kingdom, i think leaving aside the social implications of unbridled and illegal migration, the big thing was that it cost us £4 billion to look after about 80,000 people. and of course, that bill is rising. it's rising quite fast . and it's rising quite fast. and unless we get a grip of the problem, we're not going to find any way out of this either

economically or from a social fabnc economically or from a social fabric perspective in any , any fabric perspective in any, any time soon. and the only way to get rid of the problem, the only way to stop it, to stop the problem from getting bigger, is to stop the boats in the channel and turn them yes we've and turn them round. yes we've got to deal with those that have already made it to our shores, but unless we want be but unless we want to be completely overrun , our hotels completely overrun, our hotels taken our student taken over our student accommodation, taken over , we've accommodation, taken over, we've got to get the political courage and will required to enforce our international rights under the un convention of law of the sea . stop the boats as they seek to illegally enter our territorial waters and turn them round . that waters and turn them round. that is the only solution that we can go on about the echr leaving the european convention of human rights. we can go on about new domestic legislation like the illegal migration act, national a&e and borders bill. we can come up with cockamamie plans like rwanda . nothing's going to like rwanda. nothing's going to work . the only thing that will work. the only thing that will work. the only thing that will work is actually physically stopping the boats and sending

them back to france, which just a reminder , viewers, is a a reminder, viewers, is a completely safe country. >> and steve, what do you say to that? because there are people like ben who make the case that that's the humane thing to do. it stops people drowning at sea i >> -- >> if anyone takes a look and pauses for a moment at the boats overcrowded with people plainly not seaworthy and what it would mean to try and entice except by simply turning back one of those boats , they will quickly boats, they will quickly understand that that is a fast route to essentially murdering people at sea. we will see many more capsizes and many more deaths . of course, that is not deaths. of course, that is not in keeping with international law, which requires us all nafions law, which requires us all nations and not just nations for that matter , people at sea to

that matter, people at sea to protect human life . if there is protect human life. if there is one way and one way only out of the utter mess the government has created, it is to stop listening to mr habib and others. it is to get back to the business that we expect of every other nation, particularly those in europe , who receive many more in europe, who receive many more people into their asylum systems as it is. take your response abilities that arrive on your shores. process the claims of the people who do so. manage a fair and efficient asylum system and grant refuge to those who are entitled to it . we demand are entitled to it. we demand france does that at and on the whole to a far larger extent than us. it does so . but for than us. it does so. but for some people particular people who have strong connections here, there will continue to be journeys . if we provide no journeys. if we provide no alternatives . so deal with their

alternatives. so deal with their claims, please . claims, please. >> okay. ben habib and steve valdez—symonds , thank you so valdez—symonds, thank you so much for joining valdez—symonds, thank you so much forjoining us this morning much for joining us this morning and thank you for your thoughts as well. i'm afraid we're out of time. ben habib, otherwise we would, come back to would, of course, come back to you. do let us what you. do let us know what you make of that debate there. what side sit on? let us know side do you sit on? let us know what students side do you sit on? let us know what for students side do you sit on? let us know what for asylum students side do you sit on? let us know what for asylum seekers?ts side do you sit on? let us know what for asylum seekers? gb make way for asylum seekers? gb views. gbnews.com. >> neither ben nor steve wanted students to for asylum students to make way for asylum seekers, but huge, huge differences opinion there differences of opinion there on how with the numbers how to deal with the numbers that coming in in the first that are coming in in the first place. really, really interesting . no doubt you'll interesting. no doubt you'll have a view gbviews@gbnews.uk now junior and now junior doctors and consultants in england will strike on the same days together. >> for the first time in the history of the nhs, junior doctors have already staged five walkouts year and have now walkouts this year and have now voted to continue their strikes from the 20th to the 22nd of september. >> the first day coincide with that walkout by consultants . that walkout by consultants. >> well, the announcement comes after new figures revealed that more than 120,000 people died

whilst waiting for treatment last year. well, here to help consider what the future might look like is gp dr. lawrence gerlis really good to see you. dr. gerlis. this is significant, isn't it ? isn't it? >> yes , tom, thank you for >> yes, tom, thank you for asking me . it is significant and asking me. it is significant and patients will suffer and patients will suffer and patients will suffer and patients will die and that's the main take out from this , that main take out from this, that this is bad for patients, it's bad for the health service . as bad for the health service. as you said, people are dying on the waiting list already . and the waiting list already. and this is going to make it worse, although in general terms, i've always supported the junior doctors and to some extent the senior doctors in their pay demands . the point i've made is demands. the point i've made is that these strikes have not worked. tom, you said there have been five strikes. so far. what have they achieved ? i think the have they achieved? i think the tactics are wrong . i think it's tactics are wrong. i think it's a very bad look for doctors. i think people are beginning to lose respect for doctors in general who can walk away from

their patients in this way. general who can walk away from their patients in this way . and their patients in this way. and i've asked the doctors to consider other tactics such as work to rule, because the striking doesn't work. in fact, on the contrary , i think it on the contrary, i think it plays into the government's hands what many doctors who are striking would say is that they're doing this out of the goodness of their own heart . goodness of their own heart. >> it's because there's a supply crisis in the number of people who are going to work in the nhs. doctors are leaving for countries like australia, which yes, might have different way yes, might have a different way that their health that they run their health system, more private system, much more private involvement the rest involvement and all the rest of it, therefore more money. it, and therefore more money. but basic case but don't they have a basic case there countries do there that other countries do pay 7 pay doctors more? >> yeah, well, as you say, tom, australia , which has a mixed australia, which has a mixed private public system where people have insurance so they can afford to pay their doctors more. and maybe that's what we should be looking at here. look, you're right at the beginning of these strikes, the doctors tried to frame it as we're trying to save health service. i no save the health service. i no longer believe that. look how much being done to

much damage is being done to the health service. the strikes are about pay and as i said, may well be justified. but we can no longer accept that the doctors are doing it to save the health service for the future, because what they're doing is significant damage to the health service , which may never recover service, which may never recover from . we're seeing 1000, 2000 from. we're seeing 1000, 2000 people per week in excess of excess deaths , and that's going excess deaths, and that's going to continue . and we haven't yet to continue. and we haven't yet hit the winter crisis. you wait till this december , things are till this december, things are going to get a lot worse . so going to get a lot worse. so this is not saving the health service . even if they got the service. even if they got the pay service. even if they got the pay rise , we'd be in a terrible pay rise, we'd be in a terrible mess . mess. >> okay. dr. laurence gerlis , >> okay. dr. laurence gerlis, very good to see you this morning. thank you so much for your thoughts on that issue, which, say, is only set which, as you say, is only set to worse. isn't it, as we to get worse. isn't it, as we get into the winter stark well, still looking still to come, we'll be looking at stories today with at the top stories today with nichi and peter whittle. nichi hodgson and peter whittle. >> anywhere

& co weeknights from . six & co weeknights from. six >> good morning. it's 1046 & co weeknights from. six >> good morning. it's1046 and you're with britain's newsroom here on gb news with me, tom harwood and ellie costello. >> yes, it's time to go through the top stories today. and joining us this morning is author and commentator nicky hodgson the new hodgson and director of the new culture forum, peter whittle . culture forum, peter whittle. very good morning to you both. very good morning to you both. very to have you both with very good to have you both with us. and peter, let's start with you, shall we? this is a story that caught my eye this morning in times. hampton court in the times. hampton court palace is telling its visitors how charge in

london. >> this is actually a fascinating story for all sorts of reasons. it's in all of of reasons. it's in all three of the morning. you the papers this morning. you know, we had the ulez charge coming week. and coming in this week. and of course people been course, people have been destroying things . destroying cameras and things. but hampton but this comes from hampton court palace, which actually court palace, which is actually run by the historic palaces charity . see, what what it is, charity. see, what what it is, is that when you approach a hampton court, you're okay. when it comes to the ulez charge . but it comes to the ulez charge. but when you leave, you immediately go into it. so they are putting on their website saying don't, don't turn that way , turn this don't turn that way, turn this way. right i admire them for doing that, you know, because the fact is , hampton court the fact is, hampton court palace, along with other places like chessington zoo and places like chessington zoo and places like that, they are court right in the middle of this outrageous charge, you know, and so they're actually sort of helping people. and i think they provided a pubuc and i think they provided a public service. >> i think i suppose it's interesting, nikki, because this isn't like sort of those who are vandalising cameras or anything. this is perfectly legal. it's

saying just use this exit. not that one. absolutely. >> i don't really know why everyone's gotten such a hoo ha about actually, because it's about it, actually, because it's not bring any money in not going to bring any money in if hampton court they go if hampton court palace, they go around and not that around this way and not that way. think perfectly way. and i think it's perfectly reasonable any property reasonable for any any property that expects people to come and visit give those visit to give those instructions, actually instructions, because actually people put people are remarkably easily put off like, know, off by things like, you know, how times in london? how many times in london? certainly i live in london, how many times have i said, you many times have i said, oh, you know, i'm not going to bother because a strike on because there's a strike on or the you know, the road's closed or, you know, it's tricky to get it's just too tricky to get there. so i think it's perfectly reasonable. and, you know, hampton palace of hampton court palace is of national a national importance. it's a beautiful know, beautiful place. it's, you know, it's exhibitions are it's kind of exhibitions are out of and the that of this world. and the idea that they because of they would suffer because of ulez preposterous , really. >> it does it highlight >> but it does it does highlight , doesn't it, those on the , doesn't it, for those on the outskirts ulez boundary, outskirts of the ulez boundary, especially if you're a small business. >> w- business. >> the anger. e the anger. i business. >> the anger. i know >> you know the anger. i know you've lot this you've covered it a lot this week gb news, but the anger week on gb news, but the anger about this is just off the charts and i'm quite right charts now, and i'm quite right too. mean, the fact is it's too. i mean, the fact is it's £12.50. if you don't pay it, the fine is huge. i think it's

something like £150 pretty quickly . and also people are not quickly. and also people are not convinced, quite rightly, that this is actually be a sincere thing . you know, that this is thing. you know, that this is not about air quality. this is actually about attacks, you know, being put on on cars that are considered unsuitable. you know, we've even had the situation again, which came to light where the only person, the only kind of academic who's actually said air quality is improved and is in fact someone who gets money from the mayor. he's at imperial college. you know , i mean, but of course, know, i mean, but of course, what the mayor would say and what the mayor would say and what saying all week what he's been saying all week is only affects 10% of cdl’s. >> cars. >> if you drive a classic car, it's not covered. if you drive a car, petrol after 2006, it's not covered. most people will be not affected by the ulez expansion. >> well, i think a lot of people, otherwise there wouldn't be such anger. i think businesses are to businesses are going to be seriously and also it's seriously affected and also it's just an ongoing war. tom, really, on the idea of the car.

i mean, that's what this is all part of . and if you're not part of. and if you're not careful , this mayor is going to careful, this mayor is going to just suck all the lifeblood out of this city. i think, you know, the hampton court stories might seem like a small one, but you know, in a way it's indicative actually , of the general actually, of the general attitude, which is people do not like this. >> no, people don't. but i think what is important to say, peter, is , you know, there are so is that, you know, there are so many instances now children many instances now of children that suffering that are really suffering with asthma and respiratory problems because there because of the quality of there in there are children in london, there are children that died . that have died. >> you know, these are parents that for that have campaigned for years about also, go about this. and also, let's go back who introduced this back to who introduced this policy. boris policy. actually, it was boris johnson who wanted to do this. first all, i might johnson who wanted to do this. first have l, i might johnson who wanted to do this. first have l, i'm might johnson who wanted to do this. first have l, i'm not ht johnson who wanted to do this. first havel, i'm not sort of well have been i'm not sort of standing up for, you know, boris or the tories or anything on this. >> what's been fascinating is that, on that, in fact, air quality on the which i use a lot, i the tube, which i use a lot, i don't whether do, is don't know whether you do, is actually appalling. nothing from the mayor that. the mayor about that. >> i that's that's a >> yeah i mean that's that's a very valid point. there's no air quality issues everywhere because money from it. >> but he could have done more

to do, you know, he could have raised to do, you know, he could have raisthere so many other >> there were so many other areas have if areas he could have gone to if he just make money. he wanted to just make money. i do think he actually believes in this policy. what think the this policy. what i think the problem is that he's problem with it is, is that he's not it properly to not selling it properly to people. saying, people. instead of saying, i know hurts i know this really hurts you, i know this really hurts you, i know is to hit all of know this is going to hit all of us use cars. i know it's us who use cars. i know it's going to your business going to make your business difficult, we have to do it difficult, but we have to do it for the sake our children. for the sake of our children. that's how to sell it. that's the it. it's for the whole point of it. it's for people's health. the whole point of it. it's for peowhat health. the whole point of it. it's for peowhat health the health issue? >> t- issue? >> the thing is, when you >> yeah, the thing is, when you say, know, should care say, you know, he we should care about and all the of about kids and all the rest of it, i mean, the fact is, look, it's the smoking. it's it's like the smoking. it's a smoking you if smoking argument. you know, if you really much about you really care so much about health, just ban cigarettes. that's say. there's that's what people say. there's a that. he should do a logic to that. he should do that right? why he that with cars, right? why he does is because it's a money does it is because it's a money maker . does it is because it's a money maker. that's why it is. and similarly cigarettes, you similarly with cigarettes, you know, is goes straight similarly with cigarettes, you knthe is goes straight similarly with cigarettes, you knthe government.es straight similarly with cigarettes, you knthe government. it'straight similarly with cigarettes, you knthe government. it's a|ight similarly with cigarettes, you knthe government. it's a form to the government. it's a form of revenue what this of revenue to that's what this is about. you're being of revenue to that's what this is abway you're being of revenue to that's what this is abway too. you're being of revenue to that's what this is abway too. i you're being of revenue to that's what this is abway too. i say u're being of revenue to that's what this is abway too. i say you're ing of revenue to that's what this is abway too. i say you're being way, way too. i say you're being naive about his motives . naive about his motives. >> actually, i don't think so. i mean, i have a baby daughter. >> live the outskirts

>> we live in the outskirts of london. policy london. this policy would positively health. london. this policy would posi know, health. london. this policy would posi know, she's health. london. this policy would posi know, she's six health. london. this policy would posi know, she's six months|. london. this policy would posi know, she's six months old. you know, she's six months old. i am already concerned about what air she's breathing in. and i'm not obsessive about it. i'm not like that about my health ehhen not like that about my health either. but the point is, if a policy that will only affect 10% of people can be brought in, that positively stop her that will positively stop her having respiratory problems and hundreds of hundreds and thousands of children , often children around, you know, often the poorest children in london. let's be honest about let's be really honest about that, honest that, although let's be honest about the 10% as well, because it's the 10% of richest or it's not the 10% of richest or most expensive cars. >> the perhaps >> it's the 10% of perhaps cheapest, oldest cars. >> of they cost >> the issue of what they cost isn't isn't the matter. it's the it's they're it's the fact that they're polluting. if the more polluting. if the if the more expensive polluting, expensive cars were polluting, well, but well, then go after those. but it happens that they're it just so happens that they're not know, the really not so, you know, the really unfortunate about climate unfortunate thing about climate change and getting on of the change and getting on top of the climate that all of us climate crisis is that all of us will make will have to make some sacrifices . now, people aren't sacrifices. now, people aren't honest about absolutely agree with do not like is honest about absolutely agree witifact do not like is honest about absolutely agree witifact that do not like is honest about absolutely agree witifact that governments ke is honest about absolutely agree witifact that governments go s the fact that governments go after the smallest people. they go after . they us make take go after. they make us make take on burden of sacrifices. on the burden of sacrifices. when, you know, businesses and

factories and isn't it isn't it the case? >> hang on, hang on, hold on, hold on. peter. nicky. because isn't it the case that if you go after factories, then they put their ? that affects their prices up? that affects little people as well. not little people as well. is it not the case that when rishi rishi sunak or starmer sunak or or sir keir starmer stands up and says , we're stands up there and says, we're going to have a green industrial revolution, going to revolution, everyone's going to be it. they're revolution, everyone's going to be telling it. they're revolution, everyone's going to be telling the it. they're revolution, everyone's going to be telling the wholerey're revolution, everyone's going to be telling the whole truth. not telling the whole truth. everyone's price i >> -- >> we'll -_ >> we'll be dead. if we don't do this, be dead anyway. this, we'll be dead anyway. i mean, anyway sooner mean, i'll be dead anyway sooner then but the point then this happens. but the point is, we will literally wipe out the human race if do get the human race if we do not get control of the climate crisis. >> is catastrophe talking, >> this is catastrophe talking, which ridiculous. which is just quite ridiculous. right? peter. it right? well, it's not, peter. it is solid that is so scientifically solid that we hurtling towards . we are hurtling towards. >> oh, nicky, look at the fires that we've just had in europe and livelihoods. finish. >> w- w— finish. >> finish. you basically >> let me finish. you basically said why governments said then why do governments pick small people? that pick on the small people? that is what khan is doing . is exactly what khan is doing. you mean you're contradicting yourself? i'm not contradicting myself. >> what i'm saying, if you've got an older or cheaper car and that many say older that includes many say older people example, maybe people, for example, who maybe have for retirement

have bought a car for retirement things, not picking on things, but he's not picking on peter and nicky. >> have run to the end of the >> we have run to the end of the segment. we this up segment. we will pick this up later show because, my later in the show because, my goodness, feisty. and goodness, it has got feisty. and thank much for being thank you so much for being with us on britain's newsroom. us here on britain's newsroom. much including much more to come, including more reshuffle. stay more on that reshuffle. stay with us. >> looks like things are heating up, boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. a fine day in scotland. sunny spells here, but showers elsewhere and perhaps some longer spells of rain for a time as a number of weather fronts clear through, they are clearing low pressure is disappearing through the rest of the day . is disappearing through the rest of the day. high is disappearing through the rest of the day . high pressure builds of the day. high pressure builds for the weekend . for the time for the weekend. for the time being, though, the remnants of some rainfall clearing from the southeast, leaving behind a few showers for england and wales . showers for england and wales. some heavy downpours in places actually, especially north wales and then later east anglia in the area of cloud

the south—east, an area of cloud as well as some patchy rain for northern ireland, northern england of england and the far south of scotland. but the lion's share of the sunshine in northern scotland here, 18 20 celsius scotland here, 18 to 20 celsius low 20s further south where we do some sunshine coming do get some sunshine coming through, quite in through, feeling quite humid in the south actually. any the south actually. but any heavy showers do tend to disappear into the evening, most places turning dry overnight. the across central areas the cloud across central areas sinks south. it tends to lower a little, leading to some misty conditions by dawn . a mild night conditions by dawn. a mild night in the south. but where we've got clear skies and the odd fog patch in the north of scotland, temperatures in the mid single figures . so fresh start for figures. so a fresh start for northern scotland . any fog slow figures. so a fresh start for no clear, scotland . any fog slow figures. so a fresh start for noclear, buttland . any fog slow figures. so a fresh start for no clear, but eventually fog slow figures. so a fresh start for no clear, but eventually a)g slow figures. so a fresh start for noclear, but eventually a sunny/ to clear, but eventually a sunny day here. elsewhere, a lot of cloud first thing. and actually as the cloud bubbles up and lifts , there could be a few lifts, there could be a few showers. once again , but they showers. once again, but they tend to fade away later and by and large, it's a fine day. more fine weather to come sunday onwards as it looks like things are heating up, boxt boilers,

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channel good morning. >> it's 11 am. on friday. the 1st of september. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with tom harwood and me, ellie costello coming up for you today. back to school chaos. >> forced >> thousands of pupils forced back lessons back into lockdown style lessons and limbo as and parents left in limbo as crumbling, unsafe classrooms are closed the country, closed across the country, shuffling chairs. closed across the country, shuwhat's chairs. closed across the country,

shuwhat's fallout 5. rishi >> what's the fallout from rishi sunak's mix around? sunak's ministerial mix around? and the key to and could it be the key to turning his ailing polls? turning around his ailing polls? >> police starting to >> are the police starting to wake up with fresh announcements? this week? we'll be looking new play be looking at a brand new play that's noises, met that's satirise noises, the met police journalist. it's police and even journalist. it's like us. >> as the clock ticks down with only on football only one hour left on football transfer deadline day, former england star carlton palmer bnngs england star carlton palmer brings us up to speed. the latest . news latest football. news >> and of course, through it all, we want your thoughts and opinions. don't forget to write in to gbviews@gbnews.com. we'll be some those be getting to some of those a little what do you little later on. what do you make of this potential new lockdown learning for thousands of across country of students across the country thanks to crumbling school buildings? we'll get to that after news with rhiannon jones. >> thank you, tom. good morning . 11:01. your top stories >> thank you, tom. good morning . thei. your top stories >> thank you, tom. good morning . the gb)ur top stories >> thank you, tom. good morning . the gb newsroom.ies >> thank you, tom. good morning . the gb newsroom. the from the gb newsroom. the government's to government's being urged to publicly schools publicly reveal which schools are particular are affected by a particular kind of that's prone to kind of concrete that's prone to sudden collapse. thousands of children ahead children face disruption ahead of class after of their return to class after safety warnings were issued, forcing the immediate closure of some buildings. more than 100 schools, nurseries and colleges have urgent have had to make urgent relocation plans and some children forced back children may be forced back to remote schools remote learning. schools minister told news minister nick gibb told gb news the government's prioritising

safety. >> e"- em— >> we took this decision as swiftly we we to swiftly as we could. we had to look had to look at the evidence, we had to discuss with discuss that evidence with experts. to make sure experts. we had to make sure we had place what had plans in place for what schools would be doing when they were probably were told that they probably needed was needed to address this what was previously as risk previously regarded as low risk rack schools. but it's rack in their schools. but it's the decision. it's the the right decision. it's the most cautious decision. >> shadow secretary >> but shadow justice secretary steve reed told us that more should done if they'd should have been done if they'd put place at put the measures in place at the beginning summer holidays. >> parents wouldn't be finding out before out now, just days before the start that start of the school term, that their child has not got a school to to. and if you just to go to. and if you just imagine to go to. and if you just imatore summer holidays, are to along summer holidays, after all the disruption the after all the disruption of the of pandemic, all of of the pandemic, after all of the the strikes the disruption of the strikes that refused that the government refused to intervene out intervene in to help sort out as well. disruption with well. now, more disruption with just the just days of notice when the government done government could have done something beginning of government could have done sonsummer beginning of government could have done son summer they nning of government could have done sonsummer they didn't.»f government could have done soneglecter they didn't.»f government could have done soneglecter it they didn't.»f is neglect and it is incompetence part the incompetence on the part of the government another wave of government that another wave of strikes hits rail passenger hours today, bringing some services the country standstill. >> wi standstill. >> the aslef union >> members of the aslef union are hour walkout, >> members of the aslef union are many hour walkout, >> members of the aslef union are many hotwithoutjt, leaving many trains without drivers. the rail delivery group describes strike as describes the strike as unnecessary, says unnecessary, but the union says the government's refusing to make a reasonable pay offer. the dispute, make a reasonable pay offer. the displago, remains year ago, now remains at deadlock with no talks planned and breakthrough. deadlock with no talks planned and secretary)reakthrough. deadlock with no talks planned and secretary ofakthrough. deadlock with no talks planned and secretary of aslefrgh. deadlock with no talks planned and secretary of aslef mick

general secretary of aslef mick whelan until a reasonable pay striking until a reasonable pay offer is made. >> is that we have >> the reality is that we have not ministers >> the reality is that we have not last ministers >> the reality is that we have not last december. ministers >> the reality is that we have not last december. mhaven't >> the reality is that we have not las'rail:ember. mhaven't >> the reality is that we have not las'rail minister mhaven't seen the rail minister since the act january and act of bad faith in january and we since the we haven't seen erg since the deal with red deal they put to us with our red lines in that set up to fail in april. here for april. we've been here now for the 14 if the best part of 14 months. if it another months or it takes another 14 months or another we'll still be another 14 years, we'll still be here. and some point somebody here. and at some point somebody is come is going to have to come and talk resolve situation. >> w-- >> two former leaders of far right group, the proud boys, have charges have been jailed on charges relating have been jailed on charges reltcapitol building us capitol building in washington. biggs and washington. joseph biggs and zachary convicted of zachary powell were convicted of seditious, seditious conspiracy for trying to overturn donald trump's 2020 election defeat their prison terms of 15 and 17 years are below us sentencing guidelines and far lower than the 3030 year terms sought by federal prosecutors. both broke down crying with rail, saying he let politics consume his life and lost track of who and what matters . house prices fell in matters. house prices fell in august at the sharpest annual rate in 14 years, according to nationwide . and the banking nationwide. and the banking giant says annual house prices

fell by 5.3% last month, bringing the average property value to £259,000. it's the biggest annual drop since july 2009. direct line will pay £30 million in compensation to customers who've been overcharged whilst renewing their insurance . the company their insurance. the company admitted to an error in implementing new pricing rules, which came into effect at the start of last year. the financial conduct authority brought in the new rules to protect existing customers from being quoted. higher prices than new customers . changes to new customers. changes to vaccine programmes will make it easier for people to get protected, ultimately saving lives. that's according to the nhs . almost 1 million more nhs. almost 1 million more people will now be eligible for a shingles vaccine. the hpv jab offered to children in a bid to eliminate cervical cancer will go from two doses to just one. the changes will start . on the

the changes will start. on the 11th of september for and fergus, jocelyn and debbie , just fergus, jocelyn and debbie, just some of the storms you might expect next season. the met office says they're being named after the very people working to protect us from them . protect us from them. meteorologists named storms only when they're expected to have a medium or high impact on people . forecasters say it helps communicate the seriousness of a storm. it'll be the first time the traditional male and female ordering of names is altered . ordering of names is altered. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speakers by saying play gb news now it's back over to tom and . now it's back over to tom and. ellie welcome to britain's newsroom here on gb news. >> and i have to say a lot of you have been getting in contact with us about all the stories that we've been talking about today. but one of the ones that has particularly been leading the discussion is this crumbling

schools issue that may well be leading to a sort of form of lockdown for thousands of students across across the country. why? because buildings are being deemed unsafe in over 100 schools in england due to aerated concrete , cheap concrete aerated concrete, cheap concrete that has really past its sell by date. >> yes . and it's thought that >> yes. and it's thought that this could now be prone to sudden collapse . and. q about sudden collapse. and. q about 104 schools in england are being told they cannot open, as expected, on monday. there is this scramble for many families in england where children will not be able to attend school . not be able to attend school. they will have to learn at home and those parents will be forced once again to home school. if you are one of those parents or those families that are scrambling childcare now scrambling for childcare now from monday, do let us know. vaiews@gbnews.com is going to be very, very difficult and challenging weekend for so many. and course after the covid and of course after the covid lockdowns, reminder lockdowns, it's just a reminder of those really challenging times. >> it begs huge, huge questions for government . but perhaps

for the government. but perhaps let's discuss some of the implications this. now we're implications for this. now we're joined former government joined by the former government special adviser , james price . special adviser, james price. james, this is such a such an interesting story and it's so relevant to you. perhaps because you have both been a special adviser in the department for education in and you've been an adviser in the treasury. now both of these departments are being blamed for this. >> yeah, it's a difficult one. and of course, the heart of it is the potential for something really catastrophically tragic to happen. right. and so safety has to be first issue. and has to be the first issue. and it's also because the it's also sad because the department education , department for education, something worked something i've been i've worked at, , i've quite at, as you say, i've been quite critical of ways critical of in all kinds of ways , actually, the schools rebuilding is really rebuilding programme is really good. schools are good. the new schools that are getting fancy net getting built, they're fancy net zero things, the zero things, good for the environment, zero things, good for the environment , they're nice, environment, they're nice, they don't in the winter don't go freezing in the winter and made of concrete don't go freezing in the winter and crumbles made of concrete don't go freezing in the winter and crumbles afterie of concrete don't go freezing in the winter and crumbles afterie (years. rete that crumbles after 30 years. but the difficulty is in the conversations every conversations that every department ends up having with the centre . and the treasury in the centre. and of that the of course it's right that the treasury value for treasury has to get value for money. the bits money. it's one of the only bits of whole the public sector

of the whole the public sector that desperate to that isn't always desperate to spend as possible. spend as much money as possible. all the money has to be all the time. money has to be spent you're spent well, but when you're building public buildings like schools and we all think that the provide the state should provide education for those that can't afford private afford to pay for private schools that , schools and things like that, actually the actually you end up keeping the asset on the asset side of the balance sheet. actually it's balance sheet. so actually it's not wasted not really money being wasted because you still own the property, land and property, still own the land and all those of things. so we all those sorts of things. so we tried really hard when nadhim zahawi education zahawi was the education secretary in the last spending review more the review to get more money for the schools rebuilding programme. and fortunately, treasury and then fortunately, treasury brain doesn't see it quite brain doesn't see it in quite the not blaming brain doesn't see it in quite the politicians, not blaming brain doesn't see it in quite the politicians, the blaming brain doesn't see it in quite the politicians, the general the politicians, but the general ethos some civil ethos of some of the civil servants is not to servants there is not to encourage this kind of spending as we is necessary. >> the spending >> so in the last spending review over review which was presided over by rishi sunak, you asked for more money to rebuild these schools, to make sure these schools, to make sure these schools were safe and he said, no, no, no, no. >> so there's a conversation that and forth all that goes back and forth on all kinds and kinds of different areas. and one the that we really one of the areas that we really wanted schools wanted more was for this schools rebuilding programme to go faster. the argument that faster. and the argument is that you asset you get to keep the asset on that of the balance sheet

that side of the balance sheet and therefore doesn't look and therefore it doesn't look like as much of a cost in these ways. you go back and forth ways. and you go back and forth and whether and all kinds of areas, whether it's for covid it's the catch up for covid or whether of whether it's other kinds of tuition , all these kind tuition, all these other kind of areas back and forth, areas and in the back and forth, we think that wanted for we think that we wanted more for this kind this because. exactly this kind of risk. it's it's not of risk. and it's not it's not that minister's fault, that the prime minister's fault, but officials who but it is various officials who don't see that way. and don't see it in that way. and those horrible those sorts of horrible internecine arguments that happen . but this is happen in between. but this is why really why i think it's really important, because if one of these then these things falls down, then you just can you imagine the tragedy of it? >> absolute worst >> well, it's absolute worst case scenario and can see case scenario and you can see why absolutely want to why you would absolutely want to avoid there will be avoid that. but there will be questions about it has questions asked about how it has got this how we got to this point. how have we had a six week holiday? we had a six week holiday? now we have for have this absolute scramble for parents who essentially will have children at home on monday. they will have to be teaching them laptop once again in them from a laptop once again in them from a laptop once again in the covid lockdowns. i the style of covid lockdowns. i mean, we heard from john oxley at morning. one of our at 930 this morning. one of our guests said engineers guests who said that engineers were flagging this were were really flagging this up as an issue. and 1995, that was almost 30 years ago. yeah, i mean, i can remember some of the

school buildings that was school buildings that i was taught fall down. >> wi t football >> if you hit a football against them too hard and we've gone a long way since then, there's an awful improvement. awful lot of improvement. i just think and awful lot of improvement. i just tiguess and awful lot of improvement. i just tiguess it and awful lot of improvement. i just tiguess it probablyd i guess some of it will probably come it's come down to the fact that it's so difficult build so darn difficult to build anything country anything in this country anymore. know, can you anymore. you know, can you imagine is some imagine that if this is some other of concern of other nimby kind of concern of people diggers to people not wanting diggers to be coming rebuilding coming in and rebuilding things in know, tom, in the way that, you know, tom, i know, it's very i know, you know, it's very difficult get i know, you know, it's very difficin get i know, you know, it's very difficin this get i know, you know, it's very difficin this anymore. built in this country anymore. and the result. and this is the result. >> sometimes, heaven forfend, a tree and tree might have to come down and maybe might live in maybe a rare bird might live in that suddenly, all that tree. suddenly, all the interest say interest groups in the land say nothing can built, nothing interest groups in the land say nothe| can built, nothing interest groups in the land say nothe changed. uilt, nothing interest groups in the land say nothe changed. it.t, nothing interest groups in the land say nothe changed. it is nothing interest groups in the land say nothe changed. it is verying can be changed. it is very expensive to build in this country. is that potentially one of here? recently, of the problems here? recently, the campaign group britain remade revealed that infrastructure in this country costs about four times as much to build than it does in france, for example . for example. >> yeah, and it's really maddening. again whichever department you end up being in trying to get these various department you end up being in trying donet these various department you end up being in trying done and se various department you end up being in trying done and it's'arious department you end up being in trying done and it's good; department you end up being in trying done and it's good that things done and it's good that we don't live in a system, obviously like china where they can bulldoze down can literally just bulldoze down things don't take any things and don't take any account of anything. you have to

bnng account of anything. you have to bring with you. but bring people along with you. but i there much i think that there are much better coming now i think that there are much bette some coming now i think that there are much bette some of coming now i think that there are much bette some of think|g now i think that there are much bette some of think tanks now i think that there are much bette some of think tanks , ow from some of the think tanks, the institute the adam smith institute that i'm moment i'm working out at the moment have ideas have all sorts of good ideas about don't like about this. if people don't like it and going to be it and they are going to be negatively affected and you know, there's building works going , we going on, it's noisy, we don't like you find like it, then can you find a way to mentioned to compensate it? you mentioned france. around france. people that live around nuclear stations in nuclear power stations in france, their energy france, they have their energy paid for them. and that's a massive boost for right we massive boost for them. right we did those sorts of things. and you compensate the you compensate people for the negative that they negative externality that they face. then maybe their disagreements were, well, you raise raise raise energy and you raise nuclear power in i think is nuclear power in what i think is a because of a fantastic segway because of course, there has been mini course, there has been this mini reshuffle this week and some people have raised the question mark over this. >> we have got grant shapps now on his fifth department of the last 12 months. and yet again, another new face being the energy secretary. he is that bad for energy strategy . for energy strategy. >> he i don't think it will be. i think there's always the risk when these things happen. and i think that far too often people have been around often

have been moved around too often . outgoing . ben wallace, the outgoing defence secretary, he was in post four years, widely post for four years, widely considered the best, most popular of the cabinet. popular member of the cabinet. then great job on ukraine, then a great job on ukraine, partly got stay partly because he got to stay in there long grant, there for so long and grant, bless move bless him, has had to move around all these different departments. gets departments. let's hope he gets a continue a nice, long tenure to continue the done. the work that's been done. on the work that's been done. on the you've got the energy point you've got someone who is young , someone now who is young, exciting, dynamic, brilliant , exciting, dynamic, brilliant, full of ideas, unlike perhaps we're talking about claire coutinho, unlike some of her colleagues, has not given up. is not going quietly that good not going quietly into that good night desperate show night and is desperate to show that conservatives can still that the conservatives can still win ideas. and win and have some ideas. and have all with have you worked at all with claire time claire coutinho in your time because just the most because she is just had the most exponential rise, really. >> she's only been an mp since 2019 and now she's going to be the person sat around the youngest person sat around the cabinet table. >> an amazing 38 >> yeah, it's an amazing 38 years old. >> puts me to shame. >> it puts me to shame. >> it puts me to shame. >> mum called morning >> my mum called me this morning and said, what are you doing with ? i worked with her with yourself? i worked with her a when were a little bit when we were special advisers together. a little bit in government as well. she is whip smart. some people will be saying, oh, isn't it great to another woman it great to see another woman around cabinet table from an

around the cabinet table from an ethnic are important. things are important. but i think viewers are think your viewers are discerning that's think your viewers are discerni most that's think your viewers are discernimost important that's think your viewers are discerni most important thing.it's think your viewers are discthe most important thing.it's think your viewers are discthe most inof rtant thing.it's think your viewers are discthe most inof hert thing.it's it's the content of her character . it's the brain full character. it's the brain full of that got top of ideas that she's got on top of ideas that she's got on top of it's of her shoulders. i think it's the perfect appointment for exciting new energy security stuff we need. we've seen stuff that we need. we've seen the problems that can happen in energy the energy at the moment with the russian on in ukraine, russian war going on in ukraine, just there and how just the horrors there and how that's knock on effect. that's had a knock on effect. look turned look at germany. they've turned off their nuclear off all their nuclear power plants tearing wind plants. they're tearing upwind turbines put coal power turbines to put coal power stations back in again. but the green party , this is absolutely green party, this is absolutely bonkers. and hopefully it was someone like claire at the helm of can get itself its of britain. can get itself its energy and reach some energy security and reach some kind net zero at some point kind of net zero at some point as well. >> really emu-l em" >> really, really good to get that and that insight from you. and just briefly, of briefly, what do you make of grant defence now? grant shapps as defence now? because some very because there were some very big names in that hat, weren't there? about there? we were talking about penny mordaunt, tom tugendhat, even at one point. even johnny mercer at one point. what do you make of grant shapps now think people have written >> i think people have written him off before. i work grant him off before. i work for grant very a long time ago and very briefly a long time ago and he think he always bounces back. i think he's surprise people on he's going to surprise people on the has laid the upside. ben wallace has laid a foundation and not to be

a great foundation and not to be too much of a suck up, i think he's going a great job and he's going to do a great job and people a chance. he's going to do a great job and peookay. a chance. >> okay. >> okay. >> james price, thank you >> well, james price, thank you very much for talking us through. remarkable we through. and it's remarkable. we booked , obviously, booked james price, obviously, before we knew what the big stories of today would be. and he just slotted all his he just slotted all of his previous jobs government just he just slotted all of his prepreciselys governmentjust he just slotted all of his preprecisely . government just he just slotted all of his preprecisely . it's|overnment just he just slotted all of his preprecisely. it's just nment just he just slotted all of his preprecisely . it's just such|t just fit precisely. it's just such a great booking. thomas very excited about this. >> so you much , >> so thank you very much, james. it's really good to see you. >> oh, goodness me . >> oh, goodness me. >> oh, goodness me. >> number homes sold >> now the number of homes sold this year expected this year is expected to reach its a its lowest level in more than a decade. low house prices and higher mortgage rates mean many buyers can't afford them. buyers simply can't afford them. >> it's estimated that 1 million sales will go through this year. that's the equivalent of the average household moving once every 23 years. >> well, joining us now is the head of economics and social policy policy exchange , policy at policy exchange, warwick lightfoot. very good to see you this morning. i mean, perhaps no surprise, really , perhaps no surprise, really, that people just simply cannot afford to move home. >> well, first, i should say i'm no longer head of economics at policy exchange. i moved on

about a year and think about a year ago and i think clearly the question you've got at the moment is house prices went up a very long way. they became unaffordable and then you had a very necessary increase in interest that's going to mean that >> and that's going to mean that the sort of prices you were seeing about two years ago had to come off. >> and on the whole, >> and i think on the whole, it's thing . it's a desirable thing. >> and what do you think will happen next? >> prediction with >> what's your prediction with interest rates? because many are predicting will go predicting that they will go up once in september. it's once again in september. it's very, , very, very difficult very, very, very, very difficult out for people who own out there for people who own their homes . their homes. >> i think they're probably interest rates will have to go up a bit further to get inflation down to 2. >> normally , you've got to have >> normally, you've got to have two things a sustained period of positive real interest rates and a short period when you lose output . output. >> and i think we're going to do this getting inflation down without those things in place, i think it will be disappointed both in the us and in the uk. >> at the moment there's a bit of debate about whether interest

rates peaked. rates have actually peaked. it's a idea, but i think that a nice idea, but i think that they probably haven't . and the they probably haven't. and the other thing i'd say about interest we've had to interest rates is we've had to get back to higher interest rates, to just get inflation rates, not to just get inflation down, get a banking down, but to get a banking system and credit markets that function properly you function properly so that you price credit properly and you don't have zombie companies and you actually have asset you don't actually have asset price bubbles and i think you're going to find these much higher interest rates in place for much longer . longer. >> do pm em“ >> what do you make of the argument that stamp duty as a tax really makes the housing market much stickier than it otherwise would be? stops people downsizing, stops, people moving around and gums up this whole market in a way that if it were abolished or reduced or reformed, perhaps things would move a little bit more freely . move a little bit more freely. >> i couldn't agree with you more. it's not just stamp duty on houses, it's stamp duty on on equities. people wonder why the london stock market's atrophying . one of the issues there that should be looked at is stamp duty. the stamp duty is a it's

great that gets in the way of people doing things they'd like to do. and we used to have stamp dufies to do. and we used to have stamp duties that are at a much lower level about 25 years ago and then success of chancellors thought they could milk it as a source of revenue and pretend that they were somehow taxing the housing market. and all it does, it means the housing market works much less efficiently and people who would like to move house, maybe sell a larger house, go to a smaller one and so on, simply don't do it. >> and is there a small silver lining in any of this for first time buyers in the sense that house prices are coming down somewhat , or house prices are coming down somewhat, or is it more the sense that they actually wouldn't be able to get mortgage? >> well, i think there is a problem with the mortgages, but also the price is coming down is also the price is coming down is a is a very big help. also the price is coming down is a is a very big help . we've all a is a very big help. we've all lived in a world where we're used to house prices in britain going up. you've got you were talking about the planning system a second ago that gets in

the houses. but the way of building houses. but i'm 66. i'm in that middle of that cohort called the baby boomers. and the average age for dying is around 83. but with an average a hell of a lot of people have got to be culled in advance. and that means your advance. and that means in your early in your mid 70s, early 60s and in your mid 70s, so you're going to begin to see this cohort naturally throwing off mortal coil. and they off this mortal coil. and they own properties and those properties are to going come onto the market. i think the sort of debate you had this morning this afternoon about morning or this afternoon about the deficiencies of the planning system means that eventually we're going to get a reform in the there'll the planning system so there'll be supply. be more housing supply. and whether you're going to see houses straightforwardly just going up from these very still very high levels. i think we may see a change in the structure of the pricing of the housing market. >> really interesting stuff there. i suppose it is. it continues to be the case that compared european compared to the average european country, we have 4 million fewer homes, a faster growing population than many european countries as well. and simple

supply demand means we have supply and demand means we have all these problems . no, all of these problems. no, really, really interesting conversation there. and of course, big problems to course, big, big problems to come in the future. no doubts. yes. >> work like, but really good to see you this morning. thank you very, your very, very much for your time. do know you make of do let us know what you make of that vaiews@gbnews.com. that story. vaiews@gbnews.com. >> well, still to come, as the police are under fire again this week, we'll be joined by the director of a west end play that's making waves, waves for reimagining the metropolitan police. find out how after this i >> -- >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello, it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. with the gb news forecast, a fine day in scotland. sunny spells here, but showers elsewhere and perhaps some longer spells of rain for a time as a number of weather fronts clear through, they are clearing . low pressure they are clearing. low pressure is disappearing through the rest of the day. high pressure builds

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news. the people's channel. britain's news. channel >> very good morning. it's 1126 >> very good morning. it's1126 and you're with britain's newsroom here on gb news. with me tom harwood and ellie costello and now this week, the government announced that all crimes must be investigated by the police. it sounds like something that really should have been happening anyway. and the announced the prime minister announced a new ban on so—called zombie knives. it's all part of what's been termed crime week , a focus been termed crime week, a focus on law and order from the government across this week . government across this week. >> but law and order has become an increasingly controversial topic , and a new play in the topic, and a new play in the west end has been satirising the metropolitan police, the accidental death of an anarchist is a comedy about an anarchist which accidentally falls to his death from a police window. accidentally accident . accidentally accident. >> well, joining us now is the director of the play daniel raggett and, daniel, this is a very funny play , but i suppose very funny play, but i suppose it gets to the heart of a pretty serious issue, which is clearly

there is a big question mark over trust in the police. well i think that's got to be a core tenet of policing by consent right . you've got to believe right. you've got to believe there's accountability and trust that when the police are sort of going to do their jobs. that when the police are sort of going to do their jobs . and i going to do theirjobs. and i think you only have to open a newspaper or every day . i mean, newspaper or every day. i mean, it was i think yesterday that the officer who chased the two kids in manchester is now being investigated for dangerous driving. and of you driving. and it's sort of you know, constant know, there's this constant cycle of high profile and smaller , though no less smaller, though no less important, like police abuses, basically . and this play is basically. and this play is a modern reimagining of a much older play by the same name. the italian original death of an accidental death of an anarchist . is this just a sort of a issue thatis . is this just a sort of a issue that is across all cultures, across all countries time immemorial ? i mean, i, i immemorial? i mean, i, i couldn't possibly say, but all i

do know is that the original was based on the death in police custody of a man called giuseppe pinelli in milan in the late 60s. and essentially what dario fo, the original writer did was he took the transcripts of the police sort of trying to worm their way out of culpability and just began to perform them. and the farcical nature of that gave birth to the comedy in itself because , mean, again , because, i mean, if you again, some of the things that we read in the news and excuses that we have for events where the police have for events where the police have sort of are clearly culpable for something . but, you culpable for something. but, you know, the federation managed to rally round. so it was it easy to find humour there? was it easy to sort of poke fun and make mean, there make bigger? and i mean, there are numbers in this. make bigger? and i mean, there are well, numbers in this. make bigger? and i mean, there are well, i numbers in this. make bigger? and i mean, there are well, i think bers in this. make bigger? and i mean, there are well, i think the; in this. make bigger? and i mean, there are well, i think the thingis. make bigger? and i mean, there are well, i think the thing that >> well, i think the thing that was is that we felt was important is that we felt that is a system, so nobody that it is a system, so nobody is safe. right. and left. is safe. that's right. and left. you , essentially what we you know, essentially what we found is that that even if you're it's very easy to be sort of vociferously anti police , but

of vociferously anti police, but at the same time, a lot of the time you just just saying that isn't enough. how do you take action? and so, again, it was important for us that we're we're sort of poking fun at both sides. whole system as sides. and the whole system as well. but it is it's a very it's a very play. but at a very, very funny play. but at the is a really, the core of it is a really, really serious issue. and people will have a tally will you know, we have a tally in of deaths in police in the show of deaths in police custody since 1990 in england and wales, which going and wales, which keeps going up and wales, which keeps going up and up by 11 since and has gone up by 11 since we've been performing the show at haymarket, which only at the haymarket, which is only since heart of this play >> and at the heart of this play is that issue of trust in the police. what do you find is the audience reaction to that, especially in the west end, where we know that trust is at an all time in the an all time low in the metropolitan how do they metropolitan police? how do they engage with play? engage with the play? >> feel it's very >> i think people feel it's very tom basden's adaptation is sort of bang up to date and he continues to rewrite it as more new stories come out the line about bobenheim that was inserted. yeah, there was a line about bodenheimer. yeah, yeah.

which but it's amazing the news cycle nowadays. everything becomes out of date. suddenly so i'm already thinking, what's the next excessively film that next excessively long film that we've got to mention? but i think people what i hope is that people enjoy recognising those references, the oppenheimer references, the oppenheimer references , and that's kind of, references, and that's kind of, that's funny and that's fun . but that's funny and that's fun. but what we managed to sneak in, i hopeis what we managed to sneak in, i hope is genuine facts about police misconduct that are all taken from things like the kc report that people laugh at because it seems so unbelievable . i mean, there's a quote . . i mean, there's a quote. about just the sheer number of officers who were facing misconduct proceedings, who hadnt misconduct proceedings, who hadn't been removed from the force. so this hearing this force. and so this hearing this this week, i think it's got to be that least be progress that at least now those aren't, you know

those officers aren't, you know , in direct contact with the pubuc , in direct contact with the public in their jobs. , in direct contact with the public if in their jobs. , in direct contact with the public if the in their jobs. , in direct contact with the public if the audienceir jobs. , in direct contact with the public if the audience ifjobs. , in direct contact with the public if the audience if people >> so if the audience if people watching want catch the watching today want to catch the last of this last few performances of this show, that not only takes the mick police, but also mick out of the police, but also takes out of judges and takes the mick out of judges and the judiciary and right on journalists, me, journalists, people like me, people as well . people like you as well. how do they do it ? they do it? >> well, you can go if you you can tell them to the theatre, go to the box office. you can go on anarchist west end dot com and buy it finishes anarchist west end dot com and bua it finishes anarchist west end dot com and bua time it finishes anarchist west end dot com and bua time on it finishes anarchist west end dot com and bua time on on nishes anarchist west end dot com and bua time on on the es in a week's time on on the september 9th. and also september the 9th. and i also think important thing to think that an important thing to say after the show say is on tuesday after the show we're doing a talkback with inquest which a brilliant inquest which is a brilliant charity look inquest which is a brilliant char state look inquest which is a brilliant char state related look inquest which is a brilliant char state related deaths. look inquest which is a brilliant char state related deaths. and into state related deaths. and so come along to that well. so come along to that as well. >> daniel, really to so come along to that as well. >> you. daniel, really to so come along to that as well. >> you. and|iel, really to so come along to that as well. >> you. and you really to so come along to that as well. >> you. and you can.y to so come along to that as well. >> you. and you can still to so come along to that as well. >> you. and you can still . to

see you. and you can still. catch tickets for that play as well. not sold out. it's really, really good. thank you so much. thank very much. stay thank you very much. now to stay with going with us, we're going to be talking about football. england player be sharing thoughts talking about football. england plégareth e sharing thoughts talking about football. england plégareth southgate's thoughts talking about football. england plé gareth southgate's latestghts on gareth southgate's latest team selection and our formidable gb news co—presenter mark dolan joins us. so do stay with but first, let's get with us. but first, let's get your rhiannon jones. your news with rhiannon jones. >> ellie, thank you. good morning . it's 1132. >> ellie, thank you. good morning . it's1132. your top morning. it's1132. your top stories . stories. from the newsroom. the government's being urged to publicly reveal which schools are affected by a type of concrete prone to sudden collapse. thousands of children face disruption ahead of their return after safety return to class after safety warnings were issued, forcing the closure of some the immediate closure of some buildings. more than 100 schools, and colleges schools, nurseries and colleges have make urgent have had to make urgent relocation and some relocation plans and some children may forced back into children may be forced back into remote wave of remote learning. another wave of strikes passengers

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players. you know, players. i mean, you know, i can't believe even the even the sides have . sides that have. just been promoted and the sides down the bottom of the league, the amounts of money they're spending , spending is phenomenal, especially of living crisis. >> s it does seem quite stark to so people, but two football >> s it does seem quite stark to so transferple, but two football >> s it does seem quite stark to so transfer deadline wo football >> s it does seem quite stark to so transfer deadline dayootball >> s it does seem quite stark to so transfer deadline day istball fans transfer deadline day is a big occasion , isn't it? yeah big occasion, isn't it? yeah it's massive. >> it's massive. but it's interesting in transfer interesting in this transfer window as that top window as well that the top clubs deals clubs are selling player deals to other clubs, which never to other top clubs, which never was wouldn't was heard of. players wouldn't go tottenham or, go from chelsea to tottenham or, you rarely . you know, or very rarely. you know, to man city avid's going from chelsea to arsenal, very rarely did it happen. but it's happening a lot in this transfer window. and for big money. and, you know, it's quite remarkable.

>> and often we get these >> and very often we get these well, we're i think i think we have to put this into context. >> a people think there's have to put this into context. >.lot people think there's have to put this into context. >.lot moneyyple think there's have to put this into context. >.lot money generatedthere's have to put this into context. >.lot money generated from s a lot of money generated from football, a serious money football, a lot of serious money generated football. if generated from football. and if you out , i was you actually work it out, i was speaking to somebody the other you actually work it out, i was speaif1g to somebody the other you actually work it out, i was spea if you» somebody the other you actually work it out, i was spea if you ifomebody the other you actually work it out, i was spea if you ifome do iy the other you actually work it out, i was speaif you ifome do . the other day. if you if you do. the maths 92 football league clubs average 30 players at each football club, there's actually only you know, 2700, 2800. you know, professional footballers put that in the grand scheme of 60 million and then compare it to the type of money that bankers are earning and whatever. and it's, you know, it's still obscene. and but it is in a little bit more prospective now. >> often get sort of >> we very often get sort of last deals on the last last minute deals on the last possible maybe in last possible day, maybe in the last

. few hours. are we expecting any big deals still to come ? any big deals still to come? >> well well, the one i'm the one i'm really keen to see is the one about mo salah, because they're pushing hard. the one about mo salah, because the the pushing hard. the one about mo salah, because the the saudis] hard. the one about mo salah, because the the saudis ,hard. the one about mo salah, because the the saudis , to 'd. the one about mo salah, because the the saudis , to get him. and >> the saudis, to get him. and that problem that could be a problem for jurgen because the jurgen klopp because the transfer close today transfer window will close today in at at midnight tonight in the uk at at midnight tonight . transfer window in . but the transfer window in saudigoes . but the transfer window in saudi goes another week so saudi goes for another week, so that jurgen klopp no time that gives jurgen klopp no time to mo salah. i mean, you to replace mo salah. i mean, you know, they're . talking upwards . know, they're. talking upwards. of 150 know, they're. talking upwards. of150 million for mo salah i still think that's, you know, if you look at harry kane, go for 100 million and what do you get for 100 million in in terms of the world class players? mo salah and harry kane are the very hard to replace. that's very hard to replace. so that's a and a major a major problem and a major issue liverpool and jurgen issue for liverpool and jurgen klopp. to believe, i klopp. i happen to believe, i think is committed to think mo salah is committed to liverpool club, you liverpool football club, but you

know, , know, the owners might say, listen, 150 million for a for a player who's approaching you player who's approaching 30, you know, it . know, they might accept it. >> cosmos, we've got you. i need to gareth to ask you about gareth southgate. obviously naming his england squad for the upcoming euro qualifiers. know euro 2024 qualifiers. we know raheem squad , raheem sterling in this squad, but jordan henderson has been called into the squad and despite controversial despite his controversial move to in the summer. to saudi arabia in the summer. so you of squad so what do you make of the squad ? it's a bit contradictory. ? well it's a bit contradictory. >> is. know, if >> it really is. you know, if you've have players who are you've you have players who are bangin you've you have players who are bang in form. raheem sterling started banging for started the season banging for it the england it should be in the england squad. been go it should be in the england sq harry been go it should be in the england sq harry maguire been go to harry maguire hasn't played a minutes football in the premier league you can't minutes football in the premier leagie you can't minutes football in the premier leag i e managers you can't minutes football in the premier leag i e managers you ctheir pick i know managers have their go for england go to and i played for england and when i've and i've been picked when i've not particularly not been particularly playing well. you're well. and obviously you're picked done in picked on what you've done in the maguire the past and harry maguire has never i'm never let england down. and i'm not maguire i not picking on harry maguire. i think jordan henderson's the same. i think once he's made that out that move and having come out with he's done that move and having come out withyou he's done that move and having come out withyou all he's done that move and having come out withyou all he'things and you know, all the things he's a bit he's said and done, it's a bit controversial, but he shouldn't be england squad be left out of the england squad and i think and because of that. but i think the football isn't the standard of football isn't going think, the standard of football isn't goir know, think, the standard of football isn't goir know, gareth, think, the standard of football isn't goir know, gareth, i think, the standard of football isn't goirknow, gareth, i think1ink, the standard of football isn't goirknow, gareth, i think in k, the standard of football isn't goirknow, gareth, i think in his you know, gareth, i think in his mind knows mind, thinking he knows that this major this is his last major tournament. so he's going to do it wants do it the way that he wants to do it. but know, you if

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government this week . and you government this week. and you might say, well , why shouldn't might say, well, why shouldn't they? or whatever? well they really shouldn't. they are a charity obe and they went for the government. i've i'm no apologies for the government . i apologies for the government. i would i would add. but in a very crude way. it wasn't just sort of like in a constructive way. it was just your lies, lies, lies . and this is very of lies. and this is very much of a piece with the national trust, you know, with all our institutions that they are gradually becoming far more politicised . and chris packham politicised. and chris packham is well known for being very political. he's one of the vice presidents of the society of protection of birds. but this all centres around the government wanting to loosen controls . on environmental controls. on environmental restrictions to build houses as simple as that. so they're going kind of against the government on this. they're entitled to their view, but not as a charity . and this is , i think, alarming . and this is, i think, alarming people more and more than, in fact the huge numbers , huge

fact the huge numbers, huge amounts of money now going into charities and they pay themselves awful lot . but themselves an awful lot. but when you look all of our when you look at all of our institutions and things that we used respected , used to be very respected, whether it's oxfam, whether it's say, trust, say, the national trust, they are all becoming political. and it's just it's just not on. it's outrageous. nikki what do you make of this? >> because some people watching at donors to the at home might be donors to the rspb, might be members the rspb, might be members of the rspb, might be members of the rspb be they might little rspb be they might be a little bit that the group bit concerned that the group that thought there that they thought that was there to birds to sort of be nice about birds is engaging in student politics. >> well, i think this is the problem of social media, actually, what's actually, because what's happened is, as charities have had be online and, you know, had to be online and, you know, putting social media posts out just to compete with the sheer noise news and information noise of news and information that out they that we have out there, they have taken to being more partisan because as it gets more attention so , you know, as attention so, you know, as a strategy from a social media perspective, it works because we're talking about and we're talking about it. and you know, the rspb obviously have been for of years, been around for lots of years, but it's probably not charity but it's probably not a charity that younger that i imagine lots of younger people or

people know about or particularly subscribe to. i could be wrong on that. but i you know, presuming you know, i'm presuming i'm presuming it to older presuming it tends to be older people are invested in presuming it tends to be older peyi)le are invested in presuming it tends to be older peyi)le understand invested in presuming it tends to be older peyi)le understand whatested in presuming it tends to be older peyi)le understand what peter in it. i do understand what peter is saying, i mean, isn't it is saying, but i mean, isn't it the all charities have the case that all charities have always they just the case that all charities have always been they just the case that all charities have always been open they just the case that all charities have always been open they jitt the case that all charities have always been open theyjit ? the case that all charities have always been open they jit ? i haven't been as open about it? i do think i do think this has been media. been driven by social media. the need being heard and volume need for being heard and volume and debate reaching maybe the echelons. it didn't before, but maybe they're just more private. private about it. >> do charities not have a right, though, to be frustrated? i mean, have actually , it i mean, they have actually, it is they have is important to say they have now for calling now apologised for calling ministers the chief ministers liars, but the chief executive said they are executive has said they are frustrated because there is going to be this plan now to scrap water protection restrictions for housing developments and were developments and they were promised wasn't going promised that that wasn't going to point is, you take >> point is, you can't take these of cases in these kind of cases in isolation. first all, it's these kind of cases in isoljustl. first all, it's these kind of cases in isoljust about all, it's these kind of cases in isoljust about social. it's these kind of cases in isoljust about social media. not just about social media. that was official that was an that was an official that was an official message put out by them. whether or it's on them. whether or not it's on social here social media is neither here nor there. is, is that when there. the fact is, is that when you look at all of these institutions. and indeed, institutions. right. and indeed, you know, we saw it going back 3

or 4 years, didn't we, during this statue situation when we had, you know , all of these had, you know, all of these institutions , decolonising institutions, decolonising calling on this, calling on that. most of them charities , that. most of them charities, even kew gardens . so what i even kew gardens. so what i would say is that all of these institutions have been essentially captured . it usually essentially captured. it usually does emanate from the hr department or from the marketing department. and that they are they tend to be populated by younger people who are absolutely indoctrinated with all of this kind of ideology because it's exactly the same. they all think along the same lines . it's all lines. it's all anti—conservative and it's all woke and the most weird thing here, the most peculiar element of all of this, is that the rspb has received millions of pounds from the government. >> yes , it seems extraordinary. >> yes, it seems extraordinary. the government is paying campaign groups to campaign against itself. yes, exactly . against itself. yes, exactly. >> i think that the problem with this really is that all of this adds up to a permanent kind of

unelected opposition . you know, unelected opposition. you know, and that is the real problem we've got now in this country. >> nikki, i wanted to look at another story in the telegraph, which claiming sickness which is claiming sickness benefits is to be made much benefits is set to be made much harder. tell us more. >> well, i feel like we see this headune >> well, i feel like we see this headline every few years, actually. benefits actually. the idea that benefits have to be more difficult to have got to be more difficult to claim people have got to be more difficult to claiclaiming people have got to be more difficult to claiclaiming them people have got to be more difficult to claiclaiming them and people have got to be more difficult to claiclaiming them and p> so i think that there's a chance that of the huge numbers of people who have now claimed to be long term sick, do you think a chance that think there's a chance that there? >> t- there? >> always going to be >> there's always going to be fraud. there's always benefit of

fraud. there's always benefit of fraud. is in every fraud. i mean, there is in every single single single under every single government. is we government. the issue is that we have that have got people that are so that have got people that are so that have got people that are so that have got often combination have got often a combination of mental physical conditions mental and physical conditions which are kind of working against against each other and making people sicker long term . making people sicker long term. it is very hard get people it is very hard to get people with very severe depression back into for lots of different into work for lots of different reasons. know , one of reasons. and, you know, one of the government the things the government has tried certain tried to do or certain campaigners to the government is kind flexible working kind of buy up flexible working because often very much because that often very much helps people who are considered long term sick, go back into the workforce . but we do workforce. but we really do not understand and the interplay between mental and physical health conditions, you know, the kind of current research now done by the leading psychiatrist and other kinds of doctors say that the kind of really isn't a distinction cartesian distinction and this cartesian thing of seeing the body and mind separate is really not the way should at way we should be looking at health at all. so actually, most people sick people with long term sick conditions health conditions do have mental health problems being problems because being very poorly time is extremely poorly all the time is extremely depressing debilitating depressing and debilitating thing we're talking about. >> think you might have

>> i think you might have mentioned about 2.5 mentioned talking about 2.5 million term million people on long term sickness benefits. sorry i do think that a lot of these afflictions are actually what you might call the ordinary ups and downs of life, which have been pathologised. so now people talk about depression when, for example, they're just feeling a bit down right ? well, the bit down right? well, the culture talks about i don't culture. >> i don't think people's i think we cannot underestimate the mental health the prevalence of mental health conditions they have absolutely 2.5 people country 2.5 million people in a country this size. >> that is a country of nearly 70 million. no, no. this 70 million. no, no, no. this is this is of a different order. >> we have always had sick people. actually. we are people. actually. what we are better now better at doing now is recognising and giving them recognising them and giving them labels for what they actually have instead just kind of have instead of just kind of tossing off to wayside have instead of just kind of toss telling off to wayside have instead of just kind of toss telling themto wayside have instead of just kind of toss telling them by wayside have instead of just kind of toss telling them by themselves have instead of just kind of tosstelling them by themselves . and telling them by themselves. >> so would to the anarchy >> so i would say to the anarchy that what you've got is a medical now. in fact, medical profession now. in fact, it goes through society which just isn't frightened of being judgemental at all people . so judgemental at all to people. so it never, ever question you it will never, ever question you just turn up, i need pills for

this. i need pills. >> honestly, peter, as someone i've had lots of psychiatric problems my problems over the course of my life and it is incredibly difficult get support . but i difficult to get support. but i ended sectioned when ended up being sectioned when i had psychosis in australia because the nhs did not recognise that i was severely mentally unwell for four months. it so difficult actually to it is so difficult actually to get the care you need when you are very, very poorly. it is not are very, very poorly. it is not a maybe people go to the a simple maybe people go to the doctor, but maybe people do go to say i don't doctor, but maybe people do go to good say i don't doctor, but maybe people do go to good and say i don't doctor, but maybe people do go to good and then ay i don't doctor, but maybe people do go to good and then we don't doctor, but maybe people do go to good and then we definitely feel good and then we definitely know that antidepressants are being overprescribed and there's a that . but a lot of issues with that. but on the other end of the spectrum, people very, spectrum, where people are very, very poorly indeed, do not very poorly indeed, they do not receive that receive any kind of care that they the is, is that >> but the thing is, is that whatever the these numbers are out control and they are not out of control and they are not realistic, they're not realistic, but they're not saying there are not going up because people are not saying that are people who because people are not saying that serious; people who because people are not saying that serious depressione who because people are not saying that serious depression . who because people are not saying that serious depression . there's have serious depression. there's always depression , but also always been depression, but also there's always for example there's always been, for example , unhappiness, for example, as well. and all of those things , unhappiness, for example, as well. a now.l of those things , unhappiness, for example, as well. a now have hose things , unhappiness, for example, as well. a now have .ose things , unhappiness, for example, as well. a now have . well,iings , unhappiness, for example, as well. a now have . well, we're people now have. well, we're going to have to jump in here. >> it's been a fascinating discussion. big, big issues

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