and so i'm wondering, do we invest in our prisons properly .7 invest in our prisons properly? and according to a study, britain is one of the least work oriented countries in the world. apparently, only 70% of us regard work as an important part of life. and what is that a problem? i don't know. you tell me. and i'm asking, are we being

manipulated when it comes to the way the media reports climate change? that is an allegation that's made by a leading that's been made by a leading climate scientist. but is it right? and one year anniversary of us losing our beloved queen. we'll reflect on that and look at the state of the monarchy now we've got it all to come. and more. before get into it, more. but before we get into it, let's bring ourselves up to speed tonight's latest speed with tonight's latest headlines. >> good evening. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. our top stories , the met police has stories, the met police has confirmed a sighting of escaped prisoner daniel cliff . he was prisoner daniel cliff. he was last seen near wandsworth roundabout walking towards the town centre. they're offering a £20,000 reward for information that leads to his arrest. they also released images of the chef's uniform that he escaped in. commander dominic murphy is head of the met's counter—terror command. he's urging cliff to give himself up . give himself up. >> my message to daniel is to give himself up. we will be

closing in on you. the public are motivated and trying to find you . we've had excellent support you. we've had excellent support from the media here. it's only a matter of time before we find you. and i would appeal to you to call us and we will come and get you or go into your nearest police station and we will detain you to channel migrants who attacked police on a french beach have been jailed . beach have been jailed. >> 33 year old sally tayeb abdullah and 25 year old ahmed omar saleh qatar were sentenced to two years and two months for attempting to arrive in the uk illegally. the pair were part of a violent group who confronted officers near calais as they attempted to stop them launching attempted to stop them launching a small boat, a grand jury in the united states is recommending charges be brought against three republican senators over their alleged efforts to reverse the result of the 2020 election. they say georgia's two senators at the time, kelly loeffler and david perdue , should be charged along perdue, should be charged along with senator lindsey graham of

south carolina. so far, 19 people, including former president trump, have been indicted and explodes of experts have closed the channel tunnel after a suspicious vehicle was stopped. police say the incident is not linked to the search for terror suspect daniel kalief . terror suspect daniel kalief. security services have been carrying out stricter checks in a bid to find him. the british army has been called in to inspect the vehicle . the latest inspect the vehicle. the latest incident causing more travel delays for motorists at the terminal in folkestone . gun terminal in folkestone. gun salutes have been fired in london to mark the first anniversary of the late queen's death and the king's accession to the throne . they were held in to the throne. they were held in hyde park and at the tower of london with soldiers and horses who took part in the state. funeral procession returned for those gun salutes in the king's honoun those gun salutes in the king's honour. charles and camilla attend a private service of prayer. this morning in the church near balmoral, where the late queen worshipped . the king

late queen worshipped. the king also recorded a special audio message in memory of his mother in marking the first anniversary of her late majesty's death and my accession in we recall with great affection her long life devoted service and all she meant to so many of us. >> i am deeply well. >> i am deeply well. >> meanwhile, in an exclusive interview with gb news former prime minister liz truss revealed details of her meeting with the queen two days before she died . she died. >> the meeting at balmoral , you >> the meeting at balmoral, you know, she was absolutely on top of what was happening . she was of what was happening. she was very, very keen , keen to very, very keen, keen to reassure me that we'd be meeting again soon. the assumption absolutely was that this would be the first of many meetings the prime minister says a free trade deal with india is not a given and not top of his agenda ahead of the g20 summit in delhi. >> rishi sunak is expected to

encourage india's pm narendra modi to end his policy of neutrality to russia. he'll also urge world leaders to address the war in ukraine. he's refused to commit to having a trade agreement in place before the next election . next election. >> it's vital that the uk has a close relationship with india, particularly a close economic relationship . ukip. but when it relationship. ukip. but when it comes to trade deals , you know, comes to trade deals, you know, i always said that it would be good to have an ambitious and comprehensive trade deal with india. for all those reasons, but we can't rush it and i won't rush it. i've always said i want to take to get trade to take the time to get trade deals right. so that they work for the british people. they work the lots of work for the uk, and lots of progress has made on this progress has been made on this one, we're there yet, so one, but we're not there yet, so we've to keep going. we've got to keep going. >> rail has been fined >> network rail has been fined £6.7 admitting to £6.7 million after admitting to a safety failings that a number of safety failings that resulted in three people being killed in a crash in aberdeenshire , a train driver, a aberdeenshire, a train driver, a conductor and a passenger died when a train was derailed near stonehaven because heavy rain stonehaven because of heavy rain and landslide in 2020. the

and a landslide in 2020. the fine was reduced from £10 million because the operator pleaded guilty to maintenance failures and accepted that it didn't warn the driver or tell him to slow down. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to . michelle thanks for that to. michelle thanks for that michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight. >> alongside me, daniel moylan, a tory peer in the house of lords and laurie laban, a policy researcher, researcher. good evening, gentlemen. nice to see you again. i've not seen you for a little while . you know the a little while. you know the drill as well, don't you? it's not just about us three. it's very much guys at home very much about you guys at home as what's your mind as well. what's on your mind tonight? get in touch tonight? you can get in touch with me all the usual ways. email is gbviews@gbnews.com. or you me at gb news. now you can tweet me at gb news. now the big top story of course, we've been hearing the we've just been hearing in the bulletins there, the met police

have confirmed now the first official the escaped official sighting of the escaped terror suspect, daniel khelaifi, a witness apparently saw the guy jump a witness apparently saw the guy jump from a van or come out, should i say , from under a van should i say, from under a van at wandsworth roundabout now, £20,000 reward for information is offered, of course, by the police . i just have to chip in police. i just have to chip in with my £0.02 worth. this is i happen to know for various reasons the area incredibly well . wandsworth roundabout is .wandsworth roundabout is heaving, to put it mildly. it's just to give you a little bit of context. you've got a mcdonald's on one side of the roundabout. you've got a huge underpass. on the other massive of residential development . it's about, i don't development. it's about, i don't know, one minute from the river thames. if you wanted to walk that way, you've got a big, massive wandsworth bridge, which is currently closed it's is currently closed and it's been will be closed been closed or it will be closed for ten weeks. you've got a park on children's on the roundabout children's playground roundabout, playground on the roundabout, you've station, you've got a train station, restaurants , cafes, you name it. restaurants, cafes, you name it. it very , very busy it is a very, very busy location. so i'm astonished that if indeed he come out from

if indeed he did come out from under that van there, i'm astonished that there's not been more him. more sightings of him. >> can't explain that, >> well, i can't explain that, michelle. don't know why michelle. i don't know why i'm looking at you. i don't know why i want to. i looking at you. i don't know why iwant to. i mean, i agree i want you to. i mean, i agree with you. it's a bit it is a busy roundabout, but maybe maybe it's the case that that if you busy roundabout, but maybe maybe it's tito case that that if you busy roundabout, but maybe maybe it's tito doe that that if you busy roundabout, but maybe maybe it's tito do something if you busy roundabout, but maybe maybe it's tito do something funny, the want to do something funny, the best place to do it when best place to do it is when you're surrounded of you're surrounded by lots of people and not not in some isolated spot where where any random would you. random passing would notice you. but i don't know what but i can't i don't know what reflect like because i don't know about you. >> know might be a bit of >> i know it might be a bit of an i do kind of an odd mindset, but i do kind of put the mind, try and put myself in the mind, try and put myself in the mind, try and put myself in mind of this put myself in the mind of this person. and i think if i was going to come out from underneath think underneath a van, i think i would like to do it down a side quiet street as opposed to in full so don't know. full view. so i don't know. sometimes think maybe i should sometimes i think maybe i should have been a detective in a former life or something. >> seen some stuff >> i've seen some weird stuff in wandsworth, though. >> oh, have you? >> oh, have you? >> i mean, no like >> yeah. i mean, no one like coming out from under a van, but you blend into crowd. get on you blend into the crowd. get on with day. someone noticed with your day. someone noticed it as well.

>> yeah, but just astonished >> yeah, but i'm just astonished that there's only one. and i'm also astonished you also astonished as to why you would guess. would just jump, i guess. >> he know was >> how did he know it was wandsworth? i don't want to think. yeah but how did know think. yeah but how did he know it wandsworth roundabout? if it was wandsworth roundabout? if he's a van because, he's under a van because, i mean, would know? mean, how would you know? >> way too much time >> i spend way too much time thinking about this kind of stuff. i confess, but this stuff. i do confess, but this escape, guy, has escape, surely this guy, he has been for a long been planning this for a long time. you don't just wake up one morning. delivery morning. i think i delivery van. i'm to going attach myself to the undercarriage of that. and off surely will have off i go. surely you will have planned i was going to escape planned if i was going to escape prison, have spent weeks prison, i'd have spent weeks and months this months planning this thing. i would know twist and turn would know every twist and turn on road. i would what on the road. i would know what was anyway , i tell you was going on anyway, i tell you what, also know which way what, you also know which way exactly the lorry was going to be driving. >> yes, you'd know what its route and you'd be able route was and you'd be able you'd be looking out for that mcdonald's the under mcdonald's from under the under the maybe. maybe the lorry. yeah, maybe. maybe that's maybe he that's what it was. maybe he just wanted because at that time in the they're still in the morning, they're still doing breakfast doing their breakfast menu. >> does not love >> who and who does not love a sausage and egg mcmuffin with a

hash brown? anyway, i just hash brown? anyway, shall i just get talk about the real get on and talk about the real point story? point of the story? >> the other thing that he would have planned or he would have noficed have planned or he would have noticed of plan is noticed as part of his plan is that loss of about 30% that there's a loss of about 30% of staff in one. >> well, yes, this was the point that i was going come on to that i was going to come on to before distracted by before i got distracted by putting mind of an putting myself in the mind of an escaped convict . is the fact escaped convict. is the fact that there's been huge criticism . they're saying is . right. what they're saying is that hugely that this prison was hugely overpopulated . it was massively overpopulated. it was massively understaffed. and of course, rishi sunak i mean , he gets the rishi sunak i mean, he gets the blame for everything, quite frankly. he's depher is frankly. so now he's depher is going get the blame for this. going to get the blame for this. but are we under investing in our prisons? yes i mean, that's a general end of debate. a general end of that debate. then go then everyone, should we just go to the break? i'm only teasing, but general situation but that's a general situation in right ? in the country right? >> roofs, school >> primary school roofs, school roofs falling in prisons, roofs are falling in prisons, have not got enough staff to make that prisoners aren't make sure that prisoners aren't escaping. the list escaping. you know, the list goes on. so we are goes on and on and on. so we are suffering years and suffering now from years and years of underinvestment. anyone knows owns business, if knows who owns a business, if you want to invest, at least the consequences. anyone knows who

lives you're lives in a house, if you're under you get bad under in it, you get bad consequences same is consequences. the same thing is happening the prison happening now, and the prison service one of those pressure service is one of those pressure points where the failure to invest is leading big invest is leading to big problems escaping i >> -- >> well, -_ >> well, i'm going to say something to i'm going something unpopular to i'm going to say that i think we send people to prison , too many people to prison, too many people to prison, too many people to prison, and we send them too long. and it them for far too long. and it doesn't do any good. and then when we find the prisons are heaving with people like we've got 3000 ipp prisoners in jail at the moment who shouldn't even be there. and that's out of 80,000. that's quite a significant chunk of the estate and they shouldn't even be there because those prisoners, those prison sentences have been found to be illegal. and we've seen people to jail and everyone is demanding longer and longer sentences like it was america . sentences like it was america. you know, we'll be up to 150 year sentence before we know where we are. and that's a big change in our sentencing policy over the last 30 or 40 years. and what has it done is any

good? it's certainly filled the prisons up. it's certainly made them to manage , and it them harder to manage, and it certainly means that we are you know, we're seeing the problems we're seeing. i'm not saying one, i mean, in any prison system, somebody will escape from time to time and you can't have 100% total success in keeping people locked up. i remember some big escapes from when i was young, so somebody will escape. it's wrong . we will escape. it's wrong. we should catch we normally do catch them when somebody escapes. i don't put too much weight but the fact is weight on that. but the fact is weight on that. but the fact is we don't want to pay for the prison system have and we prison system we have and we don't want to say, but we do want to say lock them up, lock them up longer, longer, longer. so we've got to make a decision, which to be? do you which is it going to be? do you want to pay that or not? want to pay for that or not? >> yeah, i'm happy pay for >> yeah, i'm happy to pay for that. yeah, i'm happy to pay for. you would be. for. i knew you would be. >> i did say to the producer, you know, michelle and i won't agree this. agree on this. >> i'm absolutely happy to >> yeah, i'm absolutely happy to pay a >> yeah, i'm absolutely happy to pay a little bit more tax if you could guarantee what could guarantee me that what you're do is invest it

you're going to do is invest it in law order in particular in law and order in particular in law and order in particular in people off the streets in taking people off the streets that quite frankly, got no that quite frankly, have got no business there because business being there because they how behave they don't know how to behave when they're on them. these ips that you mentioned were debated that you mentioned were debated that a few that the other day, and a few people were not happy with me. someone was watching actually that an ipp. i that is connected to an ipp. i think she a member or think she was a family member or something. they reached out something. and they reached out to on twitter and said, to me on twitter and said, michelle, need to get in michelle, you need to get in touch with us. know, touch with us. and, you know, we're going to talk to about we're going to talk to you about the miscarriage of justice. so you you've just you know what? you've just prompted i must take up prompted me. i must take them up on offer because i should on that offer because i should i'd fascinated, actually, i'd be fascinated, actually, to learn bit more about learn a little bit more about that. to give you that. just to give you some stats go, 86,000 prison stats before i go, 86,000 prison hours, you be hours, of course, you won't be surprised that they are surprised to know that they are mainly the most popular age mainly men. the most popular age category being prison is category for being in prison is 30 to 39 year olds. you've got some people in there over over the age of 70, apparently in the year 2021 to 2022, there was 54 prisoners released in error , prisoners released in error, which caught my eye, i think how on earth do you release somebody accidentally? what's that all about ? 20? about 23,000 prison

about? 20? about 23,000 prison staff in post at the moment. apparently 14.1 days was the average working days that were lost to sick. and i'll tell you what i found quite interesting thing. in fact, actually, i'll turn this way to you, laurie. life after prison. these are the government's prison stats. life after life after prison . only 4% after life after prison. only 4% of prisons achieve their target for employing it. at six weeks following release and get this, only 17% of prisons accommodate a target for accommodation for first night release . so you're first night release. so you're out of prison night number one, have these people got somewhere to go? >> so i think this links to daniel's point. i agree with him about how we shouldn't have as many people putting being put into jail necessarily in the first instance. i think that it would be a big mistake if we are moving towards american. in some ways, i think it does feel like that because there are now let's be very clear, that doesn't mean a blanket of saying, oh,

a blanket policy of saying, oh, well, we need to suppress numbers. it means being very well, we need to suppress numtabout means being very well, we need to suppress numtabout specificbeing very well, we need to suppress numtabout specific areas very well, we need to suppress numtabout specific areas ofy clear about specific areas of crime and understanding jail crime and understanding if jail is first thing to is the best. and first thing to be to deal with that crime, be done to deal with that crime, to and also to to deliverjustice and also to hopefully rehabilitate it. so this those stats that you this is those stats that you just me there. if just read out to me there. if we've got the problem of putting people jail, of people into jail, we then of course, the problem of what happens they come out of it happens when they come out of it as well. that's another as well. and that's another problem rehabilitation. and as well. and that's another prci lem rehabilitation. and as well. and that's another prci generallyrehabilitation. and as well. and that's another prci generally agreelitation. and as well. and that's another prci generally agree with)n. and as well. and that's another prci generally agree with what|d so i generally agree with what daniel saying. needs to daniel is saying. there needs to be better process where we be a better process where we think, let's right think, let's strip it right back. people committed back. people have committed crimes. multitude of crimes. there are multitude of crimes. there are multitude of crimes levels of crimes with different levels of severity. to deliver severity. we need to deliver justice and also want to justice and we also want to rehabilitate people so justice and we also want to rehaicanate people so justice and we also want to rehaican be people so justice and we also want to rehaican be functionalle so justice and we also want to rehaican be functional and) they can be functional and useful back society well. useful back in society as well. and will sometimes and that will that sometimes means probably means that they probably shouldn't jail. shouldn't even go to jail. >> i believe in prevention >> but i believe in prevention really. rehabilitation. really. so, yes, rehabilitation. yeah lovely, sweet word. let's all hug prisoners and high five them and all the rest of it. wonderful but i would like actually tougher in the actually to be tougher in the first instance, particularly on like crimes things like minor crimes and things like minor crimes and things like i think like that. because i think actually you have zero actually if you have a zero tolerance, nonsense approach

tolerance, no nonsense approach tolerance, no nonsense approach to the smaller things in life, you might actually find that you then prevent people from going on committing the more then prevent people from going on crimestting the more then prevent people from going on crimes that the more then prevent people from going on crimes that would)re then prevent people from going on crimes that would see serious crimes that would see them locked for longer and them locked up for longer and all of it later on down all the rest of it later on down the but there is a soft the line. but there is a soft bonein the line. but there is a soft bone in my body. daniel because i believe that you've i do believe that once you've served your time and all the rest would like you. rest of it, i would like you. and think it's better for the and i think it's better for the general public if you are reintegrated into society, particularly into work. and i think a stigma around think there is a stigma around employing criminal employing people with a criminal record . and i think it's made record. and i think it's made very hard for people that have got criminal to got a criminal record to actually employment . is actually get into employment. is that right, do you think? >> yeah, it is. and there's at least one high street chain, which associated a which is associated with a charity which deliberately sets out employ people timpson's, out to employ people timpson's, which employ exactly fabulous. >> they're fabulous to employ people who've come out of prison and they're perhaps there should be more of that. >> and that is a really good thing for people to do. but i will just say generally, if you want to train somebody for employment and help them to be a

well—integrated member of society, you will not achieve that in prison. that is a very, very strange way of going about that task . that task. >> that's in fact in step >> but that's in fact in step one. believe step one one. i believe in step one prevention. >> you lock them up for 30 years or is, years with or whatever it is, 20 years with a load of people who we a whole load of people who we know and especially you put people short sentences. people in for short sentences. we know that they do is it we know that all they do is it makes them more criminally minded. they exposed more minded. they get exposed to more criminal people. even the terrorist . they get exposed to terrorist. they get exposed to more on the streets and even the terrorists. not saying more on the streets and even the ter|shouldn't not saying more on the streets and even the ter|shouldn't lock not saying more on the streets and even the ter|shouldn't lock upt saying more on the streets and even the ter|shouldn't lock up dangerous we shouldn't lock up dangerous terrorists, even the terrorists, but even the terrorists, but even the terrorists just get exposed to more terrorism and then you say, now, now we would like we'd like you come out and be you to come out and be confinement. we'd now like you to come out and train to be a lathe or something, you lathe turner or something, you know, be a nice, respectable know, and be a nice, respectable member of society. it's a very know, and be a nice, respectable menway of society. it's a very know, and be a nice, respectable menway of going y. it's a very know, and be a nice, respectable menway of going y. it's it.ery know, and be a nice, respectable menway of going y. it's it. we've odd way of going about it. we've got it all wrong. >> do you think? yeah well, i don't know you guys. >> you've also got to remember, prison quite modern idea. prison is quite a modern idea. yeah, very enlightenment, yeah, it's a very enlightenment, late people late 18th century idea. people never before

then. >> what did they used to do with them before that? >> they either hanged them. they either hanged them for stealing a sheep or they branded them or they or cut they fined them or they cut something off, put them in the putting them or putting in putting them or putting them in the prison is a very the stocks. but prison is a very deliberate and conscious invention of liberals invention of a bunch of liberals like jeremy bentham in the very late 18th, early 19th century. and we've had 200 years of it now, as a means of part of our criminal justice system. and it's not now working. it ceased to work. i'll say one other thing, talking about long sentences, we're very really quickly, you go back to the time when we had hanging for murder. okay? a lot of people who were found guilty of murder, weren't they were all sentenced to be hangedin they were all sentenced to be hanged in court. but many of them were then what's the word? it was remitted to a sentence in jail. the home secretary intervened and they were let off the sentence. do you know how long on average people served for murder if they weren't actually hanged , and how mostly

actually hanged, and how mostly they were out in ten years, right. this idea that you you're in jail for 30 or 40 years, lord moylan, isn't it? >> i love it. »- >> i love it. >> you're in jail for 30 or 40 years. most of them. if they weren't hanged, they'd be sent to jail at her majesty's pleasure. his majesty's whatever pleasure. his majesty's whatever pleasure. them pleasure. and then most of them would out ten years or would be out within ten years or so. and because they were so. and and because they were judged that that judged not to be that that dangerous . dangerous. >> oh, i don't know. maybe i'm just harsh. my experience comes all the way back to when i was a teenagen all the way back to when i was a teenager. i used to live a very different life to the life i lead now. laurie, i'll tell you. and i spent my weekends was in and out of prison visiting my then he was in and out then partner. he was in and out of like a yo—yo. so he of prison like a yo—yo. so he was i've to say, i think was and i've got to say, i think he quite liked it in there. all of mates was in there. he of his mates was in there. he used to get fed and watered. he used to get fed and watered. he used to get fed and watered. he used to the gym and all used to go to the gym and all the rest of it. and i never used to feel like he used to come out and be punished at all. they probably to that probably came home to me. that was probably enough. was probably punishment enough. but that is but anyway, that's that is probably where some of my

sentiment comes let me sentiment comes from. let me know, think we send know, do you think we send enough prison? too enough people to prison? too many. you on it? many. where do you stand on it? few of you getting into that escape as good. escape story as well. good. i thought i was the only one out there has actually thought there that has actually thought through the about through all of the nuances about escaping seems escaping from prison. it seems that not good. that that i'm not good. that reassures anyway. lots to reassures me anyway. lots to come your way. i want to talk to you climate. being you about climate. are we being manipulated with when it comes to what the media presents when it change? it comes to climate change? and also seem to very also we don't seem to be very work in this country. work orientated in this country. apparently only 70% of us think that important part that work is an important part of are you one of

in return for some cheap oil . in return for some cheap oil. >> you're listening to . gb news >> you're listening to. gb news 5 or 10 years. >> hi there. i'm michelle dewberry, keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. the voice that you can hear chirping away in background there whilst in the background there whilst i was introduction is was in dumas introduction is daniel tory peer daniel moylan, the tory peer in the house of lords. he's reading out me a view, a comment as out to me a view, a comment as to i'm all wrong basically to why i'm all wrong basically on the prisons alongside him. laurie policy

laurie laban a policy researcher, keeps his company as well. richard we're talking about the escaped convict . about the escaped convict. richard says surely there must be dashcam footage of his escape. yes richard, this is what i'm saying. escape. yes richard, this is what i'm saying . the ones with what i'm saying. the ones with roundabout is really , really roundabout is really, really busy. these aren't just random roundabout in the middle of nowhere . it's really busy nowhere. it's really busy anyway, clive says daniel is correct. we send our convicts to jail for far too long. it should be hard labour as a deterrent. he goes on to say, lots of people questioning why this fellow was in wandsworth prison in the first place. ron says we should prisons, should build more prisons, employ staff and lock up employ more staff and lock up all the wrong ones . challenges, all the wrong ones. challenges, though. ron, there'll big though. ron, there'll be a big debate classifies as debate about what classifies as a wrong'un in this day and age. yeah.ian a wrong'un in this day and age. yeah. ian says we should have capital punishment that would fix the population problem within the prisons. but who max says if you do the crime, you should be prepared to do the time, but only if you are indeed a risk to the general public. anyway, keep your thoughts

coming in about when it comes to prisons who should be in prisons and who should be in them and whether or not as well. you think we underinvest in them, let me them, get in touch and let me know. let's talk world know. but let's talk the world of work, apparently less of work, because apparently less than people this than 1 in 4 people in this country think that their career should come first in life. this is according new study. it is to according a new study. it basically britain basically says that britain is one the least kind of work one of the least kind of work orientated countries the orientated countries in the world. 73% brits have named world. 73% of brits have named work important of their work and important part of their life. get this, when you life. but get this, when you compare italy, which was compare it to italy, which was 96 france which was 94, i've 96 and france which was 94, i've got to say , when i read that got to say, when i read that statement , you know, does work, statement, you know, does work, confessed in life. i think it would be a little bit how do i word this nicely? i think it'd be a bit sad, actually , if your be a bit sad, actually, if your answer to that was yes, because what about your family? what about, don't know, whatever. about, i don't know, whatever. but what do you make to but anyway, what do you make to it all? >> i agree that bit. i >> i agree with that bit. i think number of things have think a number of things have changed decades . one changed over recent decades. one is maybe work was something is that maybe work was something that was much more connected to community. a lot there's community. there's a lot there's a big difference between, say ,

a big difference between, say, work use, kind of cliched image here, but like work in a coal mine with the community that sprung up around it. and then being in a amazon warehouse, there are differences there when it to the meaning you get it comes to the meaning you get out and then for out of life and then for a number people in past number of people in the past work often for a period of work often or for a period of time meant a home, certain quality of life, leisure time, for example , not for everyone, for example, not for everyone, but many . and as time has but for many. and as time has gone on, the quality of work has declined. it's become more precarious. become less precarious. it's become less well paid for some . and i think well paid for some. and i think then it's harder to make that connection between work and then what value it's bringing for your life. and think your life. and i think inevitably that means that people are start to see it more sceptically at least see sceptically or at least see it more in proportion to other things in their lives. and i think covid would helped in think covid would have helped in that with people having that as well, with people having to slow down those who could, who could from home, for who could work from home, for example. i think one element amongst is very complex amongst what is a very complex picture is that it may have had them some their them rethink some of their priorities well. and priorities in life as well. and

i'm that's another factor. i'm sure that's another factor. but changed hugely in but work has changed hugely in recent decades. >> val says, yes, the work >> well, val says, yes, the work ethic the welfare ethic is because of the welfare state. says caused state. val says that has caused the value of no working anyway. daniel, thoughts ? daniel, your thoughts? >> well, generally agree that >> well, i generally agree that we work to live , not live to we work to live, not live to work. and that people shouldn't be told you've got to work for the good of the economy. i mean, that's stalin would have said that's stalin would have said that you've to work for that you've all got to work for the good of the economy and you've got no say in the matter. but we do have say in the but we do have a say in the matter because we live in free matter because we live in a free country. but there are other things if you're going to spend so that you should so do you think that you should be to choose live off be able to choose to live off benefits no, i didn't say benefits then? no, i didn't say that. didn't that at all. that. i didn't say that at all. i mean, it come to that. but the first thing is, if you're going to spend decades now telling people really people that what's really important is their work life balance, they'll balance, eventually they'll start to you and start listening to you and they'll actually say, yeah, work. that important. my work. isn't that important. my life balance is a bit more important. so that's what we're seeing. thing seeing. and the other thing is, of as said before, of course, as i've said before, i last week in your show,

i said last week in your show, in society , people who in a humane society, people who can't can't be left in can't work can't be left in destitution. they've got to be supported. but if make it supported. but if you make it too for people to live off too easy for people to live off benefits and they choose not to work when they could, that is, i think , a mistake. and getting think, a mistake. and getting that balance right is important. and there's been quite a lot of that going on as well. so but i don't think you should be saying, you can't be saying, you know, you can't be bully pulpit people and saying you've got to work for the good of the economy. people should of the economy. we people should be working their good be working for their own good for and the good of their families and for supporting them themselves not working themselves and not working beyond what they don't want to work once they've satisfied those demands , then what about those demands, then what about universal basic income? >> would you support something like that? >> think we need do more >> i think we need to do more trials see what effects it trials to see what effects it has. that is something that's happening all over the world and some of those trials look to be positive. some of the shorter working that's working week trials. that's positive well. i think these positive as well. i think these are interesting concepts that, as say, need more as i say, need more experimentation fitting with the

way daniel is interpreting way that daniel is interpreting the issue here that we there are certain needs and wants we have in our lives and work provides us the ability to do that. and then getting the balance right is something that hopefully we could equipped more of a could be equipped with more of a choice have. personally, choice to have. personally, i would more interested in would be more interested in having what describe as having what i would describe as universal others have universal what others have described basic described as universal basic services that provide certain things like transport and education. we already, of course, get elements of those things. now which would then reduce some of those other pressures to then what does that mean ? mean? >> universal basic transport. >> universal basic transport. >> so, for example, if you're living in a city, the transport is much cheaper or maybe even free, so that there's less of that impetus. if you're a low paid worker, a lot of your wages begin to disappear on your commute. . commute. for example. >> for us, we have >> well, luckily for us, we have in london, we have a man that knows a thing or two about transport on the panel or two about transport. >> you're that low >> so you're saying that low paid what you're not paid workers, what you're not saying that a proportion of their per day and not

their wages per day and not eaten up by their commute, the weekly bus pass in london is one of the cheapest forms of travel that actually exists and low paid workers make heavy use of the bus. >> they don't on the whole, travel on the tube. and they have i think it's about £24 a week. i might be slightly out of date and the whole fare structure in london is tailored to help people at different points without giving away too much free to those who can pay and actually , you know it is not and actually, you know it is not the case. i don't live in london. >> that's not the case for people outside of london. >> i know the case. >> i know it's not the case. i don't know. what about london? i used to be in charge of transport in london. okay. so i'd said in london it the i'd said in london it is the case is the case in other case that is the case in other parts of the country. you have problems about the about the extent of transport is extent of public transport is another you're going another matter. you're not going to london rest to replicate london in the rest of the country. so you can have your free transport. that just won't be any buses. will won't be any buses. there will be free bus. won't be any buses. there will be you�*e bus. won't be any buses. there will be you geth. won't be any buses. there will be you get a. won't be any buses. there will be you get a free bus pass. you >> you get a free bus pass. you when get to a free bus when you get to get a free bus pass, when you get to about 67

now, yeah, 60, 65, 67. >> the government would you give for you've got free for free then you've got free bus. i'm about free food. >> i'm. >> i'm. >> oh yeah. food. >> oh yeah. food. >> food is. what about free mass. i mean, so it's very easy to, to, to commit the fallacy of saying because i'm suggesting making transport for making transport cheaper for people give everyone making transport cheaper for pe0jfood. give everyone free food. >> very easy to argue that free food. >> is very easy to argue that free food. >> is moreaasy to argue that free food. >> is more othero argue that free food. >> is more other thingse that free food. >> is more other things than would. >> so recently the government reduced bus fare journeys. >> know about london. >> i don't know about london. i don't live in to london £2 maximum bus journey that maximum per bus journey that made vast difference to the made a vast difference to the people and spend people i talked to and spend time with where i live before. right minute bus right for a ten minute bus journey get into local city, journey to get into local city, it was costing people £5.80 for a you're doubling a single right. you're doubling up. that the up. you're putting that over the course week. if you're course of the week. if you're working a cleaner on low working as a cleaner on low wages, a nontrivial wages, that is a nontrivial knock out of your pay. i'm not saying i would love it if those buses were free just than being £2 made a world of difference. that's the kind of stuff i'm talking about. talking talking about. we're talking here work and if we have here about work and if we have certain services that help people that work can be bit people so that work can be a bit more of a balanced quantity

element in their life so they can get out of their lives. can get more out of their lives. i imagine why we would i cannot imagine why we would talk down to that idea. we got to have easy, easy for people to get work so they can then do get to work so they can then do that for what they need in their lives. >> well, there you go. m >> well, there you go. what do you to that? i'll tell you, you make to that? i'll tell you, orwell's you could get to work on pushbike bike. after on your pushbike bike. after all, sun been shining, all, the sun has been shining, hasn't little cycle to hasn't it? nice little cycle to work on your agenda or not. let's look at the weather. >> that feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt proud sponsors of boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news evening alex weather on. gb news evening alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. >> for most of us, the hot spell continues this weekend. but with an increasing of seeing an increasing chance of seeing some thunderstorms and some big thunderstorms and eventually it will turn cooler into next week as this cold front approaches. but for the time being, between high time being, we're between high pressure low pressure and we pressure and low pressure and we still hot air in place. still have the hot air in place. a balmy evening out there, 1 or 2 very isolated thundery showers across parts of the west. but the vast majority staying dry

will a little murky in will turn a little murky in places, a bit misty, particularly around the coasts through and it's going through the west. and it's going to a very warm night as well. to be a very warm night as well. temperatures holding towns temperatures holding up in towns and cities the to high and cities in the mid to high teens. may not drop teens. some spots may not drop below celsius. a very warm below 20 celsius. so a very warm start to what will be a hot saturday. the main exception will be the far northwest, where it be distinctly cooler it will be distinctly cooler than today. and as the day goes on, there is an increasing chance of seeing some thunderstorms breaking out across the hearts of the country. we see these country. now, if we see these downpours, some downpours, they could cause some problems. a met office problems. there is a met office warning place, they're warning in place, but they're going hit and miss. going to be very hit and miss. most places won't them. most places won't see them. temperatures getting temperatures again getting into the as i said, quite the 30s. but as i said, quite a bit cooler across the north—west of scotland where there of scotland island where there will be more cloud and outbreaks of few of rain. still a few thunderstorms rumbling on through night into through the night and into sunday. chance of sunday. a greater chance of seeing these downpours. sunday. a greater chance of seein�*of these downpours. sunday. a greater chance of seein�*of northern|ese downpours. sunday. a greater chance of seein�*of northern england,|pours. sunday. a greater chance of seein�*of northern england, north parts of northern england, north wales, maybe into southern scotland chance scotland with a chance of thunderstorms. further scotland with a chance of thundeweirms. further scotland with a chance of thundeweirms. import further scotland with a chance of thundeweirms. import some1er scotland with a chance of thundeweirms. import some from south, we could import some from france. the majority france. again, the majority won't see them. and again, for most, another hot one, that warm

feeling inside from boxt boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> well, there you go, bright sunshine. i hope, wherever you are. but someone got in touch with me last night and said, michelle, stop going on about the fact that you're celebrating. it's warm. you were pointing that there's pointing out to me that there's a of you watching. a whole load of you watching. this cannot bear the this absolutely cannot bear the heat are struggling to get heat and are struggling to get to sleep at night and all the rest it. asked me to give rest of it. you asked me to give you a shout out and i forgot your i will give you your name, but i will give you a shout out nonetheless. but just remind name, joe, remind me of your name, joe, about that last survey there, when it's saying that brits are not work orientated as the not as work orientated as the hauans not as work orientated as the italians you're italians and the french, you're a joe. he says, he a cynic, joe. as he says, he thinks what is more likely is that just more that us brits are just more likely to tell truth. hm likely to tell the truth. hm i don't know. i'll leave it with you to figure out. i want to talk climate change next. when it comes to media and the it comes to the media and the way they report climate way that they report climate change, think we might be change, do you think we might be in dated a little bit.

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tonight friday, saturday and sunday from 9:00. only on gb news britain's news . channel news britain's news. channel >> hi there , i'm michelle >> hi there, i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight at daniel moylan , the tonight at daniel moylan, the tory peer in the house of lords, alongside me, as is laurie laban, a policy researcher, now a leading climate scientist. dr. patrick brown. he reckons that he delivers greatly overhyped the impact of global warming when it comes to wildfire , as in

when it comes to wildfire, as in his recent work, it was all about basically trying to make sure that he got it published in what is regarded as quite a prestigious journal. he says. basically that there is a kind of a central narrative that must be followed by men publications in this field in order to be published, respected and certainly funded in the area of climate change. he reckons essentially that we are being manipulated. so when you hear about all these wildfires and you see all this footage of all these fires, absolutely everywhere, the devastation that it's and all the rest of it's caused and all the rest of it, the thing you ever hear it, the only thing you ever hear aboutis it, the only thing you ever hear about is climate, climate, climate. you don't then hear the flip is absolutely flip side, which is absolutely climate likely climate is more than likely a factor, but as is the fact that there was load of randoms have factor, but as is the fact that there outi load of randoms have factor, but as is the fact that there out and>ad of randoms have factor, but as is the fact that there out and setof randoms have factor, but as is the fact that there out and set fireandoms have factor, but as is the fact that there out and set fire to ioms have factor, but as is the fact that there out and set fire to theseiave gone out and set fire to these forests and all the rest of it in the the first place. and in the in the first place. and lots of them end up getting arrested. so what he's saying is that edited out. that bits have been edited out. is accurate or not? is he accurate or not? >> before we talk about >> let's before we talk about him, let's talk about wildfires. >> to that climate change

>> so to say that climate change has caused a wildfire is a pretty hard thing to say to say that change is that climate change is increasing of wildfires increasing the risk of wildfires because basically making because it's basically making things warmer and drier is the right way to think about it. what in certain what that means is in certain places , if there is arson or places, if there is arson or there's trash lying around with a bottle whatever , a glass bottle or whatever, there's a likely place is a there's a more likely place is a tinder more likely to tinder box. it's more likely to go right? so that's the go up, right? so that's the first thing to say. there are loads of complex factors that sit behind it. as climate change gets risks it's gets worse, the risks grow. it's a driver of a risk factor. it's a driver of risk. in the same way that if you didn't look after yourself, it would be a driver your it would be a driver of your potentially in the potentially bad health. in the specific is quite niche specific this is quite a niche debate here with this debate going on here with this one he's essentially one guy. he's essentially whistleblowing himself whistleblowing on himself for putting paper where he said putting in a paper where he said he said, look , i think there's he said, look, i think there's this narrative and therefore i had to dress up my paper in a certain way. now when you submit to any journal , particularly to any journal, particularly a prestigious journal, have prestigious journal, you have to go through this thing called peer review, where you're your paper anonymous paper is then read by anonymous reviewers experts in the reviewers who are experts in the field , and those anonymous

field, and those anonymous reviewers as it has subsequently turned out, said, excuse me , turned out, said, excuse me, this paper you isolate the climate change element, but what about all the other factors? and in his reply he said, well, you know, ignore those. i just want to focus on the climate change you want here. and part of me thinks, yeah, that's kind of fair enough again, to fair enough because again, to take health analogy, we take the health analogy, if we think there's wrong think there's something wrong with want to with someone's body, we want to isolate the particular. >> but you must have noticed yourself just watching media just a casual observer, never just as a casual observer, never mind some the work you do, mind some of the work you do, just watching it casual just watching it as a casual observer, you must have noticed yourself the talk yourself that the talk is all around yourself that the talk is all aroryour weather maps are like >> your weather maps are like fluorescent , you know, bright fluorescent, you know, bright red and people talking about essentially dying, being boiled in their own sweat, you know , in their own sweat, you know, this is the kind of messaging that we get all the time and we don't really hear frequently from mainstream media sources about the fact that actually 79 arrests over there for arson and wildfires caused by arson over

that, you don't get that . that, you don't get that. >> so i genuinely agree. so i have huge respect for journalists, obviously. i think sometimes they struggle with the complexities that sit behind climate change. i have family in come on, you don't need to understand the complexities that sit behind climate change. >> fact that 79 >> you know, the fact that 79 people have been arrested for setting fire to forest gates. >> and that's not what i'm saying. that i would like it if a headline on a on about climate change and wildfires said there are an array of complex factors that lead to wildfires, climate change is one of the leading causes that increases the risk . causes that increases the risk. >> well, i would like the headunes >> well, i would like the headlines to say arsonists set fire to forest moral of the story, but they're easy to set fire and arson is easy to set fire and arson is easy to set fire to. >> well, there are two separate things here. >> i think. the first is, are we the public, being manipulated about climate change? and i think the truth can only think the truth is you can only you only have to turn certain you only have to turn on certain what would call mainstream what i would call mainstream television i wouldn't television channels. i wouldn't want here in order to

want to mention here in order to see that every story practically is angled towards climate change and is presented as an inevitable consequence of climate change and a and a precursor of much worse things to come. even when there are other factors. and it's quite deliberate. and i think it's so blatant and so obvious, people are starting to laugh at it now. and it's certainly not i think it's ceasing to have the effect that the propagandists behind it are promoting . but it's are promoting. but it's absolutely clear that is happening. the second thing is something i know less about, but one hears stories about, which is the corruption of the academic establishment and how i don't know about this particular individual guy, how he wrote his papen individual guy, how he wrote his paper, what he wrote it for. i don't know about the peer review , but the suggestion that in order to get funding, in order to get . academic progression and to get. academic progression and career progression , you you need

career progression, you you need to follow a certain narrative about climate, about carbon in particular, and so on. one hears that all the time and one and it's very worrying because it's when you get a clampdown on dissentient voices that science goes right off the rails and, and you know, that's what worries me about the whole thing. >> this has gone on for a long time, though, because i can remember i must have been vaguely a teenager there or thereabouts. and i remember being terrified, having the life terrified out of me about don't use hairspray, because these use hairspray, because all these aerosols was going to burn this massive hole in the ozone layer. theni massive hole in the ozone layer. then i remember being terrified about rain. i think it was about acid rain. i think it was acid rain that was the next thing, which now it's all about you shouldn't eat meat, you should can't drive these cars , should can't drive these cars, you can't put your log burner on, you know, if you don't adhere to what we tell you to do , you could potentially be in prison get £15,000 fines and prison or get £15,000 fines and all rest it . so i do feel all the rest of it. so i do feel like there has always this

like there has always been this kind i'm old enough to kind of i'm old enough to remember when the economist had an impending ice age on the front cover, every every week, practically, we were going to have age sometime in have a huge ice age sometime in the 1990s. >> we'd all freeze to death. >> we'd all freeze to death. >> yeah, i mean, that that was that was wrong . and the that was wrong. and the temperature going up and temperature is going up and that's that's what's happened. what the temperature is going up. wrong. it's literally up. that's wrong. it's literally what the what is happened is the temperature going up. >> people want to >> you know, people want to argue the science. is the argue about the science. is the temperature going are temperature going up? are instrumental record ? are there instrumental record? are there wildfires ? the so are there more wildfires? the so are there more wildfires? the so are there more wildfires? so let me let me say this. you will know this. >> my . so i do research this. you will know this. >> my. so i do research on on climate related things. the places i look the most at above, what we're describing here is mainstream media, which i would include gb news in, but mainstream media and other places. right are not the sources i look because sources i look at because they're the interpreter version within of your within the lens of your political on and so political view and so on and so forth. i look reports that forth. i look at reports that are released the us are released by the us department of defence. i look at

the recent government's what the recent us government's what they intelligence they call an intelligence estimate, looks threats estimate, which looks at threats to us , and they have a great to the us, and they have a great phrase for what climate change is a threat. multiply now these are not you're going to describe four star generals in the us is wokeist and stuff. these are very sensible people that are identifying threats the us identifying threats to the us nafion identifying threats to the us nation around world, and nation around the world, and climate is threat climate change is a threat multiply. already bad multiply. it makes already bad things more risky. multiply. it makes already bad things more risky . places are things more risky. places are dry and prone to wildfires. if you go and commit arson like greece , where i have family and greece, where i have family and if it's even even windier and dner if it's even even windier and drier and warmer, which is what's happening in greece, then when that person goes and commits arson because they want to burn down a bit of forest, they can build a house or get some insurance money. it will make likelihood that that make the likelihood that that fire spreads even greater. it multiplies threat multiplies an existing threat thatis multiplies an existing threat that is what climate crisis that is what the climate crisis is at the end of the day. >> well, there you go. final word on that to the climate expert. but i throw it open expert. but i will throw it open to home as what do to you at home as well. what do you to it all? have you

you make to it all? have you changed your behaviour in recent years? i'd be fascinated to hear that take less that as well. do you take less flights? do eat meat? flights? do you eat less meat? do have your log burner on do you have your log burner on less? if you've got one, would you change your car and all the rest of it? do you change your life try and help life in order to try and help the planet to survive longer the planet to survive for longer 7 the planet to survive for longer ? touch. ? get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com. when we come back, bringing in some back, i'll be bringing in some of thoughts, the emails back, i'll be bringing in some of been»ughts, the emails back, i'll be bringing in some of been»ug|fire, he emails back, i'll be bringing in some of been»ug|fire, so emails back, i'll be bringing in some of been»ug|fire, so they ls back, i'll be bringing in some of been»ug|fire, so they have have been on fire, so they have speaking about fires and boiling . lots of getting in touch. . lots of you getting in touch. i'll sharing your i'll be sharing some of your views second, but also, of views in a second, but also, of course , we will reflect on queen course, we will reflect on queen elizabeth. year ago . goodness elizabeth. a year ago. goodness me. her passing , don't go me. since her passing, don't go anywhere and i'll see you

in two. hello there. this is dewbs& co with me. michelle dewberry keeping me company till seven. daniel moylan , the tory peer in daniel moylan, the tory peer in the house of lords, and laurie laban, a policy researcher. you know drill date you on know the drill date you on a friday. do brits haven't is open. but today marks the first anniversary of queen elizabeth.

the second's death. of course, she away 70 years on from she passed away 70 years on from being on our throne . i just want being on our throne. i just want to press pause and actually raise a glass to our late queen. i remember that day. i cannot . i remember that day. i cannot. queen elizabeth. i remember that day. i love the fact that you got up. i did. i did. contemplate. shall i stand up? but as you can see, i've got my heels on. i've got my bag on. i should have been more respectful, really, and stood up whilst did my queen michelle, whilst i did my queen michelle, you're our queen to our queen. i can remember that day. and i have to say , of course, you have to say, of course, you know, she was getting on in her age. so when someone gets on in their age, you always know that something's but something's coming. but i remember shocked. remember being so shocked. i don't . it just really don't know why. it just really stunned me and it took me aback. and i remember leaving here and feeling just so sad . and i feeling just so sad. and i remember being really surprised at my own reaction just by how sad i actually was. i can't believe it is a year ago and i

think for me personally , it think for me personally, it surprised me just how much the queen meant to me . and i think i queen meant to me. and i think i only really realised that when she passed away in a world that's constantly shifting in in some cases horrifying ways, to have had the continuity of the presence of the queen was, i think , a huge part of our lives think, a huge part of our lives that we only really realised properly a year ago when she was no longer with us and i had a similar reaction that you're describing there and i think it was that so much is shifting in the world, but there was this constant that has then then disappeared . disappeared. >> and i also personally had really appreciated the connection to the past, to the country. there was so much i learned about the world through the lens of learning about the queen. and i thought then the resultant spectacle of the funeral was an astonishing reminder of tradition of the past, of this country. daniel i

think the two things that strike me the first was the lying in state and the queue, the people and how many came and how well behaved they were. >> and how solemn their attitude was. and it showed that there was. and it showed that there was something special about her. but also, in a sense, it was special about us that we could respond in that way. and i thought that was absolutely impressive. the other thing is that you come away whenever you think about the queen, the late queen, you think , how did she queen, you think, how did she manage to do it? how did she manage to do it? how did she manage for 70 years and longer than 70 years? because she was a model princess. i mean , how did model princess. i mean, how did she manage to be so perfect at what she was doing with hardly ever a step wrong? who could do that and what was the magic ? the that and what was the magic? the magic is the wrong word because it suggests it's like awful dust. but what was the what was the sort of the elements in her

character that kept her that kept her on that right track with a profound sense of duty and responsibility that was never about herself . it was never about herself. it was always about looking out and doing something for other people. how was it that she managed to do that for so long and never really put a foot or very rarely put a foot wrong? >> yeah. and i don't still don't have an answer to that. >> a year later. >> a year later. >> well, kirk says her late majesty all of the people majesty served all of the people of the uk with immense dignity , of the uk with immense dignity, seeking keep us all unified seeking to keep us all unified through very unstable times. adrian, i think you tap into something important. what you're saying is, of course, her majesty is such a big miss, but also it makes me feel and think about my mom, my dad and my sister , all the loved ones that sister, all the loved ones that were no longer with us. and i think, yeah, you're absolutely right, because i think it did. it made you press pause . and he it made you press pause. and he says, god bless your majesty. i think that is a sentiment echoed

by many, many of my viewers and certainly us guys here on the panel today. but look, that's all we've got time for. laurie thank you for your company. daniel moylan, thank you to you for yours, too. >> thank you, michelle. >> thank you, michelle. >> and very importantly, thank you to each and every one of you at home, whether you're listening watching or listening or watching or wherever you are. thank you for your company. i very much appreciate it. do not go anywhere lee anderson. up anywhere for lee anderson. up next, the temperature's next, nana, the temperature's rising in boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gbn news . evening. >> alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. for most of us, the hot spell continues this weekend, but with an increasing chance of seeing some big thunderstorms and eventually it will turn cooler into next week as this cold front approaches. but for the time being, we're between high pressure and low pressure and we still have the hot air in place. pressure and low pressure and we stbalmye the hot air in place. pressure and low pressure and we stbalmy evening air in place. pressure and low pressure and we stbalmy evening out in place. pressure and low pressure and we stbalmy evening out there. :e. pressure and low pressure and we stbalmy evening out there. 15. pressure and low pressure and we

stbalmy evening out there. 1 or a balmy evening out there. 1 or 2 very isolated thundery showers across parts of the west, but the vast majority staying dry. well turn a little murky in places , a bit misty, places, a bit misty, particularly around the coasts through the west. and it's going to a very warm night as well. to be a very warm night as well. temperatures holding towns temperatures holding up in towns and mid to high and cities in the mid to high teens. some spots not drop teens. some spots may not drop below so a very warm below 20 celsius. so a very warm start what will be a hot start to what will be a hot saturday. the main exception will be the far northwest, where it be distinctly cooler it will be distinctly cooler than today. and as the day goes on, there is an increasing chance seeing some chance of seeing some thunderstorms breaking out across the hearts of the country. if we see these country. now if we see these downpours, they could cause some problems. a met office problems. there is a met office warning in place, but they're going hit and miss. going to be very hit and miss. most places won't see them. temperatures again getting into the i said, quite the 30s. but as i said, quite a bit the north—west bit cooler across the north—west of there will be of scotland where there will be more cloud outbreaks of more cloud and outbreaks of rain. few thunderstorms rain. still a few thunderstorms rumbling through the rumbling on through the night and sunday, a greater and into sunday, a greater chance of seeing these chance of seeing more of these downpours. northern downpours. parts of northern england, into england, north wales, maybe into southern chance southern scotland with a chance of thunderstorms. even of thunderstorms. but even further could import

further south, we could import some from france . again, the some from france. again, the majority see them . and majority won't see them. and again, for most, another hot one, the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .

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