taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now . this show is all about opinion . it's mine, it's theirs. and of course , it's yours. we'll be course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing , course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing, and at times will disagree. but no times we will disagree. but no one cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour , joining me in the next hour, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, also broadcaster and author christine hamilton . and author christine hamilton. and in a few moments like those pictures there, in a few moments of time, we'll be going head to head a clash of minds with head in a clash of minds with former party mep ben former brexit party mep ben habib. senior habib. also gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. before we get nelson. but before we get started, here's your latest news with ray addison . thanks, nana. with ray addison. thanks, nana. >> good afternoon . coming up to >> good afternoon. coming up to 3:01, our top stories this hour. parents are being told classroom closures due to crumbling concrete are not a return to the dark days of school lockdowns. writing in the sun on sunday, the education secretary said the government had no choice but to order the full or partial

closure of more than 100 schools and colleges . labour is planning and colleges. labour is planning to force a vote to compel the prime minister to publish a list of all of the buildings at risk . shadow education secretary bridget phillipson says the government should have acted 5001191“. 5001191. >> soonen >>i soonen >> i appreciate that lots of parents across the country will be concerned because sadly many children are not going to be able to return to education or will be moved into portacabins or alternative accommodation because the risk that this because of the risk that this kind of crumbling concrete is going pose . it feels very going to pose. it all feels very last minute . and what we're last minute. and what we're calling the government to do calling on the government to do is publish a full list of all is to publish a full list of all of affected so that of the schools affected so that parents about parents can be confident about where problems are. and if where the problems are. and if they're not prepared do that, they're not prepared to do that, we a vote in we will force a vote in parliament to it parliament this week to make it happen. parliament this week to make it hapexchequer secretary to the >> exchequer secretary to the treasury gareth davies defended the government's actions, saying everything is being done. that can be done to protect students i >> -- >> but obviously this is incredibly serious, it's very concerning, but most people in this country will not be

affected by this . parents will affected by this. parents will be told by their schools first and foremost whether their impacted. if parents watching this have not heard from their schools by the opening of schools, they should proceed to the school as normal . well, the school as normal. well, that's been our priority . the that's been our priority. the education secretary will be making a statement, though, later this week in the house of commons. >> the number of people crossing the channel in small boats has hit a new daily record for this yean hit a new daily record for this year, 872 migrants in 15 dinghies were intercepted yesterday day of at least another two small boats, making it to uk waters today. gb news can reveal the total number of people entering the country illegally has now passed 21,000 so far this year. the chancellor has renewed his pledge to halve inflation, saying it's time to see the job through. speaking ahead of the next bank of england announcement on september 21st, jeremy hunt insisted the government is on track to reach the target this year. track to reach the target this

year . labour, however, is year. labour, however, is accusing him of being completely out of touch with the realities faced by families across the country. it comes as the latest figures show the uk economy recovered from the pandemic faster than expected . the boss faster than expected. the boss of tesco is urging the government to make abuse or violence towards retail workers an offence. writing in the mail on sunday, chief executive ken murphy said he's been forced to increase security measures and to offer staff bodycams physical assaults against tesco workers have risen by a third over the past year. he says that's unacceptable and described the impact on staff as heartbreaking . a red weather alert has been issued for parts of spain, including madrid, as storms sweep across the country. el in alcanar on the east coast, emergency services have told residents to stay inside as water flooded the streets . 215l water flooded the streets. 215l of rain per square metre fell in

the past 24 hours. the national weather agency is also warning of extreme danger in the capital with a deluge expected over the next 12 hours. well one person has died and tens of thousands more are extra landed in the nevada desert after torrential rain turned the burning man festival into a mud bath. us authorities have closed access to and from the site. revellers have been asked to conserve food and water. more rain is expected over the next few days, prompting some to leave the event on foot, trekking to the nearest highway . north korea event on foot, trekking to the nearest highway. north korea has carried out a simulated tactical nuclear attack , according to nuclear attack, according to state media. the drill includes two long—range cruise missiles carrying mock nuclear warheads . carrying mock nuclear warheads. government tv channel saying that it was designed to, quote , that it was designed to, quote, warn enemies that the country is prepared, if necessary, that there is a nuclear war. it comes after pyongyang vowed to bolster military deterrence against

washington and seoul. military deterrence against washington and seoul . the military deterrence against washington and seoul. the public will be consulted on plans for a permanent memorial to the late queen. nearly a year after her death, organised by an independent committee. the tribute will consider queen elizabeth's life of public service and the causes that she supported. it will also include a national legacy programme and be unveiled in 2026 on what would have been her 100th birthday. while all pageant master bruno peak says it needs to be a big event, memorial should be not just uk wide but commonwealth wide and something that could be organised every year as well . year as well. >> well, not just a statue view, but something that could be organised, that could bring people together every year in memory of this wonderful, wonderful person . wonderful person. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now let's

get back to nana . get back to nana. >> thank you very welcome. if you just joined me, it's just coming up to seven minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua here. now, before we get stuck into our debates over the next hour, let me first of all, reintroduce my panel. so joining me today going head to head a me today going head to head in a clash is former brexit clash of minds is former brexit party mep ben habib was a gb news senior political commentator. nigel nelson . so commentator. nigel nelson. so this is what we're discussing today. this is what we're discussing today . firstly, are the tories today. firstly, are the tories finally getting serious about ditching net zero.7 there's been a significant shift from the prime minister as rishi sunak faces off with the government's climate advisers over demands to halt airport expansion . then halt airport expansion. then macron gets a taste of his own medicine as more migrants appear to be going back now, some of them going back to france . them going back to france. french speaking migrants are using british visas to sneak into the country, creating a

headache for macron , then is our headache for macron, then is our cost of living crisis leading to a rise in crime? staff at tesco stores around the country have been offered body cams amid the rise in violent attacks. we'll be looking at the drug situation as well. do you think that this country has surrendered on fighting drugs amid pushes for legislation and a rise in drug taking across the country? have we become way too soft on these 7 we become way too soft on these ? and then nearly one year on from the death of queen elizabeth, the queen elizabeth memorial committee have been revealed today with a national memorial set to be announced . on memorial set to be announced. on 2026 to commemorate the queen. so that's all coming up in this hour. so that's all coming up in this hour . tell me so that's all coming up in this hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing and also the hour, i'm also throughout the hour, i'm going how we going to ask you how should we commemorate queen, your commemorate the queen, get your emails in on the emails and thoughts in on the usual way? vaiews@gbnews.com or tweet at . gb news. all right.

tweet me at. gb news. all right. so let's do this net zero. prime minister rishi sunak is set to reject net zero demands of government advisers over their demands to halt the expansion of airports . now, the government airports. now, the government believes airport growth will be key to boosting the economy and the move to reject the net zero advice comes amid growing anger within conservative within the conservative backbenchers that climate policy is a net zero is a drag, contributing to our cost of living crisis. so is rishi right to reject net zero? but not all of it though. let's be honest. well, let's see what my panel makers at joining me former brexit party mep habib, also brexit party mep ben habib, also senior political commentator nigel . i'm going to start nigel nelson. i'm going to start with then, nigel. with you then, nigel. >> you know he's wrong to reject it. >> i 5— it. >> i understand that airport >> i do understand that airport expansion is important for the economy . so is reaching the economy. so is reaching the target of net zero by 2050. >> now, the answer to this then is that the only way we can get there and have both is if you've got green aviation fuels which

aren't which which simply won't, then add extra carbon to the atmosphere . atmosphere. >> for now , these are being >> for now, these are being developed . there's talk about developed. there's talk about the government investing in companies, companies trying to produce this stuff. all those things should happen and do it handin things should happen and do it hand in hand. so airport expansion only works when you make sure that you don't increase your carbon footprint at the same time , if you don't at the same time, if you don't do these things , we're not going do these things, we're not going to reach net zero by 2050. >> but what about just on your point of this green aviation fuel, which would use a lot of fields and, you know, don't they use it from crops and things like that? the worry is people will grow this instead of food . will grow this instead of food. >> well, i mean, that's that's swapping one thing to destroy another. >> well, yes. >> well, yes. >> i mean, i'm not quite sure how that would work. but the point really is that if we're serious about it, if we're not serious about it, if we're not serious about it, if we're not serious about about net zero, then everything we're doing is just doesn't matter. but if you

believe it's important to hit the target , there are going to the target, there are going to be various costs to doing that. you know , it will be things like you know, it will be things like you'll find a wind farm outside your front door. no one's going to like it's something. to like it, but it's something. well but it's something that that will have to happen. >> they also kill animals. >> they also kill animals. >> so we've had. well, yeah, but if keep saying , oh we if we if we keep saying, oh we can't have this, it's a bit like ulez that we to get to net ulez that we want to get to net zero but we don't want to pay for it. and and all the way through that we are , all of us through that we are, all of us are going to have to pay for it. the government and us as individuals, us as country. individuals, us as a country. >> dubai and india and >> well, dubai and india and other bothering other places won't be bothering with you with that. but what do you think? i mean, nigel will be >> well, i mean, nigel will be very hear that very pleased to hear that there's not a hope in hell of rishi ditching the drive rishi sunak ditching the drive to to to net zero. we're committed to net through domestic net zero through domestic legislation . we're committed to legislation. we're committed to net through the paris net zero through to the paris accord. we're committed to net zero through the trade and cooperation agreement, which is an international treaty that we signed with the european union. >> there are very specific

targets. >> this government has to meet by certain dates in order to comply. >> now it can move around the edges of its target. rich reductions in emissions, but it can't actually get off the conveyor belt to net zero by 2050. not without parliament going into a complete meltdown and are ineffect , ual, weak and are ineffect, ual, weak government having to break international treaties of which there is not a hope in hell. so but don't lots of other countries break international treaties? well, absolutely . treaties? well, absolutely. >> so why? >> so why? >> because we have a weak, ineffectual government that is scared of the eu in as much measure as it wants to curry favour with the eu. there is no chance he's getting off this as as as as i speak. now, there is as as as i speak. now, there is a new energy bill going through parliament. >> yes. yes. >>- >> yes. yes. >> which will make it criminal. make, make all of us criminally liable . liable. >> that's my monologue, actually. yeah. is it? >> if we do not comply with the terms of that bill, which include making our homes

compatible with the targets set out by the government by 2027, we got to get homes up to an epc , an energy performance certificate rating of c , and by certificate rating of c, and by 2030, an energy performance certificate rating of b, the cost of doing that and the vast majority of buildings in this country do not comply with either targets . the either of those targets. the cost of doing that is massive live and the cost and burden on the british people. while we've got cost of living crisis is got a cost of living crisis is just ridiculous . just ridiculous. >> but but but rishi sunak is pausing this you know he's ignonng pausing this you know he's ignoring the s.s.c, which is his climate committee advice you may not be able to do because he's going to risk legal statutory . going to risk legal statutory. >> it's a statutory body set up by boris johnson, wasn't it? yeah. and so he really does have by boris johnson, wasn't it? ye take.nd so he really does have by boris johnson, wasn't it? ye take advice re really does have by boris johnson, wasn't it? ye take advice from lly does have by boris johnson, wasn't it? ye take advice from them.3s have by boris johnson, wasn't it? ye take advice from them. and ve by boris johnson, wasn't it? ye take advice from them. and if�* to take advice from them. and if he turns it down, there could be a legal challenge. so there there's not really a so this is really interesting. >> this is the climate change committee was created committee that was created pursuant climate change pursuant to the climate change act. and the committee is one of those so—called

tells appointed position often to make decisions for the british people to an unelected body of people a committee. body of people on a committee. the committee should be abolished. no place for abolished. there's no place for this committee in the united can actually for actually blame boris johnson for that no, i'm it that because no, i'm afraid it isn't. he some of the things. >> so he didn't he set up this whole sort of this climate change act and things like , no, change act and things like, no, this brown and the this is gordon brown and the carbon budget, which was put into law by boris johnson . into law by boris johnson. >> do we come back, come back to the real issue that we started with, which is if we want airport expansion , we airport expansion, which we probably how do we get there probably do, how do we get there and keep within our 2050 targets? >> well . that's the point, >> well. that's the point, nigel. we scrapped the targets. we that's the point . what we've we that's the point. what we've got is economic reality coming into direct conflict with this economic emasculation that is thatis

economic emasculation that is that is net zero. and it's really interesting reading the government ministers comment on it. it says , can't work out. can it. it says, can't work out. can i just say that? yes. is so the department of transport spokesman for the government said airport growth and the aviation sector as a whole has a key role to commitment to expanding heathrow . now, for the vast majority of my life, i understood heathrow airport was the most busy airport in the world. it allowed the united kingdom to be front and centre on the global stage . and centre on the global stage. it is now eighth in the world behind a whole load of airports, including some in the middle east and far east. it we need a third runway. well, well, let's find out what you think. >> i mean, are we too going far with this zero? it time? with this net zero? is it time? i if only we could get out i mean, if only we could get out of can't we? things of this and why can't we? things the don't really the british public don't really want with it all the

want to go along with it all the way it's going. what do you think? we how can we think? how can we how can we navigate zero navigate net zero gbviews@gbnews.com. love gbviews@gbnews.com. i'd love to hear thoughts . get in touch hear your thoughts. get in touch as well. you can also tweet us at gb news. if you just joined me, ben habib and nigel nelson are going head to head on this next migration. next story. it's migration. french president macron french president emmanuel macron is get a taste of is beginning to get a taste of his own medicine over migrants. now revealed in the now it's been revealed in the express today that express newspaper today that migrants from french speaking countries like morocco, algeria and tunisia are using british visitors visas to sneak into france . now, the route through france. now, the route through britain has been described as a complete scandal, all with accusations that britain is being used to facilitate smuggling . i remember when i smuggling. i remember when i said something like that, i think i literally got lynched . think i literally got lynched. so once in france, it's been alleged that these migrants can then jump into the back of lorries and make their way across europe. now the news comes as gb news revealed today 21,000 people have crossed the engush 21,000 people have crossed the english channel in small boats so far this year. so ben , nigel, so far this year. so ben, nigel, what do you make of that ?

what do you make of that? >> i love to see an >> well, i would love to see an exodus of people united exodus of people from the united kingdom heading across the channel to france to give them a genuine of their own genuine taste of their own medicine afraid this medicine. but i'm afraid this doesn't even begin to compare to the problem we're facing. you know, illegal migrants coming from france. first of all, it's only 22 people. second of all, they start it's a start. it's a good start . it's a good start . good start. it's a good start. it's a good start. >> so the boat started. >> so the boat started. >> but but but that's what we thought it was only 22 people. >> the other salient point to note here is that these people entered united kingdom entered the united kingdom legally. know who they are. legally. we know who they are. they have passports . we know they have passports. we know their they've gone their background. they've gone through visa check system. through our visa check system. so basically law so they're basically law abiding, sensible human beings. what what we do, we do not what we what we do, we do not have anything like that clarity on the people coming from france to the united kingdom. they've chucked all their papers away. they've arrived france they've arrived in france illegally , crossing into the illegally, crossing into the western balkans, greece and

italy from northern africa and the middle east. completely different problem. well, it could become a thing, i could become a thing, but i noficed could become a thing, but i noticed we've managed to noticed that we've managed to process 2000 applications a week 110w. now. >> the home office, which begs the question as to why they couldn't that sooner. but couldn't do that sooner. but nigel, what's your view on? well, particular one, well, on this particular one, this is without doubt, this is this is without a doubt, this is this is without a doubt, this problem in this is a french problem in exactly the same way that migrants who travel through france to get to calais , to come france to get to calais, to come to this country are a british problem, which is why the french behave the way they do. >> so it would be quite amusing if the french now decided that these people ought to come back to britain on the basis that we're a safe country. >> well, i'd be very happy to take them back if france would pay take them back if france would pay us half £1 billion as we've paid them control their borders. >> well, at the moment, with 22, we wouldn't actually need that. but 40,000 visas been but 40,000 visas have been issued to algerians, moroccans. tunisie aliens from french speaking countries who find it difficult to get into france . it difficult to get into france. it could become a bigger problem .

could become a bigger problem. but i mean, obviously we've found ways of controlling people coming over the channel by lorry and as a result, that's why they're coming over by boat. >> well, that's because we do the job that france should be doing, which getting all the doing, which is getting all the details, them details, processing them properly. when do properly. and then when they do go they are. go back, we know who they are. >> mean, as ben said, >> well, i mean, as ben said, these people are coming here legally that legally in the sense that they're getting they're getting legitimate visitors visas to come to this country. >> could do some sort of processing people are processing with people who are coming their country. coming on to their country. so all camps all the people in these camps and they could be doing and stuff, they could be doing something just something there. and they just seem allow to language something there. and they just seerallowllow to language something there. and they just seerallowllow leave. nguage and allow them to leave. >> well, and if they if they ask for france, they will for asylum in france, they will be in france. if be processed out in france. if they're just travelling through to calais, they're on their way to britain and hence why we have the but essentially the problem. but essentially that makes it of that makes makes it more of a british problem than it does a french one. >> always problem, >> it's always our problem, isn't no matter isn't it? it's always no matter which way round it is. nigel always comes back to us. it is actually a french problem. >> they have signed a bilateral agreement the united agreement with the united kingdom what goes on kingdom to control what goes on

on their beaches. we've paid them . we have committed to pay them. we have committed to pay and paid nearly £700 and have paid nearly £700 million for the benefit of that agreement. they should enforce that agreement and more boats are being thwarted from actually putting to sea than they were before. >> no, they're not. they are. >> no, they're not. they are. >> you don't have any you don't have any evidence? >> no, that's just that's just a declared statistic french. >> actually, it's a >> well, actually, it's a declared from the declared statistic from the british government. they're saying of launches have saying that 40% of launches have been foiled . it doesn't mean been foiled. it doesn't mean that that we agree with the way the french are letting the boats come towards our waters once they've put it out to sea. well, it's a bit a bit disgraceful. >> i think they're not really doing it. they want them to go. they're letting them go. they want our they want they they're letting them go. they want them they want they they're letting them go. they want them to they want they they're letting them go. they want them to go. they want they they're letting them go. they want them to go. they're nt they they're letting them go. they want them to go. they're letting them what's them go. and that's what's happening. listen, if you happening. well, listen, if you got a thought, we'd love to hear it. you're me. nana it. you're with me. i'm nana akua. gb news on tv, akua. this is gb news on tv, onune akua. this is gb news on tv, online radio. online and on digital radio. coming encouraged coming up, as tesco encouraged staff wear cameras. is staff to wear body cameras. is rising a consequence of staff to wear body cameras. is risircost a consequence of staff to wear body cameras. is risircost of a consequence of staff to wear body cameras. is risircost of living1sequence of staff to wear body cameras. is risircost of living crisis?1ce of staff to wear body cameras. is risircost of living crisis? andf our cost of living crisis? and don't in touch in

don't forget to get in touch in the ways. gb views the usual ways. gb views gbnews.com tweet gb gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. how would news. i'm asking you how would you the queen? but you commemorate the queen? but first, let's get some weather that feeling inside from that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vaucher here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. some cloud around for parts of scotland today and lingering along coastal lines. but for many of us, there is a fine amount of weather, so we have managed to enjoy will remain so as enjoy it. that will remain so as we this evening as we head into this evening as well. nice calm end to the day well. a nice calm end to the day for most, with some fog, for most, some with some fog, though, forming overnight, particularly for lincolnshire down areas down towards southeastern areas of england, be quite of england, could also be quite murky northern ireland, murky for northern ireland, southern areas scotland, as murky for northern ireland, southbut areas scotland, as murky for northern ireland, southbut aeas scotland, as murky for northern ireland, south but a fairly scotland, as murky for northern ireland, southbut a fairly mild land, as murky for northern ireland, southbut a fairly mild nightas well, but a fairly mild night for most of us. towns and cities running around 1314 c under running up around 1314 c under the lightest winds for northern ireland, northern england, we could drop into single figures. ireland, northern england, we coul(slightlyito single figures. ireland, northern england, we coul(slightly fresher.e figures. ireland, northern england, we coul(slightly fresher start jres. ireland, northern england, we coul(slightly fresher start to s. so a slightly fresher start to monday here. again, monday morning here. but again, once mist and fog once that early mist and fog does off, it does clear its way off, it should a fairly fine and

should be a fairly fine and sunny day for of us, quite sunny day for many of us, quite blustery coast the blustery around coast of the west but the strong west country. but the strong winds across the north be winds across the north will be easing a touch and the rain just mainly lingering across shetland. highlands, mainly lingering across shetl'hebrides highlands, mainly lingering across shetl'hebrides highla1ds, mainly lingering across shetl'hebrides high|a better inner hebrides seeing a better day monday compared to today day on monday compared to today with sunshine. temperatures with that sunshine. temperatures climbing glory. also climbing up into glory. also compared values compared to today's values widely mid high or 20s. widely in the mid high or 20s. and that high pressure is staying with us as we head into tuesday and we'll start tapping into flow of air into a southerly flow of air from continental europe as well. so will the so temperatures will be on the rise once again . a good amount rise once again. a good amount of sunshine to start tuesday of sunshine to start off tuesday . base cloud . a bit of higher base cloud around times may make the around at times may make the sunshine hazy in places and again still lingering some again still lingering along some coastal areas of scotland. but with that sunshine, as mentioned, temperatures climbing towards 30 c, something we haven't seen since the 7th of july by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news sponsors of weather on. gb news did you notice the scary fire map of the uk? >> because we're getting 30

degrees heat as if that's amazing. that's how it should be. you're with me. i'm nana akua this is gb news now coming up, has britain become a soft touch drugs ? now police only touch on drugs? now police only issue cautions for the first time drug offences and politicians don't seem to care about the rising drug culture. so you think we've too so do you think we've become too soft? next, as tesco soft? but up next, as tesco introduces body cameras for staff across the country, is the cost of living crisis to blame for a rise in crime

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thursdays from six till 930. >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 27 minutes after 3:00. we are the people's channel and nana akua . this is channel and nana akua. this is gb news. let's see what you've been saying. we've been discussing quite a few things. plant a billion. who's that? that's shane . shane says plant that's shane. shane says plant a billion trees to soak up the carbon cheap, super beautiful and far more effective than ulez. go with that net zero ulez. i'd go with that net zero or net zero in says net zero should be a global target with all nations reducing their carbon footprint in sync with each other on a percentage basis and not a unilateral zero date deadune and not a unilateral zero date deadline , which is impoverishing deadline, which is impoverishing our people against their will. exactly. no one's really going to follow up if you don't follow it. they're talking about criminal izing you. it's just ridiculous. mark marie the ridiculous. mark marie says the french this on french and this is on immigration. have no immigration. the french have no intentions of stopping the migrants . they let them walk migrants. they let them walk across country unhindered to across the country unhindered to get calais or dunkirk. then get to calais or dunkirk. then they turn a blind eye as they're

pushing dinghies into the channel. yeah, i've seen that. it's not good, is it? well if you just join me. welcome. it's just 27 minutes after 3:00. we're to head . we're going head to head. joining habib and also joining me, ben habib and also nigel nelson on the agenda after a rise in violent attacks, frontline staff at tesco stores across the country are being offered body cams. new figures reveal more than 200 of the supermarket's employees are the victims of serious physical assaults each month. so what on earth is going on? i mean, is rising crime just yet another consequence of our cost of living crisis? well, let's see what my panel make of that. i'm going with you, ben habib. >> well, i'm sure the cost of living crisis bound living crisis is bound to play a part in it, we've seen a part in it, but we've seen a collapse in in policing over the last 2 or 3 years, haven't we? and we've seen serious crime go up and we've seen almost the legalising, certainly the turning of a blind eye to what they define as low level crime and we have also seen an

increasing tolerance towards the misuse of or the use of illegal drugs . and of course, all these drugs. and of course, all these things are linked, aren't they? nana, you know, people who take drugs are unlikely to be in the workforce , are going to be workforce, are going to be struggling. they're to going go into they're going to go into supermarket pockets and try and get food. they and get free food. if they can. and if security if the if the if our security if the if the security in the supermarket is not up to it and our police force isn't up to it, they're going to be encouraged to continue to do those crimes again. >> but it's also everyday people who are struggling with the cost of because everything is of living because everything is so expensive. is. of living because everything is so but nsive. is. of living because everything is so but isive. is. of living because everything is so but i think is. of living because everything is so but i think there's a general >> but i think there's a general in increase criminal activity in increase in criminal activity across the board coming from a breakdown in policing . breakdown in policing. >> do you think that's so you think it's more a breakdown in policing rather than the cost of living or it's the breakdown in policing as a consequence? >> i think it's a confluence of everything's related. everything plays, plays into everything else , but it is a very sad state else, but it is a very sad state of affairs. you know, last year,

supermarket s spent an extra £1.7 billion effectively through what they call leakage, the theft of items from their supermarkets and, you know, the extra security that had to be £1.7 billion. that isn't money. the supermarket bits are soaking up. that's money. they're going to pass on to the consumer at. and the idea, for example, that , you know, when you report your car being burgled and the police say, well report it to your insurance company, the idea that that's crime that's a victimless crime because the insurance company pays up is a fundamentally flawed concept. the insurance company put everyone's company will put everyone's premium we all pay for this premium up. we all pay for this crime and we've got to stamp down on illegal use of drugs. we've got to stamp down on low level crime. and we've got to and we've got to make sure criminals understand that they will caught punished. will be caught and punished. well, already well, the police have already well, the police have already well, was a point well, i think there was a point where they said they weren't going bother with prosecuting going to bother with prosecuting people in in shops and things. >> but do you think now? >> but what do you think now? >> but what do you think now? >> with >> i think we're dealing with two is you're two things here. one is you're probably right that an element

of shoplifting to of shoplifting will be down to the of living crisis. it'll the cost of living crisis. it'll be people throwing an extra pack the cost of living crisis. it'll be biscuits throwing an extra pack the cost of living crisis. it'll be biscuits thrctheir an extra pack the cost of living crisis. it'll be biscuits thrctheir an e into pack of biscuits for their kids into into their bag rather than the rather into the trolley. but the bodycams are really for a different reason . what we're different reason. what we're also seeing where agree with also seeing where i agree with ben in just ben is this increase in just straightforward criminality and you've gangs going into you've got gangs going into supermarkets. saw one in my supermarkets. i saw one in my local supermarket two weeks ago and go in there a couple and they go in there a couple start a mock fight to distract everybody . another load of everybody. another load of people from the gang come in and clear off the expensive spirits from the booze shelves . and from the booze shelves. and those are the kind of things where if the staff try and intervene , they will get hurt intervene, they will get hurt and where the body cams might might become useful. but that's nothing to do with cost of living. that's to do with the fact that these people can get away it. they out away with it. they found out they as ben says, the they can. as ben says, the police not being called police are not being called often actually often enough to actually deal with more with it. and that's a more dangerous problem than just a granny who's dropping in a little bit extra into a basket .

little bit extra into a basket. >> yeah, but do you not think that the cost of living makes people do desperate things? >> mean, as ben has just >> well, i mean, as ben has just said, all these things are unked.| said, all these things are linked . i just don't think that linked. i just don't think that the particular this particular issue that we're talking about here, what the body cams are for is for just those people who are shoplifting because they really can't afford that extra couple of quid. >> no, i can imagine it is for everybody. but the bottom line is the bottom line, the question i asking, there will more i was asking, there will be more crime. i was asking, there will be more crirwell, be more >> well, there will be more crime there is a cost of crime if there is a cost of living crisis, you would expect there more crime overall. there to be more crime overall. >> answer is >> and the answer is a straightforward yes. >> thought you might say >> well, i thought you might say that. well, you think? that. well, what do you think? get touch, views get in touch, gb views at news.com, nana this news.com, i'm nana akua. this is gb and on gb news on tv, online and on digital radio on the way. a new report found britain's drug report has found britain's drug laws are outdated and need of laws are outdated and in need of reform. are to we soft on reform. so are to we soft on drugs? coming up next. drugs? that's coming up next. but now let's get your latest news with ray addison news headlines with ray addison

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news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua if you just joined me, welcome on board. and let's see what you've been saying. we've been talking about a lot of things, but on net and apologies the net zero and apologies if the sound and off, that sound was going on and off, that wasn't our fault. but wasn't actually our fault. but there was an issue. so for those of who in touch, let me of you who got in touch, let me know. delia says if know. thank you, delia says if other hit common other nations don't hit common net then we should net zero targets, then we should shop they stop. until they shop until they stop. until they catch up. david says we are a carbon based life form. carbon is for the planet and is good for the planet and planet life scrap net zero altogether for peter says net zero is very important. like all major society changes in the past, net zero will be painful for some, possibly profitable for some, possibly profitable for others. but in the long run it will be beneficial for everybody . yes, i think that's everybody. yes, i think that's what they said diesel. what they said about diesel. wasn't that was wasn't that i mean, that was supposed be that sold as supposed to be that was sold as some solution and some some great solution and some great but it turned out to great fuel, but it turned out to be satan. right be the spawn of satan. right well, let's move on. if you've just a found just joined me a report found that laws in the uk are that drug laws in the uk are outdated and in need of reform. now, the report from the home affairs committee away

now, the report from the home affai|consideringa away now, the report from the home affai|considering drug away now, the report from the home affai|considering drug usenay now, the report from the home affai|considering drug use as' from considering drug use as crime, though it still is. much is. instead, it focuses more on drug use as a sort of disease, almost as though people can absolve responsibility for using them . but as drug legislation them. but as drug legislation has swept across the world, is britain too soft on drugs or are our politicians too scared of addressing negative impacts that drugs have on our society? what are your thoughts? so let's welcome again to my panel former brexit party mep ben habib , and brexit party mep ben habib, and also gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. they're going head head . they're going head to head. nigel, i'll start with you. are too we soft? nigel, i'll start with you. are too ive soft? nigel, i'll start with you. are too i thinkt? nigel, i'll start with you. are too i think we're outdated . i >> i think we're outdated. i think that what is perfectly clear is that we are losing the war against drugs. we've been losing the war for decades, fades and yet we won't actually start finding a way of winning it. drug use should be a social and health problem rather more than a criminal problem, which is what the home affairs committee seem to be saying now, where do you go from there is the tricky bit. if you went the

whole hog , you could legally whole hog, you could legally seize all drugs and tax them. if you legalise cannabis. the tax take on that that based on, say, tobacco would be about £35 billion a year. well you say that, but you might want to offset that against the problems that that might cause. well, but the whole point is you'd have the whole point is you'd have the then to deal with the the money then to deal with the problem. you if you decide problem. so if you if you decide you'd because the you'd be more money because the problem be problem would probably be bigger. well, don't know bigger. well, we don't know that, i mean, people that, do we? i mean, the people don't alcoholics don't don't become alcoholics because go into the pub because they go into the pub every sunday lunchtime, but they do buy alcohol because can every sunday lunchtime, but they do tit's alcohol because can every sunday lunchtime, but they do tit's perfectlyzcause can every sunday lunchtime, but they do tit's perfectly legal. can and it's perfectly legal. >> why it? >> but why should it? >> but why should it? >> should alcohol be >> why should alcohol be perfectly shouldn't. perfectly legal? it shouldn't. and taxed. you say it shouldn't be. >> well, listen, if it were if alcohol were introduced today, alcohol were introduced today, alcohol would probably be illegal. it probably wouldn't be allowed. if we are going to allowed. so if we are going to update we go update things, we either go forwards or backwards. and if that were going that means if we were going forwards we decided to forwards and we decided to actually keep alcohol treat, treat, drugs in the treat, say, soft drugs in the same kind of way. >> then when we come onto on

>> now then when we come onto on to where tax to harder drugs, where your tax take much bigger. the take would be much bigger. the question then is whether or not the harm would actually cause more harm to make them more available. but what we should be doing is looking into it. i'm not suggesting we do it. i think we be looking into it to we should be looking into it to see a different way see if there's a different way of doing it, because clearly make criminal problem of doing it, because clearly make work criminal problem of doing it, because clearly make work. criminal problem doesn't work. >> do do you think do you >> do you do you think do you think it should be a criminal problem health problem? problem or a health problem? because is suggesting that problem or a health problem? becéit's is suggesting that problem or a health problem? becéit's a is suggesting that problem or a health problem? becéit's a criminanggesting that problem or a health problem? becéit's a criminal problem. that it is it's a criminal problem. >> all problems, >> and like all other problems, the it's like all the law. yes. it's like all other problems where the government the ability other problems where the go controlnt the ability other problems where the go control it the ability other problems where the gocontrol it instead the ability other problems where the gocontrol it instead of|e ability to control it instead of continuing to make the effort that they should make, they just surrender. i mean, the idea that this is a health problem, it's entirely self—inflicted. you know, we all know that drugs are bad for you. we know that. we know that marijuana is mind bending. we know that heroin is closely associated and indeed, all other drugs with crime. we're discussing earlier, you take it away from crime. >> if people could obtain it

without without getting it from organised criminals , you would organised criminals, you would actually stop the criminal market in it. >> heroin users will rob their own parents, their children of money in order to get the drug. that's how pernicious and awful heroin is to compare drug use with alcohol, which is which has beenin with alcohol, which is which has been in society for thousands of years. and has have and has reached a settled position within society . he is completely within society. he is completely wrong . when i when i when wrong. when i when i when i first came to london in 1987, i used to walk down the street. i never smelt marijuana, never. now i can hardly take a step down. the king's road without a waft of marijuana coming at me and i find it repulsive. apart from anything else, it stinks . from anything else, it stinks. >> but there's no logic. there's no logic in saying that you're against marijuana use , and yet against marijuana use, and yet you're in favour of alcohol use gate marijuana is not alcohol. >> marijuana is a gateway drug for bigger drugs, bigger criminality. >> it can be a gateway for

whisky. they're all whisky can then lead you into alcoholism . then lead you into alcoholism. >> but but the vast majority of people are not alcoholic. the vast the vast majority of people who take cannabis aren't addicts. >> so. so there is a comparison between the two. i think it's more difficult when we get to hard drugs, but certainly when it comes to cannabis , we just it comes to cannabis, we just seem have laws that don't seem to have laws that don't kind is why the kind of work, which is why the british medical association, the royal physicians, royal college of physicians, says are all saying says the police are all saying they don't want this to be a criminal problem they've criminal problem because they've lost and next they'll lost the battle and next they'll be saying it was unwinnable in the first place. >> they'll be saying >> well, next they'll be saying people allowed to >> well, next they'll be saying peoplknives allowed to >> well, next they'll be saying peoplknives because owed to >> well, next they'll be saying peoplknives because ,ned to >> well, next they'll be saying peoplknives because , frankly, carry knives because, frankly, you you need a knife to you know, you need a knife to cut onions. i mean, it makes no sense. >> stab people joint. so. >> stab people with a joint. so. >> stab people with a joint. so. >> you can and it would >> well, you can and it would probably probably probably hurt. you'd probably burn but look, just burn them. but look, i've just come your point you come back to your point that you made, comparing made, though, about comparing heroin i actually heroin and alcohol. i actually think they as bad as each think they are as bad as each other because if you've ever been anyone got been around anyone who's got a problem yeah, it's problem with alcohol. yeah, it's really these people will really bad. these people will destroy themselves. like really bad. these people will destsaid.1emselves. like really bad. these people will destsaid. they'll es. like really bad. these people will destsaid. they'll sell like really bad. these people will destsaid. they'll sell theirke really bad. these people will

destsaid. they'll sell their own you said. they'll sell their own granny their heroin. they granny for their heroin. they will the same. they'll sell will do the same. they'll sell their children the their own children for the alcohol. same thing i and i. and i see these actually , i would see these as actually, if were to bring heroin and if you were to bring heroin and alcohol now it probably alcohol out. now it probably wouldn't be legal. >> it may not. but we've had thousands of years reaching a settled position alcohol settled position with alcohol and the vast majority of alcohol drinkers don't reach the stage. ihave drinkers don't reach the stage. i have actually, but i'm sure the vast majority of heroin users probably don't. >> i think they do. >> i think they do. >> i think it's virtually impossible that, though you don't know that, don't know don't know that, we don't know how using in comparison. >> if you this is my point >> if you did, this is my point of a proper investigation to find i think hard find out. as i say, i think hard drugs a whole different drugs is a whole different thing. but are heroin thing. but there are heroin users addicts. users who aren't addicts. you can soft and what is can use what is soft and what is a hard drug because some some forms of marijuana. >> i mean, would draw >> i mean, where would you draw the forms of the line? some forms of marijuana high i marijuana are so high in thc. i think it is that or they've been grown that they grown in such a way that they are and their are hallucinogenic and their mind bending and how do come mind bending and how do you come how which how do you decide which one's soft because you're soft and hard because you're back health problem. back then to a health problem. >> actually looking, >> you're then actually looking, but nobody's forcing these

people them. people to take them. >> you are addicted to >> so if you are addicted to something, it health something, why is it a health problem when the addict? problem when you are the addict? thatis problem when you are the addict? that is your problem. i feel like i'm talking myself into saying health problem . saying it's a health problem. >> you are. i think i. >> ..- >> yes, .._ >> yes, but you i. >> yes, but you know. >> yes, but you know. >> but but because you cannot >> yes, but you know. >> baddiction:ause you cannot >> yes, but you know. >> baddiction in|se you cannot >> yes, but you know. >> baddiction in so you cannot >> yes, but you know. >> baddiction in so thatcannot >> yes, but you know. >> baddiction in so that in1not help addiction in so that in itself is a mental health problem, which has physical symptoms. but but that could be on anything. you could be addicted to anything. >> i mean, that's too forgiving. that's to take away personal agency that addiction is agency to say that addiction is agency to say that addiction is a issue. addiction is a health issue. addiction is self inflicted. we all have the ability to become addicts to something and some people. but it's the vast majority of people that's not true. the vast majority of people make an effort to have a clean life. i don't see why we, the taxpayer, should be bailing people should be bailing out people who've wilfully decided to become drug addicts. >> might argue that >> well, people might argue that their actually their addiction is actually beyond will because beyond their will now because people , look, i see. people i mean, look, i see. i see both addicts, once they're addicts, is beyond their will. >> but i mean, using using ben's argument and we wouldn't treat bungee hospital

bungee jumpers in hospital because willingly jumped because they willingly jumped off so if you argue off a mountain. so if you argue there is an argument to say that if injured, they should if they get injured, they should have treated under their have to be treated under their insurance policy and by the insurance policy and not by the nhs. wouldn't treat nhs. so you wouldn't treat bungee jumpers? >> well, wouldn't. mean, >> well, i wouldn't. i mean, it's extreme sport, by the way. extreme sport are on most insurance policies is excluded. and unless you specifically get permission to do that extreme sport, you know people are alive to the risks of it. >> but but anyway, back to the main subject is that doctors should treat people who are ill. and if you are if you've become an addict, whether or not you've chosen to the drug that chosen to take the drug that makes an addict first makes you an addict in the first place, mentally and place, you are mentally and physically ill and should be treated. >> so you think then, with >> so do you think then, with that mind nigel, too that in mind, nigel, are we too soft on drugs then and on people who are, you know, so because we let people off and, you know . let people off and, you know. >> well then no is the short answer because because constantly sending them to court is not going to cure addiction. >> well, it might work for some people. >> we're way too soft on drugs.

we're way soft on crime. >> we're way too soft on drugs. we're way too soft on crime. >> we're way too soft on drugs. we're way too soft on illegal immigration and bungee jumping. we're too soft on enforcing we're way too soft on enforcing our borders. way soft our borders. we're way too soft on giving in to this nonsense about ethnic minorities needing promotion , diversity, equality promotion, diversity, equality and inclusion . we're way too and inclusion. we're way too soft on the vast majority of issues where we need a government to start strong government to start being strong and unless and until this country gets a government that actually believes the actually believes in the country, british country, puts british national interest first, has zero interest first, has a zero tolerance crime , promotes the tolerance to crime, promotes the private sector , enforces our private sector, enforces our borders, until we get to that point, this country is going to really suffer. >> but would you not take on board that there >> but would you not take on bcani that there >> but would you not take on bc an element that there >> but would you not take on bc an element where hat there >> but would you not take on bc an element where ift there >> but would you not take on bc an element where if youere >> but would you not take on bcan element where if you are is an element where if you are an addict, that that is there is an addict, that that is there is an element health problem there? >> eventually, of course , it is >> eventually, of course, it is a health problem because if someone's self inflicted health problem, mental problem, but if it's a mental illness within your mind that you have an addictive nature, i think off think that's letting people off the you think so? >> you think so? >> you think so? >> letting people off the >> it's letting people off the hook. mental grip hook. it is a mental get a grip stiff a grip stiff upper lip and get a grip of yourself. >> addiction a ofyourself. >> addiction a a of yourself. >> addiction a a mental >> addiction is a is a mental illness, but has but has the physical and

physical symptoms. and obviously, an obviously, if, say, you're an alcoholic, kill alcoholic, alcohol will kill you. but you've got there because you have a mental problem. because you have a mental pro it'sn. because you have a mental pro it's difficult because i can >> it's difficult because i can see both sides of this. i have to be honest with you, i to be honest with you, because i can because met can understand because i've met people addiction can understand because i've met people so addiction can understand because i've met people so i addiction can understand because i've met people so i get addiction can understand because i've met people so i get it. ddiction can understand because i've met people so i get it. buttion can understand because i've met people so i get it. but then issues. so i get it. but then i also see the side that actually i'm not an addict because i'm focussed on what i want, but then i might be an addict to something which something else, which is focusing what so focusing on what i want. so i think if people could think perhaps if people could exchange that addiction for something good, like something that's good, then like going the gym, the gym going to the gym, the gym addict. too can be addict. but even that too can be fast. addicted that fast. i get so addicted on that as so can you then but you >> so can you then say, but you never a crime because never committed a crime because you gym too much? you go to the gym too much? well, you know, maybe not. >> ultimately that could be >> but ultimately that could be a state, is a kind a mental state, which is a kind of that addictive of mindset that is an addictive personality, that personality, which means that anything you of get stuck anything you kind of get stuck on, addicted. is, sure. >> it's a $- $— ? it's a it's a positive >> but it's a it's a positive way to give effect to an addictive personality . you know, addictive personality. you know, you've chosen a route that isn't harmful to society , i.e. taking harmful to society, i.e. taking drugs, ending up in gangs, criminal activity , robbing

criminal activity, robbing people. that's all destructive . people. that's all destructive. it doesn't have to be any more harmful than an having a drink. >> i mean, it doesn't have to be any more harmful to society, but it you're looking for it is what you're looking for is harmful it is what you're looking for is har now. you're almost now >> now. you're almost now absorbing as though it's absorbing alcohol as though it's not what i'm not harmful. know what i'm saying more harmful to saying is no more harmful to society than having drink. >> clearly, if you drive would be more harmful to society be no more harmful to society than drink. than having a drink. >> they're drugs. there's >> they're taking drugs. there's no reason if it was treated no reason why, if it was treated differently and wasn't against the why should be any the law, why it should be any more harmful than having a drink. clearly you've got to test it in drivers, whether you're drinking i've got test it in drivers, whether you'rein'inking i've got test it in drivers, whether you'rein yourg i've got test it in drivers, whether you'rein your system. got drugs in your system. >> well, i don't know. well are we too soft? what do you think? at home? vaiews@gbnews.com i see both sides of this one. i think it's a tricky one. i can't come to a decision here. but finally, this week marks the first of the death first anniversary of the death of elizabeth. the second of queen elizabeth. the second today been announced that today it's been announced that a new will consider new committee will consider proposals for permanent proposals for a permanent memorial a national legacy memorial and a national legacy program. that will recognise program. now that will recognise the queen's life of service. the committee will consider suggestions from the public and

final plans the national final plans for the national memorial unveiled in a memorial will be unveiled in a couple years time in 2026, couple of years time in 2026, all which to coincide with all of which to coincide with what would have been the queen's 100th so ben and 100th birthday. so ben and nigel, what do you think? how should we commemorate the late queen? what do you think, ben? >> think should >> well, i think we should definitely commemorate and cast her into eternity through her through a memorial, a set of memorials is i think a statue is a very good place to start. and you know, it's interesting to me that we're having this discussion because there's a whole group of people , including whole group of people, including our mayor of london, who would wish to remove statues from the past that inform us of prior great people and here we are considering how we give effect it to them. you know , it to them. you know, effectively instilling in our memories this wonderful queen that we had for over 70 years. and we should learn from it what we do now for the queen will inform future generations , just inform future generations, just

as we're informed by statues of cecil rhodes or winston churchill or or that slave trader in in in bristol. churchill or or that slave trader in in in bristol . and we trader in in in bristol. and we must understand the continuity of history and our the sort of our understanding of our place in the world and in the united kingdom that comes to us through these memorials. so i'm very glad we're doing it for the queen. i think we must it. queen. i think we must do it. and we need to preserve and i think we need to preserve the of all our great and the statues of all our great and good came before us. good that came before us. >> never know. >> well, you never know. somebody this somebody might get hold of this and they've got links and say, no, they've got links to has to come and say, no, they've got links to you has to come and say, no, they've got links to you knowhas to come and say, no, they've got links to you know howo come and say, no, they've got links to you know how weyme and say, no, they've got links to you know how we are down. you know how we are referencing edward colston? down. you know how we are refe edward edward colston? down. you know how we are refe edward colston, colston? down. you know how we are refe edward colston, there's’ down. you know how we are refe edward colston, there's going >> edward colston, there's going to what we're to be statues. but what we're talking is the talking about here is the lasting which is also lasting legacy, which is also something to as a memorial to her. to see queen her. i'd like to see queen elizabeth riding that elizabeth riding schools that she horses, some riding she loved horses, some riding school set up for disadvantaged children to experience the pleasure that they would get from being around horses the same way the queen was . same way the queen was. >> i mean, that's that's a lovely gesture. but again, some of those people had links to

of those people who had links to slavery they did slavery or whatever, they did some as well. and some good things as well. and still their statues are being pred still their statues are being ripped like to ripped down. so i would like to see that people can stop doing this and allow our history to sort evolve. sort of evolve. >> agree with that. i >> well, i agree with that. i mean, don't believe in pulling mean, i don't believe in pulling down of slavers. it down the statues of slavers. it doesn't i therefore agree doesn't mean i therefore agree with . with slavery. >> agrees with >> well, nobody agrees with slavery. ultimately but it was a trade at time and it was a trade at the time and it was a part of our time. and people seem to retell the history of slavery you slavery as though, you know, people africa and took people went into africa and took the away they the black people away and they weren't slavery weren't in fact, slavery was happening within africa before they and still they got there. and it's still going still going going on in africa. still going on. i think it's over on. in fact, i think it's over 700,000 slaves are there and at the time slave trade, the time of the slave trade, which what i understand which is what i understand as i've it in i've read a lot about it in history, a lot of the history, that a lot of the black chiefs whatever their chiefs or whatever brought their people to the water's edge or the then sell these the coast to then sell these people to the owners. i people to the slave owners. i don't even think the slavers came. slave owners came into the into country as a whole. into the country as a whole. so people to understand and people need to understand and when talking about when we're talking about reparations, if people really want reparations , they want to go to reparations, they need and read the history.

need to go and read the history. and then go back to the very place probably be place which would probably be africa. you're africa. and i don't think you're going there. so good going to get much there. so good luck but listen, i've luck with that. but listen, i've got you very much got to say thank you very much to and nigel. they'll be to ben and nigel. they'll be joining the next hour joining me in the next hour because to come, the great because still to come, the great british debate going british debate i'm going to be asking, trust to asking, who do you trust to fix broken that is, of broken britain? that is, of course, if you believe is course, if you believe it is broken. plus, monologue. are broken. plus, my monologue. are we towards a net zero we heading towards a net zero nightmare? on as nightmare? stay tuned on that as well. messages well. keep all your messages coming . i well. keep all your messages coming. i have a very well. keep all your messages coming . i have a very exciting coming. i have a very exciting mystery who will be mystery guest who will be joining me at 5:00. he one joining me at 5:00. he is one of my ever djs of all time . my faves ever djs of all time. let's read a couple of your messages here. amber says the only a legal drugs are so only reason a legal drugs are so potent because they're potent is because they're illegal. for example, moon shine and prohibition legalised sale and prohibition legalised sale and use overnight destroy the gangs. that's what she thinks . gangs. that's what she thinks. but what do you think? we've still got time for you to get your thoughts in gbviews@gbnews.com. don't forget, can stream the forget, you can also stream the show live on youtube. and we've actually reached over a million subscribers, so make sure you join us there. but first, let's get your latest weather .

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return to the dark days of school lockdowns. writing in the sun on sunday, the education secretary keegan, said secretary gillian keegan, said the choice but the government had no choice but to the full or partial to order the full or partial closure of more than 100 schools and . labour planning and colleges. labour is planning to force a vote to compel the prime minister to publish a list of all schools at risk. >> shadow education secretary bridget phillipson says the government should have acted soonen 5001191'. >> soonen >>i soonen >> i appreciate that lots of parents across country will parents across the country will be because as you be concerned because as you know, sadly many children are not going be able to return not going to be able to return to be moved to education or will be moved into portacabins alternative into portacabins or alternative accommodation of the accommodation because of the risk that this kind of crumbling concrete is going to pose. it all feels last minute. and all feels very last minute. and what we're calling on the government to do is to publish a full list of the schools full list of all of the schools affected parents can be affected so that parents can be confident about the confident about where the problems and not problems are. and if they're not prepared we will prepared to do that, we will force in parliament this force a vote in parliament this week to make it happen. >> however, davis, the >> however, gareth davis, the exchequer the exchequer secretary to the treasury, defended the treasury, has defended the government's actions, saying everything done to everything is being done to protect students. obviously this is incredibly serious.

>> concern thing, but >> it's very concern thing, but most people in this country will not be affected by this. parents will be told by their schools first and foremost that whether they're impacted, if parents watching this have not heard from their schools by the opening of schools, they should proceed to the school normal proceed to the school as normal . well, that's been our priority . the education secretary will be making a statement, though, later this week in the house of commons. >> the number of people crossing the channel in small boats has hit a new daily record for this yean hit a new daily record for this year, 872 migrants in 15 dinghies were intercepted yesterday, with at least another two small boats making it to the uk waters today. gb news can reveal the total number of people entering the country illegally has now passed 21,000 so far this year. the chancellor has renewed his pledge to half inflation, saying it's time to see the job through. speaking ahead of the next bank of england announcement on september the 21st, jeremy hunt insisted the government is on track to reach the target this

yeah track to reach the target this year. labour is accusing him of being completely out of touch with reality and the realities faced by families across the country. it comes as the latest figures show the uk economy recovered from the pandemic faster than expected . faster than expected. >> the boss of tesco is urging the government to make abuse or violence towards retail workers an offence. >> writing in the mail on sunday, chief executive ken murphy says he's been forced to increase security measures and has offered staff body cams . has offered staff body cams. physical assaults against tesco workers have risen by a third over the past year. he says it's unacceptable and has described the impact on staff as heartbreaking . heartbreaking. >> a red weather alert has been issued for parts of spain. >> a storm sweep across the country. a resident in alcanar on the east coast have been told to stay inside as water floods the streets in the capital. madrid's mayor has advised the same with torrential rain forecast over the next 12 hours. one person has died and tens of

thousands are stranded at the burning man festival in the united states. >> authorities have closed access in and out of the site in the black rock desert because of heavy rain in nevada. well festival goers have been asked to conserve food and with to conserve food and water with local reports suggesting up to 70,000 people are stranded . and 70,000 people are stranded. and more rain is forecast for the next few days, prompting to some leave the event on foot. they have been trekking to the nearest highway . north korea have been trekking to the nearest highway. north korea has carried out a simulated tactical nuclear attack. according to state media. the drill included two long—range cruise missiles carrying mock nuclear warheads , carrying mock nuclear warheads, government television channel rt says it was designed to warn enemies that the country is prepared if there's a nuclear war. it comes after pyongyang vowed to bolster military deterrence against washington and seoul . deterrence against washington and seoul. the public will be consulted on plans for a permanent memorial to the late queen. nearly a year after her

death organised by an independent committee, the tribute will consider queen elizabeth's life of public service and the causes she supported. it will also include a national legacy programme and will be unveiled in 2026. on what would have been her 100th birthday. royal pageant master bruno peak says it needs to be a huge event . huge event. >> memorial should be not just uk wide but commonwealth wide and something that could be organised every year as well, not just a statue , but something not just a statue, but something that could be organised, that could bring people together every year in memory of this wonderful, wonderful person. i'll be back with headlines at half past . half past. >> now it is over to nana. >> now it is over to nana. >> good afternoon. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. nana. akua is just coming up to seven minutes

after 4:00 net zero. who would have thought that they would impose fines if you didn't comply ? so just like ulez in the comply? so just like ulez in the latest development, we could be fined and or criminalised if we don't go along with the upgrades that they're forcing us mainly at our own expense to make. sounds like somewhere familiar. china or russia, maybe on tuesday when mps come back from their six week break, the government's energy bill will be put before the commons and under the bill, ministers would be granted powers to create new criminal offences and increase fines. if you or i fail to comply with good old net zero. so say for example, you fall foul of regulations to reduce your energy consumption, you could face up to a year in prison and fines of up to £15,000. or if you fail to submit the correct information of what you're using, you could also be prosecuted for provision

of false information about energy efficiency or for the obstruction of an enforcement authority . is this a joke? authority. is this a joke? first, mostly we haven't agreed to how we should get to net zero, if at all. and frankly, most of the things that they have tried to impose like heat pumps and electric cars , do pumps and electric cars, do little to reduce carbon inefficiency , aren't or not inefficiency, aren't or not effectively resourced out. you see, it's all very well telling people to say buy an ev. and even if you can afford to do so, where are the charging points andifs where are the charging points and it's only the rich with driveways who can go down this road in any case. and even then they can't drive far on it. it's a bit like the gym club analogy. if every member turned up, there simply. for lack of compliance .

simply. for lack of compliance. to something where the scientist a criminal offence. this is an exceptional use of state power for a bit like the way we're forced to pay for the bbc tv licence. this proposed legislation needs full scrutiny . the only glimmer of hope on the net zero horizon is rishi sunak acas defiance of the ban on new airports. now he is apparently rejecting the climate change committee's formal advice to stop all airport expansion and those planning to upscale include 61'9 are locked up and could potentially lose our homes. there's nothing short of a dystopian nightmare . so before

a dystopian nightmare. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking who do you trust to fix broken britain? schools are told to close over crumbling concrete. the government have to ban machetes and zombie knives due to rising crime. i'm surprised they weren't banned before whilst public sector strikes rumble into yet another season. so who do you trust then? at 450 its worldview. we'll cross to los angeles with paul duddridge to get an update on donald trump's for race the 2024 election. he hold on to the election. can he hold on to the candidacy ? plus, russian candidacy? plus, russian journalist alexi veer will join us and give us the latest on the attacks in ukraine and the plans to moscow's military . to beef up moscow's military. then stay tuned, because at 5:00, it's this week's outside . 5:00, it's this week's outside. now. he's a fantastic, amazing . now. he's a fantastic, amazing. i remember him when i was young, an english radio dj writer and journalist. he got his first start in broadcasting all the way back in 1976. a familiar face on your tv and a familiar

voice on radio. so stay tuned to find out who he might be. that's coming up in the next hour. as even coming up in the next hour. as ever, tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email news dot com email gb views gb news dot com or at . gb news. right. or tweet me at. gb news. right. well, welcome again to my panel, author and broadcaster christine hamilton and also journalist danny kelly. right. so what are you laughing at? >> i don't know. why did you laugh when you saw my face? >> whenever you say danny's name, danny kelly headmistress. >> well, i like that. well, listen, i mentioned the bbc. i got it in early, so you might as well go for it. what do you think of this whole. people i think it's reasonable

to say that. >> i don't think people understood exactly the consequences of net zero. so when people and i famously i remember him famously saying, lend me your vote as your fingers are quivering over the conservative box to put across. if you're a labour voter, that is, to get brexit is, you know, to get brexit done. and there were so many things where people lent boris johnson and if anyone johnson their vote and if anyone lent vote 2019 lent him their vote over 2019 manifesto get net zero by manifesto to get net zero by 2050, i think the reality is hitting home. and if you'd have said to someone four years ago, if don't with if you don't comply with potential legislation , that will potential legislation, that will require you to implement certain gas reducing devices or whatever it is, because i don't know what it's going to look like, you potentially could go to prison and be criminalised for 12 months. think there needs to months. i think there needs to be a referendum talking about a 2019 manifesto, think now we 2019 manifesto, i think now we know what a net zero potentially looks like and the consequences . i think should put it to . i think he should put it to the people. . i think he should put it to the but ple. . i think he should put it to the but people might say that >> but people might say that about brexit, mightn't they? they might say that we didn't know like. we know what it looked like. we didn't realise what so

didn't realise what it was. so there a referendum there should be a referendum now we know what is. i mean, we know what it is. i mean, people could say that about almost anything. brexit >> referendum was >> the brexit referendum was a second wasn't second referendum, wasn't it? because had one back because we already had one back in whatever in 1970. whatever it was. >> is, we didn't >> my point is, we didn't know what be like. so what it was going to be like. so people danny's argument people with danny's argument there, a lot of people are saying what saying that we didn't know what to brexit. to expect with brexit. >> well, i knew what to expect. i knew what was voting for. i knew what i was voting for. the brexit, the problem with brexit, if we're down we're going off down that tributary just moment, tributary forjust a moment, is that hasn't delivered that it hasn't been delivered properly. but i mean, knew properly. but i mean, you knew perfectly well what you were voting for. >> well, i know i knew what i was voting for, absolutely. you know, unfortunately, know, but unfortunately, you could have. but but but what i'm saying to it. saying is the means to get it. have become somewhat like have become somewhat almost like a where you've a net zero thing where you've told something is a good thing, you with it, and then you go along with it, and then the that they're to the means that they're using to get doing get there and what they're doing in what you think. in it is not what you think. >> net zero. it just sounds like a really sort of catchy phrase, doesn't go net doesn't it? let's go for net zero. i don't think i think zero. and i don't think i think you're right. i don't think people exactly you're right. i don't think people meant. exactly you're right. i don't think people meant. is exactly you're right. i don't think people meant. is absolute:tly what it meant. it is absolute lunacy. to drive lunacy. we're going to drive ourselves down back to a of ourselves down back to a sort of flintstone style economy if we do thank goodness

flintstone style economy if we do sunak thank goodness flintstone style economy if we do sunak than we )odness flintstone style economy if we do sunak thanwe are.ess rishi sunak well, we are. >> you're going to have barney rubble stones rubble for net steel and stones for at last, i rishi >> and at last, i mean rishi sunakis >> and at last, i mean rishi sunak is finally grasped the nettle about airport expansion. sunak is finally grasped the nmean, bout airport expansion. sunak is finally grasped the nmean, bout a got�*t expansion. sunak is finally grasped the nmean, bout a got�*t ehave;ion. i mean, we've got to have airport we to airport expansion if we want to stay relevant in the modern world. talking of airports, world. and talking of airports, the who are campaigning the people who are campaigning madly for net zero people are like emma thompson. oh god, who who flies from los angeles to london to take part in an extinction rebellion demo in trafalgar square, £18,000. she paid, apparently for a first class ticket. and she says , i'm class ticket. and she says, i'm too old to travel. economy her carbon footprint or her bottom print . travelling first class. print. travelling first class. what is it? one first class person for the space of four normal ones. so that's times four. these are the hypocrites , four. these are the hypocrites, the people who go on and on about that. i mean, you've got. yes, i know she happens to be a recent thing again. she's a recent thing again. she's a recent all doing it. >> may i also just add that heathrow and the expansion, which is incredibly controversial for runway number three. her airport in three. oh, her airport in chicago has eight runways. it's

not uncommon in america to have main hubs with five, six, 7 or 8 runways or dubai and india. >> they are india , who we give >> they are india, who we give money to, who've just recently launched their space program and have landed a craft on the dark side which is a side of the moon, which is a great pink floyd album. remember that? album, that? it was a good album, wasn't know, they wasn't it? but you know, they they are expanding their airports. dubai are doing the same we putting same thing. why are we putting ourselves position where ourselves in this position where we're the ages? we're in the dark ages? >> america a much >> i mean, america is a much bigger have more bigger they do have more space in do a problem in america. we do have a problem with space in this country. but i think, as i understand it, one of yes, to expand of the plans is, yes, to expand heathrow, also expand heathrow, but also to expand some smaller airports some of the smaller airports southampton, some of the smaller airports southamptcthings like that. bristol and things like that. bristol and things like that. bristol airport, bristol is a great airport, by the it's our little local. the way. it's our little local. not that we fly very often, but when do trouble is with when we do the trouble is with net there's a massive net zero, there's a massive conflict interest between conflict of interest between the people to be part of people who want to be part of all this global good . do goodery people who want to be part of all tthe global good . do goodery people who want to be part of all tthe people ]00d . do goodery people who want to be part of all tthe people that. do goodery people who want to be part of all tthe people that it)o goodery people who want to be part of all tthe people that it impacts.ry and the people that it impacts. the people at the bottom of the heap who have to pay for all this dream. and the this net zero dream. and the idea that be if you're a idea that you can be if you're a landlord and you know you're not

a landlord, you're just somebody who's got 1 or 2 little properties it pays for your properties and it pays for your pension whatever. if you pension or whatever. and if you don't some certificate in don't get some certificate in time , et cetera. cetera, you time, et cetera. et cetera, you might slapped jail. time, et cetera. et cetera, you migiit's slapped jail. time, et cetera. et cetera, you migiit's ridiculous jail. time, et cetera. et cetera, you migiit's ridiculous. jail. it's. it's ridiculous. >> boris johnson, a lot of people want to bring back boris. although that ship sailed, boris johnson is to blame for a hell of of this. if you of a lot of this. if you actually stood, i think, behind quite his or his wife's quite a lot or his or his wife's girlfriend and then now wife that sense of the 2019 that in the sense of the 2019 manifesto zero the push for manifesto net zero the push for net boris johnson you net zero. boris johnson you mentioned cars earlier mentioned a leaky cars earlier on this this dream that on nana this this dream that we're all going to be able to charge our cars outside our homes. going to be homes. we're not going to be it's a pipe dream. it's garbage. but boris johnson 2000, but boris johnson in 2000, again, brought again, in 2019, actually brought forward by five years the eu wide ban on petrol and diesel cars. so the eu , the whole of cars. so the eu, the whole of europe is banning them in 2035. bofis europe is banning them in 2035. boris johnson maybe it was because of you rattling in his ear brought it forward five years, almost like some sort of brexit dividend. >> well, let's not forget, though, that a lot of this had its origins in 2009 with gordon

brown tony blair. brown and tony blair. so we can't just i know boris has done a lot there and i'm not happy with a lot of things that he enshrined law with regard to enshrined in law with regard to net zero and went along with it all. a lot of start all. but a lot of it did start with labour party as well. with the labour party as well. >> it started, as it >> wherever it started, as it were. is signalling were. it is virtue signalling basically by the global elite people outdo people who are trying to outdo each global stage each other on the global stage about thou when about i'm holier than thou when it to this. it's it comes to this. it's a religion. this this climate religion. now, this this climate change and net zero all this change and net zero and all this sort cheap rubbish will sort of yes, cheap rubbish will geddes all around the world, people us. people are laughing at us. >> ourselves. >> we're punishing ourselves. we're in our we're smacking ourselves in our faces with this zero drive. faces with this net zero drive. people are looking at us thinking, on are you thinking, what on earth are you doing think you're doing it for? i think you're such insignificant polluter. such an insignificant polluter. >> are significant in >> well, we are significant in the sense that we offsetting, sorry, insignificant pollution, significant . but sorry, insignificant pollution, significant. but i sorry, insignificant pollution, significant . but i know we are. significant. but i know we are. but we are insignificant . i but we are insignificant. i understood what you meant, but but we are insignificant. i un(aretood what you meant, but but we are insignificant. i un(are in d what you meant, but but we are insignificant. i un(are in significant. meant, but but we are insignificant. i un(are in significant. ifeant, but but we are insignificant. i un(are in significant. if wet, but we are in significant. if we just coming off just look at what's coming off this country. but what this country so we country is enticing. so we buy things china do things from china and china do it they are polluting on our it so they are polluting on our behalf where they we just behalf where they are. we just we just because we've

we just so just because we've destroyed manufacturing base destroyed our manufacturing base so make anything and so we don't make anything and we've outsourced another we've outsourced it to another country. all country. so then they have all the pollution . the pollution. >> offset our guilt, >> then we offset our guilt, don't outsource our guilt, don't we? outsource our guilt, make us good we're make us good because we're not making crazy. make us good because we're not ma the crazy. make us good because we're not ma the craziest crazy. make us good because we're not ma the craziest argument >> the craziest argument from people is people who disagree with us is the fact industrial the fact of the industrial revolution. so centuries ago we created the industrial revolution and that's why we should be punished . it's mental, should be punished. it's mental, but have great faith in should be punished. it's mental, blscience have great faith in should be punished. it's mental, blscience and e great faith in should be punished. it's mental, blscience and technology.i in is science and technology. >> for example, i am perfectly certain probably i shall be dead, but we will have fuel that is more environmentally is far more environmentally friendly to fly planes. >> well, that'd be great. i'm sure we will. well, we do have that sort of thing, but unfortunately what we do is we grow in fields those grow it in fields and those fields then stop fields will probably then stop growing manure, growing food, which is manure, which be problem. but if which will be a problem. but if you joined us, i was just you just joined us, i was just coming up to 18 minutes after 4:00. is gb news on tv, 4:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and digital radio. i'm online and on digital radio. i'm nana up, it's time online and on digital radio. i'm na|the up, it's time online and on digital radio. i'm na|the great up, it's time online and on digital radio. i'm na|the great britishrp, it's time online and on digital radio. i'm na|the great british debate ime for the great british debate this hour. and asking who do this hour. and i'm asking who do you fix broken britain you trust to fix broken britain 7 you trust to fix broken britain ? first, let's an update ? but first, let's get an update with weather .

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just mainly lingering across shetland. highlands, the shetland. so the highlands, the inner seeing better inner hebrides seeing a better day compared to today day on monday compared to today with that sunshine. temperatures climbing . also climbing up a degree. also compared today's values, compared to today's values, widely or 20s. widely in the mid high or 20s. and that high pressure is staying with us as we head into tuesday and we'll start tapping into a southerly flow of air from continental europe as well. so on the so temperatures will be on the rise once again. good amount rise once again. a good amount of sunshine to start off tuesday. a bit higher base tuesday. a bit of higher base cloud around at times may make the in places and the sunshine hazy in places and again, along the sunshine hazy in places and again,coastal along the sunshine hazy in places and again,coastal areas along the sunshine hazy in places and again,coastal areas ascotland . some coastal areas of scotland. but with that sunshine, as mentioned, climbing mentioned, temperatures climbing towards 30 c, something we haven't seen since the 7th of july by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> now i do love that fire map of the one hot day that we've got coming up in this country. but on the way, it's world view. we're going to head over to los angeles moscow to get the angeles and moscow to get the latest what's there

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4:00. this is gb news. i'm nana akua and it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, who do you trust to fix broken britain? the conservatives and labour parties traditionally head to head traditionally go head to head come time, but neither come election time, but neither party is to claim party is poised to claim a decisive victory. and it could be naive to assume the lib dems and reform won't play a role in the next election . and in the next election. and in today's sunday telegraph , david today's sunday telegraph, david blunkett says that labour will need miracle get an overall need a miracle to get an overall majority. former labour mp chris mullin told gb news he doesn't think that the tories will be a majority either . and think that the tories will be a majority either. and in a poll in the sun, rishi sunak beat sir keir starmer to be more trusted on the economy. but emails to gb views shows a huge support for reform . meanwhile, school reform. meanwhile, school buildings are collapsing, rail workers are on strike. the government have banned things like machetes, which i thought they were banned anyway, and rising crime . the cost of living rising crime. the cost of living crisis continues to drain bank balances. we had i mean, let's look at the liberal democrat for

example. the last thing we remember them for was going back rowing back on the whole student loan issue and other parties reform, for example , are reform, for example, are untested. who do you trust? untested. so who do you trust? those are your options . so for those are your options. so for the great british debate this yean the great british debate this year, asking that question. year, i'm asking that question. i'm joined now by habib, i'm joined now by ben habib, former brexit party mep nigel nelson , senior gb news political nelson, senior gb news political commentator. neil parish tory, former mp and chair of the environment, food and rural affairs committee and affairs select committee and also norman baker, former liberal democrat minister. okay, i'm going to start sorry, i'm going to start with you, neil. the tories , i feel that they may the tories, i feel that they may be making some headway. labour party will hopefully well, potentially be the ones that lose. i don't want to show my colours on this one. so what do you think neil? what who do you trust ? trust? >> yeah. nana sort of. now being out of parliament for about a yean out of parliament for about a year, months and sort of year, 18 months and sort of looking back i actually looking back in, i actually think the british public must be absolutely confused because i think most of the problems that the tories have got are a lack

of management, a lack of of good management, a lack of getting properly, of good management, a lack of gett people properly, of good management, a lack of gett people are properly, of good management, a lack of gett people are pretty'operly, of good management, a lack of gett people are pretty fed rly, of good management, a lack of gett people are pretty fed up and people are pretty fed up with them. but if you actually look at the labour party alternative, there doesn't seem to a cigarette put to be a cigarette paper to put between the policies so between the policies and so i think it's going to be a very interesting election and i think there's still a chance that the conservatives, if they actually become more conservative, dare i say it, the economy appears to be a little bit stronger than we thought. but will there be an opportunity to allow a few tax cuts and try and stimulate the economy that way? it could be a much more interesting election than we think. but, you know, i actually rather fear that the pubuc actually rather fear that the public must be very confused over who's the right party to govern at the moment, i govern at the moment, because i don't really see a massive alternative, but can't say alternative, but i can't say that conservatives are exactly covered themselves in glory . covered themselves in glory. and, you know, this last latest school school debacle, it's not so much that the buildings are in very bad repair, but why on earth was it left right to the end before telling the schools?

and of course, i do actually agree with the labour spokesperson because i was trying to get a school in tiverton when i was the mp and that was shelved after the conservatives got into power. so she does have a point there. so you know, lots of things to be done out there, but i don't think there's much alternative at the moment to actually perhaps seeing a conservative government maintain. but you know , let's find out. we know know, let's find out. we know let's let's ask norman because norman baker, your former liberal democrat minister, have they got any hope of having any effect? >> the liberal democrats in the political vote swinging ? political vote swinging? >> well, i think they are in the sense that the by—election results in recent times have been very good for the lib dems and rather better, i might say, than for the labour party and for what it's worth, and i'm not saying this because i'm lib saying this because i'm a lib dem, think there's dem, but i do think there's a plausible show that it will likely hung parliament likely to have a hung parliament with having the with the lib dems having the balance because i don't with the lib dems having the balanlabour because i don't with the lib dems having the balanlabour can cause i don't with the lib dems having the balanlabour can climb i don't with the lib dems having the balanlabour can climb thatj't think labour can climb that mountain don't the mountain and i don't think the tories win where they

61'9. 619. >> are. >> but in terms of the economy, which is what you wanted me to, to again , i to reflect on nana again, i agree with your parish. >> there >> actually, there isn't a cigarette to use his cigarette paper, to use his phrase , between parties. phrase, between the two parties. and that is that and the reason for that is that the has adopted the labour party has adopted a policy of low risk of following a conservative on on everything basically. >> but just simply saying we'll do it better than the tories do. so there isn't really a choice for the public between the two main parties on that on that basis, know keir starmer basis, we know that keir starmer is risk and i suspect is risk averse and i suspect that reeves will continue that rachel reeves will continue as jeremy now. as jeremy hunt has now. >> don't think jeremy hunt is >> i don't think jeremy hunt is doing a particular brilliant job. >> i think he will do either, but that's where we are. so neil's right that there isn't really a great great choice. really a great a great choice. the dems have got the lib dems have got the gumption will actually use that position leverage to drive position to leverage to drive forward sensible and forward more sensible and coherent policies. but but, but, but. >> they will. but >> but i hope they will. but norman, what makes you think that democrats that the liberal democrats actually be the third actually will be the third party? actually will be the third par because they've there and >> because they've sat there and they've . i'm they've been there. but i'm going to benhabih going to come to benhabih because of people, when we because a lot of people, when we put polls out there, there

put the polls out there, there seems be lot of support for seems to be a lot of support for reform and rightly so. >> you know, if want to fix >> you know, if you want to fix britain for the in first britain for the in the first place, you have to believe in britain and you get the impression britain and you get the impreand1 britain and you get the impreand labour party britain and you get the impre and labour party that they party and labour party that they don't actually believe in this country. to rush back country. they want to rush back into eu or hitched at into the eu or stay hitched at the with the eu. they want the hip with the eu. they want economically emasculating net zero policies. both parties have open borders, both parties eschew the private sector and promote the state sector. both parties want to tax us to hell. neither party has the courage to cut red inflation's back or make national policy for british interest to fix britain, you've got to believe in britain and actually there's only one party that unashamedly believes in the united kingdom and that is the reform party. now, of course , reform party. now, of course, we're not going to win the next election , but we're going election, but we're going to make impact into both make a serious impact into both labour conservative votes , labour and conservative votes, and we're going to play a real pivotal role on how that how that election plays out. well norman seems to think that it'll probably be more likely to be

the democrats who have the liberal democrats who have more nigel, suppose may >> but nigel, i suppose you may well the tory well detract votes from the tory party. that ? party. there is that? >> nigel nelson well, i mean, i think that reform will some think that reform will do some damage tories, but that's damage to the tories, but that's probably . yeah, we're damage to the tories, but that's prla ably . yeah, we're damage to the tories, but that's prla stage . yeah, we're damage to the tories, but that's prla stage in . yeah, we're damage to the tories, but that's prla stage in the . yeah, we're damage to the tories, but that's prla stage in the electoral'e're at a stage in the electoral cycle where governments tend to get stale and run out of steam after about 13 years. it happened to thatcher, it happened to thatcher, it happened to thatcher, it happened to new labour and that's where we are with the tory party at the moment. so there will be a change. i do think there a possibility of think there is a possibility of a hung parliament and a coalition. certainly that's what the results would coalition. certainly that's what the shown, results would coalition. certainly that's what the shown, although lts would coalition. certainly that's what the shown, although the would coalition. certainly that's what the shown, although the polls have shown, although the polls are showing labour hugely ahead, the chances are they will close before the election and the last coalition government didn't do too bad a job. it certainly the lib dems stopped the tories doing some of the extreme things they would have done without them. >> but seriously , surely labour >> but seriously, surely labour party be clutching at party shouldn't be clutching at this hope that there'll be some sort after sort of coalition when after what's gone on with the tory party, you'd expect them to just simply take it. why are they? >> they should win a >> they should win by a

landslide. should >> they should win by a laanheye. should >> they should win by a laanhey should should >> they should win by a laanhey should be should >> they should win by a laanhey should be 1997ould be. they should be a 1997 landslide. but but the only vote, the only actual vote, we can local election can go on is the local election results . and although the tories results. and although the tories did badly there, it still did really badly there, it still showed you'd showed that if you'd extrapolated that to a national picture, it would have been a hung parliament. >> okay, well, listen, i'm going to ask you individually then, who do trust with the who do you trust with the economy? habib reform . uh, economy? ben habib reform. uh, nigel nelson labour. neil parish conservative under rishi and under rishi and norman because he's if you see in the opinion polls , he's a lot more popular polls, he's a lot more popular than keir starmer. >> and if you look at the 97 election, you'll find that tony blair was massively more popular than than john major. so there's a lot to be played for there. and >> norman baker, well, you'll be surprised if i say lib dems, but ihave surprised if i say lib dems, but i have to say that the most stable government in the last 3018 years has been the coalition. we always told coalitions weren't stable . coalitions weren't stable. actually, it lasted five years and there are a lot of good

things we hammered for it, things we got hammered for it, but a lot good things but we did a lot of good things in that that government. in that in that government. >> there won't be coalition >> there won't be a coalition after election. >> there won't be a coalition aftewe're election. >> there won't be a coalition aftewe're elec going there >> we're not going to go there again. but may well a again. but there may well be a supply arrangement with either party. >> interesting. listen, >> interesting. well, listen, thank your thank you so much for your thoughts. that's norman baker. he's democrat he's a former liberal democrat minister parish. minister and also neil parish. former chair in the former tory mp and chair in the environment food and rural affairs nigel affairs select committee. nigel nelson gb news, senior political commentator, and also ben habib, brexit . so what are brexit party mep. so what are your thoughts? who trust your thoughts? who do you trust with you've with the economy? you've actually seen all four parties. the potential hopefuls. they're saying what they think, but what do think? gb views do you think? gb views gbnews.com tweet me at gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. this is gb news. we're live on tv online and on digital radio on the way. it's this week's outside now. my guest today began his radio career in 1976 before he joined radio 1 in 1978 and quickly became one of the station's top hosts . more the station's top hosts. more recently, he's written the music and lyrics for six stage musical shows. so who is he? but first, let's get your latest news with aaron armstrong .

aaron armstrong. >> it's 433. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. parents are being told classroom closures due to crumbling concrete fears are not a return to the dark days of school lockdowns. writing in the sun on sunday, education secretary gillian keegan said the government had no choice but to order the full or partial closure of more than 100 schools and colleges . labour 100 schools and colleges. labour is planning to force a vote to compel the prime minister to pubush compel the prime minister to publish a list of all the schools at risk. the number of people crossing the channel in small boats has hit a new daily record for the year . 872 record for the year. 872 migrants were intercepted yesterday . another two small yesterday. another two small boats made it to the uk waters. today, gb news can reveal the total number of people entering the country illegally has now passed 21,000 this year. more the chancellor's renewed his pledge to halve inflation, saying it's time to see the job through. speaking ahead of the next bank of england

announcement on the 21st of september, jeremy hunt insisted the government is on track to reach the target this year. labour accusing though , labour is accusing him, though, of out of touch of being completely out of touch with realities faced by with the realities faced by families the country . and families across the country. and the boss of tesco is urging the government to make abuse or violence towards retail workers an offence. writing in the mail on sunday, chief executive ken murphy says he's been forced to increase security measures and offer staff bodycams physical assaults against tesco workers have risen by a third over the past year. more on all of our stories on our website, gbnews.com. now it's back to nana. >> thank you, aaron. well, this is gb news. now listen, coming up, my weekly world view on getting the latest from around the globe. we'll travel to russia and the united states. but next, we'll continue the great british debate i'm asking who do you trust to fix broken

britain? you'll hear the thoughts my panel, thoughts of my panel, broadcaster and author christine hamilton broadcaster hamilton and also broadcaster and danny

news. >> welcome back. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. if you just joined me, where have you been? it's 39 minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua. we are the people's channel and it's time now for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking who do you

trust to fix broken britain? the conservatives and labour party traditionally go head to head come election time, but with neither of them poised to claim a decisive victory, which is a surprise , really, frankly, for surprise, really, frankly, for the state, that the conservatives have left this country. and it would be naive, though, assume that the though, to assume that the liberal democrats reform liberal democrats and reform won't a key role in the won't play a key role in the next the next election. meanwhile, the state of the nation, you've got school buildings collapsing, state of the nation, you've got schlworkerinngs collapsing, state of the nation, you've got schlworkers on s collapsing, state of the nation, you've got schlworkers on strike. psing, state of the nation, you've got schlworkers on strike. ising, state of the nation, you've got schlworkers on strike. i mean, rail workers on strike. i mean, you know, the labor party are the ones who are usually the ones at hoc with the unions. the ones who are usually the ones at hoc with the unions . and ones at hoc with the unions. and if you remember back to many years ago when the liberal democrats a in, they democrats had a look in, they reversed their student loan reversed their old student loan situation and reformer untested. so what do you think? there's a cost of living crisis and it continues and it's draining people's bank balances, causing anxiety . those are our options. anxiety. those are our options. those four parties. so i'm asking, who do you trust to fix broken britain? well, let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by author and broadcaster christine hamilton and also broadcaster danny

broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. i did that on purpose . kelly. i did that on purpose. okay. i think i might have to come to danny kelly first if it was really interesting, your four panel discussion and someone highlighted about charisma, i'm paraphrasing now about the difference between john major and tony blair in 1997 and the difference between sir keir starmer by the way, he hates being called sir keir and you can understand why because a knighthood isn't necessarily a man of the people. >> very elitist, very non—labour don't just doesn't like it in >> he just doesn't like it in the context of this. okay >> rather we him >> but he'd rather we called him king. of you would. and king. of course you would. and we've keir starmer, who has we've got keir starmer, who has no we've rishi no charisma, and we've got rishi sunak who has charisma, but sunak who who has charisma, but not in abundance, not like boris johnson. charisma johnson. so charisma and personality play a part in personality may play a part in this. far as tony blair's this. as far as tony blair's success, tony blair understood in 1997 that socialism isn't going to win you an election. so he had to find a happy balance between and certain between capitalism and certain socialist policies and allies and allies. >> and it goes back to two of your panellists agreeing on the fact that you can't get a

cigarette paper, you can't get a paper between the two parties now, reform . now, reform. >> you're only going to damage the conservatives. but that is part what reform going to part of what reform are going to do. that's part of the raison d'etre because they think that there's with there's no conservatism with this by this conservative party. so by damaging just damaging them, that's just that's you like, that's just like, if you like, friendly that's just friendly fire and that's just the . that's the consequences. that's a punishment for not being conservative one your conservative enough. one of your other said other panellists said a coalition could success. coalition could be a success. oh, voted for tony oh, god, no. i voted for tony blair in 1997 and i could vote for keir starmer in 2014 or whenever the election is going to be. the natural lifespan is around about you could vote for keir starmer. why? i could because just think the tories because i just think the tories have and have had their opportunity and i think that somebody else a new set of eyes needs to look at things. this is the sort of things. but this is the sort of mentality and mindset that those who voted joe biden and people like we don't want that. >> so not trump anybody ? >> so not trump anybody? >> so not trump anybody? >> no, no, no, no, no. that's not— >> no, no, no, no, no. that's not what i've said. trump was a divisive figure who came out with things caught hot. >> but i'm comparing that to you've enough the tories you've had enough of the tories to for somebody else.

to just vote for somebody else. anything tories. to just vote for somebody else. anyi�*jing tories. to just vote for somebody else. anyi find tories. to just vote for somebody else. anyi find that tories. to just vote for somebody else. anyi find that extraordinary. >> i find that extraordinary. that's saying. quite that's what i'm saying. i quite agree. completely agree. i've completely lost faith tories and it's faith in the tories and it's very very difficult very it would be very difficult to vote for them. we've got the highest 70 years. highest tax burden for 70 years. they've the national they've doubled the national debt huge debt and we've got huge borrowing for what it borrowing for every what is it for every £9, for for every for every £9, for every the government spends every £10 the government spends , they get £9 tax. so they're , they get £9 in tax. so they're spending far more than they're getting. if they are mismanaging the economy. i know we've had covid and all that, but they were the ones who put us into this huge, expensive lockdown. et cetera. cetera. i et cetera. et cetera. but i don't trust labour any more to manage things any better. and i don't want socialist don't want a socialist government because don't government because i don't believe i believe in believe but i don't believe in socialism . socialism. >> but not jeremy corbyn. >> but not jeremy corbyn. >> but their instinct arts >> no, but their instinct arts are socialist, whereas the tory instincts instincts instincts and reform instincts and instincts are and ukip instincts are capitalists. they believe that the capitalist system works. and i just think that sir keir, let's give him his proper title . it is it is insulting to the queen not to use his property . queen not to use his property. no, i agree. if he wants just to be compared to turn it down to

keir hardie, the first working class labour mp, then fine. i'm sure that's why the title back of it isn't exactly sir keir. he is basically a socialist . is basically a socialist. >> he's not going to though, is he? because he, she's really going to a labour person. i mean that's what i think when that's what i think because when i laboun that's what i think because when i labour, labour i think of the labour, labour should represent working should represent the working class. but he doesn't represent the and actually the working class and actually what worries me about labour what worries me about a labour government they government is the fact that they are with the unions and are in hock with the unions and they are ultimately and this is we're seeing strike strike we're seeing strike after strike after playing out and after strike playing out and that be a concern me. that would be a concern to me. >> don't forget the strike of the when it, 1970s, the 19 when was it, the 1970s, when three days worth of when you had three days worth of electricity something? electricity or something? that was government ? yes. so was a labour government? yes. so it's not inconceivable that unions fall out with labour government . government. >> they have already on >> well, they have already on some zero. some people on net zero. ironically to be pretty old. >> sorry, pretty old to remember that, you know, this 1970s of discontent, the winter, you really do have to be pretty ancient to remember that. so i don't think people will cast a lot of voters will not younger

voters will not cast their minds back. but tories given back. but the tories have given us have given people who want instinctively to vote or they've given them no reason to vote. tory. they haven't behaved like conservatives. who are conservatives. so people who are conservatives. so people who are conservative with a small c, why would they vote for the tories ? would they vote for the tories? because basically got an because they've basically got an awful under the awful lot of socialist under the tories. you might as well vote for the real thing. but you're quite just quite quite right, just you're quite right. and right. it's charisma and leadership neither of them leadership and neither of them i have no confidence in either of them. what about get things them. what about to get things right? about right? what about reform? >> would like >> reform would be like supporting everton football club , who are bottom of the league more or less. i don't understand that reference. well the analogy more or less. i don't understand theis'eference. well the analogy more or less. i don't understand this thatence. well the analogy more or less. i don't understand this that evertonll the analogy more or less. i don't understand this that everton footballalogy is, is that everton football club are never going to pull up any roots and branches or trees. we are just a very we're a big club, but we're not doing very well position in well and that's our position in footballing . and think footballing life. and i think reform equivalent of. reform is the equivalent of. >> everybody, if >> but if everybody, if everybody like that, everybody thought like that, then other party would ever then no other party would ever get a chance. no, you're right. you're get a chance. no, you're right. youwell, what happened the >> well, what happened was the last election, you ukip did

extremely and they deprived extremely well and they deprived the tories and they were the ones that really forced cameron out with the brexit debate, etcetera, etcetera . when we had etcetera, etcetera. when we had brexit to talk about and now there isn't that enormous reason for people to vote for any other party. that's right. what i think should happen is that all the parties who are not the three main parties , excluding three main parties, excluding the snp etcetera , should join the snp etcetera, should join together. there is no point in reform standing ukip standing and all the other ones, smaller parties. lawrence foxes, whatever. he's called reclaim. they should all band together and have one party that is towards the right, but is an alternative to the tories. and until they do that, none of them will get anywhere. why won't they but oh they amalgamate? but oh ask richard oh, but you know. richard tice oh, but you know. >> but in a way, though, it's you're asking people who don't have who have an allegiance to a certain party to just let go of that and just join under another guise. that's just not going to happen. won't do that. happen. people won't do that. >> aren't aren't >> but people aren't aren't people now much more flexible, people now much more flexible, people i voted tory or i

people who oh, i voted tory or i voted because my dad voted labour because my dad voted labour because my dad voted i have voted labour and i always have people like that are much, much less like that. >> now you just ask, who >> now you just ask, so who do you and who do you trust you trust? and who do you trust to this? broken britain to fix this? this broken britain where we've got crumbling concrete that not concrete and things that are not making concrete and things that are not ma i ng concrete and things that are not ma i tell you what, would like >> i tell you what, i would like to see. i would like to see a coalition government whom coalition government with whom conservatives and lib dems, maybe what conservative maybe what about conservative and you're thinking of voting >> but you're thinking of voting labour said labour and you've just said you'd coalition of you'd like a coalition of the other you'd like a coalition of the oth but i'm intransigent with >> but i'm not intransigent with my views. >> but just changed >> but you've just changed your mind just within mind literally just now, within seconds mind literally just now, within second have. we have persuaded >> we have. we have persuaded him to defend myself. >> when you other people's >> when you hear other people's opinions, not an opinions, i'm not an intransigent guy, so i'm listening to your views and i'm going them. okay. which listening to your views and i'm going a them. okay. which listening to your views and i'm going a lotthem. okay. which listening to your views and i'm going a lot ofm. okay. which listening to your views and i'm going a lot of people 1. which listening to your views and i'm going a lot of people wouldh which a lot of people would do? >> you trust in the end? >> oh, i don't know. i don't i don't have confidence . it's not don't have confidence. it's not so much trust . confidence. i so much trust. confidence. i don't have . i know. i don't. don't have. i know. i don't. i don't have. i know. i don't. i don't have. i know. i don't. i don't have confidence in either of them. >> so none of them. >> so none of them. >> no, you got to you got to give me one of you got it. >> you're going to vote. >> you're going to vote. >> i'll let you off with that.

>> i'll let you off with that. >> come on. no way. quickly, because i've got to go. well, okay, well, it's be sunak okay, well, it's got to be sunak because basically, because i would have basically, he's instincts are more tune he's instincts are more in tune with mine starmers in with mine than starmers in instincts, he's got to instincts, but he's got to follow . yeah, you follow them. yeah, well, you know . right. well, let's see. know. right. well, let's see. this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome a great british their great british voice. their opportunity be on the show opportunity to be on the show and they think and tell us what they think about we're about the topics we're discussing. we're going to get him have a chat him instead. let's have a chat with john reid. john john. oh, it's they're all it's a nightmare. they're all awful . do trust then? awful. who do you trust then? what thinking ? oh, yeah. what are you thinking? oh, yeah. >> am i thinking? nana? i'm >> what am i thinking? nana? i'm thinking , >> what am i thinking? nana? i'm thinking, how could you >> what am i thinking? nana? i'm thinking , how could you possibly thinking, how could you possibly just the tories? not in a million years will i vote tory ever again. it has been known once in my life. never again . once in my life. never again. listen, any bunch of cronies that are going to build a railway from somewhere just outside london. the somewhere near birmingham centre for that nobody particularly wants, but it's going to cost billions. nobody particularly wants, but it's going to cost billions . a it's going to cost billions. a government that spends fortunes on covid hospitals they never use. and all the things that went with it. i don't know where

to stop. don't you , man? nigel to stop. don't you, man? nigel put his finger on it for me. he said it exactly as it should be. so do i trust labour? yeah. i'm prepared to give him a chance because they're making some kind of sense. tories are making no sense at all. >> well, keir starmer has only just worked out what a woman is. after two of he after two years of saying he didn't what was, and didn't know what one was, and that find is worrying. john that i find is worrying. john reid, much. good reid, thank you very much. good to hear your thoughts. that's john reid there in ilminster. he's what he's a great british voice. what do gb news on do you think this is? gb news on the it's this week's the way. it's this week's outside. this is clues. outside. now this is some clues. he his radio career he began his radio career in 1976 joined radio 1 in 1976 before he joined radio 1 in 1978, where quickly became 1976 before he joined radio 1 in 19780f/here quickly became 1976 before he joined radio 1 in 19780f thee quickly became 1976 before he joined radio 1 in 19780f the station'skly became 1976 before he joined radio 1 in 19780f the station's top 3ecame 1976 before he joined radio 1 in 19780f the station's top hosts e 1976 before he joined radio 1 in 19780f the station's top hosts . one of the station's top hosts. most recently, he's written music and lyrics for six stage musicals. and 2004, he took musicals. and in 2004, he took part in popular in a popular reality show, i'm a celebrity. get me out of here. can you guess who he might be? but first, let's get some weather. >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

weather on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. some cloud around for parts of scotland today and lingering along coastlines, but for many of us there is a fine amount of weather. we have managed to weather. so we have managed to enjoy it. that will remain so as we head this evening as we head into this evening as well. end to day well. a nice calm end to the day for most. mist and fog for most. some mist and fog though forming overnight, particularly though forming overnight, partictowards southeastern areas down towards southeastern areas of england, could also be quite murky northern ireland. murky for northern ireland. southern as southern areas of scotland as well, fairly mild night well, but a fairly mild night for most of us. towns cities for most of us. towns and cities running around 1314 c under running up around 1314 c under the lightest winds for northern ireland, northern england, we could drop into single figures, so a slightly fresher start to monday but again, so a slightly fresher start to moncthat but again, so a slightly fresher start to moncthat early but again, so a slightly fresher start to moncthat early mist but again, so a slightly fresher start to moncthat early mist b|foggain, once that early mist and fog does it does clear its way off, it should fairly fine and should be a fairly fine and sunny day for many of us. quite blustery around coast of the west country . but the strong west country. but the strong winds across north will be winds across the north will be easing and the rain easing a touch and the rain just mainly across mainly lingering across shetland. the shetland. so the highlands, the inner better inner hebrides seeing a better day compared to today day on monday compared to today with temperatures with that sunshine. temperatures climbing up degree. also

climbing up a degree. also compared today's values compared to today's values widely mid high or 20s widely in the mid high or 20s and that high pressure is staying with us as we head into tuesday and we'll start tapping into a southerly flow of air from continental europe as well. so will on so temperatures will be on the rise once again. a good amount of start off of sunshine to start off tuesday. bit of higher base tuesday. a bit of higher base cloud around at times may make the sunshine hazy places and the sunshine hazy in places and again,coastal areas scotland . some coastal areas of scotland. but with that sunshine, as mentioned, temperatures climbing towards 30 c, something we haven't since the 7th of haven't seen since the 7th of july by by the temperatures rising . rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on

gb news. good afternoon. >> it's just coming good afternoon. >> it'sjust coming up good afternoon. >> it's just coming up to 5:00. five minutes to five. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. and it's time now for worldview . moscow time now for worldview. moscow says 280,000 people have signed up to join the russian military so far this year. deputy chair of the russian security council, dmitry medvedev, says that he's meeting local officials to beef up the armed forces. so joining me to talk about russia is russian journalist alexi veer. he's there in russia . now. let's he's there in russia. now. let's have chat with him. i hope i have a chat with him. i hope i probably badly said that now that guy's sorry, but that guy's name. sorry, but alexi, talk to me about what's going on. so russia beefing going on. so russia are beefing up forces . up their forces. >> hello, nana . good to see you >> hello, nana. good to see you again. welcome back . thank you.

again. welcome back. thank you. so yes well, it's been so well. yes well, it's been a yeah so well. yes well, it's been a year. russia is conducting its military efforts in ukraine. and so far, just yesterday , we had so far, just yesterday, we had a statement from the ministry of defence that there will be no second wave of mobilisation in russia. well, at the same time , russia. well, at the same time, russia. well, at the same time, russia is actively recruiting contract holders and russia is swiftly trying to shift to this contract. army a more professional kind of army, not the kind of army where 18 year old boys like fresh out of school , get recruited and get school, get recruited and get sent to the front lines. russia is trying to get fewer people, but with better capacity to fight. so we'll see how it plays out in the battle ground. well, listen, alexi, i have to move quickly because i didn't have as much time . much time. >> see, i'm out of practise, but thank you , alexi. it's really thank you, alexi. it's really good to talk to you. we'll catch up next week for sure. but let's head over america now and head over to america now and speak host of the speak to the host of the politics podcast, paul politics people podcast, paul duddridge, and find out about what's there, because duddridge, and find out about what'sgot there, because duddridge, and find out about what'sgot some there, because duddridge, and find out about what'sgot some state, because duddridge, and find out about what'sgot some state electiona we've got some state election officials lining up to

disqualify from appearing disqualify trump from appearing on ballot in 2024. this just on the ballot in 2024. this just keeps going on, isn't it? >> it keeps going on and it's just about to start. welcome back. >> yeah, it's extraordinary . >> yeah, it's extraordinary. >> yeah, it's extraordinary. >> they couldn't now all these charges that we all know about and we've all read about, they all spring from events like four years ago. but it's crucial , years ago. but it's crucial, while it's crucial that trump is not finally prosecuted and tried until there's an election campaign happening, we could have done this three, four years ago because of the heinous nature of these terrible crimes. but they have to happen now. what you've got is certain states now weighing in. >> people like arizona, new hampshire and michigan, i believe they're starting to see if they can take trump's name entirely off the ballot. there's an amendment, entirely off the ballot. there's an amendment , the 14th amendment an amendment, the 14th amendment to the constitution , that says to the constitution, that says anybody that's engaged in insurrection , ann, shouldn't insurrection, ann, shouldn't be allowed federal office. allowed to hold federal office. and trying to spring and so they're trying to spring the 14th amendment, section three, interested on three, if you're interested on trump , that that's begun in

trump, that that's begun in florida. we've got one lawyer there who's actually started a case, but these other states are lining up to do it. >> they are doing anything they c611. >> can. >> election interference season is what we're in. they're doing anything they can to stop trump actually being allowed to run in 2024. it's extraordinary theory. >> but if he does win and then he gets through, can't he just pardoned himself? if only in certain places like georgia? >> he can't because georgia, that's not a federal case per se. 59. >> se. >> so that's actually a state the state is taking him. so he doesn't have that power. the president doesn't. but yes, generally what's generally they can. what's interesting is with one of interesting is, is with one of your replacements recently i was saying technically saying that he could technically go to prison. but with the secret service, it's unlikely he'd be incarcerated . he'd actually be incarcerated. the pardoning thing is absolutely possible if he gets if he gets found guilty, which they will find him guilty, by they will find him guilty, by the way, they will find him guilty on quite a few charges. oh there's no point. they're on a and they're a hunting trip and they're going to successful. he

to be successful. but yes, he could could pardon pardon could he could pardon pardon himself not himself in certain areas, not the georgia allegations. interesting. >> interesting thing. we've lost, i mean , would trump lost, paul. i mean, would trump care if he you know, not care if he was, you know, not pardoned if as long as he's the president of united states, pardoned if as long as he's the presicares?f united states, pardoned if as long as he's the presicares? well united states, pardoned if as long as he's the presicares? well it1ited states, pardoned if as long as he's the presicares? well it seems:ates, pardoned if as long as he's the presicares? well it seems that who cares? well it seems that trump lot of trump also has quite a lot of support the republican support from the republican voters. apparently 59% of republicans still support him and still would vote for him. so it does seem that trump hasn't really been affected by all this negative coverage. so get pulled back in. so look, i was just saying, 59% of the republicans still support donald trump anyway . oh yeah, 59. anyway. oh yeah, 59. >> and rising . absolutely. it's >> and rising. absolutely. it's look, the maga party has basically taken over the bulk of the republican party people. >> you've got now a new group started called democrats for trump. so there are democrats now forming this is these are the divisions that you went through with brexit. >> basically , it's just it's the >> basically, it's just it's the working man against the elite. and trump is seen as the lightning conductor for that. and what's interesting and

and so what's interesting and i don't facetious , is don't want to be facetious, is trump's in the black trump's support in the black community has gone from something like of the vote something like 10% of the vote in 2016. he's at like 31% support now . it's gathering more support now. it's gathering more support now. it's gathering more support by people that he's supposed to have lost years ago . so it's a really fascinating time. and the poor guy is going through ructions . it's through ructions. it's extraordinary the state is extraordinary what the state is throwing him. throwing at him. >> yeah, it's terrible. hopefully resilient. hopefully he can be resilient. resilient because and resilient enough because and i think deserves to have his think he deserves to have his day because the man has the support of the people and that's what it's about. paul what it's all about. paul duddndge what it's all about. paul duddridge much. duddridge, thank you so much. good talk good see good to talk to you. good to see you. duddridge. you. that is paul duddridge. he's the host the politics he's the host of the politics people you want to people podcast. you want to check but check that out on youtube. but if joined me, welcome. if you just joined me, welcome. this on tv, online this is gb news on tv, online and digital we are the and on digital radio. we are the people's more to come people's channel. more to come in the next hour . in the next hour. is 5:00. welcome on board. i'm

nana akua. we're live on tv onune nana akua. we're live on tv online and on digital radio for the next hour for me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines right now. coming up, this week's outside now he's a journalist tv presenter and a dj , including a five year stint on radio one, the breakfast show. he's done so many different things. he's written six musicals. he's a phenomenon. but who is he then for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is work from home culture destroying our society? all of that after your latest news headlines with aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> very good evening to you. it's 5:00. let's get you up to date with the headlines from the gb newsroom. the government's under pressure to reveal the exact number of schools at risk of collapse due to crumbling concrete. a labour is planning to force a vote to compel the prime minister to publish a full list all schools risk with list of all schools at risk with

more told to fully or more than 100 told to fully or partially closed just days before the new term begins . our before the new term begins. our experts are warning the problems being complicated by the coexistence of asbestos in schools and other public buildings. shadow education secretary bridget phillipson says the government should have acted sooner . acted sooner. >> i appreciate that lots of parents across the country will be because sadly many be concerned because sadly many children are not going to be able to return to education or will be moved into portacabins or alternative accommodation because the risk that this because of the risk that this kind of crumbling concrete is going to pose. all very going to pose. it all feels very last minute and what we're calling on the government to do is a full of all is to publish a full list of all of schools affected so that of the schools affected so that parents confident about parents can be confident about where and if where the problems are and if they're not prepared to do that, we vote in we will force a vote in parliament week to make happen. >> however, the exchequer secretary to the treasury, gareth davies, has defended the government's actions, saying everything is being done to protect students . protect students. >> but obviously this is incredibly serious, it's very concerning, but most people in this country will not be

affected by this . parents will affected by this. parents will be told by their schools first and foremost whether their impact if parents watching this have not heard from their schools by the opening of schools, they should proceed to the as normal. that's the school as normal. that's been our priority. the education secretary will be making a statement, though, later this week in the house of commons as the number of people crossing the number of people crossing the channel in small boats has hit new daily record for this hit a new daily record for this yean hit a new daily record for this year, 872 migrants in 15 dinghies were intercepted yesterday , with at least another yesterday, with at least another two boats making it to uk waters today. >> gb news can reveal the total number of people entering the country illegally has now passed 21,000 so far. this year. the chancellor's renewed his pledge to halve inflation, saying it's time to see the job through . time to see the job through. speaking ahead of the next bank of england announcement on the 21st of september, jeremy hunt insists the government is on track to reach the target this year. track to reach the target this year . labour track to reach the target this year. labour is accusing him of being completely out of touch with the realities faced by

families the country . it families across the country. it comes as the latest figures show the uk economy recovered from the uk economy recovered from the pandemic faster than expected and the boss of tesco has called for a change in the law to make abuse or violence towards retail workers an offence. writing in the mail on sunday, chief executive ken murphy said he's been forced to increase security measures and offer staff bodycams . physical offer staff bodycams. physical assaults against tesco workers have risen by a third over the past year, he says it's unacceptable and has described the impact on his staff as heartbreaking . now a red weather heartbreaking. now a red weather warning is in place for parts of spain as storms sweep across the country. residents in in alcanar on the east coast have been told to stay inside as water has flooded the streets in the caphal flooded the streets in the capital. madrid's mayor has advised the same with torrential rain forecast over . the next 12 rain forecast over. the next 12 hours. and it's a similar problem in the united states where one person has died and tens of thousands of people are stranded at the burning man

festival . authorities have festival. authorities have closed access in and out of the site in the black rock desert because of heavy rain in nevada. festival goers have been asked to conserve food and water with local reports suggesting up to 70,000 people are stranded. more rain is expected over the next few days to prompting some to leave the event on foot, trekking to the nearest highway .nonh trekking to the nearest highway . north korea has carried out a simulator covid tactical nuclear attack . according to state attack. according to state media, the drill included two long—range cruise missiles carrying mock nuclear warheads. the government tv channel rt says it was designed to, in their words, warn enemies the country is prepared if there's a nuclear war. it comes after pyongyang vowed to bolster military deterrence against washington and seoul. military deterrence against washington and seoul . the military deterrence against washington and seoul. the public will be consulted on plans for a permanent memorial to the late queen nearly a year after her death, organised by an independent committee, the tribute will consider queen

elizabeth's life of public service and the causes she supported. it will also include a national legacy programme and will be unveiled in 2026 on what would have been her 100th birthday royal pageant master bruno peak says it needs to be a huge event . huge event. >> memorial should be not just uk wide but commonwealth wide and something that could be organised every year as well, not just a statue, but something that could be organised, that could bring people together every year in memory of this wonderful, wonderful person . wonderful, wonderful person. >> we'll have more throughout the evening here on gb news, but for the moment, that's it. now back to nana . back to nana. >> good afternoon. it's fast approaching. six minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next houn nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be

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he dabbled in politics after being run for london being asked to run for london mayor instead , he decided to mayor instead, he decided to support johnson . stay support boris johnson. stay tuned. find out who do think tuned. find out who do you think he is. but for the great british debate the way, i'm asking is debate on the way, i'm asking is work home? is that culture work from home? is that culture destroying our society ? as destroying our society? as banking giant city, our city? and i say that begin to monitor begins to monitor how often employees are working from home in a bid to get more staff in the office. so should more businesses ensure staff get back to work? and at the office, email me, gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. so, right. tweet me at. gb news. so, right. it's time now, though, for this week's outside and every sunday at 5:00, i'm joined by a celebrity , a former mp or celebrity, a former mp or someone who's had an extremely interesting career take interesting career to take a look after the job. look at life after the job. talking highs , lows and lessons talking highs, lows and lessons learned. you might seen learned. and you might have seen this man on i'm a celebrity, get me out of it. he first got his start in broadcasting all the way in 1976 on redding

way back in 1976 on redding radio show and took the world by storm when he joined radio one a few years later . storm when he joined radio one a few years later. he's also had a lengthy career on tv, presenting, hosting saturday superstore, as well as a music game show, pop quiz . if that game show, pop quiz. if that wasn't enough, he also founded the british plaque trust , a the british plaque trust, a charity dedicated to commemorate deceased achievers in show business. so who do you think he is? well, of course, he's the legendary radio dj. mike read. mike read , mike read 275. mike read, mike read 275. i shouldn't do that. >> last time i was here, you did a dance. you were the very first person to do a dance to that jingle. >> oh, it's honestly, i remember you back in the day. radio one was my thing. i listened to all of you. but, mike, you were my idol, my hero. so i love you for that. >> oh, thank you. and what i also liked. i love the fact i look really good. blurred. i decided i saw four blurred pictures of me. i think i'm going use those. going to use those. >> you've kept the hair. >> well, you've kept the hair. the you've fabulous the hair. you've got fabulous hair. blurring. >> i like the blurring. >> i like the blurring. >> i like the blurring. >> i it's wonderful. yeah. yeah

>> you've had that stuff. >> you've had that stuff. >> i thought i'd better do my >> you've had that stuff. >> ifor)ught i'd better do my >> you've had that stuff. >> ifor you.: i'd better do my >> you've had that stuff. >> ifor you. 501 better do my >> you've had that stuff. >> ifor you. so ibetter do my >> you've had that stuff. >> ifor you. so i putar do my >> you've had that stuff. >> ifor you. so i put the) my >> you've had that stuff. >> ifor you. so i put the roof hair for you. so i put the roof down on car, got here, down on the car, got here, looked. i thought like looked. i thought i looked like the child dennis the the love child of dennis the menace the hedgehog. menace and sonic the hedgehog. >> i'll you that. >> i flattened it. now, though. >> i flattened it. now, though. >> talk to about >> so, mike, talk to me about your your early years then. and, your your early years then. and, you know, where grow up you know, where did you grow up and childhood like? >> well, i grew surrey. >> well, i grew up in surrey. >> well, i grew up in surrey. >> i always loved writing. i always loved music. i did dancing from a very early age because we had dancing classes in our house. so i tapped dance ball change, shuffle, hop, step, toe, heel, didn't like it. and then i had about 20 years of dancing lessons. i hated it, but it got on the stage so it got me on the stage so i learned to work as a team with people. it gave me confidence . people. it gave me confidence. it gave me projection. so from the age of eight, the curtains went up and you're and went up and you're on stage and you to do your stuff and you have to do your stuff and that's very good. it's good to learn. with team , to learn. working with a team, to get to learn your words, whatever they're doing and going on stage doing that. so i think that gave me the confidence. and then college, i wrote a musical.

i wrote my first book of poems . i wrote my first book of poems. i wrote my first book of poems. i started writing songs. they signed you. i'd do something creative and i got into radio. the chap called neil ffrench blake phoned me and i played in a few cricket matches and he said, i want you to come and see me. i'm starting a radio station. and oh, okay. station. and i said, oh, okay. so to see him and neil so i went to see him and neil said, he said, i want you my said, he said, i want you on my radio station reasons. radio station for three reasons. he very he said, one, you're very english. two, you're mildly eccentric, three, you're eccentric, and three, you're a good bowler. and i said good opening bowler. and i said , what's that got to do with it? he said, i'm starting a cricket team you're opening team and you're opening the bowling. you want bowling. so i said, do you want to on the radio? he to hear me on the radio? he said, not really . so steve said, no, not really. so steve ryan myself started ryan and myself started at the same time and then we ended up doing the read and write show. we were both amateurs and he fired said, fired us once a week. he said, you boys listen to the professionals. they're professionals. what they're doing. thought, doing. and we thought, yeah, it's boring. we'll our it's a bit boring. we'll do our own thing. he'd in own thing. and he'd come in and 90, own thing. and he'd come in and go, what you doing go, oh god, what are you doing now? we got through it. now? so but we got through it. we were rebels and mavericks right the but right from the start, but somehow through it. somehow we got through it. i went to radio luxembourg and

then so did steve. i came to radio did steve. so we radio 1 and so did steve. so we got somehow. radio 1 and so did steve. so we goti somehow. radio 1 and so did steve. so we goti rememberomehow. radio 1 and so did steve. so we goti remember inehow. radio 1 and so did steve. so we goti remember i thinky. radio 1 and so did steve. so we goti remember i think it was, it >> i remember i think it was, it was steve, right? and his our tuned to na na na na na na na. yeah. and he used to tell a story. i was at university at the time and i would listen to that and i literally, i'd get everything ready listen to everything ready to listen to our fabulous. our tunes. fabulous. >> simon did that. >> it was simon bates. did that. >> it was simon bates. did that. >> simon bates. oh, yeah. >> oh, simon bates. oh, yeah. well but it was great. so you're all of the greats, though. all part of the greats, though. that era of radio that that was an era of radio that had incredible presenters. had some incredible presenters. >> . i mean, i don't think >> it was. i mean, i don't think you realise it at the time, and i don't think we really i certainly didn't realise i was learning just thought learning stuff. i just thought i was a good time. and it was having a good time. and it turns learning stuff turns out i was learning stuff as well. but it was a really good team of people . we did the good team of people. we did the roadshows , of course. i remember roadshows, of course. i remember with smiley miley, we were out on the road. we did our weeks away and it was great fun. we really did a good time. really did have a good time. and when about it, there when you think about it, there were and they had were radio shows and they had 20, 25,000 people standing watching a radio show that was

extraordinary. >> we used to do i mean , you had >> we used to do i mean, you had lots of people on stage because i can remember to going gary davis's radio show . i can remember to going gary davis's radio show. i i can remember to going gary davis's radio show . i went to davis's radio show. i went to pat sharp's radio shows as well. they were they were a big phenomenon. do you think radio is kind of losing its way or do you think that it's making a resurgence? yes. >> well, there are more radio stations now, certainly more tv channels . see, fighting a lot. channels. see, fighting a lot. you're not getting the same ratings you did. i mean , we ratings that you did. i mean, we i think the breakfast show, i think on the breakfast show, radio one, we got 14 million when we did saturday superstore. saturday we got saturday morning, we got 10 million. 10 million for million. we got 10 million for p0p million. we got 10 million for pop and a saturday pop quiz. and a saturday evening. i think top of the pops got 15, million. so they were got 15, 16 million. so they were big, ratings then. there big, big ratings then. but there were fewer channels, of course. so people did watch those. there were fewer radio channels, fewer tv channels . were fewer radio channels, fewer tv channels. i don't were fewer radio channels, fewer tv channels . i don't know how tv channels. i don't know how they all sustain now, to be honest with you, i really don't know you keep hundreds of tv know how you keep hundreds of tv channels going and i noticed you mentioned that when you know you

what do you think of the working from home thing? >> because we're talking about it and you said it later. and i know you said that when you work in teams, you love teams that love working in teams that people together and it people work together and it builds talking builds confidence. we're talking about view about it later. what's your view on is changing on the way society is changing and a lot of people are now working from home? >> depends on the >> i think it depends on the animal are, and i'm good animal you are, and i'm good because really i'll get on because i really i'll get on with up i'll with it. i'll get up and i'll work. some really work. i mean, some people really push paper around, drink coffee. it depends how motivated it really depends how motivated you the of person you are. and the type of person you are. and the type of person you some people i think are you are. some people i think are suhed you are. some people i think are suited to that and others aren't. maybe there are aren't. and maybe there are people working from home who aren't suited it aren't necessarily suited to it that to be in the team, that need to be in the team, need the drive, need people around them to encourage them to 999 around them to encourage them to egg them on. and others are quite happy to be self motivated. i'm really quite happy with both. i'm happy working in a team. i'm happy working in a team. i'm happy working by myself as well. so yeah, depends on the person working by myself as well. so yeaiare. depends on the person you are. >> yes, it's interesting because you sort of comment that you made a sort of comment that it helped build your confidence. so what so i just wondered what your, your way your view was on the way things are going. so you so from radio one, where did you go from

there? one, where did you go from the radio i went to the >> radio one i then went to the capital because they were told they get the new they were going to get the new national station. i think virgin got complicated and a bit boring , going there . , so i ended up going there. theni , so i ended up going there. then i went to classic fm, so i did the breakfast show on there, the classical stuff. so it's interesting. bit on jazz the classical stuff. so it's intejit's ng. bit on jazz the classical stuff. so it's intejit's interesting bit on jazz the classical stuff. so it's intejit's interesting because zz the classical stuff. so it's intejit's interesting because my fm. it's interesting because my musical very catholic. musical taste is very catholic. i it's very, very broad i mean, it's very, very broad and for me, if it's good, then that's fine. i'm not really oh, i only like this. i'm not. i've always like to be a broadcaster, rather than a narrow caster. and that's been i think that's been the problem that people still see was a bit of a maverick. they go, oh, he wants to change this. and i thought, no, this. and i thought, well, no, you if that's what you do, you know, if that's what you do, if music your life , you play. if music is your life, you play. i write. i've been on stage, i work the artists , and you work with the artists, and you kind what's good and kind of know what's good and what isn't and what you should be playing and how surprise be playing and how to surprise an audience well . not just an audience as well. not just play an audience as well. not just play same things and play the same old things and often hear stations programmed by call the suits . the

by what they call the suits. the men in suits saying these these are the songs you'll play. and i thought, no, and i don't not play thought, no, and i don't not play them to just perverse or play them to just be perverse or to awkward. it's because to be awkward. it's because i said they come every said no. they come round every day, hey, let's something day, hey, let's do something different . people have different. people have the capacity to listen to something different . different. >> it was interesting to read ken bruce saying that actually one the reasons he left radio one of the reasons he left radio two was because he didn't you know, didn't really like know, they didn't really like the music they playing the music they were playing and he sound an he didn't want to sound like an old sort of anorak sort of old man get what man type thing. i get what he's saying. because you saying. yeah, because if you were to pick one of your favourite artists or your what's youn favourite artists or your what's your, you pick as your, what would you pick as your, what would you pick as your favourite song? i mean mine is life. that's is crusaders street life. that's a me. what do you. a classic to me. what do you. >> i know. i always >> i don't know. i always i always look for the songwriters. i was always even as a kid, i think i watch them again . i think i watch them again. i didn't know who they were, but i thought, wrote that thought, oh, they wrote that other liked. so i'd other thing that i liked. so i'd often at the names in often look at the names in parentheses under the title to see writers were. see who the writers were. so i'd always fascinated that . always been fascinated by that. so in quite a few years ago now, i wrote a book, 200 years of

songwriters in britain and america, because i was always fascinated by songs. it's the thing that fascinates me most that, you know, you could be sitting there with nothing and then 20 minutes later you've got a great song, whether it's the seller or not. but you think, i've just written that i've just created that there's no, you know, month gestation know, nine month gestation period. 20 minutes. i've done period. is 20 minutes. i've done it . you know, i don't have to it. you know, i don't have to send it to school or anything like that. neil said , aka once like that. neil said, aka once said, i said him, is said, i said to him, which is your favourite because he's your favourite song because he's written and he written so many great. and he said, he they're all said, mike, he said, they're all my little babies. said, my little babies. he said, i send into the world and send them into the world and they me money home. i don't they send me money home. i don't have to pay them. have to pay for them. >> a lot of people >> you see, a lot of people wouldn't know that. you've written that written musicals and that that is you've done. is something that you've done. i mean, that's quite impressive . mean, that's quite impressive. oh, yeah. >> i musicals. i mean, >> i love musicals. i mean, i like to have written in the in the rodgers and hart and the era of rodgers and hart and lerner and loewe and rodgers and hammerstein. that would have been recently did been great. i recently did a musical with eric coates music. everyone said to eric coates, he

died in 1957. everyone said, you're our richard rodgers. you should be writing for the stage. you know? and he never did. so i took his music, did the lyrics, did the book, and we did city of dreams a while ago. and his music is just perfect for the stage. so hopefully moving it on 50011. >> soon. >> now, i know that you are a music trivia expert. you know lots about music and trivia only until someone who knows more. you've written books and stuff about it. i've got a couple about it. so i've got a couple of questions which i you'll of questions which i know you'll get so all right. so here get right? so all right. so here we . we go. >> i won't get it right. i know you prizes. you will. all the prizes. >> no, there are . are >> no, there are. there are prizes. right. so your prizes. all right. so your first question, english, sir, question, which english, sir, has in the 50s, 60s has a number one in the 50s, 60s and 80s and 90s. and 70s, 80s and 90s. >> that might be cliff. >> well, that might be cliff. >> well, that might be cliff. >> think is sir cliff >> i think that is sir cliff richard. there you go. okay, second what was second question. what was freddie mercury's name? freddie mercury's real name? >> oh, what was it? that's i've forgotten it instantly . forgotten it instantly. >> now i'll do that all the time i >> -- >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah , yeah, >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah , yeah .

yeah, yeah. >> farrokh bulsara. >> farrokh bulsara. >> yeah, yeah. that's a yeah. bulsara bulsara bulsara. that's right. >> bulsara bulsara. >> bulsara bulsara. >> and i never knew what he was. they always said he was from zanzibar and somebody said no, he wasn't from zanzibar. he was, it indian, yeah. it was an indian, i think. yeah. do know his hero ? he said to do you know his hero? he said to me hero jimi hendrix. he me his hero was jimi hendrix. he used to have pictures of hendrix me his hero was jimi hendrix. he useinto have pictures of hendrix me his hero was jimi hendrix. he useinto hbathroom es of hendrix me his hero was jimi hendrix. he useinto hbathroom saying,endrix up in his bathroom saying, i want to be like hendrix. what about this question then? >> which singer? she's female has billboard number in has a billboard number one. in each the four decades. each of the last four decades. she's pretty. >> diana ross . who's that ? carey >> diana ross. who's that? carey was it really? there you go. >> and your final one then? in what year did the clash release their iconic album, london did? the their iconic the clash released their iconic album london covid ooh, it must have been around 1980 ish. you're right, close 1979, 79, was it? it was a very close , was it? it was a very close, very close. very close. not fair me to do that. what about these brooklyn? you've a book here. >> is this a series of new books , years of a london , a thousand years of a london street . the first was

street. the first one was denmark street . and this one is denmark street. and this one is 1000 years of cheapside. wow. >> there's a lot just >> and there's a lot just there's one street. you've managed one street book about it. >> yeah. and the next one i've nearly finished is a thousand years which is years of piccadilly, which is great fun . it is great. it's great fun. it is great. it's like stepping time and like stepping back in time and just through door. just going through the door. each door street and were each door in the street and were this going back to, you know , this going back to, you know, roman saxon times , you know? roman saxon times, you know? >> so here's a book. this is this is mike's book a thousand years. look at that. >> an exciting read it is. >> what an exciting read it is. well, it's there are well, i'm sure it's there are pictures as well. >> sure. it's a interesting >> sure. it's a very interesting street as well. fantastic. and mike, radio. mike, you're still on the radio. >> still yeah. yeah >> you're still on. yeah. yeah we're just about to launch a new station . three years ago, station. three years ago, i created the heritage chart. so many artists at heritage artists were not getting their current stuff, wasn't getting played, and all the big stations said , and all the big stations said, oh, well, yeah, we play their gold stuff, obviously, but not the new stuff. and they said, you're only one doing it. so you're the only one doing it. so i the heritage i created the heritage chart. it's going years. it's been going three years. next we're on the 80th tv

next week we're on the 80th tv show. so people keep saying show. wow. so people keep saying it's the new top of the pops. so that's and next week that's done well and next week as well, to go in tandem with the tv show, we're to going launch heritage radio launch heritage chart radio as well. reid, i'm looking >> mike reid, i'm looking forward to that. thank forward to that. yeah. thank you so much . so much. >> go and give us the song again. >> fi- w" >> mike reid, mike reid, two seven, five and i got the seven, five and 285. i got the phone right. mike reid, phone number right. mike reid, mike reid, national radio. one, two. the dance . two. you should see the dance. well, thank you so much, mike. it's lovely to talk to you. that, of course, is the fabulous the legendary mike reid. make that, of course, is the fabulous the lyou1dary mike reid. make that, of course, is the fabulous the [you catch mike reid. make that, of course, is the fabulous the [you catch him reid. make that, of course, is the fabulous the [you catch him onid. make that, of course, is the fabulous the [you catch him onid. inew sure you catch him on his new station. first, get an station. but first, let's get an update your weather that update with your weather that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. some cloud around for parts of scotland today and lingering along coastlines , but for many of us coastlines, but for many of us there a fine amount there is a fine amount of weather. managed to weather. so we have managed to enjoy it. that will remain so as

we into this evening as we head into this evening as well. nice, calm to the well. a nice, calm end to the day for most, with some well. a nice, calm end to the day thought, with some well. a nice, calm end to the day though forming with some well. a nice, calm end to the day though forming overnight, fog, though forming overnight, particularly lincolnshire particularly for lincolnshire down southeastern areas down towards southeastern areas of also be quite of england could also be quite murky for northern ireland. southern scotland as southern areas of scotland as well, but fairly mild night well, but a fairly mild night for most towns and cities for most of us. towns and cities running around 1314 c under running up around 1314 c under the lightest winds for northern ireland. northern england, we could drop into single figures so start to so a slightly fresher start to monday here. but again, monday morning here. but again, once early and fog once that early mist and fog does way off, it does clear its way off, it should fairly fine and should be a fairly fine and sunny day for many of us, quite blessed around of the west blessed around coast of the west country. the strong winds country. but the strong winds across north will easing across the north will be easing across the north will be easing a rain just mainly a touch and the rain just mainly lingering across shetland. so the inner the highlands, the inner hebndes the highlands, the inner hebrides seeing better on hebrides seeing a better day on monday compared today with monday compared to today with that sunshine. temperatures climbing also climbing up a degree. also compared today's values compared to today's values widely high or 20s widely in the mid high or 20s and that high pressure is staying with us as we head into tuesday and we'll start tapping into a southerly flow of air from continental europe as well. so temperatures on the so temperatures will be on the rise once again . a good amount rise once again. a good amount of to off tuesday of sunshine to start off tuesday . a of higher base cloud

. a bit of higher base cloud around make the around at times may make the sunshine and sunshine hazy in places. and again, still lingering along some scotland. again, still lingering along somwith scotland. again, still lingering along somwith that scotland. again, still lingering along somwith that sunshine, ycotland. again, still lingering along somwith that sunshine, as:land. but with that sunshine, as mentioned, temperatures climbing towards 30 c, something we haven't seen since the 7th of july by by that warm feeling inside . inside. >> aside from boxt boilers as proud sponsors of weather on . gb proud sponsors of weather on. gb news, while i could have spoken to mike for hours. >> no, he got the last interview with freddie mercury. but this one staying with next, one staying with me. up next, that great british this that great british debate this and from and i'm asking is work from home? is this culture destroying

news britain's news . channel news britain's news. channel >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 27 minutes after 5:00. if you've just tuned in, where on earth have you been? this is a gb news. i'm nana akua andifs this is a gb news. i'm nana akua and it's time now for our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is the work from home destroying home culture destroying our society now, citibank society? now, citibank has started to monitor how often their employees work from home, warning bonuses could potentially be docked from those who don't show up. at least three days a week. hmrc have recently come under fire after it revealed that only 1 in 5 members of its staff were working in the office during the month of july. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is work from home? is the culture destroying our society? so i'm joined now by matthew stadlen , political commentator stadlen, political commentator michael cahill. he's a ceo of night industries

night time industries association. vicky pryce, the chief economic adviser at the centre economic and business centre of economic and business research, mullins , research, and charlie mullins, the founder pimlico plumbers the founder of pimlico plumbers . charlie, i'm to start . charlie, i'm going to start with you . the fabric with you. the very fabric of society, you believe it's society, do you believe it's sort of been eroded this sort of been eroded by this culture the whole culture where people, the whole socialising of people coming to work and together and work and working together and working think working in teams, do you think that working from home is affecting eroding affecting and eroding it? >> in many, many ways. >> yeah, in many, many ways. >> yeah, in many, many ways. >> besides product activity, you can't train people . all can't train people. all youngsters are going to get bad work ethics because they're not mixing with people . well, you're mixing with people. well, you're getting situation of multiple getting a situation of multiple workers to work from home workers trying to work from home all in the same room , all the all in the same room, all the same of distract that same type of distract that you're getting and everybody you talk to that works from home seems to think they're more productive, but they're not more productive. courses at productive. the golf courses at the moment are packed where people are supposed to be at work, but they're on the golf course. so the they are facts. i mean, there's a golf course near where i live. it's never been so busy. and all these people are working there's many

working people. there's many reasons mean, and reasons why. i mean, and youngsters , it's ruining youngsters, it's ruining youngsters, it's ruining youngsters . you know, youngsters futures. you know, they're never going to be able to get a job and say that they've work experience. they've had work experience. i mean, at the moment have 1 or they've had work experience. i mdays at the moment have 1 or they've had work experience. i mdays workz moment have 1 or they've had work experience. i mdays work experience have 1 or they've had work experience. i mdays work experience andave 1 or 2 days work experience and that's very valuable to youngsters from home. they're not going to get it. so i think from a youngsters point of view, you're going to ruin their future. they're going to see their home future. they're going to see theine home future. they're going to see theine under home future. they're going to see theine under the home future. they're going to see theine under the impressionyme future. they're going to see theine under the impression that and be under the impression that that's and that's the way forward. and you're have mental you're going to have mental health problems. you're going to have are going have no new businesses are going to start up. why would you start up a business knowing that your workers running the show so workers are running the show so you've got no control it? you've got no control over it? unfortunately, we can't trust people to work from home. possibly 10. yes the other thing is it's an unfair system . very, is it's an unfair system. very, very and the fact that very unfair. and the fact that many other people are going to lose their job, you know, the taxi driver, newspaper man shop , restaurant, etcetera, i actually think it's a very selfish thing that people are doing. and i think the only ones that should work from home are the ones that have got no choice

, i.e. the ones that have got no choice , le. a disability or they've got to look after somebody . but got to look after somebody. but you would take them on that you would take them on on that bafis you would take them on on that basis when my new basis. when i start my new business, nobody will be working from right? from home, right? >> , that's that's very >> well, that's that's very comprehensive matthew comprehensive there, matthew staton, why are comprehensive there, matthew statlaughing why are comprehensive there, matthew statlaughing ? why are you laughing? >> it's entertaining >> no, it's just entertaining listening charlie. listening to charlie. >> charlie's hugely >> i mean, charlie's a hugely successful businessman. >> i mean, charlie's a hugely suc he sful businessman. >> i mean, charlie's a hugely suc he set businessman. >> i mean, charlie's a hugely suc he set up sinessman. >> i mean, charlie's a hugely suc he set up pimlico an. >> i mean, charlie's a hugely suc he set up pimlico plumbers . >> he set up pimlico plumbers. >> he set up pimlico plumbers. >> talking about the >> we're not talking about the majority society here. majority of society here. >> we were talking about >> oh, we were talking about some society. some some areas of society. >> example >> for example. >> for example. >> a lot of areas, for example, you work from if you cannot work from home if you're and don't you're a plumber and i don't know many people who go to know that many people who go to work by taxi. listen, can work by taxi. listen, you can look different ways of look at different ways of analysing the economics here. >> i you know what i meant by taxi getting a taxi or getting a bus?i taxi getting a taxi or getting a bus? i mean, there's no point in trying you know? trying to be clever. you know? you know what i mean by what i was saying? i've no idea what people work on taxis, charlie. >> i've never gone to work in a taxi in my life via taxis . taxi in my life via taxis. >> taxis. >> taxis. >> there is there is an argument, of course. >> this is. wait, wait. let charlie sorry. briefly. charlie respond. sorry. briefly. charlie, going charlie, what were you going to say?

>> y— >> yeah, i'm just saying. let's go on with real thing. but go on with the real thing. but let's take of let's not take it out of proportion. whether it be a plumber, centre. i wouldn't plumber, call centre. i wouldn't want staff to be want my call centre staff to be taking home personal information that other could and that other people could see, and nor would my customers know. >> understand and actually >> i understand and actually agree with that. >> i understand and actually agrlastith that. >> i understand and actually agrlast point.t. >> i understand and actually agrlast point. all i'm saying is >> last point. all i'm saying is this not the majority this is not the majority of society now. are society now. there are advantages disadvantages. advantages and disadvantages. you could look at the you could you could look at the economic impact. people economic impact. some people will positive. will say it's been positive. some say it hasn't some people will say it hasn't been positive. the economy doesn't to been doesn't seem to have been too badly disrupted. been badly disrupted. we've been reading media just this reading in the media just this week, listen, you can avoid the commute. you can save sometimes 2 to 3 hours a day if you work at home. there's a very strong argument that flexibility is a good you'll probably good thing. you'll probably lose fewer sick leave because fewer days to sick leave because you work at home if you're you can work at home if you're feeling not that well. whereas you might not go the office you might not go into the office otherwise. i love being in a studio. i make the to studio. i make the effort to come studio come into the gb news studio because better. i'd because it's much better. i'd prefer charlie and all prefer charlie if you and all the guests were here with the other guests were here with me so could debate. me so we could debate. >> think you're i think >> but i think you're i think you lose. >> i think you lose creativity, you some interaction.

you lose some human interaction. but flexibility can't but a bit of flexibility can't be thing. and the idea be a bad thing. and the idea that one more that that one more thing that i briefly because i've get briefly because i've got to get my heart the my sucking the heart out of the centres of cities, that's that's possibly true. but then neighbourhoods will benefit benefits local neighbourhoods. >> we've got we've got it. let's get michael killen. michael, what do you think? >> yeah, listen, there are some really key that were sort really key points that were sort of brought up there. >> just from >> i mean, just from our perspective industry, perspective as an industry, i mean, it has crucified our sector restaurants, bars, pubs are heavily hit by that change in behaviour where some of the workforce , particularly in inner workforce, particularly in inner cities, you know, been cities, have you know, been having or 3 days at home and having 2 or 3 days at home and then normally used for meeting places, lunches after work, dnnks places, lunches after work, drinks etcetera. >> and alongside that with industrial action, which has almost people to at almost forced people to stay at home people have got used to home and people have got used to things. i mean, while i appreciate furlough was appreciate the furlough was a really, good thing for really, really good thing for us, sustaining that pandemic period, also creates this period, it also creates this lethargy within the workforce in some spaces. so it created a very difficult environment for us, but without a doubt, our industry has been massively hit

andifs industry has been massively hit and it's still trying to recover and it's still trying to recover and almost been hit with this double whammy cost inflation double whammy and cost inflation off pandemic as off the back of the pandemic as well. we're still suffering well. but we're still suffering heavily people actually heavily with people actually working five days a week, seven days a week in some cases . days a week in some cases. >> i think it's down to i need to give vicky in briefly because we've got to go to the news. vicky >> vicky well, if you look at how economy's been how the economy's been performing, as we heard, it's been despite been doing quite well despite the are working from the fact people are working from home. there is a certain home. but there is a certain amount inequalitythat's home. but there is a certain amount inequality that's been amount of inequality that's been creeping amount of inequality that's been cre> those who get tend to get paid are ones who have paid more are the ones who have more of a and able to more of a choice and are able to work those who are work from home. those who are lower not have that lower paid seem not to have that choice. so we have actually widened that gap that widened that that gap that exists. look at exists. but when you look at people's well—being , the people's well—being, the majority responses . we get majority of responses. we get when you ask people how do they feel about working from home, is that their well—being has improved if their happiness improves, what? >> oh, listen, we've >> oh, well, listen, we've run out it's really out of time, but it's really good to get your thoughts. out of time, but it's really goocharliet your thoughts. out of time, but it's really goocharlie mullins,)ughts. out of time, but it's really goocharlie mullins, founder >> charlie mullins, founder of pimlico. much, pimlico. thank you very much, charlie. stadlen, pimlico. thank you very much, charlie. kill, stadlen, pimlico. thank you very much, charlie. kill, also stadlen, pimlico. thank you very much, charlie. kill, also vickyn, pimlico. thank you very much, charlie. kill, also vicky pryce, michael kill, also vicky pryce,

chief at the chief economic adviser at the centre and business centre of economics and business research. you think? research. so what do you think? i'm this is gb news on i'm nana akua this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. we'll be continuing our great british this hour. i'm british debate this hour. i'm asking home asking his work from home is that culture destroying our society the society? you'll hear the thoughts panel. christine thoughts of my panel. christine hamilton and danny kelly. but first, your news with first, let's get your news with aaron . aaron armstrong. >> it's 533, very good evening to you from the gb newsroom . the to you from the gb newsroom. the government is under pressure to reveal the exact number of schools at risk of collapse due to crumbling concrete. labour is planning to force a vote to compel the prime minister to pubush compel the prime minister to publish a list of all schools at risk, with more than 100 told to fully or partially close just days before the new term begins, experts are warning the problem is being further complicated by the coexistence of asbest . s in the coexistence of asbest. s in schools and other public buildings. the number of people crossing the channel in small boats has hit a new daily record for the year 872 migrants in 15

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with more at 6:00. now it's over to nana . to nana. >> coming up, we were discussing transgender participation in sport as a canadian cricketer is set to become the first transgender person to play in the women's t20 international . the women's t20 international. well then on the way next though , my great british debate this hour i'm asking is working hour and i'm asking is working from is that culture from home, is that culture destroying society?

radio >> hello . >> hello. >> hello. good >> hello. good afternoon. >> hello. good afternoon. it's just coming up to 39 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and it's time now for my great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is the work from home culture destroying society with summer coming up and coming to end, push workers to an end, the push for workers to an end, the push for workers to return to the office is stronger citibank stronger than ever. citibank have started to monitor how often their employees work from home, warning bonuses could potentially be docked from those who don't show up at least three days a week. hmrc have recently come fire after was come under fire after it was revealed that only 1 in 5 members of staff were working in the the month of the office during the month of july and let's not forget the july. and let's not forget the home office, which is literally the from office, the working from home office, where them even where a lot of them haven't even come office for a long come into the office for a long time , this combination with time now, this combination with hmrc failing to answer 10 million calls the million phone calls over the last year. and course the last year. and of course the inefficiency that we've seen in

the with the home office the past with the home office doesn't make good for doesn't make a good case for people to from home. so for people to work from home. so for the this the great british debate, this out, work from out, i'm asking is work from home? is that culture destroying our well, see our society? well, let's see what of that. what my panel make of that. i'm joined and broadcaster joined by author and broadcaster christine and also christine hamilton and also broadcaster danny broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. christine, i'm going to start from start with you this work from home feel almost home culture, people feel almost entitled to it nowadays and it's going to be written in people's contracts. i think that was one of labour propositions that of the labour propositions that every this every employer must offer this well mean, genie is out well, i mean, the genie is out of bottle isn't it? of the bottle now, isn't it? >> for of people it's >> and for a lot of people it's the way of and the normal way of life and they're known as, which is the tuesday, wednesday and thursdays. >> and we do apologise for that. by the way, just to apologise for if anybody for that language. if anybody took offence, but say wednesday, thursday, an thursday, she's using it as an analogy, insult, analogy, not not an insult, but please it again. please don't say it again. >> okay. right . or churches >> okay. all right. or churches shirking. shirking from home is the only way, but it only appues the only way, but it only applies to about 20% of the workforce. 80% of people can't workforce. 80% of people can't work from home because the nature of their job means that they so a stop laughing . they can't. so a stop laughing. >> say that .

>> you can't say that. >> you can't say that. >> what do mean? i can't say >> what do you mean? i can't say that. 20% of the. >> you could say that. i can say that i it. that i love it. >> i'm about to say >> nothing i'm about to say anything now. >> thankfully, you didn't do the next tuesday. one, right? >> so what's your >> anyway, danny. so what's your view on anyway? >> all i. >> all i. >> steve sorry . >> steve sorry. >> steve sorry. >> go on. >>- >> go on. >> no, no, no. it depends . >> no, no, no. it depends. >> no, no, no. it depends. >> look, it depends on the job that pays piper ? he that he who pays the piper? he who the piper plays the who pays the piper plays the tune. so if your boss wants you to come into the office for five days, four days, whatever it is, a week, if you don't like that, then you get another job. >> quite working >> well, it's not quite working out you'd think so, out like that. you'd think so, but not shaping i >> -- >> it's horses for courses and everybody has to find their own equilibrium. but people cannot expect to be entitled to work from if their company or from home if their company or their organisation doesn't want that. danny i, i. >> at the risk of coming across as a tuesday wednesday and thursday, i disagree . thursday, i disagree. >> you're self—employed. no i lie to you. >> do you know what i really enjoy? i agree with matthew stadlen. i love the buzz of an

office and i also agree with the pimlico plumber guy. office and i also agree with the pimlico plumber guy . charlie. pimlico plumber guy. charlie. charlie. yeah, i think he's a fabulous i agree with fabulous character. i agree with the social aspect and it improves you as an individual rather than just sitting in front of a laptop at home. and i can tell you right now, if was can tell you right now, if i was allowed to from in the allowed to work from home in the form bbc journalist form of being a bbc journalist or programmer, or a computer programmer, i would be the laziest employee even would be the laziest employee ever. would i would be so ever. i would i would be so under and i'd just do what i had to do in order to make it look like i'm actually performing. but at nine. i'd but i'd get up at half nine. i'd watch telly, watch the boxes. >> i don't think it'd be any good for waistline. it good for your waistline. it would be it would be by the way, it decreasing. it is decreasing. >> it's nice of >> i've lost £40. it's nice of you to recognise. >> should we tell people that whenever there's a break, danny goes corner and goes round the corner and watches football. watches the football. >> gb news loyalist. >> so i'm a gb news loyalist. only when there's football . only when there's football. >> but i thought matthew made a very point. actually. very good point. actually. he was who was in was the only person who was in the a discussion the studio and a discussion i mean, if the three of us. >> that wasn't a good point at all. >> the three of us were in separate just looking at separate homes just looking at our television screens, it

wouldn't be anything like that. >> also, i think charlie >> but also, i think charlie made point about example made the point about the example that to kids when they made the point about the example thattheir to kids when they made the point about the example thattheir parentsis when they made the point about the example thattheir parents lazing| they made the point about the example thattheir parents lazing around see their parents lazing around at home rather than working . at home rather than working. >> but what about social cohesion, though? because the point are point that a lot of people are making destroying making is that is it destroying the ability to the ability for people to communicate effectively ? because communicate effectively? because if people simply looking if people are simply looking down doing, down the lens and doing, you know, remember , you know, because i remember, you know, because i remember, you know, remember when there know, because i remember, you kn0\the remember when there know, because i remember, you kn0\the zoom remember when there know, because i remember, you kn0\the zoom reme|and' when there know, because i remember, you kn0\the zoom reme|and everyonezre was the zoom days and everyone was the zoom days and everyone was and the pandemic was was on zoom and the pandemic was there and there were moments on zoom where didn't realise there and there were moments on zoom vthere didn't realise there and there were moments on zoom vthere are didn't realise there and there were moments on zoom vthere are camerast realise there and there were moments on zoom vthere are cameras orlalise they're there are cameras or whatever or the thing whatever were on or the thing was on, and would some was on, and they would say some ridiculous things and everyone could it kind of could hear them. but it kind of didn't really. you wanted to be there. wanted to, know there. you wanted to, you know what people what i mean? the social people meet they're to going meet people. they're to going marry at work and things like that. >> but what's interesting about that, that covid, you remembers that during covid, you had option. everybody had no option. so everybody organised and organised these zoom calls and you of wine or you got a glass of wine or whatever, you called your whatever, and you called your mates. nobody does that anymore, do they ? yes, but shows that do they? yes, but it shows that it's what people it's not what people want to socialise people you want socialise with. people you want to see them and you would only

have a zoom call with somebody if it was physically impossible have a zoom call with somebody if it wethem.;ically impossible to see them. >> wasn't valid to see them. >> you wasn't valid to see them. >> you can'tasn't valid to see them. >> you can't expect|lid to see them. >> you can't expect people because you can't expect people to their to to give up their sundays to commute a city centre commute into a city centre studio, taking that seriously. >> i'm just oh goodness . >> no, i'm just oh my goodness. >> no, i'm just oh my goodness. >> i'm not talking about you. i'm about you. i'm i'm not talking about you. i'm just that just talking about a point that was a panellist. you was raised by a panellist. you can't expect people like charlie mullins and other mullins and the other two individuals maybe cross individuals just to maybe cross the city just five minutes. individuals just to maybe cross the lofj just five minutes. individuals just to maybe cross the lof course, five minutes. individuals just to maybe cross the lof course, fiv> well, it does seem to be. a lot of organisations are saying that productive to that it's more productive to have the office have people in the office because you can actually see what doing know, what they're doing and you know, there you know, there are some very, you know, some might work some people it might work for, but lot of people will be but a lot of people will be doing between that and doing this in between that and this that. i when i go this and that. i know when i go home got my children and home i've got my children and this that this and that going on that i might more productive. but might be more productive. but everything takes longer. >> nowadays, if you ask >> and also nowadays, if you ask a young person, getting a young person, they're getting married did you meet a young person, they're getting marjtimes did you meet a young person, they're getting marjtimes of did you meet a young person, they're getting marjtimes of whatever1eet a young person, they're getting marjtimes of whatever it's 999 times out of whatever it's we met the internet because

we met on the internet because they're going they're not to going work anymore. meeting they're not to going work anymoranymore. meeting they're not to going work anymoranymore. it's meeting they're not to going work anymoranymore. it's what:ing they're not to going work anymoranymore. it's what you've people anymore. it's what you've just said where you meet, you meet people. just said where you meet, you meet p> but whether or not you marry someone at it's fact someone at work, it's the fact that actually yes, that you are actually yes, you actually socialise with individuals. think that is actually socialise with in massive ;. think that is actually socialise with inmassive void think that is actually socialise with inmassive void forthink that is actually socialise with in massive void for people at is actually socialise with in massive void for people who a massive void for people who just sit in front of a laptop at home. i really do. i think that they are missing out on life, but i think hybrid working, which is what what it is, if you're bit of one and you're doing a bit of one and a bit of the other is probably the new a large number people. >> well, think where it's >> well, i think where it's where possible and where where it's possible and where it's many cases. where it's possible and where it's for many cases. where it's possible and where it's for example, many cases. where it's possible and where it's for example, ifjany cases. where it's possible and where it's for example, if someone's so, for example, if someone's disabled there's disabled or there's some situation they situation where, well, they can't the office. can't come into the office. but to it was me and to be honest, if it was me and i also look at their productivity levels too, because if it's a key, mean, look at the home key, i mean, look at the home office, they not be the office, they should not be the at need be at home office. they need to be in the office. that's what they need be. hmrc as well. need to be. and hmrc as well. there's justification for there's no justification for those as well because those people as well because half they answer half the time they don't answer the on there the phone. you'll be on there for so where that for ages. so where that productivity is slipping, but also my focus this also but my main focus of this question the social question is actually the social aspect there a aspect and whether there is a problem it. and what

problem with it. and by what you're think you're saying, you both think there but want to find out there is. but i want to find out what they because the show what they think because the show is our viewers. is nothing without our viewers. so let's welcome our so let's welcome some of our great on their great british voices on their opportunity to be on the show and think and tell us what they think about we're about the topics we're discussing. four of discussing. i've got four of them. start with dr. them. let's start with dr. cecilie mudaliar milton cecilie mudaliar from milton keynes. so essentially, do you think working keynes. so essentially, do you think home working keynes. so essentially, do you think home of working keynes. so essentially, do you think home of eroding, from home is kind of eroding, eroding the fabric of society in a way good afternoon, nana great to see you . to see you. >> and you look amazing. you really missed you . i'm sure i'm really missed you. i'm sure i'm not the first one to tell you how amazing you look in terms of hybnd how amazing you look in terms of hybrid working and work from home culture. i don't think it's necessarily destroying society, to be honest. >> working from home culture has helped , especially during the helped, especially during the pandemic and also with the cost of living crisis as it's helped to reduce costs for people travelling into work . travelling into work. >> it's helped businesses reduce their overheads as well . so their overheads as well. so i think moving forward we should think moving forward we should think about working from home. there are so many benefits to

working from home culture and also in terms of work life balance and wellbeing of people as well. let's go to david. >> i want to ask david. david, what do you think is eroding the fabnc what do you think is eroding the fabric of society? >> i think hybrid working is here to stay. >> they didn't think about it when they wanted to when they wanted everyone to work home. work from home. >> are certain jobs like >> there are certain jobs like i'm can't do that for i'm a pc, i can't do that for people working from home. >> but there are otherjobs where you really should be in the because do get the office because you do get that buzz from everybody else. >> can ask questions. >> they can ask questions. you've problem. think you've got a problem. so i think we with a hybrid of 3 or we end up with a hybrid of 3 or 4, three days a week in the office, days at home. but office, two days at home. but you to people all the you have to give people all the opportunity to show that they can actually from home can actually work from home successfully, don't allow successfully, just don't allow they lounge because they don't lounge about because they don't lounge about because they working . they are working. >> it for young >> you can't do it for young people. mean, they actually people. i mean, they actually probably want to be the probably want to be in the office, but also have office, but also they have no track webb you know what? >> working from home productivity side of things can be just sorted with an app. >> a company can put an app onto your then you have

your computer and then you have to in and then they can to sign in and then they can check you're doing on that check what you're doing on that computer. their as computer. during their time as we've what kind of we've sort of like what kind of effects has for society. i effects it has for society. i think it does have an effect for society. stops people getting society. it stops people getting together. creativity happens when get together . i run when we all get together. i run an online fitness business s and my best creativity, the best way that i my best creativity, the best way thati can my best creativity, the best way that i can download stuff and get work done is actually in the coffee shop. when people are around me , i don't have to talk around me, i don't have to talk to them. >> i just want people around me when my work. when i'm doing my work. >> the website? what's >> what's the website? what's what's address for your what's the address for your fitness thing? if people to fitness thing? if people want to go look at it, it's go and have a look at it, it's body first. >> .co.uk there go. >> .co.uk there you go. >> .co.uk there you go. >> alan mcneilly i'll give >> alan mcneilly so i'll give you that. alan mcneilly afternoon. >> nana welcome back. thank you . i think it's a bit of a con nana to be quite honest. i think there are a lot of people who abuse the system and it definitely has an impact on the inner city and places like pubs, restaurants, cycling hours, all

those sorts of things . so there those sorts of things. so there can be specific occasions, i think when working from home can be really good. you need peace and quiet to do a specific piece of work. but you're not in of work. but if you're not in the office, that means that someone else has to do the work that's for that's coming into the for office you. own personal office you. my own personal experience is that there are an awful lot of people who take the mickey when it comes to working from means that those from home. that means that those who in office, who remain in the office, they're have to they're the people who have to pick pieces. so pick up all the pieces. so i think it's a bad thing for multiple , multiple reasons. but multiple, multiple reasons. but i think there are occasions when it can be when it can be very, very helpful. >> yeah . yeah. well, thank you >> yeah. yeah. well, thank you very much for nicely put very much for that. nicely put in milton keynes. thank you so much, david watford, lee in much, david in watford, lee in bedford, grimsby, bedford, and alan in grimsby, thank thoughts. but thank you for your thoughts. but now it's time for my quick fire. my mini, my mini debate. and we are to going be discussing a few things because basically there's been interesting incident been an interesting incident where our canadian cricketer danielle mcghee is set to become the first transgender player in an official international match.

now, danielle's participation comes despite sports like comes despite other sports like athletics , cycling, swimming athletics, cycling, swimming and rugby, transgender women rugby, banning transgender women from in elite from taking part in elite women's competition. she said it's absolute honour to be it's an absolute honour to be able to represent my community. sharon davis has called it utter madness. see what my panel madness. let's see what my panel make of that. christine and danny christine, going to danny, christine, i'm going to start why sharon davis start with you. why sharon davis has absolutely amazing on has been absolutely amazing on all this and she has has taken a huge amount of flak and she gets a lot of abuse on social media for standing up for what i think is common sense, which is that transgender women or transgender men are never quite sure what you're supposed to go on. >> but people like danielle mcgahey should not be allowed to play mcgahey should not be allowed to play english in women's play in english in women's cricket. any more than it's just absurd . she's 29. she moved to absurd. she's 29. she moved to nonh absurd. she's 29. she moved to north america in february, transitioned to a woman, and she's now playing for women's cricket teams. she's far stronger . stronger. >> is she a man, though? is she still a man with all the i mean, i don't know exactly what operations she said. >> i'm terrified to speak now

because i used because of a word i used earlier, which people of my generation, way, is generation, by the way, is a perfectly it's only perfectly normal word. it's only become perfectly normal word. it's only bec let's go quickly. >> let's go quickly. >> let's go quickly. >> in recent years, >> unacceptable in recent years, danny, i don't know what >> okay, so i don't know what i don't know what she's had speciality danielle, whether he's a oh, i'm just i'm sorry. whether he's a bowler or a batsman. but one thing she for a start. no, no, no, you can't. >>— start. no, no, no, you can't. >> you can't force me to. >>— >> you can't force me to. >> to know , to say she or he. >> to know, to say she or he. >>— >> to know, to say she or he. >> she goes as a she now. >> she goes as a she now. >> yeah. well she might. >> yeah. well she might. >> well she might. right anyway so, when he's thundering down so, so when he's thundering down the cricket pitch like at 20 miles an hour more than a woman is. and the power of this lads bowl, you're going to find out pretty quick what it's like to be to face a fast bowler fast ball from a bloke. yeah yeah. you're going to knock someone's head off. >> yeah, well, so. so i don't get it. i don't understand what the obsession is by. by accepting that man can be accepting that a man can be a woman. a woman can be a man. they cannot compete in these kind of sports together it's kind of sports together. it's dangerous for women, is what i see. danny, it's now

see. but danny, it's time now for sunday. is for supplement sunday. this is the show where i the part of the show where i find stories have find some stories that have caught find some stories that have cauby find some stories that have cau by the way, chesney right >> by the way, chesney was right . it's not she wasn't the first person to say how brilliant you look right ? chesney was look today right? chesney was the second. okay. listen to this. a horse rider named mrs. honeycomb was stung more than 60 times. okay the irony of the name , she was stung more than 60 name, she was stung more than 60 times by a swarm of angry bees and her horse . i'd like to say and her horse. i'd like to say the horse's name was jam jar, but i'm lying. it was called blue . her. her pony suffered 80 blue. her. her pony suffered 80 stings and needed emergency treatment from a vet. but the irony is the comedic irony is the surname. >> oh, is it right. the surname. >> oh, is it right . okay. that >> oh, is it right. okay. that was good, right? christine >> well, this is. is news to me. and i imagine to quite a lot of other people. but apparently macbeth is incredibly racist and american has sparked american expert has sparked uproar by claiming that the play's reference to darkness this is shakespeare's references are an attempt to reinforce ideas of white supremacy. can catherine romero santos insists that the bard's use of words

such as bat , beetle and black such as bat, beetle and black and night are racialized language . language. >> why are people so obsessed with this nonsense? it's a play written in back in the day . written in back in the day. exactly. want to read exactly. if you want to read that it, that's up you. that into it, that's up to you. but god, know it's race but god, i know it's a race play, apparently. >> to her. >> well, listen to her. >> well, listen to her. >> well, listen to her. >> well, i'll do my supplement is actually to sussex. he was is actually to do sussex. he was spotted his mother spotted celebrating his mother in birthday in law's 67th birthday at a beyonce gig california . now, beyonce gig in california. now, he was photographed watching the concert this in this stadium. concert in this in this stadium. and he looks so miserable, didn't he? >> anyway . or else you want it >> anyway. or else you want it to be but the never seen him looking so miserable. >> perhaps he doesn't blt >> perhaps he doesn't like blt prince charles. >> everybody loves beyonce. he she was prince charles's pin up, wasn't she ? wasn't she? >> should. it william? >> he should. was it william? >> he should. was it william? >> doesn't to go. just >> he doesn't want to go. just say don't want to go. say no. i don't want to go. i hate beyonce. >> going to say no to >> i'm not going to say no to meghan. what is it? well, listen, on show, i've listen, on today's show, i've been trust to been asking, who do you trust to fix when , fix broken britain when, according to a twitter poll, 16.8% you say conservatives , 16.8% of you say conservatives, 15.8% of you say labour. 2.4%

say liberal democrats, 55% of you say reform . oh, wow. well, you say reform. oh, wow. well, thank you so much to my panel. thank you so much to you, danny kelly. love you very much indeed.thank kelly. love you very much indeed. thank you very much. nice you. good to have nice to see you. good to have you back, thank you so much you back, nana thank you so much to you, christina. >> i'm sorry i wore same >> i'm sorry i wore the same colour. colour. it's colour. the same colour. it's really good. done. really not good. not done. >> temperatures rising, >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar the proud sponsors of weather . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. some cloud around for parts of scotland today and lingering along coastlines, but for many of us there is a fine amount of weather. so we managed to weather. so we have managed to enjoy it. that remain so as enjoy it. that will remain so as we head into this evening as well. a nice, calm end to the day for some some day for most, some with some fog, forming overnight, fog, though, forming overnight, particularly fog, though, forming overnight, partictowards southeastern areas down towards southeastern areas of england could also be quite murky northern ireland, murky for northern ireland, southern of scotland, as southern areas of scotland, as well, mild night well, but a fairly mild night for us. towns and cities for most of us. towns and cities only up around 1314 c under the lightest winds for northern

ireland, northern england, we could drop single figures. could drop into single figures. so a slightly fresher start to monday again, monday morning here. but again, once fog once that early mist and fog does way off, does clear its way off, it should a fairly fine and should be a fairly fine and sunny day for many of us, quite blustery most west blustery around most of the west country. the strong winds country. but the strong winds across the will easing across the north will be easing across the north will be easing a touch and the rain just mainly lingering shetland. lingering across shetland. so the inner the highlands, the inner hebndes the highlands, the inner hebrides a better on hebrides seeing a better day on monday to today with monday compared to today with that temperatures that sunshine. temperatures climbing degree climbing up a degree also compared today's values compared to today's values widely in the mid high or 20s. and that high pressure is staying with us as we head into tuesday and we'll start tapping into southerly of air into a southerly flow of air from europe well. into a southerly flow of air fro temperatures europe well. into a southerly flow of air fro temperatures willype well. into a southerly flow of air fro temperatures will be well. into a southerly flow of air fro temperatures will be on well. into a southerly flow of air fro temperatures will be on the .. so temperatures will be on the rise again . a good amount rise once again. a good amount of sunshine to start off tuesday . higher base cloud . a bit of higher base cloud around times may make the around at times may make the sunshine in places sunshine hazy in places and again along some again still lingering along some coastal scotland. but coastal areas of scotland. but with that sunshine, as mentioned, temperatures climbing towards 30 c, something we haven't seen since the 7th of july by by the temperatures rising . rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .

prime minister to publish a list of all schools at risk with more than 100 told to fully or partially close just days before the new term begins. experts are warning the problem is being complicated by the coexistence of asbestos in schools and other pubuc of asbestos in schools and other public buildings. the shadow education secretary bridget phillipson, says the government should have acted sooner. >> i appreciate that lots of parents across the country will be concerned because , as you be concerned because, as you know, sadly many children are not going to be able to return to education or will be moved into portacabins or alternative accommodation because of the risk that this kind crumbling risk that this kind of crumbling concrete to pose. it concrete is going to pose. it all feels very last minute and what we're calling on the government to do is to publish a full list of all of the schools affected so that parents can be confident about where the problems and if they're not problems are. and if they're not prepared to that, we will prepared to do that, we will force vote in parliament this force a vote in parliament this week to it happen. week to make it happen. >> number of people crossing >> the number of people crossing the boats has the channel in small boats has hit daily record for this hit a new daily record for this year 872 migrants in 15 dinghies