gb news. >> good evening . happy friday. >> good evening. happy friday. it's 8:00 and i am dawn neesom . it's 8:00 and i am dawn neesom. coming the this coming up on the show this evening, yet evening, prince harry faces yet more backlash with his claims over after over having no support after returning that over having no support after retumedia that over having no support after retumedia service that the media ignored service personnel really

personnel got really, really special issue with this one in particular. a grant particular. meanwhile a grant shapps has his fifth job in a yeah shapps has his fifth job in a year. that's not a good thing, shapps has his fifth job in a year. and's not a good thing, shapps has his fifth job in a year. and is not a good thing, shapps has his fifth job in a year. and is now good thing, shapps has his fifth job in a year. and is now secretaryng, is it.7 and is now secretary of defence. safer, defence. i feel so much safer, eddie, his eddie, don't you.7 this is his fifth year eddie, don't you? this is his fifth year . fifth appointment in a year. is he moved to he so good he gets moved to another that another post or just so bad that sunak decide what to sunak can't quite decide what to put bit mean, sunak can't quite decide what to plit bit mean, sunak can't quite decide what to plit ? bit mean, sunak can't quite decide what to plit ? then bit mean, sunak can't quite decide what to plit ? then the bit mean, sunak can't quite decide what to plit ? then the new bit mean, sunak can't quite decide what to plit ? then the new school ean, sunak can't quite decide what to plit ? then the new school term is it? then the new school term is it? then the new school term is to off or is it is about to kick off or is it without as without some of the students as some a aero some of them are? well a aero bar, concrete, i mean concrete that's our that's collapsing on our kids. marvellous are for marvellous there are calls for a full published marvellous there are calls for a full schools published marvellous there are calls for a full schools pub affected. which schools are affected. we don't that. and don't even know that. and as of yet it hasn't been released. what we yet it hasn't been released. wh.sick we yet it hasn't been released. wh.sick them, we yet it hasn't been released. wh.sick them, the we are sick of them, but the strikes as strikes are on the agenda as trains today and trains are cancelled today and junior doctors banned with consultants junior doctors banned with consult scary . i'm debating this that is scary. i'm debating this and my panel. that's and more with my panel. that's all latest all coming up after the latest news hartle news headlines with lisa hartle i >> -- >> i'm lisa hartle in the newsroom . more schools may be newsroom. more schools may be forced to close due to a particular kind of concrete that's collapse that's prone to sudden collapse . abbey primary in . abbey lane primary in sheffield of 150in sheffield is one of over 150in england in england at risk. others in scotland, wales and northern ireland scotland, wales and northern “a and influence officer and . a tiktok influence officer and her mother have jailed for her mother have been jailed for life for murdering men. life for murdering two men. mahican bukhari mahican answering bukhari ambushed killed ambushed the pair and killed them car them during a high speed car chase near leicester in february last hussain who last year. sadiq hussain, who was travelling with mohammad hashim reveal affair threatened to reveal an affair

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been 0.6% larger than it was in 2019. previously 2019. estimates previously suggested 2019. estimates previously suggfigures paint more the figures paint a more optimistic the optimistic picture of the economy , despite prices rising economy, despite prices rising at the fastest rate for 40 years. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaken digital radio and on your smart speaker. by saying play gb news now it's back to dawn . now it's back to dawn. >> thank you, lisa. i'm dawn neesom and you are watching and listening to gb news on a friday night. now before we kick off, no pun included, because i know my football team west ham, are playing i'm here playing at this moment. i'm here talking because love talking to you because i love you before you so much. anyway before we kick meat or kick off with the main meat or replacement meat product, if you prefer before the show, here is replacement meat product, if you p|little)efore the show, here is replacement meat product, if you p|little taste the show, here is replacement meat product, if you p|little taste ofe show, here is replacement meat product, if you p|little taste of what's here is replacement meat product, if you p|little taste of what's coming a little taste of what's coming up. benjamin charlie landman are going to join me to discuss crumble in schools its concrete gate. yes train strikes, doctor strikes and ticket offices. amongst all of that, i want to hear from you at home, though. so tonight i'm asking you, is

harry that harry? yes, that one too toxic for the invictus games. now i'm curious to what you mean. it's an important story for me. i'll tell you why in minute. in touch in a minute. but get in touch with gbviews@gbnews.com . with me at gbviews@gbnews.com. now in his new netflix documentary , the duke of sussex documentary, the duke of sussex has revealed his anger at the media for not covering injured soldiers returning from afghanistan and claims that he had no support from his family when he returned . the when he returned. the documentary is about the invictus games, which are an adaptive sports competition launched by the duke in 2014 for injured service personnel and veterans. now, joining me to discuss this is trevor cole , discuss this is trevor cole, veteran who works with ptsd resolution, a charity that helps to support armed forces veterans with their mental health. thank you so much forjoining me tonight, trevor. firstly, i just want to explain why this story

is important to me. i'm a journalist. as a tabloid journalist, i worked in theatres of war. i know have much of war. i know you have much more experience than but more experience than me, but i actually was covering what happened . and for happened in bosnia. and for prince harry say that the prince harry to say that the papers, the tabloids in particular, don't care about the army personnel, i found particularly upsetting and especially when you take into the fact that 79 journalists were killed covering events in afghanistan since 1992. that's why i'm angry about this. this isn't an i hate harry. i hate meghan thing . put that aside. meghan thing. put that aside. i'm just genuinely angry about what he has said in this documentary. trevor, now you documentary. so trevor, now you actually know what you're talking about. unlike me, mostly. i'm assuming you have mostly. so i'm assuming you have watched some of harry's netflix documentary on the invictus games as well. >> first of all, dawn, thanks for having me on your show. >> first of all, dawn, thanks for having me on your show . yes, for having me on your show. yes, i actually watched on i haven't actually watched on netflix. i unsubscribe to netflix. i unsubscribe to netflix quite some time ago when they brought out that nonsense at home with the hercles type

thing. but i agree with you about media. that is about the media. that is nonsense. i personally have worked with dozens of journalists over the last 5 or 6 years who have tirelessly years who have worked tirelessly to get stories out about afghanistan, about what was happening in afghanistan. if it wasn't for the media help for heroes wouldn't have launched lots of charities, wouldn't have raised hundreds of millions of pounds. the sun's campaigns raised millions of pounds to help build a swimming pool at headley nonsense headley court. so it is nonsense what he's saying, and it. i'm baffled about some of the things that comes out of harry's mouth. i unstable and maybe i think he's unstable and maybe it's have him it's time that we have him sectioned . sectioned. >> all right, trevor . so you >> all right, trevor. so you actually do work very closely. i mean, you. you joined 20 years serving in various theatres across the globe . you were across the globe. you were awarded the military cross in 2016. so you actually do know what you're talking about. and you are a veteran campaigner. you've raised over £250,000 for veterans causes now. so as

veterans causes now. so as someone veterans causes now. so as someone a very veterans causes now. so as someone a very experienced red army veteran , what do you think army veteran, what do you think the effect of harry's comments have on fellow vets like yourself and to be honest with you, the invictus games does it reflect badly on the invictus games ? games? >> the answer is yes to that. dawn first of all, myself and the majority of the veterans community have really stopped listening to what comes out of harry's mouth. um, he he doesn't reflect that of , for instance, reflect that of, for instance, the army's values and standards , integrity, discipline, loyalty . he doesn't reflect any of that . he doesn't reflect any of that . he has to remember that when you join the military, you do sign the oath of allegiance. and one of the things one of the things should do things you should never do is attack her majesty the queen or the the royal family. the members of the royal family. but relentlessly . and but she's done relentlessly. and i think the invictus i honestly think the invictus games are stained. they're quite stained because the athletes there are all the wounded servicemen and women. i mean, have they train all year round

to try and showcase their talents? it's all they've got. and for someone to stand in front of them and talk about . he front of them and talk about. he never had a support structure as a as a multi millionaire with headley court, with the priory. headley court, with the priory. he has connections to every person. let's be honest . his person. let's be honest. his family has connections to every politician, every professor, every professor, every psychologist. i mean, the heads of charities. he's got them all his fingertips , and he stands his fingertips, and he stands there and preaches in front of guys who are double guys and women who are double and triple amputees who struggle to pay their bills. he is not a representative of the veterans community, about time community, and it's about time we stopped highlighting and pretending and pretending that he is and obviously, look, i'm not trying to away from harry what he to take away from harry what he has done, setting up the invictus games. >> thing. >> it is an amazing thing. and i have watched some that have watched some of that documentary and the stories there moving . and there are incredibly moving. and that's what i wanted to watch. i wanted to watch. are these wanted to watch. here are these people have come the most amazing serving us, amazing injuries serving us, keeping keeping us safe, basically. and suffered the most

horrendous injury and have overcome this and are so brave in what they're doing with with with sort of like, you know, with sort of like, you know, with with their training and getting a new lease of life in them. so amazingly brave. and then for harry to come along and this an anti personal this this isn't an anti personal rant i just think it's so unfair on veterans very lucky on veterans who i was very lucky and honoured to work with in bosnia and some of what those young lads younger than me at the time saw out there was horrific. you must have seen some very horrific as some very horrific things as well. and obviously, as i said, you work with ptsd victims as well. now, harry has spoken about not receiving help from this, which people have disproved, obviously . and i disproved, obviously. and i think as lord general dannatt said, recollections may vary. but do you think there is a hint, trevor, that harry might still be suffering from some form of ptsd in that his recollections are varying and some of the things he says are offensive to the likes of yourself ? well don, it's quite yourself? well don, it's quite clear that he's suffering from

something. >> if anything, he's a horse. he's in a relationship, and it's coming across as it's coming across that way. now, a lot of the veterans that i speak to on a daily basis , um, have just a daily basis, um, have just brushed him aside as if he doesn't matter anymore when there wasn't when, which is very sad because there was a time when harry could been like when harry could have been like the the veterans the tsar of the veterans community. he could have achieved let's not achieved a lot. and let's not pretend that, oh, harry invented invictus games. he actually stole the idea from the warrior games in the us and brought it to . let's let's to the uk. and let's not let's not think for one minute that harry put this together . not think for one minute that harry put this together. he's not enough put not intelligent enough to put this was a team not intelligent enough to put thiexperts, was a team not intelligent enough to put thiexperts, and was a team not intelligent enough to put thiexperts, and womeneam of experts, men and women that did for he hasn't did this for him, so he hasn't really value apart from really had much value apart from the . and the one thing the hrh title. and the one thing that will point is i find that i will point out is i find it embarrassing that an individual keeps keeps monetising veterans. because he left, he ran away from the uk a few ago and he hasn't few years ago and he hasn't actually gave any money or helped a military charity out in the uk. but when it comes to a chance that he might lose his netflix contract, jumps netflix contract, he jumps on the bandwagon and

the veterans bandwagon and monetises his show for his own financial so um, i don't financial gain. so um, i don't hold them in high regard and i'm really sorry, but i don't. >> which is such a shame because, know, mean , there because, you know, i mean, there are so many people achieving amazing due to the amazing things due to the invictus games, as you've already said. trevor the other obviously the other as a veteran. the other question i want is grant want to ask you tonight is grant shapps , who's the new defence shapps, who's the new defence secretary. what do you make of that ? that? >> uh , a massive surprise , if >> uh, a massive surprise, if i'm honest. um, we are in a time, dawn, where we it's, i think we all know we are in the middle of a proxy with middle of a proxy war with russia . um, middle of a proxy war with russia. um, our our , our our russia. um, our our, our our military might is at an all time low. um we should be showing leadership, strong leadership, and determination in the face of our enemies . and we're showing our enemies. and we're showing at the minute that we've got a guy in charge of our military who hasn't even been in boys who hasn't even been in the boys bngade who hasn't even been in the boys brigade , in the scouts, never brigade, in the scouts, never mind it's, um. mind the military. so it's, um. it's a little bit shocking. and the reason why i find it

shocking this we currently shocking is this we currently have several members of parliament that are great candidates to be a defence minister, we have several that have served in military that could be that could have done a fantastic job. but at the minute it seems to me that rishi sunak is sort of why is he playing down a very, very important role at the minute, you know, and we should have our best in there. not someone that's a novice just like trevor . like trevor. >> it's such an important time as have as well. i mean, we have literally on literally got a war in europe on our doorsteps and wallace our doorsteps and ben wallace i mean, what was your opinion of ben wallace, think ben wallace, do you think ben was good job? was doing a good job? >> was bam was doing >> ben was bam was doing a decent job. don't get me wrong. with with most jobs, i've spoke to johnny mercer about this. but in most jobs, johnny mercer, sorry, johnny mercer would have been a fantastic candidate for that i'll say that. but we that role. i'll say that. but we have a lot of pan pushers in whitehall and civil servants which controlling , which are which are controlling, which are controlling a high controlling a lot of high positions in government. and controlling a lot of high pos not|s in government. and controlling a lot of high pos not looking government. and controlling a lot of high pos not looking goodrnment. and controlling a lot of high pos not looking good when t. and it's not looking good when people are from people are coming from university , getting and university, getting rules and

then important then controlling important rules. honestly believe that rules. i honestly believe that the ministry of defence should go back to the war office where we have retired generals, brigadiers, colonels making those decisions and we stop these civilians getting these roles, which they clearly are unfit to do. oh, you mentioned johnny mercer as everyone else. >> you know, currently in the cabinet, would have liked to cabinet, you would have liked to have the role have seen the take the role rather than shapps . rather than grant shapps. >> uh, mark francois be a good one. we had the old we did have penny mordaunt in dirt ones and i will be honest, she did a decent job. but again , she got decent job. but again, she got moved on. she made today in parliament, in government we have great candidates for great roles, but then again someone will say, well, penny wants brushed past me in the corridor. and felt offended. so are and i felt offended. so we are now out people that are now moving out people that are fantastic because fantastic for the roles because of allegations , johnny would of allegations, johnny would have done a great job. mark francois , penny we've francois, penny mordaunt we've clive , we've got clive lewis, we've, we've got several mps in there which i think could have up to the job. >> yeah, absolutely . and you've

>> yeah, absolutely. and you've moved to the other moved us nicely. on to the other subject. i want to talk you moved us nicely. on to the other subjectrevor,1t to talk you moved us nicely. on to the other subjectrevor,whichilk you moved us nicely. on to the other subjectrevor, which is you moved us nicely. on to the other subjectrevor, which is obviously about trevor, which is obviously the . you know, the ukraine situation. you know, the ukraine situation. you know, the is ongoing on ukraine. the war is ongoing on ukraine. how worried do you think we should be in the west ? i know should be in the west? i know this sounds terribly selfish, but people are concerned about what happens in this country. how how much of a threat do you think what is happening in ukraine and certainly the involvement of russia and potentially china to is to people country ? we dawn, people in this country? we dawn, do you know what? >> i don't think you wanted me to bring this up, but all these things, in opinion , uh, we things, in my opinion, uh, we need to look at the biden administration when you look at china, because, i mean , this all china, because, i mean, this all falls in a circle and it's to do with, for instance, the biden administration has stopped exporting goods to china and in doing so, china has put a lot of pressure on taiwan, taiwan vast produces microchips which are used in every type of, uh , every used in every type of, uh, every type of computer system and things we use today. electronics

and the weird thing is in china , um , china are under extreme , um, china are under extreme pressure because they've got an ageing population and which is forcing mass unemployment . forcing mass unemployment. there's not enough people to fill the jobs . china's about to fill the jobs. china's about to implode . their gdp at the minute implode. their gdp at the minute is over 350, which no one's talking about 350. no economy in history has ever been able to sustain that without collapsing. so . the china is a worry , in my so. the china is a worry, in my opinion, and maybe that's why china is putting pressure on taiwan , because they're getting taiwan, because they're getting nothing from america . they need nothing from america. they need the microchips produced vast produced in taiwan . so there's produced in taiwan. so there's conflict potential out and out there as well , don. so, you there as well, don. so, you know, if you look at the bigger picture, um, and got to be honest, uh, america or our cousins, you know, we fight with them. we do lots of things. we trade with them . well, we used trade with them. well, we used to more with to trade a lot more with them until so the until biden took over. so the problem in the west at the minute, all stems not to the

american people , but in my american people, but in my opinion, stems to opinion, it all stems to the biden administration that's causing not only in causing issues not only in ukraine, china , in korea and ukraine, in china, in korea and taiwan. so i think until there's a new president, we're not going to see much improve in the west i >> trevor, you're not really helping me on a friday night. but i just want to say thank you so much forjoining us. but before go , trevor, how do before you go, trevor, how do people if there's anyone watching this or listening to you radio who you on the radio tonight who wants get in touch and feels wants to get in touch and feels like a veteran and they like they are a veteran and they are advice would are suffering, what advice would you give them? where can they go are suffering, what advice would yo get ve them? where can they go are suffering, what advice would yo get helpam? where can they go are suffering, what advice would yo get helpam? whe supporthey go are suffering, what advice would yo get help am? whe support theyio to get help and the support they need ? need? >> don , if anyone out there is >> don, if anyone out there is suffering and they've served in the armed forces, i would suggest get on phone suggest they get on the phone and resolution, ptsd and phone ptsd resolution, ptsd resolution are fantastic . they resolution are fantastic. they brought me back from being homeless . they brought back brought me back from being homebeing they brought back brought me back from being homebeing broken'ought back brought me back from being homebeing broken .ught back brought me back from being homebeing broken . they back brought me back from being homebeing broken . they brought from being broken. they brought me from potential suicide . me back from potential suicide. and now able out and now i'm able to reach out and bit. wish and do a little bit. wish i could do more, but don't. but could do more, but i don't. but that's touch with. that's who to get in touch with. ptsd resolution or cfa. they do great . brilliant. great work. brilliant. >> and we can find online.

>> and we can find them online. can online can we? if we do a search online for yes for them? yes >> yes we can. >> trevor it's been an >> perfect. trevor it's been an absolute pleasure talking to you tonight thank so for tonight. thank you so much for joining appreciate joining us. i really appreciate your all that's your insight on all that. that's trevor cole. basically military cross winner there discussing everything that you need to know about the invictus games and well, basically everything else , right? you're watching and listening to gb news. still to come, the scandal of schools falling apart and still no end in sight for the strikes . don't in sight for the strikes. don't miss it . miss it. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. showers clearing overnight, some low cloud remaining, even some fog by dawn . but the trend is for it to turn increasingly sunny and increasingly warm over the next few days as high pressure replaces low pressure , low replaces low pressure, low pressure already filling and disappearing overnight.

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radio. >> welcome back. happy friday. you are watching and listening to gb news with me. dawn neesom . now, joining me now is charlie lambdin and housing markets tech founder, podcaster and commentator and possibly a concrete expert, we hope. and benjamin lockman , research benjamin lockman, research fellow at the bow group. welcome both of you, on a friday night. thank you much for joining thank you so much for joining me. now me. i really appreciate it. now before we kick with before we kick off with the criminal state of some schools in charlie and i were wondering what your thoughts were on the

house prices. now i had this is prompted by me having a conversation with my husband today. right. and he is going, i really want to sell the flat. and cant and i'm going, i can't we can't sell because evidently sell the flat because evidently house prices are through the floor selling floor and it's not worth selling anything at the moment. so i thought an expert in and thought i'd get an expert in and charlie driven charlie has driven all driven all way devon? yes in all the way from devon? yes in an electric car as well . i an electric car as well. i understand. so you're doing a bit environment so just bit for the environment. so just briefly , what the car briefly, what the car environment. it's very good . i environment. it's very good. i know everyone loves the environment and we have to love the so talk to me a the environment. so talk to me a little what's little bit about what's happening to the housing market little bit about what's hap|housing) the housing market little bit about what's hap|housing prices.)using market little bit about what's hap|housing prices.)using wellet and housing prices. right. well there's no surprise that everyone confused because in everyone is confused because in the week zoopla comes out the same week zoopla comes out and year on year, house and says year on year, house pnces and says year on year, house prices are up 0.1. >> and today, nationwide comes out and says, no, they're not. they're down 5.3. >> was my issue. >> this was my issue. >> this was my issue. >> yes, it's very confusing. house prices are first and foremost. if you only know one thing about house prices is that by the time anything hits the news, it's at least several months old. land registry prices

are 6 to 9 months since the sale was agreed . so when they write was agreed. so when they write so when they reported june's figures in august, people just go august liam broady he says this and thinks that's what it is now. but it wasn't. that was for december. january, right, since when? the world has changed. yeah i have unique access to data in the property market. i've been i've had a agents as my clients for 20 years providing. so i have truly a unique insight to what's happening. and a year ago i said house prices are going to collapse and everyone laughed at me. and people, industry me. and people, the industry said to me, yeah, said , no, no, said to me, yeah, said, no, no, because i don't want people to buy to negative buy houses and get to negative eqtu. buy houses and get to negative equity . by buy houses and get to negative equity. by means but equity. by all means buy, but just . be aware just don't overpay. be aware pnces just don't overpay. be aware prices down and today prices are coming down and today it really be sinking in it really seems to be sinking in now that they are actually on it really seems to be sinking in nov1way. they are actually on it really seems to be sinking in nov1way. theythis actually on it really seems to be sinking in nov1way. theythis is:tually on it really seems to be sinking in nov1way. theythis is soally on it really seems to be sinking in nov1way. theythis is so house the way. and this is so house pnces the way. and this is so house prices crash prices don't ever actually crash like stocks do. they slide over a 2 or 3 years. we're one year into this slide. the second year will be steeper. the next 12 months be steepest

months will be the steepest falls, right? and then it'll it'll be so a one year into three years. so at the end of 2025, they're going to bottom out. that is my view . so now out. that is my view. so now having said that, that's not all properties everywhere. there's a big regional divide . house big regional divide. house pnces big regional divide. house prices in the south have come down further and faster than those because price the those because the price is the most assuming. those because the price is the mo is assuming. those because the price is the mo is the assuming. those because the price is the mo is the reasonuming. those because the price is the mo is the reason why?]. >> is that the reason why? >> is that the reason why? >> not necessarily. mean, >> not necessarily. i mean, there's been a bit of an exodus from the north, from the south to the north, people in south people selling up in the south and money and using their to money buy cheaper north cheaper stuff in the north because levelling hasn't because levelling up hasn't worked true . >> no, this is true. >> no, this is true. >> um, and also but in the same bar, i mean, if you look at london boroughs, half of them have , half of them have been going up, half of them have been going up, half of them have the year. have come down in the last year. yeah. single yeah. and within a single borough houses can be going up while going down or while flats can be going down or vice you cannot apply vice versa. so you cannot apply national your national averages to your particular situation. so for people, generally speaking, people, generally speaking, people who are worried about the market need to market falling, if you need to sell, make sure you choose your market falling, if you need to sell, rlike sure you choose your market falling, if you need to sell, rlike your you choose your market falling, if you need to sell, rlike your life choose your market falling, if you need to sell, rlike your life dependslour market falling, if you need to sell, rlike your life depends onr agent like your life depends on it overprice it. it and don't overprice it. >> okay, but is it worth waiting a couple of years might a couple of years and it might get thank you

get better again? no, thank you for that, charlie. you can come again right ? for that, charlie. you can come again right? that's. yeah. you're not really helping there. so should talk about so should we talk about concrete? it's concrete? okay it's been revealed 156 schools england revealed 156 schools in england have forced have reinforced forced autoclaved aerated concrete in their structure. it looks a bit like aero, but not brown, which was between the 1950s and was used between the 1950s and 1990s. now, the 156 are just the tip of this iceberg. evidently we don't know how many impacts yet because the government hasn't us the concrete hasn't told us the concrete itself risk of collapsing itself is at risk of collapsing . and since 2018, the department for education has been looking into schools may have it. into schools that may have it. so why now? just before the kids go back to school , are we go back to school, are we telling them they can't back telling them they can't go back to well, in to school? well, a beam in a school over the school collapsed over the summer. now i have listened to various people from the government try to explain this situation. schools minister in particular, nick gibb been on every tv and radio station and i still have no idea what the reason is. it is like a word soup, basically of what was going on. now benjamin, you

actually know what you're talking about with this sort of thing. yeah. yes, you do. you're looking at me. so you did you understand what nick was understand what nick gibb was talking we've been talking about and why we've been aware using aware of this. we've been using this since 50s. this concrete since the 50s. we've it since the we've been aware of it since the mid being problem because mid 90s being a problem because it's got a 30 year life span. why are two days before the kids go to school? are we go back to school? are we suddenly , oh, there's a suddenly saying, oh, there's a problem, can't back school? >> well, w“ >> yeah, well, it's terrible timing. i think the biggest problem timing. i think the biggest proigoing to impact kids it's going to impact kids education, and that's the main issue everything education, and that's the main issue but everything education, and that's the main issue but also everything education, and that's the main issue but also dozrything education, and that's the main issue but also do have,ig else. but we also do have, i think in the past sort of 60, 70 years in this country, a terrible around building terrible ethic around building anything. things which anything. we build things which have lifespan of 30 have a lifespan of about 30 years, as in previous generations we things generations we built things to last for long after we were dead and long after our children and grandchildren like and long after our children and grarvictorians like and long after our children and grarvictorians , like and long after our children and grarvictorians , for like and long after our children and grarvictorians , for example, like the victorians, for example, built some of the greatest house buildings, greatest buildings, some of the greatest schools, , schools, public buildings, libraries, etcetera. they're still and they'll be still standing and they'll be standing after these standing after all of these schools collapsing schools end up collapsing or being down, replaced. being knocked down, replaced. and even like the pfi schools built under blair are like outdated now. and we're like 15, 20 years on from then. so i

think we really need to get back to long term thinking. there's the old saying that, you know, the old saying that, you know, the of conservatism is the idea of conservatism is planting a that you'll the idea of conservatism is planti sita that you'll the idea of conservatism is planti sit underthat you'll the idea of conservatism is planti sit under the you'll the idea of conservatism is planti sit under the shade of. never sit under the shade of. and idea of building and i think the idea of building for future generations, not just building 20 years, for future generations, not just bl something 20 years, for future generations, not just bl something we 20 years, for future generations, not just bl something we need!0 years, for future generations, not just bl something we need to years, for future generations, not just bl something we need to get s, for future generations, not just blsomething we need to get back is something we need to get back to. grips. >> 5 now? to. grips. >> why now? to. grips. >> why ? now? to. grips. >> why ? i now? to. grips. >> why ? i mean, we've known to. grips. >> withisi mean, we've known to. grips. >> withis problem ne've known about this problem for, you know , 90s, basically . , since the mid 90s, basically. so it's not it's not even like you can blame tory you can blame the tory government because obviously under government government because obviously under aware overnment government because obviously under aware this nment government because obviously under aware this concrete people were aware this concrete was going start falling apart was going to start falling apart at point. yeah, why at one point. yeah, well why just two days to go back school? >> it's excessive >> well, it's excessive governments over years, i presume just got point presume it's just got to a point where the where it's very easy to kick the can the but it's can down the road. but now it's got to a point where actually it's dangerous . and it's like very dangerous. and yeah, this should have been dean yeah, this should have been dealt a long time but dealt with a long time ago, but no wanted grasp. dealt with a long time ago, but no wdo ed grasp. dealt with a long time ago, but no w do you grasp. dealt with a long time ago, but no w do you grasjof this? >> what do you make of this? >> what do you make of this? >> i nick talking on >> i heard nick gibb talking on the today. the radio today. >> understand? the radio today. >> was1derstand? the radio today. >> was listening? the radio today. >> was listening very >> and i was listening very carefully the carefully like, what's the reason why? why? on evidence. what evidence ? you didn't say what evidence? you didn't say what the evidence was . and what the evidence was. and actually, there's plenty of evidence that that's been around. this problem's been around for a long time. yeah. and , who knows why it's and to me, who knows why it's been done . it's either some kind

been done. it's either some kind of diversionary of deliberate diversionary story. here's a big crisis to make look over here because story. here's a big crisis to ma don't look over here because story. here's a big crisis to ma don't look what'sere because story. here's a big crisis to ma don't look what's coming use story. here's a big crisis to ma don't look what's coming over we don't know what's coming over there gone , oh, there or someone has gone, oh, no, this is a real problem and we've got no choice. >> i just i just do find it astonishing . astonishing. >> but, i mean, you know, i don't anyone listening or don't want anyone listening or watching , by watching tonight to panic, by the way. it's not affecting every school and many kids will be able to go back to school. and contingency plans be able to go back to school. and schools contingency plans be able to go back to school. and schools con'putting' plans many schools are putting into place make it safe. don't place to make it safe. so don't worry. , schools aren't worry. i mean, schools aren't going kids going to collapse on your kids heads , but it would nice heads, but it would be nice to even know. we don't even know the yeah how many you the full list. yeah how many you know? the thing. the full list. yeah how many you know? know the thing. the full list. yeah how many you know? know certain 1e thing. the full list. yeah how many you know? know certain ones,1g. the full list. yeah how many you know? know certain ones, but >> we know certain ones, but there's we there's others we don't necessarily know it's there. there's others we don't nec�*a sarily know it's there. there's others we don't nec�*a sari like row it's there. there's others we don't nec�*a sari like asbestos. there. there's others we don't nec�*a sari like asbestos. you e. there's others we don't nec�*a howike asbestos. you e. there's others we don't nec�*a how many)estos. you e. there's others we don't nec�*a how many)estos. you we know how many buildings? we don't know. don't even know. it's necessarily in in the building. don't even know. it's necesseisy in in the building. don't even know. it's necesseis it's in the building. don't even know. it's necesseis it's sort�*ne building. don't even know. it's necesseis it's sort of building. so this is it's sort of a ticking bomb. and it's like ticking time bomb. and it's like the worst possible place. i can't think of any worse places the worst possible place. i can't hospitalsany worse places the worst possible place. i can't hospitals and norse places the worst possible place. i can't hospitals and schools aces the worst possible place. i can't hospitals and schools toes the worst possible place. i can't hospitals and schools to be than hospitals and schools to be in danger of crumbling like around people . around people. >> it's a lot government >> it's a lot of government buildings this place is in, isn't there? i mean, they do it on that's i think isn't there? i mean, they do it on that's ithink lot >> that's why i think a lot of the do things on the

the time they do things on the cheap. short solutions. >> was the reason it >> yeah, it was the reason it was used in building materials in in the 50s in they started in the 50s was because light and it because it was very light and it was cheap and you know, as, as, as benjamin has pointed out, charlie , they don't build things charlie, they don't build things to last anymore, do they? housing stock. i mean, you're the expert in housing. i mean, the expert in housing. i mean, the place i live in is like 250 years old. nothing's fallen off it yet. touch wood . so this this it yet. touch wood. so this this concrete is like it was a cheap building material that. >> yeah . and it's been used. >> yeah. and it's been used. it's even been used in some domestic. so it's been used by, by public sector and private sector and yeah it's cheap and everyone was told it was safe and going to last a long time and, and guess what. yeah. and i think the root cause of this problem is the fact that political terms are so short and therefore i completely agree. i think i think that there's this is an argument perhaps that in the same way that the bank of england has been given independence politics, independence from politics, perhaps education should, as

well, because i hate the fact that education is politicised and becomes a budget thing. it just shouldn't be because you know what's more important to invest in than not only our kids education, but their safety and their and their health as well. yeah and we we've just we haven't we've, we've just eroded that. >> i think that's a very good point you know, isn't >> i think that's a very good point a you know, isn't >> i think that's a very good pointa political know, isn't >> i think that's a very good pointa political point, isn't >> i think that's a very good pointa political point from isn't >> i think that's a very good pointa political point from met even a political point from me because to be straight because i try to be straight down the middle. but i mean, the way party jumping down the middle. but i mean, the wajover party jumping down the middle. but i mean, the wajover it party jumping down the middle. but i mean, the wajover it and party jumping down the middle. but i mean, the wajover it and going, jumping down the middle. but i mean, the wajover it and going, yeah,mping all over it and going, yeah, tories, torres, tories . and it's tories, torres, tories. and it's like, well, on. had an like, well, hold on. you had an opportunity as well, like, well, hold on. you had an oppithey're as well, like, well, hold on. you had an oppithey're guiltyas well, like, well, hold on. you had an oppithey're guiltyas ill ll, but they're both guilty of it because it's successive governments generations governments over generations when labour are in power. governments over generations wh they were doing the same thin same tories have done >> they were doing the same thin same thing.)ries have done >> they were doing the same thin same thing.)rithink, 'e done >> they were doing the same thin same thing.)rithink, look, e >> they were doing the same thinscharlesng.)rithink, look, e >> they were doing the same thinscharlesng.)rithink, ihistory king charles has a great history of things poundbury of things like poundbury building, going back to traditional have traditional methods. if we have a commission public a royal commission into public buildings and need buildings and say we need to buildings and say we need to build last, not just build things to last, not just so that a five government so that a five year government puts and feel puts stuff up and people feel like being built and like things are being built and changing. if we actually have something led from the top, maybe we can solve this problem. >> think that both >> so do you think that both sides in way as you said, sides in a way are as you said, are ? charlie, it's a bit like are? charlie, it's a bit like you know, this might be a

distraction from something else thatis distraction from something else that is coming down the line, but both but do you think both of you, that both main political that both our main political parties basically playing parties are basically playing politics with our kids education? >> absolutely . and the one thing >> absolutely. and the one thing probably most people can agree on is we'd like our kids to be well educated. yeah and that's why a why i don't think it should be a party thing. no and party political thing. no and never i've never heard it talked about. but, you know, wish about. but, you know, i wish it wasn't the one thing all wasn't because the one thing all parents their parents agree on, whatever their politics are, we'd our politics are, is we'd like our kids well—educated and be kids to get well—educated and be happy and i think it's i >> yeah. and i think it's i mean, it's appalling mean, i think it's appalling that the fact that, you know, we put through put our kids through what we put them pandemic them through during the pandemic , locking them in way, , locking them down in that way, especially vulnerable who especially vulnerable kids who didn't know, wealthy didn't have, you know, wealthy families with families in nice houses with free wifi, etcetera. some of that thousands of them are still missing system . missing from the school system. >> outrageous. i >> yeah, it's outrageous. and i think, the think, you know, kids bear the brunt time with brunt a lot of the time with lockdowns. younger lockdowns. certainly the younger generations more generations suffered a lot more , you because lost , you know, because they lost their education and they lost key opportunities. kids going out of university into the workplace get the workplace didn't get the experience that experience and the nurture that they needed the stage they needed at the early stage of . and this just

of the career. and this just feels like continuation feels like a continuation of that where the are that theme where the young are being and you being made to suffer and you know, they're just left behind again , a political football as again, a political football as they were during lockdown . they were during lockdown. >> and you know, the >> and you know, even the exam marking , um, even the marking system, um, even the exam system where sort exam marking system where sort of like, you know, we were the only world of like, you know, we were the only had world of like, you know, we were the only had teachers world of like, you know, we were the only had teachers marking vorld of like, you know, we were the only had teachers marking exams that had teachers marking exams rather exam board. and now rather than exam board. and now we've got that discrepancy where some kids got higher we've got that discrepancy where some kisome got higher we've got that discrepancy where some kisome gotgot|her grades grades, some have got low grades , even levelling , and there's no even levelling between england, wales and scotland at the moment. it's absolutely terrifying. i mean, it's really you just wish that kids would be put where they should be. and first. should be. and that's first. yeah >> en- ell-- en- >> and the one thing i haven't heard mentioned today, which i think that think is equally bad, is that the of parents who this think is equally bad, is that the are of parents who this think is equally bad, is that the are going)arents who this think is equally bad, is that the are going to ents who this think is equally bad, is that the are going to are who this think is equally bad, is that the are going to are saying,is week are going to are saying, what going to do? i've got what am i going to do? i've got to well, exactly to go to work. well, exactly that people that know. and there are people i there people i mean, there are people who are to of to going lose income because of this. today this. now, the government today said be said that they're going to be paying said that they're going to be paying extra travel costs or paying for extra travel costs or even costs. i even accommodation costs. i don't think apparently they said that today. but don't that today. but but i don't think that they are going to be compensating parents who may lose income because now their kids won't to school.

kids won't go to school. exactly. it's really bad. >> . especially at this end. exactly. it's really bad. >> know, especially at this end. exactly. it's really bad. >> know, espemore' at this end. exactly. it's really bad. >> know, espemore workingend. exactly. it's really bad. >> know, espemore working class you know, the more working class parents don't go to parents who if they don't go to work, they get and work, they don't get paid and such short notice. in any case, i depressing i hope we're not depressing you too much. right? you are watching listening to gb watching and listening to gb news. more strikes news. coming up, more strikes afoot. junior doctors and consultants band together for their next round of strikes in october

radio. >> welcome back. i'm dawn neesom on gb news. now, i asked you earlier if the duke of sussex is too toxic for the invictus games . you've heard my opinion. you .you've heard my opinion. you heard the marvellous veteran on talking about how he felt earlier on and you have been getting in touch because this program is all about what you think. so it's important. think. okay, so it's important. mike says no, harry was spot on, right? okay another gb views on twitter says yes . he is so twitter says yes. he is so selfish that it's always about

him and not about our brave veterans . meanwhile, margaret. veterans. meanwhile, margaret. good evening, margaret . you good evening, margaret. you think? yeah. he may not be doing things in the right way and in doing so, he is being attacked. he rich, money he may be rich, but money does not happiness. he does not buy you happiness. he does have mental health issues and we should be offering support to him . margaret, i do agree with him. margaret, i do agree with you to a certain extent, but i mean, the fact that he's denied getting any help and being offered any help when he also spoke years about how spoke a few years ago about how supportive his brother was , supportive his brother was, advising him to get mental help . it's any case, but interesting to hear your thoughts. so please do keep them in right to hear your thoughts. so please do kestilliem in right to hear your thoughts. so please do kestill inn in right to hear your thoughts. so please do kestill in the in right to hear your thoughts. so please do kestill in the studion right to hear your thoughts. so please do kestill in the studio is ight now. still in the studio is charlie emdin, housing market tech founder , podcaster and tech founder, podcaster and commentator. and benjamin locklin research fellow at the bow group. and we are now talking, i'm afraid sorry, we have to. british medical association has announced junior doctors and consultants in england. so wales, scotland and northern ireland don't need to panic yet. we'll take joint strike action for the first time over four days across september

and october, the october one to coincide with the tory conference. not about politics, though . no, definitely not. though. no, definitely not. that's in addition to the train drivers union aslef strikes this weekend . right. so now what do weekend. right. so now what do weekend. right. so now what do we who wants to go first on strikes? i feel like i've been talking about strikes for a year probably because we have . probably because we have. benjamin, what do you make of these what's what's worrying me now is the fact that the junior doctors are timing their strike with the consultants . so with the consultants. so basically, they say that you are going to get a christmas level service for those four days in october . so what do you make of this? >> i'm very sympathetic to people who want pay rises because realistically speaking, over the past few years, the rate inflation and the cost rate of inflation and the cost of living, they've a real of living, they've taken a real terms pay cut. so it's completely justified for them to say, hang a minute, need say, hang on a minute, we need a pay say, hang on a minute, we need a pay that said, pay rise. that being said, i think it's immoral when you're in to go on strike, in healthcare to go on strike, because people are dying as a because if people are dying as a result of the strike action, even if person neglected

even if one person is neglected , they miss a cancer screening or die or whatever else. or they die or whatever else. i think, know, frankly , this think, you know, frankly, this is it's something is a vocation. it's something that you because that you do because you are there people . the money there to help people. the money is a secondary factor. obviously, live, obviously, people need to live, but strike is the but i don't think strike is the way do i think there way to do it. i think there should solution should be a better solution to this. charlie, we have so this. okay charlie, we have so far before these strikes, even 940,000 appointments and treatments have had to be postponed because of the previous strike action hospital waiting list are now topping 7.5 million with 1 in 7 of us on hospital waiting list . hospital waiting list. >> and if that is you, thoughts with you. i've got people in my family suffering like family who are suffering like this thought of this as well. and the thought of another delaying another strike delaying things even further is just horrible . even further is just horrible. well, what do you make of this joint action then? >> to me , it smacks of >> to me, it smacks of desperation. i mean, i partly agree with ben, but i also he says there must be a better solution. i don't i don't think there is one. otherwise they would probably do this would probably do it. this is the . through the the last resort. through the course work, i actually

course of my work, i actually i provide 1 to 1 advice on moving house to people. and recently i had a young had a session with a young doctor and he strung like doctor and he was strung like piano wire. he was so stressed and so exhausted. and you know, if these are the people we're entrusting with our health care, you know , they have had you know, they have had a substantial real terms pay cut. they work hours that would be considered illegal in a business pretty much in the kind of hours they work . and the trouble is, they work. and the trouble is, just treating it as a vocation and not complaining about it, which they've been doing for a long time. nurses too, long time. and nurses have too, is they don't get, you is that they don't get, you know, they get the government gets away not paying them gets away with not paying them what so you've what they do worth. so you've got new doctors coming into the what they do worth. so you've got rnowioctors coming into the what they do worth. so you've got rnow .»ctors coming into the what they do worth. so you've got rnow . so rs coming into the what they do worth. so you've got rnow . so who ming into the what they do worth. so you've got rnow . so who areg into the what they do worth. so you've got rnow . so who are suffering nhs now. so who are suffering the effects of austerity , which the effects of austerity, which that's a whole other topic . i that's a whole other topic. i know, but. but you can't do a good job under those circumstances. you know, if you if you have emergency needs and you go to hospital , you don't you go to hospital, you don't want the doctor that's checking you skint and be you up to be a skint and be sleep deprived and worn out, you want them to be able like they always used to be. doctors were

well paid. who were, you well paid. people who were, you know, but they seem to just be becoming absolutely wrung out like that. so striking decided to strike together like that to me. is them stepping it up a notch ? they do put in place for notch? they do put in place for critical emergencies. they say they will always make sure that those are those are met. i don't know if what the results are. and it be very , very hard and it would be very, very hard to way . but the to prove either way. but the fact of this, there are british doctors going and being doctors abroad. this is true because it's better and then we have a shortage of doctors . it's shortage of doctors. it's actually it's a false economy in any case, not paying them. >> but so the bma not the >> but so the bma not for the consultant , >> but so the bma not for the consultant, but for the junior doctors are demanding 35. i mean, do you that's a fair mean, do you think that's a fair pay mean, do you think that's a fair pay demand? mean, do you think that's a fair paythat'snd? mean, do you think that's a fair paythat's the well, that's what >> that's the well, that's what they've lost in real terms . so they've lost in real terms. so all for we all they're asking for is can we just what we used to get? just have what we used to get? that's for . that's all we're asking for. we're not asking more we're not asking for any more than everybody than that. you know, everybody effectively is having a real terms at the moment, but terms pay cut at the moment, but they've more for they've been having it more for longer lot people do. longer than a lot of people do. >> that's true ,

>> you think that's true, benjamin they have been having a pay benjamin they have been having a pay cut for longer than a lot of people are listening and watching people are listening and watabsolutely. but also >> absolutely. but it's also there's within the there's so much waste within the nhs. way this is to nhs. the way to solve this is to go through gut middle go through gut the middle management who are a waste of money, the diversity money, get rid of the diversity managers, the amount managers, stop the huge amount of waste on things defunct of waste on things like defunct ppe and all that sort of nonsense and if the conservative government try to touch the nhs and try to reform it, all of these same people will come out and touch nhs. and say no, don't touch the nhs. you've alone . you've got to leave it alone. so it's the it's a sacred cow to them. the things that need to in things that need to be done in order ensure they paid order to ensure they get paid fairly and have better conditions and better working conditions and better working conditions quality conditions and a higher quality of care people of health care for people who use they aren't use the service they aren't allowed to because people use the service they aren't allorgoi to because people use the service they aren't allorgo out because people use the service they aren't allorgo out and ecause people use the service they aren't allorgo out and complain,)ple use the service they aren't allorgo out and complain, oh no, use the service they aren't allotoriest and complain, oh no, use the service they aren't allotories are|d complain, oh no, use the service they aren't allotories are trying plain, oh no, use the service they aren't allotories are trying plédestroyio, the tories are trying to destroy the tories are trying to destroy the you're to privatise the you're trying to privatise the you're trying to privatise the back door , even the nhs by the back door, even if it's a completely innocuous attempt to make more attempt to make it more efficient. as an efficient. it is seen as an attack on the nhs. efficient. it is seen as an attiso on the nhs. efficient. it is seen as an attiso in the nhs. efficient. it is seen as an attiso i mean nhs. efficient. it is seen as an attiso i mean charlie , do you >> so i mean charlie, do you think problem? fact think that's a problem? the fact that as soon as you start going down does need down this road that it does need reorganisation? the system is broken and everyone screams privatisation and privatisation

. do you think that is an issue? i mean the nhs is the fifth largest employer in the entire world, which is incredible, isn't it? >> yeah. and when you've got an institution that size , institution of that size, that's, that's also that old change is incredibly difficult because the cogs have to keep turning day and night, 24 hours a day . i don't see i completely a day. i don't see i completely agree with that . it's bloated in agree with that. it's bloated in terms of its overhead beds . they terms of its overhead beds. they still manage fax machines, non—medical managers, that kind of stuff. yeah. and the management responsible for that? noti'm saying. saying. >> i'm not saying. i'm saying. but, know, that's where the but, you know, that's where the level organisation is going wrong. >> yeah, it is. wrong. >> yeah, it is . and you know >> yeah, it is. and you know there is the sacred cow is the, there is the sacred cow is the, the blue. it's very, very difficult because there are people though, who want to protect their jobs. i people though, who want to protect theirjobs. i get people though, who want to protect their jobs. i get that. and the people they're going and so the people they're going to fight against it. there's to fight against it. and there's never of never been an institution of that successfully that size that was successfully reformed that i know of . it's reformed that i know of. it's going to come to some sort of collapse or some sort of

takeover before there's wholesale change. and unfortunately, i don't see other things happening. privatising ocean doesn't have a brilliant track record here, sadly. you know , look at the water know, look at the water companies now . it's what ends up companies now. it's what ends up happening is yeah, they just they just suck it all dry asset stripping people will go in if you privatise they'll just sell everything and there's something very dangerous about when , when very dangerous about when, when you've got an organisation that's saving lives , making that's saving lives, making money from it. >> absolutely. but i think it's all it's things all in procurement. it's things like know, overpaying like, you know, overpaying for things you can get a things which you can get a lot cheaper there's no cheaper and then there's no incentive to cheaper incentive to do it cheaper because there's no profit. >> has been set up >> so the system has been set up badly. we have badly. unfortunately, we do have to you out to move on. but if you are out there watching and listening tonight are you are tonight and you are you are suffering from this, mean, you suffering from this, i mean, you know, just someone in know, just as i said, someone in my going through my family is going through the same wish you same thing. so i just wish you all best in world all the best luck in the world with getting through with with getting through the next we move on next few months. now we move on next, a fun we've got to have some fun. come on, concrete and strikes next a fun fashion quiz

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soon welcome back. you're watching and listening to gb news with me. dawn neesom still in the studio is charlie lambdin housing founder, housing market tech founder, podcaster housing market tech founder, podcasaer housing market tech founder, podcasa er title. housing market tech founder, podcasaer title. and that's a long title. and benjamin research benjamin loughnane, research fellow group. fellow at the bow group. marvellous. that's shorter. shorter. thank you. right now, very like to do very quickly, i'd like to do a little really little quiz because i'm really good at these sort of things. we have your have some items here in your virtual supermarket basket and i want me much want you to tell me how much they ago. and how they cost now years ago. and how much 15 years so much they cost 15 years ago. so it's a fun inflation quiz. i didn't the didn't write this, by the way, and out didn't write this, by the way, an here. out didn't write this, by the way, an here. hey, out didn't write this, by the way, an here. hey, a out didn't write this, by the way, an here. hey, a time,t of here. but hey, one at a time, please. of here. but hey, one at a time, pleaseokay. at me.

right? okay. and look at me. don't look the. look don't look at the. don't look at any screens because you might cheat, right? the price of sugar today is you can play at home because today is you can play at home beceprice sugar is the price of sugar today is £1.11. you the £1.11. what do you think the price was 15 price of a pack of sugar was 15 years so £0.50 i'd say. years ago? so £0.50 i'd say. >> i'd say i was going to say £0.50 but shall i go different ? £0.50 but shall i go different? >> okay, this average price. >> say £0.60 right? >> i'll say £0.60 right? >> i'll say £0.60 right? >> 50 and £0.60, right. okay. and answer is £0.85 that's and the answer is £0.85 that's quite then. really. right quite pricey then. really. right okay. right this is . yeah. okay. right now this is. yeah. see, they're price of okay. right now this is. yeah. s> where's the average. >> where, where's the average. >> where, where's the average. >> where, where's this pub we're going. average price. everything. it'sjust going. average price. everything. it's just been screamed you're screamed in my ear. you're cross road £7. we're not going road at £7. £7. we're not going there right . the price of a pint there right. the price of a pint today price. today is £4. average price. average. think? average. so what do you think? the of the price of a average price of a ago? the price of a average price of a so ago? the price of a average price of a so see, ago? the price of a average price of a so see, £52 ago? the price of a average price of a so see, £52 much|o? the price of a average price of a so see, £52 much to 2 to 50. >> so see, £52 much to 2 to 50. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> yeah. well charlie, come on. >> yeah. well charlie, come on. >> come on. okay. and the answer is , is £2.30. is, is £2.30. >> oh. >> oh. >> closest then. yeah not bad. okay. we're doing all right here. >> how old are you? 15 years ago. >> he 5 ago. » he ago. >> okay, a foetus. ago. >> okay, don't. etus. ago. >> okay, don't. don't ago. >> 0 now don't. don't ago. >> onow .on't. don't ago. >> onow . petrolon't right] ago. >> onow . petrolon't right . right now. petrol prices right. the today is the price of petrol today is

average. remember 138 point 9pa litre? yeah. what do you think? the price of petrol per litre was? average price years ago was? average price 15 years ago . charlie . right. okay. charlie >> £1, £0.10 litre. >> £1, £0.10 litre. >> benjamin i'll say a pound a litre. >> and the answer is 103.9. >> and the answer is 103.9. >> you're pretty good at this. >> you're pretty good at this. >> used to, right. okay. now milk, this is one milk, obviously this is one politicians wrong. politicians always get wrong. is it ask them how much a it you ask them how much is a pint supermarket pint of milk in the supermarket and any idea. and none of them have any idea. right. the price of a pint of milk £1.05. so do milk today is £1.05. so what do you think price pint you think the price of a pint was ago ? so. right. was 15 years ago? so. right. benjamin, you will go first on this one. £0.70 okay. £0.36 blimey, that's it . £0.40 that blimey, that's it. £0.40 that was good. wow. that's really, that was very impressive. we didn't specify milk didn't specify what milk it was. obviously and some milk and you know, the right. okay. the price of a dozen eggs. this is an exciting shop in this, isn't it? the a eggs day the price of a dozen eggs a day is average what do you is £3.26. average what do you think? dozen eggs is £3.26. average what do you think15 dozen eggs is £3.26. average what do you think15 ago? dozen eggs is £3.26. average what do you think15 ago? do;wantsgs was? 15 years ago? who wants to go £1.50, go first on this one? £1.50, i'll £2. £2.47. wow the i'll say £2. £2.47. wow the foetus. and i don't mean that as an insult. not that one. how old were then? were you then? >> huh? i was centred. >> 12, huh? i was centred. >> 12, huh? i was centred. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah.

>> yes, exactly. i can remember it very well. >> yes, exactly. i can remember it ve|was3ll. in london at >> i was living in london at that age issue. >> believe me, i'm only 25. i lived my life. lived in london all my life. right of right now, the price of a can of coke, coke today is coke, a can of coke today is £0.95, is it really ? blimey. £0.95, is it really? blimey. what the price of what do you think? the price of a 15 ago ? oh, a can was? 15 years ago? oh, charlie, i'm coming to you first. >> oh, 30 years ago. i used to sell school for £0.50 sell them at school for £0.50 made 15 years made £0.25 profit, but 15 years ago, £0.60, that's good. >> entrepreneurial skills. >> entrepreneurial skills. >> £0.40, £0.40. >> yeah. okay. and the answer is £0.45 blimey. right. okay i've got one more. i want to do the other one. i want to do the other one. i want to do the other and other one. right. okay. fish and chips. then chips. right the price back then was £2.43. how much have i quoted in this article for a bag of chips. now fish and chips. >> fish and chips. yeah. >> fish and chips. yeah. >> £12. >> £12. >> fish and chips. yeah. £7. >> fish and chips. yeah. £7. >> blimey. £9. i didn't know that. really expensive. right okay. we have to go. oh, my god . that was so much fun. i hope you right, you haven't got them. all right, that's thank that's it from me today. thank you panel you at you to my panel and to you at home. next is the wonderful home. up next is the wonderful mark but first, are you mark garland. but first, are you doing away ? yes. doing the show away? yes. >> nice >> great. i can't wait. nice >> great. i can't wait. nice >> brighter outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather

on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . showers clearing overnight. some low cloud remaining, even some fog by dawn. but the trend is for it to turn increasingly sunny and increasingly warm over the next few days as high pressure replaces low pressure, low pressure already filling and disappearing overnight. and as a result, the showers and any outbreaks of rain tending to become very isolated through the hours of darkness. a lot of low cloud, i think, especially for england and wales and some fog patches forming by dawn. but the clearest skies will be across northern scotland here. temperatures dipping close to freezing in some of the most sheltered . single figures sheltered spots. single figures widely south. it's widely further south. it's a mild night and again , there'll mild night and again, there'll be some clouds mist as be some low clouds and mist as we start things off. but but that will through the morning lift and it will break up eventually . we'll see some sunny

eventually. we'll see some sunny spells break through . i think spells break through. i think still some cloud remaining, still some cloud remaining, still some cloud remaining, still some showers across england , but not as england and wales, but not as many . there'll be many as recent days. there'll be plenty of weather offer plenty of fine weather on offer and it feel warmer. 26 and it will feel warmer. 26 celsius there. the high in the south—east, low 20s widely elsewhere and into sunday. again a bit of a slow start, some mist and fog. first thing especially for southern parts of the uk breezier further north with some outbreaks of rain the north breezier further north with some outt northwestain the north breezier further north with some outt northwest of the north breezier further north with some outt northwest of scotland. rth breezier further north with some outt northwest of scotland. that and northwest of scotland. that tends to ease later in the day as sunshine develops widely across in time for across the country in time for the start of next week. and as that happens , temperatures rise that happens, temperatures rise i >> -- >>a >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .