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our headlines with our latest news headlines with ray nana. afternoon. >> thanks, nana. good afternoon. 3:01. stories hour. 3:01. our top stories this hour. there are calls for transparency following that public there are calls for transparency followingat that public there are calls for transparency followingat toft public there are calls for transparency followingat tof collapsing sites are at risk of collapsing because of aerated concrete. it's the department it's after the department for education told more than 100 schools to schools and colleges to partially or fully close buildings. as buildings. of course, as students to return to students preparing to return to class, it's estimated that around told class, it's estimated that ar(close told class, it's estimated that ar(close in told class, it's estimated that ar(close in england told class, it's estimated that ar(close in england alone. told class, it's estimated that ar(close in england alone. butold to close in england alone. but that figure is yet to be confirmed. experts are warning that figure is yet to be con'danger experts are warning that figure is yet to be con'danger could:s are warning that figure is yet to be con'danger could extend arning that figure is yet to be con'danger could extend t0|ing the danger could extend to include buildings, include health care, buildings, courts labour courts and offices. labour is demanding an urgent while demanding an urgent audit while the dems described it as a the lib dems described it as a national emergency, which warrants an immediate cobra meeting . there's been a huge meeting. there's been a huge surge in small boats crossing the channel. gb news can reveal around 600 migrants made it to the uk waters in 12 small boats. today people smuggling gangs took advantage of a short improvement in the weather and a very high tide . the number of very high tide. the number of migrants intercepted so far this yearis migrants intercepted so far this year is more than 20,000 rail passengers are facing more disruption as train drivers take

part in their latest strike action. up to 20,000 rmt union members at 14 operators have walked out over pay and conditions . meanwhile, members conditions. meanwhile, members of the train drivers union aslef, who were on picket lines yesterday, there refusing to work overtime today . rmt general work overtime today. rmt general secretary mick lynch told gb news earlier he is hopeful for next week's negotiations . next week's negotiations. >> as we go into those talks with an attitude and a disposition to try and get an agreement. but there are some serious issues as most people know now. we don't want to be on strike. we'd rather much, much rather be earning a living and running the service for the people who need to use it. so hopefully if we can get a different mind mindset next week, we can get some progress. >> the home secretary is being told not to use policing as a quote , political football. the quote, political football. the police federation of england and wales says the government is constantly moving the goalposts , asking officers to be more involved then wanting them to act like robots . so after suella

act like robots. so after suella braverman commissioned a review into activism and impartial parity in the force, she says it can damage public confidence and officers should focus on tackling crime. former police sergeant harry tanguy told gb news police just need to stick to doing their job. >> it's so important that i've seen that uniform has to be a uniform of discipline, respect in order that it can get some sort of authority when they need to use that authority as police forces, police officers , it's forces, police officers, it's much safer to stick to the law protecting life property . protecting life property. >> well, in the united states, body cam footage has been released of a pregnant black woman being shot by police in ohio now warning for those of you watching on television, the video that we're about to show you includes the moments before and after her death. 21 year old takiya young refused to leave her car after being accused of stealing and was seen moving her

vehicle towards one of the officers as a single shot through the windscreen , killed through the windscreen, killed the mother of two and her unborn daughter . the the mother of two and her unborn daughter. the family the mother of two and her unborn daughter . the family lawyer says daughter. the family lawyer says her death was avoidable and is demanding the officers be held accountable . both have been accountable. both have been placed on administer trative leave while an investigation takes place . well, back here, takes place. well, back here, bncks takes place. well, back here, bricks have been salvaged from a pub that's at the centre of an arson investigation in himley in the west midlands. organisers of the west midlands. organisers of the save the crooked house, which was destroyed by fire last month , held a ceremony as they month, held a ceremony as they stored the bricks in locked containers . they hope they can containers. they hope they can be used to rebuild the pub. two men are on condition on bail after being arrested on suspicion of arson with intent to endanger life. conservative mp for dudley north marco longhi says the pub represents the area's industrial heritage. >> this is a coal mining area limestone mining area , metal limestone mining area, metal smelting. this is the metal bashing industry that all came

together a hundred couple of years ago to power the industrial revolution of the country. that's what's being torn away from us in the most brutal of ways. >> that's what we need to put back and that's why they need to be far greater protections for places such as this in dudley, the black country and the rest of the country . of the country. >> well, tributes are being paid to former harrods owner mohamed al—fayed , who died at the age of al—fayed, who died at the age of 94. the family of the egyptian born businessman who also owned fulham fc for 16 years say he passed away peacefully of old age on its site, fulham posted we owe mohamed a debt of gratitude . former spokesperson gratitude. former spokesperson for mr al—fayed , michael cole for mr al—fayed, michael cole told us why he was so special. i mean , highly controversial, of coui'se. >> course. >> but those people who actually knew him , who worked for him, knew him, who worked for him, who were his customers , who were who were his customers, who were the fans of his football club , the fans of his football club, and the many, many, many people who were beneficiaries of his kindness and generosity. they

are without number, i can assure you . you. >> india has launched its first space based solar . probe to space based solar. probe to study the sun . the aditya l1 study the sun. the aditya l1 aims to investigate solar winds , which can cause disturbances on earth. it comes just days after it became the first country to land a spacecraft left on the moon's unexplored south pole . this is gb news south pole. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back . news. now let's get back. >> well, good afternoon . if >> well, good afternoon. if you've just joined me, welcome. i'm nana akua. it'sjust you've just joined me, welcome. i'm nana akua. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 3:00. and time to mock and of course, it's time to mock the week and what a busy one it's been. it kicked off with the annual second day notting it's been. it kicked off with the carnivalecond day notting it's been. it kicked off with the carnival carnage y notting it's been. it kicked off with the carnival carnage horror ng hill carnival carnage horror show. no secret if show. it's no secret that if you're planning bring the you're planning to bring the family, bring then family, don't bring them. then the day, the sunday is

the first day, the sunday is widely touted as family day . widely touted as family day. monday, however, day two or day two is a whole different ball game. and this year we were treated to the added dimension of the daylight zombies. that's people openly wielding zombie knives contrary to their name , knives contrary to their name, but in broad daylight and you develop previous years . i develop on previous years. i love carnival, but i don't know about you, but i'm too scared to go. i actually up on it the go. i actually gave up on it the yeari go. i actually gave up on it the year i almost ended up branded by a boiling hot steel drum of jerk chicken . the usual tally of jerk chicken. the usual tally of stabbings, arrests and general lawlessness followed. david lammy said that there was no greater celebration of black and canbbean greater celebration of black and caribbean culture. i beg to differ. i'm with susan hall. notting hill carnage is downright dangerous. somebody tried to claim it's because people are black. as to why it's getting the negative attention . getting the negative attention. no, i think that's why no one dares to comment. but let's say 75 officers down, eight stabbings, urinating on people's property, hundreds of arrests . property, hundreds of arrests. needi property, hundreds of arrests. need i go on.7 to time move it

elsewhere. the war on motorists began on tuesday when london mayor sadiq khan's ulez scheme across the whole of london began . despite mr khan's office paying . despite mr khan's office paying 800 k for imperial college to research the impact of its effectiveness . this so of its effectiveness. this so they took no notice when the scientists said that ulez had little impact on pollution and pressed ahead anyway. londoners aren't happy and have taken it out on the cameras. a transport for london spokesperson said criminal damage to ulez cameras puts the perpetrator at risk of prosecution and life changing injuries whilst simultaneously risking the safety of the public. they went to on say camera vandalism will not stop the ulez operating london wide and all vandalised cameras are replaced as soon as possible. but unofficial data gathered by ulez opposition group julius ulez opposition group julius ulez map shows almost 1 ulez opposition group julius ulez map shows almost1 in ulez map shows almost 1 in 4 cameras are damaged or missing. although londoners should take some consolation . at least some consolation. at least they're not. in glasgow , where

they're not. in glasgow, where humza useless is more draconian. green zones exist and with labour's deputy leader angela rayner's promise of more schemes like this across the country, b careful what you vote for now everyone's going on strike like the train workers . today we are the train workers. today we are actually paid who actually played pretty well and were propped out very nicely by the taxpayers during the pandemic , taxpayers during the pandemic, which taught us that we don't actually need trains as much as we thought we did. the junior doctors and consultants who may not start with huge salaries, but usually end up on one at the end of a gold plated pension. and this week they've announced a strikes . there's more a host of strikes. there's more to this than meets the eye, of course, though, because the strikes many during the tory strikes many set during the tory party it's party conference. i mean, it's difficult this is difficult to argue that this is not politically motivated . an not politically motivated. an attempt oust the government attempt to oust the government attempt to oust the government at expense. for god's sake, at our expense. for god's sake, people back work. prince people, get back to work. prince harry, heart of invictus. it's dropped. i watched it at the start . he struggled to actually start. he struggled to actually pinpoint what exactly he does.

it was all going so well. but but still couldn't resist but he still couldn't resist a p0p but he still couldn't resist a pop at the british press . listen pop at the british press. listen >> stepping foot off the plane . >> stepping foot off the plane. >> stepping foot off the plane. >> i was angry that this has happened to these guys. i was angry that the media weren't covering it , angry that the media weren't covering it, which wasn't quite true by the way, because he was talking about service men being injured. >> the sun were one of the biggest advocates of supporters of our war vets. but the but then prince harry seems to have a very selective memory. he claimed that he had no help with his mental from his his mental health from his family. the biggest struggle for me was the people. >> no one around me really could help. i didn't have that support structure that structure, that network or that expert advice to identify what was actually going on with me . was actually going on with me. >> but this interview, some years earlier proves otherwise . years earlier proves otherwise. >> you know, for me personally, my brother, you know, bless him, he was a huge support to me and kept saying, you know, this is not right. this is not normal. you need to talk about stuff. it's and the it's okay. and all this and the timing . timing wasn't right. >> is it, harry?

>> well, which one is it, harry? on the whole, though, invictus and heart invictus is and the heart of invictus is what prince harry should actually doing, actually be doing, which was what he was doing before he married meghan went on married meghan and went on his ingratiating fest of a ingratiating whinge fest of a world wide privacy tour. if only we could just unsee that bit . we could just unsee that bit. it's been a mucky old week . so it's been a mucky old week. so coming up in this hour , comedian coming up in this hour, comedian diana spencer will be making light of this week's top stories in mock the week. and on the way, though , today, 3/20, way, though, today, 3/20, climate control . whilst all the climate control. whilst all the attention is on ulez , attention is on the ulez, london's worsening air is not actually just traffic on actually just from traffic on the record levels of air the roads. record levels of air pollution have reported on pollution have been reported on london's underground. is london's underground. so why is the focus not there? then at 335, despite protests , pleas to 335, despite protests, pleas to delay the expansion and criticism from all corners, sadiq khan's ulez expansion has galvanised used tory councillor keith prince will discuss why london mayor sadiq khan simply won't listen and then at 345 it's political spotlight and we'll be discussing woke policing and the carnival chaos.

former police officer peter bleksley will be joining me in the studio to discuss what needs to change to keep the public and police safe. that's on the way in the next hour, as ever. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gb views gbnews.com me at . gb gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. well, let's do it. let's mark the week. it's time to join the fabulous diane spencer. i called you diana . i know. i'm called you diana. i know. i'm sorry about that. >> it happens. my darling. >> it happens. my darling. >> it happens. my darling. >> i mean, that's why i always lose rankings. lose the google rankings. >> yeah. that's a >> is it? oh, yeah. that's a shame. you just thought then you'd the wouldn't you'd be at the top, wouldn't you? well, at the bottom you? well, never at the bottom of top, though, sadly. so of the top, though, sadly. so what you about this what do you think about this week? i mean, week? have you. i mean, i started notting hill started with notting hill carnival. you carnival. have you. have you been h? been to it? >> i've never been to notting hill because two hill carnival because for two reasons. happens during reasons. one, it happens during the that means the day. and that means i need a lot an umbrella lot of sun cream and an umbrella and two, i've always felt that it's going jam packed it's going to be like jam packed . when i saw those photos, . and when i saw those photos, it looks just a rugby it looks like just a rugby scrum. with which scrum. but with sequins, which i

think would be a fabulous addition myself . i mean, you addition myself. i mean, you know how the police have been told you can't wear told now, no, you can't wear rainbow i want rainbow things. and i don't want a rainbow turning up when a rainbow car turning up when i've been burgled because i'll be bnng be upset. maybe we should bring some into the some of that element into the notting hill carnival and we could police sequinned could give the police sequinned riot who maybe riot shields. who knows? maybe it could add a more of a it could add a bit more of a jazzy thing . now being jazzy thing. now i'm being silly, that your silly, but i know that your argument because made an argument because you made an excellent because excellent argument because somebody said this was a representation of culture. representation of black culture. >> lammy that's just rude. >> david lammy that's just rude. >> david lammy that's just rude. >> like all the violence that went on, i don't think that's a fair representation at all. >> that's like saying, oh, football hooliganism. yes, that's what we want. that shows fair play and good attitude towards the sport. it's just a ridiculous thing. it's sad he would say that it's because of all wonderful, you know, the all the wonderful, you know, the processions and all that. processions and all of that. >> but unfortunately , that's not >> but unfortunately, that's not what hear about. gets what we hear about. it gets overshadowed by what happens at the people are weeing the end. and people are weeing in people's gardens and all that. that's revolting. that. and that's revolting. >> last you want, >> the last thing you want, you're there. you're just you're just there. it's your monday morning or

whatever. nice whatever. you've got your nice breakfast muffin. look breakfast muffin. you look outside some outside and there's some hippy having on your begonias. having a wee on your begonias. well, people leave. >> though. i mean, >> people leave, though. i mean, and the invention of ring and the invention of the ring doorbell seems to doorbell that everyone seems to have you know, have these days is, as you know, unearthed whole of stuff have these days is, as you know, uneepeople whole of stuff have these days is, as you know, uneepeople didn't�* of stuff have these days is, as you know, uneepeople didn't see of stuff have these days is, as you know, uneepeople didn't see before uff have these days is, as you know, uneepeople didn't see before ,ff that people didn't see before, which is horrendous. >> it means you watch >> it means you can watch a hippie peeing on your pansies wherever the world. wherever you are in the world. that's not a holiday. if you're tuning in watch that wreckage tuning in to watch that wreckage in garden , then i'm sorry, in your garden, then i'm sorry, but think should move but i think they should move notting hill to notting hill carnival to somewhere lot better that somewhere are a lot better that is used to impact of all is used to the impact of all this violence and basically saying park or maybe syria saying hyde park or maybe syria . i'm just saying that it's one of those places. >> listen, it's not the problem ihave >> listen, it's not the problem i have is that people if you if you had it in a venue where people have bags are checked, nobody would getting in with people have bags are checked, n

were fewer arrests. the only reason are fewer arrests reason there are fewer arrests is people can get away is because people can get away at carnival. they can away at carnival. they can get away so they can get away. but let's just move on because , of course, so they can get away. but let's just rhase on because , of course, so they can get away. but let's just rhas been ecause , of course, so they can get away. but let's just rhas been there , of course, so they can get away. but let's just rhas been the big, of course, so they can get away. but let's just rhas been the big story)urse, so they can get away. but let's just rhas been the big story that, ulez has been the big story that launched on tuesday. >> well, can i just say i heart launched on tuesday. >> blade:an i just say i heart launched on tuesday. >> blade runners? say i heart launched on tuesday. >> blade runners? iay i heart launched on tuesday. >> blade runners? i reallyzart launched on tuesday. >> blade runners? i really do. the blade runners? i really do. as somebody who lives in chessington adventures, chessington world of adventures, i'm shocked. you i'm absolutely shocked. you know, having know, i'm used to having my picture taken when i speed past the camera. i tell the kids to smile. but just think it's smile. but now i just think it's unfair literally just unfair that it is literally just buzzing london is just whenever. and it is shocking. it is affecting the poorest people . affecting the poorest people. and i think if sadiq khan wants to lower the toxic emissions , to lower the toxic emissions, the first thing you should do is sellotape his own shut . sellotape his own mouth shut. that's my goal for him. right? just stop because i'm sorry, but i. i'm getting quite inventive. i. i'm getting quite inventive. i don't know about you, but i am eyeing up the local ulez cameras, thinking i'm quite tall. i reckon i could reach that and do you know what? when you're being fought with red tape bureaucracy, which tape and bureaucracy, which is what a lot of

what the ulez is, a lot of people feel powerless. so of course, the first thing you're going to do is go, right. i can't deal with this in a bureaucratic manner. i'm going to find that stepladder. i'm going spray going to get that can of spray paint . do you going to get that can of spray paint. do you what i bet paint. do you know what i bet that lady down the road that lovely lady down the road who knits those postbox toppers. i bet she'd do me a lovely balaclava. probably would get the whole neighbourhood involved. be unique, involved. well, it'll be unique, though, unfortunately. >> it's the girl >> so the cameras. it's the girl with balaclava that's made with the balaclava that's made by around corner by the lady around the corner that one with the that will is the one with the pumpkin top. pumpkin on top. >> about everybody >> now, what about everybody going know doctors who. the >> do you know doctors who. the thing they are some jobs. thing is, they are some jobs. you don't get paid a lot at the beginning, you beginning, but in the end, you get sometimes you don't get more. sometimes you don't get more. sometimes you don't get at the beginning. get paid a lot at the beginning. you well, they you never get paid well, they get well at the get not paid well at the beginning. towards the end. beginning. well towards the end. and pension, and a gold plated pension, they're they they're complaining that they haven't money at haven't got a lot of money at the start. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. and the weird thing is, is that we have all into national all paid into the national insurance all the time and they're around they're suddenly turning around when appointment, when you want your appointment, you paid my you go, no, i've paid my national my whole national insurance my whole life. we go. life. here we go. >> to have my kidney fixed. >> and they go, no, want a 35%

>> and they go, no, i want a 35% pay >> and they go, no, i want a 35% pay we work it out to pay rise. can we work it out to how much that for us each and how much that is for us each and then well, is your ten? then go, well, is your ten? that's my contribution. action, please. could i now have a kidney stone? >> think that there >> i actually think that there should be a level of performance >> i actually think that there shoron be a level of performance >> i actually think that there shoron this| level of performance >> i actually think that there shoron this so vel of performance >> i actually think that there shoron this so that»f performance >> i actually think that there shoron this so that »f pe know, nce >> i actually think that there shoron this so that »f pe know, if e pay on this so that you know, if they the they don't reach the performance, get the performance, they don't get the pay performance, they don't get the pay rises that will line pay rises that will be in line with inflation. there to with inflation. there needs to be needs to be more be more. there needs to be more accountability because they're holding ransom. holding us to ransom. they're just scupper holding us to ransom. they're justhe scupper holding us to ransom. they're justhe whole scupper holding us to ransom. they're justhe whole nhs scupper holding us to ransom. they're justhe whole nhs and scupper holding us to ransom. they're justhe whole nhs and people are up the whole nhs and people are just up going private. >> well, you do wonder at one point, you know, does the point, you know, where does the hippocratic point, you know, where does the hippocralitical oath? because hipercor litical oath? because now actually affecting now they're actually affecting people's health. starting people's health. i'm starting to think stands for no hope think the nhs stands for no hope suckers, no, said health suckers, no, i said no health service, one. service, but i prefer your one. >> prince harry, have >> finally, prince harry, have you heart of invictus? you seen heart of invictus? >> i haven't. but he >> prince? no, i haven't. but he is my one trick pony . um. he is is my one trick pony. um. he is incredible. prince harry, isn't he? like, even when the games are happening, he could still turn the entire games about himself . i turn the entire games about himself. i bet there are some of those veterans going. do you know what? before i was really annoyed, i got hearing damage from live munitions. from all the live munitions. but now hear what

now that i can't hear what prince harry saying, sort prince harry is saying, i'm sort of so bad. of thinking it's not so bad. i mean , really, they should change mean, really, they should change some to reflect some of the games to reflect prince attitude . so prince harry's attitude. so maybe like a 100 maybe they could have like a 100 mile a thon or maybe they mile mon a thon or maybe they could. you know, do the 100 metre quick whinge or something , or my family's to blame. referee being competition. i don't know. well, i just wish you'd give it up. >> i mean, but at least that is one. i watched it. that is the one. i watched it. that is the one that is a good thing that he's doing there. so i wish he would just stick to that and stop whinging. but listen, diana, calling diana, diane, i keep calling you that. i'm thinking diana. that. i'm thinking lady diana. so, diane, are you back? so, diane, when are you back? when you? oh no, no. when are you? oh no, no. >> well, you know gb news >> well, you know how gb news has youtube has got a wondrous youtube channel, they've channel, and i believe they've just subscribers. just hit a million subscribers. we channel, we also have a youtube channel, so me up alongside so please look me up alongside gb if you're on youtube. gb news. if you're on youtube. >> lovely. >> lovely. >> diane, you >> lovely. >> diane, much >> diane, thank you very much forjoining me. that's diane spencen forjoining me. that's diane spencer. comedian spencer. she's a comedian extraordinaire join extraordinaire. if you just join me, coming up me, welcome. it's just coming up to after 3:00. this to 19 minutes after 3:00. this is news tv online and our is gb news on tv online and our digital nana akua. now, digital radio nana akua. now, don't forget, you can always get in email in touch. email gbviews@gbnews.com. tell what gbviews@gbnews.com. tell me what you we're

you think on everything we're discussing. come, sadiq discussing. still to come, sadiq khan the battle, but khan has won the battle, but will he win the war? tory councillor prince about councillor keith prince about growing the anger and the pressure facing him with regard to ulez. but let's get some weather . weather. >> looks like things are heating up . boxed boilers proud sponsors up. boxed boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. despite some cloud around this morning, many of us have seen some sunny intervals into this afternoon and it will be a fairly fine end to the day as well. cloud tending to as well. the cloud tending to melt into evening, melt away into this evening, providing clear intervals, providing those clear intervals, though mist and will be though the mist and fog will be returning overnight, particularly extensive for central of central eastern areas of england. but we can't rule out some patches elsewhere as well. we'll be windier for the we'll be turning windier for the northern with we'll be turning windier for the northearound with we'll be turning windier for the northearound coastline, with we'll be turning windier for the northearound coastline, some:h gales around coastline, some heavy rain as well heavy outbursts of rain as well and a notably warmer night here compared to previously. but elsewhere, up around 12, elsewhere, staying up around 12, 13 c as well. once that early

mist and fog does clear its way off parts of england, wales and northern ireland should be a relatively fine day. some sunny spells the spells developing into the afternoon, rain will be afternoon, but the rain will be persisting the far north, persisting across the far north, pushing into the highlands. but come will turn come the afternoon it will turn generally lighter and patchy. but with those gusty winds but still with those gusty winds around will hold around that will hold temperatures back in the northwest. elsewhere, northwest. but elsewhere, pleasantly , 26 c in the pleasantly warm, 26 c in the south—east, even 23 c for parts of aberdeen high pressure stays with us into the new working week. we've still got this lingering front in the far north notes how the isobars are also squeezing a bit more squeezing together a bit more across country. so across the west country. so quite coastal quite breezy around coastal lines many of us lines here. but for many of us it a pleasantly warm it will be a pleasantly warm summer's and amount summer's day and a good amount of hold on to of sunshine. we'll hold on to a lot of that sunshine into the forth coming week as well. and temperatures will also be continuing slide up the high continuing to slide up the high 20s possible in places towards wednesday, perhaps even 30 c . wednesday, perhaps even 30 c. >> looks like things are heating up . boxed boilers, proud up. boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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that? why is it not on the tube? well some of the stations have air quality, which is worse than air quality, which is worse than a brick factory. so i'm joined now by jim dale, senior meteorologist and british weather services , and alan weather services, and alan miller from the together declaration. all right. i'm going to start with you to jim dale, because you're going to talk to me and explain to me why ulez is necessary, especially after mayor khan did his own research costing the taxpayer £800,000. they said it £800,000. and even they said it wouldn't be that effective . wouldn't be that effective. >> yeah. nana i alan on. good afternoon to you both . look, afternoon to you both. look, we're going to go into a week of quite hot weather actually . we quite hot weather actually. we might even see the hot point of the year so far later this week. now with that comes high pressure and with that comes subsiding air and with that comes the pollution that you're talking about and it's air pollution . it's not underground pollution. it's not underground pollution. it's not underground pollution . and i, i recognise pollution. and i, i recognise the underground isn't the best place to be. um, are you showing

a picture there, a nice picture of a nice misty, smoggy london air. and that's what ulez is there to prevent or at least to try and inhibit, if there to prevent or at least to try and inhibit , if you like. try and inhibit, if you like. that's the direction of travel. it's happened . it's now law and it's happened. it's now law and in which case for me it's a good thing and also for the poor people of london who mostly haven't got cars , to be frank haven't got cars, to be frank with you, let's make that absolutely plain. and they do suffer more than most in terms of in terms of the illnesses of the in terms of the illnesses that pollution brings. >> well, some people might say this sounds like some sort of thing pretending to help poor people, it's people, but actually it's fleecing . alan well, a few things. >> lots of things being said there. >> but the main point is this is nothing to health. nothing to do with health. >> this is everything to do with money, to do with money, it's to do with surveillance cameras. money, it's to do with surwelance cameras. money, it's to do with surwe know cameras. money, it's to do with surwe know that:ameras. money, it's to do with surwe know that the eras. money, it's to do with surwe know that the majority of >> we know that the majority of people did not want it people said they did not want it in carried on. >> regardless, bought the >> regardless, he bought the cameras, we know cameras, regardless s we know that was really about that if it was really about health, wouldn't able to health, you wouldn't be able to pay health, you wouldn't be able to pay £12.50 to carry on doing it.

>> it's only 1 in 10, they say, although could although it looks like it could be 3 in 10. be more than 3 in 10. >> if it's only such few >> but if it's only such few amounts, is it going to have that much of an impact? >> and the key >> the key question and the key point the internal point is that the internal combustion engine in the last four decades has been transformed amount of transformed and the amount of pollution has been pollution in our air has been radically . radically improved. >> we now, in metrics internationally , are far better internationally, are far better than most competing nation states in europe and around the world. and if people are very serious about longevity , about serious about longevity, about health, the metrics for that are great housing. people being able to go out and earn good money and down under in the underground , the tfl, which the underground, the tfl, which the mayor is directly in control of, we that particles and we know that particles and issues breath, issues in terms of breath, everybody done it. everybody has now done it. everyone's now done checks. we've all been able to see it. he focussed on that he hasn't focussed on that because it's not really about this. about able to this. it's about being able to have make a lot of have cameras up to make a lot of money. he should just be honest about but then spinning it about that. but then spinning it and interfering with peer reviewed , independent scientific reviewed, independent scientific research at imperial and in

queen mary university because they don't like the results and they don't like the results and the outcome. this is the stuff of tyrannies, to be honest. and it's not something we'd expect here. there's a reason people are so furious. there's a reason people are challenging and fighting back and actually on wednesday the sixth, prime minister questions many people have and going to have organised and are going to be insisting that gets be insisting that this gets stopped . that prime stopped. at that the prime minister takes stand on it and minister takes a stand on it and engaging more people to get involved challenging together. >> well, would probably argue >> well, he would probably argue that interfering with that he's not interfering with it, although you know , it's it, although you know, it's difficult to argue against the fact that he did sort of somebody in his office tried to ask them to sort of say, give the results in a slightly more gentle manner. but the results themselves do speak volumes. jim and the results of an expansion of ulez did not say that it would really make much difference to the air quality. so jim , whilst a lot of people so jim, whilst a lot of people want good air, this sounds like a money grab. surely we know it's not go back to the common

sense thing. >> i think even alan would agree that what comes out of the back of a car isn't or a back of any vehicle isn't exactly where we would want to be. you wouldn't want to spend your afternoon sat behind a motor car or you know, on a road somewhere like the marylebone for example. marylebone road, for example. and take in that air. so we're all of the same view. i think the argument is the financial side. i'm not mistaken, side. if i'm not mistaken, i spoke to a lot of ulez protesters while i was doing an obe on tuesday the channel. obe on tuesday for the channel. and you know what it came down to at the end of the day is that they weren't they were on side as far as the health side is concerned. you would expect that to be the case. and they were very much of the same voice as myself. so it was a financial thing. so i would say this sunak as our prime minister needs to knock of the likes knock on the door of the likes of shell, esso and oil of shell, esso and other oil providers. if there is a financial between between financial gap between in between ulez and the so—called poor people can't afford this, people who can't afford this, then that's where the money

should from. actual should come from. the actual polluters. in the first instance, those that supply the oil petrol because oil and the petrol because they've got billions and billions pounds that they can billions of pounds that they can just everybody then just give and everybody then will be happy and then we can go and look at the tube. >> but, but adam makes a good point to the point with regard to the combustion engine. mean, the combustion engine. i mean, the older taken many older stats were taken many years combustion years ago. the combustion engine is good these is pretty is pretty good these days focus on the days. so the focus on the combustion engine will seem like a small, small steps, small steps and it's the right direction. >> electric cars the right direction. hybrid cars. the right direction . this is a this right direction. this is a this is about small steps, including climate thing . climate change. the same thing. >> you're not going to overnight. >> and what you will find this week, as i've already mentioned , is that pollution level in london, will and other cities, by the way , will go up as the by the way, will go up as the subsiding air comes down. >> so your levels are going to. >> so your levels are going to. >> so your levels are going to. >> so you're saying they're going to fall? i've got to give a final word to alan and you've got about 30s. wrap up got about 30s. just to wrap up risk tfl's own report and evidence and it's actual graphic.

>> people can check it can show how good the air is. it's generally fantastic. carbon has transformed our lives and improved immeasurably. transformed our lives and improved immeasurably . we're improved it immeasurably. we're far than we ever were far better off than we ever were before don't where before. i don't know where people think electric cars come before. i don't know where peop and ink electric cars come before. i don't know where peop and howzlectric cars come before. i don't know where peop and how theyic cars come before. i don't know where peop and how they getirs come before. i don't know where peop and how they get made1e before. i don't know where peop and how they get made ,5 before. i don't know where peop and how they get made , but from and how they get made, but the footprint them the carbon footprint of them is enormous . the carbon footprint of them is enormous. it's the carbon footprint of them is enormous . it's preposterous to enormous. it's preposterous to think that's not. think that somehow that's not. it's pretending or lying. it's just pretending or lying. if one knows better and the reality is this has got nothing to do with health, got everything to with everything to do with surveillance and taking money. it's people want. and it's not what people want. and these are the new demarcation lines. people are going to challenge the challenge this with ulez and the other zones and the clean other les zones and the clean air like they've in air zones like they've done in the midlands traffic the midlands and low traffic neighbourhoods and other neighbourhoods and the other impositions. and the more that people involved in and people get involved in that and make heard, the make their voices heard, the better. join. on september 6th. >> listen, listen, i've >> well, listen, listen, i've got there, but know got to wrap up there, but i know it's an argument that will continue. >> jim dale, senior meteorologist, and also alan miller, the miller, co—founder of the together you together declaration, thank you so thoughts? so much. what are your thoughts? you're with me. i'm nana akua. this news on tv, this is the gb news on tv, onune this is the gb news on tv, online on digital radio. online and on digital radio. coming political spotlight coming up, political spotlight with detective with former police detective peter bleksley on the chaos at notting carnage as i like

notting hill. carnage as i like to call it, and suella bravermans to review bravermans call to review political within the political activism within the police but next up, tory police force. but next up, tory councillor the councillor keith prince on the growing anger towards london mayor but first, mayor sadiq khan. but first, let's latest news let's get your latest news headunes. let's get your latest news headlines . with ray addison . headlines. with ray addison. >> thanks, nana it's 333. our top stories this hour. there are calls for transparent sea following fears that public sites are at risk of collapsing because of aerated concrete sites. after the department for education told more than 100 schools and colleges to partially or fully close buildings. labour is demanding an urgent audit while the lib dems described it as a national emergency, which warrants an immediate cobra meeting , rail immediate cobra meeting, rail passengers are facing more disruption as train drivers take part in their latest strike up to 20,000 rmt union members for train operators have walked out over pay and conditions. meanwhile, members of the train

drivers union aslef who were on picket lines yesterday say they're refusing to work overtime today . the home overtime today. the home secretary is being told not to use policing as a political football. the police federation of england and wales says the government is constantly moving the goalposts and asking officers to be more involved and then wanting them to act like robots . after suella braverman robots. after suella braverman commissioned a review into activism and impartial reality in the force, she says it can damage public confidence and officers should focus on tackling crime . there's been tackling crime. there's been a huge surge in small boats crossing the channel. gb news can reveal around 600 migrants made it to the uk waters in 12 small boats. today people smuggling gangs took advantage of a short improvement .inthe of a short improvement .in the weather and a very high tide . weather and a very high tide. the number of migrants intercepted so far this year now stands at more than 20,000. tributes are being paid to former harrods owner mohamed

al—fayed, who died at the age of 94. the family of the egyptian born businessman who also owned fulham fc for 16 years, says he passed away peacefully of old age. on its site, fulham posted , we owe mohamed a debt of gratitude and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , visiting our website, gbnews.com. now let's get straight back to nana . straight back to nana. >> thank you, ray. coming up, it's political spotlight. former police detective peter bleksley will be in the studio to discuss the notting hill carnival of chaos and suella braverman review into activist policing. stay tuned . don't go

tv, radio and online gb news. britain's news . tv, radio and online gb news. britain's news. channel >> good afternoon. 39 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. now whether it's ulez, the notting hill carnival or any of the other things that dilapidated services, lack of housing, the list of issues are piling high on the desk of london mayor sadiq khan and yes, siddique's power and popularity within labour the within the labour party with the ear leader , sir keir ear of the leader, sir keir starmer hasn't been dented . you starmer hasn't been dented. you only need to look back on the week the past week to understand how the issues facing london are merely a microcosm of what is facing rest of the uk. so facing the rest of the uk. so joining me now is conservative member of london assembly, keith prince. keith, welcome prince. discuss. keith, welcome aboard. thank you much for aboard. thank you very much for joining . looks you're joining me. looks like you're in

a hospital. joining me. looks like you're in a hospitalyou . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> no, mean, my, uh. in my >> no, i mean, my, uh. in my office, actually. >> sorry. is it very hospitali you didn't nick those chairs from the hospital, did you? >> i'm joking. from the hospital, did you? >> i'm joking . isn't keith on on >> i'm joking. isn't keith on on news live anyway? no, you wouldn't. all right, well, let's get stuck in, because, look, seriously, sadiq khan, i mean , seriously, sadiq khan, i mean, what is going on there? we have had and the reason we're focusing on here, because focusing on it here, because this isn't something that is going be london, they've going to be only london, they've got in glasgow got a green er zones in glasgow and people are doing other and other people are doing other things and everything seems to be going into this direction. but listening . but sadiq khan isn't listening. what, how come he seems to have so much power. >> well he does have power because it was given to him in the 1999 act, and i think some people are beginning to realise that his power is unfettered . that his power is unfettered. and even though we have the assembly and we are able to, on rare occasions, overrule him, it's only if we can have a two thirds majority. well, of

course, as nearly half the assembly are labour, we're never ever going to a situation ever going to have a situation where we a two thirds where we have a two thirds majority the madness. where we have a two thirds majoisy the madness. where we have a two thirds majois that the madness. where we have a two thirds majois that is the madness. where we have a two thirds majois that is sadiqmadness. where we have a two thirds majois that is sadiq khanass. where we have a two thirds majois that is sadiq khan .;s. that is that is sadiq khan. >> well, it just seems so . we >> well, it just seems so. we have people now wrecking the cameras and the and actually they've doubled down. so the ulez people have doubled down and said that every time you wreck a camera, we're going to fix the situation and carry on. does need to give? does something need to give? because can't go on? because this can't go on? >> i really don't think sadiq appreciates how angry people are. we had a special meeting this week at my council, but the weekend before i was out in the streets of romford and i can tell you people are really angry and they're not just angry with sadiq . they're angry with us sadiq. they're angry with us too. and i can understand that. i can understand why they're angry with the conservative lives because they feel we haven't done enough to help them. yes the lawyers are saying that illegally can do it. but i really do think we should have

stepped in and we should have challenged the consultation because he broke virtually every rule around the consultation and we should have said, sorry, mate, you've got to do it again. >> well, is he not focusing >> well, why is he not focusing on, london underground? on, say, the london underground? because pollution because the levels of pollution by any monitor and every monitor, even the ones that aren't that's aren't calibrated because that's what keep saying. well, aren't calibrated because that's th’ device keep saying. well, aren't calibrated because that's whédevice isn'tep saying. well, aren't calibrated because that's th’ device isn't calibrated well, aren't calibrated because that's th’ device isn't calibrated .�*ell, aren't calibrated because that's whédevice isn't calibrated . so the device isn't calibrated. so it's with. but with it's not even with. but with every monitor proves that the air quality there is far worse than anything above ground. why has sadiq khan not focussed on that. >> well, because he can't raise any revenue from that. but you're right, as always , nanny, you're right, as always, nanny, you're right, as always, nanny, you're very well informed . the you're very well informed. the london underground is 30% more polluting than at ground level on the street . but of course, he on the street. but of course, he can't raise any revenue by taxing the tube lines. but of course he can tax people who can't afford it. and this is all about him raising £200 million. it's got nothing to do with air quality because his own survey says said that the impact would

be negligible. he actually said to me or he wrote to me in 2021 saying he had no plans to roll out the extent of the ulez to the outer london boroughs and that he himself said that this was not the way to do it, that it would be a way of doing it in a more focussed and just concentrating on the areas of high pollution, not a blanket approach . that's what he wrote approach. that's what he wrote to me and said in 2021. and now two years later, look where we are. >> and it seems that there's no there's no likely letter by the looks of things. do you think ultimately this could cost the labour party because sadiq khan is a labour mayor he lost they lost their seat because and it was boris johnson's old seat. so that must have really hurt keir starmer. but they lost that seat and that was literally theirs for the taking. but was big for the taking. but this was big enough affect enough of an issue to affect them. well well, i think it will cost because let's very cost him because let's be very clear, hall, i just spoke clear, susan hall, i just spoke to few minutes ago. to a few minutes ago. >> i think she's coming to see

you in a couple of weeks. i think, she is our mayoral think, um, she is our mayoral candidate and she's made it very, clear on day one. very, very clear on day one. once she takes up office, she will cancel the outer london ulez. so people, when they go to vote, they have a clear choice. they can vote for anyone they like and keep ulez or they can vote for susan hall and it will be delete did well. >> of course, both sides of the story. sadiq khan would argue that what he's doing is improving pollution and that even if it is by a minuscule amount because his own survey showed that what was showed that what he was initially projecting wasn't showed that what he was initia|the rojecting wasn't showed that what he was initia|the amount| wasn't showed that what he was initia|the amount ofasn't showed that what he was initia|the amount of improvement quite the amount of improvement , it was a minuscule improvement. but he would argue , it was a minuscule imprhe'sfent. but he would argue , it was a minuscule imprhe's improvingie would argue , it was a minuscule imprhe's improving pollutionirgue that he's improving pollution and that is a worthy cause. keith prince , very good talk keith prince, very good to talk to you. you much. to you. thank you very much. thank kehh to you. thank you very much. thank keith prince . thank you. that's keith prince. he's a conservative member of the . but right the london assembly. but right now, you've just me, now, if you've just joined me, welcome 45 minutes welcome on board. 45 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana this after 3:00. i'm nana akua this is it's time now for is gb news and it's time now for this week's political spotlight . now, it's meant to be a celebration of caribbean culture, carnival

culture, steel bands, carnival processions and sequinned costumes for adults and children alike. it should be the perfect way to spend a bank holiday weekend. what i talking about weekend. what am i talking about ? yes, the hill carnival ? yes, the notting hill carnival or notting hill carnival, as i like to call it. however, the annual festival has turned into anything but a joyous occasion. the has actually turned the carnival has actually turned into a festival of violence and chaos. and this year alone , chaos. and this year alone, eight men were stabbed to remaining in intensive care. more than 75 police officers were attacked , some punched and were attacked, some punched and kicked. one was sexually assaulted, six officers were bitten and others were urinated on from upstairs windows. i mean, you know, do you really want to go all in all, 300 people were arrested for violence, sexual violence, sexual offences and possession of drugs and dangerous weapons. a metropolitan police commissioner, sir mark rowley, said it is an amazing community event. we will be reviewing what's gone on with the organisers and looking at what more can be done to improve safety. but actually you've got a million people there turning up and having a fantastic time.

labour's david lammy also defended the event, saying london has been shaped in many ways by black and caribbean culture and heritage and there is no greater celebration of this than notting hill carnival . but i think what was originally intended, so i can't help laughing really. that's not how it goes , where i'm where i'm how it goes, where i'm where i'm from. and in my household, around friends and family. around my friends and family. but what was originally but i think what was originally intended be joyous weekend intended to be a joyous weekend of festivities has of caribbean festivities has become victim of own become a victim of its own success actually turned success and has actually turned into and unsafe into a very dangerous and unsafe environment . joining me is environment. joining me now is former detective peter former police detective peter bleksley. thank you very bleksley. peter, thank you very much for joining bleksley. peter, thank you very much forjoining me. we're going to this in all to talk about this in all things, start with things, but let's start with notting carnival . how notting hill carnival. how difficult it to police such difficult is it to police such an event like that? >> well, firstly , i think i >> well, firstly, i think i ought to mention 21 year old takayo nembhard , who was takayo nembhard, who was murdered at the notting hill carnival last year in 2022. >> that murder remains unsolved . in fact, in the week before this carnival, crime stoppers have offered a £20,000 reward

for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those who were responsible for murdering that young man down at the carnival last year. and it's largely been forgotten . and i largely been forgotten. and i make no apology for reminding people that as well as the orgy of violence that we had this yean of violence that we had this year, there is the outstanding murder from last year. year, there is the outstanding murder from last year . clearly, murder from last year. clearly, this is unacceptable. many many police officers dread going to police officers dread going to police the notting hill carnival because they know there will be violence . but there's a pretty violence. but there's a pretty strong likelihood that they or their colleagues will be assaulted. and we saw that again this year yet again . i think in this year yet again. i think in principle and in the mind, it is a joyous occasion for people to go to and to enjoy. a joyous occasion for people to go to and to enjoy . and largely go to and to enjoy. and largely on the sunday when it's sort of titled children's day, things appear to be a lot more peaceful. but it always descends every year into violence on on

the monday blood is spilt, people are stabbed . people get people are stabbed. people get very severe . really hurt . and very severe. really hurt. and there must be solutions as well. >> i mean, this year we had the added bonus of people running around openly with the zombie knives, which, you know, that hasn't been seen normally. normally somebody gets stabbed, you about it. but the you hear about it. but the perpetrator were perpetrator hides. there were scenes of people blazingly waving these knives around like a sign of some sort of i don't know, like some sort of prize at people's faces. fearful in the background. what is happening? what has gone wrong? yes >> there were those scenes and those photos, graphs splashed all across the newspapers. and |, all across the newspapers. and i, of course , saw them. and back i, of course, saw them. and back in the day i was a firearms officer. i had a pink ticket as i recall in those days, tucked in your back pocket. and if i needed a gun, i could book one out and had there been circumstances such as that in which i was present and i had a

gun, that weapon would most certainly have been drawn and serious consideration given as to whether i needed to pull the trigger or not. >> but you've got people around you, though. i mean, of course it wrong. could up. it goes wrong. you could end up. >> and i'm >> absolutely. and i'm hypothesising about a situation which course, never which will, of course, never happen now because i'm long since retired. but i'm talking about the serious of that criminality and somebody armed with such a weapon clear , with such a weapon clear, clearly intent on hurting someone . there needs to be some someone. there needs to be some sort of intervention in that situation. and when we're talking about intervention and possible answers, hide park is about two miles from notting hill. it's a short couple of stops on the central line. it really is. and hyde park has hosted many challenged events over the years. the rolling stones have played there. robbie williams has played there, kylie minogue , everybody's played hyde minogue, everybody's played hyde park and of course every year it hosts an event which is sometimes frowned upon. but it

is the celebration of cannabis event when loads of stoners rock up, there probably talk about modern jazz and eat lots of maltesers you know, as they indulge in their chosen drug of choice . so hyde park is very choice. so hyde park is very much used to hosting events with challenges. it's a huge park. >> they say . they say, what's >> they say. they say, what's the capacity? 90,000? or was it 90 or 900,000? but 90,000, which is a lot smaller than carnival, is a lot smaller than carnival, is what people might ask. >> yes. yes, indeed. but with the numbers that attend carnival , not everybody goes there. and stays there all day. >> i see. »- >> i see. >> perhaps, perhaps windows of opportunity could be created and ticketed windows of people going and entry and exit could be managed as such . managed as such. >> it's a zombie knives all of those sort of things. >> metal detecting arches being deployed and the suchlike. and i can probably hear people opposed to this screaming and shouting

as i speak. but perhaps it ought to be explored because so much of notting hill creates kind of rat runs and places to escape under the westway , people come under the westway, people come in, indulge in this criminality. their balaclava is up. they look like what they are, which is lawless hoodlums. they commit these crimes, people get hurt and they disappear. as is borne out by the murder last year of 21 year old takeo . 21 year old takeo. >> well, i had somebody arguing with me saying, well, creamfields has more arrests per head. and i was like, well, creamfields is an enclosed venue and if a criminal does something carnival, they can run off and there's no way of them getting out. carnival was enclosed out. if carnival was enclosed and this kind of lawlessness was happening, would happening, the people would have been the been caught and arrested and the numbers be a lot higher. numbers would be a lot higher. now, i'm with you on that. i think they should keep carnival, but i think it should move. i think should be in in a venue think it should be in in a venue that can be policed. but i want to briefly touch on to quickly briefly touch on

suella bravermans comments about wokery within policing. do you do agree with that do you agree with her that actually a lot of it has lost its that now this its way and that now this woke is affecting the effectiveness of police? of the police? >> policing has lost its in >> policing has lost its way in many regards . some bits of this many regards. some bits of this are still really effective, which would be out by the which would be borne out by the fact that our prisons are full. so they're good at doing some stuff. but public facing stuff. but that public facing stuff. but that public facing stuff front facing stuff stuff that front facing stuff that people see and the imagery has really got quite out of hand . the police uniform should be a sacrosanct symbol of impartial reality. there shouldn't be badges and epaulettes linking theirselves or showing some allegiance to anything . in the allegiance to anything. in the unlikely event that i ruled the policing world, i wouldn't even allow officers to wear a poppy because i know a poppy is not allegiance. it's remember this. but in this age of white poppies, where does it start? where does it end ? and so where does it end? and so i completely agree with much of the sentiments that she laid out

in her letter to the chief of the police inspector it. and let's hope we can get a police force that actually realises what it's there for, what it should do and how it should serve the public. >> well, listen, peter, it's always a pleasure. good to talk to you. thank you so much. that is, of course, peter bleksley. he was a former police detective. see detective. well, let's see what you've saying. of you you've been saying. a lot of you have getting in touch with you've been saying. a lot of you have thoughts ting in touch with you've been saying. a lot of you have thoughts on; in touch with you've been saying. a lot of you have thoughts on the touch with you've been saying. a lot of you have thoughts on the topics with your thoughts on the topics we've been discussing. theresa says nothing to do says this has got nothing to do with on the with pollution. that's on the subject . if we it was subject of ulez. if we if it was genuinely about pollution, the mayor would ban all non compliant from entering compliant vehicles from entering london. a money london. he's just a money grabber. steve says. close the tubes, stop the buses, make everyone walk . hold on a minute. everyone walk. hold on a minute. don't we have something called an air quality emissions are checked to comply to national regulations. so why is london different? ian says outer london ulez is nothing more than public robbery . the new areas already robbery. the new areas already have some of the cleanest air in the country. they don't need more measures . we'll keep your

more measures. we'll keep your thoughts coming as ever on the way i've got my monologue is about wokery that seems about the wokery that seems to have grabbed country and have grabbed this country and is destroying you're with me. destroying it. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio the way. our great radio on the way. our great british i'm british debate this hour. i'm asking that asking do you believe that rishi sunak the next general sunak can win the next general election? just as i mentioned , election? just as i mentioned, my monologue, country my monologue, is the country going a handcart? but going to hell in a handcart? but what's to blame? let's find out. but first, get some but first, let's get some weather. temperature is rising. >> boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. despite some cloud around this morning, many of us have seen some sunny intervals into this afternoon and it will be a fairly fine end to the day as the cloud tending to as well. the cloud tending to melt away this evening, melt away into this evening, providing those clear intervals, though, fog will be though, the mist and fog will be returning overnight, particularly extensive for central eastern areas of england. but we can't rule out some patches elsewhere as well.

we'll windier for the we'll be turning windier for the northern with northern scotland though, with gales around coastline, some heavy outbursts of rain as well. and noticeably warmer night and a noticeably warmer night here previously. here compared to previously. but elsewhere, around 12, elsewhere, staying up around 12, 13 c as well. once that early mist and fog does clear its way off, parts of england, wales and northern ireland should be a relatively fine day. some sunny spells developing into the afternoon, but the rain will be persisting across far north, persisting across the far north, pushing the highlands. but pushing into the highlands. but come it will turn come the afternoon it will turn generally and patchier . generally lighter and patchier. but still those gusty winds but still with those gusty winds around , that will hold around, that will hold temperatures in temperatures back in the northwest elsewhere, northwest, but elsewhere, pleasantly , 26 c in the pleasantly warm, 26 c in the south—east, even 23 c for parts of aberdeen . high pressure stays of aberdeen. high pressure stays with us into the new working week. we've still got this lingering front far lingering front in the far north. and notice how the isobars squeezing isobars are also squeezing together across the isobars are also squeezing toget country. across the isobars are also squeezing togetcountry. so across the isobars are also squeezing togetcountry. so quite �*oss the isobars are also squeezing togetcountry. so quite breezye west country. so quite breezy around lines but around coastal lines here, but for us will be a for many of us it will be a pleasantly warm summers day and a of sunshine . we'll a good amount of sunshine. we'll hold on to a lot of that sunshine into the forth coming week temperatures week as well. and temperatures will continuing to slide will also be continuing to slide up high possible in

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>> good afternoon. it's 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now . so this show is all about opinion . it's mine, it's theirs. opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be discussing , and of course it's yours. we'll be discussing, and at be debating, discussing, and at times will disagree. but no times we will disagree. but no one . joining one will be cancelled. joining me today is broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour mp simon danczuk. before we get started , though, before we get started, though, let's get your latest news headunes let's get your latest news headlines with aaron armstrong . headlines with aaron armstrong. >> good afternoon . >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> it's 4:00 aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. the condition of some public buildings, including hospitals, is being described as jaw dropping as concerns grow over the risk of collapse. >> the chair of the commons pubuc >> the chair of the commons public accounts committee is warning the issue of aerated concrete in schools is just the tip of the iceberg. >> writing in the times dame meg

hillier says eyewatering sums of money are being spent on mitigating the risks labour is demanding an urgent audit, while the liberal democrats have labelled it a national emergency which warrants an immediate cobra meeting . there's been cobra meeting. there's been a huge surge in small boats crossing the channel. gb news can reveal around 600 migrants made it to the uk waters in 12 small boats. today a people smuggling gangs took advantage of a brief improvement in the weather and a high tide. the number of migrants intercepted so far this year now stands at more than 20,000 excuse me. rail passengers are facing more disruption as train drivers take part in their latest strike. up to 20,000 rmt union members at 14 operators have walked out this weekend and over pay and conditions . meanwhile, members conditions. meanwhile, members of the train drivers union aslef who were on the picket line yesterday are refusing to work overtime today. rmt general secretary mick lynch told gb news he's hopeful for next week's negotiations. we go into those talks with an attitude and

a disposition to try and get an agreement, but there are some serious issues. >> as most people know now, we don't want to be on strike. we rather much. i'd much rather be earning a living running the earning a living and running the service people need service for the people who need to it . so hopefully if we to use it. so hopefully if we can get a different mindset next week, we can get some progress. >> the home secretary is being told not to use policing as a political football. the police federation of england and wales says the government is constantly goalposts constantly moving the goalposts and asking officers to be more involved and wanting them to act like robots . it's after suella like robots. it's after suella braverman commissioned a review into activism and impartiality into activism and impartiality in the force . she says it can in the force. she says it can damage public confidence and officers should focus on tackling crime. former sergeant harry tonge told gb news police just need to stick to doing their job. >> it's so theirjob. >> it's so important that their job. >> it's so important that they are seen that uniform has to be are seen that uniform has to be a uniform of discipline, respect in order that it can get some sort of authority when they need

to use that authority as police forces , police officers, it's forces, police officers, it's much safer to stick to the law protecting life property in the united states . united states. >> bodycam footage has been released of a pregnant black woman being shot by police in ohio. a warning we are about to show you. video which includes the moments before and after her death. 21 year old takiya young refused to leave her car after being accused of stealing and was seen moving her vehicle towards one of the officers. a single shot through the windscreen killed the mother of two and her unborn daughter. a family lawyer says her death was avoidable and is demanding officers be held accountable . officers be held accountable. both have been placed on administrative leave while an investigation takes place and bncks investigation takes place and bricks have been salvaged from a pub that's at the centre of an arson investigation in himley in the west midlands. organisers of the west midlands. organisers of the save the crooked house, which was destroyed by fire last month , held a ceremony as they month, held a ceremony as they stored the bricks in locked

containers. they hope that those bncks containers. they hope that those bricks can be used to rebuild the pub. two men are on conditional bail after being arrested on suspicion of arson with intent endanger life . with intent to endanger life. conservative mp for dudley north marco longhi says the pub represents the areas industrial heritage. >> this is a coal mining area , >> this is a coal mining area, limestone mining area , metal limestone mining area, metal smelting. this is the metal bashing industry that all came together a hundred couple of years ago to power the industrial revolution of the country. that's what's being torn away from us in the most brutal of ways . that's what we brutal of ways. that's what we need to put back . and that's why need to put back. and that's why there needs to be far greater protections for places such as this. in dudley, the black country and the rest of the country and the rest of the country . country. >> tributes are being paid to the former harrods owner, mohamed al—fayed , who died at mohamed al—fayed, who died at the age of 94. the family of the egyptian born businessman who also owned fulham football club for 16 years, says he passed away peacefully of old age . on

away peacefully of old age. on its site, fulham posted this we owe mohamed a debt of gratitude . and india has launched its first space based solar probe to study the sun. the aditya l1 aims to study solar winds, which can cause disturbances on earth . it comes just days after india became the first country to land a space craft on the unexplored south pole of the moon . south pole of the moon. >> and this is gb news. >> and this is gb news. >> i'll be back with more in just under half an hour's time . just under half an hour's time. now it's over to nana . now it's over to nana. >> good afternoon . this is gb >> good afternoon. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua . it's channel. i'm nana akua. it's fast approaching. six minutes after 4:00. it doesn't rain. it pours . this great country wants pours. this great country wants revered by the rest of the world, seems to be going to hell in a handcart. and i blame it on the infiltrate of wokery take

our once great police force the envy of the world which prided itself on the use of consensual policing without the need for firearms. it has turned into mush before our very eyes and it's now more concerned with taking the knee and rainbow laces. hurty feelings and hate crimes online and declaring itself institutionally racist, which doesn't help anyone. i'm not saying don't ask the racist misogynists and the homophobes. i'm just wondering how they got in there in the first place. the legal system is crumbling with a backlog of cases. when people do eventually come to trial, authorities are too scared to drag murderers like lucy letby back into the dock to hear their sentencing for fear of injuring them. oh, we can't force them. hello what about the victims and their families ? what about the their families? what about the injury to them ? there's a injury to them? there's a pursuit of net zero with an arbitrary target of 2050. and the expectation that the hard working people of this country will cough up whatever it takes

to reach this holier than thou pious goal that ignores the suffering of those mining, the scarce minerals and the pollution elsewhere . a virtue pollution elsewhere. a virtue signal. if ever i did see one and the likes of sadiq khan driving people out of our great capital city, london, by bringing in a pointless ulez expansion scheme which by his own 800 research, admits britain will not deliver any substantial change in air quality, which he claims has killed thousands. and yet only one death by this in the capital has been officially recorded . what about the recorded. what about the infiltration of dangerous gender gobbledegook in our schools which are crumbling, by the gobbledegook in our schools which are crumbling , by the way? which are crumbling, by the way? but let's not let that get in the way of teaching five year olds that they can choose how to identify. i mean, why are they waited 2—1 week before the school term starts? point out that at any moment a school roof could crumble and collapse is beyond me . i mean, they must beyond me. i mean, they must have known this two months ago. so didn't they fix so why on earth didn't they fix it when the schools were

it then when the schools were closed? but i know? closed? but what do i know? we've got banks, advertisers and other commercial organisations who need your custom. by the way , refusing to accept it if your views don't align with their woke values. i thought this was a capitalist country , but a capitalist country, but they've got us by the short and curlies raising curlies unilaterally raising pnces curlies unilaterally raising prices of the cost of prices because of the cost of living this manmade crisis. so we all have to suck it up and we're determined to bankrupt ourselves with reparations . ourselves with reparations. look, i hate to burst your bubble , but slavery was not bubble, but slavery was not invented by the british. and in fact, western europe was the only place that didn't have slavery. and the uk were the first abolish it. and it's first to abolish it. and it's still going africa and still going on in africa and other of the world. i other parts of the world. i mean, the africans actually rounded and rounded up their own people and took white slave took them to the white slave traders on the coast. if people want reparations, suggest they traders on the coast. if people want inparations, suggest they traders on the coast. if people want in africa. is, suggest they traders on the coast. if people want in africa. and suggest they traders on the coast. if people want in africa. and goodest they traders on the coast. if people want in africa. and good luck ey start in africa. and good luck with one. and get me with that one. and don't get me started boats . a mention started on the boats. a mention of turning them back will bring the woke left wing activists out in a rash . although, to be in a rash. although, to be honest, aside from all the free stuff, it's a wonder that they

want come here. pretty want to come here. as i'm pretty sure many values don't sure many of their values don't augn sure many of their values don't align the wokery they're align with the wokery they're taking politicians taking advantage of politicians to get a grip. it's time to start listening to the people you represent . what we entrusted you represent. what we entrusted you represent. what we entrusted you to make the right decisions on behalf. using what we on our behalf. using what we thought was your better judgement , thought was your better judgement, but instead common sense politicians like suella braverman , kemi badenoch, and braverman, kemi badenoch, and even to a degree rishi sunak at least he knows what a woman is. unlike our friend sir keir starmer, who took two years to finally it , those finally admit it, those politicians have been marginalised by wokerati marginalised by the wokerati liberal who don't live in liberal elite who don't live in the real world. the people of this country are what makes it great. time for the great. it's time for the politicians start listening politicians to start listening before great britain goes to hell in a handcart . hey, cheer hell in a handcart. hey, cheer up, people . come on. before we up, people. come on. before we get stuck into debate, here's what else is coming up today. the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. asking, do you believe the great british debate this hour. sunak king, do you believe the great british debate this hour. sunak can , do you believe the great british debate this hour. sunak can actually believe the great british debate this hour. sunak can actually win eve the great british debate this hour. sunak can actually win the rishi sunak can actually win the next general election ? downing

next general election? downing street resignations and a mini cabinet reshuffle have made it an unsettling week for the prime minister. with election minister. with an election expected in the coming year , do expected in the coming year, do you believe that rishi actually has in win and then at has it in him to win and then at 450 as well, round up time for former royal butler grant harrold give us the latest harrold will give us the latest from behind the palace walls. and menu, former harold and on the menu, former harold harrods and fulham fc owner mohamed al—fayed has died at the age of 94, almost 26 years to the day since his son dodi was killed in the car crash with princess diana. then at five, it's this week's difficult conversation , and i'm pleased to conversation, and i'm pleased to say debbie mcgee will live in the studio. she's a star of strictly come dancing and wife of late magician paul daniels and most recently has revealed that she was held hostage in war torn iran for three months. this is a harrowing story. you won't want to miss it. that's coming up in the next hour. aslef tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com me gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. so, right, let's

at. gb news. so, right, let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also former mp and simon former labour mp and simon danczuk . welcome, simon. danczuk. welcome, simon. >> good to be here. oh it's good to see you back, nana. >> oh, thank you. >> oh, thank you. >> we've missed you. it's really good fun. >> glad i'm back. thank you. yeah, it's good to meet you. >> good to you, >> it's good to meet you, simon. >> it's good to meet you, simon. >> first you and me. >> it's a first for you and me. >> it's a first for you and me. >> simon. >> simon. >> yeah, well, we've met before, and met once before, and we've met once before, but it's again. it's good to see you again. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> tell you that. >> i'll tell you that. >> i'll tell you that. >> i'll tell you that. well, simon. so do feel? simon. so how do you feel? is your first here? simon. so how do you feel? is youyeah, here? simon. so how do you feel? is youyeah, well, here? simon. so how do you feel? is youyeah, well, first? simon. so how do you feel? is youyeah, well, first time on the >> yeah, well, first time on the panel >> yeah, well, first time on the panel, for sure. yeah, panel, that's for sure. yeah, a little bit nervous, but we'll see how we go. little bit nervous, but we'll seeyouy we go. little bit nervous, but we'll seeyou told go. little bit nervous, but we'll seeyou told me you never watched >> you told me you never watched the so needs the show, so that needs to change. would come change. some would want to come back, well, lizzie, back, so let's. well, lizzie, you off, then. look, you start it off, then. look, i lifted a load of only lifted a load of things only because on my holiday, in because on my. on my holiday, in my to have a my home, i was able to have a good about things. good think about things. i thought, what the hell is going on? well, what the going on? >> and. mm- mm— >> and. and sadly, our government has backbone and

government has no backbone and things very different things could be very different if they rid of the european if they got rid of the european judges. if they got rid of the european jud so. if they got rid of the european jud so we could have some of >> so we could have some of these happen, these decisions actually happen, like like barge. like rwanda, like the barge. i mean, still floating there. >> you know, 20 k a day. >> you know, 20 k a day. >> the amount of money they've wasted. and mentioned that wasted. and you mentioned that awful. even say a name. awful. i can't even say a name. let have been let be and should have been dragged made to go in the dock. >> it's absolutely disgusting. that's a final insult to those poor families and victims . and poor families and victims. and it's just unbelievable . it's just unbelievable. >> and the reason why she was there for so long because of woke management, were worried to hurt her feelings is now heads should roll , hurt her feelings is now heads should roll, heads should roll. and because prosecuting because you know, sadly many babies were, you know, lives were taken. >> well, even if those heads roll, they won't go anywhere because they'll be waiting in legal system because nothing is getting i mean, it it's getting done. i mean, it it's unbelievable. mean. simon, you unbelievable. i mean. simon, you you at the forefront of you were at the forefront of politics. you saying? politics. what are you saying? because i know a lot of because i'm i know a lot of people at home are thinking what is going on? a lot of people have more common sense than

is going on? a lot of people hav politicians. common sense than is going on? a lot of people hav politicians. yeah non sense than absolutely. >> and i agree with a heck of a lot of what you said in your monologue there. but i do get a sense that a a sense that there's a bit of a fight back, that people are beginning to fight back, you know, a whole range know, on a whole range of different mentioned different issues. you mentioned lucy that you're lucy letby that and you're exactly has been exactly right, the nhs has been captured. as though the nhs captured. it's as though the nhs exists not to serve the patient, but to serve the employees. and that part of the problem. it that was part of the problem. it was more about protecting the employee, letby, it employee, lucy letby, than it was protecting the was about protecting the innocent babies , the patients. i innocent babies, the patients. i mean , you couldn't make it up. mean, you couldn't make it up. so there needs to be radical overhaul. but in answer to your question there nana politicians often get captured in the westminster bubble. i have been a politician. you get down there, you've got the westminster bubble, the whole media going on around it, media issue going on around it, the service all going on the civil service all going on around it. people have a different view to what's going on in people's mps constituencies and they need to get they need to spend more time in the constituencies and less time in the westminster bubble.

and we're going to talk about it later . in and we're going to talk about it later. in terms of sunak and things, one of the problems he's got is that a lot of his conservative mps are more like liberal democrat . it's and we liberal democrat. it's and we need tougher politicians . owens need tougher politicians. owens will make stronger decisions and provide stronger leadership. >> said they got you >> i said they haven't got you know, backbone and he know, he has no backbone and he hasn't the political will to hasn't got the political will to do anything. and now conservatives are more like laboun conservatives are more like labour. i think there's a cigarette paper between them both . and now people are both. and now people are rebelling. look what's happening with ulez. we've got the blade runners that are coming and taking down cameras . taking down the cameras. >> we don't condone, >> obviously, we don't condone, of not. >> obviously, we don't condone, of i'm not. >> obviously, we don't condone, of i'm against vandalism of any >> i'm against vandalism of any kind, the fact is they feel kind, but the fact is they feel there's no way, nothing else they can do because bring you back to your point on the european judges. >> look, i'm glad that we're out of eu. i don't to be in of the eu. i don't want to be in their. thought that we their. but i thought that we would be passing baton would now be passing the baton to capable and to our capable politicians. and what exposed is a bit what it has exposed is a bit like what's film? like that. what's that film? when back the curtain when they turn back the curtain and old who and there's an old man who doesn't know what he's doesn't really know what he's doing and running doing and he's running

everything. what's the one when she clicks the shoes? oh alice in yeah, they're in wonderland. yeah, they're talking we've talking about the curtain. we've turned back the curtain. and what got? we've got what have we got? we've got these don't to these people who don't appear to know they're no. and know what they're doing. no. and that. worry. how can europeans. >> how can braverman able >> how can braverman be able to enforce anything? you know, when we've got european judges stopping lefty lawyers that stopping and lefty lawyers that are excuses and no, look, are making excuses and no, look, they've been caught already . they've been caught already. they know how to cheat. >> i agree with you. and i have a admiration suella a lot of admiration for suella braverman. her best a lot of admiration for suella brydifficult. her best a lot of admiration for suella brydifficult circumstancesier best a lot of admiration for suella brydifficult circumstances .r best in difficult circumstances. you're exactly right. need to you're exactly right. we need to come the european court come out of the european court of rights. if it takes of human rights. and if it takes having referendum on it to having a referendum on it to make happen, that's what make it happen, then that's what we doing. perhaps we should be doing. and perhaps we should be doing. and perhaps we politicians we need to galvanise politicians or around politics to or people around politics to call the government to pull call on the government to pull us out of the european court of human rights. but don't went wrong it came up with the wrong was it came up with the bill rights, suggested. bill of rights, he suggested. >> we come out of the >> because if we come out of the european court human rights, european court of human rights, we alternative laws we need some alternative laws because european court has because the european court has actually us from some actually protected us from some of own stupidity in our own of our own stupidity in our own laws. so especially some of the gender and things like gender stuff and things like that. are going to do

that. so if we are going to do that, think can't a knee that, i think it can't be a knee jerk. let's get out. let's jerk. oh, let's get out. let's get let's have a referendum. it needs bill needs to be a comprehensive bill that addresses the that actually addresses the issues we will face once we issues that we will face once we exit. and i think that's why dominic raab on the money dominic raab was on the money with that. >> ew- em.- >> but nana, we can't keep wasting money. wasting taxpayers money. >> 140 million for rwanda. >>140 million for rwanda. a plane hasn't even taken off. you know , we've got 400 hotels know, we've got 400 hotels costing us, i think 6.5 million a day. well, i think like i said to you earlier, we should do a photo shoot. >> rwanda. i think it's lovely. i mean, look, simon, you've been to rwanda. your wife is from rwanda. absolutely. rwanda. yeah, absolutely. >> about >> talk to me about rwanda. >> talk to me about rwanda. >> it's great place. >> yeah, no, it's a great place. i've been there many times. i have a home there. my wife, who's just me in uk who's just joined me in the uk this week, rwandan, so this last week, is rwandan, so i've of time out i've spent a lot of time out there, safe there, exceptionally safe country. it's one of the safest countries the world countries in the world economically for africa, economically, strong, very economically, very strong, very progressive . i mean, there is no progressive. i mean, there is no reason why you would i fully support the policy. >> so why do we should the woke left out in force to say left came out in force to say this shouldn't happening ?

this shouldn't be happening? >> well, yes, some of those people verging on people are actually verging on being in terms of being racist in terms of how they describe rwanda , but they they describe rwanda, but they have idea of it's like. have no idea of what it's like. and 99% them haven't been and 99% of them haven't been there . that's the reality of it. there. that's the reality of it. it's very progressive country. it's a very progressive country. they they just have an agenda of fighting against suella braverman and the conservative government. that's what it's about. believe open about. and they believe open borders. reality. borders. that's the reality. >> really fleeing >> if you were really fleeing a war country, scared for war torn country, scared for your , wouldn't you want to go? >> you'd be pleased to go there. absolutely. >> well, listen, be happy to >> well, listen, i'd be happy to go quite doing go there. i quite fancy doing a photo shoot because that's nice. >> the three of us should go. it's all good. absolutely. yes yeah. >> no. yeah, absolutely. >> no. yeah, absolutely. >> magazine that. >> a glossy magazine to that. >> a glossy magazine to that. >> you can speak to the >> well, you can speak to the people at. okay, i will, of course well, just course i will. well, if you just tuned we'll you. we'll tuned in, we'll show you. we'll show a good time in rwanda. show you a good time in rwanda. we'll it's like. we'll show you what it's like. if just joined us those 18 if you just joined us those 18 minutes 4:00. is news minutes after 4:00. this is news on online, and on digital on tv online, and on digital radio. still later on in radio. still to come later on in the week's difficult the show, this week's difficult conversation former conversation with former strictly wife late strictly star and wife of late magician joins me magician paul daniels joins me to harrowing story to discuss her harrowing story of being held hostage in iran. i

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defence brief since ben wallace stepped down after four years in the role . whilst amber de the role. whilst amber de botton, who was hired by the prime minister as his director of communications, has quit after less than a year in the job and it comes ahead of a reshuffle on the other side as labour sir keir starmer labour leader sir keir starmer prepares demonstrate his prepares to demonstrate his ruthlessness . oh yes, with ruthlessness. oh yes, with a purge of problematic mps , does purge of problematic mps, does that mean angela rayner so for the next four, so for the great british debate this i'm asking do you believe that rishi sunak can actually win the next general election to discuss this, i'm joined by ann widdecombe, former conservative minister peter spencer, former sky political correspondent paul embry , trade unionist and embry, trade unionist and broadcaster , and also henry broadcaster, and also henry bolton, international security and border control expert. so i'm going to start with you, anne. do you feel that rishi sunak can actually win this next general election? well when a general election? well when a general election? well when a general election is a year away, you can never forecast with too much confidence, which way it's

going to go. >> after all the conservatives were supposed to be losing the 1992 election right up until the morning when they won it. so it is quite possible to make a forecast based on today's situation, which then doesn't eventuate, but based on today, if there were a general election tomorrow, can he win or why on earth should he? he hasn't delivered on any promises. but having said that, his opponent changes his mind every five minutes. he must have the cleanest mind in politics because he changes it. so often. and every five minutes. he's been one policy to another. policy you took a long time to get that man. and you know, the situation is simply that neither party, i would say, holds confidence . and i would ask the confidence. and i would ask the british people one simple question. have you had enough? and if the answer is yes, then they should look beyond the main parties. >> yeah, well , perhaps they >> yeah, well, perhaps they will. peter spencer , what do you will. peter spencer, what do you think? >> well, i mean, i take anne's

point entirely , which is that point entirely, which is that we're a year away from the election, or perhaps more so . election, or perhaps more so. it's impossible to predict with any certainty . and i to any certainty. and i have to say, got quite a lot of say, i've got quite a lot of respect for rishi sunak apart from anything else. unlike his predecessors, he is neither a bit of a liar or a bit loopy. and so and he has without question steadied the ship. >> but it's a legacy we've got a legacy he's inherited of crumbling services, notably health and education. >> and also a cost of living crisis , which is a problem . and crisis, which is a problem. and i don't see how he can fix that in time, although he personally is pretty chipper, i think in a minority of one. and i come back to something jim callaghan said many years ago and he said , you many years ago and he said, you come to a point in the political cycle if you go past that, nothing you can say or do will make any difference. >> well, and i just noticed you raising your hands in there, though. and why were you raising your hands? what was it that he said that made you you know,

that man because that rishi is the man because he's not a bit of a liar. >> and, you know, because of what he's not what he is. clearly he can be spelled out very simply by anybody a very simply by anybody with a mildest grasp of english. ineffective. he is totally ineffective . he talks every day ineffective. he talks every day about solving the small boats problem and every day more boats come . i mean, he is utterly come. i mean, he is utterly ineffective . the idea that ineffective. the idea that because he's not a liar, we can all say, oh , yippee, this is the all say, oh, yippee, this is the man. you know, how low can our standards fall? >> well , let's standards fall? >> well, let's find out what paul embery has to say about that. paul well, i think the tories have probably blown it, but i think the thing is labour and i say this as a labour man, labour are not particularly inspiring people. >> this doesn't strike me as a sort of 1997 moment where labour was inspiring people up and down the country. so i think what we may see is something like we saw in the australian election last

year where labour won but won not because it inspired anybody, but it was seen as the least worst of two bad options in many respects and we might see a labour majority, a small labour majority. we might even see a hung parliament. i think that's a very likely outcome. i think the big talking point is how the tories have squandered the windfall that reaped in the windfall that they reaped in the 2019 general election when they secured the votes of millions of working class former labour voters as in brexit voting in red wall areas. people who do listen to the messaging of the tory party, they said we'll get brexit done. we'll level up your your area, we'll we'll give you jobs and sustainable industries and we'll get a grip on immigration and all of that sort of thing. and they just haven't done it. they just have not delivered on their promise and they didn't lean into those voters in the way that they should have done. and when you then couple that with the cost of people's real of living crisis, people's real wages on you wages falling year on year, you can understand why people think,

well, once, didn't well, i tried it once, it didn't work why i as a as a work. why should i as a as a voter in this red wall, brexit voting seat, vote for the tories again ? again? >> well, let's find out what henry has to say about that. henry, what's your view on this? what's your take? henry, what's your view on this? wh well,)ur take? henry, what's your view on this? wh well, firstake? henry, what's your view on this? wh well, first thing, nana >> well, first thing, nana elections won can be in, but elections won can be in, but elections can also be lost . elections can also be lost. >> and you know, this election , >> and you know, this election, this next election on the present form is for labour to lose. really, if labour sorts itself out , gives clear itself out, gives clear direction, comes out with clear policies and demonstrates some leadership , then it's for them leadership, then it's for them to win it . i leadership, then it's for them to win it. i really don't believe, though, that rishi sunak has the traits necessary. >> he doesn't have the courage. >> he doesn't have the courage. >> he doesn't have the vision, he doesn't have the willpower, the determination or the character actually pull out character to actually pull out of the hat what needs to be pulled out of the hat. >> and it's quite just henry. >> and it's quite just henry. >> starmer none of >> keir starmer has none of those he's none of those either. he's got none of those either. he's got none of those agree. why he those either. i agree. why he hasn't them either. hasn't got them either. >> agree entirely. that's why >> i agree entirely. that's why it's labour to lose and as

it's for labour to lose and as an as an said rishi sunak the question is can rishi sunak win the next general election and the next general election and the answer is potentially yes. but i don't believe for a second, ed, that he's actually got the will and the determination to do what's required to win it. determination to do what's required to win it . and to do required to win it. and to do that, he has to leave the he has to lead the conservative party to lead the conservative party to redefine or to define what it means by conservatism . he needs means by conservatism. he needs to reintroduce cultural conservatism, and he needs to deliver on the five promises that would deliver that he said he would deliver on, and he's delivered on none of them. so all in all, he is going to lose this, i'm quite certain, something else certain, unless something else happens. be because happens. but it won't be because labour that's my point . okay. >> labour won't . >> labour won't. >> labour won't. >> okay, so. so let's . sorry. >> okay, so. so let's. sorry. stop. henry. so so i'm going to start with you then, henry. so and it's a yes or no. not all the other bits in between. so can rishi sunak win this next general election? no ? general election? yes or no? >> he can, but he won't. >> no, no. yes. so no . so is >> no, no, no. yes. so no. so is it

>> no, no, no. yes. so no. so is n-or— >> no, no, no. yes. so no. so is it or no ? it yes or no? >> it's no , it's no. >> it's no, it's no. >> paul henry. yes or no ? >> paul henry. yes or no? >> paul henry. yes or no? >> probably no . no, no. >> probably no. no, no. >> probably no. no, no. >> peter spencer , the character >> peter spencer, the character in dad's army were doomed . in dad's army were doomed. that's it? no. and ann widdecombe . widdecombe. >> i never say yes or no when bullied to do so . bullied to do so. >> all right. so. >> all right. so. >> so that's now come on. yes or no? do you think you can. >> i'm not going to do it because there is no yes or no , because there is no yes or no, because, as i said, we're a year away. okay. >> got a year. >> we've got a year. well, that's fair enough. we've got a year away. thank you so much. and widdecombe, former conservative minister peter spencen spencer, former sky political correspondent, paul mbappe, trade broadcaster, correspondent, paul mbappe, trade boulton broadcaster, correspondent, paul mbappe, trade boulton ,roadcaster, correspondent, paul mbappe, trade boulton , international and henry boulton, international security and border control expert at wow. well, what do you think? in touch, think? get in touch, vaiews@gbnews.uk . com you're vaiews@gbnews.uk. com you're with me. i'm nana akua this is gb news. we are the people's channel. after the we'll channel. after the break, we'll continue with great british continue with the great british debate and i'm debate this hour. and i'm asking, do you believe rishi sunak win the general sunak can win the next general election you'll the election? you'll hear the thoughts broadcast thoughts of my panel broadcast from columnist cundy and

from columnist lizzie cundy and also simon also former labour mp simon danczuk. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with aaron . aaron armstrong. >> it's 433. >> it's 433. >> good afternoon to you . i'm >> good afternoon to you. i'm anne armstrong here in the gb newsroom. ministers are facing calls for transfer agency over the scale of aerated concrete in pubuc the scale of aerated concrete in public buildings with the condition of some, including hospitals described as jaw hospitals being described as jaw dropping. right in the times, the chair of the commons public accounts committee, dame meg hillier, is warning the problem in schools is just the tip of the iceberg. labour's demanding an while the an urgent audit while the liberal democrats labelled an urgent audit while the liia ral democrats labelled an urgent audit while the liia nationalycrats labelled an urgent audit while the liia national emergencylabelled an urgent audit while the liia national emergency whiched it a national emergency which warrants an immediate cobra meeting , there's been a huge meeting, there's been a huge surge in small boats crossing the channel. gb news can reveal around 600 migrants made it to the uk waters in 12 small boats. today we've of smuggling gangs took advantage of a brief improvement in the weather and a high tide . the number of high tide. the number of migrants intercepted so far this year stands at more than

year now stands at more than 20,000. rail passengers are struggling with delays and cancellations today as train drivers stage another walkout over pay and conditions. up to 20,000 rmt union members at 40 train operators are on strike, forcing service to start later and finish earlier. there'll be and finish earlier. there'll be a knock on effect tomorrow as well. members of the train drivers union aslef who were on the picket lines yesterday , they the picket lines yesterday, they are refusing to work are today refusing to work overtime and the home secretary is being told not to use policing as a political football. the police federation of and wales says the of england and wales says the government constantly government is constantly moving the goalposts , asking officers the goalposts, asking officers to more involved than wanting to be more involved than wanting them like robots . it's them to act like robots. it's after suella braverman commissioned a review into activism impartial in the activism and impartial in the force. she says it can damage pubuc force. she says it can damage public confidence and officers should focus on tackling crime . should focus on tackling crime. more on all of our stories on our website at gbnews.com. we'll have a full bulletin at the top of the next hour. but now it's back to nana .

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debate this hour, i'm asking do you believe rishi sunak can win the next general election? well, let's panel make of let's see what my panel make of that. broadcaster let's see what my panel make of that columnist broadcaster let's see what my panel make of that columnist lizzie roadcaster let's see what my panel make of that columnist lizzie cundy;ter let's see what my panel make of that columnist lizzie cundy and and columnist lizzie cundy and also simon also former labour mp simon danczuk . all right, simon, i'm danczuk. all right, simon, i'm going start you. as as going to start with you. as as you've experience of of you've experience of all of that. >> e- e think the short >> yeah, i think the short answer yes. i it can answer is yes. i think it can still win it by a whisper. i think pretty desperate think it's pretty desperate situation think situation for him. but i think he win it and there's he can still win it and there's a number of reasons for that. there's boundary changes taking place, which actually help the conservatives. so what you conservatives. so what do you mean yeah, yeah . the mean by that? yeah, yeah. so the boundanes mean by that? yeah, yeah. so the boundaries , each constituency boundaries, each constituency has to have so many thousand electors within it and they've redrawn the boundaries and that gives the conservatives a slight advantage in terms of a number of seats . well, it was of seats. well, it was a decision to by the government to equalise the seats . some decision to by the government to equalise the seats. some had 50,000 some had 80,000 50,000 electors, some had 80,000 electors. so it was the right decision to make to make them closer a central number. so closer to a central number. so it's a sensible thing to do , but it's a sensible thing to do, but that does help slightly. the conservatives. so there's issues like place . and the

like that taking place. and the other issue, big issue is that labour really faced that labour haven't really faced that much yet and if we take much scrutiny yet and if we take immigration as an example , they immigration as an example, they have a five point plan and it is andifs have a five point plan and it is and it's had scrutiny . so for and it's had no scrutiny. so for example, one of the five points is let's renegotiate with france. well, that's not going to anything. one the to achieve anything. one of the other significant the other significant points in the five immigration plan is five point immigration plan is to more money in foreign to give more money in foreign aid countries. now aid to developing countries. now i can't see that being electorally popular at all. so as we get closer to the election , they'll face lots more scrutiny . but sunak has to get scrutiny. but sunak has to get a more disciplined team together and he has to really go for this election. i mean, it will be one heck of a fight, no doubt about it. it'll be one of the most interesting general elections to watch of all time. >> what do you think, >> well, what do you think, lizzie? >> well, for me , rishi, you >> well, for me, rishi, you know, fan. felt you know, i'm no fan. i felt you parachuted number 10. he's parachuted into number 10. he's backstabbed boris , and backstabbed his mate, boris, and i don't think he's very light on a parachute. >> i mean, it probably would go up. >> and he is like this forensic accountant, isn't he? and his

little tight prada suits. and he's sort of man money he's sort of man about money rather than the people. he's rather than the people. and he's saying, stay at school, do maths till you're 18. so we're all going to be like these data robots. well, then aren't aren't enough. but rishi, enough. no, but rishi. rishi, for have the for me just doesn't have the backbone and he's left people in the political wilderness because backbone and he's left people in the p maybe didn't say how >> well, maybe he didn't say how many. said, the many. so he just said, stop the boats . boats. >> i mean, come on, stop the boats . we've got. i mean, paying boats. we've got. i mean, paying 6.5 million a day in hotels . 6.5 million a day in hotels. >> can i just i just want to

bnng >> can i just i just want to bring in, though. but but i mean, okay, i hear all that. but there that come there are things that have come in the way to deliberately, as it would appear , to scupper it would appear, to scupper some of so example, it would appear, to scupper some of waiting so example, it would appear, to scupper some of waiting lists example, it would appear, to scupper some of waiting lists exa|gota, it would appear, to scupper some of waiting lists exa|got the the waiting lists you've got the strikes which are all over the place. the nhs strikes, however, turns they've been turns out that they've been timed, some of them, to fit in with the conservative party conference, a bit like the rail strikes as well, and all these people demanding money. so for example, the of the union, example, the head of the union, which one that oversees which is the one that oversees all the servants, they all the civil servants, they they head they're specifically said that we're going to strike and try and get rid of the government. so he's got a civil service that in a large part of them are actually deliberately trying to make his life hell. >> but he's got to be stronger. he's not a strong leader. >> but i do think there are parallels with 1992 and john major you two will be too major and you two will be too young to remember exactly what went on. >> well, thank for that, simon. >> you can come again. >> you can come again. >> you can come again. >> you freezing. >> you freezing. >> but but he was very square and boring, wasn't he? but he

managed to the public decided they take a safer bet on john major and re—elect him as prime minister rather than take a gamble on neil kinnock. and i make the point that starmer keir starmer is no tony blair. he's nearer to kinnock than he is to blair. >> no, and he hasn't got any of the charisma. actually, he's got none of the charisma of tony blair. not that i like tony blair. not that i like tony blair took us to war on a lie, but remember neil kinnock, you remember he got to cocky for his own boots like he relic. you remember that ? and i, you know, remember that? and i, you know, he got too cocky and look what happened. possibly as happened. i think possibly as what saw in uxbridge , you what we saw in uxbridge, you know, think if , what we saw in uxbridge, you know, think if, you what we saw in uxbridge, you know, think if , you know, you know, i think if, you know, you never know what could happen . never know what could happen. >> it's all to play for. >> it's all to play for. >> yeah, there's all to play for. i think if he for. and rishi, i think if he aboush for. and rishi, i think if he abolish ulez start to abolish the ulez start to getting bit tougher said he getting a bit tougher he said he can't he claimed that can't he he claimed that he can't he he claimed that he can't know i don't think can't but you know i don't think they to actually i don't they want to actually i don't think the will is there. >> think could if they >> i think they could if they really to. but then there >> i think they could if they really to to. but then there >> i think they could if they really to toarmt then there >> i think they could if they really to to arm of1en there >> i think they could if they really to to arm of lawyers; seems to be an arm of lawyers who suddenly get involved. i don't understand how the

government can be scuppered by a load lawyers load of lawyers getting involved. if it were me, i would change politician change the law as a politician to make can't happen. to make sure that can't happen. and about leadership. and that's about leadership. >> more >> just provide some more political leadership show political leadership and show some that's what some strength. that's what people want to see. >> labour command a 16 point lead and i'm just worrying for us to have starmer as our leader who couldn't say what a woman was for so long. it was embarrassing and he flip flops all over the place. >> and also he's in hock with the unions as well. and look at the unions as well. and look at the mess there. look at the control and power have. if control and power they have. if they to go up against they choose to go up against you, they've done you, which is what they've done and upon it, an and you touched upon it, an interesting of analysis interesting point of analysis will he does in the will be what he does in the reshuffle shadow cabinet reshuffle is shadow cabinet reshuffle. reshuffle is shadow cabinet resiwhat. reshuffle is shadow cabinet resiwhat will starmer do to his >> what will starmer do to his top he get rid of top team? will he get rid of angela suspect not, angela rayner? i suspect not, because keeps the left his because it keeps the left in his party quiet. it keeps the trade unions happy. but. but she's an achilles heel for labour. she's not. she doesn't help labour in any way. david lammy is doing nothing , any way. david lammy is doing nothing, doing nothing as shadow foreign. that's another i know exactly . but will he?

exactly. but will he? >> and he said the carnival was an excellent celebration of sleaze. >> but will he have the will he have the strength to change these people? that's the question. >> let's see. but this is nothing without you and your views. welcome on our views. let's welcome on our great british voice their opportunity to be on the show and they think and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. looking forward about the topics we're disheading looking forward about the topics we're disheading overlooking forward about the topics we're disheading overloobristolrward about the topics we're disheading overloo bristol tonrd to heading over to bristol to having chat voice lee having a chat with gb voice lee harris. regular. he's harris. he's a regular. he's always something say . lee always got something to say. lee good to see you. have you missed me ? me? >> have you back? >> have you back? >> did you miss me ? >> did you miss me? >> did you miss me? >> of course i did. >> of course i did. >> couldn't live without you, nana. >> you're a bit slow on the response, but i'll take it nonetheless. so what do you think then? rishi sunak has he. is there a chance that he could win a year is a very long time in politics, but based on the current situation , the answer is current situation, the answer is sadly, almost certainly no. >> um. you know, he needs to make huge headline grabbing, radical changes to have any chance at all. and lizzie is right. he doesn't have the backbone. right. he doesn't have the backbone . he's just as robotic backbone. he's just as robotic

in effective and uninspiring as keir starmer. and the polls would be. you know, sorry. the evidence speaks for itself. you know, he is clearly not cutting through and labour are very likely to win and that's thoroughly depressing because people aren't going be people aren't going to be rushing for keir rushing out to vote for keir starmer . rushing out to vote for keir starmer. labour are going to win because conservative voters are just going at home. and just going to stay at home. and as already said , the as you've already said, the polls been diabolical. they polls have been diabolical. they give labour a clear 20 point lead the conservative lives lead over the conservative lives and this hasn't changed much since rishi over. you know, since rishi took over. you know, in my opinion, it was a monument . i'll take some grief for this, i'm sure, it i'm sure, but it was a monumental mistake to get rid of boris. but here we are . you boris. but here we are. you know, we tried to warn them, but they now the they didn't listen. but now the tory wets have taken over nana and after shoehorning their man into it's been high into the job and it's been high taxes , low growth and managed taxes, low growth and managed decline ever since . nadine decline ever since. nadine dorries explosive resignation letter this week attacking rishi was utterly spot on. it was, i agree with that too. what? >> she's right. she's right. and

it wasn't fair either. she's been an mp for what some she served in the government for some 20 years. she should be a baroness. i think it's totally out that they didn't out of order that they didn't give her position. i give her her her position. i think that's wrong. thank think that's wrong. but thank you always you very much. lee always a pleasure. you much. pleasure. thank you so much. that harris. he's our that is lee harris. he's our great british voice. stay tuned, because i speak because still to come, i speak of fantastic of our fantastic radio, television performer of our fantastic radio, televisi mcgee performer of our fantastic radio, televisi mcgee . performer of our fantastic radio, televisi mcgee . she'serformer of our fantastic radio, televisi mcgee . she's going|er of our fantastic radio, televisi mcgee . she's going to be debbie mcgee. she's going to be talking about loss of her talking about the loss of her husband, magician paul daniels, and story about and her harrowing story about being iran. being held as a hostage in iran. thatis being held as a hostage in iran. that is the in difficult that is on the way in difficult conversation. let's conversation. but first, let's get weather . get some weather. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office . despite some cloud met office. despite some cloud around this morning, many of us have seen some sunny intervals into this afternoon and it will be a fairly fine end to the day as well. the cloud tending to melt away into this evening, providing those clear intervals, though the mist and fog will be

returning extensive for particularly extensive for central of england central eastern areas of england . can't out some . but we can't rule out some patches elsewhere we'll patches elsewhere as well. we'll be for the be turning windier for the northern scotland though, with gales coastline, some gales around coastline, some heavy outbursts rain well heavy outbursts of rain as well and nights and noticeably warmer nights here to previously. but here compared to previously. but elsewhere, staying up around 12, 13 c well . once that early 13 c as well. once that early mist and fog does clear its way off, parts of england , wales and off, parts of england, wales and northern ireland should be a relatively fine day. some sunny spells developing the spells developing into the afternoon, rain will be afternoon, but the rain will be persisting the far north, persisting across the far north, pushing the highlands. pushing into the highlands. but come afternoon it will turn come the afternoon it will turn generally lighter and patchy. but with those gusty winds but still with those gusty winds around, will around, that will hold temperatures in the temperatures back in the northwest, but elsewhere, pleasantly warm, 26 c in the south—east, even 23 c for parts of aberdeen . as high pressure of aberdeen. as high pressure stays with us into the new working week, we've still got this lingering front in the far north. and notice how the isobars squeezing isobars are also squeezing together more across the together a bit more across the west so breezy west country. so quite breezy around here, around coastal lines here, but for it will be for many of us it will be a pleasantly warm summers day and a sunshine an a good amount of sunshine an we'll hold to a lot of that

we'll hold on to a lot of that sunshine into the forth coming week as and temperatures week as well. and temperatures will continuing to slide will also be continuing to slide up the high 20s possible in places towards wednesday, perhaps . even 30 c. the perhaps. even 30 c. the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> well, stay tuned because on the way my difficult conversation with the fabulous debbie mcgee . up next, it's debbie mcgee. up next, it's royal roundup time with former royal butler grant harrold

good afternoon. welcome on board. it'sjust good afternoon. welcome on board. it's just coming good afternoon. welcome on board. it'sjust coming up good afternoon. welcome on board. it's just coming up to 55 minutes after 4:00. this is news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and there's always something going on in the royal household. and this week has different. the has been no different. the egyptian born businessman who owned the department store harrods and fulham fc. mohamed al—fayed, has died at the age of 94. now his death comes almost 26 years after the tragic car crash that killed his son, dodi and princess diana in paris. crash that killed his son, dodi and princess diana in paris . and and princess diana in paris. and every saturday. i love to give you a rundown. so who better to do so then a former royal butler , grant harrold. he joins me now. grant oh, goodness. you look like you're old. this looks nice. you're on a cruise somewhere, aren't you ? somewhere, aren't you? >> i am . >> i am. >> i am. >> but it's only scotland and it's too not far away. >> oh, that looks lovely ,

>> oh, that looks lovely, scotland. oh, that looks beautiful . beautiful. well, beautiful. beautiful. well, anyway, let's get stuck in then. let's talk about it. because, of course, mohamed al—fayed. now he's died. talk to me a little bit about that . bit about that. >> he has. and it's interesting because i was speaking to somebody about it when the news broke last night. >> and the person in question actually didn't know who he was i >> -- >> in fact, ema-m >> in fact, they eventually said, is that one of the characters from the crown? >> and i thought, isn't it scary how something was such a big part our time? part of our time? >> time many years >> well, my time many years later has been almost kind of forgotten, if i can say that, which is quite sad. but it shows you how things on the world you how things move on the world moves on. but obviously he was a very poignant finger figure . he very poignant finger figure. he was somebody obviously owned harrods. >> um , a friend of the royal >> um, a friend of the royal family at one point as well. >> and of course, his son famously was dating princess diana at one point. obviously, at the point of the sadly, of their deaths . their deaths. >> oh, that's so sad as well.

were you working with the royal family at the time when diana had died ? had died? >> oh, no, no, no . i was only >> oh, no, no, no. i was only a few— >> oh, no, no, no. i was only a few years later at the time, it seemed a long time, but it was only about 5 or 6 years later when i actually joined. but as i've always said to people, she was forgotten. you know, was never forgotten. you know, there's this myth that she there's this this myth that she was of forgotten and not was kind of forgotten and not part of it any longer, where she was very much part of it. you know, she was the mother of princes william and harry, the former wife, obviously, of the of the then prince of wales. and there with breaking there was always with breaking confidentiality, got into detail. there was of course, there was signs and things to show that she was of that show that she was part of that family . family. >> now, what about this rumour that hearing king that we're hearing that king charles disappointed that charles was disappointed that harry a girl ? harry wasn't a girl? >> i think that one of these weird rumours , these rumours weird rumours, these rumours keep coming up, don't they? nana i was never aware of anything like that. i mean, obviously i was there many years later after they both being born. but as

i've said to you, nana the relationship between the king and boysis relationship between the king and boys is a very close and his boys is a very close relationship. he dotes on him, he adores him. and despite everything that's happened, i still believe that that love continues . i really do. because continues. i really do. because i. i saw how close they were. and i don't think that anything could destroy that. i think could ever destroy that. i think it obviously it's been damaged relationship . over the last relationship. over the last couple of years, but i don't think it's unfixable . think it's unfixable. >> it's funny because on my autocue somebody has written harry. king charles was disappointed. harry girl disappointed. harry was a girl hahahahaha, which is not although these days people want to identify as all sorts of things. now let's move on though, because i actually watched the harry invictus documentary . i watched the harry invictus documentary. i don't watched the harry invictus documentary . i don't know documentary. i don't know whether you've seen it, but what's your take on all of that? is that the right way? is that what harry should be doing? >> all read >> no, no. all i've read about it it's done as well as i it is it's not done as well as i think they hoped it would do. and this this and i think this is this just goes to show a lot of what they're is can i say flop they're doing is can i say flop and ifs

they're doing is can i say flop and it's just i and i think it's just i understand . and i said to you, i understand. and i said to you, i understand. and i said to you, i understand that walked understand that they've walked away family. away from the royal family. they want lifestyle. want the celebrity lifestyle. they into they want to move into television aiden. but think television aiden. but i think the things focussed are the things are focussed on are just working. there either just not working. there either flopping they're having bad flopping or they're having bad crashes. i think need crashes. and i think they need to the direction of what to rethink the direction of what they're doing. i would still like that one day they like to think that one day they would return to normal royal dufies would return to normal royal duties and on with what they duties and got on with what they were doing. but were supposed to be doing. but as agree , i think that as you would agree, i think that that's long gone now and they've obviously try to up obviously got to try to come up with career that obviously got to try to come up with careerthat sensible obviously got to try to come up with career that sensible . with a career that is sensible. >> well, it's ironic because at the beginning of the documentary , was asked a very simple , he was asked a very simple question do you question about, so what do you do, he sort of do, harry? and he sort of mumbled, and then he came up with and a few with husband and dad and a few other bits. he couldn't actually think of a job think of a properjob description what the problem description of what the problem this is the problem when you're a member the royal family, a member of the royal family, you a member you have a job, you're a member of family working royal. >> they have created jobs. there's no question of that. when what do you do? when you leave, what do you do? and why call them and this is why i call them celebrity royals, because that's what well what they've become. well listen, very

listen, grant, i'm a very envious of this cruise that you're on. >> how many days is it ? >> how many days is it? >> how many days is it? >> well, i must say to secret nana, it's princess cruises, which has actually got a godmother is in the princess of wales . and i've actually been on wales. and i've actually been on the same cruise about seven times. this is my seventh time around the uk, so i'm becoming an expert on all things british, not just an etiquette, but now on the on the actual cultural side of things. as well. >> well, i'm jealous , grant. it >> well, i'm jealous, grant. it looks fabulous this and grant, thank you so much for joining me. grant harrold. he's me. that is grant harrold. he's the former royal butler. well, he's just in. welcome on he's just tuned in. welcome on board today. lots of you been getting in touch with your views. says, the views. richard says, yes, the conservatives, because i was asking rishi asking whether you thought rishi sunak this sunak can actually turn this round. says, yes, round. and richard says, yes, the would the conservatives can, but would probably do better with a better leader . probably do better with a better leader. brian says sunak leader. brian says rishi sunak will not be able win an will not be able to win an election. i think he couldn't win an egg and spoon race and i'm conservative and i'm a lifelong conservative and he says rishi can win. it's all about timing and he's taking his time, as he should. well, let's about timing and he's taking his timetunede should. well, let's about timing and he's taking his timetuned .should. well, let's about timing and he's taking his timetuned . this.d. well, let's about timing and he's taking his timetuned . this is well, let's about timing and he's taking his

timetuned . this is we news s about timing and he's taking his timetuned . this is we news on stay tuned. this is gb news on tv online, and digital radio. tv online, and on digital radio. more in the next hour . more to come in the next hour. it's 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. and for the next houn nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting headlines right hitting the headlines right now on way come dancing on the way strictly come dancing star and wife, late magician paul daniels, mcgee will paul daniels, debbie mcgee will be joining me now. she's recently revealed that she was held hostage in war torn iran for three months. i'm looking forward hearing story. forward to hearing her story. then debate then the great british debate this and asking , is this hour. and i'm asking, is it time bring back national time to bring back national service? but first, let's get your latest news with aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> good evening . it is armstrong. >> good evening. it is a minute past five. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the

condition of some public buildings, including hospital, is being described as jaw dropping as concerns grow over their risk of collapse. the chair the commons public chair of the commons public accounts committee is warning the issue of aerated concrete in schools is just the tip of the iceberg. writing in the times dame meg hillier says eyewatering sums of money are being spent on mitigating the risks. labour is demanding an urgent audit, while the liberal democrats have labelled a democrats have labelled it a national emergency which warrants cobra warrants an immediate cobra meeting . there's been a surge in meeting. there's been a surge in small boats crossing the channel today. gb news can reveal around 600 asylum seekers made it to uk waters. people smuggling gangs took advantage of a brief improvement in the weather and a high tide. the number of migrants intercepted so far this year now stands at more than 20,000. the rmt union says it's hopeful fresh talks next week can bring an end to their long running dispute over pay and conditions . up to 20,000 members conditions. up to 20,000 members at 14 operators have walked out

this weekend, causing severe disruption , with 50% of railways disruption, with 50% of railways closed across the country . closed across the country. meanwhile, members of the train drivers union aslef, who are on picket lines yesterday are refusing to work overtime today. general secretary of the rmt mick lynch told gb news that a fresh proposal will be the key if they are to resolve the dispute . dispute. >> but we go into those talks with an attitude and a disposition to try and get an agreement . but there are some agreement. but there are some serious issues as most people know now. we don't want to be on strike. we'd rather much, much rather be earning a living and running the service for the people who need to use it. so hopefully if we can get a different mind mindset next week, we can get some progress . week, we can get some progress. >> the home secretary is being told not to use policing as a political football. the police federation of england and wales says the government is constant , moving the goalposts, asking officers to be more involved then wanting them to act like robots . it's after suella robots. it's after suella braverman commissioned a review

into activism and impartiality into activism and impartiality in the force . she says it can in the force. she says it can damage public confidence and officers should focus on tackling crime in the united states . bodycam footage has been states. bodycam footage has been released of a pregnant black woman being shot by police in ohio, a warning we are about to show you the video that includes the moments before and after her death to 31 year old takaya young refused to leave her car after being accused of stealing and was seen moving her vehicle towards one of the officers. a single shot through the windscreen killed the mother of two unborn daughter. a two and her unborn daughter. a family lawyer says her death was avoidable and is demanding the officers held accountable. officers are held accountable. both have placed on both have been placed on administrative while an administrative leave while an investigation takes place . the investigation takes place. the bncks investigation takes place. the bricks have been salvaged from a pub at the centre of an arson investigation in himley in the west midlands. investigation in himley in the west midlands . organisers of the west midlands. organisers of the save the cricket house, which was destroyed by fire last month, held a ceremony as they stored the bricks in locked

containers. they hope they can be used to rebuild the pub. two men are being held on conditional bail after being arrested on suspicion of arson with intent to endanger life. a conservative mp for dudley north marco longhi, says the pub represents the area's industrial heritage . heritage. >> this is a coal mining area , >> this is a coal mining area, limestone mining area metal smelting. this is the metal bashing industry that all came together a couple of hundred years ago to power the industrial revolution of the country. that's what's being torn away from us in the most brutal of ways . that's what we brutal of ways. that's what we need to put back and that's why they need to be far greater protections for places such as this in dudley , the black this in dudley, the black country and the rest of the country and the rest of the country . country. >> india has launched its first space based solar probe to study the sun . the aditya l1 aims to the sun. the aditya l1 aims to study solar winds , which can study solar winds, which can cause disturbances on earth. it comes days after india became the first country to land a

spacecraft on the unexplored south pole of the moon . and the south pole of the moon. and the king and the queen are attending the braemar gathering highland games in aberdeenshire . the games in aberdeenshire. the eventis games in aberdeenshire. the event is being held a short distance from the royal's summer retreat at the balmoral estate. charles is wearing a kilt in the newly created king charles. the third tartan, which was created to mark the coronation. the princess royal and her husband, vice admiral sir tim laurence, are also at the event . this vice admiral sir tim laurence, are also at the event. this is gb news live across the uk. i'll be back with more at about half past five. now it's over to nana i >> -- >> good afternoon. welcome aboard. this is gb news on tv onune aboard. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of

course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing, and at times will disagree. but no times we will disagree. but no one cancelled . and so one will be cancelled. and so joining today is broadcast joining me today is broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy, also a former mp, simon also a former labour mp, simon danczuk . still to come, my danczuk. still to come, my difficult conversation today. it's with tv and radio and stage legend debbie mcgee. now i'll be to talking debbie about life as a performer and being open to love again after losing her soul mate, the late magician paul daniels. plus, the harrowing tale of being left being held hostage in iran. then the great british debate this hour i'm asking is it time to bring back national service? tory mp penny morton has suggested creating a brand new national service that automatically signs up every 16 year old in the uk. automatically signs up every 16 year old in the uk . as ever, year old in the uk. as ever, your thoughts? email gb views gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. so it's just coming up to seven minutes after 5:00 and it's now time for this week's difficult conversation. now

she's best known as the fabulous assistant of late magician paul daniels. debbie was born in surrey to parents that ran a corner shop, but it was clear from an early age that she was made for the stage. and after graduating from the royal ballet school, debbie toured europe as a dancer with acts including chris de burgh and first performed on stage with paul in 1979, who she'd later be married to for almost 30 years now. debbie became one of the first female magicians to join the magic circle, and she's appeared on celebrity masterchef. come dine with me and of course, strictly come dancing, that incredible performance, that argentine tango is just one i could not forget. i rewound it, i rewound it. i watched it again and again. not to mention, of course, performing in pantomimes and her radio and presenting her own radio show and there's nothing that debbie her magic hand debbie can't turn her magic hand to. and after death of her to. and after the death of her beloved daniels, beloved husband, paul daniels, who from a brain tumour at who died from a brain tumour at the age of 77, debbie said that she hugged by strangers in she was hugged by strangers in the streets. so she open to

the streets. so is she open to love again? let's ask her. she's right here. she me now. right here. she joins me now. debbie nana , first of all, debbie nana, first of all, before we talk about me or whether i'm open to love again, going to your national service. >> yes. debate. >> yes. debate. >> i'm for all that, but not for them learning to shoot guns and kill people . kill people. >> yeah, i think at 16, it would be great if they had a year of, you know, sports learning first aid. so that if they meet somebody in the street that needs help and all sorts of and learn things, business studies and things that we all need in life. >> life skills. >> life skills. >> yeah, life skills. that's the word life skills . so anyway, word life skills. so anyway, enough about that. >> i agree . you know. well, >> i agree. you know. well, we'll talk about that later. debbie you for the debbie kept you on for the debate. but let's talk debate. yeah, but let's talk about debbie, because you about you, debbie, because you talk about sort of talk to you about your sort of story want to story because people want to know about you. you know , know more about you. you know, you're born in london. you're somebody who's lived . talk to me somebody who's lived. talk to me about the sort of what your parents were like and what life was like for growing was like for you growing up. i just think been the

just think i've been the luckiest person ever because i came a very working class background. >> was irish and very >> my dad was irish and very loving and supportive of background. i mean , absolutely background. i mean, absolutely secure and then but you know, from about five i've, i used to copy dancers and anything musical on tv. so my parents sent me to a little dancing school and then i used to do competitions. and when i was about 11, my dad being very wise, said , well, if you're wise, said, well, if you're going to do this professionally, and he must have seen that i had some sort of talent, he said, you need to go to a better school . so at 11, i changed school. so at 11, i changed dancing schools . and then having dancing schools. and then having been the star at a smaller school, i was then the worst at a bigger school. but i did very well and started doing really well. there and went to the royal ballet school doing a teaching but i was also teaching course. but i was also learning, you know, with the dancers that were at the royal ballet school and then i've always been a bit of a squirrel with money. and so when it came

that i was graduating and we'd all go off around europe to dance with european ballet companies and try and get a job, there was suddenly a notice in there was suddenly a notice in the stage newspaper paper that the stage newspaper paper that the iranian national ballet were going to be in london auditioning , and they were auditioning, and they were paying auditioning, and they were paying five times what the royal ballet were paying. so i auditioned and then my poor parents, because i was always independent and wanting to travel. and i said, right, that's it, i'm off to iran. you know, to this ballet company. i'll stay about three years. i'll stay about three years. i'll save lots of money. then i'll save lots of money. then i'll come back and buy some properties so that if i go into show business, it doesn't work . show business, it doesn't work. i can fall back on that and i've got an income. so that was my plan. course, little did plan. but of course, little did i know that seven months after being there, the ayatollah came back and then we all had to hide who were westerners in the company in this big block of flats, but we couldn't get food . we couldn't go out. the boys used to go out at like 7:00 in the morning and get us flatbread

in iran. they had like little bakeries, but they were like pizza ovens on the roadside, and they'd cook them three times a day. so the boys went to the first cook of the day at seven in the morning, and we lived on that and a few tinned things. and saved a lot of money and i had saved a lot of money by then in that seven months. so myself and two friends we knew somebody who was linked to the airline . we paid about ten times airline. we paid about ten times what it would normally cost to come back to europe, bought tickets , and we were on the last tickets, and we were on the last plane to leave tehran before they closed the airport. and even to this day, i can remember it was dawn because we had a curfew and we couldn't leave any earlier being driven to the airport in a taxi and seeing the tanks surround tehran as the sun was coming up. and then if you've seen the film argo with ben affleck , it's all about ben affleck, it's all about people being caught in in iran . people being caught in in iran. and, well, it's my story . and and, well, it's my story. and they were in an apartment block and escaped. and when i got to

the airport that my visa had been fixed and they thought i'd done it. and so they cut off my two friends, went through passport control. i was put in an office, but it was like a cupboard. and i literally 19 in chiang tied up a young customs officer who came in and sort of said, what are you doing in here? and i said, blah, blah, blah, blah. and he literally stamped my passport and said, blah, blah. and he literally stamand my passport and said, blah, blah. and he literally stamand in passport and said, blah, blah. and he literally stamand i ranassport and said, blah, blah. and he literally stamand i ran like)rt and said, blah, blah. and he literally stamand i ran like in and said, blah, blah. and he literally stamand i ran like in argo said, run. and i ran like in argo across the tarmac , past across the tarmac, past soldiers, you know, with machine guns up the stairs onto the plane, like in in a movie . but plane, like in in a movie. but argo had it, you know, staircase went up and i got to switzerland and then i reverse charges to mum and dad and said, it's okay, i'm safe and i'm out. but they hadnt i'm safe and i'm out. but they hadn't heard from me for three months and my dad for the rest of his life could never talk about it. >> oh, are you an only child ? no. >> i've got a brother and a sister, but i was the eldest and they. sister, but i was the eldest and they . they have never done they. they have never done anything mad like i have done . anything mad like i have done. so i was the one i think, that

gave mum and dad more worries. but then i came back, you see, and. and i trained in some modern dancing and so none of the ballet companies were auditioning. so i auditioned for auditioning. so i auditioned for a big organised ization that were putting summer shows on around the country and they put me with paul daniels. now, i had noidea me with paul daniels. now, i had no idea who paul daniels was, and i didn't know what he i and i didn't know what he did. i just thought must be a just thought he must be a comedian a singer. hadn't comedian or a singer. i hadn't seen him, so i signed this four and half contract to go and a half month contract to go to yarmouth for his summer to great yarmouth for his summer season went and season and then went home and sort rung friends and said to sort of rung friends and said to mum dad, i've got a job, mum and dad, oh, i've got a job, you know, but it's with this guy, and then they guy, paul daniels. and then they said, he's a magician. and i went, oh, no , i hate magic act, went, oh, no, i hate magic act, but i'm going to work with the magician for four and a half months. so but of course then i realised the only thing i'd seen paul i started paul do before i started rehearsals was blankety blank, where he was really, really funny . and i thought, oh, funny. and i thought, oh, actually this might be okay, but not for one minute. did i think i'd ever end up married to him.

>> so you so when did you sort of fall in love with paul? >> so you so when did you sort of fall irit ove with paul? >> so you so when did you sort of fall irit the with paul? >> so you so when did you sort of fall irit the first paul? >> so you so when did you sort of fall irit the first moment saw him? >> really? yeah we were both early because we're both always people got places early and people that got places early and i was the rehearsal room was a church hall, and i was sitting outside on the wall and i was there first. and then i can remember he came up with his box of tricks and started joking with me. and we had some banter and we just had an instant charisma . and we just had an instant charisma. but i was 20 and we just had an instant charisma . but i was 20 years charisma. but i was 20 years younger than him, so for eight years he just kept saying, go and find a boyfriend your own age. you're too young , you know? age. you're too young, you know? and then when i got to 28, he thought, well, and then when i got to 28, he thought, well , the press won't thought, well, the press won't be so difficult and it won't look so much, you know, like i'm so much younger. >> so you weren't actually a couple until you were a lot older? >> no. he'd take me to opening nights and different things . you nights and different things. you know, the magic circle banquet and stuff like that. but no, do you never actually kissed him or anything that at that time?

anything like that at that time? oh, yeah, we. oh, you did? yeah >> that's just so that's >> that's just so nosy. that's a little secret. i'm saying. little secret. i'm just saying. well there, there. >> kisses. but. but >> the exciting kisses. but. but no. so. yeah and then, you know, i he still thought i was too young, but then i started doing his tv show, which came about from auditioning for his director and producer. and the first year i auditioned, i didn't get and then the didn't get it. and then the second year, i think it was his third year of his tv show. second year, i think it was his third year of his tv show . we third year of his tv show. we were in the west end doing a year show at the prince of wales theatre and his audition for his director and the producer came to the show and up until then, they used different people every yean they used different people every year, two different girls each yeah year, two different girls each year. and he said, oh, would i like to do the show? so i joined the third year with another girl called mandy , who i'm still like called mandy, who i'm still like best friends with. and then, you know, the rest is history, really. they just kept me on. >> i remember watching an interview with you with paul daniels and what's the secret? and said that you literally daniels and what's the secret? and all;aid that you literally daniels and what's the secret? and all;aid time/ou literally daniels and what's the secret? and all;aid time and.iterally daniels and what's the secret? and all;aid time and we ally daniels and what's the secret? and all;aid time and we did. daniels and what's the secret?

anchu ll;aid time and we did. daniels and what's the secret? anchu justd time and we did. daniels and what's the secret? anchu justd time we we did. daniels and what's the secret? anchu justd time we just did. >> you just laugh. we just laugh. we played jokes on each other all the time. >> of course, when he >> yeah. and of course, when he died, very died, that must have been very tough. yeah it's grief, isn't what i thought it was. >> my dad 18 months >> i'd lost my dad 18 months before paul, who i was really close to, and that pain and sadness. and i can remember six months after my dad died, we were flying back from america from a job. and i cried the whole eight hours on the plane. it suddenly grief came out it suddenly my grief came out and it was awful. but when paul died , it was was a completely died, it was it was a completely different grief . if it's your different grief. if it's your partner who i worked and shared my with and your support, my life with and your support, blanket's gone . that's the only blanket's gone. that's the only way i never expected. i've always been so independent. i never expect that i suddenly became quite vulnerable and yeah, that really i felt like i was in an ocean and i didn't know where to swim. that's the and i can remember going shopping to a department store near where i live and, you know, we were always ringing each other and i went to go and ring

home and thought, no, he's home and then thought, no, he's not there . and that was the not there. and that was the first time the reality kicked in. and then, yeah , you have to in. and then, yeah, you have to carry on. >> you have to. yes but you've carried on and you've done some incredible things like strictly come dancing. >> how lucky am i? >> how lucky am i? >> , she's good. you're so >> gosh, she's good. you're so good. >> oh, thank you. well, i'm just one of those people i just one of those people that i just think i'll have a go, you know? that's what you have to and that's what you have to do and do your it's about do your best. it's all about doing and then even doing your best. and then even if you're rubbish something, if you're rubbish at something, you've best. so that's you've done your best. so that's fine. and after paul died, i went back to my radio show , like went back to my radio show, like the after , which the doctor the week after, which the doctor told to do to get back into told me to do to get back into normal life . and i spoke to a normal life. and i spoke to a friend who's a grief counsellor who said they used to believe that grief shrunk you know how they say time heals, but they don't believe that now. they believe that your grief stays the same and you have to build a bigger life around it. and i absolutely believe that. i still miss paul every day. i miss

those laughs . you know, i miss those laughs. you know, i miss oh, i think here's something interesting. i'd ring and tell him or he'd ring me. i miss all of that. making every decision with him. but now i've just. yeah, i say yes to everything . yeah, i say yes to everything. and life's good again. >> well, i'm so glad you said yes to this show. it's such a pleasure to. >> well, i wanted to meet you so i wanted to meet you. >> i like debbie. i will never forget your argentine tango. it really know really was a moment. you know how rewind how you rewind, rewind, rewind it again and again. it and watch it again and again. you such poise and grace. you have such poise and grace. well the thing is, i suppose i had been at the royal ballet school for two years before i did strictly, and i hadn't kept my dancing up. >> but i do do yoga and pilates , and so therefore i had that still kept that kind of strength , i suppose. and i was dancing with an amazing partner. yeah, he was tough . i mean, they are he was tough. i mean, they are tough. yeah. strictly >> but you were. you were incredible. and it was so good to so now you're to see you. so right now you're ready are you to ready for. are you open to seeing other people now? seeing meeting other people now? are you still?

are you dating still? >> know, i have no idea >> you know, i have no idea because i just think if you look for something, won't find it for something, you won't find it and act, you'll be and you feel act, you'll be desperate. >> what i've done with my >> so what i've done with my life is i do everything that makes happy . and i see lots makes me happy. and i see lots of friends. i go on holiday with friends, you know , but i'm not friends, you know, but i'm not on dating websites or anything like i just think , look, like that. i just think, look, if it's meant to happen to me, it day and that would it will one day and that would be lovely. but in the meantime, i'm just going to enjoy myself and i am . and i am. >> well, listen, debbie, i really appreciate you coming in to talk to me. >> thank you for asking me. >> thank you for asking me. >> thank you so much. that is the incredible debbie mcgee. wonderful. well, is, wonderful. well, that is, of course, conversations. wonderful. well, that is, of cowso. conversations. wonderful. well, that is, of cowso pleased conversations. wonderful. well, that is, of cowso pleased that versations. wonderful. well, that is, of cowso pleased that debbie ns. wonderful. well, that is, of cowso pleased that debbie came i'm so pleased that debbie came to join us. aslef you get your messages and i'd love to hear messages in and i'd love to hear your thoughts well. but your thoughts as well. but coming up, it's the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, bring back asking, is it time to bring back national but first, national service? but first, let's get an update with your weather. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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britain's news . britain's news. channel >> good afternoon . it's just >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 26 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv onune 5:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's time now for our great british debate this houn our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking , is it time hour. and i'm asking, is it time to bring back national service? now, conservative mp penny mordaunt has suggested a brand new national service should be created in the uk , with every 16 created in the uk, with every 16 year old automatically signed up. now ms mordaunt thinks a new national service can be unifying and help teach people the skills they need to thrive in the modern world. but is a new national service a good idea? i mean , should we really be

mean, should we really be enrolling 16 year olds in government service? what do you think? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking , is debate this hour, i'm asking, is it time to bring back national service? now by service? i'm joined now by colonel richard kemp, former british army commander ewan grant, former strategic intelligence analyst, and beunda intelligence analyst, and belinda de lucy , former brexit belinda de lucy, former brexit party mep . there's somebody party mep. there's somebody who's not quite in the camera there. i'm not sure how low i'll start . i'll start there. i'm not sure how low i'll start. i'll start i'll there. i'm not sure how low i'll start . i'll start i'll start start. i'll start i'll start with you. is that you? and in the centre there is that you and in the centre you and grant. >> well i'm on the left of my screen . screen. >> i'm currently at the financial times weekend festival behind a tree . oh i see. and behind a tree. oh i see. and hopefully away from the crowds . hopefully away from the crowds. >> yes. but we can hear you clearly. so ewan, what do you think then? is it is it time to bnng think then? is it is it time to bring back national service ? bring back national service? >> suppose it depends >> well, i suppose it depends what you define as national service. >> maybe some might say 16, given the education issue between gcse is and beyond and

university and gap years and who can afford that ? can afford that? >> um, i think the answer would be it's time to consider something very much so . so, um, something very much so. so, um, it would clearly , there would it would clearly, there would clearly have to be some kind of a cross—party consensus, which is very difficult . a cross—party consensus, which is very difficult. but given a cross—party consensus, which is very difficult . but given the is very difficult. but given the fractures in society and the challenges we're to going face and richard kemp has been warning us almost daily in the telegraph about the challenges ukraine faces , which may be ours ukraine faces, which may be ours in modified forms in the years to come. and not too long away. so the my answer would be time to think . but what kind of to think. but what kind of national service? >> well, that's a good question. colonel richard kemp, your thoughts then. what do you make of this national service? is it time to revisit that place? >> great idea. obviously we're not talking here about bringing back the sort of national service that existed after the

second world war where young people were compulsorily conscripted into the armed forces. that's not what's on the table here. >> and rightly too, in my view. um, but, but i do think that having some kind of whether it's compulsory or strongly encouraged for form of education beyond the classroom is something that would be highly beneficial to many. 16 year olds and even younger children as well. and the sort of thing i would recommend is adventurous training, taking them out beyond their sort of normal safety limits, teaching them skills that they will apply to life as a whole team building, working as a member of a team and other activities along those lines. but i think there is there is a little bit of a danger here of the potential for it being by by political indoctrination . and i political indoctrination. and i think it's very important that most of our education system has been taken over by wokeist . and been taken over by wokeist. and i think it's very important that

this particular aspect be totally apolitical . a no totally apolitical. a no indoctrination, none of the stuff you get in classrooms from the woke. >> but but you know, real practical life skills and preferably as far as the law allows, preferably getting them out of the cotton wool wrapping that so many people are involved in in society today. >> so exposing them to real hazards , not, not not hazards, not, not not necessarily , you know, a danger necessarily, you know, a danger to them, obviously well considered, but but the kind of hazards is not to going meet in day to day life. >> yeah, i suppose expanding their their their vision instead of them worrying about which toilet should they go into, whether they're gender neutral and what gender they should be, perhaps some real skills that life life, proper skills. beunda life life, proper skills. belinda what you think? >> i think we owe it to the young generation. >> i think we owe it to the youwe'veleration. >> i think we owe it to the youwe've created a climate that >> we've created a climate that is hostile to the mental well—being of our young . well—being of our young. >> with the online social media world that they've been exposed

to. you know, i'm around teenagers all the time and i can see the difference of what they're put at risk in terms of mental health and the studies and reports . mental health and the studies and reports. for mental health and the studies and reports . for example, 10 to and reports. for example, 10 to 15 year olds are twice as likely to suffer mental health. they spend more than three hours on social media a day and they're giving antidepressants to children with anxiety has risen 41% since 2015. this sedentary , 41% since 2015. this sedentary, docile, isolating social media world that we've given to our children, we need we need to give them a path to reset that where they can learn leadership skills and have shared experiences as a team. but most importantly , especially in the importantly, especially in the world of today , of identity world of today, of identity politics, where children are sort of separated in groups to be suspicious of each other and gender ideology is confused in children. we need them to have a sense of purpose that they can

share together. that brings community together and duty to one's country is so important. i think it actually helps with happiness as well as the physical discipline of all the activities. i say start at younger at 14, make it longer there. i totally agree it should be completely void of any woke political indoctrination and let's get the children away from their screens and give them back some sense of purpose, duty and service to their country and to their communities. >> well, i like the sound of that. so, in a word, then, beunda that. so, in a word, then, belinda deluise, yes or no? we need should we bring back a form of national service? yes. yes absolutely. richard kemp, colonel richard kemp, yes or no? a form of national service . a form of national service. yeah. yeah and also you and grant . should we bring back grant. should we bring back a form of national service? i don't know what form it would take, but some form? yes or no? >> yes. >> yes. >> in some form. >> in some form. so >> in some form. so these >> in some form. so these are all. yes. everyone thinks it's a good idea. all. yes. everyone thinks it's a goodidea.thank all. yes. everyone thinks it's a good idea. thank you so much to beunda good idea. thank you so much to belinda de lucy, colonel richard

kemp and also ewan grant. thank you much for thoughts. you so much for your thoughts. but think? we but what do you think? should we do it? they're all saying yes, but think get in but perhaps you think no, get in touch usual way. gb views touch in the usual way. gb views gbnews.com. with me. i'm gbnews.com. you're with me. i'm nana this the gb news nana akua. this is the gb news on tv online and our digital radio. we'll continue radio. coming up. we'll continue with the british debate with the great british debate this asking is it this hour. and i'm asking is it time to bring back national service? so far it's yes. all service? so far it's a yes. all round. the thoughts round. you'll hear the thoughts of panel, lizzie and of my panel, lizzie cundy and simon first, let's simon danczuk. but first, let's get news with get your latest news with aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> it's 532. let's get you up to date with the headlines from the gb newsroom. ministers are facing calls for transparency over the scale of aerated concrete in public buildings with the condition of some, including hospitals, being described as jaw dropping. writing in the times , the chair writing in the times, the chair of the commons public accounts committee, dame meg hillier, is warning the problem in schools is just the tip of the iceberg. labouris is just the tip of the iceberg. labour is demanding an urgent audh labour is demanding an urgent audit while the lib dems have

labelled it a national emergency which warrants an immediate cobra meeting , gb news can cobra meeting, gb news can reveal a big surge in small boats crossing the channel as around 600 migrants made it to the uk waters today. it's understood people smuggling gangs are taking advantage of an improvement in the weather and a high tide. the number of migrants intercepted so far this year now stands at more than 20,000. rail passengers are struggling with delays and cancellations today as a result of further strike action by the rmt. up to 20,000 union members at 14 operators have walked out , forcing services to start later and finish earlier with a knock on effect tomorrow morning. two members of the train drivers union aslef, who are on picket lines. yesterday are on picket lines. yesterday are refusing to work overtime and policing should not be used as a political football. a warning for the home secretary after she accused officers of partisan ship on controversial issues . the police federation of issues. the police federation of england and wales says the government keep changing the

goalposts on wanting officers to be more involved while simultaneously like simultaneously acting like robots. suella braverman has commissioned a review into activism and impartiality in the force, which labour says demonstrates her political obsession with the issue. the liberal democrats have accused her of using the police as a weapon in her culture war. more on all of our stories on our website. gb news dot com. now it's back to nana . it's back to nana. >> well, still to come, we'll see if my what my panel think with regard on our quick fire quiz. but on the way next our great british debate this hour i'm asking is it time to bring back national service that's on the way next. earlier on gb news radio , you you thanks for radio, you you thanks for joining us on the show. >> no surprises, really. quentin we're looking at a £35 billion

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coconuts. all right. well we're live on tv, online on digital radio now. before we get back into the great british debate this hour, i want to read some of the messages because a lot of you have been in touch you have been getting in touch with regards to the interview with regards to the interview with says with regards to the interview with a says with regards to the interview with a lovely says with regards to the interview with a lovely warm, says with regards to the interview with a lovely warm, genuine;ays what a lovely warm, genuine person. mcgee is. that person. debbie mcgee is. that was a great interview. thank you very did all the very much. she did all the talking. great talking. she's the great one. martin that wasn't martin says that wasn't difficult. was inspiring . difficult. that was inspiring. oh, debbie is brilliant . peter oh, debbie is brilliant. peter says debbie is an absolute delight. and carol says, what a lovely, amusing, interesting woman. agreed here, here. we'll keep all those messages coming. we love them, but it's now time for the great british debate this and i'm is it this hour. and i'm asking, is it time to back national time to bring back national service now, conservative mp penny mordaunt has suggested a brand new national service that automatically signs up every 16 year old in the uk. ms morton thinks that a new national service like this could be unifying and could also help teach people the skills they need to thrive in the modern world. but is a new national

service a good idea? i mean, should we be enrolling 16 year olds into government service ? olds into government service? what do you think? so for the great this hour, great british debate this hour, i'm time to bring i'm asking, is it time to bring back national service? well, let's my panel make of let's see what my panel make of that. joined by broadcaster that. i'm joined by broadcaster and lizzie and and columnist lizzie cundy and also mp simon also former labour mp simon danczuk. no single shots. danczuk. sorry, no single shots. i'm going to start with you, lizzie. >> yeah, well, no , not at all. >> yeah, well, no, not at all. >> i mean, this old rancid chestnut , i >> i mean, this old rancid chestnut, i mean, is raising its ugly antique head again . what ugly antique head again. what happened to school and parents and how arrogant is it to think that all teenagers need such coaching? like this? i mean, i just think it's absolutely i mean, why go back ? we're going mean, why go back? we're going forward. look, no. one wants to read a load of hermits are sitting at home just on their computers. but that's up to the parents to and inspire them to get them out , to go and do get them out, to go and do sports, you know , know how to sports, you know, know how to behave in life. i certainly wouldn't want my two boys going

this. and how is this going to be run? how is actually this going who's paying going to happen? who's paying for it? moses, the miracle worker . i for it? moses, the miracle worker. i mean, what do you think? >> i actually i disagree completely who's to going completely with who's to going pay pay for it. >> i think i think it's >> i think well, i think it's a great idea. i think it gets young people putting something back early on in back into society early on in their career. and that's a good thing . it doesn't to be thing. it doesn't have to be military focussed . it can military focussed. it can be volunteer in a charity or volunteer in in a charity or something that. denmark something like that. denmark i think, is a good model to follow. they do something very similar where you be similar where you can be conscripted military or conscripted into the military or do voluntary work. there's many countries it. countries that actually do it. it's voluntary in the us, but many people take up the peace corps there and i think it's for great team building, for showing discipline and determination. and i think young people would get a lot out of it. there's always a bill, whatever you do, there's always a cost to these sorts of things. can make sorts of things. but we can make there's places we can there's lots of places we can make cuts. >> what would you say >> but what what would you say to the argument that made to the argument that was made earlier kemp , who earlier by richard kemp, who said long as don't said that as long as they don't become ideologically captured,

which what's happening in which is what's happening in these of institutions, so these sort of institutions, so schools have become ideologically captured by the schools have become ideolo�*transy captured by the schools have become ideolo�*trans ideologyi by the schools have become ideolo�*trans ideology and the schools have become ideolo�*trans ideology and all the whole trans ideology and all the other nonsense that's going on, the gender ideology . the gender ideology. >> you know, so what how do i think you could end up with that? no, no. >> i think that's a really interesting question. my son is 15 and i think young people now, if you want to rebel , like when if you want to rebel, like when i a young, young i was a young, young teenager, if to rebel, you if you wanted to rebel, you became an anarchist. and it was all the punk, punk rock era and things. if you want to rebel now, you chances are you'll move to the right, not to the left. you won't buy into the whole woke agenda . that's why on woke agenda. that's why early on in program were talking in the program we were talking about really about some people really fighting back against this fighting back against all this woke . and i think that's woke agenda. and i think that's what people will do. what many young people will do. so i think can actually be so i think it can actually be counterproductive. the counterproductive. i think the chance of having national service is a really good opportunity to get young people moving in the right direction, not focussed on education, focussed on, you know, networking, communication and

how do you build a team leadership? i think it's a real positive. >> but lizzie, what about so lizzie, if you think about, you know, obviously the way this is going, we have a lot of people coming country from going, we have a lot of people comircountries country from going, we have a lot of people comircountries who |ntry from going, we have a lot of people comircountries who thenfrom going, we have a lot of people comircountries who then have other countries who then have children. how are going to children. how are we going to build of sense of build a sort of sense of national and unity from national pride and unity from people are, you sons people who are, you know, sons and of people who may and daughters of people who may have come this and have come to this country and have come to this country and have may have any. have no they may not have any. you know, patron to this country. so what are you saying? >> going to send them >> are you going to send them off national? off to national? >> saying isn't >> no, no, i'm saying that isn't is not way of is this not a good way of harnessing sort of love of harnessing a sort of love of britain the united kingdom? britain and the united kingdom? >> well, think it comes from >> well, i think it comes from your your parents. the school. let's we're let's focus and what we're paying let's focus and what we're paying facilities . paying into already facilities. look at the duke of edinburgh awards and things that, not awards and things like that, not the national service that's going a and penny, going back a step. and penny, has she really sorted this out? how is for? i've heard how long is this for? i've heard it's two weeks. what's that going i think it going to do? no i think it should for 18 months. should be for 18 months. >> two years? >> two years? >> you seen what she's set >> have you seen what she's set out? what she's out? have you seen what she's set seen ill thought set out? i've seen ill thought out who's going to for it. out who's going to pay for it. who's running program?

who's running this program? sorry i mean, i think it's sorry i mean, look, i think it's really, arrogant to think really, really arrogant to think that teens, teenagers that all teens, all teenagers need this sort of coaching. what about what about the fact that all the all of the youth clubs have gone a lot of the things that young would have that young people would have done those things done in our day, those things have would not foster have gone would not this foster a sense community a sense of community amongst young people and it not young people and would it not potentially them sort potentially give them some sort of because lot of them coming >> because a lot of them coming out of universities or whatever these places completely these places are completely clueless these places are completely clue and still talking these places are completely clueand still talking nonsense. life and still talking nonsense. >> and i think they'd go on to really appreciate doing really appreciate it doing a degree. university as degree. i went to university as a mature student and really appreciated chance to be appreciated the chance to be able and examine the able to study and examine the issues because you've done all that. issues because you've done all that . they would do that during that. they would do that during this period of national service . but it's not about looking back.i . but it's not about looking back. i think you could have a forward looking national service , one that is about volunteering , putting something back into your community, perhaps doing military might not military service, but might not be as well. >> they can that anyway. >> but they can do that anyway. there there there are facilities out there for that. think you have for that. i don't think you have to the national service. this

to do the national service. this hasn't been thought hasn't been well thought out at all think really isn't all and i think it really isn't fair. and i think, as i say , fair. and i think, as i say, again, very arrogant to think that all teenagers are going to have this have to do this and need this sort they don't. sort of coaching. they don't. >> they will if you force them right. this show is nothing without your views. without you and your views. let's british without you and your views. let's onto british without you and your views. let's onto show. british without you and your views. let's onto show. their'itish voice onto the show. their opportunity on the opportunity to be on the show and us they think and tell us what they think about topics we're about the topics we're discussing i've for discussing today. i've got for review. amanda review. let's start with amanda hindley should hindley in kent. amanda should they you've got children they do it? you've got children . what you think? . what do you think? >> nana . i'm . what do you think? >> nana. i'm really on >> hi, nana. i'm really torn on this one, you know, because i think it's sad that we've got to the point where we i think we do need to reintroduce this national service. >> i think we've got a generation absolutely lost generation of absolutely lost children that don't whether children that don't know whether they're going. they're they're coming or going. they're chronically depressed. they're medicate, they're overweight. they've social anxiety. they've got social anxiety. >> too busy crying into >> they're too busy crying into their tiktok followers that juue their tiktok followers that julie up the road is misgendered them in the co op. >> and i feel they need to >> and i feel like they need to be guided into something help be guided into something to help them . and national service them. and maybe national service is the way forward. >> i like the sound of that. miranda richardson, the

miranda richardson, not the miranda richardson, not the miranda richardson, not the miranda richardson, but the one in miranda in northamptonshire. miranda what think? what do you think? >> nana do you know i'm >> hi nana do you know what i'm of similar thought process >> hi nana do you know what i'm of wellimilar thought process >> hi nana do you know what i'm of well .nilar thought process as well. >> um, i think we need to look at using the word national service does kind of allude us to think we're going backwards. like lizzie said, i think we need to. to look at how we teach things in schools . we need to go things in schools. we need to go back to that . we need to look at back to that. we need to look at fundamentals half of them can't measure a carpet for a room, but yet they want to have the best tvs hanging on the wall. and it's probably not even big enough. life enough. you know, basic life skills. to balance skills. how to balance the books, how to manage the money they've got coming in. there's a way of phrasing it. there's a way of phrasing it. there's a way turning it that doesn't way of turning it that doesn't make it sound so military. and so, know , dickensian . so, you know, dickensian. >> all right. thank you for that. let's go to let's go to bnan that. let's go to let's go to brian dugan, who's there in i don't want to say, is it solihull? you might not be there because you have to move around. are you in solihull? >> well nana . yes, i'm

>> well done, nana. yes, i'm a solihull. less of the suggestion that i move around . that i move around. >> listen, i'm with lizzie on this . um, i >> listen, i'm with lizzie on this. um, i think she summed it up well. i think there's a bit of arrogance or trace of arrogance. i don't think that really it's. it's thought out in terms of simon has suggested that, you know , perhaps there that, you know, perhaps there could even be military connotations and associations to this, which actually isn't the suggestion at all, which is why i don't think the national service is an appropriate term or even a helpful term in this. what what penny mordaunt actually referred to was some kind of civic exploration program that might last a couple of weeks and that it wouldn't be manned and it would just be it would just be voluntary. there's lots of voluntary whatever would be good. >> well, whatever she's calling it, i mean, you know, whatever it's called it, should it be juue it's called it, should it be julie ford, what do you think ? julie ford, what do you think? >> yeah, i am absolutely 100% behind this. i think this is what the country needs, to be honest with you. >> yes, there is a generation of

children out there who don't really know where they are in life. and there's a lack of discipline. >> and as lizzie has pointed out, that is to do with schools and parenting. but there's also and parenting. but there's also a generation there who don't know how to parent. so i think generally bringing something like national service would bnng like national service would bring skills and it bring in life skills and it would bring in discipline. and i think you'd see a huge cut in youth you something youth crime if you had something like service that was mandatory. >> i hear you. oh listen, thank you so much, amanda and kent. bnan you so much, amanda and kent. brian and solihull, juliet in bedford in bedford and miranda in northamptonshire. right now, i want to this story. want to move on to this story. it caught my eye. the family of the former prime minister william kicked william gladstone kicked off a debate they travelled william gladstone kicked off a debate to they travelled william gladstone kicked off a debate to apologise'avelled to guyana to apologise for his part slave trade . say for part in the slave trade. say for goodness sake, but is it our responsibility in the 21st century to be apologise paying for the sins of the past? the so—called sins? then let's see what my panel make of that. joining broadcast from joining me broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy, also former danczuk . and, former mp simon danczuk. and, simon, i'm going to come to you immediately reparations immediately on this reparations

for time for you for slavery. is it time for you to nonsense? to stop this nonsense? >> we should stop the >> i think we should stop the nonsense of talking about reparations. i'll be honest with you. weeks sierra you. i spent ten weeks in sierra leone year on leone earlier this year on business and met lots of sierra leoneans. business and met lots of sierra leoneans . and if know the leoneans. and if you know the history that that's history of that country, that's where slaves were where a lot of slaves were returned to when they were given freedom. so it's a really important country. in terms of this debate. i think the people of country to hand up, of that country want to hand up, not a handout. and by that i mean they want assistance to develop enterprise is to do to do trade. >> but why should we even be giving anything? let's be honest. the africans sold their people. they brought them to the coast the white trade owners coast for the white trade owners to take them. but slavery to take them. but the slavery was going on even before the white along. was going on even before the whilizzie along. was going on even before the whilizzie and along. was going on even before the whilizzie and altotally >> lizzie yeah, and i totally agree with simon and where does it far do we go? when it stop? how far do we go? when are to the roman are we going back to the roman times? we times? what happens? and we learn mistakes . we learn from our mistakes. we learn from our mistakes. we learn and that's learn from history. and that's how we progress. and i actually think many of these countries want progressive give and want to be progressive give and this is like looking back , let's this is like looking back, let's look forward. this is like looking back, let's loo well, ard. this is like looking back, let's loo well, also history is

>> well, also the history is lies we've been told. lies the way we've been told. oh, is terrible, but we oh, britain is terrible, but we ended listen britain ended slavery. listen britain ended slavery. listen britain ended slavery. listen britain ended slavery. let's be ended slavery. but let's be honest. britain got honest. before britain got there, still there, the slavery was still happening. their happening. but between their own people then came people. and then ships came along moved own people people. and then ships came alonthey moved own people people. and then ships came alonthey were 'ed own people people. and then ships came alonthey were selling own people people. and then ships came alonthey were selling aan people people. and then ships came alonthey were selling as slavesple that they were selling as slaves around the world. and before that, on white that, there was slavery on white people the slaves. and people who were the slaves. and before and before so before that and before that. so i think reparations nonsense before that and before that. so i think stop.arations nonsense before that and before that. so i think stop. but ons nonsense before that and before that. so i think stop. but now1onsense before that and before that. so i think stop. but now let'sense needs to stop. but now let's move on. i love this. my quick fire quiz is part of the show where test panel on some of where i test my panel on some of the stories hitting the the other stories hitting the headunes the other stories hitting the headlines right now. joining me broadcast headlines right now. joining me broad

>> new zealand. >> zealand. that's what he's >> new zealand. that's what he's saying. australia. i w- australia. i saw this >> i actually saw this operation. oh god . oh, it was operation. oh god. oh, it was terrifying . terrifying. >> nasty. in fact, i heard the woman saying i went to it. i didn't realise. and then it started moving. it was moving in the brain. right. well, question two get that at home? two did you get that at home? well done. american has well done. an american woman has set record for set a guinness world record for the longest mullet. so the world's longest mullet. so how was her hair? closest how long was her hair? closest answer wins. can do it in answer wins. you can do it in metres, whatever answer wins. you can do it in met like whatever answer wins. you can do it in met like . whatever answer wins. you can do it in met like . buzzer whatever answer wins. you can do it in met like . buzzer simonatever answer wins. you can do it in met like . buzzer simon 2.5m. you like. buzzer simon 2.5m. 2.5m. i'm going to go 3—3 metres. three metres . oh, well, metres. three metres. oh, well, actually . 172.72cm is closest to 2.5m. >> it's very good . >> it's very good. >> it's very good. >> simon yes . >> simon yes. >> simon yes. >> mullet there's only one mullet and that's pat sharp, my friend . best mullet. friend. best mullet. >> well, she hadn't cut her hair since 1990. apparently. two or false. taylor swift has become the highest grossing female tour of all times. this week . of all times. this week. >> simon true, true . >> simon true, true. >> simon true, true. >> well, you said it before you press your brother, but i'll let

you have it. >> lizzie cundy well, i'm going to say false. >> you're going to say false. it's well, just in case it's very well, just in case it's because is false. it's wrong, because it is false. >> ha >> ha ha ha. >> ha ha ha. >> i knew it false. >> i knew it was false. >> i knew it was false. >> in fact, that title was claimed by bootylicious. beyonce this week because her renaissance grossed renaissance tour was grossed £346 million with plenty of wow and if you ask me, the best between taylor and beyonce. beyonce any day . yeah, no beyonce any day. yeah, no question for the state of florida has been rocked by a hurricane this week. but what was the name given to it? was it a adalia ? b, igor or c, ingrid? a adalia? b, igor or c, ingrid? lizzie cundy, c , ingrid, c, lizzie cundy, c, ingrid, c, ingrid. what do you think ? ingrid. what do you think? >> go on. i'll go for a you go for a which is adalia . for a which is adalia. >> a adalia. let's see if you're right . oh, oh, it's a it's. right. oh, oh, it's a it's. >> does it? well done. >> does it? well done. >> well, answer that is a simple name, so i'll give you something, dalia, to. >> we're question. >> we're question. >> oh, the prime minister fumio kishida, has moved to reassure residents that water from the

fukushima nuclear reactor released is safe. >> but what has been done to prove this? is it a drinking a glass of water? b walking through the reactor complex or c, a ate sushi eating sushi? i think you know what? >> i'm going to go for a they actually took a c, you go for c? >> yeah, you're going to go for sushl >> yeah, you're going to go for sushi. sushi the answer is, oh, c from oh oh yeah. >> i haven't lost in weeks . >> i haven't lost in weeks. >> i haven't lost in weeks. >> you've lost that though. i think it was. well done. well done. so the scores on the doors, well done to lizzie. i hope you won at home. yes. the japanese minister is japanese prime minister is trying to reassure japanese citizens is citizens that released water is safe. well, listen, on today's show, i've been asking, do you believe that rishi sunak can win the general election? the next general election? according poll, 13% according to a twitter poll, 13% of say yes, 87% of you say of you say yes, 87% of you say no.thank of you say yes, 87% of you say no. thank you so much to my panel no. thank you so much to my panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. lizzie, thank you very much you and also former very much to you and also former labour danczuk . thank labour mp simon danczuk. thank you. virgin. he should

you. he's a virgin. he should hopefully and huge hopefully be back and a huge thank you at home for thank you to you at home for your company. it's been a pleasure. as ever. don't forget to with to join me tomorrow with christine danny christine hamilton and danny kelly, with kelly, but i'll leave you with the improving weather . the rapid improving weather. enjoy. see you tomorrow at three. >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. despite some cloud around this morning, many of us have seen some sunny intervals into afternoon and it will into this afternoon and it will be a fairly fine end to the day as well. the cloud tending to melt away into this evening, providing those intervals, providing those clear intervals, though, and fog will be though, the mist and fog will be returning overnight, particularly extensive for central eastern areas of england. but we can't rule out some elsewhere as well. some patches elsewhere as well. we'll turning windier for the we'll be turning windier for the northern though, with we'll be turning windier for the northearound though, with we'll be turning windier for the northearound coastline,]h, with gales around coastline, some heavy as well, heavy outbursts of rain as well, and notably warmer nights here compared previously, but compared to previously, but elsewhere , staying up around 12, elsewhere, staying up around 12, 13 c as well. once that early

mist and fog does clear its way off parts of england, wales and northern ireland should be a relatively some sunny relatively fine day. some sunny spells developing into the afternoon, rain will be afternoon, but the rain will be persisting across the far north, pushing into the highlands. but come afternoon turn come the afternoon it will turn generally lighter and patchy. but still with those winds but still with those gusty winds around, hold around, that will hold temperatures back the temperatures back in the northwest, elsewhere, northwest, but elsewhere, pleasantly warm, 26 c in the south—east, even 23 c for parts of aberdeen . high pressure stays of aberdeen. high pressure stays with us into the new working week. we've still got this lingering front in the far north. notice the north. and notice how the isobars are also squeezing together more the together a bit more across the west country. quite breezy west country. so quite breezy around here, but around coastal lines here, but for will be for many of us it will be a pleasantly warm day and for many of us it will be a p|good1tly warm day and for many of us it will be a p|good amountn day and for many of us it will be a p|good amount of day and for many of us it will be a p|good amount of sunshineiay and for many of us it will be a p|good amount of sunshine .|y and for many of us it will be a p|good amount of sunshine . so nd a good amount of sunshine. so we'll hold on to a lot of that sunshine into the forth coming week well temperatures week as well. and temperatures will continuing to slide will also be continuing to slide up high 20s possible in up the high 20s possible in places towards wednesday, perhaps even 30 c . perhaps even 30 c. >> the temperatures rising , a >> the temperatures rising, a boxt solar proud sponsors of

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